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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and the resource persons present today.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon, Your Honors.

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Committee Secretary: May we acknowledge the following members.

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Committee Secretary: We have Vice Chair Keith Micah "Mike" Tan,

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Committee Secretary: Vice Chair Gerryboy Espina,

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Committee Secretary: Vice Chair Francisco Matugas,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Solomon Chungalao,

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Committee Secretary: Representative John J.P. Padernos,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Henry Oaminal,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Dada Kiram Ismula,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Chel Diokno,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Reynante Michael Tan,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Stephen James Tan.

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Committee Secretary: May we also acknowledge our guests from the Department of Justice.

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Committee Secretary: We have Secretary Fredderick A. Vida,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Garney Candelaria,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Ian Norman Dato,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Majken Anika Gran-Ong,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Margarita Gutierrez,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Deo Marco,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Nicholas Felix Ty,

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Committee Secretary: Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon,

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Committee Secretary: Chief State Counsel Dennis Arvin Chan,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Jose Marino Bernardez of the Witness Protection Program,

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Committee Secretary: Executive Director Hannah Lizette Manalili from the Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking,

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Committee Secretary: Chairman Miguel Gudio Jr. from the Board of Claims,

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Committee Secretary: Director General Gregorio Pio Catapang Jr. from the Bureau of Corrections,

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Committee Secretary: from the Bureau of Immigration, Commissioner Joel Anthony Viado,

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Committee Secretary: from the Land Registration Authority Administrator,

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Committee Secretary: Gerardo Sirios,

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Committee Secretary: National Bureau of Investigation Director Melvin Matibag,

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Committee Secretary: Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas,

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Committee Secretary: from the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Jose Arturo Malvar,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Shanon Christopher Gaerlan,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Robert Nomar,

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Committee Secretary: Leyretana,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Maria Elisa Germar,

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Committee Secretary: from the Office of the Government Corporate Counsel,

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Committee Secretary: Government Corporate Counsel Solomon Hermosura,

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Committee Secretary: Office of the Solicitor General,

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Committee Secretary: Solicitor General Darlene Marie Berberabe,

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Committee Secretary: Administrator Bienvenido Benitez Jr. from the Parole and Probation Administration,

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Committee Secretary: Chairperson Melchor Quirino Sadang,

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Committee Secretary: Presidential Commission on Good Government,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Maria Charina Dy Po,

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Committee Secretary: and Chief Public Attorney Persida V. Rueda-Acosta from the Public Attorney's Office.

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Committee Secretary: That's all.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Honorable members, distinguished colleagues and esteemed guests, good afternoon.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We welcome our guests from the Department of Justice,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: led by Secretary Fredderick A. Vida,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: together with the heads of its attached agencies.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Today, we deliberate on the proposed

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: budget of the Department of Justice

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and its attached agencies for fiscal year 2027

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with a total obligation budget of 46.435 billion pesos,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: inclusive of automatic appropriations.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This represents only 0.68% of the 7.2 trillion peso national budget

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and is about 2% higher than the previous budget.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: In 2025, the DOJ recorded important operational gains.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The National Prosecution Service handled 428,779 cases and disposed or resolved 395,780, a 99.12% disposition rate, while the prosecution success rate improved to 90.84%. The NBI also conducted 56,212 investigations

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and processed 6.62 million clearance applications.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: While the PCGG reported about 1.57 billion pesos in recoveries

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and income from surrendered or sequestered assets.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: These gains, however, must be sustained amid significant resource pressures.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Under the fiscal year 2027 NEP,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Bureau of Immigration budget is reduced by 35.8%,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the NBI by 22.3%,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: by 16.3%.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: In DOJ OSEC,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: funding for the

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Special Enforcement and Protection Subprogram

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is reduced by almost half,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: including lower allocations for anti-trafficking,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: anti-cybercrime,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and OSAEC-CSAEM.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The corrections program also faces a 21.05% reduction,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: including a cut in victims' compensation services

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: from 19 million to 8 million pesos.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At the same time,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 68.32% of the Department's

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: fiscal year 2027 budget is for

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: personal services,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: while leaving 24.42% for MOOE

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and only 7.26% for capital outlay.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The Committee must therefore determine

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: whether the proposed budget can preserve

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the DOJ's 2025 gains

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: while addressing heavy caseloads,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: prison decongestion,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: border control,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: investigative capacity,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: cybercrime and trafficking,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: victim compensation,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and access to justice.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We look forward to the Department's

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: clarification of these challenges,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: its priorities for fiscal year 2027,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and the measurable results

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: it expects to deliver

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the resources proposed.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Secretary Vida,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: you may now proceed with your presentation po.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Thank you very much.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Congressman Mike Tan,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: thank you very much.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May I proceed?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Good afternoon,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: honorable members of the Committee.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: On behalf of the entire DOJ family,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I am pleased to present to you

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the proposed budget

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for fiscal year 2027

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the Department of Justice,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: including that of its constituent

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and attached agencies.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is based on the President's budget

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or the National Expenditure Program.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With me today are my undersecretaries,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and Assistant Secretaries.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and Assistant Secretaries.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And as earlier mentioned,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: all of the heads of agencies

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and their relevant officers

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and personnel are available.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: These are here this afternoon

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to provide answers or details

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on any query

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that the members of the Committee may raise.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The 10 agencies

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: under the Department of Justice

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: are one,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Office of the Solicitor General,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: second,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Bureau of Corrections,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Bureau of Immigration,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the National Bureau of Investigation,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Office of the Government Corporate Counsel,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Parole and Probation Administration,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Presidential Commission on Good Government,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Public Attorney's Office,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: your honors,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: my colleague,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Undersecretary Majken Anika

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: S. Gran-Ong, will continue with our presentation.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: You may proceed, Usec.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Good afternoon.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department's overarching framework

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is defined by its core mandate

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to uphold the rule of law

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and serve as the Department's principal law agency.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In pursuit of its vision

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to foster a just and peaceful society

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rooted in transparency,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: accountability,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: fairness, and truth,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department executes its mission,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by delivering an effective,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: efficient,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and equitable administration of justice nationwide.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: administers the criminal justice system

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: through the investigation of crimes,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the prosecution of offenders,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and the administration of the correctional system.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Beyond criminal justice,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department also maintains oversight

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: over immigration,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: citizenship,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and land titling system.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Above all,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: guarantees social justice

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by extending free legal assistance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to our most vulnerable

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: indigent citizens.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In the next few slides, we will highlight

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: some of the key operational accomplishments

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the Department.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department, through the National Prosecution

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Service, or NPS,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: consistently demonstrated

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: enhanced prosecutorial output

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and case management efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: over the past five years.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: More significantly,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2025,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the NPS handled a heavy total

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: caseload of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 428,779

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: cases. By year end,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 395,780

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of these

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: were disposed and resolved,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: resulting in 99.12%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of cases resolved within the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: prescribed 120 days,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: improving upon the 99%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: accomplishment recorded in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2024. The

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: resolved cases include all those

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: complaints under preliminary investigation,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: inquest, and motion for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reconsideration.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Turning to court dispositions,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department has consistently

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: sustained high prosecution

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: success rates, or PSR,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: over the past five years.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: At present, the prosecution

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: success rate measures the proportion

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of convictions

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in relation to total convictions

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and acquittals. The PSR

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: excludes other court dispositions,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: such as dismissal,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: files, archivals, and successful

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: mediation. As shown in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: this slide, the Department

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: posts an upward trajectory

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in terms of PSR.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The PSR rose to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 90.84% in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025 from 90.14%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2024.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This performance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reflects concrete results

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the Department's institutional reforms,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: especially in strengthening

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: pre-trial case build-up,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: tightening evidence standards,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and adopting a proactive role

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in criminal investigation.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Moving on to our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: overall agency performance,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the succeeding slides show

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: our agency physical performance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and first

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: semester of 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Under the prosecution sub-program,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: we maintained high

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: operational output. The

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: NPS attained a PSR of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 90.84% in

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2025, which is furthered

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to 91.38% in the first semester

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of 2026. Further, case disposition rate

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: remained high at 99.12% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As of first semester, case disposition rate

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: has reached 97.94%, which is expected to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: increase further by year-end. For our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: witness protection sub-program, we achieved

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: a 100% success rate across all three key

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: indicators in the first semester of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2026. Further,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: through our special

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: enforcement and protection sub

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: program, we have attained

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 95.16%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: successful prosecution on

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: monitored cases in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As of the first semester,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: responsible units have already attained

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 94.23%,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is anticipated to trend

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: upward by year end.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The special enforcement cluster

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reported an improvement

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: completion rate of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 95.76%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: as of the first semester,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: a slight increase

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from 95.34%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Under our corrections

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: program, the agency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: has issued 100% of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: parole and executive clemency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: resolutions in 2025

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and in the first half of 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Similarly,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: all applications and requests

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for victim compensation

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: claims in 2025

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and the first half of 2026

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: were acted upon during the period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The legal services program

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recorded an improved efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rate, attaining

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 99.12% of legal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: service requests acted upon

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the first semester of this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: an increase from 99.05%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Relative to our law enforcement

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: services, the National Bureau

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of Investigation conducted a

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and acted upon

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 32,419 investigations

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in the first semester

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: this year, tracking

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: steadily against the full year

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: total of 56,212

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For clearance applications,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the NBI was able to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: process 99.28%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of requests within the prescribed time of 10 minutes in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This year, as of the first semester, the NBI has already reached an efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rate of 98.79 percent and may surpass previous year's performance by year end.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: On the other hand, the Bureau of Immigration cleared 99.9 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of foreign arrivals and departures in 2025, which is the same as of the first

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: semester this year. For the first half of this year, the BI already achieved

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 96.02 per cent of intelligence case disposition within 60 days.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This has already exceeded its annual budget target of 95.91 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by 0.51 percent. The BI commits to sustain its performance by year-end.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In terms of Corrections Administration, the average daily number

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of PDLs

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: managed and safe-kept by the Bureau of Corrections stood at 52,708 in the first semester,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: down to 53,972 in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This indicates steady progress in prison decongestion.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: PDL engagement in reformation rehabilitation programs rose to 98.60% in the first semester this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from 97.97% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Moreover, client compliance with probation and parole conditions increased to 99.46% in the first half of 2026,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compared to 98.96% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Additionally, participation of probationers and parolees in community-based rehabilitation programs of the PPA

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reached 98.69% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: And 98.75% in the first semester, but is expected to improve by the end of the year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The performance metrics on this slide shows operational efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and high client satisfaction in the provision of legal services.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Public Attorney's Office sustained high disposition rates of cases with favorable judgment,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: both in 2025 and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: At the same time, the PAO was able to improve its performance metrics in 2025 and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The PAO was able to achieve high success rates on alternative dispute resolution for the year 2025 at 91.43%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Office of the Solicitor General acted on 98.3% of the cases it handled in 2025,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which increased to 98.6% in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Across the assessment periods, the agency was also able to act on 100% of petitions for naturalization,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the high-performance results led to excellent satisfaction ratings from their client agencies.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Similarly, from 2025 up to 2026, the Office of the Government Corporate Counsel, or OGCC,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: was able to file 100% of its pleadings within the prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Meanwhile, as of the first semester of this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 88% of contracts were reviewed and legal opinions were rendered by the OGCC

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: within the prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: A significant increase of 8% from its accomplishment rate in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In the case of the Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the agency has surpassed its accomplishments in 2025,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: with 93.94% titles issued and 95.67% of deeds annotated within 20 days from receipt of complete documents.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Meanwhile, the Presidential Commission on Good Government,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reported around $1.57 billion of recovered amount and proceeds

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from the administration of fully taken over sequestered assets in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Commission is expected to remit the same amount to the Treasury by the end of this year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Lastly, the Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolution continuously advances the use of ADR mechanisms,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: having trained 3,392 practitioners and implementers in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: It has also acted upon all applications for accreditation and approval of ADR training programs for 2025 and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Overall, the whole Department remains steadfast and optimistic and sustaining,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: if not surpassing its high performance results.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The total proposed budget of the DOJ, including its constituent and attached agencies for 2027,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amounts to 46.435 billion

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: as compared with fiscal year 2026 approved budget of 45.525 billion.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As you may note, the DOJ budget for 2027 is retained at 0.64 percent or less than 1 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the published total NEP budget of 7.2 trillion. Overall, for the FY2027 NEP-based budget,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 68.32 percent is for personal services, including salaries and other compensation of employees.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Only 24.42 percent is programmed for maintenance and other operating expenses, while 7.26 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: accounts for the capital outlay of select agencies of the department. The slight increase in the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: overall NEP budget of the DOJ is attributed mainly to the increased funding requirements

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for personal salaries and other compensation. For 2027, the department-wide budget proposal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amounts to 121.63 billion, but the total budget recommended in the 2027 NEP is only 46.35 billion,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: or only 38.18 percent of the submitted proposed budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This slide shows our comparative budget for 2026 and 2027 by allotment class in millions pesos.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Details of these figures will be shown later. With the permission of the honorable members

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the committee, please allow me to present the DOJ OSSEC budget in the next several slides.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For 2027, the Office of the Secretary is provided with a total budget of 13.93 billion,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: wherein 70.67% is for PS, 12.47% for MOOE,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 16.86% for CO.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For our law enforcement program, the budget of the National Prosecution Service

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: increased by 7.64%, on the contrary, with substantial reductions in the budgets for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: anti-trafficking in persons, anti-cyber crime, and OSEC-CISCM. The budget for special enforcement and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: sub-program is reduced by almost half in 2027 at 204 million compared to the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: current appropriations of 402 million. For 2027, the target disposition rate of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: criminal complaints handled by the NPS is set at 97 percent. The

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Department, through the Witness Protection Program, aims to act on all

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: applications for witness coverage and that 95.34 percent of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: investigations undertaken by special enforcement units must be completed. The

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: total recommended appropriations for our corrections program in 2027 is reduced

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by 21.05 percent. Compared to our current year's approved funding, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recommended budget for our pardons and parole services is slightly reduced by

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2.63 percent at 37 million. On the other hand, the recommended budget for victim

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compensation service is cut by more than half from 19 million in 2026 to 8

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: million in 2027. With significantly reduced budgets for next year, the Board

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of Pardons and Parole will ensure that 99.72 percent of appropriations for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: parole and executive clemency are acted upon and that 100 percent of board

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: resolutions on the grant of parole and executive clemency are issued within the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Moreover, the Board of Claims will have to act upon all applications for victim

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compensation next year. For 2027, the legal staff shall ensure that 97.07

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent of requests for legal services are acted upon with a working budget of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 205 million, which is 4.59 percent higher than the 2026 budget. For attached and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: constituent agencies, we start with the Bureau of Corrections.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Their 2027 budget, recommended budget, amounts to 11.93 billion, which is 9.66

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent higher than the appropriations of the current year. On average, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Bucor is committed to maintaining safekeep around 56,454 PDLs daily and to ensure that 98.13 percent of PDLs participate in their rehabilitation programs. For the Bureau of Immigration, their 2027 budget is

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recommended budget is 2.98

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion, which is 35.8

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent lower than the 2026 budget. Given this, the BI is set to clear the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: arrival or departure of 99.99 percent of foreign passengers.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Further, the BI needs to dispose, within 60 days, 95.91 percent of their

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: intelligence cases.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Authority, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 3.28 billion, which is 13.70 percent higher

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: than the 2.88 billion budget in 2026. Given this, the LRA will be able to provide land

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: registration services. Particularly, the agency shall ensure that at least 93.62 percent of titles

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: will be issued and 95.64 percent of deeds are annotated within 20 days after the submission

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of complete documents. For the National Bureau of Investigation, their 2027 recommended budget

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is 22.34 percent lower at 3.03 billion from 3.9 billion in 2026. For that said 2027 budget,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the NBI should be able to process more than 6.6 million clearance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: applications, of which at least 98 percent should be issued within 10 minutes from receipt of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: requests. The NBI committed to act upon the conduct and conduct at least 50,000 investigations

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: next year. On behalf of the Government Corporate Council, the 2027 recommended budget amounts

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to 310 million, which is 2.21 percent lower than the 316 million budget in 2026. For the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: next year, the OGCC shall ensure that 100 percent of all court pleadings will be filed

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: within the prescribed period and that 82 percent of all contracts will be reviewed and legal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: opinions will be rendered within the prescribed period. For the Office of the Solicitor General,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the 2027 recommended budget is increased to 2.14 billion from 1.9 billion this year, with

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: a positive variance of 13.15 percent in their budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The OSG aims to act upon at least 98 percent of referred cases in 2027, out of which 99

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent are acted upon within 30 days. For resolution of petitions for naturalization,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the OSG intends to resolve 100 percent by the end of the year. For the PPA, the 2027

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recommended budget amounts to 1.25 billion, which is about 3.61 percent lower than the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 1.3 billion approved budget in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With their 2027 NEP-based budget, PPA will ensure that 98.96 percent of clients will

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: be compliant with the terms of their probation and or parole conditions, and that 98.69 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: will participate in its rehabilitation programs.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Presidential Commission on Good Government, their recommended budget under the 2027 NEP

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amounts to 339 million.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 9.35 percent higher than their current-year appropriations of 310 million. For 2027, the PCGG targets at least 846 million of surrendered or sequestered assets to be submitted to the Bureau of the Treasury. For the Public Attorney's Office, its 2027 recommended budget amounts to 7.101 billion, which is

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 6.10 percent higher

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: than its 6.693

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion budget for 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With this recommended budget, the PAO will be able to achieve 83.05 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: favorable judgments for its disposed cases, including appeals, in 2027.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The office will also ensure that all requests for nonjudicial services in 2027 will be acted upon within two hours.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Lastly, for the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027 recommended budget amounts to 139 million, which is 16.27 percent lower than its current year's appropriation.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Despite the reduced funding, the OADR will ensure that 1,880 ADR practitioners and implementers will be trained

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 100% of applications for accreditation will be acted upon in 2027.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This concludes our presentation of the 2027 department-wide budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: At this point, we are ready to address any questions, comments, or requests for clarification the committee may wish to raise.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: We earnestly seek favorable consideration.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: consideration of our budgets as we continue to effectively and efficiently carry out our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: mandates and strengthen the delivery of compassionate and humane justice services.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With your continued support, we remain committed to upholding the rule of law, protecting the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rights of our people and the general public, and advancing justice reforms that are responsible

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to the changing times and the needs of the Filipino people.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Thank you very much for your kind attention.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Usec.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comsec, please acknowledge our additional members who are present here today.

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Committee Secretary: Additional members present: Representative Ann Matibag, Representative Loreto Amante,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Brian Poe, Representative Jonathan Keith Flores, Representative Reynante Arrogancia,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Renee Co, and Representative Allan Ty.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Comsec.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May I remind our distinguished colleagues that each member is given five minutes for

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: questioning or interpellation, excluding the response of the research persons.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And when you hear the bell sound, it means you only have 30 seconds to wind up your questions.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As part of a longstanding and respected tradition of the House of Representatives to accord

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: preferential treatment to the minority.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: treatment to the minority members of the House, followed by the independent

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and majority members in an alternating manner. The Chair now recognizes from the minority,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Dada Kiram Ismula.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Mr. Chair, excuse me.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Good afternoon.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: This is Representative Leila de Lima.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I think you missed my name earlier.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I just want to be registered as present.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Thank you.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Hon. Leila de Lima.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Your presence is acknowledged.

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Committee Secretary: Mr. Chair, Akbayan Representative Perci Cendaña is also present.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Representative Cendaña.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: I would like to acknowledge Representative Iris Montes and Representative Sara Jane

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ilago also.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Representative Dada Ismula, you are now recognized for your interpellation.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um magandang hapon po sa ating mga resource person for today.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um dediretsuhin ko na po kasi may limang minuto lamang kami.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ah Mr. Chair, Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Secretary, thank you for your presentation po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, unang katanungan po, what have been the findings

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: of the DOJ on the reach of nihilistic

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: violent extremism in the Philippines with regards to the school shootings?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Regarding the Tacloban

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: school shooting case in June, may nakasuhan na po

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ba ang may-ari ng baril?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ano po ang ginawa ng inyong ahensya para ma-identify

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang different groups po at ang kanilang

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: next moves? Salamat po.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maraming salamat po. Good afternoon everyone.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, very real-time. As of today,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the owner of the gun in the Tacloban shooting—

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: our local prosecutor's office in Tacloban

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: already issued the resolution indicting the

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: owner of the gun for criminal negligence.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: no so uh second

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: findings that are relevant to our law enforcement agencies.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This has been conveyed and relayed to our law enforcement agencies.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Uh meron po kasi tayong nakikita no na pattern.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I think I discussed this in one of the interviews.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maliban po doon sa mga yung mga naglalaro po yung mga anak natin or yung nagpa-participate

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa games, merong invitation sa kanila to join a separate

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: uh a separate chat room.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung saan ang nakikita po nating pattern, may mga groomers po na tinatawag doon

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: where they are enhanced yung yung level of violence

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung level of getting more points but this is

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: uh on particular details po this is subject of

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ongoing law enforcement activities. But up to that extent,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I can share with you, with the members of the

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: committee, that definitely there's an issue there

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that we need to work on yung mga tinatawag po nilang groomers no

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na uh the exact the exact

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: extent the exact motivation for these groomers inviting

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung mga ano natin kaya ang appeal nga ho namin sa publiko is

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: let's watch our kids let's watch uh people we love

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah regarding yung sa engagement nila in all these games.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Apparently uh benign walang ano walang ano walang ano but but

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: when they are uh invited into these chat rooms no ah

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: doon na po nag-i-start iyong engagement, and this is really disturbing po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Just a follow-up on that, Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na-identify na po ba ninyo kung anong groups ito?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dahil ah nasabi niyo nga po kanina na may mga invitations po na napapadala sa mga chat rooms?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ma'am, if you may, we will just submit a confidential report kasi

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we don't want to stymie any ongoing

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: investigations we're doing and other law enforcement activities we're doing.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, please, Mr. Chair. I would like to receive that report as well, kung okay lang po, Mr. Chair.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission also, the director from the National Bureau of Investigation would add to that.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Good afternoon. May I proceed, Mr. Chair? On that question,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: uh on Wednesday a group from the Philippines will go also to

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Singapore to talk to the meta officials. It will be composed of the office

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of the DICT, the uh office of the executive secretary

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: um and uh myself and also a representative from the office of the speaker.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So this is one of the topics that we will discuss regarding this and in addition

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to what Secretary Vida mentioned we are on track we are naka-surveillance

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po kami dito sa sa grupo na to as early as doon sa event nung Tacloban so we

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we treated it as not an isolated case, but it is designed na

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ganyan talaga na gagawin nila and we monitor that meron pang mga naka-schedule sila

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na mga [unclear] attacks in the coming months. In fact, there is a group chat na mayroon

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sila that uh we used to monitor pero nag-disband sila no so ah

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Also, as the Secretary mentioned, we cannot mention all the details because we are

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: on the point of investigating and looking for the principals nitong group na ito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Chair, maraming salamat, Mr. Secretary and to the NBI director.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um isa na lang po para sa follow-up diyan.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung may na-identify na po kayong mga grupo tungkol dito, maaari ko po

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bang malaman kung itong mga na-identify ninyong group, mayroon na po

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ba dito sa Pilipinas or nagkukuta na rin po ba sila dito sa Pilipinas?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Meron po kaming personalities na na-identify at ah we already know

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung saan but we have to be certain before we do our reactions. Ano po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. Maraming salamat po. Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Chair, I just have one more. Ah, Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Secretary, paano niyo nasisiguro na walang religious

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: profiling or double standard sa magiging ganitong

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: insidente lalo na yung nangyari sa Zamboanga City case

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: recently, especially in sensitive cases like this.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Well, the Department of Justice would be consistent with all this.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po ditong labeling, walang ano.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will just look at where the evidence will lead us.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will look at this uh guided by the Lady Blind Justice.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung ano lang po iyong ebidensya.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala pong dagdag, wala hong kulang doon sa aming gagawin pong imbestigasyon.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana nga po, Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Chair, at gusto ko lamang pong ma-manifest dito na kaming

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mga Muslim we are against extremism and

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: terrorism influencing our children.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But we have to ask DOJ on our law

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: enforcement agencies to ensure that religious

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: profiling is avoided as it could also put

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Muslim communities in danger of human rights violation.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pag Muslim sinasabing terorista pero

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pag Katoliko o iba pang mga relihiyon, hindi sinasabi, di ba?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So sana iniiwasan po natin

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na ma-include yung religion.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Instead of focusing on the religion, let's focus on the problem itself.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi po religion ang problema dito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Anyway, magko-continue po ako, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nagkaroon po kami ng consultations patungkol sa

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: budget at may mga ilang mga katutubo

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang inilapit sa amin ang mga concerns na ito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, may mga reklamo ang ating mga

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: IPs at ICCs na nagkaroon ng

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: overlap ng titles kung saan patuloy pa ring

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nag-i-issue ang LRA ng transfer certificate of titles.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, kahit sa mga

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lupang may certificate of ancestral domain titles

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na in-issue na ng NCIP na nirehistro

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa Registry of Deeds.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Unang katanungan po patungkol dito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um ano ang konkretong hakbang o programa ng

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: LRA upang matigil na ang ganitong overlap?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission, may I ask Administrator Jerry Sirios to respond?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat, Mr. Chair.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Kami po sa

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: LRA ay kamakailan ay nakipag-ugnayan po

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa National Commission on Indigenous Peoples

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa pangunguna ni Chairperson Catamco, and

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: uh kasama rin nilang nagpunta sa amin nung nakaraang

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: linggo ay ang counterpart nila sa BARMM po.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: I think they have a ministry for indigenous peoples po in the BARMMM region.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So kami po ay nakikipag-ugnayan ngayon

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: at kami po ay bumabalangkas ng isang memorandum

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: of agreement upang maayos po ang registration

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ng mga ini-issue na certificate of ancestral domain

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: title and certificate of ancestral land

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: title sa nasasakupang lugar po nila.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano naman po kapag hindi sa BARMM? Other

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: areas that are not in BARMM na nagkakaroon ng problema sa overlapping po?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Kami rin po ay nakikipag-ugnayan

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa, tulad ng nabanggit ko po,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: NCIP and also sa DENR and

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa LMB po upang maiwasan ang overlapping.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ang LRA through the Registry of Deeds ay

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ang huli po sa proseso ng ah issuance ng title.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa amin lang po inirerehistro.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But ang issuance po ng title ay nanggagaling po sa tatlong tanggapan po.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Una, ang DENR sa pamamagitan ng LMB.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Nag-i-issue po ng patents. Pangalawa, sa DAR

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: po na natigil na rin ngayon ang issuance ng mga emancipation patent and CLOA.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And pangatlo po yung NCIP tulad ng

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: nabanggit ko kanina po at ang ikaapat ang judicial titling process.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: kung saan dumadaan sa ating mga korte at kami ay dina-direct upang makipag

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ah makapag-issue ng isang decree at ng titulo.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Pero sa lahat ng proseso po ng pagtitulo, ang LRA po sa

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pamamagitan ng RD ang huling ahensya po na humahawak sa titulo.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige follow up question po Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mayroon po ba kayong specific program diyan sa LRA para tugunan ang ganitong

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: problema at kung sakaling mayroon, magkano naman po ang allocation ninyo sa NEP?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa kasalukuyan po, kami po ay nakikipag-ugnayan tulad ng nabanggit ko. Pero ang solusyon po nito ay ang

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pagkakaroon po ng mga ah applications, programs na makakatulong upang maiwasan ang overlapping.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa kasalukuyan, mayroon po tayong ine-evaluate na public-private partnership, subalit

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: nasa proseso kami ng negotiations. But maliban po

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: dito kami po ay masusing nakikipag-usap na ho sa ibang ahensya upang mailatag

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: po namin yung iba't ibang titles na nai-issue na at malaman kung ano-ano ang mga meron pong overlapping.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, aware po kayo sa JAO No. 1?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Opo.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano pong definition nitong JAO No. 1?

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00:44:08.461 --> 00:44:10.630
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Iyong pong JAO, naabutan ko po ito.

asr-000676
00:44:10.640 --> 00:44:14.190
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ito po ay interagency issuance po.

asr-000677
00:44:14.200 --> 00:44:18.910
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Patungkol po ito, kung hindi po ako nagkakamali, dito po

asr-000678
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.510
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa DAR sa DAR kung saan

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: nagkaroon ng ah

asr-000680
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.790
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ugnayan para makapag-issue po ng mga

asr-000681
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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: titulo ho sa ilalim ng DAR.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. Linawin ko lang, ang JAO No. 1 ay ito iyong mga ahensya na involved patungkol sa

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00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:55.309
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pagbibigay ng titulo sa mga lupain. Kasama na diyan ang NCIP, DENR, DAR, at ang alam ko po ay kasama rin ang LRA dito.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. Now, follow-up question po. Ano po iyong ginagawa ninyo kasalukuyan diyan bilang parte po kayo ng JAO para masiguro na hindi na nagkakaroon ng overlapping dahil itong tatlong ahensya ay hindi nagkakasundo?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Iyong pong JAO No. 1, lumabas po doon ang NCIP. Nagkaroon po tayo ng panibagong pag-uusap sa ilalim ng leadership ng dati nating kalihim ng Katarungan.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Nagkaroon ho ng ugnayan dito pero hindi ho nagbunga sa panibagong usapin ano ho but sa kasalukuyan tinutuloy po namin ang usapin para magkaroon tayo ng konkretong aksyon o policy regarding po itong overlapping of titles po.

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00:45:43.298 --> 00:45:51.990
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Chair, sana nga po magkaroon kayo ng commitment. Kung maaari, ma-commit ninyo rin po ngayon na sana ipagpatuloy

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00:45:52.000 --> 00:46:02.190
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: natin iyong pag-coordinate dito sa mga ahensyang ito, nang sa gayon, pagdating po diyan sa LRA, wala na po siyang problema.

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00:46:02.200 --> 00:46:08.630
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So anyway, dadako naman po ako kasi may 30 seconds na lang po ako. Dadako ako sa isa pang katanungan.

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00:46:08.640 --> 00:46:18.950
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Noong July 16, 2026, nakipagpulong po sa inyo si Datu Rolando Anglao ng Manobo Pulangiyon in Bukidnon.

asr-000692
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:25.710
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ayon sa kanyang pagkaunawa, kayang ilabas ng inyong tanggapan ang

asr-000693
00:46:25.720 --> 00:46:33.349
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: certificate of no overlap o CNO para sa CADT 261 ng Manobo Pulangiyon sa loob ng buwang ito.

asr-000694
00:46:33.359 --> 00:46:43.030
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Batid nating malinis na ang lots 1 at 2 at ang tanging hinahabol ng NCIP ay ang maisama ang lot 3 upang mabuo na ang 1,111 ektarya ng kanilang ancestral domain.

asr-000695
00:46:43.040 --> 00:46:51.473
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya ba ninyong i-issue ang CNO ngayong buwan?

asr-000696
00:46:51.777 --> 00:47:00.670
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ang lilinawin ko lang po, iyong certificate of lot status po, mayroon po kaming dependency rin po sa DENR.

asr-000697
00:47:00.680 --> 00:47:09.563
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Assuming po na makapagbigay po sa amin ng hinihiling naming mga technical description or records from DENR, maaari po naming mailabas iyan.

asr-000698
00:47:11.774 --> 00:47:14.575
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, kaya ninyong maibigay ngayong buwan?

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00:47:14.575 --> 00:47:15.700
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Pipilitin po natin.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. Sige po. At sana nga po, Mr.

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00:47:19.040 --> 00:47:21.829
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Chair ma-providan niyo rin po kami ng update

asr-000702
00:47:21.839 --> 00:47:26.870
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: patungkol diyan kasi last ah budget cycle pa po yan namin fina-follow up.

asr-000703
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.390
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana nga po ay maka-receive kami.

asr-000704
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.197
Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Anyway, Mr. Chair, maraming salamat po.

asr-000705
00:47:31.450 --> 00:47:33.589
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Rep. Ismula.

asr-000706
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:38.950
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Reminder lang iyong mga reports po na hinihingi po ni Representative Ismula.

asr-000707
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.533
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kindly furnish the committee and her office po of the report po.

asr-000708
00:47:47.060 --> 00:47:53.405
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the majority, Representative J.P. Padernos.

asr-000709
00:48:00.430 --> 00:48:05.150
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat sa ating Department of Justice,

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00:48:05.900 --> 00:48:11.210
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: headed by our Secretary Vida, and all attached agencies.

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00:48:11.370 --> 00:48:12.320
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Magandang hapon po.

asr-000712
00:48:15.910 --> 00:48:21.040
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, magtatanong lang po ako per agency para mas concrete.

asr-000713
00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:24.280
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I'll start with the Bureau of Corrections.

asr-000714
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:25.720
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Is DG Katapang here?

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00:48:27.060 --> 00:48:27.220
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ayan.

asr-000716
00:48:27.220 --> 00:48:36.640
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I want to discuss yung facility decongestion and regionalization program ng DOJ.

asr-000717
00:48:37.630 --> 00:48:43.830
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Pangangailangan po kasi ng BUCOR ang humigit kumulang 55 billion para sa regional facilities,

asr-000718
00:48:44.520 --> 00:48:54.610
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: pero 676 million lang po ang capital outlay nito habang nasa 387% ang overcrowding sa NBP.

asr-000719
00:48:54.610 --> 00:48:56.580
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Sa ganitong pondo, paano po?

asr-000720
00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:00.430
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Maabot ang target na full closure ng NBP by 2028?

asr-000721
00:49:01.900 --> 00:49:06.220
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, Congressman Padernos,

asr-000722
00:49:07.740 --> 00:49:11.200
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nabigyan naman po kami ng pondo ng ating gobyerno.

asr-000723
00:49:12.020 --> 00:49:16.330
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag pinagsama-sama, simula ng 2022 hanggang ngayon,

asr-000724
00:49:16.330 --> 00:49:24.330
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sama pa rin yung hopefully maipasa po yung 472 capital outlay for the...

asr-000725
00:49:26.910 --> 00:49:29.430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: maximum security sa [unclear].

asr-000726
00:49:30.090 --> 00:49:33.010
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag sinama-sama po yun, more than 5 billion po yun.

asr-000727
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:43.800
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At ang capacity po na mangyayari na madadagdag is 11,390 additional PDL capacity.

asr-000728
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:51.800
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So itong 2025, nadagdagan tayo ng capacity na 1,000.

asr-000729
00:49:52.120 --> 00:49:54.690
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2026, 2005.

asr-000730
00:49:55.070 --> 00:49:56.790
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2027, 6,000.

asr-000731
00:49:56.890 --> 00:49:57.430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 210.

asr-000732
00:49:58.070 --> 00:49:59.950
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And 2028, 1,600.

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00:50:01.910 --> 00:50:09.870
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Alam po namin na hindi po kayang ibigay lahat ang kailangan namin para lang ma-address yung decongestion.

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00:50:10.670 --> 00:50:19.780
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero ang maganda pong nangyayari, nire-repair po namin yung mga sira naming kulungan at nakakatulong po.

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00:50:20.100 --> 00:50:23.760
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang report po na sinasite nyo is yung last year pa po yan.

asr-000736
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.540
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero ngayon, sa NBP po,

asr-000737
00:50:28.860 --> 00:50:34.440
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: from 350%, ngayon po, 180% na lang ang congestion.

asr-000738
00:50:34.740 --> 00:50:36.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, kaya nga po,

asr-000739
00:50:36.990 --> 00:50:42.630
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iniimbitahan namin kayo para makita nyo kung saan na pupunta yung sinusuporta nyo sa amin.

asr-000740
00:50:42.990 --> 00:50:47.210
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And surely, we will also look for other ways.

asr-000741
00:50:47.410 --> 00:50:50.670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yung aming property po dito sa New Bilibid Prison,

asr-000742
00:50:50.670 --> 00:50:58.220
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Muntinlupa, humihingi po kami ng permission na ipa-lease na.

asr-000744
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:06.240
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi po, yung Muntinlupa po, it should be repurposed.

asr-000745
00:51:06.520 --> 00:51:09.720
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Napaikutan na po kami ng mga first-class subdivision.

asr-000746
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:17.710
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, ang inisip namin ay gamitin ito for better use para tumakbo ang economy.

asr-000747
00:51:17.710 --> 00:51:28.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And hopefully, may mga targets kaming ine-expect na kung mapapa-lease namin ito for the next five years, makaka-generate kami ng 8 billion.

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00:51:28.830 --> 00:51:32.570
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, yung po, ang ginagawa namin.

asr-000750
00:51:32.790 --> 00:51:38.040
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Alam po namin na hindi kaya ng ating gobyerno ibigay lahat ang kailangan ng Bucor.

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00:51:38.200 --> 00:51:41.580
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero, I think we are doing our best.

asr-000752
00:51:41.580 --> 00:51:48.040
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: For the past four years, we have already turned around the congestion problem in Bucor.

asr-000753
00:51:49.590 --> 00:51:52.450
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, napakagandang balita po niyan.

asr-000754
00:51:52.580 --> 00:51:56.160
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So, can you repeat lang, DG Katapang?

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00:51:56.350 --> 00:51:57.750
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Yung from...

asr-000756
00:51:58.330 --> 00:51:58.800
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ilan po?

asr-000757
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:04.590
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: From 387% overcrowding, nasa 187 na lang po?

asr-000758
00:52:04.620 --> 00:52:06.120
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo, sa NBP po.

asr-000759
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:11.050
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi, kailangan po talagang dahan-dahanin ko na ang paglipat.

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00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:17.430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, yung mga napagawa naman natin na outside Metro Manila, doon po sila nililipat.

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00:52:18.190 --> 00:52:26.000
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, but overall, sa buong pagsamasamahin lahat yung ating mga kulungan, 204 na lang po ang congestion rate.

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00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:28.480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Sana lang po, Mr.

asr-000763
00:52:28.520 --> 00:52:33.250
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, tulad po nang nabanggit ko last year sa ating budget deliberation,

asr-000764
00:52:33.810 --> 00:52:44.620
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: let's keep in mind lang po sana yung mga pamilya na siyempre karamihan naman po ng mga nade-detain is from NCR.

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00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:51.690
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So, sana po hindi sila ma-displace in other parts of the country, especially yung sa Palawan po.

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00:52:51.790 --> 00:52:54.990
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Diba, papunta na po doon yung main facility.

asr-000767
00:52:54.990 --> 00:52:57.990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kamakailan po, binigyan po kami ni Governor Umali

asr-000768
00:52:58.560 --> 00:53:01.840
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dito po sa Nueva Ecija

asr-000769
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:12.650
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng 60 hectares. Doon po namin ililipat yung reception and diagnostic center.

asr-000770
00:53:13.030 --> 00:53:22.460
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At yung po rin magiging mga tiga Metro Manila, north of Metro Manila, yung po ang aming target na magiging kulungan nila.

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00:53:22.460 --> 00:53:26.340
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then south of Metro Manila, meron po kami tinitignan na property.

asr-000772
00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:30.510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Magsaswapping po kami ng isang institusyon.

asr-000773
00:53:30.610 --> 00:53:37.600
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May lupa raw sila sa Laguna ng mga 8,000 hectares na hindi naman nila masyadong ginagamit.

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00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:44.880
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And in exchange, bibigyan po namin sila ng 500 hectares sa Palawan para itayo yung kanilang eskwelahan sa Palawan.

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00:53:45.460 --> 00:53:53.330
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, pag nangyari po yun, lahat ng tiga Luzon ay hindi na maililipat sa outside Luzon.

asr-000776
00:53:53.330 --> 00:53:55.570
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yung mga tiga Luzon, sa Luzon ang makakukulong.

asr-000777
00:53:55.570 --> 00:54:04.460
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then lately rin po, yung nakita rin namin na mas marami pa lang tiga Cebu ang mga nakukulong sa Bisaya.

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00:54:04.680 --> 00:54:12.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, we are also coordinating with the governor, the good governor, na bigyan din po kami ng kulungan doon sa lugar

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00:54:12.590 --> 00:54:19.800
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para yung tuloy-tuloy po natin magiging regionalization yung ating mga PDL.

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00:54:20.340 --> 00:54:20.860
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Salamat po.

asr-000781
00:54:21.090 --> 00:54:22.990
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Maraming salamat po, DG Katapang.

asr-000782
00:54:22.990 --> 00:54:23.590
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair.

asr-000783
00:54:23.590 --> 00:54:33.010
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Napansin ko po doon sa report kanina ng ating department, mostly yung kanilang performance indicators,

asr-000784
00:54:33.390 --> 00:54:39.380
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: but wala po dito yung utilization po ng budget from last year.

asr-000785
00:54:40.100 --> 00:54:52.490
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So, maybe we can request our department or the DOJ to provide committee the utilization po ng budget.

asr-000786
00:54:53.650 --> 00:54:55.030
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: As of today po.

asr-000787
00:54:56.660 --> 00:55:01.930
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: If it is available, please furnish Representative Padernos and a copy to the committee.

asr-000788
00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:03.980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, we will furnish, Your Honor.

asr-000789
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, if I may add lang, doon sa decongestion.

asr-000790
00:55:08.470 --> 00:55:10.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dalwa ho to, lutong bibingka.

asr-000791
00:55:10.950 --> 00:55:14.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang isa ho yung nagdadagdag tayo ng facilities, no?

asr-000792
00:55:14.850 --> 00:55:18.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Basically, ang isa pa rin ho, pinabibilis din natin yung release natin.

asr-000793
00:55:18.870 --> 00:55:23.460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Na nagawa na po natin ng medyo maganda na po ang proseso natin.

asr-000794
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Lalo na po yung mga may GCTA nating mga...

asr-000795
00:55:27.420 --> 00:55:30.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Alam naman po natin yung mga kababayan na natin na naligaw ng landas.

asr-000796
00:55:31.370 --> 00:55:34.390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero lahat naman po may opportunity ng second chance.

asr-000797
00:55:34.590 --> 00:55:40.370
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag naka-comply na ho sila doon sa requirements ng batas, mag-comply sila sa GCTA,

asr-000798
00:55:40.990 --> 00:55:45.980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: buong yabang din ho namin pinagmamalaki na ang BUCOR po,

asr-000799
00:55:46.340 --> 00:55:50.440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kakibat ang PAO, kakibat po yung ating PPA,

asr-000800
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakapagpa-release na ho tayo ng...

asr-000801
00:55:52.920 --> 00:56:00.390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: From 2022, 32,932 PDLs.

asr-000802
00:56:00.730 --> 00:56:03.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So kasama po nito, mas mabilis na po natin na pro-proseso.

asr-000803
00:56:05.560 --> 00:56:07.920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Gumamit na rin po tayo dito ng teknolohiya, no?

asr-000804
00:56:08.380 --> 00:56:12.700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So ngayon yung mga karpeta, wala na ho yung pagala-gala o nawawalang karpeta.

asr-000805
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:17.250
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ngayon ho sa BUCOR, lahat po, bago pa lang sila pumasok,

asr-000806
00:56:17.250 --> 00:56:20.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: naka-digitize na ho. May redundancy plan na ho tayo

asr-000807
00:56:20.950 --> 00:56:22.810
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na hindi mawawala yung karpeta.

asr-000808
00:56:22.950 --> 00:56:26.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po, mas na-anticipate na natin.

asr-000809
00:56:26.990 --> 00:56:31.000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At tumataas din yung pag-asa ng ating mga kapatid na nakakulong

asr-000810
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:35.760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na pag ako'y nagbait dito sa loob, makakalaya na ako sa ganitong panahon.

asr-000811
00:56:36.500 --> 00:56:41.170
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, ano ho, dalawang inisyatibo ho,

asr-000812
00:56:41.570 --> 00:56:44.450
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: padamihin yung regional prisons facility natin

asr-000813
00:56:44.450 --> 00:56:49.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at ang isa, pabilisin din yung releases natin dun sa qualified na po.

asr-000814
00:56:49.570 --> 00:56:52.960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi po, ang ayaw po natin ay yung nakakulong,

asr-000815
00:56:52.980 --> 00:56:55.360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakakakuha lang ng abogado ang nare-release.

asr-000816
00:56:55.940 --> 00:56:59.360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dahil sila lang yung nakakapag-file ng writ of habeas corpus.

asr-000817
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po, sa ngayon ho, updated po yung ating releases.

asr-000818
00:57:04.150 --> 00:57:08.570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang target po ng DOJ diyan ay not a day longer.

asr-000819
00:57:09.230 --> 00:57:13.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Not a day longer if, of course, it's not a perfect system.

asr-000820
00:57:13.450 --> 00:57:16.420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We're working on it, we're striving hard para po,

asr-000821
00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:19.500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: not a day longer yung ating pong mga kapatid na PDLs.

asr-000822
00:57:19.660 --> 00:57:22.540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ang dahilan kaya 180% po.

asr-000823
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: As of this time po, pero we're working hard para po

asr-000824
00:57:26.490 --> 00:57:30.670
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: makamit natin yung ideal number po para sa ating mga nakakulong.

asr-000825
00:57:31.690 --> 00:57:33.070
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-000826
00:57:34.270 --> 00:57:38.600
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: For my next question is on, with regard to the ano po,

asr-000827
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:45.570
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I'd also like to request from the DOJ yung ating vacancies in every department,

asr-000828
00:57:45.770 --> 00:57:47.830
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: every agencies, attached agencies,

asr-000829
00:57:47.830 --> 00:57:52.620
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: para po malaman natin saan po ba kailangan na lagyan ng,

asr-000830
00:57:53.300 --> 00:57:55.470
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: ano po yung mga open for applications.

asr-000831
00:57:55.690 --> 00:57:57.330
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Kasi may plantilya na po yung mga yan,

asr-000832
00:57:57.690 --> 00:58:01.050
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: sayang naman po kung hindi ma-fill up yung ating vacancies.

asr-000833
00:58:01.590 --> 00:58:05.020
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mayroon po ba tayong brief report on our vacancies?

asr-000834
00:58:13.060 --> 00:58:15.060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will submit a comprehensive report,

asr-000835
00:58:15.220 --> 00:58:16.940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: but as a summary, Your Honor,

asr-000836
00:58:17.660 --> 00:58:23.360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: out of the 7,651 authorized plantilya positions

asr-000837
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the Office of the Secretary, that's the Department of Justice,

asr-000838
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we have 6,145 filled up.

asr-000839
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:34.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And 1,506 unfilled positions.

asr-000840
00:58:35.860 --> 00:58:43.070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, and we would also be happy to report to you na,

asr-000841
00:58:43.450 --> 00:58:45.490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung nag-start po ng administration na to,

asr-000842
00:58:45.590 --> 00:58:47.930
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: especially po yung mga presidential appointees,

asr-000843
00:58:48.370 --> 00:58:52.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we started with a timeline na almost 2 years, yung mga piskal po natin.

asr-000844
00:58:53.190 --> 00:58:56.810
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Now, with cooperation with DBM and the Office of the President,

asr-000845
00:58:56.810 --> 00:59:00.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na-shorten na po natin to 4 to 5 months po,

asr-000846
00:59:00.490 --> 00:59:03.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung mga piskal po natin, yung mga prosecutor positions.

asr-000847
00:59:04.050 --> 00:59:06.630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we're also happy to report to this committee

asr-000848
00:59:06.630 --> 00:59:09.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that since the start of this administration,

asr-000849
00:59:10.530 --> 00:59:14.370
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from 2,966 prosecutorial position,

asr-000850
00:59:15.210 --> 00:59:19.290
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the DBM has created additional 1,002.

asr-000851
00:59:19.430 --> 00:59:24.360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, we're now 3,968 prosecutorial positions.

asr-000852
00:59:25.080 --> 00:59:27.660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And ang take-up po nito sa public, maganda po.

asr-000853
00:59:27.660 --> 00:59:30.360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Meron po kaming mga posisyon, mga Your Honors,

asr-000854
00:59:30.500 --> 00:59:33.260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: isang posisyon, 103 applicants.

asr-000855
00:59:33.260 --> 00:59:38.700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, we're able to recruit, hopefully, the best and the brightest

asr-000856
00:59:38.700 --> 00:59:44.300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from those in the legal sector so that they join the workforce po

asr-000857
00:59:44.300 --> 00:59:46.440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng ating National Prosecution Service.

asr-000858
00:59:47.560 --> 00:59:48.760
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-000859
00:59:49.720 --> 00:59:55.030
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Gusto ko lang din pong i-discuss yung ating mga petition for review under the DOJ

asr-000860
00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:57.480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: kasi based on my experience,

asr-000861
00:59:57.540 --> 01:00:07.360
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: my experience even before when I was practicing, dun po talaga nagkakaroon ng parang patong-patong

asr-000862
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:14.480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: na kaso. Ano na po bang status doon and paano po na-address ngayon ng ating bagong

asr-000863
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.950
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: kalihim itong problema na to po?

asr-000864
01:00:18.660 --> 01:00:30.590
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, when I assumed as acting secretary November 11, sometime in this year po, early

asr-000865
01:00:30.590 --> 01:00:37.620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: this year, I issued a department circular. Pag nakita ninyo po yung docket namin, total po iyan ng

asr-000866
01:00:37.620 --> 01:00:44.530
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 27,000 sa Office of the Secretary, petitions for review, starting as old as panahon pa po

asr-000867
01:00:44.530 --> 01:00:46.080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ni Secretary Raul Gonzalez.

asr-000868
01:00:47.130 --> 01:00:48.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So what happens?

asr-000869
01:00:48.450 --> 01:00:56.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: What I did, I issued the department circular. So commencing po November 12, 2025, all petitions

asr-000870
01:00:56.310 --> 01:01:02.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for review filed starting November 12, I have delegated, I've given authority to all the

asr-000871
01:01:02.030 --> 01:01:09.120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: undersecretaries to review them and to ensure na 100% ang clearance rate. Ang nakikita po

asr-000872
01:01:09.120 --> 01:01:15.490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: namin, Your Honors, around 200 per week po yung nagpe-petition for review. So around 800

asr-000873
01:01:15.490 --> 01:01:17.480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: per month. With eight undersecretaries.

asr-000874
01:01:18.230 --> 01:01:25.800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang mandate ko po sa kanila is hopefully we clear everything that goes in starting November

asr-000875
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:31.570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 11. Naka-delegate na po sa undersecretaries. Ano naman po ang gagawin ni Secretary ng department

asr-000876
01:01:31.570 --> 01:01:39.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for those pending November 11 and prior years. So nag-cut off po kami ng January 1, 2022-November 11, 2025.

asr-000877
01:01:40.350 --> 01:01:47.200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: November 11, 2025. Yan po yung nasa opisina ko and I have certain task forces helping me

asr-000878
01:01:47.200 --> 01:01:47.500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: out.

asr-000879
01:01:48.020 --> 01:01:53.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: On that, para po ma-resolve siya, ma-resolve siya, different reviewing legal teams po.

asr-000880
01:01:54.510 --> 01:02:04.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And so far po, from those pending from 2020 to 2025, that's around 16,000. That's around

asr-000881
01:02:04.990 --> 01:02:13.070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 16,000 po cases. My office has resolved almost 500 na po thus far. But we continue the work.

asr-000882
01:02:13.070 --> 01:02:14.130
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We continue the work.

asr-000883
01:02:15.340 --> 01:02:17.680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For the older ones, yung prior to 2020.

asr-000884
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:26.800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We also have a... We also issued publications to litigants who are parties to those petitions

asr-000885
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:34.100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for review and we've asked them, basically, to confirm or not to confirm yung interest

asr-000886
01:02:34.100 --> 01:02:41.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sila on those cases yet. And hopefully, by end of this quarter, Your Honors, no? And

asr-000887
01:02:41.910 --> 01:02:46.080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we will gladly share with the committee how we are moving forward with all these cases.

asr-000889
01:02:47.050 --> 01:02:54.140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is basically po, ang tawag nga po sa mga practitioner dyan, pag pumasok daw sa DOJ, parang black hole.

asr-000890
01:02:55.130 --> 01:02:58.110
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hindi na alam kung ano yung nangyari ng petition for review.

asr-000891
01:02:58.110 --> 01:03:04.300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But we're trying to address this because this is a check and balance mechanism sa mga field offices po natin.

asr-000892
01:03:04.860 --> 01:03:08.040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For everyone's information, we have 250 offices nationwide.

asr-000893
01:03:09.330 --> 01:03:15.640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung city prosecutor's office, provincial prosecutor's office, regional prosecutor's office.

asr-000894
01:03:15.640 --> 01:03:21.440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And also the office of the Secretary of Justice Prosecutorial Service, which is in Padre Faura.

asr-000895
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:26.560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of all this, the litigant has a remedy going to the Secretary of Justice.

asr-000896
01:03:26.560 --> 01:03:32.240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we're trying to put up a system here so that we resolve them in time.

asr-000897
01:03:33.100 --> 01:03:38.160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The problem po is, based on time and motion, talaga pong may challenge ang Department of Justice.

asr-000898
01:03:38.740 --> 01:03:43.180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But we cannot naman prohibit filing of these petitions for review.

asr-000899
01:03:43.900 --> 01:03:45.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So it's basically...

asr-000900
01:03:45.430 --> 01:03:52.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It's basically driven din po from the litigants po na nagpa-file ng petitions sa amin.

asr-000901
01:03:52.870 --> 01:03:56.630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But I think, Your Honor, we're in the right direction.

asr-000902
01:03:57.040 --> 01:04:02.290
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hopefully, we improve as the months, as the days go by.

asr-000903
01:04:02.720 --> 01:04:03.140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

asr-000904
01:04:03.750 --> 01:04:04.980
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-000905
01:04:06.820 --> 01:04:12.710
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Pasadaan ko lang po sa ating Bureau of Immigration naman on the status of our e-gates and modernization.

asr-000906
01:04:13.270 --> 01:04:14.700
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ilang e-gates na po bang...

asr-000907
01:04:15.180 --> 01:04:20.840
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ang fully operational ngayon sa Naia, Clark, Mactan, Cebu, at Davao.

asr-000908
01:04:21.310 --> 01:04:27.510
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Anong procurement status po nung natitirang units for Phase 1, 1.976 billion,

asr-000909
01:04:27.510 --> 01:04:30.810
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: at Phase 2, 1.347 billion?

asr-000910
01:04:31.490 --> 01:04:37.320
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: May service level agreement po standards ba tayo sa IT providers natin pag nagka-downtime?

asr-000911
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.920
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: At nakasingil na po ba tayo ng penalties laban sa mga kontraktor?

asr-000912
01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:43.300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, sir.

asr-000913
01:04:43.600 --> 01:04:44.370
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Magandang hapon po.

asr-000914
01:04:44.570 --> 01:04:49.310
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Mr. Chairman and Congressman Padernos and Honorable Members of the House of Representatives.

asr-000915
01:04:50.150 --> 01:04:53.490
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating po sa e-gates po natin, sa Terminal 1 po,

asr-000916
01:04:54.190 --> 01:05:01.450
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang total po currently is 18, 12 para sa arrival, at for departure, 6 na e-gates po.

asr-000917
01:05:01.930 --> 01:05:07.040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Para naman po sa T3, ang arrival po, meron pong tatlumpu, or 30.

asr-000918
01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:09.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa departure po, tatlumpu rin po, or 30.

asr-000919
01:05:10.390 --> 01:05:14.410
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So ang total po sa Terminals 1 and 3 is 78.

asr-000920
01:05:14.710 --> 01:05:23.520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po sa Cebu International—Clark, I'm sorry po—Clark International Airport, meron pong tatlo.

asr-000921
01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:27.390
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Dito naman po sa Mactan Cebu, tatlong rin po.

asr-000922
01:05:27.720 --> 01:05:30.410
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa Davao International Airport, dalawa po.

asr-000923
01:05:31.490 --> 01:05:42.390
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So yun po ang total number po ng e-gates po natin, not only sa T1 and T3, but sa ibang international airports po, sa labas po ng Metro Manila.

asr-000924
01:05:42.390 --> 01:05:44.400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon, pagdating naman po sa...

asr-000925
01:05:44.860 --> 01:05:48.480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: status po nung ating e-gates project,

asr-000926
01:05:51.120 --> 01:05:57.730
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yun pong sa Phase 1, na awarded po nung 2025, 1.5 billion po yun.

asr-000927
01:05:58.330 --> 01:06:01.170
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Continuing po ang aming procurement, Your Honor.

asr-000928
01:06:01.570 --> 01:06:05.430
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nakatipid po tayo doon sa intended budget na 1.9 billion, ng 400 million.

asr-000929
01:06:06.210 --> 01:06:09.070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po sa Phase 2 po ng proyekto,

asr-000930
01:06:09.890 --> 01:06:14.610
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang terms of reference po para dito sa Phase 2 ng proyekto, worth 1.3 billion,

asr-000931
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:16.480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: underway na po sa Departamento.

asr-000932
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:21.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The Department of Justice, yung pong listahan po ng mga terms of reference.

asr-000933
01:06:22.130 --> 01:06:25.460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po sa Phase 3, 565 million po yun.

asr-000934
01:06:26.090 --> 01:06:32.920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang commitment po namin, at we're on track, na on budget po for 2025, meron po kaming catch-up plan,

asr-000935
01:06:33.100 --> 01:06:36.200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: magiging fully obligated na po by November 2026.

asr-000936
01:06:36.640 --> 01:06:40.220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasama na po dyan yung sa e-gates Phase 1 project.

asr-000937
01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:46.930
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At ang Phase 2 po ng e-gates project, worth 1.3 billion, magiging fully obligated na rin po by November.

asr-000938
01:06:46.950 --> 01:06:52.210
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As a matter of fact, Your Honor, we have been conducting weekly meetings

asr-000939
01:06:52.210 --> 01:06:58.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para po malaman ng ahensya kung ano na po ang status ng ating proyekto.

asr-000940
01:06:59.850 --> 01:07:03.570
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po, Your Honor, sa service agreements, meron po tayong service agreements,

asr-000941
01:07:03.690 --> 01:07:05.280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but those are constantly under review.

asr-000942
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:20.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasama po sa service agreements, hinihingi po namin ng commitment sa mapuprovide po dito ng mga kumpanya, Your Honors.

asr-000943
01:07:24.900 --> 01:07:27.730
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Follow-up question lang po.

asr-000944
01:07:28.900 --> 01:07:31.770
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So okay na po lahat. So kailan po matatapos yung Phase 2?

asr-000945
01:07:32.340 --> 01:07:38.350
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Phase 2 po, matatapos po by November 2026. Fully obligated na po yan by that time.

asr-000946
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:43.070
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So I'd just like to commend, Mr. Chair, yung efforts po ng ating Bureau of Immigration.

asr-000947
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:50.060
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: If you notice, ating mga kababayan, mas mabilis na ngayon yung proseso pag nasa airport.

asr-000948
01:07:50.060 --> 01:07:53.050
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Of course, with their partnership also with...

asr-000949
01:07:54.470 --> 01:07:55.660
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Airport operator.

asr-000950
01:07:56.300 --> 01:08:00.940
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Sa ano naman po ako, sa PCGG po. Saan po ba ang PCGG?

asr-000951
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:04.430
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Nandiyan po ba ang PCGG?

asr-000953
01:08:05.010 --> 01:08:05.230
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ayan.

asr-000954
01:08:05.230 --> 01:08:05.400
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Justice.

asr-000955
01:08:06.090 --> 01:08:06.670
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Justice po.

asr-000956
01:08:06.670 --> 01:08:13.790
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, gusto ko lang po sanang itanong. What is the current budget vis-a-vis total remittance of PCGG?

asr-000957
01:08:13.790 --> 01:08:16.990
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: And with that contribution, they have a specific...

asr-000958
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:25.650
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Does PCGG have a specific proposal which will not entail additional funding from Congress?

asr-000959
01:08:28.060 --> 01:08:36.800
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Mr. Chair, members of the committee, thank you for this opportunity.

asr-000960
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:54.290
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Just for historical context, your honors, in the past 40 years, the PCGG has recovered a total amount of 183 billion in cash,

asr-000961
01:08:54.290 --> 01:08:57.210
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: 125 billion in assets.

asr-000962
01:08:57.270 --> 01:09:09.080
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: And as of now, during the current administration, the PCGG was able to recover

asr-000963
01:09:09.080 --> 01:09:20.770
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: 8.3 billion worth of assets. As far as budget is concerned, historically, the budget of

asr-000964
01:09:20.770 --> 01:09:28.520
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: the PCGG has always been below 200 million. So, given that we have already, that it has

asr-000965
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:38.410
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: remitted 8.3 billion during the current administration, I would say that the budget of PCGG was really

asr-000966
01:09:38.410 --> 01:09:43.410
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: given us good returns.

asr-000967
01:09:48.200 --> 01:09:51.600
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Maraming salamat po. Meron pa po kayong maidadagdag?

asr-000968
01:09:52.740 --> 01:09:58.890
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: The additional funding from Congress.

asr-000969
01:09:59.110 --> 01:09:59.490
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ano po iyon?

asr-000970
01:10:00.320 --> 01:10:13.630
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: We have a bigger budget now, Your Honors, because PCGG will start paying rent for office

asr-000971
01:10:13.630 --> 01:10:21.680
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: space. Because before, our office space was free. As one of the conditions, when we sold

asr-000972
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:28.270
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: an asset, which is in front of Mega Mall along EDSA, we sold that for 800 million pesos.

asr-000973
01:10:28.270 --> 01:10:35.670
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: And the buyer was San Miguel. And they have a building, which we are now occupying, and

asr-000974
01:10:35.670 --> 01:10:39.450
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: they gave us a part of the building for occupation.

asr-000976
01:10:40.160 --> 01:10:47.160
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Quick manifestation na lang, Mr. Chair. So, base naman po sa report

asr-000977
01:10:47.160 --> 01:10:54.280
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: ng ating DOJ, res ipsa loquitur. The numbers speak for themselves. Case disposition rate

asr-000978
01:10:54.280 --> 01:10:56.330
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: po, napakataas, 99%.

asr-000979
01:10:56.490 --> 01:11:05.210
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ang success rate nila ng prosecution, also 90 plus percent. And lahat po ng ating mga

asr-000980
01:11:05.210 --> 01:11:14.480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: performance indicators, it would appear na the DOJ is really doing their job and exceeding

asr-000981
01:11:14.480 --> 01:11:22.710
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: our expectation. So, with that said, I would like to manifest my full support for the proposed

asr-000982
01:11:22.710 --> 01:11:26.320
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: budget. Actually, edit po natin yan.

asr-000983
01:11:27.270 --> 01:11:33.650
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I manifest that not just my full support for the proposed budget of the Department of

asr-000984
01:11:33.650 --> 01:11:40.520
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Justice, but also the increase of its budget, especially for the NBI and BI, kasi nakita ko

asr-000985
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:48.480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: po ang NBI at BI, 33 percent and 27 percent decrease. Meron po ba tayong brief lang na

asr-000986
01:11:48.480 --> 01:11:56.050
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: explanation kung bakit po nabawasan ng sobrang taas yung dalawang agencies na yan? But with

asr-000987
01:11:56.050 --> 01:11:58.020
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: that said, yun lang po, Mr. Chair.

asr-000988
01:11:59.660 --> 01:12:08.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I believe this would be relative to the absorptive capacity ng agency. This was, of course, this

asr-000989
01:12:08.910 --> 01:12:13.570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is the DBM's call, no? But it was assessed by the DBM yung absorptive capacity of the

asr-000990
01:12:13.570 --> 01:12:19.320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: two agencies. That's why we have catch-up plans for 2026, so that they are able to cope

asr-000991
01:12:19.320 --> 01:12:24.300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the budget releases for the two respective agencies. But thank you very much, Your Honor,

asr-000992
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:25.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the support.

asr-000993
01:12:25.530 --> 01:12:26.310
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-000994
01:12:26.510 --> 01:12:33.550
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Representative Padernos. And may we direct the ComSec to acknowledge additional

asr-000995
01:12:33.550 --> 01:12:35.960
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: members who are present?

asr-000996
01:12:37.160 --> 01:12:45.580
Committee Secretary: Additional members present: Representative Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr., Representative Alyssa Michaela "Mica" Gonzales,

asr-000997
01:12:45.580 --> 01:12:52.030
Committee Secretary: Representative Robert Nazal, Representative Ma. Cristina Talavera-Lopez, Representative Salvador

asr-000998
01:12:52.030 --> 01:12:55.830
Committee Secretary: Pleyto, Representative Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai,

asr-000999
01:12:55.830 --> 01:12:56.860
Committee Secretary: Representative Ferdinand Hernandez.

asr-001000
01:12:56.860 --> 01:12:59.940
Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-001001
01:13:00.580 --> 01:13:06.770
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you. Next in line to interpellate from the minority, Representative Chel Diokno.

asr-001002
01:13:08.380 --> 01:13:14.180
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Maraming salamat po, Chair Mike, at magandang hapon po sa DOJ family.

asr-001003
01:13:14.200 --> 01:13:20.820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Sisimulan ko po sa isang letter C. Hindi po ito Chel, kundi corruption ang dapat nating

asr-001004
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:22.220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: pag-usapan.

asr-001005
01:13:22.240 --> 01:13:27.380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I noticed that there was a recent article attributed to the DOJ.

asr-001006
01:13:27.400 --> 01:13:32.780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: which stated that the over 841 million pesos

asr-001007
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:39.140
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay naibalik na sa ating treasury from flood control projects.

asr-001008
01:13:39.160 --> 01:13:45.500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Mula sa apat na nasangkot sa flood control cases na naging state witness,

asr-001009
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:52.420
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I think this would refer to Henry Alcantara, former USEC Bernardo, 500 million,

asr-001010
01:13:52.440 --> 01:14:02.380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Henry Alcantara, 181 million, Engineer Opulencia, 140 million, and Sally Santos, 20 million.

asr-001011
01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:06.620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Una ko pong tanong kay Secretary Vida, good morning po.

asr-001012
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:09.290
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Voluntary po itong pagbabalik nila?

asr-001013
01:14:09.310 --> 01:14:11.080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo, voluntary po ito.

asr-001014
01:14:11.100 --> 01:14:16.900
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Meron bang na-file na mga forfeiture cases against any of these four individuals

asr-001015
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:21.860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: to ensure na baka naman meron pa silang tinatago na hindi pa nila binibigay

asr-001016
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:24.550
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: o binabalik sa gobyerno?

asr-001017
01:14:24.570 --> 01:14:30.860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, kaakibat po ito sa kondisyon nung kanilang pagpasok bilang state witness, Your Honor.

asr-001018
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:35.100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At sa ngayon nga po, nagagamit sila ngayon ng Office of the Ombudsman

asr-001019
01:14:35.120 --> 01:14:42.260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa patuloy na paglilitis ng mga kasong nakasalang ngayon sa Sandiganbayan at sa RTC.

asr-001020
01:14:42.280 --> 01:14:47.660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po ang patuloy nilang pagganap dun sa terms and conditions

asr-001021
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:51.500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng kanilang pagiging state witness, ito po ang kabahagi nun.

asr-001022
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:52.340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

asr-001023
01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:55.820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Did you rely just on their word, or did you also

asr-001024
01:14:55.840 --> 01:15:02.540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: coordinate with AMLA, get bank secrecy waivers, and do other checking

asr-001025
01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:08.220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: para masiguro natin na lahat ng sinasabi nilang ibinalik ay yun na po yun?

asr-001026
01:15:08.240 --> 01:15:14.820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang naging estratehiya po niyan para makita po yung mga commitment nilang amounts,

asr-001027
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:22.660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: tandaan po natin, paalala lang po pala, yung pagiging state witness nila ay case-specific lang ho.

asr-001028
01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:25.940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya yung kanilang immunity, dun sa kasong yun lang ho.

asr-001029
01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:33.340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya yung may disclosure sila na sila kesyo ay may kinita dun sa project na yun,

asr-001030
01:15:33.360 --> 01:15:35.340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yun lamang po sila absuwelto.

asr-001031
01:15:35.360 --> 01:15:41.580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po pag may nadiskubre ang Office of the Ombudsman, ang DOJ, o kung ano mang ahensya,

asr-001032
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na ibang bagay na sila'y sangkot pa rin, hindi ho yun saklaw.

asr-001033
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:50.420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po ang atin po, tinakda po natin yung pagtatalaga nung amount na to,

asr-001034
01:15:50.440 --> 01:15:55.500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nagsimula pa po ito panahon ni Secretary, now Ombudsman, Boying Remulla,

asr-001035
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:58.140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na project-specific lang.

asr-001036
01:15:58.160 --> 01:16:03.460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sinabi nyo lang na kayo ay sangkot at kayo ay involved,

asr-001037
01:16:03.480 --> 01:16:07.020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pero yung immunity mo, dun lang sa particular na project na yun.

asr-001038
01:16:07.040 --> 01:16:11.420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya pag may nakita po tayo, tingin ko ho, protektado ang bayan dito.

asr-001039
01:16:11.440 --> 01:16:15.260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag may nakita ho tayo sa apat na to, sa kanilang apat na individual,

asr-001040
01:16:15.280 --> 01:16:20.100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na walang disclosure o may tinago sa atin, pwede pa ho natin silang habulin dun.

asr-001041
01:16:20.120 --> 01:16:23.940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, iba po yung sa pananaw ng Office of the Ombudsman.

asr-001042
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:25.620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Iba pong usapin.

asr-001043
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:29.640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa amin po, yung pagiging state witness sila under the Witness Protection Program.

asr-001044
01:16:29.660 --> 01:16:31.820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you, Secretary Vida.

asr-001045
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:38.140
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Doon sa very impressive yung inyong report, lalong-lalo na yung tinatawag ninyong

asr-001046
01:16:38.160 --> 01:16:40.700
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: prosecutorial success rate, or PSR,

asr-001047
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:46.100
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: na ngayon na taon na ito, o 2025, ay nasa 90.8%.

asr-001048
01:16:46.120 --> 01:16:54.620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Do you have a figure for your PSR for graft and corruption cases?

asr-001049
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:55.300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kasi yun na yun po

asr-001050
01:16:55.320 --> 01:16:57.620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ang tinututukan ng taong bayan ngayon.

asr-001051
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:01.860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Gusto naming malaman kung yung mga graft and corruption cases ba

asr-001052
01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:06.220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: nabibigyan ng top priority ng ating pamahalaan.

asr-001053
01:17:06.240 --> 01:17:11.440
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Karamihan ba ng mga nasasangkot ay nakakasuhan at nako-convict?

asr-001054
01:17:11.460 --> 01:17:18.340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo, opo, Your Honor. We need to disaggregate our data, yung available po sa amin.

asr-001055
01:17:18.360 --> 01:17:23.380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we will submit to the committee, Your Honors, if you may.

asr-001056
01:17:23.400 --> 01:17:25.940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need to disaggregate yung data namin.

asr-001057
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:30.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And of course, this data doesn't involve cases handled by the Office of the Ombudsman.

asr-001058
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:31.780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Yes.

asr-001059
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:34.580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: In fact, I'll go back to that point later.

asr-001060
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:41.140
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: But I'm just curious, because in 2022, when Secretary, now Ombudsman, Remulla

asr-001061
01:17:41.160 --> 01:17:44.300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: occupied the Office of Secretary of Justice,

asr-001062
01:17:44.320 --> 01:17:49.420
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: nabanggit niya na ang conviction rate, hindi po ito PSR, kundi conviction rate,

asr-001063
01:17:49.440 --> 01:17:51.380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay nasa 25% lang.

asr-001064
01:17:51.400 --> 01:17:54.620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: In fact, he expressed dismay over it.

asr-001065
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:55.340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Now,

asr-001066
01:17:55.360 --> 01:17:58.500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: your figure of 90% is very impressive,

asr-001067
01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:04.220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: but it may give the wrong impression to the public

asr-001068
01:18:04.240 --> 01:18:08.540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: that we have already overcome our issues with convictions.

asr-001069
01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:15.500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: So, may I know, does the DOJ keep a separate tab on conviction rate aside from PSR?

asr-001070
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:20.580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: O na-abandonan po ninyo yan?

asr-001071
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:22.860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, hindi po namin.

asr-001072
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:26.740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The prosecution success rate, mix po ito.

asr-001073
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:35.060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung conviction ng kaso, kasama na rin po dito yung tinatawag po na nagkaroon po ng compromise agreement.

asr-001074
01:18:35.080 --> 01:18:42.420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And based on that compromise, nagkaroon pa rin ng hatol yung husgado sa isang particular na kaso.

asr-001075
01:18:42.440 --> 01:18:44.060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung pumapasok.

asr-001076
01:18:44.080 --> 01:18:51.260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero batid po namin, yung 20%, if I recall it right, that would be more particular po.

asr-001077
01:18:51.280 --> 01:18:57.060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung frustration po ni Secretary Boying at the time was more in the drug cases.

asr-001078
01:18:57.080 --> 01:19:11.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung after po, yung after nung 2022, na lumabas na po yung mga tunay na proseso na kahit fiscal ka o judge ka,

asr-001079
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:19.500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na nag-dismiss ka ng kaso base sa ebidensya, hindi ka li-labelan na protector ng droga.

asr-001080
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:24.940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tapos, ang isa pa rin ho, ito po yung pagtataas namin nung antas, yung from probable cause,

asr-001081
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:29.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: tinaas po ng DOJ, yung antas po ng ebidensya na kailangan natin ngayon,

asr-001082
01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:35.140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung prima facie evidence with reasonable certainty of conviction.

asr-001083
01:19:35.160 --> 01:19:45.020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang isa pong nakikita naming ehemplo dito ay yung sa, pag nakita po natin yung mga sa United States po,

asr-001084
01:19:45.040 --> 01:19:47.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang taas po ng kanilang plea bargaining.

asr-001085
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:54.700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dahil pag plea bargaining, mas mabilis po ang proseso, mas maliit ang resources ng gobyerno.

asr-001086
01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:57.540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, dahil matitibay yung kasong fina-file.

asr-001087
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:05.120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we see ho the benefit now of our case buildup, Your Honors, with the data we're getting.

asr-001088
01:20:05.140 --> 01:20:12.340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Tama po ba, Secretary Vida, na pagdating sa prosecutorial success rate,

asr-001089
01:20:12.360 --> 01:20:16.820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: hindi po kasama doon sa computation yung mga nadi-dismiss na kaso

asr-001090
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:21.220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: dahil let's say, hindi dumating yung mga testigo, let's say drug case,

asr-001091
01:20:21.240 --> 01:20:24.300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: yung mga pulis na dapat humarap ay hindi humarap,

asr-001092
01:20:24.320 --> 01:20:27.820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: kaya nadismiss na agad ang kaso.

asr-001093
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:29.810
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Is that captured by the PSR?

asr-001094
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:46.730
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Is that captured?

asr-001095
01:20:48.220 --> 01:20:49.820
DOJ representative: Not captured in the data.

asr-001096
01:20:52.240 --> 01:20:55.250
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need to check. We will submit, Your Honor.

asr-001097
01:20:55.270 --> 01:20:57.200
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Well, yeah, yeah.

asr-001098
01:20:57.320 --> 01:21:01.180
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kasi the data would seem to be parang...

asr-001099
01:21:01.200 --> 01:21:03.820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kaya ako po tinatanong yung, Secretary,

asr-001100
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:09.300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay dahil sa experience ko, hindi lang sa drug cases, pati na rin sa corruption cases.

asr-001101
01:21:09.320 --> 01:21:12.340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Yung isang lusot na ginagamit ng mga corrupt at ng

asr-001102
01:21:12.360 --> 01:21:19.940
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: mga criminal, ay they will influence, intimidate, or purchase the witnesses for the prosecution,

asr-001103
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:24.180
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: hindi na sila haharap, at kung hindi naka-capture yan ng PSR,

asr-001104
01:21:24.200 --> 01:21:28.340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: then malaking bagay po iyon na hindi natin namo-monitor,

asr-001105
01:21:28.360 --> 01:21:33.710
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: which I think is very important for the DOJ to monitor.

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01:21:33.730 --> 01:21:35.660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Completely agree with that, Your Honor.

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01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:37.240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will do that, Your Honor.

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01:21:37.260 --> 01:21:39.060
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

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01:21:39.080 --> 01:21:42.740
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I think I have a minute and 18 seconds left.

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01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:46.420
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Nabanggit niyo kanina na hindi lang naman ninyo trabaho yung anti-corruption,

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01:21:46.440 --> 01:21:48.340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: and tama-tama po kayo doon.

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01:21:48.360 --> 01:21:54.540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: It's also the job of the Office of the Ombudsman, as well as the Anti-Money Laundering Council, among others.

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01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kayo po ba ay nag-uusap?

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01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:05.580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Do you have a coordination committee or anything like that that discusses, for example, budget that all of you need,

asr-001115
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:10.620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: that discusses things that are needed by the government,

asr-001116
01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:11.700
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: beyond yung particular...

asr-001117
01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.900
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: department po ninyo, DOJ?

asr-001118
01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:18.020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: What we have now, our engagement with the Office of the Ombudsman,

asr-001119
01:22:18.040 --> 01:22:21.500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is an existing memorandum of agreement

asr-001120
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: relative to investigation of cases and filing of cases

asr-001121
01:22:25.480 --> 01:22:29.540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for those salary grade 27 and above

asr-001122
01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:32.380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the Office of the Ombudsman and those below

asr-001123
01:22:32.400 --> 01:22:35.340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to be handled by the Department of Justice.

asr-001124
01:22:35.360 --> 01:22:39.620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang isa pa ho naming engagement with the Office of the Ombudsman now is

asr-001125
01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:44.340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the possibility of coming up with a code on anti-corruption.

asr-001126
01:22:44.360 --> 01:22:52.300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This would basically be seeing the learnings that we saw in the recent past,

asr-001127
01:22:52.320 --> 01:22:58.540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kung paano natin talaga mas mapapatibay yung mga batas natin on anti-corruption.

asr-001128
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We have an ongoing engagement on that.

asr-001129
01:23:01.040 --> 01:23:03.460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We have a technical working group, Your Honors,

asr-001130
01:23:03.480 --> 01:23:07.980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on possibly doing work on possible legislation

asr-001131
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on coming up with a code on anti-corruption, Your Honors.

asr-001132
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:15.020
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: So bale, sa kasalukuyan ay ad hoc lang po

asr-001133
01:23:15.040 --> 01:23:19.780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ang pakikipag-usap ninyo ng AMLA at ng OMB.

asr-001134
01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:25.860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kaya ako tinatanong yan, because way back in, I think it was 2006,

asr-001135
01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:32.300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I was informed, I learned that there was a study made of the corruption cases

asr-001136
01:23:32.320 --> 01:23:37.380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: that went through the Sandiganbayan, at ang nalaman po nila noon

asr-001137
01:23:37.400 --> 01:23:43.300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay out of 110 persons convicted of graft and corruption cases,

asr-001138
01:23:43.320 --> 01:23:51.340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: sa sampu lang, only 10 were found to have been actually inside the jail serving their sentence.

asr-001139
01:23:51.360 --> 01:23:56.380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Ito po yung mga convicted of graft and corruption by final judgment.

asr-001140
01:23:56.400 --> 01:24:01.860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Now, is there, to your knowledge, may I just finish my question, Mr. Chair?

asr-001141
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:06.540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: To your knowledge, is there any centralized system or database

asr-001142
01:24:06.560 --> 01:24:14.100
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: of the government that is there to keep track na kung yung isang tao ay na-convict ng graft and corruption?

asr-001143
01:24:14.120 --> 01:24:23.540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kahit sabihin natin, ibang mga criminal cases, at in-appeal niya yung kanyang conviction,

asr-001144
01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:29.820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: later na-affirm yung kanyang conviction, namu-monitor ba natin kung talagang nakukulong yung nakonvict?

asr-001145
01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:35.660
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kaya ako po, let me just finish. The reason I ask is because not one agency can keep track of this.

asr-001146
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:43.660
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Hindi kaya ng DOJ yan, hindi kaya ng Ombudsman, hindi kaya ng NBP or ng ating nasa DILG.

asr-001147
01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:49.780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: So, shouldn't there be a consolidated effort by our government?

asr-001148
01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:56.780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Because sayang naman yung milyong-milyones na ginagastos niyo pang-prosecute ng isang tao kung hindi naman pala nakukulong?

asr-001149
01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:57.340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Hindi po ba?

asr-001150
01:24:57.360 --> 01:25:04.380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, I completely agree po. Sa particular directive or legal framework should be brought out

asr-001152
01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:12.420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that those... I completely agree, Your Honor. Ang isa po namin, from our end, which I've initiated po,

asr-001153
01:25:12.440 --> 01:25:23.180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we just had a meeting with my regional prosecutors and si PG Dong, is basically to monitor yung mga sinampahan namin ng kaso,

asr-001154
01:25:23.200 --> 01:25:32.940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: alin yung mga naka-archive doon, dahil at large yung mga akusado. That's something we can look within the DOJ.

asr-001155
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:37.580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po, nasa poder ko po yun. Pero I completely agree with you, Your Honor.

asr-001156
01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:45.420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need to look at yung mga convictions, kung sino talaga yung nahatulan ng sentensya at nakakulong.

asr-001157
01:25:45.440 --> 01:25:52.580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you so much, Secretary Vida. Sana kayo po ang maging pambato nitong talagang kinakailangan natin pagdating sa corruption.

asr-001158
01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:55.160
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you so much, Chair Mike.

asr-001159
01:25:55.180 --> 01:26:02.000
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po, Representative Chel Diokno. Next in line from the majority, Representative Brian Poe.

asr-001160
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:11.270
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'd like to start with some questions for the NBI.

asr-001161
01:26:11.270 --> 01:26:26.060
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, I want to ask the NBI, if the NBI has any funding for representatives or attaches in embassies abroad.

asr-001162
01:26:26.060 --> 01:26:34.510
Rep. Brian Poe: Based on RA 10867, Section 7F, the NBI is allowed to have an attaché or representative.

asr-001164
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:41.900
Rep. Brian Poe: However, the funding, according to the law, must come from the NBI.

asr-001165
01:26:41.900 --> 01:26:47.180
Rep. Brian Poe: I want to ask if in this year's budget, is there an allocation for the NBI?

asr-001166
01:26:47.400 --> 01:26:57.740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Wala po. And I'm very thankful that you raised that issue because that is one of the future plans that the NBI is looking at,

asr-001167
01:26:57.740 --> 01:27:02.430
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that we put NBI attachés in at least yung selected po muna na mga areas.

asr-001168
01:27:02.430 --> 01:27:04.310
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Because dito po sa atin, sa Pilipinas.

asr-001169
01:27:04.310 --> 01:27:11.830
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung mga embassies from Europe and the U.S. Embassy itself, meron po silang mga counterparts.

asr-001170
01:27:11.830 --> 01:27:14.650
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: It's been helping us to address transnational crimes.

asr-001171
01:27:14.650 --> 01:27:17.470
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So thank you for raising that issue.

asr-001172
01:27:17.470 --> 01:27:22.170
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And kasama po sana sa wish list namin iyan na mapalagay po.

asr-001173
01:27:22.170 --> 01:27:27.810
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And I'll take advantage also to request because we want to increase the number of agents.

asr-001174
01:27:27.810 --> 01:27:31.560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Because if we will comply with that, we need additional agents.

asr-001175
01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:36.260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Right now, for the benefit of this committee po and everybody,

asr-001176
01:27:36.260 --> 01:27:43.780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I'd like to tell you that ang NBI agents po namin sa buong Pilipinas is only about 300 persons lang po.

asr-001177
01:27:45.660 --> 01:27:50.580
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, this is quite alarming, no?

asr-001178
01:27:50.580 --> 01:27:59.430
Rep. Brian Poe: Na our NBI doesn't have funding for any international agents or representatives to be attached to any of our embassies.

asr-001179
01:27:59.430 --> 01:28:01.390
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, if I could remind the committee.

asr-001180
01:28:01.390 --> 01:28:05.330
Rep. Brian Poe: If I could remind the committee of all the responsibilities of the NBI going after

asr-001181
01:28:05.330 --> 01:28:12.210
Rep. Brian Poe: POGOs, scam networks, cyber fraud, online gambling, Interpol cases, human trafficking,

asr-001182
01:28:12.210 --> 01:28:16.150
Rep. Brian Poe: online sexual exploitation of children, the list goes on.

asr-001183
01:28:16.150 --> 01:28:22.050
Rep. Brian Poe: And yet we haven't given a single centavo for a single attaché representative abroad.

asr-001184
01:28:22.050 --> 01:28:25.000
Rep. Brian Poe: That's absolutely ridiculous, Mr. Chair.

asr-001185
01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:30.900
Rep. Brian Poe: And I feel that it's something that we should look into as we continue on this.

asr-001186
01:28:30.900 --> 01:28:34.830
Rep. Brian Poe: This deliberation on the appropriations for the Department of Justice.

asr-001187
01:28:34.830 --> 01:28:42.700
Rep. Brian Poe: Because, as our colleague here Representative Chel Diokno was saying about accountability and investigation,

asr-001188
01:28:42.700 --> 01:28:50.560
Rep. Brian Poe: how are we supposed to go after international fugitives if we don't even have funding for NBI representatives abroad?

asr-001189
01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:56.460
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, I feel that this is one thing that we should take into consideration for this budget season.

asr-001190
01:28:56.460 --> 01:28:59.410
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, NBI Director po.

asr-001191
01:29:00.400 --> 01:29:09.250
Rep. Brian Poe: Next is I'd like to ask about what we're doing for our kababayans who don't have access to legal aid.

asr-001192
01:29:09.250 --> 01:29:16.130
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe meron tayong, and we were able to fund it last year, I believe, around 8 million pesos more or less

asr-001193
01:29:16.130 --> 01:29:22.030
Rep. Brian Poe: for the DOJ Action Center or yung tinatawag natin Katarungan Caravan.

asr-001194
01:29:22.030 --> 01:29:29.900
Rep. Brian Poe: Based on my numbers, and correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Secretary, you're currently at around 15,000 people who have been

asr-001195
01:29:29.900 --> 01:29:31.870
Rep. Brian Poe: served so far in 2026.

asr-001196
01:29:31.870 --> 01:29:37.770
Rep. Brian Poe: This is well on its way to surpassing the numbers from last year of 25,000 served.

asr-001197
01:29:37.770 --> 01:29:38.750
Rep. Brian Poe: Is this correct?

asr-001198
01:29:39.730 --> 01:29:41.700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-001199
01:29:41.700 --> 01:29:44.660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Basically, this is the access to legal services.

asr-001200
01:29:44.660 --> 01:29:52.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But of course, the primary agency is the Public Attorney's Office, na nagpapasalamat kami.

asr-001201
01:29:52.550 --> 01:29:56.490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero nakita po natin kasi yung puwang sa serbisyo.

asr-001202
01:29:56.900 --> 01:30:06.170
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At siguro, ang lagi ko hong binibigay niyan—I was interviewed—bakit naging verb yung Tulfo?

asr-001203
01:30:06.900 --> 01:30:14.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Ipapa-Tulfo kita.' And I give credit to the Tulfo siblings kasi meron pong kulang na serbisyo.

asr-001204
01:30:14.740 --> 01:30:21.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At ito po yung pilit na pinupunuan. Kabahagi po dito yung DOJ Katarungan Caravan.

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01:30:21.470 --> 01:30:30.740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa atin pong pag-ikot sa buong Pilipinas para ilapit yung serbisyo on legal services sa ating mga kababayan,

asr-001206
01:30:30.860 --> 01:30:34.640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakita natin na meron talagang puwang na pwedeng punuan.

asr-001207
01:30:35.290 --> 01:30:42.180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero para ho maging resilient at saka maging permanent po yung sistema ng serbisyo,

asr-001208
01:30:43.300 --> 01:30:49.850
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang plano po natin ay, maliban na lang siya na parang ad hoc o task force, yung DOJ Katarungan Caravan

asr-001209
01:30:49.850 --> 01:30:53.220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: maging permanente ito sa bawat opisina ng DOJ.

asr-001210
01:30:53.930 --> 01:31:00.360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung sa ating 250 prosecutorial offices nationwide na na-establish.

asr-001211
01:31:00.500 --> 01:31:06.000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang pinipilit po namin ngayon ay mag-set up kami ng protocols on this legal service

asr-001212
01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:12.960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para po yung bawat opisina sa bawat probinsya, sa bawat city at sa bawat region

asr-001213
01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:18.240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay may madudulugan na yung ating mga kababayan. Yung serbisyo,

asr-001214
01:31:19.430 --> 01:31:20.650
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung puwang na iyon na free legal service.

asr-001215
01:31:21.340 --> 01:31:24.650
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya nga po sa pagdedesign namin ng mga opisina ngayon, Your Honor,

asr-001216
01:31:25.230 --> 01:31:31.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pinipilit namin na kasama natin sa design yung DOJ Action Center

asr-001217
01:31:31.790 --> 01:31:37.140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or ang gusto nga ho namin sanang matawag ito ay para ho may ownership yung mga kababayan natin

asr-001218
01:31:37.140 --> 01:31:40.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay DOJ Katarungan Office o DOJKO.

asr-001219
01:31:40.900 --> 01:31:44.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi sa dulo po itong serbisyong ito sa kababayan naman natin ito

asr-001220
01:31:44.910 --> 01:31:47.530
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para ho mas mapalapit natin yung serbisyo, Your Honor.

asr-001221
01:31:49.670 --> 01:31:52.010
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair,

asr-001222
01:31:52.080 --> 01:31:55.680
Rep. Brian Poe: I was asking about this program kasi para sa mga kababayan natin,

asr-001223
01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:59.270
Rep. Brian Poe: malaking gastos po to go to their lawyers,

asr-001224
01:31:59.460 --> 01:32:04.000
Rep. Brian Poe: to go to centers of commerce where they can access legal services.

asr-001225
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.800
Rep. Brian Poe: Kaya maganda yung programa ng DOJ and the fact that the DOJ, I believe,

asr-001226
01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:12.000
Rep. Brian Poe: has opened around nine new Katarungan regional centers.

asr-001227
01:32:13.160 --> 01:32:16.320
Rep. Brian Poe: Are we going to be opening more in the years to come?

asr-001228
01:32:16.390 --> 01:32:18.020
Rep. Brian Poe: Do we have funding for this, Secretary?

asr-001229
01:32:18.440 --> 01:32:19.000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-001230
01:32:19.400 --> 01:32:20.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is part.

asr-001231
01:32:20.350 --> 01:32:25.100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, yung ating optimization plan for the Department of Justice

asr-001232
01:32:25.100 --> 01:32:30.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that it's rather than a secretary-initiated program,

asr-001233
01:32:31.150 --> 01:32:34.460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: inilatag na po namin ito sa DBM

asr-001234
01:32:34.460 --> 01:32:40.540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the optimization plan for the Department of Justice

asr-001235
01:32:40.540 --> 01:32:45.970
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para may kaukulang plantilya, may kaukulang resources

asr-001236
01:32:45.970 --> 01:32:49.520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para nga po yung 250 field offices natin

asr-001237
01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:51.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: magkaroon po ng ganitong serbisyo.

asr-001238
01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:55.400
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, the reason why I'm bringing this up also is

asr-001239
01:32:55.400 --> 01:32:58.450
Rep. Brian Poe: because with such a limited budget of only around 8 million pesos

asr-001240
01:32:58.450 --> 01:33:00.120
Rep. Brian Poe: under the office of the Secretary

asr-001241
01:33:00.120 --> 01:33:04.170
Rep. Brian Poe: for the Katarungan Caravan and the DOJ Action Center,

asr-001242
01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:08.180
Rep. Brian Poe: they've been able to help more than 15,000 people as of date now.

asr-001243
01:33:08.550 --> 01:33:12.150
Rep. Brian Poe: They're on track to help more than 25,000 people by the end of the year.

asr-001244
01:33:12.490 --> 01:33:14.180
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, you realize that per person,

asr-001245
01:33:14.180 --> 01:33:16.060
Rep. Brian Poe: that means that the government is only,

asr-001246
01:33:16.060 --> 01:33:20.170
Rep. Brian Poe: spending about 250 to 300 pesos per person for legal assistance.

asr-001247
01:33:20.390 --> 01:33:24.770
Rep. Brian Poe: The average lawyer would charge you more than 1,000 to 3,000 pesos an hour.

asr-001248
01:33:25.410 --> 01:33:28.850
Rep. Brian Poe: The government is doing good for the people with such a limited fund.

asr-001249
01:33:29.140 --> 01:33:31.010
Rep. Brian Poe: I'm hoping that in this year's budget,

asr-001250
01:33:31.240 --> 01:33:33.930
Rep. Brian Poe: we will be able to increase the Secretary's capability

asr-001251
01:33:33.930 --> 01:33:35.880
Rep. Brian Poe: to touch base with the poorest of the poor

asr-001252
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:37.500
Rep. Brian Poe: and help them with legal services.

asr-001253
01:33:37.980 --> 01:33:38.940
Rep. Brian Poe: And with that, Mr. Chair,

asr-001254
01:33:38.940 --> 01:33:42.510
Rep. Brian Poe: I only have one last set of questions.

asr-001255
01:33:42.790 --> 01:33:44.570
Rep. Brian Poe: I have a question for the Public Attorney's Office.

asr-001256
01:33:44.570 --> 01:33:46.360
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for PAO.

asr-001257
01:33:46.360 --> 01:33:50.810
Rep. Brian Poe: For PAO, this is really the bedrock of our public service.

asr-001258
01:33:50.810 --> 01:33:55.270
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe currently our goal is one attorney, one court.

asr-001259
01:33:55.270 --> 01:34:06.880
Rep. Brian Poe: Are we able to uphold that with our current budget?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Thank you for your question, Mr. Chair.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have now some district offices

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01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:27.550
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: which I can deploy one-to-one per court,

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01:34:27.550 --> 01:34:29.550
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: but we're still lacking,

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01:34:29.550 --> 01:34:32.540
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because PAO doesn't handle only criminal cases.

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01:34:32.540 --> 01:34:33.540
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have labor cases.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have counterparts also served by the Office of the Solicitor General.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have preliminary investigation cases.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we are asking for additional 559 items.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we hope the son of my friend, Senator Grace Poe,

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: will request the august halls of Congress

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: to fulfill this deficiency.

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01:34:58.490 --> 01:35:01.480
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we are very supportive of the Katarungan Caravan

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01:35:01.480 --> 01:35:03.480
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because we're sending lawyers to assist

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: our honorable Undersecretary Margarita Gutierrez,

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: who happened to be my student at Ateneo Law School

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: and one of my best students.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: So, we are requesting that this hall will insert this deficiency

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because we have not only two agencies which are our counterparts,

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01:35:24.440 --> 01:35:28.430
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: OSG, NPS, but also the private practitioners

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01:35:28.430 --> 01:35:30.430
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: who are worthy opponents of PAO.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And I'm very happy that the question was propounded today.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Thank you.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you.

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01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:38.730
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, the reason why I asked about that

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Rep. Brian Poe: is because PAO's budget for fiscal year 2026

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Rep. Brian Poe: was 6.6 billion, more or less.

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01:35:45.620 --> 01:35:48.570
Rep. Brian Poe: This year, in the NEP, it's 7.1 billion.

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01:35:48.570 --> 01:35:51.520
Rep. Brian Poe: There's an increase of about 400 million pesos.

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01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.470
Rep. Brian Poe: Is this for the items that you requested?

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01:35:55.440 --> 01:35:57.340
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: I'm sorry, sir.

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01:35:57.340 --> 01:36:00.200
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That's not the purpose of those increases.

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01:36:00.200 --> 01:36:03.050
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: But the mandatory increases of SSL VI,

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01:36:03.050 --> 01:36:05.910
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: also, I think there are...

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01:36:07.810 --> 01:36:13.470
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: for the lawyers in addition to the 87 lawyers that were included last year.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: So, these are not new creations but past creations by the DBM.

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01:36:18.320 --> 01:36:21.220
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it's just funding for your past creations?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, deficiencies, Your Honor.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Ah, okay.

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Rep. Brian Poe: So, that's why there's an increase of 400 million?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

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01:36:26.650 --> 01:36:30.510
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Because the salary now of our lawyers being hired

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01:36:30.510 --> 01:36:33.400
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: is at par with the new prosecutors,

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01:36:33.400 --> 01:36:35.330
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: around six digits per month

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01:36:35.330 --> 01:36:38.230
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because of the number of cases we're handling.

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01:36:38.230 --> 01:36:40.160
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: In fact, we're happy to tell you that we have served

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 16 million Filipino people last year.

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01:36:42.090 --> 01:36:48.850
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And now, about, I think, 6 million Filipino people as of June.

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01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:51.580
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, the reason why I'm asking

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01:36:51.580 --> 01:36:53.570
Rep. Brian Poe: whether or not there's sufficient funding,

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01:36:53.570 --> 01:36:55.550
Rep. Brian Poe: if we're asking for additional items pa,

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01:36:55.550 --> 01:36:59.520
Rep. Brian Poe: kulang pa itong budget na nakita natin sa NEP, no?

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01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:01.510
Rep. Brian Poe: We actually need to increase it.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Hopefully, and I do hope that the PAO is able to assign more

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Rep. Brian Poe: to the Katarungan Caravan and to our outreach services through the DOJ.

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01:37:11.430 --> 01:37:13.420
Rep. Brian Poe: Hopefully, yung mga additional items po natin

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01:37:13.420 --> 01:37:19.370
Rep. Brian Poe: can be assigned to grassroots work na kailangan na kailangan na mga kababayan natin.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor, we commit to that.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we are also serving the DMW.

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01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:26.970
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And the OWWA.

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01:37:26.970 --> 01:37:29.970
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Because we are called upon by these two departments and agencies

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: to assist our OFWs abroad, personally by our PAO lawyers.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Nako, Mr. Chair, I'm so happy to hear that PAO is going to be working closely

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Rep. Brian Poe: with the DOJAC to be able to provide more for kababayans with legal assistance.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, I just want to reiterate my support

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01:37:47.080 --> 01:37:50.010
Rep. Brian Poe: for the budget of the Department of Justice.

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01:37:50.010 --> 01:37:53.910
Rep. Brian Poe: I feel that this is one of the ways that we can really make our presence felt.

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01:37:53.910 --> 01:37:55.860
Rep. Brian Poe: Para sa mga kababayan natin.

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01:37:55.860 --> 01:37:58.780
Rep. Brian Poe: Through their legal aid, legal services,

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Rep. Brian Poe: and through the protection of our mga kababayan

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01:38:01.700 --> 01:38:06.580
Rep. Brian Poe: who are affected by scams, fraud, sexual violence, etc.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, with that being said, I also want to point out that

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Rep. Brian Poe: I'm glad that I'm able to work with PAO in this capacity

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Rep. Brian Poe: because once upon a time, I was a reporter in her office back in 2013.

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Rep. Brian Poe: So it's good to see that she hasn't given up her drive for public service.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po, Representative Brian Poe.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line, from the minority, Representative Renee Louise Co.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:44.790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: here today. At gusto ko lang din pong mag-take off sa

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01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:48.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: line of questioning that was already established no iyung

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01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:52.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: essentially paano natin na-insensure naba-balance nabibilang

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01:38:52.040 --> 01:38:56.550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung convictions given iyung mga cases that we've filed.

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01:38:56.560 --> 01:38:59.550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: No, we note that may bagong evidentiary standard for

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01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:03.790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: prosecutors since 2024. dati probable cause

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01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:07.870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dapat yung um evidentially threshold bago

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01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:11.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dumulog sa korte yung kaso pero ngayon it's reasonable certainty

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01:39:11.480 --> 01:39:15.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of conviction and tama po ba ah kasi this was in your press release

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01:39:15.400 --> 01:39:19.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as well this was changed because of longstanding

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01:39:19.280 --> 01:39:22.950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: challenges in the justice system iyung weak cases that overburden

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01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:26.980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: trials and erode public trust. Is this correct?

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01:39:28.398 --> 01:39:33.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo. Maraming salamat po sa katanungan. your honor. Ah, tama po kayo na ang

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01:39:33.119 --> 01:39:37.709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: layunin po nito ay para bago magsampa ng kaso ang sinumang

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01:39:37.719 --> 01:39:42.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: fiscal sa Pilipinas, ibig sabihin handa na ang prosecution.

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01:39:42.440 --> 01:39:46.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: handa ng prosecution na manalo. At may isa pa hong kadahilanan dito.

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01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:51.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang napansin po kasi natin sa nakaraang kasaysayan natin about

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01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:55.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: filing cases sa mga may kakayanang kasing kumuha ng

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01:39:55.520 --> 01:40:00.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: abogado dahil probable cause yung ano pwede kang maging biktima

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lang ng pagfa-file ng maraming kaso. Pero dahil dito po sa

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01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:10.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mas may wider latitude ang ating mga fiskal, ang ating mga prosecutors

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01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:14.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to fully assess na ang isasampalang kaso ay yung kayang

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01:40:14.360 --> 01:40:18.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ipanalo or malamang mananalo sa korte.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hindi ngayon nagiging game kasi ang napakahirap po ngayon ay yung kumuha ng abogado.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Mahal po kumuha ng abogado. So kung ikaw ay bibiktimahin ng isang

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01:40:28.440 --> 01:40:33.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: individwal o isang grupo na may kakayanang kumuha ng abogado,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dehado ka na dahil sa probable cause. Pero dahil dito po sa

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Freema Fachi evidence with reasonable certainty of conviction, medyo

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01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:46.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nabalanse po natin. At ito po ay kinilala na ng ating korte

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01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:51.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: suprema na ito ay kaakibat sa mandato ng DOJ bilang

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01:40:51.679 --> 01:40:56.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: executive na nasa poder ng DOJ ang mag

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01:40:56.280 --> 01:41:01.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah maghusga kung aling kaso ang itutuloy

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at aling kasong krimen ang hindi itutuloy. Maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ah Mr. Chair, napansin natin sa

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01:41:08.119 --> 01:41:11.189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kanilang report na merong disposition rate.

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01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:13.109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May changes po ba in for example

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: filing rates or conviction rates?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dahil nga po sinabi na medyo ma-stricter iyung standard.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there less there are there

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: less cases filed in court now?

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01:41:23.360 --> 01:41:26.017
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mas mataas po ba ang conviction rate? Mr. Chair,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If I may ask the Prosecutor General to respond.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: filed, mas kokunti po ang umaakyat na kaso ngayon dahil ang ginagawa po ng inyong Department of Justice

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay bago pa ho ito maisampa sa amin, hindi naman po kaagad yan dina-docket kaagad sa

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: isang criminal case. Ini-evaluate muna to at kung kulang po ang ebidensya, ito po'y ibinabalik namin para

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: buuin ang ebidensya. Kung kami naman po ay uh sa tingin po ng after evaluation

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: makikita po na sapat na ang ebidensya parang ito'y masampa, saka pa lamang po namin yan iaakyat sa hhusgado.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang kagandahan po nito ay dahil sa sa maagang panahon, ang inyong prosecution

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01:42:17.320 --> 01:42:23.229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: service at ang ating mga law enforcement ay nag-uusap na po para malaman kung ano yung mga

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kailangang ebidensya na maipresenta sa hhusgado para pagdating po nito sa hhusgado, natitiyak po natin

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na itong kaso na pong ito ay tatagal at ito po ay kayang makakuha ng conviction.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So there are fewer cases which are actually being filed but these are I would call and classify them as quality cases. Ma'am

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, puwede po bang makakuha ng numbers tungkol dito?

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May disposition rate naman na po. So siguro conviction rates and filing rates to supplement yung

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01:42:53.080 --> 01:42:58.120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ganon numbers. Meron po ba or can this be submitted to the committee? Mr. Chair?

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Yes, your honor. Ah, iyung cases na binanggit namin iyong 395,000, ito po iyung preliminary investigation.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: After a resolution for a preliminary investigation, meron pong for filing at merong for dismissal.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: We will share that data. We will we need to disaggregate iyung data po namin na available. Yes, we will make that available your honor. Okay.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I share the concern ano uh from the Department of Justice. Ayaw natin na may mga kaso

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na essentially madi-dismiss lang din naman. Sayang po sa oras, sayang po sa pera. And I have to raise yung mga ilang cases that

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01:43:37.320 --> 01:43:44.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: have been uh notified to my office no na ah ang dulo po nito maraming na-disms, no?

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01:43:44.440 --> 01:43:53.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marami pong to our knowledge terrorist financing cases that despite it being filed by the court, filed by the officer of

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01:43:53.239 --> 01:44:01.870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This year, iyong case ng CERNET, it was dismissed because of lack of jurisdiction.

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01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:09.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: People v. Muñoz, People v. Aliques, People v. Estolioso, People v. Lemita—marami po sa kanila may defects.

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01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:17.790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Muñoz people versus Aliquez people versus Estolioso people versus Lamita na marami po sa kanila may defects

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01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:26.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on uh jurisdiction and in the last case I mention po um yung prosecutor ni-request na mag-submit ng additional

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01:44:26.440 --> 01:44:34.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: data at hindi po ito na ibigay and wala pong additional communication so dinismiss na lang po ng court. So ang tanong ko po Mr.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair ah bakit po ganito nangyayari no? May mas mataas ng um threshold, evidentially

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: threshhold and the court will dismiss them no? Because hindi naman na-meet or walang primafch case at all.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Mr.

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01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:59.310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Chair, there are instances ho talaga

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01:44:59.320 --> 01:45:01.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na kahit na po sa tingin ng prosecutor

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01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:02.990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: after evaluating the evidence that it is

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01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:05.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sufficient, we're still looking

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01:45:05.360 --> 01:45:08.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at a variable which is how the court would view it.

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01:45:08.400 --> 01:45:09.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There are so many factors

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01:45:09.400 --> 01:45:11.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that can be considered when a case

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01:45:11.360 --> 01:45:13.629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and how a case will be decided.

asr-001418
01:45:13.639 --> 01:45:15.109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: We in the prosecution are

asr-001419
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:17.109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: convinced with the evidence that we present

asr-001420
01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:19.229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: before the court that it will meet the standard

asr-001421
01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:21.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of proof beyond reasonable doubt.

asr-001422
01:45:21.280 --> 01:45:23.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Pero meron pong mga factors talaga

asr-001423
01:45:23.400 --> 01:45:25.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na hindi po or beyond our

asr-001424
01:45:25.280 --> 01:45:27.430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: control and which becomes the basis

asr-001425
01:45:27.440 --> 01:45:29.950
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the court when rendering judgment.

asr-001426
01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:31.310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: But uh also

asr-001427
01:45:31.320 --> 01:45:32.950
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ma'am,

asr-001428
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:35.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: uh ma'am that

asr-001429
01:45:35.360 --> 01:45:37.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in this particular there are instances

asr-001430
01:45:37.400 --> 01:45:39.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: wherein there are really cases na

asr-001431
01:45:39.280 --> 01:45:41.430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: halimbawa ho naisampa dumating

asr-001432
01:45:41.440 --> 01:45:44.229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ho sa hhusgado pero nadi-disms.

asr-001433
01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:45.709
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Marami hong dahilan diyan.

asr-001434
01:45:45.719 --> 01:45:47.870
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Hindi ho sumisipot ang testigo.

asr-001435
01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:49.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Wala na pong ebidensya

asr-001436
01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:51.030
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: because I have to point out

asr-001437
01:45:51.040 --> 01:45:53.149
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: also that the prosecutor is only as

asr-001438
01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:55.790
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: good as the evidence that he has on hand.

asr-001439
01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:57.430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So kaya nga gusto po namin

asr-001440
01:45:57.440 --> 01:45:58.830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: habang sa pinakamaagang

asr-001441
01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:01.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: pagkakataon hawak na po natin 'yung

asr-001442
01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:03.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ebidensya ng kung sa gayon pagdating sa

asr-001443
01:46:03.280 --> 01:46:05.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: hhusgado kung ito'y hihingi

asr-001444
01:46:05.360 --> 01:46:07.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ng ating hukom ito

asr-001445
01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:09.263
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: po y agad-agad nating maipresinta.

asr-001446
01:46:10.715 --> 01:46:12.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang napansin ko rin po Mr.

asr-001447
01:46:12.280 --> 01:46:14.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair, in this recent string

asr-001448
01:46:14.599 --> 01:46:16.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of cases that were dismissed,

asr-001449
01:46:16.599 --> 01:46:18.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: um there is one legal

asr-001450
01:46:18.520 --> 01:46:20.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: argument na pinanghawakan

asr-001451
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:22.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na in

asr-001452
01:46:22.599 --> 01:46:24.350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one ruling ay the court

asr-001453
01:46:24.360 --> 01:46:26.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: said hindi po ito

asr-001454
01:46:26.480 --> 01:46:28.709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: magfa-fly na legal argument and

asr-001455
01:46:28.719 --> 01:46:30.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I think this string of cases yun na

asr-001456
01:46:30.480 --> 01:46:32.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po iyung argument sa kanila

asr-001457
01:46:32.440 --> 01:46:34.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no na walang jurisdiction etc.

asr-001458
01:46:34.840 --> 01:46:36.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So I guess my question would

asr-001459
01:46:36.320 --> 01:46:38.550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be given na may gann ng

asr-001460
01:46:38.560 --> 01:46:40.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh findings yung courts,

asr-001461
01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:42.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will the DOJ

asr-001462
01:46:42.599 --> 01:46:44.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dismiss or withdraw cases

asr-001463
01:46:44.480 --> 01:46:46.189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that are allegedly lacking

asr-001464
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:48.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: insufficient legal basis or

asr-001465
01:46:48.440 --> 01:46:50.149
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: founded on fabricated evidence?

asr-001466
01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:52.109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na for example these cases

asr-001467
01:46:52.119 --> 01:46:54.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: were filed before nagbago

asr-001468
01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:55.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iyung standard no?

asr-001469
01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi na reasonable uh

asr-001470
01:46:58.400 --> 01:46:59.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: certainty of conviction pero

asr-001471
01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:02.070
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ngayon binago, chineck parang

asr-001472
01:47:02.080 --> 01:47:04.070
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi naman pumapasa doon.

asr-001473
01:47:04.080 --> 01:47:06.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will the DOJ uh

asr-001474
01:47:06.320 --> 01:47:08.056
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dismiss or withdraw these cases?

asr-001475
01:47:09.338 --> 01:47:11.510
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: In answer to your question, Ma'am,

asr-001476
01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:13.109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Definitely if these cases

asr-001477
01:47:13.119 --> 01:47:14.910
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: were filed before the

asr-001478
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:16.669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: department adopted the new quantum

asr-001479
01:47:16.679 --> 01:47:18.750
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of evidence, we will certainly scrutinize

asr-001480
01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:20.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it before it actually

asr-001481
01:47:20.280 --> 01:47:22.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is elevated to court.

asr-001482
01:47:22.400 --> 01:47:24.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There is of course during the evaluation

asr-001483
01:47:24.280 --> 01:47:25.830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the opportunity to assert

asr-001484
01:47:25.840 --> 01:47:27.669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: whether we will elevate it or

asr-001485
01:47:27.679 --> 01:47:29.550
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we will send it back for purposes of

asr-001486
01:47:29.560 --> 01:47:31.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: gathering additional evidence.

asr-001487
01:47:31.360 --> 01:47:32.990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So you can be assured madam

asr-001488
01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:34.709
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: uh uh madam

asr-001489
01:47:34.719 --> 01:47:36.830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that when we do evaluate our

asr-001490
01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:38.629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: cases we will look at the evidence which

asr-001491
01:47:38.639 --> 01:47:40.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is on hand at the time of the

asr-001492
01:47:40.280 --> 01:47:42.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: filing and then on the basis

asr-001493
01:47:42.400 --> 01:47:44.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the same make our assessment whether

asr-001494
01:47:44.360 --> 01:47:46.030
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it will be sufficient to bring

asr-001495
01:47:46.040 --> 01:47:47.629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it forward to the court.

asr-001496
01:47:47.639 --> 01:47:49.830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: If we find that the evidence is insufficient

asr-001497
01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:51.629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: rest assured that the department

asr-001498
01:47:51.639 --> 01:47:53.470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: will not also elevate these cases

asr-001499
01:47:53.480 --> 01:47:55.222
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we have to meet.

asr-001500
01:47:56.183 --> 01:47:57.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about Mr.

asr-001501
01:47:57.239 --> 01:48:00.189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair yung mga cases that are currently pending with the

asr-001502
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:02.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: court pero upon review ay hindi

asr-001503
01:48:02.280 --> 01:48:04.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: naman na po papasa doon sa bagong

asr-001504
01:48:04.320 --> 01:48:05.990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: evidentiary threshold.

asr-001505
01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:07.950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At siguro I'd like to thank the

asr-001506
01:48:07.960 --> 01:48:10.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: DOJ last year nag-request

asr-001507
01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:12.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tayo ng data kung ano na po yung mga

asr-001508
01:48:12.320 --> 01:48:14.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na-file na or ano na po

asr-001509
01:48:14.239 --> 01:48:16.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iyong status ng cases under the

asr-001510
01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:18.189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: DOG task force on

asr-001511
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:19.550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: counterterrorism.

asr-001512
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:23.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Shineer po na kalahati niyan ay pending no.

asr-001513
01:48:23.320 --> 01:48:24.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero may some

asr-001514
01:48:24.320 --> 01:48:26.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 1/5 that were dismissed

asr-001515
01:48:26.480 --> 01:48:28.870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because of insufficiency of evidence.

asr-001516
01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:30.109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So that was before

asr-001517
01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:31.790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iyung standard na to no.

asr-001518
01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:33.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So but there's still half no.

asr-001519
01:48:33.480 --> 01:48:36.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And these are people na sa

asr-001520
01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:37.990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pag kausap sa

asr-001521
01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:40.189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kanila, you know, from

asr-001522
01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:42.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marginalized sectors, marginalized communities,

asr-001523
01:48:42.320 --> 01:48:44.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tumutulong sa kapwa communities and may na

asr-001524
01:48:44.320 --> 01:48:45.790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: masama yung ganito.

asr-001525
01:48:45.800 --> 01:48:48.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So ayaw lang nating maipit at mas mahirapan

asr-001526
01:48:48.480 --> 01:48:50.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pa yung tuloy-tuloy nilang

asr-001527
01:48:50.040 --> 01:48:52.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah pagkabuhay

asr-001528
01:48:52.599 --> 01:48:54.189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and mas nahihirapan pa

asr-001529
01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:56.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng overburdensome

asr-001530
01:48:56.520 --> 01:48:58.109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na court proceedings.

asr-001531
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So will the DOJ, Mr.

asr-001532
01:49:00.440 --> 01:49:02.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: chair no review spending cases

asr-001533
01:49:02.480 --> 01:49:04.561
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kahit hindi pa siya for elevation. M

asr-001534
01:49:04.561 --> 01:49:06.589
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: well definitely it's a challenge po

asr-001535
01:49:06.599 --> 01:49:08.430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for the department na when there are

asr-001536
01:49:08.440 --> 01:49:10.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: cases which are already pending in

asr-001537
01:49:10.280 --> 01:49:12.470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: court prior to the adoption of the

asr-001538
01:49:12.480 --> 01:49:14.589
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: new quantum of evidence because it's not something

asr-001539
01:49:14.599 --> 01:49:16.669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that you can just withdraw

asr-001540
01:49:16.679 --> 01:49:19.669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: especially when the proceedings are already ongoing.

asr-001541
01:49:19.679 --> 01:49:20.470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Now ang sa amin

asr-001542
01:49:20.480 --> 01:49:22.550
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: naman po dito is that hindi naman

asr-001543
01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:24.669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: po basta basta sinasampa yung kaso.

asr-001544
01:49:24.679 --> 01:49:26.430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang gusto nating maunawaan ng ating mga

asr-001545
01:49:26.440 --> 01:49:28.550
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kababayan, Madam Sherry, is that

asr-001546
01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:30.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ah yun ho ang

asr-001547
01:49:30.400 --> 01:49:32.310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: problema naging problema natin dun sa

asr-001548
01:49:32.320 --> 01:49:33.990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: dating quantum of evidence.

asr-001549
01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: probable cause. Ang ang ibig sabihin lang

asr-001550
01:49:36.480 --> 01:49:38.669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: po niyan may posibilidad

asr-001551
01:49:38.679 --> 01:49:40.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na yung taong inaakusahan

asr-001552
01:49:40.360 --> 01:49:43.350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay may kinalaman doon sa ginawang krimen.

asr-001553
01:49:43.360 --> 01:49:44.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Dahil itinaas po

asr-001554
01:49:44.280 --> 01:49:46.109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: natin yung antas no ng

asr-001555
01:49:46.119 --> 01:49:48.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ah ebidensya na kailangan,

asr-001556
01:49:48.400 --> 01:49:50.709
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: mas masusi na pong natitingnan ngayon.

asr-001557
01:49:50.719 --> 01:49:52.470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: At least masasabi po namin

asr-001558
01:49:52.480 --> 01:49:54.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: yan tungkol doon sa mga

asr-001559
01:49:54.199 --> 01:49:56.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kasong isinasampa ngayon.

asr-001560
01:49:56.199 --> 01:49:58.310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: For those cases which are in court, yes, we

asr-001561
01:49:58.320 --> 01:50:00.510
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: will of course take into

asr-001562
01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:02.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: consideration kung ano man po ang

asr-001563
01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:04.310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: naging obserbasyon ng hhusgado.

asr-001564
01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:06.270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Pero may nabanggit po kayo kanina

asr-001565
01:50:06.280 --> 01:50:08.070
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ma'am like for example yung sa

asr-001566
01:50:08.080 --> 01:50:10.109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Sirnet no na

asr-001567
01:50:10.119 --> 01:50:12.390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: yes that was the decision of the regional

asr-001568
01:50:12.400 --> 01:50:14.109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: trial court but of course the

asr-001569
01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: department also has other options

asr-001570
01:50:16.440 --> 01:50:18.430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: which is to elevate the matter on

asr-001571
01:50:18.440 --> 01:50:20.229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: surchay if we feel

asr-001572
01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:22.070
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that there was a mistake no

asr-001573
01:50:22.080 --> 01:50:24.629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: or grave abuse committed by the court.

asr-001574
01:50:24.639 --> 01:50:26.310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So those are things which are

asr-001575
01:50:26.320 --> 01:50:28.189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: available to us at ginagamit po ng

asr-001576
01:50:28.199 --> 01:50:29.910
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: department para matiyak

asr-001577
01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:32.070
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: natin na iyung tamang

asr-001578
01:50:32.080 --> 01:50:34.167
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: hustisya ang makuha ng kung sino man.

asr-001579
01:50:35.618 --> 01:50:38.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for your answer.

asr-001580
01:50:38.040 --> 01:50:39.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I ang dulo naman

asr-001581
01:50:39.599 --> 01:50:41.910
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po nito, I hope na ma-consider iyon.

asr-001582
01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:43.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ah and siguro

asr-001583
01:50:43.480 --> 01:50:45.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah given that I have lacking

asr-001584
01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:47.279
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 30 seconds left na lang po.

asr-001585
01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:48.359
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Last question na, Rep. Renee.

asr-001586
01:50:48.359 --> 01:50:50.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Uh my last question.

asr-001587
01:50:50.599 --> 01:50:53.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Uh this is in relation to data submitted by the DOJ

asr-001588
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:55.189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: din last year.

asr-001596
01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:58.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Uh manghingi lang din po ako ng update dahil to

asr-001597
01:50:58.440 --> 01:51:01.709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh discuss there's like 106 cases

asr-001598
01:51:01.719 --> 01:51:04.669
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: daw filed by the DOJ on

asr-001599
01:51:04.679 --> 01:51:06.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by that DOG task force on counterterrorism

asr-001600
01:51:06.840 --> 01:51:08.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and terrorism financing.

asr-001601
01:51:08.320 --> 01:51:12.229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So kung may increase po ng cases na to, wed like to receive

asr-001602
01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:14.870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: an update and even iyung breakdown uh

asr-001603
01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:17.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: whether it's dismissed or pending

asr-001604
01:51:17.040 --> 01:51:20.950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: investigation etc. And ang question ko na lang po Mr.

asr-001605
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:23.069
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair dito um

asr-001606
01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:25.350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: beyond yung task force ng DOJ, is

asr-001607
01:51:25.360 --> 01:51:27.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DOJ working with other government

asr-001608
01:51:27.400 --> 01:51:30.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agencies ah para ma

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: magawa yung mga functions in relation to this?

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01:51:33.679 --> 01:51:36.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May joint task force po ba on

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terrorism or counterterrorism? Mr. Chair.

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Well, our prosecutors, Ma'am, coordinate with the Anti-Terrorism Council,

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: counterparts in the military that we uh talk to together with the other

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the intelligence community, no? In helping make sure that the evidence which is actually

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Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: gathered and which is brought forward as basis for the filing of these cases are actually sufficient and existing.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SH if you would allow me a brief time to reply

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and then maybe make my last question.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, you

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: You may, Rep. Renee.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: you for your indulgence, Mr. Chair. Mr.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd like to bring up a certain case

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01:52:19.599 --> 01:52:20.950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: study dahil

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01:52:20.960 --> 01:52:23.550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po it was flagged to

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: us na merong isang

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh Filipino American

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that was here

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and supposedly uh

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron pong mga agents of the

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bureau of Immigration

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that uh

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sought to arrest her no and then they were

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01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:42.109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wearing vests na nakalagay antiterror

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01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:43.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: task force.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So this is beyond

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung DOJ no.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron ng buo of immigration

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01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:51.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and aside from that

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01:52:51.480 --> 01:52:53.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no inassure siya na

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01:52:53.520 --> 01:52:55.629
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: overstaying lang iyung charge

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01:52:55.639 --> 01:52:57.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: niya but pagdating po sa

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01:52:57.520 --> 01:52:59.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: prosecution naging frustrated

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01:52:59.599 --> 01:53:01.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: murder so

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01:53:01.440 --> 01:53:03.550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang question natin dito

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mr chair ay ah

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yun nga po ano

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po bang mga

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01:53:10.159 --> 01:53:11.629
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iba't ibang processes

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01:53:11.639 --> 01:53:13.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or even iba't ibang agencies involved

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01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:15.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa operations ng DOJ task

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01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:17.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: force ah meron Meron po bang ibang joint

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01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:19.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: task force and ano pong guidelines yung

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01:53:19.599 --> 01:53:21.709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sinusunod nila and paano nila in-ensure na

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01:53:21.719 --> 01:53:23.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung mga mamamayan or mga taong

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01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:25.790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bayan natin hindi po naa-unburden

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01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:27.709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kanilang observance of

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang ultimate

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01:53:32.719 --> 01:53:34.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: salamat po ah your honor.

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01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:36.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang ang pinakabasehan lang naman

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01:53:36.679 --> 01:53:38.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nito kung ano yung ebidensya at ano yung

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01:53:38.840 --> 01:53:40.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: rule of law, ano yung batas.

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01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:43.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So sa mga proseso hindi

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01:53:43.040 --> 01:53:44.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ho perpekto sistema natin

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01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: syempre sa lahat na yyan tulad ho ngayon

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01:53:47.159 --> 01:53:49.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa antiterrorism task force ang DOJ

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01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:51.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po ang technical ang head ng technical

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01:53:51.599 --> 01:53:54.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: working group doon sa designation

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01:53:54.040 --> 01:53:55.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag law enforcement

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01:53:55.239 --> 01:53:57.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: activities marami na pong iba't ibang ahensya

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01:53:57.800 --> 01:53:59.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: diyan tulad ng nabanggit niyo po meron

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01:53:59.960 --> 01:54:01.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pong ahente ang BI meron

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01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:04.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pong ahente ang PNP meron

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01:54:04.199 --> 01:54:06.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: din pong ahente ang ating NBI

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01:54:06.599 --> 01:54:08.390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na gumaganap sa ganitong iba't

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01:54:08.400 --> 01:54:10.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ibang tungkulin ang aming pong

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01:54:10.520 --> 01:54:12.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: masisigurado sa Department of

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01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:14.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Justice no ah kung ito

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01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:16.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: man ay papasok sa aming mandato,

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01:54:16.679 --> 01:54:19.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: titiyakin namin na ito ay base lamang sa ebidensya.

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01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:20.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tulad do ngbanggit niyo

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01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:22.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kanina, sinabi

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01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:25.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay ang tinitiyak

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01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:26.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung immigration

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01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:28.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: officers na ang ano lang is

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01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:31.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: overstaying, then biglang ang naging

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01:54:31.320 --> 01:54:34.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kaso na ay ah frustrated.

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01:54:34.360 --> 01:54:36.709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito naman po ay base lang sa ebidensya.

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01:54:36.719 --> 01:54:37.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung kung may

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01:54:37.520 --> 01:54:39.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagmamalabis man po yung ating mga

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01:54:39.520 --> 01:54:41.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ahente ng ah na

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01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:43.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kapatid natin sa paglilingkod bayan,

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01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:45.629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: meron naman pong recourse.

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01:54:45.639 --> 01:54:48.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pwede pong magsumbong sa Secretary of Justice, sa

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01:54:48.280 --> 01:54:50.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bureo, sa Commissioner ng ating

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01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:52.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bureau para po ma-correct

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01:54:52.679 --> 01:54:55.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung yung maaaring pagkakamali.

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01:54:55.040 --> 01:54:56.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero hindi ko ho masasabi na may

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01:54:56.760 --> 01:54:58.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagkakamali na kaagad dahil sa

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01:54:58.920 --> 01:55:01.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: bawat po pagganap namin dun sa tungkulin,

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01:55:01.360 --> 01:55:02.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: syempre kanya-kanya pong

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01:55:02.480 --> 01:55:05.146
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag-appreciate ng kanya-kanyang ebidensya.

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for yung reply, Mr. Chair.

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01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:10.589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, yung request na lang po natin sa data.

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01:55:10.599 --> 01:55:12.350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sana po ay ma-submit through committee and

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01:55:12.360 --> 01:55:14.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we will um uh

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Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: coordinate po doon sa request natin.

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01:55:16.823 --> 01:55:17.617
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will submit, Your Honor.

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01:55:18.578 --> 01:55:20.069
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you very much.

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01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:21.390
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Rep. Renee Co.

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01:55:21.400 --> 01:55:24.030
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the majority,

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01:55:24.040 --> 01:55:25.750
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Jonathan Keith Flores.

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01:55:27.252 --> 01:55:28.310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr.

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01:55:28.320 --> 01:55:31.310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair, I would like to direct my question to

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01:55:31.320 --> 01:55:32.669
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: to Asec. Lapuz.

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01:55:32.679 --> 01:55:34.790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair, uh

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01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:36.550
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: I noticed that uh the budgets

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01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:38.310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: for anti-trafficking

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01:55:38.320 --> 01:55:40.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: persons enforcement, the

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01:55:40.400 --> 01:55:42.270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: cyber crime enforcement

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01:55:42.280 --> 01:55:44.109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and the online sexual abuse

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01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:46.109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and exploitation of children

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01:55:46.119 --> 01:55:47.870
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: were drastically

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01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:50.709
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: reduced dito sa 2027 NEP.

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01:55:50.719 --> 01:55:51.629
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Anong masasabi niyo po

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Asec. Lapuz?

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01:55:54.843 --> 01:55:57.669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: With the indulgence of our secretary.

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01:55:57.679 --> 01:55:59.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Sec.

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01:55:59.320 --> 01:56:01.149
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, um,

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01:56:01.159 --> 01:56:03.550
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Cong. Flores, for that question.

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01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:04.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Of course we

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01:56:04.320 --> 01:56:07.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: are concerned

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01:56:07.320 --> 01:56:09.030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: about this drastic

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01:56:09.040 --> 01:56:10.990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um decrease or slashing

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01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:12.790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of our cluster's budget

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01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:14.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the human security and privacy

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01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:16.189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: cluster of the department of

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01:56:16.199 --> 01:56:18.430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: justice under which is the

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01:56:18.440 --> 01:56:20.470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: interagency council against trafficking

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01:56:20.480 --> 01:56:22.350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Secretariat, the NCC-

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01:56:22.360 --> 01:56:24.510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: OSAEC-CSAEM Secretariat, and the

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01:56:24.520 --> 01:56:27.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Office of Cybercrime.

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01:56:27.320 --> 01:56:27.709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We've

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01:56:27.719 --> 01:56:30.510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: seen uh rising

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01:56:30.520 --> 01:56:32.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: number of cases related

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01:56:32.320 --> 01:56:34.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to sextortion,

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01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:36.189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: online scam,

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01:56:36.199 --> 01:56:38.109
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: osaec, online illegal

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01:56:38.119 --> 01:56:40.350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: recruitment as well as NVE

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01:56:40.360 --> 01:56:42.270
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: as mentioned a while ago but by

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01:56:42.280 --> 01:56:44.030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: one of the representatives

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01:56:44.040 --> 01:56:45.589
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: present this afternoon.

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01:56:45.599 --> 01:56:47.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: All of these are

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01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:50.189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: technology facilitated crimes

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01:56:50.199 --> 01:56:51.510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: or the misuse of

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01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:54.910
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: technology to commit these crimes.

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01:56:54.920 --> 01:56:56.030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And

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01:56:56.040 --> 01:56:57.870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: we feel that there is a

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01:56:57.880 --> 01:56:59.990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: misapprehension of the scope

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01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:01.709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of the problem because

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01:57:01.719 --> 01:57:03.950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: if for example the

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01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:05.870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: committee deliberating on our

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01:57:05.880 --> 01:57:07.589
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: budget would appreciate the

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01:57:07.599 --> 01:57:09.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: gravity and the urgency by which

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01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:11.629
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: we need to respond to

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01:57:11.639 --> 01:57:13.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: these crimes, then they would

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01:57:13.840 --> 01:57:15.910
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: at the very least restore

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01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:17.950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our budget to the

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01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:19.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: uh 2026

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01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:21.648
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: levels. Mr.

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01:57:25.951 --> 01:57:28.069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Yes. I saw kasi na

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01:57:28.079 --> 01:57:29.589
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 41%

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01:57:29.599 --> 01:57:31.550
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: sa anti-trafficking in persons,

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01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:33.709
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 71%

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01:57:33.719 --> 01:57:35.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: reduction in cyber

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01:57:35.400 --> 01:57:38.189
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: crime at saka 58%

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01:57:38.199 --> 01:57:40.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: in uh OSAEC.

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Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: No.

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01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:43.870
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Um, were there issues on uh your ano

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01:57:43.880 --> 01:57:45.796
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ba absorbtive capacity?

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DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Mr. Chair, thank you again for that question.

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01:57:50.760 --> 01:57:51.669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: If if

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01:57:51.679 --> 01:57:54.790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: absorptive capacity you mean um two things.

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01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:55.990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: First our

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01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:58.149
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: ability to procure

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01:57:58.159 --> 01:57:59.709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: certain um

asr-001787
01:57:59.719 --> 01:58:01.790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: certain high level

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01:58:01.800 --> 01:58:03.709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: uh programs and initiatives

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01:58:03.719 --> 01:58:05.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: as well as absorptive capacity

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01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:07.870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of our local task forces to

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01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:09.149
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: act on cases.

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01:58:09.159 --> 01:58:11.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Yes, there are limitations.

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01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:13.669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: However, we can't stop

asr-001794
01:58:13.679 --> 01:58:15.669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: building on these capacities now

asr-001795
01:58:15.679 --> 01:58:17.109
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: by slashing our budget.

asr-001796
01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:19.709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: all the more that we should push for

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01:58:19.719 --> 01:58:21.629
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um sustained efforts to

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01:58:21.639 --> 01:58:23.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: create capacity both at the level

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01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:25.669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of the national program as well

asr-001800
01:58:25.679 --> 01:58:27.595
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: as our local task forces.

asr-001801
01:58:28.270 --> 01:58:30.030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Well, is it correct ba

asr-001802
01:58:30.040 --> 01:58:32.069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: na na-include ba sa

asr-001803
01:58:32.079 --> 01:58:34.149
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: LEDAC bills 'yung amendments

asr-001804
01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:35.510
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ng OSAEC law?

asr-001805
01:58:35.510 --> 01:58:35.948
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-001806
01:58:36.151 --> 01:58:38.030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: if it is part of the LEDAC priority

asr-001807
01:58:38.040 --> 01:58:39.709
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: no tapos you're going to be

asr-001808
01:58:39.719 --> 01:58:41.069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: having a 58.93%

asr-001809
01:58:41.079 --> 01:58:43.310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 93% reduction in the budget.

asr-001810
01:58:43.320 --> 01:58:45.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: How will that parang affect

asr-001811
01:58:45.400 --> 01:58:46.990
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: the activities

asr-001812
01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:48.875
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: of uh the NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM?

asr-001813
01:58:49.432 --> 01:58:51.430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Um your honor, it will really

asr-001814
01:58:51.440 --> 01:58:53.669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um take us two or three steps

asr-001815
01:58:53.679 --> 01:58:55.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: back on our initiatives.

asr-001816
01:58:55.320 --> 01:58:58.030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We have just rolled out the National Strategic

asr-001817
01:58:58.040 --> 01:58:59.589
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Action Plan Against OSAEC and CSAEM,

asr-001818
01:58:59.599 --> 01:59:01.669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and we want to

asr-001819
01:59:01.679 --> 01:59:03.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: maintain the Tier 1 status of

asr-001820
01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:05.870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the Philippines in the U.S. TIP

asr-001821
01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:07.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Report, because if we lose

asr-001822
01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:10.350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: that standing then there will be economic

asr-001823
01:59:10.360 --> 01:59:11.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: implications against the

asr-001824
01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:13.390
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Philippines.

asr-001825
01:59:13.400 --> 01:59:16.189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Second, yes, it

asr-001826
01:59:16.199 --> 01:59:18.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: is a LEDAC priority,

asr-001827
01:59:18.320 --> 01:59:19.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and our capacity

asr-001828
01:59:19.840 --> 01:59:22.510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to respond to emerging threats

asr-001829
01:59:22.520 --> 01:59:24.390
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of OSAEC, CSAEM, and VE,

asr-001830
01:59:24.400 --> 01:59:26.470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and the other crimes I mentioned a

asr-001831
01:59:26.480 --> 01:59:28.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: while ago must be

asr-001832
01:59:28.320 --> 01:59:30.709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um leveled up because

asr-001833
01:59:30.719 --> 01:59:32.950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: in order for us to maintain Tier 1

asr-001834
01:59:32.960 --> 01:59:34.870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: status they need to see a

asr-001835
01:59:34.880 --> 01:59:36.550
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: constant improvement in

asr-001836
01:59:36.560 --> 01:59:39.030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our response mechanisms.

asr-001837
01:59:39.040 --> 01:59:41.030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So hindi lang po kung ano 'yung ginawa

asr-001838
01:59:41.040 --> 01:59:43.189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: natin last year, gagawin din natin ngayon.

asr-001839
01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:44.830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: What is important is we

asr-001840
01:59:44.840 --> 01:59:47.229
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: improve the response and

asr-001841
01:59:47.239 --> 01:59:49.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: at the very least restoration of

asr-001842
01:59:49.320 --> 01:59:51.229
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our budget will ensure

asr-001843
01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:53.405
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um sufficient support for that goal.

asr-001844
01:59:54.012 --> 02:00:04.430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And itong cyber crime din ba we always see nowadays na karamihan ng crimes are perpetrated through the internet and the use of other gadgets no.

asr-001845
02:00:04.440 --> 02:00:12.811
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So, anong impact naman nito na may 71% reduction sa budget ng anti-cybercrime enforcement?

asr-001846
02:00:13.385 --> 02:00:19.430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Uh your honor, a lot of these cyber enabled crimes are already perpetrated by

asr-001847
02:00:19.440 --> 02:00:24.990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: AI um systems. So we need to catch up in our response.

asr-001848
02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:32.109
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Um, yung hinihingi po naming restoration to the levels of the 2026 budget for the OOC, it's just to maintain

asr-001849
02:00:32.119 --> 02:00:37.790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our pace, no, to respond to these emerging threats. As I mentioned a while ago, we need to build

asr-001850
02:00:37.800 --> 02:00:43.990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our capacity both on the IT infrastructure, capability building of our personnel,

asr-001851
02:00:44.000 --> 02:00:50.350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: increased personnel both on the investigative agents as well as the policy determination

asr-001852
02:00:50.360 --> 02:00:56.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: arm of the Office of Cybercrime.

asr-001853
02:00:56.760 --> 02:01:02.750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And especially the international cooperation mechanism, because timely international

asr-001854
02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:08.510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: exchange of information leads to timely rescue operations and mas marami po tayong naa-identify na victims and

asr-001855
02:01:08.520 --> 02:01:14.776
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: perpetrators so we could create that nexus and that web of investigative leads.

asr-001856
02:01:15.232 --> 02:01:19.589
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Let me understand lang is this nangyari to because you're

asr-001857
02:01:19.599 --> 02:01:23.790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: unable to procure certain things ba or what ba ang use ng budget

asr-001858
02:01:23.800 --> 02:01:27.990
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: niyo before kasi medyo malaki yung budget niyo last year eh no

asr-001859
02:01:28.000 --> 02:01:31.830
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: from 119, ginawang 70; from 119, ginawang

asr-001860
02:01:31.840 --> 02:01:36.545
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 34; 112, ginawang 46. Ano, what's wrong?

asr-001861
02:01:36.815 --> 02:01:42.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Um, in terms po of the procurement side, naka-earmark naman na po 'yung

asr-001862
02:01:42.320 --> 02:01:48.470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: mga high ticket or high level programs So it's just a matter of ensuring that the procurement

asr-001863
02:01:48.480 --> 02:01:54.470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: process would be undertaken timely within the year. Um meron pong um instance

asr-001864
02:01:54.480 --> 02:01:59.950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: na nagkaroon po ng issuance din ang Malacañang um with a directive of

asr-001865
02:01:59.960 --> 02:02:05.430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: decreasing MOOE expenses by 20%. So isang bagay din po yon.

asr-001866
02:02:05.440 --> 02:02:11.790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And third, yung uh napi-pinpoint po naming need to create um alternative modes of

asr-001867
02:02:11.800 --> 02:02:17.910
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: procurement such as um maybe establishing and empowering our regional bids

asr-001868
02:02:17.920 --> 02:02:23.629
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and awards committee to increase the absorptive capacity in that sense to be able to keep

asr-001869
02:02:23.639 --> 02:02:29.735
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: abreast with the needs to procure with the need to procure these high level um programs.

asr-001870
02:02:29.903 --> 02:02:33.229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Are are these uh offices currently undergoing

asr-001871
02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:36.586
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: uh siguro manpower issues ba? Kulang ba kayo ng tao?

asr-001872
02:02:37.193 --> 02:02:41.510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Kulang na kulang po, Your Honor. Actually, sa

asr-001873
02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:47.229
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM, the plantilla positions created by the DBM are already completely

asr-001874
02:02:47.239 --> 02:02:50.430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: filled up.

asr-001875
02:02:50.440 --> 02:02:54.870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we need to create more plantilla positions for NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

asr-001876
02:02:54.880 --> 02:02:59.430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: However, even our temporary measure of hiring JOs and COS, hindi

asr-001877
02:02:59.440 --> 02:03:03.790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: rin po pinayagan ng DBM. So we have to make do with

asr-001878
02:03:03.800 --> 02:03:08.310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um resources in terms of manpower but at the same time

asr-001879
02:03:08.320 --> 02:03:12.790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: 'yun pong secondary trauma and um uh effect naman

asr-001880
02:03:12.800 --> 02:03:16.390
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: po on the people that we have now 'yun din po yung binabantayan natin.

asr-001881
02:03:16.400 --> 02:03:21.470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So with your support we hope that we could also advocate for the creation of

asr-001882
02:03:21.480 --> 02:03:26.047
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: 79 or so plantilla positions for NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

asr-001883
02:03:26.806 --> 02:03:27.870
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Thank you, Asec. Lapuz.

asr-001884
02:03:27.880 --> 02:03:29.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida.

asr-001885
02:03:29.400 --> 02:03:30.030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida,

asr-001886
02:03:30.040 --> 02:03:30.629
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: paano

asr-001887
02:03:30.639 --> 02:03:31.350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: po ba natin

asr-001888
02:03:31.360 --> 02:03:32.550
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ma-address ang issues nila?

asr-001889
02:03:32.560 --> 02:03:34.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-001890
02:03:34.280 --> 02:03:36.629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Uh, I—we

asr-001891
02:03:36.639 --> 02:03:38.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: propose for a

asr-001892
02:03:38.239 --> 02:03:40.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: parallel, basically

asr-001893
02:03:40.679 --> 02:03:41.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mirroring 'yung 2026.

asr-001894
02:03:41.880 --> 02:03:44.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But if you look at

asr-001895
02:03:44.119 --> 02:03:45.629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the numbers, Your Honor,

asr-001896
02:03:45.639 --> 02:03:47.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po kasing 'yung SICA last

asr-001897
02:03:47.199 --> 02:03:49.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: which uh yun yung nawala

asr-001898
02:03:49.159 --> 02:03:50.629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po.

asr-001899
02:03:50.639 --> 02:03:52.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So I don't want to

asr-001900
02:03:52.760 --> 02:03:54.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: speculate how the DBM did

asr-001901
02:03:54.880 --> 02:03:56.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it but apparently

asr-001902
02:03:56.880 --> 02:03:58.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it's it's that figure that was

asr-001903
02:03:58.599 --> 02:04:00.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lost

asr-001904
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:02.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: No, 'yung SICA ng

asr-001905
02:04:02.239 --> 02:04:04.069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: budget ng 2026

asr-001906
02:04:04.079 --> 02:04:05.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yun po yung hindi

asr-001907
02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:07.812
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: minirror for 2027

asr-001908
02:04:08.774 --> 02:04:10.470
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: All right. Now, 'di ba,

asr-001909
02:04:10.480 --> 02:04:12.430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: kasi ang mangyayari po is

asr-001910
02:04:12.440 --> 02:04:13.790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: if they're supposed to be

asr-001911
02:04:13.800 --> 02:04:15.350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: procuring these things

asr-001912
02:04:15.360 --> 02:04:17.069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: last year at tinanggal

asr-001913
02:04:17.079 --> 02:04:19.790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: sa budget this year mas lalong hindi nila mapro-procure.

asr-001914
02:04:19.800 --> 02:04:20.317
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Tama po ba?

asr-001915
02:04:21.042 --> 02:04:22.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah hindi naman po.

asr-001916
02:04:22.800 --> 02:04:25.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah kasi may may mga bagay po na

asr-001917
02:04:25.599 --> 02:04:27.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: recurring expense eh.

asr-001918
02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:30.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Yung recurring expense, 'yun po ang problema.

asr-001919
02:04:30.320 --> 02:04:31.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah kung kung ito

asr-001920
02:04:31.239 --> 02:04:34.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po ay one time expense ah tapos na.

asr-001921
02:04:34.320 --> 02:04:34.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero yung

asr-001922
02:04:34.760 --> 02:04:37.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: paulit-ulit na gastos no

asr-001923
02:04:37.280 --> 02:04:39.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na pumapasok ang karamihan ng

asr-001924
02:04:39.440 --> 02:04:41.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: MOOE natin at saka yung personal

asr-001925
02:04:41.360 --> 02:04:43.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: services yun po ang problema.

asr-001926
02:04:43.880 --> 02:04:45.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So ang nakikita

asr-001927
02:04:45.280 --> 02:04:47.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lang po namin ah pero basically

asr-001928
02:04:47.599 --> 02:04:49.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that's what the figures say.

asr-001929
02:04:49.440 --> 02:04:51.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Yung SICA last year na dinagdag

asr-001930
02:04:51.440 --> 02:04:53.390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng HGAB, no?

asr-001931
02:04:53.400 --> 02:04:55.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nadagdagan kami sa HGAB kasi nung

asr-001932
02:04:55.480 --> 02:04:57.390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nag-budget hearing and

asr-001933
02:04:57.400 --> 02:04:59.709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: also nung nakarating sa Senate

asr-001934
02:04:59.719 --> 02:05:01.709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah yun yung nawala ngayon for

asr-001935
02:05:01.719 --> 02:05:04.069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nep 2027

asr-001936
02:05:04.079 --> 02:05:05.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so ah baka

asr-001937
02:05:05.199 --> 02:05:07.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po I don't baka po walang

asr-001938
02:05:07.520 --> 02:05:09.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kinalaman doon sa absorptive capacity

asr-001939
02:05:09.920 --> 02:05:11.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kundi may kinalaman lang doon

asr-001940
02:05:11.480 --> 02:05:13.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa kung ano lang yung

asr-001941
02:05:13.159 --> 02:05:15.549
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: NEP 2026 yun din

asr-001942
02:05:15.559 --> 02:05:17.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang itinawid na NEP

asr-001943
02:05:17.880 --> 02:05:19.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2027 7 without

asr-001944
02:05:19.599 --> 02:05:21.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: considering yung idinagdag

asr-001945
02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:24.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na ng Congress, for

asr-001946
02:05:24.119 --> 02:05:25.709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for—na

asr-001947
02:05:25.719 --> 02:05:27.783
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: naging GAA 2026.

asr-001948
02:05:27.867 --> 02:05:29.229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So, 'yung original NEP niyo,

asr-001949
02:05:29.239 --> 02:05:30.669
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: without the HGAB?

asr-001950
02:05:30.679 --> 02:05:32.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Ah, okay, 'yun lang ang pinasa.

asr-001951
02:05:33.440 --> 02:05:35.320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tingin ko po, 'yun po 'yung lumalabas sa data.

asr-001952
02:05:35.920 --> 02:05:37.910
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Right, but would you agree

asr-001953
02:05:37.920 --> 02:05:40.270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: with Asec. Lapuz na

asr-001954
02:05:40.280 --> 02:05:42.040
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: kailangan maibalik at least to that level?

asr-001955
02:05:42.559 --> 02:05:43.280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Definitely po.

asr-001956
02:05:43.559 --> 02:05:46.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Lalo na po yung pag-maintenance natin sa tier one.

asr-001957
02:05:46.520 --> 02:05:47.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Malaking bagay po to.

asr-001958
02:05:47.599 --> 02:05:49.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At saka yung engagement natin, benchmarking

asr-001959
02:05:49.520 --> 02:05:51.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: natin internationally.

asr-001960
02:05:51.239 --> 02:05:53.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tulad po ngayon, patuloy po ang pakikipag-uusap

asr-001961
02:05:53.480 --> 02:05:55.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: natin sa kanila ah

asr-001962
02:05:55.440 --> 02:05:57.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the registry of sex offenders.

asr-001963
02:05:57.040 --> 02:05:59.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, the European countries have very

asr-001964
02:05:59.159 --> 02:06:01.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: strict data privacy.

asr-001965
02:06:01.280 --> 02:06:03.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hirap na hirap akong ma-extract sa kanila.

asr-001966
02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:04.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bigyan niyo kami ng data.

asr-001967
02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:07.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Baka kasi mga Pilipino na nabibiktima,

asr-001968
02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:10.069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we're continuously engaging with them.

asr-001969
02:06:10.079 --> 02:06:11.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah, posible ba

asr-001970
02:06:11.159 --> 02:06:12.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: through police assistance, the mutual

asr-001971
02:06:12.920 --> 02:06:15.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: legal assistance agreements

asr-001972
02:06:15.360 --> 02:06:17.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with other countries?

asr-001973
02:06:17.119 --> 02:06:18.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Possible.

asr-001974
02:06:18.119 --> 02:06:21.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero dun sa direct lang po na

asr-001975
02:06:21.159 --> 02:06:22.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: direct lang po extraction

asr-001976
02:06:22.760 --> 02:06:25.069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or us to be able to harvest 'yung data

asr-001977
02:06:25.079 --> 02:06:26.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nila ng foreign

asr-001978
02:06:26.760 --> 02:06:28.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sex offenders na traveling in the

asr-001979
02:06:28.440 --> 02:06:30.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Philippines, issue na po sa atin

asr-001980
02:06:30.840 --> 02:06:32.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yun kasi they have data

asr-001981
02:06:32.679 --> 02:06:34.709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: privacy laws that prohibit their

asr-001982
02:06:34.719 --> 02:06:36.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: authorities from uh

asr-001983
02:06:36.760 --> 02:06:38.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sharing that data and

asr-001984
02:06:38.840 --> 02:06:40.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: information with us.

asr-001985
02:06:40.360 --> 02:06:42.430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But we're working on

asr-001986
02:06:42.440 --> 02:06:44.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: this uh various

asr-001987
02:06:44.520 --> 02:06:47.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: engagements with counterparts po natin.

asr-001988
02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:48.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya your honor

asr-001989
02:06:48.480 --> 02:06:50.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: napakalaga ho 'yung continuing engagement

asr-001990
02:06:50.880 --> 02:06:52.390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng teams natin, particularly

asr-001991
02:06:52.400 --> 02:06:54.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: our NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

asr-001992
02:06:54.679 --> 02:06:56.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Yung counterparts nila.

asr-001993
02:06:56.239 --> 02:06:58.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because a bigger part of the work

asr-001994
02:06:58.320 --> 02:07:00.629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is the human to human

asr-001995
02:07:00.639 --> 02:07:02.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: networking.

asr-001996
02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:04.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag may kaibigan ka na po doon sa

asr-001997
02:07:04.040 --> 02:07:05.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: counterpart mo mas dumadali po

asr-001998
02:07:06.000 --> 02:07:09.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung yung sharing po ng data at saka yung work po.

asr-001999
02:07:09.360 --> 02:07:10.231
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Mas dumadali po

asr-002000
02:07:11.294 --> 02:07:13.189
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Thank you, Sec. Mr.

asr-002001
02:07:13.199 --> 02:07:15.270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair narinig po natin no na hopefully we

asr-002002
02:07:15.280 --> 02:07:17.350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: can do something about it kahit man lang ma-restore

asr-002003
02:07:17.360 --> 02:07:20.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: lang to the 2026 levels po Mr.

asr-002004
02:07:20.400 --> 02:07:21.229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair.

asr-002005
02:07:21.239 --> 02:07:22.950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Anyway, another topic, Secretary Vida.

asr-002006
02:07:22.960 --> 02:07:25.069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida, 'di ba,

asr-002007
02:07:25.079 --> 02:07:27.189
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: for every creation of a new

asr-002008
02:07:27.199 --> 02:07:29.249
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: court, dapat may isang fiscal din kayo?

asr-002009
02:07:30.920 --> 02:07:31.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

asr-002010
02:07:31.599 --> 02:07:34.350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: actually uh under the law uh for every

asr-002011
02:07:34.360 --> 02:07:36.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: regional trial court two

asr-002012
02:07:36.480 --> 02:07:37.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: prosecutors for

asr-002013
02:07:37.800 --> 02:07:39.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: every municipal or first

asr-002014
02:07:39.920 --> 02:07:41.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: level court the city courts

asr-002015
02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:43.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it should be one is to one.

asr-002016
02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:45.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: One MTC,

asr-002017
02:07:45.679 --> 02:07:47.187
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: one prosecutor position.

asr-002018
02:07:47.187 --> 02:07:49.069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: okay now ah pagpasa po

asr-002019
02:07:49.079 --> 02:07:50.589
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ba ng law

asr-002020
02:07:50.599 --> 02:07:52.430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: creating that particular court dapat

asr-002021
02:07:52.440 --> 02:07:54.443
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: may prosecutors na kayong nilalagay

asr-002022
02:07:54.629 --> 02:07:56.390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah based on our agreement with the

asr-002023
02:07:56.400 --> 02:07:58.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: DBM it should be after the court

asr-002024
02:07:58.760 --> 02:08:00.709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: has been organized pero mabilis

asr-002025
02:08:00.719 --> 02:08:02.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na po ang DBM ngayon uh they are

asr-002026
02:08:02.679 --> 02:08:04.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: able to catch up once they organize the

asr-002027
02:08:04.800 --> 02:08:06.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: court already Congress creates

asr-002028
02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:08.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the court then the Supreme

asr-002029
02:08:08.800 --> 02:08:10.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Court through after administrative

asr-002030
02:08:10.599 --> 02:08:13.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: processes they organize the court

asr-002031
02:08:13.040 --> 02:08:15.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakaka-trigger na rin po iyun ng request

asr-002032
02:08:15.040 --> 02:08:17.039
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: namin for new prosecutorial position

asr-002033
02:08:17.039 --> 02:08:19.149
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: yeah but that's my issue with ano eh the

asr-002034
02:08:19.159 --> 02:08:21.109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Supreme Court eh usually we create

asr-002035
02:08:21.119 --> 02:08:23.109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: courts pagpasa ng bill namin

asr-002036
02:08:23.119 --> 02:08:25.149
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: average of 5 years bago

asr-002037
02:08:25.159 --> 02:08:26.910
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: nila ma-organize yung ano kahit na

asr-002038
02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:28.910
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: funded na yun for the for the first

asr-002039
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:30.990
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 5 years ha tsaka tsaka pa

asr-002040
02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:32.950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: nila nao-organize 5 years ang minimum

asr-002041
02:08:32.960 --> 02:08:35.109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ha minsan more than that pa

asr-002042
02:08:35.119 --> 02:08:36.470
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: no so do you wait

asr-002043
02:08:36.480 --> 02:08:39.350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: until uh it's organized

asr-002044
02:08:39.360 --> 02:08:41.018
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: bago kayo kukuha ng fiscals?

asr-002045
02:08:41.018 --> 02:08:43.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yes uh that's the

asr-002046
02:08:43.040 --> 02:08:45.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that's a trigger uh

asr-002047
02:08:45.119 --> 02:08:46.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: time that's a trigger event

asr-002048
02:08:46.960 --> 02:08:48.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the DBM to issue us the

asr-002049
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:50.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: prosecutorial—'yung ano ho, 'yung

asr-002050
02:08:50.840 --> 02:08:52.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: NOSCA. Bago nila kami bigyan

asr-002051
02:08:53.000 --> 02:08:54.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng NOSCA,

asr-002052
02:08:54.920 --> 02:08:56.898
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: inaantay nila na organized na 'yung court.

asr-002053
02:08:57.083 --> 02:08:59.440
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So, we all wait for the Supreme Court to organize it.

asr-002054
02:08:59.559 --> 02:08:59.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, sir.

asr-002055
02:09:00.119 --> 02:09:03.229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Even if it's already funded, it's already ano for the past years.

asr-002056
02:09:03.239 --> 02:09:03.950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Alam naman natin, 'di

asr-002057
02:09:03.960 --> 02:09:05.830
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ba, usually that's what happens, eh.

asr-002058
02:09:05.840 --> 02:09:07.830
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: It's always my pet peeve. Every time

asr-002059
02:09:07.840 --> 02:09:10.310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: they sila pa mismo nag ah sa-suggest

asr-002060
02:09:10.320 --> 02:09:12.350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: minsan na dagdagan 'yung courts etc etc

asr-002061
02:09:12.360 --> 02:09:14.229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: but then they don't fill it up naman

asr-002062
02:09:14.239 --> 02:09:16.430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and it takes them a long time before it's filled up.

asr-002063
02:09:16.440 --> 02:09:18.109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So sayang din yung pondo na

asr-002064
02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:20.219
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: pumupunta doon for the unorganized courts.

asr-002065
02:09:21.417 --> 02:09:24.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Totoo po 'yan. Real issue po on the ground.

asr-002066
02:09:24.239 --> 02:09:25.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It's true naman, 'di ba?

asr-002067
02:09:25.520 --> 02:09:26.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yeah. Oo.

asr-002068
02:09:26.239 --> 02:09:29.310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah ang maganda lang po your honor eh the law

asr-002069
02:09:29.320 --> 02:09:31.629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the NPS law was enacted

asr-002070
02:09:31.639 --> 02:09:33.069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2010.

asr-002071
02:09:33.079 --> 02:09:34.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nag-start lang tayo ng actual

asr-002072
02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:37.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: implementation noong 2024.

asr-002073
02:09:37.800 --> 02:09:39.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So kaya po ito 'yung

asr-002074
02:09:39.119 --> 02:09:40.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: creation na ng 1,000 new

asr-002075
02:09:40.760 --> 02:09:42.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: prosecutorial positions.

asr-002076
02:09:42.679 --> 02:09:45.229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We advocated that with the DBM.

asr-002077
02:09:45.239 --> 02:09:47.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We pushed for that.

asr-002078
02:09:47.760 --> 02:09:48.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Now, it's ongoing.

asr-002079
02:09:49.280 --> 02:09:51.100
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Wait. You said 2024 lang.

asr-002080
02:09:51.559 --> 02:09:51.800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

asr-002081
02:09:51.960 --> 02:09:53.200
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So nag-catch up pa kayo?

asr-002082
02:09:53.840 --> 02:09:54.050
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

asr-002083
02:09:54.199 --> 02:09:57.300
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Actually ilang courts yun? From 2010 to 2024.

asr-002084
02:09:57.760 --> 02:10:00.030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala pong na-create

asr-002085
02:10:00.040 --> 02:10:02.508
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na prosecutorial position. That's 14 years. Opo.

asr-002086
02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:04.200
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Eh, marami-rami iyon.

asr-002087
02:10:04.520 --> 02:10:05.669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

asr-002088
02:10:05.679 --> 02:10:08.069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's why the journey po is from

asr-002089
02:10:08.079 --> 02:10:10.629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2,700 to

asr-002090
02:10:10.639 --> 02:10:12.270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 4,600.

asr-002091
02:10:12.280 --> 02:10:14.589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And uh the target timeline po

asr-002092
02:10:14.599 --> 02:10:16.189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is before the end of

asr-002093
02:10:16.199 --> 02:10:17.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the term of the

asr-002094
02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:20.559
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: President, before June 2028 po.

asr-002095
02:10:21.000 --> 02:10:23.030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Okay. Thank you, Secretary Vida.

asr-002096
02:10:23.040 --> 02:10:24.750
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Uh Mr. Chair again I would like to reiterate

asr-002097
02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:26.629
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: my request po sana na

asr-002098
02:10:26.639 --> 02:10:28.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and with the prayer of also

asr-002099
02:10:28.400 --> 02:10:30.270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida na kahit man

asr-002100
02:10:30.280 --> 02:10:32.270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: lang ma-restore 'yung budget for the

asr-002101
02:10:32.280 --> 02:10:34.390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: anti-trafficking persons,

asr-002102
02:10:34.400 --> 02:10:36.430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: the cyber crime enforcement

asr-002103
02:10:36.440 --> 02:10:38.950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and OSAEC to the 2026

asr-002104
02:10:38.960 --> 02:10:39.667
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: levels. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-002105
02:10:40.443 --> 02:10:43.229
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The request is noted.

asr-002106
02:10:43.239 --> 02:10:44.669
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you,

asr-002107
02:10:44.679 --> 02:10:46.709
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Jonathan Keith Flores.

asr-002108
02:10:46.719 --> 02:10:48.390
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Actually,

asr-002109
02:10:48.400 --> 02:10:50.709
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Actually marami pong request para po

asr-002110
02:10:50.719 --> 02:10:52.709
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ma-fully operationalize

asr-002111
02:10:52.719 --> 02:10:55.270
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: yung mandato po ng DOJ.

asr-002112
02:10:55.280 --> 02:10:56.750
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So at the proper time

asr-002113
02:10:56.760 --> 02:10:58.870
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we'll tackle it rin dito sa committee.

asr-002114
02:11:00.559 --> 02:11:01.467
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So next in line,

asr-002115
02:11:01.991 --> 02:11:03.195
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Allan Ty,

asr-002116
02:11:03.265 --> 02:11:03.964
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: from the minority po.

asr-002117
02:11:04.400 --> 02:11:06.416
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To

asr-002118
02:11:06.416 --> 02:11:08.772
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Secretary Vida, based

asr-002119
02:11:08.772 --> 02:11:10.769
Rep. Allan U. Ty: on your performance indicators,

asr-002120
02:11:11.428 --> 02:11:12.625
Rep. Allan U. Ty: percentage of criminal

asr-002121
02:11:12.625 --> 02:11:14.841
Rep. Allan U. Ty: complaints resolved during the

asr-002122
02:11:14.841 --> 02:11:17.038
Rep. Allan U. Ty: period for FY 2025

asr-002123
02:11:17.038 --> 02:11:18.834
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is 99.12%.

asr-002124
02:11:18.874 --> 02:11:20.971
Rep. Allan U. Ty: For first semester,

asr-002125
02:11:20.971 --> 02:11:23.027
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for the first semester of 2026. Can you kindly

asr-002126
02:11:23.027 --> 02:11:25.063
Rep. Allan U. Ty: confirm?

asr-002127
02:11:25.063 --> 02:11:26.401
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, I do confirm, Your Honor.

asr-002128
02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:29.160
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Percentage of cases pending within

asr-002129
02:11:29.160 --> 02:11:31.217
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 120 days. Fiscal

asr-002130
02:11:31.217 --> 02:11:33.070
Rep. Allan U. Ty: year 2025, it's 89.35%.

asr-002131
02:11:34.415 --> 02:11:35.351
Rep. Allan U. Ty: And

asr-002132
02:11:35.351 --> 02:11:37.368
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for first semester of 2026,

asr-002133
02:11:37.612 --> 02:11:39.180
Rep. Allan U. Ty: it's 85.25%.

asr-002134
02:11:39.954 --> 02:11:41.217
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you kindly confirm?

asr-002135
02:11:42.520 --> 02:11:43.359
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, I

asr-002136
02:11:43.359 --> 02:11:45.056
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: do confirm, Your Honor.

asr-002137
02:11:45.476 --> 02:11:46.461
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, do these percentages

asr-002138
02:11:46.461 --> 02:11:48.505
Rep. Allan U. Ty: represent cases before the

asr-002139
02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:50.129
Rep. Allan U. Ty: National Prosecution Service

asr-002140
02:11:50.129 --> 02:11:52.392
Rep. Allan U. Ty: and/or

asr-002141
02:11:52.392 --> 02:11:54.217
Rep. Allan U. Ty: cases pending before the

asr-002142
02:11:54.217 --> 02:11:55.312
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Office of the Secretary,

asr-002143
02:11:56.187 --> 02:11:57.063
Rep. Allan U. Ty: the Petition for Review?

asr-002144
02:12:00.430 --> 02:12:01.532
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: These are the

asr-002145
02:12:01.532 --> 02:12:03.736
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: cases pending in the field offices, sir.

asr-002146
02:12:03.927 --> 02:12:05.791
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under the National Prosecution Service?

asr-002147
02:12:05.791 --> 02:12:08.038
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-002148
02:12:08.038 --> 02:12:10.263
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about the performance indicators for Petition

asr-002149
02:12:10.263 --> 02:12:12.000
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for Review? Can I get,

asr-002150
02:12:12.191 --> 02:12:14.141
Rep. Allan U. Ty: can you tell us the percentage

asr-002151
02:12:14.141 --> 02:12:16.366
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of those resolved cases

asr-002152
02:12:16.366 --> 02:12:18.612
Rep. Allan U. Ty: pending before your office?

asr-002153
02:12:22.013 --> 02:12:22.834
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We can't

asr-002154
02:12:22.854 --> 02:12:24.997
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: say that, sir. Earlier, I have a ballpark

asr-002155
02:12:24.997 --> 02:12:26.439
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: figure since

asr-002156
02:12:26.439 --> 02:12:30.885
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I assumed office, Your Honor.

asr-002157
02:12:31.526 --> 02:12:32.468
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I have resolved

asr-002158
02:12:32.468 --> 02:12:34.170
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more or less 400

asr-002159
02:12:34.170 --> 02:12:36.293
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: petitions for review cases.

asr-002160
02:12:36.773 --> 02:12:38.396
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Out of 16,000

asr-002161
02:12:38.396 --> 02:12:40.939
Rep. Allan U. Ty: petitions for review, as you earlier mentioned. Am I correct?

asr-002162
02:12:41.059 --> 02:12:42.762
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-002163
02:12:42.762 --> 02:12:44.825
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the percentage of that

asr-002164
02:12:44.825 --> 02:12:46.968
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 400 cases

asr-002165
02:12:46.968 --> 02:12:49.111
Rep. Allan U. Ty: against 16,000 cases?

asr-002166
02:12:50.853 --> 02:12:52.616
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That would be just around

asr-002167
02:12:52.616 --> 02:12:54.418
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2.5%, Your Honor.

asr-002168
02:12:54.599 --> 02:12:56.341
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Only 2.5%?

asr-002169
02:12:56.482 --> 02:12:58.705
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, so can you

asr-002170
02:12:58.705 --> 02:13:00.788
Rep. Allan U. Ty: please tell, can you put a

asr-002171
02:13:00.788 --> 02:13:02.731
Rep. Allan U. Ty: breakdown as to the year

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: they were filed or elevated

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02:13:04.734 --> 02:13:06.917
Rep. Allan U. Ty: before the Department, the 16,000 cases?

asr-002174
02:13:06.917 --> 02:13:08.920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes. These 16,000

asr-002175
02:13:08.920 --> 02:13:10.743
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: cases pending before the Office

asr-002176
02:13:10.743 --> 02:13:12.686
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the Secretary were those filed

asr-002177
02:13:12.686 --> 02:13:14.268
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from January 1, 2020

asr-002178
02:13:14.268 --> 02:13:16.672
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to November 11, 2025.

asr-002179
02:13:17.313 --> 02:13:18.966
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for those prior years?

asr-002180
02:13:19.106 --> 02:13:20.879
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let's say 10 years back,

asr-002181
02:13:20.879 --> 02:13:22.612
Rep. Allan U. Ty: five years old,

asr-002182
02:13:22.632 --> 02:13:24.743
Rep. Allan U. Ty: ten years old. Do you have a breakdown of the case?

asr-002183
02:13:24.743 --> 02:13:26.596
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, we can

asr-002184
02:13:26.596 --> 02:13:28.767
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: submit to you, Your Honor. But it's

asr-002185
02:13:28.767 --> 02:13:30.878
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: approximately 10,000 cases,

asr-002186
02:13:31.237 --> 02:13:32.651
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: all cases prior to

asr-002187
02:13:32.651 --> 02:13:33.846
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: January 1, 2020.

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02:13:34.643 --> 02:13:36.316
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So roughly, Mr. Secretary, how

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02:13:36.316 --> 02:13:38.075
Rep. Allan U. Ty: many, percentage-wise,

asr-002190
02:13:38.162 --> 02:13:39.886
Rep. Allan U. Ty: how many cases do you resolve in one

asr-002191
02:13:39.886 --> 02:13:41.542
Rep. Allan U. Ty: year for petition for review?

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02:13:44.043 --> 02:13:47.214
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: There's a mix depending on

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02:13:47.214 --> 02:13:49.506
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor. But for my

asr-002194
02:13:49.506 --> 02:13:51.306
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: particular timeline, Your Honor,

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02:13:51.584 --> 02:13:52.656
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: starting in

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02:13:52.656 --> 02:13:55.891
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: February this year

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02:13:55.891 --> 02:13:57.091
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: up to

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02:13:57.091 --> 02:14:00.111
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: today, Your Honor, I've resolved

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02:14:00.111 --> 02:14:01.654
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more than 400 cases.

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02:14:02.211 --> 02:14:04.760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So basically, on a year-to-year,

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02:14:04.846 --> 02:14:06.025
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we can submit that, Your Honor.

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02:14:06.453 --> 02:14:08.589
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Correct. But as you mentioned also,

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02:14:08.730 --> 02:14:10.301
Rep. Allan U. Ty: that's only 2.5%.

asr-002204
02:14:10.301 --> 02:14:12.659
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So you have still

asr-002205
02:14:12.659 --> 02:14:14.895
Rep. Allan U. Ty: a long way to go

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02:14:14.895 --> 02:14:16.608
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to dispose all the

asr-002207
02:14:16.608 --> 02:14:18.482
Rep. Allan U. Ty: petitions for review. Thank you,

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02:14:18.583 --> 02:14:22.411
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary. Mr. Secretary,

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02:14:22.411 --> 02:14:23.922
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is there no timeline

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02:14:24.406 --> 02:14:25.776
Rep. Allan U. Ty: provided under the

asr-002211
02:14:25.776 --> 02:14:28.637
Rep. Allan U. Ty: rules on

asr-002212
02:14:28.637 --> 02:14:30.551
Rep. Allan U. Ty: petition for review that the

asr-002213
02:14:30.551 --> 02:14:32.324
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Office of the Secretary must resolve

asr-002214
02:14:32.324 --> 02:14:34.621
Rep. Allan U. Ty: those pending petitions for review?

asr-002215
02:14:34.621 --> 02:14:36.535
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If we

asr-002216
02:14:36.535 --> 02:14:38.067
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: do look at, if we

asr-002217
02:14:38.067 --> 02:14:40.686
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: coordinate

asr-002218
02:14:40.686 --> 02:14:42.802
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it with the rules of court, basically,

asr-002219
02:14:43.043 --> 02:14:44.736
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag tinignan po natin, may

asr-002220
02:14:44.736 --> 02:14:46.852
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 60 days po na dini-defer ng court

asr-002221
02:14:46.852 --> 02:14:48.866
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung case. But time

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02:14:48.866 --> 02:14:50.640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and motion will tell you, hindi ho

asr-002223
02:14:50.640 --> 02:14:52.715
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: talaga kaya ng 60 days.

asr-002225
02:14:53.903 --> 02:14:55.335
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dahil na rin po sa dami.

asr-002226
02:14:55.800 --> 02:14:58.237
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tulad po ng nabanggit, ang nakikita po naming datos,

asr-002227
02:14:58.706 --> 02:15:01.537
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 200 per week petitions pina-file ho dito.

asr-002228
02:15:02.194 --> 02:15:03.487
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Since I assumed as Secretary.

asr-002229
02:15:04.256 --> 02:15:07.931
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya nga po, ang amin pong strategy doon is,

asr-002230
02:15:08.362 --> 02:15:12.956
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: my eight undersecretaries have been deputized and authorized to resolve those cases.

asr-002231
02:15:13.556 --> 02:15:15.599
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So if it's 800 per month,

asr-002232
02:15:15.599 --> 02:15:20.624
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang tina-target po naming clearance rate for every undersecretary is 100 per month.

asr-002233
02:15:20.624 --> 02:15:23.202
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So that's still a...

asr-002234
02:15:23.913 --> 02:15:27.047
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi this is in addition to their other duties and tasks.

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02:15:29.722 --> 02:15:34.466
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So yung 16,000 po, most probably, kailan nyo po mareresolve?

asr-002236
02:15:34.800 --> 02:15:36.681
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Given the timeline that you just stated.

asr-002237
02:15:43.180 --> 02:15:48.236
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With our current system, especially with the publication we made for the older cases,

asr-002238
02:15:48.874 --> 02:15:51.342
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: what we're targeting is from February,

asr-002239
02:15:51.342 --> 02:15:58.548
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hopefully po, after the first quarter of next year, we have a clearer picture po.

asr-002240
02:15:58.767 --> 02:15:59.683
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: On the 16,000.

asr-002241
02:16:00.798 --> 02:16:05.609
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you please provide this committee the breakdown of all those pending cases per year?

asr-002242
02:16:06.113 --> 02:16:07.958
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will, Your Honor.

asr-002243
02:16:13.606 --> 02:16:17.050
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, can you go over your budget, proposed budget,

asr-002244
02:16:17.435 --> 02:16:20.686
Rep. Allan U. Ty: under MOOE for fiscal year 2027?

asr-002245
02:16:20.686 --> 02:16:28.580
Rep. Allan U. Ty: There is a sub-expense labeled as other maintenance and operating expenses.

asr-002246
02:16:29.756 --> 02:16:32.494
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What expenses are covered by this account?

asr-002247
02:16:38.644 --> 02:16:40.334
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under object of expenditure.

asr-002248
02:16:40.569 --> 02:16:41.104
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary.

asr-002249
02:17:09.158 --> 02:17:16.227
DOJ budget representative: For the proposed budget for fiscal year 2027,

asr-002250
02:17:16.721 --> 02:17:21.838
DOJ budget representative: Other maintenance and operating expenses would amount to 114,309,000.

asr-002251
02:17:22.523 --> 02:17:24.964
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, I'm not asking about the amount.

asr-002252
02:17:24.964 --> 02:17:32.903
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I'm asking about the expenses covered by other MOOE.

asr-002253
02:17:59.598 --> 02:18:02.843
DOJ budget representative: This would cover advertising expenses,

asr-002254
02:18:02.943 --> 02:18:07.489
DOJ budget representative: Printing and publication expenses, representation expenses,

asr-002255
02:18:07.489 --> 02:18:13.899
DOJ budget representative: transportation and delivery expenses, rent for buildings and structures and rents for equipment,

asr-002256
02:18:14.720 --> 02:18:19.246
DOJ budget representative: then ICT software subscription and other subscription expenses, Your Honor.

asr-002257
02:18:19.747 --> 02:18:25.974
Rep. Allan U. Ty: There is a sub-label similar to other maintenance and operating expenses.

asr-002258
02:18:26.453 --> 02:18:27.152
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you confirm?

asr-002259
02:18:30.665 --> 02:18:32.034
DOJ budget representative: Yes, Your Honor.

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02:18:32.605 --> 02:18:36.068
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What possible expenses are covered by this similar?

asr-002261
02:18:36.087 --> 02:18:43.992
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Similar label, aside from what you have already mentioned.

asr-002262
02:18:54.330 --> 02:19:08.873
DOJ budget representative: Other similar expenses would be [unclear].

asr-002263
02:19:12.751 --> 02:19:22.450
DOJ budget representative: This would basically cover possible increases of those similar objects of expenditure, Your Honor, I would assume.

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02:19:23.281 --> 02:19:24.302
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

asr-002265
02:19:24.812 --> 02:19:26.139
Rep. Allan U. Ty: To Commissioner Viado.

asr-002266
02:19:27.731 --> 02:19:28.220
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner.

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02:19:28.445 --> 02:19:28.760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, sir.

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02:19:28.760 --> 02:19:29.204
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Good afternoon.

asr-002269
02:19:29.322 --> 02:19:32.101
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner, could you explain what the border,

asr-002270
02:19:32.188 --> 02:19:36.565
Rep. Allan U. Ty: border management information system, or BMIS, is?

asr-002271
02:19:39.278 --> 02:19:40.689
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sir, good afternoon.

asr-002272
02:19:40.810 --> 02:19:50.143
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Congressman Ty, for giving us the opportunity to explain and to build trust with the Filipino people concerning this matter.

asr-002273
02:19:50.808 --> 02:19:57.279
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The large-scale border security system is needed at this point

asr-002274
02:19:58.670 --> 02:20:04.153
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: because this pertains to a technology-driven, AI-driven,

asr-002275
02:20:04.697 --> 02:20:08.608
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: biometric-driven kind of border control, Your Honor.

asr-002276
02:20:08.930 --> 02:20:14.574
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The concept really is to extend our borders beyond the actual physical border of the Philippines.

asr-002277
02:20:15.381 --> 02:20:26.468
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We plan to institute a system wherein even if a passenger is in another country and is not qualified to enter the Philippines,

asr-002278
02:20:26.468 --> 02:20:31.588
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: he will be prevented from doing so using this technology-driven system, Your Honor.

asr-002279
02:20:33.160 --> 02:20:34.705
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the total project?

asr-002280
02:20:34.741 --> 02:20:36.537
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the total project cost of BMIS?

asr-002281
02:20:37.345 --> 02:20:41.068
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The total project cost—this is a PPP project, Your Honor.

asr-002282
02:20:41.678 --> 02:20:51.118
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The total project cost for the first five years will be shouldered by the private proponent, amounting to about 10.7 billion, Your Honor.

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02:20:51.423 --> 02:21:03.873
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But in the next 20 years, they will put in additional capital and maintenance expenses, amounting to about 52.5 billion, Your Honor.

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02:21:03.873 --> 02:21:04.649
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much is that?

asr-002285
02:21:04.665 --> 02:21:06.218
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much is the national government share?

asr-002286
02:21:06.218 --> 02:21:14.380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The government share would amount to, for passengers, the cost would be about $4, Your Honor.

asr-002287
02:21:14.380 --> 02:21:18.462
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: $3.80 will go to the private proponent and $0.20 will go to the Philippine government, Your Honor.

asr-002288
02:21:19.482 --> 02:21:24.219
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Is there no allocations made to BMIS by the national government?

asr-002289
02:21:26.114 --> 02:21:33.261
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At this point, Your Honor, the intention really is to adopt a stepladder approach.

asr-002290
02:21:34.281 --> 02:21:44.572
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Any budget that has been allocated by government at this point, sad to say, in a way, is lacking.

asr-002291
02:21:45.512 --> 02:21:55.313
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So this PVP project will make up for any differences or any shortfalls that we might have as far as border control is concerned, Your Honor.

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02:21:56.742 --> 02:22:03.555
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Based on your 2024 GAA, there's an allocation of four-point-something billion for BMIS.

asr-002293
02:22:04.734 --> 02:22:06.732
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you kindly confirm?

asr-002294
02:22:06.732 --> 02:22:16.700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the year 2024, I think it was 1.9 billion, Your Honor, for the e-Gates project.

asr-002295
02:22:17.667 --> 02:22:23.118
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So there is a government fund used for the BMIS project?

asr-002296
02:22:23.118 --> 02:22:26.140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor, for the E-Gates project.

asr-002297
02:22:26.140 --> 02:22:32.185
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Initially, it was funded at around 1.9 billion, but eventually it was reduced.

asr-002298
02:22:32.185 --> 02:22:35.208
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The winning bidder submitted a proposal.

asr-002299
02:22:35.208 --> 02:22:39.238
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Which was eventually accepted, which amounted to 1.5 billion.

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02:22:39.238 --> 02:22:43.268
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But, Your Honor, this only pertains to the E-Gates project.

asr-002301
02:22:43.268 --> 02:22:50.320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It does not pertain to any total border control system, which the private proponent is proposing, Your Honor.

asr-002302
02:22:50.320 --> 02:22:56.497
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So the total appropriation release of 1.5 billion, as you mentioned, how much has been obligated?

asr-002303
02:22:57.526 --> 02:22:59.585
Rep. Allan U. Ty: And how much has been disbursed?

asr-002304
02:22:59.585 --> 02:23:01.019
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: I will confer with my colleague, Your Honor.

asr-002305
02:23:01.019 --> 02:23:08.402
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: The allotment originally, Your Honor, was 1.9 billion.

asr-002306
02:23:09.119 --> 02:23:13.428
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: But what has been obligated is 1.5 billion, Your Honor.

asr-002307
02:23:13.428 --> 02:23:22.045
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: But DBM released the SARO corresponding to the 1.9 billion.

asr-002308
02:23:22.045 --> 02:23:29.774
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So how much still remains unobligated?

asr-002309
02:23:29.774 --> 02:23:36.625
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Your Honor, at this point, what is unobligated is the 1.3, which is the second phase of the project.

asr-002310
02:23:36.625 --> 02:23:39.638
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Commissioner, I'm asking you first, the first phase.

asr-002311
02:23:39.638 --> 02:23:42.650
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Don't jump on the second phase. I haven't asked you yet on the second phase.

asr-002312
02:23:42.650 --> 02:23:44.472
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: It has been fully obligated, Your Honor.

asr-002315
02:23:45.687 --> 02:23:46.753
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much has been released?

asr-002316
02:23:46.753 --> 02:24:02.160
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Your Honor, as stated, the original amount was 1.9, but we have a savings of 400.

asr-002317
02:24:02.160 --> 02:24:04.115
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: So what has been released is 1.5 billion, Your Honor.

asr-002318
02:24:04.115 --> 02:24:05.687
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for fiscal year 2025?

asr-002319
02:24:05.687 --> 02:24:12.940
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much of the Bureau's appropriations remain unused for this particular project?

asr-002320
02:24:12.940 --> 02:24:15.785
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: 1.3, Your Honor.

asr-002321
02:24:15.785 --> 02:24:27.976
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much has been obligated?

asr-002322
02:24:27.976 --> 02:24:32.532
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Your Honor, it has not yet been obligated because the terms of reference

asr-002323
02:24:32.532 --> 02:24:37.088
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: for the phase of this project will still be transmitted to the Department of Justice

asr-002324
02:24:37.088 --> 02:24:38.911
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: for further review, Your Honor.

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02:24:38.911 --> 02:24:40.818
Rep. Allan U. Ty: But it has been released?

asr-002326
02:24:40.818 --> 02:24:42.725
Rep. Allan U. Ty: The SARO has been released by the DBM?

asr-002327
02:24:42.725 --> 02:24:44.632
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Yes, Your Honor. It has been released.

asr-002328
02:24:44.632 --> 02:24:49.062
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you go over your 2025 budget?

asr-002329
02:24:49.062 --> 02:24:53.492
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Based on the expenditure program appropriation by obligation,

asr-002330
02:24:53.492 --> 02:24:57.922
Rep. Allan U. Ty: you have an unobligated allotment of 4 billion.

asr-002331
02:24:57.922 --> 02:25:02.352
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you please state what these unobligated

asr-002332
02:25:02.352 --> 02:25:05.675
Rep. Allan U. Ty: allotments are?

asr-002333
02:25:05.675 --> 02:25:09.774
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Primarily, Your Honor, it pertains to the E-Gates project.

asr-002334
02:25:09.774 --> 02:25:11.142
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: It's unobligated.

asr-002335
02:25:11.142 --> 02:25:16.241
Rep. Allan U. Ty: You mentioned a while ago that you have obligated 1.5 billion.

asr-002336
02:25:16.241 --> 02:25:19.300
Rep. Allan U. Ty: The only unobligated amount is only 400 million.

asr-002337
02:25:19.300 --> 02:25:25.418
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How come you have 4.071 billion unobligated in 2025?

asr-002338
02:25:25.418 --> 02:25:29.437
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, if I may read the summary, Your Honor.

asr-002339
02:25:29.437 --> 02:25:32.450
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The implementation schedule for

asr-002340
02:25:32.450 --> 02:25:35.464
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the E-Gates projects Phase 1, 2, and 3

asr-002341
02:25:35.464 --> 02:25:38.478
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: was affected by circumstances beyond the Bureau's control.

asr-002342
02:25:38.478 --> 02:25:42.497
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So Phase 1, which was funded under the Fiscal Year 2024 GAA

asr-002343
02:25:42.497 --> 02:25:45.511
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: in the amount of 1.5 billion,

asr-002344
02:25:45.511 --> 02:25:47.520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: was timely subjected to competitive bidding

asr-002345
02:25:47.520 --> 02:25:49.529
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but was declared a failure of bidding.

asr-002346
02:25:49.529 --> 02:25:52.543
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It necessitated, Your Honor, a rebidding process.

asr-002347
02:25:52.543 --> 02:25:54.552
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And during the rebidding process,

asr-002348
02:25:54.552 --> 02:25:56.562
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the Bureau received the donation of E-Gates

asr-002349
02:25:56.562 --> 02:25:59.576
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: from the new NAIA Infrastructure Corporation

asr-002350
02:25:59.576 --> 02:26:01.585
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for NAIA Terminals 1 and 3,

asr-002351
02:26:01.585 --> 02:26:03.594
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: which required the revision

asr-002352
02:26:03.594 --> 02:26:06.608
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of the approved technical specifications and deployment plan

asr-002353
02:26:06.608 --> 02:26:09.622
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to avoid any duplication of procurement

asr-002354
02:26:09.622 --> 02:26:12.636
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and maximize the utilization of government resources.

asr-002355
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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Consequently, the contract was awarded in December 2025.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Now, as the project is being implemented in phases,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the delay in Phase 1 necessarily affected

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the procurement schedule of Phase 2.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For Fiscal Year 2025, amounting to 1.3 billion.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And Phase 3, Fiscal Year 2026,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: amounting to 565 million.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The Bureau has since completed the required revisions

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: revisions and is expediting, Your Honor,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the remaining procurement activities.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And the Bureau assures that it will be able to award Phase 2

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and other Fiscal Year 2025 and 2026 funded projects

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: within the current year

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and commits to fully implementing the modernization program

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as scheduled, Your Honor.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Last question, Cong. Allan.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: I have...

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: I'll do my second round, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Okay.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Yes, sir. Thank you.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line, from the majority,

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Solomon Chungalao.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Thank you, Chairman.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I just ask one question.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: My major question.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: One or two, perhaps.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Hypothetical.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: It pertains to the right of the government

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: to expropriate private property

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02:27:33.568 --> 02:27:35.582
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: for public use.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Now, if an agency exercises

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: the power of expropriation,

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: acquires private property

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: for public use,

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: but it's a private corporation

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: pays the value,

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is there a proper exercise

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: of the power of expropriation,

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Secretary?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Elements for the proper exercise

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of expropriate...

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the right of eminent domain.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: One, public purpose.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Second, it's a...

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it's a...

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: public purpose of the ano, no?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And it would be utilizing public funds.

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02:28:22.276 --> 02:28:24.378
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But, Your Honor,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: as in prior projects, no?

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02:28:26.480 --> 02:28:28.582
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: There have been projects that

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02:28:28.582 --> 02:28:30.684
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: there are engagements by the government

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02:28:30.684 --> 02:28:32.786
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: entering into

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: various contractual agreements

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the private sector

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and it would be possible, no,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it would be possible

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02:28:41.193 --> 02:28:44.346
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that private funds might be used

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to procure portions

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the right-of-way, Your Honor.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: So, it's possible that you can use

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: private funds to pay

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: just compensation?

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: It's...

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I'll be direct with the Secretary.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I raised this in the 18th Congress.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Kasi sa amin,

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: NIA exercises expropriation.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: They acquired property

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: of farmers around

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: the Magat Dam

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: for public use.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: But the one who paid it

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is a private corporation.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Pwede ba 'yon?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I don't think that's within the realm

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of our legal system, Your Honor.

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02:29:35.354 --> 02:29:37.512
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Private funds cannot be used

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in that manner, Your Honor.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: That, in that case,

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is the private...

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is the public...

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: public corporation

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: or the public entity

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: liable for anything?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes. We have to check the circumstances, Your Honor. Yes, possible po, Your Honor.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: What would be the liability, any administrative or criminal liability?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, if you may, we need additional factual circumstances to make a determination on that matter, Your Honor.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Well, I'm laying the facts. The facts are simple.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: They raised the level of the dam to the level that it acquired private properties, supposedly for irrigation.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: But when they were supposed to pay for the just compensation, it was a private corporation who wanted to pay and paid them, pero hindi patas.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Is there anything wrong in that case?

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Secretary? Ano 'yung right—anong ROW 'yun?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Under the existing ROW Act, Your Honor, if I get the briefing right, what will be used for expropriation should be public funds.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So any violation of that law would make the person liable if it violates that particular law, Your Honor.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: The agency, the agency—

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: NIA violated the law.

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02:31:38.926 --> 02:31:48.037
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: What is the crime? What is the liability of NIA, administratively or criminally?

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: That's what I'm asking.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Kasi hindi inayos 'to, eh. Oo, hindi kasi...

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, we, my apologies, but if you will allow the department, we can give you the proper briefing on that.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We can give you the report on that.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But for any action of an individual, it can arise...

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It can arise to criminal or administrative liability.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's possible.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And also from a criminal act, a civil liability will also ensue.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So based on the particular act, Your Honor, we need to see with more particularity the circumstances, Your Honor.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: My apologies, Your Honor.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Okay, I will just ask perhaps your office for your legal opinion.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Because the farmers are complaining.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I brought this out in the 18th Congress.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I told them.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Ayusin ninyo 'yan. Pero hindi inayos hanggang ngayon. So the farmers are coming back. Ang ginagawa nila kasi, binabarat 'yung iba, binabayaran 'yung iba. Hindi naman puwede 'yun, 'di ba?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor. The ultimate basis for everything is fairness and justice.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So flowing from that, if there's something unfair, probably there's a violation of the law.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So if it's an unfair act, then there's a law violated.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So we'll just coordinate with your office, Your Honor.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Okay, I'll just write your office.

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Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I will limit myself to allow my other colleagues to be able to ask questions.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Thank you very much.

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Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan: May I interject, Mr. Chairman?

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Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan: On the issue of just compensation, related to the question, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Yes, Congressman Domogan, it's the time of Cong. Chungalao.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: There are a lot of other interpellators waiting.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Maybe we can bring it up on your time.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: May time pa siya.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Maybe you can bring it up on your time, Congressman Domogan.

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Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Sol Chungalao.

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: With the indulgence of Cong Sarah Elago, we needed to...

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Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: At least let Cong. Tinio come first because he has other obligations to go to.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Chair, thank you.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unang-una, nagpapasalamat ako kay Congresswoman Sarah Elago for being so generous and yielding her time.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I thought I was going to ask questions after Congressman Ty.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Apparently not.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, a few questions here.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unang-una, doon ho tayo kay Administrator Benitez

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Parole and Probation Administration. Meron ho kayong panukalang batas na itinutulak dito sa Kongreso para i-modernize ang PPA.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At iyan ay bilang tugon sa mga problemang hinaharap ng PPA, tama po ba?

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: With the indulgence of the Secretary, yes, sir.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maaari ho bang i-outline lang o banggitin ano iyong mga problemang iyon?

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02:34:59.520 --> 02:35:03.549
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Ang problema po namin ay tungkol sa modernization.

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Mga entry-level salaries

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Entry-level salaries.

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ng aming probation

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: officers ay mababa.

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: parang 30 years

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: behind po kami

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: sa SG level nila

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: bukod po dyan

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Bukod po diyan, meron po kayong mga kliyente.

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: pag sinasabing kliente tinutukoy po

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: natin dyan yung mga probationers

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02:35:24.678 --> 02:35:26.958
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: natin diyan iyong mga probationers, parolees, conditional pardonees

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: at qualified offenders.

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02:35:28.628 --> 02:35:29.257
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama po ba?

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02:35:30.240 --> 02:35:32.930
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po bang ideal ratio

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02:35:32.930 --> 02:35:34.427
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa classroom

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02:35:34.427 --> 02:35:35.661
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may ratio na ideal

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02:35:35.661 --> 02:35:38.816
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one teacher to 30 students

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ba yung ideal ratio?

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02:35:41.203 --> 02:35:42.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the information of the committee

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: last 2025

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02:35:44.256 --> 02:35:47.077
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: we processed 175,000

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: probationers

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilan po yung staff?

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: yung staff po namin

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: more or less mga

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 875

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02:35:56.381 --> 02:35:58.570
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ang case load ng isang

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: probation officer ay

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 1 is to 400

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 is to 400, ano po yung ideal ratio

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02:36:04.824 --> 02:36:05.664
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pagkakaalam ninyo?

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02:36:05.664 --> 02:36:07.755
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ideal ratio po ay 1 is to 50

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02:36:07.755 --> 02:36:09.846
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sino po nagsabi ng ideal ratio na yan?

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02:36:10.355 --> 02:36:11.488
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: UNODC po,

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PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

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Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so medyo hindi po tayo

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02:36:15.925 --> 02:36:17.449
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagko-comply don

asr-002536
02:36:17.449 --> 02:36:19.912
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at paano po ito nakakapekto sa trabaho

asr-002537
02:36:19.912 --> 02:36:21.768
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at servisyo sa lipunan?

asr-002538
02:36:22.120 --> 02:36:23.799
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: during my term as the

asr-002539
02:36:23.799 --> 02:36:25.558
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: administrator of the PPA

asr-002540
02:36:25.558 --> 02:36:27.457
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: we identified problems

asr-002541
02:36:27.457 --> 02:36:29.856
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: within the system

asr-002542
02:36:29.856 --> 02:36:31.035
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and we identified

asr-002543
02:36:31.035 --> 02:36:32.694
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 55,000

asr-002544
02:36:32.694 --> 02:36:35.433
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: unaccounted for or not

asr-002545
02:36:35.433 --> 02:36:37.332
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: in the system

asr-002546
02:36:37.412 --> 02:36:41.190
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and we gave this message

asr-002547
02:36:41.190 --> 02:36:42.729
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: to the Secretary of Justice

asr-002548
02:36:42.729 --> 02:36:45.388
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and the Philippine anti-drugs

asr-002549
02:36:45.388 --> 02:36:46.987
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: PADS

asr-002550
02:36:46.987 --> 02:36:48.426
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: supported us with

asr-002551
02:36:48.426 --> 02:36:50.285
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 50 million per year

asr-002552
02:36:50.285 --> 02:36:52.964
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: it is now a tier 1

asr-002553
02:36:52.964 --> 02:36:53.803
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: expense

asr-002554
02:36:53.803 --> 02:36:55.703
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: we are on our second year

asr-002555
02:36:55.703 --> 02:36:57.901
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and ngayon po 1 is to

asr-002556
02:36:57.901 --> 02:37:00.520
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 320 na lang po ang case load

asr-002557
02:37:00.520 --> 02:37:02.518
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but still behind the 1 is to 50

asr-002558
02:37:02.518 --> 02:37:03.722
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sinasabi nyo

asr-002559
02:37:03.722 --> 02:37:05.292
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so insufficient staffing

asr-002560
02:37:05.292 --> 02:37:06.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isang problema, tinukoy nyo

asr-002561
02:37:06.760 --> 02:37:07.229
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: excessive cases

asr-002562
02:37:07.229 --> 02:37:08.065
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: case load.

asr-002563
02:37:08.983 --> 02:37:11.246
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Organizationally, mayroon problem tayo

asr-002564
02:37:11.246 --> 02:37:11.878
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa structure?

asr-002565
02:37:13.000 --> 02:37:15.478
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Because we promoted about

asr-002566
02:37:15.478 --> 02:37:17.207
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 300 individuals

asr-002567
02:37:17.207 --> 02:37:19.727
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and these 300 individuals

asr-002568
02:37:19.727 --> 02:37:21.705
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: including probation officers

asr-002569
02:37:21.705 --> 02:37:23.975
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: shed their level

asr-002570
02:37:23.975 --> 02:37:25.933
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: kaya may vacant pa rin po kami na

asr-002571
02:37:25.933 --> 02:37:27.995
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: three hundred—about 275.

asr-002572
02:37:28.453 --> 02:37:30.369
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos binanggit nyo na

asr-002573
02:37:30.369 --> 02:37:32.014
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong benepisyo

asr-002574
02:37:32.014 --> 02:37:32.577
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mababa.

asr-002575
02:37:34.680 --> 02:37:36.321
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What about the technological

asr-002576
02:37:36.321 --> 02:37:38.305
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: systems? Kamusta po tayo

asr-002577
02:37:38.305 --> 02:37:40.003
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: diyan?

asr-002578
02:37:40.003 --> 02:37:41.472
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: I'm happy to inform the committee that our

asr-002579
02:37:41.472 --> 02:37:43.532
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: computer system is

asr-002580
02:37:43.532 --> 02:37:45.345
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: at par dun sa

asr-002581
02:37:45.345 --> 02:37:47.443
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: NJIS, and

asr-002582
02:37:47.443 --> 02:37:49.542
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: anytime that they turn on the computer

asr-002583
02:37:49.542 --> 02:37:51.240
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: system, we will be compliant.

asr-002584
02:37:51.240 --> 02:37:53.067
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so binanggit nyo yung ratio

asr-002585
02:37:53.067 --> 02:37:54.969
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na hindi medyo

asr-002586
02:37:54.969 --> 02:37:56.983
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: talagang dehado yung mga staff

asr-002587
02:37:56.983 --> 02:37:58.363
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil sa dami po ng kliyente.

asr-002588
02:37:59.034 --> 02:38:00.488
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang tugon diyan ay

asr-002589
02:38:00.488 --> 02:38:02.539
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: either paramihin—pag pinarami

asr-002590
02:38:02.539 --> 02:38:04.199
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po yung staff, pinalaki yung staff, lalaki

asr-002591
02:38:04.199 --> 02:38:04.609
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong gastos.

asr-002592
02:38:04.628 --> 02:38:07.518
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang bahagi dyan ay

asr-002593
02:38:07.518 --> 02:38:08.618
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi mo mapapalaki,

asr-002594
02:38:08.991 --> 02:38:10.184
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: i-upskill na lang sila. Tama?

asr-002595
02:38:10.520 --> 02:38:11.293
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Tama po yun.

asr-002596
02:38:11.565 --> 02:38:13.974
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Pag may upskilling, may gastos din.

asr-002597
02:38:14.678 --> 02:38:15.610
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: May gastos po.

asr-002598
02:38:16.450 --> 02:38:18.995
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ang tanong ko po, alam po, excited

asr-002599
02:38:18.995 --> 02:38:21.699
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kayo sumagot, pero yung gastos po ba

asr-002600
02:38:21.699 --> 02:38:23.812
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for upskilling dahil hindi kayo nabigyan

asr-002601
02:38:23.812 --> 02:38:26.016
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: karagdagan na pwesto para sa staff,

asr-002602
02:38:26.516 --> 02:38:27.880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay nakapaloob ba sa

asr-002603
02:38:27.880 --> 02:38:30.038
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget na pino-propose?

asr-002604
02:38:30.470 --> 02:38:32.133
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Nasa wish list po namin

asr-002605
02:38:32.133 --> 02:38:34.739
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ang improvement ng mga skills

asr-002606
02:38:34.739 --> 02:38:35.792
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: at

asr-002607
02:38:36.125 --> 02:38:37.880
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: mga probation officers.

asr-002608
02:38:38.250 --> 02:38:38.933
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po iyon?

asr-002609
02:38:39.192 --> 02:38:41.206
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Ito po ay ladderized three-year

asr-002610
02:38:41.206 --> 02:38:43.442
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: probation officer development program

asr-002611
02:38:43.442 --> 02:38:46.307
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: na 8,198,000.

asr-002612
02:38:46.399 --> 02:38:47.239
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi napagbigyan?

asr-002613
02:38:48.120 --> 02:38:48.595
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Hindi po.

asr-002614
02:38:49.727 --> 02:38:50.904
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Wish list pa po namin.

asr-002615
02:38:51.040 --> 02:38:53.125
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sana po sa ating

asr-002616
02:38:53.125 --> 02:38:56.222
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mapag-isipan yan

asr-002617
02:38:56.222 --> 02:38:57.095
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kung maaari,

asr-002618
02:38:57.433 --> 02:38:59.378
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakita ninyo naman, napakahirap ng laban nila,

asr-002619
02:38:59.557 --> 02:39:01.641
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakaraming kliyente na sineservisyuhan.

asr-002620
02:39:01.820 --> 02:39:03.646
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi po mapaparami ang mga pwesto,

asr-002621
02:39:03.746 --> 02:39:05.493
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat at least dagdagan po

asr-002622
02:39:05.493 --> 02:39:07.399
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang training programs para

asr-002623
02:39:07.399 --> 02:39:09.364
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: i-upskill sila at magampanan nila

asr-002624
02:39:09.364 --> 02:39:10.635
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong katungkulan sa batas.

asr-002625
02:39:11.250 --> 02:39:12.997
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bukod doon, napansin ko, ang laki po

asr-002626
02:39:12.997 --> 02:39:14.506
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng binaba ng budget ninyo.

asr-002627
02:39:15.022 --> 02:39:17.504
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung titingnan iyong General Administration Support Services,

asr-002628
02:39:17.504 --> 02:39:19.489
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mababa ng 35.97%.

asr-002629
02:39:20.680 --> 02:39:21.098
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Opo.

asr-002630
02:39:21.257 --> 02:39:23.247
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Majority po yun ay because we are

asr-002631
02:39:23.247 --> 02:39:25.277
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: compliant with the ISSP

asr-002632
02:39:25.277 --> 02:39:27.148
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: tungkol po sa computer

asr-002633
02:39:27.148 --> 02:39:29.576
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: system.

asr-002634
02:39:29.576 --> 02:39:31.267
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oo, pero ibig sabihin din iyon, bagamat compliant kayo sa computer

asr-002635
02:39:31.267 --> 02:39:33.098
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: system, ibig sabihin po ninyo, yung ibang

asr-002636
02:39:33.098 --> 02:39:35.148
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahilingan ninyo tungkol doon sa

asr-002637
02:39:35.148 --> 02:39:37.456
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagmamodernize ng PPA, na nakapaloob

asr-002638
02:39:37.456 --> 02:39:39.327
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po doon sa mga panukalang

asr-002639
02:39:39.327 --> 02:39:41.317
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: batas na sinusunod ninyo, hindi po

asr-002640
02:39:41.317 --> 02:39:42.432
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napondohan. Tama?

asr-002641
02:39:42.750 --> 02:39:43.655
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Tama po yun.

asr-002642
02:39:43.655 --> 02:39:44.012
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-002643
02:39:45.439 --> 02:39:48.026
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next question po. Dito naman po

asr-002644
02:39:48.026 --> 02:39:48.772
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tayo sa

asr-002645
02:39:48.772 --> 02:39:52.962
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: public attorney's office.

asr-002646
02:39:53.399 --> 02:39:53.919
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, sir.

asr-002647
02:39:54.680 --> 02:39:56.442
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kay Chief Persida Acosta, aking

asr-002648
02:39:56.442 --> 02:39:58.944
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kababayan

asr-002649
02:39:58.944 --> 02:40:00.186
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Bataan.

asr-002650
02:40:01.247 --> 02:40:03.109
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unang-una, nagpapasalamat sa tulong

asr-002651
02:40:03.109 --> 02:40:03.609
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PAO.

asr-002652
02:40:05.071 --> 02:40:07.393
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakatuwa na lumaki iyong salary

asr-002653
02:40:07.393 --> 02:40:09.115
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PAO at dahil diyan, marahil

asr-002654
02:40:09.115 --> 02:40:10.216
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: marami na kayong applications.

asr-002655
02:40:11.217 --> 02:40:13.239
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kumusta naman po iyong caseload ng bawat PAO?

asr-002656
02:40:13.980 --> 02:40:15.982
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam ko, nakakatugon

asr-002657
02:40:15.982 --> 02:40:17.784
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ho ba kayo? Feeling nyo ho ba?

asr-002658
02:40:17.924 --> 02:40:18.905
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You're spread too thin?

asr-002659
02:40:19.466 --> 02:40:21.428
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ano ho ang tugon nyo doon?

asr-002660
02:40:23.640 --> 02:40:24.726
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: With the permission of the

asr-002661
02:40:24.726 --> 02:40:26.544
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: chair, ang bawat abogado

asr-002662
02:40:26.544 --> 02:40:28.203
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: po ay humahawak ng

asr-002663
02:40:28.203 --> 02:40:30.396
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 315 cases per month.

asr-002664
02:40:31.166 --> 02:40:32.371
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that sa inyong

asr-002665
02:40:32.371 --> 02:40:34.287
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tantiya? Iyan po ba

asr-002666
02:40:34.287 --> 02:40:35.058
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay sobra?

asr-002667
02:40:36.243 --> 02:40:37.468
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sakto lang o kulang?

asr-002668
02:40:38.100 --> 02:40:39.754
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Sobrang overwork po ang PAO.

asr-002669
02:40:39.875 --> 02:40:41.711
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Kaya pag naka-five years, nagpipiskal,

asr-002670
02:40:42.155 --> 02:40:43.366
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: nag-MTC judge,

asr-002671
02:40:43.830 --> 02:40:45.948
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: nagiging training officer lang po ako ng mga

asr-002672
02:40:45.948 --> 02:40:48.329
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: public attorneys. Para maging justice

asr-002673
02:40:48.329 --> 02:40:50.145
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: din. May mga justice na rin po tayo sa

asr-002674
02:40:50.145 --> 02:40:52.303
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Supreme Court dalawa galing sa PAO.

asr-002675
02:40:53.292 --> 02:40:54.583
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung budget nyo,

asr-002676
02:40:54.664 --> 02:40:55.874
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na po na ko, tumaas?

asr-002677
02:40:56.359 --> 02:40:58.134
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tumaas po dahil mayroon pong

asr-002678
02:40:58.134 --> 02:41:00.333
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: dati pang added 87

asr-002679
02:41:00.333 --> 02:41:02.431
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: items, ngayon po lang napondohan.

asr-002680
02:41:03.319 --> 02:41:04.346
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po bang

asr-002681
02:41:04.346 --> 02:41:06.097
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sinasabi yung kakulangan sa

asr-002682
02:41:06.287 --> 02:41:08.038
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: amin ng abogado para tugunan yung

asr-002683
02:41:08.038 --> 02:41:09.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: caseload, lumalaking caseload,

asr-002684
02:41:09.997 --> 02:41:11.767
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun po ba meron pong response

asr-002685
02:41:11.767 --> 02:41:13.936
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nakapaloob at sinasalamin

asr-002686
02:41:13.936 --> 02:41:15.591
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng budget? In other words, tumaas na to,

asr-002687
02:41:16.086 --> 02:41:17.646
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tumaas dahil sa yung mga

asr-002688
02:41:17.646 --> 02:41:19.377
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: problema binanggit nyo. Mandatory

asr-002689
02:41:19.377 --> 02:41:21.337
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increases lang po yun. Mandatory

asr-002690
02:41:21.337 --> 02:41:23.544
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increases. So hindi pa rin nabibigyang-pansin.

asr-002691
02:41:23.924 --> 02:41:25.218
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ba kayong wish

asr-002692
02:41:25.218 --> 02:41:27.425
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sa wish list na hindi napagbigyan?

asr-002693
02:41:27.920 --> 02:41:29.512
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Meron pa po kaming wishlist.

asr-002694
02:41:29.949 --> 02:41:30.821
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Humihingi po kami ng

asr-002695
02:41:30.821 --> 02:41:32.632
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 559 additional.

asr-002696
02:41:33.526 --> 02:41:35.250
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Dahil gaya ng sinabi ko po kanina,

asr-002697
02:41:35.839 --> 02:41:37.802
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: counterpart po namin na

asr-002698
02:41:37.802 --> 02:41:39.482
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: prosecutors, SolGen,

asr-002699
02:41:40.245 --> 02:41:42.013
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: labor cases may hawak din

asr-002700
02:41:42.013 --> 02:41:43.845
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng PAO. Meron din po kami

asr-002701
02:41:43.845 --> 02:41:45.612
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mediation and arbitration.

asr-002702
02:41:46.332 --> 02:41:48.404
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Dahil meron tayong PAO versus

asr-002703
02:41:48.404 --> 02:41:50.739
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PAO cases, mini-mediate na lang namin

asr-002704
02:41:50.739 --> 02:41:52.309
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para mawala ang conflict.

asr-002705
02:41:53.160 --> 02:41:54.913
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tapos meron pa rin tayong counterpart,

asr-002706
02:41:55.169 --> 02:41:57.118
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mga private lawyers from the IBP

asr-002707
02:41:57.118 --> 02:41:58.831
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: at saka regular private lawyers.

asr-002708
02:41:59.343 --> 02:42:00.840
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: May preliminary investigation,

asr-002709
02:42:01.155 --> 02:42:02.455
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may inquest duties po,

asr-002710
02:42:02.986 --> 02:42:04.266
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may barangay outreach,

asr-002711
02:42:04.266 --> 02:42:06.294
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: at marami po kaming trabaho

asr-002712
02:42:06.294 --> 02:42:07.023
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: talaga sa PAO.

asr-002713
02:42:07.062 --> 02:42:07.850
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Legal counseling.

asr-002714
02:42:08.441 --> 02:42:11.040
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tina-tap na rin kami ng DMW at OWWA

asr-002715
02:42:11.040 --> 02:42:13.344
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para sa mga OFWs abroad.

asr-002716
02:42:13.639 --> 02:42:15.550
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nagpapalipad po tayo ng mga PAO lawyers

asr-002717
02:42:15.550 --> 02:42:16.593
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pag may caravan.

asr-002718
02:42:17.164 --> 02:42:19.291
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tumutulong din po tayo sa katarungan

asr-002719
02:42:19.291 --> 02:42:21.693
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pambarangay caravan ng ating DOJ,

asr-002720
02:42:21.851 --> 02:42:22.776
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Serbisyo Caravan.

asr-002721
02:42:23.525 --> 02:42:25.533
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Napakaraming pong gawa ng ating PAO.

asr-002722
02:42:25.651 --> 02:42:27.089
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Meron din tayong legal counseling

asr-002723
02:42:27.089 --> 02:42:29.157
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: by text, messenger, viber.

asr-002724
02:42:29.767 --> 02:42:31.913
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nagbibigay po tayo ng 500 pesos

asr-002725
02:42:31.913 --> 02:42:33.469
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: per month para sa ating lawyers

asr-002726
02:42:33.469 --> 02:42:35.576
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para makapag-counseling din sila

asr-002727
02:42:35.576 --> 02:42:36.580
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: via social media.

asr-002728
02:42:36.600 --> 02:42:37.958
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero hindi po nakumbinsi ang DBM, ano?

asr-002729
02:42:39.399 --> 02:42:40.262
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nakaintindihan po namin

asr-002730
02:42:40.262 --> 02:42:41.504
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ang kakulangan ng pondo

asr-002731
02:42:41.504 --> 02:42:43.524
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pero nakita natin iyong PAO kanina

asr-002732
02:42:43.524 --> 02:42:45.818
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: parang kudlit lang ang budget

asr-002733
02:42:45.818 --> 02:42:46.660
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng DOJ

asr-002734
02:42:46.660 --> 02:42:50.090
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: at nakiki-commiserate po ako sa mga kasama

asr-002735
02:42:50.090 --> 02:42:51.942
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ko sa DOJ, gaya ng NBI,

asr-002736
02:42:52.973 --> 02:42:54.552
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PPA, mga nabawasan,

asr-002737
02:42:54.741 --> 02:42:55.667
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sana po ibalik.

asr-002738
02:42:56.193 --> 02:42:57.940
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Lalo ang NBI, gusto ko pong sana

asr-002739
02:42:57.940 --> 02:43:00.381
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: dagdagan po ng intel dahil napakasipag

asr-002740
02:43:00.381 --> 02:43:01.539
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: po ng mga NBI natin.

asr-002741
02:43:01.560 --> 02:43:04.138
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay, masipag po talaga yan. Dapat talagang lakihin ang kanilang pondo.

asr-002742
02:43:04.138 --> 02:43:04.925
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Agree po ako diyan.

asr-002743
02:43:06.040 --> 02:43:08.286
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nila, technical service, talagang

asr-002744
02:43:08.286 --> 02:43:09.712
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: labor of love po.

asr-002745
02:43:10.187 --> 02:43:11.850
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: O, kayo rin po, labor of love.

asr-002746
02:43:12.002 --> 02:43:15.134
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dahil dyan, dapat mahalin kayo, dagdagan ang inyong pondo.

asr-002747
02:43:15.760 --> 02:43:16.213
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tama po.

asr-002748
02:43:16.232 --> 02:43:17.944
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Ang unang-unang sumusuporta ang PAO yan po.

asr-002749
02:43:18.062 --> 02:43:19.656
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Pag nasa lalawigan kayo,

asr-002750
02:43:20.030 --> 02:43:22.254
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: nakakasalamuha iyong mga constituents ninyo,

asr-002751
02:43:22.706 --> 02:43:24.398
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: and dapat abogado po kayo.

asr-002752
02:43:24.713 --> 02:43:26.425
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Katulad ko po, lumalapit sa akin,

asr-002753
02:43:26.543 --> 02:43:28.767
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: dumadaing, at nangakailangan po talagang

asr-002754
02:43:28.767 --> 02:43:29.987
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: na serbisyo legal mula sa PAO.

asr-002755
02:43:30.006 --> 02:43:31.836
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Mayroon po tayong bagong project noong taong ito

asr-002756
02:43:31.836 --> 02:43:33.509
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para sa indigenous peoples.

asr-002757
02:43:33.962 --> 02:43:35.654
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nakarating na po ako sa Benguet,

asr-002758
02:43:36.421 --> 02:43:37.838
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Visayas, Mindanao, Mangyan.

asr-002759
02:43:38.527 --> 02:43:40.455
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Talagang kailangan po hanggang sa kabundukan

asr-002760
02:43:40.455 --> 02:43:41.754
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng mga public attorneys.

asr-002761
02:43:42.167 --> 02:43:44.253
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: At pangarap ko sana, bawat embahada,

asr-002762
02:43:44.863 --> 02:43:46.712
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: hindi lang may NBI agent doon,

asr-002763
02:43:46.771 --> 02:43:48.405
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may PAO lawyer din, tutulong

asr-002764
02:43:48.405 --> 02:43:50.313
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa ating OFWs, makipag-coordinate

asr-002765
02:43:50.313 --> 02:43:51.927
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa counterparts, para

asr-002766
02:43:51.927 --> 02:43:53.836
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mabawasan ang nakukulong

asr-002767
02:43:53.836 --> 02:43:55.646
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng mga OFWs po.

asr-002768
02:43:55.980 --> 02:43:58.302
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Additional 500 million po ang hinahanap ninyo?

asr-002769
02:43:58.499 --> 02:43:59.719
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Hindi naman ho, pero

asr-002770
02:43:59.719 --> 02:44:02.238
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kung ano lang pong kaya sana ng gobyerno,

asr-002771
02:44:02.238 --> 02:44:03.576
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kung napupondohan yung iba,

asr-002772
02:44:03.910 --> 02:44:05.918
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: tapos napupunta lamang sa scandal,

asr-002773
02:44:05.937 --> 02:44:08.338
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sana yun talagang nagwo-work po

asr-002774
02:44:08.338 --> 02:44:10.089
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ang mabigyan ng pondo.

asr-002775
02:44:10.502 --> 02:44:11.801
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Subok po ang NBI.

asr-002776
02:44:11.939 --> 02:44:14.084
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tsaka mga kasama ko sa department, mga piskal,

asr-002777
02:44:14.576 --> 02:44:16.110
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mahal ko po sila dahil mga dati

asr-002778
02:44:16.110 --> 02:44:17.842
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PAO ko po karamihan. 80% ng mga

asr-002779
02:44:17.842 --> 02:44:19.456
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: prosecutors galing po sa akin.

asr-002780
02:44:19.849 --> 02:44:21.994
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Sa PAO, naging mentor po nila ako.

asr-002781
02:44:22.683 --> 02:44:23.981
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Kaya nalulungkot po ako

asr-002782
02:44:23.981 --> 02:44:25.870
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pag nakikita ko may bawas po ang budget

asr-002783
02:44:25.870 --> 02:44:27.484
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng mga ahensya ng DOJ.

asr-002784
02:44:27.720 --> 02:44:30.023
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige po. Hayaan ninyo, susuportahan namin

asr-002785
02:44:30.023 --> 02:44:31.175
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung pagdagdag ng

asr-002786
02:44:31.175 --> 02:44:33.760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget ng PAO.

asr-002787
02:44:33.760 --> 02:44:34.569
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Opo.

asr-002788
02:44:37.990 --> 02:44:40.409
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa LRA, andyan po ba

asr-002789
02:44:40.409 --> 02:44:41.776
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang LRA?

asr-002790
02:44:42.597 --> 02:44:44.911
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sir, napansin ko yung support for operations nyo,

asr-002791
02:44:44.995 --> 02:44:47.414
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumobo ng 86.15%.

asr-002792
02:44:47.414 --> 02:44:48.676
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po dahilan para dyan?

asr-002793
02:44:58.720 --> 02:45:06.838
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sir, iyong pong support for services na nasa ICTD po namin, sa improvement po ng aming services on technology ho.

asr-002794
02:45:07.120 --> 02:45:12.699
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: With the improvement in services, gaganda ho ba at bibilis iyong pag-i-issue ng mga titulo na kinakailangan?

asr-002795
02:45:13.439 --> 02:45:19.308
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Inaasahan ho namin sa pagkakaroon ng makabagong teknolohiya, maaari ho natin mapabilis na ho talaga.

asr-002796
02:45:19.437 --> 02:45:23.160
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: At maiwasan na rin ho ang pagkakaroon ng mga pekeng titulo rin ho.

asr-002797
02:45:23.160 --> 02:45:33.079
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi isang hinaing doon po ng marami, lalo na ng mga magsasaka na naghihintay ng CLOA, na mabagal po iyong pag-i-issue ng mga titulo.

asr-002798
02:45:33.571 --> 02:45:41.399
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi may mga anomalya ring nangyayari. Ano hong ginagawa ng ahensya para imbestigahan ang mga ito at mapabilis ang paglabas ng titulo?

asr-002799
02:45:41.399 --> 02:45:51.146
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa usapin po ng mga CLOA, kami po ay mahigpit na nakikipag-ugnayan ho sa Department of Agrarian Reform.

asr-002800
02:45:51.751 --> 02:45:53.483
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa opisina ni Secretary Conrado Estrella po.

asr-002801
02:45:53.684 --> 02:46:02.948
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So unti-unti ho namin na natatapos at naaayos ang mga issue sa usapin sa mga CLOWA po.

asr-002802
02:46:03.472 --> 02:46:12.212
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: At kami po ngayon ay nagsasagawa ho ng programa para mapabilis na ho ang distribution ng ating CLOA.

asr-002803
02:46:12.373 --> 02:46:21.113
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Meron pong ina-undertake na programa si Secretary Conrado na amin pong tinutulungan, ang DAR SPLIT Program po.

asr-002804
02:46:21.113 --> 02:46:32.190
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So sa programang iyon ay iyong mga collective CLOA, nababasag ho natin into individual CLOAs and napagdi-distribute po sa ating mga agrarian reform beneficiaries.

asr-002805
02:46:33.640 --> 02:46:41.198
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siguro naman ho, susukatin ninyo iyong bilis kung iyan po ang target ninyo—susukatin ninyo kung naging matagumpay ang inyong inisyatibo. Tama po?

asr-002806
02:46:41.960 --> 02:46:48.217
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo, hindi lang pong bilis pati po yung bilang po ng ating mga titulo na naipamimigay po.

asr-002807
02:46:48.217 --> 02:46:58.429
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ang target ho natin ay isang milyong titulo ang maibibigay natin sa ating mga kababayan, at sa aking tantiya nasa 200,000 na ho ang naibibigay po.

asr-002808
02:46:59.000 --> 02:47:04.724
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next question po. Kaya para sa last set of questions, patapos na ho.

asr-002809
02:47:05.006 --> 02:47:06.156
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay tapos na, last question.

asr-002811
02:47:07.399 --> 02:47:17.597
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, to the OSG, to Solicitor General Berberabe, I note that lumaki po iyong inyong budget for General Administration Support Services.

asr-002812
02:47:17.597 --> 02:47:18.570
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I know previously...

asr-002813
02:47:19.523 --> 02:47:32.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagkaroon kayo ng problema sa caseload, tama? Pero naremedyuhan ninyo. To what extent po iyong dagdag na budget ninyo ay bilang pagtugon sa mga problemang babanggitin ninyo sa amin ngayon?

asr-002814
02:47:32.640 --> 02:47:48.520
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Okay. Salamat po sa attention po sa OSG. With regard po sa increase ng budget, substantial portion po nito ay mapupunta sa building po ng OSG.

asr-002815
02:47:48.520 --> 02:48:05.160
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So sa ngayon po, yung OSG main building, 49 years old na po ito. Ilang dekada na po na pinag-uusapan. In fact, kakalahati na lang po ang occupants ng OSG sapagkat medyo kahit po dumadaan lang ay mga sasakyan para pong may lindol sa loob ng OSG.

asr-002816
02:48:05.160 --> 02:48:13.302
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So iilan na lang po kaming opisina na natitira sa OSG main.

asr-002818
02:48:15.200 --> 02:48:32.840
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Ang unang taon ng installment. Ang sinuggest po sa amin ng DBM Secretary at saka ng DOF Secretary, imbes po na bumili o magpagawa from scratch, ay humanap po ng building na ready-made at lease-to-own po.

asr-002819
02:48:32.840 --> 02:48:44.120
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So dadaan po kami sa GSIS, Government Financial Institution, sila po ang bibili at kami naman po ay magbabayad ng sampung taon.

asr-002820
02:48:44.120 --> 02:49:05.800
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So iyon po sana ang aming pakiusap na kung ma-approve po sa GAA, iyong kasama na rin sa proposal ng NEP, ay matutuloy po, mabibigyan kami ng MYCA at makakalipat po, sapagkat 2022 pa po ang report na ang structural integrity po ng building ay talagang tagilid na po ang estado.

asr-002821
02:49:05.800 --> 02:49:12.777
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Pero yun naman po ay ibebenta ang building na iyon at mapupunta po ang pagbebentahan sa Bureau of Treasury.

asr-002822
02:49:14.840 --> 02:49:18.070
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Tony.

asr-002823
02:49:18.080 --> 02:49:24.510
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority, Representative Sarah Elago.

asr-002824
02:49:24.520 --> 02:49:26.903
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

asr-002825
02:49:26.903 --> 02:49:38.908
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: We in Gabriela Women's Party likewise express grave concern over the proposed massive budget cuts in the budget of the Special Enforcement and Protection Subprogram,

asr-002826
02:49:38.908 --> 02:49:45.415
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: particularly in anti-trafficking in persons enforcement, anti-cybercrime enforcement, as well as the NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

asr-002828
02:49:45.415 --> 02:49:52.379
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Now, Mr. Chair, may we know the 2027 proposed funding for these particular programs?

asr-002829
02:49:52.379 --> 02:50:08.967
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Natalakay po kanina kung magkano yung gusto nating ma-restore na cuts, pero gusto ko lang din ho malaman kung magkano ba yung kinakailangan para maabot yung mga kinakailangan nilang magawa para sa susunod na taon.

asr-002830
02:50:08.967 --> 02:50:13.641
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na hindi naman po bumababa ang mga kaso.

asr-002831
02:50:13.641 --> 02:50:16.023
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa katunayan, Mr. Chair,

asr-002832
02:50:16.023 --> 02:50:33.069
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marami ring mga kaso na hindi na talaga nagtutuloy doon sa mismong pagfa-file ng complaint dahil sa laganap pa rin na victim blaming, shaming, o yung takot na wala rin namang mananagot kapag sila ay nagsumbong.

asr-002833
02:50:33.069 --> 02:50:40.950
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we hear, Mr. Chair, from the DOJ or those in charge in the particular programs?

asr-002834
02:50:40.960 --> 02:50:45.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If I may ask, Asec. Michelle, can you elucidate?

asr-002835
02:50:45.880 --> 02:50:48.365
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Secretary.

asr-002836
02:50:48.365 --> 02:50:51.495
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-002837
02:50:51.495 --> 02:51:06.236
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Ma'am, for 2026, if I may just clarify, the budget of the NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM Secretariat for 2026 is a total of 111.5 million.

asr-002838
02:51:06.236 --> 02:51:11.946
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: In the 2027 NEP, it's only 35.6 million.

asr-002839
02:51:11.946 --> 02:51:17.657
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So it is our proposal or request that

asr-002840
02:51:17.657 --> 02:51:25.947
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: we increase this by 75.9 million to restore to the 2026 levels.

asr-002841
02:51:25.947 --> 02:51:38.753
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For the Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking Secretariat, in 2026, the total budget of the IACAT Secretariat is 119 million.

asr-002842
02:51:38.753 --> 02:51:45.108
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For the 2027 NEP, it's down to 70 million.

asr-002843
02:51:45.108 --> 02:51:47.594
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we're requesting...

asr-002844
02:51:47.594 --> 02:51:55.884
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: for more or less 50 million, or 49 million to be exact.

asr-002845
02:51:55.884 --> 02:52:06.755
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And for the Office of Cybercrime, in 2026, it had a total budget of 102.2 million.

asr-002846
02:52:06.755 --> 02:52:13.110
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For the 2027 NEP, it's reduced to 12.273 million.

asr-002847
02:52:13.120 --> 02:52:14.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 12.273

asr-002848
02:52:14.060 --> 02:52:18.118
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: million. So yung 90% po yung na-reduce from 2026.

asr-002849
02:52:18.118 --> 02:52:20.617
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, mas mababa pa

asr-002850
02:52:20.617 --> 02:52:25.844
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pala, no? Mas malalim pa pala yung mga binawas pagdating sa mga

asr-002851
02:52:25.844 --> 02:52:34.190
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: programa na ito. Ibig sabihin, yung original proposed budget ninyo ay pareho lang ng 2026 GAA o mas mataas pa?

asr-002852
02:52:34.200 --> 02:52:41.619
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: As to your ask, Mr. Chair, for the original proposed budget for

asr-002853
02:52:41.619 --> 02:52:50.754
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: 2027: for the original proposed budget po, we were constrained to limit our proposals, Madam

asr-002854
02:52:50.754 --> 02:53:01.608
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Chair. However, we want to take this opportunity to impress that the real operational need of these units

asr-002855
02:53:01.608 --> 02:53:07.309
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: are at the level of the same 2026 budget.

asr-002856
02:53:07.319 --> 02:53:10.290
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, we know why

asr-002857
02:53:10.290 --> 02:53:11.324
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the

asr-002858
02:53:11.324 --> 02:53:12.358
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bodies

asr-002859
02:53:12.358 --> 02:53:20.655
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in charge are limited to impose a particular ceiling based on the 2026 GAA on their

asr-002860
02:53:20.655 --> 02:53:29.436
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposals. Hindi ba dapat na, kumbaga, kung ano yung mga kailangan at yung mga dapat para magawa

asr-002861
02:53:29.436 --> 02:53:31.922
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung trabaho ninyo, iyon

asr-002862
02:53:31.922 --> 02:53:36.830
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ipo-propose natin? Anyhow, meron pa namang pagdadaanan na

asr-002863
02:53:36.830 --> 02:53:43.190
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: DBM, no? Para, kumbaga, kung ano lang yung batay sa utilization, kung

asr-002864
02:53:43.190 --> 02:53:49.550
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano lang yung batay sa absorptive capacity, iyon lang yung maaaring maibigay.

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02:53:49.560 --> 02:53:57.130
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, ma'am, for that question and for echoing our concern as well. Given din po

asr-002866
02:53:57.130 --> 02:54:03.822
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: yung limitation on the absorptive capacity, as was raised a while ago, na-mention na

asr-002867
02:54:03.822 --> 02:54:12.269
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: po namin na kailangan ding dagdagan yung ability to conduct timely and reliable procurement processes, as well as

asr-002868
02:54:12.269 --> 02:54:15.451
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: yung need po for additional plantilla

asr-002869
02:54:15.451 --> 02:54:17.318
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: positions. Because the

asr-002870
02:54:17.318 --> 02:54:23.571
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM, IACAT, and OOC budgets are part of a bigger budget po under

asr-002871
02:54:23.571 --> 02:54:27.192
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the Office of the Secretary. So kaya

asr-002872
02:54:27.192 --> 02:54:32.129
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: po constrained din po kami in relation doon sa kabuuang

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02:54:32.129 --> 02:54:36.628
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: budget na hinihingi po under the Office of the

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02:54:36.628 --> 02:54:38.494
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Secretary. But we

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02:54:38.494 --> 02:54:42.993
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: appreciate and take this opportunity to underscore the real

asr-002876
02:54:42.993 --> 02:54:44.420
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: operational need

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02:54:44.420 --> 02:54:46.286
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: ng mga divisions

asr-002878
02:54:46.286 --> 02:54:49.030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and units po na ito.

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02:54:49.040 --> 02:54:50.849
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, Mr. Chair.

asr-002880
02:54:50.849 --> 02:54:54.336
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hingin na lang ho natin yung original

asr-002881
02:54:54.336 --> 02:54:56.565
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposal ng mga nabanggit

asr-002882
02:54:56.565 --> 02:55:00.053
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na subprograms, mga particular bodies na nangangailangan

asr-002883
02:55:00.053 --> 02:55:04.799
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at may trabaho pagdating sa special enforcement and protection. Ngayon,

asr-002884
02:55:04.799 --> 02:55:07.028
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, nais ko

asr-002885
02:55:07.028 --> 02:55:13.033
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hong magtanong tungkol sa pag-decongest ng NBP. Nabigyan tayo kanina ng update that

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02:55:13.033 --> 02:55:16.101
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: BuCor is still on track for

asr-002887
02:55:16.101 --> 02:55:21.267
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: its 2028 target for the decongestion of the New Bilibid Prison.

asr-002888
02:55:21.267 --> 02:55:25.594
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know, Mr. Chair, if there are any

asr-002889
02:55:25.594 --> 02:55:28.242
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: complaints or concerns with regard

asr-002890
02:55:28.242 --> 02:55:33.828
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to the transfer raised before the Bureau? For instance, Mr. Chair, we've

asr-002891
02:55:33.828 --> 02:55:36.056
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: received reports na, kumbaga,

asr-002892
02:55:36.056 --> 02:55:39.964
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang request po sana ay mas malapit doon

asr-002893
02:55:39.964 --> 02:55:41.772
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga lugar

asr-002894
02:55:41.772 --> 02:55:45.260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung saan ang kanilang mga minamahal at

asr-002895
02:55:45.260 --> 02:55:49.587
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang mga pamilya, doon ho dapat mailipat yung mga

asr-002896
02:55:49.587 --> 02:55:52.655
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL. May natanggap ho ba na

asr-002897
02:55:52.655 --> 02:55:56.142
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga ganitong tipo ng concern, at ano

asr-002898
02:55:56.142 --> 02:56:00.469
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ginawa ng BuCor sa pagtugon sa mga ito?

asr-002899
02:56:00.479 --> 02:56:04.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: With the permission of Secretary...

asr-002900
02:56:04.200 --> 02:56:04.800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, you may.

asr-002901
02:56:04.810 --> 02:56:07.030
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

asr-002902
02:56:07.040 --> 02:56:10.100
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang ginagawa po ngayon sa BuCor,

asr-002903
02:56:10.100 --> 02:56:15.670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: for as long as we can hold on doon sa may nagre-request

asr-002904
02:56:15.670 --> 02:56:19.149
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na huwag muna silang ilipat, they are

asr-002905
02:56:19.149 --> 02:56:22.209
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: given, they are allowed. Opo. And

asr-002906
02:56:22.209 --> 02:56:23.177
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: then,

asr-002907
02:56:23.177 --> 02:56:27.493
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of course, ang time frame po natin is 2028,

asr-002908
02:56:27.493 --> 02:56:30.971
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: where masasara na po natin itong New

asr-002909
02:56:30.971 --> 02:56:34.450
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bilibid. That's why nabigyan po tayo ng

asr-002910
02:56:34.450 --> 02:56:36.673
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ating gobyerno ng about

asr-002911
02:56:36.673 --> 02:56:38.897
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 5 billion to spread

asr-002912
02:56:38.897 --> 02:56:41.538
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: the regionalization. Meron na po

asr-002913
02:56:41.538 --> 02:56:42.925
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tayo sa

asr-002914
02:56:42.925 --> 02:56:43.893
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Davao,

asr-002915
02:56:43.893 --> 02:56:45.698
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Zamboanga, Leyte,

asr-002916
02:56:45.698 --> 02:56:47.504
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Mindoro, and

asr-002917
02:56:47.504 --> 02:56:49.727
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: then Palawan. And then,

asr-002918
02:56:49.727 --> 02:56:55.716
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of course, ang plano po kasi namin sa mga PDL ay bigyan talaga

asr-002919
02:56:55.716 --> 02:56:57.521
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila ng bagong

asr-002920
02:56:57.521 --> 02:56:59.326
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: buhay, bagong pag-asa.

asr-002921
02:56:59.326 --> 02:57:00.712
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And itong

asr-002922
02:57:00.712 --> 02:57:05.028
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Palawan po, 32,000 hectares. Ang balak po natin diyan

asr-002923
02:57:05.028 --> 02:57:07.669
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: gawing PEZA zone para lahat

asr-002924
02:57:07.669 --> 02:57:09.893
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga PDL na

asr-002925
02:57:09.893 --> 02:57:11.698
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mailipat, mga 70%

asr-002926
02:57:11.698 --> 02:57:13.921
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na mailipat doon, doon

asr-002927
02:57:13.921 --> 02:57:15.726
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na po magtatrabaho.

asr-002928
02:57:15.726 --> 02:57:20.878
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: They will be serving as employees ng mga PEZA zone, pero

asr-002929
02:57:20.878 --> 02:57:23.520
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL pa rin po sila.

asr-002930
02:57:23.520 --> 02:57:26.162
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then paglaya nila, they

asr-002931
02:57:26.162 --> 02:57:30.059
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: will be hired as regular employees. And then

asr-002932
02:57:30.059 --> 02:57:35.211
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron din pong naibigay na lupa na 1,700 hectares para talagang

asr-002933
02:57:35.211 --> 02:57:36.597
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bigyan na

asr-002934
02:57:36.597 --> 02:57:40.076
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: rin yung mga PDL; paglaya nila, bibigyan

asr-002935
02:57:40.076 --> 02:57:41.881
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na rin po

asr-002936
02:57:41.881 --> 02:57:45.778
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila ng sariling lupa na puwede na po

asr-002937
02:57:45.778 --> 02:57:48.838
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila doon tumira. But kung gusto

asr-002938
02:57:48.838 --> 02:57:53.572
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: talaga nilang nasa Luzon lang sila, lately po binigyan tayo

asr-002939
02:57:53.572 --> 02:57:57.050
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ni Governor Umali ng Nueva Ecija ng

asr-002940
02:57:57.050 --> 02:58:00.529
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 60 hectares para doon po ilipat yung

asr-002941
02:58:00.529 --> 02:58:04.007
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga kababayan niya. And of course, kaya

asr-002942
02:58:04.007 --> 02:58:05.812
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: rin naman siguro

asr-002943
02:58:05.812 --> 02:58:09.709
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mag-absorb, for those who are north of Metro

asr-002944
02:58:09.709 --> 02:58:11.932
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Manila, doon na po

asr-002945
02:58:11.932 --> 02:58:13.738
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mailagay sa Nueva

asr-002946
02:58:13.738 --> 02:58:16.798
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ecija. Pero south of Metro Manila,

asr-002947
02:58:16.798 --> 02:58:19.439
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: may tinitingnan din po tayo

asr-002948
02:58:19.439 --> 02:58:22.918
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dito sa lupa ng UP Land Grant

asr-002949
02:58:22.918 --> 02:58:26.396
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na nire-request namin na mag-swapping kami ng

asr-002950
02:58:26.396 --> 02:58:27.783
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 500 hectares,

asr-002951
02:58:27.783 --> 02:58:30.007
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi may lupa sila

asr-002952
02:58:30.007 --> 02:58:31.812
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na 8,000 hectares

asr-002953
02:58:31.812 --> 02:58:33.198
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na nasa

asr-002954
02:58:33.198 --> 02:58:36.259
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Siniloan at meron naman kaming lupa

asr-002955
02:58:36.259 --> 02:58:37.645
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Palawan

asr-002956
02:58:37.645 --> 02:58:39.869
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na napakalaki. So mag-swap,

asr-002957
02:58:39.869 --> 02:58:42.929
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: makapagtayo din ang University of the

asr-002958
02:58:42.929 --> 02:58:45.571
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Philippines sa Palawan. And then,

asr-002959
02:58:45.571 --> 02:58:48.631
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of course, yung mga south of

asr-002960
02:58:48.631 --> 02:58:50.017
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Metro Manila,

asr-002961
02:58:50.017 --> 02:58:52.659
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: doon naman mailagay ang mga

asr-002962
02:58:52.659 --> 02:58:55.301
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL. Lately po, sa assessment

asr-002963
02:58:55.301 --> 02:58:58.361
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: namin, karamihan po ng taga-Visayas na

asr-002964
02:58:58.361 --> 02:59:01.003
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga nakakulong sa BuCor ay

asr-002965
02:59:01.003 --> 02:59:04.063
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: taga-Cebu. Kaya nag-a-appeal din po kami

asr-002966
02:59:04.063 --> 02:59:07.123
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Cebu para sa ganoon, yung

asr-002967
02:59:07.123 --> 02:59:10.183
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: karamihan ng taga-Cebu doon na rin

asr-002968
02:59:10.183 --> 02:59:13.662
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po makatira. Pero dito po sa Mindanao,

asr-002969
02:59:13.662 --> 02:59:17.977
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron na po tayo sa Davao at mayroon na

asr-002970
02:59:17.977 --> 02:59:21.456
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: rin po tayo sa Zamboanga. Pero tumitingin

asr-002971
02:59:21.456 --> 02:59:23.679
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po kami sa Central

asr-002972
02:59:23.679 --> 02:59:26.739
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mindanao at saka sa Sasa Farm

asr-002973
02:59:26.739 --> 02:59:30.218
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para sa ganoon, yung ating mga PDL

asr-002974
02:59:30.218 --> 02:59:33.696
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na gustong makabalik din sa Mindanao ay

asr-002975
02:59:33.696 --> 02:59:36.338
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: doon na rin po makulong.

asr-002976
02:59:38.296 --> 02:59:40.343
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na-raise natin, Mr. Chair,

asr-002977
02:59:40.343 --> 02:59:42.765
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang usapin na ito dahil

asr-002978
02:59:42.765 --> 02:59:45.560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may commitment din ang Pilipinas pagdating

asr-002979
02:59:45.560 --> 02:59:47.233
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa adherence niya

asr-002980
02:59:47.233 --> 02:59:48.532
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Mandela

asr-002981
02:59:48.532 --> 02:59:50.205
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Rules, sa ating

asr-002982
02:59:50.205 --> 02:59:51.878
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Standard Minimum Rules

asr-002983
02:59:51.878 --> 02:59:54.299
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for the Treatment of Prisoners.

asr-002984
02:59:54.299 --> 02:59:55.972
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Rule 59: prisoners

asr-002985
02:59:55.972 --> 02:59:58.019
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: shall be allocated, to

asr-002986
02:59:58.019 --> 03:00:01.564
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the extent possible, to prisons close to their

asr-002987
03:00:01.564 --> 03:00:05.482
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: homes or their places of social rehabilitation. So kung

asr-002988
03:00:05.482 --> 03:00:10.149
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga ganito pa na mga concerns, Mr. Chair, tayo ho

asr-002989
03:00:10.149 --> 03:00:14.068
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay makikipag-ugnayan sa BuCor para matugunan ang mga ito.

asr-002990
03:00:14.068 --> 03:00:17.238
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isa pa hong concern sa BuCor pa

asr-002991
03:00:17.238 --> 03:00:20.408
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: rin ho, Mr. Chair, ang naipaulat ho

asr-002992
03:00:20.408 --> 03:00:26.573
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nawawala na nasa 6 to 7 million sa trust funds ng mga PDL sa

asr-002993
03:00:26.573 --> 03:00:29.743
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Correctional Institution for Women. So imbes daw

asr-002994
03:00:29.743 --> 03:00:35.533
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po na 13 million ang naka-cash ay 6 million na lang ang natitira. May

asr-002995
03:00:35.533 --> 03:00:40.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: update na po ba tungkol sa investigation na may kinalaman dito?

asr-002996
03:00:40.244 --> 03:00:43.729
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, under investigation po.

asr-002997
03:00:43.729 --> 03:00:51.322
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang pinagawa ko muna, ni-relieve ko iyong deputy at saka iyong head

asr-002998
03:00:51.322 --> 03:00:58.328
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng office. Pati ni-relieve ko rin yung humahawak ng pera. And

asr-002999
03:00:58.328 --> 03:01:05.334
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: then, of course, iyon ang ina-account po namin. We just concluded

asr-003000
03:01:05.334 --> 03:01:10.579
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: the investigation last Saturday. We are awaiting the

asr-003001
03:01:10.579 --> 03:01:15.238
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: report. Ang unaccounted po na pera is

asr-003002
03:01:15.238 --> 03:01:19.309
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 6,454,405. And ito po kasi hindi

asr-003003
03:01:19.309 --> 03:01:26.316
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naman po pera ng gobyerno; pera po ito ng mga PDL.

asr-003004
03:01:26.316 --> 03:01:31.561
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya po masusing pag-iimbestiga ang aming ginagawa dito.

asr-003005
03:01:33.113 --> 03:01:38.019
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, maganda nga na natapos na ho yung investigation at

asr-003006
03:01:38.019 --> 03:01:42.134
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: manghihingi ho tayo ng pinakahuling ulat dito ng BuCor.

asr-003007
03:01:42.134 --> 03:01:46.644
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nabanggit na rin po ni DG na-relieve nga po

asr-003008
03:01:46.644 --> 03:01:48.778
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ating superintendent at

asr-003009
03:01:48.778 --> 03:01:52.497
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Deputy for Administration habang hindi pa po

asr-003010
03:01:52.497 --> 03:01:55.423
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: final itong investigation. Ngunit nabalitaan din

asr-003011
03:01:55.423 --> 03:01:58.745
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ho natin na na-reassign naman po sila

asr-003012
03:01:58.745 --> 03:02:04.048
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Office of the Deputy DG for Administration, to the BuCor National

asr-003013
03:02:04.048 --> 03:02:08.954
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Headquarters. Ang kinababahala ho natin dito ay hindi ba mako-compromise o

asr-003014
03:02:08.954 --> 03:02:14.257
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaaring makompromiso yung ating ginagawang investigation dahil po nagkaroon lamang ng reassignment,

asr-003017
03:02:14.257 --> 03:02:16.391
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa national office

asr-003018
03:02:16.391 --> 03:02:19.317
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa. Anong masasabi dito ng BuCor?

asr-003019
03:02:21.697 --> 03:02:27.647
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang pagka-attach na assignment nila is for them to be present for the

asr-003020
03:02:27.647 --> 03:02:35.260
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: investigation. And I think iyan po ang isa pang tinitingnan ko dito sa BuCor. Hindi lang ito

asr-003021
03:02:35.260 --> 03:02:38.302
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga PDL na mga pasaway, kundi

asr-003022
03:02:38.302 --> 03:02:40.929
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pati mga tauhan ko rin.

asr-003023
03:02:40.929 --> 03:02:44.803
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi po talagang marami [unclear], pero hindi naman

asr-003024
03:02:44.803 --> 03:02:47.430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po malaking porsyento, na after

asr-003025
03:02:47.430 --> 03:02:48.395
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: four

asr-003026
03:02:48.395 --> 03:02:49.361
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: years

asr-003027
03:02:49.361 --> 03:02:52.403
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of stay dito sa BuCor, may

asr-003028
03:02:52.403 --> 03:02:54.615
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga tao talagang recalcitrant,

asr-003029
03:02:54.615 --> 03:02:55.996
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: recidivist, incorrigible,

asr-003030
03:02:55.996 --> 03:02:57.376
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at saka

asr-003031
03:02:57.376 --> 03:02:58.757
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: scalawag. So

asr-003032
03:02:58.757 --> 03:03:00.138
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dinismiss ko

asr-003033
03:03:00.138 --> 03:03:02.765
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na po talaga sa serbisyo,

asr-003034
03:03:02.765 --> 03:03:03.731
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 43;

asr-003035
03:03:03.731 --> 03:03:05.527
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sinuspend ko, 137;

asr-003036
03:03:05.527 --> 03:03:07.323
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and nireprimand ko,

asr-003037
03:03:07.323 --> 03:03:09.119
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 41. So I

asr-003038
03:03:09.119 --> 03:03:11.746
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: will be very strict on

asr-003039
03:03:11.746 --> 03:03:14.374
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: this. Kahit po mga matataas

asr-003040
03:03:14.374 --> 03:03:15.754
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: silang opisyal,

asr-003041
03:03:15.754 --> 03:03:16.720
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pananagutin

asr-003042
03:03:16.720 --> 03:03:19.762
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ko sila, at kung kailangang ikulong,

asr-003043
03:03:19.762 --> 03:03:21.974
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ipakukulong ko rin sila.

asr-003044
03:03:22.463 --> 03:03:25.548
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Just a few questions, Mr. Chair, related to this

asr-003045
03:03:25.548 --> 03:03:27.224
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: issue. Last question: may

asr-003046
03:03:27.224 --> 03:03:29.182
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposal din daw ho na

asr-003047
03:03:29.182 --> 03:03:30.859
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magkaroon ng collection from

asr-003048
03:03:30.859 --> 03:03:32.817
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 3 pesos kada 5 minutes

asr-003049
03:03:32.817 --> 03:03:34.775
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga tawag to 5

asr-003050
03:03:34.775 --> 03:03:36.170
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pesos kada 5

asr-003051
03:03:36.170 --> 03:03:37.846
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: minuto sa mga tawag.

asr-003052
03:03:37.846 --> 03:03:40.086
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mangyayari pa rin ho ba ito?

asr-003053
03:03:40.086 --> 03:03:42.889
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa tingin ko ho, dapat hindi natin

asr-003054
03:03:42.889 --> 03:03:44.566
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito payagan, na yung

asr-003055
03:03:44.566 --> 03:03:46.242
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga PDL na ang

asr-003056
03:03:46.242 --> 03:03:48.200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naagrabyado, na ngayon ay nawawala

asr-003057
03:03:48.200 --> 03:03:50.159
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ho yung hindi ma-account na

asr-003058
03:03:50.159 --> 03:03:52.398
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pera, eh sila pa ho ang

asr-003059
03:03:52.398 --> 03:03:54.075
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magshu-shoulder nung mas malaking

asr-003060
03:03:54.075 --> 03:03:55.751
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga bayarin pagdating sa

asr-003061
03:03:55.751 --> 03:03:57.428
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga pag-contact at pagtawag

asr-003062
03:03:57.428 --> 03:03:59.386
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanila hong mga pamilya.

asr-003063
03:04:00.213 --> 03:04:01.488
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

asr-003064
03:04:01.488 --> 03:04:03.850
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pinaimbestigahan ko po iyan kasi

asr-003065
03:04:03.850 --> 03:04:05.849
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bawal po iyan, kahit

asr-003066
03:04:05.849 --> 03:04:07.849
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magkano o tataasan pa

asr-003067
03:04:07.849 --> 03:04:09.848
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at ipapasa, kasi dapat

asr-003068
03:04:09.848 --> 03:04:12.210
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron naman po tayong e-dalaw,

asr-003069
03:04:12.210 --> 03:04:13.123
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: o

asr-003070
03:04:13.123 --> 03:04:14.760
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron silang sariling

asr-003071
03:04:14.760 --> 03:04:16.759
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: oras para tumawag sa

asr-003072
03:04:16.759 --> 03:04:18.396
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga kamag-anak nila.

asr-003073
03:04:18.396 --> 03:04:20.396
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Hindi po tino-tolerate iyan.

asr-003074
03:04:20.396 --> 03:04:22.758
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bawal po iyan, kaya pinapaimbestigahan

asr-003075
03:04:22.758 --> 03:04:24.395
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ko rin iyan.

asr-003076
03:04:25.171 --> 03:04:27.413
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, yung konkretong plano

asr-003077
03:04:27.413 --> 03:04:29.656
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng BuCor para maibalik yung

asr-003078
03:04:29.656 --> 03:04:32.237
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nawawalang pera. Hindi po biro iyan,

asr-003079
03:04:32.237 --> 03:04:34.479
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung 6 million plus na

asr-003080
03:04:34.479 --> 03:04:36.722
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nawawalang pera. Paano ho iyan

asr-003081
03:04:36.722 --> 03:04:38.626
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maibabalik doon sa mga

asr-003082
03:04:38.626 --> 03:04:41.206
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL na lubos na umaasa doon

asr-003083
03:04:41.206 --> 03:04:44.126
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pinapadala sa kanilang pera para sa

asr-003084
03:04:44.126 --> 03:04:46.368
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga pang-araw-araw nila na mga

asr-003085
03:04:46.368 --> 03:04:48.611
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gastusin, mga pangangailangang medikal, at

asr-003086
03:04:48.611 --> 03:04:50.853
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: marami pa hong ibang mga

asr-003087
03:04:50.853 --> 03:04:52.419
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinagkakagastusan para sa

asr-003088
03:04:52.419 --> 03:04:53.646
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang kalusugan?

asr-003089
03:04:53.646 --> 03:04:55.211
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ano yung

asr-003090
03:04:55.211 --> 03:04:57.115
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: seryosong effort para ho

asr-003091
03:04:57.115 --> 03:04:58.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mabuwag na yung

asr-003092
03:04:58.680 --> 03:05:00.246
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ganitong cashless system

asr-003093
03:05:00.246 --> 03:05:02.827
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagiging pugad pa ng korupsyon

asr-003094
03:05:02.827 --> 03:05:05.408
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o nagiging pugad pa ng [unclear]

asr-003095
03:05:05.408 --> 03:05:07.650
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at mga potensyal na abuso

asr-003096
03:05:07.650 --> 03:05:08.877
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kapangyarihan?

asr-003097
03:05:09.569 --> 03:05:10.971
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

asr-003098
03:05:10.971 --> 03:05:14.077
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: seryoso po tayo diyan. Kung mapapatunayan

asr-003099
03:05:14.077 --> 03:05:16.756
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na tinangay nila yung mga

asr-003100
03:05:16.756 --> 03:05:18.158
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pera ng

asr-003101
03:05:18.158 --> 03:05:20.412
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL, kakasuhan sila at

asr-003102
03:05:20.412 --> 03:05:22.666
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: siguro i-garnish kung anumang

asr-003103
03:05:22.666 --> 03:05:25.772
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ari-arian meron sila. And then, of

asr-003104
03:05:25.772 --> 03:05:27.600
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: course, ito pong

asr-003105
03:05:27.600 --> 03:05:29.001
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: cashless system,

asr-003106
03:05:29.001 --> 03:05:30.403
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: talagang medyo

asr-003107
03:05:30.403 --> 03:05:32.657
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: masalimuot. Nung isang araw

asr-003108
03:05:32.657 --> 03:05:34.059
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: lang, nagpa-raid

asr-003109
03:05:34.059 --> 03:05:35.461
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ako sa

asr-003110
03:05:35.461 --> 03:05:36.437
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: NBP

asr-003111
03:05:36.437 --> 03:05:39.117
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at nakakuha naman ako ng

asr-003112
03:05:39.117 --> 03:05:40.945
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2 million na

asr-003113
03:05:40.945 --> 03:05:42.347
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: cash na

asr-003114
03:05:42.347 --> 03:05:43.323
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakakalat

asr-003115
03:05:43.323 --> 03:05:46.002
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: o hawak ng mga PDL.

asr-003116
03:05:46.002 --> 03:05:49.108
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang PDL po, authorized humawak lang

asr-003117
03:05:49.108 --> 03:05:51.788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng 2,000 kada isang linggo,

asr-003118
03:05:51.788 --> 03:05:52.764
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: or

asr-003119
03:05:52.764 --> 03:05:54.166
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 8,000 per

asr-003120
03:05:54.166 --> 03:05:56.845
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: month. Pero yung nakuha po

asr-003121
03:05:56.845 --> 03:05:58.673
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: natin na 2

asr-003122
03:05:58.673 --> 03:06:01.779
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: million, kinumpiska ko po iyon. Kaya

asr-003123
03:06:01.779 --> 03:06:04.459
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi pag naman in-allow natin

asr-003124
03:06:04.459 --> 03:06:06.713
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila na may pera,

asr-003125
03:06:06.713 --> 03:06:08.115
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magsusugal po

asr-003126
03:06:08.115 --> 03:06:09.942
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iyan, maglilibang, ay

asr-003127
03:06:09.942 --> 03:06:11.770
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magkakagulo na naman.

asr-003128
03:06:11.770 --> 03:06:14.450
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Dahil tandaan natin, yung last

asr-003129
03:06:14.450 --> 03:06:16.278
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2023, nagkagulo kasi

asr-003130
03:06:16.278 --> 03:06:17.680
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagsusugal sila.

asr-003131
03:06:17.680 --> 03:06:19.508
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So talaga pong

asr-003132
03:06:19.508 --> 03:06:21.762
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kailangang pag-aralan kung papaano

asr-003133
03:06:21.762 --> 03:06:24.441
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang sistema na may pera

asr-003134
03:06:24.441 --> 03:06:26.695
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila na tag-2,000 lang.

asr-003135
03:06:26.695 --> 03:06:28.949
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At yung wala, kahit

asr-003136
03:06:28.949 --> 03:06:29.925
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sino

asr-003137
03:06:29.925 --> 03:06:32.179
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: man naman nagpapadala, kasi

asr-003138
03:06:32.179 --> 03:06:34.859
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: yung iba naman nasa abroad,

asr-003139
03:06:34.859 --> 03:06:37.964
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi naman puwedeng every week magpapadala

asr-003140
03:06:37.964 --> 03:06:39.366
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng 2,000;

asr-003141
03:06:39.366 --> 03:06:41.620
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nag-iiwan ng malaki. Pero

asr-003142
03:06:41.620 --> 03:06:44.300
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dapat talagang may system. Ang

asr-003143
03:06:44.300 --> 03:06:46.128
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pinakasistema diyan, pagka

asr-003144
03:06:46.128 --> 03:06:47.956
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagbigay ng pera,

asr-003145
03:06:47.956 --> 03:06:49.783
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ide-deposit sa cashier

asr-003146
03:06:49.783 --> 03:06:52.037
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at hindi puwedeng hawakan

asr-003147
03:06:52.037 --> 03:06:54.717
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga individual na tao.

asr-003148
03:06:55.105 --> 03:06:57.461
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, hindi pa rin ho

asr-003149
03:06:57.461 --> 03:06:59.515
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malinaw kung kailan ibabalik yung

asr-003150
03:06:59.515 --> 03:07:02.172
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pera. Kailan po ibabalik itong pera na

asr-003151
03:07:02.172 --> 03:07:04.527
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito na kailangang-kailangan ng ating mga

asr-003152
03:07:04.527 --> 03:07:06.883
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL? Marami po dito may mga

asr-003153
03:07:06.883 --> 03:07:08.637
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sakit at nakasalalay po

asr-003154
03:07:08.637 --> 03:07:10.691
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sila, kumbaga, doon sa mga

asr-003155
03:07:10.691 --> 03:07:12.144
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinapadala sa kanilang

asr-003156
03:07:12.144 --> 03:07:15.101
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pera. May we know the stand of the

asr-003157
03:07:15.101 --> 03:07:16.253
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Secretary on

asr-003158
03:07:16.253 --> 03:07:19.211
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: this? Hayaan na lang ba natin na nawawala

asr-003159
03:07:19.211 --> 03:07:21.566
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito, o magkaroon tayo ng malinaw

asr-003160
03:07:21.566 --> 03:07:22.718
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na commitment

asr-003161
03:07:22.718 --> 03:07:24.472
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung kailan dapat maibalik

asr-003162
03:07:24.472 --> 03:07:25.624
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang unaccounted

asr-003163
03:07:25.624 --> 03:07:27.979
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga nawawalang milyon-milyon na ito

asr-003164
03:07:27.979 --> 03:07:29.733
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa PDL Trust Fund?

asr-003165
03:07:29.800 --> 03:07:32.175
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Unang-una po, aalamin natin kung sino-sino

asr-003166
03:07:32.175 --> 03:07:34.246
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila talagang nawalan ng pera.

asr-003167
03:07:34.246 --> 03:07:36.317
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya lang ang problema dito,

asr-003168
03:07:36.317 --> 03:07:37.779
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: [unclear] natin dahil

asr-003169
03:07:37.779 --> 03:07:40.458
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: about 3,000 po iyang mga PDL na

asr-003170
03:07:40.458 --> 03:07:41.617
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nawalan ng

asr-003171
03:07:41.617 --> 03:07:43.687
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pera. Hindi natin alam kung

asr-003172
03:07:43.687 --> 03:07:46.062
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magkano ang individual na nawalan ng

asr-003173
03:07:46.062 --> 03:07:47.221
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pera bawat

asr-003174
03:07:47.221 --> 03:07:49.292
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: isa. So that's the first

asr-003175
03:07:49.292 --> 03:07:51.971
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: step. We will give you an update

asr-003176
03:07:51.971 --> 03:07:52.825
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po,

asr-003177
03:07:52.825 --> 03:07:54.592
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Congresswoman, kung paano ginagawa

asr-003178
03:07:54.592 --> 03:07:56.662
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ito, at ginagarantiya ko po

asr-003179
03:07:56.662 --> 03:07:59.037
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na gagawin kong lahat ng paraan

asr-003180
03:07:59.037 --> 03:08:01.412
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para mabawi po ng mga PDL

asr-003181
03:08:01.412 --> 03:08:03.179
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iyang kanilang mga pera.

asr-003182
03:08:03.398 --> 03:08:04.778
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes po, Mr. Chair.

asr-003183
03:08:04.778 --> 03:08:06.572
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sana bago ho ang ating plenaryo

asr-003184
03:08:06.572 --> 03:08:08.574
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay magkaroon na ng malinaw na timeline

asr-003185
03:08:08.574 --> 03:08:09.747
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano maibabalik

asr-003186
03:08:09.747 --> 03:08:10.504
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at

asr-003187
03:08:10.504 --> 03:08:11.884
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mabuwag na po sana

asr-003188
03:08:11.884 --> 03:08:13.056
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong ganitong sistema

asr-003189
03:08:13.056 --> 03:08:14.436
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may nawawalang pera,

asr-003190
03:08:14.436 --> 03:08:16.023
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagiging pugad ng korupsyon, at

asr-003191
03:08:16.023 --> 03:08:17.611
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matiyak na mapabuti natin yung

asr-003192
03:08:17.611 --> 03:08:18.783
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga serbisyo. Dahil

asr-003193
03:08:18.783 --> 03:08:19.955
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ako rin ho

asr-003194
03:08:19.955 --> 03:08:20.920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay kasama,

asr-003195
03:08:20.920 --> 03:08:22.300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang sa pagre-restore

asr-003196
03:08:22.300 --> 03:08:23.265
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng cuts

asr-003197
03:08:23.265 --> 03:08:24.644
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nung mga nawalan ho

asr-003198
03:08:24.644 --> 03:08:25.609
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pondo,

asr-003199
03:08:25.609 --> 03:08:26.782
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi pagtitiyak din

asr-003200
03:08:26.782 --> 03:08:28.576
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na meron tayong sapat na pondo

asr-003201
03:08:28.576 --> 03:08:29.956
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa hinahangad natin

asr-003202
03:08:29.956 --> 03:08:30.921
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na rehabilitation,

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03:08:30.921 --> 03:08:32.301
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtitiyak ng restorative justice,

asr-003204
03:08:32.301 --> 03:08:33.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at pagpapalakas ng sistema

asr-003205
03:08:33.680 --> 03:08:35.060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng hustisya sa bansa.

asr-003206
03:08:35.060 --> 03:08:36.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

asr-003207
03:08:36.575 --> 03:08:38.636
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Elago.

asr-003208
03:08:38.636 --> 03:08:40.697
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So ganoon lang po,

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03:08:40.697 --> 03:08:42.003
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: DG Catapang.

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03:08:42.003 --> 03:08:43.308
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: At least

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03:08:43.308 --> 03:08:45.370
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: provide the office of

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03:08:45.370 --> 03:08:47.053
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Sarah yung

asr-003213
03:08:47.053 --> 03:08:49.114
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: status po ng investigation

asr-003214
03:08:49.114 --> 03:08:50.420
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: regarding that

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03:08:50.420 --> 03:08:52.103
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: case. Next in

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03:08:52.103 --> 03:08:53.787
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: line from the

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03:08:53.787 --> 03:08:55.470
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: majority: Cong. Mika,

asr-003218
03:08:55.470 --> 03:08:56.775
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Salvador,

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03:08:56.775 --> 03:08:58.081
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Dinand,

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03:08:58.081 --> 03:08:59.387
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Christina

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03:08:59.387 --> 03:09:01.070
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Talavera Lopez po.

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03:09:01.080 --> 03:09:03.742
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-003223
03:09:04.279 --> 03:09:04.968
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Good afternoon,

asr-003224
03:09:05.270 --> 03:09:06.328
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Secretary Vida.

asr-003225
03:09:06.782 --> 03:09:08.025
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: My question is for the

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03:09:08.025 --> 03:09:09.385
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Office of the Solicitor General.

asr-003227
03:09:10.359 --> 03:09:11.617
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ma'am, good afternoon po.

asr-003228
03:09:11.617 --> 03:09:14.861
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: With regards to the budget

asr-003229
03:09:14.861 --> 03:09:16.965
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the Law of the Sea program,

asr-003230
03:09:17.181 --> 03:09:18.911
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: is it included in your MOOE?

asr-003231
03:09:19.560 --> 03:09:20.811
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And according to your office,

asr-003232
03:09:21.016 --> 03:09:22.510
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the amount of 10 million pesos

asr-003233
03:09:22.510 --> 03:09:24.956
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: was allocated for fiscal year

asr-003234
03:09:24.956 --> 03:09:27.048
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026 for this program.

asr-003235
03:09:27.570 --> 03:09:28.429
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Is that correct, ma’am?

asr-003236
03:09:28.560 --> 03:09:28.971
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Tama po.

asr-003237
03:09:29.037 --> 03:09:30.926
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: At iyan po ay kasama sa hirit last year.

asr-003238
03:09:30.926 --> 03:09:31.534
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Salamat po sa pagdagdag ng 10 million

asr-003239
03:09:31.600 --> 03:09:34.688
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you for adding 10 million

asr-003240
03:09:34.688 --> 03:09:36.400
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for the Law of the Sea

asr-003241
03:09:36.400 --> 03:09:38.643
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: training and capability

asr-003242
03:09:38.643 --> 03:09:41.924
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: upgrade for OSG.

asr-003243
03:09:41.948 --> 03:09:44.110
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ma’am, my question is,

asr-003244
03:09:44.188 --> 03:09:45.636
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: is this amount lumped with

asr-003245
03:09:45.636 --> 03:09:47.470
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: training and scholarship expense

asr-003246
03:09:47.470 --> 03:09:49.671
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: or any other expenses

asr-003247
03:09:49.671 --> 03:09:51.698
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: under your office MOOE?

asr-003248
03:09:52.200 --> 03:09:52.948
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Kahiwalay po.

asr-003249
03:09:53.363 --> 03:09:55.003
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So mula po noong natanggap

asr-003250
03:09:55.003 --> 03:09:56.914
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: namin iyong na-allocate

asr-003251
03:09:56.914 --> 03:09:59.344
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng Kongreso na 10 million,

asr-003252
03:09:59.759 --> 03:10:01.981
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ang OSG po

asr-003253
03:10:01.981 --> 03:10:04.452
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: this year nag-set up

asr-003254
03:10:04.452 --> 03:10:06.155
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: a separate committee

asr-003255
03:10:06.155 --> 03:10:07.588
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on the Law of the Sea

asr-003256
03:10:07.588 --> 03:10:10.101
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: para iyong training po ay nakahiwalay

asr-003257
03:10:10.101 --> 03:10:12.115
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: doon sa capacity

asr-003258
03:10:12.115 --> 03:10:13.091
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: building program

asr-003259
03:10:13.091 --> 03:10:15.209
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na halo-halo po iyong mga ibang trainings doon.

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03:10:15.479 --> 03:10:16.823
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So there's a separate one now.

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03:10:17.525 --> 03:10:17.906
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay.

asr-003262
03:10:18.267 --> 03:10:20.213
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: I'm raising this because

asr-003263
03:10:20.213 --> 03:10:23.122
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: if it’s lumped with TSE,

asr-003264
03:10:23.643 --> 03:10:24.887
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: then we are not training

asr-003265
03:10:24.887 --> 03:10:26.733
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the government lawyers enough po

asr-003266
03:10:26.733 --> 03:10:28.217
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: on maritime issues.

asr-003267
03:10:28.859 --> 03:10:30.704
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And also, we are not sending enough

asr-003268
03:10:30.704 --> 03:10:32.670
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: lawyers to participate in

asr-003269
03:10:32.670 --> 03:10:35.358
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: negotiation relating to maritime concerns.

asr-003270
03:10:35.820 --> 03:10:37.204
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: According to your office, ma'am,

asr-003271
03:10:37.284 --> 03:10:38.327
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the actual obligation

asr-003272
03:10:38.327 --> 03:10:40.935
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of the Law of the Sea program

asr-003273
03:10:40.935 --> 03:10:42.179
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: is only 422,000

asr-003274
03:10:42.319 --> 03:10:44.336
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: out of 10 million.

asr-003275
03:10:44.908 --> 03:10:45.551
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So ibig sabihin po,

asr-003276
03:10:45.551 --> 03:10:48.639
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ang utilization rate pa lang po natin

asr-003277
03:10:48.639 --> 03:10:50.800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: as of now is 5%.

asr-003278
03:10:50.800 --> 03:10:51.835
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Tama po ba iyon, ma’am?

asr-003279
03:10:51.960 --> 03:10:54.220
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Tama po. Sapagkat iyong 10 million

asr-003280
03:10:54.220 --> 03:10:56.149
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na hiningi po ng OSG

asr-003281
03:10:56.149 --> 03:10:58.556
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: is more or less

asr-003282
03:10:58.556 --> 03:11:00.265
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: related to our celebration

asr-003283
03:11:00.265 --> 03:11:01.827
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: of the 10th

asr-003284
03:11:01.827 --> 03:11:03.590
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: anniversary for the

asr-003285
03:11:03.590 --> 03:11:04.564
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: arbitral ruling.

asr-003286
03:11:04.766 --> 03:11:06.016
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: The 10th anniversary

asr-003287
03:11:06.016 --> 03:11:07.394
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ay pumapatak sa July.

asr-003288
03:11:08.239 --> 03:11:08.495
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So,

asr-003289
03:11:09.816 --> 03:11:11.159
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: naka-align po sa

asr-003290
03:11:11.159 --> 03:11:14.441
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: projects or programs ng DFA.

asr-003291
03:11:14.910 --> 03:11:16.509
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So, marami po sa 10 million

asr-003292
03:11:16.509 --> 03:11:18.555
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ay nandito sa second semester.

asr-003293
03:11:18.811 --> 03:11:20.111
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So meron po tayo sa

asr-003294
03:11:20.111 --> 03:11:22.157
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: September na

asr-003295
03:11:22.157 --> 03:11:24.459
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: training with a foreign

asr-003296
03:11:24.459 --> 03:11:27.060
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: provider. Meron po tayo sa October

asr-003297
03:11:27.060 --> 03:11:29.404
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na joint project

asr-003298
03:11:29.404 --> 03:11:31.280
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: with the UP Institute for

asr-003299
03:11:31.280 --> 03:11:33.497
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Maritime and Law

asr-003300
03:11:33.497 --> 03:11:35.564
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: of the Sea. And meron din po

asr-003301
03:11:35.564 --> 03:11:37.610
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: tayo sa November na training

asr-003302
03:11:37.610 --> 03:11:38.783
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for around

asr-003303
03:11:38.783 --> 03:11:41.745
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 80 scholars po ng

asr-003304
03:11:41.788 --> 03:11:44.559
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng OSG. So, agree po ako

asr-003305
03:11:44.559 --> 03:11:46.029
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: dun sa una nyo pong nasabi.

asr-003306
03:11:46.200 --> 03:11:47.801
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Kaya po gusto ko pong

asr-003307
03:11:47.801 --> 03:11:49.831
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ulitin at i-emphasize na

asr-003308
03:11:49.831 --> 03:11:51.712
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: kahiwalay na po ang Law of the Sea

asr-003309
03:11:51.712 --> 03:11:53.127
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: at saka yung capacity building

asr-003310
03:11:53.127 --> 03:11:55.343
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for more specialized training

asr-003311
03:11:55.343 --> 03:11:56.441
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for our lawyers.

asr-003312
03:11:57.000 --> 03:11:58.892
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay, ma'am. Kasi po, kung

asr-003313
03:11:58.892 --> 03:12:01.091
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: titignan po natin, as of today, may

asr-003314
03:12:01.091 --> 03:12:03.641
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 95% pa po kayong available.

asr-003315
03:12:03.641 --> 03:12:05.615
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And then we have only

asr-003316
03:12:05.615 --> 03:12:07.876
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: four months left po for this

asr-003317
03:12:07.876 --> 03:12:10.015
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: year. So paano ninyo po gagamitin

asr-003318
03:12:10.015 --> 03:12:11.618
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: iyong pondong natitira sa

asr-003319
03:12:11.659 --> 03:12:13.551
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 10 million pesos?

asr-003320
03:12:13.880 --> 03:12:16.123
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Opo, Representative. So bale

asr-003321
03:12:16.123 --> 03:12:17.961
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: naka-schedule po siya. Meron po

asr-003322
03:12:17.961 --> 03:12:19.779
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa September, Thought Series

asr-003323
03:12:19.779 --> 03:12:21.881
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thought Leaders

asr-003324
03:12:21.881 --> 03:12:23.941
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Series. Sa October

asr-003325
03:12:23.941 --> 03:12:25.962
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po, with the UP project.

asr-003326
03:12:26.406 --> 03:12:27.962
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Sa October to November

asr-003327
03:12:27.962 --> 03:12:29.699
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po, meron po kaming workshop

asr-003328
03:12:29.699 --> 03:12:31.841
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on pleadings, practice and

asr-003329
03:12:31.841 --> 03:12:34.427
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: programs

asr-003330
03:12:34.427 --> 03:12:35.862
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: with the Max Planck

asr-003331
03:12:35.862 --> 03:12:38.023
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Institute. And then, meron din po

asr-003332
03:12:38.023 --> 03:12:39.822
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: tayong, napapasama na po

asr-003333
03:12:39.822 --> 03:12:41.498
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ang OSG sa mga negotiation,

asr-003334
03:12:42.004 --> 03:12:43.822
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: consultation with international

asr-003335
03:12:43.822 --> 03:12:45.701
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: bodies, such as the UN

asr-003336
03:12:45.701 --> 03:12:47.964
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Commission for

asr-003337
03:12:47.964 --> 03:12:50.247
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Commission on the Limits of the Continental

asr-003338
03:12:50.247 --> 03:12:52.307
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Shelf, at saka sa UNCLOS po.

asr-003339
03:12:52.469 --> 03:12:54.229
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So at least iyong kaunting

asr-003340
03:12:54.229 --> 03:12:56.158
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: budget na naibigay po

asr-003341
03:12:56.158 --> 03:12:57.750
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ninyo, at least may

asr-003342
03:12:57.750 --> 03:12:59.510
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: naka-upgrade po nang kaunti

asr-003343
03:12:59.510 --> 03:13:01.888
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: sa participation po ng OSG.

asr-003344
03:13:02.600 --> 03:13:03.559
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay, thank you po, ma'am.

asr-003345
03:13:03.659 --> 03:13:04.918
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi, siyempre po,

asr-003346
03:13:05.717 --> 03:13:07.316
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: if the Congress grants your request

asr-003347
03:13:07.316 --> 03:13:09.634
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the retention of LOS program

asr-003348
03:13:09.634 --> 03:13:10.973
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for allocation

asr-003349
03:13:11.413 --> 03:13:13.151
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for 2027,

asr-003350
03:13:13.871 --> 03:13:15.469
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: how can your office assure

asr-003351
03:13:15.469 --> 03:13:17.608
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the Congress that government

asr-003352
03:13:17.608 --> 03:13:19.446
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: lawyers will be fully trained

asr-003353
03:13:19.446 --> 03:13:21.405
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: on maritime issues and help

asr-003354
03:13:21.405 --> 03:13:23.743
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the government in battling the rampant

asr-003355
03:13:23.743 --> 03:13:25.521
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: disinformation regarding our

asr-003356
03:13:25.521 --> 03:13:26.780
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: territorial claims?

asr-003357
03:13:26.880 --> 03:13:29.582
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Representative, maraming salamat po talaga

asr-003358
03:13:29.582 --> 03:13:31.251
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa atensyon na nabibigay po ninyo.

asr-003359
03:13:31.350 --> 03:13:33.337
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Napaka-importante po. Kasi nung nanalo tayo

asr-003360
03:13:33.337 --> 03:13:35.801
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng arbitral ruling, nung 2016

asr-003361
03:13:35.801 --> 03:13:37.549
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na ito po'y kinikilala ng international

asr-003362
03:13:37.549 --> 03:13:39.357
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: community, simula po

asr-003363
03:13:39.357 --> 03:13:41.145
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng 2017, talagang nagkaroon

asr-003364
03:13:41.304 --> 03:13:42.973
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na po ng focused training

asr-003365
03:13:42.973 --> 03:13:45.198
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on law of the sea. And this year po,

asr-003366
03:13:45.357 --> 03:13:46.788
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: gawa noong inyong additional

asr-003367
03:13:46.788 --> 03:13:49.152
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na ibinigay kahit po maliit,

asr-003368
03:13:49.331 --> 03:13:51.298
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: very meaningful and impactful po

asr-003369
03:13:51.298 --> 03:13:52.966
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa OSG. So,

asr-003370
03:13:53.463 --> 03:13:55.370
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: in fact, ang direksyon

asr-003371
03:13:55.370 --> 03:13:57.337
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po natin sa OSG ay magkaroon

asr-003372
03:13:57.337 --> 03:13:58.808
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng specialized track

asr-003373
03:13:58.808 --> 03:14:00.933
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for our lawyers who are

asr-003374
03:14:00.933 --> 03:14:03.377
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: interested in undertaking

asr-003375
03:14:03.377 --> 03:14:04.967
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: scholarship for the law of the sea

asr-003376
03:14:04.967 --> 03:14:06.576
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: because this is a very specialized

asr-003377
03:14:06.576 --> 03:14:08.801
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: practice of law po, Representative.

asr-003378
03:14:09.417 --> 03:14:11.169
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you for the information.

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Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Solgen. Lastly,

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03:14:13.401 --> 03:14:15.362
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Mr. Chair, I would like to make a

asr-003381
03:14:15.362 --> 03:14:17.156
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: manifestation of full support

asr-003382
03:14:17.156 --> 03:14:18.950
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the increase of budget

asr-003383
03:14:18.950 --> 03:14:21.098
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of Department of Justice,

asr-003384
03:14:21.328 --> 03:14:22.913
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: siyempre po kay Sec Vida.

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03:14:23.539 --> 03:14:24.936
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And also, I would like to

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03:14:24.936 --> 03:14:27.982
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: advocate for the increase of MOOE

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03:14:27.982 --> 03:14:29.358
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for Solgen.

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03:14:29.984 --> 03:14:32.091
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Sana po mangyari na po itong mga wishlist

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03:14:32.091 --> 03:14:34.010
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ninyo. Looking forward po

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03:14:34.010 --> 03:14:35.262
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for 2027,

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03:14:36.096 --> 03:14:37.848
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: mas ma-improve pa po natin ang services

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03:14:37.848 --> 03:14:39.892
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ng Office of the Solicitor General

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03:14:39.892 --> 03:14:42.229
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and the rest of the Department of Justice.

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03:14:42.479 --> 03:14:43.222
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Maraming maraming salamat po.

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03:14:43.222 --> 03:14:43.473
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you po.

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03:14:43.943 --> 03:14:45.645
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Tina Talavera Lopez.

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03:14:46.610 --> 03:14:48.311
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority

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03:14:48.311 --> 03:14:49.627
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: representative.

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03:14:49.715 --> 03:14:51.807
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Perci Cendana.

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03:14:56.279 --> 03:14:57.477
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

asr-003401
03:14:57.581 --> 03:15:01.072
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Good afternoon, Secretary Vida and to the DOJ family.

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03:15:01.558 --> 03:15:04.267
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I'd just like to follow through, if I may, Mr. Secretary,

asr-003403
03:15:04.840 --> 03:15:10.190
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: on the issues that were raised, particularly on online sexual abuse and exploitation of children,

asr-003404
03:15:10.467 --> 03:15:13.439
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: kasama po iyong CSEAEM at iyong ating massive budget cuts.

asr-003405
03:15:13.439 --> 03:15:16.609
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: May I direct the questions po? Diretso na po ba kay Asec. Lapuz?

asr-003406
03:15:17.600 --> 03:15:18.559
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yes, of course, Your Honor.

asr-003407
03:15:19.000 --> 03:15:20.284
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

asr-003408
03:15:22.233 --> 03:15:30.603
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Secretary Vida, given the massive cuts in your programs and budget items,

asr-003409
03:15:31.199 --> 03:15:34.716
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: what does this mean in terms of you doing your job?

asr-003410
03:15:35.390 --> 03:15:42.696
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kasi nakita ko po ang range po ng cuts ay from 71%, 58%,

asr-003411
03:15:42.696 --> 03:15:45.521
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 14%. So ano po ang magiging epekto nito sa ating trabaho?

asr-003412
03:15:46.960 --> 03:15:49.172
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Your Honor, for the question.

asr-003413
03:15:50.202 --> 03:15:50.928
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: First of all,

asr-003414
03:15:51.080 --> 03:15:59.019
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: mapapabagal iyong national response po natin against OSAEC and against trafficking.

asr-003415
03:15:59.528 --> 03:16:04.252
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Meron po kaming nakalatag ngayon na National Strategic Action Plan.

asr-003416
03:16:04.350 --> 03:16:05.644
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: It's a four-year plan.

asr-003417
03:16:06.154 --> 03:16:08.780
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And with the massive budget cuts,

asr-003418
03:16:09.074 --> 03:16:15.523
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: meron pong mga priority programs na maaaring hindi ma-implement.

asr-003419
03:16:15.523 --> 03:16:19.679
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And alam naman po natin, pag sinasabi nating strategic action plan,

asr-003420
03:16:20.482 --> 03:16:22.423
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: kailangan naka-step by step iyan.

asr-003421
03:16:22.560 --> 03:16:26.284
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Hindi ka maka-proceed to other important programs

asr-003422
03:16:26.284 --> 03:16:28.597
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: unless you build the foundations first.

asr-003423
03:16:28.597 --> 03:16:32.792
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Ang maganda po dito, despite limitations in resources,

asr-003424
03:16:33.439 --> 03:16:38.865
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: nakabuo na po tayo ng magandang mechanism for local task forces

asr-003425
03:16:38.865 --> 03:16:42.282
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to do responses on the ground.

asr-003426
03:16:42.924 --> 03:16:48.930
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Pero kulang na kulang po iyong capability by these local task forces

asr-003427
03:16:48.930 --> 03:16:50.007
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: because,

asr-003428
03:16:50.815 --> 03:16:55.185
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: una, kulang po iyong budget allocations.

asr-003429
03:16:55.185 --> 03:16:56.324
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: At the same time,

asr-003430
03:16:56.924 --> 03:16:58.353
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: fragmented pa rin po iyong response.

asr-003431
03:17:00.259 --> 03:17:03.199
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Kailangan itawid iyong national program

asr-003432
03:17:03.199 --> 03:17:09.040
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: at i-localize po siya sa mga strategic local governments

asr-003433
03:17:09.040 --> 03:17:12.270
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and local task forces that are already in place.

asr-003434
03:17:12.395 --> 03:17:15.377
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: However, if we don't have enough resources

asr-003435
03:17:15.377 --> 03:17:18.276
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to support the operations of these mechanisms,

asr-003436
03:17:18.276 --> 03:17:20.347
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: mapapabagal po iyong rescue operations.

asr-003437
03:17:21.880 --> 03:17:25.681
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Important po iyong rescue operations

asr-003438
03:17:25.681 --> 03:17:29.060
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: because this leads to victim identification.

asr-003439
03:17:29.377 --> 03:17:31.066
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: If we identify victims,

asr-003440
03:17:31.214 --> 03:17:34.360
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: then we know how to get to them,

asr-003441
03:17:34.445 --> 03:17:35.247
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: where they are,

asr-003442
03:17:35.395 --> 03:17:36.092
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: who they are.

asr-003443
03:17:36.177 --> 03:17:37.254
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We can rescue them.

asr-003444
03:17:37.507 --> 03:17:42.280
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We can take a child out of an abusive situation

asr-003445
03:17:42.280 --> 03:17:43.399
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the soonest possible time.

asr-003446
03:17:43.800 --> 03:17:47.459
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we are really advocating po to, at the very least,

asr-003447
03:17:47.459 --> 03:17:52.351
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: restore the budget levels of NCC-OSAEC and IACAT to the 2026 levels.

asr-003448
03:17:52.840 --> 03:17:56.529
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mr. Chair, I am extremely alarmed

asr-003449
03:17:56.529 --> 03:17:58.935
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at the scenario we're looking at

asr-003450
03:17:58.935 --> 03:18:02.920
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to the budget levels for the special enforcement

asr-003451
03:18:02.920 --> 03:18:04.971
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: and protection sub-program

asr-003452
03:18:04.971 --> 03:18:07.338
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: remain at the current levels as proposed.

asr-003453
03:18:08.127 --> 03:18:10.672
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ibig sabihin po nito, parang sinasabi natin,

asr-003454
03:18:10.869 --> 03:18:13.848
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: okay lang na hindi ma-rescue ang mga biktima.

asr-003455
03:18:14.479 --> 03:18:17.487
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Okay lang na bumagal ang ating proseso

asr-003456
03:18:17.487 --> 03:18:19.650
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para tiyakin na maililigtas sila.

asr-003457
03:18:19.650 --> 03:18:21.381
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: We usually say that the budget

asr-003458
03:18:21.381 --> 03:18:22.383
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: is the most concrete,

asr-003459
03:18:22.403 --> 03:18:25.844
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: expression of an administration's priority.

asr-003460
03:18:25.844 --> 03:18:29.521
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ibig sabihin po ba nito dito sa massive budget cuts na ito,

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03:18:29.521 --> 03:18:35.420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: hindi priority ng gobyerno ang pagliligtas sa mga biktima ng OSAEC.

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03:18:35.420 --> 03:18:40.591
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Hindi priority ng gobyerno ang pag-rescue sa lalong madaling panahon

asr-003463
03:18:40.591 --> 03:18:45.015
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa pinakamabilis na paraan ito pong mga biktima po.

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03:18:45.015 --> 03:18:51.405
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nito pong napakalaking, masasabi nating, sindikato

asr-003465
03:18:51.405 --> 03:18:52.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na nag-ooperate.

asr-003466
03:18:52.880 --> 03:18:55.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Earlier you mentioned that now we're not just talking about individuals

asr-003467
03:18:55.880 --> 03:18:59.380
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: but we're also talking about how AI is being used.

asr-003468
03:18:59.380 --> 03:19:00.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: With this massive budget cuts,

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03:19:00.880 --> 03:19:04.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: how will you be able to respond to this much bigger problem?

asr-003470
03:19:05.880 --> 03:19:10.004
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We need to catch up, sir, on our mechanisms.

asr-003471
03:19:10.004 --> 03:19:12.581
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Dahil nga po, constantly evolving

asr-003472
03:19:12.581 --> 03:19:16.705
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and nagiging mas complicated yung modus operandi

asr-003473
03:19:16.705 --> 03:19:20.829
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: ng mga gumagawa po ng illegal recruitment, for example,

asr-003474
03:19:20.829 --> 03:19:21.695
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: or grooming,

asr-003475
03:19:21.695 --> 03:19:25.303
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: na-mention po kanina ni Secretary of Justice

asr-003476
03:19:25.303 --> 03:19:32.520
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: iyong groomers behind iyong mga nihilistic violent extremism incidents po.

asr-003477
03:19:32.520 --> 03:19:39.394
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Now we don't even need an actual person conducting the enticement of our youth.

asr-003478
03:19:39.394 --> 03:19:43.813
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: It could be an AI agent doing that.

asr-003479
03:19:43.813 --> 03:19:50.687
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And if we don't put in place the foundations of our IT infrastructure

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03:19:50.687 --> 03:19:57.561
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: for the proper, timely, and commensurate response to the threat,

asr-003481
03:19:57.561 --> 03:20:01.980
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the AI po being used to perpetrate these crimes,

asr-003482
03:20:01.980 --> 03:20:03.453
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: that is the threat.

asr-003483
03:20:03.453 --> 03:20:11.800
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And we need to provide for a corresponding response to the threat.

asr-003484
03:20:11.800 --> 03:20:16.308
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we need to consider yung constantly evolving mechanisms po

asr-003485
03:20:16.308 --> 03:20:18.562
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of how these crimes are being perpetrated.

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03:20:18.562 --> 03:20:22.618
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For us to be able to be one, two, three steps ahead of the threats.

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03:20:22.618 --> 03:20:23.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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03:20:23.520 --> 03:20:24.720
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you, Usec.

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03:20:24.720 --> 03:20:26.520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Asec.

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03:20:26.520 --> 03:20:31.315
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So hindi lamang po pala yung mga masasamang elementong ito ang threat

asr-003491
03:20:31.315 --> 03:20:33.712
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa kaligtasan ng ating mga kabataan.

asr-003492
03:20:33.712 --> 03:20:36.589
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yung mismo pong budget na pinutol at tinanggal

asr-003493
03:20:36.589 --> 03:20:38.986
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: is also a threat to the safety of our children.

asr-003494
03:20:38.986 --> 03:20:43.301
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Again, we support you in restoring your budget to the 2026 levels.

asr-003495
03:20:43.301 --> 03:20:47.137
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And kahit po kami ay bahagi ng minority, kasama niyo po kami.

asr-003496
03:20:47.617 --> 03:20:51.932
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: We support your advocacy para po sa lalong madaling panahon ma-restore to 2026 levels.

asr-003497
03:20:51.932 --> 03:20:55.288
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Deserve po ng ating mga bata na maprotektahan.

asr-003498
03:20:55.288 --> 03:20:57.685
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At yung mga nasa peligro na po,

asr-003499
03:20:57.685 --> 03:21:03.439
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: deserve na deserve nila ang immediate rescue at assistance.

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03:21:03.439 --> 03:21:12.000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mr. Chair, let me direct my next set of questions to the Bureau of Immigration.

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03:21:12.000 --> 03:21:13.600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Magandang hapon po, Commissioner Viado.

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03:21:13.600 --> 03:21:16.720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Magandang hapon po, Congressman Cendana.

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03:21:16.720 --> 03:21:17.678
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Magandang hapon po.

asr-003504
03:21:17.678 --> 03:21:19.595
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ito po ay tungkol po sa usapin ng

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03:21:19.595 --> 03:21:25.346
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nung mga paggamit ng blacklist at entry restrictions as a political tool.

asr-003506
03:21:25.346 --> 03:21:28.221
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nakita po natin yan noong nakaraang administrasyon.

asr-003507
03:21:28.221 --> 03:21:33.971
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ginamit itong mga blacklist at entry restrictions laban sa mga advocates,

asr-003508
03:21:33.971 --> 03:21:38.763
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: laban sa mga aktibista, at laban sa mismong kinatawan ng United Nations

asr-003509
03:21:38.763 --> 03:21:40.680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na human rights advocate.

asr-003510
03:21:40.680 --> 03:21:44.737
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ginamit ito in aid of violence and impunity.

asr-003511
03:21:44.737 --> 03:21:48.794
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Noong 2026 po, sinabi ng Amnesty International Philippines,

asr-003512
03:21:48.794 --> 03:21:54.880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nananatiling mayroong entry ban si Amnesty International Secretary General Agnès Callamard

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03:21:54.880 --> 03:22:00.965
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: as a result of her previous work as, again, UN Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial Killings.

asr-003514
03:22:00.965 --> 03:22:07.051
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nagsimula po ang ban na ito noong 2018, bunga ng public attack ni former President Rodrigo Duterte.

asr-003515
03:22:07.051 --> 03:22:12.122
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kaya mahalaga pong malaman natin meron po bang sapat na safeguards ang BI

asr-003516
03:22:12.122 --> 03:22:17.193
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: upang matiyak na hindi ito nagagamit arbitrarily, hindi ito naweweaponize,

asr-003517
03:22:17.193 --> 03:22:23.279
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at para po tiyakin na hindi ito ginagamit laban sa human rights work and peaceful advocacy.

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03:22:23.279 --> 03:22:32.960
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: The first question, Mr. Chair: maaari po bang kumpirmahin ng BI ang kasalukuyang status ng entry restriction kay Ms. Agnès Callamard?

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03:22:32.960 --> 03:22:50.000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If I may confirm with my colleague, Your Honor.

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03:22:50.000 --> 03:22:57.667
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honors, ang lahat po ng desisyon ng Bureau of Immigration ay dumaan po sa proseso, unang-una.

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03:22:57.667 --> 03:22:58.482
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang information po na nakalap namin ay hindi lang po galing sa vetting na ginawa ng Bureau of Immigration,

asr-003524
03:22:59.297 --> 03:23:00.926
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but galing po sa ibang mga ahensya,

asr-003525
03:23:00.926 --> 03:23:01.741
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: dito po and internationally.

asr-003526
03:23:01.741 --> 03:23:05.000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We refer to Interpol lists, we refer to fugitive status of individuals bago po kami umaksyon.

asr-003527
03:23:05.000 --> 03:23:11.165
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And internally, Your Honor, bago po kami mag-issue ng any blacklist, dumadaan po iyan sa proseso

asr-003528
03:23:11.165 --> 03:23:17.331
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kung saan ang legal division, ang amin hong mga abogado sa legal division,

asr-003529
03:23:17.331 --> 03:23:20.414
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and eventually iyong mga Board of Special Inquiry at Board of Commissioners.

asr-003530
03:23:20.845 --> 03:23:26.887
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Dinadaanan po iyan ng hindi lang maikling proseso pero mahaba-haba po, Your Honor.

asr-003531
03:23:27.319 --> 03:23:33.399
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So we can assure po, Your Honors, na any decision, any order concerning any blacklist

asr-003532
03:23:33.399 --> 03:23:37.204
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ay dumaan po sa tamang proseso at legal na pamamaraan po, Your Honor.

asr-003533
03:23:37.204 --> 03:23:45.519
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po arbitrary, hindi po

asr-003534
03:23:45.720 --> 03:23:49.198
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: at the behest of any individual. Ito po ay ginagawa po sa level po ng aming bureau.

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03:23:49.198 --> 03:23:56.453
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So the question again, Mr. Chair, ano po ang status ng entry restriction kay Ms. Agnès Callamard?

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03:23:56.560 --> 03:24:05.937
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Again po, si Ms. Agnès Callamard po, sigurado ako wala po iyan sa blacklist ng Interpol.

asr-003537
03:24:05.937 --> 03:24:15.421
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: She is former United Nations Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial Killings.

asr-003538
03:24:16.960 --> 03:24:20.515
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We are confirming po iyong status ni Special Rapporteur Callamard.

asr-003539
03:24:20.885 --> 03:24:25.610
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But kung base po dito sa information po na nakalap namin ngayon, galing po dito sa honorable body na ito,

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03:24:25.625 --> 03:24:28.868
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we are willing to also review the status of the Special Rapporteur.

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03:24:29.120 --> 03:24:37.994
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Because we are in favor of human rights, we are in favor of other persons from other countries coming into our country

asr-003542
03:24:37.994 --> 03:24:42.485
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and to see how we have gone forward as far as human rights are concerned, Your Honor.

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03:24:43.319 --> 03:24:46.757
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mr. Chair, thank you very much, Commissioner Viado, for that response.

asr-003544
03:24:47.164 --> 03:24:50.195
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And we welcome your willingness to review your guidelines, no?

asr-003545
03:24:50.195 --> 03:24:55.321
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Lalo na po pagdating sa mga human rights defenders, international advocates, journalists,

asr-003546
03:24:55.525 --> 03:24:58.027
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: academics, and especially UN officials.

asr-003547
03:24:58.800 --> 03:25:05.146
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sa proseso po noong pag-review, inaasahan po natin na hindi na ito magagamit as a political weapon

asr-003548
03:25:05.146 --> 03:25:08.728
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: against voices of dissent, against voices of human rights.

asr-003549
03:25:08.960 --> 03:25:14.330
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nagawa na po ito noong madilim na panahon ng Rehimen Duterte, huwag na po nating hayaang maulit.

asr-003550
03:25:14.527 --> 03:25:18.165
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: That will be all, Mr. Chair. Marami pong salamat sa DOJ family.

asr-003551
03:25:18.560 --> 03:25:19.441
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you rin po, Your Honor.

asr-003552
03:25:19.840 --> 03:25:21.031
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Congressman Cendana.

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03:25:21.618 --> 03:25:22.952
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the majority.

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03:25:26.000 --> 03:25:30.790
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Rep. Ann Matibag.

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03:25:34.593 --> 03:25:39.870
Rep. Ann Matibag: Ann Matibag. Thank you. Um, I just want to interject also,

asr-003556
03:25:39.880 --> 03:25:45.070
Rep. Ann Matibag: no, after what my good friend Cong. Perci

asr-003557
03:25:45.080 --> 03:25:50.030
Rep. Ann Matibag: has conveyed, especially to the OSAEC cases. We are really disheartened on

asr-003558
03:25:50.040 --> 03:25:55.429
Rep. Ann Matibag: what happened with the deduction of your budget, and

asr-003559
03:25:55.439 --> 03:26:00.389
Rep. Ann Matibag: with the OSAEC cases, we were more surprised

asr-003560
03:26:00.399 --> 03:26:05.309
Rep. Ann Matibag: that much in the Department, 'yung mga law enforcement pa,

asr-003561
03:26:05.319 --> 03:26:10.710
Rep. Ann Matibag: 'yung mas nabawasan din, no, like the Bureau of Immigration and the National

asr-003562
03:26:10.720 --> 03:26:14.910
Rep. Ann Matibag: Bureau of Investigation. So I just want to commend Mr.

asr-003563
03:26:14.920 --> 03:26:20.030
Rep. Ann Matibag: Chair, Secretary Vida, and your whole team.

asr-003564
03:26:20.040 --> 03:26:25.790
Rep. Ann Matibag: We were in New York, in the United Nations, last March. I am with Usec. Majken Anika, and

asr-003565
03:26:25.800 --> 03:26:30.590
Rep. Ann Matibag: I want to commend their program, which is the Revised CANE+D

asr-003566
03:26:30.600 --> 03:26:36.030
Rep. Ann Matibag: Protocol, which is intended to provide a more standardized and coordinated

asr-003567
03:26:36.040 --> 03:26:41.269
Rep. Ann Matibag: way of handling cases such as this of violence against women and children.

asr-003568
03:26:41.279 --> 03:26:45.990
Rep. Ann Matibag: So this emphasizes the clarity on the responsibilities of the agencies involved,

asr-003569
03:26:46.000 --> 03:26:51.150
Rep. Ann Matibag: coordinating among them, and a more child-sensitive approach to investigation

asr-003570
03:26:51.160 --> 03:26:56.750
Rep. Ann Matibag: and prosecution. So this is not just a policy in paper. I just want to

asr-003571
03:26:56.760 --> 03:27:01.670
Rep. Ann Matibag: tell—and I'm just so proud of this program of the Department

asr-003572
03:27:01.680 --> 03:27:06.710
Rep. Ann Matibag: of Justice—and this has already begun

asr-003573
03:27:06.720 --> 03:27:12.269
Rep. Ann Matibag: bringing the Revised Protocol to the local level. I remember when

asr-003574
03:27:12.279 --> 03:27:16.910
Rep. Ann Matibag: my group, my social organization, Zonta Club of Laguna,

asr-003575
03:27:16.920 --> 03:27:22.229
Rep. Ann Matibag: went to the office of Secretary Vida, and he was very happy to tell us that

asr-003576
03:27:22.239 --> 03:27:27.389
Rep. Ann Matibag: this is not just laws. This is not just a memorandum or any piece of paper or

asr-003577
03:27:27.399 --> 03:27:32.429
Rep. Ann Matibag: a policy, but they already launched nationally in August

asr-003578
03:27:32.439 --> 03:27:37.469
Rep. Ann Matibag: 2025, followed by the provincial implementation in Cavite in

asr-003579
03:27:37.479 --> 03:27:41.670
Rep. Ann Matibag: March 2026 and in Cebu in July 2026.

asr-003580
03:27:41.680 --> 03:27:47.309
Rep. Ann Matibag: So for me, this is exactly the kind of program that deserves support in the

asr-003581
03:27:47.319 --> 03:27:53.070
Rep. Ann Matibag: 2027 budget, especially I'm the chairperson of the Committee on Women and Gender

asr-003582
03:27:53.080 --> 03:27:58.150
Rep. Ann Matibag: Equality, and I'm with Cong. Sarah Elago and Cong. Perci,

asr-003583
03:27:58.160 --> 03:28:02.950
Rep. Ann Matibag: who are members of my committee. Rest assured that I just want to manifest my

asr-003584
03:28:02.960 --> 03:28:08.630
Rep. Ann Matibag: support, that we will make sure that your budget will not only be increased,

asr-003585
03:28:08.640 --> 03:28:13.790
Rep. Ann Matibag: but with what you wish and hope for to have, especially to the department

asr-003586
03:28:13.800 --> 03:28:18.710
Rep. Ann Matibag: of the wife of Cong. Keith—she's the director—so we

asr-003587
03:28:18.720 --> 03:28:23.590
Rep. Ann Matibag: are in support of that. And maybe before the plenary session, we can

asr-003588
03:28:23.600 --> 03:28:29.030
Rep. Ann Matibag: huddle and think things together, and maybe discuss on

asr-003589
03:28:29.040 --> 03:28:33.910
Rep. Ann Matibag: how we can really explain

asr-003590
03:28:33.920 --> 03:28:39.349
Rep. Ann Matibag: and discuss this budget that we need to really

asr-003591
03:28:39.359 --> 03:28:44.309
Rep. Ann Matibag: bring it back to the DOJ's wish. And I am very happy to

asr-003592
03:28:44.319 --> 03:28:49.030
Rep. Ann Matibag: see everyone here. DOJ, special po kayo dahil

asr-003593
03:28:49.040 --> 03:28:54.389
Rep. Ann Matibag: ako'y pinalaki ng isang fiscal—ang tatay ko.

asr-003594
03:28:54.399 --> 03:28:59.550
Rep. Ann Matibag: Especially now that NBI here is very,

asr-003595
03:28:59.560 --> 03:29:04.710
Rep. Ann Matibag: very responsive to the needs of being a law enforcement for women and children.

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03:29:04.720 --> 03:29:09.968
Rep. Ann Matibag: So, maraming-maraming salamat po. You have my support and respect. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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03:29:11.099 --> 03:29:15.750
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Ann Matibag, sa suporta po sa ating pong ahensya.

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03:29:15.760 --> 03:29:20.853
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority, Representative Leila de Lima.

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03:29:24.720 --> 03:29:26.359
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

asr-003600
03:29:26.359 --> 03:29:27.371
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Good afternoon to my colleagues.

asr-003601
03:29:27.493 --> 03:29:31.986
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And good afternoon to Secretary Vida and the DOJ family.

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03:29:31.986 --> 03:29:34.010
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Kumusta po kayo?

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03:29:34.010 --> 03:29:35.021
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay.

asr-003604
03:29:35.021 --> 03:29:44.048
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Let me start by manifesting not only my support for the budget, the department-wide budget

asr-003605
03:29:44.048 --> 03:29:49.512
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: of the DOJ, but also support for the push for the restoration of some of the areas of

asr-003606
03:29:49.512 --> 03:29:50.160
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: the DOJ.

asr-003613
03:29:50.160 --> 03:29:55.819
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: some of the budget that was cut, including the ones for OSAEC and also

asr-003614
03:29:55.819 --> 03:30:04.095
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: for IACAT. And we do note very much the significant cuts, of course, in the

asr-003615
03:30:04.095 --> 03:30:12.553
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: DOJ-wide budget, a 61.82% cut, and then the biggest among the agencies is the

asr-003616
03:30:12.553 --> 03:30:22.168
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Bucor by 84.18% cut. I'm talking about the NEP as against the proposed budget

asr-003617
03:30:22.168 --> 03:30:35.596
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: and then also NBI as 65.84%. So ang gusto ko pong i-ano ngayon, lalo na dyan sa Bucor and sa NBI, if you wish to

asr-003618
03:30:35.596 --> 03:30:42.127
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: insist about or for more in your wish list for increase in the budget, please

asr-003619
03:30:42.127 --> 03:30:42.573
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: tell us.

asr-003621
03:30:43.486 --> 03:30:50.058
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But specific items in the budget for Bucor, for DOJ, for NBI, and even the

asr-003622
03:30:50.058 --> 03:30:58.172
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: others, OSG and even PAO, so that we can help you out, at least put back the

asr-003623
03:30:58.172 --> 03:31:05.656
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: priority, your priority programs that were actually cut in the NEP.

asr-003625
03:31:06.265 --> 03:31:15.372
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Now, I wish to direct my questions first to BI.

asr-003627
03:31:16.224 --> 03:31:22.898
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: then to Bucor and the DOJ proper.

asr-003628
03:31:25.920 --> 03:31:29.619
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I would wish also to pursue further the case of Dr. Calamard.

asr-003629
03:31:29.912 --> 03:31:30.351
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, ma'am.

asr-003630
03:31:30.937 --> 03:31:36.046
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: It struck me what you said, that it was not at any behest when you make any blacklisting.

asr-003631
03:31:36.138 --> 03:31:36.797
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, ma'am.

asr-003632
03:31:36.797 --> 03:31:40.862
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Sa case ho ba ni Dr. Callamard, ganoon? It was at no one’s behest.

asr-003633
03:31:41.833 --> 03:31:43.280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as I know, Your Honor.

asr-003634
03:31:43.444 --> 03:31:45.166
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: We want to understand further.

asr-003635
03:31:46.576 --> 03:31:49.359
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: What was the legal basis for the blacklisting of Dr. Calamard?

asr-003636
03:31:49.359 --> 03:31:55.119
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Your Honor, based on the record, it was a national security concern, Your Honor.

asr-003637
03:31:55.119 --> 03:31:56.708
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: A national security concern?

asr-003638
03:31:56.708 --> 03:31:57.701
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes.

asr-003639
03:31:57.701 --> 03:32:01.673
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Do you have any specific explanation for that?

asr-003640
03:32:01.673 --> 03:32:03.659
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: National security concern?

asr-003641
03:32:03.659 --> 03:32:05.645
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Meron ho bang security threat?

asr-003642
03:32:05.645 --> 03:32:07.631
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: There was no crime committed, correct?

asr-003643
03:32:07.631 --> 03:32:09.617
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: There was no crime committed?

asr-003644
03:32:09.617 --> 03:32:11.604
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as I know, Your Honor, no.

asr-003645
03:32:11.604 --> 03:32:13.590
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And there was no immigration violation?

asr-003646
03:32:13.590 --> 03:32:14.583
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-003647
03:32:14.583 --> 03:32:15.615
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Immigration laws violation?

asr-003648
03:32:15.615 --> 03:32:16.609
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-003649
03:32:16.609 --> 03:32:17.602
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Immigration laws violation committed.

asr-003650
03:32:17.602 --> 03:32:20.581
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But what you are saying now is a national security threat.

asr-003651
03:32:20.581 --> 03:32:21.574
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-003652
03:32:21.574 --> 03:32:32.497
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But isn’t she the one who investigated the drug-war killings as the former UN Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial killings?

asr-003653
03:32:32.497 --> 03:32:33.491
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, yes.

asr-003654
03:32:33.491 --> 03:32:39.449
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That is based on the records available, Your Honor, to us at the moment, Your Honor.

asr-003655
03:32:39.449 --> 03:32:44.414
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I can dig deeper into this matter, Your Honor, because this matter, I think, was...

asr-003656
03:32:45.407 --> 03:32:52.359
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: occurred even before we came into, you know, we were appointed to the Bureau of Immigration.

asr-003657
03:32:52.359 --> 03:32:55.338
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But if...

asr-003658
03:32:55.338 --> 03:33:01.296
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So hanggang ngayon po, hindi ninyo talaga alam exactly kung anong naging basehan?

asr-003659
03:33:01.296 --> 03:33:07.255
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang basehan po is based on reports from a national security agency, Your Honor.

asr-003660
03:33:07.255 --> 03:33:14.206
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But I can give you the details and the other facts and issues concerning this matter.

asr-003661
03:33:15.199 --> 03:33:19.122
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If you can give us a chance, Your Honor, we can give you a full detailed report on that matter.

asr-003662
03:33:19.122 --> 03:33:23.044
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Hindi ho ba merong motion for reconsideration with respect to that?

asr-003663
03:33:23.044 --> 03:33:29.909
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: As far back as August 2026, there is this motion for reconsideration on the blacklisting of Dr. Calamard.

asr-003664
03:33:29.909 --> 03:33:30.890
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the lifting, Your Honor?

asr-003665
03:33:30.890 --> 03:33:34.813
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: For the lifting, for the lifting of the blacklist.

asr-003666
03:33:34.813 --> 03:33:43.639
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And isn’t it that under the BI Omnibus Rules, the commissioner is supposed to resolve a lifting petition within 15 working days?

asr-003667
03:33:44.620 --> 03:33:45.600
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor...

asr-003668
03:33:45.600 --> 03:33:49.523
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Bakit napakatagal na iyong ginagawa ninyong review about the case of Dr. Callamard?

asr-003669
03:33:49.523 --> 03:33:53.446
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, as far as I know, there is no pending matter involving this.

asr-003670
03:33:53.446 --> 03:33:57.368
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But once we get back to the office, Your Honor, we will act on it right away.

asr-003671
03:33:57.368 --> 03:33:59.330
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: How soon can we expect that?

asr-003672
03:33:59.330 --> 03:34:07.175
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Because this is, you know, this matter is being monitored, actually, by certain UN officials.

asr-003673
03:34:07.175 --> 03:34:09.137
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor. We understand, Your Honor.

asr-003674
03:34:09.137 --> 03:34:12.079
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We will act on it right away by tomorrow, Your Honor.

asr-003675
03:34:12.079 --> 03:34:13.059
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay.

asr-003676
03:34:14.040 --> 03:34:18.189
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay. Doon naman po sa CAIS.

asr-003677
03:34:18.189 --> 03:34:19.227
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That’s the CAIS, Your Honor.

asr-003678
03:34:19.227 --> 03:34:20.264
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: The CAIS.

asr-003679
03:34:20.264 --> 03:34:21.301
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

asr-003680
03:34:21.301 --> 03:34:24.413
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: May pino-propose kayong additional P480 fee.

asr-003681
03:34:24.413 --> 03:34:25.451
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor.

asr-003682
03:34:25.451 --> 03:34:27.525
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the CAISS.

asr-003683
03:34:27.525 --> 03:34:34.787
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Bago ho ninyo na-propose itong fee na ito, was there any alternative funding source being considered?

asr-003684
03:34:34.787 --> 03:34:44.123
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Considering, Your Honor, that this is a public-private partnership program, Your Honor, there was no alternative discussed.

asr-003685
03:34:44.123 --> 03:34:49.309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: This is an unsolicited proposal which came from a private proponent.

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03:34:49.309 --> 03:35:00.720
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes. So why should—I mean, I’m just wondering—why should the cost of modernizing immigration infrastructure be passed on to the traveling public, even if it’s covered by a PPP?

asr-003687
03:35:00.720 --> 03:35:12.482
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, first and foremost, we need a more integrative program which covers

asr-003688
03:35:12.482 --> 03:35:19.343
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a border security platform with biometrics, advanced analytics, and passenger information system, actually, to enhance national security and immigration control, Your Honor.

asr-003689
03:35:19.343 --> 03:35:29.145
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At the moment, there is no particular program which can be funded by the national government at this level.

asr-003690
03:35:29.145 --> 03:35:38.947
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The private proponent proposes to put the capitalization in the amount of 10.7 billion for the next five years.

asr-003691
03:35:38.947 --> 03:35:41.888
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And with the constant upgrade of the system every four years

asr-003692
03:35:41.888 --> 03:35:46.788
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for the next 20-year period, Your Honor, at no cost to the government.

asr-003693
03:35:46.788 --> 03:35:47.769
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At no cost to the government.

asr-003694
03:35:47.769 --> 03:35:49.729
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At no cost to the government, Your Honor.

asr-003695
03:35:49.729 --> 03:35:56.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But you’re still insisting on the P480 fee, because that is what is being demanded.

asr-003696
03:35:56.590 --> 03:36:02.471
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Actually, Your Honor, it is P240 per ticket.

asr-003697
03:36:02.471 --> 03:36:07.372
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So if it’s a round-trip ticket, Your Honor, it’s P480.

asr-003698
03:36:07.372 --> 03:36:09.333
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Compared to other countries, this is way below.

asr-003699
03:36:09.333 --> 03:36:11.293
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: This is actually the practice in other countries.

asr-003700
03:36:11.293 --> 03:36:22.075
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The US, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan have been doing this at costs which is much higher than what we are proposing.

asr-003701
03:36:22.075 --> 03:36:31.877
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As a matter of fact, Your Honor, if you can compare, Australia charges about 2,600 pesos per passenger.

asr-003702
03:36:31.877 --> 03:36:34.817
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Singapore charges 2,400.

asr-003703
03:36:34.817 --> 03:36:38.738
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Japan charges about 1,200.

asr-003704
03:36:38.738 --> 03:36:40.698
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hong Kong charges about 1,500.

asr-003705
03:36:40.698 --> 03:36:42.659
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thailand charges about 1,500.

asr-003706
03:36:42.659 --> 03:36:47.560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And Thailand charges about 1,800, Your Honor.

asr-003707
03:36:47.560 --> 03:36:49.520
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So it stays?

asr-003708
03:36:49.520 --> 03:36:50.565
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I'm sorry, Your Honor.

asr-003709
03:36:50.565 --> 03:36:52.654
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: The imposition of that fee would stay?

asr-003710
03:36:52.654 --> 03:36:53.698
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I'm sorry, Your Honor?

asr-003711
03:36:53.698 --> 03:36:55.788
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: It would stay?

asr-003712
03:36:55.788 --> 03:36:57.877
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is still under review, Your Honor.

asr-003713
03:36:57.877 --> 03:36:59.966
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The contract is still under review, yes.

asr-003714
03:36:59.966 --> 03:37:03.100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We have not signed any contract.

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03:37:03.100 --> 03:37:07.278
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is still under review by the DOF.

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03:37:07.278 --> 03:37:09.368
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The DOJ finished the review already.

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03:37:09.368 --> 03:37:16.680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is still under review by the Department of Finance and other concerned government agencies, Your Honor.

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03:37:16.680 --> 03:37:23.801
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Sa BuCor naman po, nasaan na po ngayon si retired Major General Jovito Palparan?

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03:37:23.801 --> 03:37:29.904
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Is he still physically present and confined at the moment at the maximum security compound?

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03:37:29.904 --> 03:37:32.956
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: With the permission of our Secretary, yes.

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03:37:32.956 --> 03:37:38.042
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ma'am, General Palparan is still with us.

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03:37:38.042 --> 03:37:41.094
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: He is confined in New Bilibid Prison.

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03:37:41.094 --> 03:37:50.249
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Why were there reports that there were notices addressed to Palparan from the Supreme Court

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03:37:50.249 --> 03:37:59.404
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: and then was returned or they were returned unserved because prison authorities refused to receive them,

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03:37:59.404 --> 03:38:02.455
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: stating that Palparan was no longer detained there?

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03:38:02.455 --> 03:38:07.542
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: In fact, the envelopes of these notices bear a specific annotation.

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03:38:07.542 --> 03:38:08.559
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: It says,

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03:38:08.559 --> 03:38:11.610
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Moved out, transferred to BuCor, Baguio.

asr-003729
03:38:11.610 --> 03:38:15.679
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: In a separate envelope, moved out to PMA, Baguio.

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03:38:15.679 --> 03:38:17.714
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So which is which?

asr-003731
03:38:17.714 --> 03:38:18.731
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: I think...

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03:38:18.731 --> 03:38:20.766
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Ang bilis naman po ng five minutes.

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03:38:22.800 --> 03:38:26.440
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Hinold ninyo ho ba iyong sasagot?

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03:38:26.440 --> 03:38:28.260
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But anyway, please answer that.

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03:38:28.260 --> 03:38:30.079
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

asr-003736
03:38:30.079 --> 03:38:33.719
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: General Palparan has never been moved out from New Bilibid Prison.

asr-003737
03:38:33.719 --> 03:38:35.539
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: from New Bilibid Prison.

asr-003738
03:38:35.539 --> 03:38:37.359
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: The one who...

asr-003739
03:38:37.359 --> 03:38:41.310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: The post-office officials are now being investigated

asr-003740
03:38:41.310 --> 03:38:45.260
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: because they are the ones who are at fault.

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03:38:45.260 --> 03:38:50.199
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Sila po ang may kasalanan niyan na nag-report sila na hindi kami in-inform.

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03:38:50.199 --> 03:38:52.174
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya po inimbestigahan?

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03:38:52.174 --> 03:38:57.112
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Actually, tinanggal na sila at iniimbestigahan po ngayon.

asr-003744
03:38:57.112 --> 03:38:58.100
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So under investigation?

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03:38:58.100 --> 03:38:59.087
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Under investigation.

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03:38:59.087 --> 03:39:02.050
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Kasi bakit sila maglalagay ng ganoong annotation kung hindi totoo?

asr-003747
03:39:02.050 --> 03:39:03.038
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Iyon nga po.

asr-003748
03:39:03.038 --> 03:39:04.026
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Obviously,

asr-003749
03:39:04.026 --> 03:39:06.001
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: oversight po ng mga tauhan iyan.

asr-003750
03:39:06.001 --> 03:39:08.964
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Iyan po iyong problema sa BuCor.

asr-003751
03:39:08.964 --> 03:39:11.927
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May mga tao diyan talaga na

asr-003752
03:39:11.927 --> 03:39:13.902
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: incorrigible,

asr-003753
03:39:13.902 --> 03:39:14.890
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: recidivist,

asr-003754
03:39:14.890 --> 03:39:17.853
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iyong mga hindi talaga seryoso sa trabaho.

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03:39:17.853 --> 03:39:18.840
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: That is...

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03:39:18.840 --> 03:39:20.816
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: You’re talking about the BuCor employees themselves?

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03:39:20.816 --> 03:39:21.803
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes. Opo.

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03:39:21.803 --> 03:39:22.791
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: That's why I...

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03:39:22.791 --> 03:39:27.729
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Kung binabago natin iyong pamamalakad sa mga PDL,

asr-003760
03:39:27.729 --> 03:39:31.680
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: binabago din natin iyong pamamalakad natin sa mga tauhan.

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03:39:31.680 --> 03:39:32.829
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So on your word, Director General,

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03:39:32.829 --> 03:39:40.871
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Major General Palparan was never actually transferred to any facility?

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03:39:40.871 --> 03:39:42.020
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Never.

asr-003764
03:39:42.020 --> 03:39:43.168
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Never.

asr-003765
03:39:43.168 --> 03:39:46.615
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: May I ask one more question on Bucor?

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03:39:46.615 --> 03:39:47.764
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Ask a question.

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03:39:47.764 --> 03:39:48.913
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay.

asr-003768
03:39:48.913 --> 03:39:52.359
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Although I have several more, but this one.

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03:39:52.359 --> 03:39:58.344
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: There’s still illegal drug trade going on within your facilities,

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03:39:58.344 --> 03:40:02.334
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: including the New Bilibid Prison, NBP.

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03:40:02.334 --> 03:40:03.332
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes.

asr-003772
03:40:03.332 --> 03:40:06.324
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: I must admit, Your Honor.

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03:40:06.324 --> 03:40:08.319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Ano ho ba ang nagiging problema?

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03:40:08.319 --> 03:40:11.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang problema po, iyong mga PDL.

asr-003775
03:40:11.319 --> 03:40:15.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Unang-una, hindi sila na-rehab; dinala sa amin.

asr-003776
03:40:15.319 --> 03:40:18.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So may withdrawal symptoms sila.

asr-003777
03:40:18.319 --> 03:40:20.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag tinanong sila ng bibisitahin,

asr-003778
03:40:20.319 --> 03:40:23.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: “Ano bang gusto ninyong ibigay,

asr-003779
03:40:23.319 --> 03:40:24.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dalhin, pasalubong o pagkain?”

asr-003780
03:40:24.319 --> 03:40:26.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: What do you want to eat?

asr-003781
03:40:26.319 --> 03:40:27.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang hinihingi po, drugs.

asr-003782
03:40:27.319 --> 03:40:28.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So...

asr-003783
03:40:28.319 --> 03:40:30.319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: At bakit ho nakakalusot ang drugs?

asr-003784
03:40:30.319 --> 03:40:32.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi po nilalagay sa private parts, eh.

asr-003785
03:40:32.319 --> 03:40:36.319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But you have inspection procedures, correct?

asr-003786
03:40:36.319 --> 03:40:37.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, ma'am.

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03:40:37.319 --> 03:40:38.319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And based on reports,

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03:40:38.319 --> 03:40:42.319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: you have actually tightened those inspection procedures.

asr-003789
03:40:42.319 --> 03:40:43.319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, ma'am.

asr-003790
03:40:43.319 --> 03:40:45.235
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May nakakalusot pong pailan-ilan

asr-003791
03:40:45.235 --> 03:40:49.068
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi talaga pong nasa private parts.

asr-003792
03:40:49.068 --> 03:40:50.026
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then, of course,

asr-003793
03:40:50.026 --> 03:40:54.817
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: may mga tao tayong in connivance with PDLs.

asr-003794
03:40:54.817 --> 03:40:55.775
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So I must admit.

asr-003795
03:40:55.775 --> 03:40:58.649
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya iyan po iyong nire-report ko sa inyo,

asr-003796
03:40:58.649 --> 03:41:00.566
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na isipin ninyo.

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03:41:00.566 --> 03:41:01.524
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Think about it.

asr-003798
03:41:01.524 --> 03:41:02.482
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Isang nurse

asr-003799
03:41:02.482 --> 03:41:05.356
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagpasok ng pandesal

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03:41:05.356 --> 03:41:07.273
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na may shabu—

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03:41:07.273 --> 03:41:08.231
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pandesal, pandeshal.

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03:41:08.231 --> 03:41:09.189
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Shabu.

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03:41:09.189 --> 03:41:10.147
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pandeshal.

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03:41:10.147 --> 03:41:11.105
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So...

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03:41:11.105 --> 03:41:12.063
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So nakasuhan po iyon.

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03:41:12.063 --> 03:41:13.979
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Tanggal na sa serbisyo iyon.

asr-003807
03:41:13.979 --> 03:41:14.938
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So...

asr-003808
03:41:14.938 --> 03:41:15.896
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang mga na-dismiss po diyan

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03:41:15.896 --> 03:41:17.812
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ay 43.

asr-003810
03:41:17.812 --> 03:41:20.686
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Suspended, 137.

asr-003811
03:41:20.686 --> 03:41:21.645
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And of course,

asr-003812
03:41:21.645 --> 03:41:23.561
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: reprimanded, 41.

asr-003813
03:41:23.561 --> 03:41:24.519
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, ma'am,

asr-003814
03:41:24.519 --> 03:41:26.435
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi po katulad dito ng military.

asr-003815
03:41:26.435 --> 03:41:27.393
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Outright,

asr-003816
03:41:27.393 --> 03:41:28.352
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: puwede ko,

asr-003817
03:41:28.352 --> 03:41:30.268
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: using the Articles of War,

asr-003818
03:41:30.268 --> 03:41:32.184
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tanggal ka na sa serbisyo.

asr-003819
03:41:32.184 --> 03:41:34.100
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero dito po,

asr-003820
03:41:34.100 --> 03:41:35.059
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: But here,

asr-003821
03:41:35.059 --> 03:41:36.017
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi puwede.

asr-003822
03:41:36.017 --> 03:41:36.975
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Dadaan sa Civil Service;

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03:41:36.975 --> 03:41:38.891
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang daming proseso.

asr-003824
03:41:38.891 --> 03:41:39.849
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Hindi po tayo makakapag-weed out

asr-003825
03:41:39.849 --> 03:41:40.807
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga bulok na tauhan

asr-003826
03:41:40.807 --> 03:41:41.766
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: that are coming from

asr-003827
03:41:41.766 --> 03:41:44.640
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng BuCor kaagad-agad.

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03:41:44.640 --> 03:41:46.854
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Follow-up lang po ito.

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03:41:46.854 --> 03:41:47.961
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Iyong mga tina-transfer ninyo,

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03:41:47.961 --> 03:41:49.067
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: we know na meron kayong mga tina-transfer

asr-003831
03:41:49.067 --> 03:41:52.388
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa mga penal colonies

asr-003832
03:41:52.388 --> 03:41:53.495
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na mga PDLs.

asr-003833
03:41:53.495 --> 03:41:54.602
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: That's correct.

asr-003834
03:41:54.602 --> 03:41:56.815
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nababantayan ho ba talaga iyon?

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03:41:56.815 --> 03:42:08.703
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang ginawa ko, for the longest time, iyong Chinese drug lords sa NBP, nilipat ko lahat sa Mindoro, sa Supermax.

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03:42:08.880 --> 03:42:17.263
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At iyong report naman namin, we will submit to you, na drastically nabawasan na natin ang pagpasok ng mga drugs.

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03:42:17.263 --> 03:42:29.075
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May mga nangyayari po. Iyong bibisitang misis may dala-dalang drugs, nilalagay sa private parts.

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03:42:30.123 --> 03:42:37.114
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Meron ngang kuwento sa akin iyong mga guard, nagbibiro: nahuli raw nila kasi iyong cellphone nag-ring.

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03:42:37.781 --> 03:42:42.811
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then nakuha doon sa private parts niya, may cellphone, may adaptor, meron pang drugs.

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03:42:43.306 --> 03:42:45.154
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So napakaliit na babae.

asr-003841
03:42:45.345 --> 03:42:45.821
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo. Totoo po.

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03:42:45.840 --> 03:42:45.954
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes, that's true.

asr-003843
03:42:46.202 --> 03:42:46.812
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Paano po iyon?

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03:42:47.250 --> 03:42:48.641
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Meron pong nangyaring ganoon.

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03:42:49.479 --> 03:42:58.656
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya talaga po, pagka ayaw nilang magpa-inspection, hindi na po namin puwedeng mag-conjugal visit kung ayaw magpa-inspect noong misis.

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03:43:01.762 --> 03:43:08.761
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Tinatanong ko rin po iyan kasi iyong mga so-called witnesses doon sa kaso ko, those who gave perjurious testimonies,

asr-003847
03:43:09.467 --> 03:43:12.593
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: iyong mga nai-transfer na po, iyon ho ba iyong mga nababantayan?

asr-003848
03:43:13.602 --> 03:43:14.610
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: They were watched.

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03:43:15.034 --> 03:43:15.215
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: That's why.

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03:43:15.881 --> 03:43:17.757
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: You know who I’m referring to?

asr-003851
03:43:17.858 --> 03:43:24.110
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: All those drug lords, those witnesses who testified in my cases—they were supposed to be transferred.

asr-003852
03:43:24.473 --> 03:43:25.885
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Nandoon po sila sa Mindoro?

asr-003853
03:43:26.954 --> 03:43:27.398
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes.

asr-003854
03:43:27.640 --> 03:43:29.688
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag bumibisita ako, nagno-noise barrage sila.

asr-003855
03:43:30.543 --> 03:43:32.888
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Tapos sabi ko, “Picturan mo lahat iyong nag-iingay.”

asr-003856
03:43:33.127 --> 03:43:38.196
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Hahanapan ko pa ng isang isla iyan. Ilagay ko sa isang isla na separate branch.

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03:43:38.196 --> 03:43:40.463
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi nagrereklamo sila.

asr-003858
03:43:41.059 --> 03:43:43.803
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nagrereklamo po kasi nilipat sila doon sa Mindoro.

asr-003859
03:43:44.399 --> 03:43:45.254
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, really...

asr-003860
03:43:45.254 --> 03:43:48.037
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: They would want back to New Bilibid Prison.

asr-003861
03:43:48.037 --> 03:43:52.013
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Sa New Bilibid po, medyo mahirap po talagang ma-secure dahil—

asr-003862
03:43:52.709 --> 03:43:58.275
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kaya kailangan po isara na po natin iyang New Bilibid Prison dahil napaka-crowded po talaga.

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03:43:59.548 --> 03:44:00.045
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: At regional na lang.

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03:44:00.840 --> 03:44:01.921
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes.

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03:44:04.000 --> 03:44:05.872
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I have no time anymore.

asr-003866
03:44:05.992 --> 03:44:08.756
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I have questions supposedly to DOJ proper, but I have no time.

asr-003867
03:44:08.825 --> 03:44:10.817
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

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03:44:11.040 --> 03:44:11.404
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Leila.

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03:44:11.404 --> 03:44:11.977
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Maraming salamat po.

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03:44:12.914 --> 03:44:13.781
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line...

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03:44:13.781 --> 03:44:14.649
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line…

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03:44:16.800 --> 03:44:24.790
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Of course, my predecessor, previous sponsor of the DOJ budget, Cong Rufus Rodriguez.

asr-003873
03:44:26.560 --> 03:44:28.096
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

asr-003874
03:44:28.236 --> 03:44:33.404
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Good afternoon to my distinguished colleagues and our valued resource persons this afternoon.

asr-003875
03:44:34.502 --> 03:44:43.740
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I am here because I am here to support the budget of the OSEC and all the departments

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03:44:43.740 --> 03:44:47.411
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and attached agencies of the Department of Justice.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Why?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Why?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I finished my undergraduate studies in De La Salle because I was able to get the salary of my father,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: who was for 20 years provincial fiscal of Misamis Oriental.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And I would go to the, you know, La Salle, and then we go by jeepney to Padre Faura and get it.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So thank you again.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: My life, therefore, has a history of support from the Department of Justice,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and we can never, our family can never forget that.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So first questions will be—these questions are leading questions—

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: To increase the budget of the OSEC.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Mr. Secretary, Frederick Vida.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, sir.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: The OSEC, while it looks like there is an increase,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: however, your MOOE has been reduced from 1.9 to only 1.6,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: so that 203.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: million decrease. What is your wish on this, Mr. Secretary?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, to meet the levels of 2026, to be restored to that level,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that the department would have sufficient resources to fulfill its mandate, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So we will work on that in the BARC, in our Committee of Vice Chairpersons,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and then hopefully in the BICAM.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So restoration of 2.9.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 2.3 for Secretary of Justice Vida.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Is that all?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, Your Honor.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We made mention earlier of the request,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so particularly on the reduction of the NEP 2027

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from the proposed budget for the Office of the Cybercrime,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the NCC-OSAEC and the IACAT.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Those are of particular importance,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: which we do not want to lose the momentum that we have now, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much for the three agencies?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Similarly, Your Honor, to be restored to the levels of 2026.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Which is?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Which is?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Take note, because we're going to work for this.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Forty-five, seventy.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Approximately 130 million, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Only?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: For the three agencies?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, for...

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Please, please note down, because we’re going to make sure that it will be restored.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: To meet the 2026 level.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yes, at least 2026 level.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Anything else, Secretary?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, particular interest would be on the request of the NBI

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on their pursuit and in the particular challenge in addressing cybercrime

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in pursuit of their investigation and their push

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that the requested budget from the DBM be restored on the ICT projects and programs.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Thank you, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yes, good that you've mentioned, because I'm going to go one by one,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: those who were reduced in their 2027 NEP.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And we're going now to NBI, because mentioned already.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Director Melvin Matibag,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: is it correct that your agency,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: the National Bureau of Investigation,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: from 3.791 million,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: it is now only 2.9 billion?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: All right.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It’s a decrease of 882 million, 23.2 percent.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Is that correct?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, sir.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How can they do that to you?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I have no idea.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Just to be clear, I think the reason why is the utilization at that time,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because there are some ICT projects that need to be aligned,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: be completed.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: But right now, we have recognized the reasons for that,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and I think the...

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: The catch-up plan, right?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: That's correct.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So you finish everything by December 31?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: By December, we will have 98 percent utilization.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: The remaining 2 percent will be for the maintenance of the ICT that we will be installing,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which has already been obligated by this time, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very good.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So assuming, because we will assume that you will do it.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You’re a very good director.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So you will be able...

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Can you place here a restoration of 880?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 882 million, correct?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And you're satisfied with that?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Well, I have a specific request, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Say that now.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It will not be counted against my time.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Our agents right now is getting a hazard pay of only 4,000 pesos monthly.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So we are requesting at least we can be leveled with the other law enforcements,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which is probably the reasonable amount will be 15,000 monthly for them to operate properly,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: our agents has been transferred from one province to another,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and they’ve been operating 24/7, like the concern on the issue of OSAEC.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Records will reveal that we have so many operations and apprehensions on OSAEC

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and other crimes, cyber crimes also, which we've been addressing.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So I'm respectfully requesting that the hazard pay of our agents from 4,000 be increased to 15,000 at least.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 15,000?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Approved.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: From me, from me.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Work for that.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Salamat po.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: The NBI director is my good, you know, our cherished faculty member.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I was dean of San Sebastian College of Law, and I personally requested President Rueda to teach,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and he was there for quite some time with me.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And so now to Chief Rueda-Acosta, what do you need?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I think it will be about the opening of more, you know,

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: PAO.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PAO lawyers because of the ratio of courts vis-a-vis the PAO attorneys.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We need 559 lawyers, Your Honor.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We are amenable to half the number.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is 500?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, 500.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is that?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: One billion, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You just know it.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Because of the high salary.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We are amenable to half.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is one half?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Half, only, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Maybe 225 new lawyers.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: But give us 400 staff.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have no staff.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: There is no creation of staff position.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much will be the total of that?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Meaning both the PAO lawyers and the staff?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 200 lawyers, maybe, and 400 staff.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That may be around 600 million.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Reasonable?

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Around 700 million.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Oh, reasonable also.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So 700.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 700 million.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: We try to have that.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because the Department of Justice and our PAO should support it.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Thank you, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Remember, I worked hard for this last year.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: They knew.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: But fortunately, there was no...

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: There is continuous creation of courts, branches of courts.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That's correct.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That's correct.

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PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: So we need fiscals and PAO lawyers at the same time, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And then, of course, my favorite, Commissioner of the Bureau of Immigration, where I was once

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: one of the Bureau.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Commissioner, I understand here in your office, the BI has been greatly reduced by

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 1.6 billion.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How is that, Commissioner Viado, with your very outstanding performance there?

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You're doing so well.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Why are they reducing that?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I don't know the reason why, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But thank you very much for the endorsement.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we will increase the additional budget.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yeah.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What will be the more important priority budget you would request from the committee?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: First and foremost, we would like to inform the committee and, of course, the honorable

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Representative, Congressman Rodriguez, that we already moved to our new building, Your

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So we would...

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we would need the budget for capital outlay for the post-construction of the new BI building.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It was removed, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is that?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: In the amount of 276,280,000, Your Honor.

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Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

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03:53:34.022 --> 03:53:35.013
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What else?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we would also like to ask for the capital outlay for the locally funded projects for

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the development, enhancement, and procurement of IT systems and infrastructures, not only

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: within the main building, the new BI building, but also our support offices, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So the amount is...

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Total is 1,200,527,811, Your Honor.

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03:53:58.810 --> 03:53:59.801
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

asr-004058
03:53:59.801 --> 03:54:00.793
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 527,811, Your Honor.

asr-004059
03:54:00.793 --> 03:54:01.784
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Of that for you to be able to perform.

asr-004060
03:54:01.784 --> 03:54:02.776
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004061
03:54:02.776 --> 03:54:03.767
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And I was in your new building with Secretary Rimulya at the time.

asr-004062
03:54:03.767 --> 03:54:04.759
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004063
03:54:04.759 --> 03:54:05.751
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And it’s a very good building right there on Macapagal Avenue.

asr-004064
03:54:05.751 --> 03:54:06.742
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004065
03:54:06.742 --> 03:54:07.734
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

asr-004066
03:54:07.734 --> 03:54:08.725
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Anything else?

asr-004067
03:54:08.725 --> 03:54:09.717
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's all, Your Honor.

asr-004068
03:54:09.717 --> 03:54:10.708
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much.

asr-004069
03:54:10.708 --> 03:54:11.700
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you very much.

asr-004070
03:54:11.700 --> 03:54:12.691
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

asr-004071
03:54:12.691 --> 03:54:13.683
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: We will work on this.

asr-004072
03:54:13.683 --> 03:54:14.674
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

asr-004073
03:54:14.674 --> 03:54:15.666
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And then next, we will have the OSG.

asr-004074
03:54:15.666 --> 03:54:16.657
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Solicitor General Darlene Marie Berberabe is here.

asr-004075
03:54:16.657 --> 03:54:17.649
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004089
03:54:31.530 --> 03:54:32.531
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You have an increase, but do you need more?

asr-004090
03:54:32.531 --> 03:54:33.531
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004091
03:54:33.531 --> 03:54:47.740
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: The increase of 248 million, I think 255 will go to the first-year installment for the building

asr-004092
03:54:47.740 --> 03:54:58.227
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: that OSG will procure through the GSIS lease-to-own financing framework.

asr-004093
03:54:58.227 --> 03:54:59.228
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So . . .

asr-004094
03:54:59.228 --> 03:55:03.230
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Iyon po iyong nasa ISSP, 123 million.

asr-004095
03:55:03.830 --> 03:55:07.873
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is the entire building? Because the Ombudsman is buying, GSIS also.

asr-004096
03:55:08.113 --> 03:55:14.237
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yung sa OSG po, total of 4.5 billion pesos for the whole OSG,

asr-004097
03:55:15.118 --> 03:55:17.879
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: and may balik din po naman sa government,

asr-004098
03:55:18.039 --> 03:55:22.482
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sapagkat ibebenta po yung OSG main building now sa Amor Solo Street,

asr-004099
03:55:22.622 --> 03:55:23.723
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: so babalik po yun.

asr-004100
03:55:24.043 --> 03:55:27.966
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So around maybe 800 million to 1 billion pesos din po yun.

asr-004101
03:55:27.966 --> 03:55:31.908
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: And then, ang hiningi lang po namin ay dahil through the MYCA,

asr-004102
03:55:32.469 --> 03:55:38.933
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: so 255 million will go to the first year installment to be paid to GSIS.

asr-004103
03:55:39.053 --> 03:55:39.913
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 250 million?

asr-004104
03:55:40.994 --> 03:55:41.714
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: First year?

asr-004105
03:55:42.035 --> 03:55:44.356
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: First year. So iyon po iyong nakalagay sa NEP.

asr-004106
03:55:44.736 --> 03:55:47.538
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Has the DBM approved your MYCA proposal?

asr-004107
03:55:47.718 --> 03:55:52.441
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because if it is there, every year we'll be able to put a budget.

asr-004108
03:55:52.441 --> 03:55:57.805
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes, ang nailagay po ng DBM dahil ang timeline po namin,

asr-004109
03:55:57.985 --> 03:56:02.868
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: six months pa to kung makonfirm, then mafifit out po yung building.

asr-004110
03:56:03.128 --> 03:56:04.669
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So half year lang po.

asr-004111
03:56:05.790 --> 03:56:12.734
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Ang nawala po yung sa computerization, sa digital transformation program po yung 100 million.

asr-004112
03:56:12.734 --> 03:56:14.235
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very important. How much is that?

asr-004113
03:56:14.875 --> 03:56:16.256
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 123 million po.

asr-004114
03:56:16.757 --> 03:56:18.738
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Computerization, we need that very much.

asr-004115
03:56:18.758 --> 03:56:19.058
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes.

asr-004116
03:56:19.298 --> 03:56:22.220
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Plus the building, 250 for the year, next year.

asr-004117
03:56:22.220 --> 03:56:25.202
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Iyong pong building, nandoon na po iyon sa NEP.

asr-004118
03:56:25.582 --> 03:56:27.223
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So ang medyo inihihirit po yung...

asr-004119
03:56:28.004 --> 03:56:31.546
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na-exclude po, gawa ng isiningit po yung sa building.

asr-004120
03:56:31.686 --> 03:56:34.608
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay. Digitalization is very important.

asr-004121
03:56:34.768 --> 03:56:35.088
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you.

asr-004122
03:56:35.448 --> 03:56:36.649
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So anything else?

asr-004123
03:56:37.610 --> 03:56:43.553
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Our solicitor general, who is doing a very good job in the Supreme Court of the Republic of the Philippines.

asr-004124
03:56:44.114 --> 03:56:45.335
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you. Thank you po.

asr-004125
03:56:45.335 --> 03:56:51.939
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Na-iraos na po natin ang GAA oral argument sa Supreme Court.

asr-004126
03:56:52.019 --> 03:56:53.720
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you, Congressman Rufus.

asr-004127
03:56:53.900 --> 03:56:57.781
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And we have the office of the ADR reduced also.

asr-004128
03:56:58.022 --> 03:57:01.963
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very small part, reduced pa. Where is the OADR head?

asr-004129
03:57:02.723 --> 03:57:05.244
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Here, sir. Good afternoon, sir.

asr-004130
03:57:06.265 --> 03:57:06.725
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Here.

asr-004131
03:57:07.625 --> 03:57:08.245
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yes, sir.

asr-004132
03:57:08.805 --> 03:57:11.967
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It was reduced by 26 million.

asr-004133
03:57:12.547 --> 03:57:13.167
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: That's right.

asr-004134
03:57:14.748 --> 03:57:15.908
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What is your wish?

asr-004135
03:57:16.088 --> 03:57:24.351
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Well, you are like some other official saying, I just scolded the CDA representative in that hearing just recently

asr-004136
03:57:24.351 --> 03:57:27.913
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: with the Department of Industry.

asr-004137
03:57:28.033 --> 03:57:32.714
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because he said, he said, this budget will do.

asr-004138
03:57:32.854 --> 03:57:33.735
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Can you imagine that?

asr-004139
03:57:35.475 --> 03:57:37.296
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: He will agree to the small budget.

asr-004140
03:57:37.836 --> 03:57:41.718
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: He will never say that in a budget hearing that we will make do with the budget.

asr-004141
03:57:42.198 --> 03:57:46.579
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You fight always so that you will have an increase in your budget.

asr-004142
03:57:46.739 --> 03:57:47.420
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What do you say?

asr-004143
03:57:48.300 --> 03:57:49.540
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: That's correct, Your Honor.

asr-004144
03:57:49.540 --> 03:57:50.021
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: Rufus.

asr-004145
03:57:50.021 --> 03:57:58.004
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: We would like to propose restoring it to the original 168 million for 2027.

asr-004146
03:57:58.044 --> 03:58:03.506
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So we restore 26 million, correct?

asr-004147
03:58:04.206 --> 03:58:04.666
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: That's right.

asr-004148
03:58:04.666 --> 03:58:05.366
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: OADR, right?

asr-004149
03:58:05.506 --> 03:58:05.826
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: That's right.

asr-004150
03:58:06.407 --> 03:58:08.988
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Oh, OGCC also reduced.

asr-004151
03:58:09.748 --> 03:58:11.489
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Please say your piece.

asr-004152
03:58:15.900 --> 03:58:23.723
Office of the Government Corporate Counsel representative: Mr. Chairman, we will defer to the judgment of the DBM, Your Honor.

asr-004153
03:58:23.743 --> 03:58:25.204
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You never defer to the judgment.

asr-004154
03:58:25.364 --> 03:58:26.384
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: They always lower everything.

asr-004155
03:58:27.945 --> 03:58:29.665
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Anyway, Mr. Chairman.

asr-004156
03:58:29.685 --> 03:58:40.069
Office of the Government Corporate Counsel representative: Mr. Chairman, we have an optimization plan that we presented to the DBM and we hope they will...

asr-004157
03:58:40.069 --> 03:58:42.710
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So, we will work also for you.

asr-004158
03:58:43.290 --> 03:58:50.773
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And then, my second-to-the-last question is the Parole and Probation Administration.

asr-004159
03:58:50.873 --> 03:58:51.433
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: My goodness.

asr-004160
03:58:52.194 --> 03:58:53.154
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Your budget is small.

asr-004161
03:58:53.854 --> 03:58:57.075
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Reduced by 49 million.

asr-004162
03:58:57.195 --> 03:58:57.916
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What can you say?

asr-004163
03:58:58.396 --> 03:58:59.656
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Administrator Benitez,

asr-004164
03:58:59.696 --> 03:59:00.176
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Where are you?

asr-004165
03:59:05.098 --> 03:59:05.458
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ah, yes.

asr-004166
03:59:07.099 --> 03:59:07.939
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: For...

asr-004167
03:59:07.939 --> 03:59:08.580
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bukor.

asr-004168
03:59:08.780 --> 03:59:09.260
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ah, Bukor.

asr-004169
03:59:09.400 --> 03:59:10.640
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bukor, let me see.

asr-004170
03:59:12.841 --> 03:59:14.242
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Ah, you were increased.

asr-004171
03:59:14.942 --> 03:59:17.323
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So, are you thanking the DBM for that?

asr-004172
03:59:17.863 --> 03:59:23.405
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: We are requesting more for next year.

asr-004173
03:59:23.525 --> 03:59:27.106
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: But hopefully, this budget will not anymore be touched.

asr-004174
03:59:27.807 --> 03:59:30.148
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It will never be reduced, but it will be increased.

asr-004175
03:59:30.648 --> 03:59:32.168
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

asr-004176
03:59:32.168 --> 03:59:32.969
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How about the...

asr-004177
03:59:33.809 --> 03:59:34.909
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Administrator Benitez.

asr-004178
03:59:35.910 --> 03:59:36.850
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Ah, you are Administrator Benitez.

asr-004179
03:59:36.850 --> 03:59:37.785
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, sir.

asr-004180
03:59:37.785 --> 03:59:39.676
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How about the Parole and Probation Administration?

asr-004181
03:59:39.676 --> 03:59:40.671
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Your Honor.

asr-004182
03:59:40.671 --> 03:59:41.667
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Sino?

asr-004183
03:59:41.667 --> 03:59:42.841
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Parole Probation?

asr-004184
03:59:42.841 --> 03:59:43.836
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yeah.

asr-004185
03:59:43.836 --> 03:59:45.249
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You are General?

asr-004186
03:59:45.249 --> 03:59:46.662
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Bienvenido, sir.

asr-004187
03:59:47.100 --> 03:59:47.500
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Yes, sir.

asr-004188
03:59:48.120 --> 03:59:50.280
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I have a wrong addressee.

asr-004189
03:59:50.940 --> 03:59:53.500
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I have some letter for you.

asr-004190
03:59:54.200 --> 04:00:00.080
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So the parole probation, again, was reduced by 49 million.

asr-004191
04:00:00.840 --> 04:00:01.300
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004192
04:00:01.300 --> 04:00:03.260
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So what are the important items to be restored?

asr-004193
04:00:04.840 --> 04:00:08.880
Parole and Probation Administration representative: In our case, we were reduced by 49 million,

asr-004194
04:00:08.880 --> 04:00:14.160
Parole and Probation Administration representative: pero po kasi intact na po kami sa ISSP computerization namin.

asr-004195
04:00:14.160 --> 04:00:20.080
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Ang wish list po namin ay para sa probation officers’ ladderized

asr-004196
04:00:20.320 --> 04:00:26.160
Parole and Probation Administration representative: three-year improvement program for their major competencies po.

asr-004197
04:00:26.420 --> 04:00:34.080
Parole and Probation Administration representative: This is about 8,198,000 for a three-year period.

asr-004198
04:00:36.100 --> 04:00:37.860
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Eight million?

asr-004199
04:00:38.100 --> 04:00:39.180
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So not billion?

asr-004200
04:00:39.700 --> 04:00:40.600
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very small?

asr-004201
04:00:41.120 --> 04:00:41.540
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Yes, sir.

asr-004202
04:00:41.540 --> 04:00:42.440
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Eight million.

asr-004203
04:00:42.660 --> 04:00:43.880
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So we'll try to work on that.

asr-004204
04:00:44.160 --> 04:00:45.440
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Any other agency not called?

asr-004205
04:00:45.540 --> 04:00:47.540
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because I think I called everybody already.

asr-004206
04:00:51.340 --> 04:00:52.900
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I'll just, okay.

asr-004207
04:00:53.520 --> 04:00:54.920
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Lahat naman yata nakuha na, no?

asr-004208
04:00:55.820 --> 04:00:57.420
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: PCGG, yes?

asr-004209
04:00:57.960 --> 04:00:58.480
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: PCGG.

asr-004210
04:00:59.040 --> 04:00:59.300
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yeah.

asr-004211
04:01:00.060 --> 04:01:01.600
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Well, you have an increase here.

asr-004212
04:01:02.120 --> 04:01:03.740
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: But what is the wish of PCGG?

asr-004213
04:01:03.740 --> 04:01:13.820
PCGG Chairperson: Ang wish po namin, eto talagang wish po, is more institutional rather than budgetary.

asr-004214
04:01:14.380 --> 04:01:14.800
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

asr-004215
04:01:14.800 --> 04:01:14.860
PCGG Chairperson: Okay.

asr-004216
04:01:15.440 --> 04:01:22.960
PCGG Chairperson: So our wish is that the mandate of the PCGG will be expanded, but this requires a law po kasi.

asr-004217
04:01:22.960 --> 04:01:27.400
PCGG Chairperson: Because presently po, our mandate is limited.

asr-004218
04:01:28.080 --> 04:01:31.640
PCGG Chairperson: It's limited to a few individuals only.

asr-004219
04:01:32.620 --> 04:01:41.840
PCGG Chairperson: And so we would like to expand sana yung mandate ng PCGG to include all public officials.

asr-004220
04:01:43.600 --> 04:01:44.980
PCGG Chairperson: Right now po,

asr-004221
04:01:45.440 --> 04:01:49.780
PCGG Chairperson: Mandate namin is to file civil forfeiture cases.

asr-004222
04:01:50.360 --> 04:01:58.680
PCGG Chairperson: So as far as corruption is concerned, that is the template that has been used by the PCGG for the past 40 years.

asr-004223
04:01:58.680 --> 04:02:05.020
PCGG Chairperson: And we were able to recover more than 300 billion only through civil forfeiture.

asr-004224
04:02:05.700 --> 04:02:10.340
PCGG Chairperson: Wala po kaming naipakulong, pero we were able to recover that much.

asr-004225
04:02:10.900 --> 04:02:14.360
PCGG Chairperson: And so gusto po sana namin ma-expand yung mandate.

asr-004226
04:02:14.360 --> 04:02:19.000
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Perhaps we can now give way to a new mandate.

asr-004227
04:02:19.280 --> 04:02:21.400
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I understand there's already a bill for that.

asr-004228
04:02:21.660 --> 04:02:22.140
PCGG Chairperson: Yes po.

asr-004229
04:02:22.320 --> 04:02:23.660
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I will be a co-author.

asr-004230
04:02:24.420 --> 04:02:24.820
PCGG Chairperson: Yes po.

asr-004231
04:02:24.820 --> 04:02:30.380
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: For that, so that you will be able to expand your powers.

asr-004232
04:02:30.660 --> 04:02:34.800
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: With that, Mr. Chairman, I thank you for being lenient with me.

asr-004233
04:02:34.800 --> 04:02:40.720
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I congratulate Secretary Vida for an outstanding performance as Secretary of Justice.

asr-004234
04:02:41.360 --> 04:02:43.720
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And all of our attached agencies.

asr-004235
04:02:43.720 --> 04:02:46.580
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Again, you have our support here in Congress.

asr-004236
04:02:46.580 --> 04:02:54.120
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: For after all, justice is an important component of a democracy and development of our nation.

asr-004237
04:02:54.420 --> 04:02:57.620
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for your leniency in my time.

asr-004238
04:02:57.700 --> 04:02:58.000
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

asr-004239
04:02:58.319 --> 04:02:59.349
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Kong Rufus.

asr-004240
04:02:59.359 --> 04:03:10.750
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you for emphasizing the needs of the DOJ and its attached agencies

asr-004241
04:03:10.760 --> 04:03:16.870
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po mas maganda pa po yung operations na magawa po nila.

asr-004242
04:03:16.880 --> 04:03:17.910
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the minority.

asr-004243
04:03:17.920 --> 04:03:22.990
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Egay Erice.

asr-004244
04:03:23.000 --> 04:03:24.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

asr-004245
04:03:24.439 --> 04:03:29.510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Good afternoon, Secretary Vida and the DOJ family.

asr-004246
04:03:29.520 --> 04:03:36.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: We in the minority strongly supports the promises of Congressman Rufus.

asr-004247
04:03:36.199 --> 04:03:46.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And I think we can assure fiscal space by reducing the appropriations of the House of Representatives.

asr-004248
04:03:46.479 --> 04:03:54.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Anyway.

asr-004256
04:03:54.560 --> 04:03:58.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang first question ko po, Secretary, para po sa ating immigration.

asr-004257
04:03:58.560 --> 04:04:04.030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And this is about the CAIS, the Civil Aviation Immigration Security Services Project.

asr-004258
04:04:04.040 --> 04:04:04.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, Your Honor.

asr-004259
04:04:04.920 --> 04:04:10.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I would like to maybe appraise of what's the status of the project na.

asr-004260
04:04:10.640 --> 04:04:14.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The current status, Your Honor, po, it is under contract review.

asr-004261
04:04:14.680 --> 04:04:22.950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And the final screening will be made by the Department of Finance, the OSG, and the PPP Center, po, Your Honor.

asr-004262
04:04:22.960 --> 04:04:24.710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But the contract was already signed?

asr-004263
04:04:24.720 --> 04:04:28.189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No contract has been signed, Your Honor.

asr-004264
04:04:28.199 --> 04:04:38.710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So can you just brief us on what's in particular is the contract?

asr-004265
04:04:38.720 --> 04:04:45.670
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: This is a build, train, maintain, transfer modality?

asr-004266
04:04:45.680 --> 04:04:47.389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor.

asr-004267
04:04:47.399 --> 04:04:52.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Build, train, maintain, and transfer modality, it is a public-private partnership proposed

asr-004268
04:04:52.640 --> 04:04:58.950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: by SIGRIPORT and delivers an integrated aviation and border security platform.

asr-004269
04:04:58.960 --> 04:05:02.309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Combining biometrics, merong advanced analytics.

asr-004270
04:05:02.319 --> 04:05:08.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: When you say, Your Honor, advanced analytics, kahit po yung behavior ng isang tao at the

asr-004271
04:05:08.239 --> 04:05:17.550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: point wherein kinukuha yung information regarding him, any nervous stick, any facial contortion

asr-004272
04:05:17.560 --> 04:05:24.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: can be read by the system to determine kung high risk po siya at malaking probability

asr-004273
04:05:24.600 --> 04:05:28.950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that he will cause havoc when entering the Philippines.

asr-004274
04:05:28.960 --> 04:05:36.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And it also integrates passenger information systems with the ultimate objective of enhancing

asr-004275
04:05:36.439 --> 04:05:38.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: national security and immigration control.

asr-004276
04:05:39.000 --> 04:05:47.070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The features of this program include access to billions of facial images.

asr-004277
04:05:47.080 --> 04:05:53.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung categorization po and then risk scoring, meaning kaya po na nabanggit ko kanina, kung

asr-004278
04:05:54.000 --> 04:06:00.389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: high risk po yung pasahero na lagi intend na pumasok ng Pilipinas, then ma-analyze po

asr-004279
04:06:00.399 --> 04:06:05.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: at mabibigyan po ng proper tool ang aming immigration officer to decide whether or not

asr-004280
04:06:05.920 --> 04:06:08.110
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to allow this person to enter.

asr-004281
04:06:08.120 --> 04:06:13.870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong biographic comparison against criminal and sanctions databases, meaning

asr-004282
04:06:13.880 --> 04:06:17.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang interpol po, may access po tayo dyan sa kanilang...

asr-004283
04:06:17.239 --> 04:06:24.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: system, not only sa Central, but all 194 countries sa konektado po sa Interpol.

asr-004284
04:06:24.680 --> 04:06:32.149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong deception detection analytics based on mga nabanggit ko po, involuntary

asr-004285
04:06:32.159 --> 04:06:33.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and physical cues.

asr-004286
04:06:34.000 --> 04:06:41.110
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And nandyan din po ang AI-assisted open source intelligence, meaning kung nagkataon po na

asr-004287
04:06:41.120 --> 04:06:47.070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: let's say 15, 20 years ago, on Facebook, meron po kayong nasabi, which would

asr-004288
04:06:47.080 --> 04:06:54.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: be the system would read as amounting to or gearing towards terrorism.

asr-004289
04:06:54.239 --> 04:06:56.349
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Mababasa rin po yan, Your Honor.

asr-004290
04:06:56.359 --> 04:07:04.750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang target po nito, Your Honor, is to increase, expand the borders, meaning hindi na lang po

asr-004291
04:07:04.760 --> 04:07:09.030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: border natin o physical border po ng Pilipinas ang babantayan.

asr-004292
04:07:09.040 --> 04:07:11.110
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Na-expand po natin yan pagating sa ibang bansa.

asr-004293
04:07:11.120 --> 04:07:17.550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po, kung ang isang pasahero nagsusubok pumunta ng Pilipinas, based po sa...

asr-004294
04:07:17.560 --> 04:07:23.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pagkuhan niya ng ticket, pagkuhan niya ng kanyang passenger reference number, mariread

asr-004295
04:07:23.800 --> 04:07:32.870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po ito, and then even before boarding ng aeroplano, kung sa tingin po ng sistema na hindi po siya

asr-004296
04:07:32.880 --> 04:07:39.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: dapat sumakay o pumasok ng Pilipinas, ibabato po yung information na po na yun in real time

asr-004297
04:07:39.640 --> 04:07:43.109
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa immigration officers po natin dito sa Pilipinas.

asr-004298
04:07:43.119 --> 04:07:45.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, that would also...

asr-004299
04:07:46.000 --> 04:07:51.550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: down to the benefit of the airlines, kasi hindi na po sila gagastos para pabalikin pa po ang isang tao

asr-004300
04:07:51.560 --> 04:07:54.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na hindi naman po pa papasukin dito sa ating bansa.

asr-004301
04:07:54.439 --> 04:07:56.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, yan po ang features po.

asr-004302
04:07:56.800 --> 04:08:03.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And then, Your Honor, we also have to take into account that the system being resorted to,

asr-004303
04:08:03.800 --> 04:08:13.710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: or systems being resorted to, schemes, if I may call it that, resorted to by terrorists, criminals, are ever evolving.

asr-004304
04:08:13.720 --> 04:08:14.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, itong sistema po na ito...

asr-004305
04:08:15.000 --> 04:08:23.950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: aims to combat, or help, or be a tool to help our immigration officers in combating human trafficking,

asr-004306
04:08:23.960 --> 04:08:30.830
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: smuggling, drug and weapon smuggling, terrorism, money laundering, tax evasion, and organized crime.

asr-004307
04:08:30.840 --> 04:08:32.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po. Yan po yung sistema, Your Honor.

asr-004308
04:08:32.920 --> 04:08:36.750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano na-propose po yung Secure Reports Limited?

asr-004309
04:08:36.760 --> 04:08:38.309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor. Secure Reports Limited.

asr-004310
04:08:38.319 --> 04:08:40.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sino pong mayari nito? Porin or Pilipino?

asr-004311
04:08:41.000 --> 04:08:45.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ano po? Ang Secure Report po is a company incorporated in the United States.

asr-004312
04:08:45.239 --> 04:08:50.510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's way back in 2000. Hindi po Philippine Corporation po yan.

asr-004313
04:08:50.520 --> 04:08:53.149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They gave an unsolicited proposal.

asr-004314
04:08:53.159 --> 04:09:01.269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Two years in the making na po, Your Honor, ang pag-review po ng iba't-iba ahensya ng gobyerno dito sa proposal po nila.

asr-004315
04:09:01.279 --> 04:09:10.510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It went through the PPP Center, it went to the DOJ, it went through the Bureau of Immigration.

asr-004316
04:09:10.520 --> 04:09:12.149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, dalawang taon na po, Your Honor, na...

asr-004317
04:09:12.159 --> 04:09:14.070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, but...

asr-004318
04:09:14.080 --> 04:09:15.309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Do you mean that...

asr-004319
04:09:15.319 --> 04:09:20.590
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Your Honor, a sovereign company will have an access to the data of...

asr-004320
04:09:20.600 --> 04:09:27.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, a sovereign function at control po dito sa datos po na ito is retained by the Philippine government.

asr-004321
04:09:27.920 --> 04:09:31.510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But how about the servers?

asr-004322
04:09:31.520 --> 04:09:33.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tayo po may control dyan, Your Honor.

asr-004323
04:09:33.600 --> 04:09:37.710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They only provide the tools and teach our people how to operate those.

asr-004324
04:09:37.720 --> 04:09:40.189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But ultimately, ang control po...

asr-004325
04:09:40.199 --> 04:09:44.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Initially, they will be accessing these datas.

asr-004326
04:09:44.159 --> 04:09:45.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

asr-004327
04:09:45.239 --> 04:09:47.269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will help us provide...

asr-004328
04:09:47.279 --> 04:09:48.149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will help provide the tools...

asr-004329
04:09:48.159 --> 04:09:49.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Initially.

asr-004330
04:09:49.439 --> 04:09:52.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes or no?

asr-004331
04:09:52.199 --> 04:09:55.510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as I know, Your Honor, no.

asr-004332
04:09:55.520 --> 04:09:58.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will not have control over the data.

asr-004333
04:09:58.439 --> 04:09:59.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will have no control...

asr-004334
04:09:59.239 --> 04:10:01.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will have no control over the data, Your Honor.

asr-004335
04:10:01.680 --> 04:10:01.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Okay.

asr-004336
04:10:02.000 --> 04:10:02.870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Control is maintained by us.

asr-004337
04:10:02.880 --> 04:10:08.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Because I filed a resolution to investigate this particular contract.

asr-004338
04:10:08.439 --> 04:10:08.710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004339
04:10:08.720 --> 04:10:09.510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Aside from the...

asr-004340
04:10:09.520 --> 04:10:10.269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

asr-004341
04:10:10.279 --> 04:10:11.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Aside from the...

asr-004342
04:10:11.840 --> 04:10:16.229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi po, diba, yung tinanggal nga ng gobyerno, yung tinatanggal ngayon ng gobyerno, yung...

asr-004343
04:10:16.239 --> 04:10:16.510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004344
04:10:16.520 --> 04:10:16.870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004345
04:10:16.880 --> 04:10:29.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, parang ano, parang yung policy decision ng presidente ay tanggalan ng bawasan yung gastos ng mga pasahero.

asr-004346
04:10:29.840 --> 04:10:31.109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pero ito dadagdagan.

asr-004347
04:10:31.119 --> 04:10:31.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Opo, Your Honor.

asr-004348
04:10:31.640 --> 04:10:34.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, ito po kasi, hindi po ito form ng tax, Your Honor.

asr-004349
04:10:34.600 --> 04:10:36.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po ay service fee.

asr-004350
04:10:36.600 --> 04:10:37.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, hindi naman...

asr-004351
04:10:37.800 --> 04:10:39.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes, but that's the function of government.

asr-004352
04:10:39.640 --> 04:10:44.910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: That's why we are collecting taxes, diba, from our people to provide services.

asr-004353
04:10:44.920 --> 04:10:46.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And that's...

asr-004354
04:10:46.640 --> 04:10:48.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Immigration service yan, yung...

asr-004355
04:10:48.640 --> 04:10:50.030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor, we...

asr-004356
04:10:50.040 --> 04:10:51.229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Cyber security.

asr-004357
04:10:51.239 --> 04:10:51.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po.

asr-004358
04:10:51.439 --> 04:10:57.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, ang concern ko po dito, parang magkakontra yung policy.

asr-004359
04:10:57.640 --> 04:11:04.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: In fact, dito po sa travel tax, exempted na yung mga OFWs.

asr-004360
04:11:04.840 --> 04:11:07.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pero dito, kasama.

asr-004361
04:11:07.159 --> 04:11:14.349
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, yung mga OFWs natin na nagdadala ng dolyar dito sa ating bansa, dadagdagan pa natin ng gastos.

asr-004362
04:11:14.359 --> 04:11:21.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Samantalang, yung revenue na nare-raise natin sa kanila, eh, pwede nating gastosin for this purpose.

asr-004363
04:11:21.560 --> 04:11:25.149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We understand, Your Honor, and we fully agree po with your position.

asr-004364
04:11:25.159 --> 04:11:27.070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As I've stated, this is a secure...

asr-004365
04:11:27.080 --> 04:11:27.469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ano po?

asr-004366
04:11:27.479 --> 04:11:29.469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Service fee po ito, Your Honor.

asr-004367
04:11:29.479 --> 04:11:37.030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meaning, hindi po namin pwede ipasa sa madlang bayan, taong bayan, sa ordinary taxpayer po, ang pag-gastos po dito.

asr-004368
04:11:37.040 --> 04:11:40.389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang gagastos po dito ay ang mga taong nagka-travel.

asr-004369
04:11:40.399 --> 04:11:40.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po lahat ng...

asr-004370
04:11:40.800 --> 04:11:42.389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pag-Ws.

asr-004371
04:11:42.399 --> 04:11:44.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, admittedly po, sa kanila po, ang mga...

asr-004372
04:11:44.439 --> 04:11:46.510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang mga pung-ticket, isasama po ang gastosin dito.

asr-004373
04:11:46.520 --> 04:11:47.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaya nga, kaya nga.

asr-004374
04:11:47.840 --> 04:11:49.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, but if I may continue, Your Honor.

asr-004375
04:11:49.640 --> 04:11:55.550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, ang gastosin po pagdating sa ticket, hindi po sinasagot po yan ng OFWs.

asr-004376
04:11:55.560 --> 04:11:57.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sagot po yan ng mga employers nila.

asr-004377
04:11:57.680 --> 04:12:04.109
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang employers po, under an executive order, and under various agreements with other countries,

asr-004378
04:12:04.119 --> 04:12:11.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang sumasagot po yan ng gastosin po sa pamasahe, at including na po, kung sakali ma-approvean po ito,

asr-004379
04:12:11.920 --> 04:12:14.309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung service fee po na ito, ay sasagotin ng...

asr-004380
04:12:14.319 --> 04:12:22.070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So hindi OFWs po natin ang sasagot.

asr-004381
04:12:22.080 --> 04:12:25.309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po yung mga kumpanyang kukuha po sa kanila ang sasagot dito.

asr-004382
04:12:25.319 --> 04:12:31.030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And if I may, Your Honor, ito pong sistema po na ito, ginagamit na po yan worldwide.

asr-004383
04:12:31.040 --> 04:12:37.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi lang po natin siguro napapansin, pero ang ibang bansa po, nilalagay po yan, nakasama ng gastosin sa mga ticket po.

asr-004384
04:12:37.239 --> 04:12:42.950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As I've stated earlier, Your Honor, ang Australia po, charges about 2,600...

asr-004385
04:12:42.960 --> 04:12:44.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sir, you said Hong Kong is doing this.

asr-004386
04:12:44.439 --> 04:12:45.750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004387
04:12:45.760 --> 04:12:51.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I've been traveling to Hong Kong for quite some time, pero wala akong nakikita ng gano'n.

asr-004388
04:12:51.199 --> 04:12:54.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Baka po sa breakdown, makikita po natin, Your Honor.

asr-004389
04:12:54.600 --> 04:13:05.030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po, Hong Kong charges 1,800, Japan charges 1,200, Singapore charges 2,400, Australia charges 2,600.

asr-004390
04:13:05.040 --> 04:13:10.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We charge 240 pesos. So ganyan po yung comparison po, Your Honor.

asr-004391
04:13:10.640 --> 04:13:15.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: The total project cost is 10,740,000.

asr-004392
04:13:15.479 --> 04:13:19.389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, for the first five years po yan, 10.7 billion, Your Honor.

asr-004393
04:13:19.399 --> 04:13:26.269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But ang security report po promised a technology maintenance upgrade po.

asr-004394
04:13:26.279 --> 04:13:33.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Upgrade not only of the systems, but also of the training for people every four years over the 20-year period.

asr-004395
04:13:33.640 --> 04:13:34.710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasama po dito sa 10 billion?

asr-004396
04:13:34.720 --> 04:13:35.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po, Your Honor.

asr-004397
04:13:35.680 --> 04:13:37.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So another increase?

asr-004398
04:13:37.159 --> 04:13:38.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po, Your Honor.

asr-004399
04:13:38.439 --> 04:13:44.750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang commitment po nila is during the lifetime of the...

asr-004400
04:13:44.760 --> 04:13:51.189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The agreement sa 20 years po na yan, ganyan lang po naka napag-usapan po namin na charges nila.

asr-004401
04:13:51.199 --> 04:13:53.389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ang capex nila for the whole project?

asr-004402
04:13:53.399 --> 04:14:02.870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the whole project po, over the 20-year period, so 10.7 initially, additional, I think, 52.5 billion over the 20-year period po.

asr-004403
04:14:02.880 --> 04:14:03.590
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So 62 point...

asr-004404
04:14:03.600 --> 04:14:07.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: It is in the proposed contract?

asr-004405
04:14:07.479 --> 04:14:14.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is. Everything is under the proposed contract and under review by all pertinent government agencies.

asr-004406
04:14:14.239 --> 04:14:21.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: The total estimated collection is about 202 billion.

asr-004407
04:14:21.199 --> 04:14:22.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Probably, Your Honor.

asr-004408
04:14:22.439 --> 04:14:25.950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And the share of the private corporation is 192 billion.

asr-004409
04:14:25.960 --> 04:14:34.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang breakdown po, if I may, Your Honor, is per kada apat na dolyar po, 380 goes to the proponent, 20 cents goes to the Philippine government.

asr-004410
04:14:34.920 --> 04:14:35.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 5%.

asr-004411
04:14:35.479 --> 04:14:38.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 5% share.

asr-004412
04:14:38.199 --> 04:14:38.870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

asr-004413
04:14:38.880 --> 04:14:40.670
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So this is about 10 billion.

asr-004414
04:14:40.680 --> 04:14:41.269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tama po, 5%.

asr-004415
04:14:41.279 --> 04:14:44.269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 95% of the collections will go to the private.

asr-004416
04:14:44.279 --> 04:14:45.710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: A provider.

asr-004417
04:14:45.720 --> 04:14:46.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

asr-004418
04:14:46.439 --> 04:14:49.229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And only 5%.

asr-004419
04:14:49.239 --> 04:14:50.269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: To the government.

asr-004420
04:14:50.279 --> 04:14:54.030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sir, why are you still giving this to the government?

asr-004421
04:14:54.040 --> 04:14:54.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sorry, sir.

asr-004422
04:14:54.239 --> 04:14:55.189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sorry, Your Honor.

asr-004423
04:14:55.199 --> 04:14:57.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: This is your service, immigration, to our people.

asr-004424
04:14:57.560 --> 04:14:58.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Why are you still giving this to the government?

asr-004425
04:14:58.840 --> 04:15:04.349
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It will fund the projects of the Bureau of Immigration.

asr-004426
04:15:04.359 --> 04:15:06.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And yes, sir.

asr-004427
04:15:06.680 --> 04:15:10.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Immigration, projects of immigration for this?

asr-004428
04:15:10.560 --> 04:15:13.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Will also return to the benefit of the government, Your Honor.

asr-004429
04:15:13.800 --> 04:15:19.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Why would you fund another project out of this particular project?

asr-004430
04:15:19.479 --> 04:15:22.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But this will go to the National Treasury, Your Honor.

asr-004431
04:15:22.640 --> 04:15:23.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: That's it.

asr-004432
04:15:23.439 --> 04:15:27.309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And then, since we are the agency...

asr-004433
04:15:27.319 --> 04:15:30.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So this is still a business of the government?

asr-004434
04:15:30.159 --> 04:15:32.269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: There's a profit.

asr-004435
04:15:32.279 --> 04:15:35.750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The service is what the business does.

asr-004436
04:15:35.760 --> 04:15:36.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No, Your Honor.

asr-004437
04:15:37.000 --> 04:15:38.149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We are charging...

asr-004438
04:15:38.159 --> 04:15:40.309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: It's 5% profit.

asr-004439
04:15:40.319 --> 04:15:41.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's not...

asr-004440
04:15:41.800 --> 04:15:43.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's the share between...

asr-004441
04:15:43.439 --> 04:15:46.189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Private proponent and the government, Your Honor.

asr-004442
04:15:46.199 --> 04:15:49.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Is this a part of the Swiss Challenge?

asr-004443
04:15:49.199 --> 04:15:50.309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004444
04:15:50.319 --> 04:15:53.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: There was a comparative challenge, which is the Swiss Challenge, which...

asr-004445
04:15:53.600 --> 04:15:58.229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Who gave the comparative challenge?

asr-004446
04:15:58.239 --> 04:16:00.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We sent out notices, Your Honor.

asr-004447
04:16:01.000 --> 04:16:02.030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But no one came?

asr-004448
04:16:02.040 --> 04:16:03.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No one challenged, Your Honor.

asr-004449
04:16:03.800 --> 04:16:05.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Usually, that's the case.

asr-004450
04:16:05.479 --> 04:16:06.510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Usually, that's the case.

asr-004451
04:16:06.520 --> 04:16:13.389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Anyway, can we give a copy before the plenary of the proposed contract?

asr-004452
04:16:13.399 --> 04:16:13.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004453
04:16:13.640 --> 04:16:31.070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And the terms of reference and the proposal of the company and the resolution of your PBAC, the bidding committee.

asr-004454
04:16:31.080 --> 04:16:31.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004455
04:16:31.680 --> 04:16:34.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We will provide all the necessary documents to you.

asr-004456
04:16:34.920 --> 04:16:36.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Before the plenary?

asr-004457
04:16:37.000 --> 04:16:37.550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004458
04:16:37.560 --> 04:16:42.269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From the PPP, DOJ, Bureau of Immigration.

asr-004459
04:16:42.279 --> 04:16:42.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: All of that.

asr-004460
04:16:43.000 --> 04:16:47.950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, we will provide it to you as requested, Your Honor.

asr-004461
04:16:47.960 --> 04:16:50.710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Another topic.

asr-004462
04:16:50.720 --> 04:16:51.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Last question.

asr-004463
04:16:51.560 --> 04:16:52.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: My last question.

asr-004464
04:16:52.479 --> 04:16:53.950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you.

asr-004465
04:16:53.960 --> 04:16:55.389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Still on immigration.

asr-004466
04:16:55.399 --> 04:16:55.670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004467
04:16:55.680 --> 04:16:57.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: There are a lot of issues with you.

asr-004468
04:16:57.479 --> 04:16:59.910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Joseph C. has been in jail for a year.

asr-004469
04:16:59.920 --> 04:17:01.189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004470
04:17:01.199 --> 04:17:03.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What is the case of Joseph C.?

asr-004471
04:17:03.199 --> 04:17:08.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Joseph C., Your Honor, is a fake Filipino, Your Honor.

asr-004472
04:17:08.600 --> 04:17:09.349
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

asr-004473
04:17:09.359 --> 04:17:12.070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe around 100,000 here in the Philippines.

asr-004474
04:17:12.080 --> 04:17:14.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004475
04:17:14.239 --> 04:17:15.109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe around 100,000 here in the Philippines.

asr-004476
04:17:15.119 --> 04:17:15.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 100,000.

asr-004477
04:17:15.840 --> 04:17:20.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: If you arrest all the big businessmen, our economy will collapse.

asr-004478
04:17:21.000 --> 04:17:31.429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, based on intelligence information that we gathered, Joseph C. is attending the communist party meetings in China.

asr-004479
04:17:31.439 --> 04:17:38.070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Well, I asked during the budget hearing last year, I asked Secretary Año kung spy si Joseph C.

asr-004480
04:17:38.080 --> 04:17:43.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabi niya sa akin, negosyante lang 'yan. Wala kaming information.

asr-004481
04:17:43.640 --> 04:17:46.469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, ang pinaglalaban din po namin...

asr-004482
04:17:46.479 --> 04:17:48.750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What is your basis for saying that?

asr-004483
04:17:48.760 --> 04:17:52.469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, intelligence information from government agencies.

asr-004484
04:17:52.479 --> 04:17:52.910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From?

asr-004485
04:17:52.920 --> 04:17:53.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From what government agency?

asr-004486
04:17:53.560 --> 04:17:54.910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From?

asr-004487
04:17:54.920 --> 04:17:55.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What government agency?

asr-004488
04:17:56.000 --> 04:17:59.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Because I talked to Secretary Año, tinanong ko.

asr-004489
04:17:59.199 --> 04:18:00.790
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kilala ko kasi, matagal na si...

asr-004490
04:18:00.800 --> 04:18:03.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Siguro mga 15 years ko nang kilala si Joseph C.

asr-004491
04:18:03.560 --> 04:18:04.269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004492
04:18:04.279 --> 04:18:07.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So kilala ko naman na negosyante.

asr-004493
04:18:07.159 --> 04:18:12.950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagbabayad naman ng buwis dito sa Pilipinas.

asr-004494
04:18:12.960 --> 04:18:17.750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The information I can relate to you after this meeting, Your Honor.

asr-004495
04:18:17.760 --> 04:18:19.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What agency?

asr-004496
04:18:19.439 --> 04:18:21.910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I can relate it to you, Your Honor.

asr-004497
04:18:21.920 --> 04:18:25.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam ko lang na agency na nagtatanong diyan, Senate, eh.

asr-004498
04:18:25.159 --> 04:18:28.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po, Your Honor. Hindi po Senate.

asr-004499
04:18:28.239 --> 04:18:33.790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But ang amin naman pong, Your Honor, pinaglalaban din pagdating naman po sa fake Filipinos

asr-004500
04:18:33.800 --> 04:18:42.990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: is 'yung sistema natin ng pag-issue ng mga documents na pinanghahawakan po natin bilang Pilipino,

asr-004501
04:18:43.000 --> 04:18:48.630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: like 'yung pasaporte, 'yung mga birth certificates na nababayaran na po, Your Honor.

asr-004502
04:18:48.640 --> 04:18:54.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam niyo po, I've been talking to the Filipino-Chinese Chamber of Commerce, the officers.

asr-004503
04:18:55.000 --> 04:19:00.070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: In fact, I filed a proposal to amend the immigration law.

asr-004504
04:19:00.080 --> 04:19:07.510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi po mahigit, baka 200,000 'yung mga illegal aliens dito,

asr-004505
04:19:07.520 --> 04:19:09.070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pero mostly Chinese.

asr-004506
04:19:09.080 --> 04:19:12.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pumapasok po sila dito using fake documents,

asr-004507
04:19:12.439 --> 04:19:14.229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: marriage certificates, birth certificates.

asr-004508
04:19:14.239 --> 04:19:16.870
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So nagpo-provide din 'yung mga agencies natin.

asr-004509
04:19:16.880 --> 04:19:17.590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004510
04:19:17.600 --> 04:19:20.870
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: They facilitate for certain fees.

asr-004511
04:19:20.880 --> 04:19:25.469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At ang gusto nila talaga, kung at least mga seven, ten years na sila dito,

asr-004512
04:19:25.479 --> 04:19:29.030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: wala naman silang criminal record, wala naman silang...

asr-004513
04:19:29.040 --> 04:19:31.590
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and they're willing to pay ten million.

asr-004514
04:19:31.600 --> 04:19:32.389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, sir.

asr-004515
04:19:32.399 --> 04:19:36.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And that will amount to billions of revenue,

asr-004516
04:19:36.840 --> 04:19:42.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kaysa daw po tuwing Pasko, dinadaanan sila ng mga immigration agents diyan sa Binondo

asr-004517
04:19:42.640 --> 04:19:44.750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at hinihingan sila.

asr-004518
04:19:44.760 --> 04:19:50.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Eh mag-one-time legitimize na nila 'yung kanilang status.

asr-004519
04:19:51.000 --> 04:19:57.030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam niyo, ang masama dito, may pinag-interesan 'yung property nung isang Chinese,

asr-004520
04:19:57.040 --> 04:19:59.109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o, huhulihin.

asr-004521
04:19:59.119 --> 04:20:00.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 'Di ba? Ganoon ang mangyayari.

asr-004522
04:20:01.000 --> 04:20:04.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ganoon ang mangyayari.

asr-004523
04:20:04.159 --> 04:20:06.269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi natin i-legitimize?

asr-004524
04:20:06.279 --> 04:20:11.070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 'Yung ngang ibang mga Chinese, 'yung mga taipans dito, mga tycoons,

asr-004525
04:20:11.080 --> 04:20:12.910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: they are more Filipino than

asr-004526
04:20:12.920 --> 04:20:14.790
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: many of us

asr-004527
04:20:14.800 --> 04:20:19.189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in terms of contributing to the national economy.

asr-004528
04:20:19.199 --> 04:20:20.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi natin ayusin ito?

asr-004529
04:20:20.640 --> 04:20:21.510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-004530
04:20:21.520 --> 04:20:23.910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe Secretary Bida can...

asr-004531
04:20:23.920 --> 04:20:26.269
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-004532
04:20:26.279 --> 04:20:27.309
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-004533
04:20:27.319 --> 04:20:32.149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, we have a pending for the amendment of the Immigration Act.

asr-004534
04:20:32.159 --> 04:20:36.429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that their additional powers can enter here.

asr-004535
04:20:36.439 --> 04:20:37.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Additional powers to address this.

asr-004536
04:20:37.840 --> 04:20:42.429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It also reached us that we have one...

asr-004537
04:20:42.439 --> 04:20:51.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It also reached us that we have one municipality that manufactures birth certificates, right?

asr-004538
04:20:51.119 --> 04:20:51.550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-004539
04:20:51.560 --> 04:20:52.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: In Mineralo.

asr-004540
04:20:52.119 --> 04:20:52.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-004541
04:20:52.840 --> 04:20:56.070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: These are the things that, when we see it,

asr-004542
04:20:56.080 --> 04:20:59.269
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for moving forward, I completely agree with you,

asr-004543
04:20:59.279 --> 04:21:08.389
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that there won't be opportunities for enterprising so-called public servants.

asr-004544
04:21:08.399 --> 04:21:09.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

asr-004545
04:21:09.760 --> 04:21:12.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because we should send a message that...

asr-004546
04:21:12.520 --> 04:21:17.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that there should be a cut-clear criteria for us to look at this,

asr-004547
04:21:18.000 --> 04:21:19.710
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: whether you're qualified or not.

asr-004548
04:21:19.720 --> 04:21:21.109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Then, you enter here.

asr-004549
04:21:21.119 --> 04:21:23.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: When you enter, then we're able.

asr-004550
04:21:23.760 --> 04:21:27.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, a consequential benefit would be collection of the proper fees.

asr-004551
04:21:28.000 --> 04:21:30.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam niyo, sa Caloocan, motorcycle...

asr-004552
04:21:30.560 --> 04:21:36.269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sa district ko po, Grace Park, Motorcycle Capital of Luzon.

asr-004553
04:21:36.279 --> 04:21:40.830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At karamihan po ng mga Chinese businessman doon, 'yung mga maliliit na businessman,

asr-004554
04:21:40.840 --> 04:21:42.790
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nagtitinda ng motor parts.

asr-004555
04:21:42.800 --> 04:21:48.149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Matagal na po sila diyan, pero talagang illegal po 'yung entry nila.

asr-004556
04:21:48.159 --> 04:21:51.550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mga fake documents.

asr-004557
04:21:51.560 --> 04:21:55.510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At dahil po dito sa nangyayaring ito, marami pong umaalis, eh.

asr-004558
04:21:55.520 --> 04:21:55.910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Umaalis na.

asr-004559
04:21:55.920 --> 04:22:00.750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May mga asawa po 'yan na Pilipina

asr-004560
04:22:00.760 --> 04:22:03.109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na minsan naiiwan na nila.

asr-004561
04:22:03.119 --> 04:22:09.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At kung aalis po lahat 'yung mga illegals doon sa lugar namin,

asr-004562
04:22:09.640 --> 04:22:12.269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: babagsak talaga 'yung ekonomiya ng lugar namin.

asr-004563
04:22:12.279 --> 04:22:18.990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaya nga po siguro, kung ayos naman, may NBI clearance,

asr-004564
04:22:19.000 --> 04:22:21.750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mayroong national security clearance,

asr-004565
04:22:21.760 --> 04:22:23.950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: wala naman pong mga kaso,

asr-004566
04:22:23.960 --> 04:22:26.109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at matagal na sila dito,

asr-004567
04:22:26.119 --> 04:22:29.870
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: eh baka puwede na nating i-legitimize 'yung kanilang stay.

asr-004568
04:22:29.880 --> 04:22:33.670
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Katulad din naman 'yan ng mga Pilipino sa America,

asr-004569
04:22:33.680 --> 04:22:37.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga TNT na nale-legitimize.

asr-004570
04:22:37.439 --> 04:22:42.269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At hindi naman natin gawin 'yan dito sa mga kapitbahay natin,

asr-004571
04:22:42.279 --> 04:22:45.309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na Filipino-Chinese.

asr-004572
04:22:45.319 --> 04:22:47.429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe the DOJ can work on that.

asr-004573
04:22:47.439 --> 04:22:49.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission, Your Honor,

asr-004574
04:22:49.760 --> 04:22:53.429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we will properly come up with a roadmap on this.

asr-004575
04:22:53.439 --> 04:22:55.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because so that it won't go back and forth.

asr-004576
04:22:55.800 --> 04:22:58.750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because just like what I've mentioned,

asr-004577
04:22:58.760 --> 04:22:59.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we don't want to...

asr-004578
04:22:59.920 --> 04:23:01.429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because we have a lot of work to do.

asr-004579
04:23:01.439 --> 04:23:03.349
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I want it to be over.

asr-004580
04:23:03.359 --> 04:23:05.469
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that this problem will be over.

asr-004581
04:23:05.479 --> 04:23:08.070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission, with permission of everyone,

asr-004582
04:23:08.080 --> 04:23:10.870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we will duly consult you.

asr-004583
04:23:10.880 --> 04:23:11.950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, we need your...

asr-004584
04:23:11.960 --> 04:23:14.429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need your learnings on the ground.

asr-004585
04:23:14.439 --> 04:23:15.590
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need your know-how.

asr-004586
04:23:15.600 --> 04:23:18.429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: You need to be more aware of the movements of those...

asr-004587
04:23:18.439 --> 04:23:20.309
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: You said it, right?

asr-004588
04:23:20.319 --> 04:23:21.710
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Those who have become friends.

asr-004589
04:23:21.720 --> 04:23:24.790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We're happy with the development of our economy.

asr-004590
04:23:24.800 --> 04:23:27.070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So I'll be tasking...

asr-004591
04:23:27.080 --> 04:23:28.630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes. Thank you.

asr-004592
04:23:28.640 --> 04:23:29.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Together with the BI,

asr-004593
04:23:30.000 --> 04:23:32.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: once and for all, of course,

asr-004594
04:23:32.840 --> 04:23:34.510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we need the former commissioner,

asr-004595
04:23:34.520 --> 04:23:35.630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the wisdom of the former commissioner.

asr-004596
04:23:35.640 --> 04:23:36.630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I consulted also...

asr-004597
04:23:36.640 --> 04:23:38.990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that we can see.

asr-004598
04:23:39.000 --> 04:23:41.710
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that it won't go back and forth.

asr-004601
04:23:41.720 --> 04:23:45.630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we can raise a lot of revenue

asr-004602
04:23:45.640 --> 04:23:48.830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from these people.

asr-004603
04:23:48.840 --> 04:23:49.910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes. Everything, Your Honor,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: within the legal framework.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes, sir.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Secretary.

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Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you very much. So iyon.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Cong. Egay Erice.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the majority:

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Kaloy Bolilia.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Good afternoon.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: And good afternoon,

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: my esteemed colleagues,

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and, of course, the all other guests,

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the heads of the attached agencies

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of the Department of Justice.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Good afternoon, Secretary.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Following the line of questioning

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of my colleague,

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kong Egay Erice.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I will continue that

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: in the Bureau of Immigration.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Commissioner.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, sir.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, sir.

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04:24:39.324 --> 04:24:41.746
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: May POGO pa ba dito sa Pilipinas?

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04:24:42.326 --> 04:24:43.327
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung pong

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: malalaking grupo

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng POGO, nabaklas na

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po iyon, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as we know,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: wala na pong malalaking grupo. Ngayon

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po, pagdating sa mga

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04:24:56.254 --> 04:24:58.015
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: maliliit na splinter groups,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: there's a probability, Your Honor—there's

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a possibility—but we

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: are always going after them once

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we gather the intelligence information which

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: would warrant us to

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: detain them and

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to deport them accordingly.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We do that, Your Honor.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mr. Immigration Commissioner, kilala po ba ninyo si Mr. Kim Wong?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sino po si Mr. Wong, sir?

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kasi ho pag naggo-golf ako sa Philippine Navy, pag ang kalaban ko'y mga abogadong naglilingkod din sa

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: bayan, sabi nila, ‘Aha, magaling ka na mag-golf dahil kaibigan mo siguro si Kim

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Wong.’ Kaya nagtataka

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ako. Iyan sa Navy, hindi sa ibang golf courses.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, sir.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So hindi mo siya kilala, o kilala mo siya?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Mr. Wong, I know him from the business community, but we don't talk.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Nagkaroon ba ng pagkakataon na magkasama kayo?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No, Your Honor, hindi po kami magkasama.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Probably in social functions, but not official.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mabuti naman.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Are you aware na may POGO pa ring nag-e-exist sa Barangay Multinational?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At this point, Your Honor, I am not aware, but once I get information from you, we will act on it accordingly, Your Honor.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I'm quite sure of the presence or existence of POGO in Multinational.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: For whatever reason, whoever protects this, it's for you to find out because you have an intelligence fund to address my concern.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So ngayon, may decrease sa inyong budget request. Dapat matulungan iyan because we need to strengthen especially

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: border control. Ano po ang epekto nitong budget sa ating border control, sa ating approach sa

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: human trafficking issues, at, of

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: course, sa undesirable aliens na unti-unting pumapasok sa ating bansa?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Admittedly, Your Honor, yung decrease po ng budget namin would affect our

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: operations sa lahat. Ngayon po, pagdating sa ni-request ko po kanina, kung maaari pong sa aming border offices—border control offices—and then sa main office po, i-computerize po.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Malaking tulong po iyan sa aming efforts. Ngayon po, pagdating naman po

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04:27:34.448 --> 04:27:39.531
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa computerization, iyan din po ang aming habol, and automation iyan

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04:27:39.531 --> 04:27:41.552
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: din po ang habol namin. And

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: then nabanggit po kanina ni Congressman Erice yung tungkol po doon sa aming advance passenger information system. Malaking

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: magiging tulong po iyon, Your Honor, sa pag-expand po ng ating borders and for us to have a holistic approach,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: intelligence-driven approach, pagdating ho sa border control, Your Honor.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Maraming salamat doon sa inyong magandang kasagutan.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Eh tinignan na ho ako ni Cong. Rufus Rodriguez, ibig sabihin, dahil si former Commissioner Rufus Rodriguez,

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ibig sabihin huwag na raw ako magtanong, kaya that would be all.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Your Honor.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Idol ho ng lahat ho iyan.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Again, maraming salamat po, Commissioner.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you rin po, Your Honor.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Next is Bucor.

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04:28:25.218 --> 04:28:31.582
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa Bucor ho, ayan, may binubulong na si Chairman.

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04:28:33.182 --> 04:28:36.584
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: There was, of course, obviously, there was a funding gap para sa mga...

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: inmates po natin, General Catapang.

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BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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04:28:40.707 --> 04:28:48.512
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tama po ba na sa 100 na subsistence allowance at 20 pesos na medicine allowance?

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04:28:48.632 --> 04:28:58.597
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Ito ba ba'y sapat na para tumugon sa ating mga PDLs na sa kasalukuyan ay nasa jail facility ng National Penitentiary?

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Nagsimula po yan sa 70 pesos.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tapos last year or two years ago, ginawang 100.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Pero masasabi natin na dahil tumaas na naman po yung mga bilihin, eh baka hindi po sapat yung 100 pesos na sa isang araw na pagkain.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So, bakit po yung isang daang piso ngayon, ay yun po bang mga bidders natin doon sa Bucor,

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04:29:28.035 --> 04:29:35.960
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: eh nandun pa ba yung mga Chinese na kumokontrol ng bidding ng pagkain sa ating facility?

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04:29:36.820 --> 04:29:40.322
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ah, wala po kong alam na Chinese po na...

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04:29:40.322 --> 04:29:40.882
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Wala na po.

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04:29:40.922 --> 04:29:41.203
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo.

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04:29:41.523 --> 04:29:45.825
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kasi mabuti kung wala na po, kasi po iyon ang sumasabotahe sa ating

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04:29:46.536 --> 04:29:48.337
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: mga bidding o budget o

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04:29:48.337 --> 04:29:49.918
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: food requirements sa ating facility.

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04:29:49.918 --> 04:29:52.239
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Director,

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04:29:52.239 --> 04:29:54.561
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ano po yung congestion

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04:29:55.401 --> 04:29:56.322
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: rate natin sa kasalukuyan?

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04:29:57.322 --> 04:29:58.563
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa ngayon po,

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04:29:58.563 --> 04:30:00.424
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: naibaba na po natin sa

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BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 204% congestion rate po.

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04:30:02.525 --> 04:30:03.966
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So meaning?

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04:30:03.966 --> 04:30:06.948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nung umupo ako, 350%; naging 204% na po.

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04:30:07.548 --> 04:30:08.169
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So meaning?

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04:30:08.169 --> 04:30:09.329
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nung 350

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04:30:09.329 --> 04:30:11.811
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nung umupo ako,

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04:30:12.371 --> 04:30:13.872
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 350%

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04:30:13.872 --> 04:30:15.413
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naging 204 na po.

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04:30:15.413 --> 04:30:17.674
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Meaning malaki po ang iniluwag

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04:30:17.674 --> 04:30:19.615
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: pero ganun pa man

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04:30:19.615 --> 04:30:22.357
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nagsisikipan pa rin

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04:30:22.357 --> 04:30:23.358
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: po ang mga

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04:30:23.358 --> 04:30:24.558
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: PDL natin.

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04:30:27.160 --> 04:30:30.222
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So wala na po tayong tinatawag na mga kubol

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04:30:30.222 --> 04:30:32.063
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na napapanood natin

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04:30:32.063 --> 04:30:33.003
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: on national TV?

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04:30:33.864 --> 04:30:34.824
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Wala na po kasi

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04:30:34.824 --> 04:30:36.365
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang alam ko

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04:30:36.365 --> 04:30:39.047
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 5,500 kubols

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04:30:39.047 --> 04:30:40.968
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang na-dismantle natin

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04:30:40.968 --> 04:30:43.289
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: for the last two years.

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Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So for the record

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04:30:45.190 --> 04:30:46.571
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: siguro tanging kayo lamang

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04:30:46.571 --> 04:30:48.713
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ang BuCor director na nakapagpaalis noon.

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04:30:49.753 --> 04:30:50.113
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo,

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04:30:50.313 --> 04:30:52.575
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malaking bagay po na

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04:30:52.575 --> 04:30:54.156
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: through of course nung

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04:30:54.156 --> 04:30:56.597
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: decisive po kasi

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04:30:56.597 --> 04:30:58.218
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang Department of Justice

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04:30:58.218 --> 04:31:00.840
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na ipagiba lahat ang mga kubol

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04:31:00.840 --> 04:31:02.681
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sinunod ko lang po ang kanilang utos.

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04:31:03.241 --> 04:31:04.582
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: For that I truly commend

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04:31:04.582 --> 04:31:06.743
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the performance of your office

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04:31:06.743 --> 04:31:07.844
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and so far as

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04:31:07.844 --> 04:31:10.766
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the welfare,

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04:31:10.766 --> 04:31:12.106
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: yung mga

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04:31:12.106 --> 04:31:14.728
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: kagalingan ng ating PDLs

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04:31:14.728 --> 04:31:15.188
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: is concerned.

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04:31:15.208 --> 04:31:16.689
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Maraming salamat po, Direktor.

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04:31:17.129 --> 04:31:19.291
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Maraming salamat din po, SOJ,

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04:31:19.291 --> 04:31:20.251
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa suporta ninyo.

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04:31:20.691 --> 04:31:22.873
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Of course, siguro

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04:31:22.873 --> 04:31:25.174
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hinihintay ako ni Director General

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04:31:25.174 --> 04:31:26.735
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Acosta dahil kaya si

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04:31:26.735 --> 04:31:27.736
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mam,

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04:31:28.856 --> 04:31:30.217
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hanggang ngayon po ay

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04:31:30.217 --> 04:31:32.678
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ako'y bata pa pero

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04:31:32.678 --> 04:31:34.940
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ang kagandahan nyo

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04:31:34.940 --> 04:31:35.840
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hindi nagbabago.

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04:31:37.261 --> 04:31:38.882
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Sir, thank you po. Gulay po

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04:31:38.882 --> 04:31:39.743
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: saka prutas.

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04:31:40.063 --> 04:31:41.864
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Saka maging mabait po.

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04:31:41.864 --> 04:31:42.384
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Ha?

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04:31:42.564 --> 04:31:43.245
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Mabait.

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04:31:45.226 --> 04:31:48.188
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa inyo po bang karanasan

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04:31:48.188 --> 04:31:49.969
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: bilang Director General

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04:31:49.969 --> 04:31:51.770
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng Public Attorney's Office,

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04:31:52.430 --> 04:31:54.391
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ano po ba yung mga

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04:31:54.391 --> 04:31:56.813
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nakikita nyo kakulangan

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04:31:56.813 --> 04:31:58.594
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng inyong tanggapan?

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04:31:59.274 --> 04:32:00.195
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Lalo na sa mga

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04:32:00.195 --> 04:32:02.116
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: welfare ng inyong mga abugadong

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04:32:02.116 --> 04:32:03.197
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: naglilingkot sa bayan.

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04:32:05.228 --> 04:32:07.349
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Matagal nang walang creation ng staff.

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04:32:08.310 --> 04:32:09.190
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yung lawyer po,

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04:32:09.530 --> 04:32:11.451
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: siya rin ang staff sa mga distrito.

asr-004772
04:32:11.631 --> 04:32:13.513
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Kaya nakikiusap kami na

asr-004773
04:32:13.513 --> 04:32:15.794
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: magdagdag ng 400 staff

asr-004774
04:32:15.794 --> 04:32:16.674
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kahit mabababang

asr-004775
04:32:16.714 --> 04:32:17.775
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: item lang para lang

asr-004776
04:32:17.775 --> 04:32:19.056
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may tao po sa opisina

asr-004777
04:32:19.056 --> 04:32:20.757
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pag naghe-hearing yung mga abogado.

asr-004778
04:32:21.757 --> 04:32:23.018
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kaya ako po, naitanong ko kay

asr-004779
04:32:23.018 --> 04:32:25.360
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mr. Good Secretary to address

asr-004780
04:32:25.360 --> 04:32:26.640
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the, to help the

asr-004781
04:32:26.640 --> 04:32:28.862
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: PAO office. Kasi nga po,

asr-004782
04:32:28.942 --> 04:32:30.803
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: doon sa distrito ko, sa Batangas,

asr-004783
04:32:31.463 --> 04:32:32.804
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: eh talagang kawawa yung

asr-004784
04:32:32.804 --> 04:32:34.725
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: mga PAO lawyers natin. Parang

asr-004785
04:32:34.725 --> 04:32:36.686
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: alam mo, parang

asr-004786
04:32:36.686 --> 04:32:38.587
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: empleyado lang nung isang

asr-004787
04:32:38.587 --> 04:32:40.008
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nag-

asr-004788
04:32:40.008 --> 04:32:42.150
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nag-online selling.

asr-004789
04:32:42.990 --> 04:32:44.791
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Siksikan at walang...

asr-004790
04:32:44.791 --> 04:32:46.532
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kaya nga, I'm just trying to provide

asr-004791
04:32:46.732 --> 04:32:48.633
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: an office for them

asr-004792
04:32:48.633 --> 04:32:50.274
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: dahil kailangan talaga.

asr-004793
04:32:50.354 --> 04:32:51.855
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kaya ho, naitanong ko yun. Siyempre,

asr-004794
04:32:52.736 --> 04:32:53.356
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: baka ho,

asr-004795
04:32:53.916 --> 04:32:56.658
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hindi natin napapagtuunan

asr-004796
04:32:56.658 --> 04:32:58.279
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng pansin. Tama po yung sinasabi

asr-004797
04:32:58.279 --> 04:33:00.901
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ni Director General Acosta

asr-004798
04:33:00.901 --> 04:33:02.662
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na there is really a need

asr-004799
04:33:02.662 --> 04:33:04.423
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: for a funding

asr-004800
04:33:04.423 --> 04:33:06.764
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: insertion sa kanyang

asr-004801
04:33:06.764 --> 04:33:07.525
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: departamento.

asr-004802
04:33:10.416 --> 04:33:12.698
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Aha, first time ko nakarinig ng buzzer.

asr-004803
04:33:13.358 --> 04:33:14.198
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sige, bigyan mo lang akong

asr-004804
04:33:14.198 --> 04:33:16.080
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: dalawang minuto. Minsan lang naman magtanong eh.

asr-004805
04:33:16.080 --> 04:33:18.241
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Actually, kung dumating agad si Congressman

asr-004806
04:33:18.241 --> 04:33:19.542
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tinio, hindi na ako magtatanong.

asr-004807
04:33:20.802 --> 04:33:22.603
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sige ho, maraming salamat.

asr-004808
04:33:22.703 --> 04:33:24.044
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Basta ako ho, bilang

asr-004809
04:33:24.044 --> 04:33:26.366
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: naniniwala sa ginagawa

asr-004810
04:33:26.366 --> 04:33:27.386
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng inyong mga lawyers,

asr-004811
04:33:28.007 --> 04:33:30.108
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I truly believe na, Sekretary,

asr-004812
04:33:30.228 --> 04:33:32.029
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: kailangan sa susunod na

asr-004813
04:33:32.029 --> 04:33:34.010
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa mga darating panahon, bigyan nyo

asr-004814
04:33:34.010 --> 04:33:35.671
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng kaukulang pansin yung welfare

asr-004815
04:33:35.671 --> 04:33:38.093
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng ating mga abogado sa public

asr-004816
04:33:38.093 --> 04:33:39.673
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: attorney's office. Maraming salamat po.

asr-004817
04:33:39.714 --> 04:33:42.075
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Mabuhay po kayo. Salamat din po

asr-004818
04:33:42.075 --> 04:33:43.836
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa suporta ninyo sa mga distrito natin

asr-004819
04:33:43.836 --> 04:33:46.297
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa Batangas. Kailangan namin po

asr-004820
04:33:46.297 --> 04:33:48.239
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kayo.

asr-004821
04:33:48.259 --> 04:33:50.180
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Basta sabi ho sa Batangas, ‘Tan-aw.’ Basta

asr-004822
04:33:50.180 --> 04:33:52.421
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: dala ko ho ang wallet, malakas ho ang loob ko.

asr-004823
04:33:53.262 --> 04:33:54.302
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you po.

asr-004824
04:33:54.782 --> 04:33:56.343
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you, thank you. And again,

asr-004825
04:33:56.423 --> 04:33:58.385
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: another Batangueña, sasamantalahin ko

asr-004826
04:33:58.385 --> 04:34:00.486
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na sa ating

asr-004827
04:34:00.486 --> 04:34:01.686
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: magandang

asr-004828
04:34:01.686 --> 04:34:03.488
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: OSG

asr-004829
04:34:03.488 --> 04:34:06.269
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: SolGen Darlene

asr-004830
04:34:06.269 --> 04:34:07.850
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Berberabe. Actually,

asr-004831
04:34:08.070 --> 04:34:09.211
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tatanong ko sana eh.

asr-004832
04:34:10.952 --> 04:34:11.552
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Anyways,

asr-004833
04:34:12.933 --> 04:34:14.114
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tayo ba eh,

asr-004834
04:34:14.554 --> 04:34:15.575
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: we are into

asr-004835
04:34:16.575 --> 04:34:17.096
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: digitalization.

asr-004836
04:34:17.336 --> 04:34:18.056
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tayo ba eh,

asr-004837
04:34:18.276 --> 04:34:20.358
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: merong effective case management

asr-004838
04:34:20.358 --> 04:34:22.179
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: system to track every

asr-004839
04:34:22.179 --> 04:34:24.360
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: case that the OSG is handling?

asr-004840
04:34:24.360 --> 04:34:24.760
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tama po. Iyon po yung

asr-004841
04:34:25.360 --> 04:34:28.522
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Tama po yun po yung kaninang aking naidulog

asr-004842
04:34:28.522 --> 04:34:29.183
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sapagkat

asr-004843
04:34:29.183 --> 04:34:32.605
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on one hand na kami po'y natutuwa

asr-004844
04:34:32.605 --> 04:34:34.486
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na i-na-approve naman

asr-004845
04:34:34.486 --> 04:34:36.247
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa DBM side

asr-004846
04:34:36.247 --> 04:34:38.188
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: yun pong pagbili

asr-004847
04:34:38.188 --> 04:34:40.229
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng building ng OSG sapagkat

asr-004848
04:34:40.229 --> 04:34:42.190
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 49 years old na po yung

asr-004849
04:34:42.190 --> 04:34:43.971
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: OSG main building at

asr-004850
04:34:43.971 --> 04:34:46.413
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: medyo lumilindol po kahit walang lindol

asr-004851
04:34:46.413 --> 04:34:47.974
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Ang natanggal po

asr-004852
04:34:48.294 --> 04:34:48.794
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ay yung budget po na nakalaan

asr-004853
04:34:48.794 --> 04:34:51.216
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa aming IISP,

asr-004854
04:34:51.216 --> 04:34:53.757
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na nakaprograma po sana

asr-004855
04:34:53.757 --> 04:34:55.438
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: yung upgrading

asr-004856
04:34:55.438 --> 04:34:58.320
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng docket management.

asr-004857
04:34:58.320 --> 04:34:59.961
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So ang docket po ng OSG

asr-004858
04:34:59.961 --> 04:35:02.082
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ngayon ay 460,000 cases.

asr-004859
04:35:02.082 --> 04:35:03.543
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po ng OSG ngayon ay

asr-004860
04:35:03.543 --> 04:35:06.265
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 460,000 cases.

asr-004861
04:35:07.345 --> 04:35:08.146
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So, kaya po

asr-004862
04:35:08.146 --> 04:35:10.247
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: malaking bagay kung yun po

asr-004863
04:35:10.247 --> 04:35:11.988
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sana ang aming hirit ay

asr-004864
04:35:11.988 --> 04:35:14.510
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: mapapagbigyan kung makakahanap

asr-004865
04:35:14.510 --> 04:35:16.591
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: pa po ng fiscal space.

asr-004866
04:35:16.991 --> 04:35:17.831
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you,

asr-004867
04:35:18.312 --> 04:35:19.653
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Darlene.

asr-004868
04:35:19.653 --> 04:35:21.574
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa totoo lang as member of the

asr-004869
04:35:21.574 --> 04:35:23.755
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: committee on APRO, that's one

asr-004870
04:35:23.755 --> 04:35:25.576
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: thing na I'll look into

asr-004871
04:35:25.576 --> 04:35:27.457
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and as member ng budget

asr-004872
04:35:27.457 --> 04:35:29.698
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: review committee. Maraming salamat po.

asr-004873
04:35:29.799 --> 04:35:31.039
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Maraming salamat po. Thank you.

asr-004874
04:35:31.139 --> 04:35:32.300
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Isa na lang. Isa na lang.

asr-004875
04:35:33.000 --> 04:35:34.681
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa ating nagtetext na

asr-004876
04:35:34.681 --> 04:35:37.543
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: GOCC sa Office of the

asr-004877
04:35:37.543 --> 04:35:39.644
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Government Corporate Counsel. There was this

asr-004878
04:35:39.644 --> 04:35:40.925
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: meeting

asr-004879
04:35:40.925 --> 04:35:43.507
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: between this representation and

asr-004880
04:35:43.507 --> 04:35:44.988
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the president of SSS

asr-004881
04:35:44.988 --> 04:35:47.349
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and ilang commissioners

asr-004882
04:35:47.349 --> 04:35:48.129
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: just

asr-004883
04:35:48.329 --> 04:35:48.990
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: a month ago.

asr-004884
04:35:49.770 --> 04:35:51.691
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sila po ay namomroblema. I guess

asr-004885
04:35:51.691 --> 04:35:53.773
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: it falls under your

asr-004886
04:35:53.773 --> 04:35:55.374
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: office.

asr-004887
04:35:55.954 --> 04:35:57.495
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Siyempre mayroon sariling charter.

asr-004888
04:35:58.095 --> 04:36:00.217
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Eto, sekretary, maraming

asr-004889
04:36:00.217 --> 04:36:01.837
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: pera pinakamayaman sa

asr-004890
04:36:01.837 --> 04:36:04.119
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: GOCC ng bansang Pilipinas.

asr-004891
04:36:04.779 --> 04:36:06.000
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Alam mo, iyong problema na

asr-004892
04:36:06.000 --> 04:36:07.181
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: i-brought out niya sa akin.

asr-004893
04:36:08.361 --> 04:36:10.302
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: There is a need

asr-004894
04:36:10.302 --> 04:36:12.064
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: to fill in,

asr-004895
04:36:12.144 --> 04:36:13.985
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: maglagay ng mga district offices

asr-004896
04:36:13.985 --> 04:36:15.045
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng SSS.

asr-004897
04:36:16.026 --> 04:36:17.227
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Unfortunately for them,

asr-004898
04:36:17.227 --> 04:36:18.187
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: antagal na daw po sa

asr-004899
04:36:18.187 --> 04:36:20.629
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tanggapan ng, ewan ko kung sa inyo

asr-004900
04:36:20.629 --> 04:36:22.250
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ngayong right office na concerned,

asr-004901
04:36:22.830 --> 04:36:24.171
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sabi niya, boss, may pondo kami.

asr-004902
04:36:24.831 --> 04:36:26.672
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Available. At marami.

asr-004903
04:36:27.052 --> 04:36:27.933
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: We need to hire

asr-004904
04:36:27.933 --> 04:36:30.434
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: 2,000 to 3,000 personnel.

asr-004905
04:36:31.275 --> 04:36:32.656
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Nasa inyo daw pong tanggapan.

asr-004906
04:36:32.836 --> 04:36:34.557
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Ano po ba ang

asr-004907
04:36:34.557 --> 04:36:36.478
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: masasabi ninyo? Hindi ko

asr-004908
04:36:36.478 --> 04:36:38.559
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sinasabing nade-delay. Baka may

asr-004909
04:36:38.559 --> 04:36:40.380
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: technicalities o may guidelines

asr-004910
04:36:40.380 --> 04:36:42.722
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na dapat i-comply. I'm just asking

asr-004911
04:36:42.722 --> 04:36:44.343
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and I just wanted to be

asr-004912
04:36:44.343 --> 04:36:46.304
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: enlightened by your office

asr-004913
04:36:46.304 --> 04:36:48.085
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: with regards to the query,

asr-004914
04:36:48.205 --> 04:36:50.046
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of a president

asr-004915
04:36:50.046 --> 04:36:51.007
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of GOCC.

asr-004916
04:36:51.727 --> 04:36:54.288
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I'm not sure if it's with us po.

asr-004917
04:36:54.769 --> 04:36:55.769
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So hindi po sa inyo.

asr-004918
04:36:55.949 --> 04:36:57.470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But I will check po.

asr-004919
04:36:57.891 --> 04:37:00.012
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So pakicheck na lang po. Kaya nga sabi ko, I'm not

asr-004920
04:37:00.012 --> 04:37:02.153
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sure, but kaya nga

asr-004921
04:37:02.153 --> 04:37:04.214
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: in-address ko. Para, kasi para

asr-004922
04:37:04.214 --> 04:37:06.055
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tayo magkatulungan. Baka

asr-004923
04:37:06.055 --> 04:37:07.196
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: it falls under your

asr-004924
04:37:07.196 --> 04:37:10.438
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: office. I have the

asr-004925
04:37:10.438 --> 04:37:11.819
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: our

asr-004926
04:37:11.819 --> 04:37:13.700
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: head for the

asr-004927
04:37:13.700 --> 04:37:16.201
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: head for the SSS team here po.

asr-004928
04:37:16.201 --> 04:37:17.382
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala daw po sa amin.

asr-004929
04:37:18.223 --> 04:37:20.284
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So maigi naman, pero

asr-004930
04:37:20.284 --> 04:37:22.065
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sige, hanapin ko na lang. Kasi nga

asr-004931
04:37:22.065 --> 04:37:24.146
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I was

asr-004932
04:37:24.146 --> 04:37:26.928
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: elected to be

asr-004933
04:37:26.928 --> 04:37:28.228
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the chair of civil service.

asr-004934
04:37:28.589 --> 04:37:29.709
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Akala niya sa akin,

asr-004935
04:37:30.290 --> 04:37:32.111
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sabi niya sa government

asr-004936
04:37:32.111 --> 04:37:34.592
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: OCG yata yun. So kung hindi po

asr-004937
04:37:34.592 --> 04:37:35.353
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa inyong office,

asr-004938
04:37:36.333 --> 04:37:37.894
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ipapacheck ko na lang po sa aking

asr-004939
04:37:37.894 --> 04:37:40.516
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: COS. Anyways po,

asr-004940
04:37:40.876 --> 04:37:42.177
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: marami pong salamat sa inyong

asr-004941
04:37:42.177 --> 04:37:44.238
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: pagtugon. Panghuli na lang, Secretary,

asr-004942
04:37:44.678 --> 04:37:45.979
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa aking isa pang kababayan,

asr-004943
04:37:47.360 --> 04:37:47.960
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa kay director,

asr-004944
04:37:47.960 --> 04:37:50.121
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Matibag. I would like to

asr-004945
04:37:50.121 --> 04:37:52.043
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: commend his performance. Simula nang maging

asr-004946
04:37:52.043 --> 04:37:53.944
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: NBI director, hangang-hanga ako.

asr-004947
04:37:54.064 --> 04:37:55.385
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mas guwapo pa sa akin.

asr-004948
04:37:56.565 --> 04:37:57.966
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Alam mo, pag nakikita kita

asr-004949
04:37:57.966 --> 04:38:00.087
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng Director, hindi ka ba

asr-004950
04:38:00.087 --> 04:38:02.008
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nahirapan sa pagpa-interview? Dahil

asr-004951
04:38:02.008 --> 04:38:04.050
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: umaga tanghali hapon, laman ka ng

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04:38:04.050 --> 04:38:06.151
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: television. Naiingit ako

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04:38:06.151 --> 04:38:08.012
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa iyo. Feeling ko talagang mas guwapo

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04:38:08.012 --> 04:38:08.592
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ka na sa akin.

asr-004955
04:38:10.513 --> 04:38:12.194
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Hindi naman po. Mas guwapo

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04:38:12.194 --> 04:38:12.915
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pa rin po kayo.

asr-004957
04:38:13.675 --> 04:38:16.217
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Anyways, for the record,

asr-004958
04:38:16.217 --> 04:38:17.878
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I would like personally to commend

asr-004959
04:38:17.978 --> 04:38:18.478
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: The

asr-004960
04:38:18.478 --> 04:38:22.260
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: accomplishments ng National Bureau of Investigation

asr-004961
04:38:22.260 --> 04:38:23.941
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: under the helm of

asr-004962
04:38:23.941 --> 04:38:25.662
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: NBI Director Matibag.

asr-004963
04:38:26.183 --> 04:38:28.164
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: At sa inyo pong lahat ng mga offices

asr-004964
04:38:28.164 --> 04:38:30.045
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: attached offices ng DOJ,

asr-004965
04:38:30.045 --> 04:38:31.986
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa pangunguna ni Secretary.

asr-004966
04:38:32.466 --> 04:38:34.027
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sekretary, napakaganda po

asr-004967
04:38:34.027 --> 04:38:36.349
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng ginagawa ninyo sa bansang Pilipinas.

asr-004968
04:38:36.469 --> 04:38:37.950
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Magandang hapon po at maraming salamat

asr-004969
04:38:37.950 --> 04:38:38.510
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa inyo lahat.

asr-004970
04:38:38.520 --> 04:38:40.346
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Kong Kaloy.

asr-004971
04:38:41.455 --> 04:38:43.465
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority,

asr-004972
04:38:44.413 --> 04:38:44.736
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kong

asr-004973
04:38:44.736 --> 04:38:47.255
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Antonio Tini po.

asr-004974
04:38:51.160 --> 04:38:51.758
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Salamat, Chair.

asr-004975
04:38:52.894 --> 04:38:54.967
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Chair, ang tanong ko po ay

asr-004976
04:38:54.967 --> 04:38:55.844
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa

asr-004977
04:38:55.844 --> 04:38:59.193
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential funds ng Department

asr-004978
04:38:59.193 --> 04:39:01.147
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Justice. So,

asr-004979
04:39:01.426 --> 04:39:02.821
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumabas na po ito sa balita, no?

asr-004980
04:39:02.921 --> 04:39:05.433
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung paglobo

asr-004981
04:39:05.433 --> 04:39:07.067
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng confidential funds

asr-004982
04:39:07.067 --> 04:39:09.300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Office of the

asr-004983
04:39:09.300 --> 04:39:10.755
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Secretary, in particular,

asr-004984
04:39:11.233 --> 04:39:12.988
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in 2025. Pero bago yun,

asr-004985
04:39:14.064 --> 04:39:15.160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024,

asr-004986
04:39:16.316 --> 04:39:17.373
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makikita po natin

asr-004987
04:39:17.373 --> 04:39:19.247
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung datos.

asr-004988
04:39:21.061 --> 04:39:22.317
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024, sa GAA,

asr-004989
04:39:22.456 --> 04:39:24.031
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 168 million

asr-004990
04:39:24.031 --> 04:39:26.224
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang approved

asr-004991
04:39:26.224 --> 04:39:28.237
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na confidential expenses.

asr-004992
04:39:28.735 --> 04:39:30.828
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But the actual, it is reported,

asr-004993
04:39:31.008 --> 04:39:33.460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naging 271.6 million.

asr-004994
04:39:34.795 --> 04:39:35.852
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-explain po,

asr-004995
04:39:35.991 --> 04:39:36.788
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano nangyari yun?

asr-004996
04:39:39.639 --> 04:39:41.732
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung yung particular po na bagay,

asr-004997
04:39:41.931 --> 04:39:43.267
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kasi meron po tayong

asr-004998
04:39:43.267 --> 04:39:45.400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa akin nung pagkakaunawa,

asr-004999
04:39:45.838 --> 04:39:47.015
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung COA Circular

asr-005000
04:39:47.015 --> 04:39:49.347
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2015, ito po ang

asr-005001
04:39:49.347 --> 04:39:50.922
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nagbibigay ng kalatas,

asr-005002
04:39:50.961 --> 04:39:52.895
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kung paano po natin pwedeng

asr-005003
04:39:52.895 --> 04:39:54.609
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: gastusin yung confidential fund.

asr-005004
04:39:54.729 --> 04:39:56.623
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At sino lamang, anong mga

asr-005005
04:39:56.623 --> 04:39:58.995
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: activities lamang ang pinapayagan.

asr-005006
04:39:59.573 --> 04:40:01.546
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pangalwa, sa nasabi rin

asr-005007
04:40:01.546 --> 04:40:02.423
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung circular,

asr-005008
04:40:03.061 --> 04:40:05.194
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakalagay din po kung paano po ino-augment

asr-005009
04:40:05.194 --> 04:40:06.948
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at sinusupplement

asr-005010
04:40:06.948 --> 04:40:08.344
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung confidential fund

asr-005011
04:40:08.344 --> 04:40:10.576
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or intelligence fund.

asr-005012
04:40:11.174 --> 04:40:12.570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ay nakapaloob

asr-005013
04:40:12.570 --> 04:40:14.742
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dito rin sa circular na to

asr-005014
04:40:14.742 --> 04:40:16.417
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng Commission on Audit po.

asr-005015
04:40:16.995 --> 04:40:18.370
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, ang klaro po,

asr-005016
04:40:18.370 --> 04:40:19.646
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: first of all,

asr-005017
04:40:19.746 --> 04:40:20.782
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: confidential,

asr-005018
04:40:20.862 --> 04:40:22.178
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito hindi intelligence fund.

asr-005019
04:40:22.178 --> 04:40:23.713
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala kayong intelligence fund.

asr-005020
04:40:23.713 --> 04:40:25.367
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pang-military po yun.

asr-005021
04:40:26.085 --> 04:40:29.075
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, yung sinasabi nyo ng 2024,

asr-005022
04:40:29.354 --> 04:40:31.407
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in-augment ang inyong confidential funds?

asr-005023
04:40:31.786 --> 04:40:33.241
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi, ang GAA,

asr-005024
04:40:33.381 --> 04:40:34.955
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 168M, million,

asr-005025
04:40:36.191 --> 04:40:38.264
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pero sa budget documents,

asr-005026
04:40:38.783 --> 04:40:40.337
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang actual na confidential

asr-005027
04:40:40.337 --> 04:40:41.175
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: expenses nyo,

asr-005028
04:40:41.314 --> 04:40:43.766
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 271 million, lumagpas by

asr-005029
04:40:43.766 --> 04:40:44.962
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more than

asr-005030
04:40:44.962 --> 04:40:48.450
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 102 million pesos.

asr-005031
04:40:50.763 --> 04:41:45.471
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pase po sa pinasa po na records, nung 2023 po, meron pong SICA na tinatawag for the confidential fund na 215 million, ito po ay naging continuing, kaya tumawid po siya ng 2024, kaya bahagi po nung 2024 ay nanggaling po dun sa SICA na ipinasok po nung 2023.

asr-005032
04:41:45.471 --> 04:41:46.827
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-explain po, ano yung SICA?

asr-005033
04:41:46.847 --> 04:41:48.900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung Congressional

asr-005034
04:41:48.900 --> 04:41:49.518
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Initiative,

asr-005035
04:41:50.235 --> 04:41:52.807
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po yung

asr-005036
04:41:52.807 --> 04:41:54.999
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagpumasok na po, ang pagkakaalam

asr-005037
04:41:54.999 --> 04:41:56.754
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ko po, nagsisimula po sa

asr-005038
04:41:56.754 --> 04:41:58.029
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: NET, di ba?

asr-005039
04:41:58.428 --> 04:42:00.441
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pagkatapos, merong HGAB, no?

asr-005040
04:42:00.880 --> 04:42:02.734
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, meron tayong House

asr-005041
04:42:02.734 --> 04:42:04.468
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: General Appropriations Bill.

asr-005042
04:42:05.186 --> 04:42:06.860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At bago, bago

asr-005043
04:42:06.860 --> 04:42:08.714
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po, bago po aproban,

asr-005044
04:42:09.192 --> 04:42:10.548
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po yung mga Congressional

asr-005045
04:42:10.548 --> 04:42:12.162
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Initiative na source po.

asr-005046
04:42:12.541 --> 04:42:15.013
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Congress introduced changes and adjustments.

asr-005047
04:42:16.747 --> 04:42:18.920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Insertion, ba? Yung tinatawag na

asr-005048
04:42:18.920 --> 04:42:20.355
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Congressional insertion.

asr-005049
04:42:20.913 --> 04:42:22.847
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? So, you're saying

asr-005050
04:42:22.847 --> 04:42:24.721
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung 2024 may dinagdag

asr-005051
04:42:24.721 --> 04:42:25.478
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa inyong

asr-005052
04:42:25.478 --> 04:42:28.329
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganun ba yun?

asr-005053
04:42:32.924 --> 04:42:34.239
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagal na rin po ako sa Kongreso,

asr-005054
04:42:34.359 --> 04:42:36.033
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon ko lang po narinig yung SICA, ano yung

asr-005055
04:42:36.033 --> 04:42:36.651
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig sabihin nun?

asr-005056
04:42:37.588 --> 04:42:40.459
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Congress introduced

asr-005057
04:42:40.459 --> 04:42:42.591
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: changes and adjustments.

asr-005058
04:42:43.508 --> 04:42:44.086
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung

asr-005059
04:42:44.086 --> 04:42:45.183
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: CICA.

asr-005060
04:42:45.183 --> 04:42:46.558
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: CICA po.

asr-005061
04:42:46.937 --> 04:42:47.894
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Okay, thank you.

asr-005062
04:42:48.133 --> 04:42:50.007
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ay base po sa

asr-005063
04:42:50.007 --> 04:42:51.083
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: record ng aming

asr-005064
04:42:51.083 --> 04:42:53.097
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: finance department po.

asr-005065
04:42:53.814 --> 04:42:54.572
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nagkaroon po ang...

asr-005066
04:42:54.572 --> 04:42:57.243
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That CICA was for 2024?

asr-005067
04:42:57.861 --> 04:42:58.977
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For 2023.

asr-005068
04:42:59.495 --> 04:43:01.847
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2023. Tapos,

asr-005069
04:43:02.944 --> 04:43:04.379
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginastos nyo for 2024.

asr-005070
04:43:04.798 --> 04:43:06.173
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo, kasi allowed po

asr-005071
04:43:06.173 --> 04:43:07.708
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung budget allocation

asr-005072
04:43:07.708 --> 04:43:10.160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for MOE is allowed

asr-005073
04:43:10.160 --> 04:43:12.273
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to be used for the two years po.

asr-005074
04:43:12.911 --> 04:43:14.306
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May may expiry po siya.

asr-005075
04:43:14.944 --> 04:43:15.801
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, ngayon...

asr-005076
04:43:15.801 --> 04:43:17.974
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tumawid.

asr-005077
04:43:17.974 --> 04:43:18.532
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005078
04:43:19.908 --> 04:43:21.741
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: On 2025 GAA,

asr-005079
04:43:22.918 --> 04:43:23.476
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung

asr-005080
04:43:23.476 --> 04:43:25.788
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential funds ng

asr-005081
04:43:25.788 --> 04:43:27.562
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Secretary of Justice

asr-005082
04:43:27.562 --> 04:43:30.014
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naging 1.524

asr-005083
04:43:30.014 --> 04:43:31.051
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: billion pesos.

asr-005084
04:43:31.868 --> 04:43:34.320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 2024, 168

asr-005085
04:43:34.320 --> 04:43:34.858
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: million.

asr-005086
04:43:35.675 --> 04:43:37.688
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2025, 1.5 billion.

asr-005087
04:43:37.828 --> 04:43:39.582
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Almost 10 times

asr-005088
04:43:39.582 --> 04:43:41.735
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nilaki sa isang

asr-005089
04:43:41.735 --> 04:43:42.193
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: taon.

asr-005090
04:43:44.027 --> 04:43:46.041
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakipaliwanag po. Paano nangyari yun?

asr-005091
04:43:46.041 --> 04:43:47.536
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos naman, pagdating ng

asr-005092
04:43:47.536 --> 04:43:49.689
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026, 729.

asr-005093
04:43:49.808 --> 04:43:51.602
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano ang

asr-005094
04:43:51.602 --> 04:43:55.410
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kapabalaghan ang nangyari

asr-005095
04:43:55.410 --> 04:43:57.682
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 2025 na lumobo

asr-005096
04:43:57.682 --> 04:43:59.556
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng sampung beses ang confidential

asr-005097
04:43:59.556 --> 04:44:00.732
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: funds ninyo?

asr-005098
04:44:03.901 --> 04:44:05.357
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Base po sa record,

asr-005099
04:44:05.935 --> 04:44:08.426
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 1.5 na confidential fund

asr-005100
04:44:08.426 --> 04:44:10.380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng Department of Justice

asr-005101
04:44:10.380 --> 04:44:11.197
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay

asr-005102
04:44:11.197 --> 04:44:14.207
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may ilan component to.

asr-005103
04:44:14.367 --> 04:44:16.041
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa Office of the Secretary

asr-005104
04:44:16.041 --> 04:44:17.995
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: proper, 1.184,

asr-005105
04:44:18.752 --> 04:44:20.347
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: which is 1 billion

asr-005106
04:44:20.347 --> 04:44:21.702
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 184 million.

asr-005107
04:44:22.360 --> 04:44:24.393
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa WPP po, yung sa

asr-005108
04:44:24.393 --> 04:44:26.646
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Witness Protection, ito po

asr-005109
04:44:26.646 --> 04:44:28.480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay 319 million.

asr-005110
04:44:29.277 --> 04:44:30.692
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tapos yung sa Iyakat po

asr-005111
04:44:30.692 --> 04:44:31.849
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay 15 million.

asr-005112
04:44:32.746 --> 04:44:34.580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa Office of the Cybercrime

asr-005113
04:44:34.580 --> 04:44:36.573
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po, 475,000.

asr-005114
04:44:37.271 --> 04:44:38.467
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tapos yung NCC

asr-005115
04:44:38.467 --> 04:44:40.520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: o SAIC po ay 5 million pesos.

asr-005116
04:44:41.198 --> 04:44:42.354
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa kabuhan, ito po ay

asr-005117
04:44:42.354 --> 04:44:43.291
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 1.5

asr-005118
04:44:43.291 --> 04:44:46.141
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 1.1 billion

asr-005119
04:44:46.141 --> 04:44:46.400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pesos.

asr-005120
04:44:46.400 --> 04:44:48.633
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 1,524,000,000 po.

asr-005121
04:44:49.271 --> 04:44:50.925
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At tama po yan.

asr-005122
04:44:51.444 --> 04:44:53.158
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yan po ang nasa record ng DOJ.

asr-005123
04:44:53.576 --> 04:44:54.912
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At for 2026,

asr-005124
04:44:55.490 --> 04:44:57.842
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito naman po ay mula po sa 1.5,

asr-005125
04:44:58.460 --> 04:45:03.783
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: bumaba po sa 729,946,000.

asr-005126
04:45:04.460 --> 04:45:06.633
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At ang breakdown naman po nito ay

asr-005127
04:45:06.633 --> 04:45:08.786
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa Office of the Secretary po,

asr-005128
04:45:09.005 --> 04:45:10.421
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 214,000,000.

asr-005129
04:45:10.899 --> 04:45:13.291
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa Witness Protection Program po,

asr-005130
04:45:13.391 --> 04:45:14.507
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 500,000,000.

asr-005131
04:45:15.145 --> 04:45:16.142
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa Iyakat po,

asr-005132
04:45:16.540 --> 04:45:17.776
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dun sa Interagency,

asr-005133
04:45:18.553 --> 04:45:22.042
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Interagency Council Against Trafficking,

asr-005134
04:45:22.461 --> 04:45:23.059
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 10,000,000.

asr-005135
04:45:23.617 --> 04:45:25.132
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung Office of the Cybercrime,

asr-005136
04:45:25.211 --> 04:45:26.766
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 475,000.

asr-005137
04:45:27.304 --> 04:45:29.457
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At yung NCC o SAEK o SAEM,

asr-005138
04:45:29.876 --> 04:45:30.932
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 5,000,000 pa rin po.

asr-005139
04:45:31.650 --> 04:45:33.522
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, salamat po sa mga breakdown.

asr-005140
04:45:33.701 --> 04:45:36.190
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, ang pinakamalaki dun sa binanggit nyo,

asr-005141
04:45:36.190 --> 04:45:38.560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 1.5 billion nung 2025,

asr-005142
04:45:38.918 --> 04:45:40.113
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion nun,

asr-005143
04:45:40.750 --> 04:45:42.462
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay sa Office of the Secretary.

asr-005144
04:45:42.741 --> 04:45:42.881
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

asr-005145
04:45:43.279 --> 04:45:43.617
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005146
04:45:44.394 --> 04:45:44.732
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005147
04:45:46.186 --> 04:45:47.102
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ang,

asr-005148
04:45:47.480 --> 04:45:48.337
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naubos ba yun?

asr-005149
04:45:48.974 --> 04:45:49.949
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2025?

asr-005150
04:45:50.547 --> 04:45:52.100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Base po sa records namin,

asr-005151
04:45:52.239 --> 04:45:52.518
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: opo,

asr-005152
04:45:52.677 --> 04:45:54.967
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: fully obligated and liquidated po.

asr-005153
04:45:54.967 --> 04:45:55.266
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course,

asr-005154
04:45:55.565 --> 04:45:56.441
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sunod na tanong ko,

asr-005155
04:45:56.580 --> 04:45:59.607
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano naubos ng Office of the Secretary,

asr-005156
04:45:59.766 --> 04:46:02.056
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion in confidential funds,

asr-005157
04:46:02.156 --> 04:46:02.813
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion,

asr-005158
04:46:03.709 --> 04:46:05.441
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: when in previous years,

asr-005159
04:46:06.317 --> 04:46:06.994
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ganon,

asr-005160
04:46:07.313 --> 04:46:08.926
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10 times less

asr-005161
04:46:08.926 --> 04:46:10.280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang inyo.

asr-005162
04:46:10.818 --> 04:46:11.395
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, of course,

asr-005163
04:46:11.455 --> 04:46:11.992
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasabihin nyo na,

asr-005164
04:46:12.032 --> 04:46:12.789
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential nga,

asr-005165
04:46:12.789 --> 04:46:13.824
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh bakit mo tinatanong?

asr-005166
04:46:13.924 --> 04:46:14.422
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba, ganon?

asr-005167
04:46:14.880 --> 04:46:14.979
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O,

asr-005168
04:46:15.358 --> 04:46:15.756
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: however,

asr-005169
04:46:16.054 --> 04:46:18.205
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit yung Office of the President,

asr-005170
04:46:18.504 --> 04:46:20.037
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may general na paliwanag,

asr-005171
04:46:20.236 --> 04:46:23.203
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi sila may 4 billion plus confidential.

asr-005172
04:46:23.283 --> 04:46:25.055
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ng Office of the President,

asr-005173
04:46:25.234 --> 04:46:26.489
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagamit daw for

asr-005174
04:46:26.489 --> 04:46:27.763
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coast Watch,

asr-005175
04:46:28.161 --> 04:46:30.989
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for their drug monitoring program,

asr-005176
04:46:31.168 --> 04:46:32.243
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and number of others.

asr-005177
04:46:33.597 --> 04:46:34.553
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tinatanong ko ngayon,

asr-005178
04:46:34.732 --> 04:46:35.867
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Department of Justice,

asr-005179
04:46:36.027 --> 04:46:37.639
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion pisong cash yan.

asr-005180
04:46:37.839 --> 04:46:38.476
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam na natin,

asr-005181
04:46:38.535 --> 04:46:39.651
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang confidential funds,

asr-005182
04:46:39.830 --> 04:46:41.244
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinidisburst in cash.

asr-005183
04:46:41.244 --> 04:46:43.235
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We're talking about 1 billion pesos.

asr-005184
04:46:43.474 --> 04:46:44.887
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, quarterly,

asr-005185
04:46:45.923 --> 04:46:48.989
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tiga to 250 million at least.

asr-005186
04:46:49.368 --> 04:46:49.467
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

asr-005187
04:46:50.025 --> 04:46:50.343
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005188
04:46:51.140 --> 04:46:52.295
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Saan nyo naman ginamit to?

asr-005189
04:46:53.271 --> 04:46:54.465
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ano ang naging bunga?

asr-005190
04:46:56.158 --> 04:47:00.160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dito po nakapaloob lahat po nung activities po.

asr-005191
04:47:00.578 --> 04:47:01.016
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course,

asr-005192
04:47:01.096 --> 04:47:02.012
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung panahon po ito,

asr-005193
04:47:02.171 --> 04:47:04.023
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: si Ombudsman,

asr-005194
04:47:04.123 --> 04:47:05.298
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: then Secretary Boeing,

asr-005195
04:47:05.417 --> 04:47:07.966
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: rimulya po ang Secretary.

asr-005196
04:47:08.404 --> 04:47:10.017
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero base po sa record namin,

asr-005197
04:47:10.455 --> 04:47:12.605
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po lahat ay disversed and liquidated

asr-005198
04:47:12.605 --> 04:47:14.577
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pursuant to the COA circular po.

asr-005199
04:47:15.791 --> 04:47:16.787
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005200
04:47:18.061 --> 04:47:21.168
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala naman itong mga notice of disallowance?

asr-005201
04:47:21.924 --> 04:47:22.721
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po.

asr-005202
04:47:22.820 --> 04:47:23.179
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po.

asr-005203
04:47:23.657 --> 04:47:24.095
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala.

asr-005204
04:47:24.334 --> 04:47:24.772
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po.

asr-005205
04:47:24.871 --> 04:47:25.130
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005206
04:47:25.250 --> 04:47:25.429
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala.

asr-005207
04:47:25.987 --> 04:47:26.325
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005208
04:47:26.783 --> 04:47:27.380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero alam,

asr-005209
04:47:27.659 --> 04:47:28.057
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I mean,

asr-005210
04:47:28.495 --> 04:47:28.854
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

asr-005211
04:47:29.790 --> 04:47:30.646
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon,

asr-005212
04:47:30.746 --> 04:47:33.294
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang hinihingi niyong confidential funds,

asr-005213
04:47:33.892 --> 04:47:36.401
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 is 729,

asr-005214
04:47:36.600 --> 04:47:37.416
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and for this year,

asr-005215
04:47:37.775 --> 04:47:41.956
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's supposed to be 364 million.

asr-005216
04:47:42.115 --> 04:47:42.554
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

asr-005217
04:47:43.828 --> 04:47:44.186
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

asr-005218
04:47:45.660 --> 04:47:48.906
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Base sa NEP 2027, 364 million.

asr-005219
04:47:48.906 --> 04:47:49.045
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005220
04:47:49.344 --> 04:47:50.976
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Teka mo na, balikan ko pala yung tanong ko.

asr-005221
04:47:51.434 --> 04:47:52.769
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Saan niyo pala ginamit?

asr-005222
04:47:53.904 --> 04:47:54.521
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For what?

asr-005223
04:47:55.337 --> 04:47:58.105
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano yung particular na gamit ng 1 billion?

asr-005224
04:47:58.503 --> 04:48:01.769
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit lumaki ng gano'n sa particular na taon na yun?

asr-005225
04:48:03.143 --> 04:48:03.740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos,

asr-005226
04:48:04.497 --> 04:48:06.488
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026, hindi na kailangan.

asr-005227
04:48:06.628 --> 04:48:09.156
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, mukhang lalong hindi niyo kailangan.

asr-005228
04:48:09.634 --> 04:48:11.128
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, saan ginamit?

asr-005229
04:48:11.426 --> 04:48:13.019
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In very general terms,

asr-005230
04:48:13.019 --> 04:48:15.011
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ako humihingi ng detalyo,

asr-005231
04:48:15.528 --> 04:48:16.325
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ako humihingi ng detalyo,

asr-005232
04:48:16.325 --> 04:48:18.396
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na mag-i-expose ng inyong mga,

asr-005233
04:48:19.352 --> 04:48:20.347
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course,

asr-005234
04:48:20.467 --> 04:48:23.812
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that will compromise law enforcement and so on.

asr-005235
04:48:25.066 --> 04:48:26.261
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Give us an idea.

asr-005236
04:48:26.381 --> 04:48:29.049
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The taxpayers deserve to hear,

asr-005237
04:48:29.168 --> 04:48:31.478
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isang bilyong pisong confidential funds,

asr-005238
04:48:31.697 --> 04:48:33.091
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inubos niyo sa isang taon,

asr-005239
04:48:34.087 --> 04:48:35.978
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anong pakinabang niya ng taong bayan,

asr-005240
04:48:36.058 --> 04:48:36.795
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung meron man?

asr-005241
04:48:38.746 --> 04:48:39.602
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Marami po.

asr-005242
04:48:39.782 --> 04:48:41.773
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At ang pagsunod po dito,

asr-005243
04:48:42.032 --> 04:48:43.704
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mahal na congressman,

asr-005244
04:48:43.704 --> 04:48:44.262
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay,

asr-005245
04:48:44.262 --> 04:48:48.284
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: base pa rin po sa panuntunan ng circular po ng COA.

asr-005246
04:48:48.483 --> 04:48:52.565
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ay gagamitin lamang sa confidential activities,

asr-005247
04:48:52.764 --> 04:48:53.262
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of course,

asr-005248
04:48:53.262 --> 04:48:56.588
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung pag-gather po ng informasyon.

asr-005249
04:48:56.787 --> 04:48:58.141
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung mga bagay,

asr-005250
04:48:58.141 --> 04:49:00.132
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kasi ang sa pagkakabatid ko po,

asr-005251
04:49:00.132 --> 04:49:03.716
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po ang pagkakaiba nung confidential funds sa regular funding.

asr-005252
04:49:03.915 --> 04:49:08.475
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May exemption siya doon sa procurement activities.

asr-005253
04:49:08.674 --> 04:49:13.055
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At meron din siyang peculiar na pamamaraan ng pagliliquidate.

asr-005254
04:49:13.254 --> 04:49:13.931
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Na ito po ang lahat,

asr-005255
04:49:13.931 --> 04:49:16.161
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lahat ay sinunod po ng Department of Justice,

asr-005256
04:49:16.301 --> 04:49:16.639
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

asr-005257
04:49:17.356 --> 04:49:18.093
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Natumbok mo.

asr-005258
04:49:18.392 --> 04:49:20.164
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Buti po sinabi ni Secretary,

asr-005259
04:49:20.283 --> 04:49:21.458
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun talaga ang totoo dyan.

asr-005260
04:49:22.334 --> 04:49:26.496
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Exempted from normal procurement rules.

asr-005261
04:49:27.193 --> 04:49:27.611
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005262
04:49:28.268 --> 04:49:30.040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya ngayon ang concern natin dito,

asr-005263
04:49:30.180 --> 04:49:31.773
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair,

asr-005264
04:49:32.350 --> 04:49:33.147
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair?

asr-005265
04:49:33.326 --> 04:49:34.222
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Chair pala,

asr-005266
04:49:34.640 --> 04:49:35.596
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and I will wind up.

asr-005267
04:49:35.715 --> 04:49:36.711
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, Madam Chair is here.

asr-005268
04:49:37.229 --> 04:49:37.468
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005269
04:49:38.164 --> 04:49:38.523
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na,

asr-005270
04:49:38.981 --> 04:49:39.638
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: unfortunately,

asr-005271
04:49:39.937 --> 04:49:41.271
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the pattern of

asr-005272
04:49:41.271 --> 04:49:42.326
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bloating

asr-005273
04:49:42.326 --> 04:49:42.844
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

asr-005274
04:49:43.800 --> 04:49:44.795
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

asr-005275
04:49:44.795 --> 04:49:50.152
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential and confidential funds as well as intelligence funds uh,

asr-005276
04:49:50.152 --> 04:50:09.925
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to unreasonable proportion sa kaso po ng DOJ nung twenty twenty five naging naging almost fifteen percent of the total agency budget no nang OSEC ay confidential okay sa kaso ng office of the president.

asr-005277
04:50:09.925 --> 04:50:11.916
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

asr-005278
04:50:11.916 --> 04:50:13.111
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kaso ng office of the president.

asr-005279
04:50:13.111 --> 04:50:14.106
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kaso ng office of the president.

asr-005280
04:50:14.106 --> 04:50:15.898
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Almost fifty percent

asr-005281
04:50:15.898 --> 04:50:18.865
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the budget of the office of the president

asr-005282
04:50:18.865 --> 04:50:21.255
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential and intelligence funds.

asr-005283
04:50:21.593 --> 04:50:22.191
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Exempted.

asr-005284
04:50:22.250 --> 04:50:22.728
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo nga,

asr-005285
04:50:22.907 --> 04:50:23.445
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama yun.

asr-005286
04:50:23.983 --> 04:50:24.281
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo,

asr-005287
04:50:24.441 --> 04:50:25.635
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: exempted sa procurement.

asr-005288
04:50:26.512 --> 04:50:27.109
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala nang,

asr-005289
04:50:27.228 --> 04:50:28.244
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala nang mga,

asr-005290
04:50:28.642 --> 04:50:28.841
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

asr-005291
04:50:28.921 --> 04:50:29.797
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the safeguards and that.

asr-005292
04:50:30.255 --> 04:50:31.490
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya napakadali pong

asr-005293
04:50:31.490 --> 04:50:32.963
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maabuso.

asr-005294
04:50:33.600 --> 04:50:33.879
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya,

asr-005295
04:50:34.098 --> 04:50:34.218
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma,

asr-005296
04:50:34.337 --> 04:50:34.656
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma,

asr-005297
04:50:35.173 --> 04:50:36.189
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to the chairs,

asr-005298
04:50:36.786 --> 04:50:37.065
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

asr-005299
04:50:37.165 --> 04:50:39.116
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan po ang panawagan natin.

asr-005300
04:50:39.275 --> 04:50:40.191
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's bring,

asr-005301
04:50:40.550 --> 04:50:42.103
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagsimula po ang ganitong

asr-005302
04:50:42.103 --> 04:50:42.959
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sobrang paglulog.

asr-005303
04:50:42.979 --> 04:50:43.397
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paglulog po ng

asr-005304
04:50:43.397 --> 04:50:44.811
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential intelligence funds

asr-005305
04:50:44.811 --> 04:50:45.966
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ilalim ng

asr-005306
04:50:45.966 --> 04:50:46.523
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Duterte

asr-005307
04:50:46.523 --> 04:50:47.957
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presidency.

asr-005308
04:50:48.535 --> 04:50:49.172
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unfortunately,

asr-005309
04:50:49.869 --> 04:50:49.948
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinagpatuloy

asr-005310
04:50:50.625 --> 04:50:51.601
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at pinalala pa

asr-005311
04:50:51.601 --> 04:50:53.831
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marcos Jr.

asr-005312
04:50:54.030 --> 04:50:54.707
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: administration

asr-005313
04:50:54.707 --> 04:50:56.500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: katulad nang sa kaso

asr-005314
04:50:56.500 --> 04:50:57.256
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOJ.

asr-005315
04:50:58.331 --> 04:50:58.829
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

asr-005316
04:50:58.889 --> 04:50:59.964
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang kapangtay tong

asr-005317
04:50:59.964 --> 04:51:01.896
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.5 billion

asr-005318
04:51:01.896 --> 04:51:04.006
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na confidential funds nyo

asr-005319
04:51:04.006 --> 04:51:04.843
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in 2025.

asr-005320
04:51:05.420 --> 04:51:05.958
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is a

asr-005321
04:51:05.958 --> 04:51:06.874
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: historic high.

asr-005322
04:51:06.953 --> 04:51:07.133
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct?

asr-005323
04:51:08.069 --> 04:51:09.204
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Base po sa records,

asr-005324
04:51:09.323 --> 04:51:09.562
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sir Honor.

asr-005325
04:51:09.841 --> 04:51:10.239
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Correct.

asr-005326
04:51:10.578 --> 04:51:11.414
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Times 10.

asr-005327
04:51:11.912 --> 04:51:12.210
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

asr-005328
04:51:12.210 --> 04:51:14.640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malala na po ito,

asr-005329
04:51:14.779 --> 04:51:15.297
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Chair.

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04:51:15.436 --> 04:51:16.372
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's bring back,

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04:51:16.611 --> 04:51:16.989
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

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04:51:17.129 --> 04:51:18.045
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rationality

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04:51:18.045 --> 04:51:20.016
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to the budgeting

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04:51:20.016 --> 04:51:20.852
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of agencies.

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04:51:21.310 --> 04:51:21.868
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi pwedeng

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04:51:21.868 --> 04:51:23.302
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil sabihin mo

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04:51:23.302 --> 04:51:24.377
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national security

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04:51:24.377 --> 04:51:25.193
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or,

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04:51:25.631 --> 04:51:25.930
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

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04:51:26.049 --> 04:51:26.886
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: law enforcement

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04:51:26.886 --> 04:51:27.662
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on,

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04:51:27.782 --> 04:51:28.339
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential

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04:51:28.339 --> 04:51:28.837
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: intelligence.

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04:51:30.430 --> 04:51:30.729
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede,

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04:51:31.286 --> 04:51:32.202
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I would,

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04:51:32.441 --> 04:51:33.317
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung may procurement

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04:51:33.317 --> 04:51:34.014
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na kailangan,

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04:51:34.194 --> 04:51:34.791
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi naman pong

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04:51:34.791 --> 04:51:35.528
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dumaan to sa,

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04:51:35.946 --> 04:51:36.304
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

asr-005351
04:51:36.882 --> 04:51:38.076
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you can classify

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04:51:38.076 --> 04:51:39.630
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what needs to be

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04:51:39.630 --> 04:51:40.207
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: classified,

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04:51:40.207 --> 04:51:41.143
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi pwede

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04:51:41.143 --> 04:51:41.720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung parang

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04:51:41.720 --> 04:51:43.333
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: blanket exemptions

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04:51:43.333 --> 04:51:45.145
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on massive amounts.

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04:51:46.101 --> 04:51:46.738
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dati medyo,

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04:51:47.057 --> 04:51:47.794
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabihin mo na,

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04:51:47.833 --> 04:51:48.291
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maliit pa,

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04:51:48.371 --> 04:51:49.188
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reasonable pa yung

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04:51:49.188 --> 04:51:49.785
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential.

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04:51:50.064 --> 04:51:50.701
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon po,

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04:51:50.960 --> 04:51:51.617
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sobrang laki.

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04:51:52.214 --> 04:51:53.747
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 15% of their budget

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04:51:53.747 --> 04:51:54.982
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to 50%

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04:51:54.982 --> 04:51:56.117
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the President's budget.

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04:51:57.073 --> 04:51:57.690
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This Congress

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04:51:57.690 --> 04:51:59.283
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: might put a stop

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04:51:59.283 --> 04:52:00.338
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to this abuse.

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04:52:00.518 --> 04:52:00.876
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang

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04:52:00.876 --> 04:52:01.553
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: posisyon natin.

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04:52:01.971 --> 04:52:02.389
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you.

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04:52:03.046 --> 04:52:03.724
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala na pong oras.

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04:52:03.823 --> 04:52:04.520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po.

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04:52:05.120 --> 04:52:05.680
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you,

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04:52:05.844 --> 04:52:06.521
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Rep. Tinio.

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04:52:06.684 --> 04:52:07.758
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po,

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04:52:07.804 --> 04:52:08.155
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Your Honor.

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04:52:08.761 --> 04:52:09.322
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you po.

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04:52:10.442 --> 04:52:12.123
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The concern is noted

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04:52:12.123 --> 04:52:12.987
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and the

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04:52:13.010 --> 04:52:13.617
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Chair is here

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04:52:13.617 --> 04:52:15.764
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: to discuss

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04:52:15.764 --> 04:52:17.305
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: with everyone

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04:52:17.305 --> 04:52:18.589
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: in the committee

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04:52:18.589 --> 04:52:19.663
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: kung ano po

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04:52:19.663 --> 04:52:20.783
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: yung pwedeng magawa po

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04:52:20.783 --> 04:52:22.184
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: dito sa kantitong concern.

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04:52:23.234 --> 04:52:24.541
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: For the

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04:52:24.541 --> 04:52:25.685
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: second round,

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04:52:27.768 --> 04:52:28.614
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: from the minority,

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04:52:28.841 --> 04:52:29.934
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we would like to

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04:52:29.934 --> 04:52:31.997
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: call on

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04:52:31.997 --> 04:52:33.544
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Allan Ty.

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04:52:36.917 --> 04:52:37.948
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you again,

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04:52:38.051 --> 04:52:38.856
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Chairman.

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04:52:39.557 --> 04:52:41.434
Rep. Allan U. Ty: To Commissioner Viado.

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04:52:42.012 --> 04:52:42.548
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Tapto nung po,

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04:52:42.610 --> 04:52:42.837
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:52:43.353 --> 04:52:43.724
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon.

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04:52:45.663 --> 04:52:46.921
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let me be

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04:52:46.921 --> 04:52:48.737
Rep. Allan U. Ty: project specific,

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04:52:49.087 --> 04:52:49.355
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner.

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04:52:49.355 --> 04:52:49.582
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

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04:52:50.469 --> 04:52:50.882
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under the

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04:52:50.902 --> 04:52:52.635
Rep. Allan U. Ty: General Appropriation Act

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04:52:52.635 --> 04:52:55.214
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of Fiscal Year 2024,

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04:52:55.647 --> 04:52:56.410
Rep. Allan U. Ty: there's a program

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04:52:56.410 --> 04:52:57.730
Rep. Allan U. Ty: enhancement of

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04:52:57.730 --> 04:52:58.720
Rep. Allan U. Ty: border management

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04:52:58.720 --> 04:53:00.783
Rep. Allan U. Ty: information system.

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04:53:01.278 --> 04:53:02.557
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much was allocated?

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04:53:06.394 --> 04:53:07.384
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I believe that's

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04:53:07.384 --> 04:53:09.261
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 1.9 billion,

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04:53:10.272 --> 04:53:10.643
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

asr-005417
04:53:11.716 --> 04:53:12.706
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Based on my record,

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04:53:12.974 --> 04:53:13.366
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner,

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04:53:13.779 --> 04:53:14.707
Rep. Allan U. Ty: the amount is

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04:53:14.707 --> 04:53:16.192
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2.6 billion.

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04:53:16.687 --> 04:53:17.966
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you please refer to

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04:53:17.966 --> 04:53:19.575
Rep. Allan U. Ty: GAA 2024?

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04:53:21.555 --> 04:53:23.659
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If I may refer to this.

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04:53:24.154 --> 04:53:41.471
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

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04:53:41.616 --> 04:53:43.452
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung sa E-Gates po,

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04:53:43.761 --> 04:53:45.721
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that's 1.9 billion.

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04:53:46.216 --> 04:53:48.279
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung 700 million po

asr-005428
04:53:48.279 --> 04:53:49.516
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pertains to

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04:53:49.516 --> 04:53:51.249
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: information,

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04:53:51.600 --> 04:53:53.023
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: computerization and technology

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04:53:53.023 --> 04:53:56.262
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: project na related din po

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04:53:56.262 --> 04:53:56.839
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa E-Gates,

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04:53:56.942 --> 04:53:57.169
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:53:57.891 --> 04:53:59.232
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So it is under one

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04:53:59.232 --> 04:54:00.387
Rep. Allan U. Ty: program,

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04:54:00.697 --> 04:54:01.295
Rep. Allan U. Ty: am I correct?

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04:54:05.503 --> 04:54:07.050
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It pertains to one program,

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04:54:07.153 --> 04:54:07.401
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:54:07.896 --> 04:54:08.226
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

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04:54:08.680 --> 04:54:09.711
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for

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04:54:09.711 --> 04:54:11.237
Rep. Allan U. Ty: GAA 2025?

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04:54:11.836 --> 04:54:13.135
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much was allocated?

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04:54:13.135 --> 04:54:14.723
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under the same program?

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04:54:15.012 --> 04:54:15.198
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2025,

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04:54:37.270 --> 04:54:38.198
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

asr-005446
04:54:38.322 --> 04:54:40.261
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: it's 2.1 billion,

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04:54:40.405 --> 04:54:40.694
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

asr-005448
04:54:41.210 --> 04:54:41.993
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you please again

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04:54:41.993 --> 04:54:43.479
Rep. Allan U. Ty: refer to the GAA?

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04:54:43.871 --> 04:54:44.943
Rep. Allan U. Ty: It's the amount

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04:54:44.943 --> 04:54:45.830
Rep. Allan U. Ty: reflected

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04:54:45.830 --> 04:54:48.409
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is 3.825 billion.

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04:54:54.875 --> 04:54:55.412
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

asr-005454
04:54:55.494 --> 04:54:56.402
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that includes

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04:54:56.402 --> 04:54:57.186
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the E-Gates

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04:54:57.186 --> 04:54:57.970
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: phase 2

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04:54:57.970 --> 04:54:59.125
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of 1.3,

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04:54:59.290 --> 04:54:59.641
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:55:00.548 --> 04:55:00.816
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Correct.

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04:55:00.878 --> 04:55:01.703
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So the total amount

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04:55:01.703 --> 04:55:02.673
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is 3.8,

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04:55:02.735 --> 04:55:03.354
Rep. Allan U. Ty: am I correct,

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04:55:04.096 --> 04:55:04.632
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Commissioner?

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04:55:04.962 --> 04:55:05.458
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct,

asr-005465
04:55:05.561 --> 04:55:05.664
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

asr-005466
04:55:05.767 --> 04:55:06.303
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 3.8.

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04:55:06.345 --> 04:55:06.943
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So we are talking

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04:55:06.943 --> 04:55:08.077
Rep. Allan U. Ty: about one program,

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04:55:08.263 --> 04:55:08.552
Rep. Allan U. Ty: all right?

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04:55:09.150 --> 04:55:10.037
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Based on the GAA,

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04:55:10.037 --> 04:55:12.223
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that's how it is presented.

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04:55:13.049 --> 04:55:13.832
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for

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04:55:13.832 --> 04:55:14.864
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2026?

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04:55:15.153 --> 04:55:16.225
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much is allocated?

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04:55:24.404 --> 04:55:25.539
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2026,

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04:55:25.766 --> 04:55:29.293
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: it's 697,542,000,

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04:55:29.293 --> 04:55:29.561
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:55:29.932 --> 04:55:30.634
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

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04:55:31.479 --> 04:55:32.985
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So in 2024,

asr-005480
04:55:33.336 --> 04:55:34.718
Rep. Allan U. Ty: how much was obligated?

asr-005481
04:55:35.811 --> 04:55:36.451
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much?

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04:55:37.688 --> 04:55:46.858
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: In 2024,

asr-005483
04:55:47.126 --> 04:55:47.518
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

asr-005484
04:55:47.662 --> 04:55:48.714
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: almost 98%

asr-005485
04:55:48.714 --> 04:55:49.457
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: was obligated.

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04:55:49.580 --> 04:55:50.550
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much was released

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04:55:50.550 --> 04:55:52.778
Rep. Allan U. Ty: out of the 2.6 billion?

asr-005488
04:55:58.688 --> 04:55:59.224
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2024.

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04:55:59.636 --> 04:56:14.313
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2024?

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04:56:15.984 --> 04:56:17.366
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Let me check the figures

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04:56:17.366 --> 04:56:18.026
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: first, Your Honor.

asr-005492
04:56:18.356 --> 04:56:50.267
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I may ask you

asr-005493
04:56:50.288 --> 04:56:50.680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and then I'll...

asr-005494
04:56:50.680 --> 04:56:53.227
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sorry, Your Honor,

asr-005495
04:56:53.289 --> 04:56:54.135
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for taking up your time.

asr-005496
04:56:54.238 --> 04:56:55.125
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If we may be allowed

asr-005497
04:56:55.125 --> 04:56:57.745
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to give the figures

asr-005498
04:56:57.745 --> 04:56:58.570
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: later, Your Honor,

asr-005499
04:56:59.024 --> 04:57:02.118
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for 2024, Your Honor.

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04:57:02.366 --> 04:57:03.335
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What do you mean later,

asr-005501
04:57:03.624 --> 04:57:03.933
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner?

asr-005502
04:57:04.531 --> 04:57:05.418
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We still have to go

asr-005503
04:57:05.418 --> 04:57:06.079
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: through our records.

asr-005504
04:57:07.646 --> 04:57:08.368
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: My apologies

asr-005505
04:57:08.368 --> 04:57:09.358
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for making you wait,

asr-005506
04:57:09.503 --> 04:57:09.606
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

asr-005507
04:57:09.957 --> 04:57:10.596
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Oh, no, it's all right.

asr-005508
04:57:11.009 --> 04:57:11.813
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So I can ask

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04:57:11.813 --> 04:57:12.659
Rep. Allan U. Ty: other questions?

asr-005510
04:57:13.113 --> 04:57:13.649
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

asr-005511
04:57:13.731 --> 04:57:14.082
Rep. Allan U. Ty: All right.

asr-005512
04:57:14.330 --> 04:57:14.825
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So how about

asr-005513
04:57:14.825 --> 04:57:17.114
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for 2026?

asr-005514
04:57:18.146 --> 04:57:20.497
Rep. Allan U. Ty: For 2026?

asr-005515
04:57:27.923 --> 04:57:28.377
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Obligated.

asr-005516
04:57:28.707 --> 04:57:29.821
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Yeah, obligated.

asr-005517
04:57:29.821 --> 04:57:33.049
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ay, for 2026,

asr-005518
04:57:33.194 --> 04:57:33.709
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: walang kusay.

asr-005519
04:57:33.813 --> 04:57:34.803
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kuna kusay obligated.

asr-005520
04:57:39.506 --> 04:57:41.032
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2026, Your Honor,

asr-005521
04:57:41.280 --> 04:57:43.755
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we have not...

asr-005522
04:57:43.755 --> 04:57:44.952
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It has not been

asr-005523
04:57:44.952 --> 04:57:45.839
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: obligated, Your Honor.

asr-005524
04:57:46.169 --> 04:57:46.705
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Zero pa po.

asr-005525
04:57:47.200 --> 04:57:47.922
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Capital outlay.

asr-005526
04:57:47.922 --> 04:57:49.717
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Capital outlay, Your Honor.

asr-005527
04:57:50.088 --> 04:57:50.418
Rep. Allan U. Ty: All right.

asr-005528
04:57:50.500 --> 04:57:51.181
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So do you already

asr-005529
04:57:51.181 --> 04:57:51.800
Rep. Allan U. Ty: have a figure

asr-005530
04:57:51.800 --> 04:57:52.708
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for 2025?

asr-005531
04:57:54.296 --> 04:57:55.266
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2025,

asr-005532
04:58:02.372 --> 04:58:03.609
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: no obligation po

asr-005533
04:58:03.609 --> 04:58:04.208
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: also, Your Honor.

asr-005534
04:58:07.106 --> 04:58:07.725
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you refer

asr-005535
04:58:07.725 --> 04:58:08.900
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to your proposed

asr-005536
04:58:08.900 --> 04:58:09.973
Rep. Allan U. Ty: expenditure program

asr-005537
04:58:09.973 --> 04:58:11.768
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for fiscal year 2027?

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: In 2025,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: appropriation

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: is not required.

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04:58:14.264 --> 04:58:16.430
Rep. Allan U. Ty: You have an

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated

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04:58:17.420 --> 04:58:18.245
Rep. Allan U. Ty: allotment of

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: 4.071.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you confirm?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We confirm, Your Honor.

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04:58:24.227 --> 04:58:25.403
Rep. Allan U. Ty: And this pertains

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04:58:25.403 --> 04:58:26.001
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to this,

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04:58:26.125 --> 04:58:26.620
Rep. Allan U. Ty: the program

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: that I just mentioned,

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04:58:28.043 --> 04:58:28.765
Rep. Allan U. Ty: enhancement

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04:58:28.765 --> 04:58:30.291
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of border

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04:58:30.291 --> 04:58:31.013
Rep. Allan U. Ty: management

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04:58:31.013 --> 04:58:32.272
Rep. Allan U. Ty: information system?

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04:58:32.581 --> 04:58:33.901
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, it pertains

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to that, Your Honor.

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04:58:35.366 --> 04:58:36.129
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Also, in

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04:58:36.129 --> 04:58:36.954
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2026,

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04:58:38.811 --> 04:58:39.553
Rep. Allan U. Ty: you have an

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated

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04:58:40.461 --> 04:58:41.513
Rep. Allan U. Ty: appropriation

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04:58:41.513 --> 04:58:42.111
Rep. Allan U. Ty: sa

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04:58:42.111 --> 04:58:45.205
Rep. Allan U. Ty: , under

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04:58:45.205 --> 04:58:46.319
Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated

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04:58:46.319 --> 04:58:47.124
Rep. Allan U. Ty: allotment of

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: 3.558

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: billion.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Am I correct?

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04:58:51.373 --> 04:58:52.425
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, we confirm that,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:58:53.498 --> 04:58:54.075
Rep. Allan U. Ty: May I ask,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: what's the reason

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04:58:54.777 --> 04:58:56.303
Rep. Allan U. Ty: behind the

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04:58:56.303 --> 04:58:57.561
Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated allotment

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: for this particular

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: program?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Bulk of it

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa EGIDS po,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:59:07.855 --> 04:59:08.535
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The bulk of it

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pertains to the

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: EGIDS project,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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04:59:10.165 --> 04:59:11.217
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But what are the

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04:59:11.217 --> 04:59:12.207
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: reasons why it's

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: still unobligated?

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04:59:13.053 --> 04:59:14.229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: To this date?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as I've stated po,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: no latter part of

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 2024,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nag-declare po kami

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng failure of bidding.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, kami po ay,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nagkaroon po nung

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we went through

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a rebidding process.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nung 2025 na lang po

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na yan natapos.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yan po ay

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: several months,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: admittedly,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na-delay because of

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that issue.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ayan po ang,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but,

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04:59:40.274 --> 04:59:41.264
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as I've stated,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we commit to

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: make a full obligation

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: by November

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of this year po.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tatapusin na po namin yan,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As a matter of fact,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we have been

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: conducting meetings

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: every week po

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para ho makapagbigay lang po

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng report sa akin

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa Bureau po

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung mga

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nanunungkulan

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para ho matapos na namin

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung obligasyon namin,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Is this program different from what Congressman Erice mentioned a while ago?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The E-Gates project is different from the Enhanced Border Control System

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that is being proposed under the Public-Private Partnership arrangement.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: May we request everyone to please settle down?

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you make the distinction, Commissioner?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, with the E-Gates project,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we aim to integrate that with the CAIS project.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The CAIS project is a more holistic approach

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: because it does not only pertain to the E-Gates,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but also to our integration with the systems of Interpol,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as well as the Advanced Passenger Information System,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and biometrics.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We also can log in to a billion facial images.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we also have, under the CAIS program,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the reactive screening based on facial contortions

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: or in reaction to certain forms of questioning.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we can also access open source intelligence.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Not only can we access the 194 countries that are members of Interpol,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: their databases,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we can access that.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But also, we can access,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we can access any information from open sources,

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: meaning over the internet.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Facebook, that can be accessed, Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So this is under the PPP program?

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Commissioner Viado.

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BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you, Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let me go to LRA Administrator.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Administrator,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: in your proposed 2027 budget,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: proposed budget,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: how much is under special account?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: What budget?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, it's $1.8 billion.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: $1.780 billion?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the source of your special account in the general fund, Mr. Administrator?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, the special account is Fund 151.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: It is a special account provided by PD 1529,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: where, from our collections, we are allowed to retain 20% of our earnings, Paul.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Please settle down.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Quiet, please.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Where does the 80% of the collection go?

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about the balance of 80%?

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Where does it go?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, the 80% goes directly to the National Treasury,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: and we retain 20% subject to the approval of the DBM on the releases of the 20%.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So the 20% in the amount of 1.7,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: can we use that amount?

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: To pay for titling of free patents issued by the DENR?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, the 1.7 billion is 15% only out of the 20% it represents.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, we believe that it can be used for it.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: The coverage of the special account refers to MOOE accounts and capital outlay.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Because, Administrator, there are thousands of unclaimed free patents before the Registry of Deeds all over the Philippines.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So, probably, can you account for the free patents, unclaimed free patents, in all the Registry of Deeds all over the Philippines?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor, you are correct.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have made that observation in our visits to the different Registers of Deeds.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have observed several, if not thousands, of unregistered patents previously.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: This was covered by an agreement with the DENR, which paid for the registration of the patents.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Subsequently, they removed that funding.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So, perhaps with the approval of the DBM, we can utilize it in registering some of these, or all the remaining patents issued.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: To be taken from the special account?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor, if we can maximize the utilization to 20%.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So, on the other matter, Mr. Administrator, what is the legal responsibility of the

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Registry of Deeds and the LRA for the safekeeping maintenance of Certificate of Titles?

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Please, quiet down.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honour, under PD 1529, the function of the main function of the Registers of Deeds is the main repository of all the

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: titles and supporting documents.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So it's a registry of deeds?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Is the registry of deeds required to prepare an inventory of titles which have been lost,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: destroyed, or rendered unusable by deterioration?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, under PD 1529, the RDs are obliged to conduct an inventory annually.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: I would suppose that would also include all titles, whether it has been lost or damaged in their custody.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: In case of lost administrator of title, who has the legal responsibility for judicial reconstitution?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, unfortunately, when the title is lost, the RD copy is lost.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Under RA 26, as amended by RA 6732,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the responsibility is given to the owner of the title.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: The responsibility was taken away from the RD.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Previously, the RD was allowed to initiate reconstitution cases,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: but because of the passage of the law and because of a Supreme Court decision involving the RD of Malabon or Mandaluyong,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the Supreme Court said that the RDs cannot undertake the filing.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Under the reconstitution case.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Sir Administrator, is there no exception to the rule under RA 6732?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Under RA 26, as amended by RA 6732,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: administrative reconstitution can be undertaken by the LRA

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: if the Administrator has evaluated that at least 10% of the titles in the RD has been lost,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But in no case should it be less than 500 titles.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: As you mentioned earlier, Mr. Administrator, you said the Registry of Deeds are required or mandated to have an inventory of lost titles.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So based on the submission, did the Registry of Deeds make the submission?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: They are required to conduct an inventory which should also include all lost titles.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Some of the RDs have complied with the provisions of the law, and we are closely monitoring also the other RDs, Your Honor.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let's say in case the administrative threshold is not met, what can your office do to assist those lost titles, individual lost titles,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: considering that the loss?

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05:08:21.013 --> 05:08:25.671
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Loss was in the Registry of Deeds, am I not correct?

asr-005730
05:08:26.390 --> 05:08:37.564
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, it is quite unfortunate that the burden is given to the registered owner in undertaking the registration or reconstitution of lost titles.

asr-005731
05:08:37.964 --> 05:08:47.179
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And on our part, what we can do is only provide them with the assistance of providing some of the necessary documents that they will need

asr-005732
05:08:47.179 --> 05:08:50.977
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: in filing the appropriate constitution case with the courts, Your Honor.

asr-005733
05:08:50.997 --> 05:08:52.996
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let's go to Friar Lands.

asr-005734
05:08:52.996 --> 05:09:03.990
Rep. Allan U. Ty: In case of loss of Friar Lands or has been lost or destroyed, and the DNR issued subsequent deed of conveyance,

asr-005735
05:09:03.990 --> 05:09:10.986
Rep. Allan U. Ty: what will happen to the registration of the deed of conveyance before the Registry of Deeds?

asr-005736
05:09:10.986 --> 05:09:12.985
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Thank you, Your Honor, for bringing it up.

asr-005737
05:09:12.985 --> 05:09:16.983
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have several Friar Lands across the country.

asr-005738
05:09:16.983 --> 05:09:17.982
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have the OCDC.

asr-005742
05:09:20.961 --> 05:09:25.958
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have the OCDC, which is supposedly in the custody of the Registers of Deeds.

asr-005743
05:09:25.958 --> 05:09:29.956
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And the owner's copy is supposedly with the LMB.

asr-005744
05:09:29.956 --> 05:09:41.949
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: It is unfortunate that some of the RDs have been destroyed or damaged, which included the titles also.

asr-005745
05:09:41.949 --> 05:09:47.946
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And it is also unfortunate that LMB has also been burned.

asr-005746
05:09:47.946 --> 05:09:50.425
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Their head office in Binondo was burned.

asr-005747
05:09:50.425 --> 05:09:55.422
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So they have also lost some of the owner's copies of these titles.

asr-005748
05:09:55.422 --> 05:10:03.417
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But I would like to inform Your Honor that we are currently talking to the LMB,

asr-005749
05:10:03.417 --> 05:10:08.415
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: since they have lifted the moratorium on the issuance of deeds of conveyance,

asr-005750
05:10:08.415 --> 05:10:18.409
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: to explore administrative remedies so that we can also help the awardees or claimants of these Friar Lands.

asr-005751
05:10:18.409 --> 05:10:19.409
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What administrative remedies?

asr-005752
05:10:19.409 --> 05:10:23.407
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What administrative remedies you are referring to on the part of the DNR?

asr-005753
05:10:23.407 --> 05:10:26.405
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We will still be discussing with the LMB, Your Honor.

asr-005754
05:10:26.405 --> 05:10:33.401
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: In fact, we were supposed to have a meeting last week, but because of the weather, it did not permit it.

asr-005755
05:10:33.401 --> 05:10:35.400
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But we will be meeting with them soon.

asr-005756
05:10:35.400 --> 05:10:46.350
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Perhaps, Your Honor, also with your help, you can also talk to the LMB to meet with us soon on this matter.

asr-005757
05:10:46.360 --> 05:10:52.230
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I think the DNR is scheduled.

asr-005758
05:10:52.240 --> 05:10:56.150
Rep. Allan U. Ty: We will have a budget hearing on Wednesday.

asr-005759
05:10:56.160 --> 05:11:02.870
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Maybe, Administrator, if you can commit to us that you can be present here on Wednesday in the afternoon.

asr-005760
05:11:02.878 --> 05:11:04.628
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: I will come, Your Honor.

asr-005761
05:11:04.638 --> 05:11:06.120
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Administrator.

asr-005762
05:11:15.000 --> 05:11:18.430
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Okay, I will have my third round.

asr-005763
05:11:18.440 --> 05:11:22.230
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I defer to Kong Reni.

asr-005764
05:11:22.240 --> 05:11:23.270
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Your Honor.

asr-005765
05:11:23.280 --> 05:11:24.430
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Kong Alan.

asr-005766
05:11:24.440 --> 05:11:30.270
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the minority again, Rep. Renee Co.

asr-005767
05:11:30.280 --> 05:11:31.670
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you very much, Chair.

asr-005768
05:11:31.680 --> 05:11:35.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And thank you again for DOJ for continuing to be here.

asr-005769
05:11:35.400 --> 05:11:45.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next questions would be in relation to the supposed closure or nearing closure of the New Bilibid Prison.

asr-005770
05:11:45.760 --> 05:11:53.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So it's been on the news that the Bureau of Corrections transferred 15,730 inmates ahead of the closure.

asr-005771
05:11:53.400 --> 05:11:58.548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Puwede pong matanong, since this is a huge endeavor,

asr-005772
05:11:58.558 --> 05:12:02.990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Logistically, ano pong budgetary provisions?

asr-005773
05:12:03.000 --> 05:12:17.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po napondohan ng DOJ 'yung pagpapalipat po ng mga inmates, mass transfer operation, transportation, security, etc. po?

asr-005774
05:12:17.280 --> 05:12:26.350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: With the permission of the Secretary, Mr. Chair, the transfer of the PDLs, ginagawa po 'yan yearly.

asr-005775
05:12:26.360 --> 05:12:34.470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And it's with the support of the budget of Bucor using its MOE.

asr-005776
05:12:34.480 --> 05:12:43.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So pag nag-transfer po ng isang PDL, it costs us about 15,000 to 20,000.

asr-005777
05:12:43.240 --> 05:12:52.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And that's the way we are slowly transferring ng mga PDL.

asr-005778
05:12:52.920 --> 05:12:56.150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And of course, alam niyo naman po sa New Bilibid Prison,

asr-005779
05:12:56.160 --> 05:13:03.150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na 300% congested siya nung dumating ako diyan,

asr-005780
05:13:03.160 --> 05:13:09.510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and now we have reduced it to almost 200% congestion na lang po.

asr-005781
05:13:09.520 --> 05:13:23.150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Puwede po bang ma-confirm, Mr. Chair, na may mga PDLs na mata-transfer to, aside from itong penal colony in Zamboanga?

asr-005782
05:13:23.160 --> 05:13:24.990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron daw pong reports na lilipat din po sa Sablayan, Mindoro;

asr-005783
05:13:25.000 --> 05:13:32.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Iwahig, Palawan; San Ramon, Zamboanga del Sur;

asr-005784
05:13:32.480 --> 05:13:35.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Abuyog, Leyte; at saka po sa Davao del Norte.

asr-005785
05:13:35.040 --> 05:13:35.590
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tama po ba?

asr-005786
05:13:35.600 --> 05:13:40.230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So malilipat din galing New Bilibid papunta dito sa ibang mga penal colonies?

asr-005787
05:13:40.240 --> 05:13:42.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes po.

asr-005788
05:13:42.200 --> 05:13:45.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, puwede po bang makakuha ng full list?

asr-005789
05:13:45.280 --> 05:13:52.830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes. We will submit to you the number of PDLs transferred for each operating prison and penal farm

asr-005790
05:13:52.840 --> 05:13:54.830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: outside the

asr-005791
05:13:54.840 --> 05:13:55.948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: NBP.

asr-005792
05:13:55.958 --> 05:13:57.150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

asr-005793
05:13:57.160 --> 05:14:04.990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 'Yung concern ko po, Mr. Chair, ay, well, ang DOJ, ang BuCor, nagsabi that they are observant of the Mandela Rules,

asr-005794
05:14:05.000 --> 05:14:13.788
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Nelson Mandela Rules, ahead of any legislation, any parang law that would really mandate 'yung pag-observe noon.

asr-005795
05:14:13.798 --> 05:14:21.708
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Rule 59 says that prisoners should be assigned to prisons close to their homes or their places of social rehabilitation.

asr-005796
05:14:21.718 --> 05:14:24.070
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So ang concern ko po, 'yung mga lilipat,

asr-005797
05:14:24.080 --> 05:14:27.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: baka po malayo doon sa kanilang mga pamilya, lalo na kung galing Luzon,

asr-005798
05:14:27.760 --> 05:14:31.628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tapos ililipat po sa Davao del Norte or sa Zamboanga del Sur, malalayo.

asr-005799
05:14:31.638 --> 05:14:37.948
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron po bang way para i-ensure na hindi naman ganito—hindi malalayo sa pamilya,

asr-005800
05:14:37.958 --> 05:14:42.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from legal counsel or even support networks kung saan po sila matatagpuan?

asr-005801
05:14:42.840 --> 05:14:43.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Based on our records,

asr-005802
05:14:43.920 --> 05:14:45.788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na records po, yung mga

asr-005803
05:14:45.798 --> 05:14:48.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: binibisita sa Muntinlupa,

asr-005804
05:14:48.240 --> 05:14:50.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi po namin nililipat.

asr-005805
05:14:50.600 --> 05:14:51.430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero yung karamihan

asr-005806
05:14:51.440 --> 05:14:53.990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po noon, 20,000

asr-005807
05:14:54.000 --> 05:14:55.750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pa po nandoon sa NBP,

asr-005808
05:14:55.760 --> 05:14:57.788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: wala pong bisita.

asr-005809
05:14:57.798 --> 05:14:59.948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya gusto rin po nilang malipat

asr-005810
05:14:59.958 --> 05:15:02.110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dahil alam nila, mas

asr-005811
05:15:02.120 --> 05:15:03.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: maaliwalas, mas secured,

asr-005812
05:15:03.200 --> 05:15:04.830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mas

asr-005813
05:15:04.840 --> 05:15:07.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: presko ang malilipatan nila

asr-005814
05:15:07.878 --> 05:15:09.750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kesa dito po sila nandito sa

asr-005815
05:15:09.760 --> 05:15:12.110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: NBP na nagsisiksikan.

asr-005816
05:15:12.120 --> 05:15:13.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At nasertify naman po ba

asr-005817
05:15:13.840 --> 05:15:15.868
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, na yung mga

asr-005818
05:15:15.878 --> 05:15:18.190
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lilipatang penal colonies nila,

asr-005819
05:15:18.200 --> 05:15:20.628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: adequate habitable infrastructure,

asr-005820
05:15:20.638 --> 05:15:22.990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung nariyan, medical services,

asr-005821
05:15:23.000 --> 05:15:23.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may staff, bago po

asr-005822
05:15:23.760 --> 05:15:25.230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makareceive ng

asr-005823
05:15:25.240 --> 05:15:27.990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: influx ng thousands of inmates

asr-005824
05:15:28.000 --> 05:15:29.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: din po kung tuloy

asr-005825
05:15:29.760 --> 05:15:32.510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung pagtatransfer per year.

asr-005826
05:15:32.520 --> 05:15:34.070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo, Mr. Chair,

asr-005827
05:15:34.080 --> 05:15:35.390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tinatanong po namin 'yung magiging

asr-005828
05:15:35.400 --> 05:15:37.990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: recipient na mga kolonya

asr-005829
05:15:38.000 --> 05:15:40.070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kung kaya nilang iabsorb.

asr-005830
05:15:40.080 --> 05:15:41.350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At sila naman po ang

asr-005831
05:15:41.360 --> 05:15:42.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagsasabi sa amin na

asr-005832
05:15:42.600 --> 05:15:45.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: puwede pa silang mag-absorb.

asr-005833
05:15:45.240 --> 05:15:47.708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya't hindi naman po

asr-005834
05:15:47.718 --> 05:15:49.070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nahihirapan yung mga

asr-005835
05:15:49.080 --> 05:15:51.390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tumatanggap na bagong

asr-005836
05:15:51.400 --> 05:15:53.830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga prison and penal farms

asr-005837
05:15:53.840 --> 05:15:55.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: outside Metro Manila.

asr-005838
05:15:55.878 --> 05:15:57.628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May kailangan po bang additional items

asr-005839
05:15:57.638 --> 05:15:59.230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or additional budget

asr-005840
05:15:59.240 --> 05:16:01.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para po kung anong absorption

asr-005841
05:16:01.400 --> 05:16:03.230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kailangan ay hindi po

asr-005842
05:16:03.240 --> 05:16:05.548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makompromise yung pagbigay po

asr-005843
05:16:05.558 --> 05:16:07.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga servisyo ng mga

asr-005844
05:16:07.440 --> 05:16:09.868
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: penal colonies sa mga inmates?

asr-005845
05:16:09.878 --> 05:16:10.788
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nandito po ba yun sa proposal?

asr-005846
05:16:10.798 --> 05:16:13.110
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng Bucor?

asr-005847
05:16:13.120 --> 05:16:14.750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Maganda pong tanong yan kasi

asr-005848
05:16:14.760 --> 05:16:16.708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kaya ang importante yung support

asr-005849
05:16:16.718 --> 05:16:19.310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: services. Kaya natutuwa

asr-005850
05:16:19.320 --> 05:16:21.270
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naman po kami pag lumipat kami

asr-005851
05:16:21.280 --> 05:16:23.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa nilipat namin yung mga PDL

asr-005852
05:16:23.920 --> 05:16:25.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagbibigay po

asr-005853
05:16:25.200 --> 05:16:27.110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga sasakyan

asr-005854
05:16:27.120 --> 05:16:29.390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para just in case na

asr-005855
05:16:29.400 --> 05:16:30.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mangailangan ng

asr-005856
05:16:30.878 --> 05:16:32.470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malaking hospital na

asr-005857
05:16:32.480 --> 05:16:35.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pag-checkup nila, naitatransport

asr-005858
05:16:35.200 --> 05:16:36.430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naman po sila. Kaya't

asr-005859
05:16:36.440 --> 05:16:41.390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sinisigurado po namin na

asr-005860
05:16:41.400 --> 05:16:43.310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi sila mahihirapan

asr-005861
05:16:43.320 --> 05:16:43.670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa

asr-005862
05:16:43.680 --> 05:16:46.948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bagong lugar na lilipatan

asr-005863
05:16:46.958 --> 05:16:49.628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nila. At

asr-005864
05:16:49.638 --> 05:16:51.510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakatutok lang po kami

asr-005865
05:16:51.520 --> 05:16:52.750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa mga bagong

asr-005866
05:16:52.760 --> 05:16:54.830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: facilities na

asr-005867
05:16:54.840 --> 05:16:56.150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: habang

asr-005868
05:16:56.160 --> 05:16:58.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakoconstruct. Kasi nagsimula

asr-005869
05:16:58.920 --> 05:17:00.990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po tayo ng 2022

asr-005870
05:17:01.000 --> 05:17:02.708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na construction hanggang

asr-005871
05:17:02.718 --> 05:17:04.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ongoing ngayon.

asr-005872
05:17:04.920 --> 05:17:06.628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: We expect by

asr-005873
05:17:06.638 --> 05:17:08.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2028 additional

asr-005874
05:17:08.878 --> 05:17:10.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 11,000 plus.

asr-005875
05:17:10.920 --> 05:17:12.788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na PDL

asr-005876
05:17:12.798 --> 05:17:14.830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dormitories na

asr-005877
05:17:14.840 --> 05:17:16.948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ma-absorb. Kaya tuloy-tuloy po

asr-005878
05:17:16.958 --> 05:17:18.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at hindi naman po sila

asr-005879
05:17:18.240 --> 05:17:22.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nahihirapan.

asr-005880
05:17:22.200 --> 05:17:24.628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero tama po ba na

asr-005881
05:17:24.638 --> 05:17:26.548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: so meron pa rin pong mga

asr-005882
05:17:26.558 --> 05:17:28.230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: inmates or PDLs na

asr-005883
05:17:28.240 --> 05:17:31.150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: magsistay sa New Bilibid Prison?

asr-005884
05:17:31.160 --> 05:17:32.350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Or completely po bang

asr-005885
05:17:32.360 --> 05:17:34.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pinapaalis na po lahat because of

asr-005886
05:17:34.400 --> 05:17:37.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung anumang plans doon sa land?

asr-005887
05:17:37.040 --> 05:17:38.150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang time frame po natin

asr-005888
05:17:38.160 --> 05:17:40.070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kung talaga nating kakayanin

asr-005889
05:17:40.080 --> 05:17:42.470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: is by 2028.

asr-005890
05:17:42.480 --> 05:17:44.548
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Masasara na po

asr-005891
05:17:44.558 --> 05:17:44.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: yung

asr-005892
05:17:44.920 --> 05:17:48.628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: BuCor, pero hindi natin

asr-005893
05:17:48.638 --> 05:17:51.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pipwersahin.

asr-005894
05:17:51.600 --> 05:17:52.708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kung wala naman silang

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05:17:52.718 --> 05:17:54.310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malilipatan,

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05:17:54.320 --> 05:17:56.390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ay mananatili po.

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05:17:56.400 --> 05:17:57.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero siguro,

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05:17:57.878 --> 05:18:00.470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang first na masasara natin

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05:18:00.480 --> 05:18:02.030
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi may property po tayo

asr-005900
05:18:02.040 --> 05:18:04.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: doon sa may bukana ng

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05:18:04.200 --> 05:18:06.750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Daanghari.

asr-005902
05:18:06.760 --> 05:18:08.350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Prime lot po yun.

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05:18:08.360 --> 05:18:10.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang medium

asr-005904
05:18:10.200 --> 05:18:11.750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: security compound na po yun.

asr-005905
05:18:11.760 --> 05:18:16.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yung mga nakakulong po doon

asr-005906
05:18:16.878 --> 05:18:18.470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: more or less 5,000

asr-005907
05:18:18.480 --> 05:18:19.948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pwede nating maisara yun

asr-005908
05:18:19.958 --> 05:18:22.470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and maiwan muna yung

asr-005909
05:18:22.480 --> 05:18:27.110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: minimum at saka maximum

asr-005910
05:18:27.120 --> 05:18:28.788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na compounds

asr-005911
05:18:28.798 --> 05:18:30.510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na nandito po sa looban

asr-005912
05:18:30.520 --> 05:18:32.670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng Bucor.

asr-005913
05:18:32.680 --> 05:18:33.830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: If we can free up about

asr-005914
05:18:33.840 --> 05:18:36.788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 200 hectares

asr-005915
05:18:36.798 --> 05:18:37.708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na pwede nang ipalis

asr-005916
05:18:37.718 --> 05:18:41.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malaking bagay po yun

asr-005917
05:18:41.200 --> 05:18:42.270
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi makakatulong po yun.

asr-005918
05:18:42.280 --> 05:18:44.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Sa pagpapagawa

asr-005919
05:18:44.600 --> 05:18:46.350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng kulungan at pagpapalipat

asr-005920
05:18:46.360 --> 05:18:48.150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga PDL. Hindi po namin

asr-005921
05:18:48.160 --> 05:18:50.910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pipwersahin ang issue.

asr-005922
05:18:50.920 --> 05:18:52.070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Importante po yung

asr-005923
05:18:52.080 --> 05:18:54.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kalagayan at kaayusan

asr-005924
05:18:54.600 --> 05:18:56.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng ating mga PDL.

asr-005925
05:18:56.600 --> 05:18:58.470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Aware po ba yung Bucor, Mr. Chair,

asr-005926
05:18:58.480 --> 05:19:00.708
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na meron po kasing petisyon

asr-005927
05:19:00.718 --> 05:19:02.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na pinirmahan ng

asr-005928
05:19:02.280 --> 05:19:04.548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga 45 PDLs

asr-005929
05:19:04.558 --> 05:19:07.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ang hiling nila

asr-005930
05:19:07.040 --> 05:19:08.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay

asr-005931
05:19:08.400 --> 05:19:10.190
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung retention ng kanilang

asr-005932
05:19:10.200 --> 05:19:12.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: detention sa NBP at hindi po

asr-005933
05:19:12.280 --> 05:19:14.190
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na maitransfer sa

asr-005934
05:19:14.200 --> 05:19:16.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ibang penal colony.

asr-005935
05:19:16.040 --> 05:19:18.548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ay filed through Human Rights Organization

asr-005936
05:19:18.558 --> 05:19:20.350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kapatid. So aware po ba ang

asr-005937
05:19:20.360 --> 05:19:20.910
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bucor dito?

asr-005938
05:19:20.920 --> 05:19:24.430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Aware po kami at sasagutin po namin

asr-005939
05:19:24.440 --> 05:19:26.670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na talagang siguro kung

asr-005940
05:19:26.680 --> 05:19:28.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila na po ang huli

asr-005941
05:19:28.200 --> 05:19:31.030
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa mga PDL na ililipat

asr-005942
05:19:31.040 --> 05:19:32.590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi nga po meron na kaming

asr-005943
05:19:32.600 --> 05:19:35.390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakuhang lilipatan

asr-005944
05:19:35.400 --> 05:19:36.628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: north of Metro Manila

asr-005945
05:19:36.638 --> 05:19:38.350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Nueva Ecija.

asr-005946
05:19:38.360 --> 05:19:40.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nabigyan po kami ni Governor

asr-005947
05:19:40.200 --> 05:19:42.510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Umali na 60 hectares.

asr-005948
05:19:42.520 --> 05:19:44.350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Na pwede namin ilipat doon

asr-005949
05:19:44.360 --> 05:19:45.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: yung mga ibang PDL

asr-005950
05:19:45.878 --> 05:19:47.470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na

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05:19:47.480 --> 05:19:49.868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: taga-Luzon. And then

asr-005952
05:19:49.878 --> 05:19:52.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nine-negotiate po namin dito

asr-005953
05:19:52.240 --> 05:19:53.190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Siniluan, Laguna

asr-005954
05:19:53.200 --> 05:19:56.230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: about 500 hectares

asr-005955
05:19:56.240 --> 05:19:58.390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na makakuha rin kami

asr-005956
05:19:58.400 --> 05:20:00.310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para those who are

asr-005957
05:20:00.320 --> 05:20:01.708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: from south of Luzon,

asr-005958
05:20:01.718 --> 05:20:03.948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Metro Manila, doon naman po

asr-005959
05:20:03.958 --> 05:20:06.070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mailagay.

asr-005960
05:20:06.080 --> 05:20:08.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po sa pagsagot.

asr-005961
05:20:08.320 --> 05:20:10.030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung pagtatanong po natin,

asr-005962
05:20:10.040 --> 05:20:11.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ginagawa natin to ensure na, syempre,

asr-005963
05:20:11.760 --> 05:20:14.590
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in observance of the rule of law

asr-005964
05:20:14.600 --> 05:20:17.150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the processes involved therein,

asr-005965
05:20:17.160 --> 05:20:18.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at some point, may tension,

asr-005966
05:20:18.840 --> 05:20:20.350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may conflict yan doon

asr-005967
05:20:20.360 --> 05:20:22.548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa paano ino-observe 'yung human rights

asr-005968
05:20:22.558 --> 05:20:24.270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga tao.

asr-005969
05:20:24.280 --> 05:20:25.750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, ini-ensure lang natin, to the greatest

asr-005970
05:20:25.760 --> 05:20:28.548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: extent, the widest latitude possible,

asr-005971
05:20:28.558 --> 05:20:30.628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay nirerespeto po 'yung mga karapatan na 'to.

asr-005972
05:20:30.638 --> 05:20:32.430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Including, of course,

asr-005973
05:20:32.440 --> 05:20:33.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung may preference sila

asr-005974
05:20:33.400 --> 05:20:36.230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Mandela Rules, ay nae-exercise,

asr-005975
05:20:36.240 --> 05:20:38.310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nare-respeto po 'yun. And among din 'yun po 'yung

asr-005976
05:20:38.320 --> 05:20:40.390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga tanong natin kanina.

asr-005977
05:20:40.400 --> 05:20:41.868
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po sa pagsagot.

asr-005978
05:20:41.878 --> 05:20:43.830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa pagsagot ng DOJ at ng BuCor.

asr-005979
05:20:43.840 --> 05:20:44.200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

asr-005980
05:20:46.520 --> 05:20:48.604
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Rep. Renee Co. Next in line

asr-005981
05:20:49.185 --> 05:20:50.787
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: from the minority:

asr-005982
05:20:51.489 --> 05:20:53.011
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Sarah Elago.

asr-005983
05:20:57.369 --> 05:20:58.891
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

asr-005984
05:20:59.132 --> 05:21:01.275
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: One of the recommendations of the

asr-005985
05:21:01.275 --> 05:21:03.359
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination

asr-005986
05:21:03.359 --> 05:21:05.603
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Against Women, in

asr-005987
05:21:05.603 --> 05:21:07.646
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: its concluding observations

asr-005988
05:21:07.646 --> 05:21:09.349
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in the

asr-005989
05:21:09.349 --> 05:21:11.653
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ninth Periodic Report of the Philippines

asr-005990
05:21:11.653 --> 05:21:13.456
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in 2023, is to

asr-005991
05:21:13.456 --> 05:21:15.179
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ensure that all in

asr-005992
05:21:15.179 --> 05:21:17.183
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: law

asr-005993
05:21:17.463 --> 05:21:20.008
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: enforcement have training on gender-sensitive

asr-005994
05:21:20.008 --> 05:21:21.750
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: investigation and interrogation.

asr-005995
05:21:21.750 --> 05:21:22.772
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May

asr-005996
05:21:22.772 --> 05:21:25.797
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: we know

asr-005997
05:21:25.797 --> 05:21:27.861
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: if the NBI

asr-005998
05:21:27.861 --> 05:21:29.965
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: has a particular line item for

asr-005999
05:21:29.965 --> 05:21:31.808
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: this? Meron po ba

asr-006000
05:21:32.128 --> 05:21:33.130
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kayong mga training sa

asr-006001
05:21:33.130 --> 05:21:36.095
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtitiyak na hindi

asr-006002
05:21:36.095 --> 05:21:36.696
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lang

asr-006003
05:21:36.696 --> 05:21:39.842
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ang ating Division

asr-006004
05:21:39.842 --> 05:21:41.805
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on Violence Against Women

asr-006005
05:21:41.805 --> 05:21:43.708
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Their Children, pero lahat

asr-006006
05:21:43.708 --> 05:21:45.231
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ng mga

asr-006007
05:21:45.231 --> 05:21:47.314
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagsasagawa ng

asr-006008
05:21:47.515 --> 05:21:49.859
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: interviews, investigation,

asr-006009
05:21:50.780 --> 05:21:51.482
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung

asr-006010
05:21:52.644 --> 05:21:53.565
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: course ng interrogation,

asr-006011
05:21:53.565 --> 05:21:55.388
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mayroong

asr-006012
05:21:55.388 --> 05:21:57.913
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gender-sensitive training

asr-006013
05:21:57.913 --> 05:21:59.836
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or gender-sensitivity training?

asr-006014
05:22:00.657 --> 05:22:01.619
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you,

asr-006015
05:22:01.839 --> 05:22:02.661
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair.

asr-006016
05:22:03.602 --> 05:22:05.706
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Those programs, we included in our program

asr-006017
05:22:05.706 --> 05:22:07.790
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: in GAD so that we can utilize

asr-006018
05:22:07.790 --> 05:22:09.633
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the allocation for

asr-006019
05:22:09.633 --> 05:22:10.675
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that purpose. In

asr-006020
05:22:11.356 --> 05:22:13.800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: addition to that, we have a budget for the academy,

asr-006021
05:22:13.800 --> 05:22:15.182
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and those

asr-006022
05:22:15.182 --> 05:22:17.406
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: who will be entering the academy will

asr-006023
05:22:17.566 --> 05:22:19.189
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: undergo that training as well. And

asr-006024
05:22:19.289 --> 05:22:20.511
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there are a lot of international

asr-006025
05:22:20.511 --> 05:22:23.436
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: trainings that we are sending our

asr-006026
05:22:23.436 --> 05:22:25.280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: agents to in

asr-006027
05:22:25.280 --> 05:22:26.442
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: relation to this

asr-006028
05:22:26.442 --> 05:22:28.405
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: issue.

asr-006029
05:22:29.567 --> 05:22:31.470
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, para lang ba ito doon sa mga

asr-006030
05:22:31.470 --> 05:22:33.674
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa national office? Paano po yung

asr-006031
05:22:33.674 --> 05:22:35.397
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga nasa regions natin?

asr-006032
05:22:35.497 --> 05:22:37.521
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Paano yung pondo nila para diyan?

asr-006033
05:22:37.601 --> 05:22:38.723
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa GAD din po kinukuha?

asr-006034
05:22:39.324 --> 05:22:41.688
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasama po lahat. That applies to

asr-006035
05:22:41.688 --> 05:22:43.210
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: all the members of

asr-006036
05:22:43.210 --> 05:22:45.675
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the National Bureau of

asr-006037
05:22:45.675 --> 05:22:47.598
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Investigation, particularly yung mga

asr-006038
05:22:47.618 --> 05:22:48.479
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: agents po natin.

asr-006039
05:22:49.201 --> 05:22:51.965
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, meron din bang binibigay, halimbawa,

asr-006040
05:22:52.426 --> 05:22:53.107
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga critical

asr-006041
05:22:53.107 --> 05:22:55.672
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: incident stress debriefing

asr-006042
05:22:55.672 --> 05:22:57.595
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po doon sa ating mga

asr-006043
05:22:57.595 --> 05:22:59.378
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: personnel

asr-006044
05:22:59.378 --> 05:23:01.662
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: doon sa ating VAWCD? Kasi po

asr-006045
05:23:01.963 --> 05:23:02.904
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakahalaga niyan.

asr-006046
05:23:03.445 --> 05:23:05.288
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sila po usually, bagama't

asr-006047
05:23:05.288 --> 05:23:07.532
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iyon ang

asr-006048
05:23:07.532 --> 05:23:09.415
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nangyayari, yung mga nakakakuha ng mga

asr-006049
05:23:09.415 --> 05:23:11.259
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: reports—halimbawa, sa

asr-006050
05:23:11.259 --> 05:23:13.583
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: CICC, meron silang hotline, nagre-refer

asr-006051
05:23:13.863 --> 05:23:15.265
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din sila sa NBI for

asr-006052
05:23:15.265 --> 05:23:17.409
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: investigation—pero may mga kababayan

asr-006053
05:23:17.409 --> 05:23:19.573
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din po tayo na dumidiretso na sa

asr-006054
05:23:19.573 --> 05:23:21.376
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: NBI. So yung mga

asr-006055
05:23:21.757 --> 05:23:23.800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: first responders po ba natin sa ating

asr-006056
05:23:23.800 --> 05:23:25.503
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bureau, nakakakuha

asr-006057
05:23:25.503 --> 05:23:27.526
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ganoong tipo ng mga

asr-006058
05:23:27.526 --> 05:23:29.570
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: debriefing sa panahon na sila po ay

asr-006059
05:23:29.570 --> 05:23:31.373
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: humaharap sa ganitong mga tipo ng kaso?

asr-006060
05:23:31.373 --> 05:23:33.397
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, ma'am. We have the AHTRAD,

asr-006061
05:23:33.397 --> 05:23:35.280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the Anti-Human Trafficking Division,

asr-006062
05:23:35.340 --> 05:23:37.584
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and also the VAWCD.

asr-006063
05:23:37.584 --> 05:23:38.706
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Then we have the

asr-006064
05:23:39.207 --> 05:23:40.990
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Behavioral Science Unit also that's

asr-006065
05:23:40.990 --> 05:23:42.713
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: doing that training

asr-006066
05:23:42.713 --> 05:23:44.135
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and the

asr-006067
05:23:44.135 --> 05:23:47.441
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: correspondence. Tuloy-tuloy po iyon.

asr-006068
05:23:47.461 --> 05:23:48.803
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And with

asr-006069
05:23:48.803 --> 05:23:51.067
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the help also of the social workers,

asr-006070
05:23:51.067 --> 05:23:53.271
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: iyon pong aming mga nagiging

asr-006071
05:23:53.271 --> 05:23:55.334
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na-encounter na cases, we

asr-006072
05:23:55.815 --> 05:23:57.278
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: are always in coordination with

asr-006073
05:23:57.278 --> 05:23:59.121
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the social workers po, depending

asr-006074
05:23:59.121 --> 05:24:00.804
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung saang area po iyon, ma'am.

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05:24:01.705 --> 05:24:03.007
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

asr-006076
05:24:03.108 --> 05:24:05.392
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Manghihingi na lang po tayo ng pinakahuling

asr-006077
05:24:05.392 --> 05:24:07.435
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ulat ng mga kaso

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05:24:07.435 --> 05:24:08.797
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakuha ng

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05:24:08.797 --> 05:24:11.542
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: NBI VAWCD, lalong-lalo

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05:24:11.542 --> 05:24:13.265
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na po yung may kinalaman, Mr. Chair, sa

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05:24:13.385 --> 05:24:15.289
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: technology-facilitated gender-based violence

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05:24:15.289 --> 05:24:17.212
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at iba't

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05:24:17.512 --> 05:24:19.576
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ibang cybercrimes

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05:24:19.576 --> 05:24:21.139
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may kinalaman po sa

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05:24:21.139 --> 05:24:23.803
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: karapatan, hindi lang po ng mga kababaihan

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05:24:23.803 --> 05:24:25.626
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ng mga bata, kundi po

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05:24:25.626 --> 05:24:27.670
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano ginagamit yung teknolohiya

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05:24:27.670 --> 05:24:29.733
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa

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05:24:29.733 --> 05:24:31.777
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iba't ibang tipo ng

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05:24:32.578 --> 05:24:33.921
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: krimen. Ngayon naman, Mr.

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05:24:34.141 --> 05:24:35.984
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Chair, sa BuCor po, pahabol ko lang

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05:24:37.487 --> 05:24:38.008
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po. Would it

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05:24:38.008 --> 05:24:39.630
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: be possible to direct

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05:24:39.630 --> 05:24:42.014
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Internal Audit Service

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05:24:42.014 --> 05:24:43.557
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to investigate

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05:24:43.557 --> 05:24:46.021
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: not just the cashless system in CIW

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05:24:46.021 --> 05:24:47.404
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: but in all

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05:24:47.404 --> 05:24:49.567
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: other prison and penal

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05:24:49.567 --> 05:24:51.571
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: farms under the BuCor?

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05:24:52.152 --> 05:24:53.494
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, we are

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05:24:53.494 --> 05:24:55.978
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: already doing it. Pinapa-inventory

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05:24:55.978 --> 05:24:57.802
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ko lahat ng mga

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05:24:57.802 --> 05:24:59.404
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL funds

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05:24:59.404 --> 05:25:00.747
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa lahat ng mga

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05:25:00.747 --> 05:25:03.672
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kolonya. As a matter

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05:25:03.672 --> 05:25:05.755
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of fact, iyon nga po, meron

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05:25:07.097 --> 05:25:07.839
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po kaming kinumpiska

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05:25:07.839 --> 05:25:09.922
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na two million pesos

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05:25:09.922 --> 05:25:12.407
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na hawak-hawak ng

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05:25:12.407 --> 05:25:13.488
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga PDL, and

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05:25:13.488 --> 05:25:14.310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: just

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05:25:14.310 --> 05:25:17.455
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: to make sure na ito ay

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05:25:17.455 --> 05:25:20.020
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magagamit nila

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05:25:20.020 --> 05:25:21.983
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para hindi na po mawala.

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05:25:23.906 --> 05:25:25.569
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, maisasama na ba nila iyan

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05:25:25.569 --> 05:25:27.452
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa isusumite nilang report sa atin

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05:25:27.452 --> 05:25:29.476
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bago ang plenaryo, o mangailangan pa po

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05:25:29.476 --> 05:25:30.618
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mas mahabang panahon?

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05:25:31.079 --> 05:25:33.423
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: We will do it next week.

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05:25:33.423 --> 05:25:35.687
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Isa-submit po namin, Mr. Chair.

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05:25:36.348 --> 05:25:37.430
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Okay. Bukod po diyan,

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05:25:37.630 --> 05:25:39.413
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, hingin na rin po

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05:25:39.413 --> 05:25:42.037
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin kung meron na

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05:25:42.037 --> 05:25:43.680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tayong uniform po ba

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05:25:43.680 --> 05:25:45.904
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or harmonized na governing policy

asr-006126
05:25:45.904 --> 05:25:47.447
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating po sa mga

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05:25:47.447 --> 05:25:49.570
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: cashless systems natin sa

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05:25:49.570 --> 05:25:51.594
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: loob po ng ating mga

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05:25:51.594 --> 05:25:53.237
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prison and penal farms.

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05:25:54.178 --> 05:25:55.340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Chair.

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05:25:55.561 --> 05:25:57.204
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, meron na po kaming

asr-006132
05:25:57.204 --> 05:25:59.608
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: policy guidelines and

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05:25:59.608 --> 05:26:01.771
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: procedures on operations and management

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05:26:01.771 --> 05:26:04.095
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of BuCor's Inmate Post Exchange

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05:26:04.095 --> 05:26:05.758
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: through cashless transaction.

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05:26:06.319 --> 05:26:07.621
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Na-submit na po namin ito sa

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05:26:07.621 --> 05:26:09.084
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: UP Law Center,

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05:26:09.084 --> 05:26:11.809
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and it's now effective,

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05:26:11.809 --> 05:26:13.892
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para sa ganoon

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05:26:13.892 --> 05:26:15.595
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: may prosesong gagawin na

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05:26:15.675 --> 05:26:16.276
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: susundan.

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05:26:16.276 --> 05:26:17.098
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Okay. Maraming salamat

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05:26:17.498 --> 05:26:18.440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po. At sana mabigyan din po

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05:26:18.440 --> 05:26:19.722
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating Committee on Appropriations

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05:26:19.722 --> 05:26:21.826
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng copy niyan. Iyon lamang

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05:26:22.327 --> 05:26:24.270
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ngayon, Mr. Chair. Maraming salamat.

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05:26:24.280 --> 05:26:26.763
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Representative

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05:26:26.763 --> 05:26:28.501
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Sarah Elago.

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05:26:28.501 --> 05:26:30.984
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line

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05:26:30.984 --> 05:26:37.188
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: again. Before that, may we acknowledge the presence

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05:26:37.188 --> 05:26:38.926
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of [unclear],

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05:26:38.926 --> 05:26:42.153
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and briefly our [unclear],

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05:26:42.153 --> 05:26:43.892
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Speaker Bojie

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05:26:43.892 --> 05:26:45.630
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Dy. For

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05:26:45.630 --> 05:26:48.113
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the third round,

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05:26:48.113 --> 05:26:49.852
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kay Representative

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05:26:49.852 --> 05:26:51.590
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Allan Ty.

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05:26:51.590 --> 05:26:53.681
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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05:26:53.681 --> 05:26:54.851
Rep. Allan U. Ty: To the

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05:26:54.851 --> 05:26:56.022
Rep. Allan U. Ty: LRA Administrator:

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05:26:56.022 --> 05:26:58.573
Rep. Allan U. Ty: if the original Friar Land

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05:26:58.573 --> 05:27:00.664
Rep. Allan U. Ty: title was already subdivided

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05:27:00.664 --> 05:27:03.215
Rep. Allan U. Ty: and approved before the original

asr-006164
05:27:03.215 --> 05:27:04.845
Rep. Allan U. Ty: title was lost,

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05:27:04.845 --> 05:27:07.396
Rep. Allan U. Ty: can the approved subdivision plan

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05:27:07.396 --> 05:27:09.027
Rep. Allan U. Ty: and technical descriptions

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05:27:09.027 --> 05:27:11.578
Rep. Allan U. Ty: be used as evidence for

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05:27:11.578 --> 05:27:13.209
Rep. Allan U. Ty: reconstitution and issuance

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05:27:13.209 --> 05:27:15.300
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of resulting titles or

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05:27:15.300 --> 05:27:16.470
Rep. Allan U. Ty: derivative titles?

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05:27:16.480 --> 05:27:18.252
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, under

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05:27:18.252 --> 05:27:19.516
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: R.A. 26,

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05:27:19.516 --> 05:27:21.288
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: as amended by

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05:27:21.288 --> 05:27:23.059
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: R.A. 6732, mayroon

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05:27:23.059 --> 05:27:25.845
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pong listing ng mga documents

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05:27:25.845 --> 05:27:28.124
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: that can be used

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05:27:28.124 --> 05:27:30.403
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: to support iyong ating

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05:27:30.403 --> 05:27:32.175
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: reconstitution. Wala pong

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05:27:32.175 --> 05:27:34.454
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: naka-mention doon na subdivision

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05:27:34.454 --> 05:27:35.718
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: plan po.

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05:27:35.718 --> 05:27:41.439
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So kailangan po ba talaga yung original

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05:27:41.439 --> 05:27:42.470
Rep. Allan U. Ty: title?

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05:27:42.480 --> 05:27:45.018
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Mayroon pong hierarchy. Kapag

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05:27:45.018 --> 05:27:46.640
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: administrative reconstitution, dapat

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05:27:46.640 --> 05:27:48.720
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: na nandoon po yung

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05:27:48.720 --> 05:27:50.343
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: owner's duplicate copy.

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05:27:50.343 --> 05:27:52.423
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Kung wala naman po,

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05:27:52.423 --> 05:27:54.046
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: mayroon pong copy,

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05:27:54.046 --> 05:27:55.669
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: photocopy ng nasa

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05:27:55.669 --> 05:27:57.749
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: mortgagee. Kapag naisanla, iyon

asr-006191
05:27:57.749 --> 05:27:59.371
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pong copy ng

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05:27:59.371 --> 05:28:01.909
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: mortgagee puwede pong gamitin as

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05:28:01.909 --> 05:28:03.532
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: proof of reconstitution.

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05:28:03.532 --> 05:28:06.069
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: There are, I think, five

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05:28:06.069 --> 05:28:07.234
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: copies po

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05:28:07.234 --> 05:28:09.315
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: that are permitted under

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05:28:09.315 --> 05:28:11.395
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the law na puwedeng

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05:28:11.395 --> 05:28:14.390
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: supporting document po sa ating reconstitution.

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05:28:14.390 --> 05:28:15.927
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for Friar Lands

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05:28:15.927 --> 05:28:17.722
Rep. Allan U. Ty: na wala pang na-issue na derivative

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05:28:17.722 --> 05:28:18.230
Rep. Allan U. Ty: titles?

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05:28:18.240 --> 05:28:20.955
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yung pong OCT po

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05:28:20.955 --> 05:28:22.438
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ang kailangang

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05:28:22.438 --> 05:28:23.920
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ma-reconstitute po.

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05:28:23.920 --> 05:28:27.074
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about where there are already

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05:28:27.074 --> 05:28:29.260
Rep. Allan U. Ty: derivative portions of the

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05:28:29.260 --> 05:28:31.447
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Friar Lands—a derivative title

asr-006208
05:28:31.447 --> 05:28:33.633
Rep. Allan U. Ty: has been issued already—and

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05:28:33.633 --> 05:28:35.335
Rep. Allan U. Ty: subsequently the DENR

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05:28:35.335 --> 05:28:38.005
Rep. Allan U. Ty: issued a deed of conveyance?

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05:28:38.005 --> 05:28:39.223
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can the

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05:28:39.223 --> 05:28:40.925
Rep. Allan U. Ty: derivative titles that

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05:28:40.925 --> 05:28:44.079
Rep. Allan U. Ty: have been issued be used as

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05:28:44.079 --> 05:28:46.266
Rep. Allan U. Ty: a basis for issuance

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05:28:46.266 --> 05:28:47.968
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of title to

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05:28:47.968 --> 05:28:49.670
Rep. Allan U. Ty: portions of the

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05:28:49.670 --> 05:28:50.888
Rep. Allan U. Ty: original Friar

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05:28:50.888 --> 05:28:53.558
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Land? Puwede po ba iyon?

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05:28:53.558 --> 05:28:56.335
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We will explore po the possibility

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05:28:56.335 --> 05:28:58.690
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: of making use of the

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05:28:58.690 --> 05:29:00.203
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: derivative titles that

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05:29:00.203 --> 05:29:02.980
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: have been issued already, coming from

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05:29:02.980 --> 05:29:04.914
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the OCT po, kung

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05:29:04.914 --> 05:29:06.428
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: magagawa po ng

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: administrative remedy.

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05:29:07.520 --> 05:29:08.932
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under what particular

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05:29:08.932 --> 05:29:11.120
Rep. Allan U. Ty: law are you referring to?

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05:29:11.120 --> 05:29:13.829
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We will check po, because the

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05:29:13.829 --> 05:29:16.539
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: only existing law when it comes

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05:29:16.539 --> 05:29:18.019
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: to reconstitution is

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05:29:18.019 --> 05:29:19.908
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: R.A. 26, as amended

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05:29:19.908 --> 05:29:21.798
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: by R.A. 6732 po.

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05:29:21.798 --> 05:29:23.976
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So my question now, Mr.

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05:29:23.976 --> 05:29:25.768
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Administrator, is: why should

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05:29:25.768 --> 05:29:27.561
Rep. Allan U. Ty: the loss or deterioration

asr-006236
05:29:27.561 --> 05:29:29.738
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of the original Friar Land

asr-006237
05:29:29.738 --> 05:29:32.302
Rep. Allan U. Ty: title prevent the issuance of titles

asr-006238
05:29:32.302 --> 05:29:34.094
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to subsequent owners when

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05:29:34.094 --> 05:29:36.272
Rep. Allan U. Ty: their respective rights are supported

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05:29:36.272 --> 05:29:37.679
Rep. Allan U. Ty: by a valid

asr-006241
05:29:37.679 --> 05:29:39.857
Rep. Allan U. Ty: deed of conveyance and approved

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05:29:39.857 --> 05:29:40.878
Rep. Allan U. Ty: subdivision documents?

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05:29:40.878 --> 05:29:43.125
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. The law po

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05:29:43.125 --> 05:29:49.863
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: kasi, especially P.D. 1529, requires that the owner's duplicate copy must be surrendered

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05:29:49.863 --> 05:30:04.588
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: po. So that is the problem right now. What should have happened was, when they subdivided the Friar Lands, it should have been totally cancelled already—wala na hong naiiwan—and

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05:30:04.588 --> 05:30:15.819
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the remaining lots that have not yet been awarded should have been issued titles in the name of the Republic para mas

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05:30:15.819 --> 05:30:21.559
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: madali po. What happened right now is that there is partial

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05:30:21.559 --> 05:30:29.296
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: cancellation. So it leaves us with portions of the Friar Land na wala pong titles.

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05:30:29.296 --> 05:30:33.040
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So iyon po ang aming dilemma ngayon.

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05:30:33.040 --> 05:30:36.497
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you say what

asr-006251
05:30:36.497 --> 05:30:43.160
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Registries of Deeds, or what provinces, have Friar Lands problems?

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05:30:43.160 --> 05:30:56.191
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: As far as I recall, Your Honor, the RDs in Cavite—I think there are four Friar Lands in Cavite—and also the RD in Cebu Province. There's

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05:30:56.191 --> 05:31:04.798
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: also one particular RD which I'm aware of where the copy of the OCT has been lost.

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05:31:04.798 --> 05:31:05.489
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So,

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05:31:05.489 --> 05:31:15.008
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Administrator, since you already committed to attend the budget hearing of the DENR on Wednesday, August 26 at 11:00 a.m.,

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05:31:15.008 --> 05:31:22.320
Rep. Allan U. Ty: can you also bring your Registries of Deeds of Cavite to join us in our meeting?

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05:31:22.320 --> 05:31:24.220
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor, I will.

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05:31:24.220 --> 05:31:28.760
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And also, if you would like, I'd also invite the RD from Cebu.

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05:31:28.760 --> 05:31:29.080
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

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05:31:29.080 --> 05:31:31.920
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: There are similar issues concerned.

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05:31:31.920 --> 05:31:32.627
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

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05:31:32.627 --> 05:31:33.792
Rep. Allan U. Ty: That's all, Mr. Chairman.

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05:31:33.792 --> 05:31:34.958
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you very much.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Administrator.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Cong. Allan Ty.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: [unclear] ba natin muna, ah, suspend the hearing briefing po muna.