1 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:29,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you for attending today's briefing on the fiscal year 2027 proposed 2 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:52,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Expenditure Program of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development, its attached agencies and corporations. I hereby call to order. The Chair would like to acknowledge the presence of Senator Panfilo Lacson. Thank you, sir, for joining us. At this juncture, the Chair recognizes the Committee Secretary to acknowledge the resource persons present for the day. 3 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:29,980 Committee Secretary: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. For the briefing on the proposed FY2027 budget of the Department of Economy, Planning and Development or DEPDEV and attached agencies and corporations, namely the Commission on Population and Development or CPD, Philippine National Volunteer Service Coordinating Agency or PNVSCA, the Public-Private Partnership Center of the Philippines or PPP Center, the Philippine Statistical Research and Training Institute or PSRTI, Tariff Commission or TC, Philippine Statistics Authority or PSA, 4 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:59,980 Committee Secretary: Development Academy of the Philippines or DAP, and Philippine Institute for Development Studies or PIDS, we would like to acknowledge the presence of DEPDEV Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan together with Undersecretary Joseph Capuno, Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo Abad Santos, Undersecretary Maria Monica Pagunzan, Undersecretary Melbourne Zero Pana, Undersecretary Glenda Rumor, Assistant Secretary Reynaldo Cancio, Assistant Secretary Roderick M. Plans, 5 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:28,640 Committee Secretary: Assistant Secretary Jonathan Uy, Assistant Secretary Agnes Tolentino, and Assistant Secretary Flora Sherry Basquinez. For CPD, we have the Executive Director, Undersecretary Lisa Grace Bersales. For PNVSEA, we have Executive Director Donald James Gawe. From PPP Center, we have Executive Director Riza Latore. From PSRTI, we have Executive Director Josefina Almeda. For Tariff Commission, we have Chairperson Marilu Mendoza. 6 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:52,720 Committee Secretary: From PSA, we have Undersecretary Claire Denise Mapa. For DAP, we have the President and CEO, Dr. Leocadio Sebastian. And for PIDS, we have Dr. Philip Arnold Tuano, the President. We have also invited the presence of BBM and COA. BBM representatives are present online. We have Ms. Maria Regina Galindez and Mr. Vincent Grace Tejero. 7 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:58,560 Committee Secretary: For COA, we have Mr. Anileto Boletse Jr., Mr. James Arnold Fabelion, Mr. 8 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:09,860 Committee Secretary: Rebecca Tugay, Ms. Vanessa Gamanos, Mr. Leo Camacho, Ms. Jessa Abiva, Ms. Suzette Pornales, Mr. Jelly Abinoja, and Mr. Jose Aldrin Bontigal. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 9 00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:11,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. 10 00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:23,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This juncture, the Chair would like to read this opening statement to our esteemed colleague, Senator Lacson, guests and resource persons, and the Department of Economy Planning and Development and its attached agencies. 11 00:58:23,220 --> 00:58:24,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: A pleasant afternoon. 12 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We are here today to deliberate the proposed fiscal year 2027. 13 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:34,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The budget of the Department of Economy Planning and Development, attached agencies, and corporation. 14 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:40,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: As we have emphasized during the DBCC briefing, our fiscal space is limited. 15 00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:47,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya kailangan talagang piliin natin, nating mabuti kung saan mapupunta ang bawat piso ng ating budget. 16 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This becomes even more important given the economic challenges confronting our country. 17 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We continue to feel the effects of external shocks, 18 00:58:57,460 --> 00:58:58,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: including the conflicts, 19 00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in the Middle East. 20 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mataas ang presyo ng langis, 21 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:02,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: transportasyon, 22 00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:03,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pagkain, 23 00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:06,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at iba pang mga pangunahing pangangailangan. 24 00:59:07,060 --> 00:59:10,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We are living at a time when the peso is at its slowest, 25 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: while inflation rates are on the rise. 26 00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:17,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Our economy grew by only 4.4% in 2025, 27 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and growth has remained weak this year. 28 00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:21,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Inflation remains elevated, 29 00:59:22,460 --> 00:59:24,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: reaching 6.1% in August, 30 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and while the poverty rate has declined, 31 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: more than 11 million 32 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Filipinos are still living below the poverty line. 33 00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:37,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: These numbers should remind us that economic growth cannot be measured by statistics alone. 34 00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:42,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang tunay na sukatan ay kung gumaan ba ang buhay ng ating makababayan. 35 00:59:43,220 --> 00:59:46,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This is where DEP-DEB plays an important role. 36 00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:49,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You help determine where our country is going, 37 00:59:49,860 --> 00:59:51,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: which investments we should prioritize, 38 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:57,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and which programs and infrastructure projects will produce the greatest and most lasting benefit 39 00:59:57,380 --> 00:59:58,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for our people. 40 00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:12,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: DepDEP will also be the primary government agency to oversee and ensure the fulfillment of the promises of the Master Plan for Infrastructure and National Development, or the MIND Act, once it becomes a law. 41 01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:20,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm very hopeful that whatever budget given to DepDEP will aid them in preparing for the implementation of the MIND Act. 42 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:36,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: As we go through the budget, we want to know whether the resources being proposed for 2027 will allow DepDEP to fully perform its role in shaping our country's development, guiding government priorities, and helping improve the lives of our people. 43 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:50,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At the end of the day, the question is simple. Will this budget help DepDEP do its part in creating more jobs, reducing poverty, raising incomes, strengthening our economy, and giving Filipino families a better quality of life? 44 01:00:50,600 --> 01:01:00,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We hope that by the end of today's presentation and deliberations, the answer to that question will be a clear yes. Thank you very much. 45 01:01:00,940 --> 01:01:07,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Before calling our guests, I'd like to ask our esteemed colleagues if they have opening statements. 46 01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:08,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senator Lacson? 47 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,240 Senator Panfilo Lacson: None, Your Honor. 48 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, Senator Tulfo? 49 01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:12,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: None, Your Honor. 50 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:20,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, since there are no more opening statements, I now call on Secretary Arsenio Balisacan to deliver his opening statement. 51 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And to present the 2027 Proposed Expenditure Program of the Department. 52 01:01:28,420 --> 01:01:45,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you, Chair. Chairperson of the Senate Committee on Finance, Senator JV Ejercito, Senator Ping Lacson, and Senator Raffy Tulfo, my colleagues in government and the DEPDev family, good afternoon. 53 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We would like to thank our legislators 54 01:01:50,600 --> 01:02:00,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for this opportunity to present the proposed budget of DEPDev and its attached agencies for fiscal year 2027. 55 01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:12,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I will be discussing the DepDEP's most recent accomplishments, strategic priorities, and budget proposal for fiscal year 2025. 56 01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:20,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I am pretty much aware, Mr. Chair. 57 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:30,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I am pretty sure that you are familiar with the vision and mission of DepDEP and its attached agencies. 58 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:39,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, in the interest of time, I could skip those and move on to slide number five, our accomplishments. 59 01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:45,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DepDEP's major accomplishments for fiscal year 2025. 60 01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:49,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: In the first half of fiscal year 2026. 61 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As shown on the following slides. 62 01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:07,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The Socioeconomic Policy and Planning Program is the DepDEP's central engine for translating national priorities into actionable policy. 63 01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:16,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And the Legislative Front, a secretariat to the Legislative Executive Development Advisory Council, or LEDOC. 64 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DEPDev facilitated the enactment of 11 65 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Common Legislative Agenda bills 66 01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:24,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in 2025. 67 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:36,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Overall, 40 of the 64 LEDOC CLA bills of the 19th Congress for about 63% were enacted. 68 01:03:37,580 --> 01:03:41,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The highest passing rate since the 10th Congress. 69 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DepDEP provided 1,240 policy recommendations. 70 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and submitted 147 71 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: position papers in 2025. 72 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: On a quarterly 73 01:03:55,340 --> 01:03:56,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and monthly basis, 74 01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:59,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we provided technical 75 01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:00,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: reports to the Office of the President 76 01:04:00,980 --> 01:04:03,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the country's performance 77 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for key socioeconomic indicators 78 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:07,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: such as our gross 79 01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:08,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: domestic product or GDP, 80 01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:11,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: inflation, and employment. 81 01:04:12,620 --> 01:04:13,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Our 82 01:04:13,420 --> 01:04:15,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: regional offices function as 83 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the Secretariat of the Regional 84 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Development Councils 85 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or RDCs. 86 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We provided technical and secretariat 87 01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:24,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: support in the 88 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: formulation of regional 89 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: plans, investment 90 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: programs, and spatial development 91 01:04:31,140 --> 01:04:31,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: frameworks. 92 01:04:32,940 --> 01:04:34,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: In 2025, 93 01:04:35,340 --> 01:04:37,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the RDCs held eight 94 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: meetings with the President 95 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to discuss various matters 96 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:42,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: related to regional development 97 01:04:42,540 --> 01:04:43,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: efforts. 98 01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:46,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: In 2025, 99 01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:48,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: they produced the 100 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Trabaho Para sa Bayan Plan, 101 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the country's first 102 01:04:51,580 --> 01:04:53,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 10-year labor market development plan 103 01:04:53,780 --> 01:04:55,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: mandated under 104 01:04:55,660 --> 01:04:58,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Republic Act No. 11962 105 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and launched on 106 01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:00,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: May 5, 2025. 107 01:05:01,620 --> 01:05:03,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It sets the roadmap 108 01:05:03,460 --> 01:05:05,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for job creation and workforce 109 01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:07,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: development for the next 110 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:07,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: decade. 111 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As Secretariat to the National Innovation 112 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Council, 113 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DEPDEV held the 2025 114 01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:18,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Presidential Philippine Innovation Awards 115 01:05:18,020 --> 01:05:19,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: on November 6, 116 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2025, recognizing five 117 01:05:22,660 --> 01:05:23,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Philippine innovations. 118 01:05:25,580 --> 01:05:27,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Executive Order No. 99 119 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Series of 2025 120 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: signed a month earlier 121 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: institutionalized 122 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: this prestigious award. 123 01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:37,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We also 124 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: advanced two significant interagency 125 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:40,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: policies. 126 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Joint Memorandum Circular No. 127 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2025-01 128 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with the Department of Budget and Management 129 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: which institutionalized 130 01:05:49,580 --> 01:05:50,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: program convergence 131 01:05:50,580 --> 01:05:51,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: budgeting 132 01:05:51,580 --> 01:05:54,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to ensure that agency budgets 133 01:05:54,580 --> 01:05:57,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: aligned around shared priority outcomes 134 01:05:57,660 --> 01:06:03,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and joint MC No. 2025-001 135 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with the Department of Housing 136 01:06:06,260 --> 01:06:09,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and Urban Development 137 01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:10,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: addressing housing 138 01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:13,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and procurement policy. 139 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Client satisfaction 140 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with our Secretariat 141 01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:19,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and Technical Services 142 01:06:19,580 --> 01:06:22,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: across the Economy and Development Council, 143 01:06:22,580 --> 01:06:24,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: LIDAC, and Interagency Committees 144 01:06:24,580 --> 01:06:28,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: was sustained between 92% and 99% 145 01:06:28,580 --> 01:06:29,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in every period, 146 01:06:29,580 --> 01:06:32,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a strong signal of institutional trust 147 01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:34,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in the Department's convening 148 01:06:34,580 --> 01:06:36,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and coordination role. 149 01:06:38,580 --> 01:06:41,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The National Investment Programming Program 150 01:06:41,580 --> 01:06:43,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is where policy priorities 151 01:06:43,580 --> 01:06:45,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: meet resource allocation. 152 01:06:46,580 --> 01:06:48,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Official Development Assistance 153 01:06:48,580 --> 01:06:55,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: manage 452 active ODA commitments 154 01:06:55,580 --> 01:07:03,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: worth $41.8 billion in 2025. 155 01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:05,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Ninety-five project loans 156 01:07:05,580 --> 01:07:09,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: worth $31.7 billion, 157 01:07:09,580 --> 01:07:11,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 17 program loans 158 01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:14,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: worth $8.0 billion, 159 01:07:14,580 --> 01:07:16,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and 340 grants 160 01:07:16,580 --> 01:07:17,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: worth $2.1 billion. 161 01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:19,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: U.S. dollars. 162 01:07:21,500 --> 01:07:22,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DEPDev updated 163 01:07:22,580 --> 01:07:23,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the Public Investment 164 01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:24,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Program and the 165 01:07:24,580 --> 01:07:25,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Three-Year Rolling 166 01:07:25,580 --> 01:07:26,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Infrastructure Program 167 01:07:26,580 --> 01:07:27,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to guide 168 01:07:27,580 --> 01:07:28,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the fiscal year 169 01:07:28,580 --> 01:07:29,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2026 170 01:07:29,580 --> 01:07:30,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and fiscal year 171 01:07:30,580 --> 01:07:31,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2027 172 01:07:31,580 --> 01:07:32,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: budget preparations 173 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in close coordination 174 01:07:37,580 --> 01:07:38,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with implementing 175 01:07:38,580 --> 01:07:39,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: agencies, and 176 01:07:39,580 --> 01:07:40,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: updated all 177 01:07:40,580 --> 01:07:41,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 16 Regional 178 01:07:41,580 --> 01:07:43,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Development Investment 179 01:07:43,580 --> 01:07:44,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Programs across 180 01:07:44,580 --> 01:07:46,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the period. 181 01:07:46,580 --> 01:08:09,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Programs and projects submitted to the DBM under the Public Investment Program grew from 3,219 in 2023 worth 3.43 trillion pesos to 4,240 in 2025 worth 4.71 trillion pesos. 182 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:15,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: A clear indication of the pipeline's expanding scale. 183 01:08:15,060 --> 01:08:34,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We also held two major international engagements last year, the Philippine Development Forum on October 6, 2025 and the Third Regional Network of Investment Promotion Dialogue on November 26, the same year. 184 01:08:35,380 --> 01:08:40,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Both platforms for coordinating support for the country's investment pipeline. 185 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: During the period, 186 01:08:43,300 --> 01:09:00,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the Department appraised 267 national and regional programs and projects with 98.9% of appraisals within the target deadlines, consistently above our 90% target. 187 01:09:01,220 --> 01:09:11,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Client satisfaction with the Investment Coordination Committee and the Infrastructure Development Committee ranged from 95% to 99% throughout the period, 188 01:09:12,420 --> 01:09:17,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: reflecting sustained confidence in our appraisal and coordination processes. 189 01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:28,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, DEPDev also undertakes several important activities under its National Development Monitoring and Evaluation Program, 190 01:09:29,460 --> 01:09:31,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: which advances accountability 191 01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:33,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with respect to the delivery 192 01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:34,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of major public investments. 193 01:09:34,940 --> 01:09:38,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: In one 194 01:09:38,140 --> 01:09:38,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the year's 195 01:09:38,780 --> 01:09:39,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: most 196 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:39,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: consequential 197 01:09:39,660 --> 01:09:40,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: exercises, 198 01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:41,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: our regional offices 199 01:09:41,220 --> 01:09:42,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: conducted a rapid 200 01:09:42,220 --> 01:09:42,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: on-site 201 01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:42,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: verification 202 01:09:42,980 --> 01:09:45,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of 203 01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:49,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 9,855 flood control projects nationwide, 204 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:56,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: physically validating 9,370 of them, or 95%, 205 01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:02,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with a combined reported cost of 545.64 billion pesos. 206 01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:05,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We submitted six project reports 207 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and a comprehensive report directly to the Office of the President. 208 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As of December 31, 2025, 209 01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:20,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we were monitoring 209 infrastructure flagship projects 210 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: worth a combined 10.6 trillion pesos, 211 01:10:25,020 --> 01:10:26,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: nine already completed, 212 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:28,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 81 ongoing, 213 01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:32,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and 27 approved and moving toward implementation. 214 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ODA remains the largest funding source, 215 01:10:37,660 --> 01:10:39,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: backing 80 of these projects, 216 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: worth 5.8 trillion pesos. 217 01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:47,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We strengthened the government's evaluation framework this year. 218 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: TEPDEV and DBM issued Joint Memorandum Circular No. 2025-02, 219 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: establishing the revised National Evaluation Policy Framework 220 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that now governs how government programs are assessed. 221 01:11:06,940 --> 01:11:08,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, we completed 16 regional projects, 222 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: including regional development reports across the period, 223 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: including the first-ever regional development report 224 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:18,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for the newly created Negros Island region. 225 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:25,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The Philippines also completed its fourth Voluntary National Review since 2016, 226 01:11:26,820 --> 01:11:28,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: spotlighting progress on various goals 227 01:11:28,940 --> 01:11:33,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and reaffirming our accountability to the global development agenda. 228 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: On September 29, 2025, 229 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we hosted the 12th M&E Network Forum, 230 01:11:42,940 --> 01:11:46,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: which highlighted the newly enacted Economy Planning and Development Act. 231 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, I also have reports on the performance 232 01:11:53,580 --> 01:11:59,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the various agencies attached to TEPDEV. 233 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We can skip these slides, 234 01:12:06,660 --> 01:12:08,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but we can return to them. 235 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:14,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: If there is any interest from the Honorable Senators 236 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in their interest of time, 237 01:12:17,260 --> 01:12:22,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so I can go directly to the financial performance, 238 01:12:22,860 --> 01:12:23,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: if you will. 239 01:12:24,740 --> 01:12:26,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And that's slide 21. 240 01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:33,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Okay. 241 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: What I'm now going to do is to proceed to 242 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: highlighting the TEPDEV's financial performance 243 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for Fiscal Year 2025 244 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and first semester of Fiscal Year 2026. 245 01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:53,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As of December 31, 2025, 246 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: TEPDEV and its attached agencies 247 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:03,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: received total allotments amounting to about 17 billion pesos. 248 01:13:03,940 --> 01:13:06,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Of this amount, 249 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 14.2 billion, 250 01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:11,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or roughly 251 01:13:11,020 --> 01:13:13,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 83.4% was obligated, 252 01:13:14,820 --> 01:13:16,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: while 11.89 billion, 253 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or roughly 83.76% of obligations was disbursed. 254 01:13:22,860 --> 01:13:27,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The figures reflect the agency's overall budget execution for 2025 255 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with the majority of available allotments 256 01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:32,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: already committed 257 01:13:32,420 --> 01:13:36,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and a substantial portion of obligations already paid. 258 01:13:38,140 --> 01:13:39,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Shown in the next slide, 259 01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:44,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is the Fiscal Year 2025 financial performance of TEPDEV 260 01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:46,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and its attached agencies. 261 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: At the agency level, 262 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: TEPDEV, the Office of the Secretary, 263 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: recorded an obligation rate of 91% 264 01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:59,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and a disbursement rate of 85.7%. 265 01:13:59,420 --> 01:14:04,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Most of the attached agencies also posted high utilization rates. 266 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The figures show that the majority of the 2025 financial performance 267 01:14:09,180 --> 01:14:10,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of TEPDEV and its attached agencies 268 01:14:10,180 --> 01:14:11,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: were utilized, 269 01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:15,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: while the remaining balances continue to be monitored 270 01:14:15,340 --> 01:14:19,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to further improve budget execution. 271 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The next slide. 272 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As of June 30, 2026, 273 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: TEPDEV and its attached agencies 274 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: have received a total allotment of 17.74 billion pesos. 275 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Of this amount, 276 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 7.01 billion, 277 01:14:39,180 --> 01:14:44,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 39.48% has been obligated, 278 01:14:44,180 --> 01:14:46,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: while 4.76 billion, 279 01:14:46,820 --> 01:14:51,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 67.9% of the obligations has been disbursed. 280 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: For the current year appropriations, 281 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the obligation rate is 41.89%, 282 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with 283 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a 70.09% 284 01:15:02,420 --> 01:15:04,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: distribution disbursement 285 01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:04,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: rate. 286 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: These figures, 287 01:15:08,140 --> 01:15:09,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, reflect the budget 288 01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:11,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: utilization as of the end of June 289 01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:13,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with the remaining 290 01:15:13,780 --> 01:15:15,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: balances continuing to be utilized and 291 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: monitored in the succeeding months. 292 01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:21,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Shown in the next slide is the financial 293 01:15:21,580 --> 01:15:23,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: performance of DEVDEV and its 294 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: attached agencies as of June 295 01:15:25,780 --> 01:15:27,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 30, 2026. 296 01:15:28,780 --> 01:15:29,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: At the agency 297 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: level, DEVDEV, OSEC 298 01:15:31,860 --> 01:15:34,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: has obligated 49% 299 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of its allotment 300 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with a 64.9% 301 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: disbursement rate. 302 01:15:40,620 --> 01:15:41,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Among the attached 303 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: agencies, DAP 304 01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:45,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or DAP has the highest 305 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: obligation rate of 99.36% 306 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:49,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: while 307 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: PPP Center has the lowest at 308 01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:53,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 11.08%. 309 01:15:53,380 --> 01:15:57,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: These figures are as of June 310 01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 30, 2026. 311 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And the agencies 312 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: continue to work toward improving 313 01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:06,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: obligation and disbursement 314 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: performance for the 315 01:16:07,740 --> 01:16:08,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: remainder of the year. 316 01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:11,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Let me now present 317 01:16:11,860 --> 01:16:13,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the trust and priorities of DEVDEV 318 01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:15,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for fiscal year 2027. 319 01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:21,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Secretary, sorry. Before we continue, 320 01:16:21,820 --> 01:16:23,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I would like to acknowledge the presence of 321 01:16:23,540 --> 01:16:25,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senators Raffy Tulfo, 322 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Erwin Tulfo, and Senator Kiko Pangilinan. 323 01:16:27,460 --> 01:16:28,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Please proceed. 324 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:29,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you. 325 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:30,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 326 01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: For fiscal year 2027, 327 01:16:34,340 --> 01:16:35,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DEVDEV will focus on 328 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: strengthening its role 329 01:16:36,980 --> 01:16:39,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: as the government's planning, 330 01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:41,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: policy advisory, and development 331 01:16:41,820 --> 01:16:43,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: coordination institution. 332 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:45,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: First, 333 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we will intensify proactive 334 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:48,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: policy advising, 335 01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:50,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: governance reforms, 336 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and monitoring and evaluation 337 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to support evidence-based 338 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:56,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: decision-making. 339 01:16:57,620 --> 01:16:58,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Second, 340 01:16:59,060 --> 01:16:59,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we will 341 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: update the nation's long-term 342 01:17:01,940 --> 01:17:03,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: vision, the Ambition 343 01:17:03,780 --> 01:17:04,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Natin 2040, 344 01:17:05,540 --> 01:17:08,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to ensure its continued relevance 345 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: amid emerging global 346 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and domestic challenges. 347 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Third, 348 01:17:15,980 --> 01:17:17,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we will implement program 349 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:18,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: convergence budgeting 350 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to strengthen alignment of government 351 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: investments and maximize 352 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:24,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: development impact. 353 01:17:25,940 --> 01:17:27,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Fourth, we will 354 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: complete the comprehensive infrastructure 355 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: development master plan 356 01:17:31,940 --> 01:17:35,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to guide strategic infrastructure investments nationwide. 357 01:17:37,020 --> 01:17:40,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We will also pursue high-impact initiatives 358 01:17:40,060 --> 01:17:42,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to address policy and regulatory constraints 359 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to innovation, 360 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: strengthen the capacities of local governments 361 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in planning, investment programming, 362 01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:51,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and evaluation, 363 01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:53,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and translate the outcomes 364 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the Philippine Development Forum 365 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: into concrete reforms 366 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and interagency actions. 367 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Finally, 368 01:18:01,620 --> 01:18:03,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we will continue strengthening 369 01:18:03,740 --> 01:18:05,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DevDev itself through 370 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: digital transformation, 371 01:18:07,980 --> 01:18:08,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: knowledge management, 372 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:10,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: organizational development, 373 01:18:11,500 --> 01:18:13,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and investment in our people 374 01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:15,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and systems, ensuring 375 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that the department remains a responsive, 376 01:18:18,380 --> 01:18:19,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: future-ready institution. 377 01:18:21,260 --> 01:18:23,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Let me now turn to the proposed budget 378 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for DevDev and its attached 379 01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:26,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: agencies. 380 01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:29,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The proposed 381 01:18:29,620 --> 01:18:31,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: budget for DevDev and its attached 382 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: agencies amount to 18.47 383 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: billion pesos. 384 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: By allotment class, 385 01:18:40,540 --> 01:18:41,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the proposed budget 386 01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:43,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is largely allocated to maintenance 387 01:18:43,380 --> 01:18:45,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and other operating expenses 388 01:18:45,220 --> 01:18:47,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or MOE at 12.8 389 01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:49,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: billion, representing 390 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 69.28% of the 391 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:52,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: total proposed budget. 392 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: This followed by 393 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:57,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: personal services at 394 01:18:57,060 --> 01:18:59,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 4.36 billion, 395 01:18:59,620 --> 01:19:01,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 23.63%, 396 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and capital 397 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: outlay at 1.31 billion, 398 01:19:06,140 --> 01:19:07,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 7.09%. 399 01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:13,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The next slide 400 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: presents the breakdown of our 401 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: proposed 18.47 402 01:19:17,380 --> 01:19:19,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: billion budget appropriation 403 01:19:19,820 --> 01:19:20,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: source. 404 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The agency-specific budget 405 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: accounts for the majority 406 01:19:25,780 --> 01:19:28,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at 18.13 407 01:19:28,060 --> 01:19:29,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: billion, or roughly 98% 408 01:19:29,620 --> 01:19:32,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the total 409 01:19:32,060 --> 01:19:32,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: proposed budget. 410 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:35,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Meanwhile, 411 01:19:36,020 --> 01:19:38,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 341.9 million, 412 01:19:38,740 --> 01:19:40,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 1.85%, 413 01:19:40,580 --> 01:19:42,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is appropriated 414 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: under automatic appropriations, 415 01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:45,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: primarily for the payment of 416 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: retirement and life insurance premiums. 417 01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:51,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The remaining 418 01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:54,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 4.49 million, or 0.02%, 419 01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:56,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is appropriated under 420 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: special accounts in the general fund, 421 01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: covered by the 422 01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:02,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Tariff Commission's Remedies 423 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Fund and the 424 01:20:03,740 --> 01:20:05,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: PSRTI Endowment Fund. 425 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The next slide 426 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: shows the breakdown 427 01:20:10,340 --> 01:20:11,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of our proposed budget by 428 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:12,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ATAT's agency. 429 01:20:14,740 --> 01:20:15,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Historically, 430 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:16,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: PSA gets 431 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the biggest chunk 432 01:20:20,260 --> 01:20:21,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: among the DepDev family. 433 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: For the fiscal year 434 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2027, PSA's proposed 435 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: budget is 13.03 436 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:29,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: billion pesos. 437 01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:34,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Or 70.56% 438 01:20:34,700 --> 01:20:35,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of our total budget. 439 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:37,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: This 440 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: followed by DepDev's 441 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: proper 442 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at 2.72 billion 443 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 14.73%. 444 01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:48,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The remaining 445 01:20:48,660 --> 01:20:50,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2.72 billion pesos 446 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 14.71% 447 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is distributed 448 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: among the other 449 01:20:56,180 --> 01:20:57,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: seven ATAT's agencies. 450 01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:02,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Shown on the screen 451 01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:05,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is the comparison 452 01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:06,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of DepDev's budget 453 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:07,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: based on the 454 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2026 JA 455 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the 2027 NEP. 456 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The 2027 NEP 457 01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:18,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: proposes 18.47 458 01:21:18,820 --> 01:21:19,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: billion, 459 01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: an overall 19.8% 460 01:21:22,580 --> 01:21:24,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: increase from the 2026 461 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:25,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: JA. 462 01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:28,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The increase is mainly 463 01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: driven by the PSA 464 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with a 4.13 billion 465 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:38,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or 46.34% 466 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:39,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: increase. 467 01:21:40,460 --> 01:21:41,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Meanwhile, 468 01:21:42,140 --> 01:21:43,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the DepDev OSAC's 469 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: budget decreases 470 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: by 89.17 million 471 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from 2.81 billion 472 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to 2.72 billion. 473 01:21:53,140 --> 01:21:54,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Other major 474 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: decreases are seen 475 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in the PPP Center 476 01:21:56,260 --> 01:21:57,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the DAP. 477 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:13,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Turning to the last part of our presentation, allow me to highlight some of the features of our proposed budget. 478 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: major allocations 479 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:16,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are for the annex 480 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and parking building project, 481 01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:20,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ICT-related expenditures, 482 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and rental for our central office, 483 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:25,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the rehabilitation 484 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of our regional offices. 485 01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:28,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We have also 486 01:22:28,740 --> 01:22:29,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: proposed funding 487 01:22:29,940 --> 01:22:31,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for the Innovation Fund 488 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: as well as 489 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: impact evaluation studies 490 01:22:35,060 --> 01:22:37,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to enable us 491 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to perform effectively 492 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the related mandates 493 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:41,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in our charter. 494 01:22:42,860 --> 01:22:44,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Under PSA, 495 01:22:45,140 --> 01:22:46,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the largest allocations 496 01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:49,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are for major 497 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:49,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: national programs, 498 01:22:51,420 --> 01:22:51,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: particularly 499 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 2027 500 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Community-Based 501 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Monitoring System 502 01:22:57,140 --> 01:22:58,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or CBMS 503 01:22:58,060 --> 01:22:58,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at 504 01:22:58,320 --> 01:22:59,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 5.06 505 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: billion pesos, 506 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:01,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the 507 01:23:01,380 --> 01:23:03,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Philippine 508 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:04,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Identification System 509 01:23:04,660 --> 01:23:05,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or PhilID 510 01:23:05,540 --> 01:23:08,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at 2.37 billion pesos. 511 01:23:10,940 --> 01:23:12,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The proposed budget 512 01:23:12,740 --> 01:23:14,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: also supports 513 01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:15,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: key programs 514 01:23:15,340 --> 01:23:16,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and undertakings 515 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: including the statistical 516 01:23:18,260 --> 01:23:19,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: frame integrating 517 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:21,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: geospatial information, 518 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Family Income and Expenditure 519 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:24,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Survey, 520 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the functional literacy, 521 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:27,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: education, 522 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and mass media survey 523 01:23:29,420 --> 01:23:30,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or FLEMMS, 524 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:32,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the annual survey 525 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of Philippine business 526 01:23:33,340 --> 01:23:34,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and industry, 527 01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:36,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: as well as the construction 528 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the PSA 529 01:23:37,340 --> 01:23:38,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Negros Oriental. 530 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: For the DAP, 531 01:23:44,220 --> 01:23:44,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: significant requirements 532 01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:46,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: include the DAP 533 01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:48,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: education and training program 534 01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:50,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at 608.5 million pesos 535 01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:52,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and research and technical 536 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: assistance 537 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at 204 million pesos. 538 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:57,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: For PIDS, 539 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we are requesting 540 01:24:00,060 --> 01:24:01,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: funding for its 541 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: socioeconomic policy 542 01:24:02,180 --> 01:24:03,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: research program 543 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the construction 544 01:24:04,860 --> 01:24:06,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the PIDS office building 545 01:24:06,500 --> 01:24:07,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at UP Diliman. 546 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The PPP Center's 547 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: major funding requirements 548 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: include the implementation 549 01:24:14,900 --> 01:24:16,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the project development 550 01:24:16,340 --> 01:24:17,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and monitoring facility 551 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or PDMF 552 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the agency's 553 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: rent expense. 554 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:24,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Finally, 555 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: PSRTI's major programs 556 01:24:27,020 --> 01:24:27,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are aimed at 557 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: enhancing the Philippine 558 01:24:29,780 --> 01:24:30,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: statistical system, 559 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: local government's capacity 560 01:24:33,020 --> 01:24:33,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: building, 561 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:36,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and SDG progress monitoring 562 01:24:36,340 --> 01:24:39,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: while CPD proposes 563 01:24:39,420 --> 01:24:40,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: funding for its 564 01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:42,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ICT-related projects. 565 01:24:43,860 --> 01:24:45,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: That concludes 566 01:24:45,180 --> 01:24:46,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: our presentation, 567 01:24:46,620 --> 01:24:47,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, 568 01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:48,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: our Honorable Senators. 569 01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:50,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We welcome your questions 570 01:24:50,440 --> 01:24:51,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and clarifications. 571 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you. 572 01:24:52,900 --> 01:24:54,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Secretary. 573 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:55,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At this point, 574 01:24:55,460 --> 01:24:56,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'd like to open the floor 575 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:57,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to our 576 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:57,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: colleagues 577 01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:58,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to ask 578 01:24:58,140 --> 01:24:58,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: questions. 579 01:24:59,500 --> 01:25:00,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: First to arrive 580 01:25:00,340 --> 01:25:01,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is 581 01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:02,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senator Panfilo Lacson. 582 01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:03,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sir, you have the floor. 583 01:25:04,340 --> 01:25:05,280 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 584 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,120 Senator Panfilo Lacson: I'm particularly interested 585 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,020 Senator Panfilo Lacson: in the implementation 586 01:25:09,020 --> 01:25:10,800 Senator Panfilo Lacson: of the National ID System. 587 01:25:12,420 --> 01:25:13,100 Senator Panfilo Lacson: You know, 588 01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:14,060 Senator Panfilo Lacson: when we were crafting 589 01:25:14,060 --> 01:25:16,780 Senator Panfilo Lacson: the National ID System law, 590 01:25:17,020 --> 01:25:17,880 Senator Panfilo Lacson: ako kasi yung 591 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,420 Senator Panfilo Lacson: principal sponsor. 592 01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:22,120 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Our intention was to integrate 593 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,120 Senator Panfilo Lacson: and consolidate, 594 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:23,520 Senator Panfilo Lacson: di ba? 595 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,100 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Lahat ng government IDs 596 01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:27,360 Senator Panfilo Lacson: kasi maraming tayong 597 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,300 Senator Panfilo Lacson: functional IDs. 598 01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:29,820 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang count namin 599 01:25:29,820 --> 01:25:30,580 Senator Panfilo Lacson: at that time was 600 01:25:30,580 --> 01:25:32,900 Senator Panfilo Lacson: at least 33 IDs. 601 01:25:33,580 --> 01:25:35,180 Senator Panfilo Lacson: And we wanted to, 602 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,760 Senator Panfilo Lacson: or our objective 603 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:37,720 Senator Panfilo Lacson: was to consolidate 604 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,540 Senator Panfilo Lacson: and integrate 605 01:25:38,540 --> 01:25:39,940 Senator Panfilo Lacson: into just one 606 01:25:39,940 --> 01:25:41,360 Senator Panfilo Lacson: singular ID 607 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:41,860 Senator Panfilo Lacson: called 608 01:25:41,860 --> 01:25:43,180 Senator Panfilo Lacson: the National ID. 609 01:25:44,060 --> 01:25:44,400 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, 610 01:25:44,620 --> 01:25:45,800 Senator Panfilo Lacson: ang question ko po is, 611 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:47,460 Senator Panfilo Lacson: how much has been spent 612 01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:48,020 Senator Panfilo Lacson: so far 613 01:25:48,020 --> 01:25:49,160 Senator Panfilo Lacson: since 614 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,500 Senator Panfilo Lacson: the law was passed 615 01:25:50,500 --> 01:25:51,320 Senator Panfilo Lacson: in 2018? 616 01:25:52,060 --> 01:25:53,080 Senator Panfilo Lacson: It's been 8 years. 617 01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:54,600 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang natatandang kong 618 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,620 Senator Panfilo Lacson: timeline natin dito 619 01:25:55,620 --> 01:25:57,320 Senator Panfilo Lacson: for full implementation, 620 01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,300 Senator Panfilo Lacson: was 5 years. 621 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,240 Senator Panfilo Lacson: If I'm not mistaken, 622 01:26:00,380 --> 01:26:00,900 Senator Panfilo Lacson: or less, ano? 623 01:26:01,580 --> 01:26:03,340 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, how much has been spent 624 01:26:03,340 --> 01:26:03,900 Senator Panfilo Lacson: so far? 625 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:05,040 Senator Panfilo Lacson: And, 626 01:26:05,580 --> 01:26:06,980 Senator Panfilo Lacson: what or how much more 627 01:26:06,980 --> 01:26:07,460 Senator Panfilo Lacson: do you need 628 01:26:07,460 --> 01:26:08,340 Senator Panfilo Lacson: to fully implement? 629 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:10,620 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Irarattle ko na lahat yung 630 01:26:10,620 --> 01:26:11,540 Senator Panfilo Lacson: rattle up ko na lahat yung 631 01:26:11,540 --> 01:26:12,280 Senator Panfilo Lacson: questions, ano? 632 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:12,920 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sunod-sunod. 633 01:26:13,340 --> 01:26:15,000 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Para sunod-sunod na rin 634 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:15,400 Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung sagot. 635 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,180 Senator Panfilo Lacson: What are the challenges 636 01:26:17,180 --> 01:26:18,820 Senator Panfilo Lacson: that you are facing, 637 01:26:18,900 --> 01:26:19,060 Senator Panfilo Lacson: ano? 638 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,600 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Na nakita nyo 639 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,200 Senator Panfilo Lacson: para hindi na 640 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:25,040 Senator Panfilo Lacson: pupuli implement? 641 01:26:25,980 --> 01:26:26,440 Senator Panfilo Lacson: And then, 642 01:26:26,440 --> 01:26:27,240 Senator Panfilo Lacson: another issue, 643 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:27,840 Senator Panfilo Lacson: issue is, 644 01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:29,440 Senator Panfilo Lacson: how are you 645 01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:29,920 Senator Panfilo Lacson: addressing 646 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,180 Senator Panfilo Lacson: the problem 647 01:26:32,180 --> 01:26:33,340 Senator Panfilo Lacson: of late registration 648 01:26:33,340 --> 01:26:34,880 Senator Panfilo Lacson: of birth? 649 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:36,480 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi, I understand 650 01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:37,280 Senator Panfilo Lacson: I was talking 651 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,200 Senator Panfilo Lacson: to some intelligence 652 01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,120 Senator Panfilo Lacson: personnel 653 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:39,920 Senator Panfilo Lacson: from the 654 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:40,900 Senator Panfilo Lacson: armed forces. 655 01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:42,240 Senator Panfilo Lacson: I think they have 656 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,100 Senator Panfilo Lacson: already discovered 657 01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:43,780 Senator Panfilo Lacson: thousands. 658 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,340 Senator Panfilo Lacson: And, most of these 659 01:26:45,340 --> 01:26:46,840 Senator Panfilo Lacson: late registration 660 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:47,560 Senator Panfilo Lacson: of birth 661 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,960 Senator Panfilo Lacson: cases 662 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:50,860 Senator Panfilo Lacson: from 663 01:26:50,860 --> 01:26:53,840 Senator Panfilo Lacson: China. 664 01:26:55,020 --> 01:26:55,320 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, 665 01:26:55,980 --> 01:26:57,340 Senator Panfilo Lacson: there could be 666 01:26:57,340 --> 01:26:58,900 Senator Panfilo Lacson: a national security 667 01:26:58,900 --> 01:27:00,680 Senator Panfilo Lacson: issue involved here. 668 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,420 Senator Panfilo Lacson: That's why we're interested 669 01:27:02,420 --> 01:27:05,300 Senator Panfilo Lacson: na mapuli implement na itong 670 01:27:05,300 --> 01:27:06,000 Senator Panfilo Lacson: national ID 671 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,200 Senator Panfilo Lacson: para hindi na tayo magulo. 672 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:08,120 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you. 673 01:27:08,460 --> 01:27:09,140 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Then, I'll ask 674 01:27:09,140 --> 01:27:10,460 Senator Panfilo Lacson: further questions later. 675 01:27:12,460 --> 01:27:14,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: My colleague from PSA 676 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: can directly answer 677 01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:15,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the question, 678 01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:15,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Your Honor. 679 01:27:16,620 --> 01:27:18,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yes, Usec Mapa. 680 01:27:18,620 --> 01:27:19,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Thank you very much, 681 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Mr. Chair, 682 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:20,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Your Honor. 683 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:22,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung national ID 684 01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:24,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: mula po nung 2018, 685 01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:24,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: tama po kayo, 686 01:27:24,980 --> 01:27:25,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Senator, 687 01:27:26,140 --> 01:27:27,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: hanggang 2026, 688 01:27:27,340 --> 01:27:27,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ang 689 01:27:27,940 --> 01:27:29,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: nabigay sa kanya 690 01:27:29,820 --> 01:27:30,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na pondo 691 01:27:30,340 --> 01:27:30,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is about 692 01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:32,360 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 26.21 693 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: billion pesos. 694 01:27:34,700 --> 01:27:35,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Tapos, 695 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:36,200 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung na-obligate 696 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:36,660 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na po ng 697 01:27:36,660 --> 01:27:37,900 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Philippine Statistics Authority 698 01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:38,740 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ay mga nasa 699 01:27:38,740 --> 01:27:39,740 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 24 billion, 700 01:27:40,220 --> 01:27:40,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: more or less. 701 01:27:41,460 --> 01:27:42,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Hindi pa tapos 702 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:42,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung 2026. 703 01:27:43,780 --> 01:27:44,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung ating 704 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:45,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na-rehistro 705 01:27:45,820 --> 01:27:46,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na mga 706 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:47,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: citizens 707 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:48,740 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: nasa 708 01:27:48,740 --> 01:27:49,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 97 million. 709 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:51,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, parang yung 710 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: average cost 711 01:27:52,180 --> 01:27:53,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: per registrant 712 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is mga 713 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:55,460 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 250 to 714 01:27:55,460 --> 01:27:56,300 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 260 pesos. 715 01:27:57,340 --> 01:27:58,700 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, 97 million po. 716 01:27:58,940 --> 01:28:00,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung population 717 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:00,660 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: natin, 718 01:28:00,780 --> 01:28:01,540 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: estimate ngayong 719 01:28:01,540 --> 01:28:02,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 2026, 720 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,520 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is 114 million. 721 01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:06,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, mayroon pa tayong 722 01:28:06,180 --> 01:28:07,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: mga hindi na-rehistro 723 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:08,480 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na 17 million. 724 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:09,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ang karamihan nito, 725 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:10,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: dalawa yung 726 01:28:10,580 --> 01:28:11,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: big bulk. 727 01:28:12,180 --> 01:28:13,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: The first one 728 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:14,360 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: are the 0 to 4, 729 01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:14,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung mga bata. 730 01:28:15,460 --> 01:28:16,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Hindi pa naman sila 731 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: kailangan i-rehistro 732 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:18,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: pero nag-re-register 733 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:18,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na rin kami. 734 01:28:19,140 --> 01:28:20,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Siguro yung gap 735 01:28:20,220 --> 01:28:20,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: natin dyan 736 01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:21,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is mga 7 million 737 01:28:21,940 --> 01:28:23,540 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: out of the 17. 738 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:24,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And then, 739 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:25,540 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the big bulk 740 01:28:25,540 --> 01:28:26,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na malaki pa 741 01:28:26,820 --> 01:28:27,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung hindi na-rehistro. 742 01:28:27,340 --> 01:28:27,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Hindi na-rehistro 743 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung overseas Pilipinos. 744 01:28:30,020 --> 01:28:30,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Before, 745 01:28:31,220 --> 01:28:32,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: pumupunta kami palagi 746 01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:33,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ang Middle East. 747 01:28:33,500 --> 01:28:34,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Marami doon 748 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:34,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: hindi registered. 749 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:36,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But because of the 750 01:28:36,340 --> 01:28:38,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: current security concern, 751 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:39,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: hindi nakakapunta 752 01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:40,700 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung Philippine Statistics Authority. 753 01:28:40,780 --> 01:28:41,280 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But once 754 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: it is opened, 755 01:28:42,900 --> 01:28:43,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: we will continue 756 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the registration. 757 01:28:45,340 --> 01:28:46,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, yung bulk po 758 01:28:46,220 --> 01:28:47,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na nandito sa 759 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: bansa natin, 760 01:28:48,140 --> 01:28:48,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung mga adults, 761 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:50,460 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: except for very few, 762 01:28:50,980 --> 01:28:51,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: we have already 763 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:52,540 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: registered them 764 01:28:52,540 --> 01:28:54,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: to the National ID System. 765 01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:55,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: What's important, 766 01:28:55,980 --> 01:28:57,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: siguro, 767 01:28:57,700 --> 01:28:58,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung sa 768 01:28:58,260 --> 01:28:59,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: National ID, 769 01:28:59,540 --> 01:29:00,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung uses niya. 770 01:29:01,140 --> 01:29:02,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung gamit kasi niya 771 01:29:02,420 --> 01:29:03,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is authentication 772 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: to verify 773 01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:05,480 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: whether you are 774 01:29:05,480 --> 01:29:06,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: that person 775 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,280 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: utilizing 776 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:07,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: demographic, 777 01:29:08,900 --> 01:29:09,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: of course, 778 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:10,900 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and biometrics. 779 01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:12,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, yung ibang ID kasi, 780 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:13,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: demographic lang yun. 781 01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:14,540 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, pwede natin 782 01:29:14,540 --> 01:29:15,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ma-fake. 783 01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:15,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But yung 784 01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:17,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: National ID, 785 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:18,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: it captures 786 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: both demographic 787 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and biometric. 788 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:21,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Itong 2026, 789 01:29:22,740 --> 01:29:23,660 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: substantial po 790 01:29:23,660 --> 01:29:24,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung authentication 791 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:24,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na 792 01:29:24,980 --> 01:29:25,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: gamitin. 793 01:29:25,980 --> 01:29:26,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ginamit yung 794 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:27,520 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: National ID, 795 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:28,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: both for government 796 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and private 797 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:31,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: authentication, 798 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:33,700 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 114 million 799 01:29:33,700 --> 01:29:34,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: from January 800 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: to September 15 801 01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:38,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ang nag-authenticate 802 01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:39,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: utilizing the 803 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:40,800 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: National ID. 804 01:29:41,300 --> 01:29:42,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And the bulk of this 805 01:29:42,340 --> 01:29:43,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: are from the 806 01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:44,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: private sector, 807 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:45,480 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung financial. 808 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:47,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, the private sector, 809 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:48,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: particularly the banks 810 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and financial agencies, 811 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: feels that the National ID 812 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:55,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is the database itself. 813 01:29:55,980 --> 01:29:57,280 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: It's a clean, 814 01:29:57,480 --> 01:29:59,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: valid database 815 01:29:59,220 --> 01:29:59,700 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: of 816 01:29:59,700 --> 01:30:00,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: individuals. 817 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:19,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Kaya ginagamit nila ang ating national ID system for authentication. Either facial recognition or di kaya yung fingerprint. So we feel, although mayroon tayong delay per timetable, one, because of the COVID, medyo nahihirapan tayo din sa COVID. 818 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:32,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But right now, ang ating projection sa authentication versus registration, kasi sa mga national ID ng ibang bansa, tinitingnan nila ilan ba yung nag-authenticate versus nag-register. 819 01:30:32,440 --> 01:30:49,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So ang ating projection ngayong taon, mga nasa 1.5 times na-registered. So that would be about 150 million. But as we progress, aabot tayo dapat sa mga 4 to 5 authentications per registered person. 820 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:59,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So dapat mga nasa 4 million to 5 million per year. Yun po yung datos ngayon, Mr. Chair, Your Honor. 821 01:30:59,380 --> 01:31:17,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: On the question sa late registration, I agree sa observation. Ang registration kasi sa birth certificate, una, it's a universal right. Everybody, Pilipinos, must be registered. 822 01:31:17,260 --> 01:31:32,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: That's why the Philippine Statistics Authority is really putting program for the registration. Right now, Your Honor, ang ating registered persons, mga 97% of the total population. 823 01:31:33,340 --> 01:31:44,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So mayroon pa tayong mga 3% na hindi pa na-register. So multiply again by about 114 million, so mga 3.5 million pa ang hindi re-registrado. Substantial number ay nasa BARM. 824 01:31:44,340 --> 01:31:47,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: About half of the registered sa BARM. 825 01:31:47,260 --> 01:32:05,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Now, ito rin po, dahil may late registration tayo, hindi kasi natin pwedeng itigil yung late registration kasi kawawa naman yung mga Pilipino na wala silang birth certificate. But of course, may problem tayo na yung mga non-Filipinos that are registered. 826 01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,980 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Mr. Chair, with the indulgence of [unclear], can I interject? 827 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:10,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, sir. 828 01:32:10,140 --> 01:32:14,380 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Sa late registration, kasi matagal na itong pinag-usapan ni Park sa mga previous hearings, I raised this question. 829 01:32:14,940 --> 01:32:17,240 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Yung sa late registration, where will it end? 830 01:32:17,260 --> 01:32:29,760 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Sabi mo, walang katapusan ito. Dapat meron. Dapat darating yung time na wala ng late registration. Sa ngayon kasi, ang tanong ko, so paano yung compliance sa personal appearance, paano nyo po in-implement sa late registration? 831 01:32:29,980 --> 01:32:42,220 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Kasi dito nagkakaproblema eh. Maraming mga Chinese nationals, hindi lang Chinese nationals, even other nationals, nakakalusot na nakuha sila ng Filipino citizenship through late registration. So how can we avoid that? 832 01:32:42,220 --> 01:32:46,900 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Sabi mo kasi, it will be ongoing yung late registration. 833 01:32:47,260 --> 01:32:55,980 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Sa akin, the way I foresee it, sana magkaroon ng stop. Sa ngayon pa lamang siguro, I suggest, magkaroon tayo ng tinatawag ng amnesty na I'll give you one year. Lahat. Dapat. 834 01:32:56,380 --> 01:33:04,440 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Lahat ng registration by after a year, tapos na. And then the following year, tablado na lahat and then umpisa na tayo from scratch. 835 01:33:04,860 --> 01:33:15,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Tama po yun, Your Honor, Senator. Mayroon nga ang PSA na proposal for the President to issue an executive order para kunin na natin itong, ano na lang, konti na lang, 3% of our population. 836 01:33:17,260 --> 01:33:28,640 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Na para lumabas sila at yung mga fees, kasi minsan may mga hand runs sa late registration, may mga bayad, na para wala na talagang bayad. 837 01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:41,340 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And nag-introduce ang PSA two years ago, Your Honor, Senators, ng isang step para magkaroon nga ng personal appearance. At yun yung registration sa national ID. 838 01:33:41,340 --> 01:33:46,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So we issued a memo that if you are a late registrant sa birth certificate, 839 01:33:47,260 --> 01:33:53,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: you must have to appear so that the national ID team can get your biometric and demographic. 840 01:33:53,600 --> 01:34:01,480 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But I agree with you, Senator Raffy, na kailangan talaga may time limit para at least makover yung substantial percentage. 841 01:34:01,500 --> 01:34:07,440 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: So in that way, wala ba kayong plano na hanggang kailan matapos itong registration system natin? 842 01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:15,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: We have actually a program, Your Honor, Senator, yung birth registration assistance program at nabawasan po kasi noong 2020, 843 01:34:15,180 --> 01:34:22,900 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ang ating late registration ay mga close to 4 million. And since then, we're able to register about 600,000. 844 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:29,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Hinahanap namin sila, pababa na rin naman yung number of unregistered. 845 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:38,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And as I've mentioned, the PSA actually proposed to the Office of the President for an issuance of an executive order, precisely yung sinabi ninyo, 846 01:34:38,180 --> 01:34:42,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na parang one year para supportahan lahat, lalabas yung mga hindi registered. 847 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But at least after that, konti na lang talaga yung... 848 01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:48,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung unregistered individuals natin. Your Honor, thank you. 849 01:34:50,640 --> 01:35:00,700 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Sir Chairman, yeah. Yusef Gad, Dennis, how many more national and local government units or agencies use their own IDs? 850 01:35:01,500 --> 01:35:04,440 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung baka nakakonsolidate sa national ID. 851 01:35:04,440 --> 01:35:14,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Okay. May mga agencies na gumagamit ng kanilang ID pa rin, Your Honor. Pero yung gamit, sabi ko nga kanina, yung gamit kasi ng national ID, 852 01:35:15,180 --> 01:35:25,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the authentication. So for example, yung mga social protection programs natin, like 4Ps, lahat sila, ang ginagamit na database is the national ID database. 853 01:35:25,740 --> 01:35:32,460 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: At yung iba pa, like Dolly 2Pod, we started also, na authenticated sila using the national ID database. 854 01:35:32,460 --> 01:35:39,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Kasi nakikita namin kung may mga duplicates eh, because of your biometrics. So doon nakikita na ikaw pala yun. 855 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:44,460 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And as we discussed, sa mga social protection program, we really encourage that... 856 01:35:45,180 --> 01:35:51,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the agency will utilize as the database, the national ID database, because of the biometric authentication. 857 01:35:52,600 --> 01:36:02,660 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Now, does the PSA have any effort to purge yung ating system of yung mga pictures or dubious? 858 01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:13,820 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yes, duplicate. Not only duplicate, yung nakapremise doon sa data registration na dubious yung pag-acquire ng national ID. 859 01:36:13,820 --> 01:36:14,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. 860 01:36:15,180 --> 01:36:22,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. Yung una muna, doon sa late registration ng non-Filipinos, the PSA is very proactive. 861 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,300 Senator Panfilo Lacson: How many have already been purged? 862 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:33,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: About 1,600 po yung nabigay, nablock na namin sa system at automatically pinapadala namin sa Office of the Solicitor General. 863 01:36:33,820 --> 01:36:37,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Kasi po yung cancellation ng birth certificate ay talagang through court. 864 01:36:38,860 --> 01:36:44,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And that's why mayroon tayong CRBS, Civil Registration of Vital Statistics. 865 01:36:45,180 --> 01:36:56,540 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: We have a bill in the Senate and we are actually requesting, kasi may provision kaming nire-request na administrative cancellation na lang yung subvert registration. 866 01:36:56,660 --> 01:36:58,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Kasi may hirap po talaga pag-court. 867 01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:04,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But we are already, automatically may investigation tayong ginagawa through PSA. 868 01:37:04,460 --> 01:37:08,660 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And then once ma-establish namin na hindi talaga ito Pilipino, we block them. 869 01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And we have blocked so far, close to 1,600. 870 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,560 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Can you submit to the committee the list of those... 871 01:37:15,180 --> 01:37:17,900 Senator Panfilo Lacson: late registration cases na na-purge nyo na? 872 01:37:18,620 --> 01:37:20,620 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So we can pursue further investigation? 873 01:37:21,380 --> 01:37:22,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. 874 01:37:22,940 --> 01:37:27,840 Senator Panfilo Lacson: To deal with these people and those responsible behind the late registration. 875 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,080 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Because this is a big, you know, scam ito, di ba? 876 01:37:32,180 --> 01:37:32,460 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yes. 877 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:38,720 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Alam nyo rin naman, we've heard of 500,000 pesos per late registration of birth and so forth and so on. 878 01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:45,160 Senator Panfilo Lacson: But I'm more particularly concerned about the national security issue. 879 01:37:45,180 --> 01:37:52,660 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi kung may mga sleeper agents, mga sales dito, delikado tayo, di ba? 880 01:37:53,300 --> 01:37:57,920 Senator Panfilo Lacson: And we're talking of thousands or even tens of thousands of these people. 881 01:37:58,620 --> 01:38:00,500 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Well, you can just imagine. 882 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. 883 01:38:02,780 --> 01:38:08,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Every time we have the data on block, tawag namin doon block kasi binablock namin sa system, 884 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:13,900 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: this information are shared with our national security agencies, 885 01:38:14,060 --> 01:38:15,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: including po yung Bureau. 886 01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:15,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. 887 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But we can provide the Senate, the committee, on the names po. 888 01:38:19,620 --> 01:38:19,740 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yes. 889 01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:27,220 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Earlier on, kasi nagkaroon ng issue, I was called by dating Secretary Carl Chua 890 01:38:27,220 --> 01:38:33,300 Senator Panfilo Lacson: because there seemed to be a problem with the PILSIS number. 891 01:38:34,060 --> 01:38:37,760 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi sa batas, nakalagay on its face, di ba? 892 01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:44,500 Senator Panfilo Lacson: But I think I was told that the World Bank had some concerns about data privacy. 893 01:38:45,180 --> 01:38:47,000 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So tinago natin yung PILSIS number, 894 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:54,740 Senator Panfilo Lacson: ang nakalagay sa ating card, on its face, yung temporary or not the real PILSIS number. 895 01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:56,600 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Di ba? 896 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:57,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. 897 01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,440 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So how do we resolve that? 898 01:38:59,480 --> 01:38:59,700 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Okay. 899 01:38:59,940 --> 01:39:08,240 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ang promise ko sa kanya noon, maybe we need to amend the law para maalis yung on its face. 900 01:39:08,620 --> 01:39:14,580 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi I agree that the PILSIS number should be hidden somewhere. 901 01:39:14,580 --> 01:39:16,480 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Pero binibigyan niyo maliit na card eh. 902 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:17,580 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung iba, nawala na eh. 903 01:39:18,540 --> 01:39:21,800 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Ako ay, you know, milagaw sa notes ko eh. 904 01:39:22,700 --> 01:39:25,280 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kaya memoryado ko yung aking PILSIS number. 905 01:39:25,420 --> 01:39:34,920 Senator Panfilo Lacson: But how about those who lost that piece of paper and what they only have is the temporary or the not the PILSIS number? 906 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:36,100 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yun ang problema. 907 01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:42,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung nakalagay, tama po kayo, Your Honor, Senator, yung nakalagay dun sa ating card, ano? 908 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung what we call the PILSIS card. 909 01:39:44,580 --> 01:39:44,700 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung PILSIS number. 910 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:46,860 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But tokenized po yan siya. 911 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:51,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ibig sabihin at the back end, nakalink po siya dun sa ating PILSIS number. 912 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:57,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But I agree, baka dun sa ating proposed amendment to the PILSIS Act, 913 01:39:58,500 --> 01:40:03,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ayusin na lang natin na hindi dapat naka-expose yung PILSIS number. 914 01:40:03,460 --> 01:40:04,740 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Kasi siya lang po yung mag-isa talaga. 915 01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,500 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Otherwise, we keep violating the law. 916 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:07,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: In a way po. 917 01:40:08,180 --> 01:40:10,740 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Pero nandoon naman po, wala ka print siya. 918 01:40:10,740 --> 01:40:11,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yeah. 919 01:40:12,700 --> 01:40:14,520 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Kasi kung offline, 920 01:40:14,580 --> 01:40:15,480 Senator Panfilo Lacson: hindi na makikita. 921 01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:17,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Pag offline na authentication, 922 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ginagawa lang po namin ngayon na mag-introduce kasi may bago namang technology. 923 01:40:21,860 --> 01:40:24,900 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: In fact, one of the section dun sa PILSIS Act is the introduction of technology. 924 01:40:25,260 --> 01:40:29,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Pwede na pong ma-link pa rin kahit na offline authentication, Your Honor. 925 01:40:29,540 --> 01:40:31,580 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Now, another common violation of the law, 926 01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:36,060 Senator Panfilo Lacson: yung the requirement of a second ID. 927 01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:42,060 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Hindi lahat ng transactions with the government agencies as well as private institutions, 928 01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:44,400 Senator Panfilo Lacson: pumapayag na yung, 929 01:40:44,580 --> 01:40:45,740 Senator Panfilo Lacson: ah, singular ID. 930 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,140 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Nangingin na second ID. 931 01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:48,800 Senator Panfilo Lacson: And I'll read to you, ah, section 19, 932 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:50,080 Senator Panfilo Lacson: penal provision. 933 01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:52,480 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Meron ditong, ah, 934 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,500 Senator Panfilo Lacson: pag hindi tinanggap without just and sufficient cost, 935 01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:02,420 Senator Panfilo Lacson: ah, shall refuse to accept, acknowledge, and or recognize the PIL ID or PSN. 936 01:41:03,060 --> 01:41:04,160 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Subject to authentication. 937 01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:05,920 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Meron ditong, 938 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,720 Senator Panfilo Lacson: shall be fined in the amount of 500,000 pesos. 939 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,320 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, I don't think this is being implemented, no? 940 01:41:13,700 --> 01:41:14,380 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Because of the, 941 01:41:14,380 --> 01:41:16,800 Senator Panfilo Lacson: ah, failure, ah, in the implementation. 942 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:18,300 Senator Panfilo Lacson: In the full implementation. 943 01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:19,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yeah. 944 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,700 Senator Panfilo Lacson: And I don't want this to be a dead letter law. 945 01:41:22,500 --> 01:41:28,480 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ah, sa ngayon po, ah, Your Honor, yung, ah, ah, Senator, yung aming strategy, ah, una, ah, 946 01:41:28,660 --> 01:41:32,520 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: first, yung datos natin, yung mga hindi tumatanggap, bumababa na yung number. 947 01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:34,800 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, nung simula kasi mataas talaga. 948 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:40,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Pero ngayon, kasi every month po, tinatrack namin ito from the field offices and feedback mechanism, 949 01:41:41,180 --> 01:41:41,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: bumababa na siya. 950 01:41:42,260 --> 01:41:44,360 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ang aming munang, ah, Your Honor, Senator, is, ah, 951 01:41:44,380 --> 01:41:47,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: discussion, particularly with the regulatory agency, 952 01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:49,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: in particular, Banko Sentral ng Pilipinas. 953 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, every time may mga financial, ah, institutions tayo na hindi tumatanggap, 954 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: we, ah, we write the BSP and report them. 955 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:01,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ah, yung mga agencies naman, ah, na government agencies, yun sa lahat na namin, 956 01:42:02,180 --> 01:42:05,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ah, ang mga naiwan na lang ngayon, ah, Your Honor, Senator, yung mga nasa probinsya. 957 01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:09,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, yung mga rare na nakikita namin, it's in the province. 958 01:42:09,820 --> 01:42:14,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Siguro baka yung hindi nabasa yung memo, but we are, ah, ah, putting in, ah, 959 01:42:14,260 --> 01:42:16,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: a strong information campaign on this. 960 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, encouragement muna ngayon, ah, Your Honors, ah, Mr. Senator, yung aming ginagamit. 961 01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:24,860 Senator Panfilo Lacson: I'm not sure if you're at liberty to, ah, inform the committee at this point, ano, 962 01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:29,380 Senator Panfilo Lacson: but I heard, during the initial phase of the implementation, medyo nagkagulo 963 01:42:29,380 --> 01:42:32,200 Senator Panfilo Lacson: because meron niya tanakialam sa kontrata. 964 01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:40,420 Senator Panfilo Lacson: The, ah, without giving any details, ano, would you confirm that? 965 01:42:40,660 --> 01:42:44,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ah, we had, ah, sa operation siguro, ah, Your Honor, ah, Senator, 966 01:42:44,260 --> 01:42:48,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ang, ang operations natin na nagkaroon tayo ng problema is the printing of the physical card before. 967 01:42:49,380 --> 01:42:53,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, ah, but, but this was, ah, settled already, ah, two years ago. 968 01:42:53,660 --> 01:42:58,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: We, ah, withdraw, ah, from the memorandum of agreement with the Bank of Central Pilipinas 969 01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:02,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: because the service provider was not able to deliver as promised. 970 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And, ah, we are now, ah, starting with a new service provider. 971 01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, kung may problem po, ah, yun siguro naisip ko na, na problem. 972 01:43:10,420 --> 01:43:14,100 Senator Panfilo Lacson: So, without, you know, without giving details, more or less, you admit, 973 01:43:14,260 --> 01:43:17,120 Senator Panfilo Lacson: no, nagkaroon ng, ah, glitches. 974 01:43:17,500 --> 01:43:23,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ah, yeah, glitches, pero, ah, I'm not, I'm not, ah, about, about the, ah, issue on the contract. 975 01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:24,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But there was a glitch on the printing. 976 01:43:24,940 --> 01:43:28,280 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Narinig ko major glitch yun, eh, kasi meron nakasingit, eh. 977 01:43:29,380 --> 01:43:30,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ah, yung... 978 01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:30,980 Senator Panfilo Lacson: You're there already, di ba? 979 01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:33,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Di, ah, ano, siguro, ah... 980 01:43:33,380 --> 01:43:35,300 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Siguro marami nagpapasin itong batas, eh. 981 01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:37,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, ah, yes, eh. 982 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:37,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And you would know. 983 01:43:38,260 --> 01:43:39,360 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ang, ang, ang, ah... 984 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:39,960 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Never mind, never mind. 985 01:43:40,020 --> 01:43:41,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yeah, what, what I can... 986 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:41,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Nakaintindihan na tayo. 987 01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:43,660 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Okay, thank you very much, ah, Your Honor. 988 01:43:43,660 --> 01:43:44,240 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 989 01:43:44,260 --> 01:43:45,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. 990 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:53,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just to add doon sa [unclear] ni Senator Lacson, some agencies are requiring two, di ba? 991 01:43:53,540 --> 01:43:54,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Two government IDs. 992 01:43:55,540 --> 01:44:00,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It's the, the, is this, ang, ang, rason ba dahil wala tayong signature doon sa PhilSys natin? 993 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:01,940 Senator Panfilo Lacson: I'm sorry, ano, if I may add. 994 01:44:02,460 --> 01:44:03,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, please. 995 01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,160 Senator Panfilo Lacson: That was beyond his control. 996 01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:05,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: O nga. 997 01:44:05,380 --> 01:44:07,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ede, pero yun ba ang, isa, ibang isa sa rason? 998 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:08,920 Senator Panfilo Lacson: Yung glitch na sinabi ko. 999 01:44:08,940 --> 01:44:09,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ah, glitch, okay. 1000 01:44:09,900 --> 01:44:10,760 Senator Panfilo Lacson: I'm not a member of that. 1001 01:44:11,260 --> 01:44:12,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, just to clarify. 1002 01:44:12,220 --> 01:44:12,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay. 1003 01:44:13,340 --> 01:44:14,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Di ba, yung ano, ano... 1004 01:44:14,220 --> 01:44:17,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Is it the reason yung dahil walang pera may, walang signature? 1005 01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:20,520 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Maraming mga rason na nangyayari, ano. 1006 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:27,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Una, Your Honor, first, any new na iniintroduce natin may mga adjustments talaga. 1007 01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:33,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And sabi ko nga, we agree at the start talagang mataas yung ating, mataas yung ating non-acceptance 1008 01:44:33,740 --> 01:44:36,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: or nagre-require ng additional ID. 1009 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:42,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But the numbers, because we are tracking it, and we can share with you the monthly report that we have, 1010 01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:44,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: it's going down. 1011 01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:55,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And right now kasi, Your Honor, yung gamit ngayon ng national ID is really the authentication using facial recognition or the fingerprint. 1012 01:44:56,020 --> 01:44:58,860 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And yun yung ginagamit, like for example, yung mga fintech natin. 1013 01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:00,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, that's not... 1014 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: require anymore the signature. 1015 01:45:02,260 --> 01:45:03,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But I have to admit that at the start, 1016 01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: parang yun yung naging problema. 1017 01:45:05,980 --> 01:45:07,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's why the others asked for 1018 01:45:07,540 --> 01:45:08,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: other 1019 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:10,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: identification. 1020 01:45:11,580 --> 01:45:14,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, Senator Kiko Pangilinan, 1021 01:45:14,020 --> 01:45:14,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: then Senator Tulfo. 1022 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If there is already a national 1023 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ID, why require 1024 01:45:19,940 --> 01:45:20,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: two? 1025 01:45:22,900 --> 01:45:23,460 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: That's 1026 01:45:23,460 --> 01:45:24,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: why, Your Honor, 1027 01:45:25,140 --> 01:45:27,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the Banco Central as 1028 01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:28,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: one of our partners, 1029 01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:29,860 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is very 1030 01:45:29,860 --> 01:45:31,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: clear sa instruction. 1031 01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ang reading ko naman dito 1032 01:45:34,420 --> 01:45:36,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: is that, as I said, the numbers 1033 01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:38,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: of requiring 1034 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:39,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: two is now decreasing. 1035 01:45:40,740 --> 01:45:42,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For example, I understand, sorry. 1036 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:44,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The SEC 1037 01:45:44,260 --> 01:45:45,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: requires two. 1038 01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:47,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you register a new company, 1039 01:45:48,540 --> 01:45:50,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: why two? Why not just a national 1040 01:45:50,580 --> 01:45:50,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ID? 1041 01:45:52,460 --> 01:45:53,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Di ba? 1042 01:45:53,700 --> 01:45:55,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: We will reach out. 1043 01:45:55,140 --> 01:45:57,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: May passport, 1044 01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:57,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kailangan. 1045 01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: May lisensya, kailangan may ID. 1046 01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:02,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, I don't think they 1047 01:46:02,900 --> 01:46:05,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't think they acceptin 1048 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sa SEC for some strange 1049 01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:07,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: reason. 1050 01:46:09,140 --> 01:46:09,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But yeah, two. 1051 01:46:11,660 --> 01:46:12,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anyway, 1052 01:46:12,860 --> 01:46:14,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so you're saying 1053 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as time goes by 1054 01:46:17,020 --> 01:46:19,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and with your interventions 1055 01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:20,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and your campaigning 1056 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to promote it, 1057 01:46:22,220 --> 01:46:23,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: more and more 1058 01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:25,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will accept. 1059 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:27,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But I think, you know, government is 1060 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:28,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: government. 1061 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:29,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It should be quick enough to 1062 01:46:29,820 --> 01:46:31,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: decide, di ba? 1063 01:46:32,500 --> 01:46:34,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That the national ID 1064 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: should suffice. 1065 01:46:36,340 --> 01:46:37,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. 1066 01:46:38,500 --> 01:46:40,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung datos kasi na nakikita namin, 1067 01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,200 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: for example, in 2025, the whole 2025, 1068 01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:44,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: only 30 million, 30.6 1069 01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: million authentication were made. 1070 01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:48,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But in 2026, 1071 01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: from January to September 15, 1072 01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 114 million authentications 1073 01:46:52,580 --> 01:46:54,520 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: were made. So, as I mentioned 1074 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: kanina, yun yung sabi ko na, 1075 01:46:56,020 --> 01:46:57,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the data suggests that 1076 01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:58,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the 1077 01:46:58,600 --> 01:46:59,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: transition is now 1078 01:46:59,820 --> 01:47:01,900 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: accelerating and 1079 01:47:01,900 --> 01:47:04,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yes, yes. 1080 01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, yun po yung datos natin ngayon, 1081 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:08,300 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Your Honor. Thank you very much. 1082 01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:10,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, Senator Tulfo. 1083 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,700 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Mr. Chair, meron pala akong 1084 01:47:12,700 --> 01:47:14,660 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: opening statement and then 1085 01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:15,580 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: after that, one suggestion. 1086 01:47:15,580 --> 01:47:17,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Please proceed. 1087 01:47:17,260 --> 01:47:18,300 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Mr. Chairman, 1088 01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:20,580 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: I would like to propose a strategic 1089 01:47:20,580 --> 01:47:22,440 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: initiative for the Senate 1090 01:47:22,440 --> 01:47:25,100 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: to address critical vulnerabilities 1091 01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:26,580 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: in the Philippine 1092 01:47:26,580 --> 01:47:28,300 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Civil Registry System. 1093 01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,580 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: The current framework is highly 1094 01:47:30,580 --> 01:47:32,780 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: susceptible to identity laundering, 1095 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:34,240 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: fraud, and birth 1096 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,540 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: simulation as highlighted 1097 01:47:36,540 --> 01:47:37,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: by the high-profile 1098 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,240 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Go'o Huangping, yung alis Go'o, 1099 01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:42,480 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: alam natin lahat, national security case. 1100 01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:44,100 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Because standard Philippine 1101 01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:46,060 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: statistic authority forms 1102 01:47:46,060 --> 01:47:48,540 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: omit crucial parental details 1103 01:47:48,540 --> 01:47:50,600 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: such as exact dates of 1104 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,380 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: birth, former or dual 1105 01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:54,260 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: nationalities, and known 1106 01:47:54,260 --> 01:47:56,440 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: aliases, foreign nationals, and 1107 01:47:56,440 --> 01:47:58,000 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: transnational criminal entities, 1108 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: have systematically exploited 1109 01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:02,640 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: late birth registrations. 1110 01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:04,520 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Given that the Philippines 1111 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,500 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: registers 1.2 million 1112 01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,600 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: to 1.4 million births annually, 1113 01:48:10,260 --> 01:48:11,720 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: this regulatory gap 1114 01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:13,180 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: creates a massive window 1115 01:48:13,180 --> 01:48:14,760 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: for identity manipulations. 1116 01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:17,000 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: To permanently resolve this structural 1117 01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,180 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: weakness, I am recommending to the 1118 01:48:19,180 --> 01:48:20,340 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: DOJ to explore 1119 01:48:20,340 --> 01:48:23,340 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: and find ways to coordinate 1120 01:48:23,340 --> 01:48:24,920 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: with the ALG in amending 1121 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,100 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: all primary PSA Civil 1122 01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:28,300 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Registry entry forms, 1123 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,040 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: birth, marriage, and death, 1124 01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,060 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: to mandate the inclusion of 1125 01:48:32,060 --> 01:48:33,640 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: parents' exact dates of birth, 1126 01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:36,180 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: full aliases, previous nationalities, 1127 01:48:36,660 --> 01:48:38,040 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: and dual or foreign 1128 01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,380 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: citizenships. Implementing 1129 01:48:40,380 --> 01:48:42,500 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: these comprehensive data enhancements 1130 01:48:42,500 --> 01:48:44,240 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: provides immediate interagency 1131 01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,500 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: benefits and strategic advantages 1132 01:48:46,500 --> 01:48:48,300 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: across Philippine law enforcement 1133 01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:50,400 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: and national security 1134 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,300 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: sectors. First, it 1135 01:48:52,300 --> 01:48:54,140 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: resolves the late registration crisis 1136 01:48:54,140 --> 01:48:56,200 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: by introducing automated 1137 01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:57,800 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: lineage verification, 1138 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,540 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: according to Exact Parental Data. 1139 01:49:00,540 --> 01:49:02,540 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Exact Parental Data allows 1140 01:49:02,540 --> 01:49:04,660 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: PSA algorithms to 1141 01:49:04,660 --> 01:49:06,640 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: cross-reference historical 1142 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,000 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: records, making it mathematically 1143 01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,780 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: near impossible to invent 1144 01:49:10,780 --> 01:49:12,840 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: fictitious lineages 1145 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,720 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: through weak secondary proofs 1146 01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:16,460 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: like affidavits. Second, 1147 01:49:16,900 --> 01:49:18,740 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: it strengthens border control for the 1148 01:49:18,740 --> 01:49:20,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Bureau of Immigration by preventing 1149 01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,580 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: foreign nationals from obtaining 1150 01:49:22,580 --> 01:49:24,420 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: fraudulent passports and eliminating 1151 01:49:24,420 --> 01:49:26,100 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: identity toggling 1152 01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:28,240 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: during dual citizenship 1153 01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,300 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: audits. Third, 1154 01:49:30,580 --> 01:49:32,340 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: for law enforcement agencies like the Bureau of 1155 01:49:32,340 --> 01:49:34,360 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Immigration, PNP, and NBI and PIDEA, 1156 01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:36,380 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: standardizing aliases 1157 01:49:36,380 --> 01:49:38,580 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: at the civil baseline prevents 1158 01:49:38,580 --> 01:49:40,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: criminals from using alternate 1159 01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,460 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: names to evade 1160 01:49:42,460 --> 01:49:44,460 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: arrest warrants while enabling 1161 01:49:44,460 --> 01:49:46,600 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: rapid forensic kinship, matching 1162 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,300 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: and trafficking, and exploitation 1163 01:49:48,300 --> 01:49:50,640 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: investigations. Finally, 1164 01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,700 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: it empowers the intelligence community 1165 01:49:52,700 --> 01:49:54,640 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: NICA, ESA, etc. 1166 01:49:54,860 --> 01:49:56,440 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: to disrupt ghost 1167 01:49:56,440 --> 01:49:58,100 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: identities used by foreign 1168 01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:00,020 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: actors and map complex 1169 01:50:00,020 --> 01:50:01,480 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: relational 1170 01:50:01,480 --> 01:50:04,080 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: databases linking suspect 1171 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:05,540 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: entities to illicit networks. 1172 01:50:06,020 --> 01:50:07,960 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Ultimately, this structural reform represents 1173 01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:09,940 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: a multi-generational defense line 1174 01:50:09,940 --> 01:50:11,500 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: for Philippine national security 1175 01:50:11,500 --> 01:50:13,960 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: and I am recommending that the Civil 1176 01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:16,260 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Register General and the PSA 1177 01:50:16,260 --> 01:50:17,980 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: alongside the DOJ and DLG update 1178 01:50:17,980 --> 01:50:19,920 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: these mandatory standard forms. Now, 1179 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:21,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: I have here a sample of 1180 01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:23,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: certificate of birth 1181 01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:24,560 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: of the PSA. 1182 01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:28,900 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Father and mother, 1183 01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,380 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: wala, hindi naka-specify yung date 1184 01:50:31,380 --> 01:50:33,060 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: of birth ng parents. 1185 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,500 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Pwede ba natin i-add 1186 01:50:35,500 --> 01:50:38,040 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: from now on? Magkaroon tayo ng 1187 01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:39,840 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: kunting amendment dito na pag nakalagay yung 1188 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:40,240 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: father 1189 01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:43,880 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: nung bata, tapos ilalagay yung 1190 01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,620 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: birth certificate, ay birth date ng father 1191 01:50:45,620 --> 01:50:46,320 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: and then mother 1192 01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,840 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: nung bata, ilalagay yung 1193 01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,960 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: birth date ng mother. And then when they 1194 01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,040 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: show up para mag-fill up 1195 01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:55,880 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: nitong birth certificate, then they have to show proof 1196 01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,060 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: na talagang yun yung birth certificate nila. 1197 01:50:58,100 --> 01:50:59,780 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Etcetera. Or kung hindi para mas 1198 01:50:59,780 --> 01:51:02,060 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: mapabilis, yung number na lang 1199 01:51:02,060 --> 01:51:04,200 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: ata na pwedeng 1200 01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,020 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: hanapin. In that way, maiwasan 1201 01:51:06,020 --> 01:51:07,840 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: natin yung nangyari tulad kay Alice Goo. 1202 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:08,820 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: What do you think? 1203 01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:12,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor, we support that. 1204 01:51:12,460 --> 01:51:13,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And sabi ko nga kanina, 1205 01:51:14,440 --> 01:51:15,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Your Honor, mayroon tayong 1206 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: nakasalang na CRBS 1207 01:51:17,980 --> 01:51:19,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: bill sa Senate 1208 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and some of those that you mentioned 1209 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:23,640 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: are actually in the 1210 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: proposed bill. Yung ating civil 1211 01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:27,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: registration law kasi is really an 1212 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:28,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: old bill. 1213 01:51:28,100 --> 01:51:30,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: At nagkaroon lang tayo 1214 01:51:30,140 --> 01:51:32,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ng mga adjustment 1215 01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:33,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: doon. So we are requesting 1216 01:51:33,780 --> 01:51:35,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: actually na given our 1217 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:37,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: experiences na from the 1218 01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,140 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: previous cases 1219 01:51:40,140 --> 01:51:42,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: like what you mentioned, Your Honor, 1220 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:44,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: pwede nating ilagay 1221 01:51:44,380 --> 01:51:46,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: dito sa ating bagong 1222 01:51:46,020 --> 01:51:48,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: batas. But kung 1223 01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:50,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: pwede naman magawa na 1224 01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:52,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: itong may additional date of birth 1225 01:51:52,220 --> 01:51:53,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: of the parents doon sa bagong form 1226 01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and if it is under the 1227 01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:57,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: power authority of the Civil Register General, 1228 01:51:58,100 --> 01:51:59,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: we will do so, Your Honor. 1229 01:52:00,980 --> 01:52:01,880 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Last na lamang, ano, 1230 01:52:02,340 --> 01:52:04,180 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: I think this was 1231 01:52:04,180 --> 01:52:05,760 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: last year or a couple of years ago, 1232 01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,200 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: na nalaman ng 1233 01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:09,840 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: NBI sa Mindanao, 1234 01:52:10,380 --> 01:52:11,720 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: there were, I think, 1235 01:52:11,820 --> 01:52:13,980 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: 6,000 or something, yung mga 1236 01:52:13,980 --> 01:52:15,880 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: bogus late registration from 1237 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,080 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: foreign nationals and it's 1238 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,900 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: being investigated. Yung ba, na nalinis 1239 01:52:19,900 --> 01:52:21,200 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: yun sa system ninyo and then, 1240 01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:23,740 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: nag-coordinate ba sa inyong NBI kung anong ginawa nila doon 1241 01:52:23,740 --> 01:52:25,560 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: sa mga foreign nationals na bogus or 1242 01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:27,780 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: dubious yung pagka-attain, 1243 01:52:28,100 --> 01:52:29,820 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: pagka-piliin nila ng 1244 01:52:29,820 --> 01:52:31,340 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: late registration? 1245 01:52:31,900 --> 01:52:33,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. Ito po yung siguro yung 1246 01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:35,720 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: may mention yun, yung galing sa 1247 01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:37,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Santa Cruz Municipality of Santa Cruz in 1248 01:52:37,980 --> 01:52:39,170 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Davao province. 1249 01:52:39,170 --> 01:52:39,940 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Yes, exactly. 1250 01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yun po, na-block na natin yun. 1251 01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:44,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: We are coordinating with 1252 01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,720 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the National Bureau of Immigration, 1253 01:52:46,060 --> 01:52:48,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the National Bureau of Investigation 1254 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and pinadala na rin po namin sa 1255 01:52:50,220 --> 01:52:51,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Bureau of Immigration and other 1256 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: national security agencies, yung mga 1257 01:52:54,180 --> 01:52:56,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: names, so that kung 1258 01:52:56,220 --> 01:52:57,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: nandun sa kanilang database, 1259 01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:00,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: they can also track them. 1260 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,060 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So, we are working with NBI 1261 01:53:02,060 --> 01:53:03,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: in Mindanao. 1262 01:53:04,140 --> 01:53:05,700 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: In fact, may mga collaboration kami, 1263 01:53:06,060 --> 01:53:08,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: not just in one particular area, but 1264 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:09,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: in other areas also to check 1265 01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:11,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the local civil registry offices. 1266 01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:13,840 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Okay. Anong mga ginagawa nyo yung steps 1267 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,940 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: or putting a system in place 1268 01:53:15,940 --> 01:53:17,960 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: na para hindi na maulit itong maraming 1269 01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:19,780 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: mga kalusot na mga foreign nationals 1270 01:53:19,780 --> 01:53:21,820 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: na nabangit nga ni Senator Ping 1271 01:53:21,820 --> 01:53:23,860 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Lapson, mga sa sleeper cells 1272 01:53:23,860 --> 01:53:25,640 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: na mag-register sila 1273 01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:26,980 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: to late registration. 1274 01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:30,160 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: And hindi dapat sila karapat-karapat magkaroon 1275 01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,040 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: ng birth certificate ng Pilipino hanggang sa 1276 01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,020 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: magkaroon ng passport. Meron na ba kayo 1277 01:53:34,020 --> 01:53:35,700 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: yung system in place para hindi na maulit ito? 1278 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes, Your Honor. Yung 1279 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:40,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: sabi ko nga kanina, we 1280 01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: actually recalibrated, 1281 01:53:42,500 --> 01:53:43,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: strengthened our late 1282 01:53:43,980 --> 01:53:45,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: registration protocol. 1283 01:53:46,940 --> 01:53:48,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ang una, kailangan mag-appear 1284 01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:49,900 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: siya, ang person na yon, 1285 01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: at kailangan, among others, 1286 01:53:52,220 --> 01:53:53,360 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: mag-register siya sa 1287 01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:54,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: national ID 1288 01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:56,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: system. 1289 01:53:58,100 --> 01:54:00,200 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: At the same time, yung mga late 1290 01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: registration covering the years 1291 01:54:02,380 --> 01:54:03,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 2010 hanggang 2023, 1292 01:54:04,440 --> 01:54:06,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ito po ay nakasubject sa 1293 01:54:06,100 --> 01:54:08,480 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: audit ng Philippine Statistics Authority. 1294 01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Pinupuntahan po namin, ito po yung 1295 01:54:10,420 --> 01:54:12,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: mga close to 50,000 1296 01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na na-assess namin as 1297 01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: possible fraudulent. 1298 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:18,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And hinahanap po namin 1299 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,660 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: sa mga barangay 1300 01:54:20,660 --> 01:54:22,300 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung tao na na-register. 1301 01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:23,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So we have also a report on this, 1302 01:54:24,140 --> 01:54:25,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Your Honor. 1303 01:54:25,940 --> 01:54:28,080 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Okay. Update na lang pala doon sa mga 1304 01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:30,220 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: kaso na i-file against those civil 1305 01:54:30,220 --> 01:54:31,480 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: registrars involved 1306 01:54:31,480 --> 01:54:32,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: doon sa 1307 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,940 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: anomalya 1308 01:54:36,940 --> 01:54:37,780 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: ng late registration. 1309 01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:39,580 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Ano nangyari doon sa mga late 1310 01:54:39,580 --> 01:54:40,680 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: civil registrars? 1311 01:54:41,140 --> 01:54:44,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: May mga local civil registrar tayo, 1312 01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Your Honor. We will send you the 1313 01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:47,540 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: detailed. 1314 01:54:48,020 --> 01:54:50,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: But one is that may mga 1315 01:54:50,260 --> 01:54:51,860 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: kaso sila and 1316 01:54:51,860 --> 01:54:53,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: they were under first. 1317 01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:55,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Kasi ang local civil registrars 1318 01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,000 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ay under sa authority ng local 1319 01:54:58,000 --> 01:54:59,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: chief executive. So we are 1320 01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:01,760 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: requesting the local chief executive na 1321 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: i-under sila sa administrative cases. 1322 01:55:04,380 --> 01:55:05,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Marami na pong natanggal. 1323 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:07,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And then we are also sending 1324 01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:09,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: their names to the 1325 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: National Bureau of Investigation 1326 01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:13,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: and other national security 1327 01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:15,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: agencies. Your Honor, the Philippine 1328 01:55:15,820 --> 01:55:17,980 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Statistics Authority is providing quarterly 1329 01:55:17,980 --> 01:55:19,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: report on 1330 01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:22,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: our audit and our 1331 01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:23,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: efforts to clean 1332 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:25,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the civil registry system 1333 01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: to the Senate. But we 1334 01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:29,800 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: will provide the copies of 1335 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:31,680 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: this report. Nakapang limang report 1336 01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,920 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na po yata kami on the progress 1337 01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:35,860 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: of our audit and investigation. 1338 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:36,700 Senator Raffy T. Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 1339 01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. Senator Kiko 1340 01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:40,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pangilinan. 1341 01:55:40,980 --> 01:55:43,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, on that point, just for 1342 01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:45,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the information of USEC 1343 01:55:45,380 --> 01:55:47,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mapa and Secretary 1344 01:55:47,700 --> 01:55:48,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: RC. 1345 01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:51,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And for the information 1346 01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of Senator Raffy, 1347 01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:55,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Civil Registration 1348 01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and Vital Statistics Bill, 1349 01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is pending 1350 01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: under the 1351 01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:04,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Committee on Justice, of which I am chairperson. 1352 01:56:04,340 --> 01:56:05,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And this is 1353 01:56:05,980 --> 01:56:07,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: actually a measure that is sponsored by 1354 01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Senate President. 1355 01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we've had a committee hearing 1356 01:56:12,020 --> 01:56:13,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and we are now going through the 1357 01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: technical working group. So we expect to 1358 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:16,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: be able to pass this 1359 01:56:16,940 --> 01:56:19,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to provide the 1360 01:56:19,860 --> 01:56:21,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: necessary tools 1361 01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for us to address the challenges 1362 01:56:23,540 --> 01:56:25,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: raised earlier by Senator Raffy. 1363 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:27,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe the good 1364 01:56:27,740 --> 01:56:27,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary, 1365 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:29,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary can lobby 1366 01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:30,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the House 1367 01:56:30,580 --> 01:56:33,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because I understand 1368 01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:35,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it is also still on the committee level 1369 01:56:35,860 --> 01:56:38,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to address this. 1370 01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:40,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just for the information 1371 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Chairman and our colleagues. 1372 01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:44,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: May I proceed? 1373 01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:45,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, please proceed. 1374 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:46,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. 1375 01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We'd like to... 1376 01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:51,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I will take off 1377 01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:53,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from where we started 1378 01:56:53,260 --> 01:56:55,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the DBCC 1379 01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:57,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the remarks, 1380 01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:59,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when I asked about why 1381 01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:00,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rice prices 1382 01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: continue to remain 1383 01:57:03,700 --> 01:57:05,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: high. Inflation is, if I'm not 1384 01:57:05,940 --> 01:57:07,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: right, price inflation year on year is about 1385 01:57:07,860 --> 01:57:10,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 19%, if I'm not 1386 01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:10,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mistaken. 1387 01:57:11,700 --> 01:57:13,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Despite the fact that we've 1388 01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:14,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: precisely 1389 01:57:14,180 --> 01:57:17,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: imported 1390 01:57:17,620 --> 01:57:19,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 5 million 1391 01:57:19,660 --> 01:57:20,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: metric tons. 1392 01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:25,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And it was 1393 01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a BSP governor 1394 01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:33,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Remalona. 1395 01:57:33,380 --> 01:57:33,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. 1396 01:57:34,900 --> 01:57:36,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I have a friend, Ramulete, 1397 01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Remalona. 1398 01:57:40,300 --> 01:57:41,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Remalona, who said 1399 01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that 1400 01:57:43,420 --> 01:57:45,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the raising 1401 01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:46,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the tariffs 1402 01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worked for a while. 1403 01:57:50,180 --> 01:57:51,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or bringing down of the tariffs 1404 01:57:51,940 --> 01:57:53,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worked for a while and then something happened. 1405 01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:54,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you will remember. 1406 01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:58,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we'd like to go... 1407 01:57:58,280 --> 01:57:59,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is that something that happened? 1408 01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:02,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because you'd like to think after 5 million 1409 01:58:02,540 --> 01:58:04,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: metric tons of rice being 1410 01:58:04,340 --> 01:58:05,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: flood, well, 1411 01:58:06,820 --> 01:58:08,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: theoretically flooding the market, 1412 01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we shouldn't have a 1413 01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:11,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 19.4% 1414 01:58:11,620 --> 01:58:14,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: year on year 1415 01:58:14,540 --> 01:58:16,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rise inflation. Of course, there are 1416 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: other factors, such as 1417 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:20,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the war in 1418 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:21,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Iran, 1419 01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: oil prices, fertilizer, etc. 1420 01:58:25,380 --> 01:58:25,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then, 1421 01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:27,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we put tight 1422 01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:28,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sanctions on the whole of El Nino. 1423 01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, I worry. 1424 01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, could you give us 1425 01:58:33,020 --> 01:58:34,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your sense, 1426 01:58:35,460 --> 01:58:37,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sec. Arcee, of what's 1427 01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:38,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: going on? 1428 01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dr. Sebastian is angry. 1429 01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe he can also add to the discussion. 1430 01:58:45,540 --> 01:58:48,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: You're right, Mr. Chair. 1431 01:58:49,380 --> 01:58:50,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Your Honor, 1432 01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:52,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we 1433 01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:55,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: looked at the 1434 01:58:55,260 --> 01:58:56,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: experience 1435 01:58:56,420 --> 01:58:57,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the 1436 01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: market 1437 01:58:59,460 --> 01:59:01,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and what happened to retail prices 1438 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:03,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and farmgate prices 1439 01:59:03,100 --> 01:59:06,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at the time when we 1440 01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:08,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: reduced the 1441 01:59:08,180 --> 01:59:09,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: tariff 1442 01:59:09,140 --> 01:59:11,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to 15% 1443 01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: when retail prices 1444 01:59:14,340 --> 01:59:15,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: were high 1445 01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and inflation was 1446 01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:19,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a major concern at the time. 1447 01:59:21,740 --> 01:59:22,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And 1448 01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to our 1449 01:59:24,220 --> 01:59:24,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: surprise, 1450 01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:26,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 1451 01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:27,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: inflation was not 1452 01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:28,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: as high as we expected. 1453 01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:29,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The retail prices did not behave 1454 01:59:29,100 --> 01:59:30,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: as we expected. 1455 01:59:31,140 --> 01:59:32,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: For several months, 1456 01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: retail prices remained high. 1457 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:36,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Despite, yes, the 1458 01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:38,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: reduction in tariff and the 1459 01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:40,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: falling world prices. 1460 01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Because world prices started also to 1461 01:59:42,300 --> 01:59:44,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: come down. So, we were expecting. 1462 01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:45,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, 1463 01:59:46,940 --> 01:59:48,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we had a recent paper on this. 1464 01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, I could share it with you. 1465 01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:51,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Please go. 1466 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I think you used it in one of your 1467 01:59:54,020 --> 01:59:55,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: papers. 1468 01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:55,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But, 1469 01:59:55,620 --> 02:00:00,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but essentially, it's like a combination of facts. 1470 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But one that we could not exclude is the possibility that you have an anti-competitive market in the retail sector. 1471 02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:21,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And that's why we have been asking our Philippine Competition Commission to investigate the industry. 1472 02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:33,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Both in the, not just in the, I think it's not so much in the retail, it's in the trading, the wholesaling, and the importation. 1473 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:42,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: That is where I think, where we see the rigidity in the prices. 1474 02:00:42,380 --> 02:00:49,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because we also, Congress passed the Agri-Economic Sabotage Law, 1475 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: which includes hoarding. 1476 02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:55,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: profiteering, price manipulation. 1477 02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:59,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And that is all, but that's not the complete story, Mr. Chair. 1478 02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:01,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As I said, it's a complicated thing. 1479 02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:12,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: There is also problems with bottlenecks in the logistics that prevent markets from functioning smoothly. 1480 02:01:13,380 --> 02:01:19,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And also in the way we use trade policy, I think. 1481 02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:38,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As you know, because the way we have been, we make decisions on importation and I think those quantitative restrictions are affecting the way the market functions. 1482 02:01:38,740 --> 02:01:43,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So the market can't effectively function. 1483 02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:48,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And when you put all this together, you have that problem. 1484 02:01:49,100 --> 02:01:55,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And so until now, the major contributor to inflation, food inflation, is rice. 1485 02:01:56,280 --> 02:02:00,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And nationwide inflation, too, because of rice inflation. 1486 02:02:01,460 --> 02:02:03,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that's why it's critical. 1487 02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:17,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, just going back to the anti-competitive market, for example, in 2020-2024, the Competition Commission, of which you used to chair, 1488 02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:25,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: recommended a penalty of about 2.6 billion pesos for the onion cartel. 1489 02:02:26,660 --> 02:02:33,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I understand the penalty has not been implemented. 1490 02:02:33,900 --> 02:02:38,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It is still on appeal. 1491 02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:40,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's already 2026. 1492 02:02:40,860 --> 02:02:46,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that, too, gives you a sense of why. 1493 02:02:47,920 --> 02:03:00,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The anti-competition intervention, I mean, forces continue to do their thing. 1494 02:03:01,500 --> 02:03:04,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Would you have a status of that case? 1495 02:03:05,500 --> 02:03:10,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 2024 ni-recommenda, 2.6 billion, unprecedented, fine. 1496 02:03:10,820 --> 02:03:15,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm sure you're familiar with that, considering you were. 1497 02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:17,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You were. 1498 02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:19,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You headed that commission. 1499 02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:26,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do we see any light at the end of the tunnel that cases will be filed? 1500 02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:28,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because the recommendation was to fine them. 1501 02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:34,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The penalty was about 2.6 billion, but hindi pa na-enforce. 1502 02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:38,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir. 1503 02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:42,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I have no information about that, Mr. 1504 02:03:42,740 --> 02:03:46,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As to the current status, I was no longer the chair when... 1505 02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:49,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The decision was... 1506 02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:49,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, yes. 1507 02:03:49,740 --> 02:03:51,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So this is under... 1508 02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:53,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: PCC is now with OP? 1509 02:03:54,380 --> 02:03:55,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It's an independent... 1510 02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:59,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It's headed by Mike Aguinaldo. 1511 02:03:59,420 --> 02:03:59,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, yes. 1512 02:03:59,940 --> 02:04:12,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, anyway, that's one concern na hindi efektibo itong PCC in enforcing its recommendations. 1513 02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:14,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It was just a recommendation. 1514 02:04:14,860 --> 02:04:15,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It is still pending. 1515 02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:17,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It has not been two years after. 1516 02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:19,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: More than two years. 1517 02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:20,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi 2004. 1518 02:04:21,540 --> 02:04:26,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So 2024, 2025, 2026 na ngayon. 1519 02:04:26,860 --> 02:04:29,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I believe it was July 2024. 1520 02:04:30,220 --> 02:04:31,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's a concern. 1521 02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:35,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, just some... 1522 02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:40,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung 9.7% poverty levels, how did that happen? 1523 02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:43,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean, parang counterintuitive. 1524 02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:46,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nag-Iran war. 1525 02:04:46,980 --> 02:04:47,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tumaas ang presyo. 1526 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:49,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tumaas ng gasolina. 1527 02:04:50,500 --> 02:04:52,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mataas ang inflation ng food. 1528 02:04:54,500 --> 02:04:58,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bumagsak ang poverty levels from last year. 1529 02:04:58,640 --> 02:04:59,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Was it 16? 1530 02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:01,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 15? 1531 02:05:02,940 --> 02:05:03,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Let me explain. 1532 02:05:03,940 --> 02:05:04,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead. 1533 02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:05,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, yes. 1534 02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:06,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I think that, yeah. 1535 02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:15,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The data that we are capturing is 2023 versus 2025. 1536 02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:17,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The data was 2025. 1537 02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:18,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Not 2026. 1538 02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:22,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The inflation in 2025 was very low. 1539 02:05:23,140 --> 02:05:26,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 1.6%, something like that. 1540 02:05:27,940 --> 02:05:31,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The 9.7% inflation is 2025. 1541 02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:32,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2025. 1542 02:05:32,900 --> 02:05:33,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Okay. 1543 02:05:33,700 --> 02:05:35,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: That was the 9.7%. 1544 02:05:35,300 --> 02:05:44,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And the decrease, comparing that with the conditions, economic conditions during that period, 2023 to 2025, 1545 02:05:44,900 --> 02:06:02,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: across income growths, or what's called income deciles, you see that households' incomes increased by almost, in nominal terms, over 20% in those periods. 1546 02:06:02,620 --> 02:06:09,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It was a period, quite unusual, I would say, because it was a period of low inflation. 1547 02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:14,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Income growth was quite widespread across. 1548 02:06:14,900 --> 02:06:16,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Households. 1549 02:06:17,420 --> 02:06:20,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So it was not an inequitable growth. 1550 02:06:22,220 --> 02:06:29,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: You can see the same percentage growth across the households' income classes. 1551 02:06:31,420 --> 02:06:37,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And yes, and the labor market was also at its best. 1552 02:06:38,820 --> 02:06:43,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It was a period when unemployment was declining, underemployment was declining. 1553 02:06:43,920 --> 02:07:05,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The 2026 is a different story because the Middle East conflict, the oil price, sharp price, oil price increases, the deceleration of growth because of the scandal, partly because of scandal and the high inflation. 1554 02:07:05,420 --> 02:07:09,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So some of those gains could have been eroded. 1555 02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:10,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wipe out. 1556 02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:13,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I don't think it is wipe out. 1557 02:07:13,020 --> 02:07:15,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But I don't think, I really don't think that's wipe out. 1558 02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:20,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But could have been eroded by those high inflation. 1559 02:07:21,140 --> 02:07:28,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And now, unemployment is also beginning to, beginning, has also increased in recent quarters. 1560 02:07:30,100 --> 02:07:32,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just one more question on the... 1561 02:07:32,940 --> 02:07:35,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, before it skips my mind, I follow up. 1562 02:07:36,860 --> 02:07:42,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Where is the country headed in the next two years in terms of the, or using the following indicators? 1563 02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:51,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Inflation, national debt, atsaka yung peso versus the U.S. dollar and other currencies? 1564 02:07:53,820 --> 02:08:10,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The last one is quite difficult to know, Your Honor, because the value of the peso does not depend just on our actions, but also actions of other countries. 1565 02:08:10,860 --> 02:08:12,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Now that the Fed is strengthening. 1566 02:08:13,020 --> 02:08:26,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It's raising its policy rates, you would expect a lot of pressure on the peso because dollar-denominated assets will become now much more attractive. 1567 02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:42,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, but there are other, of course, factors that how investors and our local population, both consumers and producers, see the future. 1568 02:08:43,020 --> 02:09:04,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And I think that if we can, as I keep saying, that if we can address the common variables that have led to this pessimism, to this negative sentiments that happened in the last quarters, three quarters, we could be on a recovery. 1569 02:09:06,580 --> 02:09:12,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, I think that there are some good news. 1570 02:09:13,020 --> 02:09:30,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: That happened lately, and I hope that that will temper now the sentiments, and I hope that there will are emerging solutions to the Middle East conflict, because that's the big uncertainty in the world economy right now. 1571 02:09:31,540 --> 02:09:41,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We were expecting just a few months ago or a few weeks ago that oil prices would finally be at $80 per barrel. 1572 02:09:41,700 --> 02:09:42,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But now it's back to... 1573 02:09:43,020 --> 02:09:48,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: To 100% because of, you know, certain actions that outside of our control. 1574 02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:51,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, it's really a very uncertain world. 1575 02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:55,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: You know, that's the least that I could say. 1576 02:09:57,020 --> 02:10:02,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What's our projected national debt in June of 2028? 1577 02:10:02,460 --> 02:10:07,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We are still working on a fiscal consolidation. 1578 02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:12,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: As you can see in the budget, the budget, the increase in the budget was very... 1579 02:10:13,020 --> 02:10:15,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Small. 1580 02:10:15,340 --> 02:10:18,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: In fact, in real terms, it's likely flat. 1581 02:10:18,780 --> 02:10:20,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It's more like a flat, no? 1582 02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:30,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Just to make sure that we are managing our fiscal issues, the fiscal space. 1583 02:10:30,820 --> 02:10:41,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And I think that we have agreed among the economic managers and discussed with the president that we need to... 1584 02:10:43,020 --> 02:10:45,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: To strong... 1585 02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:52,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: To reorient our borrowing, to focus only on capital outlay and infrastructure, for example. 1586 02:10:54,660 --> 02:10:55,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yeah. 1587 02:10:56,060 --> 02:11:04,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Kasi parang [unclear] na tayo ng borrowing even for MOOE, ano? 1588 02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:07,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I mean, some countries don't do that. 1589 02:11:07,420 --> 02:11:09,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: They only borrow for capital outlay. 1590 02:11:09,260 --> 02:11:12,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And I think that that's a direction that we should take. 1591 02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:12,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And... 1592 02:11:12,860 --> 02:11:13,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And... 1593 02:11:13,020 --> 02:11:18,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we are taking. And our fiscal consolidation program is geared for that. 1594 02:11:19,340 --> 02:11:23,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Hopefully, there will be no extra pressure for us. 1595 02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:27,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The problem is really our vulnerability energy. 1596 02:11:28,160 --> 02:11:37,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Because we have little space that whenever, you know, world prices rise, we are hit quickly. 1597 02:11:37,620 --> 02:11:42,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Because we don't have the kind of energy situation that our neighbors... 1598 02:11:43,020 --> 02:11:43,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: have. 1599 02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:45,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Sir [unclear]. 1600 02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:46,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you, Senator Kiko. 1601 02:11:46,420 --> 02:11:46,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. 1602 02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:47,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, sir, Senator Pangilinan 1603 02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:50,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just a few more questions. 1604 02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:52,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know, we... 1605 02:11:52,220 --> 02:11:53,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The anti-agric... 1606 02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:54,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I just want to go back to that, no? 1607 02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:56,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Economic sabotage. 1608 02:11:56,080 --> 02:12:01,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: May we request the DepDev to give us your position paper after two years. 1609 02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:07,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Unfortunately, you still don't have big-time smugglers being jailed. 1610 02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:13,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then, of course, the PCC. 1611 02:12:13,020 --> 02:12:18,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The PCC Commission has yet to finalize its penalties on the Onion Cartel. 1612 02:12:20,180 --> 02:12:31,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There is a disconnect in the Council because it seems like the enforcement arm of the Council does not include the BOC and the DA. 1613 02:12:33,060 --> 02:12:37,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And what I'm told is that kasi hindi mapagkatiwalaan yung dalawa. 1614 02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:42,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They are in the Council, but they're not in the enforcement. 1615 02:12:43,020 --> 02:12:46,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They're not in the enforcement entity. 1616 02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:49,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think that, you know... 1617 02:12:51,700 --> 02:12:54,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They're the ones who know. 1618 02:12:54,780 --> 02:12:56,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They're the ones who are guarding. 1619 02:12:56,340 --> 02:12:57,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They're the ones mandated. 1620 02:12:57,660 --> 02:13:08,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But when it comes to the enforcement for agri-smuggling, both the BOC and the DA are not in the enforcement bureau. 1621 02:13:08,300 --> 02:13:12,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, can you give us a position? 1622 02:13:13,020 --> 02:13:15,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I think it was an overreaction. 1623 02:13:15,500 --> 02:13:17,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It was like a pendulum swing to the extreme. 1624 02:13:18,460 --> 02:13:23,140 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dahil maraming smuggling, hindi nagagawa yung trabaho, et cetera. 1625 02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:23,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Huwag niyo isama. 1626 02:13:25,020 --> 02:13:30,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Lalo gumulo yung sharing of information, et cetera. 1627 02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:33,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi angkop. 1628 02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:35,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Nagtuturoan pati. 1629 02:13:36,540 --> 02:13:40,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, maybe the DepDev can give us your position paper. 1630 02:13:41,140 --> 02:13:41,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Let's... 1631 02:13:41,540 --> 02:13:42,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe you need to revisit that. 1632 02:13:43,020 --> 02:13:46,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That portion or provisions of the law. 1633 02:13:46,460 --> 02:13:52,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi 10 milyon pesos lang ang kailangan para makakulong ng non-bailable offense. 1634 02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:54,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 10 milyon pesos lang. 1635 02:13:55,020 --> 02:13:58,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Panay ang announce ng gobyerno na billion ang nakukumpis ka. 1636 02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:01,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 500 milyon dito ng sigarilyo. 1637 02:14:03,700 --> 02:14:05,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 100 milyon ng karne. 1638 02:14:07,900 --> 02:14:12,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pero, yung nakakulong, bodegero. 1639 02:14:13,020 --> 02:14:17,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, ano nangyari ron? 1640 02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:20,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa halagang 10 milyon lang. 1641 02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:21,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Meron daw ilan. 1642 02:14:23,140 --> 02:14:24,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, that's not enough. 1643 02:14:24,780 --> 02:14:32,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you're confiscating billions, then you should be jailing big-time smugglers. 1644 02:14:32,940 --> 02:14:34,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: To the tune of billions. 1645 02:14:34,600 --> 02:14:35,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, anyway, that one. 1646 02:14:36,160 --> 02:14:38,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm sorry, I'm particular about that. 1647 02:14:38,340 --> 02:14:42,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because it's really killing our local agri 1648 02:14:43,020 --> 02:14:45,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and fishery sector, when all these... 1649 02:14:45,020 --> 02:14:48,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ang malungkot pa doon, yung pinapasok na mga produkto, 1650 02:14:49,020 --> 02:14:52,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: eh baka ano pa, siya salvage value. 1651 02:14:52,220 --> 02:14:56,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi unfit na for human consumption doon sa China. 1652 02:14:57,320 --> 02:14:58,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Dadalin dito, smuggled. 1653 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos, sasabunin ng formalin, 1654 02:15:03,940 --> 02:15:05,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos ibebenta sa merkado. 1655 02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:09,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, and then, when you look at all the, 1656 02:15:09,620 --> 02:15:12,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: not all, but the items that are seized, 1657 02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:14,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: unfit for human consumption, 1658 02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:16,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: may E. coli, salmonella, etc. 1659 02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:19,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, well, anyway, 1660 02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:21,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so maybe you can give us your position 1661 02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:23,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because we'd like to revisit the law 1662 02:15:23,480 --> 02:15:27,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and provide the council with more teeth. 1663 02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:30,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: My last question, 1664 02:15:31,300 --> 02:15:32,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or last two questions, 1665 02:15:33,620 --> 02:15:36,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the issue of, again, I go back to smuggling. 1666 02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:38,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We had a hearing in March 1667 02:15:38,800 --> 02:15:41,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: regarding onion importation. 1668 02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:47,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The PSA had their projected harvest. 1669 02:15:48,980 --> 02:15:50,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Ping was there. 1670 02:15:51,140 --> 02:15:53,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then the BPI, DA, 1671 02:15:53,500 --> 02:15:55,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: had a different set of data. 1672 02:15:57,960 --> 02:16:02,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The PSA had a lower requirement 1673 02:16:02,700 --> 02:16:05,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the gap in terms of the supply deficit. 1674 02:16:06,820 --> 02:16:08,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But the DA had a larger. 1675 02:16:09,140 --> 02:16:09,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And therefore, 1676 02:16:10,300 --> 02:16:12,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nasunod yung DA, 1677 02:16:13,900 --> 02:16:16,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nag-import ng in excess, 1678 02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:19,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at least more than what PSA said. 1679 02:16:20,380 --> 02:16:20,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I said, 1680 02:16:22,340 --> 02:16:23,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we identified, 1681 02:16:23,940 --> 02:16:27,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we allocated 100 million for the PSA last year, 1682 02:16:27,200 --> 02:16:27,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for the PSA. 1683 02:16:27,960 --> 02:16:30,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The surveying and the research. 1684 02:16:30,580 --> 02:16:31,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I said, 1685 02:16:31,380 --> 02:16:33,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: why don't you come up with a memorandum of agreement 1686 02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:36,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between the DA and the PSA and the DepDev 1687 02:16:36,500 --> 02:16:42,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we have one set of data? 1688 02:16:43,700 --> 02:16:44,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'd like to think, 1689 02:16:45,060 --> 02:16:45,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: DepDev, 1690 02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:48,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't know. 1691 02:16:48,860 --> 02:16:51,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But you're the researchers. 1692 02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:54,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You're the statisticians. 1693 02:16:54,780 --> 02:16:55,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's not DA. 1694 02:16:56,580 --> 02:16:57,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: DA should be the employer. 1695 02:16:57,960 --> 02:16:58,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Implementor, et cetera. 1696 02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:01,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So nagka-conflict sa datos, 1697 02:17:02,940 --> 02:17:04,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mas malaki yung data ng DA 1698 02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:05,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for some reason. 1699 02:17:07,060 --> 02:17:08,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So nag-import ng mas malaki. 1700 02:17:11,220 --> 02:17:11,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. 1701 02:17:12,580 --> 02:17:13,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tapos sa panahon. 1702 02:17:15,140 --> 02:17:18,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So can you clarify that? 1703 02:17:18,460 --> 02:17:18,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, sir. 1704 02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:20,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi I also, 1705 02:17:20,600 --> 02:17:23,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I share the sentiment of Senator Pangilinan. 1706 02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:26,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I authored the anti-agriculture smuglilo in 2016. 1707 02:17:26,840 --> 02:17:28,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tapos nag-evolve, 1708 02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:30,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dati kasi smugling lang. 1709 02:17:30,220 --> 02:17:31,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Nag-evolve naman. 1710 02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:34,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dahil nagkaroon ng gantong batas, 1711 02:17:35,460 --> 02:17:38,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: left and right naman ang issuance ng importation permit. 1712 02:17:38,440 --> 02:17:41,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya nga nag-agadag ng anti-agriculture economic sabotage ngayon. 1713 02:17:41,780 --> 02:17:44,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's the Conserve Center Pangilinan. 1714 02:17:44,220 --> 02:17:49,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How can we do to improve better this one, 1715 02:17:49,960 --> 02:17:53,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the reinforcement para magkaroon ng direksyon tungkol na natin? 1716 02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:55,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sometimes it's frustrating to hear 1717 02:17:55,540 --> 02:17:56,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the statement. 1718 02:17:56,840 --> 02:17:57,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The state of our agriculture, 1719 02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:00,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na talagang they import at the wrong time. 1720 02:18:00,900 --> 02:18:01,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Di ba? 1721 02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:02,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung patay, 1722 02:18:02,700 --> 02:18:03,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung local industry natin, 1723 02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:05,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pinababayaan na ano na. 1724 02:18:06,180 --> 02:18:08,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Parang napabayaan na import na na import. 1725 02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:08,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So sige, 1726 02:18:09,020 --> 02:18:10,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we would like to hear from you. 1727 02:18:11,420 --> 02:18:12,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you, 1728 02:18:12,580 --> 02:18:14,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair and Your Honor. 1729 02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:17,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: This is a long-standing issue. 1730 02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:21,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Recall that before PSA was reorganized, 1731 02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:25,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: there was a Bureau of Agricultural Statistics 1732 02:18:25,340 --> 02:18:26,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that collects data. 1733 02:18:26,840 --> 02:18:28,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I would collect data. 1734 02:18:29,620 --> 02:18:31,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But what, 1735 02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:32,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and then PS, 1736 02:18:33,040 --> 02:18:36,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the National Statistics Office 1737 02:18:36,260 --> 02:18:38,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: was also collecting data. 1738 02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:42,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And those two data do not match, 1739 02:18:42,160 --> 02:18:43,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: do not agree by a wide margin. 1740 02:18:44,820 --> 02:18:48,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And there were many studies pointing to 1741 02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:51,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the need to integrate the two 1742 02:18:51,820 --> 02:18:54,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: by removing the data collection 1743 02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:56,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for purposes of statistics. 1744 02:18:56,840 --> 02:18:58,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Statistical compilation, 1745 02:18:59,560 --> 02:19:01,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: especially compilation in support of 1746 02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:03,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the national income accounts 1747 02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:07,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: away from implementing agencies 1748 02:19:07,060 --> 02:19:09,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so that there is a more credible 1749 02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:16,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: sample-based statistically valid sampling methods 1750 02:19:16,260 --> 02:19:18,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: applied so that the data 1751 02:19:18,320 --> 02:19:20,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are nationally representative. 1752 02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:22,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So that was the decision. 1753 02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:24,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But of course, 1754 02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:25,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: over time, 1755 02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:29,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the Department of Agriculture 1756 02:19:29,560 --> 02:19:33,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: realized that they still would have to collect 1757 02:19:33,940 --> 02:19:37,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: their own data for administrative purposes. 1758 02:19:38,380 --> 02:19:43,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And so that's where we are still at now. 1759 02:19:43,300 --> 02:19:44,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But on the other hand, 1760 02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:46,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we have been, 1761 02:19:47,480 --> 02:19:50,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I think PSA and DA have been coordinating 1762 02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:52,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: toward unifying their processes. 1763 02:19:52,660 --> 02:19:53,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, because I asked them to. 1764 02:19:53,860 --> 02:19:54,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I told them, 1765 02:19:55,660 --> 02:19:56,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maybe, 1766 02:19:56,840 --> 02:19:58,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and they acceded. 1767 02:19:59,060 --> 02:19:59,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I said, 1768 02:19:59,420 --> 02:20:02,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you can make a memorandum of agreement 1769 02:20:02,420 --> 02:20:06,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between PSA and BPI-DA 1770 02:20:06,060 --> 02:20:08,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or whoever it is in DA 1771 02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:09,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's collecting the data. 1772 02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:10,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And you agree 1773 02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:12,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that after you collect the data, 1774 02:20:12,980 --> 02:20:14,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you will have one figure. 1775 02:20:15,060 --> 02:20:17,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I mean, I don't think that's difficult to do. 1776 02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:19,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But it has to be 1777 02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:21,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at the cabinet secretary level. 1778 02:20:21,320 --> 02:20:21,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We, you know, 1779 02:20:22,020 --> 02:20:24,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: when you were with NEDA, 1780 02:20:24,340 --> 02:20:25,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you chaired NEDA, 1781 02:20:25,660 --> 02:20:26,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I was with the, 1782 02:20:26,600 --> 02:20:29,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we were together in the NFA council, 1783 02:20:30,260 --> 02:20:32,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we had a memorandum of agreement 1784 02:20:32,820 --> 02:20:34,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between the NFA and the BOC 1785 02:20:34,740 --> 02:20:36,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that we only have one, 1786 02:20:37,040 --> 02:20:37,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: then, 1787 02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:40,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: only one document 1788 02:20:40,060 --> 02:20:41,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for rice importation. 1789 02:20:42,060 --> 02:20:43,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Whatever we had in NFA, 1790 02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:47,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the BOC had the same. 1791 02:20:47,780 --> 02:20:50,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that every time rice imports came in, 1792 02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:52,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we only had one document. 1793 02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:53,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So nag-uusap kami, 1794 02:20:54,260 --> 02:20:55,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and it was just by way of agreement. 1795 02:20:56,600 --> 02:20:59,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So maybe the PSA and the DA-BPI, 1796 02:21:00,580 --> 02:21:02,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sana before we go to plenary, 1797 02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:04,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: meron na kayong memorandum of agreement 1798 02:21:04,060 --> 02:21:08,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: para naman isa lang yung figurang ninyo. 1799 02:21:09,340 --> 02:21:11,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist 1800 02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:13,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to reconcile data. 1801 02:21:14,980 --> 02:21:15,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yes. 1802 02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:16,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, sir. 1803 02:21:16,220 --> 02:21:16,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yeah. 1804 02:21:16,780 --> 02:21:18,460 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Your Honor. 1805 02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:21,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: I agree on the statement 1806 02:21:21,020 --> 02:21:25,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: that any plan should be based on a single data. 1807 02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:26,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And after that, 1808 02:21:26,580 --> 02:21:27,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: after that discussion, 1809 02:21:27,740 --> 02:21:28,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Your Honor, 1810 02:21:28,800 --> 02:21:31,440 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the Department of Agriculture and the PSA 1811 02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:35,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: discussed and talked with Secretary Laurel. 1812 02:21:35,540 --> 02:21:36,220 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: And we have already 1813 02:21:36,220 --> 02:21:38,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: that memorandum of agreement 1814 02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:40,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: stating that for official statistics 1815 02:21:40,100 --> 02:21:41,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: on output, 1816 02:21:42,020 --> 02:21:44,200 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: the PSA's data will be... 1817 02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:44,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can we have a copy? 1818 02:21:45,120 --> 02:21:47,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I also talked to Secretary Kiko about that. 1819 02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:49,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And he was kind enough to say 1820 02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:50,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: he will look into it 1821 02:21:50,380 --> 02:21:51,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and he has no... 1822 02:21:51,880 --> 02:21:53,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In principle, he does not object. 1823 02:21:53,760 --> 02:21:54,580 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yeah, we will provide the... 1824 02:21:55,340 --> 02:21:56,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So henceforth, 1825 02:21:56,580 --> 02:21:57,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will have one data. 1826 02:21:58,260 --> 02:21:58,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Correct. 1827 02:21:58,900 --> 02:21:59,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, good. 1828 02:22:00,140 --> 02:22:01,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Lord. 1829 02:22:01,340 --> 02:22:01,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, 1830 02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:04,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: my last question, actually. 1831 02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:05,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung El Nino. 1832 02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:09,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: During our time, 1833 02:22:10,360 --> 02:22:11,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: SEC-RC, 1834 02:22:11,920 --> 02:22:14,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we had an interagency task force on El Nino. 1835 02:22:15,280 --> 02:22:16,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do we have that now? 1836 02:22:18,220 --> 02:22:19,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Somebody said yes. 1837 02:22:24,700 --> 02:22:25,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And 1838 02:22:25,340 --> 02:22:27,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what are the interventions 1839 02:22:27,420 --> 02:22:29,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to be undertaken by this task force? 1840 02:22:29,900 --> 02:22:32,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because you have to factor that in 1841 02:22:32,600 --> 02:22:34,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of our... 1842 02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:36,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the impact on the incomes, 1843 02:22:36,940 --> 02:22:38,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: economy, food, 1844 02:22:39,580 --> 02:22:41,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agri-sector. 1845 02:22:44,180 --> 02:22:45,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Would you care to answer us, 1846 02:22:45,880 --> 02:22:46,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yusek Abad-Santos? 1847 02:22:46,960 --> 02:22:47,740 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: Yes, Mr. Chair, Your Honor. 1848 02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:50,420 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: The task force was reconstituted 1849 02:22:50,420 --> 02:22:52,860 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: by an executive order by the President. 1850 02:22:52,860 --> 02:22:53,220 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: And 1851 02:22:53,220 --> 02:22:54,860 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: it's now... 1852 02:22:55,340 --> 02:22:57,640 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: now headed by the Department of Defense, 1853 02:22:58,240 --> 02:22:59,660 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: by the Department of National Defense, 1854 02:23:00,260 --> 02:23:05,080 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: mainly as the chair of the NBRMC. 1855 02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:06,200 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: And again, 1856 02:23:06,680 --> 02:23:08,200 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: for the past months, 1857 02:23:08,300 --> 02:23:09,260 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: like the past four months, 1858 02:23:09,380 --> 02:23:11,040 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: there have been meetings conducted 1859 02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:13,140 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: by the 1860 02:23:13,140 --> 02:23:16,260 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: technical working group of the task force 1861 02:23:16,260 --> 02:23:19,020 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: in terms of the different 1862 02:23:19,020 --> 02:23:20,780 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: key member agencies 1863 02:23:20,780 --> 02:23:21,960 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: or the core members, 1864 02:23:21,960 --> 02:23:22,480 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: which are 1865 02:23:22,480 --> 02:23:24,040 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: the Department of Energy, 1866 02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:25,120 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: Department of Agriculture, 1867 02:23:25,340 --> 02:23:26,680 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: or NIA, 1868 02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:30,380 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: and Department of Health and the ALG 1869 02:23:30,380 --> 02:23:32,940 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: to look at their different interventions 1870 02:23:32,940 --> 02:23:34,940 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: in the anticipation of 1871 02:23:35,540 --> 02:23:36,680 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: the 1872 02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:39,100 DEPDev Undersecretary Carlos Bernardo O. Abad Santos: incoming El Nino. 1873 02:23:39,680 --> 02:23:40,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 1874 02:23:40,180 --> 02:23:42,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe from the point of view of the DEV, 1875 02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:44,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you can submit to us your 1876 02:23:44,900 --> 02:23:45,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your 1877 02:23:46,280 --> 02:23:49,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: recommendations as to interventions of the task force, 1878 02:23:49,500 --> 02:23:50,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: no? 1879 02:23:52,600 --> 02:23:53,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that we can address 1880 02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:54,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh... 1881 02:23:54,780 --> 02:23:56,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: incomes of the farmers and 1882 02:23:56,940 --> 02:23:58,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will drop, 1883 02:23:58,840 --> 02:23:59,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, 1884 02:23:59,320 --> 02:24:02,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: their output will drop, 1885 02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:05,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: supply harvests will drop, 1886 02:24:06,480 --> 02:24:08,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as if it's not bad, 1887 02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:09,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know. 1888 02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:11,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So it can get worse 1889 02:24:11,780 --> 02:24:13,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: before it gets, 1890 02:24:13,900 --> 02:24:14,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sabi nga nila, 1891 02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:14,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: worse. 1892 02:24:15,140 --> 02:24:16,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So hopefully we can 1893 02:24:16,640 --> 02:24:18,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have timely intervention. 1894 02:24:18,660 --> 02:24:21,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So at least from the point of view of the DEV, 1895 02:24:21,180 --> 02:24:24,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what do you anticipate will be the impact? 1896 02:24:24,780 --> 02:24:26,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What interventions will have to be undertaken? 1897 02:24:26,780 --> 02:24:28,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'll raise this question also with 1898 02:24:28,780 --> 02:24:29,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh... 1899 02:24:29,780 --> 02:24:31,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: with the budget of the 1900 02:24:31,780 --> 02:24:33,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Defense Department. 1901 02:24:33,780 --> 02:24:35,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry, there's something that was slipped. 1902 02:24:35,780 --> 02:24:36,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, one more. 1903 02:24:36,780 --> 02:24:37,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This is 1904 02:24:37,780 --> 02:24:39,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: concerning the MAV on pork. 1905 02:24:40,780 --> 02:24:41,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh... 1906 02:24:41,780 --> 02:24:43,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This was brought to my attention by 1907 02:24:43,780 --> 02:24:44,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pork producers, 1908 02:24:44,780 --> 02:24:45,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: pork 1909 02:24:45,780 --> 02:24:47,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hog raisers. 1910 02:24:47,780 --> 02:24:49,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Their concern is that 1911 02:24:49,780 --> 02:24:52,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maybe I can clarify this lang sa plenary, but 1912 02:24:52,780 --> 02:24:54,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: just to, just to give us, uh, 1913 02:24:54,780 --> 02:24:56,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: initially your, 1914 02:24:56,780 --> 02:24:57,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your insights, 1915 02:24:57,780 --> 02:24:58,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ano na ba ang nangyari? 1916 02:24:58,780 --> 02:24:59,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi, 1917 02:24:59,780 --> 02:25:01,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: negative 1918 02:25:01,780 --> 02:25:04,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 4.5 na ang inflation ng pork. 1919 02:25:04,780 --> 02:25:05,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, 1920 02:25:05,780 --> 02:25:07,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so, well, that's a good sign, but, uh, 1921 02:25:07,780 --> 02:25:11,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are we exhausting yung, uh, MAV 1922 02:25:11,780 --> 02:25:12,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for that? 1923 02:25:12,780 --> 02:25:14,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Baka naman hindi na kailangan. 1924 02:25:14,780 --> 02:25:15,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, 1925 02:25:15,780 --> 02:25:18,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and, uh, moving forward, 1926 02:25:18,780 --> 02:25:20,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they said they weren't consulted or they were, 1927 02:25:20,780 --> 02:25:21,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: there was not, 1928 02:25:21,780 --> 02:25:23,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: there was insufficient consultation. 1929 02:25:23,780 --> 02:25:24,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, 1930 02:25:24,780 --> 02:25:25,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: moving forward, 1931 02:25:25,780 --> 02:25:27,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if you will make some adjustments, 1932 02:25:27,780 --> 02:25:28,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: can we make sure that they are, 1933 02:25:28,780 --> 02:25:29,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 1934 02:25:29,780 --> 02:25:31,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: part of the consultation process? 1935 02:25:31,780 --> 02:25:32,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, 1936 02:25:32,780 --> 02:25:33,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: go ahead, 1937 02:25:33,780 --> 02:25:34,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 1938 02:25:34,780 --> 02:25:35,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Secretary. 1939 02:25:35,780 --> 02:25:36,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We understand, 1940 02:25:36,780 --> 02:25:37,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1941 02:25:37,780 --> 02:25:38,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Your Honor, 1942 02:25:38,780 --> 02:25:39,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that, 1943 02:25:39,780 --> 02:25:40,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1944 02:25:40,780 --> 02:25:41,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that the, 1945 02:25:41,780 --> 02:25:42,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1946 02:25:42,780 --> 02:25:43,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: executive order that implements the revised, 1947 02:25:43,780 --> 02:25:44,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1948 02:25:44,780 --> 02:25:45,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: MAV, 1949 02:25:45,780 --> 02:25:46,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: na, 1950 02:25:46,780 --> 02:25:47,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: was, 1951 02:25:47,780 --> 02:25:48,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1952 02:25:48,780 --> 02:25:49,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: not implemented, 1953 02:25:49,780 --> 02:25:50,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1954 02:25:50,780 --> 02:25:51,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: was, 1955 02:25:51,780 --> 02:25:52,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1956 02:25:52,780 --> 02:25:53,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in the Department of Agriculture. 1957 02:25:53,780 --> 02:25:54,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, 1958 02:25:54,780 --> 02:25:55,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1959 02:25:55,780 --> 02:25:56,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1960 02:25:56,780 --> 02:25:57,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so it's, 1961 02:25:57,780 --> 02:25:58,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: it's nothing, 1962 02:25:58,780 --> 02:25:59,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: it has not changed yet. 1963 02:25:59,780 --> 02:26:00,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Uh, 1964 02:26:00,780 --> 02:26:01,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1965 02:26:01,780 --> 02:26:03,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but we just want to clarify with respect to the, 1966 02:26:03,780 --> 02:26:04,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1967 02:26:04,780 --> 02:26:05,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: prices. 1968 02:26:05,780 --> 02:26:06,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Uh, 1969 02:26:06,780 --> 02:26:07,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: it's indeed true that, 1970 02:26:07,780 --> 02:26:08,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1971 02:26:08,780 --> 02:26:09,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1972 02:26:09,780 --> 02:26:11,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: since the beginning of this year, 1973 02:26:11,780 --> 02:26:12,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1974 02:26:12,780 --> 02:26:13,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: today, 1975 02:26:13,780 --> 02:26:14,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we witnessed, 1976 02:26:14,780 --> 02:26:15,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1977 02:26:15,780 --> 02:26:16,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1978 02:26:16,780 --> 02:26:17,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: decrease in the prices of pork. 1979 02:26:17,780 --> 02:26:18,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Uh, 1980 02:26:18,780 --> 02:26:19,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1981 02:26:19,780 --> 02:26:20,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but, 1982 02:26:20,780 --> 02:26:21,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1983 02:26:21,780 --> 02:26:22,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the, 1984 02:26:22,780 --> 02:26:23,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: um, 1985 02:26:23,780 --> 02:26:24,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1986 02:26:24,780 --> 02:26:25,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in 20, 1987 02:26:25,780 --> 02:26:26,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: between 24, 1988 02:26:26,780 --> 02:26:27,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 20, 1989 02:26:27,780 --> 02:26:28,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in 2025, 1990 02:26:28,780 --> 02:26:29,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1991 02:26:29,780 --> 02:26:30,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: um, 1992 02:26:30,780 --> 02:26:31,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from August, 1993 02:26:31,780 --> 02:26:32,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1994 02:26:32,780 --> 02:26:33,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of, 1995 02:26:33,780 --> 02:26:34,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1996 02:26:34,780 --> 02:26:35,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 2024 to August of 2025, 1997 02:26:35,780 --> 02:26:36,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 1998 02:26:36,780 --> 02:26:37,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: prices of pork were actually rising, 1999 02:26:37,780 --> 02:26:39,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and then it started falling since, 2000 02:26:39,780 --> 02:26:40,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2001 02:26:40,780 --> 02:26:41,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2002 02:26:41,780 --> 02:26:42,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: August or, 2003 02:26:42,780 --> 02:26:43,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2004 02:26:43,780 --> 02:26:44,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: this year, 2005 02:26:44,780 --> 02:26:45,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: no? 2006 02:26:45,780 --> 02:26:46,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, 2007 02:26:46,780 --> 02:26:47,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2008 02:26:47,780 --> 02:26:48,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: if you combine the two, 2009 02:26:48,780 --> 02:26:49,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2010 02:26:49,780 --> 02:26:50,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: periods, 2011 02:26:50,780 --> 02:26:51,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: prices are flat, 2012 02:26:51,780 --> 02:26:52,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so it's, 2013 02:26:52,780 --> 02:26:53,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2014 02:26:53,780 --> 02:26:54,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: it's just the, 2015 02:26:54,780 --> 02:26:55,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the, 2016 02:26:55,780 --> 02:26:56,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the fall this year is just, 2017 02:26:56,780 --> 02:26:57,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2018 02:26:57,780 --> 02:26:58,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: compensating for the, 2019 02:26:58,780 --> 02:26:59,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2020 02:26:59,780 --> 02:27:00,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for the rise in, 2021 02:27:00,780 --> 02:27:01,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: um, 2022 02:27:01,780 --> 02:27:02,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in 2024 and 2025. 2023 02:27:02,780 --> 02:27:03,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Uh, 2024 02:27:03,780 --> 02:27:04,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so it's, 2025 02:27:04,780 --> 02:27:05,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2026 02:27:05,780 --> 02:27:06,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but of course, 2027 02:27:06,780 --> 02:27:07,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: if it continues, 2028 02:27:07,780 --> 02:27:08,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2029 02:27:08,780 --> 02:27:09,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for, 2030 02:27:09,780 --> 02:27:10,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2031 02:27:10,780 --> 02:27:11,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the long haul, 2032 02:27:11,780 --> 02:27:12,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: then it, 2033 02:27:12,780 --> 02:27:13,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that's, 2034 02:27:13,780 --> 02:27:14,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2035 02:27:14,780 --> 02:27:15,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: something to worry about. 2036 02:27:20,780 --> 02:27:26,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If it's not been implemented, 2037 02:27:26,780 --> 02:27:27,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as you say, 2038 02:27:27,780 --> 02:27:28,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and they say they want to be consulted, 2039 02:27:28,780 --> 02:27:30,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maybe we can reach out to them, 2040 02:27:30,780 --> 02:27:31,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 2041 02:27:31,780 --> 02:27:32,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: through the, 2042 02:27:32,780 --> 02:27:33,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Tariff Committee. 2043 02:27:33,780 --> 02:27:34,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Uh, 2044 02:27:34,780 --> 02:27:35,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I can relate to you, 2045 02:27:35,780 --> 02:27:36,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 2046 02:27:36,780 --> 02:27:38,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: endorse to you their concerns. 2047 02:27:38,780 --> 02:27:39,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Um, 2048 02:27:39,780 --> 02:27:40,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thank you, 2049 02:27:40,780 --> 02:27:41,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: thank you, 2050 02:27:41,780 --> 02:27:42,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Secretary. 2051 02:27:42,780 --> 02:27:43,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: For clarification, 2052 02:27:43,780 --> 02:27:44,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, 2053 02:27:44,780 --> 02:27:45,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the, 2054 02:27:45,780 --> 02:27:46,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2055 02:27:46,780 --> 02:27:47,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because it's a MAV, 2056 02:27:47,780 --> 02:27:48,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that's a DA matter. 2057 02:27:48,780 --> 02:27:49,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yes, 2058 02:27:49,780 --> 02:27:50,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: oh, 2059 02:27:50,780 --> 02:27:51,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: yes, 2060 02:27:51,780 --> 02:27:52,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that's correct. 2061 02:27:52,780 --> 02:27:53,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But the Tariff Commission is chaired by you. 2062 02:27:53,780 --> 02:27:54,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Right. 2063 02:27:54,780 --> 02:27:55,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Committee, 2064 02:27:55,780 --> 02:27:56,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: rather, 2065 02:27:56,780 --> 02:27:57,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Tariff Committee. 2066 02:27:57,780 --> 02:27:58,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Um, 2067 02:27:58,780 --> 02:27:59,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and therefore, 2068 02:27:59,780 --> 02:28:02,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the consultations are done by the Committee. 2069 02:28:02,780 --> 02:28:03,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Uh, 2070 02:28:03,780 --> 02:28:04,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2071 02:28:04,780 --> 02:28:05,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the MAV Council. 2072 02:28:05,780 --> 02:28:06,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The MAV Council is different, 2073 02:28:06,780 --> 02:28:07,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh. 2074 02:28:07,780 --> 02:28:08,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: No, 2075 02:28:08,780 --> 02:28:09,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but you are part of the MAV Council. 2076 02:28:09,780 --> 02:28:10,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yeah, 2077 02:28:10,780 --> 02:28:11,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but the Tariff and Related Matters, 2078 02:28:11,780 --> 02:28:12,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2079 02:28:12,780 --> 02:28:13,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is another, 2080 02:28:13,780 --> 02:28:14,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: uh, 2081 02:28:14,780 --> 02:28:15,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: committee. 2082 02:28:15,780 --> 02:28:16,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Your vote in the Tariff Council, 2083 02:28:16,780 --> 02:28:17,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 2084 02:28:17,780 --> 02:28:18,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is a different, 2085 02:28:18,780 --> 02:28:19,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 2086 02:28:19,780 --> 02:28:20,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the MAV Council, 2087 02:28:20,780 --> 02:28:21,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the MAV Council will, 2088 02:28:21,780 --> 02:28:22,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will, 2089 02:28:22,780 --> 02:28:23,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 2090 02:28:23,780 --> 02:28:24,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: will help, 2091 02:28:24,780 --> 02:28:25,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of course, 2092 02:28:25,780 --> 02:28:26,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: no? 2093 02:28:26,780 --> 02:28:27,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Uh, 2094 02:28:27,780 --> 02:28:28,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for changes in the tariff, 2095 02:28:28,780 --> 02:28:29,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: because of, 2096 02:28:29,780 --> 02:28:30,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: say, 2097 02:28:30,780 --> 02:28:31,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: trade remedies, 2098 02:28:31,780 --> 02:28:32,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and that goes to, 2099 02:28:32,780 --> 02:28:33,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh, 2100 02:28:33,780 --> 02:28:34,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Tariff Commission. 2101 02:28:34,780 --> 02:28:35,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, 2102 02:28:35,780 --> 02:28:36,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: okay. 2103 02:28:36,780 --> 02:28:37,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you for the clarification. 2104 02:28:37,780 --> 02:28:38,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, 2105 02:28:38,780 --> 02:28:39,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Secretary Pangilinan. 2106 02:28:39,780 --> 02:28:40,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Next to, 2107 02:28:40,780 --> 02:28:41,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: uh, 2108 02:28:41,780 --> 02:28:42,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ask questions is, 2109 02:28:42,780 --> 02:28:43,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: uh, 2110 02:28:43,780 --> 02:28:44,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Senator Erwin Tulfo. 2111 02:28:44,780 --> 02:28:45,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, 2112 02:28:45,780 --> 02:28:46,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mr. Chair. 2113 02:28:46,780 --> 02:28:47,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Uh, 2114 02:28:47,780 --> 02:28:48,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: just, 2115 02:28:48,780 --> 02:28:49,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: of the 2116 02:28:49,780 --> 02:28:50,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: investment, 2117 02:28:50,780 --> 02:28:51,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: uh, 2118 02:28:51,780 --> 02:28:52,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: pledges 2119 02:28:52,780 --> 02:28:53,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: by countries 2120 02:28:53,780 --> 02:28:54,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: visited by 2121 02:28:54,780 --> 02:28:55,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: PBBM 2122 02:28:55,780 --> 02:28:56,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: since he took office 2123 02:28:56,780 --> 02:28:57,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: in 2022, 2124 02:28:57,780 --> 02:28:58,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: how many, 2125 02:28:58,780 --> 02:28:59,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: so far, 2126 02:28:59,780 --> 02:29:00,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: sir, 2127 02:29:00,780 --> 02:29:01,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: have fulfilled those 2128 02:29:01,780 --> 02:29:02,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: pledges? 2129 02:29:02,780 --> 02:29:03,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Alam ko po, 2130 02:29:03,780 --> 02:29:04,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: ang daming niya pong binisita. 2131 02:29:04,780 --> 02:29:05,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And then, 2132 02:29:05,780 --> 02:29:06,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: every time he visits, 2133 02:29:06,780 --> 02:29:07,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: eh, 2134 02:29:07,780 --> 02:29:08,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: yun naman talagang purpose niya. 2135 02:29:08,780 --> 02:29:09,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I was still Secretary of the SWD. 2136 02:29:09,780 --> 02:29:10,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I keep on hearing 2137 02:29:10,780 --> 02:29:11,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: from them, 2138 02:29:11,780 --> 02:29:12,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: they're saying, 2139 02:29:12,780 --> 02:29:13,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: like, 2140 02:29:13,780 --> 02:29:14,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: uh, 2141 02:29:14,780 --> 02:29:15,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: we're pledging this, 2142 02:29:15,780 --> 02:29:16,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: pledging that, 2143 02:29:16,780 --> 02:29:17,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: eh, 2144 02:29:17,780 --> 02:29:19,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: several billions of dollars already. 2145 02:29:19,780 --> 02:29:20,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: How many, 2146 02:29:20,780 --> 02:29:21,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: so far, 2147 02:29:21,780 --> 02:29:22,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: have, 2148 02:29:22,780 --> 02:29:23,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: eh, 2149 02:29:23,780 --> 02:29:24,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: ikang made those pledges, 2150 02:29:24,780 --> 02:29:25,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: eh, 2151 02:29:25,780 --> 02:29:26,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: a reality, 2152 02:29:26,780 --> 02:29:27,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: ah, 2153 02:29:27,780 --> 02:29:28,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mr. Secretary? 2154 02:29:28,780 --> 02:29:29,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Ah, 2155 02:29:29,780 --> 02:29:30,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I would have to consult my, 2156 02:29:30,780 --> 02:29:31,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2157 02:29:31,780 --> 02:29:32,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Secretary Goh, 2158 02:29:32,780 --> 02:29:33,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: who was then, 2159 02:29:33,780 --> 02:29:34,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2160 02:29:34,780 --> 02:29:35,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the person on top of the monitoring 2161 02:29:35,780 --> 02:29:36,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of these, 2162 02:29:36,780 --> 02:29:37,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2163 02:29:37,780 --> 02:29:38,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: commitments. 2164 02:29:38,780 --> 02:29:39,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Ah, 2165 02:29:39,780 --> 02:29:40,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but he then, 2166 02:29:40,780 --> 02:29:41,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2167 02:29:41,780 --> 02:29:42,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: moved to, 2168 02:29:42,780 --> 02:29:43,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2169 02:29:43,780 --> 02:29:44,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DOF, 2170 02:29:44,780 --> 02:29:45,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so it's now, 2171 02:29:45,780 --> 02:29:46,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2172 02:29:46,780 --> 02:29:47,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: it's, 2173 02:29:47,780 --> 02:29:48,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2174 02:29:48,780 --> 02:29:49,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: your honor. 2175 02:29:49,780 --> 02:29:50,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So I, 2176 02:29:50,780 --> 02:29:50,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I, 2177 02:29:50,820 --> 02:29:51,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I could ask them to share us, 2178 02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:51,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ah, 2179 02:29:51,640 --> 02:29:52,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the information, 2180 02:29:52,160 --> 02:29:53,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and I can submit it to you. 2181 02:29:53,440 --> 02:29:54,120 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Please do so, 2182 02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:54,640 Senator Erwin Tulfo: because, 2183 02:29:54,640 --> 02:29:54,880 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I 2184 02:29:54,880 --> 02:29:55,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: believe, 2185 02:29:55,400 --> 02:29:56,520 Senator Erwin Tulfo: um, 2186 02:29:56,520 --> 02:29:57,600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: that's what we really need, 2187 02:29:57,600 --> 02:29:58,120 Senator Erwin Tulfo: like, 2188 02:29:58,120 --> 02:29:58,760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: investments, 2189 02:29:58,760 --> 02:29:59,760 Senator Erwin Tulfo: more investments 2190 02:29:59,760 --> 02:30:00,680 Senator Erwin Tulfo: for this country. 2191 02:30:00,680 --> 02:30:05,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And I believe may mga naging, ah, uh, 2192 02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:13,180 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Most of them were fruitful and it did happen, Mr. Secretary. So hindi naman nasayang yung pagbisita ng ating Pangulo. 2193 02:30:13,180 --> 02:30:37,900 Senator Erwin Tulfo: My next question, sir, is would you happen to know na number, I don't know, I want to ask you this. I'm kind of surprised kasi there was a survey, sir, it says ito pong World Happiness Report 2026. Believe it or not, the Philippines ranks as the fourth happiest in Southeast Asia. 2194 02:30:37,900 --> 02:30:43,060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I don't know for what reason bakit tayo happy and dami naman yung problema natin dito. 2195 02:30:43,400 --> 02:31:00,740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Would you happen to know, ito ba yung nakarating na sa inyo, pinag-aaralan na ba ninyo bakit tayo rank fourth? Well, sa Southeast Asia. Pero overall po, sir, sa worldwide, pang 56 po tayo. Why is that? 2196 02:31:01,740 --> 02:31:12,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: That's one metric that some people conceived to supplement or even. 2197 02:31:13,180 --> 02:31:41,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Some to replace the traditional indicators like GDP, Mr. Chair. But usually the indicators are based on perceptions. So they're not quite strictly comparable to the traditional metrics that we have. 2198 02:31:43,180 --> 02:32:03,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Like employment or inflation or GDP. It's more akin to, I believe, how social weather station surveys people's perception and the state of the economy or well-being, Mr. Chair. 2199 02:32:03,980 --> 02:32:12,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, yeah, Butan is the one that has been the advocate of this. 2200 02:32:13,180 --> 02:32:42,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Gross domestic happiness as a measure of well-being for countries. And there are some countries that actually want that idea, but still not part of the global mainstream for compilation of statistics. 2201 02:32:43,180 --> 02:32:45,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Especially involving welfare. 2202 02:32:45,940 --> 02:32:59,820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kasi kung titignan mo, Mr. Secretary, sa social media, kung ano-ano sinasabi, parang wala ng pag-asa itong ating bayan. Kung anong-anong paninira na politika, et cetera, mahal na kuryente, mahal na bilihin. 2203 02:32:59,820 --> 02:33:12,940 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dapat it will, ika nga, yung ating minimum wage, et cetera. So, not that far with other countries. Pero, I don't know. I would appreciate it, sir. 2204 02:33:13,180 --> 02:33:26,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: If you would look into this, I just want to find out why. Why are we ranked fourth happiest in Southeast Asia? We're the fourth, our people are the fourth happiest people in ASEAN, sir. 2205 02:33:26,400 --> 02:33:37,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I will look into that and what data factors that they consider in compiling the data, Mr. Chair. 2206 02:33:37,420 --> 02:33:40,060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: All right. I have another question, sir. 2207 02:33:41,260 --> 02:33:43,140 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I find the bill. 2208 02:33:43,180 --> 02:34:07,920 Senator Erwin Tulfo: When I came here in the Senate last year, on the lifetime validity of PWD IDs, inincorporate na po ba ang PWID sa national ID? Kasi ito pong reklamo ng PWDs. Every year or two years or three years, they have to go to the city hall, to the munisipyo. They have to travel, lalo na po yung may problema sa mobility. 2209 02:34:09,100 --> 02:34:13,040 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Inconvenient nga naman. So, I filed a bill na maging gawin na po. 2210 02:34:13,180 --> 02:34:23,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Itong lifetime. Habang nabubuhay yung PWD, tawag na siya mag-renew na mag-renew. Dahil kita naman, may kapansanang, putol ang paa, etc. na makalakad. 2211 02:34:26,020 --> 02:34:30,740 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Na-incorporate ba ito sa national ID or wala pa po? Wala pang plano dito? 2212 02:34:43,180 --> 02:34:55,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, it's now under discussion with the National Council of Disability Affairs. I think it's with the board. 2213 02:34:56,040 --> 02:35:01,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And once we have that recommendation, we'll pass it on to PSA for action. 2214 02:35:01,960 --> 02:35:13,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: All right. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Another point I want to raise with you, your office. I also filed a bill on Philippine Oil Reserve. 2215 02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:22,540 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Maaaring po bang malaman ang posisyon po ng DepDev? How will this strongly help our country's economy in terms of oil shortage? 2216 02:35:23,140 --> 02:35:30,840 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Actually, I've been speaking to some of the representatives of ADNOC in Abu Dhabi. 2217 02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:41,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: They're very willing, Mr. Secretary, to put up storage facilities. Matter of fact, they want to put up storage facilities in Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao. 2218 02:35:41,000 --> 02:35:57,960 Senator Erwin Tulfo: All we have to do is we have to come up or we have to identify an area where they can put the storage facilities. Depende daw po sa ating kung gano'ng kalaki. And they're looking at around 50 million barrels they want to store. 2219 02:35:57,960 --> 02:36:14,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So kung malalagyan. Pero when we were computing, it's a Department of Energy, it will take like about 500 hectares for that 50 million barrels. Because we consume like around 450,000 barrels per day. 2220 02:36:15,060 --> 02:36:26,600 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Saudi Arabia is also, Aramco is also interested, Mr. Secretary, in the same deal. Bahala po tayo sa lupa, sila po ang magkukonstruct. 2221 02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:44,960 Senator Erwin Tulfo: No money out po sa atin. Pati yung reserve po, yung fuel, ilalagay po nila. Well, double purpose din po sa kanila yun para kung magkakaroon na naman ng gera or something to that effect like closing Strait of Hormuz, Arabian Sea, etc. 2222 02:36:45,240 --> 02:36:55,860 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Meron na po silang pagkukunan na labas sa country nila. That's what their plans are. And then, what do we get out of it will be the first priority. 2223 02:36:55,860 --> 02:37:21,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, number two, hindi naman totally bawaba na malaki yung price. Pero may konting effect because hindi na po itatransport kung meron na po mga storage facilities. I believe DOE also is making or talking with Japan, Ministry of Energy, METI. 2224 02:37:21,080 --> 02:37:24,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, yun po. Yung tatlong... 2225 02:37:25,860 --> 02:37:32,320 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Aspect po na yun. Yun ang tanong ko sa inyo. Anong position nyo rito, Secretary? 2226 02:37:32,320 --> 02:37:53,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I think the cost of energy and security, Mr. Chair, Your Honor, is very, very high as we have experienced it. So, we should explore options like what you're... 2227 02:37:55,860 --> 02:38:25,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: proposing, Your Honor. And this one that's the most fiscally and economically viable. Of course, even for oil reserve storage, there are possibly other ways of achieving that. And we need to look at what is the most advantageous, especially from a fiscal point of view. 2228 02:38:25,860 --> 02:38:39,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Space viewpoint because our fiscal space is so challenging. And we should undertake such measure. 2229 02:38:39,860 --> 02:38:43,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Of course, there are other things that... 2230 02:38:51,860 --> 02:38:55,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Other things that we need to do. 2231 02:38:55,860 --> 02:39:21,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: To complement that measure, Mr. Chair, like increasing the mix of our energy. It should be seriously considered too because we are so vulnerable in having just a few sources. I'm talking about, for example, the need to perhaps even consider nuclear energy to the extent that these are 2232 02:39:21,860 --> 02:39:47,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: technologically manageable. And we can assure of the safety of such technology because that's very cheap also from a source of energy. And so, yeah, I completely agree. We should move into diversifying our sources and making sure that we need the power when we need the most. 2233 02:39:48,540 --> 02:39:51,840 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mr. Secretary, I believe on your next cabinet meeting, you might want to... 2234 02:39:51,880 --> 02:39:56,280 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I'm going to have to inform or remind the President because I believe on his visit in Dubai, 2235 02:39:56,480 --> 02:40:08,820 Senator Erwin Tulfo: he was already informed of their interest in building storage facilities. I believe Secretary Garin was also informed about it. 2236 02:40:09,140 --> 02:40:20,420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So, and just recently, Saudi Arabia also made a proposal wherein they want to build storage facilities. If we have all these countries' storage facilities, 2237 02:40:20,420 --> 02:40:28,960 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I guess we won't have any problems. Hindi po tayo kakaba-kaba pag nagkaroon po ng mga gera in the very near future dahil nandito po yung kanilang facilities. 2238 02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:38,440 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Another thing, Mr. Secretary, I want to bring to your attention. I don't know. Gusto ko sanang paimbestigahan because I'm the chairman of the Committee on Energy. 2239 02:40:39,020 --> 02:40:49,220 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Unfortunately, we're in the process of conducting impeachment trial and then meron po kami budget hearing. But I really would love to get my hands on this issue. 2240 02:40:50,420 --> 02:41:05,500 Senator Erwin Tulfo: About our electricity rate. I found out, Mr. Secretary, maybe your office, maybe you can help us out. You can help my committee look into this because we have a problem with our power. 2241 02:41:05,500 --> 02:41:19,900 Senator Erwin Tulfo: It's one of the most expensive or the most expensive in the sea. But Mr. Secretary, when I did my research a couple of days ago, about 60% of our power, electricity, the source is coal. 2242 02:41:20,340 --> 02:41:20,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: 60%. 2243 02:41:20,420 --> 02:41:34,140 Senator Erwin Tulfo: About 10% to 15% is a bunker fuel. Pero how come the rate is so high, Mr. Secretary? And so I looked into it and I saw the problem. 2244 02:41:34,960 --> 02:41:47,300 Senator Erwin Tulfo: We get most of our coal from Jakarta. It's like 3 pesos per kilowatt hour. Bunker fuel per kilowatt hour is like about 25, 35 pesos. So there's a big difference. 2245 02:41:47,300 --> 02:42:01,580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: 3 pesos po itong isa. 35 po itong isa. Pero pag dumating na po sa WESEM, sa spot market, pumapantay na po yung coal. 2246 02:42:02,380 --> 02:42:13,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: At ang reason, kasi daw yung shipment. And I don't think, Mr. Secretary, na from 3 pesos, aabot sa 35 pesos ang coal dahil sa shipment. 2247 02:42:15,240 --> 02:42:17,220 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Pinapantay po. Nagkakaproblema po tayo sa WESEM. 2248 02:42:17,220 --> 02:42:33,420 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Sa spot market. Pumapantay po yung 3 pesos na coal sa bunker fuel. I guess if we can address this issue, if we can call the attention of WESEM, and probably the ERC can help us out, control this. 2249 02:42:33,940 --> 02:42:46,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I believe, Mr. Secretary, magiging affordable kahit papano yung electricity natin. Hindi po, sir. Ang ginagawa po sa spot market, dito po yung bunker fuel, dito po yung coal. 2250 02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:53,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Pinapantay po nila. You get what I mean? Wala na po yung difference eh. 2251 02:42:54,280 --> 02:43:00,320 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Eh dapat po mas mura dahil coal po tayo. Hindi naman po bunker. Bunker is only 15%. 2252 02:43:00,320 --> 02:43:12,160 Senator Erwin Tulfo: We use like about 60%. So maybe, Mr. Secretary, through your office, maybe you can call the attention of the WESEM para po ikang matignan po ito. 2253 02:43:12,160 --> 02:43:14,640 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Because there's really a big disparity, Mr. Secretary. 2254 02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:22,620 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And if we can do something about this, I guess we can bring the electricity rate down, Secretary Balisakan. 2255 02:43:24,880 --> 02:43:26,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Look into it, sir. 2256 02:43:27,100 --> 02:43:42,140 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, sir. That's what we found out recently. And I was informed by my contacts in the Energy Department na yan nga daw po ang problema. 2257 02:43:42,140 --> 02:43:43,360 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Alright, sir. 2258 02:43:46,080 --> 02:44:12,920 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Under the 2025 COA report, Mr. Secretary, the NEDA Building Improvement Project, Phase 1, 2, and 3, with a combined contract cost of 641.556 million, remain not completed due to risk, contingencies, and other circumstances not adequately considered by both the agency and the contractor. 2259 02:44:13,760 --> 02:44:16,020 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Resulting in project delays. 2260 02:44:16,080 --> 02:44:40,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Resulting in project delays and multiple contract amendments, extensions, which affected the timely delivery of intended benefits to end-users. Moreover, payment for variation orders arising from the erroneous as found plans submitted by the contractor resulted in increased costs to the agency and further contributed to delays in project completion. 2261 02:44:40,960 --> 02:44:49,100 Senator Erwin Tulfo: May project delays po ang NEDA building, improvement project with a combined contract cost worth 641 million. 2262 02:44:49,900 --> 02:44:52,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Madaming contract amendments and extensions. 2263 02:44:53,640 --> 02:44:58,060 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Naayos na po ba itong problema na ito, Mr. Secretary? 2264 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:18,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yes, Mr. Chair, but I have my Undersecretary Monica Pagunsan here who is in charge of our building project to brief you on that. 2265 02:45:18,400 --> 02:45:44,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But what you mentioned is correct. We only found later after digging the basement for the basement of the building that the structure of the building adjacent to what we are trying to build was not stable because I believe some defects in the earlier construction. 2266 02:45:44,780 --> 02:45:48,380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: What is the problem initially on your investment? 2267 02:45:48,400 --> 02:46:01,860 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Before we go to the Undersecretary, I don't have any problem as a design. Is it the contractor's fault trying to save money? What is it? 2268 02:46:01,860 --> 02:46:17,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: No, I believe what happened, the design was correct, Your Honor. But when the contractor, after digging the grounds, where the building would be put up is just… 2269 02:46:18,400 --> 02:46:48,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It was adjacent to an existing building and it turned out that the walls for that older building was quite weak and unstable so that the contractor was so concerned that that might collapse and so they had to do some remediation to prevent possible collapse of the walls. 2270 02:46:48,400 --> 02:46:53,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But Monica knows the details better than I do. 2271 02:46:54,800 --> 02:46:57,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Go ahead, Undersecretary, ma'am. Go ahead. 2272 02:46:57,920 --> 02:47:09,780 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Mr. Chair and Senator Tulfo, first of all, we have two constructions. One is for the renovation of the old building. 2273 02:47:11,620 --> 02:47:18,380 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: That was a renovation that does not really have… we don't really have visibility because we don't… 2274 02:47:18,400 --> 02:47:35,420 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: We don't have the as-built plan. So that when you go into the renovation process, you eventually find some things that were not really visible during the inspection, which really have to do an investigation. 2275 02:47:36,560 --> 02:47:42,980 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: But these are only minor, no? But we really have to correct them. 2276 02:47:44,160 --> 02:47:47,980 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Another one is there was a delay because at that time… 2277 02:47:48,400 --> 02:47:56,020 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: We have asked for help from DPWH to retrofit that old building. 2278 02:47:57,140 --> 02:48:02,420 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: There was a… and that was a contract entered into by DPWH. 2279 02:48:02,420 --> 02:48:16,560 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: That is why when DPWH was doing the retrofitting, we did not accept the result, no? 2280 02:48:16,560 --> 02:48:17,560 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Of the first… 2281 02:48:18,400 --> 02:48:30,440 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: The completion. In other words, we did not accept the project. That was why there was also a delay in the execution of the renovation. 2282 02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:37,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kaya nga, ma'am, saan ho naging problema? Lack of foresight? Kanino pong kasalanan? Is it the contractor? 2283 02:48:37,080 --> 02:48:47,840 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Of course, when you do renovation, Undersecretary, there will be plans. Good thing po, nakita ho ninyo bago may madisgrasya, di po ba may mamatay. 2284 02:48:48,400 --> 02:49:03,080 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kunting lindo lang ho yan. Tama si Secretary. Baka may mga masaktan. So, it was good. Pero my question is, lack of foresight? Yung planning? O yung ikang drawing ng architect? 2285 02:49:03,080 --> 02:49:09,900 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I mean, they should have submitted plans for the repair, Undersecretary. 2286 02:49:10,480 --> 02:49:17,800 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: There are really cases, Senator, that we really have to rely on as-built plans. 2287 02:49:18,400 --> 02:49:28,460 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Unfortunately, there was none. We can no longer find the as-built plan which was done in 19… I mean, the building was built in 1972. 2288 02:49:28,740 --> 02:49:43,740 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: We cannot find that. So that, when we came up with a plan, we were not able to see certain issues that still needs to be addressed. 2289 02:49:44,480 --> 02:49:47,460 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: But really, the main delay there was that the implementation… 2290 02:49:48,400 --> 02:49:59,240 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: The implementation of the retrofitting, which we cannot also go ahead. We had to complete the retrofitting first before we can continue with the execution of the plan. 2291 02:49:59,240 --> 02:50:18,240 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Which we consider na there was really no… The plan was alright. It's in order. However, the delay really was on. 2292 02:50:18,240 --> 02:50:36,700 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: On the retrofitting, and as well as certain areas that we need to correct in the design of the building based on the as-found when we did a deeper investigation of the project. 2293 02:50:37,340 --> 02:50:47,680 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: So, we did our best. I think there was… Our designers did… They may not have anticipated this. 2294 02:50:47,680 --> 02:51:05,000 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: However, dahil as-found… We did not find it during the design stage. Dahil it's… You really have to open up the certain areas before you do remediation. 2295 02:51:05,560 --> 02:51:17,580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kasi ma'am, kung may mga… Kung ang problem po ninyo, yung pagiging stable ng building when you construct it, meron po dapat ikaw nga mga tinatawag tayo na soil. 2296 02:51:17,680 --> 02:51:33,480 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ito ba yung malambot? Kasi may mga projects po tayo, take the case of that skyway they built in Iloilo, sagging po at sumasayaw-sayaw ngayon because hindi po sila nag-soil test. 2297 02:51:33,480 --> 02:51:47,120 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Kaya yung foundation ng tulay ko sa Iloilo, gumaganoon. Under investigation nga din po. Kasama po yun dyan sa flood control issue. Kasi nga po yung contractor iniimbestigahan na ngayon dahil hindi nga po stable. 2298 02:51:47,680 --> 02:52:04,360 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Wala po bang ginawang soil test ang ika nga contractor o yung engineers na ika nga nagagawa po ng building na yan para ika nga masiguro na safe po na magtayo ng building dyan? 2299 02:52:06,520 --> 02:52:16,720 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: We did have a soil testing, Mr. Chair, but really… And we did even go into the investigation of the entire building, of the old building. 2300 02:52:17,680 --> 02:52:23,020 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: And that was also the basis for the design, for the structural design of the building. 2301 02:52:23,740 --> 02:52:34,080 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: It's just that naabutan po kami. We had to retrofit and strengthen the foundation of the old building. 2302 02:52:37,880 --> 02:52:47,020 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Yung nare-refer po ng kuha namin, it's on the size of the particular… 2303 02:52:47,680 --> 02:53:02,580 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Building. I mean, the size of that particular area wherein we really do have to make some variation order because of as found nga na po na we need to address. 2304 02:53:03,080 --> 02:53:06,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So ano hong status ngayon ng construction po na yan? Naka-hold po? 2305 02:53:06,940 --> 02:53:15,700 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: No, sir. We are now at the… There are different phases kasi. For the first phase, we're already on 96%. 2306 02:53:17,680 --> 02:53:37,680 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: For the second phase… No, sorry. For the first phase, it's 90.75%. For the second phase, it's at 96.67%. 2307 02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:46,680 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: And the last phase, it's at 87.06%. That is as of August… 2308 02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:59,240 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Ah, September 30, 2026. And we are looking at… September 30 pala, sorry. 2309 02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:15,220 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: August 31, 2026. And we are expecting to transfer by January, Mr. Senator Tulfo. 2310 02:54:15,220 --> 02:54:17,580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: All right, ma'am. I'm satisfied. 2311 02:54:17,680 --> 02:54:19,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I'm satisfied with your answer. Parang kinakabahan ho kayo. 2312 02:54:20,060 --> 02:54:25,060 DEPDev Undersecretary Ma. Monica P. Pagunsan: Kinakabahan ho talaga ako. Kaya I was not expecting that I'm going to answer this question. 2313 02:54:25,220 --> 02:54:32,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: You blame Secretary Balisakan. Anyway, going back to you, Secretary Balisakan, sir. 2314 02:54:34,320 --> 02:54:45,840 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Last August 2026, I don't know if this was already asked kanina by my colleagues, the Senate created the Reinvigorate Investment and Sustainable Economic Growth or RISE. 2315 02:54:47,680 --> 02:55:04,400 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Ad-hoc committee to address the recent slowdown in the Philippine economy. I am the vice chair of this ad-hoc committee, Mr. Secretary. May mga nakikita ba kayong legislative reforms and long-term policy interventions aimed at sustainable economic growth? 2316 02:55:08,400 --> 02:55:16,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We have, Your Honor, the LEDAC, the Reform… 2317 02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:34,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Our legislative list of LEDAC reflect the priorities of the administration to speed up recovery and sustain economic development, Your Honor. 2318 02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:46,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It's a long list, but about 23 of those are committed by both houses of Congress, by the leaders of the both houses. 2319 02:55:47,680 --> 02:55:56,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And the executive to pass by June of next year. Hopefully, we get… 2320 02:55:56,060 --> 02:56:06,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: One of those, for example, is on the energy, the amendment to the EPIRA, Your Honor, to address this high cost of power. 2321 02:56:06,280 --> 02:56:16,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The others have to do with improving accountability and transparency, access to… 2322 02:56:17,680 --> 02:56:32,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Information that we believe will help improve the sentiment of our people, particularly the investing community and our economy. 2323 02:56:32,960 --> 02:56:47,220 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mr. Chair, I mean, Mr. Secretary, is it true because of the economy slowed down last year because of our expenses, government spending, particularly in construction? 2324 02:56:47,680 --> 02:56:54,160 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Dahil nga po, ang center of attention was the flood control by the public works and highways, so nag-slow down. 2325 02:56:55,240 --> 02:57:07,720 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Do you think we will do better this year? I mean, the Senate is funding now construction, I mean, funds for infrastructure by the public works and highways by next year, 2027. 2326 02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:15,780 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Do you think it will greatly help? Because right now, sir, last year or this year, talaga nag-slow down po yung ating economy. 2327 02:57:17,680 --> 02:57:43,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Definitely, Your Honor, because the last two quarters, at least, saw a sharp contraction of public investments, particularly related to the infrastructure, and that easily cleaved off at least one percentage point growth of GDP. 2328 02:57:43,640 --> 02:57:46,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: It's quite an enormous impact. 2329 02:57:47,680 --> 02:58:09,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Then if you combine that with the effects of the Middle East conflict, which led to sharp increases in inflation, that substantially tempered down the sentiments of consumers, 2330 02:58:09,320 --> 02:58:17,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: because those combinations of high prices and lower income growth… 2331 02:58:17,680 --> 02:58:47,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Both meant that their purchasing power was badly affected, and so that, if you look at the consumption side of the economy, also explained the slowdown, because the consumption is a big part of the economy, it's almost a two-third of the economy is just in the consumption, and that slowed down substantially as a result of this weak sentiments of the investment. 2332 02:58:47,680 --> 02:59:09,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And because private sector infrastructure or private sector investment is also very much related with public sector investment, when the public sector investment collapsed, the private sector was also affected severely. 2333 02:59:09,840 --> 02:59:16,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, all this put together led to the situation where we are… 2334 02:59:17,680 --> 02:59:27,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But I believe that we are starting to recover, Mr. Chair. 2335 02:59:30,400 --> 02:59:46,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Our colleagues in DBM assured us that the releases of budgets of all agencies and the current pace of disbursements… 2336 02:59:47,680 --> 03:00:00,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Of contracts, or at least for those that have no, with clear records, could go, and that should… 2337 03:00:00,560 --> 03:00:05,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: allow us to see recovery of construction. 2338 03:00:06,220 --> 03:00:11,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And you can imagine the amount of construction that could happen 2339 03:00:11,440 --> 03:00:14,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: because last two quarters, as I said, 2340 03:00:14,540 --> 03:00:20,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we had almost like 30% contraction per quarter. 2341 03:00:21,160 --> 03:00:25,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And all those unspent money there would have to now be spent 2342 03:00:25,100 --> 03:00:31,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in the last quarter of, at least in the last quarter of this year, 2343 03:00:31,460 --> 03:00:34,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: plus their budget for this year, for this quarter. 2344 03:00:34,820 --> 03:00:38,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So you have enormous resources that would have to be mobilized. 2345 03:00:39,860 --> 03:00:45,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And so if our infrastructure agencies, particularly DPWH, 2346 03:00:45,540 --> 03:00:50,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but also the DepEd for their school classrooms, 2347 03:00:51,820 --> 03:00:54,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DA for their farm-to-market roads and irrigation, 2348 03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:58,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and so on, there's a lot of that, Mr. Chair. 2349 03:00:59,240 --> 03:01:00,380 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Secretary. 2350 03:01:00,780 --> 03:01:04,580 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Mr. Chair, before I go back to the plenary, 2351 03:01:04,780 --> 03:01:09,200 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I would just like to tell this body that I support 2352 03:01:09,200 --> 03:01:12,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: for the passage of the budget of the DEP-DEV. 2353 03:01:15,060 --> 03:01:20,260 Senator Erwin Tulfo: And if there is any more or anything that they would like to add on, 2354 03:01:20,360 --> 03:01:21,700 Senator Erwin Tulfo: we will see at the plenary. 2355 03:01:22,640 --> 03:01:24,660 Senator Erwin Tulfo: So I will be supporting, rest assured, 2356 03:01:25,100 --> 03:01:27,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: I support, Mr. Secretary, 2357 03:01:27,340 --> 03:01:32,240 Senator Erwin Tulfo: for the passage of this budget for 2027 of the DEP-DEV. 2358 03:01:32,360 --> 03:01:33,000 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Secretary. 2359 03:01:34,220 --> 03:01:35,520 Senator Erwin Tulfo: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2360 03:01:35,660 --> 03:01:37,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Senator Erwin Tulfo. 2361 03:01:39,220 --> 03:01:42,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, going back to what we discussed, 2362 03:01:42,180 --> 03:01:46,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I was interested in the query of Senator Tulfo. 2363 03:01:48,360 --> 03:01:52,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's why this budget season, 2364 03:01:52,180 --> 03:01:55,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we really have to accelerate spending and growth. 2365 03:01:55,100 --> 03:01:57,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So that we will be able to play catch-up. 2366 03:01:57,760 --> 03:02:00,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Talagang malaki-laki nga abuli natin. 2367 03:02:01,820 --> 03:02:02,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Is ito, no? 2368 03:02:02,740 --> 03:02:07,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tama, 2% lang tayong GDP this year compared to 4% last year, Secretary? 2369 03:02:07,760 --> 03:02:12,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: 4.4 tayo for the full year next year. 2370 03:02:12,520 --> 03:02:16,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We're still hoping to get at least the low end of our target, 2371 03:02:16,960 --> 03:02:18,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: which is 3.5 to 4.5. 2372 03:02:18,620 --> 03:02:19,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The low end is 3.5. 2373 03:02:19,820 --> 03:02:23,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: If we can get as close as possible to the lower end, 2374 03:02:23,960 --> 03:02:24,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I think that will be half. 2375 03:02:25,100 --> 03:02:27,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Happy because the first two quarters 2376 03:02:27,720 --> 03:02:31,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are already, you know, continue to be... 2377 03:02:31,340 --> 03:02:36,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Talagang grabe effect sa atin nung itong flood control. 2378 03:02:36,860 --> 03:02:38,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: More than a year already. 2379 03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:40,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And we're still reeling from it. 2380 03:02:40,920 --> 03:02:44,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hopefully, baka yung ating public spending 2381 03:02:44,960 --> 03:02:47,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: will be able to catch up. 2382 03:02:48,180 --> 03:02:49,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sana itong third quarter, 2383 03:02:49,660 --> 03:02:51,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pero maka-aabot pa ng third and fourth, no? 2384 03:02:52,380 --> 03:02:53,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Third quarter siguro. 2385 03:02:54,220 --> 03:02:54,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Maka-aabot. 2386 03:02:55,100 --> 03:02:55,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hopefully. 2387 03:02:56,400 --> 03:02:56,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hopefully. 2388 03:02:57,040 --> 03:02:58,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's why yung sabi ko nga dito, Sec, 2389 03:02:59,300 --> 03:03:01,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: you have to strike a balance right now. 2390 03:03:01,660 --> 03:03:03,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Although, of course, we are for accountability 2391 03:03:03,740 --> 03:03:05,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dun sa mga nagkasala, 2392 03:03:06,040 --> 03:03:07,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the biggest scandal ever. 2393 03:03:08,660 --> 03:03:12,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But we need to accelerate the growth also 2394 03:03:12,180 --> 03:03:14,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: through increased public spending. 2395 03:03:16,140 --> 03:03:17,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We agree, Mr. Chair. 2396 03:03:18,960 --> 03:03:21,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'll just have a few questions, Secretary. 2397 03:03:22,020 --> 03:03:23,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just take note of the, ano na lang, no? 2398 03:03:23,960 --> 03:03:24,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung mga... 2399 03:03:25,100 --> 03:03:30,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung mga issues and concerns of the Senators 2400 03:03:30,920 --> 03:03:35,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: so that we can prepare for the plenary debates. 2401 03:03:35,900 --> 03:03:39,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Malamang baka matanong ulit or may follow-up. 2402 03:03:39,620 --> 03:03:41,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, sa mga agencies concerned, 2403 03:03:42,000 --> 03:03:43,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa mga USEC, ASSEC, 2404 03:03:43,400 --> 03:03:45,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: please prepare for those. 2405 03:03:47,040 --> 03:03:49,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Doon sa Regional Development Councils, 2406 03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:52,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ito po, amount of 164 million is appropriated 2407 03:03:52,580 --> 03:03:54,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to the Regional Development Councils 2408 03:03:54,120 --> 03:03:54,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the provision of support. 2409 03:03:55,100 --> 03:03:57,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Services to RDCs, 2410 03:03:57,600 --> 03:03:59,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: as well as monitoring and evaluation 2411 03:03:59,340 --> 03:04:03,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the implementation of plans, programs, policies, projects. 2412 03:04:04,300 --> 03:04:07,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Given the recent issues involving flood control projects, 2413 03:04:07,520 --> 03:04:11,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: how can DEP-DEV strengthen the role of Regional Development Councils 2414 03:04:11,860 --> 03:04:12,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in the planning process? 2415 03:04:13,580 --> 03:04:17,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Not only in identifying and prioritizing infrastructure projects, 2416 03:04:17,040 --> 03:04:21,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but also in ensuring that projects are implementation-ready, 2417 03:04:22,740 --> 03:04:24,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: monitoring of actual implementation, 2418 03:04:24,040 --> 03:04:27,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and what projects should continue to receive funding. 2419 03:04:29,500 --> 03:04:31,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2420 03:04:31,800 --> 03:04:38,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We appreciate the support given to the RDCs last year's budget. 2421 03:04:40,120 --> 03:04:45,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And we hope that we can get additional resources for the RDCs 2422 03:04:45,180 --> 03:04:52,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: because the RDCs are not DEP-DEV, Mr. Chair. 2423 03:04:53,120 --> 03:04:53,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We coordinate... 2424 03:04:54,040 --> 03:04:56,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We are the services secretariat to the RDCs, 2425 03:04:56,500 --> 03:05:03,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but what constrain the RDCs are the resources available 2426 03:05:03,480 --> 03:05:06,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for coordination, mobilization, 2427 03:05:07,740 --> 03:05:13,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and with more resources, 2428 03:05:13,540 --> 03:05:21,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we could improve the performance of our RDCs, 2429 03:05:22,020 --> 03:05:23,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: particularly in ensuring that... 2430 03:05:24,040 --> 03:05:31,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that there are enough implementation-ready projects 2431 03:05:31,500 --> 03:05:34,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: identified at the regional level, 2432 03:05:34,360 --> 03:05:39,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and these are also consistent with the priorities at the national level. 2433 03:05:40,260 --> 03:05:43,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And as you must have seen, 2434 03:05:43,520 --> 03:05:47,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the table of Senator Gatchel Jan, Your Honor, 2435 03:05:47,940 --> 03:05:53,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: where he showed that only about 40%, roughly, 2436 03:05:54,040 --> 03:05:55,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or even less, 2437 03:05:56,100 --> 03:05:59,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the high-priority projects of our RDCs 2438 03:05:59,620 --> 03:06:05,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are reflected in the NEP. 2439 03:06:06,520 --> 03:06:08,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And then when it comes out, 2440 03:06:08,560 --> 03:06:10,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: it could be even lower or higher, 2441 03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:12,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: depending on who inserted what. 2442 03:06:12,860 --> 03:06:17,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: But we need to do better than that, Your Honor. 2443 03:06:17,460 --> 03:06:21,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So there's now a coordination, 2444 03:06:21,820 --> 03:06:23,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a stronger coordination between DEP-DEV, 2445 03:06:24,040 --> 03:06:32,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and DBM to ensure that the RDC process gets more robust 2446 03:06:32,960 --> 03:06:36,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so that there is a higher proportion of those projects 2447 03:06:36,680 --> 03:06:40,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: represented in the NEP. 2448 03:06:44,660 --> 03:06:45,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. 2449 03:06:45,640 --> 03:06:48,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Still in connection with the Flag of Los Canales, 2450 03:06:48,100 --> 03:06:51,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: how can we strengthen the coordination between RDC and the DPWH 2451 03:06:51,220 --> 03:06:53,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: so that projects are properly... 2452 03:06:54,040 --> 03:06:55,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: revalidated, prioritized, 2453 03:06:55,740 --> 03:06:57,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and monitored before government funding is given? 2454 03:06:58,180 --> 03:06:58,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, 2455 03:06:59,240 --> 03:07:01,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro itong pag-requirement ng RDC, 2456 03:07:02,280 --> 03:07:04,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it's the same guy, 2457 03:07:05,000 --> 03:07:05,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but at the same time, 2458 03:07:05,720 --> 03:07:06,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro, Sec, 2459 03:07:06,300 --> 03:07:11,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: do you think that requiring RDC approval in projects now, 2460 03:07:11,620 --> 03:07:13,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at least magkaroon ng tamang direction 2461 03:07:13,880 --> 03:07:17,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and we'll spend money wisely, 2462 03:07:17,960 --> 03:07:18,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung funding wisely, 2463 03:07:18,920 --> 03:07:19,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na hindi na yung... 2464 03:07:20,700 --> 03:07:23,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: May iwasan na ba natin yung magkaka-project? 2465 03:07:24,040 --> 03:07:26,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Para lang pagkapirahan na... 2466 03:07:26,040 --> 03:07:27,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It happens, eh. 2467 03:07:27,920 --> 03:07:28,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sorry, ah. 2468 03:07:28,460 --> 03:07:29,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Parang nakikita ko, talaga, 2469 03:07:29,600 --> 03:07:32,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I go around and I notice that some... 2470 03:07:32,280 --> 03:07:34,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: There are some projects that are... 2471 03:07:34,120 --> 03:07:36,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sabi ko nga, hindi naman tayo mayamang bansa, 2472 03:07:36,300 --> 03:07:38,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sayang yung project. 2473 03:07:38,420 --> 03:07:40,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: May mga seawall na pagkalaki-laki, 2474 03:07:40,380 --> 03:07:41,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: billion yata, 2475 03:07:42,060 --> 03:07:44,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na wala namang pinuproteksyon ng community. 2476 03:07:44,920 --> 03:07:46,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, do you think, Secretary, 2477 03:07:46,260 --> 03:07:47,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ito pong... 2478 03:07:47,560 --> 03:07:49,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: By requiring RDC approval, 2479 03:07:50,540 --> 03:07:52,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because we're requiring them right now, 2480 03:07:52,740 --> 03:07:56,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, by requiring RDC approval, 2481 03:07:56,580 --> 03:08:01,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will prevent scandals 2482 03:08:01,020 --> 03:08:02,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or itong mga projects 2483 03:08:02,940 --> 03:08:05,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that are not really needed 2484 03:08:05,100 --> 03:08:07,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and yung scams and corruption. 2485 03:08:08,360 --> 03:08:08,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yeah. 2486 03:08:09,020 --> 03:08:10,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2487 03:08:10,800 --> 03:08:15,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We are undertaking a number of initiatives 2488 03:08:15,500 --> 03:08:18,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to improve the quality 2489 03:08:18,960 --> 03:08:22,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of our infrastructure projects. 2490 03:08:22,740 --> 03:08:32,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: One is this greater monitoring efforts 2491 03:08:32,580 --> 03:08:34,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of our, not just DEPDEV, 2492 03:08:34,660 --> 03:08:37,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but by other agencies as well. 2493 03:08:37,520 --> 03:08:39,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And with the proper use of technology, 2494 03:08:40,040 --> 03:08:44,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we can enhance that monitoring. 2495 03:08:44,280 --> 03:08:45,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, we are working with, 2496 03:08:46,180 --> 03:08:47,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: again, with DBM 2497 03:08:47,600 --> 03:08:51,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and our infrastructure agencies 2498 03:08:51,460 --> 03:08:52,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: toward coming up with a... 2499 03:08:52,580 --> 03:08:54,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a monitoring system. 2500 03:08:55,340 --> 03:08:57,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: My undersecretary here, 2501 03:08:57,140 --> 03:08:57,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Kapono, 2502 03:08:57,620 --> 03:08:59,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is leading that effort. 2503 03:09:01,100 --> 03:09:02,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The other one is, 2504 03:09:02,740 --> 03:09:04,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: as I mentioned earlier, 2505 03:09:05,260 --> 03:09:05,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, 2506 03:09:05,980 --> 03:09:09,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is that we do require now 2507 03:09:09,060 --> 03:09:11,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that infrastructure projects 2508 03:09:11,740 --> 03:09:12,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: like flood control 2509 03:09:12,820 --> 03:09:17,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: have to be based on master plans 2510 03:09:17,580 --> 03:09:19,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and confirmed 2511 03:09:19,720 --> 03:09:22,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and approved 2512 03:09:22,160 --> 03:09:22,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: by the government. 2513 03:09:22,420 --> 03:09:22,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, we are working with 2514 03:09:22,580 --> 03:09:23,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: master plans. 2515 03:09:24,620 --> 03:09:27,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And that's what we will need 2516 03:09:27,180 --> 03:09:30,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to monitor closely. 2517 03:09:31,920 --> 03:09:35,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The third initiative is, 2518 03:09:36,340 --> 03:09:37,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, 2519 03:09:38,460 --> 03:09:41,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is for, 2520 03:09:41,800 --> 03:09:43,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is this effort of DBM 2521 03:09:43,600 --> 03:09:46,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and DEPDEV 2522 03:09:46,660 --> 03:09:51,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to have a common platform 2523 03:09:51,300 --> 03:09:52,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for monitoring 2524 03:09:52,580 --> 03:09:53,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the infrastructure? 2525 03:09:54,380 --> 03:09:55,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: At the moment kasi ho, 2526 03:09:55,980 --> 03:09:58,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: dalawang sistema yan, 2527 03:09:58,320 --> 03:10:01,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: may si DBM may system siya, 2528 03:10:02,260 --> 03:10:04,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: si DEPDEV may system siya, 2529 03:10:05,140 --> 03:10:06,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: kung minsan hindi nag-uusap yung 2530 03:10:06,880 --> 03:10:08,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: dalawang system, 2531 03:10:08,640 --> 03:10:10,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so yung what was planned 2532 03:10:10,280 --> 03:10:12,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: was not budgeted. 2533 03:10:13,780 --> 03:10:15,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, our efforts now 2534 03:10:15,640 --> 03:10:17,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is to just want to have, 2535 03:10:18,000 --> 03:10:20,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to adopt one system 2536 03:10:20,080 --> 03:10:21,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so that 2537 03:10:21,260 --> 03:10:21,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we can have a system 2538 03:10:21,420 --> 03:10:22,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that is a 2539 03:10:22,860 --> 03:10:22,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: projects 2540 03:10:22,980 --> 03:10:25,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: who'd have to come 2541 03:10:25,240 --> 03:10:28,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from the public investment program 2542 03:10:28,020 --> 03:10:30,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and that public investment programs 2543 03:10:30,180 --> 03:10:30,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are the 2544 03:10:30,800 --> 03:10:31,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are the 2545 03:10:31,600 --> 03:10:33,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: programs, projects, 2546 03:10:33,640 --> 03:10:34,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and activities 2547 03:10:34,860 --> 03:10:35,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that are 2548 03:10:36,560 --> 03:10:38,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that are 2549 03:10:39,420 --> 03:10:41,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: supportive 2550 03:10:41,360 --> 03:10:42,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the 2551 03:10:42,380 --> 03:10:43,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Philippine Development Plan 2552 03:10:43,960 --> 03:10:45,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are considered priorities 2553 03:10:45,880 --> 03:10:47,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for the 2554 03:10:47,100 --> 03:10:47,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: PDP. 2555 03:10:48,520 --> 03:10:50,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, dapat doon ng kagaling ho 2556 03:10:50,160 --> 03:10:50,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: yung 2557 03:10:50,540 --> 03:10:50,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: yung 2558 03:10:51,420 --> 03:10:53,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: project, hindi sa kung saan-saan 2559 03:10:53,440 --> 03:10:54,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: nalang pinupulot at 2560 03:10:54,580 --> 03:10:57,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: pinapapunduhan. 2561 03:10:58,160 --> 03:10:59,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, hopefully, 2562 03:10:59,480 --> 03:11:00,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we'll get the system running. 2563 03:11:01,360 --> 03:11:03,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Sad to say, but maraming nasayang na 2564 03:11:03,340 --> 03:11:04,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pera doon sa mga 2565 03:11:04,800 --> 03:11:07,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: projects na 2566 03:11:07,580 --> 03:11:09,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: walang convergence, 2567 03:11:09,540 --> 03:11:11,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na talagang walang 2568 03:11:11,140 --> 03:11:12,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: RDC, wala sa master plan. 2569 03:11:13,680 --> 03:11:14,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I think 2570 03:11:14,620 --> 03:11:17,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Secretary Kim of DVM 2571 03:11:17,620 --> 03:11:19,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: has expressed 2572 03:11:19,400 --> 03:11:21,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a strong commitment to this initiative 2573 03:11:21,300 --> 03:11:23,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and we hope that that's something that 2574 03:11:23,440 --> 03:11:25,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we can leave, that 2575 03:11:25,380 --> 03:11:27,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: this administration can leave for 2576 03:11:27,120 --> 03:11:28,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the next administration, that we have 2577 03:11:28,920 --> 03:11:29,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a 2578 03:11:29,920 --> 03:11:32,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: institutionalized 2579 03:11:32,220 --> 03:11:34,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: way of 2580 03:11:34,400 --> 03:11:37,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: planning and budgeting 2581 03:11:37,140 --> 03:11:39,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: projects 2582 03:11:39,040 --> 03:11:40,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in ways that 2583 03:11:40,100 --> 03:11:43,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: are useful 2584 03:11:43,060 --> 03:11:43,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for 2585 03:11:43,680 --> 03:11:45,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the people. 2586 03:11:47,020 --> 03:11:48,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I said, last thing, 2587 03:11:48,840 --> 03:11:50,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think we met 2588 03:11:50,120 --> 03:11:51,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung NIA 2589 03:11:51,440 --> 03:11:53,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: budget hearings. 2590 03:11:54,340 --> 03:11:56,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, they're requesting 2591 03:11:56,000 --> 03:11:58,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for quite a big 2592 03:11:58,220 --> 03:12:00,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: amount, but sabi ko nga, 2593 03:12:00,780 --> 03:12:02,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro it's about time that 2594 03:12:02,180 --> 03:12:04,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we look at the long term, na hindi 2595 03:12:04,160 --> 03:12:05,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lang yung patsipatsi 2596 03:12:05,820 --> 03:12:07,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: project, yung small 2597 03:12:07,960 --> 03:12:10,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: projects. Ang kailangan natin, 2598 03:12:10,420 --> 03:12:12,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think, aside from 2599 03:12:12,320 --> 03:12:14,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: working on how we will have 2600 03:12:14,280 --> 03:12:16,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the irrigation canals 2601 03:12:16,140 --> 03:12:18,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and all of this, kailangan 2602 03:12:18,180 --> 03:12:18,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: may mga water 2603 03:12:18,840 --> 03:12:20,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: retention facilities na rin, 2604 03:12:20,540 --> 03:12:22,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: water detention or water retention, 2605 03:12:23,080 --> 03:12:25,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na from sa taas pa lang, 2606 03:12:25,380 --> 03:12:26,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: upstream, may mga 2607 03:12:26,840 --> 03:12:27,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: small dams na, 2608 03:12:28,160 --> 03:12:30,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: cascading, para 2609 03:12:30,960 --> 03:12:32,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pagdating dito sa baba, 2610 03:12:33,340 --> 03:12:35,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mabagal na, tsaka na-control mo na, 2611 03:12:35,300 --> 03:12:36,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and at the same time, during the 2612 03:12:36,880 --> 03:12:39,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: rainy season, we have so much 2613 03:12:39,220 --> 03:12:40,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: rain, sobra-sobra, 2614 03:12:40,880 --> 03:12:42,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: baha tayo. Pag dry season, 2615 03:12:43,020 --> 03:12:44,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tuyong-tuyo naman, diba? 2616 03:12:45,360 --> 03:12:46,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Wala tayong retention, 2617 03:12:46,540 --> 03:12:48,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: diba? So, I think, 2618 03:12:48,840 --> 03:12:50,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dapat ito yung mga pagtulong, 2619 03:12:50,700 --> 03:12:52,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: could help with NIA, 2620 03:12:53,380 --> 03:12:54,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: aside from the 2621 03:12:54,800 --> 03:12:56,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: irrigation projects, 2622 03:12:56,720 --> 03:12:58,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung usual canals, yung mga 2623 03:12:58,940 --> 03:13:00,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: daanan, I think yung 2624 03:13:00,780 --> 03:13:02,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: water impounding, retention 2625 03:13:02,440 --> 03:13:04,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: facilities should be 2626 03:13:04,520 --> 03:13:05,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: already 2627 03:13:05,980 --> 03:13:08,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: be implemented, no? 2628 03:13:09,000 --> 03:13:10,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang nangyayari sa ngayon, ang nangyayari 2629 03:13:10,860 --> 03:13:12,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: itong past few years, dahil 2630 03:13:12,980 --> 03:13:14,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nausit ang flood control, 2631 03:13:15,240 --> 03:13:16,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: river, ano, yung mga 2632 03:13:16,540 --> 03:13:18,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: revetment, slow protection, 2633 03:13:18,840 --> 03:13:21,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sinimento na lahat 2634 03:13:21,120 --> 03:13:21,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng 2635 03:13:21,380 --> 03:13:23,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sinimento na lahat ng 2636 03:13:23,920 --> 03:13:27,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng ilog, daanan, 2637 03:13:27,680 --> 03:13:29,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: bumilis yung takbo ng tubig, 2638 03:13:30,360 --> 03:13:31,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hindi na natin 2639 03:13:31,080 --> 03:13:33,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na re-retain, hindi na natin nasa sala 2640 03:13:33,080 --> 03:13:34,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dito, bumilis pa yung takbo, kaya na 2641 03:13:34,640 --> 03:13:36,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kaya na babaha ka agad dito. 2642 03:13:37,800 --> 03:13:38,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Probably, Deb can 2643 03:13:38,900 --> 03:13:41,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: coordinate with NIA. 2644 03:13:41,920 --> 03:13:42,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yun ang ano ko eh, 2645 03:13:42,900 --> 03:13:43,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: what I 2646 03:13:43,380 --> 03:13:43,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I 2647 03:13:43,820 --> 03:13:43,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I 2648 03:13:43,980 --> 03:13:47,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: , ah, I, ah, 2649 03:13:47,520 --> 03:13:49,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: told NIA that we will support, no? 2650 03:13:49,400 --> 03:13:51,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yun dapat mara na silang water retention and 2651 03:13:51,300 --> 03:13:53,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: retention facilities, aside 2652 03:13:53,340 --> 03:13:55,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: from the usual irrigation, no? 2653 03:13:55,400 --> 03:13:57,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Para, at least two birds with 2654 03:13:57,340 --> 03:13:59,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: one stone, we prevent flood, 2655 03:13:59,760 --> 03:14:01,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: flood, we mitigate flood, 2656 03:14:02,100 --> 03:14:03,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para na control natin 2657 03:14:03,600 --> 03:14:04,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung speed, yung velocity. 2658 03:14:05,380 --> 03:14:07,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At the same time, we retain water pag 2659 03:14:07,200 --> 03:14:09,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dry season, lalo na may 2660 03:14:09,100 --> 03:14:10,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: elenyo pa tayo ngayon, no? 2661 03:14:11,360 --> 03:14:13,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At least pag dry season, meron tayong tubig, 2662 03:14:13,420 --> 03:14:15,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: diba? So, Sek, 2663 03:14:15,240 --> 03:14:16,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: anong tingin nyo doon? 2664 03:14:17,120 --> 03:14:18,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: You are correct, 2665 03:14:19,020 --> 03:14:21,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair. We should 2666 03:14:21,340 --> 03:14:23,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: have done this long time ago. I 2667 03:14:23,060 --> 03:14:25,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: remember when I was 2668 03:14:25,400 --> 03:14:27,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: still much younger, and I 2669 03:14:27,060 --> 03:14:29,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: used to go to, my 2670 03:14:29,100 --> 03:14:31,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Chinese friends brought 2671 03:14:31,440 --> 03:14:33,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: me around. They have 2672 03:14:33,440 --> 03:14:34,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a lot of those 2673 03:14:34,320 --> 03:14:37,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: cascading, cascading 2674 03:14:37,360 --> 03:14:39,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang nangyari, Sec 2675 03:14:39,580 --> 03:14:41,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sinemento, revetment, lahat 2676 03:14:41,200 --> 03:14:43,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng tulay na, lahat ng 2677 03:14:43,180 --> 03:14:44,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ilog natin, bumilis yung tubig. 2678 03:14:44,900 --> 03:14:47,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And even Vietnam, I mean, so there are 2679 03:14:47,260 --> 03:14:49,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: many places where you can 2680 03:14:49,180 --> 03:14:50,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: see that it works. 2681 03:14:51,280 --> 03:14:53,140 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And I hope that this 2682 03:14:53,140 --> 03:14:54,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: will form part of 2683 03:14:54,580 --> 03:14:57,060 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the long-term infrastructure 2684 03:14:57,060 --> 03:14:58,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: roadmap. 2685 03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:01,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, that 2686 03:15:01,360 --> 03:15:03,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: when we plan for this 2687 03:15:03,560 --> 03:15:05,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: system, these are long-term 2688 03:15:05,900 --> 03:15:07,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so that we need to 2689 03:15:07,760 --> 03:15:11,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But even if it's long-term, I guess 2690 03:15:11,860 --> 03:15:13,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Secretary, we have to start already. 2691 03:15:13,700 --> 03:15:15,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang nangyari, as you mentioned, this should 2692 03:15:15,900 --> 03:15:17,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: have been started years ago pero 2693 03:15:17,420 --> 03:15:19,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ngayon, ang iniisip pa rin 2694 03:15:19,200 --> 03:15:21,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng flood mitigation, flood control 2695 03:15:21,700 --> 03:15:23,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kung paano mawala yung tubig 2696 03:15:23,860 --> 03:15:25,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hindi paano lang ma-retain 2697 03:15:25,560 --> 03:15:26,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at mapabagal. So, 2698 03:15:27,560 --> 03:15:29,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think we really have to look 2699 03:15:29,060 --> 03:15:31,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at long-term now and look at 2700 03:15:31,080 --> 03:15:33,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: treat water, treat flood 2701 03:15:33,160 --> 03:15:34,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: treat water, not as 2702 03:15:34,860 --> 03:15:37,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: na hindi ito 2703 03:15:37,000 --> 03:15:39,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: permission, dapat ito resource, diba? 2704 03:15:39,280 --> 03:15:40,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Parang ganun dapat ang 2705 03:15:40,240 --> 03:15:42,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: baguhin siguro yung 2706 03:15:42,740 --> 03:15:43,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ano natin, yung 2707 03:15:43,720 --> 03:15:46,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: concept at perception. 2708 03:15:48,480 --> 03:15:51,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: The President, Mr. Chair, has actually a directive 2709 03:15:51,120 --> 03:15:51,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to 2710 03:15:51,880 --> 03:15:54,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: DEF-DEF and infrastructure 2711 03:15:54,640 --> 03:15:55,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: agencies to 2712 03:15:55,980 --> 03:15:58,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: dapat may 2713 03:15:58,580 --> 03:15:59,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: convergence 2714 03:15:59,040 --> 03:16:02,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: at come up with 2715 03:16:02,400 --> 03:16:03,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a 2716 03:16:03,520 --> 03:16:06,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: clear 2717 03:16:06,000 --> 03:16:08,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: master plan for 2718 03:16:08,940 --> 03:16:10,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: flood control 2719 03:16:10,660 --> 03:16:13,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and one that 2720 03:16:13,100 --> 03:16:13,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is also 2721 03:16:13,980 --> 03:16:17,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: where the funding is also 2722 03:16:17,080 --> 03:16:20,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: identified or clear. So, 2723 03:16:20,780 --> 03:16:22,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we have this ongoing effort 2724 03:16:22,620 --> 03:16:24,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair 2725 03:16:24,820 --> 03:16:25,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to 2726 03:16:25,660 --> 03:16:27,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to 2727 03:16:27,700 --> 03:16:28,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to 2728 03:16:29,040 --> 03:16:32,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: come up with even just the 2729 03:16:32,400 --> 03:16:35,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: construction of initial cisterns 2730 03:16:35,900 --> 03:16:37,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for Metro Manila. 2731 03:16:37,600 --> 03:16:40,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We are 2732 03:16:40,080 --> 03:16:45,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: what is that? MMDA is a request for a budget, no? 2733 03:16:45,280 --> 03:16:55,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yeah, anyway, we'll have that as part of our long-term 2734 03:16:55,280 --> 03:16:58,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, I'm glad to hear that. We really have to do it. 2735 03:16:58,880 --> 03:17:03,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We should have done this yesterday. So, gawin na natin, diba? 2736 03:17:03,820 --> 03:17:06,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, thank you, Secretary, it's nice to hear from you, no? 2737 03:17:06,960 --> 03:17:10,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: From you, yung mga kailangan natin talaga meron tayong master plan. 2738 03:17:10,780 --> 03:17:27,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You know that I filed the MIND Act bill, one of my party bills, this Congress, precisely because of our country, cannot afford to restart or abandon major infrastructure roadmaps every six years whenever a new administration takes over. 2739 03:17:27,320 --> 03:17:43,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Presidents may come and go, no? Kailangan na big-ticket items should transcend presidencies, legacies may differ, but priorities may change, but the infrastructure that builds our nation must outlast any administration. 2740 03:17:43,960 --> 03:17:56,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, considering DepDEP's mandate, would DepDEP support the MIND Act and its objective of institutionalizing a long-term National Infrastructure Master Plan that will transcend changes in administration? 2741 03:17:56,460 --> 03:17:57,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Yes, sir. 2742 03:17:57,160 --> 03:18:36,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Definitely, Mr. Chair. In fact, the new charter, the charter of DepDEP, which you yourself co-authored, Mr. Chair, has that provision that DepDEP has to be the custodian of the long-term Master Plans. Particularly for infrastructure. And we hope that the bill will strengthen that function. 2743 03:18:36,000 --> 03:18:57,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We definitely make sure that DEPDev will be the primary agency tasked to implement the master plan. Kayo kasi, kayo yung study, kayo naman ang may expertise dito. And I think that will be the blueprint that will set the direction in the future. 2744 03:18:57,160 --> 03:19:12,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The next 50 to 100 years dapat ang tingin natin, Sec, hindi na yung six-year term, which is siguro yun ang naging problema natin because of the political system, yung mga presidente, administration, who are looking at the short and medium term. 2745 03:19:13,800 --> 03:19:21,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, I think it's DepDEP who has that vision, supposedly, na talagang long-term na tayo ang ating vision. 2746 03:19:21,720 --> 03:19:21,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay. 2747 03:19:27,160 --> 03:19:50,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Under the proposed MIND Act, infrastructure must be built as a connected ecosystem, not as standalone impulse projects. Ang problema natin, patsi-patsi ang mga proyekto at walang isang long-term master plan. Our agencies still tend to plan and implement projects separately. So paano natin sinisiguro ng DEPDev na magkakaugnay, magkabatay na sa isang national master plan ang mga infrastructure projects ng DPWH, DOTr, DA, LGUs at iba pang ahensya? 2748 03:19:50,700 --> 03:19:55,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, what can we do to make sure that they will now be based on a Master Plan? 2749 03:19:55,900 --> 03:19:58,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: based on master plan in the future? 2750 03:19:58,800 --> 03:19:59,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sek, anong tingin nyo? 2751 03:20:01,740 --> 03:20:04,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: I think the institutional 2752 03:20:04,080 --> 03:20:09,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: arrangements, 2753 03:20:10,080 --> 03:20:11,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, in their bill 2754 03:20:11,980 --> 03:20:13,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: would have to ensure 2755 03:20:13,940 --> 03:20:15,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that indeed 2756 03:20:15,080 --> 03:20:16,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: when 2757 03:20:16,980 --> 03:20:22,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: there's a change in administration, 2758 03:20:22,200 --> 03:20:23,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: there's a smooth 2759 03:20:23,460 --> 03:20:25,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: transition 2760 03:20:25,820 --> 03:20:28,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: so that the new administration 2761 03:20:28,080 --> 03:20:30,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: becomes aware 2762 03:20:30,660 --> 03:20:32,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and 2763 03:20:32,660 --> 03:20:36,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: start 2764 03:20:36,260 --> 03:20:37,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from what was 2765 03:20:37,080 --> 03:20:40,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from where 2766 03:20:40,220 --> 03:20:41,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: its predecessor 2767 03:20:41,360 --> 03:20:42,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: stops. 2768 03:20:43,500 --> 03:20:44,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Usually kasi ang nangyayari, 2769 03:20:45,320 --> 03:20:46,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: just like 2770 03:20:46,380 --> 03:20:48,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: what you 2771 03:20:48,100 --> 03:20:50,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: expressed, 2772 03:20:50,440 --> 03:20:52,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, is that 2773 03:20:52,220 --> 03:20:54,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: hindi lang administration 2774 03:20:54,520 --> 03:20:55,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: even with a change 2775 03:20:55,740 --> 03:20:57,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: in the Secretary 2776 03:20:57,940 --> 03:20:59,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of the Implementing Agency, 2777 03:21:00,640 --> 03:21:01,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: kung ayaw niya yung 2778 03:21:01,740 --> 03:21:02,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: current plan, 2779 03:21:02,780 --> 03:21:05,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: magbago siya ng 2780 03:21:05,260 --> 03:21:08,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: sarili niyang 2781 03:21:08,180 --> 03:21:10,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: plano. 2782 03:21:11,940 --> 03:21:13,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Kaya doon nagkagulo-gulo yung 2783 03:21:13,680 --> 03:21:15,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: alignment of infrastructure, 2784 03:21:15,740 --> 03:21:18,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for example, hindi nagtugtong-tugtong 2785 03:21:18,320 --> 03:21:18,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: yung mga 2786 03:21:18,980 --> 03:21:20,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: LRT, 2787 03:21:20,840 --> 03:21:21,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 2788 03:21:21,380 --> 03:21:24,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: expressway, 2789 03:21:24,420 --> 03:21:25,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the, I'm talking, 2790 03:21:25,740 --> 03:21:27,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: even the subway 2791 03:21:27,720 --> 03:21:28,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and the expressway, 2792 03:21:29,180 --> 03:21:33,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: they do not strengthen 2793 03:21:33,240 --> 03:21:33,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: its other. 2794 03:21:35,200 --> 03:21:36,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, what 2795 03:21:36,420 --> 03:21:39,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we hope to happen, 2796 03:21:40,600 --> 03:21:42,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, 2797 03:21:42,400 --> 03:21:42,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is that 2798 03:21:42,680 --> 03:21:44,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: when a secretary 2799 03:21:44,440 --> 03:21:47,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: changes or departs 2800 03:21:47,180 --> 03:21:48,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from the plan, 2801 03:21:48,980 --> 03:21:49,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from the master plan, 2802 03:21:49,900 --> 03:21:50,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: he has to 2803 03:21:50,980 --> 03:21:52,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: go to the 2804 03:21:52,880 --> 03:21:54,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Economic Development Council, 2805 03:21:55,020 --> 03:21:55,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: which is chaired by the Secretary of the Implementing Agency, 2806 03:21:55,740 --> 03:21:56,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: which is chaired by the President, 2807 03:21:56,740 --> 03:21:59,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for approval 2808 03:21:59,480 --> 03:22:02,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for such a change. 2809 03:22:02,320 --> 03:22:02,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: To change or deviate. 2810 03:22:03,040 --> 03:22:04,300 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Or to deviate, yes. 2811 03:22:04,960 --> 03:22:06,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And not just 2812 03:22:06,040 --> 03:22:09,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: decide on its own. 2813 03:22:09,640 --> 03:22:10,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Ganun ang nangyayari sa mga noho. 2814 03:22:11,160 --> 03:22:12,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: May alam na ng isang department 2815 03:22:12,840 --> 03:22:15,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: na may dadaan na LRT doon. 2816 03:22:15,300 --> 03:22:16,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Elinagyan ng flyover 2817 03:22:16,940 --> 03:22:18,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: ng another agency. 2818 03:22:18,460 --> 03:22:19,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Nasira na yung 2819 03:22:19,720 --> 03:22:22,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: alignment that the infrastructure 2820 03:22:22,920 --> 03:22:25,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: becomes far more expensive 2821 03:22:25,100 --> 03:22:25,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to complete. 2822 03:22:25,740 --> 03:22:27,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And then, na-delay. 2823 03:22:28,260 --> 03:22:28,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: That's the worst. 2824 03:22:30,320 --> 03:22:31,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, I think 2825 03:22:31,940 --> 03:22:33,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a simple institutional 2826 03:22:33,240 --> 03:22:35,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: improvement as that could help 2827 03:22:35,960 --> 03:22:38,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: improve the 2828 03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:39,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: continuity of 2829 03:22:39,420 --> 03:22:41,980 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: infrastructure programs. 2830 03:22:43,460 --> 03:22:44,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. 2831 03:22:44,600 --> 03:22:45,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sek, meron lang akong ano, no? 2832 03:22:46,100 --> 03:22:47,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Of course, yung 2833 03:22:47,140 --> 03:22:49,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Northside Commuter Railway 2834 03:22:49,760 --> 03:22:52,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and the Metro Medina Subway System, 2835 03:22:52,240 --> 03:22:53,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the main 2836 03:22:54,280 --> 03:22:55,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: railway projects 2837 03:22:55,360 --> 03:22:55,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or 2838 03:22:55,740 --> 03:22:56,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: one of the major 2839 03:22:56,940 --> 03:22:58,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: infrastructure programs 2840 03:22:58,820 --> 03:23:00,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of government now 2841 03:23:00,320 --> 03:23:01,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is Full Blast, no? 2842 03:23:02,420 --> 03:23:04,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi bubuhay na itong 2843 03:23:04,060 --> 03:23:04,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Central Luzon, 2844 03:23:04,780 --> 03:23:05,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Southern Tagalog Area. 2845 03:23:06,820 --> 03:23:07,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And of course, 2846 03:23:07,460 --> 03:23:08,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Metro Manila, no? 2847 03:23:08,380 --> 03:23:10,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I always view 2848 03:23:10,420 --> 03:23:11,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: these railways 2849 03:23:12,200 --> 03:23:13,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: as not only 2850 03:23:13,040 --> 03:23:13,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for convenience 2851 03:23:13,860 --> 03:23:16,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but it stimulates 2852 03:23:17,160 --> 03:23:17,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: economic growth 2853 03:23:17,820 --> 03:23:18,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and it spreads out 2854 03:23:18,780 --> 03:23:19,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the development. 2855 03:23:21,320 --> 03:23:22,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang ano ko lang dito, 2856 03:23:22,620 --> 03:23:22,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sek, 2857 03:23:22,880 --> 03:23:23,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nangihinayang po ako 2858 03:23:23,960 --> 03:23:25,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi yung pungminda 2859 03:23:25,660 --> 03:23:26,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng railway system, no? 2860 03:23:28,860 --> 03:23:30,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And the South Long Haul 2861 03:23:30,080 --> 03:23:33,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: which was supposed to be started 2862 03:23:33,300 --> 03:23:35,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: during the last administration, 2863 03:23:35,700 --> 03:23:36,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: unfortunately, 2864 03:23:36,520 --> 03:23:37,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because of 2865 03:23:37,120 --> 03:23:38,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: factors, 2866 03:23:39,860 --> 03:23:40,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hindi, 2867 03:23:40,600 --> 03:23:42,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: this remains suspended, no? 2868 03:23:42,440 --> 03:23:43,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi China ito, 2869 03:23:43,500 --> 03:23:44,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hindi na tuloy. 2870 03:23:44,760 --> 03:23:46,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung NSCR and 2871 03:23:46,880 --> 03:23:49,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Metro Medina Subway Project 2872 03:23:49,380 --> 03:23:50,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: are both Japan, 2873 03:23:50,540 --> 03:23:50,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: JICA, 2874 03:23:51,080 --> 03:23:51,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and ADB. 2875 03:23:52,620 --> 03:23:54,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: However, yung South Long Haul 2876 03:23:54,040 --> 03:23:55,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and Mindanao Railway, 2877 03:23:55,660 --> 03:23:58,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: China Eximbank yata ito, no? 2878 03:23:58,420 --> 03:24:00,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Na hindi na natuloy. 2879 03:24:00,520 --> 03:24:01,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, ang tanong ko lang, 2880 03:24:02,080 --> 03:24:02,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: are there efforts 2881 03:24:02,800 --> 03:24:03,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: by the DEF-DEF 2882 03:24:03,700 --> 03:24:06,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to push 2883 03:24:06,900 --> 03:24:08,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or to help also 2884 03:24:08,900 --> 03:24:10,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: look for potential 2885 03:24:10,360 --> 03:24:11,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: takers, funders, 2886 03:24:12,580 --> 03:24:13,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and proponents 2887 03:24:13,800 --> 03:24:15,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or implementers 2888 03:24:15,460 --> 03:24:16,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the project? 2889 03:24:16,240 --> 03:24:17,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Of course, there are. 2890 03:24:18,100 --> 03:24:20,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And we strongly support 2891 03:24:20,420 --> 03:24:22,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the efforts 2892 03:24:22,100 --> 03:24:23,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to improve 2893 03:24:25,660 --> 03:24:26,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the infrastructure, 2894 03:24:26,880 --> 03:24:27,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: access to infrastructure, 2895 03:24:28,700 --> 03:24:31,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: particularly efficient infrastructure 2896 03:24:31,180 --> 03:24:32,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: system. 2897 03:24:33,580 --> 03:24:34,480 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Sir Chair, 2898 03:24:36,080 --> 03:24:37,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: my understanding is that 2899 03:24:37,880 --> 03:24:38,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: we are, 2900 03:24:40,380 --> 03:24:42,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: through the Department of Finance, 2901 03:24:43,320 --> 03:24:43,860 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: still 2902 03:24:43,860 --> 03:24:46,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: open to 2903 03:24:46,780 --> 03:24:48,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and in fact facilitating 2904 03:24:48,380 --> 03:24:50,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for the entry of other 2905 03:24:50,920 --> 03:24:52,880 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: potential 2906 03:24:52,880 --> 03:24:54,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: players. 2907 03:24:59,920 --> 03:25:00,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for example, 2908 03:25:00,680 --> 03:25:00,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: this 2909 03:25:00,740 --> 03:25:04,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: there is a discussion 2910 03:25:04,340 --> 03:25:05,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: with Spain 2911 03:25:05,800 --> 03:25:06,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and France 2912 03:25:06,720 --> 03:25:08,220 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: regarding the 2913 03:25:08,220 --> 03:25:09,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: financing of this 2914 03:25:09,840 --> 03:25:12,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: South Luzon 2915 03:25:12,960 --> 03:25:13,840 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Longhaul 2916 03:25:13,840 --> 03:25:14,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: South Longhaul 2917 03:25:14,800 --> 03:25:16,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and 2918 03:25:16,020 --> 03:25:18,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 2919 03:25:18,960 --> 03:25:21,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the key there 2920 03:25:21,100 --> 03:25:21,800 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair 2921 03:25:21,800 --> 03:25:22,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is that 2922 03:25:22,280 --> 03:25:24,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: because 2923 03:25:24,120 --> 03:25:24,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 2924 03:25:24,640 --> 03:25:25,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 2925 03:25:25,120 --> 03:25:25,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 2926 03:25:25,200 --> 03:25:25,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 2927 03:25:25,660 --> 03:25:27,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: earlier consultant that 2928 03:25:27,280 --> 03:25:29,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: was tasked to prepare the feasibility 2929 03:25:29,500 --> 03:25:31,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: study was 2930 03:25:31,420 --> 03:25:32,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: by China. 2931 03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:35,180 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: And of course, 2932 03:25:35,460 --> 03:25:37,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: if other parties 2933 03:25:37,420 --> 03:25:38,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: would now 2934 03:25:38,460 --> 03:25:39,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: come, 2935 03:25:40,400 --> 03:25:43,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the technology could be 2936 03:25:43,400 --> 03:25:45,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: different. So if it's Spain or 2937 03:25:45,360 --> 03:25:47,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: France, they 2938 03:25:47,360 --> 03:25:48,740 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: may prefer their own 2939 03:25:48,740 --> 03:25:51,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: technology. So that the 2940 03:25:51,280 --> 03:25:53,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: preparation, we would 2941 03:25:53,360 --> 03:25:54,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: have to start essentially 2942 03:25:54,460 --> 03:25:56,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: almost like a start. 2943 03:25:56,780 --> 03:25:59,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Preferably rito, yung manufacturer 2944 03:25:59,480 --> 03:26:00,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or may expertise. 2945 03:26:01,240 --> 03:26:02,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just like Japan. 2946 03:26:03,240 --> 03:26:05,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think when we, just to 2947 03:26:05,300 --> 03:26:05,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: give you 2948 03:26:05,760 --> 03:26:08,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: information, we were 2949 03:26:08,440 --> 03:26:10,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in Spain a few years 2950 03:26:10,820 --> 03:26:13,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ago with Senate President 2951 03:26:13,080 --> 03:26:15,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Manosimig Zubiri, kasama rin si SP 2952 03:26:15,100 --> 03:26:17,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Wynn that time, for 2953 03:26:17,140 --> 03:26:18,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a parliamentary visit. And we had 2954 03:26:18,920 --> 03:26:20,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a chance to have 2955 03:26:20,560 --> 03:26:23,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a courtesy call with the king 2956 03:26:23,040 --> 03:26:23,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: himself. 2957 03:26:24,460 --> 03:26:25,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And they are very much 2958 03:26:25,500 --> 03:26:26,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: interested to 2959 03:26:26,580 --> 03:26:29,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: go back and invest in the Philippines 2960 03:26:29,340 --> 03:26:31,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because meron silang sentimental 2961 03:26:31,560 --> 03:26:33,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: value kasi dati tayong 2962 03:26:33,440 --> 03:26:35,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: colony. So they would want to go 2963 03:26:35,500 --> 03:26:36,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: back. So magandang 2964 03:26:36,340 --> 03:26:39,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ma-explore natin yung 2965 03:26:39,260 --> 03:26:41,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Spain. Kasi meron tayong roots. 2966 03:26:41,240 --> 03:26:42,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And at the same time, they are, I think, 2967 03:26:42,660 --> 03:26:45,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: they have a manufacturing for 2968 03:26:45,260 --> 03:26:47,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: locomotives. Yung CAF, I think, is 2969 03:26:47,000 --> 03:26:48,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Spaniard. Yung CAF is 2970 03:26:48,900 --> 03:26:50,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: one of the popular brands 2971 03:26:50,800 --> 03:26:51,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for 2972 03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:54,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: railway. 2973 03:26:54,460 --> 03:26:56,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mga engines, 2974 03:26:56,220 --> 03:26:57,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ma-locomotives. 2975 03:26:58,180 --> 03:26:59,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yun, Sek. 2976 03:26:59,200 --> 03:27:01,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: For info lang. I think 2977 03:27:01,040 --> 03:27:02,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Spain was really interested 2978 03:27:02,920 --> 03:27:05,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: also in considering 2979 03:27:05,120 --> 03:27:06,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: going back to the Philippines. 2980 03:27:07,380 --> 03:27:09,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: We are exploring 2981 03:27:09,380 --> 03:27:10,760 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: all other possibilities. 2982 03:27:11,480 --> 03:27:11,900 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: In fact, 2983 03:27:12,740 --> 03:27:15,040 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the recent visit of 2984 03:27:15,040 --> 03:27:17,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the President to India, 2985 03:27:17,460 --> 03:27:19,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: that this 2986 03:27:19,200 --> 03:27:21,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: issue about 2987 03:27:21,120 --> 03:27:22,680 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: railway was also part of the 2988 03:27:22,680 --> 03:27:24,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: discussion. And we 2989 03:27:24,460 --> 03:27:27,580 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: know India, that's what 2990 03:27:27,580 --> 03:27:29,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: it's good at, building railways. 2991 03:27:30,660 --> 03:27:31,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Wala nila. 2992 03:27:31,460 --> 03:27:32,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Naro gauge yata sila eh. 2993 03:27:32,700 --> 03:27:34,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think now it's the world 2994 03:27:34,720 --> 03:27:36,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is now standard gauge. Pero okay din naman ng 2995 03:27:36,480 --> 03:27:38,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: India. Ang ano ko lang, Sek, 2996 03:27:38,740 --> 03:27:40,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I really would want to push this. I've been 2997 03:27:40,780 --> 03:27:42,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pushing for this for so 2998 03:27:42,740 --> 03:27:44,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: long. Because especially in Mindanao, 2999 03:27:44,740 --> 03:27:46,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: why it's very important? 3000 03:27:46,600 --> 03:27:48,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because Mindanao is the 3001 03:27:48,660 --> 03:27:49,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: richest among the islands. 3002 03:27:49,960 --> 03:27:52,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa mga natural sources, sa lahat, 3003 03:27:52,860 --> 03:27:53,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa taba ng lupa. 3004 03:27:54,460 --> 03:27:56,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But because of decades of strife, 3005 03:27:56,980 --> 03:27:57,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: conflict, 3006 03:27:58,840 --> 03:28:00,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it has not really reached its potential. 3007 03:28:01,240 --> 03:28:02,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya lang, saya ngayon, 3008 03:28:02,980 --> 03:28:04,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: now that we have the banks, 3009 03:28:04,440 --> 03:28:06,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: more organic law, meron tayong peace 3010 03:28:06,700 --> 03:28:08,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ngayon, for several 3011 03:28:08,620 --> 03:28:10,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: years now. But I think 3012 03:28:10,760 --> 03:28:12,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we need to follow it up with economic 3013 03:28:12,780 --> 03:28:14,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: development. Ang tingin ko, 3014 03:28:15,040 --> 03:28:16,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the only way we can solve 3015 03:28:16,400 --> 03:28:18,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung talagang magkaroon 3016 03:28:18,680 --> 03:28:20,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng opportunity ang buong Mindanao 3017 03:28:20,880 --> 03:28:22,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and reach its full 3018 03:28:22,600 --> 03:28:24,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: potential is to have 3019 03:28:24,420 --> 03:28:25,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a railway system around. 3020 03:28:26,100 --> 03:28:28,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi yung mga, siguro, pansin nyo yung 3021 03:28:28,400 --> 03:28:30,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: gulo noon, sa western side, 3022 03:28:30,600 --> 03:28:33,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: MILF, 3023 03:28:33,940 --> 03:28:36,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ASG, 3024 03:28:36,300 --> 03:28:38,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: MNLF, BIFF, 3025 03:28:38,900 --> 03:28:40,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Central Mindanao, lahat na lang letra. 3026 03:28:40,500 --> 03:28:40,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang dami na. 3027 03:28:41,800 --> 03:28:44,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sa eastern side naman, CPP, NPA, 3028 03:28:44,480 --> 03:28:46,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: may insurgency. It's because of 3029 03:28:46,540 --> 03:28:48,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lack of opportunity in Mindanao. Mayaman 3030 03:28:48,500 --> 03:28:50,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng Mindanao eh. Kaya lang, because of 3031 03:28:50,500 --> 03:28:52,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the lack of opportunity, ang dali nila 3032 03:28:52,300 --> 03:28:54,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mang hikayap. Ang daling kumulungan. 3033 03:28:54,420 --> 03:28:56,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kumuha ng support noon. 3034 03:28:56,560 --> 03:28:58,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi nga, guto man tao. But I think 3035 03:28:58,580 --> 03:29:00,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with the railway system, we spread 3036 03:29:00,640 --> 03:29:02,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: out the growth. Hindi lang 3037 03:29:02,560 --> 03:29:04,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kagendi oro, hindi lang 3038 03:29:04,160 --> 03:29:05,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Davao ang 3039 03:29:05,820 --> 03:29:08,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: magkakaroon ng development. 3040 03:29:08,660 --> 03:29:10,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We will create growth areas all 3041 03:29:10,480 --> 03:29:12,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: over. Parang yun ang 3042 03:29:12,040 --> 03:29:14,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tingin ko eh. By creating growth nodes, 3043 03:29:14,900 --> 03:29:16,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: growth development areas, 3044 03:29:16,380 --> 03:29:18,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: magkaka-industrial parka, for terminals, 3045 03:29:19,780 --> 03:29:20,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: commercial centers. 3046 03:29:21,460 --> 03:29:22,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, I think we 3047 03:29:22,460 --> 03:29:23,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: am hoping that 3048 03:29:23,320 --> 03:29:23,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we'll be able to do that. 3049 03:29:24,420 --> 03:29:25,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, DepTev will be 3050 03:29:25,540 --> 03:29:27,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: also pushing, still continue 3051 03:29:27,760 --> 03:29:29,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to push for the Mindanao 3052 03:29:29,640 --> 03:29:31,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: railway system. And ganoon din yung 3053 03:29:31,380 --> 03:29:33,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: South Long Haul. It will, Bicol 3054 03:29:33,520 --> 03:29:34,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is one of the 3055 03:29:34,600 --> 03:29:37,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: beautiful provinces na mayaman. Pero 3056 03:29:37,480 --> 03:29:38,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because of 3057 03:29:38,240 --> 03:29:41,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: distance, parang sa inyong isolated. 3058 03:29:41,960 --> 03:29:43,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Poor region sila. 3059 03:29:43,580 --> 03:29:44,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang ganda-ganda ng Bicol, diba? 3060 03:29:45,660 --> 03:29:47,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, Sigur Sek, can 3061 03:29:47,040 --> 03:29:49,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: DepTev ba no? Really push for this 3062 03:29:49,640 --> 03:29:50,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: to... Definitely, 3063 03:29:51,740 --> 03:29:53,200 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair, because 3064 03:29:54,420 --> 03:29:57,240 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: for me, in particular, I see 3065 03:29:57,240 --> 03:29:59,420 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the need to connect the country. 3066 03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:01,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: efficiently. 3067 03:30:02,180 --> 03:30:04,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: That's the only way we can make growth 3068 03:30:04,260 --> 03:30:05,280 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: more inclusive. 3069 03:30:06,040 --> 03:30:08,120 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Otherwise, growth 3070 03:30:08,120 --> 03:30:09,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: will continue to be 3071 03:30:09,400 --> 03:30:12,400 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Manila-centric and that's not 3072 03:30:12,400 --> 03:30:14,160 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: a good future for 3073 03:30:14,160 --> 03:30:16,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the country. We have to 3074 03:30:16,080 --> 03:30:16,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: create 3075 03:30:16,920 --> 03:30:20,320 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: many more growth opportunities. 3076 03:30:20,680 --> 03:30:21,000 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: In fact, 3077 03:30:21,940 --> 03:30:23,520 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: when 3078 03:30:23,520 --> 03:30:26,020 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Sec. Jimmy 3079 03:30:26,020 --> 03:30:27,700 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Bautista was still 3080 03:30:27,700 --> 03:30:29,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the OTR, we were actually 3081 03:30:29,640 --> 03:30:32,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: discussing and pushing for 3082 03:30:32,080 --> 03:30:33,540 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: the 3083 03:30:33,540 --> 03:30:35,720 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: preparation of the 3084 03:30:35,720 --> 03:30:37,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: even free feasibility study 3085 03:30:37,820 --> 03:30:39,600 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: bringing the train 3086 03:30:39,600 --> 03:30:42,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: from Manila 3087 03:30:42,100 --> 03:30:43,780 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or from Clark 3088 03:30:43,780 --> 03:30:44,940 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: all the way to Cagayan. 3089 03:30:46,500 --> 03:30:47,660 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Isabela and 3090 03:30:47,660 --> 03:30:49,640 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Nobiskaya and Cagayan are so rich 3091 03:30:49,640 --> 03:30:51,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and have so much high 3092 03:30:51,260 --> 03:30:52,920 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: potential for agriculture 3093 03:30:52,920 --> 03:30:53,360 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: but 3094 03:30:53,360 --> 03:30:57,340 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: they cannot be competitive 3095 03:30:57,340 --> 03:30:59,500 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: unless 3096 03:30:59,500 --> 03:30:59,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: they have 3097 03:30:59,640 --> 03:31:01,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: because the transport cost 3098 03:31:01,100 --> 03:31:03,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: using the usual bus system 3099 03:31:03,620 --> 03:31:04,960 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: or truck system 3100 03:31:04,960 --> 03:31:06,380 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: is expensive. 3101 03:31:07,240 --> 03:31:09,440 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Rail is still the cheapest way 3102 03:31:09,440 --> 03:31:11,260 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: of moving goods 3103 03:31:11,260 --> 03:31:13,560 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: and most environment 3104 03:31:13,560 --> 03:31:14,100 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: friendly. 3105 03:31:14,940 --> 03:31:15,620 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: So, 3106 03:31:16,020 --> 03:31:16,820 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: sana meron. 3107 03:31:17,200 --> 03:31:18,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung mga truck kasi, 3108 03:31:18,460 --> 03:31:21,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: lahat ng dadaan na may tong pa. 3109 03:31:21,880 --> 03:31:22,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, 3110 03:31:22,200 --> 03:31:25,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: our transportation cost is really expensive. 3111 03:31:25,520 --> 03:31:27,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, I think that will be good also. 3112 03:31:27,020 --> 03:31:27,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, 3113 03:31:27,180 --> 03:31:28,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: magkaroon ng 3114 03:31:28,320 --> 03:31:29,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: transportation. 3115 03:31:29,640 --> 03:31:31,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Line, especially cargo 3116 03:31:31,080 --> 03:31:33,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the Cagayan Valley area. 3117 03:31:35,660 --> 03:31:36,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, thank you. 3118 03:31:37,840 --> 03:31:38,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: With regards, 3119 03:31:38,860 --> 03:31:40,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro just a question for PPP. 3120 03:31:41,420 --> 03:31:43,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Since I was the one who 3121 03:31:43,620 --> 03:31:45,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: authored and sponsored 3122 03:31:45,120 --> 03:31:46,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the PPP code. 3123 03:31:48,980 --> 03:31:49,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tanong lang, 3124 03:31:49,920 --> 03:31:51,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: what exactly is the role of PPP Center 3125 03:31:51,680 --> 03:31:53,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ensuring that government PPP projects 3126 03:31:53,920 --> 03:31:55,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: succeed? 3127 03:31:55,940 --> 03:31:56,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because in August, 3128 03:31:56,940 --> 03:31:59,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the administration's 3129 03:31:59,060 --> 03:31:59,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: first PPP, 3130 03:31:59,640 --> 03:32:03,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: UPPJH Cancer Center project 3131 03:32:03,020 --> 03:32:04,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: failed to attract a single bidder. 3132 03:32:05,520 --> 03:32:06,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, what went wrong? 3133 03:32:06,460 --> 03:32:07,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And what is the PPP Center 3134 03:32:07,960 --> 03:32:10,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: doing to help national agencies 3135 03:32:10,120 --> 03:32:11,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and LGUs develop projects 3136 03:32:11,620 --> 03:32:12,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that are truly viable, 3137 03:32:12,880 --> 03:32:13,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: bankable, 3138 03:32:13,580 --> 03:32:14,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and attractive to investors? 3139 03:32:15,760 --> 03:32:17,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Executive Director, 3140 03:32:17,920 --> 03:32:18,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Rizal Latore, 3141 03:32:18,820 --> 03:32:19,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: you may want to answer. 3142 03:32:20,380 --> 03:32:20,680 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Yes, 3143 03:32:20,860 --> 03:32:22,040 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: thank you for the question, 3144 03:32:22,160 --> 03:32:22,620 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Mr. Chair. 3145 03:32:22,760 --> 03:32:24,400 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: So, for the PPP Center, 3146 03:32:24,580 --> 03:32:25,520 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: we're the primary 3147 03:32:25,520 --> 03:32:27,140 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: government agency 3148 03:32:27,140 --> 03:32:27,640 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: that is responsible 3149 03:32:28,160 --> 03:32:28,640 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: in providing 3150 03:32:28,640 --> 03:32:29,640 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: transportation, 3151 03:32:29,740 --> 03:32:30,920 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: technical assistance 3152 03:32:30,920 --> 03:32:33,140 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: to the implementing agencies 3153 03:32:33,140 --> 03:32:34,980 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: from the project development 3154 03:32:34,980 --> 03:32:37,160 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: up to evaluation, 3155 03:32:37,500 --> 03:32:37,920 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: approval, 3156 03:32:38,260 --> 03:32:39,820 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and monitoring 3157 03:32:39,820 --> 03:32:42,140 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: ng mga PPP projects. 3158 03:32:42,620 --> 03:32:44,460 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Now, in response po dun sa 3159 03:32:44,460 --> 03:32:47,120 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: UPPJH Cancer Center, 3160 03:32:47,360 --> 03:32:49,180 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: as we all know, 3161 03:32:49,300 --> 03:32:50,340 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: last August 4 po 3162 03:32:50,340 --> 03:32:51,800 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: was the deadline 3163 03:32:51,800 --> 03:32:53,220 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: for the submission of bid. 3164 03:32:53,620 --> 03:32:54,140 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Unfortunately, 3165 03:32:54,620 --> 03:32:56,240 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: there was none. 3166 03:32:56,240 --> 03:32:58,840 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: No private company submitted the bid. 3167 03:32:58,840 --> 03:33:00,880 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: But there were four po, 3168 03:33:00,980 --> 03:33:01,640 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Mr. Chair, 3169 03:33:01,780 --> 03:33:02,720 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: who actually bought 3170 03:33:02,720 --> 03:33:04,220 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: the bid documents. 3171 03:33:04,740 --> 03:33:06,100 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Now, PPP Center, 3172 03:33:06,260 --> 03:33:08,160 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: together with UPPJH, 3173 03:33:08,160 --> 03:33:09,280 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: UPE Management, 3174 03:33:09,940 --> 03:33:11,840 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: met with those bidders 3175 03:33:12,380 --> 03:33:14,820 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and secured their feedback 3176 03:33:14,820 --> 03:33:16,460 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: on why they eventually 3177 03:33:16,460 --> 03:33:18,560 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: did not submit the bid. 3178 03:33:18,840 --> 03:33:20,440 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Among the reasons po 3179 03:33:20,440 --> 03:33:22,820 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: cited by the prospective bidders, 3180 03:33:22,960 --> 03:33:24,100 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: kasi po from the time po 3181 03:33:24,100 --> 03:33:25,620 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: na na-approve yung project, 3182 03:33:26,040 --> 03:33:26,980 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: up to the time po 3183 03:33:26,980 --> 03:33:28,120 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: ng date ng submission 3184 03:33:28,120 --> 03:33:28,820 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: ng bid management, 3185 03:33:28,840 --> 03:33:30,160 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: masyado na pong matagal 3186 03:33:30,160 --> 03:33:33,080 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: yung tinakbo ng oras 3187 03:33:33,080 --> 03:33:36,000 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and the cost of the project 3188 03:33:36,000 --> 03:33:38,940 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: as far as the prospective bidders 3189 03:33:38,940 --> 03:33:39,680 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: are concerned 3190 03:33:39,680 --> 03:33:42,380 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: are actually way too high already 3191 03:33:42,380 --> 03:33:43,400 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: because of what happened 3192 03:33:43,400 --> 03:33:44,960 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: the past six months po 3193 03:33:44,960 --> 03:33:45,900 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: in our economy. 3194 03:33:46,120 --> 03:33:48,320 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: So, yun po yung primary reason. 3195 03:33:48,920 --> 03:33:51,760 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: But at least two out of the four 3196 03:33:51,760 --> 03:33:52,840 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: prospective bidders 3197 03:33:52,840 --> 03:33:55,180 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: still expressed that they do want 3198 03:33:55,180 --> 03:33:57,300 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: to support the government 3199 03:33:57,300 --> 03:33:58,660 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: in this initiative. 3200 03:33:58,840 --> 03:34:02,040 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: And we are now discussing 3201 03:34:02,040 --> 03:34:04,840 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: how we can revive the project 3202 03:34:04,840 --> 03:34:06,440 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and update the assumptions 3203 03:34:06,440 --> 03:34:09,480 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: used for the UPPJH Cancer Center. 3204 03:34:10,160 --> 03:34:11,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, are there any 3205 03:34:11,520 --> 03:34:15,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mga potential PPP ventures 3206 03:34:15,360 --> 03:34:16,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that you're looking at 3207 03:34:16,400 --> 03:34:19,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in the coming year? 3208 03:34:19,320 --> 03:34:21,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You think that has a big chance 3209 03:34:22,440 --> 03:34:24,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of pushing through? 3210 03:34:25,200 --> 03:34:26,160 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Yes, Mr. Chair. 3211 03:34:26,160 --> 03:34:28,820 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Swiss people, there are more than 3212 03:34:28,840 --> 03:34:31,380 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: 250 PPP projects 3213 03:34:31,380 --> 03:34:32,560 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: that we are monitoring 3214 03:34:32,560 --> 03:34:33,640 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: in our pipeline 3215 03:34:33,640 --> 03:34:34,760 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: under different stages 3216 03:34:34,760 --> 03:34:35,720 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: of development. 3217 03:34:36,200 --> 03:34:36,940 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: Combined po yan 3218 03:34:36,940 --> 03:34:38,760 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: for national implementing agencies 3219 03:34:38,760 --> 03:34:40,540 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and the local government units. 3220 03:34:41,040 --> 03:34:42,860 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: However, we are closely, 3221 03:34:43,080 --> 03:34:43,480 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: like, you know, 3222 03:34:43,520 --> 03:34:44,380 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: when I say closely, 3223 03:34:44,540 --> 03:34:45,240 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: week on week, 3224 03:34:45,760 --> 03:34:47,820 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: monitoring po yung progress 3225 03:34:47,820 --> 03:34:49,640 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: about 10% of that. 3226 03:34:49,840 --> 03:34:50,680 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: So, we're looking at 3227 03:34:50,680 --> 03:34:52,920 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: 25 to 30 PPP projects 3228 03:34:52,920 --> 03:34:54,240 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: that we are expecting 3229 03:34:54,240 --> 03:34:56,120 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: to be awarded 3230 03:34:56,120 --> 03:34:58,280 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: within this administration po. 3231 03:34:58,840 --> 03:35:00,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, thank you. 3232 03:35:00,380 --> 03:35:01,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm hoping that 3233 03:35:01,240 --> 03:35:03,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: there will be 3234 03:35:03,760 --> 03:35:05,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: some projects 3235 03:35:05,740 --> 03:35:06,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that will really be, 3236 03:35:06,740 --> 03:35:08,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that will really materialize. 3237 03:35:09,880 --> 03:35:11,680 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: If I may add, Mr. Chair, 3238 03:35:11,840 --> 03:35:13,740 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: what we have been seeing also 3239 03:35:13,740 --> 03:35:15,500 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: as significant progress 3240 03:35:15,500 --> 03:35:16,120 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and achievements 3241 03:35:16,120 --> 03:35:17,700 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: that we have for PPPs po, 3242 03:35:17,780 --> 03:35:18,700 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: yung po mga projects 3243 03:35:18,700 --> 03:35:19,960 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: that have been long delayed 3244 03:35:19,960 --> 03:35:21,500 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: for like decades, 3245 03:35:21,500 --> 03:35:23,000 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: we see them getting approved 3246 03:35:23,000 --> 03:35:23,840 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and implemented 3247 03:35:23,840 --> 03:35:24,800 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: and, you know, 3248 03:35:24,880 --> 03:35:25,860 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: expected to operate 3249 03:35:25,860 --> 03:35:27,880 PPP Center Executive Director Rizza Blanco-Latorre: in the next few months po. 3250 03:35:28,840 --> 03:35:29,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, thank you. 3251 03:35:30,420 --> 03:35:31,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Of course, I'm looking at that. 3252 03:35:31,660 --> 03:35:33,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Being the author of this code, 3253 03:35:33,420 --> 03:35:34,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm hopeful 3254 03:35:34,900 --> 03:35:37,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and that it becomes successful 3255 03:35:37,880 --> 03:35:39,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi ang ano ng target naman natin dito 3256 03:35:39,660 --> 03:35:42,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to help in infrastructure development eh. 3257 03:35:43,180 --> 03:35:43,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3258 03:35:44,060 --> 03:35:45,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: PPP, nandyan yung hopefully 3259 03:35:45,560 --> 03:35:46,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: master plan. 3260 03:35:47,000 --> 03:35:47,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We all know, 3261 03:35:47,740 --> 03:35:48,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we all need 3262 03:35:48,460 --> 03:35:49,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: this 3263 03:35:49,660 --> 03:35:52,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: these measures 3264 03:35:52,480 --> 03:35:54,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or laws 3265 03:35:54,340 --> 03:35:56,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that nandyan yung backbone 3266 03:35:56,500 --> 03:35:58,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to set the proper direction. 3267 03:35:58,840 --> 03:35:59,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: In the future. 3268 03:36:00,640 --> 03:36:01,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay, thank you. 3269 03:36:01,460 --> 03:36:02,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro last na po 3270 03:36:02,560 --> 03:36:04,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: doon sa community-based 3271 03:36:04,560 --> 03:36:05,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: monitoring system, 3272 03:36:05,700 --> 03:36:07,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: probably PSA 3273 03:36:07,020 --> 03:36:09,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for fiscal year 2027, 3274 03:36:09,800 --> 03:36:10,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: there's a higher budget 3275 03:36:10,800 --> 03:36:11,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the PSA 3276 03:36:11,560 --> 03:36:12,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: because of the 3277 03:36:12,440 --> 03:36:14,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: conduct of the 2027 3278 03:36:14,700 --> 03:36:16,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: community-based monitoring system. 3279 03:36:17,860 --> 03:36:19,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Bilyon ang nindayaan ng gobyerno 3280 03:36:19,340 --> 03:36:20,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: taon-taon sa ayuda 3281 03:36:20,280 --> 03:36:22,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at iba pang social protection programs. 3282 03:36:23,060 --> 03:36:24,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Are we already using 3283 03:36:24,280 --> 03:36:26,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the updated CBMS data 3284 03:36:26,060 --> 03:36:27,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to make sure that 3285 03:36:27,120 --> 03:36:28,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: government assistance, 3286 03:36:28,840 --> 03:36:29,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: reaches the people 3287 03:36:29,720 --> 03:36:30,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: who actually need it? 3288 03:36:31,840 --> 03:36:34,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And how often is CBMS data updated? 3289 03:36:35,060 --> 03:36:35,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you very much. 3290 03:36:35,920 --> 03:36:37,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mapa. 3291 03:36:37,340 --> 03:36:38,300 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. 3292 03:36:38,780 --> 03:36:41,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Yung ating previous na CBMS 3293 03:36:41,320 --> 03:36:43,260 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na lahat ng mga LGUs 3294 03:36:43,260 --> 03:36:44,740 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ay napunan ng datos, 3295 03:36:45,240 --> 03:36:48,060 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ito po yung 2024 CBMS 3296 03:36:48,060 --> 03:36:51,380 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: at yung budget ng CBMS 3297 03:36:51,380 --> 03:36:52,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: during the time 3298 03:36:52,040 --> 03:36:53,460 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: kasi kasabay siya ng census. 3299 03:36:53,940 --> 03:36:55,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So mga less than 5 billion. 3300 03:36:55,700 --> 03:36:57,480 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: At ito po yung ginamit 3301 03:36:57,480 --> 03:36:58,160 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: tamang-tama 3302 03:36:58,160 --> 03:36:58,640 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: dahil mayroon na yung 3303 03:36:58,640 --> 03:37:02,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: mayroon tayong krisis, 3304 03:37:02,780 --> 03:37:05,840 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: nagkaroon tayo ng bagong listahan 3305 03:37:05,840 --> 03:37:07,880 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: doon sa mga binibigyan ng ayuda. 3306 03:37:08,320 --> 03:37:10,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: If you recall, Mr. Chair, 3307 03:37:10,220 --> 03:37:11,040 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung uplift, 3308 03:37:11,600 --> 03:37:13,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Group 1, Group 2, Group 3, 3309 03:37:13,280 --> 03:37:14,640 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: 7.5 million households, 3310 03:37:15,280 --> 03:37:16,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: galing po yun sa 3311 03:37:16,120 --> 03:37:19,060 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: relatively new data 3312 03:37:19,060 --> 03:37:20,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: from the community-based 3313 03:37:20,120 --> 03:37:20,860 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: monitoring system. 3314 03:37:21,140 --> 03:37:23,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: In addition to the use of CBMS 3315 03:37:23,120 --> 03:37:25,820 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: for national social protection programs, 3316 03:37:25,960 --> 03:37:26,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ang pinaka-importante rin, 3317 03:37:27,040 --> 03:37:27,860 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: binibigay namin ito 3318 03:37:27,860 --> 03:37:28,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: sa mga local government, 3319 03:37:28,640 --> 03:37:30,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: para sa kanilang 3320 03:37:30,400 --> 03:37:31,800 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: local level planning. 3321 03:37:31,980 --> 03:37:32,780 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: At marami na rin po 3322 03:37:32,780 --> 03:37:34,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung mga LGUs na gumagamit 3323 03:37:34,620 --> 03:37:36,400 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ng community-based monitoring system. 3324 03:37:36,780 --> 03:37:38,240 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Ayon sa CBMS Act, 3325 03:37:38,340 --> 03:37:39,720 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: yung CBMS ay gagawin 3326 03:37:39,720 --> 03:37:40,600 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: every three years. 3327 03:37:41,140 --> 03:37:42,740 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So ito po ay 3328 03:37:42,740 --> 03:37:44,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: nag-request ng 3329 03:37:44,180 --> 03:37:45,360 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Philippine Statistics Authority 3330 03:37:45,360 --> 03:37:46,960 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ng panibagong pondo 3331 03:37:46,960 --> 03:37:48,100 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: para sa pag-update 3332 03:37:48,100 --> 03:37:49,520 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ng community-based 3333 03:37:49,520 --> 03:37:51,500 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: monitoring system for 2027. 3334 03:37:51,680 --> 03:37:53,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Dahil po 2024 siya, 3335 03:37:53,520 --> 03:37:54,060 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: of course, 3336 03:37:54,280 --> 03:37:55,420 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: naging advantageous siya 3337 03:37:55,420 --> 03:37:56,320 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: from the COVID, 3338 03:37:56,840 --> 03:37:58,120 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: but we had also crisis 3339 03:37:58,120 --> 03:37:59,180 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: itong 2026. 3340 03:37:59,360 --> 03:37:59,800 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: So I'm sure, 3341 03:38:00,260 --> 03:38:01,940 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: marami rin tayong mga households 3342 03:38:01,940 --> 03:38:03,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: na baka 3343 03:38:03,080 --> 03:38:05,080 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: bumaba yung well-being. 3344 03:38:05,620 --> 03:38:06,060 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Hopefully, 3345 03:38:06,520 --> 03:38:08,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: ito po ay masama naman 3346 03:38:08,020 --> 03:38:09,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: sa 2027 3347 03:38:09,020 --> 03:38:10,620 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: community-based monitoring system. 3348 03:38:10,980 --> 03:38:11,560 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: Mr. Chair, 3349 03:38:11,700 --> 03:38:12,020 PSA Undersecretary Claire Dennis S. Mapa: thank you. 3350 03:38:12,700 --> 03:38:13,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. 3351 03:38:13,520 --> 03:38:13,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, 3352 03:38:14,620 --> 03:38:15,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I guess that's about it. 3353 03:38:16,080 --> 03:38:16,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero ano ko lang, 3354 03:38:17,920 --> 03:38:18,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sek, 3355 03:38:18,200 --> 03:38:19,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro talagang dapat 3356 03:38:19,280 --> 03:38:20,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung 3357 03:38:20,820 --> 03:38:23,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: long-term plan natin 3358 03:38:23,980 --> 03:38:25,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng gobyerno natin 3359 03:38:25,080 --> 03:38:26,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: really for 3360 03:38:26,320 --> 03:38:27,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: jobs in opportunity, 3361 03:38:28,120 --> 03:38:28,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: opportunities to 3362 03:38:28,740 --> 03:38:30,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: improvement of infrastructure 3363 03:38:30,160 --> 03:38:31,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and tsaka magkaroon tayo 3364 03:38:31,660 --> 03:38:33,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ng master plan. 3365 03:38:34,000 --> 03:38:35,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dapat natin pag-isipan 3366 03:38:35,140 --> 03:38:35,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kung paano natin 3367 03:38:35,860 --> 03:38:37,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: must stimulate economic growth 3368 03:38:37,180 --> 03:38:39,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi hindi ako naniniwala 3369 03:38:39,480 --> 03:38:39,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang ano eh. 3370 03:38:40,760 --> 03:38:41,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ayuda tayo 3371 03:38:41,500 --> 03:38:42,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: buong buhay natin eh. 3372 03:38:42,760 --> 03:38:42,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3373 03:38:43,180 --> 03:38:44,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This is not sustainable. 3374 03:38:44,560 --> 03:38:44,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3375 03:38:45,560 --> 03:38:45,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3376 03:38:45,860 --> 03:38:46,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Saan natin kukunin yan? 3377 03:38:46,880 --> 03:38:47,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mangungutang tayo 3378 03:38:47,780 --> 03:38:49,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tapos ayuda nang ayuda. 3379 03:38:49,200 --> 03:38:50,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dapat yung investment natin, 3380 03:38:50,780 --> 03:38:51,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung utang natin, 3381 03:38:52,180 --> 03:38:52,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tama kayo, Sek. 3382 03:38:54,040 --> 03:38:54,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dapat ito, 3383 03:38:54,540 --> 03:38:56,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nakalimit sa capital investment. 3384 03:38:56,280 --> 03:38:57,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Those have the top returns 3385 03:38:57,500 --> 03:38:58,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to the economy. 3386 03:38:58,740 --> 03:38:59,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3387 03:39:00,380 --> 03:39:01,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Definitely investments 3388 03:39:01,640 --> 03:39:03,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: on infrastructure, 3389 03:39:03,840 --> 03:39:04,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: railway system, 3390 03:39:04,800 --> 03:39:05,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: airport supports 3391 03:39:05,580 --> 03:39:05,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: are, 3392 03:39:06,660 --> 03:39:07,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: will cost a lot. 3393 03:39:07,960 --> 03:39:08,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But I think 3394 03:39:08,500 --> 03:39:09,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the return sa economy 3395 03:39:09,760 --> 03:39:10,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: will be enormous. 3396 03:39:11,760 --> 03:39:12,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kailangan talaga eh. 3397 03:39:12,660 --> 03:39:12,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3398 03:39:12,880 --> 03:39:13,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kailangan talaga natin 3399 03:39:13,760 --> 03:39:14,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mag-invest. 3400 03:39:15,920 --> 03:39:17,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's the only way 3401 03:39:17,020 --> 03:39:18,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we can create growth areas, 3402 03:39:19,440 --> 03:39:20,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: stimulate economic growth 3403 03:39:20,620 --> 03:39:21,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and growth, 3404 03:39:22,020 --> 03:39:23,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: spread out the development 3405 03:39:23,340 --> 03:39:23,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para 3406 03:39:23,700 --> 03:39:26,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I think jobs and opportunities 3407 03:39:26,240 --> 03:39:27,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa trabaang ano natin, 3408 03:39:27,540 --> 03:39:28,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: long-term. 3409 03:39:28,120 --> 03:39:29,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3410 03:39:30,340 --> 03:39:32,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sustainable programs 3411 03:39:32,080 --> 03:39:32,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and projects 3412 03:39:32,700 --> 03:39:34,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and hindi dapat ayuda 3413 03:39:34,240 --> 03:39:36,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang ating po 3414 03:39:36,080 --> 03:39:37,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: tinitignan na 3415 03:39:37,040 --> 03:39:38,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: parang programa. 3416 03:39:38,740 --> 03:39:39,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ito, so ano lang yan? 3417 03:39:40,820 --> 03:39:42,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Dapat short-term lang yan 3418 03:39:42,420 --> 03:39:44,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or medium-term. 3419 03:39:44,300 --> 03:39:44,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 3420 03:39:44,620 --> 03:39:44,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi, 3421 03:39:45,840 --> 03:39:46,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kailangan natin 3422 03:39:46,800 --> 03:39:48,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: buhayin 3423 03:39:48,280 --> 03:39:49,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: economy natin. 3424 03:39:50,100 --> 03:39:50,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Again, 3425 03:39:51,260 --> 03:39:52,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for jobs and opportunities 3426 03:39:52,740 --> 03:39:53,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in the future. 3427 03:39:54,160 --> 03:39:54,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay? 3428 03:39:55,280 --> 03:39:55,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, 3429 03:39:57,140 --> 03:39:57,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with that, 3430 03:39:57,540 --> 03:39:58,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will submit 3431 03:39:58,140 --> 03:39:59,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the rest of our questions 3432 03:39:59,080 --> 03:39:59,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to the agencies 3433 03:39:59,720 --> 03:40:01,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the appropriate answers. 3434 03:40:01,320 --> 03:40:02,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung mga iba po para 3435 03:40:02,220 --> 03:40:04,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sasabihin na lang namin sa inyo 3436 03:40:04,100 --> 03:40:05,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para makapaghanda kayo 3437 03:40:05,280 --> 03:40:06,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the plenary 3438 03:40:06,060 --> 03:40:07,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: defense and debates. 3439 03:40:09,000 --> 03:40:09,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, 3440 03:40:09,640 --> 03:40:10,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: pakihandaan nyo na lang 3441 03:40:10,660 --> 03:40:11,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sa mga 3442 03:40:11,280 --> 03:40:13,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: respective agencies 3443 03:40:13,520 --> 03:40:14,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para ho, 3444 03:40:14,160 --> 03:40:15,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: once I defend, 3445 03:40:16,540 --> 03:40:18,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I will be ready 3446 03:40:18,400 --> 03:40:19,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to have 3447 03:40:19,480 --> 03:40:20,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to answer the queries 3448 03:40:20,760 --> 03:40:21,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: from the 3449 03:40:21,800 --> 03:40:22,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: legislators 3450 03:40:22,480 --> 03:40:23,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: on the floor. 3451 03:40:23,780 --> 03:40:25,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I will need your expertise 3452 03:40:25,000 --> 03:40:26,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: dahil ako hindi expert. 3453 03:40:26,880 --> 03:40:27,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hindi ako 3454 03:40:27,240 --> 03:40:28,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ekonomista. 3455 03:40:28,920 --> 03:40:29,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I hate numbers. 3456 03:40:30,040 --> 03:40:30,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya, 3457 03:40:30,180 --> 03:40:31,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kailangan kong 3458 03:40:31,000 --> 03:40:33,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: expertise ninyong lahat. 3459 03:40:33,720 --> 03:40:33,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: No? 3460 03:40:34,260 --> 03:40:34,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Okay? 3461 03:40:34,520 --> 03:40:34,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, 3462 03:40:34,680 --> 03:40:35,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: please prepare for the 3463 03:40:35,820 --> 03:40:36,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: questions 3464 03:40:36,740 --> 03:40:38,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: or potential 3465 03:40:38,140 --> 03:40:39,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: issues and topics 3466 03:40:39,640 --> 03:40:40,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that might be asked 3467 03:40:40,840 --> 03:40:41,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: during the plenary. 3468 03:40:42,600 --> 03:40:43,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The committee chair 3469 03:40:43,500 --> 03:40:44,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: would like to thank everyone, 3470 03:40:44,660 --> 03:40:45,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Secretary Balisakan, 3471 03:40:45,840 --> 03:40:47,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the undersecretaries, 3472 03:40:48,420 --> 03:40:48,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of course, 3473 03:40:49,080 --> 03:40:50,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the heads of agencies, 3474 03:40:50,380 --> 03:40:51,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the same resource person 3475 03:40:51,380 --> 03:40:52,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for actively participating 3476 03:40:52,840 --> 03:40:53,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: on our 3477 03:40:53,360 --> 03:40:54,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: discussions today. 3478 03:40:54,940 --> 03:40:55,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: There being no other 3479 03:40:55,680 --> 03:40:56,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: further questions, 3480 03:40:56,480 --> 03:40:56,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the budget, 3481 03:40:57,240 --> 03:40:58,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the Department 3482 03:40:58,280 --> 03:40:59,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of Economy Planning 3483 03:40:59,380 --> 03:41:00,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and Development, 3484 03:41:01,060 --> 03:41:01,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: including 3485 03:41:01,480 --> 03:41:02,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the Satatch Agencies 3486 03:41:02,480 --> 03:41:03,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and Corporations, 3487 03:41:03,880 --> 03:41:05,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Commission on Population 3488 03:41:05,060 --> 03:41:06,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and Development, 3489 03:41:06,840 --> 03:41:08,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Philippine National 3490 03:41:08,240 --> 03:41:09,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Volunteer Service 3491 03:41:09,240 --> 03:41:10,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Coordinating Agency, 3492 03:41:11,600 --> 03:41:12,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Public-Private 3493 03:41:12,460 --> 03:41:13,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Partnership Center 3494 03:41:13,360 --> 03:41:14,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the Philippines, 3495 03:41:15,080 --> 03:41:16,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Philippine Statistical 3496 03:41:16,280 --> 03:41:17,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Research and Training 3497 03:41:17,360 --> 03:41:17,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Institute, 3498 03:41:18,820 --> 03:41:19,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tariff Commission, 3499 03:41:20,060 --> 03:41:20,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Philippine Statistics 3500 03:41:20,880 --> 03:41:21,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Authority, 3501 03:41:22,180 --> 03:41:23,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Development Academy 3502 03:41:23,320 --> 03:41:24,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the Philippines, 3503 03:41:24,400 --> 03:41:25,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and Philippine Institute 3504 03:41:25,400 --> 03:41:26,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for Development Studies, 3505 03:41:27,240 --> 03:41:27,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is now deemed 3506 03:41:27,860 --> 03:41:28,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: submitted 3507 03:41:28,260 --> 03:41:29,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for the plenary 3508 03:41:29,180 --> 03:41:30,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: consideration 3509 03:41:30,020 --> 03:41:32,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: subject of the discussion 3510 03:41:32,200 --> 03:41:33,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and the submission 3511 03:41:33,000 --> 03:41:34,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the documents. 3512 03:41:34,560 --> 03:41:36,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This briefing 3513 03:41:36,200 --> 03:41:37,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is hereby suspended. 3514 03:41:37,380 --> 03:41:37,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. 3515 03:41:39,320 --> 03:41:40,460 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Thank you so much, 3516 03:41:40,560 --> 03:41:41,080 DEPDev Secretary Arsenio M. Balisacan: Mr. Chair.