# House Plenary: FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 5 Part 1 - September 21, 2026

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJUbIK-YOM

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**[00:01:16.350] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-000003)  
Session suspended.

**[00:20:49.560] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000044)  
Session resumed. Majority.

**[00:20:52.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000044-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker.

**[00:20:56.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000044-split-3)  
What's the pleasure of the Honorable Tiangco?

**[00:20:58.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000044-split-4)  
Parliamentary inquiry, Madam Speaker.

**[00:21:01.760] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000045)  
What's the parliamentary inquiry of the Honorable Tiangco?

**[00:21:05.120] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000045-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, gusto ko lang po malaman kung bakit nilipat po from September 24 ang budget ng House at naging September 17 po.

**[00:21:15.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000045-split-3)  
Your question is bakit nilipat yung—

**[00:21:19.120] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000045-split-4)  
Sa original schedule po na nilabas noong September 15, ang original schedule po ng budget ng House is on September 24. Ang nangyari po niyan, inilipat po yan ng September 17.

**[00:21:33.630] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000046)  
So ang tanong ko po, ano po ang dahilan kung bakit po ito nilipat ng September 17?

**[00:21:37.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000046-split-2)  
May we know from the Majority Leader if this is the only agency that the schedule has been changed or it encompasses other agencies as well?

**[00:21:48.390] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000047)  
Madam Speaker, it wasn't the only agency that was moved.

**[00:21:52.300] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000048)  
I think there were several other agencies that were moved due to requests from the other departments.

**[00:22:00.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000049)  
It was actually the deferment of two agencies.

**[00:22:02.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000050)  
No, Madam Speaker, can you please name the agency that was moved?

**[00:22:04.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000051)  
Because based on my record, ito lang po ang inusod. Ito lang po ang in-advance na ahensya.

**[00:22:10.280] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000052)  
So kung meron po, pwede pong sabihin kung ano pong ahensya yung inusod ng mas maaga yung schedule, Madam Speaker.

**[00:22:17.020] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000053)  
With the indulgence of the Honorable Toby Chango, can we proceed to the additional reference of business?

**[00:22:22.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000054)  
No, Madam Speaker, I do not agree.

**[00:22:24.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000055)  
While we are getting the data.

**[00:22:26.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000056)  
No, no, no, I do not agree. Let's suspend.

**[00:22:30.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000057)  
Session suspended.

**[00:23:00.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000058)  
Session resumed.

**[00:23:07.180] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000059)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:23:08.580] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000060)  
Madam Speaker, upon review of the schedule, the DOT, the PSA, and the Congress of the Philippines budget were all moved to a different schedule.

**[00:23:20.340] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000061)  
Madam Speaker, the DOT was moved to a later schedule.

**[00:23:22.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000062)  
Ang tanong ko, bakit, kasi tignan niyo po, Madam Speaker, September 17 po nun, okay?

**[00:23:30.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000063)  
September 17, meron po naman nakaschedule ng September 18.

**[00:23:34.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000064)  
Meron nakaschedule ng September 21, 22, 23.

**[00:23:38.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000065)  
Bakit naman doon tayo sa dulo kukuha, Madam Speaker?

**[00:23:41.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000066)  
Traditionally, matagal na kayo dito, pag nag-uusod, ang kinukuha yung pinakmalapit.

**[00:23:46.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000067)  
For what reason?

**[00:23:47.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000068)  
Para makapaghanda po yung hindi lang yung departamento, kung hindi pa rin yung mga congressmen.

**[00:23:52.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000069)  
Kasi bakit naman po maghahanda yung congressman na mag-deliberate sa isang budget na tatalakayin pa sa September 24?

**[00:24:00.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000070)  
Siyempre, tatalakang pag-aaralan niyo po yung September 17, September 18. Una po yan.

**[00:24:05.960] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000071)  
With the indulgence of the Honorable Tavi Chanko, if you may,

**[00:24:10.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000072)  
this schedule, as arranged by the Committee on Appropriations, is not deliberated in the plenary.

**[00:24:15.980] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000073)  
This is being discussed within the Committee on Appropriations.

**[00:24:18.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000074)  
So, with the indulgence of the Honorable Tavi Chanko, if he deems it proper, he can move for the session suspended.

**[01:21:30.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000196)  
Session resumed. Majority Leader.

**[01:21:40.680] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000196-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, I move to call the roll of members.

**[01:21:42.600] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000196-split-3)  
Secretary-General is hereby directed to call the roll of members.

**[01:21:48.280] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000196-split-4)  
Madam Speaker.

**[01:21:51.600] Secretary-General** (asr-000196-split-5)  
Roll call of members.

**[01:21:52.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000196-split-6)  
Madam Speaker, I still have the floor.

**[01:21:56.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000196-split-7)  
In due time, Honorable Tiangco. Roll call is ongoing; it is the highest motion.

**[01:22:00.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000197)  
It cannot be disrupted. Secretary-General is directed.

**[01:22:05.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000197-split-2)  
Abalos, Abante, Asidre, Akop, Acosta, Adyong, Advincula, Agarao, Aguiao, Alano, Alba, Albano.

**[01:22:30.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000198)  
Almario Chino Miguel, Almario Dennis, Almonte, Alvarez Jose, Alvarez Mercedes, Amante, Amatong, Angara, Angeles, Aquino, Aquino Magsaysay, Arbison Mir.

**[01:23:00.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000199)  
Arbison Moner Jr., Enas, Arogancia, Asisto, Atideado, Austria, Barzaga, Ayon, Bago, Balindong, Nograles, Bancoro, Barba, Barbers.

**[01:23:30.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000200)  
Baronda, Bascug, Bautista Claude, Bautista Johan, Bautista Lim, Beltran, Benitez Alfredo, Benitez Javier Miguel, Bernos Ching, Bernos GB, Biron, Bobo.

**[01:24:00.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000201)  
Bolia, Bondoc, Bones, Bulut Tang, Cagas, Calderon, Calikto, Kawagdan, Cari, Castron, Celeste.

**[01:24:30.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000202)  
Chanon John Almario, Chan Junard, Chua, Chua Tay, Chunggalao, Coilar, Cojuangco Jaime Eduardo, Cojuangco Mark, Colantes, Corvera, Cruz Agatha, Cruz Ricardo.

**[01:25:00.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000203)  
Cruzado, Cua, Dagooc, Dalanghirang, Daza, de Jesus, de Lima, de Venecia, Defensor, de Gamoar, de los Santos, de Makuha, Maguila, Dimaporo Imelda, Dimaporo Sitti Amina.

**[01:25:30.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000204)  
Diokno, Dionisio, Domingo, Domogan, Duterte Harold James, Duterte Omar Vincent, Duterte Paolo, de Faustino, Michael Carlos, de Ian Paul, Elago, Emano, Enverga, Erice, Escudero.

**[01:26:00.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000205)  
Espares, Espina, Estrella, Ferrer Antonio, Ferrer Jeffrey, Flores, Fortun, Fresn, Fuentebella, Galang, Galeos, Garbin, Garcia Albert, Garcia Dante, Garcia Jose Arturo.

**[01:26:30.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000206)  
Garcia Karen Hook, Garcia Maria Angela, Guardiola, Garin, Gatal, Gato, Clepa, Go, Gomez, Gonzalez Alexandra, Gonzalez Ala Micaela, Gonzalez Christopher Shin, Gonzalez Roy, Goreta, Giko, Gintu.

**[01:27:00.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000236)  
Julias

**[01:27:01.740] Secretary-General** (asr-000237)  
Gutierrez

**[01:27:03.820] Secretary-General** (asr-000238)  
Hernandez Charizan

**[01:27:06.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000239)  
Hernandez Dennis

**[01:27:09.120] Secretary-General** (asr-000240)  
Hernandez Ferdinand

**[01:27:11.580] Secretary-General** (asr-000241)  
Hernandez Ramil

**[01:27:14.380] Secretary-General** (asr-000242)  
Hofer Hasim

**[01:27:16.580] Secretary-General** (asr-000243)  
Ori Bata

**[01:27:18.480] Secretary-General** (asr-000244)  
Ismula

**[01:27:20.240] Secretary-General** (asr-000245)  
Iway

**[01:27:21.980] Secretary-General** (asr-000246)  
Javier

**[01:27:23.640] Secretary-General** (asr-000247)  
Ko Antonio

**[01:27:25.420] Secretary-General** (asr-000248)  
Ko Elisa

**[01:27:27.380] Secretary-General** (asr-000249)  
Ko Wilton

**[01:27:30.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000250)  
Kung Hun

**[01:27:32.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000251)  
Ko

**[01:27:33.480] Secretary-General** (asr-000252)  
Labad Labad

**[01:27:35.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000253)  
Lakson

**[01:27:37.540] Secretary-General** (asr-000254)  
Lagbas

**[01:27:39.360] Secretary-General** (asr-000255)  
Lagdameo Jose Manuel

**[01:27:42.200] Secretary-General** (asr-000256)  
Lagdameo Monique Yasmin Maria

**[01:27:46.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000257)  
Lagman

**[01:27:47.860] Secretary-General** (asr-000258)  
Lagon Daphne

**[01:27:51.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000259)  
Lagon Sani

**[01:27:53.240] Secretary-General** (asr-000260)  
Lara

**[01:27:55.380] Secretary-General** (asr-000261)  
Lazatin

**[01:27:57.980] Secretary-General** (asr-000262)  
Ledesma

**[01:28:00.240] Secretary-General** (asr-000263)  
Legacion

**[01:28:01.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000264)  
Legarda

**[01:28:03.760] Secretary-General** (asr-000265)  
Legazpi

**[01:28:09.560] Secretary-General** (asr-000266)  
Leviste

**[01:28:12.300] Secretary-General** (asr-000267)  
Libanan

**[01:28:15.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000268)  
Lopez

**[01:28:18.100] Secretary-General** (asr-000269)  
Gloria

**[01:28:20.640] Secretary-General** (asr-000270)  
Loyola

**[01:28:24.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000271)  
Luistro

**[01:28:27.240] Secretary-General** (asr-000272)  
Lumayag

**[01:28:30.560] Secretary-General** (asr-000273)  
Macapagal Arroyo

**[01:28:37.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000274)  
Macasait

**[01:28:43.020] Secretary-General** (asr-000275)  
Maceda

**[01:28:48.800] Secretary-General** (asr-000276)  
Madrona

**[01:28:54.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000277)  
Malapitan

**[01:28:59.200] Secretary-General** (asr-000278)  
Mangudadatu

**[01:29:06.760] Secretary-General** (asr-000279)  
Manikis

**[01:29:11.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000280)  
Maranion

**[01:29:16.120] Secretary-General** (asr-000281)  
Marcoleta

**[01:29:24.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000282)  
Mendoza

**[01:29:26.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000283)  
Marcos

**[01:29:28.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000284)  
Marquez

**[01:29:30.220] Secretary-General** (asr-000285)  
Mastura

**[01:29:32.760] Secretary-General** (asr-000286)  
Matibag

**[01:29:35.380] Secretary-General** (asr-000287)  
Matugas

**[01:29:40.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000288)  
Mendoza

**[01:29:43.080] Secretary-General** (asr-000289)  
Mercado

**[01:29:45.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000290)  
Mercado Revilla

**[01:29:49.100] Secretary-General** (asr-000291)  
Miraflores

**[01:29:51.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000292)  
Marcos

**[01:29:52.300] Secretary-General** (asr-000293)  
Marcos

**[01:29:54.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000294)  
Mama

**[01:30:00.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000302)  
Nazal

**[01:30:02.900] Secretary-General** (asr-000303)  
Misay

**[01:30:05.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000304)  
Nolasco

**[01:30:10.560] Secretary-General** (asr-000305)  
Uwaminal Henry

**[01:30:15.220] Secretary-General** (asr-000306)  
Uwaminal Sancho Fernando

**[01:30:18.960] Secretary-General** (asr-000307)  
Olivares

**[01:30:22.880] Secretary-General** (asr-000308)  
Ongchuan

**[01:30:25.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000309)  
Ordanez

**[01:30:29.320] Secretary-General** (asr-000310)  
Oreta

**[01:30:33.180] Secretary-General** (asr-000311)  
Ortega

**[01:30:37.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000312)  
Uwano Dizon

**[01:30:41.200] Secretary-General** (asr-000313)  
Padernos

**[01:30:45.080] Secretary-General** (asr-000314)  
Panaligan

**[01:30:49.760] Secretary-General** (asr-000315)  
Pancho

**[01:30:53.700] Secretary-General** (asr-000316)  
Panotes

**[01:30:59.320] Secretary-General** (asr-000317)  
Pascual

**[01:31:03.120] Secretary-General** (asr-000318)  
Perez

**[01:31:05.560] Secretary-General** (asr-000319)  
Pimentel

**[01:31:08.960] Secretary-General** (asr-000320)  
Plaza

**[01:31:11.700] Secretary-General** (asr-000321)  
Plato

**[01:31:15.640] Secretary-General** (asr-000322)  
Po

**[01:31:17.980] Secretary-General** (asr-000323)  
Primicia Sagabas

**[01:31:20.920] Secretary-General** (asr-000324)  
Pumaren

**[01:31:23.840] Secretary-General** (asr-000325)  
Puno

**[01:31:26.380] Secretary-General** (asr-000326)  
Kimbo

**[01:31:27.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000327)  
Puno

**[01:31:28.980] Secretary-General** (asr-000328)  
Rama

**[01:31:30.480] Secretary-General** (asr-000329)  
Recto

**[01:31:36.620] Secretary-General** (asr-000330)  
Regencia

**[01:31:39.540] Secretary-General** (asr-000331)  
Remulia

**[01:31:43.380] Secretary-General** (asr-000332)  
Revilia Bryan

**[01:31:47.320] Secretary-General** (asr-000333)  
Revilia Ramonjolo

**[01:31:50.880] Secretary-General** (asr-000334)  
Ridon

**[01:31:53.480] Secretary-General** (asr-000335)  
Rivera

**[01:31:58.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000336)  
Robes

**[01:32:02.020] Secretary-General** (asr-000344)  
Rodriguez Eulogio, Rodriguez Maximo, Rodriguez Rufus, Roman

**[01:32:13.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000346)  
Romualdez Andrew Julian

**[01:32:14.720] Secretary-General** (asr-000347)  
Romualdez Ferdinand Martin

**[01:32:15.880] Secretary-General** (asr-000348)  
Romualdez Ieda Marie

**[01:32:19.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000349)  
Romualdo

**[01:32:23.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000354)  
Romulo

**[01:32:25.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000357)  
Roque

**[01:32:29.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000361)  
Sagarbarria

**[01:32:34.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000366)  
Sakaluran

**[01:32:36.200] Secretary-General** (asr-000369)  
Salceda

**[01:32:39.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000373)  
Sali

**[01:32:42.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000378)  
Salvacion

**[01:32:45.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000381)  
Salvador

**[01:32:48.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000385)  
Salvame

**[01:32:51.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000388)  
San Fernando

**[01:32:54.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000391)  
Santos Maria Alana Samantha

**[01:32:58.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000402)  
Santos Mark Anthony,

**[01:33:01.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000403)  
Shimura,

**[01:33:04.800] Secretary-General** (asr-000404)  
Singson Richelle,

**[01:33:07.600] Secretary-General** (asr-000405)  
Singson Ronald,

**[01:33:09.880] Secretary-General** (asr-000406)  
Singson Mijan,

**[01:33:11.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000407)  
Solon,

**[01:33:13.800] Secretary-General** (asr-000408)  
Soriano,

**[01:33:15.760] Secretary-General** (asr-000409)  
Suwan,

**[01:33:17.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000410)  
Swansing Bella Vanessa,

**[01:33:20.700] Secretary-General** (asr-000411)  
Swansing Micaela Angela,

**[01:33:23.720] Secretary-General** (asr-000412)  
Suarez,

**[01:33:25.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000413)  
Suntay,

**[01:33:27.680] Secretary-General** (asr-000414)  
Taliado,

**[01:33:28.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000415)  
Tan Ayman,

**[01:33:32.600] Secretary-General** (asr-000416)  
Tan Joseph,

**[01:33:34.960] Secretary-General** (asr-000417)  
Tan Keith Micah,

**[01:33:37.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000418)  
Tan Reynolds Michael,

**[01:33:40.080] Secretary-General** (asr-000419)  
Tan Samir,

**[01:33:41.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000420)  
Tan Stephen James,

**[01:33:44.500] Secretary-General** (asr-000421)  
Tan Chay,

**[01:33:46.180] Secretary-General** (asr-000422)  
Tan Watko,

**[01:33:48.120] Secretary-General** (asr-000423)  
Tariela,

**[01:33:49.980] Secretary-General** (asr-000424)  
Teodoro,

**[01:33:51.760] Secretary-General** (asr-000425)  
Tering,

**[01:33:54.100] Secretary-General** (asr-000426)  
Tevez,

**[01:33:57.240] Secretary-General** (asr-000427)  
Iangko,

**[01:33:58.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000428)  
Tieng,

**[01:34:01.200] Secretary-General** (asr-000429)  
Tino,

**[01:34:03.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000430)  
Tolentino,

**[01:34:06.140] Secretary-General** (asr-000431)  
Tuwan,

**[01:34:10.560] Secretary-General** (asr-000432)  
Tulfo Jocelyn,

**[01:34:12.720] Secretary-General** (asr-000433)  
Tulfo Ralph Wendel,

**[01:34:15.500] Secretary-General** (asr-000434)  
Tupas,

**[01:34:18.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000435)  
Tutor,

**[01:34:20.720] Secretary-General** (asr-000436)  
Ti,

**[01:34:22.400] Secretary-General** (asr-000437)  
Umali,

**[01:34:24.660] Secretary-General** (asr-000438)  
Ungab,

**[01:34:27.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000439)  
Uy,

**[01:34:29.920] Secretary-General** (asr-000457)  
Roberto,

**[01:34:32.020] Secretary-General** (asr-000458)  
Valeriano,

**[01:34:35.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000459)  
Vargas,

**[01:34:37.740] Secretary-General** (asr-000460)  
Vargas,

**[01:34:40.540] Secretary-General** (asr-000461)  
Alfonso,

**[01:34:42.600] Secretary-General** (asr-000462)  
Veloso,

**[01:34:45.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000463)  
Veloso,

**[01:34:45.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000464)  
Tuazon,

**[01:34:48.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000465)  
Vergara,

**[01:34:51.860] Secretary-General** (asr-000466)  
Villa,

**[01:34:55.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000467)  
Villa,

**[01:34:56.380] Secretary-General** (asr-000468)  
Villafuerte,

**[01:34:56.740] Secretary-General** (asr-000469)  
Miguel Luis,

**[01:34:58.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000470)  
Villafuerte Vincenzo Renato Luigi

**[01:35:02.560] Secretary-General** (asr-000471)  
Villanueva

**[01:35:06.320] Secretary-General** (asr-000472)  
Villarica

**[01:35:08.340] Secretary-General** (asr-000473)  
Violago

**[01:35:10.680] Secretary-General** (asr-000474)  
Yamsuan

**[01:35:13.040] Secretary-General** (asr-000475)  
Yap Arthur

**[01:35:15.660] Secretary-General** (asr-000476)  
Yap Christopherson

**[01:35:18.400] Secretary-General** (asr-000477)  
Yap Eric

**[01:35:20.460] Secretary-General** (asr-000478)  
Yap John Gisnell

**[01:35:23.580] Secretary-General** (asr-000479)  
Yatko

**[01:35:25.320] Secretary-General** (asr-000480)  
Inares

**[01:35:27.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000481)  
Yu Giselle Victoria

**[01:35:30.480] Secretary-General** (asr-000482)  
Yu Joseph Kim

**[01:35:33.220] Secretary-General** (asr-000483)  
Yulo

**[01:35:34.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000484)  
Zamora Maria Carmen

**[01:35:38.040] Secretary-General** (asr-000485)  
Zamora Isabel Maria

**[01:35:40.960] Secretary-General** (asr-000486)  
Zubiri

**[01:39:20.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000516)  
Madam Speaker, the roll call shows that 228 members responded to the call.

**[01:39:27.520] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000517)  
With 228 members responding to the call, the Chair declares the presence of a quorum.

**[01:39:35.100] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000518)  
Majority Leader?

**[01:39:37.020] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000519)  
Madam Speaker, I move to take up additional reference of business and request that the Secretary General be directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as communications and committee reports.

**[01:39:47.080] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000520)  
Is there an objection?

**[01:39:48.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000521)  
The Chair hears none.

**[01:39:49.680] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000522)  
The Secretary General is hereby directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading as well as messages, communications, and committee reports.

**[01:39:57.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000523)  
Referral to the appropriate committees.

**[01:39:59.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000524)  
Madam Speaker, I had a pending parliamentary inquiry, so I would like to request the Majority Leader to reply to the parliamentary inquiry.

**[01:40:07.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000525)  
May we know the parliamentary inquiry of the Honorable Chanko?

**[01:40:10.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000526)  
Ang tinanong ko po kanina is kung bakit po nilipat yung budget ng House of Representatives magpula po September 24 papunta pong September 17.

**[01:40:21.220] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000527)  
As what the Majority Leader earlier responded, the adjustment involved the proposed budget.

**[01:40:27.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000528)  
The budget of the Department of Tourism and the Congress of the Philippines.

**[01:40:31.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000529)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, alam ko po na hindi natuloy yung sa Department of Tourism.

**[01:40:35.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000530)  
Kaya lang po, ang ginagawa po natin, kaya po tayo nagbibigay ng schedules ng budget is para po makapaghanda yung mga members na magtanong.

**[01:40:44.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000531)  
So kung ang budget ng House ay September 24 pa, natural po ang paghahandaan muna ay yung mga September 18, September 21.

**[01:40:57.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000532)  
So mas logical kung doon po humugot.

**[01:40:59.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000533)  
Kaya lang, what was the compelling reason? Ano po yung napakahalaga?

**[01:41:04.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000534)  
Bakit inuna yung budget ng House of Representatives when traditionally nasa dulo po yan?

**[01:41:09.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000535)  
As I was also the presiding during that week, distinguished colleague, the reason that the budget was adjusted was that two departments were also deferred.

**[01:41:20.580] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000536)  
That is DICT and DEPDEV, specifically the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[01:41:25.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000541)  
Hence, the adjustment of the other budgets to an earlier schedule, citing from the motion of the minority and the majority that there were no more interpellators.

**[01:41:34.940] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000542)  
However, if the Hon. Changko is so much willing, we can inform the Committee on Appropriations that you be informed if in case there are other schedules.

**[01:41:44.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000543)  
Madam Speaker, may precedent na po tayo dito.

**[01:41:48.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000544)  
Yung budget po ng MMDA, na-terminate po yun.

**[01:41:53.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000545)  
Tapos, the Hon. Tino requested that

**[01:41:56.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000546)  
It be reopened.

**[01:41:57.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000547)  
And pinayagan po siya to reopen.

**[01:42:00.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000548)  
So, I'm asking for the same thing.

**[01:42:02.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000549)  
Sa budget ng house, na sana po payagan na ma-reopen yung budget ng house.

**[01:42:07.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000550)  
For the following reasons.

**[01:42:09.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000551)  
Number one, noong pa lang po DBCC, on the first day, nag-request na po ako na dalhin sa committee yung budget ng house.

**[01:42:21.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000552)  
Ngunit hindi po pumayag.

**[01:42:23.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000553)  
So, sa plenaryo na lang po.

**[01:42:25.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000554)  
Hindi po magandang tingin.

**[01:42:26.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000555)  
Hindi po magandang tignan na ang budget ng house, eh hindi man lang pinaliwanag dito sa plenaryo at pinasa natin.

**[01:42:33.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000556)  
Kaya po, humihingi po ako ng reconsideration na since pinagbigyan po yung MMDA na ma-reopen,

**[01:42:40.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000557)  
eh sana ma-reopen din po yung sa house.

**[01:42:42.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000558)  
At tayo ay nasa isang unique na katayuan.

**[01:42:46.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000559)  
Tayo po ang ahensya at tayo po ang sangay ng gobyerno na may kapangyarihan sa budget.

**[01:42:51.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000560)  
Pero tayo lang rin ang sangay ng gobyerno na may control ng budget.

**[01:42:56.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000561)  
Na gumagastos ng sariling budget.

**[01:42:58.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000562)  
Yung ibang ahensya po na pupunta dito, pumupunta sila dito sa Kongreso para humingi ng pondo.

**[01:43:04.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000563)  
Pero hindi po pareho yung nagbibigay at nagre-release ng pondo.

**[01:43:08.680] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000564)  
With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague,

**[01:43:12.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000565)  
we are still in the additional reference of business.

**[01:43:15.560] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000566)  
What you are referring to is under unfinished business.

**[01:43:18.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000567)  
We will go to that agenda that is third in our agenda.

**[01:43:21.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000568)  
The Secretary General is hereby directed.

**[01:43:23.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000569)  
Okay, so babalikan po natin yan after this.

**[01:43:24.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000570)  
Yes.

**[01:43:25.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000571)  
Okay.

**[01:43:25.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000572)  
The Secretary General again is hereby directed to read the title of bills on first reading

**[01:43:30.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000573)  
as well as committee reports resolution and for referral to the appropriate committee.

**[01:43:36.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000574)  
So directed.

**[01:43:38.180] Secretary-General** (asr-000575)  
Additional reference of business.

**[01:43:40.500] Secretary-General** (asr-000576)  
Resolution.

**[01:43:41.620] Secretary-General** (asr-000577)  
House Resolution 1465.

**[01:43:44.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000578)  
Urging the DOE, the ERC, and the NGCP to fast-track, prioritize, and advance the timeline

**[01:43:50.000] Secretary-General** (asr-000579)  
for the early completion of the Mindoro-Panay Interconnection Project

**[01:43:53.600] Secretary-General** (asr-000580)  
to establish a power loop and ensure stability.

**[01:43:55.800] Secretary-General** (asr-000581)  
And to establish a stable energy for Panay Island and western Visayas.

**[01:43:58.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000582)  
Representative Baronda.

**[01:44:06.140] Secretary-General** (asr-000583)  
To the Committee on Energy.

**[01:44:09.880] Secretary-General** (asr-000584)  
Committee Reports.

**[01:44:11.280] Secretary-General** (asr-000585)  
Committee Report number 643, 644, and 645.

**[01:44:15.020] Secretary-General** (asr-000586)  
Submitted by the Committee on Youth and Sports Development

**[01:44:17.120] Secretary-General** (asr-000587)  
on House Resolution 1462, House Bill number 11380,

**[01:44:21.420] Secretary-General** (asr-000588)  
and House Resolution 1463, respectively.

**[01:44:25.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000589)  
To the Committee on Rules.

**[01:44:28.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000590)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:44:51.960] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000591)  
Suspend session for a few minutes.

**[01:44:54.780] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000592)  
Session suspended.

**[01:46:00.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000596)  
Session resumed. Majority Leader.

**[01:46:30.000] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-000597)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858.

**[01:46:48.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000597-split-2)  
There's a motion to resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858 as contained in Committee Report No. 638, and the Secretary-General is hereby directed to read the title of said measure.

**[01:47:02.440] Secretary-General** (asr-000598)  
House Bill No. 10858, an act appropriating funds for the operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1 to December 31, 2027.

**[01:47:19.760] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000598-split-2)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:47:25.960] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-000598-split-3)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the representative of the Lone District.

**[01:47:32.840] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000599)  
The Honorable Toby Tiangco is hereby recognized. Please proceed.

**[01:47:37.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000599-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, papagpatuloy ko lang po. Inusod po yung schedule ng [unclear] po ay pinayagan po ma-reopen para makapagtanong. Dito po sa House, nagre-request po ako ng reopening. Hindi naman po siguro maganda na wala akong nakapagtanong dito sa budget ng House.

**[01:47:57.600] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000599-split-3)  
Is it a motion?

**[01:47:58.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000599-split-4)  
Yes, patapusin lang po.

**[01:48:00.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000600)  
Considering po na sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno, tayo po ay allowed ng liquidation by certification. So kung allowed po tayo ng liquidation by certification, mas lalong dapat ipaliwanag sa taong bayan papaano po ginagastos yung pera nila dahil hindi naman po natin ito [unclear]. So I'm asking for a motion for reconsideration to reopen the budget of the House and be presented to the plenary in the same way that it was allowed for the MMDA.

**[01:48:30.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000601)  
With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague,

**[01:48:33.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000602)  
while the proposed budget of the MMDA was indeed reconsidered

**[01:48:39.620] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000603)  
upon the motion of the majority giving way and yielding way

**[01:48:43.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000604)  
to the listed members who arrived and who wished their intention to interpolate,

**[01:48:49.180] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000605)  
in the case of the budget of the House of Representatives,

**[01:48:53.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000606)  
it does not mean that the leadership doesn't want to discuss the proposed budget.

**[01:48:57.320] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000607)  
In fact,

**[01:48:58.860] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000608)  
the House is very much...

**[01:49:00.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000609)  
very much willing to discuss this.

**[01:49:02.360] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000610)  
However,

**[01:49:03.420] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000611)  
if I may,

**[01:49:04.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000612)  
and with respectful indulgence to our distinguished colleague,

**[01:49:08.060] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000613)  
Section 105 of our rules states,

**[01:49:11.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000614)  
when a measure, report, or motion is approved, adopted, or lost,

**[01:49:15.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000615)  
a member who voted with the majority may move for its reconsideration on the same

**[01:49:19.160] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000616)  
or succeeding session day.

**[01:49:21.780] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000617)  
As we have conferred with the Secretary General,

**[01:49:24.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000618)  
the Honorable Toby Chanko was on official business,

**[01:49:27.300] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000619)  
on official travel abroad,

**[01:49:30.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000620)  
hence, with due courtesy, Honorable Toby Chanko,

**[01:49:34.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000621)  
your motion for reconsideration is out of order.

**[01:49:37.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000622)  
No, Madam Speaker, it says on the next session day.

**[01:49:41.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000623)  
We are not yet on the next session day because we have not yet adjourned.

**[01:49:44.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000624)  
So we are still in the same session day, Madam Speaker.

**[01:49:47.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000625)  
So you cannot use that rule, Madam Speaker.

**[01:49:50.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000626)  
It says on the next session day.

**[01:49:52.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000627)  
We are still on the same session day, so it's a continuing session.

**[01:49:55.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000628)  
So dapat po kung ganyan ang gusto niyong gamitin na rule, dapat po

**[01:49:59.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000629)  
nag-adjourn po noon para next session day, eh Biyernes at hindi na po ako puwedeng mag-motion for reconsideration ngayon.

**[01:50:07.340] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000630)  
I am not actually referring to the next session day.

**[01:50:09.980] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000631)  
I am referring, the presiding officer, referring to a motion for reconsideration of a member

**[01:50:15.620] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000632)  
who voted with the majority insofar as the motion

**[01:50:19.620] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000633)  
to terminate the period of interpolation of the proposed budget of the Congress of the Philippines.

**[01:50:24.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000634)  
Within the next session day.

**[01:50:26.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000635)  
Hindi pa po tumadaan yung isang session day, Madam Speaker.

**[01:50:29.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000636)  
Yes.

**[01:50:29.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000637)  
Anyway, just rule on it, Madam Speaker.

**[01:50:32.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000638)  
Kung talagang hindi kayo papayag, then just rule on it.

**[01:50:35.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000639)  
The parliamentary status is this.

**[01:50:37.500] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000640)  
The proposed, the interpolations of the proposed budget of the House of Representatives

**[01:50:41.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000641)  
has been terminated as moved by the minority,

**[01:50:45.240] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000642)  
duly seconded by the majority last Thursday, September...

**[01:50:53.480] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000643)  
September 17, 2026 at approximately...

**[01:50:59.840] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000644)  
before noontime.

**[01:51:01.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000645)  
A motion for reconsideration is being put forwarded by the Honorable Chanko.

**[01:51:06.420] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000646)  
While the presiding officer would gladly yield,

**[01:51:10.100] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000647)  
unfortunately, our rule states that only a member who had voted with the majority

**[01:51:14.760] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000648)  
can vote for the reconsideration.

**[01:51:17.380] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000649)  
With that, our apologies.

**[01:51:19.920] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000650)  
The motion for reconsideration is out of order.

**[01:51:22.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000651)  
So ruled.

**[01:51:23.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000652)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[01:51:24.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000653)  
But I think more than the rules, transparency is more important than our rules.

**[01:51:28.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000654)  
Kasi kung gusto po natin,

**[01:51:29.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000655)  
magigilan ng korupsyon,

**[01:51:32.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000656)  
kailangan po may accountability.

**[01:51:33.880] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000657)  
Kung wala pong accountability, kung wala pong transparency.

**[01:51:37.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000658)  
So, but if that is your rule, then I will respect it.

**[01:51:42.240] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000659)  
Thank you very much, Honorable Chanko.

**[01:51:44.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000660)  
Majority Leader?

**[01:51:50.820] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000661)  
Madam Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[01:51:57.060] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000662)  
There's a motion to

**[01:51:58.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000663)  
consider the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[01:52:03.860] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000665)  
An objection?

**[01:52:05.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000666)  
Hearing none, the period of sponsorship debate and interpolation on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit is hereby opened.

**[01:52:11.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000667)  
Majority Leader?

**[01:52:13.240] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000668)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the Commission on Audit,

**[01:52:17.300] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000669)  
namely,

**[01:52:17.920] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000670)  
Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba,

**[01:52:20.600] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000671)  
Commissioner Douglas Michael Malilin,

**[01:52:24.680] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000672)  
Assistant Commissioner Alexander Juliano,

**[01:52:27.280] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000673)  
Assistant Commissioner Nilda Plaver,

**[01:52:29.820] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000674)  
Assistant Commissioner Martha Roxana Cese, Assistant Commissioner Lorna Cabotchan, Assistant Commissioner Roy Ursal, Assistant Commissioner Joel Estolatan, Assistant Commissioner Lito Martin, Assistant Commissioner Bresilo Sabaldan, Assistant Commissioner Lucila Isidro, Assistant Commissioner Sofia Hemora, and Assistant Commissioner Estela Mercado.

**[01:52:59.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000675)  
Commission on Audit family, headed by the Chairperson, Gamaliel Cordoba, who never ages except for the missing few strands of hair.

**[01:53:14.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000676)  
Maraming salamat sa pagdalo dito sa Kongreso kasama ang COA family.

**[01:53:19.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000677)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:53:22.060] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000678)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate.

**[01:53:29.820] Rep. Marie Bernadette G. Escudero** (asr-000679)  
I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chairperson, the Honorable John Tracy Cagas, of the Lone District of Davao del Sur, to sponsor the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[01:53:41.940] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000680)  
The Honorable Vice Chairperson, John Tracy Cagas, of the Lone District of Davao del Sur, is hereby recognized to sponsor the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[01:53:51.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000681)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:53:55.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000682)  
I would like also to include or acknowledge the respective

**[01:53:59.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000683)  
Regional Directors of COA, from the different regions of our beloved country.

**[01:54:09.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000684)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleagues, magandang hapon po sa ating lahat.

**[01:54:17.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000685)  
It is my honor to sponsor the budget of the Commission on Audit for Fiscal Year 2027,

**[01:54:28.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000686)  
amounting to

**[01:54:29.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000687)  
16.46 billion pesos, inclusive of the automatic appropriations.

**[01:54:38.040] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000688)  
In terms of new appropriations, which is subject for Congressional approval,

**[01:54:46.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000689)  
the total budget of COA amounts to 14.774 billion,

**[01:54:52.460] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000690)  
which represents an increase of about 2.49%.

**[01:54:59.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000691)  
or 359.12 million, higher than the Fiscal Year 2026 level of 14.415 billion.

**[01:55:13.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000692)  
Madam Speaker, this budget will be used to support the Commission's program, activities, and operations,

**[01:55:22.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000693)  
to ensure accountability for public resources,

**[01:55:28.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000694)  
promote transparency,

**[01:55:29.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000695)  
and help improve government operations

**[01:55:33.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000696)  
in partnership with stakeholders for the benefit of the Filipino people.

**[01:55:40.480] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000697)  
The Commission on Audit is the supreme auditing institution of our nation.

**[01:55:47.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000698)  
It is the ultimate guardian for the public treasury

**[01:55:51.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000699)  
and the bedrock of fiscal accountability.

**[01:55:56.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000701)  
COA does not merely look at numbers. It ensures that every single peso contributed by our hardworking taxpayers is spent efficiently, effectively, and entirely for its intended public purpose.

**[01:56:20.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000702)  
The proposed budget is a vital investment in good governance.

**[01:56:27.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000703)  
By equipping COA with necessary resources, we are strengthening its capability to conduct rigorous audits, expand its workforce of dedicated state auditors,

**[01:56:43.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000704)  
and adopt digital innovations that bring greater transparency.

**[01:56:50.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000705)  
To starve COA of resources is to weaken our defenses against waste and corruption.

**[01:57:04.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000706)  
To support COA is to fortify the integrity of our entire bureaucracy.

**[01:57:11.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000707)  
As we steer our nation toward broader economic growth and development,

**[01:57:18.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000708)  
let us ensure that our

**[01:57:20.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000710)  
oversight institutions remain strong, independent, and fully capable.

**[01:57:29.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000711)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:57:31.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000712)  
This presentation is now ready to answer questions from our distinguished colleagues.

**[01:57:40.960] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000713)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:57:42.920] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000714)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Iris Montes of the Partylist 4K

**[01:57:49.280] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000715)  
to interpellate.

**[01:57:50.640] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000716)  
On the proposed budget of the COA.

**[01:57:53.540] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000717)  
Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

**[01:57:58.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000718)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[01:58:00.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000719)  
Magandang hapon po sa lahat.

**[01:58:02.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000720)  
Ilang katanungan lamang po.

**[01:58:05.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000721)  
Unang tanong ko po, sa laki ng mandato ng COA,

**[01:58:10.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000722)  
sapat ba ang budget nito para maisa katuparan ang mas malawak at mas mabilis na auditing laban sa korupsyon?

**[01:58:20.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000723)  
The question is, sapat na ba ang budget ng COA as proposed?

**[01:58:27.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000724)  
The COA proposed originally before the NEP,

**[01:58:36.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000725)  
17 billion pesos.

**[01:58:41.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000726)  
Pero ang na-approve sa NEP ay 15 billion only.

**[01:58:50.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000727)  
Yung dalawang bilyon na pesos ay para sana yun sa technological innovations.

**[01:59:00.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000728)  
Mga panibagong paggawa ng mga audit.

**[01:59:06.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000729)  
Unfortunately, we failed to provide what is necessary sa pamaraan ng pag-audit ngayon.

**[01:59:17.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000730)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[01:59:18.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000731)  
Yan po kasi yung sunod kong isa.

**[01:59:20.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000732)  
Itatanong, doon sa kakulangan sa budget na trinopose po ng COA,

**[01:59:25.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000733)  
ano po ang mga proyekto o programang matatamaan?

**[01:59:29.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000734)  
At ang susunod ko pong katanungan sana,

**[01:59:32.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000735)  
magkano sana ang nakalaan sa proposed 2027 budget na dedicated to

**[01:59:38.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000736)  
digital audit capabilities, data analytics, artificial intelligence, cyber security,

**[01:59:46.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000737)  
and automated detection of anomalous transactions?

**[01:59:50.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000738)  
Kasi po, sa panahon ngayon, alam din po yan ng COA kung gaano kahalaga ang teknolohiyang ito para mas mapabilis.

**[01:59:59.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000739)  
at

**[02:00:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000740)  
At mas accurate po yung ating mga audit reports.

**[02:00:11.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000741)  
To be specific, distinguished interpellator, ito po yung nabawas, natanggal.

**[02:00:18.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000742)  
M-O-O-E para sana sa mga P254 million and P420 pesos.

**[02:00:36.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000743)  
At saka capital outlay na P1.177 million.

**[02:00:51.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000744)  
1 billion,

**[02:00:52.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000745)  
177 million.

**[02:00:55.560] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000746)  
So, ang budget ng kuha ngayon, walang capital outlay.

**[02:01:07.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000747)  
Kung wala pong capital outlay, Mr. Speaker,

**[02:01:11.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000748)  
ibig sabihin, hindi nga po tayo pwedeng mag-procure

**[02:01:15.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000749)  
ng mga technological, ano,

**[02:01:18.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000750)  
equipment na makakatulong sana sa pag-audit ng kuha.

**[02:01:23.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000751)  
So, wala po.

**[02:01:24.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000752)  
Ibig sabihin po ba sa 2027 proposed budget,

**[02:01:28.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000753)  
kahit SINGCO, wala pong nakalaan para doon?

**[02:01:35.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000754)  
To be a specific, Madam Interpellator, distinguished interpellator,

**[02:01:43.360] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000755)  
semi-expendable information and communication technology, ICT,

**[02:01:48.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000756)  
ITEMS and software subscription,

**[02:01:53.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000757)  
fiscal year 2027,

**[02:01:56.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000758)  
Kuha Information System Strategic Plan or ISSP,

**[02:02:04.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000759)  
na umabot po ng P213,686,000.

**[02:02:10.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000760)  
At saka yung Citizen Participatory Audit or CPA,

**[02:02:18.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000761)  
MOOE requirements, yung mga NGOs, POs na sasali sana sa auditing,

**[02:02:24.460] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000762)  
40,734,000. Total po, 244?254 million 120,000.

**[02:02:35.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000763)  
Ito po sana yung gamitin para sa MOE, you know?

**[02:02:42.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000764)  
At saka yung capital outlay naman, yung sa building ng kuha,

**[02:02:47.360] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000765)  
building and structures, 484,617,000,

**[02:02:55.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000766)  
yung mga furnitures and fixtures, 161,523,000,

**[02:03:02.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000767)  
transportation equipment outlay, 5,600,000,

**[02:03:08.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000768)  
ICT equipment and software, 525,405,000.

**[02:03:16.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000769)  
Total po.

**[02:03:17.360] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000770)  
Ang capital outlay is 1,177,145,000.

**[02:03:25.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000771)  
So hindi na po na-consider sa NEP.

**[02:03:29.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000772)  
So ibig sabihin nga po, wala tayong gagamitin na pag-procure nitong mga ito?

**[02:03:36.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000773)  
Wala po, madam.

**[02:03:37.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000774)  
So ibig sabihin din po niyan, since wala tayong budget para dyan,

**[02:03:43.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000775)  
maaantala po sana yung isang,

**[02:03:47.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000776)  
teknolohiyang pwede nating magamit para mas mapalakas at mapabilis ang ating audit.

**[02:03:53.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000777)  
Tama po ba?

**[02:03:55.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000778)  
Yes, maaantala po yung trabaho nila sa mga bagong panibagong paraan sana.

**[02:04:05.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000779)  
Pero despite of it, I commend COA, you know?

**[02:04:11.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000780)  
Kung natatandaan natin, even the meager resources we are giving them,

**[02:04:17.360] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000781)  
kahit kunti, they try their best.

**[02:04:21.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000782)  
Talagang nagsusumikap sila.

**[02:04:24.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000783)  
Yes, we acknowledge that, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[02:04:30.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000784)  
Pero syempre, gusto natin na bigyan din yung kahalagahan ng teknolohiya.

**[02:04:35.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000785)  
Sa panahon ngayon na iba na po ang nakasanayan ng mga tao,

**[02:04:41.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000786)  
o madami na pong pagbabago, dapat po syempre yung ating audit systems can keep up.

**[02:04:47.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000787)  
With the changes na nangyayari din, ano po?

**[02:04:50.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000788)  
So yun lamang po ang gusto kong puntuhin na mahalaga na nababadgetan po natin yung teknolohiya

**[02:04:57.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000789)  
para mas mapalakas po.

**[02:04:59.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000790)  
Mamaya po, babanggitin ko po uli kung bakit mahalaga din po yung mga teknolohiyang yan.

**[02:05:06.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000791)  
On to my next question, Madam Speaker.

**[02:05:09.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000792)  
Pagdating naman po sa coverage at sa capacity ng COA pa,

**[02:05:13.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000793)  
ilang porsyento ng mga ehensya at LG,

**[02:05:16.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000794)  
yung aktwal na naa-audit ng COA kada taon.

**[02:05:19.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000795)  
Are we 100% naaabot po natin, isang daang porsyentong audit?

**[02:05:30.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000796)  
Except barangay, mga barangay local government units,

**[02:05:36.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000797)  
lahat po ng munisipyo, probinsya, at national agencies ay na-audit po ng COA.

**[02:05:46.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000798)  
Kung sakali po bang meron tayong technical capacity,

**[02:05:49.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000799)  
maaabot po ba natin up to the barangay level?

**[02:05:52.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000800)  
If our, you know, if our...

**[02:05:56.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000801)  
Ano po ba ang dahilan kung bakit hindi naaabot yun?

**[02:05:59.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000802)  
Kulang sa oras? Kulang sa resources?

**[02:06:13.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000803)  
Ah, magandang tanong po yan.

**[02:06:15.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000804)  
Maganda.

**[02:06:17.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000805)  
English Interpolator.

**[02:06:20.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000806)  
Kung merong sapat na teknolohiya.

**[02:06:24.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000807)  
Kasi ngayon, cyclical ay yung audit ng barangay every three years lang.

**[02:06:30.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000808)  
Sa dami, 42,000 barangays.

**[02:06:34.380] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000809)  
Pero kung may sapat na teknolohiya,

**[02:06:37.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000810)  
pwede pong gawin yearly yung audit ng barangay.

**[02:06:44.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000811)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:06:46.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000812)  
Madam Speaker, pagdating naman po sa competence and integrity ng personal, paano po tinitiyak ng COA na ang kanilang mga auditors ay may sapat na training, competence at integridad upang hindi maging bahagi po ng problema?

**[02:07:03.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000813)  
Yung tungkol po sa training, competency and capability of state auditors, upon entry po, pagpasok ng empleyado sa COA, start the training right away.

**[02:07:28.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000814)  
At saka tuloy-tuloy na yan, hanggang tataas-tataas yan.

**[02:07:32.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000815)  
We retain them in the agency. After training po ba, may porsyento po ba dyan na umaalis? O meron po silang, kumbaga may return service or kung meron hindi po return service, may pinirmahan na kontrata na magsiserve sila ng specific period?

**[02:08:02.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000816)  
Yung mga specialized klase ng training, may kontrata po yun na they have to return the investment ng goberno.

**[02:08:17.040] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000817)  
Pero yung mga regular trainings, which is done regularly, wala naman pong kontrata yun. Yung mga specialized training lang po.

**[02:08:28.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000818)  
Do we also have, kaugnay po niyan, may budget po ba?

**[02:08:32.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000819)  
Do we also have, na nakalaan sa pag-hire halimbawa ng mga engineers, yung mga IT specialists, yung mga specialized po na profession that can help COA detect mga highly technical din po na mga dapat na i-audit nila?

**[02:09:00.460] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000820)  
Gusto [unclear] ng COA

**[02:09:02.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000821)  
na mag-hire ng mga specialized fields of knowledge. Limitado po yung item or plantilia ng COA. Meron silang engineer pero limited talaga.

**[02:09:18.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000822)  
Yes po. Thank you Madam Chair, Madam Speaker. Ang punto ko po kasi, alam naman natin kung how the government processes have become increasingly complex.

**[02:09:32.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000823)  
complex sa panahon ngayon. And dagdag re-require din po ito na matugunan natin ng personnel who have the expertise. Halimbawa sa mga infrastructure projects, meron po ba tayo dyan sapat na mga ingeniero, arkitekto, siguro kasama pa yung mga financial analysts, tama po ba ang presyong ito?

**[02:09:59.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000824)  
Kasi ako po naniniwala kung sapat po yung ating personnel, ang know-how ng ating personnel, ang kanilang experience, ang kanilang expertise, mabilis tayong gumawa, may teknolohiya tayo, mas mabilis po nating magagawa ang audit.

**[02:10:15.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000825)  
So ang tanong ko po sa COA, through the years, alam nyo po ito, ang sagot nyo po, wala kayong enough personnel, nag-request na po ba tayo sa DBM ng additional plantilia items?

**[02:10:28.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000826)  
Para matugunan natin ang gap na pong ito?

**[02:10:33.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000827)  
The COA family fully agrees with you, Madam Interpellator.

**[02:10:44.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000828)  
Have you requested the DBM about the plantilia items that you need?

**[02:10:54.860] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000829)  
Yes, the COA requested the DBM about the...

**[02:10:58.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000830)  
plantilia items.

**[02:11:05.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000831)  
Maraming salamat po, madam speaker.

**[02:11:09.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000832)  
Pagdating naman po sa effectiveness natin, ilang corruption-related audit findings nag-resulta po sa aktual na kaso o sanction noong 2025 na lamang po?

**[02:11:43.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000834)  
Thank you for asking that, madam tripulator.

**[02:11:47.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000835)  
Because that really ring a bell to our nation.

**[02:11:55.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000836)  
Yung ginawa ng COA, arising from that scandal,

**[02:12:04.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000862)  
Nagpile ng COA ng fraud audit.

**[02:12:07.860] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000863)  
Nagawa ng fraud audit.

**[02:12:09.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000864)  
At itong audit nila, yun ang ginawang basis or basihan para ma-file yun sa Ombudsman.

**[02:12:20.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000865)  
So, more or less, about...

**[02:12:28.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000868)  
Bulacan alone, the epicenter of the, Bulacan alone, mga 50 cases, criminal cases, ang na-submit sa Ombudsman.

**[02:12:48.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000869)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[02:12:53.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000870)  
Paano po nasisiguran ng COA na ang mga audit reports na ginagawa nito?

**[02:12:58.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000871)  
Ay ano po ang sukatan na ginagamit na talagang nakakapagbawas tayo ng corruption sa gobyerno?

**[02:13:05.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000872)  
May sukatan po ba ang COA?

**[02:13:07.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000873)  
How do you say that COA has been effective in decreasing corruption?

**[02:13:11.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000874)  
Anong metrics po ang ginagamit natin?

**[02:13:26.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000875)  
Yung, ah,

**[02:13:28.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000876)  
from the first,

**[02:13:28.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000877)  
first step of COA's, ah, how do you call it, auditing process.

**[02:13:35.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000878)  
Isang ahensya po, ah,

**[02:13:37.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000879)  
upon COA's knowledge, ah,

**[02:13:41.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000880)  
merong, ano,

**[02:13:42.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000881)  
something's not right, so,

**[02:13:47.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000882)  
gawan po na rin, ano yan, ah,

**[02:13:51.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000883)  
audit, EOM, audit observation memorandum.

**[02:13:55.800] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000884)  
So,

**[02:13:56.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000885)  
the agency concerned,

**[02:13:58.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000886)  
kapat, ano siya, ah,

**[02:14:00.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000887)  
he has to reply or respond to the EOM.

**[02:14:05.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000888)  
Pag ano, ah, na-satisfactory yung ano nila, ah, answer or respond,

**[02:14:11.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000889)  
issue na po ng notice of

**[02:14:14.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000890)  
disallowance, no?

**[02:14:16.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000891)  
Itong transaction na ito is disallowed.

**[02:14:19.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000892)  
Tapos, after notice of disallowance, ah,

**[02:14:28.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000893)  
yung, ah,

**[02:14:36.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000894)  
if he cannot answer, ah, yung notice of disallowance, ah, so, yun, ah, papuntang ombudsman na yung, ano.

**[02:14:48.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000895)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:14:50.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000896)  
Ahm, kasi halimbawa po may mga pagkakataon na discovery ng COA, isang malaking, ah, ah,

**[02:14:57.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000897)  
um, anomalya.

**[02:15:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000898)  
Halimbawa po, paano, anong ginagawa niya, paano nagko-coordinate halimbawa sa Ombudsman, sa DOJ, o kaya sa Kongreso para ma-flag down.

**[02:15:10.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000899)  
So, di ba dapat ang Kongreso, in the exercise of its oversight function, makita yun para hindi naaabot ng matagal, ma-flag down na rin yung programang yun na nagkaroon ng anomalya.

**[02:15:43.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000900)  
Yung report po ng COA ay nabibigyan po ng kopya yung House of Representatives, annual reports. At saka yung mga kaso na umabot ng Ombudsman, the COA personnel or auditors,

**[02:16:06.980] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000901)  
sila po yung stand as witness for the prosecution.

**[02:16:12.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000902)  
Yung annual audit reports, kailan po yan sinusubite ng COA sa Kongreso?

**[02:16:19.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000903)  
Because, you know, in the past, I worked in the House of Representatives for more than three decades.

**[02:16:28.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000904)  
Dati po, automatic.

**[02:16:30.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000905)  
Yan, pinapadala sa mga opisina. Kahit agency annual reports, accomplishment reports, meron.

**[02:16:37.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000906)  
Pero, itong mga recent, in the recent past, wala pong napapadala ang COA.

**[02:16:44.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000907)  
Hindi ko po alam kung saan ninyo sa Kongreso yung sinasubmit.

**[02:16:48.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000908)  
Usually, I check sa website, budget hearing na po, wala pa yung annual audit report.

**[02:16:53.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000909)  
I already mentioned this during the committee hearings, kasi ang sinasabi ko po, napakahalaga.

**[02:17:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000910)  
Ang annual audit reports ng COA para matulungan nyo ang Kongreso sa pag-exercise ng oversight function

**[02:17:08.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000911)  
at para mabusisi ng gusto yung budget ng mga ahensya. Matutulungan nyo po kami.

**[02:17:15.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000912)  
Ang annual audit report dito sa Kongreso is within one month from June 30 to hanggang July.

**[02:17:26.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000913)  
So, ang opisina na binibigyan,

**[02:17:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000914)  
po, ng hard copy, ay ang opisina po ng Speaker of the House.

**[02:17:35.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000915)  
Thank you, Mr. Madam Chair.

**[02:17:38.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000916)  
Last question na lamang po.

**[02:17:40.040] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000917)  
[unclear], Committee on Appropriations Chair.

**[02:17:43.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000918)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:17:45.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000919)  
Huling question na lamang po, on transparency naman po ito and accessibility.

**[02:17:50.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000920)  
Paano po natin nasisiguro na ang, yung mga audit reports din, ay madaling ma-access ng publiko?

**[02:17:58.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000921)  
Kung ako nga po, medyo hirap.

**[02:18:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000922)  
Nang konti.

**[02:18:00.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000923)  
Paano pa po yung publiko?

**[02:18:02.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000924)  
Paano ito madaling ma-access ng publiko, ng civil society, para magsilbing dagdag na bantay laban sa korupsyon?

**[02:18:15.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000925)  
For example, Madam, yung for year 25, example lang ito.

**[02:18:24.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000926)  
Ito po ay available sa COA website on October

**[02:18:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000927)  
31, 2026.

**[02:18:33.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000928)  
So, ngayon, wala pa.

**[02:18:35.560] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000929)  
October 31, 2026.

**[02:18:38.400] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000930)  
Andiyan na po yan sa COA website.

**[02:18:40.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000931)  
Yung annual audit report ng COA sa current, yung previous year, 2025.

**[02:18:49.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000932)  
So, yun po.

**[02:18:51.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000933)  
I think mga 10 months, 10 months after sa previous year.

**[02:18:59.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000934)  
Thank you.

**[02:19:02.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000936)  
Siguro po, yun lamang ang aking mga katanungan.

**[02:19:06.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000937)  
Nais ko lang po sabihin sa huling na sa bawat pisong nasasayang sa korupsyon,

**[02:19:11.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000938)  
isang Pilipino ang nawawalan ng servisyong dapat sa kanya.

**[02:19:15.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000939)  
Kung tunay nating nais nawakasan ang kultura ng katiwalian,

**[02:19:19.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000940)  
dapat nating tiyakin na ang COA ay may sapat na lakas,

**[02:19:23.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000941)  
sapat na tao, at sapat na integridad upang bantayan ang bawat sentimo

**[02:19:29.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000942)  
ng kaban ng bayan.

**[02:19:30.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000943)  
Sa ganitong paraan natin, maipapakita sa sambayanan na ang gobyerno ay seryoso

**[02:19:36.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000944)  
laban sa korupsyon at ang tiwala ng taong bayan ay tunay na mahalaga.

**[02:19:42.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000945)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, Mr. Sponsor at sa COA po.

**[02:19:48.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000946)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:19:51.000] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000947)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Toby M. Tiangco

**[02:19:55.540] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-000948)  
of the Lone District of Navotas to interpellate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[02:20:00.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-000949)  
The Honorable Tiangco is recognized. Please proceed.

**[02:20:05.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000950)  
Madam Speaker, I commend po the job that the COA is doing

**[02:20:10.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000951)  
para po masiguradong maayos po yung gastos ng pera ng ating mga kababayan.

**[02:20:16.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000952)  
So, ang unang tanong ko po is,

**[02:20:20.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000953)  
ang audit po ng COA is based on the calendar year, no?

**[02:20:26.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000954)  
The end of December 31 of every year. Tama po ba?

**[02:20:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000955)  
Yes, sir.

**[02:20:34.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000956)  
Kailan naman po ang deadline ng paglabas ng audit report?

**[02:20:39.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000957)  
For example po, yung December 31, 2025, kailan po ang deadline ng paglabas ng audit report niya?

**[02:20:53.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000958)  
To be specific, Distinguished Interpellator,

**[02:20:58.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000959)  
yung sa...

**[02:20:59.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000960)  
completion of audit report ng ahensya, June 30.

**[02:21:05.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000961)  
So, at ito yung after June 30,

**[02:21:09.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000962)  
ibigay po ito sa RAS, sa House,

**[02:21:13.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000963)  
Speaker, saka sa APRO.

**[02:21:15.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000964)  
Then, yung publication niya is October 31.

**[02:21:21.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000965)  
Yun po ang petsa under the GAA, General Appropriation Act.

**[02:21:26.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000966)  
Okay. So, kaya po, as of now, wala pa po.

**[02:21:29.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000967)  
Hindi pa po napapublish ng COA

**[02:21:32.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000968)  
yung audit report ng House of Representatives. Tama po ba?

**[02:21:36.380] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000969)  
Hindi pa po.

**[02:21:37.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000970)  
Pero meron ng kopya tayo.

**[02:21:39.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000971)  
We have an advance copy.

**[02:21:41.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000972)  
Yung House.

**[02:21:43.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000973)  
Okay.

**[02:21:45.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000974)  
Ngayon, dito po sa House of Representatives,

**[02:21:48.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000975)  
ang congressman po,

**[02:21:51.120] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000976)  
yung mga gastos po natin sa distrito,

**[02:21:55.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000977)  
alam naman po natin yan is liquidation by certification po yan.

**[02:21:58.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000978)  
Tama po ba?

**[02:21:59.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000979)  
Yes, po.

**[02:22:04.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000980)  
At yan po ay pinapayagan po ng COA.

**[02:22:06.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000981)  
Tama po.

**[02:22:11.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000982)  
Pursuant to COA Circular 89-300 of 1989,

**[02:22:18.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-000983)  
Ito po ang ginagamit na basihan at pinapayagan po.

**[02:22:25.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000984)  
Ngayon.

**[02:22:28.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000985)  
So, ang...

**[02:22:29.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000986)  
M-O-O-E

**[02:22:31.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000987)  
ng bawat congressman

**[02:22:33.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000988)  
maging party list o district representatives

**[02:22:37.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000989)  
dahil may gastusin po sila sa kanilang opisina,

**[02:22:40.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000990)  
kung saan po umuan yan,

**[02:22:41.880] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000991)  
ay dapat pantay-pantay.

**[02:22:43.980] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000992)  
Tama po ba?

**[02:22:45.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000993)  
So, ibig sabihin,

**[02:22:46.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000994)  
kung 316 po

**[02:22:48.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000995)  
ang congressman dito,

**[02:22:52.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000996)  
so pagbasihan po natin yung 2024

**[02:22:54.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000997)  
tsaka 2023,

**[02:22:57.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000998)  
base po ba

**[02:22:58.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-000999)  
doon sa

**[02:22:59.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001000)  
audit

**[02:23:01.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001001)  
ng resident auditor

**[02:23:03.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001002)  
ng COA,

**[02:23:06.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001003)  
ang specific na tanong ko

**[02:23:07.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001004)  
is ang bawat congressman ba

**[02:23:10.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001005)  
ay pare-pareho

**[02:23:12.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001006)  
ang natanggap na M-O-O-E

**[02:23:14.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001007)  
at walang mas malaki

**[02:23:17.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001008)  
at walang mas maliit.

**[02:23:19.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001009)  
Base po sa official

**[02:23:21.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001010)  
COA

**[02:23:22.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001011)  
report ng 2024.

**[02:23:26.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001012)  
2024 po muna.

**[02:23:28.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001013)  
Ah...

**[02:23:28.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001014)  
Distinguished Interpolator,

**[02:23:32.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001015)  
ang tanong po

**[02:23:33.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001016)  
sa

**[02:23:33.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001017)  
question about

**[02:23:37.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001018)  
pantay-pantay,

**[02:23:38.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001019)  
hindi po may sagot

**[02:23:41.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001020)  
ng COA,

**[02:23:42.980] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001021)  
discretion po

**[02:23:43.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001022)  
ng house leadership

**[02:23:46.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001023)  
or house speaker.

**[02:23:49.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001024)  
Hindi po

**[02:23:50.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001025)  
sa level ng COA yung mga

**[02:23:52.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001026)  
pagbibigay ng

**[02:23:53.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001027)  
pagbibigay ng mga

**[02:23:57.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001028)  
tawag na?

**[02:23:58.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001029)  
M-O-O-E.

**[02:24:00.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001030)  
Ah, M-O-O-E, yeah.

**[02:24:01.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001031)  
Hindi, liliwanagin ko po muna

**[02:24:02.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001032)  
yung tanong ko.

**[02:24:04.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001033)  
So, base po sa sagot ninyo,

**[02:24:06.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001034)  
hindi po pantay,

**[02:24:08.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001035)  
tama po ba

**[02:24:08.880] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001036)  
na hindi po pantay-pantay

**[02:24:11.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001037)  
ang M-O-O-E

**[02:24:12.980] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001038)  
ng lahat ng congressman?

**[02:24:14.260] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001039)  
Tama po ba yan?

**[02:24:15.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001040)  
Ah, sa kadahilanan,

**[02:24:18.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001041)  
may mga...

**[02:24:19.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001042)  
Hindi, una po,

**[02:24:21.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001043)  
tama po ba na

**[02:24:21.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001044)  
base po sa

**[02:24:23.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001045)  
2024 audit report,

**[02:24:27.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001046)  
hindi po pantay-pantay,

**[02:24:28.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001047)  
ang M-O-O-E

**[02:24:30.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001048)  
ng lahat ng congressman. Tama po ba?

**[02:24:33.800] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001049)  
Are 2024

**[02:24:34.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001050)  
prior years?

**[02:24:38.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001051)  
Hindi, yung 2024 po muna.

**[02:24:39.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001052)  
Yung 2024 audit lang po muna,

**[02:24:42.980] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001053)  
base po sa sagot nyo,

**[02:24:44.120] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001054)  
sinasabi nyo po

**[02:24:45.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001055)  
na hindi po pantay-pantay

**[02:24:47.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001056)  
ang M-O-O-E

**[02:24:49.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001057)  
ng bawat congressman

**[02:24:50.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001058)  
dahil yan po ay discretion

**[02:24:52.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001059)  
ng speaker. Tama po?

**[02:25:48.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001115)  
Okay, yung pong sa kanina,

**[02:25:53.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001116)  
Depende po kasi sa committee, chairmanship, membership,

**[02:25:58.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001117)  
sa activities ng isang distrito.

**[02:26:01.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001118)  
So, kaya po na ganoon ang ano.

**[02:26:07.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001119)  
Depende po sa, for example,

**[02:26:11.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001120)  
may mga kongurgista na membro ng mga committees, ganoon.

**[02:26:19.480] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001121)  
So, ayun po, compared to iba naman na congressman,

**[02:26:23.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001122)  
yung iba matrabaho, yung iba hindi masyadong matrabaho.

**[02:26:31.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001123)  
Tama po. So, tinatanong ko lang po.

**[02:26:33.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001124)  
So, maliwanag na hindi po pare-pareho.

**[02:26:36.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001125)  
Okay. Next po.

**[02:26:42.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001126)  
Ang allowed lang po ba ng certification by liquidation ay yung congressman

**[02:26:47.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001127)  
o may mga staff din ng congressman

**[02:26:50.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001128)  
o staff ng House of Representatives

**[02:26:53.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001129)  
na allowed ng liquidation by certification?

**[02:26:56.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001130)  
Ito po, ang pinag-uusapan po natin dito, Honorable Sponsor,

**[02:27:00.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001131)  
ay yung audit report ng 2024 po.

**[02:27:04.380] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001132)  
So, congressman lang po ba ang pwede ng certification by liquidation

**[02:27:09.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001133)  
o pati po staff ng House of Representatives

**[02:27:13.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001134)  
o staff ng congressman ay allowed ng certification by liquidation?

**[02:27:21.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001135)  
O strictly, yung congressman lang po ba?

**[02:27:23.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001136)  
Yung pong hindi congressman o hindi representante, hindi po sila allowed.

**[02:27:39.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001136-split-2)  
So, maliwanag po, pag may nakita po ang COA na isang empleyado ng House of Representatives

**[02:27:48.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001137)  
at o isang empleyado ng congressman,

**[02:27:53.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001138)  
na hindi po nagsubmit ng mga resibo sa kanilang liquidation,

**[02:27:58.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001139)  
eh magiging audit finding po ito.

**[02:28:00.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001140)  
Tama po ba, Honorable Sponsor?

**[02:28:06.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001141)  
Tama po. Tama po.

**[02:28:10.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001142)  
Okay.

**[02:28:23.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001144)  
So, since 2024 po ang pinakahuling may audit report,

**[02:28:40.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001145)  
magkano po ang nagastos po ng House of Representatives

**[02:28:44.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001146)  
sa supplies and materials noon pong 2024 base po sa COA audit report?

**[02:28:53.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001147)  
Ah, tignan po namin yung mga records pa.

**[02:29:03.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001148)  
Madam Speaker, sa tingin ko po, habang hindi po sumasagot,

**[02:29:07.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001149)  
hindi po dapat gumagalaw po yung ora.

**[02:29:09.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001150)  
Habang naghahanap silang sagot.

**[02:30:48.950] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001154)  
Madam Chair, may I ask for a suspension while we are collecting the data for 2024?

**[02:30:57.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001154-split-2)  
Session suspended.

**[02:31:52.600] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001156)  
Session resumed. The sponsor is requested to respond to the query of the Honorable Tiangco.

**[02:32:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001157)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[02:32:04.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001158)  
Yung 2024

**[02:32:06.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001159)  
annual audit report

**[02:32:08.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001160)  
po ng COA,

**[02:32:10.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001161)  
yung tanong tungkol

**[02:32:12.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001162)  
sa supplies. So,

**[02:32:15.480] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001163)  
yung sa supplies,

**[02:32:16.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001164)  
meron po tayong nagasto

**[02:32:18.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001165)  
na 15.472

**[02:32:21.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001166)  
million.

**[02:32:22.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001167)  
15,472,000.

**[02:32:25.560] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001168)  
Pero yung kabuhuan

**[02:32:26.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001169)  
po ng supplies, total supplies,

**[02:32:27.980] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001170)  
no?

**[02:32:29.380] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001171)  
84

**[02:32:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001172)  
million

**[02:32:31.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001173)  
788,000

**[02:32:34.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001174)  
for the year 2024.

**[02:32:36.980] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001175)  
Tama po yan. Doon po sa nakita ko,

**[02:32:40.080] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001176)  
mukhang, sa inyo po,

**[02:32:41.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001177)  
84 million 788,000.

**[02:32:43.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001178)  
Tama po, Honorable

**[02:32:45.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001179)  
Sponsor?

**[02:32:48.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001180)  
Doon po sa nakita ko, it's

**[02:32:49.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001181)  
84 million 790,000.

**[02:32:52.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001182)  
So, maliit lang po, diferensya.

**[02:32:54.880] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001183)  
Pero, yan po ang

**[02:32:55.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001184)  
nagastos. Tama po, Honorable

**[02:32:57.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001185)  
Sponsor?

**[02:32:58.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001186)  
Yes, po.

**[02:33:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001187)  
As reflected in the record of

**[02:33:01.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001188)  
2024. Yes.

**[02:33:03.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001189)  
Pero po, tama po ba

**[02:33:05.360] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001190)  
na ang budget na allocated

**[02:33:08.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001191)  
po sa item na yan,

**[02:33:10.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001192)  
base sa COA audit report,

**[02:33:12.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001193)  
ang inallocate po nating

**[02:33:13.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001194)  
budget ay

**[02:33:14.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001195)  
P939,870,000.

**[02:33:22.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001198)  
P939,870,000.

**[02:33:30.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001203)  
Tama po.

**[02:33:33.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001205)  
Madam Chair, may I ask for another

**[02:33:34.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001206)  
suspension while collecting the data?

**[02:33:37.860] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001207)  
Session suspended.

**[02:40:34.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001232)  
Session resumed. The sponsor may now respond to the queries of the Honorable Tiangco.

**[02:40:49.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001232-split-2)  
May I ask, ano po yung gist ng tanong ko?

**[02:40:58.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001232-split-3)  
Ganito po, Honorable Sponsor,

**[02:40:59.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001235)  
Dahil po doon sa COA report, halos magkatugma po tayo. Ang nagastos po sa supplies and materials for 2024, based sa COA audit report, is P84,790,000. Sa inyo po P84,788,000. Ang tanong ko po is doon sa COA report nakasulat po rin diyan magkano yung inallocate

**[02:41:29.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001236)  
magkano po yung binudget ng House for supplies and materials for that year. Yun po yung aking tanong. So doon po sa COA audit report nila, magkano po ang naka-indicate na binudget? Kasi mahalaga yan, pag nag-budget tayo pinagkukumpara po ng COA kung nagastos po lahat dahil hindi naman tayo pwedeng sumobra ng gastos doon sa inallocate nating pondo.

**[02:41:59.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001237)  
Kaya ang tanong ko po, magkano po ang naka-allocate na budget for supplies and materials for 2024 based doon sa COA report of 2024? Yun po, Mr. Sponsor.

**[02:42:29.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001238)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Interpellator. Itong mga katanungan regarding 2024 budget, and you have a copy also. So [unclear] po ito lahat.

**[02:42:59.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001239)  
It is reflected na yung tinatanong ninyo po ay, we are basing the same answer and questions sa annual audit report of 2024. So far as per record andiyan naman yan.

**[02:43:29.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001240)  
So more or less P939 million po. P939 million as reflected sa annual audit report.

**[02:43:46.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001240-split-2)  
O tama po yan. So yun nga po, doon sa annual audit report, ang naka-reflect po is sa supplies and materials ang naka-budget po is

**[02:43:59.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001241)  
P939,870,000, ngunit ang nagastos lang is P84,790,000. Ngayon po, punta po tayo sa utilities. Confirm na lang po ng COA doon sa kanilang COA audit report: ang budget po sa utilities is P854 million pero ang nagastos lang po is P113 million more or less. Tama po ba?

**[02:45:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001244)  
Okay, Madam Speaker, so far as Annual Audit Report 2024 is reflection of the budget.

**[02:45:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001245)  
Yung utility expenses. Ito ba? Utility expenses?

**[02:45:35.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001246)  
Opo, opo.

**[02:45:38.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001247)  
Ang kabuwang budget po ay 854.

**[02:45:42.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001248)  
Tama po.

**[02:45:43.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001249)  
More or less.

**[02:45:44.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001250)  
Tama po.

**[02:45:45.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001251)  
Ang nagastos po is 113 million. Tama po ba?

**[02:45:49.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001252)  
Yes po.

**[02:45:50.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001253)  
Okay. So doon pa lang sa supplies and materials.

**[02:45:58.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001254)  
For 2024.

**[02:46:00.260] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001255)  
Based on the audit report.

**[02:46:02.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001256)  
Merong hindi nagastos na 855 million.

**[02:46:08.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001257)  
At doon po sa 2024 utilities.

**[02:46:11.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001258)  
Meron pong hindi nagastos na 741 million.

**[02:46:16.380] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001259)  
So ang sunod na tanong ko po.

**[02:46:18.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001260)  
Saan po dinala itong savings na ito?

**[02:46:25.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001261)  
Yung 855 million.

**[02:46:28.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001262)  
80,000.

**[02:46:30.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001263)  
Tsaka yung 741 million.

**[02:46:33.360] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001264)  
So hindi po nagastos yan.

**[02:46:35.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001265)  
Saan po nilipat yan?

**[02:46:36.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001266)  
Nagastusin.

**[02:46:39.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001267)  
Base po doon sa 2024 COA Audit Report.

**[02:48:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001278)  
Yung pong tanong, ang trabaho po ng COA ay nag-a-audit po ng mga nagastos, what is being spent. Then kung saan po man nadala iyon, hindi na po alam ng COA yan.

**[02:48:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001279)  
That is, hindi nila alam. So ang na-audit nila, yung nagastos. So whatever savings or saan man napunta, hindi alam ng COA.

**[02:48:47.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001279-split-2)  
Sa tingin ko po dapat alam po ng COA kung saan nilipat iyon dahil gagastusin po ulit iyon eh. So bago gastusin iyon,

**[02:49:00.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001280)  
kailangan pong i-realign iyon. So siguro po dapat po makita iyon.

**[02:49:18.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001280-split-2)  
Ganito na lang po siguro, ang atin pong pinag-usapan ngayon ay ang buong budget ng COA. We are here to seek our support.

**[02:49:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001281)  
Matters of the budget of the House as early as 2024, 2023. To be fair with COA, andiyan naman yung report nila, binigay na nila. If we have some speculation, suspicion, it?s not fair for COA sila yung pananagutin

**[02:50:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001282)  
kung saan man napunta ang pera. But for us here is to? they?re doing their job, andiyan naman yan as reflected sa annual audit report. Wala namang tinatago diyan, open naman yan. But to subject them to speculation, hindi na kasali ang COA diyan.

**[02:50:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001283)  
Distinguished Interpellator, iyon po ang stand namin para ipaglaban natin yung COA. I think it?s no longer fair for them na tinatanong tayo tungkol sa budget ng House. Tayo ang dapat nakaalam, bakit ibang ahensya pa? This is our House, this is our budget. Dapat COA ginagawa nila ang trabaho nila.

**[02:51:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001284)  
Yung mga tanong nandiyan sa annual audit report.

**[02:51:10.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001284-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, Honorable Sponsor, wala po akong duda, hindi ko pinagdududahan yung COA. Hindi po ako nags-speculate, in fact full support po ako sa budget ng COA for the record. So wala pong tanong doon. Ito pong tanong ko ay base po sa annual

**[02:51:30.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001285)  
audit report nila na katungkulan nilang gawin. So sa tingin ko po wala pong masama doon sa mga tanong natin. Anyway, susunod na lang po doon sa extraordinary and miscellaneous expenses ng House, ang naka-budget po sa 2024 is P1.7 billion. Tama po? Tama po.

**[02:52:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001286)  
Madam Chair, may I ask for a suspension?

**[02:52:04.080] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001286-split-2)  
Session suspended. So the distinguished sponsor can confer with the agency.

**[02:57:42.000] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001303)  
Session resumed.

**[02:57:46.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001305)  
Okay.

**[02:57:50.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001307)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:57:54.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001309)  
as far as

**[02:57:56.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001310)  
2024

**[02:57:58.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001311)  
budget is concerned,

**[02:58:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001312)  
Andiyan naman sabi ko kanina, andiyan naman po niyan sa pabisayos na po niyan, lahat, open naman, transparent.

**[02:58:09.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001313)  
Para hindi po tayo masasayang ng panahon, ayaw ko na pong mag-respond.

**[02:58:15.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001314)  
Any questions regarding the house, mga expenses for 2024?

**[02:58:22.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001315)  
Kung meron namang gustong itanong ang Distinguished Interpolator, pwede ba pakisulat na lang at itanong na lang natin sa proper authorities or proper office po.

**[02:58:38.040] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001316)  
Iyon lang po ang buong kasagutan ng Distinguished Interpolator.

**[02:58:44.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001317)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, alam niyo po, yung mga katanungan ay tungkol po sa audit report ng COA.

**[02:58:52.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001318)  
So, mandato po ng COA yan, kasama po sa mandato ng COA yan.

**[02:58:56.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001319)  
Pero kung ayaw na pong sumagot ng Distinguished Sponsor sa kahit anong katanungan, wala naman po tayong magagawa.

**[02:59:03.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001320)  
Then, hinto na po tayo sa pagtatanong kung ayaw na pong sumagot.

**[02:59:07.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001321)  
Iyon lang po, Madam Speaker.

**[02:59:11.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001322)  
Thank you po. Thank you.

**[02:59:15.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001323)  
Does the Honorable Chanko have further questions?

**[02:59:17.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001324)  
Wala na po, kasi sinabi na po ng ating sponsor na hindi na po siya sasagot sa kahit anong tanong.

**[02:59:22.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001325)  
So, paano pa po ako mag-tatanong kung iyon po ang desisyon?

**[02:59:27.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001326)  
Hindi na rin po ako pwede magtanong, Madam Speaker.

**[02:59:31.260] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001327)  
I believe the Distinguished Sponsor is actually willing to respond to questions.

**[02:59:36.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001328)  
And for the other queries of the Honorable Chanko, the Commission on Audit Family is hereby requested to submit all the documents that he is requesting.

**[02:59:47.380] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001329)  
Majority Leader?

**[02:59:52.760] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001330)  
Madam Speaker,

**[02:59:56.100] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001331)  
I move that we

**[03:00:00.000] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001332)  
recognize the Honorable

**[03:00:01.820] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001333)  
Robert Nazal of Partylist

**[03:00:08.180] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001334)  
BH

**[03:00:09.440] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001335)  
The Honorable Robert Nazal

**[03:00:12.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001336)  
is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[03:00:18.820] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001337)  
Madam Speaker, I withdraw

**[03:00:20.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001338)  
my motion.

**[03:00:22.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001339)  
Madam Speaker, dagdag na lang po.

**[03:00:24.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001340)  
Liliwanagin ko lang po. I fully support

**[03:00:26.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001341)  
the budget. Before that,

**[03:00:27.520] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001341-split-2)  
the Honorable

**[03:00:27.960] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001342)  
Chanko is recognized.

**[03:00:29.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001343)  
Liliwanagin ko lang po. I fully support

**[03:00:32.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001344)  
the budget of

**[03:00:33.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001345)  
the COA. Yun lang po.

**[03:00:36.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-001346)  
Madam Speaker. Thank you. Thank you po. Salamat.

**[03:00:38.220] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001347)  
Maraming salamat.

**[03:00:39.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001348)  
Majority Leader.

**[03:00:42.500] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001349)  
Madam Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[03:00:44.580] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001350)  
the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago

**[03:00:46.360] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001351)  
of the Partylist Gabriela

**[03:00:48.420] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001352)  
to interpellate on the proposed budget

**[03:00:50.380] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001353)  
of the Commission on Audit.

**[03:00:52.300] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001354)  
The Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela

**[03:00:54.260] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001355)  
Women's Partylist is hereby recognized

**[03:00:56.680] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001356)  
for interpellation.

**[03:00:59.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001357)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[03:01:02.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001358)  
Unang-una tungkol sa paggamit

**[03:01:05.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001359)  
ng Gender and Development

**[03:01:06.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001360)  
Fund.

**[03:01:09.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001361)  
Ang Magna Carta of Women

**[03:01:10.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001362)  
or Republic Act No. 9710

**[03:01:13.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001363)  
ang nagpapatibay

**[03:01:15.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001364)  
sa legal

**[03:01:16.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001365)  
at

**[03:01:17.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001366)  
pampalisiya na pundasyon

**[03:01:20.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001367)  
para sa gender mainstreaming

**[03:01:23.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001368)  
sa Pilipinas.

**[03:01:25.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001369)  
A cornerstone

**[03:01:27.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001370)  
of this law is Section

**[03:01:28.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001371)  
36A, which

**[03:01:30.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001372)  
mandates all government entities

**[03:01:32.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001373)  
to allocate at least 5%

**[03:01:34.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001374)  
of their total appropriations

**[03:01:36.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001375)  
to gender and development programs,

**[03:01:38.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001376)  
activities, and projects to advance

**[03:01:40.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001377)  
gender equality and women's empowerment.

**[03:01:43.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001378)  
Maari po ba nating

**[03:01:44.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001379)  
malaman mula sa COA

**[03:01:46.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001380)  
kung meron na po ba kayong

**[03:01:48.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001381)  
na-issuhan halimbawa ng

**[03:01:50.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001382)  
notice of disallowance

**[03:01:53.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001383)  
o meron po kayong

**[03:01:54.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001384)  
nilabas

**[03:01:56.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001385)  
na audit observation,

**[03:01:58.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001386)  
memorandum,

**[03:02:00.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001387)  
o kaya meron ba kayong nakita

**[03:02:02.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001388)  
na potensyal na administrative

**[03:02:05.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001389)  
liability

**[03:02:06.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001390)  
tungkol sa paggamit ng

**[03:02:08.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001391)  
Gender and Development

**[03:02:10.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001392)  
Fund

**[03:02:11.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001393)  
o compliance ng ating mga government

**[03:02:14.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001394)  
agencies sa kanilang

**[03:02:16.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001395)  
gender and development mandate?

**[03:02:22.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001396)  
May I respond?

**[03:02:28.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001397)  
Yeah,

**[03:02:28.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-001398)  
Distinguished Sponsor, please proceed.

**[03:02:30.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001399)  
Okay, yung tanong po na

**[03:02:32.980] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001400)  
kung meron na ba na-issuhan ng

**[03:02:36.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001401)  
AOM or

**[03:02:38.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001402)  
notice of disallowance tungkol

**[03:02:40.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001403)  
sa paggamit ng

**[03:02:42.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001404)  
GAD.

**[03:02:44.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001405)  
Meron na po in the past

**[03:02:46.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001406)  
mga nakaraang taon, meron na po

**[03:02:48.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001407)  
kasi hindi po siya

**[03:02:51.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001408)  
sangayon sa guidelines

**[03:02:53.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001409)  
na ini-issued ng

**[03:02:54.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001410)  
Philippine

**[03:02:58.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001411)  
Commission on Women.

**[03:03:00.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001412)  
Meron na po.

**[03:03:04.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001413)  
Madam Speaker, maali ba natin malaman

**[03:03:06.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001414)  
kung ano po yung nature

**[03:03:08.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001415)  
nitong mga notice of disallowance,

**[03:03:10.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001416)  
AOM,

**[03:03:12.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001417)  
o yung potential

**[03:03:14.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001418)  
na administrative liability?

**[03:03:16.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001419)  
Ito po ba ay tungkol halimbawa

**[03:03:18.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001420)  
sa diversion of funds?

**[03:03:20.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001421)  
Halimbawa, meron din po kasing

**[03:03:22.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001422)  
observation ang Philippine Commission on Women

**[03:03:24.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001423)  
na tinatrato itong parang

**[03:03:26.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001424)  
contingency or reserve funds.

**[03:03:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001425)  
O kaya naman,

**[03:03:30.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001426)  
may kinalaman po ba ito sa

**[03:03:32.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001427)  
bloating,

**[03:03:34.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001428)  
cost inflation?

**[03:03:36.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001429)  
May kinalaman ba ito sa over-tagging?

**[03:03:38.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001430)  
Ibig sabihin po,

**[03:03:40.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001431)  
pagkalaki-laking mga pondo

**[03:03:42.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001432)  
sa kanilang mga programa ang

**[03:03:44.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001433)  
natatag bilang

**[03:03:46.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001434)  
ginamit sa gender and development,

**[03:03:48.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001435)  
samantalang kung susuriin mo naman po

**[03:03:50.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001436)  
kung paano ito ginamit,

**[03:03:52.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001437)  
ay wala naman pong kinalaman

**[03:03:54.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001438)  
sa pagtitiyak ng

**[03:03:56.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001439)  
prinsipyo, halimbawa, ng Magna

**[03:03:58.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001440)  
Carta of Women, o may kinalaman

**[03:04:00.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001441)  
sa prinsipyo ng tunguhin natin

**[03:04:02.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001442)  
na gusto na pagkapantay-pantay,

**[03:04:04.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001443)  
na ito po ay hindi lang

**[03:04:06.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001444)  
magsisilbi sa mga kababaihan,

**[03:04:08.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001445)  
kundi pati na rin sa mga kalalakihan

**[03:04:10.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001446)  
at sa lahat ng kasarihan.

**[03:04:20.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001447)  
Iyon po ang basihan

**[03:04:22.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001448)  
na bakit po

**[03:04:24.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001449)  
merong audit observation,

**[03:04:28.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001450)  
yung paggamit ng

**[03:04:30.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001451)  
GAD,

**[03:04:32.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001452)  
GAD funds,

**[03:04:34.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001453)  
GAD na pondo,

**[03:04:36.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001454)  
sa kadahilanan

**[03:04:38.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001455)  
na ito po ay

**[03:04:42.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001456)  
not in accordance sa

**[03:04:44.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001457)  
guidelines ng

**[03:04:48.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001458)  
PCW,

**[03:04:50.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001459)  
Philippine Commission on Women.

**[03:04:52.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001460)  
So, iyon po ang

**[03:04:54.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001461)  
main reason,

**[03:04:56.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001462)  
or

**[03:04:58.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001463)  
the gist of

**[03:05:00.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001464)  
the AOM.

**[03:05:04.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001465)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[03:05:06.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001466)  
Meron po kasing halimbawa,

**[03:05:08.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001467)  
meron po tayong mga agencies

**[03:05:10.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001468)  
at meron po tayong

**[03:05:12.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001469)  
mga

**[03:05:14.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001470)  
mga councils kung saan po

**[03:05:16.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001471)  
ang tagged as

**[03:05:18.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001472)  
utilized for the integration

**[03:05:20.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001473)  
of gender and development.

**[03:05:22.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001474)  
Sing laki ng mga

**[03:05:24.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001475)  
kalaking tipak ng pondo, halimbawa

**[03:05:26.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001476)  
sa DOLE, yung kanilang tupad

**[03:05:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001477)  
na tagged na

**[03:05:30.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001478)  
integrated ang gender and development.

**[03:05:32.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001479)  
Pero kung susuriin po natin

**[03:05:34.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001480)  
kung paano ba ito

**[03:05:36.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001481)  
na ibigay at

**[03:05:38.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001482)  
na bigay na support na para

**[03:05:40.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001483)  
sa mga displaced workers, hindi naman po

**[03:05:42.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001484)  
natin makita kung paano

**[03:05:44.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001485)  
talagang na-integrate

**[03:05:46.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001486)  
yung prinsipyo ng pagtitiyak

**[03:05:48.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001487)  
ng mas mataas na partisipasyon

**[03:05:50.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001488)  
ng mga kababaihan, o kung

**[03:05:52.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001489)  
paano ba matitiyak

**[03:05:54.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001490)  
na may particular

**[03:05:56.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001491)  
section dun sa

**[03:05:58.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001492)  
budget na

**[03:06:00.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001493)  
nilalaan para sa mga kababaihan

**[03:06:02.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001494)  
na walang trabaho o naghahanap ng trabaho.

**[03:06:04.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001495)  
Meron po ba sa ngayon

**[03:06:06.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001496)  
na effort ang COA

**[03:06:08.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001497)  
para maitulak

**[03:06:10.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001498)  
ang mas malakas na

**[03:06:12.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001499)  
pagpapatupad ng guidelines na ito

**[03:06:14.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001500)  
tungkol sa gender and development

**[03:06:16.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001501)  
utilization? Mahalaga ito

**[03:06:18.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001502)  
ngayon, Madam Speaker, dahil

**[03:06:20.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001503)  
meron po tayong

**[03:06:22.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001504)  
panukala ngayon sa harap ng

**[03:06:24.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001505)  
House Committee on Women and Gender Equality

**[03:06:26.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001506)  
na nais at nagtutulak

**[03:06:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001507)  
na mas maitaas

**[03:06:30.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001508)  
pa yung minimum na ginagastos

**[03:06:32.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001509)  
for GAD utilization.

**[03:06:34.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001510)  
Mahirap pong pag-usapan

**[03:06:36.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001511)  
yung pagtaas nito kung

**[03:06:38.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001512)  
ngayon pa lang dun sa minimum na

**[03:06:40.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001513)  
5%, ay hindi na po natin

**[03:06:42.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001514)  
natitiyak na talagang nagagamit

**[03:06:44.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001515)  
ito para sa layunin

**[03:06:46.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001516)  
na magsilbi para sa integration

**[03:06:48.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001517)  
ng gender and development.

**[03:06:50.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001518)  
So, tanong

**[03:06:52.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001519)  
po na meron bang effort

**[03:06:54.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001520)  
or

**[03:06:58.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001521)  
mga

**[03:07:00.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001522)  
pagsusumikap ang COA

**[03:07:02.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001523)  
para matugunan

**[03:07:04.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001524)  
ang gender

**[03:07:06.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001525)  
and

**[03:07:08.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001526)  
development budget.

**[03:07:10.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001527)  
Ang ginagawa po

**[03:07:12.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001528)  
ng COA,

**[03:07:14.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001529)  
lahat po ng ahensya

**[03:07:16.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001530)  
ng goberno, national

**[03:07:18.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001531)  
agencies,

**[03:07:20.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001532)  
local government units,

**[03:07:22.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001533)  
GOCCs,

**[03:07:24.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001534)  
pati na mga

**[03:07:26.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001535)  
barangay.

**[03:07:30.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001536)  
Kanila po

**[03:07:32.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001537)  
itong

**[03:07:34.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001538)  
monitor,

**[03:07:36.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001539)  
sinusubaybayan.

**[03:07:38.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001540)  
Paano pinupunduhan o paano

**[03:07:40.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001541)  
ginamit ang pundo

**[03:07:42.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001542)  
ng GAD?

**[03:07:44.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001543)  
Ito po lahat,

**[03:07:46.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001544)  
nasa kanilang

**[03:07:48.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001545)  
report in their annual audit

**[03:07:50.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001546)  
reports. Mayroon po,

**[03:07:52.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001547)  
mayroon talagang

**[03:07:54.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001548)  
komentaryo or about sa GAD

**[03:07:56.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001549)  
kung nagagamit ba talaga nila

**[03:07:58.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001550)  
in accordance with the

**[03:08:00.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001551)  
guidelines of the PCW.

**[03:08:02.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001552)  
Maraming salamat

**[03:08:04.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001553)  
Madam Speaker at

**[03:08:06.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001554)  
ang advisory po na ito

**[03:08:08.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001555)  
ay lumabas lang kasi nitong

**[03:08:10.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001556)  
2025 at hangad natin na ang

**[03:08:12.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001557)  
lahat ng mga agencies

**[03:08:14.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001558)  
natin, ang mga komisyon

**[03:08:16.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001559)  
na kabilang sa nagpalakas

**[03:08:18.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001560)  
nitong guidelines para sa GAD

**[03:08:20.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001561)  
matiyak talaga na yung

**[03:08:22.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001562)  
mga implementers natin,

**[03:08:24.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001563)  
yung mga enforcers ay meron

**[03:08:26.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001564)  
ding halimbawan training tungkol

**[03:08:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001565)  
sa ano ba yung

**[03:08:30.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001566)  
prinsipyo ng gender and development

**[03:08:32.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001567)  
na hindi dapat

**[03:08:34.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001568)  
natuturing nahiwalay yung

**[03:08:36.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001569)  
paggastos sa GAD, kundi integrated

**[03:08:38.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001570)  
dun sa mga mayor na nilang

**[03:08:40.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001571)  
mga programa at mga

**[03:08:42.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001572)  
mandato nila bilang mga

**[03:08:44.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001573)  
agencies o mga komisyon.

**[03:08:46.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001574)  
Ngayon naman po, hihingi na lang po natin

**[03:08:48.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001575)  
yung buong ulat dito ng COA,

**[03:08:50.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001576)  
at hangad po natin na makipagupuan din

**[03:08:52.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001577)  
sa PCW at sa

**[03:08:54.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001578)  
mga relevant agencies kung paano

**[03:08:56.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001579)  
matitiyak na ang

**[03:08:58.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001580)  
GAD utilization para po talaga sa GAD

**[03:09:00.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001581)  
at hindi yung

**[03:09:02.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001582)  
mga pagpuna po sa ngayon

**[03:09:04.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001583)  
na nakikita na lamang ito

**[03:09:06.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001584)  
bilang pandagdag na pondo

**[03:09:08.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001585)  
o kaya naman ay

**[03:09:10.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001586)  
nagagamit din

**[03:09:12.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001587)  
dun sa mga wala namang kinalaman

**[03:09:14.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001588)  
na mga programa sa

**[03:09:16.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001589)  
GAD. Ngayon naman,

**[03:09:18.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001590)  
Madam Speaker, ngayon po ay

**[03:09:20.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001591)  
September 21, first year

**[03:09:22.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001592)  
anniversary nung Baha sa Luneta at

**[03:09:24.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001593)  
Trilyon Peso March, kung saan

**[03:09:26.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001594)  
nagmarcha yung libo-libo nating

**[03:09:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001595)  
mga kababayan na nananawagan

**[03:09:30.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001596)  
ng transparency,

**[03:09:32.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001597)  
accountability,

**[03:09:34.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001598)  
lahat ng sangkot sa korupsyon dapat

**[03:09:36.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001599)  
managot. At yung isa po

**[03:09:38.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001600)  
sa mga binabantayan

**[03:09:40.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001601)  
ng ating mga kababayan ay

**[03:09:42.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001602)  
ang paggamit ng confidential

**[03:09:44.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001603)  
and intelligence funds. Para po

**[03:09:46.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001604)  
sa taong 2027,

**[03:09:48.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001605)  
ilang agencies po ba ang may

**[03:09:50.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001606)  
confidential and intelligence funds?

**[03:09:56.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001607)  
Madam Speaker po.

**[03:09:58.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001608)  
2027 po?

**[03:09:59.430] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001608-split-2)  
Yes.

**[03:10:00.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001609)  
For the proposed 2027 budget.

**[03:10:02.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001610)  
For the proposed

**[03:10:04.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001611)  
itong budget natin ngayon?

**[03:10:06.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001612)  
For the next year, Madam Speaker.

**[03:10:18.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001613)  
Madam Speaker,

**[03:10:24.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001614)  
ang COA po

**[03:10:26.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001615)  
as of now,

**[03:10:28.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001616)  
ngayon po,

**[03:10:30.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001617)  
wala pa pong

**[03:10:32.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001618)  
data

**[03:10:34.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001619)  
kung ilan mga

**[03:10:36.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001620)  
ahensya ng goberno

**[03:10:38.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001621)  
ang merong confidential

**[03:10:40.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001622)  
and intelligence funds

**[03:10:42.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001623)  
for next year, for 2027.

**[03:10:44.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001624)  
Wala pa po.

**[03:10:46.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001625)  
Madam Speaker, ang pagmamahal

**[03:10:48.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001626)  
pwede na lang po natin hingin ay

**[03:10:50.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001627)  
yung para sa 2025.

**[03:10:52.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001628)  
Ilang

**[03:10:54.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001629)  
agencies po ba? Kasi

**[03:10:56.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001630)  
sa 2025 po, malamang po sa ngayon

**[03:10:58.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001631)  
tapos na po lahat ng

**[03:11:00.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001632)  
reporting na may kinalaman

**[03:11:02.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001633)  
sa utilization. Yung 2025

**[03:11:04.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001634)  
na lang po ang ating kunin.

**[03:11:18.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001635)  
...

**[03:11:42.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001636)  
Ah, Madam Speaker,

**[03:11:44.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001637)  
sa tanong po,

**[03:11:46.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001638)  
itong ilang

**[03:11:48.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001639)  
ahensya ng goberno

**[03:11:50.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001640)  
na merong intelligence

**[03:11:52.460] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001641)  
fund?

**[03:11:54.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001642)  
At saka

**[03:11:55.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001643)  
ilang ahensya

**[03:11:58.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001644)  
ng goberno na merong confidential

**[03:12:00.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001645)  
fund?

**[03:12:02.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001646)  
Okay.

**[03:12:04.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001647)  
Ito po yung sagot

**[03:12:06.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001648)  
as to numbers.

**[03:12:07.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001649)  
Yung merong intelligence fund,

**[03:12:11.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001650)  
meron po tayong

**[03:12:12.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001651)  
38,

**[03:12:13.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001652)  
38,

**[03:12:14.980] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001653)  
38

**[03:12:15.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001654)  
national agencies.

**[03:12:20.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001655)  
Yung

**[03:12:20.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001656)  
25 pala, 25.

**[03:12:27.400] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001657)  
25, no?

**[03:12:29.460] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001658)  
Ito, 25 pala.

**[03:12:30.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001659)  
Ito,

**[03:12:31.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001660)  
25, [unclear],

**[03:12:34.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001661)  
na ahensya ng national government

**[03:12:37.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001662)  
na merong intel fund.

**[03:12:40.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001663)  
Yung namang

**[03:12:41.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001664)  
confidential fund

**[03:12:43.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001665)  
or confi fund,

**[03:12:44.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001666)  
merong

**[03:12:45.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001667)  
19

**[03:12:46.480] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001668)  
ahensya ng goberno.

**[03:12:51.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001669)  
At saka,

**[03:12:53.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001670)  
meron dito,

**[03:12:54.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001671)  
merong intel fund

**[03:12:56.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001672)  
and confi fund.

**[03:12:59.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001673)  
Tatlong ahensya.

**[03:13:02.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001674)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[03:13:05.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001675)  
At ihingin po natin yung listahan

**[03:13:07.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001676)  
ng mga

**[03:13:08.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001677)  
agencies na ito.

**[03:13:10.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001678)  
Ngayon, mula po 2024,

**[03:13:12.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001679)  
na

**[03:13:13.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001680)  
nabusitin

**[03:13:15.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001681)  
na rin po

**[03:13:15.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001682)  
ng taong bayan

**[03:13:16.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001683)  
yung tukol sa pagkakaroon

**[03:13:18.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001684)  
ng confidential funds

**[03:13:19.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001685)  
at intelligence funds.

**[03:13:21.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001686)  
Lalong-lalo na

**[03:13:22.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001687)  
ng mga civilian agencies

**[03:13:23.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001688)  
na wala namang kinalaman

**[03:13:24.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001689)  
sa law enforcement,

**[03:13:26.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001690)  
investigation,

**[03:13:27.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001691)  
at national security.

**[03:13:28.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001692)  
Sa ngayon po ba,

**[03:13:29.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001693)  
may review na

**[03:13:30.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001694)  
na ginagawa ang COA

**[03:13:32.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001695)  
kung paano titiyakin

**[03:13:33.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001696)  
na

**[03:13:34.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001697)  
magagamit

**[03:13:36.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001698)  
ng maayos

**[03:13:37.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001699)  
itong CIF

**[03:13:38.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001700)  
at yung proposals

**[03:13:39.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001701)  
mula rin po

**[03:13:40.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001702)  
sa representasyon na ito

**[03:13:42.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001703)  
at maraming boses.

**[03:13:44.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001704)  
Hindi lang po dito

**[03:13:45.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001705)  
sa House of Representatives

**[03:13:46.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001706)  
pero sa ating civil society

**[03:13:49.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001707)  
ang nananawagan

**[03:13:50.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001708)  
na dapat huwag

**[03:13:51.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001709)  
ng payagan

**[03:13:51.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001710)  
ang mga civilian

**[03:13:53.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001711)  
agencies

**[03:13:54.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001712)  
na gumamit

**[03:13:55.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001713)  
ng CIF

**[03:13:56.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001714)  
dahil nga

**[03:13:57.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001715)  
napakalimitado lang

**[03:13:58.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001716)  
ng

**[03:13:59.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001717)  
transparency mechanism

**[03:14:00.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001718)  
at

**[03:14:01.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001719)  
very limited po

**[03:14:03.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001720)  
yung

**[03:14:04.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001721)  
yung pagtitiyak

**[03:14:06.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001722)  
na yung taong bayan mismo

**[03:14:08.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001723)  
makapagbabantay

**[03:14:09.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001724)  
ng mga pondong ito

**[03:14:10.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001725)  
dahil sa kanyang

**[03:14:11.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001726)  
nature.

**[03:14:14.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001727)  
Mayroon na pong

**[03:14:17.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001728)  
speaker

**[03:14:19.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001729)  
ang ginawang

**[03:14:20.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001730)  
pag-aaral

**[03:14:22.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001731)  
or

**[03:14:23.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001732)  
mungkahi

**[03:14:24.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001733)  
ang

**[03:14:25.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001734)  
COA

**[03:14:26.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001735)  
together with

**[03:14:29.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001736)  
[unclear]

**[03:14:31.040] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001737)  
Department of National Defense

**[03:14:33.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001738)  
DILG

**[03:14:34.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001739)  
and

**[03:14:34.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001740)  
Government

**[03:14:35.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001741)  
Corporate

**[03:14:36.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001742)  
[unclear]

**[03:14:38.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001743)  
so

**[03:14:39.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001744)  
ito po

**[03:14:41.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001745)  
ay

**[03:14:44.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001747)  
baguhin

**[03:14:44.800] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001748)  
revised

**[03:14:45.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001749)  
the use

**[03:14:47.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001750)  
of

**[03:14:48.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001751)  
confidential

**[03:14:49.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001752)  
and intelligence

**[03:14:50.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001753)  
funds.

**[03:14:52.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001754)  
Mayroon na po

**[03:14:54.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001755)  
yun po ang

**[03:14:55.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001756)  
mga

**[03:14:56.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001757)  
observation

**[03:14:57.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001758)  
na ginagawa

**[03:14:59.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001759)  
or

**[03:15:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001782)  
Mga effort ng COA ngayon na baguhin ang guidelines sa paggamit ng confidential and intelligence funds.

**[03:15:10.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001783)  
Mr. Speaker, kailan po ilalabas itong revised guidelines on the use of Confidential and Intelligence Funds?

**[03:15:17.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001784)  
At ano po yung mga mayor na pagbabago sa mga guidelines na ito?

**[03:15:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001785)  
So, sa ngayon po, because it involves a lot of agencies, tinatrabaho na po.

**[03:15:41.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001786)  
Ang ginagawa ng ano, ito yung mga observation na dapat baguhin.

**[03:15:47.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001787)  
Yung use of aliases or code names.

**[03:15:52.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001788)  
Yung tungkol sa evidence of success, yung mga rewards.

**[03:15:58.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001789)  
Tungkol sa mga allowed experiences.

**[03:16:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001790)  
At saka yung hanggang saan ang clearance ng auditor.

**[03:16:07.480] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001791)  
Security clearance ng mga auditor.

**[03:16:11.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001792)  
At saka yung paggamit ng mga generic acknowledgement receipts.

**[03:16:16.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001793)  
So, ito po ang mga pagbabago na ginagawa ngayon.

**[03:16:21.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001794)  
Working progress po ito.

**[03:16:22.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001795)  
As to when, I think, within the soonest possible time.

**[03:16:27.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001796)  
Hindi pa maibigay ng COA kung kailan matapos.

**[03:16:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001797)  
But there are now efforts to really revise that 2015 Memorandum Circular.

**[03:16:39.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001798)  
Mr. Speaker, bakit hindi po kasama dito yung pagbabawal?

**[03:16:44.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001799)  
Ay may kinalaman sa National Security Law Enforcement and Investigation.

**[03:16:50.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001800)  
Hindi po ba panahon na para malinaw na may prohibition sa paggamit ng confidential funds,

**[03:16:57.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001801)  
ng intelligence funds, ang mga civilian agents?

**[03:17:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001802)  
Mr. Speaker, it is Congress, tayo po mismo,

**[03:17:10.560] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001803)  
ang naggawa ng mga guidelines through our GAA for what we call the Provisional Conditions.

**[03:17:21.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001804)  
Tayo mismo, sino yung dapat bigyan at hindi bigyan.

**[03:17:28.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001805)  
So,

**[03:17:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001806)  
that is yung ginagawa natin.

**[03:17:34.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001807)  
Yan ang ginagawa natin.

**[03:17:35.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001808)  
Tayo mismo ang nag-identify sinong bigyan at saka hindi bigyan.

**[03:17:42.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001809)  
So...

**[03:17:43.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001810)  
Mr. Speaker, kung magbibigay po ng rekomendasyon ang COA,

**[03:17:48.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001811)  
what would you recommend with regard to the use of confidential and intelligence funds by civilian agencies?

**[03:18:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001812)  
Ito po yung mga dapat na mangyari.

**[03:18:14.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001813)  
Yung observation ng COA, yun na, ang paggamit ng resibo, very generic.

**[03:18:27.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001814)  
Yung paggamit ng mga aliases.

**[03:18:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001815)  
Or code names, no?

**[03:18:32.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001816)  
At saka yung rewards, no?

**[03:18:35.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001817)  
Ano bang dapat bigyan ng rewards?

**[03:18:37.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001818)  
Dahil ba success?

**[03:18:38.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001819)  
Ano yung evidence of success, no?

**[03:18:41.400] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001820)  
At saka yung allowed expenses.

**[03:18:43.360] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001821)  
Ano ba yung mga dapat na expenses na allowed, no?

**[03:18:48.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001822)  
Or hindi, allowed.

**[03:18:49.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001823)  
So, yun po ang mga minamungkahi ng COA, no?

**[03:18:52.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001824)  
Regards this Confi and Intelligence Fund.

**[03:18:57.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001825)  
Yung IDUS naman,

**[03:19:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001826)  
ang LGUs, no?

**[03:19:04.380] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001827)  
Meron rito mga intelligence and confidential funds, no?

**[03:19:12.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001828)  
So,

**[03:19:14.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001829)  
minamungkahi po ng COA, ang DILG,

**[03:19:18.400] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001830)  
na maggawa din sila ng sarili nilang guidelines, no?

**[03:19:22.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001831)  
Paano gamitin, no?

**[03:19:24.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001832)  
Although, meron joint circular,

**[03:19:26.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001833)  
pero,

**[03:19:27.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001834)  
so, hopefully, no?

**[03:19:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001835)  
Hopefully, soon, nalabas na yung bagong revised guidelines.

**[03:19:34.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001836)  
Para naman, to answer or respond to the call of the people,

**[03:19:41.040] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001837)  
yung paggamit ng mga intel and confi funds.

**[03:19:45.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001838)  
Mr. Speaker, wala bang maibibigay sa atin na espesipiko na petsa, na buwan,

**[03:19:53.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001839)  
kung kailan po natin mapagtitibay at mapapalakas ang mga guidelines na ito?

**[03:19:58.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001840)  
Mahalaga po ito.

**[03:20:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001841)  
Dahil ngayon pa lang,

**[03:20:01.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001842)  
meron na sa ating mga general provisions

**[03:20:03.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001843)  
ang tungkol sa paggamit ng confidential and intelligence funds.

**[03:20:07.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001844)  
At nararapat lang na yung mga rekomendasyon sa pagpapalakas nito

**[03:20:12.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001845)  
ay mailabas na agad ng COA at ang ibang mga agencies,

**[03:20:17.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001846)  
mga departamento,

**[03:20:19.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001847)  
na kabilang sa pagpapalakas nito.

**[03:20:26.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001848)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:20:27.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001849)  
as to when,

**[03:20:29.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001850)  
kung kailan lalabas ito,

**[03:20:33.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001851)  
COA will do its best effort.

**[03:20:37.380] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001852)  
Kung COA lang ang masusunod within the year.

**[03:20:43.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001853)  
Pero ang problema,

**[03:20:45.460] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001854)  
meron pang ibang ahensya.

**[03:20:47.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001855)  
Enter agencies coordination,

**[03:20:50.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001856)  
lalo ng DBM.

**[03:20:53.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001857)  
Tagal, daming daanan.

**[03:20:55.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001858)  
So,

**[03:20:56.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001859)  
siguro remotely,

**[03:20:59.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001860)  
sa mga first semester of next year hanggang June of next year,

**[03:21:04.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001861)  
may lalabas ng bagong guidelines sa paggamit ng CONFIE and Intel Fund.

**[03:21:13.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001862)  
Mr. Speaker, nakita na rin natin sa mga deliberasyon dito sa Kongreso

**[03:21:17.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001863)  
kung paano pong napakahirap i-audit nitong confidential and intelligence funds

**[03:21:22.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001864)  
dahil nga sa nature nito.

**[03:21:23.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001865)  
Na kaya kung pwede pa natin mas ma-restrict,

**[03:21:26.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001866)  
no,

**[03:21:27.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001867)  
ma-linaw.

**[03:21:28.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001868)  
Halimbawa,

**[03:21:28.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001869)  
na lang

**[03:21:29.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001870)  
ang matagal nang mungkahi na huwag nang payagan ang mga civilian agencies

**[03:21:33.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001871)  
na gumamit ng ganitong tipo ng mga pondo.

**[03:21:36.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001872)  
Dahil lahat naman ang nasa mandato nila,

**[03:21:38.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001873)  
pwede nilang gawin.

**[03:21:39.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001874)  
No?

**[03:21:39.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001875)  
Nang may transparency,

**[03:21:41.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001876)  
may accountability,

**[03:21:42.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001877)  
nang hindi gumagamit ng ni-piso ng confidential and intelligence funds.

**[03:21:47.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001878)  
Kaya po, sa

**[03:21:49.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001879)  
ang tamang panahon dito sa plenaryo,

**[03:21:51.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001880)  
tayo po ay mag-

**[03:21:54.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001881)  
mananawagan

**[03:21:55.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001882)  
ng malakas,

**[03:21:56.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001883)  
natanggalin po yung pagpayag,

**[03:21:58.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001884)  
sa paggamit ng civilian government agencies ng confidential and intelligence funds

**[03:22:03.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001885)  
na nakapaloob mismo sa ating panukala para sa susunod na taon sa Fiscal Year 2027,

**[03:22:10.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001886)  
nakalagay po sa ating Seksyon 92,

**[03:22:14.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001887)  
nakalagay po dito na pinapayagan gumamit ang civilian government agencies ng confidential funds.

**[03:22:21.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001888)  
Naninindigan po ang representasyon na ito na dapat na itong maibasura,

**[03:22:25.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001889)  
dapat na itong matanggal sa mga pinapayagan natin.

**[03:22:28.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001890)  
Para sa interes

**[03:22:31.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001891)  
ng mas mahigpit ng mga mekanismo para sa pananagutan.

**[03:22:34.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001892)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:22:36.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001893)  
Maraming salamat, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[03:22:38.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001894)  
Thank you.

**[03:22:39.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001895)  
Rep. Sarah Jain, salamat.

**[03:22:43.720] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001896)  
Maraming salamat,

**[03:22:45.320] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001897)  
Kong Elago.

**[03:22:47.580] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001898)  
Kabataan Party-list.

**[03:22:49.580] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001899)  
Majority Leader, please.

**[03:22:57.260] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001900)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[03:22:58.920] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001901)  
the Honorable

**[03:23:00.100] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001902)  
Tino of the

**[03:23:03.220] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001903)  
ACT Teachers

**[03:23:04.640] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001904)  
Party-list to interpellate

**[03:23:07.220] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-001905)  
on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[03:23:09.880] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001906)  
Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[03:23:12.120] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001907)  
Congressperson

**[03:23:13.040] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001908)  
Tino

**[03:23:15.020] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001909)  
of ACT Teachers Partylist,

**[03:23:18.660] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001910)  
sir, you're

**[03:23:19.160] Deputy Speaker Raymond Democrito C. Mendoza** (asr-001911)  
recognized.

**[03:23:26.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001912)  
Thank you,

**[03:23:27.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001913)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[03:23:28.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001914)  
Well, Mr. Speaker, for

**[03:23:30.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001915)  
2027, the

**[03:23:33.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001916)  
proposed budget

**[03:23:34.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001917)  
of COA is

**[03:23:37.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001918)  
14.7 billion pesos.

**[03:23:41.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001919)  
Well, ang tanong ko po

**[03:23:43.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001920)  
ay mas

**[03:23:45.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001921)  
yung kalagayan

**[03:23:47.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001922)  
ng COA ngayon,

**[03:23:49.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001923)  
particularly

**[03:23:52.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001924)  
with regard

**[03:23:54.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001925)  
to one of its three

**[03:23:57.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001926)  
commissioners.

**[03:23:58.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001927)  
So, alam po natin,

**[03:24:02.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001928)  
ayon sa

**[03:24:02.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001929)  
Constitution at Batas, tatlo ang

**[03:24:05.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001930)  
mga commissioner

**[03:24:06.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001931)  
ng COA.

**[03:24:09.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001932)  
Of course, nandyan po ngayon

**[03:24:10.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001933)  
ang kanilang chairperson,

**[03:24:13.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001934)  
si Chairperson Gamaliel Cordoba.

**[03:24:16.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001935)  
At,

**[03:24:16.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001936)  
hindi ko alam kung nandyan din

**[03:24:18.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001937)  
ang kanilang, isa pang

**[03:24:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001938)  
commissioner, si Commissioner Douglas

**[03:24:22.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001939)  
Malilin. Ayun,

**[03:24:24.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001940)  
ayun po po la si Commissioner.

**[03:24:27.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001941)  
Pero, ang pangatlo nyo,

**[03:24:28.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001942)  
yun po ang gusto natin

**[03:24:30.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001943)  
kumustahin. Ito po, of

**[03:24:32.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001944)  
course, none other than

**[03:24:34.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001945)  
Commissioner Mario

**[03:24:36.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001946)  
Gonzales Lipana,

**[03:24:38.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001947)  
whose term

**[03:24:39.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001948)  
is set

**[03:24:43.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001949)  
to expire

**[03:24:44.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001950)  
on the 2nd of February

**[03:24:46.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001951)  
2027. Tama po ba?

**[03:24:50.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001952)  
Tama po ba yun? Mag-e-expire na yung term

**[03:24:52.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001953)  
nung pangatlong

**[03:24:54.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001954)  
commissioner na nabanggit ko.

**[03:24:55.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001955)  
So,

**[03:24:55.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001956)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:24:58.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001957)  
Commissioner Lipana,

**[03:25:03.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001958)  
term's expiration

**[03:25:05.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001959)  
is February 2,

**[03:25:07.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-001960)  
2027.

**[03:25:08.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001961)  
Yes. Okay. Well,

**[03:25:11.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001962)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:25:13.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001963)  
last year,

**[03:25:15.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001964)  
na naging

**[03:25:17.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001965)  
subject ng controversy

**[03:25:18.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001966)  
si Commissioner Lipana,

**[03:25:21.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001967)  
especially at the height

**[03:25:23.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001968)  
of the flood control

**[03:25:25.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001969)  
corruption controversy,

**[03:25:26.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001970)  
this year,

**[03:25:27.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001971)  
dahil

**[03:25:29.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001972)  
lumabas na ang kanyang

**[03:25:33.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001973)  
asawa,

**[03:25:36.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001974)  
Marie

**[03:25:36.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001975)  
Marie Lou Lipana,

**[03:25:40.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001976)  
ay

**[03:25:40.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001977)  
ay

**[03:25:44.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001978)  
contractor po.

**[03:25:47.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001979)  
Contractor. Particularly,

**[03:25:50.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001980)  
there is this

**[03:25:51.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001981)  
company known as

**[03:25:53.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001982)  
Olympus Mining and Builders Group,

**[03:25:55.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001983)  
Philippines Corporation,

**[03:25:57.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001984)  
formerly known as

**[03:25:59.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001985)  
Olympus Builders and Mining Corporation,

**[03:26:03.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001986)  
and according to records,

**[03:26:05.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001987)  
since 2022,

**[03:26:08.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001988)  
yan din po yung panahon

**[03:26:11.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001989)  
na unang naupo si Commissioner Lipana,

**[03:26:14.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001990)  
mula 2022 until 2025,

**[03:26:17.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001991)  
ay nakakuha po ito ng

**[03:26:20.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001992)  
27 public infrastructure projects worth,

**[03:26:27.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001995)  
2.204 billion pesos.

**[03:26:33.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001998)  
These include projects,

**[03:26:35.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001999)  
notably,

**[03:26:37.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002000)  
not just for buildings and facilities,

**[03:26:41.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002002)  
but also,

**[03:26:43.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002003)  
a large number of projects

**[03:26:47.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002005)  
for flood control and roads.

**[03:26:49.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002006)  
Almost,

**[03:26:51.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002007)  
halos magkapanta yun sa 2.2 billion,

**[03:26:53.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002008)  
1.01 billion for flood control and roads.

**[03:26:59.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002011)  
1.13 billion for roads.

**[03:27:03.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002013)  
Average cost of contract,

**[03:27:05.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002014)  
81 million.

**[03:27:07.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002015)  
Malalaking kontrata po.

**[03:27:09.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002016)  
At, ang kumpanya pong ito,

**[03:27:13.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002018)  
ang pangunahing mga proyekto

**[03:27:17.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002020)  
ay pangunahing pinatupad

**[03:27:19.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002021)  
sa Bulacan.

**[03:27:21.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002022)  
So,

**[03:27:23.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002023)  
the,

**[03:27:25.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002024)  
particularly,

**[03:27:27.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002025)  
Bulacan 1st District Engineering Office,

**[03:27:29.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002026)  
Bulacan 2nd and Bulacan 3rd,

**[03:27:31.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002027)  
as well as in Region 3,

**[03:27:35.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002029)  
and Metro Manila.

**[03:27:37.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002030)  
So, may mga proyekto din po.

**[03:27:39.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002031)  
Let us of course note,

**[03:27:43.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002033)  
Bulacan 1st District Engineering Office,

**[03:27:45.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002034)  
ayan yung pinanggalingan ni

**[03:27:51.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002037)  
Henry Alcantara.

**[03:27:53.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002038)  
At ngayon involved sa maraming mga ghost projects.

**[03:27:55.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002039)  
Let me also note,

**[03:27:57.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002040)  
that COA

**[03:27:59.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002041)  
last year

**[03:28:01.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002042)  
last year

**[03:28:03.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002043)  
was

**[03:28:05.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002044)  
took it upon or undertook

**[03:28:07.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002045)  
to come out with

**[03:28:09.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002046)  
audit reports.

**[03:28:11.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002047)  
Mabilisan po gumawa ng

**[03:28:13.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002048)  
audit ng mga flood control projects

**[03:28:15.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002049)  
sa Bulacan. At nakakuha po tayo

**[03:28:17.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002050)  
ng kopya ng mga proyektong yun,

**[03:28:19.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002051)  
kinukumpirma nga

**[03:28:21.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002052)  
na

**[03:28:23.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002053)  
maraming mga proyekto,

**[03:28:25.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002054)  
ghost, or

**[03:28:27.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002055)  
with

**[03:28:29.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002056)  
serious issues.

**[03:28:31.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002057)  
Yung mga finlag po ito

**[03:28:33.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002058)  
ng COA. Okay.

**[03:28:35.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002059)  
So, kaya po,

**[03:28:37.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002060)  
since last year,

**[03:28:39.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002061)  
may mga

**[03:28:41.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002062)  
questions

**[03:28:43.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002063)  
regarding the clear conflict of interest.

**[03:28:47.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002065)  
That we have a Commissioner of COA

**[03:28:49.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002066)  
whose

**[03:28:51.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002067)  
um,

**[03:28:53.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002068)  
spouse

**[03:28:55.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002069)  
is known to be a

**[03:28:57.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002070)  
ah, contractor for

**[03:28:59.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002071)  
flood control projects. Kaya matagal na pong

**[03:29:01.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002072)  
ah,

**[03:29:03.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002073)  
may mga panawagan actually na mag-resign

**[03:29:05.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002074)  
si Commissioner

**[03:29:07.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002075)  
Lipana. Para po,

**[03:29:09.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002076)  
hindi madamay ang

**[03:29:11.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002077)  
kredibilidad ng institution,

**[03:29:13.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002078)  
institution

**[03:29:15.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002079)  
ng Commission on Audit. Lalo pa't

**[03:29:17.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002080)  
dapat kalaga ng papel ng COA

**[03:29:19.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002081)  
sa

**[03:29:21.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002082)  
ah, you know, bilang

**[03:29:23.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002083)  
huling

**[03:29:25.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002084)  
line of defense, ika nga,

**[03:29:27.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002085)  
kontra sa corruption.

**[03:29:29.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002086)  
Okay. Ano po,

**[03:29:31.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002087)  
mula nung nakaraang taon,

**[03:29:33.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002088)  
ano po ang status

**[03:29:35.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002089)  
nitong si Commissioner

**[03:29:37.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002090)  
Lipana?

**[03:29:41.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002091)  
Ah,

**[03:29:43.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002092)  
dalawa po yung

**[03:29:45.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002093)  
katanungan kung tama po ako.

**[03:29:47.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002094)  
Una,

**[03:29:49.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002095)  
is about

**[03:29:51.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002096)  
the status of Commissioner Lipana.

**[03:29:53.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002097)  
Ah,

**[03:29:55.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002098)  
ang pangalawa, ah,

**[03:29:57.500] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002099)  
about sa kontrata.

**[03:30:00.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002100)  
ng kanyang asawa

**[03:30:01.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002101)  
sa goberno. Tama po?

**[03:30:03.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002102)  
Yes,

**[03:30:04.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002102-split-2)  
tama po.

**[03:30:06.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002103)  
Sa

**[03:30:06.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002104)  
unang sagot po, sa

**[03:30:09.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002105)  
status po ni Commissioner

**[03:30:11.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002106)  
Lipana,

**[03:30:14.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002107)  
siya po ngayon ay

**[03:30:15.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002108)  
naka

**[03:30:16.860] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002109)  
sick leave, on

**[03:30:19.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002110)  
leave.

**[03:30:21.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002111)  
Dahil po sa

**[03:30:23.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002112)  
karamdaman niya, mayroon po siyang

**[03:30:25.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002113)  
kanser.

**[03:30:27.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002114)  
Yun naman sa

**[03:30:29.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002115)  
kontrata

**[03:30:32.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002116)  
involving

**[03:30:34.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002117)  
asawa niya,

**[03:30:37.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002118)  
mayroon na po

**[03:30:37.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002119)  
ginawang

**[03:30:39.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002120)  
pagsisiyasat

**[03:30:42.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002121)  
ang COA.

**[03:30:44.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002122)  
In fact, mayroon na po ang notice

**[03:30:45.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002123)  
of disallowance

**[03:30:47.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002124)  
sa yung

**[03:30:49.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002125)  
referring to the firm

**[03:30:51.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002126)  
or construction firm of

**[03:30:53.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002127)  
Mrs. Lipana.

**[03:30:56.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002128)  
So, nag-issue po

**[03:30:58.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002129)  
ng notice of disallowance

**[03:30:59.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002130)  
what is the status of the notice

**[03:31:02.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002131)  
of disallowance?

**[03:31:03.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002132)  
Final na po ba yan?

**[03:31:04.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002133)  
Or is it still

**[03:31:05.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002134)  
at what stage? Ano na pong stage

**[03:31:09.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002135)  
nun nung notice of disallowance?

**[03:31:12.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002136)  
At the

**[03:31:13.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002137)  
na-issue na po ba ito

**[03:31:15.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002138)  
ng final na po ba ito

**[03:31:18.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002139)  
sa level ng COA?

**[03:31:22.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002140)  
Ano po ang status?

**[03:31:26.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002141)  
Nung pag-issue po ng notice

**[03:31:27.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002142)  
of disallowance,

**[03:31:28.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002143)  
ngayon,

**[03:31:29.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002144)  
sa ngayon,

**[03:31:30.860] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002145)  
on appeal na po sa

**[03:31:32.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002146)  
Cluster 7.

**[03:31:35.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002147)  
Okay.

**[03:31:40.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002148)  
Cluster 7 is

**[03:31:41.860] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002149)  
director doon,

**[03:31:43.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002150)  
referring to

**[03:31:45.480] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002151)  
public works,

**[03:31:50.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002152)  
transportation,

**[03:31:52.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002153)  
and energy.

**[03:31:53.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002154)  
Kasali po siya sa

**[03:31:54.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002155)  
Cluster 7 na yan,

**[03:31:56.520] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002156)  
yung public works.

**[03:31:58.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002157)  
Okay. So,

**[03:31:59.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002158)  
may na-issue na na-notice

**[03:32:01.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002159)  
pero hindi pa po

**[03:32:03.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002160)  
umaabot sa

**[03:32:04.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002161)  
kumbaga sa en banc mismo,

**[03:32:07.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002162)  
sa komisyon mismo?

**[03:32:09.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002163)  
Wala pa po.

**[03:32:11.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002164)  
Nasa level po pa ng

**[03:32:13.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002165)  
director ng

**[03:32:15.360] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002166)  
Cluster 7.

**[03:32:16.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002167)  
Okay. And,

**[03:32:18.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002168)  
sabi nyo nga, well, ito nga

**[03:32:21.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002169)  
ang problema.

**[03:32:23.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002170)  
Aabot dito sa komisyon, isa sa mga

**[03:32:25.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002171)  
komisyoner ay asawa.

**[03:32:27.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002172)  
Diba?

**[03:32:29.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002173)  
Ang sabi nyo rin,

**[03:32:31.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002174)  
ay on-leave dahil may sakit

**[03:32:33.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002175)  
si Komisyoner Lipana.

**[03:32:36.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002176)  
Actually, last year pa po,

**[03:32:37.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002177)  
during the budget deliberations last year,

**[03:32:40.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002178)  
ay kinukumusta na natin

**[03:32:42.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002179)  
at gusto rin sana nating

**[03:32:44.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002180)  
matanong directly,

**[03:32:46.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002181)  
lalo na at the budget briefing level

**[03:32:48.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002182)  
sa Komisyoner Lipana, pero even at the time

**[03:32:50.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002183)  
sinabi na

**[03:32:51.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002184)  
on sick leave na siya.

**[03:32:54.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002185)  
Last year pa, gano'ng katagal na pong

**[03:32:56.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002186)  
naka-sick leave itong si

**[03:32:58.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002187)  
Komisyoner?

**[03:32:59.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002188)  
Komisyoner Lipana, at hanggang

**[03:33:02.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002189)  
kailan pa po ang kanyang

**[03:33:03.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002190)  
sick leave?

**[03:33:10.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002191)  
Yung pong

**[03:33:11.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002192)  
pag-sick leave ni

**[03:33:13.480] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002193)  
Komisyoner Lipana,

**[03:33:15.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002194)  
halos buwan-buwan po

**[03:33:19.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002195)  
pumupunta siya sana sa labas

**[03:33:21.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002196)  
para mag

**[03:33:22.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002197)  
pa-examine, no, sa kanyang

**[03:33:25.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002198)  
kalagayan, karamdaman.

**[03:33:28.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002199)  
After that,

**[03:33:29.180] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002200)  
balik na naman, report for

**[03:33:31.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002201)  
duty, alis na naman,

**[03:33:33.120] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002202)  
after a month, punta na

**[03:33:35.240] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002203)  
mga Singapore para magpagamot.

**[03:33:38.400] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002204)  
Yun po ang status.

**[03:33:39.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002205)  
On and off yung

**[03:33:40.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002206)  
ano niya.

**[03:33:41.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002206-split-2)  
Ah, on and off po.

**[03:33:42.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002207)  
So, ibig sabihin, nagsisik leave,

**[03:33:45.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002208)  
tapos bumabalik,

**[03:33:47.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002209)  
nagre-report for duty, tapos pag-a-apply na naman

**[03:33:49.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002210)  
for leave. Ganun po ba?

**[03:33:52.980] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002211)  
His condition warrants it,

**[03:33:55.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002212)  
yung karamdaman niya. Kasi,

**[03:33:56.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002213)  
sabi nga,

**[03:33:57.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002214)  
pa-terminal na yung

**[03:33:59.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002215)  
terminal cancer,

**[03:34:01.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002216)  
final stage of cancer.

**[03:34:02.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002217)  
Yes, naintindihan po natin.

**[03:34:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002218)  
So, ang clarification nyo po,

**[03:34:07.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002219)  
hindi continuous yung kanyang

**[03:34:09.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002220)  
sick leave.

**[03:34:11.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002221)  
Kung hindi periodically

**[03:34:12.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002222)  
renewed

**[03:34:17.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002223)  
or applied for, parang

**[03:34:19.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002224)  
ganun. Tama po ba?

**[03:34:21.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002225)  
Yes po.

**[03:34:21.730] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002225-split-2)  
Cumulatively,

**[03:34:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002226)  
pwede po bang masabi

**[03:34:25.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002227)  
ng commission,

**[03:34:27.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002228)  
through the sponsor,

**[03:34:29.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002229)  
gaano katagal na pong naka-sick leave

**[03:34:31.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002230)  
mula, kahit, mula,

**[03:34:33.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002231)  
mula, mula, simula. Kailan siya

**[03:34:35.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002232)  
nagsimulang mag-sick leave?

**[03:34:38.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002233)  
Hanggang

**[03:34:38.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002234)  
sa kasalukuyang panahon.

**[03:34:44.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002235)  
For the record po.

**[03:35:27.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002266)  
Mr. Speaker, iyong katanungan po kung cumulatively, ang nangyari po ay buwan-buwan, every month, nag-apply siya ng tatlong araw na leave.

**[03:35:44.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002267)  
So, saka balik na naman, trabaho. To be exact, magbigay na lang po kami ng data. Ilan na talaga, ilang buwan na yung ano niya, since 2025 up to the present.

**[03:36:05.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002268)  
Okay, please. So, in writing po, kung pwede, para lang malaman natin. So, hindi naman pala continuous ito.

**[03:36:13.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002269)  
And just to clarify, yung mga commissioner po ba ng COA, are they covered by the same guidelines on sick leave as other employees of government?

**[03:36:26.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002270)  
Di ba, may mga limitasyon lang yan, di ba? Hindi only ang sick leave, tama po ba? Okay. So, hindi po.

**[03:36:35.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002271)  
Cover lang po lahat, pareha lang po ang…

**[03:36:37.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002272)  
Pareho lang sa mga empleyado, therefore, may hangganan din po, no?

**[03:36:41.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002273)  
Yes.

**[03:36:42.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002274)  
Okay.

**[03:36:43.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002275)  
Sige, intayin na lang po natin. Pero ito na po ang tanong. Ibig po sabihin, panapanahon lang. So, tuloy pa rin po, for the most part, the COA can say na nagagampanan pa rin ni Commissioner Lipana ang kanyang tungkulin.

**[03:37:03.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002276)  
Is he still able to discharge his duties as COA Commissioner despite his health condition?

**[03:37:13.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002277)  
That requires him to avail of sick leave periodically, every month, apparently. Nagagampanan pa rin po ba niya, ang kanyang mga tungkulin bilang Commissioner?

**[03:37:27.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002278)  
Nagagampanan po naman ni Commissioner Lipana yung trabaho niya.

**[03:37:31.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002279)  
Nagagampanan po. So, in other words, the Commission en banc, yung tatlong miyembro, ay fully functioning.

**[03:37:40.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002280)  
Ibig sabihin, kung nangangailangan ng…

**[03:37:43.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002281)  
Decision, no? Merong mga resolution o merong mga kaso. Halimbawa, itong Notice of Disallowance, ay available po yung tatlong Commissioner at yung tatlong nagpapasya. Ganun pa rin po?

**[03:38:00.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002282)  
Kahit po wala si Commissioner Lipana, ang Commission itself, nagagampanan namin nila yung remaining dalawang Commissioner, they are still doing their… they can do their job.

**[03:38:13.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002283)  
Even without Commissioner Lipana.

**[03:38:14.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002284)  
Okay, they can do their jobs. I have no doubt, they can do their jobs. Pero ang tanong ko lang po, hindi po ba may mga pagkakataon na kailangan yung buong Commission? O sapat na yung dalawa?

**[03:38:26.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002285)  
Paano halimbawa, kung merong opinion na magkaiba yung dalawa, how will that be settled? Wala bang ganun?

**[03:38:37.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002286)  
So far naman po, sapat na po yung…

**[03:38:43.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002287)  
Dalawa. So far, no? Wala naman silang mga pagtunggali between their opinions.

**[03:38:49.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002288)  
Okay, so far wala. And para malinawan lang po, pwede po ba mag-issue ng mga resolution, decision, and so on, ang en banc na dalawa lang sa tatlo ang nakapirma? Pwede na yun?

**[03:39:04.380] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002289)  
Pwede po.

**[03:39:05.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002290)  
Pwede? Dahil ang requirement, basta majority, ganun po ba?

**[03:39:10.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002291)  
Majority po.

**[03:39:11.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002292)  
Ah, okay. Alright.

**[03:39:13.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002293)  
So, ngayon, kung sakaling umabot po sa, sabi nyo, merong notice of disallowance involving the wife of Commissioner Lipana na nasa lower level pa, no?

**[03:39:28.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002294)  
Cluster 7 po. Cluster 7.

**[03:39:30.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002295)  
Cluster 7. Eventually, tama po, aabot yan sa en banc. Tama po ba?

**[03:39:36.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002296)  
Ano po mangyayari?

**[03:39:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002297)  
Will the Commissioner Lipana be involved in…

**[03:39:43.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002298)  
Be decision-making on that resolution?

**[03:39:49.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002299)  
Kung aabot sa Commission en banc level, mag-inhibit si Commissioner Lipana.

**[03:40:01.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002300)  
Okay. Okay, Mr. Speaker, yun po ang pangunahing concern natin.

**[03:40:10.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002301)  
Marami pong mga…

**[03:40:13.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002302)  
Nakatutok sa Commission on Appointments ngayon at ang pagtingin nga ay may cloud.

**[03:40:22.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002303)  
Merong question sa credibility ng Commission dahil ang isa sa kanilang, isa sa tatlong Commissioner ay, yun nga, asawa ng isang contractor na sabi na rin ng COA na issuean pa ng notice of disallowance

**[03:40:40.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002304)  
kaugnay sa flood control or DPWH contracts, no?

**[03:40:46.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002305)  
So, kaya po, sinikap nating linawin ano ba talaga ang status nitong si Commissioner Lipana at ngayon malinaw na nagpapatuloy pa rin siya sa kanyang panunungkulan panapanahong nag-a-avail ng sick leave at, well,

**[03:41:10.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002306)  
merong pahayag dito na kung sakaling may conflict of interest, magkakaroon ng conflict of interest, mag-inhibit ang Commissioner.

**[03:41:19.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002307)  
Hanggang doon na lang po siguro muna, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat po, ginuong sponsor.

**[03:41:25.620] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002308)  
Thank you, Representative. Salamat po.

**[03:41:29.980] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002309)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader.

**[03:41:34.700] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-002311)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Percy Zendanya of the Akbayan Partylist to

**[03:41:40.380] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-002312)  
interpellate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[03:41:43.300] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002313)  
The Honorable Zendanya is recognized. Please proceed.

**[03:41:46.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-002314)  
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and good afternoon to the COA family.

**[03:41:50.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-002315)  
I will not be propounding questions as I have exhaustively discussed the points that I need to share regarding the budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[03:41:57.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-002316)  
I'd just like to reiterate my extreme concern on the lowering of the budget on capital outlay for the COA as this is a critical part in their efforts to digitize and to

**[03:42:10.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-002318)  
computerize the systems within this critical government agency. And I hope that at a certain point, we'll be able to restore the necessary capital outlay for the COA.

**[03:42:21.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-002319)  
There being no member of the minority that wishes to interpolate the Commission on Audit's budget, I move to terminate consideration of the same.

**[03:42:29.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-002320)  
I so move, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:42:31.380] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002321)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader.

**[03:42:34.520] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-002322)  
Thank you.

**[03:42:35.860] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-002324)  
Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period

**[03:42:40.380] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-002325)  
of interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit.

**[03:42:44.060] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002326)  
There is a joint motion to terminate the interpolations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Audit. Is there any objections?

**[03:42:51.560] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002327)  
The Chair hears none. The interpolations on the proposed budget on the Commission on Audit is terminated.

**[03:42:59.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002328)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:43:02.120] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002329)  
Thank you very much.

**[03:43:05.480] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002330)  
Majority Leader.

**[03:43:06.640] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002331)  
Motion to suspend.

**[03:43:08.240] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002332)  
Session suspended.

**[03:44:58.160] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002346)  
Session resumed. Majority Leader.

**[03:45:00.600] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002347)  
Mr. Speaker, I move

**[03:45:02.100] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002348)  
to consider the proposed budget

**[03:45:03.920] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002349)  
of the Commission on Elections.

**[03:45:06.340] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002350)  
Any objection? The Chair hears none.

**[03:45:08.440] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002351)  
Motion is approved.

**[03:45:09.920] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002352)  
Majority Leader.

**[03:45:11.980] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002353)  
Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge

**[03:45:14.220] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002354)  
the presence of the heads and officials

**[03:45:16.360] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002355)  
of the Commission on Elections.

**[03:45:18.420] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002356)  
They are Chairperson

**[03:45:20.400] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002357)  
George Irwin

**[03:45:22.660] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002358)  
Garcia, Commissioner

**[03:45:24.100] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002359)  
Ernesto Maceda Jr.,

**[03:45:26.680] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002360)  
Commissioner Nelson Celis,

**[03:45:28.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002361)  
Commissioner Maria

**[03:45:30.100] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002362)  
Norina Tangaro

**[03:45:32.000] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002363)  
Casingal, and Executive Director

**[03:45:34.480] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002364)  
Teopisto

**[03:45:35.660] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002365)  
Elnas Jr.

**[03:45:38.040] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002366)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads and

**[03:45:40.200] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002367)  
officials of the Commission on Elections, headed

**[03:45:42.240] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002368)  
by Chairperson George Irwin

**[03:45:44.300] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002369)  
Garcia. Welcome to the House of

**[03:45:46.320] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002370)  
Representatives. Majority

**[03:45:48.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002371)  
Leader.

**[03:45:49.400] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002371-split-2)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:45:50.900] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002372)  
I move to recognize

**[03:45:52.220] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002373)  
Representative Mike Tan of the

**[03:45:54.360] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002374)  
4th District of Quezon,

**[03:45:56.240] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002375)  
Vice Chairperson of the Committee on

**[03:45:58.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002376)  
Appropriations, to answer questions

**[03:46:00.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002377)  
on the proposed budget of the Commission

**[03:46:02.380] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002378)  
on Elections.

**[03:46:03.560] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002378-split-2)  
Representative Mike

**[03:46:04.380] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002379)  
Tan is recognized. Please proceed.

**[03:46:07.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002380)  
Thank you,

**[03:46:08.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002381)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[03:46:09.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002382)  
Magandang tanghali na po sa ating lahat.

**[03:46:12.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002383)  
Distinguished colleagues, it is my privilege

**[03:46:14.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002384)  
to sponsor the proposed fiscal

**[03:46:16.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002385)  
year 2027 budget

**[03:46:18.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002386)  
of the Commission on Elections.

**[03:46:20.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002387)  
A constitutional commission entrusted

**[03:46:22.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002388)  
with the vital responsibility

**[03:46:24.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002389)  
of safeguarding

**[03:46:26.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002390)  
the integrity of our electoral process.

**[03:46:28.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002391)  
And ensuring the orderly,

**[03:46:30.640] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002392)  
credible, and efficient conduct

**[03:46:32.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002393)  
of elections. For fiscal

**[03:46:34.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002394)  
year 2027, the Commission is proposing

**[03:46:36.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002395)  
a total budget of

**[03:46:37.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002396)  
29.5 billion pesos,

**[03:46:40.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002397)  
inclusive of automatic

**[03:46:42.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002398)  
appropriations.

**[03:46:44.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002399)  
It represents an increase of

**[03:46:45.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002400)  
9.31 billion pesos,

**[03:46:48.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002401)  
or 46 percent, from the

**[03:46:50.540] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002402)  
fiscal year 2026

**[03:46:52.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002403)  
GAA of 20.2

**[03:46:54.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002404)  
billion pesos.

**[03:46:55.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002405)  
This increase reflects

**[03:46:57.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002406)  
the need to strengthen,

**[03:46:58.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002407)  
the Commission's operational capacity

**[03:47:00.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002408)  
as it undertakes

**[03:47:01.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002409)  
preparations for the upcoming

**[03:47:04.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002410)  
2028 national and local elections.

**[03:47:07.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002411)  
Of the proposed

**[03:47:08.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002412)  
allocation, 23.92 billion pesos

**[03:47:10.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002413)  
is earmarked for preparatory

**[03:47:12.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002414)  
national and local elections activities,

**[03:47:15.220] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002415)  
allowing Comelec to

**[03:47:16.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002416)  
undertake procurement, systems preparation,

**[03:47:19.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002417)  
voter-related activities,

**[03:47:20.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002418)  
and other essential requirements

**[03:47:22.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002419)  
well ahead of the 2028 elections.

**[03:47:24.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002420)  
As we deliberate on this

**[03:47:26.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002421)  
budget, we must ensure that these resources,

**[03:47:28.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002422)  
are utilized efficiently,

**[03:47:30.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002423)  
transparently, and in accordance

**[03:47:32.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002424)  
with the Commission's constitutional

**[03:47:34.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002425)  
mandate and applicable laws.

**[03:47:36.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002426)  
With this, I respectfully

**[03:47:38.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002427)  
present the proposed

**[03:47:40.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002428)  
fiscal year 2027 budget

**[03:47:42.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002429)  
of the Commission on Elections

**[03:47:44.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002430)  
for the consideration of this honorable

**[03:47:46.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002431)  
Chamber. Thank you, Mr.

**[03:47:48.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002432)  
Speaker. This representation is

**[03:47:50.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002433)  
now ready to answer questions from our colleagues.

**[03:47:53.120] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002434)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader?

**[03:47:54.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002435)  
Mr. Speaker, I move

**[03:47:56.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002436)  
to recognize Representative

**[03:47:58.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002437)  
Edgar R. Erice

**[03:48:00.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002438)  
of the 2nd District of Caloocan

**[03:48:02.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002439)  
City to interpolate the sponsor

**[03:48:04.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-002440)  
in the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections.

**[03:48:06.440] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002441)  
Representative Edgar

**[03:48:08.440] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002442)  
Erice is recognized. Please proceed.

**[03:48:10.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002443)  
Salamat po, Mr. Speaker. Salamat

**[03:48:12.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002444)  
sa ating Majority Leader

**[03:48:14.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002445)  
at gayon po sa ating

**[03:48:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002446)  
sponsor.

**[03:48:18.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002447)  
Gandang hapon po.

**[03:48:22.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002448)  
Una po ay aking

**[03:48:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002449)  
binabati ang Commission on Elections

**[03:48:26.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002450)  
sa napakamatiwasay,

**[03:48:28.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002451)  
maayos na halalan

**[03:48:30.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002452)  
sa BARMM nitong

**[03:48:32.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002453)  
nakaraang

**[03:48:34.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002454)  
linggo.

**[03:48:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002455)  
At nais ko po sanang itanong

**[03:48:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002456)  
kung meron na po silang

**[03:48:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002457)  
idea anong variance

**[03:48:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002458)  
in terms of accuracy

**[03:48:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002459)  
ng mga ginamit nilang

**[03:48:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002460)  
voting machines

**[03:48:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002461)  
at kaninong

**[03:48:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002462)  
voting machines yung nagamit

**[03:48:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002463)  
po doon.

**[03:48:59.270] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002464)  
As of now po,

**[03:49:00.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002465)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[03:49:02.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002466)  
ongoing po yung random manual

**[03:49:04.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002467)  
audit, but as per information po,

**[03:49:06.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002468)  
yung atin pong variance

**[03:49:08.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002469)  
is at 0% pa rin po.

**[03:49:10.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002470)  
0% ang variance.

**[03:49:12.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002471)  
So ibig sabihin accurate?

**[03:49:14.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002472)  
Accurate po, ah

**[03:49:16.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002473)  
Mr. Speaker and distinguished colleague.

**[03:49:18.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002474)  
Ilang voting machines po ang ginamit

**[03:49:20.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002475)  
para sa BARMM

**[03:49:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002476)  
elections?

**[03:49:30.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002477)  
7,000 machines po

**[03:49:32.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002478)  
ang ginamit po para sa atin pong

**[03:49:34.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002479)  
BARMM elections.

**[03:49:35.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002480)  
At magkano po? Ito po ay lease contract.

**[03:49:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002481)  
Magkano po yung lease contract nito?

**[03:49:58.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002484)  
Amounting to 1.2 billion pesos po,

**[03:50:00.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002485)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[03:50:04.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002487)  
1.2 billion for 7,000 machines,

**[03:50:06.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002488)  
which includes

**[03:50:08.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002489)  
what services po?

**[03:50:18.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002490)  
So it consists of the

**[03:50:20.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002491)  
ballot boxes, yung

**[03:50:22.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002492)  
atin pong CCS, yung

**[03:50:24.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002493)  
consolidation and counting

**[03:50:26.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002494)  
system po ng ating machines,

**[03:50:28.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002495)  
and then yung other

**[03:50:30.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002496)  
peripherals po nung ating

**[03:50:32.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002497)  
mga gagamitin

**[03:50:34.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002498)  
para po sa elections,

**[03:50:36.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002499)  
lalo na po yung mga pens

**[03:50:38.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002500)  
and yung

**[03:50:40.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002501)  
election management

**[03:50:42.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002502)  
system po.

**[03:50:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002503)  
Ito po ay whole package for the provider?

**[03:50:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002504)  
Yun ba? O yung

**[03:50:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002505)  
1.2 billion ba lahat sagot

**[03:50:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002506)  
na nung

**[03:50:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002507)  
systems provider, o may

**[03:50:54.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002508)  
provider

**[03:50:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002509)  
kada service?

**[03:50:58.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002510)  
Yes po,

**[03:51:00.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002511)  
sagot na po ng ating

**[03:51:02.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002512)  
provider lahat, except po

**[03:51:04.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002513)  
yung transmission po ng election.

**[03:51:07.370] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002514)  
And printing of ballots?

**[03:51:10.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002516)  
Ballots rin po,

**[03:51:12.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002517)  
kasama ang printing of ballots.

**[03:51:13.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002518)  
So magkano po yung nagastos for the BARMM elections

**[03:51:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002519)  
plus all of these services?

**[03:51:18.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002520)  
Lahat-lahat po

**[03:51:20.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002521)  
ang nagastos na po

**[03:51:22.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002522)  
para sa atin pong

**[03:51:24.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002523)  
BARMM elections are more or less

**[03:51:26.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002524)  
3 billion pesos po.

**[03:51:28.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002525)  
3 billion?

**[03:51:30.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002526)  
3 billion po para po sa ating BARMM elections.

**[03:51:33.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002527)  
So the Comelec now is in

**[03:51:34.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002528)  
preparation for the

**[03:51:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002529)  
2028 national and local elections.

**[03:51:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002530)  
Tama po?

**[03:51:40.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002531)  
Yes po, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:51:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002532)  
And Comelec is requesting

**[03:51:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002533)  
23 billion for

**[03:51:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002534)  
their budget for the

**[03:51:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002535)  
electoral

**[03:51:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002536)  
voting machines for the 2028

**[03:51:54.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002537)  
elections. Saan po ba nakapaloob

**[03:51:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002538)  
na sa ating 2027

**[03:51:58.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002539)  
National Budget?

**[03:52:00.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002540)  
Ang nire-request

**[03:52:02.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002541)  
po ng ating

**[03:52:04.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002542)  
Commission on Elections para po sa

**[03:52:06.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002543)  
ating mga machines

**[03:52:08.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002544)  
na budget po in preparation of

**[03:52:10.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002545)  
2028 elections are more or less

**[03:52:12.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002546)  
23.1

**[03:52:14.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002547)  
billion po.

**[03:52:16.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002548)  
And this is

**[03:52:18.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002549)  
ang nasa po ngayon

**[03:52:20.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002550)  
ay 21.66

**[03:52:22.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002551)  
billion po.

**[03:52:26.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002552)  
For the election

**[03:52:28.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002553)  
systems provider po,

**[03:52:30.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002554)  
ang nire-request

**[03:52:32.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002555)  
po ng Comelec is

**[03:52:34.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002556)  
23 point something billion, tama po ba?

**[03:52:36.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002557)  
Yes po.

**[03:52:38.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002558)  
Ang proposed po is

**[03:52:40.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002559)  
16 billion, pero ang nasa

**[03:52:42.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002560)  
NEP po ng 2027

**[03:52:44.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002561)  
ay 21.66

**[03:52:46.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002562)  
billion po.

**[03:52:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002563)  
So papaano po sila

**[03:52:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002564)  
makakapagpa-bidding for 2027

**[03:52:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002565)  
kung kulang po ang budget?

**[03:52:54.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002566)  
Actually, yun po yung

**[03:52:56.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002567)  
nire-request po nila na maibigay

**[03:52:58.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002568)  
yung 23.16 billion

**[03:53:00.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002569)  
kasi kukulangan

**[03:53:02.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002570)  
po tayo ng 9,310

**[03:53:04.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002571)  
na machines.

**[03:53:06.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002572)  
Ang magiging

**[03:53:08.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002573)  
resulta po nito ay longer lines,

**[03:53:10.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002574)  
longer queues po sa ating mga

**[03:53:12.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002575)  
precincts.

**[03:53:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002576)  
Naibigay

**[03:53:18.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002577)  
po sa akin yung aking hiniling na

**[03:53:20.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002578)  
mga terms of reference at

**[03:53:22.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002579)  
yung

**[03:53:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002580)  
resolution ng

**[03:53:26.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002581)  
Comelec Advisory Council,

**[03:53:28.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002582)  
subalit ito po ay naibigay lang

**[03:53:30.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002583)  
kanina kaya hindi ko pa po

**[03:53:32.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002584)  
nare-review. Kaya

**[03:53:34.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002585)  
magtatanong po ako ng ilan.

**[03:53:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002586)  
For the 2028 elections po,

**[03:53:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002587)  
ano po ang gagamiting

**[03:53:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002588)  
makina?

**[03:53:42.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002589)  
Wala pa po,

**[03:53:44.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002590)  
Mr. Speaker, subject to bidding

**[03:53:46.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002591)  
and subject to procurement.

**[03:53:48.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002592)  
Terms of reference po ay draft pa

**[03:53:50.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002593)  
hanggang sa ngayon,

**[03:53:52.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002594)  
pina-finalize pa lang rin ng ating

**[03:53:54.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002595)  
Comelec,

**[03:53:56.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002596)  
subject to the

**[03:53:58.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002597)  
recommendations po ng ating

**[03:54:00.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002598)  
Comelec Advisory Council.

**[03:54:02.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002599)  
So ibig pong sabihin wala pang

**[03:54:04.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002600)  
resolution ang Comelec as to

**[03:54:06.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002601)  
the machines that will be used

**[03:54:08.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002602)  
for the 2028 elections. Tama po?

**[03:54:10.970] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002603)  
Wala pa po,

**[03:54:12.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002604)  
Mr. Speaker. Tama po.

**[03:54:13.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002605)  
So still in the process of approval

**[03:54:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002606)  
by the Commission?

**[03:54:18.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002607)  
Yes po, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:54:19.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002608)  
Doon sa draft na terms of

**[03:54:22.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002609)  
reference,

**[03:54:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002610)  
totoo po ba na ang bibili natin ngayon,

**[03:54:26.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002611)  
ang ating gagamitin ngayon

**[03:54:28.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002612)  
o i-lease

**[03:54:30.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002613)  
ay

**[03:54:32.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002614)  
brand new machines? Tama po ba?

**[03:54:34.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002615)  
Yes po,

**[03:54:36.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002616)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:54:38.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002617)  
bago po.

**[03:54:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002618)  
Ito po ba ay

**[03:54:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002619)  
desisyon at rekomendasyon

**[03:54:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002620)  
ng Comelec Advisory Council?

**[03:54:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002621)  
Doon po ba sa ginawa nilang

**[03:54:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002622)  
rekomendasyon kasama po yung term na

**[03:54:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002623)  
brand new?

**[03:55:02.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002625)  
So, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:55:02.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002626)  
lahat po bago

**[03:55:04.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002627)  
yung

**[03:55:06.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002628)  
subject po ng ating

**[03:55:08.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002629)  
gagawing procurement.

**[03:55:10.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002630)  
And this is the recommendation

**[03:55:12.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002631)  
of the Comelec Advisory Council?

**[03:55:14.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002632)  
Wala pong specific

**[03:55:16.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002633)  
na nilagay po para sa

**[03:55:18.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002634)  
Comelec Advisory Council.

**[03:55:20.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002635)  
So it is the decision of whom

**[03:55:22.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002636)  
para po mag-purchase

**[03:55:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002637)  
ng mga bago?

**[03:55:26.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002638)  
It will be the decision of the

**[03:55:28.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002639)  
Commission in accordance with the law.

**[03:55:30.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002640)  
Well, it means that the

**[03:55:32.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002641)  
Comelec Advisory Council

**[03:55:34.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002642)  
did not recommend

**[03:55:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002643)  
or did not comment

**[03:55:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002644)  
on the issue of whether

**[03:55:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002645)  
we can use the

**[03:55:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002646)  
previous machines

**[03:55:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002647)  
that we used in the

**[03:55:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002648)  
2025 election,

**[03:55:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002649)  
machines that we used in the

**[03:55:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002650)  
2025 election, because under RA number

**[03:55:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002651)  
9369,

**[03:55:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002653)  
the CAC is

**[03:55:58.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002654)  
obliged to recommend

**[03:56:00.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002655)  
the most appropriate, secure,

**[03:56:02.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002656)  
applicable and cost-effective

**[03:56:04.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002657)  
technology

**[03:56:06.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002658)  
for the automated elections.

**[03:56:08.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002659)  
Cost-effective.

**[03:56:10.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002660)  
Ito po bang pagbili muli ng bagong

**[03:56:12.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002661)  
machine ay cost-effective?

**[03:56:16.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002662)  
Well,

**[03:56:18.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002663)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:56:20.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002664)  
distinguished colleague,

**[03:56:22.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002665)  
ang rekomendasyon pa rin po is lease

**[03:56:24.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002666)  
of new machines po yung

**[03:56:26.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002667)  
gagawin po ng Commission sapagkat

**[03:56:28.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002668)  
kung

**[03:56:30.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002669)  
bibilhin po natin,

**[03:56:32.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002670)  
mas malaking budget po

**[03:56:34.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002671)  
kailangan po ng ating Commission.

**[03:56:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002672)  
Tama po. Bago ako magpatuloy,

**[03:56:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002673)  
nais kong maging malinaw. Hindi ko

**[03:56:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002674)  
hinihiling na automatikong igawad

**[03:56:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002675)  
sa Miro Systems ang 2028

**[03:56:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002676)  
Automated Election Contract.

**[03:56:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002677)  
Hindi ako kumakampi sa anumang

**[03:56:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002678)  
supplier. Ang hinihingi

**[03:56:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002679)  
ko ay simple at makatwiran:

**[03:56:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002680)  
huwag isara ng Comelec ang

**[03:56:54.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002681)  
pinto sa 110,620

**[03:56:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002682)  
machines

**[03:56:58.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002683)  
na ginamit noong 2025

**[03:57:00.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002684)  
national and local

**[03:57:02.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002685)  
elections bago pa man

**[03:57:04.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002686)  
magkaroon ng independent

**[03:57:06.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002687)  
at financial evaluation.

**[03:57:08.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002688)  
Sa gitna ng fiscal crisis,

**[03:57:10.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002689)  
habang binabawasan ang pondo para

**[03:57:12.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002690)  
sa edukasyon, kalusugan at social

**[03:57:14.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002691)  
services, kailangang patunayan ng

**[03:57:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002692)  
Comelec na ang paggastos ng

**[03:57:18.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002693)  
humigit-kumulang 23 billion

**[03:57:20.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002694)  
para sa brand-new

**[03:57:22.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002695)  
fleet ay

**[03:57:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002696)  
tunay na kinakailangan, hindi lamang

**[03:57:26.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002697)  
dahil iyon ang gusto o mas komportable

**[03:57:28.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002698)  
para sa ahensya.

**[03:57:30.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002699)  
Ang tanong ay hindi kung bago

**[03:57:32.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002700)  
ang makina. Ang dapat na

**[03:57:34.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002701)  
tanong: secure

**[03:57:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002702)  
ba?

**[03:57:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002703)  
Maaasahan ba? Sapat ba ang performance?

**[03:57:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002704)  
At alin ang pinakamabuti para sa bayan?

**[03:57:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002705)  
Dahil kung

**[03:57:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002706)  
puwede naman yung nagamit

**[03:57:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002707)  
natin na may 99.997

**[03:57:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002708)  
percent na

**[03:57:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002709)  
accuracy,

**[03:57:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002710)  
bakit hindi natin puwedeng gamitin?

**[03:57:54.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002711)  
Bakit hindi natin payagan?

**[03:57:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002712)  
Ang ibigay nating

**[03:57:58.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002713)  
parameters hindi brand new.

**[03:58:00.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002714)  
Kasi po pag brand new,

**[03:58:02.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002715)  
tinatanggal mo na yung dati na

**[03:58:04.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002716)  
puwede pa naman.

**[03:58:06.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002717)  
Sabi ninyo nga kanina,

**[03:58:08.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002718)  
1.2 billion lang ang nagastos

**[03:58:10.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002719)  
for 7,000

**[03:58:12.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002720)  
machines. Kung kukuwentahin ninyo yan,

**[03:58:14.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002721)  
we only spend around 15 billion

**[03:58:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002722)  
kung gagamitin natin

**[03:58:18.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002723)  
yung nagamit natin sa BARMM

**[03:58:20.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002724)  
ngayon. Pero kung

**[03:58:22.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002725)  
bago, 23 billion.

**[03:58:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002726)  
8 billion.

**[03:58:26.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002727)  
Bakit hindi po ito tiningnan

**[03:58:28.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002728)  
ng Commission

**[03:58:30.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002729)  
on Elections? Ano po ang dahilan?

**[03:58:32.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002730)  
Bakit brand new? Pangalawa,

**[03:58:34.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002731)  
alam ninyo noong

**[03:58:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002732)  
2025 national elections,

**[03:58:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002733)  
ako po ay nagpetisyon sa Korte Suprema.

**[03:58:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002734)  
Kinuwestiyon ko rin bakit hindi natin

**[03:58:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002735)  
gamitin yung binili

**[03:58:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002736)  
ng

**[03:58:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002737)  
gobyerno

**[03:58:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002738)  
sa Smartmatic.

**[03:58:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002739)  
Sabi nila

**[03:58:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002740)  
hindi na raw puwede, obsolete

**[03:58:54.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002741)  
na raw. Ngayon po ba itong

**[03:58:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002742)  
Miro na ginamit natin

**[03:58:58.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002743)  
na one time pa lang, obsolete na ba ito?

**[03:59:00.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002744)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:59:02.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002745)  
distinguished colleague,

**[03:59:04.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002746)  
hindi naman po obsolete, pero yung

**[03:59:06.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002747)  
kontrata po during that time ng ating

**[03:59:08.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002748)  
2025 elections ay

**[03:59:10.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002749)  
lease contract po talaga ang nasa terms of reference.

**[03:59:12.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002750)  
Hindi po ba natin puwedeng

**[03:59:14.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002751)  
payagan na hindi brand new

**[03:59:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002752)  
ang

**[03:59:18.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002753)  
i-le-lease natin sa 2028

**[03:59:20.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002754)  
elections kung

**[03:59:22.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002755)  
mapapatunayan naman na puwede pa

**[03:59:24.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002756)  
at kasing kalidad ito ng brand new?

**[03:59:27.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002757)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:59:28.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002758)  
puwede pa rin naman po

**[03:59:30.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002759)  
pag-aralan, lalo na po

**[03:59:32.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002760)  
hindi pa po final

**[03:59:34.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002761)  
ang nakasaad sa ating terms of reference.

**[03:59:36.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002762)  
So ibig pong sabihin puwede

**[03:59:38.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002763)  
pang mabago yung terms of reference

**[03:59:40.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002764)  
na ang kukunin nating

**[03:59:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002765)  
sistema ay brand new?

**[03:59:44.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002766)  
Puwede pa pong mabago.

**[03:59:46.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002767)  
Puwede pa pong mabago,

**[03:59:48.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002768)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[03:59:50.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002769)  
At sana kung mababago man o hindi,

**[03:59:52.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002770)  
dapat po may malinaw na batayan

**[03:59:54.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002771)  
ang Commission on Elections.

**[03:59:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002772)  
Hinihiling natin na magbigay sila,

**[03:59:58.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002773)  
kasi po wala pa namang...

**[04:00:00.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002776)  
Wala pa akong nakikita na pag-aaral patungkol po sa kung ano ang requirements ng Commission on Elections

**[04:00:13.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002777)  
para sa gagamiting mga machines for 2028 at hindi po natin tinignan yung possibility na maggamit itong 110,000 machines.

**[04:00:25.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002778)  
Ito po, narito na. Ito po, hindi na ito mamanufacture. Kung kinakailangan, pwede lang i-upgrade.

**[04:00:32.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002779)  
Makakamura tayo dito, akon, tinataya ko, 8 to 10 billion.

**[04:00:38.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002780)  
Ang masasave natin kung gagamitin natin ito, kung mananalo sa biding, kung hindi natin babawalan yung hindi brand new.

**[04:00:49.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002781)  
Dito po, sa draft na terms of reference,

**[04:00:55.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002782)  
pag hindi brand new, hindi na pwede.

**[04:00:57.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002783)  
Yun ang masakit. 110 million. Nandito na po. Nandito na.

**[04:01:14.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002784)  
Ano po ba ang Manufactured Certified Useful Life ng Makina ng Miro na ginamit natin noong 2025 National and Local Election?

**[04:01:24.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002785)  
Tatlong taon lang ba? Limang taon? O sampung taon? O higit pa?

**[04:01:31.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002786)  
Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, pwede po siyang gamitin for three elections po talaga yung kapasidad po ng ating mga makita na pin-provide po ng ating provider ng Miro.

**[04:01:46.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002787)  
So may independent engineering report po ba ang Comelec na nagsasabing magiging functional o secure pa ang mga makina.

**[04:01:54.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002788)  
Ito for 2028?

**[04:01:56.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002789)  
So, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, base po ito sa DOST certification po at international certification entity na nagkakondak po ng verification po sa ating mga makina.

**[04:02:12.560] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002790)  
So yun po ang kanilang ginamit.

**[04:02:15.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002791)  
May particular component po ba ang mga makinang ito na magiging obsolete pagdating ng 2028?

**[04:02:24.780] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002792)  
Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, baka po yung scanner lang po yung kailangan palitan.

**[04:02:32.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002793)  
Kung sa the rest, processor okay lang po.

**[04:02:36.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002793-split-2)  
Battery, modem, operating system, security module, scanner lang po?

**[04:02:46.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002794)  
Ang isa pang recommendation ng Commission ay yung fan po kapag medyo mainit po yung presinto.

**[04:02:54.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002797)  
May mga cases po kasing nag-o-overheat yung ating makina. Yun po yung iniisip po nila o nire-recommend nilang idagdag sa terms of reference para po maiwasan yung overheating ng mga makina.

**[04:03:07.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002798)  
Maaari po bang hilingin sa Comelec na bago magdesisyon sa final na terms of reference ng bidding for the 2028 election ay magharap ng independent engineering study ang Comelec na naghahambing

**[04:03:26.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002799)  
continued use with ordinary maintenance, refurbishment and upgrading, partial replacement ng defective units at complete replacement na mahigit

**[04:03:37.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002800)  
110,000 brand new machines? Kung pwede po magkaroon tayo ng comparative cost analysis at kung ano yung mga technical advantages ng bawat isa.

**[04:03:51.620] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002801)  
Pwede po, oo. Mr. Speaker, open po ang komisyon sa ganyang question. Kailangan lang rin po ng tulong po ng DOST kasi sila po yung namamahala po,

**[04:04:02.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002802)  
with regard po sa technical specifications.

**[04:04:04.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002803)  
Mahalaga po na maipaabot to.

**[04:04:07.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002804)  
Sa pagkat gusto, ang kailangan natin sa Kongreso, mapatunayan na yung 23 billion talagang kailangan sa paggastos at panggastos ng bayan.

**[04:04:21.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002805)  
Alam nyo naman na nakikita naman natin na napaka kaunti ng fiscal space natin ngayon. Only 16% lang po ang fiscal space natin.

**[04:04:35.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002806)  
At yung 8-10 billion na matitipid ay napakalaking bagay para sa ibang mga pangangailangan ng ating bayan.

**[04:04:50.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002807)  
Gusto ko rin pong tanungin ng Comelec. Noong 2025 elections ay nagpakita ng humigit kumulang 99.997 accuracy ang mirror systems. Tama po ba?

**[04:05:05.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002808)  
Tama po, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:05:07.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002809)  
But accuracy is not the only measure. Kaya hinihingi namin ang buong performance record.

**[04:05:12.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002810)  
Ilang machine ang na-deploy? Ilan ang hindi nag-start? Ilan ang nag-malfunction habang bumoboto ang publiko?

**[04:05:22.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002811)  
Ilan ang na-repair? Ilan ang kinakailangang palitan? Ilan ang hindi nakapag-transmit electronically?

**[04:05:28.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002812)  
Ilan ang kinakailangang gumamit ng alternative transmission? Gano'ng katagal ang average waiting time para sa replacement?

**[04:05:35.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002813)  
Ilang election protests ang direktang naugnay sa machine counting errors? Anong defects ang hindi kayang ayusin sa pamagitan ng ordinary repair or upgrade?

**[04:05:46.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002814)  
Hindi ko lang po hinihingi na sagutin ito ngayon. Hinihingi ko lang po na maibigay sa atin yung mga sagot na ito sa lalong madaling panahon.

**[04:05:54.920] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002815)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Commission will comply. Ia-add lang rin po nila yung reports during the BARM elections rin po para po makonsolidate yung data.

**[04:06:04.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002816)  
Regarding doon sa...

**[04:06:05.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002817)  
Lilinawin ko rin po ulit. Hindi po nagrekomenda ang Comelec Advisory Council na ang gamitin natin for the 2025 elections ay brand new machines.

**[04:06:18.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002818)  
Hindi po, Mr. Speaker. More on technical issues lang po yung kanilang po narekomenda.

**[04:06:28.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002819)  
Nag-recommend ba ang Advisory Council laban sa reuse?

**[04:06:35.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002820)  
Hindi po, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:06:38.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002821)  
Paano po nailagay yung brand new doon sa Terms of Reference? Hindi ba inuunahan ng Comelec ang isang technical question na ipinagkatiwala ng Batas Advisory Council?

**[04:06:50.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002822)  
Hindi naman po kasi, Mr. Speaker, finafinalize pa rin naman po yung TOR. Any suggestion coming from our colleagues and other partners po, welcome na welcome naman po.

**[04:07:02.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002823)  
But it was not discussed in the meeting.

**[04:07:05.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002824)  
It was not discussed in the meeting of the Comelec Advisory Council whether... Kasi po, napaka-critical nung reuse because it can save 8 to 10 billion pesos. Bakit hindi ito napag-usapan sa Comelec Advisory Council?

**[04:07:21.360] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002825)  
Well, Mr. Speaker, more importantly, hindi po kasi parte ang Comelec ng Comelec Advisory Council. So, kaya hindi po siya napag-usap.

**[04:07:29.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002826)  
Ay, wala pong say ang ating komisyon.

**[04:07:32.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002827)  
kung ano po yung

**[04:07:33.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002828)  
rekomendasyon po ng ating CAC.

**[04:07:37.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002829)  
Yung pagtatali po sa brand new hindi naman po nila minamandato.

**[04:07:46.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002830)  
Pero, dahil po medyo rapid po yung changing technologies po ngayon, yun po yung naiisip o nai-envision po ng ating komisyon na gamitin para po mas sigurado dahil nga po may mga certain issues po ng overheating na na...

**[04:08:03.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002831)  
...experience po ng ating 2025 election.

**[04:08:07.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002832)  
Ibig pong sabihin, sa napakahalagang issue ng reuse, ay hindi po pinag-usapan ng Comelec Advisory Council ito?

**[04:08:20.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002833)  
Hindi po napag-usapan ng ating CAC ang ating kanyang rekomendasyon po, Mr. Speaker, kasi hindi po talaga parte ang Comelec ng CAC.

**[04:08:33.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002834)  
So, ibig pong sabihin, binibigyan ng CAC ang Comelec ng Blanket Authority dating po sa issue ng reuse. Tama po ba yan?

**[04:08:53.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002835)  
So, Mr. Speaker, hindi naman po Blanket Authority. Ang ating komisyon ay lagi pong kinukonsidera ang rekomendasyon po ng ating...

**[04:09:03.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002836)  
...Comelec Advisory Council at ang iba pong partners.

**[04:09:08.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002837)  
Sabalit, ito po ay isa sa pinakamahalagang technical issue, whether reuse is possible.

**[04:09:16.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002838)  
Bakit hindi pinag-usapan?

**[04:09:19.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002839)  
Ito po ba ay, ano, kailangan pang ang inyong lingkod ang magpaalam sa Comelec Advisory Council para hihingin ang kanilang opinion pagdating po sa issue ng reuse?

**[04:09:33.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002840)  
So, hindi po silang pwedeng, ang ating komisyon, hindi po pong pwedeng mga alam kung ano po yung napag-uusapan doon.

**[04:09:48.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002841)  
Pero yung ating pong question on reuse, open naman po ang ating pong komisyon, pag-aaralan po nila.

**[04:09:55.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002842)  
Hayaan niyo po at tutulungan natin ang Comelec na tanungin ang Comelec Advisory Council.

**[04:10:01.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002843)  
Nasa ilalim po ng Republic Act No.

**[04:10:03.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002844)  
12009, the New Government Procurement Act, kinakailangan ng value for money, market scoping at lifestyle cost analysis.

**[04:10:12.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002845)  
Nagsagawa ba ang Comelec ng cost analysis bago nito iminungkahi ang 23 billion halaga?

**[04:10:21.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002846)  
Yes po, Mr. Speaker, nagkasagawa po ng market scoping ating pong Comelec.

**[04:10:26.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002847)  
At pwede niyo po bang i-discuss ito ngayon kung ano yung mga findings?

**[04:10:33.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002848)  
Please, on how did you arrive with 23 billion?

**[04:10:43.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002849)  
Ang base po sa kanilang market scoping, ang presyo po na kailangan niya ay 25.6 billion.

**[04:10:56.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002850)  
Lease pa lang po ito.

**[04:10:58.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002851)  
Pardon?

**[04:10:59.460] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002852)  
Lease pa lang po, contract of lease, renta po.

**[04:11:03.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002853)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[04:11:05.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002854)  
Meaning, magkano po per unit?

**[04:11:17.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002855)  
Ang estimate price po niya, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, mga 180,000 per machine po.

**[04:11:28.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002856)  
Nagsagawa po ba ang Comelec ng consultation regarding sa mga posibilidad?

**[04:11:33.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002857)  
Halaga ng reuse, halaga ng reuse ng 2025 machines, halaga ng upgrading, halaga ng pag-lease lamang ng karagdagang machines,

**[04:11:42.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002858)  
halaga ng isang completely new system at expected useful life at residual value ng bawat opso.

**[04:11:53.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002859)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, sa ngayon wala pa po na nagagawa on the study regarding sa reuse po.

**[04:12:00.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002860)  
So, habang pina-finalize pa po yung ating TOR, wala pa pong final say ang ating pong Comelec regarding that matter.

**[04:12:12.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002861)  
And, iniintay rin pong matapos rin po yung final counting nung sa Bangsamoro.

**[04:12:19.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002862)  
Nagtataka lang po ako, Mr. Speaker, na we arrive at 23 billion without doing all these matters.

**[04:12:26.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002863)  
Bakit hindi mo natin ginawa ito?

**[04:12:28.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002864)  
So, upang na...

**[04:12:30.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002865)  
Pagkaharap sa budget, dito po, pag-ingin ng budget sa ating bayan, alam natin kung ano yung cost effective.

**[04:12:40.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002866)  
Ngayon po, hindi natin alam kasi.

**[04:12:42.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002867)  
Hindi natin alam kung gagamitin natin yung dating machine kung kano ba ang magagasos natin.

**[04:12:49.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002868)  
Gaya nga ng sinabi ko kanina, logically, mas mura yung magamit na natin.

**[04:12:59.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002869)  
Kung po pwede ba?

**[04:13:00.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002870)  
Sapagkat nandito na yung mga machines. Wala na yung logistics cost.

**[04:13:08.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002871)  
So, ngayon po, kung tatanungin ko kayo, hindi nyo po masasagot kung magkano yung repurbish cost at upgrading cost nung Miro machine kung ito ang gagamitin natin.

**[04:13:25.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002872)  
At least estimated po sa...

**[04:13:27.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002873)  
Alam ko naman na pakita sa bidding.

**[04:13:29.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002874)  
Saka mo malalaman.

**[04:13:30.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002875)  
Alam ko naman kung ano yung cost. Pero yung estimated cost ng reuse compared to a brand new machine.

**[04:13:40.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002876)  
Mr. Speaker, as of now po, hindi pa po napafactor in yung presyo ng ating pag-referbish ng mga nagamit na dahil hindi pa nga po final yung TOR.

**[04:13:55.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002877)  
Tapos...

**[04:14:00.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002879)  
What does it mean that the Commission on Elections is hell-bent on leasing a brand new machine?

**[04:14:07.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002880)  
Because they did not factor in existence of these old machines.

**[04:14:15.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002881)  
Mr. Speaker, hindi naman po sila hell-bent to lease new machines.

**[04:14:22.420] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002882)  
They will study kung ano po yung pangailangan pa kung magre-reuse po ng ating mga machines na nagamit po ng...

**[04:14:30.400] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002883)  
May 2025 National and Local Elections pati ng BARB.

**[04:14:35.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002884)  
Ano po bang particular na requirement ng 2028 ang hindi kayang gawin ng 2025 machines?

**[04:15:00.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002886)  
Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, more on additional machines po, yung kakailanganin din, kailangan po mag-input ng ibang measures para po yung mga issues na experienced po noong 2025 elections, pati nitong BARM, iayos na rin po, ma-incorporate po sa ating mga machines na i-release, if ever, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[04:15:27.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002887)  
I have several questions here. Hindi ko na po inihiling na sagutin nyo na rin kagad ngayon. Maaari lang po maibigay sa akin ng kasagutan sa lalong magdaling panahon.

**[04:15:37.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002888)  
Kaya ba nilang mag-scan ng mas mahabang balot?

**[04:15:40.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002889)  
Maaari bang i-reconfigure ang software para sa President at Vice President nitong mga lumang machine?

**[04:15:48.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002890)  
Maaari bang i-upgrade ang memory, modem, batteries, o processors?

**[04:15:51.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002891)  
Kung mas marami ang precincts, bakit hindi na lamang mag-lease o kumuha ng karagdagang machines?

**[04:15:57.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002892)  
Kaysa halip na palitan ng 110,620 machines.

**[04:16:02.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002893)  
Kailangan siguro po ay i-quantify talaga ng COMELEC yung additional workload, tukuyin ang eksaktong hardware limitation bago tayo mag-desisyon.

**[04:16:14.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002894)  
Kung walang malinaw na sagot, ang mas complex na presidential election ay slogan lamang, hindi bidding, sapagkat nakita ko po maraming mga violations.

**[04:16:25.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002895)  
In fact,

**[04:16:27.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002896)  
One of my allegations was gumamit lang yung Miro ng isang kumpanya para maabot yung kanyang contracting capacity.

**[04:16:42.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002897)  
At yung kumpanya po na yan ay yung mga nakakulong na ngayon.

**[04:16:46.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002898)  
Siguro po, alam nyo.

**[04:16:47.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002899)  
So, mahalaga po na maging malinaw in terms of reference natin para hindi masisentro baka mangyari yan isang bidder na naman.

**[04:16:57.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002900)  
Baka yung terms of reference ay tailored fit sa isang bidder.

**[04:17:05.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002901)  
Siguro po, sa akin naman po, it's more of a caution rather than an accusation.

**[04:17:11.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002902)  
Mas mabuti ngayon pa lang, mas malinaw na kaysa dubating doon sa punto na kinakailangan na naman ang inyong lingkod ay mag-file ng kaso sa Korte Suprema.

**[04:17:21.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002903)  
Mas mabuti pa ngayon pa lang, maisaayos na.

**[04:17:26.180] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002904)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[04:17:27.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002905)  
Tama po yung ating kasamahan po dito sa Kongreso.

**[04:17:32.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002906)  
The Commission will take into account lahat po ng suggestion at yung mga hinihingi pong mga kasagutan regarding po sa technical specification po.

**[04:17:42.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002907)  
Lalo na po doon sa machines na ginawit po ng last national and local elections, sasabit po ng ating komisyon.

**[04:17:50.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002908)  
Finally, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor,

**[04:17:55.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002909)  
meron po akong ilang mga kasusunod.

**[04:17:57.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002910)  
May mga katanungan na nais ko din masagot ng Commission on Elections upang masiguro natin na magiging mas maayos ang procurement natin for the 2028 elections.

**[04:18:09.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002911)  
Unang tanong, siguro po kailangan sagutin ng malinaw, may independent study ba na nagsasabing safe o unsafe yung 2025 machines na ginamit natin?

**[04:18:24.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002912)  
May independent study ba?

**[04:18:27.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002913)  
technically obsolete

**[04:18:30.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002914)  
o hindi pa ang mga ito?

**[04:18:32.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002915)  
Natukoy na ba ng Comelec

**[04:18:34.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002916)  
ang remaining useful life ng machines?

**[04:18:38.140] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002917)  
Congressman Erice, your time is up.

**[04:18:40.320] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002918)  
Kindly wind up, please.

**[04:18:41.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002919)  
Yes, I'm winding up. This is my final...

**[04:18:44.080] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002920)  
Thank you.

**[04:18:46.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002921)  
Natukoy na ba ang halaga ng

**[04:18:47.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002922)  
refurbishment and upgrading nito?

**[04:18:50.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002923)  
At kung magkano?

**[04:18:52.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002924)  
Nakumpleto na ba ang

**[04:18:53.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002925)  
life cycle cost comparison?

**[04:18:55.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002926)  
Yes or no?

**[04:18:57.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002927)  
Nag-recommend ba?

**[04:18:59.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002928)  
Kailangan siguro po na muling konsultuhin

**[04:19:01.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002929)  
ang advisory council tungkol dito.

**[04:19:06.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002930)  
Sinumite ba ng Comelec

**[04:19:08.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002931)  
sa Kongreso ang resolution

**[04:19:09.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002932)  
minutes at technical studies?

**[04:19:12.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002933)  
Papayagan ba ng terms of reference

**[04:19:14.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002934)  
ang qualified bidder na mag-aalok

**[04:19:16.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002935)  
ng proven, secure, and upgraded machines?

**[04:19:19.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002936)  
Sumasangayon ba

**[04:19:20.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002937)  
ang Comelec na walang final decision

**[04:19:22.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002938)  
hanggat hindi nakakatanggap ang Kongreso

**[04:19:24.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002939)  
ng independent,

**[04:19:25.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002940)  
itemized, at auditable

**[04:19:27.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002941)  
comparison ng lahat

**[04:19:29.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002942)  
ng options?

**[04:19:31.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002943)  
Yun lamang po at hinihingi ko

**[04:19:33.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002944)  
na masagot ito ng

**[04:19:35.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002945)  
Commission on Elections. Salamat po.

**[04:19:36.900] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002946)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker. The Commission will

**[04:19:38.960] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002947)  
submit po

**[04:19:41.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002948)  
yung lahat po ng katanungan po ng ating

**[04:19:42.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002949)  
distinguished colleague. As regards po

**[04:19:45.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002950)  
sa independent study, hinihintay lang rin po

**[04:19:47.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002951)  
yung katapusan po ng ating

**[04:19:48.740] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002952)  
Bangsamoro

**[04:19:49.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002953)  
elections para po ma-incorporate po

**[04:19:53.300] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002954)  
yung conduct po ng elections.

**[04:19:55.380] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002955)  
ang BARMM doon sa study po na gagawin

**[04:19:57.140] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002956)  
ng ating Comelec.

**[04:19:58.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002957)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[04:19:59.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002958)  
Thank you po.

**[04:20:00.800] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002959)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader.

**[04:20:05.680] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-002960)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[04:20:08.000] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-002961)  
the Honorable Representative

**[04:20:09.460] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-002962)  
Sarah Jane Elago of Gabriela

**[04:20:11.860] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-002963)  
Women's Party List

**[04:20:13.600] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-002964)  
to interpellate on the proposed budget

**[04:20:15.940] Rep. Sittie Shahara "Bai Dimple" I. Mastura** (asr-002965)  
of the Commission on Elections.

**[04:20:18.080] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002966)  
Honorable Sarah Jane Elago

**[04:20:20.200] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-002967)  
is recognized. Please proceed.

**[04:20:24.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002968)  
Maraming salamat.

**[04:20:25.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002970)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:20:27.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002971)  
First, during the

**[04:20:29.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002972)  
2027 budget briefing for Comelec,

**[04:20:31.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002973)  
the Commission put great emphasis

**[04:20:33.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002974)  
on voter registration

**[04:20:35.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002975)  
to ensure that more Filipinos

**[04:20:37.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002976)  
are registered and are able to

**[04:20:39.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002977)  
vote before the 2028

**[04:20:41.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002978)  
national elections. In particular,

**[04:20:43.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002979)  
the Commission has set

**[04:20:45.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002980)  
a goal to increase the number

**[04:20:47.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002981)  
of registered voters from

**[04:20:49.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002982)  
1.2 million to

**[04:20:50.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002983)  
2 million before the

**[04:20:53.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002984)  
2028 national elections.

**[04:20:55.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002985)  
Ngayon, September 2026 na.

**[04:20:57.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002986)  
Maaari po ba nating malaman mula sa ating

**[04:20:59.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002987)  
distinguished sponsor kung

**[04:21:00.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002988)  
ilang mga Pilipino na ang nadagdag

**[04:21:03.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002989)  
sa ating mga

**[04:21:04.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002990)  
registered voters?

**[04:21:06.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002991)  
Maaari po ba nating maihiwalay

**[04:21:08.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002992)  
kung ilan dito ang mga overseas

**[04:21:11.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002993)  
Filipino voters?

**[04:21:26.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002994)  
As of now po, ang number of

**[04:21:26.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002995)  
registered

**[04:21:29.040] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002996)  
overseas voters

**[04:21:30.500] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002997)  
as of August 12, 2026

**[04:21:33.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002998)  
is about

**[04:21:33.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-002999)  
1,014,701

**[04:21:37.440] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003000)  
voters.

**[04:21:38.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003001)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[04:21:40.520] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003002)  
Hopefully po

**[04:21:41.580] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003003)  
madagdagan po ito

**[04:21:42.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003004)  
ng mga 500,000

**[04:21:45.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003005)  
before the next

**[04:21:48.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003006)  
national and local election.

**[04:21:49.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003007)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[04:21:51.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003008)  
nakita rin natin na merong

**[04:21:52.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003009)  
malaking pagbawas yung

**[04:21:54.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003010)  
pondo pagdating

**[04:21:56.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003011)  
sa voters information and education

**[04:21:59.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003012)  
program. At nababahala

**[04:22:00.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003013)  
po tayo dahil nang

**[04:22:02.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003014)  
humarap dito ang Department of Foreign Affairs,

**[04:22:04.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003015)  
nasabi po nila na

**[04:22:06.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003016)  
ang isa sa mga hamon

**[04:22:07.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003017)  
sa paglulunsad din nila ng overseas voting

**[04:22:11.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003018)  
registration ay yung

**[04:22:11.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003019)  
kakulangan ng awareness

**[04:22:12.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003020)  
ng ating mga kababayan

**[04:22:15.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003021)  
na nagtatrabaho

**[04:22:16.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003022)  
o kaya naman ay

**[04:22:18.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003023)  
naninirahan na overseas.

**[04:22:21.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003024)  
At tungkol doon sa

**[04:22:21.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003025)  
hindi lang po registration

**[04:22:24.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003026)  
kundi pati doon sa

**[04:22:26.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003027)  
bagong online voting system

**[04:22:29.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003028)  
na mangangailangan ng enrollment.

**[04:22:31.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003029)  
Maaari po ba nating malaman

**[04:22:33.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003030)  
kung pinag-aaralan ng Comelec

**[04:22:35.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003031)  
kung babaguhin ba

**[04:22:36.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003032)  
ang proseso na ito?

**[04:22:37.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003033)  
Maaari po ba

**[04:22:38.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003034)  
na kapag nag-register ka ay automatic na rin po na enrolled ang ating mga kababayan doon sa bagong sistema na ginagamit ngayon para sa overseas voting?

**[04:22:51.320] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003047)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, pinag-aaralan po ng ating komisyon yung suggestion po ng ating kasamahan na kapag nagka-register ka, naka-enroll na rin po. So marami pong activities ang ginagawa po ng Comelec para po

**[04:23:18.660] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003048)  
mas mapaigting at mapadami po yung overseas registration para po sa ating Comelec. Nagsasagawa po sila ng iba?t ibang town hall meetings, lalo na po sa ating mga Filipino community leaders.

**[04:23:28.720] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003049)  
Pero dadagdagan pa po nila ng voters education on the full process po, lalo na po ng ating online voting na isinasagawa

**[04:23:37.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003050)  
para po sa convenience po ng ating mga kababayan abroad.

**[04:23:42.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003051)  
May mga mock voting na rin po silang planong gawin and system demos.

**[04:23:47.860] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003052)  
Pati mas madaling enrollment po sa kanila at help desk and feedback channels na pwedeng matawagan o mapagsabihan po ng ating mga kababayan abroad

**[04:24:01.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003053)  
through Komelec DFA and community partners.

**[04:24:05.340] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003054)  
So nakalatag na rin po ang

**[04:24:07.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003055)  
mga plano ng komisyon para po mas mapaigting po yung ating registration sa overseas.

**[04:24:13.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003056)  
Maraming salamat Mr. Speaker at magandang balita po na halimbawa meron po pakikipagtulungan sa OWA, sa Marina, sa DMW

**[04:24:22.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003057)  
para po bago umalis ang ating mga kababayang OFWs ay meron na silang gagawing registration

**[04:24:29.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003058)  
na kumaari nga ay maisama na rin yung enrollment para isahan na lang po na matatapos ito.

**[04:24:35.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003059)  
At atin pong aabala.

**[04:24:37.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003060)  
Ang mga kababayan ang ginagawang pag-aaral ng Komelec kung paano matitiyak na hindi lang mapapabilis

**[04:24:43.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003061)  
ngunit matitiyak na yung mga kababayan natin na registered na ay enrolled na rin dun sa bagong sistema na gagamitin para sa susunod na eleksyon.

**[04:24:54.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003062)  
Dahil Mr. Speaker, na ibalita rin sa atin ang Komelec noong budget briefing na para sa 2028 national elections,

**[04:25:02.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003063)  
internet voting na ang gagamitin sa 104 na post.

**[04:25:07.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003064)  
Ang ibig sabihin po ba nito ay fully online voting na po ang ating gagamitin at hindi na po by post or in-person voting ang mangyayari para sa susunod na eleksyon?

**[04:25:34.000] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003065)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, fully online na po ang gagamitin po ng ating komisyon for the 2028 elections.

**[04:25:45.990] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003066)  
Mr. Speaker, hindi po ba tayo nababahala doon sa mga concerns na dahil bago pa lang po ang ating sistema, marahil kinakailangan pa ng mas maraming oras para sa mas malawak na information and education effort para malaman ng ating mga kababayan na

**[04:26:07.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003067)  
100% ang gagamitin na po natin ay online voting.

**[04:26:12.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003068)  
Marami pa pong mga concerns tungkol dun sa nabanggit ko na tila ba second process ng registration yung enrollment process na kailangan pang pagdaanan ng ating mga kababayan.

**[04:26:27.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003069)  
Kaya po sa ngayon, yung pondo po na naibigay sa atin na nakalakip sa General Appropriations Bill para sa 2027,

**[04:26:36.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003070)  
makukover po ba nito lahat?

**[04:26:37.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003071)  
At ng mga nais nating maabot sa ibang bansa, may it be through satellite registration overseas or through our collaboration with other agencies to reach more Filipinos overseas.

**[04:26:54.240] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003072)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, kulang po yung naibigay na budget para po sa ating Comelec regarding voters education with regard sa online voting po.

**[04:27:06.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003073)  
Ang gusto po sana ng Komelec ay full process ang ma-inform po sa ating mga kababayan abroad.

**[04:27:15.100] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003074)  
Maalaman po nila kung paano po gamitin talaga ang online voting.

**[04:27:19.280] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003075)  
At sa ngayon po, yung online voting and counting system naman po ay nagsasagwa pa rin po ng TOR.

**[04:27:26.120] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003076)  
Mas gusto pa rin po ng komisyon na maging user-friendly po para po sa ating mga kababayan abroad para po sa convenience nila sa pagboto.

**[04:27:34.200] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003077)  
So, may mga refinement po.

**[04:27:36.020] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003078)  
Ang ginagawa sa ating online voting para po ba sigurado yung boto at yung pangamba po ng ating mga kababayan abroad ay mawala po.

**[04:27:46.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003079)  
Mr. Speaker, tayo po ay nanghingi na rin ng assessment ng Komelec tungkol sa paggamit ng bagong online voting system na ito na ginamit sa una pagkakataon dito ng 2025

**[04:27:59.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003080)  
at gagamitin muli sa mas maraming jurisdiction sa susunod na national elections.

**[04:28:05.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003081)  
Yan po ang aabangan natin mula sa ating distinguished sponsor at sa ating komisyon.

**[04:28:10.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003082)  
Pangalawa, meron din mga panukalang batas na sa ngayon ay subject na ng deliberation dito sa House of Representatives

**[04:28:19.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003083)  
tungkol naman sa pagkakaroon ng iba't iba pa rin na modalities pagdating sa pagboto at pagtitiyak ng pagbilang ng boto ng ating mga kababayan.

**[04:28:29.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003084)  
Na habang may option para sa online voting ay meron pa rin opsyon.

**[04:28:35.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003085)  
By post or in person kung ano ang pinakaabot kamay sa ating mga kababayan.

**[04:28:42.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003086)  
Lahat po yan para sa interes ng pagtitiyak ng kanilang karapatan sa pagboto, ng karapatan sa pagpili ng kanilang mga susunod na leader,

**[04:28:51.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003087)  
ng ating mga susunod na mamumuno sa ating bayan.

**[04:28:55.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003088)  
Ngayon naman po, nais kong magtanong, ginoong Speaker, tungkol sa katatapos na makasaysayang BARMM elections.

**[04:29:05.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003089)  
Ang mga katanungan po ng kinatawan na ito ay tungkol sa katatapos lamang na barm parliamentary elections noong September 14, 2026.

**[04:29:18.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003090)  
At ito po ay batay sa mga tanong, sa mga obserbasyon ng mga grupo ng iba't ibang civil society organizations na accredited ng COMELEC bilang local observers sa nasabing parliamentary election.

**[04:29:35.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003091)  
Una po, ano po ang naging aksyon ng COMELEC na kaugnay ng mga ulat mula po sa ilang mga lugar na merong mga botante na nagsabi, nagulat,

**[04:29:47.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003092)  
na hindi sila nakaboto dahil ang kanilang mga balota ay di umano'y pre-shaded na o mayroon ng mga nakamarkang mga pangalan ng kandidato bago pa po nila ito matanggap.

**[04:30:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003093)  
Gaano ba kalawak ang mga ulat na ito? Nadinig na po ba ito ng COMELEC? At may sinasagawa na po ba sa ngayon na investigation para matiyak ang katotohanan sa mga ulat na ito?

**[04:30:13.480] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003094)  
Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung regarding po, specifically yung sa Maluso, Basilan, nagkaroon po ng pre-shading po ng ballots.

**[04:30:24.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003095)  
Ang naka-discovery po ng pre-shading rin po na yan ay COMELEC. So ang naging action po ng ating buting komisyon ay ma-recall po yung mga pre-shaded na ballots.

**[04:30:36.840] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003096)  
At kinaalam na po, well may sampina na rin po lahat po ng posibleng nagtamper po dito po sa mga balotang ito based on sa chain of custody.

**[04:30:53.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003097)  
Ng mga balotang.

**[04:30:54.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003098)  
Ng mga balotang ito, actually kahapon po inilabas yung sampina po para po dito sa mga posibleng malagot po sa pre-shading po ng ballots. Mr. Speaker.

**[04:31:06.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003099)  
Mr. Speaker, maari po bang magbigay ng espesipikong bilang ang ating distinguished sponsor kung gano po karami itong mga natanggap na mga reports na sa ngayon ay dumadaan na sa proseso ng verifikasyon at investigasyon ng ating...

**[04:31:24.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003100)  
Commission on Elections.

**[04:31:28.820] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003101)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, based on sa mga reports po na sinasabi po ng ating buting kasamahan, more or less 10 reports po yung bine-verify nila regarding this matter sa mga insidente po sa Bangsamoro Elections.

**[04:31:48.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003102)  
Mr. Speaker, kung meron na pong initial na report, ukol dito ang...

**[04:31:54.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003103)  
Paari pong maisumite na lang sa ating Committee on Appropriations.

**[04:32:00.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003104)  
At nais ko pong magtanong, paano po ba natin matitiyak o ano yung ating mga hakbang para matiyak?

**[04:32:08.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003105)  
Halimbawa yung transparency sa proseso ng pag-uulat ng ganitong tipo ng mga kaso.

**[04:32:16.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003106)  
Meron po ba silang timely na updating doon sa mga side ng mga...

**[04:32:24.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003107)  
Mahapag o naghahain ng kanilang mga complaint upang matiyak na agarang naaaksyonan ang ganitong tipo ng mga ulat?

**[04:32:33.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003108)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, na Commission ensures na open po sila sa mga ganitong updates po regarding po sa iba't ibang kaso.

**[04:32:54.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003109)  
So, ang gusto po nila, pag may mga insidente na kailangan po ma-report po sa ating Commission,

**[04:33:01.940] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003110)  
at least, paisabi po, ma-inform po sila para po immediately magawan po nila ng aksyon kung ano po yung nararapat, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[04:33:11.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003111)  
Ngayon, Mr. Speaker, tungkol naman po sa ulat rin ng malaking deployment ng military and uniformed personnel sa ilang mga lugar sa BARM noong panahon ng halalan,

**[04:33:22.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003112)  
ano po ba ang naging batayan at layunan?

**[04:33:24.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003113)  
At paano po tinitiyak ng COMELEC na ang presensya halimbawa ng military uniformed personnel o ng mga security forces ay hindi po nakakalikha ng anumang tipo ng pagbabanta o nantakot sa mga botante at hindi nakakaapekto sa malayang pagboto ng ating mga kababayan?

**[04:33:47.980] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003114)  
So, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[04:33:53.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003115)  
more on yung focus po ng ating pong COMELEC,

**[04:33:54.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003116)  
during the BARM is yung mga red category areas, yung mga areas na may historical basis ng violence rin po during elections.

**[04:34:06.080] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003117)  
Ang kasigurahan lang po siguro ang mapapakita po na mapayapang nakaboto yung ating pong mga kababayan po mula sa BARM is dahil 84% po ang turnout ng voting sa ating pong Bangsamoro.

**[04:34:22.060] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003118)  
Dahil po doon sa ganong data,

**[04:34:24.680] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003119)  
ito po ang napapakita ng data na ito is malaking tulong po yung ating pong kapulisan sa malayang pagboto po ng ating pong mga kababayan sa BARM.

**[04:34:36.160] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003120)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[04:34:39.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003121)  
Mr. Speaker, higit po nating pag-aaralan ang isusumiteng initial report ng Comelec tungkol dito upang matiyak po natin ang interes ng malayang pagboto at ang pagkakaroon ng halalan na

**[04:34:54.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003122)  
pantay, na patas at malinis po sa lahat ng mga naghahangad na ito ay buong-buong magtagumpay. Ngayon naman po, tungkol naman sa hindi lang po hiling pero panawagan ng representasyong ito, at nawa?y makasama natin dito ang distinguished sponsor. Napakalaki ho ng budget cut para sa programa na may kinalaman sa online voting para po sa ating mga

**[04:35:24.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003123)  
overseas na voters. Gayundin po, napakababa ng pondo para sa voter information and education program. Ito po yung mga programa na magtitiyak ng tagumpay ng halalan ay hindi po nakadepende lang sa Comelec. Pero magtitiyak na yung tao mismo, ang ating mga kababayan mismo, ay nakakaalam kung paano sila magbabantay at kung paano sila kasama sa pagtitiyak ng

**[04:35:54.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003124)  
karapatan sa pagboto at kung paano rin sila kasama sa pagtataguyod ng tunay na demokrasya dito sa ating bansa.

**[04:36:00.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-003125)  
At sana po makasama natin ang distinguished sponsor sa panawagan na ma-restore sa 2026 level ang mga programang ito kung hindi man madagdagan para makahabol po tayo sa target na mas maraming registered voters para sa susunod na halalan. Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat, distinguished sponsor.

**[04:36:23.600] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003126)  
Maraming salamat sa comment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, at thank you to our colleague na sumusuporta po sa madagdagan pa yung mga budget na nawala po sa ating komisyon. And we will submit po lahat po ng hinihinging impormasyon ng ating kasamahan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:36:40.560] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003127)  
Thank you. Majority Leader.

**[04:36:42.200] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003128)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sergio Dagooc of APEC Party-list.

**[04:36:49.280] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003129)  
Representative Dagooc is recognized. Please proceed.

**[04:36:53.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003130)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Majority Leader. Mr. Speaker, there being no other members from the minority who wanted to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections for fiscal year 2027. Mr. Speaker, thank you very much.

**[04:37:17.240] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003131)  
What does the House say?

**[04:37:18.480] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003132)  
Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections.

**[04:37:27.960] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003133)  
There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections. Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The interpellations on the proposed budget of the Commission on Elections are hereby terminated.

**[04:37:42.800] Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan** (asr-003134)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:37:44.480] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003135)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:37:45.210] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003136)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

**[04:37:47.720] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003137)  
Session suspended.

**[04:41:03.600] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003139)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:41:05.880] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003140)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we now consider

**[04:41:08.640] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003141)  
the proposed budget of the Anti-Red Tape Authority.

**[04:41:11.760] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003142)  
Is there any objection?

**[04:41:13.600] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003143)  
The Chair hears none. Motion is approved.

**[04:41:14.880] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003144)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:41:16.240] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003145)  
Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials of the Anti-Red Tape Authority.

**[04:41:22.440] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003146)  
They are Director General Ernesto Perez, Deputy Director General Lea Salcedo, Deputy Director General Rocco Jod, Echeverry, Deputy Director General Pua Billy Racho.

**[04:41:39.480] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003147)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Anti-Red Tape Authority, headed by Director General Perez.

**[04:41:49.260] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003148)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

**[04:41:53.000] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003149)  
Mr. Speaker, I now move to recognize Representative Isabel L. Sagarbarria of the Second District of Negros Occidental,

**[04:42:02.400] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003150)  
Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to answer questions on the proposed budget of the Anti-Red Tape Authority.

**[04:42:10.480] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003151)  
Representative Sagarbarria is recognized. Please proceed.

**[04:42:14.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003152)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, it is my honor and privilege to sponsor the proposed budget of the Anti-

**[04:42:39.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003153)  
Sorry, of the Anti-Money Laundering Council, of the Anti-Red Tape Authority, under the House Bill number 10858,

**[04:42:55.140] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003154)  
or the Fiscal Year 2027 General Appropriations Bill, amounting to P436,720,000, since its establishment pursuant to Republic Act number 11032,

**[04:43:08.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003155)  
or the Ease of Doing Business

**[04:43:10.560] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003157)  
and Efficient Government Service Delivery Act of 2018,

**[04:43:14.560] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003158)  
ARTA has placed a significant role in reducing regulatory burdens,

**[04:43:19.840] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003159)  
streamlining government processes,

**[04:43:22.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003160)  
and encouraging government agencies to adopt more efficient and digitalized systems.

**[04:43:27.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003161)  
In just 80 years, ARTA has become a vital institution in our bureaucracy,

**[04:43:33.280] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003162)  
delivering reforms that simplify processes,

**[04:43:36.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003163)  
reduce red tape, and strengthen public trust in government.

**[04:43:41.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003164)  
The proposed budget of ARTA aims to ensure that the authority continues to function effectively,

**[04:43:48.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003165)  
uphold reforms, and deliver on its mandate to make government services more efficient,

**[04:43:53.860] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003166)  
transparent, and citizen-oriented.

**[04:43:56.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003167)  
Its proposed initiatives, including the enhancement of the digital platforms,

**[04:44:02.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003168)  
the Philippine-based regulation information system,

**[04:44:06.600] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003169)  
electronic complaints management,

**[04:44:08.840] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003170)  
and other digital-based programs are directed toward making government transactions

**[04:44:14.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003171)  
more accessible, transparent, and efficient for the Filipino people.

**[04:44:19.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003172)  
When we strengthen the ARTA anti-red tape authority,

**[04:44:24.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003173)  
we strengthen the government itself.

**[04:44:26.680] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003174)  
To empower ARTA is to empower the entire bureaucracy to serve with speed, fairness, and integrity.

**[04:44:34.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003175)  
Let us remember,

**[04:44:36.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003176)  
a government that defeats red tape is a government that delivers.

**[04:44:40.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003177)  
The government that delivers is a government that earns trust.

**[04:44:44.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003178)  
The government that earns trust is a government that truly serves its people.

**[04:44:49.600] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003179)  
In view of the foregoing,

**[04:44:51.640] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003180)  
I respectfully seek the support of this honorable house

**[04:44:54.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003181)  
for the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the anti-red tape authority.

**[04:45:00.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003182)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues.

**[04:45:07.200] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003183)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader?

**[04:45:09.140] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003184)  
Mr. Speaker, I now move to recognize Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of Party List 4K to interpolate the sponsor on the proposed budget of the anti-red tape.

**[04:45:21.500] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003185)  
Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes is recognized. Please proceed.

**[04:45:25.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003186)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Magandang hapon po, Distinguished Sponsor and to the ARTA.

**[04:45:32.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003187)  
Ilang katanungan lamang po mula sa Kababaihan Kabalikatan para sa Kapakanan at Kaunlaran ng Bayan or 4K.

**[04:45:40.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003188)  
Una po, your budget, proposed budget for 2027 of 537 million is slightly higher than the current budget, mga around 14 million. Tama po ba?

**[04:45:54.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003189)  
Ang itinaas.

**[04:45:55.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003190)  
Based on the current year's budget, budget for 2027 is sufficient to perform your mandate of reducing red tape in government.

**[04:46:10.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003191)  
No. No, it is not, no.

**[04:46:15.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003192)  
Ano po, what programs will be affected given this decrease in budget specifically?

**[04:46:24.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003193)  
What programs will be affected?

**[04:46:25.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003194)  
What programs will be affected will not be funded, what processes will be compromised, what activities?

**[04:46:42.800] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003195)  
Okay.

**[04:46:44.080] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003196)  
This reduction runs contrary to ARTA's direction of expanding its reach and strengthening the implementation, Republic of 11032.

**[04:46:52.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003197)  
The proposed cut will constrain ARTA's capacity to assist the government.

**[04:46:55.860] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003198)  
The proposed cut will constrain ARTA's capacity to assist and capacitate government agencies in complying with the law directly affecting its mandate to reduce, if not eliminate, red tape in government services.

**[04:47:06.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003199)  
It will also delay ongoing systems development intended to speed up complaints handling, improve data gathering, and strengthen database security and management.

**[04:47:16.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003200)  
Our regional field offices, we likewise have to scale back orientation and inspection activities because of reduced funding for travel,

**[04:47:25.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003201)  
fuel, supplies, training, and other operational requirements.

**[04:47:30.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003202)  
Mr. Speaker, these resources needed to translate the law into actual improvements in government services.

**[04:47:37.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003203)  
Reducing them will limit ARTA's ability to deliver the reforms expected of it.

**[04:47:42.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003204)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:47:45.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003205)  
Regarding po sa citizen complaints, how many complaints about red tape did ARTA receive last year for 2025?

**[04:47:53.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003206)  
Given the total.

**[04:47:55.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003207)  
Ilan po ang na-resolve within the mandated timeline?

**[04:48:01.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003208)  
Actually, as of 2026, the total cases received was 12,335.

**[04:48:08.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003209)  
And the resolved cases within the turnaround time is 11,208, which is 90.86%.

**[04:48:19.880] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003210)  
Mataas po yung resolution rate.

**[04:48:23.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003211)  
Kung saka-sakali,

**[04:48:25.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003212)  
ano man po, ano yung mga five agencies that received the most complaints?

**[04:48:29.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003213)  
Can you name the top five agencies?

**[04:48:38.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003214)  
Okay.

**[04:48:39.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003215)  
The ten most complained government-owned and controlled corporations from January 2, August 31, 2026

**[04:48:47.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003216)  
are the Home Development Mutual Fund, Pag-IBIG, which is the highest,

**[04:48:52.280] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003217)  
Social Security System, GSIS, PhilHealth, Land Bank of the Philippines, PhilPost,

**[04:49:04.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003218)  
National Transmission Corporation, Transco, NFA, Intellectual Property Office,

**[04:49:12.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003219)  
Tourism Infrastructure and Enterprise Zone Authority.

**[04:49:17.140] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003220)  
These are the ten most complained government-owned and controlled corporations.

**[04:49:22.280] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003221)  
And then for the national government agencies,

**[04:49:26.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003222)  
we have the LTO, BIR, Food and Drug Administration,

**[04:49:33.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003223)  
Philippine Statistics Authority, National Telecommunications Commission,

**[04:49:38.840] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003224)  
Department of Education, Land Registration Authority, Register of Deeds,

**[04:49:45.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003225)  
Professional Regulation Commission, PRC, Department of Human Settlement and Urban Development,

**[04:49:51.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003226)  
and the Department of Education.

**[04:49:52.280] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003227)  
For local government, we have the government of Quezon City, of Taguig, of Caloocan, of Pasig, Paranaque, Malolos, Manila, San Jose del Monte, Makati, Muntinlupa, and Avao City.

**[04:50:14.640] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003228)  
Those are all, Mr. Chair.

**[04:50:16.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003229)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[04:50:17.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003230)  
So, lahat po ba, have all agencies already established a public assistance and complaint desk or your ARTA help desk?

**[04:50:30.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003231)  
And is it also properly staffed to handle walk-in complaints, increase in feedback?

**[04:50:38.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003232)  
So, lahat na po, ano pong porsyento ng mga opisinang meron ng ARTA help desk?

**[04:50:44.400] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003233)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:50:45.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003234)  
So, lahat na po meron?

**[04:50:48.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003235)  
Minsan po kasi, Mr. Speaker, I've had this experience just last year.

**[04:50:52.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003236)  
In one of the agencies that you mentioned, sa mga nasa top 10, meron po silang ARTA help desk, pero wala pong personnel.

**[04:51:03.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003237)  
So, yung personnel po, diba, the agency is mandated, sila po dapat ang magpo-provide ng personnel, tama?

**[04:51:10.280] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003238)  
Yes, the agency, not the ARTA.

**[04:51:11.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003239)  
So, how does ARTA check kung totoo yung mga help desk na yun ay properly manned talaga?

**[04:51:17.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003240)  
Because they can always say, yung agency na yan or office na yan has established a help desk, but wala din pong tao yung help desk.

**[04:51:33.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003241)  
Yeah, I hear your frustration.

**[04:51:36.240] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003242)  
Actually, it's supposed to be under the law, agencies are all required to establish this ACD.

**[04:51:45.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003243)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:51:47.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003244)  
Yung tanong ko po, Sana, how do you ensure, meron bang routine inspection na ginagawa ang ARTA to ensure that hindi lang help desk kang nandodon?

**[04:51:59.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003245)  
Dapat po talaga may tao the whole day to receive complaints?

**[04:52:04.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003246)  
Actually, we have a compliance inspection and I'm sorry of what had happened.

**[04:52:14.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003247)  
Definitely, in the future, they will be doing that.

**[04:52:17.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003248)  
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:52:20.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003249)  
Also, have all agencies established the Committee on Anti-Red Tape or yung CART?

**[04:52:26.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003250)  
Lahat din po ba meron ng CART sa lahat ng opisina?

**[04:52:30.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003251)  
Ito po yung nag-I understand, yung nag-o-oversee po ng compliance with ARTA rules in each agency.

**[04:52:37.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003252)  
And if, actually, if they're not compliant, they will be liable.

**[04:52:40.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003253)  
As of the present, the compliance rate is 70%.

**[04:52:49.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003254)  
Ah, 70%. So, ano pa pong agency? So, madami-dami pa pong walang CART sa mga agencies nila.

**[04:52:58.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003255)  
So, what will we do in order to force them to establish the CART?

**[04:53:05.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003256)  
Because it is a mandate under the ease of doing business law.

**[04:53:10.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003257)  
They will be issued notices to explain.

**[04:53:22.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003258)  
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Madam Sponsor.

**[04:53:26.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003259)  
Meron na rin po ba, lahat din po bang agencies, meron ng Citizens Charter?

**[04:53:33.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003260)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:53:35.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003261)  
Have we issued...

**[04:53:38.240] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003262)  
98% compliance.

**[04:53:40.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003263)  
98%.

**[04:53:42.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003264)  
Have we ensured that of this 98% to have complied with the Citizens Charter requirement,

**[04:53:49.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003265)  
ay talaga pong sinusunod yung Citizens Charter?

**[04:53:53.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003266)  
Kasi pwede rin pong compliance lang.

**[04:53:55.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003267)  
So, how can ARTA find out? Do we find out which ones are just complying

**[04:54:01.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003268)  
or which ones are following the Citizens Charter to the letter?

**[04:54:05.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003269)  
Thank you.

**[04:54:10.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003270)  
We require them to submit annual updating of the compliance.

**[04:54:23.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003271)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:54:24.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003272)  
We conduct inspection also.

**[04:54:25.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003273)  
Madam Sponsor, pagdating naman po sa mga investigations and cases,

**[04:54:31.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003274)  
how many show cause orders or cases were initiated against agencies or airing officials that violated the ease of doing business law?

**[04:54:46.800] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003276)  
Okay.

**[04:54:48.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003277)  
ARTA investigated a total of 600 cases, Mr. Chair.

**[04:54:53.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003278)  
May mga naparusahan na po ba dito, na-file-an na ng mga kaso, katulad po ng mga airing officials?

**[04:55:01.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003279)  
Nag-translate na po ba yan sa tinatawag nating accountabilities?

**[04:55:06.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003280)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:55:07.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003281)  
We were able to

**[04:55:08.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003282)  
reach out to 373

**[04:55:11.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003283)  
total cases filed.

**[04:55:13.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003284)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair, Madam Sponsor.

**[04:55:17.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003285)  
Kasama po sa mandato, di ba po ng ARTA,

**[04:55:20.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003286)  
you can recommend to the agencies, no?

**[04:55:24.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003287)  
Pag nakita niyong may mali sa proseso,

**[04:55:26.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003288)  
sa sistema, napakatagal,

**[04:55:28.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003289)  
so you recommend, may recommendations kayong binibigay.

**[04:55:32.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003290)  
Ilan na po ang agencies na nabigyan ninyo ng rekomendasyon

**[04:55:35.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003291)  
at ilan ang actual na sumunod po doon sa rekomendasyon ninyo?

**[04:56:03.400] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003292)  
There's a whole of government reengineering systems

**[04:56:05.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003293)  
and procedures that are being done.

**[04:56:10.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003294)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair, Madam Sponsor.

**[04:56:14.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003295)  
Ilan na po, how many procedures were actually simplified ng ARTA

**[04:56:18.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003296)  
since its establishment?

**[04:56:35.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003297)  
Okay, for the TELCO,

**[04:56:45.240] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003298)  
required permits were reduced from 13 to 8,

**[04:56:50.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003299)  
and then documentary requirements reduced from 86 to 35.

**[04:56:55.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003300)  
Processing time shortened from 241 days to 16 days.

**[04:57:01.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003301)  
Approved telecommunications permit applications increased from 6,117

**[04:57:05.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003302)  
to 10,465 as of June 2026.

**[04:57:13.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003303)  
Fixed internet download speed improved from 93.96 Mbps to 102.79 Mbps for December 2025.

**[04:57:25.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003304)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[04:57:26.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003305)  
Yung parang reason for existence ng ARTA is very simple, di ba?

**[04:57:31.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003306)  
To simplify, to bureaucrat,

**[04:57:35.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003307)  
to reduce bureaucratic red tape.

**[04:57:38.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003308)  
In other words, parang pag-aanin ang buhay ng mga Pilipino

**[04:57:42.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003309)  
pag nakikipag-transact po sa mga opisina ng gobyerno.

**[04:57:45.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003310)  
Paano po natin? How do we measure din?

**[04:57:48.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003311)  
Ito, paano po natin nasusukat kung talagang naging effective yung ARTA sa trabaho nila?

**[04:57:53.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003312)  
Does that manifest in the cases being filed every year ba?

**[04:58:01.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003313)  
Bumaba ba? Does that mean konti na lang?

**[04:58:05.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003314)  
Ang mga dissatisfied sa transaction sa gobyerno?

**[04:58:23.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003315)  
We have a report card survey which serves as ARTA's mechanism for assessing compliance with the citizen's charter

**[04:58:32.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003316)  
and the service delivery requirements.

**[04:58:35.340] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003317)  
Using feedback from actual clients to evaluate efficiency, transparency and overall service performance.

**[04:58:42.160] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003318)  
Through random sampling and validation of agency compliance reports,

**[04:58:47.280] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003319)  
the report card survey identifies areas for improvement and supports evidence-based reforms

**[04:58:54.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003320)  
that help reduce red tape and enhance government services.

**[04:58:59.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003321)  
We also have the ARTA report card.

**[04:59:05.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003323)  
the harmonious clients

**[04:59:07.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003324)  
satisfaction measurement.

**[04:59:10.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003325)  
Thank you, Mr.

**[04:59:11.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003326)  
Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[04:59:13.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003327)  
Ito pong panghuling katanungan

**[04:59:15.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003328)  
na lamang po. Last

**[04:59:17.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003329)  
question. Since

**[04:59:19.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003330)  
the establishment po of ARTA

**[04:59:20.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003331)  
in 2018 under

**[04:59:23.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003332)  
RA 11032,

**[04:59:26.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003333)  
how

**[04:59:27.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003334)  
would you rate, on a scale

**[04:59:29.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003335)  
of 1 to 10, the agency's

**[04:59:31.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003336)  
overall effectiveness

**[04:59:32.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003337)  
in fulfilling its mandate

**[04:59:35.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003338)  
to improve the ease of doing business

**[04:59:37.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003339)  
and reduce bureaucratic

**[04:59:39.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003340)  
red tape in the Philippines?

**[04:59:43.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003341)  
1 to 10 rate? Okay lang naman po.

**[04:59:45.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003342)  
ARTA is a

**[04:59:46.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003343)  
bago pa lang naman po kayo.

**[04:59:49.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003344)  
You're what, 7 years? So

**[04:59:50.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003345)  
gusto ko lamang pong malaman.

**[04:59:52.840] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003346)  
Mr. Speaker, 9 out of

**[04:59:54.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003347)  
10. Wow, 9 out of 10

**[04:59:56.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003348)  
po ang self-rating ng ARTA.

**[05:00:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003349)  
So, yeah, it's a work in progress. Madami pa po tayong dapat gawin para mapagaan ang pagtatransact ng ating mga kababayan sa mga ahensya ng pamahalaan.

**[05:00:12.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003350)  
And Mr. Speaker, I would like to manifest my full support to the budget of ARTA dahil alam ko pong madami pa silang pwedeng gawin.

**[05:00:22.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003351)  
We have a lot of room for improvement and I challenge ARTA to do just that.

**[05:00:28.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-003352)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Speaker, thank you, Distinguished Sponsor. Thank you, ARTA.

**[05:00:34.720] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003353)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader?

**[05:00:36.660] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003354)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the sponsor, I move to recognize Representative Presley C. De Jesus of Partylist Filareka.

**[05:00:48.040] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003355)  
Representative Presley De Jesus is recognized. Please proceed.

**[05:00:50.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003356)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and to Distinguished Sponsor.

**[05:00:57.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003357)  
If he's...

**[05:00:58.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003358)  
If he wishes to wield some questions from this representation.

**[05:01:03.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003359)  
Thank you.

**[05:01:04.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003360)  
My topic will be the monitoring and evaluation of EBOS implementation.

**[05:01:09.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003361)  
My question, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, let us examine ARTA's primary operational line item,

**[05:01:21.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003362)  
the monitor and evaluate compliance to RA-11032 activity under the...

**[05:01:28.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003363)  
...of doing business and efficient delivery of government services program in fiscal year 2026.

**[05:01:35.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003364)  
This activity received 153 million.

**[05:01:41.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003365)  
In 2027 fiscal year, NEP, NEP, it drops to 91 million.

**[05:01:48.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003366)  
So there's a difference of 40 percent, no?

**[05:01:51.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003367)  
More critically, the activities, MOEs is lost from 77.8 percent,

**[05:01:57.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003368)  
from 90 million and to just 20 million in 2027.

**[05:02:05.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003369)  
Is this budget reduction consistent with ARTA's mandate to eliminate bureaucratic red tape?

**[05:02:18.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003370)  
Mr. Speaker, since 2019, ARTA has been actively capacitating LGUs

**[05:02:25.140] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003371)  
to the need to set up and operationalize...

**[05:02:27.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003372)  
...the electronic business, one-stop shop for the permits and licenses.

**[05:02:33.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003373)  
And this is being done in collaboration with the ICP.

**[05:02:38.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003374)  
Mr. Speaker, my question is about 2026 vis-a-vis to 2027 budget.

**[05:02:45.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003375)  
Masyado malaki yung ibinaba.

**[05:02:48.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003376)  
So let's concentrate from 2026 to 2027, wag na yung 2019, no?

**[05:02:53.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003377)  
So bakit bumaba ng ganito kalaki?

**[05:02:57.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003378)  
Ang inyong budget.

**[05:02:59.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003379)  
Ito ba'y inconsistent ho ba ito sa tinatawag natin to eradicate or eliminate bureaucratic red tape?

**[05:03:10.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003380)  
Gusto ko lang malaman bakit masyado binaba ng inyong budget.

**[05:03:14.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003381)  
Actually, Mr. Speaker, this reduction runs contrary to ARTA's direction of expanding its reach

**[05:03:22.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003382)  
and strengthening the implementation of Republic Act No. 11032.

**[05:03:27.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003383)  
The proposed cut...

**[05:03:27.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003384)  
...constraint ARTA's capacity to assist and capacitate government agencies in complying with the law

**[05:03:35.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003385)  
directly affecting its mandate to reduce, if not eliminate, red tape in government services.

**[05:03:41.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003386)  
In short, Mr. Speaker, with the reduced budget, so you cannot do your work properly,

**[05:03:49.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003387)  
ganun ba lumalabas dito?

**[05:03:51.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003388)  
Because, you know, anti-red tape is supposed to have more budget.

**[05:03:55.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003389)  
Now, because of this big cut...

**[05:03:57.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003390)  
So, you're telling me now, of course, not you, Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:04:04.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003391)  
the red tape cannot work properly with the reduced budget.

**[05:04:09.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003392)  
Yes.

**[05:04:09.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003393)  
Am I right?

**[05:04:10.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003394)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:04:11.680] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003395)  
It will also delay ongoing systems government intended to speed up complaints handling.

**[05:04:18.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003396)  
So, Mr. Speaker, so how come when they send your budget, you know, to DBM, and, of course, it has to be justified,

**[05:04:27.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003397)  
how come...

**[05:04:27.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003400)  
...how come you allow them, and it's not a small amount, it's a huge amount, from one...

**[05:04:34.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003401)  
...if I'm not mistaken, from 153 to 91 million.

**[05:04:40.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003402)  
So, there's a slush of over 60 million.

**[05:04:42.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003403)  
Actually, we are requesting to...

**[05:04:46.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003404)  
for an additional budget in the amount of 178,855,000.

**[05:04:52.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003405)  
Mr. Speaker, the rationale behind this one, that's why we're trying to...

**[05:04:57.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003406)  
...to make sure that the ARTA ay mapalakas natin, to make sure to eradicate, if not totally eradicating the red tape,

**[05:05:08.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003407)  
eh, at least, ma-minimize natin, no?

**[05:05:11.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003408)  
Kasi marami na hong mga foreign investors, pagpunta rito, that's the first problem.

**[05:05:16.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003409)  
They said that we don't want to do business in the Philippines because of the red tape.

**[05:05:22.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003410)  
Now, with the budget cut, nakatali ang dalawang kamay nyo.

**[05:05:27.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003411)  
Paano lang?

**[05:05:27.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003412)  
Huwag niyong pinalalakan nyo.

**[05:05:28.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003413)  
So, how can you do, perform properly pag gano'n?

**[05:05:33.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003414)  
So, I think, Mr. Speaker, kailangan natin to, during budget deliberation of the second reading,

**[05:05:40.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003415)  
kailangan natin palakasin ang hanay po ng ARTA.

**[05:05:44.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003416)  
Pag pababa kayo ng pababa, ibig sabihin, we are not in same wisdom na palakasin ARTA, kundi pababain pa.

**[05:05:52.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003417)  
So, definitely, we will support your budget for this, no?

**[05:05:55.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003418)  
Now, moving on.

**[05:05:57.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003419)  
Second, second interpolation.

**[05:06:01.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003420)  
In connection to this, Mr. Speaker, ARTA's accomplishment report shows that out of 1,634 LGUs nationwide,

**[05:06:13.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003421)  
only 127 LGUs, or 7.77%, were fully compliant with the electronic business one-stop shop.

**[05:06:23.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003422)  
Ito ang sinasabi ko yung e-boss.

**[05:06:24.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003423)  
We passed the law to make sure everybody follows.

**[05:06:27.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003424)  
Especially, LGU.

**[05:06:29.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003425)  
But the problem, mandate as of 2025, when we passed that, I remember that vividly because I was one of the co-author of this.

**[05:06:37.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003426)  
A total of 722 LGUs, or 44% were partly compliant.

**[05:06:43.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003427)  
544 LGUs, or 33% had no e-boss, no?

**[05:06:49.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003428)  
They didn't follow.

**[05:06:50.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003429)  
And 243 LGUs, or 14% made no submission.

**[05:06:55.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003430)  
With over 92%.

**[05:06:57.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003431)  
92% of LGUs not fully compliant with ARTA's plan to bring these remaining LGUs into full e-boss compliance.

**[05:07:06.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003432)  
And what target number of LGUs does after expect to achieve by the end of 2037?

**[05:07:13.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003433)  
Ano nangyari sa ating ARTA?

**[05:07:16.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003434)  
You know, out of 1,634 LGUs, 127 yung fully compliant.

**[05:07:23.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003435)  
So, what does ARTA's...

**[05:07:24.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003436)  
Anong ginagawa ng ARTA?

**[05:07:27.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003437)  
Pag ganito lang yung atin.

**[05:07:28.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003438)  
I'm talking about 20, ano to ha?

**[05:07:31.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003439)  
2025.

**[05:07:32.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003440)  
Back then, ang budget nyo malaki pa.

**[05:07:36.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003441)  
Go ahead.

**[05:07:37.600] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003442)  
Mr. Speaker, since 2019, ARTA's been actively capacitating LGUs.

**[05:07:42.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003443)  
On the need to set up an operationalize the electronic business one-stop shop for the permits and licenses.

**[05:07:49.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003444)  
And this is being done in collaboration with ICT.

**[05:07:52.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003445)  
What was I said earlier, kanina, no?

**[05:07:54.340] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003446)  
However, there are other factors that we'll have to consider.

**[05:07:57.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003447)  
In the setting up of an e-boss, such as internet infrastructure, which is very important,

**[05:08:03.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003448)  
manpower capacity, and budget to procure necessary equipment, software, and hiring of IT personnel.

**[05:08:11.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003449)  
Other systems separately developed, such as EFIS of the BFP,

**[05:08:17.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003450)  
will also have to be integrated to have a seamless end-to-end processing of permits and licenses.

**[05:08:23.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003451)  
To bring the remaining LGUs into full e-boss,

**[05:08:27.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003452)  
compliance, ARTA is continuously working with BFP for the integration of their system,

**[05:08:34.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003453)  
and closely monitor the development phase of LGUs through the e-boss monitoring report that is regularly updated by the LGUs.

**[05:08:43.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003454)  
For 2027, ARTA will endeavor to have 1,300 e-boss fully compliant LGUs that are located in the regions.

**[05:08:54.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003455)  
Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

**[05:08:57.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003456)  
how much is your budget in 2025?

**[05:09:20.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003457)  
Okay, for 2025, the budget was

**[05:09:23.560] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003458)  
493 million

**[05:09:27.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003459)  
514,359.

**[05:09:32.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003460)  
So, ito, back then, 2025, malaki na budget niyo,

**[05:09:37.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003461)  
and the e-boss 2019 niyo pa inistart yan,

**[05:09:41.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003462)  
but only 100,

**[05:09:43.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003463)  
it's not even fully compliant, but

**[05:09:46.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003464)  
today, with the meager budget

**[05:09:48.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003465)  
of 97 million

**[05:09:50.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003466)  
for 2027,

**[05:09:52.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003467)  
so how can you accomplish

**[05:09:54.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003468)  
that all 1,600 LGUs,

**[05:09:57.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003469)  
will be compliant

**[05:09:59.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003470)  
by the 2026,

**[05:10:01.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003471)  
or 2027?

**[05:10:02.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003472)  
Kasi, kulang na yung budget niyo eh.

**[05:10:04.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003473)  
So, paano niyo mapapagalaw yan?

**[05:10:09.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003474)  
Again, Mr. Speaker, I'm not blaming ARTAs dito, especially Director General Perez, no?

**[05:10:13.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003475)  
Because, hindi niyo talaga, ang kamay niyo tali kung wala kayong pondo.

**[05:10:18.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003476)  
Sabi nga nila, ang sasakyan, hindi naman under yan kung hindi gosalina, walang karga.

**[05:10:25.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003477)  
Kung gosalina niyo, kalahati, half gallon, half full tank,

**[05:10:29.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003478)  
kalahati lang, eh, hanggang doon lang kayo.

**[05:10:31.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003479)  
So, ano mangyayari sa atin?

**[05:10:33.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003480)  
Kasi, I'm very concerned.

**[05:10:35.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003481)  
Remember, e-boss is a seamless

**[05:10:38.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003482)  
law na dapat mabilis na

**[05:10:40.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003483)  
para maging compliant.

**[05:10:42.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003484)  
Actually, Mr. Speaker, we are appealing for

**[05:10:45.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003485)  
the additional budget

**[05:10:47.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003486)  
for 2027 in the amount

**[05:10:49.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003487)  
of 178,855,000.

**[05:10:53.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003488)  
And, um,

**[05:10:55.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003489)  
and this will be

**[05:10:59.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003490)  
for the

**[05:11:01.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003491)  
ARTAs-K digitalization projects, including the enhancement

**[05:11:07.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003492)  
and expansion of the electronic complaints management system,

**[05:11:11.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003493)  
the Philippine Business Regulations Information System,

**[05:11:14.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003494)  
and other digital platforms

**[05:11:17.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003495)  
that streamline government transactions and improve service delivery.

**[05:11:21.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003496)  
It will also support regional transactions,

**[05:11:24.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003497)  
monitoring and enforcement activities,

**[05:11:27.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003498)  
and public awareness initiatives.

**[05:11:29.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003499)  
These investments are essential

**[05:11:31.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003500)  
to sustain ease of doing business reforms

**[05:11:34.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003501)  
and expand their benefits

**[05:11:36.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003502)  
to businesses and citizens nationwide.

**[05:11:40.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003503)  
Thank you, uh, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:11:42.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003504)  
Madam Sponsor.

**[05:11:43.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003505)  
Now, I'll go to Nehemia.

**[05:11:45.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003506)  
Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

**[05:11:47.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003507)  
ARTA is tasked under Program Nehemia

**[05:11:50.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003508)  
or National Effort for the Harmonization of Epidemiology,

**[05:11:52.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003509)  
for the harmonization of efficiency measures

**[05:11:55.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003510)  
of interrelated agencies

**[05:11:58.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003511)  
to streamline regulation across key economic sectors,

**[05:12:04.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003512)  
including housing, telecommunications,

**[05:12:08.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003513)  
water supply and wastewater,

**[05:12:11.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003514)  
responsible mining, semiconductors,

**[05:12:14.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003515)  
and to establish sector-specific one-stop shops.

**[05:12:19.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003516)  
How many of these sectoral streamlining initiatives

**[05:12:22.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003517)  
and one-stop shops

**[05:12:24.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003518)  
are already operational?

**[05:12:26.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003519)  
What regulatory processes

**[05:12:29.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003520)  
have been simplified

**[05:12:31.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003521)  
and what remains to be completed

**[05:12:33.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003522)  
by fiscal year 2027?

**[05:12:36.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003523)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:12:38.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003524)  
the Nehemia sectors

**[05:12:40.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003525)  
are at the different stages of implementation.

**[05:12:43.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003526)  
Telecommunication is the most mature

**[05:12:46.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003527)  
and already has implemented streamlining reforms,

**[05:12:49.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003528)  
while the sector-specific one-stop shops

**[05:12:52.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003529)  
for housing,

**[05:12:54.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003530)  
infrastructure,

**[05:12:55.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003531)  
flagship projects,

**[05:12:56.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003532)  
responsible mining,

**[05:12:58.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003533)  
and ship building,

**[05:12:59.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003534)  
and ship repair

**[05:13:00.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003535)  
are at the various stages of rollout or development.

**[05:13:03.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003536)  
For telecommunications,

**[05:13:05.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003537)  
the reforms are already producing measurable results.

**[05:13:09.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003538)  
Under Executive Order No. 32,

**[05:13:12.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003539)  
required permits were reduced from 13 to 8,

**[05:13:16.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003540)  
documentary requirements from 86 to 35,

**[05:13:19.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003541)  
and reported turnaround time

**[05:13:21.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003542)  
from 241 days to 16 days.

**[05:13:24.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003543)  
Approved telecommunications permits

**[05:13:27.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003544)  
were also increased

**[05:13:29.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003545)  
from 6,117 in 2022

**[05:13:32.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003546)  
to 10,465 as of June 2026.

**[05:13:37.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003547)  
For housing, Mr. Chair,

**[05:13:39.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003548)  
the streamlined regulatory framework

**[05:13:42.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003549)  
has already been institutionalized

**[05:13:44.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003550)  
through the Joint Memorandum Circular

**[05:13:47.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003551)  
finalized by 15 national government agencies

**[05:13:50.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003552)  
in June 2026.

**[05:13:52.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003553)  
The next phase is implementation,

**[05:13:55.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003554)  
including the rollout of the

**[05:13:57.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003555)  
Electronic Housing One-Stop Processing Center,

**[05:14:00.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003556)  
or EHOPC,

**[05:14:03.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003557)  
data sharing mechanisms,

**[05:14:05.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003558)  
and the One Map System.

**[05:14:07.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003559)  
For construction permit,

**[05:14:09.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003560)  
ARTA is implementing Executive Order No. 59

**[05:14:13.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003561)  
to streamline permits

**[05:14:14.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003562)  
for infrastructure flagship projects.

**[05:14:17.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003563)  
ARTA is now working with

**[05:14:18.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003564)  
the Office of the Executive Order

**[05:14:20.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003565)  
and the Executive Secretary,

**[05:14:22.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003566)  
DepDev, the ICT,

**[05:14:24.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003567)  
and DOE on the framework,

**[05:14:26.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003568)  
road map,

**[05:14:27.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003569)  
and technical architecture

**[05:14:29.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003570)  
for the IFC one-stop shop.

**[05:14:32.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003571)  
The target is to pilot the OSS

**[05:14:35.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003572)  
for physical connectivity,

**[05:14:37.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003573)  
physical connectivity,

**[05:14:38.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003574)  
IFS in fiscal year 2027,

**[05:14:42.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003575)  
with priority given to projects

**[05:14:44.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003576)  
already approved

**[05:14:45.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003577)  
or outgoing government approval

**[05:14:47.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003578)  
where permitting reforms are expected

**[05:14:49.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003579)  
to have the greatest impact.

**[05:14:51.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003580)  
For responsible mining,

**[05:14:53.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003581)  
ARTA is working with DENR

**[05:14:56.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003582)  
and the concerned regulatory offices

**[05:14:58.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003583)  
to streamline the initial stage of

**[05:15:00.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003584)  
of mining-related processes exploration stage

**[05:15:03.340] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003585)  
and develop the electronic mining one-stop shop or EMOS

**[05:15:07.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003586)  
through the issuance of the JNC.

**[05:15:11.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003587)  
ADB technical assistance from September 2026 to August 2027

**[05:15:16.240] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003588)  
will complement this work by reviewing and harmonizing the other stages

**[05:15:21.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003589)  
of the mining regulatory lifecycle, development and construction,

**[05:15:26.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003590)  
utilization, commercial operation, and decommissioning rehabilitation stages.

**[05:15:34.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003591)  
The objective for fiscal year 2027 is to advance both the streamlined processes

**[05:15:40.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003592)  
and their digital integration through EMOS.

**[05:15:44.920] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003593)  
For logistics, particularly shipbuilding and ship repair,

**[05:15:49.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003594)  
ARTA and Marina are finalizing a joint memorandum circular

**[05:15:53.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003595)  
targeted for issuance in October 2026.

**[05:15:56.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003596)  
The JNC shall provide for the streamlining, digitalization,

**[05:16:02.940] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003597)  
and interoperability of the SBSR license to operate, LTO,

**[05:16:08.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003598)  
process to the simplified and consolidated requirements

**[05:16:11.720] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003599)  
and establishment of a SBSR one-stop shop

**[05:16:15.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003600)  
with transition to an electronic OSS to the Marina BEST system.

**[05:16:20.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003601)  
It shall likewise support investment, facilitation, and workforce development

**[05:16:26.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003604)  
to an SBSR investor information package and coordinated training initiatives

**[05:16:32.920] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003605)  
and strengthen governance and stakeholder coordination with an SBSR technical working group

**[05:16:39.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003606)  
chaired by Marina with ARTA as co-chair,

**[05:16:43.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003607)  
supported mechanism for monitoring, feedback, and periodic review.

**[05:16:49.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003608)  
Therefore, Mr. Chair, the work for fiscal year 2027 is primarily about operationalization.

**[05:16:56.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003609)  
Sustaining the already implemented telecommunications reforms, rolling out EHOPC for housing, developing and piloting the IFC one-stop shop,

**[05:17:09.620] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003610)  
advancing EMOS for responsible mining, and implementing shipbuilding and ship repair reforms and MARINA BEST.

**[05:17:18.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003611)  
These are also the implementation activities that the additional funding discussed

**[05:17:26.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003616)  
earlier is intended to sustain.

**[05:17:28.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003617)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:17:30.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003618)  
Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

**[05:17:32.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003619)  
I have more questions but

**[05:17:34.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003620)  
it's already anchored

**[05:17:35.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003621)  
to the E-Boss so

**[05:17:37.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003622)  
with the meager budget, I don't think we

**[05:17:40.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003623)  
can continue my line of

**[05:17:42.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003624)  
questioning but at the same time, I'm appealing

**[05:17:44.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003625)  
to our committee of appropriation

**[05:17:46.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003626)  
to put more money

**[05:17:47.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003627)  
on your budget. Paano nyo matatrabaho

**[05:17:50.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003628)  
nga na may ginagawa nyo?

**[05:17:52.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003629)  
Mr. Speaker, before I end my

**[05:17:53.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003630)  
interpolation, please,

**[05:17:56.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003631)  
let's put more money sa ARTA kung gusto

**[05:17:58.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003632)  
natin mawala ang red tape. Again,

**[05:18:00.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003633)  
maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:18:02.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-003634)  
Madam Sponsor, and to ARTA's family.

**[05:18:04.640] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003635)  
Thank you very much.

**[05:18:06.180] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003636)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader?

**[05:18:08.160] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003637)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate,

**[05:18:10.520] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003638)  
I move that we recognize

**[05:18:12.080] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003639)  
Representative Sergio Dagooc

**[05:18:13.800] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003640)  
of Partylist APEC.

**[05:18:15.680] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003641)  
Representative Sergio Dagooc is recognized.

**[05:18:19.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003642)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:18:20.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003643)  
Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[05:18:23.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003644)  
Magandang

**[05:18:23.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003645)  
gabi po sa ating

**[05:18:26.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003646)  
lahat, especially to

**[05:18:28.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003647)  
the sponsor, my colleague.

**[05:18:31.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003648)  
Would the distinguished sponsor

**[05:18:32.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003649)  
yield to

**[05:18:33.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003650)  
only one issue.

**[05:18:40.080] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003651)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:18:42.100] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003652)  
Thank you,

**[05:18:43.680] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003653)  
distinct sponsor.

**[05:18:45.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003654)  
May data ba si

**[05:18:47.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003655)  
ARTA?

**[05:18:50.780] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003656)  
Ilang

**[05:18:51.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003657)  
applicants na

**[05:18:53.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003658)  
magtatayo ng power plant

**[05:18:56.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003659)  
na natulungan ninyo mapabilis

**[05:18:58.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003660)  
ang permitting?

**[05:19:03.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003661)  
We have no data, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:19:05.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003662)  
You have no data.

**[05:19:07.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003663)  
So, mayroon bang mga

**[05:19:09.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003664)  
nagkokonstruct ng planta,

**[05:19:14.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003665)  
mga generating companies na

**[05:19:16.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003666)  
lumapit sa opisina ninyo

**[05:19:19.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003667)  
para magpatulong

**[05:19:21.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003668)  
na mapabilis yung permitting?

**[05:19:32.720] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003672)  
Based

**[05:19:33.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003673)  
on

**[05:19:34.720] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003674)  
joint memorandum

**[05:19:36.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003675)  
circular on energy

**[05:19:37.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003676)  
infra projects,

**[05:19:39.840] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003677)  
there was an increase of

**[05:19:41.080] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003678)  
71.7%

**[05:19:42.800] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003679)  
in permit issued.

**[05:19:45.240] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003680)  
2025, it was 1,429.

**[05:19:47.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003681)  
For 2026,

**[05:19:49.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003682)  
it was 2,454.

**[05:19:53.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003683)  
Ganito na,

**[05:19:53.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003684)  
Mayroon na lang, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[05:19:59.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003685)  
Nagkaproblema tayo sa Visayas, Mindanao, mga yellow at saka red alert.

**[05:20:06.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003686)  
One of the reasons is that pag nagtayo ka ng planta, it will take you 5 to 7 years.

**[05:20:14.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003687)  
Pero ang pagtayo ng planta mismo, tatlong taon lang po yun.

**[05:20:18.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003688)  
Yung tatlong taon, permitting po.

**[05:20:20.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003689)  
So, may I just request an appeal to ARTA, kasi alam naman ninyo yung mandato ninyo, bakit kayo na-create,

**[05:20:30.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003690)  
kindly sit up a unit that will coordinate directly with the Department of Energy, Energy Regulatory Commission.

**[05:20:42.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003691)  
Makita ninyo doon sino yung mga binigyan ni DOE ng service contract.

**[05:20:50.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003692)  
Para magtayo ng mga planta, different types of technology, mga ano ba yan, coal, not gas, renewable, doon ninyo makita.

**[05:21:02.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003693)  
So, huwag na kayong maghintay na lalapit pa yung mga nagtatayo ng planta sa inyo.

**[05:21:11.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003694)  
Tanongin nyo na, wala ba kayong problema sa EBOS, wala ba kayong problema sa permitting, i-assist nyo na.

**[05:21:18.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003695)  
Kasi kailangan natin yun.

**[05:21:20.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003696)  
Kasi naghahabol tayo, we are inviting investors, nag-put up ng mga businesses.

**[05:21:27.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003697)  
Every investor na magtayo dito, may kaakibat po yan na pangangailangan ng kuryente.

**[05:21:34.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003698)  
Ngayon kung hindi tayo mabilis magtayo ng planta dahil sa permitting process na more than 160 plus na permits bago ka makapagtayo ng planta.

**[05:21:46.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003699)  
So, ma-assist man lang ninyo para mapabilis natin.

**[05:21:50.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003700)  
Hindi na tayo magkaroon ng yellow, red alert, rotating brownouts, then every time mangyari yan, tataas po yung presyo ng kuryente.

**[05:21:59.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003701)  
Automatic po yan, tataas.

**[05:22:01.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003702)  
Pati po kayo dito sa Metro Manila, sa bahay ninyo, lalaki, tataas po yung babayaran ninyo.

**[05:22:06.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003703)  
Kaya, turungan natin ang ating sarili kasi yan yung trabaho ninyo, mapabilis para maraming planta, maraming supply, bababa po yung presyo.

**[05:22:18.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003704)  
Can the ARTA commit on that?

**[05:22:23.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003705)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:22:25.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003706)  
So, maraming salamat ARTA, thank you Distinguished Sponsor.

**[05:22:29.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003707)  
Thank you Mr. Speaker.

**[05:22:31.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003708)  
So, Mr. Speaker, there being no other members from the minority who wanted to interpolate the budget of ARTA,

**[05:22:41.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003709)  
I move to terminate the period of interpellation and debate on the budget of ARTA

**[05:22:47.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003710)  
for fiscal year 2027.

**[05:22:50.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-003711)  
So move, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:22:51.780] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003712)  
Thank you very much. What does the House say?

**[05:22:54.660] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003713)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:22:56.820] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003714)  
the majority joins the minority

**[05:22:59.820] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003715)  
in the motion to terminate

**[05:23:01.920] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003716)  
the proposed budget of the

**[05:23:04.220] Rep. Ernesto "Ernix" Dionisio Jr.** (asr-003717)  
anti-red tape.

**[05:23:07.920] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003718)  
There is a joint motion to terminate

**[05:23:10.020] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003719)  
the interpolations in the proposed budget

**[05:23:11.860] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003720)  
of the anti-red tape authority.

**[05:23:13.760] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003721)  
Is there any objection?

**[05:23:15.460] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003722)  
Chair, here's none.

**[05:23:17.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003723)  
The motion is approved.

**[05:23:19.120] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003724)  
The interpolations in the proposed budget

**[05:23:21.160] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003725)  
of the anti-red tape authority

**[05:23:23.120] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003726)  
is hereby terminated.

**[05:23:24.860] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003727)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:23:47.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003728)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:23:49.080] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003729)  
I move to consider

**[05:23:50.340] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003730)  
the proposed budget of

**[05:23:52.340] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003731)  
the Anti-Money Laundering

**[05:23:54.960] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003732)  
Council.

**[05:23:58.120] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003733)  
Is there any objection?

**[05:23:59.540] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003734)  
Chair, here's none. The motion is approved.

**[05:24:01.700] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003735)  
The majority leader.

**[05:24:03.480] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003736)  
Mr. Speaker, may we

**[05:24:05.320] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003737)  
acknowledge the heads of the

**[05:24:07.160] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003738)  
Office of the Anti-Money

**[05:24:09.100] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003739)  
Laundering Council.

**[05:24:11.200] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003740)  
Attorney Ronel

**[05:24:12.580] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003741)  
Buenaventura, the Executive Director.

**[05:24:16.480] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003742)  
Attorney

**[05:24:17.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003743)  
Reyes Santos Mendoza,

**[05:24:19.940] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003744)  
Director.

**[05:24:21.580] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003745)  
Attorney Emmet Rodion

**[05:24:23.780] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003746)  
Manantan, Director.

**[05:24:25.640] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003747)  
Attorney Arnold T.

**[05:24:27.760] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003748)  
Cabanlit, Director.

**[05:24:30.020] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003749)  
Attorney Andrew Cruz, Deputy

**[05:24:31.680] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003750)  
Chief of Staff.

**[05:24:33.140] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003751)  
Maria Liza Rizal Cruz,

**[05:24:35.720] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003752)  
Manager.

**[05:24:36.900] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003753)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials

**[05:24:39.740] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003754)  
of the Anti-Money Laundering Council

**[05:24:41.860] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003755)  
headed by Attorney Ronel Buenaventura.

**[05:24:44.980] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003756)  
Welcome to the House

**[05:24:45.800] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003757)  
of Representatives.

**[05:24:47.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003758)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:24:51.580] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003759)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that

**[05:24:53.620] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003760)  
we open the period of

**[05:24:55.140] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003761)  
sponsorship and debate.

**[05:24:58.240] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003762)  
Is there any objection?

**[05:24:59.380] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003763)  
Chair, here's none. Motion is approved.

**[05:25:01.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003764)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:25:02.720] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003765)  
I move that we recognize the

**[05:25:05.200] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003766)  
Honorable Vice

**[05:25:07.380] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003767)  
Chair Maria Isabel

**[05:25:09.160] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003768)  
Sagarbarria,

**[05:25:11.640] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003769)  
Vice Chairperson

**[05:25:14.080] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003770)  
of the Committee on Appropriation

**[05:25:15.680] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003771)  
to sponsor the

**[05:25:17.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003772)  
proposed budget

**[05:25:18.200] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003773)  
of the Anti-Money Laundering Council.

**[05:25:22.200] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003774)  
Vice Chair, Honorable

**[05:25:23.440] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003775)  
Isabel Sagarbarria is recognized.

**[05:25:25.860] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003776)  
Once again, please proceed.

**[05:25:28.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003777)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished

**[05:25:29.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003778)  
guests, it is my honor

**[05:25:31.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003779)  
and privilege to sponsor the proposed

**[05:25:33.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003780)  
budget of the Anti-Money

**[05:25:35.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003781)  
Laundering Council under

**[05:25:37.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003782)  
the House Bill No. 10858

**[05:25:39.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003783)  
or the Fiscal Year

**[05:25:41.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003784)  
2027 General Appropriations

**[05:25:43.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003785)  
Bill amounting to

**[05:25:44.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003786)  
144,870,000.

**[05:25:47.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003787)  
The Anti-Money

**[05:25:49.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003788)  
Laundering Council

**[05:25:51.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003789)  
as a hybrid financial intelligence

**[05:25:53.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003790)  
unit carries

**[05:25:55.640] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003791)  
out responsibility that extends

**[05:25:57.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003792)  
well beyond its core mandate.

**[05:26:00.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003793)  
It monitors

**[05:26:00.840] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003794)  
the compliance of

**[05:26:02.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003795)  
covered persons with the Anti-Money Laundering

**[05:26:05.520] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003796)  
Act of 2001

**[05:26:07.080] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003797)  
and its implementing rules.

**[05:26:10.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003798)  
It is likewise mandated

**[05:26:11.560] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003799)  
to investigate money laundering

**[05:26:13.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003800)  
and terrorism financing

**[05:26:15.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003801)  
and to seek the freezing

**[05:26:17.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003802)  
and forfeiture of the

**[05:26:19.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003803)  
proceeds of crime.

**[05:26:20.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003804)  
A significant portion of the proposed

**[05:26:22.880] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003805)  
budget is dedicated

**[05:26:24.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003806)  
to information and communication

**[05:26:27.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003807)  
technology.

**[05:26:28.920] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003808)  
The AMLC's

**[05:26:30.440] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003809)  
in-house artificial

**[05:26:32.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003810)  
intelligence capability

**[05:26:34.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003811)  
which analyzes reports

**[05:26:36.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003812)  
within our own borders

**[05:26:38.520] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003813)  
and a blockchain

**[05:26:39.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003814)  
analytic platform

**[05:26:42.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003815)  
to trace laundering through

**[05:26:44.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003816)  
cryptocurrency.

**[05:26:46.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003821)  
By harnessing

**[05:26:48.140] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003822)  
modern technology,

**[05:26:49.160] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003823)  
we bolster the AMLC's

**[05:26:51.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003824)  
ability to detect,

**[05:26:52.620] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003825)  
investigate,

**[05:26:53.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003826)  
and prosecute

**[05:26:54.680] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003827)  
these crimes.

**[05:26:56.150] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003828)  
Through this,

**[05:26:57.280] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003829)  
we safeguard the integrity

**[05:26:58.680] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003830)  
of financial system

**[05:26:59.940] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003831)  
and foster an environment

**[05:27:01.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003832)  
that promotes

**[05:27:01.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003833)  
sustainable economic growth

**[05:27:04.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003834)  
for the Filipino people.

**[05:27:06.140] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003835)  
In view of the foregoing,

**[05:27:07.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003836)  
I respectfully seek

**[05:27:08.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003837)  
the support of the

**[05:27:09.620] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003838)  
Honorable House

**[05:27:10.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003839)  
for the proposed

**[05:27:11.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003840)  
Fiscal Year 2027

**[05:27:13.080] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003841)  
budget of the

**[05:27:14.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003842)  
Anti-Money Laundering Council.

**[05:27:16.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003843)  
Thank you,

**[05:27:17.160] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003844)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[05:27:18.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003849)  
This representation

**[05:27:19.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003850)  
is now ready

**[05:27:20.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003851)  
to answer questions

**[05:27:21.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-003852)  
from our colleagues.

**[05:27:23.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003853)  
Thank you very much.

**[05:27:24.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003854)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:27:27.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003855)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:27:28.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003856)  
I move that we recognize

**[05:27:30.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003857)  
Honorable Rene Coe

**[05:27:32.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003858)  
from the Kabataan Party List

**[05:27:35.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003859)  
to interpolate

**[05:27:36.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003860)  
on the proposed budget

**[05:27:37.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003861)  
of the Anti-Money

**[05:27:38.360] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-003862)  
Laundering Council.

**[05:27:40.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003863)  
Representative Rene Coe

**[05:27:42.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003864)  
is recognized.

**[05:27:43.360] Deputy Speaker Vincent Franco "Duke" D. Frasco** (asr-003865)  
Please proceed.

**[05:27:44.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003866)  
Thank you,

**[05:27:45.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003867)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:27:46.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003868)  
and good evening

**[05:27:47.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003869)  
to our distinguished

**[05:27:48.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003870)  
sponsor.

**[05:27:49.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003871)  
Will the distinguished

**[05:27:50.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003872)  
sponsor yield

**[05:27:51.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003873)  
to a few questions

**[05:27:52.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003874)  
in relation to

**[05:27:53.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003875)  
AMLC's budget?

**[05:27:59.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003876)  
Thank you,

**[05:27:59.638] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003877)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[05:28:01.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003878)  
Maglalatag lang po ako

**[05:28:02.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003879)  
ng maikling konteksto

**[05:28:04.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003880)  
bago po mag-proceed.

**[05:28:05.958] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003881)  
Before I proceed

**[05:28:06.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003882)  
with my questions,

**[05:28:08.638] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003883)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[05:28:10.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003884)  
In 2021,

**[05:28:11.718] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003885)  
the Securities

**[05:28:12.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003886)  
and Exchange

**[05:28:13.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003887)  
Commission

**[05:28:14.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003888)  
released

**[05:28:15.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003889)  
the SEC

**[05:28:16.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003890)  
2021

**[05:28:17.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003891)  
Nonprofit

**[05:28:18.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003892)  
Organization

**[05:28:18.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003893)  
or NPO

**[05:28:19.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003894)  
Terrorist Financing

**[05:28:21.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003895)  
Sector Risk

**[05:28:22.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003896)  
Assessment.

**[05:28:23.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003905)  
This SEC

**[05:28:24.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003906)  
report says

**[05:28:25.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003907)  
that information

**[05:28:26.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003908)  
on cases

**[05:28:27.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003909)  
detected,

**[05:28:28.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003910)  
investigated,

**[05:28:29.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003911)  
and prosecuted

**[05:28:30.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003912)  
was collected

**[05:28:31.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003913)  
from AMLC's

**[05:28:32.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003914)  
financial analysis,

**[05:28:34.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003915)  
investigation,

**[05:28:35.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003916)  
and legal groups.

**[05:28:37.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003917)  
The 2021

**[05:28:38.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003918)  
Terrorist Financing

**[05:28:39.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003919)  
Sector Risk

**[05:28:40.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003920)  
Assessment

**[05:28:41.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003921)  
publicly reported

**[05:28:42.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003922)  
SEC-registered

**[05:28:43.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003923)  
NPO

**[05:28:44.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003924)  
under

**[05:28:45.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003925)  
different

**[05:28:46.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003926)  
classifications

**[05:28:47.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003927)  
covered within

**[05:28:48.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003928)  
the scope

**[05:28:49.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003929)  
of the

**[05:28:50.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003930)  
assessment,

**[05:28:51.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003931)  
which are

**[05:28:52.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003932)  
foundations

**[05:28:53.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003933)  
,

**[05:28:54.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003934)  
religious

**[05:28:55.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003935)  
organizations

**[05:28:56.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003936)  
,

**[05:28:57.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003937)  
education

**[05:28:58.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003938)  
providers,

**[05:28:59.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003939)  
other

**[05:29:00.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003940)  
service

**[05:29:01.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003941)  
NPO's

**[05:29:02.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003942)  
including

**[05:29:03.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003943)  
parent-teacher,

**[05:29:04.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003944)  
livelihood

**[05:29:05.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003945)  
and neighborhood

**[05:29:06.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003946)  
associations,

**[05:29:07.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003947)  
and other

**[05:29:08.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003948)  
expressive

**[05:29:09.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003949)  
NPO's

**[05:29:10.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003950)  
political,

**[05:29:11.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003951)  
environmental,

**[05:29:12.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003952)  
alumni,

**[05:29:13.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003953)  
cultural,

**[05:29:14.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003954)  
and

**[05:29:15.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003955)  
economic

**[05:29:16.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003956)  
organizations.

**[05:29:17.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003957)  
I would like to ask questions

**[05:29:19.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003958)  
regarding anonymized and aggregated

**[05:29:21.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003959)  
statistical information,

**[05:29:23.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003960)  
and not specifically individual STRs,

**[05:29:26.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003961)  
account numbers, and other protected

**[05:29:29.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003962)  
customer information, as a caveat,

**[05:29:31.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003963)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:29:34.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003964)  
My first question would be:

**[05:29:36.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003965)  
Can the distinguished sponsor provide

**[05:29:39.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003966)  
through AMLC how many foundations,

**[05:29:43.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003967)  
religious organizations, education providers,

**[05:29:47.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003968)  
other service NPOs and other expressive NPOs

**[05:29:51.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-003969)  
that exist currently, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[05:30:24.400] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004001)  
First, the accreditation of NGOs falls within the mandate of DSWD,

**[05:30:30.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004002)  
Not AMLC.

**[05:30:33.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004003)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to clarify, SEC released a terrorist financing sector risk assessment.

**[05:30:42.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004004)  
Apparently, it is created because of AMLC's financial analysis.

**[05:30:49.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004005)  
So now we'd like to ask that the report or the assessment covers certain SEC-registered NPO's.

**[05:30:58.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004006)  
We assume that the AMLC had the opportunity to know the scope, the number of NPO's they identified to be vulnerable to terrorist financing.

**[05:31:15.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004007)  
Which is why we're asking, is the AMLC aware how many foundations, religious organizations, education providers, other service NPO's and other expressive NPO's that exist?

**[05:31:28.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004008)  
To us, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, this is requisite information that hopefully the AMLC had the opportunity to check, assess before they gave their findings to the SEC.

**[05:31:43.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004009)  
Mr. Speaker, currently we have no data. We will be submitting to the office because the studies are still undergoing.

**[05:31:55.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004010)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we look forward.

**[05:31:58.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004011)  
We look forward to the submission of data from the AMLC for this year.

**[05:32:02.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004012)  
But can we also add the records of AMLC from the previous years?

**[05:32:10.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004013)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:32:11.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004014)  
We'd like to maybe up until 2021 or 2020, which is when the AMLC provided that data and then afterwards submitted this report.

**[05:32:23.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004015)  
We'll do that, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:32:25.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004016)  
Okay.

**[05:32:27.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004017)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:32:28.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004018)  
Mr. Speaker, has there been any change in the definitions and classifications used?

**[05:32:38.920] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004019)  
Ma'am, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:32:40.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004020)  
So there's been no change.

**[05:32:43.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004021)  
The different definitions of the NPO's that I enumerated earlier, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, which the SEC defined and uses,

**[05:32:55.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004022)  
is also the definition that the AMLC is operating.

**[05:32:58.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004023)  
Is this correct, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[05:33:02.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004024)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, it's correct.

**[05:33:05.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004025)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, does the AMLC, therefore, systematically assess the effects of its measures on legitimate humanitarian development, human rights, research, advocacy, and other civil society activity?

**[05:33:22.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004026)  
There's been no change in the definition.

**[05:33:24.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004027)  
We're waiting for the data on the amount, on the number of NPO's.

**[05:33:28.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004028)  
That it has.

**[05:33:30.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004029)  
But because the data came from AMLC, which the SEC used to create this report, this report has an effect on the operations of these NPO's or NPO's in general,

**[05:33:47.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004030)  
given that the SEC, with the data of AMLC, tags them as vulnerable, so to speak.

**[05:33:53.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004031)  
So may I ask, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, has the AMLC, or

**[05:33:58.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004032)  
does the AMLC systematically assess the effects of its measures in the activities of these NPO's?

**[05:34:06.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004033)  
Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:34:07.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004034)  
If so, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, can we know the indicators and findings that the AMLC has to check the effects of its measures on the legitimate humanitarian development, human rights, and other civil society activity?

**[05:34:54.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004036)  
Our AMLC, Counterterrorism Financing Laws, are primarily directed against terrorists,

**[05:34:57.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004037)  
and those who finance terrorism.

**[05:35:00.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004041)  
NGOs that receive donations, deliver humanitarian assistance, maintain bank accounts, work with communities,

**[05:35:09.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004042)  
and safeguard the personnel and beneficiaries should not be unduly concerned that their legitimate activities will be affected or targeted under these laws.

**[05:35:20.440] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004043)  
Insofar as the AMLC is concerned, its actions are evidence-based.

**[05:35:25.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004044)  
The AMLC conducts...

**[05:35:27.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004045)  
thorough investigations and carefully evaluates the facts and evidence before initiating any terrorism financing case or pursuing any remedy available under the law.

**[05:35:42.960] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004046)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[05:35:44.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004047)  
Therefore, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I'd like to present a case study on the floor, which I assume the AMLC will be well familiar with.

**[05:35:55.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004048)  
In the case of the Leyte Center for Development,

**[05:35:57.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004049)  
development, its assets

**[05:35:59.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004050)  
and accounts including personal accounts

**[05:36:01.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004051)  
and assets of its staff and Executive

**[05:36:03.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004052)  
Director Hasmin Jerusalem

**[05:36:05.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004053)  
as well as the accounts of LCD

**[05:36:07.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004054)  
suppliers were ordered

**[05:36:09.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004055)  
frozen by the AMLC in 2024.

**[05:36:12.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004056)  
The Manila

**[05:36:13.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004057)  
RTC Branch 28

**[05:36:15.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004058)  
after AMLC filed

**[05:36:17.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004059)  
the case, found no reason

**[05:36:19.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004060)  
and substantive evidence for

**[05:36:21.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004061)  
the freezing of the accounts and assets

**[05:36:23.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004062)  
ordering their unfreezing on

**[05:36:25.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004063)  
February 20, 2026.

**[05:36:27.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004064)  
AMLC then filed a motion

**[05:36:29.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004065)  
for reconsideration on March 6,

**[05:36:31.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004066)  
2026 and the RTC

**[05:36:33.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004067)  
denied the motion for reconsideration

**[05:36:35.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004068)  
in March 18,

**[05:36:37.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004069)  
2026, affirming and reiterating

**[05:36:39.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004070)  
its order to unfreeze

**[05:36:41.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004071)  
the accounts and assets of LCD

**[05:36:43.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004072)  
including personal accounts of its staff

**[05:36:45.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004073)  
and Executive Officer and suppliers.

**[05:36:48.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004074)  
Yet, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:36:50.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004075)  
good sponsor, to this day

**[05:36:51.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004076)  
the banks including

**[05:36:53.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004077)  
the AMLC have not complied.

**[05:36:56.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004078)  
So, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:36:57.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004079)  
good sponsor, good sponsor,

**[05:36:57.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004080)  
can the AMLC

**[05:36:59.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004081)  
clarify

**[05:37:00.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004082)  
on its rules for freezing

**[05:37:03.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004083)  
and unfreezing of accounts for

**[05:37:05.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004084)  
transparency and accountability?

**[05:37:07.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004085)  
The AMLC

**[05:37:09.240] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004086)  
cannot disclose

**[05:37:10.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004087)  
sub judice

**[05:37:12.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004088)  
whether or not it is conducting a

**[05:37:15.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004089)  
financial investigation involving a

**[05:37:17.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004090)  
particular CSO or NGO

**[05:37:19.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004091)  
as such information is

**[05:37:21.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004092)  
confidential. With respect

**[05:37:23.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004093)  
to cases pending before the courts,

**[05:37:25.340] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004094)  
the AMLC refrains

**[05:37:27.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004095)  
from commenting on matters

**[05:37:29.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004096)  
relating to such cases

**[05:37:30.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004097)  
in observance of the sub judice rule

**[05:37:33.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004098)  
which prohibits

**[05:37:35.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004099)  
public discussion that may

**[05:37:37.440] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004100)  
tend to influence or otherwise

**[05:37:39.240] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004101)  
interfere with the courts

**[05:37:41.400] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004102)  
resolution of pending case.

**[05:37:44.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004103)  
Rest assured, however,

**[05:37:45.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004104)  
that any investigation conducted

**[05:37:47.400] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004105)  
or case pursued by the

**[05:37:49.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004106)  
AMLC is based on the

**[05:37:51.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004107)  
available facts and evidence

**[05:37:53.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004108)  
and undertaken only after a thorough

**[05:37:55.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004109)  
and objective investigation.

**[05:37:57.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004110)  
Evaluation thereof.

**[05:37:59.160] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004111)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[05:38:00.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004112)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to clarify,

**[05:38:02.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004113)  
how is this a continuing case

**[05:38:04.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004114)  
that is under the sub judice rule?

**[05:38:08.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004115)  
Currently,

**[05:38:09.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004116)  
the RTC has denied

**[05:38:11.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004117)  
with finality the motion for

**[05:38:12.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004118)  
reconsideration filed by the AMLC.

**[05:38:16.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004119)  
So, what is keeping

**[05:38:17.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004120)  
the AMLC from complying to the

**[05:38:19.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004121)  
court's order to unfreeze the accounts of

**[05:38:20.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004122)  
LCDE?

**[05:38:27.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004123)  
Based on the evidence,

**[05:38:30.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004124)  
there are still other agencies

**[05:38:31.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004125)  
that are exploring it.

**[05:38:33.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004126)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[05:38:35.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004127)  
I'm sorry, can the sponsor repeat their answer

**[05:38:37.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004128)  
as I had difficulty

**[05:38:38.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004129)  
hearing it?

**[05:38:44.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004130)  
The AMLC is currently exploring

**[05:38:47.140] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004131)  
judicial evidence.

**[05:38:49.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004132)  
Judicial evidence.

**[05:38:52.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004133)  
So,

**[05:38:53.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004134)  
for AMLC,

**[05:38:55.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004135)  
the case is not closed.

**[05:38:57.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004136)  
Is this correct?

**[05:38:58.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004137)  
Madam, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[05:39:00.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004138)  
It is on appeal.

**[05:39:02.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004139)  
It is on appeal.

**[05:39:04.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004140)  
So, is that what's keeping the AMLC

**[05:39:06.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004141)  
from complying to the court's order

**[05:39:08.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004142)  
to unfreeze the accounts of

**[05:39:10.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004143)  
LCDE?

**[05:39:16.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004144)  
When was the appeal

**[05:39:18.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004145)  
filed, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[05:40:16.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004165)  
AMLC.

**[05:40:17.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004166)  
Avail is right to avail of judicial remedies.

**[05:40:24.680] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004167)  
The others can also do as well.

**[05:40:27.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004168)  
But to clarify, so this is the reason why AMLC has not complied yet with the court's order to unfreeze.

**[05:40:35.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004169)  
Because, yes, we understand that there are judicial remedies that can be available to agencies.

**[05:40:43.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004170)  
But this is a court order, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:40:49.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004171)  
And as we speak, NPO activities are being hampered.

**[05:40:54.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004172)  
The personal lives of officers whose accounts are being frozen are impeded because of AMLC's continuous noncompliance with the court's order.

**[05:41:06.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004173)  
Mr. Speaker, as to when the appeal was filed, we're still checking the data.

**[05:41:12.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004174)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, so we cannot on the floor share when the appeal was filed.

**[05:41:17.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004175)  
I think this would be instrumental to understanding why AMLC has not yet complied.

**[05:41:24.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004176)  
With the court's order.

**[05:41:26.760] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004177)  
I just want to remind of the subjudice, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:41:32.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004178)  
Yes, and we'd like to perhaps ask more information why it's still applicable given that there's an existing court order.

**[05:41:42.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004179)  
And there has yet details shared as to why the subjudice applies when the motion for reconsideration has already been denied.

**[05:41:54.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004180)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:42:10.600] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004181)  
Actually, Mr. Speaker, we cannot discuss further the minutes of the case because it's still ongoing.

**[05:42:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004182)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:42:22.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004183)  
Just to maybe...

**[05:42:24.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004184)  
Ask the final clarification.

**[05:42:27.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004185)  
Is the appeal filed?

**[05:42:31.480] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004186)  
Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:42:33.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004187)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to receive from AMLC information as to the status of this case,

**[05:42:41.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004188)  
which would be the reason why it would be under subjudice still.

**[05:42:45.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004189)  
The date and other pertinent information as to this case.

**[05:42:47.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004190)  
Would that be possible, Mr. Speaker?

**[05:42:49.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004191)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, we will be willing to submit our report.

**[05:42:53.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004192)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:42:54.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004193)  
But we'd like...

**[05:42:55.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004194)  
We ask these questions because this case is illustrative of the effect this sector risk assessment issued by SEC

**[05:43:06.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004195)  
using the information from AMLC to organizations that are a part of NPOs.

**[05:43:15.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004196)  
So, non-profit organizations that are expressive, religious, education providers, service-oriented.

**[05:43:21.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004197)  
That at the end of the day, there's this case.

**[05:43:24.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004198)  
Who went through court processes, their case was dismissed on reconsideration, it's been denied.

**[05:43:35.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004199)  
So, right now, this organization still cannot function.

**[05:43:40.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004200)  
The lives of the officers and their ability to function as human beings in a time where our assets are nearly all liquid

**[05:43:50.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004201)  
and therefore we have to depend on banks, on financials.

**[05:43:54.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004202)  
Financial institutions to maintain our daily duties, it's all being hampered.

**[05:44:02.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004203)  
And when AMLC shared earlier that it has its business not interfering with the functions

**[05:44:14.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004204)  
or even measuring the effects of their policies to organizations, that strikes me as disappointing

**[05:44:21.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004205)  
because lives are being...

**[05:44:24.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004206)  
lives are being disrupted by AMLC's findings and policies.

**[05:44:28.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004207)  
So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I'd like to ask the AMLC, does it know the consequences for legitimate NPO activity

**[05:44:39.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004208)  
and how does AMLC measure them, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[05:44:46.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004209)  
And how does AMLC assess whether its NPO measures are risk-based and proportionate?

**[05:45:30.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004212)  
Mr. Speaker, covered persons may file suspicious transaction reports involving corporations or organizations suspected of being involved in terrorism or that has been designated as such.

**[05:45:44.560] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004213)  
The AMLC may therefore thereafter act on these reports, and when investigation warrants, pursue the appropriate remedies available under applicable laws,

**[05:45:55.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004214)  
including the issuance or implementation of freeze orders,

**[05:45:59.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004215)  
and the institution of civil forfeiture proceedings.

**[05:46:03.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004216)  
Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:46:07.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004217)  
However, this is information that may be gathered by a cursory glance at the AMLA.

**[05:46:14.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004218)  
But we're asking about the practical and memoranda policy orders wherein AMLC is able to set standards for itself

**[05:46:27.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004219)  
to change.

**[05:46:29.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004220)  
To check whether the measures that it implements against NPO's are risk-based and proportionate.

**[05:46:36.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004221)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, how does AMLC assess this?

**[05:46:41.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004222)  
What was shared to us was the process.

**[05:46:44.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004223)  
But what does AMLC do to ensure that their actions are risk-based and proportionate and not just merely blanketly responsive to complaints or reports?

**[05:46:59.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004224)  
from covered persons?

**[05:47:55.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004247)  
We conduct risk assessments to determine possible risk exposure of NGOs

**[05:48:01.400] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004248)  
based on facts; then AMLC will make policies.

**[05:48:06.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004249)  
Can this representation request, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, a copy of the standards that the AMLC uses to say that their measures are risk-based and proportionate?

**[05:48:20.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004250)  
Whether this is a memorandum order, a framework, a policy plan, or whatever document the AMLC uses,

**[05:48:29.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004251)  
to ensure that it does entail proportionate measures, this representation would like to receive a copy.

**[05:48:37.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004252)  
Is this possible, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[05:48:39.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004253)  
We'll do that, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:48:41.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004254)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[05:48:43.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004255)  
My next question would be, can we know how many total NPO-linked suspicious transaction reports or SDRs since 2021 up to the latest available year have been filed?

**[05:48:59.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004256)  
As of the moment, Mr. Speaker, we don't have the data. We will just submit to the office.

**[05:49:05.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004257)  
Okay, we will look forward to that from 2021 up to the latest available year.

**[05:49:10.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004258)  
Do we have data on how much money is involved here?

**[05:49:17.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004259)  
None at the moment.

**[05:49:21.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004260)  
Mr. Speaker, we'd like to receive that also via a report.

**[05:49:23.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004261)  
How about for money laundering and terrorist financing SDRs?

**[05:49:29.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004262)  
Do we know how many, what is the total number issued since 2021 and how much is involved?

**[05:49:37.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004263)  
We will also include that, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:49:39.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004264)  
Okay, so we'll look forward to that.

**[05:49:42.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004265)  
Generally, SDRs and then SDRs in relation to money laundering and terrorist financing charges.

**[05:49:48.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004266)  
That's Mr. Speaker.

**[05:49:50.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004267)  
Of course, we look forward to this data so we ensure that our laws are properly implemented.

**[05:49:57.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004268)  
But we'd like to ask also, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:49:59.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004269)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, will this data be publicly available and when?

**[05:50:23.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004270)  
We do submit annual accomplishment reports.

**[05:50:27.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004271)  
Okay.

**[05:50:29.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004272)  
We look forward to that as well.

**[05:50:30.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004273)  
But given the, well, public attention to how AMLC is able to check the suspicious transactions

**[05:50:43.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004274)  
that it receives via reports or even covered transactions it receives when covered persons

**[05:50:49.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004275)  
give their due diligence, we'd like to open to AMLC if this information can be public.

**[05:50:58.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004276)  
So we'd like to receive.

**[05:50:59.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004277)  
I don't know if this is an official accomplishment report, but is, does AMLC plan to publish this information?

**[05:51:04.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004278)  
Does it plan to make it public?

**[05:51:06.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004279)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:51:08.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004280)  
May I ask when?

**[05:51:10.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004281)  
It's being published.

**[05:51:12.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004282)  
And may I ask also, how often does AMLC publish the results?

**[05:51:14.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004283)  
Annually.

**[05:51:16.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004284)  
Annually.

**[05:51:18.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004285)  
So mga anong date po kaya ito?

**[05:51:20.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004286)  
And can we have the assurance that AMLC will publish their findings as soon as possible?

**[05:51:37.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004290)  
They usually publish

**[05:51:39.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004291)  
annually

**[05:51:41.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004292)  
before the budget hearing, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:51:44.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004293)  
Okay.

**[05:51:46.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004294)  
So can we have the assurance, so well AMLC mentioned that it has an accomplishment report prior to this budget hearing.

**[05:51:56.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004296)  
However, I have

**[05:51:59.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004297)  
been hearing that there's a lot of data

**[05:52:01.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004298)  
that this representation is requesting

**[05:52:03.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004299)  
on the floor that AMLC is

**[05:52:05.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004300)  
unable to provide at this particular

**[05:52:07.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004301)  
instance. So

**[05:52:09.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004302)  
this representation

**[05:52:12.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004303)  
would like to just note on record

**[05:52:13.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004304)  
that

**[05:52:14.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004305)  
though we would like

**[05:52:17.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004306)  
to see

**[05:52:19.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004307)  
the

**[05:52:20.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004308)  
data of AMLC

**[05:52:22.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004309)  
that as of now

**[05:52:25.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004310)  
it seems like there is more that has

**[05:52:27.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004311)  
to be provided and made

**[05:52:29.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004312)  
public for further clarification.

**[05:52:31.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004313)  
So can we have the assurance that AMLC

**[05:52:33.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004314)  
will publish their findings as soon

**[05:52:35.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004315)  
as available?

**[05:52:38.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004316)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:52:40.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004317)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:52:41.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004318)  
good sponsor.

**[05:52:42.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004319)  
My next question would be, we did

**[05:52:45.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004320)  
check the data

**[05:52:47.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004321)  
that AMLC has published

**[05:52:49.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004322)  
prior to the budget season

**[05:52:51.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004323)  
and in the executive summary it says

**[05:52:53.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004324)  
that a total of 18

**[05:52:55.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004325)  
NPOs were identified

**[05:52:57.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004326)  
in 112

**[05:52:58.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004327)  
10

**[05:52:59.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004328)  
terrorism and terrorist financing

**[05:53:01.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004329)  
related STRs filed with the

**[05:53:03.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004330)  
AMLC. However, in a

**[05:53:05.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004331)  
statement on page 36 it says

**[05:53:07.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004332)  
for 2017 to

**[05:53:09.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004333)  
2020, 112

**[05:53:11.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004334)  
NPOs were identified

**[05:53:13.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004335)  
in the STRs relating to

**[05:53:14.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004336)  
terrorism and terrorist financing.

**[05:53:17.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004337)  
So there's a discrepancy on the numbers.

**[05:53:19.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004338)  
Sa isa, sabi

**[05:53:20.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004339)  
18 NPOs were identified

**[05:53:23.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004340)  
in 112 charges

**[05:53:25.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004341)  
or STRs.

**[05:53:26.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004342)  
And in another it says

**[05:53:29.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004343)  
12 NPOs were identified.

**[05:53:31.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004344)  
Can we clarify,

**[05:53:32.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004345)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, which

**[05:53:35.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004346)  
of this is the proper

**[05:53:37.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004347)  
data point?

**[05:53:38.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004348)  
We will check on that and validate.

**[05:53:41.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004349)  
Okay. Mr. Speaker, good

**[05:53:43.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004350)  
sponsor,

**[05:53:44.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004351)  
we see that

**[05:53:46.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004352)  
with this and we're

**[05:53:48.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004353)  
looking for and hoping for the information

**[05:53:51.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004354)  
to clarify

**[05:53:52.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004355)  
but it seems like that

**[05:53:54.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004356)  
AMLC is prioritizing

**[05:53:57.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004357)  
and targeting the small

**[05:53:59.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004358)  
smaller people's organizations

**[05:54:00.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004359)  
that are victims of red tagging

**[05:54:03.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004360)  
that at the end of the day

**[05:54:04.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004361)  
their charges are dismissed

**[05:54:06.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004362)  
in courts and

**[05:54:08.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004363)  
sa halip na habulin nito

**[05:54:10.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004364)  
ang katotohan

**[05:54:13.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004365)  
at malalaking money launderers

**[05:54:15.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004366)  
na naglipana.

**[05:54:16.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004367)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we're

**[05:54:18.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004368)  
requesting the

**[05:54:20.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004369)  
information that was

**[05:54:22.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004370)  
promised above but we'd

**[05:54:24.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004371)  
also like to add

**[05:54:26.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004372)  
and this representation

**[05:54:29.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004373)  
we'd also just furnish a copy

**[05:54:30.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004374)  
we'd like also to be

**[05:54:32.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004375)  
furnished on the

**[05:54:34.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004376)  
updated annual figures for the

**[05:54:36.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004377)  
latest available year using

**[05:54:38.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004378)  
the same definitions and level of aggregation

**[05:54:41.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004379)  
of NPOs

**[05:54:42.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004380)  
and update on the primary

**[05:54:44.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004381)  
sources of funds of

**[05:54:46.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004382)  
NPOs generally

**[05:54:48.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004383)  
the updated annual figures

**[05:54:51.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004384)  
on the territorial area

**[05:54:52.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004385)  
and operation or activities

**[05:54:54.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004386)  
of NPOs for the latest available

**[05:54:57.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004387)  
year and the updated

**[05:54:58.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004388)  
annual figures on the amount of

**[05:55:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004389)  
funds annually used for

**[05:55:02.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004390)  
2019 to the latest

**[05:55:04.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004391)  
available year and the total

**[05:55:06.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004392)  
amount of donations, contributions

**[05:55:08.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004393)  
and grants for 2019

**[05:55:09.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004394)  
to the latest available year

**[05:55:12.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004395)  
using the same definitions and level

**[05:55:14.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004396)  
of aggregation. We ask these

**[05:55:16.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004397)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor

**[05:55:18.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004398)  
because this representation

**[05:55:20.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004399)  
from consulting

**[05:55:22.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004400)  
with people's organizations

**[05:55:24.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004401)  
that are falling under

**[05:55:26.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004402)  
the definition of these NPOs

**[05:55:28.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004403)  
they are not

**[05:55:30.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004404)  
rich, they are not well

**[05:55:32.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004405)  
funded, nonetheless

**[05:55:33.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004406)  
in the good work they do

**[05:55:35.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004407)  
they are hampered by these

**[05:55:38.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004408)  
allegations, these SDRs

**[05:55:40.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004409)  
by AMLC. So

**[05:55:42.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004410)  
we'd like the following data, Mr. Speaker

**[05:55:44.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004411)  
good sponsor, can

**[05:55:46.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004412)  
these be provided to this representation

**[05:55:48.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004413)  
by the

**[05:55:50.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004414)  
end of the week?

**[05:55:57.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004415)  
Yes,

**[05:55:58.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004416)  
Mr. Speaker, by the end of the week.

**[05:56:00.680] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004417)  
For the end of the week, probably.

**[05:56:02.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004418)  
Okay, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I have no other further

**[05:56:04.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004419)  
questions, but we'd like to

**[05:56:06.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004420)  
be updated as soon as possible

**[05:56:08.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004421)  
with relation to our requests

**[05:56:10.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004422)  
to ensure that AMLC does indeed

**[05:56:12.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004423)  
target the biggest

**[05:56:13.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004424)  
money launderers in our country

**[05:56:16.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004425)  
and not small-time

**[05:56:18.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004426)  
people's organizations

**[05:56:19.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004427)  
who for their advocacies

**[05:56:22.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004428)  
are able to help the lives

**[05:56:24.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004429)  
of many Filipinos. That's all, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:56:26.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004430)  
good sponsor, thank you for answering our questions.

**[05:56:28.780] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004431)  
Thank you, thank you very much

**[05:56:30.520] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004432)  
and the recommitment made by the

**[05:56:32.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004433)  
Vice Chair and hope it will be delivered to the

**[05:56:34.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004434)  
requesting member.

**[05:56:37.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004435)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:56:40.640] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004436)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:56:43.040] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004437)  
next to interpolate

**[05:56:44.740] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004438)  
the proposed budget of Anti-Money

**[05:56:46.620] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004439)  
Laundering Council

**[05:56:47.800] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004440)  
is

**[05:56:49.240] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004441)  
Representative

**[05:56:52.080] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004442)  
Sarah Jane

**[05:56:54.460] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004443)  
Ilago from Gabriela

**[05:56:56.480] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004444)  
Partylist.

**[05:56:57.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004444-split-2)  
Gentle lady from

**[05:56:58.780] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004445)  
Gabriela Partylist, Honorable Ilago, is recognized.

**[05:57:02.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004446)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:57:04.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004447)  
First, under Section 9,

**[05:57:06.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004448)  
Letter C of

**[05:57:07.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004449)  
Republic Act No. 11930

**[05:57:10.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004450)  
or the Anti-Online Sexual Abuse

**[05:57:12.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004451)  
and Exploitation of Children and

**[05:57:14.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004452)  
Anti-Child Sexual Abuse

**[05:57:16.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004453)  
and Exploitation Materials Act,

**[05:57:18.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004454)  
payment service providers or

**[05:57:20.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004455)  
PSPs that have direct knowledge

**[05:57:23.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004456)  
of financial activities related

**[05:57:24.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004457)  
to OSAIC and CISAIM

**[05:57:26.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004458)  
have a duty to report

**[05:57:28.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004459)  
these to the DOJ

**[05:57:29.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004460)  
within 24 hours

**[05:57:31.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004461)  
and to the AMLC

**[05:57:33.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004462)  
within 5 days. May we get

**[05:57:35.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004463)  
an update and status of the reports

**[05:57:38.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004464)  
received by the

**[05:57:39.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004465)  
AMLC regarding financial

**[05:57:41.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004466)  
activities related to OSAIC

**[05:57:43.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004467)  
and CISAIM?

**[05:57:58.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004468)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:58:09.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004469)  
we were not able to receive

**[05:58:10.920] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004470)  
reports under the OSAIC law

**[05:58:14.940] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004471)  
only from

**[05:58:18.680] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004472)  
SDRs,

**[05:58:21.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004473)  
suspicious transactions.

**[05:58:22.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004474)  
So, for the record,

**[05:58:25.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004475)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[05:58:26.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004476)  
there is no one.

**[05:58:28.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004477)  
None so far

**[05:58:30.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004478)  
related to the violation

**[05:58:32.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004479)  
of the Anti-OSAIC and Anti-CISAIM

**[05:58:35.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004480)  
law.

**[05:58:36.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004481)  
Then,

**[05:58:37.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004482)  
so, in the past year

**[05:58:40.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004483)  
since this law was passed,

**[05:58:42.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004484)  
have there been any accounts

**[05:58:43.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004485)  
linked to OSAIC and CISAIM that have been

**[05:58:46.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004486)  
closed or frozen by the AMLC?

**[05:58:49.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004487)  
Since the anti-OSAIC and CISAIM

**[05:58:52.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004488)  
law was passed in 2022,

**[05:58:54.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004489)  
have there been any

**[05:58:56.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004490)  
closings?

**[05:58:58.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004491)  
And do those accounts

**[05:59:00.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004492)  
na ipasara na account na may kinalaman sa OSAEC at CSAEM?

**[05:59:40.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004509)  
We have accounted for four of the civil forfeiture petitions filed in 2025

**[05:59:45.360] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004510)  
and three of the 28 petitions filed in the first semester of 2026.

**[05:59:52.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004511)  
A separate breakdown of OSAEC and CSAEM cases is maintained by the operating unit.

**[06:00:00.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004512)  
and can be furnished to the Committee on Request.

**[06:00:04.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004513)  
Mr. Speaker, this representation would like to request for a copy

**[06:00:08.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004514)  
of the status of the implementation of this law so far

**[06:00:13.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004515)  
as well as details including dates of flagged and investigated transaction.

**[06:00:20.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004516)  
We asked and are concerned of these matter

**[06:00:24.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004517)  
because we want to ensure that the AMLC responds swiftly to cases

**[06:00:28.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004518)  
involving OSAIC and CISAEM, particularly those involving financial transactions.

**[06:00:34.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004519)  
We believe that immediate action is necessary to ensure that suspicious financial activities

**[06:00:41.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004520)  
linked to these grave offenses against children are promptly addressed and investigated

**[06:00:48.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004521)  
as the Congress are now working to revise and strengthen this law.

**[06:00:55.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-004522)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker. Maraming salamat sa ating listening response.

**[06:00:58.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004523)  
Thank you very much and same, there were commitments made

**[06:01:04.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004524)  
and I hope that the Vice Chair will be able to supply the needed

**[06:01:09.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004525)  
and commitments to the good member.

**[06:01:15.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004526)  
Majority Leader.

**[06:01:17.420] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004527)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the proposed budget of the Anti-Money Laundering Council,

**[06:01:22.940] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004528)  
I move to recognize Representative Presley Desos

**[06:01:29.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004529)  
the gentleman from Phil Reca,

**[06:01:31.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004530)  
Honorable Presley Desos, you have the floor.

**[06:01:35.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004531)  
Thank you Mr. Speaker Madam Sponsor.

**[06:01:39.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004532)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:01:41.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004533)  
let me begin with the budget itself.

**[06:01:44.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004534)  
AMLC has a current fiscal year 2026 budget of P333 million

**[06:01:51.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004535)  
but for 2027, the proposed amount is only about P144 million.

**[06:01:57.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004536)  
So, we are reducing AMLC

**[06:01:58.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004537)  
budget by more than half.

**[06:02:00.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004538)  
Why is the budget going down so

**[06:02:02.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004539)  
substantially,

**[06:02:04.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004540)  
Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor?

**[06:02:08.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004541)  
Bakit masyadong mababa

**[06:02:09.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004542)  
ang inyong budget,

**[06:02:12.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004543)  
more than half, from P333

**[06:02:14.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004544)  
million, naging

**[06:02:16.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004545)  
P144 million?

**[06:02:19.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004546)  
What's the reason behind?

**[06:02:21.880] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004547)  
Mr. Speaker, may I respectfully clarify the premise.

**[06:02:25.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004548)  
The P144 million is not

**[06:02:26.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004549)  
the AMLC's proposal.

**[06:02:28.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004550)  
It is the amount recommended by

**[06:02:30.720] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004551)  
the Department of Budget and Management

**[06:02:32.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004552)  
in the NEP.

**[06:02:34.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004553)  
The AMLC proposed

**[06:02:36.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004554)  
335

**[06:02:37.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004555)  
million 246.

**[06:02:41.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004556)  
So, for

**[06:02:42.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004557)  
2027, you requested

**[06:02:44.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004558)  
P300?

**[06:02:47.560] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004559)  
P333.

**[06:02:48.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004560)  
P33.

**[06:02:49.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004561)  
For 2027, it's P335.

**[06:02:52.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004562)  
I thought that was

**[06:02:53.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004563)  
P333 million, that was

**[06:02:56.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004564)  
for 2026.

**[06:02:57.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004565)  
Am I right?

**[06:03:03.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004566)  
Yes, P333 for 2026

**[06:03:06.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004567)  
and P335 for

**[06:03:07.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004568)  
2027.

**[06:03:09.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004569)  
Only a 0.64% more.

**[06:03:12.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004570)  
So, for 2027,

**[06:03:13.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004571)  
how much your budget

**[06:03:15.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004572)  
requested?

**[06:03:17.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004573)  
We requested for P335 to P460.

**[06:03:19.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004574)  
We were given only...

**[06:03:20.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004575)  
No, for 2027 alone.

**[06:03:23.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004576)  
For next year's budget.

**[06:03:24.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004577)  
That has been

**[06:03:25.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004578)  
more or less approved?

**[06:03:27.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004579)  
For 2027?

**[06:03:39.660] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004580)  
We proposed P335.

**[06:03:41.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004581)  
But the one...

**[06:03:44.340] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004582)  
The figure

**[06:03:45.600] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004583)  
is approved is only P144.

**[06:03:49.120] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004584)  
P144 million.

**[06:03:50.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004585)  
For 2027?

**[06:03:51.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004586)  
Yeah, how come there was a

**[06:03:53.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004587)  
big discrepancy between

**[06:03:55.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004588)  
2026 of P333?

**[06:03:57.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004589)  
P333 million and for 2027,

**[06:04:00.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004590)  
it went down to P144 million.

**[06:04:04.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004591)  
Anong bakit to bumaba?

**[06:04:06.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004592)  
Okay, the thing is,

**[06:04:07.860] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004593)  
um, the figures...

**[06:04:13.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004594)  
The NEP figures correspond to

**[06:04:14.620] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004595)  
the AMLC's forward estimate,

**[06:04:16.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004596)  
which was computed around

**[06:04:18.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004597)  
three years ago, and none of

**[06:04:20.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004598)  
the agency's peer-to-proposals

**[06:04:23.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004599)  
amounting to P190 million

**[06:04:24.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004600)  
was considered.

**[06:04:26.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004601)  
The NEP provides no capital outlay at all.

**[06:04:29.060] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004603)  
And the AMLC, therefore,

**[06:04:30.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004604)  
respectfully seeks the restoration

**[06:04:31.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004605)  
of the 190 million, 559.

**[06:04:35.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004606)  
Okay, thank you.

**[06:04:37.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004607)  
Let me proceed to my next question.

**[06:04:40.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004608)  
Can we then identify those

**[06:04:42.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004609)  
one-time expenditures?

**[06:04:45.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004610)  
Because AMLA responsibilities

**[06:04:47.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004611)  
are not going...

**[06:04:49.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004612)  
Are not getting smaller.

**[06:04:50.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004613)  
AMLA owns latest

**[06:04:52.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004614)  
national risk assessment,

**[06:04:54.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004615)  
identifies continuing risks involving the AMLA,

**[06:04:56.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004616)  
involving fraud, drugs, corruption,

**[06:04:59.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004617)  
tax crime, virtual assets, casinos,

**[06:05:03.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004618)  
real estate, and other sectors.

**[06:05:05.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004619)  
It specifically calls for stronger

**[06:05:08.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004620)  
financial investigation, asset tracing,

**[06:05:11.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004621)  
data integration, and analytics.

**[06:05:14.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004622)  
So the budget needs to reflect that.

**[06:05:17.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004623)  
Would you agree, distinguished sponsor?

**[06:05:22.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004624)  
Yes.

**[06:05:23.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004625)  
Okay, thank you.

**[06:05:25.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004626)  
Now, let's go... Actually...

**[06:05:26.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004627)  
to my next question.

**[06:05:27.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004628)  
Let me move to something

**[06:05:28.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004629)  
that the public can understand more easily.

**[06:05:31.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004630)  
Criminal assets, AMLA has been active...

**[06:05:35.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004631)  
active in tracing and freezing assets

**[06:05:38.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004632)  
in case involving alleged corruption

**[06:05:41.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004633)  
in government projects.

**[06:05:42.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004634)  
In January 2026,

**[06:05:44.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004635)  
AMLA reported that assets frozen

**[06:05:48.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004636)  
in connection with alleged anomalous project

**[06:05:50.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004637)  
had reached approximately 24.7 billion.

**[06:05:54.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004638)  
But freezing an asset,

**[06:05:56.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004639)  
is not the same as recovering the asset.

**[06:05:59.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004640)  
Am I right?

**[06:06:00.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004641)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, correct.

**[06:06:02.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004642)  
Of the assets frozen

**[06:06:05.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004643)  
in corruption-related cases,

**[06:06:06.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004644)  
how much has actually reached final

**[06:06:08.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004645)  
forfeiture in favor of the government?

**[06:06:12.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004646)  
Mr. Speaker, most of the corruption-related assets

**[06:06:16.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004647)  
are still at the freezing or preservation stage

**[06:06:19.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004648)  
because the cases were filed only recently.

**[06:06:22.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004649)  
In 2025, 15 of the 30 freeze orders,

**[06:06:25.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004650)  
issued by the Court of Appeals,

**[06:06:27.620] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004651)  
involve corruption,

**[06:06:28.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004652)  
including 14 of the flood control anomalies,

**[06:06:31.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004653)  
covering 20.26 billion.

**[06:06:36.540] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004654)  
In the first semester of 2026,

**[06:06:39.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004655)  
18 of the 28 petitions for civil forfeiture

**[06:06:42.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004656)  
filed were corruption cases,

**[06:06:44.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004657)  
covering 15.76 billion in preserved assets.

**[06:06:48.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004658)  
57% of all assets preserved during the period.

**[06:06:52.740] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004659)  
As of June 30, 2026, five active cases,

**[06:06:54.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004660)  
including the one that was filed,

**[06:06:55.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004661)  
five active freeze orders in corruption cases,

**[06:06:58.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004662)  
over another 1.01 billion.

**[06:07:01.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004663)  
These cases are pending before the RTC

**[06:07:04.700] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004664)  
and judgment of forfeiture will follow trial.

**[06:07:07.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004665)  
The flood control cases alone accounted for 22 petitions,

**[06:07:12.860] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004666)  
covering about 16 billion in preserved assets,

**[06:07:16.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004667)  
as of September 16, 2026.

**[06:07:19.260] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004668)  
Across all of its cases since 2006,

**[06:07:22.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004669)  
the courts have issued 106 forfeiture cases,

**[06:07:24.940] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004670)  
forfeiture orders covering 2.17 billion.

**[06:07:29.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004671)  
Of these, 774 million has been returned to victims,

**[06:07:33.500] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004672)  
166 million has been turned over to the national government,

**[06:07:37.460] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004673)  
and 119 million has been transferred

**[06:07:39.860] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004674)  
to the Office of the Ombudsman,

**[06:07:41.940] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004675)  
while the balance is still at various stages of execution.

**[06:07:45.780] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004676)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[06:07:46.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004677)  
Thank you, Mrs. Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[06:07:51.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004678)  
If AMLC cannot provide the percentage,

**[06:07:53.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004679)  
does it presently measure this?

**[06:07:54.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004680)  
I think one measure of AMLOC effectiveness

**[06:07:59.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004681)  
in the number of criminal networks first identified

**[06:08:02.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004682)  
through its own financial intelligence

**[06:08:04.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004683)  
instead of just being reactive.

**[06:08:06.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004684)  
Would you agree with that, Madam Sponsor?

**[06:08:11.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004685)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:08:14.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004686)  
This is an important distinction, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[06:08:17.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004687)  
If PNP, NBI, PIDEA, and the Ombudsman,

**[06:08:22.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004688)  
or another agency already identifies us,

**[06:08:24.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004689)  
we recognize that we are a suspect and AMLOC then traces the person's account.

**[06:08:29.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004690)  
That is important work.

**[06:08:30.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004691)  
We recognize that.

**[06:08:32.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004692)  
But AMLOC also received enormous amounts of financial information

**[06:08:37.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004693)  
from banks and other covered persons.

**[06:08:41.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004694)  
So AMLOC should also be capable of identifying suspicious financial activity

**[06:08:47.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004695)  
on their own and investigation based on the information.

**[06:08:52.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004696)  
How often does that happen?

**[06:08:54.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004697)  
It happens regularly and increasingly.

**[06:08:58.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004698)  
In the first semester of 2026, 751 of the AMLOCs,

**[06:09:04.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004699)  
1,165 financial intelligence products were generated on its own initiative,

**[06:09:10.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004700)  
including 300 spontaneous disclosures,

**[06:09:13.420] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004701)  
cases in which the AMLOC itself identified suspicious activity

**[06:09:18.820] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004702)  
and referred it to law enforcement or foreign counterparts without a prior request.

**[06:09:24.220] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004703)  
The limiting factor is capacity.

**[06:09:26.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004704)  
Suspicious transaction reports received rose from 10.9 million in 2023 to 62.9 million in 2025.

**[06:09:37.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004705)  
In the flood control investigation alone,

**[06:09:40.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004706)  
the AMLOC analyzed 5,148 suspicious transaction reports

**[06:09:44.980] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004707)  
and 492,346 covered transaction reports

**[06:09:50.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004708)  
to produce 52 financial intelligence products,

**[06:09:54.940] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004712)  
on 393 persons of interest.

**[06:09:57.900] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004713)  
Scaling that kind of analysis is what the 2027 budget is for.

**[06:10:05.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004714)  
Thank you, Mrs. Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[06:10:09.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004715)  
Now, I'm going back to my first question.

**[06:10:12.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004716)  
So let me ask very directly,

**[06:10:15.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004717)  
is the proposed 144 million budget sufficient for the risk AMLOC itself has identified?

**[06:10:23.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004718)  
Kasya ho ba ito

**[06:10:24.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004719)  
sa dami ng ginagawa ninyo, yung budget ninyo?

**[06:10:39.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004721)  
No, no, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:10:40.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004722)  
So what are you going to do with the major budget you have?

**[06:10:45.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004723)  
So how about that?

**[06:10:47.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004724)  
Is it tied in your hands again, just like the ARTA?

**[06:10:53.300] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004725)  
Actually, Mr. Speaker,

**[06:11:09.940] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004726)  
we want to

**[06:11:11.100] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004727)  
appeal to the House

**[06:11:13.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004728)  
to respectfully seek the

**[06:11:15.180] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004729)  
restoration of the

**[06:11:16.560] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004730)  
190 million

**[06:11:19.040] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004731)  
500

**[06:11:21.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004732)  
So, 198 million plus

**[06:11:23.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004733)  
the 144 million.

**[06:11:26.000] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004734)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:11:27.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004735)  
That's around 300 something.

**[06:11:29.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004736)  
Almost to 333 million.

**[06:11:32.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004737)  
Again, for my

**[06:11:33.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004738)  
last question,

**[06:11:36.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004739)  
so, I know that

**[06:11:37.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004740)  
AMLA, when it comes to local banks,

**[06:11:40.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004741)  
so you can ask

**[06:11:41.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004742)  
for the freezing of assets. How about

**[06:11:43.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004743)  
the offshore bank outside

**[06:11:44.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004744)  
Philippines? Do you have any

**[06:11:46.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004745)  
inter...

**[06:11:49.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004746)  
or you have any

**[06:11:51.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004747)  
agreement with other?

**[06:12:00.340] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004748)  
Generally, there's no

**[06:12:01.580] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004749)  
jurisdiction, but we coordinate

**[06:12:03.200] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004750)  
with them.

**[06:12:04.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004750-split-2)  
So, in case

**[06:12:05.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004751)  
if one person, banks

**[06:12:07.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004752)  
in different country,

**[06:12:10.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004753)  
so in Caribbean, wala na.

**[06:12:12.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004754)  
Do they have authority?

**[06:12:13.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004755)  
Only local? Or you

**[06:12:15.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004756)  
can coordinate to other AMLA?

**[06:12:17.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004757)  
Maybe?

**[06:12:18.520] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004757-split-2)  
We coordinate

**[06:12:19.320] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004758)  
with international.

**[06:12:21.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004759)  
And maybe it takes time, right?

**[06:12:23.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004760)  
Again, Mr. Speaker,

**[06:12:25.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004761)  
this is what I'm trying

**[06:12:27.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004762)  
to say. We're trying to

**[06:12:29.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004763)  
put them in a harm's way,

**[06:12:32.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004764)  
pero the budget nila,

**[06:12:34.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004765)  
334 naging

**[06:12:35.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004766)  
144, so

**[06:12:37.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004767)  
alaking bagay. So, again, may

**[06:12:39.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004768)  
appealing to the

**[06:12:41.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004769)  
chairwoman of the appropriation.

**[06:12:43.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004770)  
Sana dagdagan ang budget nyo, just like ATA.

**[06:12:45.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004771)  
So, you can work properly,

**[06:12:47.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004772)  
you can deliver

**[06:12:48.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004773)  
properly.

**[06:12:51.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004774)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[06:12:53.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004775)  
there's no more, there's being no more

**[06:12:55.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004776)  
members of the minority

**[06:12:57.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004777)  
who wishes

**[06:12:59.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004778)  
to interpolate.

**[06:13:01.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004779)  
I move to terminate

**[06:13:03.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004780)  
the period of sponsorship and debate

**[06:13:05.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004781)  
for the budget of

**[06:13:07.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004782)  
anti-money

**[06:13:09.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004783)  
laundering council.

**[06:13:11.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004784)  
I so move, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:13:13.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004785)  
Thank you. What does the House say?

**[06:13:16.020] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004786)  
Thank you, Kong Presley.

**[06:13:19.380] Rep. Ma. Isabel L. Sagarbarria** (asr-004787)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:13:21.260] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004788)  
Majority Leader, what does the House say?

**[06:13:26.220] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004789)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[06:13:27.200] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004790)  
on the part of the majority, we join

**[06:13:29.100] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004791)  
the minority in the motion to terminate

**[06:13:31.100] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004792)  
the period of interpellations

**[06:13:33.500] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004793)  
of the proposed budget

**[06:13:34.940] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004794)  
of the anti-money laundering

**[06:13:37.200] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004795)  
council.

**[06:13:38.958] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004796)  
Motion to terminate the interpellations

**[06:13:40.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004797)  
on the proposed budget of the Anti-Money

**[06:13:43.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004798)  
laundering council.

**[06:13:45.420] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004799)  
Is there any objection?

**[06:13:47.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004800)  
There is none.

**[06:13:48.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004801)  
The period of interpellations on the proposed

**[06:13:50.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004802)  
budget

**[06:13:51.260] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004803)  
of the Anti-Money Laundering Council

**[06:13:53.120] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004804)  
is hereby terminated.

**[06:13:56.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004805)  
Congratulations.

**[06:13:57.560] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004806)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to

**[06:13:59.280] Rep. Leonel "Jhong" D. Ceniza** (asr-004807)  
suspend the session.

**[06:14:00.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004807-split-2)  
Session suspended.

**[06:18:17.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004818)  
Session resumed. Majority Leader.

**[06:18:19.840] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004818-split-2)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.

**[06:18:27.520] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004818-split-3)  
There is a motion to consider the proposed budget

**[06:18:29.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004819)  
of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency. Objection? Chair hears none. Motion is [unclear]. Majority Leader.

**[06:18:37.200] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004819-split-2)  
Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency, namely Director General Ricardo de Leon, Deputy Director General Rudolf Futor, Deputy Director General Roberton Lapus, Executive Director Chodor

**[06:19:00.000] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004820)  
Libardo, Executive Director Jesus Leonardo Auxilio, Assistant Director General Angeles, Assistant Director General Pedro Gabayan, Assistant Director General Anna Lisa Umpar, Assistant Director General Ariel Perlado, Assistant Director General Denis Godfrey Gamad, Assistant Director General Edel Batal and Assistant Director General Jericho Kawan.

**[06:19:36.478] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004821)  
Our officers from the National Intelligence Coordinating Council, led by Director General Ricardo F. De Leon. Sir, in behalf of Speaker Bod and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

**[06:19:52.800] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004821-split-2)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable

**[06:20:00.000] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004822)  
Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.

**[06:20:12.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004822-split-2)  
The gentle lady from the second district of Sultan Kudarat, Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing, you are recognized.

**[06:20:20.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004822-split-3)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, magandang gabi. It is a privilege of this representation to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the National

**[06:20:30.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004823)  
Intelligence Coordinating Agency. We are now ready to answer questions regarding the budget. Thank you.

**[06:20:38.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004823-split-2)  
Thank you. Majority Leader.

**[06:20:49.840] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004823-split-3)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Presley De Jesus, party-list PHILRECA,

**[06:21:00.000] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004824)  
to interpellate the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.

**[06:21:03.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004824-split-2)  
Honorable gentleman from party-list PHILRECA, Honorable Presley De Jesus, you are recognized.

**[06:21:11.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004824-split-3)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There being no more members of the minority who wish to interpellate, I move to terminate the period of sponsorship debate for the budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating

**[06:21:30.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-004825)  
Agency. I so move, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:21:34.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004825-split-2)  
What does the House say?

**[06:21:43.000] Rep. Esmael G. Mangudadatu** (asr-004825-split-3)  
Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellations on the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.

**[06:21:53.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004825-split-4)  
There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellations on the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency.

**[06:22:00.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004826)  
Is there any objection? There is none. Motion is approved. The interpellation of the proposed budget of the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency is terminated. Majority Leader.

**[06:22:24.520] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004826-split-2)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the session for a

**[06:22:26.080] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004827)  
few minutes.

**[06:22:26.878] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004827-split-2)  
Session suspended.

**[06:25:04.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004836)  
Session resumed.

**[06:25:06.360] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004837)  
Majority Leader.

**[06:25:07.880] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004838)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the National Security Council.

**[06:25:12.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004839)  
There is a motion to consider the budget of the National Security Council.

**[06:25:16.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004840)  
Is there any objection? There is none.

**[06:25:18.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004841)  
Motion is carried. Majority Leader.

**[06:25:21.200] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004842)  
Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the heads and officials

**[06:25:24.080] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004843)  
of the National Security Council, namely

**[06:25:26.840] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004844)  
National Security Advisor and Director General Eduardo SL Oban Jr.

**[06:25:33.160] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004861)  
Deputy Director General and Chief of Staff Benjamin Madrigal Jr., Deputy Director General Pedro S. Soria II, Deputy Director General Nestor Herico, Assistant Director General Francisco F. Mendoza Jr.,

**[06:25:48.880] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004862)  
Officer in Charge, Assistant Director General Maria Lourdes V. Santelises, and Executive Director Danilo Pamonag. I so move, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:26:00.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004863)  
Maayong gabi. In behalf of our Speaker Bod and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos, we acknowledge the presence

**[06:26:08.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004864)  
and heads of the National Security Council, National Security Advisor and Director General Eduardo Oban Jr.,

**[06:26:18.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004865)  
our former commanding officer, Deputy Director General and Chief of Staff General Madrigal,

**[06:26:26.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004866)  
Deputy Director General Pedro Soria,

**[06:26:29.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004867)  
Deputy Director General Nestor Herico, Assistant Director General Francisco Mendoza,

**[06:26:35.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004868)  
Official in Charge Assistant Director General Maria Lourdes Santelises, and Executive Director Danilo Pamonag.

**[06:26:41.260] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004869)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

**[06:26:45.260] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004870)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate.

**[06:26:54.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004871)  
There's a motion to open the period of sponsorship and debate.

**[06:26:57.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004872)  
Is there any objection? Chair hears none. Motion is carried.

**[06:27:00.718] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004873)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa Suansing from the 2nd District of Sultan Kudarat

**[06:27:09.140] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004874)  
on the Committee of Appropriations to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Security Council.

**[06:27:16.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004875)  
The gentle lady from the 2nd District from Sultan Kudarat, Honorable Vice Chair Bella Vanessa, ma'am, you are recognized.

**[06:27:24.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004876)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues,

**[06:27:27.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004877)  
good evening. It is a privilege of this representation to sponsor the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the National Security Council.

**[06:27:37.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004878)  
We are now ready to answer questions regarding this proposed budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:27:42.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004879)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader.

**[06:27:45.560] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004880)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize the Honorable Representative of Kabataan Partylist Representative Rene Luis M. Co.

**[06:27:54.800] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-004881)  
to interpolate on the proposed budget of the National Security Council.

**[06:27:59.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-004882)  
The gentle lady from Kabataan Partylist Representative Rene Luis M. Co. is recognized. Ma'am, you have the floor.

**[06:28:08.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004883)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and good evening to our distinguished sponsor.

**[06:28:13.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004884)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, may the sponsor yield to a few questions in relation to the budget of the National Security Council and spending.

**[06:28:23.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004885)  
Yes, gladly, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:28:25.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004886)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor to refresh.

**[06:28:27.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004887)  
The August Chamber, what is the budget of the National Security Council?

**[06:28:33.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004888)  
The fiscal year 2027 budget of the National Security Council proposed amount is 1.136 billion pesos.

**[06:28:42.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004889)  
This is lower than the fiscal year 2026 level.

**[06:28:49.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004890)  
Should we look through the details of the breakdown, Mr. Speaker?

**[06:28:55.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004891)  
We'd like to receive that as well, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:28:57.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004892)  
Good sponsor.

**[06:28:58.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004893)  
What of its MOOE, Mr. Speaker?

**[06:29:02.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004894)  
Good sponsor.

**[06:29:03.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004895)  
Mr. Speaker, the MOOE, the proposed 2027 level is 962.568 million pesos, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:29:13.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004896)  
So most of its budget would be on its MOOE, Mr. Speaker?

**[06:29:17.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004897)  
Good sponsor.

**[06:29:19.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004898)  
Yes, that would be correct, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:29:22.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004899)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:29:24.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004900)  
I'd like to ask specifically.

**[06:29:27.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004901)  
Specifically, paano ginamit ng National Security Council yung kanyang MOOE?

**[06:29:35.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004902)  
We are aware that this year, NSC has released the Philippine Journal on National Security.

**[06:29:45.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004903)  
Supposedly, this is its first edition.

**[06:29:48.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004904)  
Supposedly, this is volume one.

**[06:29:50.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004905)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, may I request information?

**[06:29:54.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004906)  
Magkano po ang ginasta?

**[06:29:56.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004907)  
Para?

**[06:29:57.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004908)  
Mabuo ang Philippine Journal on National Security?

**[06:30:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004909)  
on national security, magkano din ang pinaplano kung meron pong subsequent editions or subsequent volumes nito?

**[06:30:09.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004910)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker. With regard to the programs and projects under the MOOE for fiscal year 2026, this?

**[06:30:18.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004911)  
2027, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:30:20.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004912)  
Ah, for 2027.

**[06:31:04.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004914)  
While the agency is pulling up the data, Mr. Speaker, a significant portion of it would be for the implementation of the National Strategic Plan and the National Security Strategy.

**[06:31:20.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004915)  
These would also be allocated towards strategic engagements at the bilateral, trilateral, and multilateral levels.

**[06:31:30.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004916)  
As well as the monitoring of the NSP and NSS implementations and systems improvement on the administrative side of the NSC.

**[06:31:40.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004917)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[06:31:41.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004918)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to request details on how much was spent on the Philippine National Security Journal.

**[06:32:59.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004924)  
Mr. Speaker, colleague, as for the NSC?

**[06:33:18.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004925)  
With regard to the printing and publication expenses?

**[06:33:24.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004926)  
Yes.

**[06:33:35.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004927)  
This is just for all publications, the printing and publication expenses for 2020.

**[06:33:48.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004928)  
It's 2.1 billion.

**[06:33:52.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004929)  
2.1 billion, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[06:33:54.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004930)  
Million.

**[06:33:55.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004931)  
2.1 million, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:33:58.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004932)  
For all publication expenses.

**[06:34:00.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004933)  
Yes.

**[06:34:00.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004934)  
And not specifically this journal only.

**[06:34:02.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004935)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:34:04.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004936)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd also like to request a breakdown of that data once available.

**[06:34:09.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004937)  
If this week is doable, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:34:15.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-004938)  
Yes, the agency will comply.

**[06:34:18.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004939)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we'd like to take a moment to check the contents, the validity,

**[06:34:27.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004940)  
and even to…

**[06:34:30.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004941)  
To scrutinize whether the budget going to the publication of this journal is indeed

**[06:34:40.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004942)  
money well spent for the public, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:34:45.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004943)  
First of all, we'd like to note that in the foreword of this journal, it is the maiden

**[06:34:53.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004944)  
issue that states that it is vital in advancing scholarly inquiry.

**[06:34:58.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004945)  
Especially to inform policy discourse.

**[06:35:02.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004946)  
And to clarify, this maiden issue of the Philippine Journal on National Security is entitled,

**[06:35:09.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004947)  
Target to Threat, the Psychology and Prevention of Terror Grooming.

**[06:35:15.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004948)  
Where here it says, and in the first page of the journal, that there is a vulnerable stage where young minds,

**[06:35:27.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004949)  
shaped by curiosity,

**[06:35:28.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004950)  
and uncertainty,

**[06:35:30.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004951)  
become potential targets of manipulation

**[06:35:33.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004952)  
and radical influence.

**[06:35:36.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004953)  
It highlights that terror grooming

**[06:35:37.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004954)  
can begin in familiar environments

**[06:35:39.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004955)  
such as schools,

**[06:35:41.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004956)  
where ideologies can quietly take root.

**[06:35:44.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004957)  
So, apparently, this issue

**[06:35:45.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004958)  
would like to advance

**[06:35:47.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004959)  
scholarly inquiry

**[06:35:48.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004960)  
on terror tagging

**[06:35:50.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004961)  
and how vulnerable young minds

**[06:35:53.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004962)  
are in schools

**[06:35:54.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004963)  
for what it describes

**[06:35:57.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004964)  
to be

**[06:35:58.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004965)  
manipulation and radical influence.

**[06:36:05.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004966)  
Yet, how can the journal

**[06:36:07.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004967)  
and agency advance scholarly inquiry

**[06:36:10.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004968)  
when, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:36:13.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004969)  
one, nowhere in the journal

**[06:36:15.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004970)  
does it state that it has

**[06:36:17.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004971)  
gone through peer review policy

**[06:36:19.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004972)  
and has no reviewer list

**[06:36:21.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004973)  
when the editorial board

**[06:36:23.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004974)  
is composed entirely

**[06:36:24.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004975)  
of NSC officials by rank,

**[06:36:26.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004976)  
not independent academic experts.

**[06:36:28.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004977)  
And the editor-in-chief

**[06:36:30.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004978)  
is also a contributing author

**[06:36:32.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004979)  
of two pieces.

**[06:36:34.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004980)  
The editor's note and an article

**[06:36:36.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004981)  
which, to this representation,

**[06:36:38.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004982)  
is a display

**[06:36:40.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004983)  
of conflict of interest.

**[06:36:42.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004984)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:36:44.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004985)  
what is the plan

**[06:36:46.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004986)  
of NSC when it said that this

**[06:36:48.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004987)  
journal will advance

**[06:36:50.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004988)  
scholarly inquiry

**[06:36:52.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004989)  
when it suffers through

**[06:36:54.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004990)  
these limitations

**[06:36:56.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004991)  
of the journal?

**[06:39:23.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005023)  
Mr. Speaker, if it would be possible that our time would be paused

**[06:39:27.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005024)  
While the sponsor

**[06:39:29.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005025)  
confers with the agency.

**[06:40:36.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005027)  
Mr. Speaker, as for the NSC, this journal mentioned by our distinguished colleague is actually a compilation of different editorials from different sectors.

**[06:41:01.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005028)  
This was also produced through the strategic communications cluster of the NTF-ELCAC. We agree that if it were to be deemed a scholarly inquiry, our distinguished colleague is correct that it should be peer reviewed. Claiming that it would be a scholarly inquiry and not

**[06:41:27.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005029)  
it abiding by the standards of

**[06:41:30.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005030)  
academic scholarship is not

**[06:41:35.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005031)  
it wouldn't be

**[06:41:37.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005032)  
it shouldn't qualify then as a scholarship

**[06:41:39.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005033)  
inquiry, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:41:42.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005034)  
So Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:41:44.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005035)  
there is confirmation

**[06:41:46.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005036)  
that this

**[06:41:47.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005037)  
journal, which it purports to

**[06:41:49.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005038)  
be a journal, did not undergo

**[06:41:51.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005039)  
peer review and

**[06:41:53.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005040)  
no reviewer

**[06:41:55.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005041)  
went through the articles

**[06:41:57.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005042)  
to vet them

**[06:42:00.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005043)  
if they pass

**[06:42:01.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005044)  
standards of academic

**[06:42:04.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005045)  
rigor that is expected

**[06:42:05.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005046)  
when we publish

**[06:42:07.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005047)  
any sort of

**[06:42:09.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005048)  
scholarly pursuit

**[06:42:11.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005049)  
in compilations that we

**[06:42:14.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005050)  
purport to be, quote-unquote,

**[06:42:16.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005051)  
journals. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:42:21.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005052)  
As for the stated methodology

**[06:42:24.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005053)  
of the said journal,

**[06:42:25.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005054)  
Mr. Speaker, it employs,

**[06:42:27.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005055)  
comprehensive desktop review from peer-reviewed journals, periodicals, articles, and other studies.

**[06:42:33.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005056)  
It's also conducted key interviews

**[06:42:34.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005057)  
with subject matter experts

**[06:42:36.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005058)  
to reinforce the findings

**[06:42:38.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005059)  
on neuroscience and psychology.

**[06:42:40.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005060)  
Is there a reviewer list, Mr. Speaker?

**[06:42:42.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005061)  
Good sponsor.

**[06:42:43.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005062)  
Because while the description

**[06:42:46.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005063)  
does mention the words

**[06:42:48.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005064)  
peer-review to this representation,

**[06:42:51.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005065)  
desktop review

**[06:42:52.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005066)  
of peer-reviewed journals

**[06:42:53.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005067)  
is not equal to peer-review.

**[06:42:55.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005068)  
We agree.

**[06:42:57.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005069)  
So there's no reviewer list, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:43:01.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005070)  
Good sponsor.

**[06:44:10.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005102)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to save everyone time, we may just request the good sponsor to share any information that it will countercheck, maybe later or by the end of this week. But to note, we did look at the

**[06:44:27.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005103)  
The quote-unquote journal itself, it does not list names of reviewers, and it does not provide a peer review policy.

**[06:44:38.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005104)  
Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, may I move on to my other questions? Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[06:44:45.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005105)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[06:44:46.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005106)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, what this representation has pointed out on issues of peer review,

**[06:44:55.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005107)  
on the list of reviewers.

**[06:45:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005108)  
The members of the editorial board and even the conflict of interest displayed by the Editor-in-Chief

**[06:45:08.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005109)  
is just among the many issues that we've found in this publication.

**[06:45:16.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005110)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, my next question would be,

**[06:45:18.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005111)  
is the NSC aware that an article in this publication cites a source to support its quote-unquote brain-based thesis for terrorism

**[06:45:29.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005112)  
wherein the very source explicitly warns against the very interpretation and use of its work?

**[06:45:36.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005113)  
In particular, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, Bautista, the Editor-in-Chief and a writer of one of the articles in this publication

**[06:45:45.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005114)  
cites the quote-unquote wired brain thesis on Canay et al. as if settled.

**[06:45:52.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005115)  
However, Canay's own team explicitly cautioned against over-interpreting the finding.

**[06:45:58.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005116)  
Thus, this...

**[06:45:59.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005117)  
This thesis remains one of the most heavily scrutinized, weakly replicated studies in political neuroscience.

**[06:46:08.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005118)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, is the NSC aware of this?

**[06:47:07.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005127)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:47:10.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005128)  
Dr.

**[06:47:11.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005129)  
We're talking about Dr. Teodoro Bautista.

**[06:47:14.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005130)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:47:15.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005131)  
Yes, the agency confirms that

**[06:47:17.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005132)  
Dr. Bautista was a consultant

**[06:47:19.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005133)  
for

**[06:47:20.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005134)  
this particular project.

**[06:47:23.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005135)  
For this particular project,

**[06:47:25.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005136)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[06:47:26.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005137)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:47:29.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005138)  
Dr. Teodoro Bautista is also the editor-in-chief

**[06:47:31.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005139)  
and also

**[06:47:33.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005140)  
writer of one of the articles.

**[06:47:35.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005141)  
And it says

**[06:47:37.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005142)  
that

**[06:47:38.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005143)  
this article adopts the

**[06:47:41.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005144)  
wired brain thesis

**[06:47:42.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005145)  
that

**[06:47:44.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005146)  
the publishers

**[06:47:47.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005147)  
of that theory itself

**[06:47:48.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005148)  
explicitly cautioned

**[06:47:51.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005149)  
against over-interpreting the finding.

**[06:47:54.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005150)  
So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:47:55.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005151)  
We'd just like to

**[06:47:57.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005152)  
ask if the NSC is aware

**[06:48:00.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005153)  
that one of the

**[06:48:02.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005154)  
thesis on

**[06:48:04.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005155)  
its articles on terror grooming

**[06:48:06.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005156)  
has a source that explicitly

**[06:48:08.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005157)  
warns against the very

**[06:48:10.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005158)  
interpretation in that thesis

**[06:48:12.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005159)  
and the use of its work.

**[06:48:15.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005160)  
We ask this question,

**[06:48:17.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005161)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, because we'd like to

**[06:48:18.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005162)  
check the scientific,

**[06:48:21.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005163)  
academic, scholarly rigor that

**[06:48:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005164)  
really underwent in the publication

**[06:48:24.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005165)  
of these articles.

**[06:48:26.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005166)  
Was there effort to check the sources

**[06:48:29.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005167)  
and the cautions

**[06:48:30.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005168)  
that these authors

**[06:48:32.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005169)  
gave before any

**[06:48:35.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005170)  
other author can

**[06:48:36.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005171)  
subsequently use and adopt

**[06:48:39.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005172)  
the theories that it

**[06:48:40.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005173)  
had and published

**[06:48:43.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005174)  
in its findings? Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:48:45.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005175)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, the agency

**[06:48:47.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005176)  
commits to

**[06:48:48.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005177)  
speaking with the editorial

**[06:48:51.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005178)  
team that crafted

**[06:48:53.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005179)  
this journal.

**[06:48:54.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005180)  
Especially with regards to this

**[06:48:56.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005181)  
wire-brain thesis and the

**[06:48:59.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005182)  
interpretations that the

**[06:49:00.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005183)  
journal made

**[06:49:03.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005184)  
regarding this thesis.

**[06:49:04.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005185)  
Mr. Speaker. We look forward

**[06:49:07.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005186)  
to whatever the results of that

**[06:49:08.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005187)  
discussion would be, Mr. Speaker,

**[06:49:10.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005188)  
good sponsor, if this representation could

**[06:49:12.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005189)  
be furnished

**[06:49:13.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005190)  
its post-consultation

**[06:49:16.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005191)  
report. But, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:49:19.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005192)  
that's not the only

**[06:49:20.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005193)  
red flag that this

**[06:49:22.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005194)  
representation found perusing

**[06:49:24.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005195)  
this publication.

**[06:49:27.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005196)  
My next question would be, how can

**[06:49:28.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005197)  
the NSC reconcile the direct contradiction

**[06:49:31.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005198)  
between its own articles

**[06:49:33.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005199)  
wherein one article finds

**[06:49:35.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005200)  
quote-unquote terrorists

**[06:49:36.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005201)  
to show no distinguishable

**[06:49:39.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005202)  
psychopathology?

**[06:49:41.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005203)  
So, basically, walang makakapagsabi

**[06:49:42.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005204)  
or walang one neural

**[06:49:45.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005205)  
network or indicator

**[06:49:46.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005206)  
a terrorist can be a terrorist.

**[06:49:49.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005207)  
Pero may isang article naman po

**[06:49:51.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005208)  
ang claim that there is an innate

**[06:49:53.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005209)  
neurological predisposition.

**[06:49:54.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005210)  
For one to be a terrorist.

**[06:49:57.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005211)  
Now, Mr. Speaker,

**[06:49:59.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005212)  
good sponsor, I'd like to give some time

**[06:50:01.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005213)  
to flesh this out

**[06:50:02.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005214)  
as provided in the journal.

**[06:50:05.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005215)  
Now, Bolinao's, Bolinao is

**[06:50:07.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005216)  
one of the authors of the

**[06:50:08.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005217)  
of the publication.

**[06:50:11.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005218)  
It's their own literature review

**[06:50:13.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005219)  
states plainly that there's

**[06:50:15.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005220)  
no evidence that terrorists are mentally

**[06:50:17.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005221)  
disturbed and the outstanding

**[06:50:19.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005222)  
common characteristic of terrorists

**[06:50:21.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005223)  
is normality. These are quotes.

**[06:50:23.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005224)  
It explicitly rejects,

**[06:50:24.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005225)  
individual pathology or

**[06:50:26.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005226)  
trait-based explanations.

**[06:50:28.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005227)  
However, Dr. Bautista's

**[06:50:30.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005228)  
article asserts the opposite.

**[06:50:32.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005229)  
That some people are

**[06:50:34.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005230)  
neurologically predisposed

**[06:50:36.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005231)  
to terrorism. This is a

**[06:50:38.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005232)  
foundational disagreement between the two articles.

**[06:50:40.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005233)  
Then, the editor's

**[06:50:42.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005234)  
note, which Dr. Bautista

**[06:50:44.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005235)  
wrote, which

**[06:50:46.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005236)  
should synthesize the

**[06:50:48.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005237)  
issue's contributions and

**[06:50:50.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005238)  
supposedly weigh their epistemic

**[06:50:52.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005239)  
values, instead,

**[06:50:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005240)  
adopts the weaker, more

**[06:50:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005241)  
scientifically contested claim

**[06:50:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005242)  
uncritically, which is that

**[06:51:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005243)  
meron pong brain structure,

**[06:51:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005244)  
ang mga iilan, that they

**[06:51:04.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005245)  
are quote-unquote more predisposed

**[06:51:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005246)  
to terrorism. Mr. Speaker,

**[06:51:08.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005247)  
good sponsor, what is the explanation that the

**[06:51:10.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005248)  
NSC can provide with us

**[06:51:12.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005249)  
on this? There's a direct contradiction

**[06:51:14.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005250)  
between its own articles.

**[06:51:16.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005251)  
And NSC reconciles

**[06:51:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005252)  
that by siding with the weaker

**[06:51:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005253)  
and more scientifically contested

**[06:51:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005254)  
claim. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:51:24.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005255)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[06:51:26.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005256)  
That is,

**[06:51:28.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005257)  
I think, one of the characteristics

**[06:51:30.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005258)  
of compilations of case

**[06:51:32.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005259)  
studies, given that

**[06:51:34.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005260)  
these case studies

**[06:51:36.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005261)  
are, these are case studies

**[06:51:38.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005262)  
of lived experiences.

**[06:51:40.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005263)  
Those are the contents

**[06:51:42.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005264)  
of the journal, as well as

**[06:51:44.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005265)  
reviews of

**[06:51:46.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005266)  
peer-reviewed

**[06:51:48.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005267)  
journals and articles.

**[06:51:50.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005268)  
So, given that, for example, a

**[06:51:52.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005269)  
case study

**[06:51:54.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005270)  
from one area

**[06:51:56.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005271)  
would encapsulate a different experience

**[06:51:58.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005272)  
versus another case

**[06:52:00.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005273)  
study conducted in another area

**[06:52:02.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005274)  
would encapsulate a different

**[06:52:04.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005275)  
experience. So,

**[06:52:06.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005276)  
there would arise

**[06:52:08.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005277)  
in those kinds of situations

**[06:52:10.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005278)  
contradictions.

**[06:52:12.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005279)  
Given the

**[06:52:14.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005280)  
nature of this journal,

**[06:52:16.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005281)  
is really, as

**[06:52:18.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005282)  
per the agency,

**[06:52:20.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005283)  
a compilation of lived experiences,

**[06:52:22.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005284)  
which

**[06:52:24.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005285)  
are also

**[06:52:26.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005286)  
with incorporations of

**[06:52:28.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005287)  
peer,

**[06:52:30.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005288)  
well, peer-reviewed journals,

**[06:52:32.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005289)  
like excerpts from those

**[06:52:34.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005290)  
peer-reviewed journals.

**[06:52:36.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005291)  
Given that it's

**[06:52:38.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005292)  
a compilation,

**[06:52:40.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005293)  
it really, there would be contradictions.

**[06:52:42.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005294)  
That's for the agency,

**[06:52:44.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005295)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[06:52:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005296)  
Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:52:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005297)  
it is evident in the editor's note

**[06:52:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005298)  
that the editor

**[06:52:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005299)  
in chief

**[06:52:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005300)  
is inclined

**[06:52:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005301)  
to nonetheless

**[06:52:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005302)  
undertake one interpretation

**[06:53:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005303)  
over another.

**[06:53:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005304)  
But, Mr. Speaker, my other question

**[06:53:04.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005305)  
would be

**[06:53:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005306)  
regarding the list of authors.

**[06:53:08.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005307)  
Aside from

**[06:53:10.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005308)  
the issues in particular

**[06:53:12.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005309)  
articles and even in the

**[06:53:14.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005310)  
construction of

**[06:53:16.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005311)  
the compilation,

**[06:53:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005312)  
so to speak,

**[06:53:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005313)  
one of the authors is a professor

**[06:53:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005314)  
at the United

**[06:53:24.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005315)  
of the University of Santo Tomas,

**[06:53:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005316)  
Marlon Villarin.

**[06:53:28.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005317)  
So why has the NSC

**[06:53:30.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005318)  
given

**[06:53:32.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005319)  
Marlon Villarin a platform

**[06:53:34.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005320)  
when he clearly has conflict of interest

**[06:53:36.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005321)  
in the topic at hand?

**[06:53:38.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005322)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, the conflict

**[06:53:40.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005323)  
interest I'm talking about here

**[06:53:42.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005324)  
is that he has filed a

**[06:53:44.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005325)  
50-page complaint against

**[06:53:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005326)  
several student activists

**[06:53:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005327)  
in UST and has been alleged

**[06:53:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005328)  
of red-tagging, defamatory

**[06:53:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005329)  
insinuations, misogynistic

**[06:53:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005330)  
statements, and harassment.

**[06:53:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005331)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, a cursory

**[06:53:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005332)  
glance at his social media

**[06:54:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005333)  
pages provide

**[06:54:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005334)  
a handful, a myriad

**[06:54:04.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005335)  
of these statements

**[06:54:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005336)  
against student activists, in particular

**[06:54:08.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005337)  
female student activists

**[06:54:10.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005338)  
where those that

**[06:54:12.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005339)  
are subject

**[06:54:14.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005340)  
to his ire would be

**[06:54:16.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005341)  
the target of misogynistic

**[06:54:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005342)  
statements alongside

**[06:54:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005343)  
red-tagging and harassment.

**[06:54:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005344)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, in the article

**[06:54:24.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005345)  
that Marlon Villarin

**[06:54:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005346)  
published under this

**[06:54:28.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005347)  
publication, and I'd like

**[06:54:30.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005348)  
the

**[06:54:32.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005349)  
pleasure of the body

**[06:54:34.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005350)  
into just letting me quote

**[06:54:36.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005351)  
in particular a portion

**[06:54:38.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005352)  
of the article he stated.

**[06:54:40.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005353)  
He said that

**[06:54:42.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005354)  
HEIs afford an opportunity

**[06:54:44.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005355)  
to students to air the voices

**[06:54:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005356)  
of fellow students besides

**[06:54:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005357)  
being involved in policy formulation

**[06:54:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005358)  
within the institution.

**[06:54:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005359)  
Socially political active organizations

**[06:54:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005360)  
refer to the National

**[06:54:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005361)  
Union of Students of the Philippines

**[06:54:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005362)  
which conducts political

**[06:55:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005363)  
campaigns like voter registration

**[06:55:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005364)  
and educational reforms

**[06:55:04.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005365)  
among other social activities.

**[06:55:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005366)  
However,

**[06:55:08.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005367)  
the student participation

**[06:55:10.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005368)  
in civic activities

**[06:55:12.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005369)  
both on a classroom and extracurricular

**[06:55:14.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005370)  
basis poses

**[06:55:16.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005371)  
risk of radicalization

**[06:55:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005372)  
and extremism if not properly

**[06:55:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005373)  
mentored or supervised.

**[06:55:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005374)  
In this regard, extremism

**[06:55:24.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005375)  
is not far-fetched across such

**[06:55:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005376)  
political education.

**[06:55:28.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005377)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, to me this is absurd

**[06:55:30.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005378)  
how it links

**[06:55:32.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005379)  
political activities, civic

**[06:55:34.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005380)  
activities like voters education

**[06:55:36.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005381)  
and educational reforms to

**[06:55:38.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005382)  
risk of radicalization

**[06:55:40.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005383)  
and extremism. Mr. Speaker, good

**[06:55:42.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005384)  
sponsor, I'd like an explanation.

**[06:55:44.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005385)  
Why is this professor one of the

**[06:55:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005386)  
authors in this

**[06:55:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005387)  
compilation when

**[06:55:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005388)  
he can be said that

**[06:55:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005389)  
his entire

**[06:55:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005390)  
academic rigor on this topic

**[06:55:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005391)  
is under question given that

**[06:55:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005392)  
his conflict

**[06:56:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005393)  
of interest exists?

**[06:56:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005394)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:56:04.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005395)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, the agency

**[06:56:06.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005396)  
notes that concern

**[06:56:08.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005397)  
by Mr. Grish's colleague.

**[06:56:10.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005398)  
The agency will

**[06:56:12.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005399)  
consult with the strategic

**[06:56:14.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005400)  
communications cluster of the

**[06:56:16.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005401)  
NTF-ELCAC given that

**[06:56:18.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005402)  
this journal was published

**[06:56:20.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005403)  
through the strategic communications

**[06:56:22.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005404)  
cluster of the ELCAC.

**[06:56:24.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005405)  
This cluster is tasked with

**[06:56:26.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005406)  
looking at and approving

**[06:56:28.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005407)  
the contributing authors

**[06:56:30.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005408)  
of journals

**[06:56:32.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005409)  
that come out of that cluster.

**[06:56:34.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005410)  
So, we will inform our distinguished

**[06:56:36.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005411)  
colleague with regards to the

**[06:56:38.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005412)  
results of that consultation.

**[06:56:40.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005413)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:56:42.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005414)  
does the NSE plan to publish more

**[06:56:44.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005415)  
journals? Through what process?

**[06:56:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005416)  
And what will be the topics?

**[06:56:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005417)  
Will we expect

**[06:56:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005418)  
the same level of

**[06:56:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005419)  
in this

**[06:56:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005420)  
representation opinion

**[06:56:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005421)  
carelessness in vetting

**[06:56:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005422)  
the list of authors who will be

**[06:57:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005423)  
collaborated with

**[06:57:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005424)  
in these publications

**[06:57:04.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005425)  
and the objectives of the journals?

**[06:57:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005426)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[06:57:10.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005427)  
There are no

**[06:57:12.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005428)  
publications in line

**[06:57:14.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005429)  
as of now,

**[06:57:16.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005430)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[06:57:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005431)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:57:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005432)  
we note the answer of the

**[06:57:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005433)  
sponsor after conferring with the

**[06:57:24.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005434)  
agency.

**[06:57:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005435)  
But if anything, this should be seen

**[06:57:28.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005436)  
as a state attempt to intellectualize

**[06:57:30.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005437)  
and legitimize a concept.

**[06:57:32.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005438)  
The concept of quote unquote

**[06:57:34.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005439)  
terror grooming, style like a journal

**[06:57:36.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005440)  
which now we have heard on the floor

**[06:57:38.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005441)  
that is a compilation.

**[06:57:40.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005442)  
That is the more accurate term

**[06:57:42.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005443)  
to purvey that intellectual

**[06:57:44.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005444)  
legitimacy.

**[06:57:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005445)  
While not being thorough with the actual

**[06:57:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005446)  
process of academic rigor,

**[06:57:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005447)  
review, and criticism.

**[06:57:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005448)  
This means that none of its claims

**[06:57:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005449)  
should be

**[06:57:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005450)  
passed independent expert scrutiny

**[06:57:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005451)  
before publication.

**[06:58:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005452)  
Which directly puts into the doubt

**[06:58:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005453)  
its validity as a concept and the weight

**[06:58:04.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005454)  
it should carry in policy debate.

**[06:58:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005455)  
And Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:58:08.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005456)  
the very fact that NTF-LCAC

**[06:58:10.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005457)  
has to be one of the

**[06:58:12.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005458)  
advised in these

**[06:58:14.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005459)  
publications is already

**[06:58:16.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005460)  
a red flag that we'd like to note.

**[06:58:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005461)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[06:58:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005462)  
as a last line of questioning

**[06:58:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005463)  
of this representation,

**[06:58:24.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005464)  
I'd like to ask

**[06:58:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005465)  
because in the text

**[06:58:28.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005466)  
of the journal, it explicitly

**[06:58:30.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005467)  
states that

**[06:58:32.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005468)  
socio-economic inequalities

**[06:58:34.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005469)  
like poverty, land dispossession,

**[06:58:36.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005470)  
injustices,

**[06:58:38.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005471)  
marginalization, historical trauma,

**[06:58:40.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005472)  
etc. are recognized

**[06:58:42.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005473)  
but these structures

**[06:58:44.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005474)  
and social realities

**[06:58:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005475)  
the journal says

**[06:58:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005476)  
are stated to be

**[06:58:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005477)  
quote unquote exploited

**[06:58:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005478)  
by groomers rather than seen

**[06:58:54.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005479)  
as independently valid

**[06:58:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005480)  
grievances. They are seen as

**[06:58:58.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005481)  
factors but not the basis

**[06:59:00.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005482)  
for extremism and

**[06:59:02.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005483)  
psychologies are the primary cause

**[06:59:04.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005484)  
of extremism. Mr. Speaker,

**[06:59:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005485)  
good sponsor, given that this

**[06:59:08.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005486)  
compilation names poverty,

**[06:59:10.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005487)  
historical injustice as unresolved

**[06:59:12.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005488)  
root causes for extremism,

**[06:59:14.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005489)  
why

**[06:59:16.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005490)  
do none of its recommendations

**[06:59:18.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005491)  
involve land reform, economic redistribution,

**[06:59:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005492)  
negotiated political

**[06:59:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005493)  
settlement, etc.?

**[06:59:24.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005494)  
Why does this stop at merely

**[06:59:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005495)  
just recognition, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[06:59:50.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005496)  
Yes,

**[06:59:52.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005497)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[06:59:54.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005498)  
the agency notes

**[06:59:56.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005499)  
those recommendations

**[06:59:58.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005500)  
given also that

**[07:00:00.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005501)  
there is a shift in

**[07:00:01.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005502)  
how the NSC also looks at

**[07:00:03.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005503)  
national security, so

**[07:00:05.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005504)  
beyond the conventional

**[07:00:07.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005505)  
perspective of national security

**[07:00:09.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005506)  
towards human security.

**[07:00:11.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005507)  
So, economic security,

**[07:00:14.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005508)  
economic dignity, food security,

**[07:00:15.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005509)  
energy, water, and all of

**[07:00:17.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005510)  
the basic needs. So, this is, this

**[07:00:19.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005511)  
should be part also

**[07:00:21.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005512)  
of the recommendations

**[07:00:23.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005513)  
in subsequent reports

**[07:00:26.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005514)  
by the NSC. Mr. Speaker.

**[07:00:28.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005515)  
Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:00:30.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005516)  
in the policy recommendations

**[07:00:31.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005517)  
of this compilation,

**[07:00:34.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005518)  
they lay it out in an acronym

**[07:00:35.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005519)  
called DECAL, and it

**[07:00:38.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005520)  
very much

**[07:00:39.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005521)  
focuses instead of, one,

**[07:00:42.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005522)  
detecting these terror groomers

**[07:00:43.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005523)  
online and offline,

**[07:00:46.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005524)  
two, exposing them through a

**[07:00:47.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005525)  
terror groomer national registry

**[07:00:50.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005526)  
and forward them to major

**[07:00:51.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005527)  
institutions like schools,

**[07:00:53.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005528)  
three, control the incidences of

**[07:00:55.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005529)  
terror grooming by allowing our law enforcement

**[07:00:58.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005530)  
to patrol online platforms

**[07:01:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005531)  
and deploy digital forensics,

**[07:01:01.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005532)  
which, by the way, Mr. Speaker, is a

**[07:01:03.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005533)  
violation of the right to privacy.

**[07:01:06.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005534)  
Four, arrest

**[07:01:08.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005535)  
and prosecute terror groomers

**[07:01:09.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005536)  
using the anti-terrorism

**[07:01:12.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005537)  
law, which, up until now, we have

**[07:01:14.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005538)  
a continuing critique

**[07:01:15.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005539)  
of being unconstitutional and

**[07:01:17.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005540)  
vague and overbroad, and number five,

**[07:01:20.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005541)  
legislate new measures to

**[07:01:21.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005542)  
regulate radical and extremist

**[07:01:24.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005543)  
consent. We note,

**[07:01:25.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005544)  
and we know, the

**[07:01:27.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005545)  
sponsor,

**[07:01:29.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005546)  
or,

**[07:01:30.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005547)  
to understand,

**[07:01:31.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005548)  
at the end of the day,

**[07:01:33.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005549)  
when we talk about human security,

**[07:01:35.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005550)  
that is also ensuring economic

**[07:01:37.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005551)  
security, social security, etc. But,

**[07:01:39.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005552)  
unfortunately, the

**[07:01:41.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005553)  
agency which is being defended

**[07:01:43.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005554)  
on the floor by the sponsor

**[07:01:45.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005555)  
does not forward

**[07:01:47.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005556)  
any recommendations to

**[07:01:49.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005557)  
that direction. Mr. Speaker,

**[07:01:51.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005558)  
good sponsor, final questions.

**[07:01:54.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005559)  
May we ask

**[07:01:55.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005560)  
if the NSC believes that a college

**[07:01:57.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005561)  
aged student is capable

**[07:01:59.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005562)  
of their own choices?

**[07:02:01.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005563)  
How about a farmer, a worker,

**[07:02:04.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005564)  
a unionist, a teacher,

**[07:02:06.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005565)  
an indigenous Filipino,

**[07:02:07.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005566)  
a practicing Muslim? Do these

**[07:02:09.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005567)  
individuals

**[07:02:12.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005568)  
exhibit

**[07:02:13.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005569)  
capability of their own choices,

**[07:02:15.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005570)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[07:02:23.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005571)  
However, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[07:02:28.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005572)  
their

**[07:02:29.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005573)  
these individuals

**[07:02:30.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005574)  
and the sectors they belong to

**[07:02:33.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005575)  
are amongst the list of

**[07:02:34.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005576)  
quote-unquote vulnerable sectors the journal

**[07:02:36.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005577)  
tries to say that are being groomed into

**[07:02:38.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005578)  
radicalization. Sabi pa nga po

**[07:02:41.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005579)  
dito na ginagamit ng mga terror groomers

**[07:02:43.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005580)  
ang mga kahirapan na

**[07:02:45.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005581)  
hinaharap nila, mga political,

**[07:02:47.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005582)  
economic, social issues, para

**[07:02:48.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005583)  
quote-unquote, i-groom sila.

**[07:02:51.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005584)  
So, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[07:02:53.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005585)  
as my time is up,

**[07:02:55.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005586)  
we'd like again to

**[07:02:56.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005587)  
request the information,

**[07:02:58.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005588)  
provided, but

**[07:03:00.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005589)  
we are highly critical of

**[07:03:02.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005590)  
this publication purporting itself

**[07:03:04.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005591)  
to be a journal but did not undergo

**[07:03:06.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005592)  
the necessary

**[07:03:08.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005593)  
scholarly academic rigor

**[07:03:10.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005594)  
to really advance

**[07:03:12.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005595)  
scientific discussion and be

**[07:03:14.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005596)  
part of the policy debate

**[07:03:16.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005597)  
and more insidiously

**[07:03:18.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005598)  
is painting

**[07:03:20.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005599)  
political activities, political

**[07:03:22.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005600)  
engagement to be

**[07:03:24.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005601)  
pathways for quote-unquote

**[07:03:26.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005602)  
terror grooming. That has no

**[07:03:28.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005603)  
place in a policy debate, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:03:30.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005604)  
good sponsor. Thank you for answering the questions

**[07:03:32.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005605)  
to the good sponsor. I yield my time

**[07:03:34.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-005606)  
to the floor.

**[07:03:35.398] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-005607)  
Thank you, Honorable

**[07:03:37.478] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-005608)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:03:40.320] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-005609)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[07:03:41.140] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-005610)  
I move that we recognize

**[07:03:42.700] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-005611)  
the Honorable Representative

**[07:03:44.680] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-005612)  
Antonio Tinio of

**[07:03:46.820] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-005613)  
ACT Teachers Party List to interpolate

**[07:03:48.920] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-005614)  
on the proposed budget of the National

**[07:03:50.620] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-005615)  
Security Council.

**[07:03:51.920] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-005616)  
Honorable Antonio Tinio is recognized.

**[07:03:53.960] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-005617)  
Please proceed.

**[07:03:58.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005618)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:04:01.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005619)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[07:04:04.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005620)  
mga tanong ko po

**[07:04:05.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005621)  
ay mas may kinalaman

**[07:04:06.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005622)  
sa

**[07:04:07.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005623)  
national security

**[07:04:10.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005624)  
policy.

**[07:04:11.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005625)  
Of course,

**[07:04:14.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005626)  
ang NSE,

**[07:04:15.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005627)  
ang lead

**[07:04:16.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005628)  
agency or opisina

**[07:04:19.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005629)  
na responsable

**[07:04:22.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005630)  
sa pag-formulate ng umiiral

**[07:04:23.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005631)  
national security policy ng bansa.

**[07:04:26.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005632)  
So, meron po silang nilabas.

**[07:04:28.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005633)  
Ito po, buti na lang.

**[07:04:34.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005634)  
Binigyan po ako kanina.

**[07:04:35.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005635)  
Salamat po

**[07:04:35.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005636)  
ng hard copy.

**[07:04:39.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005637)  
Kung pwede rin po makahingi ng e-copy

**[07:04:40.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005638)  
para mas madali i-circulate.

**[07:04:43.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005639)  
National

**[07:04:44.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005640)  
security policy

**[07:04:47.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005641)  
2023-2028.

**[07:04:51.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005642)  
And the accompanying

**[07:04:53.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005643)  
National Security Strategy

**[07:04:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005644)  
document.

**[07:04:57.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005645)  
Actually,

**[07:04:58.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005646)  
maraming pwedeng itanong dito.

**[07:05:00.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005647)  
Pero, given the limited

**[07:05:02.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005648)  
time, actually, I will just focus

**[07:05:04.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005649)  
on the

**[07:05:06.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005650)  
discussion on

**[07:05:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005651)  
the strategic environment.

**[07:05:10.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005652)  
In particular,

**[07:05:13.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005653)  
of course,

**[07:05:16.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005654)  
dati nang kasama

**[07:05:18.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005655)  
sa discussion

**[07:05:19.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005656)  
ng pag-usapin ng

**[07:05:22.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005657)  
external security

**[07:05:23.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005658)  
in West Philippine Sea issue.

**[07:05:26.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005659)  
So, that is quite familiar.

**[07:05:28.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005660)  
Alam natin yung issue

**[07:05:32.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005661)  
ng West Philippine Sea

**[07:05:35.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005662)  
ruling,

**[07:05:38.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005663)  
the arbitral ruling,

**[07:05:40.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005664)  
won by the Philippines

**[07:05:42.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005665)  
and the

**[07:05:44.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005666)  
baseless and illegal claim

**[07:05:46.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005667)  
of China

**[07:05:49.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005668)  
that they have sovereignty

**[07:05:50.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005669)  
over

**[07:05:51.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005670)  
almost

**[07:05:54.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005671)  
very significant portions

**[07:05:56.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005672)  
of our

**[07:05:58.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005673)  
exclusive economic zones.

**[07:06:00.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005674)  
So, alam na natin yun.

**[07:06:02.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005675)  
And,

**[07:06:03.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005676)  
in the National Security Policy,

**[07:06:07.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005677)  
it says here,

**[07:06:08.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005678)  
the West Philippine Sea issue

**[07:06:10.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005679)  
remains a primary national interest

**[07:06:12.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005680)  
of the Philippines.

**[07:06:13.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005681)  
So, malinaw naman po yun.

**[07:06:15.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005682)  
However,

**[07:06:16.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005683)  
ang isang relatively bago po

**[07:06:19.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005684)  
na sinama na

**[07:06:22.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005685)  
the National Security Strategy,

**[07:06:24.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005686)  
this is on page 14

**[07:06:26.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005687)  
for reference of the

**[07:06:27.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005688)  
sponsor.

**[07:06:30.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005689)  
Sinabi po rito,

**[07:06:31.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005690)  
major concern

**[07:06:33.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005691)  
is also seen

**[07:06:34.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005692)  
in the cross-straits relations

**[07:06:36.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005693)  
that has the potential

**[07:06:39.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005694)  
to be the flashpoint

**[07:06:40.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005695)  
in the region.

**[07:06:43.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005696)  
So, the Philippines

**[07:06:44.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005697)  
is concerned about

**[07:06:45.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005698)  
its economic stability,

**[07:06:48.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005699)  
a potential influx

**[07:06:49.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005700)  
of refugees,

**[07:06:52.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005701)  
and the welfare

**[07:06:52.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005702)  
of overseas populations.

**[07:06:56.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005703)  
Any military conflict

**[07:06:57.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005704)  
in the Taiwan Strait

**[07:06:58.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005705)  
would inevitably affect

**[07:06:59.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005706)  
the Philippines.

**[07:07:01.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005707)  
Given the geographic

**[07:07:02.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005708)  
proximity of Taiwan

**[07:07:04.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005709)  
to the Philippine Archipelago

**[07:07:05.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005710)  
and the presence

**[07:07:07.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005711)  
of over 150,000

**[07:07:09.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005712)  
Filipinos

**[07:07:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005713)  
in Taiwan.

**[07:07:13.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005714)  
So,

**[07:07:15.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005715)  
ngayon po,

**[07:07:16.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005716)  
nasasama na rin po

**[07:07:17.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005717)  
sa National Security Policy

**[07:07:20.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005718)  
yung consideration

**[07:07:21.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005719)  
ng

**[07:07:22.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005720)  
tawag dito

**[07:07:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005721)  
cross-straits relations

**[07:07:26.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005722)  
ang tinutukoy po.

**[07:07:27.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005723)  
So, yung

**[07:07:27.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005724)  
Taiwan.

**[07:07:30.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005725)  
And of course,

**[07:07:32.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005726)  
the One China Policy

**[07:07:33.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005727)  
where China

**[07:07:35.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005728)  
asserts that

**[07:07:39.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005729)  
Taiwan is a

**[07:07:42.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005730)  
province of China.

**[07:07:44.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005731)  
Diba?

**[07:07:45.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005732)  
And,

**[07:07:46.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005733)  
officially,

**[07:07:47.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005734)  
this is

**[07:07:48.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005735)  
a policy that is also

**[07:07:50.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005736)  
recognized by the Philippines.

**[07:07:52.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005737)  
Ganun yun, diba?

**[07:07:53.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005738)  
Okay.

**[07:07:55.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005739)  
However, dito sinabi na rito,

**[07:07:57.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005740)  
any military conflict

**[07:07:59.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005741)  
in the Taiwan Strait

**[07:08:00.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005742)  
would inevitably affect

**[07:08:02.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005743)  
the Philippines.

**[07:08:03.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005744)  
So, yung pagkakasabi po

**[07:08:05.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005745)  
ng would inevitably

**[07:08:07.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005746)  
affect the Philippines.

**[07:08:09.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005747)  
Pwede po bang mag-elaborate

**[07:08:11.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005748)  
ang National Security Council

**[07:08:13.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005749)  
dito sa

**[07:08:14.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005750)  
inevitability?

**[07:08:17.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005751)  
Kasi,

**[07:08:18.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005752)  
ang Pangulo po,

**[07:08:20.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005753)  
presumably,

**[07:08:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005754)  
batay sa input

**[07:08:21.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005755)  
ng National Security Council

**[07:08:23.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005756)  
on numerous occasions,

**[07:08:24.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005757)  
has stated na,

**[07:08:26.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005758)  
sa ayaw natin,

**[07:08:28.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005759)  
sa gusto natin,

**[07:08:30.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005760)  
madadamay tayo

**[07:08:32.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005761)  
sa gera

**[07:08:33.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005762)  
pag nagkaroon ng gera

**[07:08:35.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005763)  
sa pagitan ng US

**[07:08:37.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005764)  
at China

**[07:08:39.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005765)  
kaugnay sa Taiwan.

**[07:08:42.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005766)  
So, I'm assuming

**[07:08:43.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005767)  
those statements of the President

**[07:08:46.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005768)  
are based on this

**[07:08:48.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005769)  
input by the

**[07:08:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005770)  
National Security Council.

**[07:08:53.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005771)  
Ilang beses niya na sinabi yan na

**[07:08:56.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005772)  
parang no choice,

**[07:08:59.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005773)  
inevitably,

**[07:09:00.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005774)  
we will be involved

**[07:09:01.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005775)  
in a conflict

**[07:09:04.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005776)  
with Taiwan.

**[07:09:07.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005777)  
So, ang kinikwestiyon po natin,

**[07:09:08.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005778)  
yung idea ng

**[07:09:10.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005779)  
inevitability.

**[07:09:12.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005780)  
Is it really inevitable?

**[07:09:13.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005781)  
Bakit po nasabi ng

**[07:09:14.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005782)  
National Security Council

**[07:09:17.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005783)  
na inevitable ito?

**[07:09:19.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005784)  
That we would be inevitably

**[07:09:21.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005785)  
drawn into this conflict?

**[07:09:25.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005786)  
Yes.

**[07:09:26.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005787)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[07:09:27.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005788)  
given that Taiwan

**[07:09:28.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005789)  
is a hundred kilometers away

**[07:09:30.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005790)  
from Philippine territory,

**[07:09:33.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005791)  
really the NSC is gauging

**[07:09:35.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005792)  
the risks regarding

**[07:09:37.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005793)  
the proximity in terms of

**[07:09:39.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005794)  
the spillover effects.

**[07:09:40.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005795)  
So, not so much

**[07:09:41.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005796)  
more of the

**[07:09:44.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005797)  
evacuation of OFWs

**[07:09:47.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005798)  
and the potential evacuation

**[07:09:49.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005799)  
of different nationalities.

**[07:09:51.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005800)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[07:09:52.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005801)  
so that is the basis

**[07:09:54.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005802)  
for the statement.

**[07:09:56.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005803)  
By the NSC and the

**[07:09:57.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005804)  
National Strategic Plan.

**[07:10:00.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005805)  
Okay. So, ang ibig niyo po sabihin nun,

**[07:10:02.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005806)  
mainly, it's

**[07:10:03.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005807)  
inevitable in the sense,

**[07:10:07.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005808)  
well, inevitably

**[07:10:08.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005809)  
affect the Philippines,

**[07:10:09.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005810)  
would inevitably affect the Philippines

**[07:10:12.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005811)  
given the

**[07:10:14.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005812)  
geographic proximity and

**[07:10:16.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005813)  
the OFWs in Taiwan.

**[07:10:20.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005814)  
Parang ganon.

**[07:10:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005815)  
So, yun ang ibig sabihin dun.

**[07:10:23.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005816)  
Pero,

**[07:10:24.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005817)  
does the NSC also

**[07:10:26.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005818)  
see that

**[07:10:27.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005819)  
or is it part of the

**[07:10:30.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005820)  
analysis that

**[07:10:31.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005821)  
the Philippines would

**[07:10:34.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005822)  
be involved in the

**[07:10:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005823)  
conflict as

**[07:10:38.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005824)  
in effect,

**[07:10:41.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005825)  
a belligerent?

**[07:10:43.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005826)  
Ganon.

**[07:10:44.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005827)  
Na ma-involve tayo sa gera.

**[07:10:48.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005828)  
Meron bang ganong

**[07:10:48.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005829)  
assessment ang NSC?

**[07:10:56.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005830)  
Yes. Mr. Speaker,

**[07:10:58.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005831)  
more so the assessment of the NSC

**[07:11:00.700] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005832)  
is more of the risk on the evacuation

**[07:11:02.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005833)  
of the OFWs,

**[07:11:05.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005834)  
the different nationals

**[07:11:07.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005835)  
with regards to also

**[07:11:09.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005836)  
our humanitarian efforts

**[07:11:10.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005837)  
here in the Philippines.

**[07:11:12.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005838)  
So, not so much yung kung

**[07:11:14.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005839)  
ma-involve tayo as a party at war.

**[07:11:18.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005840)  
Parang ganon.

**[07:11:19.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005841)  
Involved in arms conflict.

**[07:11:21.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005842)  
Not so much, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:11:22.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005843)  
Okay. Now,

**[07:11:24.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005844)  
si Pangulong Marcos,

**[07:11:26.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005845)  
and presumably ang mga

**[07:11:28.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005846)  
statement niya may input ng

**[07:11:30.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005847)  
NSC on this

**[07:11:32.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005848)  
matter, and of course

**[07:11:34.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005849)  
the President is

**[07:11:36.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005850)  
the Chief Architect

**[07:11:38.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005851)  
of Foreign Policy, di ba?

**[07:11:40.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005852)  
Siya ang nagtatakda niyan.

**[07:11:42.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005853)  
In a recent interview

**[07:11:44.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005854)  
with

**[07:11:47.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005855)  
FOCAP, with the

**[07:11:48.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005856)  
Foreign Correspondents

**[07:11:50.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005857)  
Association of the Philippines,

**[07:11:53.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005858)  
August ito.

**[07:11:54.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005859)  
Yung last August,

**[07:11:56.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005860)  
he made some statement,

**[07:11:58.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005861)  
the following statements, no?

**[07:12:01.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005862)  
That the Philippines

**[07:12:02.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005863)  
will not allow

**[07:12:05.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005864)  
other countries to use

**[07:12:06.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005865)  
its bases in the event of a war

**[07:12:08.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005866)  
between China and Taiwan.

**[07:12:11.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005867)  
Quote,

**[07:12:12.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005868)  
Philippines has no desire to be a

**[07:12:14.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005869)  
belligerent nation in the region.

**[07:12:17.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005870)  
Okay?

**[07:12:20.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005871)  
And,

**[07:12:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005872)  
to quote further,

**[07:12:23.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005873)  
no,

**[07:12:24.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005874)  
there will be no attacks on

**[07:12:26.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005875)  
anyone from the Philippines.

**[07:12:29.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005876)  
We have no interest in that.

**[07:12:31.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005877)  
Unquote.

**[07:12:35.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005878)  
All we are concerned

**[07:12:36.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005879)  
about is the defense of our territory

**[07:12:38.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005880)  
and the maintenance of peace and stability

**[07:12:40.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005881)  
in the region.

**[07:12:42.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005882)  
That is all that the

**[07:12:44.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005883)  
Philippines is concerned with. That is

**[07:12:46.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005884)  
all the Philippines will promote. That is

**[07:12:48.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005885)  
all that the Philippines will endorse

**[07:12:50.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005886)  
and support.

**[07:12:53.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005887)  
So, ayun po. Medyo malinaw po

**[07:12:55.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005888)  
yung mga pahayag.

**[07:12:56.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005889)  
Na, no attacks

**[07:12:58.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005890)  
from the Philippines.

**[07:13:01.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005891)  
The Philippines will not

**[07:13:02.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005892)  
allow any attacks from anyone in the Philippines.

**[07:13:05.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005893)  
Of course, ang context nito,

**[07:13:07.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005894)  
kahit nung tinanong, is

**[07:13:08.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005895)  
the mutual

**[07:13:10.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005896)  
defense treaty with the US.

**[07:13:13.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005897)  
So, paano kung na-involve ang

**[07:13:14.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005898)  
US sa gera

**[07:13:16.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005899)  
laban sa China over Taiwan?

**[07:13:18.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005900)  
Bagay na pinag-ahandaan

**[07:13:20.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005901)  
ng US.

**[07:13:22.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005902)  
No?

**[07:13:24.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005903)  
As far as,

**[07:13:26.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005904)  
the US

**[07:13:27.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005905)  
defense policy

**[07:13:30.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005906)  
is concerned,

**[07:13:32.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005907)  
meron silang tinatawag na Davidson

**[07:13:34.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005908)  
window after some

**[07:13:35.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005909)  
general

**[07:13:37.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005910)  
who claimed

**[07:13:40.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005911)  
that

**[07:13:42.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005912)  
2027

**[07:13:45.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005913)  
is the target date

**[07:13:46.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005914)  
of China

**[07:13:48.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005915)  
based on Xi Jinping

**[07:13:50.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005916)  
pronouncement

**[07:13:52.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005917)  
to be ready for an

**[07:13:54.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005918)  
invasion of Taiwan.

**[07:13:56.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005919)  
For the forcible

**[07:13:58.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005920)  
integration of Taiwan

**[07:13:59.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005921)  
or unification of Taiwan

**[07:14:02.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005922)  
with China. So, meron silang

**[07:14:04.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005923)  
nominal,

**[07:14:06.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005924)  
at least as far as the US

**[07:14:07.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005925)  
defense establishment is concerned,

**[07:14:11.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005926)  
yun ang framework nila na

**[07:14:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005927)  
2027,

**[07:14:13.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005928)  
China will be prepared

**[07:14:15.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005929)  
and may actually

**[07:14:18.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005930)  
launch an actual

**[07:14:22.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005931)  
invasion of

**[07:14:24.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005932)  
China. Meron ganon.

**[07:14:25.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005933)  
No?

**[07:14:26.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005934)  
So, in that event, ano mangyayari sa Pilipinas?

**[07:14:30.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005935)  
Sumasang ayon po ba?

**[07:14:32.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005936)  
O tama po ba ang

**[07:14:34.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005937)  
or

**[07:14:35.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005938)  
klaro po ang sinabi ng Pangulo?

**[07:14:38.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005939)  
Sabi, no

**[07:14:39.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005940)  
no attacks.

**[07:14:42.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005941)  
Hindi pwedeng gamitin

**[07:14:44.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005942)  
ang

**[07:14:44.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005943)  
Pilipinas bilang lunsara

**[07:14:47.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005944)  
ng atake

**[07:14:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005945)  
sa ibang bansa.

**[07:14:51.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005946)  
Okay.

**[07:14:52.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005947)  
Is that confirmed by

**[07:14:53.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005948)  
the analysis and standpoint?

**[07:14:56.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005949)  
of the National Security

**[07:14:58.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005950)  
Council. Ganun nga po ba talaga?

**[07:15:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005951)  
ang pagtingin natin na hindi maaaring gamitin ang Pilipinas.

**[07:15:04.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005952)  
Alam natin maraming mga base na binukas ang Pilipinas sa U.S. under EDCA.

**[07:15:11.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005953)  
Many of them are precisely in the northern Luzon.

**[07:15:17.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005954)  
Dahil nga ang interest ng U.S. ay Taiwan.

**[07:15:21.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005955)  
So ang pinakamga bagong binuksan dyan, yung sa Lalo Airport,

**[07:15:24.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005956)  
ano pa ba, sa Isabela, meron din, diba?

**[07:15:32.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005957)  
Of course, yung Fort Magsaysay.

**[07:15:34.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005958)  
These are currently, as well as non-EDCA sites, lalo na yung Batanes,

**[07:15:40.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005959)  
yung U.S. nag-invest para i-upgrade yung mga port facilities in Batanes,

**[07:15:50.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005960)  
including the northernmost island.

**[07:15:54.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005961)  
Yun yatang mabulis.

**[07:15:56.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005962)  
So yung U.S. naghahanda dyan.

**[07:16:01.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005963)  
Yung U.S. military, they regularly hold exercises with the Philippines.

**[07:16:07.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005964)  
May mga nakabasis silang assets, including Air Force assets na nagpapatrolya.

**[07:16:15.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005965)  
From Lalo Airfield to the northern portions of Luzon,

**[07:16:21.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005966)  
including over the Luzon Strait,

**[07:16:24.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005967)  
precisely in preparation for this so-called Taiwan conflict.

**[07:16:31.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005968)  
So, ganun nga po ba ang pagtingin ng NSA na hindi maaaring gamitin

**[07:16:41.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005969)  
ang mga basing ito ng U.S. para gawing lunsara ng atake kontra sa China?

**[07:16:51.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005970)  
Tama po ba?

**[07:16:52.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005971)  
Is that consistent with the pronouncement?

**[07:16:54.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005972)  
Is that consistent with the pronouncement of the President?

**[07:17:03.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-005973)  
Yes, the agency agrees with our distinguished colleague.

**[07:17:07.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005974)  
Yes.

**[07:17:08.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005975)  
O, yun lang. Yun yung sagot.

**[07:17:10.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005976)  
Okay, then, question.

**[07:17:12.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005977)  
Isa po sa mga well-known and controversial deployments made by the U.S.

**[07:17:20.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005978)  
under the Mutual Defense Treaty,

**[07:17:23.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005979)  
EDCA,

**[07:17:24.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005980)  
and so on,

**[07:17:25.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005981)  
is the deployment of the Typhoon missile system.

**[07:17:31.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005982)  
So, meron pong launcher.

**[07:17:33.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005983)  
Yung Typhoon launcher.

**[07:17:34.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005984)  
And in fact,

**[07:17:36.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005985)  
initially,

**[07:17:38.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005986)  
it is well known that it was deployed

**[07:17:43.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005987)  
at Balawag Airport.

**[07:17:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005988)  
Itang kita po doon.

**[07:17:47.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005989)  
Nandun yung launcher.

**[07:17:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005990)  
So, may complex yan.

**[07:17:53.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005991)  
Merong mga, mainly, it's a mobile launcher.

**[07:17:58.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005992)  
May malaking track, may mahabang trailer.

**[07:18:01.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005993)  
Tapos nandun yung launcher.

**[07:18:03.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005994)  
And it is also well known that the system is capable of launching the Tomahawk missile,

**[07:18:16.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005995)  
which is an offensive weapon.

**[07:18:18.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005996)  
No?

**[07:18:19.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005997)  
Precisely, it is, uh?

**[07:18:26.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005999)  
We can call it a long-range weapon, something like 1,600 kilometers

**[07:18:29.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006000)  
mula sa Northern Luzon, abot na abot sa, hindi lang sa Taiwan,

**[07:18:33.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006001)  
kung hindi kahit sa mainland China.

**[07:18:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006002)  
At hindi lang dineploy doon, nananatili pa rin nakadeploy ngayon,

**[07:18:41.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006003)  
and just recently, a few months ago, there was a test firing

**[07:18:45.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006004)  
of the Typhoon missile system from Tacloban Airport

**[07:18:50.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006005)  
tapos yung target, the test target was in Fort Magsaysay in Nueva Ecija,

**[07:18:57.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006006)  
over 600 kilometers daw.

**[07:18:59.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006007)  
Okay, so ano ibig sabihin nun?

**[07:19:04.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006008)  
Does that not contradict the open pronouncements of the President himself

**[07:19:12.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006009)  
and the NSC now, na hindi pa hihintulutan ng Pilipinas na maging lunsaran,

**[07:19:18.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006010)  
eh meron nga offensive missile system ang mga Amerikano dito

**[07:19:28.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006011)  
at hindi lang yun, tinesting pa nila.

**[07:19:32.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006012)  
At malinaw naman, gagamitin yun, hindi sa loob ng Pilipinas.

**[07:19:37.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006013)  
Kung hindi gagamitin yun, for offensive purposes,

**[07:19:42.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006014)  
against, in the end, it will be against China in the Taiwan conflict.

**[07:19:48.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006015)  
So, paano po yun?

**[07:19:48.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006016)  
Paano po yun?

**[07:19:48.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006017)  
How do we reconcile?

**[07:19:50.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006018)  
Sabi ng Pangulo, no offensive weapons, no attacks from the Philippines,

**[07:19:55.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006019)  
and yet, nag-host ng offensive missile system,

**[07:20:02.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006020)  
with such capability, the Typhoon missile system, ang US.

**[07:20:06.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006021)  
Ano pong paliwanag ng NSC dito?

**[07:20:10.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006022)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, the stance of the NSC is that

**[07:20:15.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006023)  
these exercises actually are exercise of,

**[07:20:18.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006024)  
of Philippine sovereignty.

**[07:20:21.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006025)  
With, particularly, with this launcher,

**[07:20:24.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006026)  
this is an assessment of the capabilities,

**[07:20:28.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006027)  
also of the Philippines, with regards to its defense posture.

**[07:20:33.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006028)  
So, it's not in itself an offensive exercise.

**[07:20:41.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006029)  
It's really just to measure and assess the capabilities of the Philippines

**[07:20:46.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006030)  
with regards to defending its territory, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:20:48.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006031)  
Well, thank you for that.

**[07:20:51.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006032)  
Well, I just wanted to point out here,

**[07:20:53.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006033)  
there seems to be a contradiction between the public pronouncements

**[07:20:58.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006034)  
of the President himself, no less than the President.

**[07:21:01.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006035)  
Sinasabi niya sa local and international audiences

**[07:21:05.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006036)  
na hindi niya papaintulutan na gamitin ang teritoryo ng Pilipinas

**[07:21:10.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006037)  
para gawing lunsaran ng atake, lalo na ng US,

**[07:21:15.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006038)  
dahil ayaw natin maging party sa conflict.

**[07:21:18.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006039)  
On the other hand, patuloy naman ang pag-host

**[07:21:25.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006040)  
ng, ayun na nga, those very offensive weapon systems

**[07:21:31.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006041)  
that only have one use.

**[07:21:35.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006042)  
The only purpose of the US for that is to attack, obviously.

**[07:21:41.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006043)  
It's an adversary in whatever conflict, diba?

**[07:21:48.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006044)  
So, yun po, pinopoint out natin.

**[07:21:51.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006045)  
Either pagkakatiwalaan natin ang sinabi ng Pangulo

**[07:21:56.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006046)  
o hindi buong katapatan ang naririnig natin

**[07:22:02.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006047)  
kaugnay sa patakarang ito.

**[07:22:03.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006048)  
Meron pong kontradiksyon.

**[07:22:05.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006049)  
Yun po ang pinopoint out natin.

**[07:22:07.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006050)  
Okay, needless to say,

**[07:22:09.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006051)  
ang punto rito, kung totoo ang sinasabi ng Pangulo

**[07:22:14.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006052)  
at ang patakaran ng NSC,

**[07:22:16.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006053)  
ay dapat i-withdrawal.

**[07:22:18.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006054)  
I-withdraw yung typhoon missile system na yan.

**[07:22:24.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006055)  
Diba?

**[07:22:25.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006056)  
Then, malinaw,

**[07:22:26.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006057)  
walang offensive intent

**[07:22:33.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006058)  
na pinahihintulutan ang Pilipinas

**[07:22:39.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006059)  
as an exercise of its sovereignty

**[07:22:41.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006060)  
and in accordance with the public pronouncement of the President.

**[07:22:45.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006061)  
Let me move on.

**[07:22:46.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006062)  
Alam natin, limited ang oras.

**[07:22:48.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006063)  
May tanong naman tayo kaugnay sa National Action Plan

**[07:22:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006064)  
for Unity, Peace, and Development.

**[07:22:57.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006065)  
Yung tinatawag na NAP-UPD.

**[07:23:00.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006066)  
Okay.

**[07:23:04.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006067)  
This has more to do with internal security.

**[07:23:10.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006068)  
Kung yung isa, pinag-usapan natin, external.

**[07:23:13.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006069)  
Ito, internal.

**[07:23:15.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006070)  
At alam natin, ang lead agency na nagpapatupad,

**[07:23:18.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006071)  
ng tinatawag na NAP-UPD is the NTFL-CAC.

**[07:23:23.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006072)  
We also know that the vice chair of the NTFL-CAC

**[07:23:27.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006073)  
is the National Security Council.

**[07:23:29.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006074)  
Kaya dito po natin tinatanong.

**[07:23:31.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006075)  
Okay.

**[07:23:32.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006076)  
Actually,

**[07:23:34.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006077)  
ang isang tanong ko lang po, muna,

**[07:23:37.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006078)  
ay tungkol sa legislative agenda.

**[07:23:39.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006079)  
As found in the document,

**[07:23:41.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006080)  
the NAP-UPD document,

**[07:23:44.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006081)  
on page 41 of the said document,

**[07:23:48.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006082)  
nakalagay po dito,

**[07:23:52.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006083)  
as part of the legislative and policy agenda,

**[07:23:56.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006084)  
it says here,

**[07:23:57.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006085)  
the NTFL-CAC shall advocate the passage of laws

**[07:24:01.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006086)  
and related policies on the following.

**[07:24:04.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006087)  
There's one, institutionalizing the whole-of-nation approach,

**[07:24:07.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006088)  
and then there's number two,

**[07:24:09.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006089)  
increasing the role and responsibilities of LGUs

**[07:24:12.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006090)  
and the Philippine National Police

**[07:24:14.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006091)  
in addressing internal security,

**[07:24:17.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006092)  
particularly through

**[07:24:19.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006094)  
amendment of Republic Act 8551

**[07:24:21.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006095)  
to transfer the lead role and responsibilities

**[07:24:25.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006096)  
in internal security operations to PNP

**[07:24:28.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006097)  
with the support of the AFP.

**[07:24:31.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006098)  
So, apparently, yun ang dalawang,

**[07:24:33.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006099)  
dalawa lang yung legislative agenda

**[07:24:35.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006100)  
under this National Action Plan

**[07:24:39.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006101)  
for Unity, Peace, and Development 2025 to 2028.

**[07:24:43.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006102)  
So, it's until the end of the

**[07:24:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006103)  
Marcos Jr. administration's term.

**[07:24:48.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006104)  
Yung sa pangalawa po,

**[07:24:52.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006105)  
parang narinig na natin yan dati, diba?

**[07:24:54.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006106)  
And in fact, under the Ramos administration,

**[07:24:57.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006107)  
that was implemented.

**[07:25:00.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006108)  
After the repeal of the anti-subversion law,

**[07:25:04.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006109)  
and then there were peace process,

**[07:25:07.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006110)  
peace talks,

**[07:25:09.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006111)  
ay pinahawak sa PNP yung counter-insurgency.

**[07:25:16.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006112)  
So, apparently,

**[07:25:18.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006113)  
yan uli ang policy direction

**[07:25:22.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006114)  
ng under this plan.

**[07:25:26.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006115)  
Una muna,

**[07:25:28.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006116)  
ano po ang basis nun?

**[07:25:29.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006117)  
Bakit may ganitong

**[07:25:30.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006118)  
legislative and policy agenda

**[07:25:34.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006119)  
ang NTF-ELCAC?

**[07:25:37.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006120)  
Basis.

**[07:25:39.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006121)  
What is the basis?

**[07:25:39.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006122)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:25:51.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006123)  
This might be related to

**[07:25:53.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006124)  
the comprehensive

**[07:25:54.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006125)  
archipelagic defense concept,

**[07:25:57.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006126)  
which basically,

**[07:25:59.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006127)  
since we're

**[07:26:02.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006128)  
refocusing,

**[07:26:04.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006129)  
we're shifting

**[07:26:04.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006130)  
the defense posture of the Philippines

**[07:26:07.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006131)  
towards the

**[07:26:09.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006132)  
protection of our

**[07:26:11.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006133)  
exclusive economic zones.

**[07:26:14.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006134)  
So, given that

**[07:26:16.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006135)  
the military would be

**[07:26:17.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006136)  
reoriented towards

**[07:26:19.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006137)  
the protection of our

**[07:26:21.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006138)  
EEZ,

**[07:26:23.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006139)  
of course,

**[07:26:24.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006140)  
that would create

**[07:26:25.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006141)  
a vacuum

**[07:26:28.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006142)  
that the PNP,

**[07:26:32.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006143)  
the police,

**[07:26:33.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006144)  
and the LGUs

**[07:26:35.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006145)  
should fill.

**[07:26:37.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006146)  
Given the

**[07:26:38.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006147)  
perspective.

**[07:26:39.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006148)  
Okay, so,

**[07:26:41.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006149)  
this is related to the shift

**[07:26:43.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006150)  
in focus of the ANP

**[07:26:45.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006151)  
to external defense.

**[07:26:48.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006152)  
Towards the protection

**[07:26:49.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006153)  
of our exclusive economic zones.

**[07:26:51.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006154)  
External defense, including

**[07:26:52.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006155)  
exclusive economic zones.

**[07:26:57.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006156)  
Okay.

**[07:26:57.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006157)  
Actually, yun naman talaga

**[07:26:58.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006158)  
ang pangunahing,

**[07:26:59.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006159)  
under the Constitution,

**[07:27:00.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006160)  
yun ang pangunahing

**[07:27:01.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006161)  
mandato,

**[07:27:03.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006162)  
diba,

**[07:27:05.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006163)  
ng armed forces,

**[07:27:07.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006164)  
external defense,

**[07:27:08.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006165)  
to secure,

**[07:27:09.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006166)  
the territory.

**[07:27:11.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006167)  
Diba?

**[07:27:12.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006168)  
Okay.

**[07:27:14.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006169)  
Ano na po ang status

**[07:27:16.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006170)  
ng ganitong

**[07:27:18.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006171)  
agenda

**[07:27:20.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006172)  
ng NSC,

**[07:27:23.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006173)  
NTFL-CAC,

**[07:27:24.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006174)  
and the Marcos Jr. Administration?

**[07:27:26.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006175)  
Realistic ba to?

**[07:27:28.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006176)  
Mapatutupad ba to?

**[07:27:29.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006177)  
Nakikita ba nila

**[07:27:30.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006178)  
na bago mag-2028

**[07:27:31.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006179)  
ay magagawa na

**[07:27:34.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006180)  
na ipahawak na

**[07:27:37.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006181)  
sa LGU

**[07:27:37.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006182)  
at

**[07:27:38.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006183)  
PNP

**[07:27:40.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006192)  
Ang counter-insurgency

**[07:27:41.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006193)  
tapos nakapokus

**[07:27:42.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006194)  
ang militar

**[07:27:44.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006195)  
sa external defense?

**[07:27:48.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006196)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[07:27:50.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006197)  
well,

**[07:27:50.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006198)  
this might be

**[07:27:51.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006199)  
a discussion

**[07:27:51.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006200)  
for the budget

**[07:27:53.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006201)  
deliberations

**[07:27:54.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006202)  
of the Department

**[07:27:54.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006203)  
of National Defense,

**[07:27:55.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006204)  
but that is the goal.

**[07:27:57.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006205)  
That is the goal.

**[07:27:58.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006206)  
To, of course,

**[07:27:59.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006207)  
equip our

**[07:28:00.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006208)  
uniformed forces

**[07:28:02.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006209)  
to fulfill

**[07:28:03.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006210)  
this

**[07:28:04.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006211)  
comprehensive

**[07:28:05.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006212)  
archipelagic

**[07:28:06.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006213)  
defense concept.

**[07:28:09.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006214)  
Okay.

**[07:28:09.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006215)  
So, goal.

**[07:28:10.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006216)  
So, para ano yan?

**[07:28:11.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006217)  
Drawing pa lang yan?

**[07:28:12.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006218)  
Drawing?

**[07:28:13.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006219)  
These goals are

**[07:28:14.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006220)  
incorporated

**[07:28:16.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006221)  
within the proposed

**[07:28:18.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006222)  
fiscal year

**[07:28:18.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006223)  
2027 budget.

**[07:28:19.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006224)  
Okay.

**[07:28:20.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006225)  
But,

**[07:28:21.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006226)  
is there already,

**[07:28:22.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006227)  
hindi ko alam eh,

**[07:28:24.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006228)  
meron na bang

**[07:28:24.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006229)  
part of

**[07:28:26.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006230)  
priority legislation

**[07:28:27.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006231)  
na ba ito

**[07:28:28.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006232)  
ng Marcos Jr.

**[07:28:29.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006233)  
administration?

**[07:28:30.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006234)  
Is this part

**[07:28:31.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006235)  
of the LEDAC

**[07:28:31.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006236)  
priority

**[07:28:34.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006237)  
legislative agenda?

**[07:28:39.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006238)  
At meron na bang bill

**[07:28:41.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006239)  
na tumatakbo

**[07:28:43.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006240)  
sa kongresong ito?

**[07:28:45.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006241)  
We're looking through

**[07:28:46.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006242)  
the

**[07:28:47.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006243)  
particular

**[07:28:48.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006244)  
legislative agenda.

**[07:28:51.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006245)  
May proposal kayo,

**[07:28:52.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006246)  
hindi nyo alam.

**[07:28:53.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006247)  
Okay.

**[07:28:54.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006248)  
Anyway,

**[07:28:55.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006249)  
sige po,

**[07:28:55.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006250)  
I just wanted an update

**[07:28:57.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006251)  
on this

**[07:28:58.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006252)  
particular proposal.

**[07:28:59.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006253)  
Third,

**[07:29:01.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006254)  
ito po,

**[07:29:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006255)  
I noted

**[07:29:07.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006256)  
in the

**[07:29:08.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006257)  
discussion

**[07:29:09.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006258)  
discussion

**[07:29:09.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006259)  
on

**[07:29:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006260)  
parang review

**[07:29:12.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006261)  
yung mga achievements

**[07:29:13.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006262)  
ng

**[07:29:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006263)  
NTF-ELCAC,

**[07:29:16.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006264)  
there is a section,

**[07:29:17.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006265)  
this is in the

**[07:29:18.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006266)  
introduction

**[07:29:18.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006267)  
of the document,

**[07:29:20.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006268)  
sabi dito,

**[07:29:21.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006269)  
one of the

**[07:29:23.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006270)  
achievements daw

**[07:29:24.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006271)  
of the NTF-ELCAC

**[07:29:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006272)  
is situational

**[07:29:26.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006273)  
awareness,

**[07:29:28.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006274)  
empowerment,

**[07:29:28.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006275)  
and protection

**[07:29:29.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006276)  
of various

**[07:29:30.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006277)  
sectors and

**[07:29:31.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006278)  
institutions

**[07:29:31.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006279)  
against

**[07:29:33.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006280)  
CPP-NPA

**[07:29:35.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006281)  
NDF recruitment

**[07:29:36.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006282)  
strengthened.

**[07:29:38.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006283)  
So,

**[07:29:38.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006284)  
napalakas daw

**[07:29:39.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006285)  
ng NTF-ELCAC,

**[07:29:39.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006286)  
and let me

**[07:29:40.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006287)  
just

**[07:29:41.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006288)  
read into the record

**[07:29:43.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006289)  
the account

**[07:29:44.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006290)  
of

**[07:29:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006291)  
how this was

**[07:29:48.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006292)  
attained.

**[07:29:49.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006293)  
The NTF-ELCAC

**[07:29:50.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006294)  
reached out

**[07:29:50.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006295)  
to various sectors

**[07:29:52.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006296)  
and institutions

**[07:29:52.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006297)  
in the country

**[07:29:53.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006298)  
to widen

**[07:29:55.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006299)  
and deepen

**[07:29:55.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006300)  
stakeholder

**[07:29:56.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006301)  
situational

**[07:29:57.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006302)  
awareness

**[07:29:57.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006303)  
and knowledge.

**[07:29:59.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006304)  
So,

**[07:29:59.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006305)  
yun ang tawag.

**[07:30:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006306)  
situational awareness and knowledge of the ideological, political, and organizational works of the CPP, NPA, and DF,

**[07:30:08.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006307)  
including human rights and international humanitarian law violations.

**[07:30:14.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006308)  
The task force vigorously undertook information, education, and advocacy campaigns through fora, seminars, and conferences

**[07:30:23.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006309)  
in schools, government offices, and communities, as well as strategic communication initiatives.

**[07:30:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006310)  
Strategic communication initiatives through various media platforms.

**[07:30:38.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006311)  
At the same time, situational awareness among stakeholders within the international community was enhanced

**[07:30:44.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006312)  
through international engagement with the United Nations system, regional or multilateral educations,

**[07:30:51.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006313)  
international development and donor agencies, overseas Filipino workers and communities, and foreign states.

**[07:31:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006314)  
Okay, I will read it now.

**[07:31:04.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006315)  
The other ones, sectoral empowerment and protection, notably of the children, youth, and student sectors,

**[07:31:11.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006316)  
against CPP, NPA, and DF recruitment were vigorously promoted.

**[07:31:16.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006317)  
Among the significant undertakings are the following,

**[07:31:20.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006318)  
the PNP-initiated community-based partnerships such as the Kabataan Contra Droga at Terrorismo,

**[07:31:27.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006319)  
which mobilized the youth as partners,

**[07:31:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006320)  
in addressing drug abuse and terrorism,

**[07:31:33.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006321)  
and the Kapulisan, Simbahan, at Pamayanan, Kasimbayanan program,

**[07:31:38.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006322)  
which served as a platform of collaboration between PNP faith-based organizations and other stakeholders

**[07:31:45.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006323)  
to ensure peace and order and safety in the communities.

**[07:31:49.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006324)  
And then, collaboration between government and parents organizations such as Yakap ng Magulang and Hands of Our Children,

**[07:31:57.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006325)  
in the advocacy.

**[07:32:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006326)  
...against CPP-NPA's recruitment of children,

**[07:32:03.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006327)  
initiatives of the department of education and the commission on higher education

**[07:32:08.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006328)  
to strengthen the integration of peace and education in basic and higher education, respectively,

**[07:32:14.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006329)  
and DEP-EDS closure of the CPP-NPA-NDF-operated salugpungan schools in Mindanao

**[07:32:23.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006330)  
to protect young IEP learners from recruitment.

**[07:32:27.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006331)  
Okay.

**[07:32:28.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006332)  
So...

**[07:32:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006333)  
Kung babasahin mo, parang napakabanayad ng mga pangyayari at nakamit ang mga tagumpay.

**[07:32:35.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006334)  
Pero sa totoo lang, yung binabangit ng pangyayari dito,

**[07:32:39.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006335)  
ito yung ilang taon ng marahas na red tagging, harassment, violation of civil rights and human rights

**[07:32:51.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006336)  
of individuals from a very wide spectrum of society mula sa mga profesional, sa mga guro,

**[07:33:02.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006337)  
sa mga kawani, sa gobyerno, sa labas ng gobyerno, media, pati mga artista, mga workers, mga unionists,

**[07:33:13.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006338)  
mga indigenous peoples, and so on and so forth.

**[07:33:17.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006339)  
Alam natin yan, yung red tagging. Kaya nga, alam na natin.

**[07:33:20.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006340)  
At tumatak talaga yung issue ng red tagging. This is it.

**[07:33:25.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006341)  
Yung sinasabing situational awareness and strategic communication initiatives.

**[07:33:37.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006342)  
Ayan po yung constant red tagging on social media using paid trolls and so on and so forth.

**[07:33:48.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006343)  
Using government resources.

**[07:33:50.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006344)  
Yung Supreme Court mismo, naglabas ng ruling, yung kaugnay sa writ of amparo, yung deduro ruling,

**[07:34:04.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006345)  
na nagsabi, red tagging is dangerous for the targets of red tagging.

**[07:34:14.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006346)  
So, yun po ang point natin dito.

**[07:34:20.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006347)  
Ang paglalahad ng mga pangyayari, makikita mo na lang sa bandang dulo dahil may sinabi doon yung pinasara yung mga salugpungan schools.

**[07:34:29.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006348)  
And that was by no means a peaceful process.

**[07:34:34.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006349)  
Kung hindi, madugo po yan. Literally, in some cases, may mga namatay po.

**[07:34:40.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006350)  
Maraming pinalikas, maraming mga na-detain, may mga nag-disappear, and so on and so forth.

**[07:34:48.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006351)  
Okay.

**[07:34:49.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006352)  
So,

**[07:34:50.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006353)  
yun po yung unang nire-rehistro natin.

**[07:34:53.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006354)  
And then, to illustrate my point,

**[07:34:56.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006355)  
hindi po natatapos to

**[07:34:57.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006356)  
dun sa panahon ng nakaraang administrasyon,

**[07:35:00.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006357)  
kundi nagpapatuloy hanggang ngayon.

**[07:35:03.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006358)  
Let me take the case of

**[07:35:05.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006359)  
the Alliance of Concerned Teachers Region 5 Union.

**[07:35:11.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006360)  
So, yung Alliance of Concerned Teachers,

**[07:35:14.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006361)  
pinanggalingan kong organisasyon yan.

**[07:35:17.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006362)  
I used to be the national chairperson of ACT.

**[07:35:20.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006363)  
From 2002 to 2012.

**[07:35:25.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006364)  
So, then I became a member of the House through ACT Teachers Party List.

**[07:35:31.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006365)  
Pero, isa sa mga pinagsikapan at pinaghirapan ng Alliance of Concerned Teachers throughout the country.

**[07:35:39.360] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006366)  
With the indulgence of the Honorable Tinio, please.

**[07:35:41.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006367)  
Opo, patapos na po tayo.

**[07:35:43.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006368)  
Ay ang pag-unionize ng mga public school teachers.

**[07:35:48.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006369)  
So, ACT Region 5.

**[07:35:50.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006370)  
Ang pag-union is the sole and accredited negotiating unit.

**[07:35:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006371)  
Yung tanging union na accredited

**[07:36:01.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006372)  
ng gobyerno, ng Civil Service Commission,

**[07:36:05.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006373)  
ng Department of Labor and Employment,

**[07:36:07.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006374)  
at ng DepEd.

**[07:36:09.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006375)  
Bilang union

**[07:36:10.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006376)  
ng more than 50,000 teachers

**[07:36:14.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006377)  
ng DepEd sa Region 5.

**[07:36:17.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006378)  
Bicol Region.

**[07:36:19.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006379)  
Para makakreditsin,

**[07:36:20.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006380)  
kailangan ipakita mo na supportado ka ng mayorya ng mga teacher.

**[07:36:25.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006381)  
So, may pirmahan yan.

**[07:36:28.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006382)  
And you have to get, hindi po biro na makuha mo

**[07:36:31.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006383)  
ang pirma at supporta

**[07:36:34.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006384)  
ng more than, the majority, in short,

**[07:36:39.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006385)  
the majority of public school teachers throughout the region.

**[07:36:43.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006386)  
Mula kamarinis norte hanggang Sorsogon.

**[07:36:45.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006387)  
Pagkakita ko si Pongwowo dito.

**[07:36:49.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006388)  
Yan, Sorsogon.

**[07:36:50.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006389)  
Okay?

**[07:36:52.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006390)  
Sila po ang accredited union.

**[07:36:54.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006391)  
And on August 2930,

**[07:36:58.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006392)  
nag-conduct sila ng Regional Leadership Training and Seminar,

**[07:37:04.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006393)  
yung ACT Bicol Region Union.

**[07:37:08.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006394)  
Ngayon, ang nangyari po,

**[07:37:10.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006395)  
syempre dahil legal na,

**[07:37:12.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006396)  
recognized union,

**[07:37:13.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006397)  
naglabas ng memo

**[07:37:14.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006398)  
ang DepEd Region 5

**[07:37:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006399)  
for the activity.

**[07:37:20.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006400)  
That memo included a list of all the participants

**[07:37:25.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006401)  
sa iba't-ibang mga divisions ng Region 5.

**[07:37:30.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006402)  
Listahan, marami po. Mahaba yung listahan.

**[07:37:33.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006403)  
More than 100, yung pangalan.

**[07:37:37.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006404)  
Ang nangyari po, ang nakarating sa atin na ulat,

**[07:37:40.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006405)  
particular sa Kamarines Sur,

**[07:37:43.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006406)  
ay nahawakan ng PNP

**[07:37:46.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006407)  
yung memo, dahil nakapost yan sa

**[07:37:50.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006408)  
website ng DepEd,

**[07:37:53.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006409)  
yung advisory,

**[07:37:54.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006410)  
nahawakan ng listahan,

**[07:37:55.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006411)  
tapos inisa-isa po

**[07:37:56.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006412)  
yung mga pangalan

**[07:37:59.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006413)  
ng memo.

**[07:38:02.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006414)  
At either tinawagan sila,

**[07:38:05.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006415)  
minessage ng mga nagpapakilalang

**[07:38:08.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006416)  
intelligence officer ng PNP,

**[07:38:11.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006417)  
at

**[07:38:11.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006418)  
hinihingan pa ng pangalan ng mga iba.

**[07:38:16.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006419)  
Sa tinawagan, o kaya pinuntahan.

**[07:38:19.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006420)  
Pinuntahan.

**[07:38:20.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006421)  
Sa mga iskwelahan.

**[07:38:21.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006422)  
Sample lang po,

**[07:38:23.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006423)  
ng mga...

**[07:38:23.900] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006424)  
Honorable Tinio, please.

**[07:38:25.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006425)  
Opo. Opo. Patapos na po.

**[07:38:27.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006426)  
Sample lang po.

**[07:38:28.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006427)  
This is for the record.

**[07:38:30.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006428)  
So, hindi po natin babangitin yung mga pangalan,

**[07:38:32.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006429)  
pero for example,

**[07:38:35.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006430)  
from screenshots,

**[07:38:38.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006431)  
ng mga pinadala sa atin.

**[07:38:40.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006432)  
Good afternoon po.

**[07:38:42.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006433)  
Ma'am,

**[07:38:43.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006434)  
pwede po daw tumawag sa inyo?

**[07:38:47.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006435)  
Sino po? Ano po ang concern nyo?

**[07:38:50.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006436)  
Tawag po ako sa inyo.

**[07:38:53.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006437)  
Pasensya na po. Sa PNP ako. May query lang, ma'am.

**[07:38:57.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006438)  
Ano po ang concern nyo?

**[07:39:00.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006439)  
Asking lang, please, regarding sa names,

**[07:39:02.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006440)  
including sa mga umaten sa Ligaspi.

**[07:39:05.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006441)  
Ima gano'n, hinihingan ng pangalan.

**[07:39:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006442)  
Okay, meron namang. Iba pa to.

**[07:39:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006443)  
Ito po. If aware kayo kung sino ang representative

**[07:39:15.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006444)  
from this school, may pangalan ng school,

**[07:39:17.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006445)  
or designated lang po to attend,

**[07:39:20.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006446)  
security survey lang po.

**[07:39:22.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006447)  
So, yun ang tawag.

**[07:39:24.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006448)  
O di kaya, another quote,

**[07:39:28.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006449)  
di naman po kami profiling sa inyo.

**[07:39:30.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006450)  
Nagva-validate lang po kami

**[07:39:32.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006451)  
kung paano ka na list doon.

**[07:39:36.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006452)  
Kasi ang iba, as per info,

**[07:39:39.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006453)  
pinalagay lang daw po sa list.

**[07:39:41.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006454)  
Okay, so, yun po ang point.

**[07:39:44.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006455)  
Tatapusin na po natin.

**[07:39:45.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006456)  
Ang point po, yung sinasabi rito,

**[07:39:48.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006457)  
yung situational awareness, empowerment,

**[07:39:52.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006458)  
and protection of various sectors and institutions

**[07:39:55.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006459)  
on the ground, ganyan po yan.

**[07:39:58.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006460)  
Yung mga unionista na atend sa training,

**[07:40:01.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006461)  
kinukuha yung pangalan, tapos iniisa-isa ng PNP.

**[07:40:04.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006462)  
Yung iba, sabihin, mag-usap tayo.

**[07:40:07.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006463)  
May sinabi isa dito, daan kayo sa ano.

**[07:40:10.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006464)  
Ito lang, babasahin ko lang.

**[07:40:14.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006465)  
Bag-message ka po sa akin kung pauwi ka na po.

**[07:40:18.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006466)  
Maghihintay na lang po ako dito sa police station.

**[07:40:21.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006467)  
Kung huwi na po kayo,

**[07:40:23.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006468)  
o pinapadaan sa police station.

**[07:40:27.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006469)  
So, ang tanong po,

**[07:40:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006470)  
yan po ba ang pamamaraan

**[07:40:34.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006471)  
na tinutulak at iniendorso

**[07:40:37.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006472)  
ng National Security Council

**[07:40:41.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006473)  
para ipatupad yung kanilang so-called

**[07:40:48.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006474)  
situational awareness.

**[07:40:50.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006475)  
Na yung mga lehitimo at legal na public school teacher natin

**[07:40:55.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006476)  
na uma-attend ng kanilang seminar

**[07:40:58.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006477)  
para sa unionismo nila

**[07:41:00.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006478)  
ay tinatawagan ng police

**[07:41:04.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006479)  
at pinapapunta pa sa stasyon

**[07:41:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006480)  
para magpaliwanag.

**[07:41:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006481)  
Ganun po ba?

**[07:41:10.680] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006482)  
That will be your last question, Honorable Tinio.

**[07:41:13.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006483)  
Mr. Speaker, that probably would be a concern

**[07:41:16.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006484)  
that we be better directed with you.

**[07:41:17.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006485)  
Directed with the situational awareness

**[07:41:19.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006486)  
and knowledge management cluster of the NTFL-CAP.

**[07:41:22.840] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006487)  
Thank you, Honorable Tinio.

**[07:41:24.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006488)  
I direct it to the NSE because they are the vice chair

**[07:41:27.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006489)  
and I also condemn this harassment

**[07:41:30.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006490)  
and violation of basic human rights

**[07:41:36.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006491)  
and union rights of our teachers,

**[07:41:40.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006492)  
particularly in Camarines Sur,

**[07:41:42.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006493)  
subject to such harassment and intimidation.

**[07:41:46.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006494)  
So, kinukondena po natin ito.

**[07:41:48.478] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006495)  
Kaya po iyan ang isang issue na tinatalaan natin sa record

**[07:41:53.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006496)  
na pinapahintulutan ng pondo na inilalaan ng Kongreso

**[07:41:59.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006497)  
sa National Security Council at NTFL-CAP.

**[07:42:01.460] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006498)  
Thank you, Honorable Tinio.

**[07:42:02.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-006499)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[07:42:03.180] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006500)  
Thank you, Honorable Tinio.

**[07:42:04.340] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006501)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:42:09.080] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006502)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[07:42:11.260] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006503)  
the Honorable Representative Sergio Dagooc

**[07:42:14.200] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006504)  
of APEC Party List

**[07:42:16.120] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006505)  
to interpellate on

**[07:42:17.440] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006506)  
the proposed budget of the National Security Council.

**[07:42:20.260] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006507)  
Honorable Sergio Dagooc is recognized.

**[07:42:22.560] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006508)  
Please proceed.

**[07:42:24.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006509)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:42:26.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006510)  
Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[07:42:28.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006511)  
Pagandang gabi po sa ating lahat,

**[07:42:30.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006512)  
especially to the Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:42:33.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006513)  
Kunting katalungan lang po, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:42:37.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006514)  
Ako po ay naguguluhan dito sa budget ng NSE.

**[07:42:44.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006515)  
Tama po ba yung nakita ko na

**[07:42:47.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006516)  
bumaba po yung budget ninyo

**[07:42:49.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006517)  
compared to 2026?

**[07:42:52.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006518)  
Tama po yun, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:42:55.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006519)  
Bumaba po.

**[07:42:56.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006520)  
Pero,

**[07:42:57.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006521)  
kahit bumaba,

**[07:43:00.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006522)  
yung MOOE ninyo

**[07:43:02.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006523)  
nag-increase by 10.5%

**[07:43:07.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006524)  
or from 871 million

**[07:43:10.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006525)  
sa 2026, no?

**[07:43:14.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006526)  
Ay,

**[07:43:15.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006527)  
ah,

**[07:43:17.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006528)  
umabot siya ng 962 million.

**[07:43:21.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006529)  
Tama po ba?

**[07:43:23.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006530)  
Tama po, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:43:25.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006531)  
Yung

**[07:43:25.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006532)  
capital outlay ninyo,

**[07:43:30.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006533)  
no?

**[07:43:32.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006534)  
Ah,

**[07:43:34.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006535)  
ay

**[07:43:34.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006536)  
tumaas, no?

**[07:43:37.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006537)  
Doon sa subscription expenses alone,

**[07:43:41.380] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006538)  
tumaas ng 261 million

**[07:43:43.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006539)  
or 23%

**[07:43:45.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006540)  
compared sa 22 million.

**[07:43:47.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006541)  
Tama po ba yung 26?

**[07:43:48.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006542)  
Tama po ba?

**[07:43:49.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006543)  
Ah, yung capital outlay po, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:43:52.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006544)  
bumaba po.

**[07:43:53.700] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006545)  
Actually, 600,000 lang po ang capital outlay.

**[07:43:56.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006546)  
Yung subscription expenses,

**[07:43:59.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006547)  
no?

**[07:44:00.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006548)  
Nag-increase yan ng 261.1 million, no?

**[07:44:06.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006549)  
23% po siya

**[07:44:07.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006550)  
na mataas kaysa 2026.

**[07:44:12.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006551)  
Ano po ba yung subscription na yun?

**[07:44:17.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006552)  
Pwede po bang ipaliwanag?

**[07:44:22.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006553)  
Anong, anong subscription to?

**[07:44:34.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006554)  
Tama po, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:44:35.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006555)  
Ah, ng 2026 po,

**[07:44:37.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006556)  
yung GAA,

**[07:44:38.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006557)  
ah, yung level po,

**[07:44:39.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006558)  
172.8 million.

**[07:44:42.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006559)  
Ah, for 2027 NEP po,

**[07:44:44.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006560)  
ang proposed po ay

**[07:44:45.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006561)  
261.18 million.

**[07:44:47.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006562)  
So, tumaas po ng

**[07:44:51.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006563)  
79 million.

**[07:44:54.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006564)  
Ah, ano po yung

**[07:44:55.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006565)  
pangalaw?

**[07:44:57.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006566)  
Can we ask, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:44:58.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006567)  
distinct sponsor?

**[07:45:00.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006568)  
What exactly is being subscribed to?

**[07:45:03.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006569)  
Ano yung sinasubscribe natin dito?

**[07:45:06.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006570)  
Who are the suppliers?

**[07:45:17.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006571)  
Habang pinupull up yung data,

**[07:45:20.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006572)  
distinguished colleague, para po daw po

**[07:45:22.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006573)  
para po daw po sa mga cyber security operations ng NSC.

**[07:45:27.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006574)  
Pero kinukuha po namin yung datos dun sa

**[07:45:30.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006575)  
listahan po nung particular programs po na

**[07:45:37.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006576)  
yung sa subscription po dun sa...

**[07:45:40.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006577)  
Are these contracts multi-year o annual?

**[07:45:57.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006578)  
Yung subscription po na type, annual po siya.

**[07:46:03.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006579)  
Pero nag-renew po siya every year.

**[07:46:06.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006580)  
So annual, nagpo-procure tayo annually?

**[07:46:10.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006581)  
Apo, for subscription expenses, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:46:13.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006582)  
Pinapabid natin to?

**[07:46:15.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006583)  
Yes, sir.

**[07:46:16.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006584)  
Annually.

**[07:46:19.060] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006585)  
Ano tong pinoprocure natin?

**[07:46:23.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006586)  
Domestic to or foreign-owned platform?

**[07:46:27.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006587)  
Depende po dun sa type of operation, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:46:42.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006588)  
Kung domestic po siya or yung owner pong app.

**[07:46:49.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006589)  
Pinupulap lang po.

**[07:46:50.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006590)  
Halo siya, may domestic, may foreign?

**[07:46:53.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006591)  
Apo, mixed po siya, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:46:57.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006592)  
Dito sa personal services,

**[07:47:00.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006593)  
bakit po ang daming bakante?

**[07:47:05.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006594)  
Hindi pinipilled up yung plantilya,

**[07:47:08.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006595)  
pero tumataas po yung personal services,

**[07:47:11.680] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006596)  
ang dami po nating contract of service?

**[07:47:15.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006597)  
Yung sa personal services po, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:47:18.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006598)  
tumaas po ng 6% dahil po dun sa SSL,

**[07:47:22.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006599)  
yung sa tranche po, yung bagong tranche po ng SSL.

**[07:47:25.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006600)  
Kasi may approved kayo.

**[07:47:27.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006601)  
May approved kayo na parang 100 plus na plantilya.

**[07:47:33.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006602)  
Mga 170 yata, pero ilan ba yung approved na plantilya ninyo?

**[07:47:39.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006603)  
Kasi nagagalit yung kasamahan ko dito na bakit hindi natin regularize yung ano.

**[07:47:46.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006604)  
Pupunta na naman sa DOLE ulit.

**[07:47:57.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006605)  
May nagbabalak dito na ipa-defer dahil hindi pinilapan yung...

**[07:48:04.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006606)  
Kaya ako na lang ang nagtanong, baka ma-defer pa.

**[07:48:07.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006607)  
So, ilan po yung plantilya positions approved ng DBM?

**[07:48:11.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006608)  
Ngayon pong 2026 po, 212.

**[07:48:15.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006609)  
Same lang po siya sa level ng 2025.

**[07:48:17.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006610)  
So, ilan yung na-filled up?

**[07:48:20.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006611)  
165 po.

**[07:48:21.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006612)  
165.

**[07:48:22.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006613)  
So, ilan yung job order at saka contract of service?

**[07:48:27.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006614)  
Ang contract of service po for 2026 na na-approved po, 71.

**[07:48:33.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006615)  
Ilan?

**[07:48:34.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006616)  
71 po, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:48:36.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006617)  
71?

**[07:48:37.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006618)  
Opo.

**[07:48:38.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006619)  
So, bakit po hindi na lang natin pinilapan yun?

**[07:48:41.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006620)  
Kasi that is a pattern among government agencies.

**[07:48:47.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006621)  
Ang dami naming kaso sa labor, yung mga private, dahil doon sa contract of service, job order.

**[07:48:53.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006622)  
Bakit sa government?

**[07:48:55.060] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006623)  
Ang daming un-filled na plantilya.

**[07:48:57.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006624)  
Tapos, maraming job order at saka COS.

**[07:49:03.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006625)  
As per the agency po, Mr. Speaker, ongoing po yung review ng mga applications para po dun sa mga plantilya positions.

**[07:49:16.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006626)  
Actually, no?

**[07:49:18.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006627)  
With all due respect, pasensya na, unacceptable yung mga sagot na yun.

**[07:49:26.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006628)  
Ang tanong ko,

**[07:49:27.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006629)  
So, hindi ko na lang, bakit mababa yung utilization natin sa budget?

**[07:49:36.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006630)  
So, hindi ko na lang isa-isahin kung saang banda.

**[07:49:40.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006631)  
Pero, bakit mababa yung budget utilization ninyo sa 2025?

**[07:49:48.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006632)  
As per the agency po, Mr. Speaker, may mga delay lang daw po sa procurement.

**[07:49:53.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006633)  
Dahil po, buhat nung nangyari po.

**[07:49:57.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006634)  
Sa, ano, straight to foremost, marami pong na-delay na ICT equipment.

**[07:50:01.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006635)  
Nagka-problema din po sa procurement kasi tumaas po yung mga materyales.

**[07:50:05.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006636)  
So, nagka-problema sa, ano.

**[07:50:07.860] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006637)  
So, hindi na ito magamit.

**[07:50:10.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006638)  
Yung hindi ninyo nagamit previous year, hindi na talaga ito magamit.

**[07:50:21.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006639)  
As per the agency, Mr. Speaker, continuing naman daw po.

**[07:50:25.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006640)  
So, magagamit pa.

**[07:50:27.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006641)  
Itong 250 million, no, in confidential expenses.

**[07:50:33.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006642)  
Dito sa hiningin ninyong 250 million, halos kapariha lang ito sa 2026.

**[07:50:41.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006643)  
But, you did not identify the targets, ano yung sources or operations, no?

**[07:50:51.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006644)  
Pwede bang ma-devolve yung utilization

**[07:50:57.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006645)  
saan natin ito gagamitin without, of course, breaching the national security aspect?

**[07:51:07.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006646)  
Hindi ko lang maintindihan kasi humihingi tayo, hindi naman natin nagamit.

**[07:51:12.560] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006647)  
Hindi natin na-identify saan gagamitin.

**[07:52:53.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006659)  
Actually, marami akong tanong, pero naawa ako sa sponsor. Kaibigan ko iyan, so dalawa na lang, last two na lang. Pag nasagot iyan, last two out of eight. Walo pa sana yung tanong ko, pero mahirap ipa-defer yung National Security Council.

**[07:53:26.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006661)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague. Thank you for your patience.

**[07:53:30.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006662)  
Yung listahan po, isasubmit na lang po namin yung poll.

**[07:53:35.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006663)  
Pero ang pwede ko lang po sabihin para po dun sa confidential funds,

**[07:53:39.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006664)  
yung National Review of Foreign Investments on Military Cybersecurity,

**[07:53:44.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006665)  
yung 360 Archipelagic Security Governance,

**[07:53:48.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006666)  
the Protection of Critical Information Infrastructure through Cybersecurity Efforts,

**[07:53:54.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006667)  
Crisis Management,

**[07:53:57.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006668)  
Tapos counter-intelligence operations.

**[07:54:02.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006669)  
Okay. So, with?

**[07:54:04.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006670)  
So, Mr. Speaker, kung nahihirapan kayo sa procurement,

**[07:54:07.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006671)  
I suggest the sponsor will introduce a special provision na

**[07:54:15.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006672)  
sana i-release ni DBM first quarter pa para may time pa kayo to procure.

**[07:54:21.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006673)  
Kasi annual ka mo yung procurement.

**[07:54:25.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006674)  
Kasi madidiado tayo sa ating National Security Airport.

**[07:54:30.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006675)  
Kayo pa.

**[07:54:30.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006676)  
Pa naman ang taga-advice ni Presidente.

**[07:54:33.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006677)  
So, ito yung second to the last.

**[07:54:35.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006678)  
Nakita ko, yung operations increased from approximately,

**[07:54:40.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006679)  
yung expenses sa operations,

**[07:54:44.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006680)  
increased from approximately 295 million in 2026 to 525 million in 2027,

**[07:54:54.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006681)  
while the general administration, bumaba siya by more than one half.

**[07:55:00.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006682)  
Bakit po nire-classify natin ito?

**[07:55:09.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006683)  
Is this a genuine,

**[07:55:12.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006684)  
is this only a genuine shift of resources towards the frontline national security functions

**[07:55:21.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006685)  
or primarily an accounting program?

**[07:55:25.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006686)  
Accounting lang para nilipat lang natin ang,

**[07:55:30.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006687)  
ng ibang account code.

**[07:55:33.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006688)  
Nire-classify lang natin.

**[07:55:35.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006689)  
Sinunod lang natin yung definition ng accounting,

**[07:55:38.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006690)  
accounting is an art.

**[07:55:44.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006691)  
As per the agency, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:55:47.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006692)  
kaya daw po bumaba yung sa gas,

**[07:55:49.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006693)  
kasi may reclassification po ng ibang mga programa.

**[07:55:54.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006694)  
So, may mga gas daw po na,

**[07:55:56.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006695)  
may mga programa po na previously classified under the gas.

**[07:56:00.720] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006696)  
Pinasok daw po siya sa support to operations.

**[07:56:02.780] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006697)  
Nilipat lang ng ibang account code.

**[07:56:05.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006698)  
Yes po.

**[07:56:06.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006699)  
Nire-classify nga lang.

**[07:56:08.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006700)  
So, a matter of accounting lang ito.

**[07:56:10.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006701)  
Hindi maapektuhan yung ating trabaho.

**[07:56:14.860] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006702)  
A matter of accounting lang.

**[07:56:16.880] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006703)  
Baka may audit observation kayo, kaya nilipat ninyo?

**[07:56:20.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006704)  
Kaya nilipat ninyo?

**[07:56:22.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006705)  
Wala naman po.

**[07:56:23.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006706)  
Okay.

**[07:56:24.100] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006707)  
Thank you.

**[07:56:24.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006708)  
So, last.

**[07:56:26.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006709)  
Pero sana may anim pa.

**[07:56:29.100] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006710)  
Hindi ko maintindihan yung,

**[07:56:30.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006711)  
performance indicators ninyo.

**[07:56:33.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006712)  
I don't know if this is part of the

**[07:56:35.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006713)  
national security aspect, no?

**[07:56:41.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006714)  
Your target, halimbawa,

**[07:56:42.880] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006715)  
for essential elements

**[07:56:44.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006716)  
of information,

**[07:56:48.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006717)  
2026 is 548.

**[07:56:51.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006718)  
Pero yung actual accomplishment ninyo is

**[07:56:53.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006719)  
5,510.

**[07:56:56.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006720)  
More than 10 times the target.

**[07:56:58.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006721)  
Bakit po?

**[07:57:00.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006722)  
Mag-target ng 548 pero ma-complace 5,500.

**[07:57:23.860] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006723)  
Yung ibang agency kasi,

**[07:57:25.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006724)  
hirap pa nga sila makuha yung target nila.

**[07:57:28.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006725)  
Sana BIR kayo.

**[07:57:30.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006726)  
Target 500, makulikta 1,500.

**[07:57:33.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006727)  
Ako, 5,500.

**[07:57:37.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006728)  
Bakit po ganun?

**[07:57:37.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006729)  
Times 10 yung accomplishment.

**[07:57:43.560] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006730)  
Typo?

**[07:57:44.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006731)  
Typo lang yan?

**[07:57:44.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006732)  
O talagang tama yung number na yan?

**[07:58:03.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006747)  
Mr. Speaker, as per the agency po, kaya po medyo

**[07:58:09.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006748)  
mataas po compared to the target. Depende daw po sa incidents.

**[07:58:13.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006749)  
Depende sa?

**[07:58:15.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006750)  
Incidents. So, with regard to kung ilan po yung essential elements na kailangang kunin, kaya po medyo tumaas po.

**[07:58:24.580] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006763)  
Again, I am not satisfied with the answer.

**[07:58:28.880] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006768)  
May mali talaga sa projection ninyo.

**[07:58:32.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006769)  
Kasi dapat matalas yung ano ninyo,

**[07:58:36.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006770)  
National Security Advisor kayo ni Presidente,

**[07:58:39.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006771)  
tapos sa target man lang ng accomplishment,

**[07:58:41.580] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006772)  
napakalayo, 10 times yung error.

**[07:58:46.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006773)  
So yung margin of error sa susunod,

**[07:58:49.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006774)  
nandito pa ako sa susunod,

**[07:58:50.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006775)  
hindi pa matapos yung term ko,

**[07:58:52.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006776)  
titignan ko ulit yan.

**[07:58:54.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006777)  
Can we expect that almost accurate, realistic?

**[07:58:58.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006778)  
Huwag kayo mag-target ng 500,

**[07:59:01.560] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006779)  
ang accomplishment 5,500?

**[07:59:04.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006780)  
Kasi medyo nakakaduda na po yan.

**[07:59:07.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006781)  
Would you agree with me, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:59:09.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006782)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[07:59:10.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006783)  
na nakakaduda na po yung mag-target ka 500,

**[07:59:13.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006784)  
ma-accomplish mo 5,500?

**[07:59:17.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006785)  
Tama po ba?

**[07:59:19.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006786)  
Malayo po talaga, Mr. Speaker.

**[07:59:21.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006787)  
Though, ang sabi po ng NSA,

**[07:59:25.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006788)  
NSE,

**[07:59:26.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006789)  
kasi po,

**[07:59:27.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006790)  
depended daw po,

**[07:59:28.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006791)  
talaga sa number of incidents.

**[07:59:30.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006792)  
Okay, sige.

**[07:59:35.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006793)  
Tinanggal ko na, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:59:37.100] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006794)  
yung anim na katanungan

**[07:59:38.780] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006795)  
kasi alam ko,

**[07:59:39.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006796)  
mahirapan sila magsagot.

**[07:59:41.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006797)  
Inaantok na rin po yung presiding officer.

**[07:59:44.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006798)  
So, Mr. Speaker,

**[07:59:46.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006799)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[07:59:47.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006800)  
malaming salamat sa kasagutan.

**[07:59:50.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006801)  
There being no other members from the minority

**[07:59:52.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006802)  
who wanted to interpelate,

**[07:59:54.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006803)  
I move to terminate the period of interpellation

**[07:59:57.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006804)  
and debate

**[07:59:58.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006805)  
to

**[08:00:00.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006806)  
the proposed budget of the

**[08:00:02.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006807)  
National Security Council for the

**[08:00:04.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006808)  
fiscal year 2027.

**[08:00:06.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006809)  
I so move, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:00:08.460] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006810)  
What does the [unclear]?

**[08:00:10.320] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006811)  
Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority,

**[08:00:12.420] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006812)  
we join the minority in the motion to terminate

**[08:00:14.460] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006813)  
the period of interpellations

**[08:00:15.980] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006814)  
on the proposed budget of the National

**[08:00:18.180] Rep. Patrick Michael D. Vargas** (asr-006815)  
Security Council. I so move, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:00:20.720] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006816)  
There is a joint motion

**[08:00:22.480] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006817)  
to terminate

**[08:00:23.720] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006818)  
the interpellation on the proposed

**[08:00:26.260] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006819)  
budget of the National Security

**[08:00:28.460] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006820)  
Council.

**[08:00:30.000] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006821)  
Is there any objection?

**[08:00:32.040] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006822)  
Hearing none, the interpellation

**[08:00:34.300] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006823)  
on the proposed budget of the

**[08:00:36.100] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006824)  
National Security Council

**[08:00:38.340] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006825)  
is thereby terminated.

**[08:00:41.420] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006826)  
You are the leader.

**[08:00:49.640] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006827)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:00:50.820] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006828)  
I move to suspend for a few minutes.

**[08:00:53.100] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-006829)  
Session is suspended.

**[08:03:30.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006835)  
Session resumed.

**[08:03:35.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006836)  
Before we proceed,

**[08:03:37.020] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006837)  
Majority Leader,

**[08:03:38.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006838)  
can we all please rise

**[08:03:40.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006839)  
for a moment

**[08:03:43.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006840)  
of silence and offer a prayer

**[08:03:45.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006841)  
for our beloved

**[08:03:47.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006842)  
colleague, the Honorable

**[08:03:49.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006843)  
Ciriaco B. Gato,

**[08:03:51.860] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006844)  
who passed away

**[08:03:53.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006845)  
earlier today.

**[08:04:00.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006846)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:04:18.440] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006847)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to consider

**[08:04:20.580] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006848)  
the proposed budget of the

**[08:04:22.780] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006849)  
National Amnesty

**[08:04:24.400] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006850)  
Commission.

**[08:04:25.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006851)  
There is a motion to consider

**[08:04:27.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006852)  
the budget of the National

**[08:04:29.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006853)  
Amnesty Commission.

**[08:04:30.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006854)  
Is there any objection?

**[08:04:32.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006855)  
Hearing none. Motion is carried.

**[08:04:35.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006856)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:04:36.480] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006857)  
Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge

**[08:04:38.120] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006858)  
the heads and officials of the

**[08:04:40.420] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006859)  
National Amnesty Commission,

**[08:04:42.460] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006860)  
namely Chairperson Leah C.

**[08:04:45.120] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006861)  
Tanodra Armamento,

**[08:04:47.040] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006862)  
Commissioner

**[08:04:47.680] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006863)  
Jamar M.

**[08:04:50.500] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006864)  
Kulayan, Commissioner

**[08:04:52.180] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006865)  
Ser-me L.

**[08:04:54.800] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006866)  
Ayuyao.

**[08:04:58.398] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006867)  
To the officers,

**[08:05:00.638] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006868)  
and the heads of the National Amnesty Commission,

**[08:05:03.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006869)  
namely Chairperson Leah Tanodra Armamento,

**[08:05:07.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006870)  
Commissioner Jamar M. Kulayan,

**[08:05:10.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006871)  
and Commissioner Ser-me Ayuyao,

**[08:05:12.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006872)  
on behalf of Speaker Bojie Dy

**[08:05:15.120] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006873)  
and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos,

**[08:05:17.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006874)  
Sir, Ma'am, good evening.

**[08:05:19.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006875)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[08:05:21.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006876)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:05:25.200] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006877)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we open the period of sponsorship and debate.

**[08:05:29.840] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006879)  
I move that we recognize the Honorable Jose Joboy S. Aquino II,

**[08:05:35.840] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006880)  
Vice Chairperson of Committee on Appropriation

**[08:05:40.240] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006881)  
to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission.

**[08:05:45.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006882)  
The gentleman from the Lone District of Butuan, Vice Chair Joboy Aquino,

**[08:05:51.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006883)  
Mayong Gabie, you are recognized.

**[08:05:54.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006884)  
Yes, Mayong Gabie, Mr. Speaker,

**[08:05:57.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006885)  
distinguished colleagues,

**[08:05:59.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006886)  
it is my privilege to sponsor the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission

**[08:06:06.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006887)  
for the fiscal year 2027,

**[08:06:09.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006888)  
amounting to 266,700,000.

**[08:06:15.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006889)  
As an institution entrusted with implementing the Government's Amnesty Program

**[08:06:23.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006890)  
for qualified beneficiaries in accordance with existing laws

**[08:06:28.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006891)  
and proclamations,

**[08:06:30.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006892)  
the Commission plays an important role in supporting the Government's efforts

**[08:06:36.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006893)  
towards reconciliation, reintegration, and the promotion of lasting peace

**[08:06:43.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006894)  
by providing a lawful mechanism through which qualified individuals

**[08:06:50.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006895)  
may avail themselves of amnesty.

**[08:06:54.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006896)  
Its work requires

**[08:06:57.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006897)  
not only the proper evaluation and processing of applicants,

**[08:07:05.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006898)  
but also effective coordination with concerned government agencies

**[08:07:11.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006899)  
to ensure that the objectives of the Amnesty Program

**[08:07:16.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006900)  
are carried out efficiently and in accordance with the law.

**[08:07:21.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006901)  
As we deliberate on the fiscal year 2027,

**[08:07:25.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006902)  
budget of the National Amnesty Commission,

**[08:07:30.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006903)  
we recognize the importance of providing the resources necessary

**[08:07:36.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006904)  
for the Commission to fulfill its mandate

**[08:07:40.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006905)  
while ensuring accountability and prudent use of public funds.

**[08:07:47.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006906)  
The Commission's appropriations must support the effective administration

**[08:07:53.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006907)  
of the Amnesty Program,

**[08:07:56.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006908)  
including the processing and issuance of amnesty grants

**[08:08:01.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006909)  
as well as the institutional requirements necessary for its operations.

**[08:08:08.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006910)  
In view of the foregoing,

**[08:08:10.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006911)  
I therefore ask our fellow members of this August Chamber

**[08:08:14.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006912)  
to support the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission

**[08:08:20.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006913)  
for the successful implementation

**[08:08:22.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006914)  
of the Amnesty Program.

**[08:08:26.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006915)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:08:28.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006916)  
This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues.

**[08:08:34.430] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006917)  
Salamat, Vice Chair Joboy. Majority Leader.

**[08:08:38.200] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006918)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[08:08:40.240] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006919)  
the Honorable Presley C. De Jesus from PHILRECA Party-list

**[08:08:45.240] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-006920)  
to interpellate the proposed budget of the National Amnesty Commission.

**[08:08:50.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006921)  
The gentleman from

**[08:08:52.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006922)  
PHILRECA Party-list,

**[08:08:54.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006923)  
Honorable Presley De Jesus.

**[08:08:58.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006924)  
Sir, you may interpellate the sponsor.

**[08:09:03.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006925)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:09:05.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006926)  
I have only a few questions.

**[08:09:07.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006927)  
First, the National Amnesty Commission was created precisely

**[08:09:12.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006928)  
to receive, process, and determine whether applicants are entitled to amnesty

**[08:09:18.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006929)  
under Executive Order No. 125,

**[08:09:20.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006930)  
as amended by Executive Order 47.

**[08:09:23.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006931)  
This is the Commission's principal statutory mandate.

**[08:09:28.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006932)  
The application period for the four amnesty proclamations

**[08:09:32.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006933)  
ran from March 2024 until March 2026.

**[08:09:37.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006934)  
Yet, based on the Commission's reported figures,

**[08:09:41.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006935)  
only 20 applicants have been granted amnesty

**[08:09:45.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006936)  
by the close of the application period,

**[08:09:47.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006937)  
out of approximately 16,000 applicants.

**[08:09:49.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006938)  
This is equivalent to only 0.1232% of applications received.

**[08:10:01.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006939)  
How does the Commission justify this level of output

**[08:10:05.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006940)  
after two full years of implementation?

**[08:10:09.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006941)  
More importantly, how many of the 16,230 applications

**[08:10:14.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006942)  
have actually been fully evaluated and resolved?

**[08:10:17.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006943)  
Whether approved, denied, or otherwise disposed of?

**[08:10:22.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006944)  
And how many remain pending?

**[08:10:31.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006945)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:10:38.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006946)  
There were several factors that affect this and reasons.

**[08:10:44.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006947)  
Number one, the incomplete submitted documents.

**[08:10:46.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006948)  
Many applications lack documents necessary

**[08:10:51.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006949)  
for the complete review of the amnesty application.

**[08:10:54.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006950)  
Requiring them to submit lacking documents

**[08:10:58.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006951)  
is challenging due to logistical and financial concerns,

**[08:11:03.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006952)  
as well as reluctance of other agencies to coordinate.

**[08:11:08.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006953)  
NAC response: continuous streamlining and simplification

**[08:11:14.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006954)  
of process, determining which documentary requirements

**[08:11:19.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006955)  
can be dispensed with.

**[08:11:21.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006956)  
Number two, unresponsive and uncooperative agencies.

**[08:11:26.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006957)  
Some agencies are not familiar with the NAC.

**[08:11:29.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006958)  
Some are reluctant to share documents with the NAC.

**[08:11:33.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006959)  
Some use the Data Privacy Act to refuse NAC access

**[08:11:39.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006960)  
to requested documents.

**[08:11:42.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006961)  
Continuous engagement with these agencies

**[08:11:47.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006962)  
to make NAC known to them.

**[08:11:50.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006963)  
Orientations on the mandate of the NAC,

**[08:11:53.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006964)  
reiteration that the request for documents

**[08:11:57.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006965)  
is pursuant to NAC's mandate,

**[08:12:00.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006966)  
making it official function.

**[08:12:04.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006967)  
Number three, difficulty in declaring a quorum

**[08:12:08.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006968)  
for lab members.

**[08:12:10.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006969)  
Many amnesty applications need to undergo

**[08:12:13.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006970)  
a case conference by lab members.

**[08:12:16.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006971)  
Each lab has five members,

**[08:12:18.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006972)  
which a quorum fixed at three members

**[08:12:21.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006973)  
to formally constitute a body.

**[08:12:24.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006974)  
These lab members are employed primarily

**[08:12:27.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006975)  
in different offices.

**[08:12:29.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006976)  
Thus, their schedules are usually difficult to manage,

**[08:12:33.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006977)  
resulting in regular meetings.

**[08:12:37.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006978)  
Ensuring honoraria are released

**[08:12:40.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006979)  
in a timely manner.

**[08:12:42.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006980)  
Proper coordination and engagement

**[08:12:45.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006981)  
with the lab members,

**[08:12:46.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006982)  
capacitating lab secretariat

**[08:12:49.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006983)  
on how to coordinate better with lab members.

**[08:12:53.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006984)  
Number four, different review process.

**[08:12:57.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006985)  
Review process by the ex-official members

**[08:13:01.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006986)  
involve a separate and independent process

**[08:13:05.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006987)  
and standard.

**[08:13:07.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006988)  
This takes up time.

**[08:13:09.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006989)  
It takes up time that is not within the process

**[08:13:13.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006990)  
that can be controlled by NAC.

**[08:13:17.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006991)  
NAC response is to continue coordination,

**[08:13:23.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006992)  
streamlining of process,

**[08:13:25.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006993)  
regular process check,

**[08:13:27.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006994)  
and technical working group meetings.

**[08:13:30.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006995)  
Designation of personnel

**[08:13:32.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006996)  
to specifically follow up

**[08:13:35.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006997)  
with each ex-official member.

**[08:13:39.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006998)  
Number five, low manpower.

**[08:13:43.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-006999)  
With the postponement of hiring of COS

**[08:13:47.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007000)  
imposed by civil service,

**[08:13:50.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007001)  
the NAC operates with its limited manpower.

**[08:13:57.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007002)  
With the surge of the amnesty application

**[08:14:00.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007003)  
received corresponding increase in manpower

**[08:14:03.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007004)  
to who will process this amnesty application.

**[08:14:08.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007005)  
Necessary.

**[08:14:10.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007006)  
The response of NAC.

**[08:14:12.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007007)  
Letter request sent to COA DBM

**[08:14:16.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007008)  
and civil service for an exemption.

**[08:14:19.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007009)  
Streamlining of process to simplify

**[08:14:22.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007010)  
or shorten process for faster processing.

**[08:14:26.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007011)  
Continuous capacity building

**[08:14:29.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007012)  
and process checking.

**[08:14:31.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007013)  
Commitment to deliver NAC mandate

**[08:14:35.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007014)  
and digitalization.

**[08:14:37.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007015)  
Thank you.

**[08:14:40.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007016)  
Thank you,

**[08:14:41.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007017)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:14:42.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007018)  
Distinguished Sponsor.

**[08:14:45.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007019)  
Record shows that

**[08:14:47.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007020)  
there are currently 16,230 pending applicants

**[08:14:50.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007021)  
for amnesty.

**[08:14:52.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007022)  
Yet the data indicates that only

**[08:14:55.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007023)  
20 applications have been approved

**[08:14:57.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007024)  
over the past three years.

**[08:14:59.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007025)  
So we're

**[08:15:00.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007026)  
just averaging 7 applicants

**[08:15:02.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007027)  
per year. It will

**[08:15:04.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007028)  
take the commission over

**[08:15:05.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007029)  
two millennia to clear

**[08:15:07.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007030)  
the existing backlog.

**[08:15:09.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007031)  
What concrete time-bound strategy is

**[08:15:11.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007032)  
the NAC implementing to

**[08:15:13.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007033)  
accelerate the vetting approval process?

**[08:15:16.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007034)  
Because for the last 3 years,

**[08:15:17.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007035)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:15:19.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007036)  
20 lang.

**[08:15:21.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007037)  
So we're averaging 7

**[08:15:23.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007038)  
per year. So we have

**[08:15:25.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007039)  
16,000. So ano pong strategy

**[08:15:27.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007040)  
ang gagawin natin para po

**[08:15:29.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007041)  
mapabilis itong

**[08:15:31.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007042)  
mga nag-apply po ng amnesty?

**[08:15:34.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007043)  
Well,

**[08:15:35.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007044)  
right now, 3,000

**[08:15:37.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007045)  
result of the amnesty

**[08:15:39.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007046)  
is 3,166.

**[08:15:43.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007047)  
Distinguished colleague.

**[08:15:46.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007048)  
So maliho yung

**[08:15:47.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007049)  
20 for the last 3 years?

**[08:15:54.960] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007050)  
Actually,

**[08:15:55.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007051)  
the 20

**[08:15:56.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007052)  
is already granted by the President.

**[08:15:59.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007053)  
Yes, for the last 3 years.

**[08:16:03.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007055)  
In fact,

**[08:16:05.780] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007056)  
office of the, I'm sorry,

**[08:16:07.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007057)  
but it's office of the President,

**[08:16:09.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007058)  
25, 25

**[08:16:11.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007059)  
distinguished colleague.

**[08:16:14.260] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007060)  
And as

**[08:16:15.520] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007061)  
earlier also as I've mentioned,

**[08:16:18.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007062)  
those 5 factors

**[08:16:19.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007063)  
that can make it

**[08:16:21.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007064)  
faster

**[08:16:22.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007065)  
for the processing

**[08:16:25.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007066)  
of the application.

**[08:16:26.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007067)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:16:28.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007068)  
So in the next,

**[08:16:29.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007069)  
few years ba, makikita natin,

**[08:16:31.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007070)  
it will,

**[08:16:32.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007071)  
we will granted more

**[08:16:35.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007072)  
amnesty aside from

**[08:16:37.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007073)  
the 20 na na-mention. Bibilis ho ba ito?

**[08:16:39.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007074)  
So ano ba yung proseso na gagawin nyo

**[08:16:41.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007075)  
para mapabilis? Everything has been

**[08:16:43.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007076)  
vetted, right?

**[08:16:45.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007077)  
Tomorrow, there will be a right shop.

**[08:16:48.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007078)  
Okay.

**[08:16:48.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007078-split-2)  
Especially

**[08:16:49.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007079)  
if the budget for NAC will be

**[08:16:51.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007080)  
approved tonight.

**[08:16:53.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007081)  
Thank you very much, Speaker. Distinguished colleague.

**[08:16:56.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007082)  
Thank you very much, Speaker. Of course,

**[08:16:57.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007083)  
to the Distinguished Honor,

**[08:16:59.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007084)  
sponsor na isa nating

**[08:17:01.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007085)  
inidulo. So I don't want to give

**[08:17:04.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007086)  
you hard time because it's very active

**[08:17:05.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007087)  
here. There being no, Mr. Speaker,

**[08:17:08.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007088)  
there being no members

**[08:17:09.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007089)  
of the minority who wishes

**[08:17:11.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007090)  
to interpellate,

**[08:17:14.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007091)  
I move to terminate

**[08:17:15.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007092)  
the sponsorship and debate

**[08:17:18.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007093)  
for the budget of National

**[08:17:19.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007094)  
Amnesty Commission.

**[08:17:21.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-007095)  
I so move, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:17:23.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007096)  
What does the House say?

**[08:17:25.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007097)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:17:28.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007098)  
I would like to thank the

**[08:17:29.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007099)  
my colleagues,

**[08:17:31.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007100)  
distinguished colleagues here

**[08:17:33.960] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007101)  
in the House, both the minority

**[08:17:36.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007102)  
and the majority. Thank you.

**[08:17:39.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007103)  
What does the House say?

**[08:17:41.720] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007104)  
Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority,

**[08:17:44.340] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007105)  
we join the minority in the motion

**[08:17:46.180] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007106)  
to terminate the period

**[08:17:48.120] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007107)  
of interpellation

**[08:17:49.200] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007108)  
on the budget of the

**[08:17:51.980] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007109)  
National

**[08:17:54.100] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007110)  
Amnesty Commission.

**[08:17:56.300] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007111)  
There is a joint motion to terminate

**[08:17:58.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007112)  
the interpellation on the

**[08:17:59.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007113)  
proposed budget for the

**[08:18:01.620] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007114)  
National Amnesty Commission.

**[08:18:03.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007115)  
There any objection? Chair,

**[08:18:05.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007116)  
hearing none. The interpellation

**[08:18:07.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007117)  
on the proposed budget

**[08:18:09.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007118)  
of the National Amnesty

**[08:18:11.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007119)  
Commission is

**[08:18:13.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007120)  
terminated.

**[08:18:17.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007121)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:18:19.980] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007122)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:18:21.380] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-007123)  
I move to suspend for a few minutes.

**[08:18:23.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007124)  
Session suspended.

**[08:18:27.620] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007125)  
Congrats, Joboy.

**[08:21:17.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007156)  
Session resumed.

**[08:21:19.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007157)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:21:23.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007158)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:21:25.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007159)  
I move to consider the proposed

**[08:21:27.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007160)  
budget of the

**[08:21:29.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007161)  
Office of the Presidential Advisor

**[08:21:31.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007162)  
on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity.

**[08:21:35.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007163)  
There is a motion to consider the budget

**[08:21:37.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007164)  
of the Office of the Presidential Advisor

**[08:21:39.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007165)  
on Peace,

**[08:21:41.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007166)  
Reconciliation, and Unity.

**[08:21:43.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007167)  
There is no objection.

**[08:21:45.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007168)  
Motion is carried. Majority Leader.

**[08:21:47.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007169)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:21:49.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007170)  
may we acknowledge the heads

**[08:21:51.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007171)  
and officials of the

**[08:21:53.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007172)  
Office of the Presidential Advisor

**[08:21:55.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007173)  
on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity,

**[08:21:57.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007174)  
namely,

**[08:21:59.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007175)  
Mel Senen Sarmiento,

**[08:22:01.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007176)  
Yusec

**[08:22:03.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007177)  
Hefer Refamonte

**[08:22:05.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007178)  
Mancol,

**[08:22:07.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007179)  
Yusec Wilben

**[08:22:09.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007180)  
Mayor,

**[08:22:11.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007181)  
Yusec Noel Alvarez

**[08:22:13.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007182)  
Baraceros,

**[08:22:15.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007183)  
Asec Mary Marjorie Martin

**[08:22:17.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007184)  
Chan, and

**[08:22:19.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007185)  
Asec Andres S. Aguinaldo, Jr.

**[08:22:23.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007186)  
To the heads of

**[08:22:25.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007187)  
the Office of the

**[08:22:27.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007188)  
Presidential

**[08:22:29.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007189)  
Advisor on Peace,

**[08:22:31.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007190)  
Reconciliation, and Unity,

**[08:22:33.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007191)  
namely, a colleague,

**[08:22:35.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007192)  
former Secretary Mel

**[08:22:37.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007193)  
Senen Sarmiento,

**[08:22:39.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007194)  
Yusec Hefer Refamonte

**[08:22:41.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007195)  
Mancol, Yusec Winbel

**[08:22:43.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007196)  
Mayor, Yusec Noel

**[08:22:45.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007197)  
Alvarez Baraceros,

**[08:22:47.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007198)  
Asec Mary Marjorie Martin Chan,

**[08:22:49.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007199)  
Asec Andres S. Aguinaldo, Jr.

**[08:22:51.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007200)  
In behalf of Speaker

**[08:22:53.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007201)  
Bojie Dy and Majority Leader

**[08:22:55.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007202)  
Sandro Marcos, welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[08:22:57.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007203)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:22:59.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007204)  
Mr. Speaker, I

**[08:23:01.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007205)  
move that we open the period

**[08:23:03.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007206)  
of sponsorship and debate

**[08:23:05.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007207)  
and accordingly

**[08:23:07.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007208)  
we recognize

**[08:23:09.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007209)  
the Vice Chairman of

**[08:23:11.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007210)  
the Committee on Appropriation,

**[08:23:13.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007211)  
the Honorable Jose Joboy

**[08:23:15.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007212)  
Aquino of the Lone District

**[08:23:17.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007213)  
of Butuan to sponsor

**[08:23:19.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007214)  
the proposed budget.

**[08:23:21.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007215)  
The gentleman from the Lone District

**[08:23:23.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007216)  
of Butuan, Vice Chair Joboy

**[08:23:25.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007217)  
Aquino. Sir,

**[08:23:27.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007218)  
you have the floor.

**[08:23:29.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007219)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:23:31.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007220)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished

**[08:23:33.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007221)  
colleagues, I rise

**[08:23:35.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007222)  
to sponsor the proposed fiscal

**[08:23:37.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007223)  
year 2027

**[08:23:39.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007224)  
budget

**[08:23:41.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007225)  
of the Office of the Presidential

**[08:23:43.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007226)  
Advisor on Peace,

**[08:23:45.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007227)  
Reconciliation, and

**[08:23:47.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007228)  
Unity, amounting

**[08:23:49.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007229)  
to 9.3 billion.

**[08:23:51.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007230)  
The OPAPRU

**[08:23:53.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007231)  
as the government's lead agency

**[08:23:55.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007232)  
in the coordination and

**[08:23:57.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007233)  
implementation of the

**[08:23:59.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007234)  
comprehensive peace process.

**[08:24:01.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007235)  
It plays a

**[08:24:03.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007236)  
vital role in advancing

**[08:24:05.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007237)  
the government's peace

**[08:24:07.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007238)  
agenda by facilitating

**[08:24:09.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007239)  
the implementation of

**[08:24:11.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007240)  
peace agreements,

**[08:24:13.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007241)  
peace agenda by facilitating

**[08:24:15.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007242)  
implementation of government's

**[08:24:17.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007243)  
agreements,

**[08:24:19.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007244)  
supporting normalization

**[08:24:21.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007245)  
and reconciliation

**[08:24:23.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007246)  
initiatives, and coordinating

**[08:24:25.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007247)  
development interventions

**[08:24:27.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007248)  
in conflict of

**[08:24:29.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007249)  
affected and conflict

**[08:24:31.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007250)  
vulnerable communities.

**[08:24:33.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007251)  
Its mandate

**[08:24:35.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007252)  
is particularly

**[08:24:37.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007253)  
significant in sustaining

**[08:24:39.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007254)  
the gains of the peace

**[08:24:41.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007255)  
process with various

**[08:24:43.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007256)  
stakeholders and translating

**[08:24:45.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007257)  
peace agreements into

**[08:24:47.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007258)  
concrete programs

**[08:24:49.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007259)  
that improve the lives

**[08:24:51.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007260)  
and prospects of the

**[08:24:53.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007261)  
communities that have

**[08:24:55.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007262)  
experienced

**[08:24:57.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007263)  
conflict.

**[08:24:59.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007264)  
As we deliberate on the

**[08:25:01.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007265)  
fiscal year 2027 budget

**[08:25:03.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007266)  
of the OPAPRU, we

**[08:25:05.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007267)  
recognize that sustaining

**[08:25:07.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007268)  
peace requires more

**[08:25:09.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007269)  
than conclusion agreements.

**[08:25:11.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007270)  
It requires

**[08:25:13.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007271)  
consistent implementation,

**[08:25:15.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007272)  
meaningful

**[08:25:17.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007273)  
community engagement,

**[08:25:19.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007274)  
and investment that

**[08:25:21.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007275)  
address the socio-economic

**[08:25:23.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007276)  
conditions that

**[08:25:25.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007277)  
underpin lasting

**[08:25:27.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007278)  
peace.

**[08:25:29.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007279)  
The proposed budget must

**[08:25:31.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007280)  
therefore support the effective

**[08:25:33.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007281)  
implementation of peace and

**[08:25:35.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007282)  
normalization programs

**[08:25:37.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007283)  
including development,

**[08:25:39.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007284)  
interventions

**[08:25:41.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007285)  
in conflict

**[08:25:43.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007286)  
affected areas

**[08:25:45.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007287)  
while ensuring

**[08:25:47.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007288)  
transparency,

**[08:25:49.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007289)  
accountability, and

**[08:25:51.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007290)  
measurable results

**[08:25:53.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007291)  
in the spirit of a

**[08:25:55.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007292)  
people-centered and

**[08:25:57.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007293)  
inclusive

**[08:25:59.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007294)  
national budget.

**[08:26:01.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007295)  
I respectfully

**[08:26:03.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007296)  
present

**[08:26:05.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007297)  
the proposed fiscal year

**[08:26:07.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007298)  
2027 budget

**[08:26:09.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007299)  
of the OPAPRU

**[08:26:11.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007300)  
for the consideration

**[08:26:13.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007301)  
of this honorable chamber.

**[08:26:15.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007302)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[08:26:17.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007303)  
This representation

**[08:26:19.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007304)  
is now ready to answer

**[08:26:21.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007305)  
questions from our colleagues.

**[08:26:23.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007306)  
Salamat, Congressman

**[08:26:25.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007307)  
Joboy Aquino, Majority Leader.

**[08:26:27.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007308)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:26:29.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007309)  
to start the interpellation

**[08:26:31.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007310)  
of the proposed budget,

**[08:26:33.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007311)  
I move to recognize

**[08:26:35.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007312)  
Representative Elijah R.

**[08:26:37.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007313)  
San Fernando of the

**[08:26:39.540] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-007314)  
Kamangagawa Party List.

**[08:26:43.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007315)  
Representative from the Kamangagawa

**[08:26:45.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007316)  
Party List,

**[08:26:47.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007317)  
Honorable Elijah San Fernando,

**[08:26:49.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007318)  
Sir, you are recognized

**[08:26:51.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007319)  
to interpellate the sponsor.

**[08:26:53.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007320)  
Salamat po, Mr. Speaker, at sa ating butihing

**[08:26:55.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007321)  
sponsor. Una,

**[08:26:57.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007322)  
ikinatutuwa po ng

**[08:26:59.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007323)  
kinatawang ito at ng mga

**[08:27:01.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007324)  
peace advocates na sa wakas

**[08:27:03.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007325)  
ay meron na po tayong bagong

**[08:27:05.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007326)  
presidential advisor on peace

**[08:27:07.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007327)  
reconciliation and unity

**[08:27:09.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007328)  
sa katauhan po ni Sekretary

**[08:27:11.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007329)  
Mel Sarmiento. At ngayong araw po ay

**[08:27:13.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007330)  
ginugunitan natin ang

**[08:27:15.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007331)  
pandaigdigang araw ng kapayapaan,

**[08:27:17.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007332)  
International Day of Peace.

**[08:27:19.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007333)  
Meron lang po ilang mga katanungan

**[08:27:21.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007334)  
hinggil po sa budget

**[08:27:23.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007335)  
ng OPAPRO.

**[08:27:25.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007336)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:27:27.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007337)  
Mr. Speaker, nangihingi

**[08:27:29.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007338)  
ng dagdag

**[08:27:31.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007339)  
1.171

**[08:27:33.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007340)  
billion pesos o

**[08:27:35.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007341)  
14.4%

**[08:27:37.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007342)  
increase

**[08:27:39.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007343)  
sa budget ang OPAPRO.

**[08:27:41.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007344)  
Pero sa

**[08:27:43.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007345)  
performance indicators,

**[08:27:45.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007346)  
nananatiling

**[08:27:47.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007347)  
parehas ang

**[08:27:49.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007348)  
ilang targets.

**[08:27:51.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007349)  
Alimbawa po,

**[08:27:53.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007350)  
sa Annex on Normalization,

**[08:27:55.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007351)  
20%,

**[08:27:57.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007352)  
for the next year, 20%.

**[08:27:59.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007353)  
For the current year.

**[08:28:01.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007354)  
Tapos sa final peace agreements,

**[08:28:03.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007355)  
70%. Parehas din po ito.

**[08:28:07.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007356)  
Ano po exactly ang pinupondohan

**[08:28:09.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007357)  
natin?

**[08:28:11.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007358)  
Bakit pataas ang

**[08:28:13.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007359)  
requested budget

**[08:28:15.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007360)  
pero walang significant

**[08:28:17.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007361)  
improvement sa outcomes,

**[08:28:19.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007362)  
Mr. Sponsor?

**[08:28:57.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007374)  
Thank you, distinguished colleague.

**[08:29:02.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007375)  
Well, way back

**[08:29:03.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007376)  
in 2025,

**[08:29:06.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007377)  
well,

**[08:29:07.520] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007378)  
it's true that there was a

**[08:29:09.160] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007379)  
backlog.

**[08:29:12.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007380)  
Yeah?

**[08:29:13.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007381)  
And it was because, I think,

**[08:29:15.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007382)  
one of the factors was

**[08:29:17.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007383)  
the BARM election.

**[08:29:20.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007384)  
Now that the BARM

**[08:29:21.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007385)  
election is ready,

**[08:29:23.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007386)  
already, or finished,

**[08:29:25.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007387)  
or materialized,

**[08:29:26.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007388)  
come 2026,

**[08:29:28.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007389)  
there's already a

**[08:29:29.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007390)  
increase in target.

**[08:29:32.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007391)  
It's like

**[08:29:34.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007392)  
67%

**[08:29:36.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007393)  
with

**[08:29:37.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007394)  
MALF.

**[08:29:39.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007395)  
And with MLF,

**[08:29:42.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007396)  
the MNLF

**[08:29:43.860] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007397)  
is going to be 70%.

**[08:29:47.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007398)  
So, August

**[08:29:48.160] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007399)  
31, 2026,

**[08:29:50.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007400)  
with RPA, it's

**[08:29:52.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007401)  
84%.

**[08:29:53.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007402)  
And with CPL,

**[08:29:55.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007403)  
a

**[08:29:55.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007404)  
90%

**[08:29:56.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007405)  
91%.

**[08:29:57.420] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007406)  
Overall,

**[08:30:00.160] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007407)  
OPAPRU

**[08:30:00.718] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007409)  
has already achieved 71.4% of its peace agreement commitment with the following breakdown.

**[08:30:10.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007410)  
Program 1, GPH-MILF peace process, 67%.

**[08:30:15.860] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007411)  
Program 2, GPH-MNLF peace process, 43%.

**[08:30:20.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007412)  
Program 4, GPH-CBA-CPLA peace process, 91%.

**[08:30:27.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007413)  
Program 4, GPH-RPM-PRPA-ABB peace process, 84.6%.

**[08:30:37.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007414)  
Babalikan po natin yan, Mr. Sponsor, yung katanungan dyan.

**[08:30:44.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007415)  
Dito po sa National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security.

**[08:30:52.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007416)  
Noong 2025, ang target po ng OPAPRO ay,

**[08:30:57.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007417)  
600 WPS beneficiaries and 20 localized implementation.

**[08:31:05.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007418)  
Tapos sa output, lumalabas po 3,227.

**[08:31:10.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007419)  
And out of the 600 target na beneficiaries,

**[08:31:13.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007420)  
ang output ay 3,227 beneficiaries and 43 localized implementation.

**[08:31:20.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007421)  
Out of the target of 20 na localized implementation.

**[08:31:24.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007422)  
Ngayon, for 2027,

**[08:31:26.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007423)  
ang target po ng OPAPRO ay 650 and 20 respectively.

**[08:31:33.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007424)  
So this is kind of weird, Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:31:36.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007425)  
kasi bakit po yung target ngayon for fiscal year 2027

**[08:31:42.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007426)  
ay mas mababa compared to the actual accomplishment.

**[08:31:48.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007427)  
The question, Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

**[08:31:51.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007428)  
ano po ba yung sa universe po ng targets ng OPAPRO?

**[08:31:56.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007429)  
Ano ba talaga yung tinatarget?

**[08:31:59.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007430)  
Particularly on National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security.

**[08:32:03.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007431)  
Kasi kung titignan natin, Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:32:06.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007432)  
2025, target, 600 beneficiaries, lagpas-lagpas.

**[08:32:13.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007433)  
And then come 2027, nire-request ngayon ng OPAPRO,

**[08:32:17.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007434)  
600 yung target.

**[08:32:19.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007435)  
So in the universe of targets, ano ba yung target na pinag-uusapan natin, Mr. Sponsor?

**[08:32:24.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007436)  
Yes.

**[08:32:26.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007437)  
Honorable Colleague, if I may please explain first,

**[08:32:32.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007438)  
just like to explain about this National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security

**[08:32:41.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007439)  
and its localization is 2023 to 2033.

**[08:32:48.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007440)  
It's being localized through trainings, civil society collaboration, and integration,

**[08:32:56.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007441)  
of women's peace and security into plans, budgets, and leadership programs.

**[08:33:06.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007442)  
Women's participation expanding in recovery, psychosocial services, and reintegration,

**[08:33:15.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007443)  
while academic and local partners strengthen leadership capacity through joint action

**[08:33:24.720] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007444)  
with other and other.

**[08:33:26.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007445)  
And as CWPS members, member agencies, such as DOH, DSWD, and TESDA.

**[08:33:36.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007446)  
Persistent gaps include limited data, uneven policy support, and weak integration across programs.

**[08:33:48.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007447)  
Recognizing this, National NAPWPS Dashboard,

**[08:33:56.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007448)  
was developed with the DICT, which is set to be public by the end of 2026.

**[08:34:05.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007449)  
Localization and capacity development for LGUs are underway

**[08:34:11.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007450)  
in 18 provinces nationwide,

**[08:34:14.960] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007451)  
with varying status of development.

**[08:34:20.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007452)  
Protection and mainstreaming efforts

**[08:34:23.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007453)  
provide vulnerable women and girls with social support,

**[08:34:28.160] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007454)  
education, health services and inclusion in policy frameworks.

**[08:34:34.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007455)  
Advocacy platforms like CHEDS, SGPCWs, Tinig ng Kababaihan, and Consultation Amplify, WPS Perspectives, Resource Constraints, Institutional Resistance, and Weak Accountability

**[08:34:56.780] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007456)  
We highlight the need for sustained investment and strong buy-in.

**[08:35:04.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007457)  
Mr. Sponsor, to save time, makikihingi na lang po ang kinatawang ito ng yung targets po, yung binabanggit niyo po kanina, on National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security.

**[08:35:18.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007458)  
If this can be furnished to my office para po makita natin, would that be okay to the OPA Pro?

**[08:35:24.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007459)  
Yes, of course.

**[08:35:26.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007460)  
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:35:30.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007461)  
Thank you.

**[08:35:31.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007462)  
Balikan ko po yung punto ko kanina doon sa hinihinging budget at doon sa outcome indicators, performance indicators ng OPA Pro.

**[08:35:44.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007463)  
Doon sa normalization track kasi merong mga major component yan.

**[08:35:48.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007464)  
Security, socioeconomic development, confidence building, transitional justice, and reconciliation.

**[08:35:56.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007465)  
Kaya po yung tanong ko kanina, humihingi o nagre-request ang OPA Pro ng mas mataas na budget, but the targets remain the same.

**[08:36:12.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007466)  
So, bakit nagre-request ng mas papalaking budget ang OPA Pro pero yung targets ay hindi gumagalaw?

**[08:36:23.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007467)  
So, if we're going to take a look into the...

**[08:36:26.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007468)  
Outcome indicators, almost the same since 2022.

**[08:36:31.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007469)  
16% 2022, 20% 2024, 20% 2025, 20% ulit 2026, and you are targeting 20% for 2027.

**[08:36:47.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007470)  
This representation would like to be clarified on the matter, ano ba itong 20% na pinag-uusapan natin?

**[08:36:54.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007471)  
20% of what?

**[08:36:56.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007472)  
Again, the normalization track has major components.

**[08:37:00.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007473)  
20% of what ang kinukomplete natin dito?

**[08:37:04.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007474)  
And the following question to that, why is it only 20%?

**[08:37:09.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007475)  
In the general targets, but 20%, iplinakda ng 20% since the previous years, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:37:16.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007476)  
Yes, Honorable Distinguished Colleague, there is a catch-up plan for the MIL.

**[08:37:25.660] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007477)  
20,000.

**[08:37:26.780] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007478)  
There are 40,000 MILF combatants, and 26,000.

**[08:37:39.640] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007479)  
There are right now 26,145 existing, and we have 40,000 more combatants.

**[08:37:48.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007480)  
And there is a catch-up plan that will be implemented.

**[08:37:52.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007481)  
So, ito po sa combatants po ito, no?

**[08:37:56.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007482)  
For the final...

**[08:37:56.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007483)  
Phase noong decommissioning.

**[08:37:59.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007484)  
Sa socio-economic plan nito.

**[08:38:01.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007485)  
Yes, decommissioning.

**[08:38:02.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007486)  
Kaya nga po, ang tanong ko, doon sa 20%, kasi maraming components yan eh.

**[08:38:08.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007487)  
Ano ba yung tina-target ng OPA-PRO?

**[08:38:10.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007488)  
Doon sa 20%?

**[08:38:10.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007489)  
Socio-economic.

**[08:38:12.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007490)  
Socio-economic?

**[08:38:12.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007491)  
Yes.

**[08:38:13.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007492)  
So, on the socio-economic provisions, doon sa normalization track, 20%.

**[08:38:18.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007493)  
What about yung other targets po, other components ng Annex of Normalization?

**[08:38:25.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007494)  
Ano po ang target nito?

**[08:38:26.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007495)  
Very general po nakalagay.

**[08:38:29.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007496)  
So, 20% across all components po ba ito?

**[08:38:33.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007497)  
Ang pinakamalaki, kula, colleague, ay ang security, socio-economic, and my partner na security.

**[08:38:42.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007498)  
Security.

**[08:38:44.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007499)  
So, nasa socio-economic and security component of the normalization.

**[08:38:50.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007500)  
Mr. Sponsor, pwede po bang may we request from the OPA-PRO to...

**[08:38:56.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007501)  
Ano pa yung transitional justice?

**[08:39:01.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007502)  
So, part din yung transitional justice.

**[08:39:02.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007503)  
Mr. Sponsor, to save time, kasi hindi po malinaw yung sagot ng OPA-PRO as to the major components of the normalization track.

**[08:39:15.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007504)  
So, makikihingi na lang po ng data, ang kinatawang ito, yung breakdown.

**[08:39:21.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007505)  
How much is allocated for security, for transitional justice, reconciliation?

**[08:39:26.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007506)  
Kasi doon po sa performance indicators ng OPA-PRO, malabo eh. General as 20%.

**[08:39:32.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007507)  
And in line po sa binanggit nyo kanina, Mr. Sponsor, binanggit nyo yung doon sa decommissioning of MILF combatants.

**[08:39:41.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007508)  
That is true, no? Nasa fourth and final phase, ang decommissioning involving 14,000 combatants and around 2,450 weapons.

**[08:39:51.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007509)  
But the latest update to this, and the OPA-PRO would like to clarify,

**[08:39:56.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007510)  
clarify this matter, itinigil ito eh. Tama po ba? Itinigil itong fourth phase, Mr. Sponsor?

**[08:40:03.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007511)  
Actually, 26,145 existing and there is a balance of 14,000. Makes it 40,000.

**[08:40:12.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007512)  
Tama, Mr. Sponsor. Nakapag-decommission na ng 26,000.

**[08:40:16.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007513)  
Yes. 26,145.

**[08:40:20.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007514)  
Yes. May remaining pa na 14,000.

**[08:40:23.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007515)  
Yes.

**[08:40:23.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007516)  
Ngayon, kaya po natigil itong decommissioning.

**[08:40:26.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007517)  
Kaya po natigil itong decommissioning of 14,000 MILF combatants kasi may pronouncement ang MILF.

**[08:40:34.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007518)  
In fact, this has been issued by the Central Committee of MILF.

**[08:40:38.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007519)  
In fact, last budget deliberation, Mr. Sponsor, tinigil ito mismo ng MILF dahil hindi nila nakikitaan ng kaseryosuhan

**[08:40:50.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007520)  
yung Government of the Republic of the Philippines in finishing or delivering other components

**[08:40:56.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007521)  
of the normalization track.

**[08:40:58.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007522)  
The question to the OPA-PRO is, what is the current status?

**[08:41:03.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007523)  
Kasi, Mr. Sponsor, nung nakaraang budget deliberation, the MILF has already declared they are losing trust in the peace process

**[08:41:13.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007524)  
because of the predecessor of the good secretary.

**[08:41:16.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007525)  
In fact, they have said in many, in many, in numerous news clippings that the predecessor of the good secretary is a saboteur of peace.

**[08:41:26.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007526)  
That is why, it is in their position, being the party to the peace negotiation, to stop the decommissioning of 14,000 combatants.

**[08:41:38.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007527)  
The question is, Mr. Sponsor, ano na po yung status ng pag-uusap?

**[08:41:44.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007528)  
Kasi kailangan uli ma-build yung confidence eh na makipag-usap yung other party doon sa table.

**[08:41:52.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007529)  
And sadly, Mr. Sponsor, and to the good secretary,

**[08:41:56.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007530)  
sadly, the predecessor of the current secretary has not addressed these grave issues and concerns

**[08:42:05.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007531)  
as raised by the Moro Islamic Liberation Front.

**[08:42:08.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007532)  
So, what is the status of this decommissioning, the fourth and final phase of decommissioning?

**[08:42:16.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007533)  
Yes, distinguished colleague, the GPH is targeting to commence phase four decommissioning in 2028.

**[08:42:26.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007534)  
However,

**[08:42:26.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007535)  
the decommissioning is a joint GPH-MILF undertaking and is for further discussion and agreement between the GPH-MILF implementing panels.

**[08:42:40.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007536)  
So, may 2028 po, no?

**[08:42:42.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007537)  
2028, tama po ba, Mr. Sponsor?

**[08:42:45.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007538)  
From September 25, no?

**[08:42:48.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007539)  
There will be a KL meeting to consider resumption of the decommissioning.

**[08:42:56.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007540)  
So, may, it, that's the OPAP rule confirmed through the sponsor na meron ng positive development on the matter?

**[08:43:07.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007541)  
One of the things to be discussed in Kuala Lumpur is the date for the decommissioning.

**[08:43:26.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007542)  
So, also, for the information of our distinguished colleague, the OPAP head by our secretary,

**[08:43:36.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007543)  
as chair of the panel of the government, headed by our secretary, Mel Sarmento,

**[08:43:44.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007544)  
had a very good, productive meeting with Chairman Murad in Darapanan.

**[08:43:51.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007545)  
That is a very welcome development, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:43:55.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007546)  
Hearing that.

**[08:43:56.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007547)  
There is already a positive development regarding the peace negotiation between the GRP and the MILF.

**[08:44:04.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007548)  
Actually, ito po yung inaantay natin na sagot dahil hindi po ito in-address ng predecessor ng butihing sekretary ngayon.

**[08:44:13.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007549)  
And in fact, if I can remember correctly, the predecessor of the good secretary has requested for an executive session.

**[08:44:22.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007550)  
And yet, wala pong nangyari doon sa executive session.

**[08:44:25.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007551)  
So, maganda pong balita na binabalita po ng OPAPRU na merong productive meeting between GRP and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front through its chair, Chair Alhaj Murad.

**[08:44:38.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007552)  
Makikihingi na lang po ng datos sa OPAPRU through the sponsor regarding po dito sa timetable sa pagkumpleto ng normalization and reaching the exit agreement,

**[08:44:52.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007553)  
if that document is available.

**[08:44:55.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007554)  
Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:44:57.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007555)  
Yes, there is.

**[08:44:59.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007556)  
Distinguished colleague.

**[08:45:01.260] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007557)  
By the way,

**[08:45:02.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007558)  
OPA-PRO is also chair of the government panel.

**[08:45:08.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007559)  
Yes, yes, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:45:09.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007560)  
There are two positions of our good Secretary Sarmiento.

**[08:45:15.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007561)  
Thank you, thank you, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:45:18.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007562)  
Now, yung mga hinihingi na lang po na dokumento, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:45:22.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007563)  
Yes, rest assured, that was...

**[08:45:25.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007564)  
Moving on, dito po sa...

**[08:45:29.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007565)  
Well, last year, naging malaking issue ko po ito sa OPA-PRO

**[08:45:32.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007566)  
and it wasn't really answered by the previous Secretary.

**[08:45:37.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007567)  
In the PDP 2024 Midterm Update,

**[08:45:41.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007568)  
the progress report, take note, this was the progress report.

**[08:45:44.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007569)  
One of the performance indicators

**[08:45:47.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007570)  
is to complete the implementation of all signed agreements.

**[08:45:53.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007571)  
Take note, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:45:55.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007572)  
That in 2024 Midterm Update of OPA-PRO,

**[08:45:59.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007573)  
it was indicated here, green check,

**[08:46:02.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007574)  
meaning it is already fully implemented and institutionalized.

**[08:46:08.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007575)  
So, kiniklaim ng OPA-PRO in 2024,

**[08:46:12.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007576)  
sabi nila, fully implemented and completed na itong part na to.

**[08:46:16.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007577)  
Now, Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

**[08:46:20.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007578)  
in the 2025 PDP Midterm Update,

**[08:46:23.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007579)  
what was considered,

**[08:46:25.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007580)  
as fully implemented in 2024 PDP,

**[08:46:28.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007581)  
ngayon, naging dilaw na.

**[08:46:31.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007582)  
Ibig sabihin,

**[08:46:33.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007583)  
partially implemented and institutionalized.

**[08:46:36.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007584)  
So, ang tanong dito, Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:46:39.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007585)  
bakit yung progress report ng OPA-PRO paatras?

**[08:46:45.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007586)  
Yes, there was a mistake.

**[08:46:50.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007587)  
It's admitted

**[08:46:51.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007588)  
that there was a mistake

**[08:46:53.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007589)  
in the...

**[08:46:55.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007590)  
Color.

**[08:46:56.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007591)  
Color.

**[08:46:57.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007592)  
Instead of yellow,

**[08:46:59.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007593)  
the face here, it's a...

**[08:47:01.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007594)  
Previous.

**[08:47:06.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007595)  
Previous.

**[08:47:07.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007596)  
So, it was a mistake po, Mr. Sponsor, no?

**[08:47:09.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007597)  
Sabi po ng OPA-PRO.

**[08:47:10.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007598)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:47:12.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007599)  
I am really sorry, Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:47:14.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007600)  
pero iba po kasi yung sagot ng OPA-PRO last budget season eh.

**[08:47:19.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007601)  
Sabi po ng OPA-PRO last budget season,

**[08:47:22.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007602)  
hindi naman yan, hindi naman yan yung actual report.

**[08:47:24.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007603)  
Hindi naman yan, hindi naman yan yung actual report.

**[08:47:25.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007604)  
Ang target namin

**[08:47:26.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007605)  
was simply a target

**[08:47:28.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007606)  
and to which I responded.

**[08:47:29.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007607)  
How can it be a target

**[08:47:31.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007608)  
when it is very clear

**[08:47:32.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007609)  
in the PDP midterm report

**[08:47:34.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007610)  
it is actual progress report.

**[08:47:36.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007611)  
So hindi po mag-wo-work

**[08:47:38.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007612)  
yung ganong binabanggit ng OPA-PRO.

**[08:47:42.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007613)  
It is not simply a target,

**[08:47:43.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007614)  
it is actually,

**[08:47:46.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007615)  
kung iida-digest natin

**[08:47:48.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007616)  
dito sa PDP report, progress report

**[08:47:50.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007617)  
regression siya.

**[08:47:52.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007618)  
So, which is which?

**[08:47:54.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007619)  
Honorable Distinguished Colleague, ang naging totoo nito ay yung process. Institutionalize siya before the parties agreed. That's why institutionalize.

**[08:48:13.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007620)  
In the PDP midterm update, what is the context of completed all the implementation of peace signed agreement?

**[08:48:26.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007621)  
It doesn't present that the implementation of all signed peace agreements have already been completed.

**[08:48:35.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007622)  
But referring to the status progress of the strategy complete,

**[08:48:41.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007623)  
the implementation of all signed peace agreement has fully institutionalized, not fully implemented.

**[08:48:53.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007624)  
Fully institutionalized completion of the implementation of the signed peace agreement

**[08:48:59.420] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007625)  
means significant milestone or substantial progress have been achieved under the signed peace agreement

**[08:49:08.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007626)  
such as passage.

**[08:49:11.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007627)  
Of the Bangsa Organic Law under the comprehensive agreement on the Bangsa Moro

**[08:49:17.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007628)  
as just recently the successful conduct and completion of the first BARM elections.

**[08:49:25.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007629)  
Yes, Mr. Sponsor. Just to save time po.

**[08:49:31.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007630)  
Hindi ko po maunawaan yung justification.

**[08:49:35.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007631)  
Naintindihan ko kung ito yung inabutan ng butihing sekretary, Mel Sarmiento.

**[08:49:39.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007632)  
Pero the...

**[08:49:41.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007633)  
The justification being presented now by OPA Pro through the Sponsor

**[08:49:46.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007634)  
is not really acceptable because nagsisemantics po tayo eh.

**[08:49:51.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007635)  
The green bullet in the legend specifically say,

**[08:49:57.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007636)  
fully implemented slash institutionalized.

**[08:50:02.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007637)  
So, Mr. Sponsor, hindi po ito either or, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:50:06.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007638)  
So, hindi ko maintindihan, Mr. Sponsor, if the predecessor,

**[08:50:11.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007639)  
of the good sekretary, is really not telling the truth?

**[08:50:21.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007640)  
Nakalagay dito,

**[08:50:24.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007640-split-2)  
yes po.

**[08:50:25.520] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007641)  
Partially implemented slash institutionalized.

**[08:50:29.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007642)  
Yan yung yellow.

**[08:50:30.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007642-split-2)  
Tama po.

**[08:50:31.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007643)  
Yeah, yeah. Yellow.

**[08:50:53.860] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007644)  
Yes.

**[08:51:10.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007673)  
If I'm correct, I heard my colleague saying that ito yung inabutan ng sekretary. That's why hindi siya maka-respond doon sa mangyari.

**[08:51:24.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007674)  
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sponsor, and to the good sekretary. At least nagkaroon na po tayo ng kalinawan. Ang gusto ko lang po kasi i-correct, mahirap po na nagbabago-bago tayo ng report on PDP.

**[08:51:37.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007675)  
And it is a good development po na may ganong admission po from the good sekretary.

**[08:51:43.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007676)  
I'm moving on po, Mr. Sponsor. Dito naman po tayo sa PAMANA. Ang PAMANA po ay hindi lang simple yung General Development Fund.

**[08:51:54.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007677)  
It is intended for conflict-affected and conflict-vulnerable areas. So it operates within the framework of peace process.

**[08:52:07.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007678)  
Ngayon po, nangihingi ang OPAPRU ng 6.090 billion for PAMANA. For the interest of time po, can the OPAPRU through the sponsor describe papaano nag-ooperate yung nire-request na PAMANA dito po sa framework ng peace process?

**[08:52:30.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007679)  
Just to be very specific on this, at baka po makapagbigay ng example ang OPAPRU.

**[08:52:37.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007680)  
Ano bang magbigay? Random sampling na lang po tayo. Tatlong areas wherein merong PAMANA.

**[08:52:44.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007681)  
Saan ang region or area na may pinakamalaking allocation? Ano yung specific conflict driver? Bakit naglagay ng malaking pondo for PAMANA on that specific region?

**[08:52:56.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007682)  
Tapos ano yung existing or governing peace agreement? And then ano yung outcome na inaabot natin?

**[08:53:04.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007683)  
So kasi again, ang punto dito, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:53:07.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007684)  
Mr. Speaker, PAMANA is not just any general development fund. It is intended to address conflict vulnerabilities in many areas.

**[08:53:18.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007685)  
So pwede po bang pakidescribe ng OPAPRU papaano nag-ooperate yung PAMANA doon sa framework na binanggit ng representasyong ito?

**[08:53:27.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007686)  
Thank you, distinguished colleague. If I may read, the PAMANA program is anchored on the government strategy of winning the peace by 40%.

**[08:53:37.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007687)  
Thank you.

**[08:53:38.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007688)  
Partnership in promoting convergent delivery of goods and services and addressing regional development challenges in conflict affected and conflict vulnerable areas.

**[08:53:54.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007689)  
It builds both physical and social infrastructures for these areas at the regional, provincial, and barangay levels,

**[08:54:06.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007690)  
ensuring that the peace agreement is notyttied to all boundaries.

**[08:54:07.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007691)  
that they are not left behind.

**[08:54:09.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007692)  
The design and delivery

**[08:54:10.680] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007693)  
of PAMANA program

**[08:54:12.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007694)  
is conflict-sensitive

**[08:54:15.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007695)  
and peace-promoting,

**[08:54:18.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007696)  
thus distinguishing it

**[08:54:19.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007697)  
from other development

**[08:54:21.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007698)  
interventions of the

**[08:54:23.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007699)  
government.

**[08:54:25.660] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007700)  
If I may...

**[08:54:26.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007701)  
Yes, Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:54:28.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007702)  
If I may read the criteria and guidelines.

**[08:54:31.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007703)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:54:33.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007704)  
magbigay na lang po tayo ng halimbawa

**[08:54:35.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007705)  
kasi nga, latag na po

**[08:54:37.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007706)  
yung framework eh ng PAMANA.

**[08:54:39.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007707)  
Sige po.

**[08:54:40.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007708)  
Ito po, personal ko.

**[08:54:41.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007709)  
Hindi ko po sila tinung

**[08:54:42.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007710)  
dahil nakita ko ito eh.

**[08:54:44.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007711)  
Sa Caraga region,

**[08:54:46.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007712)  
ako eh,

**[08:54:49.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007713)  
if I may just give a little

**[08:54:51.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007714)  
background,

**[08:54:52.860] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007715)  
way back 15,

**[08:54:54.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007716)  
10 to 15 years ago,

**[08:54:56.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007717)  
in the whole of Mindanao,

**[08:54:58.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007718)  
it is in Caraga region

**[08:55:00.520] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007719)  
identified as

**[08:55:03.040] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007720)  
72.

**[08:55:03.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007721)  
Parang conflict

**[08:55:06.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007722)  
ng CPP-NPA.

**[08:55:09.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007723)  
72 baranggays.

**[08:55:12.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007724)  
And,

**[08:55:12.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007725)  
nagkaroon po ako ng part

**[08:55:14.860] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007726)  
at that time.

**[08:55:16.040] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007727)  
I was working then

**[08:55:17.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007728)  
as a presidential assistant

**[08:55:19.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007729)  
for Caraga region.

**[08:55:21.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007730)  
Almost the same po.

**[08:55:23.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007731)  
Ngayon po, may mga projects na sila

**[08:55:26.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007732)  
sa alam ko, sa Agusan del Norte.

**[08:55:30.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007733)  
Di lang makasigurado.

**[08:55:31.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007734)  
I just want to be sure.

**[08:55:33.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007735)  
Mayroon sa Agusan.

**[08:55:36.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007736)  
And, in fact,

**[08:55:37.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007737)  
just two months ago,

**[08:55:39.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007738)  
I went around 13 rural schools.

**[08:55:43.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007739)  
And, doon,

**[08:55:44.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007740)  
nahingian po ako ng water.

**[08:55:47.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007741)  
Very important

**[08:55:48.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007742)  
ang water supply.

**[08:55:50.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007743)  
That's why, siguro,

**[08:55:52.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007744)  
mag-a-apply din ako

**[08:55:55.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007745)  
para sa distrito ko.

**[08:55:57.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007746)  
So,

**[08:55:59.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007747)  
PAMANA supports the completion

**[08:56:03.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007748)  
of PAMANA.

**[08:56:03.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007749)  
Disagreements.

**[08:56:05.260] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007750)  
Example, infrastructure projects

**[08:56:07.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007751)  
in Cordillera,

**[08:56:09.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007752)  
projects,

**[08:56:11.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007753)  
facilitates

**[08:56:13.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007754)  
access to services

**[08:56:15.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007755)  
and enhances

**[08:56:18.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007756)  
connectivity.

**[08:56:22.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007757)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:56:24.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007758)  
pwede po bang makarequest

**[08:56:26.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007759)  
ang kinatawang ito

**[08:56:28.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007760)  
ng allocation

**[08:56:29.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007761)  
ng PAMANA na naka-disaggregate

**[08:56:31.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007762)  
per region?

**[08:56:33.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007763)  
And, what particular PAMANA projects

**[08:56:36.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007764)  
are being allocated?

**[08:56:37.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007765)  
Willing po ang office ng OPAPRO

**[08:56:39.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007766)  
na mag-submit ng

**[08:56:40.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007767)  
specific po yan.

**[08:56:44.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007768)  
Ang punto ko kasi dito,

**[08:56:47.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007769)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:56:49.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007770)  
dito po sa PAMANA,

**[08:56:50.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007771)  
hindi po ba ito

**[08:56:51.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007772)  
duplication?

**[08:56:53.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007773)  
Kasi, ang siste po,

**[08:56:54.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007774)  
ang PAMANA ay

**[08:56:56.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007775)  
pass-through sa OPAPRO.

**[08:56:58.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007776)  
Hindi po ba ito duplication?

**[08:57:00.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007777)  
Nalimbawa, may agricultural support

**[08:57:02.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007778)  
for farmers.

**[08:57:03.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007779)  
Meron ng DA.

**[08:57:05.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007780)  
Merong ROADS.

**[08:57:07.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007781)  
Actually, kalakhan po ng budget

**[08:57:08.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007782)  
doon sa PAMANA, nasa ROADS.

**[08:57:10.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007783)  
Meron naman DP

**[08:57:10.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007784)  
o meron po pwedeng ibang agencies.

**[08:57:14.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007785)  
So, ano po yung rason

**[08:57:16.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007786)  
kung bakit

**[08:57:16.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007787)  
nagpa-pass-through pa sa PAMANA

**[08:57:19.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007788)  
at nagdu-duplicate?

**[08:57:21.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007789)  
Say, for example,

**[08:57:22.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007790)  
if the issue is

**[08:57:24.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007791)  
to provide educational assistance

**[08:57:26.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007792)  
in conflict-vulnerable areas

**[08:57:29.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007793)  
or conflict areas,

**[08:57:30.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007794)  
we already have an agency

**[08:57:33.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007795)  
which can directly

**[08:57:34.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007796)  
address the problem.

**[08:57:37.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007797)  
So, instead of putting it

**[08:57:39.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007798)  
through PAMANA

**[08:57:40.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007799)  
and OPAPRO as a

**[08:57:43.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007800)  
pass-on agency,

**[08:57:45.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007801)  
why do we need

**[08:57:46.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007802)  
or what is the justification

**[08:57:47.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007803)  
for PAMANA?

**[08:57:50.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007804)  
Mr. Sponsor.

**[08:57:52.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007805)  
Distinguished

**[08:57:52.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007806)  
colleague,

**[08:57:55.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007807)  
hindi po wala pong

**[08:57:57.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007808)  
ano,

**[08:57:58.580] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007809)  
yung pag-ano,

**[08:58:00.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007810)  
yung pagpatong

**[08:58:01.160] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007811)  
or duplication nga.

**[08:58:03.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007812)  
From the endorsement,

**[08:58:05.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007813)  
there are areas,

**[08:58:07.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007814)  
well, almost all,

**[08:58:08.860] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007815)  
nagkakaroon ng MOA,

**[08:58:10.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007816)  
sometimes with the LGU.

**[08:58:13.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007817)  
Siyempre, yung LGU,

**[08:58:14.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007818)  
pag nakita na meron,

**[08:58:16.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007819)  
hindi na rin pwede.

**[08:58:18.680] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007820)  
And,

**[08:58:21.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007821)  
the validation of projects

**[08:58:23.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007822)  
by the PAMANA

**[08:58:25.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007823)  
and NPMO

**[08:58:27.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007824)  
ensure no duplication

**[08:58:28.960] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007825)  
in the targets,

**[08:58:30.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007826)  
specifically the projects

**[08:58:32.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007827)  
and project location indoors.

**[08:58:34.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007828)  
The OPAPRO

**[08:58:35.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007829)  
closely coordinates

**[08:58:37.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007830)  
with concerned agencies

**[08:58:39.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007831)  
and or offices

**[08:58:41.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007832)  
during site validation.

**[08:58:44.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007833)  
Also, one of the key considerations

**[08:58:46.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007834)  
in the enlistment of projects

**[08:58:48.680] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007835)  
include the uncertainty

**[08:58:51.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007836)  
that is no funding

**[08:58:53.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007837)  
from other offices

**[08:58:55.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007838)  
units.

**[08:58:57.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007839)  
Further safeguarding this,

**[08:58:59.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007840)  
the MOA requires

**[08:59:01.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007841)  
the attachment of the search,

**[08:59:02.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007842)  
identification from the partner,

**[08:59:04.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007843)  
LGU,

**[08:59:05.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007844)  
that the project

**[08:59:07.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007845)  
has not been funded

**[08:59:08.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007846)  
from any other source,

**[08:59:11.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007847)  
whether national,

**[08:59:13.640] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007848)  
local,

**[08:59:14.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007849)  
international,

**[08:59:15.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007850)  
or private.

**[08:59:16.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007851)  
Yung request ko na lang po,

**[08:59:18.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007852)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:59:19.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007853)  
na makahingi po kami ng breakdown

**[08:59:21.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007854)  
para makita lang po natin.

**[08:59:23.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007855)  
Kasi,

**[08:59:24.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007856)  
malaki yung component eh

**[08:59:25.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007857)  
for PAMANA.

**[08:59:26.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007858)  
Last question, Mr. Speaker,

**[08:59:28.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007859)  
with your indulgence,

**[08:59:29.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007860)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:59:30.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007861)  
and our sponsor.

**[08:59:30.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007862)  
That would be the last question

**[08:59:31.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007863)  
of the gentleman.

**[08:59:32.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007864)  
Kaya po pinag-uusapan natin

**[08:59:35.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007865)  
itong PAMANA.

**[08:59:36.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007866)  
Kasi, Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:59:38.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007867)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:59:40.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007868)  
napakalaki po ng

**[08:59:41.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007869)  
unliquidated funds

**[08:59:43.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007870)  
na nakita po ng

**[08:59:45.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007871)  
Commission on Audit

**[08:59:46.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007872)  
regarding this matter.

**[08:59:49.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007873)  
Say, for example,

**[08:59:50.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007874)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[08:59:51.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007875)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:59:52.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007876)  
in 2026,

**[08:59:53.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007877)  
this year alone,

**[08:59:55.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007878)  
second quarter,

**[08:59:57.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007879)  
1.26 billion

**[08:59:59.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007880)  
ang unliquidated for PAMANA.

**[09:00:02.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007901)  
In 2025 year-end,

**[09:00:05.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007902)  
3.93 billion unliquidated.

**[09:00:08.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007903)  
Ito po yung naabutan na lang siguro

**[09:00:09.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007904)  
ni Good Secretary Mel Sarmiento.

**[09:00:13.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007905)  
And then,

**[09:00:13.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007906)  
the total unliquidated PAMANA transfers

**[09:00:17.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007907)  
per COA audit findings

**[09:00:20.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007908)  
is 9.936 billion pesos.

**[09:00:25.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007909)  
Ang lalaki po ng mga unliquidated

**[09:00:27.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007910)  
PAMANA transfers.

**[09:00:30.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007911)  
And then,

**[09:00:32.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007912)  
and then,

**[09:00:32.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007913)  
Mr. Sponsor, Mr. Speaker,

**[09:00:36.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007914)  
here we are,

**[09:00:37.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007915)  
deliberating the,

**[09:00:39.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007916)  
another request of OPA-PRO,

**[09:00:42.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007917)  
requesting 6.090 billion

**[09:00:45.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007918)  
despite these repeated flags

**[09:00:49.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007919)  
by the Commission on Audit.

**[09:00:53.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007920)  
Yun po yung gusto nating malaman,

**[09:00:55.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007921)  
ano po yung mga pamamaraan

**[09:00:57.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007922)  
na ginagawa na ngayon ng OPA-PRO

**[09:00:59.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007923)  
to reconcile these audit findings

**[09:01:02.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007924)  
by the billions of pesos in amount.

**[09:01:05.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007925)  
And now,

**[09:01:07.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007926)  
we are discussing the budget

**[09:01:09.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007927)  
for OPA-PRO for fiscal year 2027.

**[09:01:11.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007928)  
Another request,

**[09:01:14.780] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007929)  
6 billion for that matter

**[09:01:16.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007930)  
is being made

**[09:01:17.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007931)  
despite these staggering

**[09:01:19.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007932)  
unliquidated fund transfers.

**[09:01:22.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007933)  
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor.

**[09:01:25.040] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007934)  
Yes.

**[09:01:27.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007935)  
The 2017

**[09:01:29.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007936)  
PAMANA projects,

**[09:01:31.420] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007937)  
which refers to the

**[09:01:33.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007938)  
fund transfer made to various

**[09:01:35.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007939)  
implementing agencies

**[09:01:37.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007940)  
for the implementation of

**[09:01:39.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007941)  
PAMANA programs for

**[09:01:41.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007942)  
calendar year 2017,

**[09:01:43.660] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007943)  
totaling to

**[09:01:44.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007944)  
6 billion,

**[09:01:48.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007945)  
185 million,

**[09:01:51.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007946)  
513.

**[09:01:53.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007947)  
As of July 2024,

**[09:01:55.680] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007948)  
the record shows

**[09:01:57.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007949)  
3 billion,

**[09:01:59.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007950)  
698, 635,

**[09:02:02.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007951)  
631

**[09:02:03.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007952)  
were already liquidated

**[09:02:05.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007953)  
and refunded

**[09:02:07.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007954)  
respectively and the

**[09:02:09.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007955)  
corresponding liquidation reports

**[09:02:11.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007956)  
were submitted to the

**[09:02:13.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007957)  
Office of the Commission on Audit.

**[09:02:16.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007958)  
The PAMANA

**[09:02:16.860] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007959)  
The PAMANA

**[09:02:18.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007960)  
The PAMANA program reactivated

**[09:02:23.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007961)  
the citizen-led

**[09:02:25.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007962)  
monitoring to further

**[09:02:27.260] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007963)  
enhance and exercise

**[09:02:28.660] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007964)  
the operationalization

**[09:02:31.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007965)  
of transparency

**[09:02:33.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007966)  
and accountability

**[09:02:35.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007967)  
mechanism.

**[09:02:38.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007968)  
Distinguished colleague,

**[09:02:42.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007969)  
again,

**[09:02:43.520] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007970)  
the Secretary

**[09:02:44.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007971)  
does not

**[09:02:46.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007972)  
does not approve

**[09:02:51.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007973)  
those

**[09:02:53.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007974)  
questionable

**[09:02:55.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007975)  
projects.

**[09:02:57.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007976)  
Again,

**[09:02:58.660] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007977)  
we just

**[09:02:59.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007978)  
joined the OPA

**[09:03:02.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007979)  
Pro just recently

**[09:03:03.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007980)  
and

**[09:03:06.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007981)  
the Secretary

**[09:03:09.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007982)  
has extended

**[09:03:10.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007983)  
to the members of this

**[09:03:13.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007984)  
chamber to

**[09:03:15.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007985)  
visit projects

**[09:03:17.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007986)  
and programs real-time

**[09:03:18.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007987)  
or geotag

**[09:03:20.660] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007988)  
real-time

**[09:03:23.260] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007989)  
geotag

**[09:03:24.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007990)  
in one system.

**[09:03:26.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007991)  
Thank you for the

**[09:03:28.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-007992)  
assurance.

**[09:03:29.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007993)  
You get to see everything,

**[09:03:30.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007994)  
all the projects.

**[09:03:30.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007995)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[09:03:32.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007996)  
Thank you for that assurance,

**[09:03:33.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007997)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[09:03:34.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007998)  
and it is really refreshing

**[09:03:35.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-007999)  
to hear that

**[09:03:36.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008000)  
coming from the Secretary

**[09:03:38.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008001)  
or the Presidential Advisor

**[09:03:40.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008002)  
on Peace,

**[09:03:41.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008003)  
Reconciliation,

**[09:03:42.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008004)  
and Unity.

**[09:03:43.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008005)  
Ito po yung mga

**[09:03:44.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008006)  
kasagutan

**[09:03:46.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008007)  
na dapat po nating

**[09:03:48.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008008)  
naririnig

**[09:03:49.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008009)  
mula po sa kalihim

**[09:03:51.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008010)  
na nangangasiwa

**[09:03:52.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008011)  
para masaraduhan

**[09:03:54.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008012)  
ang mga usaping

**[09:03:56.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008013)  
pangkapayapaan.

**[09:03:57.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008014)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[09:03:58.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008015)  
hindi po kasi po pwede

**[09:04:00.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008016)  
na perpetually na lang

**[09:04:01.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008017)  
nakabukas

**[09:04:02.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008018)  
lahat

**[09:04:03.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008019)  
ng mga usaping

**[09:04:04.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008020)  
pangkapayapaan.

**[09:04:06.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008021)  
Kailangan na

**[09:04:07.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008022)  
pakalinaw po

**[09:04:08.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008023)  
ng ating timeline

**[09:04:09.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008024)  
sa kung kailan

**[09:04:11.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008025)  
natin tatapusin

**[09:04:12.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008026)  
o awakasan

**[09:04:13.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008027)  
itong mga

**[09:04:14.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008028)  
peace tables.

**[09:04:16.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008029)  
Dahil ang kahulugan

**[09:04:17.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008030)  
nito, Mr. Speaker,

**[09:04:17.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008031)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[09:04:18.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008032)  
if we are able

**[09:04:20.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008033)  
to close

**[09:04:22.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008034)  
finally

**[09:04:22.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008035)  
and end

**[09:04:23.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008036)  
all these peace tables,

**[09:04:25.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008037)  
ibig sabihin din po yan

**[09:04:26.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008038)  
matagumpay tayo

**[09:04:28.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008039)  
na nakapagsarado

**[09:04:29.980] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008040)  
ng madilim,

**[09:04:31.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008041)  
masalimuot,

**[09:04:32.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008042)  
na bahagi ng kasaysayan

**[09:04:34.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008043)  
sa iba't ibang lugar

**[09:04:35.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008044)  
kung saan merong

**[09:04:37.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008045)  
karahasan.

**[09:04:38.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008046)  
And with the assurance

**[09:04:39.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008047)  
of the good secretary

**[09:04:41.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008048)  
through the sponsor,

**[09:04:43.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008049)  
this representation

**[09:04:44.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008050)  
is more than willing

**[09:04:45.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008051)  
and open

**[09:04:46.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008052)  
to have a dialogue

**[09:04:48.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008053)  
and conversation

**[09:04:49.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008054)  
with the OPAPRU

**[09:04:51.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008055)  
so as to check

**[09:04:52.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008056)  
and see

**[09:04:52.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008057)  
where we can collaborate

**[09:04:54.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008058)  
regarding the existing

**[09:04:56.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008059)  
peace tables

**[09:04:57.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008060)  
in the OPAPRU.

**[09:04:58.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008061)  
Yan lang po.

**[09:04:59.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008062)  
Maraming salamat.

**[09:05:00.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008063)  
Thank you very much,

**[09:05:01.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008064)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:05:02.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008065)  
Thank you,

**[09:05:03.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008066)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[09:05:04.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008067)  
Again,

**[09:05:05.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008068)  
the Secretary,

**[09:05:06.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-008069)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[09:05:07.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008070)  
the CPLA,

**[09:05:08.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008071)  
last September 1,

**[09:05:09.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008072)  
signed a

**[09:05:10.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008073)  
fulfillment agreement

**[09:05:11.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008074)  
already

**[09:05:12.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008075)  
with the

**[09:05:13.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008076)  
good Secretary.

**[09:05:19.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008077)  
Thank you,

**[09:05:20.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008078)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:05:21.560] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008079)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[09:05:23.840] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008080)  
to continue

**[09:05:24.520] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008081)  
with the

**[09:05:24.840] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008082)  
interpellation

**[09:05:26.000] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008083)  
of the proposed

**[09:05:26.680] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008084)  
budget,

**[09:05:28.480] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008091)  
I move that

**[09:05:29.480] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008092)  
we recognize

**[09:05:30.480] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008093)  
Representative Dada Kiram

**[09:05:32.480] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008094)  
Ismula

**[09:05:33.480] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008095)  
of the

**[09:05:34.480] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-008096)  
Akbayan Party List.

**[09:05:35.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008097)  
The gentle lady

**[09:05:36.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008098)  
from Akbayan,

**[09:05:37.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008099)  
Representative Dada Kiram

**[09:05:38.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008100)  
Ismula

**[09:05:39.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008101)  
is recognized

**[09:05:40.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008102)  
to interpellate

**[09:05:41.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008103)  
the sponsor.

**[09:05:44.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008104)  
Assalamu alaikum

**[09:05:45.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008105)  
wa rahmatullahi

**[09:05:46.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008106)  
wa barakatuhu.

**[09:05:49.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008107)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[09:05:50.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008108)  
Mr. Sponsor,

**[09:05:51.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008109)  
noong

**[09:05:52.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008110)  
September 14

**[09:05:54.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008111)  
ay ginanap po

**[09:05:55.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008112)  
ang kauna-unahang

**[09:05:56.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008113)  
BARM

**[09:05:57.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008114)  
parliamentary

**[09:05:58.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008115)  
election.

**[09:05:59.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008116)  
Masaya po tayo

**[09:06:00.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008117)  
na sa wakas

**[09:06:01.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008118)  
ay nakikita na

**[09:06:02.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008119)  
natin

**[09:06:03.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008120)  
ang mga bunga

**[09:06:04.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008121)  
ng peace

**[09:06:05.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008122)  
process.

**[09:06:06.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008123)  
Ngunit,

**[09:06:07.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008124)  
may ilang

**[09:06:08.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008125)  
mahahalagang

**[09:06:09.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008126)  
katanungan

**[09:06:10.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008127)  
lamang po tayong

**[09:06:11.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008128)  
nais

**[09:06:12.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008129)  
linawin

**[09:06:13.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008130)  
sa OPAPRO

**[09:06:14.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008131)  
bilang pangunahing

**[09:06:15.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008132)  
opisina

**[09:06:16.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008133)  
na

**[09:06:17.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008134)  
nagmamanage

**[09:06:18.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008135)  
at supervise

**[09:06:19.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008136)  
ng comprehensive

**[09:06:20.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008137)  
peace

**[09:06:21.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008138)  
process.

**[09:06:22.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008139)  
Ang una

**[09:06:23.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008140)  
ko pong magiging

**[09:06:24.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008141)  
katanungan

**[09:06:25.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008142)  
ay patungkol po

**[09:06:26.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008143)  
sa PAMANA

**[09:06:27.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008144)  
program.

**[09:06:28.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008145)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[09:06:30.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008146)  
Distinguished

**[09:06:31.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008147)  
Sponsor,

**[09:06:32.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008148)  
sa ilalim po

**[09:06:33.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008149)  
ng 2027

**[09:06:34.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008150)  
NEP,

**[09:06:35.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008151)  
meron pong

**[09:06:36.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008152)  
6.90

**[09:06:37.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008153)  
bilyon

**[09:06:38.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008154)  
pesos

**[09:06:39.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008155)  
allocated

**[09:06:40.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008156)  
para sa

**[09:06:41.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008157)  
PAMANA program

**[09:06:42.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008158)  
kung saan

**[09:06:43.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008159)  
OPAPRO

**[09:06:44.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008160)  
ang mag-i-implement

**[09:06:45.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008161)  
ng mga

**[09:06:46.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008162)  
projects

**[09:06:47.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008163)  
sa conflict

**[09:06:48.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008164)  
affected

**[09:06:49.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008165)  
at conflict

**[09:06:50.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008166)  
vulnerable

**[09:06:51.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008167)  
areas.

**[09:06:52.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008168)  
Magkano

**[09:06:53.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008169)  
sa 6.90

**[09:06:54.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008170)  
bilyon

**[09:06:55.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008171)  
pesos

**[09:06:56.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008172)  
na ito

**[09:06:57.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008173)  
ang mapupunta

**[09:06:58.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008174)  
sa normalization

**[09:06:59.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008175)  
implementation?

**[09:07:01.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008176)  
Ibig sabihin

**[09:07:02.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008177)  
po,

**[09:07:03.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008178)  
magkano

**[09:07:04.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008179)  
ang direktang

**[09:07:05.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008180)  
mapupunta

**[09:07:06.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008181)  
sa

**[09:07:07.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008182)  
proseso

**[09:07:08.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008183)  
ng pagtulong

**[09:07:09.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008184)  
sa mga

**[09:07:10.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008185)  
former

**[09:07:11.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008186)  
combatants

**[09:07:12.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008187)  
at mga

**[09:07:13.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008188)  
pamayanang

**[09:07:14.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008189)  
naapektuhan

**[09:07:15.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008190)  
ng armed

**[09:07:16.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008191)  
conflict upang

**[09:07:17.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008192)  
makabalik sa

**[09:07:18.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008193)  
mapayapa,

**[09:07:19.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008194)  
produktibo

**[09:07:20.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008195)  
at ligtas

**[09:07:21.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008196)  
na pamumuhay?

**[09:07:22.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008197)  
Yes,

**[09:07:23.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008198)  
thank you.

**[09:07:24.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008199)  
Thank you.

**[09:07:25.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008200)  
Mr.

**[09:07:26.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008201)  
Honor,

**[09:07:27.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008202)  
Distinguished

**[09:07:28.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008203)  
Chief,

**[09:07:29.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008204)  
ang mapupunta

**[09:07:30.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008205)  
po sa

**[09:07:31.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008206)  
BARM

**[09:07:32.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008207)  
ay 25

**[09:07:33.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008208)  
projects.

**[09:07:34.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008209)  
The amount,

**[09:07:35.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008210)  
allocated

**[09:07:36.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008211)  
amount

**[09:07:37.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008212)  
is

**[09:07:38.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008213)  
800,

**[09:07:39.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008214)  
868

**[09:07:40.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008215)  
million

**[09:07:41.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008216)  
440,000.

**[09:07:49.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008217)  
Ang

**[09:07:49.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008218)  
aking

**[09:07:50.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008219)  
pong

**[09:07:50.278] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008220)  
naging

**[09:07:50.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008221)  
katanungan

**[09:07:51.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008222)  
ay

**[09:07:52.558] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008223)  
magkano

**[09:07:53.078] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008224)  
po ang

**[09:07:53.598] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008225)  
mapupunta

**[09:07:54.398] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008226)  
para

**[09:07:54.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008227)  
sa

**[09:07:55.398] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008228)  
normalization

**[09:07:56.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008229)  
implementation.

**[09:07:58.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008230)  
Normalization

**[09:08:00.122] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008231)  
implementation.

**[09:08:15.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008234)  
Ito po,

**[09:08:16.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008235)  
Your Honor.

**[09:08:22.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008236)  
MILF

**[09:08:23.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008237)  
MILF, 23 projects, 563,000,000.

**[09:08:29.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008238)  
MNLF, 7...

**[09:08:34.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008239)  
Ang dalilang.

**[09:08:41.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008240)  
Sige po.

**[09:09:03.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008241)  
Sige po.

**[09:09:04.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008242)  
At to,

**[09:09:04.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008243)  
2.2 billion for normalization, including CAMPS, CAMPS Transformation Program.

**[09:09:15.780] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008244)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[09:09:17.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008245)  
Sa 2027 po.

**[09:09:19.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008246)  
2.2 billion.

**[09:09:21.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008247)  
Yeah, 2.2 billion.

**[09:09:23.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008248)  
Okay po.

**[09:09:24.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008249)  
Susunod pong katanungan, sa ilalim naman din po ng special provisions ng 2027 NEP,

**[09:09:32.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008250)  
ang OPA-PRO ay merong...

**[09:09:34.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008251)  
ang obligasyon na i-validate ang implementation ng PAMANA program by the DSWD, NCIP, at PhilHealth.

**[09:09:43.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008252)  
At ang kabuoang halaga na ini-implement ng mga ahensya na ito ay nasa 1.4 billion pesos.

**[09:09:52.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008253)  
Mr. Sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag kung ano ang pagkakaiba nito sa 6.9 billion

**[09:10:00.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008254)  
that will be directly implemented by the OPA-PRO?

**[09:10:03.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008255)  
Yung nabanggit niyo po na yung mga NCIP, PhilHealth, DSWD, PhilHealth, and NCIP,

**[09:10:24.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008256)  
diretso po ito sa agencies such as DSWD, PhilHealth, and NCIP.

**[09:10:29.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008257)  
Pero ang OPA-PRO po ay may obligasyon.

**[09:10:33.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008258)  
Na i-validate ito. Tama po ba?

**[09:10:46.720] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008259)  
Yes, binabalidate po ng OPA-PRO.

**[09:10:50.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008260)  
Oversight po ang OPA-PRO sa mga projects.

**[09:10:52.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008261)  
At kung aking babalikan po kanina, ibig sabihin na yung 1.4 billion ay directang mapupunta sa mga ahensyang nasabi

**[09:11:01.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008262)  
at ito'y nakaseparate doon sa 6.9 billion. Tama?

**[09:11:07.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008263)  
Yes, diretso po sa kanila.

**[09:11:08.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008264)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[09:11:10.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008265)  
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, mas malaki na ang ginagampanan role ng OPA-PRO sa pagpapatupad ng pamana program.

**[09:11:19.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008266)  
Paano masisiguro ng OPA-PRO na meron itong capacity para i-implement ito effectively

**[09:11:26.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008267)  
at ano ang 2027 targets ng OPA-PRO para sa pamana program?

**[09:11:31.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008268)  
Ang OPA-PRO ay hindi po nag-implement.

**[09:11:41.400] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008269)  
Nag-aano lang po ng download ng funds.

**[09:11:48.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008270)  
It's either the local government or maybe DPWH.

**[09:11:53.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008271)  
Ang agency po, hindi po ang OPA-PRO.

**[09:11:57.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008272)  
Oversight lang po ang OPA-PRO.

**[09:12:00.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008273)  
Opo.

**[09:12:01.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008274)  
Kanina sa katanungan ko sa 1.4 billion.

**[09:12:06.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008275)  
Itong pang-apat kong tanong po, paano po kaya masisiguro ng OPA-PRO na meron itong capacity para i-implement effectively

**[09:12:15.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008276)  
at ano ang 2027 targets ng OPA-PRO para sa pamana program?

**[09:12:27.520] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008277)  
We have specific nandito po.

**[09:12:31.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008278)  
Targets for every region.

**[09:12:34.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008279)  
Okay po.

**[09:12:38.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008280)  
For every region.

**[09:12:40.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008281)  
Sige po.

**[09:12:41.600] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008282)  
Sa kabuuan po.

**[09:12:42.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008283)  
For every region specific project.

**[09:12:45.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008284)  
Okay po.

**[09:12:46.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008285)  
Sa kabuuan po, nasa ilan po ang target ng OPA-PRO for 2027 for pamana alone?

**[09:12:55.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008286)  
For pamana.

**[09:12:56.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008287)  
Yes po.

**[09:13:00.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008288)  
6.9 billion.

**[09:13:01.920] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008289)  
6.9.

**[09:13:05.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008290)  
Yes.

**[09:13:05.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008291)  
6.9B yung budget.

**[09:13:08.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008292)  
Ang target po, ilan?

**[09:13:17.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008293)  
Ang target po, ito po.

**[09:13:19.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008294)  
Ang 152 projects.

**[09:13:25.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008295)  
152 projects.

**[09:13:28.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008296)  
May porsyento po ba tayong pinag-uusapan dito?

**[09:13:31.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008297)  
Ilang percent ng 6.90 billion yung target ng pamana para sa 2027?

**[09:14:00.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008298)  
Yes.

**[09:14:01.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008299)  
This thing is, ito po yung projected targets for 2027 covering both infrastructure and social protection components.

**[09:14:16.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008300)  
Diba?

**[09:14:16.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008301)  
Sa program, social infrastructure, may 4,948,000 target beneficiaries, 264.

**[09:14:31.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008302)  
LGUs ang unit.

**[09:14:35.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008303)  
And program management support, 52 million.

**[09:14:40.680] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008304)  
Social protection, 258 million students.

**[09:14:45.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008305)  
And educational assistance is 832 million 290.

**[09:14:54.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008306)  
Target beneficiaries, 16,150 student.

**[09:15:00.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008323)  
A total of 6,090,290,000.

**[09:15:07.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008324)  
Alright. Maraming salamat po.

**[09:15:09.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008325)  
Sa panghuli ko pong katanungan para sa pamana program, ano ang posisyon ng OPA-PRO sa kung sino dapat ang implementing agency ng pamana program?

**[09:15:21.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008326)  
Are they in favor na ibalik ang implementasyon nito sa mga line agencies?

**[09:15:26.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008327)  
More on sa LGU po, ang ano ng OPA-PRO.

**[09:15:36.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008328)  
LGU po ang parating kausap ng OPA-PRO.

**[09:15:39.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008329)  
Yes po, naintindihan ko po ito. Ngunit ang tanong ko po, ano po kaya ang posisyon ng OPA-PRO kung sino dapat ang implementing agency ng pamana program?

**[09:15:51.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008330)  
Sangayon po ba?

**[09:15:52.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008331)  
LGU.

**[09:15:53.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008332)  
LGU.

**[09:15:54.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008333)  
Sangayon po ba?

**[09:15:55.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008334)  
Ang best pa rin, LGU.

**[09:15:56.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008335)  
LGU, Your Honor.

**[09:15:58.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008336)  
Ibig sabihin hindi po kayo sumasangayon na ibalik ang implementasyon na ito sa mga line agencies, tama?

**[09:16:05.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008337)  
Hindi po.

**[09:16:06.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008338)  
Hindi po.

**[09:16:06.780] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008339)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[09:16:08.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008340)  
For accountability and transparency.

**[09:16:11.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008341)  
Alright. Maraming salamat po, Mr. Sponsor.

**[09:16:15.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008342)  
Ako naman po ay dadako ngayon sa budget para sa educational assistance program ng OPA-PRO, no?

**[09:16:23.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008343)  
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, can OPA-PRO confirm?

**[09:16:26.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008344)  
Na sa 2027-NEP, nagkaroon ng increase sa allocation for education at scholarship. Tama po ba?

**[09:16:39.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008345)  
Wala po.

**[09:16:41.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008346)  
Wala pong increase.

**[09:16:46.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008347)  
Para po sa education at scholarship program, ano ang utilization rate from 2023 to 2026?

**[09:16:55.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008348)  
2026.

**[09:16:56.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008349)  
Kahit detalye na lamang po ng utilization rate.

**[09:17:07.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008350)  
Actually, Your Honor, ang EF ay last year lang nabigay.

**[09:17:15.680] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008351)  
That's 850 million.

**[09:17:20.420] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008352)  
Only this year.

**[09:17:23.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008353)  
EF amana only this year.

**[09:17:25.720] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008354)  
850 million.

**[09:17:26.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008355)  
Ibig sabihin wala po noong 2023, 24, 25.

**[09:17:32.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008356)  
Wala po.

**[09:17:33.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008357)  
Magkano po ngayong taon?

**[09:17:35.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008358)  
850 million.

**[09:17:36.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008359)  
At nasa magkano na po ang kasalukuyang utilization?

**[09:17:47.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008360)  
Wala pa pong release.

**[09:17:49.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008361)  
Kaya aling sa OPA.

**[09:17:53.260] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008362)  
Zero.

**[09:17:54.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008363)  
Wala pa. Okay.

**[09:17:56.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008364)  
Ilan ba ang scholars natin for 2026 po?

**[09:18:00.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008365)  
At ilan po ang target beneficiaries natin for the next year, 2027?

**[09:18:09.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008366)  
Ah, 16,150. Pareho lang po ng 2027.

**[09:18:14.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008367)  
16,150.

**[09:18:16.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008368)  
50.

**[09:18:17.720] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008369)  
16,150.

**[09:18:19.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008370)  
Ito yung for 2026.

**[09:18:24.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008371)  
26 and 27.

**[09:18:26.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008372)  
Pareho lang po.

**[09:18:28.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008373)  
So pareho lamang po ang magiging target?

**[09:18:30.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008374)  
Yes.

**[09:18:32.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008375)  
Time lang.

**[09:18:34.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008376)  
May mga reports po tayong narireceive na hindi po natatanggap ng mga anak ng combatants ang kanilang educational grants on time.

**[09:18:45.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008377)  
Na siyang nagdudulot ng pagkaantala sa kanilang pag-aaral.

**[09:18:49.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008378)  
Distinguished sponsor, ano po kaya ang dahilan dito?

**[09:18:56.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008379)  
Ah, your honor, actually wala pang, ano, dahil wala pong narirelease.

**[09:19:05.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008380)  
O wala pong...

**[09:19:06.860] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008381)  
Kaugnay po ng nasabing niyo pong kanina, dahil wala pong nadadownload sa inyo ang DBM, wala pa talagang narirelease.

**[09:19:15.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008382)  
Wala po.

**[09:19:15.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008383)  
Okay po. Maraming salamat.

**[09:19:17.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008384)  
In relation sa pagkaantala ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants,

**[09:19:24.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008385)  
nakakuha ang aking opisina ng...

**[09:19:26.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008386)  
ng kopya ng terms and conditions ng educational assistance program for decommissioned combatants.

**[09:19:34.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008387)  
Sa ilalim nito, nakasaad na subject to availability of funds,

**[09:19:39.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008388)  
ang pag-receive ng educational grants, no?

**[09:19:42.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008389)  
Distinguished sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag ito?

**[09:19:46.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008390)  
At hindi ba ito may ituring na isang conditionality na maaaring magdulot

**[09:19:52.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008391)  
ng pagkaantala sa pagbibigay ng educational grants?

**[09:19:56.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008392)  
Pwede pong pakiulit yung...

**[09:20:02.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008393)  
Sige po.

**[09:20:04.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008394)  
Nasabi niyo po kasi kanina na dahil wala pa nga pong naibababa ang DBM sa inyo, no?

**[09:20:11.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008395)  
Pero may targets kayo and may budget, tama?

**[09:20:15.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008396)  
In relation sa pagkaantala ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants,

**[09:20:21.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008397)  
nakakuha ang aking opisina ng kopya ng terms and conditions...

**[09:20:22.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008398)  
Nakakuha ang aking opisina ng kopya ng terms and conditions ng pagbibigay ng educational assistance or grants,

**[09:20:26.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008399)  
sa ilalim nito, mayroon pong nakasaad na subject to availability of funds,

**[09:20:40.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008400)  
ang pagka-receive ng educational grants.

**[09:20:44.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008401)  
Distinguished sponsor, maaari bang ipaliwanag at hindi ba ito may ituturing na isang conditionality

**[09:20:54.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008402)  
na maaaring magdulot ng pagkaantala sa pagbibigay ng educational assistance?

**[09:21:10.780] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008403)  
Distinguished owner, yung funds po ay nasa DBM.

**[09:21:17.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008404)  
It's beyond OPA Pro.

**[09:21:20.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008405)  
Ang budget niyan.

**[09:21:21.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008406)  
So nagaantay lang po.

**[09:21:23.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008407)  
Although...

**[09:21:24.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008408)  
Ginagawa na rin pong mga hakbang ng OPA Pro sa MOA ng State Universities.

**[09:21:33.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008409)  
But OPA Pro is waiting for the DBM to release.

**[09:21:40.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008410)  
Ngunit, base nga po doon sa condition ng educational assistance na ito,

**[09:21:46.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008411)  
mayroon po kasing nakalagay na subject, subject for the availability of funds.

**[09:21:51.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008412)  
Ano yung ibig sabihin nun?

**[09:21:54.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008413)  
Hindi ba napondohan na ito, ngunit hindi lang nadadownload?

**[09:21:58.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008414)  
Yan.

**[09:21:59.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008415)  
And you are just waiting.

**[09:22:00.760] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008416)  
So ibig sabihin kung wala pong pondo mula sa DBM, wala rin pong mabibigay yung OPA Pro, tama po ba?

**[09:22:06.420] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008417)  
Hindi. Lahat naman po tayo, kahit tayo dito sa Congress, ay nakaano rin sa DBM.

**[09:22:13.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008418)  
Diba?

**[09:22:14.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008419)  
So we'd like to have...

**[09:22:18.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008420)  
Ang ano po eh, kung pwedeng matulungan ng Kongreso, tayo ho.

**[09:22:23.040] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008421)  
Baka matulungan natin ng OPA Pro na ma-release yung pondo na inaantay nila.

**[09:22:29.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008422)  
So, klaruhin ko lang po ha.

**[09:22:31.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008423)  
May budget, pero kailangan. Ang cash wala pa.

**[09:22:37.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008424)  
Yes. Ang ibig sabihin po ng subject to availability of funds ay nagdidepende sa DBM kung kailan niya i-release sa inyo ang pondo.

**[09:22:46.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008425)  
Yes.

**[09:22:46.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008426)  
Tama po. Maraming salamat po.

**[09:22:48.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008427)  
Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor.

**[09:22:51.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008428)  
Paano sisiguraduhin ng OPA?

**[09:22:53.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008429)  
OPA Pro na matatanggap ng mga scholars ang kanilang grants sa mga susunod?

**[09:23:00.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008430)  
Ano ang inyong mga mechanism sa pag-i-implement ng mga scholarship program or grants na ito?

**[09:23:06.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008431)  
Again, pingin sa kulig. Just like nung napag-usapan natin a while ago bago ng tanong, lahat ito depends sa pag-release ng pondo ng DBM.

**[09:23:21.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008432)  
Yes.

**[09:23:23.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008433)  
Yan po nito, no, Mr. Sponsor. Ang akin lamang po ay ang katanungan ko ay particular sa OPA Pro na ano po kaya ang mekanismo ng i-implement nila para hindi na po mangyari ang mga ganito sa susunod.

**[09:23:36.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008434)  
Ah, yung MOA po.

**[09:23:37.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008435)  
Alam ko na ang DBM po ang nag-re-release, ngunit on their part, ano pong ginagawa nila dito?

**[09:23:43.760] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008436)  
Nagkakaroon po ng tuloy-tuloy naman ang pakipag-communicate ng OPA Pro sa mga students.

**[09:23:53.040] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008437)  
Office of the President and sa mga estudyante, no?

**[09:23:58.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008438)  
Sige po.

**[09:23:59.980] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008439)  
Madam Speaker, ah, Mr. Speaker, ah, Mr. Sponsor, dadako naman po ako ngayon sa Transitional Justice and Reconciliation, yung roadmap po, no?

**[09:24:11.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008440)  
Ah, Distinguished Sponsor, noong August 6 to 7, nag-convene po ang GPH Implementing Panels at MILFTWG

**[09:24:21.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008441)  
on Transitional Justice and Reconciliation para i-resume ang discussion sa Transitional Justice and Reconciliation Roadmap.

**[09:24:32.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008442)  
Maari po bang i-enumerate ang mga jointly identified activities at priority deliverables na napagkasunduan?

**[09:24:40.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008443)  
Ah, updates on the transitional...

**[09:24:51.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008444)  
Transitional Justice, no?

**[09:24:53.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008445)  
Enhancements to file bills, no?

**[09:24:58.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008446)  
HR and Senate was submitted to the Joint Implementing Panel by the GPH-MILFT Technical Working Group.

**[09:25:10.360] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008447)  
Approval of the same is among the agenda in the Kuala Lumpur meeting.

**[09:25:17.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008448)  
Once approved by the Joint Panel, the document...

**[09:25:21.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008449)  
We'll submit same for the proposed workshop, right shop, ah, here in the H.O.R., in the Senate,

**[09:25:30.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008450)  
to harmonize proposed NTJRCE, National Transformation, National Transitional Justice Reconciliation.

**[09:25:51.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008451)  
Okay. Maraming salamat po.

**[09:25:58.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008452)  
Babalikan ko yung sinabi niyo pong enhancement to file bills in H.O.R. and Senate.

**[09:26:04.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008453)  
Alam niyo po, Mr. Sponsor, dito po sa H.O.R., kami pa lang po sa Akbayan Reform Block ang nag-file ng T.J.R., no?

**[09:26:13.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008454)  
Siguro po, kung plano din po ito ng, o papro, enhancement to file bills on H.O.R. and Senate,

**[09:26:21.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008455)  
sana po ay mas maipush ninyo pa po itong Kongreso, ang ating mga distinguished colleagues na mag-file or mag-co-author man lang po dito, no?

**[09:26:31.700] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008456)  
Kasi hindi po, sa ngayon po, hindi po kasi yun namin nakikita.

**[09:26:35.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008457)  
We filed our bill last year, noong July pa, pero hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin po ito gumagalaw.

**[09:26:42.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008458)  
We need the oppa pro to help us on this matter as well.

**[09:26:45.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008459)  
Huwag niyo pong isaalang-alang lang po dito sa Kongreso na kami lang ang gagalaw dito.

**[09:26:51.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008460)  
Kailangan din po namin ito kasi ito po yung continuing process ninyo po, no?

**[09:26:56.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008461)  
So, dadako naman po ako sa isa pang katanungan.

**[09:26:59.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008462)  
Sa mga na-identify na activities at priority deliverables ng oppa pro,

**[09:27:07.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008463)  
confirm if meron silang budget under the 2027 para rito.

**[09:27:12.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008464)  
Lahat po nung nabanggit nyo kanina.

**[09:27:21.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008465)  
For fiscal year 2027, 66 million has been allotted for the TGR aspect of the normalization program.

**[09:27:39.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008466)  
This includes 14 million for track 1 establishment of the NTJRCB and 51 million for track 2 support.

**[09:27:51.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008467)  
To the four TGR pillars.

**[09:27:56.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008468)  
This includes programs, interventions such as parcelary land inventory of the areas inside the six MIL camps,

**[09:28:08.540] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008469)  
engagements with both houses of Congress and key stakeholders for the passage of the NTJRCB bill

**[09:28:18.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008470)  
and other interventions.

**[09:28:21.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008471)  
In pursuit of the pillars on truth, history, justice, reparations, and guarantee.

**[09:28:31.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008472)  
To fully deliver the commitments under the GPH-MILF-TGR roadmap, a total of 100 million is required.

**[09:28:42.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008473)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[09:28:43.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008474)  
Sana po ay makareceive po tayo ng updates sa mga programs and activities na ito moving forward po, no?

**[09:28:51.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008475)  
Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, ano-ano ang mga milestone or targets ng OPA-PRO in relation sa TGR roadmap para sa 2027 po?

**[09:29:32.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008477)  
Distinguished colleague,

**[09:29:34.420] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008478)  
Ang approval of the NTJRCB.

**[09:29:39.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008479)  
Also, the good secretary will be meeting soon with the office of the speaker or the speaker himself

**[09:29:49.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008480)  
in regards to TGR projects.

**[09:29:51.560] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008484)  
the bills that needs to be

**[09:29:53.420] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008485)  
after

**[09:29:55.620] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008486)  
the meeting in Kuala Lumpur.

**[09:29:58.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008487)  
This is 25th.

**[09:30:00.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008488)  
Yes, maraming salamat po. At nabalitaan ko rin na ito'y naging priority bill na rin po dito sa Kongreso. Kaya konting push na lang po mula sa OPAPRU din po.

**[09:30:12.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008489)  
Anyway, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, bilang panghuling paksa na tatanungin ko po sa inyo, yung tungkol po sa Women, Peace and Security, isang katanungan na lamang po.

**[09:30:27.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008490)  
Distinguished Sponsor, can you confirm kung magkano ang budget for Women, Peace and Security programs ng OPAPRU at ano-ano po ang mga programang saklaw nitong budget?

**[09:30:42.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008491)  
12,195,000.

**[09:30:48.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008492)  
Ano-ano po yung mga saklaw ng budget na ito, program ng mga budget?

**[09:30:53.900] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008493)  
Ito po, capacity building for local.

**[09:30:57.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008494)  
And international partners, collaboration, partnership and resource mobilization, localization and mainstreaming, monitoring, evaluation, accountability and learning, and unit management and administrative services.

**[09:31:16.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008495)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[09:31:17.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008496)  
This representation believes that the Women, Peace and Security programs are important in ensuring meaningful representation, participation,

**[09:31:27.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008497)  
and leadership of women across all stages of the peace process and conflict transformation.

**[09:31:35.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008498)  
In closing, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, ang aming kritikal na pagsuporta ay may kasamang hamon.

**[09:31:43.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008499)  
Patunayan dapat ng OPAPRU na sa pamamagitan ng mabilis at tapat na serbisyo na bawat piso sa inyong budget ay tunay na napupunta sa kapakanan ng ating mga pamayanan

**[09:31:58.720] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008500)  
at mga decommissioned combatants at kanilang mga pamilya.

**[09:32:03.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008501)  
Sa ating mga kababayan, makakaasa kayong hindi kami titigil sa pagbabantay at pagtiyak na ang mga pangakong kapayapaan ay magbubungan ng totoong sekuridad at ginhawa sa inyong pangaraw-araw na buhay.

**[09:32:21.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-008502)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[09:32:21.980] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008503)  
Makakaasa po kayo, distinguished colleague.

**[09:32:25.600] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008504)  
Lalong-lalo na sa ating bagong...

**[09:32:27.720] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008505)  
kalihim sa OPA-PRO

**[09:32:29.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008506)  
at kalihim

**[09:32:30.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008507)  
Mel Sarmiento.

**[09:32:33.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008508)  
Thank you very much. Majority Leader.

**[09:32:36.260] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008509)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[09:32:37.400] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008510)  
next to interpellate the sponsor,

**[09:32:39.280] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008511)  
I move that we recognize the Honorable

**[09:32:41.360] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008512)  
Rene Luis Co. of Kabataan

**[09:32:43.700] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008513)  
Partylist.

**[09:32:45.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008514)  
Congresswoman Co. from Kabataan Partylist

**[09:32:47.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008515)  
is recognized.

**[09:32:49.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008516)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker,

**[09:32:52.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008517)  
at magandang gabi po

**[09:32:54.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008518)  
sa ating distinguished sponsor.

**[09:32:56.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008519)  
Magtatanong lang po tayo

**[09:32:58.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008520)  
sa isang

**[09:32:59.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008521)  
topic na napahapyawan

**[09:33:02.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008522)  
na po, Mr. Speaker,

**[09:33:04.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008523)  
ng kasama po

**[09:33:06.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008524)  
natin na nagtanong

**[09:33:08.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008525)  
tungkol sa kung paano

**[09:33:10.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008526)  
na gagasta

**[09:33:11.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008527)  
ang pera na

**[09:33:13.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008528)  
nakaalaan sa payapa

**[09:33:15.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008529)  
at masaganang pamayanan program

**[09:33:17.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008530)  
or ang pamana, but in particular

**[09:33:20.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008531)  
yung educational assistance.

**[09:33:22.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008532)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[09:33:23.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008533)  
mangingi lang po tayo ng dagdag

**[09:33:25.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008534)  
na impormasyon at

**[09:33:27.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008535)  
klerifikasyon dahil kita natin

**[09:33:30.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008536)  
na for this 2027

**[09:33:32.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008537)  
6.09

**[09:33:33.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008538)  
billion pesos ang nakalaan dito

**[09:33:35.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008539)  
3.76

**[09:33:37.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008540)  
billion o lampas kalahati

**[09:33:39.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008541)  
ng pamana ay para sa kalsada.

**[09:33:42.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008542)  
Susundan na po siya ng educational

**[09:33:43.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008543)  
assistance na 807 million,

**[09:33:46.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008544)  
community infrastructure na

**[09:33:47.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008545)  
377 million,

**[09:33:50.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008546)  
bridge na

**[09:33:51.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008547)  
375 million at social protection

**[09:33:53.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008548)  
na 258 million.

**[09:33:55.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008549)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[09:33:58.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008550)  
ang tanong natin,

**[09:33:59.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008551)  
hindi ba redundant o duplication ito

**[09:34:01.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008552)  
dahil may mga programa

**[09:34:03.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008553)  
ng ganito sa ibang mga ahensya

**[09:34:06.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008554)  
na may pangunahing mandato

**[09:34:07.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008555)  
sa pagbibigay ng servisyo?

**[09:34:18.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008556)  
Yes,

**[09:34:19.660] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008557)  
distinguished colleague,

**[09:34:22.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008558)  
hindi po, ano, dahil

**[09:34:23.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008559)  
lang, kainang

**[09:34:25.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008560)  
sabi natin kanina

**[09:34:27.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008561)  
ang

**[09:34:28.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008562)  
na-endorse po na target

**[09:34:31.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008563)  
areas

**[09:34:31.960] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008564)  
to validation of

**[09:34:35.780] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008565)  
projects, the pamana

**[09:34:37.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008566)  
and PMO ensure

**[09:34:39.240] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008567)  
no duplication

**[09:34:41.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008568)  
and the target specifically

**[09:34:43.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008569)  
the projects and the project

**[09:34:45.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008570)  
location endorse.

**[09:34:49.220] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008571)  
At saka,

**[09:34:49.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008572)  
ito po yung, if I may,

**[09:34:52.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008573)  
the parameters

**[09:34:55.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008574)  
within the, within peace and

**[09:34:58.460] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008575)  
development areas conflict affected,

**[09:35:01.080] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008576)  
conflict, vulnerable and geographically

**[09:35:04.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008577)  
isolated and disadvantaged areas

**[09:35:08.120] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008578)  
and their adjacent areas endorsed

**[09:35:11.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008579)  
by the peace tables through the

**[09:35:14.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008580)  
processes of their respective mechanisms.

**[09:35:17.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008581)  
Implementation ready for DBM policies,

**[09:35:21.260] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008582)  
guidelines arising from budget goals.

**[09:35:25.800] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008583)  
Eligible projects per pamana.

**[09:35:28.140] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008584)  
Pramanang manual of operations.

**[09:35:30.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008585)  
Table three, eligible

**[09:35:33.300] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008586)  
and knowledgeable interventions.

**[09:35:36.320] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008587)  
Eligible implementing partner

**[09:35:38.480] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008588)  
as guided by pamana manual

**[09:35:40.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008589)  
of operation M stable

**[09:35:42.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008590)  
five guide in determining

**[09:35:45.040] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008591)  
implementing partners.

**[09:35:47.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008592)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[09:35:49.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008593)  
na lang din po tayong ng kopya ng manual

**[09:35:51.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008594)  
At ng mga Sinambit po

**[09:35:53.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008595)  
Informasyon At kasama na rin po,

**[09:35:55.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008596)  
rin po yung mga ulat na gusto

**[09:35:57.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008597)  
natin at

**[09:35:59.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008598)  
na-mention

**[09:36:01.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008599)  
ng ating

**[09:36:03.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008600)  
distinguished sponsors sa

**[09:36:05.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008601)  
interpellation kanina ng

**[09:36:06.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008602)  
kasama natin dito sa minority.

**[09:36:09.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008603)  
Pero ang I share

**[09:36:11.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008604)  
the observation na

**[09:36:13.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008605)  
meron pong mga ahensya

**[09:36:15.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008606)  
na ang

**[09:36:17.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008607)  
primary mandate na nila ay ang

**[09:36:18.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008608)  
delivery ng services na

**[09:36:20.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008609)  
minimension. Bagamat may standards,

**[09:36:23.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008610)  
bagamat may sinasabing

**[09:36:24.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008611)  
paraan para

**[09:36:26.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008612)  
i-vet ang pananaw po ng

**[09:36:28.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008613)  
representasyon na ito ay

**[09:36:30.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008614)  
dapat i-direction na ang mga pondong ito

**[09:36:32.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008615)  
sa mga ahensya

**[09:36:34.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008616)  
na ang pinaka-primary

**[09:36:36.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008617)  
ang gawain ay yung

**[09:36:38.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008618)  
pagtawid ng mga servisyon na ito.

**[09:36:40.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008619)  
Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[09:36:42.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008620)  
narinig ko naman na din po

**[09:36:43.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008621)  
ang sagot sa nakaraang

**[09:36:46.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008622)  
interpellation. Pupunta na lang po

**[09:36:48.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008623)  
sa susunod kong tanong, Mr. Speaker,

**[09:36:50.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008624)  
good sponsor. Tungkol din po

**[09:36:52.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008625)  
ito sa educational assistance

**[09:36:54.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008626)  
na sa ilalim ng pamana inalaan

**[09:36:56.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008627)  
sa mga SUCs and LUCs.

**[09:36:58.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008628)  
Mula sa 2026, consistent

**[09:37:00.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008629)  
na 807,500,000

**[09:37:03.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008630)  
ng pondo para rito.

**[09:37:05.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008631)  
Parehong budget rin ang nakalaan

**[09:37:06.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008632)  
para sa 2027.

**[09:37:08.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008633)  
Ngayong 2026, saan

**[09:37:10.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008634)  
saan napunta itong 807,000,000

**[09:37:13.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008635)  
educational assistance?

**[09:37:14.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008636)  
Ilan ang mga beneficaryo nito?

**[09:37:17.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008637)  
At may ibang pamana

**[09:37:18.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008638)  
EAP beneficiaries pa ba?

**[09:37:20.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008639)  
Bukod sa former MILF and

**[09:37:22.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008640)  
MNLF combatants.

**[09:37:24.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008641)  
Sa

**[09:37:32.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008642)  
sa

**[09:37:32.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008643)  
sa

**[09:37:34.500] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008644)  
GPH MILF

**[09:37:36.060] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008645)  
peace process,

**[09:37:37.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008646)  
12,100.

**[09:37:39.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008647)  
Sa GPH MLF

**[09:37:42.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008648)  
peace process, again,

**[09:37:44.440] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008649)  
686.

**[09:37:45.940] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008650)  
A total of 16,150.

**[09:37:48.280] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008651)  
Hingi na lang din po kami

**[09:37:52.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008652)  
ng kopya ng report.

**[09:37:54.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008653)  
I-report na ito, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, na i-bibigay sa plenaryo at sa representasyong ito.

**[09:38:03.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008654)  
And para sa 2027, saan-saang lugar ang target nito?

**[09:38:07.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008655)  
Paano rin po ang disbursement nito sa beneficiaries?

**[09:38:10.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008656)  
Direkta ba nila itong natatanggap o sa SUCLUC na ito diretsyong napupunta?

**[09:38:16.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008657)  
Hindi ba isa rin ito sa maituturing na redundant na programa?

**[09:38:24.340] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008658)  
So, SUCs are, may MOA ang SUCs, and these are, ang SUCs ang nagbibigay sa mga students, no?

**[09:38:42.700] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008659)  
The amount, 25,000 per semester.

**[09:38:47.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008660)  
Maraming salamat po sa pagsagot at hingin na lang din po tayo ng ating,

**[09:38:52.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008661)  
ah, report tungkol sa anong SUCs ang nakakatanggap po nito.

**[09:38:58.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008662)  
Pero ang paghawak pa rin ng pagtingin ng representasyong ito ay nababahala tayo

**[09:39:05.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008663)  
dahil ang pamana program ng OPAPRU ay ginagamit para sa mga diumanoy rebel returnees.

**[09:39:11.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008664)  
May mga natanggap na din tayong reports na ginagamit ang pamana program

**[09:39:15.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008665)  
para sa fake surrenderies o peking pagpapasuko sa mga aktivista na pinapalabas na report.

**[09:39:22.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008666)  
So, ito ay mga rebelde.

**[09:39:23.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008667)  
Maaaring gamitin din ng 807 million educational assistants sa mga SUCs at LUCs

**[09:39:29.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008668)  
para hadlangan ang mga estudyante yung nagpapahayag ng kanilang kritisismo at aktivismo

**[09:39:34.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008669)  
at sabihin sila ay mga rebelde.

**[09:39:37.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008670)  
Nonetheless, Madam Speaker, Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[09:39:40.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008671)  
hingin na lang po tayo ng ating additional information para po ma-check, no,

**[09:39:44.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008672)  
kung kamusta po ang implementasyon ng programang ito.

**[09:39:47.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008673)  
Ang huling mga seri ng tanong ko, Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[09:39:51.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008674)  
ay tungkol naman.

**[09:39:52.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008675)  
At tungkol naman po sa pagiging chair ng OPAPRU

**[09:39:56.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008676)  
sa National Steering Committee on Women, Peace, and Security.

**[09:40:01.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008677)  
Kaugnay nito, naglunsad ang OPAPRU ng konsultasyon sa iba't ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas.

**[09:40:08.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008678)  
Maaari bang makahingi ng ulat mula sa mga nasabing konsultasyon?

**[09:40:22.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008679)  
At ito po ang mga accomplishments na nagawa sa WPSCOE.

**[09:40:44.100] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008680)  
Ang mga na-achieve so far, integration into the comprehensive peace process and localization.

**[09:40:52.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008681)  
WPS localization funds.

**[09:40:58.020] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008682)  
Women, peace, security localization funds accessed by 18 provinces.

**[09:41:05.820] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008683)  
Car provinces have draft local action plans with issued resolution to regal QUESTION,

**[09:41:15.180] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008684)  
RGADC Region 5 with technical working group on WPS communication,

**[09:41:22.380] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008685)  
RGA-DC, Region 11, with existing local action plan, City Government of Kawayan, Isabela, Valencia, Bukidnon, have draft resolution.

**[09:41:37.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008686)  
Nueva Vizcaya, Quirino, Nueva Ecija, have WPS integrated in their transformation program plan.

**[09:41:54.000] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008687)  
Agusan del Sur, launch IP Women WPS agenda.

**[09:42:07.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008688)  
Institutions, civil society organizations, both local and international, both sharing the WPS focal points network with Italy in 2026, coinciding the network's 10th year participation as part of the field deal in the 2026 Committee on the Status of Women in the UN.

**[09:42:37.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008689)  
Capacity Development for National and International Partners, mainstreaming on NAP WPS across the country through capacity development by stakeholders with whole of society's scope.

**[09:42:55.740] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008690)  
TAP, a resource speaker in international women's security trainings in Papua New Guinea, Hawaii.

**[09:43:07.200] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008691)  
Jamaica and Southeast Asia through the ASEAN IPR NAP Academy.

**[09:43:17.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008692)  
Maraming salamat. Pwede rin pong humingi na lang din po tayo, besides din po sa paglalatag ng mga naiabot ng konsultasyon, ay may mahabang ulat na maaari ding maibahagi. Kung maaari po, ay hihingi po tayo ng kopya ng report

**[09:43:38.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008693)  
ng consultations sa regions tungkol po sa Women, Peace, and Security na naisagawa ng OPAPRU. Maaari po bang [unclear] siya, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor? Tatanungin din po natin kung publicly available na po ba itong report na ito.

**[09:44:09.960] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008694)  
Your Honor, can we provide copy?

**[09:44:12.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008694-split-2)  
Yes po. Hihingi na lang po, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, ng kopya ng mga ulat ng mga naabot ng konsultasyon ng OPAPRU sa mga rehiyon sa agenda po ng Women, Peace, and Security. At sa huling manifestation natin, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, naiulat sa atin kung ano po ang naaabot sa pagdala ng Women, Peace and Security agenda ng OPAPRU: empowerment and participation, prevention of violence and protection of women and girls in crisis and conflict, gender mainstreaming. Hindi po natin mapagkakaila na nakikita sa Pilipinas ang disturbing trend

**[09:45:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008695)  
of militarization and violence affecting women.

**[09:45:03.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008696)  
Ang bilang ng mga biktima ng iba't-ibang paglabag sa karapatang pantao mula noong naupo

**[09:45:09.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008697)  
si Pangulong Marcos Jr. noong 2022, ubabot na po sa mga milyon.

**[09:45:14.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008698)  
Kabilang dito ay pananakot, harassment, sapilitang paglikas, pambobomba at iba pa.

**[09:45:21.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008699)  
Nasa 755 ang bilanggong politikal sa iba't-ibang pasilidad sa buong Pilipinas,

**[09:45:26.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008700)  
kung saan 103 sa kanila ay inaresto sa ilalim ng panunungkulan ng kasulukuyang administrasyon.

**[09:45:35.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008701)  
Mula rito, 147 ay kababaihan at mahigit kalahati ay mga magsasaka.

**[09:45:42.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008702)  
Meron ding 21 na kababaihan na biktima ng extrajudicial killings at 4 na kaso ng enforced disappearances.

**[09:45:50.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008703)  
Patuloy pa rin ang paghingi ng hustisya para sa mga comfort women,

**[09:45:53.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008704)  
mga biktima ng military sexual violence,

**[09:45:56.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008705)  
noong panahon ng hapon.

**[09:45:58.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008706)  
Ang paglaganap ng EDCA sites sa iba't-ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas

**[09:46:02.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008707)  
at ang tuloy-tuloy na joint military exercises sa U.S. at iba pang bansa ay patuloy na banta,

**[09:46:09.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008708)  
hindi lang sa siguridad, kundi nagiging vulnerable din ang mga kababaihan sa seksual na obuso

**[09:46:15.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008709)  
at napatunayan na ito ng kasaysayan.

**[09:46:18.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008710)  
Ang mga isyong nabanggit ang nais nating ilagay sa liwanag sa usapin ng Women, Peace and Security.

**[09:46:26.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008711)  
Dahil we are aware of the four pillars ng Philippine National Action Plan on Women, Peace and Security,

**[09:46:33.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008712)  
sa tingin po natin ang mga nabanggit ay hindi pa po nakakasama doon sa nalalatag sa iba't-ibang mga gawain ng OPAPRU.

**[09:46:41.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008713)  
Kaya naman po, continuously, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[09:46:45.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008714)  
we'd like to manifest that we reject the use of women's bodies and communities as collateral in military alliances and war economies.

**[09:46:55.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008715)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, hintayin na lang po natin ang mga ulat na nirequest ng kinatawan na ito.

**[09:47:02.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008716)  
But for now, maraming salamat sa mga pagsagot sa tanong natin.

**[09:47:06.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008717)  
I yield to the floor my remaining time, Mr. Speaker.

**[09:47:11.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008718)  
Thank you very much, Majority Leader.

**[09:47:14.840] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008719)  
Before that, Mr. Speaker, the OPAPRU wish to extend an invitation to the honorable members of this House,

**[09:47:25.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008720)  
to OPAP office for more briefing with regards to women, peace, security.

**[09:47:36.880] Rep. Jose "Joboy" S. Aquino II** (asr-008721)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[09:47:38.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008722)  
Salamat po, Mr. Sponsor.

**[09:47:40.300] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008724)  
Thank you very much, Majority Leader.

**[09:47:42.880] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008725)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor, I move that we recognize the honorable Presley C. De Jesus of Philreca Partylist.

**[09:47:51.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008726)  
The gentleman from Philreca Partylist, honorable Presley De Jesus.

**[09:47:55.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008727)  
Recognize.

**[09:47:57.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-008728)  
Mr. Speaker, there being no more members of the minority who wish to interpellate,

**[09:48:06.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-008729)  
I move to terminate the sponsorship and debate on the budget of OPAPRU.

**[09:48:17.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008730)  
Before I call the majority, thank you.

**[09:48:21.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008731)  
Before I call the majority, please be reminded, the Vice Chair Joboy,

**[09:48:24.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008732)  
and the Department of the requested documents and promised documents to those who ask.

**[09:48:31.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008733)  
Majority Leader, what does the House say?

**[09:48:34.880] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008734)  
Mr. Speaker, on the part of the majority, we join the minority in the motion to terminate the period of interpellation

**[09:48:41.880] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008735)  
on the proposed budget of the Office of the Presidential Advisor on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity.

**[09:48:50.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008736)  
There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation of the proposed budget of the OPAPRU.

**[09:48:54.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008737)  
Is there any objection?

**[09:48:57.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008738)  
There is none.

**[09:48:58.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008739)  
The interpellation of the proposed budget of the Office of the Presidential Advisor on Peace, Reconciliation, and Unity is hereby terminated.

**[09:49:11.520] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008740)  
Congratulations.

**[09:49:13.800] Rep. Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai** (asr-008742)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we suspend for a few minutes.

**[09:49:17.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-008743)  
Session suspended.