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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Arelma and the Swiss accounts, they were the subject of summary judgments po ng Sandiganbayan.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: So, na-recover na ho iyan.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: And then, as to the other assets po, they became the subject of compromise agreements,

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: whereby these assets were surrendered to the government.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Surrendered by whom?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Surrendered po.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Iyong mga, those who were, uh, perhaps standing as dummies, they surrendered the, the assets po.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: So, marami na po tayong recoveries diyan.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: And some of these properties were recovered in other cases po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Some but not all.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Well, there are still assets, but, uh, when we investigated po, ano eh, wala na po talagang—for example po, there were corporations listed in that case.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: But then, these corporations turned out to be unregistered or non-operational na po,

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: and then we don't have anymore the witnesses.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: So, we had to be candid with the court, uh, by stating that we are no longer presenting evidence po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, so, Chair, maaari po bang makahingi sa PCGG ng parang pinaka-report on, uh, the recovered hidden wealth,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah, especially, ah, iyong mga pinakahuli na nabanggit ninyo?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At mayroon ba tayong imbentaryo?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano ba talaga iyong buong tina-target natin?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Opo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ano iyong na-recover na natin at ano iyong hindi pa natin nare-recover?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Mayroon po tayong imbentaryo niyan.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Uh, mayroon din tayong imbentaryo ng current cases po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Ah, about, uh, 67 cases po iyan which are pending in the appellate courts.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Ang halaga po niyan,

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: mga more than 70

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: billion pa ho.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: More than ₱70 billion?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Oo.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Ang abogado po namin eh ang OSG po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ₱70 billion pa ang tina-target natin na mabawi na ill-gotten wealth ng pamilyang Marcos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Opo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ang PCGG po ay, ah, ano po ba kayo? Attached agency to the—

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Attached agency po kami sa Department of Justice.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kayo po, appointee po kayo?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Opo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sino ang nag-appoint sa inyo?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Si President Marcos po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Si President Marcos din.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, well, just your—gusto ko lang po marinig:

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi po ba awkward sa inyo?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Awkward po, pero trabaho po iyan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: But then, to the credit of the President

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: and the family,

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: we never, uh, uh, were pressured on anything po.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: We have been performing our duty independently.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: So, wala pong undue influence on us.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, well, so, ang malinaw po, may tina-target pa kayo na ₱70 billion worth of ill-gotten wealth.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Opo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, at may mga pending cases ang mga iyan.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Opo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya narito kayo ngayon para humingi ng budget para matuloy ninyo pa iyong laban na iyon.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Tama po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At, ah, kasi noon, may mga proposal po na i-abolish na raw ang PCGG,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: no?

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos na raw ang, ang, you know, ang mandato ninyo o wala nang mare-recover.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sumasang-ayon ba kayo doon?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Ah, kami po eh sang-ayon na ma-abolish iyong PCGG,

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: but in its place, mayroon po sanang maitatayong new agency that will take over the mandate of the PCGG, but expanded mandate po.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Kasi ang mandate po ngayon ng PCGG is napaka-limited po eh.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: It's just the Marcos ill-gotten wealth.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Tama po.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Uh, but then, we want it to be expanded so that, uh, the mandate will be applied to all public officials who have unlawfully acquired assets.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Yes.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, so, halimbawa,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ibig ninyong sabihin iyong mga tipong flood control, ganoon?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Opo.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Ang, ang puwede pong gawin diyan is just to file civil forfeiture cases under RA 1379 po.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Kasi under that law eh nakalagay po doon na any public official who has assets that are manifestly out of proportion to his salary and other legitimate sources of income,

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: there is already a presumption po na ill-gotten iyan.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: And so, the burden of proof shifts to the public official to explain how he was able to amass so much assets, given na this is only salary.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Kaya nga po mapapansin ninyo, iyong, iyong decision po ng Sandiganbayan doon sa Swiss accounts po tsaka Arelma, summary judgment po iyon.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: In other words, it's just based on the pleadings.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Mahirap ho kasi ang criminal case

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: kasi, ang unang-una po, ang quantum of evidence

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: is proof beyond reasonable doubt,

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: and you have to establish iyong, iyong paper trail to show na iyong asset na iyan came from government funds.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Could you just explain further ano iyong ibig sabihin ng summary judgment?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Opo.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: By foreign courts?

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Dito po.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: By local courts.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Sandiganbayan po ang nag-render ng summary judgment.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, okay.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Iyong pong isang summary judgment na iyan, opo, kasama iyong Arelma.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Ah, the Philippine government filed a petition for forfeiture—ay, for enforcement of foreign judgment po sa New York.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Eh nanalo po tayo diyan.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: There was an appeal.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Recently eh lumabas na po iyong decision.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: We won the appeal po.

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PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: So, we are just waiting for the action of the U.S. Supreme Court if they will still, uh, affirm the decision of the Court of Appeals po ng, ano, ng New York.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Well, Chair,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ah, nagpapasalamat po ako sa chair ng PCGG.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We, we look forward doon sa report, no, iyong kabuuang summary ng mga efforts na ginagawa ng komisyon para ituloy ang laban para bawiin ang ill-gotten wealth ng pamilyang Marcos.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ang sinasabi po rito, may ₱70 billion pa.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ₱70 billion na kailangang bawiin.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, we look forward to that report, Mr. Chair,

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: thank you.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, po.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, po.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ah, Cong. Tony Tinio?

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May we recognize Chair Mika Suansing for her manifestation.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Vice Chair Mike.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you for presiding over today's deliberation on the budget of the Department of Justice.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Iniwan ko po kayo, Sec, kay Vice Chair Mike Tan because you're in very...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: You're in very good hands with him and he did so well today in facilitating all the discussions.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you so much, Vice Chair Mike Tan.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, I just wanted to, po, wrap up essentially everything that was discussed today.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I think it all boils down to the budgetary requirements of the DOJ.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I was looking through your slides, Sec, and very clear naman that in terms of MOOE, in terms of capital outlay,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ang laki ng binagsak ng budget.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ng DOJ.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I'm looking at the agency-wise allocations.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The one that stands out to me is Bureau of Immigration.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Malaki po talaga yung nawala sa Bureau of Immigration.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: It's not just the capital outlay, the locally funded project, kasi yun po yata yung ICT.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: But even the GASS.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Malaki talaga yung binagsak.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: May I know, po?

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Which...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Specific components of the GASS were reduced.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: May I have a better idea of what we would need to restore, if ever?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Magandang gabi po, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung pong sa maintenance and other operating expenses, or MOOE, tinanggalan po kami ng 673,476,000.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po ang breakdown nun.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Additional provision for a drug-free workplace initiative.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: In the amount of...

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 3,403,000.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Additional MOOE for EXPATS.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po yung aming expanded alien registration system.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Umiikot po yung mga tao po namin sa buong Pilipinas para mag-alien mapping.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tinanggalan po kami ng budget para doon ng 18,871,000.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And then, yun din pong MOOE for locally funded projects for the development, enhancement, and procurement of IT systems and infrastructures.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang amount po niyan is 651,202,000.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po, Your Honor, sa capital outlay, tinanggalan rin po kami ng 1,227,811,000.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Representing yung pong capital outlay for locally funded projects for the development, enhancement, and procurement of IT systems and infrastructures.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po yung sa aming main office and sa support offices po namin over the Philippines.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang amount po diyan na tinanggal is 951,531,000.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And last po, tinanggalan din po kami para sa post-construction ng aming bagong BI building in the amount of 276,280,000.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Dati po kasi ma'am, hindi po namin ma-request ito kasi ang sabi po ng DBM, hindi pa po kami nakakalipat sa building.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po, nakalipat na po kami recently.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, pero po kailangan po namin ng additional funding

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Para po sa post-construction, Your Honor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kom, I'd have to coordinate with you po because, like for example, just the Bureau of Immigration alone, that's a very substantive amount that would need to be restored if ever.

asr-000167
00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:17.439
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, given the limited fiscal space, we'd really have to prioritize which items we would need.

asr-000168
00:11:17.800 --> 00:11:18.420
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, in the Bureau of Immigration...

asr-000169
00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:29.560
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: In the Bureau of Immigration alone, we're looking at over 1.1, 1.2 billion, kasi nabanggit niyo po, IT system pa lang, 1 plus billion na po.

asr-000170
00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:41.139
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, siguro po, Kom, with SEC, kasi it's going to be one, essentially one list coming from DOJ.

asr-000171
00:11:41.680 --> 00:11:48.900
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, when Sec gives the list to me for items for consideration,

asr-000172
00:11:48.920 --> 00:11:55.740
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ipa-prioritize na natin siya, Sec, among the different attached agencies within the DOJ.

asr-000173
00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.700
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, we'll have to look through that later on.

asr-000174
00:11:58.754 --> 00:11:59.074
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-000175
00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:04.380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We'll gladly submit that wish list with the corresponding order of prioritization.

asr-000176
00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:09.320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we will do the proper consultation with the various agencies here.

asr-000177
00:12:09.487 --> 00:12:09.960
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Yes, po.

asr-000178
00:12:10.079 --> 00:12:19.459
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kasi usually po, di ba, I really ask for the help of the head of the agency to essentially rationalize all the requests from the different agencies.

asr-000179
00:12:20.920 --> 00:12:24.020
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, thank you, Kom, for enlightening us.

asr-000180
00:12:24.040 --> 00:12:31.260
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Actually, as I was looking through the NEP, like, stand out sa akin yung over 1 billion reduction sa Bureau of Immigration alone.

asr-000181
00:12:31.920 --> 00:12:38.040
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And then now that I'm looking through the presentation of the Department of Justice as a whole,

asr-000182
00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:42.960
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: mas nakita ko na it's not just one agency that experienced that.

asr-000183
00:12:43.160 --> 00:12:44.900
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: It's actually across the board.

asr-000184
00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.279
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, next po, we have...

asr-000185
00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:48.899
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sorry, po.

asr-000186
00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.060
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Medyo himayin ko lang siya, so I know where to focus.

asr-000187
00:12:54.680 --> 00:13:09.020
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Under the law enforcement program, siguro po, dito ako nagulat because a lot of the items that are considered priorities at the moment received a substantial cut.

asr-000188
00:13:09.040 --> 00:13:15.860
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: For example po, anti-trafficking in persons enforcement, that got a 41% decrease.

asr-000189
00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:19.160
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And ito talagang nagulat ako because this is a LEDAC measure.

asr-000190
00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.380
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: We even amended the OSAEC law.

asr-000191
00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:25.580
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: OSAEC got a 59% decrease.

asr-000192
00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:30.350
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, yun po siguro, i-consider natin siguro, Sek, yun.

asr-000193
00:13:30.385 --> 00:13:31.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will put them in the priority.

asr-000194
00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:32.760
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, po.

asr-000195
00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:36.360
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: What else?

asr-000196
00:13:38.160 --> 00:13:43.640
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: For the corrections program, over half cut from the victims' compensation services.

asr-000197
00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:48.980
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: For the NBI?

asr-000198
00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:49.572
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Okay.

asr-000199
00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.440
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Director Melvin, nakita ko yung sa NBI, yung cut.

asr-000200
00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:59.520
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sobrang laki din po for general administration support services.

asr-000201
00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:02.780
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: 42% yung nawala po.

asr-000202
00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:09.680
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So, may you just enlighten me as to what items were cut within the GASS.

asr-000203
00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:11.839
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Thank you, Madam Chair.

asr-000204
00:14:12.079 --> 00:14:18.679
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: There are six items na we want sana na ma-address yung mabalik, but there are a lot na tanggal.

asr-000205
00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.680
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung isa po, number one, yung priority ko is sana we increase the hazard pay

asr-000207
00:14:22.959 --> 00:14:26.899
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of our agents, only the agents, from 4,000 to 15,000.

asr-000208
00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:30.319
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Medyo hindi na po kami at par with other law enforcement.

asr-000209
00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:36.900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, we've been transferring agents from one province to another, and it's very difficult

asr-000210
00:14:36.920 --> 00:14:40.600
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: for them to cope up with the transfer.

asr-000211
00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:42.199
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, nahihirapan po kami na mag-ikot.

asr-000212
00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:51.040
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Number two, we are doing now an operation, so about 200 to 220 average operations per month.

asr-000213
00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:52.200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Ito po yung mga kasama.

asr-000214
00:14:52.560 --> 00:14:53.840
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasama na po diyan yung mga [unclear].

asr-000215
00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:57.820
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Lahat na po, financial scams, cybercrimes, and everything.

asr-000216
00:14:58.680 --> 00:14:59.059
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So, right now, we are...

asr-000217
00:14:59.079 --> 00:15:04.099
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Right now, we are asking for the increase; we're spending so much for the COPLAN.

asr-000218
00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:09.160
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: If you will just—yung pong COPLAN na tinatawag—when we do the operations,

asr-000219
00:15:09.880 --> 00:15:12.720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: nandoon po lahat yung data na kailangan, including the expenses.

asr-000220
00:15:13.839 --> 00:15:17.679
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Normally, we are averaging the expenses nasa minimum 100.

asr-000221
00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:22.959
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So if you put to 100 po yung sa co-plan namin, averaging at 200 to 220,

asr-000222
00:15:23.079 --> 00:15:29.479
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: mga 44 billion a month na po yung kailangan namin dyan to continue what we've been doing.

asr-000223
00:15:29.959 --> 00:15:36.459
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: At meron po kaming upgrade sana ng equipment, yung pong sa mga drones na kailangan namin bilhin,

asr-000224
00:15:37.160 --> 00:15:43.360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and other issues that we want to address in order for us also to address yung administrative capability namin.

asr-000225
00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:49.039
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We want to do yung pong ISO namin, gusto rin namin sanang gawin doon.

asr-000226
00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:52.619
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And another is purchase of additional vehicles,

asr-000227
00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.499
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which is very critical in our operations.

asr-000228
00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:59.020
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: A lot of our vehicles right now are marked or red plate po.

asr-000229
00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:03.580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So we cannot do the operations using the marked vehicles,

asr-000230
00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.480
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kasi darating pa lang po kami, sasabihin, ‘Andiyan yung mga NBI, may gagawin.’

asr-000231
00:16:07.680 --> 00:16:12.400
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So those are the things po na kinat po sa amin, medyo marami po talaga.

asr-000232
00:16:13.319 --> 00:16:17.639
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We recognize yung sa budget utilization on the previous year,

asr-000233
00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:21.900
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and we have plugged it down, and if we look at the mandate given by the Congress,

asr-000234
00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:22.280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na nag-expand po yung aming

asr-000235
00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:24.860
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: investigative power,

asr-000236
00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:28.700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which we have to cope up, especially in the issues po of cybercrime.

asr-000237
00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:33.360
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: About 8 out of 10 crimes, related na po yung cyber, 80%.

asr-000238
00:16:34.079 --> 00:16:37.179
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So yan po yung isa namin gusto sanang ma-address.

asr-000239
00:16:37.199 --> 00:16:42.199
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Right now, we are sharing the tools that CICC have,

asr-000240
00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:44.700
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pero sana po meron din kami capability.

asr-000241
00:16:45.079 --> 00:16:51.739
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So siguro may mga Congs po na very concerned in their district to address also those crimes.

asr-000242
00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:57.720
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: We are looking forward to put up cybercrime laboratories sana sa mga regions.

asr-000243
00:16:58.079 --> 00:17:04.459
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And those things po, those are all law enforcement tools and equipment that we need

asr-000244
00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:06.539
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: para po medyo makahabol.

asr-000245
00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:13.719
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasama na po dyan yung issue ng shooting sa Ateneo de Zamboanga and also sa Tacloban.

asr-000246
00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:20.779
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Meron po kaming mga continuous monitoring that we need the support po of the Committee on Appropriations

asr-000247
00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.479
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to address these concerns po.

asr-000248
00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:23.200
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Salamat po.

asr-000249
00:17:23.682 --> 00:17:25.022
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Director Melvin.

asr-000250
00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:28.640
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Actually, you were talking about anti-cybercrime.

asr-000251
00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:31.600
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And nakita ko, hindi ko pa lang po nabanggit kanina,

asr-000252
00:17:31.840 --> 00:17:36.200
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: aside from anti-trafficking in persons enforcement and OSAEC,

asr-000253
00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:40.319
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: yung anti-cybercrime pala sobrang laki ng binagsak, 71%.

asr-000254
00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.500
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Across the board, looking at the corrections program,

asr-000255
00:17:45.520 --> 00:17:47.560
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: half from the victims' compensation,

asr-000256
00:17:48.360 --> 00:17:50.480
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: looking at the legal services program,

asr-000257
00:17:51.280 --> 00:17:52.980
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: 15% from the...

asr-000258
00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.400
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: refugee and stateless persons protection unit.

asr-000259
00:17:56.679 --> 00:18:02.139
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sa BuCor, natanggalan din po sa GASS, 13%.

asr-000260
00:18:02.159 --> 00:18:06.300
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sa immigration, we've discussed that already.

asr-000261
00:18:06.320 --> 00:18:09.580
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: LRA, nabawasan din yung GASS by 12%.

asr-000262
00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.980
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: OGCC, nabawasan din yung GASS.

asr-000263
00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:19.240
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So across the board talaga yung general administration and support services.

asr-000264
00:18:20.280 --> 00:18:22.260
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And then for OSG,

asr-000265
00:18:22.280 --> 00:18:26.340
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: operations got cut by 8%.

asr-000266
00:18:27.600 --> 00:18:31.140
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: PPA, 36% din sa GASS.

asr-000267
00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:38.140
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And PCGG, 64%, less RLIP and special account.

asr-000268
00:18:38.840 --> 00:18:40.140
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So across the board,

asr-000269
00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.700
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: it's very helpful that you were able to segment it in this manner,

asr-000270
00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:49.460
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: kasi at least nakikita namin na each agency talaga,

asr-000271
00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:52.659
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: even OADR, GASS din and operations,

asr-000273
00:18:52.679 --> 00:18:57.339
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So we're able to see the cuts across the board within the DOJ.

asr-000274
00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:03.980
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So SEC, we'll work together po with Vice Chair Mike Tan

asr-000275
00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:09.580
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: in terms of prioritizing the items for consideration in restoration.

asr-000276
00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:13.160
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Because as you know po, here in the Committee on Appropriations,

asr-000277
00:19:13.360 --> 00:19:15.280
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: one of the important reforms that we've done

asr-000278
00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.760
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: was we now have the Budget Amendments Review Subcommittee,

asr-000279
00:19:18.919 --> 00:19:22.059
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: which deliberates on,

asr-000280
00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:24.220
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and discusses line by line,

asr-000281
00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:28.500
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: all the amendments that we would incorporate into the GAB.

asr-000282
00:19:28.800 --> 00:19:33.940
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And those amendments po would come from the request,

asr-000283
00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.900
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: the institutional amendments request emanating from the agencies.

asr-000284
00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.760
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So hihingi po sana kami ng tulong ninyo,

asr-000285
00:19:42.840 --> 00:19:48.940
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: all the heads of agencies and all of our officials po in the DOJ,

asr-000286
00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:50.960
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: please help us po, please guide us,

asr-000287
00:19:51.159 --> 00:19:51.860
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: so that,

asr-000288
00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.880
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: when we do prioritize items for restoration,

asr-000289
00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.000
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: at least po, it's in line with the priorities of the agencies.

asr-000290
00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:02.080
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Sayang naman po kung malagyan namin ng pondo yung isang bagay,

asr-000291
00:20:02.360 --> 00:20:05.360
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: na hindi naman talaga yun yung priority ng ahensya.

asr-000292
00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:09.340
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So in this, in this, ano po, in this process,

asr-000293
00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:10.360
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: let's partner po.

asr-000294
00:20:10.600 --> 00:20:16.600
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So we would best allocate and optimize the utilization of resources,

asr-000295
00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:20.380
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: given our very limited fiscal space.

asr-000296
00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:21.400
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So SEC, sorry po.

asr-000297
00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:22.640
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Magse-set lang ako ng

asr-000298
00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.180
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: kung kaya po sana,

asr-000299
00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:28.200
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: if you can send us within the week,

asr-000300
00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:31.820
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: best po if you can send it ASAP,

asr-000301
00:20:31.840 --> 00:20:36.440
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: just so we're able to consolidate everything before the deliberation of the BARC.

asr-000302
00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:37.639
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-000303
00:20:37.679 --> 00:20:38.480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will comply.

asr-000304
00:20:38.520 --> 00:20:42.400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will comply and definitely submit a comprehensive listing

asr-000305
00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:46.000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the appropriate prioritization per agency.

asr-000306
00:20:46.942 --> 00:20:51.942
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And then I'll also defer to Vice Chair Mike,

asr-000307
00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:58.700
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: if in case there's like back and forth before we finalize the prioritized list.

asr-000308
00:20:58.720 --> 00:20:59.220
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Yun lang.

asr-000309
00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:02.240
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: I think yun po, that's the most important,

asr-000310
00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:05.400
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: my most important role in this hearing,

asr-000311
00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:13.019
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: which is to make sure that we're able to best identify the items that would require restoration.

asr-000312
00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:16.039
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So on our part po, best effort.

asr-000313
00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:20.080
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: But again, we all recognize that we have limited fiscal space.

asr-000314
00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:26.559
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: But we'll make sure po that we're able to allocate resources in the most optimized manner.

asr-000315
00:21:26.600 --> 00:21:27.100
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you.

asr-000316
00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:27.539
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you.

asr-000317
00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:28.139
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you SEC.

asr-000318
00:21:28.159 --> 00:21:33.049
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you to the officials po of the DOJ. Ay, sorry po.

asr-000319
00:21:34.360 --> 00:21:37.220
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And lastly po, lastly po,

asr-000320
00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:43.240
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we recognize the great work that the DOJ and all the attached agencies have been doing,

asr-000321
00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:47.980
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: especially from the law enforcement side.

asr-000322
00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:49.000
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: And ano po,

asr-000323
00:21:49.120 --> 00:21:51.120
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we want to recognize that by also equipping you

asr-000324
00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:53.420
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: with the resources that you need

asr-000325
00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:56.440
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: to be able to perform your mandates better.

asr-000326
00:21:56.679 --> 00:21:59.340
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So we're your partners po.

asr-000327
00:21:59.360 --> 00:22:00.100
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Alam niyo naman po 'yan.

asr-000328
00:22:00.120 --> 00:22:06.120
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: We're always in support of all the projects and programs that you are,

asr-000329
00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.060
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and all the good that you are doing for our country.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So I just wanted to take this opportunity.

asr-000331
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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Maraming maraming salamat po for all the great work that you're doing.

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00:22:18.080 --> 00:22:19.550
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Chair Mika.

asr-000333
00:22:20.560 --> 00:22:23.240
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Uh, may we solicit a motion to terminate

asr-000334
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:27.750
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the budget briefing of the DOJ and its attached agencies?

asr-000335
00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:30.960
Rep. Ann Matibag: Madam Chair, I move to terminate today's—

asr-000336
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Rep. Ann Matibag: I move that we suspend the committee proceedings

asr-000337
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Rep. Ann Matibag: and resume tomorrow, August 25, 2026 at 9 a.m.

asr-000338
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Rep. Ann Matibag: So I so move, Madam Chair.

asr-000339
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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ah, there is a motion.

asr-000340
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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Duly seconded.

asr-000341
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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The— for the Andaya Hall,

asr-000342
00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.240
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the committee proceedings are now suspended

asr-000343
00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.600
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and will resume tomorrow, August 25, 2026.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: at 9 a.m.

