# House Plenary: FY 2027 General Appropriations Bill Day 9 - September 25, 2026

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**[00:06:54.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000014)  
Session resumed. Majority Leader.

**[00:06:57.700] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000015)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to take up additional reference of business and for this purpose, may request that the Secretary General be directed to read the titles of bills and resolutions on first reading, as well as communications and committee reports.

**[00:07:10.630] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000016)  
Is there an objection? The Chair hears none. The Secretary General is directed to read the titles of the bills and resolutions on first reading as well as the messages, communications, and committee reports for referral to the appropriate committee.

**[00:07:27.720] Secretary-General** (asr-000017)  
Additional reference of business. Bills on first reading. House Bill 11453, expanding the purposes and application of the Special Education Fund by Representative Frasco.

**[00:07:38.090] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000018)  
The Committee on Local Government and the Committee on Basic Education and Culture.

**[00:07:42.100] Secretary-General** (asr-000019)  
House Bill 11454, imposing excise tax on single-use plastic bags by Representative Tan, Keith Micah.

**[00:07:48.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000020)  
The Committee on Ways and Means.

**[00:07:50.930] Secretary-General** (asr-000021)  
House Bill 11455, providing for a Philippine Psychology Professionalization Act by Representative Nisay.

**[00:07:57.390] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000022)  
The Committee on Civil Service and Professional Regulation and the Committee on Health.

**[00:08:02.220] Secretary-General** (asr-000023)  
House Bill 11456, granting the Siargao Electric Cooperative, Inc. a franchise for the conveyance of electric power to the end users in certain municipalities in the Province of Surigao del Norte by Representatives Dagooc, De Jesus, and Matugas.

**[00:08:15.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000024)  
The Committee on Legislative Franchises.

**[00:08:17.590] Secretary-General** (asr-000025)  
House Bill 11457, increasing the compulsory age of retirement for officers and non-officers of the PNP from 56 years old to 57 years old by Representative Yamsuan.

**[00:08:28.070] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000026)  
The Committee on Public Order and Safety.

**[00:08:30.260] Secretary-General** (asr-000027)  
House Bill 11458, providing for the rank classification and organization of key positions in the BFP and the BJMP by Representative Yamsuan.

**[00:08:38.890] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000028)  
The Committee on Public Order and Safety.

**[00:08:41.110] Secretary-General** (asr-000029)  
House Bill 11459, promoting the installation of behind-the-meter electricity generation and energy storage systems by Representative Yamsuan.

**[00:08:48.860] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000030)  
The Committee on Energy.

**[00:08:50.550] Secretary-General** (asr-000031)  
House Bill 11460, requiring disaster-related information to be stated in accessible language to ensure public understanding thereof to protect public health and safety by Representative Yamsuan.

**[00:09:00.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000033)  
The Committee on Disaster Resilience.

**[00:09:02.820] Secretary-General** (asr-000034)  
House Bill 11461, mandating the proper installation, maintenance, management, and removal of dangling and non-operational overhead utility wires and cables by all entities authorized to install or maintain aerial utility cables by Representative Yamsuan.

**[00:09:16.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000035)  
The Committee on Public Works and Highways.

**[00:09:18.180] Secretary-General** (asr-000036)  
House Bill 11462, institutionalizing a comprehensive electronic waste management system, mandating extended producer responsibility, providing infrastructure and incentives for e-waste recycling by Representative Yamsuan.

**[00:09:30.960] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000037)  
The Committee on Ecology.

**[00:09:32.600] Secretary-General** (asr-000038)  
House Bill 11463, upgrading the salary grade of dentists employed in the public sector by Representative Yamsuan.

**[00:09:39.120] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000039)  
The Committee on Appropriations.

**[00:09:40.680] Secretary-General** (asr-000040)  
House Bill 11464, protecting children from contact and discovery by strangers in online games, requiring that the communication and discovery features...

**[00:09:48.180] Secretary-General** (asr-000041)  
...of online gaming platforms be closed by default for children, establishing the Kuya-Ate Guardian System, prohibiting the solicitation of children to move to private channels, the trafficking of age-verified accounts, and the hosting of mass attack recreations by Representative Catulpos.

**[00:10:02.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000042)  
The Committee on Welfare of Children.

**[00:10:05.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000043)  
House Bill 11465, amending Sections 149 and 150 of the National Internal Revenue Code of 1997 by Representative Quimbo.

**[00:10:12.260] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000044)  
The Committee on Ways and Means.

**[00:10:13.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000045)  
House Bill 11466, strengthening the protection, conservation, and sustainable development...

**[00:10:18.180] Secretary-General** (asr-000046)  
...of the Sierra Madre Mountain Range, creating the Sierra Madre Mountain Range Authority by Representative Vergara.

**[00:10:23.840] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000047)  
The Committee on Government, Enterprises, and Privatization.

**[00:10:27.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000048)  
House Bill 11467, strengthening the protection, conservation, and sustainable development...

**[00:10:31.620] Secretary-General** (asr-000049)  
...of the Sierra Madre Mountain Range, creating the Sierra Madre Mountain Range Authority by Representative Ko.

**[00:10:36.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000050)  
The Committee on Government, Enterprises, and Privatization.

**[00:10:41.580] Secretary-General** (asr-000051)  
House Bill 11468, creating a dental unit in every rural health unit as part of the primary healthcare approach...

**[00:10:48.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000052)  
...in the delivery of health services by Representative Olivares.

**[00:10:51.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000053)  
The Committee on Health.

**[00:10:52.820] Secretary-General** (asr-000054)  
House Bill 11469, mandating the DOH to establish a Research Center on Obesity Prevention by Representative Olivares.

**[00:11:00.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000055)  
The Committee on Health.

**[00:11:01.560] Secretary-General** (asr-000056)  
House Bill 11470, providing for free maintenance medications, vitamins, and mineral supplements for senior citizens by Representative Olivares.

**[00:11:08.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000057)  
The Committee on Senior Citizens.

**[00:11:09.640] Secretary-General** (asr-000058)  
House Bill 11471, providing fresh Filipino graduates of Philippine higher education and technical vocational institutions and programs...

**[00:11:16.980] Secretary-General** (asr-000059)  
...with a one-time cash grant of Php5,000 by Representative Olivarez.

**[00:11:21.370] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000060)  
The Committee on Higher and Technical Education.

**[00:11:23.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000060-split-2)  
House Bill 11472, integrating palliative and hospice care into the Philippine healthcare system by Representative Olivares.

**[00:11:31.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000061)  
The Committee on Health.

**[00:11:33.300] Secretary-General** (asr-000062)  
House Resolution 1472, expressing the profound condolences of the House of Representatives...

**[00:11:38.660] Secretary-General** (asr-000063)  
...on the demise of Hon. Dakila Carlo Dax Kua, Governor of the Province of Quirino...

**[00:11:42.780] Secretary-General** (asr-000064)  
...and honoring his years of dedicated public service by Representative Olivares.

**[00:11:46.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000065)  
The Committee on Rules.

**[00:11:48.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000066)  
House Resolution 1473, expressing the profound sympathy and sincere condolences of the House...

**[00:11:52.540] Secretary-General** (asr-000067)  
...on the demise of the Hon. Ciriaco B. Gato, Jr., M.D., FPSO, HNS, Representative of the Lone District of Batanes...

**[00:12:00.080] Secretary-General** (asr-000068)  
...and honoring his dedicated service to the Filipino people by Representative Olivares.

**[00:12:04.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000069)  
The Committee on Rules.

**[00:12:05.900] Secretary-General** (asr-000070)  
House Resolution 1474, expressing the profound condolences of the House...

**[00:12:09.660] Secretary-General** (asr-000071)  
...on the demise of veteran broadcast journalist, author, and social critic Oswaldo Walde Carbonell E. Avena...

**[00:12:15.440] Secretary-General** (asr-000072)  
...and honoring his outstanding contributions and distinguished career...

**[00:12:18.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000073)  
...by Representative Olivares.

**[00:12:19.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000074)  
The Committee on Rules.

**[00:12:21.700] Secretary-General** (asr-000075)  
Communication.

**[00:12:22.500] Secretary-General** (asr-000076)  
Decision and entry of judgment from the Office of the Clerk of Court, Supreme Court, Manila...

**[00:12:26.320] Secretary-General** (asr-000077)  
...furnishing the House of Representatives with a copy of Supreme Court en banc Decision and Entry of Judgment on GR No. 260538.

**[00:12:33.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000078)  
To the Committee on Transportation.

**[00:12:36.020] Secretary-General** (asr-000079)  
Subpoenas duces tecum.

**[00:12:37.300] Secretary-General** (asr-000080)  
Pursuant to Section 153, Rule 24 of the Rules of the House of Representatives...

**[00:12:42.140] Secretary-General** (asr-000081)  
...informing the House that, in reference to the subpoena duces tecum relative to OMB-C-C-FEB-C...

**[00:12:48.060] Secretary-General** (asr-000082)  
...26-0019 and OMB-C-A-FEB-26-0021, dated March 23, 2096, issued by the OIC Director, Preliminary Investigation and Administrative Adjudication Bureau B, Office of the Ombudsman...

**[00:13:01.520] Secretary-General** (asr-000083)  
...and pursuant to Section 153, Rule 24 of the Rules of the House, transmitting the subpoena duces tecum issued by the Office of the Ombudsman for the following...

**[00:13:08.940] Secretary-General** (asr-000084)  
...FF-C-APR-26-0370, dated May 22, 2096, issued by the Director for GIB-D, Office of the Ombudsman...

**[00:13:17.500] Secretary-General** (asr-000087)  
FF-[unclear]-NOV-25-0245, dated August 11, 2026, issued by the Assistant Ombudsman, FIO-2, and by the Ombudsman, Office of the Ombudsman. CRIM Case No. E-SB-26-CRM-044 and CRIM Case No. E-SB-26-CRM-047, dated September 13, 2026, issued by the Assistant Special Prosecutor-2 and by the Acting Director, Prosecution Bureau 11 and 13, Office of the Ombudsman.

**[00:13:42.420] Secretary-General** (asr-000089)  
And CRIM Case No. SB-26-CRM-0023, dated September 14, 2026, issued by the Assistant Special Prosecutor-2 and by the Acting Director, Prosecution Bureau 11 and 13, Office of the Ombudsman.

**[00:13:56.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000090)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:14:01.540] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000091)  
Mr. Speaker, under the calendar of unfinished business, I move to resume consideration of House Bill No. 10858, as contained in Committee Report No. 638.

**[00:14:11.880] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000092)  
And for this purpose, direct the Secretary General to read the title of the said measure.

**[00:14:15.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000093)  
There is a motion to consider House Bill...

**[00:14:18.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000094)  
...House Bill No. 10858, under Calendar Report No. 63638.

**[00:14:23.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000095)  
Is there an objection?

**[00:14:24.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000096)  
There is none.

**[00:14:25.260] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000097)  
The Secretary General is directed to do so.

**[00:14:28.360] Secretary-General** (asr-000098)  
House Bill No. 10858, an act appropriating funds for the operation of the Government of the Republic of the Philippines from January 1 to December 31, 2027.

**[00:14:40.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000099)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:14:41.020] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000100)  
Mr. Speaker, the parliamentary status of the House Bill No. 10858 is that it is in the period of deliberation...

**[00:14:48.060] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000101)  
...and debate, sponsorship and debate.

**[00:14:50.840] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000102)  
And now, I move for the consideration of the proposed budget of the Office of the Ombudsman.

**[00:14:56.420] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000103)  
There is a motion to consider the proposed budget of the Office of...

**[00:15:00.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000104)  
of the Ombudsman,

**[00:15:01.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000105)  
Is there any objection?

**[00:15:02.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000106)  
The Chair hears none.

**[00:15:03.620] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000107)  
Motion is carried.

**[00:15:05.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000108)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:15:06.700] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000109)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:15:07.580] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000110)  
may we acknowledge

**[00:15:08.140] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000111)  
the presence

**[00:15:08.760] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000112)  
of the heads and officials

**[00:15:09.920] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000113)  
from the Office

**[00:15:11.140] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000114)  
of the Ombudsman.

**[00:15:12.620] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000115)  
The Honorable Ombudsman

**[00:15:13.760] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000116)  
Jesus Crispin Remulla,

**[00:15:15.780] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000117)  
Deputy Ombudsman

**[00:15:16.780] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000118)  
Dante Vargas,

**[00:15:18.280] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000119)  
Deputy Ombudsman

**[00:15:19.360] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000120)  
Jose Valmeo,

**[00:15:20.800] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000121)  
Jr.,

**[00:15:21.660] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000122)  
Special Prosecutor

**[00:15:22.880] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000123)  
Marie Flor

**[00:15:23.460] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000124)  
Poncelan Castillo,

**[00:15:25.180] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000125)  
Assistant Ombudsman

**[00:15:26.220] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000126)  
Jose Dominic Clavano,

**[00:15:28.160] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000127)  
Assistant Ombudsman

**[00:15:29.160] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000128)  
Luis Gonzaga Bonuan,

**[00:15:31.400] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000129)  
Assistant Ombudsman

**[00:15:32.480] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000130)  
Margaret Riza Andaman,

**[00:15:34.680] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000131)  
Assistant Ombudsman

**[00:15:35.720] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000132)  
Elicio de la Cruz,

**[00:15:38.260] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000133)  
and Assistant Ombudsman

**[00:15:39.480] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000134)  
Sherwin Catula.

**[00:15:41.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000135)  
So the officials

**[00:15:42.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000136)  
and heads of the Office

**[00:15:43.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000137)  
of the Ombudsman

**[00:15:44.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000138)  
led by our colleague,

**[00:15:47.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000139)  
previous colleague,

**[00:15:48.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000140)  
Ombudsman Jesus Crispin Remulla,

**[00:15:50.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000141)  
Sir,

**[00:15:51.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000142)  
in behalf of Speaker Bojie Dy

**[00:15:53.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000143)  
and Majority Leader

**[00:15:55.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000144)  
Sandro Marcos,

**[00:15:56.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000145)  
welcome to the House

**[00:15:57.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000146)  
of Representatives.

**[00:15:59.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000147)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:16:00.600] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000148)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:16:01.480] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000149)  
I move to recognize

**[00:16:02.520] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000150)  
Honorable Rufus Rodriguez,

**[00:16:04.540] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000151)  
Vice Chairperson

**[00:16:05.560] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000152)  
of the Committee on Appropriations

**[00:16:07.200] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000153)  
to answer questions

**[00:16:08.260] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000154)  
on the proposed budget

**[00:16:09.260] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000155)  
of the Office of the Ombudsman.

**[00:16:10.860] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000156)  
Mr. Performance

**[00:16:11.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000157)  
from the City of Cagayan de Oro,

**[00:16:14.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000158)  
Honorable Rufus Rodriguez

**[00:16:16.120] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000159)  
may now deliver

**[00:16:17.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000160)  
his sponsorship speech.

**[00:16:18.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000161)  
Sir, you are recognized.

**[00:16:20.300] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000162)  
Thank you, Speaker.

**[00:16:22.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000163)  
Deputy Speaker,

**[00:16:23.800] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000164)  
coming from the Premier Province

**[00:16:25.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000165)  
of Misamis Oriental,

**[00:16:27.440] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000166)  
which is also

**[00:16:28.020] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000167)  
my mother province.

**[00:16:29.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000168)  
Good afternoon,

**[00:16:30.560] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000169)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[00:16:31.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000170)  
Our distinguished colleagues

**[00:16:33.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000171)  
present today,

**[00:16:36.120] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000172)  
the Honorable Crispin Boying Remulla,

**[00:16:40.100] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000173)  
our Ombudsman,

**[00:16:42.220] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000174)  
and the officialdom

**[00:16:43.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000175)  
of the Office of the Ombudsman,

**[00:16:46.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000176)  
good afternoon to everyone.

**[00:16:49.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000177)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:16:50.300] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000178)  
I rise today

**[00:16:51.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000179)  
to sponsor the proposed

**[00:16:54.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000180)  
fiscal year

**[00:16:55.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000181)  
2027 budget

**[00:16:57.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000182)  
of the Office

**[00:16:58.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000183)  
of the Ombudsman.

**[00:16:59.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000184)  
Amounting to

**[00:17:02.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000185)  
7.23 billion,

**[00:17:06.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000186)  
including automatic appropriations

**[00:17:09.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000187)  
and as the constitutional

**[00:17:11.720] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000188)  
protector of the people.

**[00:17:14.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000189)  
The Office of the Ombudsman

**[00:17:16.300] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000190)  
stands as a vital

**[00:17:18.620] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000191)  
vanguard against corruption,

**[00:17:21.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000192)  
inefficiency,

**[00:17:23.560] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000193)  
and high-handedness

**[00:17:24.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000194)  
in public service.

**[00:17:27.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000195)  
For fiscal year

**[00:17:28.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000196)  
2027,

**[00:17:29.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000197)  
may I request,

**[00:17:30.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000198)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:17:31.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000199)  
everybody to be silent.

**[00:17:33.200] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000200)  
May we request

**[00:17:33.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000201)  
order in the plenary?

**[00:17:37.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000202)  
Can we request

**[00:17:38.820] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000203)  
order in the plenary, please?

**[00:17:42.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000204)  
The gentleman from

**[00:17:43.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000205)  
Cagayan de Oro may proceed.

**[00:17:45.120] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000206)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:17:47.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000207)  
For fiscal year 2027,

**[00:17:50.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000208)  
the proposed budget

**[00:17:51.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000209)  
aims to fortify,

**[00:17:53.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000210)  
strengthen

**[00:17:54.480] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000211)  
the agency's core mandate of

**[00:17:57.240] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000212)  
strengthening

**[00:17:57.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000213)  
its investigative,

**[00:18:00.020] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000214)  
prosecutorial,

**[00:18:01.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000215)  
and administrative capabilities.

**[00:18:04.620] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000216)  
Key priority areas include

**[00:18:07.180] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000217)  
upgrading digital infrastructure

**[00:18:10.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000218)  
to enhance case tracking and forensic investigation,

**[00:18:17.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000219)  
building manpower capacity across regional offices

**[00:18:23.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000220)  
like the one in Mindanao

**[00:18:26.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000221)  
and expanding public assistance and corruption prevention initiatives.

**[00:18:33.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000222)  
Mr. Speaker, with these considerations,

**[00:18:37.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000223)  
I respectfully present the proposed fiscal year 2027 budget of the Office of the Ombudsman

**[00:18:47.180] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000224)  
for the consideration of this honorable chamber.

**[00:18:52.720] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000225)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This representation is now ready to answer questions from our colleagues.

**[00:19:00.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000226)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:19:02.360] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000227)  
Thank you very much,

**[00:19:04.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000228)  
Congressman Rufus Rodriguez,

**[00:19:06.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000229)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:19:08.680] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000230)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:19:10.420] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000231)  
there being no member

**[00:19:11.460] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000232)  
from the minority

**[00:19:12.420] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000233)  
who wishes to interpellate.

**[00:19:15.440] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000234)  
May I request the minority?

**[00:19:18.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000235)  
The chair recognizes

**[00:19:20.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000236)  
Honorable Renee Co.

**[00:19:24.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000237)  
Maraming salamat,

**[00:19:25.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000238)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[00:19:26.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000239)  
There being no member

**[00:19:27.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000240)  
of the minority,

**[00:19:29.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000242)  
who wishes to interpellate

**[00:19:31.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000243)  
the sponsor

**[00:19:33.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000244)  
on the budget

**[00:19:34.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000245)  
of the ombudsman.

**[00:19:35.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000246)  
I move to terminate

**[00:19:37.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000247)  
the deliberation

**[00:19:38.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000248)  
of the budget

**[00:19:39.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000249)  
of the ombudsman.

**[00:19:41.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-000250)  
So moved, Mr. Chair. Mr. Speaker.

**[00:19:42.680] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000251)  
What does the House say?

**[00:19:45.420] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000252)  
What does the House say?

**[00:19:47.400] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000253)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:19:48.300] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000254)  
on the part of the majority,

**[00:19:50.120] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000255)  
we join the minority

**[00:19:51.100] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000256)  
in the motion

**[00:19:51.740] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000257)  
to terminate the interpellations

**[00:19:53.420] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000258)  
on the proposed budget

**[00:19:54.840] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000259)  
of the Office of the Ombudsman.

**[00:19:56.300] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000260)  
There's a joint motion

**[00:19:57.360] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000261)  
to terminate

**[00:19:58.140] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000262)  
the interpellation

**[00:19:59.660] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000263)  
on the proposed budget

**[00:20:00.580] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000264)  
of the Office of the Ombudsman.

**[00:20:02.900] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000265)  
Is there any objection?

**[00:20:04.820] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000266)  
Hearing none,

**[00:20:05.380] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000267)  
the interpellation

**[00:20:06.100] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000268)  
on the proposed budget

**[00:20:07.020] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000269)  
of the Office of the Ombudsman

**[00:20:08.920] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000270)  
is hereby terminated.

**[00:20:11.480] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000271)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:20:13.300] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000272)  
my distinguished colleagues.

**[00:20:14.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000273)  
This is the fastest hearing

**[00:20:16.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000274)  
in the plenary

**[00:20:17.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000275)  
in the entire history

**[00:20:18.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000276)  
of our Congress

**[00:20:20.720] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000277)  
from 2007

**[00:20:21.860] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000278)  
when I was here

**[00:20:22.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000279)  
and we thank

**[00:20:23.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000280)  
our Majority Leader,

**[00:20:25.400] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000281)  
Sandro Marcos.

**[00:20:26.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000282)  
We thank our Speaker,

**[00:20:27.720] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000283)  
and all my distinguished colleagues.

**[00:20:30.400] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000284)  
Thank you, thank you very much

**[00:20:31.960] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000285)  
from the Office of the Ombudsman.

**[00:20:34.040] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000286)  
Thank you, [unclear] Rodriguez.

**[00:20:35.660] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000287)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:20:36.420] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000288)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:20:37.380] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000289)  
motion to suspend session

**[00:20:38.460] Rep. Marlyn L. Primicias-Agabas** (asr-000290)  
for a few minutes.

**[00:20:39.320] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-000291)  
Session is suspended.

**[00:23:24.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000296)  
Session is resumed.

**[00:23:26.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000297)  
Majority Leader,

**[00:23:27.720] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000298)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:23:32.740] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000299)  
I now move to consider

**[00:23:34.440] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000300)  
the proposed budget

**[00:23:36.140] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000301)  
of the Judiciary.

**[00:23:39.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000302)  
There is a motion

**[00:23:40.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000303)  
to consider

**[00:23:41.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000304)  
the proposed budget

**[00:23:42.420] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000305)  
of the Judiciary.

**[00:23:44.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000306)  
Is there any objection?

**[00:23:45.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000307)  
The Chair hears none.

**[00:23:46.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000308)  
Motion is carried.

**[00:23:48.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000309)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:23:49.780] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000310)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:23:51.200] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000311)  
may we acknowledge

**[00:23:52.140] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000312)  
the presence

**[00:23:52.900] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000313)  
of the heads and officials

**[00:23:54.400] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000314)  
from the Judiciary,

**[00:23:55.720] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000315)  
from the Supreme Court,

**[00:23:56.720] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000316)  
from the Supreme Court,

**[00:23:57.720] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000317)  
Associate Justice Rodil Zalameda,

**[00:24:01.740] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000318)  
Associate Justice Ricardo Rosario,

**[00:24:04.900] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000319)  
Associate Justice Joseph Lopez,

**[00:24:08.400] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000320)  
Court Administrator

**[00:24:09.500] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000321)  
Maria Teresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta,

**[00:24:14.480] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000322)  
Deputy Court Administrator

**[00:24:16.120] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000323)  
Lilian Baribalco,

**[00:24:18.200] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000324)  
Deputy Clerk of Court

**[00:24:19.620] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000325)  
Marilyn Dehoya.

**[00:24:21.400] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000326)  
For the Sandigan Bayan,

**[00:24:23.140] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000327)  
Presiding Justice

**[00:24:24.280] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000328)  
Geraldine Faith Econg,

**[00:24:26.440] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000329)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:27.540] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000330)  
Henel Gito,

**[00:24:28.860] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000331)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:30.380] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000332)  
Ronaldo Chua.

**[00:24:31.460] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000333)  
For the Court of Appeals,

**[00:24:33.180] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000334)  
Presiding Justice

**[00:24:34.820] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000335)  
Fernanda Lampas Peralta,

**[00:24:37.100] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000336)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:38.620] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000337)  
Florencio Mamuag Jr.,

**[00:24:40.340] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000338)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:41.900] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000339)  
Eduardo Peralta Jr.,

**[00:24:43.580] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000340)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:45.620] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000341)  
Eduardo Ramos Jr.,

**[00:24:47.260] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000342)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:48.820] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000343)  
Rogelio Largo,

**[00:24:50.220] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000344)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:51.900] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000345)  
Jennifer Joy Ong,

**[00:24:53.580] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000346)  
Associate Justice

**[00:24:54.960] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000347)  
Walter Ong,

**[00:24:55.880] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000348)  
and for the Court of Tax Appeals,

**[00:24:57.320] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000349)  
Presiding Justice

**[00:24:59.120] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000350)  
Maria Belen Ringpis-Liban,

**[00:25:01.360] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000351)  
and Associate Justice

**[00:25:02.580] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000352)  
Corazon Ferrer-Flores.

**[00:25:05.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000353)  
To the Honorable Members

**[00:25:06.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000354)  
of the Judiciary,

**[00:25:08.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000355)  
from the Supreme Court,

**[00:25:10.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000356)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:11.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000357)  
Rodil Zalameda,

**[00:25:13.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000358)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:13.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000359)  
Ricardo Rosario,

**[00:25:16.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000360)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:17.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000361)  
Joseph Lopez,

**[00:25:19.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000362)  
Court Administrator

**[00:25:20.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000363)  
Maria Teresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta,

**[00:25:24.620] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000364)  
Deputy Court Administrator

**[00:25:26.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000365)  
Lilian Baribalco,

**[00:25:27.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000366)  
Deputy Clerk of Court

**[00:25:29.360] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000367)  
Mariline Dehoya,

**[00:25:30.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000368)  
from the Office of the

**[00:25:32.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000369)  
Sandigan Bayan,

**[00:25:35.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000370)  
Presiding Justice

**[00:25:36.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000371)  
Geraldine Faith Econg,

**[00:25:37.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000372)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:38.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000373)  
Ener Guito,

**[00:25:40.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000374)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:41.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000375)  
Ronald Chua,

**[00:25:43.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000376)  
from the Court of Appeals,

**[00:25:45.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000377)  
Presiding Justice

**[00:25:46.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000378)  
Fernanda Lampas Peralta,

**[00:25:49.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000379)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:49.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000380)  
Florencio Mamuag,

**[00:25:53.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000381)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:53.840] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000382)  
Eduardo Peralta Jr.,

**[00:25:55.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000383)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:56.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000384)  
Eduardo Ramos,

**[00:25:57.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000385)  
Associate Justice

**[00:25:59.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000386)  
Rogelio Largo,

**[00:26:01.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000387)  
Associate Justice

**[00:26:02.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000388)  
Jennifer Joy Ong,

**[00:26:04.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000389)  
Associate Justice

**[00:26:05.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000390)  
Walter S. Ong,

**[00:26:07.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000391)  
from the Court of Tax Appeals,

**[00:26:09.300] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000392)  
Presiding Justice

**[00:26:10.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000393)  
Maria Belen Ringpis-Liban,

**[00:26:12.200] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000394)  
and Associate Justice

**[00:26:13.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000395)  
Corazon Ferrer-Flores.

**[00:26:15.860] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000396)  
Your Honors,

**[00:26:16.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000397)  
in behalf of

**[00:26:17.960] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000398)  
Speaker Bojie Dy

**[00:26:19.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000399)  
and Majority Leader

**[00:26:21.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000400)  
Sandro Marcos,

**[00:26:23.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000401)  
Sir, Ma'am,

**[00:26:23.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000402)  
welcome to the House

**[00:26:25.020] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000403)  
of Representatives.

**[00:26:27.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000404)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:26:30.760] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000405)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:26:31.680] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000406)  
I move to recognize

**[00:26:33.120] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000407)  
Representative Rufus Rodriguez,

**[00:26:35.880] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000408)  
Vice Chairperson

**[00:26:36.880] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000409)  
of the Committee

**[00:26:37.580] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000410)  
on Appropriations

**[00:26:39.000] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000411)  
to answer questions

**[00:26:40.260] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000412)  
on proposed budget

**[00:26:41.080] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000413)  
of the Judiciary.

**[00:26:43.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000414)  
The gentleman

**[00:26:44.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000415)  
from the 2nd District

**[00:26:45.620] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000416)  
of Cagayan,

**[00:26:46.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000417)  
de Oro,

**[00:26:47.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000418)  
Mr. Performance,

**[00:26:48.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000419)  
Honorable Rufus Rodriguez

**[00:26:50.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000420)  
may now deliver

**[00:26:51.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000421)  
his sponsorship speech.

**[00:26:52.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000422)  
Sir, you have the floor.

**[00:26:54.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000423)  
Thank you,

**[00:26:55.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000424)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[00:26:57.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000425)  
Distinguished Colleagues,

**[00:27:00.440] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000426)  
our Associate Justices

**[00:27:02.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000427)  
of the Supreme Court,

**[00:27:04.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000428)  
the Sandigan Bayan,

**[00:27:06.700] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000429)  
the Court of Appeals

**[00:27:07.700] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000430)  
and the Court of Tax Appeals,

**[00:27:09.480] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000431)  
and the officialdom

**[00:27:10.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000432)  
of these courts.

**[00:27:14.220] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000433)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:27:15.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000434)  
it is my distinct honor

**[00:27:16.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000435)  
and privilege

**[00:27:17.800] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000436)  
to stand before you today

**[00:27:20.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000437)  
to sponsor and present

**[00:27:22.660] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000438)  
the proposed budget

**[00:27:24.440] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000439)  
of the Judiciary

**[00:27:25.380] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000440)  
for Fiscal Year 2027.

**[00:27:27.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000441)  
Amounting to

**[00:27:30.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000442)  
86.27 billion

**[00:27:35.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000443)  
inclusive of automatic appropriations

**[00:27:39.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000444)  
representing this budget

**[00:27:42.440] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000445)  
represents a 22.18% increase

**[00:27:49.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000446)  
from its Fiscal Year 2026 allocation.

**[00:27:55.180] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000447)  
Significantly,

**[00:27:55.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000448)  
significantly,

**[00:27:57.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000449)  
the Supreme Court's original budget proposal

**[00:28:00.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000450)  
has been incorporated

**[00:28:01.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000451)  
in the bill pursuant

**[00:28:03.960] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000452)  
to the principle

**[00:28:04.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000453)  
of judicial independence

**[00:28:08.180] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000454)  
as stated

**[00:28:09.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000455)  
in Republic Act

**[00:28:11.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000456)  
number 12233

**[00:28:14.240] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000457)  
or the Judiciary

**[00:28:16.040] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000458)  
Fiscal Autonomy Act.

**[00:28:20.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000459)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:28:21.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000460)  
this demonstrates

**[00:28:22.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000461)  
the importance

**[00:28:23.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000462)  
of providing

**[00:28:24.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000463)  
the judiciary

**[00:28:25.920] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000464)  
and the judicial

**[00:28:27.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000465)  
with the resources

**[00:28:28.860] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000466)  
necessary

**[00:28:30.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000467)  
to independently perform

**[00:28:32.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000468)  
its constitutional duty

**[00:28:35.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000469)  
and mandate

**[00:28:36.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000470)  
and respond

**[00:28:37.660] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000471)  
to the growing demands

**[00:28:39.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000472)  
on our justice system.

**[00:28:42.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000473)  
As the third

**[00:28:43.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000474)  
co-equal

**[00:28:44.960] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000475)  
and independent branch

**[00:28:46.560] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000476)  
of our government,

**[00:28:48.140] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000477)  
the judiciary serves

**[00:28:49.860] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000478)  
as the fundamental pillar

**[00:28:52.220] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000479)  
of justice,

**[00:28:54.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000480)  
the guardian

**[00:28:55.480] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000481)  
of our Constitution,

**[00:28:57.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000482)  
and also

**[00:29:00.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000483)  
the ultimate refuge

**[00:29:03.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000484)  
of our people

**[00:29:04.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000485)  
in the protection

**[00:29:06.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000486)  
of their basic rights.

**[00:29:09.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000487)  
By supporting this budget,

**[00:29:11.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000488)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:29:13.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000489)  
we empower our judiciary

**[00:29:15.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000490)  
to operate with greater efficiency,

**[00:29:19.340] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000491)  
transparency, and integrity

**[00:29:22.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000492)  
as we work together toward

**[00:29:25.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000493)  
a more equitable,

**[00:29:27.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000494)  
and efficient justice system

**[00:29:29.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000495)  
for the Filipino nation.

**[00:29:32.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000496)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:29:35.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000497)  
in view of the foregoing,

**[00:29:37.380] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000498)  
I respectfully present

**[00:29:39.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000499)  
the proposed fiscal year 2027

**[00:29:43.020] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000500)  
budget of the judiciary

**[00:29:45.100] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000501)  
for the consideration

**[00:29:46.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000502)  
of this honorable chamber.

**[00:29:49.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000503)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:29:51.040] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000504)  
This representation is now ready

**[00:29:53.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000505)  
to answer any and all questions

**[00:29:56.100] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000506)  
from our colleagues.

**[00:29:57.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000507)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:29:58.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000508)  
Thank you very much.

**[00:30:00.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000509)  
from the gentleman

**[00:30:01.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000510)  
from Cagayan de Oro.

**[00:30:03.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000511)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:30:05.960] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000512)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to

**[00:30:07.800] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000513)  
recognize Representative

**[00:30:09.820] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000514)  
Sergio Dagooc of APEC

**[00:30:11.720] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000515)  
Partylist to interpellate

**[00:30:13.680] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000516)  
the sponsor in the proposed budget.

**[00:30:15.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000517)  
The gentleman from APEC Partylist

**[00:30:18.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000518)  
Honorable Sergio Dagooc

**[00:30:19.860] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000519)  
is recognized. Sir,

**[00:30:21.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000520)  
you have the floor.

**[00:30:24.100] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000521)  
Thank you, Mindanaoan

**[00:30:25.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000522)  
Presiding Officer.

**[00:30:27.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000523)  
Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[00:30:30.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000524)  
Good morning

**[00:30:31.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000525)  
Judiciary family and

**[00:30:33.880] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000526)  
to the sponsor from the

**[00:30:35.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000527)  
City of Golden Friendship.

**[00:30:38.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000528)  
First of all,

**[00:30:40.240] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000529)  
Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[00:30:42.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000530)  
I would like to

**[00:30:43.380] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000531)  
manifest my

**[00:30:46.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000532)  
appreciation to the

**[00:30:47.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000533)  
Court Administrator

**[00:30:49.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000534)  
for solving

**[00:30:50.880] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000535)  
the long-time problem

**[00:30:53.780] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000536)  
of the electric

**[00:30:55.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000537)  
cooperatives in the payment of electric

**[00:30:57.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000538)  
bills of the different

**[00:30:59.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000539)  
RTCs and now

**[00:31:03.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000540)  
it has been totally resolved because

**[00:31:05.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000541)  
of the creation of a special unit

**[00:31:07.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000542)  
just to promptly

**[00:31:08.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000543)  
act on

**[00:31:12.620] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000544)  
electric bills of electric cooperatives

**[00:31:14.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000545)  
in the different provinces. Thank you,

**[00:31:16.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000546)  
Court Administrator.

**[00:31:19.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000547)  
With that, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:31:21.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000548)  
considering that

**[00:31:23.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000549)  
there is no single member

**[00:31:25.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000550)  
from the minority who

**[00:31:27.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000551)  
wish to interpellate,

**[00:31:29.040] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000552)  
the sponsor from the City of Golden

**[00:31:31.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000553)  
Principle, I move

**[00:31:33.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000554)  
to terminate the

**[00:31:35.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000555)  
period of interpellation and debate

**[00:31:37.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000556)  
on the budget of the

**[00:31:39.060] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000557)  
Judiciary for the fiscal

**[00:31:41.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-000558)  
year 2027.

**[00:31:43.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000559)  
What does the House say?

**[00:31:46.420] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000560)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:31:47.780] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000561)  
on the part of the

**[00:31:49.300] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000562)  
majority, we join the

**[00:31:51.020] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000563)  
minority in the motion to terminate

**[00:31:53.260] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000564)  
the interpellations on the

**[00:31:55.060] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000565)  
proposed budget of the Judiciary.

**[00:31:57.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000566)  
There is a joint

**[00:31:59.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000567)  
motion to terminate the

**[00:32:00.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000568)  
interpellation on the proposed

**[00:32:02.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000569)  
budget of the Judiciary.

**[00:32:05.360] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000570)  
Is there any objection?

**[00:32:07.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000571)  
The Chair hears none.

**[00:32:08.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000572)  
The interpellation on the proposed budget

**[00:32:10.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000573)  
of the Judiciary is

**[00:32:12.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000574)  
hereby terminated.

**[00:32:15.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000575)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:32:16.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000576)  
We thank the Honorable Speaker

**[00:32:18.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000577)  
Bojie Dy, who is here with us.

**[00:32:21.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000578)  
Thank you very much.

**[00:32:22.800] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000579)  
Our Majority Leader, Sandro

**[00:32:24.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000580)  
Marcos, we thank you

**[00:32:26.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000581)  
and our distinguished colleagues.

**[00:32:29.040] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000582)  
Thank you for another

**[00:32:30.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000583)  
very fast

**[00:32:31.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000584)  
approval of a budget of a

**[00:32:34.860] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000585)  
very important agency.

**[00:32:36.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000586)  
Thank you, our distinguished colleagues.

**[00:32:39.220] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000587)  
Congratulations to our

**[00:32:40.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000588)  
Supreme Court, Court of Appeals,

**[00:32:43.120] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000589)  
Sandigan Bayan, and Court of Tax

**[00:32:44.800] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000590)  
Appeals Justices. Thank you

**[00:32:47.180] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-000591)  
and good afternoon.

**[00:32:49.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000592)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:32:50.100] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-000593)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend session for a few minutes.

**[00:32:52.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000594)  
Session suspended.

**[00:37:54.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000618)  
Session resumed. Majority Leader.

**[00:37:57.960] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000619)  
Mr. Speaker, I now move to consider the proposed budget of the Department of Finance.

**[00:38:04.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000620)  
There is a motion to consider the budget from the Department of Finance.

**[00:38:09.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000621)  
Is there any objection?

**[00:38:10.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000622)  
The Chair hears none. Motion is carried.

**[00:38:12.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000623)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:38:14.520] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000624)  
Mr. Speaker, may we acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Department of Finance, namely

**[00:38:20.960] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000625)  
Secretary Frederick Go,

**[00:38:24.640] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000626)  
Undersecretary Carlo Fermin S. Adriano,

**[00:38:29.040] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000627)  
Undersecretary Rolando T. Ligon, Jr.,

**[00:38:31.940] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000628)  
Undersecretary Catherine L. Fong,

**[00:38:35.140] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000629)  
Undersecretary Maria Angela E. Ignacio,

**[00:38:38.940] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000630)  
Undersecretary Joven Z. Balbosa,

**[00:38:42.260] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000631)  
Undersecretary Crystal Lynn T. Uy,

**[00:38:45.420] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000632)  
OIC Undersecretary Ni?o Raymond B. Alvina,

**[00:38:49.840] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000633)  
BIR Commissioner Charlito Martin R. Mendoza,

**[00:38:54.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000634)  
BOC Commissioner Ariel F. Nepomuceno,

**[00:38:58.300] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000635)  
Treasurer

**[00:38:59.020] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000636)  
of the Philippines Sharon P. Almanza,

**[00:39:02.740] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000637)  
BLGF Assistant Secretary Ryan Martin C. Teh,

**[00:39:08.600] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000638)  
Insurance Commission Officer in Charge Ermar U. Benitez,

**[00:39:13.100] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000639)  
NTRC Executive Director Mark Lester L. Aure,

**[00:39:17.820] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000640)  
PMO Chief Privatization Officer Michael Peter A. Alejandro,

**[00:39:23.640] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000641)  
CBAA Chairperson Robert H. Tobia,

**[00:39:27.180] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000642)  
PTA President,

**[00:39:29.020] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000643)  
Gil S. Beltran,

**[00:39:31.100] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000644)  
SEC Chairman Francis Ed. Lim,

**[00:39:34.920] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000645)  
Phil Guarantee President and Chief Executive Officer Alberto E. Pascual,

**[00:39:40.140] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000646)  
LBP President and Chief Executive Officer Maria Lynette V. Ortiz,

**[00:39:45.960] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000647)  
DBP President and Chief Executive Officer Michael O. De Jesus,

**[00:39:51.060] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000648)  
MIC President and Chief Executive Officer Rafael Jose D. Consing, Jr.,

**[00:39:57.020] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000649)  
SSS President

**[00:39:59.020] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000650)  
and Chief Executive Officer Robert Joseph M. De Claro,

**[00:40:03.800] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000651)  
and GSIS President and General Manager Jose Arnulfo A. Veloso.

**[00:40:09.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000652)  
To the Heads and Officers of the Department of Finance,

**[00:40:14.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000653)  
led by Secretary Frederick Go,

**[00:40:18.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000654)  
in behalf of Speaker Bojie Dy,

**[00:40:20.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000655)  
and Majority Leader Sandro Marcos,

**[00:40:22.820] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000656)  
welcome to the House of Representatives.

**[00:40:26.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000657)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:40:27.700] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000658)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:40:28.400] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000659)  
I move to recognize Representative Zia Alonto Adiong, Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations,

**[00:40:38.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000660)  
and Bella Vanessa Suansing, Co-Sponsor of the Committee on Appropriations,

**[00:40:49.100] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000661)  
to answer questions on the proposed budget of the Department of Finance.

**[00:40:52.960] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000662)  
The gentlelady from the 2nd District of Sultan Kudarat, Vice Chair, Bella Vanessa Suansing,

**[00:40:59.300] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000663)  
and our representative from Lanao del Sur 1st District, His Majesty, Vice Chair, Zia Alonto Adiong.

**[00:41:07.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000664)  
Sir, you have the floor for your sponsorship speech.

**[00:41:12.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000665)  
Dagang salamat, Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[00:41:16.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000666)  
Bismillahirrahmanirrahim. Assalamualaikum.

**[00:41:18.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000667)  
Warahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Magandang hapon po sa ating lahat.

**[00:41:21.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000668)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:41:22.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000669)  
esteemed colleagues, and distinguished members of this August Chamber.

**[00:41:26.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000670)  
It is my privilege to present to this August Chamber the proposed 2027 budget of the Department of Finance and its attached agencies.

**[00:41:34.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000671)  
Here with us, Mr. Speaker, is the Secretary, the Undersecretary, and all the heads of the attached agencies of the Department of Finance,

**[00:41:42.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000672)  
headed, of course, by Secretary Frederick Go.

**[00:41:45.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000673)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, the Department of Finance stands as the central engine of our country's economic progress.

**[00:41:51.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000674)  
Far

**[00:41:52.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000675)  
beyond the mere collection agency, it is tasked with the profound responsibility to architect our nation's fiscal policies,

**[00:42:00.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000676)  
empower our local governments toward fiscal independence, and navigate our public sector debt.

**[00:42:06.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000677)  
As emphasized in the President's Budget Message for Fiscal Year 2027,

**[00:42:11.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000678)  
the government's fiscal strategy remains anchored on strengthening revenue generation

**[00:42:15.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000679)  
while ensuring that public expenditures continue to support inclusive and sustainable economic growth.

**[00:42:22.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000680)  
The government is working hard to meet the projected national revenue of 5.21 trillion pesos,

**[00:42:29.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000681)  
equivalent to 15.7% of GDP in 2027.

**[00:42:34.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000682)  
Mr. Speaker, this aggressive revenue mobilization is essential to our fiscal consolidation strategy,

**[00:42:41.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000683)  
which seeks to deliberately reduce our national deficit from 5.4% of GDP in 2026 to 5.1% in 2027.

**[00:42:52.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000684)  
and steadily down to 3.49% by 2030.

**[00:42:57.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000685)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, the Department of Finance's fiscal policy is deeply anchored

**[00:43:02.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000686)  
in the Philippine Development Plan 2023-2028 and the Medium-Term Fiscal Framework,

**[00:43:09.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000687)  
which seeks to create better jobs, increase people's income, and reduce the poverty rate to a single digit by 2028.

**[00:43:18.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000688)  
We are already seeing the results of this strategic plan,

**[00:43:22.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000689)  
through the Department's concrete accomplishments,

**[00:43:25.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000690)  
particularly, Mr. Speaker, its continued robust revenue collection,

**[00:43:30.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000691)  
which grew at an average of 10.54% annually from 2022 to 2025.

**[00:43:37.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000692)  
In order to facilitate this, the proposed 2027 fiscal year total expenditure program for the Department of Finance

**[00:43:44.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000693)  
is 32.03 billion pesos, consisting of 28.64 billion pesos in new appropriations,

**[00:43:52.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000694)  
and 3.40 billion pesos in automatic appropriations.

**[00:43:58.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000695)  
This budget represents a 3.5% reduction from the current year,

**[00:44:04.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000696)  
demonstrating that the Department is leading by example in fiscal discipline.

**[00:44:10.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000697)  
Mr. Speaker, we must recognize that the proposed DOF budget accounts for only about 0.44%

**[00:44:18.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000698)  
of the proposed

**[00:44:20.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000700)  
[unclear] 7.2

**[00:44:22.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000701)  
trillion peso national budget.

**[00:44:25.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000702)  
Nearly 4 out of every 5 pesos in this proposal go to the Bureau of Internal Revenue and the Bureau of Customs.

**[00:44:34.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000703)  
Against their combined projected collections of approximately 4.8 trillion pesos in 2027,

**[00:44:41.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000704)  
their full-year allocations for tax and customs administration are equivalent to roughly 2 days

**[00:44:48.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000705)  
of their projected collections averaged over the year.

**[00:44:51.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000706)  
The budget is strategically allocated with 77.6% of new appropriations amounting to 22.22

**[00:44:59.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000707)  
billion pesos directed

**[00:45:01.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000708)  
to frontline operations.

**[00:45:04.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000709)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, we are

**[00:45:06.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000710)  
inviting, we are investing

**[00:45:08.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000711)  
precisely where the return

**[00:45:10.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000712)  
for the Filipino people are the highest

**[00:45:12.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000713)  
and these are the following.

**[00:45:14.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000714)  
19.40 billion

**[00:45:16.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000715)  
pesos is allocated to

**[00:45:18.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000716)  
the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

**[00:45:20.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000717)  
Its revenue administration program

**[00:45:22.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000718)  
will receive 14.79

**[00:45:24.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000719)  
billion pesos

**[00:45:25.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000720)  
to strengthen tax

**[00:45:28.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000721)  
administration and compliance

**[00:45:29.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000722)  
enforcement. This will empower

**[00:45:32.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000723)  
the BIR to sustain its

**[00:45:34.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000724)  
reliable audit efforts

**[00:45:35.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000725)  
and aggressively pursue tax

**[00:45:38.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000726)  
evaders, building upon its

**[00:45:40.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000727)  
consistent filing of hundreds of run

**[00:45:42.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000728)  
after tax evaders

**[00:45:43.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000729)  
cases annually.

**[00:45:47.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000730)  
Second,

**[00:45:48.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000731)  
5.90 billion pesos

**[00:45:49.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000732)  
is allocated to the Bureau of Customs

**[00:45:51.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000733)  
or BOC, supporting the

**[00:45:54.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000734)  
Customs Revenue Enhancement Program

**[00:45:55.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000735)  
and Customs Border

**[00:45:57.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000736)  
Protection. The BOC

**[00:45:59.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000737)  
has proven the value of its investment,

**[00:46:02.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000738)  
having conducted over

**[00:46:03.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000739)  
1,204 seizure

**[00:46:05.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000740)  
operations in 2025

**[00:46:07.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000741)  
that intercepted illicit

**[00:46:09.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000742)  
and smuggled goods valued

**[00:46:11.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000743)  
at over 61.71

**[00:46:14.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000744)  
billion pesos.

**[00:46:16.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000745)  
Next is the

**[00:46:17.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000746)  
4.1 billion pesos

**[00:46:19.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000747)  
designated for the Bureau

**[00:46:21.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000748)  
of Treasury. This includes,

**[00:46:23.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000749)  
Mr. Speaker, an allocation of

**[00:46:25.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000750)  
69.8 million pesos

**[00:46:27.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000751)  
to develop the Treasury Single

**[00:46:29.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000752)  
Account, or TSA,

**[00:46:31.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000753)  
enabling the Bureau of

**[00:46:33.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000754)  
Treasury to regularly consolidate

**[00:46:35.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000755)  
revenues and optimize the inflows

**[00:46:37.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000756)  
and outflows of government funds.

**[00:46:40.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000757)  
And lastly, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:46:41.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000758)  
325.6

**[00:46:44.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000759)  
million pesos is

**[00:46:45.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000760)  
proposed for the Bureau of Local

**[00:46:47.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000761)  
Government Finance, or BLGF

**[00:46:49.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000762)  
administration.

**[00:46:52.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000763)  
This will actually,

**[00:46:53.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000764)  
Mr. Speaker, funds

**[00:46:54.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000765)  
the

**[00:46:57.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000766)  
151 million support

**[00:46:58.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000767)  
to implement the Real Property

**[00:47:01.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000768)  
Valuation and Assessment Reform Act.

**[00:47:04.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000769)  
This historic reform

**[00:47:05.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000770)  
will modernize the country's

**[00:47:07.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000771)  
real property valuation system,

**[00:47:09.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000772)  
promote equitable taxation,

**[00:47:11.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000773)  
and fundamentally strengthen the revenue

**[00:47:13.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000774)  
generating capacity of our

**[00:47:15.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000775)  
local government units.

**[00:47:17.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000776)  
In the long run, Your Honors, Mr.

**[00:47:19.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000777)  
Speaker, the government is aggressively

**[00:47:21.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000778)  
advancing its digitalization

**[00:47:23.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000779)  
initiatives. This budget

**[00:47:25.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000780)  
invests heavily in technology,

**[00:47:27.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000781)  
allocating 3.8

**[00:47:29.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000782)  
billion across all agencies,

**[00:47:31.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000783)  
including strengthening BIR's

**[00:47:33.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000784)  
digital systems for revenue collection

**[00:47:35.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000785)  
and modernizing BOC's

**[00:47:37.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000786)  
anti-smuggling frameworks

**[00:47:39.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000787)  
and digital risk management.

**[00:47:41.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000788)  
We also commend the DOF

**[00:47:43.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000789)  
for its strong budget utilization

**[00:47:45.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000790)  
trajectory. The Department

**[00:47:47.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000791)  
increased its obligation to appropriations

**[00:47:49.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000792)  
ratio from 92.7%

**[00:47:52.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000793)  
in 2023

**[00:47:53.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000794)  
to 94.8%

**[00:47:56.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000795)  
in 2025.

**[00:47:57.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000796)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors,

**[00:47:59.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000797)  
our fiscal fundamentals prove

**[00:48:01.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000798)  
these investments yield

**[00:48:03.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000799)  
outstanding results.

**[00:48:05.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000800)  
The BIR surpassed

**[00:48:07.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000801)  
3 trillion pesos

**[00:48:09.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000802)  
in tax collections for the first

**[00:48:11.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000803)  
time. General

**[00:48:13.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000804)  
government debt settled at

**[00:48:15.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000805)  
56.8% of GDP,

**[00:48:18.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000806)  
well below the 70%

**[00:48:20.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000807)  
international benchmark

**[00:48:21.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000808)  
for debt sustainability.

**[00:48:23.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000809)  
We maintain a highly prudent

**[00:48:25.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000810)  
debt mix where

**[00:48:27.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000811)  
67% of our outstanding debt

**[00:48:29.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000812)  
is domestic, which reduces

**[00:48:31.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000813)  
our exposure to foreign exchange

**[00:48:33.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000814)  
risks. Furthermore,

**[00:48:35.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000815)  
Mr. Speaker, 90% of our debt

**[00:48:37.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000816)  
carries fixed interest rates,

**[00:48:39.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000817)  
which shields us

**[00:48:41.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000818)  
from sudden increases or

**[00:48:43.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000819)  
fluctuations in global interest

**[00:48:45.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000820)  
rates. This strategic

**[00:48:47.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000821)  
discipline has earned us two

**[00:48:49.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000822)  
A- ratings from

**[00:48:51.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000823)  
Japanese credit rating agencies,

**[00:48:54.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000824)  
while preserving our investment

**[00:48:55.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000825)  
grade sovereign credit ratings,

**[00:48:57.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000826)  
such as the BBB Plus

**[00:48:59.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000827)  
from S&P Global

**[00:49:01.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000828)  
and Baa2 from

**[00:49:03.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000829)  
Moody's.

**[00:49:04.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000830)  
The Moody's, Mr. Speaker, this proves

**[00:49:07.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000831)  
we are a low-risk, reliable

**[00:49:09.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000832)  
borrower, ensuring

**[00:49:11.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000833)  
that our borrowing costs remain low

**[00:49:13.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000834)  
and market confidence remains high.

**[00:49:16.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000835)  
It has also paved the way

**[00:49:17.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000836)  
for the historic debut

**[00:49:19.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000837)  
of our peso-dominated government

**[00:49:21.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000838)  
bonds in the J.P. Morgan's

**[00:49:23.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000839)  
Government Bond Index Emerging

**[00:49:25.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000840)  
Markets in January of 2027.

**[00:49:27.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000841)  
While Congress holds

**[00:49:29.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000842)  
the constitutional power of the purse,

**[00:49:31.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000843)  
Mr. Speaker, the Department of Finance

**[00:49:33.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000844)  
executes the vital task

**[00:49:35.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000845)  
of revenue mobilization and

**[00:49:37.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000846)  
fiscal management. We are

**[00:49:39.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000847)  
co-equal partners in ensuring

**[00:49:41.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000848)  
that every appropriated peso

**[00:49:43.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000849)  
generates the highest value

**[00:49:45.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000850)  
for the Filipino people.

**[00:49:47.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000851)  
Our ability to fund public

**[00:49:49.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000852)  
infrastructure, support social

**[00:49:51.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000853)  
safety nets, and achieve

**[00:49:53.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000854)  
our national economic development goals

**[00:49:55.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000855)  
relies, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:49:57.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000856)  
directly on the DOF's

**[00:49:59.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000857)  
operational capacity to

**[00:50:01.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000858)  
expand our fiscal space.

**[00:50:03.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000859)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors,

**[00:50:05.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000860)  
a well-functioning Department of Finance

**[00:50:07.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000861)  
guarantees the fiscal space

**[00:50:09.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000862)  
required for our nation's

**[00:50:11.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000863)  
progress. And I respectfully

**[00:50:13.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000864)  
urge this August Chamber to approve

**[00:50:15.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000865)  
the Fiscal Year 2027

**[00:50:17.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000866)  
proposed budget of the Department of

**[00:50:19.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000867)  
Finance and its attached agencies.

**[00:50:21.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000868)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:50:24.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000869)  
Maayong hapon. Salamualaikum

**[00:50:25.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000870)  
wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

**[00:50:27.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000871)  
We are now ready to accept questions

**[00:50:29.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000872)  
from the floor.

**[00:50:30.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000873)  
Dagang salamat, Majesty Zia Adiong.

**[00:50:33.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000874)  
Majority Leader.

**[00:50:34.580] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000875)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to recognize

**[00:50:36.540] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000876)  
Representative Iris Marie

**[00:50:38.840] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000877)  
de Mesa Montes

**[00:50:39.980] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000878)  
of 4K Party List to

**[00:50:42.800] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000879)  
interpellate the sponsor on the proposed

**[00:50:45.000] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-000880)  
budget of the Department of Finance.

**[00:50:47.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000881)  
The gentle lady from 4K Party List,

**[00:50:49.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000882)  
Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes,

**[00:50:51.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-000883)  
is recognized. Ma'am, please proceed.

**[00:50:53.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000884)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:50:55.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000885)  
distinguished sponsor, and to the

**[00:50:57.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000886)  
DOF, magandang hapon po.

**[00:51:01.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000887)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor,

**[00:51:03.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000888)  
ilang paglilinaw lamang po

**[00:51:05.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000889)  
sa mga nabanggit ninyo po

**[00:51:07.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000890)  
sa inyong sponsorship speech.

**[00:51:09.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000891)  
Umpisahan ko muna po siguro

**[00:51:11.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000892)  
tungkol sa debt burden.

**[00:51:14.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000893)  
Sa proposed

**[00:51:14.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000894)  
7.2 trillion

**[00:51:17.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000895)  
2027 budget po natin,

**[00:51:19.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000896)  
ano po ang projected

**[00:51:21.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000897)  
na debt to GDP ratio

**[00:51:23.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000898)  
natin under baseline

**[00:51:25.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000899)  
scenario?

**[00:51:27.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000900)  
Paano nyo po

**[00:51:28.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000901)  
i-describe ang level na ito?

**[00:51:38.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000902)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for that question.

**[00:51:41.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000903)  
Ang ating debt to GDP ratio

**[00:51:43.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000904)  
ay nasa 58.6%

**[00:51:46.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000905)  
itong taon na ito.

**[00:51:48.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000906)  
With the proposed

**[00:51:49.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000907)  
policy direction,

**[00:51:51.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000908)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:51:53.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000909)  
inaasahan po natin na ito'y bababa

**[00:51:54.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000910)  
over the years.

**[00:51:56.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000911)  
As well,

**[00:51:57.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000912)  
presented in our earlier

**[00:51:58.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000913)  
opening statements, ito'y bababa hanggang

**[00:52:01.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000914)  
3% ang ating debt to GDP ratio,

**[00:52:05.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000915)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[00:52:05.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000916)  
Thank you.

**[00:52:06.430] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000916-split-2)  
Yes.

**[00:52:07.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000916-split-3)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:52:09.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000917)  
distinguished sponsor.

**[00:52:11.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000918)  
Iba po kasi yung mga nakuha kong figures

**[00:52:13.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000919)  
at the current rate, it's about

**[00:52:15.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000920)  
already 66%.

**[00:52:18.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000921)  
So, hindi po yan

**[00:52:19.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000922)  
ang official figure.

**[00:52:21.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000923)  
So, for 2027,

**[00:52:23.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000924)  
nagpo-project pa po tayo.

**[00:52:24.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000925)  
Ang projection po natin,

**[00:52:26.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000926)  
mas mababa.

**[00:52:27.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000927)  
O mas mataas doon.

**[00:52:28.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000928)  
Yung sinasabi po ninyong 6.something percent,

**[00:52:32.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000929)  
that's actually, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:52:34.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000930)  
the national

**[00:52:34.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000931)  
government debt po.

**[00:52:37.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000932)  
Iba po yung tinatanong nyo po kanina,

**[00:52:39.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000933)  
yung debt to GDP ratio,

**[00:52:41.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000934)  
which is around 58.6%

**[00:52:44.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000935)  
in 2020.

**[00:52:45.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000936)  
Under worst case assumptions

**[00:52:47.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000937)  
naman po, given the 2027

**[00:52:49.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000938)  
budget, ano naman po kaya

**[00:52:51.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000939)  
ang magiging level nito?

**[00:52:53.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-000940)  
At paano din po natin ito madidescribe?

**[00:53:09.250] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000941)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors,

**[00:53:10.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000942)  
ito pong mga

**[00:53:11.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000943)  
variables na ito

**[00:53:12.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000944)  
na pinag-assess po

**[00:53:13.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000945)  
ng ating Department of Finance

**[00:53:15.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000946)  
is actually the data that's

**[00:53:17.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000947)  
coming from DEP, DEP, coming from

**[00:53:19.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000948)  
NEDA and from DBM, Mrs. Speaker,

**[00:53:21.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000949)  
Your Honor. So, ang projected po talaga natin

**[00:53:23.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000950)  
as far as the Department of Finance

**[00:53:25.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000951)  
is concerned, vis-a-vis the collection

**[00:53:27.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000952)  
of revenue versus that of the

**[00:53:29.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000953)  
expenditure, I already

**[00:53:31.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000954)  
in the one, in the

**[00:53:33.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000955)  
ratio that I have already identified

**[00:53:35.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000956)  
to you, Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, which is

**[00:53:37.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000957)  
58.6%.

**[00:53:39.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000958)  
So, we expect, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:53:41.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000959)  
we expect the trend downwards

**[00:53:43.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000960)  
based on the medium-term

**[00:53:45.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000961)  
fiscal plan as well as

**[00:53:47.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000962)  
basically, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:53:54.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000963)  
the consolidation, the

**[00:53:55.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000964)  
revenue

**[00:53:56.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000965)  
based on our

**[00:54:01.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000966)  
projected, Mr. Speaker, because

**[00:54:03.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000967)  
magkaiba po talaga yung sa national government

**[00:54:05.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000968)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, I think, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:54:11.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000969)  
what we have tried to classify here

**[00:54:13.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000970)  
is the national government debt

**[00:54:15.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000971)  
as versus the debt-to-GDP ratio.

**[00:54:18.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000972)  
What I have presented to you earlier,

**[00:54:19.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000973)  
Mr. Speaker, is the ratio

**[00:54:21.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000974)  
of debt-to-GDP in

**[00:54:23.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000975)  
2026 was about 58,

**[00:54:25.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000976)  
5.48%, no?

**[00:54:28.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000977)  
But it also remains

**[00:54:29.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000978)  
to be on track under the medium-term

**[00:54:31.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000979)  
fiscal framework

**[00:54:33.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000980)  
because of the

**[00:54:35.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000981)  
thing that the DOF is

**[00:54:37.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000982)  
trying to come up with because we

**[00:54:39.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000983)  
also need to have the fiscal

**[00:54:41.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000984)  
consolidation. It needs to be in revenue collection

**[00:54:43.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000985)  
versus of the expenditure of our national

**[00:54:45.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000986)  
government, fiscal management,

**[00:54:48.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000987)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors,

**[00:54:49.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000988)  
which is entirely

**[00:54:50.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000989)  
up to

**[00:54:54.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000990)  
you know,

**[00:54:55.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000991)  
in compliance with the medium-term fiscal

**[00:54:57.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000992)  
framework plan. So basically

**[00:54:59.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000993)  
what we are projecting here

**[00:55:00.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000994)  
is that all the data that's coming

**[00:55:03.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000995)  
in is also a consolidation

**[00:55:05.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000996)  
of data coming from the DEP-DEV,

**[00:55:07.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000997)  
EBM, and the NEDA.

**[00:55:10.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000998)  
And the BSP,

**[00:55:11.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-000999)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[00:55:13.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001000)  
So, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[00:55:15.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001001)  
at the current rate, we could say,

**[00:55:17.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001002)  
how do we describe it? We could say

**[00:55:18.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001003)  
that it is sustainable, is it

**[00:55:21.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001004)  
manageable based on all the data

**[00:55:23.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001005)  
and all the strategies that the

**[00:55:25.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001006)  
DOF is doing, currently

**[00:55:27.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001007)  
doing, or will

**[00:55:28.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001008)  
strategies that it will be implementing?

**[00:55:31.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001009)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, because actually

**[00:55:33.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001010)  
the international

**[00:55:35.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001011)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[00:55:37.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001012)  
because our level, our debt level remains

**[00:55:39.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001013)  
manageable, no, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:55:41.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001014)  
because in the year 2025,

**[00:55:43.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001015)  
the national government debt

**[00:55:45.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001016)  
as you were asking

**[00:55:47.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001017)  
earlier, Mr. Speaker, is at

**[00:55:49.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001018)  
63.2%, no,

**[00:55:51.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001019)  
of the GDP, while

**[00:55:53.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001020)  
the general government debt,

**[00:55:55.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001021)  
finished at 56.8% of

**[00:55:57.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001022)  
GDP. Ito po'y well below

**[00:56:00.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001023)  
doon sa 70%

**[00:56:03.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001024)  
na international benchmark

**[00:56:05.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001025)  
set by the World Bank,

**[00:56:07.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001026)  
no, for their sustainability.

**[00:56:09.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001027)  
So, we can prudently say,

**[00:56:11.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001028)  
Mr. Speaker, that it's still manageable because

**[00:56:13.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001029)  
it is way, way below

**[00:56:14.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001030)  
the 70%

**[00:56:16.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001031)  
international benchmark set by the

**[00:56:19.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001032)  
World Bank. And also, Mr. Speaker, Your Honors,

**[00:56:22.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001033)  
yung ating

**[00:56:22.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001034)  
pang-debt, no,

**[00:56:25.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001035)  
is mostly incurred from

**[00:56:27.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001036)  
domestic, na, ano,

**[00:56:29.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001037)  
domestic borrowings,

**[00:56:31.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001038)  
no, as opposed to

**[00:56:33.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001039)  
the international borrowings, kasi

**[00:56:35.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001040)  
international borrowings is also susceptible

**[00:56:37.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001041)  
to international shock, currency rates,

**[00:56:39.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001042)  
fluctuations. So, it's still

**[00:56:41.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001043)  
manageable, Mr. Speaker, because it's way, way

**[00:56:43.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001044)  
below the 70% international

**[00:56:45.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001045)  
monetary benchmark.

**[00:56:46.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001046)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor. Considering

**[00:56:49.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001047)  
that it is manageable, maari po

**[00:56:51.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001048)  
bang malaman, Mr.

**[00:56:52.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001049)  
Sponsor, concretely, ano ang ginagawa

**[00:56:55.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001050)  
natin para to ensure na maging

**[00:56:57.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001051)  
sustainable nga ito? Madali naman po

**[00:56:59.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001052)  
kasing sabihin, diba, na sustainable,

**[00:57:01.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001053)  
pero ano po ang mga ginagawa

**[00:57:03.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001054)  
natin given that interest

**[00:57:05.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001055)  
payments rise year

**[00:57:07.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001056)  
after year? So, it stresses

**[00:57:09.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001057)  
out yung ating

**[00:57:11.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001058)  
posisyon, so...

**[00:57:14.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001059)  
Yes,

**[00:57:15.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001060)  
part of making it sustainable,

**[00:57:17.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001061)  
the debt levels, Mr. Speaker, is

**[00:57:19.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001062)  
number one, na-mention ko na nga po,

**[00:57:21.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001063)  
the major source of our borrowing,

**[00:57:22.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001064)  
is domestic, no, nasa

**[00:57:24.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001065)  
67.3%, no, and

**[00:57:27.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001066)  
also, 90%

**[00:57:29.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001067)  
of this is fixed, yung

**[00:57:31.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001068)  
debt po, fixed interest rates, Mr. Speaker.

**[00:57:33.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001069)  
So, it is more manageable, and already

**[00:57:35.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001070)  
the government, through the DOF,

**[00:57:37.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001071)  
can already projected what would

**[00:57:39.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001072)  
be the interests that we will

**[00:57:41.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001073)  
be paying, that we will pay from

**[00:57:43.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001074)  
this domestic

**[00:57:45.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001075)  
loan

**[00:57:46.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001076)  
sources, no?

**[00:57:49.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001077)  
And the

**[00:57:50.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001078)  
payment scheme, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:57:52.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001079)  
is a long-term

**[00:57:53.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001080)  
payment structure

**[00:57:56.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001081)  
ang pagbabayad po. So,

**[00:57:58.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001082)  
in terms of management,

**[00:58:01.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001083)  
in terms of having it sustainable,

**[00:58:03.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001084)  
yung ating pagbabayad po,

**[00:58:05.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001085)  
not necessarily

**[00:58:07.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001086)  
incurring a drastic

**[00:58:08.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001087)  
effect, or effect negatively

**[00:58:10.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001088)  
sa ating katayuan,

**[00:58:13.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001089)  
we can

**[00:58:14.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001090)  
safely project

**[00:58:16.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001091)  
that this is sustainable

**[00:58:18.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001092)  
because of the fact that only

**[00:58:20.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001093)  
we rely on

**[00:58:22.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001094)  
domestic borrowing.

**[00:58:24.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001095)  
Number two, it is also

**[00:58:25.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001096)  
that interest is fixed, so we already

**[00:58:28.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001097)  
projected the possible payment,

**[00:58:30.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001098)  
and the scheme of payment is long-term.

**[00:58:31.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001099)  
Hindi po yung pabilisan na pagbabayad,

**[00:58:34.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001100)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[00:58:35.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001101)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is in terms

**[00:58:38.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001102)  
of debt management strategy,

**[00:58:40.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001103)  
ano po. Paggating po kaya

**[00:58:42.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001104)  
sa fiscal consolidation,

**[00:58:44.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001105)  
ano po ang ginagawa ng DOF?

**[00:58:48.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001106)  
Mr. Speaker, again,

**[00:58:49.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001107)  
we already partially answered

**[00:58:52.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001108)  
the question, but let me also give

**[00:58:54.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001109)  
you the comprehensive

**[00:58:56.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001110)  
management

**[00:58:58.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001111)  
style and the answer in view

**[00:59:00.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001112)  
of the response that we will provide to the good

**[00:59:01.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001113)  
honorable interpellator. As far

**[00:59:04.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001114)  
as the fiscal consolidation,

**[00:59:06.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001115)  
remains firmly on track under

**[00:59:08.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001116)  
the medium-term fiscal framework,

**[00:59:10.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001117)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors. Again, the debt

**[00:59:12.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001118)  
to GDP ratio has consistently

**[00:59:13.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001119)  
dropped from 8.6, natandaan po natin

**[00:59:16.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001120)  
in 2021,

**[00:59:17.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001121)  
meron po tayong debt to GDP

**[00:59:19.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001122)  
from 8.6,

**[00:59:22.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001123)  
meron, bumaba po siya

**[00:59:24.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001124)  
in this current year, which is around

**[00:59:26.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001125)  
5.46 percent,

**[00:59:28.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001126)  
Mr. Speaker, and we are still projecting

**[00:59:30.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001127)  
it to be lower in the coming

**[00:59:31.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001128)  
years.

**[00:59:34.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001129)  
Ang ano po, ang very

**[00:59:36.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001130)  
we need

**[00:59:38.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001131)  
also to emphasize, Mr. Speaker,

**[00:59:40.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001132)  
that under this current

**[00:59:41.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001133)  
administration, meron pong strict

**[00:59:44.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001134)  
fiscal discipline, ang ini-enforce

**[00:59:46.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001135)  
po ng ating Department of Finance,

**[00:59:48.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001136)  
all across agencies, para po

**[00:59:50.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001137)  
ma-prioritize yung kanilang

**[00:59:51.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001138)  
multa,

**[00:59:52.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001139)  
yung high multiplier capital investments,

**[00:59:54.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001140)  
and that would, again, generate

**[00:59:56.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001141)  
longer-term economic returns.

**[00:59:58.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001142)  
So, again, this is

**[00:59:59.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001146)  
prudent fiscal management as to the revenue that we collected versus of that expenditures that the government will be spending.

**[01:00:07.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001147)  
So that's how the Department of Finance tried to keep track on how to sustain, you know,

**[01:00:15.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001148)  
how to sustain in keeping our projected track of lowering down our debt to GDP by the end of this year and over the years that would come.

**[01:00:26.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001149)  
Mr. Speaker, your honors.

**[01:00:27.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001150)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:00:28.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001151)  
Pagdating po sa deficit natin, maaari po bang tukuyin ninyo ang exact timeline and annual target para sa deficit reduction?

**[01:00:45.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001152)  
Mr. Speaker, your honors.

**[01:00:46.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001153)  
In 2026, we have, meron talagang ano, there's really that plan to pababain po natin yung debt to deficit.

**[01:00:57.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001154)  
To GDP, you know, which around this year is 5.4%.

**[01:01:05.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001155)  
We are projecting it to go lower.

**[01:01:08.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001156)  
In next year, it would be 5.1.

**[01:01:11.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001157)  
And again, over the years, starting from 2028, it will be 4.8.

**[01:01:19.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001158)  
And then the projected in 2029 will be 4.2, 3.5% by 2023 deficit.

**[01:01:27.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001159)  
To GDP ratio, Mr. Speaker, your honors.

**[01:01:30.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001160)  
So there's really that gradual decline that we are projecting based on the fiscal consolidation plan,

**[01:01:45.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001161)  
hoping that by 2030, we would have to reach the lower ratio of deficit to GDP, which is about 3.5%, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:01:58.130] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001162)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[01:01:59.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001163)  
So I suppose ito po ay mga projections and assumptions under good scenario.

**[01:02:06.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001164)  
These are projections, but they are also based on an actual, well, you also have to balance it out with the actual borrowings

**[01:02:15.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001165)  
and also as well as the expenditures and the possible revenue that we collect from both the taxes and also the non-tax revenue that we also collect.

**[01:02:23.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001166)  
Halimbawa po, sir, naibigay nyo na distinguished sponsor yung projection,

**[01:02:27.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001167)  
na pababa ng pababa, ano?

**[01:02:29.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001168)  
Paano po kaya kung mangyari uli yung nangyari nung makaraang buwan,

**[01:02:32.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001169)  
na may mga external shocks na apektohan tayo?

**[01:02:35.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001170)  
Will this be adversely affected?

**[01:02:37.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001171)  
Your projections will be adversely affected?

**[01:02:45.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001172)  
Yeah, again, this is not entirely a decision that the Department of Finance has to make.

**[01:02:50.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001173)  
It also involves other agencies like the DBCC,

**[01:02:55.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001174)  
as well as,

**[01:02:57.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001175)  
DEV, DEV, NEDA, BSP.

**[01:03:00.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001176)  
So it's really an interagency assessment.

**[01:03:05.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001177)  
So if there's a need to really readjust policies insofar as responding to unplanned and unpredicted shocks in the international market,

**[01:03:16.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001178)  
definitely the DOF will be one among those agencies that will come up with adjusted policy in order to measurably and adequately respond.

**[01:03:27.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001179)  
to whatever effects to our economy.

**[01:03:30.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001180)  
Should there be any uncertain or untowards incident that may happen in the coming days?

**[01:03:35.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001181)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. Sponsor.

**[01:03:37.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001182)  
Ito po, ito, siguradong hindi na ito sa DBCC,

**[01:03:41.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001183)  
kontrolado na po ito ng DOF on revenue mobilization.

**[01:03:45.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001184)  
Ano po kaya ang specific tax measures or administrative reforms na idideliver na what will we use to deliver

**[01:03:55.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001185)  
bulk ng mga ina-assume natin ito?

**[01:04:00.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001186)  
At paano natin titiyakin na hindi mabibigatan ang ordinaryong manggagawa?

**[01:04:05.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001187)  
Of course, aside from yung na-ipresenta na po na pagbenta ng assets,

**[01:04:10.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001188)  
may dalawa po yata ang plano, yung pagbenta ng baknotan kalayaan na geothermal and the atrium of Makati properties.

**[01:04:19.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001189)  
Aside from that, in terms of revenue collections, ano po ang plano ng DOF?

**[01:04:25.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001190)  
Thank you.

**[01:04:32.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001191)  
Mr. Speaker, there are several items here if the good lady would indulge me in identifying one.

**[01:04:41.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001192)  
This is actually a progressive tax reform that the Department of Finance would like to propose.

**[01:04:50.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001193)  
There's also the increase in personal income tax exemption

**[01:04:54.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001194)  
from 250,000 to 350,000 annually.

**[01:05:00.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001195)  
This will actually help our income, personal income taxpayers up to 17,500

**[01:05:10.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001196)  
with their annual savings, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:05:13.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001197)  
We do also have exemption for the micro and small enterprises or MSNBs.

**[01:05:19.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001198)  
We would also like to update.

**[01:05:25.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001199)  
On the, or the lifting.

**[01:05:44.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001200)  
So, Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, pardon me if I need to itemize, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:05:50.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001201)  
some of the tax reform packages that we have.

**[01:05:53.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001202)  
Without going through, what would be?

**[01:05:55.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001203)  
The direct beneficiary or benefits it will give to our tax payers.

**[01:06:00.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001204)  
I just want to enumerate to you these tax reform packages.

**[01:06:05.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001205)  
Number one is through the automobiles, e-cigarettes and novel tobacco,

**[01:06:10.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001206)  
plastics, sweetened beverages, distilled spirits, and vermouth,

**[01:06:13.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001207)  
which actually with a total revenue impact of 43.62 billion pesos, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:06:20.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001208)  
So, this would actually give benefit, direct benefit to our tax payers.

**[01:06:25.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001209)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:06:26.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001210)  
But that, would that be enough, Mr. Speaker, to, to cover yung malaki pong kakulangan natin sa revenues?

**[01:06:36.390] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001211)  
Mr. Speaker, the reason why there's a policy to reform our tax packages,

**[01:06:42.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001212)  
identifying all those items that I've mentioned, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:06:45.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001213)  
is that based on the trajectory and based on the data that the Department of Finance has,

**[01:06:51.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001214)  
we are still on good track and on good financial condition, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:06:55.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001215)  
Even, even if we pursue this reform tax packages, Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:07:02.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001216)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

**[01:07:05.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001217)  
Naiintindihan po natin ang kalagayan ng DOF, kalagayan ng bansa natin ngayon.

**[01:07:10.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001218)  
Pero hindi nyo rin po kasi maiaalis ang pangamba sa lahat tungkol dito sa tumataas at lumalalang utang ng bansa.

**[01:07:19.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001219)  
Pwede po ba tayo na ma-assure ng DOF sa ngayon that the current debt trajectory,

**[01:07:25.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001220)  
will not compromise long-term fiscal sustainability and intergenerational security?

**[01:07:34.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001220-split-2)  
Yes.

**[01:07:34.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001220-split-3)  
And equity?

**[01:07:35.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001221)  
Yes, Mrs. Speaker. In fact, one of the reasons why we are mentioning also the benchmark,

**[01:07:40.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001222)  
the 70% international benchmark, is that we are low, low below the benchmark wherein dapat tayo ay mag-worry.

**[01:07:49.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001223)  
In fact, kung titignan po natin ang ating gross borrowing rate,

**[01:07:54.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001224)  
mas malaki po yung mga

**[01:07:55.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001225)  
Progressive na bansa tulad ng Japan, United States of America, mas mataas po yung kanilang gross borrowing.

**[01:08:03.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001226)  
Bibigyan ko lang po kayo ng data.

**[01:08:06.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001227)  
Based on the debt levels po, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, ng ating bansa, as compared with the other ASEAN countries.

**[01:08:13.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001228)  
In the ASEAN countries, Mr. Speaker, Malaysia, Thailand, Laos,

**[01:08:21.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001229)  
have projected a much, much bigger debt.

**[01:08:25.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001230)  
In terms of the 70% baseline benchmark po ng International Monetary Fund.

**[01:08:33.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001231)  
To say, for example, that there will be a trouble in terms of fiscal sustainability or debt sustainability.

**[01:08:39.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001232)  
Sa Pilipinas po, way, way below.

**[01:08:41.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001233)  
Again, I've mentioned earlier, 56.8% lang po yung ating debt to GDP.

**[01:08:47.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001234)  
And based on the prudent fiscal management that we have, as we have already until today itemized,

**[01:08:54.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001235)  
total tax reform packages.

**[01:08:55.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001236)  
It would even go lower, no?

**[01:08:58.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001237)  
It would even go lower in the coming years, no?

**[01:09:02.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001238)  
We anticipate that in the next year, it will be down to 56.1%.

**[01:09:07.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001239)  
So, basically, if we do reference, use the reference of the International Monetary Rate as our basis

**[01:09:16.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001240)  
to either say that we are now in deep trouble or we are okay or healthy in our financial standing,

**[01:09:23.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001241)  
I think the number would not lie.

**[01:09:25.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001242)  
56.8% is way, way below the 70% benchmark on the International Monetary Rate na sinasabi po nilang medyo may problema doon.

**[01:09:43.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001243)  
So, medyo mababa po yung ating rate doon.

**[01:09:46.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001244)  
So, ibig sabihin po, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, wala po dapat ipangamba ang taong bayan.

**[01:09:54.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001245)  
Hindi po tayo dapat.

**[01:09:55.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001246)  
Mag-alala sa utang natin.

**[01:09:57.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001247)  
Yes, Mrs. Speaker.

**[01:09:58.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001248)  
We can confidently say that dapat huwag tayo mangamba dahil unang-una.

**[01:10:04.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001249)  
Again, let me reiterate because we're talking about borrowing.

**[01:10:06.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001250)  
We're also talking about our gross borrowing.

**[01:10:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001251)  
Sinasabi po natin na hindi po tayo mapagamba kasi very less po yung possibility that we will also be affected

**[01:10:16.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001252)  
by international shocks or the fluctuating monetary rates kasi ang borrowing pala talaga natin are mostly our gross domestic borrowing,

**[01:10:25.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001253)  
Mrs. Speaker.

**[01:10:25.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001254)  
At sinasabi po natin, ang ating nagiging baseline is yung 70% po na threshold na binigay po ng World Bank na sinabi po ng World Bank

**[01:10:33.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001255)  
na para ma-determine whether the sustainable yung debt levels ng ating bansa.

**[01:10:39.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001256)  
Again, I've already given, Mr. Speaker, your honors, the numbers.

**[01:10:44.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001257)  
Mrs. Speaker, your honors.

**[01:10:45.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001258)  
That is why with 58.6%, no, ang ating, ang ating, ang ating, ano, debt, no,

**[01:10:55.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001259)  
debt to GDP, Mrs. Speaker, ay medyo mababa.

**[01:10:59.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001260)  
Iyon po yung rason, Mrs. Speaker, na marami pong pumapasok sa atin ng mga investors.

**[01:11:04.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001261)  
We have, because we have a very good investment ratings, no.

**[01:11:08.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001262)  
In fact, the best rating agencies also come out with that study na among many countries, as I've cited to you,

**[01:11:16.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001263)  
just to specifically give you an example, sa ASEAN, we are the lowest, no, ng rate na sinabi po ng,

**[01:11:25.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001264)  
ating data.

**[01:11:27.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001265)  
At the same time, mataas po ang ating credit rating.

**[01:11:30.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001266)  
That's why many investors do have confidence to put up their money in this country, Mrs. Speaker.

**[01:11:35.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001267)  
So, yes, to give you a short answer, we are confident and we are, we can manage over the years.

**[01:11:40.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001268)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, sa inyong kasagutan.

**[01:11:44.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001269)  
Sa punto po kasing ito, nilalatag natin ang lahat ng mga numero, pero ang akin lang pong isang, maibahagi ko lang po,

**[01:11:55.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001270)  
sa, hindi po ako ekonomista, gusto ko pong unawain ang kalagayan ng ating bansa,

**[01:12:02.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001271)  
isa lang po ang naiintindihan ko sa puntong ito bilang mambabatas at sa experience ko bilang mambabatas,

**[01:12:08.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001272)  
itong mga numero ito, hindi maintindihan kung ang ating, sa pagganap ng ating batas,

**[01:12:16.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001273)  
tuwing-tugi tayo magpapasa ng batas, magiging unfunded mandate, kasi walang pera.

**[01:12:24.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001274)  
Kapag po tayo ay,

**[01:12:25.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001275)  
Kaya tuwing budget hearing, magre-request po tayo na taasan ng mga pondo para sa mga programa at proyektong tingin natin ay dapat naman talaga mabigyan ng mataas na pagpupondo.

**[01:12:40.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001276)  
Katulad po sa human capital development, paano po natin maiintindihan yung mga figures na yan na sinasabing manageable yan, sustainable, kaya hindi po masama ang mangutang, lalo na po kung inuutang natin will redound to the greater benefit of our people.

**[01:12:58.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001277)  
Pero ang nakakabahala lang po kasi tuwing-tuwing magbabudget hearing tayo, ang atin pong naririnig lagi, tight fiscal space.

**[01:13:10.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001278)  
Hindi ko po alam kung default answer yan or excuse, pero tuwing-tuwi, tight fiscal space.

**[01:13:18.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001279)  
Ang tanong ko po, huling katanungan ko na lamang po, paano pa ho ba natin luluwagan ang fiscal space na ito?

**[01:13:26.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001280)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, marami pong posibleng kasagutan dyan, pero as far as the Department of Finance is concerned,

**[01:13:35.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001281)  
and its main task really is to source out,

**[01:13:40.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001282)  
revenue in order that we can finance capital investments, kung ano po yung mga gastusin ng ating bansa, of course, hindi po tayo matatapos sa 30 minutes kung tayo po iisa-isahin.

**[01:13:51.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001283)  
Pero kaya nga po, meron po tayong prudent fiscal management para nata-target po natin kung ano yung paggagastusan ng ating bawat ehansya.

**[01:14:00.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001284)  
Ay yun po ay binabangga po natin kung ano pong meron tayo as a relative, just to give you a straight answer, pareho tayo, hindi po rin ako ekonomista,

**[01:14:07.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001285)  
pero ang tinitingnan ko po ay paano yung nagiging...

**[01:14:10.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001286)  
nagiging returns itong mga services na ito sa ating mga kababayan.

**[01:14:14.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001287)  
So definitely, there are, should be, number one, a prudent fiscal planning.

**[01:14:19.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001288)  
The fiscal management will only expand if there are revenues that we collect,

**[01:14:26.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001289)  
not only from the tax revenue collection, but even the non-tax proceeds, the revenues.

**[01:14:32.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001290)  
So it's how we can actually generate local economy, generate more jobs,

**[01:14:40.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001291)  
and as well as to, you know, to get more revenue in order that we can actually expand the fiscal space.

**[01:14:50.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001292)  
Kasi mag-expand lang po yan kung gaano rin po kalaki yung ating pera.

**[01:14:57.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001293)  
Kaya babalikan ko po kasi I think the question...

**[01:15:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001294)  
was premised on pangungutang.

**[01:15:02.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001295)  
Kaya nga po, ang pangungutang hindi naman po talaga siya masama.

**[01:15:05.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001296)  
Kaya nga, dapat meron coupled with prudent fiscal planning

**[01:15:09.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001297)  
kasi yung pangungutang, mas maganda po yan

**[01:15:11.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001298)  
kung nagtitrigger po yan ng economic activity sa baba.

**[01:15:14.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001299)  
And you agree on me on this, Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:15:17.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001300)  
Kaya nga po, talagang ginagawa po natin

**[01:15:19.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001301)  
na mapababa din po yung ating debt to GDP,

**[01:15:24.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001302)  
deficit to GDP, kasi sa standing po talaga natin

**[01:15:27.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001303)  
is sustainable pa po yung ating debt levels

**[01:15:30.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001304)  
at saka doon po yung rason kung bakit marami pong pumapasok

**[01:15:33.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001305)  
sa atin ng mga investors at dinadala po nila

**[01:15:36.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001306)  
ang kanilang mga kapital dito sa ating bansa

**[01:15:38.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001307)  
na nakakapagdagdag din po to revenue

**[01:15:41.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001308)  
or possible na pinagkukuhanan po natin

**[01:15:44.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001309)  
ng paggagastusan para po mapalawak po natin

**[01:15:47.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001310)  
at mapalaki po natin ang ating fiscal space.

**[01:15:51.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001311)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:15:52.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001312)  
So just to give you that answer,

**[01:15:55.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001313)  
I think holistically, it also,

**[01:15:57.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001314)  
comes different on different levels and different variables.

**[01:16:01.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001315)  
Pero sa ngayon po, based on the data, sinasabi po natin,

**[01:16:05.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001316)  
we anticipate also the growth as far as how the trajectory

**[01:16:09.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001317)  
of the data of the Department of Finance is concerned

**[01:16:13.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001318)  
and we hope that it can continue on

**[01:16:15.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001319)  
because our number one priority is not just to lower down our debt to GDP

**[01:16:18.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001320)  
but also to create more or to spur the local economy in our country

**[01:16:23.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001321)  
so that it can also be translated into more revenue

**[01:16:26.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001322)  
that the DOF can collect.

**[01:16:28.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001323)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:16:30.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001324)  
kagalang-galang na sponsor.

**[01:16:32.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001325)  
Siguro po sa puntong ito,

**[01:16:35.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001326)  
hayaan nyo na lamang po akong ipahayag

**[01:16:37.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001327)  
na ako'y kaisa ninyo na umaasa

**[01:16:39.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001328)  
na makakamit natin ang lahat na assumptions

**[01:16:42.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001329)  
na inyong inilatag kanina

**[01:16:44.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001330)  
para po pagbalik ninyo sa bulwagang ito

**[01:16:49.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001331)  
sa susunod na taon, sa susunod na budget hearing

**[01:16:52.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001332)  
ay masasabi nyo na po sa amin

**[01:16:54.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001333)  
na nakaluwag-luwag na tayo.

**[01:16:56.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001334)  
Maraming salamat.

**[01:16:57.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001335)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, and to the DOF.

**[01:17:01.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001336)  
Mr. Speaker, idadagdag ko lang po

**[01:17:02.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001337)  
para po mapanatag po ang kalooban ng ating mga kasamahan dito

**[01:17:06.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001338)  
lalong-lalong na po ang good interpellator.

**[01:17:09.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001339)  
In fact, Mr. Speaker, one indication na okay lang po po yung kating katayuan

**[01:17:12.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001340)  
dahil we are actually spending more than compared to our ASEAN neighbors, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:17:19.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001341)  
In fact, may 22% po of our GDP is what we used for expenditure.

**[01:17:24.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001342)  
We spent so much, Mr. Speaker, and so more.

**[01:17:26.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001343)  
Ibig sabihin, malaki po yung...

**[01:17:27.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001344)  
ating pumapasok po sa atin na ating nagagastos. [unclear] Honor.

**[01:17:34.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001345)  
Thank you po, Mr. Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:17:37.620] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-001346)  
Thank you very much, Majority Leader.

**[01:17:40.300] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-001347)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor,

**[01:17:43.020] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-001348)  
I move to recognize Representative JCM Abalos

**[01:17:46.680] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-001349)  
of 4P's Party List.

**[01:17:49.300] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-001350)  
The Honorable JC Abalos is recognized.

**[01:17:54.160] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001351)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker, sa DOF,

**[01:17:56.580] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001352)  
pati sa kanyang mga naka-akibat na ahensya, magandang magandang tanghali po.

**[01:18:01.220] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001353)  
Mr. Speaker, is the Distinguished Sponsor willing to yield to this representation

**[01:18:04.580] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001354)  
for a very few amount of questions?

**[01:18:06.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001355)  
Nobody says no to Abalos from Mandaluyong, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:18:10.900] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001356)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:18:12.880] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001357)  
Sa pagkakataong ito, Mr. Speaker, may mga katanungan lamang po ako

**[01:18:17.020] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001358)  
tungkol sa RPVARA o ang tinatawag nating Real Property Assessment and Valuation and Assessment Reform Act.

**[01:18:26.180] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001359)  
Mr. Speaker, Republic Act No. 12001,

**[01:18:30.960] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001360)  
otherwise known as the Real Property Valuation and Assessment Reform Act,

**[01:18:35.200] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001361)  
was enacted to modernize and standardize the country's real property valuation and assessment system,

**[01:18:42.540] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001362)  
promote transparency, improve tax administration,

**[01:18:46.220] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001363)  
and strengthen fiscal capacity of local government units.

**[01:18:51.020] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001364)  
Mr. Speaker, while the objectives of the law remain worthy and necessary,

**[01:18:56.020] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001367)  
This representation believes that we have the continuing duty to ensure that the implementation remains responsive to prevailing economic realities and does not result in unintended burdens upon the Filipino people.

**[01:19:10.660] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001368)  
Mr. Speaker, mula noong naisabatas natin ang RPVARA, mula noon hanggang ngayon, nagbago na po ang economic realities na hinaharap ng ating bansa.

**[01:19:20.100] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001369)  
Noong ito ay naipasa, hindi pa po nangyari ang Middle East oil crisis at hindi pa po ganun kasama ang inflation.

**[01:19:28.880] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001370)  
If I may add po, Mr. Speaker, nag-file po tayo ng House Resolution noong nakaraang July kung saan nananawagan po tayo na panahon na po siguro na reviewhin natin ang RPVARA at aralin po natin kung napapanahon po ba ito or kung kakailanganin siyang suspindihin.

**[01:19:47.920] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001371)  
And, Mr. Speaker, if I may add...

**[01:19:50.100] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001372)  
Last August, no less than our President, President Bongbong Marcos, sought for temporary suspension of real property valuation implementation to protect businesses and investments.

**[01:20:05.360] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001373)  
If I may quote, Mr. Speaker, ang ating Palace Press Officer, sinabi po ng ating Pangulo noong nakaraang Augusto, nagpanukala si Pangulong Ferdinand Marcos Jr. sa dalawang kapulungan ng LEDAC meeting noong August 6, 2026,

**[01:20:19.040] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001374)  
na pansamantalang pagsuspende ng

**[01:20:21.760] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001375)  
pagpapatupad ng Real Property Valuation and Assessment Reform Act or RPVARA upang maiwasan ang karagdagang mga gastos sa ari-arian para sa mga negosyo,

**[01:20:32.740] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001376)  
suportahan ang mga pamumuhunan at tiyakin ang isang dahan-dahan at makatwirang transisyon patungo sa bagong valuation system.

**[01:20:41.200] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001377)  
At ito rin po ang naging rekomendasyon ng Private Sector Advisory Council.

**[01:20:46.860] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001378)  
That being said, Mr. Speaker, gusto ko po malaman...

**[01:20:50.100] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001379)  
sa DOF, kung ano po ang kanilang posisyon pagdating po sa pagsuspende ng RPVARA.

**[01:20:56.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001380)  
Mr. Speaker, ang Department of Finance naman po ay nag-complying with whatever policies and enactment of any laws in relation to any of the taxes, the form of taxes that the Congress would impose or would enact.

**[01:21:12.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001381)  
So, isa po rito yung RPVARA.

**[01:21:14.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001382)  
So, ang posisyon po ng Department of Finance dyan ay willing po sila. May defer implementation.

**[01:21:18.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001383)  
In fact, kung yun po ang ninanais ng legislatura, halimbawa, to extend the suspension or defer the implementation of RPVARA,

**[01:21:30.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001384)  
then Department of Finance more than willing to implement the extension, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:21:38.400] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001385)  
Mr. Speaker, before I wind up my interpellation for the DOF, para lang po sa appreciation ng ating mga kababayan na nakikinig ngayon,

**[01:21:47.180] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001386)  
dahil marami pong panawagan na suspendehin yung RPVARA mula po sa mga assessor, mula sa mga stakeholder, at mula rin po sa ating Pangulo.

**[01:21:57.740] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001387)  
Meron po bang datos ang DOF kung ano ang maaaring economic impact kung sakaling itutuloy po natin ang RPVARA as scheduled?

**[01:22:07.960] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001388)  
Dahil sa aking pag-unawa, Mr. Speaker, kung magkakaroon po tayo ng bagong schedule of market values, maraming buwis po ang pwedeng maapektuhan.

**[01:22:17.180] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001389)  
Magpabigat sa ating mga kababayan. Isa na po dito ang binabayad nating amilyar, capital gains tax, documentary stamp tax siguro, donor's tax.

**[01:22:28.060] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001390)  
May epekto rin po ba ito sa cost of housing? Paano po nito aapektuhan ang mga negosyo, ang mga upa, ang presyo ng upa?

**[01:22:36.740] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001391)  
So maaari po ba, Mr. Speaker, ipaliwanag sa atin ng DOF kung ano po ang posibleng economic impact ng RPVARA if we continue?

**[01:22:47.180] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001392)  
As scheduled.

**[01:22:52.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001393)  
Yeah, Mr. Speaker, Your Honors. Well, wala hong, there's no, there's no actual and definite data that we can provide, the good gentleman, from Congressman Abalos.

**[01:23:05.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001394)  
But certainly, Mr. Speaker, kasi ang formulation po nito ng RPVARA is this is a local government revenue, hindi naman po siya national taxes.

**[01:23:17.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001395)  
Talking about local assessors, you understand also the impact of this on our people.

**[01:23:21.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001396)  
Kasi every local assessors would also, the valuation board would also depend on the income classification of each city and municipality.

**[01:23:30.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001397)  
Kaya nga po ang ating Department of Finance is supporting whatever would be to defer implementation of RPVARA.

**[01:23:39.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001398)  
So going back to your question, probably mayroon pong slowing down of economic activity.

**[01:23:47.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001399)  
Probably.

**[01:23:48.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001400)  
But as to, as concrete and tangible answer to that, based on concrete data that we have, wala po sa ngayon ang Department of Finance.

**[01:23:56.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001401)  
Because again, these are normally resourced out or be collected from the local government revenue, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:24:06.700] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001402)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Distinguished Sponsor.

**[01:24:09.500] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001403)  
Mr. Speaker, for expediency, naniniwala po ako, Mr. Speaker, na hindi naman po basta-basta mananawagan ng ating,

**[01:24:17.180] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001404)  
Pangulo, na suspendihin yung RPVARA kung wala po tayong pinapagbasihan.

**[01:24:21.460] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001405)  
So for expediency, Mr. Speaker, at dahil meron rin naman po ako nakahain na House Resolution na nananawagan na reviewhin natin yung RPVARA,

**[01:24:29.340] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001406)  
baka maaaring mag-furnish na lang po ang DOF sa representasyong ito, kung ano yung maaaring available data,

**[01:24:35.640] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001407)  
kung ano po ang inyong policy recommendations para at least ma-address po natin ang concerns ng ating mga kababayan.

**[01:24:43.400] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001408)  
Yun lamang po, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:24:44.560] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001409)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[01:24:45.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001409-split-2)  
We can guarantee.

**[01:24:47.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001410)  
We can ensure and we can assure the good gentleman, good interpellator.

**[01:24:53.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001411)  
Magbibigay po kami mga kinakailangan niyo po o ninanais niyo po ang data galing po sa Department of Finance.

**[01:25:00.420] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001412)  
Maraming salamat.

**[01:25:01.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001413)  
And advance congratulations po and good luck po sa inyong resolution na ipafile.

**[01:25:06.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001414)  
So supportado po kami dyan.

**[01:25:07.740] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-001415)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Distinguished Sponsor, and sa DOF, no further questions po. Thank you po.

**[01:25:13.160] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-001416)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:25:14.580] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-001417)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor.

**[01:25:17.180] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-001418)  
I move to recognize Representative Edgar R. Erice of the 2nd District, Caloocan City.

**[01:25:25.260] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-001419)  
Honorable Edgar Erice, you are recognized, sir. Please proceed.

**[01:25:32.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001420)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Speaker, sa ating Majority Leader at ginoong sponsor.

**[01:25:38.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001421)  
Good afternoon.

**[01:25:42.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001422)  
Ang pinakamahalagang tanong sa 2027 National Budget ay hindi lamang,

**[01:25:47.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001423)  
kung magkano ang nais gastusin ng pamahalaan.

**[01:25:51.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001424)  
Ang mas mahalagang tanong ay may kakayahan ba talaga tayong likumin

**[01:25:55.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001425)  
ang salaping ipinangakong gagastusin.

**[01:26:00.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001426)  
Ang target nakita para sa 2027 ay humigit kumulang 5.26 trillion.

**[01:26:09.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001427)  
Halos 399 bilyong mas mataas kaysa sa binagong target para sa 2026.

**[01:26:17.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001428)  
Ngunit, habang itinataas natin ng target, bumabagal ang paglago ng ekonomiya.

**[01:26:24.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001429)  
Humihina ang pamumuhunan.

**[01:26:26.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001430)  
May mga panukalang magbabawas ng umiiral na kita at may mga bagong buwis na maaaring magpaliit naman sa mismong tax base.

**[01:26:36.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001431)  
Kaya, ito po ang aking mga katanungan.

**[01:26:40.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001432)  
Una, what is the specific basis for the 5.26 trillion revenue target for 2027?

**[01:26:47.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001434)  
How much of the increase will come from the economic growth, from inflation, new taxes, improved collection, digitalization, anti-smuggling measures, and one-time revenues?

**[01:27:04.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001435)  
May I just be clarified, Mr. Speaker?

**[01:27:07.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001436)  
Is the good gentleman asking for the breakdown or the basis for the 5.6 trillion?

**[01:27:15.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001437)  
Maybe just a ballpark

**[01:27:17.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001438)  
figure. On how

**[01:27:19.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001439)  
Okay.

**[01:27:20.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001440)  
did you arrive with the 5.26 trillion target?

**[01:27:33.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001441)  
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:27:34.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001442)  
Let me just give you the comprehensive summary of the basis, of the amount that was mentioned by the good interpellator, Congressman Erice.

**[01:27:46.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001443)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, the revenue targets are based

**[01:27:48.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001444)  
on the latest macroeconomic

**[01:27:50.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001445)  
variables approved by

**[01:27:52.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001446)  
the DBCC. The

**[01:27:54.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001447)  
Department of Finance uses a buoyancy or

**[01:27:56.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001448)  
elasticity-based model in projecting the

**[01:27:58.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001449)  
revenues, Mr. Speaker. And the projected

**[01:28:00.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001450)  
398.6

**[01:28:02.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001451)  
billion year-on-year increase

**[01:28:04.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001452)  
in the revenues in

**[01:28:05.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001453)  
2027

**[01:28:08.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001454)  
will mainly come from

**[01:28:10.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001455)  
tax revenues

**[01:28:11.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001456)  
increasing by

**[01:28:13.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001457)  
409.2 billion pesos

**[01:28:16.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001458)  
but with expected decline,

**[01:28:18.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001459)  
Mr. Speaker, in the non-tax revenues

**[01:28:19.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001460)  
by 10.7 billion pesos.

**[01:28:22.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001461)  
Hence, the net increase

**[01:28:24.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001462)  
of 398.6

**[01:28:26.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001463)  
billion pesos.

**[01:28:28.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001464)  
Furthermore, Mr. Speaker, the 409.2

**[01:28:30.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001465)  
billion tax revenue increase

**[01:28:32.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001466)  
in 2027, or

**[01:28:34.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001467)  
around 9.21%,

**[01:28:36.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001468)  
is broadly in line with the

**[01:28:38.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001469)  
DBCC-approved projected nominal

**[01:28:40.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001470)  
GDP increase of

**[01:28:42.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001471)  
9.13%.

**[01:28:43.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001472)  
The nominal GDP

**[01:28:46.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001473)  
is what we use, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:28:47.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001474)  
as a proxy for a tax revenue

**[01:28:49.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001475)  
base. So, of the

**[01:28:51.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001476)  
409.2 billion tax

**[01:28:53.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001477)  
revenue increase, BIR

**[01:28:55.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001478)  
will contribute

**[01:28:56.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001479)  
342.8 billion pesos.

**[01:28:59.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001480)  
Just to cite to you what are

**[01:29:01.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001481)  
the sources, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:29:03.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001482)  
BIR will be contributing 342.8

**[01:29:07.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001483)  
billion pesos.

**[01:29:08.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001484)  
And from the Bureau of Customs,

**[01:29:09.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001485)  
63.6 billion

**[01:29:11.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001486)  
pesos.

**[01:29:13.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001487)  
And from other offices,

**[01:29:15.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001488)  
attached agencies,

**[01:29:16.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001489)  
is 2.8 billion

**[01:29:17.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001490)  
pesos, Mr. Speaker. So, in 2027,

**[01:29:20.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001491)  
Mr. Speaker, fiscal year,

**[01:29:22.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001492)  
we assume that

**[01:29:23.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001493)  
the real GDP growth rate

**[01:29:25.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001494)  
range is

**[01:29:26.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001495)  
about 5 to 6 percent.

**[01:29:29.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001496)  
So, in case this will

**[01:29:31.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001497)  
not materialize again, because this is

**[01:29:33.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001498)  
just a projected rate,

**[01:29:37.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001499)  
every 1%

**[01:29:38.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001500)  
percentage point decline

**[01:29:39.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001501)  
would definitely

**[01:29:41.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001502)  
translate into lowering tax revenue.

**[01:29:43.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001503)  
Every 1%?

**[01:29:45.350] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001504)  
Pardon? Pardon?

**[01:29:46.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001505)  
Every 1%?

**[01:29:47.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001506)  
Every 1%? How much will be the decrease?

**[01:29:48.690] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001507)  
Well, if the 1% decline,

**[01:29:51.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001508)  
Mr. Speaker, will then translate

**[01:29:53.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001509)  
into lower tax revenue

**[01:29:55.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001510)  
by 38.8 billion pesos.

**[01:29:58.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001511)  
So, how will you

**[01:30:00.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001513)  
compensate?

**[01:30:02.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001514)  
For example,

**[01:30:04.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001515)  
for this year, half of the year

**[01:30:06.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001516)  
our average

**[01:30:08.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001517)  
GDP increase is only

**[01:30:10.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001518)  
2.6%. So,

**[01:30:13.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001519)  
paano po kung meron po

**[01:30:14.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001520)  
ba kayong

**[01:30:14.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001521)  
sensitivity analysis

**[01:30:18.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001522)  
kung 2% lang, 3%

**[01:30:20.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001523)  
lang, or 4% lang

**[01:30:22.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001524)  
yung maging paglago

**[01:30:24.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001525)  
ng ating ekonomiya?

**[01:30:26.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001526)  
Well, we would try, the Department of Finance will try

**[01:30:28.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001527)  
to increase the dividend

**[01:30:30.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001528)  
tax

**[01:30:32.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001529)  
dividend

**[01:30:33.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001530)  
dividend rates from

**[01:30:35.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001531)  
from 50 to 75%

**[01:30:44.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001532)  
and we are increasing aggressively

**[01:30:46.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001533)  
trying to increase

**[01:30:48.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001534)  
our

**[01:30:49.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001535)  
dividend rates

**[01:30:54.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001536)  
and non-tax revenue, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:30:56.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001537)  
Your Honors. So, we got dividend

**[01:30:58.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001538)  
Mr. Speaker, increasingly

**[01:31:00.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001539)  
aggressively sourced out

**[01:31:02.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001540)  
hopefully from 50% to

**[01:31:04.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001541)  
75% from the GOCC

**[01:31:06.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001542)  
advances and proceeds from other

**[01:31:08.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001543)  
non-tax

**[01:31:10.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001544)  
revenue collectibles.

**[01:31:13.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001545)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:31:13.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001546)  
So, any

**[01:31:15.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001547)  
decrease in the

**[01:31:17.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001548)  
GDP rate

**[01:31:19.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001549)  
will be compensated by?

**[01:31:24.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001550)  
Mr. Speaker, again, let me just

**[01:31:25.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001551)  
reiterate that to compensate on

**[01:31:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001552)  
the losses,

**[01:31:28.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001553)  
Mr. Speaker, the Department of Finance

**[01:31:30.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001554)  
will aggressively

**[01:31:30.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001555)  
try to get more from

**[01:31:34.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001556)  
increasing the dividends from

**[01:31:36.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001557)  
our GOCCs

**[01:31:37.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001558)  
from 50% to 75%.

**[01:31:40.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001559)  
These are the dividends rates, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:31:42.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001560)  
as well as from non-tax revenue

**[01:31:44.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001561)  
collections,

**[01:31:46.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001562)  
Mr. Speaker. So, we will be

**[01:31:48.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001563)  
projecting about probably

**[01:31:50.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001564)  
selling some

**[01:31:51.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001565)  
government

**[01:31:52.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001566)  
properties.

**[01:31:54.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001567)  
Yeah, selling

**[01:31:55.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001568)  
some government properties,

**[01:31:58.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001569)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:31:59.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001570)  
Is borrowing an option?

**[01:32:02.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001571)  
Additional borrowings an option?

**[01:32:04.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001572)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker. That is still part of

**[01:32:06.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001573)  
the mixture of, in order to

**[01:32:08.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001574)  
come up with the necessary

**[01:32:10.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001575)  
necessary

**[01:32:13.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001576)  
pondo,

**[01:32:18.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001577)  
how would I say it,

**[01:32:20.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001578)  
kabuuan na panggastusin po

**[01:32:22.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001579)  
ng ating bansa.

**[01:32:23.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001580)  
Nangako po ang Pangulo ng

**[01:32:25.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001581)  
350,000, ng

**[01:32:26.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001582)  
increase,

**[01:32:28.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001583)  
increasing exemptions of

**[01:32:29.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001584)  
income tax to

**[01:32:31.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001585)  
350,000.

**[01:32:35.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001586)  
Ano po ang estimate na

**[01:32:38.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001587)  
revenue loss

**[01:32:41.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001588)  
para po dito?

**[01:32:43.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001589)  
Will it be

**[01:32:43.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001590)  
implemented

**[01:32:47.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001591)  
2027?

**[01:32:51.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001592)  
For 2027,

**[01:32:53.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001593)  
it's

**[01:32:54.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001594)  
61.6

**[01:32:55.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001595)  
billion pesos.

**[01:32:58.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001596)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:33:04.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001597)  
Pardon?

**[01:33:06.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001598)  
You're asking, Mr. Speaker, about the losses.

**[01:33:07.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001599)  
Yes, 60 point.

**[01:33:09.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001600)  
And projected losses in 2027?

**[01:33:11.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001601)  
And how will it be compensated?

**[01:33:24.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001602)  
Mr. Speaker, since

**[01:33:26.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001603)  
this proposed measure is not

**[01:33:28.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001604)  
even legislated or has become a law,

**[01:33:30.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001605)  
it's not even part of the

**[01:33:33.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001606)  
So, ito pong pangako ng Pangulo sa SONA.

**[01:33:36.650] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001607)  
We can only give you,

**[01:33:38.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001608)  
give the good gentleman,

**[01:33:40.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001609)  
a projected revenue losses

**[01:33:43.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001610)  
if the NEP will be

**[01:33:47.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001611)  
passed into law, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:33:48.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001612)  
But just to give you projected,

**[01:33:50.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001613)  
Mr. Speaker, in 2027 is 61.6 billion pesos.

**[01:33:54.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001614)  
But there is a great possibility that it will be implemented because the President,

**[01:33:58.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001615)  
the President, said so.

**[01:34:02.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001616)  
So, papano po ito,

**[01:34:04.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001617)  
papano po

**[01:34:06.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001618)  
makakompensate yung additional

**[01:34:08.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001619)  
60 billion revenue

**[01:34:10.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001620)  
loss?

**[01:34:10.570] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001620-split-2)  
Again, Mr. Speaker, yes, the

**[01:34:12.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001621)  
projection, we're talking about the projection.

**[01:34:14.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001622)  
Yes, it has not become,

**[01:34:16.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001623)  
it has not yet become a law. So, in the

**[01:34:18.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001624)  
projection, Mr. Speaker, again,

**[01:34:20.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001625)  
the good gentleman is asking,

**[01:34:22.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001626)  
the losses is 67.02

**[01:34:24.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001627)  
billion pesos.

**[01:34:26.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001628)  
But there are also other projected,

**[01:34:28.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001629)  
revenue collection that we can get.

**[01:34:30.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001630)  
These are the positive,

**[01:34:32.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001631)  
progressive

**[01:34:34.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001632)  
revenue generating

**[01:34:36.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001633)  
reforms that we have already identified.

**[01:34:38.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001634)  
Again, let me just go

**[01:34:40.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001635)  
back to the itemized,

**[01:34:42.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001636)  
you know,

**[01:34:44.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001637)  
itemized sector

**[01:34:46.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001638)  
or identified

**[01:34:48.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001639)  
products, I may call it.

**[01:34:50.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001640)  
It's part

**[01:34:52.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001641)  
of our tax reform

**[01:34:54.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001642)  
package. Isa po dito yung sa

**[01:34:55.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001643)  
automobiles.

**[01:34:57.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001644)  
E-cigarettes,

**[01:34:59.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001645)  
and novel tobacco,

**[01:35:01.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001646)  
plastics, sweetened beverages,

**[01:35:03.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001647)  
distilled spirits.

**[01:35:05.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001648)  
So every root, which

**[01:35:07.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001649)  
basically has a

**[01:35:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001650)  
subtotal around 110.64

**[01:35:11.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001651)  
billion pesos.

**[01:35:13.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001652)  
So, if you deduct the

**[01:35:15.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001653)  
projected losses, which is around

**[01:35:17.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001654)  
67.2 billion pesos,

**[01:35:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001655)  
we still

**[01:35:21.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001656)  
are good

**[01:35:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001657)  
in terms of

**[01:35:25.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001658)  
the

**[01:35:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001659)  
gains, which is about

**[01:35:29.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001660)  
43.62 billion pesos.

**[01:35:31.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001661)  
So, meron pa po tayong sukli.

**[01:35:33.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001662)  
Mr. Speaker, ang ibig po

**[01:35:35.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001663)  
niyong sabihin, dito po sa

**[01:35:37.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001664)  
5.26 trillion target,

**[01:35:39.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001665)  
hindi pa po dito incorporated

**[01:35:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001666)  
yung possible loss of 60 billion?

**[01:35:43.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001667)  
Hindi pa po, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:35:45.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001668)  
Bakit po?

**[01:35:47.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001669)  
It's still a proposed,

**[01:35:49.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001670)  
it's still a proposed,

**[01:35:51.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001671)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:35:53.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001672)  
it's still a proposal, Mr. Speaker, to the

**[01:35:55.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001673)  
House of Representatives. Again, this is our projection.

**[01:35:57.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001674)  
Ito po ay inaasahan ng mga mamamayang Pilipino.

**[01:35:59.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001675)  
Yes, well, once

**[01:36:01.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001676)  
it becomes a law, that would be

**[01:36:03.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001677)  
dun po natin

**[01:36:05.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001678)  
makikita. Kasi,

**[01:36:07.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001679)  
of course, ito po ay pinag-uusapan

**[01:36:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001680)  
ng mga projected na data.

**[01:36:11.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001681)  
So, kung ang tanong po ninyo ay

**[01:36:13.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001682)  
ito ba ay mararamdaman,

**[01:36:15.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001683)  
yes, mararamdaman po kung ito pong proposal

**[01:36:17.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001684)  
na ito ay may sa batas na po

**[01:36:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001685)  
natin. At dun na po natin makikita talaga

**[01:36:21.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001686)  
yung ano yung magiging collection

**[01:36:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001687)  
po natin at ano po yung kinakailangan po

**[01:36:25.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001688)  
nating utangin para mag-compensate po.

**[01:36:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001689)  
Doon sa mga losses na possible na mangyari.

**[01:36:29.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001690)  
Mahalaga po na

**[01:36:31.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001691)  
ito ay considered. Dahil

**[01:36:33.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001692)  
inaasahan po ito ng mamamayang Pilipino.

**[01:36:35.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001693)  
Tama po yan, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:36:37.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001694)  
If the travel tax is abolished,

**[01:36:39.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001695)  
how much annual revenue will government

**[01:36:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001696)  
lose?

**[01:36:43.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001697)  
Four?

**[01:36:47.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001698)  
Is that loss

**[01:36:49.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001699)  
already incorporated

**[01:36:51.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001700)  
to the

**[01:36:53.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001701)  
2027 fiscal program

**[01:36:55.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001702)  
as a

**[01:36:57.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001703)  
as this travel tax

**[01:36:59.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001704)  
finances

**[01:37:01.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001705)  
Tiesa, CHED, and NCAA?

**[01:37:03.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001706)  
Ano po, Mr. Speaker?

**[01:37:05.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001707)  
I'm sorry po. Just to give you po isa

**[01:37:07.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001708)  
micro

**[01:37:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001709)  
small

**[01:37:11.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001710)  
income tax.

**[01:37:13.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001711)  
Hindi po, yung travel tax.

**[01:37:15.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001712)  
Ah, travel tax.

**[01:37:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001713)  
Mr. Speaker, yung mga

**[01:37:21.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001714)  
sa travel tax, it goes directly

**[01:37:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001715)  
I think this is part of the earmark revenue.

**[01:37:25.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001716)  
It goes directly to specific agency.

**[01:37:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001717)  
This is intended

**[01:37:29.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001718)  
for the Department of Tourism

**[01:37:31.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001719)  
and Department of

**[01:37:33.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001720)  
CHED ba?

**[01:37:35.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001721)  
CHED. Meron pong pending, may pending

**[01:37:37.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001722)  
legislation. Nakapasa na sa atin

**[01:37:39.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001723)  
dito sa House at

**[01:37:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001724)  
I think it's already

**[01:37:43.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001725)  
for consideration

**[01:37:45.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001726)  
sa Senate. So kung makakapasa

**[01:37:47.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001727)  
ito, meron na po bang

**[01:37:49.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001728)  
naka-incorporate

**[01:37:53.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001729)  
na po sa 2027

**[01:37:55.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001730)  
budget yung magiging

**[01:37:57.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001731)  
subsidy for Tiesa,

**[01:37:59.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001732)  
CHED, and NCAA.

**[01:38:03.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001733)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:38:05.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001734)  
Your Honor, again,

**[01:38:07.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001735)  
baka yung mga ganito pong klaseng

**[01:38:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001736)  
servisyo

**[01:38:11.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001737)  
ay

**[01:38:13.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001738)  
mas nararapat po

**[01:38:15.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001739)  
na or ang DBM

**[01:38:17.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001740)  
ang meron pong

**[01:38:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001741)  
pangunahing

**[01:38:21.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001742)  
mandato para po

**[01:38:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001743)  
sa ganitong klaseng servisyo na

**[01:38:25.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001744)  
tinatanong po na ating butihing

**[01:38:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001745)  
congressman ng Caloocan

**[01:38:29.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001746)  
City.

**[01:38:31.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001746-split-2)  
Eight billion po ang

**[01:38:31.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001747)  
projected

**[01:38:33.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001748)  
na gagasusin para

**[01:38:35.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001749)  
i-subsidize itong mga agency na ito

**[01:38:37.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001750)  
at kailangan pong

**[01:38:39.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001751)  
ma-assume yan ng Department

**[01:38:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001752)  
of Finance

**[01:38:43.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001753)  
kung ma-implement by next year

**[01:38:45.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001754)  
yung exemption.

**[01:38:46.670] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001754-split-2)  
Again, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:38:47.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001755)  
the primary, alam ko po na

**[01:38:49.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001756)  
naiintindihan po ng ating butihing

**[01:38:51.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001757)  
Congressman Erice

**[01:38:53.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001758)  
yung pangunahing mandato po

**[01:38:55.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001759)  
ng

**[01:38:57.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001760)  
Department of Finance

**[01:38:59.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001761)  
basically is to

**[01:39:01.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001762)  
come up with

**[01:39:03.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001763)  
possible, yes, possible

**[01:39:05.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001764)  
apart from the projection,

**[01:39:07.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001765)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, the primary

**[01:39:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001766)  
mandate in promoting concern of Department

**[01:39:11.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001767)  
of Finance is really to come up

**[01:39:13.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001768)  
with avenues and mechanism

**[01:39:15.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001769)  
in order that we can generate

**[01:39:17.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001770)  
more revenue.

**[01:39:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001771)  
So as far as how to

**[01:39:21.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001772)  
project a certain

**[01:39:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001773)  
amount that would be used for a particular

**[01:39:25.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001774)  
program in lieu or in

**[01:39:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001775)  
compliance with any

**[01:39:29.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001776)  
laws that are passed by Congress,

**[01:39:31.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001777)  
again, Mr. Speaker, the way to itemize

**[01:39:33.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001778)  
that and to identify that

**[01:39:35.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001779)  
is primarily a mandate

**[01:39:37.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001780)  
of the Department of Budget and Management,

**[01:39:39.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001781)  
Mr. Speaker, with all due respect.

**[01:39:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001782)  
Thank you. How about the

**[01:39:43.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001783)  
value of the systems

**[01:39:45.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001784)  
losses, but

**[01:39:47.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001785)  
kung ito po ay tatanggalin na,

**[01:39:49.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001786)  
magkano po ba

**[01:39:51.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001787)  
ang assumption na

**[01:39:53.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001788)  
bababawas

**[01:39:55.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001789)  
sa kita ng gobyerno?

**[01:40:01.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001790)  
Mr. Speaker, may meron pong

**[01:40:03.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001791)  
effect po ito,

**[01:40:05.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001792)  
meron pong 10 billion na projected

**[01:40:07.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001793)  
na po pwede pong mawala.

**[01:40:09.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001794)  
So how will it be compensated?

**[01:40:11.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001795)  
Again, Mr. Speaker, just to give you

**[01:40:13.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001796)  
just to give you an idea,

**[01:40:15.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001797)  
I guess, based on

**[01:40:17.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001798)  
what I have already stated,

**[01:40:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001799)  
yun nga, may losses tayo naman

**[01:40:21.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001800)  
nasa 60 point something billion, but then

**[01:40:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001801)  
again, because of the tax

**[01:40:25.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001802)  
reform package po na

**[01:40:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001803)  
na-identify po natin,

**[01:40:29.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001804)  
of course, ang automobiles and even electric cars,

**[01:40:31.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001805)  
pumapasok po yan marami,

**[01:40:33.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001806)  
yung e-cigarettes, we also impose

**[01:40:35.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001807)  
taxes on that.

**[01:40:37.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001808)  
Kung sabihin po natin,

**[01:40:39.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001809)  
projected, kasi hindi naman po talaga

**[01:40:41.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001810)  
ito mandato

**[01:40:43.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001811)  
ng ating Department of Finance,

**[01:40:45.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001812)  
but the possible

**[01:40:47.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001813)  
losses, again, 10 billion. Kung i-add nyo po

**[01:40:49.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001814)  
yun doon sa 43 point 62 billion

**[01:40:51.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001815)  
pesos, may sukli pa po tayong 32

**[01:40:53.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001816)  
32 point

**[01:40:55.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001817)  
60 billion pesos, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:40:57.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001818)  
Your Honor.

**[01:40:59.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001819)  
Speaking of new tax

**[01:41:01.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001820)  
packages, yung sweetened beverage

**[01:41:03.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001821)  
tax, ano po ba ang

**[01:41:05.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001822)  
primary objective nito?

**[01:41:07.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001823)  
Public health or revenue generation?

**[01:41:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001824)  
Both, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:41:19.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001827)  
May phone patch po diyan ata.

**[01:41:21.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001828)  
May author kasi dito

**[01:41:23.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001829)  
kaya sabi

**[01:41:25.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001830)  
huwag mong babanatan.

**[01:41:31.210] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001831)  
If consumption falls substantially

**[01:41:32.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001832)  
because of

**[01:41:33.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001833)  
these additional taxes,

**[01:41:34.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001834)  
there are

**[01:41:35.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001835)  
industry leaders who are saying

**[01:41:37.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001836)  
that 27 to

**[01:41:39.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001837)  
32 percent

**[01:41:41.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001838)  
of their sales will be affected,

**[01:41:43.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001839)  
so bababa

**[01:41:45.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001840)  
din po yung

**[01:41:47.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001841)  
tax base. Ano po ba ang

**[01:41:49.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001842)  
projections dito ng DOF?

**[01:41:55.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001844)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:41:56.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001845)  
again, sa

**[01:41:57.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001846)  
pag-project po at

**[01:41:58.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001847)  
pag-assess po ng possible losses,

**[01:42:00.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001848)  
nakasama na po yan yung demand,

**[01:42:01.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001849)  
yung pagbaba din po ng demand,

**[01:42:02.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001850)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:42:04.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001851)  
Doon sa pinaproject po natin na...

**[01:42:08.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001852)  
Can you still have kahit po ballpark figure,

**[01:42:11.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001853)  
so that we will have an idea

**[01:42:13.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001854)  
how much would you generate

**[01:42:16.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001855)  
from these taxes?

**[01:42:20.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001856)  
At kung babagsak

**[01:42:21.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001857)  
ng 32% yung

**[01:42:23.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001858)  
sales, anong ibig sabihin nito?

**[01:42:27.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001859)  
Para po meron naman pong

**[01:42:29.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001860)  
idea itong kapulungan na ito.

**[01:42:30.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001861)  
Okay, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:42:31.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001862)  
based on experience,

**[01:42:32.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001863)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:42:33.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001864)  
as what our

**[01:42:34.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001865)  
historical data?

**[01:42:35.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001866)  
Is there any

**[01:42:36.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001867)  
documentary basis for this assumption?

**[01:42:39.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001868)  
Well, if there's a, the taxes, Mrs. Speaker, whenever it is imposed, tumataas po talaga, yung mga taxes po, the revenue collected from these taxes, tumataas naman po in every, as historically, periodically, we testify based on the data as we experience. Mention po, may mga years na bumaba.

**[01:42:55.030] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001869)  
But do you have any assumptions? Any assumptions? At least, statistical assumptions?

**[01:43:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001870)  
Meron pong study ang PIDC in terms of, in terms of the, yung elasticity, rate po ng mga sweetened beverages, again, ang projection po is, meron pong, again, dito po sa data natin ay may 63.26 billion pesos.

**[01:43:36.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001871)  
Base po din ito sa study ng PIDC.

**[01:43:39.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001872)  
PIDC, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:43:41.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001873)  
Can you just furnish me a copy of this elasticity study?

**[01:43:44.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001874)  
PIDS, sorry, PIDS.

**[01:43:46.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001875)  
Thank you. And, of course, kung magmamahal po itong mga produkto na ito, alcohol, hindi po ba kinonsider dito yung pagpasok ng mga cheaper smuggling, mga produkto through cheaper products through smuggling and illicit trade?

**[01:44:06.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001876)  
Na-consider po ba ito?

**[01:44:09.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001877)  
Yes, po.

**[01:44:09.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001879)  
Kasama po yan sa study, Mrs. Speaker, yung mga...

**[01:44:14.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001880)  
Do you have a study on that?

**[01:44:16.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001881)  
Sorry?

**[01:44:17.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001882)  
Do you have a study on that?

**[01:44:19.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001883)  
Do you have a study?

**[01:44:22.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001884)  
Mrs. Speaker, we understand, Mrs. Speaker, that this is really a problem, yung mga tax leakages through smuggling...

**[01:44:29.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001885)  
Kaya nga po, tinatanong po para hihingi lang po ako, Mr. Speaker, ng kopya.

**[01:44:33.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001886)  
Ng kopya ng data, Mrs. Speaker. Let me just...

**[01:44:36.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001887)  
Meron po?

**[01:44:36.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001888)  
Yeah, we will provide, Mrs. Speaker...

**[01:44:39.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001889)  
A copy of that, Mrs. Speaker, the study.

**[01:44:42.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001890)  
If higher taxes will affect the employment of our people, kasi syempre, pag nagtaas yan, sabi nga nila, kung babagsak yung sales nila ng 32%, e di magbabawas sila ng mga empleyado.

**[01:44:58.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001891)  
Ano po kaya ang plano dito?

**[01:45:00.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001892)  
ating pamahalaan.

**[01:45:02.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001893)  
Mr. Speaker, yes,

**[01:45:04.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001894)  
again, hindi lang po yung pag-project

**[01:45:06.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001895)  
itong tax reform na

**[01:45:08.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001896)  
hayaan po natin kung ano yung magiging

**[01:45:10.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001897)  
negative effects niya in terms of

**[01:45:12.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001898)  
employment. We also understand that

**[01:45:14.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001899)  
that's one of the possible

**[01:45:16.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001900)  
effects.

**[01:45:17.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001901)  
So kaya nga po may tax relief po din tayo

**[01:45:20.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001902)  
na

**[01:45:22.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001903)  
sinasagawa or na

**[01:45:23.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001904)  
anticipate na po as a response

**[01:45:25.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001905)  
to the possible.

**[01:45:27.230] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001906)  
Tax relief is not employment.

**[01:45:29.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001907)  
Yeah, but in this point,

**[01:45:34.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001908)  
again, the

**[01:45:36.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001909)  
tax relief is translated to the increase in

**[01:45:37.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001910)  
income household, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:45:40.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001911)  
So naturally, these people who are employed

**[01:45:43.490] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001912)  
in factories,

**[01:45:44.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001913)  
yeah, will lose their job, but there are also that

**[01:45:46.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001914)  
tax intensive that provided for the household

**[01:45:48.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001915)  
income earners, Mr. Speaker, which is amount

**[01:45:50.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001916)  
to 61.06

**[01:45:51.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001917)  
pesos,

**[01:45:54.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001918)  
billion pesos,

**[01:45:56.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001919)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:45:58.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001920)  
Yun pong alcohol,

**[01:45:59.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001921)  
excise taxes. Meron na pong automatic

**[01:46:02.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001922)  
annual indexation.

**[01:46:05.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001923)  
Why is another

**[01:46:06.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001924)  
increase necessary?

**[01:46:10.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001925)  
Annual na po yan, di ba?

**[01:46:12.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001926)  
Taon-taon, tumataas yan.

**[01:46:13.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001926-split-2)  
Yes, let me refer to

**[01:46:14.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001927)  
the data, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:46:27.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001928)  
Mr. Speaker, again,

**[01:46:28.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001929)  
Department of

**[01:46:29.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001930)  
Finance would only naturally comply

**[01:46:32.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001931)  
with whatever adjustments

**[01:46:33.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001932)  
in terms of the computation

**[01:46:36.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001933)  
of taxes imposed on different sectors,

**[01:46:38.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001934)  
Mrs. By the Congress. So currently,

**[01:46:40.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001935)  
Mrs. Speaker, the Department of Finance

**[01:46:42.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001936)  
would only be rely on whatever

**[01:46:44.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001937)  
are the policies or laws that are to be

**[01:46:46.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001938)  
enacted if there will be some

**[01:46:48.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001939)  
adjustments or some

**[01:46:49.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001940)  
suspension or amnesty of any form

**[01:46:52.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001941)  
of taxes that the Congress may wish

**[01:46:54.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001942)  
to implement, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[01:46:56.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001943)  
Inukwento ko po kasi sa amin, sa Kalokan,

**[01:46:58.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001944)  
ang malakas na,

**[01:46:59.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001945)  
alak doon eh, ano eh,

**[01:47:02.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001946)  
Alfonso.

**[01:47:04.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001947)  
Pagka next year po,

**[01:47:06.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001948)  
tataas po ito from 274

**[01:47:08.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001949)  
magiging mga 300 plus.

**[01:47:10.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001950)  
Pero pag in-implement nyo yung

**[01:47:12.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001951)  
itong additional taxes, magiging

**[01:47:14.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001952)  
350.

**[01:47:16.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001953)  
So, babagsak talaga ng sales.

**[01:47:18.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001954)  
Baka Hinebra na lang inumin ng mga taga-Kalokan.

**[01:47:21.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001955)  
Kaya po,

**[01:47:22.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001956)  
malaki ang effect nyo nito sa industriya.

**[01:47:24.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001957)  
Yeah, we understand, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:47:26.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001958)  
Your Honors. That's why part of the possible

**[01:47:28.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001959)  
effects,

**[01:47:29.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001960)  
doon po sa mga individual income earners

**[01:47:32.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001961)  
and even doon po sa mga maliliit

**[01:47:34.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001962)  
na mga negosyo, Mrs. Speaker,

**[01:47:36.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001963)  
meron pong kasama po dito

**[01:47:38.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001964)  
yung tax incentives po.

**[01:47:40.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001965)  
Apart from the exemption,

**[01:47:42.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001966)  
meron naman talaga pong exemption doon sa

**[01:47:44.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001967)  
maliliit pa po na puhunan

**[01:47:45.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001968)  
na mga negosyo na hindi na po

**[01:47:47.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001969)  
nag-impose ng mga taxes.

**[01:47:50.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001970)  
Apart from that, yung medyo derecho

**[01:47:52.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001971)  
or directly maapektuhan,

**[01:47:54.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001972)  
again, meron part po doon sa tax.

**[01:47:56.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001973)  
Mr. Speaker, wala pong maliit na negosyo

**[01:47:58.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001974)  
sa

**[01:47:58.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001975)  
alcohol products.

**[01:48:00.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001976)  
I'm just giving po some other information.

**[01:48:03.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001977)  
Perhaps the good gentleman

**[01:48:04.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001978)  
appreciate as far as

**[01:48:07.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001979)  
the attempt of the Department of

**[01:48:08.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001980)  
Finance

**[01:48:10.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001981)  
to not only impose taxes for

**[01:48:12.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001982)  
to generate income, but as well as to be

**[01:48:14.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001983)  
more human about consideration

**[01:48:16.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001984)  
considering that there are also some

**[01:48:18.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001985)  
other employees that may also be

**[01:48:20.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001986)  
laid out because of

**[01:48:22.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001987)  
nung pagtaas ng presyo at kailangan yung

**[01:48:24.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001988)  
mga kumpanya magbaba. That's why may incentive po

**[01:48:26.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001989)  
na sinabi po ako kanina, Mrs. Speaker,

**[01:48:28.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-001990)  
Your Honor.

**[01:48:30.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001991)  
Anyway, Mr. Speaker, I would just like to request

**[01:48:32.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001992)  
the Department of Finance

**[01:48:35.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001993)  
to present one consolidated

**[01:48:36.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001994)  
fiscal table.

**[01:48:38.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001995)  
This is very necessary for our

**[01:48:40.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001996)  
oversight.

**[01:48:42.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001997)  
Showing all proposed revenue gains

**[01:48:44.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001998)  
and revenue losses. Start with the

**[01:48:46.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-001999)  
5.26 trillion revenue target.

**[01:48:49.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002000)  
Deduct the effect of the

**[01:48:50.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002001)  
proposed 350,000

**[01:48:52.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002002)  
income tax exemption.

**[01:48:54.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002003)  
Deduct the effect of travel tax abolition.

**[01:48:57.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002004)  
Deduct VAT losses from the

**[01:48:58.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002005)  
removing the system's loss chains.

**[01:49:01.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002006)  
Add the required subsidy for

**[01:49:02.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002007)  
electric cooperatives.

**[01:49:04.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002008)  
Add projected revenues from new

**[01:49:06.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002009)  
beverage and excise taxes.

**[01:49:08.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002010)  
Deduct revenue losses caused by

**[01:49:10.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002011)  
reduced sales, investment, employment

**[01:49:12.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002012)  
and consumption.

**[01:49:14.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002013)  
And what is the final net revenue

**[01:49:16.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002014)  
figure? What is the

**[01:49:17.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002015)  
resulting deficit? What is the

**[01:49:20.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002016)  
resulting borrowing requirement?

**[01:49:24.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002017)  
Mahalaga po

**[01:49:24.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002018)  
na malaman yan ang Kongreso.

**[01:49:27.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002019)  
I'm not asking it today.

**[01:49:28.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002020)  
Maybe in a few weeks

**[01:49:30.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002021)  
time, we can have it.

**[01:49:33.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002022)  
Well, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:49:35.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002023)  
just to give you a straight answer, po, with all those

**[01:49:36.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002024)  
losses, Mr. Speaker, I think it's also

**[01:49:38.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002025)  
understandable that in order

**[01:49:41.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002026)  
that we can compensate and make up

**[01:49:42.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002027)  
all those losses, we just have to make

**[01:49:44.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002028)  
sure that the BIR and the BOC would

**[01:49:46.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002029)  
have to collect efficiently

**[01:49:48.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002030)  
with the duties, custom duties,

**[01:49:50.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002031)  
taxes, the

**[01:49:52.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002032)  
revenue so that we can actually generate more

**[01:49:54.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002033)  
revenue and to be more efficient about

**[01:49:56.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002034)  
prudent fiscal management, Mr.

**[01:49:58.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002035)  
Speaker. Kasi unang

**[01:50:00.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002036)  
pag tinanong po natin paano po yung

**[01:50:02.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002037)  
losses, I think the direct question, answer

**[01:50:04.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002038)  
to that is dapat po maging efficient

**[01:50:06.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002039)  
ang Bureau of Customs at saka BIR.

**[01:50:08.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002040)  
And that's why, kung papasinin nyo po,

**[01:50:10.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002041)  
kung mamarapatin po ng ating

**[01:50:12.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002042)  
good congressman galing po, Kalocan,

**[01:50:14.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002043)  
ay baka masuportahan nyo po ang ating

**[01:50:16.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002044)  
request para dagdagan po

**[01:50:18.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002045)  
yung pondo ng BOC at the BIR.

**[01:50:21.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002046)  
Kasi medyo malakas po

**[01:50:23.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002047)  
ang tapyas po sa kanilang

**[01:50:24.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002048)  
budget, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:50:25.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002048-split-2)  
Iyan po ang susunod kong tanong.

**[01:50:27.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002049)  
Of the 7.2,

**[01:50:28.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002050)  
7.2 trillion, 2027 budget,

**[01:50:31.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002051)  
how much is actually

**[01:50:32.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002052)  
free fiscal

**[01:50:35.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002053)  
space for new programs?

**[01:50:39.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002054)  
Sorry, pakiulit po yung tanong. Medyo...

**[01:50:42.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002055)  
Dumpo sa 7.2 trillion, ano po ba

**[01:50:44.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002056)  
yung bagong,

**[01:50:47.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002057)  
ano pa po yung libreng

**[01:50:48.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002058)  
fiscal space para sa

**[01:50:50.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002059)  
mga new programs?

**[01:50:54.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002060)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:50:54.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002061)  
DBM po yung nag

**[01:50:55.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002062)  
nag-de-decide po yan.

**[01:50:58.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002063)  
Sila po yung may pangunahing mandato

**[01:51:00.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002064)  
para po dito, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:51:01.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002065)  
as to the fiscal space.

**[01:51:03.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002066)  
But the DOF

**[01:51:05.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002067)  
certainly knows that.

**[01:51:07.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002067-split-2)  
Of course.

**[01:51:08.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002068)  
Hindi po. Wala pong datos

**[01:51:10.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002069)  
ang DOF para po

**[01:51:11.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002070)  
ma-determine po yung fiscal space,

**[01:51:14.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002071)  
Mr. Speaker, as to the allocation of budget

**[01:51:16.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002072)  
per agency, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:51:18.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002073)  
Including... Kasi po, yung

**[01:51:20.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002074)  
fiscal space will be determined

**[01:51:22.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002075)  
by the

**[01:51:23.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002076)  
target revenue and the borrowings.

**[01:51:26.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002077)  
And the target revenue and the

**[01:51:28.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002078)  
borrowings

**[01:51:29.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002079)  
are concerns of the Department

**[01:51:32.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002080)  
of Finance. Tama po ba?

**[01:51:33.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002081)  
Yes, that is correct po, Mr. Speaker. But as to

**[01:51:36.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002082)  
putting parameters on how to properly

**[01:51:38.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002083)  
allocate this funding

**[01:51:40.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002084)  
based on the programs and

**[01:51:42.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002085)  
priorities of each agencies,

**[01:51:44.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002086)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honors, it is the Department

**[01:51:46.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002087)  
of Budget and Management that has

**[01:51:48.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002088)  
that primary mandate

**[01:51:50.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002089)  
to do it, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:51:52.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002090)  
How about the borrowings?

**[01:51:55.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002091)  
Is it correct that government

**[01:51:56.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002092)  
plans to borrow

**[01:51:58.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002093)  
3.304 trillion for

**[01:52:00.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002094)  
2027?

**[01:52:01.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002094-split-2)  
It is, of course,

**[01:52:02.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002095)  
the Department of Finance, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:52:04.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002096)  
Ang pangunahin pong

**[01:52:06.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002097)  
mandato ang Department

**[01:52:08.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002098)  
of Finance, Mr. Speaker. Kung sinap kong...

**[01:52:10.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002099)  
Yes, borrowing po, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:52:11.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002100)  
3.304

**[01:52:15.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002101)  
trillion po ba

**[01:52:16.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002102)  
ang planong

**[01:52:17.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002103)  
tutangin

**[01:52:19.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002104)  
for 2027?

**[01:52:23.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002105)  
Yeah. Mr. Speaker,

**[01:52:24.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002106)  
ang tinatanong po atin ng ating

**[01:52:26.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002107)  
butihing interpolators, yung gross borrowing po, no?

**[01:52:28.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002108)  
Kasi ang net borrowing...

**[01:52:29.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002108-split-2)  
For next year.

**[01:52:30.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002109)  
For next year. Ah, for next year.

**[01:52:32.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002110)  
Tama po. Ang net borrowing po is

**[01:52:34.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002111)  
only 1.7 trillion pesos,

**[01:52:36.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002112)  
Mr. Speaker, for next year.

**[01:52:42.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002113)  
Borrowings.

**[01:52:42.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002114)  
The total borrowings for next year,

**[01:52:44.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002115)  
mukhang mali.

**[01:52:50.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002116)  
Okay. Mr. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[01:52:52.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002117)  
para po magkapareho po yung gaita natin,

**[01:52:54.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002118)  
masensya na po. Tama po yung

**[01:52:56.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002119)  
initial figure na

**[01:52:58.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002120)  
na-mention po ng ating

**[01:53:00.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002121)  
butihing interpolator.

**[01:53:02.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002122)  
Ang government borrowing po

**[01:53:04.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002123)  
is amounting to 3.30

**[01:53:06.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002124)  
trillion in 2027,

**[01:53:09.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002125)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[01:53:10.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002126)  
3.3.

**[01:53:11.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002127)  
3.3.

**[01:53:13.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002128)  
Sorry, 3.30 trillion

**[01:53:15.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002129)  
in 2027,

**[01:53:17.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002130)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:53:21.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002131)  
Tama po yung

**[01:53:22.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002132)  
datos po ng atin.

**[01:53:23.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002133)  
3 trillion 304

**[01:53:25.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002134)  
Tama po yun, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:53:27.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002135)  
Is it correct that

**[01:53:28.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002136)  
2.389 trillion will be the

**[01:53:30.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002137)  
domestic borrowing?

**[01:53:32.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002138)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:53:33.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002139)  
2.[unclear]?

**[01:53:37.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002140)  
2 trillion.

**[01:53:39.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002141)  
389 [unclear].

**[01:53:40.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002141-split-2)  
Yeah, that's correct, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:53:41.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002142)  
Will be the domestic borrowing.

**[01:53:42.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002143)  
Yeah, that's correct, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:53:44.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002144)  
And about 915 billion

**[01:53:46.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002145)  
will be external borrowing.

**[01:53:49.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002146)  
Yes, po, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:53:51.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002147)  
And about

**[01:53:52.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002148)  
1.695 trillion

**[01:53:55.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002149)  
will finance

**[01:53:56.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002150)  
the fiscal

**[01:53:58.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002151)  
deficit.

**[01:53:59.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002151-split-2)  
Yes, po.

**[01:54:01.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002152)  
Therefore, for every

**[01:54:02.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002153)  
100 borrowed, roughly

**[01:54:04.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002154)  
48 goes to

**[01:54:06.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002155)  
principal amortization

**[01:54:08.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002156)  
and refinancing. Tama po?

**[01:54:11.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002157)  
Yes, tama po yun, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:54:13.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002158)  
So, almost

**[01:54:14.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002159)  
half of the new borrowing is connected

**[01:54:16.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002160)  
to paying or refinancing

**[01:54:18.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002161)  
previous debt.

**[01:54:20.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002162)  
Yes, that's correct, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:54:25.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002163)  
Ang tanong,

**[01:54:26.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002164)  
nangungutang ba tayo para i-refinance na lang

**[01:54:28.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002165)  
yung mga borrowings natin?

**[01:54:31.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002166)  
Yes, po.

**[01:54:32.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002167)  
Yes, po, Mr. Speaker. Kasi obligation

**[01:54:34.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002168)  
din po natin yun.

**[01:54:36.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002169)  
Again, gusto lang po natin.

**[01:54:38.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002170)  
At what point

**[01:54:40.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002171)  
does this become a serious

**[01:54:42.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002172)  
debt rollover problem?

**[01:54:46.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002173)  
What point?

**[01:54:48.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002174)  
Mr. Speaker, again, let's

**[01:54:50.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002175)  
also go back to the

**[01:54:52.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002176)  
70%.

**[01:54:54.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002177)  
Yun po talaga

**[01:54:57.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002178)  
yung magiging baseline.

**[01:54:58.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002179)  
Pag nangungutang na tayo ng

**[01:55:00.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002180)  
70%,

**[01:55:02.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002181)  
dun palang may problema.

**[01:55:05.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002182)  
Ngayon, wala pang problema?

**[01:55:07.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002183)  
Yes, po. Kasi base po dun sa

**[01:55:09.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002184)  
ano natin, nasa

**[01:55:11.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002185)  
56 point something

**[01:55:13.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002186)  
percent lang po

**[01:55:14.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002187)  
ang ating

**[01:55:16.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002188)  
deficit

**[01:55:18.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002189)  
to GDP

**[01:55:20.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002190)  
as compared po dun sa 70.

**[01:55:22.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002191)  
In fact, Mr. Speaker, again, na-explain ko po

**[01:55:25.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002192)  
kanina, umamarapatin po

**[01:55:27.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002193)  
ng ating kagalanggalang na

**[01:55:28.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002194)  
representante, aking kaibigan,

**[01:55:30.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002195)  
may mga bansa po na mas malaki po.

**[01:55:33.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002196)  
In fact, yung kanilang

**[01:55:34.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002197)  
rating,

**[01:55:36.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002198)  
base po doon sa 70%

**[01:55:39.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002199)  
na baseline po ng

**[01:55:40.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002200)  
International Monetary

**[01:55:43.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002201)  
Board, Mr. Speaker.

**[01:55:45.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002202)  
Sa aking simpleng pananaw po,

**[01:55:47.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002203)  
Mr. Speaker, kaya po ako

**[01:55:49.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002204)  
nangungutang para

**[01:55:50.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002205)  
ikanga umunlad yung aking buhay.

**[01:55:54.020] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002206)  
With the indulgence of

**[01:55:55.040] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002207)  
Honorable Erice, your time

**[01:55:57.020] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002208)  
expired. Please wind up.

**[01:55:58.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002209)  
Can DOF identify

**[01:56:00.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002210)  
the economic return generated by

**[01:56:02.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002211)  
every major borrowing funded

**[01:56:04.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002212)  
program?

**[01:56:07.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002213)  
Can we ask for another?

**[01:56:10.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002214)  
Pardon me, Mr. Speaker. Can you, medyo po maano iyong...

**[01:56:14.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002215)  
Can the Department of Finance identify

**[01:56:16.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002216)  
the economic return generated

**[01:56:18.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002217)  
by every major borrowing

**[01:56:20.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002218)  
funded program?

**[01:56:24.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002219)  
If debt finances a productive

**[01:56:26.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002220)  
asset, we have something to show.

**[01:56:28.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002221)  
So, for the debt...

**[01:56:35.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002222)  
Yeah, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:56:37.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002223)  
again, how to

**[01:56:39.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002224)  
specifically identify

**[01:56:40.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002225)  
yung sinasabi niyo po na return sa ating

**[01:56:42.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002226)  
gobyerno, it should

**[01:56:44.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002227)  
also be

**[01:56:45.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002228)  
tie up with the

**[01:56:48.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002229)  
spending of each agencies,

**[01:56:50.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002230)  
Mr. Speaker, each department. Kasi sila

**[01:56:52.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002231)  
po yung nagdi-determine kung ano po

**[01:56:54.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002232)  
yung nagiging return

**[01:56:55.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002233)  
ng beneficio sa ating

**[01:56:58.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002234)  
mga mamamayan,

**[01:57:00.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002235)  
doon po sa mga pondo

**[01:57:01.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002236)  
na pinaggagamitan po nila.

**[01:57:05.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002237)  
So, again,

**[01:57:06.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002238)  
ang Department of Finance, party lang po

**[01:57:08.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002239)  
yan doon sa mga fiscal managers,

**[01:57:10.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002240)  
but as to the specific returns

**[01:57:12.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002241)  
of programs,

**[01:57:15.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002242)  
services, capital

**[01:57:16.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002243)  
investments that each

**[01:57:18.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002244)  
individual agencies

**[01:57:20.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002245)  
implement, ay dapat po

**[01:57:22.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002246)  
ang mismong ahensya

**[01:57:24.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002247)  
ang dapat nag-identify kung anong mga returns

**[01:57:26.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002248)  
sa kanila at anong naging,

**[01:57:28.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002249)  
sukli na servisyo sa ating

**[01:57:30.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002250)  
mga mamamayan, Mr. Speaker,

**[01:57:32.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002251)  
Your Honor.

**[01:57:32.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002252)  
For my last question,

**[01:57:35.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002253)  
is it correct that the administration

**[01:57:36.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002254)  
inherited approximately

**[01:57:38.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002255)  
12.79 trillion

**[01:57:40.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002256)  
in outstanding national government

**[01:57:43.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002257)  
debt? Is the official

**[01:57:44.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002258)  
projection approximately

**[01:57:46.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002259)  
21.48

**[01:57:50.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002260)  
trillion by end of

**[01:57:52.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002261)  
from 12.79 trillion

**[01:57:54.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002262)  
yung minana

**[01:57:55.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002263)  
by end of 20,

**[01:57:58.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002264)  
27 ay magkakaroon

**[01:58:00.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002265)  
na tayo ng utang na

**[01:58:01.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002266)  
21.48 trillion.

**[01:58:04.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002267)  
Therefore, the projected increase

**[01:58:06.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002268)  
of the debt

**[01:58:09.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002269)  
under the Marcos

**[01:58:10.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002270)  
administration by the end of

**[01:58:12.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002271)  
2027 alone would be

**[01:58:14.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002272)  
8.69 trillion.

**[01:58:17.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002273)  
Tama po, Mr. Speaker, but let

**[01:58:18.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002274)  
also emphasize that this is an accumulated

**[01:58:20.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002275)  
over the years debt,

**[01:58:22.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002276)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[01:58:25.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002277)  
Still many questions,

**[01:58:26.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002278)  
but we have to respect the

**[01:58:28.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002279)  
30-minute rule.

**[01:58:30.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-002280)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[01:58:31.560] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002281)  
Thank you, Honorable Irice.

**[01:58:33.680] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002282)  
Majority Leader.

**[01:58:44.000] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002283)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[01:58:45.960] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002284)  
next to interpellate the sponsor,

**[01:58:47.820] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002285)  
I move to recognize

**[01:58:52.820] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002286)  
Representative

**[01:58:54.880] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002287)  
Sergio Dagooc of APEC

**[01:58:56.540] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002288)  
Party List.

**[01:58:57.220] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002289)  
The Honorable

**[01:58:57.960] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002290)  
Sergio Dagooc is

**[01:59:01.180] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002291)  
please

**[01:59:01.900] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002292)  
Mr. Speaker, I move

**[01:59:04.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002293)  
to withdraw my

**[01:59:05.340] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002294)  
I move to suspend session.

**[01:59:08.700] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-002295)  
Session is suspended.

**[02:00:15.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002315)  
Session resumed.

**[02:00:21.550] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002316)  
Mr. Speaker, I move to the next to interpellate the sponsor, I move to recognize Representative Sarah Jane Elago.

**[02:00:32.605] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002317)  
The [unclear].

**[02:00:32.977] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-002317-split-2)  
Gabriela Women's Party List. Thank you.

**[02:00:34.428] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002317-split-3)  
The gentle lady from Gabriela Women's Party List, Representative Sarah Jane Elago, is recognized. Ma'am, you have the floor.

**[02:00:42.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002318)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:00:44.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002319)  
Sa ilalim ng Republic Act No. 12316, binigyan ang Pangulo ng Kapangyarihang magsuspinde o magbawas ng excise tax sa mga produktong petrolyo

**[02:00:54.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002320)  
kapag ang average ng Dubai crude oil price ay umabot o lumagpas na sa 80.

**[02:01:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002321)  
USD kada barile sa loob ng isang buwan. Ang rekomendasyon ay manggagaling mula sa DBCC in coordination sa DOE.

**[02:01:09.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002322)  
Nagbigay na rin ang DOE ng certification na umabot, lumagpas na dito sa trigger na 80 USD na threshold sa presyo ngayon na umabot na sa 99.41 USD ang Dubai crude oil price.

**[02:01:26.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002323)  
Ang DOF ay bahagi ng DBCC.

**[02:01:30.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002324)  
At nabalitaan po natin na mayroong bagong anunsyo ng suspensyon ng excise tax lamang sa LPG at kerosene ang rekomendasyon ng DBCC. Hanggang kailan po ang suspensyon na ito?

**[02:01:49.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002325)  
Mr. Speaker, maximum of tatlong buwan pero pwede po ito nari-renew. Depende din po ito sa kalagayan sa merkado ng petrolyo, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:02:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002326)  
Mr. Speaker, nitong Abril din, nagkaroon ng parehong suspensyon sa LPG lamang at kerosene.

**[02:02:10.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002327)  
At sangayon sa batas, dapat within 15 days, nung mula doon sa suspensyon na iyon noong April, nakapagbigay ng ulat ang DBCC sa House of Representatives at sa Senado ng report tungkol sa una,

**[02:02:27.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002328)  
yung factual basis at policy goals.

**[02:02:30.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002329)  
Para doon sa suspensyon at reduction ng excise tax.

**[02:02:34.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002330)  
Pangalawa, ano ba yung buong bilang ng estimated foregone revenues, kasama na yung affected social benefits para sa iba't ibang household deciles.

**[02:02:45.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002331)  
Kabilang din, ginoong speakers sa dapat nilang maisumite, ano ba yung expected impact sa inflation at fuel prices, cost-benefit analysis,

**[02:02:55.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002332)  
assessment ng possible market distortions, leakages,

**[02:03:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002333)  
unintended consequences na magmumula doon sa suspensyon at reduction ng excise taxes.

**[02:03:07.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002334)  
Ang ulat ba na ito ay nasumitin na sa House of Representatives at sa Senado?

**[02:03:13.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002335)  
Yes, meron na pong report na sinumiti ang Department of Finance patungkol po doon sa lahat na concerns na nilatag po ng ating kagalang-galang na interpellator.

**[02:03:23.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002336)  
Maari ba tayong makakuha ng kopya ngayon, ginoong speaker?

**[02:03:27.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002337)  
Mainam po yan.

**[02:03:30.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002338)  
Yes, we will furnish po, Mr. Speaker, the study, the assessment report, Mr. Speaker, that we have, that the Department of Finance has gathered.

**[02:03:39.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002339)  
Pero ito po, again, ito pong reaction ng ating bansa dito sa hostility na gaganap po sa gitnang silangan na naapektuhan po yung krudo, yung presyo ng krudo.

**[02:03:54.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002340)  
Hindi lang po ang Department of Finance ang nag-a-assess po nito.

**[02:03:58.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002341)  
Ito po ang interagency.

**[02:04:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002342)  
Mr. Speaker, in fact, meron po tayong executive order po na diniklara ng ating presidente.

**[02:04:10.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002343)  
Kung yun po yung katanungan ng ating kagalang-galang na interpreter tungkol po sa energy crisis na na-experience po natin sa ngayon, Mr. Speaker, your honor.

**[02:04:21.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002344)  
Mr. Speaker, magkano ba yung tinataya natin na pagbaba ng presyo ng LPG at kerosene sa ngayon?

**[02:04:28.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002345)  
Dahil sa ginawang suspensyon?

**[02:04:30.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002346)  
Itong nakaraang araw sa excise taxes sa LPG at kerosene.

**[02:04:34.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002347)  
Magkano yung tinatayang pagbaba ng presyo?

**[02:04:40.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002348)  
Wait lang po, Mr. Speaker, your honor.

**[02:04:43.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002349)  
Pag-re-refer po tayo sa data, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:04:46.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002350)  
Mahalaga ito, ginoong speaker, kasi sa bawat aksyon, yung inaasahan naman ng ating mga kababayan, yung madama at malaman nil agad yung pagbaba ng presyo ng LPG at kerosene.

**[02:04:57.150] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002351)  
para makita rin natin

**[02:05:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002352)  
Kung ano ba yung pagtugon nito doon sa tunay ng mga panawagan at pangangailangan ngayon ng ating mga kababayan?

**[02:05:09.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002353)  
Mr. Speaker, doon po sa, dalawa po kasi yan, Mr. Speaker, di ba, sa suspensyon ng excise tax.

**[02:05:16.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002354)  
Meron pong 5 pesos per liter sa kerosene.

**[02:05:21.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002355)  
And then 37 per cylinder para po sa ating liquefied petroleum gas or LPG.

**[02:05:30.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002356)  
Mr. Speaker, your honor.

**[02:05:31.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002357)  
Sa kerosene, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:05:33.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002358)  
5 pesos.

**[02:05:34.430] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002358-split-2)  
5 pesos per liter.

**[02:05:36.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002359)  
Per liter.

**[02:05:37.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002360)  
And then sa LPG ay?

**[02:05:38.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002361)  
37 per cylinder.

**[02:05:40.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002362)  
Okay, 37.

**[02:05:42.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002363)  
Ngayon naman, ginawang speaker, kung gagamitin din natin ang parehong kapangyarihan ng pagsususpinde o pagbabawas ng excise tax, sa diesel naman at sa gasoline,

**[02:05:54.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002364)  
magkano kaya yung tinataya na maaaring pagbaba ng presyo kada litro?

**[02:06:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002365)  
6 pesos po para po sa diesel per liter, 10 pesos po per liter sa gasolina.

**[02:06:13.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002366)  
Ngayon, ginawang speaker, bakit po ba hindi nakonsidera yung pagsasama ng diesel at gasoline sa sinuspinde at binabaan sa excise tax bilang pagtugon natin sa matinding krisis na ito?

**[02:06:28.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002367)  
Hindi pa lahat.

**[02:06:30.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002368)  
Ginawang speaker na lubos na apektado nitong nakaraang buwan sa pagtaas ng presyo ng langis ay nakabangon, lalong-lalo na sa sektor ng transportasyon, sa agrikultura, sa mga magsasaka na ginagamit ang diesel at gasolina para sa kanilang makinarya at traktor,

**[02:06:47.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002369)  
sa mga manginisda na nakadepende ang kanilang paglalaot sa presyo din ng krudo, hindi pa yan lahat na bibigyan ng tulong, hindi pa po yan lahat ay naabot ng ayuda.

**[02:07:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002370)  
Kulang na kulang din yung mga fuel subsidies para maabot ang lahat ng ito.

**[02:07:04.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002371)  
Hindi pa sila nakakabangon at hindi pa po makatugon sa tindi ng krisis ngayon, lalo na ngayong buwan, ginawang speaker, ginawang sponsor.

**[02:07:14.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002372)  
Ngayong Setiembre pa lang, pumarap tayo sa tatlong magkakasunod na malalaking oil price hike.

**[02:07:20.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002373)  
At sa katunayan, sa diesel, umabot na po ng nasa 104 pesos kada litro, sa gasolina naman umabot na ng nasa 87 pesos kada litro.

**[02:07:29.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002374)  
Hindi biro ang pagtataas na ito ng presyo.

**[02:07:33.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002375)  
Kaya, bakit ba muli na hindi na naman po sinama yung konsiderasyon ng diesel at gasolina sa pagsususpinde at pagpapababa ng excise taxes sa mga nasabing petroleum products?

**[02:07:46.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002376)  
Mrs. Speaker, ang targeted po, ang response po ng energy crisis sa ngayon, dapat din po targeted.

**[02:07:53.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002377)  
Ibig sabihin, kung tayo po yung magsususpende ng mga taxes, dapat calibrated po ito.

**[02:07:58.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002378)  
At talagang identified po yung dapat natin isuspende.

**[02:08:03.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002379)  
Kasi maapektuhan din po ito ng collection.

**[02:08:05.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002380)  
Now, ito pong sinasasabi po na, na-mention po ng ating kagalang-galang,

**[02:08:11.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002381)  
siyempre kailangan din po natin targeted yung magiging beneficiaries natin ng pagbibigay po tulong,

**[02:08:18.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002382)  
according, naaayon po doon sa uplift program.

**[02:08:21.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002383)  
Na, again, ito po ay dulot ng pagdideklara ng ating presidente,

**[02:08:27.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002384)  
na under energy crisis tayo.

**[02:08:29.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002385)  
So, may tulong po sa ating mga transportation sector.

**[02:08:33.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002386)  
Nandiyan po yung mga tupere, yung mga, pati na rin po yung mga studyante, no,

**[02:08:38.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002387)  
na pupunta sa kanilang mga skwela.

**[02:08:40.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002388)  
May mga subsidies po na binibigay.

**[02:08:43.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002389)  
Fisher folks na mentioned po.

**[02:08:45.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002390)  
So, ibig sabihin, dapat po, meron din po tayong pagpunan na revenue,

**[02:08:50.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002391)  
na para po masustentuhan itong pangangailangan na assistance sa mga sektor na ito.

**[02:08:56.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002392)  
In fact, hindi lang.

**[02:08:57.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002393)  
So, transportation sector ang naapektuan po dito.

**[02:09:01.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002394)  
Even, na-mention nga din po ng ating kagalanggalang na interpolator.

**[02:09:05.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002395)  
Even ating mga farmers, no, pati na rin po ang ating mga fisher folks.

**[02:09:10.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002396)  
And even those, ano, also students, no, kasi alam ko po, isa din po yan sa tinitingnan,

**[02:09:17.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002397)  
kung paano po natin mabigyan ng assistance yung mga studyante, mga kabataan,

**[02:09:22.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002398)  
na nahihirapan pumunta sa sarili ka ng skwelahan dahil tumataas nga lang po yung gasoline.

**[02:09:27.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002399)  
So, naiintindihan po natin ang concern ng ating kagalanggalang na interpolator.

**[02:09:33.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002400)  
Kaya nga po, ang sa gobyerno, dapat po calibrated yung ating paggawa ng solusyon

**[02:09:39.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002401)  
at hindi po talaga siya universally na tatanggalan po natin ng pagpagkukunan ng revenue

**[02:09:48.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002402)  
na ang magiging problema kung ito pong gagawin natin ay wala na po tayong possible na mapagkunan

**[02:09:55.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002403)  
para immediately as a response, emergency response, assistance, emergency assistance

**[02:10:05.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002404)  
sa ating mga mamamayan po, no, sa mga sektor po na nabanggit. Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:10:12.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002405)  
Mr. Speaker, ginaong sponsor, sabi niyo meron namang targeted subsidies.

**[02:10:16.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002406)  
Maari ba nating malaman kung ano-ano yung mga targeted subsidies na yan,

**[02:10:22.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002407)  
gaano ba karami yung mga naabot,

**[02:10:25.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002408)  
magkano ba yung naibigay sa kanila, kailangan po natin ng buong ulat.

**[02:10:29.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002409)  
Kasi nababahala po tayo at tingin po natin, okay lang,

**[02:10:33.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002410)  
huwag na natin isama yung diesel at gasoline kahit ang taas-taas na ng presyo

**[02:10:39.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002411)  
dahil meron namang ayuda, meron namang mga subsidiya.

**[02:10:44.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002412)  
Ngunit, malimbawa na lang po at nais ko po,

**[02:10:47.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002413)  
ma-present po niyo sana yung buong mga figures para makita natin yung buong larawan ng sitwasyon.

**[02:10:54.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002414)  
Pero sa bahagi pa lang po ng mga manging isda,

**[02:10:57.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002415)  
no, ilan lang po yung nabigyan ng ayuda na nasa 2,000 pesos.

**[02:11:04.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002416)  
At sa katunayan, hindi pa po lahat ng mga lugar na nangangailangan ay naaabot niyan.

**[02:11:09.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002417)  
Hindi pa nga nagsimula yung mismong distribution ng mga fuel subsidies sa kanila.

**[02:11:15.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002418)  
Sa tingin niyo po ba makatarungan na ganito yung nangyayari?

**[02:11:18.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002419)  
Na habang ang mga pinakamahihirap po natin ang mga sektor,

**[02:11:23.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002420)  
hindi pa naaabot ng mga tulong,

**[02:11:25.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002421)  
eh hindi natin ginagamit yung kapangyarihan na nga na naigawad.

**[02:11:29.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002422)  
Emergency power, ibig sabihin, hindi po ito yung magpapatumpik-tumpik tayo.

**[02:11:35.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002423)  
Binigay ito sa atin para gamitin ng mabilis, no, gamitin sa panahon ng emergency.

**[02:11:41.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002424)  
Extraordinaryo po itong kapangyarihan, no, pero para sa panahon na todo po ang epekto sa ating mga pinakamaliliit na mga kababayan.

**[02:11:50.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002425)  
Hindi na nga lang po pinakamahihirap.

**[02:11:53.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002426)  
Maski yung middle class natin, struggling middle class, ay nahihirapan na po sa taas ng presyo ng langis.

**[02:12:01.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002427)  
Na alam po ng ating ginuong sponsor na nakaka-apekto rin sa presyo ng pagkain,

**[02:12:06.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002428)  
sa presyo ng pamasahe, sa kanilang kabuhayan, sa mga maliliit na negosyo.

**[02:12:12.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002429)  
Kaya po doon po tayo nag-aalala na bakit ba nandyan na yung emergency powers, hindi pa po natin gamitin.

**[02:12:21.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002430)  
Nabanggit nyo din po, no, kasi kailangan,

**[02:12:23.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002431)  
ng pamahalaan na patuloy na mang-olekta, no, para may pagkukunan din ng revenues, no, para naman dito sa mga sinasabi nating subsidies.

**[02:12:33.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002432)  
Magkano po ba yung nakolekta sa mas mataas na koleksyon ng VAT?

**[02:12:42.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002433)  
Simula po noong tumaas ang presyo ng langis sa buwan ng Marso, mula po Marso hanggang ngayon.

**[02:12:48.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002434)  
Kasi Mr. Speaker, hindi pa po bumabalik sa...

**[02:12:53.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002435)  
Bago po itong US-Israel war on Iran, nasa 55 pesos lang po yung presyo halimbawa ng diesel,

**[02:13:03.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002436)  
pero hindi naman po yan bumaba ng ganyang parehong level from March to this month.

**[02:13:10.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002437)  
Magkano na po yung total VAT collection from petroleum products?

**[02:13:14.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002438)  
At kung maaari natin mahingi yung breakdown din from diesel, gasoline, at sa iba pang mga petroleum products.

**[02:13:21.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002439)  
Yes.

**[02:13:23.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002440)  
Mag-respond kasi rhetorical question po yung naging tanong sa atin ng kagalang-galang na interpellator.

**[02:13:31.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002441)  
Kinais ko lang pong sabihin na kaya nga po ongoing yung assessment sa uplift program interagency

**[02:13:36.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002442)  
kasi tinukuha po yung mga datos at magkano po at ilan yung mga sektor na nabibigyan na po ng subsidiya.

**[02:13:42.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002443)  
Pero ang pinakapangunahing mandato po ng Department of Finance ay maghanap ng revenue kung paano po gastusan.

**[02:13:52.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002444)  
itong mga pangangailangan ng ating mga mamamayan.

**[02:13:55.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002445)  
Pagdating naman po sa identification kung magkano, ilan, yung dapat na magiging benepisyo,

**[02:14:00.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002446)  
doon po nakasalalay sa pangunahing departamento kung saan sila po yung merong pangunahing mandato para magbigay ng mga ayuda.

**[02:14:10.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002447)  
Halimbawa, for DSWD, kanilang datos po manggagaling.

**[02:14:13.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002448)  
So sila po talaga yung nagre-report sa interagency po para po matugunan kung ano pa yung dapat nilang pangangailangan

**[02:14:22.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002449)  
at maibigay sa ating mga kababayan.

**[02:14:24.350] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002450)  
Pero as to the pricing po ng petroleum, alam na po po ng ating kagalanggalang na interpreter,

**[02:14:30.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002451)  
ay hindi po ito nadidiktahan, may sarili pong buhay ang international petroleum market.

**[02:14:38.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002452)  
So sa ngayon po, ang ating datos...

**[02:14:42.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002453)  
...

**[02:14:43.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002454)  
So sa ngayon po, dahil nga from March to June...

**[02:15:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002455)  
Itong taon na po ito, meron pong collection from, meron pong additional VAT collection na 21 billion pesos starting March to June sa fuel po ito, diesel at saka gasoline.

**[02:15:26.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002456)  
At meron po tayong, from total po, from starting March up to September 7, 2026, meron pong 32.6 VAT collection po.

**[02:15:38.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002457)  
Projected po. Itong 32.6 na billion pesos na additional VAT collection po dito po sa mga pangunahing commodities na na-mention po ng ating kagalang-galang na interpeler ito.

**[02:15:52.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002458)  
Maraming salamat, Kinoong Speaker. Hindi po ba kumita pa po?

**[02:15:55.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002459)  
Ang pamahalaan mula doon sa mas mataas na VAT collection?

**[02:16:00.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002460)  
Well, yun nga po, at the face value, at the face value, at the face value, tama po pero gumagastos din po kasi kailangan po natin magkaroon kung saan yung pan, saan po natin kukunin itong mga subsidiya.

**[02:16:12.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002461)  
So dahil tumataas po talaga yung presyo, dapat po, mas maganda rin po na meron tong pagkukunan ng ating pagbibigay na subsidiya.

**[02:16:19.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002462)  
Ito pong 30, ito pong projected na 33.6 billion pesos.

**[02:16:25.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002463)  
Automatic po ito, yung paggagastusan po ng mga departamento doon po sa subsidiya binibigay po sa sektor.

**[02:16:34.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002464)  
Hindi lang po, again, hindi lang po transportation sector, pati na rin po ang mga fisher folks, pati na rin po sa agrikultura, ang ating mga farmers.

**[02:16:42.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002465)  
So talagang naka-identified po dapat yung paglalaanan itong nakukuhan po natin karagdagang VAT collection mula po sa mga petrolyong produkto na na-mention po ng ating kagalang-galang na interpeler.

**[02:16:55.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002466)  
Ang suliran rin kasi dito, Mr. Speaker, buti sana kung lahat po ng apektado ay nabibigyan.

**[02:17:02.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002467)  
Buti po sana po.

**[02:17:04.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002467-split-2)  
We empathize.

**[02:17:05.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002467-split-3)  
Buong nawawala nilang kita sa isang araw ay napupunan.

**[02:17:11.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002468)  
Ang problema po natin, hindi naman po ganun yung sitwasyon.

**[02:17:15.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002469)  
Halimbawa, sa mga nabisita po natin na mga manging isda, magpasa hanggang ngayon po, wala pang natatanggap na fuel subsidy.

**[02:17:23.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002470)  
At yung DA naman po, nung nagsabi sila sa atin, at hindi nga lang pasensya, pero talagang natulak na natin sila dito sa Kongreso na dapat hindi magpatumpik-tumpik.

**[02:17:35.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002471)  
Kasi bawat araw na nawawala, nawawala ng kita, nababawasan ng kita yung ating mga magsasakat, mga manging isda.

**[02:17:43.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002472)  
Yan po ay katumbas ng pagkain nila sa pagkainan.

**[02:17:48.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002473)  
Hindi po pareho yung epekto sa kanila sa epekto sa middle

**[02:17:53.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002474)  
class at sa mas may marangya at mas pasaganang buhay dito sa ating bansa.

**[02:18:01.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002475)  
Sa katunayan po, sa mga manging isda, sila ay kumukonsumo ng 10 litro ng diesel kada fishing trip.

**[02:18:08.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002476)  
Ang balita nga po sa atin, maraming nakikiangkas o yung nakikisakay na lang sa bangka ng iba para lang po mas mapalaki nila yung kita.

**[02:18:18.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002477)  
Dati, sila daw po ay kumikita ng nasa 800 to 1,000 pesos per day.

**[02:18:23.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002478)  
Pero nung naglagpas na po sa 100 pesos ang presyo ng crudo, nasa 200 to 300 pesos na lang po yung kanilang kinikita.

**[02:18:32.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002479)  
So ganito po katindi yung impact dun sa ating mga pinakamaliliit na sektor.

**[02:18:39.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002480)  
Ganon din po sa mga magsasaka.

**[02:18:41.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002481)  
Marami pong nag-iisip na magparenta ng lupa sa mga proyektong halimbawa ng solar na hindi na po talaga gustong magtanim.

**[02:18:52.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002482)  
Dahil nga napakataas ng cost of production.

**[02:18:55.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002483)  
Sa panahon na hindi lang po langis yung apektado, pati fertilizer ay nakaka-apekto sa ating sektor ng agrikultura.

**[02:19:04.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002484)  
Sa mga jeepney drivers na kasalukuyan pong nagsasagawa ng transport strike, marami po sa kanila mas pipiliin na lang na hindi bumiyahe.

**[02:19:13.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002485)  
Dahil kapag sila po ay bumiyahe, ay lugi pa sila.

**[02:19:17.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002486)  
O kaya naman may nakakausap din po tayong mga TNVS drivers na nagsasabi na yung dating 12 hours po nila,

**[02:19:23.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002487)  
kailangan nilang bumiyahe ng 14 to 15 hours.

**[02:19:27.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002488)  
As in, wala na po talagang pahinga para lang meron lang kitain.

**[02:19:31.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002489)  
Kaya ho, nananawagan ho tayo.

**[02:19:34.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002490)  
Oo, marami po tayong natutulungan sa pamagitan ng mga fuel subsidies, mga targeted assistance sa mga sektor na ito.

**[02:19:42.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002491)  
Pero kailangan po natin ang mas malawakan na epekto na ang magsasakripisyo, yung pamahalaan naman,

**[02:19:48.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002492)  
hindi yung tao na sobra-sobra ng pagtitiis.

**[02:19:52.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002493)  
Dahil sa mataas

**[02:19:53.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002494)  
na presyo ng diesel, ng gasolina.

**[02:19:57.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002495)  
Sa katunayan nga, Mr. Speaker, nung dinedeliberate po natin yung ating panukala tungkol sa pagsususpende

**[02:20:06.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002496)  
at pagbabawas ng excise taxes sa petroleum products sa pamagitan ng pag-provide ng emergency power sa Pangulo,

**[02:20:16.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002497)  
ang DOF mismo ang nag-ulat.

**[02:20:20.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002498)  
And I quote from their presentation,

**[02:20:21.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002499)  
The expected revenue losses from excise tax suspension can also be partially offset by the additional collection from VAT on oil.

**[02:20:32.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002500)  
So, naka-offset naman po eh, yung maaring mabawas na revenues ng gobyerno mula sa excise taxes ng oil, ng petroleum products.

**[02:20:46.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002501)  
Pero bakit hindi pa po natin itodo?

**[02:20:49.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002502)  
Kumpara temporarily lang naman.

**[02:20:51.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002503)  
Diba?

**[02:20:53.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002504)  
LPG at kerosene ngayon, pero dapat po sana isama na natin yung pagsususpende rin ng excise taxes sa diesel at gasolina

**[02:21:02.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002505)  
para mas marami na makinabang, mas marami po tayong matulungan sa panahon ngayon.

**[02:21:08.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002506)  
Yan po, noong matagal ng panawagan ng representasyon na ito at sana kumilos din ang Kongreso,

**[02:21:13.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002507)  
kinakailangan na natin ng mas mabilis at mas decisive na aksyon para makatulong sa ating mga kababayan ngayon.

**[02:21:21.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002508)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, kami po ay nakikiisa sa panawagan ng ating butihing presentante ng Gabriela Partylist.

**[02:21:30.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002509)  
In fact, naiintindihan po natin na hindi po naging madali ang naging kalagayan ng ating mga kababayan

**[02:21:36.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002510)  
simula po nagkaroon ng sigalot sa gitnang silangan na nakapekto po ito sa produkto ng petrolyo sa ating bansa.

**[02:21:45.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002511)  
Kaya nga po sinasabi po ng Department of Finance, ang pangunahing mandato po ay maghanap po,

**[02:21:51.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002512)  
tayo ng gastusin para po mapunduhan natin at mabigyan natin ng karapatang sustento, support, ayuda, subsidies,

**[02:22:04.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002513)  
ang mga naapektuhan po nitong energy crisis na ito.

**[02:22:07.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002514)  
Kaya nga po dapat para sa amin, para sa Department of Finance,

**[02:22:11.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002515)  
ay ang datos po kung saan nanggagaling yung servisyo, kung ano yung dapat nabigyan na beneficiaries

**[02:22:18.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002516)  
as sa mga pangunahing departamento.

**[02:22:21.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002517)  
Kung saan sila po yung may pangunahing mandatong magbigay nitong assistance na ito.

**[02:22:27.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002518)  
Baga, simpleng explanation lang po, ang Department of Finance,

**[02:22:32.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002519)  
maghahanap po yan ng karagdagang kita ng gobyerno para maibigay sa mga departamento nito

**[02:22:39.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002520)  
at yung mga departamento po ang magbibigay sa mga naapektuhan po ng crisis na ito.

**[02:22:49.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002521)  
Pagdating naman po doon sa panahon,

**[02:22:51.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002522)  
panawagan na dapat pa ay may suspend din yung sa diesel, excise tax, at saka sa petroleum.

**[02:22:59.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002523)  
Ito po, again, ito pong Department of Finance, ang kanilang pong mandato ay tingnan

**[02:23:04.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002524)  
kung paano din po balansihin kasi mahirap naman po tayo ay magbigay ng supporta

**[02:23:10.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002525)  
na wala naman po tayong paghuhugutan saan kukunin yung supporta na ito.

**[02:23:14.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002526)  
In very ordinary situation, paano ka naman magbibigay ng isang,

**[02:23:21.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002527)  
ng allowance sa imong anak kung wala ka naman talagang pwedeng pagpunahanan ng pera, diba?

**[02:23:27.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002528)  
Ganon din po sa Department of Finance.

**[02:23:30.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002529)  
Kung completely po na tayo po ay magsususpindi ng mga possible VAT collection po natin,

**[02:23:36.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002530)  
ay maapektuhan din po yung ibibigay natin ng mga subsidies sa ating naapektuhan na sektor.

**[02:23:43.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002531)  
So, kailangan din po natin balansihin yun.

**[02:23:47.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002532)  
Opo, kailangan din po natin balansihin yun.

**[02:23:50.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002533)  
Dahil sa katotohanang, dahil kailangan kulang, ay kailangan meron,

**[02:23:59.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002534)  
hindi dapat na kulang, dapat meron po tayong pagbibigyan ng subsidya.

**[02:24:08.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002535)  
Kung yun po ang gusto natin, again, sinabi na po ng ating butihing interpelator,

**[02:24:13.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002536)  
ay mukhang question na po yan ng Congressional Act,

**[02:24:17.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002537)  
kasi na-mention din po ng ating kagalang-galang,

**[02:24:20.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002538)  
interpelator, pagdating po sa pulisiya.

**[02:24:23.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002539)  
Ang sinasabi lang po ng Department of Finance ay may possible na 10.6 billion pesos na losses na naman po.

**[02:24:33.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002540)  
Tapos, ang translation naman po ito, ay maapektuhan din po yung revenue o pera

**[02:24:40.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002541)  
na pwede natin magamitin ng mga departamento para sila po ay magbigay ayuda

**[02:24:48.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002542)  
o subsidies.

**[02:24:50.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002543)  
Or assistance, subsidies sa mga naapektuang sektor, tulad nalimbawa ng DOTR,

**[02:24:57.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002544)  
tulad nalimbawa ng Department of Agriculture, tulad nalimbawa ng DSWD.

**[02:25:03.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002545)  
So, kami po ay nakikisimpat siya, naniniwala po sa panawagan ng ating kagalang-galang na interpelator.

**[02:25:11.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002546)  
So, kailangan lang po natin balancing approach.

**[02:25:14.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002547)  
We have the revenue that we have collected, and this revenue that we have collected will be specifically designed,

**[02:25:20.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002548)  
or will be specifically used to target beneficiaries.

**[02:25:23.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002549)  
Without the ample resources that we generate, there's no possible way that we can actually respond

**[02:25:29.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002550)  
to the emergency brought about by the crisis in the Middle East, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:25:37.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002551)  
Mr. Speaker, our distinguished sponsor, nanggaling din dito ang Department of Agriculture.

**[02:25:42.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002552)  
At nagtanong tayo kung ano ba yung posisyon nila tungkol dito sa pagpapababa ng presyo ng langis,

**[02:25:49.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002553)  
lalong-lalo

**[02:25:50.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002554)  
na po sa crudo na ginagamit nga sa sektor ng agrikultura.

**[02:25:54.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002555)  
At malinaw yung kanilang posisyon.

**[02:25:56.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002556)  
Kung sila lang nga lang po ang magdidesisyon, ang posisyon nila hindi lang pagbabasura o pagbabawas,

**[02:26:03.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002557)  
pansamantala na excise taxes sa petroleum products.

**[02:26:06.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002558)  
Ang panawagan nga nila, maski po yung VAT sa langis ay dapat masuspindi,

**[02:26:12.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002559)  
kung hindi man talagang buong-buong tanggalin dahil sa impact nito sa sektor ng agrikultura.

**[02:26:18.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002560)  
Nabanggit ko ito.

**[02:26:19.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002561)  
Mr. Speaker, kasi sana po kung wala pang efforts, yung DOF magpunta po kaya kayo doon sa linya ng transport strike.

**[02:26:28.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002562)  
Mismo kausapin niyo po yung mga jeepney drivers.

**[02:26:30.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002563)  
As in, ibang level po ng kahirapan yung kanilang hinaharap ngayon.

**[02:26:35.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002564)  
Wala na talagang kita.

**[02:26:37.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002565)  
Baon pa sa utang.

**[02:26:39.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002566)  
Ganyan po ang kalagayan.

**[02:26:40.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002567)  
Pagdating naman sa mga magsasakat-mangingisda, ganon din po lubog sa utang sa mga microlending.

**[02:26:47.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002568)  
At kung saan-saan pa po na mga pautang at di pa po makabangon.

**[02:26:52.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002569)  
Ngayon, ang challenge diyan, ginaong Speaker, wala ding pondo sa 2027 NEP.

**[02:26:58.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002570)  
Yung mga mahalaga sana ng programa para tulungan makabangon ang mga sektor na ito.

**[02:27:03.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002571)  
Halimbawa, yung fuel subsidy ng LTFRB, zero for 2027.

**[02:27:09.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002572)  
Yung Presidential Assistance for Farmers and Fisherfolk na asahan sana natin for production subsidy ng Farmers and Fisherfolk, zero.

**[02:27:17.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002573)  
Zero din sa 2027 budget.

**[02:27:20.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002574)  
So, ano pong aasahan ng mga sektor na ito?

**[02:27:23.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002575)  
Kundi yung decisive action na lang sana nabawasan yung mga pinapasan nilang mga buwis.

**[02:27:30.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002576)  
Tulad po ng VAT, ng excise taxes.

**[02:27:32.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002577)  
Hindi naman po sa lahat.

**[02:27:33.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002578)  
Doon lamang sa ating mga basic necessities and prime commodities na sana nga kung sa price act, masama na ang diesel at gasoline.

**[02:27:42.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002579)  
Kaya po muli, ang hamon ko po sa DOF.

**[02:27:45.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002580)  
Kasi nagtanong po tayo sa DA.

**[02:27:46.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002581)  
Ang stand nila, mabawasan ang presyo ng langis.

**[02:27:50.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002582)  
Ang stand din po ng DOE kung magdidesisyon naman na magkaroon ng pagbabawas ng presyo ng langis sa pagsususpindi ng excise taxes, welcome din naman.

**[02:28:02.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002583)  
Pero yun nga, ang sinasabi nila, hindi lang naman sila ang nagdidesisyon sa lahat ng ito.

**[02:28:07.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002584)  
At malaki ang role ng ating economic managers at yung DOF pang specifically yung binabanggit nila na hinihintay nila na rekomendasyon.

**[02:28:16.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002585)  
Pagdating sa mga hakbang na yan.

**[02:28:18.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002586)  
Kaya po, yun ang hamon natin sa ating economic managers.

**[02:28:23.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002587)  
Kausapin po kaya natin ng diretso yung ating mga sektor na ito na naapekto.

**[02:28:29.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002588)  
Ang tanungin po natin, naabot ba kayo ng mga targeted subsidies na ito?

**[02:28:33.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002589)  
Nakaabot ba sa inyo yung fuel subsidies?

**[02:28:36.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002590)  
Nakatulong ba para makatuloy kayo ng laot?

**[02:28:40.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002591)  
Nakatulong ba para makapagtanim kayo muli?

**[02:28:42.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002592)  
Ang laki po ng hamon sa ating bayan.

**[02:28:44.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002593)  
Malaking magagagawa.

**[02:28:45.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002594)  
Malaking magagawa ng pagsususpindi ng excise taxes sa lahat ng petroleum products.

**[02:28:50.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002595)  
Pag-aaral ng Kongreso para mabasura, mabawasan man lang ang 12% VAT sa pagkain, sa kuryente, sa langis.

**[02:28:59.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002596)  
At pagtitiyak na sa 2027 na general appropriations natin, maisasama yung production subsidies, fuel subsidies.

**[02:29:09.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002597)  
Yung mga bagay po na mag-aangat talaga ng sektor ng agrikultura, fisheries.

**[02:29:14.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002598)  
ng industry.

**[02:29:16.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002599)  
At hindi lang po tayo nakaasa sa household consumption dahil sa mga patong-patong na mga buwis.

**[02:29:23.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002600)  
Yan po ang panawagan ng mga kababaihan.

**[02:29:25.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002601)  
Sana naman po, hindi lang sana, pero dapat lang, umaksyon agad ngayon sa panahon ng krisis.

**[02:29:32.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002602)  
Maraming salamat, ginoong speaker. Maraming salamat, ginoong sponsor. Maraming salamat.

**[02:29:37.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002603)  
Thank you very much, honorable.

**[02:29:39.350] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002604)  
Mr. Speaker, allow me to respond to the comments.

**[02:29:42.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002605)  
I think that was...

**[02:29:43.890] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002606)  
Make it brief. Can you make it brief, the response?

**[02:29:47.590] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002607)  
I will, I will, I will respond to the comments, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

**[02:29:51.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002608)  
Unang-una po, ang pangunahing mandato po ng Department of Finance,

**[02:29:56.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002609)  
sa totoo lang po, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, ay maghanap po...

**[02:30:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002610)  
ng revenue na po pwedeng

**[02:30:01.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002611)  
gastusan ang pangangailangan ng ating

**[02:30:03.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002612)  
mga estudyante,

**[02:30:05.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002613)  
ang ating pangangailangan ng transport sector

**[02:30:08.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002614)  
para po mabudgetan

**[02:30:10.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002615)  
yung pangangailangan ng ating

**[02:30:11.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002616)  
mga mamamayan. Pagdating naman po

**[02:30:13.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002617)  
doon sa paano

**[02:30:15.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002618)  
madetermine ang pondo

**[02:30:17.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002619)  
sa NEP, kaya ang Department of Finance

**[02:30:20.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002620)  
po, binawasan nga po eh.

**[02:30:22.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002621)  
In fact, ang digitalization na

**[02:30:23.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002622)  
plano po ng BIR to

**[02:30:25.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002623)  
case of doing business na wala rin po.

**[02:30:28.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002624)  
In fact, ang Bureau of Customs,

**[02:30:29.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002625)  
ang kanilang attempt really to

**[02:30:31.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002626)  
fight smuggling

**[02:30:33.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002627)  
sa scanning devices,

**[02:30:35.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002628)  
na up-to-date na scanning devices, wala

**[02:30:37.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002629)  
na rin po. So, ibig sabihin,

**[02:30:39.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002630)  
may mga pondo po talaga per department

**[02:30:41.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002631)  
na nade-defund.

**[02:30:43.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002632)  
Pero it's not, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[02:30:46.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002633)  
the mandate of Department

**[02:30:47.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002634)  
of Finance to

**[02:30:49.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002635)  
allocate fundings for the use

**[02:30:51.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002636)  
of each agencies.

**[02:30:53.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002637)  
Para po mas klaro po yun. In fact, Mr. Speaker,

**[02:30:56.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002638)  
doon po sa excise tax

**[02:30:57.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002639)  
na sinuspende po natin,

**[02:30:59.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002640)  
on LPG and

**[02:31:01.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002641)  
kerosene,

**[02:31:03.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002642)  
meron pong

**[02:31:04.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002643)  
meron pong

**[02:31:09.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002644)  
automatic na naging

**[02:31:11.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002645)  
benefit ito sa ating

**[02:31:15.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002646)  
mga kababayan. Ngayon, kung

**[02:31:17.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002647)  
gagawin po natin, 100%

**[02:31:19.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002648)  
universal, yung

**[02:31:21.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002649)  
including

**[02:31:23.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002650)  
the VAT na

**[02:31:25.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002651)  
imposed on diesel

**[02:31:27.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002652)  
and gasoline, meron

**[02:31:29.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002653)  
automatic po na 350

**[02:31:31.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002654)  
billion pesos

**[02:31:33.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002655)  
ang mawawala po sa atin.

**[02:31:36.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002656)  
So, magpagkakaproblema

**[02:31:37.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002657)  
naman din po tayo, saan

**[02:31:39.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002658)  
natin pagkukunan yung

**[02:31:41.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002659)  
panggastos ng

**[02:31:43.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002660)  
ating gobyerno, hindi lang po sa

**[02:31:45.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002661)  
subsidy, hindi lang po sa

**[02:31:47.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002662)  
assistance, pati na rin po yung

**[02:31:49.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002663)  
regular na paggagastosan

**[02:31:52.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002664)  
ng mga regular programs

**[02:31:53.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002665)  
ng bawat departamento. So, kami po

**[02:31:55.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002666)  
yung nakikisa po sa inyo.

**[02:31:57.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002667)  
Kung tatanungin po ang Department of

**[02:31:59.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002668)  
Finance, dahil mandato nila

**[02:32:01.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002669)  
magkaroon ng

**[02:32:03.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002670)  
malaking way or venue

**[02:32:05.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002671)  
para maka-generate ng income,

**[02:32:07.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002672)  
yun naman po ay aggressively

**[02:32:08.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002673)  
ginagawa ng ating Department of Finance.

**[02:32:11.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002674)  
Mrs. Speaker, kagalang-galang

**[02:32:13.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002675)  
na interpellator.

**[02:32:15.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002676)  
Kaya, Mr. Speaker, ang hamon po

**[02:32:17.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002677)  
sa atin, taasan naman natin yung

**[02:32:19.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002678)  
pondo para sa lokal na agrikultura

**[02:32:21.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002679)  
sa Philippine Industries, tsaka sa

**[02:32:23.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002680)  
Filipino MSMEs. Yan po,

**[02:32:25.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002681)  
lahat yan, nakatanggap

**[02:32:27.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002682)  
ng napakalaking kaltas sa kanilang

**[02:32:29.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002683)  
pondo. Dapat ibalik natin sa

**[02:32:31.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002684)  
2026 level ang kanilang mga pondo.

**[02:32:33.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002685)  
Palakasin po natin yung productive

**[02:32:35.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002686)  
capacity ng mga sektor na ito

**[02:32:37.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002687)  
para makatulong sa pag-aangat

**[02:32:39.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002688)  
ng ekonomiya ng ating

**[02:32:41.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002689)  
bansa. Maraming-maraming salamat.

**[02:32:43.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002690)  
Nakikiisa po kami doon sa panawagan. Kailangan

**[02:32:45.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002691)  
panawag po na tayo sa Department of Budget

**[02:32:47.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002692)  
and Management na pondohan ng mas

**[02:32:49.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002693)  
malaki ang ating edukasyon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:32:51.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002694)  
Thank you very much, Majority Leader.

**[02:32:53.440] Rep. De Carlo L. Uy** (asr-002695)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the

**[02:32:55.380] Rep. De Carlo L. Uy** (asr-002696)  
sponsor, I move to recognize Representative

**[02:32:57.340] Rep. De Carlo L. Uy** (asr-002697)  
Dadak Kiram Ismula of Party

**[02:32:59.460] Rep. De Carlo L. Uy** (asr-002698)  
Les Akbayan.

**[02:33:00.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002699)  
The gentlelady from Akbayan, Representative

**[02:33:03.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002700)  
Dadak Kiram Ismula, is recognized.

**[02:33:05.940] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-002701)  
Ma'am, you may proceed.

**[02:33:08.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002702)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:33:10.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002703)  
Assalamualaikum.

**[02:33:11.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002704)  
Warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

**[02:33:14.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002705)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished

**[02:33:15.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002706)  
sponsor, during the

**[02:33:17.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002707)  
plenary debates for the DBM's

**[02:33:19.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002708)  
budget, they admitted

**[02:33:21.980] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002709)  
that there is

**[02:33:23.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002710)  
a shortfall between

**[02:33:25.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002711)  
the statutorily

**[02:33:28.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002712)  
mandated

**[02:33:29.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002713)  
earmarking of sin taxes and

**[02:33:31.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002714)  
the actual allocations

**[02:33:32.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002715)  
in the NEP. It was also

**[02:33:35.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002716)  
established na binabase nila

**[02:33:37.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002717)  
ang computation nila on

**[02:33:39.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002718)  
what we allocate sa certification

**[02:33:41.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002719)  
provided by the

**[02:33:43.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002720)  
Department of Finance.

**[02:33:45.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002721)  
What is the exact official

**[02:33:47.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002722)  
title of the certification

**[02:33:49.700] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002723)  
on sin tax collections

**[02:33:51.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002724)  
provided by the DOF?

**[02:33:53.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002725)  
Yeah, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[02:33:55.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002726)  
the DOF only certifies the actual

**[02:33:57.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002727)  
excise tax collection,

**[02:33:59.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002728)  
Mr. Speaker. So,

**[02:34:01.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002729)  
we, the certification is

**[02:34:03.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002730)  
subsequently sent to the DBM, but as

**[02:34:05.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002731)  
to the proposed allocation

**[02:34:07.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002732)  
for the funding

**[02:34:09.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002733)  
of the PhilHealth in the NEP

**[02:34:11.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002734)  
as sourced out from the sin tax,

**[02:34:13.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002735)  
we defer to the decision of the DBM.

**[02:34:15.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002736)  
Again, this is the DBM really that allocates this

**[02:34:17.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002737)  
funding and make use of this funding

**[02:34:18.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002738)  
that we sourced out, the Department of Finance

**[02:34:20.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002739)  
sourced out from taxes, Mr. Speaker,

**[02:34:23.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002740)  
Your Honor.

**[02:34:24.980] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002741)  
Naintindihan ko po ito, no, distinguished

**[02:34:26.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002742)  
sponsor. However,

**[02:34:29.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002743)  
nagiging

**[02:34:30.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002744)  
pinball na po yata kami dito

**[02:34:33.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002745)  
na parang pinag

**[02:34:34.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002746)  
papasapasahan na po kami.

**[02:34:37.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002747)  
Galing kay Kong Iris, galing din po

**[02:34:39.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002748)  
sa akin, at sa iba ko pang mga

**[02:34:41.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002749)  
kasamahan na kapag tinatanong namin

**[02:34:43.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002750)  
ng PhilHealth, ituturo kami

**[02:34:44.720] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002751)  
sa DBM. Pag itatanong namin ng DBM,

**[02:34:47.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002752)  
ituturo kami sa DOF.

**[02:34:49.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002753)  
Ganito na lamang po.

**[02:34:51.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002754)  
What is the exact official title of the

**[02:34:53.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002755)  
certification on sin tax collections

**[02:34:55.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002756)  
provided by the DOF?

**[02:34:56.860] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002757)  
Yung title na lang po.

**[02:34:59.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002758)  
Mr. Speaker, just to be

**[02:35:10.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002759)  
factual about

**[02:35:11.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002760)  
the certification,

**[02:35:13.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002761)  
there's no actual title if the

**[02:35:15.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002762)  
good lady from Akbayan

**[02:35:17.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002763)  
wants to

**[02:35:19.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002764)  
wants the DOF

**[02:35:21.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002765)  
to produce, but what we can

**[02:35:23.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002766)  
provide you is a

**[02:35:25.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002767)  
certification from

**[02:35:27.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002768)  
the Bureau of Internal

**[02:35:29.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002769)  
Revenue, of course DOF,

**[02:35:31.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002770)  
with the exact amount that is

**[02:35:33.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002771)  
collected from the sin taxes,

**[02:35:35.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002772)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor. Again,

**[02:35:38.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002773)  
the

**[02:35:38.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002774)  
decision on how

**[02:35:41.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002775)  
to

**[02:35:41.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002776)  
allocate and

**[02:35:45.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002777)  
then transfer, the

**[02:35:47.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002778)  
automatic dapat transfer sa PhilHealth,

**[02:35:49.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002779)  
we defer to the DBM

**[02:35:51.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002780)  
kasi ang pangunahing

**[02:35:53.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002781)  
bandato po naman talaga ng DOF

**[02:35:55.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002782)  
is to make sure na nakukuha

**[02:35:57.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002783)  
yung mga taxes na kinukolekta.

**[02:35:59.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002784)  
In particular, ang sin taxes.

**[02:36:01.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002785)  
Tapos, ang

**[02:36:03.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002786)  
DBM naman po ang nag-a-allocate doon sa PhilHealth,

**[02:36:05.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002787)  
Mrs. Speaker, for their use.

**[02:36:07.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002788)  
Klaruhin ko lang po, Mr. Sponsor, so wala pong

**[02:36:09.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002789)  
specific title yung certification.

**[02:36:11.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002790)  
Wala po, Mrs. Speaker. We can

**[02:36:13.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002791)  
provide you the sample of the certificate,

**[02:36:15.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002792)  
Mrs. Speaker, later.

**[02:36:16.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002792-split-2)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:36:18.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002793)  
Can the DOF confirm

**[02:36:19.460] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002794)  
also that the certification

**[02:36:21.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002795)  
it issues on sin tax

**[02:36:23.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002796)  
collections, ang ginagamit

**[02:36:25.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002797)  
dapat nabatayan ng DBM

**[02:36:27.240] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002798)  
in determining the amounts,

**[02:36:29.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002799)  
to be appropriated for the

**[02:36:30.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002800)  
statutorily mandated health programs

**[02:36:33.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002801)  
in PhilHealth?

**[02:36:35.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002802)  
Tama po ba?

**[02:36:36.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002803)  
You're asking, sorry, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[02:36:38.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002804)  
you're asking about the criteria of DBM?

**[02:36:41.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002805)  
I'm asking, actually,

**[02:36:43.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002806)  
na kung maaaring i-confirm po

**[02:36:45.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002807)  
ng DOF

**[02:36:46.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002808)  
na yung ginagamit

**[02:36:49.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002809)  
dapat nabatayan ng DBM

**[02:36:51.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002810)  
in determining the amounts

**[02:36:53.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002811)  
to be appropriated for the

**[02:36:55.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002812)  
statutorily mandated health programs

**[02:36:57.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002813)  
in PhilHealth, ay yung

**[02:36:59.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002814)  
certification it issues

**[02:37:01.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002815)  
on sin tax collections?

**[02:37:03.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002816)  
Yes, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:37:05.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002817)  
Maraming salamat.

**[02:37:07.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002818)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[02:37:08.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002819)  
based on the Joint Circular No. 1

**[02:37:11.240] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002820)  
Series of 2022

**[02:37:12.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002821)  
issued by the DBM,

**[02:37:15.600] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002822)  
DOF, PagCore,

**[02:37:17.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002823)  
PCSO, and PhilHealth,

**[02:37:19.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002824)  
I understand that there are certain

**[02:37:21.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002825)  
timelines when the DOF and

**[02:37:23.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002826)  
its attached agencies should

**[02:37:25.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002827)  
submit the annual and quarterly

**[02:37:27.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002828)  
certifications to the DBM,

**[02:37:29.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002829)  
DOH, and PhilHealth.

**[02:37:31.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002830)  
Can the DOF confirm

**[02:37:33.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002831)  
when the certification for

**[02:37:35.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002832)  
the fiscal year of 2025

**[02:37:37.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002833)  
was submitted?

**[02:37:44.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002834)  
Can I refer to the data, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor?

**[02:37:47.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002835)  
Yes, yes.

**[02:37:59.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002836)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[02:38:14.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002837)  
pardon, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:38:17.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002838)  
I'd like to apologize.

**[02:38:18.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002839)  
Pardon if the...

**[02:38:22.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002840)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:38:24.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002841)  
The one that we have,

**[02:38:25.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002842)  
Mr. Speaker, is a soft copy.

**[02:38:28.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002843)  
It's not...

**[02:38:29.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002844)  
It's not quite readable.

**[02:38:30.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002845)  
But there are certificates,

**[02:38:32.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002846)  
Mr. Speaker, that

**[02:38:33.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002847)  
we transmit to DBM.

**[02:38:37.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002848)  
But if the

**[02:38:38.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002849)  
good lady from

**[02:38:39.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002850)  
Baakbayan Party List would allow us

**[02:38:42.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002851)  
to just simply furnish you the copy,

**[02:38:44.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002852)  
there are several certificates

**[02:38:46.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002853)  
with a certain amount, but it's not readable,

**[02:38:48.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002854)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, because it's

**[02:38:50.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002855)  
in soft copy, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:38:52.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002856)  
So we can produce a hard copy of those

**[02:38:54.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002857)  
certificates.

**[02:38:55.240] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002858)  
Sige po. Mr. Speaker,

**[02:38:56.760] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002859)  
a distinguished colleague,

**[02:38:59.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002860)  
sponsor, okay lang po yun,

**[02:39:01.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002861)  
provide na lang po din, kasi

**[02:39:03.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002862)  
hiningi din po kasi yan namin, pero

**[02:39:05.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002863)  
hindi rin po na-provide.

**[02:39:06.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002864)  
But, Mrs. Speaker, I think this was

**[02:39:08.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002865)  
one certificate was

**[02:39:10.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002866)  
released in February

**[02:39:12.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002867)  
13, 2026,

**[02:39:15.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002868)  
Mrs. Speaker, and

**[02:39:16.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002869)  
with a total

**[02:39:19.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002870)  
total sin tax

**[02:39:22.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002871)  
collected, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:39:25.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002872)  
But again,

**[02:39:25.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002873)  
you have to

**[02:39:27.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002874)  
pardon, Mrs. Speaker,

**[02:39:29.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002875)  
for not being able to give you the concrete

**[02:39:31.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002876)  
amount. We're just gonna

**[02:39:33.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002877)  
run through the soft copy and then

**[02:39:35.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002878)  
forward, Mrs. Speaker, the good lady

**[02:39:36.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002879)  
from Baakbayan, the hard copy, Mrs. Speaker.

**[02:39:39.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002880)  
For her perusal.

**[02:39:40.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002880-split-2)  
Yes, Mr. Sponsor,

**[02:39:41.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002881)  
I am willing to wait

**[02:39:42.620] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002882)  
for the copies furnished to my

**[02:39:45.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002883)  
office po. I'll just move

**[02:39:47.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002884)  
to my next question.

**[02:39:48.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002884-split-2)  
Thank you, Mrs. Speaker.

**[02:39:49.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002885)  
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, based

**[02:39:51.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002886)  
on these certifications na hindi

**[02:39:53.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002887)  
pa nga namin nakikita din, pero

**[02:39:55.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002888)  
magbe-base na lang ako sa aking tanong

**[02:39:57.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002889)  
at tsaka sa kaalamahan,

**[02:39:59.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002890)  
namin doon sa aming mga na-research,

**[02:40:02.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002891)  
yung sa sin tax

**[02:40:03.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002892)  
collections po na certifications,

**[02:40:06.460] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002893)  
can the DOF

**[02:40:07.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002894)  
confirm that there is indeed

**[02:40:09.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002895)  
a shortfall between

**[02:40:11.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002896)  
the amount that should be earmarked

**[02:40:13.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002897)  
for health under existing

**[02:40:15.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002898)  
laws and the amount actually

**[02:40:17.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002899)  
reflected in the NEP?

**[02:40:21.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002900)  
Mrs. Speaker, Your Honors,

**[02:40:23.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002901)  
I have here, if

**[02:40:25.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002902)  
the good lady would allow me, I have

**[02:40:27.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002903)  
here the particulars. Again, the sin tax

**[02:40:29.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002904)  
is just sourced out

**[02:40:31.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002905)  
from one agency.

**[02:40:33.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002906)  
It can also come from

**[02:40:35.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002907)  
BIR, from customs, different

**[02:40:37.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002908)  
sources. But here is

**[02:40:39.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002909)  
just to give you a rough

**[02:40:40.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002910)  
from the TICSA

**[02:40:42.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002911)  
sin tax, excise tax

**[02:40:45.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002912)  
on tobacco, it's 148

**[02:40:47.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002913)  
148.74

**[02:40:51.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002914)  
billion pesos. Alcohol,

**[02:40:53.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002915)  
that's in 2025 po, Mrs.

**[02:40:55.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002916)  
Speaker.

**[02:40:57.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002917)  
126.43

**[02:40:59.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002918)  
billion pesos.

**[02:41:02.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002919)  
E-cigarettes,

**[02:41:03.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002920)  
3.48 billion pesos.

**[02:41:06.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002921)  
Sweetened beverages,

**[02:41:07.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002922)  
39.33 billion pesos

**[02:41:09.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002923)  
with a total of 317.97

**[02:41:11.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002924)  
billion pesos. This was

**[02:41:13.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002925)  
the last year. But we can also add

**[02:41:15.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002926)  
to your reference, Mrs. Speaker,

**[02:41:17.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002927)  
the certificate that you requested,

**[02:41:19.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002928)  
the latest certificate we have

**[02:41:21.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002929)  
transmitted to DBM, which is

**[02:41:23.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002930)  
on February of this year, Mrs.

**[02:41:25.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002931)  
Speaker, Your Honors. So to your question,

**[02:41:28.600] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002932)  
can... The question,

**[02:41:29.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002933)  
Salamat po dito sa

**[02:41:31.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002934)  
pag-clarify, Mr. Sponsor.

**[02:41:33.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002935)  
Naibigay din po the same

**[02:41:35.460] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002936)  
amount ng DBM sa amin

**[02:41:37.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002937)  
base sa nabigay nyo po ngayon.

**[02:41:40.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002938)  
However,

**[02:41:41.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002939)  
yung tanong ko po is,

**[02:41:43.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002940)  
magkano po yung dapat

**[02:41:45.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002941)  
na earmark for health

**[02:41:47.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002942)  
under existing laws

**[02:41:49.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002943)  
and the amount reflected on

**[02:41:51.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002944)  
the NEP? Or,

**[02:41:53.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002945)  
pwede po bang i-commit or

**[02:41:55.240] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002946)  
i-admit ng DOF

**[02:41:57.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002947)  
na indeed may shortfall

**[02:41:59.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002948)  
po between the amount that should

**[02:42:01.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002949)  
be earmarked for health

**[02:42:02.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002950)  
under existing laws and the amount

**[02:42:05.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002951)  
reflected in the NEP?

**[02:42:08.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002952)  
So based on the rate,

**[02:42:11.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002953)  
Mrs. Speaker, which is 80% of

**[02:42:13.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002954)  
the 50% of the entire collected from

**[02:42:15.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002955)  
the same taxes that goes to PhilHealth,

**[02:42:17.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002956)  
from 2025,

**[02:42:20.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002957)  
it's 69.81

**[02:42:22.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002958)  
billion pesos.

**[02:42:24.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002959)  
And this year,

**[02:42:25.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002960)  
Mrs. Speaker, we have collected

**[02:42:27.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002961)  
so far 69.78

**[02:42:29.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002962)  
billion pesos, Mrs.

**[02:42:31.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002963)  
Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:42:33.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002964)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:42:35.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002965)  
Ulitin ko po

**[02:42:36.700] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002966)  
yung tanong ko, pangatlong

**[02:42:39.060] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002967)  
beses sa DOF.

**[02:42:41.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002968)  
Ang tanong ko po, can the

**[02:42:43.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002969)  
DOF confirm that

**[02:42:45.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002970)  
there is indeed a shortfall

**[02:42:46.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002971)  
between the amount that should be

**[02:42:49.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002972)  
earmarked for health under

**[02:42:50.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002973)  
existing laws and the amount

**[02:42:52.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002974)  
actually reflected in the NEP?

**[02:42:56.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002975)  
What we can actually give,

**[02:42:59.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002976)  
as a guarantee, or as a response to your

**[02:43:00.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002977)  
question, is that there's really

**[02:43:02.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002978)  
a difference, no? There's a difference.

**[02:43:05.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002979)  
But, yeah, there's a difference

**[02:43:07.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002980)  
between collection,

**[02:43:09.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002981)  
the computed, collected,

**[02:43:11.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002982)  
and earmarked. Kasi earmarked po ito na

**[02:43:13.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002983)  
revenue, right? It should go directly to the PhilHealth.

**[02:43:15.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002984)  
So there's a difference

**[02:43:16.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002985)  
between what is collected as

**[02:43:18.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002986)  
earmarked directly to the

**[02:43:20.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002987)  
PhilHealth versus

**[02:43:22.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002988)  
what is being appropriated.

**[02:43:24.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002989)  
So it's not really a shortfall

**[02:43:26.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002990)  
in a sense that there's a difference.

**[02:43:29.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002991)  
In terms of

**[02:43:30.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002992)  
the amount collected

**[02:43:32.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002993)  
and the amount that is

**[02:43:35.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002994)  
supposed to go through

**[02:43:36.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002995)  
the PhilHealth,

**[02:43:39.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002996)  
as appropriated

**[02:43:41.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-002997)  
by DBM, Mrs. Speaker.

**[02:43:43.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002998)  
Siguro, kailangan po ninyong

**[02:43:45.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-002999)  
mag-usap pati ng DBM, kasi

**[02:43:47.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003000)  
ang DBM po, inadmit na

**[02:43:48.980] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003001)  
indeed may shortfall po.

**[02:43:51.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003002)  
So kailangan mag-usap po kayo.

**[02:43:53.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003003)  
At sa computations din po

**[02:43:55.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003004)  
namin, indeed may shortfall po.

**[02:43:57.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003005)  
Next question.

**[02:43:59.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003006)  
Just to be clarified, Mrs. Speaker,

**[02:44:00.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003007)  
just a response to that, Mrs. Speaker. I think

**[02:44:02.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003008)  
DBM, on the basis of their mandate

**[02:44:05.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003009)  
to allocate fundings,

**[02:44:06.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003010)  
maybe they have that

**[02:44:09.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003011)  
assessment as to

**[02:44:11.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003012)  
determining whether there's a shortfall or not.

**[02:44:13.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003013)  
The DOF primary

**[02:44:15.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003014)  
consideration is how to

**[02:44:16.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003015)  
generate revenue

**[02:44:18.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003016)  
from the taxes that we collect

**[02:44:20.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003017)  
and then the terminology that

**[02:44:22.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003018)  
we use, the DOF use,

**[02:44:25.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003019)  
is differences and not on

**[02:44:26.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003020)  
the technical implication

**[02:44:28.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003021)  
of designing it or

**[02:44:30.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003022)  
describing it as a windfall.

**[02:44:32.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003023)  
Because the DBM po yung na terminology, Mrs. Speaker.

**[02:44:34.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003024)  
Just for a clarification and to put

**[02:44:36.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003025)  
that on record, Mrs. Speaker.

**[02:44:37.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003026)  
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, naintindihan ko po

**[02:44:40.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003027)  
yung naging sagot

**[02:44:42.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003028)  
or yung naging explanation po

**[02:44:44.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003029)  
ng ating distinguished sponsor.

**[02:44:47.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003030)  
However,

**[02:44:48.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003031)  
mukhang meron nga po talagang

**[02:44:50.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003032)  
hindi pagkakaintindihan dito

**[02:44:52.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003033)  
between the DOF and the DBM.

**[02:44:54.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003034)  
Kasi si DBM, inadmit na nila

**[02:44:56.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003035)  
na ang certification,

**[02:44:58.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003036)  
po, ay nag-fail.

**[02:45:00.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003037)  
Dahil din po sa DOF. At inadmit din po ng DBM na indeed may shortfall pero dito po sa DOF, hindi po nila ina-admit pero sinasabi ng DBM na ang DOF din po ang tinuturo nila.

**[02:45:16.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003038)  
But anyway, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, kukunin ko na lang po yung mga data na need ko.

**[02:45:22.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003039)  
Allow me first, with all due respect, allow me just to clarify lang po. Mr. Speaker, we understand also where the good lady from Akbayan is coming from.

**[02:45:31.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003040)  
But the only participation, again, aside from collecting the sin taxes, earmark revenue for PhilHealth, the participation of DOF is to certify that there has been a collection from sin taxes.

**[02:45:45.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003041)  
We certify that to DBM.

**[02:45:52.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003042)  
Ito silang concrete na amount kung saan nila po paglalagyan sa PhilHealth. So, yun lang po yung participation just to clear that up, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:45:59.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003043)  
Maraming salamat po. Base po ba sa certifications noong 2023 onwards, magkano po per year ang collections kung meron man po?

**[02:46:11.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003044)  
Let me again refer to the data, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:46:14.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003045)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[02:46:20.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003046)  
So, sin taxes po.

**[02:46:22.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003047)  
Mr. Speaker, composed of tobacco, alcohol, e-cigarettes, sweetened beverages.

**[02:46:28.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003048)  
As a whole na lang po.

**[02:46:29.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003049)  
As a whole, yes. In 2023, 289.34 billion pesos. In 2024, 295.65 billion pesos. And in 2025 is 317.97 billion pesos. We will furnish a copy to the lady from Akbayan, Mr. Speaker, later on.

**[02:46:50.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003050)  
Sige po. Maraming salamat.

**[02:46:52.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003051)  
Based on the relevant sin tax laws naman po, and other laws on earmarking, magkano dapat po doon ang allocated for universal healthcare and PhilHealth?

**[02:47:04.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003052)  
Thank you.

**[02:47:22.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003053)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The total, starting from 2023, it's 83.90 billion pesos. And in 2024, 79.1 billion pesos. In 2025, it's 69.81 billion pesos. And this year, it's 69.78 billion pesos, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:47:44.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003054)  
That's for PhilHealth, earmarked revenue.

**[02:47:46.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003055)  
Salamat po.

**[02:47:47.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003056)  
Based sa mga nakaraang GAA, magkano ang amounts na appropriated?

**[02:47:52.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003057)  
For universal healthcare at PhilHealth. Let's say 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 po.

**[02:47:59.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003058)  
Sa universal healthcare ng 2023, meron pong 55.10 billion pesos. Sa 2024 po, meron pong 64.30 billion pesos. Sa 2025, 68.90 billion pesos. At sa kasalukuyang taon po, may 72.72.

**[02:48:22.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003059)  
Billion pesos po, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor. Pwede rin po namin bigyan ang kagalang-galang na interpellator ng sumatutal nitong na-mention ng mga amounts po mamaya po, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:48:32.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003060)  
Sige po. Paseparate na lang po yung sa universal healthcare at yung sa PhilHealth po.

**[02:48:38.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003061)  
We will do that, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:48:39.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003062)  
Salamat po. Ngayong 2027 naman po, magkano dapat ang earmark at magkano ang provisions na nasa NEP para sa UHC at sa PhilHealth?

**[02:48:49.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003063)  
Mrs. Speaker, under the proposed NEP 2027, the projected collection from Sin tax for PhilHealth is 75.23 billion pesos. For the UHC, it's 77.94 billion pesos, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:49:11.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003064)  
Salamat po. Kung may shortfall between the amount required to be earmarked under the law and the amount actuated,

**[02:49:19.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003065)  
actual reflected in the NEP, can the DOF provide the exact amount of the shortfall for each fiscal year from 2022 to 2026 po?

**[02:49:34.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003066)  
Mrs. Speaker, we will submit po the amount, the certification. If there's a difference, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor, from the actual collection and the one that is being projected in the NEP,

**[02:49:47.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003067)  
we will, the DOF will have to sit down.

**[02:49:49.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003068)  
We will sit down with DBM, again, to get the NEP funds, Mrs. Speaker, so that we can provide you the accurate amount, Mrs. Speaker, and figures, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:50:00.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003069)  
Sige po. Maraming salamat.

**[02:50:02.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003070)  
Kung hindi lahat ng Sin tax collections ay na-account for sa certification, sa mga certifications, dahil mayroon ngang kakulangan or shortfall,

**[02:50:13.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003071)  
can the DOF clarify how the portion of the Sin tax collections corresponding to this shortfall?

**[02:50:19.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003072)  
Is accounted for in the National Government's book? At saan napupunta ang amount na ito?

**[02:50:26.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003073)  
Mrs. Speaker, again, there are earmarked revenue, which I believe the good lady is already familiar with.

**[02:50:33.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003074)  
So far as Sin tax is concerned, it automatically goes to a specific agency, like for example, PhilHealth.

**[02:50:40.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003075)  
Yeah, and also...

**[02:50:49.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003076)  
Again, in the process, Mrs. Speaker, of appropriating, again, it goes straight to the DBM for the allocation of the specific earmarked revenue, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:51:14.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003077)  
And from the part of the DOF, it's just a certification that we actually submit to the DBM.

**[02:51:19.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003078)  
Okay po, re-respetuhin ko po yung sagot nila. Pero may idea po kaya ang DOF, saan napupunta yung sobra na hindi nai-earmark?

**[02:51:28.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003079)  
Well, kung mayroon pong, let's say, this is not the position of the DOF, but I think in the understanding of how the bureaucracy works, Mrs. Speaker,

**[02:51:37.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003080)  
if they are savings, then it goes straight to the Bureau of Treasury, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:51:49.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003081)  
Yeah, again, it's really the DBM, Mrs. Speaker, that has the primary mandate kung paano po nila ma-determine kung magkano yung unused, for example, na pondo, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:52:10.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003082)  
So, that also goes to the question of, I think, utilization rate, no? Kung yun po yung gustong itanong ng ating kabutihing...

**[02:52:19.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003083)  
But it's the agency, really, and since it is an allocation of funding, DBM po talaga ang may-may alam kung saan napupunta yung mga unused na pondo at di nagagamit na pondo, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:52:33.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003084)  
Sige po, hindi ko na po didiinan ito. Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, to fully appreciate the extent of this shortfall, on September 22, 2026, yung office ko po ay nag-request po ng mga following certifications.

**[02:52:49.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003085)  
Certificates and documents sa DOF. However, hindi po namin ito natanggap hanggang ngayon.

**[02:52:55.260] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003086)  
First po, copies of the certification of sin tax collections for 2022 to 2026. Nag-agree na po tayo kanina, nabibigyan niyo po kami ng kopya.

**[02:53:05.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003087)  
Second, latest certification use as the basis for the 2027 PhilHealth funding.

**[02:53:12.200] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003088)  
Pangatlo, yung year-by-year computation of the shortfall showing the total sin tax collection.

**[02:53:19.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003089)  
Subject to earmarking, the amount required under the law, and the amount certified by the DOF, and the amount ultimately reflected in the NEP.

**[02:53:30.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003090)  
Tatlo lamang po yung hinihingi ko.

**[02:53:32.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003091)  
We will forward the good lady from Akbayan these copies, Mrs. Speaker, she requested, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:53:39.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003092)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:53:40.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003093)  
Mr. Speaker, given na nangyayari na po ang mga shortfall over several fiscal years,

**[02:53:46.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003094)  
can the DOF clarify if there are...

**[02:53:49.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003095)  
Are there concrete steps na ginagawa to rectify the shortfall and address this issue po?

**[02:53:57.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003096)  
It's really, Mrs. Speaker, again, apologies to the good lady.

**[02:54:02.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003097)  
It's really the DBM, the only participation of DOF is to certify that this amount has been collected from the sin taxes, Mrs. Speaker.

**[02:54:11.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003098)  
So it's really the DBM that identifies if there are differences in fact, no?

**[02:54:17.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003099)  
Or as what the good lady...

**[02:54:19.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003100)  
labeled it according to the DBM's terminology.

**[02:54:22.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003100-split-2)  
Sige po.

**[02:54:23.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003101)  
In the documents we received from DBM noong 2026, may kulang na 16 billion sa PhilHealth budget,

**[02:54:31.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003102)  
basing on the sin tax collections.

**[02:54:33.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003103)  
This has been the trend since 2021.

**[02:54:37.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003104)  
Bakit hindi po ito nakokorek hanggang ngayon?

**[02:54:41.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003105)  
Yes.

**[02:54:43.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003106)  
It's still, if it's really part of the NEP, Mrs. Speaker, it's really the DBM that allocates for this funding, Mrs.

**[02:54:49.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003107)  
Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:54:50.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003108)  
Sige po.

**[02:54:51.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003109)  
DBM.

**[02:54:52.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003110)  
Kung ang problema ay ang timing between the period na hinahanda ang NEP at ang pag-issue ng certificate since 2021,

**[02:55:01.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003111)  
walang nakaisip na i-issue ang certification at ang appropriate time na maisama sa budget preparation stage?

**[02:55:09.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003112)  
It's we submit, Mrs. Speaker, the certification.

**[02:55:12.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003113)  
Again, it's the DBM that really allocates funding for each different agencies, including those of earmarked revenue, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:55:20.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003114)  
Finally, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Sponsor, will the DOF support appropriate congressional action to ensure that the amounts required by the law to be earmarked for health are fully recognized and provided for in the national budget?

**[02:55:37.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003115)  
And if so, what mechanisms does the DOF recommend to address the identified gaps?

**[02:55:43.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003116)  
Naintindihan ko na po na laging kay DBM, kay DBM, kay DBM.

**[02:55:48.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003117)  
Pero, ano?

**[02:55:49.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003118)  
Ano po kaya ang mga measures or mechanisms na pwedeng gawin din po ng DOF?

**[02:55:54.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003119)  
Gayon, ganito nga po ang mga nangyayari.

**[02:55:56.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003120)  
We will definitely coordinate.

**[02:55:58.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003121)  
The DOF has been coordinating with the DBM.

**[02:56:01.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003122)  
But as far as mandate is concerned, we also respect the mandate of each of these agencies.

**[02:56:07.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003123)  
Our, the DOF's main mandate is really to generate income by virtue of collecting taxes.

**[02:56:13.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003124)  
When we collect taxes, Mrs. Speaker, we simply certify these amounts to DBM for them to realize that,

**[02:56:19.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003125)  
there's already that collected amount.

**[02:56:21.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003126)  
And the DBM really the one adjusting and deciding on the specific allocations as per requested by per agencies, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:56:31.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003127)  
So, yes, we really comply and we really do stand on the position that if there's a policy, especially if it's under the law,

**[02:56:41.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003128)  
that the prioritization of certain earmark revenue should go directly to a specific revenue in the case of ill health.

**[02:56:47.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003129)  
We definitely.

**[02:56:49.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003130)  
We definitely support that, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:56:52.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003131)  
Huling katanungan na lamang po, ulitin ko lang.

**[02:56:55.940] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003132)  
Can the DOF also support appropriate congressional action to ensure na yung mga amounts required po ng law natin para doon sa mga i-earmark for health are fully recognized and provided for in the national budget?

**[02:57:09.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003133)  
The Department of Finance definitely respect the power of the Congress to exercise its oversight function, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[02:57:18.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003134)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:57:20.460] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003135)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor, in closing, hindi natin pwedeng baliwalain ang matinding epekto ng funding gap sa buhay ng ating mga kababayan.

**[02:57:31.700] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003136)  
Habang buwan-buwan at walang mintis ang pagkakaltas ng PhilHealth sa sahod ng ating mga manggagawa,

**[02:57:38.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003137)  
lubhang katiting ang naipapaabot ng tulong ng gobyerno kapag sila ay nagkakasakit at nangangailangan ng pagkalinga.

**[02:57:47.040] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003138)  
Isang

**[02:57:48.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003139)  
napakabigat na kapabayaan ng Department of Finance at ng DBCC na hindi masiguro ang tamang paglaan ng sin-tax revenues para sa universal health care ayon sa itinakda ng batas.

**[02:58:02.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003140)  
Dahil sa kapabayaang ito, ang ating mga cancer patients at dialysis patients at iba pang may sakit na nawawalan na nga ng lakas na magtrabaho ay napipilitan pang manglimos, mangutang, at lumapit sa kung sino-sinong opisyal.

**[02:58:18.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003141)  
para lang makumpleto ang pambayad sa hospital bills.

**[02:58:22.400] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003142)  
Buhay at kaligtasan ng mamamayan ang nakataya rito,

**[02:58:26.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003143)  
kaya marapat lamang na itama ang pondong ito upang mabigyan ng buo

**[02:58:31.560] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003144)  
at naayon sa batas ang perang nakalaan para sa kalusugan ng bawat Pilipino.

**[02:58:37.740] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003145)  
Mr. Speaker, I will, in the proper time, propose budget amendments

**[02:58:41.900] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003146)  
so that the shortfall for the earmarks be fully recognized and provided in the national budget.

**[02:58:47.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-003147)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:58:49.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003148)  
Maraming salamat din po.

**[02:58:51.420] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-003149)  
Thank you very much, Representative Ismula, Majority Leader.

**[02:58:55.120] Rep. De Carlo L. Uy** (asr-003150)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpolate the sponsor,

**[02:58:57.800] Rep. De Carlo L. Uy** (asr-003151)  
I move to recognize Representative Robert Nazal of Partylist BH.

**[02:59:03.500] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-003152)  
The gentleman from BH Partylist, Ms. Congressman Robert Nazal, is recognized.

**[02:59:08.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-003153)  
Sir, you have the floor and you may proceed.

**[02:59:17.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003154)  
Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.

**[02:59:27.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003155)  
Good afternoon to our distinguished sponsor and good afternoon to the DOF.

**[02:59:32.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003156)  
Mr. Speaker, through you, may I ask our distinguished colleague to confirm with the Secretary of Finance,

**[02:59:41.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003157)  
is DOF aware that Section 11 of Republic Act No. 7722,

**[02:59:46.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003158)  
expressly provides that the Commission shall appoint a reputable government financial institution

**[02:59:54.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003159)  
as portfolio manager of the Fund.

**[02:59:57.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003160)  
This is with regards to the HEDF.

**[03:00:00.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003161)  
Yet, Executive Order No. 338, Series of 1996, which directs the transfer of public money to the Treasury, has been cited as the basis for the present arrangement.

**[03:00:18.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003162)  
How does that arrangement comply with the laws requirement for a government financial institution to manage the HEDF portfolio?

**[03:00:26.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003163)  
Mr. Speaker, let us state for the record, an Executive Order cannot amend or supersede an Act of Congress.

**[03:00:37.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003164)  
E.O. 338 cannot be invoked to disregard Section 11 of Republic Act 7722.

**[03:00:46.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003165)  
If the required portfolio management arrangement has been displaced, that is non-compliance with the law.

**[03:00:53.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003166)  
So, ang tanong ko po,

**[03:00:55.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003167)  
now that this requirement has been brought squarely to DOF's attention,

**[03:01:00.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003168)  
what corrective action will it take together with CHED and DBM,

**[03:01:05.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003169)  
and what date will compliance to the law be ensured?

**[03:01:10.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003170)  
Mr. Speaker, again, apologies if this is just brought out in the open.

**[03:01:17.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003171)  
I think the Department of Finance was trying to look at it, this particular law,

**[03:01:21.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003172)  
with specific provision cited by the Good.

**[03:01:25.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003173)  
The gentleman, Congressman Nazal.

**[03:01:27.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003174)  
We will look into it.

**[03:01:31.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003175)  
We have been raising this, Distinguished Sponsor, since 2025.

**[03:01:36.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003176)  
Ang CHED po, alam po nila yan.

**[03:01:39.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003177)  
So, ang tanong ko po, sumulat po ba ang CHED sa DOF, sa DBM, with regards to this?

**[03:01:45.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003178)  
Allow me first to give time for the Department of Finance to turn over the documents, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:01:51.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003179)  
If I may be allowed, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:01:55.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003180)  
Mr. Speaker, may we request for a few-minute suspension?

**[03:02:00.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003181)  
Mr. Speaker?

**[03:02:02.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003182)  
Yeah, just to give accurate answer to Congressman Nazal.

**[03:02:06.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003183)  
Yes, please.

**[03:02:07.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003184)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[03:02:08.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003185)  
Mr. Speaker, the discussion is here.

**[03:02:14.940] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003186)  
Yes.

**[03:02:15.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003187)  
Just for a few minutes.

**[03:02:19.060] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003188)  
Session is suspended.

**[03:05:20.020] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003198)  
Session is resumed.

**[03:05:25.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003199)  
Mr. Speaker, apologies if it took a while to get the exact letter. We do confirm that there's a letter request from the Commission on Higher Education. This is in relation to the abolition of, yeah, the travel taxation. So they're requesting, in lieu of that, can they be allowed, or can the Department of Finance create a

**[03:05:55.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003200)  
trust fund for this specific collection from the travel tax to support CHED, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor. Tama ba? That's in lieu of the abolition of the travel tax, Mr. Speaker, because I believe the collectibles from the travel tax go directly to the CHED and to Department [unclear]. So, with the abolition of the travel tax,

**[03:06:25.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003201)  
ang hinihingi po ng CHED according to this letter, kung puwede pong magkaroon ng support. And then, if it's possible, let me just read to you, Mr. Speaker, the language of the letter. So, amount equivalent to no less than 3% but not more than 5% of their unimpaired surplus during the immediately preceding year. So this is the preceding year before the abolition.

**[03:06:55.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003202)  
So they are also requesting supposedly the trust fund to be created, established by the Department of Finance to support the need of the CHED.

**[03:07:12.450] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003202-split-2)  
Under a GFI?

**[03:07:14.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003202-split-3)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:07:16.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003202-split-4)  
In compliance with the law?

**[03:07:18.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003202-split-5)  
Yes, we presume that it is in compliance with that law. So they are asking, so the DOF is inclined to grant the current...

**[03:07:26.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003203)  
Wala pa, no? Okay, so it's a fund from the GFI, but the... Ma'am, sorry.

**[03:07:55.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003204)  
Mr. Speaker, sorry ha, sorry. To answer your question, yes, there was a letter request, but I will just have to read

**[03:08:25.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003205)  
for clarity and for accuracy. Read the letter of CHED to the DOF. If, Mr. Speaker, if I may be allowed. Remittances from government financial institutions under Section 10, paragraph B of Republic Act [unclear]. Government financing institutions identified and requested by the Commission may contribute to the Fund an amount equivalent to not less than 3% but not more than 5% of

**[03:08:55.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003206)  
the unimpaired surplus realized during the immediately preceding year. Further, Section 73 of Republic Act No. 9593 provides that the national government shall look for alternative funding sources for programs funded by the travel tax in the event of a phase-out of travel tax collection following the international agreements. Opening and management of trust fund. They are requesting, in relation to the receipt of the aforementioned GFI contributions and other sources specified

**[03:09:25.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003207)  
under Section 10 of RA 7722, we seek guidance on establishment and operation of a dedicated trust fund account with the Bureau of Treasury.

**[03:09:36.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003207-split-2)  
Mr. Speaker, may I interrupt my distinguished colleague? So the letter, Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, is basically about asking for an alternative to the abolition of the travel tax. Is that correct?

**[03:09:54.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003208)  
I'm sorry, Your Honor. Yes, we do confirm that there was a letter.

**[03:09:58.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003208-split-2)  
Yes. So what I'm asking basically is how do we intend to comply with the law considering po na meron pang pera under the HEDF? So the money should supposedly be in a GFI, in a government financial institution in compliance with the law. Meron pa ring pera from the travel tax na nakuha ang HEDF.

**[03:10:25.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003209)  
So ang tinatanong ko po, are we going to comply with that? Are we inclined to comply with that, na ilagay po yung pondo sa isang GFI?

**[03:10:33.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003209-split-2)  
Yes, okay, Mr. Speaker, we will comply with what the law says. Mr. Speaker, again, let me quote Section 11 just for accuracy of responding to your question. Management, Section 11, management and administration of the Higher Education Development Fund. The Fund shall be administered by the Commission,

**[03:10:54.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003210)  
meaning the CHED, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor. For sound and judicious management of the Fund, the Commission shall appoint a reputable government financial institution as portfolio manager of the Fund, subject to the following conditions. And there are several conditions, Mr. Speaker. So, in a nutshell, Mr. Speaker, it is the CHED that actually should administer the funding, and they should also appoint and then decide who will be the manager.

**[03:11:19.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003210-split-2)  
So my basic question, distinguished sponsor, is when will this be complied with?

**[03:11:25.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003211)  
Meron na po bang concrete action on when this will happen?

**[03:11:29.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003212)  
Yeah, again, Mr. Speaker, it's based on the understanding of the DAF on the specific provision under the law.

**[03:11:37.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003213)  
It should be the CHED, Mr. Speaker, that directly...

**[03:11:42.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003214)  
But the funds are currently with the BTR.

**[03:11:45.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003215)  
You're asking if there's some money, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor?

**[03:11:47.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003216)  
Yes.

**[03:11:48.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003217)  
Yes, there is, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:11:49.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003218)  
So, what will the DOF...

**[03:11:51.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003219)  
And I think the DOF should intervene and help the CHED para makapag-comply po with the law.

**[03:12:02.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003220)  
Yes, we understand, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:12:04.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003221)  
So, we will comply with whatever is the parameter set by the law as referenced by the good gentleman, Nadal.

**[03:12:12.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003222)  
The DOF will sit down with the CHED in order to facilitate in connection with the letter

**[03:12:18.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003223)  
and as well as the provisions.

**[03:12:21.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003224)  
Under the specific law, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:12:23.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003225)  
Can we get a timeline and a commitment from DOF on when they intend to comply with this?

**[03:12:29.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003226)  
We will just have to coordinate with the Commission on Higher Education.

**[03:12:34.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003227)  
But definitely, once there will be a set-up schedule for specific coordination,

**[03:12:40.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003228)  
I can assure you, I can guarantee to you, as a sponsor of their budget,

**[03:12:46.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003229)  
I will ask the DOF to...

**[03:12:48.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003230)  
So, may I request for a written commitment?

**[03:12:50.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003231)  
Yes.

**[03:12:51.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003232)  
Yes, from the DOF?

**[03:12:52.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003233)  
We will assure the good gentleman, Congressman Nadal, that he will be informed.

**[03:12:57.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003234)  
Nazal, sorry.

**[03:13:01.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003235)  
Distinguished sponsor, Mr. Speaker, may I move to my next question?

**[03:13:05.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003236)  
I would like to go to fuel marking.

**[03:13:08.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003237)  
Mr. Speaker, through you, may I ask our distinguished colleague,

**[03:13:12.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003238)  
what independent evidence shows that fuel marking resists dilution, blending, and chemical alteration?

**[03:13:20.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003239)  
How does the current program detect fuel entering outside the formal importation and marking process?

**[03:13:28.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003240)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:13:30.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003241)  
Well, our declared import volume increased by 77%,

**[03:13:33.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003242)  
while duties and taxes collected rose by 179%, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:13:42.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003243)  
So, the annual fuel import volumes, Mr. Speaker, increased by about 11.2 billion liters.

**[03:13:48.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003244)  
Again, this is...

**[03:13:50.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003245)  
The result of that is the additional 163.54 billion in our annual collection, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:13:57.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003246)  
Have we monitored? Do we have data on magkano po yung hindi natin nakita?

**[03:14:04.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003247)  
How much was lost due to smuggling, despite the marking?

**[03:14:11.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003248)  
And the current program, are we evaluating the current program?

**[03:14:16.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003249)  
Mr. Speaker, just to respond to that, Congressman Nazal,

**[03:14:20.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003250)  
Mr. Speaker, what we can actually give you as a concrete data

**[03:14:23.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003251)  
is based on those commodities that have been nakuha or na-reprimand or na-secure

**[03:14:36.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003252)  
ng Bureau of Customs as a product of their anti-smuggling operation.

**[03:14:40.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003253)  
But as to the entirety of how much do we lose because of tax leakages through smuggling,

**[03:14:50.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003254)  
we can only give you just an approximate.

**[03:14:53.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003255)  
Pero what we can provide you is the actual seizures amount of commodities that the BOC has.

**[03:15:00.990] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003256)  
Ever since we implemented the Fuel Marking Program, since 2023 to 2024, Customs reported 142 apprehensions, 31 cases, but only from this Fuel Marking Program, only one conviction.

**[03:15:23.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003257)  
So, may I ask what are the updated convictions and actual tax risk recoveries?

**[03:15:30.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003258)  
Are inspections reaching high-risk independent stations?

**[03:15:35.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003259)  
Does the current program provide for that?

**[03:15:40.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003260)  
High-risk independent stations, depots, and vessels.

**[03:15:43.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003261)  
Where are the cases getting stuck?

**[03:15:46.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003262)  
And what will the DOF change in the current program?

**[03:16:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003263)  
Mr. Speaker, due to the adjustment from the DOJ's filing of the cases with a certainty of conviction, Mr. Speaker, the Department of, I'm sorry, the Bureau of Customs also has to review those cases,

**[03:16:30.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003264)  
adjust these filings so that they can actually reach the quantum of evidence that the DOJ is now requiring, cases filed, which is basically a certainty of conviction once they file these cases, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor. But there have been cases that have already been filed by the Bureau of Customs, Mr. Speaker, before the Department of Justice, Mr. Speaker. But some that they need also to reevaluate so that they can

**[03:17:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003265)  
refile it again, this time with ample evidences to achieve that certainty of conviction, Mr. Speaker, as requested or as defined under the new ruling of the Department of Justice, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:17:11.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003266)  
Mr. Speaker, may I ask, through the distinguished sponsor.

**[03:17:15.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003267)  
Thank you, Sir.

**[03:17:24.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003268)  
So, the Department of...

**[03:17:27.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003269)  
The number of seizures, Mr. Speaker, as...

**[03:17:30.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003270)  
As to the fuel or oil smuggling, the Bureau of Customs has already had 52 seizures amounting to an estimated value of 202...

**[03:17:48.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003271)  
202 billion...

**[03:17:52.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003272)  
202 million 51,645 and 95 centavos, to be exact.

**[03:18:00.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003273)  
In the interest of time, distinguished sponsor, may I just ask for the copy of the data?

**[03:18:04.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003274)  
Yes, yes, we will provide your copy.

**[03:18:06.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003275)  
So, distinguished sponsor, through you, Mr. Speaker, how much additional revenue is genuinely attributable to fuel marking after accounting for tax increases, oil prices, and import volumes?

**[03:18:27.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003276)  
About, Mr. Speaker, well, about...

**[03:18:29.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003277)  
Again, since we have already increased yung collection natin from 179,000 percent, so the exact amount is 163.54 billion pesos in our annual collection of gas markings, Mr....

**[03:18:44.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003278)  
And this is attributable to fuel marking?

**[03:18:48.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003279)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:18:50.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003280)  
May I ask for a full report on this?

**[03:18:53.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003281)  
Yes, we will definitely submit to you a hard copy in the study of that.

**[03:18:59.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003282)  
Projection of that collection, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:19:03.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003283)  
We received reports po that the current arrangement has been cancelled.

**[03:19:10.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003284)  
Kasi parang ang understanding ko po, binibid out po yan eh, kung sino po yung proponent, ano.

**[03:19:15.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003285)  
And now, we are transferring to a PPP arrangement.

**[03:19:23.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003286)  
So, and they are proposing a 13.44 billion.

**[03:19:28.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003287)  
The current proposal...

**[03:19:29.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003288)  
The current proposal proposes a 13.44 billion PPP arrangement.

**[03:19:34.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003289)  
May I ask, what is its cost per liter compared to the present contract?

**[03:19:40.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003290)  
And who will pay for this?

**[03:19:45.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003291)  
Mr. Speaker, as per offer, Mr. Speaker, it's 10 centavos per liter, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:19:50.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003292)  
10 centavos per liter?

**[03:19:52.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003293)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:19:52.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003294)  
So, yun po ang ipapatong for fuel marking?

**[03:19:56.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003295)  
Yes, that's correct.

**[03:19:57.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003296)  
And who will cover this?

**[03:19:59.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003297)  
Sino po ang magbabayad yan?

**[03:20:01.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003298)  
The oil companies, Mr. Speaker, yun.

**[03:20:02.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003299)  
So, it will be charged to the consumers?

**[03:20:07.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003300)  
Well, yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:20:09.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003301)  
Who is currently paying for the current arrangement?

**[03:20:14.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003302)  
The oil companies, Mr. Speaker, yun.

**[03:20:17.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003303)  
So, based on the current arrangement, binibid out po yan?

**[03:20:21.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003304)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:20:23.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003305)  
And how much is being charged currently?

**[03:20:28.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003306)  
Pp. 0.69.

**[03:20:29.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003307)  
Pp. 0.69, Mr. Speaker, yun.

**[03:20:30.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003308)  
So, bakit po tataas?

**[03:20:38.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003309)  
Yes, because of the inflation, Mr. Speaker, that also is a considerable factor kung bakit.

**[03:20:46.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003310)  
2018 kasi yung pricing, yung time na yun.

**[03:20:50.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003311)  
So, mayroon pong effect ng inflation, Mr. Speaker, yung honor.

**[03:20:55.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003312)  
Based on the current results, ever since we started implementing this,

**[03:20:59.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003313)  
na isa lang po yung naging conviction,

**[03:21:03.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003314)  
do you think, does the DOF think that this current system is effective?

**[03:21:11.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003315)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:21:13.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003316)  
So, we had 100...

**[03:21:29.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003317)  
Yeah, Mr. Speaker, again, yes, we understand, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:21:35.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003318)  
but so far as the, you know, we're talking about smuggling here, right, Mr. Speaker, your honor?

**[03:21:45.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003319)  
Yes, yes, we understand that there is one conviction, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:21:49.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003320)  
but then again, as to the exact, what is important, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:21:53.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003321)  
if may hope that Congressman Nazal will also appreciate,

**[03:21:57.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003322)  
is the estimated...

**[03:21:58.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003323)  
value that we have seized, the Bureau of Customs has seized, which is, you know, I already gave you, Mr. Speaker, the amount.

**[03:22:06.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003357)  
Pero ito pong mga charges na ito, ongoing naman po eh.

**[03:22:09.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003358)  
Basically, distinguished sponsor, ang gusto ko lang naman pong maintindihan,

**[03:22:13.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003359)  
is are we really stopping smugglers through this fuel, through this system of fuel marking,

**[03:22:19.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003360)  
or basically, ang nangyayari lang po ba is,

**[03:22:23.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003361)  
are we mainly marking the fuel of legitimate importers who have already paid their taxes?

**[03:22:28.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003362)  
Kasi baka mamaya ang nangyayari, nag-charge lang po tayo ng additional pero hindi naman talaga naka-curb nung sistema yung pag-smuggle.

**[03:22:58.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003363)  
We can identify, we determine, and we have a concrete way of determining kung sino dapat magbabayad.

**[03:23:08.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003364)  
So, Distinguished Sponsor, does the DOF have a complete and independent technical cost-benefit and supplier integrity review?

**[03:23:19.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003365)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:23:20.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003366)  
Meron po.

**[03:23:21.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003367)  
Meron po.

**[03:23:22.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003368)  
May I ask for a copy of that?

**[03:23:24.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003369)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:23:27.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003370)  
And do we already?

**[03:23:28.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003371)  
We already have a review evaluating other possible systems kung ano po yung posibleng mas maganda.

**[03:23:42.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003372)  
Kasi my understanding is that the current provider uses halogens, halogenated compounds.

**[03:23:58.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003373)  
And ang tanong po is na-evaluate po ba natin yan?

**[03:24:03.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003374)  
Kasi ang balita po is hindi na po ito ginagamit sa Germany at sa China because it is carcinogenic.

**[03:24:11.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003375)  
I think based on the, approved naman po ng Department of Energy and DNR po yung itong ginagamit po ng ating Bureau of Customs.

**[03:24:21.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003376)  
So, ito pong Philippine Marking System natin, na-test na po ito.

**[03:24:27.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003377)  
Has this been tested?

**[03:24:27.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003378)  
Has this been tested independently for safety?

**[03:24:30.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003379)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:24:31.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003380)  
And do we have, can we have, can you provide a copy of that report?

**[03:24:34.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003381)  
We will, yes, we will provide for the copy.

**[03:24:38.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003382)  
Thank you.

**[03:24:39.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003383)  
Thank you, Mr. Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:24:42.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003384)  
I'll move to my next question.

**[03:24:46.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003385)  
Mr. Speaker, through you, what does abandoned mean for purposes of declaring savings?

**[03:24:54.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003386)  
Can a project be declared abandoned?

**[03:24:57.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003387)  
Even, even before the contract is awarded?

**[03:25:02.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003388)  
If yes, on what specific grounds?

**[03:25:07.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003389)  
It's, it's, Mr. Speaker, again, it's, it's entirely up, it's entirely a decision that has to be made by the Department of Budget and Management, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:25:19.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003390)  
Because, you know, allocation of funding,

**[03:25:22.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003391)  
especially fundings that are already obligated and has yet to be obligated.

**[03:25:30.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003461)  
Can you speak up,

**[03:25:31.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003462)  
distinguished sponsor? Sorry, hindi kita marinig.

**[03:25:33.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003463)  
again just to a short answer Mr. Speaker I think the primary agency that has that that has that mandate to answer that question Mr. Speaker with all due respect is the Department of Budget and Management because it now record it in our orders the issue of allocation fund allocation

**[03:25:52.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003464)  
yes the DOF is part of the DBCC and the DEF so in terms of policy direction we have to be clear so kailangan po clearly i-define ito

**[03:26:03.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003465)  
yeah but it has Mr. Speaker with all due respect there also is such a thing as the BBM guidelines wherein that's actually where they can draw specification um and priority as to budget allocation for agencies Mr. Speaker

**[03:26:18.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003466)  
yes but is that the DOF part of uh

**[03:26:21.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003467)  
um

**[03:26:22.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003468)  
Mr. Speaker

**[03:26:23.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003469)  
As far as Mr. Speaker as far as generating collection revenue is concerned to fund all these priorities sited by the DBM in so far as budget allocation is concerned then that's the participation Mrs. Speaker of the Department of Finance Mr. Speaker your honor

**[03:26:42.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003470)  
So you're saying that the DOF has nothing to do with this?

**[03:26:46.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003471)  
The allocation Mr. Speaker has

**[03:26:49.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003472)  
to obligated funding

**[03:26:51.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003473)  
unobligated

**[03:26:51.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003474)  
No, I understand that. But what I'm saying is, we have to, the DOF is part of creating the definitions on what savings is. The DOF is also part of policy direction.

**[03:27:07.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003475)  
Mr. Speaker, it's not the DBCC even, Mr. Speaker. It's actually the Department of Budget and Management, National Budget Circular.

**[03:27:22.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003476)  
These are the guidelines on the release of funds for every fiscal year, Mr. Speaker. So we can provide you the copy, Mr. Speaker, of this particular budget circular.

**[03:27:37.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003477)  
Okay. Let me move to my next question.

**[03:27:49.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003478)  
Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleague, has the BIR issued the circular clarifying the VAT treatment of system loss charges?

**[03:27:57.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003479)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:27:59.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003480)  
So meron na po tayong circular?

**[03:28:03.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003481)  
Meron na po, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:28:06.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003482)  
Magandang balita.

**[03:28:07.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003483)  
Magandang balita po yan. So, kailan po mag-a-apply ito sa mga billing ng ating mga consumers?

**[03:28:17.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003484)  
It will be on November, Mr. Speaker, under the ERC guidelines, as we were told, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:28:23.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003485)  
So starting November po, lahat po ng billing, wala na pong VAT on systems loss?

**[03:28:30.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003486)  
As we were told, Mr. Speaker, by the ERC.

**[03:28:33.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003487)  
Maraming salamat on that, distinguished sponsor.

**[03:28:37.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003488)  
Now, moving to my next question, Mr. Speaker, distinguished sponsor,

**[03:28:44.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003489)  
has Treasury resolved the audit finding on the absence of a formal debt management strategy?

**[03:28:53.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003490)  
Will DOF submit the approved strategy and the interest rate, exchange rate, and refinancing stress tests supporting the 2027?

**[03:29:07.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003491)  
Barrowing program.

**[03:29:14.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003492)  
Yeah.

**[03:29:19.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003493)  
Mr. Speaker, we have already published, the DOF has already published the medium term debt management strategy, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:29:27.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003494)  
and that is actually the basis of the DOF's borrowing program, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:29:33.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003495)  
So to answer the question, yes po.

**[03:29:37.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003496)  
Could you please repeat that?

**[03:29:39.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003497)  
I think in response to the question of the good gentleman, the DOF has already published the medium term debt management strategy, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:29:53.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003498)  
and that is actually the basis for the borrowing program, Mr. Speaker, that the DOF is intended to pursue.

**[03:30:00.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003499)  
So in that debt management strategy po, meron po tayong cost-benefit analysis kung alimbawa paano yung sharing ng local, saka kung yung foreign loans.

**[03:30:13.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003500)  
So we already have that.

**[03:30:14.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003501)  
Yes, meron po yan, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:30:16.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003502)  
Thank you for that, Distinguished Sponsor, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:30:22.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003503)  
My next question is for earmarked revenues.

**[03:30:26.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003504)  
Mr. Speaker, we recognize that the DOF must manage government cash and avoid unnecessary borrowing.

**[03:30:36.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003505)  
But when earmarked revenues remain with Treasury despite funding needs in PhilHealth, DICT, Bureau of Fire, and other agencies,

**[03:30:48.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003506)  
does DOF measure the financing savings against the public benefits lost through delayed releases?

**[03:30:56.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003507)  
Mr. Speaker, may I be allowed to refer to you?

**[03:31:23.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003508)  
Basically, Distinguished Sponsor, may I just add, no?

**[03:31:26.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003509)  
Does the DOF, do we compute not only the interest saved, but also the cost of delayed healthcare, lost opportunities for human capital development, and delayed improvements in digital government and public service efficiency?

**[03:31:44.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003510)  
Do we have a comparative assessment?

**[03:31:51.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003511)  
Mr. Speaker, unfortunately, the DOF doesn't get

**[03:31:56.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003512)  
into the business of studying, as what you requested, yung ano yung effect ng delayed releases, as well as yung mga interest rates.

**[03:32:11.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003513)  
I think what the DOF is mainly tasked to do is first to identify the possible revenue that we can collect through taxes, loans, and dividend interest, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:32:25.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003514)  
Is it the Bureau?

**[03:32:26.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003515)  
Is it the Bureau of Treasury under the DOF?

**[03:32:28.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003516)  
No.

**[03:32:30.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003517)  
No, Mr. Speaker, yung ano.

**[03:32:33.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003518)  
Oh, yeah, it's under the DEV-DEV, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:32:37.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003519)  
But the DOF also determines...

**[03:32:41.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003520)  
Sorry, pardon, Mr. Speaker, let me confirm.

**[03:32:44.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003521)  
You're asking about the issue on the Bureau of Treasury?

**[03:32:48.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003522)  
Yes.

**[03:32:49.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003523)  
Yes, it's still, it's an attached agency of DOF, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:32:52.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003524)  
So, if that's the case, distinguished sponsor, hindi po ba ang nangyayari, ang Bureau of...

**[03:33:00.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003548)  
So, who determines kung ano, kung kailan ginagamit po ang earmark funds?

**[03:33:05.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003549)  
Kasi, anangyayari po, the earmark funds are currently, are currently deposited with the Bureau of Treasury.

**[03:33:15.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003550)  
Tama po ba?

**[03:33:17.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003551)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, pero pagdating po doon sa actual na gastusin na per agency at saka paano po ma-allocate yung

**[03:33:25.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003552)  
gastusin for AGC, DBM po talaga

**[03:33:27.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003553)  
yun, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:33:29.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003554)  
Tsaka yung ahensya na yun.

**[03:33:31.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003555)  
So kung may mga savings po talaga,

**[03:33:33.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003556)  
of course, diretso pupunta

**[03:33:35.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003557)  
yun sa Bureau of Treasury.

**[03:33:36.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003558)  
But who determines in the Bureau of Treasury

**[03:33:39.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003559)  
kung kailan gagamitin ang alin?

**[03:33:42.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003560)  
Because ang nangyayari po,

**[03:33:44.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003561)  
earmark funds

**[03:33:44.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003562)  
which are supposedly

**[03:33:46.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003563)  
passed by law and earmarked

**[03:33:49.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003564)  
specifically for the department,

**[03:33:51.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003565)  
hindi po niya nagagamit.

**[03:33:53.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003566)  
Well, unang-una, ang implementing agency

**[03:33:55.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003567)  
po talaga, yung supposedly.

**[03:33:57.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003568)  
Ngayon, kung ito po ay bad, ito po yung kondo,

**[03:33:59.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003569)  
pardon my simple

**[03:34:01.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003570)  
illustration, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:34:03.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003571)  
Kung merong obligated funding

**[03:34:05.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003572)  
naman po ito,

**[03:34:07.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003573)  
even if it's not automatically

**[03:34:09.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003574)  
consumed by year

**[03:34:11.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003575)  
because it's multi-year, hindi po na po

**[03:34:13.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003576)  
bumabalik sa Treasury, it would continuously

**[03:34:15.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003577)  
be paid.

**[03:34:15.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003577-split-2)  
Yes, I understand. Pero ang nangyayari po,

**[03:34:18.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003578)  
pag ginamit po

**[03:34:19.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003579)  
natin ito, yung earmarked

**[03:34:21.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003580)  
funds natin,

**[03:34:23.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003581)  
kesa in you,

**[03:34:25.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003582)  
of let's say, borrowing,

**[03:34:28.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003583)  
ginagamit na po

**[03:34:29.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003584)  
natin yung pera nung

**[03:34:30.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003585)  
na earmarked for a specific

**[03:34:32.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003586)  
agency. So, kung ginamit

**[03:34:35.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003587)  
natin siya for a particular borrowing,

**[03:34:37.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003588)  
hindi ba responsibilidad

**[03:34:38.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003589)  
ng DOF yun?

**[03:34:40.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003590)  
Yes, again, Mr. Speaker, as to that

**[03:34:43.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003591)  
specific question,

**[03:34:44.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003592)  
who determines

**[03:34:45.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003593)  
itong mga

**[03:34:48.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003594)  
revenue,

**[03:34:49.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003595)  
revenue yung

**[03:34:53.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003596)  
yung

**[03:34:54.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003597)  
yung

**[03:34:54.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003598)  
hindi nagagamit,

**[03:34:56.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003599)  
I'm sorry, yung hindi nagagamit na gastusin.

**[03:34:59.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003600)  
Again, Mr. Speaker, ang pangunahin talaga

**[03:35:01.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003601)  
ho na mandato ng

**[03:35:02.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003602)  
Department of Finance ay

**[03:35:04.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003603)  
magbigay ng

**[03:35:06.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003604)  
pondo sa DBM,

**[03:35:08.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003605)  
DBM naman po talaga yung nagpaprogram

**[03:35:11.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003606)  
nito at yung implementing agency po

**[03:35:13.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003607)  
yung gumagastos. So,

**[03:35:15.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003608)  
kung hindi po yung wala pong nagastos

**[03:35:16.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003609)  
dito,

**[03:35:17.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003610)  
But who determines

**[03:35:18.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003611)  
who will borrow?

**[03:35:20.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003612)  
Who will borrow and

**[03:35:22.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003613)  
where will we borrow from?

**[03:35:24.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003614)  
So, kung ginamit po natin yung pondo

**[03:35:27.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003615)  
in lieu of borrowing,

**[03:35:29.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003616)  
hindi ba meron pong

**[03:35:30.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003617)  
meron pong servisyo na nawala

**[03:35:32.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003618)  
kung ginamit natin yung earmarked funds

**[03:35:34.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003619)  
for a specific purpose?

**[03:35:36.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003620)  
So, hindi ba DOF

**[03:35:39.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003621)  
ang nag-aaral dapat?

**[03:35:40.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003622)  
O ito, gamitin natin ito dito

**[03:35:43.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003623)  
kasi mas mura kaysa umutang.

**[03:35:46.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003624)  
Again,

**[03:35:46.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003625)  
yun po, alam na ito yung earmarked

**[03:35:48.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003626)  
revenue po, may specific na

**[03:35:50.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003627)  
pupuntahan ngayon. Kung hindi po talaga

**[03:35:52.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003628)  
maggastos yun kasi,

**[03:35:54.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003629)  
pinupondohan naman po talaga

**[03:35:56.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003630)  
at ang nag-a-allocate po ang DBM,

**[03:35:58.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003631)  
ang position po ng Department of Finance

**[03:36:00.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003632)  
dyan po ay ang implementing

**[03:36:02.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003633)  
agency. Dapat po yung

**[03:36:04.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003634)  
magde-decide kung how much

**[03:36:06.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003635)  
is needed, tapos i-request naman po yun

**[03:36:08.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003636)  
naman po talaga yung...

**[03:36:09.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003637)  
That is not true, distinguished sponsor, because the earmarked funds

**[03:36:12.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003638)  
currently may be used

**[03:36:14.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003639)  
by the government.

**[03:36:17.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003640)  
Ang nangyayari po...

**[03:36:19.500] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003641)  
You have your

**[03:36:20.540] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003642)  
30 minutes expired. Please wind up.

**[03:36:22.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003643)  
Thank you.

**[03:36:24.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003644)  
Mr. Speaker. So, ang nangyayari

**[03:36:27.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003645)  
po is hindi nga po nila nagagamit

**[03:36:29.180] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003646)  
yung earmarked funds nila. Even if they request

**[03:36:31.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003647)  
for funding from

**[03:36:33.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003648)  
their earmarked funds, hindi nila nagagamit

**[03:36:35.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003649)  
kasi ginagamit

**[03:36:36.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003650)  
sa ibang purpose.

**[03:36:39.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003651)  
At ang sinasabi sa kanila,

**[03:36:41.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003652)  
yan po ay reklamo ng

**[03:36:42.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003653)  
currently ng karamihan ng mga

**[03:36:44.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003654)  
departamento na hindi nila

**[03:36:47.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003655)  
nakukuha yung earmarked funds nila

**[03:36:49.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003656)  
dahil po ang sinasabi

**[03:36:50.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003657)  
fiscal space.

**[03:36:52.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003658)  
So, again po, DBM po talaga,

**[03:36:54.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003659)  
kasi, again, may...

**[03:36:55.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003660)  
So, even if the balance is, let's say,

**[03:36:58.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003661)  
20 billion, and they request 10 billion,

**[03:37:01.020] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003662)  
hindi po nabibigay sa kanila, kahit

**[03:37:02.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003663)  
yung Bureau of Fire nga po,

**[03:37:04.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003664)  
hindi raw nila makuha yung kanilang pondo.

**[03:37:07.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003665)  
Again, Mr. Speaker, it's the

**[03:37:08.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003666)  
DBM. Kasi parang ang Department

**[03:37:10.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003667)  
of Finance pong nagbibigay,

**[03:37:13.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003668)  
nagmake sure na mayroon pong

**[03:37:14.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003669)  
allocation, binibigay

**[03:37:17.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003670)  
po yung pondo na to,

**[03:37:18.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003671)  
nag-allocate ang DBM, at ang

**[03:37:20.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003672)  
DBM po nagbibigay sa mga implementing agency.

**[03:37:22.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003673)  
Kung may earmarked revenue po na,

**[03:37:24.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003674)  
and that particular agency, para yung

**[03:37:27.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003675)  
sa sektor na yun, again,

**[03:37:29.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003676)  
ang DBM po, ang importante

**[03:37:31.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003677)  
po ay mayroong nakolektang revenue

**[03:37:33.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003678)  
para doon po itong

**[03:37:34.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003679)  
earmarked revenue.

**[03:37:35.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003679-split-2)  
Kaya nga po tinatanong ko,

**[03:37:37.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003680)  
kung bakit,

**[03:37:39.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003681)  
kung pinag-aaralan po... I would like to remind you,

**[03:37:41.000] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003682)  
Honorable Nazal, that will be your last

**[03:37:43.420] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003683)  
question.

**[03:37:43.930] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003683-split-2)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:37:45.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003684)  
Again, yes. Kung napapag-aralan po,

**[03:37:48.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003685)  
yung nawawala

**[03:37:48.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003686)  
na paggamit nung Departamento,

**[03:37:51.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003687)  
kasi pag ginamit yung earmark nila,

**[03:37:53.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003688)  
hindi nila nabigay yung servisyo,

**[03:37:54.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003689)  
na yun, meron

**[03:37:56.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003690)  
cost po yung

**[03:37:59.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003691)  
cost na nawawala

**[03:38:01.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003692)  
doon sa mga

**[03:38:01.940] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003693)  
dapat makinabang.

**[03:38:05.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003694)  
For example, yung SUF. Kung

**[03:38:06.780] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003695)  
nawawala po yung free Wi-Fi, dahil

**[03:38:08.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003696)  
hindi po nagkakaroon ng free

**[03:38:10.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003697)  
Wi-Fi sa GIDA sites,

**[03:38:12.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003698)  
meron benefit na

**[03:38:14.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003699)  
nawawala.

**[03:38:17.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003700)  
So, kung

**[03:38:18.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003701)  
ginamit natin yun, in lieu of

**[03:38:20.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003702)  
borrowing, napapag-aralan

**[03:38:23.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003703)  
po ba ng DOF yun?

**[03:38:24.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003704)  
Yan lang, ganun naman po kasimple lang.

**[03:38:27.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003705)  
Kasi kung sasabihin natin na hindi po

**[03:38:29.220] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003706)  
yung responsibilidad ng DOF yan,

**[03:38:31.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003707)  
eh may problema tayo.

**[03:38:33.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003708)  
Mr. Speaker, sinasabi lang po natin yung

**[03:38:35.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003709)  
mandato, bulto po yung binibigay

**[03:38:37.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003710)  
ng DOF, the pondo na nakukuha,

**[03:38:39.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003711)  
ang DBM po ang nag-allocate.

**[03:38:41.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003712)  
Ngayon, kung meron pong specific na gustong

**[03:38:43.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003713)  
request, may proseso naman po yan, kasi

**[03:38:45.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003714)  
may guide lang naman po

**[03:38:47.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003715)  
ang DBM, nagre-request po yung

**[03:38:48.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003716)  
implementing agency ng kanilang pondo

**[03:38:50.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003717)  
na nandoon po sa Bureau of Treasury.

**[03:38:52.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003718)  
Ganun po ata sa pagkakaintindi

**[03:38:54.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003719)  
ko kung paano po i-release itong mga pera na to

**[03:38:56.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003720)  
doon sa paggabitan ng airmark

**[03:38:58.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003721)  
revenue, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:39:00.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003722)  
So ang hinihingi lang po natin sana pag-aralan.

**[03:39:02.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003723)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Sponsor.

**[03:39:04.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003724)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:39:05.180] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003725)  
Thank you, Honorable Nazal.

**[03:39:06.560] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-003726)  
Mr. Speaker, next to interpellate

**[03:39:10.840] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-003727)  
the sponsor, I move

**[03:39:13.000] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-003728)  
to recognize Representative

**[03:39:14.600] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-003729)  
Jesus Bong Suntay of the 4th

**[03:39:16.800] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-003730)  
District, Quezon City.

**[03:39:18.580] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003731)  
Honorable Bong Suntay is recognized.

**[03:39:20.800] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-003732)  
Please proceed.

**[03:39:21.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003733)  
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:39:24.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003734)  
Thank you, Mr. Sponsor.

**[03:39:26.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003735)  
Well, for fiscal year

**[03:39:27.980] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003736)  
2027,

**[03:39:30.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003737)  
it presupposes an obligation budget

**[03:39:32.460] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003738)  
of 7.2 trillion. The government,

**[03:39:34.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003739)  
however, projects only 5.2

**[03:39:36.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003740)  
trillion in revenues and around

**[03:39:38.380] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003741)  
6.9 trillion in

**[03:39:40.420] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003742)  
actual cash disbursement.

**[03:39:42.620] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003743)  
The difference between the projected revenues

**[03:39:44.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003744)  
and

**[03:39:46.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003745)  
cash disbursement is

**[03:39:48.160] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003746)  
a program fiscal deficit

**[03:39:50.360] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003747)  
of around 1.69

**[03:39:52.980] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003748)  
trillion, equivalent to

**[03:39:54.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003749)  
5.1 trillion of the

**[03:39:56.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003750)  
GDP.

**[03:39:59.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003751)  
So,

**[03:40:01.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003752)  
ang proposed budget is 7.2

**[03:40:02.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003753)  
trillion, but the revenues

**[03:40:04.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003754)  
to be collected is 5.2 trillion.

**[03:40:07.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003755)  
So, merong

**[03:40:08.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003756)  
kakulangan. Later on,

**[03:40:10.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003757)  
I will ask how we will bridge it.

**[03:40:13.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003758)  
Dun muna tayo sa

**[03:40:14.360] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003759)  
5.2 trillion.

**[03:40:16.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003760)  
What is the principal component of

**[03:40:18.620] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003761)  
this revenue target?

**[03:40:20.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003762)  
The sources and respective shares

**[03:40:22.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003763)  
of total revenue.

**[03:40:24.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003764)  
The breakdown, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:40:35.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003765)  
is from

**[03:40:36.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003766)  
tax revenue,

**[03:40:41.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003767)  
it's 4.851

**[03:40:43.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003768)  
billion pesos.

**[03:40:45.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003769)  
And from the

**[03:40:46.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003770)  
non-tax revenue, it's

**[03:40:49.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003771)  
354.5

**[03:40:51.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003772)  
billion pesos, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:40:53.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003773)  
Your Honor.

**[03:40:53.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003774)  
So,

**[03:40:54.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003775)  
BIR, tax revenues,

**[03:41:00.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003776)  
4.8?

**[03:41:01.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003777)  
Yes, tax revenues is

**[03:41:02.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003778)  
4,800

**[03:41:04.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003779)  
4.8 billion.

**[03:41:06.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003780)  
I'm sorry, 4.8

**[03:41:08.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003781)  
4.851

**[03:41:11.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003782)  
trillion.

**[03:41:13.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003783)  
A billion.

**[03:41:13.980] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003784)  
This comes from which particular department?

**[03:41:16.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003785)  
I suppose BIR and BOC.

**[03:41:18.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003786)  
I suppose it's a combination of

**[03:41:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003787)  
BOC and BIR.

**[03:41:21.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003788)  
Ano yung respective share from

**[03:41:23.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003789)  
BIR and BOC?

**[03:41:26.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003790)  
3.7 BIR, 1.1

**[03:41:29.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003791)  
from BOC.

**[03:41:31.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003792)  
Okay, so, BIR and BOC together

**[03:41:33.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003793)  
are therefore expected to collect

**[03:41:34.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003794)  
approximately 4.8 trillion

**[03:41:37.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003795)  
or 92.4% of all

**[03:41:39.440] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003796)  
of the total national government

**[03:41:41.320] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003797)  
revenues.

**[03:41:43.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003798)  
So, the fiscal program

**[03:41:45.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003799)  
is highly dependent on the performance

**[03:41:47.160] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003800)  
of these two agencies.

**[03:41:48.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003801)  
That's correct, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:41:49.580] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003802)  
Okay, what economic assumptions

**[03:41:51.620] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003803)  
would support

**[03:41:53.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003804)  
this projection?

**[03:41:54.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003805)  
Ano yung GDP growth assumptions na ginamit?

**[03:41:57.140] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003806)  
Inflation assumptions na ginamit?

**[03:41:58.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003807)  
Peso to dollar exchange?

**[03:42:00.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003808)  
What other macroeconomic assumptions

**[03:42:02.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003809)  
was used na maaabot nitong dalawang

**[03:42:04.620] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003810)  
ahensya yung target?

**[03:42:10.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003811)  
Mr. Speaker, allow me first to refer to the data.

**[03:42:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003812)  
So, Mr. Speaker, all the macroeconomic

**[03:42:32.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003813)  
assumptions, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:42:34.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003814)  
are coming from other agencies as well.

**[03:42:36.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003815)  
The DEVDEV,

**[03:42:38.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003816)  
the BSP,

**[03:42:40.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003817)  
and NEDA. So, I'll just give you

**[03:42:42.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003818)  
the breakdown.

**[03:42:44.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003819)  
So, the projection from

**[03:42:45.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003820)  
2025,

**[03:42:49.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003821)  
sorry,

**[03:42:50.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003822)  
2027,

**[03:42:52.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003823)  
is,

**[03:42:53.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003824)  
is 33 point,

**[03:42:56.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003825)  
okay,

**[03:42:58.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003826)  
33,000 billion.

**[03:43:03.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003827)  
And nominal

**[03:43:04.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003828)  
GDP growth rate is about

**[03:43:06.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003829)  
9.13%.

**[03:43:09.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003830)  
And the real

**[03:43:10.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003831)  
GDP in this, in peso,

**[03:43:13.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003832)  
25 billion,

**[03:43:15.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003833)  
25,000

**[03:43:16.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003834)  
billion.

**[03:43:17.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003835)  
Ha? Mali yata?

**[03:43:20.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003836)  
Tama.

**[03:43:21.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003837)  
25,000 billion, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:43:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003838)  
I'm also, I'm also shocked about,

**[03:43:27.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003839)  
I didn't know there's a thousand

**[03:43:30.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003840)  
and also in swell is a billion.

**[03:43:33.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003841)  
So,

**[03:43:33.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003842)  
but according to the

**[03:43:35.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003843)  
DEVDEV, we are reading the exact figure.

**[03:43:37.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003844)  
So, the base real

**[03:43:39.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003845)  
GDP growth rate is about

**[03:43:41.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003846)  
5.29%.

**[03:43:43.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003847)  
And

**[03:43:45.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003848)  
the inflation rate is

**[03:43:46.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003849)  
4.0% up to

**[03:43:49.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003850)  
5.0%.

**[03:43:52.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003851)  
Dubai crude oil,

**[03:43:53.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003852)  
this is in dollars,

**[03:43:56.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003853)  
is 70 to 90

**[03:43:57.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003854)  
per liter.

**[03:44:01.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003855)  
$90 per liter.

**[03:44:03.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003856)  
And then,

**[03:44:03.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003857)  
364 day,

**[03:44:05.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003858)  
the T-bill rate is about

**[03:44:07.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003859)  
5.5%

**[03:44:10.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003860)  
to 6%.

**[03:44:11.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003861)  
And then, the exchange rate

**[03:44:13.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003862)  
from US to peso

**[03:44:15.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003863)  
is about 60 to 62,

**[03:44:18.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003864)  
62 pesos.

**[03:44:20.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003865)  
Again, goods exports growth is

**[03:44:21.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003866)  
about 4.

**[03:44:23.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003867)  
percent. And then, the goods imports growth is about 5%.

**[03:44:26.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003868)  
Mr. Speaker, you are now.

**[03:44:27.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003869)  
So, these are the macroeconomic assumptions,

**[03:44:30.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003870)  
not just the DOF that has

**[03:44:32.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003871)  
arrived into this, but as well as other agencies.

**[03:44:34.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003872)  
Okay. The reason why I'm asking

**[03:44:36.240] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003873)  
is because these assumptions matter.

**[03:44:38.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003874)  
Because BIR collections respond

**[03:44:39.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003875)  
principally to domestic income,

**[03:44:42.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003876)  
consumption, profits, and prices.

**[03:44:44.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003877)  
While customs revenues are

**[03:44:46.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003878)  
also affected by import volumes,

**[03:44:48.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003879)  
commodity prices, and peso

**[03:44:50.240] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003880)  
value of imports.

**[03:44:53.000] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003881)  
Now,

**[03:44:53.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003882)  
how vulnerable

**[03:44:54.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003883)  
is our revenue target?

**[03:44:58.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003884)  
Considering that

**[03:44:59.000] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003885)  
uh,

**[03:45:00.000] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003886)  
ang GDP na binigay nyo, you're assuming that it's 5.2, but we are currently 2.8.

**[03:45:11.140] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003887)  
Kasi, for example, kaya ako tinatanong ha, if GDP growth is 1 percentage point below the government's assumption, how much revenue will be lost? Computing nyo.

**[03:45:21.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003888)  
Yeah, Mr. Speaker, again, we understand that there will be losses along the way, but again, the simple answer is that we also need to improve on the collection, capability, and efficiency of our two major revenue collecting agencies under the DOF, which is the BOC and the BIR.

**[03:45:40.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003889)  
So, we understand also in order to come up and to compensate with our possible losses, I think these are the things that we also need to be conscious about.

**[03:45:49.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003890)  
Improving the tax policy.

**[03:45:51.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003891)  
Collections from these two agencies, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:45:54.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003892)  
Now, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, the reason why I feel that this is very sensitive and kailangan natin itong malaman, because sa ating budget expenditure and source of funding for fiscal year 2027, kita mo,

**[03:46:14.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003893)  
ang assumption is, 1 percentage point increase in real GDP growth adds approximately 38.8 billion.

**[03:46:21.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003894)  
And revenues, paka yung assumption is correct.

**[03:46:25.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003895)  
Pero, if there is a 1 percentage point increase in inflation naman, adds approximately 36 billion.

**[03:46:33.980] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003896)  
And inversely, yun rin yung mawawala sa'yo if you are of the target.

**[03:46:40.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003897)  
So, the government official revenue forecast is already within 5.6 target range.

**[03:46:46.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003898)  
If one uses the midpoint of 5.5%, merely as analytical reference.

**[03:46:52.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003901)  
5.0 growth would imply roughly 19.4 billion less revenues, pagka hindi natin inabot.

**[03:46:59.780] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003902)  
Pagka ang GDP natin goes to 4.5, it means there would be 38 billion in decreased revenue.

**[03:47:10.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003903)  
So, it's very, our budget is very vulnerable.

**[03:47:15.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003904)  
Ano yung, ano ngayon yung...

**[03:47:21.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003905)  
measures that we have to protect us from this vulnerability.

**[03:47:41.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003906)  
Again, Mr. Speaker, we understand also that in terms of the comprehensive understanding of possible losses

**[03:47:48.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003907)  
and what are the gains in terms of the inflation,

**[03:47:51.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003908)  
we understand also that this is not entirely within the domestic constraint

**[03:47:54.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003909)  
or dictated by our domestic local trade,

**[03:47:57.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003910)  
but this is also being decided upon and dictated by the international market.

**[03:48:01.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003911)  
So, again, as what the DOF is saying,

**[03:48:05.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003912)  
we always go back to compensate those shocks, possible shocks,

**[03:48:09.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003913)  
by way of improving the collection, tax collection,

**[03:48:13.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003914)  
by both these two major agencies, the Bureau of Customs and Bureau of...

**[03:48:20.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003915)  
and the Commission.

**[03:48:21.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003916)  
BIR, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:48:23.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003917)  
So, we understand, Mr. Speaker, the concern of the good gentleman,

**[03:48:27.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003918)  
but that is actually how the DOF is trying to project possible losses

**[03:48:31.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003919)  
in order to compensate these losses by these shocks,

**[03:48:37.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003920)  
as evidently by the inflation rate that is continuously getting high.

**[03:48:41.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003921)  
Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor, the reason why I'm asking

**[03:48:45.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003922)  
is because we are asking for a much higher national budget.

**[03:48:51.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003923)  
The budget proposal is 7.2 billion.

**[03:48:54.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003924)  
And our economic backdrop is not as rosy as what we would have wanted it to be.

**[03:49:01.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003925)  
For 2027, the assumptions follow a period

**[03:49:04.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003926)  
which economic growth had already slowed.

**[03:49:08.660] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003927)  
We had 5.7 real growth in 2024, 4.4% in 2025,

**[03:49:14.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003928)  
and 2.6 year-on-year on the first half of 2026.

**[03:49:18.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003929)  
So,

**[03:49:21.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003930)  
if you compare that, from 2024,

**[03:49:24.360] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003931)  
2024, it's almost half already.

**[03:49:27.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003932)  
Considering also that PSA also reported that gross capital formation

**[03:49:30.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003933)  
contracted by 9.2% in the second quarter,

**[03:49:36.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003934)  
while the industry sector contracted by 2.4%.

**[03:49:40.860] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003935)  
How household consumption...

**[03:49:43.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003936)  
How household consumption, the economy's principal demand component,

**[03:49:49.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003937)  
because we have a...

**[03:49:51.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003938)  
Consumption economy grew by only 2.8%.

**[03:49:55.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003939)  
So, parang, with this economic backdrop,

**[03:50:00.220] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003940)  
parang, and yung projection natin,

**[03:50:02.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003941)  
the parameters that we used,

**[03:50:05.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003942)  
sigura parang malamang hindi natin maaabot itong

**[03:50:08.400] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003943)  
5.2 trillion na revenue target natin.

**[03:50:13.580] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003944)  
So, what concrete economic activity

**[03:50:16.860] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003945)  
will produce the acceleration assumed

**[03:50:20.300] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003946)  
for the second half of 2026?

**[03:50:21.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003947)  
for the second half of 2026?

**[03:50:24.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003948)  
And then propel the country to further accelerate

**[03:50:28.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003949)  
to 5.6% growth in 2027?

**[03:50:33.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003950)  
Yeah, Mr. Speaker, we are also not only trying to broader our tax base,

**[03:50:40.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003951)  
the possible taxes that we can actually generate from,

**[03:50:43.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003952)  
but I think the Department of Finance is also trying to be active

**[03:50:47.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003953)  
and be aggressive about the revenue.

**[03:50:51.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003954)  
and be aggressive about the revenue collection, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:50:54.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003955)  
Meaning to say, there are about how many identified assets

**[03:50:58.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003956)  
that I think the government and the DOF would want also to sell.

**[03:51:03.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003957)  
This would also to compensate the much needed growth

**[03:51:08.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003958)  
that we are projecting in the coming years.

**[03:51:11.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003959)  
In fact, Mr. Speaker, we have the asset,

**[03:51:15.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003960)  
just to give you a sight, I'm telling you kung paano po natin papalaguin

**[03:51:20.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003961)  
o mas

**[03:51:21.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003969)  
malaki po yung ma-generate natin na

**[03:51:23.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003970)  
revenue.

**[03:51:25.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003971)  
Apart from yung broadening the

**[03:51:27.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003972)  
tax-based collection.

**[03:51:29.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003973)  
Mayroon pong asset yung mile long.

**[03:51:31.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003974)  
This is 22 square meters in Legazpi

**[03:51:33.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003975)  
Village, which

**[03:51:34.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003976)  
the proceeds would, it's about

**[03:51:37.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003977)  
10.11,

**[03:51:39.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003978)  
111 billion pesos.

**[03:51:41.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003979)  
Also, the FTI

**[03:51:43.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003980)  
to privatize also. This is

**[03:51:45.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003981)  
110 square meters

**[03:51:47.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003982)  
to be privatized.

**[03:51:49.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003983)  
And this is about 22

**[03:51:50.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003984)  
.808

**[03:51:53.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003985)  
million

**[03:51:53.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003986)  
pesos.

**[03:51:57.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003987)  
And there are also the shares of our SLEX.

**[03:52:00.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003988)  
20% of equity,

**[03:52:01.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003989)  
which is about

**[03:52:01.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003990)  
724,

**[03:52:05.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003991)  
995 shares.

**[03:52:06.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003992)  
So that's roughly about additional

**[03:52:08.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003993)  
34.21. I'm sorry,

**[03:52:10.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003994)  
24

**[03:52:11.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003995)  
802 million in addition to

**[03:52:15.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003996)  
the possible equity

**[03:52:17.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003997)  
shares that we will be

**[03:52:18.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003998)  
getting. And as

**[03:52:20.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-003999)  
well as, mayroon pong share,

**[03:52:22.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004000)  
equity share from SEMIRARA,

**[03:52:25.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004001)  
which is

**[03:52:26.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004002)  
3.42% of equity.

**[03:52:28.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004003)  
That's roughly about

**[03:52:30.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004004)  
145,609

**[03:52:33.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004005)  
pesos, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:52:35.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004006)  
So these are some of the things

**[03:52:36.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004007)  
that we also, that the OF intends

**[03:52:38.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004008)  
also to aggressively

**[03:52:40.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004009)  
source out

**[03:52:42.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004010)  
from the revenue

**[03:52:44.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004011)  
that we will get, but the non-taxed revenue

**[03:52:46.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004012)  
that we will be getting. And as well as,

**[03:52:48.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004013)  
Mr. Speaker, because collection,

**[03:52:50.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004014)  
it does not only necessarily mean

**[03:52:52.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004015)  
effectiveness, but you also have

**[03:52:54.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004016)  
to fight, for example,

**[03:52:57.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004017)  
tax leakages

**[03:52:58.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004018)  
by form of smuggling,

**[03:53:00.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004019)  
by form of non-tax

**[03:53:02.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004020)  
avoidance, non-payment

**[03:53:04.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004021)  
of taxes. So, Mr.

**[03:53:06.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004022)  
Speaker, there's also that

**[03:53:08.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004023)  
there's also that

**[03:53:10.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004024)  
you know, there's also that

**[03:53:14.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004025)  
initiative to

**[03:53:16.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004026)  
fully digitalize, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:53:18.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004027)  
and modernize the BIR collection.

**[03:53:20.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004028)  
This is

**[03:53:20.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004029)  
Also in compliance with the ease of doing

**[03:53:22.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004030)  
business, as well as to make sure

**[03:53:24.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004031)  
that the Bureau of Customs would

**[03:53:26.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004032)  
have the necessary equipments to modernize

**[03:53:28.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004033)  
their scanning device in order to fight

**[03:53:30.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004034)  
the smuggling. So these are part of

**[03:53:32.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004035)  
the overall

**[03:53:33.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004036)  
plan, Mr. Speaker,

**[03:53:36.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004037)  
of the OF to compensate and to keep

**[03:53:38.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004038)  
on the targeted, the projected

**[03:53:40.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004039)  
revenue

**[03:53:42.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004040)  
that we will collect over the years, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:53:44.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004041)  
Now, as you

**[03:53:46.360] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004042)  
mentioned, ito yung bangiging

**[03:53:48.400] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004043)  
course of action

**[03:53:49.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004044)  
ng

**[03:53:50.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004045)  
ating mga collecting agency

**[03:53:51.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004046)  
ng Department of Finance.

**[03:53:54.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004047)  
First, broadening the tax base

**[03:53:56.140] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004048)  
and then

**[03:53:57.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004049)  
pagbibenta ng asset.

**[03:54:00.180] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004050)  
And then we have a

**[03:54:01.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004051)  
145 million shares sa Merara.

**[03:54:04.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004052)  
Parang, hindi ba nakakanebiyos

**[03:54:06.180] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004053)  
yun? Unang-una, to broaden

**[03:54:07.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004054)  
the tax base, lower

**[03:54:10.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004055)  
growth directly threatens the revenue collection.

**[03:54:12.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004056)  
Taxes are generally

**[03:54:13.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004057)  
generated by economic activity,

**[03:54:16.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004058)  
income, corporate profits, consumption,

**[03:54:18.300] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004059)  
transactions, and importation.

**[03:54:20.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004060)  
The only way that you could broaden

**[03:54:22.320] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004061)  
yung tax base is by

**[03:54:23.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004062)  
having a

**[03:54:25.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004063)  
better

**[03:54:28.840] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004064)  
economic growth.

**[03:54:29.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004065)  
If the government can help

**[03:54:32.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004066)  
pump-prime the economy, or if

**[03:54:34.040] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004067)  
there would be more investors coming in.

**[03:54:36.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004068)  
Pero, then you

**[03:54:38.160] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004069)  
generate, you broaden the

**[03:54:40.140] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004070)  
tax base by,

**[03:54:41.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004071)  
in a more healthier manner, dahil

**[03:54:43.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004072)  
mas pinalaki mo yung ekonomiya.

**[03:54:46.460] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004073)  
Pero pagka hindi naman lumaki yung

**[03:54:48.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004074)  
ekonomiya, by these new investments coming in,

**[03:54:50.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004075)  
by new investors, new

**[03:54:52.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004076)  
investment being made

**[03:54:54.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004077)  
in our country, kung ang

**[03:54:56.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004078)  
pagtaas lang ng revenue

**[03:54:58.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004079)  
is from efficient tax

**[03:55:00.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004080)  
collection, matagal na nating ginagawa yan,

**[03:55:02.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004081)  
but it can only bring your

**[03:55:04.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004082)  
revenues to a certain

**[03:55:06.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004083)  
point. Hindi pa rin

**[03:55:08.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004084)  
aabot tayo.

**[03:55:10.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004085)  
So...

**[03:55:11.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004086)  
Yeah, Mr. Speaker, I guess

**[03:55:13.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004087)  
we have already identified

**[03:55:16.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004088)  
as a form of response

**[03:55:18.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004089)  
to the earlier interpolators na meron pong

**[03:55:19.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004090)  
70% na benchmark po

**[03:55:21.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004091)  
ang International Monitoring

**[03:55:23.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004092)  
Team, kung masasabi po natin na talagang

**[03:55:25.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004093)  
nasa patagilid ang ating ekonomiya.

**[03:55:27.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004094)  
I think with the 5... 54%,

**[03:55:29.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004095)  
Mr. Speaker, of

**[03:55:31.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004096)  
rate, that's the reason

**[03:55:33.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004097)  
why medyo maganda po yung ating

**[03:55:35.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004098)  
credit rating at yung mga investors po ay pumupunta

**[03:55:37.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004099)  
dito. Because we have

**[03:55:39.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004100)  
that capability of

**[03:55:41.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004101)  
paying, you know,

**[03:55:43.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004102)  
mga loans, etc. I mean, I'm saying this,

**[03:55:45.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004103)  
Mr. Speaker, is because ito po

**[03:55:47.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004104)  
yung ganitong karakter, nag-aad, nag-aad,

**[03:55:49.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004105)  
po ito doon sa international standing

**[03:55:51.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004106)  
natin, at nag-aad po dito

**[03:55:53.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004107)  
doon sa attractability

**[03:55:55.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004108)  
ng ating mga investors,

**[03:55:57.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004109)  
Mr. Speaker, na pupunta po sa ating bansa.

**[03:55:59.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004110)  
Yes.

**[03:56:01.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004111)  
But, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor,

**[03:56:03.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004112)  
but that is precisely the problem. You

**[03:56:05.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004113)  
mentioned about attracting foreign investors.

**[03:56:07.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004114)  
I'm sure that the Department of

**[03:56:09.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004115)  
Finance will tell you that

**[03:56:11.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004116)  
the direct foreign investment natin

**[03:56:13.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004117)  
has actually

**[03:56:15.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004118)  
dropped from

**[03:56:17.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004119)  
2024 to 2026. We

**[03:56:19.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004120)  
have dropped by

**[03:56:21.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004121)  
almost a third.

**[03:56:25.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004122)  
So, meaning to say,

**[03:56:27.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004123)  
kung yun yung inaasahan natin,

**[03:56:29.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004124)  
wala yun.

**[03:56:31.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004125)  
Pagka sinabi naman natin

**[03:56:33.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004126)  
yung current

**[03:56:35.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004127)  
economic

**[03:56:37.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004128)  
outlook,

**[03:56:39.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004129)  
GDP is 2.3%.

**[03:56:43.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004130)  
Parehong mababa yun. So,

**[03:56:45.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004131)  
kaya ako binabanggit because

**[03:56:47.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004132)  
the

**[03:56:49.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004133)  
problem carries

**[03:56:51.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004134)  
towards 2027. Government is

**[03:56:53.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004135)  
counting on revenues rising from

**[03:56:55.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004136)  
4.8 trillion in 2026

**[03:56:57.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004137)  
to 5.2 trillion in 2027.

**[03:56:59.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004138)  
An increase of about

**[03:57:01.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004139)  
400 billion. If the economic

**[03:57:03.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004140)  
base entering 2027 is weaker

**[03:57:05.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004141)  
than assumed,

**[03:57:07.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004142)  
what would be the government's course

**[03:57:09.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004143)  
of action? Kasi,

**[03:57:11.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004144)  
kasi hindi,

**[03:57:13.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004145)  
bukod sa 7.2 trillion

**[03:57:15.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004146)  
na yung ating

**[03:57:17.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004147)  
budget proposal,

**[03:57:19.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004148)  
ang kaya lang natin

**[03:57:21.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004149)  
na i-generate na

**[03:57:23.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004150)  
revenue is 5.2.

**[03:57:25.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004151)  
So, short na kagad tayo ng 2 billion.

**[03:57:27.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004152)  
Pagka yung 5.2 pa,

**[03:57:29.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004153)  
hindi ma-iabot, hindi

**[03:57:31.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004154)  
natin ma-achieve, mas malaking problema.

**[03:57:35.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004155)  
Yeah, we understand, Mr. Speaker.

**[03:57:37.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004156)  
Actually, Mr. Speaker, this is just

**[03:57:39.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004157)  
an ongoing assessment kasi we're trying to

**[03:57:41.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004158)  
project for the possible, based

**[03:57:43.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004159)  
on the NEP talaga, may meron talagang kulang.

**[03:57:45.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004160)  
But again, apart from

**[03:57:47.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004161)  
the solution that

**[03:57:49.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004162)  
we are, that the DOF

**[03:57:51.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004163)  
is trying to formulate, kasi

**[03:57:53.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004164)  
quarterly, nag-me-meet naman po, again,

**[03:57:55.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004165)  
this is not only a DOF's

**[03:57:57.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004166)  
concern, it also involves our other

**[03:57:59.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004167)  
agencies involved in fiscal, in

**[03:58:01.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004168)  
managing our fiscal situation,

**[03:58:03.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004169)  
Mr. Speaker. So, the DBCC meets

**[03:58:05.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004170)  
quarterly naman po to discuss

**[03:58:07.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004171)  
about how to

**[03:58:09.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004172)  
really assist

**[03:58:11.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004173)  
and make sure

**[03:58:13.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004174)  
that the macroeconomic assumptions

**[03:58:15.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004175)  
will be the targets, will be

**[03:58:17.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004176)  
achieved, and will be, ano,

**[03:58:19.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004177)  
can be

**[03:58:21.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004178)  
obtained, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:58:23.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004179)  
So, as I've mentioned, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[03:58:25.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004180)  
based on the macro assumptions, meron nga po tayong

**[03:58:27.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004181)  
possible

**[03:58:29.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004182)  
na mga incomes

**[03:58:33.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004183)  
na mga po pwede po nating,

**[03:58:35.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004184)  
anibawa, yung

**[03:58:37.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004185)  
growth rate po, Mr. Speaker, as I've cited

**[03:58:39.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004186)  
earlier po. So, regularly po

**[03:58:41.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004187)  
nag-me-meet ang ating DBCC para

**[03:58:43.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004188)  
makita kung ano yung

**[03:58:45.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004189)  
achievable dito po sa mga micro

**[03:58:47.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004190)  
economic assumptions po natin

**[03:58:49.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004191)  
para po doon sa

**[03:58:51.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004192)  
kinakailangan pang

**[03:58:53.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004193)  
pagkunan ng revenue

**[03:58:55.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004194)  
para ma-reach po natin yung

**[03:58:57.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004195)  
necessary expenditures ng ating government

**[03:58:59.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004196)  
as versus doon sa actual

**[03:59:01.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004197)  
collection po natin na nakukuha,

**[03:59:03.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004198)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[03:59:04.780] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004198-split-2)  
Okay,

**[03:59:05.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004199)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, ito

**[03:59:07.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004200)  
kasi yung ano, and this is where I'm coming from,

**[03:59:09.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004201)  
for 2027 government

**[03:59:11.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004202)  
presently programs

**[03:59:13.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004203)  
5.2 trillion

**[03:59:15.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004204)  
revenues, as mentioned earlier,

**[03:59:17.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004205)  
pero meron tayong disbursements na

**[03:59:19.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004206)  
6.9 trillion.

**[03:59:21.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004207)  
So, yun pa lang, there would be a budget

**[03:59:23.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004208)  
deficit of 1.69

**[03:59:25.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004209)  
trillion.

**[03:59:27.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004210)  
That this deficit is already 5.1

**[03:59:29.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004211)  
of projected GDP.

**[03:59:31.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004212)  
Weak growth creates pressure

**[03:59:33.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004213)  
from both directions. First,

**[03:59:35.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004214)  
revenues can underperform. Second,

**[03:59:37.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004215)  
the denominator to GDP

**[03:59:39.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004216)  
is smaller than expected.

**[03:59:41.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004217)  
So, what will happen to the

**[03:59:43.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004218)  
expenditure program of the

**[03:59:45.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004219)  
government when the

**[03:59:47.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004220)  
macro assumptions which we are using

**[03:59:49.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004221)  
fails?

**[03:59:51.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004222)  
So, do we

**[03:59:53.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004223)  
impose new taxes?

**[03:59:55.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004224)  
Do we cut on government

**[03:59:57.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004225)  
spending? So, anong mga

**[04:00:00.000] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004227)  
Anong programa, anong activity, anong pagkagagastos na ng gobyerno ang ihinto natin or mangungutang ba tayo ulit?

**[04:00:09.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004228)  
So, Mr. Speaker, that's what we intend to do. We will maximize the non-tax revenue.

**[04:00:14.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004229)  
We would also increase the dividend rate from 50% to 75% in order that we can actually guarantee a possible actualization of these microeconomic assumptions, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:00:37.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004230)  
And apart from that, of course, baka mag-ano tayo.

**[04:00:41.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004231)  
Yung ano po, yung...

**[04:00:44.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004232)  
Yung privatization na tinitingnan po natin as earlier mentioned, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:00:51.040] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004233)  
How much would those generate? For example, yung increasing non-tax revenues.

**[04:00:56.360] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004234)  
Ang collection from non-tax revenues natin, ang expected natin is just 2.52 point...

**[04:01:01.700] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004235)  
Well, isa na natin, 2.53 billion. Malit lang ito.

**[04:01:06.700] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004236)  
Kahit na... How much more can we increase this?

**[04:01:11.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004237)  
Yung privatization natin, how much more would it...

**[04:01:13.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004238)  
Would it be able to generate?

**[04:01:16.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004239)  
Well, again, Mr. Speaker, there are a lot of venues where we can actually generate.

**[04:01:21.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004240)  
But again, we are also looking at, DOF is also looking at, possibly, kung hindi talaga kaya na yung nage-generate natin ng non-tax and tax revenues,

**[04:01:33.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004241)  
talagang mag-incur po tayo into additional borrowing.

**[04:01:37.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004242)  
Yun lamang po talaga yung paano mo talaga kung how do we finance these government expenditures that we actually...

**[04:01:43.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004243)  
we expected versus the revenue that we collect.

**[04:01:46.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004244)  
So, meron din talaga hong deficit. We don't deny that, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:01:51.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004245)  
That's why we are very much aggressive in coming up with these assumptions

**[04:01:56.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004246)  
and with partnering also with the possibility of identifying yung non-tax revenue

**[04:02:03.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004247)  
and yung tax revenue na nakakolekta po natin with the inter-dividends interest of raising it to 75%

**[04:02:11.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004248)  
para to compensate with the much-needed...

**[04:02:13.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004249)  
much-needed po na revenue na para ma...

**[04:02:17.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004250)  
at least mag-close po natin yung gap doon sa deficit na sinasabi po ng ating kagalang-galang na interpellator, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:02:24.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004251)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[04:02:26.300] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004252)  
Kasi going into 2027 with the backdrop of our current economic position,

**[04:02:34.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004253)  
wouldn't it be more prudent to propose a lower national government...

**[04:02:43.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004254)  
a lower budget proposal?

**[04:02:47.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004255)  
Spending, spending. Again, Mr. Speaker...

**[04:02:49.440] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004256)  
Kasi baka masyado tayong ma-off sa ating target.

**[04:02:55.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004257)  
So, prudence would dictate that a lower budget proposal be approved by Congress.

**[04:03:04.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004258)  
Now, ganito po, kagaya ng sinabi ko sa inyo kanina, we still have to bridge the gap.

**[04:03:09.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004259)  
7.2 trillion proposal, 5.2...

**[04:03:13.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004260)  
Trillion naman yung revenues which our tax and untaxed revenue sources could generate.

**[04:03:22.420] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004261)  
So, may kulang tayong 2 billion.

**[04:03:25.460] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004262)  
Now, how do we plan to bridge this gap?

**[04:03:30.540] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004263)  
We will secure a loan.

**[04:03:31.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004264)  
Narinig kong pinag-usapan nyo kanina ni Congressman Erice that there would be...

**[04:03:36.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004265)  
the government will secure about 3.4 trillion in loans to be able to bridge the gap.

**[04:03:43.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004266)  
Would that be correct?

**[04:03:45.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004267)  
Let me go back to the...

**[04:03:46.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004268)  
Then we go back to the exact figures, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:03:51.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004269)  
Pero ang alam ko, based on sinabi ko po sa inyo,

**[04:03:55.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004270)  
there's really that intention to be aggressive about...

**[04:04:00.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004271)  
You know, loan is just the last thing that we need to...

**[04:04:02.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004272)  
We need to contemplate on and actually get.

**[04:04:08.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004273)  
I mean, bangutang.

**[04:04:09.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004274)  
Pero hindi naman po lahat nung sinasabing...

**[04:04:13.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004275)  
Medyo magkaroon ng austerity measure ang spending ng government.

**[04:04:18.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004276)  
I think it is not necessarily translate into a prudent economic management kung lower yung government spending.

**[04:04:27.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004277)  
I think part of also boosting the economy is also proper.

**[04:04:32.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004278)  
I mean, spending, government spending.

**[04:04:34.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004279)  
It's just a matter of making it directly proper, directed to a specific program that would really add up to...

**[04:04:43.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004280)  
the entire economic activity of the country.

**[04:04:46.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004281)  
So, hindi naman po dapat, I think, sa aking palagay, magkaroon ng austerity measure in terms of spending.

**[04:04:53.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004282)  
In fact, public spending should be encouraged.

**[04:04:58.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004283)  
Only that, it should be well-implemented, well-targeted, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[04:05:03.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004284)  
ang pag-implementan ng mga programa.

**[04:05:05.240] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004285)  
Okay. Yung dalawang aspeto, sabi mo yung sa loan muna, dadako muna ako sa loan,

**[04:05:11.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004286)  
that we do not intend to secure a loan.

**[04:05:13.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004287)  
We are securing a loan to bridge the gap between the 5.2 revenue and the 7.2 budget proposal.

**[04:05:22.320] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004288)  
Pero doon, kita mo, doon sa ating borrowing sa 3.3 trillion, paano yung magiging breakdown nito?

**[04:05:30.840] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004289)  
Doon sa ating fiscal program, 7.2 trillion is the proposed budget, 6.9 trillion projected cash disbursement,

**[04:05:41.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004290)  
5.2 trillion projected revenues.

**[04:05:43.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004291)  
Kung tama, there will be a fiscal deficit, as I mentioned earlier, of around 1.6 trillion.

**[04:05:51.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004292)  
Gross borrowing, ito yung utangin natin, 3.3 trillion.

**[04:05:54.580] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004293)  
Now, doon sa 3.3 trillion, how much will be used for principal amortization?

**[04:06:06.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004294)  
Okay. Ito po ang 1.34 trillion po.

**[04:06:13.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004295)  
Okay. 1.34 trillion to pay the maturing domestic debt obligation.

**[04:06:20.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004296)  
Ito po yung tinatanong yung amortization.

**[04:06:23.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004297)  
At meron pong 254 billion pesos to refinance po yung maturing external debt obligations po natin.

**[04:06:33.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004298)  
So, that's about how much?

**[04:06:35.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004299)  
You want the total, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor?

**[04:06:37.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004300)  
Ito ah, if we have our figures correct.

**[04:06:39.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004301)  
Ewan ko, bakit [unclear] yung figures natin?

**[04:06:41.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004302)  
Principal amortization is

**[04:06:43.260] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004303)  
1.59 trillion.

**[04:06:45.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004304)  
Is that correct?

**[04:06:46.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004305)  
1.34

**[04:06:47.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004306)  
Plus 254 billion.

**[04:06:50.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004307)  
So, pareho po.

**[04:06:51.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004308)  
Then, magkano naman for net financing?

**[04:06:55.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004309)  
1.69 trillion pesos po.

**[04:06:58.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004310)  
Okay. So, roughly,

**[04:07:01.360] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004311)  
roughly,

**[04:07:03.400] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004312)  
doon sa ating,

**[04:07:04.420] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004313)  
sa ating ihirami na pera,

**[04:07:10.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004314)  
halos lahat nito magagamit natin for,

**[04:07:13.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004315)  
debt servicing and principal amortization.

**[04:07:18.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004316)  
Well, financing and amortization, doon maubos.

**[04:07:22.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004317)  
Now, nabanggit mo kanina is that we also need to be able to prime the economy.

**[04:07:28.840] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004318)  
Sabi mo nga, importante rin yung government spending.

**[04:07:32.620] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004319)  
But, the implications of government consumption,

**[04:07:37.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004320)  
assuming that there would be a temporary increase in government spending,

**[04:07:43.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004321)  
we cannot rely on it wholly to support yung ating GDP.

**[04:07:51.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004322)  
Because yung,

**[04:07:52.540] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004323)  
we also have to look towards the long-term capacity to finance a 7.2 trillion budget eh.

**[04:07:58.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004324)  
Through substantial investment.

**[04:08:00.580] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004325)  
Coming from,

**[04:08:01.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004326)  
from other sources.

**[04:08:03.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004327)  
Hindi pwede yung gobyerno lang ang kumikita.

**[04:08:07.260] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004328)  
Dahil nga yung ating ekonomiya is not naman an export-driven economy.

**[04:08:12.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004329)  
We are,

**[04:08:13.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004330)  
we are,

**[04:08:13.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004331)  
we are a consumption-driven economy.

**[04:08:15.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004332)  
And pagka yung gobyerno lang ang gumagastos,

**[04:08:19.020] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004333)  
it doesn't really improve yung ating situation.

**[04:08:24.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004334)  
Ang concern ko ah,

**[04:08:27.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004335)  
we will,

**[04:08:29.160] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004336)  
our debt is already pegged at 19.39 trillion by the end of July 2026.

**[04:08:34.580] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004337)  
The problem with the slower GDP growth is,

**[04:08:37.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004338)  
matematical,

**[04:08:38.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004339)  
the debt stock can continue increasing

**[04:08:40.320] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004340)  
while the economy against which that debt is measured,

**[04:08:43.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004341)  
grows more slowly.

**[04:08:45.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004342)  
So the government's fiscal strategy assumes eventual consolidation.

**[04:08:51.140] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004343)  
The deficit is supposed to decline from 5.4 GDP in 2026,

**[04:08:55.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004344)  
5.1 in 2027,

**[04:08:57.860] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004345)  
and then 3.5 by 2030.

**[04:09:00.140] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004346)  
Pero,

**[04:09:01.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004347)  
how do we concretely achieve this?

**[04:09:05.980] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004348)  
These projections?

**[04:09:07.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004349)  
Ah, well,

**[04:09:08.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004350)  
well,

**[04:09:09.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004351)  
ang siyang position po talaga,

**[04:09:11.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004352)  
ang position po,

**[04:09:12.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004353)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[04:09:13.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004354)  
ng DOF is that

**[04:09:14.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004355)  
we really need to get to be more

**[04:09:17.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004356)  
into government spending

**[04:09:20.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004357)  
para po matulungan ang ating bansa

**[04:09:24.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004358)  
sa paglago po ng ekonomiya.

**[04:09:26.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004359)  
I think just to specifically cite just an example,

**[04:09:29.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004360)  
part of that also is to get more aggressive in the capital investment,

**[04:09:34.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004361)  
alimbawa sa per,

**[04:09:35.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004362)  
per, ano,

**[04:09:36.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004363)  
per agencies,

**[04:09:37.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004364)  
para po makapag-boost po ng local economy.

**[04:09:40.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004365)  
I think in the macro,

**[04:09:43.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004366)  
macro analysis of things,

**[04:09:44.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004367)  
no,

**[04:09:45.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004368)  
when it comes to boosting the local trade is

**[04:09:47.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004369)  
to be more aggressive in government spending.

**[04:09:50.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004370)  
At nakita naman po datin yan,

**[04:09:51.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004371)  
based on the macro assumption,

**[04:09:53.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004372)  
as we get the target,

**[04:09:54.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004373)  
bumaba ba naman po yung ating debt to GDP,

**[04:09:58.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004374)  
no,

**[04:09:58.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004375)  
over the years.

**[04:09:58.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004376)  
So,

**[04:09:59.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004377)  
we hope that,

**[04:10:00.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004378)  
again,

**[04:10:01.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004379)  
kung hindi po natin ito gagastusin

**[04:10:03.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004380)  
o hindi gagastus ng mas aggressive,

**[04:10:06.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004381)  
ang paniwala po ng ating

**[04:10:08.380] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004382)  
Please wind up,

**[04:10:09.760] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004383)  
honorable,

**[04:10:10.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004384)  
D.O.S.

**[04:10:11.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004385)  
Mas,

**[04:10:11.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004386)  
mas hindi po,

**[04:10:12.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004387)  
mag-slow down po nga ang ating growth

**[04:10:14.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004388)  
at hindi po natin masosolve talaga yung pinaka-problema,

**[04:10:17.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004389)  
which is to bring down

**[04:10:18.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004390)  
the debt to GDP,

**[04:10:21.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004391)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[04:10:21.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004392)  
Your Honor.

**[04:10:22.300] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004393)  
Okay, but,

**[04:10:23.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004394)  
well,

**[04:10:24.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004395)  
as I mentioned,

**[04:10:26.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004396)  
well,

**[04:10:26.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004397)  
this,

**[04:10:29.380] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004398)  
the real data going into 2027

**[04:10:32.380] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004399)  
actually is a cautionary tale for us

**[04:10:36.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004400)  
that we have to be more prudent

**[04:10:39.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004401)  
in our expenditure program

**[04:10:41.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004402)  
and in the proportionality,

**[04:10:42.780] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004403)  
in the proposed budget that we will approve.

**[04:10:44.540] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004404)  
Considering that the not so rosy economic outlook,

**[04:10:48.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004405)  
kaya nga sinasabi ko,

**[04:10:50.380] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004406)  
maybe we should act more prudently.

**[04:10:54.300] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004407)  
Okay lang naman talaga to run a budget deficit.

**[04:10:57.780] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004408)  
Okay lang to secure loans.

**[04:10:59.420] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004409)  
But, for example,

**[04:11:00.220] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004410)  
the loan that we secured,

**[04:11:01.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004411)  
as I mentioned,

**[04:11:03.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004412)  
a big portion of it will fall to debt servicing,

**[04:11:06.260] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004413)  
not really to,

**[04:11:09.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004414)  
on projects that will help pump prime the economy,

**[04:11:11.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004415)  
that will,

**[04:11:12.780] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004416)  
supposedly,

**[04:11:14.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004417)  
kung doon mapupunta,

**[04:11:15.860] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004418)  
would be an additional,

**[04:11:17.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004419)  
maybe a source of revenues for our country.

**[04:11:20.100] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004420)  
Now, ito lang po,

**[04:11:20.840] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004421)  
idadagdag ko.

**[04:11:22.020] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004422)  
Last question.

**[04:11:23.000] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004423)  
Dahil,

**[04:11:23.480] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004424)  
pinakiusapan akong itanong lang

**[04:11:25.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004425)  
habang nakatayo ako dito.

**[04:11:28.400] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004426)  
Distinguished sponsor,

**[04:11:29.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004427)  
the proposed suspension of the implementation of RA 12001,

**[04:11:34.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004428)  
ito yung

**[04:11:35.280] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004429)  
Real Property Valuation and Assessment Reform Act,

**[04:11:38.900] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004430)  
has been included

**[04:11:40.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004431)  
in the LEDAC,

**[04:11:42.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004432)  
Common Legislative Agenda,

**[04:11:43.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004433)  
while several measures are pending here in the House,

**[04:11:47.000] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004434)  
proposing the suspension,

**[04:11:48.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004435)  
deferment,

**[04:11:49.040] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004436)  
amendment of this implementation,

**[04:11:50.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004437)  
including proposal to temporarily

**[04:11:52.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004438)  
defer tax impact of updated schedule of market values.

**[04:11:57.820] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004439)  
Ito po yung katanungan niya.

**[04:11:59.780] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004440)  
May we ask for the DOF's position

**[04:12:02.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004441)  
on providing a reasonable transition period

**[04:12:05.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004442)  
for the Real Property Valuation and Assessment Reform Act,

**[04:12:10.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004443)  
allowing valuations,

**[04:12:12.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004444)  
and approval process to continue

**[04:12:14.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004445)  
while deferring the tax impact.

**[04:12:17.880] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004446)  
Thank you, Honorable Sen.

**[04:12:19.840] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004447)  
That will be your last question.

**[04:12:21.700] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004448)  
Good speaker.

**[04:12:22.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004449)  
Ihintay lang ako ng answer.

**[04:12:24.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004450)  
We support the deferment of the implementation of our VVARA.

**[04:12:29.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004451)  
So,

**[04:12:30.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004452)  
susupotan po natin ito.

**[04:12:32.260] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004453)  
And,

**[04:12:32.840] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004454)  
meron na ba tayong safeguards?

**[04:12:34.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004455)  
Does the department have,

**[04:12:35.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004456)  
can the department propose some safeguards

**[04:12:39.440] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004457)  
to prevent sudden and disproportionate increases

**[04:12:42.060] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004458)  
in tax,

**[04:12:43.340] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004459)  
taxpayer's real property tax liability?

**[04:12:46.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004460)  
Kasama pa rin po doon sa phone-in question kasi yun eh.

**[04:12:49.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004461)  
Yeah.

**[04:12:51.940] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004462)  
Thank you.

**[04:12:52.660] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004463)  
Honorable Suntay.

**[04:12:53.620] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004464)  
Mr. Speaker, yung answer lang.

**[04:12:57.100] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004465)  
You answered the question, Honorable Jong.

**[04:13:00.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004466)  
Yes, this only the provision in the RP VARA,

**[04:13:03.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004467)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[04:13:04.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004468)  
which speaks about the 6% cap

**[04:13:07.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004469)  
for the agency.

**[04:13:09.620] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004470)  
Na yung tanong yata,

**[04:13:10.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004471)  
for the agency, Mr. Speaker,

**[04:13:11.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004472)  
Your Honor.

**[04:13:11.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004473)  
Good sponsor.

**[04:13:13.220] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004474)  
While pending the approval,

**[04:13:15.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004475)  
are there some proposals that would help cushion yung sudden increase?

**[04:13:21.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004476)  
It's still being studied, Mr. Speaker,

**[04:13:23.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004477)  
by the Department of Finance.

**[04:13:24.740] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004478)  
Okay.

**[04:13:25.360] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004479)  
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:13:26.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004480)  
Good sponsor.

**[04:13:27.540] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004481)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:13:28.540] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004482)  
Thank you, Honorable Suntay.

**[04:13:29.880] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004483)  
Majority Leader?

**[04:13:31.160] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-004484)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[04:13:32.060] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-004485)  
next to interpolate the sponsor,

**[04:13:33.900] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-004486)  
I move to recognize

**[04:13:35.040] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-004487)  
Representative Renee Louise Co of Kabataan Partylist.

**[04:13:39.500] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004488)  
Honorable Renee Louise Co,

**[04:13:41.060] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004489)  
Honorable Renee Louise Co,

**[04:13:42.060] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004490)  
is recognized to interpolate.

**[04:13:44.060] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004491)  
Honorable Renee Louise Co, is recognized to interpolate.

**[04:13:45.060] Deputy Speaker Yasser Alonto Balindong** (asr-004492)  
Honorable Renee Louise Co, is recognized to interpolate.

**[04:13:46.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004493)  
Maraming salamat, Ginoong Speaker,

**[04:13:48.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004494)  
at magandang hapon po

**[04:13:50.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004495)  
sa ating distinguished sponsor

**[04:13:52.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004496)  
at sa ahensya

**[04:13:54.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004497)  
na kung saan ay in-sponsor niya ang kanyang budget.

**[04:13:56.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004498)  
at sa ahensya na kung saan ay in-sponsor niya ang kanyang budget.

**[04:13:58.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004499)  
Ang mga katanungan po natin ay tungkol po

**[04:14:00.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004500)  
ang mga katanungan po natin ay tungkol po

**[04:14:02.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004501)  
muli sa kalikasan

**[04:14:04.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004502)  
ang mga iba't-ibang avenues

**[04:14:06.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004503)  
by which the DOF

**[04:14:08.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004504)  
should empower communities, LGUs,

**[04:14:10.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004505)  
should empower communities, LGUs,

**[04:14:12.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004506)  
para pangalagaan ito.

**[04:14:14.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004507)  
Ngunit gusto natin i-clarify

**[04:14:16.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004508)  
kung ano po yung mga stated policies

**[04:14:18.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004509)  
dito, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[04:14:20.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004510)  
Ang una nating tanong ay tungkol po

**[04:14:22.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004511)  
sa People's Survival Fund

**[04:14:24.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004512)  
sa People's Survival Fund

**[04:14:26.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004513)  
na nasa DOF po

**[04:14:28.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004514)  
yung may jurisdiction

**[04:14:30.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004515)  
na i-oversee,

**[04:14:32.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004516)  
maghawak,

**[04:14:34.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004517)  
mag-disperse sa LGUs,

**[04:14:36.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004518)  
organizations, ayon po

**[04:14:38.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004519)  
doon sa claims

**[04:14:40.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004520)  
na kung qualified po ay

**[04:14:42.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004521)  
maaari pong ibigay.

**[04:14:44.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004522)  
Pwede po bang malaman, Mr. Speaker,

**[04:14:46.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004523)  
good sponsor, ano po ba yung kasalukuyang

**[04:14:48.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004524)  
sistema ng pag-access

**[04:14:50.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004525)  
ng People's Survival Fund?

**[04:14:56.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004526)  
At siguro po para sa

**[04:14:58.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004527)  
kaalaman ng publiko,

**[04:15:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004528)  
Dahil po sa batas, ay established na po ito since 2012, nabigyan ng opening balance ng isang bilyong piso,

**[04:15:08.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004529)  
kung saan LGUs, community organizations, may apply for funding for their adaptation activities and other methods by which gusto natin na-exhibit yung climate mitigation, climate resiliency,

**[04:15:26.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004530)  
na dapat lahat po tayo ay nasa sagawa under the National Climate Action Plan. Ngunit, yun nga po, isang ibang usapin yung pagpondo nito na nasa DOF po, because of the People's Survival Fund.

**[04:15:44.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004531)  
Ano na po ba yung kasalukuyang sistema nito? At magkano na po ba ang disbursed galing po sa unang isang bilyong pisong granted po nito noong 2012?

**[04:15:55.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004532)  
Well, tama po. Meron pong proseso kung paano po ang mga LGUs mag-a-apply nitong pondo na ito. It goes through the regular vetting process.

**[04:16:10.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004533)  
Tapos pag napasado po doon sa vetting process ng mga LGUs na pag-apply nila, pag-request nila, nagre-release po ang Department of Finance ng kaukulang pondo.

**[04:16:21.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004534)  
Sa ngayon po, based on 2025 data,

**[04:16:25.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004535)  
meron na pong nai-release na P401,681,000.

**[04:16:29.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004536)  
Sa kasalukuyang year, taon, meron na pong P568,938,765.

**[04:16:42.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004537)  
36.74% po ito doon sa nakalaan sa GAA of 2026.

**[04:16:47.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004538)  
Kasi ang nakalagaan po sa GAA is P1,548,000,000, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:16:52.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004539)  
Your Honor.

**[04:16:54.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004540)  
Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[04:16:55.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004541)  
Sir, hingin nalang po tayo ng kopya ng proseso at ang mga standards, qualifications na ginagamit po ng DOF

**[04:17:04.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004542)  
para po kung sino man pong mag-apply for disbursement ng People's Survival Fund ay maaari po silang makakuha.

**[04:17:14.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004543)  
Maaari po ba yun magawa, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[04:17:17.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004544)  
Yes po, magpaprovide po kami ng kakopya ng kriteriya o paano maka-avail.

**[04:17:25.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004545)  
Gusto lang namin po i-inform din sa magalang-galang na interpolator.

**[04:17:29.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004546)  
Meron nakapam, nakaposta po ito sa website po ng Department of Finance.

**[04:17:33.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004547)  
Sige po, intayin po pa rin natin at kung may mga iba pang dokumento na hindi po kita sa website kung paano po ma-access po ito.

**[04:17:41.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004548)  
Ang clarification ko po, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor.

**[04:17:44.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004549)  
Ang sinabi po ng figures, yung P401,000,000, this was just disbursed last year?

**[04:17:51.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004550)  
Tama po,

**[04:17:52.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004550-split-2)  
last year.

**[04:17:53.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004551)  
At this year?

**[04:17:54.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004552)  
568 million?

**[04:17:57.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004553)  
Opo.

**[04:17:57.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004554)  
Okay.

**[04:18:01.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004555)  
P568,000,000.

**[04:18:03.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004556)  
Ano po yun, Mr. Speaker?

**[04:18:04.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004557)  
P568,000,000.

**[04:18:06.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004558)  
While cumulative po yung kanyang disbursement, Mr. Speaker, your honor.

**[04:18:10.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004559)  
Itong P568,930,000.

**[04:18:17.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004560)  
Tama po yung figure nila.

**[04:18:19.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004561)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, meron po bang datos ang DOF?

**[04:18:22.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004562)  
Sa magkano na po yung nag-disbursement?

**[04:18:24.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004563)  
Sa magkano na po yung nag-disbursed ng ahensya simula noong nagkaroon ng People's Survival Fund?

**[04:18:30.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004564)  
Yun na po, cumulative po yun eh. Starting from 2020.

**[04:18:49.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004565)  
So to correct, cumulative po ito. So since existence…

**[04:18:52.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004566)  
Yes,

**[04:18:53.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004567)  
we adopt

**[04:18:53.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004568)  
the previous releases. So since 2018, meron pong P29,087,000.

**[04:19:05.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004569)  
Yun po yung start. We can just provide you po the data.

**[04:19:11.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004570)  
Tingin po tayo ng kopya ng report, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor, kung magkano po yung nag-disbursed per year at anong porsyento po yung nag-disbursed kada taon.

**[04:19:21.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004571)  
Yes po.

**[04:19:21.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004572)  
Yes po.

**[04:19:21.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004573)  
Yes po.

**[04:19:21.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004574)  
Ang remarkable lang po sa akin dito, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ay it's been existent for how many years now?

**[04:19:31.980] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004575)  
15, 16? Tapos ngayon pa lang po umabot ng 568 million. So tama po noon na report niyo, 36%. Ito po yung current utilization rate ng 1 billion pesos.

**[04:19:45.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004576)  
Yes, that's correct po, Mrs. Speaker.

**[04:19:46.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004577)  
Ilang beses na po ba na-replenish yung People's Survival Fund?

**[04:19:50.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004578)  
Ayon po kasi sa batas, maaari po siyang ma-replenish. So ang 1 billion, ito po yung starting amount, and meron pong provision which says that hindi po dapat bababa sa 1 billion yung nasa laman ng People's Survival Fund.

**[04:20:14.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004579)  
So ilang beses na po ba siya na-replenish, if at all, Mr. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[04:20:18.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004580)  
Yes, that's correct.

**[04:20:19.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004581)  
So, Mrs. Speaker, dahil ito ay cumulative, Mrs. Speaker, depende rin po dun sa disbursement kasi nga may process talaga ito mag-avail. So starting from its implementation, more than 3 times na po na-replenish itong pondo na ito.

**[04:20:32.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004582)  
More than 3 times na po na-replenish. Magkano na po siya ngayon, Mrs. Speaker, good sponsor?

**[04:20:39.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004583)  
1.5. To be exact, 1.548 million and 59,000, Mrs. Speaker, your honor.

**[04:20:49.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004584)  
So ano po rin yung sources ng replenishment na ito? Ito po ba ay galing sa budget primarily or meron po ba itong donations na nakakuha, dito po nilagay, as per law, na maaari naman pong mangyari?

**[04:21:05.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004585)  
So the General Appropriations Act lang po, Mrs. Speaker, ang sources ng replenishment itong pondo na ito, Mrs. Speaker, your honor. Wala pong ibang other sources.

**[04:21:13.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004586)  
Okay.

**[04:21:14.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004587)  
Maaari po bang magsumiti ang ahensya kung ano po yung mga proyektong na-disbursan ng People's Survival Fund for the past years of its existence? Would that be possible po?

**[04:21:28.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004587-split-2)  
Yes po. Magbibigay po kami ng kaukulang datos simula po itong nagumpisa, implementation nito. At kung sino po yung naka-avail nito at nabigyan itong assistance na ito, Mrs. Speaker, your honor.

**[04:21:42.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004588)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, tinatanong po natin ito dahil simula noong napasa.

**[04:21:49.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004589)  
Yung Climate Change Act noong 2009 at napasa yung amendments nito that established the People's Survival Fund noong 2012, noong marami pong tumingin dito sa adaptation fund na ito, no, essentially, no, domestic adaptation fund.

**[04:22:05.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004590)  
Para po ang iba't ibang mga LGU, kahit mga community organizations, civil society organizations, magawa nila yung iba't ibang advokasya nila sa pangklima.

**[04:22:19.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004591)  
to resist climate change by applying, no, for a grant or for disbursement here. Ngunit, the knowledge that only 568 million has been disbursed in more than 15 years, for me, ay hindi natin na ma-maximize yung People's Survival Fund.

**[04:22:41.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004592)  
Sa ideal, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, kung nagagawa natin na ma-exhaust yung 1 billion sa isang taon,

**[04:22:49.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004593)  
basta na-insure po ng DOF, ng Climate Change Commission, ng mga iba't ibang ahensya, kahit ng DBM po, no, na lahat po ng nagagrantan nito ay naayon sa National Climate Action Plan

**[04:23:03.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004594)  
at talagang may na-me-measure na tangible effects para mapigilan yung climate change, ay that's 1 billion pesos well spent, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[04:23:13.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004595)  
So, ang tanong po natin, bakit po for 15 years or more?

**[04:23:19.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004596)  
568 million lang yung na-disburst niya.

**[04:23:22.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004597)  
Well, unang-una po, Mrs. Speaker, sabi ko na sa advance po sa sinasabi namin na meron po talagang proseso ito, kung paano po ito maka-avail at the same time.

**[04:23:31.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004598)  
Yung replenishment naman po ito is based on, yung cumulative nga po yung pag-release as what the data says, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:23:43.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004599)  
Ngayong tindihan po namin, in fact, sinasuportahan po natin ng DOF yung katayuan.

**[04:23:49.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004600)  
Yung position po ng ating kagalang-galang na interpolator dahil I think we also need to do more.

**[04:23:55.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004601)  
Kasi this is something that, this is a funding that really goes straight to the protection of our environment.

**[04:24:03.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004602)  
So, kami po ang Department of Finance nakikiisa po kung anuman po yung mga programa na maaaring mas mapaganda at mapabilis yung usage na ito.

**[04:24:13.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004603)  
Pero again, depending on the actual number of LGS, would really avail.

**[04:24:18.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004604)  
request

**[04:24:18.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004605)  
for

**[04:24:19.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004606)  
such funding. Doon naman po

**[04:24:21.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004607)  
nakadepende ito ang releases

**[04:24:23.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004608)  
at yung utilization ng pondo na ito.

**[04:24:25.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004609)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[04:24:27.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004610)  
natutuwa po tayo na marinig yun.

**[04:24:29.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004611)  
Ngunit, kung itatambal

**[04:24:31.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004612)  
po natin siya sa mga

**[04:24:33.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004613)  
accounts ng mga

**[04:24:34.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004614)  
civil society organizations,

**[04:24:37.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004615)  
ang reports po nila

**[04:24:39.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004616)  
ay ang very

**[04:24:41.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004617)  
stringent yung requirements for project

**[04:24:43.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004618)  
proposals. It needs extensive

**[04:24:45.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004619)  
technical studies

**[04:24:46.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004620)  
and overwhelming documentary compliance

**[04:24:49.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004621)  
effectively locking out poor

**[04:24:51.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004622)  
municipalities and people's

**[04:24:53.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004623)  
organizations that lack the

**[04:24:55.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004624)  
capacity to hire technical

**[04:24:57.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004625)  
consultants. Kung hindi po natin

**[04:24:59.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004626)  
nagagamit yung

**[04:25:01.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004627)  
pera na ito para po

**[04:25:03.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004628)  
doon sa mga stated purposes niya,

**[04:25:05.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004629)  
ang risk po nito

**[04:25:06.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004630)  
ay natutulog lang yung

**[04:25:09.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004631)  
pondo na ito na sana po

**[04:25:11.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004632)  
ay mas aktibo niya pong

**[04:25:12.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004633)  
nagagawa yung

**[04:25:14.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004634)  
adaptation, mitigation strategies

**[04:25:17.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004635)  
na nakatulong po

**[04:25:19.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004636)  
sana.

**[04:25:19.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004637)  
Hindi mabaha ang mga iba't-ibang

**[04:25:21.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004638)  
komunidad na mas maraming

**[04:25:23.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004639)  
kabataan ang

**[04:25:25.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004640)  
may knowledge of

**[04:25:27.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004641)  
climate change at kung ano man pong

**[04:25:29.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004642)  
mga iba't-ibang endeavors pwede natin

**[04:25:31.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004643)  
pasukin para po mas

**[04:25:33.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004644)  
ma-address yung

**[04:25:35.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004645)  
climate crisis ngayon.

**[04:25:38.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004646)  
So, siguro ang tanong natin,

**[04:25:40.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004647)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[04:25:41.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004648)  
ano po ba ang ginagawa ng DOF

**[04:25:43.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004649)  
para po mas

**[04:25:45.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004650)  
mahikayat ang pinakamarami

**[04:25:47.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004651)  
na makapag-apply? Paano po nito

**[04:25:49.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004652)  
pinapagaan yung

**[04:25:51.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004653)  
proseso sa mga iba't-ibang

**[04:25:53.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004654)  
applicants? At ano po ang ugnayan

**[04:25:55.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004655)  
nila, the Climate Change Commission

**[04:25:57.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004656)  
para po ma-implement

**[04:25:59.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004657)  
ang mandate ng People's Survival Fund?

**[04:26:01.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004658)  
Well, una-una po, again, kasi dapat

**[04:26:03.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004659)  
ano po tayo ngayon,

**[04:26:05.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004660)  
we are moving towards

**[04:26:07.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004661)  
making access, making

**[04:26:09.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004662)  
government

**[04:26:11.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004663)  
projects accessible to the public.

**[04:26:13.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004664)  
Nakapost naman po ito sa website

**[04:26:15.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004665)  
ng ating Department of Finance.

**[04:26:18.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004666)  
So, any

**[04:26:19.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004667)  
LGU can actually

**[04:26:20.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004668)  
browse over the criteria

**[04:26:23.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004669)  
or the much-needed requirement

**[04:26:24.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004670)  
para po sila ay maka-request

**[04:26:27.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004671)  
or maka-avail itong

**[04:26:28.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004672)  
assistance na ito. Tama po yung sinabi nyo,

**[04:26:31.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004673)  
minsan may

**[04:26:33.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004674)  
pagka-stringent po kasi we also

**[04:26:35.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004675)  
need to maintain kung

**[04:26:37.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004676)  
ano po yung

**[04:26:38.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004677)  
tamang project na gustong

**[04:26:41.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004678)  
pagawa ng LGU

**[04:26:43.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004679)  
kasi kailangan po din natin make sure

**[04:26:45.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004680)  
na aside from quality ito,

**[04:26:47.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004681)  
kumbaga yung standard,

**[04:26:49.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004682)  
standard of the projects

**[04:26:50.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004683)  
or programs or whatever you call it,

**[04:26:52.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004684)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, doon po intended

**[04:26:54.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004685)  
sa LGU, ay hindi lang

**[04:26:56.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004686)  
maganda, but at the same time,

**[04:27:00.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004687)  
meron po talaga siyang

**[04:27:01.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004688)  
district or community

**[04:27:03.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004689)  
impact, no? Para

**[04:27:05.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004690)  
hindi lang po sa protection ng ating

**[04:27:07.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004691)  
environment, but as well as yung much-needed

**[04:27:10.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004692)  
na programs

**[04:27:11.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004693)  
or proyekto ng mga locality

**[04:27:13.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004694)  
na unique doon sa

**[04:27:15.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004695)  
area kung saan ilalagay itong

**[04:27:17.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004696)  
program na ito na sourced out from this

**[04:27:19.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004697)  
fund. So, babalansi

**[04:27:21.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004698)  
po natin yan. And if the good

**[04:27:23.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004699)  
lady, I'm sure she's

**[04:27:25.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004700)  
one of the advocates, the champion for

**[04:27:27.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004701)  
environmental protection

**[04:27:28.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004702)  
programs, kung meron pong

**[04:27:30.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004703)  
ninanais na any

**[04:27:32.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004704)  
proposal,

**[04:27:36.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004705)  
ang handa naman po ang

**[04:27:37.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004706)  
Department of Finance na makinig

**[04:27:38.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004707)  
sa kinatawan

**[04:27:41.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004708)  
ng kabataang party list.

**[04:27:43.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004709)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[04:27:45.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004710)  
siguro huling tanong na lang po natin tungkol dito

**[04:27:47.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004711)  
bago po tayo mag-proceed sa ating

**[04:27:49.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004712)  
manifestasyon.

**[04:27:51.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004713)  
Nasabi po naman na

**[04:27:53.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004714)  
nasa website ang iba't-ibang

**[04:27:54.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004715)  
mga proseso, pero I think

**[04:27:56.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004716)  
we can all attest

**[04:27:58.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004717)  
na kahit anong kaganda ng website

**[04:28:00.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004718)  
natin, ako po, nabisita ko yung

**[04:28:02.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004719)  
website ng PSF sa

**[04:28:04.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004720)  
DOF, pero hindi pa rin

**[04:28:06.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004721)  
nakahikayat, yun po yung reality, na mas

**[04:28:08.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004722)  
maraming makapag-apply, no,

**[04:28:11.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004723)  
na makakuha ng

**[04:28:12.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004724)  
disbursement sa People's Survival

**[04:28:14.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004725)  
Fund na makakabuti sana sa

**[04:28:16.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004726)  
mga komunidad. Ano po bang mga nakikitang

**[04:28:18.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004727)  
bottlenecks ng

**[04:28:21.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004728)  
DOF sa paggamit

**[04:28:23.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004729)  
ng People's Survival Fund, if any?

**[04:28:25.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004730)  
Ano po bang commitment or ano po

**[04:28:27.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004731)  
bang aktibidad na ginagawa ng DOF para

**[04:28:28.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004732)  
ma-resolve yung bottlenecks na ito?

**[04:28:48.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004733)  
Yes, okay, so

**[04:28:52.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004734)  
sa kasalukuyin po,

**[04:28:54.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004735)  
ini-improve po talaga itong

**[04:28:56.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004736)  
programang ito,

**[04:28:58.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004737)  
nakikipag-ugnayan po ang Department of

**[04:29:00.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004738)  
Finance sa DBP.

**[04:29:06.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004739)  
Development Bank of the Philippines

**[04:29:08.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004740)  
para po ma-streamline

**[04:29:11.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004741)  
po yung processes,

**[04:29:12.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004742)  
at the same time ay mas mapabilis

**[04:29:15.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004743)  
yung releases,

**[04:29:16.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004744)  
at the same time, hindi ma-compromise po yung

**[04:29:18.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004745)  
quality ng mga programa

**[04:29:20.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004746)  
ng nais isagawa nitong mga

**[04:29:22.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004747)  
LGUs na nais po mag-partake

**[04:29:24.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004748)  
ng itong pondo na ito, Mrs. Speaker.

**[04:29:26.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004749)  
So it's an ongoing adjustment

**[04:29:28.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004750)  
as well as improvement, Mrs. Speaker, on the

**[04:29:30.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004751)  
process itself, and the releases of

**[04:29:33.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004752)  
these funds, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:29:34.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004753)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[04:29:37.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004754)  
mahingi na lang po tayo

**[04:29:39.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004755)  
ng kopya ng list of

**[04:29:41.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004756)  
recommendations or reports

**[04:29:42.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004757)  
na ito yung sa

**[04:29:44.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004758)  
DOF, no, na

**[04:29:46.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004759)  
pagtingin nila na bottle

**[04:29:48.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004760)  
necks, at kung ano po

**[04:29:50.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004761)  
ang nire-resolva pa nila kasama ng

**[04:29:52.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004762)  
DBP para mas marami po

**[04:29:54.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004763)  
ang maka-access nito sa puno't dulo.

**[04:29:56.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004764)  
Magbibigay din po ng listahan

**[04:29:58.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004765)  
ng mga rekomendasyon.

**[04:30:00.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004766)  
ang kinatawan na ito at the proper time and avenue.

**[04:30:04.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004767)  
Pero siguro, I open this up on the floor, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[04:30:10.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004768)  
because ito yung mga isapin kapag pinag-uusapan natin yung climate finance.

**[04:30:16.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004769)  
Meron tayong commitments sa Paris Agreement, gusto natin ma-actualize sila,

**[04:30:21.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004770)  
pero pagdating naman po sa paglalabas talaga ng pera para ma-actualize ito,

**[04:30:26.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004771)  
ayaw natin nang mabagal sila, o kaya naman ay hindi naman mangyayari

**[04:30:31.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004772)  
dahil po it will end up in paperwork hell.

**[04:30:36.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004773)  
So, ang dulo naman po nito, gusto natin at the end of it ay mas madali,

**[04:30:42.620] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004774)  
pero tama pa rin yung accountability na ma-access yung People's Survival Fund.

**[04:30:48.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004775)  
And I'd like to put on the record that I think going into 2027,

**[04:30:54.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004776)  
dapat po mas hands-on tayo sa pag-disperse nito or even paggamit nito bilang mekanismo,

**[04:31:03.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004777)  
papalapit na ang Super El Niño.

**[04:31:06.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004778)  
So, ang maaari po natin gawin, this representation adopts the recommendation of Action Klima

**[04:31:11.720] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004779)  
na dapat the People's Survival Fund should open a fast-track window for El Niño responsive projects

**[04:31:18.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004780)  
with its board possibly designating half of its current budget for more rapid disbursement

**[04:31:23.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004781)  
through a simplified

**[04:31:24.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004785)  
application process and project cycle.

**[04:31:27.440] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004786)  
Fifth and sixth class municipalities in particular,

**[04:31:31.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004787)  
projected to be hard-hit by the Super El Niño should be prioritized,

**[04:31:35.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004788)  
especially in implementing projects such as rainwater harvesting,

**[04:31:39.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004789)  
crop diversification, and watershed management.

**[04:31:43.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004790)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, magbibigay naman po tayo ng list of recommendations at the proper time.

**[04:31:47.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004791)  
Yes, we appreciate, Mrs. Speaker, itong mga namimention po na recommendation

**[04:31:52.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004792)  
ng kinatawan ng kabataan party list.

**[04:31:56.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004793)  
In fact, ang position po ng DOF ay nais po nilang makakuha itong recommendation na ito

**[04:32:01.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004794)  
nang sa ganun ay maging basihan din po ito sa ongoing improvement po sa Social People's Protection Fund na ito po,

**[04:32:09.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004795)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:32:10.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004796)  
So, nagpapasalamat po kami and then the DOF is willing to work with Congresswoman Renee Co

**[04:32:16.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004797)  
para po mas mapa-improve pa natin, mas papadali at mas matulungan natin ang mga komunidad

**[04:32:21.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004798)  
ngangailangan.

**[04:32:22.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004799)  
ng ganitong klaseng pondo para po sa proteksyon, hindi lang po ng kalakasan nila

**[04:32:27.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004800)  
pero proteksyon po sa kanilang mga constituents, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:32:32.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004801)  
Salamat po, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[04:32:34.420] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004802)  
Ang sunod po nating tanong ay tungkol naman po sa Bureau of Customs.

**[04:32:38.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004803)  
Ito po ay tungkol naman din sa usapin ng electronic waste na nakita natin na tinambak sa Subic

**[04:32:47.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004804)  
some 253, if I remember correctly,

**[04:32:52.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004805)  
containers of that, na nahirapan yung Bureau of Customs to exercise its mandate, legal mandate, para po tuloy-tuloy na ma-check yung anuman po yung nandito sa mga containers na ito.

**[04:33:08.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004806)  
Noted po natin na nagkaroon po ng joint inspection on the nine recycling site, nine recycling locators in Subic, July 1 this year, kasama ng SBMA at DNRM EMD. Ano pong findings ng joint inspection na ito, Mr. Speaker, Good Sponsor?

**[04:33:34.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004807)  
Kung maaari lang po lamang, magre-refer lang po ako sa data.

**[04:33:38.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004808)  
Pero alam ko, just while they're looking at the data, sa Bureau of Customs po, ito pong nami-mention po na mga, okay, ito pong mga e-waste na mga cargo po, for a certain period of time, kasi what is important po, Mr. Speaker, is hindi po nila dito tinatangbak.

**[04:34:08.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004809)  
Pinapabalik po nila ito sa country of origin, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:34:13.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004810)  
So kung meron man lang pong time na nandoon sa isang lugar, dyan po sa na-mention na lugar po ng ating kagalang-galang na kinatawan, ng kabataan party, this is only good for a certain number of days because it really requires that they need to be processed first and then makuha po yung number so that kailangan po yung documentation before the Bureau of Customs.

**[04:34:38.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004811)  
And it sends them back to the country of origin.

**[04:34:42.100] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004812)  
Maaari na lang po bang humingi ng kopya ng report tungkol po sa findings of this joint inspection?

**[04:34:48.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004813)  
Pero we raise this line of questioning, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, dahil po ang pagtambak ng e-waste, or rather, ang illegal importation of e-waste papuntang subik galing United States ay hindi po sang-ayon sa Basel Convention.

**[04:35:07.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004814)  
At under the Basel...

**[04:35:08.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004815)  
At under the Basel Convention na ating niratipika ay ang essentially agency na in charge sa pag-ensure na ito ay nasusunod other than the DEN or andyan ang Bureau of Customs.

**[04:35:21.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004816)  
So it's good to hear na itong July 1 and subsequent inspections ay napapabalik na po sa country of origin yung mga tunetuneladang mga e-waste na pumupunta.

**[04:35:38.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004817)  
Dito sa ating bansa, ayaw po natin na maging tambakan ng basura ang Pilipinas, gaya po ng ginagawa ng ibang mayamang bansa sa Southeast Asia.

**[04:35:48.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004818)  
So, I'd like a commitment, Madam Speaker, good sponsor, on the floor, tuloy-tuloy na ba ang cooperation to ensure that illegal imports of electronic waste and toxic waste on the area is strictly prohibited under our law?

**[04:36:03.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004819)  
Yes, Mrs. Speaker, we can guarantee that we will call the support.

**[04:36:08.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004820)  
Yes, Mrs. Speaker, just to add on to the previous response that I gave to the good lady from Kabataan Party List, it's not only about Customs' role and duty to send back these e-waste cargos,

**[04:36:24.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004821)  
but even the DNR also requires them to have a clear position on this.

**[04:36:30.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004822)  
I think this is an ongoing discussion between the Bureau of Customs and the Department of Natural Resources and Environment and Natural Resources.

**[04:36:37.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004823)  
Yes.

**[04:36:38.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004824)  
So on the part of the Customs, kaya nga po nagko-cause ito ng possible alarm sa environment as well as health environment, they send them back. But as to the position of the good lady, whether the Bureau of Customs stands on whatever treaties, agreements, international covenants that we have entered into,

**[04:36:59.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004825)  
definitely, we will keep solidly comply with whatever the directives from all these treaties and covenants.

**[04:37:08.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004826)  
I think the Philippine government has said, entered into, Mrs. Speaker, your Honor.

**[04:37:11.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004827)  
Okay, maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, good sponsor.

**[04:37:14.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004828)  
Siguro ang huling na lang nating line of questioning din tungkol dito ay meron ding nakumpirma na containers na intercepted ng Bureau of Customs.

**[04:37:26.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004829)  
Meron po noong July 25, and according to Inquirer, it contains scrap copper from the U.S. arrived aboard MV Tokyo Express.

**[04:37:35.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004830)  
And meron din po isa pa na kinumpirma.

**[04:37:38.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004831)  
ng August 22 na suspected electronic waste.

**[04:37:44.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004832)  
And as far as we know, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[04:37:45.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004833)  
wala pang inilalabas na report para sa ikalawang shipment na pinatigil.

**[04:37:50.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004834)  
Maari po bang malaman ano yung findings

**[04:37:54.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004835)  
ng other interceptions na ginawa ng Bureau of Customs?

**[04:37:59.300] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004836)  
At pwede po bang ikumpirma,

**[04:38:01.380] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004837)  
electronic waste po ba ang laman ng shipments na ito?

**[04:38:04.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004838)  
At galing sa anong bansa?

**[04:38:08.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004839)  
...

**[04:38:38.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004840)  
Mrs. Speaker, apologies for that. Uh, Mr. Speaker, these are scrap metals upon assessment by the Bureau of Customs.

**[04:38:49.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004841)  
Pero when they are being tested, I think electronically,

**[04:38:53.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004842)  
mayroon nagpa-positive siya.

**[04:38:55.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004843)  
So I think these are the scrap metals used in hospitals,

**[04:38:58.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004844)  
maybe those devices that used radioactive.

**[04:39:02.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004845)  
That's why they're still continuing to...

**[04:39:07.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004846)  
still continuing...

**[04:39:08.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004847)  
They're still continuing on assessing these.

**[04:39:10.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004848)  
So magbibigay na lang po daw ang Bureau of Customs ng report,

**[04:39:14.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004849)  
assessment report, patungkol po dito sa sinasa...

**[04:39:17.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004850)  
minimension po ng ating kagalang-galang na interpreter,

**[04:39:19.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004851)  
Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:39:21.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004852)  
Hintayin din po natin yung ulat na ito,

**[04:39:23.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004853)  
pero para po rin sa clarification,

**[04:39:25.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004854)  
galing po sa anong bansa itong ikalawa na shipment?

**[04:39:30.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004855)  
Galing po ng United States po, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:39:33.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004856)  
Pero may iba-iba po na point of origin.

**[04:39:38.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004857)  
Meron pong mga other European countries,

**[04:39:46.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004858)  
for example, those cargos,

**[04:39:49.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004859)  
e-waste cargos that came from the United States,

**[04:39:51.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004860)  
pinabalik na po natin yan sa country of origin.

**[04:39:56.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004861)  
But the other, it's still being assessed

**[04:39:59.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004862)  
and magbibigay po kami ng report,

**[04:40:01.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004863)  
kagalang-galang na interpreter, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:40:04.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004864)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, hintayin po natin yung ulat

**[04:40:06.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004865)  
at hingi rin po tayo ng ulat sa tatlong interceptions

**[04:40:09.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004866)  
na ginawa ng Bureau of Customs.

**[04:40:11.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004867)  
Andiyan po yung sa July 1, July 25, and August 18.

**[04:40:19.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004868)  
Siguro to note na lang on the record, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[04:40:23.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004869)  
under the Basel Ban Amendment na at tayo'y signatory din,

**[04:40:28.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004870)  
hindi po maaari mag-export ang bansang U.S.

**[04:40:34.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004871)  
even ang mga bansa ng OECD,

**[04:40:37.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004872)  
so it includes European countries,

**[04:40:39.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004873)  
sa labas ng kanilang mga grupo.

**[04:40:42.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004874)  
So hindi po pwede sa Pilipinas.

**[04:40:44.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004875)  
So Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ang huli na lang nating tanong ay

**[04:40:49.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004876)  
alam natin na may RTC ruling na inalabas last year na nagsasabi

**[04:40:54.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004877)  
na ang Subic Bay Freeport Zone ay outside customs territory

**[04:40:59.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004878)  
over which public respondents, BOC, and POS can exercise jurisdiction.

**[04:41:04.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004879)  
Has this impeded the mandate of the BOC to report and inspect suspicious

**[04:41:09.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004880)  
and possibly illegal shipments within the SBMA?

**[04:41:12.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004881)  
At naapektoan po ba nito ang nakaraang mga pagpatitigil

**[04:41:15.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004882)  
ng mga shipments of e-waste?

**[04:41:19.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004883)  
Meron naman po, Mrs. Speaker, proper coordination

**[04:41:22.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004884)  
ang Subic Free Zone, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor,

**[04:41:28.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004885)  
at hindi naman po na-interrupt o naantala kung ano po yung mandatong

**[04:41:33.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004886)  
binigay po sa Bureau of Customs, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:41:36.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004887)  
So may proper coordination naman pong nangyayari at I would say na hindi po

**[04:41:41.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004888)  
both, narirespeto naman po yung mandato ng ating pangunahing ahensya

**[04:41:49.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004889)  
para po to make sure na yung pagpasok po dito sa ating bansa ng mga goods

**[04:41:54.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004890)  
ay legal at hindi po dumaan sa mga iligal na pamamaraan,

**[04:41:58.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004891)  
Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:41:59.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004892)  
Thank you po.

**[04:42:00.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004893)  
Ito na lang po ang huli nating mga tanong.

**[04:42:02.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004894)  
Tungkol naman po ito sa tax deduction sa mga negosyo dahil po sa batas na RA 10754

**[04:42:10.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004895)  
that expands the benefits and privileges of persons with disabilities.

**[04:42:14.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004896)  
Sa PWD tax deduction ng mga establishments,

**[04:42:18.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004897)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[04:42:20.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004898)  
bukod sa kakulangan o hindi talaga pagsumite ng mga records of sales kasama ang mga pangalan

**[04:42:26.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004899)  
ng persons with disability, PWD ID,

**[04:42:30.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004900)  
at kung applicable yung TIN nila,

**[04:42:32.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004901)  
may iba po bang pwedeng rason kung bakit magdedisallow ang claim para sa tax deduction?

**[04:42:58.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004902)  
Mrs. Speaker, Your Honors,

**[04:42:59.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004903)  
sa palagay po namin under the BIR,

**[04:43:05.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004904)  
wala po namang mga cases wherein dinidisallow yung claim na lalo-lalo na po

**[04:43:10.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004905)  
by PWD because this is also enforcement ito po ng batas.

**[04:43:15.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004906)  
Lahat po nang may mga exception, discounts na lalo-lalo na po itong mga persons with disability,

**[04:43:25.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004907)  
ay dapat po talaga na magkaroon po silang ng discount sa kanilang,

**[04:43:29.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004908)  
any transaction that they entered into by virtue of the compliance with the law.

**[04:43:34.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004909)  
Mrs. Speaker, Your Honors.

**[04:43:36.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004910)  
Unfortunately, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor,

**[04:43:39.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004911)  
pinapatungkol na po natin ito siguro sa Bureau of Internal Revenue,

**[04:43:44.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004912)  
meron pong mga nakarating na ulat sa amin na mga maliliit na nagninegosyo

**[04:43:49.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004913)  
na hindi napapayagan ang claim nila para sa tax deductions.

**[04:43:54.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004914)  
Naging isa nung usap-usapin yung pagkakaroon ng fake PWD ID.

**[04:43:57.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004915)  
Ngunit, para sa kinatawa na ito, hindi po dapat ipinapasa ang bigat ng pagtitiyak na lehitimo ang PWD IDs

**[04:44:09.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004916)  
o kung ano pang mga records na isinumite lang naman po sa kanila sa mga establishments, lalo na sa small businesses.

**[04:44:17.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004917)  
Yes, may online verification system, pero hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon na na-update ito.

**[04:44:23.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004918)  
So, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, final manifestation na lang na baka po pwedeng imbestigahan ito

**[04:44:28.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004919)  
at makahingi na rin ng mga detalye ukol po dito kung meron naman pong nakapagsumite ng any grievance

**[04:44:36.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004920)  
na katulad ng inihain ngayon dito sa floor na gusto natin hindi na po maulit, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

**[04:44:44.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-004921)  
With the indulgence of our distinguished colleague, the Honorable Co.

**[04:44:48.820] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-004922)  
Your time is up. Distinguished Sponsor, please respond briefly.

**[04:44:52.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004923)  
Yes. Yes.

**[04:44:53.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004924)  
Aaksyonan po yan ng BIR at gusto po namin kung maaari magbigay po kayo sa

**[04:44:59.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004925)  
ating kang galang-galang nakabataan party list representative ng listahan kung saan po itong mga negosyo,

**[04:45:05.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004926)  
ano po yung mga negosyo ito, saan lugar, para po ma-imbestigahan ng Bureau of Internal Revenue, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:45:11.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004927)  
Hindi po natin ito tolerate yung mga ganyan, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:45:14.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-004928)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Good sponsor.

**[04:45:15.700] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-004929)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:45:17.260] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-004930)  
Madam Speaker, next to interpolate the sponsor, I move to recognize Representative Sergio Dagooc of APEC Party List.

**[04:45:26.800] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-004931)  
The Honorable Sergio Dagooc of Party List APEC is recognized for his interpolation.

**[04:45:42.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004932)  
Thank you. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[04:45:46.880] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004933)  
Ang akin bang kaibigan na pinanggalingan ng ating Hydro ay tumatanggap ng mga ilang katanungan.

**[04:45:56.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004934)  
Ang pinupuntahan po ng hydropower ay tatanggapin po kung saan ito pupunta.

**[04:46:04.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004935)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[04:46:08.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004936)  
Una, para mabilis tayo, yes or no na lang.

**[04:46:12.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004937)  
Sige po.

**[04:46:13.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004938)  
FIRB, are you willing to revisit FIRB Resolution No. 24-87?

**[04:46:26.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004939)  
Yes, sir.

**[04:46:30.120] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004940)  
If you are willing, for the record, ano yung hakbang na gagawin ninyo para ma-resolve ba yung issue ng mga electric cooperatives sa kanilang income tax exemption?

**[04:46:45.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004941)  
Nakala ko ba yes or no answer lang?

**[04:46:47.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004942)  
Hindi, yun na nga. Yung hakbang.

**[04:46:50.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004943)  
...

**[04:46:53.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004944)  
Again, the part of that process is also we will take the advice of the Department of Justice, isa po yun sa mga particular na steps just to confirm the legality,

**[04:47:06.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004945)  
Mrs. Speaker, itong resolution po na ito, Mrs. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:47:11.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004946)  
Yung bang legality na yan includes raising the issue to the Department of Justice?

**[04:47:17.960] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004947)  
Yes or no ninyo?

**[04:47:19.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004948)  
Tama po yun. Yes.

**[04:47:20.240] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004949)  
Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor. Thank you, FIRB.

**[04:47:26.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004950)  
Ang susunod ko pong katanungan, sobrang taas na po ang ating kuryente. Sobrang taas na po ang ating oil.

**[04:47:36.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004951)  
So, papayag po ba ang ating Bureau of Internal Revenue, Department of Finance Family, naarali ninyo yung isang scheme, no?

**[04:47:51.820] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004952)  
na

**[04:47:52.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004953)  
Halimbawa,

**[04:47:54.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004955)  
mayroon naman talaga kayong ginagawang price reference to project magkano yung revenue natin sa oil, sa electricity.

**[04:48:05.940] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004956)  
Mayroon po ba tayong price reference na ginagawa para mabuo yung target natin revenue for the year?

**[04:48:15.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004957)  
Mayroon po, Mrs. Speaker, kasama po yun sa macro assumptions po na pinresenta po natin kanina.

**[04:48:21.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004958)  
So, yes or no lang sana yun eh?

**[04:48:24.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004959)  
Yes po. Yes po.

**[04:48:25.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004960)  
So, ngayon.

**[04:48:26.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004961)  
Kung halimbawa, ang price reference natin sa diesel ay 60 pesos.

**[04:48:35.220] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004962)  
Ngayon, pag umabot ng 140 pesos, definitely napakataas yung more than double yung windfall natin kasi nakapix yung 12%.

**[04:48:47.580] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004963)  
Pwede po ba ninyong aralin na kapagka umabot na ng 70, 80, 90, I'm not saying na...

**[04:48:56.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004964)  
Huwag nating kuliktahin.

**[04:48:58.680] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004965)  
Kuliktahin pa rin natin para walang mawawala doon sa price reference.

**[04:49:03.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004966)  
Kahit kuliktahin pa natin yung excess sa price reference, pero papayag ba kayo aralin ninyo kung anong hanggang anong liby lang.

**[04:49:13.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004967)  
Halimbawa, umabot na ng 140, hanggang anong amount lang na pwede pa nating patawan ng tax.

**[04:49:20.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004968)  
70, 80, 90.

**[04:49:23.380] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004969)  
So, siguro, sobra na yun. Walang mawawala sa atin.

**[04:49:26.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004970)  
Okay, pag-aaralan po yan, Mr. Speaker, at magandang rekomendasyon po yan, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:49:31.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004971)  
Thank you.

**[04:49:32.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004972)  
Doon sa kuryente, ganon din po ang gagawin natin.

**[04:49:37.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004973)  
Ang gumagalaw sa kuryente, yung generation charge.

**[04:49:41.180] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004974)  
Hindi po gumagalaw yung distribution, supply, metering charge.

**[04:49:47.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004975)  
Generation at transmission lang.

**[04:49:49.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004976)  
Pwede din po bang aralin ng DOF, BIR, na

**[04:49:54.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004978)  
magkaroon

**[04:49:55.900] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004979)  
tayo ng

**[04:49:56.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004982)  
threshold.

**[04:49:58.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004983)  
Halimbawa, magpasa tayo ng batas,

**[04:50:03.240] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004984)  
uutosan natin ang Energy Regulatory Commission

**[04:50:05.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004985)  
to issue the benchmark of generation cost per type of technology.

**[04:50:13.060] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004986)  
Halimbawa, ang coal-fired na planta ay 8 pesos yung benchmark.

**[04:50:19.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004987)  
Kapag nagmahal yung coal,

**[04:50:22.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004988)  
o abot siya ng 10, 12,

**[04:50:25.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004989)  
na hindi na natin patawan yung halimbawa 8, 9, sige, i-charge pa natin, 9.50, 10.

**[04:50:34.600] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004990)  
Baka pupwede naarali natin na hindi na natin patawan yung sobrang-sobrang na kasi yung ibang nagbabayad ng kuryente,

**[04:50:44.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004991)  
kawawa, hindi ninyo nakita kasi manok na lang ang ibigay para hindi maputulan.

**[04:50:50.780] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004992)  
Can you commit naarali ninyo yan?

**[04:50:53.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004993)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:50:55.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-004994)  
Mayroon pong pag-aaral na po ginagawa, sinasagawa ngayon, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[04:50:59.740] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004995)  
So, that's all.

**[04:51:02.340] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004996)  
Kuryente lang na po, Sir.

**[04:51:03.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004997)  
Nag-issue na si DBCC ba?

**[04:51:07.440] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004998)  
Nag-issue.

**[04:51:08.380] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-004999)  
Yung ano ngayon natin, yung suspension ng...

**[04:51:11.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005000)  
Sinong nag-issue?

**[04:51:13.520] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005001)  
Yung suspension natin yung LPG ba?

**[04:51:15.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005002)  
At saka excise tax?

**[04:51:17.720] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005003)  
May in-issue na tayo?

**[04:51:23.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005004)  
Nag-recommend po nito,

**[04:51:25.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005005)  
ang DBCC.

**[04:51:26.360] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005006)  
Nag-recommend na?

**[04:51:27.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005007)  
Yes, nag-recommend ba sa Presidente, Mr. Speaker?

**[04:51:29.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005008)  
Ang LPG?

**[04:51:33.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005009)  
Pumirma na rin po ang Department of Finance, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:51:37.060] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005010)  
Okay. So, maraming salamat at na-recommend na ninyo.

**[04:51:41.460] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005011)  
Ang tanong ko, yung aviation fuel ay LPG yun.

**[04:51:50.020] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005012)  
Kasama po ba ang aviation fuel?

**[04:51:52.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005013)  
Hindi po.

**[04:51:55.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005014)  
Hindi po kasama yung aviation fuel, Mr. Speaker.

**[04:51:56.800] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005015)  
Hindi kasama.

**[04:51:57.980] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005016)  
Ngayon, last na katanungan.

**[04:52:00.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005017)  
Hindi na po to answerable by yes or no, pero dipindi sa sagot mo.

**[04:52:05.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005018)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[04:52:08.000] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005019)  
kapag ka sinuspend ni Presidente yung tax na yan,

**[04:52:15.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005020)  
anong mekanisim at anong agency ang mag-monitor

**[04:52:20.560] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005021)  
na yung reduction dahil...

**[04:52:25.080] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005022)  
Reduction in cost dahil sa suspension ay totoong na-replique.

**[04:52:30.660] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005023)  
Halimbawa, sa pump price, sa cost of products and services.

**[04:52:35.480] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005024)  
Dahil kung hindi natin na-monitor yun,

**[04:52:38.200] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005025)  
baka nawalan tayo ng rebinyo,

**[04:52:40.920] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005026)  
kumita pa lalo yung mga nagninigosyo.

**[04:52:44.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005027)  
Mayroon bang mekanisim? Anong agency?

**[04:52:46.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005028)  
Mayroon po, Mr. Speaker, ang DOE po.

**[04:52:48.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005029)  
Ang DOE, pag gumaba po ng $80 per liter ang ating gasolina,

**[04:52:54.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005030)  
sasabihan po ng DOE,

**[04:52:55.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005031)  
na-advise niya po ang Department of Finance.

**[04:52:58.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005032)  
I hope, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor,

**[04:53:02.160] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005033)  
I hope na kakayanin ng Department of Energy yung monitoring.

**[04:53:08.560] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005034)  
Alam ko, ilang tao lang yung Department of Energy.

**[04:53:11.700] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005035)  
Siguro, tingnan to ng Department of Finance

**[04:53:15.280] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005036)  
kasi nasasayang yung gusto natin, yung objective,

**[04:53:19.500] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005037)  
ay napoporfit kung hindi makareplique

**[04:53:25.060] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005038)  
ang nabawas doon sa cost sa retail price or pump price.

**[04:53:34.320] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005039)  
I hope na titignan ulit ng DOF

**[04:53:38.300] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005040)  
kung kakayanin ni DOE.

**[04:53:41.420] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005041)  
Kung hindi, gagawa tayo ng pamamaraan na talagang mabawas yun.

**[04:53:46.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005042)  
Sa ngayon po, binabantayan po ng DOE, again,

**[04:53:50.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005043)  
ongoing po naman talaga yung adjustment po.

**[04:53:52.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005044)  
So, definitely, babantayan po ng DOE.

**[04:53:55.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005045)  
Sorry, Department of Finance po itong sinasabi po ng ating kagalang-galang na

**[04:54:00.260] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005046)  
Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor. Thank you, DOF family.

**[04:54:04.840] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-005047)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:54:06.940] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-005048)  
Majority Leader.

**[04:54:09.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-005049)  
Madam Speaker, next to interpolate the sponsor,

**[04:54:15.020] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-005050)  
I move to recognize Representative Antonio Tino of ACT Teachers Partylist.

**[04:54:20.040] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-005051)  
The Honorable Tino of Partylist ACT Teachers

**[04:54:22.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-005052)  
is recognized

**[04:54:24.400] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-005053)  
for his interpellation.

**[04:54:25.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005055)  
Madam Speaker, can I, with all due respect to the next interpolator,

**[04:54:30.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005056)  
can I request for a few minutes suspension?

**[04:54:33.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005057)  
Just a few minutes.

**[04:54:38.860] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-005058)  
Session suspended for one minute.

**[04:57:08.340] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-005072)  
Session resumed. The Honorable Tino is recognized for his interpellation.

**[04:57:16.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005072-split-2)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[04:57:25.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005073)  
Ah, to the sponsor. Well, ang paksa po natin would be ah debt, no, dahil sa Department of Finance po ito. Ah, so, o po, meron po tayong ilang mga um datos at presentation. Okay? So una, pinapakita po yung national government outstanding debt.

**[04:57:52.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005074)  
Bumalik tayo ng isang dekada up to 2016 at kita po talaga natin yung pambihirang paglaki ng debt, no. Um, madalas sinasabi na lumaki daw ang utang lalo na nung panahon ng pandemya, ah, dahil kinailangang umutang, pero ah nagtuloy-tuloy ang paglaki nito hanggang sa kasalukuyan. So 2016, the national government outstanding debt stood at 6. 09 trillion.

**[04:58:22.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005075)  
Ah, and by 2026, 19. 77 77 trillion, although projected pa yan kasi hindi pa tapos ang taon. Tapos ang projection naman for 2027 will be 21. 48 trillion. No, ang mga datos na to nanggaling po sa BF. So galing din po sa DOF and economic managers. So yan po, para makita lang natin.

**[04:58:52.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005076)  
And then the next tab there, added each year. Ay hindi po, hindi yan. Added each year. So dito po makikita yung ah nadagdag na utang kada taon, no? So, in other words, magkano ang dinagdag na utang ng, ah, for example, Duterte administration and then Marcos Jr. administration.

**[04:59:26.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005077)  
So makikita natin na, ah, ayan po, well, totoo nung 2020 talagang lumaki ang inutang ng gobyerno, no. 2019, 0. 44 44 trillion ang nadagdag sa utang, pero nung ah 2020 ay lumobo po ito, 2. 06 trillion, no.

**[04:59:51.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005078)  
At mula doon, ang pinakamababang nadagdag na was the year 2023, 1. 2 trillion.

**[05:00:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005079)  
And muli ngayong 2026, saabot sa 2.06 trillion, same level as 2020, pandemic.

**[05:00:10.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005080)  
Tapos ang projection for 2027, 1.7 trillion.

**[05:00:16.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005081)  
So mamaya, ito total natin magkano yung inutang ng Marcos Jr. administration so far.

**[05:00:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005082)  
O yung dinagdag niya sa total outstanding debt stock.

**[05:00:31.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005083)  
Okay.

**[05:00:33.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005084)  
So ang point po ay papalaki talaga ang utang.

**[05:00:38.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005085)  
And of course, pagpapalaki ang utang, papalaki rin ang binabayaran sa utang.

**[05:00:43.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005086)  
So balik na tayo dun sa debt service.

**[05:00:46.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005087)  
Debt service, ayan na po.

**[05:00:49.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005088)  
So again, from 2016 to 2026 and then 2027.

**[05:00:54.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005089)  
Yung blue, principal amortization.

**[05:01:01.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005090)  
Yung orange, interest payments.

**[05:01:04.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005091)  
So combined, nakita natin.

**[05:01:07.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005092)  
Noong 2016, 0.79 trillion or 790 billion ang combined principal and interest payments.

**[05:01:21.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005093)  
Pero ngayon nga, sa ilalim ng Marcos Jr.

**[05:01:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005094)  
administration, ay papalaki ito.

**[05:01:26.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005095)  
Especially in 2024, we see, umabot sa 2.02 trillion.

**[05:01:31.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005096)  
And then, there will, according to projections of DOF,

**[05:01:36.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005097)  
2027, may malaking paglaki po ng babayaran sa utang.

**[05:01:43.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005098)  
2.7 trillion.

**[05:01:46.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005099)  
Okay.

**[05:01:47.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005100)  
So, pabigat po ng pabigat ang ating debt burden.

**[05:01:51.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005101)  
Kung baga, no?

**[05:01:54.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005102)  
Okay.

**[05:01:57.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005103)  
Ano po ang paliwanag?

**[05:02:00.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005104)  
Bakit papalaki?

**[05:02:02.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005105)  
Noong up to 2016 and before the pandemic,

**[05:02:07.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005106)  
sinasabi talaga ng Department of Finance,

**[05:02:09.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005107)  
nagiging manageable na raw

**[05:02:11.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005108)  
ang utang natin.

**[05:02:14.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005109)  
At totoo nga,

**[05:02:16.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005110)  
below 1 trillion na yung combined na binabayaran sa utang.

**[05:02:21.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005111)  
Pero ngayon, lumobo na.

**[05:02:24.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005112)  
Over 2 trillion ang babayaran sa utang.

**[05:02:29.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005113)  
Yes, Mr. Speaker, again,

**[05:02:33.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005114)  
well, okay naman talaga, kung titignan mo naman talaga,

**[05:02:35.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005115)  
Mr. Speaker, as what projected,

**[05:02:37.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005116)  
tumataas yung utang.

**[05:02:39.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005117)  
Pero this utang naman is not necessarily na

**[05:02:41.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005118)  
that would worry us.

**[05:02:45.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005119)  
Kasi lumalaki yung utang natin,

**[05:02:46.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005120)  
kasi lumalaki yung expenses na paggagamitan,

**[05:02:48.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005121)  
then lumalaki yung ating ekonomiya.

**[05:02:50.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005122)  
Ang benchmark po naman talaga,

**[05:02:52.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005123)  
pag, para makikita,

**[05:02:54.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005124)  
sabi po natin ay medyo offhand na,

**[05:02:57.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005125)  
ay babalik po tayo doon sa 56.4 benchmark natin

**[05:03:01.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005126)  
dun sa debt to GDP.

**[05:03:04.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005127)  
Na doon naman ang benchmark naman is 70% rate

**[05:03:09.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005128)  
na masasabi.

**[05:03:11.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005129)  
Halimbawa, doon sa benchmark po ng

**[05:03:13.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005130)  
International Monetary Fund,

**[05:03:17.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005131)  
World Bank, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:03:19.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005132)  
na kung saan, pag ito po ay sumobra doon,

**[05:03:23.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005133)  
ay doon po tayo,

**[05:03:24.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005134)  
magkakaroon ng problema.

**[05:03:25.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005135)  
Pero so far,

**[05:03:27.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005136)  
medyo malayo pa po tayo doon.

**[05:03:29.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005137)  
In fact, way below po tayo.

**[05:03:31.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005138)  
So, yes, nangungutang po tayo

**[05:03:33.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005139)  
dahil po lumalago ang ating ekonomiya

**[05:03:36.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005140)  
at dumadami po ang paggagastusan

**[05:03:38.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005141)  
ng ating bansa,

**[05:03:40.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005142)  
Mr. Speaker.

**[05:03:41.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005143)  
Lumalaki ang utang dahil lumalago

**[05:03:44.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005144)  
ang ekonomiya

**[05:03:45.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005145)  
at lumalaki ang gastusin.

**[05:03:49.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005146)  
Yes po.

**[05:03:49.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005147)  
At may inflation na rin po.

**[05:03:51.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005148)  
Lumalaki rin ang bayad utang, no?

**[05:03:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005149)  
Pero sinabi niyong lumalaki ang ekonomiya

**[05:03:55.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005150)  
although for this year in particular,

**[05:03:59.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005151)  
malaki po ang binagal

**[05:04:03.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005152)  
ng paglaki ng ekonomiya,

**[05:04:06.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005153)  
hindi po ba?

**[05:04:07.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005154)  
Sabi po, second quarter of

**[05:04:09.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005155)  
2.3% growth only.

**[05:04:14.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005156)  
Samantalang ang target ng gobyerno

**[05:04:18.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005157)  
nasa mga gusto nila,

**[05:04:20.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005158)  
4 to 6%,

**[05:04:21.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005159)  
hindi po ba?

**[05:04:22.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005160)  
So, way below

**[05:04:24.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005161)  
even the projections of the economic manager.

**[05:04:28.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005162)  
So, taliwas po sa sinasabi niyo,

**[05:04:31.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005163)  
umuutang para lumago ang ekonomiya.

**[05:04:33.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005164)  
Sa totoo lang, lumaki ang utang

**[05:04:35.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005165)  
pero bumabagal

**[05:04:36.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005166)  
and significantly bumagal

**[05:04:39.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005167)  
ang paglaki ng ekonomiya,

**[05:04:41.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005168)  
hindi po ba?

**[05:04:42.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005169)  
Well, may kasabihan po tayo,

**[05:04:44.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005170)  
No man is an island.

**[05:04:45.320] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005171)  
So, ibig sabihin,

**[05:04:46.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005172)  
ang ekonomiya on a larger scale,

**[05:04:48.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005173)  
nag-apektohan din po yan

**[05:04:49.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005174)  
ng international lakalakaran.

**[05:04:51.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005175)  
So, may nangyayari po,

**[05:04:52.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005176)  
ngayon, nakaguluhan

**[05:04:53.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005177)  
sa gitnang silangan.

**[05:04:56.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005178)  
So, hindi po natin inaasahan yun,

**[05:04:58.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005179)  
mayroon talagang epekto po

**[05:05:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005180)  
sa ating ekonomiya.

**[05:05:01.580] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005181)  
So, ito po ito sa mga factor

**[05:05:02.960] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005182)  
kung bakit medyo bumagal

**[05:05:04.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005183)  
yung sinasabi po natin,

**[05:05:05.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005184)  
tumaas yung inflation,

**[05:05:06.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005185)  
tumaas talaga yung gastusin

**[05:05:07.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005186)  
dahil po sa isang bagay

**[05:05:09.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005187)  
na hindi natin kontrolado.

**[05:05:11.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005188)  
At is importante is,

**[05:05:12.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005189)  
nagre-respond naman po tayo

**[05:05:13.900] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005190)  
at base po sa ating

**[05:05:15.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005191)  
macroeconomic assumptions,

**[05:05:18.080] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005192)  
ito po ay nagdidirekta

**[05:05:20.100] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005193)  
sa ating paano ma-achieve ito

**[05:05:21.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005194)  
at nagungutang nga tayo.

**[05:05:22.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005195)  
Tama po.

**[05:05:23.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005196)  
Dahil po yun nga,

**[05:05:24.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005197)  
meron po talaga tayong

**[05:05:25.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005198)  
intended na pagagastusan

**[05:05:27.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005199)  
para lumago po

**[05:05:28.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005200)  
ang ating kalakaran sa ating

**[05:05:30.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005201)  
domestically,

**[05:05:31.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005202)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:05:33.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005203)  
Well,

**[05:05:34.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005204)  
No man is an island.

**[05:05:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005205)  
May economic crisis,

**[05:05:39.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005206)  
pandayigdigang economic crisis.

**[05:05:41.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005207)  
You know, one main reason,

**[05:05:43.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005208)  
of course,

**[05:05:44.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005209)  
the U.S. war against Iraq.

**[05:05:47.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005210)  
Sa kabila nun,

**[05:05:49.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005211)  
ay pinakamabagal,

**[05:05:50.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005212)  
isa sa mga pinakabagal,

**[05:05:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005213)  
mabagal sa paglago

**[05:05:55.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005214)  
ang Pilipinas.

**[05:05:57.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005215)  
Kung ikukumpara,

**[05:05:59.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005216)  
kahit sa mga kapitbahay lang natin

**[05:06:00.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005217)  
sa Southeast Asia.

**[05:06:01.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005218)  
For example,

**[05:06:03.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005219)  
Singapore, 5.1%

**[05:06:06.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005220)  
for 2026.

**[05:06:08.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005221)  
Indonesia, 5.3%.

**[05:06:10.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005222)  
And Vietnam,

**[05:06:12.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005223)  
8.2%.

**[05:06:13.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005224)  
So, sa kabila po ng,

**[05:06:15.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005225)  
sa kabila ng,

**[05:06:17.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005226)  
sabi mo nga, pare-parehong dumadaan sa crisis.

**[05:06:19.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005227)  
Pero bakit yung mga kapitbahay?

**[05:06:21.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005228)  
Imagine Vietnam,

**[05:06:22.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005229)  
8.2%.

**[05:06:24.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005230)  
So, ibig sabihin po,

**[05:06:30.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005231)  
yes,

**[05:06:32.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005232)  
lahat dumadaan sa crisis,

**[05:06:34.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005233)  
pero dahil sa mga patakaran ng gobyerno,

**[05:06:37.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005234)  
ay maaaring

**[05:06:39.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005235)  
maigpawan yan.

**[05:06:41.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005236)  
Diba?

**[05:06:41.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005237)  
And unfortunately,

**[05:06:43.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005238)  
isa sa mga kulelat sa ASEAN,

**[05:06:46.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005239)  
ang Pilipinas.

**[05:06:47.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005240)  
Well, unang-una po, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:06:49.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005241)  
is dahil ang Pilipinas,

**[05:06:50.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005242)  
we entire with our dependent on

**[05:06:52.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005243)  
oil supply.

**[05:06:54.040] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005244)  
Hindi po tulad ng mga ating mga kapitbahay sa ASEAN

**[05:06:57.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005245)  
na may mga sarili po silang

**[05:06:59.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005246)  
langis, no?

**[05:07:02.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005247)  
Tulad ng Malaysia, Indonesia.

**[05:07:04.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005248)  
So, unfortunately, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:07:06.600] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005249)  
this is what

**[05:07:07.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005250)  
the current situation right now

**[05:07:09.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005251)  
as far as, you know,

**[05:07:12.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005252)  
as far as how we're dependent on

**[05:07:14.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005253)  
portation of international petroleum.

**[05:07:17.300] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005254)  
And that international petroleum

**[05:07:18.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005255)  
prices is not being

**[05:07:20.500] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005256)  
controlled.

**[05:07:22.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005257)  
Mr. Speaker, by the Philippines.

**[05:07:24.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005258)  
In fact, dumadaan po ito sa

**[05:07:26.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005259)  
samutsaring proseso.

**[05:07:29.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005260)  
At bawat proseso po ito,

**[05:07:30.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005261)  
may kaakibat po ito na

**[05:07:32.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005262)  
pandagdag presyo.

**[05:07:33.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005263)  
Dahil nga po,

**[05:07:34.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005264)  
pagdating po sa atin,

**[05:07:36.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005265)  
ay medyo, ano po tayo,

**[05:07:38.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005266)  
kapos po tayo.

**[05:07:39.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005267)  
Kung ikukumpira po natin

**[05:07:40.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005268)  
ang sarili natin

**[05:07:41.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005269)  
sa mga bansa sa ASEAN

**[05:07:43.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005270)  
na meron po silang dependency

**[05:07:45.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005271)  
pagdating po sa supply

**[05:07:46.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005272)  
ng kanilang petrolyo,

**[05:07:47.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005273)  
Mr. Speaker, your honor.

**[05:07:49.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005274)  
Okay.

**[05:07:50.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005275)  
Well,

**[05:07:50.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005276)  
ah,

**[05:07:52.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005277)  
tama po, okay.

**[05:07:55.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005278)  
Narinig po natin yung inyong

**[05:07:57.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005279)  
paliwanag, pero

**[05:07:59.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005280)  
hindi sufficient na sabihin na

**[05:08:01.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005281)  
well, yung iba kasi meron silang

**[05:08:03.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005282)  
langis, no?

**[05:08:04.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005283)  
Vietnam,

**[05:08:05.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005284)  
dependent,

**[05:08:08.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005285)  
heavily dependent on imports

**[05:08:10.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005286)  
as well, katulad natin sa Pilipinos,

**[05:08:12.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005287)  
pero sabi nga, 8.2 sila.

**[05:08:14.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005288)  
Tayo nasa little over 2%.

**[05:08:16.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005289)  
Pita, Tassid May,

**[05:08:18.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005290)  
punta na tayo dun sa isa pang

**[05:08:20.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005291)  
bahagi nung sinabi nyo na,

**[05:08:22.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005292)  
lumalaki ang utang

**[05:08:23.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005293)  
dahil lumalaki ang gastusin.

**[05:08:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005294)  
So, punta na natin dun sa

**[05:08:27.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005295)  
saan naman napupunta?

**[05:08:29.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005296)  
Siguro yun yung importanteng tanong.

**[05:08:30.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005297)  
Lumalaki ang utang

**[05:08:31.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005298)  
para saan?

**[05:08:34.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005299)  
At para kanino?

**[05:08:35.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005300)  
Para saan yung utang?

**[05:08:37.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005301)  
So, let's go then to the deficit.

**[05:08:40.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005302)  
No?

**[05:08:41.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005303)  
At ang isang malinaw din

**[05:08:43.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005304)  
yung papalaking deficit spending

**[05:08:44.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005305)  
sa budget.

**[05:08:46.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005306)  
Tignan po natin muna yung

**[05:08:48.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005307)  
ah,

**[05:08:50.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005308)  
ah,

**[05:08:50.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005309)  
hindi pa po yan.

**[05:08:52.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005310)  
Yung deficit muna.

**[05:08:58.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005311)  
The deficit which would be

**[05:09:00.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005312)  
hindi pa yan

**[05:09:03.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005313)  
ang gusto natin makita.

**[05:09:06.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005314)  
The budget deficit

**[05:09:08.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005315)  
historically.

**[05:09:10.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005316)  
Paano lumaki ang budget deficit?

**[05:09:12.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005317)  
That would be another table.

**[05:09:15.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005318)  
Another page.

**[05:09:16.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005319)  
Ayan, yan na yun.

**[05:09:17.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005320)  
Okay.

**[05:09:18.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005321)  
So, yan yung

**[05:09:19.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005322)  
no, that's debt service.

**[05:09:22.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005323)  
Anyway, mukhang nalilito

**[05:09:24.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005324)  
yung ating

**[05:09:24.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005325)  
taga-presentation natin.

**[05:09:28.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005326)  
Ahm,

**[05:09:31.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005327)  
magkano po ang budget deficit

**[05:09:33.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005328)  
noong 2020,

**[05:09:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005329)  
20,

**[05:09:34.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005330)  
2016

**[05:09:37.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005331)  
ay

**[05:09:39.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005332)  
nasa 353

**[05:09:41.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005333)  
billion po

**[05:09:42.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005334)  
ang budget deficit.

**[05:09:45.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005335)  
No?

**[05:09:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005336)  
Pero ngayong

**[05:09:46.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005337)  
ah, 2026

**[05:09:49.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005338)  
ay umaabot ito

**[05:09:52.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005339)  
sa,

**[05:09:53.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005340)  
from 353 billion,

**[05:09:55.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005341)  
umaabot na po sa

**[05:09:56.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005342)  
1.6

**[05:09:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005343)  
trillion pesos.

**[05:10:00.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005344)  
No?

**[05:10:01.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005345)  
Ah,

**[05:10:01.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005346)  
and in 2016,

**[05:10:04.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005347)  
deficit was 13%

**[05:10:06.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005348)  
of the expenditure program.

**[05:10:08.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005349)  
2026,

**[05:10:10.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005350)  
24%.

**[05:10:11.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005351)  
So, mas malaking bahagi

**[05:10:12.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005352)  
ng budget

**[05:10:13.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005353)  
ay pinupondohan ng

**[05:10:15.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005354)  
mainly utang.

**[05:10:17.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005355)  
Di ba?

**[05:10:17.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005356)  
Deficit.

**[05:10:18.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005357)  
Yun ang ibig sabihin nun.

**[05:10:19.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005358)  
For 2027,

**[05:10:21.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005359)  
ang projectional

**[05:10:22.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005360)  
ay,

**[05:10:24.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005361)  
ah,

**[05:10:25.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005362)  
it will be

**[05:10:28.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005363)  
1.69.

**[05:10:29.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005364)  
The deficit will be

**[05:10:30.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005365)  
1.69

**[05:10:31.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005366)  
trillion

**[05:10:32.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005367)  
pesos.

**[05:10:34.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005368)  
24%

**[05:10:35.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005369)  
of the total expenditures

**[05:10:37.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005370)  
out of the 7.2

**[05:10:40.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005371)  
billion budget

**[05:10:41.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005372)  
na proposed.

**[05:10:42.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005373)  
Okay, so papalaki

**[05:10:43.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005374)  
ang deficit.

**[05:10:45.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005375)  
No?

**[05:10:46.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005376)  
Pag sinabing deficit,

**[05:10:47.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005377)  
ibig sabihin,

**[05:10:48.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005378)  
ah,

**[05:10:49.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005379)  
meron kang total budget,

**[05:10:51.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005380)  
pero,

**[05:10:51.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005381)  
ah,

**[05:10:52.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005382)  
merong porsyon

**[05:10:53.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005383)  
ng budget

**[05:10:54.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005384)  
na wala kang perang

**[05:10:56.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005385)  
ah,

**[05:10:58.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005386)  
on hand,

**[05:11:00.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005387)  
awak mo,

**[05:11:00.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005388)  
therefore,

**[05:11:01.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005389)  
uutang ka.

**[05:11:02.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005390)  
No, no?

**[05:11:03.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005391)  
So, ganun.

**[05:11:04.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005392)  
Sabi nyo,

**[05:11:05.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005393)  
dito,

**[05:11:06.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005394)  
ginagamit

**[05:11:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005395)  
ang malaking bahagi

**[05:11:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005396)  
ng utang.

**[05:11:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005397)  
Ngayon,

**[05:11:09.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005398)  
ang tanong,

**[05:11:12.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005399)  
sa ano

**[05:11:13.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005400)  
ang

**[05:11:13.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005401)  
ah,

**[05:11:15.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005402)  
pinondohan

**[05:11:16.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005403)  
ng utang na yan?

**[05:11:17.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005404)  
No?

**[05:11:18.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005405)  
So, punta na po tayo

**[05:11:19.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005406)  
dun sa

**[05:11:20.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005407)  
ah,

**[05:11:22.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005408)  
saan nga ba

**[05:11:23.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005409)  
ginamit

**[05:11:25.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005410)  
ang deficit,

**[05:11:26.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005411)  
ang deficit spending?

**[05:11:29.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005412)  
Meron na po,

**[05:11:29.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005413)  
ayan na po.

**[05:11:30.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005414)  
Okay.

**[05:11:32.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005415)  
So,

**[05:11:34.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005416)  
yan.

**[05:11:35.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005417)  
Mag-focus na lang po tayo

**[05:11:36.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005418)  
sa Marcos Jr.

**[05:11:37.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005419)  
Administration.

**[05:11:38.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005420)  
So, for

**[05:11:38.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005421)  
purposes of this

**[05:11:40.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005422)  
interpolation,

**[05:11:41.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005423)  
let's look at the years

**[05:11:42.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005424)  
from 2023

**[05:11:43.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005425)  
to 2026

**[05:11:45.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005426)  
and the proposed

**[05:11:45.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005427)  
for 2027.

**[05:11:47.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005428)  
So, ito yung

**[05:11:48.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005429)  
deficit

**[05:11:49.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005430)  
spending

**[05:11:50.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005431)  
ah,

**[05:11:51.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005432)  
ah,

**[05:11:52.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005433)  
under the Marcos Jr.

**[05:11:53.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005434)  
Administration.

**[05:11:55.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005435)  
So,

**[05:11:56.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005436)  
ang makikita po natin

**[05:11:57.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005437)  
dyan

**[05:11:57.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005438)  
ay

**[05:11:59.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005439)  
2023,

**[05:12:02.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005440)  
1.499

**[05:12:04.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005441)  
ang deficit spending.

**[05:12:06.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005442)  
Yung pula,

**[05:12:08.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005443)  
yan po,

**[05:12:08.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005444)  
yung mga

**[05:12:09.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005445)  
ilang items

**[05:12:10.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005446)  
sa budget

**[05:12:11.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005447)  
na

**[05:12:12.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005448)  
nakakita

**[05:12:14.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005449)  
o na,

**[05:12:15.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005450)  
ay,

**[05:12:15.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005451)  
na nakakita

**[05:12:16.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005452)  
ng pambihirang

**[05:12:17.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005453)  
paglaki.

**[05:12:19.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005454)  
Diba?

**[05:12:19.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005455)  
Yung unusual

**[05:12:20.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005456)  
or

**[05:12:20.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005457)  
kakaibang

**[05:12:21.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005458)  
paglaki.

**[05:12:22.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005459)  
Hindi lang yung

**[05:12:24.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005460)  
taon-taon

**[05:12:25.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005461)  
na

**[05:12:25.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005462)  
more or less

**[05:12:26.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005463)  
ah,

**[05:12:28.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005464)  
naka-benchmark

**[05:12:29.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005465)  
sa inflation

**[05:12:30.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005466)  
among others,

**[05:12:31.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005467)  
no?

**[05:12:32.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005468)  
Okay.

**[05:12:33.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005469)  
Ano yun?

**[05:12:33.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005470)  
So, kung titignan po natin,

**[05:12:35.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005471)  
yung pula.

**[05:12:35.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005472)  
In other words,

**[05:12:38.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005473)  
ito ay

**[05:12:38.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005474)  
pagpapakita

**[05:12:39.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005475)  
kung saan napunta

**[05:12:40.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005476)  
o saan ginamit

**[05:12:41.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005477)  
yung deficit spending.

**[05:12:43.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005478)  
At pakikita po natin,

**[05:12:44.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005479)  
pakihighlight na lang po,

**[05:12:47.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005480)  
ang breakdown

**[05:12:48.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005481)  
nyan

**[05:12:48.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005482)  
ay

**[05:12:51.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005483)  
yung mga

**[05:12:51.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005484)  
tinatawag nating

**[05:12:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005485)  
pork-type

**[05:12:54.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005486)  
programs.

**[05:12:56.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005487)  
No?

**[05:12:56.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005488)  
So, ano-ano

**[05:12:57.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005489)  
ang mga

**[05:12:58.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005490)  
bumubuo nyan?

**[05:13:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005491)  
Kasama dyan,

**[05:13:01.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005492)  
ayan na po.

**[05:13:02.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005493)  
Okay.

**[05:13:03.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005494)  
So, yung

**[05:13:04.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005495)  
paglaki

**[05:13:07.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005496)  
ng

**[05:13:07.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005497)  
DPWH budget,

**[05:13:10.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005498)  
paglaki

**[05:13:10.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005499)  
ng

**[05:13:11.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005500)  
mga

**[05:13:12.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005501)  
ayuda.

**[05:13:15.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005502)  
Kasama dyan

**[05:13:16.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005503)  
ang

**[05:13:16.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005504)  
AICS,

**[05:13:18.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005505)  
MAIT,

**[05:13:19.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005506)  
TUPAD,

**[05:13:20.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005507)  
and

**[05:13:20.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005508)  
similar

**[05:13:21.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005509)  
projects.

**[05:13:22.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005510)  
Kasama dun yung

**[05:13:23.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005511)  
AKAP.

**[05:13:24.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005512)  
No?

**[05:13:24.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005513)  
So, ang punto po natin

**[05:13:26.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005514)  
ay

**[05:13:27.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005515)  
yung utang

**[05:13:29.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005516)  
ay ginamit

**[05:13:31.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005517)  
para sa pork.

**[05:13:32.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005518)  
Yun po ang

**[05:13:33.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005519)  
pinapakita nun.

**[05:13:34.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005520)  
So, kung ibalik natin

**[05:13:35.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005521)  
dun sa unang table,

**[05:13:37.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005522)  
okay,

**[05:13:38.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005523)  
yung gray,

**[05:13:40.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005524)  
yung total,

**[05:13:42.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005525)  
yan ang

**[05:13:42.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005526)  
kabuhaang utang,

**[05:13:45.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005527)  
tapos yung mga

**[05:13:45.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005528)  
tinatawag nating

**[05:13:46.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005529)  
pork items

**[05:13:47.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005530)  
in the budget

**[05:13:48.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005531)  
na may

**[05:13:49.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005532)  
nasaksihan tayong

**[05:13:51.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005533)  
pambihirang paglaki,

**[05:13:52.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005534)  
yun yung mga

**[05:13:53.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005535)  
pork items

**[05:13:54.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005536)  
dito.

**[05:13:55.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005537)  
This includes

**[05:13:56.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005538)  
the flood control

**[05:13:57.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005539)  
projects,

**[05:13:59.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005540)  
this includes

**[05:13:59.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005541)  
the

**[05:14:00.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005542)  
ayuda

**[05:14:02.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005543)  
projects,

**[05:14:03.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005544)  
nasaan napunta?

**[05:14:06.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005545)  
Napunta sa,

**[05:14:08.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005546)  
alam natin,

**[05:14:08.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005547)  
flood control,

**[05:14:09.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005548)  
napunta sa

**[05:14:10.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005549)  
corruption.

**[05:14:12.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005550)  
Yung

**[05:14:12.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005551)  
ayuda,

**[05:14:14.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005552)  
syempre sabihin,

**[05:14:15.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005553)  
napunta yan

**[05:14:16.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005554)  
sa taong bayan.

**[05:14:17.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005555)  
Totoo.

**[05:14:18.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005556)  
Pero sa

**[05:14:19.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005557)  
pamamagitan

**[05:14:19.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005558)  
ng

**[05:14:20.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005559)  
pamumulitika

**[05:14:22.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005560)  
or patronage,

**[05:14:23.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005561)  
diba,

**[05:14:23.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005562)  
dumadaan sa

**[05:14:24.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005563)  
politiko.

**[05:14:26.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005564)  
So,

**[05:14:27.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005565)  
tama kayo,

**[05:14:30.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005566)  
yung utang

**[05:14:31.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005567)  
lumaki

**[05:14:31.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005568)  
dahil

**[05:14:32.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005569)  
mas maraming

**[05:14:33.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005570)  
pinagastusan

**[05:14:34.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005571)  
ang punto natin

**[05:14:35.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005572)  
sa napunta.

**[05:14:37.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005573)  
Ano ang

**[05:14:38.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005574)  
pinagastusan?

**[05:14:39.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005575)  
Well,

**[05:14:39.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005576)  
ang pinapakita po

**[05:14:40.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005577)  
natin,

**[05:14:41.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005578)  
pinagastusan

**[05:14:41.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005579)  
ay

**[05:14:42.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005580)  
flood control

**[05:14:44.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005581)  
na napunta

**[05:14:46.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005582)  
sa corruption.

**[05:14:47.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005583)  
Pangalawa,

**[05:14:49.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005584)  
paglaki,

**[05:14:49.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005585)  
pambihirang

**[05:14:50.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005586)  
paglaki

**[05:14:51.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005587)  
ng ayuda.

**[05:14:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005588)  
Kaya po,

**[05:14:56.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005589)  
ang nangyari,

**[05:14:56.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005590)  
as a result,

**[05:14:58.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005591)  
ang nangyari,

**[05:15:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005592)  
ay matinding corruption.

**[05:15:04.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005593)  
Hanggang ngayon, pinapanagot pa rin natin yung mga dapat managot.

**[05:15:08.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005594)  
Pangalawang nangyari, dahil sa paglaganap ng ayuda,

**[05:15:11.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005595)  
naging ayuda nation tayo.

**[05:15:14.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005596)  
Epekto niyan sa eleksyon.

**[05:15:15.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005597)  
Ito po, alam ko, ang ating sponsor ay chair din ng

**[05:15:19.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005598)  
Committee on Suffrage and Electoral Reforms.

**[05:15:24.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005599)  
Ano nangyari sa eleksyon, sa mga nakaraang eleksyon,

**[05:15:27.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005600)  
sa ganitong kalakaran?

**[05:15:28.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005601)  
E talagang bumabaha ang ayuda.

**[05:15:31.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005602)  
Related to patronage, related to vote buying,

**[05:15:35.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005603)  
and related to the greater influence and dominance of political dynasties

**[05:15:46.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005604)  
in our society.

**[05:15:50.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005605)  
So, yan po ang maaring conclusion natin.

**[05:15:57.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005606)  
Na ang utang natin,

**[05:15:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005607)  
ay para sa pork.

**[05:16:02.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005608)  
Ito ba ang maipagmamalaki ng administrasyon

**[05:16:06.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005609)  
sa mas malalim na pagkakabaon natin sa utang?

**[05:16:11.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005610)  
Yun po ang tanong sa DOF, sa sponsor, sa DOF, at sa mga economic managers.

**[05:16:18.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005611)  
Well, unang-una, naintindihan po natin ang projection

**[05:16:21.840] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005612)  
ng ating kagalang-galang na interpolator.

**[05:16:24.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005613)  
Pero hindi lang huyon naman ang pinupondohan.

**[05:16:26.680] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005614)  
As far as Department of...

**[05:16:28.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005615)  
of Finance is concerned,

**[05:16:30.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005616)  
ang pinaka-primary consideration,

**[05:16:32.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005617)  
again, paulit-ulit ko po sinasabi,

**[05:16:34.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005618)  
ay paano po kumuha ng sapat na gastos

**[05:16:36.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005619)  
para mababigyan po ng ating gobyerno

**[05:16:39.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005620)  
na mag-spend ng mga necessary expenses ng government.

**[05:16:44.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005621)  
Una, kung titignan po natin ng projection na yun,

**[05:16:48.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005622)  
yung illustration po na yun,

**[05:16:50.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005623)  
sabi ko nga,

**[05:16:52.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005624)  
yung mga na-identify ay ongoing naman din ang investigation noon.

**[05:16:58.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005625)  
Pero ang importante po, Mr. Speaker, ay una,

**[05:17:01.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005626)  
kung titignan po natin yung actual

**[05:17:03.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005627)  
ng national government deficit,

**[05:17:07.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005628)  
nung umupo po ang...

**[05:17:09.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005629)  
tungkasalukuyang administrasyon,

**[05:17:11.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005630)  
President Bongbong Marcos,

**[05:17:13.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005631)  
meron ko pong 7.3 na deficit

**[05:17:18.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005632)  
to GDP

**[05:17:20.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005633)  
ang naitala.

**[05:17:22.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005634)  
Pero habang...

**[05:17:24.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005635)  
from 2002, naging 6.2.

**[05:17:26.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005636)  
Ah...

**[05:17:28.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005637)  
2023, naging 5.7.

**[05:17:30.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005638)  
Ah...

**[05:17:31.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005639)  
And then 2024, 5.6.

**[05:17:34.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005640)  
2025, 5.4.

**[05:17:37.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005641)  
At pa 20...

**[05:17:38.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005642)  
2026, 5.1.

**[05:17:42.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005643)  
So, pababa po yung trend.

**[05:17:43.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005644)  
Yun na po importante ngayon.

**[05:17:45.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005645)  
Bakit?

**[05:17:46.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005646)  
Bakit nangungutang?

**[05:17:47.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005647)  
Habang dumaraki po talaga yung gastusin,

**[05:17:49.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005648)  
dumaraki yung ekonomiya,

**[05:17:50.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005649)  
halimbawa, eh kailangan mo talagang umutang,

**[05:17:53.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005650)  
halimbawa, kasi mas lalo na lumaki yung gastusin mo.

**[05:17:56.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005651)  
Pero what is important po is,

**[05:17:57.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005652)  
base po dito sa data natin,

**[05:18:00.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005653)  
bumababa po yung deficit to GDP.

**[05:18:02.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005654)  
Ah...

**[05:18:03.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005655)  
Yun po importante.

**[05:18:04.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005656)  
Ngayon, sabi ko nga po, since 2022,

**[05:18:07.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005657)  
hanggang kasalukuyan,

**[05:18:09.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005658)  
ay mataas na po yung...

**[05:18:11.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005659)  
I mean, sorry,

**[05:18:12.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005660)  
malaki na po yung ibinaba nung deficit to GDP,

**[05:18:14.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005661)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:18:16.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005662)  
Okay.

**[05:18:17.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005663)  
Ah, Mr. Speaker, to summarize

**[05:18:19.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005664)  
yung mga pinresent natin kanina,

**[05:18:21.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005665)  
ito na po yung ah...

**[05:18:23.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005666)  
table na nagkocombine nung mga datos na yun.

**[05:18:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005667)  
No?

**[05:18:26.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005668)  
Yung utang,

**[05:18:27.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005669)  
yung deficit,

**[05:18:28.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005670)  
at saka kung saan napunta to.

**[05:18:30.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005671)  
Okay. So,

**[05:18:31.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005672)  
ah, kung itaas lang po natin

**[05:18:32.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005673)  
para makita yung ah...

**[05:18:34.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005674)  
headline figures,

**[05:18:35.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005675)  
so,

**[05:18:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005676)  
eight point...

**[05:18:38.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005677)  
sa ilalim ng Marcos Jr. Administration,

**[05:18:41.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005678)  
so, from 2023,

**[05:18:42.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005679)  
24,

**[05:18:43.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005680)  
25,

**[05:18:44.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005681)  
26,

**[05:18:45.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005682)  
and yung projected for 2027,

**[05:18:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005683)  
ang ah...

**[05:18:49.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005684)  
mangyayari, ah, bagong utang na 8.06 trillion.

**[05:18:53.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005685)  
No?

**[05:18:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005686)  
Kung pagsasamahin natin yung nadagdag

**[05:18:56.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005687)  
sa outstanding debt,

**[05:18:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005688)  
ganun po,

**[05:19:00.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005689)  
8.06 trillion.

**[05:19:02.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005690)  
No?

**[05:19:03.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005691)  
Ah, and ah...

**[05:19:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005692)  
kung pagsasamahin natin yung gov...

**[05:19:07.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005693)  
yung ah...

**[05:19:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005694)  
combined national government deficits

**[05:19:11.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005695)  
for the budgets for that period,

**[05:19:14.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005696)  
7.95 trillion.

**[05:19:17.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005697)  
No?

**[05:19:18.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005698)  
So, for the most part,

**[05:19:19.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005699)  
yung bagong utang

**[05:19:21.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005700)  
is there to cover the deficit.

**[05:19:23.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005701)  
No?

**[05:19:24.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005702)  
Ah, of course,

**[05:19:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005703)  
meron pang iba yan.

**[05:19:26.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005704)  
Binabayaran mo yung mga iba pang utang,

**[05:19:28.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005705)  
so on and so forth.

**[05:19:29.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005706)  
Okay?

**[05:19:30.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005707)  
Ah, and then,

**[05:19:32.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005708)  
of that,

**[05:19:34.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005709)  
of that deficit,

**[05:19:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005710)  
4.98 trillion

**[05:19:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005711)  
yung ating computation

**[05:19:41.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005712)  
dun sa iba't ibang tipo

**[05:19:43.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005713)  
ng hard and soft

**[05:19:45.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005714)  
pork barrel spending.

**[05:19:47.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005715)  
So, infrastructure,

**[05:19:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005716)  
tsaka

**[05:19:49.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005717)  
patronage-based

**[05:19:51.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005718)  
ayuda,

**[05:19:52.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005719)  
or access to social services.

**[05:19:55.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005720)  
No?

**[05:19:56.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005721)  
So, 4.98 trillion.

**[05:19:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005722)  
No?

**[05:19:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005723)  
Ah, kaya,

**[05:20:01.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005724)  
at kung titignan natin yung table,

**[05:20:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005725)  
ayan,

**[05:20:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005726)  
okay,

**[05:20:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005727)  
makita natin talaga,

**[05:20:07.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005728)  
totoo,

**[05:20:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005729)  
na sa unang hati ng taon,

**[05:20:10.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005730)  
talagang nakita natin yung excesses

**[05:20:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005731)  
ng pork barrel spree

**[05:20:16.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005732)  
ng Marcos Junior Administration.

**[05:20:19.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005733)  
Talagang pinalobo ng gusto

**[05:20:21.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005734)  
yung flood control

**[05:20:23.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005735)  
at iba pang forma ng infrastructure,

**[05:20:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005736)  
yan yung pula,

**[05:20:26.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005737)  
tapos pinalaki ng gusto

**[05:20:28.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005738)  
yung para sa ayuda.

**[05:20:29.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005739)  
2023,

**[05:20:31.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005740)  
2024,

**[05:20:32.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005741)  
2025.

**[05:20:33.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005742)  
Kita nyo rin naman,

**[05:20:35.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005743)  
2026,

**[05:20:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005744)  
2027,

**[05:20:37.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005745)  
significant na pagbaba.

**[05:20:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005746)  
Bakit bumaba?

**[05:20:40.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005747)  
Yung pork spending.

**[05:20:42.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005748)  
Dahil po, pumutok na yung kontrobersya

**[05:20:44.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005749)  
ng flood control.

**[05:20:45.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005750)  
No, kaya,

**[05:20:47.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005751)  
supposedly,

**[05:20:49.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005752)  
ah, may pagrerenda,

**[05:20:50.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005753)  
may pagbawas,

**[05:20:52.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005754)  
kaya dito sa ating pinili

**[05:20:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005755)  
ay lumiit ang mga indicators.

**[05:20:56.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005756)  
Pero sa totoo lang,

**[05:20:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005757)  
ah,

**[05:20:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005758)  
hindi ganun kalaki,

**[05:21:00.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005759)  
kasignifikant ang pag-iit.

**[05:21:02.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005760)  
Anyway, so,

**[05:21:03.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005761)  
yun po yung point natin.

**[05:21:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005762)  
No?

**[05:21:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005763)  
And so,

**[05:21:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005764)  
ah,

**[05:21:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005765)  
the main point

**[05:21:09.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005766)  
that we're making here

**[05:21:10.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005767)  
is that,

**[05:21:11.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005768)  
ah,

**[05:21:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005769)  
the unprecedented,

**[05:21:15.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005770)  
ah,

**[05:21:17.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005771)  
hyperscaling

**[05:21:19.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005772)  
of pork spending

**[05:21:21.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005773)  
that happened

**[05:21:23.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005774)  
under the Marcos Jr. administration

**[05:21:26.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005775)  
was fueled by

**[05:21:29.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005776)  
debt.

**[05:21:30.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005777)  
No?

**[05:21:31.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005778)  
Kaya lalong nabaon sa utang,

**[05:21:33.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005779)  
ah, ang ating mamamayan.

**[05:21:35.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005780)  
At anong nakuha?

**[05:21:37.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005781)  
Ang nakuha natin

**[05:21:38.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005782)  
ay,

**[05:21:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005783)  
ah,

**[05:21:41.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005784)  
largely ineffective flood control.

**[05:21:44.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005785)  
Mga ghost project,

**[05:21:46.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005786)  
mga under,

**[05:21:47.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005787)  
ah, mga,

**[05:21:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005788)  
ah,

**[05:21:50.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005789)  
ah,

**[05:21:51.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005790)  
overpriced

**[05:21:52.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005791)  
at ineffective

**[05:21:53.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005792)  
na flood control project.

**[05:21:55.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005793)  
Kaya nga,

**[05:21:56.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005794)  
sa halip na,

**[05:21:57.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005795)  
ah,

**[05:21:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005796)  
mabawasan

**[05:21:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005797)  
ay lalong lumalala

**[05:22:00.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005798)  
ang baha.

**[05:22:01.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005799)  
Yun ang isa.

**[05:22:03.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005800)  
Corruption.

**[05:22:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005801)  
Pangalawa,

**[05:22:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005802)  
massive expansion

**[05:22:07.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005803)  
of pork.

**[05:22:09.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005804)  
No?

**[05:22:10.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005805)  
So, yung, ah,

**[05:22:11.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005806)  
expansion ng patronage system,

**[05:22:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005807)  
sa halip na

**[05:22:14.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005808)  
maging karapatan

**[05:22:16.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005809)  
ang social services,

**[05:22:17.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005810)  
ito ay magiging utang na loob

**[05:22:20.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005811)  
sa politiko.

**[05:22:22.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005812)  
Ganun po.

**[05:22:23.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005813)  
Kaya palagi po nakikita natin,

**[05:22:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005814)  
nag-aagawan

**[05:22:26.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005815)  
pag pinag-uusapan natin ang budget ng DOH

**[05:22:29.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005816)  
or ng CHED,

**[05:22:31.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005817)  
saan ba ilalagay ito?

**[05:22:33.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005818)  
Sa budget mismo ng ospital

**[05:22:35.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005819)  
o ng unibersidad?

**[05:22:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005820)  
O sa budget para sa scholarship?

**[05:22:38.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005821)  
No?

**[05:22:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005822)  
Kasi yung scholarship,

**[05:22:40.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005823)  
yun ay,

**[05:22:42.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005824)  
ah,

**[05:22:43.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005825)  
patronage based.

**[05:22:45.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005826)  
No? Samantala,

**[05:22:46.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005827)  
kung ilalagay mo sa institusyon,

**[05:22:49.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005828)  
yun ang maaaring gamitin

**[05:22:51.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005829)  
para sa expansion ng pasilidad,

**[05:22:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005830)  
para sa pagpaunlad ng kalidad

**[05:22:56.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005831)  
ng edukasyon.

**[05:22:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005832)  
No?

**[05:22:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005833)  
So,

**[05:23:00.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005834)  
edukasyon o kalusugan.

**[05:23:02.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005835)  
So, yan po

**[05:23:03.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005836)  
ang, ah,

**[05:23:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005837)  
resulta.

**[05:23:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005838)  
And to conclude,

**[05:23:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005839)  
kasabihin ng,

**[05:23:09.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005840)  
sinasabi ng administrasyon,

**[05:23:12.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005841)  
na,

**[05:23:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005842)  
well, dahil dito,

**[05:23:15.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005843)  
naabot natin ang,

**[05:23:18.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005844)  
ah,

**[05:23:20.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005845)  
ang, ah,

**[05:23:22.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005846)  
ano yun?

**[05:23:23.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005847)  
Ang upper middle income

**[05:23:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005848)  
ah, status.

**[05:23:27.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005849)  
Tama po ba?

**[05:23:28.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005850)  
No?

**[05:23:29.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005851)  
Ah, ngunit,

**[05:23:30.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005852)  
ah,

**[05:23:33.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005853)  
there are different kinds of growth.

**[05:23:35.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005854)  
Di po ba,

**[05:23:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005855)  
ah, Mr. Speaker?

**[05:23:38.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005856)  
No?

**[05:23:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005857)  
In the same way,

**[05:23:40.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005858)  
na,

**[05:23:41.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005859)  
sa nutrisyon,

**[05:23:43.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005860)  
merong, ah,

**[05:23:44.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005861)  
iba't ibang tipo ng

**[05:23:46.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005862)  
calories.

**[05:23:47.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005863)  
No?

**[05:23:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005864)  
And there is such a thing as junk food

**[05:23:50.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005865)  
and junk calories.

**[05:23:52.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005866)  
No?

**[05:23:53.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005867)  
What are junk calories?

**[05:23:57.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005868)  
Yan po ay ang mga calories na

**[05:24:00.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005869)  
walang laman,

**[05:24:01.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005870)  
walang nutrisyon.

**[05:24:03.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005871)  
Ah,

**[05:24:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005872)  
sabi po,

**[05:24:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005873)  
ah,

**[05:24:10.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005874)  
junk calories,

**[05:24:12.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005875)  
known as empty calories.

**[05:24:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005876)  
Energy from foods that provide high amounts of calories.

**[05:24:18.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005877)  
Yes?

**[05:24:19.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005878)  
Mostly from added sugar,

**[05:24:21.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005879)  
solid fats,

**[05:24:22.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005880)  
and refined carbohydrates.

**[05:24:24.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005881)  
While offering little to no essential nutrients

**[05:24:28.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005882)  
like protein,

**[05:24:29.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005883)  
fiber,

**[05:24:30.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005884)  
vitamins,

**[05:24:31.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005885)  
or minerals.

**[05:24:32.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005886)  
No? Ang gusto ko lang po sabihin,

**[05:24:34.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005887)  
na,

**[05:24:35.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005888)  
ah,

**[05:24:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005889)  
this is an analogy.

**[05:24:37.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005890)  
No?

**[05:24:38.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005891)  
Well, totoo,

**[05:24:39.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005892)  
merong economic growth.

**[05:24:41.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005893)  
No? Pero, ah, ah,

**[05:24:42.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005894)  
there are different kinds of growth.

**[05:24:45.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005895)  
No? Merong growth na talagang lumilikha

**[05:24:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005896)  
ng mas maraming trabaho.

**[05:24:50.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005897)  
Ah,

**[05:24:51.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005898)  
nagpapaangat.

**[05:24:52.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005899)  
Ah,

**[05:24:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005900)  
pang matagalang nagpapaangat

**[05:24:56.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005901)  
sa mamamayan,

**[05:24:57.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005902)  
sa kahirapan.

**[05:24:58.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005903)  
No?

**[05:24:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005904)  
Dahil nakabatay sa,

**[05:25:01.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005905)  
ah,

**[05:25:02.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005906)  
paglikha ng trabaho.

**[05:25:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005907)  
Sa agrikultura,

**[05:25:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005908)  
sa industriya.

**[05:25:07.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005909)  
No?

**[05:25:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005910)  
At siguro masasabi natin,

**[05:25:09.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005911)  
ganyan ang nakikita natin sa ating mga kapitbahay.

**[05:25:11.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005912)  
Kaya naiiwan na tayo.

**[05:25:12.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005913)  
Notably, for example,

**[05:25:13.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005914)  
Vietnam,

**[05:25:16.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005915)  
which is driven by

**[05:25:18.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005916)  
manufacturing.

**[05:25:20.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005917)  
No? Ah,

**[05:25:21.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005919)  
growth in their manufacturing,

**[05:25:23.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005920)  
Ah,

**[05:25:23.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005921)  
matagal nang naiwanan tayo sa agrikultura.

**[05:25:26.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005922)  
No?

**[05:25:27.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005923)  
Kaya nga nag-i-import tayo

**[05:25:29.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005924)  
ng bigas sa kanila.

**[05:25:30.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005925)  
So, yun yung

**[05:25:31.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005926)  
isang tipo ng growth.

**[05:25:32.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005927)  
Meron namang isang tipo ng growth,

**[05:25:34.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005928)  
na,

**[05:25:36.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005929)  
tawagin natin,

**[05:25:37.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005930)  
kung may junk calories,

**[05:25:38.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005931)  
meron ding junk growth.

**[05:25:39.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005932)  
No?

**[05:25:41.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005942)  
Totoo,

**[05:25:41.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005943)  
the headline figures

**[05:25:42.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005944)  
will increase,

**[05:25:44.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005945)  
sabi na bawasan daw ang mahirap,

**[05:25:46.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005946)  
no,

**[05:25:47.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005947)  
pero sa totoo lang,

**[05:25:48.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005948)  
kung tatanungin mo ang ordinaryong mamamayan,

**[05:25:52.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005949)  
ah,

**[05:25:53.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005950)  
di nila na-ra-ramdaman

**[05:25:54.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005951)  
ang pagiging middle income status,

**[05:25:56.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005952)  
no,

**[05:25:57.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005953)  
bakit hindi?

**[05:25:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005954)  
Dahil,

**[05:26:00.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005955)  
napataas

**[05:26:02.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005956)  
ang,

**[05:26:03.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005957)  
ah,

**[05:26:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005958)  
o napababa daw ang poverty rate,

**[05:26:05.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005959)  
dahil sa ayuda.

**[05:26:07.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005960)  
Dahil sa tupad,

**[05:26:08.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005961)  
napaba,

**[05:26:09.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005962)  
napaba-

**[05:26:10.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005963)  
pababa ang unemployment rate.

**[05:26:14.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005964)  
Pero hindi naman lumikha ng pangmatagalang trabaho,

**[05:26:19.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005965)  
hindi lumikha ng livelihood o kabuhayan,

**[05:26:23.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005966)  
kung hindi ayuda.

**[05:26:25.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005967)  
So, to conclude, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:26:28.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005968)  
unfortunately, the current model

**[05:26:31.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005969)  
pursued by the Marcos Jr. administration,

**[05:26:36.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005970)  
led by the economic managers,

**[05:26:39.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005971)  
including the Department of Finance,

**[05:26:42.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005972)  
has been a debt-driven junk growth.

**[05:26:48.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005973)  
Hindi lumilika ng pangmatagalang trabaho at kabuhayan,

**[05:26:54.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005974)  
lalo na sa agrikultura at industriya.

**[05:26:58.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005975)  
Nakadepende sa pagwaldas ng malaking public funds

**[05:27:08.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005976)  
sa

**[05:27:09.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005977)  
public infrastructure,

**[05:27:12.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005978)  
katulad ng flood control na hindi tunay na pakikinabangan ng mamamayan

**[05:27:16.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005979)  
at pinagbumulan ng malaking corruption

**[05:27:20.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005980)  
at

**[05:27:21.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005981)  
ayuda,

**[05:27:24.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005982)  
paglaki ng ayuda

**[05:27:25.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005983)  
na pansamantalang magbibigay ng tulong,

**[05:27:30.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005984)  
ngunit hindi ng pangmatagalang trabaho at kabuhayan sa mamamayan.

**[05:27:34.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005985)  
So, hanggang doon na lamang po, Madam Speaker,

**[05:27:39.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005986)  
Yan ang kailangang baguhin sa kasalukuyang budget.

**[05:27:42.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005987)  
At hindi lang budget ang kailangang baguhin,

**[05:27:44.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005988)  
kailangang baguhin yung buong economic model.

**[05:27:47.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005989)  
Hindi na po pwede

**[05:27:48.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005990)  
ang debt-driven,

**[05:27:51.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005991)  
pork-fueled,

**[05:27:55.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005992)  
debt-driven,

**[05:27:57.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005993)  
debt-fueled,

**[05:27:59.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005994)  
pork-driven

**[05:28:00.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005995)  
economic growth

**[05:28:01.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005996)  
na nakikita natin ngayon.

**[05:28:03.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-005997)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[05:28:06.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005998)  
Maraming salamat,

**[05:28:08.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-005999)  
Mrs. Madam Speaker,

**[05:28:09.140] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006000)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:28:12.520] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006001)  
Madam Speaker,

**[05:28:14.000] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006002)  
next to interpolate the sponsor,

**[05:28:15.740] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006003)  
I move to recognize Representative Presley C. De Jesus

**[05:28:19.380] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006004)  
of Philreca Partylist.

**[05:28:22.280] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006005)  
The Honorable Presley De Jesus of Partylist Philreca

**[05:28:25.660] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006006)  
is recognized for his interpolation.

**[05:28:29.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006007)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

**[05:28:31.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006008)  
Of course, the

**[05:28:32.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006009)  
distinguished sponsor,

**[05:28:34.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006010)  
medyo limang oras na siya,

**[05:28:36.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006011)  
so I'll make it short.

**[05:28:38.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006012)  
Madam Speaker,

**[05:28:39.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006013)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[05:28:40.480] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006014)  
again,

**[05:28:42.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006015)  
being representative of all the cooperatives,

**[05:28:44.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006016)  
ito po,

**[05:28:44.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006017)  
ito yung sa mga kooperatiba po,

**[05:28:46.540] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006018)  
I have only a few questions.

**[05:28:49.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006019)  
Ang una pong tanong,

**[05:28:50.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006020)  
ano ho ang primary reason

**[05:28:52.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006021)  
bakit hirap na hirap makakuha

**[05:28:55.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006022)  
o mag-renew,

**[05:28:57.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006023)  
mag-renew ng CTE

**[05:28:58.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006024)  
ang mga cooperatives natin?

**[05:29:03.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006025)  
Ito po yung Certificate of Tax Exemption.

**[05:29:51.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006037)  
Mr. Speaker, Your Honor, sa una po, nire-require po talaga natin yung tax, yung TIN number po nila.

**[05:30:00.000] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006038)  
Pero sa ngayon ay may mga adjustments po ang ginagawa ngayon ng BIR.

**[05:30:03.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006039)  
Nakakapag-renew naman po sila as part of the ease of doing business.

**[05:30:07.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006040)  
Kaya hindi na po natin nire-require yung kanilang...

**[05:30:11.660] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006041)  
Hindi na po ngayon in-strictly enforce yung requirement po ng pag-submit niya kanila ng TIN.

**[05:30:17.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006042)  
Alam niyo po, Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor.

**[05:30:21.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006043)  
Karamihan po sa mga small kooperativa, yung mga magsasaka, alalayo ng lugar niyan.

**[05:30:27.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006044)  
So, alam niyo, karamihan sa kanila, no read, no write.

**[05:30:31.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006045)  
So, pag pumunta sa bayan niyan, baka pagtawanan sila, hindi nga nilanam kung ano ibig sabihin ng TIN.

**[05:30:37.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006046)  
So, yung sa amin po, konting unawa sa kanila.

**[05:30:41.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006047)  
But again, I know, sa BIR, kailangan talaga may TIN ka.

**[05:30:46.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006048)  
Kasi nga, identifier yan, para ka lang kumuha din ng national ID.

**[05:30:50.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006049)  
So, you need that.

**[05:30:51.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006050)  
But again, pag isa bang cooperative ang maliit, natin ka malalayong lugar,

**[05:30:56.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006051)  
eh ang kanyang kooperativa, kung nyari, kooperativa ABC,

**[05:31:02.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006052)  
di ba yun lang ang dapat i-registro, hindi yung mga member niya.

**[05:31:05.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006053)  
Pati ba member, kailangan i-registro?

**[05:31:08.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006054)  
Sa ngayon, kaya nga po sabihin ng BIR ngayon, hindi naman siya strictly in-enforce na ngayon.

**[05:31:13.820] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006055)  
Kasi nga, nakiki, minsan nakikipag-deal na lang po sila doon sa kooperativa kung saan miyembro itong mga individuals na po ito.

**[05:31:23.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006056)  
So, again, ang BIR.

**[05:31:26.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006057)  
Nais naman po talaga maintindihan ng kalagayan ng ating mga kababayan.

**[05:31:30.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006058)  
Ngunit, kailangan din po balansin ang BIR doon sa pangangailangan ng batas kung saan.

**[05:31:35.020] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006059)  
Iri-require po ng batas ang ating BIR na mag-request po ng TIN as part of the compliance, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:31:44.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006060)  
Kaya nga po sila, ina-adjust nga po nila, not strictly enforced, kasi naintindihan din po nila yung kalagayan ng ating mga kababayan.

**[05:31:53.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006061)  
And directly dealing with the cooperatives.

**[05:31:56.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006062)  
Rather than the previous implementation that individual members should have to produce the TIN number, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:32:02.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006063)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

**[05:32:05.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006064)  
Is there any time that you just review it, you know, for the sake of argument?

**[05:32:12.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006065)  
Para naman makita at marinig nila na talagang gumagawa po ang kanilang kooperativa at the same time,

**[05:32:18.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006066)  
the BIR will adjust para naman sa kanila.

**[05:32:21.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006067)  
To make sure na talaga naman lahat tayo ay binibigay.

**[05:32:24.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006068)  
I know that the BIR...

**[05:32:26.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006069)  
Bread and butter natin is BIR talaga.

**[05:32:29.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006070)  
That's why I salute and I always approve your budget.

**[05:32:34.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006071)  
Kumbaga kasama niyo po ako na sumasaludo at kasama niyo po akong 100% na gusto rin ma-approve ang inyong budget.

**[05:32:43.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006072)  
But with this cooperative na malilit, no?

**[05:32:46.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006073)  
Sana mapagbigyan din natin.

**[05:32:47.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006074)  
Just look into it.

**[05:32:48.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006075)  
Kung anong pwede natin i-adjust para sa kanila.

**[05:32:51.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006076)  
Can you commit that? Madam Speaker,

**[05:32:53.760] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006078)  
Yes po. We can guarantee.

**[05:32:55.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006079)  
Good.

**[05:32:56.400] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006080)  
Gentleman po.

**[05:32:57.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006081)  
With that adjustment.

**[05:32:58.160] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006082)  
Thank you po.

**[05:32:58.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006083)  
Thank you.

**[05:32:59.120] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006084)  
Again, ito naman sa mga nagpapadala din sa akin ng sulat tungkol naman sa mga ating mga jeepney,

**[05:33:06.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006085)  
mga bus operator, ating mga manggawa.

**[05:33:09.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006086)  
Kasi ngayon, ang conserge Dagok mentioned na windfall ba.

**[05:33:14.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006087)  
Ito bang, inanon natin yung ating forecast natin for next year's budget.

**[05:33:22.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006088)  
Di ba?

**[05:33:22.220] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006089)  
Nakapag-forecast kayo.

**[05:33:24.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006090)  
Yung per liter nyo na excise tax.

**[05:33:26.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006091)  
At what amount did you peg it?

**[05:33:31.060] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006092)  
60 pesos ba per liter ba?

**[05:33:33.140] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006093)  
When you do, yung ginawa nyo yung ano nyo, o 70 pesos.

**[05:33:38.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006094)  
Okay.

**[05:33:38.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006095)  
Yung excess po kasi, determination of the excess is the volume of the commodity, no?

**[05:33:46.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006096)  
Petroleum.

**[05:33:46.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006097)  
So, in that, the fuel rather than the price.

**[05:33:49.080] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006098)  
By volume.

**[05:33:49.860] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006099)  
Yes, by volume rather than the price po, Mrs. Speaker.

**[05:33:51.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006100)  
Do you think?

**[05:33:52.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006101)  
Because right now, before it was 60 or 70 now, became 1.

**[05:33:56.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006102)  
100 pesos per liter.

**[05:33:58.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006103)  
So, may windfall ba yan, o wala?

**[05:34:00.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006104)  
Tingin nyo.

**[05:34:01.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006105)  
Yun yung, that would be the amount arrived at kung impose po natin additional VAT, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:34:07.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006106)  
So, what can we tell them, at least marilib sila?

**[05:34:10.740] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006107)  
Because in excess of 70 pesos, as you know, pwede ba natin silang tanggal yung excise tax?

**[05:34:15.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006108)  
So, the government has to do it.

**[05:34:17.860] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006109)  
O kayo ba, kayo on your end, the DOF, o hindi nila kaya?

**[05:34:22.440] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006110)  
Yeah.

**[05:34:24.340] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006111)  
Oo.

**[05:34:24.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006112)  
Yun nga po.

**[05:34:25.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006113)  
So, I think kung di ako nagkakamali, di ba,

**[05:34:28.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006114)  
na wala na yung ex...

**[05:34:31.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006115)  
Yeah.

**[05:34:32.540] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006116)  
Yeah.

**[05:34:33.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006117)  
In fact, Mrs. Speaker, yung mga sinasabi po natin, this has been brought out earlier, yung mga VAT collection po natin on petroleum products, ito po yung pinaggagastusan natin doon sa identified na mga subsidies and assistance.

**[05:34:50.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006118)  
Ito ang uplift program po ng gobyerno.

**[05:34:53.280] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006119)  
Kasi nga po, nasa kalagayan po.

**[05:34:55.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006120)  
At tayo kung saan, hindi pa rin po stable yung nangyayari sa gitnang silangan na naka-apekto po sa pag-produce ng ating supply ng petrolyo.

**[05:35:07.200] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006121)  
So, yun po yung in-explain po natin kanina.

**[05:35:09.800] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006122)  
Kailangan meron din tayong pagkukunan kung paano po natin mag-responde sa mga pangangailangan ng ating mga kababayan habang tumataas po ang lahat ng presyo ng commodities, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:35:22.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006123)  
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:35:25.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006124)  
Madam Speaker, of course, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[05:35:27.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006125)  
Madam Speaker, sorry.

**[05:35:29.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006126)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, ito naman, pagdala ito ng mga cockpit owners because I think last month, ni-raid daw sila, kinuha daw yung mga machine nila, pinag-penalize sila, e wala pa naman daw guidelines ang BIR when it comes to that.

**[05:35:44.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006127)  
So, ano ba ang pakakaiba ng POS sa special purpose machine na ginagamit nila?

**[05:35:55.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006128)  
...

**[05:36:17.180] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006128-split-2)  
Unang-una po, Mr. Speaker, itong mga betting machines required na po talaga sila na maiano nila, i-register po nila.

**[05:36:24.640] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006129)  
So, ito po yung ni-raid po at kinolecta, ito po yung mga unregistered na mga betting machines at kung sila po ay makakapagrehistro, ibabalik naman po sa kanila ito ng ating Bureau of Internal Revenue, Mr. Speaker.

**[05:36:40.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006130)  
It is a small cockpit operation kung saan meron pong mga betting equipment, machines na hindi po nila nare-register.

**[05:36:49.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006131)  
Ina-impose lang po naman yung law enforcement side of the BIR.

**[05:36:52.900] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006132)  
Madam Speaker, my question is,

**[05:36:55.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006133)  
Do you consider the betting machine same thing as point of sale or POS o magkaiba sila?

**[05:37:04.920] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006134)  
Asensya na po, pwede pong pakaiulit yung...

**[05:37:07.020] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006135)  
Yung POS, because when you use POS, yung point of sale, yun ang ginagamit when you buy goods and services, di ba, sa mga malls.

**[05:37:16.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006136)  
Ngayon, yung machine betting ng mga cockpit owners naman, is that considered special purpose machine?

**[05:37:25.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006137)  
Pagbabalik po ako sa data, Mr. Speaker, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:37:36.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006138)  
Under the law po, Madam Speaker, Your Honor, either POS or PMS, talagang subject po siya for registration.

**[05:37:43.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006139)  
So, wala pong choice exception, choice ang BIR ba to impose the law at wala pong exception na nakasulat po doon sa batas, Madam Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:37:54.550] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006140)  
Madam Speaker.

**[05:37:55.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006141)  
Distinguished sponsor.

**[05:37:57.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006142)  
Hindi naman sila, sila gusto naman daw nila magbayad ng tax, so no question about that.

**[05:38:03.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006143)  
Kasi gusto lang din nila malaman, ngayon nanonood sila lahat.

**[05:38:07.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006144)  
Gusto lang nila malaman, anong rate at saan yung kukunin?

**[05:38:10.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006145)  
Sa total bet ba?

**[05:38:12.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006146)  
Sa net income nila, kasi nalilito sila.

**[05:38:45.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006149)  
Well, pinagwap sa ngayon po, kasi meron pong, meron po talaga sa batas na 18% of the amusement tax, no?

**[05:38:53.060] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006150)  
Pero ang sinasabi po nitong mga,

**[05:38:55.360] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006151)  
ating mga kababayan ay magkaroon

**[05:38:57.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006152)  
yung sila masubject dun sa 18%

**[05:38:59.720] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006153)  
na gross

**[05:39:00.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006154)  
sales po ng kanilang

**[05:39:03.380] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006155)  
itong mga cockpit

**[05:39:05.880] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006156)  
na ito. Pero ito po ay

**[05:39:07.260] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006157)  
compliance with the law, sabi nga po ng BIR.

**[05:39:09.520] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006158)  
Pero ito po pinag-aaralan, kaya nga po

**[05:39:11.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006159)  
nag-create ng TWG

**[05:39:12.700] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006160)  
ang ating BIR para

**[05:39:14.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006161)  
masolusyonan din po at mabigyan pansin

**[05:39:17.420] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006162)  
itong mga complaints na ito.

**[05:39:19.740] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006163)  
Pero definitely po ang BIR

**[05:39:21.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006164)  
ang kanyang lang po ginawa ay alinsinod

**[05:39:23.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006165)  
po sa

**[05:39:25.240] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006166)  
batas na wala pong kinaclassify

**[05:39:27.120] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006167)  
between the PMS and the POS

**[05:39:29.140] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006168)  
pagdating po dun sa certification

**[05:39:31.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006169)  
itong mga betting machines

**[05:39:33.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006170)  
na po ito, Mr. Speaker, Your Honor.

**[05:39:34.780] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006171)  
Pero pinag-uusapan po ito sa TWG

**[05:39:36.980] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006172)  
kasi gusto rin pong

**[05:39:38.480] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006173)  
masolusyonan ng BIR

**[05:39:41.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006174)  
itong ganitong klaseng

**[05:39:42.560] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006175)  
sirkumstansya po, Mr. Speaker,

**[05:39:45.220] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006176)  
Your Honor.

**[05:39:45.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006176-split-2)  
Alam nyo kasi ito,

**[05:39:47.180] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006177)  
matagal na ito, parte ng kultura natin.

**[05:39:49.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006178)  
Tradition na ito eh, no?

**[05:39:50.980] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006179)  
Panoon pa ng Kastila. Ngayon ang point nila,

**[05:39:52.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006180)  
willing naman daw sila mag-settle.

**[05:39:54.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006181)  
Pero,

**[05:39:55.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006182)  
the 18%, I think that's

**[05:39:57.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006183)  
old code, tax code pa yan eh. Matagal na yan eh.

**[05:40:00.800] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006184)  
Kumbaga, hindi na nyo

**[05:40:02.320] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006185)  
binago yan eh. So if you apply that,

**[05:40:05.100] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006186)  
ang mga feed mills,

**[05:40:06.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006187)  
ang mga lot, pati

**[05:40:08.000] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006188)  
mga

**[05:40:08.960] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006189)  
pharmaceutical, mababankrap,

**[05:40:12.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006190)  
milyon ang mawawalan nating kababayan.

**[05:40:14.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006191)  
At aasa na naman yan

**[05:40:15.440] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006192)  
sa ayuda ng ating mga

**[05:40:17.560] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006193)  
because of the small tax na gusto nyo

**[05:40:20.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006194)  
impose sa kanila,

**[05:40:21.300] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006195)  
eh, babaksak ang kanila.

**[05:40:23.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006196)  
Malaki ito, ang industry.

**[05:40:24.500] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006197)  
So sa feed mills lang, kumikita na kayo.

**[05:40:27.260] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006198)  
Alam ni Secretary ng DF yan.

**[05:40:30.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006199)  
Pangalawa, ang mga breeders,

**[05:40:32.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006200)  
nag-employ ng mga tao.

**[05:40:34.520] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006201)  
Ito'y pangkalatan to.

**[05:40:36.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006202)  
Kaya sana baguhin nyo

**[05:40:38.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006203)  
ang, yung tax code na 18%,

**[05:40:40.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006204)  
matagal na yan, luma na yan.

**[05:40:41.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006205)  
So kailangan nyo improve. Ngayon,

**[05:40:43.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006206)  
saan niyo ba kukunin yung

**[05:40:45.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006207)  
tax na kukunin? Sa gross ba?

**[05:40:47.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006208)  
O sa net income?

**[05:40:49.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006209)  
Gusto lang malaman nila.

**[05:40:52.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006210)  
Kasi pag sa...

**[05:40:53.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006211)  
Well, unang-una po, Mrs. Speaker,

**[05:40:55.620] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006212)  
Madam Speaker, Your Honor,

**[05:40:56.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006213)  
again, nakipag-usap na rin yan po ang

**[05:40:58.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006214)  
BIR sa mga cockpit operators.

**[05:41:00.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006215)  
Ongoing discussion na nga po itong nangyayari.

**[05:41:02.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006216)  
So merong kasalukuyan, so...

**[05:41:04.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006217)  
Yes po. In fact, in fact, nag-meet na po sila

**[05:41:06.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006218)  
with the cockpit operators.

**[05:41:08.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006219)  
And there's also, as a result of that meeting,

**[05:41:10.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006220)  
eh, nag-create po ng technical working group

**[05:41:12.940] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006221)  
para po masolusyon itong problema.

**[05:41:14.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006222)  
Anyway, nagpasa rin ako resolution dito,

**[05:41:16.940] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006223)  
calling BIR. And one more question before I move, no?

**[05:41:20.580] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006224)  
Kasi alam ko, matagal na kayo, kaya ayoko narikipano.

**[05:41:23.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006225)  
Sana, huwag na kayo magpala...

**[05:41:25.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006226)  
Sulatan nyo sila.

**[05:41:27.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006227)  
Huwag nyo na silang i-raid.

**[05:41:29.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006228)  
Nire-raid nyo. Mga legal naman yan, eh.

**[05:41:31.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006229)  
Nagre-raid kayo.

**[05:41:33.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006230)  
Nagtataka ko ba't i-raid? Pwede naman silang puntahan.

**[05:41:35.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006231)  
Huwag nyo silang tatakutin.

**[05:41:37.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006232)  
Bumibisita po ang BIR sa mga cockpit, ano.

**[05:41:40.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006233)  
So wala pong raid. O, makakaasa po sila

**[05:41:43.460] Rep. Ziaur-Rahman "Zia" Alonto Adiong** (asr-006234)  
na makikipag-ugnayan po. Yes po.

**[05:41:45.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006235)  
They are welcome, but huwag nyo i-re-raid.

**[05:41:47.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006236)  
Ipapasara ka agad. Eh, tingnan nyo muna.

**[05:41:49.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006237)  
Kasi wala kayong guidelines, eh.

**[05:41:51.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006238)  
Unang-una, walang guidelines ang BIR.

**[05:41:53.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006239)  
Pagdating diyan. No?

**[05:41:55.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006240)  
So sana naman, maayos natin ito.

**[05:41:57.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006241)  
Kasi willing silang magbayad.

**[05:41:59.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006242)  
Willing naman. Lahat naman ito mapag-anoan.

**[05:42:01.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006243)  
Anyway, the next time na you already have a technical working group,

**[05:42:06.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006244)  
ay sana maayos natin lahat ito.

**[05:42:10.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006245)  
Lahat naman dapat kumita.

**[05:42:12.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006246)  
Kaganyan sinasabi ko, BIR...

**[05:42:15.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006247)  
Bread and butter. But again,

**[05:42:17.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006248)  
Mr. Madam Speaker,

**[05:42:23.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006249)  
I know it's been too long.

**[05:42:25.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006250)  
Madam Speaker, there being no more

**[05:42:28.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006251)  
members of the minority

**[05:42:30.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006252)  
who wishes to interpolate,

**[05:42:32.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006253)  
I move to terminate

**[05:42:34.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006254)  
the sponsorship and debate

**[05:42:36.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006255)  
on the budget of the Department of Finance,

**[05:42:39.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006256)  
including the attached agencies.

**[05:42:41.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006257)  
I so move.

**[05:42:43.460] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006258)  
Madam Speaker.

**[05:42:44.950] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006259)  
And corporations. Majority leader.

**[05:42:48.310] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006260)  
Madam Speaker,

**[05:42:49.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006261)  
on the part of the majority, we join

**[05:42:51.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006262)  
the minority in the motion to terminate

**[05:42:53.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006263)  
the interpolations on the proposed

**[05:42:55.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006264)  
budget of the Department of Finance.

**[05:42:58.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006265)  
Including attached agencies and corporations.

**[05:43:01.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006266)  
Including its attached agencies.

**[05:43:03.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006267)  
And corporations.

**[05:43:04.460] Rep. Patricia C. Calderon** (asr-006268)  
And corporations.

**[05:43:06.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006269)  
There is a joint motion from the minority

**[05:43:08.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006270)  
and the majority to terminate

**[05:43:10.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006271)  
the period of interpolation

**[05:43:12.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006272)  
on the proposed budget of the Department of Finance,

**[05:43:14.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006273)  
including its attached agencies

**[05:43:16.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006274)  
and corporations.

**[05:43:18.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006275)  
Do we hear any objection?

**[05:43:20.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006276)  
Hearing none, said motion is approved.

**[05:43:23.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006277)  
The period of interpolation

**[05:43:25.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006278)  
on the proposed budget of DOF

**[05:43:27.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006279)  
as well as its attached agencies and corporations

**[05:43:29.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006280)  
is hereby terminated.

**[05:43:31.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006281)  
Majority leader.

**[05:43:38.460] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006282)  
Session suspended.

**[05:45:12.850] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006286)  
Session resumed.

**[05:45:15.080] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006287)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:45:17.360] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006288)  
Madam Speaker, I now move to consider the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:45:24.880] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006289)  
Any objection?

**[05:45:26.360] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006290)  
...

**[05:45:26.980] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006291)  
There being none, the motion is carried.

**[05:45:28.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006292)  
We now proceed with the period of interpellation on the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:45:36.520] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006293)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:45:38.180] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006294)  
Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the presence of the heads and officials from the Philippine Statistics Authority,

**[05:45:44.780] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006295)  
namely, Undersecretary Claire Denise Mapa, Assistant Secretary Rosalinda Bautista,

**[05:45:50.460] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006296)  
Assistant Secretary Divina Gracia Del Prado, Assistant Secretary Minerva Eloisa Escuevas,

**[05:45:56.360] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006297)  
Deputy National Statistician,

**[05:45:58.640] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006298)  
and Assistant Secretary Christine Joy Briones.

**[05:46:01.260] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006299)  
To the PSA family, welcome to the House of the People.

**[05:46:05.380] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006300)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:46:08.180] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006301)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Bella Vanessa Suansing,

**[05:46:15.660] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006302)  
Vice Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations,

**[05:46:18.180] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006303)  
to answer questions on the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:46:23.200] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006304)  
The Honorable Bella Suansing, Vice Chair of the Committee on Appropriations,

**[05:46:26.840] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006305)  
and Sponsor of said agency,

**[05:46:28.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006306)  
is hereby recognized.

**[05:46:30.660] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006307)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[05:46:31.820] Rep. Bella Vanessa B. Suansing** (asr-006308)  
We are now ready to entertain further questions regarding the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:46:38.560] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006309)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:46:40.260] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006310)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Sergio Dagooc of APEC Party List

**[05:46:46.640] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006311)  
to interpolate the sponsor on the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:46:51.380] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006312)  
Madam Speaker, I withdraw my motion.

**[05:46:58.640] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006313)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Presley De Jesus

**[05:47:11.160] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006314)  
to interpolate the sponsor of the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:47:15.480] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006315)  
The Honorable Presley De Jesus is recognized.

**[05:47:19.830] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006316)  
Madam Speaker, this is the sponsor.

**[05:47:22.700] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006317)  
Last week, we suspended the budget of...

**[05:47:28.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006318)  
Philippine Statistics Authority pending the submission.

**[05:47:32.280] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006319)  
I think they submitted already.

**[05:47:34.380] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006320)  
But medyo kulang pa daw.

**[05:47:36.660] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006321)  
No?

**[05:47:37.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006322)  
So, please submit it.

**[05:47:38.780] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006323)  
But today, Madam Speaker,

**[05:47:42.360] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006324)  
there being no more members of the minority who wishes to interpolate,

**[05:47:46.620] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006325)  
I move to terminate the sponsorship and debate on the budget of Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:47:55.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-006326)  
I so move.

**[05:47:57.820] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006328)  
Madam Speaker,

**[05:47:58.980] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006329)  
Majority Leader.

**[05:48:00.640] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006330)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority,

**[05:48:02.640] Rep. John Geesnell "Baba" Yap** (asr-006331)  
we join the minority in the motion to terminate the interpolations on the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:48:09.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006332)  
There is a joint motion from the minority and the majority to terminate the period of interpolation

**[05:48:16.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006333)  
of the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority.

**[05:48:19.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006334)  
Do we hear an objection?

**[05:48:21.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006335)  
Hearing none, said motion is carried.

**[05:48:23.640] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006336)  
The period of interpolation on the proposed budget of the Philippine Statistics Authority is,

**[05:48:28.100] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006337)  
thereby, terminated.

**[05:48:32.100] Deputy Speaker Janette L. Garin** (asr-006338)  
Session suspended.

**[06:00:34.980] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006365)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader. Madam Speaker. Majority Leader.

**[06:00:49.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-006365-split-2)  
I now move to consider the lump-sum funds.

**[06:00:54.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006365-split-3)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved. Majority Leader.

**[06:01:00.000] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-006366)  
May we, Madam Speaker, may we acknowledge the presence of the heads of the Department of Budget and Management, namely Acting Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon, Undersecretary Janet B. Abuel, Undersecretary Mary Ann De La Vega, Undersecretary Ryan S. Lita, Undersecretary Goddess Hope Libiran, Undersecretary Wilford Will Wong,

**[06:01:26.260] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-006367)  
Assistant Secretary Romeo Matthew Balangkit, Assistant Secretary Gerald Janda Handa, Assistant Secretary Dante B. De Chavez, Assistant Secretary Gerardo Maula, Officer-in-Charge Assistant Secretary Andrea Celine M. Magtalas.

**[06:01:45.800] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006368)  
We acknowledge the presence of the officials from the Department of Budget and Management headed by Acting Secretary Kim Robert C. De Leon. Welcome to the House of Representatives. Majority Leader.

**[06:01:56.260] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-006369)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize the Chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations, Chairperson Mikaela Angela B. Suansing, to answer questions on the lump sum funds.

**[06:02:10.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006370)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. We recognize Chairperson Mikaela Suansing of the Committee on Appropriations to begin the sponsorship of House Bill No. 10858.

**[06:02:22.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006371)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

**[06:02:26.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006372)  
Madam Speaker to our distinguished colleagues, good afternoon. I am now ready to answer questions pertaining to the lump sum funds. Madam Speaker, I would just like to request the permission of Madam Speaker and our distinguished colleagues if I may instead sit down as today I am nine months pregnant already so we'll just request the indulgence of our distinguished colleagues to sit down for the duration of the interpolations.

**[06:02:54.480] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006373)  
This is noted.

**[06:02:56.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006374)  
Majority Leader.

**[06:02:57.800] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-006375)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize Representative Serio C. Dagooc of Partylist APEC to interpolate the sponsor on the lump sum funds.

**[06:03:09.620] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006376)  
Representative Serio Dagooc of APEC Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpolation.

**[06:03:15.950] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006377)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, Majority Leader.

**[06:03:20.400] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006378)  
Mayong hapon sa atong sponsor.

**[06:03:25.150] Rep. Sergio C. Dagooc** (asr-006380)  
I would like to manifest, Distinguished Sponsor, my continuing opposition. I am always against the lump sum allocation, just for the record. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[06:03:42.640] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006381)  
Majority Leader.

**[06:03:44.480] Rep. Alexandria "Queenie" Gonzales** (asr-006382)  
Madam Speaker, next to interpolate the sponsor is Representative Edgar Erice of the 2nd District of Caloocan City.

**[06:03:53.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006383)  
Representative Edgar Erice of the 2nd District of Caloocan City.

**[06:03:56.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-006384)  
He is hereby recognized for his interpolation.

**[06:03:59.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006385)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, sa ating Majority Leader, and of course, to our Distinguished Sponsor.

**[06:04:08.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006386)  
Good evening.

**[06:04:10.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006387)  
Payagan niyo po akong ipakita yung record ng mga releases ng ating Financial Assistance to Local Government Unit for the year 2025 and 2026.

**[06:04:26.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006388)  
Ito po yung ayon sa website ng DBM. Ito po yung mga nai-release po. Ano po?

**[06:04:40.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006389)  
For 2025, ang may pinakamalaking natanggap po sa region ay ang National Capital Region. 1.653 billion po.

**[06:04:54.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006390)  
Sumunod po ang Region 5.

**[06:04:56.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006391)  
Almost 1.5 billion. Region 11, Region 6, 10, 7.

**[06:05:04.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006392)  
At yung pong BARM, na isa sa pinakamahirap.

**[06:05:11.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006393)  
At ang Region 4B, isa rin po sa pinakamahirap.

**[06:05:16.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006394)  
At yung mga pinakamahirap, gaya ng Region 13, yung po ang mga may pinakamalait na natanggap mula sa nationwide.

**[06:05:26.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006395)  
Regional distribution for 2025.

**[06:05:30.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006396)  
For 2026, ganun din po. Ang pinakamalaking natanggap ay ang Region 4A, 5.365.000.000.

**[06:05:41.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006397)  
Ang pangalawa po, NCR, 4 billion po mahigit. Region 3, 3.774.000.000.

**[06:05:51.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006398)  
Ito pong tatlong region na ito, ito yung mga pinakamayamang region.

**[06:05:56.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006399)  
Sa ating bansa.

**[06:05:58.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006400)  
At,

**[06:06:01.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006401)  
the same po, same,

**[06:06:05.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006402)  
ang pinakamaliliit po na natanggap

**[06:06:08.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006403)  
sa nationwide regional distribution

**[06:06:11.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006404)  
ay ang Region 13, Region 11, at ang CAR.

**[06:06:16.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006405)  
Ang pinakamahihirap na region po sa ating bansa.

**[06:06:21.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006406)  
Pagdating naman po sa mga probinsya,

**[06:06:24.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006407)  
provinces please,

**[06:06:26.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006408)  
noong 2025 po,

**[06:06:28.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006409)  
ang pinakamalaking natanggap ay Sulu,

**[06:06:32.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006410)  
1,251,000,000,

**[06:06:36.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006411)  
or 7.94%.

**[06:06:38.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006412)  
Ang pangalawa po ay ang probinsya ng Cebu,

**[06:06:42.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006413)  
isa sa pinakamayaman na probinsya,

**[06:06:45.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006414)  
897,000,000 plus.

**[06:06:49.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006415)  
Pangatlo po ay ang Ilocos Norte,

**[06:06:55.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006416)  
714,000,000,

**[06:06:56.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006417)  
at ang Camarines Sur,

**[06:06:59.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006418)  
at ang pangsampu po,

**[06:07:02.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006419)  
ito po yung top 10 provinces na nakatanggap

**[06:07:05.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006420)  
ng pinakamalaking assistance ay ang Dabao del Oro.

**[06:07:13.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006421)  
Noong 2026 po,

**[06:07:16.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006422)  
ang pinakamalaking natanggap na probinsya ay ang Batangas.

**[06:07:22.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006423)  
At talaga pong mind-boggling

**[06:07:24.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006424)  
ang natanggap ng Batangas.

**[06:07:26.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006425)  
1.8 billion.

**[06:07:32.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006426)  
At ang Cebu,

**[06:07:34.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006427)  
almost 1.5 billion,

**[06:07:36.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006428)  
Pangasinan,

**[06:07:37.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006429)  
Cavite,

**[06:07:38.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006430)  
Laguna,

**[06:07:39.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006431)  
Negros,

**[06:07:40.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006432)  
Pampanga,

**[06:07:40.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006433)  
Bulacan,

**[06:07:41.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006434)  
Nueva Ecija,

**[06:07:42.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006435)  
at Iloilo.

**[06:07:43.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006436)  
Ito po yung top 10,

**[06:07:45.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006437)  
yung pong top 10 provinces na yan,

**[06:07:49.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006438)  
yan po yung ilan sa mga pinakamayayamang probinsya.

**[06:07:54.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006439)  
Pagdating naman po,

**[06:07:56.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006442)  
sa mga cities.

**[06:07:58.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006443)  
Noong 2025 po,

**[06:08:00.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006444)  
ang pinakamalaking natanggap ay ang City of Manila.

**[06:08:05.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006445)  
Capital City,

**[06:08:07.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006446)  
562 million pesos.

**[06:08:10.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006447)  
Sumunod po ang Naga,

**[06:08:14.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006448)  
Kamarines Sur,

**[06:08:15.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006449)  
500 million po.

**[06:08:18.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006450)  
Pangatlo po, Tagum City,

**[06:08:20.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006451)  
Mandaluyong City,

**[06:08:22.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006452)  
Laoag City, San Juan City,

**[06:08:23.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006453)  
Baguio City,

**[06:08:25.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006454)  
Cebu City,

**[06:08:25.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006455)  
Marikina City,

**[06:08:26.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006456)  
Caloocan City. Ito po sa sampung mga cities na ito, yung siyam po first class.

**[06:08:34.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006457)  
Yung lawag city lang po ang hindi first class dito.

**[06:08:39.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006458)  
Pagdating naman po noong 2026, ang pinakamalaking natanggap po mula sa palgo ay ang Quezon City na tumanggap ng 937,708,000,000.

**[06:08:54.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006459)  
Ang Quezon City po, ang pinakamayaman na lungsod.

**[06:09:01.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006460)  
In terms of revenue, mahigit 40,000,000,000 ang revenue ng Quezon City.

**[06:09:08.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006461)  
At sa aking pagkakaalam, kung di ako nagkakamali, ito ang natatanging lungsod na walang deficit.

**[06:09:15.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006462)  
Pero siya rin ang pinakamalaking assistance.

**[06:09:20.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006463)  
Pangalawa po ang San Juan, 522

**[06:09:24.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006464)  
Milyon, Caloocan, 514,000,000.

**[06:09:29.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006465)  
General Santos, 318,000,000.

**[06:09:32.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006466)  
Manila, 286,000,000.

**[06:09:35.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006467)  
Pasig, 254,000,000.

**[06:09:38.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006468)  
Or Moc, 236,000,000.

**[06:09:40.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006469)  
Santo Tomas, yung pong pinakamayayamang lungsod.

**[06:09:45.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006470)  
Siya rin po ang nakatanggap ng pinakamalaking assistance mula sa palgo.

**[06:09:53.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006471)  
Sino po?

**[06:09:54.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006472)  
Sino po yung mga pinakamababa, yung pinakakawawa.

**[06:09:58.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006473)  
Negros Oriental, 3,000,000 lang po ang natanggap.

**[06:10:03.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006474)  
Cotabato, 5,000,000 lang po.

**[06:10:06.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006475)  
Sambuanga, Sibugay, 5,000,000.

**[06:10:09.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006476)  
Ipugaw, 5,000,000.

**[06:10:10.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006477)  
Biliran, 7,000,000.

**[06:10:12.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006478)  
Sarangani, Rizal, Romlon, Kalinga, Maguindanao del Norte.

**[06:10:17.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006479)  
Mabapansin nyo, yung pinakamababang natanggap, yun din yung mga halos pinakamahihirap

**[06:10:22.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006480)  
na,

**[06:10:23.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006481)  
na mga probinsya.

**[06:10:26.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006482)  
Noong 2026 po,

**[06:10:29.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006483)  
ang pinakamababang mga nakatanggap, number one po,

**[06:10:33.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006484)  
tawi-tawi, 10,000,000 lang po.

**[06:10:36.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006485)  
Biliran, Dinagat, Sikuhor, Kamigin, Kalinga, Mountain Province, Marinduque,

**[06:10:42.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006486)  
Sultan Kudarat, at Apayaw.

**[06:10:45.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006487)  
Kaya po, yung pinakamahihirap, yun pa rin,

**[06:10:48.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006488)  
ang pinakamaliliit natanggap.

**[06:10:52.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006489)  
Pagdating po sa mga cities,

**[06:10:55.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006490)  
2025 po,

**[06:10:57.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006491)  
ang pinakamaliliit na natanggap, Batangas City, 1.5 million,

**[06:11:02.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006492)  
Carcar, Ngalabon, Talisay, Quezon, Butuan, Angeles, Tayabas, Coronadal, at Gapan.

**[06:11:11.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006493)  
Noong 2026 po, ang pinakamaliliit ay San Juan La Union, San Fernando, Camarines Sur, San Juan,

**[06:11:18.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006494)  
Cahuayan, Calamba, Valencia, Alaminos, Tanawan,

**[06:11:22.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006495)  
Santa Rosa, at Quezon.

**[06:11:23.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006496)  
Mapapansin nyo rin, yung pinakamaliliit na natanggap na financial assistance,

**[06:11:29.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006497)  
yung mga mahihirap na lungsod.

**[06:11:35.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006498)  
At pagdating naman po,

**[06:11:39.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006499)  
top 10 municipalities recipients.

**[06:11:42.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006500)  
2025,

**[06:11:44.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006501)  
Panay,

**[06:11:45.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006502)  
Carmen, Lawak, Luok, Ilonggos, Del Carmen, Batarasa, Pamplona, Mercedes, at Butuan.

**[06:11:52.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006503)  
Noong 2026 po, ang pinakamalilaking natanggap sa mga munisipyo,

**[06:11:57.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006504)  
Mabini, Santa Magdalena, San Jose del Monte, Moncayo, Baliwag, Bani, Del Carmen, Echague, Malipot, at Cordoba, Cebu.

**[06:12:08.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006505)  
Ang may pinakamaliliit na allocation naman po sa mga municipality ay ang

**[06:12:13.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006506)  
Bilison Antique, Pornier, Barderama Antique, San Jose Antique, Malalag, Dabao del Sur, Kiblawan, Magsaysay,

**[06:12:22.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006507)  
Dabao del Sur, Santa Cruz, Ponte Verde, Capiz.

**[06:12:26.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006508)  
2026 po, yung mga pinakamahirap na munisipyo, siya rin po yung pinakamaliliit na natanggap.

**[06:12:34.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006509)  
Katulad ng Prieto Dias, Dilasag, Borong, Binangonan, Baras, Nagtipunan, Odyongan, Sarumlon, Luok, at Taytay.

**[06:12:46.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006510)  
Noong 2025 po, may limang probinsya na hindi nakatanggap.

**[06:12:52.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006511)  
Siro, Aurora, kaya pala mainit ang ulo kanina ni Kongresman Romel Angara, Dabao Occidental, Marinduque, Sikohor, at Tawi-Tawi.

**[06:13:07.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006512)  
2026 po, ang hindi po nakatanggap ay ang Batanes.

**[06:13:19.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006513)  
Largest Individual Release ng mga Projects.

**[06:13:22.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006514)  
Siro, Manila, Manila, 500 million.

**[06:13:25.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006515)  
Camarines, Sur, Naga, Jesse Robredo, Rehabilitation of Jesse Robredo Coliseum, 450 million.

**[06:13:34.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006516)  
San Juan, Construction of Multipurpose Building, 254 million.

**[06:13:41.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006517)  
Quirino, Iloilo, Guimaras, Capiz, Apayaw, Cebu, at Caloocan.

**[06:13:52.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006518)  
Largest Individual Projects, Batangas, Construction of Multipurpose Building in Barangay Talisay, Dipa City, 500 million.

**[06:14:01.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006519)  
For Metro Manila, Quezon City, Assistance to Indigent Individuals, 462 million.

**[06:14:09.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006520)  
Pangasinan, 384 million.

**[06:14:12.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006521)  
The same category, Bulacan, ganun din po, 379 million.

**[06:14:17.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006522)  
Rizal, 376 million.

**[06:14:19.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006523)  
Batangas,

**[06:14:22.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006524)  
368 million.

**[06:14:23.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006525)  
Cebu, 360 million.

**[06:14:25.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006526)  
Iloilo, 299 million.

**[06:14:27.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006527)  
Pampanga, 286 million.

**[06:14:31.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006528)  
Manila, 286 million.

**[06:14:34.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006529)  
Ganun din po, mga pinakamayayaman, yun ang nakakatanggap.

**[06:14:43.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006530)  
In 2026, meron pong apat na probinsya.

**[06:14:51.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006531)  
Ang hindi nakatanggap.

**[06:14:54.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006532)  
Meron pong labing-anim na lungsod, ang hindi nakatanggap.

**[06:15:00.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006533)  
At meron pong na higit 300 mga munisipyo ang hindi nakatanggap mula sa LGSF-PALGO.

**[06:15:12.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006534)  
Ito na po ang tanong ko.

**[06:15:16.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006535)  
Ang aking mga tanong ay hindi tungkol sa kung kailangan ng mga LGU ng tulong. Kailangan nila ito.

**[06:15:22.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006536)  
Ang tunay na tanong ay sino ang may kapangyarihang magpasya kung aling LGU, anong proyekto, magkano ang matatanggap, at kailan ito ibibigay?

**[06:15:35.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006537)  
Kongreso ba? O ang Executive Department?

**[06:15:47.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006538)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:15:50.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006539)  
So yung release po ng local...

**[06:15:52.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006540)  
Local Government Support Fund, in general, is governed by the special provision as approved by Congress in the GAA.

**[06:16:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006541)  
After that, the DBM is the one authorized to take care of the processing from the point of receiving the requests from the local government units up to the point of evaluating and releasing.

**[06:16:15.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006542)  
Mahalaga po dito siguro na ipunto na nakadepende din po yung release.

**[06:16:22.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006543)  
Ito ang mga authorization na DBM, base po sa mga requests ng mga local government units.

**[06:16:28.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006544)  
So halimbawa po, sinicheck po namin yung ilan po sa mga nabanggit ng mga probinsya na ating distinguished colleague, whether they had requests.

**[06:16:38.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006545)  
Yes, ma'am. Okay na po. Maliwalag po.

**[06:16:40.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006546)  
So, ang Executive Department po.

**[06:16:43.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006547)  
That is correct po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:16:45.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006548)  
Kung wala, masasabi ba ng Kongreso na sa araw ng pagboto natin sa budget,

**[06:16:52.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006549)  
kung sino talaga yung makakatanggap

**[06:16:55.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006550)  
ng mga LGUs?

**[06:16:58.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006551)  
On the day that we approve our GAA,

**[06:17:01.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006552)  
masasabi ba natin kung sino yung mga LGUs

**[06:17:04.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006553)  
na makakatanggap?

**[06:17:09.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006554)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:17:12.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006555)  
at the point of approving the GAA

**[06:17:15.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006556)  
and the H-GAB on our part,

**[06:17:18.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006557)  
hindi pa po natin ma-identify.

**[06:17:20.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006558)  
Qualified po ang lahat ng local government units

**[06:17:23.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006559)  
na mag-apply po, mag-submitin ang kanilang mga requests.

**[06:17:27.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006560)  
Pero kung sino po yung talagang gagawaran

**[06:17:29.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006561)  
nung mga grant sa ilalim po ng LGSF

**[06:17:32.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006562)  
sa punto po na ating pag-aproba ng H-GAB,

**[06:17:34.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006563)  
hindi pa po matutuko yun.

**[06:17:36.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006564)  
Ibig pong sabi, may karapatan sila mag-apply.

**[06:17:40.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006565)  
Yes po, Madam Speaker.

**[06:17:41.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006566)  
Pero wala silang karapatan na sigurado makatanggap.

**[06:17:47.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006567)  
Depende po sa evaluation po

**[06:17:49.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006568)  
ng

**[06:17:50.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006569)  
DBM. Opo.

**[06:17:51.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006570)  
Masasabi ba natin kung magkano

**[06:17:53.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006571)  
ang para sa tubig, para sa ospital,

**[06:17:55.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006572)  
para sa kalsada, stadium, ayuda, scholarship,

**[06:17:58.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006573)  
o lahat ng mga items

**[06:17:59.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006574)  
na nakalagay po sa guidelines.

**[06:18:02.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006575)  
Madi-determine ba natin

**[06:18:04.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006576)  
sa pag-aaproba ng budget

**[06:18:05.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006577)  
kung mga magkano at sino yung mga makakatanggap?

**[06:18:09.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006578)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:18:10.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006579)  
at the point of approving the budget,

**[06:18:12.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006580)  
hindi pa po.

**[06:18:13.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006581)  
Kasi nakadepende po sa klase ng proyekto

**[06:18:16.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006582)  
na i-dequest po ng iba't-ibang mga

**[06:18:18.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006583)  
local government units.

**[06:18:20.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006584)  
Pangalawa po, ang project menu ba

**[06:18:21.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006585)  
ay may tunay na limitasyon.

**[06:18:31.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006586)  
Pagdating po, kung ang limitasyon po

**[06:18:33.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006587)  
na tinutukay po ng ating

**[06:18:35.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006588)  
Distinguished Colleague, Madam Speaker,

**[06:18:37.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006589)  
ay yung klase ng mga proyekto

**[06:18:39.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006590)  
na qualified po sa ilalim na

**[06:18:41.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006591)  
LGSF, meron po.

**[06:18:43.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006592)  
Sapagkat kung titignan po natin

**[06:18:45.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006593)  
ang General Appropriations Act,

**[06:18:47.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006594)  
dun sa ilalim po ng special provision,

**[06:18:50.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006595)  
sa ilalim ng Local Government Support Fund,

**[06:18:52.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006596)  
nakadetalye po yun, isa-isa,

**[06:18:54.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006597)  
yung menu ng kung ano-anong klaseng

**[06:18:57.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006598)  
ng mga proyekto yung pwede pong i-request

**[06:18:59.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006599)  
ng mga local government units.

**[06:19:02.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006600)  
Kaya nga po, ibig sabihin,

**[06:19:03.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006601)  
pwede yung agricultural programs,

**[06:19:04.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006602)  
nakalagay po yun.

**[06:19:06.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006603)  
Tama po.

**[06:19:06.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006604)  
Pwede po yung farm-to-market roads.

**[06:19:09.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006605)  
Tama po.

**[06:19:09.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006606)  
Pwede yung fish ports at water systems.

**[06:19:13.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006607)  
Pwede yung cultural heritage.

**[06:19:15.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006608)  
Pwede yung ICT, CCTV,

**[06:19:16.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006609)  
local roads, bridges, public markets,

**[06:19:20.120] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006610)  
purpose halls at buildings,

**[06:19:21.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006611)  
sports stadium, hospital,

**[06:19:23.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006612)  
evacuation center, public cemeteries,

**[06:19:26.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006613)  
parks and plazas, medical equipment,

**[06:19:28.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006614)  
materials recovery, disaster equipment,

**[06:19:30.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006615)  
ambulances, multi-purpose vehicle,

**[06:19:32.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006616)  
daycare facilities, RICE,

**[06:19:34.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006617)  
medical funeral, transportation,

**[06:19:36.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006618)  
food, cash assistance, educational assistance,

**[06:19:39.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006619)  
housing repair materials.

**[06:19:43.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006620)  
Parang ito na po yung buong trabaho

**[06:19:45.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006621)  
ng national government.

**[06:19:46.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006622)  
Parang lahat ng departamento

**[06:19:48.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006623)  
ay nasasakot na.

**[06:19:49.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006624)  
Nang palgo.

**[06:19:51.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006625)  
Tama po ba?

**[06:19:53.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006626)  
Siguro confidential funds

**[06:19:55.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006627)  
at intelligence funds na lang wala dito.

**[06:19:58.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006628)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:19:59.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006629)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:20:00.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006630)  
ang dahilan po kung bakit magandito

**[06:20:01.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006631)  
sapagkat bagamat meron po tayong mga

**[06:20:05.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006632)  
nakapondo sa ilalim po

**[06:20:07.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006633)  
ng mga national government agencies

**[06:20:09.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006634)  
para po sa mga nabanggit

**[06:20:11.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006635)  
ng mga klase ng mga proyekto,

**[06:20:13.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006636)  
may mga pagkakataon po kasi

**[06:20:15.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006637)  
na kinukulang pa rin po

**[06:20:16.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006638)  
yung mga umaabot sa mga local government.

**[06:20:19.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006639)  
Doon po pumapasok yung FALGU,

**[06:20:22.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006640)  
yung Financial Assistance

**[06:20:23.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006641)  
sa Local Government Units,

**[06:20:24.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006642)  
yung Growth Equity Fund,

**[06:20:26.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006643)  
yung Support to Barangay Development,

**[06:20:28.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006644)  
at yung iba't-ibang klase pa po

**[06:20:30.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006645)  
ng Local Government Support Fund

**[06:20:31.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006646)  
para po ma-augment

**[06:20:33.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006647)  
yung kung ano man po yung hindi pa

**[06:20:35.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006648)  
kayang i-cover

**[06:20:37.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006649)  
noong mga national government agencies.

**[06:20:39.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006650)  
Kung ganyan po ang ating katwiran,

**[06:20:41.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006651)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:20:42.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006652)  
bakit yung mayayamang LGU

**[06:20:44.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006653)  
yung nakikinabang?

**[06:20:45.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006654)  
Di ba support to LGU?

**[06:20:47.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006655)  
Bakit nasusuportahan?

**[06:20:49.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006656)  
Yung mayayaman na halos hindi na kailangan ng tulong

**[06:20:51.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006657)  
at hindi nasusuportahan yung mga pinakamahirap,

**[06:20:54.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006658)  
yan po ang data.

**[06:20:56.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006659)  
Hindi naman mapapasilungalingan ang data.

**[06:21:04.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006660)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:21:07.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006661)  
opo, sumasang-ayon po ako sa punto

**[06:21:10.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006662)  
ng ating Distinguished Colleague

**[06:21:12.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006663)  
na in theory po,

**[06:21:14.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006664)  
dapat yung mga malalaking mga syudad,

**[06:21:17.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006665)  
dapat yung mga highly-urbanized cities

**[06:21:20.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006666)  
ay may sapat na pondo

**[06:21:21.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006667)  
para po i-sustain yung mga pangangailangan

**[06:21:23.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006668)  
ng kanilang sariling lokalidad.

**[06:21:27.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006669)  
However po,

**[06:21:29.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006670)  
may mga pagkakataon din po

**[06:21:30.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006671)  
na kinukulang pa rin po.

**[06:21:33.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006672)  
Halimbawa po,

**[06:21:34.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006673)  
kung maaari ko pong banggitin,

**[06:21:36.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006674)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:21:37.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006675)  
hindi po may pagkakataon.

**[06:21:39.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006676)  
Sa lahat ng pagkakataon,

**[06:21:41.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006677)  
priority yung mga mayayamang LGUs.

**[06:21:45.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006678)  
Yan po yung data eh.

**[06:21:47.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006679)  
Yung pinakamayayaman,

**[06:21:49.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006680)  
yun ang pinakamalalaki.

**[06:21:51.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006681)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:21:52.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006682)  
yung ipinakita pong datos kanina

**[06:21:54.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006683)  
ay patungkol po sa FALGO,

**[06:21:57.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006684)  
yung Financial Assistance

**[06:21:58.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006685)  
to Local Government Units.

**[06:22:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006686)  
Kalahati po noong pondo

**[06:22:02.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006687)  
na nai-release sa ilalim ng FALGO

**[06:22:04.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006688)  
ay related po doon sa tinatawag natin

**[06:22:08.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006689)  
na rice distribution.

**[06:22:10.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006690)  
Yan po yung 2026.

**[06:22:11.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006691)  
Pero sa 2025 po,

**[06:22:14.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006692)  
ganun din po.

**[06:22:15.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006693)  
Yung pinakamayayaman,

**[06:22:16.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006694)  
yun, yung nabigyan.

**[06:22:17.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006695)  
Apo, we will check po,

**[06:22:22.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006696)  
but we recognize the point po,

**[06:22:24.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006697)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:22:25.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006698)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:22:26.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006699)  
ang nangyari lang po kasi

**[06:22:27.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006700)  
noong 2026,

**[06:22:30.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006701)  
malinaw po yun,

**[06:22:31.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006702)  
population-based po kasi yung release

**[06:22:33.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006703)  
noong rice,

**[06:22:34.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006704)  
kaya po mas malaki.

**[06:22:35.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006705)  
Darating po ako dyan, Madam Speaker.

**[06:22:38.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006706)  
Halimbawa po,

**[06:22:39.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006707)  
bibibigay ako ng isang example.

**[06:22:42.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006708)  
Maari bang sabay na maging eligible

**[06:22:43.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006709)  
ang isang evacuation center

**[06:22:45.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006710)  
sa isang PIP class

**[06:22:46.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006711)  
munisipal?

**[06:22:47.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006712)  
O isang stadium

**[06:22:50.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006713)  
sa highly urbanized city?

**[06:22:52.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006714)  
Ngayon, kung magkakasabay

**[06:22:53.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006715)  
yung kanilang request,

**[06:22:55.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006716)  
pero yung pondo,

**[06:22:56.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006717)  
sinong priority dito?

**[06:22:58.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006718)  
Yung evacuation center

**[06:23:01.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006719)  
ng isang PIP class municipality

**[06:23:02.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006720)  
o yung stadium

**[06:23:05.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006721)  
ng isang first class city?

**[06:23:16.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006722)  
Ang punto ko po,

**[06:23:17.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006723)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:23:19.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006724)  
hindi ba ang special provision

**[06:23:20.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006725)  
ay nagsasabi lamang

**[06:23:22.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006726)  
kung ano ang maaring pondohan,

**[06:23:24.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006727)  
ngunit hindi nito sinasabi

**[06:23:26.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006728)  
kung ano ang dapat unahin?

**[06:23:28.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006729)  
Meron po bang provision

**[06:23:30.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006730)  
na nakalagay doon

**[06:23:31.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006731)  
kung sino ang dapat unahin?

**[06:23:33.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006732)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:23:34.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006733)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:23:35.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006734)  
halimbawa po,

**[06:23:36.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006735)  
doon po sa halimbawa

**[06:23:38.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006736)  
na binanggit po

**[06:23:39.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006737)  
ng ating Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:23:40.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006738)  
kung meron pong isang

**[06:23:41.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006739)  
highly urbanized city

**[06:23:43.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006740)  
at isa pong halimbawa

**[06:23:44.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006741)  
fourth or fifth class municipality

**[06:23:46.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006742)  
na sabay na nag-apply,

**[06:23:49.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006743)  
maaari po na pareho po silang mabigyan

**[06:23:51.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006744)  
sa ilalim po ng magkaibang programa.

**[06:23:54.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006745)  
Meron po tayong tinatawag na

**[06:23:55.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006746)  
growth equity fund

**[06:23:57.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006747)  
sa ilalim po ng LGSF

**[06:23:59.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006748)  
na talaga pong nakatuon

**[06:24:01.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006749)  
para po matugunan yung mga pangangailangan

**[06:24:03.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006750)  
ng fourth and fifth class municipalities.

**[06:24:05.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006751)  
Pero sino po magtatakda

**[06:24:07.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006752)  
ng prioritization?

**[06:24:09.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006753)  
Tinatakba ba ito?

**[06:24:12.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006754)  
Pagkatapos na,

**[06:24:13.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006755)  
mapasa ang budget?

**[06:24:16.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006756)  
Opo,

**[06:24:17.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006757)  
sapagkat ang nakalagay po

**[06:24:19.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006758)  
doon sa special provision natin sa GAA

**[06:24:21.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006759)  
ay nakabase po

**[06:24:23.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006760)  
sa special provision

**[06:24:25.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006761)  
sa criteria po

**[06:24:26.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006762)  
na i-develop pa

**[06:24:29.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006763)  
o bubuoin ng DBM.

**[06:24:31.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006764)  
So, totoo po yun.

**[06:24:32.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006765)  
Yung criteria po

**[06:24:33.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006766)  
for evaluation

**[06:24:34.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006767)  
ay binubuo ng DBM

**[06:24:36.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006768)  
pagkatapos na po natin

**[06:24:37.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006769)  
ma-aprobaan yung GAA.

**[06:24:39.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006770)  
Hindi po dapat

**[06:24:40.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006771)  
yung mga ganyang

**[06:24:42.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006772)  
pagbabalangkas

**[06:24:45.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006773)  
ay inaaprobaan ng Kongreso?

**[06:24:46.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006774)  
Ang

**[06:24:48.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006775)  
DBM na po ba ngayon

**[06:24:50.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006776)  
ang nag-aaproba

**[06:24:51.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006777)  
ng batas

**[06:24:53.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006778)  
para sa prioritization

**[06:24:55.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006779)  
ng pagkakagastusan

**[06:24:57.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006780)  
ng pondo?

**[06:25:02.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006781)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:25:03.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006782)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:25:04.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006783)  
yung sa special provision po

**[06:25:06.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006784)  
kasi meron po

**[06:25:07.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006785)  
doong mga nakalagay na

**[06:25:08.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006786)  
ng mga criteria.

**[06:25:09.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006787)  
Halimbawa nga po,

**[06:25:11.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006788)  
for the growth equity fund po,

**[06:25:14.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006789)  
for example,

**[06:25:14.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006790)  
that cannot be used

**[06:25:15.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006791)  
for...

**[06:25:16.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006792)  
for municipalities

**[06:25:17.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006793)  
or cities

**[06:25:18.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006794)  
or provinces

**[06:25:19.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006795)  
that are outside...

**[06:25:20.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006796)  
that are above

**[06:25:21.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006797)  
4th and 5th class municipalities.

**[06:25:23.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006798)  
So, may mga ganun po

**[06:25:24.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006799)  
na limitasyon

**[06:25:25.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006800)  
na nakalagay sa GAA.

**[06:25:27.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006801)  
Pero, dumalabas po,

**[06:25:27.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006802)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:25:28.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006803)  
doon sa pinakita ko,

**[06:25:29.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006804)  
hindi nagkatotoo yun.

**[06:25:30.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006805)  
Ito po kasing

**[06:25:31.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006806)  
ipinakita po natin

**[06:25:33.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006807)  
na ating pong

**[06:25:34.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006808)  
distinguished colleague

**[06:25:34.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006809)  
ay falgo po.

**[06:25:36.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006810)  
And in the case of

**[06:25:37.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006811)  
2026 po,

**[06:25:38.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006812)  
talagang lahat

**[06:25:39.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006813)  
nagkaroon

**[06:25:39.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006814)  
base po sa populasyon.

**[06:25:41.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006815)  
Whether it's falgo

**[06:25:42.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006816)  
or non-falgo,

**[06:25:43.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006817)  
it's still a lump sum

**[06:25:45.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006818)  
some appropriations.

**[06:25:46.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006819)  
And dapat po,

**[06:25:50.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006820)  
susunod tayo

**[06:25:51.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006821)  
sa...

**[06:25:52.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006822)  
dapat itong

**[06:25:52.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006823)  
paggasta nito

**[06:25:54.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006824)  
talagang maliwanag

**[06:25:55.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006825)  
ang prescription

**[06:25:56.040] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006826)  
ng House of Representatives

**[06:25:57.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006827)  
ng Kongreso.

**[06:25:59.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006828)  
Opo, Madam Speaker,

**[06:26:00.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006829)  
distinguished colleague,

**[06:26:02.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006830)  
na...

**[06:26:02.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006831)  
na...

**[06:26:02.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006832)  
subusunod naman po

**[06:26:03.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006833)  
yung DBM

**[06:26:04.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006834)  
doon po sa mga batayan

**[06:26:05.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006835)  
na atin po inilagay

**[06:26:06.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006836)  
sa General Appropriations Act.

**[06:26:08.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006837)  
For example lang po,

**[06:26:09.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006838)  
if I may po

**[06:26:10.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006839)  
cite an example

**[06:26:12.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006840)  
as stated by

**[06:26:13.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006841)  
our distinguished colleague

**[06:26:14.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006842)  
earlier,

**[06:26:15.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006843)  
yung Region 13 po,

**[06:26:16.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006844)  
halimbawa po,

**[06:26:17.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006845)  
isa sila sa mga

**[06:26:18.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006846)  
pinakamababa

**[06:26:19.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006847)  
sa falgo.

**[06:26:20.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006848)  
Pero second highest po sila

**[06:26:22.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006849)  
sa Support to Barangay

**[06:26:23.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006850)  
Development Program

**[06:26:25.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006851)  
at sila din po yung

**[06:26:27.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006852)  
pinakamataas

**[06:26:28.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006853)  
sa Growth Equity Fund.

**[06:26:30.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006854)  
Yung isa naman po

**[06:26:31.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006855)  
halimbawa din

**[06:26:32.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006856)  
yung sa National Capital Region,

**[06:26:34.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006857)  
bagamat yung NCR po

**[06:26:36.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006858)  
yung nakatanggap

**[06:26:37.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006859)  
ng pinakamataas

**[06:26:38.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006860)  
na allocation

**[06:26:39.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006861)  
sa ilalim po

**[06:26:40.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006862)  
ng falgo,

**[06:26:41.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006863)  
wala po silang natanggap

**[06:26:43.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006864)  
sa ilalim po

**[06:26:44.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006865)  
na ibang klase naman

**[06:26:45.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006866)  
ng LGSF.

**[06:26:46.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006867)  
Meron po,

**[06:26:47.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006868)  
2025 po LGSF,

**[06:26:49.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006869)  
marami silang natanggap,

**[06:26:50.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006870)  
Metro Manila.

**[06:26:51.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006871)  
Apo,

**[06:26:51.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006872)  
noong 2025 LGSF po,

**[06:26:54.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006873)  
nakadepende naman po yun

**[06:26:55.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006874)  
doon po sa request

**[06:26:56.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006875)  
ng mga LGU.

**[06:26:58.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006876)  
yung

**[06:26:58.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006877)  
kriteria

**[06:27:00.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006878)  
dineveloped ng DBM

**[06:27:01.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006879)  
after

**[06:27:02.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006880)  
the

**[06:27:04.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006881)  
pagkatapos

**[06:27:07.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006882)  
ng naipasay

**[06:27:07.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006883)  
yung batas,

**[06:27:08.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006884)  
hindi po

**[06:27:08.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006885)  
ang Kongreso

**[06:27:09.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006886)  
ang nag-develop

**[06:27:11.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006887)  
noong kriteria.

**[06:27:14.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006888)  
Tama po yun.

**[06:27:16.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006889)  
Binabalik ba?

**[06:27:16.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006890)  
Sa Kongreso ng DBM,

**[06:27:18.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006891)  
yung kanilang

**[06:27:18.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006892)  
pinapa-aprobaan ba

**[06:27:20.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006893)  
sa atin

**[06:27:20.820] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006894)  
yung kanilang kriteria?

**[06:27:23.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006895)  
Maaari bang baguhin

**[06:27:23.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006896)  
ng Kongreso

**[06:27:24.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006897)  
yung guidelines

**[06:27:25.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006898)  
bago ipatupad?

**[06:27:27.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006899)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:27:29.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006900)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[06:27:31.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006901)  
sa kasalukuyan po,

**[06:27:33.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006902)  
yung pagkaka-word po,

**[06:27:35.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006903)  
kung paano po

**[06:27:36.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006904)  
nakasulat yung special provision,

**[06:27:38.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006905)  
ay inauthorize po

**[06:27:40.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006906)  
ng Kongreso

**[06:27:41.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006907)  
yung DBM

**[06:27:41.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006908)  
na bumuo

**[06:27:42.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006909)  
ng evaluation criteria.

**[06:27:43.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006910)  
But upon

**[06:27:44.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006911)  
conferring po

**[06:27:45.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006912)  
with DBM,

**[06:27:46.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006913)  
if so required,

**[06:27:49.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006914)  
kung ilalagay po

**[06:27:50.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006915)  
natin yun

**[06:27:50.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006916)  
sa special provision

**[06:27:52.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006917)  
para po sa ating

**[06:27:53.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006918)  
general appropriation

**[06:27:54.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006919)  
sa ACPAR

**[06:27:55.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006920)  
sa taong 2027,

**[06:27:57.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006921)  
bukas po sila.

**[06:27:58.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006922)  
Kapag

**[06:27:58.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006923)  
re-require po natin sila

**[06:28:01.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006924)  
na kapag

**[06:28:01.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006925)  
nabuo na nila yung

**[06:28:02.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006926)  
evaluation criteria,

**[06:28:04.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006927)  
yung guidelines,

**[06:28:05.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006928)  
kailangan po

**[06:28:06.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006929)  
ng approval

**[06:28:07.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006930)  
ng Kongreso,

**[06:28:08.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006931)  
bukas po

**[06:28:09.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006932)  
ang DBM.

**[06:28:10.200] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006933)  
Patungkol po dyan.

**[06:28:10.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006934)  
Yung 2025-2026

**[06:28:13.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006935)  
po na

**[06:28:13.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006936)  
palgo

**[06:28:15.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006937)  
ay

**[06:28:15.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006938)  
mayroon.

**[06:28:16.860] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006939)  
Na-aprubahan

**[06:28:17.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006940)  
ng Kongreso

**[06:28:18.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006941)  
yung guidelines?

**[06:28:20.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006942)  
Hindi po.

**[06:28:20.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006943)  
Hindi po.

**[06:28:21.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006944)  
Sapagkat

**[06:28:21.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006945)  
ang pagka-word po

**[06:28:22.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006946)  
ay inauthorize po

**[06:28:24.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006947)  
natin yung DBM

**[06:28:25.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006948)  
na bumuo

**[06:28:25.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-006949)  
ng evaluation criteria.

**[06:28:27.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006950)  
I think it's against

**[06:28:28.360] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006951)  
the Constitution

**[06:28:30.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006952)  
sapagkat

**[06:28:31.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006953)  
Article 6

**[06:28:33.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006954)  
Section 25

**[06:28:34.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006955)  
Line 6

**[06:28:35.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006956)  
ay nagsasabing

**[06:28:36.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006957)  
ang

**[06:28:37.320] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006958)  
discretionary funds

**[06:28:40.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006959)  
ay dapat

**[06:28:40.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006960)  
sumasa ilalim

**[06:28:41.760] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006961)  
sa guidelines

**[06:28:42.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006962)  
prescribed

**[06:28:43.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006963)  
by law.

**[06:28:44.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006964)  
Yung scoring system,

**[06:28:45.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006965)  
yung project priorities,

**[06:28:47.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006966)  
documentary requirements,

**[06:28:49.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006967)  
funding ceilings,

**[06:28:50.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006968)  
allocation,

**[06:28:51.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006969)  
weights,

**[06:28:51.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006970)  
approval process,

**[06:28:53.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006971)  
dapat po

**[06:28:53.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006972)  
Kongreso

**[06:28:54.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006973)  
ang nag-a-aprub yan.

**[06:28:56.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006974)  
Hindi lamang

**[06:28:57.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006975)  
isang

**[06:28:57.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006976)  
DBM

**[06:28:58.600] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006977)  
local budget

**[06:28:59.800] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006978)  
circular.

**[06:29:00.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006979)  
Sapagkat ito po

**[06:29:01.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006980)  
ay hindi

**[06:29:02.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006981)  
bataas.

**[06:29:04.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006982)  
Dapat dumaan to

**[06:29:04.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006983)  
sa three readings

**[06:29:05.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006984)  
sa House

**[06:29:06.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006985)  
at Senate

**[06:29:07.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006986)  
bago pirmahan

**[06:29:08.900] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006987)  
ng Pangulo.

**[06:29:12.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006988)  
Ikalima po,

**[06:29:13.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006989)  
implementation ba ito

**[06:29:14.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006990)  
o bagong

**[06:29:15.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006991)  
approval?

**[06:29:15.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006992)  
Appropriation

**[06:29:16.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006993)  
decision.

**[06:29:17.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006994)  
Sangayon po

**[06:29:18.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006995)  
ang sponsor

**[06:29:19.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006996)  
na ang tungkulin

**[06:29:20.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006997)  
na executive

**[06:29:20.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006998)  
ay ipatupad

**[06:29:22.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-006999)  
ang appropriation

**[06:29:22.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007000)  
na ginawa

**[06:29:23.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007001)  
ng Kongreso.

**[06:29:24.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007002)  
Ngunit bago

**[06:29:25.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007003)  
maipatupad

**[06:29:26.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007004)  
ang isang appropriation,

**[06:29:27.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007005)  
hindi ba dapat

**[06:29:28.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007006)  
alam na

**[06:29:28.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007007)  
ang layunin,

**[06:29:30.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007008)  
recipient,

**[06:29:31.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007009)  
proyekto,

**[06:29:32.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007010)  
at halaga?

**[06:29:34.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007011)  
Kung ang executive

**[06:29:35.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007012)  
pa ang magpapasyan

**[06:29:36.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007013)  
sa recipient,

**[06:29:37.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007014)  
proyekto,

**[06:29:38.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007015)  
halaga,

**[06:29:39.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007016)  
pagpapatupad pa lamang

**[06:29:40.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007017)  
ba iyon?

**[06:29:42.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007018)  
Para bang

**[06:29:42.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007019)  
nangyayari po,

**[06:29:44.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007020)  
binigyan natin

**[06:29:45.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007021)  
ang Pangulo

**[06:29:46.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007022)  
ng isang budget

**[06:29:48.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007023)  
within a budget.

**[06:29:50.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007024)  
Meron po siyang

**[06:29:51.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007025)  
sariling budget

**[06:29:52.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007026)  
na siya ang magle-legislate

**[06:29:54.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007027)  
kung saan niya

**[06:29:55.440] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007028)  
dadalhin

**[06:29:56.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007029)  
yung mga pondo.

**[06:29:57.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007030)  
Dahil napaka

**[06:30:00.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007031)  
Lawak po nung ibinigay ng Kongreso na latitude in terms of kung saan, kung paano, kung pa, magkano ang ibibigay sa bawat local government.

**[06:30:17.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007032)  
Madam Speaker, my distinguished colleague, we recognize the point of the Honorable Irise.

**[06:30:24.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007033)  
If we would like to put additional safeguards as we craft the 2027 General Appropriations Act,

**[06:30:32.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007034)  
sangayon po ako doon kung gusto natin po na pati po yung evaluation criteria, pati po yung guidelines ay aprobahan ng Kongreso.

**[06:30:41.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007035)  
Bukas po yung DBM dyan at ako din po bilang chairperson ng Committee on Appropriations,

**[06:30:47.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007036)  
I would be very happy to work with the Honorable Irise to craft that.

**[06:30:54.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007037)  
The wording for that special provision.

**[06:30:56.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007038)  
Salamat po.

**[06:30:58.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007039)  
Maari bang piliin ang executive ang politically favored LGUs?

**[06:31:02.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007040)  
Kung maraming LGU ang eligible, ngunit limitado ang pondo, maari bang piliin ang DBM ang isang highly urbanized city kaysa isang mahirap na municipality?

**[06:31:11.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007041)  
Halimbawa, kung maaring pondahan ng 500 million stadium sa isang lungsod na mahigit sa isang bilyong sariling kita,

**[06:31:18.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007042)  
habang walang pondo ang evacuation center o water system ng isang mahirap na bayan,

**[06:31:23.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007043)  
anong provision sa batas ang automatic ang nagbabawal nito?

**[06:31:26.980] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007044)  
Meron ba?

**[06:31:30.240] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007045)  
May poverty first rule ba?

**[06:31:32.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007046)  
May poorest LGU first rule ba?

**[06:31:34.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007047)  
May rule ba na basic services muna bago stadium o multi-port post building?

**[06:31:45.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007048)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues,

**[06:31:48.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007049)  
sa kasalukuyan po, there is no law or there is no provision that,

**[06:31:52.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007050)  
particularly bars, such.

**[06:31:55.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007051)  
So lahat po ng mga local government units ay qualified po na mag-request at mag-apply para po sa LGSF grants.

**[06:32:04.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007052)  
Publicly verifiable ba ang scoring?

**[06:32:07.840] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007053)  
Pangalan ng lahat ng aplikanting LGU?

**[06:32:11.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007054)  
Pwede po ba akong mabigyan ng kopya lahat nung nag-apply at lahat nung na-approve at hindi na-approve?

**[06:32:18.260] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007055)  
Pwede po ba magbigay sa aking tanggapan ang...

**[06:32:22.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007056)  
DBM?

**[06:32:25.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007057)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the DBM po agrees to it.

**[06:32:30.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007058)  
But if we may ask for specifics po, is there a particular timeline we're looking at po for which years po?

**[06:32:37.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007059)  
25 and 26.

**[06:32:39.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007060)  
Hindi naman po madalian.

**[06:32:41.160] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007061)  
One or two weeks, okay naman po yan.

**[06:32:43.660] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007062)  
Opo.

**[06:32:43.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007063)  
Sana po may isama yung kanilang ginawang scoring procedure at ranking procedure.

**[06:32:53.300] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007064)  
Aprobadong halaga at yung dahilan ng rejection.

**[06:33:05.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007065)  
Ito po, maliwanag po, Madam Speaker, gusto ko po linawag.

**[06:33:10.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007066)  
Lahat ng mga proyekto na ipatupad ng 2025 at 2026 ay na-identify after...

**[06:33:22.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007067)  
Budget Approval.

**[06:33:30.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007068)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the DBM will generate what they have.

**[06:33:34.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007069)  
As of now po, they commit that they will be able to give a list of those who requested, those who were approved, against those who were disapproved.

**[06:33:44.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007070)  
But as to the reason for the disapproval of every single item po, sisilipin po ng DBM kung meron po sila sa anong level ng datos.

**[06:33:52.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007071)  
Ano lang po?

**[06:33:52.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007072)  
Yung veto power po, bago pirmahan ng Pangulo ang GAA, may kapangyarihan siyang ibito.

**[06:34:00.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007073)  
Ano mang particular na item sa Appropriations Bill?

**[06:34:02.920] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007074)  
Ngunit kung wala sa bill ang pangalan ng recipient, LGU, o particular na proyekto, halaga, maaari niya bang ibito ito?

**[06:34:11.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007075)  
Hindi.

**[06:34:12.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007076)  
Di po ba?

**[06:34:14.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007077)  
Maaari bang ibito ang isang 500 million na stadium, ngunit panatilihin ang water system kung wala pa naman ang dalawang proyektong ito sa bill?

**[06:34:22.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007078)  
Hindi.

**[06:34:22.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007079)  
Hindi po. Yan po yung nakikita ko pong problema dito sa Lamsam LGSF na ito.

**[06:34:32.520] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007080)  
Ang congressional oversight ba ay sapat nakapalit?

**[06:34:37.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007081)  
The chair would like to respectfully inform the Honorable Erice that his time has elapsed.

**[06:34:41.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007082)  
You may now finish your interpellation.

**[06:34:46.740] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007083)  
Yes, I'm to last two questions.

**[06:34:51.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007084)  
Maaari bang...

**[06:34:52.880] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007085)  
Sabihin na sapat na yung congressional oversight para maging kapalit nung Lamsam Appropriations at Discretionary Authority ng DBM dito?

**[06:35:16.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007086)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we're just quickly looking at the reportorial requirements for...

**[06:35:21.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007087)  
For LGSF, if I may po.

**[06:35:25.420] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007088)  
Yung National Tax Allotment po, meron po itong ano eh, meron siyang definite na mga kriteria.

**[06:35:33.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007089)  
Population, poverty incidence, income class, fiscal gap, and disaster vulnerability.

**[06:35:41.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007090)  
Madam Speaker...

**[06:35:41.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007091)  
Dito po ba merong ganito?

**[06:35:42.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007092)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, upon checking po, wala pong reportorial requirements as of now.

**[06:35:49.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007093)  
Sa mga nakaraang GAA po.

**[06:35:51.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007094)  
Wala pong reportorial requirements na talagang nakatoon para po sa LGSF.

**[06:35:57.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007095)  
Pero meron pong overall report po na sinusumite yung DBM on a quarterly basis with regard to total disbursements, obligations, and the like.

**[06:36:08.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007096)  
But again po, upon conferring with the DBM, kung atin pong i-require, maglalagay po tayo sa 2027 na GAA ng reportorial requirements patungkol po.

**[06:36:21.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007097)  
But again po, sa LGSF, bukas din po ang DBM doon.

**[06:36:24.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007098)  
Salamat po.

**[06:36:25.480] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007099)  
Naniniwala po ako na ang Congress na may power of the...

**[06:36:27.400] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007100)  
The Chair would like to remind the Honorable [unclear] that his time has [unclear].

**[06:36:30.940] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007101)  
Yes, this is my last manifestation.

**[06:36:32.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007102)  
Naniniwala po ako ang Congress na may power of the first.

**[06:36:36.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007103)  
Kasama sa kapangyarihan ito, ang pagpapasya kung anong programa ang pupondohan at kung magkano.

**[06:36:42.500] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007104)  
Ang executive ay dapat magpatupad, hindi gumawa ng bagong appropriation.

**[06:36:48.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007105)  
Ang 2027 palgo, hindi tinutukoy...

**[06:36:51.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007106)  
Ang 2027 palgo, hindi tinutukoy ng kongreso ang bawat recipient na LGU.

**[06:36:54.700] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007107)  
Hindi tinutukoy ng kongreso ang bawat proyekto at lokasyon.

**[06:36:57.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007108)  
Hindi tinutukoy ng kongreso ang halagang matatanggap ng bawat LGU.

**[06:37:02.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007109)  
Hindi nagtakda ang kongreso ng mathematical allocation formula.

**[06:37:06.540] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007110)  
Ang DBM pa ang bubuo ng kriteriya pagkatapos o up sa post-enactment.

**[06:37:12.220] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007111)  
Ang DBM ang nag-a-approve ba o tatanggi sa application.

**[06:37:15.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007112)  
Walang panibagong boto ng kongreso bago ilabas ang pondo.

**[06:37:21.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007113)  
Lahat po ito may public purpose.

**[06:37:24.340] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007114)  
Pero, kinakailangan po talaga dapat ang kongreso at ang implementation lamang po ang ginagawa ng DMA.

**[06:37:34.960] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007115)  
Dapat po may guidelines at scorecard na inaprobahan ng kongreso.

**[06:37:41.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007116)  
Pinapayagan ng Supreme Court ang LAMSAM appropriation.

**[06:37:45.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007117)  
Di lahat ng LAMSAM ay automaticong konstitusyonal.

**[06:37:51.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007118)  
Sapagkat hinihingi ng Korte na identifiable program, activity, or project.

**[06:37:58.140] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007119)  
Sapat na standards at malinaw na hangganan.

**[06:38:05.080] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007120)  
Kaya po, palagay ko po ay dapat pag-usapan ng kongreso nito.

**[06:38:10.400] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007121)  
Siguro sa BARC, kung paano natin mapoprotektuhan ang palgo na mabigyan talaga ng tulong.

**[06:38:20.100] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007122)  
Ito po ay support.

**[06:38:21.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007123)  
Ito po ay support sa local government.

**[06:38:24.780] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007124)  
Yung mayayaman, hindi na gano'ng kailangan ng supporta.

**[06:38:31.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007125)  
Mas kailangan po ng mahihirap.

**[06:38:33.620] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007126)  
22 billion na halaga ng bigas ang pinamigay noong 2026.

**[06:38:41.280] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007127)  
Ito po, wala po itong economic effect sa pagpapaunlad ng bansa.

**[06:38:47.580] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007128)  
At alam ko po, bilang matagal na sa paglilingkod

**[06:38:51.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007129)  
sa pamahalaan, marami po, marami dito nanakaw lang.

**[06:38:56.460] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007130)  
Nanakaw lang po.

**[06:38:58.020] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007131)  
Wala pong absorptive capacity, ang COA, ang DILG, para ma-monitor ang pagbibigay ng 22 billion piso na halaga ng bigas.

**[06:39:12.180] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007132)  
Sayang po kung sana napagawa ng mga ospital, napagawa ng mga paaralan, nabigay sa mga scholars.

**[06:39:20.060] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007133)  
Napakarami pong pangangailangan.

**[06:39:21.380] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007134)  
Simple lang po.

**[06:39:23.640] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007135)  
Alam nyo kung anong dahilan, bakit nagbigay ng 22 billion na bigas?

**[06:39:29.660] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007136)  
The sponsor may respond if she wishes to respond because the time for interpellation has ended.

**[06:39:35.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007137)  
Thank you very much Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:39:39.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007138)  
Again, the DBM appreciates the points raised.

**[06:39:43.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007139)  
Ako din po, na-appreciate ko po yung mga punto na binagit po na ating Distinguished Colleague.

**[06:39:48.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007140)  
If there are...

**[06:39:51.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007141)  
The two things we're protecting here, it's the Congress power of the purse and also the fact that we have oversight over the implementation of the program.

**[06:39:59.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007142)  
So, yung dalawa pong nabanggit kanina, yung una po ay yung kung gusto po natin na ipasok sa 2027 GAA na magkakaroon po na kailangan pong ipa-approve yun pong guidelines at criteria.

**[06:40:15.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007143)  
Bukas po ang DBM doon.

**[06:40:16.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007144)  
At yung pangalawa, kung maglalagay po tayo ng kadagdaga ng mga reportorial.

**[06:40:21.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007145)  
So, requirements patungkol po sa implementasyon na LGSF, maaari din po natin ilagay yung dalawang provision na yun just to safeguard the power of the purse and the oversight power of Congress.

**[06:40:32.720] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007146)  
Madam Speaker, one last point.

**[06:40:36.680] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007147)  
Sinabi po ni Usec Claire Castro.

**[06:40:42.000] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007148)  
Sinabi niya na ang sinasabi ko ay intriga lamang.

**[06:40:45.560] Rep. Edgar R. Erice** (asr-007149)  
Sa tingin niyo po ba, hindi valid issue yung mga nire-raise ko?

**[06:40:51.380] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007150)  
The Chair would like to thank the Honorable Erice for his interpellation.

**[06:40:56.800] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007151)  
We may now proceed to the next interpellator. Majority Leader.

**[06:41:00.640] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-007152)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor, the majority moves to recognize the Honorable Toby Tiangco of the Lone District of Navotas City.

**[06:41:10.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007153)  
Representative Tobias Toby Tiangco of Navotas City is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[06:41:29.700] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-007154)  
Madam Speaker, minute suspension, please.

**[06:41:33.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007154-split-2)  
Session is suspended.

**[06:46:15.400] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007165)  
Session is resumed. Majority Leader.

**[06:46:18.060] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-007165-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, once again, the majority moves to recognize the next interpellator. We move to recognize the Honorable Toby Tiangco of the Lone District of Navotas City.

**[06:46:27.540] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007166)  
Representative Toby Tiangco from Navotas City is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[06:46:32.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007166-split-2)  
Madam Speaker, dear sponsor, first of all, I would like to manifest that if because of the condition of the dear sponsor, she wants to yield to any vice chairman, I am willing to let any vice chairman reply to my interpellation instead of the Honorable sponsor because of her condition.

**[06:46:55.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007166-split-3)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Thank you very much to our distinguished colleague.

**[06:47:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007167)  
I'm truly grateful po for

**[06:47:01.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007168)  
taking my current condition

**[06:47:03.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007169)  
into consideration, but I would be very

**[06:47:05.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007170)  
happy po and honored to receive

**[06:47:08.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007171)  
questions from the Honorable Tiangco.

**[06:47:11.380] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007172)  
Okay.

**[06:47:13.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007173)  
Dear

**[06:47:13.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007174)  
sponsor, papaliwanag ko

**[06:47:16.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007175)  
lang po, no, kung bakit

**[06:47:17.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007176)  
dito ko po itratanong sa inyo, no,

**[06:47:19.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007177)  
I think I should have asked this yesterday

**[06:47:21.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007178)  
doon sa ating

**[06:47:23.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007179)  
DPWH, sponsored by

**[06:47:25.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007180)  
Congressman Momo, but he told me

**[06:47:28.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007181)  
he has no

**[06:47:29.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007182)  
authority to speak, but he asked me

**[06:47:32.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007183)  
if I could ask you, so I agreed naman po, no.

**[06:47:34.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007184)  
So, first of all,

**[06:47:36.080] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007185)  
I would like to give you a brief

**[06:47:37.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007186)  
background, no, on why

**[06:47:39.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007187)  
I am passionate about this, no.

**[06:47:43.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007188)  
Yung mga kasamahan ko po dito

**[06:47:45.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007189)  
noong 19th Congress,

**[06:47:49.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007190)  
alam po nila

**[06:47:49.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007191)  
na ako po yung nag-aral

**[06:47:51.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007192)  
noong budget noong

**[06:47:54.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007193)  
2025,

**[06:47:56.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007194)  
kung bakit nag... kasi

**[06:47:57.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007195)  
ganito po yung history niyan, eh.

**[06:47:59.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007196)  
Yung 2025 budget, hindi po

**[06:48:02.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007197)  
naabutan

**[06:48:03.280] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007198)  
na ma-veto lahat nung

**[06:48:05.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007199)  
insertions. So, pinahold po,

**[06:48:08.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007200)  
pinastop

**[06:48:09.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007201)  
ang implementation ng lahat ng insertions

**[06:48:12.360] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007202)  
noon, and I had to study

**[06:48:13.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007203)  
bakit nagka-problema doon.

**[06:48:16.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007204)  
And these are the things that I found,

**[06:48:18.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007205)  
no. One,

**[06:48:20.080] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007206)  
I found that if we only

**[06:48:22.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007207)  
compared, kung pinagkumpara

**[06:48:24.380] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007208)  
lang po natin, yung

**[06:48:26.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007209)  
budget per

**[06:48:28.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007210)  
district,

**[06:48:29.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007211)  
at nakita natin lahat,

**[06:48:32.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007212)  
makikita kaagad natin yung mga bumubukol

**[06:48:34.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007213)  
na districts.

**[06:48:36.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007214)  
Kasi doon sa mga bumubukol na districts,

**[06:48:38.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007215)  
doon nagkaroon problema. Ano po

**[06:48:40.360] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007216)  
ang ibig sabihin ko na bumubukol?

**[06:48:42.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007217)  
Because, di ba, if we will divide

**[06:48:44.260] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007218)  
the total DPWH

**[06:48:46.360] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007219)  
budget by the number of districts,

**[06:48:49.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007220)  
ang average

**[06:48:50.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007221)  
niyan would be about 2 billion. So, more or less,

**[06:48:52.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007222)  
may mas mababa sa 2 billion,

**[06:48:54.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007223)  
may mas mataas sa 2 billion. So, wala naman

**[06:48:56.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007224)  
problema doon. Pero kung

**[06:48:58.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007225)  
ginawa lang natin yung

**[06:48:59.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007226)  
earlier, makikita natin ng districts na may

**[06:49:01.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007227)  
mga districts na

**[06:49:03.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007228)  
20 billion. Eh, pero

**[06:49:05.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007229)  
nalaman na lang natin huli nung

**[06:49:07.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007230)  
binubusisi na natin yun. So, that is

**[06:49:09.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007231)  
the reason why I am advocating

**[06:49:11.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007232)  
na ipakita natin

**[06:49:13.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007233)  
yung budget per district. Two,

**[06:49:15.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007234)  
para maiwasan na natin to. Number one

**[06:49:17.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007235)  
po yan. Number two,

**[06:49:20.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007236)  
pag tinanong mo naman yung mga

**[06:49:21.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007237)  
congressman nung district

**[06:49:23.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007238)  
na kung saan bumukol,

**[06:49:26.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007239)  
sasabihin ng mga congressman,

**[06:49:27.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007240)  
hindi kanila yan.

**[06:49:29.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007241)  
So, di ba, nasisisi sila sa hindi naman

**[06:49:31.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007242)  
ka nila. And,

**[06:49:34.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007243)  
ang masakit doon,

**[06:49:35.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007244)  
isa doon sa mga malalaki ang

**[06:49:37.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007245)  
pinasok doon,

**[06:49:39.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007246)  
ay mga party list. For example, the biggest

**[06:49:41.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007247)  
party list na nag-insert

**[06:49:43.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007248)  
doon is TINGOG with 5.96

**[06:49:46.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007249)  
billion. So, that is

**[06:49:47.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007250)  
the reason why I am advocating this. Para

**[06:49:49.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007251)  
maiwasan yun, no?

**[06:49:51.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007252)  
So, ganito po. Para hindi

**[06:49:53.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007253)  
tumagal yung ating

**[06:49:54.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007254)  
usapan.

**[06:49:57.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007255)  
So, that is the reason, no?

**[06:49:59.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007256)  
And then, 2026, supposed, dapat

**[06:50:01.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007257)  
binago na natin yan. Okay?

**[06:50:04.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007258)  
Ang problema in my district,

**[06:50:06.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007259)  
in my district,

**[06:50:07.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007260)  
and I've written you about this, is

**[06:50:09.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007261)  
may dalawang projects

**[06:50:11.880] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007262)  
na hindi talaga ma-implement

**[06:50:13.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007263)  
ng DPWH.

**[06:50:16.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007264)  
Yung isa,

**[06:50:17.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007265)  
construction,

**[06:50:19.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007266)  
completion of multi-purpose

**[06:50:21.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007267)  
building, barangay

**[06:50:23.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007268)  
center, barangay

**[06:50:25.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007269)  
Tansa 2.

**[06:50:28.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007270)  
Yan,

**[06:50:29.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007271)  
ng title, pero wala namang

**[06:50:31.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007272)  
kinonstruct na multi-purpose building.

**[06:50:33.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007273)  
So, papaano magkakaroon ng

**[06:50:35.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007274)  
completion? Isa yan.

**[06:50:38.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007275)  
Pangalawa po, construction,

**[06:50:40.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007276)  
completion, same title, multi-purpose

**[06:50:41.980] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007277)  
building facilities, barangay San Rafael

**[06:50:44.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007278)  
Village, Navotas,

**[06:50:45.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007279)  
3 million. Wala rin pong

**[06:50:47.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007280)  
kinonstruct. So, papaano

**[06:50:50.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007281)  
magkakaroon ng completion? So, dalawa po

**[06:50:51.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007282)  
yung concern ko dito.

**[06:50:53.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007283)  
Ang isang concern ko is

**[06:50:55.540] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007284)  
hindi siya implementable.

**[06:50:58.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007285)  
Buti na lang,

**[06:50:59.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007286)  
3 million

**[06:51:01.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007287)  
each yung amount, hindi malaking

**[06:51:03.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007288)  
pera yung nasayang ng gobyerno. Imagine

**[06:51:05.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007289)  
if it were a 100 million project

**[06:51:07.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007290)  
na hindi implementable,

**[06:51:09.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007291)  
di, 100 million yung hindi

**[06:51:11.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007292)  
nagawa. Okay. Number two,

**[06:51:14.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007293)  
since ako po yung

**[06:51:15.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007294)  
district congressman, pag may

**[06:51:17.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007295)  
nakakita nito sa

**[06:51:19.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007296)  
DPWH website, at alam naman nilang

**[06:51:22.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007297)  
walang kinonstruct,

**[06:51:23.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007298)  
tapos may completion, ako naman pagdududahan

**[06:51:26.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007299)  
nila na

**[06:51:26.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007300)  
naglagay ng project na hindi

**[06:51:29.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007301)  
naman implementable.

**[06:51:32.380] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007302)  
Okay. Number three,

**[06:51:34.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007303)  
ito po,

**[06:51:38.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007304)  
wala po ito sa NEP.

**[06:51:40.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007305)  
Pumasok lang siya sa

**[06:51:42.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007306)  
HGAB. So,

**[06:51:43.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007307)  
naipasok to doon sa

**[06:51:45.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007308)  
BARC. Okay.

**[06:51:47.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007309)  
Kasi wala siya sa NEP.

**[06:51:49.540] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007310)  
And when I asked the district engineer,

**[06:51:51.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007311)  
sabi nila, hindi nagpaalam sa kanila.

**[06:51:53.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007312)  
Sabi nung city engineer, hindi nila alam yung

**[06:51:55.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007313)  
proyekto. Sabi nung barangay,

**[06:51:57.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007314)  
yung isang barangay talagang totally wala.

**[06:51:59.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007315)  
Yung isang barangay, iba

**[06:52:01.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007316)  
daw naman yung gustong ipagawa.

**[06:52:03.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007317)  
Sabi ko, delikado yan because that is not the title.

**[06:52:06.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007318)  
Okay. Yun lang yung pinagagalingan ko.

**[06:52:07.980] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007319)  
So, number one,

**[06:52:10.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007320)  
can the

**[06:52:13.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007321)  
honorable chair

**[06:52:15.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007322)  
assure me na wala

**[06:52:17.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007323)  
ng party list

**[06:52:19.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007324)  
na nakakapagpasok

**[06:52:22.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007325)  
ng ganyang kalaking

**[06:52:23.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007326)  
mga amounts?

**[06:52:26.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007327)  
Yes, Madam

**[06:52:27.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007328)  
Speaker.

**[06:52:28.330] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007328-split-2)  
Yes. Okay. Thank you.

**[06:52:29.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007329)  
Number two,

**[06:52:33.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007330)  
I am not

**[06:52:33.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007331)  
against party list

**[06:52:35.120] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007332)  
proposing projects or requesting

**[06:52:37.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007333)  
projects because they also have

**[06:52:39.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007334)  
constituencies. Naintindihan ko yan.

**[06:52:42.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007335)  
Wala akong pagtatalo

**[06:52:43.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007336)  
dyan.

**[06:52:45.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007337)  
But ang request ko lang,

**[06:52:47.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007338)  
Madam Chair,

**[06:52:49.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007339)  
is if they have requests

**[06:52:51.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007340)  
or projects that they

**[06:52:53.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007341)  
want to sponsor,

**[06:52:55.380] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007342)  
idaan naman muna nila sa

**[06:52:56.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007343)  
DPWH. Hindi sa akin.

**[06:52:58.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007344)  
Hindi.

**[06:52:59.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007345)  
Wala akong problema, I think we should

**[06:53:01.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007346)  
institutionalize it

**[06:53:04.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007347)  
na kung ang district congressman

**[06:53:06.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007348)  
pumipili doon sa RDC lang

**[06:53:09.280] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007349)  
ng ilalagay doon sa distrito niya,

**[06:53:13.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007350)  
sana naman,

**[06:53:14.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007351)  
pati yung party list,

**[06:53:16.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007352)  
dumaan din sila sa DPWH

**[06:53:18.260] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007353)  
at doon sila mag-request

**[06:53:19.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007354)  
ng projects. Pwede po ba yun?

**[06:53:22.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007355)  
Madam Speaker,

**[06:53:23.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007356)  
distinguished colleagues, so what

**[06:53:25.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007357)  
I can assure is whichever

**[06:53:27.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007358)  
projects are included in the

**[06:53:29.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007359)  
2027 na HGAB

**[06:53:31.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007360)  
and eventually the GAA,

**[06:53:34.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007361)  
maaayon po tayo doon po sa mga

**[06:53:35.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007362)  
requirements noong nag-budget

**[06:53:37.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007363)  
call po yung DBM. So

**[06:53:39.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007364)  
the same safeguards po, all

**[06:53:41.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007365)  
documentary requirements and a lot

**[06:53:43.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007366)  
of the documentary requirements

**[06:53:45.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007367)  
emanate from the DEOS

**[06:53:47.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007368)  
themselves, yung BP-202,

**[06:53:50.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007369)  
yung mga

**[06:53:51.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007370)  
Certificate of Implementability,

**[06:53:53.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007371)  
mga actual program of works,

**[06:53:56.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007372)  
yun po kasi yung mga RDC

**[06:53:57.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007373)  
or MDC approvals.

**[06:53:59.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007374)  
I'm missing one, geotagging

**[06:54:01.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007375)  
at sa coordinates. Ito po kasi

**[06:54:03.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007376)  
yung limang pamantayan na

**[06:54:05.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007377)  
talaga pong ginamit ng DBM noong

**[06:54:07.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007378)  
budget call. So we will adhere to the same

**[06:54:09.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007379)  
standards and make sure

**[06:54:11.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007380)  
that all the projects in the HGAB

**[06:54:14.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007381)  
and the GAA adhere to the same

**[06:54:15.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007382)  
standards po.

**[06:54:17.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007383)  
Yes po, so ibig sabihin po,

**[06:54:19.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007384)  
DPWH po talaga ang

**[06:54:21.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007385)  
dapat magdaan. Kasi yung nangyari

**[06:54:23.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007386)  
sa amin, I'm not

**[06:54:25.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007387)  
singling out any party list, kaya ayoko

**[06:54:27.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007388)  
nang i-identify kung sino yung party list.

**[06:54:29.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007389)  
Nalaman ko rin later, prior

**[06:54:31.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007390)  
to that, hindi ko alam. Pero nalaman ko

**[06:54:33.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007391)  
sa district engineer, may mga kumakausap

**[06:54:35.540] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007392)  
sa kanila na gustong pa-implement.

**[06:54:37.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007393)  
Pero sabi nila, hindi implementable.

**[06:54:39.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007394)  
So alam ko namin. So it's not about singling

**[06:54:41.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007395)  
any party list because alam ko naman,

**[06:54:43.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007396)  
may constituencies din naman

**[06:54:45.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007397)  
yung party list, diba?

**[06:54:47.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007398)  
I mean, if district congressmen have constituencies,

**[06:54:49.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007399)  
party list representatives have

**[06:54:51.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007400)  
constituencies, and party list

**[06:54:53.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007401)  
party list

**[06:54:54.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007402)  
representatives, constituencies

**[06:54:57.260] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007403)  
are different from

**[06:54:59.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007404)  
each other, diba? May party list

**[06:55:01.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007405)  
na mas kailangan nila yung

**[06:55:02.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007406)  
soft. May party list

**[06:55:05.540] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007407)  
na mas kailangan nila yung

**[06:55:06.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007408)  
hard. Naiintindihan naman natin yun. But

**[06:55:09.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007409)  
ang hiling ko lang dito lagi

**[06:55:11.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007410)  
is transparency

**[06:55:13.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007411)  
and accountability.

**[06:55:15.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007412)  
Let's be transparent.

**[06:55:17.360] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007413)  
Huwag na nating sabihin na hindi nakakapag-request

**[06:55:20.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007414)  
ng proyekto yung party list

**[06:55:21.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007415)  
kasi nakakapag-request naman sila

**[06:55:23.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007416)  
talaga, diba? So let's just

**[06:55:25.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007417)  
be open about that.

**[06:55:28.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007418)  
Kasi the more we

**[06:55:29.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007419)  
deny na nakakapag-request,

**[06:55:31.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007420)  
lalong lumalabas parang may masama

**[06:55:33.140] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007421)  
na mag-request yung party list.

**[06:55:35.260] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007422)  
Eh wala naman masama eh. Congressman naman sila eh.

**[06:55:37.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007423)  
May constituency naman sila.

**[06:55:39.380] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007424)  
Kung napagbigyan ng DPWH at nakita

**[06:55:41.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007425)  
ng DPWH na kailangan yung proyekto,

**[06:55:43.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007426)  
ano bang masama dun? Ang sinasabi ko lang,

**[06:55:45.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007427)  
let's be transparent.

**[06:55:47.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007428)  
Pakita natin, ito yung sa district, ito yung sa

**[06:55:49.340] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007429)  
party list. Because mahirap din eh.

**[06:55:51.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007430)  
For example, nag-request yung party list

**[06:55:53.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007431)  
ng isang proyekto na ipagawa.

**[06:55:56.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007432)  
I hope you

**[06:55:57.260] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007433)  
understand. I'm sure you will understand this

**[06:55:59.520] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007434)  
because you're a district congresswoman.

**[06:56:01.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007435)  
For example, hindi lahat po ng request

**[06:56:03.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007436)  
ng constituency natin na papagbigyan

**[06:56:05.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007437)  
natin. Tama po ba yun?

**[06:56:07.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007438)  
Tama po, Madam Speaker.

**[06:56:09.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007439)  
Ang daming request na hindi natin mapagbigyan.

**[06:56:11.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007440)  
Tama po? Tama po.

**[06:56:13.860] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007441)  
Okay. Ngayon,

**[06:56:15.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007442)  
makakapagtayo yung party list ng isang

**[06:56:17.280] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007443)  
proyekto

**[06:56:17.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007444)  
na later on, sasabihin po

**[06:56:21.540] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007445)  
ng mga constituencies natin,

**[06:56:24.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007446)  
bakit yun napagbigyan?

**[06:56:26.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007447)  
Kami,

**[06:56:27.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007448)  
yung mas hinihingi namin, mas

**[06:56:29.120] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007449)  
importante, hindi napagbigyan.

**[06:56:31.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007450)  
Sa atin, nagagalit because they think

**[06:56:32.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007451)  
for them, it's not needed.

**[06:56:35.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007452)  
Diba? So bakit hindi tayo maging

**[06:56:37.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007453)  
transparent na hindi namin proyekto yan?

**[06:56:39.160] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007454)  
Proyekto yan ang party list.

**[06:56:41.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007455)  
Yun lang po ang hinihingi ko, Madam Speaker.

**[06:56:44.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007456)  
Will the Honorable Sponsor agree with that

**[06:56:47.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007457)  
request?

**[06:56:50.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007458)  
We will, ano po,

**[06:56:51.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007459)  
I agree po

**[06:56:53.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007460)  
with the transparency and

**[06:56:55.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007461)  
accountability advocacy of our

**[06:56:57.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007462)  
distinguished colleague.

**[06:56:59.120] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007463)  
Okay. Next po.

**[06:57:02.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007464)  
Yung

**[06:57:03.220] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007465)  
2026

**[06:57:04.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007466)  
GAA, since

**[06:57:07.360] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007467)  
nahan dyan na yan,

**[06:57:09.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007468)  
and lumabas na sa GAA, couldn't we request

**[06:57:11.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007469)  
na lang, because

**[06:57:12.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007470)  
kayang-kayang gawin ng DPWH siya, diba?

**[06:57:15.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007471)  
They've done it for me for the 2027

**[06:57:17.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007472)  
NEP.

**[06:57:19.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007473)  
Brinake down nila per district.

**[06:57:21.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007474)  
So my request is for the 2026

**[06:57:23.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007475)  
GAA

**[06:57:24.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007476)  
and for the incoming

**[06:57:26.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007477)  
2027

**[06:57:27.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007478)  
GAA, let's publish it

**[06:57:31.080] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007479)  
na rin on our website. Anyway, that is

**[06:57:32.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007480)  
what is written on our website.

**[06:57:35.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007481)  
Ang nakasulat po sa website natin

**[06:57:36.840] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007482)  
is

**[06:57:37.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007483)  
I will just

**[06:57:46.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007484)  
cut it short. Yung bandandulo, the BARC

**[06:57:48.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007485)  
shall similarly publish

**[06:57:50.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007486)  
reports in the House website on

**[06:57:52.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007487)  
budgetary allocations

**[06:57:54.640] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007488)  
per government agency

**[06:57:57.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007489)  
in each legislative district

**[06:57:58.920] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007490)  
which shall subsequently

**[06:58:00.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007491)  
be distributed to all

**[06:58:03.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007492)  
members of the House.

**[06:58:04.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007493)  
So yun lang po ang request ko, whatever is written

**[06:58:07.080] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007494)  
here. Let's just comply with whatever is written

**[06:58:09.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007495)  
on the website. Yun lang po,

**[06:58:11.240] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007496)  
Madam Chair.

**[06:58:12.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007497)  
All the agencies, because anyway

**[06:58:14.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007498)  
it's written on our website, diba po?

**[06:58:18.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007499)  
We shall

**[06:58:19.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007500)  
comply po, Madam Speaker,

**[06:58:20.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007501)  
based on the provisions set forth

**[06:58:23.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007502)  
in the GAA. Okay.

**[06:58:27.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007503)  
Lahat naman po, mayroon bang party list

**[06:58:29.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007504)  
na hindi

**[06:58:30.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007505)  
nagre-request

**[06:58:32.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007506)  
ng projects,

**[06:58:35.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007507)  
ng infra-projects?

**[06:58:39.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007508)  
Off the top of my head po,

**[06:58:41.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007509)  
Madam Speaker, I

**[06:58:42.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007510)  
look at a lot of the

**[06:58:44.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007511)  
requests po kasi both from agencies

**[06:58:47.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007512)  
and from different

**[06:58:49.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007513)  
local

**[06:58:51.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007514)  
executives po, national executives.

**[06:58:52.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007515)  
So I can't ascertain

**[06:58:54.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007516)  
po if that's okay po with our

**[06:58:56.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007517)  
local

**[06:58:57.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007518)  
distinguished colleague. Hindi ko po

**[06:58:58.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007519)  
ma-identify kung mayroon po na hindi

**[06:59:00.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007520)  
nagre-request.

**[06:59:01.670] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007520-split-2)  
Kasi ang

**[06:59:02.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007521)  
alam ko, hindi ko alam,

**[06:59:04.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007522)  
correct me if I'm wrong,

**[06:59:06.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007523)  
nung inaaral-aaral ko, kasi inaaral

**[06:59:08.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007524)  
ko na nga eh, diba? And I'm not singling out

**[06:59:10.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007525)  
any party list. Yung

**[06:59:12.080] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007526)  
Gabriela yata,

**[06:59:14.620] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007527)  
walang request?

**[06:59:24.300] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007528)  
Dear colleague from Gabriela, if you find

**[06:59:26.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007529)  
it offending that I'm referring to your

**[06:59:28.880] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007530)  
party list, please object.

**[06:59:33.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007531)  
Alam ko kasi wala eh.

**[06:59:35.440] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007532)  
Tatlo kasi nakita kong

**[06:59:36.780] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007533)  
party list na wala. Buti

**[06:59:38.720] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007534)  
nandito si Cong Tinio.

**[06:59:40.700] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007535)  
Would you object if I would refer to your

**[06:59:42.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007536)  
party list?

**[06:59:45.540] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007537)  
Ang alam ko po, walang

**[06:59:46.680] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007538)  
request yung ACT teachers.

**[06:59:49.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007539)  
Tama po?

**[06:59:49.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007540)  
...

**[06:59:51.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007541)  
...

**[06:59:53.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007542)  
Tama po.

**[06:59:56.480] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007543)  
Tama po.

**[06:59:59.400] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007544)  
So,

**[07:00:00.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007545)  
walang request din yata po yung kabataan.

**[07:00:11.020] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007546)  
Ang ibig sabihin ko lang, let's be transparent

**[07:00:13.100] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007547)  
about our advocacies, di ba?

**[07:00:14.900] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007548)  
Yun lang ang ibig sabihin.

**[07:00:19.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007549)  
So, yun lang po.

**[07:00:25.660] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007550)  
So, Madam Speaker,

**[07:00:27.320] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007551)  
masyado kasi akong

**[07:00:28.800] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007552)  
kinukonsyensya dito ni

**[07:00:30.280] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007553)  
Congressman Mark Santos. Sabi niya,

**[07:00:32.540] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007554)  
baka mapanganak daw si

**[07:00:33.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007555)  
si

**[07:00:36.740] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007556)  
Congresswoman Mika dito.

**[07:00:38.940] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007557)  
So,

**[07:00:40.060] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007558)  
yun lang po ang

**[07:00:42.760] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007559)  
aking interpellation. And of course,

**[07:00:45.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007560)  
sa

**[07:00:45.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007561)  
DBM na nandito,

**[07:00:48.980] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007562)  
wala po akong tanong for the DBM.

**[07:00:52.600] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007563)  
Magyayabang lang po ako ng kunti.

**[07:00:54.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007564)  
Kababayan ko po si

**[07:00:56.580] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007565)  
Sec. Kim

**[07:00:58.500] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007566)  
Robert De Leon, the youngest.

**[07:01:01.200] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007567)  
He's one of our best,

**[07:01:02.820] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007568)  
one of the best products of

**[07:01:04.460] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007569)  
our public school system

**[07:01:06.040] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007570)  
in Navotas.

**[07:01:08.960] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007571)  
Okay?

**[07:01:10.180] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007572)  
So, yun lang po.

**[07:01:11.560] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007573)  
So, thank you very much

**[07:01:13.000] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007574)  
dear colleague, and

**[07:01:16.420] Rep. Tobias "Toby" M. Tiangco** (asr-007575)  
congratulations in advance.

**[07:01:18.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007576)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, and thank you

**[07:01:20.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007577)  
very much po to the Honorable

**[07:01:22.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007578)  
Tiangco for the questions.

**[07:01:24.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007579)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[07:01:25.620] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007580)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:01:27.260] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-007581)  
Madam Speaker, next to

**[07:01:28.500] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-007582)  
interpellate the sponsor, I move to recognize

**[07:01:30.480] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-007583)  
the Honorable Perci Cendaña

**[07:01:32.600] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-007584)  
of Partylist Akbayan.

**[07:01:34.520] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007585)  
Representative Perci Cendaña of Akbayan

**[07:01:36.740] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007586)  
Partylist is hereby recognized for his

**[07:01:38.460] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-007587)  
interpellation.

**[07:01:43.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007588)  
Magandang gabi po, Madam Speaker,

**[07:01:45.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007589)  
and magandang gabi po sa ating mga

**[07:01:47.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007590)  
kasamahan dito po sa kapulongan ito.

**[07:01:50.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007591)  
Bago po ako formal na magsimula

**[07:01:51.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007592)  
ng ating interpellation,

**[07:01:53.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007593)  
meron lang pong pinapatanong

**[07:01:55.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007594)  
ang mga kababayan po nating

**[07:01:57.080] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007595)  
mga manggagawa.

**[07:01:58.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007596)  
Sa pampublikong sektor, since na dito po

**[07:02:00.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007597)  
ang DBM, sasamantalahin ko na po.

**[07:02:03.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007598)  
Pinapatanong po nila kung kumusta na daw po ba

**[07:02:05.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007599)  
yung dagdag na pera

**[07:02:06.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007600)  
o personal economic relief allowance

**[07:02:09.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007601)  
na ating mga empleyado sa gobyerno, Madam Speaker.

**[07:02:47.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007603)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:02:48.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007604)  
my apologies po

**[07:02:50.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007605)  
for the delay in the response.

**[07:02:52.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007606)  
So, currently po,

**[07:02:54.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007607)  
the final amount

**[07:02:55.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007608)  
as to how to go about,

**[07:02:58.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007609)  
the disbursement of pera

**[07:03:00.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007610)  
for fiscal year 2027

**[07:03:02.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007611)  
is still currently under evaluation

**[07:03:04.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007612)  
by the DBM.

**[07:03:07.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007613)  
However,

**[07:03:08.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007614)  
sa kasalukuyan po, meron na pong inabang din

**[07:03:11.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007615)  
doon po sa MPBF

**[07:03:13.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007616)  
natin

**[07:03:14.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007617)  
na lump sum

**[07:03:16.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007618)  
amounting to

**[07:03:17.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007619)  
11.973

**[07:03:21.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007620)  
...

**[07:03:22.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007620-split-2)  
my apologies,

**[07:03:23.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007621)  
11.793

**[07:03:24.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007622)  
billion pesos, which

**[07:03:26.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007623)  
is equivalent,

**[07:03:28.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007624)  
to a 500 peso increase.

**[07:03:30.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007625)  
So, from 2,000 pesos po,

**[07:03:32.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007626)  
magiging 2,500 pesos po.

**[07:03:34.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007627)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished

**[07:03:36.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007628)  
sponsor, ang tawag po

**[07:03:38.580] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007629)  
dito ng CIU Centro,

**[07:03:40.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007630)  
isa pong grupo ng mga union

**[07:03:42.220] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007631)  
sa pangpublikong sektor, ay insulto.

**[07:03:44.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007632)  
Naisulto po sila doon sa

**[07:03:46.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007633)  
500 peso, nadagdag po

**[07:03:48.480] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007634)  
sa kanila pong pera. Inuulit ko po,

**[07:03:50.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007635)  
pera stands for personal

**[07:03:52.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007636)  
economic relief allowance.

**[07:03:54.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007637)  
Kung ating pong hahatiin ang 500

**[07:03:56.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007638)  
pesos, yan po ay

**[07:03:58.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007639)  
around 16.67

**[07:04:00.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007640)  
pesos lamang

**[07:04:02.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007641)  
araw-araw. Ano pong economic

**[07:04:04.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007642)  
relief ang maibibigay nito

**[07:04:05.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007643)  
sa ating mga manggagawa sa pangpublikong

**[07:04:08.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007644)  
sektor?

**[07:04:10.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007645)  
Kaya nga po, napakahalaga

**[07:04:12.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007646)  
na sa lalong madaling panahon,

**[07:04:14.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007647)  
ipasan na po natin yung ating

**[07:04:15.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007648)  
panukalang batas. Dito po sa Kongreso,

**[07:04:18.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007649)  
yung House Bill 3874.

**[07:04:21.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007650)  
Ito po yung dagdag pera

**[07:04:22.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007651)  
bill. Para naman po, maging

**[07:04:24.340] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007652)  
8,000 yung pera

**[07:04:26.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007653)  
na ating mga government and

**[07:04:28.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007654)  
employees. Kasi sa totoo lamang po,

**[07:04:31.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007655)  
500 pesos

**[07:04:32.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007656)  
nagsimula ang pera noong

**[07:04:34.480] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007657)  
1991

**[07:04:36.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007658)  
at naging 2,000

**[07:04:38.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007659)  
po noong 2009.

**[07:04:40.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007660)  
So mula pa po noong 2009,

**[07:04:42.520] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007661)  
ngayon palang pumuli tayo magdadagdag

**[07:04:44.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007662)  
at ang idadagdag po natin,

**[07:04:46.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007663)  
500 pesos lang.

**[07:04:48.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007664)  
Inuulit ko po, our government

**[07:04:50.500] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007665)  
sector workers find

**[07:04:52.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007666)  
this insulting, Madam Speaker,

**[07:04:54.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007667)  
Madam Sponsor.

**[07:04:57.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007668)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:04:58.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007669)  
my distinguished colleague,

**[07:05:00.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007670)  
alam po yan ng ating

**[07:05:02.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007671)  
mahal na kasamahan.

**[07:05:04.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007672)  
Alam po natin yan

**[07:05:06.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007673)  
na matagal na rin po

**[07:05:08.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007674)  
na hinihintay ng ating

**[07:05:10.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007675)  
mga government employees

**[07:05:12.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007676)  
po yung pagtaas ng pera

**[07:05:14.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007677)  
and the Honorable

**[07:05:16.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007678)  
Perci knows how supportive

**[07:05:18.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007679)  
I am of an increase in

**[07:05:20.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007680)  
pera. So,

**[07:05:22.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007681)  
sa kasalukuyan po, ang nakaabang

**[07:05:24.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007682)  
sa, although ang nakaabang po

**[07:05:26.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007683)  
sa MPBF,

**[07:05:28.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007684)  
as stated in the NEP, is

**[07:05:30.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007685)  
500 pesos, alam nyo yun po yun.

**[07:05:33.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007686)  
Kaisa nyo po ako

**[07:05:33.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007687)  
sa

**[07:05:34.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007688)  
pagsasakatuparan.

**[07:05:38.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007689)  
Hopefully soon,

**[07:05:40.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007690)  
noong po mas mataas pa na increase

**[07:05:42.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007691)  
doon po sa amount ng pera.

**[07:05:44.580] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007692)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague,

**[07:05:46.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007693)  
gaasahan po ng mga manggagawa sa

**[07:05:48.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007694)  
pangpublikong sektor ang commitment na ating

**[07:05:50.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007695)  
good chairperson of the Committee on Appropriations.

**[07:05:53.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007696)  
Punta na po ako doon

**[07:05:55.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007697)  
sa aking mga tanong tungkol po sa

**[07:05:56.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007698)  
lump sum at special funds.

**[07:05:58.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007699)  
Last year po, dinagdagan ng

**[07:06:00.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007700)  
Kongreso ang Calamity Fund

**[07:06:02.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007701)  
from 31 billion in the

**[07:06:04.260] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007702)  
2026 NEP

**[07:06:05.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007703)  
to 39.8 billion

**[07:06:07.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007704)  
in the 2026 GAA.

**[07:06:10.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007705)  
Pero nung chinek po natin

**[07:06:12.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007706)  
as of August 2026,

**[07:06:14.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007707)  
14.02

**[07:06:16.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007708)  
billion pa lamang, o

**[07:06:17.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007709)  
35% ng Calamity Fund

**[07:06:20.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007710)  
ang nailabas.

**[07:06:22.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007711)  
Mapapakamot ka talaga ng

**[07:06:24.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007712)  
ulo sa 35% dahil

**[07:06:26.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007713)  
humarap na tayo sa sunod-sunod

**[07:06:28.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007714)  
na pagbaha, magnitude

**[07:06:29.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007715)  
7.8 na lindol sa Mindanao

**[07:06:32.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007716)  
at pagsirit ng presyo ng

**[07:06:33.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007717)  
langis. Kaya po ang tanong

**[07:06:35.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007718)  
ng taong bayan sa harap ng

**[07:06:37.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007719)  
sunod-sunod ng mga kalamidad,

**[07:06:39.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007720)  
bakit po ang baba ng utilization rate

**[07:06:42.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007721)  
ng ating Calamity Fund?

**[07:06:44.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007722)  
Sino po ba ang nagdedesisyon kung

**[07:06:45.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007723)  
kailan ito i-release? Madam Speaker,

**[07:06:48.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007724)  
distinguished sponsor.

**[07:07:18.130] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007725)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:07:19.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007726)  
my distinguished colleague,

**[07:07:21.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007727)  
ang initial

**[07:07:23.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007728)  
recommendation po patungkol sa

**[07:07:25.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007729)  
releases sa ilalim po ng NDRR,

**[07:07:27.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007730)  
sa ilalim po ng NDRR,

**[07:07:28.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007731)  
NDRRMF ay nanggagaling

**[07:07:30.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007732)  
po sa NDRRMC

**[07:07:31.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007733)  
at pagkatapos po doon, isinusumete

**[07:07:33.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007734)  
po yung rekomendasyon sa ating

**[07:07:35.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007735)  
pong Pangulo ng

**[07:07:37.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007736)  
bansa. At kapag na-aprobahan

**[07:07:40.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007737)  
na po yun, at saka lang po

**[07:07:41.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007738)  
maaaring mag-release

**[07:07:43.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007739)  
yung DBM.

**[07:07:45.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007740)  
Muli po, Madam Speaker, distinguished

**[07:07:47.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007741)  
sponsor, talaga pong napapakamot ang

**[07:07:49.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007742)  
ulo ang taong bayan. Dahil nga po

**[07:07:52.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007743)  
sa dami ng pinagdaanan natin, parang

**[07:07:53.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007744)  
napakababa pa rin po ng

**[07:07:56.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007745)  
utilization rate ng ating pong

**[07:07:58.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007746)  
Calamity Fund. At tayo po ay

**[07:07:59.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007747)  
nasa lagpas kalagitnaan

**[07:08:01.700] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007748)  
ng taon sa ngayon.

**[07:08:03.940] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007749)  
For 2027 naman po,

**[07:08:06.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007750)  
45.67

**[07:08:07.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007751)  
billion ang hinihingi for Calamity

**[07:08:09.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007752)  
Fund. Pero ayon mismo sa

**[07:08:11.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007753)  
pag-asa, El Nino is expected

**[07:08:14.040] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007754)  
to reach very strong

**[07:08:15.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007755)  
intensity by the end of this year

**[07:08:17.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007756)  
until 2027. Dahil

**[07:08:19.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007757)  
dito tinatayang mababawasan

**[07:08:22.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007758)  
ang anin ng palay ng hanggang

**[07:08:23.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007759)  
700,000 metric tons.

**[07:08:26.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007760)  
Noong 2023

**[07:08:27.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007761)  
po to 2024, meron po tayong

**[07:08:29.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007762)  
El Nino. At nagdulog po ito

**[07:08:31.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007763)  
na 57.78

**[07:08:33.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007764)  
billion na pinsala sa

**[07:08:35.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007765)  
agrikultura. Higit na mas malaki

**[07:08:37.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007766)  
ito kaysa sa buong pondong

**[07:08:39.380] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007767)  
hinihingi po for 2027.

**[07:08:42.080] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007768)  
Ang tanong po natin, ano po

**[07:08:43.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007769)  
ang basis sa

**[07:08:45.340] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007770)  
45.67 billion

**[07:08:47.720] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007771)  
na budget request? At ano po

**[07:08:49.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007772)  
ang plano natin kapag naubos ito

**[07:08:51.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007773)  
sa gitna ng tagtuyo? Madam Speaker,

**[07:08:53.600] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007774)  
distinguished sponsor.

**[07:09:09.310] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007775)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:09:10.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007776)  
distinguished colleague,

**[07:09:11.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007777)  
kung mayroon lang po akong maaaring

**[07:09:13.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007778)  
ihabol na sagot doon po sa paunang

**[07:09:15.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007779)  
tanong, kung ang dahilan po kung bakit

**[07:09:17.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007780)  
mababa po yung utilization rate

**[07:09:20.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007781)  
ng NDRRMF.

**[07:09:22.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007782)  
Ang main driver po

**[07:09:23.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007783)  
actually is yung

**[07:09:25.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007784)  
utilization rate ng disaster rehabs

**[07:09:27.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007785)  
habilitation and reconstruction assistance

**[07:09:29.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007786)  
program for LGUs.

**[07:09:31.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007787)  
Amounting to 15.33

**[07:09:34.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007788)  
billion pesos. Halos

**[07:09:35.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007789)  
kalahati po noong kabuuan na

**[07:09:37.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007790)  
pondo ng NDRRMF. Ang dahilan

**[07:09:39.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007791)  
po doon ay wala pa pong

**[07:09:41.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007792)  
nare-recommenda yung

**[07:09:43.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007793)  
Office of Civil Defense

**[07:09:45.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007794)  
sa ating

**[07:09:48.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007795)  
Pangulo, kaya po wala pong nare-release

**[07:09:50.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007796)  
doon. Kaya kung makikita po

**[07:09:52.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007797)  
natin yung utilization nila, talagang

**[07:09:54.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007798)  
zero doon. Pero yung

**[07:09:55.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007799)  
ibang components po, halimbawa,

**[07:09:57.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007800)  
yung sa NDRRMP

**[07:09:59.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007801)  
mismo, sa National

**[07:10:01.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007802)  
Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Program,

**[07:10:04.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007803)  
17 billion

**[07:10:06.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007804)  
na po out of 23

**[07:10:07.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007805)  
billion yung nare-release. So

**[07:10:09.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007806)  
para lang po

**[07:10:12.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007807)  
makapagbigay po ako ng kadagdagang

**[07:10:13.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007808)  
detalye doon po sa unang katanungan.

**[07:10:16.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007809)  
Sa pangalawang katanungan po...

**[07:10:17.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007810)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor, with your

**[07:10:19.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007811)  
kind indulgence. May we request for a copy

**[07:10:21.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007812)  
of the items that you've mentioned. Thank you

**[07:10:23.880] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007813)  
very much, Madam Speaker.

**[07:10:25.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007814)  
We'll furnish

**[07:10:26.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007815)  
a copy po to our distinguished

**[07:10:29.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007816)  
colleague. With regard to

**[07:10:31.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007817)  
the second question po,

**[07:10:33.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007818)  
yung 45.67 billion pesos

**[07:10:35.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007819)  
po sa kasulukuyan

**[07:10:37.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007820)  
ay nakabatay po

**[07:10:39.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007821)  
doon sa

**[07:10:41.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007822)  
mga disasters and climate

**[07:10:43.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007823)  
related shocks na ina-anticipate po

**[07:10:45.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007824)  
na posibleng mangyari sa taon na ito.

**[07:10:48.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007825)  
Ang tumaas po

**[07:10:49.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007826)  
kung ikukumpara po natin

**[07:10:51.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007827)  
yung level sa 2026

**[07:10:53.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007828)  
GAA at yung 2027

**[07:10:55.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007829)  
NEP, ang

**[07:10:56.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007830)  
NDRRMP po

**[07:10:59.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007831)  
ay tumaas mula po sa

**[07:11:01.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007832)  
23.49 billion pesos

**[07:11:03.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007833)  
pataas po sa 30 billion pesos.

**[07:11:05.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007834)  
So, yun po yung main driver

**[07:11:07.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007835)  
nung pagtaas nung amount.

**[07:11:09.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007836)  
Yung People's Survival Fund po, pareho pa rin po.

**[07:11:12.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007837)  
Pero, nakabatay na rin po

**[07:11:14.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007838)  
tayo sa replenishment

**[07:11:15.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007839)  
para po doon sa

**[07:11:17.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007840)  
QRF. At yung

**[07:11:19.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007841)  
panghuli po, yung

**[07:11:20.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007842)  
Disaster Rehabilitation Reconstruction

**[07:11:23.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007843)  
Assistance Program, medyo binabaan po

**[07:11:25.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007844)  
by 600 million.

**[07:11:26.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007845)  
From 15.3 billion to

**[07:11:28.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007846)  
14.67 billion.

**[07:11:31.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007847)  
So, yun po yung

**[07:11:32.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007848)  
hindi po arbitrary, yung

**[07:11:34.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007849)  
pag-set po ng 45.67

**[07:11:37.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007850)  
billion pesos,

**[07:11:38.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007851)  
nakadepende pa rin po sa utilization

**[07:11:40.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007852)  
rate and anticipated

**[07:11:42.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007853)  
potential

**[07:11:44.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007854)  
climate and disaster related shocks

**[07:11:46.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007855)  
po, pare sa taong 2027.

**[07:11:49.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007856)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished

**[07:11:50.660] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007857)  
Sponsor, yun lang pong follow-up question ko

**[07:11:52.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007858)  
dun sa tanong about

**[07:11:54.980] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007859)  
the budget na

**[07:11:56.860] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007860)  
45.67 billion,

**[07:11:58.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007861)  
ano pong mangyayari

**[07:12:01.240] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007862)  
kapag ito po ay naubos sa

**[07:12:03.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007863)  
kalagitnaan ng tagtuyot?

**[07:12:07.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007864)  
At sinasabi natin, malaking chance

**[07:12:09.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007865)  
na mauubos ito, kasi nga po,

**[07:12:11.740] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007866)  
given yung naging record ng loss

**[07:12:14.200] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007867)  
at immensity, nung huling

**[07:12:16.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007868)  
El Nino noong 2020, 2024,

**[07:12:19.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007869)  
parang medyo malayo po yung

**[07:12:20.620] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007870)  
amount na ito sa kakailanganin.

**[07:12:23.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007871)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, we have several options as to how to go about it.

**[07:12:32.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007872)  
Yung una po, meron din po tayong contingent fund. Isa pa pong uri ng lump sum funds na pwede din po natin i-access.

**[07:12:41.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007873)  
Meron pong isa pa, ilalim po ng bawat ahensya, may iba't iba pong mga programa na maaari din po natin ma-utilize.

**[07:12:49.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007874)  
But if in case po, wala ng ibang programa sa ibang ahensya na akma doon sa pangangailangan na kailangan po nating respondehan,

**[07:12:59.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007875)  
we can utilize po the general provision on the use of savings.

**[07:13:03.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007876)  
So pwede po tayong humiling sa iba't iba mga ahensya na mag-identify ng mga savings na pwede po natin i-revert to the National Treasury

**[07:13:13.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007877)  
para po pwedeng ma-reallocate po doon po sa pangangailangan.

**[07:13:19.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007878)  
Sa ibang mga ahensya.

**[07:13:21.480] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007879)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, this representation cannot overemphasize the importance of ensuring that the 2027 budget is an El Niño-ready budget.

**[07:13:32.820] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007880)  
And we hope that this will be reflected in the final copy of the HGAP.

**[07:13:38.460] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007881)  
Punta naman po tayo sa usapin ulit ng Local Government Support Fund.

**[07:13:42.840] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007882)  
Kung tunay pong para sa bawat bayan ng LGSF, sangayon po ba kayong i-itemize?

**[07:13:49.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007883)  
Ito sa GAA for 2027.

**[07:13:53.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007884)  
Meaning papangalanan po natin ang mga LGU at proyekto na paglalaanan nito kagaya ng ginagawa sa ibang budget line items.

**[07:14:13.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007885)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, my apologies po.

**[07:14:16.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007886)  
May one comment upon the previous response.

**[07:14:19.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007887)  
I assure po that we will do our best to make sure that the 2027 budget is El Niño-ready.

**[07:14:26.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007888)  
Hopefully po makapag-reinforce po natin yung budget ng DA patungkol po doon sa mga fertilizer assistance and all.

**[07:14:34.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007889)  
But we will do our best. I can give you my assurance po.

**[07:14:38.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007890)  
Doon po sa tanong patungkol po sa paggagawa ng line item para po sa iba't ibang components ng LGSF.

**[07:14:47.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007891)  
Bagamat, ideally, gusto sana natin na ma-i-line item yun at ma-identify na po sa punto na ating pag-aproba ng HGAB.

**[07:15:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007892)  
Ano po kasi? Request-driven. Request-driven po kasi yung pag-evaluate at pag-release ng LGSF.

**[07:15:08.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007893)  
At sa kanilahilanan po na ito, at the point of us deliberating on the HGAB and the GAA,

**[07:15:16.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007894)  
we still do not have visibility as to which LGUs will be requesting for projects under LGSF in the upcoming fiscal year.

**[07:15:26.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007895)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, parang ang sagot niyo po doon sa tanong ko ay no, ano, hindi po. Tama po ba?

**[07:15:33.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007896)  
Madam Speaker, unfortunately, as much as it pains me to say, opo, hindi po kaya na-align item sa punto po ng HGAB.

**[07:15:42.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007897)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, kung hindi po, ang tanong po ng marami ay, kung ganyan,

**[07:15:49.280] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007898)  
ano na ang pinagkaiba ng LGSF sa pork barrel na tinatawag na unconstitutional

**[07:15:55.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007899)  
ng Supreme Court sa Belgica v. Ochoa?

**[07:16:08.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007900)  
Madam Speaker, if I may, so with regard to this point po, the Supreme Court has already addressed this legal question.

**[07:16:17.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007901)  
The Supreme Court, in the case of Belgica v. Secretary of Budget and Management et al.,

**[07:16:23.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007902)  
has already ruled that,

**[07:16:25.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007903)  
LGSF is a valid item of appropriation as it complies with the rule on singular correspondence

**[07:16:32.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007904)  
because it has the discernible and singular appropriation purpose of providing funds for the support of local government units.

**[07:16:40.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007905)  
It satisfies both the completeness and sufficient standard test.

**[07:16:44.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007906)  
That's why there has already been jurisprudence on the matter, which essentially says that LGSF is not pork barrel.

**[07:16:54.000] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007907)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:16:55.180] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007908)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[07:16:56.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007909)  
sigurado po ako na unawaan niyo where our reservation is coming from,

**[07:17:00.100] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007910)  
particularly po dito sa highly discretionary na nature ng pondo.

**[07:17:04.320] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007911)  
Kaya po, kinakailangan talaga ng transparency when it comes to the criteria, the scorecard,

**[07:17:13.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007912)  
ano ba talaga yung rules that govern this.

**[07:17:16.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007913)  
Kasi if you understand it correctly, the Growth Equity Fund Circular does contain a real formula.

**[07:17:21.780] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007914)  
Ito pong larger assistance window does not.

**[07:17:24.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007915)  
It turns on a scorecard.

**[07:17:25.160] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007916)  
It turns on a scorecard that DBM wrote and has not yet published.

**[07:17:28.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007917)  
Kaya nga po, through the Committee on Appropriations, baka pwede pong hingin natin yung scorecard, yung mga scores, yung ranking,

**[07:17:36.560] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007918)  
at ano po yung rule na kinakailangan para po constantly ma-check natin yung transparency when it comes to this.

**[07:17:42.800] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007919)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:17:51.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007920)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, I have here in my possession,

**[07:17:54.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007921)  
a copy of the scorecard which DBM uses to evaluate programs and projects.

**[07:18:02.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007922)  
So we would be very happy po to share a copy of such scorecard to our distinguished colleague.

**[07:18:10.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007923)  
But if I may quickly po go through, very high level lang naman po yung categories dito po sa scorecard.

**[07:18:19.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007924)  
So there are several areas we're looking at.

**[07:18:22.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007925)  
So it's good financial housekeeping.

**[07:18:24.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007926)  
Functionality of the Local Development Council, Compliance with Subaybayan Reporting Requirements,

**[07:18:29.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007927)  
Financial Accomplishment, Physical Accomplishment, and Additional Criteria.

**[07:18:33.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007928)  
So yun po yung ilan sa mga pamantayan doon po sa scorecard.

**[07:18:37.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007929)  
Maraming salamat po Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[07:18:41.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007930)  
Punta naman po tayo doon sa usapin ng abandoned at declaration of savings.

**[07:18:47.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007931)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, what does abandoned mean for purposes of declaring savings?

**[07:18:53.060] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007932)  
Can a project

**[07:18:53.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007933)  
be declared abandoned even before the contract is awarded?

**[07:19:07.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007934)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, it lies with the different agencies as to their criteria for determining what an abandoned project is.

**[07:19:20.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007935)  
On the part po of the DBM, they're unable to answer.

**[07:19:23.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007936)  
At their level.

**[07:19:24.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007937)  
Kasi po ang dumadating na lang po sa kanila ay ito na po yung listahan ng mga projects na deemed abandoned ng iba't ibang mga ahensya.

**[07:19:35.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007938)  
But we would be very happy po to facilitate, if I may commit on the part of DBM,

**[07:19:41.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007939)  
we can facilitate po the discussion with the different agencies as to what criteria they use po for the declaration of abandonment.

**[07:19:50.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007940)  
Sige po, hihintayin po natin yan from the DBM, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[07:19:55.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007941)  
Let me now go to the last set of questions.

**[07:19:58.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007942)  
Pasensya na po, I promise 15 minutes.

**[07:20:00.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007943)  
Nag-exceed na po tayo ng 3 minutes.

**[07:20:02.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007944)  
Subukan po natin hanggang 20 minutes, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague.

**[07:20:06.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007945)  
Ito po ang aking huling tanong ay tungkol naman po sa program appropriations.

**[07:20:12.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007946)  
Sa 2026 GAA po, 97.3 billion ang nakalaan sa support to foreign assisted projects.

**[07:20:18.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007947)  
Pero nakapagtataka na as of August this year, 120.1 billion na ang nailabas.

**[07:20:30.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007948)  
So nagtataka po tayo, lagpas ito ng 22.8 billion sa budget na nilaan ng kongresong ito.

**[07:20:38.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007949)  
Again, 97 billion is in the GAA ang nailabas na thus far.

**[07:20:44.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007950)  
August, 120.1 billion.

**[07:20:47.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007951)  
Anong authority po ang ginagamit para mapayaga nito at saan iyon po nakasaad sa ating GAA?

**[07:21:15.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007952)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:21:16.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007953)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:21:17.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007954)  
So, looking at the report from DBM with regard to the status of fiscal year 2026 on program appropriations,

**[07:21:44.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007955)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:21:46.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007956)  
So, looking at the line items pertained to by our distinguished colleague,

**[07:21:51.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007957)  
Yes, we agree po on the point of the Honorable Cendaña that yung sa support to foreign assisted projects po,

**[07:22:02.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007958)  
tumaas po doon sa nakaprogram na 97.

**[07:22:05.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007959)  
As of September po kasi itong tinitingnan ko.

**[07:22:08.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007960)  
Mula po sa 97.3 billion, pataas po sa 129 billion.

**[07:22:13.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007961)  
Taba po iyon.

**[07:22:14.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007962)  
Taba po iyon.

**[07:22:15.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007963)  
The reason why nagkaroon po ng mas mataas na amount doon po sa releases is that within the unprogrammed appropriations,

**[07:22:25.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007964)  
there's a special provision which allows for modification of purposes within unprogrammed appropriations.

**[07:22:32.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007965)  
So, this is pursuant to special provision number 8 in the fiscal year 2026 unprogrammed appropriations section of the General Appropriations Act.

**[07:22:43.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007966)  
Saan po nang galing yun?

**[07:22:45.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007967)  
Yung additional amount.

**[07:22:46.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007968)  
The additional amount po was pulled from the revised AFP modernization program,

**[07:22:51.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007969)  
which is another allowed use or authorized use of unprogrammed appropriations in the 2026 nga.

**[07:22:59.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007970)  
Ayan po.

**[07:23:00.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007971)  
Kaya po lagi nating sinasabi yung ating discomfort talaga at yung pagtutol dito po sa lump sum na ito ng unprogrammed appropriations

**[07:23:08.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007972)  
kasi nga po very discretionary na ito on the part of the executive.

**[07:23:12.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007973)  
Here, case in point, nakita natin mas malaki yung kanilang ginugol para sa isang item,

**[07:23:17.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007974)  
lagpas pa doon sa mismong inaprobahan natin dito sa Kongreso.

**[07:23:21.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007975)  
Let me move on po to another issue.

**[07:23:23.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007976)  
Sinabi po ng Korte Suprema noong December 2025, nalabag sa Saligang Batas ang paglipat ng pondo ng PhilHealth para pondohan ang UA.

**[07:23:33.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007977)  
Sinabi pa ni SE Associate Justice Ramon Hernando na ang unprogrammed appropriations mismo ay lumilikha ng unregulated space where discretion,

**[07:23:41.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007978)  
replaces discipline.

**[07:23:43.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007979)  
Ngayon pong 2027, mahigit 57 billion o kalahati ng UA ay para sa panunumbalik ng funds sa PTIC.

**[07:23:52.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007980)  
Ang tanong po natin kung tunay pong obligasyon ito ng national government, bakit po nakalagay ito sa standby fund tulad ng UA

**[07:24:00.540] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007981)  
at hindi sa appropriations ng mismong ahensya na may tiyak na allotment?

**[07:24:23.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007983)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague

**[07:24:26.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007984)  
Sa kasalukuyan po kasi, wala pa pong Supreme Court ruling patungkol po dito.

**[07:24:33.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007985)  
Kaya po ang ginawa po ng ehekutibo nung dine-develop po nila yung

**[07:24:39.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007986)  
NEP,

**[07:24:40.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007987)  
ay nag-abang po ng

**[07:24:41.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007988)  
57 billion doon po sa unprogrammed appropriations just in case the government would have to comply with a ruling, a court ruling pertaining to the PDIC po.

**[07:24:56.140] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007989)  
So wala pa pong balak ibalik talaga yung kinuha mula sa PDIC, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague?

**[07:25:01.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-007990)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, upon conferring po with the DBM, as long as there is a court decision and second, the trigger for releases of unprogrammed appropriations is satisfied, which is there would be excess revenues po, definitely po magkukumplay po ang ating national government.

**[07:25:27.680] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007991)  
Sige po, medyo nababahala din po tayo sa sagot na ito ng DBM.

**[07:25:31.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007992)  
Pagdating po sa pera na dapat po binalik natin sa PDIC.

**[07:25:35.760] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007993)  
But let me end with this, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, the people are demanding a closer look into the lump sum items under the GAA.

**[07:25:44.640] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007994)  
Mandato ng Kongreso na magtakda ng malinaw na budget sa pamamagitan ng line-item program sa ating pong GAA.

**[07:25:51.400] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007995)  
Dagdag pa rito, hindi natin dapat tinotolerate na may UA na nagbibigay ng malawak na kapangyarihan sa Executive o sa DBM na mag-release ng pondo na labas sa programmed budget.

**[07:26:01.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007996)  
In light with this, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor, we ask the DBM for the complete record of every release from the UA from 2022 to the present.

**[07:26:15.120] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007997)  
Not just a summary, but every release, including the date, the amount, the receiving agency, and the specific program it paid for, together with the UACS code for that item.

**[07:26:27.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007998)  
We further ask that this becomes the standard.

**[07:26:29.960] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-007999)  
This becomes the standard for...

**[07:26:31.900] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-008000)  
...form of reporting.

**[07:26:33.420] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-008001)  
If we cannot see where each peso went, no one can be held accountable for it.

**[07:26:38.020] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-008002)  
Yun lamang po, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague. Marami pong salamat, Madam Sponsor.

**[07:26:43.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008003)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:26:45.220] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-008004)  
Madam Speaker, next to interpellate...

**[07:26:46.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008005)  
Madam Speaker, if I may quickly respond po, my apologies.

**[07:26:50.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008006)  
With regard to the request po of our Distinguished Colleague...

**[07:26:57.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008007)  
Yes po, DBM assures that they will provide po.

**[07:27:01.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008008)  
The data from 2022 to 2020...

**[07:27:06.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008009)  
Kaya na ba 2020?

**[07:27:09.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008010)  
Up to half year 2020?

**[07:27:13.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008011)  
Up to the latest information po.

**[07:27:15.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008012)  
Whichever latest data that they have, they have committed to submit po.

**[07:27:20.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008013)  
But it's also noteworthy po that the current level of unprogrammed appropriations as stated in the 2027 NEP is the lowest.

**[07:27:29.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008014)  
In terms of the...

**[07:27:31.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008015)  
...UA total expenditure program ratio.

**[07:27:35.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008016)  
So ngayong taon po, in fairness naman po, nung una ko nakita yung NEP, then yun yung naging reaction ko na ito po yung pinakamababang unprogrammed appropriations level sa mahabang panahon.

**[07:27:47.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008017)  
Dahil po, yun din po yung sinusundang panuntunan ng DBM na basta po kaya siya, programmable siya, identifiable po siya, dinalagay po nila sa programmed appropriations instead of unprogrammed.

**[07:28:01.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008018)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker, and thank you very much po to the Honorable Perci Cendaña.

**[07:28:08.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-008019)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Chair, at maraming salamat po, Madam Speaker.

**[07:28:11.840] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008020)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:28:13.140] Rep. Ramon Rodrigo "Rodge" L. Gutierrez** (asr-008021)  
Madam Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor, I move to recognize the Honorable Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of Partylist 4K.

**[07:28:20.240] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008022)  
Representative Iris Marie de Mesa Montes of 4K Partylist is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

**[07:28:25.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008023)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor, sa DBM po, magandang gabi.

**[07:28:30.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008024)  
Nung nakaraang taon po sa plenaryo, sa plenary budget deliberation, ay binigyang diin na rin ng kinatawang ito ang patuloy na underfunding ng pondo para sa PhilHealth mula sa earmarks na tinakda ng RA 11223 or UHC Act.

**[07:28:47.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008025)  
Noon pa man, inusisya na natin kung bakit hindi na ibibigay ang tamang pondo na itinakda ng batas.

**[07:28:54.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008026)  
Nung nakaraang linggo, muli po natin itong itinanong sa DBM.

**[07:29:00.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008027)  
Hindi masyadong naging ganap na malinaw ang kasagutan, kaya ngayong araw po, pagpaumanhin nyo, kailangan ko pong ulitin uli in the hopes na mabibigyan po ako ng mas malinaw na kasagutan at higit sa lahat, isang kongkretong commitment mula po sa DBM.

**[07:29:21.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008028)  
Tinanong ko po kasi ang DBM kung magkano sa palagay at sa computation nila ang total na collectibles ng PhilHealth.

**[07:29:30.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008029)  
Since hindi po ako nabigyan, itatanong ko po muli ngayon, meron po akong figure na galing sa PhilHealth. Meron po bang figure ang DBM ng kakulangan nila sa PhilHealth?

**[07:30:18.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008030)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:30:20.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008031)  
the DBM commits po, they do have

**[07:30:22.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008032)  
the figure, and they will

**[07:30:24.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008033)  
give the same po to our

**[07:30:26.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008034)  
Distinguished Colleague.

**[07:30:28.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008035)  
Up to what level?

**[07:30:35.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008036)  
Every year.

**[07:30:36.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008037)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished

**[07:30:39.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008038)  
Sponsor, ganito na lang po.

**[07:30:41.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008039)  
Unang-una, I really find

**[07:30:43.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008040)  
it a little bit disappointing for the

**[07:30:45.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008041)  
DBM to not have the

**[07:30:46.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008042)  
data right now, when in fact, I already

**[07:30:49.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008043)  
asked that last time. They should

**[07:30:50.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008044)  
have prepared the data today.

**[07:30:54.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008045)  
So anyway,

**[07:30:55.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008046)  
meron po akong figure

**[07:30:56.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008047)  
galing po sa PhilHealth.

**[07:30:58.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008048)  
Baka po pwedeng i-confirm.

**[07:31:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008049)  
I-confirm na lamang po ng

**[07:31:01.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008050)  
DBM ito. Ito po ang listahan

**[07:31:03.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008051)  
ng kakulangan ng

**[07:31:05.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008052)  
PhilHealth sa DBM,

**[07:31:07.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008053)  
ng DBM sa PhilHealth.

**[07:31:10.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008054)  
Yung kakulangan po sa

**[07:31:11.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008055)  
sin tax, PAGCOR,

**[07:31:14.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008056)  
and PCSO based on

**[07:31:15.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008057)  
collection, ay total po

**[07:31:17.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008058)  
is 199 billion.

**[07:31:20.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008059)  
133 billion

**[07:31:22.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008060)  
sa sin tax earmarks

**[07:31:24.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008061)  
po yan. Yung

**[07:31:25.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008062)  
62.22 sa

**[07:31:27.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008063)  
PAGCOR and PCSO.

**[07:31:30.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008064)  
Bukod dyan sa 199

**[07:31:31.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008065)  
billion na yan,

**[07:31:33.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008066)  
meron pong variance na

**[07:31:35.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008067)  
112 billion. Yan naman

**[07:31:37.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008068)  
po ang difference ng GAA

**[07:31:39.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008069)  
versus actual release.

**[07:31:42.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008070)  
So ang total na kakulangan

**[07:31:44.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008071)  
po ng DBM

**[07:31:46.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008072)  
sa PhilHealth ay pumapatak

**[07:31:47.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008073)  
po na 311.4

**[07:31:50.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008074)  
billion.

**[07:31:52.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008075)  
So malapit po ba

**[07:31:54.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008076)  
ang figure ng DBM dyan?

**[07:31:56.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008077)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[07:31:58.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008078)  
Our apologies po. The Director,

**[07:32:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008079)  
in charge of the data, stepped

**[07:32:02.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008080)  
out, but she's back po. So we

**[07:32:04.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008081)  
can provide the

**[07:32:05.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008082)  
data right now po.

**[07:32:08.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008083)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[07:32:10.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008084)  
In the interest of time po,

**[07:32:12.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008085)  
if we may request po for a quick

**[07:32:13.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008086)  
suspension, Madam Speaker, so I can

**[07:32:15.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008087)  
furnish a copy to our distinguished

**[07:32:17.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008088)  
colleague po.

**[07:32:19.030] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008088-split-2)  
Session is suspended.

**[07:35:41.360] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008095)  
Session is resumed.

**[07:35:48.350] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008095-split-2)  
Please continue.

**[07:35:49.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008095-split-3)  
Madam Speaker, based on the data furnished by DBM, so the total recognized variance for PhilHealth.

**[07:36:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008096)  
For DOH, it's 143.878 billion pesos.

**[07:36:09.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008097)  
But this is excluding the PAGCOR and PCSO contributions.

**[07:36:17.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008098)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleagues.

**[07:36:22.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008099)  
Siguro po, maaari po ba ako mag-request ng pag-uusap,

**[07:36:25.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008100)  
na mag-reconcile, siguro,

**[07:36:28.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008101)  
kasi it's been going on for so long,

**[07:36:30.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008102)  
kanina po, tinanong ko sa DOF,

**[07:36:32.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008103)  
meron po silang binigay sa akin na official communication

**[07:36:35.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008104)  
about the total collections,

**[07:36:37.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008105)  
but it is not disaggregated to specifically point out

**[07:36:41.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008106)  
how much is for the UHC.

**[07:36:46.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008107)  
But since the UHC law is very clear on the earmarking,

**[07:36:51.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008108)  
my office tried to compute kung exactly how much

**[07:36:54.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008109)  
based on the figure of the DOF.

**[07:36:56.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008110)  
And my figures are actually near to,

**[07:37:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008111)  
the figures of the PhilHealth.

**[07:37:02.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008112)  
So, medyo, doon lang po ako parang nadidisappoint,

**[07:37:07.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008113)  
Madam Speaker, Madam Sponsor,

**[07:37:10.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008114)  
kasi tinuturo po ng DOF,

**[07:37:12.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008115)  
ang DBM na should have known

**[07:37:14.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008116)  
kung magkano ang dapat na ibinibigay sa PhilHealth.

**[07:37:18.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008117)  
That it's not their duty na mag-compute

**[07:37:21.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008118)  
because what they do is just to collect everything.

**[07:37:24.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008119)  
It's the DBM's duty and job to,

**[07:37:28.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008120)  
um,

**[07:37:29.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008121)  
disaggregate kung how much will go to PhilHealth.

**[07:37:33.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008122)  
So, baka diyan po ang unang problema natin

**[07:37:37.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008123)  
kung bakit patuloy ang underfunding ng PhilHealth

**[07:37:39.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008124)  
kasi mismo po ang DBM hindi alam

**[07:37:42.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008125)  
kung magkano ang ibibigay para sa PhilHealth.

**[07:37:46.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008126)  
So, um, I guess it's about time that the DBM,

**[07:37:49.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008127)  
the DOH, and PhilHealth sit down together

**[07:37:51.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008128)  
pag-usapan po talaga ito.

**[07:37:54.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008129)  
Malinaw po kasi ang lingwahe ng batas na UHC.

**[07:37:59.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008130)  
May earmarking po yan.

**[07:38:01.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008131)  
And additionally,

**[07:38:03.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008132)  
Madam Chair,

**[07:38:04.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008133)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:38:06.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008134)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[07:38:08.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008135)  
last year,

**[07:38:11.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008136)  
naglabas po ang desisyon ng Korte Suprema

**[07:38:14.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008137)  
tungkol sa pagbababalik ng 60 billion.

**[07:38:18.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008138)  
Kaya nga po binalik.

**[07:38:19.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008139)  
And part of the decision,

**[07:38:22.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008140)  
malinaw na naman po

**[07:38:23.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008141)  
na sinasabi ng Korte Suprema

**[07:38:26.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008142)  
the allocation of PhilHealth funds

**[07:38:29.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008143)  
at the allocation of PhilHealth funds

**[07:38:29.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008144)  
under the UHC,

**[07:38:31.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008145)  
Kino-quote ko pa to sa desisyon,

**[07:38:33.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008146)  
are fixed by the sin tax laws

**[07:38:36.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008147)  
and merely passed through the GAA.

**[07:38:39.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008148)  
In the same vein,

**[07:38:40.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008149)  
the earmarking of the sin tax measures

**[07:38:43.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008150)  
under RA 93-4, 10-351, 11-346, 11-467

**[07:38:50.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008151)  
constitutes an automatic appropriation

**[07:38:54.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008152)  
in favor of PhilHealth.

**[07:38:57.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008153)  
Meron pa isang portion po doon.

**[07:38:58.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008154)  
The earmarking provisions of sin taxes

**[07:39:01.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008155)  
leave no room for any form of discretion

**[07:39:05.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008156)  
as to the disposition of the specific allocations

**[07:39:10.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008157)  
for very specific purposes.

**[07:39:13.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008158)  
The earmarked excise taxes, therefore,

**[07:39:16.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008159)  
cannot be changed or transferred

**[07:39:18.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008160)  
by any government agency

**[07:39:21.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008161)  
for any other purpose.

**[07:39:24.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008162)  
I do not know kung malabo pa po ba ito.

**[07:39:27.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008163)  
Ang linaw-linaw po.

**[07:39:28.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008164)  
ng lingwahin ng batas,

**[07:39:31.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008165)  
hindi ko po maintindihan

**[07:39:33.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008166)  
kung bakit na naman dito sa proposed 2027 budget

**[07:39:37.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008167)  
hindi na naman natin maibibigay

**[07:39:40.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008168)  
ang tamang share ng PhilHealth

**[07:39:42.980] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008169)  
mula sa koleksyon ng sin taxes

**[07:39:45.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008170)  
ng PagCore at PCSO.

**[07:39:48.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008171)  
Yun lamang po,

**[07:39:49.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008172)  
gusto ko lamang po,

**[07:39:52.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008173)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:39:54.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008174)  
Distinguished Sponsor,

**[07:39:55.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008175)  
na maliwanagan

**[07:39:56.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008176)  
kasi hindi ko na po alam

**[07:39:58.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008177)  
kung ano po ang

**[07:39:58.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008178)  
pwedeng dahilan na maibigay

**[07:40:01.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008179)  
kung bakit hindi po ito mabigyan

**[07:40:03.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008180)  
ng tamang pagpupondo.

**[07:40:05.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008181)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:40:06.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008182)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:40:07.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008183)  
I agree with you completely po.

**[07:40:09.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008184)  
This is something that we've discussed

**[07:40:11.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008185)  
at length also

**[07:40:12.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008186)  
with the Honorable Montes

**[07:40:14.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008187)  
since last year

**[07:40:15.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008188)  
during the interpellations

**[07:40:16.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008189)  
and I agree po.

**[07:40:18.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008190)  
What I'm happy with

**[07:40:19.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008191)  
is that Secretary Kim De Leon

**[07:40:22.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008192)  
gives his assurance

**[07:40:24.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008193)  
that he would be very happy

**[07:40:25.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008194)  
to have that discussion

**[07:40:27.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008195)  
among the people

**[07:40:28.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008196)  
of PhilHealth,

**[07:40:31.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008197)  
the Honorable Montes,

**[07:40:33.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008198)  
with BTR,

**[07:40:35.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008199)  
and with DBM

**[07:40:35.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008200)  
to reconcile all of the figures po.

**[07:40:38.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008201)  
Ang nangyayari po kasi,

**[07:40:40.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008202)  
which I agree with,

**[07:40:42.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008203)  
with Sec Kim,

**[07:40:43.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008204)  
there's a delay po kasi.

**[07:40:44.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008205)  
There's a time lag

**[07:40:46.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008206)  
from the time that the BTR,

**[07:40:48.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008207)  
there's a delay

**[07:40:49.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008208)  
in the certification released by the BTR.

**[07:40:52.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008209)  
So, it's not,

**[07:40:54.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008210)  
it doesn't just happen with PhilHealth,

**[07:40:55.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008211)  
halimbawa po,

**[07:40:56.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008212)  
even with RCEF.

**[07:40:58.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008213)  
That's also one of my

**[07:40:59.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008214)  
biggest frustrations po

**[07:41:01.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008215)  
that there's a delay

**[07:41:03.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008216)  
in the release of these

**[07:41:04.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008217)  
earmarked funds

**[07:41:06.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008218)  
to the SAG-Fs

**[07:41:07.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008219)  
because of the delay

**[07:41:09.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008220)  
in the certification of BTR.

**[07:41:10.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008221)  
So, we'll reconcile po.

**[07:41:15.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008222)  
Sec Kim po

**[07:41:15.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008223)  
would be very happy

**[07:41:16.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008224)  
to engage in that conversation.

**[07:41:18.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008225)  
Thank you, distinguished

**[07:41:19.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008226)  
sponsor, Madam Speaker.

**[07:41:24.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008227)  
Distinguished sponsor,

**[07:41:25.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008228)  
kasi po yung ginagamit natin

**[07:41:27.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008229)  
earmarking for PhilHealth,

**[07:41:28.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008230)  
halimbawa for 2027,

**[07:41:31.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008231)  
2025 pong collections yun.

**[07:41:34.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008232)  
So, I don't think there is

**[07:41:35.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008233)  
a reason

**[07:41:37.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008234)  
kung bakit po madi-delay yun.

**[07:41:40.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008235)  
Anyway po,

**[07:41:41.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008236)  
distinguished sponsor,

**[07:41:44.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008237)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:41:46.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008238)  
malaki na po

**[07:41:46.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008239)  
ang pagkakautang natin.

**[07:41:48.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008240)  
Kung susumahin natin,

**[07:41:49.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008241)  
kung paniniwalaan po natin

**[07:41:51.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008242)  
at naniniwala ako

**[07:41:52.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008243)  
sa figura ng PhilHealth,

**[07:41:53.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008244)  
it's about 312 billion pesos.

**[07:41:56.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008245)  
Isang napakalaking halaga.

**[07:41:58.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008246)  
Nasaan ay nagagamit na natin

**[07:42:00.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008247)  
upang mas lumawak

**[07:42:01.860] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008248)  
ang mga binipisyo

**[07:42:03.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008249)  
ng mga miyembro.

**[07:42:04.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008250)  
Sa mahabang panahon,

**[07:42:05.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008251)  
patuloy na nagbabayad

**[07:42:07.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008252)  
ang mga ordinaryong manggagawa

**[07:42:08.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008253)  
at mamamayan

**[07:42:10.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008254)  
na umaasa sa oras

**[07:42:11.820] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008255)  
ng kanilang pagkakasakit

**[07:42:13.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008256)  
ay may sapat na binipisyo

**[07:42:15.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008257)  
na mas aasahan sila

**[07:42:16.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008258)  
sa kanilang kontribisyon.

**[07:42:19.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008259)  
Alam ko po,

**[07:42:19.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008260)  
I commend Secretary Kim.

**[07:42:22.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008261)  
Nakita ko po sa website

**[07:42:23.320] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008262)  
na pinagmamalaki po

**[07:42:25.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008263)  
ng BBM

**[07:42:26.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008264)  
na it's leading by example

**[07:42:28.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008265)  
by proposing a leaner budget.

**[07:42:31.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008266)  
Secretary,

**[07:42:32.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008267)  
makikiusap po ako,

**[07:42:33.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008268)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[07:42:34.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008269)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:42:35.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008270)  
baka naman po

**[07:42:36.500] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008271)  
mag-lead by example din po kayo

**[07:42:40.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008272)  
sa pagbibigay

**[07:42:42.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008273)  
ng halimbawa

**[07:42:43.220] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008274)  
at pagbabayad

**[07:42:44.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008275)  
sa obligasyon natin sa PhilHealth.

**[07:42:46.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008276)  
Kasi yung mga ordinaryong manggagawa din po

**[07:42:48.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008277)  
ay sa tamang oras

**[07:42:50.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008278)  
at tamang halaga

**[07:42:52.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008279)  
nagbabayad po tayo.

**[07:42:54.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008280)  
Sana po makaasa

**[07:42:55.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008281)  
ang kinatawang ito

**[07:42:56.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008282)  
sa commitment

**[07:42:57.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008283)  
na iyan

**[07:42:58.540] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008284)  
ni Secretary Kim.

**[07:43:01.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008285)  
Ano po?

**[07:43:01.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008286)  
Isa pa po,

**[07:43:03.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008287)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:43:05.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008288)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:43:06.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008289)  
ilang ulit na rin pong binigyan

**[07:43:08.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008290)  
ng DIN

**[07:43:09.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008291)  
ng ating Pangulong Ferdinand Marcos

**[07:43:11.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008292)  
sa kanyang mga zona

**[07:43:13.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008293)  
ang commitment

**[07:43:14.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008294)  
ng universal healthcare

**[07:43:16.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008295)  
na why sama-sama po

**[07:43:18.020] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008296)  
nating tulungan

**[07:43:19.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008297)  
ang Pangulo

**[07:43:19.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008298)  
na maisakotuparan ito

**[07:43:22.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008299)  
upang makaiwan siya

**[07:43:23.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008300)  
ng isang pamana

**[07:43:25.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008301)  
ng gobyernong tunay

**[07:43:27.300] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008302)  
nagmamahal

**[07:43:27.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008303)  
na nagmamalasakit

**[07:43:29.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008304)  
sa kasulusugan

**[07:43:30.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008305)  
ng mga Pilipino.

**[07:43:32.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008306)  
Sabi nga po

**[07:43:33.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008307)  
ni Justice Amie Lazaro

**[07:43:34.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008308)  
sa kanyang desisyon

**[07:43:36.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008309)  
patungkol

**[07:43:36.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008310)  
sa pagbabalik

**[07:43:38.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008311)  
ng 60 billion

**[07:43:39.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008312)  
PhilHealth funds

**[07:43:40.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008313)  
and I quote,

**[07:43:41.740] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008314)  
What good

**[07:43:42.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008315)  
is a constitutionally

**[07:43:43.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008316)  
guaranteed right to life

**[07:43:45.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008317)  
when the right to health

**[07:43:46.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008318)  
remains

**[07:43:47.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008319)  
financially

**[07:43:48.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008320)  
unreachable?

**[07:43:50.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008321)  
Maraming maraming

**[07:43:51.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008322)  
salamat po,

**[07:43:51.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008323)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:43:53.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008324)  
Distinguished Sponsor

**[07:43:54.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-008325)  
and to the DBM.

**[07:43:56.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008326)  
Thank you very much,

**[07:43:57.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008327)  
Madam Speaker.

**[07:43:57.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008328)  
Thank you very much

**[07:43:58.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008329)  
to the Honorable Iris Montes.

**[07:44:00.880] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008330)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:44:02.400] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008331)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:44:03.460] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008332)  
next to interpellate

**[07:44:04.420] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008333)  
the sponsor,

**[07:44:05.200] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008334)  
I move to recognize

**[07:44:06.240] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008335)  
Representative Sarah Jane Elago

**[07:44:08.840] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008336)  
of Gabriela Women's Party List.

**[07:44:12.120] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008337)  
Representative Sarah Jane Elago

**[07:44:13.800] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008338)  
of Gabriela Women's Party List

**[07:44:14.980] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008339)  
is hereby recognized

**[07:44:15.800] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008340)  
for her interpellation.

**[07:44:18.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008341)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[07:44:20.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008342)  
This concern is about

**[07:44:22.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008343)  
the Growth Equity Fund

**[07:44:23.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008344)  
under the Local Government

**[07:44:25.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008345)  
Support Fund

**[07:44:26.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008346)  
which,

**[07:44:26.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008347)  
based on the

**[07:44:27.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008348)  
description

**[07:44:28.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008349)  
in the DILG site,

**[07:44:30.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008350)  
is designed

**[07:44:31.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008351)  
to address issues

**[07:44:32.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008352)  
on marginalization

**[07:44:34.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008353)  
and equal development,

**[07:44:35.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008354)  
high poverty incidence

**[07:44:36.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008355)  
and disparities

**[07:44:37.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008356)  
in the net fiscal capacities

**[07:44:39.700] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008357)  
of the LGUs

**[07:44:40.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008358)  
under the Executive Order

**[07:44:43.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008359)  
on Full Devolution.

**[07:44:45.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008360)  
Now,

**[07:44:45.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008361)  
from the year 2022,

**[07:44:48.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008362)  
this particular item

**[07:44:50.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008363)  
received thus far

**[07:44:52.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008364)  
for 2022,

**[07:44:53.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008365)  
1.25 billion

**[07:44:55.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008366)  
for 2023,

**[07:44:56.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008367)  
1 billion.

**[07:44:57.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008368)  
No allocation

**[07:44:58.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008369)  
for 2024.

**[07:45:00.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008370)  
700 million for 2025, for 2026, 11.3 billion, and for 2027, 10.3 billion.

**[07:45:09.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008371)  
May we know from the distinguished sponsor how many beneficiaries from the LGU have received funds from this GEF?

**[07:45:48.190] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008372)  
Or kahit yung total number na lang po ng LGU beneficiaries at hihingin na lang po natin yung breakdown kada taon.

**[07:45:56.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008372-split-2)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, my distinguished colleague.

**[07:46:00.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008373)  
So, ang meron lang po kami ngayon is as far back as 2023. That one po I can say right now, but DBM po will get the data for 2022. For 2023 po, sorry, nabulag ako. For 2022 po pala meron. It is a total of, hindi lang naka-total, 150, 270, 430 LGUs po for the year 2022. For the year 2023, 170 LGUs.

**[07:46:31.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008374)  
For 2025, wala po sa 2024. Sa 2025 po, a total of 244. And for 2026 po, 875.

**[07:46:48.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008374-split-2)  
875. Tama po ba? Dahil ito ay lump sum, hindi yan nakalista sa GAA for the years provided by the distinguished sponsor.

**[07:47:08.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008375)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Opo. For the 2026 GAA, there is no annex wherein the list of beneficiaries is listed out, pero meron lang pong criteria na dapat po yung Growth Equity Fund ay para po sa fourth and fifth class municipalities.

**[07:47:32.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008376)  
Madam Speaker, yung kawalan ng listahan dito sa GEF hindi lang po sa 2026, tama po ba? Simula po magsimula itong fund na ito, lahat nung mga proyekto ay post-GAA na po, post-enactment na na isasama o na-identify at nabibigyan ng pondo.

**[07:48:01.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008377)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague. Yes po, kasi po meron pong, in theory po, every time we pass the GAA, there is already a qualified list of municipalities, cities and provinces po that qualify for the Growth Equity Fund, which is the master list essentially of all the LGUs that are considered as fourth and fifth class municipalities. But as to the amounts po, halimbawa kung magkano yung matatanggap ng bawat isa sa mga LGUs, tama po yun, wala po yun sa level ng GAA. That is determined po after the GAA is already passed.

**[07:48:45.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008378)  
Madam Speaker, bakit po sa kabila ng pagkakaroon na ng master list, halimbawa nung target po natin na matulungan ng mga LGUs na mga fourth at fifth class municipalities, may listahan na ito. At hindi po ba nakadepende din ang tulong na ibibigay

**[07:48:59.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008379)  
ng Growth Equity Fund sa devolution transition plan ng ating mga municipalities? Ibig sabihin meron na pong agarang batayan ang ating mga ahensya kung paano tiyak na maa-identify ang mga LGU, kung magkano at anong proyekto ang ilalagak sa ating GAA, pero bakit hindi po ba ito ginagawa? Madam Speaker, distinguished sponsor. Sorry.

**[07:49:40.270] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008388)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, upon conferring with DBM,

**[07:49:46.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008389)  
sa level po ng NEP, kapag sinumite po nila sa atin ng ehekutibo yung NEP,

**[07:49:53.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008390)  
meron na po siyang kaakibat na listahan.

**[07:49:56.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008391)  
Meron sa kanila, hindi po ina-attach doon sa mismong NEP,

**[07:50:00.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008392)  
pero meron po silang listahan na siyang basihan po noong pong amount na kanila pong tinatalaga

**[07:50:07.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008393)  
para po sa growth equity fund sa NEP.

**[07:50:09.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008394)  
However, that's actually not an attachment to the NEP,

**[07:50:13.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008395)  
but it is possible, it is technically possible to have such a list attached to the NEP and later on the GAA.

**[07:50:22.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008396)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:50:25.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008397)  
May nasa 10 bilyon na pondo para dito para sa susunod na taon.

**[07:50:29.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008398)  
Ibig sabihin, tulad ng nasabing nyo, meron ng handang listahan na may mga proyekto at amount ng pondo para sa mga LGUs na ito.

**[07:50:38.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008399)  
Tama po ba?

**[07:50:55.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008400)  
...

**[07:51:11.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008401)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[07:51:14.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008402)  
pinapakita po sa akin ng DBM ngayon na meron na pong sa bawat klase ng local government unit

**[07:51:22.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008403)  
na pupapasok po.

**[07:51:25.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008404)  
Doon sa klasifikasyon ng 4th and 5th class municipality, meron na pong determined level ng allocation.

**[07:51:33.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008405)  
Halimbawa po, magbibigay lang po ako ng example,

**[07:51:37.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008406)  
isa lang po yung probinsya sa buong bansa sa labas ng BARM na considered po na 4th and 5th class or 5th class which is Batanes.

**[07:51:45.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008407)  
Meron na pong identified amount dito na 51.5 million pesos.

**[07:51:51.140] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008408)  
Sa cities po, halimbawa may siyam na fourth and fifth class cities.

**[07:51:55.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008409)  
Meron po silang total allocation of 463.5 million.

**[07:52:01.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008410)  
So meron pong designated amount per LGU.

**[07:52:07.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008411)  
Pero as for the projects that will be funded under the growth equity fund,

**[07:52:15.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008412)  
it still depends po on what the LGUs will request.

**[07:52:19.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008413)  
But there are guidelines that govern.

**[07:52:23.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008414)  
The types of projects.

**[07:52:25.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008415)  
That can be released to them.

**[07:52:27.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008416)  
Meron pong menu noong mga items na pwede po nilang i-request sa ilalim po ng growth equity fund.

**[07:52:33.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008417)  
Maraming salamat Madam Speaker.

**[07:52:35.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008418)  
Meron na daw clear identification noong mga LGUs na makakatanggap.

**[07:52:40.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008419)  
Ngunit ang sinasabi kaya nananatiling lump sum ay hindi pa identified kung ano yung kailangan ng barangay o municipality na mag-request.

**[07:52:51.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008420)  
At sinabi rin ang ating distinguished sponsor na meron namang guidelines.

**[07:52:54.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008421)  
Ngunit nababalik.

**[07:52:55.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008422)  
Nabahala po tayo dahil laging ang guidelines na nilalabas ay pagkatapos na ng enactment ng GAA.

**[07:53:03.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008423)  
Yan po ay nangyari ng 2022, 2023, 2025, 2026.

**[07:53:09.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008424)  
At maski po ngayong 2027, nakalagay po dito na ang release po ng funds ay magiging subject pa sa guidelines na i-issue po ng DBM in coordination sa DILG, DOF, DEPDev,

**[07:53:24.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008425)  
at iba pang mga relevant agencies.

**[07:53:27.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008426)  
Hindi po ba kapag ganito ang sistema Madam Speaker, mas lumalawak po yung espasyo ng maari itong prone sa misuse, abuse,

**[07:53:38.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008427)  
kung lump sum na nga, discretionary pabatay dun sa ilalabas na menu na may guidelines na hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin natin nakikita.

**[07:53:49.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008428)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, I agree po with the Honorable Elago.

**[07:53:53.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008429)  
So, sa kasalukuyan po kasi yung special provision ngayon, ang nakalagay po, release of funds for the growth equity fund shall be subject to the guidelines to be issued by DBM in coordination with DILG, DOF, DEPDev, and other relevant agencies.

**[07:54:07.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008430)  
Yun lang po yung kasalukuyan na nakalagay sa GAA.

**[07:54:11.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008431)  
Pero siguro po similar to my response po to the Honorable EG Erice,

**[07:54:18.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008433)  
If we so wish po.

**[07:54:23.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008434)  
Bukas naman po yung DBM na pwede po natin i-refine yung special provision further.

**[07:54:30.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008435)  
Bukas po sila na ilagay na po natin dito kung ano po yung mga panuntunan na gusto po natin na idagdag.

**[07:54:37.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008436)  
O yung isa pa pong kanina, yung suhesyon po na talakay po natin kasama po si Honorable Erice,

**[07:54:47.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008437)  
ay pwedeng kapag na-develop po ng guidelines patungkol dito,

**[07:54:51.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008438)  
kailangan pong kunin yung approval ng Kongreso.

**[07:54:55.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008439)  
So, again, the DBM is open to any refinements to the special provision for us to, I guess, have more clear say on the part of Congress

**[07:55:09.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008440)  
kung ano po yung mga panuntunan na kailangan sundan para po sa growth equity fund.

**[07:55:14.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008441)  
Madam Speaker, malinaw po, meron namang malinaw na pagbatayan para hindi maging lump sum ang growth equity fund.

**[07:55:20.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008442)  
Ayan.

**[07:55:20.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008443)  
Kaya dapat itemized yan, dapat meron nang guidelines bago pa man maipasa itong GAA. Meron na dapat ngayong malinaw na pamantayan kung paano ito gagamitin.

**[07:55:31.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008444)  
At higit sa lahat po, kinakailangan natin mapanagot kung merong may abuso sa paggamit nito.

**[07:55:37.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008445)  
Dahil kung hindi po natin yan gagawin, mananatilin pong isang malinaw na pork fund, ang growth equity fund.

**[07:55:43.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008446)  
Kung walang malinaw na pamantayan kung paano ito tiyak na mapupunta sa servisyo na kailangan.

**[07:55:50.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008447)  
ng tao.

**[07:55:51.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008448)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker, Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:55:55.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008449)  
Manghihingi na lang po tayo ng ulat tungkol dun sa responsibility and accountability guidelines ng growth equity fund.

**[07:56:01.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-008450)  
Maraming salamat.

**[07:56:03.060] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008451)  
Madam Speaker, we will comply po. We will share the same to the Honorable Elago.

**[07:56:07.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008452)  
Thank you very much po.

**[07:56:09.140] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008453)  
Majority Leader.

**[07:56:11.280] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008454)  
Madam Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor, I move to recognize Representative Attorney Renee Louise Co of Kabataan Partylist.

**[07:56:20.820] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008455)  
Representative Renee Louise Co of Kabataan Partylist is hereby recognized for her interpellation.

**[07:56:26.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008456)  
Magandang gabi po, Madam Speaker. Maraming salamat po.

**[07:56:30.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008457)  
And magandang gabi rin po to the Distinguished Sponsor.

**[07:56:34.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008458)  
Tatanong din po tayo ang mga natanong na rin po natin sa ibang mga ahensya but we still felt it appropriate to ask for the lump sum funds dahil po classified under LGSF

**[07:56:47.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008459)  
ang support to the Barangay Development Program of the NTF-ELCAC.

**[07:56:50.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008460)  
Sa pagbaybay lang po ng kasaysayan ng Barangay Development Program of the NTF-ELCAC, nagsimula po ito ng GAA 2021 at nagpapatuloy nitong 2027 at tinignan po natin yung mga allotments na kada taon nag-iiba.

**[07:57:13.080] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008461)  
Pansin po natin na yung budget it also varies pero nag-vary din yung numbers ng mga barangay.

**[07:57:20.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008462)  
Ang recipient nito from 822 ng 2021 to ngayong GAA 2027, 1,948.

**[07:57:28.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008463)  
Wala pong isang taon na pare-pareho yung number ng mga barangays na purportedly cleared and therefore ay maaaring makakuha ng support sa BDP.

**[07:57:43.140] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008464)  
At iba-iba rin po yung allotments. 2021, 20 million each for the 822 barangays.

**[07:57:49.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008465)  
2022,

**[07:57:50.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008466)  
4 million each for the 1,406 barangays.

**[07:57:55.000] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008467)  
2023,

**[07:57:56.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008468)  
6.6 million each for 959 barangays.

**[07:58:01.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008469)  
2024,

**[07:58:01.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008470)  
2.5 million each for 864 barangays.

**[07:58:05.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008471)  
2025,

**[07:58:05.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008472)  
2.5 million each for 780 barangays.

**[07:58:09.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008473)  
2026,

**[07:58:10.500] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008474)  
10 million each for 808 barangays.

**[07:58:13.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008475)  
And ngayon po,

**[07:58:13.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008476)  
5 million each for 1,948 barangays.

**[07:58:17.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008477)  
Madam Speaker,

**[07:58:18.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008478)  
Good Sponsor,

**[07:58:19.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008479)  
hindi pa rin po

**[07:58:20.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008480)  
nasasagot sa amin yung tanong na what constitutes cleared barangays under the Barangay Development Program.

**[07:58:29.940] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008481)  
Meron po sa ating binigay na essentially paraan paano ikaklassify at gagawin po ng DILG at ico-collate ng DBM yung ganitong listahan in a year.

**[07:58:45.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008482)  
But we'd like to pursue that line of question, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

**[07:58:49.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008483)  
Thank you.

**[07:58:50.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008484)  
Natatrack po ba ng DBM sa budget books kung aling mga barangay ang naging beneficiary ng BDP sa mga nagdaang taon?

**[07:59:00.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008485)  
Natatrack po ba niya, Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, if one barangay has been cleared for all years, may ilang barangay ba na hindi maki-clear in a particular year, mawawala sa listahan, may bago, etc.?

**[07:59:15.600] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008486)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, ano po bang tracking na ginawa ng DBM dito?

**[07:59:20.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008487)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yung determination po patungkol sa ano yung cleared barangay, nagmumula po yan sa NTF-ELCAC.

**[07:59:33.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008488)  
Ang binibigay lang po sa DBM ay yung listahan na po ng mga cleared barangays.

**[07:59:39.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008489)  
Yung patungkol po dun sa beneficiary barangays, every year po, as you mentioned, for example, 2021, 822 barangays.

**[07:59:48.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008490)  
For 2022, 1,000.

**[07:59:50.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008491)  
406 barangays, and so on and so forth po, until 2026.

**[07:59:57.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008492)  
Isang beses lang po, pwedeng makatanggap.

**[08:00:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008493)  
ng SBDP, yung LGSF SBDP, yung particular cleared barangay.

**[08:00:06.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008494)  
So they can only receive once po.

**[08:00:09.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008495)  
Even though they're declared earlier as a cleared barangay or later,

**[08:00:15.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008496)  
nakadepende po sa kailan po isusumite ng NTF-ELCAC sa DBM

**[08:00:21.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008497)  
para po as a qualified barangay po for LGSF SBDP.

**[08:00:27.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008498)  
So Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, is the sponsor confirming that this is a one-time grant?

**[08:00:34.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008499)  
Meaning kung nabigay na po ito ng isang taon, ay hindi na po ito mabibigay sa mga succeeding years?

**[08:00:41.040] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008500)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor.

**[08:00:42.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008501)  
Yes po, Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[08:00:45.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008502)  
DBM confirms po that this is a one-time grant.

**[08:00:47.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008503)  
Once you've received it, you can no longer receive it in succeeding years.

**[08:00:53.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008504)  
Madam Speaker, Good Sponsor, hindi po ba unfair sa barangay?

**[08:00:57.160] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008505)  
Yung barangays who've declared themselves cleared earlier, 20 million each ang nakuha.

**[08:01:03.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008506)  
Lalo for example, in 2021, kumpara po sa mga ibang taon, for example, 2024, 2025,

**[08:01:09.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008507)  
2.5 million pesos lang kada barangay yung nakuha.

**[08:01:16.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008508)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, yes, we agree with the point.

**[08:01:20.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008509)  
The DBM agrees with the point of our Distinguished Colleague.

**[08:01:24.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008510)  
Yung determination po kasi as to how much,

**[08:01:26.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008511)  
how much each barangay would receive in a particular year

**[08:01:30.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008512)  
is dependent on the allocation that LGSF SBDP receives for a particular year.

**[08:01:36.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008513)  
Because for a particular year, the number of beneficiary barangays is predetermined by NTF-ELCAC.

**[08:01:44.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008514)  
So, halimbawa po, nagkataon na ang liit ng alokasyon ng SBDP sa taon na yun,

**[08:01:52.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008515)  
yun po, I agree po, nagkakataon po na,

**[08:01:56.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008516)  
mababa talaga yung natatanggap nila.

**[08:01:58.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008517)  
May pagkakataon din naman po na konti lang sila na cleared barangays na nag-qualify,

**[08:02:04.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008518)  
tas malaki yung alokasyon, so mas malaki po yung natatanggap nila.

**[08:02:07.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008519)  
So, the DBM recognizes po the point of our Distinguished Colleague na

**[08:02:12.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008520)  
because of the formula and the determination,

**[08:02:18.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008521)  
nagkakataon nga po talaga that some years are higher than others.

**[08:02:22.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008522)  
And Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[08:02:24.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008523)  
since na-mention na one time,

**[08:02:26.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008524)  
masasabi po ba ng DBM with definitiveness na wala pong isang barangay na duplicate

**[08:02:35.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008525)  
na nakakuha ng multiple times para po sa barangay development program?

**[08:03:05.810] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008526)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[08:03:07.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008527)  
kami po ni Sec Kim dito sa likod, tinatanong po namin yung team,

**[08:03:11.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008528)  
are you absolutely sure that there's no barangay that received the SBDP twice?

**[08:03:18.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008529)  
And they confirm po, as far as they know po, there's no barangay po that has received it twice.

**[08:03:24.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008530)  
There's also data in Compass po,

**[08:03:26.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008531)  
in the DBM website that we can use to verify that information.

**[08:03:31.660] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008532)  
Does DBM check that po yearly na kung anumang listahang binibigay ng DILG

**[08:03:38.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008533)  
or ang iba't ibang ahensya ay hindi po nakakuha na noon pa?

**[08:04:11.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008534)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague,

**[08:04:12.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008535)  
sorry, we're just probing also, making sure that the answer is correct.

**[08:04:35.010] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008536)  
Madam Speaker,

**[08:04:38.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008537)  
the DBM relies greatly on the list,

**[08:04:44.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008538)  
the recommended barangays that is included in the list submitted by the NTF-ELCAC,

**[08:04:51.580] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008539)  
but the DBM agrees that they should do a second check,

**[08:04:56.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008540)  
just to make sure that there are no duplicate barangays po.

**[08:05:02.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008541)  
Ang separate check na po ba ito, gagawin po ba ngayon,

**[08:05:06.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008542)  
or pwede po bang magsumite na lang po ang report ng DBM?

**[08:05:19.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008543)  
Yes, Madam Speaker, so they rely on the attestation,

**[08:05:23.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008544)  
so there's a certification that NTF-ELCAC,

**[08:05:26.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008545)  
specifically issues to certify that there are no duplicate barangays,

**[08:05:31.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008546)  
but the DBM commits po that from here on out, moving forward,

**[08:05:35.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008547)  
they will do a second check po for duplicates.

**[08:05:39.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008548)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, ito rin po yung line of questioning natin,

**[08:05:42.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008549)  
I think, noong nagtanong tayo sa general principles,

**[08:05:46.260] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008550)  
aside from barangay development program,

**[08:05:48.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008551)  
kahit po yung challenge natin sa DBM for confidential and intelligence funds,

**[08:05:54.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008552)  
paano po ba ine-exercise ng DBM?

**[08:05:56.840] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008553)  
Yung mandato nila na hindi lang sana collator ng mga budget requests

**[08:06:03.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008554)  
and i-compile for a NEP,

**[08:06:08.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008555)  
pero ano po bang paraan na ginagawa nila to ensure na

**[08:06:12.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008556)  
yung mga binubukas ng mga ibat-ibang ahensya at that level pa lang

**[08:06:17.560] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008557)  
before po isubmit yung request for the budget at maaprubahan

**[08:06:25.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008558)  
at ma-spot maybe ng COA,

**[08:06:26.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008559)  
So, two years down the line, kung mayroon pong pagkakamali,

**[08:06:30.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008560)  
may opportunity ang DBM kung paano po siya,

**[08:06:33.580] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008561)  
hindi lang i-double check, pero tignan kung mayroon pong kailangan i-improve or hindi.

**[08:06:39.760] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008562)  
Nonetheless, Madam Speaker, good sponsor,

**[08:06:42.900] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008563)  
kung mayroon pong maiprovide yung DBM na kopya ng attestation

**[08:06:48.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008564)  
para makita po natin kung ano pong mga checks yung ginagawa

**[08:06:52.120] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008565)  
ng hindi lang ng DBM pero ng NTF-ELCAC and DILG,

**[08:06:56.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008566)  
para makita kung ano yung mga proseso nila sa paglatag,

**[08:07:04.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008567)  
anong mga baranggay, yung cleared or hindi.

**[08:07:06.340] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008568)  
Pero dahil Madam Speaker, as I mentioned nga po earlier,

**[08:07:09.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008569)  
yung isang point na po na, well, one, unfair.

**[08:07:12.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008570)  
How can we say na each baranggay makukuha nila yung kailangan nila

**[08:07:19.240] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008571)  
o yung dapat na makuha nila kung each year mukhang dependent sa allocation?

**[08:07:26.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008572)  
Yung makukuha o hindi.

**[08:07:28.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008573)  
20 million for this year, 2.5 million the next.

**[08:07:32.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008574)  
What's to say na ito talaga yung parang solusyon na kailangan nila?

**[08:07:37.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008575)  
And dahil, secondly, Madam Speaker, and this is our standing critique of the program,

**[08:07:42.020] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008576)  
nasa budget naman po ng mga iba't-ibang ahensya na may specific mandate

**[08:07:47.460] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008577)  
to provide these services na pwedeng dun po ilagay yung pangailangan

**[08:07:54.520] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008578)  
ng mga local government units natin.

**[08:07:56.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008579)  
Rather than through this program na standing pa rin,

**[08:08:01.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008580)  
yung pinupoint out natin na quote-unquote conditional development po

**[08:08:05.820] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008581)  
ang inooffer ng barangay development program ng NTF-ELCAC.

**[08:08:10.220] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008582)  
And third point, kung this conditional development comes at the cost of the suppression of rights

**[08:08:18.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008583)  
and freedoms of the people, dahil ang report sa atin on ground,

**[08:08:22.780] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008584)  
paano ba nag-clear yung isang baranggay, tatanong-tanongin,

**[08:08:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008586)  
kung ang student leader sa isang campus ay affiliated ka daw ba sa leftist groups?

**[08:08:33.400] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008587)  
Can you sign this memo to say hindi? Etc.

**[08:08:37.480] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008588)  
Surveillance, harassment, lahat po ito ay begging the question na

**[08:08:43.740] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008589)  
is this the best way for development?

**[08:08:47.680] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008590)  
Or is it, you know, proper funding of the different projects

**[08:08:52.700] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008591)  
to the appropriate line items to the different agencies?

**[08:08:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008592)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, hindi po ito ang tunay na pagpapaunlad.

**[08:09:01.540] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008593)  
Hindi nito natutugunan ang sinasabi ng layunin na wakasan ng armadong tunggalian

**[08:09:06.320] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008594)  
na nangyayari sa bansa natin ngayon.

**[08:09:08.180] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008595)  
Sa halip na ilagay ang programang malabo ang proseso at pamantayang para magpa-clear

**[08:09:14.280] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008596)  
at meron nga pong maaaring mangyari na may tunggalian pa sa mga baranggay

**[08:09:19.200] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008597)  
dahil hindi po pantay yung nakukuha nila,

**[08:09:21.640] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008598)  
mas mabuti pang ilagay na lang ang pondo sa direktang mga serbisyong panlipunan.

**[08:09:25.880] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008599)  
That's all, Madam Speaker.

**[08:09:26.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008600)  
Madam Speaker, good sponsor, we look forward to receiving the report

**[08:09:30.860] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008601)  
on how DILG and NTF-ELCAC attests na hindi po duplicates and whatever else methods

**[08:09:41.960] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008602)  
to ensure na hindi naman nauulit yung mga baranggay

**[08:09:46.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008603)  
as per the rules and regulations of this program.

**[08:09:51.060] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008604)  
But for now, I have no further questions.

**[08:09:54.360] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008605)  
Thank you very much to the sponsor

**[08:09:56.800] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008606)  
for answering our questions and I yield my time to the floor.

**[08:10:00.920] Rep. Renee Louise M. Co** (asr-008607)  
Madam Speaker.

**[08:10:01.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008608)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

**[08:10:03.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008609)  
Thank you very much to the Honorable Renee Co.

**[08:10:06.160] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008610)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:10:07.520] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008611)  
Madam Speaker, next to interpellate the sponsor,

**[08:10:09.980] Rep. Beverley Rose A. Dimacuha** (asr-008612)  
I move to recognize Representative Antonio L. Tinio of ACT Teachers Partylist.

**[08:10:15.320] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-008613)  
Representative Antonio Tinio of ACT Teachers Partylist is hereby recognized for his interpellation.

**[08:10:20.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008614)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[08:10:23.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008615)  
Sa sponsor,

**[08:10:24.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008616)  
Bibilisan na lang po natin ang interpellation.

**[08:10:31.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008617)  
Less than 30 minutes na po.

**[08:10:33.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008618)  
Di ba?

**[08:10:35.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008619)  
Hindi po.

**[08:10:36.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008620)  
Okay, unang topic po natin ay yung pa ring Local Government Support Fund

**[08:10:42.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008621)  
dahil nasa lump sum funds po tayo.

**[08:10:45.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008622)  
Meron po tayong presentation.

**[08:10:47.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008623)  
Again, yan.

**[08:10:50.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008624)  
Okay.

**[08:10:50.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008625)  
So, nakikita po natin, again, one decade plus the proposal.

**[08:10:54.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008626)  
For 2027.

**[08:10:56.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008627)  
So, hindi ito unang pagkakataon na tumaas ang LGSF.

**[08:11:00.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008628)  
So, you can see in 2018,

**[08:11:03.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008629)  
ay 51 billion ang inabot nito.

**[08:11:09.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008630)  
As proposed, pero actually, ang appropriated, the orange one,

**[08:11:14.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008631)  
the highest was in 2021.

**[08:11:17.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008632)  
Sorry, 2017 pala.

**[08:11:20.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008633)  
2017.

**[08:11:20.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008634)  
2017.

**[08:11:21.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008635)  
Unang budget ni...

**[08:11:24.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008636)  
Pangulong Duterte, nung panahon niya.

**[08:11:26.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008637)  
So, ang pinakamataas nun ay 39 billion.

**[08:11:30.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008638)  
No?

**[08:11:30.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008639)  
Actual appropriations.

**[08:11:33.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008640)  
Pero talaga, bakit ba naging mainit na topic ang LGF?

**[08:11:38.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008641)  
Dahil sa pagbukol nito, especially in the 2026 GAA.

**[08:11:45.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008642)  
Yung kasalukuyang taon.

**[08:11:47.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008643)  
No?

**[08:11:47.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008644)  
Dahil nakita natin, noong 2025, yung appropriated, yung orange,

**[08:11:54.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008645)  
22.99 billion ang LGSF.

**[08:11:58.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008646)  
Pero sa 2026 budget, naging 57.8 billion.

**[08:12:04.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008647)  
No?

**[08:12:05.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008648)  
So, almost times 3 ang inilaki.

**[08:12:09.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008649)  
No?

**[08:12:10.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008650)  
Kaya po, controversial ngayon.

**[08:12:12.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008651)  
Even at the time, Madam Speaker,

**[08:12:15.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008652)  
anong ginawa ito sa BICAM?

**[08:12:17.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008653)  
BICAM po nangyari ito.

**[08:12:19.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008654)  
No?

**[08:12:19.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008655)  
Sinabi na po ng kinatawang ito,

**[08:12:22.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008656)  
presidential LGU pork yan.

**[08:12:27.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008657)  
Yun ang tinawag natin dyan.

**[08:12:28.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008658)  
LGU pork ng presidente.

**[08:12:31.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008659)  
No?

**[08:12:32.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008660)  
At, mamaya, ipapoint out din natin,

**[08:12:37.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008661)  
saan ang galing yung pondo na nilagay dyan.

**[08:12:40.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008662)  
Pero yun ang point.

**[08:12:41.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008663)  
Pinapakita lang natin kung bakit mainit na topic ngayon ang LGSF.

**[08:12:45.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008664)  
Next slide na po.

**[08:12:50.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008665)  
So, pinapakita lang yung mga components

**[08:12:51.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008666)  
nung LGSF.

**[08:12:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008667)  
Iba-iba nga.

**[08:12:55.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008668)  
Nabanggit kanina, Growth Equity Fund.

**[08:12:58.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008669)  
Kanina lang, tinatanong yung tungkol sa

**[08:13:00.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008670)  
Barangay Development Program.

**[08:13:05.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008671)  
Pero ang pinakamalaking component yan,

**[08:13:07.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008672)  
single biggest component,

**[08:13:09.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008673)  
is yung tinatawag na financial assistance

**[08:13:11.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008674)  
to local government units.

**[08:13:13.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008675)  
At yun yung talagang lumaki.

**[08:13:14.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008676)  
So, it's 37.49 billion.

**[08:13:19.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008677)  
Okay.

**[08:13:20.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008678)  
Next slide.

**[08:13:21.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008679)  
Ito lang.

**[08:13:24.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008680)  
Pinapakita lang kung gaano yung naging paglaki

**[08:13:27.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008681)  
ng financial assistance to local government units.

**[08:13:30.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008682)  
So, as I said,

**[08:13:32.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008683)  
bumukol talaga nung,

**[08:13:36.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008684)  
well, lumaki na.

**[08:13:37.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008685)  
Actually, papalaki na

**[08:13:38.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008686)  
during the Marcos Junior Administration.

**[08:13:43.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008687)  
As you can see,

**[08:13:44.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008688)  
may pataas na trajectory.

**[08:13:47.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008689)  
2025, it was already at 18.9 billion.

**[08:13:51.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008690)  
But 2026, talagang

**[08:13:54.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008691)  
nag-skyrocket to 37.4 billion.

**[08:14:00.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008692)  
And also note,

**[08:14:01.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008693)  
na lumalaki yung orange bar.

**[08:14:04.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008694)  
Ibig sabihin nun,

**[08:14:05.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008695)  
kongreso ang nagdadagdag.

**[08:14:06.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008696)  
Hindi yan NEP.

**[08:14:08.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008697)  
So, congressional intervention,

**[08:14:10.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008698)  
insertion, whatever you may call it.

**[08:14:14.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008699)  
Okay.

**[08:14:15.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008700)  
Now,

**[08:14:16.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008701)  
kanina, pinakita po ng kasamahan natin

**[08:14:19.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008702)  
yung regional allocation.

**[08:14:21.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008703)  
Diba?

**[08:14:22.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008704)  
Yung regional and then hanggang mga city level.

**[08:14:24.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008705)  
Tapos, hinighlight nga.

**[08:14:26.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008706)  
Bakit ganon?

**[08:14:27.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008707)  
Ano ba ang kriteriya?

**[08:14:28.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008708)  
Sino nag-de-decide?

**[08:14:30.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008709)  
At bakit tila mas malaki

**[08:14:32.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008710)  
yung mga mas mayamang syudad?

**[08:14:34.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008711)  
Mas malaki pa ang nakukuha?

**[08:14:35.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008712)  
Well, ito naman, additional lang.

**[08:14:38.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008713)  
Pero ito, mas sa level ng individual projects.

**[08:14:41.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008714)  
Para ipakita lang natin sa napunta

**[08:14:43.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008715)  
yung mga, yung financial assistance.

**[08:14:48.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008716)  
So, these are the top five

**[08:14:50.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008717)  
biggest projects.

**[08:14:51.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008718)  
Biggest single projects.

**[08:14:54.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008719)  
Particularly, yung capital outlay projects

**[08:14:57.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008720)  
na pinunduhan ng financial assistance.

**[08:15:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008721)  
Yung FALGU.

**[08:15:01.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008722)  
Okay?

**[08:15:02.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008723)  
Noong 2025, single biggest project, 500 million.

**[08:15:06.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008724)  
Para nga yan sa multi-purpose building sa pamantasan ng lungsod ng Maynila.

**[08:15:10.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008725)  
500 million.

**[08:15:12.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008726)  
Second biggest, yung 450 million na ito nasa balita na talaga.

**[08:15:18.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008727)  
Yung para sa retrofitting and rehab ng Robredo Coliseum sa Naga City.

**[08:15:25.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008728)  
Third, Guimaras Province.

**[08:15:27.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008729)  
200 million peso multi-purpose building, phase two.

**[08:15:34.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008730)  
Fourth, nakita naman natin dyan, a farm-to-market road, 150 million.

**[08:15:39.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008731)  
Malaking farm-to-market road ito.

**[08:15:41.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008732)  
Kasi usually, ang farm-to-market road, 10, 15 million lang.

**[08:15:45.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008733)  
Okay, Caloocan City, that's the fifth multi-purpose building para sa PNPBFP.

**[08:15:53.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008734)  
135 million.

**[08:15:54.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008735)  
That's 2025.

**[08:15:56.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008736)  
2026.

**[08:15:57.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008737)  
Para magka-idea din lang tayo, ang pinakamalaking infra-project, single, Batangas.

**[08:16:05.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008738)  
Partikular sa Lipa.

**[08:16:06.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008739)  
Multi-purpose building, phase one, 500 million pesos, single project.

**[08:16:12.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008740)  
Okay, tapos San Juan City, may dalawang San Juan City.

**[08:16:15.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008741)  
San Juan City, medical or hospital equipment, 356 million pesos.

**[08:16:22.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008742)  
Quezon City, rehab of a road, 179 million.

**[08:16:27.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008743)  
Laguna Province, purchase of 40 units ambulance, 143 million pesos.

**[08:16:38.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008744)  
Wow!

**[08:16:39.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008745)  
Napawaw din yung isang kasama natin dito.

**[08:16:42.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008746)  
Dahil alam ko, lahat ng LGU.

**[08:16:46.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008747)  
Diba?

**[08:16:46.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008748)  
Yan ang gusto.

**[08:16:48.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008749)  
And then San Juan City, hospital buildings, 100 million.

**[08:16:51.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008750)  
So, just to give an idea kung ano yung posible at binibigay.

**[08:16:57.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008751)  
Through

**[08:16:57.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008752)  
Yung LGSF, particularly yung financial assistance.

**[08:17:02.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008753)  
So, ang mga tanong nga, siguro kahit nung mga kinatawan dito, buti sila.

**[08:17:09.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008754)  
Paano naman yung iba?

**[08:17:10.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008755)  
Paano naman kami?

**[08:17:11.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008756)  
Who decides?

**[08:17:12.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008757)  
So, yun nga ang tanong.

**[08:17:16.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008758)  
Pwede po bang maipaliwanag?

**[08:17:18.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008759)  
Sino ang nagdi-decide kung sino ang mabibigyan, maaprubahan?

**[08:17:25.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008760)  
At ano yung criteria?

**[08:17:27.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008761)  
Lalo pa dito sa mga infrastructure projects, parang wala yatang limit ito.

**[08:17:35.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008762)  
Kasi yung financial assistance, typically, for infrastructure, it's 5 million, 10 million, pero tila umaabot hanggang 500 million.

**[08:17:49.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008763)  
So, anong klaseng guidelines po ang nag-aalaw nito?

**[08:17:51.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008764)  
So, could the sponsor enlighten us on how the FALGU works?

**[08:17:57.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008765)  
Who approves?

**[08:17:59.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008766)  
At bakit?

**[08:18:00.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008767)  
Ganon.

**[08:18:02.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008768)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, so the DBM, what we state in the GAA is that the DBM will be the one to execute from the point of evaluating to the point of releasing of the LGSF based on the menu po na ating inilalagay doon po sa GAA.

**[08:18:26.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008769)  
Okay.

**[08:18:27.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008770)  
So, in regard to how they evaluate, they have a scorecard po that they use as a basis.

**[08:18:34.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008771)  
That is their evaluation criteria.

**[08:18:36.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008772)  
Tulad po ng nabanggit, ilan po sa mga tinitignan nila ay good financial housekeeping, functionality of the local development council, compliance with subay-bayan reporting requirements, financial accomplishment, physical accomplishment, and the like.

**[08:18:53.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008773)  
Nakabase din po sila doon po sa request ng mga LGUs.

**[08:18:57.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008774)  
So, yung iba po kasi LGU nag-request, yung iba naman po hindi din.

**[08:19:01.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008775)  
So, limited din po sila by the types of requests na dumadating sa kanila.

**[08:19:06.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008776)  
So, all of the whole process po from the time of setting the criteria and getting the requests po through the portal of DBM, evaluating it and eventually releasing it, lahat po yan nasa loob po ng DBM.

**[08:19:27.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008777)  
Well, una, emphasize ko lang.

**[08:19:29.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008778)  
Kaya po namin tinawag to, last year pa, this is presidential pork.

**[08:19:34.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008779)  
Kasi sabi natin, discretionary ultimately.

**[08:19:37.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008780)  
Malaking lump sum, tapos ultimately, it's up to the executive, president, to decide kung sino ang magagawaran at magkano.

**[08:19:49.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008781)  
Parang ganon.

**[08:19:51.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008782)  
Ngayon, ang nililinaw po rito, actually, ang patakaran.

**[08:19:57.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008783)  
ay DBM ang gumawa ng guidelines, DBM ang nag-evaluate ng mga applications or submissions, at DBM din ang nag-a-approve.

**[08:20:09.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008784)  
Including kung magkano yung ibibigay. Tama po ba?

**[08:20:12.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008785)  
Tama po, Madam Speaker.

**[08:20:14.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008786)  
At tama rin po ba na under the guidelines of DBM, walang limit or cap, particularly doon sa capital outlay projects.

**[08:20:21.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008787)  
Kaya po nakakakita tayo ng 500 million na isang proyekto lang.

**[08:20:27.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008788)  
Tama po.

**[08:20:27.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008789)  
Madam Speaker, wala pong cap.

**[08:20:29.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008790)  
Wala rin cap. So, theoretically, pwede. Kahit 1 billion, pwede.

**[08:20:33.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008791)  
So, ganun nga.

**[08:20:35.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008792)  
Okay, hindi po ba, wala po tayong nakikitang concern doon.

**[08:20:39.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008793)  
From the point of view of kahit yung equity, katulad ng sinasabi kanina, napakaraming mga LGU na nangangailangan ng infrastructure.

**[08:20:49.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008794)  
So, ano po tingin ng DBM? Guidelines nila yan eh.

**[08:20:55.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008795)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague.

**[08:20:57.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008796)  
Upon conferring with the DBM, yes po, we agree with the point of our distinguished colleague.

**[08:21:03.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008797)  
A cap is something that they can explore in the evaluation criteria in the guidelines that they will adopt for 2027.

**[08:21:14.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008798)  
Pwede po yan. Kasi tama naman po yung punto ng ating distinguished colleague na you have a limited fiscal space.

**[08:21:21.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008799)  
There's only a finite amount that's allocated for FALGU.

**[08:21:26.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008800)  
Tapos, biglang.

**[08:21:27.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008801)  
May malaking-malaki na isang request na makakain yung malaking porsyento noong kabuuan po.

**[08:21:34.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008802)  
So, the DBM agrees po that putting a cap is something that can be explored in the succeeding fiscal years po.

**[08:21:41.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008803)  
Okay, well, next point.

**[08:21:47.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008804)  
Ang binabanggit po talaga ay ang tumatanggap ng request at nag-a-approve from the LGUs at nag-a-approve DBM daw.

**[08:21:54.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008805)  
Ano po ang papel ng presidente?

**[08:22:16.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008806)  
Madam Speaker, distinguished colleague, as to the receiving of the requests, evaluation, approval, and eventual release,

**[08:22:25.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008807)  
wala pong involvement ang Presidente.

**[08:22:28.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008809)  
Walang involvement ang presidente.

**[08:22:31.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008810)  
Madam Speaker, and to the sponsor, pinag-uusapan po natin ay Local Government Support Fund and under that, the financial assistance to local government units.

**[08:22:43.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008811)  
Correct.

**[08:22:44.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008812)  
Tama po.

**[08:22:45.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008813)  
At hindi po ba kasama ito sa lump sum funds?

**[08:22:48.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008814)  
Tama po.

**[08:22:49.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008815)  
These are lump sums.

**[08:22:51.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008816)  
Correct?

**[08:22:53.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008817)  
Lump sum appropriations.

**[08:22:54.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008818)  
Correct?

**[08:22:54.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008819)  
Yes, Madam Speaker.

**[08:22:55.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008820)  
These are lump sum appropriations.

**[08:22:57.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008821)  
Yes.

**[08:22:57.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008822)  
At tama po ba o mali na ang pagbabudgeting, ang batas sa pagbabudgeting, bukod sa General Appropriations Act,

**[08:23:06.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008823)  
ang umiiral na batas sa pagbabudget ay Executive Order 292, otherwise known as the Administrative Code of the Philippines.

**[08:23:16.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008824)  
Tama po.

**[08:23:16.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008825)  
...

**[08:23:21.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008826)  
Umiiral ang the provisions

**[08:23:27.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008827)  
of the Administrative Code apply to budgeting.

**[08:23:32.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008828)  
Tama po.

**[08:23:32.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008829)  
Tama po.

**[08:23:33.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008830)  
EO 292 po ang batay.

**[08:23:35.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008831)  
Yeah.

**[08:23:36.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008832)  
Including lump sum funds.

**[08:23:38.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008833)  
Section.

**[08:23:39.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008834)  
Puntahan po natin ang Book 6, Chapter 5, Section 35.

**[08:23:43.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008835)  
Okay?

**[08:23:44.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008836)  
So, dapat nag-a-apply ito.

**[08:23:46.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008837)  
Ang sabi po, Section 35, Special Budgets for Lump Sum Appropriations.

**[08:23:52.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008838)  
So, ayun na po.

**[08:23:53.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008839)  
In-establish natin lump sum to.

**[08:23:54.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008840)  
So, expenditures from lump sum appropriations.

**[08:23:57.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008841)  
Authorized for any purpose or for any department.

**[08:24:01.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008842)  
Authorized, meaning in-authorized ng Kongreso.

**[08:24:04.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008843)  
For any department, office, or agency in any annual General Appropriations Act or other act.

**[08:24:11.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008844)  
And from any fund of the national government.

**[08:24:14.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008845)  
Shall be made in accordance with a special budget to be approved by the President.

**[08:24:23.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008846)  
Okay.

**[08:24:24.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008847)  
So, ayun lang po.

**[08:24:25.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008848)  
Gusto ko lang po ma-reconcile yung sagot nyo.

**[08:24:27.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008849)  
Na sabi nyo, walang anumang involvement ng President from pagtanggap hanggang pag-evaluate hanggang pag-approve hanggang pag-release.

**[08:24:37.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008850)  
Pero sabi po sa Admin Code, very clearly, expenditures from lump sum appropriations kinakailangan to be approved by the President.

**[08:24:49.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008851)  
Let me just elaborate.

**[08:24:50.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008852)  
Bakit po ganyan yung batas?

**[08:24:53.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008853)  
Eh, ang intention po dyan, that's a safeguard.

**[08:24:57.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008854)  
Dahil nga may lump sum ka, hindi itemized dyan, in-approved ng Kongreso, as a safeguard against abuse, kailangan may pirma ng Presidente.

**[08:25:08.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008855)  
At alam naman natin, pag may pirma ng Presidente, hindi basta-basta yun.

**[08:25:11.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008856)  
Hindi pipirma ang Presidente sa anumang piece of paper.

**[08:25:16.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008857)  
Merong vetting, merong validation, verification, etc.

**[08:25:19.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008858)  
Kaya, importante po yung approval ng Presidente.

**[08:25:25.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008859)  
Ano pong paliwanag?

**[08:25:27.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008860)  
Parang nilalabag ang probisyon ng Admin Code sa inyong kalakaran.

**[08:25:35.900] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008861)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, meron po dito din sa parehong section po, also in Section 35, Chapter 5, Book 6 of EO 292,

**[08:25:46.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008862)  
yung first line po ng last sentence sa first paragraph, which says, unless otherwise provided by law.

**[08:25:55.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008863)  
In this case po,

**[08:25:57.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008864)  
the GAA, through the special provision authorized by Congress, authorizes the DBM to issue the guidelines, criteria, and essentially administer the implementation of the lump sum funds.

**[08:26:16.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008865)  
Meron din po, relatedly, in Section 47 of EO 292, Section 47, Chapter 5, Book 6 of the same executive order,

**[08:26:27.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008866)  
it provides that the Department of Budget shall administer the lump sum funds appropriated in the General Appropriations Act,

**[08:26:35.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008867)  
except as otherwise specified therein, including the issuance of treasury warrants, covering payments to implementing agencies and other creditors,

**[08:26:44.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008868)  
as may be authorized by the President.

**[08:26:45.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008869)  
So, may dalawa po na nagsasabi na DBM po, para pong dine-delegate ng Pangulo yung authority sa DBM,

**[08:26:56.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008870)  
para po sa implementation ng lump sum funds.

**[08:26:59.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008871)  
Well, let me take the second one you mentioned. May second provision kayo.

**[08:27:02.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008872)  
That only provides that the DBM administer the fund.

**[08:27:09.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008873)  
Diba? Administer.

**[08:27:10.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008874)  
So, sila, tama.

**[08:27:11.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008875)  
Kayo, tatanggap, pwedeng mag-evaluate and so on.

**[08:27:14.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008876)  
Pero iba yung approval.

**[08:27:17.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008877)  
That doesn't talk about approval of the President.

**[08:27:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008878)  
So, that takes it first.

**[08:27:21.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008879)  
Sabi nyo, well, okay, unless otherwise,

**[08:27:25.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008880)  
expressly,

**[08:27:26.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008881)  
provided by law.

**[08:27:27.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008882)  
Tignan po natin

**[08:27:29.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008883)  
ang mga special provisions ng LGUs.

**[08:27:33.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008884)  
Ayan na po.

**[08:27:34.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008885)  
Ayan.

**[08:27:35.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008886)  
Financial assistance to LGUs.

**[08:27:39.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008887)  
The allocation of the financial assistance to LGUs shall be based on criteria to be developed by the DBM

**[08:27:47.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008888)  
in coordination with other relevant agencies taking into consideration LGUs adherence

**[08:27:56.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008889)  
to established governance standards.

**[08:27:59.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008890)  
Disbursement and utilization by LGUs shall be subject to the pertinent provisions of existing government procurement laws, etc.

**[08:28:08.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008891)  
etc.

**[08:28:10.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008892)  
Disbursement and utilization, etc.

**[08:28:14.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008893)  
Nowhere does it provide for approval.

**[08:28:19.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008894)  
So, wala po.

**[08:28:22.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008895)  
Wala po.

**[08:28:23.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008896)  
Inaral po natin.

**[08:28:24.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008897)  
Wala.

**[08:28:24.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008898)  
Walang sinasabi.

**[08:28:26.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008899)  
Na dinelegate ng Kongreso through express provision yung approval sa inyo sa DBM, I mean.

**[08:28:36.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008900)  
So, I hope the sponsor, I will no longer belabor this point, but I hope the sponsor will take note na baka, alam nyo, yung mga lump sum funds,

**[08:28:51.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008901)  
isa-isang kine-question na sa Supreme Court, di ba?

**[08:28:55.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008902)  
Yung unprogrammed appropriations, may pending dyan.

**[08:29:00.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008903)  
Yung, ano pa nga ba?

**[08:29:04.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008904)  
Yung, eto, ngayon, baka mamaya, etong LGSF, isa ring unprogrammed appropriations, ay masama na rin.

**[08:29:15.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008905)  
At nakikita ko, merong mukhang merong paglabag sa kasalukuyang kalakaran.

**[08:29:22.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008906)  
Because, wala akong nakikitang batas.

**[08:29:25.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008907)  
That expressly delegates the approval to the DBM.

**[08:29:40.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008908)  
Madam Speaker, Distinguished Colleague, on this point po, the DBM assures that currently, wala po, the approval lies with the DBM.

**[08:29:51.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008909)  
Okay.

**[08:29:52.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008910)  
But, they submit to the wisdom of Congress.

**[08:29:55.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008911)  
If we want to expressly state it, in the special provision

**[08:30:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008912)  
for LGSF

**[08:30:01.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008913)  
for LGSF for example

**[08:30:03.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008914)  
for 2027

**[08:30:05.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008915)  
we can expressly state

**[08:30:07.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008916)  
that the approval is required

**[08:30:10.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008917)  
by for example

**[08:30:12.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008918)  
by the president or if it

**[08:30:14.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008919)  
lies with the DBM

**[08:30:15.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008920)  
because there are two different kinds

**[08:30:18.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008921)  
there are two other kinds of lump sum funds

**[08:30:20.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008922)  
wherein that is expressly

**[08:30:22.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008923)  
stated. The first

**[08:30:23.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008924)  
is the contingent funds and the second

**[08:30:25.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008925)  
would be the NDRMF

**[08:30:28.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008926)  
so the DBM submits

**[08:30:30.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008927)  
if Congress so wishes

**[08:30:32.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008928)  
that for the GAA

**[08:30:33.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008929)  
2027 we can modify the special provision

**[08:30:36.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008930)  
okay and also

**[08:30:38.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008931)  
yung dati meron ding express provision

**[08:30:40.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008932)  
on this on authorization

**[08:30:41.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008933)  
yung unprogrammed

**[08:30:44.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008934)  
appropriations which is also

**[08:30:46.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008935)  
under lump sum funds. Meron ding express provision

**[08:30:48.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008936)  
po yun. Specifically

**[08:30:50.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008937)  
referring to section 35

**[08:30:52.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008938)  
but anyway and also

**[08:30:54.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008939)  
sabi ng section 35

**[08:30:55.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008940)  
unless otherwise expressly provided

**[08:30:58.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008941)  
by law. So kailangan talaga

**[08:31:00.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008942)  
merong express provision ng batas.

**[08:31:02.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008943)  
Anyway noted na po yung sagot

**[08:31:04.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008944)  
that may address

**[08:31:06.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008945)  
the

**[08:31:07.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008946)  
LGSF for 2027

**[08:31:10.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008947)  
fiscal year 2027

**[08:31:12.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008948)  
but not for the previous years. Yun lang po

**[08:31:14.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008949)  
ang pinapoint out natin. Okay.

**[08:31:17.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008950)  
Next topic. And hopefully

**[08:31:20.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008951)  
this is more on a

**[08:31:22.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008952)  
lighter note.

**[08:31:24.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008953)  
Okay. Yung

**[08:31:25.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008954)  
yung

**[08:31:25.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008955)  
yung

**[08:31:28.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008956)  
miscellaneous personnel benefits fund.

**[08:31:30.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008957)  
Yan na po. Okay.

**[08:31:33.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008958)  
Tignan po natin.

**[08:31:40.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008959)  
Una may historical na naman tayo.

**[08:31:42.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008960)  
Okay. Ito po yung again one

**[08:31:44.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008961)  
decade of the MPBF.

**[08:31:47.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008962)  
Yung miscellaneous

**[08:31:48.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008963)  
personnel benefits fund. Yan po

**[08:31:50.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008964)  
yung lump sum fund na dito

**[08:31:52.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008965)  
pinagkukunan yung mga

**[08:31:53.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008966)  
dagdag sa sweldo,

**[08:31:56.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008967)  
dagdag sa allowance or benefits.

**[08:31:58.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008968)  
O kaya additional

**[08:32:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008969)  
plantilla items

**[08:32:02.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008970)  
and so on and so forth.

**[08:32:04.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008971)  
So importante yan para sa ating

**[08:32:06.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008972)  
personnel. Ngayon what has been the history

**[08:32:08.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008973)  
over the years?

**[08:32:10.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008974)  
Noong earlier

**[08:32:11.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008975)  
years, 2016

**[08:32:13.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008976)  
up to

**[08:32:15.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008977)  
2018, more or less

**[08:32:18.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008978)  
kung ano yung pinropose

**[08:32:20.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008979)  
sa NEP, yun din ang

**[08:32:22.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008980)  
aaprubahan ng Kongreso.

**[08:32:24.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008981)  
Pero nakita natin

**[08:32:26.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008982)  
mula 2019 at

**[08:32:28.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008983)  
lalo na sa ilalim ng

**[08:32:29.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008984)  
kasalukuyang administrasyon,

**[08:32:33.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008985)  
starting

**[08:32:34.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008986)  
lalo na 2022,

**[08:32:37.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008987)  
23, 24,

**[08:32:40.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008988)  
hanggang

**[08:32:40.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008989)  
25, 2026

**[08:32:42.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008990)  
even, ay

**[08:32:44.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008991)  
may pinopropose

**[08:32:47.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008992)  
ang

**[08:32:49.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008993)  
Malacanang

**[08:32:50.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008994)  
tatapyasan ng napakalaki

**[08:32:52.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008995)  
ng

**[08:32:54.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008996)  
Kongreso.

**[08:32:56.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008997)  
So ibig sabihin, yung pondo

**[08:32:58.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008998)  
na dapat, ang proposal talaga

**[08:33:00.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008999)  
ng executive, para yan sa sweldo,

**[08:33:02.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009000)  
para yan sa benepisyo,

**[08:33:04.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009001)  
tatapyasan ng napakalaki. At one

**[08:33:06.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009002)  
point, yun po,

**[08:33:08.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009003)  
2024, pinakamalala.

**[08:33:10.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009004)  
No?

**[08:33:14.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009005)  
Parang ilang persyento na lang

**[08:33:16.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009006)  
ang natira dyan?

**[08:33:17.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009007)  
Yan. That is 78%

**[08:33:20.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009008)  
cut in

**[08:33:22.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009009)  
the miscellaneous personnel

**[08:33:24.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009010)  
benefits fund. Tapos ano pong

**[08:33:26.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009011)  
ginagawa ron? Alam naman natin,

**[08:33:28.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009012)  
e, babawasan yan

**[08:33:29.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009013)  
to create fiscal space

**[08:33:31.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009014)  
for the insertions.

**[08:33:34.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009015)  
Yun na po. And

**[08:33:35.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009016)  
2026,

**[08:33:38.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009017)  
yung cut na yan,

**[08:33:40.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009018)  
yan po ang isang kinaltasan para

**[08:33:41.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009019)  
madagdagan yung LGSF.

**[08:33:44.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009020)  
No? So kaya po magkaugnay

**[08:33:46.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009021)  
yung dalawang ito. Ngayon,

**[08:33:48.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009022)  
for 2027,

**[08:33:49.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009023)  
the proposed

**[08:33:50.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009024)  
MPBF, mababa na po

**[08:33:54.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009025)  
ngayon, is

**[08:33:55.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009026)  
55.8 billion.

**[08:33:57.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009027)  
So una po,

**[08:33:58.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009028)  
ang tanong natin,

**[08:33:59.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009029)  
actually, masang tanong po ito sa sponsor.

**[08:34:03.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009030)  
Madam

**[08:34:03.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009031)  
Speaker at

**[08:34:05.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009032)  
Madam Sponsor,

**[08:34:09.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009033)  
mauulit pa ba

**[08:34:09.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009034)  
yung mga nakaraang

**[08:34:12.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009035)  
kalakaran

**[08:34:14.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009036)  
na babawasan ng

**[08:34:16.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009037)  
malaki ng Kongreso

**[08:34:17.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009038)  
yung pondo na dapat ay nakalaan

**[08:34:20.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009039)  
para sa

**[08:34:21.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009040)  
mga sweldo o benepisyo

**[08:34:23.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009041)  
ng mga kawani ng gobyerno?

**[08:34:26.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009042)  
Babawasan pa po ba ito?

**[08:34:28.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009043)  
Madam Speaker,

**[08:34:31.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009044)  
distinguished colleague,

**[08:34:32.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009045)  
on our part,

**[08:34:35.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009046)  
I cannot unilaterally,

**[08:34:37.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009047)  
I cannot assure that

**[08:34:39.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009048)  
myself, kasi po this would have to go through,

**[08:34:41.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009049)  
again, all the amendments would have to go

**[08:34:43.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009050)  
through the Budget Amendments Review Subcommittee,

**[08:34:46.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009051)  
but on a personal

**[08:34:48.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009052)  
note po, given

**[08:34:49.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009053)  
I understand po the

**[08:34:51.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009054)  
advocacy of our distinguished colleague

**[08:34:53.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009055)  
with regard to pera, and that is

**[08:34:55.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009056)  
something that's already embedded into the

**[08:34:57.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009057)  
55 billion as stated in the

**[08:35:00.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009058)  
MBPF for the

**[08:35:02.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009059)  
2027 NEP,

**[08:35:03.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009060)  
as much as possible po, hindi po

**[08:35:06.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009061)  
natin babawasan yung

**[08:35:07.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009062)  
MPBF, and more so, hindi po malaki

**[08:35:10.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009063)  
yung bawas kung kailangan

**[08:35:12.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009064)  
man, kailanganin man pong bawasan.

**[08:35:14.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009065)  
Okay, well,

**[08:35:16.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009066)  
okay, hindi po babawasan o hindi

**[08:35:17.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009067)  
babawasan ng malaki. Nakupo,

**[08:35:19.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009068)  
medyo,

**[08:35:20.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009069)  
hindi tayo totally assured. However,

**[08:35:24.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009070)  
naniniwala ako na

**[08:35:25.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009071)  
ang tindig ng ating

**[08:35:27.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009072)  
chair ay para sa

**[08:35:29.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009073)  
pagpapanatili, at di lang yun, para

**[08:35:31.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009074)  
dagdagan ang

**[08:35:33.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009075)  
benepisyo

**[08:35:36.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009076)  
ng mga kawanin natin ng gobyerno.

**[08:35:38.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009077)  
We're talking about 2 million government employees,

**[08:35:39.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009078)  
kaya last point na po, yung tungkol

**[08:35:42.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009079)  
sa pera, nabanggit nyo yung pera, so balik

**[08:35:43.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009080)  
na lang po natin,

**[08:35:45.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009081)  
yung breakdown ng MPBF,

**[08:35:48.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009082)  
no? So, that 55.8

**[08:35:50.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009083)  
billion ay

**[08:35:51.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009084)  
ganyan po ang

**[08:35:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009085)  
breakdown, no? So, 21.8

**[08:36:00.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009086)  
billion for performance-based

**[08:36:01.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009087)  
incentives. Merong

**[08:36:03.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009088)  
profiling of vacancies for funding

**[08:36:06.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009089)  
requirements for staffing modifications,

**[08:36:08.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009090)  
step increments,

**[08:36:09.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009091)  
and so on. Ang focus na po

**[08:36:11.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009092)  
natin yung sa increase in pera,

**[08:36:14.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009093)  
11.79

**[08:36:15.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009094)  
billion, no? So,

**[08:36:17.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009095)  
two things. Una, ang positive

**[08:36:19.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009096)  
dito, magandang balita,

**[08:36:23.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009097)  
after

**[08:36:23.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009098)  
17 years, ay magkakaroon

**[08:36:25.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009099)  
po, kung hindi na magagalaw to, magkakaroon

**[08:36:27.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009100)  
ng increase sa pera

**[08:36:29.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009101)  
ng 2 million government employees.

**[08:36:32.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009102)  
Personal economic relief allowance,

**[08:36:34.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009103)  
yan yung 2,000 pesos a month

**[08:36:36.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009104)  
na walang bawas

**[08:36:38.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009105)  
yan, no? Walang kaltas, hindi

**[08:36:39.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009106)  
tinataks, na

**[08:36:41.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009107)  
additional compensation or

**[08:36:43.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009108)  
allowance on top

**[08:36:45.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009109)  
of the

**[08:36:46.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009110)  
monthly salary, no?

**[08:36:49.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009111)  
Kaya napakahalaga po yan.

**[08:36:52.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009112)  
Intended talaga para

**[08:36:53.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009113)  
economic relief, no?

**[08:36:55.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009114)  
Yung pagtaas ng presyo ng bilihin,

**[08:36:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009115)  
Yung pagtaas ng presyo ng bilihin, and so on. Kaya lang,

**[08:36:59.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009116)  
2009 pa po yan na-set, yung 2,000

**[08:37:01.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009117)  
pesos per month,

**[08:37:03.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009118)  
2026 magte 2027

**[08:37:06.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009119)  
na po. So, we're talking

**[08:37:07.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009120)  
17 years na hindi

**[08:37:10.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009121)  
nagagalaw ito.

**[08:37:11.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009122)  
So, una, magandang balita, natataas

**[08:37:14.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009123)  
na, merong 11.79

**[08:37:15.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009124)  
billion. Kaya lang, how much will

**[08:37:17.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009125)  
that translate to? Para sa ating mga

**[08:37:19.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009126)  
kawani, additional

**[08:37:21.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009127)  
500 pesos a month.

**[08:37:24.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009128)  
No? Na,

**[08:37:26.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009129)  
nung ni-share ko ang balitang

**[08:37:27.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009130)  
ito sa mga government

**[08:37:29.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009131)  
employees, medyo disappointed.

**[08:37:32.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009132)  
Medyo, hindi lang medyo,

**[08:37:33.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009133)  
very disappointed na after 17

**[08:37:35.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009134)  
years, ay 500 pesos

**[08:37:37.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009135)  
lang ang idadagdag.

**[08:37:39.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009136)  
So, ang panawagan po for

**[08:37:41.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009137)  
consideration of this

**[08:37:43.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009138)  
body, the Committee on Appropriations, the

**[08:37:45.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009139)  
Chair, and of course, DBM,

**[08:37:47.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009140)  
ay

**[08:37:48.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009141)  
nasa

**[08:37:51.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009142)  
unique

**[08:37:53.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009143)  
position

**[08:37:54.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009144)  
ang Malacanang,

**[08:37:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009145)  
at si Pangulong

**[08:37:59.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009146)  
Marcos Jr., na

**[08:38:01.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009147)  
finally, wastuhin

**[08:38:03.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009148)  
ang matagal ng

**[08:38:05.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009149)  
pagpapabaya

**[08:38:07.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009150)  
sa pera ng dalawang

**[08:38:09.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009151)  
milyong government

**[08:38:11.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009152)  
employees.

**[08:38:13.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009153)  
At ngayon, makakaasa

**[08:38:15.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009154)  
na, natataasan.

**[08:38:17.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009155)  
500 pesos.

**[08:38:19.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009156)  
Pero, kapos pa po ito.

**[08:38:22.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009157)  
Kaya po, para maging

**[08:38:23.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009158)  
tunay na

**[08:38:25.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009159)  
memorable,

**[08:38:26.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009160)  
at maitala

**[08:38:27.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009161)  
sa kasaysayan,

**[08:38:29.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009162)  
ay dapat po, taasan pa

**[08:38:32.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009163)  
ang 500 pesos

**[08:38:34.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009164)  
a month na

**[08:38:35.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009165)  
personal economic relief allowance.

**[08:38:38.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009166)  
Kaya,

**[08:38:39.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009167)  
masusuportahan ba

**[08:38:42.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009168)  
ng

**[08:38:43.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009169)  
Kongreso at ng DBM

**[08:38:45.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009170)  
ang, sa minimum,

**[08:38:48.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009171)  
pagdoble o higit pa

**[08:38:49.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009172)  
ng nakalaang pondo

**[08:38:51.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009173)  
para sa pera. Para,

**[08:38:53.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009174)  
at least, substantial

**[08:38:55.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009175)  
at mararamdaman talaga,

**[08:38:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009176)  
ang increase

**[08:38:59.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009177)  
na ito, lalo pa sa panahon

**[08:39:01.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009178)  
ng tumitinding

**[08:39:03.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009179)  
krisis at inflation. Yun po.

**[08:39:06.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009180)  
Madam Speaker,

**[08:39:08.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009181)  
Distinguished Colleague,

**[08:39:09.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009182)  
on the part

**[08:39:12.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009183)  
of what will be

**[08:39:13.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009184)  
affected in the HGAB,

**[08:39:16.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009185)  
again po, that would

**[08:39:17.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009186)  
have to go through the deliberation of the Budget Amendment

**[08:39:19.740] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009187)  
Review Subcommittee, pero alam naman po

**[08:39:21.940] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009188)  
nating Distinguished Colleague, yung personal

**[08:39:24.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009189)  
stand ko on the matter,

**[08:39:25.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009190)  
talaga pong, I'm very,

**[08:39:27.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009191)  
very, very much supportive of

**[08:39:29.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009192)  
increase, of the increase in

**[08:39:31.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009193)  
pera. Alam nyo po yun,

**[08:39:34.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009194)  
Cong. Tony, we've met

**[08:39:35.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009195)  
several times with different

**[08:39:37.820] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009196)  
labor groups with regard to this

**[08:39:39.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009197)  
matter, and ano po, alam nyo po,

**[08:39:41.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009198)  
kasama nyo po ako, katuwang nyo po ako

**[08:39:43.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009199)  
sa pakikipaglaban para po

**[08:39:45.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009200)  
sa pagtaas ng pera.

**[08:39:48.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009201)  
Well, Madam

**[08:39:49.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009202)  
Speaker, hanggang doon na

**[08:39:51.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009203)  
lamang po, no? Hindi ko na

**[08:39:53.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009204)  
napakita kanina, bilang pangwakas,

**[08:39:56.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009205)  
babalik lang ako sa LG,

**[08:39:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009206)  
LGSF at FALGU,

**[08:39:59.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009207)  
yung napakababang accomplishment rate

**[08:40:01.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009208)  
ng

**[08:40:03.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009209)  
ah, ah,

**[08:40:05.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009210)  
ng ah,

**[08:40:07.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009211)  
LGSF. Pero tatapusin ko na.

**[08:40:10.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009212)  
So, it's, ayun,

**[08:40:12.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009213)  
okay, disbursement rate, I meant.

**[08:40:14.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009214)  
Ito galing sa DILG.

**[08:40:17.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009215)  
No?

**[08:40:18.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009216)  
Fund utilization rate

**[08:40:20.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009217)  
as low as 7%,

**[08:40:21.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009218)  
no? For,

**[08:40:23.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009219)  
especially for the FALGU,

**[08:40:25.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009220)  
this is for 20,

**[08:40:27.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009221)  
20, 25,

**[08:40:29.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009222)  
and, 20, 25 yun, and then

**[08:40:31.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009223)  
20, 26. So, napakababang

**[08:40:33.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009224)  
accomplishment rate po. So,

**[08:40:35.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009225)  
ang point ko,

**[08:40:37.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009226)  
napakas, wag tayo magdouble standard

**[08:40:39.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009227)  
sa ibang mga hensya, pag ganyang kababa

**[08:40:41.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009228)  
ang accomplishment rate, binabawasan,

**[08:40:43.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009229)  
hindi dinadagdagan ang pondo.

**[08:40:46.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009230)  
So, kaya po, naghahanap tayo

**[08:40:47.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009231)  
kung saan kukuha ng pondo para

**[08:40:49.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009232)  
sa pera, eto na pong isa.

**[08:40:51.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009233)  
No? Bawasan natin ang FALGU,

**[08:40:54.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009234)  
anyway, napakababa naman ang kanilang

**[08:40:55.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009235)  
utilization rate para maidagdag.

**[08:40:57.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009236)  
sa

**[08:40:59.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009237)  
pera ng mga kawani.

**[08:41:02.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009238)  
Hanggang doon na lamang po,

**[08:41:04.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009239)  
Madam Speaker, maraming salamat.

**[08:41:06.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009240)  
At inaasahan po natin

**[08:41:07.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009241)  
ang suporta ng

**[08:41:09.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009242)  
Chair ng Committee on Appropriations

**[08:41:11.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009243)  
at ng DBM sa pagtaas ng pera

**[08:41:13.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009244)  
ng mga kawani ng gobyerno. Maraming salamat po.

**[08:41:16.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009245)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[08:41:18.100] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009246)  
Thank you very much, Madam Speaker.

**[08:41:19.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009247)  
Thank you very much to the Honorable

**[08:41:20.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-009248)  
Tinio.

**[08:41:24.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009249)  
Madam Speaker, there being no other

**[08:41:25.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009250)  
member of the minority who wishes

**[08:41:27.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009251)  
to interpellate,

**[08:41:30.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009252)  
I move

**[08:41:31.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009253)  
to terminate the period of

**[08:41:33.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009254)  
interpellation and debate on lump sum funds.

**[08:41:36.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-009255)  
I so move, Madam Speaker.

**[08:41:37.280] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009256)  
What does the House say?

**[08:41:38.880] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009257)  
Madam Speaker, on the part of the majority,

**[08:41:41.680] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009258)  
we join the minority in the motion

**[08:41:43.520] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009259)  
to terminate the interpellations

**[08:41:45.160] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009260)  
on the proposed budget of the lump sum funds.

**[08:41:48.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009261)  
There is a joint

**[08:41:49.900] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009262)  
motion to terminate interpellations

**[08:41:51.580] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009263)  
of the proposed budget of the

**[08:41:53.720] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009264)  
lump sum funds. Is there any objection?

**[08:41:56.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009265)  
The Chair hears none.

**[08:41:57.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009266)  
Interpellations of the proposed budget of the lump sum funds

**[08:41:59.940] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009267)  
is hereby terminated.

**[08:42:02.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009268)  
Majority Leader.

**[08:42:04.240] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009269)  
Madam Speaker, I move to recognize

**[08:42:06.280] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009270)  
the Minority Leader,

**[08:42:07.640] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009271)  
the Honorable Marcelino C. Libanan

**[08:42:10.380] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009272)  
of 4Ps Party List

**[08:42:12.180] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009273)  
for his turno

**[08:42:13.380] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-009274)  
contra.

**[08:42:14.960] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009275)  
The Minority Leader is recognized to deliver

**[08:42:17.440] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009276)  
his speech in contra.

**[08:42:21.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009277)  
Thank you, Madam Speaker.

**[08:42:25.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009278)  
Madam Speaker,

**[08:42:27.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009279)  
distinguished colleagues,

**[08:42:30.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009280)  
for roughly

**[08:42:31.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009281)  
two weeks,

**[08:42:33.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009282)  
this House deliberated on perhaps

**[08:42:35.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009283)  
the most important legislation

**[08:42:37.100] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009284)  
we pass each year,

**[08:42:39.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009285)  
the National Budget.

**[08:42:41.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009286)  
The sessions were long.

**[08:42:43.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009287)  
On several occasions, we worked

**[08:42:45.420] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009288)  
into the early hours of the morning.

**[08:42:48.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009289)  
The minority

**[08:42:49.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009290)  
asked difficult questions

**[08:42:51.540] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009291)  
as we are expected

**[08:42:53.440] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009292)  
to do. But the debate

**[08:42:55.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009293)  
remained productive.

**[08:42:57.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009294)  
Before I proceed, I would like

**[08:42:59.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009295)  
to thank the Speaker,

**[08:43:01.840] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009296)  
Honorable Faustino

**[08:43:03.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009297)  
Bojie Dy III,

**[08:43:05.620] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009298)  
the Majority Leader, Honorable

**[08:43:07.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009299)  
Sandro Marcos,

**[08:43:09.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009300)  
the Committee on Appropriations,

**[08:43:11.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009301)  
the Budget Sponsors,

**[08:43:13.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009302)  
and our colleagues from the Majority

**[08:43:15.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009303)  
for allowing a serious

**[08:43:17.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009304)  
examination of this measure.

**[08:43:20.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009305)  
We may disagree

**[08:43:21.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009306)  
on some priorities,

**[08:43:22.420] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009307)  
but this is how

**[08:43:24.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009308)  
Congress should work.

**[08:43:26.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009309)  
I also thank

**[08:43:27.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009310)  
my colleagues in the Minority

**[08:43:28.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009311)  
for the past two weeks.

**[08:43:32.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009312)  
They stayed on the floor,

**[08:43:34.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009313)  
studied the Budget,

**[08:43:35.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009314)  
and asked the difficult

**[08:43:37.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009315)  
and probing questions that needed

**[08:43:39.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009316)  
to be asked.

**[08:43:42.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009317)  
Our colleagues

**[08:43:43.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009318)  
in the Majority,

**[08:43:45.620] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009319)  
we ask for your continued

**[08:43:47.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009320)  
understanding when those

**[08:43:49.660] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009321)  
questions are uncomfortable.

**[08:43:52.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009322)  
That is not

**[08:43:53.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009323)  
obstruction. That is part

**[08:43:55.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009324)  
of our duty.

**[08:43:57.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009325)  
The Minority is here

**[08:43:58.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009326)  
to fiscalize,

**[08:44:00.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009327)  
to scrutinize expenditures,

**[08:44:04.120] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009328)  
test assumptions,

**[08:44:06.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009329)  
demand accountability,

**[08:44:08.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009330)  
and point out matters

**[08:44:10.340] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009331)  
that might otherwise

**[08:44:12.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009332)  
escape attention.

**[08:44:14.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009333)  
Majority and Minority

**[08:44:16.440] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009334)  
may disagree on particular

**[08:44:18.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009335)  
items, but

**[08:44:20.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009336)  
ultimately, we share

**[08:44:22.660] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009337)  
the same responsibility

**[08:44:24.180] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009338)  
to make sure

**[08:44:25.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009339)  
that the people's

**[08:44:27.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009340)  
money is spent properly.

**[08:44:29.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009341)  
And this deliberation showed

**[08:44:33.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009342)  
that fiscalization

**[08:44:34.200] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009343)  
can be productive.

**[08:44:36.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009344)  
Our questioning did not

**[08:44:38.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009345)  
merely identify concerns.

**[08:44:40.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009346)  
In several instances,

**[08:44:43.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009347)  
it elicited commitments,

**[08:44:45.500] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009348)  
crafted government policy,

**[08:44:47.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009349)  
and established timelines

**[08:44:49.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009350)  
against which Congress

**[08:44:50.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009351)  
can later hold agencies

**[08:44:53.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009352)  
accountable.

**[08:44:55.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009353)  
There is an old saying,

**[08:44:57.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009354)  
Mr. Speaker,

**[08:44:59.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009355)  
Show me

**[08:45:00.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009356)  
your budget,

**[08:45:01.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009370)  
and I will show you your priorities. The proposed budget is 7.2 trillion pesos. But the 7.2 trillion pesos headline does not tell the whole story.

**[08:45:16.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009371)  
Government expects approximately 5.2 trillion in revenues in 2027. Interest payments alone will reach approximately 1.114 trillion. Principal amortization is about 1.59 trillion.

**[08:45:39.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009372)  
Perhaps payments are financing transactions and are, strictly speaking,

**[08:45:46.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009373)  
not part of the 7.2 trillion expenditure program, but they remain actual obligations of the Treasury.

**[08:45:56.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009374)  
Taken together, that service reaches approximately 2.7 trillion, equivalent to almost 52 for every 100 pesos of projected government revenue.

**[08:46:13.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009375)  
52 pesos.

**[08:46:16.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009376)  
Then, government must provide for the national tax allotment, salaries, pensions, statutory contributions, and other mandatory expenditures.

**[08:46:30.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009377)  
So while we speak of a 7.2 trillion budget, the amount over which government actually has room to make choices is much smaller.

**[08:46:44.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009378)  
The amount of 2.6 trillion.

**[08:46:46.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009379)  
About 36 percent of the 7.2 trillion budget.

**[08:46:53.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009380)  
Kung ganoon, pagkatapos bayaran ang utang at ang mga obligasyon, hindi na maaring pagpaliban, mas maliit ang perang tunay nating mapapagpasyahan.

**[08:47:09.200] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009381)  
That is fiscal reality behind this budget.

**[08:47:12.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009382)  
This budget will also operate in a difficult economic environment.

**[08:47:20.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009383)  
GDP grew by only 2.3 percent in the second quarter of 2026, after growth of 2.8 percent in the first quarter.

**[08:47:32.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009384)  
Industry contracted by 2.4 percent, while gross capital formation fell by 9.2%.

**[08:47:42.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009385)  
At the same time, inflation remained high at 6.1 percent in August.

**[08:47:52.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009386)  
For the bottom 30 percent of Filipino households, inflation was even higher at 8.2 percent.

**[08:48:03.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009387)  
These numbers matter because slower growth limits income and employment opportunities.

**[08:48:12.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009388)  
While

**[08:48:13.100] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009399)  
Inflation reduces what those incomes can buy.

**[08:48:18.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009400)  
Para sa ordinaryong pamilya, simply lang ang ibig sabihin nito, mas mabagal na paglago ng kita, pero mas mabilis ang pagtaas ng presyo ng mga bilihin at serbisyo.

**[08:48:35.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009401)  
This is why the quality of government spending matters as much as its size.

**[08:48:42.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009402)  
The minority recognizes the need for fiscal consolidation. Under the government's medium-term framework, the deficit is expected to decline from approximately 5.4% of GDP in 2026 to 3.5% by 2030.

**[08:49:07.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009403)  
But the revenues remain broadly around 15-16% of GDP, while disbursements decline from approximately 21.2% to 19.1%.

**[08:49:26.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009404)  
Much of the adjustments, therefore, comes from expenditure restraint.

**[08:49:31.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009405)  
There is nothing wrong with spending discipline.

**[08:49:36.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009406)  
Government shall eliminate waste, duplication, and projects that cannot be implemented.

**[08:49:46.400] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009407)  
But restraint should protect essential investments in people and productive capacity.

**[08:49:54.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009408)  
Education illustrates the pressure on our fiscal space.

**[08:49:58.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009409)  
The proposed DepEd budget is approximately P976 billion.

**[08:50:06.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009410)  
While interest payments alone are approximately P1.114 trillion.

**[08:50:14.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009411)  
We therefore spend about P138 billion more on interest than on the entire Department of Education.

**[08:50:25.100] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009412)  
Education sector spending is approximately 3.99% of GDP,

**[08:50:33.180] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009413)  
compared with roughly...

**[08:50:36.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009414)  
4.36% under the fiscal year of 2026 GAA.

**[08:50:42.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009415)  
The classroom shortage remains substantial.

**[08:50:49.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009416)  
Social protection deserves attention.

**[08:50:53.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009417)  
The 4Ps allocation moves from approximately P113 billion to P99.08 billion.

**[08:51:04.840] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009418)  
AICS...

**[08:51:06.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009419)  
...from approximately P63.9 billion to P33.29 billion.

**[08:51:12.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009420)  
And the supplementary feeding program for approximately P9.56 billion to P6.36 billion.

**[08:51:23.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009421)  
There may be a valid program and targeting reasons for these adjustments.

**[08:51:30.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009422)  
But with inflation among our poorest households,

**[08:51:33.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009423)  
at 82.2%,

**[08:51:37.140] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009424)  
these reductions deserve careful monitoring.

**[08:51:42.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009425)  
Kapag limitado ang pera,

**[08:51:45.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009426)  
dapat unang protektahan ang mga programang

**[08:51:50.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009427)  
may pinakamalaking epekto

**[08:51:52.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009428)  
sa mga pamilyang

**[08:51:54.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009429)  
pinakamaliliit ang kakayahang

**[08:51:57.180] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009430)  
harapin ang pagtaas ng presyo.

**[08:52:00.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009431)  
Our colleagues in the minority

**[08:52:03.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009432)  
also placed several important concerns

**[08:52:05.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009433)  
on record during these deliberations.

**[08:52:11.140] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009434)  
Representative Chel Diokno

**[08:52:13.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009435)  
of Akbayan Partylist

**[08:52:15.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009436)  
brought us back to

**[08:52:18.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009437)  
perhaps the most important

**[08:52:19.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009438)  
long-term investment in this budget,

**[08:52:21.860] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009439)  
our people.

**[08:52:23.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009440)  
He pointed out that

**[08:52:26.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009441)  
while the national budget

**[08:52:27.940] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009442)  
grows by about 6%,

**[08:52:29.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009443)  
proposed allocations

**[08:52:31.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009444)  
for key institutions

**[08:52:32.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009449)  
in education and health,

**[08:52:34.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009450)  
including DepEd,

**[08:52:37.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009451)  
SUCs,

**[08:52:39.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009452)  
CHED,

**[08:52:40.100] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009453)  
TESDA, DOH, and PhilHealth

**[08:52:43.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009454)  
are moving

**[08:52:45.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009455)  
in the opposite direction.

**[08:52:47.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009456)  
He cited international

**[08:52:49.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009457)  
benchmarks on education,

**[08:52:52.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009458)  
health, and

**[08:52:53.140] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009459)  
social protection.

**[08:52:55.040] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009460)  
His message is one which

**[08:52:57.040] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009461)  
we should take seriously.

**[08:53:00.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009462)  
Fiscal consolidation

**[08:53:01.540] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009463)  
should not

**[08:53:03.180] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009464)  
come at the expense of human

**[08:53:04.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009465)  
capital.

**[08:53:06.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009466)  
Representative Renee Co

**[08:53:09.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009467)  
of Kabataan

**[08:53:11.440] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009468)  
Partylist

**[08:53:12.140] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009469)  
raised the continuing

**[08:53:14.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009470)  
challenge of adequately funding

**[08:53:17.100] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009471)  
our state universities and colleges

**[08:53:18.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009472)  
and making free higher

**[08:53:21.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009473)  
education genuinely free.

**[08:53:23.880] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009474)  
She noted that

**[08:53:24.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009475)  
49 of our country's 113

**[08:53:27.400] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009476)  
SUCs

**[08:53:28.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009477)  
face proposed budget decreases

**[08:53:31.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009478)  
totaling about

**[08:53:33.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009479)  
7.68 billion

**[08:53:36.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009480)  
and called attention

**[08:53:38.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009481)  
to approximately

**[08:53:39.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009482)  
4.97 billion in free higher

**[08:53:42.040] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009483)  
education deficiencies

**[08:53:43.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009484)  
for fiscal year

**[08:53:45.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009485)  
2025-2026

**[08:53:47.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009486)  
and a projected

**[08:53:49.500] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009487)  
2.77 billion gap

**[08:53:52.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009488)  
for fiscal year

**[08:53:53.660] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009489)  
2027

**[08:53:54.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009490)  
based on the Philippine Association

**[08:53:57.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009491)  
of State Universities

**[08:53:59.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009492)  
and Colleges

**[08:54:01.440] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009493)  
figures.

**[08:54:03.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009494)  
Free higher education

**[08:54:04.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009495)  
cannot be free

**[08:54:05.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009496)  
when only a few

**[08:54:07.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009497)  
cannot be free

**[08:54:09.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009498)  
only in law.

**[08:54:11.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009499)  
It must be adequately

**[08:54:13.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009500)  
funded in practice.

**[08:54:17.120] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009501)  
Representative

**[08:54:17.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009502)  
Antonio Tinio of

**[08:54:20.040] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009503)  
ACT Teachers Partylist

**[08:54:21.840] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009504)  
raised the situation

**[08:54:24.180] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009505)  
for government workers.

**[08:54:26.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009506)  
Personal economic relief

**[08:54:28.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009507)  
allowance has remained

**[08:54:29.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009508)  
at 2,000 pesos per month

**[08:54:32.200] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009509)  
since 2009.

**[08:54:33.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009510)  
While the proposed budget

**[08:54:35.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009511)  
finally provides

**[08:54:37.180] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009512)  
for a 500-monthly increase,

**[08:54:40.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009513)  
he called for

**[08:54:41.340] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009514)  
an 11.79 billion

**[08:54:44.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009515)  
allocation

**[08:54:45.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009516)  
to be doubled

**[08:54:47.140] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009517)  
to provide more meaningful relief

**[08:54:49.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009518)  
to around 2 million

**[08:54:51.860] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009519)  
government employees.

**[08:54:55.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009520)  
Representative

**[08:54:55.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009521)  
Elijah San Fernando

**[08:54:57.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009522)  
of Kamangagawa Partylist

**[08:54:59.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009523)  
raised the absence

**[08:55:01.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009524)  
of a clear and coherent wage

**[08:55:03.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009525)  
policy.

**[08:55:04.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009526)  
He noted that House Bill

**[08:55:06.340] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009527)  
8081, the proposed

**[08:55:08.440] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009528)  
National Minimum Wage Act

**[08:55:10.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009529)  
which seeks to establish

**[08:55:12.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009530)  
a national minimum wage system

**[08:55:14.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009531)  
has remained pending

**[08:55:16.840] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009532)  
after being reported

**[08:55:19.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009533)  
out of the Committee on Labor and Employment.

**[08:55:22.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009534)  
He likewise

**[08:55:22.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009535)  
raised the unresolved

**[08:55:24.660] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009536)  
implementation of wage order number

**[08:55:26.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009537)  
wage order NCR

**[08:55:28.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009538)  
27

**[08:55:29.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009539)  
affecting more than 1.1

**[08:55:33.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009540)  
million minimum wage workers

**[08:55:35.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009541)  
and an 85 pesos wage increase.

**[08:55:40.840] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009542)  
His point is particularly

**[08:55:42.540] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009543)  
relevant when inflation

**[08:55:44.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009544)  
is already eroding

**[08:55:46.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009545)  
household incomes.

**[08:55:48.440] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009546)  
The budget should not only fund

**[08:55:50.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009547)  
employment and labor programs.

**[08:55:53.340] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009548)  
Government must also

**[08:55:54.620] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009549)  
ensure that wages

**[08:55:56.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009550)  
already granted are enforced

**[08:55:58.800] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009551)  
and that workers

**[08:56:00.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009552)  
have a clear policy for improving

**[08:56:03.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009553)  
their incomes.

**[08:56:05.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009554)  
Representative Iris Montes

**[08:56:07.420] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009555)  
of the 4K Partylist

**[08:56:08.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009556)  
raised the continuing concern

**[08:56:11.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009557)  
of government's obligations to

**[08:56:12.940] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009558)  
PhilHealth and called

**[08:56:14.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009559)  
for a full

**[08:56:16.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009560)  
244 billion proposed

**[08:56:19.100] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009561)  
allocation for

**[08:56:20.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009562)  
2027

**[08:56:22.100] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009563)  
emphasizing

**[08:56:23.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009564)  
that government must also honor

**[08:56:26.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009565)  
funding obligations

**[08:56:28.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009566)  
imposed by law.

**[08:56:31.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009567)  
Representative

**[08:56:32.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009568)  
Dada Ismula of [unclear]

**[08:56:34.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009569)  
Partylist

**[08:56:34.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009570)  
brought the

**[08:56:36.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009571)  
fill health funding issue down

**[08:56:38.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009572)  
to what it actually means

**[08:56:41.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009573)  
for a Filipino

**[08:56:42.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009574)  
family facing

**[08:56:44.880] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009575)  
serious illness.

**[08:56:46.880] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009576)  
She pointed out that while

**[08:56:48.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009577)  
fill health proposed around 300

**[08:56:50.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009578)  
billion, the fiscal

**[08:56:52.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009579)  
year 2027

**[08:56:54.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009580)  
provides only

**[08:56:56.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009581)  
about

**[08:56:57.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009582)  
74 billion.

**[08:57:00.860] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009583)  
More troubling, she

**[08:57:02.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009584)  
cited

**[08:57:04.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009585)  
fill health's own assessment

**[08:57:06.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009586)  
that for a catastrophic

**[08:57:08.620] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009587)  
illnesses,

**[08:57:10.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009588)  
out-of-pocket expenses

**[08:57:12.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009589)  
can still reach around

**[08:57:14.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009590)  
58%.

**[08:57:16.420] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009591)  
She also called for

**[08:57:18.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009592)  
increased funding for the

**[08:57:20.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009593)  
Marawi Compensation Board

**[08:57:22.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009594)  
which needs about

**[08:57:24.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009595)  
7 billion to complete

**[08:57:26.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009596)  
compensation payments

**[08:57:27.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009597)  
but is provided only 1 billion

**[08:57:30.800] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009598)  
for 2027.

**[08:57:32.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009599)  
Especially with the

**[08:57:34.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009600)  
board's mandate ending

**[08:57:36.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009601)  
in 2028.

**[08:57:38.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009602)  
Representative Jet Nisay

**[08:57:40.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009603)  
of Pusong Pinoy Partylist

**[08:57:42.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009604)  
emphasized that

**[08:57:44.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009605)  
government should invest

**[08:57:46.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009606)  
not only in treating illness

**[08:57:48.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009607)  
but also

**[08:57:50.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009608)  
in preventing it.

**[08:57:52.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009609)  
He called for the full

**[08:57:54.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009610)  
retention of proposed

**[08:57:56.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009611)  
2.535 billion

**[08:57:58.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009612)  
for DOH health

**[08:58:00.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009613)  
promotion and additional

**[08:58:02.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009614)  
support for grassroots and

**[08:58:04.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009615)  
community-based sports.

**[08:58:06.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009616)  
Preventive health and

**[08:58:08.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009617)  
grassroots sports are

**[08:58:10.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009618)  
investments that

**[08:58:12.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009619)  
can keep our people healthier

**[08:58:14.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009620)  
before illness becomes

**[08:58:16.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009621)  
more serious and

**[08:58:18.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009622)  
more expensive.

**[08:58:20.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009623)  
Representative Sarah

**[08:58:22.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009624)  
Elago of Gabriela

**[08:58:24.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009625)  
Women's

**[08:58:26.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009626)  
Partylist emphasized

**[08:58:28.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009627)  
the stronger

**[08:58:30.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009628)  
support for children.

**[08:58:32.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009629)  
Adolescent mothers,

**[08:58:34.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009630)  
solo parents,

**[08:58:36.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009631)  
farmers and fisherfolk,

**[08:58:38.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009632)  
and families caring

**[08:58:40.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009633)  
for children with disabilities.

**[08:58:42.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009634)  
She highlighted

**[08:58:44.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009635)  
funding for

**[08:58:46.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009636)  
Project Safe,

**[08:58:48.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009637)  
Project Arroga,

**[08:58:50.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009638)  
and Protect Team,

**[08:58:52.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009639)  
and pushed for additional

**[08:58:54.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009640)  
support for early childhood

**[08:58:56.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009641)  
care and development,

**[08:58:58.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009642)  
production

**[08:59:00.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009643)  
subsidies for farmers

**[08:59:02.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009644)  
and fisherfolk,

**[08:59:04.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009645)  
and monthly cash assistance

**[08:59:06.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009646)  
for solo parents.

**[08:59:08.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009647)  
Representative Robert

**[08:59:10.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009648)  
Nazal of Bagong

**[08:59:12.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009649)  
Henerasyon Partylist,

**[08:59:14.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009650)  
called for a proper

**[08:59:16.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009651)  
implementation of the

**[08:59:18.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009652)  
Higher Education Development

**[08:59:20.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009653)  
Fund, adequate funding

**[08:59:22.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009654)  
for PhilHealth and

**[08:59:24.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009655)  
restoration of the

**[08:59:26.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009656)  
3Ps program

**[08:59:28.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009657)  
to 1.5 billion

**[08:59:30.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009658)  
to provide affordable

**[08:59:32.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009659)  
capital to entrepreneurs.

**[08:59:34.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009660)  
His point is simple.

**[08:59:36.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009661)  
Public funds

**[08:59:38.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009662)  
should translate into education,

**[08:59:40.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009663)  
accessible healthcare,

**[08:59:42.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009664)  
and opportunities for

**[08:59:44.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009665)  
people to earn

**[08:59:46.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009666)  
a sustainable livelihood.

**[08:59:48.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009667)  
Representative

**[08:59:50.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009668)  
Percy Cenda?a

**[08:59:52.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009669)  
of Agbayan Partylist

**[08:59:54.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009670)  
called attention to the proposed

**[08:59:56.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009671)  
zero funding for the EDSA

**[08:59:58.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009672)  
Carousel Service

**[08:59:59.540] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009673)  
contracting, and fuel subsidy programs which directly affect commuters and PUV drivers and operators.

**[09:00:10.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009674)  
He likewise joined the call for the remittance of earmarked revenues intended for universal healthcare

**[09:00:17.420] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009675)  
and adequate funding for field health.

**[09:00:21.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009676)  
Representative J.C. Abalos of 4Ps Partylist raised the implementation concerns

**[09:00:29.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009677)  
regarding the community-based monitoring system.

**[09:00:32.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009678)  
The proposed CBMS budget is about 5.062 billion, yet 4.92 billion, or 97%, is lodged in the Central Office,

**[09:00:47.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009679)  
while 16 regions and BARMM share only 130 million.

**[09:00:53.500] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009680)  
More importantly, 59,462 families.

**[09:00:59.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009681)  
In the 4Ps set, 12 waitlists remain unmatched with CBMS data, some since 2023.

**[09:01:11.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009682)  
Representative Audrey Zubiri of the 3rd District of Bukidnon raised the continued funding shortfall

**[09:01:20.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009683)  
under the Sugarcane Industry Development Act.

**[09:01:23.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009684)  
The law provides for an aggregate of 2 billion annually.

**[09:01:29.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009685)  
Yet, approximately 1.020 billion was appropriated in the 2026 GA.

**[09:01:40.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009686)  
Her concern raises a broader principle.

**[09:01:42.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009687)  
When Congress creates a program and provides a statutory funding mandate,

**[09:01:50.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009688)  
annual budgets should give meaningful effect to that commitment.

**[09:01:56.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009689)  
Representative Presley De Jesus,

**[09:01:59.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009690)  
of PHILRECA Partylist,

**[09:02:02.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009691)  
called for stronger support for total missionary electrification,

**[09:02:07.420] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009692)  
total and missionary electrification,

**[09:02:10.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009693)  
noting that proposed budgetary support for NEA

**[09:02:13.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009694)  
declines from 10.134 billion in 2026

**[09:02:22.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009695)  
to 6.486 billion in 2027.

**[09:02:29.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009696)  
While many electric cooperatives still need to expand service

**[09:02:35.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009697)  
and rehabilitate aging distribution systems.

**[09:02:41.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009698)  
He likewise raised the adequacy of the 2.001 billion allocation

**[09:02:49.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009699)  
for missionary electrification,

**[09:02:51.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009700)  
particularly as higher fuel costs affect national power corporation,

**[09:02:57.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009701)  
Small Power Utilities Group

**[09:02:59.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009702)  
operations in off-grid communities.

**[09:03:03.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009703)  
He also emphasized the need to strengthen ERC's regulatory capacity

**[09:03:09.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009704)  
so that government addresses not only price spikes for temporary interventions,

**[09:03:15.860] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009705)  
but their underlying causes, supply shortages, inadequate reserves,

**[09:03:22.900] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009706)  
generation outages, and transmission congestion.

**[09:03:27.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009707)  
The concern,

**[09:03:29.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009708)  
the over-reliability and affordability was reinforced

**[09:03:34.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009709)  
by Representative Sergio Dagooc of APEC Partylist,

**[09:03:39.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009710)  
who focused particularly on the continuing energy problems in the Visayas.

**[09:03:45.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009711)  
He emphasized that generation shortages,

**[09:03:50.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009712)  
inadequate reserves and ancillary services,

**[09:03:53.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009713)  
transmission congestion,

**[09:03:56.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009714)  
and line rental charges

**[09:03:57.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009715)  
must be addressed

**[09:03:59.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009716)  
as one systemic problem.

**[09:04:02.880] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009717)  
He likewise called for the rehabilitation of the Agus Pulangi hydro power complex

**[09:04:10.500] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009718)  
while retaining government ownership and control,

**[09:04:14.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009719)  
and a reassessment of a limited strategic role

**[09:04:18.620] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009720)  
for NPC in emergency reserves and ancillary services,

**[09:04:24.040] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009721)  
and consideration of a temporary,

**[09:04:29.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009722)  
rule-based VAT shock absorber during extraordinary electricity and fuel price increases.

**[09:04:37.880] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009723)  
His concern reminds us that energy policy is also economic policy.

**[09:04:46.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009724)  
High power and fuel costs eventually find their way into transportation, food, production, and inflation.

**[09:04:56.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009725)  
Representative Bong Suntay of the 4th District of Quezon City emphasized

**[09:05:03.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009726)  
that major appropriations must produce measurable results.

**[09:05:08.740] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009727)  
He pointed to the P191.285 billion proposed

**[09:05:15.040] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009728)  
for the Metro Manila Subway and North-South Commuter Railway,

**[09:05:20.500] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009729)  
stressing that rail spending must ultimately be measured

**[09:05:25.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009730)  
by working trains and improved mobility.

**[09:05:29.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009731)  
He likewise called for health spending

**[09:05:31.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009732)  
to reduce the still substantial out-of-pocket burden

**[09:05:35.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009733)  
on Filipino families

**[09:05:38.420] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009734)  
and for government to maintain a credible fiscal plan

**[09:05:42.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009735)  
should revenues or economic growth fall below assumptions.

**[09:05:49.540] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009736)  
These concerns differ in subject,

**[09:05:53.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009737)  
but they reflect the same question before us:

**[09:05:55.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009738)  
With limited resources, where can government spending make the greatest difference?

**[09:06:05.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009739)  
That question applies equally to our investments in infrastructure.

**[09:06:12.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009740)  
Mr. Speaker, even with limited fiscal space,

**[09:06:18.500] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009741)  
we should protect infrastructure that can expand the economy

**[09:06:23.200] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009742)  
and improve national connectivity.

**[09:06:25.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009743)  
Our interpellation yesterday on the DPWH budget

**[09:06:32.340] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009744)  
produced concrete commitments on the Sorsogon-Samar Link Bridge.

**[09:06:39.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009745)  
We were informed that the government's 130 million

**[09:06:43.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009746)  
for the feasibility study will be complemented

**[09:06:48.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009747)  
by approximately 500 million from ADB,

**[09:06:51.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009748)  
completing the estimated 650 million funding requirement.

**[09:06:57.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009756)  
Bidding is expected to begin this November

**[09:07:00.060] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009757)  
with the study taking about one year.

**[09:07:07.320] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009758)  
Detailed engineering is targeted for 2028

**[09:07:10.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009759)  
followed by civil works bidding in 2028 or early 2029.

**[09:07:15.620] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009760)  
If the project proves feasible

**[09:07:18.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009761)  
and the timetable is followed,

**[09:07:21.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009762)  
completion could be around 2025

**[09:07:24.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009763)  
or 2036.

**[09:07:26.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009764)  
This is significant because

**[09:07:29.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009765)  
Secretary Vince Dixon cited an estimated

**[09:07:31.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009766)  
42% economic rate of return

**[09:07:35.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009767)  
for the project and inform us

**[09:07:37.840] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009768)  
of a strong interest

**[09:07:39.200] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009769)  
from development partners and investors.

**[09:07:55.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009770)  
This also should be a challenge to NEDA,

**[09:07:59.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009771)  
DEPDev and DEPDev.

**[09:08:03.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009772)  
ADB and higher development partners appear willing

**[09:08:08.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009773)  
to support the mega projects

**[09:08:11.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009774)  
when the economic case is strong.

**[09:08:13.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009775)  
Let us identify other major infrastructure projects

**[09:08:18.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009776)  
with high economic rates of return,

**[09:08:21.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009777)  
subject them to rigorous feasibility studies,

**[09:08:24.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009778)  
and bring them to the table.

**[09:08:25.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009779)  
If the project is a viable project to ADB,

**[09:08:27.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009780)  
JICA, Korea, and other development partners,

**[09:08:31.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009781)  
Kung mataas ang economic return

**[09:08:34.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009782)  
at may handang tumulong sa financing,

**[09:08:36.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009783)  
hanapin natin ang mga proyektong ito

**[09:08:39.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009784)  
at simulan natin.

**[09:08:41.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009785)  
May pondo na,

**[09:08:43.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009786)  
may timetable pa.

**[09:08:45.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009787)  
Ang mas mahalaga ngayon

**[09:08:47.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009788)  
ay matupad ang mga commitment na ito.

**[09:08:49.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009789)  
The vision, however,

**[09:08:51.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009790)  
should extend beyond Sorsogon and Samar.

**[09:08:53.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009791)  
For the

**[09:08:55.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009792)  
for the Southern Leyte-Surigao Link,

**[09:08:58.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009793)  
350 million has been identified

**[09:09:01.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009794)  
for the feasibility study

**[09:09:03.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009795)  
with DPWH negotiating with ADB

**[09:09:08.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009796)  
for additional funding required.

**[09:09:11.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009797)  
During the same interpellation,

**[09:09:14.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009798)  
we also obtained commitments

**[09:09:17.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009799)  
to pursue funding for three additional inter-island links,

**[09:09:21.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009800)  
Maasin, Southern Leyte,

**[09:09:24.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009801)  
to Lapinig Island,

**[09:09:26.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009802)  
to Ubay, to Bohol,

**[09:09:28.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009803)  
Getafe, Bohol,

**[09:09:30.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009804)  
to Cordoba, Cebu,

**[09:09:32.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009805)  
and Santander, Cebu,

**[09:09:35.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009806)  
to Sibulan, Negros.

**[09:09:37.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009807)  
The DPWUH indicated

**[09:09:39.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009808)  
that these projects could secure

**[09:09:42.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009809)  
funding in the next budget

**[09:09:45.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009810)  
and through development partners or investors

**[09:09:48.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009811)  
with the Bohol-Cebu connection already studied

**[09:09:51.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009812)  
by the department,

**[09:09:53.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009813)  
and identified as a priority.

**[09:09:57.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009814)  
We should also include

**[09:09:59.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009815)  
the Camarines Sur-Catanduanes Inter-Island Connectivity Project

**[09:10:05.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009816)  
or the Friendship Bridge

**[09:10:08.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009817)  
being pushed by Representative Leo Rodriguez of Catanduanes,

**[09:10:12.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009818)  
envisioned as a long-span bridge connecting Catanduanes

**[09:10:17.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009819)  
to mainland Bicol.

**[09:10:19.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009820)  
The project already has around 80 million

**[09:10:22.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009821)  
in the 2026 GAA for feasibility study.

**[09:10:25.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009822)  
It belongs to the same larger vision

**[09:10:28.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009823)  
using strategic inter-island links

**[09:10:31.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009824)  
to connect communities that geography

**[09:10:34.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009825)  
has long kept apart.

**[09:10:37.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009826)  
Taken together,

**[09:10:39.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009827)  
these proposed links

**[09:10:41.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009828)  
could form part of a more integrated

**[09:10:43.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009829)  
inter-island transport network

**[09:10:46.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009830)  
across the Philippine archipelago,

**[09:10:48.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009831)  
connecting Catanduanes to mainland Bicol,

**[09:10:52.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009832)  
Luzon to Samar, Samar to Leyte,

**[09:10:55.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009833)  
Leyte to Mindanao,

**[09:10:57.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009834)  
while establishing additional fixed links

**[09:11:00.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009835)  
from Leyte to Bohol,

**[09:11:02.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009836)  
Bohol to Cebu, Cebu to Negros,

**[09:11:05.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009837)  
and eventually Negros to Panay,

**[09:11:08.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009838)  
complementing the Panay-Guimaras-Negros Island Bridges project.

**[09:11:13.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009839)  
In a period of slow economic growth,

**[09:11:16.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009840)  
these are the kinds of transformative projects

**[09:11:19.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009841)  
worth carefully pursuing.

**[09:11:21.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009842)  
Projects that can shorten travel time,

**[09:11:24.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009843)  
lower logistics costs,

**[09:11:26.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009844)  
open new markets,

**[09:11:28.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009845)  
bring communities closer together,

**[09:11:31.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009846)  
and ultimately expand the country's productive capacity.

**[09:11:35.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009847)  
As this representation has said

**[09:11:38.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009848)  
during the interpellation,

**[09:11:40.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009849)  
we bring our people to their destination faster.

**[09:11:45.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009850)  
We can bring our patients faster to our hospitals.

**[09:11:49.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009851)  
We can move

**[09:11:50.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009852)  
our goods faster,

**[09:11:51.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009853)  
and we can bring our families closer together.

**[09:11:56.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009854)  
But connectivity is not only an economic issue.

**[09:12:00.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009855)  
In an archipelagic country,

**[09:12:03.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009856)  
the same infrastructure that moves people and goods

**[09:12:06.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009857)  
also strengthens our ability

**[09:12:09.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009858)  
to respond to disasters,

**[09:12:11.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009859)  
move resources,

**[09:12:13.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009860)  
and secure our territory.

**[09:12:15.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009861)  
This brings us to another concern

**[09:12:17.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009862)  
raised during the budget deliberations

**[09:12:19.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009863)  
the need to strengthen our eastern seaboard.

**[09:12:24.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009864)  
Our eastern coast is not only an economic corridor,

**[09:12:27.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009865)  
it is also a strategic frontier.

**[09:12:30.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009866)  
In recent weeks,

**[09:12:32.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009867)  
the AFP confirmed monitoring foreign vessels

**[09:12:35.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009868)  
passing off the coast of eastern Samar.

**[09:12:38.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009869)  
The AFP assessed that particular passage

**[09:12:41.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009870)  
as non-threatening and consistent with navigation

**[09:12:45.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009871)  
through a normal shipping route.

**[09:12:47.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009872)  
We accept that professional assessment,

**[09:12:50.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009873)  
but it also reminds us of something basic.

**[09:12:55.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009874)  
Our defense posture cannot only be westward.

**[09:13:00.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009875)  
The Philippines is an archipelago.

**[09:13:04.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009876)  
Our eastern approaches face Pacific

**[09:13:09.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009877)  
and cover a vast maritime area.

**[09:13:12.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009878)  
The AFP's comprehensive archipelagic defense concept itself

**[09:13:16.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009879)  
recognizes the need to defend our entire maritime domain,

**[09:13:21.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009880)  
including our exclusive economic zones

**[09:13:24.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009881)  
and vital sea lanes.

**[09:13:26.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009882)  
Consequently,

**[09:13:28.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009883)  
Representative Christopher Sheen Gonzales

**[09:13:31.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009884)  
of the Lone District of Eastern Samar proposes

**[09:13:34.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009885)  
for the need to strengthen the country's defense posture

**[09:13:37.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009886)  
along eastern seaboard.

**[09:13:39.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009887)  
As our forces modernizes,

**[09:13:41.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009888)  
he called for greater investments

**[09:13:44.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009889)  
in maritime domain awareness,

**[09:13:46.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009890)  
radar and surveillance,

**[09:13:49.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009891)  
naval and air capacities,

**[09:13:51.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009892)  
and strategic facilities

**[09:13:54.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009893)  
along our Pacific coast

**[09:13:56.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009894)  
that will enable our forces

**[09:13:58.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009895)  
to effectively monitor and respond

**[09:14:01.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009896)  
when necessary.

**[09:14:03.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009897)  
This is not about identifying any country

**[09:14:07.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009898)  
as an enemy.

**[09:14:09.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009899)  
It is simply responsible national defense.

**[09:14:14.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009900)  
Kung pinapalakas

**[09:14:16.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009901)  
natin ang depensa sa kaunlaran.

**[09:14:19.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009902)  
Hindi dapat pabayaan ang silangan.

**[09:14:22.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009903)  
Ang isang kapuluan ay dapat may kakayahang bantayan

**[09:14:26.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009904)  
ang kanyang mga hangganan.

**[09:14:30.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009905)  
The bridges and transport links

**[09:14:32.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009906)  
we have discussed also have strategic dimension.

**[09:14:35.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009907)  
Better ports, roads, bridges, and logistics networks

**[09:14:41.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009908)  
strengthen not only commerce

**[09:14:44.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009909)  
but also disaster response, humanitarian assistance, and national resilience.

**[09:14:51.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009910)  
A connected Eastern Seaboard should therefore be a part of a broader national strategy.

**[09:15:00.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009911)  
We must protect it economically, secure it adequately, and ensure that development reaches the regions that have historically remained farthest from the centers of growth.

**[09:15:14.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009912)  
And that brings us to another principle that should guide this budget – regional equity.

**[09:15:20.960] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009913)  
Earlier, House Policy Research found that budget shares of Visayas and Mindanao have historically fallen below the shares of the country's poor population.

**[09:15:36.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009914)  
Large appropriations classified as nationwide or central office expenditures also make geographic distribution difficult to determine at enactment.

**[09:15:48.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009915)  
We are not asking for equal amounts for every region.

**[09:15:53.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009916)  
Allocations should reflect population, poverty, infrastructure, infrastructure gaps, disaster exposure, and geographic isolation.

**[09:16:06.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009917)  
Hindi dapat maging hadlang sa pag-unlad ang pagiging malayo sa sintro ng bansa.

**[09:16:13.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009918)  
We acknowledge one important reform in this budget.

**[09:16:18.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009919)  
Unprogrammed appropriations have been reduced approximately 112 billion or only 1.6% of the expenditure program.

**[09:16:30.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009920)  
That is welcome.

**[09:16:33.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009921)  
But transparency must also extend to program appropriations.

**[09:16:37.860] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009922)  
Congress should know, as far as practicable, the project, location, beneficiary, and purpose of the funds it appropriates.

**[09:16:48.660] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009923)  
Post-enactment discretion through lump sums, realignments, and release conditions should remain limited and transparent.

**[09:16:58.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009924)  
Kung ang kongreso ang may power of the purse dapat malinaw sa atin kung saan papunta ang pera sa oras na aprobahan natin ang budget.

**[09:17:10.020] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009925)  
And accountability should continue after enactment.

**[09:17:14.400] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009926)  
Indeed, an appropriation is not an

**[09:17:18.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009927)  
accomplishment.

**[09:17:19.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009928)  
What matters is what kind is what was actually implemented and whether it improved people's lives.

**[09:17:28.140] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009929)  
Representative Robert Nazal of [unclear] also cautioned against unlawful or manufactured savings.

**[09:17:38.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009930)  
Unspent funds should not automatically become savings.

**[09:17:42.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009931)  
And projects should not be delayed.

**[09:17:46.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009932)  
Merely to create funds

**[09:17:48.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009933)  
for transfer elsewhere.

**[09:17:51.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009934)  
Every declaration of savings must have a clear legal basis, proper documentation, and accountability.

**[09:18:02.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009935)  
Relatedly, Representative Edgar Erice of the 2nd District of Caloocan raised an important constitutional concern regarding the local government support fund.

**[09:18:16.120] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009936)  
and amount of discretion

**[09:18:18.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009937)  
that may remain after Congress approves the budget.

**[09:18:23.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009938)  
The Supreme Court has upheld the LGU as a valid appropriation where it has sufficiently defined purpose and adequate standards governing its implementation.

**[09:18:36.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009939)  
But this concern deserves attention.

**[09:18:39.680] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009940)  
Kung pagkatapos nating aprobahan ng budget, saka pa lamang malalaman kung aling LGU ang makakakuha,

**[09:18:48.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009941)  
magkano ang makakatanggap at kung anong proyekto ang pupunduhan,

**[09:18:51.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009942)  
Congress must carefully examine whether it has sufficiently exercised its own power of appropriation.

**[09:19:00.440] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009943)  
The issue is not whether we should assist our LGUs.

**[09:19:06.000] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009944)  
We should.

**[09:19:06.720] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009945)  
The issue is whether the GAA itself provides clear and objective standards

**[09:19:13.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009946)  
so that the allocation of billions of pesos in local government

**[09:19:18.220] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009947)  
support remains consistent with Congress' constitutional power of the purse.

**[09:19:25.920] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009948)  
Madam Speaker,

**[09:19:27.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009949)  
the minority recognizes the good provisions of this measure.

**[09:19:32.560] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009950)  
We recognize the reduction of the unprogrammed operations.

**[09:19:36.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009951)  
We recognize the need for fiscal discipline.

**[09:19:39.980] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009952)  
We recognize the programs and infrastructure investments that can contribute to growth.

**[09:19:46.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009953)  
And we appreciate

**[09:19:47.620] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009966)  
the majority's willingness to subject this budget to sustained scrutiny, but our reservations remain.

**[09:19:58.160] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009967)  
The fiscal choices before us are therefore difficult.

**[09:20:03.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009968)  
Economic growth has slowed, inflation continues to weigh most heavily on poorer households,

**[09:20:11.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009969)  
and substantial share of government revenues is already committed to debt service and other mandatory obligations.

**[09:20:22.080] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009970)  
Against this backdrop, the real measure of 7.2 trillion budget is not its size,

**[09:20:31.040] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009971)  
but the choices we make with the fiscal space that remains.

**[09:20:36.760] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009972)  
Whether we spend it efficiently,

**[09:20:41.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009973)  
direct it where it matters most,

**[09:20:44.540] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009974)  
and invest it in ways that strengthen our capacity to grow.

**[09:20:50.880] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009975)  
I began by saying, show me your budget, I will show you your priorities.

**[09:20:57.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009976)  
After these deliberations, I would add only this.

**[09:21:02.460] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009977)  
Ipakita natin kung saan napunta ang bawat pesong kaya pa nating pagpasyahan,

**[09:21:09.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009978)  
at ipakita natin ang resulta.

**[09:21:12.380] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009979)  
The final test of this budget will not be found in these pages.

**[09:21:18.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009980)  
It will be found in the lives of our people.

**[09:21:22.360] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009981)  
Kung dahil sa budget na ito,

**[09:21:23.780] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009982)  
ay mas maraming Pilipino ang magkakaroon ng disinting trabaho,

**[09:21:29.300] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009983)  
mapayapang tahanan, magandang kinabukasan para sa kanilang mga anak,

**[09:21:35.260] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009984)  
at pagkakataong umasinso sa sariling pagsisikap,

**[09:21:41.240] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009985)  
then,

**[09:21:41.480] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009986)  
we will have done our duty.

**[09:21:44.820] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009987)  
Sapagkat,

**[09:21:46.280] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009988)  
ang tunay na pagunlad,

**[09:21:48.580] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009989)  
ay kapag

**[09:21:49.500] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009990)  
ang mga kababayan natin

**[09:21:52.640] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009991)  
ay nabubuhay ng marangal,

**[09:21:56.520] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009992)  
may tiwala sa sarili,

**[09:21:58.600] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009993)  
at may pagmamalaking sabihin,

**[09:22:02.200] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009994)  
Pilipino ako.

**[09:22:03.700] Minority Leader Marcelino C. Libanan** (asr-009995)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[09:22:05.280] Committee member** (asr-009996)  
[applause]

**[09:22:06.280] Committee member** (asr-009997)  
[applause]

**[09:22:08.760] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-009998)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:22:12.360] Committee member** (asr-009999)  
[applause]

**[09:22:22.240] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010000)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:22:23.980] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-010001)  
Madam Speaker,

**[09:22:24.860] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-010002)  
I move to recognize Representative Antonio L. Tinio

**[09:22:28.800] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-010003)  
of ACT-Teachers Party List

**[09:22:30.500] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-010004)  
for his manifestation.

**[09:22:32.080] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010005)  
Representative Antonio Tinio is recognized for his manifestation.

**[09:22:36.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010006)  
Maraming Salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[09:22:40.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010007)  
Madam Speaker,

**[09:22:41.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010008)  
Mga kasamahan sa Kongreso, ang pinakamahalagang tanong sa ating sampung araw na debate at interpelasyon sa pambansang budget para sa 2027 ay hindi kung magkano.

**[09:22:57.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010009)  
Hindi mga numero at statistika, kundi para kanino? Para kanino ang budget na ito?

**[09:23:07.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010010)  
Sino ang pangunahing pinagsisilbihan ng budget? Sino ang pangunahing makikinabang?

**[09:23:17.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010011)  
Sinasabi ng Malacanang, para sa bayan, this is a people's budget, they say. We say to that, really? Talaga ba?

**[09:23:28.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010012)  
The right reply to that is, who are these people you speak of?

**[09:23:36.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010013)  
Ang pambansang budget.

**[09:23:37.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010014)  
Ang pambansang budget ay salamin ng pambansang patakaran.

**[09:23:41.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010015)  
Sabi ng presidente at mga economic managers, hindi na mahirap na bansa ang Pilipinas. Upper middle income country na raw tayo.

**[09:23:52.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010016)  
Pero, sabi ng ordinaryong Pilipino, di ko ramdam. Bakit ganon?

**[09:23:59.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010017)  
For decades, the national budget has faithfully supported one set of policies.

**[09:24:07.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010018)  
Often called neoliberal or free market policies. Ito po yung privatization, deregulation, and liberalization.

**[09:24:16.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010019)  
Under these policies, the things a nation needs just to function are now owned by a handful of families and conglomerates.

**[09:24:27.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010020)  
Energy. Oil and gas. Electricity. Water. Telecommunications. Our expressways.

**[09:24:37.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010021)  
Airports. Seaports. Dating nasa kamay ng gobyerno, ngayon, malalaking profit centers pinagkikitaan ng iilan.

**[09:24:49.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010022)  
Lumago ang ekonomiya. At sila ang pangunahing nakikinabang.

**[09:24:55.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010023)  
Ano ang resulta? Mahal na serbisyo. Mataas na presyo. Mahal na kuryente. Mahal na tubig. Mahal na bigas.

**[09:25:07.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010024)  
At pambihirang yaman para sa iilang oligarko.

**[09:25:12.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010025)  
Hindi na lang mga bilyonaryo. Mga trilyonaryo na ang mga pinakamayamang Pilipino.

**[09:25:20.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010026)  
Razon, Ramon Ang, Pangilinan, Aboitiz. Yan lang ang ilan sa mga pangunahing nakikinabang sa economic policies and environment na sinusustentuhan ng pambansang budget.

**[09:25:35.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010027)  
Samantala, sino ang pumapasan, pinipiga, at nagbabayad?

**[09:25:42.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010028)  
Ang mga small and medium businesses na gipit dahil sa

**[09:25:48.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010029)  
mataas na kuryente, mataas

**[09:25:50.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010030)  
na interes sa loans,

**[09:25:52.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010031)  
kompetisyon mula sa

**[09:25:54.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010032)  
murang imported goods due

**[09:25:56.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010033)  
to liberalization.

**[09:25:58.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010034)  
Ang Filipino middle class

**[09:26:00.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010035)  
kasama ang mga

**[09:26:02.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010036)  
profesional na mababa ang kita

**[09:26:04.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010037)  
underpaid

**[09:26:06.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010038)  
and overtaxed.

**[09:26:08.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010039)  
Milyon-milyon sa kanila

**[09:26:09.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010040)  
ang nangibang bansa bilang

**[09:26:12.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010041)  
OFW dahil

**[09:26:14.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010042)  
wala silang maasahan

**[09:26:15.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010043)  
sa ating ekonomiya.

**[09:26:17.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010044)  
At higit sa lahat

**[09:26:19.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010045)  
ang malawak na hanay

**[09:26:21.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010046)  
ng mamamayan.

**[09:26:23.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010047)  
Ano ang para sa kanila?

**[09:26:25.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010048)  
Malaganap na unemployment

**[09:26:27.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010049)  
at underemployment

**[09:26:29.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010050)  
dahil pinananatiling

**[09:26:32.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010051)  
atrasado ang

**[09:26:33.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010052)  
agrikultura at walang

**[09:26:35.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010053)  
sariling industriya.

**[09:26:37.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010054)  
Pareho, dahil ito

**[09:26:39.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010055)  
pinapaboran

**[09:26:40.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010056)  
ang importasyon

**[09:26:42.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010057)  
sa halip na sariling produksyon.

**[09:26:45.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010058)  
Service sector

**[09:26:47.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010059)  
jobs alone will not lead

**[09:26:49.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010060)  
to genuine growth.

**[09:26:51.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010061)  
Kung walang produksyon,

**[09:26:53.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010062)  
walang trabaho, a country that

**[09:26:55.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010063)  
does not produce, cannot

**[09:26:56.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010064)  
employ its people.

**[09:26:59.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010065)  
What has the national budget

**[09:27:01.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010066)  
offered this majority?

**[09:27:03.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010067)  
Not jobs, not land,

**[09:27:05.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010068)  
not industry, but

**[09:27:07.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010069)  
an ever-widening safety

**[09:27:09.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010070)  
net of ayuda

**[09:27:10.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010071)  
and politicized social

**[09:27:13.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010072)  
services. Ang papalaking

**[09:27:15.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010073)  
pondo para sa ayuda,

**[09:27:17.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010074)  
ay sintoma

**[09:27:18.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010075)  
hindi ng tagumpay,

**[09:27:21.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010076)  
kundi ng kabiguan

**[09:27:22.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010077)  
ng ekonomiya.

**[09:27:25.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010078)  
Lumalawak ang lambat

**[09:27:26.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010079)  
dahil dumarami

**[09:27:28.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010080)  
ang nalalaglag.

**[09:27:31.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010081)  
Under the Marcos

**[09:27:33.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010082)  
Junior Administration, this pattern of

**[09:27:34.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010083)  
budget priorities,

**[09:27:36.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010084)  
pakinabang sa ilan,

**[09:27:38.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010085)  
safety net para sa nakararami,

**[09:27:41.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010086)  
has taken its most extreme

**[09:27:43.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010087)  
form, a massive

**[09:27:44.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010088)  
expansion of pork,

**[09:27:47.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010089)  
above all in the form

**[09:27:49.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010090)  
of investments

**[09:27:51.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010091)  
in infrastructure

**[09:27:53.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010092)  
and ayuda.

**[09:27:56.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010093)  
Take flood control.

**[09:27:58.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010094)  
In 2016,

**[09:28:00.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010095)  
flood control

**[09:28:01.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010096)  
took 20% of DPWH

**[09:28:03.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010097)  
capital outlay.

**[09:28:05.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010098)  
By 2024, it had grown to about

**[09:28:07.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010099)  
357 billion.

**[09:28:10.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010100)  
That is 36.6%

**[09:28:12.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010101)  
of the entire

**[09:28:14.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010102)  
DPWH capital

**[09:28:15.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010103)  
outlay.

**[09:28:17.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010104)  
Sa ilalim ng Marcos Junior

**[09:28:18.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010105)  
Administration, more than

**[09:28:20.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010106)  
1 peso in every 3 for

**[09:28:22.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010107)  
public works went to

**[09:28:24.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010108)  
flood control.

**[09:28:27.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010109)  
Nabawasan ba ang baha?

**[09:28:30.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010110)  
Lalong lumala

**[09:28:31.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010111)  
dahil sa ghost,

**[09:28:33.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010112)  
unfinished, substandard,

**[09:28:35.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010113)  
at overpriced na mga

**[09:28:36.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010114)  
flood control projects. Hindi effective

**[09:28:39.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010115)  
waste of public funds

**[09:28:41.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010116)  
ang flood control

**[09:28:42.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010117)  
na inaatado

**[09:28:44.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010118)  
sa kapasyahan ng mga

**[09:28:46.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010119)  
politiko.

**[09:28:48.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010120)  
Then there's ayuda.

**[09:28:50.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010121)  
Sa ilalim ng administrasyong ito,

**[09:28:53.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010122)  
mula, mula

**[09:28:54.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010123)  
2016,

**[09:28:56.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010124)  
ay hanggang

**[09:28:58.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010125)  
2026, ay tumaas

**[09:29:00.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010126)  
ang appropriation

**[09:29:02.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010127)  
para sa AICS by

**[09:29:04.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010128)  
92 times.

**[09:29:07.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010129)  
Tumaas ang

**[09:29:08.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010130)  
MAIFIP 36 times.

**[09:29:11.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010131)  
TUPAD,

**[09:29:12.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010132)  
times 7,

**[09:29:13.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010133)  
ang itinaas.

**[09:29:14.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010134)  
Pinakamalaking

**[09:29:16.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010135)  
paglaki ng mga ito

**[09:29:19.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010136)  
ay nangyari sa unang

**[09:29:21.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010137)  
tatlong taon ng Marcos Junior

**[09:29:23.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010138)  
Administration. Kaya masasabi na

**[09:29:25.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010139)  
ginawang Ayuda Nation

**[09:29:26.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010140)  
ang Pilipinas. Sa halip

**[09:29:29.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010141)  
na karapatan,

**[09:29:30.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010142)  
ginawang pribilehyo na

**[09:29:33.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010143)  
ginagawad ng mga politiko

**[09:29:35.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010144)  
ang edukasyon,

**[09:29:37.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010145)  
kalusugan, tulong sa

**[09:29:39.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010146)  
panahon ng kagipitan.

**[09:29:41.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010147)  
Resulta,

**[09:29:43.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010148)  
Ayuda,

**[09:29:44.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010149)  
ang kasangkapan at sandata

**[09:29:46.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010150)  
lalo na sa panahon ng eleksyon

**[09:29:48.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010151)  
at dahil dito

**[09:29:50.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010152)  
ang pamamayagpag

**[09:29:52.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010153)  
ng mga political dynasties

**[09:29:55.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010154)  
na may kontrol sa Ayuda.

**[09:29:58.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010155)  
Naging posible

**[09:29:59.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010156)  
ang lahat.

**[09:30:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010157)  
ng ito dahil sa utang

**[09:30:01.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010158)  
8.06

**[09:30:04.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010159)  
Trillion Pesos ang dagdag

**[09:30:06.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010160)  
ng Marcos Jr. Administration

**[09:30:07.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010161)  
sa pambansang utang

**[09:30:10.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010162)  
2.7

**[09:30:12.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010163)  
Trillion Pesos ang babayaran

**[09:30:14.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010164)  
sa 2027

**[09:30:15.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010165)  
Debt-fueled

**[09:30:18.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010166)  
pork-driven spending

**[09:30:19.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010167)  
that fed corruption

**[09:30:21.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010168)  
politicized social services

**[09:30:23.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010169)  
further corrupted elections

**[09:30:26.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010170)  
and entrenched

**[09:30:27.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010171)  
political dynasties

**[09:30:29.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010172)  
At sino ang magbabayad

**[09:30:32.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010173)  
sa utang na ito?

**[09:30:33.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010174)  
Ang mga Pilipino ngayon

**[09:30:35.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010175)  
at sa susunod

**[09:30:36.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010176)  
na henerasyon

**[09:30:38.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010177)  
Sabi ng Malacanang

**[09:30:41.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010178)  
the scandals

**[09:30:43.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010179)  
the budget scandals

**[09:30:45.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010180)  
are now behind us

**[09:30:47.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010181)  
nag-reforma na raw

**[09:30:48.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010182)  
from 2026

**[09:30:51.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010183)  
and also 2027

**[09:30:52.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010184)  
fresh start

**[09:30:53.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010185)  
But look at what

**[09:30:56.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010186)  
the 2027

**[09:30:58.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010187)  
budget proposal

**[09:31:00.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010188)  
actually contains

**[09:31:02.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010189)  
Una, binalik ang flood control

**[09:31:04.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010190)  
107 billion pesos

**[09:31:07.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010191)  
nananatiling

**[09:31:08.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010192)  
inaatado ng mga politiko

**[09:31:12.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010193)  
sa halip na nakabatay

**[09:31:13.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010194)  
sa scientific

**[09:31:15.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010195)  
plano

**[09:31:17.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010196)  
Yet, this is going to be

**[09:31:20.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010197)  
yet another

**[09:31:21.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010198)  
massive waste of public funds

**[09:31:23.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010199)  
kung aprobahan ito

**[09:31:25.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010200)  
Dagdag pa, patuloy pa rin

**[09:31:27.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010201)  
na dine-deny

**[09:31:28.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010202)  
ang mga allocable

**[09:31:30.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010203)  
Samantala, DPWH

**[09:31:33.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010204)  
admitted that they will propose

**[09:31:35.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010205)  
a 20 billion

**[09:31:36.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010206)  
so-called institutional

**[09:31:38.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010207)  
proposal to its own budget

**[09:31:41.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010208)  
This is the old allocable system

**[09:31:45.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010209)  
under a new name

**[09:31:46.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010210)  
Ibig sabihin, ito yung mga

**[09:31:49.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010211)  
inihahabol na proyekto

**[09:31:51.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010212)  
ng mga kongresista

**[09:31:53.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010213)  
Bakit pa dine-deny?

**[09:31:56.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010214)  
No?

**[09:31:57.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010215)  
Dapat maging transparent

**[09:31:59.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010216)  
We need transparency

**[09:32:01.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010217)  
not denial

**[09:32:03.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010218)  
That's why we support the proposal

**[09:32:05.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010219)  
na i-publish

**[09:32:06.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010220)  
kung sino ang district representative

**[09:32:10.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010221)  
party list representative

**[09:32:11.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010222)  
at maging senador

**[09:32:12.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010223)  
na nag-propose ng proyekto

**[09:32:14.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010224)  
ng bawat proyekto

**[09:32:16.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010225)  
sa General Appropriations Act

**[09:32:18.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010226)  
Pangalawa, tuloy ang LGU

**[09:32:21.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010227)  
pork ng Pangulo

**[09:32:22.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010228)  
sa pamamagitan ng

**[09:32:24.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010229)  
LGSF, nananatili dyan

**[09:32:27.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010230)  
ang proposal

**[09:32:27.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010231)  
for 58.5 billion

**[09:32:30.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010232)  
kahit 7% lamang

**[09:32:34.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010233)  
ang disbursement rate

**[09:32:35.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010234)  
particular

**[09:32:36.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010235)  
ng financial assistance

**[09:32:38.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010236)  
to LGU

**[09:32:40.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010237)  
Kung magiging patas

**[09:32:43.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010238)  
ang DBM

**[09:32:45.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010239)  
hindi papahintulutan

**[09:32:47.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010240)  
ang paglaki

**[09:32:48.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010241)  
kung napakaliit ng paggamit

**[09:32:50.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010242)  
It is presidential pork

**[09:32:52.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010243)  
released at Malacanang's discretion

**[09:32:54.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010244)  
to the local governments

**[09:32:56.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010245)  
it chooses

**[09:32:57.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010246)  
Pangatlo,

**[09:32:58.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010247)  
tinatali ng budget na ito

**[09:33:00.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010248)  
ang kaligtasan at kapakanan

**[09:33:02.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010249)  
ng ating bansa

**[09:33:03.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010260)  
sa interes

**[09:33:04.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010261)  
ng Estados Unidos

**[09:33:05.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010262)  
at ang paghahanda nito

**[09:33:07.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010263)  
para sa gera

**[09:33:08.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010264)  
Through Pax Silica,

**[09:33:10.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010265)  
through the Critical Minerals

**[09:33:12.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010266)  
Memorandum of Understanding,

**[09:33:15.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010267)  
through expanding

**[09:33:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010268)  
its military footprint

**[09:33:17.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010269)  
based on the

**[09:33:19.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010270)  
Mutual Defense Treaty,

**[09:33:21.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010271)  
EDCA

**[09:33:21.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010272)  
and the VFA.

**[09:33:23.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010273)  
Ang gera

**[09:33:25.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010274)  
ng US

**[09:33:26.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010275)  
ay hindi natin

**[09:33:27.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010276)  
gera.

**[09:33:27.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010278)  
Pero ginagawa tayong base, lunsaran at target. Sinusuportahan ito ng kasalukuyang budget proposal.

**[09:33:39.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010279)  
Pang-apat, kinaltasan ang serbisyo habang pinapalaki ang ayuda. Funding for core education programs for teachers, for hospitals, health workers, social welfare and labor protection are cut.

**[09:33:55.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010280)  
while AICS, MAIFIP and TUPAD remain the main channels for help at gusto pang dagdagan.

**[09:34:04.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010281)  
Pang-lima, pinagdadamutan ang mga kawani ng gobyerno. After 17 years without an increase in personnel economic relief allowance, 2 million government employees are offered a mere 500 pesos a month increase.

**[09:34:22.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010282)  
Dapat dagdagan ito.

**[09:34:25.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010283)  
At nasa posisyon ang administrasyon at si Pangulong Marcos para gumuhit sa kasaysayan sa pamamagitan ng significant, substantial increase sa PERA.

**[09:34:39.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010284)  
Mr. Speaker, hindi lang po tayo nag-offer ng analysis at critique. We come with specific demands.

**[09:34:51.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010285)  
Una, no to pork.

**[09:34:55.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010286)  
No to ineffective and wasteful flood control.

**[09:34:58.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010287)  
Tanggalin na po yung 107 billion at ang pondong ito pwedeng ilipat sa mga hinihingi nating dagdag.

**[09:35:06.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010288)  
Itigil ang LGSF bilang presidential pork.

**[09:35:10.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010289)  
Isama na rin ang confidential and intelligence funds na mahigit 10 billion piso.

**[09:35:16.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010290)  
Pangalawa, ibalik ang binawas at taasan ng pondo para sa edukasyon, kalusugan, pabahay at social welfare.

**[09:35:25.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010291)  
Pondo para sa serbisyo, hindi ayuda.

**[09:35:29.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010292)  
Pondo para sa dagdag na classroom at teacher items sa basic at higher education.

**[09:35:34.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010293)  
Dagdag na hospital beds at health workers para maging regular ang mga job order and contract of service.

**[09:35:43.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010294)  
Pondohan ang 5.3 billion pesos na free higher education deficiency for 2026 and 2027.

**[09:35:53.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010295)  
Pondohan ang

**[09:35:54.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010296)  
production subsidy na 50,000 para sa magsasaka at 30,000 para sa mangingisda.

**[09:36:02.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010297)  
Pangatlo, PERA ng mga kawani ng gobyerno dagdagan.

**[09:36:06.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010298)  
After 17 years, hindi po sapat ang 500 peso increase.

**[09:36:13.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010299)  
Minimum, doblehin po ang appropriations pero kailangan higit pa.

**[09:36:21.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010300)  
And there must be regularization.

**[09:36:23.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010301)  
Para sa mga job order.

**[09:36:24.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010302)  
At contract of service sa gobyerno.

**[09:36:27.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010303)  
Pangapat, no to Pax Silica and US military presence on our soil.

**[09:36:32.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010304)  
We need an independent industrialization policy that builds our own industries and jobs.

**[09:36:40.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010305)  
And an independent defense policy that serves Filipino interests, not foreign strategy.

**[09:36:50.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010306)  
Bilang pangwakas, Madam Speaker,

**[09:36:52.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010307)  
these demands are urgent and they must be met.

**[09:36:58.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010308)  
But even if every one of these demands were granted, they would not change the fundamental character of this budget.

**[09:37:06.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010309)  
Debate on the budget is ultimately a debate on national policy.

**[09:37:11.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010310)  
The budget reflects policy.

**[09:37:13.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010311)  
As long as the policy is privatization, deregulation, liberalization, debt-driven patronage,

**[09:37:22.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010312)  
and dependence on a foreign power, the budget will reflect it, no matter how many line items we amend.

**[09:37:29.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010313)  
Kaya ang laban ay hindi lamang laban sa loob ng General Appropriations Bill.

**[09:37:37.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010314)  
Ang laban ay para baguhin ang patakaran na pinagsisilbihan nito.

**[09:37:42.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010315)  
It is a fight for a budget that serves the Filipino people, not the oligarchs, not the dynasties, not a foreign power.

**[09:37:52.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010316)  
Budget para sa serbisyo, hindi para sa pork, para sa mamamayan, hindi para sa ilan, para sa bayan, hindi para sa dayuhan.

**[09:38:02.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-010317)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Speaker.

**[09:38:10.200] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010318)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:38:14.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010319)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:38:15.660] Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos** (asr-010320)  
Madam Speaker, I move to close the period of sponsorship and debate on House Bill No. 10858.

**[09:38:22.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010321)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[09:38:25.620] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010322)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:38:26.860] Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos** (asr-010323)  
Madam Speaker, I move to suspend consideration of House Bill No. 10858.

**[09:38:32.580] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010324)  
Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[09:38:36.220] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010325)  
Majority Leader.

**[09:38:36.940] Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos** (asr-010326)  
Madam Speaker, there being no business left for the day, after two grueling weeks, I move to adjourn until Tuesday, 3 p.m., the 29th of September.

**[09:38:49.440] Rep. Ferdinand Alexander A. Marcos** (asr-010327)  
I so move.

**[09:38:50.600] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010328)  
Is there any objection?

**[09:38:52.060] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010329)  
The Chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[09:38:54.780] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-010330)  
Session is adjourned until September 29, Tuesday at 3 p.m.