1 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:14,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh g of the committee on finance we'd like to call the hearing uh budget hearing to order 2 00:09:18,460 --> 00:09:25,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: good morning and uh welcome to this uh hearing of the committee on finance subcommittee g 3 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:35,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: um the hearing today is for the proposed uh fiscal year 2027 budget of the judiciary 4 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:43,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: uh i'm i understand that senators jv ejército and uh senate president win gachalian will be joining 5 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:50,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: us uh in the meantime may i call on our committee secretary attorney philip luna to acknowledge our 6 00:09:50,540 --> 00:09:53,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: resource persons and place it on record go ahead attorney lena 7 00:09:53,700 --> 00:09:56,540 Committee Secretary: good morning mr chair and good 8 00:09:56,540 --> 00:10:03,740 Committee Secretary: morning everyone if you have in attendance the following uh honorable rodel visa lameda associate 9 00:10:03,740 --> 00:10:05,100 Committee Secretary: justice of the supreme court 10 00:10:05,740 --> 00:10:13,100 Committee Secretary: honorable joseph y lopez associate justice of the supreme court honorable jose midas p marquez 11 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:19,660 Committee Secretary: associate justice of the supreme court honorable raul villanueva associate justice of the supreme 12 00:10:19,660 --> 00:10:28,220 Committee Secretary: court the court administrator honorable maria teresa dolores gomez istuesta honorable lillian 13 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:35,420 Committee Secretary: c baribal co deputy court administrator for administration honorable rainel da 14 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:42,460 Committee Secretary: h estacio montesa deputy court administrator for regional services from the court of appeals 15 00:10:42,460 --> 00:10:49,100 Committee Secretary: we have honorable fernanda lampas peralta the presiding justice honorable florencio m mamawag 16 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:56,940 Committee Secretary: jr associate justice no need to stand just raise your hand honorable jennifer joy c ong associate 17 00:10:56,940 --> 00:11:04,940 Committee Secretary: justice honorable rogelio j largo associate justice honorable walter s ong associate justice 18 00:11:06,460 --> 00:11:12,860 Committee Secretary: and from the sitting gun bayan we have honorable geraldine faith a econ presiding justice 19 00:11:14,060 --> 00:11:22,780 Committee Secretary: from honorable jenner m hito associate justice honorable arthur o malabagyo associate justice 20 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:29,980 Committee Secretary: honorable juliette m manalo san gaspar associate justice honorable lord a villanueva associate 21 00:11:29,980 --> 00:11:34,300 Committee Secretary: justice honorable ronald o chua associate justice 22 00:11:35,580 --> 00:11:41,740 Committee Secretary: from the court of tax appeals we have honorable jim marie a bakoro villena associate justice 23 00:11:42,940 --> 00:11:46,540 Committee Secretary: honorable corazon j ferrer flores associate justice 24 00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:53,660 Committee Secretary: from the department of budget and management representatives assigned to the judiciary 25 00:11:54,220 --> 00:12:05,860 Committee Secretary: we have miss marika joanna de la pena chief bms miss maria amore de atotubo svbms from the commission 26 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:07,800 Committee Secretary: on audit representatives assigned to the 27 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Committee Secretary: Supreme Court of the Philippines 28 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Committee Secretary: Ms. Maria Carmela E. Marcos 29 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,020 Committee Secretary: State Auditor 30 00:12:13,020 --> 00:12:16,140 Committee Secretary: Mr. Jervin 31 00:12:16,140 --> 00:12:17,700 Committee Secretary: A. de la Peña, ATL 32 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:19,260 Committee Secretary: Office of the Court Administrator 33 00:12:19,260 --> 00:12:21,840 Committee Secretary: Ms. Cheryl Ann 34 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,500 Committee Secretary: R. Martinez, ATL 35 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:24,280 Committee Secretary: Supreme Court 36 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Committee Secretary: From the co-representatives assigned to 37 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,340 Committee Secretary: the Court of Appeals and Diganbayan 38 00:12:29,340 --> 00:12:31,720 Committee Secretary: Court of Tax Appeals, Ms. Jocelyn 39 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,420 Committee Secretary: S. Nocom, State Auditor 40 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:35,860 Committee Secretary: Ms. Alma L. Resco 41 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:37,400 Committee Secretary: Rosaupan, State Auditor 42 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,540 Committee Secretary: Ms. Diana Oldan, State Auditor 43 00:12:40,540 --> 00:12:42,520 Committee Secretary: That's all, Mr. Che 44 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,460 Committee Secretary: Thank you 45 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:45,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Attorney Lina 46 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We can now proceed 47 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:49,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: First of all, thank you very much 48 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to our Honorable Justices 49 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for your presence 50 00:12:54,460 --> 00:12:54,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: today 51 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Allow me to 52 00:12:57,980 --> 00:13:00,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: begin with my opening statement 53 00:13:00,020 --> 00:13:02,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ito ang 54 00:13:02,060 --> 00:13:03,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bukang bibig 55 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ng marami nating 56 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:06,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mga kababayan. 57 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:08,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Wala namang nakukulong, 58 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala namang napaparusahan, 59 00:13:10,620 --> 00:13:13,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wala namang naibabalik 60 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na pera na ninakaw. 61 00:13:14,820 --> 00:13:17,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Tuloy pa rin ang ligaya. 62 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Totoo 63 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:21,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: man o hindi, 64 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ito ay damdamin ng 65 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:25,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: marami nating mga kababayan. 66 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:27,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mahigit isang buwan na 67 00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:29,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kitang-kita at damang-dama natin 68 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:31,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang pananalasa ng 69 00:13:31,380 --> 00:13:33,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: katiwalian at [unclear] 70 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:36,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kasama ng mga ghost at palpak na 71 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: flood control projects. 72 00:13:38,940 --> 00:13:40,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: [unclear] inanod 73 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang aabot 74 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:46,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na trilyong pisong 75 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:46,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: budget 76 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:48,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na inilaan 77 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:49,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: laban sa 78 00:13:49,380 --> 00:13:50,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mapanirang 79 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:50,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: baha. 80 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:53,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In a manner of speaking 81 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: those accused 82 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: now in the largest corruption 83 00:13:57,540 --> 00:13:59,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: scandal in the history of the Republic 84 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are not the only ones 85 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:02,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: being tried 86 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:03,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Today 87 00:14:03,940 --> 00:14:05,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the judiciary 88 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:06,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the ombudsman 89 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the Department of Justice 90 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the entire Philippine justice system 91 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:13,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is also on trial 92 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: under the court 93 00:14:15,340 --> 00:14:17,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of public opinion 94 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Masakit 95 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:20,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at klarong-klaro, 96 00:14:20,220 --> 00:14:21,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lagpas tao ang 97 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:22,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: lalim ng 98 00:14:22,460 --> 00:14:24,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: puot ng taong 99 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:25,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bayan na patuloy na 100 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: sinasalanta, 101 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:29,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi lang ng baha, 102 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:36,140 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kundi ng matinding kawalan ng hustisya. 103 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I recall, and I mentioned this in one of our committee hearings on the Committee on Justice, 104 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:52,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as we were hearing a measure to try and address the challenges of our justice system. 105 00:14:54,140 --> 00:14:59,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Sandigan Bayan in 2025 convicted two former departments 106 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of Agriculture Officials of GRAF over the anomalous purchase of 3.9 million worth of 107 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: fertilizers, a transaction dating back to 2004. When a judgment of conviction comes 21 years 108 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: after the corruption case was filed, one cannot help but ask, how did we stop corruption 109 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:34,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: convincingly? How was justice served? And how can we, in strengthening the respect for the rule of 110 00:15:34,460 --> 00:15:41,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: law, how can it be brought about by this delay in the disposition of corruption cases? 111 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:47,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Two small fish convicted in a corruption case spanning 21 years, 112 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:54,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: while big fish are seen and perceived as untouchable, unpunished, 113 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:03,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: absolved. In frustration, and in the context of our hearing today, one cannot help but ask, 114 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:11,670 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we are allocating 86 billion, or at least this is the proposed judiciary budget, 115 00:16:12,890 --> 00:16:23,570 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: while COA estimates about 1.7 trillion is lost annually to corruption. 116 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Matinding kakulangan o kawalan ng 117 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hustisya ito 118 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: laban sa 119 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: bawat Pilipinong 120 00:16:37,460 --> 00:16:41,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagbabayad ng buwis at bawat pamilyang 121 00:16:41,980 --> 00:16:43,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: wasak ang buhay 122 00:16:43,380 --> 00:16:48,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: na pinundar ng dugo, pawis at luha. 123 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:49,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa totoo lang, 124 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: simple lang ang katarungang 125 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hinihingi ng 126 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: karaniwang mga kababayan natin: 127 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: mabilis, 128 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: patas, 129 00:16:54,940 --> 00:16:56,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: abot-kamay 130 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at hindi takot sa mga 131 00:16:58,820 --> 00:16:59,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nasa poder 132 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:01,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: o sa malakas 133 00:17:01,220 --> 00:17:02,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang kapit, 134 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:02,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ika nga. Kaya kailangang 135 00:17:02,580 --> 00:17:03,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: gamitin ng hudikatura ang pondong 136 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:14,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pag-uusapan natin ngayon para ayusin ang sistema at mapabilis ang patas na justisya sa ating bansa. 137 00:17:15,620 --> 00:17:19,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi sapat na may naisampang mga kaso, hindi sapat na may iniimbestigahan, 138 00:17:20,460 --> 00:17:24,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kailangan may napapanagot, kailangan may nasa sentensyahan, 139 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: kailangan may habang buhay na makukulong sa kasong pandarambong. 140 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:42,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Internally, the judiciary must likewise watch and police its ranks of erring and unfit officials. 141 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There are rumors, unverified reports, stories shared about how cases are allegedly fixed, 142 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:58,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: freedom allegedly paid for, and money allegedly passed around. 143 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Whether true or not, 144 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:10,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the judiciary must do its share in ensuring that there is accountability for wrongdoing among its own. 145 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:18,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Inaasahan ng taong bayan ang mga hukom na kumikilos ng mabilis at tiyak, 146 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:24,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: makatarungan at walang kinikilingan na aayon sa due process at higit sa lahat 147 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:32,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: nagpapatunay na walang opisyal, kontraktor, o kaalyadong politiko ang exempted sa batas. 148 00:18:33,260 --> 00:18:36,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kung may dalang leptospirosis ang baha, 149 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:51,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: dapat din natin sugpuin ang kleptospirosis na dala ng dekadekadang kahinaan o hindi mabilis na katarungan sa ating bansa. 150 00:18:51,520 --> 00:19:02,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sa huli, ang tunay na sukatan ng justisya ay kapag mabilis, patas, at maayos ang sistema ng katarungan na, 151 00:19:03,260 --> 00:19:11,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: agad-agad na pinapawalang sala ang mga inusente at agad-agad ding napaparusahan ang may sala. 152 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:28,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At kapag nangyari na ito, dyan natin makikita ang tunay na respeto at takot sa long arm of the law at sa rule of law sa ating bansa. 153 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And if I may stress this representation, 154 00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:39,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: defended the judiciary budget last year, it is an honor and a privilege to be able to do the same this year. 155 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:49,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We are one in wanting our judicial system to be, if I may borrow the term of former Chief Justice Puno, 156 00:19:49,800 --> 00:20:00,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we want first world justice, but we should also fight for first world budgets to make sure that the judiciary can do its job effectively. 157 00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:05,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, we can now proceed. 158 00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:12,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Perhaps, if I understand it correctly, Justice Estoesta. 159 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:13,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor, good morning, Your Honor. 160 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:19,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: As we did in the last budget hearing, you have the floor for your presentation, please go ahead. 161 00:20:19,020 --> 00:20:26,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Good morning, Your Honor and distinguished members of the Senate and the guests present today and budget officials. 162 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: At the outset, allow us to 163 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: express our appreciation 164 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to the Honorable 165 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,480 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan 166 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for sponsoring 167 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and defending the judiciary's budget. 168 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: This is particularly meaningful to us 169 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:41,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because the good senator has always spoken of the rule of law, 170 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: good governance, accountability, and access to justice 171 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that cannot be achieved without a strong and independent judiciary. 172 00:20:49,460 --> 00:20:52,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: These are ideals that resonate deeply 173 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:56,120 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: with the judiciary's constitutional mandate and ethical values. 174 00:20:56,580 --> 00:20:59,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We share the belief that justice must not only be available, 175 00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:05,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it must be accessible, timely, credible, responsive, and independent. 176 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We are therefore grateful to the Honorable Senator Pangilinan 177 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for taking on the responsibility of sponsoring the judiciary's budget 178 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and for giving us the opportunity to demonstrate 179 00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:19,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: how these resources will strengthen the administration of justice. 180 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:21,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Good morning, Mr. Senator. 181 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:23,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you continue, Justice Estoesta, 182 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we'd like to place on record and acknowledge 183 00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:29,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the presence of our Senate President, Sherwin Gatchalian. 184 00:21:29,540 --> 00:21:32,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Good morning, Your Honor. 185 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Former Committee on Finance Chairperson, 186 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:37,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: would you have an opening statement, sir? 187 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:44,310 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. President, we beg the indulgence of Justice Estoesta. 188 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:48,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Maraming salamat, Chair Kiko. 189 00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:52,650 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Napakinggan ko po 'yung inyong opening statement 190 00:21:52,650 --> 00:21:55,290 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: sa sasakyan noong papunta po ako dito. 191 00:21:56,470 --> 00:22:01,210 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Unang-una sa lahat, we welcome our friends and our colleagues from the judiciary. 192 00:22:02,770 --> 00:22:07,490 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Lahat naman ho tayo dito ay nagtatrabaho para sa taong bayan. 193 00:22:08,270 --> 00:22:11,610 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Lahat naman ho tayo dito ay mga government employees. 194 00:22:12,610 --> 00:22:18,610 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At higit sa lahat, lahat naman ho tayo pantay-pantay ang gusto ho natin para sa minamahal nating bansa, 195 00:22:18,610 --> 00:22:25,790 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: na maayos at maibalik po ang tiwala ng taong bayan sa ating gobyerno. 196 00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:31,850 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Sang-ayon po ako sa ating Chairman na nasa crossroads ho tayo 197 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:32,650 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: pagdating sa tiwala. 198 00:22:32,770 --> 00:22:34,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Hindi na ho 199 00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:37,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Hindi na ho tinitingnan ng taong bayan 200 00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:43,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: kung ikaw ay congressman, senator, or judge, or justice, or mayor. 201 00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:48,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Tingin nila, buong gobyerno ay nawawala na po ang tiwala nila. 202 00:22:48,770 --> 00:22:55,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kaya nandito ho kami para mabigyan po ng suporta ang judiciary 203 00:22:55,770 --> 00:23:00,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: para po 'yung wheels of justice, 'yung gulong ng hustisya, 204 00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:01,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ay gumana 205 00:23:01,770 --> 00:23:02,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: at maging episyente. 206 00:23:02,770 --> 00:23:04,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Marami ho talaga tayong dapat ayusin 207 00:23:04,770 --> 00:23:08,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: at marami ho tayong dapat panagutin, 208 00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:13,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: lalo na dito po sa mga nangyaring corruption issues. 209 00:23:13,770 --> 00:23:18,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At hindi ho magiging kumpleto po itong pagbabalik ng tiwala 210 00:23:19,770 --> 00:23:24,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: kung isa sa ating mga sangay ng ating pamahalaan ay hindi po gagana. 211 00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:30,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kaya nandito ho kami para suportahan ho kayo. 212 00:23:30,770 --> 00:23:47,250 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Pero importante rin po na ang hanay natin ay masigurado natin ay gumagana at lahat po ay sumusuporta sa parehong adikain na maibalik po ang tiwala ng taong bayan sa ating gobyerno. 213 00:23:48,110 --> 00:23:50,370 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So with that, Chairman, maraming maraming salamat po. 214 00:23:50,370 --> 00:23:57,370 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senate President Win. We can now go back to Justice Estoesta. Go ahead, ma'am. 215 00:23:57,370 --> 00:24:17,910 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. Senate President. This is the first budget cycle being presented within the framework of the Fiscal Autonomy Act under RA 12233, which identifies the original budget proposal of the judiciary that has been attached, if not already incorporated in the National Expenditure Program. 216 00:24:18,030 --> 00:24:26,470 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So for SCPLC, from the offices of the Chief Justice and the Associate Justices of the Supreme Court and their personnel, and for the lower courts. 217 00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:43,890 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Speaking of 2,303 judges as of August 31, 2026, 28,805 court personnel as of August 30, 2026, we present a 22% increase or 15.66 billion of additional funding in the judiciary. 218 00:24:43,890 --> 00:24:52,670 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: If I may state so, Your Honor, in the 2026 GA'A Judiciary Budget, we have 70.611 billion. 219 00:24:52,670 --> 00:24:55,670 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So the 22.611 billion. 220 00:24:56,470 --> 00:25:05,950 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The 22% increase will account for a total of 86.271 billion pesos, the breakdown of which is as follows. 221 00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:19,130 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the Supreme Court of the Philippines and the lower courts, the proposed increase for this year is 73.837 billion or an increase of 13.347 billion, marking a 22% increase. 222 00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:26,130 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the Presidential Electoral Tribunal, from the GA'A 2026 of 179.87 million. 223 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:38,150 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We are now proposing for 2027, 193.43 million or an increase of 13.56 million, marking an increase of 8%. 224 00:25:38,150 --> 00:25:54,750 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the Court of Appeals, from the 2026 GA'A of 6.092 billion, we have a proposed increase of 7.605 billion or an increase of 1.513 billion, representing 25% increase. 225 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:56,310 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the Sandigan Bayan. 226 00:25:56,470 --> 00:26:11,930 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The 2026 GA'A reflected a 2.723 billion budget, which is now proposed to be 3.282 billion or an increase of only 559 million, representing an increase of 21%. 227 00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:26,090 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the Court of Tax Appeals, it is 1.127 billion, which we are proposing now to be increased to 1.354 billion or an increase of 227 million, representing an increase of 20%. 228 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:35,010 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So overall, Your Honor, 86.271 billion or an increase of 15.66 billion, 22%. 229 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:38,230 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: As a breakdown, Your Honor, allow us to do it. 230 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:59,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the Supreme Court of the Philippines and the lower courts, for the personal services, representing basically salary, wage upgrade and adjustment. 231 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It is an increase of 3.859 billion. 232 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the MOOE, it is 233 00:27:02,860 --> 00:27:05,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 3.246 billion. 234 00:27:05,420 --> 00:27:08,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: billion. 235 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:09,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But if we look at 236 00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:15,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But if we look at the capital outlay, Your Honor, there is a decrease of 3.758 billion. 237 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The decrease, Your Honor, will only account—it should not mean that we are scaling down the 238 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: judiciary's infrastructure or modernization program, because the decrease is principally 239 00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:30,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: attributed to a lower project cost estimation. 240 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And that is why we are doing this. 241 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:31,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you very much, Your Honor. 242 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 243 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:31,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 244 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:37,580 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for certain information technology projects of the MISO or the Management Information Systems 245 00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:42,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Office. So, following the continuing review and refinement of the project requirements, 246 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:47,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: specifications, and costing, the amount necessary to implement the projects will be determined to 247 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:53,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: be lower than the previous estimate as we continue to pursue the digital infrastructure requirements 248 00:27:53,140 --> 00:27:59,480 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of the judiciary. Now, Your Honor, it is interesting to note that with the budget 249 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: hearing before the Committee on Appropriations in the House of Representatives, 250 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the distinguished members of Congress were able to ask us about the newly 251 00:28:10,780 --> 00:28:17,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: created courts and if we have included the unorganized courts even without the NOSCA funding 252 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:23,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in our budget. We have said that we have not, Your Honor, and we were encouraged to include it now, 253 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honors, as a matter of augmentation. So, if we look at the request for augmentation, 254 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,460 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, for the 255 00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:35,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: judiciary, for the lower courts, to represent in particular the newly created courts even without 256 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: NOSCA in the amount of, for the Supreme Court, 3,992,618,200 representing a total of unorganized 257 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:57,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: courts, 135, and a temporary vacancy of, well, the temporary vacancy have already been funded. 258 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So, unorganized without, 259 00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:07,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: NOSCA is 135 courts, Your Honors. And then, as a, to be carried over with the other courts, 260 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:14,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, for the Court of Appeals, they're asking an augmentation of 96 million pesos, 261 00:29:15,340 --> 00:29:22,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Sandigan Bayan, 31 million, and the Court of Tax Appeals, 19,334,000, or a total request 262 00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:29,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for augmentation, 4,068,952,200. Yes. So, to move on, 263 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:36,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, for the Presidential Electoral Tribunal, we are asking for an increase of 264 00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:50,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 11.239 million, and for the MOOE, 2.320 million. For the Court of Appeals, Your Honor, 265 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:59,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: personal services, an increase of 522.731 million, MOOE of 849.167 million, and a capital 266 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:11,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: outlay of 140.890 million for the court of tax appeals sorry for the sandigan bayan your honor 267 00:30:11,420 --> 00:30:20,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: personal services there may be a reflected decrease in personal services of 27.659 million 268 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: but the reduction in personal services is not really a personnel cut but a technical adjustment 269 00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:31,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: arising from the recalculation of the actual personal requirements rather than a reduction 270 00:30:31,060 --> 00:30:36,580 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in the salaries or benefits of our incumbent incumbent personnel in the sandigan bayan but 271 00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:41,460 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we continue to fund the upgrading and reclassification of positions and the filing of 272 00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:47,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or the filling of vacant positions all right for the court of tax appeals your honors 273 00:30:47,500 --> 00:31:00,550 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we have personal services in the amount of 123.052 million mooe of 274 00:31:00,550 --> 00:31:03,030 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 43 275 00:31:03,030 --> 00:31:03,190 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 123 276 00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:04,490 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 123 277 00:31:04,490 --> 00:31:04,510 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 123 278 00:31:04,510 --> 00:31:05,210 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 208 279 00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:16,910 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 108.159 million but there again appears a decrease in the capital outlay of 4.528 million 280 00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:21,710 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the reason being your honor primarily attributable to the fact that the budget 281 00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:26,830 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: previously provided for the acquisition and installation of solar panels is no longer 282 00:31:26,830 --> 00:31:32,450 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: carried over into the current fiscal year now this only demonstrates that the overall increase 283 00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:34,490 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in the CTA's budget is being directed principally toward personal requirements 284 00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:35,710 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and the operational requirements of the court. 285 00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:37,270 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So in total, it is really not a decrease, Your Honor, 286 00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:49,350 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: which may violate the constitutional provision that resources cannot be decreased 287 00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:51,170 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: if gauged from last year's budget appropriation. 288 00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:55,470 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For our major final outputs, Your Honor, 289 00:31:55,470 --> 00:31:57,870 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or case disposition, the following slides 290 00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:04,310 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: represent disposition from the Supreme Court down to our first-level courts. 291 00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:14,110 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: From the data, many of our courts are already exceeding their disposal targets with accomplishment rates reaching 85% to 290%. 292 00:32:14,110 --> 00:32:28,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: With our first-level courts being our champions in case disposition, considering the volume of cases incoming and the 24-hour limit in the disposal of cases with the application of the rules and expedited procedures in the first-level courts. 293 00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:34,570 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The figures, however, Your Honor, only represent productivity and not the entirety of the performance. 294 00:32:35,050 --> 00:32:40,830 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Because under the SPJI, the Supreme Court has begun to pilot the high-performance courts framework. 295 00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:49,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Instead of just the number, it looks at internal processes, decision quality, court user satisfaction, and employee engagement. 296 00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:58,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: In that sense, the high-performance court, Your Honors, is the next evolution of our performance measurement from volume of output to decrement. 297 00:32:58,390 --> 00:33:01,450 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Quality and overall effectiveness of justice delivery. 298 00:33:01,910 --> 00:33:09,110 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So we are moving from measuring how much a court does to understanding how well a court delivers justice. 299 00:33:09,550 --> 00:33:26,890 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honors, also another important component of our effort to improve court performance, which will affect case disposition, is the continuing professionalization and decentralization of court administration through the Office of the Regional Court Managers, or ORCMs. 300 00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:28,170 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The objective is to... 301 00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:41,130 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Allow our courts to focus on their core mandate in the adjudication and disposition of cases, while administrative and operational requirements are increasingly supported through a dedicated court management structure. 302 00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:45,370 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So this directly supports our high-performance courts initiative. 303 00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:50,050 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: A high-performance court should not only dispose of cases efficiently. 304 00:33:50,510 --> 00:33:58,370 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It should have the administrative support systems that enable judges and court personnel to devote more of their time and attention to their primary... 305 00:33:58,390 --> 00:33:59,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: judicial functions. 306 00:33:59,390 --> 00:34:07,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Now, for our SPJI reforms, Your Honor, we likewise listed our milestones for our... for 2026. 307 00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:25,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honors, we have always invoked that the SPJI is our roadmap for transforming the judiciary, not only through technology, but through improvements in the way courts are managed, cases are processed, resources are administered, and services are delivered to the public. 308 00:34:25,390 --> 00:34:27,590 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: What we present in these slides are milestones of the SPJI reform. 309 00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:28,110 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you. 310 00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:30,930 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And now we would like to thank the Office of the Regional Court Managers for their holistic participation in this program. 311 00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:38,670 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: They demonstrate that the judiciary has already moved from planning to actual implementation across a broad range of areas. 312 00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:48,170 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: These initiatives include the eCourt PH, the eCourt, and the Philippine Judiciary Platform, which support the digitalization of court processes. 313 00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:56,290 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The AI system of voice-to-text transcription, which is listed as number one, which can assist in the preparation of transcripts and court records. 314 00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:57,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We likewise have the development... 315 00:34:58,110 --> 00:35:05,370 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of the ICT governance framework, the ICT strategic plan, cloud infrastructure, connectivity and data 316 00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:11,550 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: center capabilities which provide the technological backbone for these reforms. We are likewise 317 00:35:11,550 --> 00:35:17,130 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: building systems for financial management, human resource management, procurement, electronic 318 00:35:17,130 --> 00:35:22,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: payments, online learning and case and court facility management. These are important because 319 00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:28,710 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: modernization is not confined to what happens inside the courtroom because it also involves 320 00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:34,170 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: modernizing the administrative systems that support the courts. We are also developing 321 00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:40,090 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: initiatives that directly improve access to the justice system including the unified legal aid 322 00:35:40,090 --> 00:35:46,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: service portal, e-notarization and other online services for the bar and other justice sectors 323 00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:52,210 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: stakeholders. The significance of these initiatives, your honors, is that they are designed to cascade 324 00:35:52,210 --> 00:35:52,710 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: beyond the court system. We are also developing initiatives that directly improve access to the 325 00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:58,570 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Supreme Court and benefit the courts throughout the country. The objective is not to create 326 00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:04,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: isolated technological solutions but to build an integrated judiciary in which information, 327 00:36:05,170 --> 00:36:13,610 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: systems, processes and resources can support courts at every level. For our JSCC, your honors, 328 00:36:14,210 --> 00:36:19,590 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the flagship program of the JSCC or the Justice Sector Coordinating Council under the Justice 329 00:36:19,590 --> 00:36:23,970 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Convergence Program is the Justice Zone. At the local level, the JSCC is the justice zone. 330 00:36:23,970 --> 00:36:27,130 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: At the local level, the different pillars of the criminal justice system come together 331 00:36:27,130 --> 00:36:32,410 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to identify the actual causes of delay and inefficiency and develop coordinated 332 00:36:32,410 --> 00:36:38,090 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: locally responsive solutions despite the difference in our mandate. For now, your honor, 333 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:43,610 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we have developed 20 justice systems. We have Zambanga City, which we have declared the 334 00:36:43,610 --> 00:36:48,130 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: trafficking-free justice zone. We have Tagaytay City Justice Zone, which we have declared the 335 00:36:48,130 --> 00:36:53,850 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: economic development and tourism justice zone. We have Puerto Princesa or the green justice zone. 336 00:36:53,970 --> 00:37:01,170 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We have likewise Iligan, Ozamis, Cagayan de Oro, Tacloban or Moc and Calbayog as our anti-OSIAC 337 00:37:01,170 --> 00:37:08,010 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: justice zones or the online sexual exploitation of children justice zones. Another important 338 00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:12,890 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: initiative of the judiciary, your honors, is the establishment and strengthening of the Office of 339 00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:19,110 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the Judiciary Marshals pursuant to Republic Act 1169 or the Judiciary Marshals Act. The funding 340 00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:23,950 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: supports the development of a professional judiciary marshal organization with capability, 341 00:37:23,970 --> 00:37:30,370 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: judicial security and operations, investigation and intelligence, legal services and digital 342 00:37:30,370 --> 00:37:35,770 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: forensics. Its function includes threat assessment, investigation, forensic analysis, 343 00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:40,170 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: protection of court facilities and personnel, even their members of the families, 344 00:37:40,510 --> 00:37:46,750 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and ensuring that court proceedings are conducted in a safe and orderly environment. In our 2026 345 00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:53,250 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: GAIA, your honor, we were only allowed a budget of 710 million and we still need to fill in the 346 00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:53,950 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: vacancies of the plantilla, Your Honor. 347 00:37:53,970 --> 00:37:54,110 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So we are proposing a budget 348 00:37:54,110 --> 00:38:01,930 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: plantilia, your honor. So we are proposing a budget of 902 million 75 thousand pesos or an 349 00:38:01,930 --> 00:38:09,450 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: increase of 25, 27 percent. For the Philippine bar as an investment in the bar and in the legal 350 00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:14,850 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: profession and to improve the quality, efficiency, accessibility and integrity in the admission of 351 00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:20,550 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the profession, the Supreme Court holds the annual bar exams and the sharia special bar exams. 352 00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:23,930 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We are midstream now, your honor, in the current, 353 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:31,590 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: bar examinations having just conducted the second day of the bar exam yesterday uh for now your 354 00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:39,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Honor, for our 2026 GAA of 800— 355 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Good morning, Your Honor, Mr. Chair. 356 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,790 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before you proceed, we 357 00:38:43,790 --> 00:38:48,690 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: acknowledge the presence of the chairperson of the on of the committee on finance senator jv 358 00:38:48,690 --> 00:38:54,970 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: thank you for joining us uh senator jv uh do you have 359 00:38:54,970 --> 00:39:00,810 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: okay after the presentation we will give the floor to send the 360 00:39:00,810 --> 00:39:06,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: senator jv for his opening statement please proceed yes 361 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,970 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: good morning uh mr chair thank you 362 00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:14,470 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor so uh for the philippine bar examinations for 2025 and 2026 your honor 363 00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:18,590 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: uh just for the record the number of applicants that have applied to 364 00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:18,670 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: take the September 2026 bar 365 00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:27,530 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the september 2026 bar numbered 14 291 and we have developed 15 local centers local testing 366 00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:32,930 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: centers there are seven in the national capital region three in luzon three in visayas and two 367 00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:38,570 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in mindanao to make the testing examination more accessible to our bar examinees so 368 00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:43,750 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the bar examinees have not yet completed because we have one day 369 00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:48,570 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: remaining which is scheduled this sunday your honor for the sharia 370 00:39:48,570 --> 00:39:53,930 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: special bar exams your honor uh which was just concluded last may 24 and 27 371 00:39:53,930 --> 00:40:00,190 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the number of applicants numbered 1055 and we have developed four local testing centers 372 00:40:00,190 --> 00:40:11,830 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: one in ncr and three in mindanao 796 completed the exam and 235 examinees passed it or a total of 29.52 373 00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:19,630 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: percent for our halls of justice your honor the investment in hojs is intended to provide our 374 00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:23,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: courts with safe, secure, accessible 375 00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:25,870 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and functional facilities that are appropriate 376 00:40:25,870 --> 00:40:30,010 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for the administration of justice. This includes 377 00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:36,670 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: adequate courtrooms chambers offices waiting areas facilities for vulnerable litigants and spaces 378 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:42,570 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that support modern court operations for the judiciary therefore we have ongoing projects 379 00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:49,490 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: new construction or ongoing procurement with the back hoj we have identified 12 projects and 380 00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:55,630 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: management we have nine projects those undergoing general repair and rehabilitation we have 15 381 00:40:55,630 --> 00:41:01,350 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: ongoing procurement with the back HOJ we have nine implement project implementation and management 382 00:41:01,350 --> 00:41:07,950 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for refurbishment of office space we have seven ongoing procurement with back HOJ and for project 383 00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:15,070 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: implementation and management we have nine or a total of 34 ongoing procurement and 27 ongoing 384 00:41:15,070 --> 00:41:21,670 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: project management to break it down your honor if we would like to mention the courts that are 385 00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:27,910 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: affected in the ongoing procurement with the back HOJ we have repairs and rehabilitation in Angeles 386 00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:35,990 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: City, Bay City Negros Occidental, Bansud Oriental Mindoro, Barugo Leyte, Latinidad Benguet, Malinao 387 00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:43,250 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Aklan, Medina Misamis Oriental, Olongapo City, Oroquieta City Misamis Occidental, San Miguel 388 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:45,050 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Zamboanga del Sur, Taf 389 00:41:45,050 --> 00:41:53,410 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Samar, Tarangan, Tam Samar, Villaba Leyte, Wow Lanao del Sur and all HOJs in regions 390 00:41:53,410 --> 00:42:03,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: eight I'm sorry nine ten and the Caraga region or all in all 15. Those undergoing new construction 391 00:42:03,390 --> 00:42:09,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor but still undergoing procurement we have in Barasca Tanduanes, Benito Soliven, 392 00:42:09,730 --> 00:42:13,890 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Kandihay Bohol, Imus Cavite, Lawag City, 393 00:42:14,430 --> 00:42:15,010 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Legaspi, 394 00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:22,310 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: City Family Court, Lucena City, Quezon, Masbate City, Masbate, Puerto Princesa City, Palawan, Sagay 395 00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:30,250 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Negros Occidental, San Pablo City, Laguna and Virac Catanduanes or a total of 12 HOJs. For 396 00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:37,210 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: refurbishment or still undergoing procurement we have seven projects located in Bogasong Antique, 397 00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:44,850 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Binan, Laguna for regional trial courts 152 up to 155, Danau City, Cebu, Lingayen, Pangasinan, 398 00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:59,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: San Pedro, Laguna particularly regional trial court branch 171, Tandag City, Surigao Del Sur, Ubay, Bohol Family Court II under a deed of use of pra. 399 00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:10,170 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Those ongoing project implementation, Your Honor, we have 27 projects. These are midstream through construction. We have Bacolod City, Negros Oriental, 400 00:43:10,170 --> 00:43:13,670 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Bangaga, Davao Oriental, Balangiga, Eastern Summer, 401 00:43:14,170 --> 00:43:17,010 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Bambang, Nueva Vizcaya, Bogos City, Cebu, 402 00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:20,390 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Bulan, Sorsogon, Cadiz City, Negros Occidental, 403 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:25,050 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Caloocan, Dimataling, Zamboanga del Sur, 404 00:43:25,170 --> 00:43:28,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Dumaguete City, Dumalinao, Zamboanga del Sur, 405 00:43:28,890 --> 00:43:31,590 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Guagua, Pampanga, Gitan, Eastern Summer, 406 00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:33,970 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Iloilo City, First and Second Level Courts, 407 00:43:34,270 --> 00:43:35,050 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: especially now. 408 00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:35,630 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 409 00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:38,910 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No need to go through each of them. 410 00:43:38,910 --> 00:43:45,570 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anyway, you can give a few and then we can proceed to the next. 411 00:43:46,210 --> 00:43:46,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 412 00:43:46,930 --> 00:43:47,610 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Most of them. 413 00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:49,110 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The next 44. 414 00:43:49,490 --> 00:43:49,790 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. 415 00:43:50,770 --> 00:43:54,550 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Just to show that we are moving with our infrastructure projects, Your Honor. 416 00:43:54,690 --> 00:43:55,590 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. 417 00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:57,950 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: If we can move to the JBC, Your Honor. 418 00:43:58,310 --> 00:43:58,690 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, please. 419 00:43:58,710 --> 00:44:03,190 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It is really important now since it is part of our request for augmentation 420 00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:08,150 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to open up even unorganized courts without the NOSCA, Your Honor. 421 00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:08,270 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 422 00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:18,970 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So that will be a total actually of 489 organized and unorganized courts 423 00:44:18,970 --> 00:44:23,090 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that needs to be filled in, Your Honor. 424 00:44:23,550 --> 00:44:29,350 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So for the year, the Judicial and Bar Council has declared its performance 425 00:44:29,350 --> 00:44:30,890 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of next stage. 426 00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:34,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It requires a lot of process, Your Honor, and you would know that, Mr. Chair, 427 00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:37,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because it is not just receiving the application, 428 00:44:38,270 --> 00:44:42,370 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of these interested applicants, but they undergo a lot of screening process 429 00:44:42,370 --> 00:44:46,370 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: from the first deliberation to interview, psychological evaluation, 430 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:49,090 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: second deliberation, and then the final deliberation. 431 00:44:49,470 --> 00:44:54,570 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So for the year, fiscal year 2025, the number of nominees that were processed 432 00:44:54,570 --> 00:45:00,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or applications processed is 5,971, and the number of nominees, 1,000. 433 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 1,127 that were shortlisted. And it was increased for the year 2026 to the number of applications 434 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:16,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: processed, 9,793. The number of nominees shortlisted, 1,983, Your Honor. If we move on 435 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to the educational arm of the Supreme Court, which is the Philippine Judicial Academy, Your Honor, 436 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:27,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the accomplishment rate from our core programs, special focus programs, conventions and seminars, 437 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:37,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we have a total of 52 for trainings, programs and activities, and a total participants of 8,466 438 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:43,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: judges and court personnel. You would see, Your Honor, the next slide that much of our 439 00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:50,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: digitalization is working on, because most of our activities are done asynchronously rather than in 440 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: person, so that it likewise reaches out to members of judges and court personnel who are 441 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in the court. 442 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: In the Luzon, Visayas, Mindanao, because the main headquarters of the Philippine Judicial Academy 443 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:09,120 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: is in Tagaytay or in Luzon. So that's about it, Your Honor. That is our budget presentation. 444 00:46:09,860 --> 00:46:10,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you. 445 00:46:10,220 --> 00:46:17,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Justice Esto Estac. We now give the floor to our chairperson of the Committee on 446 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Finance, Senator JV. Go ahead. 447 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:25,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning. Good morning to our Senate President. 448 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:25,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Magandang umaga po sa inyong lahat. 449 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Good morning to our Vice Chair, Senator Francis Pangilinan. Of course, to our respected distinguished 450 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:39,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: associate justices of the Supreme Court, presiding justices and associate justices of our appellate 451 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and specialized courts, court administrators, colleagues in the Senate, and all our esteemed 452 00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:49,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: guests present today, we fully recognize and uphold the judiciary's vital role as an independent 453 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: co-equal branch of government. As such, for the judiciary to remain fully, truly independent and 454 00:46:56,060 --> 00:46:57,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: perform its constitutional mandate. 455 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:57,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It 456 00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:03,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: must have sufficient control over its resources. This is why we supported the 457 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:10,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: enactment of Republic Act No. 12233 or the Judiciary Fiscal Autonomy Act. The proposed budget of 458 00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:18,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the judiciary for the fiscal year 2027 marks the very first year of the implementation of this law. 459 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:25,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: While we advocate the judicial independence, our basic principle is still we want to ensure that 460 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: every peso invested in our justice system directly reduces trial bottlenecks, 461 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:55,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: modernizes our courthouses and delivers swift, accessible justice to every Filipino. I look forward to a very productive discussion today, Mr. Chair. We are very much in full support of the judiciary. 462 00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:01,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya maraming-maraming salamat po. Thank you very much for being here. 463 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senator JV. We now give the floor to our 464 00:48:04,580 --> 00:48:08,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: senate president for his questions go ahead uh 465 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: thank you mr chairman well first uh of all um 466 00:48:12,980 --> 00:48:21,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: let me um commend the judiciary for uh an efficient use of your budget uh so looking at 467 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:28,680 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: uh one of the things that we measure uh the different agencies the utilization of the budget 468 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:36,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and for 2024 it's 98 percent in 2025 it's 99 percent 469 00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:45,720 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: goes to show that um not only efficient but 470 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:48,580 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: um in some cases 471 00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:50,380 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: especially in 472 00:48:50,380 --> 00:48:50,840 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: yes 473 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,180 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: uh 474 00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:58,100 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the lower courts or the courts near to our constituents so i just want to ask um 475 00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:05,840 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because i was looking at the uh accomplishment rates and uh a lot of the accomplishment rates 476 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,820 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: are past a hundred percent so 477 00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:13,920 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ibig sabihin sobra ho sila sa target nila. But on the ground, whenever I go around, especially in cities, 478 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:23,020 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ah may mga courts talaga na ang isang court ang hawak nilang kaso napakadami, no? So may uneven 479 00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:51,940 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in other words and even po yung case load ng mga judges natin i would assume in the provinces it will be much lower therefore the accomplishment rate is much faster or higher yes but in the cities especially in areas commercial areas i would assume that the case load is higher so yes um do we have any data to show ano po yung average case loads ng mga 480 00:49:53,020 --> 00:50:19,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: lower courts natin in um first level courts and and second level courts um then let's divide them into cities and also into municipalities because we cannot compare apples to apples the same case for classrooms um normally here in metro manila it's always uh congested but in the provinces um it's not congested but when you look at system wide 481 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: mukhang walang problema 482 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: no because the 483 00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:22,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: classroom 484 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:24,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ratio is low 485 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in the same case with 486 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,600 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: case loads i would assume that in the cities 487 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,900 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: matataas mo no so we 488 00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:31,460 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: can we have um 489 00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:34,440 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: um information that on that 490 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because my next question will be 491 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: are there 492 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: lgus or areas wherein we 493 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: need to add more courts 494 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,100 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: no uh alam nyo 495 00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:46,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ang paborito pong batas 496 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,100 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ng mga mambabatas 497 00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:49,460 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is magdagdag ng courts 498 00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:51,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: no kahit na walang kailangan 499 00:50:51,620 --> 00:50:52,500 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: na court 500 00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:53,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: yes po 501 00:50:53,080 --> 00:51:12,660 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: diba ganun talaga eh um kaya pag minsan pag um i'm sure sa committee on justice marami yan and uh we notice lang na some of the areas hindi naman kailangan ng courts but may may no it's a it's a bragging right eh no so do we have yes so that we will be guided accordingly and be rational in approving the loss 502 00:51:12,660 --> 00:51:20,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: mayroon ba tayong matrix that for example this area we need more courts because the case load is higher um do we have that data 503 00:51:20,620 --> 00:51:20,900 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: um 504 00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:23,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: While we are getting the data, Your Honor. 505 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:52,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you for asking. But I can particularly point because this one really comes from me personally in uh in the our courts in das marinas your honor for one we have actually written uh the uh we have written uh the house the house of representatives to create more courts or branches in the regional trial court of das marinas for the simple reason that as of july 31 20 26 your honor the pending cases are 6 567 506 00:51:52,780 --> 00:51:56,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: cases and the judges or number of branches are only 507 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:22,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: they're only less than just a minute your honor i i forgot because we just visited them a month ago that's why we wrote uh the the the house of representatives to create uh more branches and uh family courts other than the fact that they are situated in a very small area and we now plan to transfer them to another one but it's still ongoing uh uh assessment 508 00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:40,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor but we are about to move them out to make the uh to deliver better services and to make our judges feel that it is a dignified court your honor um for the bottleneck or the constraint will be the area yes the land yes 509 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: i think 510 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:51,840 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: um just submit to the committee uh just divided to divided to municipalities and to cities where 511 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,120 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: more 512 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:52,560 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: i think 513 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:52,760 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: i think 514 00:52:52,760 --> 00:53:01,440 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: i'm more uh interested looking at the caseload per per sala or caseload per judge in the cities 515 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:11,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: especially in um highly urbanized city because there are a lot of businesses there a lot of businesses 516 00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:17,680 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and obviously if there are such transactions there are some we cannot avoid but there are 517 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: issues that are emerging unless you have it now but if not you can just submit it to the committee 518 00:53:22,540 --> 00:53:25,440 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: submitted to the committee so we'll be guided accordingly 519 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: yes sir we do not have the data now 520 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:33,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: if it is per city your honor but we will submit the data uh per your requirement to reach an 521 00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:40,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: acceptable level of caseload per judge how much do we need for a level court uh ideal number is 522 00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:46,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 300 your honor and for a second level court it's 500 but as it is your honor our judges handle 523 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:52,380 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: more than that particularly in the uh ncjr region your honor but just to give you a 524 00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:57,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: ballpark figure on or if it is an overall our second level course your honor a total of their 525 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:06,460 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: pending cases um is 376 926 sometimes we cannot shake off the outflow and the inflow of cases 526 00:54:06,460 --> 00:54:14,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because what's coming in will be 226 263 other than those that are revived and reopened which 527 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:22,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for the for january to december 2025 your honor amounted to 79 084 and this is just the rtc 528 00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:31,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for first level courts your honor it is uh it's uh more volume if we look at our mtc mtccs mtcs and 529 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:42,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: mctc so that's uh for december 31 2024 pending it's 572 250 cases and as of december 31 2025 530 00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:51,960 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it only got lower by a little 519 356 because those ruffled were 449 294 531 00:54:52,380 --> 00:55:00,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and those revived or reopened 210 981 so there's actually even if we try to accomplish more by 532 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:08,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: targeting um the the case disposal over the target case disposal and the actual case disposal and 533 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: multiplied by 100 it will still be uh the disposition the disposition rate will still 534 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:21,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: be lower or for january to december 2026 for all courts your honor disposition rate is 56 percent 535 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:31,670 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: accomplishment rate is 142 percent very quickly how do you reconcile the accomplishment and the 536 00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:32,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: disposition 537 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:38,450 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: yes your honor percentages 56 is the is the disposition rate your honor but the 538 00:55:38,450 --> 00:55:45,190 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: accomplishment rate is 142 because the accomplishment rate your honor uh takes into 539 00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:52,030 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: consideration total case disposal over target case disposal and multiply it 100 whereas this 540 00:55:54,590 --> 00:55:58,030 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: total case disposal over total case input your honor 541 00:55:58,030 --> 00:56:08,820 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Are there, um, are there courts na thousands pa ang hinahawakan ng isang judge? 542 00:56:08,820 --> 00:56:09,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. 543 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Other than the one in Dasma, would you like to— Meron ba tayong mga ganyan? 544 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:19,120 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Kasi if the prescription is 300 per judge, I think this is for RTC. 545 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:19,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: yes your honor 546 00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:25,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: um the mtc is your honors i have the expedited procedure which really helped them a lot 547 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,380 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because every time they dispose of those falling under the rules on expedited procedure 548 00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:35,480 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: especially small claims which is which actually accounts that uh the volume of the cases filed 549 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:41,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: before the first level courts they have 24 hours to dispose so they have more disposal than the 550 00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:46,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: second level courts but there are really uh flag we can really flag certain areas of 551 00:56:46,180 --> 00:56:53,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: regional trial courts that have more than a thousand cases pending cases um we we do not 552 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: have the data again, Your Honor, but from my experience, 553 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,540 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: other than Dasmariñas, that will be Cabuyao, Laguna. 554 00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:00,580 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We just had the judicial audit. 555 00:57:00,580 --> 00:57:01,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So many persons deprived of liberty. 556 00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:04,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I've already talked to 557 00:57:04,860 --> 00:57:07,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the judge concerned. He actually resigned, 558 00:57:07,220 --> 00:57:11,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, as of August 31 559 00:57:11,980 --> 00:57:15,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because of health problems. He's facing a lot of 560 00:57:15,940 --> 00:57:20,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: health concerns, and it's really next to impossible that he handles all 5,000 cases, 561 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and he's the only one court in Cabuyao, Laguna, Your Honor. 562 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 5,000 cases. 563 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:25,960 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 5,000 plus. 564 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,260 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Magre-resign talaga yung... 565 00:57:27,260 --> 00:57:28,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Magre-resign po siya. 566 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:28,660 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Oo, wala. 567 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Nagkasakit na po siya. Kaka-opera lang po niya. 568 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,880 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So my point of the matter is, mayroon ba tayong study? 569 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,860 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Just to make it a, doon sa benchmark na na-mention nyo. 570 00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:44,500 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yes, pa. 571 00:57:44,780 --> 00:57:50,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: How much do we need in terms of investment so that we can lower down? 572 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,020 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Obviously, the approach is to build more courts, to hire more judges. 573 00:57:55,020 --> 00:58:02,720 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But do we have an estimate on how much do we need that in order to reach an acceptable level of caseload? 574 00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:14,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If I may just, before you answer, if I may add, if you say ideal for first-level courts is 300 and for second-level courts is caseload of 500, 575 00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:24,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if that is your ideal ratio or number, how much do you need to... 576 00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:33,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In terms of creating more courts to reach this 300 ratio or 300 per court or 500 per court. 577 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's probably, yeah. 578 00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:37,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because that's what we want to happen. 579 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:51,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You're asking for an additional 5 billion, but if we want to know what do you need to reach this ratio so that we have an idea in terms of... 580 00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:55,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Actually, Your Honor, although no study, no formal study has been conducted, 581 00:58:55,020 --> 00:58:56,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it is more into the system. 582 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:02,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: That is why high-performance courts are being piloted because it is not just in the number. 583 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,960 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It is in the processes that are being made. 584 00:59:05,300 --> 00:59:10,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It's in the digitization of the records and it's in the satisfaction of our external stakeholders. 585 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Likewise, the engagement of our personnel. 586 00:59:13,780 --> 00:59:18,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Are they happy working so that it flows out from them, Your Honor? 587 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: That's the present study that we're doing. 588 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Although we will, because of your encouragement, Your Honor, 589 00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:27,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we will conduct a study on that one. 590 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:33,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: How much budget we need, is the answer really in creating more courts 591 00:59:33,260 --> 00:59:38,380 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or is it in systematizing our processes, modernizing our systems or both? 592 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because, for example, in the challenge for education, 593 00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:47,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: very clear, we have a backlog of 65,000 classrooms. 594 00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:50,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So then we do the math. 595 00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:53,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you have a backlog of 65,000 classrooms, 596 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how much do you need? 597 00:59:55,020 --> 00:59:56,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How much do you need to produce that? 598 00:59:56,540 --> 00:59:59,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So in the same vein, what is your backlog? 599 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of creation of courts in the area 600 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that we have a figure as to, therefore, 601 01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:09,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how much will it cost in terms of personnel, 602 01:00:10,140 --> 01:00:14,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of infrastructure, and your first world budget. 603 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is your first world budget that we will aspire for? 604 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:25,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe we should have a five-year, ten-year catch-up plan program 605 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: so that our chairman of the Committee on Finance 606 01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:30,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is very particular about infrastructure. 607 01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:36,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So the infrastructure requirement so that we achieve that for the judiciary. 608 01:00:37,820 --> 01:00:40,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But if it's not yet available… 609 01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:44,120 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Submit it to the committee so that we'll be guided. 610 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:51,340 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So that we'll know the universe or a target that we will work on moving forward. 611 01:00:52,220 --> 01:00:52,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 612 01:00:53,660 --> 01:00:54,020 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you. 613 01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,820 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But are there many cases of 5,000 per judge? 614 01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:57,700 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Are there many cases like that? 615 01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,080 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'm sorry. 616 01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I can also think of Antipolo, Your Honor. 617 01:01:01,980 --> 01:01:03,680 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Did you increase the health insurance? 618 01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:06,880 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Is the salary of 5,000 more? 619 01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:08,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Unfortunately, no. 620 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe we should triple the hazard pay. 621 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, may D.C. A. Lillian Baripalco be recognized because she has the data. 622 01:01:21,140 --> 01:01:22,540 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Your Honors, good morning. 623 01:01:22,860 --> 01:01:25,280 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Based on the records of the Court Management Office, 624 01:01:25,380 --> 01:01:27,180 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: of the Office of the Court Administrator, 625 01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:28,500 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: the pending cases, 626 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:31,000 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: as of July 31, 2026, 627 01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:34,220 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: just to answer our courts, 628 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,700 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: there are more than 1,000 cases. 629 01:01:38,260 --> 01:01:42,100 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: For example, we have Banguet-Abra, 1,210. 630 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,840 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Banguet-Bagu City, 2,281. 631 01:01:46,420 --> 01:01:50,620 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: We have one in Aguola-Union, 1,109. 632 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,580 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Then we have in Dagupan City, Pangasinan, 2,751. 633 01:01:55,580 --> 01:01:58,340 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: San Carlos City, Pangasinan also. 634 01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,500 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: 1,300. 635 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,820 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: 1,007 for Urdaneta City, Pangasinan. 636 01:02:05,060 --> 01:02:07,060 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: 2,000, Mark. 637 01:02:07,060 --> 01:02:11,180 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: 2,300 in Tugayarao City, 638 01:02:11,180 --> 01:02:13,680 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: although this is an aggregate for our stations 639 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:20,260 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: which has 2 or 3 RTC-S Courts. 640 01:02:20,260 --> 01:02:24,160 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: So, Ilagan-Isabela, 1,700. 641 01:02:24,580 --> 01:02:26,600 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: 1,500 in Santiago City. 642 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,320 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: We have one in . . . 643 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,260 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: in Bayumbong, 1,300. 644 01:02:32,220 --> 01:02:37,260 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Balanga also has a higher caseload of 1,600. 645 01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:39,320 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: We have a very... 646 01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:43,140 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Although Malolo City, your owners have many RTCs, 647 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,320 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: but they have 10,700 aggregate number of caseload. 648 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How many RTCs in Malolo? 649 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,660 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: In Malolo... 650 01:02:51,660 --> 01:02:53,560 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: RTCs in Malolo. 651 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,580 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: RTCs in Malolo. 652 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,680 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: We'll get the number, your owners. 653 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,320 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: In Cabanatuan City, 2,600. 654 01:03:01,780 --> 01:03:03,540 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Gapan, 2,300. 655 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,780 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: If we're going to divide this on the number of RTCs, 656 01:03:06,980 --> 01:03:12,820 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: this will be more than the 500 our wish for average caseload. 657 01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:17,900 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Then we have Angeles City, almost 4,000 658 01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:21,060 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: for the entire RTC of Angeles City. 659 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,200 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Then we have Tarlac City, 2,500. 660 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,200 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: And we have another one in... 661 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:34,900 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: In Region 4, Bacoor, your owners, 4,745. 662 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,340 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: And what has been mentioned by the court administrator in Dasmariñas, 663 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,240 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: your owners, 6,567, 664 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,300 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: with only three regional trial courts. 665 01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:46,780 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Yes. 666 01:03:49,940 --> 01:03:51,280 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: 567, your owners. 667 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:56,020 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: With only three RTCs existing. 668 01:03:56,580 --> 01:03:57,620 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Three RTCs. 669 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,560 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Three RTCs and four MTCCs. 670 01:04:03,020 --> 01:04:04,580 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: Divided by three courts. 671 01:04:05,060 --> 01:04:06,200 Deputy Court Administrator Lilian C. Barribal-Co: It's 500. 672 01:04:06,580 --> 01:04:07,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So if it's three... 673 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just to place it on record, Mr. President. 674 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Six, five, six, five, 675 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: divided by 500, because it's RTC, right? 676 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So you have to have 13 additional courts. 677 01:04:22,980 --> 01:04:23,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Right? 678 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Ideally. 679 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:25,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Ideally. 680 01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:25,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ideally. 681 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:25,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ideally. 682 01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:27,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's what we want. 683 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:28,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At least. 684 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In terms of the universe of what we're working around. 685 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that we can put together the strategy, 686 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 10 years, 7 years, to catch up. 687 01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:41,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Right? 688 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At least we know what's going on. 689 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Imagine that, 13 additional courts for Dasmariñas to reach 500. 690 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We have a pending letter on that, your honor, 691 01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:56,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: submitted to the House Speaker. 692 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:57,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Mr. President. 693 01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just a little bit. 694 01:04:59,400 --> 01:04:59,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How many? 695 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 10,700. 696 01:05:01,820 --> 01:05:02,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How many RTCs? 697 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anyway, if you get it, please. 698 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead. 699 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:07,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You have the floor. 700 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:09,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you. 701 01:05:09,340 --> 01:05:19,760 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Just submit to the committee and study on enriching that ideal number of caseload per judge or per court. 702 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,680 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: How much will it cost? 703 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,080 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Maybe we can have a program moving forward. 704 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And if I may just add... 705 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Mr. President, 706 01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:32,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you know, they're asking, 707 01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:34,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the budget is 86 billion, 708 01:05:34,900 --> 01:05:37,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but our entire national budget 709 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is 6.7, 7.2 trillion. 710 01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:43,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Isn't it? 711 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's like... 712 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:45,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: One person. 713 01:05:47,140 --> 01:05:48,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Less than one percent. 714 01:05:48,940 --> 01:05:51,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And it's a co-equal branch. 715 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you very much, Your Honor. 716 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: A third of the... 717 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So if you want... 718 01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: One percent, right? 719 01:06:00,260 --> 01:06:01,140 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman, 720 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: if you look at the other side, 721 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,560 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: it's also the litigants. 722 01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:06,420 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Imagine the litigants, 723 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: it's a long wait 724 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,220 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: before their cases are to be heard. 725 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,440 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Because if you're talking about 726 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: one judge holding 5,000 cases, 727 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: there are only 365 days in a year. 728 01:06:20,820 --> 01:06:22,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: It's a long wait. 729 01:06:22,540 --> 01:06:24,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: It's a long wait. 730 01:06:24,260 --> 01:06:25,420 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So it's really... 731 01:06:25,420 --> 01:06:27,520 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We really need to look at this angle 732 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,220 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because if you... 733 01:06:28,220 --> 01:06:34,120 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: If we're not to make the wheels of justice turn faster, 734 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,560 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: then we need to also invest. 735 01:06:36,380 --> 01:06:39,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I may also add, again, the big picture, 736 01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:44,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in education, in agriculture, in infrastructure, 737 01:06:44,860 --> 01:06:48,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: there is a correlation between the ideal percentage 738 01:06:48,860 --> 01:06:51,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of GDP for expenditures. 739 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Would we have that for the judiciary? 740 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I'm not sure. 741 01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:57,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But I think there would be some... 742 01:06:58,220 --> 01:07:00,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: international benchmark 743 01:07:00,620 --> 01:07:04,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of how much the justice system in other countries 744 01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:06,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of GDP is being spent. 745 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because then that should be, again, 746 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: a benchmark that we should target moving forward. 747 01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:17,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So if we can also have that information 748 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: from the court administrator, 749 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:20,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it would help us. 750 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: As we defend the budget on the floor, 751 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we will say in other countries, 752 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: this is the percent of GDP 753 01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:29,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that goes to the system of justice. 754 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:30,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course, we will have to combine 755 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the DOJ and the judiciary. 756 01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:36,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But still, if you can separate it, even better. 757 01:07:37,540 --> 01:07:38,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sorry. 758 01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:42,120 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for that. 759 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,900 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We'll just wait for that study 760 01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:46,080 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and some basic statistics 761 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,780 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: so that we can be guided accordingly. 762 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:50,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 763 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I just have some items in the budget 764 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: that I saw... 765 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,020 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: There's a lot of decrease. 766 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,300 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: This is a locally funded project. 767 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 768 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: From 9 billion last year 769 01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:09,900 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: to about 2.4 billion this year. 770 01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:11,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And there are two items 771 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,940 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: that decreased substantially. 772 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,460 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Construction, completion, 773 01:08:16,820 --> 01:08:20,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and or repairs of halls of justice 774 01:08:20,060 --> 01:08:22,600 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: from 2.6 to 200 million. 775 01:08:23,380 --> 01:08:25,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then also strategic plan 776 01:08:25,540 --> 01:08:26,920 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: for judicial innovations 777 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,900 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: from 5%. 778 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,180 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: From 5.1 billion to 600 million. 779 01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:35,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Is there any particular reason? 780 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,100 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Obviously, we're talking about 781 01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:38,780 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the construction of halls of justice. 782 01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:40,860 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: It's counterintuitive 783 01:08:40,860 --> 01:08:43,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: that we need to construct, 784 01:08:43,780 --> 01:08:47,700 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: but the funds for the construction 785 01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:50,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: of halls of justice have been reduced. 786 01:08:50,940 --> 01:08:52,300 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And then the other one 787 01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:54,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is strategic plan for judicial innovation 788 01:08:54,620 --> 01:08:58,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: from 5.1 to 600 million. 789 01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:58,900 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: From 5.1 to 600 million. 790 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,260 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Maybe we know the reason 791 01:09:01,260 --> 01:09:03,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: why these two programs 792 01:09:03,980 --> 01:09:05,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: under the locally funded projects 793 01:09:05,980 --> 01:09:08,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: went down substantially. 794 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:10,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 795 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the HOJ construction, 796 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, 797 01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:16,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: although our budget reflected 798 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in the 2026 GAAC, 799 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: a budget of 2,688,606,000, 800 01:09:22,860 --> 01:09:26,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it is because the construction 801 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that we have 802 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for the Manila Hall of Justice 803 01:09:28,860 --> 01:09:29,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: was not included. 804 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Instead, what we have 805 01:09:31,420 --> 01:09:34,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or what we've computed 806 01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:35,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: as the escalation cost. 807 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But for Cebu 808 01:09:39,660 --> 01:09:41,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and Cagayan de Oro construction, 809 01:09:42,260 --> 01:09:43,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we have proposed an increase, 810 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: actually, in the original budget proposal, 811 01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:47,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 200 million total. 812 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, I have to admit 813 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that we were really being conservative 814 01:09:51,060 --> 01:09:53,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in that because considering, 815 01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:55,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: recognizing that the fiscal envelope 816 01:09:55,740 --> 01:09:57,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: is really limited and finite, 817 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we needed to, 818 01:09:58,860 --> 01:10:02,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to really limit the budget 819 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to 200 million. 820 01:10:03,660 --> 01:10:04,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But it so happened, Your Honor, 821 01:10:05,060 --> 01:10:05,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: if I would, 822 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: with Your Honor's permission, 823 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for the Cebu construction 824 01:10:11,980 --> 01:10:13,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of the judiciary complex, 825 01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:15,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the consulting services 826 01:10:15,660 --> 01:10:17,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: already submitted the required diet 827 01:10:17,780 --> 01:10:20,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: just last August 5, 2026. 828 01:10:20,860 --> 01:10:23,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And it made the project now ready 829 01:10:23,620 --> 01:10:27,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for bidding for the works. 830 01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:28,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So when we, 831 01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:30,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: when we became conservative 832 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and simply added 100 million for Cebu 833 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and 100 million for the judiciary complex 834 01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:35,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and CDO, 835 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we realized that we should have 836 01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:40,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: increased it or augmented it, 837 01:10:40,660 --> 01:10:42,120 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: which is why we included it now 838 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in our request for augmentation 839 01:10:43,660 --> 01:10:46,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to reflect the construction escalation cost 840 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: insofar as Cebu is concerned. 841 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But we are still conservative 842 01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:53,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: insofar as CDO is concerned, Your Honor, 843 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because the diet has not yet been submitted. 844 01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:58,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And then to continue, Your Honor, 845 01:10:58,060 --> 01:11:00,120 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: with the SPJI innovations, 846 01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:04,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we have a total in the 2026 GA'A for SPJI, 847 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: supposedly 5,159,275,000. 848 01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:11,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It was decreased to, 849 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:17,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it went down because the proposal is just 641,059,000. 850 01:11:17,820 --> 01:11:20,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The decrease is due to the reclassification 851 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of recurring SPJI-related expenses 852 01:11:22,780 --> 01:11:25,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: from 2026 SPJI 853 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because of the intangible, 854 01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:27,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the intangible, 855 01:11:28,060 --> 01:11:30,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: assets outlay from CO, 856 01:11:30,980 --> 01:11:33,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it now went to MOOE 857 01:11:33,140 --> 01:11:35,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because these are now recurring expenses. 858 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:36,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For instance, Your Honor, 859 01:11:36,940 --> 01:11:37,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in our subscription, 860 01:11:38,620 --> 01:11:39,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: so the recurring, 861 01:11:39,620 --> 01:11:41,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the non-recurring were no longer repeated. 862 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So it's a matter of recomputation 863 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and reprogramming, Your Honor. 864 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But it does not mean that we are scaling down 865 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: our infrastructure projects. 866 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 867 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,480 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: The SPJI, 868 01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:55,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: if I understand it correctly, 869 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,600 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: these are for, 870 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Ah, yes. 871 01:11:58,060 --> 01:12:00,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: For judicial innovation. 872 01:12:00,340 --> 01:12:00,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 873 01:12:01,060 --> 01:12:01,800 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Digitalization. 874 01:12:03,060 --> 01:12:03,740 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Digitalization. 875 01:12:04,220 --> 01:12:04,580 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 876 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,100 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: These are mostly, 877 01:12:08,020 --> 01:12:09,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: if I'm not mistaken, 878 01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:12,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: for efficiency, 879 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:13,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: accessibility, 880 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:14,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: and accountability. 881 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,540 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Efficiency, innovation, 882 01:12:16,820 --> 01:12:17,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and access, Your Honor. 883 01:12:17,860 --> 01:12:18,180 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Access. 884 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I have actually 39 projects 885 01:12:20,020 --> 01:12:21,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that I can mention right now 886 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:22,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: just to support them. 887 01:12:22,620 --> 01:12:24,760 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: These are basically information technology. 888 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:25,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 889 01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:27,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The heart of the SPJI. 890 01:12:28,060 --> 01:12:32,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So from a locally funded project, naging ano na siya? 891 01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:33,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Opo, MOE na po. 892 01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:34,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: MOE na siya? 893 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:34,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, for your honor. 894 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,520 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Regular project na siya? 895 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor. 896 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,940 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: All right, I understand. 897 01:12:38,940 --> 01:12:54,800 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And the Halls of Justice, the decrease from 2.6 billion to 200 million, I heard you earlier that you would also request for augment. 898 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor. 899 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,240 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Bakit siya bumaba? Ang laka ng binaba? 900 01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Almost 92%. 901 01:12:59,420 --> 01:13:10,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Last year po kasi nag-appear po ang tatlong big ticket projects namin, Manila City Hall, the Court of Appeals and the Halls of Justice in Cebu and Cagayan de Oro. 902 01:13:11,260 --> 01:13:23,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Pero now for this year po, naging conservative, ang sinama lang po namin ay ang Cebu at ang Cagayan de Oro, tapos 200 million pesos lang po ang in-increase po namin. 903 01:13:23,740 --> 01:13:26,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: When we realized that we actually should have augment. 904 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:27,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Augmented it. 905 01:13:28,460 --> 01:13:28,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Opo. 906 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: The Manila Hall of Justice? 907 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:32,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor. 908 01:13:32,060 --> 01:13:33,460 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Tapos na ba yan? Parang matagal na yan. 909 01:13:33,460 --> 01:13:34,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Not yet, your honor. 910 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:39,520 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Parang bago pa akong senador, naririnig ko na yan eh. 911 01:13:39,580 --> 01:13:41,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: There's a lot of story there, your honor. 912 01:13:41,260 --> 01:13:41,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Opo. 913 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:57,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It's more technical, your honor, making it project ready, but there is a lot of technical aspect involved on why there was a delay. 914 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:07,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But as of now, we're trying to fast-track it because there's already a committee by members, by the honorable members of the Supreme Court to fast-track it. 915 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:08,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And we are making it, your honor. 916 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:17,180 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Three years na ginagawa itong, kung first term mo di, matagal na yan eh. 917 01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:25,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Hopefully po the DAED will be approved soon because we're really fast-tracking it, your honor. 918 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I come from RTC. 919 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: RTC Manila, your honor. 920 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:34,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And even Deputy Court Administrator Nelda Montes is an RTC Manila judge. 921 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And during that time, we were looking forward to the construction of the Manila. 922 01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:39,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Twenty years, ah. 923 01:14:39,980 --> 01:14:41,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Meron ng 20 years? 924 01:14:41,060 --> 01:14:41,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Meron na po. 925 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:47,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Kasi last, your honor, if I may, the last groundbreaking was last 2012 po. 926 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ta'y dad, Judge of the Senate President. 927 01:14:51,180 --> 01:14:52,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi daddy ko dating mayor. 928 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Alam ko parang nakailang groundbreaking na yan eh. 929 01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:56,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Panay groundbreaking. 930 01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:59,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So just with indulgence of our Senate President. 931 01:15:00,020 --> 01:15:08,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, the Cagendi Oro and Cebu, you asked for 100 million each, but the Manila will still be deferred? 932 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, because the DAED is still in the works, Your Honor. 933 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:17,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You don't think we can start it by next year? 934 01:15:17,700 --> 01:15:20,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because it's a long overdue, Mr. President. 935 01:15:20,380 --> 01:15:33,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's why, if ever, with all the requirements fulfilled, we would want to support because it can help decongest. 936 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:40,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because Manila and Cebu and Cagendi Oro, these are the main cities. 937 01:15:40,620 --> 01:15:47,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, that's it. In case, I just saw that it was deferred. 938 01:15:47,580 --> 01:15:50,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because, as you said, 939 01:15:50,380 --> 01:15:55,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it's been a year since the first year of Senator Kiko. 940 01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:58,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, that's it. Thank you, Mr. President. 941 01:15:58,480 --> 01:15:59,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 942 01:16:00,020 --> 01:16:04,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Just for the record, Mr. Chair, there is actually an earmarked budget already for Manila City Hall. 943 01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:07,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the Manila Hall of Justice. 944 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Sorry, I said Manila City Hall. I heard you or me. 945 01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:13,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honors. 946 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,820 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Hi, Senators. 947 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,920 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: I was a first-time counselor in 1992. 948 01:16:19,580 --> 01:16:20,160 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: And we had our... 949 01:16:20,380 --> 01:16:22,140 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Our first groundbreaking. 950 01:16:22,140 --> 01:16:27,000 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: It was during the time of Mayor Lim and I was part of it. 951 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:34,620 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: And after almost 25 years, we have yet to see the building being constructed. 952 01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:38,560 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Now, but we're pushing with the diet. 953 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:45,900 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: We can be almost finished with it by the end of the year, as promised by the Building Committee. 954 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,700 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: So, if we can put it additional... 955 01:16:50,380 --> 01:16:52,400 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Funding for the Manila. 956 01:16:52,940 --> 01:16:58,760 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: And as much as the Chair of the Committee, Senator J.V. 957 01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:04,920 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: His father is a long two-term, three-term mayor of the city of Manila. 958 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:05,460 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: That's true. 959 01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:12,760 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Although, I haven't met Mayor Erap, but I've always been there during his time. 960 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,820 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: So, I hope we can get some funding. 961 01:17:16,540 --> 01:17:18,440 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Because that's the capital city. 962 01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:23,280 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: And I show up to the rest of the world. 963 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,600 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: And... 964 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Justice. 965 01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:28,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Imagine, you're a Supreme Court Justice. 966 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:29,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes. 967 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You're a counselor. 968 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:31,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You're a counselor. 969 01:17:32,060 --> 01:17:33,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You're an MTC, an RTC. 970 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:35,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Groundbreaking. 971 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You're 30 years old. 972 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You're correct, Mr. Chair. 973 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Manila is the capital city. 974 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And it should be the showcase of governance. 975 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,040 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Yes, even for foreigners. 976 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,420 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: I'll ask questions later. 977 01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:49,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Later than my time then. 978 01:17:49,820 --> 01:17:51,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: What caused the delay and all. 979 01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:52,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 980 01:17:52,820 --> 01:17:53,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. 981 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:58,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And to inform Justice Lopez, I was also a city councilor of Quezon City in 1992. 982 01:18:00,180 --> 01:18:00,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. 983 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:01,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We're together. 984 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, until now, I'm a senator. 985 01:18:05,540 --> 01:18:06,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You're a justice. 986 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe by the end of the year, it will be groundbreaking and it will continue. 987 01:18:13,660 --> 01:18:15,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Senate President. 988 01:18:15,460 --> 01:18:17,560 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman, I'll avail of the second round. 989 01:18:17,780 --> 01:18:18,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So that we... 990 01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:21,520 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So that the chairman can pursue his questions. 991 01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:24,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. President. 992 01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:27,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Anyway, good morning. 993 01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:28,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Good morning to all of you. 994 01:18:29,820 --> 01:18:36,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Just like what I have, I received a letter from the DBM. 995 01:18:38,260 --> 01:18:44,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The first copy of the comment on your proposed 2037 budget, section 3 of RA 12233. 996 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:45,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Here it is. 997 01:18:45,940 --> 01:18:47,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: They're recommending a budget ceiling of 77. 998 01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:54,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 77 billion, which leaves 9 billion, 9.17 billion gap from the judiciaries. 999 01:18:54,580 --> 01:18:59,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Your proposal is 86 billion, 86.37 billion. 1000 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:04,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, of course, the basic questions I would like to ask, which specific program or projects 1001 01:19:04,700 --> 01:19:10,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: will strongly be affected of this 9.17 billion difference? 1002 01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:16,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Maybe the DBM, because of the judicial... 1003 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Autonomy. 1004 01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:22,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Maybe this is the last chance for them to comment or to intervene. 1005 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: You know, the DBM, if they can reduce it, they will reduce it. 1006 01:19:26,260 --> 01:19:29,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But because of the low fiscal ceiling also this year. 1007 01:19:30,220 --> 01:19:37,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, specifically, what are the major programs and projects that will be affected by the 1008 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 9.17 billion difference? 1009 01:19:40,740 --> 01:19:44,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, because we're really banking on three factors, Your Honor. 1010 01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:46,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Our people, system, and infrastructure. 1011 01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:55,460 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So, if we decrease it by 9 billion, definitely in our people, our plans to upgrade, reclassify 1012 01:19:55,460 --> 01:20:00,380 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the salaries of our people will be affected. 1013 01:20:00,980 --> 01:20:04,460 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And most of our personnel, Your Honor, have not had the salary increase. 1014 01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:09,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And because there's no really point of them being promoted, because there's no such thing 1015 01:20:09,940 --> 01:20:10,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in the courts, Your Honor. 1016 01:20:10,940 --> 01:20:16,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: If you come in as a utility, the only chance that you can become as that salary grade one, 1017 01:20:16,860 --> 01:20:17,460 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that the only chance... 1018 01:20:17,820 --> 01:20:21,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The only chance that you can be promoted as a process server, considering the qualification 1019 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: standards that you can, which is SG2, will be second to none. 1020 01:20:25,780 --> 01:20:30,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Because most of the time, we are really awaiting for the retirement of most members of our 1021 01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:31,300 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: people. 1022 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:36,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So, if we decrease the infrastructure, can you imagine, Your Honor? 1023 01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:41,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I mean, I cannot even say that our courts are beyond dignified in the image. 1024 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We really have to do a lot of... 1025 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Especially, Your Honors, the fact that most of our buildings are 20 years and older. 1026 01:20:47,820 --> 01:20:52,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: With the calamities that have been happening, we've been going around, our buildings are 1027 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:53,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: old and do need... 1028 01:20:54,440 --> 01:21:00,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: They need rehabilitation, repairs, and a lot of, if not, demolition, Your Honor. 1029 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: HOJ in Iloilo, Your Honor, I'm not even sure, but it has been vacated. 1030 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:06,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It has been condemned. 1031 01:21:07,020 --> 01:21:08,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It was retrofitted. 1032 01:21:09,820 --> 01:21:15,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, but most of our judges do not feel safe anymore to go back, which is why we had to 1033 01:21:15,020 --> 01:21:17,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: relocate them to another one, to another building. 1034 01:21:17,820 --> 01:21:23,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I don't know if it's coincidence, but in Iloilo, when there's a flyover, there's a lot of 1035 01:21:23,540 --> 01:21:23,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: people. 1036 01:21:24,980 --> 01:21:26,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Then, the Hall of Justice, that's new. 1037 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:32,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Then, it's already unfit for occupancy. 1038 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: There's a need to retrofit again. 1039 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The flyover that was like a rollercoaster, it was retrofitted. 1040 01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:39,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: It's new. 1041 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Now, it's being retrofitted again. 1042 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mr. Chair, I would like to... 1043 01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:45,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: What's the name of the DBM? 1044 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:46,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Oh, yeah, please. 1045 01:21:46,300 --> 01:21:46,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: With your indulgence. 1046 01:21:46,820 --> 01:21:47,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: With your indulgence. 1047 01:21:47,820 --> 01:21:57,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, some things, the Manila Hall of Justice proposal, what are the causes of delays? 1048 01:21:57,540 --> 01:22:07,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'd just like to ask that the Hall of Justice in Manila is again delayed because the 1.918 1049 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:12,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: billion second year funding, supposedly, for the Manila Hall of Justice. 1050 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, what are the causes of delays? 1051 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: When do you expect the construction to resume? 1052 01:22:18,860 --> 01:22:19,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's what I mentioned earlier. 1053 01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:23,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, what are the bottlenecks? 1054 01:22:23,500 --> 01:22:28,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And I think this is more than 26 years overdue now, or 20... 1055 01:22:28,660 --> 01:22:31,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's right, 30 years already. 1056 01:22:32,140 --> 01:22:37,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Justice Lopez said, 1992, when the first groundbreaking took place. 1057 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:38,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, go ahead, ma'am. 1058 01:22:39,860 --> 01:22:41,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 1059 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Mr. Chair, the Department of Budget and Management has already... 1060 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The Department of Budget and Management has already... 1061 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The Department of Budget and Management has already... 1062 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:50,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Submitted its comment, but for the record, we have not yet received, formally received 1063 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:50,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: a copy of the same. 1064 01:22:50,860 --> 01:22:52,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So, we have not even read it. 1065 01:22:52,460 --> 01:22:57,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But to answer your honor's question, your honor, on what caused the delay in the Manila 1066 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:04,120 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Hall of Justice project, your honor, I do know that there was already an awarded contractor 1067 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: way back in, before I... 1068 01:23:07,340 --> 01:23:12,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I was still an art regional trial court judge, your honor, but it was complicated by a technical 1069 01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:15,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: mathematical computation, your honor. 1070 01:23:15,140 --> 01:23:24,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Which way, the honorable Supreme Court had to terminate the contractor, the works that 1071 01:23:24,860 --> 01:23:31,360 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: was already procured because of that error. 1072 01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:36,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So, the diet consultant was terminated, and then we had to repost it again. 1073 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We had two failed biddings. 1074 01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:44,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And then now, it was only the second semester of 2024 that a consulting certifying... 1075 01:23:45,140 --> 01:23:49,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: was engaged and is about to submit the DAED, Your Honor. 1076 01:23:50,260 --> 01:23:54,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So it is not an ordinary construction project, Your Honor. 1077 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:59,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So we really have to make it ready, especially make it disaster resilient 1078 01:23:59,060 --> 01:24:02,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: with all the natural calamities that we are experiencing. 1079 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So may pag-asa pa naman na before matapos ang term is NKCO ulit. 1080 01:24:05,980 --> 01:24:06,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes po, sana po. 1081 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At yung bago mag-retirement na si Associate Justice Joseph Lopez, 1082 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: may tayo na itong Manila Hall of Justice. 1083 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:16,480 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 1084 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:17,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sana naman, no? 1085 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:26,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We know we have a very limited fiscal space, but I think Manila is our capital. 1086 01:24:26,620 --> 01:24:28,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Hindi naman natin pwede pabayaan. 1087 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tama kayo kanina sa Mr. Chair. 1088 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: May Manila and then Cebu and then Cagandioro, no? 1089 01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:33,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Opo. 1090 01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:38,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, and then also, next is yung pong acquisition. 1091 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Meron pa silang ano na, para lang alam nyo po yung selector, 1092 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:41,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: nandito. 1093 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:49,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Noted that the court is asking for a 314 million for the acquisition of 100 units of motor vehicles. 1094 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:56,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, may we know how many of the 100 units will be allotted to the courts? 1095 01:24:56,420 --> 01:24:57,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Or paano pong paggagamit nito? 1096 01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:06,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: For what I know kasi, swerte na Mr. Chair kasi yung yung mga more affluent LGUs, no? 1097 01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:08,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: They support the improvement of the courts. 1098 01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:11,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: They provide the vehicles to the judges. 1099 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And the other needs of the courts and some personnel. 1100 01:25:16,980 --> 01:25:24,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, ito po ang, ito po ang, so what is the distribution of the 100 units? 1101 01:25:25,620 --> 01:25:33,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kasi pinapanon na, they also note, they also mentioned ito pong request the 300 million for vehicles. 1102 01:25:37,020 --> 01:25:38,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 1103 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, specifically. 1104 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:45,300 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Specifically, for Supreme Court lang ito. 1105 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We can, Your Honor, I do not have the data for all courts. 1106 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:51,380 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Can we just submit the same, Your Honor? 1107 01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:52,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, please. 1108 01:25:52,500 --> 01:26:00,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But basically, the 340 vehicle acquisition will be part of the reflating program of the Supreme Court, Your Honor. 1109 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:01,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ah, it's for the Supreme Court. 1110 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:02,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, po. 1111 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Supreme Court and also the appellate courts, Your Honor. 1112 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:07,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Appellate courts, okay. 1113 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because, I know for a fact like, 1114 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:16,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the Makati, the Reacher, they provide vehicles for the judges, diba? 1115 01:26:16,700 --> 01:26:21,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Pero although hindi lahat, minsan kalahati lang, suerte-suerte yan din sa Manila. 1116 01:26:21,620 --> 01:26:24,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, this one is for the Supreme Court and the appellate courts. 1117 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:31,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Sa lower courts po kasi, Your Honor, basically, it's through the generosity of the local government units 1118 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: who would provide for the service vehicles. 1119 01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:39,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, I think for the cities, yung may first class municipalities, no problem. 1120 01:26:39,900 --> 01:26:40,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: They can support. 1121 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:41,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The courts, no? 1122 01:26:42,140 --> 01:26:48,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We know for a fact kasi, our Senate President, I myself, for mayors, and we were able to establish, no? 1123 01:26:48,460 --> 01:26:50,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: With the, yung RTCs already. 1124 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Like, in San Juan, meron kami sarili and we support, no? 1125 01:26:53,240 --> 01:27:01,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The LGU supports and I think Valenzuela and the bigger cities, especially Makati and Manila, no? 1126 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:10,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Although, yung iba kalahati-kalahati lang na po-provide nila because ang dami rin RTCs in the big major cities. 1127 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:21,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung pong programs, no, that was mentioned by our chair and our Senate President, yung tumpo to sa cold congestion at lahat 1128 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:27,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and the need for us to have a catch-up plan, so to speak, for the infrastructure. 1129 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: I'm very much particular with that. 1130 01:27:30,380 --> 01:27:36,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We're hoping that if you can provide us, sana masimula na po natin in 2027, no? 1131 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So that we can already address the problem of the backlogs, no? 1132 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kaya nga. 1133 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:50,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: If it's digitalization, if it's computerization, and if it's a combination of both infrastructure, 1134 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:57,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi binabanggit niyo po yung kaninang hawak ng mga cases, of course, 5,000, 6,000, that's quite a lot, no? 1135 01:27:58,580 --> 01:28:03,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, if you please let us know so that we can already start with the catch-up plan. 1136 01:28:04,300 --> 01:28:07,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And we cannot, ano, it was noted by our chair also. 1137 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Nakung tutuusin yung 7 billion. 1138 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 7, 70 billion budget is just a drop, no? 1139 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kung pag-asa 7 trillion, 1%. 1140 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:18,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Diba? 1141 01:28:19,220 --> 01:28:25,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And this is already a co-equal branch in charge of administering justice, no? 1142 01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:31,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, yun po, can you provide us in case yung pong catch-up plan nyo, if ever, 1143 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: so that we can address these problems of the backlogs already? 1144 01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:40,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We will work on it, Your Honor, because we have our own Statistics Records Division in the Supreme Court, 1145 01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:41,540 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: who can do that. 1146 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you very much, Your Honor. 1147 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:48,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And likewise, yun sa ano na lang, nabanggit ko na rin po yung case backlogs and long-pending cases. 1148 01:28:48,260 --> 01:28:52,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: First of all, I'd like to congratulate the Judiciary for the improved disposition of cases. 1149 01:28:52,780 --> 01:28:59,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We took note that the Regional Trial Court recorded the highest number of resolutions decisions in 2025, 1150 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:06,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: while the Judiciary generally exceeded its 2025 targets for resolutions and case dispositions. 1151 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Performance remains uneven across courts. 1152 01:29:09,180 --> 01:29:09,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: The Supreme Court... 1153 01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:15,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ...posted a disposition rate of only 23% against its target of 38%, 1154 01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:22,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: while the CTA achieved 56% against its 79.8%, 1155 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:30,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and the Sardigan Bayan also processed only 1,587 cases against a target of 5,640. 1156 01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:37,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, just the basic questions, what are the main factors behind the performance gaps and continuing case backlogs? 1157 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:39,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: More importantly, how will we... 1158 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:47,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How will the proposed 2027 budget specifically address these bottlenecks and translate into faster disposition of cases? 1159 01:29:47,660 --> 01:29:52,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: That's why I asked, as Chairman of the Committee on Finance, of course, I would like to augment, 1160 01:29:52,780 --> 01:29:58,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kasi pinapabawas akin ng DBM, but if we will be able to improve... 1161 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: address ito po mga backlogs nyo 1162 01:30:02,140 --> 01:30:03,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and catch up, 1163 01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: then we would gladly 1164 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: look for, masigit ma'am, 1165 01:30:07,660 --> 01:30:09,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: fiscal space natin, we'll gladly look for other 1166 01:30:09,940 --> 01:30:12,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: sources so that we can 1167 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:12,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: even augment. 1168 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Of course, this is administration of justice. 1169 01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yun na po. Siguro po. 1170 01:30:17,540 --> 01:30:18,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Please ma'am. 1171 01:30:18,740 --> 01:30:20,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you po, Mr. Chair, your honor. 1172 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Unang-una po, napakalaking 1173 01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:26,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: effect po 1174 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:28,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: kung ang policy po 1175 01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:30,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: ng ating ICT, 1176 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: yung governance framework po natin 1177 01:30:32,060 --> 01:30:32,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: at ng 1178 01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:35,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: plano po na magtayo po ng 1179 01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:38,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: electronic courts or what we call 1180 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the e-courts. Ang e-courts po kasi 1181 01:30:40,220 --> 01:30:41,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: mag-establish po ng infrastructure. 1182 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: How an ideal court will look like. 1183 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So lahat na po yan, digitalized. 1184 01:30:46,660 --> 01:30:48,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But we cannot say that 1185 01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:50,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: nag-cascade na po yan sa lahat 1186 01:30:50,140 --> 01:30:52,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: kasi pinapilot po. But that 1187 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: is where the budget will really come in. 1188 01:30:55,480 --> 01:30:56,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We need 1189 01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:58,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to procure not just 1190 01:30:58,180 --> 01:31:00,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: ICT or laptops 1191 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or ICT equipment. It's the 1192 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: program and the software itself, 1193 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor. And other than that, 1194 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:07,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it is into 1195 01:31:07,820 --> 01:31:09,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: developing a system on how to make 1196 01:31:09,980 --> 01:31:11,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: our courts highly 1197 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: performing. So nasa pag-develop 1198 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:14,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: din po ng system. 1199 01:31:15,380 --> 01:31:17,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So we're in the digitalization. 1200 01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:20,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Midway, your honor. We're hoping. 1201 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because some other courts, sad to say, 1202 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: talagang records 1203 01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:25,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with all of those. Talagang 1204 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: fire hazard na eh. 1205 01:31:27,420 --> 01:31:27,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes. 1206 01:31:28,180 --> 01:31:29,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So that's good. We will 1207 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,100 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: gladly help and support. 1208 01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:33,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: At least we can improve a better 1209 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: environment for the disposition 1210 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,000 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of justice. Thank you so much, 1211 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: your honor. So what measurable 1212 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: improvements in disposition rates 1213 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and case processing can Congress expect 1214 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: from the additional resources 1215 01:31:45,860 --> 01:31:48,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with the digitalization? Ma'am, can you 1216 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: expect that? Can we expect that 1217 01:31:50,260 --> 01:31:51,180 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it will 1218 01:31:51,180 --> 01:31:54,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: case in? Your honor, if 1219 01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we follow the parameters followed 1220 01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:57,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: by our high performance courts, 1221 01:31:58,180 --> 01:32:00,540 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that we have developed our internal 1222 01:32:00,540 --> 01:32:03,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: processes by digitalization and 1223 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: our external stakeholders are happier 1224 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and our people are happy and 1225 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,480 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: then there are electronic 1226 01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:11,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: courts, then, your honor, we 1227 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,480 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: can meet even if we if let's 1228 01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:15,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: say a Dasmariñas court will be handing 1229 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 5,000 case records. 1230 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: If we follow all those parameters, 1231 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I think we can meet the disposal 1232 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: target of by 1233 01:32:23,900 --> 01:32:26,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: by 80% or even 90%. 1234 01:32:28,180 --> 01:32:31,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Probably, ma'am, 1235 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:31,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: justice, 1236 01:32:33,220 --> 01:32:33,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ito pong 1237 01:32:33,980 --> 01:32:36,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: DBM probably 1238 01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:38,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: looked, noticed 1239 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that yung kasi may 22% 1240 01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:42,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: increase in 1241 01:32:42,440 --> 01:32:44,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the judiciary budget from 1242 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: for 2027 compared to 1243 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2026. So siguro 1244 01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:49,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ito yung reason why 1245 01:32:49,780 --> 01:32:52,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: they are, ito yung 1246 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: last chance to intervene 1247 01:32:54,300 --> 01:32:55,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung pong kanilang 1248 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:57,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 9 billion na, 1249 01:32:58,180 --> 01:33:00,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: but I think if it will be 1250 01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro, just 1251 01:33:02,500 --> 01:33:04,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: anyway, if can be 1252 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: justified naman yung 22%, 1253 01:33:06,860 --> 01:33:07,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of course, yung pong 1254 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: by giving us that picture 1255 01:33:10,900 --> 01:33:12,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung the backlogs and all, 1256 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we really have to 1257 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: do something about 1258 01:33:16,820 --> 01:33:18,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: this. Last point, Mr. Chair, 1259 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: before I, siguro, just 1260 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: avail of the second round as well so that 1261 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: our Senate President can 1262 01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:26,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: continue with this questioning also. 1263 01:33:26,980 --> 01:33:27,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Your personnel, sir, 1264 01:33:28,180 --> 01:33:29,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: personal services and 1265 01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:30,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: unfulfilled positions, 1266 01:33:31,380 --> 01:33:32,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: how will the Supreme Court 1267 01:33:32,620 --> 01:33:35,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: accelerate recruitment and appointment to fill 1268 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 12,827 1269 01:33:37,660 --> 01:33:39,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: vacancies given that manpower shortages? 1270 01:33:40,580 --> 01:33:41,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Directly, probably, 1271 01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it may have affect our 1272 01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: directly affect our 1273 01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:47,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: poor congestion and trial 1274 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:48,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: delays. So 1275 01:33:48,740 --> 01:33:50,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: can we, ano, can we 1276 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ito pong ating pong, ano, can we address 1277 01:33:53,460 --> 01:33:55,280 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: yung ating pong 12,800 1278 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:56,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: vacancies? 1279 01:33:57,220 --> 01:33:58,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, sir. 1280 01:33:58,180 --> 01:34:00,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Since with the number of 1281 01:34:00,020 --> 01:34:02,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: vacancies and the filling in of positions, 1282 01:34:02,380 --> 01:34:04,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor, which is why it is 1283 01:34:04,260 --> 01:34:06,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: part of our SPJI initiative 1284 01:34:06,440 --> 01:34:08,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: to create the regional 1285 01:34:08,340 --> 01:34:10,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: court managers so that eventually, 1286 01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:12,300 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor, when our records and 1287 01:34:12,300 --> 01:34:13,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: our 201 files can now 1288 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,300 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: be shared with 1289 01:34:16,300 --> 01:34:18,300 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: our regional court managers, we can make our 1290 01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:20,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: selection processes in the regional 1291 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: level and that will accelerate 1292 01:34:22,260 --> 01:34:24,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and facilitate the appointment processes, 1293 01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:26,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor. And if 1294 01:34:26,420 --> 01:34:28,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that happens, your honor, madali na pong ma- 1295 01:34:28,180 --> 01:34:29,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: punan lahat po ng bakante 1296 01:34:29,900 --> 01:34:32,300 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: sa korte. And of 1297 01:34:32,300 --> 01:34:33,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: course, we're only talking about the court personnel 1298 01:34:33,900 --> 01:34:36,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because the judges will have to 1299 01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:37,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: undergo the JBC screening 1300 01:34:37,980 --> 01:34:40,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: process and the appointment is by the 1301 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,360 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: president of the Philippines, 1302 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:43,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor. Again, ma'am, 1303 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: talayin ko na rin po as the court administrator, 1304 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,060 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the event flag for her 4.47 1305 01:34:48,060 --> 01:34:50,120 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 4.47 billion 1306 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:51,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: requests for reclassification 1307 01:34:51,940 --> 01:34:54,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of positions and 608 1308 01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: million for the creation 1309 01:34:56,020 --> 01:34:58,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of new positions. So were you able to 1310 01:34:58,180 --> 01:35:00,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: submit the formal resolutions 1311 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to DBA before adding the funding for 1312 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: these compensation adjustments 1313 01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:05,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: in your budget? 1314 01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:06,120 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor. 1315 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:07,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Actually, your honor, we have 1316 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: projected the cost, but 1317 01:35:09,780 --> 01:35:11,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the process mapping and the 1318 01:35:11,740 --> 01:35:13,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: plantilla review is now ongoing and being 1319 01:35:13,940 --> 01:35:15,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: fast-tracked because we have a 1320 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: committee for that purpose, of which I 1321 01:35:17,900 --> 01:35:19,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: am a member, your honor. And we have 1322 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: a lot of proposal already. 1323 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Actually, the Sandigan Bayan has 1324 01:35:23,900 --> 01:35:25,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: just submitted its 1325 01:35:25,140 --> 01:35:28,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: consult, how do you 1326 01:35:28,020 --> 01:35:28,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: call it, the 1327 01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: report submitted by 1328 01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:33,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: its consultant. And so far, it's 1329 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,820 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: reorganization and the plantilla 1330 01:35:35,820 --> 01:35:37,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: is concerned, your honor. And we intend to 1331 01:35:37,860 --> 01:35:39,460 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: take its footsteps 1332 01:35:39,460 --> 01:35:41,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and to be able to review our own processes, 1333 01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:43,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor. I'm sorry, our own 1334 01:35:43,620 --> 01:35:45,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: upgrading and reclassification. 1335 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:54,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Tapos yung 1336 01:35:54,820 --> 01:35:56,980 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: proposed budget, there's 1337 01:35:56,980 --> 01:35:58,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a 4.09 billion for 1338 01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: optional retirement. 1339 01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, do we have 1340 01:36:02,700 --> 01:36:03,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: already a 1341 01:36:03,900 --> 01:36:06,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: projection on how many would 1342 01:36:06,540 --> 01:36:06,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: avail? 1343 01:36:08,660 --> 01:36:10,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor, 1344 01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:12,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: because we require 1345 01:36:12,620 --> 01:36:14,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: our judges and court personnel who 1346 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: would avail of an optional 1347 01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:18,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: retirement to file it at an indicated 1348 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: time, which is January 1349 01:36:20,020 --> 01:36:22,540 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of each year, so that it can be 1350 01:36:22,540 --> 01:36:24,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: included in the budget. So, we do 1351 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: have a projected amount for it, 1352 01:36:26,660 --> 01:36:28,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor. Thank you, po. 1353 01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:30,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Actually, as Chair of Finance, 1354 01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:32,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just like, you know, we're 1355 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: very concerned with the budget utilization 1356 01:36:34,860 --> 01:36:36,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and unused appropriations. 1357 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: But I think, as mentioned 1358 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:40,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: by our Zed President, you have 1359 01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: a very good utilization rate. 1360 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:43,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Ang kakulong. 1361 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: With that, Mr. Chair, I would 1362 01:36:46,660 --> 01:36:48,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just like again to ask later on. 1363 01:36:50,220 --> 01:36:50,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you. 1364 01:36:50,860 --> 01:36:51,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you very much, your honor. 1365 01:36:51,940 --> 01:36:55,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senator JV. 1366 01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:56,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We go back to the Senate President. 1367 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:57,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No, no, go ahead. I will 1368 01:36:57,780 --> 01:37:00,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: let you exhaust. 1369 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,640 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: A few more 1370 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: items, Mr. Chairman. 1371 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you for your generosity 1372 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:07,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: with time. 1373 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:11,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll go to the 1374 01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,260 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Sandigan Bayan 1375 01:37:12,260 --> 01:37:15,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because I saw in 1376 01:37:15,060 --> 01:37:19,080 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the budget 1377 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,300 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: analysis that 1378 01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:23,340 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: of course, we have now 1379 01:37:23,340 --> 01:37:23,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the 1380 01:37:23,980 --> 01:37:27,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Judiciary Autonomy 1381 01:37:27,060 --> 01:37:29,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Law or Fiscal Autonomy 1382 01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Law. And I saw 1383 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:32,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in the 1384 01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,560 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: DBM recommendation 1385 01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: that was 1386 01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,000 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: given to us. 1387 01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:42,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ang proposal nila 1388 01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:43,540 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is to even reduce 1389 01:37:43,540 --> 01:37:46,000 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the Sandigan 1390 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,800 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Bayan budget by 1391 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,920 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 500 million, 550 1392 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,820 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: million, which is, I think, 1393 01:37:51,940 --> 01:37:53,600 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: personally, Mr. Chairman, is 1394 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:55,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: counterintuitive of what we 1395 01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:56,560 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: want to do. 1396 01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,720 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Because the focus now, actually, 1397 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:00,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is on the Sandigan 1398 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,660 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Bayan. In fact, 1399 01:38:02,780 --> 01:38:05,260 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: we should support the Sandigan 1400 01:38:05,260 --> 01:38:07,380 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Bayan more rather than 1401 01:38:07,380 --> 01:38:09,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: reduce its budget 1402 01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:10,640 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because they need to 1403 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,380 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: capacitate 1404 01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:15,300 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: themselves, make 1405 01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:16,660 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: themselves more efficient, 1406 01:38:17,740 --> 01:38:18,600 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: get more 1407 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:22,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: manpower to support the 1408 01:38:22,980 --> 01:38:24,800 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: voluminous cases that are being 1409 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,140 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: filed in the Sandigan. 1410 01:38:27,140 --> 01:38:28,460 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So I don't 1411 01:38:28,460 --> 01:38:30,940 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: subscribe to the recommendation, 1412 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:35,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the recommendation of the DBM to reduce it by 551 million. 1413 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:50,500 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: It's hindi tama yung oras at hindi tama yung timing na gagawin natin yan dahil nga napakadami, nakita naman hoon natin sa news ang daming cases sa finafile. 1414 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:58,840 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Dapat pa nga dagdagan para po masuportahan at makahabol ng mas mabilis ng paglilitis. 1415 01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:00,940 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So with that, 1416 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:02,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mr. Chairman, I just want to manifest that. 1417 01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:04,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And 1418 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I also saw in the Sandigan, 1419 01:39:07,340 --> 01:39:09,120 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: this is just an item that I 1420 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,300 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: want to ask in the Sandigan 1421 01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:13,360 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: budget. There's a 1422 01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the capital 1423 01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:16,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: outlay actually increased 1424 01:39:16,980 --> 01:39:19,240 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: in the Sandigan budget 1425 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,520 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: from 1426 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: 300 million to 719 1427 01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,100 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: million. May I ask 1428 01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:25,800 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: the Sandigan, 1429 01:39:26,420 --> 01:39:28,940 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: what is the rational 1430 01:39:28,940 --> 01:39:30,940 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: for this increase? Is there, 1431 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:32,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: a plan to 1432 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: put more 1433 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: buildings or put more capacity? 1434 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: May I just ask this 1435 01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: increase in capital 1436 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: outlay? I saw also the account actually 1437 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: on building and other structures. 1438 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Thank you, Mr. 1439 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Senate President. 1440 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:50,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: On behalf of the Sandigan Bayan, 1441 01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:52,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: I would thank profusely 1442 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: the Senate President for the support 1443 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: to the Sandigan Bayan, 1444 01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:58,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: most especially. 1445 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: To the question being asked, 1446 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: the increase for 1447 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:04,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: capital outlay is the 1448 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: intended construction 1449 01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: of a Sandigan Bayan building 1450 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:10,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2. We 1451 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: believe that the construction of the 1452 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Sandigan Bayan building 2 is 1453 01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: very important and 1454 01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:18,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: timely because our 1455 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: current building where we hold our 1456 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: trial, po, 1457 01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Mr. Senate President and Mr. 1458 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Chair, 1459 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: is actually 1460 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: no longer safe 1461 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: when we conducted 1462 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:34,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: upon the request 1463 01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: of the Sandigan Bayan, there were 1464 01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: technical studies conducted, 1465 01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:40,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2 already done. 1466 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: There are several 1467 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: columns which are found to be 1468 01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: deficient 1469 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:50,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: and below the standard 1470 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:52,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: of the building. 1471 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: In other words, there is an issue 1472 01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:58,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: on the structural integrity, 1473 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: particularly 1474 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:02,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: in the columns of 1475 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:04,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: our building so 1476 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: that not only 1477 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: the justices and the court 1478 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:10,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: employees and personnel 1479 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:12,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: are at risk, but 1480 01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: also our court users 1481 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:16,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: who go to the Sandigan Bayan 1482 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: who are at risk. 1483 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:20,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: We do 1484 01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: not, we would like to 1485 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: also emphasize the fact 1486 01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: that we are only 1 kilometer 1487 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:28,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: or about 1.2 kilometer 1488 01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:30,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: to be exact from the 1489 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:32,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: nearest fault line 1490 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:34,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: and if indeed there 1491 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: will be a big 1492 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:38,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: jolt that will 1493 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:40,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: affect all of us, 1494 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: we might 1495 01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: be ready but we cannot 1496 01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: answer for the safety 1497 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: of all our 1498 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: of the court users. 1499 01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: As of now, pending the 1500 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: construction, we are only 1501 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: hoping and capacitating ourselves 1502 01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: to be ready 1503 01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: for any disaster that 1504 01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: might happen. 1505 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We inside the compound 1506 01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: because I know the Sandigan compound 1507 01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: is medyo masikip na rin eh, no? 1508 01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Yes po. The Commission 1509 01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: on Audit was 1510 01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: gracious enough to 1511 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: grant the use of 1512 01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: of the total almost 1513 01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 5,000 square meter 1514 01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: for us to build another building. 1515 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: That will only replace the old building 1516 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: or also are we 1517 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: anticipating more 1518 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: courts for that building? 1519 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,200 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: More divisions? 1520 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Right now po, the building where we are 1521 01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: currently occupying only 1522 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: can only accommodate 1523 01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: five divisions. 1524 01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: So that as we are right now 1525 01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: that two 1526 01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: newly created divisions in 1527 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2016 technically 1528 01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: could not be accommodated. That's 1529 01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: why we only have five courtrooms 1530 01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: now and we have to 1531 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: take turns in conducting 1532 01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: cases and hearing the 1533 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: process that are filed. But be that 1534 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: as it may, your honors 1535 01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: may I inform you 1536 01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: that in 1537 01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: in 2026 1538 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: our caseload in the Sandigan 1539 01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:16,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: bayan is reduced already 1540 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: to 525 1541 01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: from 1542 01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 1,229 in 1543 01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2024, 1544 01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 805 in 2026. 1545 01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And our 1546 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: conviction rate in 1547 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2026 has greatly 1548 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: improved. 1549 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: We have a conviction rate already 1550 01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: of 82.48 1551 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: percent po 1552 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: in the Sandigan bayan. 1553 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Our conviction rate 1554 01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: in 2026 is now 1555 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: stands at 82 1556 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: point 1557 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 48 percent. 1558 01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:56,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 82 po. 1559 01:43:58,090 --> 01:44:00,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: May I give you a 1560 01:44:00,090 --> 01:44:02,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: summary of our conviction rate 1561 01:44:02,090 --> 01:44:04,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: over the years. In 1562 01:44:04,090 --> 01:44:06,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2021, our 1563 01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:08,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: conviction rate was 1564 01:44:08,090 --> 01:44:10,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 11.2. 1565 01:44:10,090 --> 01:44:12,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2022, 1566 01:44:12,090 --> 01:44:14,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 18.06. 1567 01:44:14,090 --> 01:44:16,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2023, 1568 01:44:16,090 --> 01:44:18,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 42.94. 1569 01:44:18,090 --> 01:44:20,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2025, 1570 01:44:20,090 --> 01:44:22,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 39.43. 1571 01:44:22,090 --> 01:44:24,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And 1572 01:44:24,090 --> 01:44:26,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 2026, 1573 01:44:26,090 --> 01:44:28,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 82.48. 1574 01:44:30,090 --> 01:44:32,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Justice, 1575 01:44:32,090 --> 01:44:34,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: nung 2021, 11 percent lang 1576 01:44:34,090 --> 01:44:36,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: ang conviction rate po. 1577 01:44:36,090 --> 01:44:38,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So in other words, 1578 01:44:38,090 --> 01:44:40,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: only 1 out of 10 1579 01:44:40,090 --> 01:44:42,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: na kaso na kukonvict? 1580 01:44:42,090 --> 01:44:44,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Yes po. In 2021, 1581 01:44:44,090 --> 01:44:46,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 1 out of 10 gets convicted. 1582 01:44:46,090 --> 01:44:48,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: But then, 1583 01:44:48,090 --> 01:44:50,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: now it has changed. 1584 01:44:50,090 --> 01:44:52,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: We now have 8 1585 01:44:52,090 --> 01:44:54,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: convicted out of 10. 1586 01:44:54,090 --> 01:44:56,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So now it's 8 out of 10? 1587 01:44:56,090 --> 01:44:57,080 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Yes po. 1588 01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:58,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Dapat talaga lakihan 1589 01:44:58,090 --> 01:45:00,090 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ng pondo, Chairman. Baka 1590 01:45:00,340 --> 01:45:02,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How do you explain that, if I may? 1591 01:45:02,980 --> 01:45:08,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How do you explain the jump from 39% to 82%? 1592 01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:16,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: There are varying factors of the disparity, the range in conviction rate. 1593 01:45:17,500 --> 01:45:22,640 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Among others would be probably in the preparation of the prosecutors. 1594 01:45:23,660 --> 01:45:28,460 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Maybe the prosecutors have prepared themselves and presented their cases. 1595 01:45:28,460 --> 01:45:41,860 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Also, Your Honor, one of the most important factors is when we try the cases sooner, the witnesses are available and the prosecution is prepared. 1596 01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:50,280 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: The memory of the witnesses is very fresh, and therefore they can tell the court what really happened. 1597 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:58,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the delay or the longer the court processes creates also the risk. 1598 01:45:58,460 --> 01:46:02,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The risk of witnesses being… 1599 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:03,460 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: They die. 1600 01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:04,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They die or they're… 1601 01:46:04,540 --> 01:46:05,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Unavailable. 1602 01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or they become pressured by whatever, no? 1603 01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:08,680 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Yes, Your Honor. 1604 01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:09,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Outside extraneous… 1605 01:46:10,260 --> 01:46:11,000 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Yes, Your Honor. 1606 01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:14,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So the quicker, the faster, the easier the conviction. 1607 01:46:14,440 --> 01:46:15,360 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Yes, Your Honor. 1608 01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:24,240 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: That's why the Sandigan Bayan is actually pushing for speedy disposition of cases, especially the cases that are recently filed. 1609 01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,240 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mr. Chairman, Mr. President… 1610 01:46:28,460 --> 01:46:41,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mr. President, with your indulgence, especially right now, with the recent biggest corruption issue in history of our government, which happened last year in flood control, people are enraged. 1611 01:46:41,540 --> 01:46:58,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And people are waiting for actions, and they think in our quest for accountability, and we are instituting reforms so that we would like to practice transparency. 1612 01:46:58,460 --> 01:47:03,040 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Because we want to bring back the trust of people in government. 1613 01:47:03,260 --> 01:47:13,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, ma'am, we are banking on the Sandigan Bayan, siguro, but it's very important, especially in a fight against corruption, is yung pong certainty of punishment, no? 1614 01:47:14,060 --> 01:47:21,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Siguro, sabi ni Mr. Chairman, pag tumatagal, nawawala na yung mga witness, tapos yung mga justice inaabutan retirement. 1615 01:47:21,540 --> 01:47:23,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So, we will be… 1616 01:47:23,540 --> 01:47:27,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We are doing our part also in the Senate, no? 1617 01:47:27,420 --> 01:47:27,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: By… 1618 01:47:28,460 --> 01:47:32,360 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: By instituting reforms, by instituting transparency. 1619 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: We're hoping that we can… 1620 01:47:35,820 --> 01:47:57,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Whatever support we can give sa Sandigan po, yung budget niyo na kung kinakilay augment or improve so that, you know, it's very crucial at this point in our history that yung pong certainty of punishment and speedy disposition of justice is very crucial. 1621 01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:58,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: In our fight against… 1622 01:47:58,460 --> 01:48:05,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And for our request to reform the government. 1623 01:48:05,440 --> 01:48:05,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, ma'am. 1624 01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:06,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 1625 01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:22,320 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Just to inform the senators, of the flood control cases that were filed, the first of the flood control case that was filed by the Honorable Ombudsman was in November 18, 2025. 1626 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:28,440 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Of the first cases that were filed, they are already in the defense stage. 1627 01:48:28,460 --> 01:48:36,940 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: That means that in less than a year, we are already in the defense side. 1628 01:48:38,620 --> 01:48:40,580 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: So, that's pretty fast po. 1629 01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:46,260 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: How many flood control cases have been filed already to the Sandigan? 1630 01:48:46,700 --> 01:48:52,900 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: As of today, there are 26 cases that were filed by the Office of the Ombudsman. 1631 01:48:53,860 --> 01:48:54,880 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: 26 po. 1632 01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:57,880 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Against senators and against… 1633 01:48:58,460 --> 01:49:00,180 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Against congressmen. 1634 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:10,260 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Out of the 26 cases, you mentioned that some of them are already in the defense stage. 1635 01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:12,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ilan po ang nasa defense stage na? 1636 01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:13,740 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: More or less lang. 1637 01:49:13,740 --> 01:49:17,640 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: The earliest that was filed is already in the defense stage. 1638 01:49:21,580 --> 01:49:26,740 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: One was archived because the accused was… 1639 01:49:26,740 --> 01:49:27,740 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Was… 1640 01:49:28,460 --> 01:49:29,460 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Well, could not be located. 1641 01:49:30,340 --> 01:49:37,060 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And the other cases that had co-accused is already in that defense stage already. 1642 01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:37,820 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Okay. 1643 01:49:38,540 --> 01:49:44,500 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, in other words, we'll see a resolution on that particular case quite soon? 1644 01:49:44,500 --> 01:49:59,880 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: If we follow the Speedy Trial Act that was enacted by the Supreme Court, we will see the conviction within a year… 1645 01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:00,500 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: The year po. 1646 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,780 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Or acquittal within the year. 1647 01:50:03,860 --> 01:50:04,920 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Or acquittal, of course. 1648 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:16,180 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Well, the disposition within the year, which may be a conviction or acquittal. 1649 01:50:16,180 --> 01:50:20,430 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We're not going to say what our preference is. 1650 01:50:22,210 --> 01:50:31,170 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: But connected to this, Justice, I actually was doing some research. 1651 01:50:31,870 --> 01:50:32,590 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: There's this… 1652 01:50:32,590 --> 01:50:33,590 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: There's this… 1653 01:50:33,590 --> 01:50:33,630 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: There's this… 1654 01:50:33,630 --> 01:50:38,010 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: There's this matrix called the Corruption Perceptions Index. 1655 01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:38,830 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Yes, po. 1656 01:50:38,830 --> 01:50:45,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In which, noong 2001, we're actually ranked 117, 117. 1657 01:50:46,350 --> 01:50:52,650 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And in 2025, bumagsak tayo to rank 120. 1658 01:50:53,530 --> 01:51:01,190 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: We're only higher than Myanmar and Cambodia, which are military junta regimes. 1659 01:51:01,190 --> 01:51:03,190 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, in other words… 1660 01:51:03,630 --> 01:51:16,390 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: The perception of our international peers, mga kasamahan na natin sa ibang bansa, is lumalalaing corruption sa atin. 1661 01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:21,990 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And that also is connected to investments in our country. 1662 01:51:22,090 --> 01:51:24,050 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: That's why I saw numbers in our investments. 1663 01:51:24,250 --> 01:51:26,270 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: It's also gone down. 1664 01:51:27,390 --> 01:51:32,850 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Lately, the Business Confidence Index by local businessmen has plunged to a negative. 1665 01:51:32,850 --> 01:51:38,050 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Territory, which is actually even worse than the pandemic time. 1666 01:51:38,330 --> 01:51:45,350 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, in other words, the perception of corruption, and also government addressing it, is quite low. 1667 01:51:45,650 --> 01:51:54,750 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, I just want to ask the Sandigan, how are we also addressing this perception of corruption? 1668 01:51:54,750 --> 01:52:02,690 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: As well as, how is the Sandigan also working with the other branches of government? 1669 01:52:02,690 --> 01:52:08,830 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: To improve our perception of corruption, and eventually make people accountable. 1670 01:52:09,050 --> 01:52:14,310 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At the end of the day, ang gusto naman natin kung ang evident siya, claro, then let's make people accountable. 1671 01:52:14,930 --> 01:52:22,450 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, and like I said, the executive, legislative, and judiciary, in the eyes of our kababayan, isa lang yan eh. 1672 01:52:22,850 --> 01:52:24,030 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: One government lang. 1673 01:52:24,210 --> 01:52:28,770 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, we want to ask, and right now is a crucial time because of the corruption issue. 1674 01:52:28,770 --> 01:52:30,350 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So, I want to ask the Sandigan. 1675 01:52:31,170 --> 01:52:32,250 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: How are we? 1676 01:52:32,690 --> 01:52:46,050 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In your internal management discussion, what are the mechanisms that you are employing to improve the perception of corruption in our country? 1677 01:52:49,310 --> 01:52:50,890 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Thank you, Mr. Senate President. 1678 01:52:50,890 --> 01:53:01,790 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Actually, this Corruption Perception Index is a report of Transparency International, an NGO, an international NGO. 1679 01:53:02,130 --> 01:53:04,010 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And there are several parameters. 1680 01:53:04,010 --> 01:53:13,330 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: That are being considered in rating a country in terms of its performance vis-a-vis corruption. 1681 01:53:14,990 --> 01:53:18,490 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: The judiciary certainly plays a role. 1682 01:53:19,090 --> 01:53:25,810 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: But it is only a specific portion that it can address. 1683 01:53:25,810 --> 01:53:30,770 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And that is in the speedy disposition of cases, one. 1684 01:53:31,770 --> 01:53:33,810 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Two, that the justices. 1685 01:53:34,010 --> 01:53:41,490 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And the court system must appear to be credible that it is dispensing justice. 1686 01:53:42,590 --> 01:53:54,490 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Important is this credibility of the justice system and the judges, justices, that we can be fair in the decisions that we give. 1687 01:53:56,230 --> 01:54:03,990 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And I think the Supreme Court is stressing the need for the justices and the judges to be credible. 1688 01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:11,310 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: It is very strong now, the Supreme Court, especially under the Chief Justice, SPJI. 1689 01:54:12,310 --> 01:54:15,230 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: That the judges should also be ethical. 1690 01:54:15,790 --> 01:54:23,410 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And that we maintain our values as citizens and as judges. 1691 01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:26,850 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Once we are credible enough. 1692 01:54:27,090 --> 01:54:33,050 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Once the people will have faith and the Filipino citizen will have faith that we can deliver. 1693 01:54:34,010 --> 01:54:38,410 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: and give that justice to the Filipino citizens, 1694 01:54:39,230 --> 01:54:45,810 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: then perception of justice and non-corruption will increase. 1695 01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:54,290 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: The step forward for us in the Sandigan Bayan is to ensure that when cases are filed, 1696 01:54:55,110 --> 01:54:59,810 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: we attend to the cases and that they are heard immediately. 1697 01:54:59,810 --> 01:55:07,930 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Thus, right now in the Sandigan Bayan, everybody, it is open in the internet. 1698 01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:12,430 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: You can see where the cases are ruffled to. 1699 01:55:13,350 --> 01:55:21,770 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Even our ruffle of cases is open to the public and it is aired via internet. 1700 01:55:22,650 --> 01:55:27,430 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Our hearings in the Sandigan Bayan are also made accessible. 1701 01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:33,910 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: People can listen to the actual hearings conducted 1702 01:55:33,910 --> 01:55:41,570 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: so that the people can judge for themselves whether we are biased or not. 1703 01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:49,490 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: So these are our steps to make sure that we are transparent in what we do. 1704 01:55:53,860 --> 01:56:00,160 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Internally, we have also made sure that we do not go beyond the period set 1705 01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:04,180 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: by the Supreme Court to render decisions. 1706 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:10,120 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: And that's why I can assure you, Mr. President, Senate President, 1707 01:56:10,420 --> 01:56:18,500 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: that we are disposing of our cases at the earliest possible time. 1708 01:56:19,500 --> 01:56:21,980 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you. Thank you for those explanations, Justice. 1709 01:56:21,980 --> 01:56:30,080 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And rest assured that we are one in our objective of making people accountable. 1710 01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:39,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: In fact, that's why I said earlier na meron kaming masusuportahan para bumilis 1711 01:56:39,780 --> 01:56:43,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: at lalong mapanagot natin yung dapat mapanagot. 1712 01:56:43,740 --> 01:56:48,160 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yun ang dapat natin gawin in our own way during the budget deliberations. 1713 01:56:48,980 --> 01:56:52,140 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: Thank you. And that's why, as mentioned by the Court Administrator, 1714 01:56:52,140 --> 01:57:00,080 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: the Sandigan Bayan has already moved for its reorganization of its staffing pattern. 1715 01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:07,920 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: So that we can be more responsive in attending to the cases that are filed. 1716 01:57:08,340 --> 01:57:14,140 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: At the end of the day, the measure of the people on the performance of the justices 1717 01:57:14,140 --> 01:57:20,840 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: and the court itself is our disposal of cases at the soonest possible time. 1718 01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:27,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you for that. And sana mag tuloy-tuloy na itong 82% conviction rate. 1719 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,300 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you. 1720 01:57:28,300 --> 01:57:28,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you. 1721 01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:29,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you. 1722 01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:37,820 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Ang pangarap ni Sen. Pangilinan eh, in many of his speeches. 1723 01:57:38,140 --> 01:57:40,300 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: When the evidence points to that, po. 1724 01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:41,240 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yes. 1725 01:57:42,220 --> 01:57:44,860 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Mabalik lang ako sa admin matters, Justice. 1726 01:57:45,140 --> 01:57:46,460 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Yes, go ahead. 1727 01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:49,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: With the permission of our Senate President. 1728 01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:55,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know, we were going through some of the conviction rates of other countries 1729 01:57:55,740 --> 01:57:57,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in terms of corruption cases. 1730 01:57:57,180 --> 01:57:59,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Japan is 99%. 1731 01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:12,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Australia is 97% Singapore is 90 plus percent Malaysia 89% Taiwan is 70 to 80% Hong Kong is 80%. 1732 01:58:12,220 --> 01:58:28,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So you can see, you know, we, well, at least with the 82% were somehow on track now how to sustain it and how to ensure that we don't backslide is also a concern. 1733 01:58:28,060 --> 01:58:30,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So I just wanted to put that on record. 1734 01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:31,860 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Sir, very important information. 1735 01:58:31,860 --> 01:58:39,320 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: At least we're now at the level of our developed country peers in the region at 80%. 1736 01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:44,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Although, if I may add, this is still, the year isn't over. 1737 01:58:45,300 --> 01:58:57,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So hopefully, it'll even be higher, but it can go lower because last year, in your budget hearings in the House, it was off record by August or September. 1738 01:58:58,280 --> 01:58:58,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Ninth. 1739 01:58:59,620 --> 01:59:00,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is? 1740 01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Forty seven point six percent was your conviction rate. 1741 01:59:03,580 --> 01:59:07,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But today you're telling us by the end of the year, it went down to thirty nine. 1742 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:18,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So boom about, you know, so we will wait for the end of the year to find out if the 82 will be maintained, will be increased or will will fall. 1743 01:59:20,540 --> 01:59:21,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just on that. 1744 01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:22,920 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 1745 01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:27,660 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: I'll just, balik lang ako, Justice, doon sa some admin matters. 1746 01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,620 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: You mentioned earlier that the two courts. 1747 01:59:29,620 --> 01:59:34,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Simda dalawang bagong divisions, nagsishare sila sa ibang divisions. 1748 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:39,040 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: So obviously that's a bottleneck. 1749 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:49,660 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: If all the divisions can have their own sala or their own facility, then they can hear cases all at the same time. 1750 01:59:50,020 --> 01:59:54,340 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Will this new facility give them their own sala? 1751 01:59:55,420 --> 01:59:58,000 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: That is the intention that with the new building. 1752 01:59:58,000 --> 01:59:59,520 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: We all of the divisions. 1753 01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:00,000 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: We'll have their. 1754 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,920 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: hearing room. 1755 02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:03,020 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith Econg: We have seven. Yes, po. 1756 02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:05,280 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Seven sala? Courtrooms. 1757 02:00:05,380 --> 02:00:07,380 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Courtrooms. Alright. Thank you 1758 02:00:07,380 --> 02:00:09,660 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Justice and rest assured we'll 1759 02:00:09,660 --> 02:00:11,400 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: support you on those 1760 02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,960 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: requirements. Like I said, 1761 02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:15,840 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: kung ano yung pwede namin 1762 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: maitulong para bumilis yung 1763 02:00:18,060 --> 02:00:20,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: dispensation ng kaso, 1764 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:22,060 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: eh tutulong ho kami. 1765 02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:24,020 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: And kung kailangan po magpatayo 1766 02:00:24,020 --> 02:00:25,700 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ng building para magkaroon po ng 1767 02:00:25,700 --> 02:00:27,860 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: courtroom sabay-sabay at 1768 02:00:27,860 --> 02:00:30,080 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: magkaroon ng hearing sabay-sabay, tutulong 1769 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:31,880 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: ho rin ho kami. Thank you. Maraming salamat po 1770 02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:33,080 Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian: Justice. Thank you Mr. Chairman. 1771 02:00:33,660 --> 02:00:35,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senate President. 1772 02:00:35,820 --> 02:00:37,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We go back to Senator 1773 02:00:37,540 --> 02:00:39,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: JV for his second... 1774 02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:41,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Actually, Mr. Chair, I'd just like to 1775 02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:43,800 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: talaga sandigan na rin lang tayo. 1776 02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:45,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung pong ano na yung 1777 02:00:45,300 --> 02:00:47,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: hopefully it will 1778 02:00:47,460 --> 02:00:49,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: improve, no? We were talking 1779 02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:51,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: with the Chairman. 1780 02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:53,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung 15 years yung average to 1781 02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:55,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: resolve, hopefully it will be improved now with 1782 02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:57,760 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the... We don't 1783 02:00:57,760 --> 02:00:58,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: mind, no? If we can, 1784 02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:02,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will try to fund for additional 1785 02:01:02,020 --> 02:01:03,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: course, yung sala. 1786 02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:05,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yung pong sinasabi ng ating Senate President, as long as 1787 02:01:05,740 --> 02:01:07,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we will be able to 1788 02:01:07,940 --> 02:01:09,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: shorten, ito po siguro, 1789 02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:11,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: para yung average time 1790 02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:13,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to resolve. And also, 1791 02:01:14,260 --> 02:01:15,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang ano-ano yung ano, 1792 02:01:16,700 --> 02:01:17,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ang Concerned Senator 1793 02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:19,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Kiko, mas gusto niya, at least mataas yung 1794 02:01:19,660 --> 02:01:21,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: conviction rate, no? If we can 1795 02:01:21,900 --> 02:01:23,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: go para at least... 1796 02:01:23,540 --> 02:01:25,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: This is a big deterrent, no? 1797 02:01:25,580 --> 02:01:27,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: In our fight against graft and corruption. 1798 02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: So... 1799 02:01:29,820 --> 02:01:36,200 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: On performance targets, 1800 02:01:36,300 --> 02:01:37,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: siguro isa na lang, Mr. Chair, 1801 02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,080 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the budget of the Supreme Court 1802 02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,640 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of Philippines and the lower courts 1803 02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:43,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and the adjudication program jumps 1804 02:01:43,860 --> 02:01:45,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: to 30%, nearly 41 1805 02:01:45,940 --> 02:01:46,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: billion. 1806 02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:49,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yet, your 1807 02:01:49,460 --> 02:01:51,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2027 case resolution target of 1808 02:01:51,740 --> 02:01:53,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 690,622 1809 02:01:54,620 --> 02:01:55,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is lower than its 1810 02:01:55,900 --> 02:01:58,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 2025 actual accomplishment of 1811 02:01:58,020 --> 02:01:59,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: 702,000. 1812 02:01:59,940 --> 02:02:01,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: How can 1813 02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:04,260 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: it be justified 1814 02:02:04,260 --> 02:02:05,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: that the increase in budget 1815 02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: if the case disposition targets 1816 02:02:07,900 --> 02:02:08,720 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: are dropped? 1817 02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:11,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 1818 02:02:12,420 --> 02:02:13,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. Your Honor, 1819 02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:15,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: one thing with adjudication is that 1820 02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:17,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: you can never project whether a case 1821 02:02:17,860 --> 02:02:20,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: will be dismissed or 1822 02:02:20,060 --> 02:02:22,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: whether an accused will be convicted 1823 02:02:22,020 --> 02:02:23,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or acquitted. Cases 1824 02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: are complex by themselves. The adjudication 1825 02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:28,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: period may vary from court to court 1826 02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:29,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: depending on the number of witnesses, 1827 02:02:29,940 --> 02:02:31,360 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the number of the accused even, 1828 02:02:31,700 --> 02:02:33,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the number of lawyers defending an accused, 1829 02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:35,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the number of motions filed in court. 1830 02:02:35,740 --> 02:02:37,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So, Your Honor, our 1831 02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: performance target may be fixed 1832 02:02:39,860 --> 02:02:41,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: statistically. We can 1833 02:02:41,980 --> 02:02:43,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: study the regression rate 1834 02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:45,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: with off anything 1835 02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:47,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that causes 1836 02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:48,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: its fluctuation, 1837 02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:51,540 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: its ebbing or falling, but 1838 02:02:51,540 --> 02:02:53,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: a case will always proceed by 1839 02:02:53,780 --> 02:02:55,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: itself, Your Honor. So, what we 1840 02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:57,580 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: can do is really, that's why we're focusing 1841 02:02:57,580 --> 02:02:59,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: on the internal processes and 1842 02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:01,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the satisfaction of our external 1843 02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:03,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: stakeholders and our internal 1844 02:03:03,260 --> 02:03:05,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: stakeholders. If you combine all of that, Your Honor, 1845 02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:07,580 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that is how we define, 1846 02:03:07,700 --> 02:03:09,220 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: if it is a high-performing court, 1847 02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:11,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: how we define our performance targets. 1848 02:03:13,180 --> 02:03:13,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Likewise, 1849 02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:15,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Mr. Chair, 1850 02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:17,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Justice 1851 02:03:17,500 --> 02:03:19,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Justice Estoesta, because 1852 02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:20,320 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: last week we had 1853 02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,440 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the first hearing 1854 02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:25,420 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: was the budget briefing was on budget 1855 02:03:25,420 --> 02:03:26,580 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: of the Ombudsman and 1856 02:03:26,580 --> 02:03:29,220 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Commission on Audit. 1857 02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:31,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: And may pinapatanong po, sa media po ito, 1858 02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:33,380 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: basahin ko ito, not for me. 1859 02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:34,500 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Phone in lang po. 1860 02:03:35,380 --> 02:03:37,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Good morning, boss. Baka pwedeng patanong 1861 02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,820 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: kay Justice Estoesta how the SC 1862 02:03:39,820 --> 02:03:41,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: is addressing Ombudsman 1863 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:43,520 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Rimulya's concern on the supposed 1864 02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:45,960 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: questionable actions of some 1865 02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:47,780 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: justices who voided 1866 02:03:47,780 --> 02:03:49,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the decisions of corruption-related cases 1867 02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:51,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and granted bail to government officials 1868 02:03:51,860 --> 02:03:53,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: facing non-bailable 1869 02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:55,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: offenses. Thanks. So, 1870 02:03:56,140 --> 02:03:57,840 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: since I think he, 1871 02:03:58,340 --> 02:03:59,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: the Ombudsman, 1872 02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:02,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: made those statements in the Senate 1873 02:04:02,020 --> 02:04:03,160 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: just for the record, at least 1874 02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,480 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: ma-address po ng court natin 1875 02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,700 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: from the judiciary 1876 02:04:07,700 --> 02:04:08,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: on how we 1877 02:04:08,900 --> 02:04:11,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: this, ano, how this will be addressed. 1878 02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:12,940 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Sige po, ma'am. 1879 02:04:13,780 --> 02:04:16,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I understand that the Supreme Court 1880 02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:18,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: came up with a statement, no? 1881 02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:19,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, go ahead. 1882 02:04:19,820 --> 02:04:21,460 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Yes, there's a statement by the Supreme Court. 1883 02:04:21,660 --> 02:04:23,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Nothing to do with a non-bailable offense, 1884 02:04:23,620 --> 02:04:24,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Mr. Chair. 1885 02:04:26,020 --> 02:04:27,940 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The statement that came out 1886 02:04:27,940 --> 02:04:29,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: from the Supreme Court is in so far, 1887 02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:31,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: as the resolution of 1888 02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:34,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the Court of Appeals 1889 02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:35,960 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: justices, in so far 1890 02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:37,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: as the reversal of adversative 1891 02:04:37,780 --> 02:04:39,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: cases filed under 1892 02:04:39,900 --> 02:04:41,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Rule 43 before the Court of Appeals, 1893 02:04:41,660 --> 02:04:43,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: and they were reversed. And the 1894 02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:45,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Supreme Court statement is to the effect 1895 02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:47,440 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: that while we 1896 02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:48,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: welcome 1897 02:04:48,860 --> 02:04:51,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: a check 1898 02:04:51,700 --> 02:04:52,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: into 1899 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:57,140 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: a scrutiny 1900 02:04:57,140 --> 02:04:58,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: into our actions, 1901 02:04:58,780 --> 02:04:59,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we cannot, 1902 02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: there is always 1903 02:05:02,020 --> 02:05:04,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: a process, and if there is 1904 02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:05,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: an allusion to misconduct or 1905 02:05:05,900 --> 02:05:07,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: corruption or irregularity, 1906 02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:10,120 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: it should be substantiated 1907 02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:11,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: rather than rely on 1908 02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:12,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: general statements 1909 02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:15,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: in public, Your Honor. It should be filed 1910 02:05:15,900 --> 02:05:17,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: before the proper forum. That was the 1911 02:05:17,900 --> 02:05:19,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: statement made by the Supreme Court, Your Honor. 1912 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:21,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But if we 1913 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:23,700 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: wish to, yes, 1914 02:05:23,860 --> 02:05:25,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: may the presiding justice of the Court 1915 02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:27,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of Appeals be recognized, Your Honor. 1916 02:05:27,900 --> 02:05:29,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead, Justice Peralta. 1917 02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:31,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Good morning. 1918 02:05:31,780 --> 02:05:33,000 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Thank you. Good morning, 1919 02:05:33,380 --> 02:05:34,120 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Mr. 1920 02:05:42,540 --> 02:05:45,400 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Senate President 1921 02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:46,820 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Senator Gatchalian. 1922 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,380 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Now, with that 1923 02:05:49,380 --> 02:05:51,480 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: public statement of 1924 02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:53,740 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: the Ombudsman 1925 02:05:53,740 --> 02:05:55,300 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: that there are 1926 02:05:55,300 --> 02:05:56,660 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: many, many cases 1927 02:05:56,660 --> 02:05:59,380 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: wherein the Ombudsman 1928 02:05:59,380 --> 02:06:01,220 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: was reversed in the Court of Appeals, 1929 02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:03,160 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: we want to 1930 02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:04,980 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: present statistics. 1931 02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:07,440 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: So, 1932 02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:09,400 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: for the last five years, 1933 02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:11,140 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: sir, 1934 02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:13,420 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: for the last five 1935 02:06:13,420 --> 02:06:15,260 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: years since 2021 1936 02:06:15,260 --> 02:06:17,300 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: up to the present, there 1937 02:06:17,300 --> 02:06:19,660 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: were 683 cases 1938 02:06:19,660 --> 02:06:21,360 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: appealed to the Court 1939 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,260 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: of Appeals, either 1940 02:06:23,260 --> 02:06:25,500 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: via petition for 1941 02:06:25,500 --> 02:06:26,900 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: review under Rule 43 1942 02:06:26,900 --> 02:06:29,340 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: or certiorari under 1943 02:06:29,340 --> 02:06:30,080 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Rule 65. 1944 02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:33,140 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Of those 683 1945 02:06:33,140 --> 02:06:33,660 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: cases, 1946 02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:37,040 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: only 18% 1947 02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:38,860 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: were 1948 02:06:38,860 --> 02:06:41,000 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: reversed, meaning 1949 02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:43,180 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: the Ombudsman was not 1950 02:06:43,180 --> 02:06:45,260 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: sustained. But 1951 02:06:45,260 --> 02:06:47,100 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: 82% or 1952 02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:49,000 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: 559 1953 02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:50,260 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: were affirmed. 1954 02:06:52,710 --> 02:06:54,810 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: And we also gathered statistics 1955 02:06:54,810 --> 02:06:56,870 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: regarding the TRO 1956 02:06:56,870 --> 02:06:59,030 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: and 1957 02:06:59,030 --> 02:07:00,870 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: rate of preliminary injunction 1958 02:07:00,870 --> 02:07:03,010 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: issued by the Court of Appeals. 1959 02:07:03,030 --> 02:07:05,810 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: From 2021 1960 02:07:05,810 --> 02:07:07,430 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: up to 1961 02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:08,650 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: the present, 1962 02:07:09,250 --> 02:07:10,530 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: only 1963 02:07:10,530 --> 02:07:11,850 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: 87 1964 02:07:11,850 --> 02:07:15,050 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: cases were filed 1965 02:07:15,050 --> 02:07:16,850 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: praying for TRO or 1966 02:07:16,850 --> 02:07:19,270 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: rate of preliminary injunction. 1967 02:07:19,790 --> 02:07:21,010 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Of those 87 1968 02:07:21,010 --> 02:07:21,750 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: cases, 1969 02:07:22,410 --> 02:07:24,730 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: only 6 cases 1970 02:07:24,730 --> 02:07:26,410 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: from 2021 1971 02:07:26,410 --> 02:07:28,210 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: up to the present 1972 02:07:28,210 --> 02:07:31,010 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: were the Court of 1973 02:07:31,010 --> 02:07:32,530 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: Appeals granted the TRO. 1974 02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:34,530 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: And the injunction. 1975 02:07:35,250 --> 02:07:37,090 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: The 81 other cases 1976 02:07:37,090 --> 02:07:38,890 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: were not 1977 02:07:38,890 --> 02:07:41,310 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: the Court of Appeals 1978 02:07:41,310 --> 02:07:42,590 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: did not grant the TRO 1979 02:07:42,590 --> 02:07:44,910 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: or injunction. Meaning to say 1980 02:07:44,910 --> 02:07:47,030 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: that there were not many 1981 02:07:47,030 --> 02:07:49,170 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: many cases wherein the Ombudsman 1982 02:07:49,170 --> 02:07:51,430 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda C. Lampas Peralta: was reversed by the Court of Appeals. 1983 02:07:52,110 --> 02:07:53,150 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And if I may add 1984 02:07:53,150 --> 02:07:55,150 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: your honor, this is also a figure 1985 02:07:55,150 --> 02:07:56,950 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: actually given by the Honorable 1986 02:07:56,950 --> 02:07:58,630 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Presiding Justice Peralta. 1987 02:07:58,910 --> 02:08:00,910 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And if I will just, since 1988 02:08:00,910 --> 02:08:02,870 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: she simply gave 1989 02:08:02,870 --> 02:08:04,870 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the figure for 1990 02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:07,130 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: the fiscal year 2021 for 2026, 1991 02:08:07,630 --> 02:08:09,050 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: for January, this fiscal 1992 02:08:09,050 --> 02:08:10,850 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: year up to July, out of the 1993 02:08:10,850 --> 02:08:13,190 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 286 administrative cases 1994 02:08:13,190 --> 02:08:14,950 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: filed to the Supreme Court under 1995 02:08:14,950 --> 02:08:16,730 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Rule 43, only 13 1996 02:08:16,730 --> 02:08:18,530 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: were reversed or representing 1997 02:08:18,530 --> 02:08:20,490 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 0.045%. 1998 02:08:20,490 --> 02:08:22,890 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So not all cases 1999 02:08:22,890 --> 02:08:24,690 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: filed are reversed in 2000 02:08:24,690 --> 02:08:26,870 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: so far as the administrative cases are 2001 02:08:26,870 --> 02:08:28,830 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: concerned. Thank you, Your Honors. 2002 02:08:31,300 --> 02:08:32,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's all. 2003 02:08:33,060 --> 02:08:34,540 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Be rest assured that we will, you know, 2004 02:08:34,660 --> 02:08:37,020 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: anything that would reduce 2005 02:08:37,020 --> 02:08:38,860 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: itong inyong congestion, 2006 02:08:39,060 --> 02:08:40,620 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: everything that's our concern 2007 02:08:40,620 --> 02:08:41,900 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: as brought 2008 02:08:41,900 --> 02:08:44,680 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: up by our Chair 2009 02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:45,740 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: and our Senate President. 2010 02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:47,880 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: Of course, kahit bilag, 2011 02:08:48,420 --> 02:08:50,920 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: even if the DBM wants to 2012 02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:52,300 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: reduce your budget, 2013 02:08:52,940 --> 02:08:54,400 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: we'll try to do our 2014 02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:56,140 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: best to 2015 02:08:56,140 --> 02:08:58,600 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: at least retain you. As long as 2016 02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:00,560 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: you can, we'll address all of 2017 02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:02,660 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: these concerns that were brought up by 2018 02:09:02,660 --> 02:09:04,340 Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito: our Chair and our Senate President. Thank you. 2019 02:09:04,660 --> 02:09:05,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, Your Honor. 2020 02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:06,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senator 2021 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: JV. I just have a few 2022 02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:09,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: questions. 2023 02:09:12,540 --> 02:09:14,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What is the... I remember 2024 02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:16,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in my first term in the Senate, 2025 02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the average 2026 02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:20,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: shelf life of 2027 02:09:20,500 --> 02:09:22,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cases in the first-level courts 2028 02:09:22,300 --> 02:09:24,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: was about six years. 2029 02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:26,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I remember in your budget 2030 02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:28,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: presentation last year, you were 2031 02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:29,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: saying it's now down to four. 2032 02:09:30,660 --> 02:09:32,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is that correct? Yes, Your Honor. 2033 02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:34,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For the Sandigan Bayan, 2034 02:09:34,660 --> 02:09:36,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what is the... Do you have 2035 02:09:36,580 --> 02:09:38,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the figures as to 2036 02:09:38,540 --> 02:09:40,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the shelf life of Sandigan 2037 02:09:40,340 --> 02:09:42,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bayan cases? Would it 2038 02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:44,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: somehow 2039 02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:46,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: adhere to 2040 02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:48,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the average 2041 02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or is it shorter 2042 02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:51,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or longer? 2043 02:09:53,180 --> 02:09:54,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Saan mo nakuha yung 15 million? 2044 02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:56,540 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: May the Presiding Justice 2045 02:09:56,540 --> 02:09:58,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of the Sandigan Bayan answer your question, 2046 02:09:58,460 --> 02:09:59,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor. Thank you very much. 2047 02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:04,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Was that in the hearing? 2048 02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:04,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2049 02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:07,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, because 2050 02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:10,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: as the Chairman is 2051 02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:12,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: confirming it, in the budget hearing 2052 02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:13,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the Ombudsman, 2053 02:10:14,580 --> 02:10:16,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: they placed... It was 2054 02:10:16,260 --> 02:10:18,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: placed on record, or at least it was manifested 2055 02:10:18,240 --> 02:10:20,140 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that the shelf life in the Sandigan 2056 02:10:20,140 --> 02:10:22,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bayan is... Can you confirm 2057 02:10:22,340 --> 02:10:23,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: this? Fifteen years? 2058 02:10:23,820 --> 02:10:24,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before. 2059 02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:33,440 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: Nine to 2060 02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:33,840 Associate Justice Jhosep Y. Lopez: ten. 2061 02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:36,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Until last year, maybe. 2062 02:10:38,740 --> 02:10:41,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And in addition, perhaps, the other question 2063 02:10:41,300 --> 02:10:41,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is 2064 02:10:41,740 --> 02:10:45,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what is the history 2065 02:10:45,340 --> 02:10:47,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of the caseload in the Sandigan 2066 02:10:47,220 --> 02:10:49,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bayan also? 2067 02:10:49,620 --> 02:10:51,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you don't have the answers now, ma'am, 2068 02:10:51,380 --> 02:10:52,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maybe you can just submit it. 2069 02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:53,020 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2070 02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:57,240 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: The caseload 2071 02:10:57,240 --> 02:10:59,000 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: that we have, as I mentioned, 2072 02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:01,060 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Your Honor, in 2024, 2073 02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:02,040 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: we had 2074 02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:05,800 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 1,229 2075 02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:06,260 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: cases 2076 02:11:06,260 --> 02:11:08,220 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: as of December 2077 02:11:08,220 --> 02:11:10,320 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 31, 2024. 2078 02:11:11,300 --> 02:11:12,640 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: In 2025, 2079 02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:14,460 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: taking into consideration 2080 02:11:14,460 --> 02:11:15,460 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: case filing, 2081 02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,620 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: cases that were revived 2082 02:11:18,620 --> 02:11:19,820 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: from archives, 2083 02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:22,040 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: the total case pending 2084 02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:24,400 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: December 31, 2025 2085 02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:26,060 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: is 805. 2086 02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:28,980 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And in 2026... 2087 02:11:28,980 --> 02:11:30,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's 400? 2088 02:11:31,180 --> 02:11:32,640 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: A difference of... 2089 02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:34,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: About 400 cases? 2090 02:11:34,100 --> 02:11:36,140 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: We cleared 424 2091 02:11:36,140 --> 02:11:38,380 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: cases in the docket. 2092 02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:39,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Okay. 2093 02:11:39,820 --> 02:11:40,820 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And the... 2094 02:11:41,300 --> 02:11:44,240 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: In 2026, 2095 02:11:44,460 --> 02:11:46,500 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: as of June, we have 2096 02:11:46,500 --> 02:11:49,120 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 535 2097 02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:50,480 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: cases. 2098 02:11:51,020 --> 02:11:52,520 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: That means we cleared 2099 02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:55,620 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 270%. 2100 02:11:55,620 --> 02:11:58,530 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: If 2101 02:11:58,530 --> 02:12:00,610 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: we can... 2102 02:12:00,610 --> 02:12:02,030 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This is 2026, no? 2103 02:12:02,110 --> 02:12:03,610 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 535 cases. 2104 02:12:03,910 --> 02:12:04,550 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, po. 2105 02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:05,830 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. Okay. 2106 02:12:06,070 --> 02:12:08,410 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: If we start, the earliest data that 2107 02:12:08,410 --> 02:12:10,430 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: we have prepared for today is 2108 02:12:10,430 --> 02:12:11,490 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: in 2019. 2109 02:12:12,610 --> 02:12:13,910 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: We still had 2110 02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:17,090 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 5,237 2111 02:12:17,090 --> 02:12:17,690 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: cases. 2112 02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:20,170 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 1,000? 2113 02:12:20,990 --> 02:12:21,930 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, po. 2114 02:12:21,970 --> 02:12:22,370 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 500? 2115 02:12:23,010 --> 02:12:23,730 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, po. 2116 02:12:24,210 --> 02:12:27,010 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: So we cleared 90% of our docket 2117 02:12:27,010 --> 02:12:28,670 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: in 2118 02:12:28,670 --> 02:12:32,650 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: six... 2119 02:12:32,650 --> 02:12:33,490 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: seven years. 2120 02:12:36,530 --> 02:12:37,830 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How do you 2121 02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:40,250 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: connect that with the number of cases 2122 02:12:40,250 --> 02:12:40,570 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: filed? 2123 02:12:42,790 --> 02:12:43,990 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do you have that? 2124 02:12:43,990 --> 02:12:44,650 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do you have that data also? 2125 02:12:44,890 --> 02:12:45,430 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, po. 2126 02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:48,670 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Baka rin kasi mas kukunting cases 2127 02:12:48,670 --> 02:12:51,150 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ang napapile, therefore mas kukunti, diba? 2128 02:12:51,890 --> 02:12:53,990 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you don't have the information... 2129 02:12:54,590 --> 02:12:55,390 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Admittedly, 2130 02:12:55,630 --> 02:12:57,250 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: the cases filed 2131 02:12:57,250 --> 02:12:59,850 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: of recent 2132 02:12:59,850 --> 02:13:01,490 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: years was 2133 02:13:01,490 --> 02:13:03,870 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: less than the previous 2134 02:13:03,870 --> 02:13:05,830 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: years. So if we could 2135 02:13:05,830 --> 02:13:07,750 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: have also some data as to 2136 02:13:07,750 --> 02:13:08,690 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: cases filed, no? 2137 02:13:09,130 --> 02:13:11,650 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Kasi that will also 2138 02:13:11,650 --> 02:13:13,550 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: figure in, I mean, 2139 02:13:13,990 --> 02:13:16,010 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: be configured with 2140 02:13:16,010 --> 02:13:17,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the cases? 2141 02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:17,550 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, po. 2142 02:13:18,550 --> 02:13:20,390 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: In 2019, 2143 02:13:21,070 --> 02:13:21,810 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: there were 2144 02:13:21,810 --> 02:13:23,610 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 198 cases 2145 02:13:23,610 --> 02:13:24,130 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: filed. 2146 02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:27,390 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And then in 2020, 2147 02:13:27,870 --> 02:13:28,930 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 117. 2148 02:13:29,930 --> 02:13:32,170 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 2021, 163. 2149 02:13:33,170 --> 02:13:33,890 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 2022, 2150 02:13:34,810 --> 02:13:35,810 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 240. 2151 02:13:36,810 --> 02:13:37,530 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 2023, 2152 02:13:38,210 --> 02:13:39,690 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 263. 2153 02:13:40,690 --> 02:13:41,410 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 2024, 2154 02:13:42,250 --> 02:13:43,730 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 138. 2155 02:13:43,990 --> 02:13:45,730 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: In 2025, 2156 02:13:46,670 --> 02:13:48,710 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 97 cases. 2157 02:13:49,510 --> 02:13:50,650 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And this year, 2158 02:13:51,110 --> 02:13:52,910 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 41 cases 2159 02:13:52,910 --> 02:13:54,610 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: are filed. Yes, po. 2160 02:13:55,310 --> 02:13:56,370 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. 2161 02:13:57,370 --> 02:13:58,210 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, 2162 02:13:59,550 --> 02:13:59,950 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: okay. 2163 02:14:02,810 --> 02:14:04,990 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, we... 2164 02:14:04,990 --> 02:14:07,090 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Before I continue, we acknowledge 2165 02:14:07,090 --> 02:14:09,290 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the presence of our majority leader, 2166 02:14:09,630 --> 02:14:10,910 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Senator Subiri. 2167 02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:13,530 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Please, go ahead. 2168 02:14:13,630 --> 02:14:13,930 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead. 2169 02:14:13,990 --> 02:14:15,450 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Just a quick manifestation. 2170 02:14:15,750 --> 02:14:18,110 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'm here in full support of the budget of the 2171 02:14:18,110 --> 02:14:19,330 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: judiciary. And 2172 02:14:19,330 --> 02:14:21,930 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: pwede natin dagdagan, your honors. 2173 02:14:22,110 --> 02:14:22,910 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Dagdagan natin. 2174 02:14:23,590 --> 02:14:26,070 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We've always, they've been always supportive of... 2175 02:14:26,070 --> 02:14:27,410 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, ma'am, madam. 2176 02:14:27,670 --> 02:14:29,090 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And we're hoping that 2177 02:14:29,090 --> 02:14:31,690 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: we can add their budget. 2178 02:14:32,730 --> 02:14:32,830 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And, 2179 02:14:32,890 --> 02:14:34,730 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: you know, they say, 2180 02:14:34,810 --> 02:14:37,510 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: justice delayed is justice denied. But also, 2181 02:14:37,930 --> 02:14:38,510 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: with no 2182 02:14:38,510 --> 02:14:41,130 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: facilities and infrastructure, 2183 02:14:41,130 --> 02:14:42,910 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: that will also be justice delayed. 2184 02:14:43,070 --> 02:14:43,130 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, we have to give them... 2185 02:14:43,990 --> 02:14:45,210 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: the full support that they need. 2186 02:14:45,530 --> 02:14:48,130 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: We'd like to recognize our friends from the Supreme Court 2187 02:14:48,130 --> 02:14:50,310 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: that are here. Hopefully, the future 2188 02:14:50,310 --> 02:14:51,810 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Senate of the future 2189 02:14:51,810 --> 02:14:53,990 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Chief Justice 2190 02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:54,870 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: will come from 2191 02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:57,070 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: this batch very soon. 2192 02:14:57,650 --> 02:14:59,170 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'd like to thank them for coming. 2193 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,780 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Honored to have you with us today, Your Honors. 2194 02:15:02,980 --> 02:15:03,760 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you so much. 2195 02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:04,220 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you. 2196 02:15:04,460 --> 02:15:05,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you very much, Your Honor. 2197 02:15:05,740 --> 02:15:07,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Senator Migz Zubiri. 2198 02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:16,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just going back to the shelf life average, can you confirm that? 2199 02:15:16,580 --> 02:15:17,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is it 15 years? 2200 02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:19,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It was placed on record? 2201 02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:23,460 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: That was the record of several years ago, Po. 2202 02:15:23,460 --> 02:15:31,260 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: So, admittedly, it was maybe 15 years ago, the shelf life was 20 years. 2203 02:15:31,380 --> 02:15:33,540 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And then it was reduced to 15. 2204 02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:39,300 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Now, the shelf life of a case was averaging nine years. 2205 02:15:40,860 --> 02:15:41,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Still a bit long. 2206 02:15:41,940 --> 02:15:43,020 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: A bit low, Po. 2207 02:15:43,040 --> 02:15:47,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Higher than the national average of cases in the first-level court. 2208 02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:48,240 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, Po. 2209 02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:53,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, something that the Sandigan Bayan will have to also, 2210 02:15:53,460 --> 02:15:54,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: work on, in terms of... 2211 02:15:54,920 --> 02:15:55,060 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, Po. 2212 02:15:55,260 --> 02:16:01,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But you were saying earlier, as of 2026, November, October, September, 2213 02:16:02,720 --> 02:16:05,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the conviction rate is 82%. 2214 02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:05,620 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, Po. 2215 02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:09,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, of the 535 cases... 2216 02:16:09,340 --> 02:16:09,640 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Pending. 2217 02:16:10,180 --> 02:16:10,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pending. 2218 02:16:11,080 --> 02:16:16,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So far, the conviction has been pegged at 82%. 2219 02:16:16,740 --> 02:16:20,400 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Let me just clarify, Po. 2220 02:16:20,460 --> 02:16:20,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, please. 2221 02:16:20,780 --> 02:16:22,780 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: The conviction is of the cases that were... 2222 02:16:23,460 --> 02:16:24,160 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Disposed. 2223 02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:28,380 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: So, in other words, of this year, 2224 02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:34,640 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: we disposed already... 2225 02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:39,620 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: 356 cases. 2226 02:16:39,620 --> 02:16:47,960 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Of the 356, 82% of those had convictions. 2227 02:16:48,260 --> 02:16:48,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2228 02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:52,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because from 805 cases in 2025, 2229 02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:56,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: you've dropped to 535 cases in 2026. 2230 02:16:56,620 --> 02:16:57,000 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, Po. 2231 02:16:57,000 --> 02:17:00,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You disposed of about 300-plus cases. 2232 02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:02,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 330 cases. 2233 02:17:02,780 --> 02:17:07,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And of the 330 cases, 82% is conviction. 2234 02:17:07,900 --> 02:17:08,400 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, Po. 2235 02:17:08,540 --> 02:17:08,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2236 02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:17,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Did the flood control scandal have anything to do with your higher conviction rates? 2237 02:17:18,820 --> 02:17:20,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course, you cannot... 2238 02:17:20,160 --> 02:17:21,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You can only speculate. 2239 02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:31,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But it might be possible that it became a wake-up call for all of us, I hope. 2240 02:17:31,540 --> 02:17:32,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If so, then that's good. 2241 02:17:34,020 --> 02:17:40,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's one silver lining in coming out of that scandal. 2242 02:17:41,220 --> 02:17:43,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Assuming, you know, maybe. 2243 02:17:43,780 --> 02:17:46,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: At least for us in the Senate, 2244 02:17:46,080 --> 02:17:52,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: it led to a lot of changes in our budget delivery. 2245 02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:54,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It led to a lot of deliberations thanks to our former chairperson 2246 02:17:54,180 --> 02:17:57,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: who made it transparent, live-streamed, and the like. 2247 02:17:58,080 --> 02:18:03,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, somehow, we'd like to see the silver lining in all of what's happening. 2248 02:18:03,380 --> 02:18:08,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And I'd like to think that partly, you know, 2249 02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:13,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: your higher conviction rates now may have been also influenced by 2250 02:18:13,900 --> 02:18:21,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or, you know, brought about by the public's, you know, desire for accountability. 2251 02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:23,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2252 02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:27,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, we go to your structural integrity. 2253 02:18:27,300 --> 02:18:36,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You're only a kilometer away from the Marikina Valley fault line. 2254 02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:37,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: What do you mean? 2255 02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:38,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is there... 2256 02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:44,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Do you need a budget apart from buying or purchasing or building, rather, a new building? 2257 02:18:44,720 --> 02:18:51,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is there an immediate intervention to check on the structural defects and correct it? 2258 02:18:51,180 --> 02:18:53,340 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: There were already studies conducted. 2259 02:18:53,340 --> 02:18:56,840 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: One by a private firm. 2260 02:18:57,400 --> 02:19:00,640 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And this was confirmed by the DPWH as well. 2261 02:19:01,220 --> 02:19:04,380 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And they confirmed that there are structural defects, indeed, 2262 02:19:04,520 --> 02:19:07,720 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: in our building that we are using right now. 2263 02:19:08,300 --> 02:19:16,780 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: But to repair this would also entail around 400 million, your honors. 2264 02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:22,380 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: But the problem is, if we repair this, we cannot stop hearing cases. 2265 02:19:22,580 --> 02:19:23,320 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Where we are now, we cannot stop hearing cases. 2266 02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:23,900 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Where will we go? 2267 02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:31,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that's why you are appealing that the 500 million for the new building be... 2268 02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:31,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is that right? 2269 02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:31,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is that right? 2270 02:19:31,860 --> 02:19:32,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 500 million? 2271 02:19:32,940 --> 02:19:43,580 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: So, we decided we will take the risk, continue occupying a building that is not structurally sound, 2272 02:19:44,460 --> 02:19:48,360 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: and instead opt to build a new building and transfer. 2273 02:19:48,360 --> 02:19:52,360 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Because we cannot stop the... 2274 02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:53,460 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Trial. 2275 02:19:53,460 --> 02:20:00,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But in the meantime, while the construction is ongoing, you remain structurally unsound 2276 02:20:00,940 --> 02:20:02,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in a building that's structurally unsound. 2277 02:20:03,220 --> 02:20:03,660 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Yes, sir. 2278 02:20:05,160 --> 02:20:08,500 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Ourselves, our staff, and the court users. 2279 02:20:09,260 --> 02:20:09,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Exactly. 2280 02:20:12,260 --> 02:20:18,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, in the JBC, the building that we are renting is structurally unsound. 2281 02:20:18,620 --> 02:20:21,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's being built. 2282 02:20:22,360 --> 02:20:31,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, what was recommended is we find another building to rent, right? 2283 02:20:31,300 --> 02:20:31,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We transfer. 2284 02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:37,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's not part of your options to ensure your safety? 2285 02:20:38,460 --> 02:20:40,100 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Not for now, sir. 2286 02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:43,200 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: Rental will also incur additional expense. 2287 02:20:43,660 --> 02:20:46,740 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And we need to fit out the rented space. 2288 02:20:47,140 --> 02:20:48,720 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: We also need to relocate. 2289 02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:51,720 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: And when we do, somehow or definitely... 2290 02:20:52,360 --> 02:20:57,020 Sandiganbayan Presiding Justice Geraldine Faith A. Econg: The processing of the cases will also be affected. 2291 02:20:58,020 --> 02:20:58,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah. 2292 02:20:58,540 --> 02:21:00,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, of course, safety first, right? 2293 02:21:00,420 --> 02:21:00,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's what they said. 2294 02:21:01,300 --> 02:21:09,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, that's a concern that we in the legislative branch in the Senate would like to figure out how we can address. 2295 02:21:10,220 --> 02:21:18,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anyway, if there are, you know, moving forward, suggestions from the court administrator, if there are any, 2296 02:21:18,500 --> 02:21:22,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: because we want to make sure that you are safe. 2297 02:21:22,360 --> 02:21:28,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And if there are some stopgap measures, apart from the construction, I don't know. 2298 02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:35,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Justice Musking, you'd like to... 2299 02:21:37,930 --> 02:21:41,610 Sandiganbayan Associate Justice Michael Frederick L. Musngi: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. Senate President. 2300 02:21:41,890 --> 02:21:49,950 Sandiganbayan Associate Justice Michael Frederick L. Musngi: I was just conferring with my colleagues that as a special court, we are conscious of our mandate and we do have special needs. 2301 02:21:49,950 --> 02:21:56,790 Sandiganbayan Associate Justice Michael Frederick L. Musngi: We'd be very happy to share our special needs through the Office of the Court Administrator. 2302 02:21:56,910 --> 02:22:02,310 Sandiganbayan Associate Justice Michael Frederick L. Musngi: For the reasons already discussed and explained in this August Chamber. 2303 02:22:02,650 --> 02:22:03,630 Sandiganbayan Associate Justice Michael Frederick L. Musngi: Thank you very much, Chair. 2304 02:22:03,730 --> 02:22:03,950 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2305 02:22:04,170 --> 02:22:04,430 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2306 02:22:04,730 --> 02:22:16,230 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anyway, our office is more than willing to look into this as we deliberate on the budget until its approval by December. 2307 02:22:16,970 --> 02:22:17,130 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sure. 2308 02:22:17,130 --> 02:22:19,490 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There are additional interventions that we may do. 2309 02:22:19,790 --> 02:22:20,490 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Let us know, no? 2310 02:22:20,730 --> 02:22:21,070 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Go ahead. 2311 02:22:21,530 --> 02:22:22,950 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, Senator J.V. 2312 02:22:23,730 --> 02:22:24,030 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Migs. 2313 02:22:24,350 --> 02:22:24,870 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, Sherman. 2314 02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:25,870 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I just... 2315 02:22:26,910 --> 02:22:32,210 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Since the topic is on infrastructure, I just wanted to ask the members of the Court of Appeals here. 2316 02:22:34,210 --> 02:22:45,650 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I had initially put amount of 200, I'm not sure if it's 250 or 200 million to help the Northern Mindanao Court of Appeals 2317 02:22:45,650 --> 02:22:54,310 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: because our brothers, the justices of the Court of Appeals in Mindanao, 2318 02:22:54,310 --> 02:22:56,310 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: and I know you're based in Cagayan de Oro. 2319 02:22:56,450 --> 02:22:56,890 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So what I... 2320 02:22:56,910 --> 02:23:01,650 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So what I initially did, being a proponent of Northern Mindanao, I'm from Northern Mindanao, Cagayan de Oro, Bukidnon, 2321 02:23:02,130 --> 02:23:05,170 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: we put a fund of about 200 million. 2322 02:23:06,530 --> 02:23:09,130 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: That was about a few years ago, maybe about five years ago. 2323 02:23:09,530 --> 02:23:14,710 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Any developments, Your Honor, on building them a decent building in the area? 2324 02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:22,070 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Because I can, again, make the institutional amendments for the Court of Appeals of Northern Mindanao, 2325 02:23:22,450 --> 02:23:26,550 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: being a proud citizen of that area. 2326 02:23:26,910 --> 02:23:35,910 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Your Honor, right now, they're renting, if I'm not mistaken, they're renting the building that is being used by the Court of Appeals. 2327 02:23:36,010 --> 02:23:38,590 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Any news on that or any developments on that, Your Honors? 2328 02:23:42,010 --> 02:23:43,070 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda Lampas-Peralta: Thank you, Your Honor. 2329 02:23:44,570 --> 02:23:52,510 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda Lampas-Peralta: May I just inform that in 2012, July 17, the Supreme Court issued a resolution 2330 02:23:53,370 --> 02:23:59,510 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda Lampas-Peralta: approving the allocation from existing savings of the Supreme Court of certain... 2331 02:23:59,630 --> 02:24:08,550 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda Lampas-Peralta: amounts for the construction of courthouses, which include Cagayan de Oro Court of Appeals building. 2332 02:24:08,550 --> 02:24:20,910 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda Lampas-Peralta: And may I also inform that the Court of Appeals building is not included in the proposed augmentation in the present budget. 2333 02:24:23,810 --> 02:24:24,850 Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Fernanda Lampas-Peralta: Only Cebu. 2334 02:24:26,370 --> 02:24:27,790 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Your Honor, if... 2335 02:24:27,790 --> 02:24:28,670 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: May I get the commitment? 2336 02:24:28,890 --> 02:24:29,550 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Because I already put... 2337 02:24:29,630 --> 02:24:30,250 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: funds there. 2338 02:24:30,670 --> 02:24:32,730 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And it goes to the general fund of the Judiciary. 2339 02:24:33,190 --> 02:24:36,530 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, one way or the other, siguro nagamit yun for whatever reason. 2340 02:24:36,530 --> 02:24:41,890 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: If I make the institutional amendment through the chairman of the subcommittee, 2341 02:24:42,430 --> 02:24:50,370 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: may I get an assurance from the Judiciary that we can actually finally build them a building in the great city of Cagayan de Oro? 2342 02:24:51,290 --> 02:24:59,490 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I recall seeing many justices there recently when we took up the BARM initiatives of the Chief Justice. 2343 02:24:59,630 --> 02:25:04,030 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And it's a waste if we can't continue the area development. 2344 02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:09,430 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But rest assured, this budget, I will make the institutional amendment necessary. 2345 02:25:09,430 --> 02:25:15,830 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Just let us know how much you need for the building for the Court of Appeals. 2346 02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:25,880 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Your Honor, Mr. Chairman, I also give budgets to... 2347 02:25:25,880 --> 02:25:28,660 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I have three courts in Bukidnon. 2348 02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:32,720 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Manolo Fortich, I think the court... 2349 02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:33,400 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: RTC courts. 2350 02:25:33,880 --> 02:25:35,680 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I've been giving RTC courts. 2351 02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:38,580 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: In support to the Judiciary in the area. 2352 02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:42,280 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: But this is a big one because it's really the Court of Appeals. 2353 02:25:42,420 --> 02:25:45,120 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I believe the Court of Appeals is based in Cagayan de Oro. 2354 02:25:45,640 --> 02:25:47,920 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, pride po namin yan, being from northern Mindanao. 2355 02:25:48,920 --> 02:25:50,280 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Wala po, they're just fending. 2356 02:25:50,440 --> 02:25:52,380 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At minsan, tumutulo pa nga. 2357 02:25:52,620 --> 02:25:56,140 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: At pag nagkaka-brown out, meron lang silang genset. 2358 02:25:56,220 --> 02:26:02,000 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, I think best to modernize the Court of Appeals in Mindanao. 2359 02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:03,840 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: And I'm willing, Mr. President. 2360 02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:07,960 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I'm willing to make that initiative for the Court of Appeals there. 2361 02:26:08,060 --> 02:26:08,560 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, Your Honor. 2362 02:26:08,780 --> 02:26:10,160 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Justice Midas. 2363 02:26:10,500 --> 02:26:12,000 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Thank you, Mr. Chair. 2364 02:26:12,100 --> 02:26:15,560 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Just in response to the query of Senator Subiri. 2365 02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:20,640 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: We have a judicial complex in Cagayan de Oro. 2366 02:26:20,900 --> 02:26:24,340 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: We're coming up with a judicial complex in Cagayan de Oro. 2367 02:26:24,680 --> 02:26:26,960 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: So, it's composed of two buildings. 2368 02:26:27,100 --> 02:26:30,160 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: One building for CACDO. 2369 02:26:30,160 --> 02:26:33,100 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: And the other building is for the lower courts. 2370 02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:41,400 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: At present, there's already, I think, a DAED for the lower courts. 2371 02:26:41,500 --> 02:26:49,020 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: So, we're just trying to match the designs for the two buildings. 2372 02:26:49,120 --> 02:26:52,240 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: For the CA and the first and second level courts. 2373 02:26:52,740 --> 02:26:56,520 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Rest assured, Your Honor, it's being done. 2374 02:26:57,220 --> 02:27:02,200 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Hopefully, we can finish with the DAED before the year ends. 2375 02:27:02,780 --> 02:27:03,520 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: And hopefully, by... 2376 02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:10,600 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Next year, we start the procurement for the works contractor for both buildings. 2377 02:27:11,560 --> 02:27:14,680 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, Justice, if you need more funds for that, 2378 02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:16,680 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I mean, we're willing to make the amendment. 2379 02:27:18,060 --> 02:27:19,140 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Thank you for that. 2380 02:27:19,680 --> 02:27:24,340 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: In the budget hearing before the House of Representatives, 2381 02:27:24,340 --> 02:27:32,600 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: just last Monday, we requested for augmentations for CDO. 2382 02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:36,340 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: And we requested for allowances for that. 2383 02:27:36,340 --> 02:27:36,840 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Thank you. 2384 02:27:36,920 --> 02:27:38,080 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: And we'll do the same for before the Senate. 2385 02:27:38,140 --> 02:27:38,780 Associate Justice Jose Midas P. Marquez: Thank you. 2386 02:27:38,780 --> 02:27:40,260 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: You love our support, Your Honors. 2387 02:27:40,380 --> 02:27:40,640 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you. 2388 02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:41,000 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you. 2389 02:27:42,500 --> 02:27:43,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. 2390 02:27:43,160 --> 02:27:43,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you. 2391 02:27:45,320 --> 02:27:48,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Very quickly, on other matters. 2392 02:27:49,860 --> 02:27:51,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just a few more concerns. 2393 02:27:53,980 --> 02:27:57,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There's a gap of 9.17 billion 2394 02:27:57,700 --> 02:28:03,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: between the DBM's recommendation and your request for augmentation. 2395 02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:04,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: augmentation. 2396 02:28:06,420 --> 02:28:07,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It will increase 2397 02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:08,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: if it is included 2398 02:28:08,340 --> 02:28:13,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the request 2399 02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:15,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: and concern of Senator Zubiri. 2400 02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:16,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Now, 2401 02:28:17,740 --> 02:28:19,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: maybe you don't have to answer it now, 2402 02:28:20,020 --> 02:28:21,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but maybe you can submit. 2403 02:28:21,860 --> 02:28:22,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If 2404 02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:26,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: there is not enough, 2405 02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:27,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what are your priorities? 2406 02:28:30,840 --> 02:28:32,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Assuming we can give 2407 02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:32,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: everything, why not? 2408 02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:35,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But in the event 2409 02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:37,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that the fiscal space 2410 02:28:37,460 --> 02:28:39,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is too tight, can you 2411 02:28:39,480 --> 02:28:41,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: at least identify by priority 2412 02:28:41,660 --> 02:28:43,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: which 2413 02:28:43,500 --> 02:28:44,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of these 2414 02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:47,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 9.17 plus plus 2415 02:28:47,780 --> 02:28:49,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: or 9 billion plus plus 2416 02:28:49,480 --> 02:28:51,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: allocation, appropriation 2417 02:28:51,800 --> 02:28:53,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: are your priorities? 2418 02:28:53,960 --> 02:28:54,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is it not included 2419 02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:56,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: in the 2420 02:28:56,480 --> 02:28:59,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 500 million? 2421 02:28:59,540 --> 02:29:01,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Or is it in the request 2422 02:29:01,460 --> 02:29:02,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: for augmentation? No. 2423 02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:02,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: No. 2424 02:29:03,840 --> 02:29:06,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: It is not included. 2425 02:29:07,100 --> 02:29:07,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2426 02:29:07,960 --> 02:29:09,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The MOOE only. 2427 02:29:09,740 --> 02:29:09,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. 2428 02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:11,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, 2429 02:29:11,340 --> 02:29:12,400 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: thank you very much. 2430 02:29:12,540 --> 02:29:14,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We will be submitting the identification 2431 02:29:14,800 --> 02:29:16,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: of our priorities, Your Honor, 2432 02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:18,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: especially in terms of infrastructure. 2433 02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:21,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But up to now, Your Honor, 2434 02:29:21,180 --> 02:29:22,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we have not received the comment 2435 02:29:22,600 --> 02:29:24,960 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: from the Department of Budget and Management 2436 02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:27,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: so that we can make our own 2437 02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:29,080 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: comment likewise on the same. 2438 02:29:29,520 --> 02:29:31,160 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Chairman, if I may, by the way, 2439 02:29:31,480 --> 02:29:32,400 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: just for the record, 2440 02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:33,680 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: it was on the 2441 02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:35,440 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: 2021-2022 budget. 2442 02:29:35,780 --> 02:29:37,740 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: It's 300 million pesos that we 2443 02:29:37,740 --> 02:29:39,480 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: put as an institutional amendment 2444 02:29:39,480 --> 02:29:41,880 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: for the whole complex. 2445 02:29:42,780 --> 02:29:44,060 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Last update we got 2446 02:29:44,060 --> 02:29:45,680 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: from the CDO-HOJ, 2447 02:29:46,320 --> 02:29:47,040 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: procurement and 2448 02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:49,400 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: rebidding of consulting services, 2449 02:29:49,880 --> 02:29:50,960 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: detailed engineering design. 2450 02:29:51,160 --> 02:29:53,660 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: So, support us for the next batch 2451 02:29:53,660 --> 02:29:55,240 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: if you need. Thank you very much, sir. 2452 02:29:56,860 --> 02:29:57,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: May we hear from 2453 02:29:57,660 --> 02:29:58,700 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the BBM? 2454 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:07,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In terms of the earlier manifestation of the court administrator, go ahead. 2455 02:30:07,920 --> 02:30:11,300 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, and good afternoon to everyone. 2456 02:30:11,740 --> 02:30:19,860 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: With regards to the copy of the DBM comments, we just followed, first, as we followed what's written in the law, 2457 02:30:19,860 --> 02:30:24,100 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: to provide DBM comments as an attachment to the NEP. 2458 02:30:25,300 --> 02:30:28,540 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: It doesn't say anything about providing comments to the Supreme Court, 2459 02:30:28,540 --> 02:30:34,500 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: but we acknowledge that it's in the IRR. 2460 02:30:35,340 --> 02:30:36,540 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: Nevertheless, if... 2461 02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:38,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: After all, they are affected. 2462 02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:40,380 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: Yes, we agree. 2463 02:30:41,720 --> 02:30:53,520 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: Nevertheless, we were made aware that copies of those comments were received by the offices of the Senate President and the Speaker of the House. 2464 02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:58,520 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: So we were advised, we asked them if they can secure a copy. 2465 02:30:58,540 --> 02:31:01,980 DBM Merika Joanna S. Dela Peña-Pangan: So we asked them if they can secure a copy from the offices of the Senate President and the Speaker of the House. 2466 02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:05,000 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Would you care to comment? We'll give it to you. 2467 02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:08,760 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Well, we're number one. 2468 02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:10,800 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We always invoke due process, Your Honor. 2469 02:31:11,000 --> 02:31:19,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: And if there is a nine billion gap in the comment that would affect our budget proposal, Your Honor, 2470 02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:23,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we were actually expecting that we'd be furnished copies of the same. 2471 02:31:23,620 --> 02:31:25,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Even just one copy will do, Your Honor. 2472 02:31:26,240 --> 02:31:29,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Ibigay, ibigay. 2473 02:31:29,660 --> 02:31:34,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we will, when is the budget of the DBM committee? 2474 02:31:34,900 --> 02:31:35,160 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2475 02:31:35,260 --> 02:31:36,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We'll raise that also with the DBM. 2476 02:31:36,960 --> 02:31:38,180 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 2477 02:31:38,180 --> 02:31:40,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So we will raise it with your boss. 2478 02:31:41,380 --> 02:31:41,580 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2479 02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:42,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2480 02:31:43,820 --> 02:31:46,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Another, another, a few more points. 2481 02:31:47,180 --> 02:31:55,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: On the, on the unfilled positions, how does that now, how do you reconcile this with the 2482 02:31:55,620 --> 02:31:58,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: request for additional appropriations? 2483 02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:03,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Appropriations for creation of new positions, when you have, is that right? 2484 02:32:03,540 --> 02:32:09,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 30% of your current staffing pattern is unfilled. 2485 02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:13,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's right, right? 2486 02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:14,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. 2487 02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:15,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's a lot, right? 2488 02:32:15,840 --> 02:32:16,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. 2489 02:32:16,840 --> 02:32:19,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: If you're, what is the PS? 2490 02:32:19,840 --> 02:32:27,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So if your PS is 58 billion, and your unfilled positions is 30% of your positions in the 2491 02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:34,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: new positions in your plantilia, so of course this is maybe a rough estimate, so that's 2492 02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:42,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: about 30% of 58 billion, maybe, give or take a few billion, but that's a, that's a huge 2493 02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:42,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: amount. 2494 02:32:42,860 --> 02:32:44,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That's about 10, 15 billion. 2495 02:32:46,760 --> 02:32:56,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How do you now, how do we now reconcile billions of PS funding for unfilled positions, which 2496 02:32:56,460 --> 02:32:57,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: becomes savings? 2497 02:32:58,300 --> 02:33:05,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the request for augmentation, plus the request for creation of new positions, and 2498 02:33:05,460 --> 02:33:06,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: budgetary support for this. 2499 02:33:08,320 --> 02:33:09,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We will have to reconcile that. 2500 02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:10,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, sir. 2501 02:33:11,200 --> 02:33:17,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You can give us initially your comments, and then maybe you can submit to us also in writing 2502 02:33:17,820 --> 02:33:20,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: how we can defend this. 2503 02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:26,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because if your savings are big, maybe we can, of course, maybe we can do it. 2504 02:33:26,860 --> 02:33:28,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Baka pwedeng doon na kunin yung augmentation. 2505 02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:30,340 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Hindi ko alam naman. 2506 02:33:30,600 --> 02:33:31,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But please, go ahead. 2507 02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:32,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. 2508 02:33:32,820 --> 02:33:40,020 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Your Honor, the unfilled positions may either represent the organized courts or the unorganized courts. 2509 02:33:40,400 --> 02:33:42,920 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: When it comes to organized, they're already existing. 2510 02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:49,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So it is probable that we call it unfilled because some of the judge may have been promoted, 2511 02:33:50,180 --> 02:33:54,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: have already resigned, or has already retired or passed away. 2512 02:33:54,780 --> 02:33:57,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Some of the personnel may have done the same. 2513 02:33:58,320 --> 02:34:09,060 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But insofar as the courts who have no judges, we do assign other judges to be acting presiding judges on them 2514 02:34:09,060 --> 02:34:11,900 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: or to assist for that purpose. 2515 02:34:12,420 --> 02:34:19,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But that's actually the unfilled position. 2516 02:34:19,780 --> 02:34:24,720 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: So we would need, likewise, even if they are characterized as unfilled, we would need a budget. 2517 02:34:24,780 --> 02:34:32,840 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Because there are personnel insofar as those unfilled but organized courts are concerned. 2518 02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:35,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: When you say unfilled, there's no judge? 2519 02:34:35,680 --> 02:34:36,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: There's no judge. 2520 02:34:36,560 --> 02:34:40,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So it does not necessarily mean the unfilled position includes the court? 2521 02:34:40,720 --> 02:34:41,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. 2522 02:34:41,220 --> 02:34:42,520 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Not the entire court. 2523 02:34:42,540 --> 02:34:43,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Not the entire court. 2524 02:34:43,380 --> 02:34:43,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes. 2525 02:34:43,800 --> 02:34:44,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2526 02:34:44,540 --> 02:34:49,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So when you say 30% unfilled, that refers to the judges? 2527 02:34:50,000 --> 02:34:51,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The judge or the court personnel. 2528 02:34:51,460 --> 02:34:52,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Can we have a breakdown? 2529 02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:52,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, Your Honor. 2530 02:34:52,980 --> 02:34:54,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Which would be court personnel? 2531 02:34:54,780 --> 02:34:56,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Court personnel and which would be judges? 2532 02:34:56,940 --> 02:35:00,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But for the judges, what is your vacancy? 2533 02:35:01,740 --> 02:35:09,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: For the judges, we have a temporary vacancy, meaning ito po yung nagaantay ng appointment sa presidente, 319. 2534 02:35:10,140 --> 02:35:15,500 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yung unorganized courts po, 170 or a total of 489. 2535 02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:22,640 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yung unorganized po, ito po yung newly created na nagaantay rin po kami ng NOSCA from the Department of Budget and Management. 2536 02:35:22,640 --> 02:35:24,640 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the 489? 2537 02:35:24,780 --> 02:35:26,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The 489 would be 30%? 2538 02:35:27,120 --> 02:35:27,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: No. 2539 02:35:27,580 --> 02:35:27,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: No. 2540 02:35:30,600 --> 02:35:32,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of the entire 16? 2541 02:35:33,320 --> 02:35:36,240 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 489 vacancy out of 3,000. 2542 02:35:36,540 --> 02:35:38,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Ano nga ba yung courts natin? 2543 02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:39,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 3,000 courts? 2544 02:35:41,740 --> 02:35:46,300 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Ang total po ng courts namin is... 2545 02:35:46,300 --> 02:35:47,660 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yung kaninang ano po? 2546 02:35:48,260 --> 02:35:49,620 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 3,000. 2547 02:35:50,780 --> 02:35:56,100 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We have a total of 2,885 courts po. 2548 02:35:56,860 --> 02:36:00,200 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: That does not represent yung warm bodies po. 2549 02:36:00,280 --> 02:36:01,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So 2,800. 2550 02:36:01,520 --> 02:36:04,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But there are 489 vacancies. 2551 02:36:05,000 --> 02:36:08,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: I cannot do my math po, but that represents a percentage of... 2552 02:36:08,860 --> 02:36:14,040 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 2,885 divided by... 2553 02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:15,380 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 489. 2554 02:36:15,940 --> 02:36:17,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 18% your honor. 2555 02:36:17,580 --> 02:36:18,600 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 18% only. 2556 02:36:20,080 --> 02:36:20,580 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes po. 2557 02:36:21,080 --> 02:36:24,600 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Kasi po madali naman po talaga silang mapunan, ma-filled up. 2558 02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:26,560 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The JBS is very active on it. 2559 02:36:26,860 --> 02:36:29,260 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: The Promotions Selection Board of the... 2560 02:36:29,260 --> 02:36:32,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: In fact, it's low compared to previous years. 2561 02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:33,160 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes po. 2562 02:36:35,080 --> 02:36:38,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I remember when I was with the JBC for that eight-year period, 2563 02:36:39,100 --> 02:36:42,660 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: we were able to bring it down from 32% to 16%. 2564 02:36:42,660 --> 02:36:45,140 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: We slashed it in half. 2565 02:36:46,400 --> 02:36:50,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that meant the JBC was interviewing lawyers, 2566 02:36:51,280 --> 02:36:52,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 30 lawyers every day. 2567 02:36:53,280 --> 02:36:55,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: To fill that up. 2568 02:36:55,120 --> 02:36:56,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So now it's... 2569 02:36:56,860 --> 02:36:57,460 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: 18%. 2570 02:36:57,460 --> 02:36:58,520 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's... 2571 02:36:58,520 --> 02:37:02,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe we should push the JBC. 2572 02:37:02,580 --> 02:37:03,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course, I'm there. 2573 02:37:04,900 --> 02:37:08,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: To bring it down to single digit. 2574 02:37:08,540 --> 02:37:09,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes your honor. 2575 02:37:09,340 --> 02:37:10,340 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: That's the goal, your honor. 2576 02:37:10,500 --> 02:37:10,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah. 2577 02:37:10,960 --> 02:37:11,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2578 02:37:11,780 --> 02:37:11,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige. 2579 02:37:12,180 --> 02:37:18,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So anyway, if you can submit it in writing so that we can be able to defend it on the floor. 2580 02:37:18,820 --> 02:37:20,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Should there be any questions? 2581 02:37:20,520 --> 02:37:20,980 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, sir. 2582 02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:22,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I guess... 2583 02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:24,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Vacancies. 2584 02:37:26,750 --> 02:37:27,350 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2585 02:37:28,030 --> 02:37:28,730 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, there you go. 2586 02:37:29,350 --> 02:37:30,070 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah. 2587 02:37:30,550 --> 02:37:30,810 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Sige. 2588 02:37:31,410 --> 02:37:38,150 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yung unfilled positions and how do we reconcile it with additional funding for newly... 2589 02:37:38,150 --> 02:37:39,710 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For positions to be created. 2590 02:37:41,310 --> 02:37:42,030 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2591 02:37:42,590 --> 02:37:44,550 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, I have no other questions. 2592 02:37:45,510 --> 02:37:52,810 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Maybe just the concern that for your fiscal autonomy act, 2593 02:37:53,430 --> 02:37:54,650 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: that you still... 2594 02:37:54,650 --> 02:37:57,990 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You are still in the process of finalizing the IRR, no? 2595 02:37:57,990 --> 02:37:58,590 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that... 2596 02:37:58,750 --> 02:37:58,990 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah. 2597 02:37:59,650 --> 02:38:03,950 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So as soon as that is available or ready, please inform us, no? 2598 02:38:04,130 --> 02:38:06,050 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: We will do that, Your Honor, Mr. 2599 02:38:06,050 --> 02:38:06,170 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. 2600 02:38:06,630 --> 02:38:06,950 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2601 02:38:10,060 --> 02:38:10,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2602 02:38:12,560 --> 02:38:17,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And then there will be a transition from the JDF to the trust fund, no? 2603 02:38:17,380 --> 02:38:17,960 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor. 2604 02:38:18,560 --> 02:38:18,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Right? 2605 02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:19,680 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor. 2606 02:38:19,700 --> 02:38:20,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Also because of the law. 2607 02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:21,860 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, your honor. 2608 02:38:22,400 --> 02:38:26,140 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And how do you look at the transition? 2609 02:38:26,140 --> 02:38:29,140 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Will that be completed within this year or...? 2610 02:38:29,660 --> 02:38:31,320 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Yes, it's in the IRR, your honor. 2611 02:38:31,500 --> 02:38:36,780 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: On the 80-20% that is provided for in the Judiciary Development Fund, 2612 02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:40,740 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: we'll have a big change in so far as the Judiciary Trust Fund is concerned. 2613 02:38:40,740 --> 02:38:44,000 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: But not until the IRR is issued, your honor. 2614 02:38:44,320 --> 02:38:48,180 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: That's the only time we can share how we plan to go about it. 2615 02:38:48,280 --> 02:38:48,880 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you, your honor. 2616 02:38:49,500 --> 02:38:49,740 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the... 2617 02:38:50,660 --> 02:38:55,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Is it correct that the JDF right now stands at how much? 2618 02:38:57,240 --> 02:38:59,760 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's 18 billion, is it correct? 2619 02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:00,280 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: 18. 2620 02:39:00,280 --> 02:39:08,360 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course, that is 26 billion and disbursement of 23 billion. 2621 02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:11,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But this is a period of almost 20 years. 2622 02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:13,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So we'll just... 2623 02:39:13,860 --> 02:39:16,380 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anyway, I really don't have much. 2624 02:39:17,860 --> 02:39:19,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Just one more, one more question. 2625 02:39:19,980 --> 02:39:20,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: This is for the CTA. 2626 02:39:23,120 --> 02:39:29,840 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The Law on Anti-Agriculture Economic Sabotage Act. 2627 02:39:30,280 --> 02:39:34,080 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: That the CTA has primary jurisdiction. 2628 02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:40,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the complaint has always been that there is no smuggler. 2629 02:39:40,280 --> 02:39:48,300 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Anti-economic sabotage is a non-bailable offense. 2630 02:39:49,960 --> 02:39:57,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And they have announced billions of confiscations. 2631 02:40:00,280 --> 02:40:05,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They have 4 billion, 500 million, cigarellos. 2632 02:40:05,880 --> 02:40:11,120 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the non-bailable amount is 10 million. 2633 02:40:13,700 --> 02:40:19,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So, but interesting enough, despite the confiscation of billions, 2634 02:40:21,280 --> 02:40:24,240 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: there is no smuggler who is still in prison. 2635 02:40:26,100 --> 02:40:27,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: For the value of 10 million. 2636 02:40:28,460 --> 02:40:30,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So you have all these public pronouncements. 2637 02:40:31,280 --> 02:40:31,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Of course, this is... 2638 02:40:31,880 --> 02:40:36,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The whole, you know, the whole slew of the cooperation of the BOC, 2639 02:40:36,880 --> 02:40:40,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: the cooperation of the DOJ, et cetera, prosecution, et cetera, 2640 02:40:41,060 --> 02:40:42,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: to be able to do this. 2641 02:40:43,080 --> 02:40:48,480 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But, you know, it's strange that the public announcements are so... 2642 02:40:49,080 --> 02:40:51,440 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Are in the billions, hundreds of millions. 2643 02:40:51,840 --> 02:40:57,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But when it boils down to prosecution, no one is being jailed. 2644 02:40:57,880 --> 02:40:58,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But there is no... 2645 02:40:58,920 --> 02:41:00,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There is no non-bailable... 2646 02:41:01,880 --> 02:41:07,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Offense where the masterminds, you know, are... 2647 02:41:07,860 --> 02:41:09,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There are those who have been jailed. 2648 02:41:09,180 --> 02:41:12,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: A bodeguero, something like that. 2649 02:41:13,840 --> 02:41:16,980 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway, my concern really is, 2650 02:41:17,300 --> 02:41:23,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: what support do you need to be able to achieve the mandate of the Republic Act, 2651 02:41:23,260 --> 02:41:24,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: of which you have primary jurisdiction? 2652 02:41:25,400 --> 02:41:26,740 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: Okay, good morning, Your Honors. 2653 02:41:27,240 --> 02:41:31,780 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: First, Your Honor, I would like to give the picture that we have now in the city, 2654 02:41:31,880 --> 02:41:37,800 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: the law that we are talking about is Republic Act 12022, 2655 02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:41,680 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: and this was made effective last October 2025. 2656 02:41:42,620 --> 02:41:47,320 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: And so far, there are about 16 cases pending hearing before our courts. 2657 02:41:47,940 --> 02:41:54,200 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: And the first case filed is due for promulgation of the decision this October. 2658 02:41:54,780 --> 02:41:59,920 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: So I agree that there is yet no conviction because the cases were filed. 2659 02:41:59,920 --> 02:42:00,920 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: The first case was... 2660 02:42:01,880 --> 02:42:04,500 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: The first case filed was in March 2026. 2661 02:42:05,260 --> 02:42:10,300 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: So that case will have its promulgation of the decision this October. 2662 02:42:11,680 --> 02:42:13,960 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: And as for those... 2663 02:42:13,960 --> 02:42:19,360 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: This is indeed a non-bailable offense for an amount exceeding 10 million, 2664 02:42:19,540 --> 02:42:22,440 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: and we have denied petitions for bail, 2665 02:42:22,580 --> 02:42:26,200 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: and there are presently incarcerated, Your Honor. 2666 02:42:26,200 --> 02:42:31,930 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: Thank you. 2667 02:42:33,530 --> 02:42:35,870 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The driver... 2668 02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:38,790 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: Yes, Your Honor. 2669 02:42:38,850 --> 02:42:45,250 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: There are indeed drivers and passengers who are also included in the information. 2670 02:42:45,910 --> 02:42:50,210 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: But in the cases that we have been hearing, at least in our division, 2671 02:42:51,030 --> 02:42:55,970 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: the supposed importer or the owner are also presently detained. 2672 02:42:56,490 --> 02:42:57,250 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay, okay. 2673 02:42:57,810 --> 02:43:00,130 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: I don't want you to go into the merits of the case, 2674 02:43:00,130 --> 02:43:05,110 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: but it's enough to know that that's the status of the case. 2675 02:43:05,110 --> 02:43:06,670 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And we hope there'll be more. 2676 02:43:13,160 --> 02:43:13,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Oh, yeah. 2677 02:43:14,120 --> 02:43:17,820 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the establishment of your courts in the Visayas and Mindanao, 2678 02:43:17,940 --> 02:43:18,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: is that... 2679 02:43:18,620 --> 02:43:19,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: How is that... 2680 02:43:21,060 --> 02:43:22,940 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Under the law, you have... 2681 02:43:22,940 --> 02:43:24,700 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: Under the law, yes, Senator. 2682 02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:33,540 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: There is that provision in the law that allows us to create new courts in the Visayas and also in Mindanao. 2683 02:43:33,540 --> 02:43:37,480 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: But so far, with the number of cases that we have been receiving, 2684 02:43:37,800 --> 02:43:40,100 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: for our discussion last NBank, 2685 02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:47,000 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: we are not really pushing it this time because of the minimal number of cases being filed. 2686 02:43:48,140 --> 02:43:48,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yeah. 2687 02:43:48,660 --> 02:43:56,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Well, I just wanted this on record so that to inform also our justices and our judges. 2688 02:43:58,000 --> 02:44:07,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know, agriculture smuggling is killing the local farming and fishing sector. 2689 02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:10,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And our food security is compromised. 2690 02:44:10,520 --> 02:44:12,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Not just food security, food safety. 2691 02:44:13,500 --> 02:44:22,140 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Because what we are hearing is what are meant to be condemned in China are smuggled here, 2692 02:44:23,540 --> 02:44:30,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: washed with formalin, and then brought into the wet markets. 2693 02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:35,400 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So this is yung salvage value. 2694 02:44:35,400 --> 02:44:37,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Bibili ng patapon nang mura, 2695 02:44:37,260 --> 02:44:37,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: tapos 2696 02:44:37,780 --> 02:44:42,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ibebenta dito nang mataas na presyo. 2697 02:44:43,040 --> 02:44:48,880 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that's not just a health risk. 2698 02:44:49,060 --> 02:44:52,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: It's also undermines our food security. 2699 02:44:53,520 --> 02:44:59,620 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Pag walang kalaban-laban yung mga magsasaka natin sa presyo na pinapasok, 2700 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:18,200 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: hindi na nga tiyak yung kaligtasan mo, 'di ba? Tapos pinapatay pa yung local na industry. That's why smuggling of agricultural products is something that we really have to go hammer and tongs in addressing. 2701 02:45:18,640 --> 02:45:20,100 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: I agree, Your Honor. 2702 02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:30,820 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: And I would like also to share that we have already drafted our own rules insofar as the application of search warrants and seizure orders from these smuggled goods. 2703 02:45:31,480 --> 02:45:39,900 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: So this was made effective last July 1, so just barely eight months after the promulgation or the enactment of the law. 2704 02:45:40,060 --> 02:45:47,220 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: So this is already in place to facilitate the easier filing of the search warrants and SOs before the CTA. 2705 02:45:47,220 --> 02:45:49,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And in our anti-smuggling activity. 2706 02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:52,500 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Agri-smuggling hearings in the Committee on Agriculture. 2707 02:45:54,120 --> 02:46:04,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know, in the last three years, the biggest, the billion peso importer of rice, you know, who was given the necessary permits. 2708 02:46:05,220 --> 02:46:07,780 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Five of them were able to import. 2709 02:46:08,700 --> 02:46:12,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: They were the largest and their addresses were the same street. 2710 02:46:15,960 --> 02:46:19,920 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And the corporate secretary of one was a. 2711 02:46:20,100 --> 02:46:21,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Married to a jeepney driver. 2712 02:46:22,440 --> 02:46:25,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: The corporate secretary of the other one was. 2713 02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:29,320 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Was the wife of the jeepney driver. 2714 02:46:30,760 --> 02:46:33,560 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: You know, it's, you know, it's really. 2715 02:46:33,560 --> 02:46:44,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: And that's why the anti-corruption, that's why 10 million non-bailable is critical in terms of enforcement so that. 2716 02:46:48,180 --> 02:46:50,060 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: But anyway. 2717 02:46:50,100 --> 02:46:58,280 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Having said that, whatever the CTA needs in terms of support, if we can augment your budgets, we will do so. 2718 02:46:59,280 --> 02:47:05,540 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So that we can fight smuggling and ensure our food security. 2719 02:47:06,060 --> 02:47:06,840 CTA Associate Justice Jean Marie A. Bacorro-Villena: Thank you, Senator. 2720 02:47:07,140 --> 02:47:09,220 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Are there other questions from our. 2721 02:47:13,040 --> 02:47:13,100 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes. 2722 02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:14,260 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2723 02:47:14,560 --> 02:47:16,800 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: So there being no other questions, there's a motion. 2724 02:47:16,800 --> 02:47:20,040 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: I move, Your Honor, our chairman of the subcommittee. 2725 02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:28,860 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: That we approve on committee level, the budget of the Supreme Court, Court of Tax Appeals, the Court of Appeals and the 2726 02:47:28,860 --> 02:47:33,980 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Sandiganbayan and all other attached agencies with the codicil that we can increase their budget. 2727 02:47:33,980 --> 02:47:34,480 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Your Honor. 2728 02:47:35,480 --> 02:47:36,180 Senator Juan Miguel "Migz" F. Zubiri: Thank you, Mr. 2729 02:47:36,440 --> 02:47:37,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Moved and seconded. 2730 02:47:38,660 --> 02:47:47,860 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: There being no further questions, and because of the motion duly seconded, the budget of the Judiciary is deemed submitted to plenary. 2731 02:47:48,600 --> 02:47:48,900 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Okay. 2732 02:47:48,900 --> 02:48:12,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you, Justice Estoresta, the Honorable Justice Marquez, Justice Alameda, Justice Justice Lopez to our honorable judges and justices of this Court of Appeals of the Sandigan Bayan Court of Tax Appeals, of course, our Court Administrator's Office and to everyone. 2733 02:48:12,680 --> 02:48:17,040 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Magandang tanghali. Maraming, maraming salamat. Our overwhelming thanks po, Your Honor. 2734 02:48:17,080 --> 02:48:18,420 Court Administrator Theresa Dolores Gomez-Estoesta: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. 2735 02:48:18,900 --> 02:48:25,720 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Yes, the committee hearing of the subcommittee G of the Committee on Finance is suspended. 2736 02:48:26,200 --> 02:48:26,960 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Thank you very much. 2737 02:48:27,020 --> 02:48:27,420 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: Good afternoon. 2738 02:48:27,420 --> 02:48:27,680 Senator Francis Kiko Pangilinan: ...