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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and the resource persons present today.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon, Your Honors.

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Committee Secretary: May we acknowledge the following members.

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Committee Secretary: We have Vice Chair Keith Micah "Mike" Tan,

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Committee Secretary: Vice Chair Gerryboy Espina,

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Committee Secretary: Vice Chair Francisco Matugas,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Solomon Chungalao,

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Committee Secretary: Representative John J.P. Padernos,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Henry Oaminal,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Chel Diokno,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Reynante Michael Tan,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Stephen James Tan.

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Committee Secretary: May we also acknowledge our guests from the Department of Justice.

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Committee Secretary: We have Secretary Fredderick A. Vida,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Garney Candelaria,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Ian Norman Dato,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Majken Anika Gran-Ong,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Margarita Gutierrez,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Deo Marco,

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Committee Secretary: Undersecretary Nicholas Felix Ty,

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Committee Secretary: Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon,

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Committee Secretary: Chief State Counsel Dennis Arvin Chan,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Jose Marino Bernardez of the Witness Protection Program,

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Committee Secretary: Executive Director Hannah Lizette Manalili from the Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking,

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Committee Secretary: Chairman Miguel Gudio Jr. from the Board of Claims,

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Committee Secretary: Director General Gregorio Pio Catapang Jr. from the Bureau of Corrections,

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Committee Secretary: from the Bureau of Immigration, Commissioner Joel Anthony Viado,

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Committee Secretary: from the Land Registration Authority Administrator,

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Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz,

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Committee Secretary: Solicitor General Darlene Marie Berberabe,

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Committee Secretary: Administrator Bienvenido Benitez Jr. from the Parole and Probation Administration,

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Committee Secretary: and Chief Public Attorney Persida V. Rueda-Acosta from the Public Attorney's Office.

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Committee Secretary: That's all.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Honorable members, distinguished colleagues and esteemed guests, good afternoon.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We welcome our guests from the Department of Justice,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: led by Secretary Fredderick A. Vida,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: together with the heads of its attached agencies.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Today, we deliberate on the proposed

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: budget of the Department of Justice

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and its attached agencies for fiscal year 2027

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with a total obligation budget of 46.435 billion pesos,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: inclusive of automatic appropriations.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: This represents only 0.68% of the 7.2 trillion peso national budget

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and is about 2% higher than the previous budget.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: In 2025, the DOJ recorded important operational gains.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The National Prosecution Service handled 428,779 cases and disposed or resolved 395,780, a 99.12% disposition rate, while the prosecution success rate improved to 90.84%. The NBI also conducted 56,212 investigations

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and processed 6.62 million clearance applications.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: While the PCGG reported about 1.57 billion pesos in recoveries

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and income from surrendered or sequestered assets.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: These gains, however, must be sustained amid significant resource pressures.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Under the fiscal year 2027 NEP,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the Bureau of Immigration budget is reduced by 35.8%,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the NBI by 22.3%,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: by 16.3%.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: In DOJ OSEC,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: funding for the

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Special Enforcement and Protection Subprogram

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: is reduced by almost half,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: including lower allocations for anti-trafficking,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: anti-cybercrime,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and OSAEC-CSAEM.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The corrections program also faces a 21.05% reduction,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: including a cut in victims' compensation services

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: from 19 million to 8 million pesos.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: At the same time,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: 68.32% of the Department's

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: fiscal year 2027 budget is for

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: personal services,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: while leaving 24.42% for MOOE

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and only 7.26% for capital outlay.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: The Committee must therefore determine

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: whether the proposed budget can preserve

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the DOJ's 2025 gains

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: while addressing heavy caseloads,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: prison decongestion,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: border control,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: investigative capacity,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: cybercrime and trafficking,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and access to justice.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: We look forward to the Department's

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: clarification of these challenges,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: its priorities for fiscal year 2027,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and the measurable results

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: it expects to deliver

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: with the resources proposed.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Secretary Vida,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Thank you very much.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Congressman Mike Tan,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: thank you very much.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May I proceed?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Good afternoon,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: honorable members of the Committee.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: On behalf of the entire DOJ family,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I am pleased to present to you

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the proposed budget

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for fiscal year 2027

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the Department of Justice,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: including that of its constituent

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and attached agencies.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is based on the President's budget

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or the National Expenditure Program.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With me today are my undersecretaries,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and Assistant Secretaries.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and Assistant Secretaries.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And as earlier mentioned,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and their relevant officers

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and personnel are available.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: These are here this afternoon

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to provide answers or details

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on any query

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that the members of the Committee may raise.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The 10 agencies

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Office of the Solicitor General,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the Bureau of Corrections,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: your honors,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: my colleague,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: S. Gran-Ong, will continue with our presentation.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: You may proceed, Usec.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Good afternoon.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department's overarching framework

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is defined by its core mandate

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to uphold the rule of law

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and serve as the Department's principal law agency.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In pursuit of its vision

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to foster a just and peaceful society

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rooted in transparency,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: accountability,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: fairness, and truth,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department executes its mission,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by delivering an effective,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and equitable administration of justice nationwide.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: administers the criminal justice system

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: through the investigation of crimes,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the prosecution of offenders,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and the administration of the correctional system.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Beyond criminal justice,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department also maintains oversight

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: over immigration,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Above all,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the Department,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: guarantees social justice

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by extending free legal assistance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to our most vulnerable

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: indigent citizens.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In the next few slides, we will highlight

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: some of the key operational accomplishments

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the Department.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Department, through the National Prosecution

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: consistently demonstrated

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: enhanced prosecutorial output

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and case management efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: over the past five years.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 99.12% of legal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: an increase from 99.05%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Relative to our law enforcement

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 32,419 investigations

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: steadily against the full year

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For clearance applications,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the NBI was able to

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: process 99.28%

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of requests within the prescribed time of 10 minutes in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This year, as of the first semester, the NBI has already reached an efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rate of 98.79 percent and may surpass previous year's performance by year end.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: On the other hand, the Bureau of Immigration cleared 99.9 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of foreign arrivals and departures in 2025, which is the same as of the first

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: semester this year. For the first half of this year, the BI already achieved

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 96.02 per cent of intelligence case disposition within 60 days.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This has already exceeded its annual budget target of 95.91 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by 0.51 percent. The BI commits to sustain its performance by year-end.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In terms of Corrections Administration, the average daily number

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: managed and safe-kept by the Bureau of Corrections stood at 52,708 in the first semester,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: down to 53,972 in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This indicates steady progress in prison decongestion.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: PDL engagement in reformation rehabilitation programs rose to 98.60% in the first semester this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from 97.97% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Moreover, client compliance with probation and parole conditions increased to 99.46% in the first half of 2026,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compared to 98.96% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Additionally, participation of probationers and parolees in community-based rehabilitation programs of the PPA

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reached 98.69% in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: And 98.75% in the first semester, but is expected to improve by the end of the year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The performance metrics on this slide shows operational efficiency

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and high client satisfaction in the provision of legal services.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Public Attorney's Office sustained high disposition rates of cases with favorable judgment,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: both in 2025 and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: At the same time, the PAO was able to improve its performance metrics in 2025 and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The PAO was able to achieve high success rates on alternative dispute resolution for the year 2025 at 91.43%.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Office of the Solicitor General acted on 98.3% of the cases it handled in 2025,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which increased to 98.6% in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Across the assessment periods, the agency was also able to act on 100% of petitions for naturalization,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the high-performance results led to excellent satisfaction ratings from their client agencies.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Similarly, from 2025 up to 2026, the Office of the Government Corporate Counsel, or OGCC,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: was able to file 100% of its pleadings within the prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Meanwhile, as of the first semester of this year,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 88% of contracts were reviewed and legal opinions were rendered by the OGCC

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: within the prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: A significant increase of 8% from its accomplishment rate in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: In the case of the Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the agency has surpassed its accomplishments in 2025,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: with 93.94% titles issued and 95.67% of deeds annotated within 20 days from receipt of complete documents.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Meanwhile, the Presidential Commission on Good Government,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: reported around $1.57 billion of recovered amount and proceeds

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: from the administration of fully taken over sequestered assets in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The Commission is expected to remit the same amount to the Treasury by the end of this year.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Lastly, the Office of the Alternative Dispute Resolution continuously advances the use of ADR mechanisms,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: having trained 3,392 practitioners and implementers in 2025.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: It has also acted upon all applications for accreditation and approval of ADR training programs for 2025 and 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Overall, the whole Department remains steadfast and optimistic and sustaining,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: if not surpassing its high performance results.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The total proposed budget of the DOJ, including its constituent and attached agencies for 2027,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amounts to 46.435 billion

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: as compared with fiscal year 2026 approved budget of 45.525 billion.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: As you may note, the DOJ budget for 2027 is retained at 0.64 percent or less than 1 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the published total NEP budget of 7.2 trillion. Overall, for the FY2027 NEP-based budget,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 68.32 percent is for personal services, including salaries and other compensation of employees.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Only 24.42 percent is programmed for maintenance and other operating expenses, while 7.26 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: accounts for the capital outlay of select agencies of the department. The slight increase in the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: overall NEP budget of the DOJ is attributed mainly to the increased funding requirements

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: for personal salaries and other compensation. For 2027, the department-wide budget proposal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amounts to 121.63 billion, but the total budget recommended in the 2027 NEP is only 46.35 billion,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: or only 38.18 percent of the submitted proposed budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This slide shows our comparative budget for 2026 and 2027 by allotment class in millions pesos.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Details of these figures will be shown later. With the permission of the honorable members

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of the committee, please allow me to present the DOJ OSSEC budget in the next several slides.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For 2027, the Office of the Secretary is provided with a total budget of 13.93 billion,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: wherein 70.67% is for PS, 12.47% for MOOE,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 16.86% for CO.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For our law enforcement program, the budget of the National Prosecution Service

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: increased by 7.64%, on the contrary, with substantial reductions in the budgets for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: anti-trafficking in persons, anti-cyber crime, and OSEC-CISCM. The budget for special enforcement and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: sub-program is reduced by almost half in 2027 at 204 million compared to the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: current appropriations of 402 million. For 2027, the target disposition rate of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: criminal complaints handled by the NPS is set at 97 percent. The

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Department, through the Witness Protection Program, aims to act on all

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: applications for witness coverage and that 95.34 percent of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: investigations undertaken by special enforcement units must be completed. The

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: total recommended appropriations for our corrections program in 2027 is reduced

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: by 21.05 percent. Compared to our current year's approved funding, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recommended budget for our pardons and parole services is slightly reduced by

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2.63 percent at 37 million. On the other hand, the recommended budget for victim

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compensation service is cut by more than half from 19 million in 2026 to 8

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: million in 2027. With significantly reduced budgets for next year, the Board

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of Pardons and Parole will ensure that 99.72 percent of appropriations for

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: parole and executive clemency are acted upon and that 100 percent of board

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: resolutions on the grant of parole and executive clemency are issued within the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: prescribed period.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Moreover, the Board of Claims will have to act upon all applications for victim

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: compensation next year. For 2027, the legal staff shall ensure that 97.07

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent of requests for legal services are acted upon with a working budget of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 205 million, which is 4.59 percent higher than the 2026 budget. For attached and

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: constituent agencies, we start with the Bureau of Corrections.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Their 2027 budget, recommended budget, amounts to 11.93 billion, which is 9.66

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent higher than the appropriations of the current year. On average, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Bucor is committed to maintaining safekeep around 56,454 PDLs daily and to ensure that 98.13 percent of PDLs participate in their rehabilitation programs. For the Bureau of Immigration, their 2027 budget is

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recommended budget is 2.98

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion, which is 35.8

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent lower than the 2026 budget. Given this, the BI is set to clear the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: arrival or departure of 99.99 percent of foreign passengers.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Further, the BI needs to dispose, within 60 days, 95.91 percent of their

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: intelligence cases.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Land Registration Authority,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Authority, the 2027 recommended budget amounts to 3.28 billion, which is 13.70 percent higher

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: than the 2.88 billion budget in 2026. Given this, the LRA will be able to provide land

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: registration services. Particularly, the agency shall ensure that at least 93.62 percent of titles

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: will be issued and 95.64 percent of deeds are annotated within 20 days after the submission

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: of complete documents. For the National Bureau of Investigation, their 2027 recommended budget

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: is 22.34 percent lower at 3.03 billion from 3.9 billion in 2026. For that said 2027 budget,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the NBI should be able to process more than 6.6 million clearance

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: applications, of which at least 98 percent should be issued within 10 minutes from receipt of

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: requests. The NBI committed to act upon the conduct and conduct at least 50,000 investigations

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: next year. On behalf of the Government Corporate Council, the 2027 recommended budget amounts

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to 310 million, which is 2.21 percent lower than the 316 million budget in 2026. For the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: next year, the OGCC shall ensure that 100 percent of all court pleadings will be filed

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: within the prescribed period and that 82 percent of all contracts will be reviewed and legal

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: opinions will be rendered within the prescribed period. For the Office of the Solicitor General,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the 2027 recommended budget is increased to 2.14 billion from 1.9 billion this year, with

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: a positive variance of 13.15 percent in their budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The OSG aims to act upon at least 98 percent of referred cases in 2027, out of which 99

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: percent are acted upon within 30 days. For resolution of petitions for naturalization,

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: the OSG intends to resolve 100 percent by the end of the year. For the PPA, the 2027

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: recommended budget amounts to 1.25 billion, which is about 3.61 percent lower than the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 1.3 billion approved budget in 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With their 2027 NEP-based budget, PPA will ensure that 98.96 percent of clients will

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: be compliant with the terms of their probation and or parole conditions, and that 98.69 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: will participate in its rehabilitation programs.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: For the Presidential Commission on Good Government, their recommended budget under the 2027 NEP

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: amounts to 339 million.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: which is 9.35 percent higher than their current-year appropriations of 310 million. For 2027, the PCGG targets at least 846 million of surrendered or sequestered assets to be submitted to the Bureau of the Treasury. For the Public Attorney's Office, its 2027 recommended budget amounts to 7.101 billion, which is

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 6.10 percent higher

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: than its 6.693

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: billion budget for 2026.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With this recommended budget, the PAO will be able to achieve 83.05 percent

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: favorable judgments for its disposed cases, including appeals, in 2027.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: The office will also ensure that all requests for nonjudicial services in 2027 will be acted upon within two hours.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Lastly, for the Office for Alternative Dispute Resolution, the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: 2027 recommended budget amounts to 139 million, which is 16.27 percent lower than its current year's appropriation.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Despite the reduced funding, the OADR will ensure that 1,880 ADR practitioners and implementers will be trained

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: and 100% of applications for accreditation will be acted upon in 2027.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: This concludes our presentation of the 2027 department-wide budget.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: At this point, we are ready to address any questions, comments, or requests for clarification the committee may wish to raise.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: We earnestly seek favorable consideration.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: consideration of our budgets as we continue to effectively and efficiently carry out our

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: mandates and strengthen the delivery of compassionate and humane justice services.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: With your continued support, we remain committed to upholding the rule of law, protecting the

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: rights of our people and the general public, and advancing justice reforms that are responsible

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: to the changing times and the needs of the Filipino people.

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DOJ Undersecretary Majken Anika S. Gran-Ong: Thank you very much for your kind attention.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Usec.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Comsec, please acknowledge our additional members who are present here today.

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Committee Secretary: Additional members present: Representative Ann Matibag, Representative Loreto Amante,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Brian Poe, Representative Jonathan Keith Flores, Representative Reynante Arrogancia,

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Committee Secretary: Representative Renee Co, and Representative Allan Ty.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Comsec.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: May I remind our distinguished colleagues that each member is given five minutes for

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: questioning or interpellation, excluding the response of the research persons.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: And when you hear the bell sound, it means you only have 30 seconds to wind up your questions.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: As part of a longstanding and respected tradition of the House of Representatives to accord

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: preferential treatment to the minority.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: treatment to the minority members of the House, followed by the independent

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and majority members in an alternating manner. The Chair now recognizes from the minority,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Dada Kiram Ismula.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Mr. Chair, excuse me.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Good afternoon.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Yes.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: This is Representative Leila de Lima.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I think you missed my name earlier.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I just want to be registered as present.

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Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Thank you.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Okay.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Hon. Leila de Lima.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Your presence is acknowledged.

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Committee Secretary: Mr. Chair, Akbayan Representative Perci Cendaña is also present.

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Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Representative Cendaña.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: I would like to acknowledge Representative Iris Montes and Representative Sara Jane

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Ilago also.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: So, Representative Dada Ismula, you are now recognized for your interpellation.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Maraming salamat Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um magandang hapon po sa ating mga resource person for today.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um dediretsuhin ko na po kasi may limang minuto lamang kami.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ah Mr. Chair, Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Secretary, thank you for your presentation po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, unang katanungan po, what have been the findings

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: of the DOJ on the reach of nihilistic

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: violent extremism in the Philippines with regards to the school shootings?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Regarding the Tacloban

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: school shooting case in June, may nakasuhan na po

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ba ang may-ari ng baril?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: At ano po ang ginawa ng inyong ahensya para ma-identify

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang different groups po at ang kanilang

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: next moves? Salamat po.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maraming salamat po. Good afternoon everyone.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, very real-time. As of today,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the owner of the gun in the Tacloban shooting—

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: our local prosecutor's office in Tacloban

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: already issued the resolution indicting the

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: owner of the gun for criminal negligence.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: no so uh second

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: findings that are relevant to our law enforcement agencies.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This has been conveyed and relayed to our law enforcement agencies.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Uh meron po kasi tayong nakikita no na pattern.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I think I discussed this in one of the interviews.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Maliban po doon sa mga yung mga naglalaro po yung mga anak natin or yung nagpa-participate

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa games, merong invitation sa kanila to join a separate

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: uh a separate chat room.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung saan ang nakikita po nating pattern, may mga groomers po na tinatawag doon

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: where they are enhanced yung yung level of violence

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung level of getting more points but this is

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: uh on particular details po this is subject of

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ongoing law enforcement activities. But up to that extent,

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I can share with you, with the members of the

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: committee, that definitely there's an issue there

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that we need to work on yung mga tinatawag po nilang groomers no

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na uh the exact the exact

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: extent the exact motivation for these groomers inviting

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung mga ano natin kaya ang appeal nga ho namin sa publiko is

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: let's watch our kids let's watch uh people we love

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah regarding yung sa engagement nila in all these games.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Apparently uh benign walang ano walang ano walang ano but but

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: when they are uh invited into these chat rooms no ah

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: doon na po nag-i-start iyong engagement, and this is really disturbing po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Just a follow-up on that, Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Na-identify na po ba ninyo kung anong groups ito?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Dahil ah nasabi niyo nga po kanina na may mga invitations po na napapadala sa mga chat rooms?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ma'am, if you may, we will just submit a confidential report kasi

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we don't want to stymie any ongoing

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: investigations we're doing and other law enforcement activities we're doing.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Yes, please, Mr. Chair. I would like to receive that report as well, kung okay lang po, Mr. Chair.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission also, the director from the National Bureau of Investigation would add to that.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Good afternoon. May I proceed, Mr. Chair? On that question,

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: uh on Wednesday a group from the Philippines will go also to

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Singapore to talk to the meta officials. It will be composed of the office

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: of the DICT, the uh office of the executive secretary

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: um and uh myself and also a representative from the office of the speaker.

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So this is one of the topics that we will discuss regarding this and in addition

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: to what Secretary Vida mentioned we are on track we are naka-surveillance

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: po kami dito sa sa grupo na to as early as doon sa event nung Tacloban so we

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: we treated it as not an isolated case, but it is designed na

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: ganyan talaga na gagawin nila and we monitor that meron pang mga naka-schedule sila

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na mga [unclear] attacks in the coming months. In fact, there is a group chat na mayroon

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: sila that uh we used to monitor pero nag-disband sila no so ah

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Also, as the Secretary mentioned, we cannot mention all the details because we are

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: on the point of investigating and looking for the principals nitong group na ito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Chair, maraming salamat, Mr. Secretary and to the NBI director.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um isa na lang po para sa follow-up diyan.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kung may na-identify na po kayong mga grupo tungkol dito, maaari ko po

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: bang malaman kung itong mga na-identify ninyong group, mayroon na po

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ba dito sa Pilipinas or nagkukuta na rin po ba sila dito sa Pilipinas?

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Meron po kaming personalities na na-identify at ah we already know

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NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung saan but we have to be certain before we do our reactions. Ano po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po. Maraming salamat po. Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Chair, I just have one more. Ah, Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Secretary, paano niyo nasisiguro na walang religious

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: profiling or double standard sa magiging ganitong

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: insidente lalo na yung nangyari sa Zamboanga City case

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: recently, especially in sensitive cases like this.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Well, the Department of Justice would be consistent with all this.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po ditong labeling, walang ano.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will just look at where the evidence will lead us.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will look at this uh guided by the Lady Blind Justice.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung ano lang po iyong ebidensya.

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala pong dagdag, wala hong kulang doon sa aming gagawin pong imbestigasyon.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana nga po, Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Chair, at gusto ko lamang pong ma-manifest dito na kaming

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: mga Muslim we are against extremism and

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: terrorism influencing our children.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: But we have to ask DOJ on our law

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: enforcement agencies to ensure that religious

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: profiling is avoided as it could also put

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Muslim communities in danger of human rights violation.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Pag Muslim sinasabing terorista pero

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pag Katoliko o iba pang mga relihiyon, hindi sinasabi, di ba?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So sana iniiwasan po natin

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na ma-include yung religion.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Instead of focusing on the religion, let's focus on the problem itself.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Hindi po religion ang problema dito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Anyway, magko-continue po ako, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Nagkaroon po kami ng consultations patungkol sa

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: budget at may mga ilang mga katutubo

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: ang inilapit sa amin ang mga concerns na ito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, may mga reklamo ang ating mga

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: IPs at ICCs na nagkaroon ng

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: overlap ng titles kung saan patuloy pa ring

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: nag-i-issue ang LRA ng transfer certificate of titles.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, kahit sa mga

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: lupang may certificate of ancestral domain titles

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: na in-issue na ng NCIP na nirehistro

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: sa Registry of Deeds.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Unang katanungan po patungkol dito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um ano ang konkretong hakbang o programa ng

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: LRA upang matigil na ang ganitong overlap?

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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission, may I ask Administrator Jerry Sirios to respond?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat, Mr. Chair.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Kami po sa

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: LRA ay kamakailan ay nakipag-ugnayan po

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa National Commission on Indigenous Peoples

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa pangunguna ni Chairperson Catamco, and

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: uh kasama rin nilang nagpunta sa amin nung nakaraang

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: linggo ay ang counterpart nila sa BARMM po.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: I think they have a ministry for indigenous peoples po in the BARMMM region.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So kami po ay nakikipag-ugnayan ngayon

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: at kami po ay bumabalangkas ng isang memorandum

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: of agreement upang maayos po ang registration

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ng mga ini-issue na certificate of ancestral domain

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: title and certificate of ancestral land

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: title sa nasasakupang lugar po nila.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Paano naman po kapag hindi sa BARMM? Other

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: areas that are not in BARMM na nagkakaroon ng problema sa overlapping po?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Kami rin po ay nakikipag-ugnayan

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa, tulad ng nabanggit ko po,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: NCIP and also sa DENR and

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa LMB po upang maiwasan ang overlapping.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ang LRA through the Registry of Deeds ay

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ang huli po sa proseso ng ah issuance ng title.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa amin lang po inirerehistro.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But ang issuance po ng title ay nanggagaling po sa tatlong tanggapan po.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Una, ang DENR sa pamamagitan ng LMB.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Nag-i-issue po ng patents. Pangalawa, sa DAR

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: po na natigil na rin ngayon ang issuance ng mga emancipation patent and CLOA.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And pangatlo po yung NCIP tulad ng

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: nabanggit ko kanina po at ang ikaapat ang judicial titling process.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: kung saan dumadaan sa ating mga korte at kami ay dina-direct upang makipag

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ah makapag-issue ng isang decree at ng titulo.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Pero sa lahat ng proseso po ng pagtitulo, ang LRA po sa

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pamamagitan ng RD ang huling ahensya po na humahawak sa titulo.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige follow up question po Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mayroon po ba kayong specific program diyan sa LRA para tugunan ang ganitong

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: problema at kung sakaling mayroon, magkano naman po ang allocation ninyo sa NEP?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa kasalukuyan po, kami po ay nakikipag-ugnayan tulad ng nabanggit ko. Pero ang solusyon po nito ay ang

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pagkakaroon po ng mga ah applications, programs na makakatulong upang maiwasan ang overlapping.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa kasalukuyan, mayroon po tayong ine-evaluate na public-private partnership, subalit

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: nasa proseso kami ng negotiations. But maliban po

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: dito kami po ay masusing nakikipag-usap na ho sa ibang ahensya upang mailatag

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: po namin yung iba't ibang titles na nai-issue na at malaman kung ano-ano ang mga meron pong overlapping.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sige po, Mr. Chair.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Um, aware po kayo sa JAO No. 1?

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Tama po ba?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Opo.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ano pong definition nitong JAO No. 1?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Iyong pong JAO, naabutan ko po ito.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ito po ay interagency issuance po.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Patungkol po ito, kung hindi po ako nagkakamali, dito po

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: sa DAR sa DAR kung saan

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: nagkaroon ng ah

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ugnayan para makapag-issue po ng mga

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: titulo ho sa ilalim ng DAR.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. Linawin ko lang, ang JAO No. 1 ay ito iyong mga ahensya na involved patungkol sa

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: pagbibigay ng titulo sa mga lupain. Kasama na diyan ang NCIP, DENR, DAR, at ang alam ko po ay kasama rin ang LRA dito.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay. Now, follow-up question po. Ano po iyong ginagawa ninyo kasalukuyan diyan bilang parte po kayo ng JAO para masiguro na hindi na nagkakaroon ng overlapping dahil itong tatlong ahensya ay hindi nagkakasundo?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Iyong pong JAO No. 1, lumabas po doon ang NCIP. Nagkaroon po tayo ng panibagong pag-uusap sa ilalim ng leadership ng dati nating kalihim ng Katarungan.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Nagkaroon ho ng ugnayan dito pero hindi ho nagbunga sa panibagong usapin ano ho but sa kasalukuyan tinutuloy po namin ang usapin para magkaroon tayo ng konkretong aksyon o policy regarding po itong overlapping of titles po.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Mr. Chair, sana nga po magkaroon kayo ng commitment. Kung maaari, ma-commit ninyo rin po ngayon na sana ipagpatuloy

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: natin iyong pag-coordinate dito sa mga ahensyang ito, nang sa gayon, pagdating po diyan sa LRA, wala na po siyang problema.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: So anyway, dadako naman po ako kasi may 30 seconds na lang po ako. Dadako ako sa isa pang katanungan.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Noong July 16, 2026, nakipagpulong po sa inyo si Datu Rolando Anglao ng Manobo Pulangiyon in Bukidnon.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ayon sa kanyang pagkaunawa, kayang ilabas ng inyong tanggapan ang

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: certificate of no overlap o CNO para sa CADT 261 ng Manobo Pulangiyon sa loob ng buwang ito.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Batid nating malinis na ang lots 1 at 2 at ang tanging hinahabol ng NCIP ay ang maisama ang lot 3 upang mabuo na ang 1,111 ektarya ng kanilang ancestral domain.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Kaya ba ninyong i-issue ang CNO ngayong buwan?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ang lilinawin ko lang po, iyong certificate of lot status po, mayroon po kaming dependency rin po sa DENR.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Assuming po na makapagbigay po sa amin ng hinihiling naming mga technical description or records from DENR, maaari po naming mailabas iyan.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Ibig sabihin po, kaya ninyong maibigay ngayong buwan?

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Pipilitin po natin.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Okay po. Sige po. At sana nga po, Mr.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Chair ma-providan niyo rin po kami ng update

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: patungkol diyan kasi last ah budget cycle pa po yan namin fina-follow up.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Sana nga po ay maka-receive kami.

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Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula: Anyway, Mr. Chair, maraming salamat po.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Rep. Ismula.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Reminder lang iyong mga reports po na hinihingi po ni Representative Ismula.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kindly furnish the committee and her office po of the report po.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the majority, Representative J.P. Padernos.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Magandang hapon po sa inyong lahat sa ating Department of Justice,

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: headed by our Secretary Vida, and all attached agencies.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Magandang hapon po.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, magtatanong lang po ako per agency para mas concrete.

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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I'll start with the Bureau of Corrections.

699
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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Is DG Katapang here?

700
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Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ayan.

701
00:48:27,220 --> 00:48:36,640
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I want to discuss yung facility decongestion and regionalization program ng DOJ.

702
00:48:37,630 --> 00:48:43,830
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Pangangailangan po kasi ng BUCOR ang humigit kumulang 55 billion para sa regional facilities,

703
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:54,610
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: pero 676 million lang po ang capital outlay nito habang nasa 387% ang overcrowding sa NBP.

704
00:48:54,610 --> 00:48:56,580
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Sa ganitong pondo, paano po?

705
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,430
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Maabot ang target na full closure ng NBP by 2028?

706
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:06,220
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, Congressman Padernos,

707
00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:11,200
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nabigyan naman po kami ng pondo ng ating gobyerno.

708
00:49:12,020 --> 00:49:16,330
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag pinagsama-sama, simula ng 2022 hanggang ngayon,

709
00:49:16,330 --> 00:49:24,330
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sama pa rin yung hopefully maipasa po yung 472 capital outlay for the...

710
00:49:26,910 --> 00:49:29,430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: maximum security sa [unclear].

711
00:49:30,090 --> 00:49:33,010
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag sinama-sama po yun, more than 5 billion po yun.

712
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:43,800
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At ang capacity po na mangyayari na madadagdag is 11,390 additional PDL capacity.

713
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:51,800
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So itong 2025, nadagdagan tayo ng capacity na 1,000.

714
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,690
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2026, 2005.

715
00:49:55,070 --> 00:49:56,790
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2027, 6,000.

716
00:49:56,890 --> 00:49:57,430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 210.

717
00:49:58,070 --> 00:49:59,950
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And 2028, 1,600.

718
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:09,870
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Alam po namin na hindi po kayang ibigay lahat ang kailangan namin para lang ma-address yung decongestion.

719
00:50:10,670 --> 00:50:19,780
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero ang maganda pong nangyayari, nire-repair po namin yung mga sira naming kulungan at nakakatulong po.

720
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:23,760
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang report po na sinasite nyo is yung last year pa po yan.

721
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,540
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero ngayon, sa NBP po,

722
00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:34,440
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: from 350%, ngayon po, 180% na lang ang congestion.

723
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:36,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, kaya nga po,

724
00:50:36,990 --> 00:50:42,630
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iniimbitahan namin kayo para makita nyo kung saan na pupunta yung sinusuporta nyo sa amin.

725
00:50:42,990 --> 00:50:47,210
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And surely, we will also look for other ways.

726
00:50:47,410 --> 00:50:50,670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yung aming property po dito sa New Bilibid Prison,

727
00:50:50,670 --> 00:50:58,220
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Muntinlupa, humihingi po kami ng permission na ipa-lease na.

728
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:06,240
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi po, yung Muntinlupa po, it should be repurposed.

729
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,720
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Napaikutan na po kami ng mga first-class subdivision.

730
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:17,710
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, ang inisip namin ay gamitin ito for better use para tumakbo ang economy.

731
00:51:17,710 --> 00:51:28,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And hopefully, may mga targets kaming ine-expect na kung mapapa-lease namin ito for the next five years, makaka-generate kami ng 8 billion.

732
00:51:28,830 --> 00:51:32,570
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, yung po, ang ginagawa namin.

733
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:38,040
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Alam po namin na hindi kaya ng ating gobyerno ibigay lahat ang kailangan ng Bucor.

734
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,580
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero, I think we are doing our best.

735
00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:48,040
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: For the past four years, we have already turned around the congestion problem in Bucor.

736
00:51:49,590 --> 00:51:52,450
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, napakagandang balita po niyan.

737
00:51:52,580 --> 00:51:56,160
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So, can you repeat lang, DG Katapang?

738
00:51:56,350 --> 00:51:57,750
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Yung from...

739
00:51:58,330 --> 00:51:58,800
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ilan po?

740
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,590
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: From 387% overcrowding, nasa 187 na lang po?

741
00:52:04,620 --> 00:52:06,120
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo, sa NBP po.

742
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,050
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi, kailangan po talagang dahan-dahanin ko na ang paglipat.

743
00:52:11,050 --> 00:52:17,430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, yung mga napagawa naman natin na outside Metro Manila, doon po sila nililipat.

744
00:52:18,190 --> 00:52:26,000
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, but overall, sa buong pagsamasamahin lahat yung ating mga kulungan, 204 na lang po ang congestion rate.

745
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Sana lang po, Mr.

746
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,250
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, tulad po nang nabanggit ko last year sa ating budget deliberation,

747
00:52:33,810 --> 00:52:44,620
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: let's keep in mind lang po sana yung mga pamilya na siyempre karamihan naman po ng mga nade-detain is from NCR.

748
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:51,690
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So, sana po hindi sila ma-displace in other parts of the country, especially yung sa Palawan po.

749
00:52:51,790 --> 00:52:54,990
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Diba, papunta na po doon yung main facility.

750
00:52:54,990 --> 00:52:57,990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kamakailan po, binigyan po kami ni Governor Umali

751
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,840
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dito po sa Nueva Ecija

752
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:12,650
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng 60 hectares. Doon po namin ililipat yung reception and diagnostic center.

753
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:22,460
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At yung po rin magiging mga tiga Metro Manila, north of Metro Manila, yung po ang aming target na magiging kulungan nila.

754
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:26,340
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then south of Metro Manila, meron po kami tinitignan na property.

755
00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:30,510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Magsaswapping po kami ng isang institusyon.

756
00:53:30,610 --> 00:53:37,600
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May lupa raw sila sa Laguna ng mga 8,000 hectares na hindi naman nila masyadong ginagamit.

757
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:44,880
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And in exchange, bibigyan po namin sila ng 500 hectares sa Palawan para itayo yung kanilang eskwelahan sa Palawan.

758
00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:53,330
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, pag nangyari po yun, lahat ng tiga Luzon ay hindi na maililipat sa outside Luzon.

759
00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:55,570
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yung mga tiga Luzon, sa Luzon ang makakukulong.

760
00:53:55,570 --> 00:54:04,460
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then lately rin po, yung nakita rin namin na mas marami pa lang tiga Cebu ang mga nakukulong sa Bisaya.

761
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:12,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, we are also coordinating with the governor, the good governor, na bigyan din po kami ng kulungan doon sa lugar

762
00:54:12,590 --> 00:54:19,800
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para yung tuloy-tuloy po natin magiging regionalization yung ating mga PDL.

763
00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:20,860
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Salamat po.

764
00:54:21,090 --> 00:54:22,990
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Maraming salamat po, DG Katapang.

765
00:54:22,990 --> 00:54:23,590
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair.

766
00:54:23,590 --> 00:54:33,010
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Napansin ko po doon sa report kanina ng ating department, mostly yung kanilang performance indicators,

767
00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:39,380
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: but wala po dito yung utilization po ng budget from last year.

768
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:52,490
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So, maybe we can request our department or the DOJ to provide committee the utilization po ng budget.

769
00:54:53,650 --> 00:54:55,030
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: As of today po.

770
00:54:56,660 --> 00:55:01,930
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: If it is available, please furnish Representative Padernos and a copy to the committee.

771
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, we will furnish, Your Honor.

772
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, if I may add lang, doon sa decongestion.

773
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:10,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dalwa ho to, lutong bibingka.

774
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:14,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang isa ho yung nagdadagdag tayo ng facilities, no?

775
00:55:14,850 --> 00:55:18,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Basically, ang isa pa rin ho, pinabibilis din natin yung release natin.

776
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:23,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Na nagawa na po natin ng medyo maganda na po ang proseso natin.

777
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Lalo na po yung mga may GCTA nating mga...

778
00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:30,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Alam naman po natin yung mga kababayan na natin na naligaw ng landas.

779
00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:34,390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero lahat naman po may opportunity ng second chance.

780
00:55:34,590 --> 00:55:40,370
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag naka-comply na ho sila doon sa requirements ng batas, mag-comply sila sa GCTA,

781
00:55:40,990 --> 00:55:45,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: buong yabang din ho namin pinagmamalaki na ang BUCOR po,

782
00:55:46,340 --> 00:55:50,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kakibat ang PAO, kakibat po yung ating PPA,

783
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakapagpa-release na ho tayo ng...

784
00:55:52,920 --> 00:56:00,390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: From 2022, 32,932 PDLs.

785
00:56:00,730 --> 00:56:03,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So kasama po nito, mas mabilis na po natin na pro-proseso.

786
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Gumamit na rin po tayo dito ng teknolohiya, no?

787
00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:12,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So ngayon yung mga karpeta, wala na ho yung pagala-gala o nawawalang karpeta.

788
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,250
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ngayon ho sa BUCOR, lahat po, bago pa lang sila pumasok,

789
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:20,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: naka-digitize na ho. May redundancy plan na ho tayo

790
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:22,810
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na hindi mawawala yung karpeta.

791
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:26,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po, mas na-anticipate na natin.

792
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:31,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At tumataas din yung pag-asa ng ating mga kapatid na nakakulong

793
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na pag ako'y nagbait dito sa loob, makakalaya na ako sa ganitong panahon.

794
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:41,170
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, ano ho, dalawang inisyatibo ho,

795
00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:44,450
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: padamihin yung regional prisons facility natin

796
00:56:44,450 --> 00:56:49,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at ang isa, pabilisin din yung releases natin dun sa qualified na po.

797
00:56:49,570 --> 00:56:52,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi po, ang ayaw po natin ay yung nakakulong,

798
00:56:52,980 --> 00:56:55,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakakakuha lang ng abogado ang nare-release.

799
00:56:55,940 --> 00:56:59,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dahil sila lang yung nakakapag-file ng writ of habeas corpus.

800
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po, sa ngayon ho, updated po yung ating releases.

801
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:08,570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang target po ng DOJ diyan ay not a day longer.

802
00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:13,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Not a day longer if, of course, it's not a perfect system.

803
00:57:13,450 --> 00:57:16,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We're working on it, we're striving hard para po,

804
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:19,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: not a day longer yung ating pong mga kapatid na PDLs.

805
00:57:19,660 --> 00:57:22,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ang dahilan kaya 180% po.

806
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: As of this time po, pero we're working hard para po

807
00:57:26,490 --> 00:57:30,670
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: makamit natin yung ideal number po para sa ating mga nakakulong.

808
00:57:31,690 --> 00:57:33,070
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

809
00:57:34,270 --> 00:57:38,600
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: For my next question is on, with regard to the ano po,

810
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:45,570
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I'd also like to request from the DOJ yung ating vacancies in every department,

811
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:47,830
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: every agencies, attached agencies,

812
00:57:47,830 --> 00:57:52,620
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: para po malaman natin saan po ba kailangan na lagyan ng,

813
00:57:53,300 --> 00:57:55,470
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: ano po yung mga open for applications.

814
00:57:55,690 --> 00:57:57,330
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Kasi may plantilya na po yung mga yan,

815
00:57:57,690 --> 00:58:01,050
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: sayang naman po kung hindi ma-fill up yung ating vacancies.

816
00:58:01,590 --> 00:58:05,020
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mayroon po ba tayong brief report on our vacancies?

817
00:58:13,060 --> 00:58:15,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will submit a comprehensive report,

818
00:58:15,220 --> 00:58:16,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: but as a summary, Your Honor,

819
00:58:17,660 --> 00:58:23,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: out of the 7,651 authorized plantilya positions

820
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the Office of the Secretary, that's the Department of Justice,

821
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we have 6,145 filled up.

822
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And 1,506 unfilled positions.

823
00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:43,070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, and we would also be happy to report to you na,

824
00:58:43,450 --> 00:58:45,490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung nag-start po ng administration na to,

825
00:58:45,590 --> 00:58:47,930
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: especially po yung mga presidential appointees,

826
00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:52,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we started with a timeline na almost 2 years, yung mga piskal po natin.

827
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:56,810
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Now, with cooperation with DBM and the Office of the President,

828
00:58:56,810 --> 00:59:00,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na-shorten na po natin to 4 to 5 months po,

829
00:59:00,490 --> 00:59:03,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung mga piskal po natin, yung mga prosecutor positions.

830
00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:06,630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we're also happy to report to this committee

831
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:09,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that since the start of this administration,

832
00:59:10,530 --> 00:59:14,370
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from 2,966 prosecutorial position,

833
00:59:15,210 --> 00:59:19,290
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the DBM has created additional 1,002.

834
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:24,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, we're now 3,968 prosecutorial positions.

835
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And ang take-up po nito sa public, maganda po.

836
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Meron po kaming mga posisyon, mga Your Honors,

837
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:33,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: isang posisyon, 103 applicants.

838
00:59:33,260 --> 00:59:38,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, we're able to recruit, hopefully, the best and the brightest

839
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:44,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from those in the legal sector so that they join the workforce po

840
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:46,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng ating National Prosecution Service.

841
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,760
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

842
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:55,030
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Gusto ko lang din pong i-discuss yung ating mga petition for review under the DOJ

843
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:57,480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: kasi based on my experience,

844
00:59:57,540 --> 01:00:07,360
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: my experience even before when I was practicing, dun po talaga nagkakaroon ng parang patong-patong

845
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:14,480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: na kaso. Ano na po bang status doon and paano po na-address ngayon ng ating bagong

846
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,950
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: kalihim itong problema na to po?

847
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:30,590
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, when I assumed as acting secretary November 11, sometime in this year po, early

848
01:00:30,590 --> 01:00:37,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: this year, I issued a department circular. Pag nakita ninyo po yung docket namin, total po iyan ng

849
01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:44,530
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 27,000 sa Office of the Secretary, petitions for review, starting as old as panahon pa po

850
01:00:44,530 --> 01:00:46,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ni Secretary Raul Gonzalez.

851
01:00:47,130 --> 01:00:48,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So what happens?

852
01:00:48,450 --> 01:00:56,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: What I did, I issued the department circular. So commencing po November 12, 2025, all petitions

853
01:00:56,310 --> 01:01:02,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for review filed starting November 12, I have delegated, I've given authority to all the

854
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:09,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: undersecretaries to review them and to ensure na 100% ang clearance rate. Ang nakikita po

855
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:15,490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: namin, Your Honors, around 200 per week po yung nagpe-petition for review. So around 800

856
01:01:15,490 --> 01:01:17,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: per month. With eight undersecretaries.

857
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:25,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang mandate ko po sa kanila is hopefully we clear everything that goes in starting November

858
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:31,570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 11. Naka-delegate na po sa undersecretaries. Ano naman po ang gagawin ni Secretary ng department

859
01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:39,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for those pending November 11 and prior years. So nag-cut off po kami ng January 1, 2022-November 11, 2025.

860
01:01:40,350 --> 01:01:47,200
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: November 11, 2025. Yan po yung nasa opisina ko and I have certain task forces helping me

861
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:47,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: out.

862
01:01:48,020 --> 01:01:53,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: On that, para po ma-resolve siya, ma-resolve siya, different reviewing legal teams po.

863
01:01:54,510 --> 01:02:04,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And so far po, from those pending from 2020 to 2025, that's around 16,000. That's around

864
01:02:04,990 --> 01:02:13,070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 16,000 po cases. My office has resolved almost 500 na po thus far. But we continue the work.

865
01:02:13,070 --> 01:02:14,130
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We continue the work.

866
01:02:15,340 --> 01:02:17,680
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For the older ones, yung prior to 2020.

867
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:26,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We also have a... We also issued publications to litigants who are parties to those petitions

868
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:34,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for review and we've asked them, basically, to confirm or not to confirm yung interest

869
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:41,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sila on those cases yet. And hopefully, by end of this quarter, Your Honors, no? And

870
01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:46,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we will gladly share with the committee how we are moving forward with all these cases.

871
01:02:47,050 --> 01:02:54,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is basically po, ang tawag nga po sa mga practitioner dyan, pag pumasok daw sa DOJ, parang black hole.

872
01:02:55,130 --> 01:02:58,110
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hindi na alam kung ano yung nangyari ng petition for review.

873
01:02:58,110 --> 01:03:04,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But we're trying to address this because this is a check and balance mechanism sa mga field offices po natin.

874
01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:08,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For everyone's information, we have 250 offices nationwide.

875
01:03:09,330 --> 01:03:15,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung city prosecutor's office, provincial prosecutor's office, regional prosecutor's office.

876
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:21,440
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And also the office of the Secretary of Justice Prosecutorial Service, which is in Padre Faura.

877
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,560
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of all this, the litigant has a remedy going to the Secretary of Justice.

878
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:32,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we're trying to put up a system here so that we resolve them in time.

879
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:38,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The problem po is, based on time and motion, talaga pong may challenge ang Department of Justice.

880
01:03:38,740 --> 01:03:43,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But we cannot naman prohibit filing of these petitions for review.

881
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:45,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So it's basically...

882
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:52,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It's basically driven din po from the litigants po na nagpa-file ng petitions sa amin.

883
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:56,630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But I think, Your Honor, we're in the right direction.

884
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:02,290
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hopefully, we improve as the months, as the days go by.

885
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

886
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:04,980
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

887
01:04:06,820 --> 01:04:12,710
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Pasadaan ko lang po sa ating Bureau of Immigration naman on the status of our e-gates and modernization.

888
01:04:13,270 --> 01:04:14,700
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ilang e-gates na po bang...

889
01:04:15,180 --> 01:04:20,840
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ang fully operational ngayon sa Naia, Clark, Mactan, Cebu, at Davao.

890
01:04:21,310 --> 01:04:27,510
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Anong procurement status po nung natitirang units for Phase 1, 1.976 billion,

891
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:30,810
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: at Phase 2, 1.347 billion?

892
01:04:31,490 --> 01:04:37,320
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: May service level agreement po standards ba tayo sa IT providers natin pag nagka-downtime?

893
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,920
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: At nakasingil na po ba tayo ng penalties laban sa mga kontraktor?

894
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:43,300
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, sir.

895
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,370
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Magandang hapon po.

896
01:04:44,570 --> 01:04:49,310
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Mr. Chairman and Congressman Padernos and Honorable Members of the House of Representatives.

897
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:53,490
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating po sa e-gates po natin, sa Terminal 1 po,

898
01:04:54,190 --> 01:05:01,450
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang total po currently is 18, 12 para sa arrival, at for departure, 6 na e-gates po.

899
01:05:01,930 --> 01:05:07,040
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Para naman po sa T3, ang arrival po, meron pong tatlumpu, or 30.

900
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa departure po, tatlumpu rin po, or 30.

901
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:14,410
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So ang total po sa Terminals 1 and 3 is 78.

902
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:23,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po sa Cebu International—Clark, I'm sorry po—Clark International Airport, meron pong tatlo.

903
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,390
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Dito naman po sa Mactan Cebu, tatlong rin po.

904
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,410
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sa Davao International Airport, dalawa po.

905
01:05:31,490 --> 01:05:42,390
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So yun po ang total number po ng e-gates po natin, not only sa T1 and T3, but sa ibang international airports po, sa labas po ng Metro Manila.

906
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:44,400
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon, pagdating naman po sa...

907
01:05:44,860 --> 01:05:48,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: status po nung ating e-gates project,

908
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:57,730
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yun pong sa Phase 1, na awarded po nung 2025, 1.5 billion po yun.

909
01:05:58,330 --> 01:06:01,170
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Continuing po ang aming procurement, Your Honor.

910
01:06:01,570 --> 01:06:05,430
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nakatipid po tayo doon sa intended budget na 1.9 billion, ng 400 million.

911
01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:09,070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po sa Phase 2 po ng proyekto,

912
01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:14,610
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang terms of reference po para dito sa Phase 2 ng proyekto, worth 1.3 billion,

913
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,480
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: underway na po sa Departamento.

914
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The Department of Justice, yung pong listahan po ng mga terms of reference.

915
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:25,460
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po sa Phase 3, 565 million po yun.

916
01:06:26,090 --> 01:06:32,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang commitment po namin, at we're on track, na on budget po for 2025, meron po kaming catch-up plan,

917
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:36,200
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: magiging fully obligated na po by November 2026.

918
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,220
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasama na po dyan yung sa e-gates Phase 1 project.

919
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:46,930
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At ang Phase 2 po ng e-gates project, worth 1.3 billion, magiging fully obligated na rin po by November.

920
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:52,210
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As a matter of fact, Your Honor, we have been conducting weekly meetings

921
01:06:52,210 --> 01:06:58,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para po malaman ng ahensya kung ano na po ang status ng ating proyekto.

922
01:06:59,850 --> 01:07:03,570
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Pagdating naman po, Your Honor, sa service agreements, meron po tayong service agreements,

923
01:07:03,690 --> 01:07:05,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but those are constantly under review.

924
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:20,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kasama po sa service agreements, hinihingi po namin ng commitment sa mapuprovide po dito ng mga kumpanya, Your Honors.

925
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:27,730
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Follow-up question lang po.

926
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:31,770
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So okay na po lahat. So kailan po matatapos yung Phase 2?

927
01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:38,350
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang Phase 2 po, matatapos po by November 2026. Fully obligated na po yan by that time.

928
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:43,070
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: So I'd just like to commend, Mr. Chair, yung efforts po ng ating Bureau of Immigration.

929
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:50,060
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: If you notice, ating mga kababayan, mas mabilis na ngayon yung proseso pag nasa airport.

930
01:07:50,060 --> 01:07:53,050
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Of course, with their partnership also with...

931
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:55,660
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Airport operator.

932
01:07:56,300 --> 01:08:00,940
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Sa ano naman po ako, sa PCGG po. Saan po ba ang PCGG?

933
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,430
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Nandiyan po ba ang PCGG?

934
01:08:05,010 --> 01:08:05,230
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ayan.

935
01:08:05,230 --> 01:08:05,400
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Justice.

936
01:08:06,090 --> 01:08:06,670
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Justice po.

937
01:08:06,670 --> 01:08:13,790
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Mr. Chair, gusto ko lang po sanang itanong. What is the current budget vis-a-vis total remittance of PCGG?

938
01:08:13,790 --> 01:08:16,990
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: And with that contribution, they have a specific...

939
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:25,650
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Does PCGG have a specific proposal which will not entail additional funding from Congress?

940
01:08:28,060 --> 01:08:36,800
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Mr. Chair, members of the committee, thank you for this opportunity.

941
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:54,290
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: Just for historical context, your honors, in the past 40 years, the PCGG has recovered a total amount of 183 billion in cash,

942
01:08:54,290 --> 01:08:57,210
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: 125 billion in assets.

943
01:08:57,270 --> 01:09:09,080
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: And as of now, during the current administration, the PCGG was able to recover

944
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:20,770
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: 8.3 billion worth of assets. As far as budget is concerned, historically, the budget of

945
01:09:20,770 --> 01:09:28,520
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: the PCGG has always been below 200 million. So, given that we have already, that it has

946
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:38,410
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: remitted 8.3 billion during the current administration, I would say that the budget of PCGG was really

947
01:09:38,410 --> 01:09:43,410
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: given us good returns.

948
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,600
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Maraming salamat po. Meron pa po kayong maidadagdag?

949
01:09:52,740 --> 01:09:58,890
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: The additional funding from Congress.

950
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:59,490
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ano po iyon?

951
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:13,630
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: We have a bigger budget now, Your Honors, because PCGG will start paying rent for office

952
01:10:13,630 --> 01:10:21,680
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: space. Because before, our office space was free. As one of the conditions, when we sold

953
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:28,270
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: an asset, which is in front of Mega Mall along EDSA, we sold that for 800 million pesos.

954
01:10:28,270 --> 01:10:35,670
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: And the buyer was San Miguel. And they have a building, which we are now occupying, and

955
01:10:35,670 --> 01:10:39,450
PCGG Chairperson Melchor Quirino C. Sadang: they gave us a part of the building for occupation.

956
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:47,160
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Quick manifestation na lang, Mr. Chair. So, base naman po sa report

957
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:54,280
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: ng ating DOJ, res ipsa loquitur. The numbers speak for themselves. Case disposition rate

958
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,330
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: po, napakataas, 99%.

959
01:10:56,490 --> 01:11:05,210
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Ang success rate nila ng prosecution, also 90 plus percent. And lahat po ng ating mga

960
01:11:05,210 --> 01:11:14,480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: performance indicators, it would appear na the DOJ is really doing their job and exceeding

961
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:22,710
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: our expectation. So, with that said, I would like to manifest my full support for the proposed

962
01:11:22,710 --> 01:11:26,320
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: budget. Actually, edit po natin yan.

963
01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:33,650
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: I manifest that not just my full support for the proposed budget of the Department of

964
01:11:33,650 --> 01:11:40,520
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Justice, but also the increase of its budget, especially for the NBI and BI, kasi nakita ko

965
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:48,480
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: po ang NBI at BI, 33 percent and 27 percent decrease. Meron po ba tayong brief lang na

966
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:56,050
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: explanation kung bakit po nabawasan ng sobrang taas yung dalawang agencies na yan? But with

967
01:11:56,050 --> 01:11:58,020
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: that said, yun lang po, Mr. Chair.

968
01:11:59,660 --> 01:12:08,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I believe this would be relative to the absorptive capacity ng agency. This was, of course, this

969
01:12:08,910 --> 01:12:13,570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is the DBM's call, no? But it was assessed by the DBM yung absorptive capacity of the

970
01:12:13,570 --> 01:12:19,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: two agencies. That's why we have catch-up plans for 2026, so that they are able to cope

971
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:24,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the budget releases for the two respective agencies. But thank you very much, Your Honor,

972
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the support.

973
01:12:25,530 --> 01:12:26,310
Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

974
01:12:26,510 --> 01:12:33,550
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Representative Padernos. And may we direct the ComSec to acknowledge additional

975
01:12:33,550 --> 01:12:35,960
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: members who are present?

976
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:45,580
Committee Secretary: Additional members present: Representative Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr., Representative Alyssa Michaela "Mica" Gonzales,

977
01:12:45,580 --> 01:12:52,030
Committee Secretary: Representative Robert Nazal, Representative Ma. Cristina Talavera-Lopez, Representative Salvador

978
01:12:52,030 --> 01:12:55,830
Committee Secretary: Pleyto, Representative Katrina Reiko Chua-Tai,

979
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:56,860
Committee Secretary: Representative Ferdinand Hernandez.

980
01:12:56,860 --> 01:12:59,940
Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

981
01:13:00,580 --> 01:13:06,770
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you. Next in line to interpellate from the minority, Representative Chel Diokno.

982
01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:14,180
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Maraming salamat po, Chair Mike, at magandang hapon po sa DOJ family.

983
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:20,820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Sisimulan ko po sa isang letter C. Hindi po ito Chel, kundi corruption ang dapat nating

984
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: pag-usapan.

985
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:27,380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I noticed that there was a recent article attributed to the DOJ.

986
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: which stated that the over 841 million pesos

987
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:39,140
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay naibalik na sa ating treasury from flood control projects.

988
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:45,500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Mula sa apat na nasangkot sa flood control cases na naging state witness,

989
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:52,420
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I think this would refer to Henry Alcantara, former USEC Bernardo, 500 million,

990
01:13:52,440 --> 01:14:02,380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Henry Alcantara, 181 million, Engineer Opulencia, 140 million, and Sally Santos, 20 million.

991
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Una ko pong tanong kay Secretary Vida, good morning po.

992
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,290
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Voluntary po itong pagbabalik nila?

993
01:14:09,310 --> 01:14:11,080
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo, voluntary po ito.

994
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:16,900
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Meron bang na-file na mga forfeiture cases against any of these four individuals

995
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: to ensure na baka naman meron pa silang tinatago na hindi pa nila binibigay

996
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,550
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: o binabalik sa gobyerno?

997
01:14:24,570 --> 01:14:30,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, kaakibat po ito sa kondisyon nung kanilang pagpasok bilang state witness, Your Honor.

998
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At sa ngayon nga po, nagagamit sila ngayon ng Office of the Ombudsman

999
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:42,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa patuloy na paglilitis ng mga kasong nakasalang ngayon sa Sandiganbayan at sa RTC.

1000
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:47,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po ang patuloy nilang pagganap dun sa terms and conditions

1001
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng kanilang pagiging state witness, ito po ang kabahagi nun.

1002
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

1003
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Did you rely just on their word, or did you also

1004
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:02,540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: coordinate with AMLA, get bank secrecy waivers, and do other checking

1005
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:08,220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: para masiguro natin na lahat ng sinasabi nilang ibinalik ay yun na po yun?

1006
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:14,820
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang naging estratehiya po niyan para makita po yung mga commitment nilang amounts,

1007
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:22,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: tandaan po natin, paalala lang po pala, yung pagiging state witness nila ay case-specific lang ho.

1008
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya yung kanilang immunity, dun sa kasong yun lang ho.

1009
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:33,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya yung may disclosure sila na sila kesyo ay may kinita dun sa project na yun,

1010
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yun lamang po sila absuwelto.

1011
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:41,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po pag may nadiskubre ang Office of the Ombudsman, ang DOJ, o kung ano mang ahensya,

1012
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na ibang bagay na sila'y sangkot pa rin, hindi ho yun saklaw.

1013
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po ang atin po, tinakda po natin yung pagtatalaga nung amount na to,

1014
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:55,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nagsimula pa po ito panahon ni Secretary, now Ombudsman, Boying Remulla,

1015
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na project-specific lang.

1016
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:03,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sinabi nyo lang na kayo ay sangkot at kayo ay involved,

1017
01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:07,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pero yung immunity mo, dun lang sa particular na project na yun.

1018
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya pag may nakita po tayo, tingin ko ho, protektado ang bayan dito.

1019
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:15,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag may nakita ho tayo sa apat na to, sa kanilang apat na individual,

1020
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:20,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na walang disclosure o may tinago sa atin, pwede pa ho natin silang habulin dun.

1021
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, iba po yung sa pananaw ng Office of the Ombudsman.

1022
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Iba pong usapin.

1023
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa amin po, yung pagiging state witness sila under the Witness Protection Program.

1024
01:16:29,660 --> 01:16:31,820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you, Secretary Vida.

1025
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:38,140
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Doon sa very impressive yung inyong report, lalong-lalo na yung tinatawag ninyong

1026
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,700
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: prosecutorial success rate, or PSR,

1027
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:46,100
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: na ngayon na taon na ito, o 2025, ay nasa 90.8%.

1028
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:54,620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Do you have a figure for your PSR for graft and corruption cases?

1029
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:55,300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kasi yun na yun po

1030
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ang tinututukan ng taong bayan ngayon.

1031
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Gusto naming malaman kung yung mga graft and corruption cases ba

1032
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: nabibigyan ng top priority ng ating pamahalaan.

1033
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:11,440
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Karamihan ba ng mga nasasangkot ay nakakasuhan at nako-convict?

1034
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:18,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo, opo, Your Honor. We need to disaggregate our data, yung available po sa amin.

1035
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:23,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we will submit to the committee, Your Honors, if you may.

1036
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need to disaggregate yung data namin.

1037
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And of course, this data doesn't involve cases handled by the Office of the Ombudsman.

1038
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:31,780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Yes.

1039
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: In fact, I'll go back to that point later.

1040
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:41,140
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: But I'm just curious, because in 2022, when Secretary, now Ombudsman, Remulla

1041
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: occupied the Office of Secretary of Justice,

1042
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:49,420
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: nabanggit niya na ang conviction rate, hindi po ito PSR, kundi conviction rate,

1043
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay nasa 25% lang.

1044
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: In fact, he expressed dismay over it.

1045
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:55,340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Now,

1046
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: your figure of 90% is very impressive,

1047
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:04,220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: but it may give the wrong impression to the public

1048
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: that we have already overcome our issues with convictions.

1049
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:15,500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: So, may I know, does the DOJ keep a separate tab on conviction rate aside from PSR?

1050
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:20,580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: O na-abandonan po ninyo yan?

1051
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, hindi po namin.

1052
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: The prosecution success rate, mix po ito.

1053
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:35,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung conviction ng kaso, kasama na rin po dito yung tinatawag po na nagkaroon po ng compromise agreement.

1054
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:42,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And based on that compromise, nagkaroon pa rin ng hatol yung husgado sa isang particular na kaso.

1055
01:18:42,440 --> 01:18:44,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung pumapasok.

1056
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:51,260
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero batid po namin, yung 20%, if I recall it right, that would be more particular po.

1057
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:57,060
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung frustration po ni Secretary Boying at the time was more in the drug cases.

1058
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:11,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung after po, yung after nung 2022, na lumabas na po yung mga tunay na proseso na kahit fiscal ka o judge ka,

1059
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:19,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na nag-dismiss ka ng kaso base sa ebidensya, hindi ka li-labelan na protector ng droga.

1060
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:24,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tapos, ang isa pa rin ho, ito po yung pagtataas namin nung antas, yung from probable cause,

1061
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:29,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: tinaas po ng DOJ, yung antas po ng ebidensya na kailangan natin ngayon,

1062
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:35,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung prima facie evidence with reasonable certainty of conviction.

1063
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:45,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang isa pong nakikita naming ehemplo dito ay yung sa, pag nakita po natin yung mga sa United States po,

1064
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang taas po ng kanilang plea bargaining.

1065
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:54,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dahil pag plea bargaining, mas mabilis po ang proseso, mas maliit ang resources ng gobyerno.

1066
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, dahil matitibay yung kasong fina-file.

1067
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:05,120
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we see ho the benefit now of our case buildup, Your Honors, with the data we're getting.

1068
01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:12,340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Tama po ba, Secretary Vida, na pagdating sa prosecutorial success rate,

1069
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: hindi po kasama doon sa computation yung mga nadi-dismiss na kaso

1070
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:21,220
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: dahil let's say, hindi dumating yung mga testigo, let's say drug case,

1071
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: yung mga pulis na dapat humarap ay hindi humarap,

1072
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: kaya nadismiss na agad ang kaso.

1073
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,810
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Is that captured by the PSR?

1074
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:46,730
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Is that captured?

1075
01:20:48,220 --> 01:20:49,820
DOJ representative: Not captured in the data.

1076
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,250
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need to check. We will submit, Your Honor.

1077
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:57,200
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Well, yeah, yeah.

1078
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:01,180
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kasi the data would seem to be parang...

1079
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kaya ako po tinatanong yung, Secretary,

1080
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:09,300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay dahil sa experience ko, hindi lang sa drug cases, pati na rin sa corruption cases.

1081
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Yung isang lusot na ginagamit ng mga corrupt at ng

1082
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:19,940
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: mga criminal, ay they will influence, intimidate, or purchase the witnesses for the prosecution,

1083
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,180
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: hindi na sila haharap, at kung hindi naka-capture yan ng PSR,

1084
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:28,340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: then malaking bagay po iyon na hindi natin namo-monitor,

1085
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:33,710
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: which I think is very important for the DOJ to monitor.

1086
01:21:33,730 --> 01:21:35,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Completely agree with that, Your Honor.

1087
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will do that, Your Honor.

1088
01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:39,060
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

1089
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,740
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I think I have a minute and 18 seconds left.

1090
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,420
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Nabanggit niyo kanina na hindi lang naman ninyo trabaho yung anti-corruption,

1091
01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:48,340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: and tama-tama po kayo doon.

1092
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:54,540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: It's also the job of the Office of the Ombudsman, as well as the Anti-Money Laundering Council, among others.

1093
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,500
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kayo po ba ay nag-uusap?

1094
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:05,580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Do you have a coordination committee or anything like that that discusses, for example, budget that all of you need,

1095
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:10,620
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: that discusses things that are needed by the government,

1096
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:11,700
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: beyond yung particular...

1097
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,900
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: department po ninyo, DOJ?

1098
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: What we have now, our engagement with the Office of the Ombudsman,

1099
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,500
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is an existing memorandum of agreement

1100
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: relative to investigation of cases and filing of cases

1101
01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:29,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for those salary grade 27 and above

1102
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the Office of the Ombudsman and those below

1103
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to be handled by the Department of Justice.

1104
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,620
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang isa pa ho naming engagement with the Office of the Ombudsman now is

1105
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:44,340
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the possibility of coming up with a code on anti-corruption.

1106
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:52,300
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This would basically be seeing the learnings that we saw in the recent past,

1107
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:58,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kung paano natin talaga mas mapapatibay yung mga batas natin on anti-corruption.

1108
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,020
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We have an ongoing engagement on that.

1109
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We have a technical working group, Your Honors,

1110
01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:07,980
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on possibly doing work on possible legislation

1111
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on coming up with a code on anti-corruption, Your Honors.

1112
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,020
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: So bale, sa kasalukuyan ay ad hoc lang po

1113
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ang pakikipag-usap ninyo ng AMLA at ng OMB.

1114
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:25,860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kaya ako tinatanong yan, because way back in, I think it was 2006,

1115
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:32,300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: I was informed, I learned that there was a study made of the corruption cases

1116
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: that went through the Sandiganbayan, at ang nalaman po nila noon

1117
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:43,300
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: ay out of 110 persons convicted of graft and corruption cases,

1118
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:51,340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: sa sampu lang, only 10 were found to have been actually inside the jail serving their sentence.

1119
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:56,380
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Ito po yung mga convicted of graft and corruption by final judgment.

1120
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:01,860
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Now, is there, to your knowledge, may I just finish my question, Mr. Chair?

1121
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: To your knowledge, is there any centralized system or database

1122
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:14,100
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: of the government that is there to keep track na kung yung isang tao ay na-convict ng graft and corruption?

1123
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:23,540
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kahit sabihin natin, ibang mga criminal cases, at in-appeal niya yung kanyang conviction,

1124
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:29,820
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: later na-affirm yung kanyang conviction, namu-monitor ba natin kung talagang nakukulong yung nakonvict?

1125
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:35,660
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Kaya ako po, let me just finish. The reason I ask is because not one agency can keep track of this.

1126
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:43,660
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Hindi kaya ng DOJ yan, hindi kaya ng Ombudsman, hindi kaya ng NBP or ng ating nasa DILG.

1127
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:49,780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: So, shouldn't there be a consolidated effort by our government?

1128
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:56,780
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Because sayang naman yung milyong-milyones na ginagastos niyo pang-prosecute ng isang tao kung hindi naman pala nakukulong?

1129
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:57,340
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Hindi po ba?

1130
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:04,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, I completely agree po. Sa particular directive or legal framework should be brought out

1131
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:12,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that those... I completely agree, Your Honor. Ang isa po namin, from our end, which I've initiated po,

1132
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:23,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we just had a meeting with my regional prosecutors and si PG Dong, is basically to monitor yung mga sinampahan namin ng kaso,

1133
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:32,940
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: alin yung mga naka-archive doon, dahil at large yung mga akusado. That's something we can look within the DOJ.

1134
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:37,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya po, nasa poder ko po yun. Pero I completely agree with you, Your Honor.

1135
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:45,420
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need to look at yung mga convictions, kung sino talaga yung nahatulan ng sentensya at nakakulong.

1136
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:52,580
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you so much, Secretary Vida. Sana kayo po ang maging pambato nitong talagang kinakailangan natin pagdating sa corruption.

1137
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,160
Rep. Jose Manuel Tadeo "Chel" I. Diokno: Thank you so much, Chair Mike.

1138
01:25:55,180 --> 01:26:02,000
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po, Representative Chel Diokno. Next in line from the majority, Representative Brian Poe.

1139
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:11,270
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'd like to start with some questions for the NBI.

1140
01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:26,060
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, I want to ask the NBI, if the NBI has any funding for representatives or attaches in embassies abroad.

1141
01:26:26,060 --> 01:26:34,510
Rep. Brian Poe: Based on RA 10867, Section 7F, the NBI is allowed to have an attaché or representative.

1142
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:41,900
Rep. Brian Poe: However, the funding, according to the law, must come from the NBI.

1143
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:47,180
Rep. Brian Poe: I want to ask if in this year's budget, is there an allocation for the NBI?

1144
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:57,740
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Wala po. And I'm very thankful that you raised that issue because that is one of the future plans that the NBI is looking at,

1145
01:26:57,740 --> 01:27:02,430
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that we put NBI attachés in at least yung selected po muna na mga areas.

1146
01:27:02,430 --> 01:27:04,310
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Because dito po sa atin, sa Pilipinas.

1147
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:11,830
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yung mga embassies from Europe and the U.S. Embassy itself, meron po silang mga counterparts.

1148
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:14,650
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: It's been helping us to address transnational crimes.

1149
01:27:14,650 --> 01:27:17,470
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So thank you for raising that issue.

1150
01:27:17,470 --> 01:27:22,170
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And kasama po sana sa wish list namin iyan na mapalagay po.

1151
01:27:22,170 --> 01:27:27,810
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And I'll take advantage also to request because we want to increase the number of agents.

1152
01:27:27,810 --> 01:27:31,560
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Because if we will comply with that, we need additional agents.

1153
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:36,260
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Right now, for the benefit of this committee po and everybody,

1154
01:27:36,260 --> 01:27:43,780
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I'd like to tell you that ang NBI agents po namin sa buong Pilipinas is only about 300 persons lang po.

1155
01:27:45,660 --> 01:27:50,580
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, this is quite alarming, no?

1156
01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:59,430
Rep. Brian Poe: Na our NBI doesn't have funding for any international agents or representatives to be attached to any of our embassies.

1157
01:27:59,430 --> 01:28:01,390
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, if I could remind the committee.

1158
01:28:01,390 --> 01:28:05,330
Rep. Brian Poe: If I could remind the committee of all the responsibilities of the NBI going after

1159
01:28:05,330 --> 01:28:12,210
Rep. Brian Poe: POGOs, scam networks, cyber fraud, online gambling, Interpol cases, human trafficking,

1160
01:28:12,210 --> 01:28:16,150
Rep. Brian Poe: online sexual exploitation of children, the list goes on.

1161
01:28:16,150 --> 01:28:22,050
Rep. Brian Poe: And yet we haven't given a single centavo for a single attaché representative abroad.

1162
01:28:22,050 --> 01:28:25,000
Rep. Brian Poe: That's absolutely ridiculous, Mr. Chair.

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:30,900
Rep. Brian Poe: And I feel that it's something that we should look into as we continue on this.

1164
01:28:30,900 --> 01:28:34,830
Rep. Brian Poe: This deliberation on the appropriations for the Department of Justice.

1165
01:28:34,830 --> 01:28:42,700
Rep. Brian Poe: Because, as our colleague here Representative Chel Diokno was saying about accountability and investigation,

1166
01:28:42,700 --> 01:28:50,560
Rep. Brian Poe: how are we supposed to go after international fugitives if we don't even have funding for NBI representatives abroad?

1167
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:56,460
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, I feel that this is one thing that we should take into consideration for this budget season.

1168
01:28:56,460 --> 01:28:59,410
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you, NBI Director po.

1169
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:09,250
Rep. Brian Poe: Next is I'd like to ask about what we're doing for our kababayans who don't have access to legal aid.

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01:29:09,250 --> 01:29:16,130
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe meron tayong, and we were able to fund it last year, I believe, around 8 million pesos more or less

1171
01:29:16,130 --> 01:29:22,030
Rep. Brian Poe: for the DOJ Action Center or yung tinatawag natin Katarungan Caravan.

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01:29:22,030 --> 01:29:29,900
Rep. Brian Poe: Based on my numbers, and correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Secretary, you're currently at around 15,000 people who have been

1173
01:29:29,900 --> 01:29:31,870
Rep. Brian Poe: served so far in 2026.

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01:29:31,870 --> 01:29:37,770
Rep. Brian Poe: This is well on its way to surpassing the numbers from last year of 25,000 served.

1175
01:29:37,770 --> 01:29:38,750
Rep. Brian Poe: Is this correct?

1176
01:29:39,730 --> 01:29:41,700
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor.

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01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:44,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Basically, this is the access to legal services.

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01:29:44,660 --> 01:29:52,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But of course, the primary agency is the Public Attorney's Office, na nagpapasalamat kami.

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01:29:52,550 --> 01:29:56,490
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero nakita po natin kasi yung puwang sa serbisyo.

1180
01:29:56,900 --> 01:30:06,170
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At siguro, ang lagi ko hong binibigay niyan—I was interviewed—bakit naging verb yung Tulfo?

1181
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:14,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Ipapa-Tulfo kita.' And I give credit to the Tulfo siblings kasi meron pong kulang na serbisyo.

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01:30:14,740 --> 01:30:21,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At ito po yung pilit na pinupunuan. Kabahagi po dito yung DOJ Katarungan Caravan.

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01:30:21,470 --> 01:30:30,740
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa atin pong pag-ikot sa buong Pilipinas para ilapit yung serbisyo on legal services sa ating mga kababayan,

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01:30:30,860 --> 01:30:34,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakita natin na meron talagang puwang na pwedeng punuan.

1185
01:30:35,290 --> 01:30:42,180
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero para ho maging resilient at saka maging permanent po yung sistema ng serbisyo,

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01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:49,850
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang plano po natin ay, maliban na lang siya na parang ad hoc o task force, yung DOJ Katarungan Caravan

1187
01:30:49,850 --> 01:30:53,220
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: maging permanente ito sa bawat opisina ng DOJ.

1188
01:30:53,930 --> 01:31:00,360
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung sa ating 250 prosecutorial offices nationwide na na-establish.

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01:31:00,500 --> 01:31:06,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang pinipilit po namin ngayon ay mag-set up kami ng protocols on this legal service

1190
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:12,960
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para po yung bawat opisina sa bawat probinsya, sa bawat city at sa bawat region

1191
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:18,240
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay may madudulugan na yung ating mga kababayan. Yung serbisyo,

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01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:20,650
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung puwang na iyon na free legal service.

1193
01:31:21,340 --> 01:31:24,650
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya nga po sa pagdedesign namin ng mga opisina ngayon, Your Honor,

1194
01:31:25,230 --> 01:31:31,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pinipilit namin na kasama natin sa design yung DOJ Action Center

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01:31:31,790 --> 01:31:37,140
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or ang gusto nga ho namin sanang matawag ito ay para ho may ownership yung mga kababayan natin

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01:31:37,140 --> 01:31:40,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay DOJ Katarungan Office o DOJKO.

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01:31:40,900 --> 01:31:44,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi sa dulo po itong serbisyong ito sa kababayan naman natin ito

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01:31:44,910 --> 01:31:47,530
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para ho mas mapalapit natin yung serbisyo, Your Honor.

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Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair,

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01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,680
Rep. Brian Poe: I was asking about this program kasi para sa mga kababayan natin,

1201
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,270
Rep. Brian Poe: malaking gastos po to go to their lawyers,

1202
01:31:59,460 --> 01:32:04,000
Rep. Brian Poe: to go to centers of commerce where they can access legal services.

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01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,800
Rep. Brian Poe: Kaya maganda yung programa ng DOJ and the fact that the DOJ, I believe,

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01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,000
Rep. Brian Poe: has opened around nine new Katarungan regional centers.

1205
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,320
Rep. Brian Poe: Are we going to be opening more in the years to come?

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01:32:16,390 --> 01:32:18,020
Rep. Brian Poe: Do we have funding for this, Secretary?

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01:32:18,440 --> 01:32:19,000
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

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01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:20,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: This is part.

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01:32:20,350 --> 01:32:25,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, yung ating optimization plan for the Department of Justice

1210
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:30,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that it's rather than a secretary-initiated program,

1211
01:32:31,150 --> 01:32:34,460
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: inilatag na po namin ito sa DBM

1212
01:32:34,460 --> 01:32:40,540
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the optimization plan for the Department of Justice

1213
01:32:40,540 --> 01:32:45,970
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para may kaukulang plantilya, may kaukulang resources

1214
01:32:45,970 --> 01:32:49,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: para nga po yung 250 field offices natin

1215
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: magkaroon po ng ganitong serbisyo.

1216
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,400
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, the reason why I'm bringing this up also is

1217
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,450
Rep. Brian Poe: because with such a limited budget of only around 8 million pesos

1218
01:32:58,450 --> 01:33:00,120
Rep. Brian Poe: under the office of the Secretary

1219
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:04,170
Rep. Brian Poe: for the Katarungan Caravan and the DOJ Action Center,

1220
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,180
Rep. Brian Poe: they've been able to help more than 15,000 people as of date now.

1221
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:12,150
Rep. Brian Poe: They're on track to help more than 25,000 people by the end of the year.

1222
01:33:12,490 --> 01:33:14,180
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, you realize that per person,

1223
01:33:14,180 --> 01:33:16,060
Rep. Brian Poe: that means that the government is only,

1224
01:33:16,060 --> 01:33:20,170
Rep. Brian Poe: spending about 250 to 300 pesos per person for legal assistance.

1225
01:33:20,390 --> 01:33:24,770
Rep. Brian Poe: The average lawyer would charge you more than 1,000 to 3,000 pesos an hour.

1226
01:33:25,410 --> 01:33:28,850
Rep. Brian Poe: The government is doing good for the people with such a limited fund.

1227
01:33:29,140 --> 01:33:31,010
Rep. Brian Poe: I'm hoping that in this year's budget,

1228
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,930
Rep. Brian Poe: we will be able to increase the Secretary's capability

1229
01:33:33,930 --> 01:33:35,880
Rep. Brian Poe: to touch base with the poorest of the poor

1230
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,500
Rep. Brian Poe: and help them with legal services.

1231
01:33:37,980 --> 01:33:38,940
Rep. Brian Poe: And with that, Mr. Chair,

1232
01:33:38,940 --> 01:33:42,510
Rep. Brian Poe: I only have one last set of questions.

1233
01:33:42,790 --> 01:33:44,570
Rep. Brian Poe: I have a question for the Public Attorney's Office.

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01:33:44,570 --> 01:33:46,360
Rep. Brian Poe: So, for PAO.

1235
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:50,810
Rep. Brian Poe: For PAO, this is really the bedrock of our public service.

1236
01:33:50,810 --> 01:33:55,270
Rep. Brian Poe: I believe currently our goal is one attorney, one court.

1237
01:33:55,270 --> 01:34:06,880
Rep. Brian Poe: Are we able to uphold that with our current budget?

1238
01:34:16,570 --> 01:34:19,560
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Thank you for your question, Mr. Chair.

1239
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,560
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have now some district offices

1240
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,550
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: which I can deploy one-to-one per court,

1241
01:34:27,550 --> 01:34:29,550
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: but we're still lacking,

1242
01:34:29,550 --> 01:34:32,540
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because PAO doesn't handle only criminal cases.

1243
01:34:32,540 --> 01:34:33,540
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have labor cases.

1244
01:34:33,540 --> 01:34:38,530
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have counterparts also served by the Office of the Solicitor General.

1245
01:34:38,530 --> 01:34:41,520
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have preliminary investigation cases.

1246
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:46,510
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we are asking for additional 559 items.

1247
01:34:46,510 --> 01:34:51,500
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we hope the son of my friend, Senator Grace Poe,

1248
01:34:51,500 --> 01:34:56,490
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: will request the august halls of Congress

1249
01:34:56,490 --> 01:34:58,490
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: to fulfill this deficiency.

1250
01:34:58,490 --> 01:35:01,480
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we are very supportive of the Katarungan Caravan

1251
01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:03,480
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because we're sending lawyers to assist

1252
01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:06,480
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: our honorable Undersecretary Margarita Gutierrez,

1253
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:09,470
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: who happened to be my student at Ateneo Law School

1254
01:35:09,470 --> 01:35:12,460
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: and one of my best students.

1255
01:35:12,460 --> 01:35:19,450
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: So, we are requesting that this hall will insert this deficiency

1256
01:35:19,450 --> 01:35:24,440
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because we have not only two agencies which are our counterparts,

1257
01:35:24,440 --> 01:35:28,430
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: OSG, NPS, but also the private practitioners

1258
01:35:28,430 --> 01:35:30,430
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: who are worthy opponents of PAO.

1259
01:35:30,430 --> 01:35:34,420
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And I'm very happy that the question was propounded today.

1260
01:35:34,420 --> 01:35:35,420
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Thank you.

1261
01:35:35,780 --> 01:35:36,760
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you.

1262
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,730
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, the reason why I asked about that

1263
01:35:38,730 --> 01:35:42,670
Rep. Brian Poe: is because PAO's budget for fiscal year 2026

1264
01:35:42,670 --> 01:35:45,620
Rep. Brian Poe: was 6.6 billion, more or less.

1265
01:35:45,620 --> 01:35:48,570
Rep. Brian Poe: This year, in the NEP, it's 7.1 billion.

1266
01:35:48,570 --> 01:35:51,520
Rep. Brian Poe: There's an increase of about 400 million pesos.

1267
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,470
Rep. Brian Poe: Is this for the items that you requested?

1268
01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:57,340
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: I'm sorry, sir.

1269
01:35:57,340 --> 01:36:00,200
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That's not the purpose of those increases.

1270
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,050
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: But the mandatory increases of SSL VI,

1271
01:36:03,050 --> 01:36:05,910
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: also, I think there are...

1272
01:36:07,810 --> 01:36:13,470
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: for the lawyers in addition to the 87 lawyers that were included last year.

1273
01:36:13,470 --> 01:36:18,230
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: So, these are not new creations but past creations by the DBM.

1274
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,220
Rep. Brian Poe: So, it's just funding for your past creations?

1275
01:36:21,220 --> 01:36:22,330
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, deficiencies, Your Honor.

1276
01:36:22,330 --> 01:36:23,450
Rep. Brian Poe: Ah, okay.

1277
01:36:23,450 --> 01:36:25,680
Rep. Brian Poe: So, that's why there's an increase of 400 million?

1278
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:26,650
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

1279
01:36:26,650 --> 01:36:30,510
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Because the salary now of our lawyers being hired

1280
01:36:30,510 --> 01:36:33,400
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: is at par with the new prosecutors,

1281
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,330
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: around six digits per month

1282
01:36:35,330 --> 01:36:38,230
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: because of the number of cases we're handling.

1283
01:36:38,230 --> 01:36:40,160
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: In fact, we're happy to tell you that we have served

1284
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,090
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 16 million Filipino people last year.

1285
01:36:42,090 --> 01:36:48,850
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And now, about, I think, 6 million Filipino people as of June.

1286
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,580
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, the reason why I'm asking

1287
01:36:51,580 --> 01:36:53,570
Rep. Brian Poe: whether or not there's sufficient funding,

1288
01:36:53,570 --> 01:36:55,550
Rep. Brian Poe: if we're asking for additional items pa,

1289
01:36:55,550 --> 01:36:59,520
Rep. Brian Poe: kulang pa itong budget na nakita natin sa NEP, no?

1290
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,510
Rep. Brian Poe: We actually need to increase it.

1291
01:37:01,510 --> 01:37:06,470
Rep. Brian Poe: Hopefully, and I do hope that the PAO is able to assign more

1292
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:11,430
Rep. Brian Poe: to the Katarungan Caravan and to our outreach services through the DOJ.

1293
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:13,420
Rep. Brian Poe: Hopefully, yung mga additional items po natin

1294
01:37:13,420 --> 01:37:19,370
Rep. Brian Poe: can be assigned to grassroots work na kailangan na kailangan na mga kababayan natin.

1295
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,960
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor, we commit to that.

1296
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,960
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And we are also serving the DMW.

1297
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,970
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: And the OWWA.

1298
01:37:26,970 --> 01:37:29,970
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Because we are called upon by these two departments and agencies

1299
01:37:29,970 --> 01:37:33,970
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: to assist our OFWs abroad, personally by our PAO lawyers.

1300
01:37:34,410 --> 01:37:39,280
Rep. Brian Poe: Nako, Mr. Chair, I'm so happy to hear that PAO is going to be working closely

1301
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:44,160
Rep. Brian Poe: with the DOJAC to be able to provide more for kababayans with legal assistance.

1302
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,080
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, I just want to reiterate my support

1303
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,010
Rep. Brian Poe: for the budget of the Department of Justice.

1304
01:37:50,010 --> 01:37:53,910
Rep. Brian Poe: I feel that this is one of the ways that we can really make our presence felt.

1305
01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:55,860
Rep. Brian Poe: Para sa mga kababayan natin.

1306
01:37:55,860 --> 01:37:58,780
Rep. Brian Poe: Through their legal aid, legal services,

1307
01:37:58,780 --> 01:38:01,700
Rep. Brian Poe: and through the protection of our mga kababayan

1308
01:38:01,700 --> 01:38:06,580
Rep. Brian Poe: who are affected by scams, fraud, sexual violence, etc.

1309
01:38:06,580 --> 01:38:10,480
Rep. Brian Poe: Mr. Chair, with that being said, I also want to point out that

1310
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:14,380
Rep. Brian Poe: I'm glad that I'm able to work with PAO in this capacity

1311
01:38:14,380 --> 01:38:19,250
Rep. Brian Poe: because once upon a time, I was a reporter in her office back in 2013.

1312
01:38:19,250 --> 01:38:22,180
Rep. Brian Poe: So it's good to see that she hasn't given up her drive for public service.

1313
01:38:23,150 --> 01:38:25,100
Rep. Brian Poe: Thank you.

1314
01:38:26,770 --> 01:38:30,280
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you po, Representative Brian Poe.

1315
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:34,670
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line, from the minority, Representative Renee Louise Co.

1316
01:38:36,946 --> 01:38:40,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1317
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: here today. At gusto ko lang din pong mag-take off sa

1318
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: line of questioning that was already established no iyung

1319
01:38:48,239 --> 01:38:52,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: essentially paano natin na-insensure naba-balance nabibilang

1320
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:56,550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung convictions given iyung mga cases that we've filed.

1321
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: No, we note that may bagong evidentiary standard for

1322
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:03,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: prosecutors since 2024. dati probable cause

1323
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dapat yung um evidentially threshold bago

1324
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dumulog sa korte yung kaso pero ngayon it's reasonable certainty

1325
01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:15,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of conviction and tama po ba ah kasi this was in your press release

1326
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:19,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: as well this was changed because of longstanding

1327
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: challenges in the justice system iyung weak cases that overburden

1328
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,980
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: trials and erode public trust. Is this correct?

1329
01:39:28,398 --> 01:39:33,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo. Maraming salamat po sa katanungan. your honor. Ah, tama po kayo na ang

1330
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:37,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: layunin po nito ay para bago magsampa ng kaso ang sinumang

1331
01:39:37,719 --> 01:39:42,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: fiscal sa Pilipinas, ibig sabihin handa na ang prosecution.

1332
01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:46,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: handa ng prosecution na manalo. At may isa pa hong kadahilanan dito.

1333
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:51,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang napansin po kasi natin sa nakaraang kasaysayan natin about

1334
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:55,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: filing cases sa mga may kakayanang kasing kumuha ng

1335
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:00,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: abogado dahil probable cause yung ano pwede kang maging biktima

1336
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:05,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lang ng pagfa-file ng maraming kaso. Pero dahil dito po sa

1337
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:10,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mas may wider latitude ang ating mga fiskal, ang ating mga prosecutors

1338
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DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to fully assess na ang isasampalang kaso ay yung kayang

1339
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:18,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ipanalo or malamang mananalo sa korte.

1340
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:23,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hindi ngayon nagiging game kasi ang napakahirap po ngayon ay yung kumuha ng abogado.

1341
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:28,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Mahal po kumuha ng abogado. So kung ikaw ay bibiktimahin ng isang

1342
01:40:28,440 --> 01:40:33,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: individwal o isang grupo na may kakayanang kumuha ng abogado,

1343
01:40:33,159 --> 01:40:38,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dehado ka na dahil sa probable cause. Pero dahil dito po sa

1344
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:42,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Freema Fachi evidence with reasonable certainty of conviction, medyo

1345
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nabalanse po natin. At ito po ay kinilala na ng ating korte

1346
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:51,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: suprema na ito ay kaakibat sa mandato ng DOJ bilang

1347
01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:56,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: executive na nasa poder ng DOJ ang mag

1348
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:01,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah maghusga kung aling kaso ang itutuloy

1349
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:05,547
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at aling kasong krimen ang hindi itutuloy. Maraming salamat po.

1350
01:41:05,665 --> 01:41:08,109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ah Mr. Chair, napansin natin sa

1351
01:41:08,119 --> 01:41:11,189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kanilang report na merong disposition rate.

1352
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:13,109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May changes po ba in for example

1353
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: filing rates or conviction rates?

1354
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,629
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Dahil nga po sinabi na medyo ma-stricter iyung standard.

1355
01:41:18,639 --> 01:41:20,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Is there less there are there

1356
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: less cases filed in court now?

1357
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,017
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mas mataas po ba ang conviction rate? Mr. Chair,

1358
01:41:26,624 --> 01:41:30,623
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If I may ask the Prosecutor General to respond.

1359
01:41:33,205 --> 01:41:39,550
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

1360
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:45,950
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: filed, mas kokunti po ang umaakyat na kaso ngayon dahil ang ginagawa po ng inyong Department of Justice

1361
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:51,990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay bago pa ho ito maisampa sa amin, hindi naman po kaagad yan dina-docket kaagad sa

1362
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:58,510
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: isang criminal case. Ini-evaluate muna to at kung kulang po ang ebidensya, ito po'y ibinabalik namin para

1363
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:04,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: buuin ang ebidensya. Kung kami naman po ay uh sa tingin po ng after evaluation

1364
01:42:04,440 --> 01:42:11,709
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: makikita po na sapat na ang ebidensya parang ito'y masampa, saka pa lamang po namin yan iaakyat sa hhusgado.

1365
01:42:11,719 --> 01:42:17,310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang kagandahan po nito ay dahil sa sa maagang panahon, ang inyong prosecution

1366
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:23,229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: service at ang ating mga law enforcement ay nag-uusap na po para malaman kung ano yung mga

1367
01:42:23,239 --> 01:42:29,910
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kailangang ebidensya na maipresenta sa hhusgado para pagdating po nito sa hhusgado, natitiyak po natin

1368
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:35,629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na itong kaso na pong ito ay tatagal at ito po ay kayang makakuha ng conviction.

1369
01:42:35,639 --> 01:42:42,292
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So there are fewer cases which are actually being filed but these are I would call and classify them as quality cases. Ma'am

1370
01:42:43,186 --> 01:42:47,709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, puwede po bang makakuha ng numbers tungkol dito?

1371
01:42:47,719 --> 01:42:53,070
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May disposition rate naman na po. So siguro conviction rates and filing rates to supplement yung

1372
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:58,120
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ganon numbers. Meron po ba or can this be submitted to the committee? Mr. Chair?

1373
01:42:58,660 --> 01:43:06,870
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Yes, your honor. Ah, iyung cases na binanggit namin iyong 395,000, ito po iyung preliminary investigation.

1374
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:14,149
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: After a resolution for a preliminary investigation, meron pong for filing at merong for dismissal.

1375
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:20,851
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: We will share that data. We will we need to disaggregate iyung data po namin na available. Yes, we will make that available your honor. Okay.

1376
01:43:20,851 --> 01:43:28,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I share the concern ano uh from the Department of Justice. Ayaw natin na may mga kaso

1377
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:37,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na essentially madi-dismiss lang din naman. Sayang po sa oras, sayang po sa pera. And I have to raise yung mga ilang cases that

1378
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:44,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: have been uh notified to my office no na ah ang dulo po nito maraming na-disms, no?

1379
01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:53,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Marami pong to our knowledge terrorist financing cases that despite it being filed by the court, filed by the officer of

1380
01:43:53,239 --> 01:44:01,870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: This year, iyong case ng CERNET, it was dismissed because of lack of jurisdiction.

1381
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:09,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: People v. Muñoz, People v. Aliques, People v. Estolioso, People v. Lemita—marami po sa kanila may defects.

1382
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:17,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Muñoz people versus Aliquez people versus Estolioso people versus Lamita na marami po sa kanila may defects

1383
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:26,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: on uh jurisdiction and in the last case I mention po um yung prosecutor ni-request na mag-submit ng additional

1384
01:44:26,440 --> 01:44:34,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: data at hindi po ito na ibigay and wala pong additional communication so dinismiss na lang po ng court. So ang tanong ko po Mr.

1385
01:44:34,239 --> 01:44:42,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair ah bakit po ganito nangyayari no? May mas mataas ng um threshold, evidentially

1386
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:50,744
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: threshhold and the court will dismiss them no? Because hindi naman na-meet or walang primafch case at all.

1387
01:44:55,250 --> 01:44:57,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Mr.

1388
01:44:57,199 --> 01:44:59,310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Chair, there are instances ho talaga

1389
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na kahit na po sa tingin ng prosecutor

1390
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:02,990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: after evaluating the evidence that it is

1391
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: sufficient, we're still looking

1392
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: at a variable which is how the court would view it.

1393
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:09,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There are so many factors

1394
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that can be considered when a case

1395
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: and how a case will be decided.

1396
01:45:13,639 --> 01:45:15,109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: We in the prosecution are

1397
01:45:15,119 --> 01:45:17,109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: convinced with the evidence that we present

1398
01:45:17,119 --> 01:45:19,229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: before the court that it will meet the standard

1399
01:45:19,239 --> 01:45:21,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of proof beyond reasonable doubt.

1400
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Pero meron pong mga factors talaga

1401
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na hindi po or beyond our

1402
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: control and which becomes the basis

1403
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:29,950
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the court when rendering judgment.

1404
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:31,310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: But uh also

1405
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:32,950
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ma'am,

1406
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: uh ma'am that

1407
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: in this particular there are instances

1408
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: wherein there are really cases na

1409
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: halimbawa ho naisampa dumating

1410
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:44,229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ho sa hhusgado pero nadi-disms.

1411
01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:45,709
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Marami hong dahilan diyan.

1412
01:45:45,719 --> 01:45:47,870
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Hindi ho sumisipot ang testigo.

1413
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Wala na pong ebidensya

1414
01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:51,030
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: because I have to point out

1415
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,149
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: also that the prosecutor is only as

1416
01:45:53,159 --> 01:45:55,790
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: good as the evidence that he has on hand.

1417
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So kaya nga gusto po namin

1418
01:45:57,440 --> 01:45:58,830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: habang sa pinakamaagang

1419
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: pagkakataon hawak na po natin 'yung

1420
01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:03,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ebidensya ng kung sa gayon pagdating sa

1421
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: hhusgado kung ito'y hihingi

1422
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ng ating hukom ito

1423
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:09,263
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: po y agad-agad nating maipresinta.

1424
01:46:10,715 --> 01:46:12,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ang napansin ko rin po Mr.

1425
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair, in this recent string

1426
01:46:14,599 --> 01:46:16,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: of cases that were dismissed,

1427
01:46:16,599 --> 01:46:18,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: um there is one legal

1428
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: argument na pinanghawakan

1429
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:22,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na in

1430
01:46:22,599 --> 01:46:24,350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: one ruling ay the court

1431
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:26,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: said hindi po ito

1432
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:28,709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: magfa-fly na legal argument and

1433
01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:30,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I think this string of cases yun na

1434
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:32,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po iyung argument sa kanila

1435
01:46:32,440 --> 01:46:34,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no na walang jurisdiction etc.

1436
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So I guess my question would

1437
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: be given na may gann ng

1438
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh findings yung courts,

1439
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: will the DOJ

1440
01:46:42,599 --> 01:46:44,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dismiss or withdraw cases

1441
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:46,189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that are allegedly lacking

1442
01:46:46,199 --> 01:46:48,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: insufficient legal basis or

1443
01:46:48,440 --> 01:46:50,149
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: founded on fabricated evidence?

1444
01:46:50,159 --> 01:46:52,109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Lalo na for example these cases

1445
01:46:52,119 --> 01:46:54,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: were filed before nagbago

1446
01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:55,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iyung standard no?

1447
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Hindi na reasonable uh

1448
01:46:58,400 --> 01:46:59,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: certainty of conviction pero

1449
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,070
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ngayon binago, chineck parang

1450
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,070
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: hindi naman pumapasa doon.

1451
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Will the DOJ uh

1452
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,056
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: dismiss or withdraw these cases?

1453
01:47:09,338 --> 01:47:11,510
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: In answer to your question, Ma'am,

1454
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Definitely if these cases

1455
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:14,910
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: were filed before the

1456
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:16,669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: department adopted the new quantum

1457
01:47:16,679 --> 01:47:18,750
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of evidence, we will certainly scrutinize

1458
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it before it actually

1459
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is elevated to court.

1460
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: There is of course during the evaluation

1461
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:25,830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the opportunity to assert

1462
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: whether we will elevate it or

1463
01:47:27,679 --> 01:47:29,550
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we will send it back for purposes of

1464
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: gathering additional evidence.

1465
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:32,990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So you can be assured madam

1466
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,709
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: uh uh madam

1467
01:47:34,719 --> 01:47:36,830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that when we do evaluate our

1468
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:38,629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: cases we will look at the evidence which

1469
01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:40,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: is on hand at the time of the

1470
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: filing and then on the basis

1471
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: of the same make our assessment whether

1472
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:46,030
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it will be sufficient to bring

1473
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:47,629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: it forward to the court.

1474
01:47:47,639 --> 01:47:49,830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: If we find that the evidence is insufficient

1475
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:51,629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: rest assured that the department

1476
01:47:51,639 --> 01:47:53,470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: will not also elevate these cases

1477
01:47:53,480 --> 01:47:55,222
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: we have to meet.

1478
01:47:56,183 --> 01:47:57,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: How about Mr.

1479
01:47:57,239 --> 01:48:00,189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair yung mga cases that are currently pending with the

1480
01:48:00,199 --> 01:48:02,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: court pero upon review ay hindi

1481
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: naman na po papasa doon sa bagong

1482
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:05,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: evidentiary threshold.

1483
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:07,950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At siguro I'd like to thank the

1484
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:10,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: DOJ last year nag-request

1485
01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:12,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tayo ng data kung ano na po yung mga

1486
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na-file na or ano na po

1487
01:48:14,239 --> 01:48:16,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iyong status ng cases under the

1488
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: DOG task force on

1489
01:48:18,199 --> 01:48:19,550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: counterterrorism.

1490
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:23,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Shineer po na kalahati niyan ay pending no.

1491
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:24,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero may some

1492
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 1/5 that were dismissed

1493
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:28,870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: because of insufficiency of evidence.

1494
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:30,109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So that was before

1495
01:48:30,119 --> 01:48:31,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iyung standard na to no.

1496
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:33,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So but there's still half no.

1497
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:36,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And these are people na sa

1498
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:37,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pag kausap sa

1499
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kanila, you know, from

1500
01:48:40,199 --> 01:48:42,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: marginalized sectors, marginalized communities,

1501
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:44,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tumutulong sa kapwa communities and may na

1502
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: masama yung ganito.

1503
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So ayaw lang nating maipit at mas mahirapan

1504
01:48:48,480 --> 01:48:50,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pa yung tuloy-tuloy nilang

1505
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah pagkabuhay

1506
01:48:52,599 --> 01:48:54,189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and mas nahihirapan pa

1507
01:48:54,199 --> 01:48:56,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng overburdensome

1508
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na court proceedings.

1509
01:48:58,119 --> 01:49:00,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So will the DOJ, Mr.

1510
01:49:00,440 --> 01:49:02,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: chair no review spending cases

1511
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:04,561
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kahit hindi pa siya for elevation. M

1512
01:49:04,561 --> 01:49:06,589
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: well definitely it's a challenge po

1513
01:49:06,599 --> 01:49:08,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: for the department na when there are

1514
01:49:08,440 --> 01:49:10,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: cases which are already pending in

1515
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: court prior to the adoption of the

1516
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:14,589
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: new quantum of evidence because it's not something

1517
01:49:14,599 --> 01:49:16,669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that you can just withdraw

1518
01:49:16,679 --> 01:49:19,669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: especially when the proceedings are already ongoing.

1519
01:49:19,679 --> 01:49:20,470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Now ang sa amin

1520
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:22,550
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: naman po dito is that hindi naman

1521
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: po basta basta sinasampa yung kaso.

1522
01:49:24,679 --> 01:49:26,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Ang gusto nating maunawaan ng ating mga

1523
01:49:26,440 --> 01:49:28,550
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kababayan, Madam Sherry, is that

1524
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ah yun ho ang

1525
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: problema naging problema natin dun sa

1526
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:33,990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: dating quantum of evidence.

1527
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: probable cause. Ang ang ibig sabihin lang

1528
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:38,669
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: po niyan may posibilidad

1529
01:49:38,679 --> 01:49:40,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: na yung taong inaakusahan

1530
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,350
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ay may kinalaman doon sa ginawang krimen.

1531
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:44,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Dahil itinaas po

1532
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:46,109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: natin yung antas no ng

1533
01:49:46,119 --> 01:49:48,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ah ebidensya na kailangan,

1534
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,709
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: mas masusi na pong natitingnan ngayon.

1535
01:49:50,719 --> 01:49:52,470
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: At least masasabi po namin

1536
01:49:52,480 --> 01:49:54,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: yan tungkol doon sa mga

1537
01:49:54,199 --> 01:49:56,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: kasong isinasampa ngayon.

1538
01:49:56,199 --> 01:49:58,310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: For those cases which are in court, yes, we

1539
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,510
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: will of course take into

1540
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: consideration kung ano man po ang

1541
01:50:02,199 --> 01:50:04,310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: naging obserbasyon ng hhusgado.

1542
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,270
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Pero may nabanggit po kayo kanina

1543
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:08,070
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: ma'am like for example yung sa

1544
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Sirnet no na

1545
01:50:10,119 --> 01:50:12,390
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: yes that was the decision of the regional

1546
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,109
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: trial court but of course the

1547
01:50:14,119 --> 01:50:16,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: department also has other options

1548
01:50:16,440 --> 01:50:18,430
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: which is to elevate the matter on

1549
01:50:18,440 --> 01:50:20,229
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: surchay if we feel

1550
01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:22,070
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: that there was a mistake no

1551
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,629
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: or grave abuse committed by the court.

1552
01:50:24,639 --> 01:50:26,310
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: So those are things which are

1553
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,189
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: available to us at ginagamit po ng

1554
01:50:28,199 --> 01:50:29,910
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: department para matiyak

1555
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,070
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: natin na iyung tamang

1556
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,167
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: hustisya ang makuha ng kung sino man.

1557
01:50:35,618 --> 01:50:38,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for your answer.

1558
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:39,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And I ang dulo naman

1559
01:50:39,599 --> 01:50:41,910
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po nito, I hope na ma-consider iyon.

1560
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ah and siguro

1561
01:50:43,480 --> 01:50:45,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ah given that I have lacking

1562
01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:47,279
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 30 seconds left na lang po.

1563
01:50:47,279 --> 01:50:48,359
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Last question na, Rep. Renee.

1564
01:50:48,359 --> 01:50:50,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay. Uh my last question.

1565
01:50:50,599 --> 01:50:53,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Uh this is in relation to data submitted by the DOJ

1566
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,189
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: din last year.

1567
01:50:55,199 --> 01:50:58,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Uh manghingi lang din po ako ng update dahil to

1568
01:50:58,440 --> 01:51:01,709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh discuss there's like 106 cases

1569
01:51:01,719 --> 01:51:04,669
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: daw filed by the DOJ on

1570
01:51:04,679 --> 01:51:06,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: by that DOG task force on counterterrorism

1571
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:08,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and terrorism financing.

1572
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:12,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So kung may increase po ng cases na to, wed like to receive

1573
01:51:12,239 --> 01:51:14,870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: an update and even iyung breakdown uh

1574
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: whether it's dismissed or pending

1575
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: investigation etc. And ang question ko na lang po Mr.

1576
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,069
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Chair dito um

1577
01:51:23,079 --> 01:51:25,350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: beyond yung task force ng DOJ, is

1578
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the DOJ working with other government

1579
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:30,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: agencies ah para ma

1580
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:33,669
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: magawa yung mga functions in relation to this?

1581
01:51:33,679 --> 01:51:36,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May joint task force po ba on

1582
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,528
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: terrorism or counterterrorism? Mr. Chair.

1583
01:51:45,177 --> 01:51:49,990
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: Well, our prosecutors, Ma'am, coordinate with the Anti-Terrorism Council,

1584
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:55,910
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: counterparts in the military that we uh talk to together with the other

1585
01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:00,830
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: the intelligence community, no? In helping make sure that the evidence which is actually

1586
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:06,271
Prosecutor General Richard Anthony Fadullon: gathered and which is brought forward as basis for the filing of these cases are actually sufficient and existing.

1587
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:07,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr.

1588
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,229
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: SH if you would allow me a brief time to reply

1589
01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:12,709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and then maybe make my last question.

1590
01:52:12,719 --> 01:52:13,358
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, you

1591
01:52:13,358 --> 01:52:15,704
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: You may, Rep. Renee.

1592
01:52:15,805 --> 01:52:18,069
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: you for your indulgence, Mr. Chair. Mr.

1593
01:52:18,079 --> 01:52:19,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: I'd like to bring up a certain case

1594
01:52:19,599 --> 01:52:20,950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: study dahil

1595
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po it was flagged to

1596
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,870
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: us na merong isang

1597
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,149
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: uh Filipino American

1598
01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:29,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that was here

1599
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:31,709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and supposedly uh

1600
01:52:31,719 --> 01:52:33,669
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron pong mga agents of the

1601
01:52:33,679 --> 01:52:35,669
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bureau of Immigration

1602
01:52:35,679 --> 01:52:37,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: that uh

1603
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:39,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sought to arrest her no and then they were

1604
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,109
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: wearing vests na nakalagay antiterror

1605
01:52:42,119 --> 01:52:43,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: task force.

1606
01:52:43,480 --> 01:52:45,669
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So this is beyond

1607
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:46,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung DOJ no.

1608
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:49,950
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: meron ng buo of immigration

1609
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:51,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and aside from that

1610
01:52:51,480 --> 01:52:53,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: no inassure siya na

1611
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,629
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: overstaying lang iyung charge

1612
01:52:55,639 --> 01:52:57,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: niya but pagdating po sa

1613
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: prosecution naging frustrated

1614
01:52:59,599 --> 01:53:01,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: murder so

1615
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:03,550
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ang question natin dito

1616
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:05,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mr chair ay ah

1617
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yun nga po ano

1618
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:10,149
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: po bang mga

1619
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:11,629
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: iba't ibang processes

1620
01:53:11,639 --> 01:53:13,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or even iba't ibang agencies involved

1621
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa operations ng DOJ task

1622
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: force ah meron Meron po bang ibang joint

1623
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:19,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: task force and ano pong guidelines yung

1624
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:21,709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sinusunod nila and paano nila in-ensure na

1625
01:53:21,719 --> 01:53:23,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung mga mamamayan or mga taong

1626
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,790
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: bayan natin hindi po naa-unburden

1627
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:27,709
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kanilang observance of

1628
01:53:27,719 --> 01:53:29,684
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

1629
01:53:30,410 --> 01:53:32,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang ultimate

1630
01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:34,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: salamat po ah your honor.

1631
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ang ang pinakabasehan lang naman

1632
01:53:36,679 --> 01:53:38,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nito kung ano yung ebidensya at ano yung

1633
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:40,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: rule of law, ano yung batas.

1634
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So sa mga proseso hindi

1635
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:44,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ho perpekto sistema natin

1636
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: syempre sa lahat na yyan tulad ho ngayon

1637
01:53:47,159 --> 01:53:49,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa antiterrorism task force ang DOJ

1638
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po ang technical ang head ng technical

1639
01:53:51,599 --> 01:53:54,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: working group doon sa designation

1640
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:55,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag law enforcement

1641
01:53:55,239 --> 01:53:57,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: activities marami na pong iba't ibang ahensya

1642
01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:59,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: diyan tulad ng nabanggit niyo po meron

1643
01:53:59,960 --> 01:54:01,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pong ahente ang BI meron

1644
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pong ahente ang PNP meron

1645
01:54:04,199 --> 01:54:06,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: din pong ahente ang ating NBI

1646
01:54:06,599 --> 01:54:08,390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na gumaganap sa ganitong iba't

1647
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ibang tungkulin ang aming pong

1648
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: masisigurado sa Department of

1649
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Justice no ah kung ito

1650
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: man ay papasok sa aming mandato,

1651
01:54:16,679 --> 01:54:19,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: titiyakin namin na ito ay base lamang sa ebidensya.

1652
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:20,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tulad do ngbanggit niyo

1653
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:22,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kanina, sinabi

1654
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay ang tinitiyak

1655
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:26,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung immigration

1656
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:28,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: officers na ang ano lang is

1657
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: overstaying, then biglang ang naging

1658
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:34,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kaso na ay ah frustrated.

1659
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito naman po ay base lang sa ebidensya.

1660
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:37,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung kung may

1661
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagmamalabis man po yung ating mga

1662
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ahente ng ah na

1663
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:43,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kapatid natin sa paglilingkod bayan,

1664
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:45,629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: meron naman pong recourse.

1665
01:54:45,639 --> 01:54:48,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pwede pong magsumbong sa Secretary of Justice, sa

1666
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bureo, sa Commissioner ng ating

1667
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:52,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bureau para po ma-correct

1668
01:54:52,679 --> 01:54:55,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung yung maaaring pagkakamali.

1669
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:56,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero hindi ko ho masasabi na may

1670
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagkakamali na kaagad dahil sa

1671
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: bawat po pagganap namin dun sa tungkulin,

1672
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:02,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: syempre kanya-kanya pong

1673
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,146
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag-appreciate ng kanya-kanyang ebidensya.

1674
01:55:06,023 --> 01:55:08,149
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you for yung reply, Mr. Chair.

1675
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:10,589
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, yung request na lang po natin sa data.

1676
01:55:10,599 --> 01:55:12,350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Sana po ay ma-submit through committee and

1677
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: we will um uh

1678
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,604
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: coordinate po doon sa request natin.

1679
01:55:16,823 --> 01:55:17,617
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will submit, Your Honor.

1680
01:55:18,578 --> 01:55:20,069
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you very much.

1681
01:55:20,079 --> 01:55:21,390
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Rep. Renee Co.

1682
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,030
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the majority,

1683
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:25,750
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Jonathan Keith Flores.

1684
01:55:27,252 --> 01:55:28,310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr.

1685
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair, I would like to direct my question to

1686
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:32,669
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: to Asec. Lapuz.

1687
01:55:32,679 --> 01:55:34,790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair, uh

1688
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,550
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: I noticed that uh the budgets

1689
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: for anti-trafficking

1690
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: persons enforcement, the

1691
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: cyber crime enforcement

1692
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and the online sexual abuse

1693
01:55:44,119 --> 01:55:46,109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and exploitation of children

1694
01:55:46,119 --> 01:55:47,870
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: were drastically

1695
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:50,709
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: reduced dito sa 2027 NEP.

1696
01:55:50,719 --> 01:55:51,629
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Anong masasabi niyo po

1697
01:55:51,639 --> 01:55:53,543
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Asec. Lapuz?

1698
01:55:54,843 --> 01:55:57,669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: With the indulgence of our secretary.

1699
01:55:57,679 --> 01:55:59,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Sec.

1700
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,149
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, um,

1701
01:56:01,159 --> 01:56:03,550
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Cong. Flores, for that question.

1702
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:04,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Of course we

1703
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: are concerned

1704
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:09,030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: about this drastic

1705
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:10,990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um decrease or slashing

1706
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:12,790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of our cluster's budget

1707
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the human security and privacy

1708
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:16,189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: cluster of the department of

1709
01:56:16,199 --> 01:56:18,430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: justice under which is the

1710
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: interagency council against trafficking

1711
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Secretariat, the NCC-

1712
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:24,510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: OSAEC-CSAEM Secretariat, and the

1713
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Office of Cybercrime.

1714
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:27,709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We've

1715
01:56:27,719 --> 01:56:30,510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: seen uh rising

1716
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:32,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: number of cases related

1717
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to sextortion,

1718
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:36,189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: online scam,

1719
01:56:36,199 --> 01:56:38,109
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: osaec, online illegal

1720
01:56:38,119 --> 01:56:40,350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: recruitment as well as NVE

1721
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,270
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: as mentioned a while ago but by

1722
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:44,030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: one of the representatives

1723
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:45,589
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: present this afternoon.

1724
01:56:45,599 --> 01:56:47,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: All of these are

1725
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: technology facilitated crimes

1726
01:56:50,199 --> 01:56:51,510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: or the misuse of

1727
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,910
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: technology to commit these crimes.

1728
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:56,030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And

1729
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:57,870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: we feel that there is a

1730
01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:59,990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: misapprehension of the scope

1731
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:01,709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of the problem because

1732
01:57:01,719 --> 01:57:03,950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: if for example the

1733
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: committee deliberating on our

1734
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:07,589
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: budget would appreciate the

1735
01:57:07,599 --> 01:57:09,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: gravity and the urgency by which

1736
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,629
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: we need to respond to

1737
01:57:11,639 --> 01:57:13,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: these crimes, then they would

1738
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:15,910
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: at the very least restore

1739
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:17,950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our budget to the

1740
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:19,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: uh 2026

1741
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:21,648
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: levels. Mr.

1742
01:57:25,951 --> 01:57:28,069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Yes. I saw kasi na

1743
01:57:28,079 --> 01:57:29,589
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 41%

1744
01:57:29,599 --> 01:57:31,550
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: sa anti-trafficking in persons,

1745
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,709
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 71%

1746
01:57:33,719 --> 01:57:35,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: reduction in cyber

1747
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:38,189
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: crime at saka 58%

1748
01:57:38,199 --> 01:57:40,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: in uh OSAEC.

1749
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:40,830
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: No.

1750
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,870
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Um, were there issues on uh your ano

1751
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,796
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ba absorbtive capacity?

1752
01:57:47,990 --> 01:57:50,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Mr. Chair, thank you again for that question.

1753
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:51,669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: If if

1754
01:57:51,679 --> 01:57:54,790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: absorptive capacity you mean um two things.

1755
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:55,990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: First our

1756
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,149
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: ability to procure

1757
01:57:58,159 --> 01:57:59,709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: certain um

1758
01:57:59,719 --> 01:58:01,790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: certain high level

1759
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:03,709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: uh programs and initiatives

1760
01:58:03,719 --> 01:58:05,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: as well as absorptive capacity

1761
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:07,870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of our local task forces to

1762
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:09,149
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: act on cases.

1763
01:58:09,159 --> 01:58:11,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Yes, there are limitations.

1764
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:13,669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: However, we can't stop

1765
01:58:13,679 --> 01:58:15,669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: building on these capacities now

1766
01:58:15,679 --> 01:58:17,109
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: by slashing our budget.

1767
01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:19,709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: all the more that we should push for

1768
01:58:19,719 --> 01:58:21,629
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um sustained efforts to

1769
01:58:21,639 --> 01:58:23,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: create capacity both at the level

1770
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:25,669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of the national program as well

1771
01:58:25,679 --> 01:58:27,595
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: as our local task forces.

1772
01:58:28,270 --> 01:58:30,030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Well, is it correct ba

1773
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:32,069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: na na-include ba sa

1774
01:58:32,079 --> 01:58:34,149
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: LEDAC bills 'yung amendments

1775
01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:35,510
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ng OSAEC law?

1776
01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:35,948
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Yes, Your Honor.

1777
01:58:36,151 --> 01:58:38,030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: if it is part of the LEDAC priority

1778
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:39,709
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: no tapos you're going to be

1779
01:58:39,719 --> 01:58:41,069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: having a 58.93%

1780
01:58:41,079 --> 01:58:43,310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 93% reduction in the budget.

1781
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: How will that parang affect

1782
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:46,990
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: the activities

1783
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:48,875
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: of uh the NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM?

1784
01:58:49,432 --> 01:58:51,430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Um your honor, it will really

1785
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um take us two or three steps

1786
01:58:53,679 --> 01:58:55,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: back on our initiatives.

1787
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We have just rolled out the National Strategic

1788
01:58:58,040 --> 01:58:59,589
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Action Plan Against OSAEC and CSAEM,

1789
01:58:59,599 --> 01:59:01,669
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and we want to

1790
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:03,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: maintain the Tier 1 status of

1791
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the Philippines in the U.S. TIP

1792
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Report, because if we lose

1793
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:10,350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: that standing then there will be economic

1794
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:11,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: implications against the

1795
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,390
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Philippines.

1796
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:16,189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Second, yes, it

1797
01:59:16,199 --> 01:59:18,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: is a LEDAC priority,

1798
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:19,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and our capacity

1799
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to respond to emerging threats

1800
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,390
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of OSAEC, CSAEM, and VE,

1801
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and the other crimes I mentioned a

1802
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: while ago must be

1803
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:30,709
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um leveled up because

1804
01:59:30,719 --> 01:59:32,950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: in order for us to maintain Tier 1

1805
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:34,870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: status they need to see a

1806
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:36,550
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: constant improvement in

1807
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:39,030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our response mechanisms.

1808
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So hindi lang po kung ano 'yung ginawa

1809
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,189
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: natin last year, gagawin din natin ngayon.

1810
01:59:43,199 --> 01:59:44,830
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: What is important is we

1811
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:47,229
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: improve the response and

1812
01:59:47,239 --> 01:59:49,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: at the very least restoration of

1813
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,229
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our budget will ensure

1814
01:59:51,239 --> 01:59:53,405
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um sufficient support for that goal.

1815
01:59:54,012 --> 02:00:04,430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: And itong cyber crime din ba we always see nowadays na karamihan ng crimes are perpetrated through the internet and the use of other gadgets no.

1816
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:12,811
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So, anong impact naman nito na may 71% reduction sa budget ng anti-cybercrime enforcement?

1817
02:00:13,385 --> 02:00:19,430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Uh your honor, a lot of these cyber enabled crimes are already perpetrated by

1818
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:24,990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: AI um systems. So we need to catch up in our response.

1819
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:32,109
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Um, yung hinihingi po naming restoration to the levels of the 2026 budget for the OOC, it's just to maintain

1820
02:00:32,119 --> 02:00:37,790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our pace, no, to respond to these emerging threats. As I mentioned a while ago, we need to build

1821
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:43,990
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: our capacity both on the IT infrastructure, capability building of our personnel,

1822
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:50,350
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: increased personnel both on the investigative agents as well as the policy determination

1823
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:56,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: arm of the Office of Cybercrime.

1824
02:00:56,760 --> 02:01:02,750
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And especially the international cooperation mechanism, because timely international

1825
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:08,510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: exchange of information leads to timely rescue operations and mas marami po tayong naa-identify na victims and

1826
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:14,776
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: perpetrators so we could create that nexus and that web of investigative leads.

1827
02:01:15,232 --> 02:01:19,589
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Let me understand lang is this nangyari to because you're

1828
02:01:19,599 --> 02:01:23,790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: unable to procure certain things ba or what ba ang use ng budget

1829
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:27,990
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: niyo before kasi medyo malaki yung budget niyo last year eh no

1830
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,830
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: from 119, ginawang 70; from 119, ginawang

1831
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:36,545
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 34; 112, ginawang 46. Ano, what's wrong?

1832
02:01:36,815 --> 02:01:42,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Um, in terms po of the procurement side, naka-earmark naman na po 'yung

1833
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:48,470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: mga high ticket or high level programs So it's just a matter of ensuring that the procurement

1834
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:54,470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: process would be undertaken timely within the year. Um meron pong um instance

1835
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:59,950
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: na nagkaroon po ng issuance din ang Malacañang um with a directive of

1836
02:01:59,960 --> 02:02:05,430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: decreasing MOOE expenses by 20%. So isang bagay din po yon.

1837
02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:11,790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And third, yung uh napi-pinpoint po naming need to create um alternative modes of

1838
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:17,910
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: procurement such as um maybe establishing and empowering our regional bids

1839
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:23,629
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and awards committee to increase the absorptive capacity in that sense to be able to keep

1840
02:02:23,639 --> 02:02:29,735
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: abreast with the needs to procure with the need to procure these high level um programs.

1841
02:02:29,903 --> 02:02:33,229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Are are these uh offices currently undergoing

1842
02:02:33,239 --> 02:02:36,586
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: uh siguro manpower issues ba? Kulang ba kayo ng tao?

1843
02:02:37,193 --> 02:02:41,510
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Kulang na kulang po, Your Honor. Actually, sa

1844
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:47,229
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM, the plantilla positions created by the DBM are already completely

1845
02:02:47,239 --> 02:02:50,430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: filled up.

1846
02:02:50,440 --> 02:02:54,870
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we need to create more plantilla positions for NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

1847
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:59,430
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: However, even our temporary measure of hiring JOs and COS, hindi

1848
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:03,790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: rin po pinayagan ng DBM. So we have to make do with

1849
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:08,310
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: um resources in terms of manpower but at the same time

1850
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:12,790
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: 'yun pong secondary trauma and um uh effect naman

1851
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,390
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: po on the people that we have now 'yun din po yung binabantayan natin.

1852
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:21,470
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So with your support we hope that we could also advocate for the creation of

1853
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:26,047
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: 79 or so plantilla positions for NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

1854
02:03:26,806 --> 02:03:27,870
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Thank you, Asec. Lapuz.

1855
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:29,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida.

1856
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:30,030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida,

1857
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:30,629
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: paano

1858
02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:31,350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: po ba natin

1859
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:32,550
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ma-address ang issues nila?

1860
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:34,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

1861
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:36,629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Uh, I—we

1862
02:03:36,639 --> 02:03:38,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: propose for a

1863
02:03:38,239 --> 02:03:40,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: parallel, basically

1864
02:03:40,679 --> 02:03:41,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mirroring 'yung 2026.

1865
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But if you look at

1866
02:03:44,119 --> 02:03:45,629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the numbers, Your Honor,

1867
02:03:45,639 --> 02:03:47,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po kasing 'yung SICA last

1868
02:03:47,199 --> 02:03:49,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: which uh yun yung nawala

1869
02:03:49,159 --> 02:03:50,629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po.

1870
02:03:50,639 --> 02:03:52,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So I don't want to

1871
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:54,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: speculate how the DBM did

1872
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:56,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it but apparently

1873
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:58,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it's it's that figure that was

1874
02:03:58,599 --> 02:04:00,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lost

1875
02:04:00,239 --> 02:04:02,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: No, 'yung SICA ng

1876
02:04:02,239 --> 02:04:04,069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: budget ng 2026

1877
02:04:04,079 --> 02:04:05,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yun po yung hindi

1878
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:07,812
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: minirror for 2027

1879
02:04:08,774 --> 02:04:10,470
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: All right. Now, 'di ba,

1880
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:12,430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: kasi ang mangyayari po is

1881
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:13,790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: if they're supposed to be

1882
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:15,350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: procuring these things

1883
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:17,069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: last year at tinanggal

1884
02:04:17,079 --> 02:04:19,790
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: sa budget this year mas lalong hindi nila mapro-procure.

1885
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:20,317
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Tama po ba?

1886
02:04:21,042 --> 02:04:22,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah hindi naman po.

1887
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah kasi may may mga bagay po na

1888
02:04:25,599 --> 02:04:27,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: recurring expense eh.

1889
02:04:27,159 --> 02:04:30,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Yung recurring expense, 'yun po ang problema.

1890
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:31,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah kung kung ito

1891
02:04:31,239 --> 02:04:34,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po ay one time expense ah tapos na.

1892
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:34,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero yung

1893
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:37,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: paulit-ulit na gastos no

1894
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na pumapasok ang karamihan ng

1895
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: MOOE natin at saka yung personal

1896
02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:43,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: services yun po ang problema.

1897
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:45,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So ang nakikita

1898
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lang po namin ah pero basically

1899
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:49,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that's what the figures say.

1900
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:51,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Yung SICA last year na dinagdag

1901
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:53,390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng HGAB, no?

1902
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:55,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nadagdagan kami sa HGAB kasi nung

1903
02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:57,390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nag-budget hearing and

1904
02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: also nung nakarating sa Senate

1905
02:04:59,719 --> 02:05:01,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah yun yung nawala ngayon for

1906
02:05:01,719 --> 02:05:04,069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nep 2027

1907
02:05:04,079 --> 02:05:05,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so ah baka

1908
02:05:05,199 --> 02:05:07,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po I don't baka po walang

1909
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kinalaman doon sa absorptive capacity

1910
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:11,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kundi may kinalaman lang doon

1911
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:13,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa kung ano lang yung

1912
02:05:13,159 --> 02:05:15,549
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: NEP 2026 yun din

1913
02:05:15,559 --> 02:05:17,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang itinawid na NEP

1914
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:19,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2027 7 without

1915
02:05:19,599 --> 02:05:21,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: considering yung idinagdag

1916
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:24,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na ng Congress, for

1917
02:05:24,119 --> 02:05:25,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for—na

1918
02:05:25,719 --> 02:05:27,783
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: naging GAA 2026.

1919
02:05:27,867 --> 02:05:29,229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So, 'yung original NEP niyo,

1920
02:05:29,239 --> 02:05:30,669
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: without the HGAB?

1921
02:05:30,679 --> 02:05:32,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Ah, okay, 'yun lang ang pinasa.

1922
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:35,320
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tingin ko po, 'yun po 'yung lumalabas sa data.

1923
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:37,910
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Right, but would you agree

1924
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: with Asec. Lapuz na

1925
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,040
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: kailangan maibalik at least to that level?

1926
02:05:42,559 --> 02:05:43,280
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Definitely po.

1927
02:05:43,559 --> 02:05:46,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Lalo na po yung pag-maintenance natin sa tier one.

1928
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:47,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Malaking bagay po to.

1929
02:05:47,599 --> 02:05:49,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At saka yung engagement natin, benchmarking

1930
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:51,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: natin internationally.

1931
02:05:51,239 --> 02:05:53,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tulad po ngayon, patuloy po ang pakikipag-uusap

1932
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:55,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: natin sa kanila ah

1933
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:57,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the registry of sex offenders.

1934
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, the European countries have very

1935
02:05:59,159 --> 02:06:01,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: strict data privacy.

1936
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:03,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Hirap na hirap akong ma-extract sa kanila.

1937
02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:04,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Bigyan niyo kami ng data.

1938
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:07,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Baka kasi mga Pilipino na nabibiktima,

1939
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:10,069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we're continuously engaging with them.

1940
02:06:10,079 --> 02:06:11,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah, posible ba

1941
02:06:11,159 --> 02:06:12,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: through police assistance, the mutual

1942
02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:15,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: legal assistance agreements

1943
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:17,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with other countries?

1944
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:18,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Possible.

1945
02:06:18,119 --> 02:06:21,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero dun sa direct lang po na

1946
02:06:21,159 --> 02:06:22,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: direct lang po extraction

1947
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:25,069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or us to be able to harvest 'yung data

1948
02:06:25,079 --> 02:06:26,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nila ng foreign

1949
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:28,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sex offenders na traveling in the

1950
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Philippines, issue na po sa atin

1951
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:32,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yun kasi they have data

1952
02:06:32,679 --> 02:06:34,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: privacy laws that prohibit their

1953
02:06:34,719 --> 02:06:36,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: authorities from uh

1954
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:38,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sharing that data and

1955
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:40,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: information with us.

1956
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:42,430
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But we're working on

1957
02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:44,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: this uh various

1958
02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:47,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: engagements with counterparts po natin.

1959
02:06:47,199 --> 02:06:48,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya your honor

1960
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:50,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: napakalaga ho 'yung continuing engagement

1961
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:52,390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng teams natin, particularly

1962
02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:54,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: our NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

1963
02:06:54,679 --> 02:06:56,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 'Yung counterparts nila.

1964
02:06:56,239 --> 02:06:58,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because a bigger part of the work

1965
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is the human to human

1966
02:07:00,639 --> 02:07:02,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: networking.

1967
02:07:02,199 --> 02:07:04,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pag may kaibigan ka na po doon sa

1968
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:05,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: counterpart mo mas dumadali po

1969
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:09,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung yung sharing po ng data at saka yung work po.

1970
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:10,231
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Mas dumadali po

1971
02:07:11,294 --> 02:07:13,189
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Thank you, Sec. Mr.

1972
02:07:13,199 --> 02:07:15,270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair narinig po natin no na hopefully we

1973
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:17,350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: can do something about it kahit man lang ma-restore

1974
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:20,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: lang to the 2026 levels po Mr.

1975
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:21,229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Chair.

1976
02:07:21,239 --> 02:07:22,950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Anyway, another topic, Secretary Vida.

1977
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:25,069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida, 'di ba,

1978
02:07:25,079 --> 02:07:27,189
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: for every creation of a new

1979
02:07:27,199 --> 02:07:29,249
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: court, dapat may isang fiscal din kayo?

1980
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:31,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

1981
02:07:31,599 --> 02:07:34,350
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: actually uh under the law uh for every

1982
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:36,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: regional trial court two

1983
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:37,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: prosecutors for

1984
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:39,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: every municipal or first

1985
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:41,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: level court the city courts

1986
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:43,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it should be one is to one.

1987
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:45,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: One MTC,

1988
02:07:45,679 --> 02:07:47,187
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: one prosecutor position.

1989
02:07:47,187 --> 02:07:49,069
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: okay now ah pagpasa po

1990
02:07:49,079 --> 02:07:50,589
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ba ng law

1991
02:07:50,599 --> 02:07:52,430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: creating that particular court dapat

1992
02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:54,443
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: may prosecutors na kayong nilalagay

1993
02:07:54,629 --> 02:07:56,390
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ah based on our agreement with the

1994
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:58,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: DBM it should be after the court

1995
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:00,709
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: has been organized pero mabilis

1996
02:08:00,719 --> 02:08:02,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na po ang DBM ngayon uh they are

1997
02:08:02,679 --> 02:08:04,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: able to catch up once they organize the

1998
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:06,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: court already Congress creates

1999
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:08,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the court then the Supreme

2000
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:10,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Court through after administrative

2001
02:08:10,599 --> 02:08:13,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: processes they organize the court

2002
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakaka-trigger na rin po iyun ng request

2003
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:17,039
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: namin for new prosecutorial position

2004
02:08:17,039 --> 02:08:19,149
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: yeah but that's my issue with ano eh the

2005
02:08:19,159 --> 02:08:21,109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Supreme Court eh usually we create

2006
02:08:21,119 --> 02:08:23,109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: courts pagpasa ng bill namin

2007
02:08:23,119 --> 02:08:25,149
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: average of 5 years bago

2008
02:08:25,159 --> 02:08:26,910
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: nila ma-organize yung ano kahit na

2009
02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:28,910
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: funded na yun for the for the first

2010
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:30,990
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: 5 years ha tsaka tsaka pa

2011
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:32,950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: nila nao-organize 5 years ang minimum

2012
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ha minsan more than that pa

2013
02:08:35,119 --> 02:08:36,470
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: no so do you wait

2014
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:39,350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: until uh it's organized

2015
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:41,018
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: bago kayo kukuha ng fiscals?

2016
02:08:41,018 --> 02:08:43,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yes uh that's the

2017
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:45,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that's a trigger uh

2018
02:08:45,119 --> 02:08:46,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: time that's a trigger event

2019
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:48,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for the DBM to issue us the

2020
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:50,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: prosecutorial—'yung ano ho, 'yung

2021
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:52,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: NOSCA. Bago nila kami bigyan

2022
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:54,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng NOSCA,

2023
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:56,898
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: inaantay nila na organized na 'yung court.

2024
02:08:57,083 --> 02:08:59,440
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So, we all wait for the Supreme Court to organize it.

2025
02:08:59,559 --> 02:08:59,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, sir.

2026
02:09:00,119 --> 02:09:03,229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Even if it's already funded, it's already ano for the past years.

2027
02:09:03,239 --> 02:09:03,950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Alam naman natin, 'di

2028
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:05,830
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: ba, usually that's what happens, eh.

2029
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:07,830
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: It's always my pet peeve. Every time

2030
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:10,310
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: they sila pa mismo nag ah sa-suggest

2031
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,350
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: minsan na dagdagan 'yung courts etc etc

2032
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:14,229
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: but then they don't fill it up naman

2033
02:09:14,239 --> 02:09:16,430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and it takes them a long time before it's filled up.

2034
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:18,109
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So sayang din yung pondo na

2035
02:09:18,119 --> 02:09:20,219
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: pumupunta doon for the unorganized courts.

2036
02:09:21,417 --> 02:09:24,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Totoo po 'yan. Real issue po on the ground.

2037
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:25,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It's true naman, 'di ba?

2038
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:26,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yeah. Oo.

2039
02:09:26,239 --> 02:09:29,310
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ah ang maganda lang po your honor eh the law

2040
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the NPS law was enacted

2041
02:09:31,639 --> 02:09:33,069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2010.

2042
02:09:33,079 --> 02:09:34,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nag-start lang tayo ng actual

2043
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: implementation noong 2024.

2044
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:39,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So kaya po ito 'yung

2045
02:09:39,119 --> 02:09:40,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: creation na ng 1,000 new

2046
02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:42,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: prosecutorial positions.

2047
02:09:42,679 --> 02:09:45,229
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We advocated that with the DBM.

2048
02:09:45,239 --> 02:09:47,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We pushed for that.

2049
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:48,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Now, it's ongoing.

2050
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:51,100
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Wait. You said 2024 lang.

2051
02:09:51,559 --> 02:09:51,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

2052
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:53,200
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: So nag-catch up pa kayo?

2053
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:54,050
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

2054
02:09:54,199 --> 02:09:57,300
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Actually ilang courts yun? From 2010 to 2024.

2055
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:00,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala pong na-create

2056
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:02,508
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: na prosecutorial position. That's 14 years. Opo.

2057
02:10:03,199 --> 02:10:04,200
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Eh, marami-rami iyon.

2058
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:05,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

2059
02:10:05,679 --> 02:10:08,069
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's why the journey po is from

2060
02:10:08,079 --> 02:10:10,629
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2,700 to

2061
02:10:10,639 --> 02:10:12,270
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 4,600.

2062
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:14,589
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And uh the target timeline po

2063
02:10:14,599 --> 02:10:16,189
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: is before the end of

2064
02:10:16,199 --> 02:10:17,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the term of the

2065
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,559
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: President, before June 2028 po.

2066
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,030
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Okay. Thank you, Secretary Vida.

2067
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:24,750
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Uh Mr. Chair again I would like to reiterate

2068
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:26,629
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: my request po sana na

2069
02:10:26,639 --> 02:10:28,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and with the prayer of also

2070
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:30,270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: Secretary Vida na kahit man

2071
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:32,270
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: lang ma-restore 'yung budget for the

2072
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:34,390
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: anti-trafficking persons,

2073
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:36,430
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: the cyber crime enforcement

2074
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:38,950
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: and OSAEC to the 2026

2075
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:39,667
Rep. Jonathan Keith T. Flores: levels. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2076
02:10:40,443 --> 02:10:43,229
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The request is noted.

2077
02:10:43,239 --> 02:10:44,669
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you,

2078
02:10:44,679 --> 02:10:46,709
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Jonathan Keith Flores.

2079
02:10:46,719 --> 02:10:48,390
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Actually,

2080
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,709
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Actually marami pong request para po

2081
02:10:50,719 --> 02:10:52,709
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: ma-fully operationalize

2082
02:10:52,719 --> 02:10:55,270
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: yung mandato po ng DOJ.

2083
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:56,750
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So at the proper time

2084
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:58,870
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we'll tackle it rin dito sa committee.

2085
02:11:00,559 --> 02:11:01,467
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So next in line,

2086
02:11:01,991 --> 02:11:03,195
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Allan Ty,

2087
02:11:03,265 --> 02:11:03,964
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: from the minority po.

2088
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:06,416
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To

2089
02:11:06,416 --> 02:11:08,772
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Secretary Vida, based

2090
02:11:08,772 --> 02:11:10,769
Rep. Allan U. Ty: on your performance indicators,

2091
02:11:11,428 --> 02:11:12,625
Rep. Allan U. Ty: percentage of criminal

2092
02:11:12,625 --> 02:11:14,841
Rep. Allan U. Ty: complaints resolved during the

2093
02:11:14,841 --> 02:11:17,038
Rep. Allan U. Ty: period for FY 2025

2094
02:11:17,038 --> 02:11:18,834
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is 99.12%.

2095
02:11:18,874 --> 02:11:20,971
Rep. Allan U. Ty: For first semester,

2096
02:11:20,971 --> 02:11:23,027
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for the first semester of 2026. Can you kindly

2097
02:11:23,027 --> 02:11:25,063
Rep. Allan U. Ty: confirm?

2098
02:11:25,063 --> 02:11:26,401
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, I do confirm, Your Honor.

2099
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:29,160
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Percentage of cases pending within

2100
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:31,217
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 120 days. Fiscal

2101
02:11:31,217 --> 02:11:33,070
Rep. Allan U. Ty: year 2025, it's 89.35%.

2102
02:11:34,415 --> 02:11:35,351
Rep. Allan U. Ty: And

2103
02:11:35,351 --> 02:11:37,368
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for first semester of 2026,

2104
02:11:37,612 --> 02:11:39,180
Rep. Allan U. Ty: it's 85.25%.

2105
02:11:39,954 --> 02:11:41,217
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you kindly confirm?

2106
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:43,359
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, I

2107
02:11:43,359 --> 02:11:45,056
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: do confirm, Your Honor.

2108
02:11:45,476 --> 02:11:46,461
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, do these percentages

2109
02:11:46,461 --> 02:11:48,505
Rep. Allan U. Ty: represent cases before the

2110
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:50,129
Rep. Allan U. Ty: National Prosecution Service

2111
02:11:50,129 --> 02:11:52,392
Rep. Allan U. Ty: and/or

2112
02:11:52,392 --> 02:11:54,217
Rep. Allan U. Ty: cases pending before the

2113
02:11:54,217 --> 02:11:55,312
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Office of the Secretary,

2114
02:11:56,187 --> 02:11:57,063
Rep. Allan U. Ty: the Petition for Review?

2115
02:12:00,430 --> 02:12:01,532
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: These are the

2116
02:12:01,532 --> 02:12:03,736
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: cases pending in the field offices, sir.

2117
02:12:03,927 --> 02:12:05,791
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under the National Prosecution Service?

2118
02:12:05,791 --> 02:12:08,038
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

2119
02:12:08,038 --> 02:12:10,263
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about the performance indicators for Petition

2120
02:12:10,263 --> 02:12:12,000
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for Review? Can I get,

2121
02:12:12,191 --> 02:12:14,141
Rep. Allan U. Ty: can you tell us the percentage

2122
02:12:14,141 --> 02:12:16,366
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of those resolved cases

2123
02:12:16,366 --> 02:12:18,612
Rep. Allan U. Ty: pending before your office?

2124
02:12:22,013 --> 02:12:22,834
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We can't

2125
02:12:22,854 --> 02:12:24,997
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: say that, sir. Earlier, I have a ballpark

2126
02:12:24,997 --> 02:12:26,439
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: figure since

2127
02:12:26,439 --> 02:12:30,885
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I assumed office, Your Honor.

2128
02:12:31,526 --> 02:12:32,468
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I have resolved

2129
02:12:32,468 --> 02:12:34,170
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more or less 400

2130
02:12:34,170 --> 02:12:36,293
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: petitions for review cases.

2131
02:12:36,773 --> 02:12:38,396
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Out of 16,000

2132
02:12:38,396 --> 02:12:40,939
Rep. Allan U. Ty: petitions for review, as you earlier mentioned. Am I correct?

2133
02:12:41,059 --> 02:12:42,762
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor.

2134
02:12:42,762 --> 02:12:44,825
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the percentage of that

2135
02:12:44,825 --> 02:12:46,968
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 400 cases

2136
02:12:46,968 --> 02:12:49,111
Rep. Allan U. Ty: against 16,000 cases?

2137
02:12:50,853 --> 02:12:52,616
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That would be just around

2138
02:12:52,616 --> 02:12:54,418
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2.5%, Your Honor.

2139
02:12:54,599 --> 02:12:56,341
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Only 2.5%?

2140
02:12:56,482 --> 02:12:58,705
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, so can you

2141
02:12:58,705 --> 02:13:00,788
Rep. Allan U. Ty: please tell, can you put a

2142
02:13:00,788 --> 02:13:02,731
Rep. Allan U. Ty: breakdown as to the year

2143
02:13:02,731 --> 02:13:04,734
Rep. Allan U. Ty: they were filed or elevated

2144
02:13:04,734 --> 02:13:06,917
Rep. Allan U. Ty: before the Department, the 16,000 cases?

2145
02:13:06,917 --> 02:13:08,920
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes. These 16,000

2146
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:10,743
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: cases pending before the Office

2147
02:13:10,743 --> 02:13:12,686
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the Secretary were those filed

2148
02:13:12,686 --> 02:13:14,268
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from January 1, 2020

2149
02:13:14,268 --> 02:13:16,672
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to November 11, 2025.

2150
02:13:17,313 --> 02:13:18,966
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for those prior years?

2151
02:13:19,106 --> 02:13:20,879
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let's say 10 years back,

2152
02:13:20,879 --> 02:13:22,612
Rep. Allan U. Ty: five years old,

2153
02:13:22,632 --> 02:13:24,743
Rep. Allan U. Ty: ten years old. Do you have a breakdown of the case?

2154
02:13:24,743 --> 02:13:26,596
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, we can

2155
02:13:26,596 --> 02:13:28,767
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: submit to you, Your Honor. But it's

2156
02:13:28,767 --> 02:13:30,878
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: approximately 10,000 cases,

2157
02:13:31,237 --> 02:13:32,651
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: all cases prior to

2158
02:13:32,651 --> 02:13:33,846
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: January 1, 2020.

2159
02:13:34,643 --> 02:13:36,316
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So roughly, Mr. Secretary, how

2160
02:13:36,316 --> 02:13:38,075
Rep. Allan U. Ty: many, percentage-wise,

2161
02:13:38,162 --> 02:13:39,886
Rep. Allan U. Ty: how many cases do you resolve in one

2162
02:13:39,886 --> 02:13:41,542
Rep. Allan U. Ty: year for petition for review?

2163
02:13:44,043 --> 02:13:47,214
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: There's a mix depending on

2164
02:13:47,214 --> 02:13:49,506
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor. But for my

2165
02:13:49,506 --> 02:13:51,306
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: particular timeline, Your Honor,

2166
02:13:51,584 --> 02:13:52,656
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: starting in

2167
02:13:52,656 --> 02:13:55,891
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: February this year

2168
02:13:55,891 --> 02:13:57,091
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: up to

2169
02:13:57,091 --> 02:14:00,111
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: today, Your Honor, I've resolved

2170
02:14:00,111 --> 02:14:01,654
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more than 400 cases.

2171
02:14:02,211 --> 02:14:04,760
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So basically, on a year-to-year,

2172
02:14:04,846 --> 02:14:06,025
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we can submit that, Your Honor.

2173
02:14:06,453 --> 02:14:08,589
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Correct. But as you mentioned also,

2174
02:14:08,730 --> 02:14:10,301
Rep. Allan U. Ty: that's only 2.5%.

2175
02:14:10,301 --> 02:14:12,659
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So you have still

2176
02:14:12,659 --> 02:14:14,895
Rep. Allan U. Ty: a long way to go

2177
02:14:14,895 --> 02:14:16,608
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to dispose all the

2178
02:14:16,608 --> 02:14:18,482
Rep. Allan U. Ty: petitions for review. Thank you,

2179
02:14:18,583 --> 02:14:22,411
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary. Mr. Secretary,

2180
02:14:22,411 --> 02:14:23,922
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is there no timeline

2181
02:14:24,406 --> 02:14:25,776
Rep. Allan U. Ty: provided under the

2182
02:14:25,776 --> 02:14:28,637
Rep. Allan U. Ty: rules on

2183
02:14:28,637 --> 02:14:30,551
Rep. Allan U. Ty: petition for review that the

2184
02:14:30,551 --> 02:14:32,324
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Office of the Secretary must resolve

2185
02:14:32,324 --> 02:14:34,621
Rep. Allan U. Ty: those pending petitions for review?

2186
02:14:34,621 --> 02:14:36,535
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If we

2187
02:14:36,535 --> 02:14:38,067
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: do look at, if we

2188
02:14:38,067 --> 02:14:40,686
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: coordinate

2189
02:14:40,686 --> 02:14:42,802
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it with the rules of court, basically,

2190
02:14:43,043 --> 02:14:44,736
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pag tinignan po natin, may

2191
02:14:44,736 --> 02:14:46,852
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 60 days po na dini-defer ng court

2192
02:14:46,852 --> 02:14:48,866
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung case. But time

2193
02:14:48,866 --> 02:14:50,640
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and motion will tell you, hindi ho

2194
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:52,715
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: talaga kaya ng 60 days.

2195
02:14:53,903 --> 02:14:55,335
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dahil na rin po sa dami.

2196
02:14:55,800 --> 02:14:58,237
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tulad po ng nabanggit, ang nakikita po naming datos,

2197
02:14:58,706 --> 02:15:01,537
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 200 per week petitions pina-file ho dito.

2198
02:15:02,194 --> 02:15:03,487
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Since I assumed as Secretary.

2199
02:15:04,256 --> 02:15:07,931
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kaya nga po, ang amin pong strategy doon is,

2200
02:15:08,362 --> 02:15:12,956
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: my eight undersecretaries have been deputized and authorized to resolve those cases.

2201
02:15:13,556 --> 02:15:15,599
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So if it's 800 per month,

2202
02:15:15,599 --> 02:15:20,624
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang tina-target po naming clearance rate for every undersecretary is 100 per month.

2203
02:15:20,624 --> 02:15:23,202
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So that's still a...

2204
02:15:23,913 --> 02:15:27,047
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi this is in addition to their other duties and tasks.

2205
02:15:29,722 --> 02:15:34,466
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So yung 16,000 po, most probably, kailan nyo po mareresolve?

2206
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:36,681
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Given the timeline that you just stated.

2207
02:15:43,180 --> 02:15:48,236
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With our current system, especially with the publication we made for the older cases,

2208
02:15:48,874 --> 02:15:51,342
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: what we're targeting is from February,

2209
02:15:51,342 --> 02:15:58,548
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: hopefully po, after the first quarter of next year, we have a clearer picture po.

2210
02:15:58,767 --> 02:15:59,683
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: On the 16,000.

2211
02:16:00,798 --> 02:16:05,609
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you please provide this committee the breakdown of all those pending cases per year?

2212
02:16:06,113 --> 02:16:07,958
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We will, Your Honor.

2213
02:16:13,606 --> 02:16:17,050
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, can you go over your budget, proposed budget,

2214
02:16:17,435 --> 02:16:20,686
Rep. Allan U. Ty: under MOOE for fiscal year 2027?

2215
02:16:20,686 --> 02:16:28,580
Rep. Allan U. Ty: There is a sub-expense labeled as other maintenance and operating expenses.

2216
02:16:29,756 --> 02:16:32,494
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What expenses are covered by this account?

2217
02:16:38,644 --> 02:16:40,334
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under object of expenditure.

2218
02:16:40,569 --> 02:16:41,104
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary.

2219
02:17:09,158 --> 02:17:16,227
DOJ budget representative: For the proposed budget for fiscal year 2027,

2220
02:17:16,721 --> 02:17:21,838
DOJ budget representative: Other maintenance and operating expenses would amount to 114,309,000.

2221
02:17:22,523 --> 02:17:24,964
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Secretary, I'm not asking about the amount.

2222
02:17:24,964 --> 02:17:32,903
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I'm asking about the expenses covered by other MOOE.

2223
02:17:59,598 --> 02:18:02,843
DOJ budget representative: This would cover advertising expenses,

2224
02:18:02,943 --> 02:18:07,489
DOJ budget representative: Printing and publication expenses, representation expenses,

2225
02:18:07,489 --> 02:18:13,899
DOJ budget representative: transportation and delivery expenses, rent for buildings and structures and rents for equipment,

2226
02:18:14,720 --> 02:18:19,246
DOJ budget representative: then ICT software subscription and other subscription expenses, Your Honor.

2227
02:18:19,747 --> 02:18:25,974
Rep. Allan U. Ty: There is a sub-label similar to other maintenance and operating expenses.

2228
02:18:26,453 --> 02:18:27,152
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you confirm?

2229
02:18:30,665 --> 02:18:32,034
DOJ budget representative: Yes, Your Honor.

2230
02:18:32,605 --> 02:18:36,068
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What possible expenses are covered by this similar?

2231
02:18:36,087 --> 02:18:43,992
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Similar label, aside from what you have already mentioned.

2232
02:18:54,330 --> 02:19:08,873
DOJ budget representative: Other similar expenses would be [unclear].

2233
02:19:12,751 --> 02:19:22,450
DOJ budget representative: This would basically cover possible increases of those similar objects of expenditure, Your Honor, I would assume.

2234
02:19:23,281 --> 02:19:24,302
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

2235
02:19:24,812 --> 02:19:26,139
Rep. Allan U. Ty: To Commissioner Viado.

2236
02:19:27,731 --> 02:19:28,220
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner.

2237
02:19:28,445 --> 02:19:28,760
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, sir.

2238
02:19:28,760 --> 02:19:29,204
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Good afternoon.

2239
02:19:29,322 --> 02:19:32,101
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner, could you explain what the border,

2240
02:19:32,188 --> 02:19:36,565
Rep. Allan U. Ty: border management information system, or BMIS, is?

2241
02:19:39,278 --> 02:19:40,689
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sir, good afternoon.

2242
02:19:40,810 --> 02:19:50,143
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Congressman Ty, for giving us the opportunity to explain and to build trust with the Filipino people concerning this matter.

2243
02:19:50,808 --> 02:19:57,279
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The large-scale border security system is needed at this point

2244
02:19:58,670 --> 02:20:04,153
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: because this pertains to a technology-driven, AI-driven,

2245
02:20:04,697 --> 02:20:08,608
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: biometric-driven kind of border control, Your Honor.

2246
02:20:08,930 --> 02:20:14,574
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The concept really is to extend our borders beyond the actual physical border of the Philippines.

2247
02:20:15,381 --> 02:20:26,468
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We plan to institute a system wherein even if a passenger is in another country and is not qualified to enter the Philippines,

2248
02:20:26,468 --> 02:20:31,588
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: he will be prevented from doing so using this technology-driven system, Your Honor.

2249
02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:34,705
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the total project?

2250
02:20:34,741 --> 02:20:36,537
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the total project cost of BMIS?

2251
02:20:37,345 --> 02:20:41,068
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The total project cost—this is a PPP project, Your Honor.

2252
02:20:41,678 --> 02:20:51,118
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The total project cost for the first five years will be shouldered by the private proponent, amounting to about 10.7 billion, Your Honor.

2253
02:20:51,423 --> 02:21:03,873
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But in the next 20 years, they will put in additional capital and maintenance expenses, amounting to about 52.5 billion, Your Honor.

2254
02:21:03,873 --> 02:21:04,649
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much is that?

2255
02:21:04,665 --> 02:21:06,218
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much is the national government share?

2256
02:21:06,218 --> 02:21:14,380
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The government share would amount to, for passengers, the cost would be about $4, Your Honor.

2257
02:21:14,380 --> 02:21:18,462
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: $3.80 will go to the private proponent and $0.20 will go to the Philippine government, Your Honor.

2258
02:21:19,482 --> 02:21:24,219
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Is there no allocations made to BMIS by the national government?

2259
02:21:26,114 --> 02:21:33,261
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At this point, Your Honor, the intention really is to adopt a stepladder approach.

2260
02:21:34,281 --> 02:21:44,572
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Any budget that has been allocated by government at this point, sad to say, in a way, is lacking.

2261
02:21:45,512 --> 02:21:55,313
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So this PVP project will make up for any differences or any shortfalls that we might have as far as border control is concerned, Your Honor.

2262
02:21:56,742 --> 02:22:03,555
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Based on your 2024 GAA, there's an allocation of four-point-something billion for BMIS.

2263
02:22:04,734 --> 02:22:06,732
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you kindly confirm?

2264
02:22:06,732 --> 02:22:16,700
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the year 2024, I think it was 1.9 billion, Your Honor, for the e-Gates project.

2265
02:22:17,667 --> 02:22:23,118
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So there is a government fund used for the BMIS project?

2266
02:22:23,118 --> 02:22:26,140
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor, for the E-Gates project.

2267
02:22:26,140 --> 02:22:32,185
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Initially, it was funded at around 1.9 billion, but eventually it was reduced.

2268
02:22:32,185 --> 02:22:35,208
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The winning bidder submitted a proposal.

2269
02:22:35,208 --> 02:22:39,238
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Which was eventually accepted, which amounted to 1.5 billion.

2270
02:22:39,238 --> 02:22:43,268
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But, Your Honor, this only pertains to the E-Gates project.

2271
02:22:43,268 --> 02:22:50,320
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It does not pertain to any total border control system, which the private proponent is proposing, Your Honor.

2272
02:22:50,320 --> 02:22:56,497
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So the total appropriation release of 1.5 billion, as you mentioned, how much has been obligated?

2273
02:22:57,526 --> 02:22:59,585
Rep. Allan U. Ty: And how much has been disbursed?

2274
02:22:59,585 --> 02:23:01,019
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: I will confer with my colleague, Your Honor.

2275
02:23:01,019 --> 02:23:08,402
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: The allotment originally, Your Honor, was 1.9 billion.

2276
02:23:09,119 --> 02:23:13,428
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: But what has been obligated is 1.5 billion, Your Honor.

2277
02:23:13,428 --> 02:23:22,045
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: But DBM released the SARO corresponding to the 1.9 billion.

2278
02:23:22,045 --> 02:23:29,774
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So how much still remains unobligated?

2279
02:23:29,774 --> 02:23:36,625
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Your Honor, at this point, what is unobligated is the 1.3, which is the second phase of the project.

2280
02:23:36,625 --> 02:23:39,638
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Commissioner, I'm asking you first, the first phase.

2281
02:23:39,638 --> 02:23:42,650
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Don't jump on the second phase. I haven't asked you yet on the second phase.

2282
02:23:42,650 --> 02:23:44,472
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: It has been fully obligated, Your Honor.

2283
02:23:45,687 --> 02:23:46,753
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much has been released?

2284
02:23:46,753 --> 02:24:02,160
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Your Honor, as stated, the original amount was 1.9, but we have a savings of 400.

2285
02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:04,115
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: So what has been released is 1.5 billion, Your Honor.

2286
02:24:04,115 --> 02:24:05,687
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for fiscal year 2025?

2287
02:24:05,687 --> 02:24:12,940
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much of the Bureau's appropriations remain unused for this particular project?

2288
02:24:12,940 --> 02:24:15,785
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: 1.3, Your Honor.

2289
02:24:15,785 --> 02:24:27,976
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much has been obligated?

2290
02:24:27,976 --> 02:24:32,532
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Your Honor, it has not yet been obligated because the terms of reference

2291
02:24:32,532 --> 02:24:37,088
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: for the phase of this project will still be transmitted to the Department of Justice

2292
02:24:37,088 --> 02:24:38,911
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: for further review, Your Honor.

2293
02:24:38,911 --> 02:24:40,818
Rep. Allan U. Ty: But it has been released?

2294
02:24:40,818 --> 02:24:42,725
Rep. Allan U. Ty: The SARO has been released by the DBM?

2295
02:24:42,725 --> 02:24:44,632
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Yes, Your Honor. It has been released.

2296
02:24:44,632 --> 02:24:49,062
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you go over your 2025 budget?

2297
02:24:49,062 --> 02:24:53,492
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Based on the expenditure program appropriation by obligation,

2298
02:24:53,492 --> 02:24:57,922
Rep. Allan U. Ty: you have an unobligated allotment of 4 billion.

2299
02:24:57,922 --> 02:25:02,352
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you please state what these unobligated

2300
02:25:02,352 --> 02:25:05,675
Rep. Allan U. Ty: allotments are?

2301
02:25:05,675 --> 02:25:09,774
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: Primarily, Your Honor, it pertains to the E-Gates project.

2302
02:25:09,774 --> 02:25:11,142
Bureau of Immigration budget representative: It's unobligated.

2303
02:25:11,142 --> 02:25:16,241
Rep. Allan U. Ty: You mentioned a while ago that you have obligated 1.5 billion.

2304
02:25:16,241 --> 02:25:19,300
Rep. Allan U. Ty: The only unobligated amount is only 400 million.

2305
02:25:19,300 --> 02:25:25,418
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How come you have 4.071 billion unobligated in 2025?

2306
02:25:25,418 --> 02:25:29,437
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, if I may read the summary, Your Honor.

2307
02:25:29,437 --> 02:25:32,450
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The implementation schedule for

2308
02:25:32,450 --> 02:25:35,464
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the E-Gates projects Phase 1, 2, and 3

2309
02:25:35,464 --> 02:25:38,478
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: was affected by circumstances beyond the Bureau's control.

2310
02:25:38,478 --> 02:25:42,497
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So Phase 1, which was funded under the Fiscal Year 2024 GAA

2311
02:25:42,497 --> 02:25:45,511
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: in the amount of 1.5 billion,

2312
02:25:45,511 --> 02:25:47,520
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: was timely subjected to competitive bidding

2313
02:25:47,520 --> 02:25:49,529
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but was declared a failure of bidding.

2314
02:25:49,529 --> 02:25:52,543
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It necessitated, Your Honor, a rebidding process.

2315
02:25:52,543 --> 02:25:54,552
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And during the rebidding process,

2316
02:25:54,552 --> 02:25:56,562
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the Bureau received the donation of E-Gates

2317
02:25:56,562 --> 02:25:59,576
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: from the new NAIA Infrastructure Corporation

2318
02:25:59,576 --> 02:26:01,585
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for NAIA Terminals 1 and 3,

2319
02:26:01,585 --> 02:26:03,594
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: which required the revision

2320
02:26:03,594 --> 02:26:06,608
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of the approved technical specifications and deployment plan

2321
02:26:06,608 --> 02:26:09,622
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to avoid any duplication of procurement

2322
02:26:09,622 --> 02:26:12,636
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and maximize the utilization of government resources.

2323
02:26:12,636 --> 02:26:16,654
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Consequently, the contract was awarded in December 2025.

2324
02:26:16,654 --> 02:26:19,668
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Now, as the project is being implemented in phases,

2325
02:26:19,668 --> 02:26:21,677
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the delay in Phase 1 necessarily affected

2326
02:26:21,677 --> 02:26:24,691
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the procurement schedule of Phase 2.

2327
02:26:24,691 --> 02:26:28,710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For Fiscal Year 2025, amounting to 1.3 billion.

2328
02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:30,719
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And Phase 3, Fiscal Year 2026,

2329
02:26:30,719 --> 02:26:33,733
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: amounting to 565 million.

2330
02:26:33,733 --> 02:26:37,752
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The Bureau has since completed the required revisions

2331
02:26:37,752 --> 02:26:39,761
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: revisions and is expediting, Your Honor,

2332
02:26:39,761 --> 02:26:42,775
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the remaining procurement activities.

2333
02:26:42,775 --> 02:26:45,789
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And the Bureau assures that it will be able to award Phase 2

2334
02:26:45,789 --> 02:26:49,807
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and other Fiscal Year 2025 and 2026 funded projects

2335
02:26:49,807 --> 02:26:50,812
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: within the current year

2336
02:26:50,812 --> 02:26:53,826
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and commits to fully implementing the modernization program

2337
02:26:53,826 --> 02:26:55,835
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as scheduled, Your Honor.

2338
02:26:55,835 --> 02:26:58,163
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Last question, Cong. Allan.

2339
02:26:58,163 --> 02:26:59,184
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I have...

2340
02:27:00,205 --> 02:27:02,247
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I'll do my second round, Mr. Chairman.

2341
02:27:02,247 --> 02:27:03,085
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Okay.

2342
02:27:03,085 --> 02:27:04,762
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Yes, sir. Thank you.

2343
02:27:08,240 --> 02:27:12,303
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line, from the majority,

2344
02:27:12,303 --> 02:27:15,429
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Solomon Chungalao.

2345
02:27:15,439 --> 02:27:17,453
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Thank you, Chairman.

2346
02:27:17,453 --> 02:27:21,482
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I just ask one question.

2347
02:27:21,482 --> 02:27:23,496
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: My major question.

2348
02:27:23,496 --> 02:27:25,510
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: One or two, perhaps.

2349
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:27,525
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Hypothetical.

2350
02:27:27,525 --> 02:27:31,553
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: It pertains to the right of the government

2351
02:27:31,553 --> 02:27:33,568
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: to expropriate private property

2352
02:27:33,568 --> 02:27:35,582
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: for public use.

2353
02:27:35,582 --> 02:27:38,603
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Now, if an agency exercises

2354
02:27:38,603 --> 02:27:42,632
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: the power of expropriation,

2355
02:27:42,632 --> 02:27:44,646
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: acquires private property

2356
02:27:44,646 --> 02:27:46,661
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: for public use,

2357
02:27:46,661 --> 02:27:48,675
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: but it's a private corporation

2358
02:27:48,675 --> 02:27:51,696
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: pays the value,

2359
02:27:51,696 --> 02:27:53,711
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is there a proper exercise

2360
02:27:53,711 --> 02:27:55,725
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: of the power of expropriation,

2361
02:27:55,725 --> 02:28:03,349
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Secretary?

2362
02:28:03,359 --> 02:28:06,512
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Elements for the proper exercise

2363
02:28:06,512 --> 02:28:08,614
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of expropriate...

2364
02:28:08,614 --> 02:28:10,716
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the right of eminent domain.

2365
02:28:10,716 --> 02:28:12,818
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: One, public purpose.

2366
02:28:12,818 --> 02:28:14,919
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Second, it's a...

2367
02:28:14,919 --> 02:28:17,021
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it's a...

2368
02:28:17,021 --> 02:28:19,123
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: public purpose of the ano, no?

2369
02:28:19,123 --> 02:28:22,276
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And it would be utilizing public funds.

2370
02:28:22,276 --> 02:28:24,378
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But, Your Honor,

2371
02:28:24,378 --> 02:28:26,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: as in prior projects, no?

2372
02:28:26,480 --> 02:28:28,582
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: There have been projects that

2373
02:28:28,582 --> 02:28:30,684
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: there are engagements by the government

2374
02:28:30,684 --> 02:28:32,786
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: entering into

2375
02:28:32,786 --> 02:28:35,939
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: various contractual agreements

2376
02:28:35,939 --> 02:28:38,040
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: with the private sector

2377
02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:40,142
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: and it would be possible, no,

2378
02:28:40,142 --> 02:28:41,193
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: it would be possible

2379
02:28:41,193 --> 02:28:44,346
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that private funds might be used

2380
02:28:44,346 --> 02:28:46,448
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to procure portions

2381
02:28:46,448 --> 02:28:48,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of the right-of-way, Your Honor.

2382
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:53,288
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: So, it's possible that you can use

2383
02:28:53,288 --> 02:28:55,160
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: private funds to pay

2384
02:28:55,160 --> 02:28:57,969
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: just compensation?

2385
02:28:57,969 --> 02:28:59,841
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: It's...

2386
02:28:59,841 --> 02:29:05,702
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I'll be direct with the Secretary.

2387
02:29:05,702 --> 02:29:08,511
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I raised this in the 18th Congress.

2388
02:29:08,511 --> 02:29:09,447
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Kasi sa amin,

2389
02:29:09,447 --> 02:29:12,256
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: NIA exercises expropriation.

2390
02:29:12,256 --> 02:29:14,128
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: They acquired property

2391
02:29:14,128 --> 02:29:16,000
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: of farmers around

2392
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:17,873
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: the Magat Dam

2393
02:29:17,873 --> 02:29:19,745
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: for public use.

2394
02:29:19,745 --> 02:29:20,681
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: But the one who paid it

2395
02:29:20,681 --> 02:29:22,554
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is a private corporation.

2396
02:29:22,554 --> 02:29:29,950
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Pwede ba 'yon?

2397
02:29:29,960 --> 02:29:32,118
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I don't think that's within the realm

2398
02:29:32,118 --> 02:29:35,354
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of our legal system, Your Honor.

2399
02:29:35,354 --> 02:29:37,512
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Private funds cannot be used

2400
02:29:37,512 --> 02:29:39,670
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in that manner, Your Honor.

2401
02:29:39,680 --> 02:29:42,085
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: That, in that case,

2402
02:29:42,085 --> 02:29:44,491
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is the private...

2403
02:29:44,491 --> 02:29:46,896
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: is the public...

2404
02:29:46,896 --> 02:29:48,099
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: public corporation

2405
02:29:48,099 --> 02:29:50,505
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: or the public entity

2406
02:29:50,505 --> 02:29:52,910
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: liable for anything?

2407
02:29:52,920 --> 02:29:59,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes. We have to check the circumstances, Your Honor. Yes, possible po, Your Honor.

2408
02:29:59,439 --> 02:30:09,389
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: What would be the liability, any administrative or criminal liability?

2409
02:30:09,399 --> 02:30:20,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, if you may, we need additional factual circumstances to make a determination on that matter, Your Honor.

2410
02:30:20,800 --> 02:30:25,016
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Well, I'm laying the facts. The facts are simple.

2411
02:30:27,412 --> 02:30:42,667
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: They raised the level of the dam to the level that it acquired private properties, supposedly for irrigation.

2412
02:30:43,698 --> 02:30:59,773
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: But when they were supposed to pay for the just compensation, it was a private corporation who wanted to pay and paid them, pero hindi patas.

2413
02:30:59,773 --> 02:31:08,795
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Is there anything wrong in that case?

2414
02:31:10,403 --> 02:31:11,070
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Secretary? Ano 'yung right—anong ROW 'yun?

2415
02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:21,705
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Under the existing ROW Act, Your Honor, if I get the briefing right, what will be used for expropriation should be public funds.

2416
02:31:22,586 --> 02:31:32,150
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So any violation of that law would make the person liable if it violates that particular law, Your Honor.

2417
02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:33,844
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: The agency, the agency—

2418
02:31:34,566 --> 02:31:37,903
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: NIA violated the law.

2419
02:31:38,926 --> 02:31:48,037
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: What is the crime? What is the liability of NIA, administratively or criminally?

2420
02:31:48,488 --> 02:31:50,322
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: That's what I'm asking.

2421
02:31:50,924 --> 02:31:53,269
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Kasi hindi inayos 'to, eh. Oo, hindi kasi...

2422
02:31:53,279 --> 02:32:03,070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, we, my apologies, but if you will allow the department, we can give you the proper briefing on that.

2423
02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:06,190
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We can give you the report on that.

2424
02:32:06,200 --> 02:32:10,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But for any action of an individual, it can arise...

2425
02:32:10,040 --> 02:32:13,401
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It can arise to criminal or administrative liability.

2426
02:32:13,619 --> 02:32:14,232
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: That's possible.

2427
02:32:14,607 --> 02:32:18,344
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And also from a criminal act, a civil liability will also ensue.

2428
02:32:18,957 --> 02:32:26,687
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So based on the particular act, Your Honor, we need to see with more particularity the circumstances, Your Honor.

2429
02:32:27,023 --> 02:32:28,190
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: My apologies, Your Honor.

2430
02:32:28,200 --> 02:32:32,510
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Okay, I will just ask perhaps your office for your legal opinion.

2431
02:32:32,520 --> 02:32:35,550
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Because the farmers are complaining.

2432
02:32:35,560 --> 02:32:38,230
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I brought this out in the 18th Congress.

2433
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:38,790
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I told them.

2434
02:32:38,800 --> 02:32:54,510
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Ayusin ninyo 'yan. Pero hindi inayos hanggang ngayon. So the farmers are coming back. Ang ginagawa nila kasi, binabarat 'yung iba, binabayaran 'yung iba. Hindi naman puwede 'yun, 'di ba?

2435
02:32:54,520 --> 02:32:58,770
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, Your Honor. The ultimate basis for everything is fairness and justice.

2436
02:32:58,770 --> 02:33:04,481
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So flowing from that, if there's something unfair, probably there's a violation of the law.

2437
02:33:04,481 --> 02:33:11,715
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So if it's an unfair act, then there's a law violated.

2438
02:33:12,381 --> 02:33:15,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So we'll just coordinate with your office, Your Honor.

2439
02:33:15,439 --> 02:33:17,543
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: Okay, I'll just write your office.

2440
02:33:17,709 --> 02:33:23,630
Rep. Solomon R. Chungalao: I will limit myself to allow my other colleagues to be able to ask questions.

2441
02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:25,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Thank you very much.

2442
02:33:25,439 --> 02:33:26,782
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan: May I interject, Mr. Chairman?

2443
02:33:29,325 --> 02:33:36,790
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan: On the issue of just compensation, related to the question, Mr. Chairman.

2444
02:33:36,800 --> 02:33:41,454
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Yes, Congressman Domogan, it's the time of Cong. Chungalao.

2445
02:33:41,753 --> 02:33:45,454
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: There are a lot of other interpellators waiting.

2446
02:33:45,810 --> 02:33:49,847
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Maybe we can bring it up on your time.

2447
02:33:49,847 --> 02:33:50,595
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: May time pa siya.

2448
02:33:54,548 --> 02:33:57,950
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Maybe you can bring it up on your time, Congressman Domogan.

2449
02:33:57,960 --> 02:34:01,790
Rep. Mauricio G. Domogan: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2450
02:34:01,800 --> 02:34:04,115
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Sol Chungalao.

2451
02:34:04,418 --> 02:34:07,681
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: With the indulgence of Cong Sarah Elago, we needed to...

2452
02:34:08,497 --> 02:34:17,110
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: At least let Cong. Tinio come first because he has other obligations to go to.

2453
02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:17,878
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Chair, thank you.

2454
02:34:18,010 --> 02:34:22,378
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unang-una, nagpapasalamat ako kay Congresswoman Sarah Elago for being so generous and yielding her time.

2455
02:34:22,378 --> 02:34:24,521
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I thought I was going to ask questions after Congressman Ty.

2456
02:34:24,603 --> 02:34:25,411
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Apparently not.

2457
02:34:26,960 --> 02:34:29,332
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Anyway, a few questions here.

2458
02:34:29,581 --> 02:34:35,501
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unang-una, doon ho tayo kay Administrator Benitez

2459
02:34:36,947 --> 02:34:44,900
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Parole and Probation Administration. Meron ho kayong panukalang batas na itinutulak dito sa Kongreso para i-modernize ang PPA.

2460
02:34:45,690 --> 02:34:50,051
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At iyan ay bilang tugon sa mga problemang hinaharap ng PPA, tama po ba?

2461
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:53,957
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: With the indulgence of the Secretary, yes, sir.

2462
02:34:54,723 --> 02:34:58,425
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maaari ho bang i-outline lang o banggitin ano iyong mga problemang iyon?

2463
02:34:59,520 --> 02:35:03,549
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Ang problema po namin ay tungkol sa modernization.

2464
02:35:03,765 --> 02:35:05,180
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Mga entry-level salaries

2465
02:35:05,180 --> 02:35:07,519
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Entry-level salaries.

2466
02:35:08,148 --> 02:35:09,111
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ng aming probation

2467
02:35:09,131 --> 02:35:09,780
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: officers ay mababa.

2468
02:35:09,780 --> 02:35:12,983
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: parang 30 years

2469
02:35:12,983 --> 02:35:13,986
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: behind po kami

2470
02:35:13,986 --> 02:35:16,167
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: sa SG level nila

2471
02:35:16,167 --> 02:35:18,152
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: bukod po dyan

2472
02:35:18,152 --> 02:35:20,943
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Bukod po diyan, meron po kayong mga kliyente.

2473
02:35:20,943 --> 02:35:22,830
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: pag sinasabing kliente tinutukoy po

2474
02:35:22,830 --> 02:35:24,678
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: natin dyan yung mga probationers

2475
02:35:24,678 --> 02:35:26,958
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: natin diyan iyong mga probationers, parolees, conditional pardonees

2476
02:35:26,958 --> 02:35:28,628
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: at qualified offenders.

2477
02:35:28,628 --> 02:35:29,257
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama po ba?

2478
02:35:30,240 --> 02:35:32,930
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: meron po bang ideal ratio

2479
02:35:32,930 --> 02:35:34,427
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa classroom

2480
02:35:34,427 --> 02:35:35,661
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may ratio na ideal

2481
02:35:35,661 --> 02:35:38,816
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: one teacher to 30 students

2482
02:35:38,816 --> 02:35:40,131
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano po ba yung ideal ratio?

2483
02:35:41,203 --> 02:35:42,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for the information of the committee

2484
02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:44,256
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: last 2025

2485
02:35:44,256 --> 02:35:47,077
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: we processed 175,000

2486
02:35:48,045 --> 02:35:49,560
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: probationers

2487
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:51,104
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ilan po yung staff?

2488
02:35:51,847 --> 02:35:52,824
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: yung staff po namin

2489
02:35:52,824 --> 02:35:54,329
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: more or less mga

2490
02:35:54,329 --> 02:35:56,381
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 875

2491
02:35:56,381 --> 02:35:58,570
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ang case load ng isang

2492
02:35:58,570 --> 02:36:00,583
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: probation officer ay

2493
02:36:00,583 --> 02:36:01,853
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 1 is to 400

2494
02:36:01,853 --> 02:36:04,824
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 is to 400, ano po yung ideal ratio

2495
02:36:04,824 --> 02:36:05,664
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa pagkakaalam ninyo?

2496
02:36:05,664 --> 02:36:07,755
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ideal ratio po ay 1 is to 50

2497
02:36:07,755 --> 02:36:09,846
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sino po nagsabi ng ideal ratio na yan?

2498
02:36:10,355 --> 02:36:11,488
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: UNODC po,

2499
02:36:11,488 --> 02:36:13,638
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

2500
02:36:13,638 --> 02:36:15,925
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so medyo hindi po tayo

2501
02:36:15,925 --> 02:36:17,449
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagko-comply don

2502
02:36:17,449 --> 02:36:19,912
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at paano po ito nakakapekto sa trabaho

2503
02:36:19,912 --> 02:36:21,768
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at servisyo sa lipunan?

2504
02:36:22,120 --> 02:36:23,799
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: during my term as the

2505
02:36:23,799 --> 02:36:25,558
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: administrator of the PPA

2506
02:36:25,558 --> 02:36:27,457
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: we identified problems

2507
02:36:27,457 --> 02:36:29,856
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: within the system

2508
02:36:29,856 --> 02:36:31,035
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and we identified

2509
02:36:31,035 --> 02:36:32,694
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 55,000

2510
02:36:32,694 --> 02:36:35,433
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: unaccounted for or not

2511
02:36:35,433 --> 02:36:37,332
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: in the system

2512
02:36:37,412 --> 02:36:41,190
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and we gave this message

2513
02:36:41,190 --> 02:36:42,729
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: to the Secretary of Justice

2514
02:36:42,729 --> 02:36:45,388
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and the Philippine anti-drugs

2515
02:36:45,388 --> 02:36:46,987
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: PADS

2516
02:36:46,987 --> 02:36:48,426
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: supported us with

2517
02:36:48,426 --> 02:36:50,285
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 50 million per year

2518
02:36:50,285 --> 02:36:52,964
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: it is now a tier 1

2519
02:36:52,964 --> 02:36:53,803
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: expense

2520
02:36:53,803 --> 02:36:55,703
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: we are on our second year

2521
02:36:55,703 --> 02:36:57,901
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and ngayon po 1 is to

2522
02:36:57,901 --> 02:37:00,520
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 320 na lang po ang case load

2523
02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:02,518
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: but still behind the 1 is to 50

2524
02:37:02,518 --> 02:37:03,722
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sinasabi nyo

2525
02:37:03,722 --> 02:37:05,292
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: so insufficient staffing

2526
02:37:05,292 --> 02:37:06,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isang problema, tinukoy nyo

2527
02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:07,229
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: excessive cases

2528
02:37:07,229 --> 02:37:08,065
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: case load.

2529
02:37:08,983 --> 02:37:11,246
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Organizationally, mayroon problem tayo

2530
02:37:11,246 --> 02:37:11,878
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa structure?

2531
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:15,478
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Because we promoted about

2532
02:37:15,478 --> 02:37:17,207
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: 300 individuals

2533
02:37:17,207 --> 02:37:19,727
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: and these 300 individuals

2534
02:37:19,727 --> 02:37:21,705
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: including probation officers

2535
02:37:21,705 --> 02:37:23,975
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: shed their level

2536
02:37:23,975 --> 02:37:25,933
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: kaya may vacant pa rin po kami na

2537
02:37:25,933 --> 02:37:27,995
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: three hundred—about 275.

2538
02:37:28,453 --> 02:37:30,369
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos binanggit nyo na

2539
02:37:30,369 --> 02:37:32,014
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong benepisyo

2540
02:37:32,014 --> 02:37:32,577
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mababa.

2541
02:37:34,680 --> 02:37:36,321
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: What about the technological

2542
02:37:36,321 --> 02:37:38,305
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: systems? Kamusta po tayo

2543
02:37:38,305 --> 02:37:40,003
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: diyan?

2544
02:37:40,003 --> 02:37:41,472
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: I'm happy to inform the committee that our

2545
02:37:41,472 --> 02:37:43,532
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: computer system is

2546
02:37:43,532 --> 02:37:45,345
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: at par dun sa

2547
02:37:45,345 --> 02:37:47,443
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: NJIS, and

2548
02:37:47,443 --> 02:37:49,542
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: anytime that they turn on the computer

2549
02:37:49,542 --> 02:37:51,240
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: system, we will be compliant.

2550
02:37:51,240 --> 02:37:53,067
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, so binanggit nyo yung ratio

2551
02:37:53,067 --> 02:37:54,969
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na hindi medyo

2552
02:37:54,969 --> 02:37:56,983
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: talagang dehado yung mga staff

2553
02:37:56,983 --> 02:37:58,363
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil sa dami po ng kliyente.

2554
02:37:59,034 --> 02:38:00,488
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang tugon diyan ay

2555
02:38:00,488 --> 02:38:02,539
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: either paramihin—pag pinarami

2556
02:38:02,539 --> 02:38:04,199
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po yung staff, pinalaki yung staff, lalaki

2557
02:38:04,199 --> 02:38:04,609
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong gastos.

2558
02:38:04,628 --> 02:38:07,518
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Isang bahagi dyan ay

2559
02:38:07,518 --> 02:38:08,618
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung hindi mo mapapalaki,

2560
02:38:08,991 --> 02:38:10,184
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: i-upskill na lang sila. Tama?

2561
02:38:10,520 --> 02:38:11,293
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Tama po yun.

2562
02:38:11,565 --> 02:38:13,974
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay. Pag may upskilling, may gastos din.

2563
02:38:14,678 --> 02:38:15,610
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: May gastos po.

2564
02:38:16,450 --> 02:38:18,995
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So ang tanong ko po, alam po, excited

2565
02:38:18,995 --> 02:38:21,699
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kayo sumagot, pero yung gastos po ba

2566
02:38:21,699 --> 02:38:23,812
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for upskilling dahil hindi kayo nabigyan

2567
02:38:23,812 --> 02:38:26,016
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: karagdagan na pwesto para sa staff,

2568
02:38:26,516 --> 02:38:27,880
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay nakapaloob ba sa

2569
02:38:27,880 --> 02:38:30,038
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget na pino-propose?

2570
02:38:30,470 --> 02:38:32,133
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Nasa wish list po namin

2571
02:38:32,133 --> 02:38:34,739
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: ang improvement ng mga skills

2572
02:38:34,739 --> 02:38:35,792
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: at

2573
02:38:36,125 --> 02:38:37,880
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: mga probation officers.

2574
02:38:38,250 --> 02:38:38,933
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Magkano po iyon?

2575
02:38:39,192 --> 02:38:41,206
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Ito po ay ladderized three-year

2576
02:38:41,206 --> 02:38:43,442
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: probation officer development program

2577
02:38:43,442 --> 02:38:46,307
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: na 8,198,000.

2578
02:38:46,399 --> 02:38:47,239
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi napagbigyan?

2579
02:38:48,120 --> 02:38:48,595
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Hindi po.

2580
02:38:49,727 --> 02:38:50,904
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Wish list pa po namin.

2581
02:38:51,040 --> 02:38:53,125
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sana po sa ating

2582
02:38:53,125 --> 02:38:56,222
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mapag-isipan yan

2583
02:38:56,222 --> 02:38:57,095
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at kung maaari,

2584
02:38:57,433 --> 02:38:59,378
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nakita ninyo naman, napakahirap ng laban nila,

2585
02:38:59,557 --> 02:39:01,641
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napakaraming kliyente na sineservisyuhan.

2586
02:39:01,820 --> 02:39:03,646
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung hindi po mapaparami ang mga pwesto,

2587
02:39:03,746 --> 02:39:05,493
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dapat at least dagdagan po

2588
02:39:05,493 --> 02:39:07,399
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang training programs para

2589
02:39:07,399 --> 02:39:09,364
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: i-upskill sila at magampanan nila

2590
02:39:09,364 --> 02:39:10,635
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: iyong katungkulan sa batas.

2591
02:39:11,250 --> 02:39:12,997
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At bukod doon, napansin ko, ang laki po

2592
02:39:12,997 --> 02:39:14,506
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng binaba ng budget ninyo.

2593
02:39:15,022 --> 02:39:17,504
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kung titingnan iyong General Administration Support Services,

2594
02:39:17,504 --> 02:39:19,489
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: mababa ng 35.97%.

2595
02:39:20,680 --> 02:39:21,098
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Opo.

2596
02:39:21,257 --> 02:39:23,247
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Majority po yun ay because we are

2597
02:39:23,247 --> 02:39:25,277
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: compliant with the ISSP

2598
02:39:25,277 --> 02:39:27,148
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: tungkol po sa computer

2599
02:39:27,148 --> 02:39:29,576
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: system.

2600
02:39:29,576 --> 02:39:31,267
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Oo, pero ibig sabihin din iyon, bagamat compliant kayo sa computer

2601
02:39:31,267 --> 02:39:33,098
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: system, ibig sabihin po ninyo, yung ibang

2602
02:39:33,098 --> 02:39:35,148
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahilingan ninyo tungkol doon sa

2603
02:39:35,148 --> 02:39:37,456
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pagmamodernize ng PPA, na nakapaloob

2604
02:39:37,456 --> 02:39:39,327
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: po doon sa mga panukalang

2605
02:39:39,327 --> 02:39:41,317
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: batas na sinusunod ninyo, hindi po

2606
02:39:41,317 --> 02:39:42,432
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: napondohan. Tama?

2607
02:39:42,750 --> 02:39:43,655
PPA Administrator Bienvenido E. Benitez Jr.: Tama po yun.

2608
02:39:43,655 --> 02:39:44,012
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

2609
02:39:45,439 --> 02:39:48,026
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next question po. Dito naman po

2610
02:39:48,026 --> 02:39:48,772
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tayo sa

2611
02:39:48,772 --> 02:39:52,962
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: public attorney's office.

2612
02:39:53,399 --> 02:39:53,919
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you, sir.

2613
02:39:54,680 --> 02:39:56,442
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kay Chief Persida Acosta, aking

2614
02:39:56,442 --> 02:39:58,944
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kababayan

2615
02:39:58,944 --> 02:40:00,186
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa Bataan.

2616
02:40:01,247 --> 02:40:03,109
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unang-una, nagpapasalamat sa tulong

2617
02:40:03,109 --> 02:40:03,609
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PAO.

2618
02:40:05,071 --> 02:40:07,393
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nakakatuwa na lumaki iyong salary

2619
02:40:07,393 --> 02:40:09,115
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng PAO at dahil diyan, marahil

2620
02:40:09,115 --> 02:40:10,216
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: marami na kayong applications.

2621
02:40:11,217 --> 02:40:13,239
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kumusta naman po iyong caseload ng bawat PAO?

2622
02:40:13,980 --> 02:40:15,982
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam ko, nakakatugon

2623
02:40:15,982 --> 02:40:17,784
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ho ba kayo? Feeling nyo ho ba?

2624
02:40:17,924 --> 02:40:18,905
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: You're spread too thin?

2625
02:40:19,466 --> 02:40:21,428
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ano ho ang tugon nyo doon?

2626
02:40:23,640 --> 02:40:24,726
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: With the permission of the

2627
02:40:24,726 --> 02:40:26,544
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: chair, ang bawat abogado

2628
02:40:26,544 --> 02:40:28,203
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: po ay humahawak ng

2629
02:40:28,203 --> 02:40:30,396
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 315 cases per month.

2630
02:40:31,166 --> 02:40:32,371
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Is that sa inyong

2631
02:40:32,371 --> 02:40:34,287
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tantiya? Iyan po ba

2632
02:40:34,287 --> 02:40:35,058
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay sobra?

2633
02:40:36,243 --> 02:40:37,468
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sakto lang o kulang?

2634
02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:39,754
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Sobrang overwork po ang PAO.

2635
02:40:39,875 --> 02:40:41,711
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Kaya pag naka-five years, nagpipiskal,

2636
02:40:42,155 --> 02:40:43,366
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: nag-MTC judge,

2637
02:40:43,830 --> 02:40:45,948
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: nagiging training officer lang po ako ng mga

2638
02:40:45,948 --> 02:40:48,329
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: public attorneys. Para maging justice

2639
02:40:48,329 --> 02:40:50,145
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: din. May mga justice na rin po tayo sa

2640
02:40:50,145 --> 02:40:52,303
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Supreme Court dalawa galing sa PAO.

2641
02:40:53,292 --> 02:40:54,583
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung budget nyo,

2642
02:40:54,664 --> 02:40:55,874
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na po na ko, tumaas?

2643
02:40:56,359 --> 02:40:58,134
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tumaas po dahil mayroon pong

2644
02:40:58,134 --> 02:41:00,333
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: dati pang added 87

2645
02:41:00,333 --> 02:41:02,431
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: items, ngayon po lang napondohan.

2646
02:41:03,319 --> 02:41:04,346
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po bang

2647
02:41:04,346 --> 02:41:06,097
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung sinasabi yung kakulangan sa

2648
02:41:06,287 --> 02:41:08,038
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: amin ng abogado para tugunan yung

2649
02:41:08,038 --> 02:41:09,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: caseload, lumalaking caseload,

2650
02:41:09,997 --> 02:41:11,767
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun po ba meron pong response

2651
02:41:11,767 --> 02:41:13,936
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na nakapaloob at sinasalamin

2652
02:41:13,936 --> 02:41:15,591
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng budget? In other words, tumaas na to,

2653
02:41:16,086 --> 02:41:17,646
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tumaas dahil sa yung mga

2654
02:41:17,646 --> 02:41:19,377
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: problema binanggit nyo. Mandatory

2655
02:41:19,377 --> 02:41:21,337
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increases lang po yun. Mandatory

2656
02:41:21,337 --> 02:41:23,544
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: increases. So hindi pa rin nabibigyang-pansin.

2657
02:41:23,924 --> 02:41:25,218
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Meron po ba kayong wish

2658
02:41:25,218 --> 02:41:27,425
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na sa wish list na hindi napagbigyan?

2659
02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:29,512
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Meron pa po kaming wishlist.

2660
02:41:29,949 --> 02:41:30,821
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Humihingi po kami ng

2661
02:41:30,821 --> 02:41:32,632
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 559 additional.

2662
02:41:33,526 --> 02:41:35,250
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Dahil gaya ng sinabi ko po kanina,

2663
02:41:35,839 --> 02:41:37,802
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: counterpart po namin na

2664
02:41:37,802 --> 02:41:39,482
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: prosecutors, SolGen,

2665
02:41:40,245 --> 02:41:42,013
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: labor cases may hawak din

2666
02:41:42,013 --> 02:41:43,845
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng PAO. Meron din po kami

2667
02:41:43,845 --> 02:41:45,612
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mediation and arbitration.

2668
02:41:46,332 --> 02:41:48,404
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Dahil meron tayong PAO versus

2669
02:41:48,404 --> 02:41:50,739
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PAO cases, mini-mediate na lang namin

2670
02:41:50,739 --> 02:41:52,309
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para mawala ang conflict.

2671
02:41:53,160 --> 02:41:54,913
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tapos meron pa rin tayong counterpart,

2672
02:41:55,169 --> 02:41:57,118
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mga private lawyers from the IBP

2673
02:41:57,118 --> 02:41:58,831
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: at saka regular private lawyers.

2674
02:41:59,343 --> 02:42:00,840
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: May preliminary investigation,

2675
02:42:01,155 --> 02:42:02,455
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may inquest duties po,

2676
02:42:02,986 --> 02:42:04,266
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may barangay outreach,

2677
02:42:04,266 --> 02:42:06,294
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: at marami po kaming trabaho

2678
02:42:06,294 --> 02:42:07,023
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: talaga sa PAO.

2679
02:42:07,062 --> 02:42:07,850
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Legal counseling.

2680
02:42:08,441 --> 02:42:11,040
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tina-tap na rin kami ng DMW at OWWA

2681
02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:13,344
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para sa mga OFWs abroad.

2682
02:42:13,639 --> 02:42:15,550
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nagpapalipad po tayo ng mga PAO lawyers

2683
02:42:15,550 --> 02:42:16,593
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pag may caravan.

2684
02:42:17,164 --> 02:42:19,291
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tumutulong din po tayo sa katarungan

2685
02:42:19,291 --> 02:42:21,693
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pambarangay caravan ng ating DOJ,

2686
02:42:21,851 --> 02:42:22,776
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Serbisyo Caravan.

2687
02:42:23,525 --> 02:42:25,533
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Napakaraming pong gawa ng ating PAO.

2688
02:42:25,651 --> 02:42:27,089
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Meron din tayong legal counseling

2689
02:42:27,089 --> 02:42:29,157
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: by text, messenger, viber.

2690
02:42:29,767 --> 02:42:31,913
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nagbibigay po tayo ng 500 pesos

2691
02:42:31,913 --> 02:42:33,469
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: per month para sa ating lawyers

2692
02:42:33,469 --> 02:42:35,576
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para makapag-counseling din sila

2693
02:42:35,576 --> 02:42:36,580
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: via social media.

2694
02:42:36,600 --> 02:42:37,958
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero hindi po nakumbinsi ang DBM, ano?

2695
02:42:39,399 --> 02:42:40,262
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nakaintindihan po namin

2696
02:42:40,262 --> 02:42:41,504
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ang kakulangan ng pondo

2697
02:42:41,504 --> 02:42:43,524
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pero nakita natin iyong PAO kanina

2698
02:42:43,524 --> 02:42:45,818
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: parang kudlit lang ang budget

2699
02:42:45,818 --> 02:42:46,660
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng DOJ

2700
02:42:46,660 --> 02:42:50,090
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: at nakiki-commiserate po ako sa mga kasama

2701
02:42:50,090 --> 02:42:51,942
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ko sa DOJ, gaya ng NBI,

2702
02:42:52,973 --> 02:42:54,552
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PPA, mga nabawasan,

2703
02:42:54,741 --> 02:42:55,667
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sana po ibalik.

2704
02:42:56,193 --> 02:42:57,940
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Lalo ang NBI, gusto ko pong sana

2705
02:42:57,940 --> 02:43:00,381
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: dagdagan po ng intel dahil napakasipag

2706
02:43:00,381 --> 02:43:01,539
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: po ng mga NBI natin.

2707
02:43:01,560 --> 02:43:04,138
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay, masipag po talaga yan. Dapat talagang lakihin ang kanilang pondo.

2708
02:43:04,138 --> 02:43:04,925
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Agree po ako diyan.

2709
02:43:06,040 --> 02:43:08,286
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya nila, technical service, talagang

2710
02:43:08,286 --> 02:43:09,712
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: labor of love po.

2711
02:43:10,187 --> 02:43:11,850
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: O, kayo rin po, labor of love.

2712
02:43:12,002 --> 02:43:15,134
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At dahil dyan, dapat mahalin kayo, dagdagan ang inyong pondo.

2713
02:43:15,760 --> 02:43:16,213
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tama po.

2714
02:43:16,232 --> 02:43:17,944
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Ang unang-unang sumusuporta ang PAO yan po.

2715
02:43:18,062 --> 02:43:19,656
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Pag nasa lalawigan kayo,

2716
02:43:20,030 --> 02:43:22,254
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: nakakasalamuha iyong mga constituents ninyo,

2717
02:43:22,706 --> 02:43:24,398
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: and dapat abogado po kayo.

2718
02:43:24,713 --> 02:43:26,425
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Katulad ko po, lumalapit sa akin,

2719
02:43:26,543 --> 02:43:28,767
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: dumadaing, at nangakailangan po talagang

2720
02:43:28,767 --> 02:43:29,987
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: na serbisyo legal mula sa PAO.

2721
02:43:30,006 --> 02:43:31,836
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Mayroon po tayong bagong project noong taong ito

2722
02:43:31,836 --> 02:43:33,509
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: para sa indigenous peoples.

2723
02:43:33,962 --> 02:43:35,654
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Nakarating na po ako sa Benguet,

2724
02:43:36,421 --> 02:43:37,838
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Visayas, Mindanao, Mangyan.

2725
02:43:38,527 --> 02:43:40,455
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Talagang kailangan po hanggang sa kabundukan

2726
02:43:40,455 --> 02:43:41,754
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng mga public attorneys.

2727
02:43:42,167 --> 02:43:44,253
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: At pangarap ko sana, bawat embahada,

2728
02:43:44,863 --> 02:43:46,712
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: hindi lang may NBI agent doon,

2729
02:43:46,771 --> 02:43:48,405
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may PAO lawyer din, tutulong

2730
02:43:48,405 --> 02:43:50,313
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa ating OFWs, makipag-coordinate

2731
02:43:50,313 --> 02:43:51,927
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa counterparts, para

2732
02:43:51,927 --> 02:43:53,836
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mabawasan ang nakukulong

2733
02:43:53,836 --> 02:43:55,646
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng mga OFWs po.

2734
02:43:55,980 --> 02:43:58,302
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Additional 500 million po ang hinahanap ninyo?

2735
02:43:58,499 --> 02:43:59,719
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Hindi naman ho, pero

2736
02:43:59,719 --> 02:44:02,238
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kung ano lang pong kaya sana ng gobyerno,

2737
02:44:02,238 --> 02:44:03,576
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kung napupondohan yung iba,

2738
02:44:03,910 --> 02:44:05,918
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: tapos napupunta lamang sa scandal,

2739
02:44:05,937 --> 02:44:08,338
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sana yun talagang nagwo-work po

2740
02:44:08,338 --> 02:44:10,089
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ang mabigyan ng pondo.

2741
02:44:10,502 --> 02:44:11,801
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Subok po ang NBI.

2742
02:44:11,939 --> 02:44:14,084
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Tsaka mga kasama ko sa department, mga piskal,

2743
02:44:14,576 --> 02:44:16,110
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: mahal ko po sila dahil mga dati

2744
02:44:16,110 --> 02:44:17,842
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PAO ko po karamihan. 80% ng mga

2745
02:44:17,842 --> 02:44:19,456
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: prosecutors galing po sa akin.

2746
02:44:19,849 --> 02:44:21,994
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Sa PAO, naging mentor po nila ako.

2747
02:44:22,683 --> 02:44:23,981
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Kaya nalulungkot po ako

2748
02:44:23,981 --> 02:44:25,870
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pag nakikita ko may bawas po ang budget

2749
02:44:25,870 --> 02:44:27,484
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: ng mga ahensya ng DOJ.

2750
02:44:27,720 --> 02:44:30,023
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sige po. Hayaan ninyo, susuportahan namin

2751
02:44:30,023 --> 02:44:31,175
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung pagdagdag ng

2752
02:44:31,175 --> 02:44:33,760
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: budget ng PAO.

2753
02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:34,569
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Opo.

2754
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:40,409
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa LRA, andyan po ba

2755
02:44:40,409 --> 02:44:41,776
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang LRA?

2756
02:44:42,597 --> 02:44:44,911
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sir, napansin ko yung support for operations nyo,

2757
02:44:44,995 --> 02:44:47,414
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumobo ng 86.15%.

2758
02:44:47,414 --> 02:44:48,676
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano po dahilan para dyan?

2759
02:44:58,720 --> 02:45:06,838
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sir, iyong pong support for services na nasa ICTD po namin, sa improvement po ng aming services on technology ho.

2760
02:45:07,120 --> 02:45:12,699
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: With the improvement in services, gaganda ho ba at bibilis iyong pag-i-issue ng mga titulo na kinakailangan?

2761
02:45:13,439 --> 02:45:19,308
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Inaasahan ho namin sa pagkakaroon ng makabagong teknolohiya, maaari ho natin mapabilis na ho talaga.

2762
02:45:19,437 --> 02:45:23,160
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: At maiwasan na rin ho ang pagkakaroon ng mga pekeng titulo rin ho.

2763
02:45:23,160 --> 02:45:33,079
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi isang hinaing doon po ng marami, lalo na ng mga magsasaka na naghihintay ng CLOA, na mabagal po iyong pag-i-issue ng mga titulo.

2764
02:45:33,571 --> 02:45:41,399
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kasi may mga anomalya ring nangyayari. Ano hong ginagawa ng ahensya para imbestigahan ang mga ito at mapabilis ang paglabas ng titulo?

2765
02:45:41,399 --> 02:45:51,146
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa usapin po ng mga CLOA, kami po ay mahigpit na nakikipag-ugnayan ho sa Department of Agrarian Reform.

2766
02:45:51,751 --> 02:45:53,483
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Sa opisina ni Secretary Conrado Estrella po.

2767
02:45:53,684 --> 02:46:02,948
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So unti-unti ho namin na natatapos at naaayos ang mga issue sa usapin sa mga CLOWA po.

2768
02:46:03,472 --> 02:46:12,212
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: At kami po ngayon ay nagsasagawa ho ng programa para mapabilis na ho ang distribution ng ating CLOA.

2769
02:46:12,373 --> 02:46:21,113
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Meron pong ina-undertake na programa si Secretary Conrado na amin pong tinutulungan, ang DAR SPLIT Program po.

2770
02:46:21,113 --> 02:46:32,190
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So sa programang iyon ay iyong mga collective CLOA, nababasag ho natin into individual CLOAs and napagdi-distribute po sa ating mga agrarian reform beneficiaries.

2771
02:46:33,640 --> 02:46:41,198
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Siguro naman ho, susukatin ninyo iyong bilis kung iyan po ang target ninyo—susukatin ninyo kung naging matagumpay ang inyong inisyatibo. Tama po?

2772
02:46:41,960 --> 02:46:48,217
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo, hindi lang pong bilis pati po yung bilang po ng ating mga titulo na naipamimigay po.

2773
02:46:48,217 --> 02:46:58,429
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Ang target ho natin ay isang milyong titulo ang maibibigay natin sa ating mga kababayan, at sa aking tantiya nasa 200,000 na ho ang naibibigay po.

2774
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:04,724
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Next question po. Kaya para sa last set of questions, patapos na ho.

2775
02:47:05,006 --> 02:47:06,156
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ay tapos na, last question.

2776
02:47:07,399 --> 02:47:17,597
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, to the OSG, to Solicitor General Berberabe, I note that lumaki po iyong inyong budget for General Administration Support Services.

2777
02:47:17,597 --> 02:47:18,570
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I know previously...

2778
02:47:19,523 --> 02:47:32,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Nagkaroon kayo ng problema sa caseload, tama? Pero naremedyuhan ninyo. To what extent po iyong dagdag na budget ninyo ay bilang pagtugon sa mga problemang babanggitin ninyo sa amin ngayon?

2779
02:47:32,640 --> 02:47:48,520
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Okay. Salamat po sa attention po sa OSG. With regard po sa increase ng budget, substantial portion po nito ay mapupunta sa building po ng OSG.

2780
02:47:48,520 --> 02:48:05,160
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So sa ngayon po, yung OSG main building, 49 years old na po ito. Ilang dekada na po na pinag-uusapan. In fact, kakalahati na lang po ang occupants ng OSG sapagkat medyo kahit po dumadaan lang ay mga sasakyan para pong may lindol sa loob ng OSG.

2781
02:48:05,160 --> 02:48:13,302
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So iilan na lang po kaming opisina na natitira sa OSG main.

2782
02:48:15,200 --> 02:48:32,840
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Ang unang taon ng installment. Ang sinuggest po sa amin ng DBM Secretary at saka ng DOF Secretary, imbes po na bumili o magpagawa from scratch, ay humanap po ng building na ready-made at lease-to-own po.

2783
02:48:32,840 --> 02:48:44,120
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So dadaan po kami sa GSIS, Government Financial Institution, sila po ang bibili at kami naman po ay magbabayad ng sampung taon.

2784
02:48:44,120 --> 02:49:05,800
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So iyon po sana ang aming pakiusap na kung ma-approve po sa GAA, iyong kasama na rin sa proposal ng NEP, ay matutuloy po, mabibigyan kami ng MYCA at makakalipat po, sapagkat 2022 pa po ang report na ang structural integrity po ng building ay talagang tagilid na po ang estado.

2785
02:49:05,800 --> 02:49:12,777
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Pero yun naman po ay ibebenta ang building na iyon at mapupunta po ang pagbebentahan sa Bureau of Treasury.

2786
02:49:14,840 --> 02:49:18,070
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Tony.

2787
02:49:18,080 --> 02:49:24,510
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority, Representative Sarah Elago.

2788
02:49:24,520 --> 02:49:26,903
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

2789
02:49:26,903 --> 02:49:38,908
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: We in Gabriela Women's Party likewise express grave concern over the proposed massive budget cuts in the budget of the Special Enforcement and Protection Subprogram,

2790
02:49:38,908 --> 02:49:45,415
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: particularly in anti-trafficking in persons enforcement, anti-cybercrime enforcement, as well as the NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM.

2791
02:49:45,415 --> 02:49:52,379
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Now, Mr. Chair, may we know the 2027 proposed funding for these particular programs?

2792
02:49:52,379 --> 02:50:08,967
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Natalakay po kanina kung magkano yung gusto nating ma-restore na cuts, pero gusto ko lang din ho malaman kung magkano ba yung kinakailangan para maabot yung mga kinakailangan nilang magawa para sa susunod na taon.

2793
02:50:08,967 --> 02:50:13,641
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Lalong-lalo na hindi naman po bumababa ang mga kaso.

2794
02:50:13,641 --> 02:50:16,023
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa katunayan, Mr. Chair,

2795
02:50:16,023 --> 02:50:33,069
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Marami ring mga kaso na hindi na talaga nagtutuloy doon sa mismong pagfa-file ng complaint dahil sa laganap pa rin na victim blaming, shaming, o yung takot na wala rin namang mananagot kapag sila ay nagsumbong.

2796
02:50:33,069 --> 02:50:40,950
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we hear, Mr. Chair, from the DOJ or those in charge in the particular programs?

2797
02:50:40,960 --> 02:50:45,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: If I may ask, Asec. Michelle, can you elucidate?

2798
02:50:45,880 --> 02:50:48,365
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Secretary.

2799
02:50:48,365 --> 02:50:51,495
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

2800
02:50:51,495 --> 02:51:06,236
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Ma'am, for 2026, if I may just clarify, the budget of the NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM Secretariat for 2026 is a total of 111.5 million.

2801
02:51:06,236 --> 02:51:11,946
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: In the 2027 NEP, it's only 35.6 million.

2802
02:51:11,946 --> 02:51:17,657
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So it is our proposal or request that

2803
02:51:17,657 --> 02:51:25,947
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: we increase this by 75.9 million to restore to the 2026 levels.

2804
02:51:25,947 --> 02:51:38,753
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For the Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking Secretariat, in 2026, the total budget of the IACAT Secretariat is 119 million.

2805
02:51:38,753 --> 02:51:45,108
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For the 2027 NEP, it's down to 70 million.

2806
02:51:45,108 --> 02:51:47,594
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we're requesting...

2807
02:51:47,594 --> 02:51:55,884
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: for more or less 50 million, or 49 million to be exact.

2808
02:51:55,884 --> 02:52:06,755
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And for the Office of Cybercrime, in 2026, it had a total budget of 102.2 million.

2809
02:52:06,755 --> 02:52:13,110
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For the 2027 NEP, it's reduced to 12.273 million.

2810
02:52:13,120 --> 02:52:14,060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 12.273

2811
02:52:14,060 --> 02:52:18,118
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: million. So yung 90% po yung na-reduce from 2026.

2812
02:52:18,118 --> 02:52:20,617
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, mas mababa pa

2813
02:52:20,617 --> 02:52:25,844
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pala, no? Mas malalim pa pala yung mga binawas pagdating sa mga

2814
02:52:25,844 --> 02:52:34,190
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: programa na ito. Ibig sabihin, yung original proposed budget ninyo ay pareho lang ng 2026 GAA o mas mataas pa?

2815
02:52:34,200 --> 02:52:41,619
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: As to your ask, Mr. Chair, for the original proposed budget for

2816
02:52:41,619 --> 02:52:50,754
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: 2027: for the original proposed budget po, we were constrained to limit our proposals, Madam

2817
02:52:50,754 --> 02:53:01,608
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Chair. However, we want to take this opportunity to impress that the real operational need of these units

2818
02:53:01,608 --> 02:53:07,309
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: are at the level of the same 2026 budget.

2819
02:53:07,319 --> 02:53:10,290
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, we know why

2820
02:53:10,290 --> 02:53:11,324
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the

2821
02:53:11,324 --> 02:53:12,358
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bodies

2822
02:53:12,358 --> 02:53:20,655
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in charge are limited to impose a particular ceiling based on the 2026 GAA on their

2823
02:53:20,655 --> 02:53:29,436
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposals. Hindi ba dapat na, kumbaga, kung ano yung mga kailangan at yung mga dapat para magawa

2824
02:53:29,436 --> 02:53:31,922
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung trabaho ninyo, iyon

2825
02:53:31,922 --> 02:53:36,830
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ipo-propose natin? Anyhow, meron pa namang pagdadaanan na

2826
02:53:36,830 --> 02:53:43,190
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: DBM, no? Para, kumbaga, kung ano lang yung batay sa utilization, kung

2827
02:53:43,190 --> 02:53:49,550
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ano lang yung batay sa absorptive capacity, iyon lang yung maaaring maibigay.

2828
02:53:49,560 --> 02:53:57,130
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, ma'am, for that question and for echoing our concern as well. Given din po

2829
02:53:57,130 --> 02:54:03,822
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: yung limitation on the absorptive capacity, as was raised a while ago, na-mention na

2830
02:54:03,822 --> 02:54:12,269
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: po namin na kailangan ding dagdagan yung ability to conduct timely and reliable procurement processes, as well as

2831
02:54:12,269 --> 02:54:15,451
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: yung need po for additional plantilla

2832
02:54:15,451 --> 02:54:17,318
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: positions. Because the

2833
02:54:17,318 --> 02:54:23,571
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: NCC-OSAEC-CSAEM, IACAT, and OOC budgets are part of a bigger budget po under

2834
02:54:23,571 --> 02:54:27,192
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the Office of the Secretary. So kaya

2835
02:54:27,192 --> 02:54:32,129
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: po constrained din po kami in relation doon sa kabuuang

2836
02:54:32,129 --> 02:54:36,628
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: budget na hinihingi po under the Office of the

2837
02:54:36,628 --> 02:54:38,494
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Secretary. But we

2838
02:54:38,494 --> 02:54:42,993
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: appreciate and take this opportunity to underscore the real

2839
02:54:42,993 --> 02:54:44,420
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: operational need

2840
02:54:44,420 --> 02:54:46,286
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: ng mga divisions

2841
02:54:46,286 --> 02:54:49,030
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and units po na ito.

2842
02:54:49,040 --> 02:54:50,849
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes, Mr. Chair.

2843
02:54:50,849 --> 02:54:54,336
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Hingin na lang ho natin yung original

2844
02:54:54,336 --> 02:54:56,565
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposal ng mga nabanggit

2845
02:54:56,565 --> 02:55:00,053
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na subprograms, mga particular bodies na nangangailangan

2846
02:55:00,053 --> 02:55:04,799
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at may trabaho pagdating sa special enforcement and protection. Ngayon,

2847
02:55:04,799 --> 02:55:07,028
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, nais ko

2848
02:55:07,028 --> 02:55:13,033
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hong magtanong tungkol sa pag-decongest ng NBP. Nabigyan tayo kanina ng update that

2849
02:55:13,033 --> 02:55:16,101
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: BuCor is still on track for

2850
02:55:16,101 --> 02:55:21,267
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: its 2028 target for the decongestion of the New Bilibid Prison.

2851
02:55:21,267 --> 02:55:25,594
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May we know, Mr. Chair, if there are any

2852
02:55:25,594 --> 02:55:28,242
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: complaints or concerns with regard

2853
02:55:28,242 --> 02:55:33,828
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to the transfer raised before the Bureau? For instance, Mr. Chair, we've

2854
02:55:33,828 --> 02:55:36,056
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: received reports na, kumbaga,

2855
02:55:36,056 --> 02:55:39,964
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang request po sana ay mas malapit doon

2856
02:55:39,964 --> 02:55:41,772
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga lugar

2857
02:55:41,772 --> 02:55:45,260
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung saan ang kanilang mga minamahal at

2858
02:55:45,260 --> 02:55:49,587
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang mga pamilya, doon ho dapat mailipat yung mga

2859
02:55:49,587 --> 02:55:52,655
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL. May natanggap ho ba na

2860
02:55:52,655 --> 02:55:56,142
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga ganitong tipo ng concern, at ano

2861
02:55:56,142 --> 02:56:00,469
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ginawa ng BuCor sa pagtugon sa mga ito?

2862
02:56:00,479 --> 02:56:04,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: With the permission of Secretary...

2863
02:56:04,200 --> 02:56:04,800
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, you may.

2864
02:56:04,810 --> 02:56:07,030
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

2865
02:56:07,040 --> 02:56:10,100
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang ginagawa po ngayon sa BuCor,

2866
02:56:10,100 --> 02:56:15,670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: for as long as we can hold on doon sa may nagre-request

2867
02:56:15,670 --> 02:56:19,149
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na huwag muna silang ilipat, they are

2868
02:56:19,149 --> 02:56:22,209
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: given, they are allowed. Opo. And

2869
02:56:22,209 --> 02:56:23,177
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: then,

2870
02:56:23,177 --> 02:56:27,493
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of course, ang time frame po natin is 2028,

2871
02:56:27,493 --> 02:56:30,971
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: where masasara na po natin itong New

2872
02:56:30,971 --> 02:56:34,450
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bilibid. That's why nabigyan po tayo ng

2873
02:56:34,450 --> 02:56:36,673
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ating gobyerno ng about

2874
02:56:36,673 --> 02:56:38,897
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 5 billion to spread

2875
02:56:38,897 --> 02:56:41,538
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: the regionalization. Meron na po

2876
02:56:41,538 --> 02:56:42,925
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tayo sa

2877
02:56:42,925 --> 02:56:43,893
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Davao,

2878
02:56:43,893 --> 02:56:45,698
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Zamboanga, Leyte,

2879
02:56:45,698 --> 02:56:47,504
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Mindoro, and

2880
02:56:47,504 --> 02:56:49,727
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: then Palawan. And then,

2881
02:56:49,727 --> 02:56:55,716
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of course, ang plano po kasi namin sa mga PDL ay bigyan talaga

2882
02:56:55,716 --> 02:56:57,521
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila ng bagong

2883
02:56:57,521 --> 02:56:59,326
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: buhay, bagong pag-asa.

2884
02:56:59,326 --> 02:57:00,712
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And itong

2885
02:57:00,712 --> 02:57:05,028
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Palawan po, 32,000 hectares. Ang balak po natin diyan

2886
02:57:05,028 --> 02:57:07,669
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: gawing PEZA zone para lahat

2887
02:57:07,669 --> 02:57:09,893
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga PDL na

2888
02:57:09,893 --> 02:57:11,698
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mailipat, mga 70%

2889
02:57:11,698 --> 02:57:13,921
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na mailipat doon, doon

2890
02:57:13,921 --> 02:57:15,726
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na po magtatrabaho.

2891
02:57:15,726 --> 02:57:20,878
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: They will be serving as employees ng mga PEZA zone, pero

2892
02:57:20,878 --> 02:57:23,520
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL pa rin po sila.

2893
02:57:23,520 --> 02:57:26,162
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then paglaya nila, they

2894
02:57:26,162 --> 02:57:30,059
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: will be hired as regular employees. And then

2895
02:57:30,059 --> 02:57:35,211
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron din pong naibigay na lupa na 1,700 hectares para talagang

2896
02:57:35,211 --> 02:57:36,597
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bigyan na

2897
02:57:36,597 --> 02:57:40,076
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: rin yung mga PDL; paglaya nila, bibigyan

2898
02:57:40,076 --> 02:57:41,881
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na rin po

2899
02:57:41,881 --> 02:57:45,778
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila ng sariling lupa na puwede na po

2900
02:57:45,778 --> 02:57:48,838
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila doon tumira. But kung gusto

2901
02:57:48,838 --> 02:57:53,572
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: talaga nilang nasa Luzon lang sila, lately po binigyan tayo

2902
02:57:53,572 --> 02:57:57,050
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ni Governor Umali ng Nueva Ecija ng

2903
02:57:57,050 --> 02:58:00,529
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 60 hectares para doon po ilipat yung

2904
02:58:00,529 --> 02:58:04,007
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga kababayan niya. And of course, kaya

2905
02:58:04,007 --> 02:58:05,812
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: rin naman siguro

2906
02:58:05,812 --> 02:58:09,709
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mag-absorb, for those who are north of Metro

2907
02:58:09,709 --> 02:58:11,932
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Manila, doon na po

2908
02:58:11,932 --> 02:58:13,738
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mailagay sa Nueva

2909
02:58:13,738 --> 02:58:16,798
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ecija. Pero south of Metro Manila,

2910
02:58:16,798 --> 02:58:19,439
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: may tinitingnan din po tayo

2911
02:58:19,439 --> 02:58:22,918
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dito sa lupa ng UP Land Grant

2912
02:58:22,918 --> 02:58:26,396
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na nire-request namin na mag-swapping kami ng

2913
02:58:26,396 --> 02:58:27,783
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 500 hectares,

2914
02:58:27,783 --> 02:58:30,007
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi may lupa sila

2915
02:58:30,007 --> 02:58:31,812
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na 8,000 hectares

2916
02:58:31,812 --> 02:58:33,198
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na nasa

2917
02:58:33,198 --> 02:58:36,259
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Siniloan at meron naman kaming lupa

2918
02:58:36,259 --> 02:58:37,645
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Palawan

2919
02:58:37,645 --> 02:58:39,869
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na napakalaki. So mag-swap,

2920
02:58:39,869 --> 02:58:42,929
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: makapagtayo din ang University of the

2921
02:58:42,929 --> 02:58:45,571
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Philippines sa Palawan. And then,

2922
02:58:45,571 --> 02:58:48,631
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of course, yung mga south of

2923
02:58:48,631 --> 02:58:50,017
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Metro Manila,

2924
02:58:50,017 --> 02:58:52,659
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: doon naman mailagay ang mga

2925
02:58:52,659 --> 02:58:55,301
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL. Lately po, sa assessment

2926
02:58:55,301 --> 02:58:58,361
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: namin, karamihan po ng taga-Visayas na

2927
02:58:58,361 --> 02:59:01,003
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga nakakulong sa BuCor ay

2928
02:59:01,003 --> 02:59:04,063
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: taga-Cebu. Kaya nag-a-appeal din po kami

2929
02:59:04,063 --> 02:59:07,123
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Cebu para sa ganoon, yung

2930
02:59:07,123 --> 02:59:10,183
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: karamihan ng taga-Cebu doon na rin

2931
02:59:10,183 --> 02:59:13,662
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po makatira. Pero dito po sa Mindanao,

2932
02:59:13,662 --> 02:59:17,977
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron na po tayo sa Davao at mayroon na

2933
02:59:17,977 --> 02:59:21,456
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: rin po tayo sa Zamboanga. Pero tumitingin

2934
02:59:21,456 --> 02:59:23,679
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po kami sa Central

2935
02:59:23,679 --> 02:59:26,739
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mindanao at saka sa Sasa Farm

2936
02:59:26,739 --> 02:59:30,218
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para sa ganoon, yung ating mga PDL

2937
02:59:30,218 --> 02:59:33,696
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na gustong makabalik din sa Mindanao ay

2938
02:59:33,696 --> 02:59:36,338
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: doon na rin po makulong.

2939
02:59:38,296 --> 02:59:40,343
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Na-raise natin, Mr. Chair,

2940
02:59:40,343 --> 02:59:42,765
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang usapin na ito dahil

2941
02:59:42,765 --> 02:59:45,560
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may commitment din ang Pilipinas pagdating

2942
02:59:45,560 --> 02:59:47,233
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa adherence niya

2943
02:59:47,233 --> 02:59:48,532
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Mandela

2944
02:59:48,532 --> 02:59:50,205
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Rules, sa ating

2945
02:59:50,205 --> 02:59:51,878
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Standard Minimum Rules

2946
02:59:51,878 --> 02:59:54,299
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: for the Treatment of Prisoners.

2947
02:59:54,299 --> 02:59:55,972
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Rule 59: prisoners

2948
02:59:55,972 --> 02:59:58,019
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: shall be allocated, to

2949
02:59:58,019 --> 03:00:01,564
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the extent possible, to prisons close to their

2950
03:00:01,564 --> 03:00:05,482
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: homes or their places of social rehabilitation. So kung

2951
03:00:05,482 --> 03:00:10,149
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: may mga ganito pa na mga concerns, Mr. Chair, tayo ho

2952
03:00:10,149 --> 03:00:14,068
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay makikipag-ugnayan sa BuCor para matugunan ang mga ito.

2953
03:00:14,068 --> 03:00:17,238
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Isa pa hong concern sa BuCor pa

2954
03:00:17,238 --> 03:00:20,408
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: rin ho, Mr. Chair, ang naipaulat ho

2955
03:00:20,408 --> 03:00:26,573
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nawawala na nasa 6 to 7 million sa trust funds ng mga PDL sa

2956
03:00:26,573 --> 03:00:29,743
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Correctional Institution for Women. So imbes daw

2957
03:00:29,743 --> 03:00:35,533
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po na 13 million ang naka-cash ay 6 million na lang ang natitira. May

2958
03:00:35,533 --> 03:00:40,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: update na po ba tungkol sa investigation na may kinalaman dito?

2959
03:00:40,244 --> 03:00:43,729
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, under investigation po.

2960
03:00:43,729 --> 03:00:51,322
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang pinagawa ko muna, ni-relieve ko iyong deputy at saka iyong head

2961
03:00:51,322 --> 03:00:58,328
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng office. Pati ni-relieve ko rin yung humahawak ng pera. And

2962
03:00:58,328 --> 03:01:05,334
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: then, of course, iyon ang ina-account po namin. We just concluded

2963
03:01:05,334 --> 03:01:10,579
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: the investigation last Saturday. We are awaiting the

2964
03:01:10,579 --> 03:01:15,238
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: report. Ang unaccounted po na pera is

2965
03:01:15,238 --> 03:01:19,309
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 6,454,405. And ito po kasi hindi

2966
03:01:19,309 --> 03:01:26,316
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naman po pera ng gobyerno; pera po ito ng mga PDL.

2967
03:01:26,316 --> 03:01:31,561
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya po masusing pag-iimbestiga ang aming ginagawa dito.

2968
03:01:33,113 --> 03:01:38,019
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, maganda nga na natapos na ho yung investigation at

2969
03:01:38,019 --> 03:01:42,134
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: manghihingi ho tayo ng pinakahuling ulat dito ng BuCor.

2970
03:01:42,134 --> 03:01:46,644
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At nabanggit na rin po ni DG na-relieve nga po

2971
03:01:46,644 --> 03:01:48,778
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung ating superintendent at

2972
03:01:48,778 --> 03:01:52,497
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang Deputy for Administration habang hindi pa po

2973
03:01:52,497 --> 03:01:55,423
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: final itong investigation. Ngunit nabalitaan din

2974
03:01:55,423 --> 03:01:58,745
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ho natin na na-reassign naman po sila

2975
03:01:58,745 --> 03:02:04,048
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa Office of the Deputy DG for Administration, to the BuCor National

2976
03:02:04,048 --> 03:02:08,954
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Headquarters. Ang kinababahala ho natin dito ay hindi ba mako-compromise o

2977
03:02:08,954 --> 03:02:14,257
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maaaring makompromiso yung ating ginagawang investigation dahil po nagkaroon lamang ng reassignment,

2978
03:02:14,257 --> 03:02:16,391
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at sa national office

2979
03:02:16,391 --> 03:02:19,317
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pa. Anong masasabi dito ng BuCor?

2980
03:02:21,697 --> 03:02:27,647
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang pagka-attach na assignment nila is for them to be present for the

2981
03:02:27,647 --> 03:02:35,260
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: investigation. And I think iyan po ang isa pang tinitingnan ko dito sa BuCor. Hindi lang ito

2982
03:02:35,260 --> 03:02:38,302
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga PDL na mga pasaway, kundi

2983
03:02:38,302 --> 03:02:40,929
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pati mga tauhan ko rin.

2984
03:02:40,929 --> 03:02:44,803
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi po talagang marami [unclear], pero hindi naman

2985
03:02:44,803 --> 03:02:47,430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po malaking porsyento, na after

2986
03:02:47,430 --> 03:02:48,395
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: four

2987
03:02:48,395 --> 03:02:49,361
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: years

2988
03:02:49,361 --> 03:02:52,403
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of stay dito sa BuCor, may

2989
03:02:52,403 --> 03:02:54,615
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga tao talagang recalcitrant,

2990
03:02:54,615 --> 03:02:55,996
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: recidivist, incorrigible,

2991
03:02:55,996 --> 03:02:57,376
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at saka

2992
03:02:57,376 --> 03:02:58,757
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: scalawag. So

2993
03:02:58,757 --> 03:03:00,138
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dinismiss ko

2994
03:03:00,138 --> 03:03:02,765
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na po talaga sa serbisyo,

2995
03:03:02,765 --> 03:03:03,731
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 43;

2996
03:03:03,731 --> 03:03:05,527
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sinuspend ko, 137;

2997
03:03:05,527 --> 03:03:07,323
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and nireprimand ko,

2998
03:03:07,323 --> 03:03:09,119
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 41. So I

2999
03:03:09,119 --> 03:03:11,746
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: will be very strict on

3000
03:03:11,746 --> 03:03:14,374
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: this. Kahit po mga matataas

3001
03:03:14,374 --> 03:03:15,754
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: silang opisyal,

3002
03:03:15,754 --> 03:03:16,720
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pananagutin

3003
03:03:16,720 --> 03:03:19,762
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ko sila, at kung kailangang ikulong,

3004
03:03:19,762 --> 03:03:21,974
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ipakukulong ko rin sila.

3005
03:03:22,463 --> 03:03:25,548
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Just a few questions, Mr. Chair, related to this

3006
03:03:25,548 --> 03:03:27,224
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: issue. Last question: may

3007
03:03:27,224 --> 03:03:29,182
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: proposal din daw ho na

3008
03:03:29,182 --> 03:03:30,859
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magkaroon ng collection from

3009
03:03:30,859 --> 03:03:32,817
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: 3 pesos kada 5 minutes

3010
03:03:32,817 --> 03:03:34,775
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa mga tawag to 5

3011
03:03:34,775 --> 03:03:36,170
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pesos kada 5

3012
03:03:36,170 --> 03:03:37,846
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: minuto sa mga tawag.

3013
03:03:37,846 --> 03:03:40,086
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mangyayari pa rin ho ba ito?

3014
03:03:40,086 --> 03:03:42,889
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At sa tingin ko ho, dapat hindi natin

3015
03:03:42,889 --> 03:03:44,566
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito payagan, na yung

3016
03:03:44,566 --> 03:03:46,242
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga PDL na ang

3017
03:03:46,242 --> 03:03:48,200
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: naagrabyado, na ngayon ay nawawala

3018
03:03:48,200 --> 03:03:50,159
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ho yung hindi ma-account na

3019
03:03:50,159 --> 03:03:52,398
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pera, eh sila pa ho ang

3020
03:03:52,398 --> 03:03:54,075
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: magshu-shoulder nung mas malaking

3021
03:03:54,075 --> 03:03:55,751
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga bayarin pagdating sa

3022
03:03:55,751 --> 03:03:57,428
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga pag-contact at pagtawag

3023
03:03:57,428 --> 03:03:59,386
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kanila hong mga pamilya.

3024
03:04:00,213 --> 03:04:01,488
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

3025
03:04:01,488 --> 03:04:03,850
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pinaimbestigahan ko po iyan kasi

3026
03:04:03,850 --> 03:04:05,849
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bawal po iyan, kahit

3027
03:04:05,849 --> 03:04:07,849
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magkano o tataasan pa

3028
03:04:07,849 --> 03:04:09,848
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at ipapasa, kasi dapat

3029
03:04:09,848 --> 03:04:12,210
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron naman po tayong e-dalaw,

3030
03:04:12,210 --> 03:04:13,123
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: o

3031
03:04:13,123 --> 03:04:14,760
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: meron silang sariling

3032
03:04:14,760 --> 03:04:16,759
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: oras para tumawag sa

3033
03:04:16,759 --> 03:04:18,396
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga kamag-anak nila.

3034
03:04:18,396 --> 03:04:20,396
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Hindi po tino-tolerate iyan.

3035
03:04:20,396 --> 03:04:22,758
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bawal po iyan, kaya pinapaimbestigahan

3036
03:04:22,758 --> 03:04:24,395
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ko rin iyan.

3037
03:04:25,171 --> 03:04:27,413
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, yung konkretong plano

3038
03:04:27,413 --> 03:04:29,656
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng BuCor para maibalik yung

3039
03:04:29,656 --> 03:04:32,237
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nawawalang pera. Hindi po biro iyan,

3040
03:04:32,237 --> 03:04:34,479
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung 6 million plus na

3041
03:04:34,479 --> 03:04:36,722
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nawawalang pera. Paano ho iyan

3042
03:04:36,722 --> 03:04:38,626
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: maibabalik doon sa mga

3043
03:04:38,626 --> 03:04:41,206
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL na lubos na umaasa doon

3044
03:04:41,206 --> 03:04:44,126
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa pinapadala sa kanilang pera para sa

3045
03:04:44,126 --> 03:04:46,368
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga pang-araw-araw nila na mga

3046
03:04:46,368 --> 03:04:48,611
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gastusin, mga pangangailangang medikal, at

3047
03:04:48,611 --> 03:04:50,853
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: marami pa hong ibang mga

3048
03:04:50,853 --> 03:04:52,419
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinagkakagastusan para sa

3049
03:04:52,419 --> 03:04:53,646
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kanilang kalusugan?

3050
03:04:53,646 --> 03:04:55,211
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: At ano yung

3051
03:04:55,211 --> 03:04:57,115
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: seryosong effort para ho

3052
03:04:57,115 --> 03:04:58,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mabuwag na yung

3053
03:04:58,680 --> 03:05:00,246
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ganitong cashless system

3054
03:05:00,246 --> 03:05:02,827
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nagiging pugad pa ng korupsyon

3055
03:05:02,827 --> 03:05:05,408
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: o nagiging pugad pa ng [unclear]

3056
03:05:05,408 --> 03:05:07,650
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at mga potensyal na abuso

3057
03:05:07,650 --> 03:05:08,877
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa kapangyarihan?

3058
03:05:09,569 --> 03:05:10,971
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

3059
03:05:10,971 --> 03:05:14,077
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: seryoso po tayo diyan. Kung mapapatunayan

3060
03:05:14,077 --> 03:05:16,756
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na tinangay nila yung mga

3061
03:05:16,756 --> 03:05:18,158
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pera ng

3062
03:05:18,158 --> 03:05:20,412
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL, kakasuhan sila at

3063
03:05:20,412 --> 03:05:22,666
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: siguro i-garnish kung anumang

3064
03:05:22,666 --> 03:05:25,772
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ari-arian meron sila. And then, of

3065
03:05:25,772 --> 03:05:27,600
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: course, ito pong

3066
03:05:27,600 --> 03:05:29,001
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: cashless system,

3067
03:05:29,001 --> 03:05:30,403
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: talagang medyo

3068
03:05:30,403 --> 03:05:32,657
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: masalimuot. Nung isang araw

3069
03:05:32,657 --> 03:05:34,059
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: lang, nagpa-raid

3070
03:05:34,059 --> 03:05:35,461
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ako sa

3071
03:05:35,461 --> 03:05:36,437
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: NBP

3072
03:05:36,437 --> 03:05:39,117
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at nakakuha naman ako ng

3073
03:05:39,117 --> 03:05:40,945
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2 million na

3074
03:05:40,945 --> 03:05:42,347
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: cash na

3075
03:05:42,347 --> 03:05:43,323
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakakalat

3076
03:05:43,323 --> 03:05:46,002
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: o hawak ng mga PDL.

3077
03:05:46,002 --> 03:05:49,108
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang PDL po, authorized humawak lang

3078
03:05:49,108 --> 03:05:51,788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng 2,000 kada isang linggo,

3079
03:05:51,788 --> 03:05:52,764
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: or

3080
03:05:52,764 --> 03:05:54,166
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 8,000 per

3081
03:05:54,166 --> 03:05:56,845
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: month. Pero yung nakuha po

3082
03:05:56,845 --> 03:05:58,673
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: natin na 2

3083
03:05:58,673 --> 03:06:01,779
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: million, kinumpiska ko po iyon. Kaya

3084
03:06:01,779 --> 03:06:04,459
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi pag naman in-allow natin

3085
03:06:04,459 --> 03:06:06,713
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila na may pera,

3086
03:06:06,713 --> 03:06:08,115
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magsusugal po

3087
03:06:08,115 --> 03:06:09,942
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iyan, maglilibang, ay

3088
03:06:09,942 --> 03:06:11,770
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magkakagulo na naman.

3089
03:06:11,770 --> 03:06:14,450
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Dahil tandaan natin, yung last

3090
03:06:14,450 --> 03:06:16,278
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2023, nagkagulo kasi

3091
03:06:16,278 --> 03:06:17,680
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagsusugal sila.

3092
03:06:17,680 --> 03:06:19,508
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So talaga pong

3093
03:06:19,508 --> 03:06:21,762
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kailangang pag-aralan kung papaano

3094
03:06:21,762 --> 03:06:24,441
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang sistema na may pera

3095
03:06:24,441 --> 03:06:26,695
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila na tag-2,000 lang.

3096
03:06:26,695 --> 03:06:28,949
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At yung wala, kahit

3097
03:06:28,949 --> 03:06:29,925
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sino

3098
03:06:29,925 --> 03:06:32,179
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: man naman nagpapadala, kasi

3099
03:06:32,179 --> 03:06:34,859
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: yung iba naman nasa abroad,

3100
03:06:34,859 --> 03:06:37,964
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi naman puwedeng every week magpapadala

3101
03:06:37,964 --> 03:06:39,366
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng 2,000;

3102
03:06:39,366 --> 03:06:41,620
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nag-iiwan ng malaki. Pero

3103
03:06:41,620 --> 03:06:44,300
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dapat talagang may system. Ang

3104
03:06:44,300 --> 03:06:46,128
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pinakasistema diyan, pagka

3105
03:06:46,128 --> 03:06:47,956
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagbigay ng pera,

3106
03:06:47,956 --> 03:06:49,783
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ide-deposit sa cashier

3107
03:06:49,783 --> 03:06:52,037
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at hindi puwedeng hawakan

3108
03:06:52,037 --> 03:06:54,717
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga individual na tao.

3109
03:06:55,105 --> 03:06:57,461
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, hindi pa rin ho

3110
03:06:57,461 --> 03:06:59,515
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: malinaw kung kailan ibabalik yung

3111
03:06:59,515 --> 03:07:02,172
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pera. Kailan po ibabalik itong pera na

3112
03:07:02,172 --> 03:07:04,527
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito na kailangang-kailangan ng ating mga

3113
03:07:04,527 --> 03:07:06,883
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: PDL? Marami po dito may mga

3114
03:07:06,883 --> 03:07:08,637
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sakit at nakasalalay po

3115
03:07:08,637 --> 03:07:10,691
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sila, kumbaga, doon sa mga

3116
03:07:10,691 --> 03:07:12,144
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pinapadala sa kanilang

3117
03:07:12,144 --> 03:07:15,101
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pera. May we know the stand of the

3118
03:07:15,101 --> 03:07:16,253
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Secretary on

3119
03:07:16,253 --> 03:07:19,211
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: this? Hayaan na lang ba natin na nawawala

3120
03:07:19,211 --> 03:07:21,566
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ito, o magkaroon tayo ng malinaw

3121
03:07:21,566 --> 03:07:22,718
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na commitment

3122
03:07:22,718 --> 03:07:24,472
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung kailan dapat maibalik

3123
03:07:24,472 --> 03:07:25,624
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang unaccounted

3124
03:07:25,624 --> 03:07:27,979
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na mga nawawalang milyon-milyon na ito

3125
03:07:27,979 --> 03:07:29,733
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa PDL Trust Fund?

3126
03:07:29,800 --> 03:07:32,175
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Unang-una po, aalamin natin kung sino-sino

3127
03:07:32,175 --> 03:07:34,246
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila talagang nawalan ng pera.

3128
03:07:34,246 --> 03:07:36,317
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya lang ang problema dito,

3129
03:07:36,317 --> 03:07:37,779
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: [unclear] natin dahil

3130
03:07:37,779 --> 03:07:40,458
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: about 3,000 po iyang mga PDL na

3131
03:07:40,458 --> 03:07:41,617
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nawalan ng

3132
03:07:41,617 --> 03:07:43,687
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pera. Hindi natin alam kung

3133
03:07:43,687 --> 03:07:46,062
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magkano ang individual na nawalan ng

3134
03:07:46,062 --> 03:07:47,221
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pera bawat

3135
03:07:47,221 --> 03:07:49,292
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: isa. So that's the first

3136
03:07:49,292 --> 03:07:51,971
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: step. We will give you an update

3137
03:07:51,971 --> 03:07:52,825
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po,

3138
03:07:52,825 --> 03:07:54,592
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Congresswoman, kung paano ginagawa

3139
03:07:54,592 --> 03:07:56,662
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ito, at ginagarantiya ko po

3140
03:07:56,662 --> 03:07:59,037
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na gagawin kong lahat ng paraan

3141
03:07:59,037 --> 03:08:01,412
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para mabawi po ng mga PDL

3142
03:08:01,412 --> 03:08:03,179
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iyang kanilang mga pera.

3143
03:08:03,398 --> 03:08:04,778
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Yes po, Mr. Chair.

3144
03:08:04,778 --> 03:08:06,572
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sana bago ho ang ating plenaryo

3145
03:08:06,572 --> 03:08:08,574
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay magkaroon na ng malinaw na timeline

3146
03:08:08,574 --> 03:08:09,747
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano maibabalik

3147
03:08:09,747 --> 03:08:10,504
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at

3148
03:08:10,504 --> 03:08:11,884
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mabuwag na po sana

3149
03:08:11,884 --> 03:08:13,056
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: itong ganitong sistema

3150
03:08:13,056 --> 03:08:14,436
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may nawawalang pera,

3151
03:08:14,436 --> 03:08:16,023
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagiging pugad ng korupsyon, at

3152
03:08:16,023 --> 03:08:17,611
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: matiyak na mapabuti natin yung

3153
03:08:17,611 --> 03:08:18,783
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga serbisyo. Dahil

3154
03:08:18,783 --> 03:08:19,955
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ako rin ho

3155
03:08:19,955 --> 03:08:20,920
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay kasama,

3156
03:08:20,920 --> 03:08:22,300
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: hindi lang sa pagre-restore

3157
03:08:22,300 --> 03:08:23,265
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng cuts

3158
03:08:23,265 --> 03:08:24,644
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nung mga nawalan ho

3159
03:08:24,644 --> 03:08:25,609
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng pondo,

3160
03:08:25,609 --> 03:08:26,782
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kundi pagtitiyak din

3161
03:08:26,782 --> 03:08:28,576
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na meron tayong sapat na pondo

3162
03:08:28,576 --> 03:08:29,956
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa hinahangad natin

3163
03:08:29,956 --> 03:08:30,921
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na rehabilitation,

3164
03:08:30,921 --> 03:08:32,301
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtitiyak ng restorative justice,

3165
03:08:32,301 --> 03:08:33,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at pagpapalakas ng sistema

3166
03:08:33,680 --> 03:08:35,060
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng hustisya sa bansa.

3167
03:08:35,060 --> 03:08:36,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

3168
03:08:36,575 --> 03:08:38,636
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Elago.

3169
03:08:38,636 --> 03:08:40,697
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: So ganoon lang po,

3170
03:08:40,697 --> 03:08:42,003
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: DG Catapang.

3171
03:08:42,003 --> 03:08:43,308
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: At least

3172
03:08:43,308 --> 03:08:45,370
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: provide the office of

3173
03:08:45,370 --> 03:08:47,053
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Sarah yung

3174
03:08:47,053 --> 03:08:49,114
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: status po ng investigation

3175
03:08:49,114 --> 03:08:50,420
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: regarding that

3176
03:08:50,420 --> 03:08:52,103
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: case. Next in

3177
03:08:52,103 --> 03:08:53,787
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: line from the

3178
03:08:53,787 --> 03:08:55,470
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: majority: Cong. Mika,

3179
03:08:55,470 --> 03:08:56,775
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Salvador,

3180
03:08:56,775 --> 03:08:58,081
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Dinand,

3181
03:08:58,081 --> 03:08:59,387
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Cong. Christina

3182
03:08:59,387 --> 03:09:01,070
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Talavera Lopez po.

3183
03:09:01,080 --> 03:09:03,742
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3184
03:09:04,279 --> 03:09:04,968
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Good afternoon,

3185
03:09:05,270 --> 03:09:06,328
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Secretary Vida.

3186
03:09:06,782 --> 03:09:08,025
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: My question is for the

3187
03:09:08,025 --> 03:09:09,385
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Office of the Solicitor General.

3188
03:09:10,359 --> 03:09:11,617
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ma'am, good afternoon po.

3189
03:09:11,617 --> 03:09:14,861
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: With regards to the budget

3190
03:09:14,861 --> 03:09:16,965
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the Law of the Sea program,

3191
03:09:17,181 --> 03:09:18,911
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: is it included in your MOOE?

3192
03:09:19,560 --> 03:09:20,811
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And according to your office,

3193
03:09:21,016 --> 03:09:22,510
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the amount of 10 million pesos

3194
03:09:22,510 --> 03:09:24,956
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: was allocated for fiscal year

3195
03:09:24,956 --> 03:09:27,048
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 2026 for this program.

3196
03:09:27,570 --> 03:09:28,429
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Is that correct, ma’am?

3197
03:09:28,560 --> 03:09:28,971
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Tama po.

3198
03:09:29,037 --> 03:09:30,926
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: At iyan po ay kasama sa hirit last year.

3199
03:09:30,926 --> 03:09:31,534
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Salamat po sa pagdagdag ng 10 million

3200
03:09:31,600 --> 03:09:34,688
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you for adding 10 million

3201
03:09:34,688 --> 03:09:36,400
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for the Law of the Sea

3202
03:09:36,400 --> 03:09:38,643
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: training and capability

3203
03:09:38,643 --> 03:09:41,924
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: upgrade for OSG.

3204
03:09:41,948 --> 03:09:44,110
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Ma’am, my question is,

3205
03:09:44,188 --> 03:09:45,636
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: is this amount lumped with

3206
03:09:45,636 --> 03:09:47,470
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: training and scholarship expense

3207
03:09:47,470 --> 03:09:49,671
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: or any other expenses

3208
03:09:49,671 --> 03:09:51,698
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: under your office MOOE?

3209
03:09:52,200 --> 03:09:52,948
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Kahiwalay po.

3210
03:09:53,363 --> 03:09:55,003
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So mula po noong natanggap

3211
03:09:55,003 --> 03:09:56,914
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: namin iyong na-allocate

3212
03:09:56,914 --> 03:09:59,344
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng Kongreso na 10 million,

3213
03:09:59,759 --> 03:10:01,981
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ang OSG po

3214
03:10:01,981 --> 03:10:04,452
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: this year nag-set up

3215
03:10:04,452 --> 03:10:06,155
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: a separate committee

3216
03:10:06,155 --> 03:10:07,588
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on the Law of the Sea

3217
03:10:07,588 --> 03:10:10,101
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: para iyong training po ay nakahiwalay

3218
03:10:10,101 --> 03:10:12,115
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: doon sa capacity

3219
03:10:12,115 --> 03:10:13,091
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: building program

3220
03:10:13,091 --> 03:10:15,209
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na halo-halo po iyong mga ibang trainings doon.

3221
03:10:15,479 --> 03:10:16,823
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So there's a separate one now.

3222
03:10:17,525 --> 03:10:17,906
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay.

3223
03:10:18,267 --> 03:10:20,213
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: I'm raising this because

3224
03:10:20,213 --> 03:10:23,122
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: if it’s lumped with TSE,

3225
03:10:23,643 --> 03:10:24,887
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: then we are not training

3226
03:10:24,887 --> 03:10:26,733
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the government lawyers enough po

3227
03:10:26,733 --> 03:10:28,217
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: on maritime issues.

3228
03:10:28,859 --> 03:10:30,704
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And also, we are not sending enough

3229
03:10:30,704 --> 03:10:32,670
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: lawyers to participate in

3230
03:10:32,670 --> 03:10:35,358
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: negotiation relating to maritime concerns.

3231
03:10:35,820 --> 03:10:37,204
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: According to your office, ma'am,

3232
03:10:37,284 --> 03:10:38,327
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the actual obligation

3233
03:10:38,327 --> 03:10:40,935
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of the Law of the Sea program

3234
03:10:40,935 --> 03:10:42,179
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: is only 422,000

3235
03:10:42,319 --> 03:10:44,336
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: out of 10 million.

3236
03:10:44,908 --> 03:10:45,551
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So ibig sabihin po,

3237
03:10:45,551 --> 03:10:48,639
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ang utilization rate pa lang po natin

3238
03:10:48,639 --> 03:10:50,800
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: as of now is 5%.

3239
03:10:50,800 --> 03:10:51,835
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Tama po ba iyon, ma’am?

3240
03:10:51,960 --> 03:10:54,220
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Tama po. Sapagkat iyong 10 million

3241
03:10:54,220 --> 03:10:56,149
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na hiningi po ng OSG

3242
03:10:56,149 --> 03:10:58,556
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: is more or less

3243
03:10:58,556 --> 03:11:00,265
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: related to our celebration

3244
03:11:00,265 --> 03:11:01,827
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: of the 10th

3245
03:11:01,827 --> 03:11:03,590
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: anniversary for the

3246
03:11:03,590 --> 03:11:04,564
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: arbitral ruling.

3247
03:11:04,766 --> 03:11:06,016
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: The 10th anniversary

3248
03:11:06,016 --> 03:11:07,394
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ay pumapatak sa July.

3249
03:11:08,239 --> 03:11:08,495
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So,

3250
03:11:09,816 --> 03:11:11,159
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: naka-align po sa

3251
03:11:11,159 --> 03:11:14,441
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: projects or programs ng DFA.

3252
03:11:14,910 --> 03:11:16,509
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So, marami po sa 10 million

3253
03:11:16,509 --> 03:11:18,555
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ay nandito sa second semester.

3254
03:11:18,811 --> 03:11:20,111
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So meron po tayo sa

3255
03:11:20,111 --> 03:11:22,157
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: September na

3256
03:11:22,157 --> 03:11:24,459
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: training with a foreign

3257
03:11:24,459 --> 03:11:27,060
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: provider. Meron po tayo sa October

3258
03:11:27,060 --> 03:11:29,404
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na joint project

3259
03:11:29,404 --> 03:11:31,280
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: with the UP Institute for

3260
03:11:31,280 --> 03:11:33,497
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Maritime and Law

3261
03:11:33,497 --> 03:11:35,564
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: of the Sea. And meron din po

3262
03:11:35,564 --> 03:11:37,610
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: tayo sa November na training

3263
03:11:37,610 --> 03:11:38,783
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for around

3264
03:11:38,783 --> 03:11:41,745
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 80 scholars po ng

3265
03:11:41,788 --> 03:11:44,559
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng OSG. So, agree po ako

3266
03:11:44,559 --> 03:11:46,029
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: dun sa una nyo pong nasabi.

3267
03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:47,801
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Kaya po gusto ko pong

3268
03:11:47,801 --> 03:11:49,831
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ulitin at i-emphasize na

3269
03:11:49,831 --> 03:11:51,712
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: kahiwalay na po ang Law of the Sea

3270
03:11:51,712 --> 03:11:53,127
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: at saka yung capacity building

3271
03:11:53,127 --> 03:11:55,343
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for more specialized training

3272
03:11:55,343 --> 03:11:56,441
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for our lawyers.

3273
03:11:57,000 --> 03:11:58,892
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay, ma'am. Kasi po, kung

3274
03:11:58,892 --> 03:12:01,091
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: titignan po natin, as of today, may

3275
03:12:01,091 --> 03:12:03,641
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 95% pa po kayong available.

3276
03:12:03,641 --> 03:12:05,615
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And then we have only

3277
03:12:05,615 --> 03:12:07,876
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: four months left po for this

3278
03:12:07,876 --> 03:12:10,015
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: year. So paano ninyo po gagamitin

3279
03:12:10,015 --> 03:12:11,618
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: iyong pondong natitira sa

3280
03:12:11,659 --> 03:12:13,551
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: 10 million pesos?

3281
03:12:13,880 --> 03:12:16,123
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Opo, Representative. So bale

3282
03:12:16,123 --> 03:12:17,961
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: naka-schedule po siya. Meron po

3283
03:12:17,961 --> 03:12:19,779
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa September, Thought Series

3284
03:12:19,779 --> 03:12:21,881
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thought Leaders

3285
03:12:21,881 --> 03:12:23,941
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Series. Sa October

3286
03:12:23,941 --> 03:12:25,962
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po, with the UP project.

3287
03:12:26,406 --> 03:12:27,962
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Sa October to November

3288
03:12:27,962 --> 03:12:29,699
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po, meron po kaming workshop

3289
03:12:29,699 --> 03:12:31,841
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on pleadings, practice and

3290
03:12:31,841 --> 03:12:34,427
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: programs

3291
03:12:34,427 --> 03:12:35,862
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: with the Max Planck

3292
03:12:35,862 --> 03:12:38,023
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Institute. And then, meron din po

3293
03:12:38,023 --> 03:12:39,822
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: tayong, napapasama na po

3294
03:12:39,822 --> 03:12:41,498
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ang OSG sa mga negotiation,

3295
03:12:42,004 --> 03:12:43,822
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: consultation with international

3296
03:12:43,822 --> 03:12:45,701
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: bodies, such as the UN

3297
03:12:45,701 --> 03:12:47,964
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Commission for

3298
03:12:47,964 --> 03:12:50,247
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Commission on the Limits of the Continental

3299
03:12:50,247 --> 03:12:52,307
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Shelf, at saka sa UNCLOS po.

3300
03:12:52,469 --> 03:12:54,229
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: So at least iyong kaunting

3301
03:12:54,229 --> 03:12:56,158
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: budget na naibigay po

3302
03:12:56,158 --> 03:12:57,750
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ninyo, at least may

3303
03:12:57,750 --> 03:12:59,510
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: naka-upgrade po nang kaunti

3304
03:12:59,510 --> 03:13:01,888
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: sa participation po ng OSG.

3305
03:13:02,600 --> 03:13:03,559
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Okay, thank you po, ma'am.

3306
03:13:03,659 --> 03:13:04,918
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Kasi, siyempre po,

3307
03:13:05,717 --> 03:13:07,316
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: if the Congress grants your request

3308
03:13:07,316 --> 03:13:09,634
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the retention of LOS program

3309
03:13:09,634 --> 03:13:10,973
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for allocation

3310
03:13:11,413 --> 03:13:13,151
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for 2027,

3311
03:13:13,871 --> 03:13:15,469
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: how can your office assure

3312
03:13:15,469 --> 03:13:17,608
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the Congress that government

3313
03:13:17,608 --> 03:13:19,446
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: lawyers will be fully trained

3314
03:13:19,446 --> 03:13:21,405
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: on maritime issues and help

3315
03:13:21,405 --> 03:13:23,743
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: the government in battling the rampant

3316
03:13:23,743 --> 03:13:25,521
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: disinformation regarding our

3317
03:13:25,521 --> 03:13:26,780
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: territorial claims?

3318
03:13:26,880 --> 03:13:29,582
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Representative, maraming salamat po talaga

3319
03:13:29,582 --> 03:13:31,251
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa atensyon na nabibigay po ninyo.

3320
03:13:31,350 --> 03:13:33,337
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Napaka-importante po. Kasi nung nanalo tayo

3321
03:13:33,337 --> 03:13:35,801
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng arbitral ruling, nung 2016

3322
03:13:35,801 --> 03:13:37,549
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na ito po'y kinikilala ng international

3323
03:13:37,549 --> 03:13:39,357
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: community, simula po

3324
03:13:39,357 --> 03:13:41,145
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng 2017, talagang nagkaroon

3325
03:13:41,304 --> 03:13:42,973
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na po ng focused training

3326
03:13:42,973 --> 03:13:45,198
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on law of the sea. And this year po,

3327
03:13:45,357 --> 03:13:46,788
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: gawa noong inyong additional

3328
03:13:46,788 --> 03:13:49,152
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na ibinigay kahit po maliit,

3329
03:13:49,331 --> 03:13:51,298
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: very meaningful and impactful po

3330
03:13:51,298 --> 03:13:52,966
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa OSG. So,

3331
03:13:53,463 --> 03:13:55,370
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: in fact, ang direksyon

3332
03:13:55,370 --> 03:13:57,337
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po natin sa OSG ay magkaroon

3333
03:13:57,337 --> 03:13:58,808
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng specialized track

3334
03:13:58,808 --> 03:14:00,933
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: for our lawyers who are

3335
03:14:00,933 --> 03:14:03,377
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: interested in undertaking

3336
03:14:03,377 --> 03:14:04,967
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: scholarship for the law of the sea

3337
03:14:04,967 --> 03:14:06,576
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: because this is a very specialized

3338
03:14:06,576 --> 03:14:08,801
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: practice of law po, Representative.

3339
03:14:09,417 --> 03:14:11,169
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you for the information.

3340
03:14:11,190 --> 03:14:13,213
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Solgen. Lastly,

3341
03:14:13,401 --> 03:14:15,362
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Mr. Chair, I would like to make a

3342
03:14:15,362 --> 03:14:17,156
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: manifestation of full support

3343
03:14:17,156 --> 03:14:18,950
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for the increase of budget

3344
03:14:18,950 --> 03:14:21,098
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: of Department of Justice,

3345
03:14:21,328 --> 03:14:22,913
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: siyempre po kay Sec Vida.

3346
03:14:23,539 --> 03:14:24,936
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: And also, I would like to

3347
03:14:24,936 --> 03:14:27,982
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: advocate for the increase of MOOE

3348
03:14:27,982 --> 03:14:29,358
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for Solgen.

3349
03:14:29,984 --> 03:14:32,091
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Sana po mangyari na po itong mga wishlist

3350
03:14:32,091 --> 03:14:34,010
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ninyo. Looking forward po

3351
03:14:34,010 --> 03:14:35,262
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: for 2027,

3352
03:14:36,096 --> 03:14:37,848
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: mas ma-improve pa po natin ang services

3353
03:14:37,848 --> 03:14:39,892
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: ng Office of the Solicitor General

3354
03:14:39,892 --> 03:14:42,229
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: and the rest of the Department of Justice.

3355
03:14:42,479 --> 03:14:43,222
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Maraming maraming salamat po.

3356
03:14:43,222 --> 03:14:43,473
Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez: Thank you po.

3357
03:14:43,943 --> 03:14:45,645
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Tina Talavera Lopez.

3358
03:14:46,610 --> 03:14:48,311
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority

3359
03:14:48,311 --> 03:14:49,627
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: representative.

3360
03:14:49,715 --> 03:14:51,807
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Perci Cendana.

3361
03:14:56,279 --> 03:14:57,477
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

3362
03:14:57,581 --> 03:15:01,072
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Good afternoon, Secretary Vida and to the DOJ family.

3363
03:15:01,558 --> 03:15:04,267
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: I'd just like to follow through, if I may, Mr. Secretary,

3364
03:15:04,840 --> 03:15:10,190
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: on the issues that were raised, particularly on online sexual abuse and exploitation of children,

3365
03:15:10,467 --> 03:15:13,439
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: kasama po iyong CSEAEM at iyong ating massive budget cuts.

3366
03:15:13,439 --> 03:15:16,609
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: May I direct the questions po? Diretso na po ba kay Asec. Lapuz?

3367
03:15:17,600 --> 03:15:18,559
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yes, of course, Your Honor.

3368
03:15:19,000 --> 03:15:20,284
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

3369
03:15:22,233 --> 03:15:30,603
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Secretary Vida, given the massive cuts in your programs and budget items,

3370
03:15:31,199 --> 03:15:34,716
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: what does this mean in terms of you doing your job?

3371
03:15:35,390 --> 03:15:42,696
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kasi nakita ko po ang range po ng cuts ay from 71%, 58%,

3372
03:15:42,696 --> 03:15:45,521
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: 14%. So ano po ang magiging epekto nito sa ating trabaho?

3373
03:15:46,960 --> 03:15:49,172
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Thank you, Your Honor, for the question.

3374
03:15:50,202 --> 03:15:50,928
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: First of all,

3375
03:15:51,080 --> 03:15:59,019
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: mapapabagal iyong national response po natin against OSAEC and against trafficking.

3376
03:15:59,528 --> 03:16:04,252
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Meron po kaming nakalatag ngayon na National Strategic Action Plan.

3377
03:16:04,350 --> 03:16:05,644
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: It's a four-year plan.

3378
03:16:06,154 --> 03:16:08,780
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And with the massive budget cuts,

3379
03:16:09,074 --> 03:16:15,523
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: meron pong mga priority programs na maaaring hindi ma-implement.

3380
03:16:15,523 --> 03:16:19,679
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And alam naman po natin, pag sinasabi nating strategic action plan,

3381
03:16:20,482 --> 03:16:22,423
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: kailangan naka-step by step iyan.

3382
03:16:22,560 --> 03:16:26,284
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Hindi ka maka-proceed to other important programs

3383
03:16:26,284 --> 03:16:28,597
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: unless you build the foundations first.

3384
03:16:28,597 --> 03:16:32,792
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Ang maganda po dito, despite limitations in resources,

3385
03:16:33,439 --> 03:16:38,865
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: nakabuo na po tayo ng magandang mechanism for local task forces

3386
03:16:38,865 --> 03:16:42,282
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to do responses on the ground.

3387
03:16:42,924 --> 03:16:48,930
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Pero kulang na kulang po iyong capability by these local task forces

3388
03:16:48,930 --> 03:16:50,007
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: because,

3389
03:16:50,815 --> 03:16:55,185
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: una, kulang po iyong budget allocations.

3390
03:16:55,185 --> 03:16:56,324
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: At the same time,

3391
03:16:56,924 --> 03:16:58,353
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: fragmented pa rin po iyong response.

3392
03:17:00,259 --> 03:17:03,199
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Kailangan itawid iyong national program

3393
03:17:03,199 --> 03:17:09,040
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: at i-localize po siya sa mga strategic local governments

3394
03:17:09,040 --> 03:17:12,270
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and local task forces that are already in place.

3395
03:17:12,395 --> 03:17:15,377
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: However, if we don't have enough resources

3396
03:17:15,377 --> 03:17:18,276
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: to support the operations of these mechanisms,

3397
03:17:18,276 --> 03:17:20,347
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: mapapabagal po iyong rescue operations.

3398
03:17:21,880 --> 03:17:25,681
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Important po iyong rescue operations

3399
03:17:25,681 --> 03:17:29,060
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: because this leads to victim identification.

3400
03:17:29,377 --> 03:17:31,066
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: If we identify victims,

3401
03:17:31,214 --> 03:17:34,360
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: then we know how to get to them,

3402
03:17:34,445 --> 03:17:35,247
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: where they are,

3403
03:17:35,395 --> 03:17:36,092
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: who they are.

3404
03:17:36,177 --> 03:17:37,254
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We can rescue them.

3405
03:17:37,507 --> 03:17:42,280
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We can take a child out of an abusive situation

3406
03:17:42,280 --> 03:17:43,399
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the soonest possible time.

3407
03:17:43,800 --> 03:17:47,459
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we are really advocating po to, at the very least,

3408
03:17:47,459 --> 03:17:52,351
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: restore the budget levels of NCC-OSAEC and IACAT to the 2026 levels.

3409
03:17:52,840 --> 03:17:56,529
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mr. Chair, I am extremely alarmed

3410
03:17:56,529 --> 03:17:58,935
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at the scenario we're looking at

3411
03:17:58,935 --> 03:18:02,920
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: to the budget levels for the special enforcement

3412
03:18:02,920 --> 03:18:04,971
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: and protection sub-program

3413
03:18:04,971 --> 03:18:07,338
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: remain at the current levels as proposed.

3414
03:18:08,127 --> 03:18:10,672
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ibig sabihin po nito, parang sinasabi natin,

3415
03:18:10,869 --> 03:18:13,848
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: okay lang na hindi ma-rescue ang mga biktima.

3416
03:18:14,479 --> 03:18:17,487
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Okay lang na bumagal ang ating proseso

3417
03:18:17,487 --> 03:18:19,650
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: para tiyakin na maililigtas sila.

3418
03:18:19,650 --> 03:18:21,381
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: We usually say that the budget

3419
03:18:21,381 --> 03:18:22,383
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: is the most concrete,

3420
03:18:22,403 --> 03:18:25,844
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: expression of an administration's priority.

3421
03:18:25,844 --> 03:18:29,521
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So ibig sabihin po ba nito dito sa massive budget cuts na ito,

3422
03:18:29,521 --> 03:18:35,420
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: hindi priority ng gobyerno ang pagliligtas sa mga biktima ng OSAEC.

3423
03:18:35,420 --> 03:18:40,591
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Hindi priority ng gobyerno ang pag-rescue sa lalong madaling panahon

3424
03:18:40,591 --> 03:18:45,015
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa pinakamabilis na paraan ito pong mga biktima po.

3425
03:18:45,015 --> 03:18:51,405
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nito pong napakalaking, masasabi nating, sindikato

3426
03:18:51,405 --> 03:18:52,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na nag-ooperate.

3427
03:18:52,880 --> 03:18:55,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Earlier you mentioned that now we're not just talking about individuals

3428
03:18:55,880 --> 03:18:59,380
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: but we're also talking about how AI is being used.

3429
03:18:59,380 --> 03:19:00,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: With this massive budget cuts,

3430
03:19:00,880 --> 03:19:04,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: how will you be able to respond to this much bigger problem?

3431
03:19:05,880 --> 03:19:10,004
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: We need to catch up, sir, on our mechanisms.

3432
03:19:10,004 --> 03:19:12,581
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Dahil nga po, constantly evolving

3433
03:19:12,581 --> 03:19:16,705
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: and nagiging mas complicated yung modus operandi

3434
03:19:16,705 --> 03:19:20,829
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: ng mga gumagawa po ng illegal recruitment, for example,

3435
03:19:20,829 --> 03:19:21,695
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: or grooming,

3436
03:19:21,695 --> 03:19:25,303
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: na-mention po kanina ni Secretary of Justice

3437
03:19:25,303 --> 03:19:32,520
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: iyong groomers behind iyong mga nihilistic violent extremism incidents po.

3438
03:19:32,520 --> 03:19:39,394
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: Now we don't even need an actual person conducting the enticement of our youth.

3439
03:19:39,394 --> 03:19:43,813
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: It could be an AI agent doing that.

3440
03:19:43,813 --> 03:19:50,687
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And if we don't put in place the foundations of our IT infrastructure

3441
03:19:50,687 --> 03:19:57,561
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: for the proper, timely, and commensurate response to the threat,

3442
03:19:57,561 --> 03:20:01,980
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: the AI po being used to perpetrate these crimes,

3443
03:20:01,980 --> 03:20:03,453
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: that is the threat.

3444
03:20:03,453 --> 03:20:11,800
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: And we need to provide for a corresponding response to the threat.

3445
03:20:11,800 --> 03:20:16,308
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: So we need to consider yung constantly evolving mechanisms po

3446
03:20:16,308 --> 03:20:18,562
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: of how these crimes are being perpetrated.

3447
03:20:18,562 --> 03:20:22,618
DOJ Assistant Secretary Michelle Anne Lapuz: For us to be able to be one, two, three steps ahead of the threats.

3448
03:20:22,618 --> 03:20:23,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3449
03:20:23,520 --> 03:20:24,720
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Thank you, Usec.

3450
03:20:24,720 --> 03:20:26,520
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Asec.

3451
03:20:26,520 --> 03:20:31,315
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So hindi lamang po pala yung mga masasamang elementong ito ang threat

3452
03:20:31,315 --> 03:20:33,712
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: sa kaligtasan ng ating mga kabataan.

3453
03:20:33,712 --> 03:20:36,589
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Yung mismo pong budget na pinutol at tinanggal

3454
03:20:36,589 --> 03:20:38,986
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: is also a threat to the safety of our children.

3455
03:20:38,986 --> 03:20:43,301
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Again, we support you in restoring your budget to the 2026 levels.

3456
03:20:43,301 --> 03:20:47,137
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And kahit po kami ay bahagi ng minority, kasama niyo po kami.

3457
03:20:47,617 --> 03:20:51,932
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: We support your advocacy para po sa lalong madaling panahon ma-restore to 2026 levels.

3458
03:20:51,932 --> 03:20:55,288
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Deserve po ng ating mga bata na maprotektahan.

3459
03:20:55,288 --> 03:20:57,685
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: At yung mga nasa peligro na po,

3460
03:20:57,685 --> 03:21:03,439
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: deserve na deserve nila ang immediate rescue at assistance.

3461
03:21:03,439 --> 03:21:12,000
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mr. Chair, let me direct my next set of questions to the Bureau of Immigration.

3462
03:21:12,000 --> 03:21:13,600
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Magandang hapon po, Commissioner Viado.

3463
03:21:13,600 --> 03:21:16,720
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Magandang hapon po, Congressman Cendana.

3464
03:21:16,720 --> 03:21:17,678
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Magandang hapon po.

3465
03:21:17,678 --> 03:21:19,595
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ito po ay tungkol po sa usapin ng

3466
03:21:19,595 --> 03:21:25,346
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nung mga paggamit ng blacklist at entry restrictions as a political tool.

3467
03:21:25,346 --> 03:21:28,221
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nakita po natin yan noong nakaraang administrasyon.

3468
03:21:28,221 --> 03:21:33,971
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ginamit itong mga blacklist at entry restrictions laban sa mga advocates,

3469
03:21:33,971 --> 03:21:38,763
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: laban sa mga aktibista, at laban sa mismong kinatawan ng United Nations

3470
03:21:38,763 --> 03:21:40,680
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: na human rights advocate.

3471
03:21:40,680 --> 03:21:44,737
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Ginamit ito in aid of violence and impunity.

3472
03:21:44,737 --> 03:21:48,794
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Noong 2026 po, sinabi ng Amnesty International Philippines,

3473
03:21:48,794 --> 03:21:54,880
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: nananatiling mayroong entry ban si Amnesty International Secretary General Agnès Callamard

3474
03:21:54,880 --> 03:22:00,965
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: as a result of her previous work as, again, UN Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial Killings.

3475
03:22:00,965 --> 03:22:07,051
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nagsimula po ang ban na ito noong 2018, bunga ng public attack ni former President Rodrigo Duterte.

3476
03:22:07,051 --> 03:22:12,122
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Kaya mahalaga pong malaman natin meron po bang sapat na safeguards ang BI

3477
03:22:12,122 --> 03:22:17,193
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: upang matiyak na hindi ito nagagamit arbitrarily, hindi ito naweweaponize,

3478
03:22:17,193 --> 03:22:23,279
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: at para po tiyakin na hindi ito ginagamit laban sa human rights work and peaceful advocacy.

3479
03:22:23,279 --> 03:22:32,960
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: The first question, Mr. Chair: maaari po bang kumpirmahin ng BI ang kasalukuyang status ng entry restriction kay Ms. Agnès Callamard?

3480
03:22:32,960 --> 03:22:50,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If I may confirm with my colleague, Your Honor.

3481
03:22:50,000 --> 03:22:57,667
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honors, ang lahat po ng desisyon ng Bureau of Immigration ay dumaan po sa proseso, unang-una.

3482
03:22:57,667 --> 03:22:58,482
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang information po na nakalap namin ay hindi lang po galing sa vetting na ginawa ng Bureau of Immigration,

3483
03:22:59,297 --> 03:23:00,926
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but galing po sa ibang mga ahensya,

3484
03:23:00,926 --> 03:23:01,741
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: dito po and internationally.

3485
03:23:01,741 --> 03:23:05,000
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We refer to Interpol lists, we refer to fugitive status of individuals bago po kami umaksyon.

3486
03:23:05,000 --> 03:23:11,165
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And internally, Your Honor, bago po kami mag-issue ng any blacklist, dumadaan po iyan sa proseso

3487
03:23:11,165 --> 03:23:17,331
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: kung saan ang legal division, ang amin hong mga abogado sa legal division,

3488
03:23:17,331 --> 03:23:20,414
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and eventually iyong mga Board of Special Inquiry at Board of Commissioners.

3489
03:23:20,845 --> 03:23:26,887
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Dinadaanan po iyan ng hindi lang maikling proseso pero mahaba-haba po, Your Honor.

3490
03:23:27,319 --> 03:23:33,399
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So we can assure po, Your Honors, na any decision, any order concerning any blacklist

3491
03:23:33,399 --> 03:23:37,204
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ay dumaan po sa tamang proseso at legal na pamamaraan po, Your Honor.

3492
03:23:37,204 --> 03:23:45,519
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po arbitrary, hindi po

3493
03:23:45,720 --> 03:23:49,198
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: at the behest of any individual. Ito po ay ginagawa po sa level po ng aming bureau.

3494
03:23:49,198 --> 03:23:56,453
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: So the question again, Mr. Chair, ano po ang status ng entry restriction kay Ms. Agnès Callamard?

3495
03:23:56,560 --> 03:24:05,937
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Again po, si Ms. Agnès Callamard po, sigurado ako wala po iyan sa blacklist ng Interpol.

3496
03:24:05,937 --> 03:24:15,421
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: She is former United Nations Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial Killings.

3497
03:24:16,960 --> 03:24:20,515
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We are confirming po iyong status ni Special Rapporteur Callamard.

3498
03:24:20,885 --> 03:24:25,610
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But kung base po dito sa information po na nakalap namin ngayon, galing po dito sa honorable body na ito,

3499
03:24:25,625 --> 03:24:28,868
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we are willing to also review the status of the Special Rapporteur.

3500
03:24:29,120 --> 03:24:37,994
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Because we are in favor of human rights, we are in favor of other persons from other countries coming into our country

3501
03:24:37,994 --> 03:24:42,485
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and to see how we have gone forward as far as human rights are concerned, Your Honor.

3502
03:24:43,319 --> 03:24:46,757
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Mr. Chair, thank you very much, Commissioner Viado, for that response.

3503
03:24:47,164 --> 03:24:50,195
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: And we welcome your willingness to review your guidelines, no?

3504
03:24:50,195 --> 03:24:55,321
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Lalo na po pagdating sa mga human rights defenders, international advocates, journalists,

3505
03:24:55,525 --> 03:24:58,027
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: academics, and especially UN officials.

3506
03:24:58,800 --> 03:25:05,146
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Sa proseso po noong pag-review, inaasahan po natin na hindi na ito magagamit as a political weapon

3507
03:25:05,146 --> 03:25:08,728
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: against voices of dissent, against voices of human rights.

3508
03:25:08,960 --> 03:25:14,330
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: Nagawa na po ito noong madilim na panahon ng Rehimen Duterte, huwag na po nating hayaang maulit.

3509
03:25:14,527 --> 03:25:18,165
Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña: That will be all, Mr. Chair. Marami pong salamat sa DOJ family.

3510
03:25:18,560 --> 03:25:19,441
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you rin po, Your Honor.

3511
03:25:19,840 --> 03:25:21,031
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Congressman Cendana.

3512
03:25:21,618 --> 03:25:22,952
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the majority.

3513
03:25:26,000 --> 03:25:30,790
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Rep. Ann Matibag.

3514
03:25:34,593 --> 03:25:39,870
Rep. Ann Matibag: Ann Matibag. Thank you. Um, I just want to interject also,

3515
03:25:39,880 --> 03:25:45,070
Rep. Ann Matibag: no, after what my good friend Cong. Perci

3516
03:25:45,080 --> 03:25:50,030
Rep. Ann Matibag: has conveyed, especially to the OSAEC cases. We are really disheartened on

3517
03:25:50,040 --> 03:25:55,429
Rep. Ann Matibag: what happened with the deduction of your budget, and

3518
03:25:55,439 --> 03:26:00,389
Rep. Ann Matibag: with the OSAEC cases, we were more surprised

3519
03:26:00,399 --> 03:26:05,309
Rep. Ann Matibag: that much in the Department, 'yung mga law enforcement pa,

3520
03:26:05,319 --> 03:26:10,710
Rep. Ann Matibag: 'yung mas nabawasan din, no, like the Bureau of Immigration and the National

3521
03:26:10,720 --> 03:26:14,910
Rep. Ann Matibag: Bureau of Investigation. So I just want to commend Mr.

3522
03:26:14,920 --> 03:26:20,030
Rep. Ann Matibag: Chair, Secretary Vida, and your whole team.

3523
03:26:20,040 --> 03:26:25,790
Rep. Ann Matibag: We were in New York, in the United Nations, last March. I am with Usec. Majken Anika, and

3524
03:26:25,800 --> 03:26:30,590
Rep. Ann Matibag: I want to commend their program, which is the Revised CANE+D

3525
03:26:30,600 --> 03:26:36,030
Rep. Ann Matibag: Protocol, which is intended to provide a more standardized and coordinated

3526
03:26:36,040 --> 03:26:41,269
Rep. Ann Matibag: way of handling cases such as this of violence against women and children.

3527
03:26:41,279 --> 03:26:45,990
Rep. Ann Matibag: So this emphasizes the clarity on the responsibilities of the agencies involved,

3528
03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:51,150
Rep. Ann Matibag: coordinating among them, and a more child-sensitive approach to investigation

3529
03:26:51,160 --> 03:26:56,750
Rep. Ann Matibag: and prosecution. So this is not just a policy in paper. I just want to

3530
03:26:56,760 --> 03:27:01,670
Rep. Ann Matibag: tell—and I'm just so proud of this program of the Department

3531
03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:06,710
Rep. Ann Matibag: of Justice—and this has already begun

3532
03:27:06,720 --> 03:27:12,269
Rep. Ann Matibag: bringing the Revised Protocol to the local level. I remember when

3533
03:27:12,279 --> 03:27:16,910
Rep. Ann Matibag: my group, my social organization, Zonta Club of Laguna,

3534
03:27:16,920 --> 03:27:22,229
Rep. Ann Matibag: went to the office of Secretary Vida, and he was very happy to tell us that

3535
03:27:22,239 --> 03:27:27,389
Rep. Ann Matibag: this is not just laws. This is not just a memorandum or any piece of paper or

3536
03:27:27,399 --> 03:27:32,429
Rep. Ann Matibag: a policy, but they already launched nationally in August

3537
03:27:32,439 --> 03:27:37,469
Rep. Ann Matibag: 2025, followed by the provincial implementation in Cavite in

3538
03:27:37,479 --> 03:27:41,670
Rep. Ann Matibag: March 2026 and in Cebu in July 2026.

3539
03:27:41,680 --> 03:27:47,309
Rep. Ann Matibag: So for me, this is exactly the kind of program that deserves support in the

3540
03:27:47,319 --> 03:27:53,070
Rep. Ann Matibag: 2027 budget, especially I'm the chairperson of the Committee on Women and Gender

3541
03:27:53,080 --> 03:27:58,150
Rep. Ann Matibag: Equality, and I'm with Cong. Sarah Elago and Cong. Perci,

3542
03:27:58,160 --> 03:28:02,950
Rep. Ann Matibag: who are members of my committee. Rest assured that I just want to manifest my

3543
03:28:02,960 --> 03:28:08,630
Rep. Ann Matibag: support, that we will make sure that your budget will not only be increased,

3544
03:28:08,640 --> 03:28:13,790
Rep. Ann Matibag: but with what you wish and hope for to have, especially to the department

3545
03:28:13,800 --> 03:28:18,710
Rep. Ann Matibag: of the wife of Cong. Keith—she's the director—so we

3546
03:28:18,720 --> 03:28:23,590
Rep. Ann Matibag: are in support of that. And maybe before the plenary session, we can

3547
03:28:23,600 --> 03:28:29,030
Rep. Ann Matibag: huddle and think things together, and maybe discuss on

3548
03:28:29,040 --> 03:28:33,910
Rep. Ann Matibag: how we can really explain

3549
03:28:33,920 --> 03:28:39,349
Rep. Ann Matibag: and discuss this budget that we need to really

3550
03:28:39,359 --> 03:28:44,309
Rep. Ann Matibag: bring it back to the DOJ's wish. And I am very happy to

3551
03:28:44,319 --> 03:28:49,030
Rep. Ann Matibag: see everyone here. DOJ, special po kayo dahil

3552
03:28:49,040 --> 03:28:54,389
Rep. Ann Matibag: ako'y pinalaki ng isang fiscal—ang tatay ko.

3553
03:28:54,399 --> 03:28:59,550
Rep. Ann Matibag: Especially now that NBI here is very,

3554
03:28:59,560 --> 03:29:04,710
Rep. Ann Matibag: very responsive to the needs of being a law enforcement for women and children.

3555
03:29:04,720 --> 03:29:09,968
Rep. Ann Matibag: So, maraming-maraming salamat po. You have my support and respect. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3556
03:29:11,099 --> 03:29:15,750
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Ann Matibag, sa suporta po sa ating pong ahensya.

3557
03:29:15,760 --> 03:29:20,853
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority, Representative Leila de Lima.

3558
03:29:24,720 --> 03:29:26,359
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

3559
03:29:26,359 --> 03:29:27,371
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Good afternoon to my colleagues.

3560
03:29:27,493 --> 03:29:31,986
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And good afternoon to Secretary Vida and the DOJ family.

3561
03:29:31,986 --> 03:29:34,010
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Kumusta po kayo?

3562
03:29:34,010 --> 03:29:35,021
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay.

3563
03:29:35,021 --> 03:29:44,048
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Let me start by manifesting not only my support for the budget, the department-wide budget

3564
03:29:44,048 --> 03:29:49,512
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: of the DOJ, but also support for the push for the restoration of some of the areas of

3565
03:29:49,512 --> 03:29:50,160
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: the DOJ.

3566
03:29:50,160 --> 03:29:55,819
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: some of the budget that was cut, including the ones for OSAEC and also

3567
03:29:55,819 --> 03:30:04,095
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: for IACAT. And we do note very much the significant cuts, of course, in the

3568
03:30:04,095 --> 03:30:12,553
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: DOJ-wide budget, a 61.82% cut, and then the biggest among the agencies is the

3569
03:30:12,553 --> 03:30:22,168
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Bucor by 84.18% cut. I'm talking about the NEP as against the proposed budget

3570
03:30:22,168 --> 03:30:35,596
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: and then also NBI as 65.84%. So ang gusto ko pong i-ano ngayon, lalo na dyan sa Bucor and sa NBI, if you wish to

3571
03:30:35,596 --> 03:30:42,127
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: insist about or for more in your wish list for increase in the budget, please

3572
03:30:42,127 --> 03:30:42,573
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: tell us.

3573
03:30:43,486 --> 03:30:50,058
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But specific items in the budget for Bucor, for DOJ, for NBI, and even the

3574
03:30:50,058 --> 03:30:58,172
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: others, OSG and even PAO, so that we can help you out, at least put back the

3575
03:30:58,172 --> 03:31:05,656
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: priority, your priority programs that were actually cut in the NEP.

3576
03:31:06,265 --> 03:31:15,372
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Now, I wish to direct my questions first to BI.

3577
03:31:16,224 --> 03:31:22,898
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: then to Bucor and the DOJ proper.

3578
03:31:25,920 --> 03:31:29,619
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I would wish also to pursue further the case of Dr. Calamard.

3579
03:31:29,912 --> 03:31:30,351
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, ma'am.

3580
03:31:30,937 --> 03:31:36,046
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: It struck me what you said, that it was not at any behest when you make any blacklisting.

3581
03:31:36,138 --> 03:31:36,797
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, ma'am.

3582
03:31:36,797 --> 03:31:40,862
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Sa case ho ba ni Dr. Callamard, ganoon? It was at no one’s behest.

3583
03:31:41,833 --> 03:31:43,280
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as I know, Your Honor.

3584
03:31:43,444 --> 03:31:45,166
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: We want to understand further.

3585
03:31:46,576 --> 03:31:49,359
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: What was the legal basis for the blacklisting of Dr. Calamard?

3586
03:31:49,359 --> 03:31:55,119
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Your Honor, based on the record, it was a national security concern, Your Honor.

3587
03:31:55,119 --> 03:31:56,708
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: A national security concern?

3588
03:31:56,708 --> 03:31:57,701
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes.

3589
03:31:57,701 --> 03:32:01,673
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Do you have any specific explanation for that?

3590
03:32:01,673 --> 03:32:03,659
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: National security concern?

3591
03:32:03,659 --> 03:32:05,645
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Meron ho bang security threat?

3592
03:32:05,645 --> 03:32:07,631
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: There was no crime committed, correct?

3593
03:32:07,631 --> 03:32:09,617
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: There was no crime committed?

3594
03:32:09,617 --> 03:32:11,604
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as I know, Your Honor, no.

3595
03:32:11,604 --> 03:32:13,590
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And there was no immigration violation?

3596
03:32:13,590 --> 03:32:14,583
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3597
03:32:14,583 --> 03:32:15,615
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Immigration laws violation?

3598
03:32:15,615 --> 03:32:16,609
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes, Your Honor.

3599
03:32:16,609 --> 03:32:17,602
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Immigration laws violation committed.

3600
03:32:17,602 --> 03:32:20,581
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But what you are saying now is a national security threat.

3601
03:32:20,581 --> 03:32:21,574
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

3602
03:32:21,574 --> 03:32:32,497
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But isn’t she the one who investigated the drug-war killings as the former UN Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial killings?

3603
03:32:32,497 --> 03:32:33,491
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, yes.

3604
03:32:33,491 --> 03:32:39,449
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That is based on the records available, Your Honor, to us at the moment, Your Honor.

3605
03:32:39,449 --> 03:32:44,414
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I can dig deeper into this matter, Your Honor, because this matter, I think, was...

3606
03:32:45,407 --> 03:32:52,359
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: occurred even before we came into, you know, we were appointed to the Bureau of Immigration.

3607
03:32:52,359 --> 03:32:55,338
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But if...

3608
03:32:55,338 --> 03:33:01,296
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So hanggang ngayon po, hindi ninyo talaga alam exactly kung anong naging basehan?

3609
03:33:01,296 --> 03:33:07,255
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang basehan po is based on reports from a national security agency, Your Honor.

3610
03:33:07,255 --> 03:33:14,206
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But I can give you the details and the other facts and issues concerning this matter.

3611
03:33:15,199 --> 03:33:19,122
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If you can give us a chance, Your Honor, we can give you a full detailed report on that matter.

3612
03:33:19,122 --> 03:33:23,044
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Hindi ho ba merong motion for reconsideration with respect to that?

3613
03:33:23,044 --> 03:33:29,909
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: As far back as August 2026, there is this motion for reconsideration on the blacklisting of Dr. Calamard.

3614
03:33:29,909 --> 03:33:30,890
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the lifting, Your Honor?

3615
03:33:30,890 --> 03:33:34,813
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: For the lifting, for the lifting of the blacklist.

3616
03:33:34,813 --> 03:33:43,639
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And isn’t it that under the BI Omnibus Rules, the commissioner is supposed to resolve a lifting petition within 15 working days?

3617
03:33:44,620 --> 03:33:45,600
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor...

3618
03:33:45,600 --> 03:33:49,523
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Bakit napakatagal na iyong ginagawa ninyong review about the case of Dr. Callamard?

3619
03:33:49,523 --> 03:33:53,446
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, as far as I know, there is no pending matter involving this.

3620
03:33:53,446 --> 03:33:57,368
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But once we get back to the office, Your Honor, we will act on it right away.

3621
03:33:57,368 --> 03:33:59,330
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: How soon can we expect that?

3622
03:33:59,330 --> 03:34:07,175
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Because this is, you know, this matter is being monitored, actually, by certain UN officials.

3623
03:34:07,175 --> 03:34:09,137
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor. We understand, Your Honor.

3624
03:34:09,137 --> 03:34:12,079
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We will act on it right away by tomorrow, Your Honor.

3625
03:34:12,079 --> 03:34:13,059
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay.

3626
03:34:14,040 --> 03:34:18,189
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay. Doon naman po sa CAIS.

3627
03:34:18,189 --> 03:34:19,227
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That’s the CAIS, Your Honor.

3628
03:34:19,227 --> 03:34:20,264
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: The CAIS.

3629
03:34:20,264 --> 03:34:21,301
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

3630
03:34:21,301 --> 03:34:24,413
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: May pino-propose kayong additional P480 fee.

3631
03:34:24,413 --> 03:34:25,451
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor.

3632
03:34:25,451 --> 03:34:27,525
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the CAISS.

3633
03:34:27,525 --> 03:34:34,787
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Bago ho ninyo na-propose itong fee na ito, was there any alternative funding source being considered?

3634
03:34:34,787 --> 03:34:44,123
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Considering, Your Honor, that this is a public-private partnership program, Your Honor, there was no alternative discussed.

3635
03:34:44,123 --> 03:34:49,309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: This is an unsolicited proposal which came from a private proponent.

3636
03:34:49,309 --> 03:35:00,720
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes. So why should—I mean, I’m just wondering—why should the cost of modernizing immigration infrastructure be passed on to the traveling public, even if it’s covered by a PPP?

3637
03:35:00,720 --> 03:35:12,482
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, first and foremost, we need a more integrative program which covers

3638
03:35:12,482 --> 03:35:19,343
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a border security platform with biometrics, advanced analytics, and passenger information system, actually, to enhance national security and immigration control, Your Honor.

3639
03:35:19,343 --> 03:35:29,145
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At the moment, there is no particular program which can be funded by the national government at this level.

3640
03:35:29,145 --> 03:35:38,947
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The private proponent proposes to put the capitalization in the amount of 10.7 billion for the next five years.

3641
03:35:38,947 --> 03:35:41,888
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And with the constant upgrade of the system every four years

3642
03:35:41,888 --> 03:35:46,788
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for the next 20-year period, Your Honor, at no cost to the government.

3643
03:35:46,788 --> 03:35:47,769
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At no cost to the government.

3644
03:35:47,769 --> 03:35:49,729
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At no cost to the government, Your Honor.

3645
03:35:49,729 --> 03:35:56,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But you’re still insisting on the P480 fee, because that is what is being demanded.

3646
03:35:56,590 --> 03:36:02,471
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Actually, Your Honor, it is P240 per ticket.

3647
03:36:02,471 --> 03:36:07,372
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So if it’s a round-trip ticket, Your Honor, it’s P480.

3648
03:36:07,372 --> 03:36:09,333
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Compared to other countries, this is way below.

3649
03:36:09,333 --> 03:36:11,293
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: This is actually the practice in other countries.

3650
03:36:11,293 --> 03:36:22,075
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The US, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan have been doing this at costs which is much higher than what we are proposing.

3651
03:36:22,075 --> 03:36:31,877
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As a matter of fact, Your Honor, if you can compare, Australia charges about 2,600 pesos per passenger.

3652
03:36:31,877 --> 03:36:34,817
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Singapore charges 2,400.

3653
03:36:34,817 --> 03:36:38,738
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Japan charges about 1,200.

3654
03:36:38,738 --> 03:36:40,698
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hong Kong charges about 1,500.

3655
03:36:40,698 --> 03:36:42,659
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thailand charges about 1,500.

3656
03:36:42,659 --> 03:36:47,560
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And Thailand charges about 1,800, Your Honor.

3657
03:36:47,560 --> 03:36:49,520
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So it stays?

3658
03:36:49,520 --> 03:36:50,565
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I'm sorry, Your Honor.

3659
03:36:50,565 --> 03:36:52,654
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: The imposition of that fee would stay?

3660
03:36:52,654 --> 03:36:53,698
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I'm sorry, Your Honor?

3661
03:36:53,698 --> 03:36:55,788
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: It would stay?

3662
03:36:55,788 --> 03:36:57,877
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is still under review, Your Honor.

3663
03:36:57,877 --> 03:36:59,966
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The contract is still under review, yes.

3664
03:36:59,966 --> 03:37:03,100
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We have not signed any contract.

3665
03:37:03,100 --> 03:37:07,278
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is still under review by the DOF.

3666
03:37:07,278 --> 03:37:09,368
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The DOJ finished the review already.

3667
03:37:09,368 --> 03:37:16,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is still under review by the Department of Finance and other concerned government agencies, Your Honor.

3668
03:37:16,680 --> 03:37:23,801
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Sa BuCor naman po, nasaan na po ngayon si retired Major General Jovito Palparan?

3669
03:37:23,801 --> 03:37:29,904
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Is he still physically present and confined at the moment at the maximum security compound?

3670
03:37:29,904 --> 03:37:32,956
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: With the permission of our Secretary, yes.

3671
03:37:32,956 --> 03:37:38,042
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ma'am, General Palparan is still with us.

3672
03:37:38,042 --> 03:37:41,094
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: He is confined in New Bilibid Prison.

3673
03:37:41,094 --> 03:37:50,249
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Why were there reports that there were notices addressed to Palparan from the Supreme Court

3674
03:37:50,249 --> 03:37:59,404
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: and then was returned or they were returned unserved because prison authorities refused to receive them,

3675
03:37:59,404 --> 03:38:02,455
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: stating that Palparan was no longer detained there?

3676
03:38:02,455 --> 03:38:07,542
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: In fact, the envelopes of these notices bear a specific annotation.

3677
03:38:07,542 --> 03:38:08,559
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: It says,

3678
03:38:08,559 --> 03:38:11,610
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Moved out, transferred to BuCor, Baguio.

3679
03:38:11,610 --> 03:38:15,679
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: In a separate envelope, moved out to PMA, Baguio.

3680
03:38:15,679 --> 03:38:17,714
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So which is which?

3681
03:38:17,714 --> 03:38:18,731
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: I think...

3682
03:38:18,731 --> 03:38:20,766
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Ang bilis naman po ng five minutes.

3683
03:38:22,800 --> 03:38:26,440
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Hinold ninyo ho ba iyong sasagot?

3684
03:38:26,440 --> 03:38:28,260
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But anyway, please answer that.

3685
03:38:28,260 --> 03:38:30,079
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair,

3686
03:38:30,079 --> 03:38:33,719
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: General Palparan has never been moved out from New Bilibid Prison.

3687
03:38:33,719 --> 03:38:35,539
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: from New Bilibid Prison.

3688
03:38:35,539 --> 03:38:37,359
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: The one who...

3689
03:38:37,359 --> 03:38:41,310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: The post-office officials are now being investigated

3690
03:38:41,310 --> 03:38:45,260
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: because they are the ones who are at fault.

3691
03:38:45,260 --> 03:38:50,199
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Sila po ang may kasalanan niyan na nag-report sila na hindi kami in-inform.

3692
03:38:50,199 --> 03:38:52,174
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya po inimbestigahan?

3693
03:38:52,174 --> 03:38:57,112
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Actually, tinanggal na sila at iniimbestigahan po ngayon.

3694
03:38:57,112 --> 03:38:58,100
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So under investigation?

3695
03:38:58,100 --> 03:38:59,087
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Under investigation.

3696
03:38:59,087 --> 03:39:02,050
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Kasi bakit sila maglalagay ng ganoong annotation kung hindi totoo?

3697
03:39:02,050 --> 03:39:03,038
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Iyon nga po.

3698
03:39:03,038 --> 03:39:04,026
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Obviously,

3699
03:39:04,026 --> 03:39:06,001
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: oversight po ng mga tauhan iyan.

3700
03:39:06,001 --> 03:39:08,964
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Iyan po iyong problema sa BuCor.

3701
03:39:08,964 --> 03:39:11,927
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May mga tao diyan talaga na

3702
03:39:11,927 --> 03:39:13,902
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: incorrigible,

3703
03:39:13,902 --> 03:39:14,890
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: recidivist,

3704
03:39:14,890 --> 03:39:17,853
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: iyong mga hindi talaga seryoso sa trabaho.

3705
03:39:17,853 --> 03:39:18,840
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: That is...

3706
03:39:18,840 --> 03:39:20,816
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: You’re talking about the BuCor employees themselves?

3707
03:39:20,816 --> 03:39:21,803
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes. Opo.

3708
03:39:21,803 --> 03:39:22,791
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: That's why I...

3709
03:39:22,791 --> 03:39:27,729
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Kung binabago natin iyong pamamalakad sa mga PDL,

3710
03:39:27,729 --> 03:39:31,680
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: binabago din natin iyong pamamalakad natin sa mga tauhan.

3711
03:39:31,680 --> 03:39:32,829
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: So on your word, Director General,

3712
03:39:32,829 --> 03:39:40,871
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Major General Palparan was never actually transferred to any facility?

3713
03:39:40,871 --> 03:39:42,020
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Never.

3714
03:39:42,020 --> 03:39:43,168
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Never.

3715
03:39:43,168 --> 03:39:46,615
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: May I ask one more question on Bucor?

3716
03:39:46,615 --> 03:39:47,764
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Ask a question.

3717
03:39:47,764 --> 03:39:48,913
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Okay.

3718
03:39:48,913 --> 03:39:52,359
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Although I have several more, but this one.

3719
03:39:52,359 --> 03:39:58,344
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: There’s still illegal drug trade going on within your facilities,

3720
03:39:58,344 --> 03:40:02,334
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: including the New Bilibid Prison, NBP.

3721
03:40:02,334 --> 03:40:03,332
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes.

3722
03:40:03,332 --> 03:40:06,324
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: I must admit, Your Honor.

3723
03:40:06,324 --> 03:40:08,319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Ano ho ba ang nagiging problema?

3724
03:40:08,319 --> 03:40:11,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang problema po, iyong mga PDL.

3725
03:40:11,319 --> 03:40:15,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Unang-una, hindi sila na-rehab; dinala sa amin.

3726
03:40:15,319 --> 03:40:18,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So may withdrawal symptoms sila.

3727
03:40:18,319 --> 03:40:20,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag tinanong sila ng bibisitahin,

3728
03:40:20,319 --> 03:40:23,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: “Ano bang gusto ninyong ibigay,

3729
03:40:23,319 --> 03:40:24,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dalhin, pasalubong o pagkain?”

3730
03:40:24,319 --> 03:40:26,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: What do you want to eat?

3731
03:40:26,319 --> 03:40:27,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang hinihingi po, drugs.

3732
03:40:27,319 --> 03:40:28,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So...

3733
03:40:28,319 --> 03:40:30,319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: At bakit ho nakakalusot ang drugs?

3734
03:40:30,319 --> 03:40:32,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi po nilalagay sa private parts, eh.

3735
03:40:32,319 --> 03:40:36,319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: But you have inspection procedures, correct?

3736
03:40:36,319 --> 03:40:37,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, ma'am.

3737
03:40:37,319 --> 03:40:38,319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: And based on reports,

3738
03:40:38,319 --> 03:40:42,319
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: you have actually tightened those inspection procedures.

3739
03:40:42,319 --> 03:40:43,319
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, ma'am.

3740
03:40:43,319 --> 03:40:45,235
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May nakakalusot pong pailan-ilan

3741
03:40:45,235 --> 03:40:49,068
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi talaga pong nasa private parts.

3742
03:40:49,068 --> 03:40:50,026
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then, of course,

3743
03:40:50,026 --> 03:40:54,817
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: may mga tao tayong in connivance with PDLs.

3744
03:40:54,817 --> 03:40:55,775
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So I must admit.

3745
03:40:55,775 --> 03:40:58,649
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya iyan po iyong nire-report ko sa inyo,

3746
03:40:58,649 --> 03:41:00,566
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na isipin ninyo.

3747
03:41:00,566 --> 03:41:01,524
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Think about it.

3748
03:41:01,524 --> 03:41:02,482
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Isang nurse

3749
03:41:02,482 --> 03:41:05,356
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagpasok ng pandesal

3750
03:41:05,356 --> 03:41:07,273
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na may shabu—

3751
03:41:07,273 --> 03:41:08,231
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pandesal, pandeshal.

3752
03:41:08,231 --> 03:41:09,189
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Shabu.

3753
03:41:09,189 --> 03:41:10,147
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pandeshal.

3754
03:41:10,147 --> 03:41:11,105
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So...

3755
03:41:11,105 --> 03:41:12,063
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So nakasuhan po iyon.

3756
03:41:12,063 --> 03:41:13,979
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Tanggal na sa serbisyo iyon.

3757
03:41:13,979 --> 03:41:14,938
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So...

3758
03:41:14,938 --> 03:41:15,896
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang mga na-dismiss po diyan

3759
03:41:15,896 --> 03:41:17,812
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ay 43.

3760
03:41:17,812 --> 03:41:20,686
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Suspended, 137.

3761
03:41:20,686 --> 03:41:21,645
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And of course,

3762
03:41:21,645 --> 03:41:23,561
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: reprimanded, 41.

3763
03:41:23,561 --> 03:41:24,519
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, ma'am,

3764
03:41:24,519 --> 03:41:26,435
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi po katulad dito ng military.

3765
03:41:26,435 --> 03:41:27,393
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Outright,

3766
03:41:27,393 --> 03:41:28,352
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: puwede ko,

3767
03:41:28,352 --> 03:41:30,268
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: using the Articles of War,

3768
03:41:30,268 --> 03:41:32,184
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tanggal ka na sa serbisyo.

3769
03:41:32,184 --> 03:41:34,100
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero dito po,

3770
03:41:34,100 --> 03:41:35,059
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: But here,

3771
03:41:35,059 --> 03:41:36,017
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi puwede.

3772
03:41:36,017 --> 03:41:36,975
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Dadaan sa Civil Service;

3773
03:41:36,975 --> 03:41:38,891
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang daming proseso.

3774
03:41:38,891 --> 03:41:39,849
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Hindi po tayo makakapag-weed out

3775
03:41:39,849 --> 03:41:40,807
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga bulok na tauhan

3776
03:41:40,807 --> 03:41:41,766
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: that are coming from

3777
03:41:41,766 --> 03:41:44,640
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng BuCor kaagad-agad.

3778
03:41:44,640 --> 03:41:46,854
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Follow-up lang po ito.

3779
03:41:46,854 --> 03:41:47,961
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Iyong mga tina-transfer ninyo,

3780
03:41:47,961 --> 03:41:49,067
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: we know na meron kayong mga tina-transfer

3781
03:41:49,067 --> 03:41:52,388
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa mga penal colonies

3782
03:41:52,388 --> 03:41:53,495
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na mga PDLs.

3783
03:41:53,495 --> 03:41:54,602
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: That's correct.

3784
03:41:54,602 --> 03:41:56,815
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nababantayan ho ba talaga iyon?

3785
03:41:56,815 --> 03:42:08,703
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang ginawa ko, for the longest time, iyong Chinese drug lords sa NBP, nilipat ko lahat sa Mindoro, sa Supermax.

3786
03:42:08,880 --> 03:42:17,263
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At iyong report naman namin, we will submit to you, na drastically nabawasan na natin ang pagpasok ng mga drugs.

3787
03:42:17,263 --> 03:42:29,075
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: May mga nangyayari po. Iyong bibisitang misis may dala-dalang drugs, nilalagay sa private parts.

3788
03:42:30,123 --> 03:42:37,114
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Meron ngang kuwento sa akin iyong mga guard, nagbibiro: nahuli raw nila kasi iyong cellphone nag-ring.

3789
03:42:37,781 --> 03:42:42,811
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And then nakuha doon sa private parts niya, may cellphone, may adaptor, meron pang drugs.

3790
03:42:43,306 --> 03:42:45,154
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So napakaliit na babae.

3791
03:42:45,345 --> 03:42:45,821
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo. Totoo po.

3792
03:42:45,840 --> 03:42:45,954
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Yes, that's true.

3793
03:42:46,202 --> 03:42:46,812
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Paano po iyon?

3794
03:42:47,250 --> 03:42:48,641
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Meron pong nangyaring ganoon.

3795
03:42:49,479 --> 03:42:58,656
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya talaga po, pagka ayaw nilang magpa-inspection, hindi na po namin puwedeng mag-conjugal visit kung ayaw magpa-inspect noong misis.

3796
03:43:01,762 --> 03:43:08,761
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Tinatanong ko rin po iyan kasi iyong mga so-called witnesses doon sa kaso ko, those who gave perjurious testimonies,

3797
03:43:09,467 --> 03:43:12,593
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: iyong mga nai-transfer na po, iyon ho ba iyong mga nababantayan?

3798
03:43:13,602 --> 03:43:14,610
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: They were watched.

3799
03:43:15,034 --> 03:43:15,215
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: That's why.

3800
03:43:15,881 --> 03:43:17,757
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: You know who I’m referring to?

3801
03:43:17,858 --> 03:43:24,110
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: All those drug lords, those witnesses who testified in my cases—they were supposed to be transferred.

3802
03:43:24,473 --> 03:43:25,885
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Nandoon po sila sa Mindoro?

3803
03:43:26,954 --> 03:43:27,398
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes.

3804
03:43:27,640 --> 03:43:29,688
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pag bumibisita ako, nagno-noise barrage sila.

3805
03:43:30,543 --> 03:43:32,888
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Tapos sabi ko, “Picturan mo lahat iyong nag-iingay.”

3806
03:43:33,127 --> 03:43:38,196
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Hahanapan ko pa ng isang isla iyan. Ilagay ko sa isang isla na separate branch.

3807
03:43:38,196 --> 03:43:40,463
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kasi nagrereklamo sila.

3808
03:43:41,059 --> 03:43:43,803
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nagrereklamo po kasi nilipat sila doon sa Mindoro.

3809
03:43:44,399 --> 03:43:45,254
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So, really...

3810
03:43:45,254 --> 03:43:48,037
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: They would want back to New Bilibid Prison.

3811
03:43:48,037 --> 03:43:52,013
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Sa New Bilibid po, medyo mahirap po talagang ma-secure dahil—

3812
03:43:52,709 --> 03:43:58,275
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kaya kailangan po isara na po natin iyang New Bilibid Prison dahil napaka-crowded po talaga.

3813
03:43:59,548 --> 03:44:00,045
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: At regional na lang.

3814
03:44:00,840 --> 03:44:01,921
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes.

3815
03:44:04,000 --> 03:44:05,872
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I have no time anymore.

3816
03:44:05,992 --> 03:44:08,756
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: I have questions supposedly to DOJ proper, but I have no time.

3817
03:44:08,825 --> 03:44:10,817
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

3818
03:44:11,040 --> 03:44:11,404
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Cong. Leila.

3819
03:44:11,404 --> 03:44:11,977
Rep. Leila M. de Lima: Maraming salamat po.

3820
03:44:12,914 --> 03:44:13,781
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line...

3821
03:44:13,781 --> 03:44:14,649
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line…

3822
03:44:16,800 --> 03:44:24,790
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Of course, my predecessor, previous sponsor of the DOJ budget, Cong Rufus Rodriguez.

3823
03:44:26,560 --> 03:44:28,096
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

3824
03:44:28,236 --> 03:44:33,404
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Good afternoon to my distinguished colleagues and our valued resource persons this afternoon.

3825
03:44:34,502 --> 03:44:43,740
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I am here because I am here to support the budget of the OSEC and all the departments

3826
03:44:43,740 --> 03:44:47,411
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and attached agencies of the Department of Justice.

3827
03:44:47,411 --> 03:44:47,691
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Why?

3828
03:44:47,711 --> 03:44:47,870
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Why?

3829
03:44:49,267 --> 03:44:58,047
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I finished my undergraduate studies in De La Salle because I was able to get the salary of my father,

3830
03:44:58,905 --> 03:45:02,496
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: who was for 20 years provincial fiscal of Misamis Oriental.

3831
03:45:03,235 --> 03:45:10,917
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And I would go to the, you know, La Salle, and then we go by jeepney to Padre Faura and get it.

3832
03:45:10,917 --> 03:45:12,214
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So thank you again.

3833
03:45:12,832 --> 03:45:17,641
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: My life, therefore, has a history of support from the Department of Justice,

3834
03:45:17,641 --> 03:45:21,073
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and we can never, our family can never forget that.

3835
03:45:21,612 --> 03:45:28,705
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So first questions will be—these questions are leading questions—

3836
03:45:30,142 --> 03:45:32,437
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: To increase the budget of the OSEC.

3837
03:45:32,536 --> 03:45:34,691
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Mr. Secretary, Frederick Vida.

3838
03:45:35,210 --> 03:45:35,669
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, sir.

3839
03:45:35,689 --> 03:45:38,503
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: The OSEC, while it looks like there is an increase,

3840
03:45:39,680 --> 03:45:47,841
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: however, your MOOE has been reduced from 1.9 to only 1.6,

3841
03:45:47,841 --> 03:45:49,138
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: so that 203.

3842
03:45:49,717 --> 03:45:53,767
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: million decrease. What is your wish on this, Mr. Secretary?

3843
03:45:58,117 --> 03:46:04,801
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor, to meet the levels of 2026, to be restored to that level,

3844
03:46:05,280 --> 03:46:11,945
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that the department would have sufficient resources to fulfill its mandate, Your Honor.

3845
03:46:12,683 --> 03:46:13,142
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

3846
03:46:13,142 --> 03:46:17,951
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So we will work on that in the BARC, in our Committee of Vice Chairpersons,

3847
03:46:18,370 --> 03:46:20,764
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and then hopefully in the BICAM.

3848
03:46:21,263 --> 03:46:21,961
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So thank you.

3849
03:46:21,961 --> 03:46:23,358
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So restoration of 2.9.

3850
03:46:23,358 --> 03:46:26,291
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 2.3 for Secretary of Justice Vida.

3851
03:46:26,391 --> 03:46:26,930
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Is that all?

3852
03:46:31,200 --> 03:46:32,382
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, Your Honor.

3853
03:46:32,802 --> 03:46:35,847
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We made mention earlier of the request,

3854
03:46:36,087 --> 03:46:41,375
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so particularly on the reduction of the NEP 2027

3855
03:46:41,375 --> 03:46:45,321
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from the proposed budget for the Office of the Cybercrime,

3856
03:46:45,902 --> 03:46:49,808
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the NCC-OSAEC and the IACAT.

3857
03:46:50,249 --> 03:46:52,052
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Those are of particular importance,

3858
03:46:52,693 --> 03:46:56,819
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: which we do not want to lose the momentum that we have now, Your Honor.

3859
03:46:57,059 --> 03:46:59,102
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much for the three agencies?

3860
03:47:00,164 --> 03:47:04,030
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Similarly, Your Honor, to be restored to the levels of 2026.

3861
03:47:04,330 --> 03:47:04,771
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Which is?

3862
03:47:05,352 --> 03:47:06,153
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Which is?

3863
03:47:07,475 --> 03:47:09,839
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Take note, because we're going to work for this.

3864
03:47:12,893 --> 03:47:14,095
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Forty-five, seventy.

3865
03:47:18,862 --> 03:47:20,865
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Approximately 130 million, Your Honor.

3866
03:47:21,787 --> 03:47:22,027
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Only?

3867
03:47:22,528 --> 03:47:24,130
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: For the three agencies?

3868
03:47:24,351 --> 03:47:25,012
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes, for...

3869
03:47:25,693 --> 03:47:28,717
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Please, please note down, because we’re going to make sure that it will be restored.

3870
03:47:28,717 --> 03:47:29,558
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: To meet the 2026 level.

3871
03:47:29,558 --> 03:47:31,782
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yes, at least 2026 level.

3872
03:47:32,263 --> 03:47:33,424
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Anything else, Secretary?

3873
03:47:35,618 --> 03:47:41,587
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, particular interest would be on the request of the NBI

3874
03:47:41,587 --> 03:47:49,839
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: on their pursuit and in the particular challenge in addressing cybercrime

3875
03:47:49,839 --> 03:47:56,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in pursuit of their investigation and their push

3876
03:47:56,109 --> 03:48:03,660
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that the requested budget from the DBM be restored on the ICT projects and programs.

3877
03:48:03,720 --> 03:48:04,722
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Thank you, Your Honor.

3878
03:48:04,722 --> 03:48:08,167
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yes, good that you've mentioned, because I'm going to go one by one,

3879
03:48:08,648 --> 03:48:12,393
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: those who were reduced in their 2027 NEP.

3880
03:48:12,934 --> 03:48:15,418
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And we're going now to NBI, because mentioned already.

3881
03:48:16,800 --> 03:48:20,391
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Director Melvin Matibag,

3882
03:48:20,950 --> 03:48:24,501
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: is it correct that your agency,

3883
03:48:25,239 --> 03:48:27,294
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: the National Bureau of Investigation,

3884
03:48:27,294 --> 03:48:30,346
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: from 3.791 million,

3885
03:48:31,024 --> 03:48:33,518
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: it is now only 2.9 billion?

3886
03:48:33,578 --> 03:48:33,678
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: All right.

3887
03:48:33,698 --> 03:48:39,663
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It’s a decrease of 882 million, 23.2 percent.

3888
03:48:39,742 --> 03:48:40,381
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Is that correct?

3889
03:48:41,059 --> 03:48:41,777
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, sir.

3890
03:48:42,176 --> 03:48:42,875
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, Your Honor.

3891
03:48:43,114 --> 03:48:44,291
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How can they do that to you?

3892
03:48:45,767 --> 03:48:46,825
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: I have no idea.

3893
03:48:47,363 --> 03:48:52,231
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Just to be clear, I think the reason why is the utilization at that time,

3894
03:48:52,610 --> 03:48:57,159
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: because there are some ICT projects that need to be aligned,

3895
03:48:58,017 --> 03:48:58,475
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: be completed.

3896
03:48:58,475 --> 03:49:03,603
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: But right now, we have recognized the reasons for that,

3897
03:49:03,622 --> 03:49:05,617
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and I think the...

3898
03:49:06,356 --> 03:49:07,333
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: The catch-up plan, right?

3899
03:49:07,553 --> 03:49:08,211
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: That's correct.

3900
03:49:08,311 --> 03:49:10,445
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So you finish everything by December 31?

3901
03:49:10,525 --> 03:49:13,418
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: By December, we will have 98 percent utilization.

3902
03:49:13,677 --> 03:49:19,343
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: The remaining 2 percent will be for the maintenance of the ICT that we will be installing,

3903
03:49:19,483 --> 03:49:22,096
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which has already been obligated by this time, Your Honor.

3904
03:49:22,734 --> 03:49:23,253
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very good.

3905
03:49:23,373 --> 03:49:26,744
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So assuming, because we will assume that you will do it.

3906
03:49:26,784 --> 03:49:27,902
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You’re a very good director.

3907
03:49:28,261 --> 03:49:28,580
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Thank you.

3908
03:49:28,580 --> 03:49:30,874
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So you will be able...

3909
03:49:30,874 --> 03:49:33,507
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Can you place here a restoration of 880?

3910
03:49:33,547 --> 03:49:35,762
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 882 million, correct?

3911
03:49:36,201 --> 03:49:36,679
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes.

3912
03:49:36,819 --> 03:49:37,916
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And you're satisfied with that?

3913
03:49:38,176 --> 03:49:41,846
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Well, I have a specific request, Mr. Chair.

3914
03:49:42,186 --> 03:49:43,223
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Say that now.

3915
03:49:43,702 --> 03:49:45,338
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It will not be counted against my time.

3916
03:49:45,457 --> 03:49:52,101
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Our agents right now is getting a hazard pay of only 4,000 pesos monthly.

3917
03:49:52,739 --> 03:49:57,108
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So we are requesting at least we can be leveled with the other law enforcements,

3918
03:49:57,108 --> 03:50:03,452
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: which is probably the reasonable amount will be 15,000 monthly for them to operate properly,

3919
03:50:03,472 --> 03:50:07,123
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: our agents has been transferred from one province to another,

3920
03:50:07,123 --> 03:50:12,250
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and they’ve been operating 24/7, like the concern on the issue of OSAEC.

3921
03:50:13,188 --> 03:50:17,776
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Records will reveal that we have so many operations and apprehensions on OSAEC

3922
03:50:17,776 --> 03:50:22,245
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and other crimes, cyber crimes also, which we've been addressing.

3923
03:50:23,063 --> 03:50:30,444
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: So I'm respectfully requesting that the hazard pay of our agents from 4,000 be increased to 15,000 at least.

3924
03:50:30,784 --> 03:50:31,482
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 15,000?

3925
03:50:31,641 --> 03:50:31,881
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes.

3926
03:50:32,160 --> 03:50:32,579
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Approved.

3927
03:50:32,579 --> 03:50:33,377
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Thank you.

3928
03:50:33,397 --> 03:50:34,375
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: From me, from me.

3929
03:50:35,232 --> 03:50:35,352
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

3930
03:50:37,367 --> 03:50:38,225
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Work for that.

3931
03:50:38,464 --> 03:50:39,043
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Salamat po.

3932
03:50:40,200 --> 03:50:45,446
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: The NBI director is my good, you know, our cherished faculty member.

3933
03:50:45,585 --> 03:50:51,529
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I was dean of San Sebastian College of Law, and I personally requested President Rueda to teach,

3934
03:50:51,869 --> 03:50:53,903
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: and he was there for quite some time with me.

3935
03:50:54,422 --> 03:50:58,072
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And so now to Chief Rueda-Acosta, what do you need?

3936
03:50:58,072 --> 03:51:02,600
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I think it will be about the opening of more, you know,

3937
03:51:02,939 --> 03:51:03,238
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: PAO.

3938
03:51:03,318 --> 03:51:11,994
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: PAO lawyers because of the ratio of courts vis-a-vis the PAO attorneys.

3939
03:51:12,912 --> 03:51:15,984
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We need 559 lawyers, Your Honor.

3940
03:51:16,343 --> 03:51:18,377
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We are amenable to half the number.

3941
03:51:18,776 --> 03:51:20,372
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is 500?

3942
03:51:20,950 --> 03:51:21,808
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, 500.

3943
03:51:22,027 --> 03:51:23,084
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is that?

3944
03:51:23,603 --> 03:51:24,860
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: One billion, Your Honor.

3945
03:51:25,538 --> 03:51:26,794
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You just know it.

3946
03:51:27,393 --> 03:51:28,989
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Because of the high salary.

3947
03:51:30,125 --> 03:51:31,741
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We are amenable to half.

3948
03:51:31,741 --> 03:51:32,958
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is one half?

3949
03:51:33,237 --> 03:51:35,531
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Half, only, Your Honor.

3950
03:51:35,671 --> 03:51:37,924
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Maybe 225 new lawyers.

3951
03:51:38,463 --> 03:51:40,158
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: But give us 400 staff.

3952
03:51:40,258 --> 03:51:41,216
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: We have no staff.

3953
03:51:42,093 --> 03:51:43,948
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: There is no creation of staff position.

3954
03:51:44,148 --> 03:51:46,402
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much will be the total of that?

3955
03:51:46,820 --> 03:51:49,792
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Meaning both the PAO lawyers and the staff?

3956
03:51:50,471 --> 03:51:53,722
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 200 lawyers, maybe, and 400 staff.

3957
03:51:53,842 --> 03:51:56,355
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That may be around 600 million.

3958
03:51:57,093 --> 03:51:57,691
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Reasonable?

3959
03:51:58,948 --> 03:52:00,583
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Around 700 million.

3960
03:52:00,623 --> 03:52:01,561
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Oh, reasonable also.

3961
03:52:01,561 --> 03:52:02,897
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So 700.

3962
03:52:03,156 --> 03:52:04,154
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: 700 million.

3963
03:52:04,154 --> 03:52:05,151
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: We try to have that.

3964
03:52:05,151 --> 03:52:06,148
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

3965
03:52:06,148 --> 03:52:09,140
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because the Department of Justice and our PAO should support it.

3966
03:52:09,140 --> 03:52:10,138
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

3967
03:52:10,138 --> 03:52:11,135
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Thank you, Your Honor.

3968
03:52:11,135 --> 03:52:12,132
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Remember, I worked hard for this last year.

3969
03:52:12,132 --> 03:52:13,130
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yes, Your Honor.

3970
03:52:13,130 --> 03:52:14,127
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: They knew.

3971
03:52:14,127 --> 03:52:15,124
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: But fortunately, there was no...

3972
03:52:15,124 --> 03:52:18,116
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: There is continuous creation of courts, branches of courts.

3973
03:52:18,116 --> 03:52:19,113
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That's correct.

3974
03:52:19,113 --> 03:52:20,111
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: That's correct.

3975
03:52:20,111 --> 03:52:23,103
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: So we need fiscals and PAO lawyers at the same time, Your Honor.

3976
03:52:23,103 --> 03:52:24,100
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

3977
03:52:24,100 --> 03:52:30,565
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And then, of course, my favorite, Commissioner of the Bureau of Immigration, where I was once

3978
03:52:30,565 --> 03:52:31,556
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: one of the Bureau.

3979
03:52:31,556 --> 03:52:32,548
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct.

3980
03:52:32,548 --> 03:52:41,471
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Commissioner, I understand here in your office, the BI has been greatly reduced by

3981
03:52:41,471 --> 03:52:44,446
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 1.6 billion.

3982
03:52:44,446 --> 03:52:49,404
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How is that, Commissioner Viado, with your very outstanding performance there?

3983
03:52:49,404 --> 03:52:50,395
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You're doing so well.

3984
03:52:50,395 --> 03:52:52,378
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Why are they reducing that?

3985
03:52:52,378 --> 03:52:55,353
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I don't know the reason why, Your Honor.

3986
03:52:55,353 --> 03:52:57,336
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But thank you very much for the endorsement.

3987
03:52:57,336 --> 03:53:01,302
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we will increase the additional budget.

3988
03:53:01,302 --> 03:53:02,293
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yeah.

3989
03:53:02,293 --> 03:53:07,251
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What will be the more important priority budget you would request from the committee?

3990
03:53:07,251 --> 03:53:09,234
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Your Honor.

3991
03:53:09,234 --> 03:53:16,175
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: First and foremost, we would like to inform the committee and, of course, the honorable

3992
03:53:16,175 --> 03:53:22,124
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Representative, Congressman Rodriguez, that we already moved to our new building, Your

3993
03:53:22,124 --> 03:53:23,115
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Honor.

3994
03:53:23,115 --> 03:53:24,107
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So we would...

3995
03:53:24,107 --> 03:53:25,098
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

3996
03:53:25,098 --> 03:53:30,056
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we would need the budget for capital outlay for the post-construction of the new BI building.

3997
03:53:30,056 --> 03:53:31,047
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It was removed, Your Honor.

3998
03:53:31,047 --> 03:53:32,039
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is that?

3999
03:53:32,039 --> 03:53:33,030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: In the amount of 276,280,000, Your Honor.

4000
03:53:33,030 --> 03:53:34,022
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

4001
03:53:34,022 --> 03:53:35,013
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What else?

4002
03:53:35,013 --> 03:53:45,920
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we would also like to ask for the capital outlay for the locally funded projects for

4003
03:53:45,920 --> 03:53:50,878
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the development, enhancement, and procurement of IT systems and infrastructures, not only

4004
03:53:50,878 --> 03:53:56,827
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: within the main building, the new BI building, but also our support offices, Your Honor.

4005
03:53:56,827 --> 03:53:57,818
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So the amount is...

4006
03:53:57,818 --> 03:53:58,810
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Total is 1,200,527,811, Your Honor.

4007
03:53:58,810 --> 03:53:59,801
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

4008
03:53:59,801 --> 03:54:00,793
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 527,811, Your Honor.

4009
03:54:00,793 --> 03:54:01,784
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Of that for you to be able to perform.

4010
03:54:01,784 --> 03:54:02,776
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4011
03:54:02,776 --> 03:54:03,767
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And I was in your new building with Secretary Rimulya at the time.

4012
03:54:03,767 --> 03:54:04,759
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4013
03:54:04,759 --> 03:54:05,751
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And it’s a very good building right there on Macapagal Avenue.

4014
03:54:05,751 --> 03:54:06,742
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4015
03:54:06,742 --> 03:54:07,734
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

4016
03:54:07,734 --> 03:54:08,725
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Anything else?

4017
03:54:08,725 --> 03:54:09,717
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's all, Your Honor.

4018
03:54:09,717 --> 03:54:10,708
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much.

4019
03:54:10,708 --> 03:54:11,700
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you very much.

4020
03:54:11,700 --> 03:54:12,691
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

4021
03:54:12,691 --> 03:54:13,683
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: We will work on this.

4022
03:54:13,683 --> 03:54:14,674
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

4023
03:54:14,674 --> 03:54:15,666
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And then next, we will have the OSG.

4024
03:54:15,666 --> 03:54:16,657
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Solicitor General Darlene Marie Berberabe is here.

4025
03:54:16,657 --> 03:54:17,649
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes, Your Honor.

4026
03:54:31,530 --> 03:54:32,531
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You have an increase, but do you need more?

4027
03:54:32,531 --> 03:54:33,531
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes, Your Honor.

4028
03:54:33,531 --> 03:54:47,740
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: The increase of 248 million, I think 255 will go to the first-year installment for the building

4029
03:54:47,740 --> 03:54:58,227
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: that OSG will procure through the GSIS lease-to-own financing framework.

4030
03:54:58,227 --> 03:54:59,228
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So . . .

4031
03:54:59,228 --> 03:55:03,230
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Iyon po iyong nasa ISSP, 123 million.

4032
03:55:03,830 --> 03:55:07,873
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How much is the entire building? Because the Ombudsman is buying, GSIS also.

4033
03:55:08,113 --> 03:55:14,237
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yung sa OSG po, total of 4.5 billion pesos for the whole OSG,

4034
03:55:15,118 --> 03:55:17,879
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: and may balik din po naman sa government,

4035
03:55:18,039 --> 03:55:22,482
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sapagkat ibebenta po yung OSG main building now sa Amor Solo Street,

4036
03:55:22,622 --> 03:55:23,723
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: so babalik po yun.

4037
03:55:24,043 --> 03:55:27,966
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So around maybe 800 million to 1 billion pesos din po yun.

4038
03:55:27,966 --> 03:55:31,908
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: And then, ang hiningi lang po namin ay dahil through the MYCA,

4039
03:55:32,469 --> 03:55:38,933
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: so 255 million will go to the first year installment to be paid to GSIS.

4040
03:55:39,053 --> 03:55:39,913
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: 250 million?

4041
03:55:40,994 --> 03:55:41,714
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: First year?

4042
03:55:42,035 --> 03:55:44,356
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: First year. So iyon po iyong nakalagay sa NEP.

4043
03:55:44,736 --> 03:55:47,538
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Has the DBM approved your MYCA proposal?

4044
03:55:47,718 --> 03:55:52,441
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because if it is there, every year we'll be able to put a budget.

4045
03:55:52,441 --> 03:55:57,805
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes, ang nailagay po ng DBM dahil ang timeline po namin,

4046
03:55:57,985 --> 03:56:02,868
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: six months pa to kung makonfirm, then mafifit out po yung building.

4047
03:56:03,128 --> 03:56:04,669
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So half year lang po.

4048
03:56:05,790 --> 03:56:12,734
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Ang nawala po yung sa computerization, sa digital transformation program po yung 100 million.

4049
03:56:12,734 --> 03:56:14,235
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very important. How much is that?

4050
03:56:14,875 --> 03:56:16,256
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 123 million po.

4051
03:56:16,757 --> 03:56:18,738
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Computerization, we need that very much.

4052
03:56:18,758 --> 03:56:19,058
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Yes.

4053
03:56:19,298 --> 03:56:22,220
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Plus the building, 250 for the year, next year.

4054
03:56:22,220 --> 03:56:25,202
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Iyong pong building, nandoon na po iyon sa NEP.

4055
03:56:25,582 --> 03:56:27,223
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So ang medyo inihihirit po yung...

4056
03:56:28,004 --> 03:56:31,546
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na-exclude po, gawa ng isiningit po yung sa building.

4057
03:56:31,686 --> 03:56:34,608
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay. Digitalization is very important.

4058
03:56:34,768 --> 03:56:35,088
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you.

4059
03:56:35,448 --> 03:56:36,649
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So anything else?

4060
03:56:37,610 --> 03:56:43,553
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Our solicitor general, who is doing a very good job in the Supreme Court of the Republic of the Philippines.

4061
03:56:44,114 --> 03:56:45,335
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you. Thank you po.

4062
03:56:45,335 --> 03:56:51,939
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Na-iraos na po natin ang GAA oral argument sa Supreme Court.

4063
03:56:52,019 --> 03:56:53,720
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Thank you, Congressman Rufus.

4064
03:56:53,900 --> 03:56:57,781
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And we have the office of the ADR reduced also.

4065
03:56:58,022 --> 03:57:01,963
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very small part, reduced pa. Where is the OADR head?

4066
03:57:02,723 --> 03:57:05,244
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Here, sir. Good afternoon, sir.

4067
03:57:06,265 --> 03:57:06,725
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Here.

4068
03:57:07,625 --> 03:57:08,245
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yes, sir.

4069
03:57:08,805 --> 03:57:11,967
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It was reduced by 26 million.

4070
03:57:12,547 --> 03:57:13,167
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: That's right.

4071
03:57:14,748 --> 03:57:15,908
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What is your wish?

4072
03:57:16,088 --> 03:57:24,351
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Well, you are like some other official saying, I just scolded the CDA representative in that hearing just recently

4073
03:57:24,351 --> 03:57:27,913
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: with the Department of Industry.

4074
03:57:28,033 --> 03:57:32,714
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because he said, he said, this budget will do.

4075
03:57:32,854 --> 03:57:33,735
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Can you imagine that?

4076
03:57:35,475 --> 03:57:37,296
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: He will agree to the small budget.

4077
03:57:37,836 --> 03:57:41,718
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: He will never say that in a budget hearing that we will make do with the budget.

4078
03:57:42,198 --> 03:57:46,579
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You fight always so that you will have an increase in your budget.

4079
03:57:46,739 --> 03:57:47,420
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What do you say?

4080
03:57:48,300 --> 03:57:49,540
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: That's correct, Your Honor.

4081
03:57:49,540 --> 03:57:50,021
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: Rufus.

4082
03:57:50,021 --> 03:57:58,004
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: We would like to propose restoring it to the original 168 million for 2027.

4083
03:57:58,044 --> 03:58:03,506
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So we restore 26 million, correct?

4084
03:58:04,206 --> 03:58:04,666
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: That's right.

4085
03:58:04,666 --> 03:58:05,366
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: OADR, right?

4086
03:58:05,506 --> 03:58:05,826
OADR Executive Director Jose Maria Palaganas: That's right.

4087
03:58:06,407 --> 03:58:08,988
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Oh, OGCC also reduced.

4088
03:58:09,748 --> 03:58:11,489
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Please say your piece.

4089
03:58:15,900 --> 03:58:23,723
Office of the Government Corporate Counsel representative: Mr. Chairman, we will defer to the judgment of the DBM, Your Honor.

4090
03:58:23,743 --> 03:58:25,204
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You never defer to the judgment.

4091
03:58:25,364 --> 03:58:26,384
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: They always lower everything.

4092
03:58:27,945 --> 03:58:29,665
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Anyway, Mr. Chairman.

4093
03:58:29,685 --> 03:58:40,069
Office of the Government Corporate Counsel representative: Mr. Chairman, we have an optimization plan that we presented to the DBM and we hope they will...

4094
03:58:40,069 --> 03:58:42,710
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So, we will work also for you.

4095
03:58:43,290 --> 03:58:50,773
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And then, my second-to-the-last question is the Parole and Probation Administration.

4096
03:58:50,873 --> 03:58:51,433
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: My goodness.

4097
03:58:52,194 --> 03:58:53,154
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Your budget is small.

4098
03:58:53,854 --> 03:58:57,075
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Reduced by 49 million.

4099
03:58:57,195 --> 03:58:57,916
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: What can you say?

4100
03:58:58,396 --> 03:58:59,656
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Administrator Benitez,

4101
03:58:59,696 --> 03:59:00,176
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Where are you?

4102
03:59:05,098 --> 03:59:05,458
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ah, yes.

4103
03:59:07,099 --> 03:59:07,939
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: For...

4104
03:59:07,939 --> 03:59:08,580
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bukor.

4105
03:59:08,780 --> 03:59:09,260
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ah, Bukor.

4106
03:59:09,400 --> 03:59:10,640
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Bukor, let me see.

4107
03:59:12,841 --> 03:59:14,242
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Ah, you were increased.

4108
03:59:14,942 --> 03:59:17,323
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So, are you thanking the DBM for that?

4109
03:59:17,863 --> 03:59:23,405
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: We are requesting more for next year.

4110
03:59:23,525 --> 03:59:27,106
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: But hopefully, this budget will not anymore be touched.

4111
03:59:27,807 --> 03:59:30,148
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: It will never be reduced, but it will be increased.

4112
03:59:30,648 --> 03:59:32,168
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

4113
03:59:32,168 --> 03:59:32,969
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How about the...

4114
03:59:33,809 --> 03:59:34,909
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Administrator Benitez.

4115
03:59:35,910 --> 03:59:36,850
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Ah, you are Administrator Benitez.

4116
03:59:36,850 --> 03:59:37,785
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, sir.

4117
03:59:37,785 --> 03:59:39,676
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: How about the Parole and Probation Administration?

4118
03:59:39,676 --> 03:59:40,671
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Your Honor.

4119
03:59:40,671 --> 03:59:41,667
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Sino?

4120
03:59:41,667 --> 03:59:42,841
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Parole Probation?

4121
03:59:42,841 --> 03:59:43,836
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yeah.

4122
03:59:43,836 --> 03:59:45,249
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: You are General?

4123
03:59:45,249 --> 03:59:46,662
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Bienvenido, sir.

4124
03:59:47,100 --> 03:59:47,500
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Yes, sir.

4125
03:59:48,120 --> 03:59:50,280
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I have a wrong addressee.

4126
03:59:50,940 --> 03:59:53,500
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I have some letter for you.

4127
03:59:54,200 --> 04:00:00,080
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So the parole probation, again, was reduced by 49 million.

4128
04:00:00,840 --> 04:00:01,300
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Yes, Your Honor.

4129
04:00:01,300 --> 04:00:03,260
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So what are the important items to be restored?

4130
04:00:04,840 --> 04:00:08,880
Parole and Probation Administration representative: In our case, we were reduced by 49 million,

4131
04:00:08,880 --> 04:00:14,160
Parole and Probation Administration representative: pero po kasi intact na po kami sa ISSP computerization namin.

4132
04:00:14,160 --> 04:00:20,080
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Ang wish list po namin ay para sa probation officers’ ladderized

4133
04:00:20,320 --> 04:00:26,160
Parole and Probation Administration representative: three-year improvement program for their major competencies po.

4134
04:00:26,420 --> 04:00:34,080
Parole and Probation Administration representative: This is about 8,198,000 for a three-year period.

4135
04:00:36,100 --> 04:00:37,860
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Eight million?

4136
04:00:38,100 --> 04:00:39,180
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So not billion?

4137
04:00:39,700 --> 04:00:40,600
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Very small?

4138
04:00:41,120 --> 04:00:41,540
Parole and Probation Administration representative: Yes, sir.

4139
04:00:41,540 --> 04:00:42,440
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Eight million.

4140
04:00:42,660 --> 04:00:43,880
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So we'll try to work on that.

4141
04:00:44,160 --> 04:00:45,440
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Any other agency not called?

4142
04:00:45,540 --> 04:00:47,540
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Because I think I called everybody already.

4143
04:00:51,340 --> 04:00:52,900
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I'll just, okay.

4144
04:00:53,520 --> 04:00:54,920
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Lahat naman yata nakuha na, no?

4145
04:00:55,820 --> 04:00:57,420
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: PCGG, yes?

4146
04:00:57,960 --> 04:00:58,480
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: PCGG.

4147
04:00:59,040 --> 04:00:59,300
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Yeah.

4148
04:01:00,060 --> 04:01:01,600
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Well, you have an increase here.

4149
04:01:02,120 --> 04:01:03,740
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: But what is the wish of PCGG?

4150
04:01:03,740 --> 04:01:13,820
PCGG Chairperson: Ang wish po namin, eto talagang wish po, is more institutional rather than budgetary.

4151
04:01:14,380 --> 04:01:14,800
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Okay.

4152
04:01:14,800 --> 04:01:14,860
PCGG Chairperson: Okay.

4153
04:01:15,440 --> 04:01:22,960
PCGG Chairperson: So our wish is that the mandate of the PCGG will be expanded, but this requires a law po kasi.

4154
04:01:22,960 --> 04:01:27,400
PCGG Chairperson: Because presently po, our mandate is limited.

4155
04:01:28,080 --> 04:01:31,640
PCGG Chairperson: It's limited to a few individuals only.

4156
04:01:32,620 --> 04:01:41,840
PCGG Chairperson: And so we would like to expand sana yung mandate ng PCGG to include all public officials.

4157
04:01:43,600 --> 04:01:44,980
PCGG Chairperson: Right now po,

4158
04:01:45,440 --> 04:01:49,780
PCGG Chairperson: Mandate namin is to file civil forfeiture cases.

4159
04:01:50,360 --> 04:01:58,680
PCGG Chairperson: So as far as corruption is concerned, that is the template that has been used by the PCGG for the past 40 years.

4160
04:01:58,680 --> 04:02:05,020
PCGG Chairperson: And we were able to recover more than 300 billion only through civil forfeiture.

4161
04:02:05,700 --> 04:02:10,340
PCGG Chairperson: Wala po kaming naipakulong, pero we were able to recover that much.

4162
04:02:10,900 --> 04:02:14,360
PCGG Chairperson: And so gusto po sana namin ma-expand yung mandate.

4163
04:02:14,360 --> 04:02:19,000
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Perhaps we can now give way to a new mandate.

4164
04:02:19,280 --> 04:02:21,400
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I understand there's already a bill for that.

4165
04:02:21,660 --> 04:02:22,140
PCGG Chairperson: Yes po.

4166
04:02:22,320 --> 04:02:23,660
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: So I will be a co-author.

4167
04:02:24,420 --> 04:02:24,820
PCGG Chairperson: Yes po.

4168
04:02:24,820 --> 04:02:30,380
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: For that, so that you will be able to expand your powers.

4169
04:02:30,660 --> 04:02:34,800
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: With that, Mr. Chairman, I thank you for being lenient with me.

4170
04:02:34,800 --> 04:02:40,720
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: I congratulate Secretary Vida for an outstanding performance as Secretary of Justice.

4171
04:02:41,360 --> 04:02:43,720
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: And all of our attached agencies.

4172
04:02:43,720 --> 04:02:46,580
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Again, you have our support here in Congress.

4173
04:02:46,580 --> 04:02:54,120
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: For after all, justice is an important component of a democracy and development of our nation.

4174
04:02:54,420 --> 04:02:57,620
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for your leniency in my time.

4175
04:02:57,700 --> 04:02:58,000
Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez: Thank you.

4176
04:02:58,319 --> 04:02:59,349
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Kong Rufus.

4177
04:02:59,359 --> 04:03:10,750
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you for emphasizing the needs of the DOJ and its attached agencies

4178
04:03:10,760 --> 04:03:16,870
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: para po mas maganda pa po yung operations na magawa po nila.

4179
04:03:16,880 --> 04:03:17,910
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the minority.

4180
04:03:17,920 --> 04:03:22,990
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Egay Erice.

4181
04:03:23,000 --> 04:03:24,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

4182
04:03:24,439 --> 04:03:29,510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Good afternoon, Secretary Vida and the DOJ family.

4183
04:03:29,520 --> 04:03:36,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: We in the minority strongly supports the promises of Congressman Rufus.

4184
04:03:36,199 --> 04:03:46,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And I think we can assure fiscal space by reducing the appropriations of the House of Representatives.

4185
04:03:46,479 --> 04:03:54,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Anyway.

4186
04:03:54,560 --> 04:03:58,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ang first question ko po, Secretary, para po sa ating immigration.

4187
04:03:58,560 --> 04:04:04,030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And this is about the CAIS, the Civil Aviation Immigration Security Services Project.

4188
04:04:04,040 --> 04:04:04,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, Your Honor.

4189
04:04:04,920 --> 04:04:10,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I would like to maybe appraise of what's the status of the project na.

4190
04:04:10,640 --> 04:04:14,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The current status, Your Honor, po, it is under contract review.

4191
04:04:14,680 --> 04:04:22,950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And the final screening will be made by the Department of Finance, the OSG, and the PPP Center, po, Your Honor.

4192
04:04:22,960 --> 04:04:24,710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But the contract was already signed?

4193
04:04:24,720 --> 04:04:28,189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No contract has been signed, Your Honor.

4194
04:04:28,199 --> 04:04:38,710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So can you just brief us on what's in particular is the contract?

4195
04:04:38,720 --> 04:04:45,670
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: This is a build, train, maintain, transfer modality?

4196
04:04:45,680 --> 04:04:47,389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor.

4197
04:04:47,399 --> 04:04:52,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Build, train, maintain, and transfer modality, it is a public-private partnership proposed

4198
04:04:52,640 --> 04:04:58,950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: by SIGRIPORT and delivers an integrated aviation and border security platform.

4199
04:04:58,960 --> 04:05:02,309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Combining biometrics, merong advanced analytics.

4200
04:05:02,319 --> 04:05:08,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: When you say, Your Honor, advanced analytics, kahit po yung behavior ng isang tao at the

4201
04:05:08,239 --> 04:05:17,550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: point wherein kinukuha yung information regarding him, any nervous stick, any facial contortion

4202
04:05:17,560 --> 04:05:24,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: can be read by the system to determine kung high risk po siya at malaking probability

4203
04:05:24,600 --> 04:05:28,950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that he will cause havoc when entering the Philippines.

4204
04:05:28,960 --> 04:05:36,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And it also integrates passenger information systems with the ultimate objective of enhancing

4205
04:05:36,439 --> 04:05:38,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: national security and immigration control.

4206
04:05:39,000 --> 04:05:47,070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The features of this program include access to billions of facial images.

4207
04:05:47,080 --> 04:05:53,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung categorization po and then risk scoring, meaning kaya po na nabanggit ko kanina, kung

4208
04:05:54,000 --> 04:06:00,389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: high risk po yung pasahero na lagi intend na pumasok ng Pilipinas, then ma-analyze po

4209
04:06:00,399 --> 04:06:05,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: at mabibigyan po ng proper tool ang aming immigration officer to decide whether or not

4210
04:06:05,920 --> 04:06:08,110
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to allow this person to enter.

4211
04:06:08,120 --> 04:06:13,870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong biographic comparison against criminal and sanctions databases, meaning

4212
04:06:13,880 --> 04:06:17,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang interpol po, may access po tayo dyan sa kanilang...

4213
04:06:17,239 --> 04:06:24,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: system, not only sa Central, but all 194 countries sa konektado po sa Interpol.

4214
04:06:24,680 --> 04:06:32,149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meron din pong deception detection analytics based on mga nabanggit ko po, involuntary

4215
04:06:32,159 --> 04:06:33,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and physical cues.

4216
04:06:34,000 --> 04:06:41,110
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And nandyan din po ang AI-assisted open source intelligence, meaning kung nagkataon po na

4217
04:06:41,120 --> 04:06:47,070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: let's say 15, 20 years ago, on Facebook, meron po kayong nasabi, which would

4218
04:06:47,080 --> 04:06:54,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: be the system would read as amounting to or gearing towards terrorism.

4219
04:06:54,239 --> 04:06:56,349
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Mababasa rin po yan, Your Honor.

4220
04:06:56,359 --> 04:07:04,750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang target po nito, Your Honor, is to increase, expand the borders, meaning hindi na lang po

4221
04:07:04,760 --> 04:07:09,030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: border natin o physical border po ng Pilipinas ang babantayan.

4222
04:07:09,040 --> 04:07:11,110
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Na-expand po natin yan pagating sa ibang bansa.

4223
04:07:11,120 --> 04:07:17,550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ngayon po, kung ang isang pasahero nagsusubok pumunta ng Pilipinas, based po sa...

4224
04:07:17,560 --> 04:07:23,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pagkuhan niya ng ticket, pagkuhan niya ng kanyang passenger reference number, mariread

4225
04:07:23,800 --> 04:07:32,870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po ito, and then even before boarding ng aeroplano, kung sa tingin po ng sistema na hindi po siya

4226
04:07:32,880 --> 04:07:39,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: dapat sumakay o pumasok ng Pilipinas, ibabato po yung information na po na yun in real time

4227
04:07:39,640 --> 04:07:43,109
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa immigration officers po natin dito sa Pilipinas.

4228
04:07:43,119 --> 04:07:45,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, that would also...

4229
04:07:46,000 --> 04:07:51,550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: down to the benefit of the airlines, kasi hindi na po sila gagastos para pabalikin pa po ang isang tao

4230
04:07:51,560 --> 04:07:54,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na hindi naman po pa papasukin dito sa ating bansa.

4231
04:07:54,439 --> 04:07:56,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, yan po ang features po.

4232
04:07:56,800 --> 04:08:03,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And then, Your Honor, we also have to take into account that the system being resorted to,

4233
04:08:03,800 --> 04:08:13,710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: or systems being resorted to, schemes, if I may call it that, resorted to by terrorists, criminals, are ever evolving.

4234
04:08:13,720 --> 04:08:14,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, itong sistema po na ito...

4235
04:08:15,000 --> 04:08:23,950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: aims to combat, or help, or be a tool to help our immigration officers in combating human trafficking,

4236
04:08:23,960 --> 04:08:30,830
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: smuggling, drug and weapon smuggling, terrorism, money laundering, tax evasion, and organized crime.

4237
04:08:30,840 --> 04:08:32,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po. Yan po yung sistema, Your Honor.

4238
04:08:32,920 --> 04:08:36,750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano na-propose po yung Secure Reports Limited?

4239
04:08:36,760 --> 04:08:38,309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct, Your Honor. Secure Reports Limited.

4240
04:08:38,319 --> 04:08:40,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sino pong mayari nito? Porin or Pilipino?

4241
04:08:41,000 --> 04:08:45,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ano po? Ang Secure Report po is a company incorporated in the United States.

4242
04:08:45,239 --> 04:08:50,510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's way back in 2000. Hindi po Philippine Corporation po yan.

4243
04:08:50,520 --> 04:08:53,149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They gave an unsolicited proposal.

4244
04:08:53,159 --> 04:09:01,269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Two years in the making na po, Your Honor, ang pag-review po ng iba't-iba ahensya ng gobyerno dito sa proposal po nila.

4245
04:09:01,279 --> 04:09:10,510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It went through the PPP Center, it went to the DOJ, it went through the Bureau of Immigration.

4246
04:09:10,520 --> 04:09:12,149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, dalawang taon na po, Your Honor, na...

4247
04:09:12,159 --> 04:09:14,070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, but...

4248
04:09:14,080 --> 04:09:15,309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Do you mean that...

4249
04:09:15,319 --> 04:09:20,590
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Your Honor, a sovereign company will have an access to the data of...

4250
04:09:20,600 --> 04:09:27,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, a sovereign function at control po dito sa datos po na ito is retained by the Philippine government.

4251
04:09:27,920 --> 04:09:31,510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But how about the servers?

4252
04:09:31,520 --> 04:09:33,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tayo po may control dyan, Your Honor.

4253
04:09:33,600 --> 04:09:37,710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They only provide the tools and teach our people how to operate those.

4254
04:09:37,720 --> 04:09:40,189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But ultimately, ang control po...

4255
04:09:40,199 --> 04:09:44,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Initially, they will be accessing these datas.

4256
04:09:44,159 --> 04:09:45,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

4257
04:09:45,239 --> 04:09:47,269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will help us provide...

4258
04:09:47,279 --> 04:09:48,149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will help provide the tools...

4259
04:09:48,159 --> 04:09:49,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Initially.

4260
04:09:49,439 --> 04:09:52,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes or no?

4261
04:09:52,199 --> 04:09:55,510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as I know, Your Honor, no.

4262
04:09:55,520 --> 04:09:58,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will not have control over the data.

4263
04:09:58,439 --> 04:09:59,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will have no control...

4264
04:09:59,239 --> 04:10:01,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: They will have no control over the data, Your Honor.

4265
04:10:01,680 --> 04:10:01,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Okay.

4266
04:10:02,000 --> 04:10:02,870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Control is maintained by us.

4267
04:10:02,880 --> 04:10:08,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Because I filed a resolution to investigate this particular contract.

4268
04:10:08,439 --> 04:10:08,710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4269
04:10:08,720 --> 04:10:09,510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Aside from the...

4270
04:10:09,520 --> 04:10:10,269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

4271
04:10:10,279 --> 04:10:11,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Aside from the...

4272
04:10:11,840 --> 04:10:16,229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi po, diba, yung tinanggal nga ng gobyerno, yung tinatanggal ngayon ng gobyerno, yung...

4273
04:10:16,239 --> 04:10:16,510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4274
04:10:16,520 --> 04:10:16,870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4275
04:10:16,880 --> 04:10:29,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, parang ano, parang yung policy decision ng presidente ay tanggalan ng bawasan yung gastos ng mga pasahero.

4276
04:10:29,840 --> 04:10:31,109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pero ito dadagdagan.

4277
04:10:31,119 --> 04:10:31,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Opo, Your Honor.

4278
04:10:31,640 --> 04:10:34,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, ito po kasi, hindi po ito form ng tax, Your Honor.

4279
04:10:34,600 --> 04:10:36,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po ay service fee.

4280
04:10:36,600 --> 04:10:37,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, hindi naman...

4281
04:10:37,800 --> 04:10:39,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes, but that's the function of government.

4282
04:10:39,640 --> 04:10:44,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: That's why we are collecting taxes, diba, from our people to provide services.

4283
04:10:44,920 --> 04:10:46,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And that's...

4284
04:10:46,640 --> 04:10:48,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Immigration service yan, yung...

4285
04:10:48,640 --> 04:10:50,030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor, we...

4286
04:10:50,040 --> 04:10:51,229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Cyber security.

4287
04:10:51,239 --> 04:10:51,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, po.

4288
04:10:51,439 --> 04:10:57,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, ang concern ko po dito, parang magkakontra yung policy.

4289
04:10:57,640 --> 04:11:04,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: In fact, dito po sa travel tax, exempted na yung mga OFWs.

4290
04:11:04,840 --> 04:11:07,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pero dito, kasama.

4291
04:11:07,159 --> 04:11:14,349
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So, yung mga OFWs natin na nagdadala ng dolyar dito sa ating bansa, dadagdagan pa natin ng gastos.

4292
04:11:14,359 --> 04:11:21,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Samantalang, yung revenue na nare-raise natin sa kanila, eh, pwede nating gastosin for this purpose.

4293
04:11:21,560 --> 04:11:25,149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We understand, Your Honor, and we fully agree po with your position.

4294
04:11:25,159 --> 04:11:27,070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As I've stated, this is a secure...

4295
04:11:27,080 --> 04:11:27,469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ano po?

4296
04:11:27,479 --> 04:11:29,469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Service fee po ito, Your Honor.

4297
04:11:29,479 --> 04:11:37,030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Meaning, hindi po namin pwede ipasa sa madlang bayan, taong bayan, sa ordinary taxpayer po, ang pag-gastos po dito.

4298
04:11:37,040 --> 04:11:40,389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang gagastos po dito ay ang mga taong nagka-travel.

4299
04:11:40,399 --> 04:11:40,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po lahat ng...

4300
04:11:40,800 --> 04:11:42,389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pag-Ws.

4301
04:11:42,399 --> 04:11:44,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, admittedly po, sa kanila po, ang mga...

4302
04:11:44,439 --> 04:11:46,510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang mga pung-ticket, isasama po ang gastosin dito.

4303
04:11:46,520 --> 04:11:47,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaya nga, kaya nga.

4304
04:11:47,840 --> 04:11:49,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, but if I may continue, Your Honor.

4305
04:11:49,640 --> 04:11:55,550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, ang gastosin po pagdating sa ticket, hindi po sinasagot po yan ng OFWs.

4306
04:11:55,560 --> 04:11:57,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sagot po yan ng mga employers nila.

4307
04:11:57,680 --> 04:12:04,109
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang employers po, under an executive order, and under various agreements with other countries,

4308
04:12:04,119 --> 04:12:11,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ang sumasagot po yan ng gastosin po sa pamasahe, at including na po, kung sakali ma-approvean po ito,

4309
04:12:11,920 --> 04:12:14,309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung service fee po na ito, ay sasagotin ng...

4310
04:12:14,319 --> 04:12:22,070
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So hindi OFWs po natin ang sasagot.

4311
04:12:22,080 --> 04:12:25,309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ito po yung mga kumpanyang kukuha po sa kanila ang sasagot dito.

4312
04:12:25,319 --> 04:12:31,030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And if I may, Your Honor, ito pong sistema po na ito, ginagamit na po yan worldwide.

4313
04:12:31,040 --> 04:12:37,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi lang po natin siguro napapansin, pero ang ibang bansa po, nilalagay po yan, nakasama ng gastosin sa mga ticket po.

4314
04:12:37,239 --> 04:12:42,950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As I've stated earlier, Your Honor, ang Australia po, charges about 2,600...

4315
04:12:42,960 --> 04:12:44,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sir, you said Hong Kong is doing this.

4316
04:12:44,439 --> 04:12:45,750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4317
04:12:45,760 --> 04:12:51,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: I've been traveling to Hong Kong for quite some time, pero wala akong nakikita ng gano'n.

4318
04:12:51,199 --> 04:12:54,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Baka po sa breakdown, makikita po natin, Your Honor.

4319
04:12:54,600 --> 04:13:05,030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yan po, Hong Kong charges 1,800, Japan charges 1,200, Singapore charges 2,400, Australia charges 2,600.

4320
04:13:05,040 --> 04:13:10,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We charge 240 pesos. So ganyan po yung comparison po, Your Honor.

4321
04:13:10,640 --> 04:13:15,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: The total project cost is 10,740,000.

4322
04:13:15,479 --> 04:13:19,389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, for the first five years po yan, 10.7 billion, Your Honor.

4323
04:13:19,399 --> 04:13:26,269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But ang security report po promised a technology maintenance upgrade po.

4324
04:13:26,279 --> 04:13:33,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Upgrade not only of the systems, but also of the training for people every four years over the 20-year period.

4325
04:13:33,640 --> 04:13:34,710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasama po dito sa 10 billion?

4326
04:13:34,720 --> 04:13:35,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po, Your Honor.

4327
04:13:35,680 --> 04:13:37,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So another increase?

4328
04:13:37,159 --> 04:13:38,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po, Your Honor.

4329
04:13:38,439 --> 04:13:44,750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang commitment po nila is during the lifetime of the...

4330
04:13:44,760 --> 04:13:51,189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The agreement sa 20 years po na yan, ganyan lang po naka napag-usapan po namin na charges nila.

4331
04:13:51,199 --> 04:13:53,389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ano po ang capex nila for the whole project?

4332
04:13:53,399 --> 04:14:02,870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For the whole project po, over the 20-year period, so 10.7 initially, additional, I think, 52.5 billion over the 20-year period po.

4333
04:14:02,880 --> 04:14:03,590
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So 62 point...

4334
04:14:03,600 --> 04:14:07,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: It is in the proposed contract?

4335
04:14:07,479 --> 04:14:14,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It is. Everything is under the proposed contract and under review by all pertinent government agencies.

4336
04:14:14,239 --> 04:14:21,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: The total estimated collection is about 202 billion.

4337
04:14:21,199 --> 04:14:22,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Probably, Your Honor.

4338
04:14:22,439 --> 04:14:25,950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And the share of the private corporation is 192 billion.

4339
04:14:25,960 --> 04:14:34,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ang breakdown po, if I may, Your Honor, is per kada apat na dolyar po, 380 goes to the proponent, 20 cents goes to the Philippine government.

4340
04:14:34,920 --> 04:14:35,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 5%.

4341
04:14:35,479 --> 04:14:38,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 5% share.

4342
04:14:38,199 --> 04:14:38,870
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

4343
04:14:38,880 --> 04:14:40,670
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So this is about 10 billion.

4344
04:14:40,680 --> 04:14:41,269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tama po, 5%.

4345
04:14:41,279 --> 04:14:44,269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 95% of the collections will go to the private.

4346
04:14:44,279 --> 04:14:45,710
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: A provider.

4347
04:14:45,720 --> 04:14:46,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

4348
04:14:46,439 --> 04:14:49,229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And only 5%.

4349
04:14:49,239 --> 04:14:50,269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: To the government.

4350
04:14:50,279 --> 04:14:54,030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sir, why are you still giving this to the government?

4351
04:14:54,040 --> 04:14:54,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sorry, sir.

4352
04:14:54,239 --> 04:14:55,189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sorry, Your Honor.

4353
04:14:55,199 --> 04:14:57,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: This is your service, immigration, to our people.

4354
04:14:57,560 --> 04:14:58,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Why are you still giving this to the government?

4355
04:14:58,840 --> 04:15:04,349
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It will fund the projects of the Bureau of Immigration.

4356
04:15:04,359 --> 04:15:06,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And yes, sir.

4357
04:15:06,680 --> 04:15:10,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Immigration, projects of immigration for this?

4358
04:15:10,560 --> 04:15:13,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Will also return to the benefit of the government, Your Honor.

4359
04:15:13,800 --> 04:15:19,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Why would you fund another project out of this particular project?

4360
04:15:19,479 --> 04:15:22,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But this will go to the National Treasury, Your Honor.

4361
04:15:22,640 --> 04:15:23,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: That's it.

4362
04:15:23,439 --> 04:15:27,309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And then, since we are the agency...

4363
04:15:27,319 --> 04:15:30,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So this is still a business of the government?

4364
04:15:30,159 --> 04:15:32,269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: There's a profit.

4365
04:15:32,279 --> 04:15:35,750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The service is what the business does.

4366
04:15:35,760 --> 04:15:36,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No, Your Honor.

4367
04:15:37,000 --> 04:15:38,149
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We are charging...

4368
04:15:38,159 --> 04:15:40,309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: It's 5% profit.

4369
04:15:40,319 --> 04:15:41,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's not...

4370
04:15:41,800 --> 04:15:43,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It's the share between...

4371
04:15:43,439 --> 04:15:46,189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Private proponent and the government, Your Honor.

4372
04:15:46,199 --> 04:15:49,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Is this a part of the Swiss Challenge?

4373
04:15:49,199 --> 04:15:50,309
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4374
04:15:50,319 --> 04:15:53,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: There was a comparative challenge, which is the Swiss Challenge, which...

4375
04:15:53,600 --> 04:15:58,229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Who gave the comparative challenge?

4376
04:15:58,239 --> 04:16:00,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We sent out notices, Your Honor.

4377
04:16:01,000 --> 04:16:02,030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: But no one came?

4378
04:16:02,040 --> 04:16:03,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No one challenged, Your Honor.

4379
04:16:03,800 --> 04:16:05,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Usually, that's the case.

4380
04:16:05,479 --> 04:16:06,510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Usually, that's the case.

4381
04:16:06,520 --> 04:16:13,389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Anyway, can we give a copy before the plenary of the proposed contract?

4382
04:16:13,399 --> 04:16:13,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4383
04:16:13,640 --> 04:16:31,070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And the terms of reference and the proposal of the company and the resolution of your PBAC, the bidding committee.

4384
04:16:31,080 --> 04:16:31,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4385
04:16:31,680 --> 04:16:34,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We will provide all the necessary documents to you.

4386
04:16:34,920 --> 04:16:36,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Before the plenary?

4387
04:16:37,000 --> 04:16:37,550
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4388
04:16:37,560 --> 04:16:42,269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From the PPP, DOJ, Bureau of Immigration.

4389
04:16:42,279 --> 04:16:42,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: All of that.

4390
04:16:43,000 --> 04:16:47,950
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, we will provide it to you as requested, Your Honor.

4391
04:16:47,960 --> 04:16:50,710
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Another topic.

4392
04:16:50,720 --> 04:16:51,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Last question.

4393
04:16:51,560 --> 04:16:52,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: My last question.

4394
04:16:52,479 --> 04:16:53,950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you.

4395
04:16:53,960 --> 04:16:55,389
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Still on immigration.

4396
04:16:55,399 --> 04:16:55,670
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4397
04:16:55,680 --> 04:16:57,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: There are a lot of issues with you.

4398
04:16:57,479 --> 04:16:59,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Joseph C. has been in jail for a year.

4399
04:16:59,920 --> 04:17:01,189
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4400
04:17:01,199 --> 04:17:03,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What is the case of Joseph C.?

4401
04:17:03,199 --> 04:17:08,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Joseph C., Your Honor, is a fake Filipino, Your Honor.

4402
04:17:08,600 --> 04:17:09,349
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes.

4403
04:17:09,359 --> 04:17:12,070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe around 100,000 here in the Philippines.

4404
04:17:12,080 --> 04:17:14,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4405
04:17:14,239 --> 04:17:15,109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe around 100,000 here in the Philippines.

4406
04:17:15,119 --> 04:17:15,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 100,000.

4407
04:17:15,840 --> 04:17:20,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: If you arrest all the big businessmen, our economy will collapse.

4408
04:17:21,000 --> 04:17:31,429
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, based on intelligence information that we gathered, Joseph C. is attending the communist party meetings in China.

4409
04:17:31,439 --> 04:17:38,070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Well, I asked during the budget hearing last year, I asked Secretary Año kung spy si Joseph C.

4410
04:17:38,080 --> 04:17:43,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sabi niya sa akin, negosyante lang 'yan. Wala kaming information.

4411
04:17:43,640 --> 04:17:46,469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, ang pinaglalaban din po namin...

4412
04:17:46,479 --> 04:17:48,750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What is your basis for saying that?

4413
04:17:48,760 --> 04:17:52,469
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, intelligence information from government agencies.

4414
04:17:52,479 --> 04:17:52,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From?

4415
04:17:52,920 --> 04:17:53,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From what government agency?

4416
04:17:53,560 --> 04:17:54,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: From?

4417
04:17:54,920 --> 04:17:55,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What government agency?

4418
04:17:56,000 --> 04:17:59,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Because I talked to Secretary Año, tinanong ko.

4419
04:17:59,199 --> 04:18:00,790
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kilala ko kasi, matagal na si...

4420
04:18:00,800 --> 04:18:03,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Siguro mga 15 years ko nang kilala si Joseph C.

4421
04:18:03,560 --> 04:18:04,269
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4422
04:18:04,279 --> 04:18:07,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So kilala ko naman na negosyante.

4423
04:18:07,159 --> 04:18:12,950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Nagbabayad naman ng buwis dito sa Pilipinas.

4424
04:18:12,960 --> 04:18:17,750
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The information I can relate to you after this meeting, Your Honor.

4425
04:18:17,760 --> 04:18:19,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: What agency?

4426
04:18:19,439 --> 04:18:21,910
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I can relate it to you, Your Honor.

4427
04:18:21,920 --> 04:18:25,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam ko lang na agency na nagtatanong diyan, Senate, eh.

4428
04:18:25,159 --> 04:18:28,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Hindi po, Your Honor. Hindi po Senate.

4429
04:18:28,239 --> 04:18:33,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But ang amin naman pong, Your Honor, pinaglalaban din pagdating naman po sa fake Filipinos

4430
04:18:33,800 --> 04:18:42,990
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: is 'yung sistema natin ng pag-issue ng mga documents na pinanghahawakan po natin bilang Pilipino,

4431
04:18:43,000 --> 04:18:48,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: like 'yung pasaporte, 'yung mga birth certificates na nababayaran na po, Your Honor.

4432
04:18:48,640 --> 04:18:54,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam niyo po, I've been talking to the Filipino-Chinese Chamber of Commerce, the officers.

4433
04:18:55,000 --> 04:19:00,070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: In fact, I filed a proposal to amend the immigration law.

4434
04:19:00,080 --> 04:19:07,510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kasi po mahigit, baka 200,000 'yung mga illegal aliens dito,

4435
04:19:07,520 --> 04:19:09,070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: pero mostly Chinese.

4436
04:19:09,080 --> 04:19:12,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Pumapasok po sila dito using fake documents,

4437
04:19:12,439 --> 04:19:14,229
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: marriage certificates, birth certificates.

4438
04:19:14,239 --> 04:19:16,870
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: So nagpo-provide din 'yung mga agencies natin.

4439
04:19:16,880 --> 04:19:17,590
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4440
04:19:17,600 --> 04:19:20,870
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: They facilitate for certain fees.

4441
04:19:20,880 --> 04:19:25,469
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At ang gusto nila talaga, kung at least mga seven, ten years na sila dito,

4442
04:19:25,479 --> 04:19:29,030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: wala naman silang criminal record, wala naman silang...

4443
04:19:29,040 --> 04:19:31,590
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: and they're willing to pay ten million.

4444
04:19:31,600 --> 04:19:32,389
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, sir.

4445
04:19:32,399 --> 04:19:36,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: And that will amount to billions of revenue,

4446
04:19:36,840 --> 04:19:42,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: kaysa daw po tuwing Pasko, dinadaanan sila ng mga immigration agents diyan sa Binondo

4447
04:19:42,640 --> 04:19:44,750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at hinihingan sila.

4448
04:19:44,760 --> 04:19:50,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Eh mag-one-time legitimize na nila 'yung kanilang status.

4449
04:19:51,000 --> 04:19:57,030
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam niyo, ang masama dito, may pinag-interesan 'yung property nung isang Chinese,

4450
04:19:57,040 --> 04:19:59,109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: o, huhulihin.

4451
04:19:59,119 --> 04:20:00,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 'Di ba? Ganoon ang mangyayari.

4452
04:20:01,000 --> 04:20:04,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Ganoon ang mangyayari.

4453
04:20:04,159 --> 04:20:06,269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi natin i-legitimize?

4454
04:20:06,279 --> 04:20:11,070
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: 'Yung ngang ibang mga Chinese, 'yung mga taipans dito, mga tycoons,

4455
04:20:11,080 --> 04:20:12,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: they are more Filipino than

4456
04:20:12,920 --> 04:20:14,790
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: many of us

4457
04:20:14,800 --> 04:20:19,189
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: in terms of contributing to the national economy.

4458
04:20:19,199 --> 04:20:20,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Bakit hindi natin ayusin ito?

4459
04:20:20,640 --> 04:20:21,510
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4460
04:20:21,520 --> 04:20:23,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe Secretary Bida can...

4461
04:20:23,920 --> 04:20:26,269
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

4462
04:20:26,279 --> 04:20:27,309
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

4463
04:20:27,319 --> 04:20:32,149
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Actually, we have a pending for the amendment of the Immigration Act.

4464
04:20:32,159 --> 04:20:36,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that their additional powers can enter here.

4465
04:20:36,439 --> 04:20:37,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Additional powers to address this.

4466
04:20:37,840 --> 04:20:42,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It also reached us that we have one...

4467
04:20:42,439 --> 04:20:51,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: It also reached us that we have one municipality that manufactures birth certificates, right?

4468
04:20:51,119 --> 04:20:51,550
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

4469
04:20:51,560 --> 04:20:52,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: In Mineralo.

4470
04:20:52,119 --> 04:20:52,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

4471
04:20:52,840 --> 04:20:56,070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: These are the things that, when we see it,

4472
04:20:56,080 --> 04:20:59,269
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for moving forward, I completely agree with you,

4473
04:20:59,279 --> 04:21:08,389
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: so that there won't be opportunities for enterprising so-called public servants.

4474
04:21:08,399 --> 04:21:09,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes.

4475
04:21:09,760 --> 04:21:12,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because we should send a message that...

4476
04:21:12,520 --> 04:21:17,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: that there should be a cut-clear criteria for us to look at this,

4477
04:21:18,000 --> 04:21:19,710
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: whether you're qualified or not.

4478
04:21:19,720 --> 04:21:21,109
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Then, you enter here.

4479
04:21:21,119 --> 04:21:23,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: When you enter, then we're able.

4480
04:21:23,760 --> 04:21:27,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, a consequential benefit would be collection of the proper fees.

4481
04:21:28,000 --> 04:21:30,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Alam niyo, sa Caloocan, motorcycle...

4482
04:21:30,560 --> 04:21:36,269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Sa district ko po, Grace Park, Motorcycle Capital of Luzon.

4483
04:21:36,279 --> 04:21:40,830
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At karamihan po ng mga Chinese businessman doon, 'yung mga maliliit na businessman,

4484
04:21:40,840 --> 04:21:42,790
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: nagtitinda ng motor parts.

4485
04:21:42,800 --> 04:21:48,149
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Matagal na po sila diyan, pero talagang illegal po 'yung entry nila.

4486
04:21:48,159 --> 04:21:51,550
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Mga fake documents.

4487
04:21:51,560 --> 04:21:55,510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At dahil po dito sa nangyayaring ito, marami pong umaalis, eh.

4488
04:21:55,520 --> 04:21:55,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Umaalis na.

4489
04:21:55,920 --> 04:22:00,750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: May mga asawa po 'yan na Pilipina

4490
04:22:00,760 --> 04:22:03,109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na minsan naiiwan na nila.

4491
04:22:03,119 --> 04:22:09,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At kung aalis po lahat 'yung mga illegals doon sa lugar namin,

4492
04:22:09,640 --> 04:22:12,269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: babagsak talaga 'yung ekonomiya ng lugar namin.

4493
04:22:12,279 --> 04:22:18,990
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Kaya nga po siguro, kung ayos naman, may NBI clearance,

4494
04:22:19,000 --> 04:22:21,750
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mayroong national security clearance,

4495
04:22:21,760 --> 04:22:23,950
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: wala naman pong mga kaso,

4496
04:22:23,960 --> 04:22:26,109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: at matagal na sila dito,

4497
04:22:26,119 --> 04:22:29,870
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: eh baka puwede na nating i-legitimize 'yung kanilang stay.

4498
04:22:29,880 --> 04:22:33,670
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Katulad din naman 'yan ng mga Pilipino sa America,

4499
04:22:33,680 --> 04:22:37,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: mga TNT na nale-legitimize.

4500
04:22:37,439 --> 04:22:42,269
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: At hindi naman natin gawin 'yan dito sa mga kapitbahay natin,

4501
04:22:42,279 --> 04:22:45,309
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: na Filipino-Chinese.

4502
04:22:45,319 --> 04:22:47,429
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Maybe the DOJ can work on that.

4503
04:22:47,439 --> 04:22:49,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission, Your Honor,

4504
04:22:49,760 --> 04:22:53,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we will properly come up with a roadmap on this.

4505
04:22:53,439 --> 04:22:55,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because so that it won't go back and forth.

4506
04:22:55,800 --> 04:22:58,750
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because just like what I've mentioned,

4507
04:22:58,760 --> 04:22:59,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we don't want to...

4508
04:22:59,920 --> 04:23:01,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Because we have a lot of work to do.

4509
04:23:01,439 --> 04:23:03,349
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I want it to be over.

4510
04:23:03,359 --> 04:23:05,469
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that this problem will be over.

4511
04:23:05,479 --> 04:23:08,070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: With your permission, with permission of everyone,

4512
04:23:08,080 --> 04:23:10,870
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we will duly consult you.

4513
04:23:10,880 --> 04:23:11,950
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course, we need your...

4514
04:23:11,960 --> 04:23:14,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need your learnings on the ground.

4515
04:23:14,439 --> 04:23:15,590
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We need your know-how.

4516
04:23:15,600 --> 04:23:18,429
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: You need to be more aware of the movements of those...

4517
04:23:18,439 --> 04:23:20,309
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: You said it, right?

4518
04:23:20,319 --> 04:23:21,710
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Those who have become friends.

4519
04:23:21,720 --> 04:23:24,790
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: We're happy with the development of our economy.

4520
04:23:24,800 --> 04:23:27,070
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So I'll be tasking...

4521
04:23:27,080 --> 04:23:28,630
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes. Thank you.

4522
04:23:28,640 --> 04:23:29,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Together with the BI,

4523
04:23:30,000 --> 04:23:32,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: once and for all, of course,

4524
04:23:32,840 --> 04:23:34,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: we need the former commissioner,

4525
04:23:34,520 --> 04:23:35,630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: the wisdom of the former commissioner.

4526
04:23:35,640 --> 04:23:36,630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I consulted also...

4527
04:23:36,640 --> 04:23:38,990
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that we can see.

4528
04:23:39,000 --> 04:23:41,710
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So that it won't go back and forth.

4529
04:23:41,720 --> 04:23:45,630
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: And we can raise a lot of revenue

4530
04:23:45,640 --> 04:23:48,830
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: from these people.

4531
04:23:48,840 --> 04:23:49,910
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yes. Everything, Your Honor,

4532
04:23:49,920 --> 04:23:51,510
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: within the legal framework.

4533
04:23:51,520 --> 04:23:51,910
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Yes, sir.

4534
04:23:51,920 --> 04:23:52,109
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you.

4535
04:23:52,119 --> 04:23:53,510
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Secretary.

4536
04:23:53,520 --> 04:23:56,040
Rep. Edgar R. Erice: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

4537
04:23:56,439 --> 04:23:56,939
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you very much. So iyon.

4538
04:23:57,660 --> 04:23:58,400
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Cong. Egay Erice.

4539
04:23:59,741 --> 04:24:02,082
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the majority:

4540
04:24:02,503 --> 04:24:04,724
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Kaloy Bolilia.

4541
04:24:06,385 --> 04:24:07,185
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Good afternoon.

4542
04:24:07,486 --> 04:24:08,926
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

4543
04:24:08,926 --> 04:24:11,148
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: And good afternoon,

4544
04:24:11,268 --> 04:24:12,068
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: my esteemed colleagues,

4545
04:24:12,308 --> 04:24:14,610
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and, of course, the all other guests,

4546
04:24:15,550 --> 04:24:17,892
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the heads of the attached agencies

4547
04:24:17,892 --> 04:24:20,133
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of the Department of Justice.

4548
04:24:20,573 --> 04:24:21,794
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Good afternoon, Secretary.

4549
04:24:23,595 --> 04:24:26,137
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Following the line of questioning

4550
04:24:26,137 --> 04:24:28,678
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of my colleague,

4551
04:24:29,118 --> 04:24:30,279
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kong Egay Erice.

4552
04:24:30,619 --> 04:24:31,500
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I will continue that

4553
04:24:31,500 --> 04:24:34,361
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: in the Bureau of Immigration.

4554
04:24:35,162 --> 04:24:35,562
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Commissioner.

4555
04:24:35,982 --> 04:24:36,783
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, sir.

4556
04:24:36,783 --> 04:24:38,364
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon, sir.

4557
04:24:39,324 --> 04:24:41,746
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: May POGO pa ba dito sa Pilipinas?

4558
04:24:42,326 --> 04:24:43,327
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung pong

4559
04:24:43,327 --> 04:24:44,367
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: malalaking grupo

4560
04:24:44,367 --> 04:24:46,569
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng POGO, nabaklas na

4561
04:24:46,569 --> 04:24:49,330
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po iyon, Your Honor.

4562
04:24:49,791 --> 04:24:51,512
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As far as we know,

4563
04:24:51,652 --> 04:24:54,313
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: wala na pong malalaking grupo. Ngayon

4564
04:24:54,874 --> 04:24:56,254
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: po, pagdating sa mga

4565
04:24:56,254 --> 04:24:58,015
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: maliliit na splinter groups,

4566
04:24:58,135 --> 04:24:59,616
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: there's a probability, Your Honor—there's

4567
04:24:59,696 --> 04:25:00,277
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a possibility—but we

4568
04:25:00,677 --> 04:25:02,918
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: are always going after them once

4569
04:25:02,918 --> 04:25:05,840
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we gather the intelligence information which

4570
04:25:05,840 --> 04:25:07,941
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: would warrant us to

4571
04:25:07,941 --> 04:25:08,742
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: detain them and

4572
04:25:08,742 --> 04:25:10,543
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to deport them accordingly.

4573
04:25:10,843 --> 04:25:12,044
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We do that, Your Honor.

4574
04:25:12,344 --> 04:25:18,467
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mr. Immigration Commissioner, kilala po ba ninyo si Mr. Kim Wong?

4575
04:25:20,989 --> 04:25:22,790
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sino po si Mr. Wong, sir?

4576
04:25:23,791 --> 04:25:32,256
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kasi ho pag naggo-golf ako sa Philippine Navy, pag ang kalaban ko'y mga abogadong naglilingkod din sa

4577
04:25:32,576 --> 04:25:38,679
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: bayan, sabi nila, ‘Aha, magaling ka na mag-golf dahil kaibigan mo siguro si Kim

4578
04:25:38,819 --> 04:25:39,360
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Wong.’ Kaya nagtataka

4579
04:25:39,700 --> 04:25:41,621
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ako. Iyan sa Navy, hindi sa ibang golf courses.

4580
04:25:41,781 --> 04:25:42,181
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, sir.

4581
04:25:42,862 --> 04:25:44,723
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So hindi mo siya kilala, o kilala mo siya?

4582
04:25:45,143 --> 04:25:53,388
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Mr. Wong, I know him from the business community, but we don't talk.

4583
04:25:53,488 --> 04:25:55,469
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Nagkaroon ba ng pagkakataon na magkasama kayo?

4584
04:25:57,150 --> 04:25:59,732
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: No, Your Honor, hindi po kami magkasama.

4585
04:26:00,292 --> 04:26:04,154
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Probably in social functions, but not official.

4586
04:26:04,675 --> 04:26:05,255
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mabuti naman.

4587
04:26:05,255 --> 04:26:12,359
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Are you aware na may POGO pa ring nag-e-exist sa Barangay Multinational?

4588
04:26:12,379 --> 04:26:21,225
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: At this point, Your Honor, I am not aware, but once I get information from you, we will act on it accordingly, Your Honor.

4589
04:26:24,887 --> 04:26:31,771
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I'm quite sure of the presence or existence of POGO in Multinational.

4590
04:26:31,771 --> 04:26:42,077
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: For whatever reason, whoever protects this, it's for you to find out because you have an intelligence fund to address my concern.

4591
04:26:42,897 --> 04:26:43,498
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

4592
04:26:44,098 --> 04:26:55,745
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So ngayon, may decrease sa inyong budget request. Dapat matulungan iyan because we need to strengthen especially

4593
04:26:56,946 --> 04:27:08,913
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: border control. Ano po ang epekto nitong budget sa ating border control, sa ating approach sa

4594
04:27:08,913 --> 04:27:12,015
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: human trafficking issues, at, of

4595
04:27:12,415 --> 04:27:14,176
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: course, sa undesirable aliens na unti-unting pumapasok sa ating bansa?

4596
04:27:14,916 --> 04:27:19,859
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Admittedly, Your Honor, yung decrease po ng budget namin would affect our

4597
04:27:22,461 --> 04:27:30,686
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: operations sa lahat. Ngayon po, pagdating sa ni-request ko po kanina, kung maaari pong sa aming border offices—border control offices—and then sa main office po, i-computerize po.

4598
04:27:30,946 --> 04:27:33,907
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Malaking tulong po iyan sa aming efforts. Ngayon po, pagdating naman po

4599
04:27:34,448 --> 04:27:39,531
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa computerization, iyan din po ang aming habol, and automation iyan

4600
04:27:39,531 --> 04:27:41,552
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: din po ang habol namin. And

4601
04:27:41,552 --> 04:27:49,156
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: then nabanggit po kanina ni Congressman Erice yung tungkol po doon sa aming advance passenger information system. Malaking

4602
04:27:49,497 --> 04:27:56,681
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: magiging tulong po iyon, Your Honor, sa pag-expand po ng ating borders and for us to have a holistic approach,

4603
04:27:57,221 --> 04:28:00,643
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: intelligence-driven approach, pagdating ho sa border control, Your Honor.

4604
04:28:01,624 --> 04:28:05,326
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Maraming salamat doon sa inyong magandang kasagutan.

4605
04:28:05,326 --> 04:28:11,930
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Eh tinignan na ho ako ni Cong. Rufus Rodriguez, ibig sabihin, dahil si former Commissioner Rufus Rodriguez,

4606
04:28:12,530 --> 04:28:15,692
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ibig sabihin huwag na raw ako magtanong, kaya that would be all.

4607
04:28:16,072 --> 04:28:16,973
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you very much, Your Honor.

4608
04:28:17,473 --> 04:28:18,654
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Idol ho ng lahat ho iyan.

4609
04:28:19,054 --> 04:28:20,755
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Again, maraming salamat po, Commissioner.

4610
04:28:21,075 --> 04:28:21,836
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you rin po, Your Honor.

4611
04:28:22,136 --> 04:28:23,577
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Next is Bucor.

4612
04:28:25,218 --> 04:28:31,582
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa Bucor ho, ayan, may binubulong na si Chairman.

4613
04:28:33,182 --> 04:28:36,584
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: There was, of course, obviously, there was a funding gap para sa mga...

4614
04:28:36,785 --> 04:28:39,346
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: inmates po natin, General Catapang.

4615
04:28:40,087 --> 04:28:40,707
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes, Mr. Chairman.

4616
04:28:40,707 --> 04:28:48,512
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tama po ba na sa 100 na subsistence allowance at 20 pesos na medicine allowance?

4617
04:28:48,632 --> 04:28:58,597
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Ito ba ba'y sapat na para tumugon sa ating mga PDLs na sa kasalukuyan ay nasa jail facility ng National Penitentiary?

4618
04:29:01,319 --> 04:29:03,440
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Nagsimula po yan sa 70 pesos.

4619
04:29:04,081 --> 04:29:06,742
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tapos last year or two years ago, ginawang 100.

4620
04:29:06,802 --> 04:29:17,569
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Pero masasabi natin na dahil tumaas na naman po yung mga bilihin, eh baka hindi po sapat yung 100 pesos na sa isang araw na pagkain.

4621
04:29:18,329 --> 04:29:28,035
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So, bakit po yung isang daang piso ngayon, ay yun po bang mga bidders natin doon sa Bucor,

4622
04:29:28,035 --> 04:29:35,960
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: eh nandun pa ba yung mga Chinese na kumokontrol ng bidding ng pagkain sa ating facility?

4623
04:29:36,820 --> 04:29:40,322
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ah, wala po kong alam na Chinese po na...

4624
04:29:40,322 --> 04:29:40,882
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Wala na po.

4625
04:29:40,922 --> 04:29:41,203
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo.

4626
04:29:41,523 --> 04:29:45,825
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kasi mabuti kung wala na po, kasi po iyon ang sumasabotahe sa ating

4627
04:29:46,536 --> 04:29:48,337
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: mga bidding o budget o

4628
04:29:48,337 --> 04:29:49,918
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: food requirements sa ating facility.

4629
04:29:49,918 --> 04:29:52,239
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Director,

4630
04:29:52,239 --> 04:29:54,561
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ano po yung congestion

4631
04:29:55,401 --> 04:29:56,322
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: rate natin sa kasalukuyan?

4632
04:29:57,322 --> 04:29:58,563
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa ngayon po,

4633
04:29:58,563 --> 04:30:00,424
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: naibaba na po natin sa

4634
04:30:01,004 --> 04:30:01,885
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 204% congestion rate po.

4635
04:30:02,525 --> 04:30:03,966
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So meaning?

4636
04:30:03,966 --> 04:30:06,948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nung umupo ako, 350%; naging 204% na po.

4637
04:30:07,548 --> 04:30:08,169
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So meaning?

4638
04:30:08,169 --> 04:30:09,329
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nung 350

4639
04:30:09,329 --> 04:30:11,811
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nung umupo ako,

4640
04:30:12,371 --> 04:30:13,872
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 350%

4641
04:30:13,872 --> 04:30:15,413
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naging 204 na po.

4642
04:30:15,413 --> 04:30:17,674
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Meaning malaki po ang iniluwag

4643
04:30:17,674 --> 04:30:19,615
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: pero ganun pa man

4644
04:30:19,615 --> 04:30:22,357
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nagsisikipan pa rin

4645
04:30:22,357 --> 04:30:23,358
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: po ang mga

4646
04:30:23,358 --> 04:30:24,558
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: PDL natin.

4647
04:30:27,160 --> 04:30:30,222
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So wala na po tayong tinatawag na mga kubol

4648
04:30:30,222 --> 04:30:32,063
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na napapanood natin

4649
04:30:32,063 --> 04:30:33,003
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: on national TV?

4650
04:30:33,864 --> 04:30:34,824
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Wala na po kasi

4651
04:30:34,824 --> 04:30:36,365
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang alam ko

4652
04:30:36,365 --> 04:30:39,047
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 5,500 kubols

4653
04:30:39,047 --> 04:30:40,968
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang na-dismantle natin

4654
04:30:40,968 --> 04:30:43,289
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: for the last two years.

4655
04:30:43,730 --> 04:30:45,190
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So for the record

4656
04:30:45,190 --> 04:30:46,571
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: siguro tanging kayo lamang

4657
04:30:46,571 --> 04:30:48,713
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ang BuCor director na nakapagpaalis noon.

4658
04:30:49,753 --> 04:30:50,113
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo,

4659
04:30:50,313 --> 04:30:52,575
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malaking bagay po na

4660
04:30:52,575 --> 04:30:54,156
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: through of course nung

4661
04:30:54,156 --> 04:30:56,597
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: decisive po kasi

4662
04:30:56,597 --> 04:30:58,218
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang Department of Justice

4663
04:30:58,218 --> 04:31:00,840
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na ipagiba lahat ang mga kubol

4664
04:31:00,840 --> 04:31:02,681
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sinunod ko lang po ang kanilang utos.

4665
04:31:03,241 --> 04:31:04,582
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: For that I truly commend

4666
04:31:04,582 --> 04:31:06,743
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the performance of your office

4667
04:31:06,743 --> 04:31:07,844
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and so far as

4668
04:31:07,844 --> 04:31:10,766
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the welfare,

4669
04:31:10,766 --> 04:31:12,106
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: yung mga

4670
04:31:12,106 --> 04:31:14,728
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: kagalingan ng ating PDLs

4671
04:31:14,728 --> 04:31:15,188
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: is concerned.

4672
04:31:15,208 --> 04:31:16,689
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Maraming salamat po, Direktor.

4673
04:31:17,129 --> 04:31:19,291
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Maraming salamat din po, SOJ,

4674
04:31:19,291 --> 04:31:20,251
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa suporta ninyo.

4675
04:31:20,691 --> 04:31:22,873
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Of course, siguro

4676
04:31:22,873 --> 04:31:25,174
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hinihintay ako ni Director General

4677
04:31:25,174 --> 04:31:26,735
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Acosta dahil kaya si

4678
04:31:26,735 --> 04:31:27,736
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mam,

4679
04:31:28,856 --> 04:31:30,217
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hanggang ngayon po ay

4680
04:31:30,217 --> 04:31:32,678
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ako'y bata pa pero

4681
04:31:32,678 --> 04:31:34,940
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ang kagandahan nyo

4682
04:31:34,940 --> 04:31:35,840
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hindi nagbabago.

4683
04:31:37,261 --> 04:31:38,882
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Sir, thank you po. Gulay po

4684
04:31:38,882 --> 04:31:39,743
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: saka prutas.

4685
04:31:40,063 --> 04:31:41,864
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Saka maging mabait po.

4686
04:31:41,864 --> 04:31:42,384
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Ha?

4687
04:31:42,564 --> 04:31:43,245
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Mabait.

4688
04:31:45,226 --> 04:31:48,188
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa inyo po bang karanasan

4689
04:31:48,188 --> 04:31:49,969
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: bilang Director General

4690
04:31:49,969 --> 04:31:51,770
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng Public Attorney's Office,

4691
04:31:52,430 --> 04:31:54,391
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ano po ba yung mga

4692
04:31:54,391 --> 04:31:56,813
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nakikita nyo kakulangan

4693
04:31:56,813 --> 04:31:58,594
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng inyong tanggapan?

4694
04:31:59,274 --> 04:32:00,195
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Lalo na sa mga

4695
04:32:00,195 --> 04:32:02,116
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: welfare ng inyong mga abugadong

4696
04:32:02,116 --> 04:32:03,197
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: naglilingkot sa bayan.

4697
04:32:05,228 --> 04:32:07,349
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Matagal nang walang creation ng staff.

4698
04:32:08,310 --> 04:32:09,190
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Yung lawyer po,

4699
04:32:09,530 --> 04:32:11,451
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: siya rin ang staff sa mga distrito.

4700
04:32:11,631 --> 04:32:13,513
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Kaya nakikiusap kami na

4701
04:32:13,513 --> 04:32:15,794
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: magdagdag ng 400 staff

4702
04:32:15,794 --> 04:32:16,674
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kahit mabababang

4703
04:32:16,714 --> 04:32:17,775
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: item lang para lang

4704
04:32:17,775 --> 04:32:19,056
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: may tao po sa opisina

4705
04:32:19,056 --> 04:32:20,757
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: pag naghe-hearing yung mga abogado.

4706
04:32:21,757 --> 04:32:23,018
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kaya ako po, naitanong ko kay

4707
04:32:23,018 --> 04:32:25,360
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mr. Good Secretary to address

4708
04:32:25,360 --> 04:32:26,640
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the, to help the

4709
04:32:26,640 --> 04:32:28,862
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: PAO office. Kasi nga po,

4710
04:32:28,942 --> 04:32:30,803
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: doon sa distrito ko, sa Batangas,

4711
04:32:31,463 --> 04:32:32,804
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: eh talagang kawawa yung

4712
04:32:32,804 --> 04:32:34,725
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: mga PAO lawyers natin. Parang

4713
04:32:34,725 --> 04:32:36,686
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: alam mo, parang

4714
04:32:36,686 --> 04:32:38,587
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: empleyado lang nung isang

4715
04:32:38,587 --> 04:32:40,008
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nag-

4716
04:32:40,008 --> 04:32:42,150
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nag-online selling.

4717
04:32:42,990 --> 04:32:44,791
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Siksikan at walang...

4718
04:32:44,791 --> 04:32:46,532
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kaya nga, I'm just trying to provide

4719
04:32:46,732 --> 04:32:48,633
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: an office for them

4720
04:32:48,633 --> 04:32:50,274
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: dahil kailangan talaga.

4721
04:32:50,354 --> 04:32:51,855
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Kaya ho, naitanong ko yun. Siyempre,

4722
04:32:52,736 --> 04:32:53,356
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: baka ho,

4723
04:32:53,916 --> 04:32:56,658
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: hindi natin napapagtuunan

4724
04:32:56,658 --> 04:32:58,279
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng pansin. Tama po yung sinasabi

4725
04:32:58,279 --> 04:33:00,901
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ni Director General Acosta

4726
04:33:00,901 --> 04:33:02,662
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na there is really a need

4727
04:33:02,662 --> 04:33:04,423
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: for a funding

4728
04:33:04,423 --> 04:33:06,764
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: insertion sa kanyang

4729
04:33:06,764 --> 04:33:07,525
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: departamento.

4730
04:33:10,416 --> 04:33:12,698
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Aha, first time ko nakarinig ng buzzer.

4731
04:33:13,358 --> 04:33:14,198
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sige, bigyan mo lang akong

4732
04:33:14,198 --> 04:33:16,080
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: dalawang minuto. Minsan lang naman magtanong eh.

4733
04:33:16,080 --> 04:33:18,241
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Actually, kung dumating agad si Congressman

4734
04:33:18,241 --> 04:33:19,542
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tinio, hindi na ako magtatanong.

4735
04:33:20,802 --> 04:33:22,603
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sige ho, maraming salamat.

4736
04:33:22,703 --> 04:33:24,044
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Basta ako ho, bilang

4737
04:33:24,044 --> 04:33:26,366
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: naniniwala sa ginagawa

4738
04:33:26,366 --> 04:33:27,386
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng inyong mga lawyers,

4739
04:33:28,007 --> 04:33:30,108
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I truly believe na, Sekretary,

4740
04:33:30,228 --> 04:33:32,029
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: kailangan sa susunod na

4741
04:33:32,029 --> 04:33:34,010
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa mga darating panahon, bigyan nyo

4742
04:33:34,010 --> 04:33:35,671
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng kaukulang pansin yung welfare

4743
04:33:35,671 --> 04:33:38,093
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng ating mga abogado sa public

4744
04:33:38,093 --> 04:33:39,673
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: attorney's office. Maraming salamat po.

4745
04:33:39,714 --> 04:33:42,075
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: Mabuhay po kayo. Salamat din po

4746
04:33:42,075 --> 04:33:43,836
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa suporta ninyo sa mga distrito natin

4747
04:33:43,836 --> 04:33:46,297
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: sa Batangas. Kailangan namin po

4748
04:33:46,297 --> 04:33:48,239
PAO Chief Persida V. Rueda-Acosta: kayo.

4749
04:33:48,259 --> 04:33:50,180
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Basta sabi ho sa Batangas, ‘Tan-aw.’ Basta

4750
04:33:50,180 --> 04:33:52,421
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: dala ko ho ang wallet, malakas ho ang loob ko.

4751
04:33:53,262 --> 04:33:54,302
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you po.

4752
04:33:54,782 --> 04:33:56,343
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you, thank you. And again,

4753
04:33:56,423 --> 04:33:58,385
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: another Batangueña, sasamantalahin ko

4754
04:33:58,385 --> 04:34:00,486
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na sa ating

4755
04:34:00,486 --> 04:34:01,686
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: magandang

4756
04:34:01,686 --> 04:34:03,488
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: OSG

4757
04:34:03,488 --> 04:34:06,269
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: SolGen Darlene

4758
04:34:06,269 --> 04:34:07,850
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Berberabe. Actually,

4759
04:34:08,070 --> 04:34:09,211
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tatanong ko sana eh.

4760
04:34:10,952 --> 04:34:11,552
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Anyways,

4761
04:34:12,933 --> 04:34:14,114
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tayo ba eh,

4762
04:34:14,554 --> 04:34:15,575
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: we are into

4763
04:34:16,575 --> 04:34:17,096
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: digitalization.

4764
04:34:17,336 --> 04:34:18,056
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tayo ba eh,

4765
04:34:18,276 --> 04:34:20,358
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: merong effective case management

4766
04:34:20,358 --> 04:34:22,179
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: system to track every

4767
04:34:22,179 --> 04:34:24,360
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: case that the OSG is handling?

4768
04:34:24,360 --> 04:34:24,760
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Tama po. Iyon po yung

4769
04:34:25,360 --> 04:34:28,522
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Tama po yun po yung kaninang aking naidulog

4770
04:34:28,522 --> 04:34:29,183
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sapagkat

4771
04:34:29,183 --> 04:34:32,605
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: on one hand na kami po'y natutuwa

4772
04:34:32,605 --> 04:34:34,486
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na i-na-approve naman

4773
04:34:34,486 --> 04:34:36,247
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa DBM side

4774
04:34:36,247 --> 04:34:38,188
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: yun pong pagbili

4775
04:34:38,188 --> 04:34:40,229
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng building ng OSG sapagkat

4776
04:34:40,229 --> 04:34:42,190
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 49 years old na po yung

4777
04:34:42,190 --> 04:34:43,971
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: OSG main building at

4778
04:34:43,971 --> 04:34:46,413
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: medyo lumilindol po kahit walang lindol

4779
04:34:46,413 --> 04:34:47,974
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Ang natanggal po

4780
04:34:48,294 --> 04:34:48,794
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ay yung budget po na nakalaan

4781
04:34:48,794 --> 04:34:51,216
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sa aming IISP,

4782
04:34:51,216 --> 04:34:53,757
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: na nakaprograma po sana

4783
04:34:53,757 --> 04:34:55,438
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: yung upgrading

4784
04:34:55,438 --> 04:34:58,320
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ng docket management.

4785
04:34:58,320 --> 04:34:59,961
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So ang docket po ng OSG

4786
04:34:59,961 --> 04:35:02,082
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: ngayon ay 460,000 cases.

4787
04:35:02,082 --> 04:35:03,543
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: po ng OSG ngayon ay

4788
04:35:03,543 --> 04:35:06,265
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: 460,000 cases.

4789
04:35:07,345 --> 04:35:08,146
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: So, kaya po

4790
04:35:08,146 --> 04:35:10,247
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: malaking bagay kung yun po

4791
04:35:10,247 --> 04:35:11,988
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: sana ang aming hirit ay

4792
04:35:11,988 --> 04:35:14,510
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: mapapagbigyan kung makakahanap

4793
04:35:14,510 --> 04:35:16,591
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: pa po ng fiscal space.

4794
04:35:16,991 --> 04:35:17,831
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Thank you,

4795
04:35:18,312 --> 04:35:19,653
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Darlene.

4796
04:35:19,653 --> 04:35:21,574
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa totoo lang as member of the

4797
04:35:21,574 --> 04:35:23,755
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: committee on APRO, that's one

4798
04:35:23,755 --> 04:35:25,576
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: thing na I'll look into

4799
04:35:25,576 --> 04:35:27,457
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and as member ng budget

4800
04:35:27,457 --> 04:35:29,698
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: review committee. Maraming salamat po.

4801
04:35:29,799 --> 04:35:31,039
Solicitor General Darlene Marie B. Berberabe: Maraming salamat po. Thank you.

4802
04:35:31,139 --> 04:35:32,300
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Isa na lang. Isa na lang.

4803
04:35:33,000 --> 04:35:34,681
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sa ating nagtetext na

4804
04:35:34,681 --> 04:35:37,543
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: GOCC sa Office of the

4805
04:35:37,543 --> 04:35:39,644
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Government Corporate Counsel. There was this

4806
04:35:39,644 --> 04:35:40,925
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: meeting

4807
04:35:40,925 --> 04:35:43,507
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: between this representation and

4808
04:35:43,507 --> 04:35:44,988
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the president of SSS

4809
04:35:44,988 --> 04:35:47,349
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and ilang commissioners

4810
04:35:47,349 --> 04:35:48,129
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: just

4811
04:35:48,329 --> 04:35:48,990
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: a month ago.

4812
04:35:49,770 --> 04:35:51,691
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sila po ay namomroblema. I guess

4813
04:35:51,691 --> 04:35:53,773
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: it falls under your

4814
04:35:53,773 --> 04:35:55,374
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: office.

4815
04:35:55,954 --> 04:35:57,495
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Siyempre mayroon sariling charter.

4816
04:35:58,095 --> 04:36:00,217
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Eto, sekretary, maraming

4817
04:36:00,217 --> 04:36:01,837
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: pera pinakamayaman sa

4818
04:36:01,837 --> 04:36:04,119
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: GOCC ng bansang Pilipinas.

4819
04:36:04,779 --> 04:36:06,000
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Alam mo, iyong problema na

4820
04:36:06,000 --> 04:36:07,181
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: i-brought out niya sa akin.

4821
04:36:08,361 --> 04:36:10,302
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: There is a need

4822
04:36:10,302 --> 04:36:12,064
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: to fill in,

4823
04:36:12,144 --> 04:36:13,985
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: maglagay ng mga district offices

4824
04:36:13,985 --> 04:36:15,045
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng SSS.

4825
04:36:16,026 --> 04:36:17,227
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Unfortunately for them,

4826
04:36:17,227 --> 04:36:18,187
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: antagal na daw po sa

4827
04:36:18,187 --> 04:36:20,629
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tanggapan ng, ewan ko kung sa inyo

4828
04:36:20,629 --> 04:36:22,250
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ngayong right office na concerned,

4829
04:36:22,830 --> 04:36:24,171
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sabi niya, boss, may pondo kami.

4830
04:36:24,831 --> 04:36:26,672
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Available. At marami.

4831
04:36:27,052 --> 04:36:27,933
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: We need to hire

4832
04:36:27,933 --> 04:36:30,434
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: 2,000 to 3,000 personnel.

4833
04:36:31,275 --> 04:36:32,656
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Nasa inyo daw pong tanggapan.

4834
04:36:32,836 --> 04:36:34,557
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Ano po ba ang

4835
04:36:34,557 --> 04:36:36,478
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: masasabi ninyo? Hindi ko

4836
04:36:36,478 --> 04:36:38,559
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sinasabing nade-delay. Baka may

4837
04:36:38,559 --> 04:36:40,380
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: technicalities o may guidelines

4838
04:36:40,380 --> 04:36:42,722
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: na dapat i-comply. I'm just asking

4839
04:36:42,722 --> 04:36:44,343
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: and I just wanted to be

4840
04:36:44,343 --> 04:36:46,304
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: enlightened by your office

4841
04:36:46,304 --> 04:36:48,085
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: with regards to the query,

4842
04:36:48,205 --> 04:36:50,046
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of a president

4843
04:36:50,046 --> 04:36:51,007
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: of GOCC.

4844
04:36:51,727 --> 04:36:54,288
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: I'm not sure if it's with us po.

4845
04:36:54,769 --> 04:36:55,769
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So hindi po sa inyo.

4846
04:36:55,949 --> 04:36:57,470
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: But I will check po.

4847
04:36:57,891 --> 04:37:00,012
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So pakicheck na lang po. Kaya nga sabi ko, I'm not

4848
04:37:00,012 --> 04:37:02,153
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sure, but kaya nga

4849
04:37:02,153 --> 04:37:04,214
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: in-address ko. Para, kasi para

4850
04:37:04,214 --> 04:37:06,055
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: tayo magkatulungan. Baka

4851
04:37:06,055 --> 04:37:07,196
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: it falls under your

4852
04:37:07,196 --> 04:37:10,438
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: office. I have the

4853
04:37:10,438 --> 04:37:11,819
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: our

4854
04:37:11,819 --> 04:37:13,700
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: head for the

4855
04:37:13,700 --> 04:37:16,201
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: head for the SSS team here po.

4856
04:37:16,201 --> 04:37:17,382
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala daw po sa amin.

4857
04:37:18,223 --> 04:37:20,284
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: So maigi naman, pero

4858
04:37:20,284 --> 04:37:22,065
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sige, hanapin ko na lang. Kasi nga

4859
04:37:22,065 --> 04:37:24,146
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I was

4860
04:37:24,146 --> 04:37:26,928
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: elected to be

4861
04:37:26,928 --> 04:37:28,228
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: the chair of civil service.

4862
04:37:28,589 --> 04:37:29,709
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Akala niya sa akin,

4863
04:37:30,290 --> 04:37:32,111
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sabi niya sa government

4864
04:37:32,111 --> 04:37:34,592
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: OCG yata yun. So kung hindi po

4865
04:37:34,592 --> 04:37:35,353
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa inyong office,

4866
04:37:36,333 --> 04:37:37,894
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ipapacheck ko na lang po sa aking

4867
04:37:37,894 --> 04:37:40,516
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: COS. Anyways po,

4868
04:37:40,876 --> 04:37:42,177
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: marami pong salamat sa inyong

4869
04:37:42,177 --> 04:37:44,238
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: pagtugon. Panghuli na lang, Secretary,

4870
04:37:44,678 --> 04:37:45,979
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa aking isa pang kababayan,

4871
04:37:47,360 --> 04:37:47,960
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa kay director,

4872
04:37:47,960 --> 04:37:50,121
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Matibag. I would like to

4873
04:37:50,121 --> 04:37:52,043
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: commend his performance. Simula nang maging

4874
04:37:52,043 --> 04:37:53,944
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: NBI director, hangang-hanga ako.

4875
04:37:54,064 --> 04:37:55,385
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Mas guwapo pa sa akin.

4876
04:37:56,565 --> 04:37:57,966
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Alam mo, pag nakikita kita

4877
04:37:57,966 --> 04:38:00,087
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng Director, hindi ka ba

4878
04:38:00,087 --> 04:38:02,008
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: nahirapan sa pagpa-interview? Dahil

4879
04:38:02,008 --> 04:38:04,050
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: umaga tanghali hapon, laman ka ng

4880
04:38:04,050 --> 04:38:06,151
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: television. Naiingit ako

4881
04:38:06,151 --> 04:38:08,012
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa iyo. Feeling ko talagang mas guwapo

4882
04:38:08,012 --> 04:38:08,592
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ka na sa akin.

4883
04:38:10,513 --> 04:38:12,194
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Hindi naman po. Mas guwapo

4884
04:38:12,194 --> 04:38:12,915
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: pa rin po kayo.

4885
04:38:13,675 --> 04:38:16,217
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Anyways, for the record,

4886
04:38:16,217 --> 04:38:17,878
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: I would like personally to commend

4887
04:38:17,978 --> 04:38:18,478
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: The

4888
04:38:18,478 --> 04:38:22,260
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: accomplishments ng National Bureau of Investigation

4889
04:38:22,260 --> 04:38:23,941
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: under the helm of

4890
04:38:23,941 --> 04:38:25,662
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: NBI Director Matibag.

4891
04:38:26,183 --> 04:38:28,164
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: At sa inyo pong lahat ng mga offices

4892
04:38:28,164 --> 04:38:30,045
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: attached offices ng DOJ,

4893
04:38:30,045 --> 04:38:31,986
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa pangunguna ni Secretary.

4894
04:38:32,466 --> 04:38:34,027
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Sekretary, napakaganda po

4895
04:38:34,027 --> 04:38:36,349
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: ng ginagawa ninyo sa bansang Pilipinas.

4896
04:38:36,469 --> 04:38:37,950
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: Magandang hapon po at maraming salamat

4897
04:38:37,950 --> 04:38:38,510
Rep. Amado Carlos A. Bolilia IV: sa inyo lahat.

4898
04:38:38,520 --> 04:38:40,346
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you, Kong Kaloy.

4899
04:38:41,455 --> 04:38:43,465
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Next in line from the minority,

4900
04:38:44,413 --> 04:38:44,736
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Kong

4901
04:38:44,736 --> 04:38:47,255
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Antonio Tini po.

4902
04:38:51,160 --> 04:38:51,758
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Salamat, Chair.

4903
04:38:52,894 --> 04:38:54,967
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Chair, ang tanong ko po ay

4904
04:38:54,967 --> 04:38:55,844
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaugnay sa

4905
04:38:55,844 --> 04:38:59,193
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential funds ng Department

4906
04:38:59,193 --> 04:39:01,147
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of Justice. So,

4907
04:39:01,426 --> 04:39:02,821
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: lumabas na po ito sa balita, no?

4908
04:39:02,921 --> 04:39:05,433
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yung paglobo

4909
04:39:05,433 --> 04:39:07,067
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng confidential funds

4910
04:39:07,067 --> 04:39:09,300
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Office of the

4911
04:39:09,300 --> 04:39:10,755
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Secretary, in particular,

4912
04:39:11,233 --> 04:39:12,988
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in 2025. Pero bago yun,

4913
04:39:14,064 --> 04:39:15,160
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024,

4914
04:39:16,316 --> 04:39:17,373
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: makikita po natin

4915
04:39:17,373 --> 04:39:19,247
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung datos.

4916
04:39:21,061 --> 04:39:22,317
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2024, sa GAA,

4917
04:39:22,456 --> 04:39:24,031
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 168 million

4918
04:39:24,031 --> 04:39:26,224
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang approved

4919
04:39:26,224 --> 04:39:28,237
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na confidential expenses.

4920
04:39:28,735 --> 04:39:30,828
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: But the actual, it is reported,

4921
04:39:31,008 --> 04:39:33,460
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naging 271.6 million.

4922
04:39:34,795 --> 04:39:35,852
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-explain po,

4923
04:39:35,991 --> 04:39:36,788
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano nangyari yun?

4924
04:39:39,639 --> 04:39:41,732
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kung yung particular po na bagay,

4925
04:39:41,931 --> 04:39:43,267
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kasi meron po tayong

4926
04:39:43,267 --> 04:39:45,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa akin nung pagkakaunawa,

4927
04:39:45,838 --> 04:39:47,015
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung COA Circular

4928
04:39:47,015 --> 04:39:49,347
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 2015, ito po ang

4929
04:39:49,347 --> 04:39:50,922
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nagbibigay ng kalatas,

4930
04:39:50,961 --> 04:39:52,895
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kung paano po natin pwedeng

4931
04:39:52,895 --> 04:39:54,609
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: gastusin yung confidential fund.

4932
04:39:54,729 --> 04:39:56,623
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At sino lamang, anong mga

4933
04:39:56,623 --> 04:39:58,995
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: activities lamang ang pinapayagan.

4934
04:39:59,573 --> 04:40:01,546
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pangalwa, sa nasabi rin

4935
04:40:01,546 --> 04:40:02,423
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung circular,

4936
04:40:03,061 --> 04:40:05,194
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nakalagay din po kung paano po ino-augment

4937
04:40:05,194 --> 04:40:06,948
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: at sinusupplement

4938
04:40:06,948 --> 04:40:08,344
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung confidential fund

4939
04:40:08,344 --> 04:40:10,576
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: or intelligence fund.

4940
04:40:11,174 --> 04:40:12,570
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ay nakapaloob

4941
04:40:12,570 --> 04:40:14,742
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dito rin sa circular na to

4942
04:40:14,742 --> 04:40:16,417
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng Commission on Audit po.

4943
04:40:16,995 --> 04:40:18,370
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, ang klaro po,

4944
04:40:18,370 --> 04:40:19,646
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: first of all,

4945
04:40:19,746 --> 04:40:20,782
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: confidential,

4946
04:40:20,862 --> 04:40:22,178
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito hindi intelligence fund.

4947
04:40:22,178 --> 04:40:23,713
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala kayong intelligence fund.

4948
04:40:23,713 --> 04:40:25,367
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pang-military po yun.

4949
04:40:26,085 --> 04:40:29,075
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, yung sinasabi nyo ng 2024,

4950
04:40:29,354 --> 04:40:31,407
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: in-augment ang inyong confidential funds?

4951
04:40:31,786 --> 04:40:33,241
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Kasi, ang GAA,

4952
04:40:33,381 --> 04:40:34,955
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 168M, million,

4953
04:40:36,191 --> 04:40:38,264
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pero sa budget documents,

4954
04:40:38,783 --> 04:40:40,337
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ang actual na confidential

4955
04:40:40,337 --> 04:40:41,175
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: expenses nyo,

4956
04:40:41,314 --> 04:40:43,766
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 271 million, lumagpas by

4957
04:40:43,766 --> 04:40:44,962
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: more than

4958
04:40:44,962 --> 04:40:48,450
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 102 million pesos.

4959
04:40:50,763 --> 04:41:45,471
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pase po sa pinasa po na records, nung 2023 po, meron pong SICA na tinatawag for the confidential fund na 215 million, ito po ay naging continuing, kaya tumawid po siya ng 2024, kaya bahagi po nung 2024 ay nanggaling po dun sa SICA na ipinasok po nung 2023.

4960
04:41:45,471 --> 04:41:46,827
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paki-explain po, ano yung SICA?

4961
04:41:46,847 --> 04:41:48,900
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung Congressional

4962
04:41:48,900 --> 04:41:49,518
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Initiative,

4963
04:41:50,235 --> 04:41:52,807
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po yung

4964
04:41:52,807 --> 04:41:54,999
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pagpumasok na po, ang pagkakaalam

4965
04:41:54,999 --> 04:41:56,754
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ko po, nagsisimula po sa

4966
04:41:56,754 --> 04:41:58,029
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: NET, di ba?

4967
04:41:58,428 --> 04:42:00,441
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pagkatapos, merong HGAB, no?

4968
04:42:00,880 --> 04:42:02,734
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: So, meron tayong House

4969
04:42:02,734 --> 04:42:04,468
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: General Appropriations Bill.

4970
04:42:05,186 --> 04:42:06,860
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At bago, bago

4971
04:42:06,860 --> 04:42:08,714
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po, bago po aproban,

4972
04:42:09,192 --> 04:42:10,548
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po yung mga Congressional

4973
04:42:10,548 --> 04:42:12,162
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Initiative na source po.

4974
04:42:12,541 --> 04:42:15,013
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Congress introduced changes and adjustments.

4975
04:42:16,747 --> 04:42:18,920
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Insertion, ba? Yung tinatawag na

4976
04:42:18,920 --> 04:42:20,355
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Congressional insertion.

4977
04:42:20,913 --> 04:42:22,847
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay? So, you're saying

4978
04:42:22,847 --> 04:42:24,721
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nung 2024 may dinagdag

4979
04:42:24,721 --> 04:42:25,478
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa inyong

4980
04:42:25,478 --> 04:42:28,329
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ganun ba yun?

4981
04:42:32,924 --> 04:42:34,239
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pagal na rin po ako sa Kongreso,

4982
04:42:34,359 --> 04:42:36,033
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon ko lang po narinig yung SICA, ano yung

4983
04:42:36,033 --> 04:42:36,651
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ibig sabihin nun?

4984
04:42:37,588 --> 04:42:40,459
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Congress introduced

4985
04:42:40,459 --> 04:42:42,591
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: changes and adjustments.

4986
04:42:43,508 --> 04:42:44,086
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung

4987
04:42:44,086 --> 04:42:45,183
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: CICA.

4988
04:42:45,183 --> 04:42:46,558
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: CICA po.

4989
04:42:46,937 --> 04:42:47,894
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Okay, thank you.

4990
04:42:48,133 --> 04:42:50,007
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ay base po sa

4991
04:42:50,007 --> 04:42:51,083
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: record ng aming

4992
04:42:51,083 --> 04:42:53,097
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: finance department po.

4993
04:42:53,814 --> 04:42:54,572
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Nagkaroon po ang...

4994
04:42:54,572 --> 04:42:57,243
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That CICA was for 2024?

4995
04:42:57,861 --> 04:42:58,977
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: For 2023.

4996
04:42:59,495 --> 04:43:01,847
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2023. Tapos,

4997
04:43:02,944 --> 04:43:04,379
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginastos nyo for 2024.

4998
04:43:04,798 --> 04:43:06,173
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo, kasi allowed po

4999
04:43:06,173 --> 04:43:07,708
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung budget allocation

5000
04:43:07,708 --> 04:43:10,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: for MOE is allowed

5001
04:43:10,160 --> 04:43:12,273
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: to be used for the two years po.

5002
04:43:12,911 --> 04:43:14,306
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May may expiry po siya.

5003
04:43:14,944 --> 04:43:15,801
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, ngayon...

5004
04:43:15,801 --> 04:43:17,974
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, tumawid.

5005
04:43:17,974 --> 04:43:18,532
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5006
04:43:19,908 --> 04:43:21,741
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: On 2025 GAA,

5007
04:43:22,918 --> 04:43:23,476
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung

5008
04:43:23,476 --> 04:43:25,788
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential funds ng

5009
04:43:25,788 --> 04:43:27,562
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Secretary of Justice

5010
04:43:27,562 --> 04:43:30,014
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naging 1.524

5011
04:43:30,014 --> 04:43:31,051
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: billion pesos.

5012
04:43:31,868 --> 04:43:34,320
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, 2024, 168

5013
04:43:34,320 --> 04:43:34,858
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: million.

5014
04:43:35,675 --> 04:43:37,688
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2025, 1.5 billion.

5015
04:43:37,828 --> 04:43:39,582
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Almost 10 times

5016
04:43:39,582 --> 04:43:41,735
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang nilaki sa isang

5017
04:43:41,735 --> 04:43:42,193
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: taon.

5018
04:43:44,027 --> 04:43:46,041
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pakipaliwanag po. Paano nangyari yun?

5019
04:43:46,041 --> 04:43:47,536
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos naman, pagdating ng

5020
04:43:47,536 --> 04:43:49,689
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026, 729.

5021
04:43:49,808 --> 04:43:51,602
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, ano ang

5022
04:43:51,602 --> 04:43:55,410
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kapabalaghan ang nangyari

5023
04:43:55,410 --> 04:43:57,682
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa 2025 na lumobo

5024
04:43:57,682 --> 04:43:59,556
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng sampung beses ang confidential

5025
04:43:59,556 --> 04:44:00,732
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: funds ninyo?

5026
04:44:03,901 --> 04:44:05,357
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Base po sa record,

5027
04:44:05,935 --> 04:44:08,426
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung 1.5 na confidential fund

5028
04:44:08,426 --> 04:44:10,380
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ng Department of Justice

5029
04:44:10,380 --> 04:44:11,197
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay

5030
04:44:11,197 --> 04:44:14,207
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: may ilan component to.

5031
04:44:14,367 --> 04:44:16,041
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa Office of the Secretary

5032
04:44:16,041 --> 04:44:17,995
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: proper, 1.184,

5033
04:44:18,752 --> 04:44:20,347
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: which is 1 billion

5034
04:44:20,347 --> 04:44:21,702
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 184 million.

5035
04:44:22,360 --> 04:44:24,393
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa WPP po, yung sa

5036
04:44:24,393 --> 04:44:26,646
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Witness Protection, ito po

5037
04:44:26,646 --> 04:44:28,480
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay 319 million.

5038
04:44:29,277 --> 04:44:30,692
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tapos yung sa Iyakat po

5039
04:44:30,692 --> 04:44:31,849
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay 15 million.

5040
04:44:32,746 --> 04:44:34,580
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa Office of the Cybercrime

5041
04:44:34,580 --> 04:44:36,573
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: po, 475,000.

5042
04:44:37,271 --> 04:44:38,467
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Tapos yung NCC

5043
04:44:38,467 --> 04:44:40,520
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: o SAIC po ay 5 million pesos.

5044
04:44:41,198 --> 04:44:42,354
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa kabuhan, ito po ay

5045
04:44:42,354 --> 04:44:43,291
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 1.5

5046
04:44:43,291 --> 04:44:46,141
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 1.1 billion

5047
04:44:46,141 --> 04:44:46,400
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pesos.

5048
04:44:46,400 --> 04:44:48,633
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 1,524,000,000 po.

5049
04:44:49,271 --> 04:44:50,925
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At tama po yan.

5050
04:44:51,444 --> 04:44:53,158
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yan po ang nasa record ng DOJ.

5051
04:44:53,576 --> 04:44:54,912
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At for 2026,

5052
04:44:55,490 --> 04:44:57,842
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito naman po ay mula po sa 1.5,

5053
04:44:58,460 --> 04:45:03,783
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: bumaba po sa 729,946,000.

5054
04:45:04,460 --> 04:45:06,633
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At ang breakdown naman po nito ay

5055
04:45:06,633 --> 04:45:08,786
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: sa Office of the Secretary po,

5056
04:45:09,005 --> 04:45:10,421
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 214,000,000.

5057
04:45:10,899 --> 04:45:13,291
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung sa Witness Protection Program po,

5058
04:45:13,391 --> 04:45:14,507
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 500,000,000.

5059
04:45:15,145 --> 04:45:16,142
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sa Iyakat po,

5060
04:45:16,540 --> 04:45:17,776
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: dun sa Interagency,

5061
04:45:18,553 --> 04:45:22,042
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Interagency Council Against Trafficking,

5062
04:45:22,461 --> 04:45:23,059
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 10,000,000.

5063
04:45:23,617 --> 04:45:25,132
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Yung Office of the Cybercrime,

5064
04:45:25,211 --> 04:45:26,766
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 475,000.

5065
04:45:27,304 --> 04:45:29,457
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At yung NCC o SAEK o SAEM,

5066
04:45:29,876 --> 04:45:30,932
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: 5,000,000 pa rin po.

5067
04:45:31,650 --> 04:45:33,522
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, salamat po sa mga breakdown.

5068
04:45:33,701 --> 04:45:36,190
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course, ang pinakamalaki dun sa binanggit nyo,

5069
04:45:36,190 --> 04:45:38,560
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung 1.5 billion nung 2025,

5070
04:45:38,918 --> 04:45:40,113
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion nun,

5071
04:45:40,750 --> 04:45:42,462
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ay sa Office of the Secretary.

5072
04:45:42,741 --> 04:45:42,881
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

5073
04:45:43,279 --> 04:45:43,617
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5074
04:45:44,394 --> 04:45:44,732
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

5075
04:45:46,186 --> 04:45:47,102
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ano ang,

5076
04:45:47,480 --> 04:45:48,337
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: naubos ba yun?

5077
04:45:48,974 --> 04:45:49,949
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For 2025?

5078
04:45:50,547 --> 04:45:52,100
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Base po sa records namin,

5079
04:45:52,239 --> 04:45:52,518
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: opo,

5080
04:45:52,677 --> 04:45:54,967
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: fully obligated and liquidated po.

5081
04:45:54,967 --> 04:45:55,266
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Of course,

5082
04:45:55,565 --> 04:45:56,441
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sunod na tanong ko,

5083
04:45:56,580 --> 04:45:59,607
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: paano naubos ng Office of the Secretary,

5084
04:45:59,766 --> 04:46:02,056
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion in confidential funds,

5085
04:46:02,156 --> 04:46:02,813
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion,

5086
04:46:03,709 --> 04:46:05,441
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: when in previous years,

5087
04:46:06,317 --> 04:46:06,994
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ganon,

5088
04:46:07,313 --> 04:46:08,926
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 10 times less

5089
04:46:08,926 --> 04:46:10,280
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang inyo.

5090
04:46:10,818 --> 04:46:11,395
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay, of course,

5091
04:46:11,455 --> 04:46:11,992
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nasabihin nyo na,

5092
04:46:12,032 --> 04:46:12,789
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential nga,

5093
04:46:12,789 --> 04:46:13,824
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: eh bakit mo tinatanong?

5094
04:46:13,924 --> 04:46:14,422
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Diba, ganon?

5095
04:46:14,880 --> 04:46:14,979
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O,

5096
04:46:15,358 --> 04:46:15,756
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: however,

5097
04:46:16,054 --> 04:46:18,205
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kahit yung Office of the President,

5098
04:46:18,504 --> 04:46:20,037
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: may general na paliwanag,

5099
04:46:20,236 --> 04:46:23,203
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kasi sila may 4 billion plus confidential.

5100
04:46:23,283 --> 04:46:25,055
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi ng Office of the President,

5101
04:46:25,234 --> 04:46:26,489
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ginagamit daw for

5102
04:46:26,489 --> 04:46:27,763
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Coast Watch,

5103
04:46:28,161 --> 04:46:30,989
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: for their drug monitoring program,

5104
04:46:31,168 --> 04:46:32,243
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and number of others.

5105
04:46:33,597 --> 04:46:34,553
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tinatanong ko ngayon,

5106
04:46:34,732 --> 04:46:35,867
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang Department of Justice,

5107
04:46:36,027 --> 04:46:37,639
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1 billion pisong cash yan.

5108
04:46:37,839 --> 04:46:38,476
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Alam na natin,

5109
04:46:38,535 --> 04:46:39,651
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang confidential funds,

5110
04:46:39,830 --> 04:46:41,244
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dinidisburst in cash.

5111
04:46:41,244 --> 04:46:43,235
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: We're talking about 1 billion pesos.

5112
04:46:43,474 --> 04:46:44,887
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, quarterly,

5113
04:46:45,923 --> 04:46:48,989
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tiga to 250 million at least.

5114
04:46:49,368 --> 04:46:49,467
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: No?

5115
04:46:50,025 --> 04:46:50,343
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5116
04:46:51,140 --> 04:46:52,295
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Saan nyo naman ginamit to?

5117
04:46:53,271 --> 04:46:54,465
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: At ano ang naging bunga?

5118
04:46:56,158 --> 04:47:00,160
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Dito po nakapaloob lahat po nung activities po.

5119
04:47:00,578 --> 04:47:01,016
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Of course,

5120
04:47:01,096 --> 04:47:02,012
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: nung panahon po ito,

5121
04:47:02,171 --> 04:47:04,023
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: si Ombudsman,

5122
04:47:04,123 --> 04:47:05,298
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: then Secretary Boeing,

5123
04:47:05,417 --> 04:47:07,966
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: rimulya po ang Secretary.

5124
04:47:08,404 --> 04:47:10,017
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Pero base po sa record namin,

5125
04:47:10,455 --> 04:47:12,605
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po lahat ay disversed and liquidated

5126
04:47:12,605 --> 04:47:14,577
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: pursuant to the COA circular po.

5127
04:47:15,791 --> 04:47:16,787
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5128
04:47:18,061 --> 04:47:21,168
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala naman itong mga notice of disallowance?

5129
04:47:21,924 --> 04:47:22,721
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po.

5130
04:47:22,820 --> 04:47:23,179
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po.

5131
04:47:23,657 --> 04:47:24,095
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala.

5132
04:47:24,334 --> 04:47:24,772
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Wala po.

5133
04:47:24,871 --> 04:47:25,130
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5134
04:47:25,250 --> 04:47:25,429
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala.

5135
04:47:25,987 --> 04:47:26,325
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5136
04:47:26,783 --> 04:47:27,380
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pero alam,

5137
04:47:27,659 --> 04:47:28,057
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I mean,

5138
04:47:28,495 --> 04:47:28,854
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

5139
04:47:29,790 --> 04:47:30,646
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ngayon,

5140
04:47:30,746 --> 04:47:33,294
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ang hinihingi niyong confidential funds,

5141
04:47:33,892 --> 04:47:36,401
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026 is 729,

5142
04:47:36,600 --> 04:47:37,416
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and for this year,

5143
04:47:37,775 --> 04:47:41,956
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: it's supposed to be 364 million.

5144
04:47:42,115 --> 04:47:42,554
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po?

5145
04:47:43,828 --> 04:47:44,186
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Opo.

5146
04:47:45,660 --> 04:47:48,906
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Base sa NEP 2027, 364 million.

5147
04:47:48,906 --> 04:47:49,045
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5148
04:47:49,344 --> 04:47:50,976
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Teka mo na, balikan ko pala yung tanong ko.

5149
04:47:51,434 --> 04:47:52,769
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Saan niyo pala ginamit?

5150
04:47:53,904 --> 04:47:54,521
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: For what?

5151
04:47:55,337 --> 04:47:58,105
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ano yung particular na gamit ng 1 billion?

5152
04:47:58,503 --> 04:48:01,769
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Bakit lumaki ng gano'n sa particular na taon na yun?

5153
04:48:03,143 --> 04:48:03,740
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tapos,

5154
04:48:04,497 --> 04:48:06,488
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2026, hindi na kailangan.

5155
04:48:06,628 --> 04:48:09,156
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 2027, mukhang lalong hindi niyo kailangan.

5156
04:48:09,634 --> 04:48:11,128
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So, saan ginamit?

5157
04:48:11,426 --> 04:48:13,019
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: In very general terms,

5158
04:48:13,019 --> 04:48:15,011
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ako humihingi ng detalyo,

5159
04:48:15,528 --> 04:48:16,325
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi ako humihingi ng detalyo,

5160
04:48:16,325 --> 04:48:18,396
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na mag-i-expose ng inyong mga,

5161
04:48:19,352 --> 04:48:20,347
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of course,

5162
04:48:20,467 --> 04:48:23,812
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: that will compromise law enforcement and so on.

5163
04:48:25,066 --> 04:48:26,261
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Give us an idea.

5164
04:48:26,381 --> 04:48:29,049
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: The taxpayers deserve to hear,

5165
04:48:29,168 --> 04:48:31,478
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: isang bilyong pisong confidential funds,

5166
04:48:31,697 --> 04:48:33,091
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: inubos niyo sa isang taon,

5167
04:48:34,087 --> 04:48:35,978
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: anong pakinabang niya ng taong bayan,

5168
04:48:36,058 --> 04:48:36,795
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung meron man?

5169
04:48:38,746 --> 04:48:39,602
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Marami po.

5170
04:48:39,782 --> 04:48:41,773
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At ang pagsunod po dito,

5171
04:48:42,032 --> 04:48:43,704
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: mahal na congressman,

5172
04:48:43,704 --> 04:48:44,262
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ay,

5173
04:48:44,262 --> 04:48:48,284
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: base pa rin po sa panuntunan ng circular po ng COA.

5174
04:48:48,483 --> 04:48:52,565
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po ay gagamitin lamang sa confidential activities,

5175
04:48:52,764 --> 04:48:53,262
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: of course,

5176
04:48:53,262 --> 04:48:56,588
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: yung pag-gather po ng informasyon.

5177
04:48:56,787 --> 04:48:58,141
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Ito po yung mga bagay,

5178
04:48:58,141 --> 04:49:00,132
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: kasi ang sa pagkakabatid ko po,

5179
04:49:00,132 --> 04:49:03,716
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: ito po ang pagkakaiba nung confidential funds sa regular funding.

5180
04:49:03,915 --> 04:49:08,475
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: May exemption siya doon sa procurement activities.

5181
04:49:08,674 --> 04:49:13,055
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: At meron din siyang peculiar na pamamaraan ng pagliliquidate.

5182
04:49:13,254 --> 04:49:13,931
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Na ito po ang lahat,

5183
04:49:13,931 --> 04:49:16,161
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: lahat ay sinunod po ng Department of Justice,

5184
04:49:16,301 --> 04:49:16,639
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Your Honor.

5185
04:49:17,356 --> 04:49:18,093
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Natumbok mo.

5186
04:49:18,392 --> 04:49:20,164
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Buti po sinabi ni Secretary,

5187
04:49:20,283 --> 04:49:21,458
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yun talaga ang totoo dyan.

5188
04:49:22,334 --> 04:49:26,496
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Exempted from normal procurement rules.

5189
04:49:27,193 --> 04:49:27,611
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

5190
04:49:28,268 --> 04:49:30,040
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kaya ngayon ang concern natin dito,

5191
04:49:30,180 --> 04:49:31,773
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair,

5192
04:49:32,350 --> 04:49:33,147
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Madam Chair?

5193
04:49:33,326 --> 04:49:34,222
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Chair pala,

5194
04:49:34,640 --> 04:49:35,596
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and I will wind up.

5195
04:49:35,715 --> 04:49:36,711
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: O, Madam Chair is here.

5196
04:49:37,229 --> 04:49:37,468
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5197
04:49:38,164 --> 04:49:38,523
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Na,

5198
04:49:38,981 --> 04:49:39,638
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: unfortunately,

5199
04:49:39,937 --> 04:49:41,271
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the pattern of

5200
04:49:41,271 --> 04:49:42,326
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: bloating

5201
04:49:42,326 --> 04:49:42,844
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

5202
04:49:43,800 --> 04:49:44,795
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: um,

5203
04:49:44,795 --> 04:49:50,152
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential and confidential funds as well as intelligence funds uh,

5204
04:49:50,152 --> 04:50:09,925
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to unreasonable proportion sa kaso po ng DOJ nung twenty twenty five naging naging almost fifteen percent of the total agency budget no nang OSEC ay confidential okay sa kaso ng office of the president.

5205
04:50:09,925 --> 04:50:11,916
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Okay.

5206
04:50:11,916 --> 04:50:13,111
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kaso ng office of the president.

5207
04:50:13,111 --> 04:50:14,106
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sa kaso ng office of the president.

5208
04:50:14,106 --> 04:50:15,898
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Almost fifty percent

5209
04:50:15,898 --> 04:50:18,865
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the budget of the office of the president

5210
04:50:18,865 --> 04:50:21,255
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential and intelligence funds.

5211
04:50:21,593 --> 04:50:22,191
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Exempted.

5212
04:50:22,250 --> 04:50:22,728
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo nga,

5213
04:50:22,907 --> 04:50:23,445
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: tama yun.

5214
04:50:23,983 --> 04:50:24,281
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Sabi nyo,

5215
04:50:24,441 --> 04:50:25,635
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: exempted sa procurement.

5216
04:50:26,512 --> 04:50:27,109
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala nang,

5217
04:50:27,228 --> 04:50:28,244
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: wala nang mga,

5218
04:50:28,642 --> 04:50:28,841
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

5219
04:50:28,921 --> 04:50:29,797
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: the safeguards and that.

5220
04:50:30,255 --> 04:50:31,490
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya napakadali pong

5221
04:50:31,490 --> 04:50:32,963
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maabuso.

5222
04:50:33,600 --> 04:50:33,879
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Kaya,

5223
04:50:34,098 --> 04:50:34,218
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma,

5224
04:50:34,337 --> 04:50:34,656
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ma,

5225
04:50:35,173 --> 04:50:36,189
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to the chairs,

5226
04:50:36,786 --> 04:50:37,065
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ah,

5227
04:50:37,165 --> 04:50:39,116
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yan po ang panawagan natin.

5228
04:50:39,275 --> 04:50:40,191
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's bring,

5229
04:50:40,550 --> 04:50:42,103
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: nagsimula po ang ganitong

5230
04:50:42,103 --> 04:50:42,959
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sobrang paglulog.

5231
04:50:42,979 --> 04:50:43,397
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Paglulog po ng

5232
04:50:43,397 --> 04:50:44,811
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential intelligence funds

5233
04:50:44,811 --> 04:50:45,966
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sa ilalim ng

5234
04:50:45,966 --> 04:50:46,523
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Duterte

5235
04:50:46,523 --> 04:50:47,957
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: presidency.

5236
04:50:48,535 --> 04:50:49,172
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Unfortunately,

5237
04:50:49,869 --> 04:50:49,948
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pinagpatuloy

5238
04:50:50,625 --> 04:50:51,601
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: at pinalala pa

5239
04:50:51,601 --> 04:50:53,831
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng Marcos Jr.

5240
04:50:54,030 --> 04:50:54,707
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: administration

5241
04:50:54,707 --> 04:50:56,500
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: katulad nang sa kaso

5242
04:50:56,500 --> 04:50:57,256
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: ng DOJ.

5243
04:50:58,331 --> 04:50:58,829
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Tama po ba?

5244
04:50:58,889 --> 04:50:59,964
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Walang kapangtay tong

5245
04:50:59,964 --> 04:51:01,896
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 1.5 billion

5246
04:51:01,896 --> 04:51:04,006
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na confidential funds nyo

5247
04:51:04,006 --> 04:51:04,843
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: in 2025.

5248
04:51:05,420 --> 04:51:05,958
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: That is a

5249
04:51:05,958 --> 04:51:06,874
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: historic high.

5250
04:51:06,953 --> 04:51:07,133
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Correct?

5251
04:51:08,069 --> 04:51:09,204
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Base po sa records,

5252
04:51:09,323 --> 04:51:09,562
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Sir Honor.

5253
04:51:09,841 --> 04:51:10,239
DOJ Secretary Fredderick A. Vida: Correct.

5254
04:51:10,578 --> 04:51:11,414
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Times 10.

5255
04:51:11,912 --> 04:51:12,210
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: So,

5256
04:51:12,210 --> 04:51:14,640
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: malala na po ito,

5257
04:51:14,779 --> 04:51:15,297
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Mr. Chair.

5258
04:51:15,436 --> 04:51:16,372
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Let's bring back,

5259
04:51:16,611 --> 04:51:16,989
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

5260
04:51:17,129 --> 04:51:18,045
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: rationality

5261
04:51:18,045 --> 04:51:20,016
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to the budgeting

5262
04:51:20,016 --> 04:51:20,852
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of agencies.

5263
04:51:21,310 --> 04:51:21,868
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Hindi pwedeng

5264
04:51:21,868 --> 04:51:23,302
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dahil sabihin mo

5265
04:51:23,302 --> 04:51:24,377
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: national security

5266
04:51:24,377 --> 04:51:25,193
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: or,

5267
04:51:25,631 --> 04:51:25,930
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

5268
04:51:26,049 --> 04:51:26,886
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: law enforcement

5269
04:51:26,886 --> 04:51:27,662
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: and so on,

5270
04:51:27,782 --> 04:51:28,339
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential

5271
04:51:28,339 --> 04:51:28,837
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: intelligence.

5272
04:51:30,430 --> 04:51:30,729
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Pwede,

5273
04:51:31,286 --> 04:51:32,202
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: I would,

5274
04:51:32,441 --> 04:51:33,317
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: kung may procurement

5275
04:51:33,317 --> 04:51:34,014
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: na kailangan,

5276
04:51:34,194 --> 04:51:34,791
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: hindi naman pong

5277
04:51:34,791 --> 04:51:35,528
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: dumaan to sa,

5278
04:51:35,946 --> 04:51:36,304
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you know,

5279
04:51:36,882 --> 04:51:38,076
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: you can classify

5280
04:51:38,076 --> 04:51:39,630
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: what needs to be

5281
04:51:39,630 --> 04:51:40,207
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: classified,

5282
04:51:40,207 --> 04:51:41,143
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: pero hindi pwede

5283
04:51:41,143 --> 04:51:41,720
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: yung parang

5284
04:51:41,720 --> 04:51:43,333
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: blanket exemptions

5285
04:51:43,333 --> 04:51:45,145
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: on massive amounts.

5286
04:51:46,101 --> 04:51:46,738
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Dati medyo,

5287
04:51:47,057 --> 04:51:47,794
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sabihin mo na,

5288
04:51:47,833 --> 04:51:48,291
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: maliit pa,

5289
04:51:48,371 --> 04:51:49,188
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: reasonable pa yung

5290
04:51:49,188 --> 04:51:49,785
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: confidential.

5291
04:51:50,064 --> 04:51:50,701
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Ngayon po,

5292
04:51:50,960 --> 04:51:51,617
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: sobrang laki.

5293
04:51:52,214 --> 04:51:53,747
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: 15% of their budget

5294
04:51:53,747 --> 04:51:54,982
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to 50%

5295
04:51:54,982 --> 04:51:56,117
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: of the President's budget.

5296
04:51:57,073 --> 04:51:57,690
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: This Congress

5297
04:51:57,690 --> 04:51:59,283
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: might put a stop

5298
04:51:59,283 --> 04:52:00,338
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: to this abuse.

5299
04:52:00,518 --> 04:52:00,876
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Yun po ang

5300
04:52:00,876 --> 04:52:01,553
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: posisyon natin.

5301
04:52:01,971 --> 04:52:02,389
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Thank you.

5302
04:52:03,046 --> 04:52:03,724
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Wala na pong oras.

5303
04:52:03,823 --> 04:52:04,520
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po.

5304
04:52:05,120 --> 04:52:05,680
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you,

5305
04:52:05,844 --> 04:52:06,521
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Rep. Tinio.

5306
04:52:06,684 --> 04:52:07,758
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Maraming salamat po,

5307
04:52:07,804 --> 04:52:08,155
Rep. Antonio L. Tinio: Your Honor.

5308
04:52:08,761 --> 04:52:09,322
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Thank you po.

5309
04:52:10,442 --> 04:52:12,123
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: The concern is noted

5310
04:52:12,123 --> 04:52:12,987
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: and the

5311
04:52:13,010 --> 04:52:13,617
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Chair is here

5312
04:52:13,617 --> 04:52:15,764
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: to discuss

5313
04:52:15,764 --> 04:52:17,305
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: with everyone

5314
04:52:17,305 --> 04:52:18,589
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: in the committee

5315
04:52:18,589 --> 04:52:19,663
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: kung ano po

5316
04:52:19,663 --> 04:52:20,783
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: yung pwedeng magawa po

5317
04:52:20,783 --> 04:52:22,184
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: dito sa kantitong concern.

5318
04:52:23,234 --> 04:52:24,541
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: For the

5319
04:52:24,541 --> 04:52:25,685
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: second round,

5320
04:52:27,768 --> 04:52:28,614
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: from the minority,

5321
04:52:28,841 --> 04:52:29,934
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: we would like to

5322
04:52:29,934 --> 04:52:31,997
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: call on

5323
04:52:31,997 --> 04:52:33,544
Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing: Representative Allan Ty.

5324
04:52:36,917 --> 04:52:37,948
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you again,

5325
04:52:38,051 --> 04:52:38,856
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Chairman.

5326
04:52:39,557 --> 04:52:41,434
Rep. Allan U. Ty: To Commissioner Viado.

5327
04:52:42,012 --> 04:52:42,548
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Tapto nung po,

5328
04:52:42,610 --> 04:52:42,837
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5329
04:52:43,353 --> 04:52:43,724
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Good afternoon.

5330
04:52:45,663 --> 04:52:46,921
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let me be

5331
04:52:46,921 --> 04:52:48,737
Rep. Allan U. Ty: project specific,

5332
04:52:49,087 --> 04:52:49,355
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner.

5333
04:52:49,355 --> 04:52:49,582
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

5334
04:52:50,469 --> 04:52:50,882
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under the

5335
04:52:50,902 --> 04:52:52,635
Rep. Allan U. Ty: General Appropriation Act

5336
04:52:52,635 --> 04:52:55,214
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of Fiscal Year 2024,

5337
04:52:55,647 --> 04:52:56,410
Rep. Allan U. Ty: there's a program

5338
04:52:56,410 --> 04:52:57,730
Rep. Allan U. Ty: enhancement of

5339
04:52:57,730 --> 04:52:58,720
Rep. Allan U. Ty: border management

5340
04:52:58,720 --> 04:53:00,783
Rep. Allan U. Ty: information system.

5341
04:53:01,278 --> 04:53:02,557
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much was allocated?

5342
04:53:06,394 --> 04:53:07,384
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I believe that's

5343
04:53:07,384 --> 04:53:09,261
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 1.9 billion,

5344
04:53:10,272 --> 04:53:10,643
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5345
04:53:11,716 --> 04:53:12,706
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Based on my record,

5346
04:53:12,974 --> 04:53:13,366
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner,

5347
04:53:13,779 --> 04:53:14,707
Rep. Allan U. Ty: the amount is

5348
04:53:14,707 --> 04:53:16,192
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2.6 billion.

5349
04:53:16,687 --> 04:53:17,966
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you please refer to

5350
04:53:17,966 --> 04:53:19,575
Rep. Allan U. Ty: GAA 2024?

5351
04:53:21,555 --> 04:53:23,659
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If I may refer to this.

5352
04:53:24,154 --> 04:53:41,471
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

5353
04:53:41,616 --> 04:53:43,452
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung sa E-Gates po,

5354
04:53:43,761 --> 04:53:45,721
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that's 1.9 billion.

5355
04:53:46,216 --> 04:53:48,279
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yung 700 million po

5356
04:53:48,279 --> 04:53:49,516
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pertains to

5357
04:53:49,516 --> 04:53:51,249
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: information,

5358
04:53:51,600 --> 04:53:53,023
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: computerization and technology

5359
04:53:53,023 --> 04:53:56,262
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: project na related din po

5360
04:53:56,262 --> 04:53:56,839
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa E-Gates,

5361
04:53:56,942 --> 04:53:57,169
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5362
04:53:57,891 --> 04:53:59,232
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So it is under one

5363
04:53:59,232 --> 04:54:00,387
Rep. Allan U. Ty: program,

5364
04:54:00,697 --> 04:54:01,295
Rep. Allan U. Ty: am I correct?

5365
04:54:05,503 --> 04:54:07,050
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It pertains to one program,

5366
04:54:07,153 --> 04:54:07,401
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5367
04:54:07,896 --> 04:54:08,226
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

5368
04:54:08,680 --> 04:54:09,711
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for

5369
04:54:09,711 --> 04:54:11,237
Rep. Allan U. Ty: GAA 2025?

5370
04:54:11,836 --> 04:54:13,135
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much was allocated?

5371
04:54:13,135 --> 04:54:14,723
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under the same program?

5372
04:54:15,012 --> 04:54:15,198
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2025,

5373
04:54:37,270 --> 04:54:38,198
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

5374
04:54:38,322 --> 04:54:40,261
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: it's 2.1 billion,

5375
04:54:40,405 --> 04:54:40,694
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5376
04:54:41,210 --> 04:54:41,993
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you please again

5377
04:54:41,993 --> 04:54:43,479
Rep. Allan U. Ty: refer to the GAA?

5378
04:54:43,871 --> 04:54:44,943
Rep. Allan U. Ty: It's the amount

5379
04:54:44,943 --> 04:54:45,830
Rep. Allan U. Ty: reflected

5380
04:54:45,830 --> 04:54:48,409
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is 3.825 billion.

5381
04:54:54,875 --> 04:54:55,412
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

5382
04:54:55,494 --> 04:54:56,402
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that includes

5383
04:54:56,402 --> 04:54:57,186
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the E-Gates

5384
04:54:57,186 --> 04:54:57,970
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: phase 2

5385
04:54:57,970 --> 04:54:59,125
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of 1.3,

5386
04:54:59,290 --> 04:54:59,641
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5387
04:55:00,548 --> 04:55:00,816
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Correct.

5388
04:55:00,878 --> 04:55:01,703
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So the total amount

5389
04:55:01,703 --> 04:55:02,673
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is 3.8,

5390
04:55:02,735 --> 04:55:03,354
Rep. Allan U. Ty: am I correct,

5391
04:55:04,096 --> 04:55:04,632
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Commissioner?

5392
04:55:04,962 --> 04:55:05,458
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: That's correct,

5393
04:55:05,561 --> 04:55:05,664
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

5394
04:55:05,767 --> 04:55:06,303
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 3.8.

5395
04:55:06,345 --> 04:55:06,943
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So we are talking

5396
04:55:06,943 --> 04:55:08,077
Rep. Allan U. Ty: about one program,

5397
04:55:08,263 --> 04:55:08,552
Rep. Allan U. Ty: all right?

5398
04:55:09,150 --> 04:55:10,037
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Based on the GAA,

5399
04:55:10,037 --> 04:55:12,223
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that's how it is presented.

5400
04:55:13,049 --> 04:55:13,832
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for

5401
04:55:13,832 --> 04:55:14,864
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2026?

5402
04:55:15,153 --> 04:55:16,225
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much is allocated?

5403
04:55:24,404 --> 04:55:25,539
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2026,

5404
04:55:25,766 --> 04:55:29,293
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: it's 697,542,000,

5405
04:55:29,293 --> 04:55:29,561
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5406
04:55:29,932 --> 04:55:30,634
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

5407
04:55:31,479 --> 04:55:32,985
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So in 2024,

5408
04:55:33,336 --> 04:55:34,718
Rep. Allan U. Ty: how much was obligated?

5409
04:55:35,811 --> 04:55:36,451
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much?

5410
04:55:37,688 --> 04:55:46,858
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: In 2024,

5411
04:55:47,126 --> 04:55:47,518
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

5412
04:55:47,662 --> 04:55:48,714
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: almost 98%

5413
04:55:48,714 --> 04:55:49,457
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: was obligated.

5414
04:55:49,580 --> 04:55:50,550
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How much was released

5415
04:55:50,550 --> 04:55:52,778
Rep. Allan U. Ty: out of the 2.6 billion?

5416
04:55:58,688 --> 04:55:59,224
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2024.

5417
04:55:59,636 --> 04:56:14,313
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2024?

5418
04:56:15,984 --> 04:56:17,366
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Let me check the figures

5419
04:56:17,366 --> 04:56:18,026
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: first, Your Honor.

5420
04:56:18,356 --> 04:56:50,267
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: I may ask you

5421
04:56:50,288 --> 04:56:50,680
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and then I'll...

5422
04:56:50,680 --> 04:56:53,227
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Sorry, Your Honor,

5423
04:56:53,289 --> 04:56:54,135
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for taking up your time.

5424
04:56:54,238 --> 04:56:55,125
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: If we may be allowed

5425
04:56:55,125 --> 04:56:57,745
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to give the figures

5426
04:56:57,745 --> 04:56:58,570
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: later, Your Honor,

5427
04:56:59,024 --> 04:57:02,118
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for 2024, Your Honor.

5428
04:57:02,366 --> 04:57:03,335
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What do you mean later,

5429
04:57:03,624 --> 04:57:03,933
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Commissioner?

5430
04:57:04,531 --> 04:57:05,418
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We still have to go

5431
04:57:05,418 --> 04:57:06,079
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: through our records.

5432
04:57:07,646 --> 04:57:08,368
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: My apologies

5433
04:57:08,368 --> 04:57:09,358
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: for making you wait,

5434
04:57:09,503 --> 04:57:09,606
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5435
04:57:09,957 --> 04:57:10,596
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Oh, no, it's all right.

5436
04:57:11,009 --> 04:57:11,813
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So I can ask

5437
04:57:11,813 --> 04:57:12,659
Rep. Allan U. Ty: other questions?

5438
04:57:13,113 --> 04:57:13,649
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

5439
04:57:13,731 --> 04:57:14,082
Rep. Allan U. Ty: All right.

5440
04:57:14,330 --> 04:57:14,825
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So how about

5441
04:57:14,825 --> 04:57:17,114
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for 2026?

5442
04:57:18,146 --> 04:57:20,497
Rep. Allan U. Ty: For 2026?

5443
04:57:27,923 --> 04:57:28,377
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Obligated.

5444
04:57:28,707 --> 04:57:29,821
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Yeah, obligated.

5445
04:57:29,821 --> 04:57:33,049
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ay, for 2026,

5446
04:57:33,194 --> 04:57:33,709
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: walang kusay.

5447
04:57:33,813 --> 04:57:34,803
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Kuna kusay obligated.

5448
04:57:39,506 --> 04:57:41,032
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2026, Your Honor,

5449
04:57:41,280 --> 04:57:43,755
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we have not...

5450
04:57:43,755 --> 04:57:44,952
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: It has not been

5451
04:57:44,952 --> 04:57:45,839
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: obligated, Your Honor.

5452
04:57:46,169 --> 04:57:46,705
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Zero pa po.

5453
04:57:47,200 --> 04:57:47,922
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Capital outlay.

5454
04:57:47,922 --> 04:57:49,717
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Capital outlay, Your Honor.

5455
04:57:50,088 --> 04:57:50,418
Rep. Allan U. Ty: All right.

5456
04:57:50,500 --> 04:57:51,181
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So do you already

5457
04:57:51,181 --> 04:57:51,800
Rep. Allan U. Ty: have a figure

5458
04:57:51,800 --> 04:57:52,708
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for 2025?

5459
04:57:54,296 --> 04:57:55,266
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: For 2025,

5460
04:58:02,372 --> 04:58:03,609
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: no obligation po

5461
04:58:03,609 --> 04:58:04,208
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: also, Your Honor.

5462
04:58:07,106 --> 04:58:07,725
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you refer

5463
04:58:07,725 --> 04:58:08,900
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to your proposed

5464
04:58:08,900 --> 04:58:09,973
Rep. Allan U. Ty: expenditure program

5465
04:58:09,973 --> 04:58:11,768
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for fiscal year 2027?

5466
04:58:12,077 --> 04:58:13,026
Rep. Allan U. Ty: In 2025,

5467
04:58:13,294 --> 04:58:13,934
Rep. Allan U. Ty: appropriation

5468
04:58:13,934 --> 04:58:14,243
Rep. Allan U. Ty: is not required.

5469
04:58:14,264 --> 04:58:16,430
Rep. Allan U. Ty: You have an

5470
04:58:16,430 --> 04:58:17,420
Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated

5471
04:58:17,420 --> 04:58:18,245
Rep. Allan U. Ty: allotment of

5472
04:58:18,245 --> 04:58:19,895
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 4.071.

5473
04:58:20,246 --> 04:58:21,648
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can you confirm?

5474
04:58:22,927 --> 04:58:23,856
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We confirm, Your Honor.

5475
04:58:24,227 --> 04:58:25,403
Rep. Allan U. Ty: And this pertains

5476
04:58:25,403 --> 04:58:26,001
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to this,

5477
04:58:26,125 --> 04:58:26,620
Rep. Allan U. Ty: the program

5478
04:58:26,620 --> 04:58:27,775
Rep. Allan U. Ty: that I just mentioned,

5479
04:58:28,043 --> 04:58:28,765
Rep. Allan U. Ty: enhancement

5480
04:58:28,765 --> 04:58:30,291
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of border

5481
04:58:30,291 --> 04:58:31,013
Rep. Allan U. Ty: management

5482
04:58:31,013 --> 04:58:32,272
Rep. Allan U. Ty: information system?

5483
04:58:32,581 --> 04:58:33,901
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, it pertains

5484
04:58:33,901 --> 04:58:34,396
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: to that, Your Honor.

5485
04:58:35,366 --> 04:58:36,129
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Also, in

5486
04:58:36,129 --> 04:58:36,954
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 2026,

5487
04:58:38,811 --> 04:58:39,553
Rep. Allan U. Ty: you have an

5488
04:58:39,553 --> 04:58:40,461
Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated

5489
04:58:40,461 --> 04:58:41,513
Rep. Allan U. Ty: appropriation

5490
04:58:41,513 --> 04:58:42,111
Rep. Allan U. Ty: sa

5491
04:58:42,111 --> 04:58:45,205
Rep. Allan U. Ty: , under

5492
04:58:45,205 --> 04:58:46,319
Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated

5493
04:58:46,319 --> 04:58:47,124
Rep. Allan U. Ty: allotment of

5494
04:58:47,124 --> 04:58:48,609
Rep. Allan U. Ty: 3.558

5495
04:58:48,609 --> 04:58:49,434
Rep. Allan U. Ty: billion.

5496
04:58:49,764 --> 04:58:50,672
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Am I correct?

5497
04:58:51,373 --> 04:58:52,425
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, we confirm that,

5498
04:58:52,487 --> 04:58:52,693
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5499
04:58:53,498 --> 04:58:54,075
Rep. Allan U. Ty: May I ask,

5500
04:58:54,178 --> 04:58:54,777
Rep. Allan U. Ty: what's the reason

5501
04:58:54,777 --> 04:58:56,303
Rep. Allan U. Ty: behind the

5502
04:58:56,303 --> 04:58:57,561
Rep. Allan U. Ty: unobligated allotment

5503
04:58:57,561 --> 04:58:58,655
Rep. Allan U. Ty: for this particular

5504
04:58:58,655 --> 04:58:59,232
Rep. Allan U. Ty: program?

5505
04:59:03,131 --> 04:59:04,121
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

5506
04:59:04,616 --> 04:59:05,256
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Bulk of it

5507
04:59:05,256 --> 04:59:06,019
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa EGIDS po,

5508
04:59:06,143 --> 04:59:06,535
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5509
04:59:07,855 --> 04:59:08,535
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The bulk of it

5510
04:59:08,535 --> 04:59:09,237
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: pertains to the

5511
04:59:09,237 --> 04:59:09,856
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: EGIDS project,

5512
04:59:10,062 --> 04:59:10,165
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5513
04:59:10,165 --> 04:59:11,217
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But what are the

5514
04:59:11,217 --> 04:59:12,207
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: reasons why it's

5515
04:59:12,207 --> 04:59:12,743
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: still unobligated?

5516
04:59:13,053 --> 04:59:14,229
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: To this date?

5517
04:59:14,559 --> 04:59:15,116
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

5518
04:59:15,363 --> 04:59:16,601
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as I've stated po,

5519
04:59:16,766 --> 04:59:17,591
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: no latter part of

5520
04:59:17,591 --> 04:59:18,272
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: 2024,

5521
04:59:19,200 --> 04:59:20,355
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nag-declare po kami

5522
04:59:20,355 --> 04:59:21,263
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng failure of bidding.

5523
04:59:22,005 --> 04:59:23,264
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So, kami po ay,

5524
04:59:23,635 --> 04:59:24,543
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nagkaroon po nung

5525
04:59:24,543 --> 04:59:25,182
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we went through

5526
04:59:25,182 --> 04:59:27,719
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: a rebidding process.

5527
04:59:28,235 --> 04:59:29,596
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Nung 2025 na lang po

5528
04:59:29,596 --> 04:59:31,412
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na yan natapos.

5529
04:59:32,175 --> 04:59:32,422
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: So,

5530
04:59:33,351 --> 04:59:33,887
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yan po ay

5531
04:59:33,887 --> 04:59:34,630
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: several months,

5532
04:59:34,774 --> 04:59:35,558
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: admittedly,

5533
04:59:35,599 --> 04:59:35,847
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor,

5534
04:59:35,929 --> 04:59:36,878
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: na-delay because of

5535
04:59:36,878 --> 04:59:38,594
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that issue.

5536
04:59:39,195 --> 04:59:39,655
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Ayan po ang,

5537
04:59:39,920 --> 04:59:40,115
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but,

5538
04:59:40,274 --> 04:59:41,264
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as I've stated,

5539
04:59:41,406 --> 04:59:42,060
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we commit to

5540
04:59:42,060 --> 04:59:42,962
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: make a full obligation

5541
04:59:42,980 --> 04:59:44,324
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: by November

5542
04:59:44,324 --> 04:59:45,226
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: of this year po.

5543
04:59:45,297 --> 04:59:46,164
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Tatapusin na po namin yan,

5544
04:59:46,199 --> 04:59:46,500
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5545
04:59:46,871 --> 04:59:47,614
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: As a matter of fact,

5546
04:59:47,667 --> 04:59:48,163
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we have been

5547
04:59:48,163 --> 04:59:49,171
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: conducting meetings

5548
04:59:49,171 --> 04:59:50,586
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: every week po

5549
04:59:50,586 --> 04:59:52,001
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para ho makapagbigay lang po

5550
04:59:52,001 --> 04:59:52,779
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: ng report sa akin

5551
04:59:52,779 --> 04:59:54,406
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: sa Bureau po

5552
04:59:54,406 --> 04:59:54,919
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung mga

5553
04:59:54,919 --> 04:59:55,821
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: nanunungkulan

5554
04:59:55,821 --> 04:59:56,741
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: para ho matapos na namin

5555
04:59:56,741 --> 04:59:57,431
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: yung obligasyon namin,

5556
04:59:57,502 --> 04:59:57,732
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor.

5557
04:59:57,988 --> 05:00:04,302
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Is this program different from what Congressman Erice mentioned a while ago?

5558
05:00:04,373 --> 05:00:05,063
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

5559
05:00:05,063 --> 05:00:09,856
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The E-Gates project is different from the Enhanced Border Control System

5560
05:00:09,856 --> 05:00:14,119
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: that is being proposed under the Public-Private Partnership arrangement.

5561
05:00:16,224 --> 05:00:18,541
Rep. Allan U. Ty: May we request everyone to please settle down?

5562
05:00:21,680 --> 05:00:23,378
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you make the distinction, Commissioner?

5563
05:00:23,803 --> 05:00:26,120
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Your Honor, with the E-Gates project,

5564
05:00:26,120 --> 05:00:31,745
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we aim to integrate that with the CAIS project.

5565
05:00:31,745 --> 05:00:34,398
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: The CAIS project is a more holistic approach

5566
05:00:34,398 --> 05:00:36,803
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: because it does not only pertain to the E-Gates,

5567
05:00:37,051 --> 05:00:40,712
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: but also to our integration with the systems of Interpol,

5568
05:00:41,137 --> 05:00:43,542
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: as well as the Advanced Passenger Information System,

5569
05:00:44,002 --> 05:00:45,842
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: and biometrics.

5570
05:00:46,142 --> 05:00:51,926
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: We also can log in to a billion facial images.

5571
05:00:52,634 --> 05:00:55,410
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we also have, under the CAIS program,

5572
05:00:55,976 --> 05:01:02,362
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: the reactive screening based on facial contortions

5573
05:01:02,910 --> 05:01:06,023
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: or in reaction to certain forms of questioning.

5574
05:01:06,430 --> 05:01:09,348
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: And we can also access open source intelligence.

5575
05:01:09,808 --> 05:01:13,841
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Not only can we access the 194 countries that are members of Interpol,

5576
05:01:13,876 --> 05:01:14,584
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: their databases,

5577
05:01:14,584 --> 05:01:16,176
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we can access that.

5578
05:01:16,600 --> 05:01:19,006
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: But also, we can access,

5579
05:01:19,165 --> 05:01:22,030
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: we can access any information from open sources,

5580
05:01:22,189 --> 05:01:23,197
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: meaning over the internet.

5581
05:01:24,206 --> 05:01:26,045
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Facebook, that can be accessed, Your Honor.

5582
05:01:26,841 --> 05:01:28,663
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So this is under the PPP program?

5583
05:01:28,840 --> 05:01:29,317
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Yes, Your Honor.

5584
05:01:29,583 --> 05:01:31,741
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Commissioner Viado.

5585
05:01:31,917 --> 05:01:32,643
BI Commissioner Joel Anthony M. Viado: Thank you, Your Honor.

5586
05:01:32,766 --> 05:01:34,606
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let me go to LRA Administrator.

5587
05:01:36,649 --> 05:01:37,799
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Administrator,

5588
05:01:39,355 --> 05:01:41,920
Rep. Allan U. Ty: in your proposed 2027 budget,

5589
05:01:42,380 --> 05:01:43,211
Rep. Allan U. Ty: proposed budget,

5590
05:01:43,600 --> 05:01:46,678
Rep. Allan U. Ty: how much is under special account?

5591
05:01:46,678 --> 05:01:51,376
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: What budget?

5592
05:01:51,436 --> 05:02:01,810
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, it's $1.8 billion.

5593
05:02:03,329 --> 05:02:05,328
Rep. Allan U. Ty: $1.780 billion?

5594
05:02:05,328 --> 05:02:06,468
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor.

5595
05:02:06,468 --> 05:02:09,946
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What is the source of your special account in the general fund, Mr. Administrator?

5596
05:02:09,946 --> 05:02:14,543
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, the special account is Fund 151.

5597
05:02:14,543 --> 05:02:20,060
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: It is a special account provided by PD 1529,

5598
05:02:20,060 --> 05:02:26,836
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: where, from our collections, we are allowed to retain 20% of our earnings, Paul.

5599
05:02:26,836 --> 05:02:27,776
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor.

5600
05:02:28,116 --> 05:02:29,095
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Please settle down.

5601
05:02:32,503 --> 05:02:33,143
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Quiet, please.

5602
05:02:36,141 --> 05:02:38,480
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Where does the 80% of the collection go?

5603
05:02:38,700 --> 05:02:40,699
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about the balance of 80%?

5604
05:02:40,819 --> 05:02:41,518
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Where does it go?

5605
05:02:41,518 --> 05:02:45,256
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, the 80% goes directly to the National Treasury,

5606
05:02:45,656 --> 05:02:52,392
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: and we retain 20% subject to the approval of the DBM on the releases of the 20%.

5607
05:02:52,392 --> 05:02:57,210
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So the 20% in the amount of 1.7,

5608
05:02:57,830 --> 05:03:00,308
Rep. Allan U. Ty: can we use that amount?

5609
05:03:00,308 --> 05:03:06,185
Rep. Allan U. Ty: To pay for titling of free patents issued by the DENR?

5610
05:03:06,185 --> 05:03:18,978
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, the 1.7 billion is 15% only out of the 20% it represents.

5611
05:03:18,978 --> 05:03:52,240
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, we believe that it can be used for it.

5612
05:03:52,240 --> 05:03:57,717
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: The coverage of the special account refers to MOOE accounts and capital outlay.

5613
05:03:58,436 --> 05:04:06,672
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Because, Administrator, there are thousands of unclaimed free patents before the Registry of Deeds all over the Philippines.

5614
05:04:06,672 --> 05:04:15,707
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So, probably, can you account for the free patents, unclaimed free patents, in all the Registry of Deeds all over the Philippines?

5615
05:04:15,707 --> 05:04:17,106
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor, you are correct.

5616
05:04:17,106 --> 05:04:21,724
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have made that observation in our visits to the different Registers of Deeds.

5617
05:04:21,724 --> 05:04:27,860
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have observed several, if not thousands, of unregistered patents previously.

5618
05:04:27,860 --> 05:04:38,615
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: This was covered by an agreement with the DENR, which paid for the registration of the patents.

5619
05:04:38,615 --> 05:04:42,612
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Subsequently, they removed that funding.

5620
05:04:42,612 --> 05:04:54,966
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So, perhaps with the approval of the DBM, we can utilize it in registering some of these, or all the remaining patents issued.

5621
05:04:54,966 --> 05:04:57,684
Rep. Allan U. Ty: To be taken from the special account?

5622
05:04:57,844 --> 05:05:02,581
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor, if we can maximize the utilization to 20%.

5623
05:05:02,581 --> 05:05:03,661
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

5624
05:05:03,661 --> 05:05:09,678
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So, on the other matter, Mr. Administrator, what is the legal responsibility of the

5625
05:05:09,678 --> 05:05:15,714
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Registry of Deeds and the LRA for the safekeeping maintenance of Certificate of Titles?

5626
05:05:15,714 --> 05:05:16,614
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Please, quiet down.

5627
05:05:16,614 --> 05:05:32,685
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honour, under PD 1529, the function of the main function of the Registers of Deeds is the main repository of all the

5628
05:05:32,725 --> 05:05:34,584
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: titles and supporting documents.

5629
05:05:34,844 --> 05:05:36,343
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So it's a registry of deeds?

5630
05:05:36,523 --> 05:05:37,063
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor.

5631
05:05:37,502 --> 05:05:44,639
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Is the registry of deeds required to prepare an inventory of titles which have been lost,

5632
05:05:44,958 --> 05:05:48,436
Rep. Allan U. Ty: destroyed, or rendered unusable by deterioration?

5633
05:05:48,436 --> 05:05:56,372
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, under PD 1529, the RDs are obliged to conduct an inventory annually.

5634
05:05:56,372 --> 05:06:03,748
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I would suppose that would also include all titles, whether it has been lost or damaged in their custody.

5635
05:06:05,227 --> 05:06:13,763
Rep. Allan U. Ty: In case of lost administrator of title, who has the legal responsibility for judicial reconstitution?

5636
05:06:14,322 --> 05:06:19,420
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, unfortunately, when the title is lost, the RD copy is lost.

5637
05:06:19,420 --> 05:06:25,176
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Under RA 26, as amended by RA 6732,

5638
05:06:25,176 --> 05:06:30,054
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the responsibility is given to the owner of the title.

5639
05:06:30,633 --> 05:06:34,431
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: The responsibility was taken away from the RD.

5640
05:06:34,871 --> 05:06:39,609
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Previously, the RD was allowed to initiate reconstitution cases,

5641
05:06:39,828 --> 05:06:48,164
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: but because of the passage of the law and because of a Supreme Court decision involving the RD of Malabon or Mandaluyong,

5642
05:06:48,164 --> 05:06:54,161
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the Supreme Court said that the RDs cannot undertake the filing.

5643
05:06:55,160 --> 05:06:56,319
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Under the reconstitution case.

5644
05:06:57,679 --> 05:07:03,376
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Sir Administrator, is there no exception to the rule under RA 6732?

5645
05:07:03,695 --> 05:07:08,553
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Under RA 26, as amended by RA 6732,

5646
05:07:09,772 --> 05:07:14,050
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: administrative reconstitution can be undertaken by the LRA

5647
05:07:14,330 --> 05:07:24,884
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: if the Administrator has evaluated that at least 10% of the titles in the RD has been lost,

5648
05:07:25,144 --> 05:07:29,741
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But in no case should it be less than 500 titles.

5649
05:07:30,601 --> 05:07:40,895
Rep. Allan U. Ty: As you mentioned earlier, Mr. Administrator, you said the Registry of Deeds are required or mandated to have an inventory of lost titles.

5650
05:07:41,355 --> 05:07:46,652
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So based on the submission, did the Registry of Deeds make the submission?

5651
05:07:47,392 --> 05:07:51,030
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: They are required to conduct an inventory which should also include all lost titles.

5652
05:07:51,030 --> 05:07:59,805
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Some of the RDs have complied with the provisions of the law, and we are closely monitoring also the other RDs, Your Honor.

5653
05:08:00,245 --> 05:08:18,295
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let's say in case the administrative threshold is not met, what can your office do to assist those lost titles, individual lost titles,

5654
05:08:18,295 --> 05:08:20,054
Rep. Allan U. Ty: considering that the loss?

5655
05:08:21,013 --> 05:08:25,671
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Loss was in the Registry of Deeds, am I not correct?

5656
05:08:26,390 --> 05:08:37,564
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, it is quite unfortunate that the burden is given to the registered owner in undertaking the registration or reconstitution of lost titles.

5657
05:08:37,964 --> 05:08:47,179
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And on our part, what we can do is only provide them with the assistance of providing some of the necessary documents that they will need

5658
05:08:47,179 --> 05:08:50,977
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: in filing the appropriate constitution case with the courts, Your Honor.

5659
05:08:50,997 --> 05:08:52,996
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Let's go to Friar Lands.

5660
05:08:52,996 --> 05:09:03,990
Rep. Allan U. Ty: In case of loss of Friar Lands or has been lost or destroyed, and the DNR issued subsequent deed of conveyance,

5661
05:09:03,990 --> 05:09:10,986
Rep. Allan U. Ty: what will happen to the registration of the deed of conveyance before the Registry of Deeds?

5662
05:09:10,986 --> 05:09:12,985
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Thank you, Your Honor, for bringing it up.

5663
05:09:12,985 --> 05:09:16,983
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have several Friar Lands across the country.

5664
05:09:16,983 --> 05:09:17,982
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have the OCDC.

5665
05:09:20,961 --> 05:09:25,958
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We have the OCDC, which is supposedly in the custody of the Registers of Deeds.

5666
05:09:25,958 --> 05:09:29,956
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And the owner's copy is supposedly with the LMB.

5667
05:09:29,956 --> 05:09:41,949
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: It is unfortunate that some of the RDs have been destroyed or damaged, which included the titles also.

5668
05:09:41,949 --> 05:09:47,946
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And it is also unfortunate that LMB has also been burned.

5669
05:09:47,946 --> 05:09:50,425
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Their head office in Binondo was burned.

5670
05:09:50,425 --> 05:09:55,422
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So they have also lost some of the owner's copies of these titles.

5671
05:09:55,422 --> 05:10:03,417
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But I would like to inform Your Honor that we are currently talking to the LMB,

5672
05:10:03,417 --> 05:10:08,415
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: since they have lifted the moratorium on the issuance of deeds of conveyance,

5673
05:10:08,415 --> 05:10:18,409
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: to explore administrative remedies so that we can also help the awardees or claimants of these Friar Lands.

5674
05:10:18,409 --> 05:10:19,409
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What administrative remedies?

5675
05:10:19,409 --> 05:10:23,407
Rep. Allan U. Ty: What administrative remedies you are referring to on the part of the DNR?

5676
05:10:23,407 --> 05:10:26,405
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We will still be discussing with the LMB, Your Honor.

5677
05:10:26,405 --> 05:10:33,401
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: In fact, we were supposed to have a meeting last week, but because of the weather, it did not permit it.

5678
05:10:33,401 --> 05:10:35,400
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: But we will be meeting with them soon.

5679
05:10:35,400 --> 05:10:46,350
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Perhaps, Your Honor, also with your help, you can also talk to the LMB to meet with us soon on this matter.

5680
05:10:46,360 --> 05:10:52,230
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I think the DNR is scheduled.

5681
05:10:52,240 --> 05:10:56,150
Rep. Allan U. Ty: We will have a budget hearing on Wednesday.

5682
05:10:56,160 --> 05:11:02,870
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Maybe, Administrator, if you can commit to us that you can be present here on Wednesday in the afternoon.

5683
05:11:02,878 --> 05:11:04,628
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: I will come, Your Honor.

5684
05:11:04,638 --> 05:11:06,120
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Administrator.

5685
05:11:15,000 --> 05:11:18,430
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Okay, I will have my third round.

5686
05:11:18,440 --> 05:11:22,230
Rep. Allan U. Ty: I defer to Kong Reni.

5687
05:11:22,240 --> 05:11:23,270
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Your Honor.

5688
05:11:23,280 --> 05:11:24,430
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Kong Alan.

5689
05:11:24,440 --> 05:11:30,270
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line from the minority again, Rep. Renee Co.

5690
05:11:30,280 --> 05:11:31,670
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you very much, Chair.

5691
05:11:31,680 --> 05:11:35,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: And thank you again for DOJ for continuing to be here.

5692
05:11:35,400 --> 05:11:45,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: My next questions would be in relation to the supposed closure or nearing closure of the New Bilibid Prison.

5693
05:11:45,760 --> 05:11:53,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So it's been on the news that the Bureau of Corrections transferred 15,730 inmates ahead of the closure.

5694
05:11:53,400 --> 05:11:58,548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Puwede pong matanong, since this is a huge endeavor,

5695
05:11:58,558 --> 05:12:02,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Logistically, ano pong budgetary provisions?

5696
05:12:03,000 --> 05:12:17,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Paano po napondohan ng DOJ 'yung pagpapalipat po ng mga inmates, mass transfer operation, transportation, security, etc. po?

5697
05:12:17,280 --> 05:12:26,350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: With the permission of the Secretary, Mr. Chair, the transfer of the PDLs, ginagawa po 'yan yearly.

5698
05:12:26,360 --> 05:12:34,470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And it's with the support of the budget of Bucor using its MOE.

5699
05:12:34,480 --> 05:12:43,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: So pag nag-transfer po ng isang PDL, it costs us about 15,000 to 20,000.

5700
05:12:43,240 --> 05:12:52,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And that's the way we are slowly transferring ng mga PDL.

5701
05:12:52,920 --> 05:12:56,150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: And of course, alam niyo naman po sa New Bilibid Prison,

5702
05:12:56,160 --> 05:13:03,150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na 300% congested siya nung dumating ako diyan,

5703
05:13:03,160 --> 05:13:09,510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and now we have reduced it to almost 200% congestion na lang po.

5704
05:13:09,520 --> 05:13:23,150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Puwede po bang ma-confirm, Mr. Chair, na may mga PDLs na mata-transfer to, aside from itong penal colony in Zamboanga?

5705
05:13:23,160 --> 05:13:24,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron daw pong reports na lilipat din po sa Sablayan, Mindoro;

5706
05:13:25,000 --> 05:13:32,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Iwahig, Palawan; San Ramon, Zamboanga del Sur;

5707
05:13:32,480 --> 05:13:35,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Abuyog, Leyte; at saka po sa Davao del Norte.

5708
05:13:35,040 --> 05:13:35,590
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Tama po ba?

5709
05:13:35,600 --> 05:13:40,230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So malilipat din galing New Bilibid papunta dito sa ibang mga penal colonies?

5710
05:13:40,240 --> 05:13:42,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes po.

5711
05:13:42,200 --> 05:13:45,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, puwede po bang makakuha ng full list?

5712
05:13:45,280 --> 05:13:52,830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yes. We will submit to you the number of PDLs transferred for each operating prison and penal farm

5713
05:13:52,840 --> 05:13:54,830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: outside the

5714
05:13:54,840 --> 05:13:55,948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: NBP.

5715
05:13:55,958 --> 05:13:57,150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Okay.

5716
05:13:57,160 --> 05:14:04,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: 'Yung concern ko po, Mr. Chair, ay, well, ang DOJ, ang BuCor, nagsabi that they are observant of the Mandela Rules,

5717
05:14:05,000 --> 05:14:13,788
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: the Nelson Mandela Rules, ahead of any legislation, any parang law that would really mandate 'yung pag-observe noon.

5718
05:14:13,798 --> 05:14:21,708
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: But Rule 59 says that prisoners should be assigned to prisons close to their homes or their places of social rehabilitation.

5719
05:14:21,718 --> 05:14:24,070
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So ang concern ko po, 'yung mga lilipat,

5720
05:14:24,080 --> 05:14:27,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: baka po malayo doon sa kanilang mga pamilya, lalo na kung galing Luzon,

5721
05:14:27,760 --> 05:14:31,628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: tapos ililipat po sa Davao del Norte or sa Zamboanga del Sur, malalayo.

5722
05:14:31,638 --> 05:14:37,948
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Meron po bang way para i-ensure na hindi naman ganito—hindi malalayo sa pamilya,

5723
05:14:37,958 --> 05:14:42,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: from legal counsel or even support networks kung saan po sila matatagpuan?

5724
05:14:42,840 --> 05:14:43,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Based on our records,

5725
05:14:43,920 --> 05:14:45,788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na records po, yung mga

5726
05:14:45,798 --> 05:14:48,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: binibisita sa Muntinlupa,

5727
05:14:48,240 --> 05:14:50,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi po namin nililipat.

5728
05:14:50,600 --> 05:14:51,430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero yung karamihan

5729
05:14:51,440 --> 05:14:53,990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po noon, 20,000

5730
05:14:54,000 --> 05:14:55,750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pa po nandoon sa NBP,

5731
05:14:55,760 --> 05:14:57,788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: wala pong bisita.

5732
05:14:57,798 --> 05:14:59,948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya gusto rin po nilang malipat

5733
05:14:59,958 --> 05:15:02,110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dahil alam nila, mas

5734
05:15:02,120 --> 05:15:03,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: maaliwalas, mas secured,

5735
05:15:03,200 --> 05:15:04,830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mas

5736
05:15:04,840 --> 05:15:07,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: presko ang malilipatan nila

5737
05:15:07,878 --> 05:15:09,750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kesa dito po sila nandito sa

5738
05:15:09,760 --> 05:15:12,110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: NBP na nagsisiksikan.

5739
05:15:12,120 --> 05:15:13,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: At nasertify naman po ba

5740
05:15:13,840 --> 05:15:15,868
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Mr. Chair, na yung mga

5741
05:15:15,878 --> 05:15:18,190
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: lilipatang penal colonies nila,

5742
05:15:18,200 --> 05:15:20,628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: adequate habitable infrastructure,

5743
05:15:20,638 --> 05:15:22,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung nariyan, medical services,

5744
05:15:23,000 --> 05:15:23,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may staff, bago po

5745
05:15:23,760 --> 05:15:25,230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makareceive ng

5746
05:15:25,240 --> 05:15:27,990
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: influx ng thousands of inmates

5747
05:15:28,000 --> 05:15:29,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: din po kung tuloy

5748
05:15:29,760 --> 05:15:32,510
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung pagtatransfer per year.

5749
05:15:32,520 --> 05:15:34,070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Opo, Mr. Chair,

5750
05:15:34,080 --> 05:15:35,390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tinatanong po namin 'yung magiging

5751
05:15:35,400 --> 05:15:37,990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: recipient na mga kolonya

5752
05:15:38,000 --> 05:15:40,070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kung kaya nilang iabsorb.

5753
05:15:40,080 --> 05:15:41,350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: At sila naman po ang

5754
05:15:41,360 --> 05:15:42,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagsasabi sa amin na

5755
05:15:42,600 --> 05:15:45,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: puwede pa silang mag-absorb.

5756
05:15:45,240 --> 05:15:47,708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kaya't hindi naman po

5757
05:15:47,718 --> 05:15:49,070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nahihirapan yung mga

5758
05:15:49,080 --> 05:15:51,390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: tumatanggap na bagong

5759
05:15:51,400 --> 05:15:53,830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga prison and penal farms

5760
05:15:53,840 --> 05:15:55,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: outside Metro Manila.

5761
05:15:55,878 --> 05:15:57,628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: May kailangan po bang additional items

5762
05:15:57,638 --> 05:15:59,230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: or additional budget

5763
05:15:59,240 --> 05:16:01,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: para po kung anong absorption

5764
05:16:01,400 --> 05:16:03,230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung kailangan ay hindi po

5765
05:16:03,240 --> 05:16:05,548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: makompromise yung pagbigay po

5766
05:16:05,558 --> 05:16:07,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga servisyo ng mga

5767
05:16:07,440 --> 05:16:09,868
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: penal colonies sa mga inmates?

5768
05:16:09,878 --> 05:16:10,788
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Nandito po ba yun sa proposal?

5769
05:16:10,798 --> 05:16:13,110
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng Bucor?

5770
05:16:13,120 --> 05:16:14,750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Maganda pong tanong yan kasi

5771
05:16:14,760 --> 05:16:16,708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kaya ang importante yung support

5772
05:16:16,718 --> 05:16:19,310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: services. Kaya natutuwa

5773
05:16:19,320 --> 05:16:21,270
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naman po kami pag lumipat kami

5774
05:16:21,280 --> 05:16:23,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa nilipat namin yung mga PDL

5775
05:16:23,920 --> 05:16:25,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nagbibigay po

5776
05:16:25,200 --> 05:16:27,110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga sasakyan

5777
05:16:27,120 --> 05:16:29,390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para just in case na

5778
05:16:29,400 --> 05:16:30,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mangailangan ng

5779
05:16:30,878 --> 05:16:32,470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malaking hospital na

5780
05:16:32,480 --> 05:16:35,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pag-checkup nila, naitatransport

5781
05:16:35,200 --> 05:16:36,430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: naman po sila. Kaya't

5782
05:16:36,440 --> 05:16:41,390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sinisigurado po namin na

5783
05:16:41,400 --> 05:16:43,310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: hindi sila mahihirapan

5784
05:16:43,320 --> 05:16:43,670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa

5785
05:16:43,680 --> 05:16:46,948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: bagong lugar na lilipatan

5786
05:16:46,958 --> 05:16:49,628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nila. At

5787
05:16:49,638 --> 05:16:51,510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakatutok lang po kami

5788
05:16:51,520 --> 05:16:52,750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa mga bagong

5789
05:16:52,760 --> 05:16:54,830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: facilities na

5790
05:16:54,840 --> 05:16:56,150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: habang

5791
05:16:56,160 --> 05:16:58,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakoconstruct. Kasi nagsimula

5792
05:16:58,920 --> 05:17:00,990
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po tayo ng 2022

5793
05:17:01,000 --> 05:17:02,708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na construction hanggang

5794
05:17:02,718 --> 05:17:04,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ongoing ngayon.

5795
05:17:04,920 --> 05:17:06,628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: We expect by

5796
05:17:06,638 --> 05:17:08,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 2028 additional

5797
05:17:08,878 --> 05:17:10,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 11,000 plus.

5798
05:17:10,920 --> 05:17:12,788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na PDL

5799
05:17:12,798 --> 05:17:14,830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: dormitories na

5800
05:17:14,840 --> 05:17:16,948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ma-absorb. Kaya tuloy-tuloy po

5801
05:17:16,958 --> 05:17:18,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: at hindi naman po sila

5802
05:17:18,240 --> 05:17:22,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nahihirapan.

5803
05:17:22,200 --> 05:17:24,628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Pero tama po ba na

5804
05:17:24,638 --> 05:17:26,548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: so meron pa rin pong mga

5805
05:17:26,558 --> 05:17:28,230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: inmates or PDLs na

5806
05:17:28,240 --> 05:17:31,150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: magsistay sa New Bilibid Prison?

5807
05:17:31,160 --> 05:17:32,350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Or completely po bang

5808
05:17:32,360 --> 05:17:34,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: pinapaalis na po lahat because of

5809
05:17:34,400 --> 05:17:37,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kung anumang plans doon sa land?

5810
05:17:37,040 --> 05:17:38,150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang time frame po natin

5811
05:17:38,160 --> 05:17:40,070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kung talaga nating kakayanin

5812
05:17:40,080 --> 05:17:42,470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: is by 2028.

5813
05:17:42,480 --> 05:17:44,548
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Masasara na po

5814
05:17:44,558 --> 05:17:44,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: yung

5815
05:17:44,920 --> 05:17:48,628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: BuCor, pero hindi natin

5816
05:17:48,638 --> 05:17:51,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pipwersahin.

5817
05:17:51,600 --> 05:17:52,708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Kung wala naman silang

5818
05:17:52,718 --> 05:17:54,310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malilipatan,

5819
05:17:54,320 --> 05:17:56,390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ay mananatili po.

5820
05:17:56,400 --> 05:17:57,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Pero siguro,

5821
05:17:57,878 --> 05:18:00,470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ang first na masasara natin

5822
05:18:00,480 --> 05:18:02,030
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi may property po tayo

5823
05:18:02,040 --> 05:18:04,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: doon sa may bukana ng

5824
05:18:04,200 --> 05:18:06,750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Daanghari.

5825
05:18:06,760 --> 05:18:08,350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Prime lot po yun.

5826
05:18:08,360 --> 05:18:10,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Ang medium

5827
05:18:10,200 --> 05:18:11,750
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: security compound na po yun.

5828
05:18:11,760 --> 05:18:16,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Yung mga nakakulong po doon

5829
05:18:16,878 --> 05:18:18,470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: more or less 5,000

5830
05:18:18,480 --> 05:18:19,948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pwede nating maisara yun

5831
05:18:19,958 --> 05:18:22,470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and maiwan muna yung

5832
05:18:22,480 --> 05:18:27,110
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: minimum at saka maximum

5833
05:18:27,120 --> 05:18:28,788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na compounds

5834
05:18:28,798 --> 05:18:30,510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na nandito po sa looban

5835
05:18:30,520 --> 05:18:32,670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng Bucor.

5836
05:18:32,680 --> 05:18:33,830
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: If we can free up about

5837
05:18:33,840 --> 05:18:36,788
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: 200 hectares

5838
05:18:36,798 --> 05:18:37,708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na pwede nang ipalis

5839
05:18:37,718 --> 05:18:41,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: malaking bagay po yun

5840
05:18:41,200 --> 05:18:42,270
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi makakatulong po yun.

5841
05:18:42,280 --> 05:18:44,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Sa pagpapagawa

5842
05:18:44,600 --> 05:18:46,350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng kulungan at pagpapalipat

5843
05:18:46,360 --> 05:18:48,150
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng mga PDL. Hindi po namin

5844
05:18:48,160 --> 05:18:50,910
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: pipwersahin ang issue.

5845
05:18:50,920 --> 05:18:52,070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Importante po yung

5846
05:18:52,080 --> 05:18:54,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kalagayan at kaayusan

5847
05:18:54,600 --> 05:18:56,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ng ating mga PDL.

5848
05:18:56,600 --> 05:18:58,470
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Aware po ba yung Bucor, Mr. Chair,

5849
05:18:58,480 --> 05:19:00,708
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na meron po kasing petisyon

5850
05:19:00,718 --> 05:19:02,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na pinirmahan ng

5851
05:19:02,280 --> 05:19:04,548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: mga 45 PDLs

5852
05:19:04,558 --> 05:19:07,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na ang hiling nila

5853
05:19:07,040 --> 05:19:08,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay

5854
05:19:08,400 --> 05:19:10,190
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung retention ng kanilang

5855
05:19:10,200 --> 05:19:12,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: detention sa NBP at hindi po

5856
05:19:12,280 --> 05:19:14,190
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: na maitransfer sa

5857
05:19:14,200 --> 05:19:16,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ibang penal colony.

5858
05:19:16,040 --> 05:19:18,548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Ito po ay filed through Human Rights Organization

5859
05:19:18,558 --> 05:19:20,350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: kapatid. So aware po ba ang

5860
05:19:20,360 --> 05:19:20,910
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Bucor dito?

5861
05:19:20,920 --> 05:19:24,430
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Aware po kami at sasagutin po namin

5862
05:19:24,440 --> 05:19:26,670
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na talagang siguro kung

5863
05:19:26,680 --> 05:19:28,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sila na po ang huli

5864
05:19:28,200 --> 05:19:31,030
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa mga PDL na ililipat

5865
05:19:31,040 --> 05:19:32,590
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kasi nga po meron na kaming

5866
05:19:32,600 --> 05:19:35,390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nakuhang lilipatan

5867
05:19:35,400 --> 05:19:36,628
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: north of Metro Manila

5868
05:19:36,638 --> 05:19:38,350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Nueva Ecija.

5869
05:19:38,360 --> 05:19:40,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Nabigyan po kami ni Governor

5870
05:19:40,200 --> 05:19:42,510
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Umali na 60 hectares.

5871
05:19:42,520 --> 05:19:44,350
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Na pwede namin ilipat doon

5872
05:19:44,360 --> 05:19:45,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: yung mga ibang PDL

5873
05:19:45,878 --> 05:19:47,470
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na

5874
05:19:47,480 --> 05:19:49,868
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: taga-Luzon. And then

5875
05:19:49,878 --> 05:19:52,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: nine-negotiate po namin dito

5876
05:19:52,240 --> 05:19:53,190
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa Siniluan, Laguna

5877
05:19:53,200 --> 05:19:56,230
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: about 500 hectares

5878
05:19:56,240 --> 05:19:58,390
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na makakuha rin kami

5879
05:19:58,400 --> 05:20:00,310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para those who are

5880
05:20:00,320 --> 05:20:01,708
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: from south of Luzon,

5881
05:20:01,718 --> 05:20:03,948
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Metro Manila, doon naman po

5882
05:20:03,958 --> 05:20:06,070
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mailagay.

5883
05:20:06,080 --> 05:20:08,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po sa pagsagot.

5884
05:20:08,320 --> 05:20:10,030
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Yung pagtatanong po natin,

5885
05:20:10,040 --> 05:20:11,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ginagawa natin to ensure na, syempre,

5886
05:20:11,760 --> 05:20:14,590
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: in observance of the rule of law

5887
05:20:14,600 --> 05:20:17,150
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: and the processes involved therein,

5888
05:20:17,160 --> 05:20:18,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: at some point, may tension,

5889
05:20:18,840 --> 05:20:20,350
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: may conflict yan doon

5890
05:20:20,360 --> 05:20:22,548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa paano ino-observe 'yung human rights

5891
05:20:22,558 --> 05:20:24,270
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ng mga tao.

5892
05:20:24,280 --> 05:20:25,750
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: So, ini-ensure lang natin, to the greatest

5893
05:20:25,760 --> 05:20:28,548
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: extent, the widest latitude possible,

5894
05:20:28,558 --> 05:20:30,628
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: ay nirerespeto po 'yung mga karapatan na 'to.

5895
05:20:30,638 --> 05:20:32,430
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Including, of course,

5896
05:20:32,440 --> 05:20:33,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: yung may preference sila

5897
05:20:33,400 --> 05:20:36,230
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa Mandela Rules, ay nae-exercise,

5898
05:20:36,240 --> 05:20:38,310
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: nare-respeto po 'yun. And among din 'yun po 'yung

5899
05:20:38,320 --> 05:20:40,390
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa mga tanong natin kanina.

5900
05:20:40,400 --> 05:20:41,868
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Maraming salamat po sa pagsagot.

5901
05:20:41,878 --> 05:20:43,830
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: sa pagsagot ng DOJ at ng BuCor.

5902
05:20:43,840 --> 05:20:44,200
Rep. Renee Louise M. Co: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

5903
05:20:46,520 --> 05:20:48,604
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Rep. Renee Co. Next in line

5904
05:20:49,185 --> 05:20:50,787
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: from the minority:

5905
05:20:51,489 --> 05:20:53,011
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Representative Sarah Elago.

5906
05:20:57,369 --> 05:20:58,891
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

5907
05:20:59,132 --> 05:21:01,275
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: One of the recommendations of the

5908
05:21:01,275 --> 05:21:03,359
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination

5909
05:21:03,359 --> 05:21:05,603
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Against Women, in

5910
05:21:05,603 --> 05:21:07,646
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: its concluding observations

5911
05:21:07,646 --> 05:21:09,349
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in the

5912
05:21:09,349 --> 05:21:11,653
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Ninth Periodic Report of the Philippines

5913
05:21:11,653 --> 05:21:13,456
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: in 2023, is to

5914
05:21:13,456 --> 05:21:15,179
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ensure that all in

5915
05:21:15,179 --> 05:21:17,183
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: law

5916
05:21:17,463 --> 05:21:20,008
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: enforcement have training on gender-sensitive

5917
05:21:20,008 --> 05:21:21,750
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: investigation and interrogation.

5918
05:21:21,750 --> 05:21:22,772
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: May

5919
05:21:22,772 --> 05:21:25,797
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: we know

5920
05:21:25,797 --> 05:21:27,861
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: if the NBI

5921
05:21:27,861 --> 05:21:29,965
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: has a particular line item for

5922
05:21:29,965 --> 05:21:31,808
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: this? Meron po ba

5923
05:21:32,128 --> 05:21:33,130
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kayong mga training sa

5924
05:21:33,130 --> 05:21:36,095
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagtitiyak na hindi

5925
05:21:36,095 --> 05:21:36,696
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: lang

5926
05:21:36,696 --> 05:21:39,842
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ang ating Division

5927
05:21:39,842 --> 05:21:41,805
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: on Violence Against Women

5928
05:21:41,805 --> 05:21:43,708
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: and Their Children, pero lahat

5929
05:21:43,708 --> 05:21:45,231
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po ng mga

5930
05:21:45,231 --> 05:21:47,314
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nagsasagawa ng

5931
05:21:47,515 --> 05:21:49,859
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: interviews, investigation,

5932
05:21:50,780 --> 05:21:51,482
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: yung

5933
05:21:52,644 --> 05:21:53,565
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: course ng interrogation,

5934
05:21:53,565 --> 05:21:55,388
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ay mayroong

5935
05:21:55,388 --> 05:21:57,913
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: gender-sensitive training

5936
05:21:57,913 --> 05:21:59,836
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or gender-sensitivity training?

5937
05:22:00,657 --> 05:22:01,619
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Thank you,

5938
05:22:01,839 --> 05:22:02,661
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair.

5939
05:22:03,602 --> 05:22:05,706
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Those programs, we included in our program

5940
05:22:05,706 --> 05:22:07,790
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: in GAD so that we can utilize

5941
05:22:07,790 --> 05:22:09,633
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the allocation for

5942
05:22:09,633 --> 05:22:10,675
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: that purpose. In

5943
05:22:11,356 --> 05:22:13,800
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: addition to that, we have a budget for the academy,

5944
05:22:13,800 --> 05:22:15,182
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and those

5945
05:22:15,182 --> 05:22:17,406
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: who will be entering the academy will

5946
05:22:17,566 --> 05:22:19,189
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: undergo that training as well. And

5947
05:22:19,289 --> 05:22:20,511
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: there are a lot of international

5948
05:22:20,511 --> 05:22:23,436
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: trainings that we are sending our

5949
05:22:23,436 --> 05:22:25,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: agents to in

5950
05:22:25,280 --> 05:22:26,442
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: relation to this

5951
05:22:26,442 --> 05:22:28,405
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: issue.

5952
05:22:29,567 --> 05:22:31,470
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, para lang ba ito doon sa mga

5953
05:22:31,470 --> 05:22:33,674
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nasa national office? Paano po yung

5954
05:22:33,674 --> 05:22:35,397
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga nasa regions natin?

5955
05:22:35,497 --> 05:22:37,521
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Paano yung pondo nila para diyan?

5956
05:22:37,601 --> 05:22:38,723
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sa GAD din po kinukuha?

5957
05:22:39,324 --> 05:22:41,688
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Kasama po lahat. That applies to

5958
05:22:41,688 --> 05:22:43,210
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: all the members of

5959
05:22:43,210 --> 05:22:45,675
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the National Bureau of

5960
05:22:45,675 --> 05:22:47,598
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Investigation, particularly yung mga

5961
05:22:47,618 --> 05:22:48,479
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: agents po natin.

5962
05:22:49,201 --> 05:22:51,965
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, meron din bang binibigay, halimbawa,

5963
05:22:52,426 --> 05:22:53,107
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: mga critical

5964
05:22:53,107 --> 05:22:55,672
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: incident stress debriefing

5965
05:22:55,672 --> 05:22:57,595
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para po doon sa ating mga

5966
05:22:57,595 --> 05:22:59,378
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: personnel

5967
05:22:59,378 --> 05:23:01,662
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: doon sa ating VAWCD? Kasi po

5968
05:23:01,963 --> 05:23:02,904
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: napakahalaga niyan.

5969
05:23:03,445 --> 05:23:05,288
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Sila po usually, bagama't

5970
05:23:05,288 --> 05:23:07,532
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iyon ang

5971
05:23:07,532 --> 05:23:09,415
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: nangyayari, yung mga nakakakuha ng mga

5972
05:23:09,415 --> 05:23:11,259
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: reports—halimbawa, sa

5973
05:23:11,259 --> 05:23:13,583
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: CICC, meron silang hotline, nagre-refer

5974
05:23:13,863 --> 05:23:15,265
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din sila sa NBI for

5975
05:23:15,265 --> 05:23:17,409
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: investigation—pero may mga kababayan

5976
05:23:17,409 --> 05:23:19,573
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: din po tayo na dumidiretso na sa

5977
05:23:19,573 --> 05:23:21,376
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: NBI. So yung mga

5978
05:23:21,757 --> 05:23:23,800
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: first responders po ba natin sa ating

5979
05:23:23,800 --> 05:23:25,503
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bureau, nakakakuha

5980
05:23:25,503 --> 05:23:27,526
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng ganoong tipo ng mga

5981
05:23:27,526 --> 05:23:29,570
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: debriefing sa panahon na sila po ay

5982
05:23:29,570 --> 05:23:31,373
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: humaharap sa ganitong mga tipo ng kaso?

5983
05:23:31,373 --> 05:23:33,397
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Yes, ma'am. We have the AHTRAD,

5984
05:23:33,397 --> 05:23:35,280
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the Anti-Human Trafficking Division,

5985
05:23:35,340 --> 05:23:37,584
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and also the VAWCD.

5986
05:23:37,584 --> 05:23:38,706
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Then we have the

5987
05:23:39,207 --> 05:23:40,990
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: Behavioral Science Unit also that's

5988
05:23:40,990 --> 05:23:42,713
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: doing that training

5989
05:23:42,713 --> 05:23:44,135
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: and the

5990
05:23:44,135 --> 05:23:47,441
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: correspondence. Tuloy-tuloy po iyon.

5991
05:23:47,461 --> 05:23:48,803
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: And with

5992
05:23:48,803 --> 05:23:51,067
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the help also of the social workers,

5993
05:23:51,067 --> 05:23:53,271
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: iyon pong aming mga nagiging

5994
05:23:53,271 --> 05:23:55,334
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: na-encounter na cases, we

5995
05:23:55,815 --> 05:23:57,278
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: are always in coordination with

5996
05:23:57,278 --> 05:23:59,121
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: the social workers po, depending

5997
05:23:59,121 --> 05:24:00,804
NBI Director Melvin Matibag: kung saang area po iyon, ma'am.

5998
05:24:01,705 --> 05:24:03,007
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

5999
05:24:03,108 --> 05:24:05,392
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Manghihingi na lang po tayo ng pinakahuling

6000
05:24:05,392 --> 05:24:07,435
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ulat ng mga kaso

6001
05:24:07,435 --> 05:24:08,797
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na nakuha ng

6002
05:24:08,797 --> 05:24:11,542
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: NBI VAWCD, lalong-lalo

6003
05:24:11,542 --> 05:24:13,265
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na po yung may kinalaman, Mr. Chair, sa

6004
05:24:13,385 --> 05:24:15,289
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: technology-facilitated gender-based violence

6005
05:24:15,289 --> 05:24:17,212
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at iba't

6006
05:24:17,512 --> 05:24:19,576
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ibang cybercrimes

6007
05:24:19,576 --> 05:24:21,139
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: na may kinalaman po sa

6008
05:24:21,139 --> 05:24:23,803
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: karapatan, hindi lang po ng mga kababaihan

6009
05:24:23,803 --> 05:24:25,626
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: at ng mga bata, kundi po

6010
05:24:25,626 --> 05:24:27,670
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: kung paano ginagamit yung teknolohiya

6011
05:24:27,670 --> 05:24:29,733
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: para sa

6012
05:24:29,733 --> 05:24:31,777
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: iba't ibang tipo ng

6013
05:24:32,578 --> 05:24:33,921
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: krimen. Ngayon naman, Mr.

6014
05:24:34,141 --> 05:24:35,984
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Chair, sa BuCor po, pahabol ko lang

6015
05:24:37,487 --> 05:24:38,008
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po. Would it

6016
05:24:38,008 --> 05:24:39,630
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: be possible to direct

6017
05:24:39,630 --> 05:24:42,014
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: the Internal Audit Service

6018
05:24:42,014 --> 05:24:43,557
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: to investigate

6019
05:24:43,557 --> 05:24:46,021
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: not just the cashless system in CIW

6020
05:24:46,021 --> 05:24:47,404
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: but in all

6021
05:24:47,404 --> 05:24:49,567
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: other prison and penal

6022
05:24:49,567 --> 05:24:51,571
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: farms under the BuCor?

6023
05:24:52,152 --> 05:24:53,494
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, we are

6024
05:24:53,494 --> 05:24:55,978
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: already doing it. Pinapa-inventory

6025
05:24:55,978 --> 05:24:57,802
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: ko lahat ng mga

6026
05:24:57,802 --> 05:24:59,404
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: PDL funds

6027
05:24:59,404 --> 05:25:00,747
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: sa lahat ng mga

6028
05:25:00,747 --> 05:25:03,672
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: kolonya. As a matter

6029
05:25:03,672 --> 05:25:05,755
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of fact, iyon nga po, meron

6030
05:25:07,097 --> 05:25:07,839
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: po kaming kinumpiska

6031
05:25:07,839 --> 05:25:09,922
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na two million pesos

6032
05:25:09,922 --> 05:25:12,407
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: na hawak-hawak ng

6033
05:25:12,407 --> 05:25:13,488
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: mga PDL, and

6034
05:25:13,488 --> 05:25:14,310
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: just

6035
05:25:14,310 --> 05:25:17,455
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: to make sure na ito ay

6036
05:25:17,455 --> 05:25:20,020
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: magagamit nila

6037
05:25:20,020 --> 05:25:21,983
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para hindi na po mawala.

6038
05:25:23,906 --> 05:25:25,569
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, maisasama na ba nila iyan

6039
05:25:25,569 --> 05:25:27,452
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa isusumite nilang report sa atin

6040
05:25:27,452 --> 05:25:29,476
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: bago ang plenaryo, o mangailangan pa po

6041
05:25:29,476 --> 05:25:30,618
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng mas mahabang panahon?

6042
05:25:31,079 --> 05:25:33,423
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: We will do it next week.

6043
05:25:33,423 --> 05:25:35,687
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Isa-submit po namin, Mr. Chair.

6044
05:25:36,348 --> 05:25:37,430
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Okay. Bukod po diyan,

6045
05:25:37,630 --> 05:25:39,413
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Mr. Chair, hingin na rin po

6046
05:25:39,413 --> 05:25:42,037
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: natin kung meron na

6047
05:25:42,037 --> 05:25:43,680
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: tayong uniform po ba

6048
05:25:43,680 --> 05:25:45,904
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: or harmonized na governing policy

6049
05:25:45,904 --> 05:25:47,447
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: pagdating po sa mga

6050
05:25:47,447 --> 05:25:49,570
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: cashless systems natin sa

6051
05:25:49,570 --> 05:25:51,594
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: loob po ng ating mga

6052
05:25:51,594 --> 05:25:53,237
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: prison and penal farms.

6053
05:25:54,178 --> 05:25:55,340
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Madam Chair.

6054
05:25:55,561 --> 05:25:57,204
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Mr. Chair, meron na po kaming

6055
05:25:57,204 --> 05:25:59,608
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: policy guidelines and

6056
05:25:59,608 --> 05:26:01,771
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: procedures on operations and management

6057
05:26:01,771 --> 05:26:04,095
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: of BuCor's Inmate Post Exchange

6058
05:26:04,095 --> 05:26:05,758
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: through cashless transaction.

6059
05:26:06,319 --> 05:26:07,621
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: Na-submit na po namin ito sa

6060
05:26:07,621 --> 05:26:09,084
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: UP Law Center,

6061
05:26:09,084 --> 05:26:11,809
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: and it's now effective,

6062
05:26:11,809 --> 05:26:13,892
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: para sa ganoon

6063
05:26:13,892 --> 05:26:15,595
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: may prosesong gagawin na

6064
05:26:15,675 --> 05:26:16,276
BuCor Director General Gregorio Pio P. Catapang Jr.: susundan.

6065
05:26:16,276 --> 05:26:17,098
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: Okay. Maraming salamat

6066
05:26:17,498 --> 05:26:18,440
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: po. At sana mabigyan din po

6067
05:26:18,440 --> 05:26:19,722
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ang ating Committee on Appropriations

6068
05:26:19,722 --> 05:26:21,826
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: ng copy niyan. Iyon lamang

6069
05:26:22,327 --> 05:26:24,270
Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago: sa ngayon, Mr. Chair. Maraming salamat.

6070
05:26:24,280 --> 05:26:26,763
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Representative

6071
05:26:26,763 --> 05:26:28,501
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Sarah Elago.

6072
05:26:28,501 --> 05:26:30,984
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Next in line

6073
05:26:30,984 --> 05:26:37,188
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: again. Before that, may we acknowledge the presence

6074
05:26:37,188 --> 05:26:38,926
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: of [unclear],

6075
05:26:38,926 --> 05:26:42,153
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: and briefly our [unclear],

6076
05:26:42,153 --> 05:26:43,892
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Speaker Bojie

6077
05:26:43,892 --> 05:26:45,630
Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Dy. For

6078
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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: the third round,

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: kay Representative

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Allan Ty.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: To the

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: LRA Administrator:

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: if the original Friar Land

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: title was already subdivided

6086
05:27:00,664 --> 05:27:03,215
Rep. Allan U. Ty: and approved before the original

6087
05:27:03,215 --> 05:27:04,845
Rep. Allan U. Ty: title was lost,

6088
05:27:04,845 --> 05:27:07,396
Rep. Allan U. Ty: can the approved subdivision plan

6089
05:27:07,396 --> 05:27:09,027
Rep. Allan U. Ty: and technical descriptions

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05:27:09,027 --> 05:27:11,578
Rep. Allan U. Ty: be used as evidence for

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05:27:11,578 --> 05:27:13,209
Rep. Allan U. Ty: reconstitution and issuance

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05:27:13,209 --> 05:27:15,300
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of resulting titles or

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05:27:15,300 --> 05:27:16,470
Rep. Allan U. Ty: derivative titles?

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05:27:16,480 --> 05:27:18,252
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Your Honor, under

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: R.A. 26,

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: as amended by

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05:27:21,288 --> 05:27:23,059
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: R.A. 6732, mayroon

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05:27:23,059 --> 05:27:25,845
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pong listing ng mga documents

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05:27:25,845 --> 05:27:28,124
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: that can be used

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05:27:28,124 --> 05:27:30,403
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: to support iyong ating

6101
05:27:30,403 --> 05:27:32,175
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: reconstitution. Wala pong

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05:27:32,175 --> 05:27:34,454
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: naka-mention doon na subdivision

6103
05:27:34,454 --> 05:27:35,718
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: plan po.

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05:27:35,718 --> 05:27:41,439
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So kailangan po ba talaga yung original

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05:27:41,439 --> 05:27:42,470
Rep. Allan U. Ty: title?

6106
05:27:42,480 --> 05:27:45,018
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. Mayroon pong hierarchy. Kapag

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05:27:45,018 --> 05:27:46,640
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: administrative reconstitution, dapat

6108
05:27:46,640 --> 05:27:48,720
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: na nandoon po yung

6109
05:27:48,720 --> 05:27:50,343
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: owner's duplicate copy.

6110
05:27:50,343 --> 05:27:52,423
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Kung wala naman po,

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05:27:52,423 --> 05:27:54,046
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: mayroon pong copy,

6112
05:27:54,046 --> 05:27:55,669
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: photocopy ng nasa

6113
05:27:55,669 --> 05:27:57,749
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: mortgagee. Kapag naisanla, iyon

6114
05:27:57,749 --> 05:27:59,371
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: pong copy ng

6115
05:27:59,371 --> 05:28:01,909
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: mortgagee puwede pong gamitin as

6116
05:28:01,909 --> 05:28:03,532
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: proof of reconstitution.

6117
05:28:03,532 --> 05:28:06,069
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: There are, I think, five

6118
05:28:06,069 --> 05:28:07,234
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: copies po

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05:28:07,234 --> 05:28:09,315
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: that are permitted under

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05:28:09,315 --> 05:28:11,395
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the law na puwedeng

6121
05:28:11,395 --> 05:28:14,390
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: supporting document po sa ating reconstitution.

6122
05:28:14,390 --> 05:28:15,927
Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about for Friar Lands

6123
05:28:15,927 --> 05:28:17,722
Rep. Allan U. Ty: na wala pang na-issue na derivative

6124
05:28:17,722 --> 05:28:18,230
Rep. Allan U. Ty: titles?

6125
05:28:18,240 --> 05:28:20,955
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yung pong OCT po

6126
05:28:20,955 --> 05:28:22,438
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ang kailangang

6127
05:28:22,438 --> 05:28:23,920
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: ma-reconstitute po.

6128
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Rep. Allan U. Ty: How about where there are already

6129
05:28:27,074 --> 05:28:29,260
Rep. Allan U. Ty: derivative portions of the

6130
05:28:29,260 --> 05:28:31,447
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Friar Lands—a derivative title

6131
05:28:31,447 --> 05:28:33,633
Rep. Allan U. Ty: has been issued already—and

6132
05:28:33,633 --> 05:28:35,335
Rep. Allan U. Ty: subsequently the DENR

6133
05:28:35,335 --> 05:28:38,005
Rep. Allan U. Ty: issued a deed of conveyance?

6134
05:28:38,005 --> 05:28:39,223
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Can the

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: derivative titles that

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05:28:40,925 --> 05:28:44,079
Rep. Allan U. Ty: have been issued be used as

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05:28:44,079 --> 05:28:46,266
Rep. Allan U. Ty: a basis for issuance

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05:28:46,266 --> 05:28:47,968
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of title to

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05:28:47,968 --> 05:28:49,670
Rep. Allan U. Ty: portions of the

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05:28:49,670 --> 05:28:50,888
Rep. Allan U. Ty: original Friar

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Land? Puwede po ba iyon?

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05:28:53,558 --> 05:28:56,335
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We will explore po the possibility

6143
05:28:56,335 --> 05:28:58,690
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: of making use of the

6144
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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: derivative titles that

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: have been issued already, coming from

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05:29:02,980 --> 05:29:04,914
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the OCT po, kung

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05:29:04,914 --> 05:29:06,428
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: magagawa po ng

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: administrative remedy.

6149
05:29:07,520 --> 05:29:08,932
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Under what particular

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05:29:08,932 --> 05:29:11,120
Rep. Allan U. Ty: law are you referring to?

6151
05:29:11,120 --> 05:29:13,829
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: We will check po, because the

6152
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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: only existing law when it comes

6153
05:29:16,539 --> 05:29:18,019
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: to reconstitution is

6154
05:29:18,019 --> 05:29:19,908
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: R.A. 26, as amended

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05:29:19,908 --> 05:29:21,798
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: by R.A. 6732 po.

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05:29:21,798 --> 05:29:23,976
Rep. Allan U. Ty: So my question now, Mr.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Administrator, is: why should

6158
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Rep. Allan U. Ty: the loss or deterioration

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05:29:27,561 --> 05:29:29,738
Rep. Allan U. Ty: of the original Friar Land

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05:29:29,738 --> 05:29:32,302
Rep. Allan U. Ty: title prevent the issuance of titles

6161
05:29:32,302 --> 05:29:34,094
Rep. Allan U. Ty: to subsequent owners when

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05:29:34,094 --> 05:29:36,272
Rep. Allan U. Ty: their respective rights are supported

6163
05:29:36,272 --> 05:29:37,679
Rep. Allan U. Ty: by a valid

6164
05:29:37,679 --> 05:29:39,857
Rep. Allan U. Ty: deed of conveyance and approved

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05:29:39,857 --> 05:29:40,878
Rep. Allan U. Ty: subdivision documents?

6166
05:29:40,878 --> 05:29:43,125
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Opo. The law po

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05:29:43,125 --> 05:29:49,863
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: kasi, especially P.D. 1529, requires that the owner's duplicate copy must be surrendered

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: po. So that is the problem right now. What should have happened was, when they subdivided the Friar Lands, it should have been totally cancelled already—wala na hong naiiwan—and

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: the remaining lots that have not yet been awarded should have been issued titles in the name of the Republic para mas

6170
05:30:15,819 --> 05:30:21,559
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: madali po. What happened right now is that there is partial

6171
05:30:21,559 --> 05:30:29,296
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: cancellation. So it leaves us with portions of the Friar Land na wala pong titles.

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: So iyon po ang aming dilemma ngayon.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So can you say what

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05:30:36,497 --> 05:30:43,160
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Registries of Deeds, or what provinces, have Friar Lands problems?

6175
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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: As far as I recall, Your Honor, the RDs in Cavite—I think there are four Friar Lands in Cavite—and also the RD in Cebu Province. There's

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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: also one particular RD which I'm aware of where the copy of the OCT has been lost.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: So,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Mr. Administrator, since you already committed to attend the budget hearing of the DENR on Wednesday, August 26 at 11:00 a.m.,

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: can you also bring your Registries of Deeds of Cavite to join us in our meeting?

6180
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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: Yes, Your Honor, I will.

6181
05:31:24,220 --> 05:31:28,760
LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: And also, if you would like, I'd also invite the RD from Cebu.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

6183
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LRA Administrator Gerardo P. Sirios: There are similar issues concerned.

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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

6185
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Rep. Allan U. Ty: That's all, Mr. Chairman.

6186
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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you very much.

6187
05:31:34,958 --> 05:31:35,665
Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you.

6188
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Rep. Allan U. Ty: Thank you, Mr. Administrator.

6189
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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: Thank you, Cong. Allan Ty.

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Rep. Keith Micah "Atty. Mike" D.L. Tan: [unclear] ba natin muna, ah, suspend the hearing briefing po muna.