# House Plenary: FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 5 Part 2 - September 21, 2026

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqWNUCmrH28

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**[00:06:48.930] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000014)  
Mr. Majority Leader.

**[00:06:52.610] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000015)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of National Defense and its attached agencies.

**[00:07:01.650] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000016)  
Is there any objection? Hearing none, the motion is approved. Majority Leader.

**[00:07:09.030] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000017)  
Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge first the

**[00:07:14.880] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000018)  
officials, the heads and officials of the Department of National Defense

**[00:07:20.240] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000019)  
and the attached agencies, headed by the Secretary of the Department of

**[00:07:26.680] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000020)  
National Defense, the Honorable Gilberto Teodoro Jr.;

**[00:07:31.560] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000021)  
Senior Undersecretary Ireneo Cino;

**[00:07:34.760] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000022)  
Undersecretary Pablo M. Lorenzo;

**[00:07:38.200] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000023)  
Undersecretary Ignacio B. Madriaga;

**[00:07:41.520] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000024)  
Undersecretary Salvador Melchor B. Mison Jr.; Undersecretary Rene S. Diaz;

**[00:07:49.360] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000025)  
Secretary Emmanuel Anthony V. Ramos; Secretary Fabian M. Pedregosa;

**[00:07:56.920] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000026)  
Undersecretary Gavin D. Ejawan,

**[00:08:00.720] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000027)  
Administrator of the Philippine Veterans Affairs Office; Undersecretary Reynaldo Mapagu,

**[00:08:07.240] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000028)  
Director of Government Arsenal; Director Florante M. Amano,

**[00:08:12.110] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000029)  
President of the National Defense College of the Philippines; Director

**[00:08:17.720] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000030)  
Jun P. Carino, the Civil Defense Administrator;

**[00:08:22.520] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000031)  
Undersecretary Harold N. Cabreros;

**[00:08:26.080] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000032)  
[unclear] Veterans Memorial Medical Center; Peter Paul Ruben G. Galves;

**[00:08:32.900] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000033)  
the Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, General Antonio G. Nafarrete;

**[00:08:38.200] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000034)  
the Vice Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of the Philippines,

**[00:08:44.170] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000035)  
Lieutenant General Romel P. Roldan;

**[00:08:47.810] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000036)  
the Commanding General of the Philippine Army, Lieutenant General Donald M. Gumiran;

**[00:08:53.940] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000037)  
the Vice Commander and Acting Commanding General of the Philippine Air Force,

**[00:09:00.760] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000038)  
Major General Pablo E. Rustria Jr.; and

**[00:09:04.520] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000039)  
the Inspector General of the Philippine Navy, Rear Admiral Emilio G. Oro Jr.

**[00:09:10.870] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000040)  
We acknowledge the presence of the heads

**[00:09:13.720] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000041)  
and officials of the Department of

**[00:09:16.680] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000042)  
National Defense, including its attached agencies,

**[00:09:20.960] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000043)  
headed by Secretary Gilberto Teodoro Jr.

**[00:09:24.960] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000044)  
Welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[00:09:28.140] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000045)  
Leader.

**[00:09:28.840] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000046)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:09:29.720] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000047)  
I move

**[00:09:30.700] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000048)  
that we

**[00:09:31.200] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000049)  
open the period

**[00:09:32.280] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000050)  
of sponsorship and debate.

**[00:09:34.360] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000051)  
Is there any objection?

**[00:09:36.010] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000052)  
Hearing none,

**[00:09:37.390] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000053)  
the period of sponsorship and debate

**[00:09:39.230] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000054)  
is now open.

**[00:09:39.940] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000055)  
Leader.

**[00:09:40.940] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000056)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:09:41.620] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000057)  
I move that we recognize

**[00:09:42.640] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000058)  
the Honorable

**[00:09:43.280] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000059)  
Bella Vanessa Suansing

**[00:09:45.540] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000060)  
of the 2nd District of

**[00:09:47.460] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000061)  
Sultan Kudarat,

**[00:09:48.440] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000062)  
Vice Chairperson

**[00:09:49.180] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000063)  
of the Committee on Appropriations

**[00:09:51.300] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000064)  
to sponsor

**[00:09:52.000] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000065)  
the proposed budget

**[00:09:53.680] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000066)  
of the Department of National Defense

**[00:09:55.580] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000067)  
and its attached agencies.

**[00:09:57.900] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000068)  
Honorable Vice Chair,

**[00:09:59.080] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000069)  
Bella Vanessa Suansing

**[00:10:00.820] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000070)  
is recognized.

**[00:10:02.280] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000071)  
Please proceed.

**[00:10:03.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000072)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:10:04.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000073)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:10:05.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000074)  
distinguished colleagues,

**[00:10:07.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000075)  
this representation

**[00:10:08.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000076)  
has the great privilege

**[00:10:10.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000077)  
and honor

**[00:10:11.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000078)  
of sponsoring

**[00:10:12.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000079)  
the proposed budget

**[00:10:13.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000080)  
of the Department of National Defense

**[00:10:15.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000081)  
and its bureaus

**[00:10:16.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000082)  
and attached agencies

**[00:10:17.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000083)  
for Fiscal Year 2027.

**[00:10:20.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000084)  
The Department of National Defense

**[00:10:22.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000085)  
is vested by law

**[00:10:24.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000086)  
with the responsibility

**[00:10:26.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000087)  
of guarding

**[00:10:27.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000088)  
against the external

**[00:10:28.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000089)  
and internal

**[00:10:29.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000090)  
threats

**[00:10:30.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000091)  
that bear upon

**[00:10:31.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000092)  
the peace

**[00:10:32.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000093)  
and security

**[00:10:33.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000094)  
of the nation.

**[00:10:35.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000095)  
That mandate

**[00:10:37.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000096)  
is discharged

**[00:10:38.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000097)  
through the armed forces

**[00:10:39.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000098)  
of the Philippines

**[00:10:40.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000099)  
in the maritime,

**[00:10:42.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000100)  
air,

**[00:10:43.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000101)  
land,

**[00:10:44.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000102)  
and cyber domains,

**[00:10:46.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000103)  
through the Office of Civil Defense

**[00:10:48.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000104)  
and the administration

**[00:10:50.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000105)  
of the National Disaster Risk Reduction

**[00:10:52.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000106)  
and Management Systems,

**[00:10:54.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000107)  
and through the Philippines

**[00:10:56.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000108)  
Veterans Affairs Office,

**[00:10:59.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000112)  
in the fulfillment

**[00:11:00.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000113)  
of the obligations

**[00:11:01.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000114)  
owed to those

**[00:11:02.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000115)  
who have completed their service.

**[00:11:05.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000116)  
The uniformed service is,

**[00:11:07.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000117)  
in the ordinary course,

**[00:11:09.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000118)  
the first national instrumentality

**[00:11:12.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000119)  
to reach an affected community,

**[00:11:15.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000120)  
and in some instances,

**[00:11:16.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000121)  
the only one present

**[00:11:18.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000122)  
in the initial period

**[00:11:19.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000123)  
following a calamity.

**[00:11:22.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000124)  
That capacity

**[00:11:23.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000125)  
is sustained

**[00:11:24.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000126)  
by the appropriations

**[00:11:25.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000127)  
now before this Chamber.

**[00:11:28.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000128)  
The proposed budget provides

**[00:11:30.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000129)  
for the personnel

**[00:11:31.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000130)  
and operating requirements

**[00:11:32.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000131)  
of the department

**[00:11:33.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000132)  
and its bureaus,

**[00:11:34.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000133)  
for the capital outlay

**[00:11:35.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000134)  
through which the modernization program

**[00:11:37.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000135)  
is carried forward,

**[00:11:39.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000136)  
for the pensions

**[00:11:40.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000137)  
and the benefits

**[00:11:41.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000138)  
owed to our veterans,

**[00:11:43.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000139)  
and for the civil defense establishment

**[00:11:45.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000140)  
upon which

**[00:11:46.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000141)  
our communities depend.

**[00:11:49.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000142)  
At the time

**[00:11:50.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000143)  
when our maritime domain

**[00:11:52.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000144)  
remains contested,

**[00:11:54.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000145)  
when the threats before us

**[00:11:56.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000146)  
have extended

**[00:11:57.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000147)  
into domains

**[00:11:58.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000148)  
that no fleet

**[00:11:59.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000149)  
or garrison alone

**[00:12:00.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000150)  
is able to hold,

**[00:12:02.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000151)  
and when our forces

**[00:12:04.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000152)  
are summoned

**[00:12:05.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000153)  
with growing regularity

**[00:12:07.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000154)  
to be the first relief

**[00:12:08.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000155)  
to reach a stricken community,

**[00:12:11.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000156)  
it is incumbent

**[00:12:12.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000157)  
upon this government

**[00:12:14.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000158)  
and this Congress

**[00:12:16.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000159)  
to assure the continual operations

**[00:12:19.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000160)  
of the Department of National Defense

**[00:12:21.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000161)  
in the discharge

**[00:12:22.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000162)  
of the mandate

**[00:12:23.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000163)  
this Chamber has given it.

**[00:12:26.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000164)  
It is then

**[00:12:27.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000165)  
the humble appeal

**[00:12:28.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000166)  
of this representation

**[00:12:30.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000167)  
for this Chamber

**[00:12:31.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000168)  
to support

**[00:12:32.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000169)  
the immediate passage

**[00:12:34.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000170)  
of the proposed fiscal year

**[00:12:35.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000171)  
2027 budget

**[00:12:37.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000172)  
of the Department

**[00:12:38.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000173)  
of National Defense.

**[00:12:40.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000174)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:12:42.040] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000175)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:12:43.040] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000176)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:12:43.920] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000177)  
I move that we recognize

**[00:12:45.080] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000178)  
the Honorable

**[00:12:46.400] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000179)  
Presley C. De Jesus

**[00:12:48.720] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000180)  
of Partylist

**[00:12:50.000] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000181)  
PHILRECA

**[00:12:50.560] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000182)  
for his Interpellation.

**[00:12:52.960] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000183)  
Presley

**[00:12:53.520] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000184)  
De Jesus

**[00:12:54.120] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000185)  
is recognized

**[00:12:55.160] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000186)  
to Interpellate

**[00:12:56.120] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000187)  
the Sponsor.

**[00:12:58.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000188)  
Thank you,

**[00:12:59.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000189)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[00:13:00.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000190)  
Of course,

**[00:13:01.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000191)  
to the distinguished Sponsor.

**[00:13:02.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000192)  
Before I start

**[00:13:03.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000193)  
my Interpellation,

**[00:13:05.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000194)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:13:06.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000195)  
I would like to commend

**[00:13:07.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000196)  
the bravery

**[00:13:08.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000197)  
of our Secretary,

**[00:13:09.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000198)  
Gilbert Teodoro,

**[00:13:11.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000199)  
during the Seoul-Seoul

**[00:13:13.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000200)  
Defense Dialogue

**[00:13:15.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000201)  
wherein

**[00:13:16.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000202)  
he did not back down

**[00:13:17.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000203)  
even though

**[00:13:18.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000204)  
some Chinese

**[00:13:19.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000205)  
slipped a note

**[00:13:21.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000206)  
Doon ako bumilib sa kanya,

**[00:13:23.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000207)  
and I'm proud

**[00:13:24.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000208)  
to be a Filipino.

**[00:13:24.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000209)  
Sana ganyan lahat ng

**[00:13:26.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000210)  
ating mga kababayan

**[00:13:27.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000211)  
na pinagtatanggol

**[00:13:28.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000212)  
tayo sa ating kalagayan.

**[00:13:30.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000213)  
I salute

**[00:13:31.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000214)  
Secretary Teodoro,

**[00:13:33.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000215)  
of course the whole

**[00:13:33.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000216)  
DND

**[00:13:34.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000217)  
family.

**[00:13:35.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000219)  
Now,

**[00:13:36.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000220)  
let's go

**[00:13:37.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000221)  
to the business.

**[00:13:38.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000222)  
West Philippine Sea

**[00:13:39.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000223)  
surveillance

**[00:13:40.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000224)  
and timely

**[00:13:41.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000225)  
verification.

**[00:13:42.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000226)  
In June 2026,

**[00:13:43.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000227)  
the Government

**[00:13:44.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000228)  
investigated

**[00:13:45.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000229)  
reports

**[00:13:46.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000230)  
of a possible

**[00:13:47.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000231)  
new structure

**[00:13:48.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000232)  
at Bajo de Masinlo.

**[00:13:50.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000233)  
Secretary Teodoro

**[00:13:51.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000234)  
stated at the time

**[00:13:52.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000235)  
that the information

**[00:13:53.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000236)  
remains

**[00:13:54.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000237)  
remain unverified.

**[00:13:57.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000238)  
What has the

**[00:13:58.750] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000239)  
department established regarding those

**[00:14:00.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000240)  
reports and what lessons

**[00:14:02.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000241)  
have been incorporated into

**[00:14:04.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000242)  
the 2027 surveillance

**[00:14:06.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000243)  
and verification requirements?

**[00:14:21.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000244)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:14:22.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000245)  
there was no permanent

**[00:14:24.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000246)  
structure.

**[00:14:26.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000247)  
Come again?

**[00:14:27.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000247-split-2)  
There was no permanent

**[00:14:28.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000248)  
structure.

**[00:14:29.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000248-split-2)  
Okay.

**[00:14:30.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000249)  
So my follow-up question, without

**[00:14:32.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000250)  
disclosing sensitive coverage

**[00:14:34.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000251)  
or deployment details, what

**[00:14:36.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000252)  
limits the department's

**[00:14:38.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000253)  
ability to verify significant

**[00:14:40.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000254)  
maritime developments

**[00:14:42.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000255)  
promptly?

**[00:15:04.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000257)  
Mr. Speaker, there are several factors to be considered, but mainly it's the accuracy of the information.

**[00:15:11.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000258)  
What's that again?

**[00:15:12.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000259)  
The accuracy of the information, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:15:18.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000260)  
Okay.

**[00:15:19.340] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000261)  
My next question, does the proposed budget address those constraints through better information sharing,

**[00:15:26.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000262)  
additional operating resources, or new surveillance capabilities?

**[00:15:32.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000263)  
Capabilities.

**[00:15:53.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000264)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:15:55.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000265)  
The idea is that...

**[00:15:56.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000266)  
It's a stepping stone.

**[00:15:58.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000267)  
We want a gradual increase in operations as well.

**[00:16:08.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000268)  
As far as your surveillance capabilities, Mr. Speaker?

**[00:16:10.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000269)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:16:11.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000270)  
How are the information expenditure requirements coordinated with the Philippine Coast Guard and other relevant agencies?

**[00:16:24.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000271)  
There is real-time coordination information.

**[00:16:26.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000272)  
So, you mean the coordination between the Philippine Coast Guard and other relevant agencies required expenditure and sharing of information.

**[00:16:40.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000273)  
So, paano nyo ginagawa yun?

**[00:16:44.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000274)  
The department has fusion centers.

**[00:16:48.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000275)  
What's that?

**[00:16:49.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000276)  
Fusion centers, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:16:51.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000277)  
Okay.

**[00:16:51.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000278)  
Then, my follow-up question.

**[00:16:54.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000279)  
What improvements should Filipino fishermen...

**[00:16:56.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000280)  
and civilian maritime personnel expect in case of emergency?

**[00:17:03.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000281)  
Communication assistance and coordination during incidents at sea?

**[00:17:09.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000282)  
So, ano pong inaasaan ng ating mga fishermen in case na, as we know,

**[00:17:14.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000283)  
lagi natin napapanood, laging may aksidente niyan?

**[00:17:17.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000284)  
Okay.

**[00:17:24.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000285)  
The Coast Guard is increasing its fleet. It is also coordinating with the Philippines with regard to increasing the fleet capacity.

**[00:17:37.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000286)  
So, does the fisherman, inaalalayan ba sila ng ating mga Coast Guard pag sila'y nasa laot?

**[00:17:46.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000364)  
Are they being given instruction or advice where to go, where to do their fishing?

**[00:17:55.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000365)  
Pag nangingisda sila, mayroon ba tayong sinusunod na or area kung saan sila pwede maghanap buhay?

**[00:18:05.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000366)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:18:06.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000367)  
The Coast Guard and the BFAR, there is also assistance for fuel.

**[00:18:12.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000368)  
Then, my next question, balikatan exercises.

**[00:18:16.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000369)  
Defense benefits, costs, and management of regional tension.

**[00:18:20.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000370)  
The Philippines has broadened its joint military activities with defense partners,

**[00:18:27.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000371)  
including the United States, Japan, France.

**[00:18:30.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000372)  
Balikatan 2026 included activities in Itbayat, Batanes, near Taiwan, and drew criticism from China.

**[00:18:39.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000373)  
Question: What specific defense objectives do these exercises seek to achieve?

**[00:19:16.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000382)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:19:17.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000383)  
The objective really is terrain awareness.

**[00:19:21.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000384)  
The idea of the department is a whole 360 terrain awareness.

**[00:19:27.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000385)  
So, all of the exercises, air exercises, land exercises, are in pursuit of that objective of terrain awareness.

**[00:19:35.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000386)  
So, it's basically acclimatizing our troops towards the terrain.

**[00:19:42.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000387)  
Another objective also is to introduce our troops to new types of defense.

**[00:19:46.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000388)  
Types of weaponry and machinery.

**[00:19:48.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000389)  
So, in short, we do this exercise through awareness.

**[00:19:55.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000390)  
Ito yung gusto natin malaman.

**[00:19:57.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000391)  
At the same time, siguro para matrain din ang ating mga sandatang lakas.

**[00:20:03.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000392)  
My question, do China think this balikatan exercise as an aggressive toward them?

**[00:20:40.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000393)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:20:48.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000417)  
Given the scale of the operations, there won't be any reason for it to be treated as aggression.

**[00:20:52.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000418)  
At least that is the stance of the department.

**[00:20:56.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000419)  
Then again, all of these joint activities are somewhat construed as provocative given its objective.

**[00:21:06.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000420)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Madam Sponsor.

**[00:21:09.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000421)  
What measurable improvements in the armed forces' capabilities have resulted from previous exercises?

**[00:21:18.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000422)  
Did we gain anything from the Balikatan exercises as far as our armed forces is concerned?

**[00:21:39.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000423)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:21:47.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000424)  
Actually, one of the successes of the Balikatan exercises is that the experience of those exercises enabled the Philippines to lead a 40-fighter strike in Australia.

**[00:22:00.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000425)  
So, it just shows the increase in the capabilities of our troops because of these Balikatan exercises.

**[00:22:06.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000426)  
Okay.

**[00:22:07.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000427)  
Last question for this particular department.

**[00:22:09.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000428)  
Balikatan exercises, and I move to the other topic.

**[00:22:12.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000429)  
What measures are in place to prevent miscalculation and manage regional tensions while preserving the Philippines' independent defense decision?

**[00:22:32.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000430)  
Mr. Speaker, it's strict adherence to UNCLOS and international law.

**[00:22:37.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000431)  
UNCLOS.

**[00:22:39.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000432)  
And I'll move to my next topic, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:22:43.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000433)  
This regards the drone expansion, artificial intelligence, and secure systems.

**[00:22:50.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000434)  
August 25, 2026, Budget Hearing Secretary Teodoro discussed expanding the military's unmanned capabilities.

**[00:22:59.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000435)  
He emphasized that effective use requires operational integration, secure communication, and supporting networks,

**[00:23:09.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000436)  
not simply the acquisition of more drones.

**[00:23:13.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000437)  
Question.

**[00:23:14.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000438)  
How does proposed 2027 budget ensure that drone acquisitions are accompanied by the systems and trained personnel needed to use them effectively?

**[00:23:47.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000441)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:23:48.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000442)  
So, these integration systems are being introduced in this particular budget.

**[00:23:55.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000443)  
This would be under C4ISTAR, so Command, Control, Communication, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition, and Reconnaissance,

**[00:24:04.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000444)  
which is one of the core pillars of the comprehensive archipelagic defense concept.

**[00:24:09.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000445)  
Do you know how, Mr. Speaker, do you know how, and District Sponsor, do you know how much the budget for these drones?

**[00:24:34.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000446)  
For the fiscal year 2027 proposed budget,

**[00:24:39.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000447)  
Mr. Speaker, it's the funding of the governance systems first before,

**[00:24:43.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000448)  
the governance systems for the drones before we actually use the drones.

**[00:24:47.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000449)  
So, we need to fund the governance systems first.

**[00:24:52.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000450)  
Does the department use artificial intelligence models to process imagery,

**[00:25:00.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000451)  
identify unusual activity, or prioritize information for human analysts?

**[00:25:24.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000452)  
The department cannot disclose.

**[00:25:29.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000453)  
Come again?

**[00:25:30.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000454)  
The department cannot disclose.

**[00:25:32.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000455)  
Cannot?

**[00:25:33.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000456)  
Disclose.

**[00:25:33.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000457)  
Okay.

**[00:25:35.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000458)  
Fair enough.

**[00:25:38.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000459)  
Next question.

**[00:25:39.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000460)  
Would additional funding produce greater benefits if directed toward analytical personnel, communications, and maintenance rather than additional equipment alone?

**[00:25:52.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000461)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:25:53.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000462)  
Okay. Thank you.

**[00:25:54.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000463)  
Now, I move to another topic.

**[00:25:56.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000464)  
Expanded defense partnerships and their budgetary requirements.

**[00:26:01.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000465)  
The Philippines and France signed a visiting forces agreement in March 2026.

**[00:26:07.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000466)  
The proposed performance documents,

**[00:26:09.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000467)  
the target for bilateral and multilateral engagement also rises from 159 in 2026 to 242 in 2027.

**[00:26:19.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000468)  
Question.

**[00:26:20.820] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000469)  
What capability gains justify the proposed increase in bilateral and multilateral engagement?

**[00:27:47.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000485)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker. There are classified capability changes that the department is already observing with regard to our capabilities and defense posture. That would justify the increase of the targets of our bilateral and multilateral partnerships with other government partners.

**[00:28:14.040] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000486)  
Thank you. Next, I have only three last questions, three questions. What arrangements determine which costs are borne by the Philippines and which are borne by partner countries?

**[00:29:08.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000489)  
The general rule is, if it's an expense incurred of our troops, of our machinery, then that's our counterpart cost.

**[00:29:18.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000490)  
Whereas, those that involve the troops and the machinery of counterparts, then the counterparts bear that cost.

**[00:29:27.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000491)  
So, in short, what's the proposition? Kanya-kanya sila?

**[00:29:30.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000492)  
Yes.

**[00:29:30.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000493)  
Most likely, it's a 50-50 proposition. Fair enough. Thank you.

**[00:29:35.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000494)  
Next, how does the department assess?

**[00:29:37.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000495)  
Whether participation improves operational proficiency or interoperability?

**[00:29:50.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000496)  
Yes, every exercise, Mr. Speaker, is scored. There is an assessment with regards to indicators.

**[00:30:00.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000497)  
For my last question, which recently completed defense initiative has produced the clearest measurable improvement relative to its cost and what made it successful?

**[00:30:45.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000498)  
Mr. Speaker, the department says it's Exercise Pitch Black, which was conducted in Australia.

**[00:30:54.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000498-split-2)  
Exercise what?

**[00:30:55.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000498-split-3)  
Pitch Black. Pitch Black.

**[00:31:01.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000499)  
In Australia.

**[00:31:02.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000500)  
Okay. Again, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, I support the budget of Department of National Defense and to the ND family, thank you for your service. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:31:17.740] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000501)  
Leader.

**[00:31:19.560] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000502)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to recognize the Honorable Sarah Jane Elago of Partylist Gabriela Women's Party for her interpellation.

**[00:31:28.340] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000503)  
Honorable Sarah Jane.

**[00:31:30.000] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000504)  
Elago is recognized. Please proceed.

**[00:31:34.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000505)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:31:38.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000506)  
Una tungkol sa tatag ng infrastruktura para sa kapayapaan at siguridad projects o mga tikas projects.

**[00:31:47.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000507)  
Mula taong 2019 hanggang 2025, may total budget ang tikas program, ang convergence program ng DND at DPWH na P38.03 billion.

**[00:32:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000508)  
Mula 2019 hanggang end of 2025, ilan na nga ba talaga ang total approved tikas projects?

**[00:32:09.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000509)  
Ilan dito ang complete, ongoing, delayed, unusable, suspended, at magsisimula pa lang?

**[00:32:17.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000510)  
Ang mga katanungan po na ito ay naitanong na rin natin noong budget briefing, ngunit hindi po tayo nakakuha noong detalyado na status report na kada proyekto.

**[00:32:30.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000511)  
At medyo nalito pa po tayo dahil magkakaiba po yung bilang ng proyekto na naibigay po sa representasyon na ito.

**[00:32:41.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000512)  
Una, noong October 8, 2025, sang-ayon po kay DND Secretary Chodoro sa isang news report, sinabi na may 944 approved projects mula 2019 at 648 projects dito ang kumpleto na.

**[00:33:02.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000513)  
Ngunit sa pareho, ayon naman kay AFP Chief of Staff Brawner, from 2019 to 2025, ang TIKAS po ay may 927 approved infrastructure projects, samantalang 663 ang completed at meron pang 139 na ongoing.

**[00:33:28.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000514)  
Nakuha natin na submission mula sa Department of National Defense. Mula 2021 hanggang 2026, ang Philippine Army may 472 TICAS projects worth 14.496 billion. At para naman sa Philippine Air Force, mula taong 2019 hanggang 2025, meron pong 159 projects worth 4.806 billion.

**[00:33:57.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000515)  
Yung bilang po na nakuha natin mula sa 2021 hanggang 2026 sa Philippine Army at mula sa 2019 hanggang 2025 ay hindi po nagtutugma dun sa 900 plus approved projects na unang nabalita mula noong nakaraang taon.

**[00:34:17.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000516)  
Maari po ba itong maipaliwanag ng ating distinguished sponsor? At kung maaari po makapagbigay kayo ng ano po ba talaga yung datos?

**[00:34:26.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000517)  
Pagdating sa mga proyektong ito.

**[00:34:29.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000518)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For the TIKAS program, if I may enumerate: for the Philippine Army from 2021 to 2026, the number of projects is 413. That is the total number of projects, 413. For the Philippine Air Force from 2019 to 2025, it is 159 projects. For the Philippine Navy from 2019 to 2025, it is 117 projects. And then the GHQ proper from 2020 to 2026 is 233 projects. So that totals to 922 total projects.

**[00:35:23.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000519)  
With regards to completion,

**[00:35:26.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000520)  
For those that have been completed, for the Philippine Army, it's 273 completed projects.

**[00:35:36.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000521)  
For the Philippine Air Force, it's 133 completed projects.

**[00:35:43.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000522)  
The Philippine Navy, 91 completed projects.

**[00:35:48.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000523)  
GHQ proper, 12 completed.

**[00:35:51.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000524)  
So that's a total of 509 projects.

**[00:35:56.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000525)  
Mr. Speaker, saan po nanggagaling yung nasa 400 plus na unaccounted dun po sa naiulat ninyo?

**[00:36:08.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000526)  
Kasi ang sabi po noong October 2025, 944 po yung total na bilang ng approved projects.

**[00:36:16.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000527)  
At mangingila lang po ako ng detalya nito.

**[00:36:21.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000528)  
Pwede po ba natin kunin ang commitment ng ating distinguished sponsor, ang DND, pagdating po?

**[00:36:26.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000529)  
Sa report mismo.

**[00:36:28.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000530)  
Kasi gusto po natin makita saan ba yung lakasyon, saan ba napunta yung pondo,

**[00:36:33.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000531)  
natapos na ba talaga ang mga infrastruktura,

**[00:36:37.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000532)  
upang matiyak natin na ang pondo po ng ating bayan ay napupunta talaga sa kung saan ito layon na magasta.

**[00:36:48.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000533)  
Ngayon po, yung nabanggit nyo ng mga completed na mga projects,

**[00:36:53.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000534)  
lahat ba ito may turnover documents na?

**[00:36:56.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000535)  
At lahat ba ito ay natayo sa mga lupa na meron ng titulo?

**[00:37:00.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000536)  
Thank you.

**[00:37:49.350] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000537)  
Mr. Speaker, tumatakbo ang aking oras. May I pause habang naghihintay sa ating distinguished sponsor?

**[00:37:56.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000538)  
At yung ating distinguished sponsor.

**[00:38:03.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000539)  
Mr. Speaker, well, first, just to address the number.

**[00:38:13.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000540)  
Ito po kasing number 922, ito po yung completed.

**[00:38:18.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000541)  
But meron kasi tayo ng mga projects na designed.

**[00:38:26.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000542)  
Depende kasi yun dun sa design.

**[00:38:28.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000543)  
So minsan nagkakaproblema po tayo dun.

**[00:38:30.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000544)  
Kaya po, hindi po siya nako-complete.

**[00:38:34.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000545)  
Kasi besides na iba yung disenyo, minsan po yung lupa may dispute.

**[00:38:40.700] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000546)  
Minsan din po may facing.

**[00:38:42.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000547)  
So yung binention ko po na 509 na completed projects,

**[00:38:48.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000548)  
completed po siya kasi yun po talaga yung na-turnover na proper documentation and all that.

**[00:38:55.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000549)  
But,

**[00:38:56.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000550)  
yung rest po, yung differential na yung 122 at saka ng 509,

**[00:39:01.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000551)  
may facing po kasi talaga siya.

**[00:39:04.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000552)  
Gusto rin pong sabihin ng departamento na

**[00:39:07.720] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000553)  
ang implementing agency po ng TCAS ay ang DPWH.

**[00:39:13.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000554)  
So, kung may mga ganito pong mga katanungan in terms of

**[00:39:18.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000555)  
ano yung rason for the delays,

**[00:39:22.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000556)  
DPWH po ang mapapagtanungan natin ng mga konserwasyon.

**[00:39:26.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000557)  
Or na yun.

**[00:39:28.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000558)  
Mister Speaker, hindi po ba kasaba ang DND sa nag-issue ng Joint Memorandum Circular No. 44,

**[00:39:36.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000559)  
series of 2024?

**[00:39:38.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000560)  
Maari po ba itong balikan ng ating Distinguished Sponsor at ng ating departamento?

**[00:39:43.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000561)  
Anong sinasabi dyan na obligation po ng DND pagdating sa monitoring at evaluation

**[00:39:50.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000562)  
ng mga proyekto sa ilalim ng TCAS program?

**[00:40:26.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000564)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker. As of now, with regards to those that have been the ongoing projects from the time before 2025, continuing pa po yung validation of these projects.

**[00:40:51.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000565)  
Nag-conduct po ng validation and assessment din ang Department of National Defense.

**[00:40:56.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000566)  
In terms of kamusta yung mga structure.

**[00:40:59.700] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000567)  
But yung implementing agency po talaga kasi ay DPWH.

**[00:41:05.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000568)  
So, pero on the part of the DND, we are assured na kung meron mang delays po doon sa implementation ng itong mga TICAS projects, ay nag-a-assess din po on-site ang DND.

**[00:41:21.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000569)  
Meron na po bang risulta ang inyong mga initial assessment?

**[00:41:26.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000570)  
May ginawa?

**[00:41:27.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000571)  
Halimbawa, Mr. Speaker, nabanggit din po noong budget briefing na meron po for 2026, 27 non-implementable at may 51 na implementable pa na proyekto sa ilalim ng TICAS program.

**[00:41:46.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000572)  
Ano po ba ang ibig sabihin ng binanggit na non-implementable?

**[00:41:53.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000573)  
Ibig sabihin po ba may mga limitations?

**[00:41:56.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000574)  
sa paggamit ng budget? May mga, meron ba ang factor ng impossibility

**[00:42:04.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000575)  
dahil sa mga problema halimbawa sa lupa na katulad ng nabanggit

**[00:42:08.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000576)  
ng ating distinguished sponsor? May update po ba kayo kung nagbago na

**[00:42:13.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000577)  
ang mga bilang na ito ng mga implementable at non-implementable?

**[00:42:17.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000578)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Based on official data, ang terminated or suspended

**[00:42:26.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000579)  
po na projects, one of the factors being may problema sa lupa, is 43.

**[00:42:36.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000580)  
43 projects. With regards to updates as to even those ongoing projects

**[00:42:44.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000581)  
na might be terminated because of disputes in land

**[00:42:46.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000582)  
and other problems with implementation.

**[00:42:49.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000583)  
implementation. Again, the DND cannot give information on it given that

**[00:42:56.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000584)  
the implementing agency would be the DPWH.

**[00:43:00.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000585)  
Mr. Speaker, mahirap po na ganyan po ang kasagutan sa atin.

**[00:43:04.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000586)  
Dahil malinaw po sa DND-DPWH Joint Memorandum Circular No. 44,

**[00:43:10.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000587)  
Series of 2024, na may tatlo pong mahalaga na obligation dito ang DND.

**[00:43:16.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000588)  
Unang-una, lahat ng potential military infrastructure projects ay magmumula

**[00:43:23.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000589)  
sa DND AFP units. Pangalawa, DND Secretary ang mag-e-endorse ng validated,

**[00:43:31.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000590)  
evaluated, at prioritized list ng TICAS projects sa DPWH Secretary.

**[00:43:37.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000591)  
At pangatlo, at pinakamahalaga, Mr. Speaker, may obligasyon ang DND representative

**[00:43:44.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000592)  
sa Joint Project Monitoring and

**[00:43:47.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000593)  
Supervising Team na mag-observe ng conduct ng procurement activities, mag-monitor ng project progress, mag-resolve ng issues habang ini-implement ang projects at magsumite ng monthly accomplishment reports.

**[00:44:08.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000594)  
Ito po yung dahilan kung bakit hinihingi natin sa DND mismo yung lagay, yung status ng mga proyektong ito, dahil hindi naman po biro yung ₱38 billion. Mas mataas pa po yan sa buong budget ng DOST para sa susunod na taon. Kaya napakahalaga ng bawat piso na ginagastos sa mga proyektong ito. Ngayon naman, hihintayin po natin yung detalyadong status report na may kinalaman dito sa TIKAS program.

**[00:44:46.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000595)  
Ngunit hayaan niyo po akong dumiretso sa naging sagot sa atin para sa TIKAS sa susunod na taon, for fiscal year 2027.

**[00:44:53.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000596)  
Ang sinasabi po ay walang TIKAS project para sa 2027. Tama po ba?

**[00:45:07.870] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000597)  
Wala na po. Wala na pong TIKAS projects for 2027 as per the DND. Opo.

**[00:45:12.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000598)  
Ngunit napansin din po ng representasyon na ito na may mga proyekto po sa ilalim ng DPWH,

**[00:45:19.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000599)  
sa ilalim po ng Basic Infrastructure Program o BIP na nakalista sa ilalim ng TICAS program noong taong 2024 at 2025.

**[00:45:30.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000600)  
Ibig sabihin po, project na po siya sa 2024 at 2025.

**[00:45:34.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000601)  
Pero nagulat po kami na nalista po ulit sa BIP para sa taong 2027.

**[00:45:42.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000602)  
Noong tinignan po namin yung mga projects na ito sa DPWH website, napansin po namin na meron po dito expired na ang contracts.

**[00:45:51.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000603)  
Pero hindi pa nagsisimula o ongoing pa lang ang proyekto.

**[00:45:56.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000604)  
May mga proyekto din po na lagpas na sa project costs.

**[00:45:59.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000605)  
Ang nailaan na budget.

**[00:46:01.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000606)  
Halimbawa na lang, Mr. Speaker, sa Region 3 po.

**[00:46:06.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000607)  
Construction ng multi-purpose building, two-story unit barracks at boot camp, two area sa San Antonio, Zambales.

**[00:46:15.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000608)  
Ang contract cost po ay 56.91 million.

**[00:46:18.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000609)  
Habang 60 million pesos ang nakalaan sa ilalim ng 2024 GAA.

**[00:46:26.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000610)  
O baga may sobra pa pong konting million.

**[00:46:28.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000611)  
At may daan.

**[00:46:29.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000612)  
May dagdag na 6.5 million pesos sa ilalim ng 2027 NEP.

**[00:46:35.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000613)  
Ibig sabihin po, nalista na sa 2024 tapos may dagdag po na 6.5 million pesos sa 2027 NEP.

**[00:46:45.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000614)  
Nagsimula po ang proyekto noong September 2024 at ang kontrata expired na ng July 2025.

**[00:46:53.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000615)  
Gayunman, ang sabi po dito sa DPWH website tungkol sa project,

**[00:46:59.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000616)  
na ito, 66.81% pa lang po ang physical accomplishment.

**[00:47:05.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000617)  
Gayun din, tungkol naman po sa rehabilitation ng multi-purpose building,

**[00:47:12.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000618)  
two units, six-door, married personal quarters, flat house, sa parehong lugar po.

**[00:47:18.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000619)  
Ang contract cost ay 28.67 million pesos, habang 30 million pesos ang nasa 2025 na manag-AA.

**[00:47:27.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000620)  
At may dagdag po itong

**[00:47:28.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000621)  
25 million sa 2027 NEP.

**[00:47:34.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000622)  
Hanggang ngayon po, 0% po ang nakareflex sa DPWH website na accomplishment ng proyekto na ito.

**[00:47:41.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000623)  
Bakit po ba hindi natatapos ang mga proyekto sa loob ng naitakda na contract period?

**[00:47:47.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000624)  
At bakit po ba kailangan magkaroon ng dagdag na budget?

**[00:47:51.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000625)  
Sino po ba yung nag-assess?

**[00:47:52.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000626)  
Sino po yung nag-submit sa DPWH ng mga proyekto na ito?

**[00:47:57.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000627)  
Na napondohan na dati sa ilalim ng 2027 NEP.

**[00:47:59.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000628)  
Na napondohan na dati sa ilalim ng TICAS, hindi natapos, may dagdag na naman po tayo para sa 2027,

**[00:48:07.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000629)  
na malinaw po sa item na TICAS pa rin.

**[00:48:10.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000630)  
So hindi po totoo na wala pong TICAS program, maaari po hindi na TICAS po yung tawag,

**[00:48:18.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000631)  
dahil ang sabi nga sa atin ng DPWH, nagkaroon na po sila ng consolidation ng mga infrastructure program.

**[00:48:25.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000632)  
So hindi man ito TICAS, pero nakita po natin na pareho,

**[00:48:29.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000633)  
yung line item na nakasulat po sa mga taon na ito.

**[00:48:37.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000634)  
Mr. Speaker, the Department takes note of these concerns and will review.

**[00:48:48.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000635)  
If the distinguished colleague can also furnish us a copy of these details so we can review.

**[00:48:55.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000636)  
But for fiscal year 2027, the Department confirms that no TICAS projects have been submitted.

**[00:49:03.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000637)  
There's no list of any projects under the TICAS program.

**[00:49:07.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000638)  
Ay, sige po.

**[00:49:09.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000639)  
Ngayon, Mr. Speaker, ang nakakabahala po dito, kasi po ang sagot po sa atin ng DND noong budget briefing,

**[00:49:16.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000640)  
ay magtanong po tayo sa DPWH.

**[00:49:18.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000641)  
Nung nagtanong po tayo sa DPWH,

**[00:49:22.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000642)  
ah,

**[00:49:23.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000643)  
gusto ko pa,

**[00:49:24.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000644)  
sanang sabihin,

**[00:49:25.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000645)  
na nagulat po ako,

**[00:49:26.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000646)  
pero medyo hindi po ako nagulat doon sa sagot sa akin na wala rin pong update

**[00:49:31.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000647)  
tungkol dito sa monitoring, evaluation,

**[00:49:36.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000648)  
at pagchecheck ng bilyon-bilyon na pondo para po sa TICAS program.

**[00:49:44.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000649)  
At ang banggit po noon ni Secretary Dizon,

**[00:49:47.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000650)  
ay nung panahon na yun na chinecheck po natin itong TICAS program,

**[00:49:51.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000651)  
ay kakalagay niya lang din po sa DPWH.

**[00:49:53.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000652)  
At nagbigay naman po,

**[00:49:55.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000653)  
ng commitment na iimbestigahan at titignan ang proyekto na ito.

**[00:49:59.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000654)  
At yan din po ang aasahan natin na maitanong pagbalik ng DPWH dito sa plenaryo.

**[00:50:06.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000655)  
Pero dahil inunote na rin po ng ating distinguished sponsor at ng DND ang ating concern tungkol dito,

**[00:50:13.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000656)  
napansin po namin na ang T2B3 Builders and Supplies Corporation

**[00:50:18.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000657)  
ay kabilang po sa contractors na nakuha sa mga TICAS projects.

**[00:50:23.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000658)  
Nakakuha rin po ito ng maraming government, infrastructure contracts,

**[00:50:28.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000659)  
kabilang na po ang mga flood control projects.

**[00:50:33.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000660)  
Sa TICAS project, halimbawa po,

**[00:50:38.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000661)  
sa isa pong proyekto na T2B3 Builders and Supplies Corporation ang contractor,

**[00:50:44.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000662)  
meron po silang isang proyekto na 66.81% lang po ang accomplishment

**[00:50:49.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000663)  
kahit nag-expire na ang kontrata noong July 17, 2020.

**[00:50:53.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000664)  
At hanggang ngayon, nakalista pa rin ang ongoing project.

**[00:50:58.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000665)  
Hindi po ba ito malinaw na red flag sa tingin po ng ating distinguished sponsor?

**[00:51:03.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000666)  
At dahil po sa ganitong issue, dapat, hindi na po talaga tayo maghintay pa ng isang taon,

**[00:51:12.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000667)  
agad-agad, kinakailangan po talagang imbestigahan ang ganitong tipo po ng mga gawain.

**[00:51:18.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000668)  
At yung isa pong contractor na na-flag na for flood control projects,

**[00:51:23.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000669)  
isa rin po sa mga hindi nakakatapos ng proyekto sa ilalim ng TICAS program.

**[00:51:32.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000670)  
Meron po ba tayong marinig na posisyon dito ng ating distinguished sponsor?

**[00:51:39.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000671)  
Isa rin po kasi sa hiningi nating detalya ng budget briefing kung sino po yung mga contractor dun sa mga TICAS program.

**[00:51:47.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000672)  
Kasi hindi po natin gusto maulit yung nangyari sa flood control.

**[00:51:53.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000673)  
Na marami pong mga proyekto, ang kala po natin at inaasahan natin makatulong sa ating bayan,

**[00:52:00.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000674)  
pero hindi naman po natatapos.

**[00:52:20.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000675)  
The department, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:52:23.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000676)  
will raise it with the DPWH.

**[00:52:25.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000677)  
It takes note of the concern given that it's the DPWH that was involved with the awarding process.

**[00:52:33.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000678)  
Yes, mainam.

**[00:52:34.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000679)  
Mr. Speaker, talagang sa lalong madaling panahon, magkaroon po dito ng imbestigasyon,

**[00:52:40.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000680)  
makasuhan ang dapat makasuhan, may habulin tayo kung may dapat mapanagot,

**[00:52:45.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000681)  
at matiyak po natin na yung bilyong-bilyong pondo ay nailalagay para dun sa kadyang layunin.

**[00:52:51.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000682)  
At,

**[00:52:53.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000683)  
yung binanggit ko po kanina na nasa ilalim ng BIP, hindi pa po yun lahat.

**[00:52:58.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000684)  
Kasi, nasa libo po yung nasa ilalim ng Basic Infrastructure Program.

**[00:53:02.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000685)  
Dati po kasi, Mr. Speaker, di ba, nakahati yan per department.

**[00:53:06.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000686)  
Kung sino yung mga kapartner po nila ng mga agencies.

**[00:53:09.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000687)  
Halimbawa, ang Department of Tourism, dati merong Tourism Road Infrastructure Project.

**[00:53:14.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000688)  
Ganon din po sa DND, merong ngayong TICAS.

**[00:53:17.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000689)  
Ngayon po kasi, halo-halo na.

**[00:53:19.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000690)  
Kaya, yung diligence, pagdating po sa pag-check ng kada isa,

**[00:53:23.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000691)  
ay naway, bigyan din po ng karampatang aksyon ng kapulungan na ito.

**[00:53:29.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000692)  
Ngayon naman, ginoong speaker, nais ko pong magtanong tungkol sa ginagastos po ng ating pamahalaan

**[00:53:35.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000693)  
para sa Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement.

**[00:53:42.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000694)  
Magkano na po ang nagastos ng EDCA, para sa EDCA, mula po nang ito ay mapirmahan?

**[00:53:53.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000695)  
Ang nakalagay lang po din sa budget for fiscal year 2027 would be yung regular camp expenses.

**[00:54:14.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000696)  
But, particularly for EDCA, wala po under the fiscal year 2027 proposed budget.

**[00:54:23.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000697)  
Maraming salamat, ginoong speaker.

**[00:54:25.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000698)  
At muli po, higin po natin yung breakdown ng mga expenses po na iyan.

**[00:54:31.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000699)  
Dahil, nababahala rin po tayo at matagal na rin po natin itong napaninindigan sa mga kababaihan,

**[00:54:39.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000700)  
sa Gabriela Women's Party.

**[00:54:41.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000701)  
Lalo na po ngayon, sa harap ng tumitinding tensyon sa iba't ibang panig ng mundo,

**[00:54:45.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000702)  
nadamang-daman ng Pilipinas ngayon, sumirit na naman yung presyo ng langis,

**[00:54:49.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000703)  
nararapat lang talaga na ang pamahalaan natin,

**[00:54:53.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000704)  
ay tumindig at mag-iit na para sa isang tunay na malaya at nagsasarili na patakarang panlabas.

**[00:55:00.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000705)  
Nagsasarili, independyente na patakarang panlabas.

**[00:55:04.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000706)  
Independent foreign policy na hindi po natin dapat basta-basta lang ipapagamit ang ating lupain,

**[00:55:11.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000707)  
mga daungan at maging ang mga sibilyang sasakyan dagat upang magsilbi po sa interest ng kahit sino mang mga dayuhan.

**[00:55:19.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000708)  
At ang kaugnay po nito,

**[00:55:23.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000709)  
sa mga fisherfolk na affected ng fishing ban dahil sa balikatang exercises,

**[00:55:29.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000710)  
nagtanong po ako sa BIFAR kung meron po silang specific line item para po sa pantulong sa ating affected fisherfolk.

**[00:55:37.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000711)  
Ang sabi po nila ay wala.

**[00:55:40.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000712)  
Maari po bang magbigay dito ng paglilinaw ang D&D?

**[00:55:43.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000713)  
Kung paano po natin, kumbaga, hindi lang tinutulungan eh, pero dapat nga po natin iwasan yung na maapektuhan,

**[00:55:53.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000714)  
po yung kabuhayan ng ating mga manging isda sa ganitong tipo ng mga exercises.

**[00:56:26.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000716)  
Mr. Speaker, for the interest of time, mahingina lang po tayo ng plano tungkol dito.

**[00:56:32.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000717)  
Kasi po, sa tingin ko po, ang hindi biro yung mga 3 to 5 days na hindi po nakakapangisda yung ating mga fisherfolk.

**[00:56:40.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000718)  
At nilirais po nila yung impact talaga.

**[00:56:43.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000719)  
Kabuhayan dun sa kanilang kita, yung lost income nila because of this fishing ban.

**[00:56:49.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000720)  
Ang mga manging isda po ang pinakamahirap na sektor.

**[00:56:53.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000721)  
Sa ating bansa, may pinakamataas na porsyento ng poverty incidence.

**[00:56:57.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000722)  
Kaya po, kada araw na affected yung kanilang kabuhayan ay malaki pong impact sa kanilang mga pamilya.

**[00:57:05.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000723)  
Ngayon naman ginoong speaker tungkol po sa GAD budget report ng Philippine Commission on Women para sa 2024.

**[00:57:12.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000724)  
Nakita po natin doon na mataas po ang percentage ng nagagamit ng DND para po sa gender and development.

**[00:57:26.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000725)  
Mataas po ang kanilang utilization para sa National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security.

**[00:57:32.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000726)  
Para sa taong 2024, noong naglabas po ng assessment ang PCW,

**[00:57:41.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000727)  
nasa 80.6%.

**[00:57:42.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000728)  
Ang percentage ng WPS na nagagamit ng diretsyo sa WPS-related activities, programs, and expenditure.

**[00:57:55.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000729)  
Ngayon din po, ang Philippine Army, ang panglima sa may pinakamataas na GAD budget allocation.

**[00:58:03.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000730)  
Nasa 15.37%.

**[00:58:06.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000731)  
Ang nakalagay lang po sa ating general provision, at least 5%.

**[00:58:10.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000732)  
Pero, nasa times 3 po.

**[00:58:12.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000733)  
So, 15.37%.

**[00:58:14.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000734)  
Maari po bang mabigay sa atin yung detalye?

**[00:58:17.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000735)  
Ano po ba yung mga particular projects at activities ng DND na may kinalaman sa Women, Peace, and Security?

**[00:58:25.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000736)  
At ano po yung mga klase ng activities na nakapaloob sa mga projects na ito?

**[00:58:35.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000737)  
At kung maari na rin pong isama ng ating distinguished sponsor,

**[00:58:39.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000738)  
isama na rin po sa kanyang UPS,

**[00:58:42.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000739)  
at kung maulat yung sa Philippine Army?

**[00:59:01.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000740)  
Oh, yes.

**[00:59:04.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000741)  
Mr. Speaker, with regards to the GAD activities

**[00:59:10.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000742)  
being conducted by the Department of National Defense,

**[00:59:12.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000743)  
there are gender-based health interventions.

**[00:59:17.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000744)  
So, kasama po dito yung pagtuturo po sa mga buntis nating mga personel

**[00:59:23.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000745)  
kung paano po mag-alaga po ng mga anak nila.

**[00:59:29.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000746)  
Besides po nun,

**[00:59:33.700] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000747)  
yung international and local engagement on GAD and Women, Peace, and Security,

**[00:59:38.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000748)  
and then implementation of...

**[00:59:42.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000749)  
activities under the PCW-AFP Partnership Agreement.

**[00:59:46.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000750)  
So, may assessment and validation of gender mainstreaming performance of the AFP.

**[00:59:51.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000751)  
Continuous engagement with DND, OPA, Peru, and PCW on matters pertaining to the GAD.

**[00:59:57.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000752)  
Gender-responsive planning and budgeting seminar workshops.

**[01:00:00.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000753)  
with Harmonized GAD Guidelines Applications,

**[01:00:04.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000754)  
AFP GAD Family Conference,

**[01:00:06.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000755)  
AFP GAD Executive Briefings,

**[01:00:09.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000756)  
participation and support to the National Women's Month Celebrations,

**[01:00:15.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000757)  
and 18-day campaign to end violence against women.

**[01:00:19.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000758)  
Regular conferences of the AFP GAD focal point system,

**[01:00:24.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000759)  
formulation, review, and revision of GAD-related policies,

**[01:00:27.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000760)  
integration of GAD perspective to AFP policies,

**[01:00:31.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000761)  
ASEAN Institute for Peace and Reconciliation WPS Training Program,

**[01:00:37.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000762)  
and kasama din po doon sa GAD programs and D&D ang Men's Rights Seminars.

**[01:00:47.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000763)  
Ano pong nilalaman nung, tama po ba yung rinig ko, Men's Rights Seminars?

**[01:00:53.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000764)  
Yes, yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:00:55.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000765)  
Equal rights, of course.

**[01:00:57.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000766)  
Men have rights too.

**[01:01:00.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000767)  
Pero alam na po natin na kumbaga habang malinaw,

**[01:01:07.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000768)  
yung karapatan ng kababaihan, ng mga kalalakihan, at ng lahat po ng gender diverse people,

**[01:01:13.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000769)  
ang focus naman natin ay hindi kumbaga paghiwalayin,

**[01:01:16.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000770)  
kundi bigyan nandiin yung pantay na karapatan ng lahat.

**[01:01:22.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000771)  
Number one.

**[01:01:22.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000772)  
Tapos number two, kaya naman po tayo may special focus,

**[01:01:27.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000773)  
and attention sa women's rights.

**[01:01:30.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000774)  
Dahil sa ating kasaysayan, at magpasahangga ngayon,

**[01:01:36.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000775)  
yung prevalence, yung dami, yung lawak, yung tagal ng pagkamit ng justisya,

**[01:01:44.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000776)  
halimbawa ng nakakaranas ng iba't ibang forma ng pang-aabuso,

**[01:01:49.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000777)  
ang kalakhan pa rin po talaga ay mga kababaihan.

**[01:01:52.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000778)  
Kaya po, matagal nyo na pong,

**[01:01:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000779)  
ito'y papatupad, ito pong Men's Rights Seminar.

**[01:02:01.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000780)  
Ano po yung mga particular courses or subject matter na laman ng mga ito?

**[01:02:12.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000781)  
Yes.

**[01:02:14.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000782)  
Isang beses pa lang po daw, ginawa po itong Men's Rights Seminar.

**[01:02:19.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000783)  
Parang intro, production, introductory course pa lang po.

**[01:02:24.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000784)  
Conducted.

**[01:02:27.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000785)  
Yeah, it was conducted po by former Justice Sandoval Gutierrez,

**[01:02:33.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000786)  
Angelina Sandoval Gutierrez.

**[01:02:35.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000787)  
Ano po siya, it revolved around legal discussions on men's rights,

**[01:02:40.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000788)  
through jurisprudence on the anti-violence against women and their children act,

**[01:02:44.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000789)  
and family law remedies.

**[01:02:46.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000790)  
Yun po yung contents of the Men's Rights Seminar.

**[01:02:50.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000791)  
Sa kabilang banda, nagbigay din po ba kayo ng pinakalling mga updates sa jurisprudence

**[01:02:55.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000792)  
na may kinalaman sa mga kaso ng anti-violence?

**[01:02:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000793)  
Anti-violence against women.

**[01:03:00.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000794)  
Yes.

**[01:03:01.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000795)  
There are counterpart seminars, of course, for [unclear], that is being conducted by the DND

**[01:03:09.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000796)  
under the GAD program, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:03:11.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000797)  
Yung mainam siguro, Mr. Speaker, na magkaroon din po ng mga pag-aaral seminar,

**[01:03:17.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000798)  
pag-e-ensayo tungkol sa gender rights bilang human rights.

**[01:03:21.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000799)  
Hindi naman po kasi yan dapat iwalay.

**[01:03:23.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000800)  
So, bagamat nais po natin sa gender in development,

**[01:03:27.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000801)  
bigyan din ng emphasis yung engagement, involvement,

**[01:03:31.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000802)  
at kung panong partners ang men and boys sa usapin po ng pagkakapantay-pantay.

**[01:03:37.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000803)  
At lahat po yan, nag-a-apply, hindi lang sa mga kababayan, kalalakihan,

**[01:03:42.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000804)  
pero sa lahat po ng ating gender diverse people.

**[01:03:46.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000805)  
Ngayon po, bilang panghuling katanungan, dahil alam ko po, nagtapos na ang aking oras.

**[01:03:50.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000806)  
Thank you.

**[01:03:51.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000807)  
So, bigyan niyo po ako ng pagkakataon kasi kanina pa naman po tumatakoy ang oras ko.

**[01:03:55.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000808)  
Hindi po nagpo-pause.

**[01:03:57.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000809)  
So, hinihintay natin ang ating distinguished sponsor.

**[01:04:01.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000810)  
Meron pong mga kaso ng VAUSI involving military personnel.

**[01:04:08.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000811)  
Meron po bang especifico na palisiya ang AFP, ang ating D&D personnel,

**[01:04:14.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000812)  
pagdating po sa handling na ganitong tipo ng mga kaso?

**[01:04:17.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000813)  
Pwede bang malaman kung ano yung advisory, circular, o kung ano po yung order natin na may kinalaman dito?

**[01:04:26.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000814)  
Ano pong office?

**[01:04:27.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000815)  
Yung nag-care-off ng lahat ng kaso na may kinalaman dyan.

**[01:04:31.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000816)  
Hindi lang po sa VAUSI, pero lahat po ng forma ng gender-based violence involving military and uniformed personnel

**[01:04:39.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000817)  
at lahat po ng ating mga stakeholders within the D&D.

**[01:05:19.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000822)  
Mr. Speaker, for the AFP, there is the gender-based referral system

**[01:05:27.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000825)  
the J-1.

**[01:05:29.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000826)  
So, besides that,

**[01:05:32.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000827)  
the Provo Marshal,

**[01:05:33.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000828)  
they can seek recourse to the

**[01:05:35.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000829)  
Provo Marshal Inspector General

**[01:05:36.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000830)  
and the Office of Ethical Standards.

**[01:05:39.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000831)  
That is for the AFP.

**[01:05:41.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000832)  
Maraming salamat. At tigigin po natin

**[01:05:43.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000833)  
ang kopya ng palisiyan na yan.

**[01:05:45.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000834)  
Dahil sa PNP po, meron na rin po pala silang

**[01:05:47.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000835)  
separate na policy on handling

**[01:05:49.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000836)  
bousy cases. Kasi,

**[01:05:51.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000837)  
kumbaga, mabigat po yung responsibility.

**[01:05:53.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000838)  
Meron po kayong authority, may kapangyarihan.

**[01:05:55.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000839)  
At hindi natin dapat payagan

**[01:05:56.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000840)  
na yun pa yung mga hunguna.

**[01:05:59.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000841)  
Kumbaga, yung mga enforcers natin,

**[01:06:01.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000842)  
yung mga dapat nagpoprotecta sa ating

**[01:06:03.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000843)  
mga kababayan, yung

**[01:06:04.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000844)  
na uugnay sa ganitong

**[01:06:07.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000845)  
mga mabigat na kaso,

**[01:06:09.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000846)  
mabigat na krimen ng violence against

**[01:06:11.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000847)  
women and their children. Maraming salamat

**[01:06:13.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000848)  
ng speaker, distinguished sponsor.

**[01:06:15.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000849)  
At request na lang po kung pwede

**[01:06:17.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000850)  
kayong magbigay sa amin ng

**[01:06:19.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000851)  
status report ng implementation

**[01:06:21.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000852)  
ng Expanded Maternity Leave

**[01:06:22.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000853)  
para naman po sa

**[01:06:25.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000854)  
mga military uniformed personnel

**[01:06:27.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000855)  
na kababayan. Maraming salamat.

**[01:06:29.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000856)  
Thank you very much. We just would like

**[01:06:31.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000857)  
to remind the sponsor to submit the needed

**[01:06:33.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000858)  
documents requested in the department.

**[01:06:36.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000859)  
The gentle lady.

**[01:06:38.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000860)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:06:40.000] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000861)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that we recognize

**[01:06:41.880] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000862)  
the Honorable Renee Louise M. Co

**[01:06:43.860] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000863)  
of Partylist Kabataan

**[01:06:45.740] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-000864)  
for her interpellation.

**[01:06:46.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000865)  
The gentle lady from Kabataan, Honorable

**[01:06:49.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000866)  
Congresswoman Ko,

**[01:06:51.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000867)  
recognized.

**[01:06:53.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000868)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker, at

**[01:06:55.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000869)  
magandang umaga sa ating

**[01:06:57.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000870)  
sponsor ng ahensya ngayong

**[01:06:59.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000871)  
araw. Mr. Speaker, good

**[01:07:01.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000872)  
sponsor,

**[01:07:03.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000873)  
this morning,

**[01:07:05.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000874)  
this representation received

**[01:07:07.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000875)  
a letter from the Department of National

**[01:07:09.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000876)  
Defense, ukol po doon

**[01:07:11.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000877)  
sa hingi nating datos

**[01:07:13.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000878)  
at report noong budget

**[01:07:15.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000879)  
briefing. In particular,

**[01:07:17.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000880)  
it pertains to the

**[01:07:19.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000881)  
post-operations report of the

**[01:07:21.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000882)  
Toboso incident. However,

**[01:07:24.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000883)  
our office just

**[01:07:25.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000884)  
received this one

**[01:07:26.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000885)  
page, at ang

**[01:07:29.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000886)  
nakalagay po dito sa

**[01:07:31.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000887)  
second to the last paragraph,

**[01:07:33.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000888)  
the department hereby provides the

**[01:07:35.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000889)  
requested post-operations report

**[01:07:37.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000890)  
subject to applicable security

**[01:07:38.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000891)  
and disclosure requirements.

**[01:07:40.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000892)  
Nagtanong po tayo sa courier

**[01:07:42.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000893)  
kung may iba pa pong attachment,

**[01:07:45.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000894)  
itong mukhang cover letter lang po,

**[01:07:47.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000895)  
at wala raw po.

**[01:07:49.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000896)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:07:51.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000897)  
ano pong explanation para dito?

**[01:07:54.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000898)  
Tayo po ba'y pinagloloko?

**[01:07:55.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000899)  
Bakit po, isang papel lang po ito?

**[01:07:57.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000900)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:07:59.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000901)  
we are immediately requesting

**[01:08:01.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000902)  
the document that

**[01:08:03.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000903)  
is pertained

**[01:08:05.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000904)  
to this letter

**[01:08:06.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000905)  
immediately. Mr. Speaker,

**[01:08:09.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000906)  
I would not like to proceed

**[01:08:11.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000907)  
until nakuha ko po ngayon

**[01:08:12.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000908)  
yung report na ito.

**[01:08:15.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000909)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:08:17.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000910)  
actually the Secretary of National Defense

**[01:08:19.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000911)  
is confirming that there was an

**[01:08:21.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000912)  
attachment attached to that letter.

**[01:08:23.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000913)  
We're just trying to find,

**[01:08:25.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000914)  
because it was signed by the

**[01:08:27.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000915)  
Secretary of National Defense.

**[01:08:28.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000916)  
We're trying to find the...

**[01:08:31.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000917)  
Yes po, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I confirm

**[01:08:33.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000918)  
that the Secretary did

**[01:08:34.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000919)  
indeed sign and put the seal

**[01:08:37.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000920)  
here, pero pang ilang beses po

**[01:08:39.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000921)  
namin tinanong sa courier, wala po talaga

**[01:08:41.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000922)  
tayong natanggap, wala rin po tayong natanggap

**[01:08:43.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000923)  
sa email. Mr. Speaker, I'd like

**[01:08:45.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000924)  
to request that my time be paused

**[01:08:46.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000925)  
until we receive the report

**[01:08:49.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000926)  
immediately.

**[01:08:51.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000927)  
Would it be possible

**[01:08:52.960] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000928)  
if we could ask some other questions

**[01:08:54.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000929)  
before, while

**[01:08:56.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000930)  
the Department is still

**[01:08:58.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000931)  
gathering the lacking documents

**[01:09:01.020] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000932)  
that are needed, Honorable Ko?

**[01:09:03.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000933)  
Mr. Speaker, as long as

**[01:09:05.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000934)  
may commitment po ba na kaya pong ma-provide

**[01:09:07.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000935)  
tonight, or like this

**[01:09:09.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000936)  
right now, yung

**[01:09:11.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000937)  
nire-request po na document,

**[01:09:12.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000938)  
na naka-allege naman, naka-pertain

**[01:09:15.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000939)  
naman po na nandito, yun nga lang po

**[01:09:16.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000940)  
ay wala po talagang ibang attachment

**[01:09:18.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000941)  
dito.

**[01:09:20.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000942)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, we're

**[01:09:22.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000943)  
finding the attachment,

**[01:09:24.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000944)  
now, the

**[01:09:26.900] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000945)  
Secretary is making sure that

**[01:09:28.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000946)  
this is delivered to you expediently.

**[01:09:32.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000947)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:09:34.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000948)  
for the interest of time,

**[01:09:36.940] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000949)  
siguro, sinigurus ko niyo,

**[01:09:39.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000950)  
while we're pulling up the data.

**[01:09:41.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000951)  
Okay, Mr. Speaker, I have no problem

**[01:09:42.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000952)  
with proceeding until

**[01:09:45.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000953)  
habang hinahanap po nila

**[01:09:47.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000954)  
yung dokumento,

**[01:09:48.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000955)  
but this representation would like

**[01:09:50.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000956)  
an assurance that the

**[01:09:53.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000957)  
consideration of the document is

**[01:09:54.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000958)  
of the department's budget will not

**[01:09:57.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000959)  
end or will not be terminated

**[01:09:59.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000960)  
until the report

**[01:10:00.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000961)  
is in this representation's

**[01:10:02.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000962)  
possession. Would that be possible, Mr. Speaker?

**[01:10:05.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000963)  
Would that be possible,

**[01:10:06.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000964)  
Madam Vice Chair?

**[01:10:08.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-000965)  
Yes, we'll make sure of it, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:10:11.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000966)  
Will that satisfy the good gender

**[01:10:12.820] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000967)  
lady?

**[01:10:14.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000967-split-2)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:10:15.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000968)  
this representation

**[01:10:16.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000969)  
would be satisfied and

**[01:10:18.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000970)  
will rise if at the

**[01:10:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000971)  
end of the interpellations

**[01:10:22.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000972)  
for the department, this

**[01:10:24.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000973)  
representation does not yet have

**[01:10:26.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000974)  
this report.

**[01:10:29.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000975)  
And, you know, the report can be

**[01:10:30.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000976)  
transmitted physically or via

**[01:10:32.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000977)  
email. Hindi naman po tayo

**[01:10:34.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000978)  
maarte, pero sa dulo po

**[01:10:36.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000979)  
nito gusto natin makuha yung

**[01:10:38.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000980)  
binukas naman po natin

**[01:10:40.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000981)  
ng valid sa budget briefing at ang

**[01:10:42.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000982)  
sekretary din po mismo ang nagsabi na kaya pong

**[01:10:44.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000983)  
i-provide.

**[01:10:45.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000984)  
Noted. Please continue and proceed.

**[01:10:48.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000985)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and of course

**[01:10:50.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000986)  
we're extending the

**[01:10:52.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000987)  
um

**[01:10:53.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000988)  
um

**[01:10:53.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000989)  
um

**[01:10:53.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000990)  
um

**[01:10:54.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000991)  
, the courtesy and the benefit

**[01:10:56.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000992)  
of the doubt to the department

**[01:10:58.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000993)  
sa misunderstanding na po ito.

**[01:11:00.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000994)  
We hope that it is resolved as soon as possible.

**[01:11:03.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000995)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:11:05.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000996)  
I move on to my second line

**[01:11:06.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000997)  
of questioning for now.

**[01:11:08.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000998)  
This representation would like to confirm,

**[01:11:10.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000999)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:11:12.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001000)  
the answer of our

**[01:11:14.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001001)  
Secretary Gibo during the committee

**[01:11:16.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001002)  
hearings when we asked about

**[01:11:18.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001003)  
the current use of drones

**[01:11:20.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001004)  
in the Philippines.

**[01:11:22.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001005)  
At least when noong ito po'y

**[01:11:24.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001006)  
sinagot kami, they are

**[01:11:26.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001007)  
as reported,

**[01:11:28.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001008)  
all for surveillance use

**[01:11:30.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001009)  
and not for offensive purposes.

**[01:11:32.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001010)  
Is this still accurate as of this moment,

**[01:11:34.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001011)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[01:11:39.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001012)  
Yes, that's accurate, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:11:42.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001013)  
And drones are primarily

**[01:11:43.670] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001014)  
used for surveillance and not

**[01:11:44.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001015)  
for combat because of the lack of specific

**[01:11:46.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001016)  
guidelines as alleged

**[01:11:49.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001017)  
in our budget briefing. Is this

**[01:11:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001018)  
correct, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[01:11:52.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001019)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:11:54.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001020)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, akong kinukumpurima

**[01:11:56.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001021)  
po ng ahensya na ang

**[01:11:58.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001022)  
militar, that the military is not

**[01:12:00.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001023)  
capable of drone combat as of now

**[01:12:02.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001024)  
and there are no specific guidelines

**[01:12:04.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001025)  
regarding its use, can the agency

**[01:12:07.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001026)  
explain to this representation

**[01:12:08.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001027)  
about pictures and drones

**[01:12:10.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001028)  
circulating online, about

**[01:12:12.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001029)  
the usage of drones

**[01:12:15.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001030)  
in combat zones

**[01:12:16.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001031)  
in Barangay Bialong, Tugunan,

**[01:12:19.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001032)  
in SGA

**[01:12:20.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001033)  
Barm or Special Geographic Area

**[01:12:22.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001034)  
Barm? Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:12:40.650] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001035)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:12:43.190] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001036)  
the Department of National Defense and the AFP

**[01:12:45.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001037)  
is tracing

**[01:12:47.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001038)  
the source of those drones

**[01:12:48.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001039)  
because as of now, the AFP

**[01:12:50.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001040)  
does not possess the capability to

**[01:12:52.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001041)  
operate those drones.

**[01:12:54.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001042)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:12:58.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001043)  
we can transmit this video

**[01:13:00.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001044)  
para po ma-check

**[01:13:02.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001045)  
pero

**[01:13:03.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001046)  
dito po sa

**[01:13:06.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001047)  
page called One Nationalist

**[01:13:09.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001048)  
ang nakalagay po

**[01:13:10.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001049)  
na description ay

**[01:13:11.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001050)  
first confirmed kill by AFP units

**[01:13:14.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001051)  
using drones to drop

**[01:13:16.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001052)  
mortar rounds against terrorists

**[01:13:18.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001053)  
BFF positions in

**[01:13:20.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001054)  
Barangay Manaulan

**[01:13:22.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001055)  
and Bialong, Tugunan, Cotabato.

**[01:13:24.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001056)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:13:26.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001057)  
would there be

**[01:13:27.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001058)  
an explanation from the AFP

**[01:13:29.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001059)  
regarding

**[01:13:30.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001060)  
this

**[01:13:33.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001061)  
video, this appearance

**[01:13:35.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001062)  
of a drone that is dropping

**[01:13:38.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001063)  
mortar rounds?

**[01:13:42.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001064)  
Mr. Speaker, the AFP

**[01:13:43.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001065)  
denies ownership

**[01:13:45.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001066)  
of the drone operations.

**[01:13:48.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001067)  
So the AFP

**[01:13:50.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001068)  
is denying that this

**[01:13:51.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001069)  
is a video

**[01:13:53.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001070)  
of

**[01:13:54.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001071)  
an operation

**[01:13:56.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001072)  
of a drone operator

**[01:13:58.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001073)  
and footage

**[01:13:59.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001074)  
of a bombing

**[01:14:03.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001075)  
that happens

**[01:14:04.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001076)  
because of the

**[01:14:06.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001077)  
operation. So the AFP is denying

**[01:14:08.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001078)  
this, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:14:14.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001079)  
Yes, the AFP denies,

**[01:14:16.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001080)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[01:14:18.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001081)  
Mr. Speaker, let it be

**[01:14:20.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001082)  
on record that AFP has

**[01:14:22.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001083)  
denied the incident, but nonetheless,

**[01:14:24.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001084)  
as the

**[01:14:26.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001085)  
department

**[01:14:28.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001086)  
mentioned that

**[01:14:30.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001087)  
investigation is ongoing,

**[01:14:33.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001088)  
may I confirm that

**[01:14:34.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001089)  
the AFP or the department

**[01:14:36.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001090)  
is aware of the use

**[01:14:38.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001091)  
of a drone in relation

**[01:14:41.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001092)  
to

**[01:14:41.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001093)  
against

**[01:14:44.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001094)  
terrorists BFF in

**[01:14:46.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001095)  
Cotabato?

**[01:14:49.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001096)  
The AFP

**[01:14:50.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001097)  
is aware, Mr.

**[01:14:53.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001098)  
Speaker, is conducting

**[01:14:54.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001099)  
also investigations with

**[01:14:56.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001100)  
regards to the source

**[01:14:58.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001101)  
of these drones.

**[01:15:00.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001102)  
operations that are being conducted

**[01:15:02.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001103)  
in their name, but again, the AFP

**[01:15:03.980] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001104)  
denies conducting

**[01:15:06.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001105)  
these said operations.

**[01:15:08.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001106)  
Mr. Speaker. Is the

**[01:15:09.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001107)  
department aware that

**[01:15:11.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001108)  
if other government

**[01:15:14.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001109)  
agencies

**[01:15:15.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001110)  
or non-Philippine government agencies

**[01:15:18.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001111)  
may be behind

**[01:15:19.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001112)  
the use of this drone, like the

**[01:15:21.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001113)  
United States?

**[01:15:39.760] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001114)  
Yes, the department

**[01:15:40.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001115)  
is still conducting the investigations

**[01:15:43.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001116)  
as to the supposed

**[01:15:44.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001117)  
perpetrators of these

**[01:15:46.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001118)  
drone operations, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:15:49.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001119)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:15:53.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001120)  
We'd like to request

**[01:15:55.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001121)  
a copy of

**[01:15:56.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001122)  
the report of the investigation

**[01:15:59.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001123)  
to be released

**[01:15:59.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001124)  
finish tungkol po dito sa

**[01:16:02.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001125)  
nakikita nating

**[01:16:03.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001126)  
use of drones in combat zones.

**[01:16:08.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001127)  
Hindi naman po

**[01:16:09.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001128)  
ito siyempre simpleng

**[01:16:10.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001129)  
maaaring mak-procure lang ng kung sino.

**[01:16:14.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001130)  
Gusto natin we get to the

**[01:16:15.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001131)  
bottom of, as of now,

**[01:16:17.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001132)  
may policy or at least

**[01:16:19.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001133)  
may pagbubukas sa atin

**[01:16:21.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001134)  
na wala pang guidelines

**[01:16:23.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001135)  
sa paggamit ng drones. It's all for surveillance.

**[01:16:25.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001136)  
Wala pang pang combat. And here

**[01:16:27.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001137)  
comes a video na

**[01:16:28.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001138)  
our drones are being used for

**[01:16:31.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001139)  
combat. And by the way, Mr. Speaker, good

**[01:16:32.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001140)  
sponsor, on our research, it would

**[01:16:35.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001141)  
seem that the hardware

**[01:16:36.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001142)  
is Elbit Systems

**[01:16:38.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001143)  
Thor Mini Vertical Takeoff and

**[01:16:40.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001144)  
Landing Quadcopter.

**[01:16:43.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001145)  
We've noted it has also

**[01:16:44.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001146)  
been used by the United States

**[01:16:46.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001147)  
in their operations

**[01:16:48.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001148)  
against Palestine and Iran. So, Mr.

**[01:16:50.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001149)  
Speaker, good sponsor, whether there is

**[01:16:52.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001150)  
a confirmation from the department or not,

**[01:16:55.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001151)  
it's still troublesome that

**[01:16:56.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001152)  
we do not have access to after-action

**[01:16:58.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001153)  
reports of any military operations.

**[01:17:01.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001154)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, I'd like to

**[01:17:02.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001155)  
confirm, maybe first and foremost, meron po

**[01:17:04.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001156)  
bang recent military operations

**[01:17:06.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001157)  
sa SGA BARM

**[01:17:08.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001158)  
na nangyari, particularly

**[01:17:10.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001159)  
in Cotabato.

**[01:17:33.430] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001160)  
And by the way, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:17:35.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001161)  
I am holding

**[01:17:37.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001162)  
in my hand also the

**[01:17:38.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001163)  
report that

**[01:17:41.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001164)  
was supposedly the attachment

**[01:17:42.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001165)  
to this cover letter.

**[01:17:45.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001166)  
And this representation

**[01:17:46.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001167)  
will

**[01:17:48.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001168)  
conduct further

**[01:17:51.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001169)  
research on the

**[01:17:53.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001170)  
provided report. Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:17:55.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001171)  
we appreciate the transmittal of the report.

**[01:17:58.720] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001172)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:18:00.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001173)  
the AFP confirms that there are

**[01:18:02.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001174)  
operations within the area

**[01:18:04.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001175)  
but no drone operations.

**[01:18:07.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001176)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[01:18:09.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001177)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:18:10.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001178)  
to confirm,

**[01:18:12.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001179)  
yung operations na po ito

**[01:18:14.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001180)  
ay ano pong

**[01:18:15.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001181)  
span of time

**[01:18:18.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001182)  
or dates or

**[01:18:20.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001183)  
kung kailan po ito nangyari?

**[01:18:22.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001184)  
Did it happen

**[01:18:23.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001185)  
when po, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[01:18:28.720] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001186)  
The AFP says

**[01:18:32.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001187)  
two days ago, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:18:35.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001188)  
Two days ago. And is it still active, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:18:37.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001189)  
good sponsor?

**[01:18:40.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001190)  
Sorry.

**[01:18:41.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001191)  
It's an active operation.

**[01:18:43.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001192)  
Hindi pa po tapos?

**[01:18:45.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001193)  
Tapos na po.

**[01:18:47.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001194)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, may this

**[01:18:49.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001195)  
representation receive

**[01:18:50.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001196)  
an after-action report in relation

**[01:18:53.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001197)  
to

**[01:18:53.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001198)  
the operation

**[01:18:56.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001199)  
that was conducted in SGABARM.

**[01:18:58.720] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001200)  
Yes, the department

**[01:19:01.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001201)  
will comply, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:19:03.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001202)  
Okay. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:19:05.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001203)  
the current

**[01:19:07.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001204)  
guideline or the current policy

**[01:19:09.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001205)  
from the department at least

**[01:19:11.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001206)  
ay wala pa pong

**[01:19:12.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001207)  
guidelines

**[01:19:15.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001208)  
at wala pa pong combat drones

**[01:19:17.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001209)  
and this representation

**[01:19:19.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001210)  
is at least not yet satisfied

**[01:19:21.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001211)  
dahil may nakikita tayong evidence

**[01:19:22.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001212)  
to the contrary. Pero

**[01:19:25.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001213)  
yung hintayin po natin yung report

**[01:19:26.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001214)  
na sinabi nga po.

**[01:19:28.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001215)  
Ang huli na lang po nating mga linya

**[01:19:30.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001216)  
ng katanungan ay tungkol po

**[01:19:32.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001217)  
sa mga

**[01:19:34.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001218)  
partnerships that

**[01:19:36.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001219)  
the Armed Forces of the Philippines or the

**[01:19:38.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001220)  
department has, have

**[01:19:40.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001221)  
with schools. Meron

**[01:19:42.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001222)  
po bang mga

**[01:19:44.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001223)  
partnerships?

**[01:19:46.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001224)  
Ang AFP or the DND

**[01:19:48.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001225)  
with schools. Similar po

**[01:19:50.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001226)  
to the UP-AFP agreement.

**[01:19:53.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001227)  
At ilan po sila, Mr.

**[01:19:54.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001228)  
Speaker, good sponsor?

**[01:21:01.950] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001253)  
Mr. Speaker, there have been previous partnerships, but these relate to R&D projects, research and development, and scholarship programs. Mr. Speaker.

**[01:21:16.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001254)  
Ilan po ang active partnerships ng AFP and DND sa mga universidad o mga paaralan na ganun po ang nature, Mr. Speaker? Good sponsor.

**[01:21:28.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001255)  
Because we have noted, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. Other than the University of the Philippines, there is one such agreement as well with Ateneo de Manila University, and to our knowledge, ang Kalinga State University as well. Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:21:56.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001256)  
For partnerships regarding scholarships.

**[01:21:58.720] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001257)  
Mr. Speaker, as of now, there are 230 active partnerships with the DND.

**[01:22:07.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001258)  
For research and development, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:22:14.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001259)  
We're just, the department is trying to find the data, but we will furnish a copy to our distinguished colleague regarding the R&D.

**[01:22:24.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001260)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. Iintay na lang din po natin yung ulat.

**[01:22:28.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001261)  
Sana po hindi rin po mawala yung content at cover letter lang din yung mabigay sa listahan po ng mga paaralan na meron pong partnerships ang UP and DND, whether that be scholarships or research and development, at yung mga kopya rin po ng mga agreements na ito.

**[01:22:47.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001262)  
Would that be possible, Mr. Speaker? Good sponsor.

**[01:22:49.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001263)  
Yes, the department will comply, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:22:50.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001264)  
Thank you. May I ask then, do these agreements require personnel to show up on campus?

**[01:22:58.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001265)  
Kung scholarship po ba, oo. Is that the case? How about for research and development?

**[01:23:24.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001266)  
That would depend on the particular project, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:23:28.720] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001267)  
Whether or not military personnel would be asked to attend.

**[01:23:34.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001268)  
Okay. Kaya kung maaari din po ay ma-flag din po yun doon sa magiging report na magagawa kung alin po doon ang may pangailangan ng continuous or kung hindi man yun regular na presence in campuses.

**[01:23:49.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001269)  
Because we'd like to flag an incident, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:23:55.550] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001270)  
an incident involving the Philippine Air Force and student activists

**[01:24:01.910] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001271)  
of UST, which led to the continuous harassment and red-tagging of student leaders.

**[01:24:04.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001272)  
Not surprising, Professor Marlion Villarin, which I've brought up earlier when we interpolated the budget of the National Security Council,

**[01:24:17.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001273)  
as he wrote an article in the NSC Journal on terror grooming.

**[01:24:22.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001274)  
He issued misogynist and red-tagging statements against student activist Raven Rosales,

**[01:24:27.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001275)  
who the Secretary of the Department, Chodoro, may be familiar with because in an interview, he himself discredited Ms. Rosales' advocacy.

**[01:24:43.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001276)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, if I may just quote ang nasabi po ng ating Department Secretary tungkol po doon,

**[01:24:52.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001277)  
ay sinabi po niya na nambabastos lang siya.

**[01:24:57.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001278)  
At nalaman natin,

**[01:24:57.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001279)  
walong taon, first-year college daw ang estudyante, palipat-lipat,

**[01:25:02.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001280)  
which Ms. Rosales has already rebutted publicly.

**[01:25:07.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001281)  
But we'd like to put forward po that it does not fail to catch our attention, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:25:15.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001282)  
that an individual like Professor Marlion Villarin has continuously harassed the student leader publicly

**[01:25:25.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001283)  
and,

**[01:25:25.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001284)  
and,

**[01:25:27.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001285)  
was emboldened by this statement to file a disciplinary case against Ms. Rosales for protesting the presence of military personnel in the university

**[01:25:38.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001286)  
as their exercise of academic freedom, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:25:43.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001287)  
Siguro ang tanong ko na lang po, can the Department and good sponsor shed some light on this incident?

**[01:25:49.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001288)  
And if this is, in fact, an appropriate behavior of a Department Secretary to a scholar,

**[01:25:57.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001289)  
a student na gusto po natin na hindi na pipigilan sa iba't-ibang mga paraan ng pag-ehersisyo niya ng karapatan, kalayaan,

**[01:26:06.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001290)  
and instead, you know, engaged in, you know, debate and not demeaning behavior.

**[01:26:45.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001296)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:26:48.570] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001297)  
The statement of the Secretary of National Defense came from, was resulted from him seeing

**[01:26:59.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001302)  
the footage of

**[01:27:00.550] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001303)  
Philippine Air Force personnel

**[01:27:02.990] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001304)  
being harassed.

**[01:27:04.870] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001305)  
So,

**[01:27:05.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001306)  
that is the

**[01:27:06.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001307)  
basis

**[01:27:09.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001308)  
for the statement that he made.

**[01:27:11.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001309)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[01:27:12.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001310)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor. At the end

**[01:27:15.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001311)  
of the day,

**[01:27:17.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001312)  
ang militansyang

**[01:27:19.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001313)  
pag-assert ng paniniwala

**[01:27:22.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001314)  
ni Raven Reselis

**[01:27:23.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001315)  
to my belief, hindi rin po

**[01:27:25.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001316)  
nakawarant ng ganong klaseng mga

**[01:27:27.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001317)  
salita na binitawan

**[01:27:29.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001318)  
sana ng isang department secretary

**[01:27:31.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001319)  
against a student.

**[01:27:33.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001320)  
Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, we note

**[01:27:35.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001321)  
the continuing pattern

**[01:27:37.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001322)  
of heightened military

**[01:27:39.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001323)  
presence in campuses

**[01:27:41.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001324)  
which creates

**[01:27:43.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001325)  
a chilling effect

**[01:27:45.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001326)  
among students who would like

**[01:27:47.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001327)  
to continuously

**[01:27:48.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001328)  
exhibit their freedoms

**[01:27:51.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001329)  
of expression, of

**[01:27:53.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001330)  
assembly, but

**[01:27:54.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001331)  
amongst

**[01:27:55.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001332)  
the different forms

**[01:27:57.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001333)  
of harassment and intimidation

**[01:27:59.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001334)  
that they face in a day inside

**[01:28:01.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001335)  
universities, which would include

**[01:28:03.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001336)  
not only red-tagging by various

**[01:28:05.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001337)  
forces, included na rin din po

**[01:28:07.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001338)  
dito yung nakikita sa social media,

**[01:28:09.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001339)  
and the presence of

**[01:28:11.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001340)  
state forces, which

**[01:28:13.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001341)  
is essentially the crystallization

**[01:28:15.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001342)  
of

**[01:28:16.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001343)  
force, actual force

**[01:28:19.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001344)  
na pwedeng ma-implement sa isang

**[01:28:21.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001345)  
tao, sa isang komunidad.

**[01:28:23.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001346)  
That creates an

**[01:28:25.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001347)  
atmosphere of fear, which

**[01:28:26.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001348)  
Ms. Ravis Rosales and other activists

**[01:28:29.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001349)  
are just pushing back against.

**[01:28:31.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001350)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[01:28:33.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001351)  
this is just a manifestation

**[01:28:35.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001352)  
kung paano tuloy-tuloy

**[01:28:37.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001353)  
na in the

**[01:28:39.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001354)  
heightened

**[01:28:40.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001355)  
atmosphere of campus militarization,

**[01:28:44.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001356)  
nawawala po

**[01:28:45.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001357)  
ang kakayahan ng mga

**[01:28:47.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001358)  
ibang-ibang kabataan na

**[01:28:49.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001359)  
tuloy-tuloy na panghawakan

**[01:28:51.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001360)  
yung mga ganitong karapatan at kalayaan nila.

**[01:28:54.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001361)  
Nonetheless, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:28:55.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001362)  
good sponsor,

**[01:28:56.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001363)  
for now,

**[01:28:59.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001364)  
we would like to wait for the different

**[01:29:01.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001365)  
requests that this

**[01:29:03.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001366)  
representation put forth.

**[01:29:06.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001367)  
At sa dulo po nito,

**[01:29:07.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001368)  
gusto natin na

**[01:29:09.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001369)  
ang mga ating

**[01:29:11.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001370)  
higher educational institutions and even

**[01:29:13.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001371)  
schools, zones of peace sila.

**[01:29:16.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001372)  
And as according

**[01:29:17.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001373)  
to international

**[01:29:18.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001374)  
agreements,

**[01:29:21.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001375)  
it is not a place

**[01:29:23.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001376)  
for the military to serve as security

**[01:29:25.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001377)  
forces therein. But

**[01:29:27.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001378)  
sa pinakamaari

**[01:29:29.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001379)  
ay hindi military and police

**[01:29:31.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001380)  
free ang mga espasyon na ito.

**[01:29:34.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001381)  
That's all, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[01:29:35.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001382)  
Thank you very much for answering

**[01:29:37.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001383)  
our interpellations. And again, we have received

**[01:29:39.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-001384)  
the file. Thank you.

**[01:29:40.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-001385)  
Thank you very much, Majority Leader.

**[01:29:44.580] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-001386)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:29:45.640] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-001387)  
I move that we recognize the Honorable

**[01:29:47.440] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-001388)  
Antonio L. Tinio

**[01:29:49.700] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-001389)  
of Partylist Act Teachers

**[01:29:51.460] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-001390)  
for his interpellation.

**[01:29:53.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-001391)  
The gentleman from

**[01:29:55.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-001392)  
Act Teachers, Representative

**[01:29:56.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-001393)  
Antonio Tinio, is recognized.

**[01:30:00.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-001394)  
Please proceed.

**[01:30:05.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001395)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:30:08.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001396)  
May mga ilang topic po tayo, sikapin nating pagkasahin sa imitadong oras ng interpolation.

**[01:30:14.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001397)  
Una, meron po tayong slide tungkol sa AFP Modernization Program.

**[01:30:22.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001398)  
So, ito po yung appropriations for AFP Modernization from 2013 up to the proposed for 2027.

**[01:30:32.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001399)  
Yung 2027 proposal ay 50 billion pesos.

**[01:30:38.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001400)  
So, kung susumahin po from 2013 to 2027, total appropriations for AFP Modernization are at

**[01:30:50.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001402)  
469.393 billion pesos.

**[01:31:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001403)  
Kung isasama pa natin yung for 2027, then it will be 489.5 billion.

**[01:31:06.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001404)  
So, ganun po yung halaga ng AFP Modernization.

**[01:31:13.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001405)  
For 2027, the proposed is 50 billion.

**[01:31:21.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001406)  
Meron pa po bang...

**[01:31:22.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001407)  
Para sa DND, ito ba ay sapat na or may hinihingi pa silang dagdag?

**[01:31:29.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001408)  
Hindi po sapat ang 50 billion, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:31:34.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001409)  
As a matter of fact, ang kailangan po talaga for the AFP Modernization Program for Fiscal

**[01:31:41.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001410)  
Year 2027 is 126.96 billion.

**[01:31:47.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001411)  
Kung pwede po ako magbigay ng detalye.

**[01:31:51.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001412)  
For Horizon 2 and Horizon 3 projects with existing multi-year contracts pa lang,

**[01:31:57.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001465)  
plus yung additional MCAs na kailangan nating i-service for 2027, 35 billion na po yung kailangan natin.

**[01:32:07.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001466)  
So nakain na po yung 35 out of the 50 billion na i-allocate for the

**[01:32:13.630] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001479)  
modernization program.

**[01:32:17.270] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001480)  
Plus, yung existing multi-year contracts

**[01:32:19.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001481)  
due ng 2026 under the GAAA,

**[01:32:24.280] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001482)  
21.2 billion na po yun.

**[01:32:27.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001483)  
So, kung tinatotal nyo po,

**[01:32:29.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001484)  
35 plus 21, 56 billion actually,

**[01:32:33.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001485)  
kulang pa po tayo sa pagsaservice pa lang

**[01:32:35.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001486)  
ng multi-year contracts under the AFP modernization program.

**[01:32:40.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001487)  
Okay, noted po.

**[01:32:41.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001488)  
My concern in raising this is,

**[01:32:45.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001489)  
first of all, transparency.

**[01:32:47.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001490)  
Or, actually, the lack of public transparency

**[01:32:50.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001491)  
in the use of AFP modernization funds.

**[01:32:54.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001492)  
So, mahigit kumulang kalahating trilyon

**[01:32:57.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001493)  
ang na-appropriate over more than a decade

**[01:33:02.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001494)  
of the AFP modernization program.

**[01:33:05.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001495)  
Pero, wala pong publicly available

**[01:33:08.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001496)  
kung sa website, halimbawa,

**[01:33:11.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001497)  
ng AFP organization,

**[01:33:11.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001498)  
or DND,

**[01:33:13.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001499)  
there are no publicly available references

**[01:33:17.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001500)  
on how these are used.

**[01:33:19.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001501)  
So, yun ang unang obserbasyon natin.

**[01:33:20.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001502)  
Kung itatanong ng ordinaryong Pilipino,

**[01:33:22.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001503)  
saan pa ginamit?

**[01:33:24.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001504)  
Yung kalahating trilyong piso na yan,

**[01:33:29.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001505)  
walang madaling reference.

**[01:33:30.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001506)  
In fact, the only readily available ones

**[01:33:33.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001507)  
are private blogs,

**[01:33:36.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001508)  
like probably some of you know,

**[01:33:38.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001509)  
yung Max Defense blog.

**[01:33:40.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001510)  
No?

**[01:33:41.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001511)  
So, yun, kumukuha sila from open source.

**[01:33:45.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001512)  
Yung sabihin, mga news articles and so on.

**[01:33:48.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001513)  
Mas importante po, dapat,

**[01:33:49.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001514)  
opisyal na galing sa DND.

**[01:33:51.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001515)  
Pero, wala.

**[01:33:52.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001516)  
So, yun yung una.

**[01:33:53.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001517)  
Pangalawa,

**[01:33:54.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001518)  
even in the GAA,

**[01:34:00.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001519)  
there is a reporting requirement.

**[01:34:04.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001520)  
Very limited na nga yung reporting requirement

**[01:34:06.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001521)  
with regard to the lump sum fund

**[01:34:10.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001522)  
known as the revised AFP

**[01:34:11.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001523)  
modernization program fund.

**[01:34:14.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001534)  
Nandito yung 50 billion, SPF sya, no?

**[01:34:17.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001535)  
Special provision.

**[01:34:18.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001536)  
The AFP shall submit quarterly reports

**[01:34:21.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001537)  
on its financial and physical accomplishments

**[01:34:24.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001538)  
through the URS or other electronic means

**[01:34:27.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001539)  
for reports, etc., etc.

**[01:34:31.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001540)  
Likewise, the AFP shall post said reports

**[01:34:35.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001541)  
on its website.

**[01:34:36.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001542)  
Kung titignan po natin yung website

**[01:34:38.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001543)  
ay very spotty po

**[01:34:41.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001544)  
ang compliance

**[01:34:43.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001545)  
sa reporting na ito.

**[01:34:45.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001546)  
Physical and financial reports.

**[01:34:48.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001547)  
Wala ka masyadong makukuha dyan.

**[01:34:50.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001548)  
Financial reports,

**[01:34:52.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001549)  
ano lang yun, yung

**[01:34:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001550)  
obligation,

**[01:34:55.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001551)  
disbursement, and so on.

**[01:34:59.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001552)  
Rates.

**[01:35:01.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001553)  
Accomplishment reports, asabihin lang doon.

**[01:35:04.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001554)  
Percentage of

**[01:35:05.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001555)  
physical

**[01:35:07.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001556)  
targets accomplished.

**[01:35:09.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001557)  
100%.

**[01:35:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001558)  
Ganun na yun. Tapos, certified by the

**[01:35:13.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001559)  
whoever is the accountable official.

**[01:35:16.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001560)  
So, even this

**[01:35:17.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001561)  
limited requirement for transparency

**[01:35:19.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001562)  
ay kulang po.

**[01:35:21.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001563)  
Supposedly, quarterly and posted to the internet.

**[01:35:23.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001564)  
Kung titignan natin,

**[01:35:25.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001565)  
we have data until

**[01:35:27.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001566)  
as far back as 2014,

**[01:35:29.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001567)  
pero kung dito na lang sa 2023,

**[01:35:31.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001568)  
dapat quarterly, pero ang

**[01:35:33.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001569)  
nakapost lang, Q4.

**[01:35:36.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001570)  
2024,

**[01:35:37.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001571)  
Q1, Q2.

**[01:35:39.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001572)  
2025, Q4.

**[01:35:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001573)  
2026, Q1, Q2.

**[01:35:43.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001574)  
So, kahit po ito,

**[01:35:45.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001575)  
hindi nagko-comply

**[01:35:46.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001576)  
ang AFP

**[01:35:48.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001577)  
sa posting.

**[01:35:51.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001578)  
Does the

**[01:35:52.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001579)  
DND confirm na hindi kayo nakakapag-comply

**[01:35:55.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001580)  
sa legal requirement?

**[01:36:10.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001581)  
We'll address the reports

**[01:36:14.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001582)  
first. The DND

**[01:36:16.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001583)  
submits reports regarding the

**[01:36:18.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001584)  
AFP modernization program to the

**[01:36:20.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001585)  
Congress, Senate,

**[01:36:22.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001586)  
and to the President. So,

**[01:36:24.180] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001587)  
at least dun po, the DND continually

**[01:36:26.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001588)  
complies with those reportorial requirements.

**[01:36:28.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001589)  
With regards to

**[01:36:30.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001590)  
the quarterly reporting,

**[01:36:33.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001591)  
hindi po kasi every quarter

**[01:36:36.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001592)  
may mga nabibiling bagong

**[01:36:37.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001593)  
equipment under the AFP modernization program.

**[01:36:40.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001594)  
So, that would

**[01:36:41.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001595)  
be a reason for why

**[01:36:44.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001596)  
periodic lang po yung

**[01:36:47.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001597)  
pag-publish

**[01:36:48.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001598)  
dun po sa website, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:36:51.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001599)  
Well, as I said,

**[01:36:52.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001600)  
nagsasubmit sa Presidente,

**[01:36:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001601)  
sa Kongreso, etc., pero malinaw na

**[01:36:56.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001602)  
sinasabi rito. Likewise,

**[01:36:58.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001603)  
the AFP shall post said reports on its

**[01:37:00.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001604)  
website. Okay?

**[01:37:02.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001605)  
So,

**[01:37:04.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001606)  
can we get a commitment na may

**[01:37:06.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001607)  
magkakaroon ng compliance dito?

**[01:37:10.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001608)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:37:17.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001609)  
regarding this,

**[01:37:18.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001610)  
the reporting in the

**[01:37:20.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001611)  
official website, may

**[01:37:22.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001612)  
operational security requirements po kasi.

**[01:37:24.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001613)  
Also, some of these documents

**[01:37:26.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001614)  
are classified. It might compromise

**[01:37:28.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001615)  
the security position of the Philippine government.

**[01:37:30.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001616)  
No, yung,

**[01:37:32.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001617)  
ito na naman tayo, invoking

**[01:37:34.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001618)  
national security

**[01:37:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001619)  
classified, confidential, etc.

**[01:37:39.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001620)  
Hindi po. These are just

**[01:37:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001621)  
financial and physical reports.

**[01:37:43.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001622)  
Wala pong detalya yan.

**[01:37:45.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001623)  
If you've seen one,

**[01:37:46.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001624)  
if you look at it, walang detalya.

**[01:37:48.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001625)  
These are just numbers

**[01:37:50.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001626)  
and obligation rates and so on.

**[01:37:53.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001627)  
Wala pong,

**[01:37:54.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001628)  
you know, knee-jerk na eh,

**[01:37:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001629)  
na classified.

**[01:37:59.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001630)  
Yun nga ang problema natin,

**[01:38:00.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001631)  
the lack of transparency.

**[01:38:04.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001632)  
And regardless,

**[01:38:05.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001633)  
required siya ng Kongreso.

**[01:38:06.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001634)  
So, kung may concern ng,

**[01:38:08.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001635)  
required siya ng batas, if I may say,

**[01:38:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001636)  
no, if the DND

**[01:38:12.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001637)  
has a problem with that, then,

**[01:38:15.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001638)  
well, they have to

**[01:38:16.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001639)  
comply nevertheless.

**[01:38:19.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001640)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:38:20.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001641)  
The department will look into

**[01:38:22.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001642)  
how else we could be more

**[01:38:24.540] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001643)  
transparent and divulge more information,

**[01:38:27.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001644)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[01:38:28.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001645)  
Okay. Well, yun po.

**[01:38:30.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001646)  
Very low

**[01:38:31.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001647)  
level of transparency.

**[01:38:35.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001648)  
Therefore,

**[01:38:36.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001649)  
ang concern natin, yung issues

**[01:38:38.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001650)  
ng accountability,

**[01:38:39.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001651)  
you know, especially,

**[01:38:40.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001652)  
corruption.

**[01:38:41.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001653)  
Yung mga public works,

**[01:38:43.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001654)  
projects, and contracts

**[01:38:44.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001655)  
are under,

**[01:38:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001656)  
you know, a lot of public scrutiny,

**[01:38:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001657)  
rightly so,

**[01:38:50.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001658)  
not so for defense contracts.

**[01:38:53.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001659)  
Partly because of this

**[01:38:54.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001660)  
lack of transparency

**[01:38:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001661)  
within the DND.

**[01:39:02.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001662)  
So, ang

**[01:39:02.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001663)  
pinakahuling na balita

**[01:39:04.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001664)  
siguro sa publiko, yung

**[01:39:06.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001665)  
controversy regarding

**[01:39:08.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001666)  
the Navy frigate procurement,

**[01:39:10.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001667)  
nung nakarang administration pa yun.

**[01:39:12.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001668)  
No?

**[01:39:13.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001669)  
Pero, again, as I said,

**[01:39:15.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001670)  
generally, wala, kasi wala masyadong

**[01:39:17.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001671)  
information. So, anyway, let me move on.

**[01:39:20.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001672)  
Marami pa pong topics.

**[01:39:23.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001673)  
Pension fund.

**[01:39:25.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001674)  
The AFP,

**[01:39:26.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001675)  
Military and Uniform Personnel Pensions.

**[01:39:30.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001676)  
So, again, meron tayong

**[01:39:31.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001677)  
data.

**[01:39:36.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001678)  
Yan po. Again, tinotal natin

**[01:39:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001679)  
from 2014 to the proposed for

**[01:39:40.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001680)  
2027

**[01:39:41.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001681)  
na pondo para sa

**[01:39:43.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001682)  
MUP. Pensions.

**[01:39:47.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001683)  
For 2026, it's

**[01:39:49.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001684)  
145 billion. Total na po

**[01:39:51.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001685)  
MUP ito, no?

**[01:39:53.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001686)  
And then, 154B

**[01:39:55.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001687)  
for

**[01:39:56.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001688)  
2027.

**[01:39:59.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001689)  
Kung ito total natin yan,

**[01:40:02.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001690)  
yung buo na yan, it's not there,

**[01:40:04.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001691)  
but I have totaled it, 1.295

**[01:40:06.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001692)  
trillion.

**[01:40:06.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001693)  
No? In the past

**[01:40:09.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001694)  
more than one decade,

**[01:40:10.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001695)  
1.295 trillion.

**[01:40:12.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001696)  
So, if you recall, yung

**[01:40:15.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001697)  
more or less one decade

**[01:40:17.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001698)  
ng AFP modernization

**[01:40:19.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001699)  
is

**[01:40:20.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001700)  
469 billion.

**[01:40:22.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001701)  
Yung sa pension, MUP,

**[01:40:24.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001702)  
1.295 trillion. So, more than double.

**[01:40:27.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001703)  
No?

**[01:40:28.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001704)  
Thus, the

**[01:40:29.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001705)  
matagal na pong issue to.

**[01:40:33.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001706)  
No?

**[01:40:34.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001707)  
Unang term ko pa lang sa kongreso, way back in

**[01:40:36.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001708)  
2009, pinag-uusapan na yan.

**[01:40:38.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001709)  
And even at

**[01:40:40.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001710)  
the time, sabi na ng economic

**[01:40:42.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001711)  
managers, the

**[01:40:44.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001712)  
pension bill

**[01:40:45.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001713)  
is

**[01:40:48.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001714)  
already becoming an

**[01:40:49.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001715)  
unsustainable

**[01:40:51.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001716)  
fiscal

**[01:40:52.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001717)  
budgetary burden. No?

**[01:40:56.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001718)  
Sumasangayon ba ang DND

**[01:40:58.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001719)  
sa ganong suri?

**[01:41:01.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001720)  
No? Na talagang

**[01:41:02.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001721)  
napakabigat na ng

**[01:41:03.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001722)  
budgetary requirement nito para sa GAA.

**[01:41:07.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001723)  
Yes,

**[01:41:08.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001724)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:41:10.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001725)  
the DND

**[01:41:11.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001726)  
believes that the proposed pension

**[01:41:15.060] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001727)  
reform should be studied.

**[01:41:16.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001728)  
Should be studied?

**[01:41:18.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001729)  
Yeah, it needs further study.

**[01:41:20.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001730)  
It needs further study.

**[01:41:22.800] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001731)  
It needs further study.

**[01:41:24.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001732)  
And the DND

**[01:41:26.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001733)  
stance is that the AFP should be segregated

**[01:41:29.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001734)  
from civilian

**[01:41:30.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001735)  
uniform services in any burden-sharing

**[01:41:33.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001736)  
scheme. The DND is

**[01:41:35.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001737)  
open to reforming the

**[01:41:37.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001738)  
current pension scheme.

**[01:41:39.480] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001739)  
So,

**[01:41:40.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001740)  
it really, in terms of

**[01:41:42.000] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001741)  
the recommendations,

**[01:41:45.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001742)  
that would really depend

**[01:41:46.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001743)  
on what is arrived

**[01:41:48.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001744)  
in terms of assessments

**[01:41:50.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001745)  
and evaluation of the system.

**[01:41:52.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001746)  
Okay, so study and so on.

**[01:41:55.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001747)  
Bottom line,

**[01:41:57.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001748)  
maaasahan ba natin

**[01:41:58.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001749)  
ang pension reform?

**[01:42:00.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001750)  
Ang pinakakailangan po dito

**[01:42:02.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001751)  
ay magkaroon na ng contribution

**[01:42:04.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001752)  
system ang uniformed personnel.

**[01:42:06.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001753)  
Katulad ng sa sibil yan, parang yung

**[01:42:08.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001754)  
GSIS.

**[01:42:10.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001755)  
Sa ngayon, wala. Absolutely,

**[01:42:12.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001756)  
100%

**[01:42:13.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001757)  
kargado, kargo

**[01:42:15.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001758)  
ng budget,

**[01:42:18.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001759)  
ng national budget.

**[01:42:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001760)  
So, basically,

**[01:42:22.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001761)  
ang sinasabi nyo po,

**[01:42:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001762)  
pag-aaralan pa, therefore, wala pong

**[01:42:25.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001763)  
maasahang pension reform under the

**[01:42:27.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001764)  
Marcos Jr. Administration.

**[01:42:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001765)  
Dalawang taon na lang po tayo.

**[01:42:32.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001766)  
Tama po ba?

**[01:42:34.200] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001767)  
The DND thinks that

**[01:42:36.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-001768)  
there should be further study.

**[01:42:37.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001769)  
Further study. Okay, I'll take that as a yes.

**[01:42:40.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001770)  
So, in other words, sabi ko nga,

**[01:42:42.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001771)  
Panumpay Aquino, pinag-usapan na to.

**[01:42:45.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001772)  
Kick down the road to the Duterte.

**[01:42:48.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001773)  
Ganon din.

**[01:42:49.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001774)  
So, eto na naman tayo sa Marcos.

**[01:42:52.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001775)  
Okay, so humihingi ang AFP.

**[01:42:53.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001776)  
Sabi nila, walang pera sa modernization.

**[01:42:55.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001777)  
Eto, yung malaking budget nyo nandito.

**[01:42:58.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001778)  
Ayaw nyo naman mag-reforma.

**[01:43:00.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001779)  
No? Okay.

**[01:43:02.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001780)  
So, move on.

**[01:43:03.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001781)  
Next topic.

**[01:43:04.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001782)  
Next topic po natin.

**[01:43:07.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001783)  
Eto, parang

**[01:43:08.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001784)  
hot pop.

**[01:43:10.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001785)  
Right now, this is foreign

**[01:43:12.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001786)  
information manipulation

**[01:43:13.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001787)  
and interference.

**[01:43:16.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001788)  
Which is defined

**[01:43:18.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001789)  
as a coordinated

**[01:43:20.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001790)  
pattern of behavior

**[01:43:22.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001791)  
by foreign state

**[01:43:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001792)  
or state-linked actors

**[01:43:25.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001793)  
intended to distort the information

**[01:43:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001794)  
environment, deepen

**[01:43:29.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001795)  
societal polarization,

**[01:43:32.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001796)  
and undermine democratic institutions.

**[01:43:35.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001797)  
Another

**[01:43:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001798)  
additional

**[01:43:37.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001799)  
to that,

**[01:43:38.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001800)  
quote,

**[01:43:40.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001801)  
to the integrity of online

**[01:43:41.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001802)  
political information, among others.

**[01:43:44.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001803)  
No?

**[01:43:45.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001804)  
FIMI.

**[01:43:45.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001805)  
F-I-M-I.

**[01:43:47.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001806)  
Okay.

**[01:43:48.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001807)  
Recently,

**[01:43:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001808)  
meron po tayong again,

**[01:43:53.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001809)  
ita ba natin?

**[01:43:54.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001810)  
Visual aid.

**[01:43:57.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001811)  
Please.

**[01:44:00.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001812)  
Visual aid po.

**[01:44:01.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001813)  
Yun.

**[01:44:02.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001814)  
Okay.

**[01:44:02.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001815)  
Recently, the secretary,

**[01:44:03.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001816)  
no less than the secretary po,

**[01:44:06.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001817)  
appeared on a podcast

**[01:44:07.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001818)  
ah,

**[01:44:09.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001819)  
why should

**[01:44:10.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001820)  
we care about

**[01:44:10.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001821)  
the Indo-Pacific?

**[01:44:12.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001822)  
No?

**[01:44:13.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001823)  
Yung topic is not

**[01:44:15.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001824)  
as important,

**[01:44:16.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001825)  
more the part,

**[01:44:17.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001826)  
the people behind the podcast.

**[01:44:19.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001827)  
So, I raised this

**[01:44:20.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001828)  
during the budget deliberations.

**[01:44:22.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001829)  
Particularly,

**[01:44:23.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001830)  
the person

**[01:44:24.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001831)  
in the middle,

**[01:44:25.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001832)  
Ray Powell.

**[01:44:26.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001833)  
Yan, no?

**[01:44:27.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001834)  
So, siya,

**[01:44:28.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001835)  
isa sa mga,

**[01:44:30.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001836)  
ano,

**[01:44:31.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001837)  
kumbaga,

**[01:44:31.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001838)  
laman na ng balita,

**[01:44:33.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001839)  
even though he's an American,

**[01:44:34.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001840)  
pero he often appears

**[01:44:36.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001841)  
on local media

**[01:44:36.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001842)  
and is interviewed

**[01:44:38.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001843)  
as a,

**[01:44:40.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001844)  
maritime expert,

**[01:44:41.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001845)  
no?

**[01:44:42.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001846)  
Ahm,

**[01:44:44.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001847)  
topic niya yung

**[01:44:45.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001848)  
ah,

**[01:44:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001849)  
FIMI,

**[01:44:47.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001850)  
ah,

**[01:44:48.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001851)  
Foreign Information Manipulation

**[01:44:50.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001852)  
and Interference.

**[01:44:51.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001853)  
And recently,

**[01:44:53.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001854)  
he came out

**[01:44:54.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001855)  
with a,

**[01:44:56.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001856)  
ahm,

**[01:44:57.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001857)  
report

**[01:44:58.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001858)  
on

**[01:45:05.590] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001893)  
China

**[01:45:06.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001894)  
through his

**[01:45:08.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001895)  
project, a project called

**[01:45:10.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001896)  
Sea Light, Sea Light Initiative. Pwede bang

**[01:45:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001897)  
talon tayo doon sa Sea Light Initiative?

**[01:45:15.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001898)  
Okay.

**[01:45:18.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001899)  
This is a,

**[01:45:20.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001900)  
came out with a study

**[01:45:21.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001901)  
on, ayun po yung

**[01:45:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001902)  
title, the university that

**[01:45:26.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001903)  
said Batanes is China's

**[01:45:27.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001904)  
is also training Manila's Chinese

**[01:45:29.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001905)  
teachers. So essentially,

**[01:45:32.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001906)  
it's a long paper

**[01:45:33.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001907)  
on

**[01:45:34.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001908)  
foreign information

**[01:45:38.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001909)  
manipulation and interference.

**[01:45:40.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001910)  
Sinasabi niya rito

**[01:45:41.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001911)  
na yung mga

**[01:45:43.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001912)  
Chinese schools dito sa

**[01:45:45.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001913)  
Pilipinas ay nagiging

**[01:45:47.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001914)  
conduit daw po,

**[01:45:50.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001915)  
ginagamit ng China bilang conduit

**[01:45:52.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001916)  
ng kanilang

**[01:45:53.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001917)  
foreign information manipulation.

**[01:45:56.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001918)  
No?

**[01:45:56.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001919)  
Nabanggit dito yung

**[01:45:59.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001920)  
Chinese university

**[01:46:01.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001921)  
that claimed, obviously

**[01:46:04.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001922)  
falsely, walang basis,

**[01:46:06.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001923)  
na yung Batanes daw

**[01:46:07.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001924)  
ay bahagi ng China.

**[01:46:09.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001925)  
So yun daw mga universities na yun

**[01:46:11.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001926)  
have ties with

**[01:46:14.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001927)  
Chinese

**[01:46:15.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001928)  
Filipino schools

**[01:46:17.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001929)  
in Manila. At

**[01:46:19.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001930)  
pinangalanan

**[01:46:20.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001931)  
nitong si Ray Powell

**[01:46:23.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001932)  
sa kanyang study,

**[01:46:24.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001933)  
ang mga,

**[01:46:26.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001934)  
kilala,

**[01:46:29.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001935)  
prestigious to the

**[01:46:30.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001936)  
Filipino-Chinese community,

**[01:46:33.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001937)  
long-standing historical institutions

**[01:46:35.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001938)  
like Chiang Kai-shek

**[01:46:37.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001939)  
College,

**[01:46:39.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001940)  
Philippine Cultural College,

**[01:46:42.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001941)  
and the Philippine

**[01:46:43.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001942)  
Chongse Academy. Mga matagal na po

**[01:46:45.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001943)  
tong mga

**[01:46:46.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001944)  
institutions,

**[01:46:49.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001945)  
education institutions

**[01:46:50.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001946)  
sa ating Filipino-Chinese

**[01:46:53.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001947)  
community. Pero sabi ni Powell,

**[01:46:56.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001948)  
daluyan na raw sila ng

**[01:46:58.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001949)  
foreign information manipulation

**[01:47:02.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001950)  
and interference.

**[01:47:04.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001951)  
Okay? At binanggit din niya yung

**[01:47:06.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001952)  
mga universities daw

**[01:47:08.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001953)  
na merong Confucian institutes.

**[01:47:11.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001954)  
No?

**[01:47:12.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001955)  
Including, Confucius Institute,

**[01:47:14.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001956)  
sorry, including Adamson University,

**[01:47:16.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001957)  
Bulacan State University.

**[01:47:19.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001958)  
And

**[01:47:19.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001959)  
overall, sabi niya, sa kanyang

**[01:47:22.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001960)  
study, 44 Chinese-Filipino

**[01:47:24.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001961)  
schools ang

**[01:47:26.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001962)  
na-identify niya, na-involve

**[01:47:28.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001963)  
many, and even

**[01:47:32.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001964)  
many mainstream, hindi lang yung

**[01:47:34.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001965)  
Chinese schools, sabi niya, many mainstream

**[01:47:36.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001966)  
Philippine high

**[01:47:38.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001967)  
schools have also

**[01:47:40.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001968)  
been attached by this

**[01:47:42.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001969)  
influence. So yun po ang sabi

**[01:47:44.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001970)  
nitong si Ray Powell.

**[01:47:46.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001971)  
So, of course, kung merong ganyang

**[01:47:48.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001972)  
study,

**[01:47:49.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001973)  
objectively, dapat ma-evaluate.

**[01:47:52.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001974)  
However, my concern

**[01:47:54.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001975)  
is that

**[01:47:56.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001976)  
dapat yung concept ng

**[01:47:59.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001977)  
foreign information

**[01:48:02.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001978)  
manipulation and

**[01:48:04.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001979)  
interference

**[01:48:06.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001980)  
should be applied

**[01:48:08.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001981)  
equally

**[01:48:12.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001982)  
to all

**[01:48:13.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001983)  
types of foreign influence.

**[01:48:17.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001984)  
No? And it so

**[01:48:18.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001985)  
happens, to state the obvious,

**[01:48:21.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001986)  
si Ray

**[01:48:22.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001987)  
Powell mismo,

**[01:48:24.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001988)  
foreigner din naman.

**[01:48:26.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001989)  
Diba? Now, should he not

**[01:48:28.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001990)  
also, should he and his

**[01:48:30.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001991)  
activities also not fall under

**[01:48:32.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001992)  
the category of

**[01:48:34.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001993)  
foreign information

**[01:48:36.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001994)  
manipulation and

**[01:48:38.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001995)  
interference? What

**[01:48:40.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001996)  
he does not publicly disclose

**[01:48:42.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001997)  
or

**[01:48:43.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001998)  
hindi nakikita yan, ano?

**[01:48:47.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-001999)  
Tuwing ini-interview siya

**[01:48:48.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002000)  
sa Philippine Mindya, wala

**[01:48:50.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002001)  
siyang disclaimer. Pero dapat

**[01:48:52.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002002)  
merong disclaimer. Anong disclaimer?

**[01:48:54.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002003)  
Anong disclaimer?

**[01:48:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002004)  
Ano ba yung background

**[01:48:56.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002005)  
ni Ray Powell at saka

**[01:48:58.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002006)  
nung kanyang SeaLight

**[01:49:00.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002007)  
initiative? No?

**[01:49:02.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002008)  
Well, let's go back to some of the slides.

**[01:49:06.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002009)  
Yung SeaLight initiative,

**[01:49:08.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002010)  
ayan yung social media page niya, no?

**[01:49:11.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002011)  
Is, uh, SeaLight is

**[01:49:13.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002012)  
the, sabi dito,

**[01:49:15.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002013)  
SeaLight, a maritime

**[01:49:17.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002014)  
transparency project

**[01:49:18.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002015)  
of the Gordian Knot Center

**[01:49:21.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002016)  
for National Security at Stanford.

**[01:49:22.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002017)  
So, spin-off,

**[01:49:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002018)  
siya, project ng

**[01:49:25.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002019)  
tinatawag na Gordian Knot Center

**[01:49:28.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002020)  
for National Security at Stanford.

**[01:49:30.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002021)  
Kaya nga, if you go back to that other slide,

**[01:49:33.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002022)  
yung social media

**[01:49:34.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002023)  
handle ni Ray Powell

**[01:49:36.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002024)  
is Gordian Knot Ray.

**[01:49:38.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002025)  
That's because galing siya

**[01:49:40.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002026)  
dun sa Gordian Knot Institute Center

**[01:49:42.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002027)  
for National Security at Stanford.

**[01:49:45.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002028)  
And, what

**[01:49:46.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002029)  
he does not disclose about the

**[01:49:48.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002030)  
Gordian Knot Center

**[01:49:49.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002031)  
and the spin-off project SeaLight

**[01:49:51.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002032)  
is, san ba nang galing itong Gordian Knot Center?

**[01:49:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002033)  
Okay. So, available ito sa internet.

**[01:49:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002034)  
Next slide po.

**[01:49:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002035)  
Um, okay.

**[01:50:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002036)  
The ONR helps

**[01:50:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002037)  
launch new academic center

**[01:50:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002038)  
for national security innovation.

**[01:50:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002039)  
This is a

**[01:50:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002040)  
news report from the

**[01:50:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002041)  
Navy.mil website.

**[01:50:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002042)  
Website po ng

**[01:50:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002043)  
US Navy, official, no?

**[01:50:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002044)  
Okay. Next.

**[01:50:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002045)  
Uh, the recognizing

**[01:50:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002046)  
the modern need for bold answers

**[01:50:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002047)  
to complex naval challenges.

**[01:50:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002048)  
The Office of Naval Research

**[01:50:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002049)  
has sponsored the creation

**[01:50:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002050)  
of Stanford University's

**[01:50:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002051)  
Gordian Knot Center for National

**[01:50:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002052)  
Security Innovation.

**[01:50:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002053)  
So, malinaw po, ang origin

**[01:50:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002054)  
nung Gordian Knot Center

**[01:50:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002055)  
tsaka yung SeaLight project

**[01:50:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002056)  
is the Office of Naval Research. Ano yung

**[01:50:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002057)  
Office of Naval Research? Next slide.

**[01:50:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002058)  
Office of Naval Research

**[01:50:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002059)  
is an office under

**[01:50:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002060)  
the United States Navy

**[01:50:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002061)  
which is under the Department

**[01:50:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002062)  
of War of the U.S.A.

**[01:50:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002063)  
So, in other words, directly,

**[01:50:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002064)  
this SeaLight,

**[01:50:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002065)  
this Gordian Knot Center,

**[01:51:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002066)  
this Ray Powell,

**[01:51:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002067)  
who is the director of SeaLight,

**[01:51:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002068)  
sila po,

**[01:51:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002069)  
they would fall under

**[01:51:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002070)  
state-linked actors.

**[01:51:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002071)  
Kasi ang nagtatag

**[01:51:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002072)  
ng kanilang organisasyon,

**[01:51:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002073)  
US Navy mismo.

**[01:51:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002074)  
So, ang

**[01:51:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002075)  
point lang po natin,

**[01:51:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002076)  
tama po, expose natin

**[01:51:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002077)  
yung mga

**[01:51:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002078)  
foreign influence operations

**[01:51:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002079)  
ng information

**[01:51:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002080)  
operations ng China, pero

**[01:51:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002081)  
kailangan din

**[01:51:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002082)  
patas. Kailangan din

**[01:51:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002083)  
transparent with regard

**[01:51:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002084)  
to the foreign influence

**[01:51:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002085)  
operations of the United States.

**[01:51:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002086)  
And the main

**[01:51:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002087)  
actor or agent

**[01:51:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002088)  
of the United States in this

**[01:51:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002089)  
regard would be this person,

**[01:51:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002090)  
Ray Powell.

**[01:51:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002091)  
So,

**[01:51:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002092)  
yun po ang punto natin

**[01:51:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002093)  
dito. Kung magsasalita man siya,

**[01:51:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002094)  
this is a free country, pwede siya magsalita.

**[01:51:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002095)  
Pero kailangan may disclaimer.

**[01:52:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002096)  
Diba?

**[01:52:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002097)  
Na

**[01:52:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002098)  
siya ay

**[01:52:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002099)  
ahente ng

**[01:52:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002100)  
gobyerno ng US.

**[01:52:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002101)  
State-linked actor, that would be the term

**[01:52:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002102)  
for him. Okay. So, yun po

**[01:52:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002103)  
yung point. Now, madalas po

**[01:52:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002104)  
kadil siya ng DND, including

**[01:52:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002105)  
the Secretary himself, as we have

**[01:52:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002106)  
shown, yung podcast.

**[01:52:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002107)  
So, dapat siguro,

**[01:52:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002108)  
malinaw, maging critical tayo. Gusto

**[01:52:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002109)  
natin independent

**[01:52:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002110)  
foreign policy,

**[01:52:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002111)  
independent defense

**[01:52:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002112)  
stand. So,

**[01:52:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002113)  
kailangan, klaro, okay,

**[01:52:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002114)  
kontra tayo sa China, pero

**[01:52:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002115)  
hindi tayo, we do not, we should

**[01:52:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002116)  
not accept hook, line,

**[01:52:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002117)  
and sinker kung ano

**[01:52:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002118)  
yung

**[01:52:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002119)  
sinasabi ng

**[01:52:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002120)  
US as a

**[01:52:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002121)  
foreign information

**[01:52:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002122)  
influencer. Parang

**[01:52:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002123)  
ganon. Ngayon,

**[01:52:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002124)  
especially, for example, when

**[01:53:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002125)  
someone like Ray Powell

**[01:53:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002126)  
makes

**[01:53:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002127)  
certain allegations

**[01:53:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002128)  
against

**[01:53:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002129)  
the Chinese

**[01:53:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002130)  
Filipino community

**[01:53:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002131)  
and

**[01:53:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002132)  
respected institutions

**[01:53:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002133)  
of long standing

**[01:53:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002134)  
of

**[01:53:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002135)  
beloved institutions

**[01:53:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002136)  
of the Filipino-Chinese

**[01:53:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002137)  
community, such as Chiang Kai-shek

**[01:53:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002138)  
College. So,

**[01:53:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002139)  
magingat po tayo.

**[01:53:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002140)  
Namamaya,

**[01:53:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002141)  
unfairly, nagiging target

**[01:53:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002142)  
yung, of course,

**[01:53:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002143)  
matagal na ang Chinese

**[01:53:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002144)  
Filipino community sa Pilipinas.

**[01:53:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002145)  
Of course, there will be ties with China.

**[01:53:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002146)  
Hindi talaga,

**[01:53:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002147)  
hindi maiiwasan yun. Now,

**[01:53:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002148)  
ang problema po natin, may nakikita

**[01:53:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002149)  
tayong dangerous tendency to encourage

**[01:53:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002150)  
kung merong red tagging,

**[01:53:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002151)  
meron na rin pong China

**[01:53:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002152)  
tagging. So, yan po

**[01:53:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002153)  
ang

**[01:54:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002154)  
anything associated with

**[01:54:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002155)  
China or

**[01:54:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002156)  
any critical stand against

**[01:54:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002157)  
the United States in the Philippines

**[01:54:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002158)  
sasabihin, pro-China ka.

**[01:54:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002159)  
Ganon. So, yan po ang

**[01:54:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002160)  
nakikita nating problema dito.

**[01:54:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002161)  
Okay. Now,

**[01:54:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002162)  
last

**[01:54:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002163)  
set of

**[01:54:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002164)  
issues,

**[01:54:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002165)  
yung Iran war.

**[01:54:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002166)  
No?

**[01:54:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002167)  
And its effect

**[01:54:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002168)  
on

**[01:54:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002169)  
and the necessary

**[01:54:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002170)  
rethinking

**[01:54:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002171)  
of

**[01:54:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002172)  
our foreign policy

**[01:54:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002173)  
and even our

**[01:54:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002174)  
national defense,

**[01:54:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002175)  
external defense posture.

**[01:54:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002176)  
Especially since

**[01:54:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002177)  
what we have seen

**[01:54:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002178)  
in the Iran

**[01:54:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002179)  
in the,

**[01:54:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002180)  
as a result of the Iran war.

**[01:54:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002181)  
No? Sa ngayon po,

**[01:54:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002182)  
malinaw ang ating

**[01:54:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002183)  
external defense

**[01:55:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002184)  
posture.

**[01:55:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002185)  
It's still very much anchored

**[01:55:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002186)  
on the mutual defense treaty

**[01:55:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002187)  
with the United States. Diba?

**[01:55:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002188)  
Okay. And the

**[01:55:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002189)  
Marcos Junior policy is to

**[01:55:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002190)  
expand

**[01:55:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002191)  
U.S. presence,

**[01:55:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002192)  
military presence, as well as economic

**[01:55:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002193)  
presence in the Philippines.

**[01:55:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002194)  
No? So, meron kang ED

**[01:55:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002195)  
ka, meron ka ngayon Paxil

**[01:55:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002196)  
ka. No? So,

**[01:55:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002197)  
military

**[01:55:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002198)  
as well as economic.

**[01:55:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002199)  
Okay. Ano po ang mga

**[01:55:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002200)  
aral natin mula sa ongoing pa rin

**[01:55:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002201)  
na gera ng

**[01:55:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002202)  
U.S. sa Iran? Well,

**[01:55:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002203)  
for one, we have seen how

**[01:55:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002204)  
those countries that host

**[01:55:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002205)  
U.S. military

**[01:55:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002206)  
installations

**[01:55:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002207)  
as well as

**[01:55:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002208)  
businesses

**[01:55:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002209)  
related to

**[01:55:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002210)  
the U.S. have been attacked.

**[01:55:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002211)  
Diba? So,

**[01:55:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002212)  
that includes yung

**[01:55:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002213)  
Bahrain,

**[01:56:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002214)  
yung mga Gulf cooperation

**[01:56:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002215)  
country council states.

**[01:56:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002216)  
What does it say here? That

**[01:56:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002217)  
during the war up to the

**[01:56:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002218)  
present, there have been

**[01:56:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002219)  
172 attacks on

**[01:56:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002220)  
non-military infrastructure

**[01:56:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002221)  
on the six Gulf cooperation

**[01:56:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002222)  
council states.

**[01:56:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002223)  
UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain,

**[01:56:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002224)  
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman.

**[01:56:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002225)  
So, from oil and gas ports,

**[01:56:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002226)  
airports, data centers,

**[01:56:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002227)  
power stations, refineries,

**[01:56:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002228)  
petrochemical plants,

**[01:56:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002229)  
and so on. Inatake

**[01:56:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002230)  
po, kasi sa

**[01:56:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002231)  
Amerika siya, sa naging target.

**[01:56:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002232)  
Okay. Kapos hindi

**[01:56:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002233)  
lang economic infrastructure

**[01:56:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002234)  
hosted by the Gulf states

**[01:56:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002235)  
belonging to the U.S.,

**[01:56:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002236)  
even the bases of the United States

**[01:56:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002237)  
were attacked. Next.

**[01:56:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002238)  
Diba? Next pa.

**[01:56:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002239)  
Next.

**[01:56:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002240)  
Yeah.

**[01:56:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002241)  
Go back. Well, okay.

**[01:57:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002242)  
Well, the

**[01:57:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002243)  
Inspector

**[01:57:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002244)  
General to the

**[01:57:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002245)  
U.S. Congress recently

**[01:57:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002246)  
submitted a report.

**[01:57:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002247)  
May sinabit po na report

**[01:57:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002248)  
sa

**[01:57:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002249)  
U.S. Congress

**[01:57:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002250)  
regarding the damage, the military

**[01:57:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002251)  
damage sustained by the U.S.

**[01:57:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002252)  
in the still ongoing war.

**[01:57:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002253)  
Ano ang sabi nila?

**[01:57:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002254)  
Dito.

**[01:57:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002255)  
Sabi po sa report,

**[01:57:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002256)  
U.S. CENTCOM

**[01:57:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002257)  
reported that Iranian strikes

**[01:57:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002258)  
damaged and destroyed hundreds of

**[01:57:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002259)  
buildings and structures at

**[01:57:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002260)  
U.S. bases in Kuwait,

**[01:57:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002261)  
Bahrain, Qatar, UAE,

**[01:57:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002262)  
Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman, and Jordan

**[01:57:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002263)  
during the conflict.

**[01:57:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002264)  
No? And,

**[01:57:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002265)  
ito naman, may table of all the

**[01:57:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002266)  
aircraft, the military aircraft destroyed

**[01:57:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002267)  
during the conflict

**[01:57:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002268)  
in their bases.

**[01:57:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002269)  
Okay. And then the next slide.

**[01:57:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002270)  
The

**[01:58:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002271)  
Secretary

**[01:58:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002272)  
of the Navy,

**[01:58:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002273)  
Hung Cao, yun ang pangalan niya,

**[01:58:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002274)  
Vietnamese-American,

**[01:58:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002275)  
he candidly admitted

**[01:58:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002276)  
to media, sabi niya, Iran

**[01:58:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002277)  
blew the hell out of our base in

**[01:58:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002278)  
Bahrain. So siya mismo

**[01:58:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002279)  
nagsabi, pinasabog ng Iran

**[01:58:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002280)  
yung naval base

**[01:58:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002281)  
ng U.S. sa Bahrain,

**[01:58:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002282)  
which happens to be the

**[01:58:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002283)  
headquarters of the Navy

**[01:58:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002284)  
in that area, CENTCOM,

**[01:58:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002285)  
5th Fleet. No? So kaya po,

**[01:58:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002286)  
nawala lang sila ng base

**[01:58:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002287)  
sa

**[01:58:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002288)  
area na yon,

**[01:58:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002289)  
ng gitnang silangan,

**[01:58:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002290)  
and they now have to resupply

**[01:58:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002291)  
all the way as far away as

**[01:58:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002292)  
Diego Garcia. Kaya namumroblema po sila.

**[01:58:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002293)  
Okay. So ang point, anong point

**[01:58:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002294)  
dito?

**[01:58:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002295)  
So, ang point

**[01:58:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002296)  
dito, pag nagkaroon ng

**[01:58:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002297)  
gera, ang U.S.,

**[01:58:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002298)  
sa kalaban niya,

**[01:58:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002299)  
magiging target

**[01:58:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002300)  
yung mga

**[01:59:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002301)  
host countries

**[01:59:02.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002302)  
na nag-host ng

**[01:59:04.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002303)  
economic infrastructure

**[01:59:06.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002304)  
as well as military

**[01:59:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002305)  
bases ng U.S.

**[01:59:10.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002306)  
So that is no long

**[01:59:12.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002307)  
or hypothetical. It is

**[01:59:14.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002308)  
what happened. No? So kaya po,

**[01:59:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002309)  
ang tanong ngayon, what about

**[01:59:18.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002310)  
Pilipinas?

**[01:59:20.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002311)  
No? Ang Marcos Jr. Administration,

**[01:59:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002312)  
katulad ng sinabi natin,

**[01:59:24.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002313)  
talagang todong

**[01:59:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002314)  
pinalawak ang footprint

**[01:59:28.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002315)  
ng U.S. militarily.

**[01:59:30.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002316)  
So with the EDCA sites

**[01:59:32.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002317)  
as well as the non-EDCA sites.

**[01:59:34.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002318)  
Subic, for example.

**[01:59:36.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002319)  
Tapos meron pa ngayong

**[01:59:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002320)  
Paxilica. Mag-i-invest

**[01:59:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002321)  
pa raw yung

**[01:59:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002322)  
Subic, yung ating

**[01:59:44.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002323)  
Luzon Economic Corridor.

**[01:59:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002324)  
So that would be Subic, Clark,

**[01:59:48.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002325)  
Batangas, Laguna.

**[01:59:50.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002326)  
The industrial heart

**[01:59:52.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002327)  
of the Philippine economy ay

**[01:59:54.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002328)  
ibibigay daw sa Paxilica.

**[01:59:56.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002329)  
No? So,

**[02:00:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002330)  
Ang tanong dito ngayon, and this is a question that pertains to the primary mandate of the Department of National Defense and the AFP,

**[02:00:10.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002331)  
paano didepensahan ang mga ito kung magkaroon ng gera sa pagitan ng US at Pilipinas?

**[02:00:19.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002332)  
Napakita sa Gulf na wasak yan.

**[02:00:24.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002333)  
Let me, another, one last.

**[02:00:27.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002334)  
Sorry, before you continue, I would like to request the gentleman to wrap up, please.

**[02:00:31.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002335)  
Opo, we're wrapping up.

**[02:00:34.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002336)  
A few other points.

**[02:00:39.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002337)  
So, napakita natin.

**[02:00:42.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002338)  
One last slide.

**[02:00:46.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002339)  
Even, so mukhang, dalawa actually.

**[02:00:50.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002340)  
One is tidal wave.

**[02:00:53.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002341)  
Tidal wave.

**[02:00:55.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002342)  
Okay.

**[02:00:55.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002343)  
Okay.

**[02:00:55.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002344)  
What is tidal wave?

**[02:00:57.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002345)  
Tidal wave was a recent major report issued by Heritage, the Washington think tank, the renowned Washington think tank.

**[02:01:07.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002346)  
Tungkol ito, 400 pages ito.

**[02:01:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002347)  
This is a study on logistics, China, logistics of China and the US in time of war.

**[02:01:18.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002348)  
Kung magkaroon daw ng gera, ano mangyayari sa, ano maging risulta from the point of view of logistics?

**[02:01:24.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002349)  
Ano ang sabi?

**[02:01:25.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002350)  
Dito.

**[02:01:27.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002351)  
Ang sabi dito ay, sabi ng Heritage Foundation, hindi daw tatagal ng isang linggo ang ammunition supplies ng US in an all-out war with China.

**[02:01:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002352)  
One week.

**[02:01:41.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002353)  
And then, hindi tatagal daw ng isang buwan ang kanilang fuel supply in a war with China.

**[02:01:51.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002354)  
This was issued by Heritage, as you can see, in January.

**[02:01:55.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002355)  
2026.

**[02:02:01.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002356)  
Before the Iran War.

**[02:02:03.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002357)  
So ngayon, mas kinumpirman ng realidad.

**[02:02:06.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002358)  
Kung Iran pa lang ang kalaban, medyo naubusan na ng bala at hirap na ng logistics ang US.

**[02:02:16.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002359)  
Paano pa ngayon sa China?

**[02:02:19.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002360)  
And then the final study that I would like to present here is one issued by...

**[02:02:25.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002361)  
by the Washington think tank, again, Defense Priorities.

**[02:02:29.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002362)  
Itong think tank na ito is funded by the American billionaire Koch, the Koch brothers.

**[02:02:38.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002363)  
These are right-wing billionaires.

**[02:02:40.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002364)  
Mas right-wing pa kay Trump.

**[02:02:42.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002365)  
Ano ang nilabas nila recently?

**[02:02:44.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002366)  
Just this September 10, they are proposing a second island chain strategy for Asia.

**[02:02:51.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002367)  
No?

**[02:02:51.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002368)  
What do they mean by a second island chain strategy?

**[02:02:55.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002369)  
For Asia?

**[02:02:56.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002370)  
Sabi po dito, this is a strategy that shifts US military commitments and presence

**[02:03:05.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002371)  
from the vulnerable first island chain toward a more defensible second island chain,

**[02:03:12.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002372)  
which would reduce US military requirements and the risk of a war with China

**[02:03:18.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002373)  
while still protecting US interests.

**[02:03:21.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002374)  
And then second, the United States should narrow its defense commitments

**[02:03:25.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002375)  
in the region, shifting to a clear non-intervention position on Taiwan,

**[02:03:32.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002376)  
ending mutual defense alliances with South Korea, Australia, the Philippines, and Japan,

**[02:03:38.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002377)  
and negotiating narrow and flexible security partnerships in their place.

**[02:03:44.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002378)  
US military posture should change accordingly.

**[02:03:48.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002379)  
So, yan na po ang posisyon.

**[02:03:49.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002380)  
Kung baga, may pagtanggap na in certain circles in Washington,

**[02:03:55.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002381)  
the most conservative circles,

**[02:03:57.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002382)  
sabi nila, di na kayang depensahan ng US

**[02:04:00.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002383)  
ang first island chain, atras tayo sa second island chain.

**[02:04:05.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002384)  
Ibig sabihin nun, as far back as Guam.

**[02:04:08.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002385)  
No?

**[02:04:10.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002386)  
At sabi nga, huwag na, let us leave behind the mutual defense treaties

**[02:04:17.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002387)  
because hindi na raw kayang ng US ang commitment na to.

**[02:04:21.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002388)  
So, in favor of more to them,

**[02:04:25.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002389)  
flexible arrangements.

**[02:04:26.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002390)  
Ito, hindi mga kaliwa ang nagpo-propose nito,

**[02:04:30.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002391)  
yung mga pinakakanan sa US.

**[02:04:33.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002392)  
Now, my final point and question is,

**[02:04:36.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002393)  
May may request sa gentleman to wrap up in the last 30 seconds, please.

**[02:04:40.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002394)  
Okay, sa ganitong realidad ngayon,

**[02:04:43.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002395)  
tama po ba na patuloy na panindigan pa rin

**[02:04:48.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002396)  
ng Marcos Jr. Administration

**[02:04:50.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002397)  
at ng Department of National Defense

**[02:04:54.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002398)  
ang kanilang,

**[02:04:55.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002399)  
patuloy na pagkapit

**[02:04:59.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002400)  
sa Mutual Defense Treaty with the US,

**[02:05:04.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002401)  
given that events have shown

**[02:05:07.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002402)  
that such a close alliance with the US

**[02:05:11.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002403)  
would mean putting our economic infrastructure at risk

**[02:05:15.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002404)  
and also,

**[02:05:17.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002405)  
would also mean that

**[02:05:19.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002406)  
the US may not be willing or able

**[02:05:24.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002407)  
to,

**[02:05:25.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002408)  
ah,

**[02:05:26.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002409)  
live up to its defense commitments.

**[02:05:28.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002410)  
Hindi niya kayang ipagtanggol.

**[02:05:30.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002411)  
Katulad ng nangyari sa Middle East,

**[02:05:32.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002412)  
hindi pinagtagol.

**[02:05:33.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002413)  
And therefore,

**[02:05:34.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002414)  
sa halip na patuloy na magpahipit ng relasyon sa US,

**[02:05:39.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002415)  
ay tumindig tayo, no?

**[02:05:43.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002416)  
Labanan natin ng China,

**[02:05:44.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002417)  
pero pangunahing umaasa sa sarili nating lakas

**[02:05:47.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002418)  
at makipagtulungan,

**[02:05:49.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002419)  
hindi sa US,

**[02:05:50.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002420)  
kung hindi sa mga kapitbahay natin, halimbawa,

**[02:05:53.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002421)  
ASEAN,

**[02:05:54.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002422)  
Malaysia,

**[02:05:55.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002423)  
Indonesia,

**[02:05:56.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002424)  
Vietnam,

**[02:05:57.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002425)  
at iba pa.

**[02:05:59.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002426)  
May I get a,

**[02:06:01.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002427)  
at least a final response from the sponsor?

**[02:06:04.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002428)  
Kine-question na po natin, basically,

**[02:06:06.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002429)  
yung, ah,

**[02:06:08.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002430)  
pagkapit ng Marcos Jr. administration

**[02:06:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002431)  
sa Mutual Defense Treaty at sa mga kano?

**[02:06:16.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002432)  
Opo.

**[02:06:17.640] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002433)  
Yes, ah, Mr. Speaker,

**[02:06:19.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002434)  
the Department takes note of the concerns

**[02:06:21.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002435)  
and the issues raised by our distinguished colleague,

**[02:06:25.240] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002437)  
ah, this is precisely the reason why we have to support

**[02:06:28.740] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002438)  
ah, the AFP modernization program

**[02:06:31.160] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002439)  
and the Comprehensive Archipelagic Defense Concept.

**[02:06:34.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002440)  
This is what we want to do.

**[02:06:36.400] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002441)  
We want to make sure that we protect our territory.

**[02:06:40.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002442)  
Thank you.

**[02:06:41.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-002443)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:06:42.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002444)  
Thank you.

**[02:06:43.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002445)  
Thank you, sir.

**[02:06:44.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002446)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:06:45.740] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002447)  
Mr. Speaker, I move that you recognize the honorable

**[02:06:49.040] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002448)  
Sergio C. Dagooc of Party-list APEC for his interpellation.

**[02:06:52.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002449)  
The gentleman from Partylist APEC,

**[02:06:54.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002451)  
Representative Sergio Dagooc,

**[02:06:56.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002452)  
is recognized.

**[02:06:58.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002453)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:07:01.600] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002454)  
Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[02:07:02.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002455)  
Magandang umaga po sa ating lahat.

**[02:07:05.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002456)  
Maiksi lang po.

**[02:07:07.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002457)  
Ah,

**[02:07:08.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002458)  
naubos na yung mga tanong ko eh.

**[02:07:10.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002459)  
Tinanong na ni,

**[02:07:11.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002460)  
ng kasabahan ko eh.

**[02:07:14.240] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002461)  
Ah,

**[02:07:14.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002462)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[02:07:17.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002463)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[02:07:19.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002464)  
ang number one issue,

**[02:07:21.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002465)  
ah, correct me if I'm wrong, no,

**[02:07:24.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002466)  
ito yung nabasa ko.

**[02:07:27.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002467)  
May performance report tayo sa Land Forces Defense Program, no.

**[02:07:33.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002468)  
The performance report shows that the Philippine Army

**[02:07:38.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002469)  
achieved only 64 percent of its 81 percent target

**[02:07:43.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002470)  
for tactical units in prescribed readiness condition,

**[02:07:48.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002471)  
and only 28 percent of its 79 percent target

**[02:07:54.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002472)  
for ready reserve units in prescribed readiness condition.

**[02:07:59.580] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002473)  
The SEAD report states that

**[02:08:02.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002474)  
the shortfall was partly due to the rebump of the Philippine Army readiness rating system

**[02:08:10.680] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002475)  
aimed at determining and resolving the capability shortfalls of existing tactical units.

**[02:08:17.380] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002476)  
So, the question, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[02:08:20.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002477)  
ah, is this.

**[02:08:21.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002478)  
If the readiness rating system is not suitable,

**[02:08:23.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002480)  
if the readiness rating system was changed in a way

**[02:08:26.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002481)  
that lowered the reported accomplishment,

**[02:08:30.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002482)  
how can we be sure that the Army's actual fighting capability

**[02:08:35.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002483)  
has not been overstated in the previous years?

**[02:08:41.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002484)  
Importante to sakin, dami kong mga kamag-anak dyan eh.

**[02:08:52.440] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002485)  
Mr. Speaker, ah,

**[02:08:53.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002486)  
the reason that, ah,

**[02:08:55.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002487)  
there has to be adjustments with standards,

**[02:08:58.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002488)  
ah, particularly because, ah, threats are also evolving.

**[02:09:03.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002489)  
So that is the reason why, ah,

**[02:09:05.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002490)  
besides that, ah,

**[02:09:06.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002491)  
the scope of the mission areas also, ah, change.

**[02:09:12.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002492)  
So that is the reason for the higher, ah,

**[02:09:16.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002493)  
well, higher standards, really like the different standards.

**[02:09:19.220] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002494)  
Ah, but there is an assurance that, ah,

**[02:09:22.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002495)  
hindi naman po na-overstate.

**[02:09:23.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002496)  
Yung mga, ah, mga performance, ah, indicators from previous years.

**[02:09:29.860] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002497)  
It's more of ngayon lang po talaga kailangan i-adjust yung standards,

**[02:09:33.920] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002498)  
ah, given nag-iiba po talaga yung mga threats

**[02:09:36.960] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002499)  
and nag-iiba rin po yung scope of, ah, mission areas.

**[02:09:41.120] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002500)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[02:09:42.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002501)  
Ah, naintindihan ko po, no?

**[02:09:45.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002502)  
Ah, however, is there, ah, concrete steps that the Department has taken

**[02:09:53.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002503)  
to ensure that this revamp will actually improve unit readiness

**[02:09:59.860] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002504)  
and not simply change the way readiness is measured on paper?

**[02:10:13.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002505)  
Talagang totohanan po ito.

**[02:10:50.310] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002518)  
Ah, Mr. Speaker,

**[02:10:52.670] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002519)  
This is a continuing process.

**[02:10:55.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002520)  
May rescoping po talaga

**[02:10:56.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002521)  
and rescaling.

**[02:10:59.500] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002522)  
But

**[02:11:00.100] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002523)  
the idea is that

**[02:11:02.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002524)  
we always upgrade.

**[02:11:05.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002525)  
We adjust based

**[02:11:06.600] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002526)  
on the current threats and also we have to

**[02:11:08.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002527)  
meet those targets and those standards

**[02:11:10.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002528)  
that we set.

**[02:11:13.780] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002529)  
Lastly na lang,

**[02:11:15.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002530)  
if the readiness rating

**[02:11:18.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002531)  
revamp was intended,

**[02:11:20.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002532)  
Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[02:11:22.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002533)  
to determine unresolved

**[02:11:24.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002534)  
capability shortfalls,

**[02:11:26.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002535)  
why did the actual

**[02:11:28.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002536)  
accomplishment drop so sharply

**[02:11:30.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002537)  
from 81%

**[02:11:32.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002538)  
target

**[02:11:34.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002539)  
to 64% actual

**[02:11:36.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002540)  
for tactical units

**[02:11:38.580] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002541)  
and from 79%

**[02:11:40.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002542)  
to 28%

**[02:11:42.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002543)  
actual for

**[02:11:44.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002544)  
ready reserve units?

**[02:11:48.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002545)  
Bakit po ganun ka ano?

**[02:11:51.560] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002546)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[02:11:52.340] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002547)  
the

**[02:11:53.620] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002548)  
indicators,

**[02:11:57.020] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002549)  
so the actual numbers that our

**[02:11:58.300] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002550)  
distinguished colleague

**[02:11:59.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002551)  
said, was

**[02:12:02.140] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002552)  
actually measured po

**[02:12:03.880] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002553)  
when we introduced those standards,

**[02:12:06.580] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002554)  
the new standards.

**[02:12:08.320] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002555)  
Kaya po, nagka-shortfall

**[02:12:10.680] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002556)  
kasi nag-adjust po yung

**[02:12:12.520] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002557)  
standards natin.

**[02:12:16.040] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002558)  
So, yung actual

**[02:12:16.780] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002559)  
number at the time, kung ano po yung

**[02:12:18.460] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002560)  
performance indicator, medyo

**[02:12:20.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002561)  
nagkaroon po na yung gap.

**[02:12:21.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002562)  
So, ganun po,

**[02:12:22.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002563)  
tayo ka,

**[02:12:23.100] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002564)  
Distinguished Sponsor, ganun po ba tayo

**[02:12:26.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002565)  
ka behind

**[02:12:28.580] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002566)  
nung in-adjust natin to?

**[02:12:30.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002567)  
Kaya, biglang nag-ano?

**[02:12:51.930] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002602)  
Yes, that would also account for the gap.

**[02:12:56.380] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002603)  
At the same time po, medyo dumami daw po yung domains.

**[02:12:59.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002604)  
May cyber domain na

**[02:13:01.420] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002605)  
mag-iba-iba po talaga eh.

**[02:13:04.360] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002606)  
So, parang nung in-account po yun dun sa

**[02:13:06.260] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002607)  
changing of the standards, talagang lumaki yung gap

**[02:13:09.080] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002608)  
dun sa

**[02:13:10.840] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-002609)  
actual versus yung target.

**[02:13:13.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002610)  
Anyway,

**[02:13:15.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002611)  
actually,

**[02:13:16.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002612)  
Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[02:13:19.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002613)  
tinutukan ko

**[02:13:21.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002614)  
talaga yung mga

**[02:13:22.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002615)  
aspek na yan.

**[02:13:24.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002616)  
Six pages po to, pero

**[02:13:25.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002617)  
dahil

**[02:13:26.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002618)  
I am

**[02:13:30.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002619)  
impressed by

**[02:13:31.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002620)  
the effort of

**[02:13:34.100] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002621)  
the God

**[02:13:35.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002622)  
Secretary

**[02:13:36.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002623)  
in resolving my

**[02:13:39.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002624)  
three years

**[02:13:40.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002625)  
issues on

**[02:13:43.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002626)  
collecting

**[02:13:44.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002627)  
hindi ko na po

**[02:13:49.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002628)  
tanong, but I am

**[02:13:51.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002629)  
just requesting na

**[02:13:53.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002630)  
tingnan tong mga

**[02:13:55.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002631)  
aspeto na to, kasi

**[02:13:57.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002632)  
may mga

**[02:13:59.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002633)  
tayo,

**[02:14:01.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002634)  
uniform personnel na

**[02:14:03.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002635)  
medyo hindi nila

**[02:14:05.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002636)  
nagustuhan yung kanilang rating

**[02:14:07.540] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002637)  
na

**[02:14:08.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002638)  
parang yung training

**[02:14:11.600] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002639)  
nila daw, parang nagiging

**[02:14:13.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002640)  
substandard pa

**[02:14:15.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002641)  
na yung iba, mga matagal na

**[02:14:17.640] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002642)  
kaya ko nasabi yan kasi

**[02:14:21.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002643)  
marami akong kamag-anak dyan sa

**[02:14:23.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002644)  
armed forces.

**[02:14:26.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002645)  
Before I end,

**[02:14:27.760] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002646)  
I would like to manifest

**[02:14:29.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002647)  
my support as usual

**[02:14:31.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002648)  
to the budget of

**[02:14:33.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002649)  
the DND,

**[02:14:35.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002650)  
the armed forces.

**[02:14:40.580] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002651)  
I hope

**[02:14:41.680] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002652)  
na

**[02:14:42.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002653)  
ma-ano natin lahat yung mga

**[02:14:45.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002654)  
program, lalong-lalo na sa

**[02:14:47.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002655)  
modernization program natin,

**[02:14:49.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002656)  
ay talagang may

**[02:14:51.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002657)  
mai-implement natin, kasi kailangang kailangan

**[02:14:53.140] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002658)  
natin 'yun. So, Mr. Speaker,

**[02:14:57.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002659)  
bayad na.

**[02:15:00.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002660)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[02:15:04.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002661)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[02:15:06.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002662)  
considering that

**[02:15:09.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002663)  
there is no other members

**[02:15:11.060] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002664)  
of the minority

**[02:15:12.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002665)  
who wish to interpelate the Sponsor,

**[02:15:15.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002666)  
I move to

**[02:15:17.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002667)  
terminate the period of interpellation

**[02:15:19.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002668)  
and debate on the proposed

**[02:15:21.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002669)  
2027 budget

**[02:15:23.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002670)  
of the Department of National Defense.

**[02:15:26.380] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-002671)  
So move, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:15:27.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002672)  
Thank you very much. What does the House say?

**[02:15:30.000] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002673)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[02:15:32.160] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002674)  
on the part of the majority,

**[02:15:33.640] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002675)  
we join the minority

**[02:15:34.860] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002676)  
in the motion to terminate the period

**[02:15:37.620] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002677)  
of interpellation on the

**[02:15:39.600] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002678)  
proposed budget of the Department of

**[02:15:41.680] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002679)  
National Defense and its attached

**[02:15:43.540] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002680)  
agencies. So moved, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:15:45.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002681)  
There is a joint motion to terminate the interpellation

**[02:15:47.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002682)  
of the proposed budget of the Department

**[02:15:49.780] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002683)  
of National Defense and its

**[02:15:51.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002684)  
attached agencies.

**[02:15:53.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002685)  
Any objection? Chair hears none.

**[02:15:56.520] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002686)  
Interpellation

**[02:15:57.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002687)  
on the proposed budget of the Department

**[02:15:59.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002688)  
of National Defense, including

**[02:16:01.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002689)  
its attached agencies,

**[02:16:03.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002690)  
is terminated.

**[02:16:05.280] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002691)  
Mr. Speaker, move to

**[02:16:07.300] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002692)  
suspend the session for a few minutes.

**[02:16:08.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002693)  
Session suspended.

**[02:19:42.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002718)  
Session resumed.

**[02:19:44.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002719)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:19:45.400] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002720)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend consideration

**[02:19:47.740] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002721)  
of House Bill

**[02:19:49.500] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002722)  
number 10858

**[02:19:51.780] Rep. Arnan C. Panaligan** (asr-002723)  
under Committee Report number 638.

**[02:19:54.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002724)  
There is a motion to

**[02:19:57.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002725)  
suspend consideration

**[02:19:58.120] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002726)  
on House Bill

**[02:20:00.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002727)  
10858

**[02:20:02.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002728)  
and

**[02:20:03.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002729)  
CR number 638.

**[02:20:05.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002730)  
There [unclear] objection? There is none.

**[02:20:07.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002731)  
Motion is carried. Majority Leader.

**[02:20:10.440] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002732)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[02:20:11.620] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002733)  
we are in receipt of

**[02:20:13.160] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002734)  
the Conference Committee Report

**[02:20:15.040] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002735)  
on the disagreeing provisions

**[02:20:17.200] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002736)  
of House Bill number 4744

**[02:20:20.100] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002737)  
and Senate Bill

**[02:20:21.780] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002738)  
number

**[02:20:22.320] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002739)  
1981.

**[02:20:25.420] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002740)  
Establishing the Basic Education

**[02:20:27.460] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002741)  
Voucher Assistance Program

**[02:20:29.280] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002742)  
providing for the creation

**[02:20:31.460] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002743)  
of the Bureau of Private Education.

**[02:20:34.220] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002744)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[02:20:35.600] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002745)  
in accordance with our rules,

**[02:20:37.660] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002746)  
I move to ratify

**[02:20:39.300] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002747)  
the said Conference Committee Report.

**[02:20:43.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002748)  
There is a motion

**[02:20:43.840] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002749)  
to ratify the said

**[02:20:45.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002750)  
Conference Committee Report.

**[02:20:47.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002751)  
All those in favor

**[02:20:48.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002752)  
of the Conference Committee, say aye.

**[02:20:52.340] Committee member** (asr-002753)  
Aye!

**[02:20:52.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002754)  
All those against, say nay.

**[02:20:56.420] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002755)  
The ayes have it.

**[02:20:57.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002756)  
The Conference Committee

**[02:20:59.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002757)  
Report is ratified.

**[02:21:01.840] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002758)  
Majority Leader.

**[02:21:03.180] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002759)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend

**[02:21:05.420] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002760)  
session until later

**[02:21:07.240] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002761)  
today at 9 o'clock

**[02:21:09.000] Rep. Manuel "Wowo" L. Fortes Jr.** (asr-002762)  
in the morning.

**[02:21:10.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002763)  
Session suspended later today

**[02:21:12.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002764)  
at 9 in the morning, September

**[02:21:14.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002765)  
22, 2026.

**[02:21:18.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002766)  
Your objection?

**[02:21:18.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002767)  
There is none.

**[02:21:21.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002768)  
Session suspended.