# House Committee on Appropriations: DSWD - September 8, 2026

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**[00:00:00.000] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000001)  
The Fiscal Year 2027 General Appropriations Bill is hereby resumed.

**[00:00:11.280] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000002)  
Committee Secretary, please acknowledge the members present and the resource persons present today.

**[00:00:21.220] Committee Secretary** (asr-000003)  
Good morning. We would like to acknowledge the presence of House members for today's budget hearing.

**[00:00:28.080] Committee Secretary** (asr-000004)  
We have Vice Chairperson Jaycee Ramanava, Deputy Majority Leader Jan Baronda, Deputy Minority Leader Percival Perci Zendanya,

**[00:00:41.600] Committee Secretary** (asr-000005)  
Vice Chair Jan Tracy Cagas, Rep. Salvador Plato, Rep. Adrian Amatong, Vice Chair Monique Lagdameo,

**[00:00:51.920] Committee Secretary** (asr-000006)  
Vice Chair Jose Alvarez, Vice Chair Rodolfo Ampong-Ordanez, Vice Chair Maria Isabel,

**[00:00:58.080] Committee Secretary** (asr-000007)  
Deputy Speaker Mercedes Alvarez, Vice Chair Brian Poe, Vice Chair Jan Jasneel Babayac, Vice Chair Francisco Lalo Matugas,

**[00:01:10.200] Committee Secretary** (asr-000008)  
Rep. Dada Kiram Ismula, Rep. Carlos Andres Luria, Rep. Sarah Jane Ilago, Rep. Mauricio Domogan, Rep. Milagros Aquino Magsaysay.

**[00:01:21.480] Committee Secretary** (asr-000009)  
Likewise, the Committee would like to acknowledge the presence of the Department of Social Welfare and Development, headed by its

**[00:01:28.180] Committee Secretary** (asr-000012)  
Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[00:01:31.640] Committee Secretary** (asr-000013)  
We also have Undersecretary Evelyn Arribon, OSEC Group,

**[00:01:36.660] Committee Secretary** (asr-000014)  
Undersecretary Adonis P. Zulit, for Policy and Planning Group,

**[00:01:41.160] Committee Secretary** (asr-000015)  
Undersecretary Edward Justine R. Orden, for General Administration and Support Services Group.

**[00:01:48.960] Committee Secretary** (asr-000016)  
We have also Undersecretary Diana Rose S. Cahipe, for Disaster Response Management Group,

**[00:01:55.320] Committee Secretary** (asr-000017)  
Undersecretary Denise Florence Bernos-Bragas, for Regulatory Services and Institutional Development Group,

**[00:02:03.640] Committee Secretary** (asr-000018)  
Undersecretary Alan A. Tanjusay, for Peace and Development Group,

**[00:02:08.660] Committee Secretary** (asr-000019)  
Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay, for Innovations and Program Development Group,

**[00:02:13.720] Committee Secretary** (asr-000020)  
Undersecretary Patima Alia O. Dimaporo, for Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs Group,

**[00:02:21.420] Committee Secretary** (asr-000021)  
Undersecretary Ellen Pasion, for Special Committee, for ESEC,

**[00:02:25.320] Committee Secretary** (asr-000022)  
Undersecretary LBGTQIA+.

**[00:02:27.400] Committee Secretary** (asr-000023)  
And also we have the Attached and Supervised Agencies,

**[00:02:31.860] Committee Secretary** (asr-000024)  
Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales, for Council for the Welfare of Children,

**[00:02:36.900] Committee Secretary** (asr-000025)  
Executive Director Glenda D. Relova, National Council on Disability Affairs,

**[00:02:41.960] Committee Secretary** (asr-000026)  
Executive Director Maria Gabriela Concepcion, National Authority for Child Care,

**[00:02:46.620] Committee Secretary** (asr-000027)  
Executive Director Tricia Claire Oco, Juvenile Justice and Welfare Council,

**[00:02:51.900] Committee Secretary** (asr-000028)  
Secretary Lope B. Santos III, National Anti-Public,

**[00:02:55.320] Committee Secretary** (asr-000029)  
Chairperson Michelle Ann B. Gonzalez, for Presidential Commission for the Urban Poor,

**[00:03:03.540] Committee Secretary** (asr-000030)  
Executive Director Anna Marie C. Calapit, for National Commission of Senior Citizens,

**[00:03:10.240] Committee Secretary** (asr-000031)  
and for our Regional Directors, we also have Director Michael Joseph Lorico, for NCR,

**[00:03:17.020] Committee Secretary** (asr-000032)  
Director Enrique H. Gascon Jr., for CAR, Director Maria Angela Gopalan, for Region 1,

**[00:03:23.100] Committee Secretary** (asr-000033)  
Director Lucia Allan, for Region 2,

**[00:03:25.320] Committee Secretary** (asr-000034)  
Director Vinos Riboldella, for Region 3,

**[00:03:28.260] Committee Secretary** (asr-000035)  
Director Barichua Calabarzon, Director Princess Bajillidad, for Mimaropa,

**[00:03:35.160] Committee Secretary** (asr-000036)  
Director Norman Laurio, for Region 5, Director Osilito Estember, for Region 6,

**[00:03:40.680] Committee Secretary** (asr-000037)  
Director Arwin O. Razo, for NIR, Director Shalyn Marie Lucero, for Region 7,

**[00:03:48.240] Committee Secretary** (asr-000038)  
Director Grace Subong, for Region 8, Director Riduan Haji Mudin, for Region 9,

**[00:03:53.660] Committee Secretary** (asr-000039)  
and for NIR.

**[00:03:55.320] Committee Secretary** (asr-000040)  
Director Glo Felia Uayan, Region 10, Director Benchi Gonzalez for Region 11, Director Loreto Caballa Jr., Region 12, Director Marie Flor Libang Caraga, and also for additional, we have Deputy Minority Leader Antonio Tino, and Vice Chair Emery Wanyo Dizon, and Deputy Minority Leader JC Avalos.

**[00:04:23.740] Committee Secretary** (asr-000041)  
We also acknowledge our research person from the Department of Budget and Management, led by Director Ben Gillette Zuniga. And that's all your honor. Thank you.

**[00:04:37.220] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000042)  
Thank you very much, Deputy Secretary. Fellow members of the House, colleagues in government, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us today.

**[00:05:06.440] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000043)  
I would like to welcome Secretary Rex Gatchalian and the entire DSWD family, together with its attached agencies, namely the Council for the Welfare of Children, National Council on Disability Affairs, Juvenile Justice and Welfare Council, and National Authority for Child Care.

**[00:05:35.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000044)  
As well as its supervised...

**[00:05:38.200] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000045)  
agencies, the National Commission of Senior Citizens, the National Anti-Poverty Commission, and the Presidential Commission for the Urban Poor.

**[00:05:49.320] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000046)  
As presented to us, DSWD is one among the agencies that had a lower NEP level as compared to its...

**[00:06:12.170] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000047)  
2026 GA level.

**[00:06:15.650] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000048)  
It will be interesting to note on the fact that we would like to know, Mr. Secretary, on how this would impact your...

**[00:06:30.570] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000049)  
to carry out your programs and projects, to carry out or fulfill your mandate.

**[00:06:37.850] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000050)  
Not only for...

**[00:06:42.170] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000051)  
not only to provide social protection, but as well as to carry out social or promote social development.

**[00:06:53.070] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000052)  
But before we go into the presentation of the Secretary, may I please acknowledge the co-sponsor for the NCSC, Vice Chairman...

**[00:07:15.620] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000053)  
Ompong Ordealis.

**[00:07:19.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000054)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[00:07:26.030] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000055)  
My dear colleagues, DSWD family, headed by our Secretary, Rex Gazzalian.

**[00:07:34.010] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000056)  
Some of our resource persons, guys.

**[00:07:36.750] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000057)  
A beautiful morning for each one of you.

**[00:07:39.490] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000058)  
Ah, Mr. Chair, just a quick manifestation...

**[00:07:43.750] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000059)  
Here...

**[00:07:43.830] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000060)  
We want to draw...

**[00:07:45.870] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000061)  
to a conversation...

**[00:07:47.610] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000062)  
with the DBM...

**[00:07:48.330] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000063)  
regarding the funding...

**[00:07:50.010] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000064)  
for resource monitoring project to...

**[00:07:50.490] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000065)  
requirements of the National

**[00:07:52.490] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000066)  
Commission of Senior Citizens

**[00:07:54.050] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000067)  
for fiscal year

**[00:07:56.150] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000068)  
2027.

**[00:07:58.190] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000069)  
We respectfully ask that the

**[00:08:00.330] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000070)  
following critical requirements of

**[00:08:02.330] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000071)  
the NCSE be given

**[00:08:04.570] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000072)  
high consideration,

**[00:08:06.850] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000073)  
particularly because

**[00:08:08.650] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000074)  
these are necessary to strengthen

**[00:08:10.670] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000075)  
the Commission's capacity

**[00:08:12.210] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000076)  
to implement its mandate

**[00:08:14.410] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000077)  
and deliver benefits

**[00:08:16.510] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000078)  
to our senior citizens.

**[00:08:18.930] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000079)  
Una po, ay ang

**[00:08:20.410] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000080)  
48 milyon para

**[00:08:22.610] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000081)  
sa NCSE Digitalization

**[00:08:25.030] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000082)  
Program.

**[00:08:26.790] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000083)  
Mahalaga po ito sa development

**[00:08:28.450] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000084)  
ng elderly data

**[00:08:30.470] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000085)  
management system.

**[00:08:33.090] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000086)  
Particularly po,

**[00:08:34.530] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000087)  
for the implementation of Republic Act

**[00:08:36.590] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000088)  
No. 11982

**[00:08:38.130] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000089)  
or the Expanded

**[00:08:40.930] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000090)  
Centenarian Act.

**[00:08:42.550] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000091)  
Currently, we have an estimated

**[00:08:44.410] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000092)  
population of 12 million

**[00:08:46.230] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000093)  
senior citizens nationwide.

**[00:08:49.710] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000094)  
Sa ganitong kalaking

**[00:08:50.390] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000095)  
database,

**[00:08:52.270] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000096)  
kailangan po natin

**[00:08:53.730] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000097)  
ng integrated at secure system

**[00:08:56.510] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000098)  
to improve validation,

**[00:08:59.210] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000099)  
prevent duplication,

**[00:09:01.570] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000100)  
facilitate interagency

**[00:09:03.170] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000101)  
coordination, and ensure

**[00:09:05.110] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000102)  
the timely and accurate

**[00:09:06.970] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000103)  
delivery of benefits

**[00:09:08.890] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000104)  
and services.

**[00:09:10.750] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000105)  
This is especially important po

**[00:09:12.950] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000106)  
dahil kailangan natin maayos

**[00:09:15.010] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000107)  
na ma-roll out

**[00:09:16.710] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000108)  
ang implementation na Expanded

**[00:09:18.650] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000109)  
Centenarian Act.

**[00:09:20.390] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000110)  
Including the unpunded

**[00:09:22.270] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000111)  
grantees who reached the

**[00:09:24.270] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000112)  
qualifying age in 2024.

**[00:09:27.450] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000113)  
May mga seniors po

**[00:09:29.070] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000114)  
na dapat nang makinabang

**[00:09:30.430] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000115)  
sa ilalim ng batas,

**[00:09:32.750] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000116)  
ngunit hindi nabigyan ang sapat

**[00:09:34.410] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000117)  
na budget.

**[00:09:35.950] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000118)  
Yung pong mga grantees ng 2024

**[00:09:38.470] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000119)  
ay hindi po nabadgetan.

**[00:09:42.660] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000120)  
Kaya po, ang binabayad

**[00:09:44.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000121)  
sa kanila ay ang budget

**[00:09:45.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000122)  
po ng 2025

**[00:09:47.020] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000123)  
hanggang ngayon pong 2026.

**[00:09:49.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000124)  
Kaya po, mahalaga po ang

**[00:09:53.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000125)  
digitalization

**[00:09:55.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000126)  
para magkaroon tayo na isang

**[00:09:57.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000127)  
reliable database at malinaw

**[00:09:59.820] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000128)  
na beneficiary validation

**[00:10:01.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000129)  
as we address the rollout

**[00:10:03.960] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000130)  
and implementation of the program.

**[00:10:07.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000131)  
Pangalawa po,

**[00:10:08.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000132)  
ang 28.8 million

**[00:10:10.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000133)  
para sa 16

**[00:10:11.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000134)  
multipurpose vehicles para po

**[00:10:13.920] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000135)  
sa mga regional offices.

**[00:10:16.860] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000136)  
Nationwide po,

**[00:10:18.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000137)  
ang mandato ng NCIC.

**[00:10:21.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000138)  
Kailangan nila magsagawa

**[00:10:22.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000139)  
ng field validation

**[00:10:23.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000140)  
monitoring coordination

**[00:10:25.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000141)  
at program implementation

**[00:10:28.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000142)  
sa lahat ng regyon sa bansa.

**[00:10:31.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000143)  
Kabilang ang mga

**[00:10:32.180] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000144)  
geographically isolated areas.

**[00:10:34.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000145)  
Hindi po ito simpleng

**[00:10:36.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000146)  
administrative convenience.

**[00:10:39.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000147)  
Kailangan po ang

**[00:10:40.520] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000148)  
mobility para aktual

**[00:10:42.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000149)  
na maabot ng komisyon

**[00:10:44.560] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000150)  
ng mga senior citizens

**[00:10:46.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000151)  
at mamonitor ang

**[00:10:48.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000152)  
implementation ng mga programa

**[00:10:50.340] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000153)  
sa ground.

**[00:10:50.820] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000154)  
Pangatlo po ay ang

**[00:10:56.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000155)  
21.753 million

**[00:10:59.140] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000156)  
para sa professional security

**[00:11:01.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000157)  
services sa central

**[00:11:03.380] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000158)  
at regional offices.

**[00:11:05.980] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000159)  
Mahalaga po ito

**[00:11:07.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000160)  
para maprotektahan di lamang

**[00:11:08.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000161)  
ang personal at government property

**[00:11:10.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000162)  
kundi pati ang records

**[00:11:13.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000163)  
sensitive senior citizen

**[00:11:15.500] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000164)  
data at public funds

**[00:11:17.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000165)  
na pinangangasiwaan ng komisyon.

**[00:11:20.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000166)  
Importante rin po

**[00:11:21.780] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000167)  
na mahiligtas at maayos

**[00:11:23.540] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000168)  
ng environment

**[00:11:24.240] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000169)  
para sa mga

**[00:11:26.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000170)  
senior citizens na

**[00:11:27.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000171)  
pumupunta sa kanilang

**[00:11:29.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000172)  
mga tanggapan.

**[00:11:31.660] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000173)  
Mr. Chair,

**[00:11:32.960] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000174)  
these are not merely

**[00:11:34.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000175)  
administrative or

**[00:11:36.200] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000176)  
logistical expenses.

**[00:11:38.420] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000177)  
Ito po ay mga kinakailangang

**[00:11:40.060] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000178)  
investment para

**[00:11:41.580] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000179)  
mapalakas ang capacity

**[00:11:43.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000180)  
ng NCSC na ipatupad

**[00:11:45.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000181)  
ang mga batas at programa

**[00:11:47.040] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000182)  
para sa ating mga senior citizens.

**[00:11:49.740] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000183)  
Habang patuloy na lumalaki

**[00:11:51.240] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000184)  
ang ating elderly population,

**[00:11:53.700] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000185)  
kailangang check-in ng institusyon,

**[00:11:56.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000186)  
ay may institusyon may pangunahing

**[00:11:58.840] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000187)  
mandato para sa sektor na ito

**[00:12:01.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000188)  
ay may sapat na technology,

**[00:12:04.220] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000189)  
mobility,

**[00:12:05.540] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000190)  
security,

**[00:12:06.620] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000191)  
at funding upang magampanan

**[00:12:08.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000192)  
ang mga responsibilidad.

**[00:12:11.920] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000193)  
Kaya po ang pakiusap natin

**[00:12:13.440] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000194)  
sa DBM

**[00:12:14.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000195)  
ay sana ay mabigyan ng mataas

**[00:12:16.760] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000196)  
na konsiderasyon at

**[00:12:18.560] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000197)  
prioridad sa fiscal year

**[00:12:20.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000198)  
2027 budget

**[00:12:22.100] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000199)  
ang mga critical requirements na ito.

**[00:12:25.120] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000200)  
Lalo na ang

**[00:12:26.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000201)  
funding para sa implementation

**[00:12:29.320] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000202)  
ng Republic Act 11982

**[00:12:32.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000203)  
at sa 2024 grantees

**[00:12:35.480] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000204)  
kasama ang digitalization,

**[00:12:37.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000205)  
mobility,

**[00:12:39.240] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000206)  
at security requirements

**[00:12:40.800] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000207)  
ng NCSC.

**[00:12:43.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000208)  
Dahil ang sapat na pondo

**[00:12:45.160] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000209)  
para sa NCSC

**[00:12:47.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000210)  
ay hindi lamang tungkol

**[00:12:48.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000211)  
sa pagpapalakas ng isang

**[00:12:50.000] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000212)  
government institution.

**[00:12:52.080] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000213)  
Ito po ay tungkol sa pag-check

**[00:12:54.600] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000214)  
na ang mga batas na ipinasanak,

**[00:12:55.880] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000215)  
para sa ating mga senior citizens

**[00:12:58.640] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000216)  
ay may sapat na resources

**[00:13:00.520] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000217)  
upang tunay na may patupad

**[00:13:03.300] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000218)  
at maramdaman

**[00:13:04.680] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000219)  
ng ating mga kababayan.

**[00:13:07.280] Rep. Rodolfo "Ompong" M. Ordanes** (asr-000220)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[00:13:14.670] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000221)  
Thank you very much, Vice Chair Ordonez.

**[00:13:19.210] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000222)  
As now we will be

**[00:13:21.790] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000223)  
starting off our examination

**[00:13:23.550] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000224)  
of the proposed budget

**[00:13:26.150] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000225)  
of the Department of Social

**[00:13:27.750] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000226)  
Welfare and Development,

**[00:13:29.550] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000227)  
we now recognize that

**[00:13:31.870] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000228)  
the honorable Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[00:13:34.150] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000229)  
Secretary, you may now proceed

**[00:13:36.830] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000230)  
with your presentation.

**[00:13:39.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000231)  
Good morning, Mr. Chairman.

**[00:13:42.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000232)  
Chairman Nava, to the honorable members

**[00:13:45.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000233)  
of the subcommittee on populations,

**[00:13:46.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000234)  
thank you for giving us

**[00:13:48.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000235)  
the opportunity to present to you

**[00:13:49.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000236)  
next year's DSWD budget.

**[00:13:52.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000237)  
Let me move onto the first slide.

**[00:13:55.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000238)  
The Department of Social Welfare

**[00:13:56.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000239)  
and Development including

**[00:13:58.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000240)  
its attached and supervised agencies,

**[00:14:00.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000241)  
is

**[00:14:01.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000242)  
honored to appear before the House of Representatives as part of our accountability for the budget appropriated by Congress. In the next slides, we will present our annual budget utilization performance with some details on how we made good use of the allotments and then we will present the proposed budget for 2027.

**[00:14:19.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000243)  
The DSWD's budget increased over the years and for this, we are thankful for the support of Congress. In turn, we made sure we put premium on the trust and the channeling our resources towards people-centered investments.

**[00:14:35.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000244)  
First, human capital development. Reducing and ultimately ending poverty begins with investing in people's capabilities, particularly children, families, senior citizens, persons with disabilities, and other vulnerable sectors.

**[00:14:49.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000245)  
We continue to innovate developmental interventions to improve the implementation of the different programs of the DSWD. Second, community-driven development. We continue to engage

**[00:15:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000246)  
the people in the farthest communities as partners in identifying needs, designing solutions and

**[00:15:06.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000247)  
building resiliency. And third, rapid, adequate and sustained disaster response. This is needed

**[00:15:11.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000248)  
to ensure that the gains in human capital development, particularly in communities of

**[00:15:16.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000249)  
vulnerable groups, are not reversed by the severity of disasters. The instruction of the

**[00:15:22.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000250)  
president is clear. The government should be there to respond immediately and remain present for as

**[00:15:29.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000251)  
long as families need support to recover. The next slides will show our report to Congress on

**[00:15:34.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000252)  
how we spent our budget. For our financial performance for fiscal year 2025, the DBM

**[00:15:39.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000253)  
released approximately $265 billion to the DSWD, both for our agency budget and releases from other

**[00:15:48.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000254)  
fund sources. We are pleased to report that the DSWD achieved a near 100% utilization rate as of

**[00:15:55.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000255)  
July 2026. For fiscal year

**[00:15:58.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000256)  
2026,

**[00:16:00.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000258)  
The DSWD has so far utilized 70% of the agency-specific budget of $262.9 billion. For the Calamity Fund and

**[00:16:10.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000259)  
Quick Response Fund replenishments, 78% of the $9.6 billion released so far has already been utilized.

**[00:16:19.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000260)  
The marching order to all DSWD programs is simple. Work harder, work faster and work smarter.

**[00:16:26.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000261)  
We should not waste resources, and every peso

**[00:16:28.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000262)  
appropriated to the DSWD

**[00:16:31.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000263)  
is a lifeline for beneficiaries in need. By directing our budget towards people centers investments,

**[00:16:39.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000264)  
we bring our mandate to life, protect people in crises so that it would not become a long-term

**[00:16:44.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000265)  
setback, promote human development to improve people's capabilities and opportunities,

**[00:16:49.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000266)  
Prevent

**[00:16:50.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000267)  
abuse and exploitation of people in

**[00:16:53.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000268)  
vulnerable situations. And

**[00:16:55.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000269)  
transform people's lives by addressing structural barriers

**[00:16:58.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000270)  
that reproduce poverty and exclusion. So in DSWD, these four roles are interconnected

**[00:17:06.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000271)  
and social protection is the bridge, not the destination. The goal is not simply to help

**[00:17:12.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000272)  
people survive today, but government must work to give them a fairer chance to move forward.

**[00:17:19.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000273)  
With this implementation track record as a backdrop, we now present the DSWD's

**[00:17:25.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000274)  
Families Proposed Budget for Fiscal Year 2027. The proposed budget reflects our commitment to

**[00:17:31.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000275)  
building a bridge to self-sufficiency for every vulnerable client being served by the DSWD and

**[00:17:37.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000276)  
its attached and supervised agencies. It is designed to sustain critical social protection

**[00:17:43.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000277)  
and social welfare interventions while strengthening the systems through assistance

**[00:17:48.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000278)  
that is targeted, delivered, monitored, and evaluated. For Fiscal Year 2027,

**[00:17:55.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000279)  
the DSWD has a total budget of $241.2 billion under the National Expenditure Program.

**[00:18:01.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000280)  
Of this amount, $235.7 billion is allocated to the DSWD Office of the Secretary.

**[00:18:08.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000281)  
For attached agencies, the proposed budgets are as follows. $136.3 million for the Council of

**[00:18:14.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000282)  
the Welfare of Children, $91.6 million for the National Council on Disability Affairs,

**[00:18:20.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000283)  
$126.3 million for the Juvenile Justice and Welfare Council,

**[00:18:24.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000284)  
$811.8

**[00:18:25.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000286)  
million for the National Authority for Child Care.

**[00:18:29.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000287)  
For the supervised agencies, the proposed budgets are $3.8 billion for the National Commission on

**[00:18:35.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000288)  
Senior Citizens, $359.9 million for the National Anti-Poverty Commission, and $233.4 million for

**[00:18:43.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000289)  
the Presidential Commission for the Urban Poor. Compared with Fiscal Year 2026,

**[00:18:48.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000290)  
General Appropriations Act, the proposed budget under the Fiscal Year 2027 NEP for the DSWD includes

**[00:18:55.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000291)  
its attached and supervised agencies, reflects lower levels, with the exception of NACC and NCSC,

**[00:19:03.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000292)  
whose budget increases are on their personnel services, because of the new positions created

**[00:19:08.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000293)  
and or filled up. It is also important to note that pursuant to Executive Order 123 issued on

**[00:19:14.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000294)  
August 18, 2026, the NAPC and the PCUP have been placed under the administrative supervision of

**[00:19:22.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000295)  
the Office of the President. Accordingly, while

**[00:19:25.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000296)  
their Fiscal Year 2027 budget figures are reflected in this

**[00:19:29.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000297)  
presentation, these two agencies are no longer under the administrative supervision of DSWD.

**[00:19:35.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000298)  
Looking at the budget by expenditure classification, the bulk of the budget remains

**[00:19:40.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000299)  
primarily directed towards delivery of programs and services to our beneficiaries. Generally,

**[00:19:45.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000300)  
the operating budgets of all the offices for 2027 are lower than 2026. As mentioned,

**[00:19:51.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000301)  
the increases pertain to the filling up of plantille position, which is very important for the

**[00:19:55.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000302)  
positions authorized by the DBM. Except for the DSWD, which was granted capital outlay for five

**[00:20:01.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000303)  
centers and residential care facilities in year three implementation of a learning institute in

**[00:20:06.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000304)  
Davao and a warehouse in Iliilo, the DSWD has no capital outlay for 2027. We now proceed to the

**[00:20:14.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000305)  
major PAPs. We will provide you with their performance and accomplishments and report to

**[00:20:20.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000306)  
the members of this August subcommittee what we're doing to further improve service delivery.

**[00:20:25.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000307)  
For the protective services for individuals and families in different circumstances,

**[00:20:29.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000308)  
the bulk of the budget pertains to the assistance to individuals and families in crisis situation

**[00:20:34.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000309)  
or AICs. Although there are also community-based protective social welfare programs that we

**[00:20:43.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000310)  
implement to different vulnerable and marginalized sectors. For fiscal year 2025, we have already

**[00:20:49.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000311)  
utilized 100 percent of the budget which enabled the program to assist more than 9.4 million

**[00:20:54.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000312)  
beneficiaries for the year. For 2026, budget utilization is on track at almost 70 percent

**[00:21:01.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000313)  
of the allotment utilizing all its cash programming in real time, serving 4.24 million beneficiaries so

**[00:21:10.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000314)  
far. For fiscal year 2027, the proposed allocation is 33.3 billion consisting of 29.4 billion in

**[00:21:18.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000315)  
subsidies. Given the demand-driven nature of the program, the NEP amount may not be

**[00:21:24.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000316)  
enough to achieve the same level of performance for the past two years. We have informed our

**[00:21:30.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000317)  
budget sponsor about this matter and we have included also in our letter to the honorable

**[00:21:34.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000318)  
chair of the appropriations committee. Mr. Chair, in a bit, when we get into the discussions,

**[00:21:39.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000319)  
we will show you a presentation that will show the adverse effect of this budget decline for the

**[00:21:46.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000320)  
assistance to individuals in crisis situation and the potential displacements of beneficiaries for

**[00:21:52.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000321)  
medical and other social welfare programs.

**[00:21:54.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000322)  
Your honors, it is given that AICS continues to fulfill its core mandate by providing a

**[00:22:00.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000323)  
comprehensive menu of assistance to individuals and families in crisis situations. But beyond

**[00:22:06.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000324)  
individual emergencies, AICS now serves as our primary tool for adaptive and shock responsive

**[00:22:13.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000325)  
social protection, allowing us to quickly act in cases of shocks which impact groups,

**[00:22:18.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000326)  
families or communities at risk. In response to the national energy emergency declared

**[00:22:23.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000327)  
by the president,

**[00:22:24.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000328)  
AICS is at the forefront and is in the front and center of the whole of government intervention under the Uplift program.

**[00:22:32.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000329)  
Through AICS, the government was able to put into motion interventions using three mechanisms under the adaptive and shock-responsive social protection.

**[00:22:40.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000330)  
When the government needed to question impact of the Middle East crisis to our transport sector,

**[00:22:46.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000331)  
the DSWD rolled out the cash relief assistance to drivers affected by the sudden increase in fuel prices as an emergency scheme.

**[00:22:54.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000332)  
Under this mechanism, we adopted a group-based assessment supported through identification, validation, and endorsement by relevant authorities or partner agencies.

**[00:23:05.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000333)  
This assistance helped 1.839 million transport workers nationwide.

**[00:23:11.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000334)  
A rapid assessment by the SWS Commission by the Australia Spring Programme

**[00:23:17.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000335)  
confirms that our cash relief assistance delivered immediate, decisive, impactful, and overwhelming

**[00:23:22.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000336)  
with

**[00:23:24.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000337)  
an overwhelming 96% of transport workers reporting that the 5,000 grant was operationally crucial in keeping them on the road,

**[00:23:33.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000338)  
with 80% using the aid to cover essential household food expenses during the emergency.

**[00:23:39.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000339)  
Then the Uplift Committee chaired by the President decided to have a strategic pivot from individual-based to household-based assistance.

**[00:23:46.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000340)  
Through the Uplift under AICS, vertical expansion is implemented by top-up grants to help compensate for the diminished value of the

**[00:23:54.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000341)  
grants or subsidy being received by

**[00:23:56.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000342)  
existing beneficiaries of social protection programs. Through horizontal expansion, we extended financial assistance to households that were not previously covered by

**[00:24:04.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000343)  
existing programs but became vulnerable because of the shock. To accomplish this,

**[00:24:10.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000344)  
we used the CBMS data to locate the poor, near-poor,

**[00:24:15.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000345)  
and low-income and provide monthly assistance to them.

**[00:24:19.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000346)  
As of today, we have provided

**[00:24:21.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000347)  
Uplift assistance to

**[00:24:22.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000348)  
5.75

**[00:24:23.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000349)  
million households.

**[00:24:25.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000350)  
We now come to the Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program, or 4Ps, which remains

**[00:24:29.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000351)  
the country's flagship investment in human capital development. For fiscal year 2025, the program had

**[00:24:35.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000352)  
an allotment of 63.7 billion, of which 63.4 billion, or 99.53 percent, was utilized. We were able to pay

**[00:24:44.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000353)  
the conditional cash grants of 3.9 million beneficiaries, which are due for payments that

**[00:24:49.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000354)  
year. For fiscal year 2026, the program has an allotment of 112.9 billion, including 98.3 billion

**[00:24:57.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000355)  
for grants, since the conditional grants are paid according to scheduled pay periods. We are on track

**[00:25:03.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000356)  
in terms of obligation and disbursement. For fiscal year 2027, the 4Ps budget is at 99.1 billion,

**[00:25:10.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000357)  
of which 81.3 billion will be for conditional cash grants and 3.5 million for 3.5 million

**[00:25:17.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000358)  
beneficiaries. The 3.5 million

**[00:25:19.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000359)  
total

**[00:25:19.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000360)  
target reflects our continuing effort to ensure that 4Ps resources are focused on poor and near

**[00:25:25.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000361)  
poor households identified through the latest available poverty data, while maintaining the

**[00:25:30.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000362)  
program's core investments in health, education, and family development. Beyond the budget utilization,

**[00:25:36.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000363)  
the more important measure for 4Ps is its lifelong impact on lives of beneficiary households. From

**[00:25:42.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000364)  
2022 to July 2026, 4Ps has delivered a significant transformative outcome across households' self-sufficiency,

**[00:25:49.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000365)  
health, and education. On the poverty and household welfare, 1.77 million households have.

**[00:25:58.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000366)  
graduated to self-sufficiency. On the education side, 7.24 million children have completed primary

**[00:26:04.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000367)  
and secondary education, while 78,886 beneficiaries have passed licensure examinations including 259

**[00:26:13.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000368)  
top-notchers.

**[00:26:14.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000373)  
On the health side, the program provided assistance to

**[00:26:18.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000374)  
[unclear] beneficiaries of the first 1,000 days grant, contributing to improved maternal health seeking

**[00:26:27.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000375)  
behavior with 83.9 of pregnant beneficiaries nationally having completed that required

**[00:26:33.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000376)  
prenatal visit reaching as high as a hundred percent in the national capital region your

**[00:26:39.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000377)  
honors while these are reports generated by the dswd these accomplishments are validated by

**[00:26:45.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000378)  
comprehensive studies conducted by external organizations such as the world bank unicef

**[00:26:50.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000379)  
peds and reputable firms like brain thrust incorporated and the resource the environment

**[00:26:56.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000380)  
and economic center for studies or r-e-e-c-s in the world bank's 2026 study building the

**[00:27:04.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000381)  
filipino middle class towards resilient futures and poverty eradication it stated that the four

**[00:27:09.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000382)  
piece contributed to a 2.2 point reduction in national poverty

**[00:27:15.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000383)  
also estimated a 4.4 cost benefit ratio indicating significant returns relative to the resources

**[00:27:22.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000384)  
being invested to the program according to brain trust study headed by former neda secretary shell

**[00:27:27.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000385)  
habito four piece remains as the highest rated among social protection programs

**[00:27:32.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000386)  
particularly in terms of education impact it also found that four piece serves as a primary

**[00:27:38.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000387)  
pro-poor program covering 42.8 percent of the poor and that a 10 increase in grants is

**[00:27:45.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000388)  
associated with a 2.7 increase in total household income building on gains achieved so far and the

**[00:27:52.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000389)  
validation by external stakeholders the dswd is actively pursuing reforms to make the program more

**[00:27:59.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000390)  
targeted responsive and focused on helping households achieve self-sufficiency and

**[00:28:03.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000391)  
ultimately break the intergenerational cycle of poverty that is why we continue to improve

**[00:28:09.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000392)  
programs to implement and service delivery implementation and service delivery as part

**[00:28:15.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000393)  
of the four piece plan to address poverty and support 5703 regular positions were created

**[00:28:22.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000394)  
this year an essential tool were and essential tools were provided to the four piece city and

**[00:28:27.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000395)  
municipal links to aid them in their work such as fds kits ict assets raincoats boots and other

**[00:28:34.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000396)  
safety equipment we have invested on systems re-engineering with the help the world bank's

**[00:28:40.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000397)  
b4 social protection project over the years four piece maintained many systems that do not talk to

**[00:28:45.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000398)  
each other we have addressed legacy bottlenecks ensuring interoperability transparency and

**[00:28:51.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000399)  
ultimately faster processing of cash grants the goal is to pay right after the month of compliance

**[00:28:57.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000400)  
we also went back to the basics of the program refining our policies on using family as the

**[00:29:02.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000401)  
basic unit of intervention and enforcing a three child limit sheet three children limitation per

**[00:29:08.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000402)  
family this ensures that we can really track the impact of the program to a cohort or a family

**[00:29:13.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000403)  
beneficiary

**[00:29:14.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000404)  
this year we utilize psa's data of poor and near poor households derived from cbms

**[00:29:20.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000405)  
as a basis for entry to the program ensuring the consistency of program intake with the

**[00:29:25.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000406)  
poverty statistics this explains the adjustment in our physical targets shifting from 4.4 which

**[00:29:31.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000407)  
has remained unchanged since 2014 to 3.5 million household i want to emphasize that this 3.5

**[00:29:38.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000408)  
million household target is not a reduction in support rather it is a realistic number

**[00:29:44.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000409)  
pegged against poverty statistics we continue to improve our exit and graduation processes

**[00:29:50.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000410)  
we employ stringent social case management and evaluate household well-being

**[00:29:54.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000411)  
using the social welfare and development indicator tool or 3d tool actively moving

**[00:30:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000412)  
families along the path from survival to subsistence towards self-sufficiency according to the

**[00:30:05.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000413)  
statutory program guidelines under the four-piece program.

**[00:30:09.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000414)  
However, our analysis of the 2024 CBMS data and the household data shows that the economic

**[00:30:14.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000415)  
circumstances of these families derived from PSA CBMS data are highly dynamic.

**[00:30:19.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000416)  
Based on validation on the ground, only around 50% of CBMS-identified poor and near-poor

**[00:30:24.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000417)  
are successfully registered into the program because either they cannot be located anymore

**[00:30:29.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000418)  
or they are no longer qualified under the program guidelines.

**[00:30:33.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000419)  
We met with PSA yesterday to bring to their attention as well that the DSWD has exhausted

**[00:30:38.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000420)  
the list of poor and near-poor, which is at 10% above the poverty threshold.

**[00:30:44.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000421)  
It is high time to revisit the statistical definition of the near-poor so that it is

**[00:30:49.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000422)  
not only limited to 10% above the poverty threshold, but up to 25% above the poverty

**[00:30:55.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000423)  
threshold.

**[00:30:56.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000424)  
Because these are households with the same characteristics.

**[00:30:59.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000425)  
The government's hope for the future of all four-piece beneficiaries is clear.

**[00:31:07.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000426)  
Help them while they are in the program and provide them with crutches when they achieve

**[00:31:11.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000427)  
self-sufficiency through education, either tertiary or technical vocation that will give

**[00:31:17.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000428)  
them the skills to have income, whether from employment or entrepreneurship.

**[00:31:22.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000429)  
With this recent enactment of Republic Act No. 12325, tertiary education subsidies now

**[00:31:28.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000430)  
prioritizes four-piece beneficiaries, guaranteeing our youth top-tier access to college and vocational

**[00:31:34.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000431)  
degrees.

**[00:31:37.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000432)  
On disaster response, QRF provides the DSWD the flexibility to immediately respond and

**[00:31:42.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000433)  
provide timely assistance before, during, and after emergencies.

**[00:31:46.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000434)  
Our accomplishments on QRF use has been encouraging.

**[00:31:52.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000435)  
We would like the families affected by disaster to feel that government is present during

**[00:31:56.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000436)  
the times that they need us.

**[00:31:57.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000437)  
We have a range of assistance.

**[00:31:58.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000438)  
We have already utilized 100% of the 2025 allotment and replenishments.

**[00:32:02.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000439)  
For 2026, we have utilized 10.4 billion of the 12.6 billion released from QRF.

**[00:32:09.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000440)  
Our strategy on disaster response is simple.

**[00:32:12.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000441)  
Try to be omnipresent and always armed with adequate relief on food and non-food items.

**[00:32:18.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000442)  
We now have a nationwide network of 1,031 warehouses with pre-positioned goods with

**[00:32:24.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000443)  
a storage capacity of more than 5.1 million family-focused.

**[00:32:28.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000444)  
We have a total of 3.4 million food boxes and a current stockpile of 3.4 million FFPs

**[00:32:32.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000445)  
as of September 4, 2023.

**[00:32:35.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000446)  
We have also modernized production in our disaster resource center, allowing us to produce

**[00:32:39.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000447)  
up to 63,000 FFPs per 8-hour shift and replenish stocks immediately when needed.

**[00:32:45.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000448)  
In 2025 alone, we produce 7.2 family food boxes nationwide.

**[00:32:50.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000449)  
These are complemented by emergency cash transfers and cash for work providing immediate financial

**[00:32:55.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000450)  
support while helping affected families recover and rebuild

**[00:32:58.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000452)  
their livelihoods. In 2025, 1.3 million families received financial relief through emergency cash transfers

**[00:33:05.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000453)  
and cash for work.

**[00:33:07.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000454)  
Another major investment is social pension for indigent senior citizens.

**[00:33:13.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000455)  
For elderly beneficiaries, social pension provides an important layer of income security.

**[00:33:18.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000456)  
For 2025, we have served 4.11 million beneficiaries for 2026.

**[00:33:25.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000457)  
Our utilization stands at 77.74.

**[00:33:27.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000458)  
Because we are in the progress process of enrolling new beneficiaries, the goal is to

**[00:33:32.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000459)  
serve as many older persons using our allotment of 51 billion pesos.

**[00:33:37.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000460)  
For 2027, our NEP is at 51.6 billion, of which 50.8 billion is allocated for subsidies.

**[00:33:45.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000461)  
Based on available CBMS data, we estimate that at least 550,000 older persons remain

**[00:33:52.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000462)  
unserved.

**[00:33:54.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000463)  
We therefore appeal to this honorable

**[00:33:55.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000465)  
August body to cover these older persons under our program next year.

**[00:34:00.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000466)  
For the social pension program, we made a strategic shift to make implementation simpler,

**[00:34:05.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000467)  
fairer and more responsive to older persons.

**[00:34:09.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000468)  
This supports our goal of achieving the progressive realization of universal social pension.

**[00:34:13.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000469)  
First, we remove administrative barriers.

**[00:34:16.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000470)  
We recognize that older persons already face multiple vulnerabilities because of age.

**[00:34:21.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000471)  
So we no longer require them to provide that they are frail or sickly to qualify.

**[00:34:26.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000472)  
issued a memorandum circular where eligibility centers on a simple proof of age wherever they

**[00:34:32.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000473)  
may reside with enrollment prioritized strictly by age patanda requirement your mr chair second

**[00:34:40.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000474)  
we shifted to psa data driven targeting there is no need to apply as a rule when your name is in

**[00:34:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000475)  
the cbms data upon confirmation from sss gsis p vow that you are not a pensioner you will be

**[00:34:53.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000476)  
located by our field personnel to validate eligibility under our program guidelines

**[00:34:58.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000477)  
this is our default process but we found many eligible older persons were still not

**[00:35:04.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000478)  
we're still being missed so under a new policy we introduce an on-demand application including

**[00:35:10.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000479)  
referrals from lgus for those 70 years old and above if you belong to that age category and you

**[00:35:16.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000480)  
are not in the cbms data we will process your application by checking with psa if you are in

**[00:35:21.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000481)  
their civil registry

**[00:35:23.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000482)  
meaning the birth registry and at the same time not in the death registry making the process

**[00:35:28.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000483)  
easier for older persons this presupposes as well cross-checking that you are not an active

**[00:35:34.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000484)  
pensioner and finally looking beyond the traditional welfare the swd's leading regional

**[00:35:40.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000485)  
efforts across asean to unlocking the potential of the silver economy recognizing older persons

**[00:35:46.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000486)  
not only as beneficiaries but also contributors to the community and the economy social pen

**[00:35:52.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000487)  
protection must not stop

**[00:35:53.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000488)  
providing assistance through the sustainable livelihood program we help families and

**[00:35:57.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000489)  
communities develop opportunities to generate income and become economically self-reliant

**[00:36:01.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000490)  
the program represents an important bridge between social protection and economic empowerment

**[00:36:06.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000491)  
for fiscal year 2025 slp utilize essentially the full allocation with 100 percent of the 6.2

**[00:36:14.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000492)  
billion obligated in 98.71 percent disburse assisting 275 thousand 478 poor family households

**[00:36:23.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000493)  
or 100.71 percent of its target for fiscal year 2026 4.5 billion or 84.29 has been obligated as of

**[00:36:33.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000494)  
july with 186 736 poor household assisted for fiscal year 2027 the nep is at 5.1 billion including 3.1

**[00:36:43.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000495)  
billion in subsidies to assist 251 449 poor household as will be shown in the next slide

**[00:36:53.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000496)  
its financial performance in client reach more import more than two years ago we revamped the

**[00:37:00.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000497)  
implementation of the slp to ensure that livelihood assistance does not remain one of in a one-off

**[00:37:05.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000498)  
engagement but rather a sustained pathway toward livelihood sustainability one of the key shifts

**[00:37:11.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000499)  
through the pagsibol program where we are looking at livelihood development over a longer horizon

**[00:37:16.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000500)  
with a sustainability plan instead of providing assistance and ending the engagement after the

**[00:37:21.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000501)  
initial intervention this is an important step in achieving a sustainable livelihood program because

**[00:37:23.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000502)  
This allows us to ensure that government resources are invested in enterprises that have potential

**[00:37:29.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000503)  
to grow and become viable sources of income.

**[00:37:33.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000504)  
We are also broadening the way that we support beneficiaries.

**[00:37:36.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000505)  
We are not limited to traditional approach of producing and promoting SLP products.

**[00:37:41.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000506)  
We are strengthening marketing linkages and helping beneficiaries become more competitive

**[00:37:46.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000507)  
through new channels, including digital and online selling platforms such as TikTok.

**[00:37:51.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000508)  
We have seen this approach work particularly for viable enterprises, including larger and

**[00:37:56.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000509)  
more innovative livelihood opportunities.

**[00:37:59.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000510)  
The objective is to move SLP from one-time livelihood assistance to sustained enterprise

**[00:38:05.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000511)  
development with government investment linked to viability, market access, and the capacity

**[00:38:10.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000512)  
of beneficiaries to compete.

**[00:38:13.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000513)  
The department also continues to provide residential and center-based services for individuals

**[00:38:17.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000514)  
who require more intense and sustained care.

**[00:38:21.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000515)  
This includes children, older persons, people with disabilities, and other individuals

**[00:38:25.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000516)  
whose circumstances require specialized intervention.

**[00:38:28.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000517)  
For fiscal year 2025, we served 9,620 clients, exceeding a target by 11.34%, while in fiscal

**[00:38:36.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000518)  
year 2026, 8,067 clients have already been served as of this reporting period.

**[00:38:43.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000519)  
For fiscal year 2027, we are proposing 3.3 billion to continue these specialized services

**[00:38:48.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000520)  
with a target of 8,640 clients.

**[00:38:51.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000521)  
Our challenge is to ensure that our facilities remain safe, appropriate, accessible, and

**[00:38:55.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000522)  
capable of delivering quality social welfare services.

**[00:39:00.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000523)  
While we continue to provide socialized care to clients, we also need to address the capacity

**[00:39:04.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000524)  
and infrastructure constraints of our residential care and center-based facilities.

**[00:39:09.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000525)  
At present, DSWD manages 77 facilities.

**[00:39:13.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000526)  
Of these, 11 facilities, or 14.3%, were established 50 years ago.

**[00:39:19.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000527)  
Or earlier.

**[00:39:21.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000529)  
Or earlier.

**[00:39:22.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000530)  
While another 35 facilities are already 30 to 49 years old.

**[00:39:26.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000531)  
This highlights the need to continuously invest in the facilities where our clients receive

**[00:39:30.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000532)  
care.

**[00:39:31.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000533)  
We are therefore pursuing facilities upgrading and service expansion.

**[00:39:36.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000534)  
At the same time, we are implementing a cost-of-care subsidy for registered licensed and accredited

**[00:39:41.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000535)  
private residential-based social welfare agencies.

**[00:39:46.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000536)  
This allows us to expand the capacity of the social welfare system by working with qualified

**[00:39:50.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000537)  
partners while continuing to support the regular upkeep and improvement of DSWD facilities.

**[00:39:57.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000538)  
The Department is also implementing innovative programs implemented under the President's

**[00:40:04.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000539)  
Administration designed to address specific dimensions of poverty and vulnerability.

**[00:40:10.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000540)  
These are the Walang Gutom 2027 Program, the Tarabasa Tutoring Program, and the Pag-Abot

**[00:40:14.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000541)  
Program.

**[00:40:15.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000542)  
While each addresses a different dimension of poverty and vulnerability, they share a

**[00:40:19.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000543)  
common objective.

**[00:40:20.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000544)  
Providing more responsive and innovative innovations to address the specific needs

**[00:40:25.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000545)  
of vulnerable Filipinos and helping them move forward more sustainable and dignified lives.

**[00:40:30.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000546)  
Each program addresses a different challenge, but are all consistent with our broader objective

**[00:40:34.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000547)  
of investing in human capacities, improving the circumstances of vulnerable Filipinos.

**[00:40:39.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000548)  
Let me now briefly discuss each flagship program stating with the Walang Gutom Program.

**[00:40:43.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000549)  
The Walang Gutom Program is the Department's flagship intervention to address food insecurity

**[00:40:48.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000550)  
by providing targeted food assistance to poor

**[00:40:50.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000551)  
households. For 2025,

**[00:40:52.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000552)  
the program

**[00:40:53.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000553)  
provided food transfers

**[00:40:54.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000554)  
to 300,000

**[00:40:55.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000555)  
poor households. In 2026,

**[00:40:58.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000556)  
implementation is being expanded to reach 750,000 food-insecure households by

**[00:41:04.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000557)  
the end of this year.

**[00:41:05.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000558)  
For fiscal year 2027, 1.89 billion of this locally funded project with a physical target

**[00:41:11.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000559)  
of 50,000 is allocated and 3.87 billion of foreign assisted project of refuel with a

**[00:41:17.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000560)  
physical target of 750,000

**[00:41:20.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000562)  
effectively expanding the program's coverage.

**[00:41:23.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000563)  
The Tarabasa Tutoring Program addresses learning gaps

**[00:41:26.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000564)  
among children while providing opportunities

**[00:41:28.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000565)  
for young people to participate as youth tutors

**[00:41:31.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000566)  
and youth development workers.

**[00:41:33.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000567)  
It is designed as a two-way intervention,

**[00:41:35.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000568)  
supporting learners while they also provide

**[00:41:38.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000569)  
meaningful engagement and assistance to the youth

**[00:41:41.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000570)  
and the parents or guardians of the learners.

**[00:41:43.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000571)  
As part of further clarifying

**[00:41:45.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000572)  
the program's core intervention,

**[00:41:47.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000573)  
we are also proposing to rename the program

**[00:41:49.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000574)  
as the Tarabasa Cash for Work Program

**[00:41:52.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000575)  
to more clearly reflect its primary mechanism

**[00:41:54.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000576)  
of providing cash for work opportunities

**[00:41:56.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000577)  
to the youth while delivering tutorial support

**[00:41:59.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000578)  
to learners and participation incentive

**[00:42:02.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000579)  
to parents or guardians.

**[00:42:04.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000580)  
The program has demonstrated

**[00:42:05.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000581)  
strong implementation performance in 2025

**[00:42:08.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000582)  
and is on its path to reaching its targets for 2026.

**[00:42:11.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000583)  
For 2027, we are proposing 900 million

**[00:42:14.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000584)  
to support 66,633 beneficiaries,

**[00:42:18.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000585)  
including 47,595

**[00:42:19.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000586)  
learners.

**[00:42:21.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000587)  
This investment will allow us to sustain the program

**[00:42:24.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000588)  
and continue addressing learning gaps

**[00:42:26.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000589)  
while creating opportunities

**[00:42:27.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000590)  
for youth participation and development.

**[00:42:30.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000591)  
The Pag-Abot Program aims to reach out

**[00:42:33.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000592)  
to vulnerable and disadvantaged children,

**[00:42:35.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000593)  
individuals, and families in street situations

**[00:42:37.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000594)  
and providing them with access to social protection services

**[00:42:40.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000595)  
and appropriate interventions based on their needs.

**[00:42:43.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000596)  
As part of the integrated response,

**[00:42:46.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000597)  
the program also implements the Walang Gutom Kitchen,

**[00:42:48.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000598)  
which gives immediate food assistance

**[00:42:50.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000599)  
while connecting them to other appropriate

**[00:42:52.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000600)  
social welfare services.

**[00:42:54.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000601)  
The program has demonstrated strong implementation performance,

**[00:42:58.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000602)  
reaching 99.48% fund

**[00:43:01.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000603)  
utilization in 2025,

**[00:43:04.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000604)  
with 6,846 clients served,

**[00:43:07.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000605)  
while in 2026, the program has served more than 10,000 clients

**[00:43:11.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000606)  
with a 63.71 utilization of its 807 million budget.

**[00:43:16.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000607)  
For fiscal year 2027, we are proposing 807 million to provide,

**[00:43:18.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000608)  
provide assistance to 5,000 clients. Through Pagabot, we are bringing social protection closer

**[00:43:24.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000609)  
to vulnerable and disadvantaged families, individuals, and families in street situation

**[00:43:29.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000610)  
who may otherwise remain outside the reach of regular government intervention. Beyond our major

**[00:43:34.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000611)  
programs, the SWD is also developing responses to prevent emerging social welfare needs.

**[00:43:40.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000612)  
These include initiatives such as Project Aruga, ProtecTEEN, Project SAFE for OSAEC victims,

**[00:43:46.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000613)  
which also addresses specific vulnerabilities and emerging concerns among children,

**[00:43:51.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000614)  
adolescents, and family. This initiative demonstrates our continuing effort to make

**[00:43:56.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000615)  
social protection more responsive to changing needs and emerging vulnerabilities.

**[00:44:02.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000616)  
The DSWD social protection and social welfare mandate is complemented by the work for

**[00:44:07.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000617)  
attached and supervised agencies. Should this body wish for us to proceed, I can present in

**[00:44:13.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000618)  
brief the financial performance of each agency,

**[00:44:16.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000619)  
or I can present the financial performance of each agency,

**[00:44:16.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000620)  
or I can call the heads of the ASAS to present and answer questions,

**[00:44:19.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000621)  
should you have any, on the performance of their agencies.

**[00:44:28.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000622)  
Mr. Chairman, I think I've read the whole NEP summary, so I will now have to close.

**[00:44:37.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000623)  
We thank the honorable members of the committee and your continued support for the department

**[00:44:40.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000624)  
and our shared commitment to empower people and communities and improve the lives of our

**[00:44:45.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000625)  
fellow Filipinos.

**[00:44:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000626)  
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

**[00:44:47.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000627)  
Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

**[00:44:51.280] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000628)  
Before we move on to interpellations, may I remind our distinguished colleagues that each member is

**[00:44:58.080] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000629)  
allotted 5 minutes

**[00:45:00.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000630)  
for questions or interpellation excluding the responses of the resource persons.

**[00:45:07.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000631)  
When the bell sounds, the member has 30 seconds to conclude.

**[00:45:14.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000632)  
Assistent with the longstanding practice of the house,

**[00:45:18.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000633)  
the chair shall recognize minority, independent and majority members

**[00:45:24.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000634)  
in an alternating manner when practicable.

**[00:45:28.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000635)  
The chair first recognizes honorable uh

**[00:45:34.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000636)  
before we move on, may I recognize first our members who just came in.

**[00:45:42.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000637)  
We have vice chair Kit Mik Attorney Mike Tan,

**[00:45:47.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000638)  
Assistant Majority Leader Johan Monic Bautista

**[00:45:53.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000639)  
Representative Ferdinand B1 Beltran,

**[00:45:57.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000640)  
Representative John Attorney JP Padernos,

**[00:46:02.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000641)  
Vice Chair Romel Rico Angara, Vice Chair Jerry Boy Espina

**[00:46:09.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000642)  
and Representative Yolio Rodriguez.

**[00:46:13.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000643)  
So for the first member who will be interpelating,

**[00:46:18.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-000644)  
may we call on Representative Perci Cendaña.

**[00:46:26.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000645)  
Magandang umaga,

**[00:46:27.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000646)  
Mr. Chair at magandang

**[00:46:28.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000647)  
umaga po sa DSWD family.

**[00:46:32.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000648)  
According to the NCDA, there are 2.8 million Filipinos registered as PWDs.

**[00:46:40.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000649)  
Kaya nakapagtataka po na nangalahati ang budget ng NCDA

**[00:46:45.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000650)  
from 187 million in the 2026 GAA to a mere 91 million in the 2027 NEP.

**[00:46:55.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000651)  
If we're going to do the math, that's

**[00:46:57.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000652)  
only Php32 per PWD. Inuulit ko

**[00:47:01.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000653)  
po, ang investment ng gobyerno sa darating na 2027, kung

**[00:47:06.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000654)  
ang basihan po ay NEP,

**[00:47:08.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000655)  
is only ₱32 per PWD.

**[00:47:12.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000656)  
Ang tanong po ng marami, bakit

**[00:47:14.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000657)  
parang discounted ang budget para sa PWD?

**[00:47:18.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000658)  
Ano po ba ang dahilan at ah nabawasan na ganito kalaki ang budget ng ating NCDA?

**[00:47:24.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000659)  
Mr. Chair,

**[00:47:25.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000660)  
Mr. Chair, una po sa lahat,

**[00:47:28.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000661)  
syempre gusto ho namin na sana maibalik yung nawalang budget sa NCDA

**[00:47:33.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000662)  
which is an attach agency. Pero

**[00:47:35.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000663)  
gusto ko lang pong linawin na hindi naman ho ibig sabihin na nabawasan ang tulong at suporta ng

**[00:47:39.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000664)  
pamalaan sa ating mga may Kapansanan.

**[00:47:41.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000665)  
Sa katunayan, malaking bahagi ho ng budget ng mother department

**[00:47:45.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000666)  
itself goes through financial assistance through the program for people with disability.

**[00:47:50.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000667)  
Yung mga innovation programs namin, yung mga bagong programa katulad ng Project

**[00:47:54.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000668)  
Aruga are also geared towards people with disabilities and their families.

**[00:47:59.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000669)  
So we will provide the committee a disaggregated

**[00:48:02.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000670)  
data based on the mother department spending on people with disability.

**[00:48:05.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000671)  
So we would like to assure the good representation na hindi ho nababawasan.

**[00:48:09.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000672)  
Ngayon ho pag titignan natin yung mandate kasi ng

**[00:48:12.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000673)  
NCDA they were really tasked to

**[00:48:14.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000674)  
one do policies for people with disabilities

**[00:48:17.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000675)  
to to capacitate local government units kasi

**[00:48:20.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000676)  
devolved po. LGUs have PDAO offices

**[00:48:23.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000677)  
or people with the disability affairs offices.

**[00:48:26.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000678)  
Yun ho yung mga implementing arm.

**[00:48:28.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000679)  
So yung mga budget n nakabukod

**[00:48:30.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000680)  
now itong nawalang budget na to ay capital expenditure.

**[00:48:33.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000681)  
Nakalagay po iyan sa libro ng NCDA to provide IT equipment to the different PDAO

**[00:48:38.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000682)  
offices. Kasi alam natin may mga PDAO offices na maliliit ang LGU

**[00:48:42.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000683)  
at walang kapasidad na mag bumili ng kanilang mga gamit.

**[00:48:45.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000684)  
So yun ho yung na walang suporta kasi non-recurring

**[00:48:48.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000685)  
po siya. Pero pagdating ho naman sa direct grants and subsidies,

**[00:48:51.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000686)  
wala

**[00:48:52.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000687)  
ho niyan direct masyado sa NCDA.

**[00:48:54.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000688)  
Lahat ho yan nasa mother department.

**[00:48:56.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000689)  
What I would like to point out

**[00:48:58.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000690)  
also na sa NCDA na nanatili ho yung mga core programs niya

**[00:49:02.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000691)  
for instance it's new program on getting

**[00:49:05.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000692)  
working with development pediatricians to

**[00:49:09.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000693)  
go to the farthest communities to

**[00:49:11.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000694)  
provide free uh um free assessments so

**[00:49:15.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000695)  
that may assessment path yung mga

**[00:49:17.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000696)  
kababayan nating mahihirap na nahihirapan

**[00:49:19.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000697)  
kumuha ng assessment dahil napakahaba

**[00:49:21.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000698)  
ng mga pila sa mga hospital

**[00:49:23.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000699)  
na may dev peds.

**[00:49:24.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000700)  
so ang amin lang ho doon

**[00:49:26.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000701)  
bagamat't gusto naming maibalik

**[00:49:28.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000702)  
ah gusto lang ho rin namin linawin na

**[00:49:30.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000703)  
those are capital expenditure na nonreurring

**[00:49:34.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000704)  
Magkano po yung initial proposal

**[00:49:36.360] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000705)  
pre-NEP ng NCDA?

**[00:49:41.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000706)  
na >> the executive director was one who submitted

**[00:49:43.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000707)  
ED Glenda, what was your initial?

**[00:49:47.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000708)  
>> with the indulgence of the good secretary

**[00:49:50.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000709)  
ang initial po ng NCDA for the tier one

**[00:49:54.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000710)  
is Um 287 million po tier 1 and tier 2 po.

**[00:49:59.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000711)  
So ang nabawas po sa amin is 85 ah 82,145,000 for

**[00:50:06.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000712)  
the capital outlay

**[00:50:07.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000713)  
as what was mentioned by the secretary

**[00:50:09.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000714)  
and then ₱15,781,000

**[00:50:13.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000715)  
para po ito doon sa MOOE

**[00:50:15.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000716)  
or yun pong mga hinier po namin na mga magde-develop

**[00:50:19.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000717)  
ng system at magme-maintain

**[00:50:21.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000718)  
ng system. Gaano po kahalaga itong

**[00:50:23.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000719)  
system na ito sa atin pong operations?

**[00:50:25.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000720)  
Uh simula po ng dumating po ang ating mabuting secretary,

**[00:50:29.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000721)  
nag-develop na po ang NCDA ng

**[00:50:32.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000722)  
sariling system which is the universe of the persons with disability

**[00:50:36.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000723)  
at iba't ibang klase po

**[00:50:38.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000724)  
ng system katulad po ng disaster risk

**[00:50:41.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000725)  
management for persons with disability.

**[00:50:43.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000726)  
Meron din po tayong communitybased development

**[00:50:46.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000727)  
uh database system na isine-synchronize

**[00:50:49.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000728)  
na po natin at ang panibago po yung atin pong unified persons with disability ay the

**[00:50:54.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000729)  
system. So with this system

**[00:50:56.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000730)  
po kinakailangan po naming mabalik at least the MOOE para

**[00:51:00.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000731)  
po ma-maintain po namin 'tong systems

**[00:51:02.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000732)  
na 'to tsaka po para po ma-ensure po natin na yung mga bagong h po

**[00:51:06.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000733)  
namin eh patuloy po silang makakatrabaho for the succeeding

**[00:51:10.770] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-000734)  
Mr. Chair,

**[00:51:11.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000735)  
Mr. Chair,

**[00:51:12.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000736)  
building on the statement of the good secretary

**[00:51:15.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000737)  
and the good executive director.

**[00:51:17.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000738)  
Binanggit po natin may investment tayo sa

**[00:51:19.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000739)  
PWD sa outside of the budget of the NCDA.

**[00:51:22.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000740)  
Pero napakahalaga po ng evidencebased programming

**[00:51:25.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000741)  
and the system that NCDA is developing

**[00:51:28.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000742)  
will be a very necessary input

**[00:51:30.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000743)  
to evidence-based planning.

**[00:51:32.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000744)  
So Mr. Chair,

**[00:51:33.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000745)  
at the proper time

**[00:51:34.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000746)  
Akbayan will move

**[00:51:36.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000747)  
uh to restore the budget of the

**[00:51:38.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000748)  
NCDA at least to its 2026 levels.

**[00:51:41.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000749)  
Mahalaga po ang

**[00:51:42.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000750)  
ebidensya para matugunan po natin

**[00:51:44.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000751)  
ang pangailangan ng ating mga kapatid

**[00:51:46.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000752)  
na may kapansanan.

**[00:51:48.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000753)  
Ah punta naman po tayo sa isang usapin na

**[00:51:50.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000754)  
malapit sa puso ko.

**[00:51:51.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000755)  
Ako po ay isang golden gay na

**[00:51:53.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000756)  
I just turned 50 last Sunday at

**[00:51:56.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000757)  
ah yung amin pong komunidad

**[00:51:58.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000758)  
ay maraming pangangailangan.

**[00:51:59.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000759)  
At sa mahabang panahon ang

**[00:52:01.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000760)  
LGBTQIA

**[00:52:02.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000761)  
community ay hindi nabibigyan ng pansin ng gobyerno.

**[00:52:04.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000762)  
Not until nagkaroon po tayo ng special

**[00:52:07.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000763)  
committee on LGBTQIA affairs

**[00:52:09.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000764)  
under the DSWD.

**[00:52:11.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000765)  
Pero nabalitaan po natin

**[00:52:13.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000766)  
na si Usec Ellen Pasion

**[00:52:15.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000767)  
ay na-appoint lamang

**[00:52:16.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000768)  
noong

**[00:52:17.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000769)  
late 2025. Kaya nga

**[00:52:19.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000770)  
po hindi sila nabigyan ng pagkakataon

**[00:52:21.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000771)  
to prepare a proper budget request

**[00:52:23.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000772)  
for 2026.

**[00:52:25.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000773)  
Um, ayon po din sa ating balita ay

**[00:52:27.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000774)  
nasa below Php2 million lang

**[00:52:29.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000775)  
ang budget nila this

**[00:52:30.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000776)  
year. So imagine operating an

**[00:52:32.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000777)  
office with a huge mandate

**[00:52:34.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000778)  
operating with

**[00:52:35.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000779)  
a budget of under Php2 million.

**[00:52:37.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000780)  
Napakaliit po.

**[00:52:38.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000781)  
Will the good secretary be

**[00:52:39.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000782)  
able to confirm this?

**[00:52:40.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000783)  
Ah, Mr. Chair, ah

**[00:52:42.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000784)  
una po gusto kong

**[00:52:43.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000785)  
pasalamatan ang ating

**[00:52:44.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000786)  
buting congressman

**[00:52:45.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000787)  
dahil doon sa panukala

**[00:52:47.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000788)  
na ibalik yung budget

**[00:52:48.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000789)  
na nawala sa NCDA.

**[00:52:49.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000790)  
Much appreciated.

**[00:52:50.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000791)  
Um, yes, we made representation

**[00:52:52.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000792)  
with

**[00:52:53.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000793)  
the DBM to create an line

**[00:52:55.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000794)  
item actually for the special body

**[00:52:57.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000795)  
on LGBTQIA.

**[00:52:59.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000797)  
Unfortunately hindi ho naibigay sa amin.

**[00:53:01.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000798)  
Ah, the allocation that

**[00:53:03.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000799)  
we were asking for was Php8 million

**[00:53:05.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000800)  
to run that office.

**[00:53:06.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000801)  
Again,

**[00:53:07.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000802)  
uh it is a policy office

**[00:53:09.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000803)  
more than an implementing arm.

**[00:53:11.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000804)  
At katulad

**[00:53:12.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000805)  
ng ginagawa namin sa

**[00:53:13.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000806)  
NCDA na other attach agencies

**[00:53:15.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000807)  
except NCSC,

**[00:53:16.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000808)  
yung programs that they the policies

**[00:53:19.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000809)  
that they create that becomes

**[00:53:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000810)  
programs are implemented

**[00:53:22.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000811)  
by the mother department itself

**[00:53:24.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000812)  
and our operating units.

**[00:53:26.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000813)  
So pag

**[00:53:27.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000814)  
sana mapagbigyan

**[00:53:28.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000815)  
ho 8 million

**[00:53:29.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000816)  
that will give them more

**[00:53:30.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000817)  
muscle to come up with

**[00:53:31.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000818)  
better policies,

**[00:53:32.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000819)  
better

**[00:53:33.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000820)  
research on what the community needs

**[00:53:35.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000821)  
and how pro what new

**[00:53:37.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000822)  
programs the department should run.

**[00:53:40.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000824)  
Mr. Chair, galing

**[00:53:41.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000825)  
po ako ng National Youth

**[00:53:42.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000826)  
Commission during

**[00:53:43.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000827)  
my younger days kaya alam

**[00:53:44.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000828)  
po natin yung kahalagahan

**[00:53:45.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000829)  
ng policy development at alam

**[00:53:47.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000830)  
po natin na hindi

**[00:53:48.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000831)  
naman libre

**[00:53:49.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000832)  
mag-develop ng

**[00:53:50.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000833)  
policy. Again,

**[00:53:51.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000834)  
it should be evidencebased

**[00:53:52.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000835)  
for the policies

**[00:53:53.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000836)  
to be able

**[00:53:54.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000837)  
to inform our

**[00:53:55.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000838)  
programming on

**[00:53:56.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000839)  
the ground. Kaya

**[00:53:57.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000840)  
nga po ang tanong natin

**[00:53:58.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000841)  
ay kung

**[00:53:59.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000842)  
hindi po madadagdagan

**[00:54:00.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000843)  
itong ah budget

**[00:54:01.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000844)  
ng atin

**[00:54:02.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000845)  
pong special committee,

**[00:54:03.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000846)  
ano pong mga programa

**[00:54:04.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000847)  
yoong

**[00:54:05.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000848)  
hindi natin mai-implement

**[00:54:06.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000849)  
at

**[00:54:07.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000850)  
ano po yung pangangailangan

**[00:54:08.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000851)  
natin sa ngayon?

**[00:54:10.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000853)  
Um,

**[00:54:12.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000855)  
right now Mr. Chairman,

**[00:54:13.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000856)  
again, ang una

**[00:54:14.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000857)  
naming ginawa nung

**[00:54:15.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000858)  
nabigay

**[00:54:16.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000859)  
sa amin yyung task

**[00:54:17.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000860)  
na i-house

**[00:54:18.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000861)  
yung new subcommittee,

**[00:54:19.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000862)  
special committee

**[00:54:20.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000863)  
actually

**[00:54:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000864)  
is

**[00:54:22.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000865)  
to find from our own

**[00:54:23.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000866)  
budgets

**[00:54:24.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000867)  
from the office of the secretary

**[00:54:25.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000868)  
from the

**[00:54:26.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000869)  
operations department

**[00:54:27.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000870)  
kung a cluster

**[00:54:28.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000871)  
kung paano sila

**[00:54:29.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000872)  
mabibigyan ng pondo

**[00:54:30.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000873)  
to do their policy

**[00:54:31.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000874)  
work.

**[00:54:32.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000875)  
lalong-lalo na they were

**[00:54:33.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000876)  
doing field

**[00:54:34.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000877)  
missions.

**[00:54:35.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000878)  
Umiikot ho sila sa mga

**[00:54:36.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000879)  
iba't ibang mga

**[00:54:37.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000880)  
uh cities

**[00:54:38.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000881)  
and LGUs

**[00:54:39.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000882)  
na merong

**[00:54:40.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000883)  
mga uh

**[00:54:41.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000884)  
ordinances

**[00:54:42.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000885)  
on

**[00:54:43.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000886)  
the LGBTQIA

**[00:54:44.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000887)  
community.

**[00:54:46.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000889)  
So yun ho muna tayo.

**[00:54:47.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000890)  
Ah pangalawa

**[00:54:48.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000891)  
tulad

**[00:54:49.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000892)  
ng sinasabi ho namin

**[00:54:50.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000893)  
like all our

**[00:54:51.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000894)  
attach agencies

**[00:54:52.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000895)  
the programs

**[00:54:53.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000896)  
are implemented

**[00:54:54.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000897)  
by the mother

**[00:54:55.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000898)  
agency naman ho.

**[00:54:56.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000899)  
So we are not

**[00:54:57.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000900)  
huwag ho tayong matakot

**[00:54:58.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000901)  
na yung mga programa

**[00:54:59.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000902)  
ay naaantala

**[00:55:00.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000903)  
katulad sa PWD

**[00:55:01.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000904)  
dahil

**[00:55:02.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000905)  
the mother agency

**[00:55:03.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000906)  
takes into

**[00:55:04.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000907)  
account these programs.

**[00:55:05.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000908)  
We in fact

**[00:55:06.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000909)  
have a uh

**[00:55:08.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000911)  
uh a cluster

**[00:55:09.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000912)  
headed by other secretary

**[00:55:10.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000913)  
Punay. yung

**[00:55:11.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000914)  
social technology

**[00:55:12.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000915)  
bureau, they

**[00:55:13.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000916)  
do research,

**[00:55:14.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000917)  
data driven research

**[00:55:15.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000918)  
to show

**[00:55:16.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000919)  
to give

**[00:55:17.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000920)  
us ideas

**[00:55:18.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000921)  
on new programs

**[00:55:19.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000922)  
na maaaring ilunsad

**[00:55:20.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000923)  
sa iba't ibang

**[00:55:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000924)  
mga komunidad

**[00:55:22.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000925)  
na nangangailangan ng

**[00:55:23.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000926)  
tulong ng departamento.

**[00:55:26.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000929)  
Maraming salamat, Mr.

**[00:55:27.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000930)  
Secretary. Mr. Chair,

**[00:55:28.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000931)  
maganda pong pakinggan.

**[00:55:29.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000932)  
Meron tayong isang

**[00:55:30.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000933)  
special committee

**[00:55:31.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000934)  
ng LGBTQIA

**[00:55:32.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000935)  
affairs. Pero again

**[00:55:33.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000936)  
po, ang pinakakonkretong

**[00:55:34.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000937)  
measure

**[00:55:35.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000938)  
ng investment at

**[00:55:36.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000939)  
level of priority

**[00:55:37.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000940)  
ay yung budget. Kung

**[00:55:38.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000941)  
wala pong budget ibig

**[00:55:39.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000942)  
sabihin hindi siya priority.

**[00:55:40.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000943)  
So

**[00:55:41.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000944)  
pag hindi siya priority ibig sabihin pink washing

**[00:55:43.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000945)  
lang po ito. Kaya po

**[00:55:44.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000946)  
susukatin po natin

**[00:55:45.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000947)  
ang commitment ng

**[00:55:46.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000948)  
Marcos Administration

**[00:55:47.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000949)  
to the LGBTQIA

**[00:55:48.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000950)  
community with

**[00:55:49.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000951)  
the budget it allocates

**[00:55:50.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000952)  
to the programs

**[00:55:51.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000953)  
of the special committee

**[00:55:52.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000954)  
and the programs

**[00:55:53.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000955)  
for our community.

**[00:55:54.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000956)  
Bilisan ko lang po.

**[00:55:55.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000957)  
Um

**[00:55:56.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000958)  
lipat po ako

**[00:55:57.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000959)  
sa sumunod na topic

**[00:55:58.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000960)  
yun pong RA 11166

**[00:56:00.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000962)  
or the HIV AIDS

**[00:56:01.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000963)  
Policy Act.

**[00:56:02.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000964)  
May mandato po ang DSWD

**[00:56:03.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000965)  
to provide

**[00:56:04.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000966)  
support programs

**[00:56:05.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000967)  
sa persons

**[00:56:06.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000968)  
living with HIV.

**[00:56:07.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000969)  
Alam po

**[00:56:08.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000970)  
nating makakakuha

**[00:56:09.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000971)  
sila ng financial

**[00:56:10.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000972)  
support through the AICS

**[00:56:11.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000973)  
program.

**[00:56:12.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000974)  
May data po ba tayo

**[00:56:13.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000975)  
kung gaano karaming

**[00:56:14.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000976)  
mga PLHIVs

**[00:56:15.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000977)  
ang naka-access

**[00:56:16.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000978)  
ng financial support

**[00:56:17.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000979)  
mula sa AICS

**[00:56:18.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-000980)  
these past few years?

**[00:56:19.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000981)  
Mr.

**[00:56:20.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000982)  
Chairman, again, it's

**[00:56:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000983)  
all lumped under a protective

**[00:56:22.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000984)  
services.

**[00:56:23.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000985)  
The AICS program

**[00:56:24.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000986)  
looks at it

**[00:56:25.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000987)  
from a medical point of

**[00:56:26.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000988)  
view. Yung mga lumalapit,

**[00:56:27.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000989)  
yung mga

**[00:56:28.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000990)  
social workers natin

**[00:56:29.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000991)  
do assess the

**[00:56:30.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000992)  
circumstances of an

**[00:56:31.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000993)  
individual.

**[00:56:32.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000994)  
Uh we will glad we

**[00:56:33.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000995)  
just don't have the data

**[00:56:34.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000996)  
right now. We will gladly

**[00:56:35.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000997)  
disaggregate

**[00:56:36.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000998)  
the data and furnish

**[00:56:37.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000999)  
the committee uh

**[00:56:38.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001000)  
once this hearing is

**[00:56:39.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001001)  
done kung ilan po

**[00:56:40.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001002)  
yung mga HIV

**[00:56:42.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001004)  
HIV client.

**[00:56:43.440] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001005)  
People living with HIV.

**[00:56:44.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001006)  
People living with HIV

**[00:56:45.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001007)  
na lumalapit ho

**[00:56:46.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001008)  
sa aming

**[00:56:47.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001009)  
departamento.

**[00:56:48.920] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001010)  
Marami pong salamat.

**[00:56:49.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001011)  
Um, Mr. Chair

**[00:56:50.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001012)  
dahil naka-lump sum

**[00:56:51.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001013)  
po sa AICS

**[00:56:52.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001014)  
budget as mentioned

**[00:56:53.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001015)  
um

**[00:56:54.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001016)  
gusto po

**[00:56:55.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001017)  
nating makita kung meron

**[00:56:56.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001018)  
po ba tayong nakalaan

**[00:56:57.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001019)  
specifically for

**[00:56:58.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001020)  
PLHIV

**[00:56:59.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001021)  
or lump sum

**[00:57:00.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001022)  
talaga siya.

**[00:57:01.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001023)  
Meron po ba tayong

**[00:57:02.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001024)  
allocation specifically

**[00:57:03.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001025)  
for PLHIVs?

**[00:57:06.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001028)  
It's called—

**[00:57:09.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001031)  
So, and we have a

**[00:57:10.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001032)  
community based program

**[00:57:11.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001033)  
that provides

**[00:57:12.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001034)  
not just financial

**[00:57:13.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001035)  
assistance but provides

**[00:57:14.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001036)  
the necessary support

**[00:57:15.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001037)  
services, the psychosocial

**[00:57:16.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001038)  
support.

**[00:57:17.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001039)  
It's under

**[00:57:18.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001040)  
our Phil

**[00:57:19.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001041)  
Phil HIV

**[00:57:20.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001042)  
and their family's

**[00:57:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001043)  
support group system.

**[00:57:22.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001044)  
It's a

**[00:57:23.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001045)  
program na matagal na

**[00:57:24.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001046)  
hong tumatakbo. It's

**[00:57:25.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001047)  
under the program

**[00:57:26.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001048)  
PS under our

**[00:57:27.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001049)  
operations cluster.

**[00:57:28.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001050)  
It's community base.

**[00:57:29.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001051)  
Again, like

**[00:57:30.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001052)  
most of our programs,

**[00:57:31.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001053)  
we just don't look at it from

**[00:57:32.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001054)  
a financial point of

**[00:57:33.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001055)  
view. We also look at it from

**[00:57:34.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001056)  
a psychoemotional or

**[00:57:35.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001057)  
psychosocial

**[00:57:36.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001058)  
issue as

**[00:57:37.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001059)  
well as capacitating

**[00:57:38.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001060)  
the family and the

**[00:57:39.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001061)  
community to

**[00:57:40.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001062)  
understand the specific

**[00:57:41.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001063)  
needs of

**[00:57:42.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001064)  
each client.

**[00:57:43.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001065)  
In this case,

**[00:57:44.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001066)  
our people living

**[00:57:45.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001067)  
with are our clients

**[00:57:46.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001068)  
living with HIV.

**[00:57:47.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001069)  
Mayr'n po tayo

**[00:57:48.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001070)  
and we will gladly

**[00:57:49.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001071)  
furnish more details

**[00:57:50.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001072)  
about the program sa

**[00:57:51.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001073)  
committee po.

**[00:57:52.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001074)  
>> Thank you, Mr.

**[00:57:53.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001075)  
Chair and perhaps

**[00:57:54.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001076)  
the DSWD

**[00:57:55.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001077)  
through the good secretary can

**[00:57:56.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001078)  
explore further

**[00:57:57.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001079)  
um creating

**[00:57:58.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001080)  
a separate

**[00:57:59.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001081)  
line

**[00:58:00.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001082)  
a separate

**[00:58:01.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001083)  
item for PLHIV

**[00:58:02.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001084)  
benefits

**[00:58:03.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001085)  
and assistance.

**[00:58:04.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001086)  
Napakahalaga po itong

**[00:58:05.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001087)  
makita ng community

**[00:58:06.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001088)  
na available

**[00:58:07.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001089)  
yung serbisyo para sa kanila

**[00:58:08.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001090)  
para nasa sa ganon

**[00:58:09.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001091)  
po ma-access nila

**[00:58:10.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001092)  
ang tulong ng pamahalaan.

**[00:58:11.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001093)  
Bilang huling

**[00:58:12.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001094)  
tanong po, ito

**[00:58:13.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001095)  
po ay nakita

**[00:58:14.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001096)  
natin across

**[00:58:15.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001097)  
most if not

**[00:58:16.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001098)  
all of the departments

**[00:58:17.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001099)  
yung massive

**[00:58:18.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001100)  
cuts when it comes

**[00:58:19.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001101)  
to capital outlay.

**[00:58:21.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001103)  
Batay po dun sa

**[00:58:22.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001104)  
overview ng

**[00:58:23.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001105)  
inyong budget, napakalaki

**[00:58:24.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001106)  
ng cut sa capital

**[00:58:25.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001107)  
outlay ng

**[00:58:26.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001108)  
DSWD.

**[00:58:27.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001109)  
How would this affect the

**[00:58:28.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001110)  
operations of the department?

**[00:58:30.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001111)  
Tulad nung

**[00:58:30.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001112)  
nabanggit ko, Mr. Chair,

**[00:58:31.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001113)  
nabanggit ko sa sa

**[00:58:33.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001115)  
opening

**[00:58:34.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001116)  
remarks ko,

**[00:58:35.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001117)  
we're very worried

**[00:58:36.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001118)  
lalong-lalo na sa mga

**[00:58:37.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001119)  
care facilities natin.

**[00:58:38.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001120)  
Matatanda

**[00:58:39.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001121)  
na ho ang ating mga facilities.

**[00:58:40.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001122)  
While

**[00:58:41.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001123)  
they are

**[00:58:42.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001124)  
maintained

**[00:58:43.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001125)  
to the best of our ability

**[00:58:44.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001126)  
by our people

**[00:58:45.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001127)  
in the ground, yung mga

**[00:58:46.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001128)  
social workers, mga

**[00:58:47.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001129)  
house parents,

**[00:58:48.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001130)  
admittedly

**[00:58:49.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001131)  
maraming issues

**[00:58:50.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001132)  
na umuusbong pag

**[00:58:51.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001133)  
luma na ang isang bahay.

**[00:58:52.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001134)  
So marami

**[00:58:53.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001135)  
diyan mga 50 years

**[00:58:54.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001136)  
old na pataas

**[00:58:55.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001137)  
mas matanda pa ho sa

**[00:58:56.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001138)  
akin. So

**[00:58:57.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001139)  
sana ho maibalik

**[00:58:58.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001140)  
iyung aming dinudulog

**[00:58:59.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001141)  
na part

**[00:59:00.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001142)  
of the listing we submitted

**[00:59:01.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001143)  
to the committee

**[00:59:02.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001144)  
kahit na iyung capital

**[00:59:03.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001145)  
expenditure for the

**[00:59:04.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001146)  
upkeep upgrade

**[00:59:05.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001147)  
and maintenance of our care facilities

**[00:59:07.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001148)  
for

**[00:59:08.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001149)  
poor for marginalized

**[00:59:09.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001150)  
and for vulnerable

**[00:59:10.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001151)  
communities na nakatira

**[00:59:11.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001152)  
ho sa atin pansamantala

**[00:59:12.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001153)  
or for

**[00:59:13.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001154)  
longterm dahil wala

**[00:59:14.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001155)  
na silang mga pamilya

**[00:59:15.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001156)  
yun ho magiging epekto.

**[00:59:16.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001157)  
We're actually asking

**[00:59:17.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001158)  
for 800

**[00:59:18.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001159)  
million

**[00:59:19.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001160)  
plus no?

**[00:59:20.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001161)  
Yeah. 800

**[00:59:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001162)  
million.

**[00:59:22.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001163)  
Yan rin ho yung nawala

**[00:59:23.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001164)  
eh para maibalik

**[00:59:24.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001165)  
man lang yun.

**[00:59:25.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001166)  
And if you look at the

**[00:59:26.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001167)  
the

**[00:59:27.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001168)  
capital

**[00:59:28.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001169)  
expenditure

**[00:59:29.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001170)  
this year, karamihan

**[00:59:30.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001171)  
ho talaga non napunta

**[00:59:31.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001172)  
sa pagpapaayos

**[00:59:32.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001173)  
nitong mga care

**[00:59:33.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001174)  
facilities natin.

**[00:59:34.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001175)  
Malinaw

**[00:59:35.300] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001176)  
po. Ito pong

**[00:59:36.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001177)  
budget cut when it

**[00:59:37.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001178)  
comes to the care

**[00:59:38.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001179)  
facilities to

**[00:59:39.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001180)  
capital outlay

**[00:59:40.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001181)  
ay actually budget

**[00:59:41.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001182)  
cut sa pagkalinga

**[00:59:42.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001183)  
po sa ating

**[00:59:43.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001184)  
mga kababayan. So this

**[00:59:44.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001185)  
is a very

**[00:59:45.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001186)  
necessary amendment

**[00:59:46.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001187)  
that has to be

**[00:59:47.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001188)  
done to the NEP

**[00:59:48.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001189)  
at kinakailangan

**[00:59:49.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001190)  
po talaga i-adjust

**[00:59:50.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001191)  
natin. Again,

**[00:59:51.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001192)  
the budget is the

**[00:59:52.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001193)  
most concrete expression

**[00:59:53.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001194)  
of our priorities.

**[00:59:54.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001195)  
Wala pong

**[00:59:55.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001196)  
budget para diyan. Ibig

**[00:59:56.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001197)  
sabihin hindi

**[00:59:57.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001198)  
nagke-care ang gobyerno.

**[00:59:58.770] Rep. Percival "Perci" Cendaña** (asr-001199)  
Marami pong salamat.

**[01:00:00.850] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001201)  
Thank you. Thank you, Cong Perci. Ayusin mo nga. Kunin mo nga pabalik. All your observations were duly noted. We now recognize Representative Jam Baronda.

**[01:00:19.740] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001202)  
Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Before I proceed, I would like to thank, of course,

**[01:00:25.650] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001203)  
Secretary Rex Gatchalian for his exemplary leadership in leading the department. Mr. Secretary,

**[01:00:35.570] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001204)  
I would just like to ask regarding the Uplift program of the government. We base our

**[01:00:44.290] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001205)  
beneficiaries on the CBMS program. May I ask for the total CBMS beneficiaries of the country?

**[01:00:53.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001206)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:00:55.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001207)  
hindi, we don't have access to it kasi ang binibigay lang sa amin yung poor and near poor. We can give you the poor and near poor.

**[01:01:05.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001208)  
May data privacy rules; mahigpit ang PSA doon.

**[01:01:10.060] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001209)  
So based po doon sa resulta nila, 2024 po ba na PSA?

**[01:01:20.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001210)  
2023, 2024.

**[01:01:25.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001211)  
Ang 2024 na poor data natin, 2,546,846 households ang classified as poor, plus 20% above the threshold. So yung near poor kasama po diyan.

**[01:01:42.540] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001212)  
So sa ngayon po, based on sa tala ninyo, ilan na po yung nabigyan ninyo ng cash assistance for Uplift?

**[01:01:49.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001213)  
Kasi ho, ma'am, kung matatandaan ninyo, Uplift has three different buckets. So we gave, in my opening remarks we said close to

**[01:01:55.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001214)  
six million.

**[01:01:57.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001215)  
Tatlong bucket 'yon. Unang bucket noon is a top-up sa 4Ps beneficiaries natin. That's around three

**[01:02:03.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001216)  
million household

**[01:02:04.720] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001216-split-2)  
yes

**[01:02:06.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001216-split-3)  
3.5 million household one time lang huyon they all got two thousand pesos

**[01:02:11.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001217)  
one time. The second bucket, ito ho yung mga wala sa 4Ps pero categorized as mahihirap rin sila.

**[01:02:19.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001218)  
Sa 2.5 million ang target diyan. Ang na-service na natin, 1.7 million,

**[01:02:27.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001219)  
ng tig-₱2,000 kada buwan mula July hanggang December.

**[01:02:32.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001220)  
Let me explain the gap po, if you'll allow me.

**[01:02:35.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001221)  
The gap here, Madam, Mr. Chair, kaya may gap to.

**[01:02:38.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001222)  
From our manual payout, if you can recall kasi the first round is manual for validation.

**[01:02:44.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001223)  
Despite the fact na hinanap namin sila, una tulad na nabanggit ko, wala na doon yung mga nakatira.

**[01:02:50.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001224)  
Pangalawa, iba na i-invalidate dahil after two years, gumanda na yung mga buhay,

**[01:02:54.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001225)  
hindi na sila nagkakwalify, so they're waiving the rights or the social workers are saying,

**[01:02:58.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001226)  
wag na kasi gumanda na ho yung buhay.

**[01:03:01.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001227)  
Now, there's a last category na hindi uma-appear sa poor and near poor because these are above minimum wage.

**[01:03:08.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001228)  
They're called low wage earners ng SSS.

**[01:03:11.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001229)  
Sa database po ito ng SSS kinuwa.

**[01:03:13.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001230)  
Hindi sila poor, hindi rin sila near poor.

**[01:03:16.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001231)  
So there's around 1.5 million sa kanila of which we've catered to 811,000.

**[01:03:22.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001232)  
Now, bakit ho may gap?

**[01:03:24.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001233)  
Yung mga basic deposit accounts nila based on SSS, kasi automated ho ito, non-existent na.

**[01:03:31.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001234)  
They're dormant.

**[01:03:31.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001235)  
Nasa listahan ng SSS, pero yung mga accounts either closed na or dormant na.

**[01:03:37.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001236)  
So total of what we've serviced so far is at around 5.5, 5.7 million of the 7.5 na target.

**[01:03:47.300] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001237)  
Mr. Secretary, ito kasi 'yon.

**[01:03:49.440] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001238)  
In my district, during my collaboration meeting with your department,

**[01:03:54.340] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001239)  
iba ang nasasabi ng figure ni PSA.

**[01:03:57.720] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001240)  
Iba din sa DSWD.

**[01:04:00.160] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001241)  
So, parang meron talagang disparity.

**[01:04:01.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001242)  
Ako na, ako na, ako na.

**[01:04:03.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001243)  
Mr. Chair, wala nang—

**[01:04:04.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001244)  
Mr. Chair, babatukan ko yung regional director ninyo eh.

**[01:04:09.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001245)  
Nandyan sa likod eh.

**[01:04:10.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001246)  
Wala nang data ang DSWD.

**[01:04:13.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001247)  
If you can recall, Listahanan is [unclear].

**[01:04:16.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001248)  
Hindi na hindi kami...

**[01:04:16.460] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001249)  
So, mali.

**[01:04:17.340] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001250)  
Please correct me.

**[01:04:19.040] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001251)  
Hindi po ganun.

**[01:04:20.120] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001252)  
Iba yung sinasabi ni PSA.

**[01:04:22.720] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001253)  
Tapos yung time na

**[01:04:24.220] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001254)  
mag-payout si DSWD, there are beneficiaries na nung na-check ng DSWD, hindi qualified.

**[01:04:33.100] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001255)  
So, tama naman si RD.

**[01:04:35.200] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001256)  
Sorry ah.

**[01:04:35.740] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001257)  
So, huwag mong batukan.

**[01:04:37.620] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001258)  
Kinagawa niya lang yung trabaho niya.

**[01:04:39.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001259)  
Ang point is, it's good that meron tayong check and balance.

**[01:04:45.760] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001260)  
But the thing is, parang duplication of work.

**[01:04:49.460] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001261)  
Sino ba talagang in charge of social services natin?

**[01:04:52.740] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001262)  
Si PSA ba?

**[01:04:53.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001263)  
Or si DSWD?

**[01:04:55.400] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001264)  
Okay, let's go back to listahanan.

**[01:04:57.620] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001265)  
I have very bad experience kasi with listahanan.

**[01:05:00.900] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001266)  
During my first term as Congresswoman in 2019, may lista po si Listahanan.

**[01:05:06.440] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001267)  
Unfortunately, in March 17, 2020, nagkaroon ng lockdown because of COVID pandemic.

**[01:05:12.660] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001268)  
Hindi na tapos.

**[01:05:13.100] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001269)  
So yung una naming reaksyon is we want Sustainable Livelihood Program of DSWD.

**[01:05:19.740] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001270)  
We list down 230 members.

**[01:05:23.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001271)  
Nagka problema na nawala na ng trabaho or yung mga negosyo nila, nagka problema na.

**[01:05:32.240] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001272)  
In short, we list down 230 beneficiaries.

**[01:05:35.900] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001273)  
Nung chineck po ng DSWD sa Listahanan, of the 223, yung qualified lang po are 157 that time.

**[01:05:47.020] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001274)  
So, nagkaroon ng more than 70 na mga beneficiary na hindi na qualified.

**[01:05:52.440] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001275)  
So, no?

**[01:05:53.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001276)  
Dahil ang basis nila 2019, nagka problema kami doon sa bigayan ng cash assistance for SLP.

**[01:06:02.040] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001277)  
So, there were like 70 na hindi qualified.

**[01:06:04.880] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001278)  
So, yun po yung problema natin, Mr. Secretary, kung meron kayong safety nets na i-base nyo on the situation,

**[01:06:12.340] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001279)  
like for example, sa nangyari ng 2019 and 2021 na listahanan.

**[01:06:17.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001280)  
Mr. Chair, una ho, biro lang 'yon. Love na love namin yung RD niya.

**[01:06:22.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001281)  
And we don't...

**[01:06:23.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001282)  
There's no violence in the department. We like RD Tolits.

**[01:06:27.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001283)  
Mr. Chair, isa-isahin ko. Loaded ho kasi yung question, but allow me to expound further.

**[01:06:32.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001284)  
Una ko, listahanan was the main database of the government.

**[01:06:36.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001285)  
But because of the law, the CBMS law that this house and the upper house passed, wala nang listahanan.

**[01:06:42.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001286)  
Unfortunately, listahanan na nire-refer nyo, just pabalik tanaw ko lang,

**[01:06:45.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001287)  
nung dumating rin ako, it was a chaotic listahanan, not because the department was at fault,

**[01:06:50.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001288)  
but because hindi natapos yung survey ng listahanan because COVID.

**[01:06:53.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001289)  
So they launched a listahanan because it was required from us to do so,

**[01:06:58.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001290)  
or else wala tayong database kahit na hindi siya fully natapos dahil sa COVID.

**[01:07:02.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001291)  
Unforeseen circumstance.

**[01:07:04.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001292)  
But that's behind us because wala nang listahanan. Bawal na ho yun.

**[01:07:08.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001293)  
No government agency can craft a new database.

**[01:07:11.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001294)  
Ayon sa batas, lahat kami ang gagamitin na namin CBMS.

**[01:07:15.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001295)  
So ma'am, the first question, kami ang in-charge sa implementation,

**[01:07:18.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001296)  
but the targeting in the list comes from PSA using CBMS.

**[01:07:23.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001297)  
DepDev at PSA, anak ho nila 'yon.

**[01:07:26.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001298)  
Number two, not that I am going to, not that I am lawyering for PSA,

**[01:07:32.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001299)  
but ma'am, alam rin po natin from our own experience, there is no perfect list.

**[01:07:36.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001300)  
Merong 20 to 30% na exclusion, inclusion error.

**[01:07:42.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001301)  
Pero unfortunately, from the ground, tama ho kayo, Mr. Chair, tama ang ating buting congresswoman,

**[01:07:48.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001302)  
etong CBMS na to, medyo napakalaki ng exclusion at inclusion.

**[01:07:53.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001303)  
Napakalaki.

**[01:07:54.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001304)  
Kaya nga ho, kung matatandaan nyo, lagi ho kami tinatanong, ba't ayaw namin gawing automated yung payout.

**[01:08:00.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001305)  
Dahil nga, we need to do the validation on the ground.

**[01:08:03.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001306)  
As the good Congresswoman pointed out, DSWD is tasked to safeguard the money that we have,

**[01:08:09.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001307)  
na makarating yon sa nangangailangan.

**[01:08:11.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001308)  
Hindi dun sa hindi nangangailangan.

**[01:08:13.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001309)  
So ang nangyayari, tama ho si Congresswoman, pagbigay ho sa amin ang CBMS list, we validate it.

**[01:08:19.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001310)  
That's why nagmamanual ho kami.

**[01:08:21.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001311)  
Dahil sa manual process namin nakikita,

**[01:08:23.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001312)  
totoong tao pa ba to?

**[01:08:25.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001313)  
Buhay pa ba siya?

**[01:08:26.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001314)  
Nandun pa ba siya?

**[01:08:27.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001315)  
Gumanda na ba yung buhay?

**[01:08:29.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001316)  
Kasi remember, CBMS was done 2024.

**[01:08:31.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001317)  
We're now doing 2026.

**[01:08:33.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001318)  
May iba diyan, gumanda na yung buhay.

**[01:08:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001319)  
Nakapag-abroad at nagkaroon ng negosyo.

**[01:08:39.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001320)  
So that's my answer.

**[01:08:41.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001321)  
The short and easy of it, unfortunately, we have taken this up with PSA and NEDA,

**[01:08:45.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001322)  
and they promised to tighten the next CBMS round next year.

**[01:08:49.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001323)  
Kausap lang namin sila kahapon.

**[01:08:51.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001324)  
Kasi sinasabi nga namin,

**[01:08:52.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001325)  
na nahihirapan kami dun sa listahan kasi kami ang sinasabugan.

**[01:08:56.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001326)  
Kami lagi ang pinuputukan.

**[01:08:58.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001327)  
Akala ng tao, nagdadamot kami,

**[01:09:00.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001328)  
or akala ng tao, mali yung targeting namin.

**[01:09:03.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001329)  
Kung listahanan yan, by all means, we would accept it.

**[01:09:06.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001330)  
Pero hindi kasi kami ang nagtarget neto.

**[01:09:08.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001331)  
But to the same degree, Mr. Chair,

**[01:09:10.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001332)  
I come from the ranks of the local government unit.

**[01:09:12.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001333)  
Our LGUs are also tasked to work closely with the PSA in rolling out the CBMS.

**[01:09:18.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001334)  
So next year, meron tayong bagong CBMS.

**[01:09:21.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001335)  
Hopefully, maggamot na tong mga issues na to.

**[01:09:24.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001336)  
Another case in point, Mr. Chairman,

**[01:09:26.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001337)  
we've also fixed the SLP issue that plagued that program.

**[01:09:30.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001338)  
Kaya nga, kung titignan nyo, ngayon, mas mabilis kami gumamit ng SLP.

**[01:09:34.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001339)  
Because nga, one, we are no longer saying na yun na lang, yung listahan na lang.

**[01:09:39.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001340)  
When we joined the department, we scrapped the hole na dapat sa listahanan kinukuha.

**[01:09:43.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001341)  
We do the field or manual validation on the ground.

**[01:09:46.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001342)  
Kaya nga, bottom line, lagi kami tinatarong bakit nagbamanual kami.

**[01:09:50.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001343)  
Hindi dahil trip lang hoon namin or dahil gusto namin pahirapan ng tao.

**[01:09:54.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001344)  
Kundi 'yon lang ang only means namin in trying to make sure na yung pera ng taong-bayan ay napupunta sa tamang benepisyaryo.

**[01:10:03.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001345)  
Thank you so much, Mr. Secretary.

**[01:10:05.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001346)  
It's different talaga pag nag-local, nag-congress ka din.

**[01:10:12.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001347)  
So you're really the right man for this job.

**[01:10:15.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001348)  
And if I were to ask you, sa tingin mo ba lahat ng

**[01:10:19.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001349)  
CBMS na listahan po ngayon ay hindi tama?

**[01:10:25.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001350)  
Kasi sa nakikita ko, based in my district, sa Iloilo City especially, mga 27% ang difference.

**[01:10:32.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001351)  
So sayang pa rin yung 27% na katao na pwede sana mag-avail ng programa.

**[01:10:38.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001352)  
So let's take it as a national perspective.

**[01:10:40.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001353)  
Tama ba yung CBMS na resulta nila based sa 2027?

**[01:10:45.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001354)  
Because when I asked my collaboration meeting with the region,

**[01:10:49.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001355)  
ang sabi nila we did ask for the support of the barangay officials sa ganitong pag-gather ng data ng CBMS.

**[01:10:57.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001356)  
Mr. Chairman, and I've said this so many times, nung pinatawag ho kami ng special committee ni Chairman Quimbo,

**[01:11:06.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001357)  
sinabi na rin namin na nahihirapan kami dun sa CBMS.

**[01:11:10.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001358)  
Napakalaki ng inclusion at exclusion.

**[01:11:13.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001359)  
I think it's more than 30%.

**[01:11:15.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001360)  
Tansya namin sa sarili namin.

**[01:11:17.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001361)  
Close to 40%.

**[01:11:18.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001362)  
Close to 40%.

**[01:11:20.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001363)  
Why?

**[01:11:21.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001364)  
Ang average uplift na uptake ngayon is only at 60% or 55%.

**[01:11:26.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001365)  
Meaning maraming nawawala.

**[01:11:28.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001366)  
Mas malaki ho sa 35%.

**[01:11:30.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001367)  
So we raised the alarm already and we told the dep-dev about this.

**[01:11:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001368)  
I personally spoke to Secretary Balisacan and they made a promise to tighten also the implementation of CBMS next year.

**[01:11:42.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001369)  
Yesterday I was with Usec Mapa. I don't mean

**[01:11:44.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001370)  
I don't mean to speak ill of them.

**[01:11:46.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001371)  
what I've already said before in this House, as well as what I told them numerous times na nagpunta po ako.

**[01:11:53.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001372)  
Thank you, good secretary.

**[01:11:54.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001373)  
I know you'll be there to be on top of everything.

**[01:11:56.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001374)  
So again, Mr. Chair, before I end, can you allow me to show a little, like 30 minutes—30 seconds of my video?

**[01:12:04.600] Presentation video** (asr-001375)  
[unclear] nagkaroon ng biglaang krisis sa buhay. Ang layon ng programa ng DSWD na AICS.

**[01:12:13.290] Presentation video** (asr-001376)  
Pag-uwi ng mga benepisyaryo, [unclear] ang mga benepisyaryo

**[01:12:16.290] Presentation video** (asr-001377)  
na kunin yung porsyento ng payout. Sa ₱10,000

**[01:12:19.290] Presentation video** (asr-001378)  
na ibinigay sa kanilang tulong pinansyal, pilit kunin yung ₱8,000 hanggang ₱9,000.

**[01:12:26.290] Presentation video** (asr-001379)  
Sa Iloilo City, inireklamo naman ang pangungupit daw sa ipinamahaging

**[01:12:31.290] Presentation video** (asr-001380)  
ayuda mula sa ₱10,000 na dapat matanggap ng mga benepisyaryo.

**[01:12:36.290] Presentation video** (asr-001381)  
The DSWD investigation must be transparent.

**[01:12:41.290] Presentation video** (asr-001382)  
Names, barangays involved,

**[01:12:43.290] Presentation video** (asr-001383)  
the exact amount deducted, and the findings

**[01:12:45.290] Presentation video** (asr-001384)  
of the legal team must be made public.

**[01:13:05.980] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001385)  
With that, Mr. Secretary, thank you for heeding our call.

**[01:13:08.640] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001386)  
I know hindi lang ito nangyayari sa district ko, but sa buong Pilipinas.

**[01:13:14.640] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001387)  
With your leadership, lahat ng may kasalanan dapat managot.

**[01:13:19.640] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001388)  
Truly, maasahan ang Bagong Pilipinas.

**[01:13:23.640] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001389)  
Salamat, Mr. Secretary. Congratulations, DSWD.

**[01:13:31.900] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001390)  
Thank you so much, Cong Jam.

**[01:13:35.080] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001391)  
Mr. Chair, I just wanted you to know that nag-file na po si Secretary ng case,

**[01:13:41.080] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001392)  
and I was informed na may mga officials na po na natanggal ng Ombudsman.

**[01:13:48.080] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-001393)  
And we are waiting for the final list of that po.

**[01:13:52.080] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001394)  
Thank you.

**[01:13:59.980] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001395)  
Before we move on, we'd like to acknowledge additional members who just came in.

**[01:14:06.100] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001396)  
Deputy Minority Leader

**[01:14:06.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001397)  
Jesus

**[01:14:07.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001398)  
"Bong" Suntay.

**[01:14:10.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001399)  
Representative

**[01:14:11.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001400)  
Christopher 'Coco' Yap.

**[01:14:13.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001401)  
Assistant Majority Leader Antonio Roman.

**[01:14:17.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001402)  
Assistant Majority Leader De Carlo

**[01:14:27.680] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001403)  
Uy. Representative Adrian Amatong.

**[01:14:30.680] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001404)  
Vice Chair Maria Cristina Talavera-Lopez.

**[01:14:35.680] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001405)  
Representative Girlie Veloso.

**[01:14:37.680] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001406)  
Representative Elijah San Fernando.

**[01:14:41.680] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001407)  
Vice Chair Rufus Rodriguez.

**[01:14:43.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-001408)  
Good morning, Mr. Chairman.

**[01:14:45.680] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001409)  
Good morning.

**[01:14:46.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-001410)  
Good morning, Secretary Rex and the family of DSWD.

**[01:14:49.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-001411)  
Good morning to all.

**[01:14:54.130] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001412)  
Representative Edgar Erice and Deputy Majority Leader

**[01:14:59.060] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001413)  
Jose

**[01:15:00.440] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001414)  
"Bong" Teves Jr.

**[01:15:04.120] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001415)  
We also like to acknowledge Representative Jay Vergara and Vice Chair Bernadette Barbers.

**[01:15:11.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001416)  
Thank you. So we move on and we recognize from the minority Representative Dadah Kiram Ismula.

**[01:15:24.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001417)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair. Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Magandang umaga po sa aking former family, sa DSWD family po. Mr. Chair, meron lamang akong konting katanungan.

**[01:15:40.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001418)  
Magsisimula po ako tungkol sa Uplift at informal workers. Nitong dumaan tayo sa malubhang economic crisis dala ng US-Iran conflict, nakita natin maraming jeepney drivers, market vendors, at iba pang informal workers ang umasa sa ayuda mula sa gobyerno dito sa programang Uplift.

**[01:16:05.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001419)  
Pero maraming nabigo at naiyak dahil pagdating sa payout, hindi pala sila kasali.

**[01:16:13.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001420)  
Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary,

**[01:16:17.630] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001421)  
gusto po sana nilang malaman, ano po kaya ang nangyari, bakit karamihan sa kanila ay hindi nakasama sa master list ng ahensya?

**[01:16:26.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001422)  
Mr. Chairman, let me break that apart kasi maraming sektor yung binanggit.

**[01:16:30.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001423)  
Una,

**[01:16:38.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001424)  
wala hong database ang gobyerno pagdating sa mga drivers.

**[01:16:43.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001425)  
we were given lists by different sources like ltfrb

**[01:16:49.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001426)  
LGUs, pero kulang-kulang po yung list.

**[01:16:51.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001427)  
At hindi naman dahil hindi nila in-update yung

**[01:16:53.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001428)  
list, pero yung relationship

**[01:16:54.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001429)  
ng, let's say, in the case of jeepney drivers

**[01:16:56.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001430)  
and tricycle drivers, napaka-fluid

**[01:16:58.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001431)  
ho ng relationship. Maya't-maya, nagpapalit

**[01:17:00.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001432)  
ng driver, pero

**[01:17:02.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001433)  
hindi na-update yung LGU

**[01:17:04.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001434)  
or hindi na-update yung LTFRB.

**[01:17:06.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001435)  
That's the sad part of it. Napakabilis

**[01:17:09.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001436)  
nung relationship na yun.

**[01:17:10.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001437)  
Doon sa hearing na 'yon, nilatag

**[01:17:12.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001438)  
rin namin na kahit yung akala

**[01:17:14.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001439)  
naming madali, yung mga TNVS,

**[01:17:16.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001440)  
yung mga two-wheel na

**[01:17:18.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001441)  
ride-hailing, at saka yung mga service delivery,

**[01:17:20.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001442)  
akala namin lahat 'yan app-based.

**[01:17:22.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001443)  
But lo and behold, nung lumabas

**[01:17:24.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001444)  
yung mga listahan, napakarami sa kanila

**[01:17:26.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001445)  
pala ang ikinukubli ng kanilang mga

**[01:17:28.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001446)  
service, mga platform, dahil they already

**[01:17:30.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001447)  
exceeded their limits. So,

**[01:17:32.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001448)  
anong nangyari ho noon, binigyan kami

**[01:17:34.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001449)  
ng listahan ng mga iba-ibang sources,

**[01:17:36.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001450)  
the list did not come from DSWD,

**[01:17:38.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001451)  
pagdating ng payout, as always, kami ho

**[01:17:40.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001452)  
yung pinagagalitan ng mga driver. But,

**[01:17:42.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001453)  
at the end of the whole exercise, we

**[01:17:44.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001454)  
painstakingly did it one by one,

**[01:17:47.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001455)  
as in, kumunsulta sa mga

**[01:17:48.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001456)  
iba't ibang mga organized

**[01:17:50.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001457)  
groups, and we can tell you

**[01:17:52.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001458)  
that we have now furnished

**[01:17:54.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001459)  
the DOTr, what

**[01:17:56.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001460)  
I think is the country's first

**[01:17:58.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001461)  
time na nagkaroon ng listahan

**[01:18:00.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001462)  
ng mga driver. That's

**[01:18:02.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001463)  
1.8 million

**[01:18:04.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001464)  
na mga driver ng iba't-ibang

**[01:18:06.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001465)  
modalities, except non-motorized

**[01:18:08.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001466)  
modalities. Yan ang kauna-unahan

**[01:18:11.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001467)  
na listahan nitong bansa, and

**[01:18:12.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001468)  
we, nag-usap kami ni Secretary Lopez

**[01:18:14.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001469)  
and he said he will find mechanisms to keep

**[01:18:16.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001470)  
on updating it, para pagdating

**[01:18:18.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001471)  
ang tamang panahon na naman na

**[01:18:20.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001472)  
tulong sa kanila, mas mabilis na ho.

**[01:18:23.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001473)  
Unfortunately, the country doesn't have

**[01:18:24.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001474)  
a database at kauna-unahan ho yun.

**[01:18:26.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001475)  
Pero ginamot naman ho namin. That's why

**[01:18:28.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001476)  
from what we thought was

**[01:18:29.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001477)  
parang nagsimula sa 800,000

**[01:18:32.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001478)  
na tapos kami sa 1.8 million

**[01:18:34.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001479)  
and to the best of our ability, alam

**[01:18:36.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001480)  
namin na yun at yun na. Lumabas rin sa

**[01:18:37.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001481)  
SWS survey na marami sa kanila, almost

**[01:18:40.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001482)  
80 to 90 percent of them said

**[01:18:42.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001483)  
they were covered and they appreciated it.

**[01:18:44.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001484)  
Slow start, but we ended

**[01:18:46.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001485)  
strong, I'd like to think. Pero alam namin,

**[01:18:48.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001486)  
the efforts are never perfect. Kaya humihiling

**[01:18:50.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001487)  
kami ng paumanhin sa mga maaring

**[01:18:52.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001488)  
hindi pa rin nakasama. Pero

**[01:18:54.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001489)  
that's the first part of it.

**[01:18:56.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001490)  
The second part of it, inuna po

**[01:18:58.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001491)  
natin ang ating mga

**[01:19:00.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001492)  
transpo workers kasi they were at the forefront

**[01:19:02.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001493)  
nung time na yun. Now, the pivot

**[01:19:04.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001494)  
will be the Uplift assistance na binanggit

**[01:19:06.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001495)  
ko kanina nung nagtatanong si Congresswoman

**[01:19:08.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001496)  
Baronda. Ito naman, tinignan yung mga

**[01:19:10.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001497)  
poor and near-poor

**[01:19:12.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001498)  
at low-wage earners.

**[01:19:14.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001499)  
So, ibig sabihin, nako-cover na natin

**[01:19:16.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001500)  
theoretically if the CBMS is

**[01:19:18.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001501)  
correct. Theoretically, nandyan

**[01:19:20.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001502)  
na ho yung mga informal sector natin.

**[01:19:22.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001503)  
Bahagi sila ng poor and non-poor.

**[01:19:24.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001504)  
Kasi hindi lang four-piece ang kasama dito

**[01:19:26.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001505)  
pati mga poor na hindi four-piece.

**[01:19:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001506)  
Hinabol rin natin yung mga low-wage earners

**[01:19:30.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001507)  
ng SSS.

**[01:19:32.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001508)  
In fact, we're in the process of

**[01:19:34.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001509)  
looking for more kahit yung mga walang

**[01:19:36.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001510)  
basic deposit account, benefit deposit

**[01:19:38.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001511)  
account, pero pasok sa criteria

**[01:19:40.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001512)  
na ₱20,000 below

**[01:19:42.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001513)  
na monthly service credits.

**[01:19:45.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001514)  
Sakali,

**[01:19:46.640] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001515)  
Mr. Chair,

**[01:19:48.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001516)  
yung listahan naman po para sa

**[01:19:50.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001517)  
vendors, sino naman po yung nagbibigay

**[01:19:52.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001518)  
nito? I don't think there's a list of vendors.

**[01:19:54.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001519)  
Ako naging mayor ho ako, very fluid rin ho yan.

**[01:19:57.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001520)  
Pero kami kasi tinitignan namin

**[01:19:58.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001521)  
sila sa sektor. So malamang pasok ho sila

**[01:20:00.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001522)  
sa poor at near-poor.

**[01:20:02.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001523)  
Theoretically, if the CBMS was done

**[01:20:04.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001524)  
right, then dapat pasok ho yung

**[01:20:06.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001525)  
mga informal sector natin pati yung mga

**[01:20:08.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001526)  
ambulant vendors. And up to now

**[01:20:10.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001527)  
you are still paying them out?

**[01:20:12.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001528)  
We're almost done with the first month.

**[01:20:14.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001529)  
'Yon yung nilatag namin na numero kanina

**[01:20:16.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001530)  
na naka-5.5,

**[01:20:18.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001531)  
5.7 million na ho kami out of the

**[01:20:20.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001532)  
7.5. Hinahanap pa namin

**[01:20:22.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001533)  
yung balance kasi tulad yung nasabi namin

**[01:20:24.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001534)  
maaaring wala na sila sa kanilang mga residence

**[01:20:26.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001535)  
na mga bahay nung ginawa yung

**[01:20:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001536)  
CBMS.

**[01:20:29.860] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001537)  
Kami po sa Akbayan, we've

**[01:20:32.420] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001538)  
filed the Magna Carta for

**[01:20:34.360] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001539)  
workers in the informal

**[01:20:36.240] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001540)  
economy. Will you support this

**[01:20:38.500] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001541)  
bill creating a registry

**[01:20:40.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001542)  
of informal sector workers?

**[01:20:43.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001543)  
Mr. Chair,

**[01:20:44.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001544)  
as in always, we're only as good as

**[01:20:46.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001545)  
the list that we have.

**[01:20:48.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001546)  
Pero if I, we will be fully supportive

**[01:20:50.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001547)  
of that. Pero if I can also

**[01:20:52.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001548)  
add to the notion na

**[01:20:53.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001549)  
the problem with our country I believe

**[01:20:56.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001550)  
is we have too many databases also.

**[01:20:58.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001551)  
Databases that do not talk to each

**[01:21:00.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001552)  
other. Kaya nga ho, I think the

**[01:21:02.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001553)  
CBMS law wanted to streamline

**[01:21:03.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001554)  
the number of databases that the country

**[01:21:06.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001555)  
maintains. Alam po natin na next

**[01:21:08.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001556)  
year meron na namang run ulit

**[01:21:10.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001557)  
ng CBMS. I'm sure the PSA

**[01:21:12.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001558)  
can gladly put new

**[01:21:13.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001559)  
indicators there. Are they vendors?

**[01:21:16.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001560)  
Di ba ho? Kasi gagastos na lang

**[01:21:18.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001561)  
ho tayo ng CBMS next year,

**[01:21:20.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001562)  
damihan na natin yung mga indicators na kanilang

**[01:21:22.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001563)  
sine-check. And also, I spoke to

**[01:21:24.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001564)  
PSA last year—yesterday,

**[01:21:26.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001565)  
ang pinakamaganda ho, we told them na

**[01:21:28.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001566)  
i-link na yung national ID doon sa

**[01:21:29.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001567)  
CBMS. So they will link that.

**[01:21:32.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001568)  
So that magamit naman natin to the fullest

**[01:21:33.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001569)  
extent yung national ID. Yes,

**[01:21:36.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001570)  
we support the database, but maybe

**[01:21:37.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001571)  
not as a standalone, but ipasok na

**[01:21:40.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001572)  
rin natin sa CBMS. Hopefully,

**[01:21:42.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001573)  
makapture ng maayos yung mga data na yan.

**[01:21:44.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001574)  
Ilahat na natin, no, Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary.

**[01:21:46.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001575)  
Driver ba ho kayo, vendor kayo?

**[01:21:48.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001576)  
Ilagay na ho natin lahat po.

**[01:21:50.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001576-split-2)  
Yes.

**[01:21:50.860] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001577)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[01:21:52.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001578)  
Dadako naman po ako sa ibang katanungan.

**[01:21:54.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001579)  
Ito'y tungkol sa Regional Women's Center.

**[01:21:56.440] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001580)  
Ang

**[01:21:58.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001581)  
DSWD po ay

**[01:22:00.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001582)  
mayroong 76 centers

**[01:22:02.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001583)  
and residential care facilities

**[01:22:04.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001584)  
nationwide, which are

**[01:22:06.100] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001585)  
owned and managed by the agency

**[01:22:07.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001586)  
and catering to all sectors,

**[01:22:10.240] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001587)  
from children to older persons.

**[01:22:13.180] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001588)  
As of 2026,

**[01:22:14.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001589)  
ilan na po ba ang Regional

**[01:22:16.300] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001590)  
Women's Center sa ating bansa?

**[01:22:18.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001591)  
At lahat po ba ito ay fully

**[01:22:20.140] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001592)  
functional?

**[01:22:21.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001593)  
The DSWD-managed centers of such nature,

**[01:22:24.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001594)  
labing-apat po.

**[01:22:26.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001595)  
Meron rin hong 45 na

**[01:22:27.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001596)  
LGU-managed. Bagamat hindi kami ang nagpapatakbo,

**[01:22:30.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001597)  
we look at their standards.

**[01:22:33.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001598)  
There are also 54

**[01:22:34.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001599)  
private such

**[01:22:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001600)  
CRCFs.

**[01:22:39.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001601)  
And then,

**[01:22:40.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001602)  
meron ho, so that brings us a total of

**[01:22:42.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001603)  
54,

**[01:22:43.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001604)  
100 plus.

**[01:22:46.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001605)  
Around 100 plus.

**[01:22:48.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001606)  
Ngayon ba rin tatanungin ninyo ako,

**[01:22:49.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001607)  
bakit namin binibilang yung LGU-run,

**[01:22:51.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001608)  
pati na rin ho yung mga private,

**[01:22:53.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001609)  
because we have to look at their standards.

**[01:22:55.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001610)  
If they find the, if they are

**[01:22:57.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001611)  
accredited to run, then that

**[01:23:00.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001612)  
means pumapasala sila and they're fully

**[01:23:01.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001613)  
funksyonal. And if I may point out,

**[01:23:03.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001614)  
mahirap ho kasi magtayo ng magtayo

**[01:23:05.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001615)  
ng care facilities. Magastos,

**[01:23:07.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001616)  
as you know, the capital expenditure

**[01:23:09.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001617)  
because of the tight fiscal space. Kaya nga ho

**[01:23:11.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001618)  
last year, through the Act of Congress,

**[01:23:14.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001619)  
naglagay ho kami ng pondo

**[01:23:15.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001620)  
para sa cost of care, kung tawagin.

**[01:23:18.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001621)  
ibig sabihin, hindi na ho tayo

**[01:23:20.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001622)  
magtatayo kung overcrowded na yung

**[01:23:21.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001623)  
ating care facilities, not just for women,

**[01:23:24.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001624)  
but for other sector. We can now refer

**[01:23:26.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001625)  
them to a private SWDA,

**[01:23:27.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001626)  
social welfare agency, and

**[01:23:29.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001627)  
pay for the cost of care. So,

**[01:23:31.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001628)  
in short, it's like accrediting and then

**[01:23:33.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001629)  
paying for our clients that we refer to them.

**[01:23:36.940] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001630)  
And,

**[01:23:37.720] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001631)  
Mr. Chair, just a follow-up question

**[01:23:40.120] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001632)  
to that. Nagpapa-accredit po

**[01:23:42.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001633)  
even private sa inyo?

**[01:23:45.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001634)  
Yes, by law,

**[01:23:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001635)  
hindi sila pwede mag-operate without a

**[01:23:48.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001636)  
registry, license to operate,

**[01:23:50.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001637)  
and an accreditation.

**[01:23:51.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001638)  
Para po sa pangalawang katanungan

**[01:23:53.940] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001639)  
para dito sa Women's Center,

**[01:23:56.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001640)  
nagsagawa po tayo ng konsultasyon

**[01:23:58.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001641)  
kasama ang ating mga

**[01:23:59.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001642)  
women's

**[01:24:01.280] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001643)  
or mga kababaihan. Isa po

**[01:24:03.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001644)  
sa mga issue na na-raise ay

**[01:24:05.820] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001645)  
ang kakulangan ng mga essential

**[01:24:07.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001646)  
operational tools sa mga

**[01:24:09.680] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001647)  
regional women's centers.

**[01:24:11.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001648)  
Para po sa 2027,

**[01:24:14.220] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001649)  
magkano ang nakalaang pondo

**[01:24:15.780] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001650)  
para sa mga essential operational

**[01:24:17.800] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001651)  
tools ng ating mga regional

**[01:24:19.880] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001652)  
women's center?

**[01:25:23.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001663)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:25:25.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001664)  
the total, we look at it from an

**[01:25:27.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001665)  
MOOE point of view, kasi wala hong mag-administer

**[01:25:30.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001666)  
ng kids kung wala ho yung psychosocial

**[01:25:31.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001667)  
support noon, pati na rin yung grief

**[01:25:33.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001668)  
counseling and all the interventions

**[01:25:35.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001669)  
that we do. For these centers,

**[01:25:37.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001670)  
it's at ₱2.295875

**[01:25:40.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001671)  
billion.

**[01:25:42.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001672)  
Natanong ko po ito,

**[01:25:44.110] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001673)  
Mr. Chair, dahil napansin

**[01:25:45.910] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001674)  
po namin na consistently

**[01:25:47.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001675)  
po kasi yung lack of dedicated

**[01:25:50.050] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001676)  
funds for essential

**[01:25:51.830] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001677)  
operational tools, notably

**[01:25:53.850] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001678)  
vehicles exclusively

**[01:25:55.350] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001679)  
allocated for the centers.

**[01:25:57.970] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001680)  
Kaya po,

**[01:25:59.070] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001681)  
ito po bang budget na

**[01:26:01.830] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001682)  
₱2.2 billion,

**[01:26:03.730] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001683)  
sapat na po ba ito for 2027?

**[01:26:06.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001684)  
It is never enough, Mr. Chairman,

**[01:26:07.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001685)  
especially for the vulnerable, the poor, and the marginalized.

**[01:26:10.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001686)  
It is never enough.

**[01:26:11.790] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001687)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair.

**[01:26:13.570] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001688)  
Mamaya po ako magmamanifest.

**[01:26:15.410] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001689)  
Pangatlong katanungan po tungkol dito,

**[01:26:17.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001690)  
dahil din po sa mataas na client

**[01:26:19.810] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001691)  
to staff ratio, naranasan

**[01:26:22.270] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001692)  
ko po ito nung nasa DSWD

**[01:26:24.050] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001693)  
pa ako. Madalas na

**[01:26:25.570] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001694)  
nararanasan ang burnout

**[01:26:28.350] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001695)  
ng ating mga social workers.

**[01:26:30.890] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001696)  
Mayroon po ba tayong

**[01:26:32.030] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001697)  
mga umiiral na programa

**[01:26:33.870] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001698)  
upang maiwasan ito at

**[01:26:35.630] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001699)  
mapangalagaan ang kapakanan ng ating mga workers?

**[01:26:39.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001700)  
Two things, Mr. Chairman.

**[01:26:40.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001701)  
Number one, tulad na nabanggit ko kanina,

**[01:26:41.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001702)  
we're now going to farm out our

**[01:26:43.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001703)  
functions to the private accredited

**[01:26:46.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001704)  
SWDAs, or social welfare

**[01:26:47.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001705)  
and development agencies. Last year,

**[01:26:50.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001706)  
Congress put in an allocation of close

**[01:26:52.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001707)  
to 200 million para hindi na ho tayo-tayo

**[01:26:54.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001708)  
ng tayo at hindi natin pinipilit na ilagay

**[01:26:56.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001709)  
sa overcrowded na shelters.

**[01:26:58.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001710)  
We're just finalizing

**[01:27:00.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001711)  
the guidelines kasi nakuha na ho namin yung

**[01:27:02.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001712)  
SARO so that there are so

**[01:27:03.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001713)  
many private sector swadas

**[01:27:06.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001714)  
out there na aminin ko

**[01:27:08.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001715)  
mas magaling pa

**[01:27:09.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001716)  
sometimes kasi they have foreign

**[01:27:12.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001717)  
funders. So we'll do cost of care

**[01:27:14.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001718)  
para mabawasan yung caseload.

**[01:27:15.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001719)  
Una po yun. Pangalawa,

**[01:27:17.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001720)  
obviously we've invested, we've

**[01:27:19.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001721)  
made investments in caring for the caregivers.

**[01:27:23.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001722)  
Our social,

**[01:27:24.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001723)  
we have an interdisciplinary team

**[01:27:26.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001724)  
made by consultants from

**[01:27:28.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001725)  
outside the department, from the academe

**[01:27:30.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001726)  
to make sure that, inikutan lahat niyang

**[01:27:32.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001727)  
center na yan, did a top line

**[01:27:33.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001728)  
analysis kung ano ba talaga ang panawagan nila

**[01:27:36.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001729)  
sa amin. Anong gusto nila?

**[01:27:37.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001730)  
Instead of, siyempre nakalagay dun yung

**[01:27:39.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001731)  
more capacity building, but tama ho kayo.

**[01:27:42.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001732)  
Top of their list is always making

**[01:27:44.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001733)  
sure na hindi sila nauubos

**[01:27:46.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001734)  
or hindi sila napapagod

**[01:27:47.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001735)  
o nabuburnout. So that's part of

**[01:27:50.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001736)  
the modules that we're running right now

**[01:27:52.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001737)  
to decompress, to help them do so.

**[01:27:54.370] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001738)  
Nasa ilan po yung ratio

**[01:27:56.090] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001739)  
ngayon ng isang social worker?

**[01:27:58.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001740)  
Mr. Chairman, iba-iba ho.

**[01:28:00.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001741)  
Iba-iba ho. Kasi

**[01:28:02.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001742)  
depende ho sa

**[01:28:03.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001743)  
sektor na pinag-uusapan. Let's say

**[01:28:06.210] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001744)  
4Ps. Ilan po yung—

**[01:28:07.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001745)  
Sa 4Ps ho, hindi lang

**[01:28:09.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001746)  
social worker ang tingin namin dun, case manager.

**[01:28:12.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001747)  
Kasi ho, nung una tayo nagsimula

**[01:28:14.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001748)  
nasa 800 yan, naging 500

**[01:28:15.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001749)  
now it's at 200, which is an

**[01:28:17.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001750)  
acceptable limit. Para sa mga case manager natin

**[01:28:20.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001751)  
sa ex-combatants, it's even

**[01:28:22.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001752)  
lower at around 150

**[01:28:24.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001753)  
to 200.

**[01:28:25.390] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001754)  
Kasama pa ata ako diyan sa 800.

**[01:28:27.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001755)  
Right now, Mr. Chair, we're happy to report

**[01:28:30.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001756)  
na DBM has been helping us

**[01:28:32.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001757)  
na kalahati na ng aming

**[01:28:33.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001758)  
links at municipal

**[01:28:35.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001759)  
and city links ang na-regularize or in the process

**[01:28:38.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001760)  
of being regularized at binaba

**[01:28:40.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001761)  
na rin ho yung ratio na 'yan to 200 to 300.

**[01:28:43.010] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001762)  
I-insert ko lang

**[01:28:44.070] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001763)  
po ito, Mr. Chair, dahil

**[01:28:45.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001764)  
pinapatanong po ito

**[01:28:47.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001765)  
ng aking mga dating kasamahan sa

**[01:28:49.890] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001766)  
DSWD. May plano po

**[01:28:51.990] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001767)  
ba ang ahensya patungkol

**[01:28:53.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001768)  
na nabanggit ninyo po kanina yung regularization?

**[01:28:56.870] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001769)  
May plano po ba

**[01:28:57.990] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001770)  
ang ahensya doon sa mga

**[01:28:59.910] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001771)  
social workers natin

**[01:29:02.370] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001772)  
or empleyado natin

**[01:29:03.990] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001773)  
sa ahensya na

**[01:29:04.990] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001774)  
they've been in

**[01:29:08.330] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001775)  
contract

**[01:29:09.790] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001776)  
under contract po

**[01:29:11.930] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001777)  
sa DSWD na

**[01:29:13.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001778)  
let's say 10 years, 20

**[01:29:16.130] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001779)  
years, 30 years, pero hanggang ngayon

**[01:29:17.830] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001780)  
hindi pa rin po sila na-regularize.

**[01:29:19.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001781)  
Yes, hindi ho kami tumitigil. In fact, we're

**[01:29:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001782)  
happy to inform the

**[01:29:23.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001783)  
subcommittee mula sa discussion

**[01:29:25.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001784)  
last year. The DBM has already granted us

**[01:29:27.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001785)  
5,000 new regular

**[01:29:29.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001786)  
positions. Hindi lang ho to

**[01:29:31.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001787)  
para sa mga social worker kasi meron rin tayong

**[01:29:33.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001788)  
mga development workers who's been with the department

**[01:29:35.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001789)  
for years. This is

**[01:29:37.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001790)  
for the four piece alone. So kung

**[01:29:39.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001791)  
15,000 sila, this is

**[01:29:41.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001792)  
the first 5,000 nila. Then may next

**[01:29:43.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001793)  
5,000 na commitment ulit until

**[01:29:45.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001794)  
lahat sila ma-regularize. Now,

**[01:29:47.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001795)  
Mr. Chair, when I say

**[01:29:49.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001796)  
4Ps, hindi naman kasi limited to 4Ps

**[01:29:51.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001797)  
lang to. Based on civil service

**[01:29:53.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001798)  
rules, pwede rin mag-apply the

**[01:29:55.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001799)  
eligible social workers sa labas

**[01:29:57.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001800)  
ng cluster ng four piece to become

**[01:29:59.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001801)  
regular.

**[01:30:00.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001802)  
positions as long as they meet the eligibility requirements. On top of that,

**[01:30:03.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001803)  
we also got a couple, konti lang naman, pero it's a step towards the

**[01:30:07.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001804)  
right direction, a couple of regular positions also for

**[01:30:10.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001805)  
plantilla positions for the disaster group, the innovations group, yung sa Social

**[01:30:14.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001806)  
Technology Bureau. And at the same time, hopefully, padating na rin,

**[01:30:18.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001807)  
sabi sa akin ni Sec Kim, yung sa AICS program natin ng mga manggagawa.

**[01:30:21.960] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001808)  
Ganda ng mga sagot ni Sec. Ibig sabihin po, Mr. Chair, it is a continuing regularization process po?

**[01:30:29.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001809)  
Correct. At may progress po. Hindi ho laway lamang, kundi

**[01:30:31.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001810)  
limang libo. Marami ho, and I think that's the first time na ganyang

**[01:30:36.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001811)  
karami yung nare-regularize. Hinahanda na rin yung second batch na 5,000.

**[01:30:41.950] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001812)  
Wow. Sige po. Dadako naman po ako sa ibang katanungan.

**[01:30:45.160] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001813)  
Psychosocial support po. Ang DSWD ay merong program na tinatawag

**[01:30:50.540] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001814)  
na Wireless Mental Health and Psychosocial Support, or WeSupport. This

**[01:30:56.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001815)  
DSWD

**[01:30:57.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001816)  
initiative aims to establish a systematic response in addressing mental

**[01:31:02.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001817)  
health and psychosocial concerns through wireless and online platforms.

**[01:31:07.480] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001818)  
Ilan po ang total users ng WeSupport platform sa nakaraang taon, at ano ang

**[01:31:13.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001819)  
breakdown per age group? Kung sakaling wala pong data right now,

**[01:31:18.020] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001820)  
puwede naman pong i-submit sa committee. Kasama po doon yung isa sa katanungan ko rin na

**[01:31:23.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001821)  
ano-anong mga coverage ng WeSupport program

**[01:31:27.380] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001822)  
para sa kabataan at estudyante?

**[01:31:29.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001823)  
Mr. Chair, the WeSupport program is a smaller program of the

**[01:31:34.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001824)  
department. 681 ang naging beneficiaries. Sounds really small, but we've already

**[01:31:39.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001825)  
pivoted under the Social Technology Bureau, a new program patterned after our

**[01:31:44.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001826)  
cash-for-work tutoring program, yung Tara Basa. Ngayon meron ho kaming Tara Usap.

**[01:31:49.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001827)  
It's a peer-to-peer support group in colleges and universities that we are

**[01:31:53.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001828)  
now piloting everywhere. Ang naging partner po namin doon is the

**[01:31:57.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001829)  
Ateneo School of Psychology, as well as the UP School of Psychology, kung saan

**[01:32:01.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001830)  
we're establishing safe spaces in schools. It's like Alcoholics Anonymous abroad.

**[01:32:06.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001831)  
At kina-capacitate natin yung mga peer counselors, pero obviously klaro rin sa kanila yung hangganan ng kanilang kayang gawin and the referral pathways. So that's something that we're proud

**[01:32:19.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001832)  
of, that we're already innovating. We veered towards peer-to-peer kasi we

**[01:32:24.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001833)  
always believe in community approaches kung saan we

**[01:32:27.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001834)  
empower the community to take care of the community.

**[01:32:30.340] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001835)  
May monitoring system po kayo para makita yung effectiveness sa pagbawas ng stress, anxiety, depression?

**[01:32:37.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001836)  
Dahil pilot pa lang ho ito, bahagi naman ho 'yon ng design. But we

**[01:32:40.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001837)  
will gladly report back to the committee after the pilot run is over.

**[01:32:44.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001838)  
Para po sa huling katanungan, given the recent school shootings na nagpapakita

**[01:32:49.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001839)  
ng vulnerability sa ating mga kabataan, ano po ang kongkretong plano ng DSWD

**[01:32:56.000] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001840)  
para palakasin ang long-term psychosocial support ng WeSupport para sa mga kabataan?

**[01:33:02.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001841)  
Madam, Mr. Chair, we're veering away not

**[01:33:04.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001842)  
just from WeSupport. Kami, we've been working with the Masayang Pamilyang

**[01:33:07.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001843)  
organisasyon, yung Masayang Pamilyang Pilipino organization

**[01:33:11.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001844)  
for the longest time. These are people from the academe,

**[01:33:15.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001845)  
most notably si Professor Alampay, who is one of the more senior

**[01:33:19.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001846)  
academe members of the Ateneo School of Psychology. Kami naniniwala, patatagin natin yung pamilya.

**[01:33:24.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001847)  
So we've revamped the 4Ps Family Development Sessions to strengthen

**[01:33:28.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001848)  
the role of our parents in making sure na alam nila ano yung mga red flags. Kasi it starts at home. Tama, malaki ang gampanin ng mga guro, pero pag kausap namin ang mga guro, nagsisimula yung formative years sa bahay.

**[01:33:44.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001849)  
So that's why we're looking at it from a paradigm of a parent

**[01:33:47.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001850)  
or a family intervention. So una po 'yon, binago na ho natin yung 18 years na

**[01:33:52.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001851)  
curriculum ng FDS, ng Family Development Sessions, to

**[01:33:55.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001852)  
incorporate newer newer topics like digital uh

**[01:34:00.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001853)  
digital literacy but in the same case uh digital awareness or digital parenting

**[01:34:04.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001854)  
These are new modules. Number two, yung batas ho na Parent Effectiveness

**[01:34:09.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001855)  
and simula namin roll out and these this one is being done

**[01:34:13.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001856)  
together with edu child another known family oriented

**[01:34:17.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001857)  
local group that does capacity building for our parents. At the end of the day,

**[01:34:22.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001858)  
yung long-term ho, we do the

**[01:34:24.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001859)  
sana huwag na maulit, but we do the post kung

**[01:34:27.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001860)  
may nangyayari. Working with the academe, we have trauma-informed care already na beyond

**[01:34:33.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001861)  
disasters, pati mga ganitong insidente.

**[01:34:35.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001862)  
Pero kami, ang approach pa rin namin, strengthening the Filipino families,

**[01:34:39.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001863)  
strengthening our parents' capabilities so that they can watch over their children at home.

**[01:34:44.190] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001864)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

**[01:34:45.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001865)  
Just a short manifestation dahil wala na po akong time.

**[01:34:49.920] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001866)  
Mr. Chair, nais kong i-highlight na lang ang mental health support ay may direct

**[01:34:55.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001867)  
impact sa safety, learning at overall well-being ng kabataan.

**[01:35:00.080] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001868)  
Kaya mahalaga na palakasin ang programang ito bilang preventive at

**[01:35:04.720] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001869)  
accessible support system para sa ating mga kabataan,

**[01:35:08.320] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001870)  
gaya ng WeSupport. Also, Mr. Chair, napansin ko po na bumaba po yung

**[01:35:13.840] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001871)  
pondo sa ating Supplemental Feeding Program na mula sa ₱9.56

**[01:35:19.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001872)  
bilyon nitong taon, naging ₱6.35 billion na lamang po sa NEP ng

**[01:35:25.520] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001873)  
2027. At dahil po doon, in the proper time, I will move to increase the budget of the DSWD for fiscal year 2027.

**[01:35:35.580] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001874)  
Hindi po dapat tinatapyas ang ahensya na inaasahan ng mga marginalized sectors at vulnerable constituents ng ating bansa.

**[01:35:45.660] Rep. Dadah Kiram Ismula** (asr-001875)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

**[01:35:46.920] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001876)  
Thank you.

**[01:35:47.260] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001877)  
Thank you.

**[01:35:49.620] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001878)  
May we call on Representative Adrian Amatong.

**[01:35:57.180] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001879)  
Thank you very much Mr. Chair.

**[01:35:59.320] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001880)  
Magandang umaga po, Secretary Rex, sa buong DSWD family.

**[01:36:03.540] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001881)  
Mr. Chair, ang DSWD isa sa pinaka-active na agency sa distrito ko.

**[01:36:08.840] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001882)  
Kaya masaya kami.

**[01:36:11.140] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001883)  
Alam ko marami siyang programs, pero dalawa sa pinakagusto namin, yung AICS at saka yung SLP.

**[01:36:16.840] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001884)  
Yung AICS dahil marami kaming mga mahihirap na estudyante na hirap na hirap silang mag-aral,

**[01:36:24.920] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001885)  
eh dahil sa flexibility ng AICS,

**[01:36:27.120] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001889)  
natutulungan natin sila.

**[01:36:28.940] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001890)  
So mga thousands po yan.

**[01:36:30.360] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001891)  
Tapos yung sa SLP gustong gusto namin kasi iba siya doun sa mga doll out programs.

**[01:36:36.660] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001892)  
SLP kasi we give those who are willing to work really hard for themselves na mag-succeed

**[01:36:42.660] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001893)  
lalo na mga walang capital.

**[01:36:44.340] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001894)  
secretary gusto ko lang itanong. Narinig ko kasi medyo nabawasan yata yung budget niyo sa SLP.

**[01:36:51.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001895)  
Ah yes Mr. Chair,

**[01:36:52.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001896)  
it's one of these line item na binanggit namin at sumulat rin kami sa committee

**[01:36:57.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001897)  
na sana

**[01:36:57.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001898)  
maibalik at least man lang, ma-augment by a billion pesos. Mr. Chair, that is correct. Congressman

**[01:37:02.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001899)  
Amatong is correct. Yung SLP, we're very happy na maraming mga partners natin ang tinatanong

**[01:37:09.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001900)  
na SLP. That means nandoon na tayo sa mindset of teaching our people how to fish. We've actually

**[01:37:15.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001901)  
submitted a one-billion-peso fund augmentation sana for the supplemental, sorry, for

**[01:37:20.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001902)  
the Sustainable Livelihood Program. Kasi nga, that's part of our mandate, social development, hindi lang puro social welfare.

**[01:37:29.070] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001903)  
Mr. Chair, I'd like to support yung move na i-increase yung budget specifically

**[01:37:32.760] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001904)  
sa SLP kasi na-experience namin. Ako kasi minsan ngayon yung payout, ayokong pumunta sa mga

**[01:37:38.520] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001905)  
dole-outs kasi parang, although natutulungan naman yung local economy, pero

**[01:37:45.640] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001906)  
siyempre pagkatapos noon wala na eh. Pero yung SLP kasi ang laking promise, kasi nga sabi ni Secretary,

**[01:37:51.560] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001907)  
we teach our people how to fish. Hindi lang yung bibigyan ng isda.

**[01:37:55.320] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001908)  
So, Mr.

**[01:37:56.200] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001909)  
Chair, gusto ko lang i-support yung move na yun na i-increase talaga yung budget,

**[01:38:00.440] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001910)  
kung pwede mas malaki pa sa one billion. Kasi dapat nandoon na tayo sa mode of

**[01:38:04.840] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001911)  
enabling our people na makatayo sa sarili nila. Kasi kung lagi na lang nating

**[01:38:12.040] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001912)  
binibigyan ng dole-outs, walang mangyayari. Lalaki nang lalaki yung utang natin dahil sa dole-outs natin.

**[01:38:17.560] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001913)  
Whereas ma-stimulate natin yung economy tapos mabigyan natin ng opportunity tumayo sa sarili nila.

**[01:38:22.920] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001914)  
Malamang hindi na hihingi ng dole-outs, kasi yun ang goal namin. I really commend your team doon sa Zamboanga del Norte, sa third district, kasi kahit weekends, kahit holidays, nagtatrabaho sila.

**[01:38:35.840] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001915)  
Kaya nagrereklamo din ako doon sa tinapyasan yung budget niyo for infrastructure,

**[01:38:41.020] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001916)  
kasi nakaikot na ako sa maraming opisina ng DSWD dito sa distrito ko. Kawawang-kawawa yung sitwasyon nila. Minsan isang kuwarto, siksikan sila parang sardinas. Pag kumilos

**[01:38:52.980] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001917)  
yung isa, kikilos

**[01:38:53.980] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001918)  
din yung iba sa dulo kasi nga siksikan na sila. Pati ang dami-daming

**[01:38:57.480] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001919)  
mga files na nandoon. So, Secretary, nag-request din kayo para sa augmentation sa infra niyo?

**[01:39:06.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001920)  
Mr. Chair, for

**[01:39:09.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001921)  
doon sa GASS na pondo na nawala rin. But I assure the good congressman, after

**[01:39:14.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001922)  
he raised the concern at nakita ko yung mga opisina sa kanilang lugar, that we've

**[01:39:18.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001923)  
already downloaded funds from the central office to repair those.

**[01:39:21.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001924)  
Admittedly, the regional director who is behind me again should have raised

**[01:39:27.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001925)  
the red flag and told us na wala na siyang MOOE so that we could have downloaded. But

**[01:39:31.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001926)  
we've addressed that concern. Pero in the long run, part ho iyan ng hinihingi

**[01:39:34.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001927)  
naming augmentation sa general services na budget namin.

**[01:39:39.820] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001928)  
Mr. Chair, hindi lang ito sa distrito ko, kundi sa buong

**[01:39:43.420] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001929)  
Pilipinas. Why? Because hirap naman nating i-expect na nakangiti, kailangan

**[01:39:47.800] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001930)  
nakangiti yung mga DSWD frontliners natin kasi nga

**[01:39:51.760] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001932)  
hinaharap nila marami ring problema eh. Pero napakahirap namang i-expect na nakangiti sila

**[01:39:56.920] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001933)  
kung pag umuulan eh iiwas-iwas sila sa tubig, tapos

**[01:40:00.640] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001934)  
kung napakainit and all. So para po matulungan naman ang mga taga-DSWD, mas

**[01:40:05.520] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001935)  
maraming kababayan natin. Siguro kasi nagrereklamo din yung mga kliyente niyo

**[01:40:10.060] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001936)  
pag pumupunta doon, minsan wala silang masilungan nang maayos. So,

**[01:40:14.120] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001937)  
Mr. Chair, I'd like to reiterate the need to help DSWD sa infra nila.

**[01:40:21.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001938)  
Mr. Chairman, much appreciated. Pero let me just point out again.

**[01:40:26.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001939)  
Naka-embed sa mga budget, nakuwento ko nga ito kay Congressman, naka-embed sa mga

**[01:40:31.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001940)  
budget ng mga region namin yung repairs and maintenance ng kanilang mga tanggapan.

**[01:40:35.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001941)  
Hindi naman ho zero yan eh. That's why the regional director in Region 9 got a

**[01:40:41.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001942)  
tongue-lashing and will get more tongue-lashing after this, because hindi

**[01:40:45.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001943)  
niya ginawa. It's in the initiative also of the regional director. But we

**[01:40:51.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001944)  
do appreciate the additional fund augmentation, of course, pero hindi naman

**[01:40:55.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001945)  
ho dapat umabot sa ganoon. Admittedly, yung pinakita niyo sa aking mga

**[01:40:58.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001946)  
litrato ng mga satellite office sa inyong distrito, hindi ho dapat umabot sa ganoon.

**[01:41:03.720] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001947)  
Pero Secretary, hindi yun yung intensyon ko. Intensyon ko ho naman po, support. Yes.

**[01:41:09.600] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001948)  
Tapos yun lang, Mr. Chair, yung number one concern ko lang talaga is SLP because nakita ko yung promise talaga nung

**[01:41:16.960] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001949)  
program. In fact, si Governor Uy ng Zamboanga del Norte also recognizes

**[01:41:20.660] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001950)  
the promise of

**[01:41:21.540] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001951)  
SLP sa pagtulong lalo na sa mahihirap na mga probinsya. Alam ko yung sa mayayamang probinsya siguro hindi ganoon ka-significant yun.

**[01:41:28.820] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001952)  
But for us, yung mga constituents natin na gusto nilang makahanap din ng paraan na makatayo sa sarili nila,

**[01:41:34.680] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001953)  
na medyo may pride din sila, na gusto nilang umasenso sa sarili nilang pawis, malaking-malaking bagay yung SLP po.

**[01:41:41.100] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001954)  
Sana po yung pondo ng SLP ay madagdagan natin. Yun lang po.

**[01:41:44.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001955)  
Thank you again. I'd like to thank the good congressman for raising two very important things:

**[01:41:48.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001956)  
augmentation for SLP and augmentation for repairs and maintenance or MOOE namin.

**[01:41:52.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001957)  
Huwag ho kayong mag-alala, biro lang ho naman kanina yun.

**[01:41:56.760] Rep. Adrian Michael A. Amatong** (asr-001958)  
Yun lang po. Hindi ko naubos yung time ko. Marami pang magtatanong. Maraming salamat po.

**[01:42:00.720] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001959)  
Thank you. The manifestation of Congressman Amatong is well noted.

**[01:42:05.720] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-001960)  
We move on with Representative Sara Elago.

**[01:42:11.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001961)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair, at magandang araw sa lahat.

**[01:42:14.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001962)  
Kasama sa presentation ng DSWD,

**[01:42:17.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001963)  
ang mga bagong programa tungkol sa Project SAFE,

**[01:42:21.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001964)  
Nandiyan din ang enhanced na ProtecTEEN, hindi bago, pero mas napaunlad.

**[01:42:26.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001965)  
Nandyan din ang programa natin para sa children with disabilities.

**[01:42:32.630] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001966)  
Magkano ang pondo nito para sa susunod na taon?

**[01:42:40.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001967)  
Mr. Chairman, right now, itong mga programa na ito are good programs na this year,

**[01:42:45.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001968)  
Nagkaroon ho ng tulong sa Kongreso at Senado na nakatanggap sila ng tig-25 million each.

**[01:42:53.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001969)  
Pero dahil sa NEP, inalis ho yun ulit, bumalik siya sa bare essentials na 50 million na paghahatian nilang tatlo.

**[01:43:01.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001970)  
Pero we also wrote the committee na baka puwede hong ibalik yung tig-25 million nila para mapalago natin itong mga programa na ito.

**[01:43:09.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001971)  
Mr. Chair, ano-ano yung maapektuhan ng mga activities kung hindi mapupondohan ito para sa susunod na taon?

**[01:43:17.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001972)  
Ang proposal ng DSWD nasa 25 million level pa rin.

**[01:43:21.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001973)  
Obviously, Mr. Chair, we wanted more.

**[01:43:23.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001974)  
Pero naunawaan na rin namin na may tight fiscal space.

**[01:43:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001975)  
So right now, hiningi na lang namin na sana mabalik lang sa 25 million kasi these are very good programs.

**[01:43:33.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001976)  
Ang mga target beneficiaries nito...

**[01:43:45.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001982)  
Yeah, the targets.

**[01:44:08.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001983)  
For the ProtecTEEN program that takes care of our young mothers, to make sure that they don't give up on their dreams,

**[01:44:15.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001984)  
and that their dignity is there,

**[01:44:17.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001985)  
and that they can pursue and become productive.

**[01:44:20.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001986)  
The total, the phase one of it is 415 young mothers for this year.

**[01:44:28.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001987)  
Ang maapektuhan siyempre kung hindi bumalik yan, yung 415 plus our projection sana na i-grow pa ito ng 841 nakaragdagang mga batang ina.

**[01:44:37.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001988)  
And then sana sa year three, another 1,128.

**[01:44:41.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001989)  
So all these numbers will not happen if we don't get back the funding that we had.

**[01:44:46.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001990)  
Now for Project Aruga, ito naman yung tulong natin sa mga pamilya na may mga anak na espesyal na pangangailangan,

**[01:44:52.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001991)  
ang tinitingnan natin na maaaring maapektuhan ay 3,390 households.

**[01:44:57.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001992)  
Now for Project SAFE,

**[01:45:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001993)  
ito ho kasi, it's an advocacy program that protects us from OSAEC, or Online Sexual Abuse and Exploitation of Children, and trafficking.

**[01:45:09.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001994)  
Ang total na maapektuhan will be 3,417.

**[01:45:16.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001995)  
Mr. Chair, hindi dapat zero. Dapat ma-restore ang 25 million pesos.

**[01:45:20.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001996)  
Kung kaya pang dagdagan, dapat dagdagan para sa ProtecTEEN, Project SAFE at Project Aruga.

**[01:45:25.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001997)  
Ngayon naman, Mr. Chair, nabanggit kanina yung tungkol sa Haven for Women and Children.

**[01:45:31.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001998)  
Yung binanggit nyo po ba kaninang mga bilang para yun sa Haven for Women and Children na?

**[01:45:36.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001999)  
O magkahiwalay pa?

**[01:45:38.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002000)  
Women lang po ito. Women and children kasama.

**[01:45:42.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002001)  
Nasaan?

**[01:45:46.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002001-split-2)  
Mr. Chair, magkasabay po, women and children.

**[01:45:50.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002002)  
They're normally, yung mga binanggit po namin na numero 14 na DSWD Managed,

**[01:45:54.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002003)  
45 na LGU,

**[01:45:55.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002004)  
and then 54 na private that we also watch over.

**[01:46:02.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002005)  
May bilang po ba kayo nung bilang ng mga victim survivors clients?

**[01:46:07.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002006)  
Sa pampubliko at pampribado?

**[01:46:25.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002007)  
Mr. Chair, we'll furnish you a copy of the data being asked pag private at LGU ran.

**[01:46:31.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002008)  
What we have yung sa DSWD, 5,833.

**[01:46:36.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002009)  
5,833.

**[01:46:37.090] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002010)  
May na-identify ba kayo ng mga LGUs?

**[01:46:40.930] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002011)  
Na kinakailangan pang magtayo ng mga bagong social welfare facility?

**[01:46:47.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002012)  
Meron po, Mr. Chair, and we'll gladly furnish you.

**[01:46:49.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002013)  
Pero ang naging direction na ho namin is a PPP scheme.

**[01:46:52.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002014)  
If you can do PPP for healthcare, you can do PPP for social welfare and social protection.

**[01:46:58.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002015)  
Kasi una po, para magtayo, we need land.

**[01:47:00.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002016)  
And then pangalawa, may gestation period.

**[01:47:02.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002017)  
Ang construction time and all the permitting will take probably a year.

**[01:47:06.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002018)  
So mas mabilis po sana na i-augment na lang natin ulit yung nawala naming pondo

**[01:47:10.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002019)  
na in-allow na kami mag-cost of care na lang.

**[01:47:13.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002020)  
Yung mga ina-credit na namin, bigyan na lang natin sila ng mga kliyente

**[01:47:17.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002021)  
kasi they do it very well anyway at bayaran na lang po natin yung cost of care.

**[01:47:21.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002022)  
Mas mabilis po yun.

**[01:47:22.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002023)  
There are spare capacities for every segment, for every type of vulnerable community in the private swadas.

**[01:47:30.330] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002024)  
Mr. Chair, hintayin natin yung ulat tungkol doon sa na-ca-cater ng pampubliko at pampribado,

**[01:47:36.070] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002025)  
Kung magkano pa yung kinakailangan na pondo para ma-address.

**[01:47:40.290] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002026)  
Yung gap kung meron man sa mga lugar na nangangailangan ng mga shelters.

**[01:47:44.790] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002027)  
Kasi marami pa rin talagang mga victim-survivors ng abuse ang mga nangailangan ng mga temporary shelters

**[01:47:52.410] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002028)  
para meron silang ligtas na espasyo para makapagpagaling at matulungan tungo sa recovery.

**[01:47:59.470] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002029)  
Ngayon naman, nais kong magtanong sa Council for the Welfare of Children.

**[01:48:05.670] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002030)  
Kung mamarapatin ng ating Mr. Chair at ng Secretary.

**[01:48:09.450] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002031)  
Atungkol ho ito.

**[01:48:10.290] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002032)  
Ito sa implementation ng Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act.

**[01:48:15.190] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002033)  
Ano ko ang status ng implementation ito?

**[01:48:17.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002034)  
Mr. Chairman, again, let me be the one to answer if I can for our attached agencies.

**[01:48:23.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002035)  
I will not be answering for NAPC, PCUP, and NCSC for the record because they're merely supervised agencies.

**[01:48:30.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002036)  
Their executive directors will do so.

**[01:48:32.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002037)  
Mr. Chairman, itong usapin na ito naging napakainit dahil nga sa mga state ng mga pangyayari na hindi natin lahat ginugusto.

**[01:48:40.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002038)  
It's being implemented, pero there's room for improvement.

**[01:48:44.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002039)  
Hindi pa siya fully na i-implement.

**[01:48:46.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002040)  
Kaya nga pagdating sa panawagan para ibaba yung minimum age of criminal liability,

**[01:48:50.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002041)  
sinabi na namin for the record na hindi kami sang-ayon dahil hindi pa natin na fully implement.

**[01:48:55.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002042)  
Case in point, una po, kulang ho yung mga Bahay Pag-asa.

**[01:48:58.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002043)  
These bahay pag-asas that were tasked na itayo sa mga highly urbanized cities at mga provinces,

**[01:49:03.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002044)  
hindi pa ho natatayo.

**[01:49:05.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002045)  
Second, last year during the budget hearing, naluwabas na rin ho ito.

**[01:49:09.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002046)  
And that's why we innovated na kung hindi kaya ng mga lokal na pamalaan,

**[01:49:13.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002047)  
magtayo tayo ng mga regional bahay pag-asa.

**[01:49:16.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002048)  
You gave us a budget for five, a startup capital.

**[01:49:19.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002049)  
We are waiting for the SARO release.

**[01:49:21.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002050)  
Pero ready na ho kami to create those, to build those bahay pag-asa.

**[01:49:25.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002051)  
But again, baka sabihin nyo ang tagal.

**[01:49:28.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002052)  
The cost of care will also allow us to divert some of our clients to CICL private facilities.

**[01:49:37.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002053)  
Meron po niyan.

**[01:49:38.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002054)  
In fact, they do it.

**[01:49:39.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002055)  
So, unfortunately, the JJWA hasn't fully been implemented,

**[01:49:45.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002056)  
lalong-lalo na pagdating doon sa aspeto na giving them a second chance.

**[01:49:49.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002057)  
The restorative justice part of it.

**[01:49:52.250] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002058)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair, sa posisyon ng DSWD

**[01:49:56.070] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002059)  
na magkaroon ng buong-buo na implementation ng Juvenile Justice and Welfare Act.

**[01:50:03.290] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002060)  
Matugunan yung mga gaps, mabigyan ng mga pondo

**[01:50:06.150] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002061)  
ang mga kinakailangan na facilities at services.

**[01:50:09.310] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002062)  
At gayon din sa posisyon ng pagtutol sa pagpapababa ng minimum age of criminal responsibility.

**[01:50:18.590] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002063)  
Na posisyon din ng representasyon na ito.

**[01:50:21.270] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002064)  
Kaugnay niyan, Mr. Chair, mahingi po tayo sa DSWD:

**[01:50:25.750] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002065)  
Ano po yung mga priority doon sa mga gaps na dapat nating pondohan with urgency and necessity for the next year?

**[01:50:33.350] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002066)  
And then, next.

**[01:50:34.150] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002067)  
Gusto ko pong magtanong in particular dito sa AgriCamp facility

**[01:50:39.310] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002068)  
Na tinatayo sa Palawan.

**[01:50:41.530] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002069)  
Natapos na po ba ito?

**[01:50:44.190] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002070)  
At bakit po napili na lokasyon ang current location nito?

**[01:50:50.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002071)  
Una po, binigay po kasi yung lupa.

**[01:50:51.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002072)  
Nandun yung Bucor na property, yung sa Iwahig.

**[01:50:54.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002073)  
Napakalaki po ng kanilang lote.

**[01:50:56.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002074)  
And di ba, kung matatandan po natin, Mr. Chair,

**[01:50:58.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002075)  
ang magmamanage naman ng AgriCamp sa batas ay yung Bucor.

**[01:51:02.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002076)  
So, doon nilagay para malapit na sa kanilang existing operations

**[01:51:06.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002077)  
at napakalawak ng kanilang lupa.

**[01:51:09.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002078)  
So, binigay po nila yung parasela sa atin at ongoing po yung construction.

**[01:51:14.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002079)  
Admittedly, nagkaroon lang po kami ng konting hiccup na tigil ng konti.

**[01:51:17.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002080)  
Pero, we're now in the process of jump-starting again.

**[01:51:20.610] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002081)  
Ano po yung mga hiccup?

**[01:51:21.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002082)  
Number one, meron pong mga informal settlers na kailangan namin siguraduhin

**[01:51:26.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002083)  
na ang kanilang mga karapatan ay hindi namin na va-violate

**[01:51:30.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002084)  
kasi meron pong nakatira doon sa property ng Bucor.

**[01:51:33.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002085)  
And pangalawa, we made sure rin na sumusunod kami sa mga environmental standards

**[01:51:37.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002086)  
na naka-prescribe.

**[01:51:39.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002087)  
Dahil alam naman natin, napaka-sensitive pagdating sa Palawan.

**[01:51:45.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002088)  
Hindi lang, Mr. Chair, sa environmental standards.

**[01:51:48.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002089)  
Pero gusto ko hong matanong kung meron bang standards na naset

**[01:51:52.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002090)  
ang DSWD, ang CWC, ang JJWC, pagdating doon sa mismong location.

**[01:52:00.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002091)  
Ang concern po natin, sinabi nyo naman po, hindi ito pinili,

**[01:52:03.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002092)  
kundi ibinigay at Bucor ang nag-identify

**[01:52:08.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002093)  
at hindi po DSWD at CWC.

**[01:52:11.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002094)  
Ang concern lang po namin, nabangkit nyo na rin yung proximity

**[01:52:14.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002095)  
doon sa existing population sa iwahig prison and penal farm.

**[01:52:20.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002096)  
Nababahala po kami na yung mismong location

**[01:52:24.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002097)  
ay mas mataas na yung risk para sa stigma at discrimination

**[01:52:29.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002098)  
na maaaring maranasan ng mga convicted children

**[01:52:32.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002099)  
na mag-undertake ng rehabilitation doon sa area.

**[01:52:37.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002100)  
So yun po ang aming pangunahing concern.

**[01:52:39.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002101)  
Kaya namin tinatanong kung meron ba,

**[01:52:41.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002102)  
baka yung particular standards as regards choosing the location.

**[01:52:45.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002103)  
First, let me just, again, baka hindi ko nalinaw na mabuti,

**[01:52:48.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002104)  
ang desisyon na yun ay joint decision ng DSWD,

**[01:52:51.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002105)  
ng DOJ, BuCor, as well as nandoon ho yung JJWC.

**[01:52:55.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002106)  
Personally, ako nakapunta na ho ako doon sa property.

**[01:52:58.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002107)  
Una, maganda ho siya, kaaya-aya ho siya.

**[01:53:00.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002108)  
The setting kasi of an agri-camp has to be an open expanse.

**[01:53:04.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002109)  
Hindi yun man ho natin siya pwede ilagay sa limit.

**[01:53:06.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002110)  
Okay, for the record, 50 years later,

**[01:53:09.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002111)  
wala pa rin hong agri-camp ang bansa natin.

**[01:53:11.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002112)  
So this is the first time, admittedly, na magtatayo na tayo ng AgriCamp.

**[01:53:15.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002113)  
We've been violating that law over and over again.

**[01:53:18.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002114)  
Nakakatawa nga ho, nire-refer dapat ng mga judge sa mga agri-camp,

**[01:53:24.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002115)  
pero wala naman ang agri-camp ng bansa.

**[01:53:26.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002116)  
So in the end, mas nakakatakot yun ang nangyayari ngayon,

**[01:53:29.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002117)  
na nalalagay sila sa mga pasilidad na hindi naman dapat na natatagpuan yung mga kabataan natin.

**[01:53:34.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002118)  
So one, it was a joint decision.

**[01:53:36.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002119)  
Two, let me assure you na yung dati naming undersecretary at yung current namin na undersecretary,

**[01:53:41.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002120)  
na mga colleagues rin natin dito,

**[01:53:43.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002121)  
pinuntahan rin nila yun bago kami nag-sign off.

**[01:53:46.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002122)  
Si former undersecretary Villar and current undersecretary Dimaporo.

**[01:53:50.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002123)  
Lahat po yan, palahat kami pinuntahan namin.

**[01:53:52.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002124)  
Maganda ho yung lugar, kaaya-aya.

**[01:53:55.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002125)  
And ma'am, if I can give you the picture,

**[01:53:57.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002126)  
sobrang laki nung property ng Iwahig.

**[01:54:00.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002127)  
Napakalayo rin niya kung nasaan yung main Iwahig.

**[01:54:03.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002128)  
Nasa peripheral siya, it's a mountainous area,

**[01:54:05.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002129)  
perfect for an agriculture setting.

**[01:54:08.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002130)  
So we assure you na meron ho kaming pag-aaral dyan.

**[01:54:11.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002131)  
Standards naman, hindi ho yan lalagpas sa department,

**[01:54:14.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002132)  
lalo na sa standards department namin,

**[01:54:16.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002133)  
if the designs weren't meant to be restorative,

**[01:54:20.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002134)  
rehabilitative, with a dream later on for reintegration.

**[01:54:26.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002135)  
Maraming salamat ho.

**[01:54:27.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002136)  
Abukad sa nabanggit ko na na-concern,

**[01:54:29.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002137)  
yung tungkol din sa lapit niya sa maaring mga families, relatives,

**[01:54:34.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002138)  
na bibisita dun sa mga convicted children.

**[01:54:37.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002139)  
Dahil ito ay nasa malayong lugar,

**[01:54:39.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002140)  
patuloy natin hong babantayan,

**[01:54:41.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002141)  
Mr. Chair,

**[01:54:42.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002142)  
at kung pwede rin mag-schedule ang ating sariling committee

**[01:54:46.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002143)  
for the welfare of children ng bagong ocular inspection

**[01:54:49.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002144)  
para tignan yung mga developments dun sa area.

**[01:54:52.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002145)  
At kung maaari, huwag na ho nating isama

**[01:54:54.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002146)  
kasi lagi ho, pag nakikita ko sa mga statements,

**[01:54:57.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002147)  
nakadikit ho yung construction ng agri-camp dun sa pangalan ng Iwahig.

**[01:55:02.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002148)  
Again, yung risk po ng stigma at discrimination dahil dito.

**[01:55:06.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002149)  
Well noted, Mr. Chairman.

**[01:55:07.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002150)  
Just as a point of information though,

**[01:55:09.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002151)  
isa to sa marami na ini-envision,

**[01:55:11.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002152)  
meaning hindi naman ito yung isa lang,

**[01:55:14.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002153)  
na una lang talaga.

**[01:55:16.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002154)  
And the dream is to build one in Luzon,

**[01:55:18.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002155)  
build one in Mindanao,

**[01:55:19.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002156)  
even if Palawan's in Luzon,

**[01:55:21.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002157)  
pero mas malapit rin siya sa proximity ng Visayas,

**[01:55:24.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002158)  
para nga ho sa accessibility ng mga pamilya.

**[01:55:26.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002159)  
Maraming salamat.

**[01:55:27.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002160)  
At tungkol naman, Mr. Chair,

**[01:55:29.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002161)  
sa implementation ng Expanded Solo Parents Welfare Act,

**[01:55:33.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002162)  
lahat ba ng LGUs ay nakapagbibigay ng monthly cash subsidy

**[01:55:37.900] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002163)  
para sa low-income solo parents?

**[01:55:40.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002164)  
May rekomendasyon bang,

**[01:55:41.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002165)  
ng DSWD

**[01:55:42.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002166)  
para yung mga hindi pa nako-cover

**[01:55:44.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002167)  
ay makabenefisyo mula sa batas na ito?

**[01:55:47.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002168)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[01:55:47.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002169)  
if my recollection serves me right,

**[01:55:49.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002170)  
it's the fund availability line is in that law.

**[01:55:52.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002171)  
So talagang alam rin natin,

**[01:55:54.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002172)  
may mga local government units tayo

**[01:55:55.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002173)  
na hirap to fund that mandate.

**[01:55:58.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002174)  
Nakakalungkot man isipin,

**[01:56:00.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002175)  
pero meron talaga mga LGU na hindi pa nagko-comply.

**[01:56:04.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002176)  
We are pushing them,

**[01:56:05.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002177)  
we are monitoring them,

**[01:56:06.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002178)  
pero kung mabibisita natin yun,

**[01:56:09.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002179)  
hindi funding allocation kasi,

**[01:56:11.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002180)  
depends on the fund availability sa LGUs.

**[01:56:14.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002181)  
So this is the number: of the total 1,658,

**[01:56:18.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002182)  
478 lamang ang mga nagko-comply.

**[01:56:21.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002183)  
Ito yung mga highly urbanized cities

**[01:56:23.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002184)  
at mga component cities na first class.

**[01:56:25.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002185)  
So we really want to ask Congress to look into it

**[01:56:29.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002186)  
na baka ho matulungan natin itong mga LGUs na ito

**[01:56:31.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002187)  
or to somehow make it a priority.

**[01:56:34.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002188)  
Sa tamang oras, Mr. Chair,

**[01:56:35.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002189)  
magpapropose ho tayo ng special provision

**[01:56:37.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002190)  
para matiyak na may pondo

**[01:56:39.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002191)  
kahit po mauna natin,

**[01:56:41.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002192)  
yung mga LGUs,

**[01:56:42.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002193)  
3rd, 4th, at 5th class municipalities

**[01:56:43.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002194)  
para sa monthly cash subsidy

**[01:56:45.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002195)  
para sa mga low-income solo parents.

**[01:56:48.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002196)  
Ngayon naman bilang panghuli,

**[01:56:49.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002197)  
magkano ho ang pondo

**[01:56:51.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002198)  
para sa child development centers,

**[01:56:53.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002199)  
child minding centers,

**[01:56:54.940] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002200)  
at supervised neighborhood play?

**[01:56:57.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002201)  
Mr. Chairman, I don't know

**[01:56:58.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002202)  
because hindi na po sa amin

**[01:57:00.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002203)  
ang ECCD child minding.

**[01:57:02.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002204)  
Nung dumating ako sa department,

**[01:57:04.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002205)  
inalis po sa amin,

**[01:57:05.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002206)  
nilagay sa DepEd,

**[01:57:06.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002207)  
and then later on sa DILG.

**[01:57:08.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002208)  
Unfortunately, I don't have access

**[01:57:09.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002209)  
to that information

**[01:57:09.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002210)  
or I don't know that information.

**[01:57:11.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002211)  
Okay, pero meron ho kayong

**[01:57:13.300] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002212)  
mga current set of standards

**[01:57:15.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002213)  
and policies na pinapatupad.

**[01:57:18.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002214)  
Pwedeng masumite sa committee na ito?

**[01:57:20.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002215)  
Mr. Chair, hindi po sa amin na

**[01:57:22.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002216)  
yung standards nila

**[01:57:23.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002217)  
na sa ECCD Council na po.

**[01:57:25.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002218)  
Ang natira na lang ho sa amin

**[01:57:26.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002219)  
yung universal feeding

**[01:57:27.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002220)  
ng mga daycare centers,

**[01:57:28.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002221)  
the nutritional side of it.

**[01:57:30.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002222)  
Okay, so niisa ho sa mga ito

**[01:57:31.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002223)  
ay wala hong pondo ang DSWD?

**[01:57:35.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002224)  
Because, Mr. Chair,

**[01:57:36.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002225)  
inalis na po sa amin

**[01:57:37.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002226)  
yung mandate na yun.

**[01:57:38.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002227)  
Alright, maraming salamat ho.

**[01:57:40.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002228)  
Maraming salamat.

**[01:57:41.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002229)  
Mr. Chair, and I will register

**[01:57:42.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002230)  
for the second round.

**[01:57:43.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-002231)  
Thank you.

**[01:57:43.700] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002232)  
Thank you very much, Kong Sara.

**[01:57:47.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002233)  
May we now recognize

**[01:57:48.360] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002234)  
Representative Tracy Cagas.

**[01:57:53.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002235)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[01:57:55.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002236)  
Magandang araw po sa ating lahat

**[01:57:57.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002237)  
to my good secretary.

**[01:58:01.980] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002238)  
Ito po ay hindi naman katanungan.

**[01:58:04.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002239)  
I just want to commend

**[01:58:06.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002240)  
the department

**[01:58:07.880] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002241)  
for a very exemplary performance

**[01:58:11.040] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002242)  
on my part

**[01:58:19.170] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002243)  
as a district representative.

**[01:58:22.850] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002244)  
I'm helping DSWD.

**[01:58:25.990] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002245)  
Yung mga buildings na yan,

**[01:58:27.910] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002246)  
nagpagawa po tayo

**[01:58:28.970] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002247)  
galing sa basic infra

**[01:58:31.110] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002248)  
ng congressman.

**[01:58:32.530] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002249)  
Pagawa tayo ng mga buildings

**[01:58:33.830] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002250)  
for the [unclear].

**[01:58:37.710] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002251)  
So kulang pa,

**[01:58:39.430] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002252)  
but at least nasimula na.

**[01:58:40.670] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002253)  
May natapos na akong

**[01:58:42.370] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002254)  
isang building

**[01:58:43.710] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002255)  
for a certain program.

**[01:58:45.710] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002256)  
Ngayon may dagdag naman akong

**[01:58:46.750] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002257)  
dalawang building

**[01:58:47.510] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002258)  
for DSWD.

**[01:58:49.170] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002259)  
Para hindi na masakit

**[01:58:50.050] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002260)  
yung ulo mo.

**[01:58:51.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002261)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[01:58:55.950] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002262)  
My question now is about

**[01:58:58.070] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002263)  
hindi naman question,

**[01:58:59.390] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002264)  
qualification lang.

**[01:59:00.330] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002265)  
Itong social pension

**[01:59:01.490] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002266)  
for senior citizen.

**[01:59:05.670] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002267)  
Yung sabi,

**[01:59:06.510] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002268)  
age-based na siya.

**[01:59:08.670] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002269)  
So, kasi alam natin

**[01:59:10.230] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002270)  
maraming

**[01:59:10.710] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002271)  
maraming

**[01:59:11.650] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002272)  
social pension.

**[01:59:12.370] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002273)  
Seniors, no?

**[01:59:13.530] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002274)  
All over the country,

**[01:59:14.650] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002275)  
mga 12 million yata eh.

**[01:59:16.450] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002276)  
But dito sa DSWD,

**[01:59:18.510] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002277)  
ano lang,

**[01:59:18.930] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002278)  
mga 4 million?

**[01:59:21.130] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002279)  
4 million?

**[01:59:21.810] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002280)  
4.2, Mr. Chairman.

**[01:59:22.850] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002281)  
4.2 million.

**[01:59:24.470] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002282)  
So,

**[01:59:25.510] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002283)  
paano ba ito

**[01:59:27.710] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002284)  
70 years old?

**[01:59:30.890] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002285)  
Yun ang my priority.

**[01:59:32.250] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002286)  
70 years old and above.

**[01:59:34.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002287)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[01:59:35.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002288)  
again,

**[01:59:35.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002289)  
we've always been lobbying

**[01:59:37.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002290)  
for a full coverage.

**[01:59:39.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002291)  
Na sana lahat na lang sila.

**[01:59:40.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002292)  
Kasi when we talk to our

**[01:59:42.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002293)  
seniors,

**[01:59:42.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002294)  
they truly deserve it.

**[01:59:44.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002295)  
But unfortunately,

**[01:59:45.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002296)  
because of tight fiscal space,

**[01:59:46.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002297)  
laging ito lang

**[01:59:47.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002298)  
yung napoprovide.

**[01:59:48.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002299)  
So, in the order of

**[01:59:49.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002300)  
prioritization,

**[01:59:50.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002301)  
ang una natin ginagawa,

**[01:59:52.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002302)  
inaalis,

**[01:59:52.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002303)  
because the law said,

**[01:59:53.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002304)  
pagka-pensioner ka na

**[01:59:54.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002305)  
ng SSS,

**[01:59:55.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002306)  
GSIS,

**[01:59:56.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002307)  
or yung

**[01:59:57.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002308)  
PVAO,

**[02:00:00.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002309)  
aalisin na ho kayo

**[02:00:01.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002310)  
and sometimes doon ho

**[02:00:02.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002311)  
sumasama yung loob

**[02:00:03.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002312)  
ng mga senior citizen

**[02:00:04.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002313)  
kasi ang liit na nga

**[02:00:05.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002314)  
nung pension na yun

**[02:00:06.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002315)  
and they don't know na

**[02:00:07.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002316)  
nadi-disqualify sila

**[02:00:08.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002317)  
because of that.

**[02:00:10.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002318)  
So marami kaming grievance

**[02:00:11.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002319)  
because akala nila

**[02:00:12.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002320)  
qualified sila

**[02:00:13.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002321)  
pero pagsilip namin

**[02:00:14.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002322)  
sa SSS

**[02:00:15.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002323)  
nandun sila.

**[02:00:16.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002324)  
Pangalawa,

**[02:00:17.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002325)  
para to make it fair,

**[02:00:19.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002326)  
what we did was age-based.

**[02:00:21.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002327)  
90 years old

**[02:00:22.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002328)  
or 100 years old

**[02:00:23.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002329)  
pa baba.

**[02:00:24.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002330)  
Kasi nga,

**[02:00:25.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002331)  
malaki yung catchment,

**[02:00:26.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002332)  
inuna na ho natin

**[02:00:27.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002333)  
yung mas matatanda

**[02:00:28.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002334)  
na talagang kailangan

**[02:00:30.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002335)  
na kailangan.

**[02:00:31.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002336)  
At the onset,

**[02:00:32.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002337)  
dahil nga sa CBMS law,

**[02:00:34.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002338)  
kinukuha lang namin yun

**[02:00:34.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002339)  
na sa loob ng CBMS

**[02:00:36.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002340)  
kasi yun ang sabi

**[02:00:37.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002341)  
ng batas po.

**[02:00:37.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002342)  
In fact,

**[02:00:38.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002343)  
makukuha nga kami

**[02:00:39.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002344)  
pag hindi.

**[02:00:40.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002345)  
Pero later on,

**[02:00:41.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002346)  
upon talking to PSA,

**[02:00:43.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002347)  
admittedly,

**[02:00:44.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002348)  
may mga matanda

**[02:00:44.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002349)  
na hindi nasama

**[02:00:45.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002350)  
sa CBMS.

**[02:00:47.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002351)  
So ang ginawa na lang natin,

**[02:00:49.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002352)  
pag wala ka sa CBMS,

**[02:00:51.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002353)  
yun yung proseso

**[02:00:52.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002354)  
na may mga waitlists

**[02:00:53.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002355)  
galing sa mga

**[02:00:53.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002356)  
local government units.

**[02:00:55.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002357)  
Papadala namin sa PSA,

**[02:00:57.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002358)  
sasabihin namin,

**[02:00:57.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002359)  
una,

**[02:00:58.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002360)  
nasa birth registry nyo ba to?

**[02:01:00.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002361)  
At sana wala sila

**[02:01:00.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002362)  
sa death registry.

**[02:01:02.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002363)  
So meaning,

**[02:01:03.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002364)  
matanda to,

**[02:01:04.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002365)  
at buhay pa to,

**[02:01:06.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002366)  
wala lang sa CBMS.

**[02:01:07.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002367)  
So kung nandun na sa list

**[02:01:08.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002368)  
ng LGU

**[02:01:09.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002369)  
at nasa birth registry ka,

**[02:01:11.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002370)  
wala ka sa death registry,

**[02:01:12.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002371)  
may edad ka na,

**[02:01:13.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002372)  
pinapasok rin ho namin yun.

**[02:01:17.550] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002373)  
I joined your observation

**[02:01:21.290] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002374)  
na yung CBMS kasi

**[02:01:22.650] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002375)  
maraming naligtaan

**[02:01:24.330] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002376)  
during the

**[02:01:25.670] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002377)  
survey.

**[02:01:27.730] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002378)  
Conducted by PSA.

**[02:01:29.950] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002379)  
Alam naman natin

**[02:01:30.930] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002380)  
na kulang yung mga tao nila.

**[02:01:32.890] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002381)  
So they relied on

**[02:01:33.950] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002382)  
barangay health workers

**[02:01:35.170] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002383)  
papunta pa ikot-ikot.

**[02:01:38.310] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002384)  
Ayun,

**[02:01:38.890] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002385)  
so mga 20% siguro

**[02:01:40.770] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002386)  
naligtaan.

**[02:01:41.930] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002387)  
So I hope

**[02:01:42.770] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002388)  
with your good

**[02:01:43.970] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002389)  
good secretary

**[02:01:44.490] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002390)  
can intervene

**[02:01:46.150] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002391)  
para maibalik

**[02:01:48.350] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002392)  
yung mga

**[02:01:48.850] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002393)  
nawala na senior citizen.

**[02:01:51.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002394)  
Okay.

**[02:01:53.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002395)  
So chairman,

**[02:01:53.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002396)  
kaya naglabas kami

**[02:01:54.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002397)  
ng bagong panukala

**[02:01:55.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002398)  
ng on-demand.

**[02:01:56.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002399)  
So mga LGU,

**[02:01:57.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002400)  
sinabi sa amin,

**[02:01:58.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002401)  
oh may matanda dito,

**[02:01:59.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002402)  
wala sa CBMS,

**[02:02:00.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002403)  
kukunin namin yun,

**[02:02:01.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002404)  
i-query namin sa PSA

**[02:02:03.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002405)  
kung nasa birth registry,

**[02:02:06.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002406)  
sa buhay sila,

**[02:02:07.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002407)  
pinanganak,

**[02:02:07.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002408)  
totoong tao.

**[02:02:09.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002409)  
And then wala dapat

**[02:02:10.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002410)  
sa death registry.

**[02:02:11.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002411)  
Ibig sabihin,

**[02:02:11.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002412)  
hindi pa pumapanaw.

**[02:02:12.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002413)  
Pag pasado ka

**[02:02:13.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002414)  
sa dalawang litmus na yun,

**[02:02:15.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002415)  
you'll be added to the list.

**[02:02:16.990] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002416)  
Thank you.

**[02:02:17.670] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002417)  
Salamat sa clarification.

**[02:02:21.530] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002418)  
My other point is yung

**[02:02:23.110] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002419)  
maganda ka itong programa,

**[02:02:24.950] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002420)  
my favorite program,

**[02:02:26.870] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002421)  
itong SLP.

**[02:02:27.730] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002422)  
Sustainable Livelihood

**[02:02:29.730] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002423)  
Program.

**[02:02:31.090] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002424)  
Kasi sabi mo,

**[02:02:32.590] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002425)  
we are now

**[02:02:33.130] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002426)  
tinuturoan natin

**[02:02:34.810] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002427)  
paano mang isda.

**[02:02:36.130] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002428)  
Hindi tayo

**[02:02:36.570] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002429)  
parang ayuda

**[02:02:37.630] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002430)  
lang palagi.

**[02:02:38.630] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002431)  
So,

**[02:02:41.280] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002432)  
gusto ko lang

**[02:02:42.580] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002433)  
maklarify

**[02:02:43.260] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002434)  
kung

**[02:02:43.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002435)  
yung pondo niya.

**[02:02:47.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002436)  
Kasi,

**[02:02:49.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002437)  
I just want to be

**[02:02:49.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002438)  
clarified kung

**[02:02:50.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002439)  
ano ba yung mga

**[02:02:51.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002440)  
criteria

**[02:02:52.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002441)  
for a

**[02:02:54.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002442)  
certain group,

**[02:02:54.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002443)  
ba grupo ito?

**[02:02:55.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002444)  
Grupo.

**[02:02:56.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002445)  
To avail

**[02:02:57.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002446)  
of that SLP.

**[02:02:59.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002447)  
Or...

**[02:03:02.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002451)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:03:03.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002452)  
first of all,

**[02:03:04.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002453)  
it's allocated per region.

**[02:03:06.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002454)  
And then,

**[02:03:07.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002455)  
ang region na nag-validate,

**[02:03:08.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002456)  
tulad nung kaninang tanong

**[02:03:09.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002457)  
ni Congresswoman Baronda,

**[02:03:10.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002458)  
hindi na lang kami nag-re-rely

**[02:03:11.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002459)  
sa listahan

**[02:03:12.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002460)  
or CBMS.

**[02:03:13.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002461)  
Nag-ground validation

**[02:03:14.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002462)  
ng SLP staff.

**[02:03:16.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002463)  
As long as poor,

**[02:03:16.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002464)  
marginalized,

**[02:03:17.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002465)  
and vulnerable ka.

**[02:03:19.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002466)  
Meron ho yung

**[02:03:19.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002467)  
individual na track,

**[02:03:21.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002468)  
pero mas kine-encourage

**[02:03:22.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002469)  
namin yung group track

**[02:03:23.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002470)  
na ina-aggregate sila

**[02:03:24.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002471)  
as informal.

**[02:03:26.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002472)  
So, yun lang ho

**[02:03:27.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002473)  
ang basic na requirement.

**[02:03:28.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002474)  
You're a poor,

**[02:03:28.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002475)  
marginalized,

**[02:03:29.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002476)  
and vulnerable.

**[02:03:31.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002477)  
And then,

**[02:03:31.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002478)  
i-ca-capacitate natin.

**[02:03:32.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002479)  
Of course,

**[02:03:33.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002480)  
kailangan mag-comply

**[02:03:34.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002481)  
rin sila sa requirements

**[02:03:35.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002482)  
na basic like

**[02:03:35.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002483)  
they undergo

**[02:03:36.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002484)  
a social preparation stage

**[02:03:38.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002485)  
kung saan tinuturoan sila

**[02:03:39.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002486)  
ng mga responsibilidad nila.

**[02:03:41.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002487)  
Paano patakbuhin yung grupo

**[02:03:42.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002488)  
to organize them.

**[02:03:43.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002489)  
And then,

**[02:03:44.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002490)  
the grant is given to them.

**[02:03:47.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002491)  
Okay.

**[02:03:48.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002492)  
So...

**[02:03:49.560] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002493)  
Yung grupo,

**[02:03:50.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002494)  
ilang tao po yun?

**[02:03:51.940] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002495)  
30 ba?

**[02:03:52.700] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002496)  
Tama ba?

**[02:03:53.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002497)  
20 to 30 maximum.

**[02:03:55.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002498)  
Okay.

**[02:03:56.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002499)  
So,

**[02:03:58.020] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002500)  
tatanggap po

**[02:03:58.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002501)  
sila

**[02:03:58.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002502)  
ng

**[02:03:59.140] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002503)  
600,000

**[02:04:00.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002504)  
for a viable

**[02:04:02.060] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002505)  
business proposal.

**[02:04:03.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002506)  
Ang counting ho noon,

**[02:04:05.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002507)  
kung 20 sila,

**[02:04:05.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002508)  
that's around

**[02:04:06.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002509)  
15 to 20,000

**[02:04:07.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002510)  
per member.

**[02:04:08.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002511)  
So, kung 20 sila,

**[02:04:10.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002512)  
imumultiply ho natin yun.

**[02:04:11.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002513)  
Kung 30 sila,

**[02:04:12.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002514)  
imumultiply po natin doon,

**[02:04:13.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002515)  
Mr. Chair.

**[02:04:14.840] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002516)  
Okay.

**[02:04:16.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002517)  
You can assure

**[02:04:17.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002518)  
my support

**[02:04:18.160] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002519)  
to

**[02:04:18.660] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002520)  
augment

**[02:04:19.720] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002521)  
the

**[02:04:20.100] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002522)  
SLP budget,

**[02:04:22.320] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002523)  
sabi mo kanina.

**[02:04:23.640] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002524)  
At least,

**[02:04:24.220] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002525)  
dagdagan ng mga

**[02:04:24.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002526)  
1 billion

**[02:04:25.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002527)  
for a

**[02:04:26.900] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002528)  
very good

**[02:04:27.560] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002529)  
program.

**[02:04:28.780] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002530)  
So,

**[02:04:30.000] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002531)  
I think

**[02:04:30.440] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002532)  
marami pang

**[02:04:31.820] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002533)  
magtanong.

**[02:04:32.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002534)  
It's almost

**[02:04:33.420] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002535)  
12 o'clock.

**[02:04:36.600] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002536)  
I will

**[02:04:37.080] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002537)  
titigil na po ako

**[02:04:38.540] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002538)  
para

**[02:04:38.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002539)  
you can assure

**[02:04:40.920] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002540)  
my

**[02:04:41.340] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002541)  
100%

**[02:04:43.680] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002542)  
support

**[02:04:44.200] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002543)  
to

**[02:04:44.740] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002544)  
this

**[02:04:45.300] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002545)  
DSWD

**[02:04:45.960] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002546)  
budget.

**[02:04:47.760] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002547)  
Thank you,

**[02:04:48.360] Rep. John Tracy F. Cagas** (asr-002548)  
Mr. Chairman.

**[02:04:49.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002549)  
Thank you.

**[02:04:52.680] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002550)  
Thank you.

**[02:04:53.800] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002551)  
Thank you,

**[02:04:57.530] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002552)  
Kong Kagas.

**[02:04:59.450] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002553)  
We now recognize

**[02:05:00.790] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002554)  
Representative

**[02:05:01.730] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-002555)  
JC Avalos.

**[02:05:02.810] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002556)  
Maraming salamat po,

**[02:05:05.310] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002557)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:05:06.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002558)  
and to the DSWD family

**[02:05:07.810] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002559)  
as well as all of its

**[02:05:08.870] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002560)  
attached agencies

**[02:05:09.870] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002561)  
led by Secretary

**[02:05:10.770] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002562)  
Rex Gatchalian.

**[02:05:12.090] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002563)  
Maraming salamat po

**[02:05:12.930] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002564)  
sa pagdalo

**[02:05:13.770] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002565)  
sa ating briefing

**[02:05:14.850] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002566)  
ngayong araw.

**[02:05:15.990] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002567)  
Para sa aking unang

**[02:05:16.830] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002568)  
katanungan po,

**[02:05:17.450] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002569)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:05:18.210] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002570)  
according to latest data,

**[02:05:19.870] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002571)  
poverty incidents

**[02:05:20.670] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002572)  
among the population

**[02:05:21.510] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002573)  
fell from 15.5%

**[02:05:23.690] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002574)  
in 2023

**[02:05:24.490] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002575)  
to 9.7%

**[02:05:26.250] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002576)  
in 2025,

**[02:05:28.330] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002577)  
beating the

**[02:05:28.950] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002578)  
administration's

**[02:05:29.930] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002579)  
target range

**[02:05:30.930] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002580)  
well ahead of schedule.

**[02:05:32.210] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002581)  
So,

**[02:05:32.350] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002582)  
while this is

**[02:05:33.670] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002583)  
a notable achievement,

**[02:05:35.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002584)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:05:36.370] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002585)  
this does not consider

**[02:05:37.610] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002586)  
the effects of the

**[02:05:38.430] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002587)  
Middle East crisis.

**[02:05:39.970] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002588)  
Ayon po,

**[02:05:40.510] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002589)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:05:41.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002590)  
sa PIDS,

**[02:05:42.750] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002591)  
maaaring umakyat

**[02:05:44.010] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002592)  
ang poverty incidents

**[02:05:45.230] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002593)  
by 1.19 points

**[02:05:47.110] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002594)  
and this equates

**[02:05:48.470] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002595)  
to about

**[02:05:48.970] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002596)  
1.34

**[02:05:50.070] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002597)  
million households.

**[02:05:52.530] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002598)  
So,

**[02:05:52.810] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002599)  
para sa aking

**[02:05:53.330] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002600)  
pinakaunang katanungan po,

**[02:05:55.190] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002601)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:05:55.710] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002602)  
gusto ko po malaman

**[02:05:56.490] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002603)  
based on the

**[02:05:57.710] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002604)  
judgment

**[02:05:58.570] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002605)  
of our good

**[02:05:59.450] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002606)  
secretary,

**[02:06:00.850] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002607)  
is that

**[02:06:01.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002608)  
2.3%

**[02:06:02.350] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002609)  
241.56

**[02:06:04.110] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002610)  
billion budget

**[02:06:05.070] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002611)  
sufficient enough

**[02:06:05.930] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002612)  
for DSWD

**[02:06:07.270] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002613)  
to sustain

**[02:06:08.270] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002614)  
the poverty reduction

**[02:06:09.410] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002615)  
momentum

**[02:06:10.390] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002616)  
that we

**[02:06:11.470] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002617)  
are currently

**[02:06:12.750] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002618)  
experiencing.

**[02:06:15.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002619)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:06:16.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002620)  
first of all,

**[02:06:17.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002621)  
we took the initiative

**[02:06:17.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002622)  
of meeting

**[02:06:18.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002623)  
PSA yesterday.

**[02:06:20.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002624)  
We,

**[02:06:21.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002625)  
they did a briefing

**[02:06:21.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002626)  
on the new

**[02:06:22.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002627)  
poverty data.

**[02:06:23.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002628)  
Alam po natin,

**[02:06:24.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002629)  
tulad na nabanggit namin,

**[02:06:25.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002630)  
hindi na nakapako

**[02:06:26.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002631)  
sa 4.4 million

**[02:06:27.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002632)  
yung pamilyang

**[02:06:28.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002633)  
kahabahagi

**[02:06:29.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002634)  
ng 4Ps,

**[02:06:30.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002635)  
kundi it's now

**[02:06:31.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002636)  
based on

**[02:06:31.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002637)  
the

**[02:06:32.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002638)  
poverty incidents.

**[02:06:34.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002639)  
Alam ko yung pangamba

**[02:06:35.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002640)  
ng napakarami.

**[02:06:36.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002641)  
With the new poverty data,

**[02:06:37.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002642)  
babagsak ho

**[02:06:38.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002643)  
ng almost,

**[02:06:38.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002644)  
matitira na lang ho

**[02:06:39.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002645)  
mga 2 million

**[02:06:40.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002646)  
or close to 2 million.

**[02:06:45.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002647)  
Yeah.

**[02:06:48.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002648)  
Yung bilang.

**[02:06:49.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002649)  
Yung bilang.

**[02:06:50.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002650)  
But,

**[02:06:51.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002651)  
in our discussions

**[02:06:52.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002652)  
yesterday,

**[02:06:52.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002653)  
we have to take note of

**[02:06:54.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002654)  
they made us understand

**[02:06:55.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002655)  
two very salient features.

**[02:06:58.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002656)  
Huwag lang yung

**[02:06:58.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002657)  
top line tignan natin.

**[02:06:59.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002658)  
Tignan natin yung

**[02:07:00.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002659)  
buong narrative.

**[02:07:01.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002660)  
Ang narrative,

**[02:07:02.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002661)  
tulad ng binanggit nyo,

**[02:07:03.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002662)  
it does not factor in

**[02:07:05.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002663)  
the Middle East

**[02:07:06.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002664)  
energy emergency

**[02:07:07.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002665)  
and its effect

**[02:07:08.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002666)  
on the poor.

**[02:07:09.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002667)  
And number two,

**[02:07:10.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002668)  
if this was the

**[02:07:11.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002669)  
poverty line,

**[02:07:12.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002670)  
napakarami na nakatungtong lang.

**[02:07:14.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002671)  
Slightly above.

**[02:07:15.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002672)  
That's why

**[02:07:16.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002673)  
our discussion

**[02:07:16.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002674)  
went as far as

**[02:07:18.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002675)  
ano ba yung

**[02:07:19.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002676)  
bagong classification

**[02:07:20.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002677)  
ng near poor.

**[02:07:21.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002678)  
So,

**[02:07:22.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002679)  
wag mo tayo mangamba na

**[02:07:23.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002680)  
yung poor na

**[02:07:24.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002681)  
membro,

**[02:07:24.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002682)  
babagsak na.

**[02:07:25.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002683)  
Kung hindi,

**[02:07:26.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002684)  
titignan rin natin

**[02:07:27.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002685)  
yung bandwidth

**[02:07:28.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002686)  
ng near poor

**[02:07:29.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002687)  
na pwedeng

**[02:07:30.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002688)  
ipasok pa sa

**[02:07:31.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002689)  
4Ps.

**[02:07:32.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002690)  
Now,

**[02:07:32.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002691)  
when it comes to

**[02:07:33.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002692)  
the budget,

**[02:07:34.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002693)  
I think,

**[02:07:34.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002694)  
Mr. Sherman,

**[02:07:34.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002695)  
you're referring to

**[02:07:35.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002696)  
the budget of the

**[02:07:36.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002697)  
4Ps.

**[02:07:36.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002698)  
The overall budget.

**[02:07:37.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002699)  
The overall budget.

**[02:07:39.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002700)  
There were no

**[02:07:39.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002701)  
significant cuts.

**[02:07:41.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002702)  
There was

**[02:07:41.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002703)  
significant cut

**[02:07:43.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002704)  
in the budget

**[02:07:44.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002705)  
of 4Ps,

**[02:07:45.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002706)  
around 13 billion.

**[02:07:46.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002707)  
But that is not

**[02:07:47.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002708)  
going to affect us

**[02:07:49.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002709)  
in any manner

**[02:07:50.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002710)  
or any form

**[02:07:51.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002711)  
because

**[02:07:51.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002712)  
3.5 million pa rin ho

**[02:07:53.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002713)  
yung ating

**[02:07:54.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002714)  
target catchment.

**[02:07:55.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002715)  
So,

**[02:07:56.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002716)  
meaning,

**[02:07:56.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002717)  
despite the

**[02:07:57.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002718)  
lowering of the

**[02:07:58.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002719)  
poverty incidents,

**[02:08:00.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002720)  
ang focus pa rin natin

**[02:08:01.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002721)  
is looking at

**[02:08:02.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002722)  
the poor and the

**[02:08:02.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002723)  
near poor.

**[02:08:03.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002724)  
So,

**[02:08:03.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002725)  
3.5 pa rin

**[02:08:04.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002726)  
ang ating goal.

**[02:08:06.350] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002727)  
For my follow-up

**[02:08:07.390] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002728)  
question po,

**[02:08:08.030] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002729)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:08:08.990] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002730)  
may I inquire

**[02:08:09.930] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002731)  
who determined

**[02:08:10.570] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002732)  
that 3.5 million

**[02:08:12.090] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002733)  
households is the

**[02:08:13.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002734)  
appropriate number?

**[02:08:14.250] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002735)  
Was this the

**[02:08:14.810] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002736)  
DEPTA,

**[02:08:15.270] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002737)  
the DPM,

**[02:08:16.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002738)  
or the DBC?

**[02:08:17.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002739)  
What happened was,

**[02:08:18.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002740)  
in one of the

**[02:08:18.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002741)  
meetings with the

**[02:08:19.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002742)  
President,

**[02:08:21.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002743)  
we had a lengthy

**[02:08:22.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002744)  
discussion.

**[02:08:23.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002745)  
Ang better na

**[02:08:23.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002746)  
tanong niya sa amin

**[02:08:24.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002747)  
was,

**[02:08:25.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002748)  
bakit ba laging

**[02:08:25.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002749)  
4.4?

**[02:08:26.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002750)  
Bakit yan nakapako

**[02:08:27.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002751)  
sa 4.4 million?

**[02:08:29.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002752)  
It is crafted

**[02:08:30.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002753)  
in the Philippine

**[02:08:31.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002754)  
Development Plan.

**[02:08:32.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002755)  
But wala naman yan

**[02:08:33.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002756)  
sa IRR,

**[02:08:34.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002757)  
wala naman sa batas.

**[02:08:35.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002758)  
So,

**[02:08:35.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002759)  
ang naging desisyon

**[02:08:36.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002760)  
together with

**[02:08:37.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002761)  
Secretary Balisakan

**[02:08:38.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002762)  
who was in the room

**[02:08:39.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002763)  
is to make it reflective

**[02:08:40.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002764)  
of the poverty incidents.

**[02:08:42.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002765)  
So, kung umakyat

**[02:08:43.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002766)  
yung poverty incidents,

**[02:08:44.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002767)  
it goes up.

**[02:08:45.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002768)  
And rightfully,

**[02:08:46.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002769)  
if bumaba,

**[02:08:46.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002770)  
bababa.

**[02:08:47.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002771)  
But,

**[02:08:48.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002772)  
again,

**[02:08:48.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002773)  
let me point out

**[02:08:49.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002774)  
na ang coverage niya

**[02:08:50.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002775)  
is not just the poor,

**[02:08:51.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002776)  
but 10% above

**[02:08:52.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002777)  
the poverty threshold.

**[02:08:54.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002778)  
Pero yesterday,

**[02:08:55.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002779)  
we were talking about

**[02:08:55.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002780)  
even expanding it further

**[02:08:57.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002781)  
kasi nga,

**[02:08:58.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002782)  
as pointed out

**[02:08:58.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002783)  
by the PSA,

**[02:09:00.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002784)  
yung concentration

**[02:09:02.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002785)  
nakaangat sila

**[02:09:03.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002786)  
sa kahirapan

**[02:09:03.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002787)  
pero hindi pa sila safe.

**[02:09:06.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002788)  
Kasi nakatungtong sila

**[02:09:07.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002789)  
sa near poor na level.

**[02:09:09.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002790)  
At any shock,

**[02:09:10.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002791)  
as you pointed out,

**[02:09:11.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002792)  
like this energy emergency,

**[02:09:13.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002793)  
might bring them down.

**[02:09:14.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002794)  
So, social protection

**[02:09:15.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002795)  
has to be wider

**[02:09:16.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002796)  
to make sure

**[02:09:17.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002797)  
na yung gains natin

**[02:09:18.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002798)  
ng paglalabas

**[02:09:19.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002799)  
sa kahirapan

**[02:09:20.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002800)  
ay tuloy-tuloy,

**[02:09:21.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002801)  
hindi yung aatras

**[02:09:22.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002802)  
sila pabalik.

**[02:09:24.070] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002803)  
For my follow-up question po,

**[02:09:25.910] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002804)  
Mr. Chair

**[02:09:26.370] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002805)  
and Secretary Rex,

**[02:09:27.770] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002806)  
nabanggit po kanina

**[02:09:28.570] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002807)  
yung CBMS

**[02:09:29.510] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002808)  
at naunawaan ko po

**[02:09:31.110] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002809)  
na napakahirap

**[02:09:31.430] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002810)  
na napakahirap

**[02:09:32.190] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002811)  
para sa DSWD,

**[02:09:33.950] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002812)  
lalong-lalo na

**[02:09:34.630] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002813)  
nung nag-transition tayo

**[02:09:35.770] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002814)  
from listahanan

**[02:09:36.910] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002815)  
to the CBMS.

**[02:09:38.450] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002816)  
And to my understanding po,

**[02:09:39.670] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002817)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:09:40.550] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002818)  
the CBMS law

**[02:09:41.510] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002819)  
was enacted

**[02:09:42.050] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002820)  
sometime around

**[02:09:42.610] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002821)  
2018 or 2019

**[02:09:43.770] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002822)  
and yung census po natin,

**[02:09:46.050] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002823)  
it was,

**[02:09:46.550] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002824)  
the first round

**[02:09:47.110] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002825)  
was supposed to be done

**[02:09:48.090] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002826)  
and accomplished

**[02:09:48.810] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002827)  
last 2024.

**[02:09:50.670] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002828)  
So, based on my understanding

**[02:09:52.230] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002829)  
and for the enlightenment

**[02:09:53.130] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002830)  
of everybody,

**[02:09:54.590] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002831)  
pwede ko po malaman

**[02:09:55.410] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002832)  
mula sa DSWD

**[02:09:56.870] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002833)  
kung nagkakaroon pa

**[02:09:58.390] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002834)  
ng maraming delays

**[02:09:59.690] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002835)  
ang CBMS

**[02:10:00.530] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002836)  
dahil may mga report

**[02:10:01.710] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002837)  
na natapos daw siya

**[02:10:02.710] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002838)  
ng 2024

**[02:10:03.630] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002839)  
pero based on my appreciation

**[02:10:05.930] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002840)  
of the data

**[02:10:06.450] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002841)  
that I've been receiving,

**[02:10:07.950] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002842)  
parang in tranches po

**[02:10:09.110] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002843)  
yung completion niya.

**[02:10:10.490] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002844)  
And I suppose,

**[02:10:11.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002845)  
naapektohan po nito

**[02:10:12.030] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002846)  
ang ating overall budgeting

**[02:10:13.330] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002847)  
not just for the four piece

**[02:10:14.450] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002848)  
but for all our

**[02:10:15.290] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002849)  
social protection programs.

**[02:10:17.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002850)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:10:18.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002851)  
the good congressman

**[02:10:19.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002852)  
is correct

**[02:10:19.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002853)  
in saying na

**[02:10:20.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002854)  
in tranches namin

**[02:10:22.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002855)  
nakukuha lagi

**[02:10:23.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002856)  
yung poor and near poor.

**[02:10:27.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002857)  
Parang ang proseso kasi

**[02:10:29.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002858)  
they'll give it to us

**[02:10:30.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002859)  
pero hindi buo

**[02:10:30.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002860)  
so we'll ask for more.

**[02:10:31.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002861)  
So, we'll ask for more.

**[02:10:31.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002862)  
Pero, Mr. Chairman,

**[02:10:33.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002863)  
rest assured,

**[02:10:34.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002864)  
hindi naman naapektohan yung budget

**[02:10:35.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002865)  
kasi 3.5 talaga

**[02:10:36.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002866)  
yung catchment

**[02:10:37.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002867)  
na tinitignan namin

**[02:10:38.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002868)  
for the four piece.

**[02:10:39.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002869)  
Pero, yun lang nga

**[02:10:40.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002870)  
ang naapektohan

**[02:10:41.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002871)  
is the registry time.

**[02:10:43.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002872)  
Kaya nga ngayon,

**[02:10:43.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002873)  
as we stand right now,

**[02:10:45.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002874)  
we are at 3 million

**[02:10:46.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002875)  
3 million

**[02:10:47.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002876)  
3 point

**[02:10:48.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002877)  
3092

**[02:10:51.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002878)  
so 3.1 million

**[02:10:52.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002879)  
pero may kulang pa kaming

**[02:10:53.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002880)  
400,000

**[02:10:54.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002881)  
yun ang naapektohan

**[02:10:55.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002882)  
in the sense na

**[02:10:55.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002883)  
kailangan kasi i-publish

**[02:10:57.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002884)  
kailangan i-validate

**[02:10:58.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002885)  
kailangan i-community organizing

**[02:10:59.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002886)  
pero ang assurance muna

**[02:11:01.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002887)  
namin by end of October

**[02:11:03.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002888)  
tapos na ho

**[02:11:05.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002889)  
ang buong 3.5 million.

**[02:11:07.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002890)  
We will go back

**[02:11:07.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002891)  
to its original number.

**[02:11:09.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002892)  
Unfortunately,

**[02:11:10.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002893)  
doon ho nangyari

**[02:11:10.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002894)  
ng epekto

**[02:11:11.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002895)  
dahil sa entrances

**[02:11:12.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002896)  
namin nakukuha

**[02:11:13.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002897)  
yung red enrollment

**[02:11:14.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002898)  
dahan-dahan din.

**[02:11:17.850] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002899)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:11:19.170] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002900)  
gusto ko lang po malaman

**[02:11:20.150] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002901)  
sa in case of

**[02:11:21.390] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002902)  
four piece households

**[02:11:23.130] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002903)  
what happens

**[02:11:24.190] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002904)  
to a household

**[02:11:25.290] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002905)  
let's say

**[02:11:25.830] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002906)  
originally

**[02:11:27.390] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002907)  
identified ka

**[02:11:28.590] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002908)  
as poor

**[02:11:29.050] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002909)  
under listahan ng three

**[02:11:30.070] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002910)  
qualified for four piece

**[02:11:31.570] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002911)  
kaso lang na waitlist

**[02:11:33.090] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002912)  
dahil walang available slot

**[02:11:34.730] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002913)  
and then let's say

**[02:11:35.890] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002914)  
you remain poor

**[02:11:36.790] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002915)  
but now

**[02:11:37.610] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002916)  
you cannot be

**[02:11:38.450] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002917)  
located

**[02:11:39.310] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002918)  
or matched

**[02:11:40.190] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002919)  
in the CBMS.

**[02:11:41.790] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002920)  
Meron po ba tayong

**[02:11:42.570] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002921)  
mechanism

**[02:11:43.210] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002922)  
allowing that family

**[02:11:44.330] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002923)  
to request

**[02:11:45.450] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002924)  
inclusion,

**[02:11:46.050] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002925)  
re-enumeration

**[02:11:46.630] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002926)  
or independent validation

**[02:11:48.210] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002927)  
especially if

**[02:11:49.570] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002928)  
3.5 na lang po

**[02:11:51.350] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002929)  
ang ating caseload?

**[02:12:01.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002930)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:12:02.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002931)  
after conferring

**[02:12:04.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002932)  
with our

**[02:12:05.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002933)  
program implementors,

**[02:12:07.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002934)  
we made special provisions

**[02:12:08.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002935)  
na hindi naman

**[02:12:09.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002936)  
ma-review

**[02:12:10.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002937)  
na hulog sa limbo

**[02:12:10.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002938)  
itong mga naka-waitlist.

**[02:12:12.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002939)  
Sila yung tinatawag namin

**[02:12:13.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002940)  
na part ng SET-12.

**[02:12:15.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002941)  
The total number

**[02:12:16.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002942)  
na nakapasok na,

**[02:12:17.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002943)  
ito yung mga worry nyo

**[02:12:18.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002944)  
na dahil nag-transition tayo

**[02:12:20.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002945)  
from one database

**[02:12:20.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002946)  
to another,

**[02:12:22.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002947)  
ang nakapasok na

**[02:12:22.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002948)  
115,000

**[02:12:24.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002949)  
and then another

**[02:12:25.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002950)  
16,000

**[02:12:26.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002951)  
ang due for enrollment

**[02:12:28.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002952)  
also ongoing na

**[02:12:29.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002953)  
in registration nila.

**[02:12:30.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002954)  
So meaning,

**[02:12:31.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002955)  
nasalo naman hoon

**[02:12:31.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002956)  
natin sila.

**[02:12:33.400] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002957)  
Thank you po,

**[02:12:33.940] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002958)  
Mr. Chair.

**[02:12:34.380] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002959)  
And may I ask

**[02:12:35.100] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002960)  
from the DSWD

**[02:12:36.060] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002961)  
kung ilan pa po

**[02:12:36.760] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002962)  
yung mga households

**[02:12:37.580] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002963)  
for revalidation

**[02:12:38.720] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002964)  
sa PSA?

**[02:12:40.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002965)  
We're looking at

**[02:12:42.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002966)  
107,595.

**[02:12:45.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002967)  
Ito ho yung may mga

**[02:12:46.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002968)  
alam ng ground

**[02:12:47.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002969)  
na ground personnel namin

**[02:12:49.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002970)  
na pwede pa ito

**[02:12:50.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002971)  
mag-qualify

**[02:12:50.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002972)  
na kita namin sila

**[02:12:52.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002973)  
sa CBMS

**[02:12:52.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002974)  
and then we're

**[02:12:53.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002975)  
validating them.

**[02:12:54.840] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002976)  
Yes.

**[02:12:55.360] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002977)  
And Mr. Chair,

**[02:12:56.720] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002978)  
based on my understanding,

**[02:12:58.200] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002979)  
napakalaking bagay po

**[02:13:00.240] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002980)  
yung inaccuracy

**[02:13:01.240] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002981)  
and constant delays

**[02:13:02.420] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002982)  
ng CBMS

**[02:13:03.900] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002983)  
on the part of the

**[02:13:04.940] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002984)  
PSA

**[02:13:05.940] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002985)  
dahil dito naapektuhan

**[02:13:07.020] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002986)  
yung implementation

**[02:13:08.100] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002987)  
ng DSWD

**[02:13:09.020] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002988)  
sa kanyang mga

**[02:13:09.620] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002989)  
essential programs.

**[02:13:11.640] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002990)  
So may mga concerns po

**[02:13:12.900] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002991)  
madalas na may mga

**[02:13:14.060] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002992)  
beneficiaries

**[02:13:14.600] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002993)  
na na-exclude.

**[02:13:16.240] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002994)  
For example,

**[02:13:17.460] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002995)  
yung mga ineligible

**[02:13:18.260] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002996)  
indigent senior citizens.

**[02:13:20.360] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002997)  
Minsan may mga erroneous

**[02:13:21.420] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002998)  
identification po

**[02:13:22.420] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-002999)  
ng beneficiaries

**[02:13:23.100] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003000)  
let's say sa walang

**[02:13:24.260] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003001)  
gutom program

**[02:13:25.080] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003002)  
or social pension program

**[02:13:26.360] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003003)  
and gusto ko po

**[02:13:27.360] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003004)  
tulungan ng ating ahensya

**[02:13:28.720] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003005)  
lalong-lalo na po

**[02:13:29.500] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003006)  
ang ating social

**[02:13:30.460] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003007)  
registry office

**[02:13:32.080] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003008)  
and technical

**[02:13:32.760] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003009)  
coordination units

**[02:13:33.880] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003010)  
to handle

**[02:13:34.680] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003011)  
continuous,

**[02:13:35.600] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003012)  
effective,

**[02:13:36.200] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003013)  
and cross-matching

**[02:13:37.280] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003014)  
of data

**[02:13:38.180] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003015)  
among social protection

**[02:13:39.500] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003016)  
programs of DSWD.

**[02:13:41.340] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003017)  
So gusto ko lang po

**[02:13:42.060] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003018)  
malaman mula sa ating

**[02:13:43.560] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003019)  
ahensya kung

**[02:13:44.340] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003020)  
kakailanganin po ba

**[02:13:45.420] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003021)  
natin ng additional

**[02:13:46.220] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003022)  
funding

**[02:13:46.940] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003023)  
para ma-strengthen po

**[02:13:48.220] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003024)  
natin yung ating

**[02:13:49.020] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003025)  
cross-matching

**[02:13:49.660] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003026)  
mechanisms

**[02:13:50.840] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003027)  
pagdating po

**[02:13:51.520] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003028)  
with the CBMS

**[02:13:52.880] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003029)  
at sa pag-validate po

**[02:13:53.900] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003030)  
natin ng mga beneficiaries.

**[02:13:55.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003031)  
Mr. Sherman,

**[02:13:56.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003032)  
as in always,

**[02:13:56.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003033)  
as head of agency,

**[02:13:57.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003034)  
I would say we would

**[02:13:58.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003035)  
welcome additional funding

**[02:13:59.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003036)  
pero at this point in time

**[02:14:01.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003037)  
I would rather that

**[02:14:02.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003038)  
funding goes to PSA

**[02:14:03.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003039)  
kasi sila yung

**[02:14:05.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003040)  
source data eh.

**[02:14:07.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003041)  
Yesterday,

**[02:14:07.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003042)  
I met with

**[02:14:08.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003043)  
USEC MAPA

**[02:14:09.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003044)  
at ang

**[02:14:09.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003045)  
sabi nga namin

**[02:14:10.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003046)  
sa kanya.

**[02:14:10.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003047)  
Tinanong ko rin ho yan.

**[02:14:11.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003048)  
Sabi ko,

**[02:14:12.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003049)  
I would gladly champion

**[02:14:13.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003050)  
his cause in this hearing.

**[02:14:16.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003051)  
Alam nyo,

**[02:14:17.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003052)  
Mr. Sherman,

**[02:14:18.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003053)  
the setup kasi

**[02:14:19.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003054)  
with PSA

**[02:14:20.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003055)  
is not only are they

**[02:14:21.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003056)  
the depository

**[02:14:22.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003057)  
of the data,

**[02:14:23.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003058)  
they're also doing

**[02:14:23.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003059)  
the national ID.

**[02:14:25.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003060)  
And they clearly

**[02:14:26.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003061)  
lack the manpower

**[02:14:27.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003062)  
to do a lot of things

**[02:14:28.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003063)  
all at the same time.

**[02:14:29.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003064)  
So can you imagine,

**[02:14:30.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003065)  
they're running

**[02:14:31.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003066)  
the field work

**[02:14:32.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003067)  
or data gathering

**[02:14:33.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003068)  
ng CBMS

**[02:14:34.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003069)  
pero yung mga office nila

**[02:14:36.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003070)  
gahol rin sa tao

**[02:14:37.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003071)  
sa pagpasok

**[02:14:38.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003072)  
ng national ID.

**[02:14:39.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003073)  
So we've seen

**[02:14:40.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003074)  
the effects of it

**[02:14:41.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003075)  
na nagdi-delay talaga

**[02:14:42.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003076)  
one of the tasks

**[02:14:43.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003077)  
or the other.

**[02:14:45.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003078)  
So I think,

**[02:14:46.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003079)  
if meron ho tayo

**[02:14:46.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003080)  
sanang tulungan,

**[02:14:47.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003081)  
tulungan ho natin

**[02:14:48.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003082)  
yung PSA

**[02:14:49.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003083)  
by adding more staff

**[02:14:50.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003084)  
for them,

**[02:14:51.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003085)  
more equipment

**[02:14:52.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003086)  
for them,

**[02:14:53.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003087)  
and more satellite

**[02:14:54.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003088)  
offices for them

**[02:14:55.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003089)  
para yung mga

**[02:14:55.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003090)  
constituents ho natin

**[02:14:57.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003091)  
hindi na kailan

**[02:14:58.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003092)  
lumuwas kung saan-saan pa

**[02:14:59.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003093)  
para lang

**[02:15:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003095)  
magpalista at makakuha ng national ID na unti-unti na nagiging bahagi ng mainstream programming ng ating pamalaan.

**[02:15:08.120] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003096)  
Thank you, Secretary. Mr. Chair, gusto ko rin pumalaman.

**[02:15:11.600] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003097)  
Ang social pension budget for 2027 is at around P51.6 billion.

**[02:15:16.880] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003098)  
Yet the target number of beneficiaries actually increases by about 151,775 to reach 4.24 million indigent seniors.

**[02:15:26.700] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003099)  
Given that this is a statutory entitlement, can you confirm that a flat budget is sufficient to cover more beneficiaries without reducing the per-person pension amount or creating new waitlists?

**[02:15:37.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003100)  
Mr. Chairman, it is not enough. Sa waitlist lang or dun sa listahan ng CBMS na pwede pa mag-qualify, that's around half a million already.

**[02:15:45.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003101)  
On top of that, sa mga LGU at katabi hunyo yung isa nating representative who's been championing universal social pension,

**[02:15:52.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003102)  
I think the right way of looking at it is to add more money for social pension.

**[02:15:56.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003103)  
Para ho, makover natin yung mga karapat dapat.

**[02:16:00.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003104)  
Ang hinihingi ho namin dyan, 6.8 billion to cover only those in the CBMS.

**[02:16:06.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003105)  
But if you are going to look at the waitlist sa ground, napakarami pa ho.

**[02:16:11.860] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003106)  
Before I conclude my interpolation, I want to note something positive.

**[02:16:16.980] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003107)  
Even if may mga budget cut po tayo sa DSWD, napansin ko po na tumaas ang ating personal services.

**[02:16:23.120] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003108)  
And its share of the budget grows from 6.3 to about 8.7.

**[02:16:26.700] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003109)  
And this reflects the DBM-approved enhanced structure.

**[02:16:31.240] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003110)  
And does this mean na yung roughly yung mga JO po natin na city and municipal link,

**[02:16:35.640] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003111)  
some of whom have served the department for over a decade,

**[02:16:38.260] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003112)  
will finally transition into a more contractual or permanent position?

**[02:16:42.440] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003113)  
And if so, I would like to put on record that this is a genuine win for the department

**[02:16:48.260] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003114)  
dahil kinikinala po natin ang sipag ng ating mga city and municipal link.

**[02:16:53.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003115)  
It is, Mr. Chairman, and we'd like to thank Congress and Senate

**[02:16:56.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003116)  
for championing it.

**[02:16:58.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003117)  
Dagdag na 5,000 plus na kulang-kulang 5,700 na bagong regular positions yun.

**[02:17:06.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003118)  
That will go to the four-piece cluster, whether you're a social worker or a development worker,

**[02:17:11.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003119)  
with a promise kaagad na may buntot pa siyang another 5,000.

**[02:17:17.060] Rep. JC M. Abalos** (asr-003120)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair. Maraming salamat po, Secretary Rex.

**[02:17:20.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003121)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[02:17:22.140] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003122)  
Thank you, Ko Abalos.

**[02:17:23.720] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003123)  
We now recognize...

**[02:17:26.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003124)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[02:17:31.300] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003125)  
Magandang umaga po sa atin lahat, distinguished colleagues,

**[02:17:35.960] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003126)  
sa ating napakasipag na sekretary.

**[02:17:37.800] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003127)  
Hindi natin natutulog po ito eh.

**[02:17:40.140] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003128)  
I would like to express my strong appreciation

**[02:17:44.180] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003129)  
for the Department of Social Welfare and Development

**[02:17:47.200] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003130)  
sa kanilang exemplary performance.

**[02:17:51.120] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003131)  
Talaga po, totoo po ito.

**[02:17:52.540] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003132)  
At sana, lahat pati atas sa agency,

**[02:17:56.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003133)  
supervised agencies.

**[02:17:57.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003134)  
Congratulations po sa inyo.

**[02:17:59.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003135)  
Pwede ba i-congratulate ko rin ang aking director?

**[02:18:02.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003136)  
She's doing well.

**[02:18:04.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003137)  
At yun ang nagpapatas ng rating niyo.

**[02:18:06.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003138)  
Kung i-rate ko kayo, sekretary,

**[02:18:08.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003139)  
zero to ten, nine.

**[02:18:10.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003140)  
Excellent performance talaga po.

**[02:18:12.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003141)  
Congratulations po.

**[02:18:14.360] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003142)  
Time and again, Mr. Chair,

**[02:18:19.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003143)  
the DSWD serves as the frontline shield of our country,

**[02:18:24.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003144)  
reaching the most vulnerable,

**[02:18:26.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003145)  
delivering immediate relief during disasters,

**[02:18:30.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003146)  
and administering critical social safety nets

**[02:18:34.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003147)  
like PoorPeace, AICS, and ACAP.

**[02:18:37.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003148)  
Your social workers and your field personnel

**[02:18:40.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003149)  
demonstrate unwavering dedication

**[02:18:43.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003150)  
to serving the Filipino people.

**[02:18:46.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003151)  
At mayroon lang po ako, sekretary, katanungan

**[02:18:50.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003152)  
and I would like to hear from you

**[02:18:52.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003153)  
para sa isang mga ating kalinawan.

**[02:18:56.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003154)  
Mr. Chair,

**[02:18:57.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003155)  
sekretary, while shifting to e-wallets

**[02:19:00.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003156)  
and digital banks under initiatives like the

**[02:19:03.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003157)  
banggit mo na kanina yung AFLI program

**[02:19:05.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003158)  
and PoorPeace is commendable,

**[02:19:07.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003159)  
what percentage of DSWD's total payout volume

**[02:19:13.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003160)  
across all social assistance programs

**[02:19:16.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003161)  
is currently disbursed via fully digital channels

**[02:19:20.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003162)  
versus manual cash in-hand payouts?

**[02:19:24.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003163)  
Atlat po ba?

**[02:19:25.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003164)  
Ang mga programa nito ay patungo na po

**[02:19:28.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003165)  
sa digitalization ng payout?

**[02:19:31.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003166)  
May text ng text sa akin po kasi, sekretary,

**[02:19:33.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003167)  
mga mahihirap nating questions sa Bulacan.

**[02:19:36.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003168)  
Paano daw natin masisiguro na ang mga binibisaryo natin

**[02:19:40.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003169)  
na walang bangko, smartphone, o internet

**[02:19:43.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003170)  
ay hindi mapag-iiwanan during payouts?

**[02:19:45.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003171)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[02:19:46.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003172)  
That's correct, Mr. Chairman.

**[02:19:47.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003173)  
For different programs, iba-ibang strokes po.

**[02:19:50.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003174)  
Sa walang gutong program, it's fully digital

**[02:19:52.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003175)  
kasi from day one, digital na yun.

**[02:19:54.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003176)  
For PoorPeace, ganun din ho.

**[02:19:56.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003177)  
Pero admittedly, doon sa social protection

**[02:19:59.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003178)  
like AICS, which bahagi ang Uplift,

**[02:20:01.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003179)  
we're still in the process of doing it.

**[02:20:04.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003180)  
Bakit po?

**[02:20:05.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003181)  
Kasi tulad dito sa Uplift, natuklasan namin,

**[02:20:07.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003182)  
katulad ng Pinoy in doubt nyo,

**[02:20:09.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003183)  
napakaraming mahihirap nating kababayan ng unbanked.

**[02:20:12.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003184)  
Wala silang bank account.

**[02:20:14.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003185)  
So dito sa Uplift, ang goal ho sana namin

**[02:20:17.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003186)  
that entire 2.5 million na Group 2, sana digital na.

**[02:20:22.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003187)  
Pero nung nag-payout ho kami for validation

**[02:20:25.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003188)  
para kunin yung kanila mga GCash account or ATM accounts,

**[02:20:28.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003189)  
only 20% of them ang may mga bank account.

**[02:20:32.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003190)  
So we've been working with the BSP, Banko Sentral,

**[02:20:37.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003191)  
si Deputy Governor Bernard Romulo Puyat

**[02:20:43.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003192)  
to make sure na on this payout sa Uplift,

**[02:20:46.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003193)  
nandun na yung mga banko at GCash.

**[02:20:48.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003194)  
We're enrolling them already.

**[02:20:50.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003195)  
Nahihirapan ho kami kasi gustuhin man namin

**[02:20:53.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003196)  
na mag-digital.

**[02:20:54.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003197)  
Tulad na na-point out nyo,

**[02:20:55.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003198)  
napakarami sa kanila ang walang banko

**[02:20:57.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003199)  
at nanganganib na mapag-iwanan

**[02:20:59.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003200)  
kapagka pipilitin namin yung digital oramismo.

**[02:21:02.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003201)  
Pero sa mga darating na buwan,

**[02:21:03.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003202)  
parami ng parami na ho,

**[02:21:04.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003203)  
20% na yung may bank accounts.

**[02:21:06.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003204)  
So hopefully we can get more than that 20%

**[02:21:08.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003205)  
para maglipat na tayo sa digital format.

**[02:21:11.610] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003206)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair Secretary,

**[02:21:16.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003207)  
for that response.

**[02:21:18.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003208)  
Pangalawang tanong ko po,

**[02:21:19.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003209)  
so last na lang po ito,

**[02:21:20.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003210)  
regarding po doon sa

**[02:21:21.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003211)  
launch of decentralized

**[02:21:24.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003212)  
PWID database

**[02:21:26.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003213)  
with NCDA.

**[02:21:28.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003214)  
How will the DSWD

**[02:21:30.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003215)  
audit existing

**[02:21:32.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003216)  
LGU-issued PWD

**[02:21:34.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003217)  
and senior citizens' cards

**[02:21:36.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003218)  
to purge fake IDs currently exploiting

**[02:21:39.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003219)  
municipal discount benefits?

**[02:21:41.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003220)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[02:21:42.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003221)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:21:43.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003222)  
right now this program is being

**[02:21:45.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003223)  
thought of carefully.

**[02:21:46.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003224)  
We're working with the

**[02:21:48.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003225)  
LGUs actually in the BIR

**[02:21:50.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003226)  
para masigurado natin seamless yung launch niya.

**[02:21:53.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003227)  
Meron tayong mga LGUs na nag-adapt na,

**[02:21:55.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003228)  
ready na sila.

**[02:21:56.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003229)  
Pero again, alam natin na masalimuot to

**[02:21:59.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003230)  
because even in the law on the PWD ID,

**[02:22:01.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003231)  
ang issuing agent talaga is the LGU,

**[02:22:04.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003232)  
not the national government.

**[02:22:06.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003233)  
So we don't want to infringe

**[02:22:08.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003234)  
in that devolved function.

**[02:22:10.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003235)  
Pero it doesn't mean na hindi tayo gagawa ng hakbang.

**[02:22:13.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003236)  
Patuloy tong programa na to,

**[02:22:15.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003237)  
pero tulad din sa inyo,

**[02:22:16.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003238)  
we are moving with utmost caution.

**[02:22:18.270] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003239)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair,

**[02:22:22.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003240)  
Secretary,

**[02:22:23.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003241)  
for that response.

**[02:22:25.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003242)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:22:27.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003243)  
the DSWD serves as the social conscience

**[02:22:31.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003244)  
of our government

**[02:22:32.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003245)  
by providing critical safety nets

**[02:22:34.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003246)  
to vulnerable Filipinos.

**[02:22:36.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003247)  
And within this framework,

**[02:22:38.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003248)  
the National Commission for Senior Citizens

**[02:22:41.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003249)  
stands as a cornerstone

**[02:22:43.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003250)  
in safeguarding the dignity,

**[02:22:45.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003251)  
welfare, and rights of our elderly population.

**[02:22:48.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003252)  
I therefore manifest

**[02:22:50.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003253)  
my full support

**[02:22:51.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003254)  
for the proposed budget

**[02:22:53.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003255)  
of the Department of Social Welfare and Development

**[02:22:56.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003256)  
and the National Commission for Senior Citizens.

**[02:22:59.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003257)  
Kung pwede sana, Mr. Chair,

**[02:23:00.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003258)  
sa mga kasama ko rito

**[02:23:02.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003259)  
sa Commission of Appropriations,

**[02:23:04.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003260)  
dagdagang po natin

**[02:23:05.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003261)  
kung pwede natin dagdagang pa sana ang kanilang budget.

**[02:23:08.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003262)  
Tulog po rin ni our good friend,

**[02:23:10.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003263)  
Congressman Rufus Rodriguez,

**[02:23:12.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003264)  
sigurado,

**[02:23:13.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003265)  
mamayang may dagdag na yan.

**[02:23:15.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003266)  
Thank you po, Mr. Chair.

**[02:23:17.220] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-003267)  
Salamat, Mr. Chairman.

**[02:23:19.220] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003268)  
Thank you.

**[02:23:20.220] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003269)  
Thank you, Kong Plato.

**[02:23:22.220] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003270)  
We now recognize

**[02:23:25.220] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003271)  
Rep. Twitchy Niño.

**[02:23:28.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003272)  
Thank you po.

**[02:23:34.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003273)  
Thank you, Chair.

**[02:23:35.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003274)  
Meron po tayong presentation.

**[02:23:40.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003275)  
Ayan.

**[02:23:41.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003276)  
Okay.

**[02:23:42.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003277)  
So ang unang mga tanong po natin ay

**[02:23:45.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003278)  
mas may kinalaman sa national policy

**[02:23:48.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003279)  
as expressed in the DSWD budget.

**[02:23:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003280)  
Specifically on poverty alleviation.

**[02:23:55.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003281)  
So kinuha po natin yung datos

**[02:23:57.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003282)  
ng mga tawagin nating core ayuda programs

**[02:24:01.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003283)  
ng DSWD from 2016 to 2026.

**[02:24:05.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003284)  
Tapos nandyan din yung proposed ng 2027.

**[02:24:09.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003285)  
So kasama dyan, pinagsama-sama natin yung

**[02:24:13.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003286)  
sa pantawid, 4Ps, AICS, at saka SLP,

**[02:24:18.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003287)  
plus also some others,

**[02:24:20.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003288)  
yung ayuda ACAP, yung food stamp program,

**[02:24:25.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003289)  
at saka yung LITAO.

**[02:24:27.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003290)  
Pero parang tawagin nating mas minor yung mga ngayon.

**[02:24:30.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003291)  
Okay. Anong nakita natin dito?

**[02:24:33.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003292)  
Well, una, yung paglaki.

**[02:24:35.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003293)  
Over a decade, 2016 to 2026.

**[02:24:40.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003294)  
Noong 2016, last year of the Aquino administration,

**[02:24:45.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003295)  
73 billion yung total na ayuda sa ilalim ng DSWD.

**[02:24:49.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003296)  
2026 is na 184 billion.

**[02:24:53.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003297)  
Tapos makikita nyo rin dun sa color coding

**[02:24:56.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003298)  
yung mga share ng iba't ibang programa.

**[02:25:00.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003299)  
Yung blue, yun yung 4Ps.

**[02:25:03.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003300)  
Yung orange, yung AICS.

**[02:25:08.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003301)  
Okay. Lipat tayo.

**[02:25:11.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003302)  
The next tab is NEP versus GAA.

**[02:25:15.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003303)  
Okay. So it's the same.

**[02:25:17.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003304)  
Kaya lang kinumpere lang natin yung NEP as against GAA over the decade.

**[02:25:23.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003305)  
Anong masasabi lang natin dito?

**[02:25:25.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003306)  
Na actually from 2016 to 2020...

**[02:25:30.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003307)  
Sorry.

**[02:25:32.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003308)  
2016 to 2021,

**[02:25:37.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003309)  
ay more or less kung ano yung pinropose ng NEP na ayuda,

**[02:25:43.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003310)  
yun din ang ina-approve ng Kongreso.

**[02:25:47.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003311)  
Sa GAA.

**[02:25:49.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003312)  
Pero napansin natin from 2022,

**[02:25:52.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003313)  
pagpasok huling taon ng Duterte,

**[02:25:55.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003314)  
at lalo na sa ilalim ng Marcos Jr. administration,

**[02:25:58.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003315)  
ay naging significant yung tinatawag minsan insertions

**[02:26:06.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003316)  
ng Kongreso.

**[02:26:08.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003317)  
Pinapalaki significantly yung ayuda.

**[02:26:11.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003318)  
So nakikita natin yan.

**[02:26:12.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003319)  
Especially in 2024 and 2026.

**[02:26:16.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003320)  
Yung yellow, yung nasa taas na yun,

**[02:26:19.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003321)  
that's ACAP.

**[02:26:21.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003322)  
Na pinasok talaga yan ng Kongreso.

**[02:26:23.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003323)  
Okay.

**[02:26:24.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003324)  
Then the next tab,

**[02:26:27.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003325)  
dito yung ilang mga punto natin.

**[02:26:29.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003326)  
One,

**[02:26:30.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003327)  
yung total ayuda budget na covered dito

**[02:26:33.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003328)  
ay lumaki po, Mr. Chair,

**[02:26:35.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003329)  
by 152%.

**[02:26:39.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003330)  
So 152% ang inilaki ng ayuda budget

**[02:26:45.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003331)  
ng DSWD.

**[02:26:47.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003332)  
73 billion 2016,

**[02:26:49.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003333)  
184 billion 2026.

**[02:26:53.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003334)  
So unang tanong,

**[02:26:55.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003335)  
actually,

**[02:26:57.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003336)  
tanong sa Kongreso as much as

**[02:26:59.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003337)  
DSWD.

**[02:27:01.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003338)  
Wala tayo po tayong duda na

**[02:27:03.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003339)  
especially under Secretary Gatchal Yan,

**[02:27:05.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003340)  
ay generally very efficient ang DSWD

**[02:27:09.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003341)  
sa pag-implement ng mga programang ito.

**[02:27:12.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003342)  
Mas ang tanong po natin ay,

**[02:27:14.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003343)  
ano ang masasabi natin

**[02:27:17.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003344)  
sa ganitong mahigit pagdoble

**[02:27:21.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003345)  
ng ayuda budget?

**[02:27:23.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003346)  
Hindi ba pinapakita nito

**[02:27:25.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003347)  
yung mga problema at limitasyon

**[02:27:28.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003348)  
ng patakaran ng poverty alleviation?

**[02:27:31.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003349)  
Bakit?

**[02:27:33.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003350)  
Dahil yes, may natulungang mga mahirap.

**[02:27:37.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003351)  
May mga maaaring, sabi ng DEV-DEV,

**[02:27:40.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003352)  
nabawasan na raw ang bilang ng mahirap sa Pilipinas.

**[02:27:44.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003353)  
Maaaring totoo, may mga nagkokontest nun,

**[02:27:47.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003354)  
pero nabawasan dahil

**[02:27:50.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003355)  
nakadepende sa ayuda.

**[02:27:53.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003356)  
Hindi sa trabaho,

**[02:27:55.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003357)  
hindi sa kabuhayan.

**[02:27:58.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003358)  
Di po ba ganun yun? Anong masasabi ng DSWD dyan?

**[02:28:03.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003359)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:28:05.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003360)  
the points are well taken.

**[02:28:07.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003361)  
Kami kasi in the department,

**[02:28:10.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003362)  
we want to look at certain things,

**[02:28:12.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003363)  
if we can go back to those slides.

**[02:28:14.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003364)  
For instance, yung conditional cash transfer yung 4Ps.

**[02:28:17.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003365)  
Other people will call it ayuda

**[02:28:19.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003366)  
while we call it investment in human capital.

**[02:28:22.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003367)  
Kasi may condition po yan eh.

**[02:28:24.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003368)  
To the same degree, pati yung walang gutom.

**[02:28:26.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003369)  
It's not flat out na ibibigay sa'yo.

**[02:28:28.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003370)  
Now, we also know,

**[02:28:30.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003371)  
by looking at it as human development investments,

**[02:28:33.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003372)  
ito ay paghahanda sa ating mga kababayan

**[02:28:35.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003373)  
na matamasa yung paglago ng ekonomiya

**[02:28:38.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003374)  
kung may mga bagong trabaho na malilika over the years.

**[02:28:41.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003375)  
Kasi alam natin na hindi natin mabubura ang kahirapan overnight.

**[02:28:45.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003376)  
That's why 4Ps is an intergenerational

**[02:28:48.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003377)  
breaking off cycle ng poverty.

**[02:28:51.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003378)  
Kasi ang mangyayari po, kung wala yan,

**[02:28:53.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003379)  
maaaring lalago ang ekonomiya pero maiiwanan yung

**[02:28:56.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003380)  
ilan lang yung tatamasa nung paglago na yun.

**[02:28:58.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003381)  
Because our population, a big segment of it,

**[02:29:01.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003382)  
4.4 million na nagsimula tayo,

**[02:29:03.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003383)  
ay hindi ready to catch that.

**[02:29:05.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003384)  
Kasi hindi nag-aaral, kulang sa early childhood interventions.

**[02:29:09.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003385)  
So kami, we would like to look at that.

**[02:29:11.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003386)  
The 4Ps as a conditional cash transfer

**[02:29:14.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003387)  
more than an ayuda but rather an investment in human capital.

**[02:29:17.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003388)  
Now let's talk about 4Ps.

**[02:29:19.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003389)  
Kalahati kasi ng budget namin kaagad ng 4Ps, Mr. Chairman.

**[02:29:22.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003390)  
Para kahit nakapikit kayo,

**[02:29:24.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003391)  
kung binibigyan kami ng 200 billion,

**[02:29:26.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003392)  
100 billion nun kaagad sa 4Ps.

**[02:29:28.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003393)  
That's why inuna ko siya kasi siya yung pinakalayon share ng aming budget.

**[02:29:33.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003394)  
Pero kung titignan niyo rin ho,

**[02:29:35.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003395)  
starting 2022, bumaba ba na yung bilang ng 4Ps?

**[02:29:39.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003396)  
Kanina tinalakay namin mula sa 4.4 na stagnant lang siya.

**[02:29:43.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003397)  
Ngayon reflective na siya sa bagong poverty incidents.

**[02:29:46.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003398)  
1.77 million na pamilya na.

**[02:29:50.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003399)  
1.77 million Filipino families has graduated out of 4Ps into self-sufficiency.

**[02:29:57.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003400)  
So ibig sabihin, may tagumpay na tayo.

**[02:30:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003401)  
sa kanila. Pero yung tulad

**[02:30:01.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003402)  
ng sinasabi ng DepDev, itong mga

**[02:30:03.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003403)  
naka-breakout, vulnerable pa rin ho sila.

**[02:30:06.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003404)  
At these are the ones

**[02:30:07.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003405)  
na isang shock lang. Kamatayan

**[02:30:09.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003406)  
sa pamilya, bagyo,

**[02:30:12.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003407)  
sakit.

**[02:30:13.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003408)  
It will spiral them back. Kaya nga,

**[02:30:15.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003409)  
if I were to look at this chart,

**[02:30:18.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003410)  
habang lumiliit si 4Ps,

**[02:30:20.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003411)  
nadagdagdagan

**[02:30:21.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003412)  
ang ating ayuda program,

**[02:30:23.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003413)  
because that's meant for social welfare

**[02:30:25.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003414)  
or social protection in times

**[02:30:27.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003415)  
of a shock. Kung

**[02:30:29.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003416)  
bibigay ho namin mamaya, meron ho kaming slide

**[02:30:31.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003417)  
para ipakita yung physical number

**[02:30:33.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003418)  
ng mga tao na nag-avail ng AICS.

**[02:30:36.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003419)  
Now, Mr. Chairman, I know the good

**[02:30:37.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003420)  
gentleman will have more questions,

**[02:30:40.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003421)  
but let me just say this.

**[02:30:42.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003422)  
I always like ito sinasabi.

**[02:30:44.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003423)  
Ang pangalan ho ng Departamento

**[02:30:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003424)  
namin, Social Welfare and

**[02:30:47.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003425)  
Development. Minsan lang nga,

**[02:30:49.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003426)  
tama siya, natutuon kami sa social

**[02:30:51.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003427)  
welfare, nakakalimutan yung development.

**[02:30:53.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003428)  
Pero we'd like to think

**[02:30:55.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003429)  
that we're gradually putting more thrust in the

**[02:30:57.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003430)  
development side with hopefully

**[02:30:59.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003431)  
paliitin rin ang paliitin

**[02:31:01.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003432)  
over the years, etong red

**[02:31:03.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003433)  
part ng inyong

**[02:31:04.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003434)  
presentation.

**[02:31:07.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003435)  
While we're managing the blue part,

**[02:31:09.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003436)  
which I believe, malayo lang, hindi ko makita.

**[02:31:11.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003437)  
While managing the blue part, which is the

**[02:31:13.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003438)  
4Ps, na lumiliit na siya,

**[02:31:16.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003439)  
as they graduate,

**[02:31:18.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003440)  
kailangan nila ng social crutches,

**[02:31:19.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003441)  
social protection, which is AICS.

**[02:31:22.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003442)  
Then hopefully, the day

**[02:31:23.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003443)  
will come na talagang malayang malaya na sila,

**[02:31:25.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003444)  
malayong malayo na sila sa

**[02:31:27.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003445)  
danger zone, at mapaliit rin.

**[02:31:29.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003446)  
Sabihin natin yung AICS.

**[02:31:30.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003447)  
Thank you for that. Pero,

**[02:31:33.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003448)  
sabi nyo, okay, dahil

**[02:31:36.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003449)  
lumiliit yung

**[02:31:38.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003450)  
4Ps, pero

**[02:31:40.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003451)  
they graduate to near poor,

**[02:31:42.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003452)  
kaya lumalaki yung AICS.

**[02:31:44.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003453)  
However, napansin din natin

**[02:31:46.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003454)  
ang isang trend, yung

**[02:31:48.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003455)  
SLP, Sustainable Live Year Program.

**[02:31:50.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003456)  
Supposedly, ito yung parang

**[02:31:52.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003457)  
halfway program

**[02:31:54.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003458)  
sa mga gagraduate,

**[02:31:56.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003459)  
diba? Pero ang nangyari din

**[02:31:58.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003460)  
ay lumiliit.

**[02:32:00.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003461)  
45%,

**[02:32:01.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003462)  
over the decade,

**[02:32:04.660] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003463)  
from around almost

**[02:32:06.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003464)  
10 billion, naging halos 5,

**[02:32:09.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003465)  
less than 5 billion, or

**[02:32:10.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003466)  
6 billion ang budget.

**[02:32:12.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003467)  
How can you explain that?

**[02:32:14.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003468)  
Mr. Chairman, kami hindi ko kami nagkukulang

**[02:32:16.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003469)  
na laging dumulog, nandumulog, nandumulog

**[02:32:18.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003470)  
para dagdagan yung SLP budget.

**[02:32:20.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003471)  
Because, as I mentioned,

**[02:32:22.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003472)  
it's something that we like. Kasi nakakakita kami

**[02:32:24.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003473)  
ng success stories. Ito yung crutch

**[02:32:26.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003474)  
program. Tama kayo. Ito yung saklay,

**[02:32:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003475)  
palabas, lalo. So, sana,

**[02:32:30.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003476)  
dagdagan ho talaga yan. Nagsimula na

**[02:32:32.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003477)  
yung maliit. When I joined the department, it was at

**[02:32:34.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003478)  
around 7 billion or 6 billion.

**[02:32:37.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003479)  
Ang growth lang niya, minsan 1

**[02:32:38.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003480)  
billion, minsan atras ng 500 million.

**[02:32:40.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003481)  
We're really pleading na lakihan

**[02:32:42.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003482)  
ho yan. Because it's a social

**[02:32:44.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003483)  
development program that we're very

**[02:32:46.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003484)  
proud of, na sana tignan ng tignan.

**[02:32:49.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003485)  
So, ang sinasabi ni

**[02:32:50.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003486)  
SEC, kongreso raw

**[02:32:52.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003487)  
nagtatanggal o nagbabawas

**[02:32:54.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003488)  
sa SLP. Ay, hindi po. Mr. Chairman,

**[02:32:57.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003489)  
nagsimula na siyang maliit.

**[02:32:58.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003490)  
Hindi na siya pantay, to begin with.

**[02:33:00.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003491)  
So, sana we put equal

**[02:33:02.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003492)  
gas on it. Okay.

**[02:33:04.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003493)  
In other words, as a matter of policy,

**[02:33:06.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003494)  
binabawasan yung SLP. Now,

**[02:33:08.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003495)  
my last statistic that I

**[02:33:10.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003496)  
last set of statistics I want to point

**[02:33:12.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003497)  
out, yung AICS. Nung

**[02:33:14.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003498)  
2016, ito

**[02:33:16.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003499)  
po ay

**[02:33:17.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003500)  
700 million pesos.

**[02:33:21.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003501)  
No?

**[02:33:22.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003502)  
Pero, let

**[02:33:24.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003503)  
me see. Meron tayong data

**[02:33:26.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003504)  
dyan.

**[02:33:28.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003505)  
AICS,

**[02:33:29.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003506)  
700 million.

**[02:33:30.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003507)  
Pero, by

**[02:33:32.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003508)  
2026,

**[02:33:35.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003509)  
it became

**[02:33:36.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003510)  
63.9 billion pesos.

**[02:33:40.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003511)  
That's a

**[02:33:41.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003512)  
9,000

**[02:33:43.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003513)  
percent increase

**[02:33:45.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003514)  
in the program.

**[02:33:48.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003515)  
9,000 percent po.

**[02:33:51.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003516)  
No? So, nakaka

**[02:33:52.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003517)  
gimbal

**[02:33:54.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003518)  
na rate

**[02:33:56.760] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003519)  
of increase. No? Ang concern

**[02:33:58.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003520)  
po natin dito, ay,

**[02:34:00.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003521)  
alam naman natin na

**[02:34:02.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003522)  
yung, sabihin na natin, yung

**[02:34:04.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003523)  
four-piece, yung programa niyong four-piece,

**[02:34:07.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003524)  
you know, based on objective

**[02:34:08.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003525)  
criteria, supposedly, parametric.

**[02:34:11.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003526)  
Diba? Merong poverty statistics,

**[02:34:13.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003527)  
so on and so forth. May listahanan.

**[02:34:15.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003528)  
Pero, alam din naman ng

**[02:34:17.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003529)  
madla ng publiko,

**[02:34:19.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003530)  
kahit minsan hindi ina-admit

**[02:34:20.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003531)  
ito, yung AICS, yun yung patronage.

**[02:34:23.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003532)  
Yun yung batay sa listahan

**[02:34:25.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003533)  
ni

**[02:34:26.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003534)  
congressman, ni senator,

**[02:34:29.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003535)  
etc. So, ang

**[02:34:30.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003536)  
concern po natin, ang trend po

**[02:34:32.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003537)  
na lumalabas

**[02:34:33.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003538)  
habang ay papalaki

**[02:34:36.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003539)  
ang

**[02:34:38.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003540)  
ayuda na nakabatay

**[02:34:40.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003541)  
sa politika. O yung

**[02:34:42.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003542)  
ayuda na ginagamit sa

**[02:34:44.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003543)  
pamumulitika. At

**[02:34:46.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003544)  
hindi lang maliit na paglaki,

**[02:34:48.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003545)  
kundi pambihirang paglaki

**[02:34:50.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003546)  
na nagsimula

**[02:34:51.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003547)  
during the later

**[02:34:54.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003548)  
years of the Duterte administration

**[02:34:56.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003549)  
at lalo talagang

**[02:34:58.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003550)  
lumobo

**[02:35:00.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003551)  
ng gusto sa ilalim ng kasalukuyang

**[02:35:02.640] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003552)  
administrasyon. So, yun din po

**[02:35:04.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003553)  
ang concern natin. Una,

**[02:35:07.740] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003554)  
ang emphasis ay

**[02:35:08.540] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003555)  
ng so-called poverty alleviation

**[02:35:11.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003556)  
nakabatay sa ayuda.

**[02:35:14.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003557)  
Hindi sa pag-develop

**[02:35:16.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003558)  
ng

**[02:35:17.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003559)  
trabaho o

**[02:35:19.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003560)  
kabuhayan.

**[02:35:22.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003561)  
Concretely, binawasan ng malaki yung

**[02:35:24.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003562)  
sustainable livelihood program. Tapos ngayon,

**[02:35:26.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003563)  
papalaki yung

**[02:35:27.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003564)  
ayuda na nakabatay sa patronage,

**[02:35:30.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003565)  
medyayong mga kitay-kiti ka

**[02:35:30.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003566)  
o tinatawag na pork barrel.

**[02:35:35.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003567)  
Meron po bang

**[02:35:36.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003568)  
pagtingin?

**[02:35:38.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003569)  
Actually, naka-address ito as much

**[02:35:40.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003570)  
sa Kongreso at sa

**[02:35:42.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003571)  
DSWD.

**[02:35:44.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003572)  
Mr. Chairman, again, much appreciated yung mga

**[02:35:46.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003573)  
punto na pinapoint out.

**[02:35:49.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003574)  
Meron lang ho kaming gustong ilatag

**[02:35:50.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003575)  
na mga post-2016

**[02:35:52.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003576)  
na mga

**[02:35:54.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003577)  
events, mga supervening events.

**[02:35:57.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003578)  
COVID happened

**[02:35:58.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003579)  
right at the tail end of

**[02:36:00.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003580)  
the Duterte administration and

**[02:36:02.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003581)  
all our poverty consultants

**[02:36:04.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003582)  
were telling us na it took,

**[02:36:06.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003583)  
it's still

**[02:36:07.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003584)  
happening up to now na yung

**[02:36:09.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003585)  
mga na-setback, unti-unti pa rin

**[02:36:12.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003586)  
lang lumalabas doon sa butas

**[02:36:14.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003587)  
na nahulog sila.

**[02:36:16.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003588)  
Ibig sabihin, yung epekto ng COVID

**[02:36:18.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003589)  
nararamdaman pa rin ho namin all the way

**[02:36:20.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003590)  
in fact to 2023, 2024

**[02:36:22.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003591)  
nung sumama ako sa departamento.

**[02:36:24.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003592)  
That's why if you can recall, hindi ho lahat

**[02:36:26.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003593)  
linabas natin sa four piece kasi

**[02:36:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003594)  
nga madi-disenfranchise yun.

**[02:36:30.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003595)  
Napaka maraming mahirap na tao.

**[02:36:31.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003596)  
Then came the more

**[02:36:33.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003597)  
shocks, itong pinagdaraanan natin

**[02:36:35.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003598)  
inflationary shock, and at the same

**[02:36:38.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003599)  
time, post, in this

**[02:36:40.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003600)  
administration, napaka

**[02:36:41.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003601)  
larami pong climate-induced

**[02:36:43.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003602)  
natural disasters, at natural

**[02:36:46.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003603)  
disasters like volcano eruptions.

**[02:36:48.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003604)  
In my time in the department alone, I've

**[02:36:49.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003605)  
seen three volcanoes,

**[02:36:51.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003606)  
multiple earthquakes, at katakot-takot

**[02:36:53.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003607)  
na volume ng ulan. And these

**[02:36:55.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003608)  
are yung mga shocks na hindi inaasahan.

**[02:36:58.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003609)  
Kaya nga ho, I have a presentation

**[02:37:00.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003610)  
later that will show na

**[02:37:01.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003611)  
minsan nag-o-augment pa dahil

**[02:37:03.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003612)  
kulang na kulang yung

**[02:37:05.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003613)  
ginagamit kasi rin namin sa disaster

**[02:37:08.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003614)  
response. Para makatulong

**[02:37:10.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003615)  
na huwag mahulog yung mga pamilya

**[02:37:11.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003616)  
pabalik ng kahirapan, or

**[02:37:13.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003617)  
manatili sila sa state nila.

**[02:37:16.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003618)  
There are unforeseen circumstances

**[02:37:17.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003619)  
that made this, the

**[02:37:20.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003620)  
red line na tinatawag yun, AX na block,

**[02:37:22.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003621)  
grow. Now, Mr. Chairman,

**[02:37:24.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003622)  
I would also want to point out na

**[02:37:26.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003623)  
yung AX naman,

**[02:37:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003624)  
may proseso siyang pinagdaraanan.

**[02:37:30.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003625)  
Anybody can refer,

**[02:37:32.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003626)  
pero dadaan pa rin ho yan sa

**[02:37:34.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003627)  
masusing pagsusuri at pag-aaral

**[02:37:36.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003628)  
ng ating mga social workers. We still say no.

**[02:37:38.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003629)  
Despite the different referrals from

**[02:37:40.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003630)  
different partners, from the private sector

**[02:37:42.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003631)  
or the public sector, the vetting

**[02:37:44.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003632)  
process is there. Yun ho yung safety

**[02:37:46.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003633)  
net namin doon. And lastly,

**[02:37:48.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003634)  
Mr. Chairman, I'm not PSA and I'm

**[02:37:50.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003635)  
not def-dev, but kaapon lang kasi very

**[02:37:52.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003636)  
fresh yung briefing namin.

**[02:37:54.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003637)  
Now, tama,

**[02:37:56.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003638)  
lumiip yung kahirapan,

**[02:37:58.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003639)  
driven by two things,

**[02:38:00.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003640)  
according to PSA. The income

**[02:38:02.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003641)  
per family increased

**[02:38:04.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003642)  
and at the same time,

**[02:38:06.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003643)  
the inflation went down.

**[02:38:08.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003644)  
So, there was a convolution of two events

**[02:38:10.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003645)  
na nakatulong sa pag-angat

**[02:38:12.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003646)  
ng numero and

**[02:38:13.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003647)  
the reasons they gave us

**[02:38:16.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003648)  
for the increase in household income

**[02:38:18.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003649)  
in all deciles, not just

**[02:38:20.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003650)  
the poor.

**[02:38:22.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003651)  
Increase in wages,

**[02:38:24.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003652)  
entrepreneurship,

**[02:38:26.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003653)  
transfers from international

**[02:38:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003654)  
sources, ito yung mga remittances,

**[02:38:31.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003655)  
at pensions.

**[02:38:33.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003656)  
Of the five main reasons,

**[02:38:35.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003657)  
four are not cash transfers

**[02:38:37.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003658)  
that are domestic.

**[02:38:38.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003659)  
So, ibig sabihin, hindi lang DSWD

**[02:38:40.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003660)  
na programa ang nag-angat,

**[02:38:43.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003661)  
kung hindi, pati na rin yung mga ibang

**[02:38:44.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003662)  
programa ng iba't-ibang mga departamento.

**[02:38:47.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003663)  
Pero again, there's a caution

**[02:38:48.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003664)  
na may nangyayaring energy emergency

**[02:38:50.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003665)  
and it might affect again the numbers.

**[02:38:56.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003666)  
Mr. Chair, alam kong

**[02:38:56.780] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003667)  
tapos ng oras,

**[02:38:58.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003668)  
inood ko lang na,

**[02:39:00.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003669)  
yung sinight na statistics ni SEC

**[02:39:02.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003670)  
sa kanilang meeting, bumaba pa yung

**[02:39:04.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003671)  
inflation. Mukhang hindi pa updated dyan

**[02:39:06.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003672)  
kasi tumaba na uli ang inflation.

**[02:39:08.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003673)  
2026, Mr. Chairman.

**[02:39:10.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003674)  
So, ibang-iba ang sitwasyon ngayon,

**[02:39:12.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003675)  
2026. And also, nandito si

**[02:39:14.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003676)  
Rep. Sara, nire-raise niya palagi ito,

**[02:39:17.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003677)  
contested yung

**[02:39:18.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003678)  
poverty threshold

**[02:39:21.040] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003679)  
figures ng

**[02:39:22.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003680)  
DepDev. Yung kanilang

**[02:39:24.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003681)  
64 pesos a day na food

**[02:39:26.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003682)  
threshold na walang

**[02:39:28.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003683)  
Pilipinong tumatanggap dito.

**[02:39:30.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003684)  
Okay, anyway, yun lang po,

**[02:39:32.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003685)  
Mr. Chair, round 2 na lang po tayo. Thank you.

**[02:39:34.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-003686)  
Thank you, sir.

**[02:39:35.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003687)  
If I can just respond to that, we agree na yung threshold

**[02:39:38.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003688)  
has to be visited ahead of time.

**[02:39:40.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003689)  
Binanggit naman yan sa amin kahapon ng PSA

**[02:39:42.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003690)  
na it might be revisited

**[02:39:44.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003691)  
at nasa proseso na sila

**[02:39:46.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003692)  
ng pag-aaral ng threshold.

**[02:39:48.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003693)  
Naniniwala rin sila na dapat revisitahin na

**[02:39:50.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003694)  
lalong-lalo na nag-iba na ang mundo.

**[02:39:52.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003695)  
So, we agree. Pero I hope you understand,

**[02:39:54.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003696)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:39:55.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003697)  
kami, we operate with data that's given to us.

**[02:39:58.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003698)  
And given that the data managers are

**[02:40:00.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003699)  
telling us this, we have to calibrate our actions

**[02:40:02.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003700)  
based on what they give us. But,

**[02:40:04.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003701)  
rest assured, nagtatanong ho kami.

**[02:40:06.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003702)  
We also pose the pragmatic questions

**[02:40:08.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003703)  
rather than just accept the data

**[02:40:10.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003704)  
that they give us.

**[02:40:16.270] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003705)  
Thank you. Thank you, Congressman Tinio.

**[02:40:20.990] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003706)  
May we now recognize

**[02:40:22.410] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003707)  
Kong Chideng Alvarez.

**[02:40:28.050] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003708)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[02:40:30.850] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003709)  
If the, Mr. Chair, if the goal

**[02:40:32.450] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003710)  
of the national government is to

**[02:40:34.230] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003711)  
be felt or its presence felt

**[02:40:36.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003712)  
on the ground, DSWD

**[02:40:38.670] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003713)  
has done just that and continues

**[02:40:40.350] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003714)  
to do that, especially

**[02:40:42.230] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003715)  
for us in Negros Island region.

**[02:40:44.830] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003716)  
It really has remained true

**[02:40:46.550] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003717)  
to its mandate, especially

**[02:40:48.610] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003718)  
in times

**[02:40:50.350] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003719)  
not only during typhoons, but

**[02:40:52.210] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003720)  
specifically in Negros, such as

**[02:40:54.070] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003721)  
the continuing situation of

**[02:40:56.590] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003722)  
Mount Canlaon, its

**[02:40:58.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003723)  
eruption. At the same time,

**[02:41:00.470] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003724)  
quite recently, of course,

**[02:41:02.150] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003725)  
the infestation of RSSI

**[02:41:04.070] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003726)  
on our sugarcane farmers.

**[02:41:06.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003727)  
So, I'd like to thank the

**[02:41:08.110] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003728)  
department headed by Secretary Rex.

**[02:41:10.310] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003729)  
Thank you very much. And at the

**[02:41:12.170] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003730)  
same time, I'd like to thank Central

**[02:41:14.130] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003731)  
Office for its full support

**[02:41:15.750] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003732)  
to the full implementation of

**[02:41:18.190] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003733)  
the Negros Island region law,

**[02:41:20.130] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003734)  
which is, of course, crafted

**[02:41:21.730] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003735)  
by the last Congress, Republic Act

**[02:41:24.010] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003736)  
12,000. It's headed by

**[02:41:26.390] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003737)  
Regional Director

**[02:41:28.170] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003738)  
Arwin Razo. So, thank you very much,

**[02:41:30.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003739)  
Central Office, for its full support.

**[02:41:32.550] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003740)  
I've heard that quite recently

**[02:41:34.110] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003741)  
within this year, two

**[02:41:36.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003742)  
satellite offices were opened

**[02:41:37.930] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003743)  
in Negros Occidental,

**[02:41:40.190] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003744)  
because I believe the

**[02:41:42.570] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003745)  
regional office is in Dumaguete

**[02:41:44.150] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003746)  
City. So, thank you very much.

**[02:41:46.150] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003747)  
But, of course, I'd like to take

**[02:41:48.110] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003748)  
this opportunity, Mr. Chair, kasi

**[02:41:49.950] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003749)  
palagi nga natin naririnig na

**[02:41:51.950] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003750)  
DSWD is puros

**[02:41:54.050] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003751)  
ayuda lang.

**[02:41:56.010] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003752)  
Of course, we forgot,

**[02:41:58.050] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003753)  
actually, I'd like to quote the Secretary when he

**[02:42:00.150] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003754)  
said na, meron naman po ng development.

**[02:42:02.830] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003755)  
And those developmental

**[02:42:04.070] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003756)  
programs are one of my favorites,

**[02:42:06.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003757)  
such as, of course,

**[02:42:07.970] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003758)  
the Lawa at Binhi program.

**[02:42:10.270] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003759)  
Hindi pa ata na-highlight ni Secretary

**[02:42:12.090] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003760)  
during his sponsorship speech.

**[02:42:14.710] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003761)  
And at the same time,

**[02:42:16.230] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003762)  
of course,

**[02:42:17.710] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003763)  
the SLP.

**[02:42:20.530] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003764)  
Hindi na po ata

**[02:42:21.870] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003765)  
strange to the DSWD

**[02:42:24.290] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003766)  
family na I am one of the early

**[02:42:26.310] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003767)  
supporters of SLP program.

**[02:42:29.190] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003768)  
But, I'd

**[02:42:30.390] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003769)  
like to appreciate also the

**[02:42:32.350] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003770)  
support of my fellow colleagues

**[02:42:34.390] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003771)  
dahil nagpo-push sila ng

**[02:42:36.190] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003772)  
increase of the SLP program.

**[02:42:38.170] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003773)  
But, I'd like to know as well from the good

**[02:42:40.170] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003774)  
Secretary, what are the constraints

**[02:42:42.050] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003775)  
on the implementation of

**[02:42:44.190] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003776)  
SLP? And at the same time,

**[02:42:46.730] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003777)  
baka po possible din,

**[02:42:48.530] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003778)  
aside from increasing the funding

**[02:42:50.210] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003779)  
for SLP, is also to increase the

**[02:42:52.170] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003780)  
funding for its additional

**[02:42:54.390] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003781)  
personnel for their salaries.

**[02:42:56.230] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003782)  
At the same time, yung

**[02:42:57.850] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003783)  
cost for administration to

**[02:42:59.650] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003784)  
implement SLP.

**[02:43:02.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003785)  
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to thank the good

**[02:43:04.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003786)  
Congresswoman who has been an

**[02:43:05.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003787)  
staunch champion of

**[02:43:07.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003788)  
SLP, from crabs to

**[02:43:09.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003789)  
cookies to everything in the middle.

**[02:43:12.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003790)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:43:13.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003791)  
first things first, wala hong

**[02:43:15.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003792)  
SLP isn't an institutionalized

**[02:43:17.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003793)  
program. It's

**[02:43:19.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003794)  
a line item without legislation

**[02:43:21.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003795)  
to it. In fact, the legislation

**[02:43:23.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003796)  
has moved out of the

**[02:43:25.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003797)  
committee level, the Social Services Committee.

**[02:43:28.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003798)  
It's now in the appropriations. I think

**[02:43:29.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003799)  
that will help cure a lot

**[02:43:31.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003800)  
of the problems. Kasi

**[02:43:33.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003801)  
that being said, wala rin

**[02:43:35.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003802)  
plantilya si SLP,

**[02:43:37.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003803)  
di ba? Minimal.

**[02:43:41.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003804)  
Yeah, it's a minimal plantily, as you know.

**[02:43:44.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003805)  
Maraming nga kayong nakokomment

**[02:43:45.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003806)  
na they're overworked on their staff.

**[02:43:48.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003807)  
So, yun lang, maybe the first

**[02:43:49.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003808)  
step is to institutionalize this

**[02:43:51.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003809)  
social development program, the same way

**[02:43:53.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003810)  
we look at the other programs of the SWD.

**[02:43:56.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003811)  
If the AICS law is

**[02:43:57.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003812)  
near completion, sana

**[02:43:59.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003813)  
the SLP law goes to

**[02:44:01.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003814)  
the same fruition in this Congress.

**[02:44:04.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003815)  
Number two, obviously,

**[02:44:05.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003816)  
funding constraint. As

**[02:44:07.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003817)  
pointed out by Congressman Tino, maraming

**[02:44:09.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003818)  
gumagraduate ng four-piece

**[02:44:11.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003819)  
at ang crutch program sana nila will

**[02:44:13.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003820)  
be education or entrepreneurship.

**[02:44:16.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003821)  
But the entrepreneurship side, parang

**[02:44:17.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003822)  
ang bigat nung binibit-bit niya with

**[02:44:19.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003823)  
only 6 billion in its line item.

**[02:44:22.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003824)  
So, that is something to

**[02:44:23.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003825)  
look into. And

**[02:44:25.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003826)  
last but not the least,

**[02:44:28.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003827)  
the

**[02:44:29.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003828)  
information

**[02:44:31.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003829)  
campaign ng ano yung

**[02:44:33.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003830)  
SLP. I think the SWD, the

**[02:44:35.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003831)  
public knows us more for AICS

**[02:44:37.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003832)  
rather than SLP. Pero

**[02:44:39.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003833)  
I'm glad nga na unti-unti in this

**[02:44:41.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003834)  
hearing, a lot of the legislators

**[02:44:44.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003835)  
are finding the value in it. But the general

**[02:44:46.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003836)  
public has to understand that there's more to us

**[02:44:48.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003837)  
than social welfare.

**[02:44:50.570] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003838)  
So, is it safe to say, Mr.

**[02:44:52.110] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003839)  
Chair, that the good secretary

**[02:44:53.470] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003840)  
supports the

**[02:44:55.170] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003841)  
institutionalization of SLP as

**[02:44:58.010] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003842)  
a law?

**[02:44:58.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003842-split-2)  
A hundred and one percent, Mr. Chair.

**[02:45:00.540] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003843)  
Versus AICS?

**[02:45:02.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003843-split-2)  
Both.

**[02:45:03.000] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003843-split-3)  
So, speaking about AICS, Mr. Chair, what will be the effect

**[02:45:10.720] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003844)  
Mr. Chair, if we forego or reduce the budget for the protective services for individuals and families, Mr. Chair?

**[02:45:18.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003845)  
mr chairman displacement we have a slide that i've been wanting to show since this morning

**[02:45:24.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003846)  
If we can pull it out.

**[02:45:26.400] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003846-split-2)  
Because, Mr. Chair, I'd like to add so that Secretary can also include it in

**[02:45:33.940] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003847)  
his explanation, because unlike AICS, there are several studies which were pointed out recently,

**[02:45:41.660] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003848)  
earlier. There is a World Bank study, there is PIDS, but can you also cite if there is also

**[02:45:47.800] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003849)  
a similar study as to the effect of AICS? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[02:45:51.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003849-split-2)  
Number one, Mr. Chairman, the fear natin, this is a

**[02:45:54.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003851)  
tabular format. In 2025, the allotment was 44 billion, pero nakita niyo may other releases pa

**[02:46:00.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003852)  
from unprogrammed na 14 billion. We were augmented actually kasi kinapos tayo

**[02:46:06.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003853)  
because, tulad na sinabi ko, there are unforeseen events like volcano eruptions, RSSI, these type of things

**[02:46:14.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003854)  
na ginagamit namin ang 4Ps. Ah, sorry, ang AICS. So in that year alone, we were able to serve 9 million,

**[02:46:20.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003855)  
9.4 million beneficiaries

**[02:46:23.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003856)  
Mga may mukha, mga pangalan 'to. These are actual beneficiaries. In 2026, when Congress heeded our call last year,

**[02:46:30.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003857)  
you gave us 63.4 billion, of which 70% has already been obligated and we're in the process

**[02:46:37.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003858)  
of using that. Ang naging target natin is 8.7 million Filipino individuals who are coming to us day in and day out

**[02:46:46.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003859)  
out in our numerous offices. Now if we stick to the NEP level of 33 billion,

**[02:46:53.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003860)  
ang projected na service gap, meaning yung tatanggihan natin dahil wala na tayong pera,

**[02:46:57.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003861)  
is 4,085,631. And these are not mere numbers; these are real people

**[02:47:04.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003862)  
in your congressional districts, in your cities, na sasabihin namin, pasensya na po, lumiit po kasi yung pondo. So we are pleading

**[02:47:11.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003863)  
with Congress and later on in the Senate na i-restore ho to 63 billion yung pondo. Now I think there's

**[02:47:19.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003864)  
a next slide. May next slide to?

**[02:47:22.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003865)  
Now,

**[02:47:23.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003866)  
I want to point out that when the energy emergency broke out this year,

**[02:47:28.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003867)  
that nobody saw, this is also the funding allocation for the uplift assistance.

**[02:47:34.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003868)  
The close to 2 million drivers nationwide,

**[02:47:38.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003869)  
of the jeep, tricycle, TNVS, service delivery,

**[02:47:43.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003870)  
all of those were received by 5,000 because we used the AICS.

**[02:47:47.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003871)  
The AICS sort of serves as a standby fund for unforeseen events.

**[02:47:51.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003872)  
If that wasn't there, if you didn't raise it to 66 billion, 63 billion last year,

**[02:47:58.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003873)  
we would have been finished by the summer and we wouldn't have reached our allocation

**[02:48:02.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003874)  
for the crises that we are facing now.

**[02:48:07.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003875)  
So again, let me just put on record that we are asking Congress,

**[02:48:12.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003876)  
as well as the Senate later on,

**[02:48:14.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003877)  
to reinstate the budget of AICS to its current levels of 63.4 billion pesos.

**[02:48:20.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003878)  
Thank you.

**[02:48:24.100] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003879)  
Mr. Chair, so to end, thank you very much once again to DSWD.

**[02:48:29.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003880)  
For Congresswoman or more, 63 billion or more.

**[02:48:33.260] Deputy Speaker Mercedes K. Alvarez** (asr-003881)  
We fully support that, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

**[02:48:38.350] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003882)  
Thank you, Kong Chia-Ding. Thank you, Secretary.

**[02:48:47.460] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-003883)  
We now recognize Representative Bong Soon-Tai.

**[02:48:53.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003884)  
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

**[02:48:56.700] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003885)  
Secretary, magandang tanghali po.

**[02:49:00.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003886)  
Siyempre sa, to the DSWD family.

**[02:49:04.440] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003887)  
Well, una sa lahat.

**[02:49:07.900] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003888)  
Well, as we all know,

**[02:49:10.500] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003889)  
disaster has struck our country in numerous times.

**[02:49:13.320] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003890)  
Madaming, well, nabanggit ni Sec pag erap ng bulkan.

**[02:49:19.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003891)  
Merong mga sunog na nagganap, merong mga typhoon, which we were hit.

**[02:49:26.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003892)  
So kaya ako lang nabanggit to, una, nais kong magpasalamat sa DSWD, as we all know.

**[02:49:32.200] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003893)  
Government should be there when it's needed.

**[02:49:36.890] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003894)  
On time and available at yung pagtulong.

**[02:49:40.950] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003895)  
Pagdating dun sa disaster, masasabi ko na talagang on time.

**[02:49:45.350] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003896)  
Nasaksihan ko yan nung nagkabagyo sa aking distrito.

**[02:49:50.230] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003897)  
Ready naman yung food boxes ng DSWD.

**[02:49:54.710] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003898)  
It was readily available.

**[02:49:56.270] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003899)  
Andon yung mga sleeping kits, tsaka yung ready to eat.

**[02:50:03.510] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003900)  
Na pagkain, which was readily available.

**[02:50:08.450] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003901)  
I believe it was like that in the whole of Metro Manila

**[02:50:12.050] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003902)  
because andito yung warehouses ng DSWD.

**[02:50:17.110] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003903)  
Ang tanong ko lang, sa probinsya po kaya, I believe that would be a problem.

**[02:50:21.410] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003904)  
Yung logistics and warehouse, paano yung response ng DSWD sa mga ibang lugar naman?

**[02:50:28.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003905)  
Na hindi readily accessible itong mga warehouse at saka yung mga trucking requirements.

**[02:50:33.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003906)  
Mr. Chairman, that's a very good question.

**[02:50:36.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003907)  
Under this administration, binaguhu talaga yung paradigm on disaster response.

**[02:50:40.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003908)  
Hindi tayo naghahanda o nag-repack pag nandyan na yung sakuna.

**[02:50:44.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003909)  
Rather, for the first time in our country's history, we now operate close to 1,040 warehouses nationwide.

**[02:50:54.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003910)  
And these are different sizes warehouse.

**[02:50:56.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003911)  
Merong nasa syudad that we call hubs.

**[02:50:58.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003912)  
Merong kami mid-size hubs rin na nasa mga secondary cities.

**[02:51:01.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003913)  
And we have last mile warehouses.

**[02:51:03.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003914)  
As far as northern Palawan, in fact, alam niyo ni Congresswoman Salvame, or the GIDA areas.

**[02:51:10.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003915)  
And the second paradigm change is, tulad na sinabi ko, 365 days a year, we repack nationwide.

**[02:51:15.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003916)  
We have two repacking centers.

**[02:51:17.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003917)  
We're building the third one now in Mindanao because of Congress's approval of a multi-year allocation for it.

**[02:51:22.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003918)  
So meaning, the goods are being drawn from bigger packaging centers in the three island groups.

**[02:51:28.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003919)  
So meaning, naka-omnipresent, naka-palat na huyan.

**[02:51:31.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003920)  
Nung sumali kami sa departamento nung 2022, before my time, Secretary Erwin was already building on it.

**[02:51:39.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003921)  
After six months, we carried on his mission.

**[02:51:41.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003922)  
In fact, nung kaming dalawa, ang dinatan natin dyan na national stockpile ng food packs ay nasa mga 200,000 lang.

**[02:51:49.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003923)  
At the height, before this sunod-sunod na bagyo, we ran 5.2 million family food packs nationwide.

**[02:51:56.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003924)  
Not just in Metro Manila, but all over the country.

**[02:51:59.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003925)  
So ganyan karami yung national stockpile.

**[02:52:01.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003926)  
And for this month alone, we've already released 3.6 million food packs nationwide.

**[02:52:08.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003927)  
Kasi tulad nyo na sabi ko, may stockpile tayo.

**[02:52:11.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003928)  
Yet the remaining stockpile now still stands at 3.2.

**[02:52:14.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003929)  
Meaning, we're running our factories beyond its capacity na 22,000.

**[02:52:19.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003930)  
We're reproducing, responding, and stockpiling all at the same time.

**[02:52:23.170] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003931)  
Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.

**[02:52:25.830] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003932)  
Well, kagaya ng sinabi ko, pagdating dyan talagang nararamdaman.

**[02:52:31.330] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003933)  
Kikita.

**[02:52:32.250] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003934)  
Now, the protective social welfare budget for the SWD was decreased from 131.6 billion in 2026.

**[02:52:41.590] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003935)  
Bumaba ito to 101.4 billion.

**[02:52:47.650] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003936)  
What component program was affected by this?

**[02:52:51.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003937)  
Mr. Chairman, the biggest is the assistance to individuals in crisis situation.

**[02:52:54.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003938)  
33 billion yung nawala ho doon.

**[02:52:57.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003939)  
30 billion.

**[02:53:01.330] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003940)  
Okay, 30 billion yung nawala.

**[02:53:03.350] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003941)  
Pero actually, nadagdag yan.

**[02:53:04.690] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003942)  
Kasi if you remember, I think it was noong 2025, we dinifund natin yung ACAP.

**[02:53:12.050] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003943)  
Pero inabsorbed ng AICS yung beneficiary ng ACAP.

**[02:53:17.150] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003944)  
But have we fixed the problems noong pag-absorb ng AICS sa ACAP program?

**[02:53:28.210] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003945)  
Dahil there were some co-affirming.

**[02:53:30.250] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003946)  
They identified.

**[02:53:31.330] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003947)  
They identified na yung aid distribution, nagkakaroon tayo ng duplication.

**[02:53:39.110] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003948)  
May mga beneficiaries, nakakuha na ng AICS, nakatanggap pa ulit ng ACAP.

**[02:53:44.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003949)  
Mr. Chairman, that has been addressed.

**[02:53:46.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003950)  
We've already explained that fully to COA.

**[02:53:49.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003951)  
And the fiscal targets naman, if you're going to talk about the fiscal targets,

**[02:53:54.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003952)  
we've met the fiscal targets noong kinonsolidate lahat sa AICS for last year.

**[02:53:57.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003953)  
As you pointed out, as the good congressman pointed out,

**[02:54:00.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003954)  
na inaugment yung AICS.

**[02:54:02.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003955)  
So yun yung pinakamalaki na nawala this year.

**[02:54:04.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003956)  
30 billion.

**[02:54:06.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003957)  
Yung inintroduce na amendment ng congress, yun yung nawala rin.

**[02:54:12.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003958)  
Okay, but what controls have we now placed?

**[02:54:15.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003959)  
Paano nagiging distribution ngayon natin ng AICS?

**[02:54:19.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003960)  
So per region, I think you posted it, but on a per district level, sino yung nagiging beneficiary?

**[02:54:25.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003961)  
Who gets the biggest chunk of this AICS?

**[02:54:28.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003962)  
How do we distribute?

**[02:54:29.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003963)  
Or allocate this fund?

**[02:54:31.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003964)  
Mr. Chairman, it's always followed the same principle.

**[02:54:34.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003965)  
It's on a need base and assessed by the social worker.

**[02:54:36.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003966)  
We get referrals every day from everywhere.

**[02:54:39.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003967)  
And it's really up to the frontline social services, the social workers,

**[02:54:43.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003968)  
to see if we were to say yes or no to a particular request.

**[02:54:47.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003969)  
So would it be safe to say that ngayon mas regulated na natin, hindi na po magagaya?

**[02:54:52.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003970)  
For example, as a matter of fact, doon po sa distrito ko, during the previous congress,

**[02:54:57.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003971)  
ang AICS pinang babayad po sa, pinang pe-payout yan sa mga nagpupunta doon sa mga pre-election rally, campaign.

**[02:55:06.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003972)  
In fact, naging leaflets pa nga po yan eh. Pre-filled up na yung form.

**[02:55:13.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003973)  
Nakalagay na lang yung pangalan ng beneficiary at yung date. Tapos binabahay-bahay.

**[02:55:18.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003974)  
So have we corrected that? Dahil yung AICS is a stopgap for individuals na talagang kailangan ng tulong.

**[02:55:25.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003975)  
And it should not be used that way. Dahil kawawa naman yung mga taong kailangan talagang matulungan na nangangailangan ng tulong.

**[02:55:35.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003976)  
Mr. Chairman, we totally agree. And we have tightened the implementing guidelines.

**[02:55:40.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003977)  
May mga anti-EPAL, may mga CLARO na you can't use it for your own interest or your political gains.

**[02:55:46.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003978)  
It's now enshrined both in the GAAA and at the same time our guidelines.

**[02:55:51.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003979)  
And we take these things seriously. Kakasuhan yung mga empleyado.

**[02:55:54.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003980)  
Meron rin hong ganung provision sa loob ng aming administrative codes in the department.

**[02:55:59.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003981)  
Okay. Mr. Chairsec, as pinakita kanina ni Congressman Tino yung graph,

**[02:56:08.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003982)  
and I was listening to your answer and very happy to hear that ngayon ang ginagawa natin.

**[02:56:15.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003983)  
Because yung support for SLTs and developmental programs talagang napaka-importante.

**[02:56:22.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003984)  
Ang ayaw natin is masanay talaga yung mga tao sa dole-outs.

**[02:56:25.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003985)  
We want the aid coming from the government to really affect and help the families.

**[02:56:34.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003986)  
While I understand talagang hindi naman pwedeng tanggalin because there are some immediate and emergency needs and assistance na kailangan ibigay at makuha ng mga tao.

**[02:56:45.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003987)  
But slowly, we also have to integrate. Ngayon nawala na yung ACAP.

**[02:56:51.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003988)  
Sinama natin sa IX yung 4Ps. I'm talking about yung 4Ps. Sana mas mapalakas natin yung 4Ps.

**[02:56:57.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003989)  
Dahil yung 4Ps, ang beneficiaryo ng mga 4Ps, kailangan sumunod ka sa RA 11310.

**[02:57:06.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003990)  
There are strict guidelines, components to this, regulations that has to be followed.

**[02:57:12.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003991)  
And makikita mo may result because it's not really a dole-out for them.

**[02:57:17.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003992)  
It encourages and incentivizes families who are benefitting.

**[02:57:21.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003993)  
So sana ito mapalaki. As correctly pointed out, yung ating sustainable livelihood program, lumeit yung budget.

**[02:57:29.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003994)  
Pero gusto nga natin palakasin yung mga ganitong programa eh.

**[02:57:33.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003995)  
So maybe we should put some of the, kung maglalagay ang Congress ng budget, baka dapat dito ilagay instead of additional IX na naman.

**[02:57:45.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003996)  
Dahil ang gusto natin, slowly.

**[02:57:49.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003997)  
I think it was pointed out.

**[02:57:52.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003998)  
Nung nagsimula yung IX program nung panahon ng pandemia, because during the lockout, yung mga extreme lockdowns natin, talaga kahit yung mga gusto magtrabaho, hindi makapagtrabaho.

**[02:58:06.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003999)  
After a while, nung natapos yung pandemic, hindi nawala yung programa. In fact, mas lumaki pa ito.

**[02:58:13.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004000)  
But ang ayaw natin sana mangyari is mapag-iwanan yung mga...

**[02:58:17.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004001)  
...yung mga...

**[02:58:19.090] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004002)  
...developmental programs which would really lift the family from poverty or help them in a way.

**[02:58:27.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004003)  
Mr. Chairman, we agree.

**[02:58:29.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004004)  
The points are well taken.

**[02:58:32.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004005)  
Just as a quick rundown.

**[02:58:34.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004006)  
Tama ko kayo that we've been tightening the four-piece, strengthening it.

**[02:58:38.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004007)  
In fact, the World Bank last study said nga that it's contributed directly to 2.2 reduction in poverty.

**[02:58:43.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004008)  
That's a sign that our implementation has been tightened.

**[02:58:47.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004009)  
But I also want to point out na...

**[02:58:48.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004010)  
Ninabanggit ko ito kanina kay Congressman Tino.

**[02:58:51.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004011)  
Yesterday's PSA briefing was quite revealing.

**[02:58:54.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004012)  
Sabi nila na the contributors or the drivers to poverty reduction, one, reduce inflation pre-2026, but also the growth in household income.

**[02:59:05.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004013)  
There were five main reasons to it.

**[02:59:08.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004014)  
One was yung wages tumaas.

**[02:59:14.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004015)  
Pangalawa, entrepreneurship.

**[02:59:16.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004016)  
So nandun na huhulog yung mga SLP natin.

**[02:59:19.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004017)  
Ibig sabi nakakatulong sila.

**[02:59:20.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004018)  
And not just us.

**[02:59:21.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004019)  
From the small business corporation of DTI, the whole government of approach na DAR, DA, has countryside livelihood.

**[02:59:27.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004020)  
Lahat yun na pagsasama-sama to entrepreneurship output.

**[02:59:31.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004021)  
Third lamang, or isa sa pang lima, yung conditional cash transfer na local, which is four-piece.

**[02:59:37.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004022)  
So meaning, and other transfers, meaning the targeting is working.

**[02:59:41.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004023)  
Nakakontribute siya pero hindi natin nga gusto yun.

**[02:59:44.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004024)  
And the other two is foreign remittances and pension.

**[02:59:48.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004025)  
So kung lima yan, sabay ho, nandun yung entrepreneurship and nandun yung cash transfer.

**[02:59:54.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004026)  
And like I agree with you, na dapat we have to wean off the cash transfer gradually while strengthening entrepreneurship.

**[03:00:01.420] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004027)  
Okay. And lastly, yung tanong ko lang sa 4Peace. Sir, ilan yung current beneficiary natin ng 4Peace? Ilan yung bagong enrolled sa 4Peace programs? At ilan naman yung mga graduate na sa 4Peace programs?

**[03:00:16.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004028)  
For the record, nung nagsimula ho ang Marcos administration, 4.4 million ho yan. Laging 4.4. So nagtanong ho, since 2014. So since 2014 till 2022, ang napag-graduate lamang po ay 50,000.

**[03:00:32.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004029)  
We're not saying na walang umangatang buhay doon, but they weren't taking the exit mechanism seriously. But under the Marcos Jr. administration, simula ni Sen. Erwin, ngayon naman tinuloy namin, talagang pinag-igtingin natin yung case management.

**[03:00:46.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004030)  
Para yung mga dapat lumabas, lumalabas na. So from 2022 till now, 1.7 million families have already exited. Now, ang natinahong sa database natin, from minus that number, is at around 3 million.

**[03:01:00.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004031)  
Of which, if we are to peg it at the current poverty incidence, dapat 3.5 million na lang sila. Hindi nababalik sa 4.4. So that means by October, we're going to enroll an additional 500,000.

**[03:01:13.460] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004032)  
Okay. So, as I mentioned earlier,

**[03:01:16.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004033)  
Sec. Rec., maraming maraming salamat sa agaran at available na pagtulong doon sa mga calamity-stricken areas doon sa aking lugar. Ito, nasaksihan ko. I'm sure it also happens in other areas, but doon sa distrito ko, meron mga sunog na nangyari nito mga nakaraang buwan at syempre yung pagbabaha.

**[03:01:39.940] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004034)  
And I was witness that this, the assistance, kagaya nga ng sleeping care,

**[03:01:46.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004035)  
yung mga food boxes were readily available at walang nahalong politika. Napunta sa tao yung tulong na kinakailangan nila. Maraming salamat.

**[03:01:58.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-004036)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[03:01:59.580] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004036-split-2)  
Thank you, Congressman.

**[03:02:00.460] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004037)  
Thank you. Thank you, Cong. Buktsutay.

**[03:02:04.540] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004038)  
Past 12, may we know the pleasure of the Secretary.

**[03:02:08.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004039)  
We can keep on continuing, Mr. Chairman, if that is the wish of the Committee.

**[03:02:11.580] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004040)  
We'll do it over working lunch or what?

**[03:02:13.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004041)  
Working lunch is fine, Mr. Chairman. I know there are a lot of members who want to...

**[03:02:16.720] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004042)  
So if you need a break, Secretary...

**[03:02:18.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004043)  
I will call a break. We will respect whatever the decision of the Committee is.

**[03:02:22.900] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004044)  
We can have a short break, if you wish.

**[03:02:27.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004045)  
Mr. Chairman, again, if I wish, pwede naman tayo, we can go the distance.

**[03:02:32.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004046)  
Pwede tuloy-tuloy.

**[03:02:33.660] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004047)  
Okay. So we'll do it.

**[03:02:37.100] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004048)  
Thank you.

**[03:02:37.700] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004049)  
So we'll just have a working lunch for today.

**[03:02:44.270] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004050)  
Before we proceed, may I recognize our other members?

**[03:02:48.030] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004051)  
Members who came in.

**[03:02:49.830] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004052)  
Assistant Minority Leader Iris Montes.

**[03:02:58.590] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004053)  
Congressman Mark Inverga.

**[03:03:01.910] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004054)  
We have Cong. Christine Sison Mian.

**[03:03:06.550] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004055)  
We have Deputy Minority Leader Grisel Lagman.

**[03:03:10.790] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004056)  
And Representative Mario Jujuy Salvador.

**[03:03:13.530] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004057)  
So we proceed.

**[03:03:19.410] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004058)  
We now recognize Representative Mila Magsaysay.

**[03:03:26.240] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004059)  
Ma'am Mila.

**[03:03:31.030] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004060)  
Mr. Secretary,

**[03:03:34.330] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004061)  
just for clarification po,

**[03:03:38.070] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004062)  
gusto kong marinig mismo sa inyo,

**[03:03:40.410] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004063)  
saan po ba dapat under ang NCSC?

**[03:03:45.070] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004064)  
Sa Office of the President po ba?

**[03:03:47.110] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004065)  
O sa DSWD?

**[03:03:48.590] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004066)  
Kasi naguguluhan pong mga senior citizens.

**[03:03:50.410] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004067)  
At palaging nagtatanong sa akin kung saan talaga under ang senior citizen, ang NCSC.

**[03:03:58.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004068)  
Mr. Chairman, masalimuot ho yung sagot.

**[03:04:02.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004069)  
I'll try to make it as concise as possible.

**[03:04:04.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004070)  
We will submit to the good committee to be furnished to the good congresswoman

**[03:04:07.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004071)  
yung legal query ng department sa OP.

**[03:04:11.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004072)  
Kung saan sinabi nila, so to speak, na status quo muna po.

**[03:04:15.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004073)  
Meaning we supervise them, but we should not,

**[03:04:18.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004074)  
we should not,

**[03:04:20.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004075)  
we should not directly meddle at this point in time because of the legislation passed.

**[03:04:25.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004076)  
Pero naka-footnote rin doon that the law on optimization has taken into effect

**[03:04:30.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004077)  
and meron na rin hong IRR ng optimization.

**[03:04:34.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004078)  
So meaning nothing stops the department from submitting an optimization plan

**[03:04:38.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004079)  
up until na-approve yung optimization plan

**[03:04:40.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004080)  
tsaka lang namin makukuha yung full control and authority over NCSC.

**[03:04:44.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004081)  
So for now, it's status quo na independent ho sila sa amin.

**[03:04:47.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004082)  
They are merely coordinating with us.

**[03:04:50.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004083)  
For programs and for budget purposes.

**[03:04:53.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004084)  
For budget purposes also.

**[03:04:55.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004085)  
For budget purposes, nakasama ho sila sa araw pero ng talakay,

**[03:04:59.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004086)  
pero nakahiwalay ho naman silang line item.

**[03:05:02.490] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004087)  
Kasi sa batas po kasi, under ng Office of the President, ang NCSC.

**[03:05:11.030] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004088)  
So coordination lang po sa DSWD.

**[03:05:16.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004089)  
Coordination lamang po.

**[03:05:18.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004090)  
That's been very clear by the legal opinion.

**[03:05:20.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004091)  
The opinion of the Office of the President when we did the query like yourself.

**[03:05:24.450] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004092)  
Yes po. Kasi sa sulat po kasi ni Executive Secretary Ralph Recto,

**[03:05:29.570] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004093)  
lateral relationship, parang coordination lang po ng programs and parties.

**[03:05:34.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004094)  
Correct. But if you look at that same letter, meron ho yung caveat on optimization.

**[03:05:39.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004095)  
So lumabas na ho recently yung IRR ng optimization.

**[03:05:42.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004096)  
So we did submit our optimization plan that will include NCSC.

**[03:05:45.930] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004097)  
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

**[03:05:50.410] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004098)  
And at least na-klaro po kung ano po ang ano ng NCSC.

**[03:05:55.850] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004099)  
And number two po, marami po akong reklamong natanggap na sobrang bagal at tagal po

**[03:06:02.550] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004100)  
ng accreditation process ng mga home care at elderly facilities.

**[03:06:08.710] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004101)  
Ano po kaya ang nagiging problema?

**[03:06:11.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004102)  
I can tell you point blank that we've streamlined it already.

**[03:06:15.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004103)  
Kami na ho siguro may pinaka maikling timetable kapag ka kompleto at pumapasok.

**[03:06:20.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004104)  
Pumapasa. Minsan ho kasi nagre-reklamo pero I can show you if you can give us the names

**[03:06:24.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004105)  
na minsan hindi ho pumapasa and we have to be very careful.

**[03:06:28.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004106)  
Hindi ho pwedeng i-insist na gusto nila, gusto nila because kami naman ho ang madadali.

**[03:06:32.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004107)  
Kung may pinalusot kaming accreditation na hindi pumapasa sa standards prescribed by the department.

**[03:06:38.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004108)  
Alam niyo ho, Mr. Chairman, it used to take almost six months to one year

**[03:06:41.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004109)  
to get a SWADA accredited, registered license and accredited.

**[03:06:46.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004110)  
Kami, as fast as two months time.

**[03:06:49.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004111)  
Tapos?

**[03:06:49.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004112)  
Yes.

**[03:06:50.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004113)  
As long as you pass the standards.

**[03:06:52.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004114)  
Kaya lang minsan ho kasi they will insist na pasado sila but our recommendation is hindi sila pasado.

**[03:06:57.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004115)  
So doon ho talaga tumatagal but we do provide technical assistance.

**[03:07:01.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004116)  
If susundan naman nila yung mga recommendation namin, mapapabilis at makukuha nila yung kanilang accreditation.

**[03:07:07.350] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004117)  
Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

**[03:07:09.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004118)  
And digital rin ho ang aming application.

**[03:07:12.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004119)  
Streamlined, meaning when you register, sabay na ho ang license to operate.

**[03:07:16.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004120)  
So two weeks, ay two months lang.

**[03:07:18.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004121)  
Kung pumapasa po.

**[03:07:20.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004122)  
And it's all done online.

**[03:07:21.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004123)  
Hindi na humano-mano na dinadaanan sa office yung mga requirements.

**[03:07:25.310] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004124)  
Thank you.

**[03:07:26.810] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004125)  
Number three, Secretary, under our existing laws po, mayroon pong 1% budget allocation for senior citizens at PWDs

**[03:07:37.530] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004126)  
ang bawat ahensya ng National Government Agency.

**[03:07:41.650] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004127)  
Mayroon po bang monitoring mechanism ang DSWD kung paano po ito nagagamit?

**[03:07:48.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004128)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:07:50.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004129)  
We signed a joint memo circular with DBM on its implementation.

**[03:07:54.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004130)  
And I believe it's DBM through the submissions ng mga ahensya na nagmumonitor ng 1% compliance.

**[03:08:00.590] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004131)  
So, nagpapakinabangan naman po ng mga senior citizens.

**[03:08:06.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004132)  
And slash PWD.

**[03:08:08.550] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004133)  
Thank you.

**[03:08:10.250] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004134)  
And number four po, napakarami pong mga reklamo hanggang ngayon

**[03:08:15.610] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004135)  
ang mga mahal nating senior citizens tungkol sa payout ng social payout.

**[03:08:20.170] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004136)  
Pension para sa mga indigent.

**[03:08:22.750] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004137)  
Ano na po ba ang nangyari?

**[03:08:25.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004138)  
Mr. Chair, yan yung kaninang pinaliliwanag ko kay Congressman Ordanez

**[03:08:28.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004139)  
na unfortunately, the most of the grievances is inclusion.

**[03:08:34.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004140)  
So, minsan nahihirapan ho kami dahil nga una, kalahati lang naman ho ang funded nung mandate.

**[03:08:39.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004141)  
Hindi naman ho buo.

**[03:08:41.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004142)  
Ibig sabihin, sa dami ho na kailangan i-accommodate, kalahati lang ho lagi taon-taon ang naibibigay sa amin.

**[03:08:48.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004143)  
Pangalawa, siyempre ho minsan lack of information,

**[03:08:50.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004144)  
nasa-strike off sila sa listahan dahil nga meron silang SSS, GSIS, or other types of pension

**[03:08:57.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004145)  
na hindi nila naunawaan na pag may ganun ka na kasi maliit lang naman, feeling nila entitled sila

**[03:09:02.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004146)  
and we personally agree, naaalis sila sa listahan.

**[03:09:05.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004147)  
And third, yung problema nga ho sa CBMS tulad na nabanggit namin kanina,

**[03:09:09.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004148)  
which we've remedied already because nga ngayon, meron ng on-demand purpose

**[03:09:13.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004149)  
meaning pag binigay sa amin ng LGN listahan, magka-query na lang kami, maaring wala ka sa CBMS

**[03:09:18.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004150)  
pero pag nasa birth registry ka at wala ka naman sa death registry at ikaw ay matanda na, kasama ka ho kagad.

**[03:09:26.150] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004151)  
Okay po, kasi yun nga po, yung mga nagbawas kayo, kasi dapat lang humagbawas kayo

**[03:09:31.450] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004152)  
kasi may mga nagpe-pension, may mga medyo mayaman na tumatanggap, no?

**[03:09:36.650] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004153)  
Pero ano pong nangyari, ano pong ba ang gagawin natin dun sa mga nabawas?

**[03:09:41.430] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004154)  
Hindi ho ba pwedeng doon din iibalik yung mga nabawas?

**[03:09:46.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004155)  
Again,

**[03:09:48.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004156)  
Again, we have to be, we have to look at the age kasi yung bagong guidelines namin, age muna.

**[03:09:54.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004157)  
I think you would agree na unahin natin yung pinakamatatanda.

**[03:09:57.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004158)  
So yung mga na-free up na slot, hinahanap namin sa CBMS yung 90 pababa

**[03:10:02.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004159)  
and then inuunti-unti namin malagay sila sa listahan.

**[03:10:09.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004160)  
So it's not geographic in short, it's age.

**[03:10:13.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004161)  
So titignan namin yung CBMS at yung mga waitlist, unahin natin yung mga pinakamatatanda

**[03:10:17.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004162)  
and I think that's the most equitable.

**[03:10:19.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004163)  
At this point in time, nakalahati lang yung funded nung mandate.

**[03:10:22.920] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004164)  
Siguro mas maganda na ho, siguro universal social pension.

**[03:10:26.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004165)  
And we totally agree 101%.

**[03:10:29.000] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004166)  
Ang mga seniors, lahat na po sila tatanggap na po.

**[03:10:33.280] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004167)  
So, paano po ba karami ang ma-existing at operational senior citizens

**[03:10:39.220] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004168)  
o elderly facilities natin nationwide?

**[03:10:42.600] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004169)  
Paano po ang budget allocation determination ng mga DSW-run elderly facilities sa buong bansa?

**[03:10:49.420] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004170)  
Matagal po na pong binabanggit, kailangan natin ng mas maraming mga residential homes

**[03:10:57.120] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004171)  
and facilities for senior citizens who are abandoned, homeless, and neglected.

**[03:11:03.060] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004172)  
Ano po ang naging hakbang na ninyo dito?

**[03:11:18.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004173)  
We have four nationwide and admittedly kulang po ito.

**[03:11:21.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004174)  
And that's why we're asking for more budget.

**[03:11:23.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004175)  
Pero tulad din ang paliwanag ko kanina, we are now taking, based on last year's budget,

**[03:11:27.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004176)  
we are now taking a PPP approach to it.

**[03:11:29.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004177)  
Meaning?

**[03:11:30.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004178)  
Meron na kaming cost of care provision.

**[03:11:32.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004179)  
Kung saan, kung meron namang private na pwede natin doon i-refer,

**[03:11:36.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004180)  
DSWD ho magbabayad ng cost of care.

**[03:11:38.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004181)  
Kasi mas mabilis, mas effective yung pagtatayo ng gano'n.

**[03:11:41.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004182)  
We're almost done with the guidelines.

**[03:11:43.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004183)  
We're just waiting for the final go signal from the DBM.

**[03:11:47.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004184)  
Yeah.

**[03:11:48.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004185)  
Four for the nationally-run residential care facility.

**[03:11:53.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004186)  
Three for the LG-run residential care facility.

**[03:11:57.260] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004187)  
Seven na po lahat.

**[03:11:58.580] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004188)  
So, sana po matagdagan natin.

**[03:12:00.820] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004189)  
Kasi ang dami po tayong abandoned and homeless senior citizens.

**[03:12:04.700] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004190)  
And we agree.

**[03:12:06.240] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004191)  
Thank you po.

**[03:12:07.800] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004192)  
At nito pong mga nakaraang mga linggo, sunod-sunod po ang mga pagulan at pagbaha

**[03:12:15.060] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004193)  
dahil sa habagat.

**[03:12:17.040] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004194)  
Nasusunod po ba sa distribution ng mga relief goods or family food packs

**[03:12:22.140] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004195)  
na priority ang mga senior citizens?

**[03:12:25.200] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004196)  
Tila hindi po ito nangyayari, Secretary.

**[03:12:27.700] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004197)  
Parang hindi po talagang mahal ng DSWD ang mga senior citizens.

**[03:12:30.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004198)  
Mahal na mahal namin ang mga senior citizens, lalo na po kayo.

**[03:12:36.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004199)  
Mr. Chairman, we have to remember.

**[03:12:40.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004200)  
Sa batas sa Local Government Code, ang first responder po talaga ang mga local government units.

**[03:12:46.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004201)  
Ang ginagawa lamang ng DSWD is to augment kasi kulang ang kapasidad ng mga LGU.

**[03:12:52.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004202)  
We're proud to say that this tong mga habagat, 3.6 million na family food packs ang lumabas in a span of four months.

**[03:13:00.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004203)  
Ibinabagsak po natin yun sa mga local government units for them to do the last mile distribution.

**[03:13:05.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004204)  
Dahil wala naman ho kaming sapat na tao to do that or know-how ng terrain.

**[03:13:09.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004205)  
Now, we constantly remind our local social welfare offices to prioritize vulnerable sectors.

**[03:13:17.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004206)  
Seniors, people with disability, indigenous people, pregnant and lactating women.

**[03:13:22.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004207)  
Pati sa camp management kung saan nagaganap ang pinakamarami na aktividad during an evacuation,

**[03:13:29.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004208)  
kine-remind din ho namin sila sa protocols.

**[03:13:30.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004209)  
Kasi, we set the standards, they execute it, we regulate them.

**[03:13:36.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004210)  
Pero sa 3.6 million na sana all na ho yun.

**[03:13:39.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004211)  
So, we would assume na dapat nabigyan ho ng mga local government units yung kanila mga senior.

**[03:13:44.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004212)  
And alam ko mahal na mahal ng mga local government units ang kanila mga senior citizens.

**[03:13:48.240] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004213)  
Yes, because seniors are the most vulnerable sectors when it comes to calamity.

**[03:13:52.520] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004214)  
So, for the record, Mr. Chair, I just want to put this in the record that I would like to...

**[03:14:00.820] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004215)  
to file a complaint against Region 1 Director Angela Gopela for her arrogance and her...

**[03:14:11.100] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004216)  
and doing injustice to the senior citizens.

**[03:14:14.740] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004217)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:14:16.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004218)  
Mr. Chairman, we will accept and we will commission the necessary fact-finding

**[03:14:19.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004219)  
and go through our administrative process and we will report back to the committee.

**[03:14:24.580] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004220)  
Thank you. She doesn't deserve that position.

**[03:14:28.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004221)  
Thank you. Thank you, Kuwang Mila.

**[03:14:30.820] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004222)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's all.

**[03:14:36.200] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004223)  
Maybe, can we take up already the budget of the NCOC or later?

**[03:14:41.060] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004224)  
Maybe later. I think it's already incorporated.

**[03:14:45.360] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-004225)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:15:07.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004226)  
We now recognize Cong. Elijah San Fernando. Is he around? No. So, Representative Edgar Erice...

**[03:15:27.200] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004227)  
Is he around? Representative Iris Montes.

**[03:15:35.990] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004227-split-2)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um...

**[03:15:38.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004228)  
Magandang tanghali po, Secretary Rex, and to the whole DSWD family. Most of my questions

**[03:15:46.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004229)  
have been previously asked and have been adequately answered by the secretary so i just have

**[03:15:52.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004230)  
one simple question but before um i i asked that um i was just requested by our colleague

**[03:16:00.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004231)  
Congresswoman Johanne Monich Bautista to ask about her concern

**[03:16:05.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004232)  
Tungkol po ito, Secretary, sa QRF.

**[03:16:09.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004233)  
Sa presentation po kasi mapapansin natin,

**[03:16:12.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004234)  
like for 2025,

**[03:16:14.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004235)  
yung regular niyo po

**[03:16:16.100] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004236)  
is 1.25 billion. Tapos nagkaroon po ng replenishment ng 7.8. Sa 2026, 3 billion po, nagkaroon ng replenishment na 9.6. Ang concern lang po ng ating colleague ay for 2027, 1.25 lang daw po. Hindi po ba daw kukulangin? Assured po daw tayo ba na kahit maliit ito ay magre-replenish ulit?

**[03:16:42.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004237)  
Mr. Chairman, it's a very good question. Nagagalak ho kami sa tanong na 'yan. Actually, may assurance naman ho na may pondo kasi replenishable. Pero siyempre sa panahon ng sakuna dapat mabilis ho kami, maagap. So nakikiusap ho kami, sumulat rin kami sa committee na sana ma-restore back to its 3 billion level. At dati napagbigyan naman ho kami para mas mabilis kami na nakaka-responde, lalo na sabay-sabay ho yung sakuna. It's no longer contained in one area; it's multi-region.

**[03:17:10.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004238)  
So sana ho mabalik ho talaga kami.

**[03:17:11.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004239)  
We are earnestly asking the committee to consider because ho

**[03:17:16.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004240)  
maaapektuhan yung turnaround time namin sa pag-responde, pag-procure, paglatag ng emergency cash transfer.

**[03:17:24.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004241)  
And I want to point out, para lang sa kaalaman ng lahat, wala namang dagdag na cost sa gobyerno dahil nandun lang siya nakalagak sa QRF ng national.

**[03:17:32.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004242)  
So, sana lang lakihan yung seed capital ng QRF namin para mas mabilis kaming makaresponde.

**[03:17:37.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004243)  
Thank you, Secretary. This representation shares your sentiments and I do support that we restore your 2026 QRF levels.

**[03:17:49.420] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004244)  
Moving on to my question, a simple question, Mr. Chair.

**[03:17:57.580] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004245)  
The DSWD has repeatedly faced challenges in ensuring timely and targeted delivery of social protection programs.

**[03:18:07.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004246)  
Yan po ay nasabi nyo na, nabanggit nyo na during the lead committee hearings at kanina po, parang nire-iterate po ninyo uli.

**[03:18:17.900] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004247)  
Dahil po, meron tayong fragmented and disconnected data system.

**[03:18:24.180] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004248)  
So, wala po tayong real-time na accurate na data.

**[03:18:30.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004249)  
So, medyo nahihirapan po tayo to roll out sa part po ninyo yung mga social protection programs.

**[03:18:37.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004250)  
Ano po?

**[03:18:37.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004251)  
That is why this representation, ang kababaihan kabalikatan para sa kapakanan at kaunlaran ng bayan, actively participated during the lead committee hearings.

**[03:18:50.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004252)  
Out of that, the 4K has filed at least six or seven interventions, one of which is House Bill 9084.

**[03:19:00.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004253)  
It calls for the establishment of a national and integrated registry system.

**[03:19:07.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004254)  
That is interoperable to address this gap.

**[03:19:11.340] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004255)  
So, the system establishes the foundational mechanism for efficient, transparent, and responsive governance.

**[03:19:17.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004256)  
It also proposes a system that builds on existing national initiatives, such as the Philippine identification system and social registries, transforming them into a unified data ecosystem that supports inclusive growth and digital transformation.

**[03:19:37.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004257)  
So, it also addresses the long-standing fragmentation of government data systems, which limit efficiency and effectiveness of public service delivery.

**[03:19:48.140] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004258)  
But beyond Mr. Secretary, a single registry, what the country truly needs is an integrated yet interoperable system that connects administrative registries like LGU household records, barangay level data,

**[03:20:05.700] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004259)  
data, sa civil registration and identification systems naman po, nakapaloob sana doon yung

**[03:20:12.560] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004260)  
PhilSys, birth and death records, and national ID.

**[03:20:17.380] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004261)  
Dapat meron din po sigurong component na sectoral and program-based registries.

**[03:20:23.260] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004262)  
Nandoon po yung 4Ps, yung senior citizen, yung PWDs, meron pong disaster response list,

**[03:20:30.620] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004263)  
education, and labor database.

**[03:20:32.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004264)  
Sa social registry naman po, dapat meron mga poverty targeting mechanism,

**[03:20:38.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004265)  
household vulnerability mapping, meron din pong PhilHealth, GSIS, SSS, DepEd, DOLE, and LGU databases.

**[03:20:48.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004266)  
So, only by linking the systems can we ensure real-time, accurate, and inclusive targeting of beneficiaries,

**[03:20:56.660] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004267)  
while also, kapaloob din po doon sa bill, pag-safeguard ng data privacy and accountability.

**[03:21:02.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004268)  
So, ang simpleng tanong ko lamang po, Mr. Secretary, does the department view this integration as a step towards the right direction?

**[03:21:13.780] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004269)  
And will the Secretary support this reform?

**[03:21:17.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004270)  
Mr. Chairman, in fact, we are doing a small pilot inside the department, a social registry that integrates our own databases

**[03:21:25.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004271)  
from 4Ps, Walang Gutong, the program databases.

**[03:21:28.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004272)  
But it would be nice if it's scaled up to a national level.

**[03:21:31.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004273)  
And we're fully supportive.

**[03:21:33.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004274)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chair.

**[03:21:37.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004275)  
I will furnish you po a copy of my bill.

**[03:21:40.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004276)  
And I will appreciate if you can take a good look at it.

**[03:21:45.460] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004277)  
And siguro po, you can share, you can review, send some comments and inputs to improve the bill.

**[03:21:53.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004278)  
And if you find it helpful and necessary, perhaps I will just request the Secretary to bring it up, perhaps, to the Executive.

**[03:22:01.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004279)  
Department for its passage or for it to be a priority of this Congress.

**[03:22:10.060] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004280)  
Thank you, Secretary Rex.

**[03:22:12.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004281)  
Mr. Chair, we'll gladly accept that we already registered our full support to the bill in writing early on.

**[03:22:18.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004282)  
So, we'll gladly accept and see if there are new angles that you want us to comment on.

**[03:22:23.940] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-004283)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair, that would be all.

**[03:22:27.840] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004284)  
Thank you.

**[03:22:39.710] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004285)  
May we recognize

**[03:22:42.910] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004286)  
Representative

**[03:22:45.010] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004287)  
Johanne Monich Bautista.

**[03:22:48.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004288)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:22:49.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004289)  
And magandang hapon po sa DSWD family, Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[03:22:56.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004290)  
I believe my, one of my questions was asked earlier by Kong Iris.

**[03:23:00.010] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004291)  
Thank you very much po.

**[03:23:01.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004292)  
I akala ko po hindi ako makakabalik agad, but now I'm here.

**[03:23:05.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004293)  
I just wanted to join my colleagues who already expressed their

**[03:23:12.010] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004294)  
support.

**[03:23:12.910] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004295)  
And commendation to the DSWD family, of course, under the outstanding leadership of Secretary

**[03:23:19.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004296)  
Rex Gatchalian for their timely and effective delivery of social services.

**[03:23:24.010] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004297)  
Kitang-kita po natin sa bawat sakuna, sa bawat trahedya po, nandyan po on the ground, always

**[03:23:30.010] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004298)  
at the forefront ang ating DSWD.

**[03:23:32.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004299)  
Maraming salamat po sa inyong servisyo.

**[03:23:34.710] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004300)  
And with that, I express my full support para po sa budget ng DSWD.

**[03:23:42.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004301)  
Marami pa pong mga kailangang idagdag.

**[03:23:45.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004302)  
Nabanggit na po kanina, kagaya po nung AICS, hindi ko na po babanggitin kasi I believe

**[03:23:49.710] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004303)  
as Secrex was able to explain and justify the need to at least return the amount that

**[03:23:59.510] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004304)  
was removed under the NEP.

**[03:24:01.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004305)  
And then yung QRF din po na nabanggit ni Kong Iris Montes kanina, nakita naman po natin,

**[03:24:09.010] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004306)  
quick response, importante po yan.

**[03:24:11.510] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004307)  
Kita naman din po natin na itong pondong po ito ay diretsyo naman po yan sa mga tao.

**[03:24:17.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004308)  
So tayo po ay hindi po dapat magdalawang isip at maging panatag po tayo kung dadagdagan

**[03:24:25.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004309)  
po natin ang pondong ito na kailangan po ng DSWD.

**[03:24:29.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004310)  
Siguro po just one more question, since natanong na po yung QRF kanina.

**[03:24:36.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004311)  
On behalf lang po ng ating mga workers po.

**[03:24:40.410] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004312)  
Mr. Chair, kasi po siguro the good secretary can explain.

**[03:24:48.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004313)  
Ang hinanaing po kasi ng iba po sa ating mga workers, sinasabi po nila na they feel like

**[03:24:56.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004314)  
minsan po na pag iiwanan sila pagdating sa mga social services po ng ating gobyerno.

**[03:25:02.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004315)  
Dahil of course hindi ko naman po sinasabi na definitely priority po natin yung mga higit

**[03:25:08.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004316)  
na nangangailangan.

**[03:25:09.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004317)  
But then we also have our minimum wage earners, even our middle class workers na isang emergency,

**[03:25:17.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004318)  
medical emergency lang, isang namatayan ay maapektuhan na po ang kanilang finances.

**[03:25:25.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004319)  
So maybe the good secretary can explain or inform our minimum wage workers, yung pong

**[03:25:34.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004320)  
mga nagtatrabaho nating mga kababayan.

**[03:25:37.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004321)  
That they are also covered.

**[03:25:39.310] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004322)  
And entitled to the programs of the DSWD.

**[03:25:42.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004323)  
Mr. Chairman, I just want to again point out na ang AICS ho is for everybody.

**[03:25:46.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004324)  
It looks at the crisis situation more than the income level.

**[03:25:50.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004325)  
So lagi namin sinasabi magtungo lang ho sa aming mga tanggapan para ma-assess ng social

**[03:25:55.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004326)  
worker natin.

**[03:25:56.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004327)  
And in fact, I just don't have the data with me.

**[03:25:58.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004328)  
We will gladly furnish the committee.

**[03:26:00.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004329)  
A percentage, a real significant percentage of AIICS really goes to those above the middle

**[03:26:05.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004330)  
class.

**[03:26:06.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004331)  
So those above the poverty threshold, the near poor.

**[03:26:08.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004332)  
All the way to 50%.

**[03:26:09.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004333)  
I just don't have the percentages right now but we'll send it to you.

**[03:26:13.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004334)  
It goes to show na yung crisis in crisis situation yung tinitignan.

**[03:26:19.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004335)  
Now number two, the president also instructed us to widen the lalo na ngayong energy emergency.

**[03:26:25.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004336)  
That's why the uplift assistance has three components to it of which yung pangatlo is

**[03:26:31.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004337)  
targeting low wage earners.

**[03:26:33.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004338)  
These are above minimum wage earners ng SSS.

**[03:26:36.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004339)  
That's around 1.5 million.

**[03:26:38.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004340)  
Ang na-service na namin around 800,000 kasi tulad na nabanggit ko kanina dormant yung beneficiary

**[03:26:46.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004341)  
accounts ng marami sa kanila.

**[03:26:48.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004342)  
But we're working on that with SSS to try to look for more of them para ma-exhaust natin

**[03:26:53.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004343)  
yung 1.5 the monthly allocation na tigta 2,000 para sa ating mga SSS low wage earners.

**[03:27:00.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004344)  
Thank you po.

**[03:27:01.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004345)  
And thank you for that explanation po from our Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[03:27:06.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004346)  
I think yun lang po.

**[03:27:07.210] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004347)  
I think yun lang po ang aking ipo-point out.

**[03:27:09.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004348)  
Nasagot naman po.

**[03:27:11.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004349)  
And again, I just wanted to manifest our sincere appreciation to the good Secretary and the

**[03:27:18.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004350)  
entire DSWD family for all their hard work 24-7.

**[03:27:22.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004351)  
Mapaulan, mapabagyo, nandyan po sila.

**[03:27:25.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004352)  
Maraming salamat po and we manifest our strong support for the needed budget and the requested

**[03:27:31.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004353)  
additional budget of the DSWD.

**[03:27:33.110] Rep. Johanne Monich G. Bautista** (asr-004354)  
Maraming salamat po, Mr. Chair.

**[03:27:35.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004355)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[03:27:37.210] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004356)  
Thank you.

**[03:27:41.940] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004357)  
We now recognize Representative Krisel Lagman.

**[03:27:49.160] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004358)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[03:27:50.980] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004359)  
Hindi pa kumakain si Secretary.

**[03:27:52.840] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004360)  
Iba talaga pag rooted sa local government ang head ng department.

**[03:28:01.840] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004361)  
Lalong-lalo na pagdating sa social services.

**[03:28:04.840] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004362)  
Damang-dama po namin ang hands-on approach

**[03:28:10.840] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004363)  
and holistic approach ng inyong paggogobyerno, Secretary Rex.

**[03:28:14.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004364)  
Ang Tabaco, Albay, laging nasasalanta.

**[03:28:22.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004365)  
Maging bagyo man yan o mga volcanic eruptions.

**[03:28:25.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004366)  
Itong nakaraan ang pinakamahaba na evacuation time sa loob ng evacuation centers.

**[03:28:35.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004367)  
Inabot po sa 7 buwan.

**[03:28:38.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004368)  
7 buwan.

**[03:28:39.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004369)  
Nagsimula ng January 6 at nag-decamp ng August 6.

**[03:28:45.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004370)  
So, 7 months po.

**[03:28:47.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004371)  
And hindi po talaga nagpabaya ang DSWD.

**[03:28:51.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004372)  
Naandito ang aming regional director, si RD Norman Laurio.

**[03:28:55.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004373)  
And nagpapasalamat po ako sa agaran at maliksi na pag-responde niya sa mga pangailangan ng aming mga evacuees.

**[03:29:05.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004374)  
Suficiente rin po yung pinamimigay.

**[03:29:09.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004375)  
In fact, every 15 days, may binibigay na good for 3 days na food packs.

**[03:29:20.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004376)  
So, sa isang buwan, nakaka-receive ng mga around 9 to 10 boxes ang aming mga families.

**[03:29:29.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004377)  
Ito lang po ang aking comment.

**[03:29:32.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004378)  
First is, wala pong pinipili.

**[03:29:35.640] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004379)  
Ang ibig kong sabihin, maging isang miyembro lang ng pamilya,

**[03:29:39.540] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004380)  
o sampung miyembro ng pamilya,

**[03:29:41.440] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004381)  
eh ang ibinabahagi po ay isang kahon.

**[03:29:45.440] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004382)  
And every 3 days po sila nakaka-receive nito.

**[03:29:49.440] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004383)  
Baka maaari po na maging mas maayos ang pagbabahagi nito.

**[03:29:55.440] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004384)  
Kasi ang isang pamilya na may isang miyembro,

**[03:30:00.000] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004385)  
At makakareceive ng 6 kilos of rice every 3 days ay napakalaki po na appropriation na sana ay napunta doon sa mas malalaking pamilya.

**[03:30:10.920] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004386)  
So, iyon po ang isang comment ko.

**[03:30:13.180] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004387)  
Pangalawa rin naman po yung variety.

**[03:30:15.680] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004388)  
Alam ko kakaiba ang sitwasyon namin sa Albay.

**[03:30:18.900] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004389)  
Hindi all the time ay ganito kahaba ang evacuation.

**[03:30:25.500] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004390)  
Ang iba ilang araw lang, baka linggo.

**[03:30:28.920] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004391)  
Pero nangyayari po at nangyayari pa lang.

**[03:30:32.420] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004392)  
Kaya ang pakiusap ko po sana may variety rin ang laman ng mga boxes natin.

**[03:30:40.420] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004393)  
And sana po naandito ang chairman ng Ways and Means Committee.

**[03:30:45.380] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004394)  
Katabi ko po si chairman.

**[03:30:48.940] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004395)  
And napansin po namin ay yung madali pong ma-distribute at matagal ang shelf life ang nilalagay natin.

**[03:30:56.820] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004396)  
Siyempre.

**[03:30:57.500] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004397)  
Kasi mahabaan.

**[03:30:58.920] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004398)  
Ang storage nito.

**[03:31:00.740] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004399)  
Subalit sana po instead of 3-in-1 coffee na loaded po talaga sa asukal at flavorings,

**[03:31:10.540] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004400)  
baka po po pwedeng stick na lang ng coffee.

**[03:31:14.240] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004401)  
Baka mas marami pang mabibili kesa sa limang pakete ng 3-in-1.

**[03:31:19.700] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004402)  
Baka po pwedeng isang dosena na ng stick ng coffee.

**[03:31:23.380] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004403)  
Kasi at least yun totoong kape at hindi loaded sa asukal.

**[03:31:27.040] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004404)  
Nakalagay rin po doon ay Ovaltine.

**[03:31:31.660] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004405)  
And maganda po yun para sa mga bata.

**[03:31:34.680] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004406)  
Pero sana magkaroon ng mas nutritious na substitute.

**[03:31:38.680] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004407)  
Kasi ang tinitingnan lang po natin ay hindi lang yung may pantawid gutom,

**[03:31:43.660] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004408)  
kundi sana nutritious din po ang laman ng ating pinamimigay.

**[03:31:49.420] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004409)  
So wala po akong masyadong reklamo, sir.

**[03:31:53.320] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004410)  
Mabilis ang aksyon.

**[03:31:55.920] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004411)  
Sustained.

**[03:31:57.040] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004412)  
Masyado nga pong na-pamper yung mga LGUs.

**[03:32:00.420] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004413)  
Kasi under your watch, ngayon lang namin naramdaman

**[03:32:03.840] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004414)  
na hindi na iisipin ng LGUs kung ano ang ipamimigay.

**[03:32:08.260] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004415)  
Kasi sustained siya.

**[03:32:10.720] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004416)  
Hindi lang siya quick response, pero sustained ang response.

**[03:32:15.340] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004417)  
Tuloy, yung probinsya ng Albay, for instance,

**[03:32:19.240] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004418)  
once lang namihagi ng bigas.

**[03:32:21.680] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004419)  
At nung pag-decamp, doon nagbigay pa ng fresh food.

**[03:32:27.040] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004420)  
Yung mga LGUs naman po ay hindi na gumagamit ng kanilang quick response funds.

**[03:32:32.600] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004421)  
Kasi umasa na lahat sa DSWD.

**[03:32:36.280] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004422)  
So kanina sinabi ninyo na kayo ang pang-augment.

**[03:32:42.480] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004423)  
Hindi po ganun ang nangyayari.

**[03:32:44.480] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004424)  
So palagay ko may mali rin po doon sa senaryo, sir.

**[03:32:49.500] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004425)  
Kailangan ata mapag-aralan din mabuti.

**[03:32:52.480] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004426)  
O mag-guide yung LGU.

**[03:32:54.440] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004427)  
Kapag hindi ka nagbigay,

**[03:32:57.040] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004428)  
hindi ba po pwedeng i-ask sa lahat sa DSWD?

**[03:33:01.060] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004429)  
Lahat ako, salita, hindi ko malang narinig yung response ninyo.

**[03:33:05.220] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004430)  
So again, maraming salamat po.

**[03:33:07.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004431)  
Mr. Chairman, totally agree.

**[03:33:10.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004432)  
Una ho yung efficiency.

**[03:33:12.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004433)  
Now is the time that we study our options on individuals versus family packs.

**[03:33:18.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004434)  
Mahirap sa logistics sa storekeeping, pero we're up to the challenge.

**[03:33:22.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004435)  
Number two, variety.

**[03:33:24.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004436)  
Hindi na lang ngayon kasi sa Albay nangyayari.

**[03:33:27.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004437)  
Ito yung protracted disasters, like what we're seeing now in Central Luzon na one month and a half na.

**[03:33:32.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004438)  
When those boxes na, we just kept what it was nung na nakuha namin yung control ng department.

**[03:33:38.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004439)  
Tama ko kayo, we have to start thinking of the new type of disasters that's hitting us.

**[03:33:44.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004440)  
And variety is something that's important.

**[03:33:46.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004441)  
The food fatigue is something that's real.

**[03:33:48.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004442)  
At kaya kami nakakarinig rin.

**[03:33:50.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004443)  
So we will take that into account.

**[03:33:52.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004444)  
But the first two items, well noted, we will study.

**[03:33:56.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004445)  
Mahirap kasi ho.

**[03:33:58.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004446)  
That means us storekeeping multiple types of packs.

**[03:34:02.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004447)  
But we're up to the challenge.

**[03:34:04.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004448)  
Number three, yung 3-1 coffee.

**[03:34:08.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004449)  
Ako, I myself drink black and I agree.

**[03:34:10.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004450)  
Pero gusto ko lang ko i-point out, lahat ho yun, bago nalagay sa kahon, dumadaan sa FNRI.

**[03:34:15.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004451)  
It passed their minimum standards, but we will review.

**[03:34:19.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004452)  
Well noted as well, Madam Chair.

**[03:34:21.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004453)  
Mr. Chair, and last but not the least, yun sa QRF.

**[03:34:24.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004454)  
Ma'am, you read my mind.

**[03:34:25.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004455)  
And you said what I can't say publicly because we're in the middle of a disaster.

**[03:34:30.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004456)  
But rest assured that we're already talking to DBM because we're seeing slow or low utilization ng mga quick response sa LGU level.

**[03:34:38.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004457)  
And I would also point out nga na unlike the national QRF na na-exhaust sa lokal, you know this very well,

**[03:34:46.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004458)  
nare-revert yan after two years or three years into the general fund.

**[03:34:50.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004459)  
Five years pala, sorry, five years.

**[03:34:52.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004460)  
I haven't practiced local government in more than four years now.

**[03:34:55.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004461)  
So we have to really think about what you said.

**[03:35:00.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004462)  
Kasi ang sinasabi nyo, lagi ko rin yan sinasabi na sa isip ko.

**[03:35:03.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004463)  
Pero we're going to find a way to make the LGUs counterpart man lang.

**[03:35:08.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004464)  
Kasi nga, like I said, mabigat na ng pabigat.

**[03:35:11.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004465)  
And I hope we see lang kasi the only reason why we're doing this massive is because in a hungry family, walang national government, walang local government.

**[03:35:22.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004466)  
Pag galit siya sa gobyerno, galit siya sa gobyerno.

**[03:35:24.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004467)  
Kung hindi siya nakakuha ng pagkain, galit siya.

**[03:35:26.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004468)  
Pero it's no reason for the lopsided utilization of the QRF.

**[03:35:34.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004469)  
While the national government is using its QRF massively to a point na nade-deplete natin,

**[03:35:39.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004470)  
the local government will look at how they utilize and how to prod them with the help of DILG and DBM to spend their QRFs also.

**[03:35:47.860] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004471)  
I would just like to add na maganda yung aksyon na ginawa ng DSWD

**[03:35:54.860] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004472)  
na nagbigay ng Emergency Cash Assistance para mabibili nila yung mga [unclear] items na kailangan rin nila.

**[03:36:04.860] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004473)  
Pero sa 7 buwan at isang Emergency Cash Assistance, baka sa susunod pa pwedeng planuhin na mas madalas.

**[03:36:12.860] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004474)  
May cash for work. One cash for work, one emergency cash assistance.

**[03:36:17.860] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004475)  
So baka mas tingnan natin kung pa paano mabalansihin.

**[03:36:22.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004476)  
And since it's an ongoing disaster, si Mayon hasn't really de-escalated.

**[03:36:29.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004477)  
The Undersecretary for Disaster will sit down with a good Congresswoman on packaging more.

**[03:36:34.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004478)  
But well noted not just for Mayon but for every other protracted disaster.

**[03:36:39.960] Rep. Cielo Krisel Lagman** (asr-004479)  
Maraming maraming salamat, Secretary. And congratulations, job well done.

**[03:36:46.200] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004480)  
Thank you, Kong Lagman.

**[03:36:48.840] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004481)  
As if we're running out of interpellators, Mr. Secretary.

**[03:36:51.880] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004482)  
The good thing is we have with us the Committee Chair of the Ways and Means.

**[03:36:58.400] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004483)  
We recognize Congressman Miro Quimbo.

**[03:37:05.100] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004484)  
Thank you very much.

**[03:37:06.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004485)  
Actually, I wasn't supposed to ask you a question, but it seems that for the first time we're running out of warm bodies.

**[03:37:13.280] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004486)  
So just to keep the conversation going, well, I mean honestly, I have nothing to ask.

**[03:37:21.980] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004487)  
Because how do you fix something that's already working?

**[03:37:28.800] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004488)  
I think we have very hardworking employees.

**[03:37:34.060] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004489)  
The response time has become so much quicker.

**[03:37:38.220] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004490)  
Even in terms of professionalizing the distribution and pickup of our pag-asa boxes.

**[03:37:48.100] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004491)  
How do we call our boxes again?

**[03:37:49.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004492)  
Family food box.

**[03:37:50.700] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004493)  
Family food box.

**[03:37:51.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004494)  
I said that earlier, in previous years, parang kahon ng pag-asa.

**[03:38:01.680] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004495)  
Because it does. I mean, that's what it does.

**[03:38:04.020] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004496)  
Meaning when people see it, it's already a symbol of something that addresses deep wants at a very dire moment.

**[03:38:13.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004497)  
So tingin ko, baka pag-isipan natin, it's too businesslike.

**[03:38:18.020] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004498)  
It's too Rex Gatchal yan.

**[03:38:21.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004499)  
Parang it's part of a key performance indicator.

**[03:38:28.000] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004500)  
Parang ganun ang dating eh, di ba?

**[03:38:29.960] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004501)  
What's it called? Family?

**[03:38:31.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004502)  
Family food pack.

**[03:38:33.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004503)  
FFP.

**[03:38:34.160] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004504)  
Palitan mo na yun.

**[03:38:35.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004505)  
We will, Mr. Chair.

**[03:38:37.000] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004506)  
I think with something more, yeah, something more spiritual, di ba?

**[03:38:41.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004507)  
Hopeful, yeah.

**[03:38:42.220] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004508)  
Yeah, yung aspirational.

**[03:38:44.000] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004509)  
But anyway, so even the way that it's managed, the way they are packed, these are very simple things.

**[03:38:51.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004510)  
But even on the part of the end user, you see them very much satisfied.

**[03:38:57.640] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004511)  
And even the way it is packed today, I have rarely heard of anyone actually na, ang tawag dyan, binuburiki eh.

**[03:39:06.160] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004512)  
Yung dinidismantle and then nilalagay in their own political packaging.

**[03:39:12.120] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004513)  
Hindi ko na rin nababalitaan yan eh.

**[03:39:13.900] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004514)  
Kasi sobrang hirap yata i-unbundle.

**[03:39:16.760] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004515)  
Tanggal pala yung scotch tape dyan, di ba?

**[03:39:19.160] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004516)  
So, but like I said,

**[03:39:21.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004517)  
yung tanong ko na lang is really on senior citizen pension.

**[03:39:26.680] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004518)  
So, I've seen that while the budget for this, for next year, is actually lower, slightly lower from this year.

**[03:39:34.440] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004519)  
Despite the fact that the target has increased by, I think, more than 50,000, ang additional beneficiaries.

**[03:39:43.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004520)  
Pero bakit mas mababa yung budget?

**[03:39:47.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004521)  
Mr. Chairman, ano kasi yun?

**[03:39:50.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004522)  
Congressional amendment?

**[03:39:51.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004523)  
Yung nadagdag?

**[03:39:53.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004524)  
And even that, kasi kapos na kapos eh.

**[03:39:55.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004525)  
We are fully supportive of the provision that you've been pushing together with former Congresswoman Stella

**[03:40:01.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004526)  
on a universal senior pension, social pension for senior citizens.

**[03:40:06.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004527)  
It will address the public perception na pinipili.

**[03:40:10.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004528)  
And we totally agree.

**[03:40:12.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004529)  
Sana hawa, huwag lang ma-restore, but we add more to cater to all of them.

**[03:40:17.440] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004530)  
Yeah, I think, Chairman, the point here relative to senior citizens,

**[03:40:21.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004531)  
and pension is, nothing can be worse when you're doing a great program,

**[03:40:27.060] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004532)  
but you receive more criticisms than praises.

**[03:40:30.240] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004533)  
Because yung tumatanggap, kadalasan di naman nagpapasalamat na eh, diba?

**[03:40:35.460] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004534)  
Pero yung hindi nakakatanggap na karamihan, ay yun ang pinuputakti tayo.

**[03:40:40.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004535)  
Actually, Mr. Chairman, tama ho yun. Plus minus eh.

**[03:40:42.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004536)  
Kasi mas malaki yung minus than yung plus.

**[03:40:44.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004537)  
Kasi at the running rate of 11 million senior citizens, and we're only catering to 4.5 to 5,

**[03:40:49.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004538)  
that means yung 6 na milyon na hindi nakakatanggap,

**[03:40:51.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004539)  
minus dun sa lamang pahuyong hindi nakatanggap na galit.

**[03:40:55.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004540)  
At saka, ayoko naman lahat eh, pero marami sa ating mga kababayan,

**[03:40:59.500] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004541)  
katatanggap pa lang ng benepisyo,

**[03:41:01.760] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004542)  
ang susunod ay imbis sa magsabi ng maraming salamat sa Pangulo, sa DSWD,

**[03:41:07.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004543)  
ang kadalasan nadidinig ko eh, ano pa kaya susunod?

**[03:41:11.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004544)  
Diba? So, I really think that the program needs to be expanded.

**[03:41:16.400] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004545)  
So, there's an existing proposal here to have a reduced,

**[03:41:21.880] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004546)  
ah, amount for the new ones, meaning instead of 1,000 a month,

**[03:41:26.740] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004547)  
500 pesos a month lang so that the outlay becomes half.

**[03:41:30.400] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004548)  
And I think it's going to be more palatable and obviously it's going to be more affordable.

**[03:41:35.460] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004549)  
Sabi ko nga, Sek, imbis na dinadala sa kung ano-ano flood control, dito lang natin dalhin.

**[03:41:41.480] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004550)  
Kasi dito mas napapakinabangan pa ng tao.

**[03:41:43.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004551)  
Mr. Chairman, we agree 101% on both counts.

**[03:41:49.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004552)  
Half, but everybody.

**[03:41:50.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004553)  
And at the same time, yun nga, we put our money where we know na talagang direkto sa tao.

**[03:41:56.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004554)  
Huwag lang magalit ko si Sekvin sa akin.

**[03:41:59.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004555)  
Kasi that means a minus to his side.

**[03:42:02.100] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004556)  
Yeah, at the appropriate time, Mr. Chairman, we will move that more funding be given dito.

**[03:42:09.620] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004557)  
Kasi, you know, it's so hard to explain to our SSS and GSIS pensioners,

**[03:42:15.760] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004558)  
especially our SS pensioners who only get a pension of, on the average,

**[03:42:20.460] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004559)  
between

**[03:42:20.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004560)  
three to five thousand a month.

**[03:42:22.680] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004561)  
So, ang tingin talaga nila is bakit kami paparasahan na nagsipag kami.

**[03:42:27.900] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004562)  
For lack of a better explanation, is ang tingin nila is kami nagtrabaho,

**[03:42:32.340] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004563)  
o yung asawa namin nagtrabaho, kaya may survivor pension kami,

**[03:42:35.780] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004564)  
but we are automatically disqualified.

**[03:42:38.340] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004565)  
While itong kapitbahay namin na buong buhay niya ay walang kinontribute sa economy in terms of livelihood,

**[03:42:45.540] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004566)  
siya ay nari-rewardan when the source of the funds really come from,

**[03:42:50.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004567)  
taxpayers, including themselves,

**[03:42:53.000] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004568)  
especially since they had been paying compensation taxes during their entire working life.

**[03:42:58.620] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004569)  
So, ang hirap i-justify, eh.

**[03:43:00.780] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004570)  
And I think nadidiminish yung ganda ng programa.

**[03:43:05.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004571)  
Mr. Chair, we totally agree, and we're 101% behind that concept na huwag ipinalize yung mga may pension.

**[03:43:13.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004572)  
And sang-ayon ho kami.

**[03:43:15.360] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004573)  
At sana, Secretary, is we really move towards,

**[03:43:20.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004574)  
a more contactless electronic transfer.

**[03:43:25.800] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004575)  
Kasi, kawawa rin yung ating mga beneficiaries, kailangan pa i-biyahe,

**[03:43:30.340] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004576)  
especially mga senior citizens.

**[03:43:32.580] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004577)  
At wala naman akong pinapatunguhan o pinaparinggan,

**[03:43:37.280] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004578)  
pero gusto-gusto na ibang mga politiko na iniipon, eh.

**[03:43:41.260] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004579)  
Di ba, iniipon, magtatagal yung mga ating mga lolo't lola,

**[03:43:45.840] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004580)  
at nakikita mo, talagang they will have to hire tricycles to get to the venue,

**[03:43:50.120] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004581)  
They have to pay 150 pesos

**[03:43:50.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004582)  
one way, so 300 piso ka agad yun, di ba?

**[03:43:54.400] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004583)  
So, ang laking na ibabawas.

**[03:43:57.680] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004584)  
Sabi ko nga is, we need to keep pushing towards an electronic, more seamless distribution system.

**[03:44:05.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004585)  
Mr. Chairman, in fact, that move is already being done in the uplift assistance bucket 2.

**[03:44:12.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004586)  
Kanina na talakay ho namin na we're working with the BSP on banking the unbanked,

**[03:44:16.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004587)  
lalo na sa mahirap.

**[03:44:17.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004588)  
We saw in UPLIFT bucket number two, yung poor at near poor.

**[03:44:20.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004589)  
Yung poor, almost 80% are unbanked.

**[03:44:24.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004590)  
That's why what we did with the BSP is to get the banks and the e-wallets on site already.

**[03:44:28.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004591)  
So, pag-payout, nire-register na rin namin with the hopes of banking that 2.5 million na mga Pilipino na mahihirap at near poor na walang banko.

**[03:44:39.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004592)  
But we totally agree, Mr. Chairman.

**[03:44:42.080] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004593)  
I just hope that it will not also lead to delay, no?

**[03:44:45.540] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004594)  
Yung while there will be birth pains, meaning registration,

**[03:44:50.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004595)  
that will take time, but after that, baka pwedeng seamless na talaga.

**[03:44:56.040] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004596)  
They get it from Cebuana or they get it from their own.

**[03:45:00.000] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004597)  
electronic wallets.

**[03:45:01.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004597-split-2)  
Mr. Chair, we're gradually growing the database ng poor na walang banko, na walang bank. Yun nga yung sa UPLIFT bucket number two

**[03:45:11.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004598)  
with the hopes na on the third tranche, kasi napakaliit lang ho yung may bank account sa first tranche eh.

**[03:45:16.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004599)  
So hopefully lahat ng mga napapasok namin digital na sila, pero we need to grow it talaga.

**[03:45:22.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004600)  
Malayo pa ho tayo doon sa may mga bank accounts.

**[03:45:24.630] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004600-split-2)  
Okay, now that there are other warm bodies, I think it's time for me to wrap up.

**[03:45:31.310] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004601)  
Bawal ang dead air dito eh. This is the first time, guys, that there's dead air, that no one is actually lined

**[03:45:37.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004602)  
up. We just had something urgent in the other department. I'd rather have dead air than

**[03:45:42.030] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004603)  
having an emergency, no? Secretary, [unclear] problema. But anyway, your regional director is

**[03:45:52.110] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004604)  
in NCR, is Attorney MJ Lorico. I don't know if he's here. Is he here?

**[03:46:01.310] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004605)  
Asan ba si Attorney MJ? Naku, wala dito.

**[03:46:07.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004606)  
Nandito kanina. Asan na ba siya?

**[03:46:09.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004607)  
Oh.

**[03:46:11.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004608)  
RD, how are you? Ayan.

**[03:46:13.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004609)  
Anytime 'yan si RD pag tinatawagan mo,

**[03:46:15.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004610)  
te-text mo kaagad 'yan.

**[03:46:17.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004611)  
'Yung pagsagot mabilis din.

**[03:46:19.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004612)  
Ayan ha.

**[03:46:21.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004613)  
RD, maraming salamat ha.

**[03:46:23.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004614)  
Kalimutan mo na ibang mga city sa Marikina ha.

**[03:46:25.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004615)  
Sa NCR ha.

**[03:46:27.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004616)  
Unahin mong parati kami

**[03:46:29.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004617)  
dahil kami parating nasasalanta.

**[03:46:31.310] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004618)  
Okay. Maraming salamat, RD, sa buong DSWD family. Hindi ba kayo nagsasawa? Puro papuri. Dapat na yata i-terminate na ito eh. Mr. Chair, move to terminate. So anyway, maraming maraming salamat.

**[03:46:49.070] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004619)  
You're joined by very competent people.

**[03:46:51.150] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004620)  
[unclear] is here too.

**[03:46:53.150] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004621)  
So maraming maraming salamat.

**[03:46:55.150] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004622)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:46:57.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004622-split-2)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Congressman Quimbo.

**[03:46:59.150] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004623)  
Thank you, sir.

**[03:47:01.310] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004624)  
We now recognize Congressman Robert Nazal. So, if not around, we recognize

**[03:47:20.180] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004625)  
Congresswoman Girlie Veloso.

**[03:47:27.640] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004626)  
Maayong hapon sa atong tanan and to the DSWD family.

**[03:47:35.860] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004627)  
Saglit lang itong sa akin, Mr. Chair.

**[03:47:38.440] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004628)  
Gusto ko lang ipaabot yung pasasalamat ko kay Secretary Rex. I would like to commend the DSWD for remaining true to its mandate by helping ease the financial

**[03:47:56.300] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004629)  
burden of our patients through its presence in the malasakit centers whether for hospital bills

**[03:48:03.580] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004630)  
transportation

**[03:48:04.960] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004631)  
food or burial assistance the dswd has consistently been there for our hospital

**[03:48:13.840] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004632)  
and for our people i hope that a substantial portion of your funds will be made readily

**[03:48:20.820] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004633)  
available for ds to dswd representatives inside hospitals so patients and their families will no

**[03:48:31.080] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004634)  
longer need to leave the hospital to seek assistance

**[03:48:34.960] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004635)  
and in that way also um

**[03:48:38.340] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004636)  
para wala nang out-of-pocket, o hindi na lalabas si patient,

**[03:48:40.660] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004637)  
at ito'y magko-complement din ng ating universal health care. Ideally, the assistance should be processed efficiently and automatically

**[03:48:52.720] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004638)  
deducted from the patient's hospital bill making government support truly accessible seamless and

**[03:49:00.380] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004639)  
compassionate.

**[03:49:02.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004639-split-2)  
Rest assured, Mr. Chairman, that we will make sure that the DSWD representatives are

**[03:49:04.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004640)  
responsible for ensuring that those notions are followed and practiced already pursuant to the joint memo circular and the law that prescribes the institution of Malasakit Centers.

**[03:49:17.270] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004640-split-2)  
Yes, thank you. Thank you very much for that, Secretary Rex. And with that, Mr. Chair, I would like to manifest my full support for the proposed budget of the DSWD.

**[03:49:29.960] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004641)  
especially its medical assistance program.

**[03:49:33.560] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004642)  
I sincerely hope that all qualified referrals, particularly those endorsed by this representation,

**[03:49:41.440] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004643)  
will be approved in accordance with existing guidelines.

**[03:49:45.120] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004644)  
Salamat kaayo, Secretary Rex, and to DSWD and to our RD in Region 7, RD Loero. Daghang salamat.

**[03:49:54.080] Rep. Girlie E. Veloso** (asr-004645)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:49:54.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004645-split-2)  
Thank you, Madam Congresswoman.

**[03:49:56.940] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004646)  
Thank you. Thank you, Cong Girlie.

**[03:50:02.420] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004647)  
We recognize Cong. Eulogio Rodriguez.

**[03:50:07.300] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004648)  
Hello.

**[03:50:09.400] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004649)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:50:14.660] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004650)  
To our DSWD family, God bless you.

**[03:50:20.080] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004651)  
Good afternoon, everyone.

**[03:50:23.420] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004652)  
Earlier, I was here.

**[03:50:25.660] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004653)  
Almost all the questions were answered by our good Secretary.

**[03:50:29.820] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004654)  
We are satisfied with the answers he gave us.

**[03:50:35.060] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004655)  
Kaya natutuwa tayo at natugunan ang mga pangangailangan ng ating mga kababayan

**[03:50:42.540] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004656)  
ng ating masipag at walang pagod na Secretary.

**[03:50:46.940] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004657)  
Kaya, Mr. Chair, nais nating ipahayag ang buong suporta

**[03:50:56.900] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004658)  
sa budget ng DSWD at mga attached agencies nito,

**[03:51:00.950] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004659)  
at maging sa karagdagang pondo

**[03:51:03.430] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004660)  
kung kinakailangan.

**[03:51:06.470] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004661)  
Nakikita po natin na malaking tulong

**[03:51:09.390] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004662)  
ang mga programa ng departamento

**[03:51:12.230] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004663)  
para sa ating mga kababayan,

**[03:51:13.600] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004664)  
sa mga bata, senior citizens,

**[03:51:14.830] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004665)  
pamilyang apektado ng kalamidad,

**[03:51:17.190] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004666)  
lalo na po sa amin sa Catanduanes

**[03:51:21.070] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004667)  
na palagi kaming tinatamaan,

**[03:51:24.190] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004668)  
at iba pang pangangailangan ng mga sektor.

**[03:51:26.150] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004669)  
Kaya kung kinakailangan nating dagdagan

**[03:51:28.950] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004670)  
ang resources upang mapalakas,

**[03:51:31.790] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004671)  
mapalawak ang mga programa nito,

**[03:51:34.200] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004672)  
handa po tayong

**[03:51:36.670] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004673)  
sumuporta diyan.

**[03:51:38.870] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004674)  
At pinamumunuan ang departamentong ito

**[03:51:41.630] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004675)  
ng isang magaling at masipag na

**[03:51:46.830] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004676)  
Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[03:51:50.300] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004677)  
Maraming salamat po, Sec, hindi mo kinakalimutan ang Catanduanes at natutugunan ang pangangailangan namin doon.

**[03:51:57.350] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004678)  
Maraming salamat po, may full support po sa budget ng DSWD.

**[03:51:59.960] Rep. Eulogio "Leo" R. Rodriguez** (asr-004679)  
Diyos mabalos. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:52:00.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004679-split-2)  
Thank you, Congressman Rodriguez. And we'll make sure na tuloy-tuloy ho tayo sa Catanduanes.

**[03:52:06.000] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004679-split-3)  
So we now recognize Cong Roy Loyola.

**[03:52:29.000] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004680)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Actually, Mr. Chair, I have no question on the budget of the DSWD. But I have to do this because I believe the DSWD deserves my full support and, if our fiscal condition permits, I strongly support an increase in its budget.

**[03:52:53.010] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004681)  
The responsibility of the DSWD is enormous.

**[03:52:56.430] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004682)  
During typhoons, flood, fire, earthquakes and other disaster, DSWD is among the first agency.

**[03:53:06.790] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004683)  
Our people turn to.

**[03:53:09.630] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004684)  
But its responsibility goes far beyond disaster response.

**[03:53:14.350] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004685)  
Every day, it's aid for families, senior citizens, PWDs, children and other vulnerable sectors of our society.

**[03:53:24.570] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004686)  
I particularly wish to emphasize the importance of the LAWA and BINHI program.

**[03:53:31.850] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004687)  
What I appreciate about LAWA and BINHI is that it goes beyond.

**[03:53:36.790] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004688)  
It gives our people an opportunity to work, become productive and strengthen their ability to provide to their families.

**[03:53:47.790] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004689)  
Programs like LAWA and BINHI represent the direction we should pursue in social protection.

**[03:53:55.790] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004690)  
From ayuda toward empowerment, from temporal resistance toward sustainable livelihood and greater self-reliance.

**[03:54:05.850] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004691)  
from temporary assistance toward sustainable livelihood and greater self-reliance.

**[03:54:07.250] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004692)  
I would like to thank Director Isabel Laniada for providing LAWA and BINHI to my constituent in the fifth district of Cavite.

**[03:54:21.590] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004693)  
Mr. Secretary, it's really very successful.

**[03:54:24.270] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004694)  
It's not only develop camaraderie but also cooperation among the members of this LAWA and BINHI program.

**[03:54:33.870] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004695)  
I have personally seen how programs like this

**[03:54:37.890] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004700)  
can make a difference in our communities.

**[03:54:42.010] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004701)  
And I believe that with additional funding, Lawa at Binhig can reach many more poor and

**[03:54:48.610] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004702)  
vulnerable Filipino families.

**[03:54:52.130] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004703)  
I also wish to commend our dear Secretary Rex Gatchalian for his leadership of the department.

**[03:55:01.010] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004704)  
While the cabinet members of President Ferdinand Bombo Marcos, Jr. are performing their respective

**[03:55:08.130] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004705)  
responsibilities, Secretary Rex has consistently received a very high public performance rating

**[03:55:17.010] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004706)  
and has been ranked among the administration's top performing cabinet.

**[03:55:21.610] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004707)  
We are very lucky, napakaswerte ng ating mamamayan sa pagkakaroon ng isang Secretary

**[03:55:30.970] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004709)  
na may karanasan, may alam at natutugunan

**[03:55:39.010] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004710)  
ng mga pangangailangan ng marami nating kababayan.

**[03:55:44.810] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004712)  
But this recognition also belongs to the thousands

**[03:55:48.370] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004713)  
of DSWD personnel and social workers who bring

**[03:55:52.970] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004714)  
government assistance directly to our people.

**[03:55:56.330] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004715)  
Mr. Chair, we cannot give DSWD enormous

**[03:56:00.730] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004716)  
responsibilities without giving it adequate resources. If we want programs such

**[03:56:09.610] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004717)  
as LAWA at BINHI to reach more communities, if we want faster assistance during calamities

**[03:56:17.130] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004718)  
and if we want swd to continue responding to the everyday needs of our poorest countrymen

**[03:56:25.210] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004719)  
then we must provide the department with the necessary budget

**[03:56:31.290] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004720)  
for this reason i strongly support the proposed budget of the dswd and if funds

**[03:56:38.810] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004721)  
are available, I respectfully ask this committee to increase it, particularly

**[03:56:45.770] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004722)  
for programs like LAWA at BINHI that do not merely provide assistance but give our people

**[03:56:53.530] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004723)  
the opportunity to help themselves and build a better future maran salama secretary rex

**[03:57:00.730] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004724)  
and to your family

**[03:57:03.770] Rep. Roy M. Loyola** (asr-004725)  
That will be all, Mr. Chairman.

**[03:57:04.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004725-split-2)  
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to thank the good Congressman Roy Loyola

**[03:57:08.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004726)  
for the kind words

**[03:57:14.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004727)  
Maraming salamat, Congressman, for the kind words. The department and the team

**[03:57:17.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004728)  
truly appreciates the the the uh acknowledgement of the hard work that they put in day in and day

**[03:57:23.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004729)  
out. Maraming salamat.

**[03:57:25.100] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004729-split-2)  
Thank you, Cong Roy. We now recognize

**[03:57:29.370] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-004730)  
Cong Robert Nazal.

**[03:57:30.730] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004731)  
thank you mr chair um good afternoon to the dswd good afternoon secrex good afternoon

**[03:57:38.970] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004732)  
to the sabung dswd family mr chair first i would like to thank uh secrex and the dswd for your

**[03:57:48.330] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004733)  
prompt response in assisting families affected by the disasters. Ongoing pa rin po siya

**[03:57:52.330] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004734)  
at alam ko pong medyo

**[03:57:57.770] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004735)  
nasa isang tabi natin iyon

**[03:57:58.730] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004736)  
at ongoing pa rin ang mga disasters ngayon.

**[03:57:59.370] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004737)  
I particularly want to commend your teams in NCR, Region 3, Region 4A, and Region 4B Mimaropa. Napaka-efficient po ng response ninyo sa relief goods, and we have personally seen how quickly assistance reaches our communities when it is needed. We also congratulate DSWD on the accomplishments of 4Ps, including the reported 1.77 million

**[03:58:24.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004738)  
households that have graduated to

**[03:58:26.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004739)  
self-sufficiency.

**[03:58:28.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004740)  
Congratulations

**[03:58:29.270] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004741)  
po

**[03:58:29.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004742)  
sa inyo.

**[03:58:30.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004743)  
So, Secretary,

**[03:58:31.750] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004744)  
our questions today are really in the spirit of

**[03:58:35.210] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004745)  
identifying where congress can help you further improve and expand these services

**[03:58:42.330] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004746)  
so mr chair may we may we request the good secretary uh for a dswd certified list by region

**[03:58:52.410] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004747)  
of solo parents who are for peace members identifying those with children or dependents

**[03:59:01.450] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004748)  
in or entering college so we can help them access

**[03:59:13.690] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004749)  
may this be provided to our office um

**[03:59:21.290] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004750)  
and mr chair

**[03:59:23.130] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004751)  
i would like to ask has dswd already matched these families with ched unifast and how many

**[03:59:29.610] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004752)  
eligible students are actually receiving the subsidy as of today

**[03:59:34.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004752-split-2)  
chairman first of all thank

**[03:59:36.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004753)  
you congressman nasal for the acknowledgement of the hard work of the department especially the

**[03:59:40.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004754)  
regions that you mentioned second mr chairman we will gladly furnish the good congressman and the

**[03:59:45.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004755)  
committee the said list of solo parents who are for peace with children going into college or

**[03:59:52.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004756)  
we will furnish that immediately in the next 48 24 to 48 hours the

**[03:59:57.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004757)  
handling asset is already ready and we will

**[04:00:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004758)  
furnishing the committee and your office

**[04:00:02.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004759)  
separately. Now, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:00:04.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004760)  
Mr. Chairman, while we're

**[04:00:11.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004761)  
getting the data, I want to just

**[04:00:13.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004762)  
put on record the process flow that

**[04:00:15.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004763)  
goes through it.

**[04:00:18.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004764)  
Initially, in the

**[04:00:20.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004765)  
administration of the past

**[04:00:21.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004766)  
CHED Commissioner

**[04:00:23.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004767)  
or Chairman,

**[04:00:25.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004768)  
there were so many talks

**[04:00:27.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004769)  
about prioritization

**[04:00:29.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004770)  
of 4Ps to include

**[04:00:31.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004771)  
the solo parents na 4Ps.

**[04:00:33.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004772)  
Unfortunately, hindi ko kami napaprioritize

**[04:00:35.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004773)  
nun. In fact, in the last Congress,

**[04:00:37.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004774)  
multiple congressional hearings were done.

**[04:00:39.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004775)  
You know, Congressman Daza,

**[04:00:41.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004776)  
Congressman Abalos, and we kept on

**[04:00:43.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004777)  
telling the CHED

**[04:00:44.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004778)  
form, then CHED

**[04:00:47.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004779)  
Chairman, to please prioritize

**[04:00:49.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004780)  
not just the 4Ps, but the most

**[04:00:51.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004781)  
vulnerable 4Ps. Kasi, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:00:54.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004782)  
meron tayong

**[04:00:54.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004783)  
sub-list sa loob ng 4Ps.

**[04:00:57.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004784)  
These are yung, ano yung tawag

**[04:00:59.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004785)  
doon yung may double vulnerabilities?

**[04:01:01.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004786)  
Yung dating muna sa ESAP period.

**[04:01:03.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004787)  
Anyways, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:01:06.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004788)  
kumaga yung 4Ps,

**[04:01:07.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004789)  
vulnerable na sila, pero yung subset

**[04:01:09.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004790)  
niyan, yung mga mas vulnerable pa,

**[04:01:11.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004791)  
yung solo parents, indigenous

**[04:01:13.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004792)  
people, people with disability,

**[04:01:16.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004793)  
yung multiple

**[04:01:17.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004794)  
vulnerabilities. So,

**[04:01:19.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004795)  
kinukulit namin sila dati, and hindi nila

**[04:01:21.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004796)  
napaprioritize. Now, what we

**[04:01:23.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004797)  
did with the new chairman, and you can

**[04:01:25.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004798)  
check with her, automatically

**[04:01:27.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004799)  
we would transmit the list.

**[04:01:29.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004800)  
Kompleto po yun.

**[04:01:31.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004801)  
Whether or not they're prioritized,

**[04:01:33.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004802)  
yun ang... Hindi nyo na alam.

**[04:01:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004803)  
Hindi sa hindi nyo alam.

**[04:01:36.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004804)  
How do I put this nicely?

**[04:01:39.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004805)  
Hindi. So, yun.

**[04:01:41.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004806)  
In fact, numerous meetings

**[04:01:43.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004807)  
we've done with CHED

**[04:01:45.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004808)  
to tell them na dapat pinaprioritize

**[04:01:47.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004809)  
to. But, we'd like to thank

**[04:01:49.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004810)  
Congress with the new amendment on the TES

**[04:01:51.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004811)  
that was just signed

**[04:01:53.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004812)  
recently, na talagang

**[04:01:55.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004813)  
categorically sinasabi, una

**[04:01:57.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004814)  
talaga dapat yung 4Ps

**[04:01:59.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004815)  
doon sa TES.

**[04:02:01.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004816)  
Now, for the data, Mr. Chair,

**[04:02:03.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004817)  
for 2026, we

**[04:02:05.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004818)  
transmitted a total of

**[04:02:07.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004819)  
490,000

**[04:02:09.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004820)  
4Ps

**[04:02:11.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004821)  
monitored children who are college

**[04:02:13.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004822)  
bound, or nasa loob na to

**[04:02:15.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004823)  
yung iba. Papunta pa lang po to

**[04:02:17.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004824)  
sa koleyo, iba pa yung nasa loob na.

**[04:02:20.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004825)  
Nandito, napapaloob

**[04:02:22.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004826)  
dito yung subset na hinahanap

**[04:02:23.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004827)  
nyo yung solo parent, which we will carve out

**[04:02:25.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004828)  
and send to your office.

**[04:02:27.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004829)  
For 2027, another

**[04:02:29.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004830)  
354,000

**[04:02:31.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004831)  
na sinabmit na namin.

**[04:02:33.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004832)  
And hopefully, with the new

**[04:02:35.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004833)  
the new provisions of the

**[04:02:39.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004834)  
TES law, dapat mauna

**[04:02:41.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004835)  
talaga sila dahil it will

**[04:02:43.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004836)  
complete the spectrum of breaking

**[04:02:45.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004837)  
intergenerational poverty.

**[04:02:48.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004838)  
Sa ngayon po, we don't have the

**[04:02:49.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004839)  
data yet on how many the solo parents are.

**[04:02:51.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004840)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[04:02:52.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004841)  
No, no.

**[04:02:56.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004842)  
Household to.

**[04:02:58.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004843)  
Walang bata. We have the household

**[04:02:59.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004844)  
but not the number of monitored children.

**[04:03:01.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004845)  
We need the end of the media.

**[04:03:03.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004846)  
Meeting to send it to you.

**[04:03:05.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004847)  
Sa loob ng 4Ps, ang total

**[04:03:07.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004848)  
solo parent catchment is

**[04:03:09.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004849)  
132,451.

**[04:03:13.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004850)  
So sa

**[04:03:13.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004851)  
3.5 natin na milyon na

**[04:03:15.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004852)  
actually ngayon, 3 milyon pa lang

**[04:03:17.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004853)  
naman ho eh. 3 milyon,

**[04:03:18.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004854)  
1, 3, 2, 4, 5, 1

**[04:03:21.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004855)  
ang solo parents.

**[04:03:23.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004856)  
1, 3, 2, 4, 5, 1

**[04:03:25.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004857)  
households. Led by solo

**[04:03:27.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004858)  
parents. That are part of 4Ps.

**[04:03:29.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004859)  
Yes. Thank you. Thank you for that.

**[04:03:31.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004860)  
But we will send you the names and the list

**[04:03:33.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004861)  
of the children nila

**[04:03:35.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004862)  
na college bound.

**[04:03:38.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004863)  
Salamat po.

**[04:03:41.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004864)  
My next question, Mr. Chair

**[04:03:43.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004865)  
is

**[04:03:43.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004866)  
AICS achieved a 93.8%

**[04:03:48.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004867)  
disbursement rate

**[04:03:49.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004868)  
in 2025

**[04:03:50.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004869)  
with about 3.65 billion

**[04:03:53.620] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004870)  
undisbursed at

**[04:03:55.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004871)  
year end. But its budget

**[04:03:57.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004872)  
drops from

**[04:03:58.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004873)  
63.9 billion in

**[04:04:01.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004874)  
2026 to around

**[04:04:03.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004875)  
33.3 billion

**[04:04:05.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004876)  
in 2027.

**[04:04:07.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004877)  
Magkano po ba yung

**[04:04:08.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004878)  
regular na AICS

**[04:04:11.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004879)  
dun? Tapos magkano po yung

**[04:04:13.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004880)  
napunta sa uplift?

**[04:04:15.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004881)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[04:04:17.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004882)  
at the current rate right

**[04:04:19.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004883)  
now, yung 2025,

**[04:04:21.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004884)  
ubus na ho yun. Na fully disbursed

**[04:04:23.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004885)  
as of last year. In fact, we

**[04:04:25.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004886)  
got augmentation pa. The 2025?

**[04:04:27.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004887)  
Yes. Every year,

**[04:04:29.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004888)  
wala naman ho natitira dyan.

**[04:04:31.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004889)  
Talagang na-augment pa yan

**[04:04:32.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004890)  
ng UA nun, ng program.

**[04:04:35.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004891)  
Now, this year, as of July,

**[04:04:37.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004892)  
we've already disbursed this amount

**[04:04:39.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004893)  
around 70%.

**[04:04:40.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004894)  
Around 70% of the

**[04:04:43.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004895)  
total fund, of which

**[04:04:45.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004896)  
right now, 10 billion, close

**[04:04:47.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004897)  
to ang uplift is around

**[04:04:49.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004898)  
10 billion pesos.

**[04:04:51.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004899)  
Roughly 10 billion pesos

**[04:04:53.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004900)  
nang na-disbursed.

**[04:04:55.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004901)  
But right now, ongoing pa rin yung

**[04:04:57.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004902)  
uplift assistance. So, we're

**[04:04:59.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004903)  
still drawing, but at the same time

**[04:05:01.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004904)  
we're getting augmentation also. Kasi

**[04:05:03.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004905)  
we don't want to be cannibalized.

**[04:05:05.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004906)  
Yung regular operation ng AICS.

**[04:05:07.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004907)  
Yes, exactly. So,

**[04:05:09.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004908)  
why the drop po from?

**[04:05:12.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004909)  
This, Mr.

**[04:05:13.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004910)  
Chair, as practice,

**[04:05:15.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004911)  
every single item introduced

**[04:05:17.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004912)  
in Congress or the Senate

**[04:05:19.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004913)  
is removed from the NEP

**[04:05:20.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004914)  
when it's

**[04:05:23.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004915)  
published. So, ang inalist

**[04:05:25.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004916)  
na 30 billion, yan ho yung introduced

**[04:05:27.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004917)  
during your process of

**[04:05:29.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004918)  
amendments and the BARC.

**[04:05:31.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004919)  
Okay.

**[04:05:32.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004920)  
So, hindi naman po ma-apektuhan yung

**[04:05:37.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004921)  
regular. Mr. Chairman,

**[04:05:39.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004922)  
hindi ma-apektuhan this year

**[04:05:41.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004923)  
kasi we're getting augmentation

**[04:05:43.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004924)  
already. Pero, if we can

**[04:05:45.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004925)  
pull out the slide that we showed a while ago,

**[04:05:47.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004926)  
pag hindi ma-restore yung

**[04:05:48.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004927)  
amount na yan, around 4 million

**[04:05:51.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004928)  
family individuals will be

**[04:05:53.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004929)  
displaced. That's why we have

**[04:05:54.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004930)  
been pleading with Congress and later

**[04:05:57.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004931)  
on in the Senate na sana ma-restore

**[04:05:58.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004932)  
or else we'll be turning away 4 million

**[04:06:00.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004933)  
individuals in dire need of social welfare.

**[04:06:03.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004934)  
So, I urge

**[04:06:04.430] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004935)  
our colleagues in Congress na dapat

**[04:06:06.990] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004936)  
po i-restore po yan.

**[04:06:08.690] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004937)  
Hindi po dapat galawin.

**[04:06:10.330] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004938)  
Sana ibalik ko.

**[04:06:12.230] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004939)  
So, my next question,

**[04:06:16.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004940)  
Mr. Chair, Mr.

**[04:06:18.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004941)  
Secretary, may we also

**[04:06:23.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004942)  
ask about the implementation of the

**[04:06:25.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004943)  
Expanded Solo Parents Welfare Act?

**[04:06:27.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004944)  
What is the status of

**[04:06:28.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004945)  
compliance of our LGUs nationwide?

**[04:06:32.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004946)  
Ilan po ang

**[04:06:32.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004947)  
nag-implement na nung

**[04:06:35.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004948)  
batas and how many are not yet

**[04:06:37.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004949)  
compliant? Kasi po

**[04:06:39.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004950)  
kayo po ang lead agency pagdating sa

**[04:06:41.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004951)  
pag-implement nung Solo Parents

**[04:06:43.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004952)  
Welfare Act?

**[04:06:44.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004953)  
Mr. Chair, of a total of

**[04:06:46.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004954)  
1,658 LGUs, only

**[04:06:49.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004955)  
478 are

**[04:06:51.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004956)  
implementing the various subsidies

**[04:06:53.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004957)  
prescribed by law. Now, when we

**[04:06:55.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004958)  
ask and follow up with the LGUs,

**[04:06:57.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004959)  
ang laging nasasabi is fund

**[04:06:59.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004960)  
availability. Wala ho silang pondo

**[04:07:01.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004961)  
and these are normally small LGUs.

**[04:07:04.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004962)  
Is there

**[04:07:05.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004963)  
no way of finding out whether

**[04:07:07.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004964)  
this is really

**[04:07:08.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004965)  
accurate?

**[04:07:11.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004966)  
Paano po muna natin sila matutulungan

**[04:07:13.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004967)  
para ma-implement yung batas?

**[04:07:16.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004968)  
Mr. Chairman, every time

**[04:07:17.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004969)  
we speak with the

**[04:07:19.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004970)  
focal individuals

**[04:07:21.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004971)  
normally the CSWDO,

**[04:07:24.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004972)  
ang sagot nila lagi sa amin is

**[04:07:25.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004973)  
lack of funds. At tulad na

**[04:07:27.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004974)  
nabanggit ko, karamihan sa mga nagko-comply

**[04:07:29.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004975)  
are the bigger LGUs, the bigger

**[04:07:31.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004976)  
cities or the bigger provinces.

**[04:07:34.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004977)  
Ang mga hindi nagko-comply yung maliliit

**[04:07:35.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004978)  
talaga nating mga LGU dahil

**[04:07:36.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004979)  
I'd like to think hindi naman dahil ayaw nila

**[04:07:39.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004980)  
ba talagang kulang lang sa pondo?

**[04:07:41.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004981)  
And pag tinanong namin sila ano ang

**[04:07:43.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004982)  
maitutulong, syempre ang hingin nila pabalik

**[04:07:45.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004983)  
is subsidy from the national government.

**[04:07:48.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004984)  
How about on the ID?

**[04:07:50.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004985)  
On the

**[04:07:50.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-004986)  
Unified Solo Parent ID? Any updates po?

**[04:07:53.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004987)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[04:07:54.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004988)  
that is something that we're still working on

**[04:07:57.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004989)  
unbeatedly because tulad na na sinabi namin

**[04:07:59.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004990)  
naka-ankla ho kasi yan doon sa implementation

**[04:08:01.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004991)  
naman ng Unified PWD ID

**[04:08:03.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004992)  
which served as its test case.

**[04:08:05.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004993)  
Meron ho kaming database. We normally

**[04:08:07.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004994)  
update the database that we collate from the

**[04:08:09.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004995)  
LGUs. Pero as mentioned,

**[04:08:11.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004996)  
a while ago, we have

**[04:08:13.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004997)  
yet to fully roll this out because

**[04:08:15.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004998)  
the implementing, the

**[04:08:17.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004999)  
PIDAUs are the ones issuing the

**[04:08:19.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005000)  
solo parent IDs.

**[04:08:22.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005001)  
Sorry, the PIDAUs

**[04:08:23.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005002)  
for the people with disability and then the

**[04:08:25.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005003)  
respective CSWDs for their solo IDs.

**[04:08:28.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005004)  
But there is a, as mentioned in a

**[04:08:29.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005005)  
couple of meetings with the good congressman,

**[04:08:31.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005006)  
talagang ang direction without violating

**[04:08:33.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005007)  
the laws kasi meron ho talagang

**[04:08:35.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005008)  
implementing agency that social welfare is

**[04:08:37.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005009)  
devolved. We're trying to find that

**[04:08:39.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005010)  
agreement na kami ang mag-issue

**[04:08:41.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005011)  
ng Unified ID without violating

**[04:08:43.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005012)  
any provisions stipulated

**[04:08:45.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005013)  
in the devolution of social

**[04:08:47.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005014)  
welfare.

**[04:08:49.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005015)  
Because, syempre ho,

**[04:08:51.140] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005016)  
napag-usapan naman natin, naiintindihan

**[04:08:53.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005017)  
nyo naman po na a Unified

**[04:08:55.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005018)  
ID is actually best for the

**[04:08:57.240] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005019)  
solo parents given this case.

**[04:08:59.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005020)  
Kasi, for example, yung

**[04:09:01.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005021)  
if we have a unified system,

**[04:09:05.740] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005022)  
yung benefits including the test,

**[04:09:07.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005023)  
mas madali hong magkaroon ng validation.

**[04:09:10.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005024)  
Hindi po ba?

**[04:09:11.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005025)  
We agree, Mr. Chairman, kami

**[04:09:13.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005026)  
naniniwala ho kami sa panukala na yon.

**[04:09:16.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005027)  
Sinisigurado lang ho namin na hindi

**[04:09:18.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005028)  
counterintuitive yung ginagawa namin

**[04:09:20.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005029)  
kasi, syempre, we will

**[04:09:22.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005030)  
encounter yung mga komento na

**[04:09:24.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005031)  
pabaliktad yung ginagawa namin

**[04:09:26.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005032)  
from devolution to

**[04:09:28.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005033)  
pabalik to national government. So, we're

**[04:09:30.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005034)  
very careful kasi may mga prescription

**[04:09:31.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005035)  
like sino ang signatory

**[04:09:34.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005036)  
ng ID. Those

**[04:09:36.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005037)  
things matter kasi the issuing body

**[04:09:37.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005038)  
matters. But, we totally agree, Mr.

**[04:09:40.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005039)  
Chairman.

**[04:09:41.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005040)  
Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary, ano po

**[04:09:43.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005041)  
ang naiisip natin with regards

**[04:09:45.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005042)  
to the solo parents? Dun po sa

**[04:09:47.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005043)  
pag-implement ng batas?

**[04:09:50.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005044)  
Is there any

**[04:09:51.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005045)  
meron po ba tayo naiisip

**[04:09:54.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005046)  
na solusyon kung paano

**[04:09:56.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005047)  
natin matutulungan yung mga

**[04:09:57.460] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005048)  
LGUs na hindi po nagkukumplay?

**[04:10:01.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005049)  
It's a functionality

**[04:10:02.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005050)  
again, Mr. Chairman, of how much money

**[04:10:04.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005051)  
the national government can spare for this

**[04:10:05.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005052)  
endeavor.

**[04:10:08.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005053)  
Have we thought of any proposal?

**[04:10:10.360] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005054)  
Do we have any

**[04:10:11.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005055)  
anything in mind

**[04:10:14.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005056)  
to be able to implement.

**[04:10:16.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005057)  
Ang lagi ko sinasabi, ang pattern

**[04:10:17.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005058)  
kasi niyan, yung people with disability, sorry,

**[04:10:20.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005059)  
yung senior citizen.

**[04:10:22.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005060)  
It's a mandate na prescribed

**[04:10:23.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005061)  
by law, not based on fund availability.

**[04:10:26.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005062)  
Nga, dapat eh. But even that,

**[04:10:28.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005063)  
as mentioned a while ago, talagang kalahati

**[04:10:29.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005064)  
lang na napopondohan ng pamalang nasyonal.

**[04:10:32.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005065)  
So we still get, as we discussed

**[04:10:34.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005066)  
kanyang, we get all these issues na

**[04:10:35.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005067)  
feeling talaga nila, pinipili sila.

**[04:10:38.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005068)  
The only solution

**[04:10:42.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005069)  
that we can think of to equalize

**[04:10:44.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005070)  
the treatment of our solo parents is to

**[04:10:46.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005071)  
really, for national government to step in.

**[04:10:48.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005072)  
But whether or not we have the fiscal

**[04:10:49.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005073)  
capacity to do that is what is scarier.

**[04:10:53.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005074)  
Meron ho tayong batas,

**[04:10:54.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005075)  
nandiyan na yung batas, even on identifying

**[04:10:56.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005076)  
the categories and when they exit

**[04:10:58.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005077)  
out of the category, malino naman ho yung batas eh.

**[04:11:00.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005078)  
Pero ang next na tanong lang is

**[04:11:02.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005079)  
the funding mechanism for it.

**[04:11:04.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005080)  
Baka lang ho we can come up with a plan

**[04:11:06.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005081)  
or a proposal. Just

**[04:11:07.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005082)  
to be able to implement

**[04:11:10.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005083)  
the program. And gladly, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:11:12.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005084)  
we will submit to the committee and the good

**[04:11:14.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005085)  
congressman a proposed idea or

**[04:11:16.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005086)  
a concept paper for the full implementation

**[04:11:18.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005087)  
of the solo parent law.

**[04:11:19.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005088)  
Thank you for that, Mr. Chair.

**[04:11:21.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005089)  
My next question is on the SLP.

**[04:11:24.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005090)  
Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary,

**[04:11:26.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005091)  
we continue to receive complaints

**[04:11:28.260] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005092)  
that processing

**[04:11:30.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005093)  
takes a very long time.

**[04:11:32.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005094)  
For someone who needs a livelihood,

**[04:11:34.660] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005095)  
waiting months defeats the purpose

**[04:11:36.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005096)  
of the assistance.

**[04:11:37.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005097)  
So, my question is,

**[04:11:40.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005098)  
Mr. Chair, from complete application

**[04:11:42.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005099)  
to actual assistance,

**[04:11:44.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005100)  
what is your present average

**[04:11:46.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005101)  
processing time?

**[04:11:48.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005102)  
And can DSWD establish

**[04:11:50.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005103)  
a definite turnaround time?

**[04:11:51.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005104)  
Mr. Chairman, it's only 22 days and we will

**[04:11:53.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005105)  
gladly submit to you case studies of the

**[04:11:56.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005106)  
cases that we've done 22 days.

**[04:11:58.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005107)  
Anam nyo, Mr. Chairman, and I'd like to

**[04:12:00.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005108)  
put this on record. Minsan ho kasi

**[04:12:01.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005109)  
pinipilit ng ibang group na qualified

**[04:12:04.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005110)  
sila pero hindi naman ho sila nag-qualify.

**[04:12:06.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005111)  
That's where the miscommunication,

**[04:12:07.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005112)  
communications takes place.

**[04:12:10.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005113)  
A while ago, nabanggit ho namin na

**[04:12:11.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005114)  
the most successful groups are those that really

**[04:12:14.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005115)  
comply with the requirements. In fact, we've

**[04:12:16.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005116)  
streamlined this from a long

**[04:12:18.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005117)  
six-month period. Now, it's down

**[04:12:20.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005118)  
to 22 days. As long

**[04:12:21.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005119)  
as, one, you qualify

**[04:12:23.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005120)  
and number two,

**[04:12:25.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005121)  
kompleto yung mga requirements na sinasubmit

**[04:12:27.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005122)  
as in most of our programs.

**[04:12:30.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005123)  
Thank you for that,

**[04:12:32.060] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005124)  
Mr. Chair. We'll also submit

**[04:12:34.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005125)  
a list of complaints to you.

**[04:12:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005126)  
Yes, if you can give it to us so that we can

**[04:12:37.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005127)  
research it one by one and we can get back

**[04:12:39.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005128)  
to you on the sources why tumagal

**[04:12:41.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005129)  
sila. If you can hand it,

**[04:12:43.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005130)  
the Undersecretary for Legislative

**[04:12:46.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005131)  
Affairs is here. She will personally

**[04:12:47.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005132)  
hand it to me for us to look into it.

**[04:12:50.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005133)  
And, Mr.

**[04:12:52.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005134)  
Secretary, Mr. Chair,

**[04:12:54.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005135)  
can we also explore a different

**[04:12:55.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005136)  
model? Instead of giving

**[04:12:57.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005137)  
beneficiaries cash,

**[04:12:59.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005138)  
sa SLP po ito, and asking

**[04:13:01.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005139)  
them to start a business from scratch,

**[04:13:04.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005140)  
Can DSWD, would it

**[04:13:05.900] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005141)  
be possible for DSWD

**[04:13:07.300] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005147)  
to partner

**[04:13:08.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005148)  
with legitimate franchise or

**[04:13:10.200] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005149)  
established business operators?

**[04:13:12.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005150)  
For qualified beneficiaries

**[04:13:14.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005151)  
who choose that option,

**[04:13:16.420] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005152)  
could DSWD issue a guarantee

**[04:13:18.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005153)  
letter or similar direct payment

**[04:13:20.340] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005154)  
arrangement to the

**[04:13:22.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005155)  
accredited business so that

**[04:13:24.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005156)  
the beneficiary receives an actual

**[04:13:26.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005157)  
livelihood package or operating

**[04:13:28.400] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005158)  
business rather than cash?

**[04:13:30.440] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005159)  
Parang pag nag-job fair po tayo,

**[04:13:32.380] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005160)  
may mga, or SLP

**[04:13:34.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005161)  
fair, mayroon na pong

**[04:13:36.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005162)  
mga franchise doon, tapos pwede po

**[04:13:38.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005163)  
silang pumili.

**[04:13:40.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005164)  
Mr. Chairman, it's a good idea.

**[04:13:43.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005165)  
Nung pumasok ko sa departamento,

**[04:13:45.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005166)  
I had the same notion with all our programs.

**[04:13:47.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005167)  
But after four and a half years

**[04:13:48.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005168)  
in the department, I've

**[04:13:49.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005169)  
realized that the

**[04:13:52.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005170)  
core competency ng DSWD,

**[04:13:55.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005171)  
to be honest, is not the cash we give out.

**[04:13:57.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005172)  
It's the dignity and

**[04:13:58.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005173)  
empowerment that we teach our people.

**[04:14:02.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005174)  
Priceless, ako, I've been going around talking

**[04:14:04.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005175)  
to SLP groups, priceless yung

**[04:14:06.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005176)  
pagbigihin nila. Natutunan namin

**[04:14:08.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005177)  
magnegosyo at sinunod nyo yung gusto

**[04:14:10.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005178)  
namin rather than sinubu nyo sa amin.

**[04:14:13.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005179)  
In most of our programs,

**[04:14:15.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005180)  
from the Kalahi Seeds,

**[04:14:16.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005181)  
the Community Driven Development,

**[04:14:18.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005182)  
Lawat Binhi, the

**[04:14:20.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005183)  
social preparation na

**[04:14:22.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005184)  
binibigay namin actually empowers

**[04:14:25.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005185)  
them to decide their own fate.

**[04:14:28.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005186)  
I'm afraid

**[04:14:29.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005187)  
baka doon ho natin makalaban

**[04:14:31.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005188)  
yung notion of empowering

**[04:14:32.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005189)  
a community if we limit their

**[04:14:34.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005190)  
ability to choose for their

**[04:14:36.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005191)  
own. What we can do though

**[04:14:38.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005192)  
is always to partner up with

**[04:14:40.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005193)  
legitimate, sorry, with national government

**[04:14:42.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005194)  
agencies like DTI, Department of

**[04:14:44.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005195)  
Tourism, and for them to help us

**[04:14:46.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005196)  
in the capacity building. Ang

**[04:14:48.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005197)  
minakamalaking role namin, and kanina

**[04:14:50.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005198)  
na-discussed to is, for us to strengthen

**[04:14:52.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005199)  
as a room for improvement, the monitoring.

**[04:14:55.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005200)  
Masigurado namin na yung

**[04:14:56.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005201)  
pera napunta sa tama at naging matagumpay

**[04:14:58.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005202)  
yung negosyo.

**[04:15:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005203)  
is where we should be gauged on

**[04:15:01.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005204)  
and that is an area of improvement

**[04:15:03.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005205)  
that we should be working on.

**[04:15:06.280] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005206)  
Ayun lang naman din po ang

**[04:15:07.600] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005207)  
nais namin mangyari. Kasi

**[04:15:09.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005208)  
siyempre what we would like to avoid

**[04:15:12.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005209)  
is that we're just giving out, as you

**[04:15:14.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005210)  
said, dole-outs. And

**[04:15:16.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005211)  
rather, instead of, you know,

**[04:15:18.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005212)  
yung sinasabi nga nila na

**[04:15:19.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005213)  
teaching them to fish

**[04:15:21.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005214)  
instead of just

**[04:15:23.500] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005215)  
feeding them for a day.

**[04:15:26.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005216)  
Mr. Chairman, maybe as

**[04:15:27.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005217)  
a solution,

**[04:15:30.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005218)  
kasi yung SLP, like most of

**[04:15:32.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005219)  
our programs, were based on

**[04:15:33.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005220)  
obligation disbursement and

**[04:15:35.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005221)  
meeting the physical targets.

**[04:15:38.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005222)  
Baka we now have to propose to the

**[04:15:39.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005223)  
DBM the success rate. Yes.

**[04:15:42.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005224)  
Or the longevity of businesses.

**[04:15:43.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005225)  
So like a new

**[04:15:45.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005226)  
KRA for us.

**[04:15:48.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005227)  
Gano karami sa kanila

**[04:15:49.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005228)  
ang nagtagumpay, naging formal

**[04:15:51.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005229)  
at the end of the term of five years

**[04:15:53.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005230)  
ng isang SLP, para dun kami

**[04:15:55.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005231)  
sukatin, hindi yung sa gano karami yung nabigay

**[04:15:57.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005232)  
namin.

**[04:15:58.710] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005232-split-2)  
Tama po. And I agree with that

**[04:15:59.820] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005233)  
too.

**[04:16:00.000] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005234)  
Totally, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chairman.

**[04:16:02.320] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005235)  
Thank you very much,

**[04:16:03.580] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005236)  
Mr. Secretary, for

**[04:16:05.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005237)  
all the information that you've shared.

**[04:16:08.540] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005238)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:16:09.480] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005239)  
We very much support your budget

**[04:16:12.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005240)  
and tulad po

**[04:16:14.100] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005241)  
ng sinabi ni Secretary Rex

**[04:16:15.860] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005242)  
kanina, sana po ibalik yung

**[04:16:17.700] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005243)  
tinanggal natin. And I urge all

**[04:16:19.980] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005244)  
our members na ibalik po

**[04:16:21.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005245)  
natin yung pontong yun. Maraming

**[04:16:23.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005246)  
salamat po. Thank you.

**[04:16:27.140] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005247)  
Thank you, Kong Robert.

**[04:16:28.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-005248)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[04:16:31.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005249)  
We now

**[04:16:32.700] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005250)  
recognize

**[04:16:33.900] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005251)  
Congressman Rufus

**[04:16:37.340] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005252)  
Rodriguez.

**[04:16:38.700] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005253)  
Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.

**[04:16:42.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005254)  
You know, we have to also applaud

**[04:16:44.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005255)  
our chair. 2007,

**[04:16:47.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005256)  
nag-start yung

**[04:16:48.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005257)  
conditional cash transfer

**[04:16:50.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005258)  
with GMA. 2010,

**[04:16:53.620] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005259)  
it was scaled up

**[04:16:54.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005260)  
by President Pinoy.

**[04:16:56.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005261)  
There was World Bank funding.

**[04:16:58.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005262)  
Ang tawag nito sa 4PC4

**[04:17:00.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005263)  
was conditional

**[04:17:01.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005264)  
cash transfer. Later, it was named

**[04:17:04.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005265)  
4PC4. So, therefore,

**[04:17:06.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005266)  
a big hand to the defender. He defended

**[04:17:08.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005267)  
DSWD then. He's now

**[04:17:09.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005268)  
defending DSWD now.

**[04:17:12.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005269)  
Thank you,

**[04:17:14.100] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005270)  
Chairman Nava.

**[04:17:15.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005271)  
Again, a pleasant good afternoon to the

**[04:17:18.180] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005272)  
family of the officialdom

**[04:17:20.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005273)  
of the DSWD

**[04:17:21.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005274)  
and the attached agencies

**[04:17:23.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005275)  
headed by our

**[04:17:25.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005276)  
indefatigable, hardworking

**[04:17:28.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005277)  
exemplary

**[04:17:29.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005278)  
Secretary of the Department

**[04:17:31.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005279)  
of Social Welfare and Development,

**[04:17:33.560] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005280)  
Rex Cachalian.

**[04:17:34.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005281)  
Palakpak na naman tayo.

**[04:17:37.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005282)  
I also see here, Attorney Gab

**[04:17:39.440] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005283)  
Concepcion, the wife of

**[04:17:41.380] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005284)  
our dear friend, the

**[04:17:43.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005285)  
law dean of UP

**[04:17:45.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005286)  
and the President of UP.

**[04:17:47.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005287)  
Gabi, give my regards to Danny.

**[04:17:49.120] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005288)  
And all the rest of my good friends,

**[04:17:51.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005289)  
Edu here was with us.

**[04:17:53.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005290)  
Yusek, Edu.

**[04:17:56.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005291)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[04:17:58.700] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005292)  
you know, the

**[04:17:59.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005293)  
DSWD

**[04:18:00.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005294)  
has been the primary force,

**[04:18:03.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005295)  
in helping the poor

**[04:18:05.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005296)  
and marginalized in our country.

**[04:18:07.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005297)  
St. John Paul II

**[04:18:09.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005298)  
said in his encyclical,

**[04:18:11.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005299)  
that the main mission of the Church

**[04:18:13.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005300)  
is to heed the call of the

**[04:18:15.480] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005301)  
poor and marginalized.

**[04:18:17.300] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005302)  
The rich people can take care of themselves

**[04:18:19.140] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005303)  
as long as we give a level playing field.

**[04:18:21.960] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005304)  
But the agency

**[04:18:23.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005305)  
tasked in providing

**[04:18:25.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005306)  
direct assistance

**[04:18:26.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005307)  
to our people, the poor and marginalized,

**[04:18:29.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005308)  
is the Department of Social Welfare and Development.

**[04:18:31.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005309)  
And we remember, Mr.

**[04:18:33.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005310)  
Chairman, in 1947,

**[04:18:36.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005311)  
President Rojas

**[04:18:37.380] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005312)  
organized, established

**[04:18:39.300] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005313)  
the Social Welfare Commission.

**[04:18:42.340] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005314)  
In 1951,

**[04:18:43.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005315)  
President Quirino

**[04:18:44.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005316)  
therefore organized

**[04:18:47.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005317)  
the Social Welfare Administration.

**[04:18:50.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005318)  
That is the history

**[04:18:51.720] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005319)  
of DSWD.

**[04:18:53.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005320)  
So now it's radical DSWD.

**[04:18:56.220] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005321)  
And of course,

**[04:18:57.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005322)  
in 1962, President

**[04:18:59.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005323)  
Bacapagal appointed

**[04:19:00.740] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005324)  
Teclas and Andresiga,

**[04:19:03.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005325)  
and I remember, I was in Gagay and Dioro,

**[04:19:05.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005326)  
my father was company manager

**[04:19:06.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005327)  
of the Liberal Party at the time,

**[04:19:08.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005328)  
and Teclas and Andresiga,

**[04:19:10.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005329)  
the secretary, the administrator pa,

**[04:19:13.300] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005330)  
of the Social Welfare Administration,

**[04:19:17.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005331)  
was in the House.

**[04:19:18.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005332)  
Teclas and Andresiga

**[04:19:20.220] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005333)  
went on to become

**[04:19:21.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005334)  
Senator of the Republic,

**[04:19:23.600] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005335)  
from Social Welfare Administration,

**[04:19:25.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005336)  
became Senator in 1963.

**[04:19:28.100] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005337)  
So I do not want to give

**[04:19:29.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005338)  
some, what's this,

**[04:19:32.660] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005339)  
lead on that.

**[04:19:33.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005340)  
Or where our secretary

**[04:19:35.700] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005341)  
will go in 2028.

**[04:19:38.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005342)  
But Teclas and Andresiga

**[04:19:39.660] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005343)  
Social Welfare Administration

**[04:19:41.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005344)  
became Senator in 1963.

**[04:19:44.100] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005345)  
So Mr. Chairman, I am just

**[04:19:45.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005346)  
really here to thank, you know,

**[04:19:48.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005347)  
our secretary

**[04:19:48.980] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005348)  
is always available.

**[04:19:51.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005349)  
My letters are always answered

**[04:19:53.400] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005350)  
immediately. My phone

**[04:19:55.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005351)  
calls before his,

**[04:19:57.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005352)  
before my bell rings

**[04:19:59.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005353)  
for him, he answers already.

**[04:20:00.700] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005354)  
My telepathy,

**[04:20:03.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005355)  
my secretary.

**[04:20:05.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005356)  
So every time, talagang

**[04:20:07.380] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005357)  
he is able to talk, I think,

**[04:20:09.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005358)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[04:20:11.400] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005359)  
everybody here is answered.

**[04:20:13.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005360)  
Your requests are answered by the secretary.

**[04:20:16.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005361)  
Therefore, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:20:18.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005362)  
I am compelled, therefore,

**[04:20:19.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005363)  
to move, not only

**[04:20:21.800] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005364)  
for the approval of the NEP project,

**[04:20:24.000] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005365)  
but the increase of the budget

**[04:20:25.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005366)  
of the DSWD

**[04:20:28.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005367)  
and attached agencies.

**[04:20:29.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005368)  
So I am just going to ask,

**[04:20:31.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005369)  
therefore, because you were reduced by

**[04:20:33.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005370)  
P235 billion, correct?

**[04:20:35.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005371)  
That's correct, Mr. Chair.

**[04:20:36.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005372)  
And the others also, CWC,

**[04:20:39.940] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005373)  
NCDA, were reduced

**[04:20:41.700] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005374)  
also,

**[04:20:43.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005375)  
[unclear], na-increase

**[04:20:45.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005376)  
ng konti is NACC

**[04:20:47.880] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005377)  
and NCSC,

**[04:20:49.760] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005378)  
Senior Citizens, they are

**[04:20:51.140] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005379)  
asking for more. But then there's even

**[04:20:53.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005380)  
no budget

**[04:20:54.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005381)  
for the LGBT

**[04:20:56.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005382)  
and affairs. We are

**[04:20:59.460] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005383)  
certainly very, very, you know,

**[04:21:01.780] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005384)  
we are really supportive.

**[04:21:03.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005385)  
We are supporting the special committee

**[04:21:05.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005386)  
and we also would like to get the budget

**[04:21:07.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005387)  
for the LGBT plus

**[04:21:09.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005388)  
affairs of other secretaries.

**[04:21:11.820] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005389)  
Seasonal Secretary Raymond Mazo.

**[04:21:14.320] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005390)  
So now, I would like to ask you,

**[04:21:15.800] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005391)  
we cannot give back the P235 billion

**[04:21:18.200] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005392)  
because of fiscal space,

**[04:21:19.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005393)  
but can you give us a list?

**[04:21:21.660] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005394)  
I've always talked to our chairperson,

**[04:21:24.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005395)  
Ika Swansing,

**[04:21:25.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005396)  
and in other agencies,

**[04:21:27.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005397)  
they give reasonable

**[04:21:28.800] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005398)  
augmentation because

**[04:21:30.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005399)  
grabe ang dedaksyon sa inyo

**[04:21:32.720] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005400)  
and also,

**[04:21:33.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005401)  
may we know

**[04:21:35.220] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005402)  
what will be the priority

**[04:21:37.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005403)  
restoration. I heard

**[04:21:39.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005404)  
that the 800 capital outlay

**[04:21:41.420] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005405)  
that's good is approved.

**[04:21:43.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005406)  
Mr. Chairman, we have submitted a list

**[04:21:45.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005407)  
to the committee.

**[04:21:47.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005408)  
We can copy it.

**[04:21:50.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005409)  
Just to read it out loud

**[04:21:51.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005410)  
briefly, Mr. Chairman.

**[04:21:52.640] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005411)  
The priority ones, and then how much

**[04:21:55.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005412)  
the total, so that we will be able

**[04:21:57.840] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005413)  
to convince in the BARC

**[04:21:59.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005414)  
the committee review of the budget

**[04:22:01.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005415)  
with the vice, I am a vice chairman,

**[04:22:03.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005416)  
vice chairman also, Raman here,

**[04:22:06.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005417)  
and all the others who are vice chairmen,

**[04:22:08.060] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005418)  
we will work for the restoration,

**[04:22:10.160] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005419)  
a reasonable restoration of the

**[04:22:11.680] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005420)  
priority projects of the DSWD.

**[04:22:14.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005421)  
Mr. Chair, good congressman,

**[04:22:15.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005422)  
the top of the list is

**[04:22:17.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005423)  
the AICS program.

**[04:22:19.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005424)  
I cannot overemphasize that we lost

**[04:22:21.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005425)  
30 billion. Kahit yun lang ho,

**[04:22:24.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005426)  
may ibalik lang yung 30 billion,

**[04:22:26.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005427)  
makakatulong na ho yun sa apat na million

**[04:22:27.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005428)  
na pamilya.

**[04:22:29.060] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005429)  
How much will you request?

**[04:22:31.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005430)  
We asked for 43, pero sa

**[04:22:33.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005431)  
totoo lang ho, kung kaya lang mabalik sa

**[04:22:35.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005432)  
current amount na 30 billion, then that

**[04:22:37.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005433)  
should be suffice for the department to operate

**[04:22:39.580] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005434)  
comfortably. Okay, the first one is

**[04:22:41.660] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005435)  
AICS. In the amount of 30 billion?

**[04:22:44.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005436)  
We lost 30 billion.

**[04:22:45.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005437)  
So how much have we asked for?

**[04:22:46.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005438)  
We're asking for 43, pero sumuntok lang ho kami sa buwan.

**[04:22:51.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005439)  
Pero sa totoo lang ho, 30, we will be

**[04:22:53.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005440)  
restored back to the original GAA level

**[04:22:55.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005441)  
of 2025.

**[04:22:57.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005442)  
Which is how much?

**[04:22:58.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005443)  
63 billion.

**[04:23:00.120] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005444)  
63, yeah, we will work for that.

**[04:23:01.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005445)  
Number two, Mr. Chairman, again,

**[04:23:03.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005446)  
ulit-ulit ho ako dito, social pension.

**[04:23:05.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005447)  
Enough to cover for everybody already.

**[04:23:08.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005448)  
That's another 6.8.

**[04:23:10.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005449)  
And then, of course,

**[04:23:12.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005450)  
6.8 billion.

**[04:23:16.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005451)  
And then, the programs

**[04:23:17.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005452)  
under USEC Punay, these are the

**[04:23:19.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005453)  
smaller programs that are very promising.

**[04:23:22.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005454)  
For instance, the

**[04:23:23.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005455)  
food stamps expansion

**[04:23:25.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005456)  
by another 1.9

**[04:23:27.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005457)  
billion.

**[04:23:28.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005458)  
Then, the Tarabasa

**[04:23:30.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005459)  
tutoring program for 456

**[04:23:32.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005460)  
million.

**[04:23:33.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005461)  
And then, the social technology

**[04:23:35.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005462)  
bureau that has the

**[04:23:37.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005463)  
new programs for teenage mothers,

**[04:23:40.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005464)  
for families with special needs children,

**[04:23:42.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005465)  
and online sexual abuse combating it,

**[04:23:45.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005466)  
178.8 million.

**[04:23:48.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005467)  
And lastly, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:23:50.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005468)  
sustainable...

**[04:23:51.120] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005469)  
What's that again? 178.4?

**[04:23:52.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005470)  
For the social technology bureau.

**[04:23:55.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005471)  
And then, Mr. Chairman, the social...

**[04:23:58.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005472)  
the SLP,

**[04:23:59.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005473)  
the sustainable livelihood program that has

**[04:24:01.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005474)  
taken center stage in today's discussion.

**[04:24:03.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005475)  
A conservative of

**[04:24:05.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005476)  
1 billion pesos, Mr. Chair.

**[04:24:08.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005477)  
Mr. Chair,

**[04:24:09.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005478)  
meron pa ko kasing iba dito, and I don't

**[04:24:11.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005479)  
want to behove the writing, the

**[04:24:13.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005480)  
taking down of the notes, but we will gladly

**[04:24:15.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005481)  
submit. Ang total po nito...

**[04:24:19.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005482)  
We still have a total,

**[04:24:21.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005483)  
but we will furnish you, Mr. Chairman, this copy of

**[04:24:23.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005484)  
the letter that we already wrote you.

**[04:24:25.080] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005485)  
So, it is in the priority,

**[04:24:27.560] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005486)  
but there is a prioritization.

**[04:24:29.280] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005487)  
Yes, Mr. Chairman.

**[04:24:30.060] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005488)  
It's all we can have ordered.

**[04:24:31.620] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005489)  
Because of fiscal space, we're not able

**[04:24:33.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005490)  
to give everything, but

**[04:24:34.560] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005491)  
I am sure that because

**[04:24:37.200] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005492)  
you are the primary agency

**[04:24:38.620] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005493)  
taking care of

**[04:24:41.040] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005494)  
the poor and marginalized,

**[04:24:43.900] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005495)  
as John Paul II said,

**[04:24:45.520] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005496)  
the main mission of the church, as

**[04:24:47.120] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005497)  
John Paul II said, the main

**[04:24:49.340] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005498)  
mission of the church is to

**[04:24:50.920] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005499)  
heed the call of the poor and the marginalized.

**[04:24:53.960] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005500)  
So, we should be able to,

**[04:24:55.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005501)  
with our chairperson,

**[04:24:57.540] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005502)  
be able to propose this in our

**[04:24:59.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005503)  
meeting of the vice chair,

**[04:25:01.260] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005504)  
and be able, probably not everything that's

**[04:25:03.500] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005505)  
there, but there should be some

**[04:25:05.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005506)  
restoration.

**[04:25:06.920] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005507)  
To be able to make sure that you

**[04:25:09.240] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005508)  
continue with that, Mr. Chairman.

**[04:25:11.720] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005509)  
So, I'd like to ask Gabby here,

**[04:25:13.380] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005510)  
what does she need?

**[04:25:16.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005511)  
Maybe, excuse me quickly, while Gabby Concepcion,

**[04:25:18.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005512)  
the actor, narrates her list.

**[04:25:21.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005513)  
Just to go to the comfort room.

**[04:25:25.170] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005514)  
Mr. Chair, can you approve

**[04:25:26.150] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005515)  
his comfort room request?

**[04:25:27.250] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005516)  
Yes, certainly.

**[04:25:28.350] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005517)  
Certainly.

**[04:25:30.010] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005518)  
May we recognize

**[04:25:31.570] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005519)  
Ma'am Gab Concepcion?

**[04:25:36.350] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005520)  
Maraming salamat po

**[04:25:38.090] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005521)  
Cong. Roderick Rufus.

**[04:25:41.770] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005522)  
Para po sa National Authority

**[04:25:43.530] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005523)  
for Child Care, of course, marami po

**[04:25:45.570] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005524)  
sana kaming gustong hingin

**[04:25:47.810] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005525)  
para sa mga leaking roofs

**[04:25:49.450] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005526)  
and offices in the regional offices.

**[04:25:52.170] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005527)  
Pero yung primary concern po

**[04:25:53.550] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005528)  
namin, maliit lang naman po

**[04:25:55.310] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005529)  
yung hinihingin namin. Meron po kasi kaming

**[04:25:57.250] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005530)  
augmented social

**[04:25:59.530] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005531)  
workers in the different

**[04:26:01.710] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005532)  
regions.

**[04:26:03.930] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005533)  
Ang binigay lang po sa

**[04:26:05.370] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005534)  
current

**[04:26:06.350] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005535)  
NEP ay 13 million.

**[04:26:08.350] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005536)  
But the basic compensation

**[04:26:10.170] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005537)  
for these 42 social workers

**[04:26:12.230] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005538)  
amounts to 21 million

**[04:26:14.210] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005539)  
without considering their travel

**[04:26:16.330] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005540)  
expenses and lodging expenses

**[04:26:18.230] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005541)  
that they will incur during their deployment.

**[04:26:21.150] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005542)  
So, at the very least,

**[04:26:23.030] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005543)  
kung isa lang po ang maaaring

**[04:26:24.690] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005544)  
maibigay sa NACC,

**[04:26:26.390] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005545)  
ito po ay bayaran ang 42

**[04:26:28.270] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005546)  
regional adoption social

**[04:26:30.450] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005547)  
workers.

**[04:26:30.930] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005548)  
How much will that be?

**[04:26:33.310] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005549)  
Kung kasali po lahat ng kanilang

**[04:26:35.150] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005550)  
travel and lodging expenses,

**[04:26:36.350] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005551)  
ang hinihingi po namin sana

**[04:26:38.730] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005552)  
ay 51 million.

**[04:26:43.310] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005553)  
Currently, it's

**[04:26:44.590] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005554)  
13 million. We would like to request

**[04:26:46.730] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005555)  
for maybe at least

**[04:26:48.270] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005556)  
20 million just for the

**[04:26:50.570] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005557)  
regional adoption social workers.

**[04:26:53.090] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005558)  
This is the NACC?

**[04:26:54.710] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005559)  
This is the NACC.

**[04:26:55.970] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005560)  
Yes, okay. Because, yes, although you have

**[04:26:58.310] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005561)  
a small increase.

**[04:27:00.410] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005562)  
Sir, actually it was

**[04:27:02.410] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005563)  
an increase, but all of the increase

**[04:27:04.730] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005564)  
will actually go to the NACC.

**[04:27:06.350] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005565)  
The payment of additional plantilia positions

**[04:27:08.550] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005566)  
for the legal department group

**[04:27:10.390] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005567)  
and for the standards monitoring group

**[04:27:12.490] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005568)  
that were only

**[04:27:13.530] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005569)  
created last year.

**[04:27:17.430] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005570)  
So, in effect, wala pong

**[04:27:18.770] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005571)  
nadagdagan na budget for

**[04:27:20.390] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005572)  
other needs of the

**[04:27:22.550] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005573)  
agency. This is just to pay the

**[04:27:24.410] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005574)  
additional personnel that were

**[04:27:26.050] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005575)  
hired last year, sir.

**[04:27:28.830] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005576)  
Included in the list of our

**[04:27:30.670] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005577)  
secretary who is still outside?

**[04:27:33.290] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005578)  
Kung hindi pa po nakasali,

**[04:27:34.890] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005579)  
ipapasali ka po.

**[04:27:36.350] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005580)  
Yusek, ha?

**[04:27:37.370] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005581)  
Sama na yung 20 million sa NCCA.

**[04:27:39.670] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005582)  
Thank you very much, Gab.

**[04:27:41.290] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-005583)  
Maraming salamat din, Congressman.

**[04:27:42.030] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005584)  
We always your husband and friend, my colleague ever since.

**[04:27:45.790] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005585)  
So, thank you in regards to Gabby.

**[04:27:48.010] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005586)  
My next question is to

**[04:27:49.430] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005587)  
Undersecretary Edo Puna.

**[04:27:51.210] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005588)  
What do you need? You know, it comes from here.

**[04:27:54.190] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005589)  
We work with him

**[04:27:55.150] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005590)  
for so many years.

**[04:27:57.270] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005591)  
You are really very privileged

**[04:27:59.230] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005592)  
to have Edo as in the DSWD.

**[04:28:02.890] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005593)  
Thank you,

**[04:28:03.530] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005594)  
Mr. Chair. We need everything.

**[04:28:06.350] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005595)  
Please give us everything.

**[04:28:08.590] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005596)  
Mahirap yung everything. But for you,

**[04:28:10.290] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005597)  
what are you holding?

**[04:28:11.790] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005598)  
Mr. Chair, as stated by the

**[04:28:14.070] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005599)  
Secretary, we just need to

**[04:28:16.390] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005600)  
expand the flagship programs of the

**[04:28:18.110] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005601)  
administration, including the

**[04:28:19.970] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005602)  
Walang Gutong Food Stamps Program,

**[04:28:22.150] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005603)  
which serves the food-poor

**[04:28:24.370] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005604)  
families. We're expanding it to

**[04:28:26.010] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005605)  
750,000 targets,

**[04:28:28.990] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005606)  
household targets

**[04:28:30.650] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005607)  
this year.

**[04:28:31.990] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005608)  
We need additional funding. I think it's

**[04:28:33.970] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005609)  
written in the letter. Another one,

**[04:28:36.350] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005610)  
9 billion

**[04:28:37.350] DSWD Undersecretary Eduardo M. Punay** (asr-005611)  
for next year.

**[04:28:39.950] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005612)  
Included already in the letter, Mr. Chair?

**[04:28:42.510] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005613)  
So, can you put that on top of the list

**[04:28:44.450] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005614)  
before I ask the request of

**[04:28:46.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005615)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:28:48.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005616)  
Mr. Chair, actually, three-fourths of the list

**[04:28:50.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005617)  
are the innovation programs.

**[04:28:51.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005618)  
So, the list that we submitted, three-fourths hunon

**[04:28:54.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005619)  
kay Yusek Puna talaga.

**[04:28:55.950] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005620)  
Very good. So, finally, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:28:58.570] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005621)  
I'd like to recognize

**[04:28:59.590] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005622)  
your face in the region and my city

**[04:29:02.090] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005623)  
is our outstanding

**[04:29:03.870] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005624)  
regional director of

**[04:29:06.350] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005625)  
Region 10. Glofel, can you stand up and

**[04:29:08.330] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005626)  
face the camera?

**[04:29:10.590] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005627)  
Where's Glofel? Yeah, yeah, no?

**[04:29:13.130] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005628)  
That's Glofel.

**[04:29:14.230] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005629)  
Ayan. That is why

**[04:29:16.050] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005630)  
things are moving very well

**[04:29:17.890] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005631)  
in, again, the Oro, the city of

**[04:29:20.090] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005632)  
golden friendship, and the rest of

**[04:29:22.210] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005633)  
Region 10. Because Glofel

**[04:29:24.270] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005634)  
is really a

**[04:29:26.190] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005635)  
career official. He was there

**[04:29:28.010] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005636)  
before. He was assigned somewhere.

**[04:29:30.010] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005637)  
He's back. And, of course, your

**[04:29:31.890] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005638)  
previous RD, Ramel Hamin,

**[04:29:33.950] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005639)  
I have to mention, is very, very

**[04:29:36.350] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005640)  
excellent. So, once again, a big

**[04:29:38.370] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005641)  
bow from RD Glofel. Thank you

**[04:29:40.530] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005642)  
for your help. Please stand up again.

**[04:29:44.230] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005643)  
Thank you. Yes. So, that is

**[04:29:46.210] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005644)  
the person who is always implementing

**[04:29:48.310] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005645)  
what you're giving to us,

**[04:29:50.110] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005646)  
Honorable Secretary. So, with that, Mr. Chairman,

**[04:29:53.350] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005647)  
I, therefore,

**[04:29:54.570] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005648)  
in the proper time,

**[04:29:57.450] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005649)  
move not only

**[04:29:58.510] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005650)  
for the approval,

**[04:30:00.000] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005651)  
of the budget of the swd and all the attached agencies in the nep but also the augmentation

**[04:30:07.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005652)  
and giving the budget in the list requested by secretary rex gatchalian thank you mr chairman

**[04:30:15.360] Rep. Rufus B. Rodriguez** (asr-005653)  
thank you mr chairman

**[04:30:16.600] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005653-split-2)  
thank you congressman rufus thank you the manifestation of the honorable

**[04:30:22.480] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005654)  
Rufus Rodriguez is duly noted. We now recognize Congressman Julius Cesar Vergara.

**[04:30:46.120] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005655)  
Magandang hapon po, Mr. Chair. Magandang tanghali po sa DSWD family, kay Secretary Gatchalian.

**[04:31:00.800] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005656)  
At matapos kong marinig ang lahat ng sinabi ni Congressman Rufus, kung papaano niyang i-liven yung Congress,

**[04:31:13.560] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005657)  
kanina po'y nakikinig rin ako doon sa mga iba kong kasama kahit na nasa likod at marami po kami.

**[04:31:25.840] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005658)  
Tunay po na marapat na ang departamento ninyo ay mapagbigyan ng tamang atensyon,

**[04:31:40.120] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005659)  
dahil hindi nga natin alam ang panahon.

**[04:31:43.560] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005660)  
At yung panahon po ay sumasalungat sa sinasabi. Kung sabi may El Niño, eh hindi pala El Niño.

**[04:31:56.800] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005661)  
Eh kailangan po preparado yung departamento ninyo. It's better to be prepared than caught unaware.

**[04:32:10.720] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005662)  
Si Secretary po ay nakausap ko na po at pinakinggan ko na po lahat ng inyong mga undersecretary

**[04:32:24.980] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005663)  
at ang lahat po ng regional director. And I think it's unfair na sinabi lang ni

**[04:32:32.980] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005664)  
Cong. Rufus yung regional director niya. Dapat po lahat ng regional director ng inyo pong tanggapan ay i-commend.

**[04:32:46.000] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005665)  
At naniniwala po ako na

**[04:32:53.780] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005666)  
sa bagay na iyon, ang aking asawa po'y minsan ay

**[04:32:56.740] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005667)  
naging chairman ng social services, and

**[04:33:01.280] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005668)  
ako po'y sumusuporta nang

**[04:33:03.380] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005669)  
buong puso sa inyong

**[04:33:06.140] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005670)  
budget

**[04:33:07.520] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005671)  
increase. Sana.

**[04:33:09.400] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005672)  
Sana madali.

**[04:33:12.200] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005673)  
Sana

**[04:33:12.620] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005674)  
talagang mahirigay sa

**[04:33:15.720] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005675)  
ayos. Sana

**[04:33:17.000] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005676)  
preparado talaga tayo

**[04:33:19.040] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005677)  
sa lahat ng pangangailangan

**[04:33:21.360] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005678)  
ng inyong departamento.

**[04:33:24.460] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005679)  
Mr. Secretary,

**[04:33:27.240] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005680)  
the SWD

**[04:33:28.080] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005681)  
family, maraming

**[04:33:29.680] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005682)  
salamat po. And I manifest

**[04:33:32.060] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005683)  
my support

**[04:33:33.060] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005684)  
for you.

**[04:33:35.040] Rep. Julius Cesar "Jay" V. Vergara** (asr-005685)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[04:33:36.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005685-split-2)  
Thank you,

**[04:33:36.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005686)  
Congressman Vergara.

**[04:33:38.840] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005687)  
Thank you, Kong J.

**[04:33:42.660] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005688)  
We recognize

**[04:33:44.240] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005689)  
Congresswoman

**[04:33:46.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005690)  
Maria Cristina Talavera Lopez.

**[04:33:55.880] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005691)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:33:57.140] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005692)  
Good afternoon, Secretary Rex

**[04:33:58.940] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005693)  
Gatchalian and family of

**[04:34:00.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005694)  
the SWD. Magandang hapon

**[04:34:03.000] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005695)  
po sa ating lahat. Munang una po,

**[04:34:05.080] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005696)  
I would like to commend the leadership of

**[04:34:06.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005697)  
Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[04:34:08.280] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005698)  
And also, nagpapasalamat po kami

**[04:34:11.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005699)  
sa mabilis pong pagtugon

**[04:34:13.240] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005700)  
sa ating pong mga constituents.

**[04:34:15.680] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005701)  
Nararamdaman po namin ang

**[04:34:17.260] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005702)  
tulong po ng DSWD.

**[04:34:19.720] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005703)  
Unang una po itong katanungan

**[04:34:21.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005704)  
ko, Mr. Chair,

**[04:34:23.780] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005705)  
para po sa ating LGBT.

**[04:34:28.000] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005706)  
Nandito po si

**[04:34:28.860] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005707)  
USEC Ellen Pasion.

**[04:34:32.280] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005708)  
Doctor noon po, ma'am.

**[04:34:34.040] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005709)  
Madam,

**[04:34:34.560] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005710)  
Mr. Chair,

**[04:34:37.820] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005711)  
gusto pong itanong,

**[04:34:39.160] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005712)  
what are the current efforts

**[04:34:41.120] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005713)  
and programs of the agency

**[04:34:42.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005714)  
regarding the LGBTQIA

**[04:34:45.100] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005715)  
plus community?

**[04:34:47.460] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005716)  
Meron po ba tayong

**[04:34:48.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005717)  
special committee on this?

**[04:34:50.740] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005718)  
And how much is the funding for this program?

**[04:34:56.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005719)  
Mr. Chair, the

**[04:34:56.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005720)  
Undersecretary will be the one answering

**[04:34:58.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005721)  
in detail.

**[04:35:05.190] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005722)  
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

**[04:35:07.430] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005723)  
Good afternoon, Congresswoman.

**[04:35:10.250] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005724)  
Yeah,

**[04:35:11.350] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005725)  
Congresswoman Alona,

**[04:35:13.030] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005726)  
we have submitted

**[04:35:14.730] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005727)  
a proposal of a budget of

**[04:35:16.430] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005728)  
P35 million.

**[04:35:17.450] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005729)  
For year 2027.

**[04:35:20.250] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005730)  
Unfortunately, the timing

**[04:35:21.750] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005731)  
of my appointment last year,

**[04:35:23.470] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005732)  
which is September 29 only,

**[04:35:25.670] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005733)  
yung first

**[04:35:26.930] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005734)  
budget

**[04:35:28.210] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005735)  
hearing,

**[04:35:30.830] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005736)  
we're not able to present.

**[04:35:33.950] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005737)  
So we're late in our way.

**[04:35:36.850] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005738)  
But, yeah,

**[04:35:37.990] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005739)  
but having

**[04:35:39.830] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005740)  
proposed the P35 million,

**[04:35:42.410] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005741)  
it was

**[04:35:43.370] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005742)  
of course denied

**[04:35:45.470] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005743)  
by the DBM.

**[04:35:47.450] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005744)  
And even we made a counterproposal,

**[04:35:51.810] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005745)  
actually, of P8 million.

**[04:35:53.810] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005746)  
And still, it's been denied.

**[04:35:57.050] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005747)  
The P35 million budget proposal is

**[04:36:03.630] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005748)  
for—wait lang.

**[04:36:11.080] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005749)  
yeah, it's for first policy planning

**[04:36:14.340] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005750)  
and second, evidence and accountability,

**[04:36:17.040] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005751)  
three consultative mechanisms,

**[04:36:18.960] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005752)  
four, agency acceleration and capacity,

**[04:36:22.420] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005753)  
five, rights,

**[04:36:23.760] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005754)  
referral and sector pilots,

**[04:36:26.320] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005755)  
six, rights promotion and service directory,

**[04:36:29.400] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005756)  
and of course, program, M&E, and learning.

**[04:36:32.980] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005757)  
So this is in national scope, sana.

**[04:36:36.300] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005758)  
In order to come up with policies and programs,

**[04:36:38.760] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005759)  
of course, na realistic,

**[04:36:41.320] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005760)  
we need to conduct more dialogue

**[04:36:44.500] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005761)  
po with the community.

**[04:36:46.500] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005762)  
So yung P35 million po,

**[04:36:48.500] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005763)  
yun po yung gagawin po namin

**[04:36:50.500] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-005764)  
for 2027, Madam Chair.

**[04:36:53.760] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005765)  
Okay, ma'am, thank you.

**[04:36:55.400] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005766)  
So ibig sabihin po,

**[04:36:56.840] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005767)  
wala po talagang nakalagay na budget

**[04:36:58.880] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005768)  
for LGBT.

**[04:37:00.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005769)  
So lahat po ng inyong programs,

**[04:37:02.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005770)  
ibabawas po ba ito

**[04:37:04.380] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005771)  
sa Office of the Secretary na MOOE lamang?

**[04:37:07.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005772)  
Yung funding allocation po, right now?

**[04:37:12.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005773)  
To the best of our ability,

**[04:37:14.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005774)  
Mr. Chairman, Madam Congresswoman,

**[04:37:16.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005775)  
right now naman ho, kinukuha na siya

**[04:37:18.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005776)  
sa iba't-ibang mga cluster ng DSWD.

**[04:37:20.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005777)  
Pero hindi lang ho ganun kalaki ho talaga.

**[04:37:22.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005778)  
That's why humingi ho kami ng separate line item para sa kanila.

**[04:37:26.800] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005782)  
Okay. Kasi po,

**[04:37:27.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005783)  
nakakabahala po itong ganito,

**[04:37:31.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005784)  
Mr. Secretary,

**[04:37:33.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005785)  
Madam, because napakalaki po

**[04:37:35.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005786)  
ng ating LGBT community.

**[04:37:37.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005787)  
In layman's term

**[04:37:39.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005788)  
nga po sinasabi dyan,

**[04:37:41.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005789)  
hindi naman sila nanganganak pero

**[04:37:43.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005790)  
dumadami. Ano po?

**[04:37:45.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005791)  
So sa akin po,

**[04:37:47.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005792)  
syempre yung augmentation po.

**[04:37:49.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005793)  
Pag support po na sana,

**[04:37:51.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005794)  
Mr. Chair,

**[04:37:53.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005795)  
magdagdagan po natin, magkaroon ng sariling

**[04:37:55.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005796)  
budget ang ating pong

**[04:37:57.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005797)  
LGBTQIA plus

**[04:37:59.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005798)  
community.

**[04:38:01.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005799)  
Mr. Sec,

**[04:38:03.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005800)  
hindi ko po alam kung paano nyo ito may papasok

**[04:38:05.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005801)  
but I know, ang laki po nang natapya sa

**[04:38:07.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005802)  
DSWD

**[04:38:09.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005803)  
budget. Sa akin pong mga

**[04:38:11.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005804)  
kasamahan dito, baka po maihabol

**[04:38:13.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005805)  
po natin. Ano po?

**[04:38:15.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005806)  
Kasi meron po itong

**[04:38:17.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005807)  
EO. Tama po ba may EO po ito?

**[04:38:19.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005808)  
Mr. Chairman, there is an EO.

**[04:38:21.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005809)  
There is an EO and

**[04:38:23.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005810)  
we leave it to, now that the NEP has been

**[04:38:25.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005811)  
submitted to Congress, we let it,

**[04:38:27.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005812)  
we will respect the wisdom

**[04:38:29.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005813)  
of Congress in adding or

**[04:38:31.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005814)  
amending the

**[04:38:33.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005815)  
national, the NEP, the NEP.

**[04:38:35.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005816)  
Okay, thank you po.

**[04:38:37.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005817)  
Lastly po,

**[04:38:39.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005818)  
this representation firmly

**[04:38:41.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005819)  
believes that through adequate

**[04:38:43.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005820)  
funding under the special

**[04:38:45.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005821)  
community that we are able to help

**[04:38:47.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005822)  
our agency to perform

**[04:38:49.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005823)  
well to their duties and

**[04:38:51.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005824)  
activities of the LGBT

**[04:38:53.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005825)  
QIA community.

**[04:38:55.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005826)  
At nananawagan

**[04:38:57.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005827)  
po ako, Mr.

**[04:38:59.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005828)  
Chair, sa ating pong lahat ng mga kasamahan

**[04:39:01.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005829)  
na ma-approve ang budget ng

**[04:39:03.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005830)  
DSWD at

**[04:39:05.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005831)  
taasan po natin ang LGBT.

**[04:39:07.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005832)  
Pahabol po SEC, yung pong

**[04:39:09.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005833)  
SLP, kanina ko po po yan

**[04:39:11.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005834)  
naririnig. Pero ako po talaga

**[04:39:13.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005835)  
naniniwala po ako sa

**[04:39:15.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005836)  
Sustainable Livelihood Program.

**[04:39:17.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005837)  
Ahem.

**[04:39:19.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005838)  
Sa Quezon Province po marami po

**[04:39:21.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005839)  
kaming nakikinabang diyan.

**[04:39:23.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005840)  
Kaya sana po for this

**[04:39:25.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005841)  
year, mas madagdagan pa siya.

**[04:39:27.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005842)  
Thank you po and good afternoon po

**[04:39:29.960] Rep. Ma. Cristina Talavera Lopez** (asr-005843)  
Mr. Chair.

**[04:39:31.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005844)  
Thank you.

**[04:39:33.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005845)  
The

**[04:39:35.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005846)  
manifestation of

**[04:39:37.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005847)  
Pong Talavera Lopez

**[04:39:39.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005848)  
is duly noted.

**[04:39:41.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005849)  
We now

**[04:39:43.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005850)  
recognize

**[04:39:45.500] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005851)  
Vice Chair

**[04:39:47.540] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-005852)  
Romeo Momo.

**[04:39:55.480] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005853)  
Thank you, Chairman.

**[04:39:58.480] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005854)  
Secretary

**[04:39:59.320] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005855)  
Rex Gatchalian.

**[04:40:00.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005856)  
Magandang hapon po.

**[04:40:02.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005857)  
First of all,

**[04:40:04.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005858)  
Mr. Chair, I would like to

**[04:40:06.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005859)  
manifest my support to the

**[04:40:08.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005860)  
budget of DSWD.

**[04:40:10.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005861)  
Personally,

**[04:40:12.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005862)  
I believe in the capacity of

**[04:40:14.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005863)  
a very dynamic Secretary,

**[04:40:16.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005864)  
Secretary Rex.

**[04:40:18.950] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005865)  
Ahem.

**[04:40:23.510] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005866)  
Kaya in a proper time, I would

**[04:40:25.510] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005867)  
like to support

**[04:40:27.510] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005868)  
the motion to increase your budget,

**[04:40:29.510] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005869)  
Mr. Secretary, especially

**[04:40:31.510] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005870)  
the motion about

**[04:40:33.510] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005871)  
Congressman Rufus.

**[04:40:36.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005872)  
I would like also to inform you,

**[04:40:38.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005873)  
Mr. Secretary, that

**[04:40:40.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005874)  
in my region, Karaga region,

**[04:40:42.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005875)  
mayroon din po kayong magaling

**[04:40:44.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005876)  
na Regional Director,

**[04:40:46.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005877)  
kasing galing din na Regional Director

**[04:40:48.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005878)  
ni Congressman Rufus,

**[04:40:50.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005879)  
si Director

**[04:40:52.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005880)  
Marie-Fleur Doliaga Libang po.

**[04:40:54.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005881)  
Andito ba? Andito.

**[04:40:56.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005882)  
O yan.

**[04:40:58.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005883)  
Huwag nating palitan, ho.

**[04:41:00.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005884)  
Huwag sanong palitan, ha. Magaling to eh.

**[04:41:02.760] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005885)  
Well, ah, galing din.

**[04:41:06.070] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005886)  
Ah, galing din pala kaya

**[04:41:08.070] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005887)  
Rufus, kaya magaling, ha,

**[04:41:10.070] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005888)  
kung Rufus.

**[04:41:12.070] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005889)  
Um, mayroon lang akong

**[04:41:14.070] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005890)  
konting tanong, Sec.

**[04:41:16.070] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005891)  
Well,

**[04:41:18.070] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005892)  
ahem,

**[04:41:21.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005893)  
DSWD's

**[04:41:23.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005894)  
obligation rate,

**[04:41:25.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005895)  
obligation rate remained

**[04:41:27.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005896)  
relatively high.

**[04:41:29.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005897)  
But deteriorated slightly

**[04:41:31.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005898)  
in 2026. In fact,

**[04:41:33.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005899)  
historically,

**[04:41:35.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005900)  
in 2023, your

**[04:41:37.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005901)  
obligation rate is 96.5.

**[04:41:39.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005902)  
In 2024,

**[04:41:41.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005903)  
it's 97.5.

**[04:41:43.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005904)  
And in 2025,

**[04:41:45.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005905)  
it's 96.9%

**[04:41:47.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005906)  
obligational rate.

**[04:41:49.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005907)  
However, translated into

**[04:41:51.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005908)  
cash

**[04:41:53.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005909)  
value, this

**[04:41:55.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005910)  
unobligated amount

**[04:41:57.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005911)  
is still in the

**[04:41:59.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005912)  
vicinity of 11 billion

**[04:42:01.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005913)  
pesos po, na anyos amount.

**[04:42:03.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005914)  
I hope my figure

**[04:42:05.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005915)  
is wrong.

**[04:42:07.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005916)  
Ah, pero ito ho, ang nakuha

**[04:42:09.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005917)  
naming figure, that there is

**[04:42:11.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005918)  
still unobligated amount of 11.6

**[04:42:13.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005919)  
billion. For 2026,

**[04:42:15.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005920)  
Mr. Chair, just to clarify.

**[04:42:17.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005921)  
2025, 2025. No, no more.

**[04:42:19.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005922)  
Mr. Chairman, we will submit to you, ubos na po

**[04:42:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005923)  
yan. Last year, wala

**[04:42:23.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005924)  
ho kaming natira na amount.

**[04:42:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005925)  
We will submit, we can

**[04:42:27.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005926)  
flash the slide that shows the

**[04:42:29.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005927)  
actual, if we

**[04:42:31.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005928)  
can pull it up, na wala na ho kaming

**[04:42:33.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005929)  
natira for 2025 as of July.

**[04:42:35.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005930)  
99.9%

**[04:42:37.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005931)  
na po yun. And we are on our

**[04:42:39.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005932)  
way to finishing also the 2026

**[04:42:41.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005933)  
at 70%

**[04:42:43.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005934)  
obligation and close disbursement

**[04:42:45.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005935)  
rate as of July.

**[04:42:47.090] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005935-split-2)  
That is

**[04:42:47.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005936)  
nice to hear, Mr. Secretary. But can I

**[04:42:49.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005937)  
have the letter?

**[04:42:51.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005938)  
Mr. Chairman, we will submit.

**[04:42:53.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005939)  
It's part of the package that we showed a while ago.

**[04:42:55.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005940)  
And again, Mr.

**[04:42:57.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005941)  
Secretary, in my

**[04:42:59.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005942)  
figure, it says that

**[04:43:01.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005943)  
your disbursement

**[04:43:03.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005944)  
improved from 88.1 in

**[04:43:05.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005945)  
2024

**[04:43:07.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005946)  
to 91.5

**[04:43:09.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005947)  
in 2025.

**[04:43:11.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005948)  
But

**[04:43:13.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005949)  
still, it's 23 billion

**[04:43:15.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005950)  
remain undisbursed.

**[04:43:17.640] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005951)  
Again.

**[04:43:19.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005952)  
Mr. Chairman, this is the slide.

**[04:43:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005953)  
I'm not sure if the good congressman can see it.

**[04:43:23.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005954)  
That shows the disbursement of

**[04:43:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005955)  
the 2025. As you can see,

**[04:43:27.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005956)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[04:43:29.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005957)  
99.58%

**[04:43:31.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005958)  
na po ang naobligate, 98.13

**[04:43:33.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005959)  
na po ang na disbursed.

**[04:43:37.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005960)  
So yung natitira ho yung mga

**[04:43:39.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005961)  
unpaid,

**[04:43:50.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005962)  
Mr. Chairman, the small amount,

**[04:43:52.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005963)  
again, let me repeat, na sa

**[04:43:54.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005964)  
98.13% na yung disbursement namin,

**[04:43:56.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005965)  
yung natitirang 2%, ODA

**[04:43:58.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005966)  
ho yun na hindi na ho

**[04:44:00.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005967)  
nagmaterialize because tapos na yung program

**[04:44:02.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005968)  
and it's now being reverted back

**[04:44:04.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005969)  
to the Treasury kasi

**[04:44:06.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005970)  
these are savings or yung mga hindi

**[04:44:08.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005971)  
ho talaga, after procurement, lumiit

**[04:44:10.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005972)  
yung mga amounts required.

**[04:44:12.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005973)  
Understood, yes.

**[04:44:14.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005973-split-2)  
But let

**[04:44:14.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005974)  
me assure you that these are not grants.

**[04:44:16.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005975)  
Not in the AICs, not in the

**[04:44:18.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005976)  
grant-based programs.

**[04:44:20.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005977)  
Okay, thank you, thank you. Good to hear,

**[04:44:22.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005978)  
Secretary. My

**[04:44:24.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005979)  
next question, Secretary,

**[04:44:26.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005980)  
is on the Sustainable

**[04:44:28.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005981)  
Livelihood Program. Actually,

**[04:44:30.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005982)  
I support really the Sustainable

**[04:44:32.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005983)  
Livelihood Program. Marami

**[04:44:34.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005984)  
ding

**[04:44:36.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005985)  
successful implementation

**[04:44:38.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005986)  
ng program. Pero

**[04:44:40.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005987)  
since it was

**[04:44:42.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005988)  
conceptualized,

**[04:44:44.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005989)  
ilang

**[04:44:46.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005990)  
ilan na ang

**[04:44:48.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005991)  
resipiente na nakatanggap

**[04:44:50.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005992)  
nito, Mr. Secretary?

**[04:44:52.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005993)  
Do you have the figure? At

**[04:44:54.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005994)  
mayroon ba kayong aral, inaaral

**[04:44:56.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005995)  
ninyo kung ilan yung successful,

**[04:44:58.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005996)  
ilan yung failure?

**[04:45:00.000] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005997)  
ilang percent and so on and so forth

**[04:45:01.540] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005998)  
para makita din natin na it's not

**[04:45:03.860] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-005999)  
useless in the investment

**[04:45:05.820] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006000)  
ng ating national government.

**[04:45:07.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006001)  
Mr. Chairman, yung

**[04:45:09.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006002)  
meron ho kaming data niyan on a year

**[04:45:11.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006003)  
to year kung ilan yung na-disperse,

**[04:45:13.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006004)  
ilan yung na-obligate individuals

**[04:45:15.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006005)  
or groups. Katulad po na nabagit

**[04:45:18.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006006)  
ko kanina kay Congressman Nasal,

**[04:45:20.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006007)  
tama ho na dapat hindi nasukatan

**[04:45:21.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006008)  
gano'ng kabilis kami nagbibigay ng pondo

**[04:45:23.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006009)  
sa SLP, kundi gano'ng karami sa kanila

**[04:45:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006010)  
ang nagtatagal. Mr. Chairman, we will submit

**[04:45:27.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006011)  
to the committee

**[04:45:29.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006012)  
the number of monitored

**[04:45:31.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006013)  
groups na nagtagumpay. We just

**[04:45:33.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006014)  
don't have the data right now.

**[04:45:36.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006015)  
Meron ka ba?

**[04:45:38.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006016)  
Hindi, hindi, hindi.

**[04:45:39.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006017)  
Yung nagtagumpay.

**[04:45:44.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006020)  
Dali mo na lang. We will submit to you

**[04:45:47.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006021)  
the actual names and data of the

**[04:45:48.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006022)  
groups that had success rate.

**[04:45:51.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006023)  
But Mr. Chairman, let me point out

**[04:45:52.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006024)  
two very critical studies that

**[04:45:55.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006025)  
lauded the SLP. These are independent

**[04:45:57.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006026)  
studies. Number one,

**[04:45:58.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006027)  
yung

**[04:45:59.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006028)  
meron hong consultant group na

**[04:46:01.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006029)  
kinomission namin, we procured it

**[04:46:03.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006030)  
called Brain Trust. It's led

**[04:46:05.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006031)  
by Neda Secretary

**[04:46:07.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006032)  
Chell Habito. That study

**[04:46:09.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006033)  
we will furnish to you wherein it shows

**[04:46:11.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006034)  
na among the more sustainable programs

**[04:46:13.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006035)  
that shows a lot of promise

**[04:46:15.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006036)  
is the SLP. Na single

**[04:46:17.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006037)  
out po yun. Pangalawa,

**[04:46:19.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006038)  
kanina ho nabanggit namin yung briefing namin

**[04:46:21.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006039)  
sa PSA kahapon na inulit

**[04:46:23.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006040)  
nila na the second,

**[04:46:24.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006041)  
of course, hindi lang kami to, but the second

**[04:46:27.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006042)  
driver of the poverty reductionist

**[04:46:29.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006043)  
action are the livelihood programs or

**[04:46:30.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006044)  
entrepreneurship programs of the government

**[04:46:32.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006045)  
to include SLP.

**[04:46:35.980] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006046)  
Actually, Mr. Secretary,

**[04:46:37.560] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006047)  
I'm not interested on how

**[04:46:39.140] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006048)  
much you disperse, but

**[04:46:41.120] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006049)  
I am more interested on the figure

**[04:46:43.300] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006050)  
on the success

**[04:46:45.320] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006051)  
of the SLP. Kung ilan ho

**[04:46:47.360] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006052)  
yung successful, ilan din ho

**[04:46:49.320] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006053)  
ang hindi.

**[04:46:50.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006053-split-2)  
Yeah. Mr. Chairman, now

**[04:46:51.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006054)  
we're flashing the number. We have it already.

**[04:46:53.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006055)  
Okay. Mr. Chairman, of the

**[04:46:55.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006056)  
700—

**[04:46:57.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006057)  
474,866

**[04:46:59.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006058)  
monitored projects. Ito ho yung mga

**[04:47:01.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006059)  
benepisyaryo sa micro-enterprise

**[04:47:03.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006060)  
development plan. Up to this

**[04:47:05.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006061)  
day, ang success rate niya is

**[04:47:07.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006062)  
77.57. So

**[04:47:09.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006063)  
70, close to 80%

**[04:47:11.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006064)  
ang up to this day na monitor

**[04:47:13.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006065)  
namin na buhay pa, nagsa-comply

**[04:47:15.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006066)  
pa ho ng mga financial statements.

**[04:47:16.820] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006067)  
Sino ho nag-monitor nito?

**[04:47:18.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006067-split-2)  
These are

**[04:47:19.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006068)  
may sarili ho kaming monitoring group.

**[04:47:21.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006069)  
Part of the

**[04:47:22.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006070)  
programs management group

**[04:47:25.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006071)  
namin. Now, on the other side,

**[04:47:27.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006072)  
ito, ito ho yung

**[04:47:29.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006073)  
employment facilitation. Kasi remember,

**[04:47:31.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006074)  
meron naman ho yung ayaw mag-enterprise, kundi

**[04:47:33.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006075)  
magtatrabaho. So we worked with the other

**[04:47:35.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006076)  
government agencies like DOLE.

**[04:47:37.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006077)  
59.09 yung

**[04:47:39.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006078)  
success rate in finding a job, landing

**[04:47:41.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006079)  
a job, and staying in the job.

**[04:47:44.400] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006080)  
Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

**[04:47:46.400] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006081)  
If you can submit the

**[04:47:48.520] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006082)  
copy of this to the

**[04:47:50.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006083)  
We will, Mr. Chairman, as directed.

**[04:47:52.560] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006084)  
Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Yan lang ang tanong ko.

**[04:47:54.580] Rep. Romeo S. Momo Sr.** (asr-006085)  
Actually. Maraming salamat po.

**[04:47:56.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006086)  
Mr. Chairman, we will comply. Thank you.

**[04:47:58.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006087)  
Congressman.

**[04:48:00.620] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006088)  
Thank you very much, Kong Momo.

**[04:48:03.340] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006089)  
We now recognize

**[04:48:05.000] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006090)  
Congressman

**[04:48:09.000] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006091)  
Christopher "Coco" Yap.

**[04:48:14.710] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006092)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:48:17.250] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006093)  
Good afternoon,

**[04:48:18.110] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006094)  
SECREX and DSWD

**[04:48:20.250] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006095)  
family.

**[04:48:21.950] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006096)  
Yung question ko naman po is

**[04:48:23.870] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006097)  
same as Kong Momo,

**[04:48:26.590] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006098)  
regarding the Sustainable

**[04:48:28.250] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006099)  
Livelihood Program. We believe in the

**[04:48:30.210] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006100)  
program. Maraming nagagawa,

**[04:48:31.770] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006101)  
especially in my

**[04:48:33.110] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006102)  
province. Very effective.

**[04:48:35.750] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006103)  
At dapat sana, kasi nakita ko

**[04:48:37.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006104)  
sa

**[04:48:38.150] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006105)  
budget ngayon is

**[04:48:40.890] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006106)  
from 2026 to

**[04:48:43.250] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006107)  
2025 to 2026,

**[04:48:45.530] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006108)  
lumiit. Then from

**[04:48:47.150] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006109)  
6.1 to 5.3, then

**[04:48:49.490] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006110)  
now 5.1, pero

**[04:48:50.810] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006111)  
3.1 lang yung subsidies.

**[04:48:53.830] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006112)  
Talagang mababa. And I hope

**[04:48:55.790] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006113)  
ma-restore yung

**[04:48:57.330] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006114)  
budget ninyo.

**[04:49:00.130] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006115)  
Especially sa

**[04:49:01.030] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006116)  
sitwasyon ngayon.

**[04:49:03.110] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006117)  
Sa ating

**[04:49:04.410] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006118)  
lipunan. Yung ating mga kababayan,

**[04:49:08.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006119)  
malaking tulong na to

**[04:49:10.110] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006120)  
through livelihood, which are

**[04:49:11.990] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006121)  
proven to be very effective.

**[04:49:14.070] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006122)  
We have people's organization

**[04:49:15.930] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006123)  
in our place. I already, yung

**[04:49:17.870] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006124)  
sinabi ko, SECBA, na maraming

**[04:49:19.390] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006125)  
people's organization sa amin.

**[04:49:22.210] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006126)  
Maliit lang yung puna nila.

**[04:49:24.110] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006127)  
50,000. Then ngayon

**[04:49:26.010] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006128)  
nagiging 1 million yung

**[04:49:27.830] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006129)  
kita nila. And

**[04:49:29.450] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006130)  
what we want here siguro is

**[04:49:31.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006131)  
yung mga proven and effective na talaga

**[04:49:34.050] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006132)  
na POs, yun din siguro

**[04:49:36.150] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006133)  
yung suportahan natin.

**[04:49:38.190] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006134)  
Because they're already proven

**[04:49:39.950] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006135)  
and effective yung

**[04:49:41.570] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006136)  
livelihood nila.

**[04:49:45.190] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006137)  
Thank you po,

**[04:49:46.270] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006138)  
Mr. Chair.

**[04:49:47.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006139)  
We welcome that notion. In fact,

**[04:49:49.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006140)  
yung sa SLP home may 5-year

**[04:49:51.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006141)  
track yan. Wherein, pag na-prove

**[04:49:53.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006142)  
nila yung capacity nila

**[04:49:55.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006143)  
to make a profit, to formalize,

**[04:49:58.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006144)  
in year 3, they get another

**[04:49:59.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006145)  
type of grant, and then year 5,

**[04:50:01.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006146)  
So, hinabaan ho natin yung horizon

**[04:50:03.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006147)  
na hindi lang one time, kundi

**[04:50:05.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006148)  
5 years siya na may intermediate

**[04:50:07.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006149)  
na monitoring for more grants

**[04:50:09.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006150)  
para lumaki sila.

**[04:50:12.170] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006151)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So,

**[04:50:13.890] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006152)  
yung hindi pa naka-avail, pero

**[04:50:15.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006153)  
people's organization na po,

**[04:50:17.710] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006154)  
proven and effective, and they just

**[04:50:19.890] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006155)  
need an additional capital to grow

**[04:50:21.730] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006156)  
their livelihood po.

**[04:50:24.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006157)  
Mr. Chairman, the regional

**[04:50:25.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006158)  
director ni congressman is here.

**[04:50:28.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006159)  
We're now directing her to get

**[04:50:29.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006160)  
that list so that we can evaluate,

**[04:50:31.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006161)  
validate, and also help

**[04:50:33.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006162)  
pagka talagang qualified po.

**[04:50:35.230] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006163)  
Thank you, thank you. Very active naman po

**[04:50:37.750] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006164)  
si RD Grace Subong. Saan ba yung

**[04:50:39.750] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006165)  
RD namin?

**[04:50:42.190] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006166)  
Kasi si Kong Momo pinatayo

**[04:50:43.690] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006167)  
yung sa akin naman. RD Grace,

**[04:50:46.290] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006168)  
please stand up. O, yan.

**[04:50:47.810] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006169)  
To be recognized.

**[04:50:52.070] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006170)  
Kong Rufus.

**[04:50:56.410] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006171)  
So, thank you,

**[04:50:57.910] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006172)  
Sec.

**[04:50:59.350] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006173)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:51:01.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006174)  
Yung sa AECS, it has been

**[04:51:04.130] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006175)  
a great help, especially in our

**[04:51:06.250] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006176)  
areas, which are

**[04:51:07.630] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006177)  
typhoon-prone

**[04:51:10.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006178)  
areas, yung

**[04:51:12.590] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006179)  
Southern Leyte. We've been

**[04:51:14.530] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006180)  
hit by Odette

**[04:51:15.430] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006181)  
and Tino recently,

**[04:51:18.150] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006182)  
yung malaking typhoon Tino.

**[04:51:20.350] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006183)  
And a lot of our assistance

**[04:51:22.370] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006184)  
from burial, transportation,

**[04:51:25.290] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006185)  
educational assistance,

**[04:51:27.130] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006186)  
and with now, with the

**[04:51:28.210] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006187)  
scarcity of MAEP,

**[04:51:29.770] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006188)  
medical assistance,

**[04:51:31.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006189)  
talagang galing talaga sa office

**[04:51:33.950] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006190)  
ninyo. So, talagang malaking tulong

**[04:51:36.070] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006191)  
sa amin yun. And what more

**[04:51:38.090] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006192)  
if we could put up

**[04:51:39.590] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006193)  
satellite offices, no?

**[04:51:42.090] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006194)  
Mas malapit sa tao,

**[04:51:44.070] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006195)  
para naman hindi, kasi

**[04:51:45.670] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006196)  
sinasama na sa

**[04:51:47.010] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006197)  
hinihingi yung pamiliti, tsaka pagkain,

**[04:51:50.450] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006198)  
pupunta sa

**[04:51:51.350] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006199)  
regional office, dahil medyo

**[04:51:53.710] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006200)  
malayo nga. So,

**[04:51:55.290] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006201)  
wala naman sigurong congressman dito.

**[04:51:57.730] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006202)  
I think most of us

**[04:51:59.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006203)  
would like,

**[04:52:01.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006204)  
na mag-invest yung government

**[04:52:04.770] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006205)  
into a multi-purpose

**[04:52:06.570] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006206)  
building through our BIPs,

**[04:52:08.470] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006207)  
na matayuan ng sariling satellite office

**[04:52:10.570] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006208)  
each district, para naman

**[04:52:12.430] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006209)  
mas malapit sa tao yung

**[04:52:14.450] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006210)  
tulong. And

**[04:52:15.850] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006211)  
mas maraming matutulungan pa.

**[04:52:18.590] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006212)  
And of course, the warehouse,

**[04:52:19.950] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006213)  
which during calamity,

**[04:52:22.430] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006214)  
disaster response would be

**[04:52:24.470] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006215)  
strategically available

**[04:52:26.330] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006216)  
with ISPO.

**[04:52:27.890] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006217)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:52:30.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006218)  
Mr. Chair, if the

**[04:52:31.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006219)  
good congressman can point us the building

**[04:52:33.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006220)  
and the warehouse, lalagyan namin ng goods

**[04:52:35.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006221)  
at ng tao.

**[04:52:37.390] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006222)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:52:41.510] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006223)  
Mr. Chair, we're here to support

**[04:52:43.930] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006224)  
the budget, and of course,

**[04:52:45.970] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006225)  
na mabalik yung

**[04:52:47.450] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006226)  
hinihingi yung budget talaga

**[04:52:48.910] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006227)  
ng DSWD.

**[04:52:50.670] Rep. Christopherson "Coco" M. Yap** (asr-006228)  
Daghang salamat. Maayong gabii kanatong tanan.

**[04:52:55.730] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006229)  
Thank you very much, Cong. Coco Yap.

**[04:53:04.720] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006230)  
We now recognize

**[04:53:05.900] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006231)  
Congressman Mark Enverga.

**[04:53:08.020] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006232)  
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

**[04:53:09.940] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006233)  
Mr. Chair, parang hindi kumakain po

**[04:53:12.080] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006234)  
si Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[04:53:15.060] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006235)  
Hindi ata gusto yung ulam

**[04:53:16.200] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006236)  
yata, Mr. Chair.

**[04:53:18.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006237)  
May food packs naman ho,

**[04:53:19.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006238)  
Mr. Chairman, sa kotse.

**[04:53:21.520] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006239)  
Ay, yung instant, Mr. Chair.

**[04:53:24.660] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006240)  
Thank you. So, good afternoon

**[04:53:25.900] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006241)  
to the DSWD family.

**[04:53:28.560] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006242)  
Unahin ko po, I wish to

**[04:53:29.920] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006243)  
commend and thank the entire

**[04:53:31.580] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006244)  
DSWD family sa napakalaki

**[04:53:33.540] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006245)  
and responsive support na

**[04:53:35.920] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006246)  
binibigay ninyo sa buong Pilipinas.

**[04:53:38.020] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006247)  
Thank you very much, not only for the

**[04:53:39.720] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006248)  
1st District of Quezon. So,

**[04:53:41.860] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006249)  
please extend my thanks also

**[04:53:43.880] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006250)  
to your staff sa ground,

**[04:53:46.340] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006251)  
di ba, na napakalaki

**[04:53:48.080] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006252)  
ng tulong. But I just

**[04:53:49.820] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006253)  
wish to ask, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chair,

**[04:53:53.280] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006254)  
yung program ng

**[04:53:53.960] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006255)  
LAWA at BINHI.

**[04:53:56.340] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006256)  
Medyo nabawasan yata tayo,

**[04:53:58.160] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006257)  
Mr. Secretary, dito sa

**[04:53:59.900] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006258)  
program natin.

**[04:54:01.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006259)  
Mr. Chair, actually,

**[04:54:03.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006260)  
actually,

**[04:54:03.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006261)  
it's in the

**[04:54:07.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006262)  
stagnant naman ho siya,

**[04:54:09.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006263)  
status quo, Mr. Chair.

**[04:54:11.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006264)  
Hindi siya nabawasan,

**[04:54:12.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006265)  
pero humihiling ho kami nadagdagan.

**[04:54:15.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006266)  
Pero hindi siya nabawasan. It's in the

**[04:54:17.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006267)  
DRRP line item.

**[04:54:19.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006268)  
So, magkamukha lang ho siya.

**[04:54:21.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006269)  
Pero ang nabawasan ng ho in implementation

**[04:54:23.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006270)  
because of the wage increase.

**[04:54:25.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006271)  
So, the amount, the global amount is

**[04:54:27.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006272)  
the same, pero the implementation, siyempre,

**[04:54:29.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006273)  
lumiit yung catchment dahil tumaas yung wage

**[04:54:31.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006274)  
hike, yung wage rates.

**[04:54:33.850] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006275)  
Yes, that's correct. Tama,

**[04:54:35.430] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006276)  
Mr. Secretary, but I think

**[04:54:37.530] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006277)  
mahalaga kasi na mataasan to.

**[04:54:39.590] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006278)  
What's the premise? I'm just curious

**[04:54:41.590] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006279)  
what would be the premise of

**[04:54:43.590] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006280)  
DBM?

**[04:54:45.250] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006281)  
Did you ask for an increase

**[04:54:46.910] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006282)  
during the budget call?

**[04:54:56.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006283)  
We did, Mr. Chair.

**[04:54:58.370] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006284)  
Magkano hiningin natin?

**[04:54:59.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006285)  
We're checking how much ang hiningin namin sa tier 2.

**[04:55:03.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006286)  
Kasi nga, we were taking into account

**[04:55:04.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006287)  
naliliit yung catchment dahil tumaas yung

**[04:55:06.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006288)  
wages. But unfortunately, hindi kami

**[04:55:08.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006289)  
napagbigyan because nga of the tight

**[04:55:10.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006290)  
fiscal space.

**[04:55:11.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006291)  
We asked for the total amount

**[04:55:14.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006292)  
is 3.3 billion compared to the

**[04:55:16.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006293)  
2.8, sorry, 1.8

**[04:55:18.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006294)  
that's in the books right now.

**[04:55:20.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006295)  
So, 1.1 billion.

**[04:55:22.770] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006296)  
Okay. So,

**[04:55:23.870] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006297)  
would there be an explanation from DBM

**[04:55:26.530] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006298)  
ba't hindi kayo pinagbigyan, Mr. Chair?

**[04:55:28.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006299)  
Tight fiscal space, Mr. Chair.

**[04:55:30.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006300)  
All the cuts na hindi kami napagbigyan,

**[04:55:33.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006301)  
all the departments were, and I do

**[04:55:34.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006302)  
understand, clamoring for more, and

**[04:55:36.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006303)  
isa to doon sa mahiningin namin na hindi napagbigyan.

**[04:55:38.990] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006304)  
Yes, thank you. I raise this point, Mr.

**[04:55:40.510] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006305)  
Chair, Mr. Secretary, kasi

**[04:55:42.150] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006306)  
I think this is a brainchild

**[04:55:44.690] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006307)  
of yours, diba, this program.

**[04:55:46.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006308)  
Actually, Mr. Chair, it's a brainchild

**[04:55:48.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006309)  
of the team, na hindi lang naman ako.

**[04:55:50.650] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006310)  
Yes, so I wish to

**[04:55:52.490] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006311)  
once again commend DSWD and the

**[04:55:54.550] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006312)  
Secretary.

**[04:55:56.470] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006313)  
Siyempre kasi nanggaling to sa, dahil

**[04:55:58.550] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006314)  
sa El Nino yata, yung issue natin

**[04:56:00.750] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006315)  
noon. And I think,

**[04:56:02.080] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006316)  
as PAGASA predicted, this is the worst.

**[04:56:05.630] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006317)  
El Nino, we will be

**[04:56:06.630] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006318)  
facing next year.

**[04:56:08.630] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006319)  
So, I don't understand

**[04:56:10.630] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006320)  
kung bakit hindi kayo pinagbigyan

**[04:56:12.590] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006321)  
dito na napakahalaga

**[04:56:14.510] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006322)  
at napakaganda at tested na programa na ito.

**[04:56:16.790] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006323)  
So,

**[04:56:18.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006324)  
Tama ho, Mr. Chair.

**[04:56:20.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006325)  
Coming from the long-standing chairman

**[04:56:22.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006326)  
of the Agri Committee, the

**[04:56:24.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006327)  
small water impoundment

**[04:56:26.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006328)  
that's community-based that's happening

**[04:56:28.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006329)  
nationwide, the thousands that we've built over

**[04:56:30.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006330)  
the years, are actually helping in food

**[04:56:32.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006331)  
security and water security.

**[04:56:34.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006332)  
So, sana, bagamat hindi na

**[04:56:36.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006333)  
namin nilista sa napakahaba namin

**[04:56:38.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006334)  
listahan, sana ho makonsider again

**[04:56:40.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006335)  
yung pagdagdag ng

**[04:56:42.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006336)  
budget for the LAWA at BINHI, which

**[04:56:44.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006337)  
is housed under the Disaster Resilience,

**[04:56:46.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006338)  
Program of the Department.

**[04:56:49.070] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006339)  
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:56:51.130] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006340)  
Also, Mr. Chair, I think you

**[04:56:52.810] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006341)  
do have a program for potable water

**[04:56:55.030] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006342)  
systems needed

**[04:56:56.830] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006343)  
for

**[04:56:57.810] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006344)  
emergency areas

**[04:57:01.010] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006345)  
na mga

**[04:57:01.930] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006346)  
mga siguro

**[04:57:04.950] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006347)  
disaster hit areas.

**[04:57:07.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006348)  
Mr. Chairman, the pilot that's

**[04:57:08.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006349)  
running right now is housed in the

**[04:57:11.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006350)  
community-driven development.

**[04:57:13.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006351)  
We are actually about, we're

**[04:57:14.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006352)  
not looking at it just from a paradigm of

**[04:57:16.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006353)  
emergency response, but we're looking at those

**[04:57:18.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006354)  
communities na walang potable

**[04:57:20.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006355)  
and constant source

**[04:57:22.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006356)  
of water. So, we embarked on

**[04:57:24.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006357)  
this pilot that we're about to open in

**[04:57:26.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006358)  
Masbate, where an island has been

**[04:57:28.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006359)  
suffering from chronic water

**[04:57:30.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006360)  
shortage. It's an air-to-waters

**[04:57:32.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006361)  
technology that hopefully

**[04:57:34.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006362)  
works. And from all indications,

**[04:57:37.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006363)  
it was working. Medyo nahirapan lang kami

**[04:57:38.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006364)  
to get the necessary certifications

**[04:57:40.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006365)  
na yung lumalabas sa tubig e pasado.

**[04:57:43.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006366)  
But now, everything's online.

**[04:57:44.830] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006367)  
Yes, thank you. Mr. Chair, so,

**[04:57:46.750] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006368)  
would the good secretary be supporting

**[04:57:48.390] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006369)  
such an initiative that

**[04:57:49.990] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006370)  
we increase the, is it part of the

**[04:57:52.650] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006371)  
proposal for the augmentation?

**[04:57:54.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006372)  
Mr. Chairman, we did not put it

**[04:57:56.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006373)  
there because ang haba-haba na ng listahan

**[04:57:58.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006374)  
namin, medyo nahiharing kami dahil 58

**[04:58:00.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006375)  
billion na ho yung listahan namin.

**[04:58:02.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006376)  
Pero kung gusto ho nyo, ilalagay ho namin doon.

**[04:58:05.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006377)  
It's part of the

**[04:58:06.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006378)  
community-driven development

**[04:58:08.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006379)  
portfolio. Kalahi yan.

**[04:58:10.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006380)  
Kalahi seeds yan.

**[04:58:12.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006381)  
Matutuwa ho yung director namin dyan kasi nga

**[04:58:14.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006382)  
hindi na namin sinubmit yung mahabang listahan.

**[04:58:16.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006383)  
We submitted to you an abridged

**[04:58:18.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006384)  
long list. But Mr. Chairman,

**[04:58:21.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006385)  
chronic water shortage

**[04:58:22.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006386)  
not just during times of disaster

**[04:58:24.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006387)  
is a problem that we have to deal with.

**[04:58:27.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006388)  
Stunting is related to that.

**[04:58:29.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006389)  
And then, yung

**[04:58:30.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006390)  
pag tinamaan tayo ng disaster and we have to pull

**[04:58:32.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006391)  
those mobile equipment,

**[04:58:35.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006392)  
napakahirap logistically

**[04:58:36.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006393)  
like what's happening in our disaster site.

**[04:58:38.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006394)  
So, we're looking at it from a cost efficiency

**[04:58:40.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006395)  
of both. Addressing chronic water

**[04:58:42.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006396)  
shortage for stunting and

**[04:58:44.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006397)  
waterless communities, but a permanent

**[04:58:46.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006398)  
solution kung tamaan

**[04:58:48.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006399)  
sila ng disaster. So, we

**[04:58:50.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006400)  
will be submitting

**[04:58:53.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006401)  
now that you've directed us to do so.

**[04:58:55.590] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006402)  
Yes, thank you. So, we hope

**[04:58:56.950] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006403)  
that medyo

**[04:58:58.630] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006404)  
miiling lang si Yusek da yan.

**[04:59:00.630] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006405)  
Parang nung sinasabi.

**[04:59:03.010] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006406)  
Doon sa support.

**[04:59:04.550] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006407)  
But anyway, Mr. Secretary, so

**[04:59:06.430] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006408)  
I guess this is something important that

**[04:59:08.390] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006409)  
of course it's a wish list

**[04:59:10.650] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006410)  
that we will be

**[04:59:12.830] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006411)  
supporting. Especially

**[04:59:14.810] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006412)  
after hearing from your, with your

**[04:59:16.750] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006413)  
explanation, doon sa need, of the

**[04:59:18.870] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006414)  
need of the mobile water

**[04:59:20.570] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006415)  
potable water systems.

**[04:59:22.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006416)  
Mr. Chairman, both accounts are crucial.

**[04:59:25.550] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006417)  
Small community-based

**[04:59:26.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006418)  
water impounding,

**[04:59:28.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006419)  
LAWA at BINHI. Long-term

**[04:59:30.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006420)  
solutions for, long-term

**[04:59:32.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006421)  
solution for waterless communities.

**[04:59:35.330] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006422)  
These are basic necessities.

**[04:59:37.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006423)  
Water necessity. This is

**[04:59:38.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006424)  
a basic necessity. So, we will

**[04:59:40.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006425)  
amend our submission to include

**[04:59:42.950] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006426)  
LAWA at BINHI and the

**[04:59:45.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006427)  
potable,

**[04:59:46.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006428)  
water, 20 million lang po yun eh.

**[04:59:50.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006429)  
Water

**[04:59:50.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006430)  
solution for waterless communities.

**[04:59:53.810] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006431)  
Oh, thank you very much, Mr.

**[04:59:55.010] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006432)  
Secretary. So,

**[04:59:56.510] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006433)  
may I know if may

**[04:59:58.770] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006434)  
our regional

**[05:00:00.000] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006435)  
Director is also present.

**[05:00:02.540] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006436)  
Hindi kasi sumasagot sa mga tawag ko yata.

**[05:00:05.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006437)  
Ayan, ayan.

**[05:00:07.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006438)  
Nasaan si Barry?

**[05:00:09.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006439)  
...

**[05:00:11.420] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006440)  
Yeah, yeah.

**[05:00:11.880] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006441)  
...

**[05:00:12.680] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006442)  
Maraming maraming salamat sa support.

**[05:00:14.520] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006443)  
So, with that, Mr. Secretary, we fully support your budget and we look forward to the additional submissions to this Honorable Committee, Mr. Chair, na masuportahan pa natin yung pangangailangan ninyo.

**[05:00:26.360] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006444)  
Thank you very much.

**[05:00:27.460] Rep. Wilfrido Mark M. Enverga** (asr-006445)  
Congratulations, Mr. Secretary.

**[05:00:29.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006446)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[05:00:30.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006447)  
Thank you, Congressman Enverga.

**[05:00:31.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006448)  
Bagamat planted yung pagbati niyo kay Barry.

**[05:00:36.620] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006448-split-2)  
Thank you. Thank you very much.

**[05:00:39.510] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006449)  
Mark, we would like to acknowledge Deputy Majority Leader, Kong Howard Ginto, Representative Guido Garbin, and Representative Dino Yulo.

**[05:01:00.620] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006450)  
We

**[05:01:02.360] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006458)  
proceed. We recognize Kong Howard.

**[05:01:13.790] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006458-split-2)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon to the DSWD family,

**[05:01:16.520] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006459)  
Secretary Rex. First and foremost, I would like to thank our good secretary. Last year,

**[05:01:23.060] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006460)  
October and November, we suffered a, I couldn't explain what it was. It's the hardest time

**[05:01:32.200] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006461)  
in our province. And the secretary, together with his team, was there immediately. I think

**[05:01:52.480] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006462)  
it was only overnight or in the two nights with, excuse me, Diane, was there. And not

**[05:01:59.520] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006463)  
just once, but twice in a span.

**[05:02:02.200] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006464)  
So, Mr. Secretary, thank you for your prompt response. With that, I would like to ask about

**[05:02:13.400] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006465)  
the Kalahe program. As we mentioned, during that calamity, marami po sa aming mga small

**[05:02:19.740] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006466)  
bridges, kasi marami po kami mga island barangay, talaga pong na-wipe out. And in this small

**[05:02:27.080] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006467)  
barangay, meron pong mga eskwelahan. And I just don't have the pictures right now.

**[05:02:32.200] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006468)  
May mga estudyante po kaming tumatawid po papunta sa isang eskwelahan na tumatawid ng tubig

**[05:02:38.980] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006469)  
na hanggang bewang po yung ano, because na-wipe out po yung kanilang mga foot bridges. So,

**[05:02:43.440] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006470)  
we wanted to ask how, what are the parameters or requirements in availing of this program?

**[05:02:54.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006471)  
Mr. Chairman, yung Kalahe kasi is a big line item. Marami ang laman. There's zero in.

**[05:03:03.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006472)  
So, we have one GOP na local funded, which is to the amount of 300 million.

**[05:03:12.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006473)  
The locally funded is around 300 million. Now, the criteria is very simple. We look at the poverty incidents. We look at the capacity of the LGU.

**[05:03:33.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006474)  
na nakaraan ba ay maganda

**[05:03:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006475)  
yung implementasyon. Kasi kung

**[05:03:38.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006476)  
matatandaan natin, may counterparting ito.

**[05:03:40.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006477)  
The whole concept is empowering the community, ownership of the community, pero mag-front kayo ng 20%, not in cash but in sweat equity.

**[05:03:49.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006478)  
Now, yung KALAHI, the bigger program itself, that was running for 20, 30 years, naubos na ho yung pondo niya

**[05:03:55.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006479)  
because it's a World Bank loan

**[05:03:59.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006480)  
that was extinguished last year.

**[05:04:02.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006481)  
Ang successor program niya is called the Panahon ng Pagkilos.

**[05:04:06.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006482)  
It's a line item again.

**[05:04:08.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006483)  
Pretty much the same concept, except that it looks for disaster resilience program as an added dimension.

**[05:04:14.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006484)  
So poverty, stunting, presence of vulnerable communities, including IPs,

**[05:04:19.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006485)  
and the prevalence of disasters so that we can come up with disaster-resilient plans or sub-projects.

**[05:04:25.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006486)  
And do we have any budget allocated for this for the following fiscal year?

**[05:04:31.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006487)  
Meron po, because it's an ODA.

**[05:04:33.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006488)  
But like most ODAs, naka-prescribed na when we submitted the list of target LGUs.

**[05:04:39.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006489)  
What we can do right now is to submit to the committee and your office the different LGUs that made the cut for CAPIS,

**[05:04:46.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006490)  
both for locally funded and at the same time for the ODA that I mentioned for community-driven development.

**[05:04:54.100] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006491)  
Thank you for that.

**[05:04:55.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006492)  
Secretary, and right now, could you say that the requested budget is sufficient?

**[05:05:03.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006493)  
It never is, Mr. Chairman.

**[05:05:05.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006494)  
And we hope that you can also look into this.

**[05:05:07.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006495)  
Pero pahabaan na ng pahabaan listahan namin.

**[05:05:09.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006496)  
Baka hindi na talaga kami ma-entertain.

**[05:05:11.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006497)  
Kasi dagdag kami ng dagdag sa listahan.

**[05:05:14.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006498)  
But it's a good program because it empowers communities and it brings development into the far-flung areas.

**[05:05:20.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006499)  
Maliit man yung proyekto, but meaningful.

**[05:05:22.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006500)  
Kasi katulad ng sinabi nyo, tulay na araw-araw ginagamit.

**[05:05:25.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006501)  
Water system na araw-araw ginagamit.

**[05:05:28.540] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006502)  
Tama po, Mr. Chair.

**[05:05:29.960] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006503)  
We'll see.

**[05:05:30.780] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006504)  
Maybe our appropriations may allocate additional budget for that.

**[05:05:36.200] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006505)  
My next question, although actually it's been raised already several times by our fellow congressmen,

**[05:05:41.400] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006506)  
so I think I would just manifest.

**[05:05:43.700] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006507)  
The SLP program that you have established is really helping a lot of associations,

**[05:05:51.740] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006508)  
not just in my district, but nationwide.

**[05:05:55.320] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006509)  
And I hope our Committee on Appropriations may add, I heard that kulang po ng P1 billion, tama po, based on our request.

**[05:06:09.540] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006510)  
Our Vice Chairman of Appropriations is here.

**[05:06:13.940] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006511)  
Maybe we can prioritize ito pong SLP.

**[05:06:18.200] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006512)  
Karamihan po ng mga congressmen, naninig po natin, ito, much favored po nila talaga yung SLP program.

**[05:06:24.540] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006513)  
Because it not just empowers the communities, it really changes the lives of our constituents.

**[05:06:31.840] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006514)  
So with that, I would like to end my manifestation.

**[05:06:37.460] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006515)  
Mr. Chair, yun lang po.

**[05:06:38.500] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006516)  
Baka pwede po natin tugunan yung pangailangan ng DSWD with regards to the SLP program.

**[05:06:44.420] Rep. Ivan Howard A. Guintu** (asr-006517)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[05:06:46.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006518)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[05:06:47.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006518-split-2)  
Thank you. Good congressman.

**[05:06:53.560] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006519)  
Thank you, Cong Howard.

**[05:06:57.020] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006520)  
You now recognize.

**[05:06:59.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006521)  
Dino Yulo.

**[05:07:01.840] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006522)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:07:03.840] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006523)  
Good afternoon, my colleagues, most especially good afternoon to the whole DSWD family.

**[05:07:07.800] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006524)  
Secretary, good afternoon.

**[05:07:09.800] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006525)  
This is quite short, just a manifestation.

**[05:07:12.800] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006526)  
Our district is heavily ravaged by Typhoon Tino.

**[05:07:16.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006527)  
I think many of you were there.

**[05:07:18.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006528)  
We had a number of hanging bridges then built under the Kalahi Seeds program.

**[05:07:24.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006529)  
I think almost all were destroyed during the Typhoon Tino.

**[05:07:28.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006530)  
So maybe you can take a look at those hanging bridges.

**[05:07:32.260] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006531)  
But more importantly, we'd just like to thank you and commend the DSWD.

**[05:07:38.580] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006532)  
Our district was not only ravaged by Typhoon Tino, we have underwent maybe four or five eruptions of Mount Kanlaon and just recently the devastation of the sugar industry with the red-striped soft scale insect.

**[05:07:53.220] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006533)  
In all of this, I think our able partner has been the DSWD.

**[05:07:56.880] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006534)  
So thank you.

**[05:07:58.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006535)  
Secretary, the whole DSWD family, and a special commendation to our, I don't know if it's here, our regional director, Director Arwin.

**[05:08:07.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006536)  
Thank you, regional director Arwin.

**[05:08:09.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006537)  
Thank you, sir.

**[05:08:10.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006538)  
Mr. Chair, we'll look into those Kalahi bridges.

**[05:08:12.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006539)  
Yes, please.

**[05:08:13.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006540)  
We'll make sure that we get the list of the ones that were destroyed and try to figure out what we can do to repair them.

**[05:08:17.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006541)  
Okay, thank you.

**[05:08:18.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006542)  
Thank you, Secretary.

**[05:08:20.380] Rep. Emilio Bernardino L. Yulo** (asr-006543)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:08:22.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006544)  
Thank you, Mr. Dino.

**[05:08:26.940] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006545)  
We now recognize Cong. Garbin.

**[05:08:29.940] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006546)  
Thank you.

**[05:08:32.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006547)  
Thank you, Chair.

**[05:08:33.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006548)  
Magandang hapon po to the SEC.

**[05:08:35.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006549)  
Magandang hapon to the DSWD family.

**[05:08:38.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006550)  
My question pertains to the implementation of Republic Act 9344.

**[05:08:44.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006551)  
Since the DSWD is at the center of implementing the diversion program through the Juvenile Justice Council,

**[05:09:00.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006552)  
the recent event, one that happened in Tacloban, the other one in Zamboanga,

**[05:09:11.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006553)  
discloses some of the loopholes and weaknesses of the existing law.

**[05:09:20.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006554)  
Some of the findings were the failure because of the,

**[05:09:27.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006555)  
the functional, lack of functional well-budgeted establishment,

**[05:09:39.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006556)  
especially referring to the Bahay Pag-asa that will manage the intervention program of these children in conflict with the law.

**[05:09:55.080] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006557)  
May I inquire, Mr. Secretary, whether the proposed budget,

**[05:10:01.110] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006559)  
for 2027 includes a budget for the establishment of Bahay Pag-asa in different localities,

**[05:10:08.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006560)  
especially in big cities and urban areas?

**[05:10:12.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006561)  
That's a very relevant and timely question.

**[05:10:15.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006562)  
In the JJWA, the LGUs are the ones tasked to build and fund and operate the Bahay Pag-asas.

**[05:10:22.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006563)  
The DSWD's main role is to set the standards,

**[05:10:25.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006564)  
to monitor the progress of the intervention programs.

**[05:10:29.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006565)  
Pero years later, we have given the data na highly urbanized cities don't have Bahay Pag-asas,

**[05:10:34.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006566)  
a lot of the provinces do not.

**[05:10:36.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006567)  
Kaya nga kanina nung tinanong ako,

**[05:10:38.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006568)  
is it time to revisit the JJWA?

**[05:10:42.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006569)  
Yes, in the sense na dapat natin lagyan ng provision for the national government to step in already,

**[05:10:48.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006570)  
because hindi natin makita yung full fruition ng restorative justice kung wala hong mga Bahay Pag-asa na ito.

**[05:10:53.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006571)  
Pangalawa,

**[05:10:55.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006572)  
last year, because of the lack of Bahay Pag-asa,

**[05:10:58.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006573)  
the Congress and the Senate gave us a new creature called the Regional Bahay Pag-asa.

**[05:11:04.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006574)  
Five.

**[05:11:05.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006575)  
We're not fully funded, initially funded.

**[05:11:08.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006576)  
We're still waiting for the SARO to be released,

**[05:11:11.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006577)  
pero we're constantly following up because naka-for-later-release siya.

**[05:11:14.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006578)  
But the authorities in DBM understand the magnitude na kailangan masimulan na ito.

**[05:11:19.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006579)  
But Mr. Chairman, let me point out na bagama't wala yang mga Bahay Pag-asa,

**[05:11:25.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006580)  
meron pang isang provision na last year nilagay sa libro ng DSWD, or sa budget ng DSWD.

**[05:11:30.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006581)  
Yun yung ability namin na mag-farm out ng services for private social welfare and development agencies,

**[05:11:38.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006582)  
kasi may mga private naman eh,

**[05:11:40.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006583)  
na pwede kami magbayad ng cost of care.

**[05:11:43.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006584)  
So inaantay na lang namin yung final go signal because the guidelines are being drafted already,

**[05:11:48.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006585)  
together with DBM and COA.

**[05:11:50.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006586)  
Once we do that, we can now refer clients to

**[05:11:53.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006587)  
existing private facilities that can rehabilitate

**[05:11:58.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006588)  
and hopefully reintegrate with the right intervention plan,

**[05:12:02.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006589)  
our CICLs.

**[05:12:04.470] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006590)  
Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

**[05:12:07.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006591)  
I fully understand the situation of the SWD.

**[05:12:13.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006592)  
But as you know, those referrals will only be very limited,

**[05:12:18.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006593)  
especially if cases such as Samboanga Tacloban

**[05:12:24.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006594)  
and cases that will happen in far-flung areas.

**[05:12:28.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006595)  
And so before we speak of intervention and their version program

**[05:12:33.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006596)  
that could be implemented by the council to be managed by DSWD,

**[05:12:37.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006597)  
I hope that the national government will also have an intervention

**[05:12:42.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006598)  
in giving funds to those localities that can,

**[05:12:46.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006599)  
because not everyone can afford this Bahay Pag-asa.

**[05:12:51.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006600)  
And I hope that this,

**[05:12:54.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006601)  
intervention by the national government in coming up with those funds

**[05:12:59.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006602)  
to be allocated for those local government units

**[05:13:02.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006603)  
and that can maintain this Bahay Pag-asa.

**[05:13:05.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006604)  
My second question is,

**[05:13:07.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006605)  
considering that there were so many proposals

**[05:13:12.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006606)  
in lowering the age of criminal responsibility,

**[05:13:17.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006607)  
what is your take on this several proposals?

**[05:13:23.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006608)  
Well, some are saying that the innocence that we are protecting

**[05:13:28.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006609)  
20 years ago when we adopt and approve this law,

**[05:13:36.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006610)  
Republic Act 9344,

**[05:13:38.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006611)  
is no longer existing in this present time,

**[05:13:45.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006612)  
considering that, you know,

**[05:13:47.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006613)  
minors right now, their maturity comes early

**[05:13:50.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006614)  
because of their exposure

**[05:13:52.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006615)  
to social media and they become more exposed,

**[05:13:55.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006616)  
more informed and more daring.

**[05:13:58.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006617)  
What is your take on lowering the age of criminal responsibility?

**[05:14:03.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006618)  
Some are proposing from 15 to 12 years of age.

**[05:14:07.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006619)  
Like in other jurisdictions, as young as 10,

**[05:14:10.100] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006620)  
like Singapore, criminal responsibility already attached.

**[05:14:15.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006621)  
Mr. Chair, I take the position of all our child welfare advocates

**[05:14:19.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006622)  
that we are against lowering down

**[05:14:21.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006623)  
the minimum age of criminal liability.

**[05:14:24.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006624)  
We do not want to lower it for the following reasons.

**[05:14:27.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006625)  
Number one, we have not yet fully implemented the law,

**[05:14:31.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006626)  
yet we want to lower it down again.

**[05:14:33.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006627)  
I think we have to fulfill the provisions,

**[05:14:36.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006628)  
as you pointed out, by the law,

**[05:14:38.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006629)  
before we can say whether the law is successful

**[05:14:41.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006630)  
or whether it's effective or not effective.

**[05:14:44.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006631)  
Pangalawa, after my discussions with Secretary Vida,

**[05:14:47.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006632)  
medyo mahirapan rin tayo i-justify sa world stage,

**[05:14:50.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006633)  
that from the age of 15,

**[05:14:54.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006634)  
14, no, 15, 15,

**[05:14:57.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006635)  
biglang ibababa natin,

**[05:14:59.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006636)  
para tayong

**[05:15:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006637)  
counterintuitive while everybody is doing that. But I do understand where this notion is coming from.

**[05:15:05.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006638)  
and in one of the hearings in the senate uh the lowering of the minimum age the science doesn't

**[05:15:12.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006639)  
show it. The part of the brain of the child, and numerous literature shows na hindi pa siya

**[05:15:19.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006640)  
fully nagde-develop. In fact, without going into too much detail because I'm barred from doing so

**[05:15:24.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006641)  
ng jjwa to discuss in in there are other risk factors not just the age we have to address the

**[05:15:31.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006642)  
root cause of the problem as the child psychologist and child psychiatrist handling the takloban case

**[05:15:36.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006643)  
pointed out now one risk factor on the individual two risk factor on the family three risk factor on

**[05:15:44.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006644)  
the community, schools, bullying; and four, risk factor na mismo on what's available online.

**[05:15:52.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006645)  
i think we can address the

**[05:15:54.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006646)  
this if we address those various risk factors, not just lowering the age. Kumbaga yung bata na hindi pa fully nagde-develop yung kanyang pag-iisip, ilayo na natin dito sa mga risk factor na maaaring itulak siya na gawin yung hindi niya dapat ginagawa.

**[05:16:13.200] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006647)  
thank you for that uh this is secretary we fully acknowledge that parents parental

**[05:16:16.560] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006648)  
responsibility is at the core of this one and we always say that discipline starts at home

**[05:16:24.240] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006649)  
but

**[05:16:24.480] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006650)  
uh if we can infer on the attack loban case that 14 and 15 years old they know

**[05:16:33.920] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006651)  
fully well what they are doing in fact they studied the law and use it in their favor um

**[05:16:43.120] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006652)  
when they studied the law they say that they will escape criminal responsibility so those are the

**[05:16:49.840] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006653)  
uh the the inference that we can take that a 14 year old or a

**[05:16:54.240] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006654)  
15 year old or a 14 year old has this full mental capacity to know the full consequences of this

**[05:17:03.360] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006655)  
unlawful act

**[05:17:06.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006655-split-2)  
mr chairman if i may be allowed to respond on a general term because again i cannot

**[05:17:09.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006656)  
be talking about an ongoing case that pertains minors more so not just legally but ethically

**[05:17:16.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006657)  
Yung child psychologist at child psychiatrist

**[05:17:19.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006658)  
na may hawak doon sa dalawang bata natin says, 'Let's not just look at the top line.'

**[05:17:26.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006659)  
Top line, yes, mukhang alam nila. But in deeper inference, they didn't understand. Napaka-magical nung kanilang pag-intindi. Yung isa sabi niya, 'Oo, hindi tayo makukulong,' kasi ang babaw ng pagkaintindi niya doon sa batas. In fact, akala niya pwede na siya umuwi afterwards.

**[05:17:46.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006660)  
Post, post, and I will end my statement with this.

**[05:17:49.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006661)  
Post-evaluation after a month

**[05:17:51.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006662)  
or two, ngayon lang nila naiintindihan yung severity or yung consequences ng pangyayari.

**[05:17:56.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006663)  
so there again it shows that the development of the child

**[05:17:59.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006664)  
mentally is not fully enough to comprehend the consequences more so

**[05:18:06.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006665)  
ang tawag nga nila sa psychological terms, when I spoke to the consultant, magical.

**[05:18:11.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006666)  
Akala nila the incidents do not have the necessary consequences.

**[05:18:18.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006667)  
Babalik-balikan ko po yung developmental

**[05:18:20.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006668)  
stages are still not there, or the mental acumen or the capacities to

**[05:18:25.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006669)  
understand

**[05:18:26.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006670)  
wala ho doon. Alam niya,

**[05:18:28.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006671)  
pinag-aralan

**[05:18:28.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006672)  
niya, pero

**[05:18:29.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006673)  
mali

**[05:18:30.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006674)  
rin yung

**[05:18:30.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006675)  
kanyang

**[05:18:31.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006676)  
pagkakaunawa,

**[05:18:32.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006677)  
more so

**[05:18:32.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006678)  
hindi niya

**[05:18:32.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006679)  
naiintindihan

**[05:18:33.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006680)  
yung consequences because of his own lack of development

**[05:18:43.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006692)  
but also the risk factors na na-expose siya, sila.

**[05:18:46.240] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006693)  
Well, thank you, Mr. Secretary. I don't question

**[05:18:49.280] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006695)  
the noble intention of the law, which is really to a child-centered and restorative policy. What I'm trying to discuss here is the

**[05:18:57.040] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006696)  
ineptness of the law in implementing the same which is one is the lack of

**[05:19:04.320] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006697)  
another establishment that will implement those integration and diversion program and second is

**[05:19:10.880] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006698)  
also to strike the balance between protecting the innocence and at the same time giving justice

**[05:19:16.960] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006699)  
uh to the victims because if we don't do that then then we will uh left them with a sense of

**[05:19:24.640] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006700)  
injustice. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

**[05:19:28.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006700-split-2)  
Mr. Chairman, if I may just be allowed to jump in one more time

**[05:19:31.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006701)  
we totally agree and we will leave it to the open discussion uh that will happen in the legislative

**[05:19:35.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006702)  
process but if there's one angle to look at and i'm not sure if the uh everybody's been

**[05:19:41.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006703)  
looking at this in this case the 14 year old that has no

**[05:19:46.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006704)  
discernment yes we will intervene yes we will do the diversion if that

**[05:19:54.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006705)  
happen diversion because the court will not take cognizance of him

**[05:19:57.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006706)  
so we will try we are trying our best to do the interventions but the biggest problem there is

**[05:20:02.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006707)  
the law never saw the case where in the 14 year old but what if i'm not saying that it will not

**[05:20:09.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006708)  
happen? What if we can't rehabilitate? Tatanda at tatanda

**[05:20:14.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006709)  
siya sa center nang wala siyang klarong

**[05:20:18.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006710)  
escape—exit, sorry, exit mechanism, unlike the other one na pag merong discernment after the age of majority meron siyang exit mechanism, whether sa regular na kulungan or ibabalik sa komunidad.

**[05:20:28.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006711)  
but in this case i don't think the law foresaw the 14 uh those that without age of without the

**[05:20:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006712)  
discernment the who commit heinous crimes who we will later on let's say

**[05:20:40.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006713)  
sabihin naming hindi namin kaya i-rehabilitate; wala siyang pupuntahan kundi maiwan sa amin.

**[05:20:49.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006714)  
So that's something that we might have to look at and further categorize

**[05:20:53.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006715)  
it. But again I leave it to the good Congress to further legislate.

**[05:20:58.680] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006715-split-2)  
Well, just to add to that, there are some

**[05:21:01.000] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006716)  
good proposals pending before the committees and it's still a child centered and maintains the

**[05:21:06.640] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006717)  
restorative policy it's just it's just lower the age of criminal responsibility but

**[05:21:12.640] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006718)  
as to the suspension automatic suspension of sentence it is retained

**[05:21:16.960] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006719)  
so the confidentiality of records is still retained and at the same time the intervention

**[05:21:21.680] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006720)  
and their version program will still be retained it's just that the proposal is just to lower

**[05:21:28.000] Rep. Alfredo A. "Pido" Garbin Jr.** (asr-006721)  
the criminal age of responsibility. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[05:21:31.880] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006721-split-2)  
Thank you, Kong Pido.

**[05:21:39.180] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006722)  
Thank you po. We now recognize Cong. Eli San Fernando.

**[05:21:44.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006723)  
thank you mr chair mr secretary

**[05:21:46.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006725)  
Magandang hapon po sa DSWD family. Magandang hapon po sa inyo. Una, nagpapasalamat po kami, Secretary, dahil sa mabilis na pagtugon ng inyong ahensya

**[05:21:59.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006726)  
sa mga kababayan natin na talagang nasalanta ng mga pagbagyo recently.

**[05:22:02.860] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006727)  
And we commend DSWD for that,

**[05:22:05.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006728)  
mabilis po na pag-aksyon ng inyong kagawaran.

**[05:22:07.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006729)  
May ilan lang pong mga paglilinaw,

**[05:22:09.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006730)  
Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chair,

**[05:22:12.220] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006731)  
patungkol po sa ating mga kasama

**[05:22:15.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006732)  
at kaibigan sa FSL community. Mga Deaf community po ito at ang mga tanong ko po ay patungkol

**[05:22:21.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006737)  
sa Filipino Sign Language Interpreters.

**[05:22:23.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006738)  
So, unang tanong po under

**[05:22:25.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006739)  
Republic Act 7277

**[05:22:27.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006740)  
or the Magna Carta for Disabled Persons

**[05:22:29.620] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006741)  
at meron din pong administrative

**[05:22:31.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006742)  
order ang DSWD number

**[05:22:32.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006743)  
2003-59

**[05:22:35.300] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006744)  
the department is mandated

**[05:22:37.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006745)  
to provide auxiliary social

**[05:22:39.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006746)  
services for persons

**[05:22:41.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006747)  
with disabilities including

**[05:22:43.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006748)  
qualified sign language

**[05:22:45.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006749)  
interpretation. So, may

**[05:22:47.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006750)  
we ask the department to present

**[05:22:49.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006751)  
its actual compliance

**[05:22:50.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006752)  
particularly in terms of

**[05:22:53.020] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006753)  
appropriations, programs, and services

**[05:22:55.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006754)  
for FSL interpretation.

**[05:22:58.720] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006755)  
At magkano po

**[05:22:59.580] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006756)  
ang nailaan na,

**[05:23:01.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006757)  
na obligate na, ng DSWD

**[05:23:03.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006758)  
for this sa taong

**[05:23:05.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006759)  
2026 at magkano

**[05:23:07.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006760)  
naman po yung ilalaan

**[05:23:09.460] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006761)  
ng inyong ahensya sa susunod na taon?

**[05:23:12.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006762)  
Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary.

**[05:23:15.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006763)  
Mr. Chairman, the evaluation of that

**[05:23:17.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006764)  
or the assessment of that as well as the funding

**[05:23:19.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006765)  
component of that lies with one

**[05:23:20.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006766)  
of our attached agency, the National

**[05:23:22.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006767)  
Commission on Disability Affairs.

**[05:23:23.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006768)  
The Executive Director will be the one

**[05:23:25.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006769)  
taking this question.

**[05:23:27.380] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006770)  
With the indulgence of the good

**[05:23:28.580] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006771)  
Secretary and Mr. Chair.

**[05:23:30.420] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006772)  
So, ang fund po is nasa

**[05:23:32.600] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006773)  
NCDA under the augmentation

**[05:23:34.640] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006774)  
but usually, nanggagaling po ito

**[05:23:36.980] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006775)  
from the PCSO

**[05:23:39.400] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006776)  
which is very small lang po.

**[05:23:41.940] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006777)  
And the provision of FSL po,

**[05:23:43.860] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006778)  
itong ating mga interpreter is

**[05:23:45.540] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006779)  
by, as need arises,

**[05:23:47.620] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006780)  
depending po doon sa mga sumusulat po sa amin

**[05:23:51.340] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006785)  
who are needing interpreters po.

**[05:23:55.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006786)  
Pu pwede nalang po ba kami makahingi

**[05:23:57.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006787)  
ng mga kaukulang datos po

**[05:24:01.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006788)  
regarding po sa

**[05:24:03.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006789)  
mga hinihingi ko po na datos dito,

**[05:24:05.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006790)  
Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chair?

**[05:24:07.620] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006791)  
Yes, Mr. Chair.

**[05:24:08.940] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006792)  
NCDA will provide you the list of

**[05:24:11.540] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006793)  
provision that were given by NCDA

**[05:24:14.260] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006794)  
in the past three years po.

**[05:24:15.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006795)  
Thank you po. Maraming salamat.

**[05:24:17.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006796)  
Mr. Chair, alam naman po natin na yung

**[05:24:20.420] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006797)  
frontline auxiliary services devolved po yan, diba?

**[05:24:23.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006798)  
So, papaano po ang suportang ibinibigay ng DSWD,

**[05:24:28.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006799)  
particularly ng inyong inyong pong ahensya,

**[05:24:30.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006800)  
sa mga LGU na walang kapasidad na suportahan o tumugon

**[05:24:34.540] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006801)  
dito sa mga auxiliary services neto,

**[05:24:36.500] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006802)  
particularly on FSL interpreters?

**[05:24:39.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006803)  
At meron po ba tayong datos?

**[05:24:42.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006804)  
Ilan sa mga syudad at munisipalidad

**[05:24:45.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006805)  
yung may access at walang access sa mga FSL interpreters?

**[05:24:50.420] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006806)  
Yes, Mr. Chair.

**[05:24:52.420] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006807)  
Currently po, wala po kaming nare-receive na request

**[05:24:55.300] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006808)  
from the LGU in terms of the assistance for interpreters.

**[05:24:59.700] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006809)  
What we receive are requests from the national government agencies

**[05:25:03.940] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006810)  
which we provided.

**[05:25:05.340] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006811)  
However, kailan lang po nag-meeting po kami

**[05:25:08.660] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006812)  
sa ilang organizations of deaf within the country

**[05:25:13.420] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006813)  
at napag-usapan po namin which we proposed also to the DSWD Academy

**[05:25:19.060] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006814)  
to provide po.

**[05:25:20.260] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006815)  
So, we have a curriculum for each LGU na magkaroon po tayo ng

**[05:25:23.940] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006816)  
Filipino Sign Language interpreter po.

**[05:25:26.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006817)  
So, wala pong datos sa mga syudad o munisipalidad na

**[05:25:31.260] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006818)  
sino ba yung mga syudad o munisipyo na meron o wala?

**[05:25:34.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006819)  
May ganun po bang datos ang ahensya?

**[05:25:37.260] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006820)  
Sa ngayon po, Mr. Chair, wala po kaming datos.

**[05:25:40.580] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006821)  
Opo. Pero yun nga po, given the fact na wala nga po,

**[05:25:44.860] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006822)  
but we anticipated kasi kahit po sa amin, yun pong kakulangan po ng Filipino Sign Language interpreter.

**[05:25:52.140] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006825)  
din po yung nakakaharap po ng NCDA.

**[05:25:55.140] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006826)  
That's why we deemed it proper to offer nga po itong curriculum na ito para po sa ating mga LGU

**[05:26:02.140] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-006827)  
so that they can have at least two Filipino sign language interpreter po.

**[05:26:07.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006828)  
Maraming salamat po sa paglilinaw na yan, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chair.

**[05:26:10.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006829)  
Indication lang po yan na medyo mahina po ang ating implementation particular dito sa batas for FSL.

**[05:26:19.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006832)  
Kasi kung wala po tayong datos ng mga syudad at munisipalidad na meron bang access sila sa mga FSL interpreters, ibig sabihin hindi natin alam.

**[05:26:26.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006833)  
nasaan ba yung mga gaps patungkol diyan.

**[05:26:29.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006834)  
Kasi ang report coming from the ground ay marami po, nga kababayan at kapatid natin mula sa Deaf community,

**[05:26:36.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006835)  
papasok halimbawa ng munisipyo o papasok ng Hall of Justice, papasok ng iba't-ibang mga opisina,

**[05:26:42.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006836)  
hindi sila magkaintindihan kasi walang mag-i-interpret for them.

**[05:26:48.140] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006837)  
Yung accessibility po kasi hindi lang naman usapin niya na may rampa o yung pagiging PWD-friendly

**[05:26:53.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006838)  
and nandoon lang sa built na infrastructure.

**[05:26:57.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006839)  
Ito rin po ay nangangahulugan na available yung mga servisyo na ganyan,

**[05:27:01.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006840)  
lalong-lalo na sa mga kapatid natin na deaf.

**[05:27:03.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006841)  
So, yun po ang isa sana na po pwedeng tignan ng ating ahensya.

**[05:27:10.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006842)  
Next po na tanong natin, Mr. Chair, Mr. Secretary,

**[05:27:13.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006843)  
alam niyo po, isa sa mga talagang invisibilized na workforce itong mga FSL interpreters natin,

**[05:27:20.820] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006844)  
wala kasing standard eh.

**[05:27:22.380] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006845)  
So, walang standard kung magkano yung rate nila,

**[05:27:25.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006846)  
wala actually sila ng mga benepisyon na natatanggap.

**[05:27:28.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006847)  
In fact, sila-sila, from among themselves, sila-sila lang ang nag-uusap,

**[05:27:32.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006848)  
o magka-isa tayo, ganito ang rate natin.

**[05:27:34.700] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006849)  
O magka-isa tayo, ganito yung terms natin pagkukuha tayo ng project.

**[05:27:39.180] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006850)  
Ano po yung mga ginagawang hakbangin ng DSWD?

**[05:27:43.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006851)  
Para kilalanin yung ating mga FSL interpreters bilang isang mahalagang bahagi ng ating workforce.

**[05:27:52.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006852)  
At ano po yung mga specific measures na pinopropose po ng kagawaran

**[05:27:56.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006853)  
para makilala natin itong mga FSL interpreters natin bilang bahagi ng formal na workforce natin, Mr. Chair.

**[05:28:03.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006854)  
If I can jump in.

**[05:28:05.060] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006855)  
Yes.

**[05:28:06.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006856)  
Bahagi, pinasok po namin yan, if you can recall,

**[05:28:09.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006857)  
social protection sa SGLG is in the realm of the DSWD.

**[05:28:13.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006858)  
Kami ho nagbibigay ng mga indicators to compel our local government units to put in FSL interpreters.

**[05:28:20.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006859)  
Nilagay ho namin yan as one of the indicators that they will be graded upon.

**[05:28:24.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006860)  
Kasi like we said, responsibilidad ay agree ng mga national government agency, pati ng mga LGU ho yan.

**[05:28:30.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006861)  
That's a way of us compelling and formalizing.

**[05:28:33.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006862)  
It's in the SGLG rating card, yung availability or yung presence of an FSL interpreter in the locality.

**[05:28:45.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006863)  
Maraming salamat po sa paglilinaw, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chair.

**[05:28:49.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006864)  
Kaya ako po binabanggit ito dahil just recently po nag-deliver tayo ng privileged speech about this matter

**[05:28:55.240] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006865)  
na karagdagang proteksyon at pagkilala sa mga FSL interpreters natin.

**[05:28:59.340] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006866)  
In fact po, Mr. Secretary, nakakalungkot, nakakaroon tayo ng budget deliberation ngayon about your budget.

**[05:29:05.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006867)  
Pero wala man lang available na nag-i-interpret ng pinag-uusapan natin.

**[05:29:10.740] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006868)  
Kung gustong maintindihan ng mga kapatid natin mula sa deaf community,

**[05:29:15.200] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006869)  
kung anong pinag-uusapan natin ngayon, sila yung kinakailangang maghanap ng paraan para magkaintindihan.

**[05:29:20.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006870)  
Maintindihan nila itong pinag-uusapan natin ngayon.

**[05:29:23.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006871)  
And that shows, Mr. Chair, yung gaps talaga pagdating dito sa may existing na nabatas eh.

**[05:29:29.660] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006872)  
So kaya kailangan nating palakasin ito.

**[05:29:31.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006873)  
At kung may commitment naman po ang DSWD na ipatupad ito at palakasin ang programang ito,

**[05:29:37.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006874)  
asahan nyo po na magiging kasama't kakampinyo po ang kamanggagawa party list sa bagay na ito.

**[05:29:45.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006875)  
We will do better.

**[05:29:46.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006876)  
Maraming salamat po. Malaking bagay po yun, Mr. Sekretary, yung binanggit nyo po.

**[05:29:50.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006877)  
At ikatutuwa po yan ng ating mga stakeholders mula po sa deaf community.

**[05:29:54.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006878)  
With that, Mr. Chair, buo po ang suporta ng kinatawang ito at ng Kamanggagawa Party-list sa DSWD.

**[05:30:00.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006880)  
DSWD. At ang ating

**[05:30:02.160] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006881)  
hiling lang po ay mas mapalakas pa

**[05:30:03.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006882)  
at mas mapagbuti pa ang mga

**[05:30:05.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006883)  
programa patungkol po sa ating

**[05:30:07.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006884)  
mga kababayan sa deaf community.

**[05:30:10.100] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006885)  
At sa iba pa po na mga sektor

**[05:30:12.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006886)  
ng ating mga kababayan

**[05:30:13.900] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006887)  
may kapansanan. At kaisan niyo po kami

**[05:30:15.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006888)  
para ipaglaban yung karagdagang

**[05:30:17.940] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006889)  
budget kung kinakailangan para po

**[05:30:19.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006890)  
sa mga programang ito. With that, maraming salamat po

**[05:30:22.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-006891)  
Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chair.

**[05:30:24.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006892)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Congressman.

**[05:30:25.880] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006893)  
Thank you. Thank you

**[05:30:27.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006894)  
Cong. Eli San Fernando.

**[05:30:29.840] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006895)  
We duly acknowledge

**[05:30:31.700] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006896)  
your manifestation.

**[05:30:33.700] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006897)  
We now recognize

**[05:30:40.100] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006898)  
Deputy Speaker

**[05:30:41.620] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-006899)  
Bambi Emano.

**[05:30:44.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006900)  
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:30:46.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006901)  
Maayong hapon

**[05:30:48.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006902)  
sa Tanaan Pamilya sa DSWD.

**[05:30:51.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006903)  
Only two things,

**[05:30:52.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006904)  
Mr. Chair. Una, I would like to

**[05:30:54.620] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006905)  
follow up with that white

**[05:30:56.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006906)  
fellow there. I forgot

**[05:30:58.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006907)  
his name, that white fellow.

**[05:31:01.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006908)  
What's your name again?

**[05:31:02.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006909)  
Friend? This guy, this guy.

**[05:31:05.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006910)  
Yeah. Regarding sa

**[05:31:06.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006911)  
QRF, Mr. Chair,

**[05:31:10.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006912)  
magkano

**[05:31:10.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006913)  
ng QRF for 2026?

**[05:31:13.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006914)  
Nakalodge po, Mr. Chair,

**[05:31:15.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006915)  
sa DSWD.

**[05:31:16.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006916)  
1.2 billion.

**[05:31:18.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006917)  
Of 1.2 billion, September pa lang

**[05:31:21.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006918)  
ngayon. Sorry, Mr. Chair,

**[05:31:23.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006919)  
per month, 3 billion na nakalodge.

**[05:31:25.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006920)  
3 billion for 2026.

**[05:31:27.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006921)  
Yes.

**[05:31:28.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006922)  
Magkano na po naubos natin? With all the calamities,

**[05:31:31.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006923)  
and all the...

**[05:31:33.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006924)  
For right now,

**[05:31:38.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006925)  
Mr. Chair, we've already

**[05:31:39.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006926)  
reimbursed

**[05:31:40.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006927)  
five times.

**[05:31:44.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006928)  
And ang running

**[05:31:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006929)  
total na hoon na nasa kamay hoon namin

**[05:31:47.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006930)  
is 9.5 billion.

**[05:31:49.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006931)  
Ang na-obligate na hoon namin dyan,

**[05:31:51.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006932)  
7.5 billion.

**[05:31:54.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006933)  
That's why, Mr. Chair,

**[05:31:55.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006934)  
if maybe some of us

**[05:31:58.160] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006935)  
will be included during the

**[05:31:59.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006936)  
Barsi that we reinstate,

**[05:32:01.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006937)  
if not even add budget

**[05:32:03.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006938)  
for QRF or DSWD.

**[05:32:06.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006939)  
In all the challenges

**[05:32:08.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006940)  
from Ludon, Visayas,

**[05:32:10.420] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006941)  
and even to the farthest

**[05:32:12.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006942)  
barangay in Mindanao,

**[05:32:14.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006943)  
DSWD had always

**[05:32:16.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006944)  
been the first,

**[05:32:17.780] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006945)  
sometimes even faster than

**[05:32:19.780] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006946)  
the quick response teams in the provinces

**[05:32:21.960] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006947)  
and the municipalities, especially

**[05:32:23.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006948)  
in giving aid in times

**[05:32:25.840] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006949)  
of calamity. That's why

**[05:32:27.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006950)  
I too, hopefully, will be able to

**[05:32:29.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006951)  
work it out, and it will be,

**[05:32:31.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006952)  
given opportunity to be

**[05:32:33.520] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006953)  
a member of Barsi, that we will work

**[05:32:35.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006954)  
on how we will be able to

**[05:32:37.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006955)  
increase the QRF

**[05:32:39.260] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006956)  
of DSWD.

**[05:32:41.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006957)  
Hopefully, we will just ask

**[05:32:43.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006958)  
a letter, Mr. Chair,

**[05:32:45.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006959)  
requesting the committee

**[05:32:47.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006960)  
for additional budget and how much

**[05:32:49.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006961)  
so that we will be able to find,

**[05:32:51.900] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006962)  
hopefully, be able to be a part

**[05:32:53.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006963)  
to find ways to fund an additional

**[05:32:55.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006964)  
QRF and some other

**[05:32:57.300] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006965)  
important programs that were

**[05:32:59.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006966)  
not funded by DSWD.

**[05:33:01.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006967)  
Second,

**[05:33:03.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006968)  
Mr. Chair, may we know

**[05:33:05.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006969)  
if the status

**[05:33:07.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006970)  
of the

**[05:33:08.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006971)  
plan to build a

**[05:33:11.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006972)  
disaster center in Butuan

**[05:33:13.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-006973)  
City, Mr. Chair?

**[05:33:15.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006974)  
Mr. Chair, if the good congressman will allow me

**[05:33:17.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006975)  
to go back muna dun sa QRF briefly.

**[05:33:19.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006976)  
If I can point out, wala hong

**[05:33:21.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006977)  
added cost sa gobyerno to bring

**[05:33:23.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006978)  
us back to 3 billion, kasi the

**[05:33:25.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006979)  
national QRF stands at around

**[05:33:27.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006980)  
18 billion.

**[05:33:28.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006981)  
18 billion?

**[05:33:30.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006982)  
No, yung isa, yung QRF.

**[05:33:31.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006983)  
Yeah, kasi parang,

**[05:33:35.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006984)  
Mr. Chairman, remember, there's the national

**[05:33:37.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006985)  
QRF and there's the national

**[05:33:39.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006986)  
N-DREAM Fund. Then,

**[05:33:41.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006987)  
nakatap kami lahat doon. We reimburse.

**[05:33:44.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006988)  
Yung seed money ang

**[05:33:45.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006989)  
pinag-uusapan namin, ang binibigay lang

**[05:33:47.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006990)  
sa amin noon, 1.2 billion, but because

**[05:33:49.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006991)  
Congress felt that we needed a bigger

**[05:33:51.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006992)  
legroom, ginawa niyong 3 billion.

**[05:33:53.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006993)  
Malaki ho yung diferensya noon. Walang

**[05:33:55.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006994)  
cost sa national government kasi nandiyan naman yung

**[05:33:57.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006995)  
pondo, pero yung nakabank na

**[05:33:59.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006996)  
sa amin, 3 billion, mas mabilis namin,

**[05:34:01.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006997)  
makaka-respond.

**[05:34:03.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006998)  
Kasi kung 1.2 billion yan, we have

**[05:34:05.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006999)  
to use 50% before we

**[05:34:07.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007000)  
reimburse, so may administrative processing

**[05:34:09.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007001)  
time. Mabilis naman yung processing

**[05:34:11.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007002)  
time, 3 days, 5 days under

**[05:34:13.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007003)  
Secretary Kim, walang 1 week, pero

**[05:34:15.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007004)  
syempre, time is of the essence.

**[05:34:17.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007005)  
If we had 3 billion to use kaagad,

**[05:34:19.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007006)  
malaki ho yun. So, I wanted to

**[05:34:21.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007007)  
point out na hopefully during your Barsi

**[05:34:23.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007008)  
discussion, walang added cost to government.

**[05:34:26.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007009)  
Nandiyan ho yung standby

**[05:34:27.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007010)  
QRF, lalakihan lang yung

**[05:34:29.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007011)  
advance na nasa DSWD.

**[05:34:31.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007012)  
Para hindi kami reimbursed, nang reimbursed

**[05:34:33.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007013)  
almost every week. That's the

**[05:34:35.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007014)  
main gut of it.

**[05:34:37.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007015)  
Kasi baka akala ng maraming members,

**[05:34:39.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007016)  
humihingi kami ng dagdag.

**[05:34:41.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007017)  
May pera na, i-bank

**[05:34:43.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007018)  
nyo lang sa amin, sana, Mr. Chairman,

**[05:34:45.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007019)  
ng mas malaking halaga,

**[05:34:47.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007020)  
para hindi kami reimbursed ng

**[05:34:48.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007021)  
parang ito na analogy ko, parang may mga bata.

**[05:34:51.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007022)  
The departments are children.

**[05:34:53.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007023)  
Humihingi kami ng allowance.

**[05:34:55.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007024)  
Reimbursable, ililista namin sa

**[05:34:57.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007025)  
saan napunta. Sana, mas malaki

**[05:34:59.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007026)  
yung spending cap namin, maximum,

**[05:35:01.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007027)  
para hindi kami balik

**[05:35:03.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007028)  
nang balik to reimbursed because may

**[05:35:05.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007029)  
mga clientele kami na kailangan iservice

**[05:35:07.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007030)  
sa mga LGU or mga victims.

**[05:35:09.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007031)  
That's one. Number two, Mr. Chair,

**[05:35:11.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007032)  
when it comes to the repacking center in

**[05:35:13.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007033)  
Butuan City, we are now

**[05:35:15.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007034)  
just waiting for one more piece of document

**[05:35:17.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007035)  
which is the ECC, if I'm

**[05:35:19.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007036)  
not mistaken. ECC, di ba?

**[05:35:22.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007037)  
Yun ang wawala sa MDRC.

**[05:35:23.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007038)  
It's just the ECC.

**[05:35:26.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007039)  
Sorry, it's the DPWH

**[05:35:27.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007040)  
clearance na the plans

**[05:35:29.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007041)  
are all in place. Yun na lang po,

**[05:35:31.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007042)  
and then pwede na namin i-process yung

**[05:35:33.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007043)  
for later release na

**[05:35:34.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007044)  
multi-year na SARO.

**[05:35:37.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007045)  
Medyo mahaba ho yung proseso nun kasi

**[05:35:39.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007046)  
this is a new plan starting from

**[05:35:41.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007047)  
scratch. We had to get all the necessary

**[05:35:43.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007048)  
documents. So we're just missing one DPWH

**[05:35:45.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007049)  
documentation which we should

**[05:35:47.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007050)  
get anytime and then we can build it

**[05:35:49.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007051)  
already.

**[05:35:50.050] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007051-split-2)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:35:51.560] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007052)  
The secretary

**[05:35:53.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007053)  
like I, Mr. Chair, was given

**[05:35:55.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007054)  
opportunity to be in a local government

**[05:35:57.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007055)  
unit. Ang alimbawa dun sa

**[05:35:59.520] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007056)  
mga hospitals namin, Mr. Chair,

**[05:36:01.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007057)  
gave our doctors revolving

**[05:36:03.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007058)  
funds. Dati, binibigay

**[05:36:05.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007059)  
is 100,000

**[05:36:07.580] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007060)  
a month lang. Tapos in-increase

**[05:36:09.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007061)  
natin para mas maka-ikot sila

**[05:36:11.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007062)  
at saka hindi sila palaging bumabalik

**[05:36:13.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007063)  
dun sa Capitolio. I understand what you mean and

**[05:36:15.360] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007064)  
hopefully that too will be in the

**[05:36:17.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007065)  
letter, Mr. Chair.

**[05:36:20.100] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007066)  
Regarding dun sa quick response

**[05:36:21.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007067)  
fund, if the secretary remembers,

**[05:36:23.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007068)  
Mr. Chair, sabi ko unahin na lang

**[05:36:25.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007069)  
natin yung Region 10, kasi

**[05:36:27.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007070)  
kumpleto na papel, lupa nandun na sa

**[05:36:29.120] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007071)  
pangalan ng DSWD.

**[05:36:31.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007072)  
Sana tapos. This white guy

**[05:36:33.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007073)  
is talking, Mr. Chair, during my time,

**[05:36:35.300] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007074)  
Mr. Chair. This American guy.

**[05:36:38.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007075)  
And

**[05:36:39.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007076)  
may we know,

**[05:36:41.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007077)  
Mr. Chair, if

**[05:36:42.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007078)  
we will still continue

**[05:36:45.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007079)  
with the Region 10

**[05:36:47.280] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007080)  
in Lunocan, Bukidnon

**[05:36:49.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007081)  
Disaster Center, will

**[05:36:51.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007082)  
DSWD support the need

**[05:36:53.600] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007083)  
or is there a need that we will

**[05:36:55.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007084)  
continue with the Lunocan DSWD

**[05:36:57.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007085)  
Disaster Center,

**[05:36:59.520] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007086)  
Mr. Chair?

**[05:37:00.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007086-split-2)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[05:37:01.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007087)  
a hundred and one percent. The more of

**[05:37:03.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007088)  
these repacking centers, the better.

**[05:37:05.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007089)  
Yung mga disasters natin yun, mas mabagsik,

**[05:37:07.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007090)  
mas matagal, mas mahaba.

**[05:37:09.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007091)  
As proven in our experience right now,

**[05:37:11.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007092)  
yung nasa Cebu natin is already

**[05:37:12.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007093)  
overstretched. It's catering to Visayas,

**[05:37:15.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007094)  
sometimes nagagamit rin siya

**[05:37:17.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007095)  
for Bicol, and it's also

**[05:37:19.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007096)  
catering to Mindanao. So,

**[05:37:21.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007097)  
given that Mindanao is a very big

**[05:37:23.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007098)  
vast expanse of land

**[05:37:25.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007099)  
with multiple LGUs inside,

**[05:37:27.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007100)  
more than one repacking center ang

**[05:37:29.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007101)  
kailangan natin, over on top of what's being

**[05:37:31.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007102)  
built in Caraga, or what will be built

**[05:37:33.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007103)  
in Caraga.

**[05:37:34.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007104)  
Will the good Secretary be able to include

**[05:37:37.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007105)  
that in the request for

**[05:37:38.960] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007106)  
Barsi, Mr. Chair? So,

**[05:37:41.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007107)  
I'll be able to work it out

**[05:37:42.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007108)  
with the Chairman on the Committee on Appropriation

**[05:37:45.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007109)  
and hopefully be able to discuss it

**[05:37:47.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007110)  
with the good Secretary of the House,

**[05:37:49.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007111)  
Mr. Chair.

**[05:37:50.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007111-split-2)  
Gladly, Mr. Chairman,

**[05:37:51.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007112)  
we will make sure that it's part of the list

**[05:37:53.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007113)  
that we will submit. Pahaba na ho

**[05:37:54.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007114)  
ng pahaba yung listahan namin, pero this one is

**[05:37:57.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007115)  
a matter of life and death. Kaya, we'll put

**[05:37:59.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007116)  
it on top of the list because,

**[05:38:01.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007117)  
importante ho 'to, as we are now seeing

**[05:38:02.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007118)  
gamit na gamit yung mga repacking center, we fully

**[05:38:05.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007119)  
support, we will put it on top of our list, Mr. Chairman.

**[05:38:07.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007120)  
Mr. Chair, especially that the forecast

**[05:38:09.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007121)  
for Mindanao is a little bit

**[05:38:11.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007122)  
challenging for the months ahead

**[05:38:13.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007123)  
with the incoming El Nino.

**[05:38:15.960] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007124)  
Kasi kayo dito, Mr. Chair,

**[05:38:17.400] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007125)  
sa Luzon, binabaha kayo

**[05:38:19.340] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007126)  
at inuulan. Kung gano'ng

**[05:38:21.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007127)  
katagal at kahaba yung baha

**[05:38:23.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007128)  
at ulan sa inyo, ganon din katagal

**[05:38:25.060] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007129)  
ang walang ulan sa amin ngayon.

**[05:38:27.320] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007130)  
That's why we want to prepare also for

**[05:38:29.380] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007131)  
the challenges and the disasters.

**[05:38:31.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007132)  
that will be coming to the islands of Mindanao.

**[05:38:33.460] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007133)  
God forbid not, Mr. Chair.

**[05:38:35.840] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007134)  
Mr. Chair, I thank already

**[05:38:37.420] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007135)  
the good Secretary for answering the

**[05:38:39.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007136)  
queries and the questions. I thank him

**[05:38:41.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007137)  
for acceding to the requests

**[05:38:43.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007138)  
that are needed in Barsi.

**[05:38:45.740] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007139)  
We

**[05:38:46.040] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007140)  
fully support the good Secretary

**[05:38:49.080] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007141)  
and thank you for the quick

**[05:38:51.440] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007142)  
action response on all the

**[05:38:53.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007143)  
challenges that the people from the

**[05:38:55.000] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007144)  
2nd District are facing,

**[05:38:56.780] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007145)  
Mr. Chair. And of course,

**[05:38:59.220] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007146)  
we'd like to thank Mayor Alia.

**[05:39:01.240] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007147)  
Thank you, everybody from

**[05:39:02.880] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007148)  
DSW, especially Ma'am Glo, our

**[05:39:04.760] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007149)  
Regional Director. You know,

**[05:39:06.840] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007150)  
they're very fast and very easy to call.

**[05:39:08.820] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007151)  
Nagulat nga ako, Mr. Chair.

**[05:39:10.640] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007152)  
Did you notice, Mr. Chair, this budget hearing?

**[05:39:13.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007153)  
Wala masyadong Regional Director

**[05:39:14.920] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007154)  
lumalapit sa atin. Unlike

**[05:39:16.980] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007155)  
before, they will submit their report

**[05:39:19.180] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007156)  
in our districts.

**[05:39:20.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007157)  
Yung DSW, pumunta kami sa

**[05:39:22.860] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007158)  
amin kahapon, Mr. Chair, si R.D. Glo.

**[05:39:25.480] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007159)  
Sabi ko, ba't ikaw nandito?

**[05:39:27.020] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007160)  
Hindi ka nga namang nakailangan, kasi ikaw nga

**[05:39:28.800] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007161)  
yung pinakamadali tumulong sa amin, tapos ikaw

**[05:39:30.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007162)  
nagpapakita rito. Kailangan namin yung ibang

**[05:39:32.540] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007163)  
Regional Director na hindi nagpapakita sa amin,

**[05:39:34.720] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007164)  
hindi nga magpapakilala. Sabi ko,

**[05:39:36.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007165)  
uwi ka na, uwi ka na. Pinapauwi na nga namin siya,

**[05:39:38.700] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007166)  
Mr. Chair. So, congratulations,

**[05:39:41.140] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007167)  
Mr. Chair, and you can be assured that

**[05:39:42.680] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007168)  
I will be supporting the budget

**[05:39:44.660] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007169)  
of DSWD, Mr. Chair.

**[05:39:46.860] Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano** (asr-007170)  
Thank you, Sec.

**[05:39:47.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007170-split-2)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

**[05:39:48.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007171)  
Thank you, DS, Emano.

**[05:39:50.820] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007172)  
Thank you, Deputy

**[05:39:52.600] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007173)  
Speaker Bambi.

**[05:40:02.090] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007174)  
You now recognize Kong Cherise

**[05:40:03.970] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007175)  
Hernandez.

**[05:40:07.000] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007175-split-2)  
Thank you,

**[05:40:07.740] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007176)  
Chair. Good afternoon, Speaker.

**[05:40:09.600] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007177)  
Good afternoon,

**[05:40:11.240] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007178)  
Secretary. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:40:14.040] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007179)  
First of all, this

**[05:40:15.460] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007180)  
representation

**[05:40:16.240] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007181)  
expresses our full support to the

**[05:40:19.480] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007182)  
proposed budget if

**[05:40:21.000] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007183)  
pwede nga po pa nataasan.

**[05:40:23.440] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007184)  
And we believe

**[05:40:24.960] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007185)  
your agency or your role really is

**[05:40:27.460] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007186)  
a vital lifeline to our struggling communities,

**[05:40:29.940] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007187)  
vulnerable children,

**[05:40:31.700] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007188)  
as everyone knows already,

**[05:40:33.580] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007189)  
marginalized sectors,

**[05:40:36.140] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007190)  
especially

**[05:40:37.400] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007191)  
disaster-affected communities.

**[05:40:39.600] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007192)  
And if isa rin po tayo

**[05:40:42.140] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007193)  
kung may erong chance

**[05:40:44.120] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007194)  
na maitaas ito, especially your

**[05:40:46.000] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007195)  
crisis interventions programs

**[05:40:47.820] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007196)  
for people in need of

**[05:40:49.960] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007197)  
assistances, maitaas po sana

**[05:40:52.160] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007198)  
ito for 2027.

**[05:40:54.260] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007199)  
And, but one

**[05:40:56.000] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007200)  
concern lang, I would say,

**[05:40:57.720] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007201)  
based on the cases that we encounter

**[05:40:59.680] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007202)  
sa aming mga distrito,

**[05:41:02.560] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007203)  
sa ilalim po ng DSWD

**[05:41:04.200] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007204)  
assistance programs, tama po

**[05:41:06.120] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007205)  
ba na ang maximum amount na maaaring

**[05:41:08.360] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007206)  
maibigay natin?

**[05:41:09.600] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007207)  
Sa isang beneficiary would amount

**[05:41:11.980] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007208)  
to how much po?

**[05:41:14.080] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007209)  
Yung maximum.

**[05:41:15.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007210)  
For the cash relief assistance,

**[05:41:17.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007211)  
it's limited to 10,000 pesos.

**[05:41:19.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007212)  
Because beyond that, we feel that it's

**[05:41:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007213)  
better suited kung guarantee letter na po.

**[05:41:24.260] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007214)  
So 10,000 for cash.

**[05:41:26.340] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007215)  
Yes, and we understand that.

**[05:41:27.900] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007216)  
We understand that there must be safeguards

**[05:41:29.800] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007217)  
and limitations to ensure that

**[05:41:31.460] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007218)  
these funds are properly managed.

**[05:41:34.720] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007219)  
But I just want to share

**[05:41:35.680] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007220)  
a sentiment po and put it on

**[05:41:37.740] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007221)  
record because

**[05:41:39.600] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007222)  
may mga kaso po, as we all

**[05:41:41.540] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007223)  
know, of course, alam nyo, alam naman po

**[05:41:43.360] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007224)  
natin yung lahat na hindi talaga sapat ang

**[05:41:45.160] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007225)  
10,000. For example, may mga pasyente

**[05:41:47.580] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007226)  
po, again, dapat katuwang

**[05:41:49.800] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007227)  
po talaga feel dito, DOH, etc.

**[05:41:51.940] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007228)  
But just to manifest, may mga

**[05:41:53.700] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007229)  
sumas-alilims, let's say, ng chemotherapy

**[05:41:55.580] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007230)  
na hindi talaga covered

**[05:41:57.620] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007231)  
ng expenses na ito,

**[05:41:59.560] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007232)  
na napakamahal ng treatment, or kaya naputulan

**[05:42:01.560] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007233)  
ng paa na yung bakal

**[05:42:03.740] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007234)  
sobrang pagkamahal-mahal, or yung

**[05:42:05.460] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007235)  
mga nawalan na nga mahal sa buhay

**[05:42:07.560] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007236)  
na kailangan iuwi for, and

**[05:42:09.600] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007237)  
would really need

**[05:42:10.460] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007238)  
transportation and

**[05:42:13.420] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007239)  
funeral-related expenses. Anyway,

**[05:42:15.700] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007240)  
so para po sa isang pamilya na walang-wala,

**[05:42:17.920] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007241)  
talagang napakalaking tulong po

**[05:42:19.540] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007242)  
ng 10,000. But also,

**[05:42:21.820] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007243)  
I would just say that it's

**[05:42:23.560] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007244)  
really a fraction talaga

**[05:42:25.700] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007245)  
of what they actually need.

**[05:42:27.380] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007246)  
Especially now, meron din po

**[05:42:29.260] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007247)  
tayong program, or hindi man tayong program,

**[05:42:31.880] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007248)  
meron pong ongoing

**[05:42:33.260] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007249)  
initiative na lahat ng mga bata

**[05:42:35.680] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007250)  
na may conditions,

**[05:42:37.940] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007251)  
especially PWDs,

**[05:42:39.600] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007252)  
keys na bata.

**[05:42:41.140] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007253)  
Again, malaking tulong po, but again,

**[05:42:43.800] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007254)  
I would respectfully just

**[05:42:45.620] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007255)  
suggest that maybe we could study the possibility

**[05:42:47.820] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007256)  
of having a graduated or

**[05:42:49.560] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007257)  
case-based assistance ceiling

**[05:42:51.420] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007258)  
where the amount may go beyond

**[05:42:53.820] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007259)  
these amount

**[05:42:55.580] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007260)  
for exceptional cases. And of

**[05:42:57.680] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007261)  
course, subject to proper

**[05:42:59.660] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007262)  
assessment, documentation,

**[05:43:01.720] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007263)  
and safeguards, because there are

**[05:43:03.560] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007264)  
these cases,

**[05:43:06.140] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007265)  
and maybe we can have a mechanism

**[05:43:07.660] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007266)  
na if life-threatening

**[05:43:09.600] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007267)  
illnesses, again, in partnership

**[05:43:11.500] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007268)  
with DOH, or major surgical

**[05:43:13.820] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007269)  
procedures, or prolonged

**[05:43:15.540] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007270)  
hospitalization,

**[05:43:17.520] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007271)  
can maybe justify it for certain

**[05:43:19.860] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007272)  
circumstances. But it's just really

**[05:43:21.380] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007273)  
maybe a possibility,

**[05:43:24.540] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007274)  
and I do

**[05:43:25.760] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007275)  
believe na you're doing

**[05:43:27.220] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007276)  
the best that you can.

**[05:43:29.700] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007277)  
At alam na alam po ninyo to.

**[05:43:31.340] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007278)  
But I just want to also share the

**[05:43:33.660] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007279)  
sentiments of the people from my district.

**[05:43:35.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007280)  
Mr. Chairman, if I can

**[05:43:37.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007281)  
just clarify again,

**[05:43:39.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007282)  
yung cash relief assistance ang may limit

**[05:43:41.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007283)  
na medyo mababa, 10,000, because

**[05:43:43.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007284)  
the context there is

**[05:43:45.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007285)  
we're scared also of being

**[05:43:47.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007286)  
giving cash na ang lalaki

**[05:43:49.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007287)  
na amount sa isang recipient.

**[05:43:51.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007288)  
But we have thousands of service

**[05:43:53.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007289)  
providers, at pag medical

**[05:43:55.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007290)  
na po, tulad ng mga binanggit ni

**[05:43:57.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007291)  
ating Congresswoman,

**[05:43:59.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007292)  
chemo, dialysis

**[05:44:01.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007293)  
na hindi covered sa PhilHealth,

**[05:44:03.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007294)  
bakal sa ortho cases,

**[05:44:06.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007295)  
umabot na nga po tayo sa kidney

**[05:44:07.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007296)  
transplants, guaranteed

**[05:44:09.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007297)  
letter na ho. We have thousands.

**[05:44:11.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007298)  
I'm proud to say we have more service

**[05:44:13.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007299)  
providers than DOH,

**[05:44:15.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007300)  
and we convert that to a needs-based

**[05:44:17.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007301)  
guarantee letter system, where

**[05:44:19.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007302)  
our social workers will assess

**[05:44:21.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007303)  
based on the quotation, the

**[05:44:23.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007304)  
cost estimate, and the billing,

**[05:44:25.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007305)  
and the life circumstance of that person.

**[05:44:28.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007306)  
So lumalagpas po tayo sa

**[05:44:29.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007307)  
10,000. Our guarantee letters

**[05:44:31.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007308)  
go all the way up to close to

**[05:44:33.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007309)  
a million with the right signing

**[05:44:35.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007310)  
authority. In that case, ako na po

**[05:44:37.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007311)  
yun, umaakit na sa akin. So we're

**[05:44:39.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007312)  
not constrained with the 10,000 for

**[05:44:41.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007313)  
medical or burial needs. We actually

**[05:44:43.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007314)  
use bigger amounts

**[05:44:45.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007315)  
but in a guarantee letter format.

**[05:44:47.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007316)  
And a lot of those medical conditions

**[05:44:49.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007317)  
that you mentioned are actually

**[05:44:51.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007318)  
catered

**[05:44:53.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007319)  
or serviced by our

**[05:44:55.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007320)  
service providers.

**[05:44:57.060] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007321)  
Thank you for that clarification,

**[05:44:59.420] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007322)  
Sec.

**[05:45:00.000] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007323)  
And again, this is a good opportunity, especially for my district, to discover that there's a program.

**[05:45:10.060] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007324)  
But yeah, definitely, especially with hospitalization, we can use the referral letter system.

**[05:45:20.620] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007325)  
Or maybe we can refer.

**[05:45:21.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007326)  
Guarantee letter, and you can refer to us.

**[05:45:23.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007327)  
In fact, Mr. Chairman, mapapagalitan ulit natin 'yung si RD Barry dahil hindi ho kayo ini-inform sa list of services ng departamento.

**[05:45:30.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007328)  
So plus-minus siya. Binati siya, pero minus siya ngayon, so zero siya ulit.

**[05:45:35.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007329)  
So, R.D. Barry, who is behind me, should go visit the Congresswoman.

**[05:45:38.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007330)  
Explain the menu of services that we have so that we can address your constituents' needs in a more adequate manner.

**[05:45:45.160] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007331)  
Thank you.

**[05:45:45.660] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007332)  
Pero bawi po ako, the staff, social workers on our province, hands down, they're the best.

**[05:45:52.520] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007333)  
Wala po akong masabi.

**[05:45:53.880] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007334)  
And very efficient.

**[05:45:55.280] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007335)  
And I would just like to say that during the oil crisis, in the midst of these really,

**[05:46:00.000] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007336)  
really hard times, ang lahat po ng mga riders natin, jeepney drivers, farmers, natulungan po natin lahat.

**[05:46:07.060] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007337)  
So again, if kaya po natin taasan pa ang budget, isa po tayo sa susuporta at magsusulong nito.

**[05:46:16.300] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007338)  
Maraming salamat, Secretary, and to the DSWD family.

**[05:46:18.800] Rep. Charisse Anne C. Hernandez** (asr-007339)  
Maraming salamat, Chairman.

**[05:46:19.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007340)  
Thank you very much, Congresswoman.

**[05:46:23.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007341)  
Thank you, Congressman Rich.

**[05:46:26.280] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007342)  
We recognize Senior Deputy Speaker Dinan.

**[05:46:31.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007343)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:46:36.240] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007344)  
Actually, wala naman ako itatanong.

**[05:46:38.320] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007345)  
Nandito lang ako po to vocally support the budget of the DSWD family.

**[05:46:47.260] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007346)  
I've been watching the hearing.

**[05:46:49.840] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007347)  
Medyo late ako. I was looking at my iPad on my way here.

**[05:46:54.500] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007348)  
Siguro, I've been here for nine years before. I've come back in.

**[05:46:59.660] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007349)  
So, I've never seen so many.

**[05:47:01.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007350)  
Commendations, compliments, and praises to one department.

**[05:47:08.560] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007351)  
Again, congratulations to the SWD.

**[05:47:11.040] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007352)  
So, if that's all, res ipsa locator.

**[05:47:16.320] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007353)  
The thing speaks for your performance.

**[05:47:19.040] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007354)  
Congratulations, the SWD.

**[05:47:20.640] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007355)  
So, hindi na nga res ipsa. Gagawin ko lang rex ipsa loquitur.

**[05:47:26.960] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007356)  
So,

**[05:47:28.320] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007357)  
I've witnessed

**[05:47:30.320] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007358)  
this

**[05:47:30.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007359)  
personally.

**[05:47:31.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007360)  
Tinamaan yung South Cotabato and GenSan ng earthquake.

**[05:47:36.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007361)  
Hindi lang 'yan. Hindi lang naman sa region ko. Siyempre, nandito rin yung regional director ko siguro.

**[05:47:43.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007362)  
Si Regional Director Cabaya and DSWD family.

**[05:47:48.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007363)  
Masyado pong proactive, very responsive, and very accessible.

**[05:47:56.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007364)  
So, from the time it happened.

**[05:47:58.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007365)  
And then,

**[05:48:00.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007366)  
nung natapos na,

**[05:48:00.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007367)  
binabalikan pa.

**[05:48:01.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007368)  
Makikita mo si Sec Rex,

**[05:48:03.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007369)  
pag tinatawagan ko,

**[05:48:05.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007370)  
nandun na naman siya sa area.

**[05:48:07.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007371)  
And even during the baha.

**[05:48:09.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007372)  
Because I monitor the areas of different congressmen.

**[05:48:13.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007373)  
Pag binabaha, parati kong bilin muna bago ko yung support ng Congress,

**[05:48:19.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007374)  
tawagin n'yo DSWD,

**[05:48:21.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007375)  
humihingi ng support.

**[05:48:23.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007376)  
Sabi, hindi, nandito na lahat yung support.

**[05:48:25.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007377)  
Dati, ilan-ilan lang yung mahihingi mo.

**[05:48:28.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007378)  
Ngayon, siyempre,

**[05:48:29.880] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007379)  
na-amaze ka sa isang munisipyo, may 20,000, may 30,000. Di ba?

**[05:48:35.700] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007380)  
Kaya hindi ako magtataka, lahat ng congressman dito,

**[05:48:41.780] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007381)  
puro pasalamat, puro support sa budget ng DSWD.

**[05:48:44.180] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007382)  
So again, very dynamic, right?

**[05:48:49.710] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007383)  
The way you deploy your resources, the way you implement your programs,

**[05:48:55.470] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007384)  
and the way you answer to different programs that are very interesting,

**[05:49:01.210] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007385)  
from SLP, Kalahi, he really knows on the tip of his finger all the details of all his programs.

**[05:49:13.250] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007386)  
So again, I'm here to support the ASWD, continue your good and excellent performance,

**[05:49:24.550] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007387)  
and thank you.

**[05:49:25.470] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007388)  
Marami kayo natulungan.

**[05:49:27.390] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007389)  
Kayo ang unang tinatawagan pag nangangailangan.

**[05:49:31.030] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007390)  
And wala akong narinig na there was a failure on the quick response from the ASWD.

**[05:49:38.710] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007391)  
Again, Secrex and the ASWD family, and it's a touch agency.

**[05:49:43.070] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007392)  
Congratulations.

**[05:49:43.990] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007393)  
I'm only here to support your budget and for possible increase of your budget.

**[05:49:49.150] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007394)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[05:49:50.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007395)  
Thank you, SDS Dinan.

**[05:49:51.850] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-007396)  
Thank you, Chairman.

**[05:49:53.670] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007397)  
Thank you very much, SDS Dinan.

**[05:49:55.470] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007398)  
We now recognize Congressman Edwin Cruzado, after which we will have a temporary suspension for a few minutes.

**[05:50:06.990] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007399)  
Mr. Chair, Honorable Secretary Gazzalian, thank you.

**[05:50:14.470] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007400)  
I'd like to reiterate my support sa budget ng ASWD.

**[05:50:19.970] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007401)  
I'd like to reiterate your good performance.

**[05:50:23.210] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007402)  
Thank you.

**[05:50:25.470] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007403)  
I'd like to reiterate your quick response to the earthquake, to the flooding, with our very active Regional Director Cabaya.

**[05:50:35.530] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007404)  
And marami na rin kami natulungan through the ASWD.

**[05:50:39.770] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007405)  
May isang tanong lang po ako, Secretary, yung sinasabi mo na beyond what is 10,000, yung GL, sa hospital.

**[05:50:48.370] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007406)  
How can we do that?

**[05:50:49.550] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007407)  
For example, mayroong pangangailangan na hindi na

**[05:50:55.470] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007408)  
makaya ng MAIP namin and very kailangan talagang tulungan.

**[05:51:01.050] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007409)  
Tapos, how can we refer that to the DSWD?

**[05:51:04.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007410)  
Mr. Chairman, the good congressman is correct.

**[05:51:07.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007411)  
It's normally used together with the MAIP kasi hindi naman nasasagot lahat ng MAIP.

**[05:51:11.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007412)  
Okay.

**[05:51:12.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007413)  
So, it's as simple as you referring the client to any of our office or satellite office in North Cotabato.

**[05:51:19.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007414)  
We will never turn down anybody na pumunta sa pintuan ng DSWD.

**[05:51:23.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007415)  
Our social workers will assess.

**[05:51:25.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007416)  
And then, issue out the guarantee letter doon sa service provider that they need.

**[05:51:31.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007417)  
We have hundreds and hundreds or thousands of service provider ranging from drug stores

**[05:51:36.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007418)  
all the way to orthopedic supplies and burial services also.

**[05:51:41.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007419)  
So, sa regional office namin yan pinaprocess or any of our satellite office.

**[05:51:46.390] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007420)  
Okay.

**[05:51:46.890] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007421)  
Mr. Secretary, for example, if the patient is doon sila napunta sa region 11, SPMC.

**[05:51:55.010] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007422)  
PMC, pero resident sila ng aming distrito, where will we refer?

**[05:52:02.450] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007423)  
Sa region po where they are confined, kasi napakahirap naman ho na babalik pa siya sa

**[05:52:07.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007424)  
home region niya.

**[05:52:08.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007425)  
This happens all the time, lalo-lalo na sa Davao region, sa Cebu region.

**[05:52:12.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007426)  
Our officers will never look or discriminate kung saan ka galing.

**[05:52:17.010] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007427)  
Ang importante sa amin yung crisis at yung pangangailangan.

**[05:52:19.730] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007428)  
Thank you, Sir Secretary, and again, congratulations to the SWD family.

**[05:52:27.110] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007429)  
Ang laki ng naitulong niyo.

**[05:52:29.230] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007430)  
The performance is excellent, and we will support your budget, and even if you ask for

**[05:52:37.590] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007431)  
more, then we will also support that.

**[05:52:39.430] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007432)  
Thank you very much.

**[05:52:40.830] Rep. Edwin Cruzado** (asr-007433)  
Thank you, Chairman.

**[05:52:41.470] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007434)  
Thank you, Congressman Cruzado.

**[05:52:56.480] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007435)  
Thank you so much, Congressman Cruzado.

**[05:52:59.510] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007436)  
So we will be suspending for a few minutes.

**[05:53:05.230] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007437)  
Maybe that would be, we'll have enough time for you to have a break while we'll try to

**[05:53:14.670] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007438)  
do something here, and it's very tempting to terminate it earlier, but we have to wait

**[05:53:23.510] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007439)  
for the chair, and we have members who [unclear] for a second round.

**[05:53:34.700] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007440)  
Yeah.

**[05:53:38.770] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007441)  
We'll be suspending for a few minutes.

**[06:39:20.880] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007442)  
Is now resumed. We recognize Congresswoman Sara Ilago for the second round.

**[06:39:37.830] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007443)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair, para sa dagdag na pagkakataon na makapaglinaw sa ilang katanungan mula sa representasyon na ito.

**[06:39:45.910] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007444)  
Mr. Chair, parehong bumaba ang pondo ng Council for the Welfare of Children at ng Juvenile Justice and Welfare Council.

**[06:39:54.330] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007445)  
Ano ang dahilan ng mga budget cuts na ito?

**[06:39:56.670] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007446)  
Napakahalaga nito, Mr. Chair, lalo na sa panahon ngayon na maraming mga issue at umuusbong pa na mga concerns na may kinalaman sa interes at kapakanan ng mga batang Pilipino.

**[06:40:09.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007447)  
Mr. Chair, I'll let the two Executive Directors who are with us right now, para hindi naman husayang yung gasolina nila sa pagpunta dito, sila na ho magpapaliwanag para sa kanilang mga ahensya.

**[06:40:21.550] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007448)  
Isang makabatang hapon po sa ating lahat. Thank you.

**[06:40:24.770] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007449)  
With the permission of our boss, Secretary General.

**[06:40:26.670] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007450)  
Mr. Chair, Madam Congressman, the bulk of the budget cut of the Council for the Welfare of Children, we are looking at around 60 plus million po.

**[06:40:39.870] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007451)  
More than half of that accounts for or pertains to ICT po, budget for ICT po, digitalization for our management information support unit.

**[06:40:49.790] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007452)  
Tapos yung mga natira po doon, Madam Chair, Mr. Chair, are funds for the operation.

**[06:40:56.670] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007453)  
We also have funds of the divisions and units of the Council for the Welfare of Children po, which includes our support for our regional staff, capacity building and technical assistance for LGUs, budget for the Child-Friendly Local Governance Audit, and the Presidential Award for Child-Friendly Municipalities and Cities po, among others, Mr. Chair.

**[06:41:17.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007454)  
Mr. Chair, maraming maapektuhan na may kinalaman doon sa maagap na pagtitiyak na ang kanilang mga palisya, mga posisyon sa issue ay nakalapat.

**[06:41:26.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007455)  
At saka kung ano ba yung tunay na sitwasyon ng mga batang Pilipino.

**[06:41:31.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007456)  
Kumpara doon sa fiscal year 2027, Nep, sa inyong original proposal bago ho ang DBM recommendation, magkano ho ang hinihingi ng CWC?

**[06:41:44.260] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007457)  
Mr. Chair, Madam Congresswoman, ang proposal po namin for 2027 ay 318,211,000.

**[06:41:52.940] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007458)  
At ang NEP for fiscal year 2027...

**[06:41:56.560] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007459)  
... ay 148,999. Kasama na po dyan yung RLIP po, hindi lang po yung PS, MOOE, and Capital Outlay. Yan na po yung lahat.

**[06:42:08.820] CWC Executive Director Angelo M. Tapales** (asr-007460)  
So we're talking of malaki po ang bawas po talaga. So we practically went back to 2023 levels po, Mr. Chair.

**[06:42:19.980] JJWC Executive Director Tricia Claire Oco** (asr-007461)  
Mr. Chair, for the JJWC, we also have our budget lowered.

**[06:42:31.840] JJWC Executive Director Tricia Claire Oco** (asr-007462)  
Ito naman kasing laki nung sa CWC. Basically, yung decrease namin is doon sa aming ICT requirements, proposed ICT requirements, amounting to 6.289 million.

**[06:42:46.080] JJWC Executive Director Tricia Claire Oco** (asr-007463)  
So kasama po dito yung sa aming mga subscription. A lot of our ICT requirements, nakasama din po yung sweldo ng iba naming mga COS personnel focusing on our management information system.

**[06:42:59.260] JJWC Executive Director Tricia Claire Oco** (asr-007464)  
So nire-request rin namin na sana maibalik siya.

**[06:43:01.840] JJWC Executive Director Tricia Claire Oco** (asr-007465)  
Kasi isa sa mandate namin ay we have to have a management information system sa buong bansa para na-trace namin doon yung mga children at risk and children in conflict with the law.

**[06:43:16.220] JJWC Executive Director Tricia Claire Oco** (asr-007466)  
And one of them is to establish a longitudinal study kung ano yung patterns ng behavior ng mga bata, lalong-lalo na yung ating mga CICL.

**[06:43:27.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007467)  
Mr. Chair, hingin natin yung components ng...

**[06:43:31.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007468)  
original proposal ng JJWC at ng CWC at yung mga maapektuhan na programa dulot ng budget cuts.

**[06:43:39.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007469)  
Ang ngayon naman po, may pagtaas para sa National Authority for Child Care. Maari hong maipaliwanag ang pagtaas na ito.

**[06:43:47.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007470)  
Nasa 200 plus million po ang pagtaas para sa susunod na taon. At nagagalak naman po tayo na masusuportahan ng mas mataas na pondo ang mahalagang agencies at supervised entities na ito.

**[06:44:06.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007471)  
Sir, Chair, the Executive Director of the NACC is also here. But in a nutshell, yun ho ay karagdagang plantilla positions na na-create. So that's why doon ho mapupunta yung pagdagdag.

**[06:44:18.290] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007472)  
But unless the Executive Director wants to expound kung ba't may dagdag tayong mga plantilla positions.

**[06:44:23.450] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007473)  
Good afternoon po. Actually tulad nga ng sinabi ni Secrex, yung pagtaas ng budget namin ay para lang bayaran yung mga additional plantilla positions that were given.

**[06:44:39.170] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007474)  
It was given to the NACC in the last year. So in effect, parang wala naman talagang in-increase in terms of administering the different projects and sana mga capacity building for our social workers and the different regional offices.

**[06:44:54.390] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007475)  
So meron din sana kaming wish list. Pero yun, at the very least, earlier.

**[06:45:00.000] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007476)  
nga I stated, at the very least

**[06:45:02.180] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007477)  
we also need a certain amount of money

**[06:45:03.980] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007478)  
to pay for certain social workers

**[06:45:06.140] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007479)  
that were employed this year

**[06:45:07.760] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007480)  
pero yung nag-grant under the NEP

**[06:45:09.960] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007481)  
is just sufficient, is not even

**[06:45:11.880] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007482)  
sufficient to pay for them.

**[06:45:13.980] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007483)  
So, at the very least, yun po yung

**[06:45:15.860] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007484)  
hinihingi namin para mabayaran

**[06:45:18.080] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007485)  
yung social workers who are already currently

**[06:45:20.080] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007486)  
employed and sana nga yung

**[06:45:22.120] NACC Undersecretary Maria Gabriela Concepcion** (asr-007487)  
wish list namin mag-grant din po.

**[06:45:25.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007488)  
Maraming salamat,

**[06:45:26.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007489)  
Mr. Chair. Nagagalak po tayo

**[06:45:28.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007490)  
na may pagtaas ng pondo para sa

**[06:45:30.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007491)  
ating mga personel, pero narinig

**[06:45:32.160] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007492)  
po natin, hindi lang sa DSWD

**[06:45:34.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007493)  
kundi pareho din na

**[06:45:35.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007494)  
malaking concern ng ating mga agencies

**[06:45:38.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007495)  
yung hindi lang sapat

**[06:45:40.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007496)  
pero yung nararapat na

**[06:45:42.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007497)  
compensation, mga

**[06:45:44.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007498)  
benepisyo para sa ating mga personel

**[06:45:46.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007499)  
lalong-lalo na ng mga social workers

**[06:45:48.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007500)  
welcome naman ang dagdag na

**[06:45:50.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007501)  
5,000 na plantilla

**[06:45:52.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007502)  
positions na items para sa social workers

**[06:45:54.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007503)  
pero nabanggit din kanina ng

**[06:45:56.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007504)  
Secretary na nasa

**[06:45:57.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007505)  
10,000 pa yung mga kailangan

**[06:46:00.020] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007506)  
nating mapunuan para sa mga susunod

**[06:46:02.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007507)  
na taon.

**[06:46:03.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007508)  
Madam Chair, Mr. Chair, Madam

**[06:46:05.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007509)  
Congresswoman, marami-rami pa ho

**[06:46:07.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007510)  
ang kailangan. Yung nabanggit ko namang haragdagan

**[06:46:10.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007511)  
sa 4Ps lamang ho yun. We still

**[06:46:11.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007512)  
have other social workers and development

**[06:46:13.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007513)  
workers working in the other clusters

**[06:46:15.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007514)  
of the department. So na sana

**[06:46:18.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007515)  
patuloy naman ho kami nakikipag-ugnayan

**[06:46:20.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007516)  
sa DBM and Secretary Kim

**[06:46:21.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007517)  
has been very helpful in

**[06:46:23.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007518)  
regularizing, giving

**[06:46:26.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007519)  
us regular positions para sa mga

**[06:46:27.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007520)  
COS namin at

**[06:46:29.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007521)  
contractual workers namin na ang tagal-tagal

**[06:46:31.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007522)  
na nana sa department.

**[06:46:34.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007523)  
Kung may numero, Mr. Chair,

**[06:46:35.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007524)  
ang DSWD ng total number

**[06:46:37.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007525)  
ng ating social workers, development

**[06:46:39.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007526)  
workers. Hindi pa ho

**[06:46:41.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007527)  
dito kasama yung mga employed

**[06:46:43.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007528)  
sa LGU, tama po ba?

**[06:46:45.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007529)  
Hindi pa ho kasi the

**[06:46:46.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007530)  
local government units, hindi ho kami ang

**[06:46:49.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007531)  
employer nila. We are merely their

**[06:46:51.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007532)  
standard setting group or their

**[06:46:53.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007533)  
regulator so to speak.

**[06:46:55.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007534)  
Ang total...

**[06:46:56.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007535)  
Mga...

**[06:46:57.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007536)  
Ang total na body ho ng

**[06:47:01.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007537)  
DSWD right now is

**[06:47:03.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007538)  
56,906

**[06:47:05.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007539)  
of which

**[06:47:07.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007540)  
only 43...

**[06:47:09.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007541)  
of which 43% of those are

**[06:47:11.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007542)  
COS. So yung napakalayo

**[06:47:13.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007543)  
pa namin sa marka na

**[06:47:15.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007544)  
ikapapasa. Pero tulad ng sinabi ko

**[06:47:17.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007545)  
yung binigay lang na

**[06:47:19.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007546)  
isang malaking bulto, 5,000 agad

**[06:47:21.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007547)  
at napangakuan kami na

**[06:47:23.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007548)  
pinoprocess na nga ho na yung sunod pang 5

**[06:47:25.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007549)  
and then tuloy-tuloy na po.

**[06:47:27.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007550)  
Mr. Chair, dapat tuloy-tuloy

**[06:47:29.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007551)  
ang processing nito at hangarin natin

**[06:47:31.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007552)  
na talagang mapunan yung

**[06:47:33.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007553)  
pangangailangan para sa regularization

**[06:47:35.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007554)  
dito sa ating mga social workers

**[06:47:38.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007555)  
at iba pang mga development workers.

**[06:47:40.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007556)  
Ah, gayon din, naghahin din po

**[06:47:42.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007557)  
ang representasyon na ito ng panukalang

**[06:47:43.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007558)  
resolusyon para batignan din yung

**[06:47:45.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007559)  
situation ng mga LGU-based

**[06:47:47.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007560)  
na social workers at development

**[06:47:49.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007561)  
workers. Dahil ho, may mga

**[06:47:51.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007562)  
pagkakataon ho na lumalapit sa aming

**[06:47:53.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007563)  
representasyon na ang nakukuha lang nila

**[06:47:55.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007564)  
honorarium na pagkaliayon.

**[06:47:57.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007565)  
Itliit, itliit, no, na hindi po

**[06:47:59.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007566)  
nararapat para

**[06:48:01.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007567)  
dun sa malaki at

**[06:48:03.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007568)  
napakahalagang trabaho na ginagawa nila

**[06:48:05.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007569)  
sa kanilang mga lokalidad.

**[06:48:07.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007570)  
Well noted, Mr. Chairman, and we

**[06:48:09.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007571)  
will be working with the Office of the Good Congress

**[06:48:11.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007572)  
woman for the data that she needs.

**[06:48:13.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007573)  
Even for the local social welfare offices.

**[06:48:16.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007574)  
Meron naman nung kaming datos yan,

**[06:48:17.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007575)  
malaman lang po namin kung ano yung gusto

**[06:48:19.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007576)  
kunyong data.

**[06:48:21.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007577)  
Maari din ba nating malaman, Mr. Chair, kung

**[06:48:23.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007578)  
pwedeng magpaliwanag ang DBM?

**[06:48:26.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007579)  
Hindi lang ho, CWC,

**[06:48:27.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007580)  
JJWC ang nag-raise nung concerns

**[06:48:29.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007581)  
sa mga cuts pagdating sa

**[06:48:31.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007582)  
ICT-related

**[06:48:33.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007583)  
at na programs

**[06:48:35.820] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007584)  
at mga digitalization steps nila.

**[06:48:38.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007585)  
Ano ang paliwanag kung bakit?

**[06:48:39.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007586)  
Mr. Chair, hindi man ho ako

**[06:48:41.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007587)  
taga DBM, pero dahil active ho

**[06:48:43.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007588)  
kami sa pagpunta at pag-follow-up.

**[06:48:47.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007589)  
Admittedly,

**[06:48:48.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007590)  
the procurement process of

**[06:48:49.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007591)  
IT-related equipment is very

**[06:48:51.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007592)  
complicated. Manadalas ho,

**[06:48:54.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007593)  
nagmamarket scan, mababa yung

**[06:48:55.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007594)  
presyo na ipopost namin, mag-fail.

**[06:48:57.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007595)  
So, I believe, dun sa

**[06:48:59.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007596)  
kanilang pag-analisa, binalik lang nila

**[06:49:01.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007597)  
sa amin, actually, hindi nga pag-analisa

**[06:49:03.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007598)  
kung sinabi na sa amin, yung mga

**[06:49:05.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007599)  
sure-shot items, subscriptions,

**[06:49:08.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007600)  
yung mga alam nila

**[06:49:09.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007601)  
kaya namin i-procure. And then,

**[06:49:12.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007602)  
furthermore, I think the

**[06:49:13.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007603)  
national government through DICT is

**[06:49:15.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007604)  
embarking on a streamlining. Kasi

**[06:49:17.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007605)  
sa pagkakaunawa ko

**[06:49:19.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007606)  
in the last BICAM, lumabas

**[06:49:21.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007607)  
ho doon yung cut. Doon

**[06:49:23.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007608)  
naman ho nangyari yung cut, hindi

**[06:49:25.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007609)  
naman ho sa DBM.

**[06:49:27.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007610)  
Kasi nga nakita nila na in some

**[06:49:29.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007611)  
departments, hindi ho kami, hindi

**[06:49:31.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007612)  
siya nagtuturo ako, kung hindi, napakahirap

**[06:49:33.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007613)  
nung procurement process. Lagi

**[06:49:35.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007614)  
nag-fail, kaya ang laki nung underutilized.

**[06:49:38.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007615)  
So, from my understanding,

**[06:49:39.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007616)  
binawasan lang nila yun para maobligay mga

**[06:49:41.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007617)  
departamento to efficiently use

**[06:49:43.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007618)  
their ICT budgets.

**[06:49:45.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007619)  
Lalong-lalo na pagdating doon sa mga alam naman

**[06:49:47.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007620)  
namin, kaya at esensyal

**[06:49:49.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007621)  
i-procure, like subscriptions,

**[06:49:51.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007622)  
firewall for cyber security,

**[06:49:53.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007623)  
email subscriptions,

**[06:49:55.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007624)  
yan ho yung mga inuna nila.

**[06:49:57.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007625)  
Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

**[06:49:59.740] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007626)  
At kinakailangan din natin, nag-report kasi

**[06:50:01.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007627)  
dito yung DICT na gusto nila

**[06:50:03.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007628)  
na masynchronized, unified na

**[06:50:05.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007629)  
yung mga sistema natin pagdating

**[06:50:07.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007630)  
na sabi nyo gastos para sa mga

**[06:50:09.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007631)  
subscription, renewal ng mga licenses

**[06:50:11.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007632)  
at marami pang iba, na kung pwede

**[06:50:13.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007633)  
magtulungan yung mga agencies natin

**[06:50:15.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007634)  
pagdating sa mga gastusin na yan.

**[06:50:17.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007635)  
At magamit pa natin sa iba

**[06:50:19.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007636)  
yung mga pondo na kinakailangan

**[06:50:21.600] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007637)  
ng ating mga kababayan.

**[06:50:23.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007638)  
Ngayon naman, Mr. Chair, natanong ko kanina

**[06:50:25.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007639)  
yung tungkol sa sitwasyon ng mga

**[06:50:27.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007640)  
child development centers, child

**[06:50:29.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007641)  
minding centers, at supervised

**[06:50:31.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007642)  
neighborhood play. At nilinaw ng

**[06:50:33.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007643)  
DSWD na ang role nila

**[06:50:35.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007644)  
sa pagtitiyak

**[06:50:37.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007645)  
ng operation ng mga

**[06:50:39.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007646)  
mahalagang centers na ito ay may

**[06:50:41.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007647)  
kinalaman sa feeding program.

**[06:50:43.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007648)  
At yung mga nutritional requirements

**[06:50:45.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007649)  
po ng ating mga

**[06:50:47.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007650)  
beneficiaries, ng mga enrollees

**[06:50:49.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007651)  
sa mga centers nito.

**[06:50:51.680] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007652)  
Pwede ko ba kayo magbigay ng detalye

**[06:50:53.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007653)  
kung ano yung financial

**[06:50:55.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007654)  
at technical support na binibigay ng DSWD?

**[06:50:57.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007655)  
O CWC? At ng

**[06:50:59.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007656)  
iba pang attached at supervised

**[06:51:01.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007657)  
agency sa mga centers nito?

**[06:51:03.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007658)  
Well, two things po. Una, pagdating sa

**[06:51:05.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007659)  
nutrisyon ng mga kabataan na nasa loob ng mga

**[06:51:07.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007660)  
ECC, mga

**[06:51:09.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007661)  
daycare centers natin,

**[06:51:11.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007662)  
kami ho talaga ang in-charge ho dyan.

**[06:51:14.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007663)  
We have a

**[06:51:15.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007664)  
information system wherein the enrollees

**[06:51:17.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007665)  
pag in-enroll nila, yun ho yung

**[06:51:19.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007666)  
angkop na halaga ng pagkain

**[06:51:21.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007667)  
na nakita nyo sa aming

**[06:51:23.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007668)  
line item na supplemental feeding program.

**[06:51:26.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007669)  
So, over the course of

**[06:51:27.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007670)  
the past four years,

**[06:51:30.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007671)  
ang ginagawa ho namin dyan,

**[06:51:31.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007672)  
almost 55% to

**[06:51:33.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007673)  
60% of that, din na-download na natin

**[06:51:35.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007674)  
directly sa mga local government unit

**[06:51:37.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007675)  
para sila mag-procure using the

**[06:51:39.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007676)  
hopefully we keep on pushing them to use

**[06:51:41.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007677)  
the sagipsaka law para

**[06:51:43.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007678)  
diretso na sa mga magsasaka. So, yun

**[06:51:45.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007679)  
ho yung assistance natin. It's

**[06:51:47.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007680)  
one, the financial assistance to

**[06:51:49.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007681)  
be able to buy food for the

**[06:51:51.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007682)  
ECCDE students, and

**[06:51:53.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007683)  
two, yung mga nutritionists namin of course

**[06:51:55.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007684)  
provide technical support in the type

**[06:51:57.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007685)  
of menu or recipes that

**[06:51:59.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007686)  
they require. Para

**[06:52:01.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007687)  
masigurado natin na

**[06:52:02.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007688)  
to some degree, hindi

**[06:52:05.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007689)  
man pare-parehas yung pagkain, pero

**[06:52:07.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007690)  
yung nutritional at caloric intake

**[06:52:09.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007691)  
ay pare-parehas. Pangatlo,

**[06:52:11.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007692)  
part yan

**[06:52:13.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007693)  
ng SGLG requirement

**[06:52:15.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007694)  
namin through the CWC, yung

**[06:52:17.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007695)  
being a child-friendly city.

**[06:52:19.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007696)  
Remember po, meron hong

**[06:52:21.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007697)  
SGLG component on child welfare

**[06:52:23.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007698)  
at kasama ho dyan yung

**[06:52:25.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007699)  
enrollment on ECCD.

**[06:52:27.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007700)  
Pangalawa, meron rin hong sarili

**[06:52:29.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007701)  
yung CWC na child-friendly

**[06:52:32.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007702)  
cities, to,

**[06:52:33.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007703)  
na kasama rin ho yung

**[06:52:35.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007704)  
enrollment sa ECCD because

**[06:52:37.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007705)  
we all know na napakababa pa rin

**[06:52:39.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007706)  
ng intake, ng uptake

**[06:52:41.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007707)  
ng enrollment sa ECCD.

**[06:52:45.260] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007708)  
Maraming salamat, at nais din

**[06:52:47.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007709)  
natin hingin for submission sa

**[06:52:49.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007710)  
committee na ito, ang regional breakdown

**[06:52:51.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007711)  
para sa supplementary feeding program,

**[06:52:53.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007712)  
gayon din sa food stamp program,

**[06:52:55.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007713)  
at sa bagong programa na

**[06:52:57.240] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007714)  
reducing food insecurity

**[06:52:59.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007715)  
and under-nutrition.

**[06:53:01.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007716)  
We will comply and we will

**[06:53:02.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007717)  
submit to the committee.

**[06:53:05.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007718)  
Maraming salamat. Ngayon naman, Mr. Chair,

**[06:53:07.420] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007719)  
tungkol sa special committee

**[06:53:09.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007720)  
on LGBTQIA plus affairs,

**[06:53:12.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007721)  
nais ko hong malaman

**[06:53:13.340] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007722)  
kung nakikipag-ungnayan na kayo ngayon

**[06:53:15.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007723)  
sa iba't-ibang mga civil

**[06:53:17.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007724)  
society and people's organizations

**[06:53:19.500] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007725)  
na based

**[06:53:21.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007726)  
sa mga schools or sa mga communities

**[06:53:23.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007727)  
at yung

**[06:53:24.860] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007728)  
organized din po ng ating mga

**[06:53:27.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007729)  
LGUs, para matiyak na

**[06:53:29.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007730)  
narinig natin yung

**[06:53:31.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007731)  
kanilang mga boses sa iba't-ibang

**[06:53:33.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007732)  
mga issues ng bayan

**[06:53:35.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007733)  
at mga programa ng ating

**[06:53:37.140] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007734)  
pamahalaan.

**[06:53:40.020] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007735)  
Good afternoon po, again. Yes po,

**[06:53:42.480] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007736)  
Madam Congressman,

**[06:53:44.460] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007737)  
we do that. Since day one po ng assumption

**[06:53:46.380] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007738)  
ko, we practically go around

**[06:53:48.420] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007739)  
and get the best practices of every

**[06:53:50.200] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007740)  
organizations and every LGUs.

**[06:53:52.980] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007741)  
Nanguna nga po dyan yung

**[06:53:54.120] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007742)  
Quezon City sa kanilang Right to Care Ordinance.

**[06:53:57.060] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007743)  
So also,

**[06:53:58.380] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007744)  
not only LGUs, we go to universities

**[06:54:00.420] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007745)  
and we plan to be consistent

**[06:54:02.260] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007746)  
in visiting mga universities po.

**[06:54:04.280] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007747)  
Recently, we visited the Philippine Normal

**[06:54:06.400] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007748)  
University po because

**[06:54:08.440] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007749)  
of their memorandum

**[06:54:10.940] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007750)  
na ina-acknowledge nila

**[06:54:12.940] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007751)  
yung lived name

**[06:54:14.720] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007752)  
ng mga member

**[06:54:16.520] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007753)  
ng community. So, yeah, we practically

**[06:54:18.460] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007754)  
go around po to get best

**[06:54:20.260] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007755)  
practices po.

**[06:54:23.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007756)  
Magkano ang pondo nyo

**[06:54:24.580] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007757)  
ngayon sa pagsasagawa

**[06:54:26.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007758)  
ng ganyang tipo ng mga konsultasyon?

**[06:54:28.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007759)  
Nandarinig natin, Mr. Chair,

**[06:54:30.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007760)  
ang mga nga ilangan talaga nung oras

**[06:54:32.380] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007761)  
ng personel, mga pasilidad,

**[06:54:34.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007762)  
para matiyak, naligtas din yung espasyo

**[06:54:36.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007763)  
para sa mga makabuluhang

**[06:54:38.200] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007764)  
konsultasyon na ito.

**[06:54:40.460] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007765)  
Kami po yung pumupunta,

**[06:54:42.380] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007766)  
ma'am. So, we have

**[06:54:44.400] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007767)  
our RATA. Also, we have our MOE

**[06:54:46.500] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007768)  
po, per year. Ako po meron.

**[06:54:48.480] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007769)  
Pero, in terms of talaga,

**[06:54:50.460] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007770)  
since national po yung scope namin,

**[06:54:53.040] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007771)  
wala po kaming budget

**[06:54:54.060] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007772)  
because hindi nga po kami umabot. Because yung

**[06:54:56.100] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007773)  
timing po nung assumption ko is September

**[06:54:58.380] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007774)  
9 of last year lang. So, hindi po

**[06:55:00.480] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007775)  
kami umabot ng first hearing,

**[06:55:02.800] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007776)  
budget hearing for 2026.

**[06:55:05.320] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007777)  
So, wala po kaming

**[06:55:06.480] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007778)  
sa NEP.

**[06:55:08.660] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007779)  
Wala po kaming budget po talaga.

**[06:55:10.560] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-007780)  
MOE lang po.

**[06:55:12.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007781)  
Zero budget, Mr. Chair, para sa

**[06:55:14.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007782)  
mga conduct

**[06:55:16.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007783)  
ng meaningful participation

**[06:55:18.980] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007784)  
sa sektor

**[06:55:20.640] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007785)  
na napakahalaga? Mr. Chair,

**[06:55:22.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007786)  
Madam Congresswoman,

**[06:55:24.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007787)  
though it is true na wala hong budget,

**[06:55:26.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007788)  
ang ginagawa na lang ho ng Departamento

**[06:55:28.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007789)  
namin is to carve it out from our existing

**[06:55:30.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007790)  
clusters. Para meron ho silang

**[06:55:32.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007791)  
pang-operate or pang-ikot because it will be unfair.

**[06:55:35.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007792)  
Sayang rin naman.

**[06:55:36.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007793)  
Gustong-gusto nila gawin yung

**[06:55:38.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007794)  
kanilang mandato. Pero,

**[06:55:40.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007795)  
admittedly, it's not enough. Kasi we're just

**[06:55:42.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007796)  
cannibalizing from existing

**[06:55:43.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007797)  
operations as far as practicable

**[06:55:46.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007798)  
and meaning pasok sa mandate

**[06:55:48.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007799)  
rin ng program na yun.

**[06:55:51.100] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007800)  
Maraming salamat sa

**[06:55:52.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007801)  
update. At hanga din natin,

**[06:55:54.540] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007802)  
bagamat meron na tayong mga pinagkukunan

**[06:55:56.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007803)  
na mga pondo,

**[06:55:57.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007804)  
kung merong specific

**[06:55:59.660] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007805)  
at separate line item

**[06:56:02.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007806)  
o programa na

**[06:56:03.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007807)  
maidadagdag tayo na

**[06:56:05.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007808)  
para sa Special Committee on

**[06:56:07.720] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007809)  
LGBTQIA plus affairs,

**[06:56:09.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007810)  
ay mahalaga ito. Para matiyak na

**[06:56:11.780] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007811)  
sa mga susunod na panahon, kapag may

**[06:56:13.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007812)  
mga katanungan ng Kongreso na ito

**[06:56:15.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007813)  
tungkol sa mga palisya na may kinalaman

**[06:56:18.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007814)  
sa gender and

**[06:56:19.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007815)  
development or sa

**[06:56:21.460] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007816)  
issues and concerns ng LGBTQIA plus,

**[06:56:24.620] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007817)  
meron po tayong matatawag

**[06:56:26.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007818)  
ng Special Committee.

**[06:56:27.960] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007819)  
Kaya natin na

**[06:56:28.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007820)  
nagsagawa ng kanilang konsultasyon

**[06:56:32.120] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007821)  
sa ating mga komunidad. Maraming salamat

**[06:56:34.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007822)  
Mr. Chair. Maraming salamat sa

**[06:56:35.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007823)  
DSWD at kasamang representasyon

**[06:56:38.060] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007824)  
na ito sa, hindi lang ko nananawagan

**[06:56:40.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007825)  
pero naghuhumiyaw na ma-restore

**[06:56:42.220] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007826)  
lahat ng budget cuts at

**[06:56:43.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007827)  
at taasan ng pondo para sa social welfare

**[06:56:46.180] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-007828)  
and development. Maraming salamat, Mr. Chair.

**[06:56:48.240] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007829)  
Thank you, Kong Sara.

**[06:56:49.820] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007830)  
Your manifestation is duly noted.

**[06:56:52.500] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007831)  
We now recognize

**[06:56:53.760] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-007832)  
Kong Tino.

**[06:56:56.380] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007833)  
Thank you, Chair.

**[06:56:57.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007834)  
Chair, unang talong

**[06:57:00.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007835)  
tanong kaugnay sa

**[06:57:02.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007836)  
usapin ng drugs.

**[06:57:05.560] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007837)  
Children

**[06:57:06.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007838)  
and youth and

**[06:57:08.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007839)  
substance use.

**[06:57:10.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007840)  
So, ano po ang

**[06:57:12.320] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007841)  
efforts ng DSWD

**[06:57:15.280] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007842)  
kaugnay dito?

**[06:57:18.900] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007843)  
Napakahalaga po ng usapin

**[06:57:20.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007844)  
na ito, lalo pa at

**[06:57:22.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007845)  
nanggaling tayo sa

**[06:57:23.800] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007846)  
marahas na drug war

**[06:57:26.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007847)  
na pangunahin.

**[06:57:27.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007848)  
Dahas ang ginamit.

**[06:57:30.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007849)  
Kaya nga may issue ng Crimes Against Humanity

**[06:57:32.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007850)  
ang previous

**[06:57:34.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007851)  
President. Dahil dyan.

**[06:57:36.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007852)  
So, importante na

**[06:57:38.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007853)  
maipakita ng gobyerno na merong

**[06:57:42.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007854)  
mga efektibong

**[06:57:44.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007855)  
programa para tugunan

**[06:57:46.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007856)  
yung usapin ng

**[06:57:47.420] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007857)  
drug use or substance use.

**[06:57:50.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007858)  
So, apparently, meron kayong

**[06:57:52.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007859)  
programang, program

**[06:57:54.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007860)  
silong? Is that correct?

**[06:57:57.120] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007861)  
Could you tell us?

**[06:57:57.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007862)  
About it? Anong ginagawa ng DSWD

**[06:58:00.160] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007863)  
kaugnay dyan?

**[06:58:02.260] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007864)  
At may, bakano ba ang budget na ito?

**[06:58:05.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007865)  
And will

**[06:58:06.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007866)  
this be carried forward or

**[06:58:07.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007867)  
institutionalized in the future?

**[06:58:26.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007868)  
Mr. Chairman, again, this program

**[06:58:28.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007869)  
is part of our Social Technology

**[06:58:30.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007870)  
Bureau. Pag nasa Social Technology Bureau,

**[06:58:32.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007871)  
ibig sabihin, pinapilot lang ho namin

**[06:58:34.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007872)  
before we expand it to make sure na

**[06:58:36.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007873)  
mabisa at effective.

**[06:58:38.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007874)  
It goes beyond just giving financial

**[06:58:40.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007875)  
assistance, but rather we use the

**[06:58:42.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007876)  
capacities ng aming mga social workers,

**[06:58:44.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007877)  
to help yung mga families cope with

**[06:58:46.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007878)  
what is happening to the family.

**[06:58:48.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007879)  
Kami kasi, naniniwala ko kami,

**[06:58:50.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007880)  
na sa tuwing may

**[06:58:52.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007881)  
krisis sa isang individual,

**[06:58:54.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007882)  
in this case, drug use or drug

**[06:58:56.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007883)  
dependency, yung buong pamilya

**[06:58:58.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007884)  
goes under stress. Hindi naman

**[06:59:00.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007885)  
nasasabi natin na ang stressful lang yung

**[06:59:02.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007886)  
yung mismong drug dependent,

**[06:59:04.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007887)  
kundi yung buong pamilya. So, this is

**[06:59:06.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007888)  
a family intervention

**[06:59:08.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007889)  
to help the family cope.

**[06:59:10.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007890)  
Sa ngayon, maliit lang ho yung budget niya.

**[06:59:12.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007891)  
Nang 2026,

**[06:59:14.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007892)  
it's at 900,000,

**[06:59:17.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007893)  
close to a million

**[06:59:18.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007894)  
for the pilot. Maliit lamang yung pilot.

**[06:59:20.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007895)  
But for 2027,

**[06:59:22.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007896)  
it's now at 8.6

**[06:59:25.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007897)  
million pesos.

**[06:59:27.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007898)  
By the way, Mr. Chair,

**[06:59:29.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007899)  
ano kami ho dito? Collaborating

**[06:59:30.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007900)  
partner lang kami ng Dangerous Drug Board.

**[06:59:33.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007901)  
Sa kanila talaga yung

**[06:59:34.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007902)  
heavy lifting. Kami pumapasok lang kami

**[06:59:36.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007903)  
kasi kami yung merong expertise on

**[06:59:38.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007904)  
psychosocial interventions,

**[06:59:39.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007905)  
as well as family support,

**[06:59:41.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007906)  
at yung design. Pero malamang,

**[06:59:43.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007907)  
hindi malamang, I'm very confident

**[06:59:46.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007908)  
na pag tinignan nyo yung Dangerous Drug Board,

**[06:59:48.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007909)  
this same program will appear at mas malaki

**[06:59:50.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007910)  
yung budget provision doon.

**[06:59:51.880] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007911)  
Ah, okay. So, from

**[06:59:54.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007912)  
an initial pilot,

**[06:59:56.480] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007913)  
tapos ngayon, for 2027,

**[06:59:59.140] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007914)  
8 million

**[07:00:00.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007915)  
8 million, from 900,000 to 8 million?

**[07:00:02.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007916)  
Yes, to provide that family intervention in terms of emotional support

**[07:00:06.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007917)  
para mapalaki pa natin, maparami po yung mga lugar na pinagsisilbihan.

**[07:00:10.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007918)  
Thank you po.

**[07:00:11.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007919)  
Next topic, haugnay po sa social pension beneficiaries.

**[07:00:16.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007920)  
Ito po yung under Republic Act 11916,

**[07:00:21.020] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007921)  
1,000 pesos monthly pension to qualified indigent senior citizens.

**[07:00:26.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007922)  
I think in your presentation kanina, correct me if I wrong,

**[07:00:29.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007923)  
if I'm wrong, may pinakita kayong statistics,

**[07:00:34.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007924)  
something like 550,000 qualified indigent senior citizens

**[07:00:40.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007925)  
pero hindi pa nakikinabang, hindi nakakatanggap nitong 1,000.

**[07:00:45.060] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007926)  
So was that correct?

**[07:00:46.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007927)  
Mr. Che, let me qualify that statement.

**[07:00:48.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007928)  
Yung 550,000, yan ho yung natagpuan namin sa CBMS.

**[07:00:52.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007929)  
Pero recently nga, alam namin na mas malaki pa yung numero.

**[07:00:55.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007930)  
It's almost double of what we're doing right now.

**[07:00:57.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007931)  
Pero hindi namin sila mahanap sa CBMS.

**[07:01:00.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007932)  
So tulad ng sinabi namin,

**[07:01:01.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007933)  
nag-propose kami ng panibagong mekanismo sa PSA

**[07:01:05.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007934)  
kung saan yung mga waitlist sa mga local government units,

**[07:01:08.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007935)  
sa mga OSCA offices nila,

**[07:01:10.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007936)  
kinukuha namin, ipapasa namin sa PSA

**[07:01:12.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007937)  
to tell them na wala sa CBMS

**[07:01:14.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007938)  
pero pakitignan, may birth registry ba ito?

**[07:01:17.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007939)  
At wala pa sa death registry.

**[07:01:19.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007940)  
Kung susuma, total natin yun, it's almost double.

**[07:01:22.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007941)  
Kasi as mentioned nga, ang population ng senior citizen natin

**[07:01:25.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007942)  
nasa 11 million, pero ang nakikater lang namin yan

**[07:01:28.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007943)  
is almost 5.

**[07:01:29.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007944)  
5 million or 5.5 million.

**[07:01:32.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007945)  
Yung binanggit ko kanina na 550,000, yun lang yun na sa CBMS.

**[07:01:36.300] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007946)  
Okay.

**[07:01:38.680] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007947)  
Sa inyong tansya, 11 million ang qualified indigent senior citizens?

**[07:01:45.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007948)  
Those are senior citizens.

**[07:01:47.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007949)  
Hindi pa namin namin sila naiisa-isa

**[07:01:49.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007950)  
because we don't want to raise their hopes.

**[07:01:51.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007951)  
But, nasa waitlist sila ng LGUs.

**[07:01:55.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007952)  
So some type of validation or application has been launched already.

**[07:01:58.840] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007953)  
Okay.

**[07:01:59.620] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007954)  
Pero, okay.

**[07:02:01.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007955)  
Yung total universe, kumbaga, 11 million.

**[07:02:03.940] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007956)  
Tapos ang sinasabi nyo, ang nabibigyan pala ngayon ng 1,000, 5.5 million.

**[07:02:09.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007957)  
Is that correct?

**[07:02:10.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007958)  
4.2 million.

**[07:02:12.200] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007959)  
4.2 million.

**[07:02:13.520] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007960)  
So potentially,

**[07:02:15.500] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007961)  
ilan yun?

**[07:02:16.920] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007962)  
It's almost double.

**[07:02:19.440] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007963)  
More than double.

**[07:02:22.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007964)  
Almost double, you're correct.

**[07:02:24.080] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007965)  
Okay.

**[07:02:24.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007966)  
So, for 2027,

**[07:02:31.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007967)  
ilan po ang target n'yong madagdag sa 4.5 million na kasalukuyang beneficiaries?

**[07:02:43.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007968)  
And do you have the budget proposal for that?

**[07:02:48.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007969)  
Mr. Chair, it's part of the list that we intended to submit today,

**[07:02:51.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007970)  
but we will edit because of the discussions this afternoon.

**[07:02:54.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007971)  
6.8 billion pa ho na karagdagan ang hinihingi natin

**[07:02:58.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007972)  
to be able to cover the more than double na hindi nila sa service.

**[07:03:02.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007973)  
So, tina-target nyo?

**[07:03:03.400] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007974)  
Tina-target nyo?

**[07:03:03.460] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007975)  
Tina-target nyo na maabot lahat for 2027,

**[07:03:06.700] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007976)  
kaya meron kayong proposal for over 6 billion additional.

**[07:03:11.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007977)  
That is correct.

**[07:03:11.980] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007978)  
Okay.

**[07:03:12.860] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007979)  
Masalamat po.

**[07:03:13.580] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007980)  
And we will support that, of course.

**[07:03:16.180] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007981)  
If you will propose that as an institutional amendment.

**[07:03:21.600] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007982)  
Okay.

**[07:03:22.720] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007983)  
Yung isang tanong na lang po,

**[07:03:24.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007984)  
yung kaugnay naman sa Expanded Centenarians Act.

**[07:03:30.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007985)  
Ayon dito,

**[07:03:31.000] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007986)  
So, upon reaching 80, 85, 90, 95 ng mga senior citizens,

**[07:03:37.100] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007987)  
they are entitled to a cash gift of 10,000.

**[07:03:40.340] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007988)  
No?

**[07:03:43.240] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007989)  
Ang tanong po, ang concern ay, siyempre,

**[07:03:49.220] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007990)  
kung matagal yung proseso minsan,

**[07:03:50.820] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007991)  
baka hindi na mapakinabangan ng mga senior citizens natin.

**[07:03:53.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007992)  
So, ano po ang status ng implementation nito?

**[07:03:55.960] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-007993)  
So,

**[07:03:56.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007994)  
Mr. Cheras earlier stated,

**[07:04:00.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007995)  
I would yield the floor to the NCSC representative

**[07:04:02.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007996)  
dahil supervised agency sila.

**[07:04:05.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007997)  
And in the letters na back and forth na binasa kanina ni Congresswoman Magsaysay,

**[07:04:09.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007998)  
they made it very clear that we are only to coordinate with them

**[07:04:12.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-007999)  
but not to interfere with their operations.

**[07:04:15.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008000)  
So, I would leave the answering to somebody who is more competent on the matter,

**[07:04:20.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008001)  
which is the NCSC Executive Director who is with us this afternoon.

**[07:04:25.360] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008002)  
Sige po.

**[07:04:26.160] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008003)  
Good afternoon po, Chair.

**[07:04:30.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008004)  
With the indulgence of our Secretary Rex, Rep. Tinio,

**[07:04:34.820] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008005)  
regarding the implementation of the ECA,

**[07:04:37.880] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008006)  
we have already served 179,000 senior citizens as of August.

**[07:04:46.920] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008007)  
And we have already utilized almost 2 billion of our 3.4 million budget.

**[07:04:56.710] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008008)  
Ilan po? 100?

**[07:04:57.510] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008009)  
100?

**[07:04:59.170] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008010)  
179,000 na po mahigit ang ating nasa-serve na senior citizens.

**[07:05:03.250] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008011)  
Anong time frame po niyan?

**[07:05:04.730] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008012)  
Yung 179,000 na yan?

**[07:05:06.590] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008013)  
As of August po, 2026.

**[07:05:09.190] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008014)  
Is it just for this year?

**[07:05:10.650] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008015)  
This fiscal year?

**[07:05:12.050] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008016)  
Yung figure niyo?

**[07:05:13.390] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008017)  
Yes, sir.

**[07:05:14.690] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008018)  
Bale, ang target po for this year ay nasa 299,000 senior citizens.

**[07:05:20.210] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008019)  
Okay.

**[07:05:20.750] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008020)  
Opo.

**[07:05:21.650] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008021)  
Tapos, of that?

**[07:05:23.010] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008022)  
Of that po, yung mga applications na na-process and nabigyan na po natin ay

**[07:05:27.930] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008023)  
179,000.

**[07:05:28.890] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008024)  
179,000.

**[07:05:29.170] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008025)  
So, nabigyan sila ng 10,000?

**[07:05:33.130] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008026)  
Yung iba po, 100,000 kapag kapag nag-100 years old.

**[07:05:37.130] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008027)  
Okay.

**[07:05:37.790] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008028)  
Gano'ng katagal po yung processing time?

**[07:05:39.770] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008029)  
Nasusunod po ba yung...

**[07:05:41.950] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008030)  
Gano'ng katagal po, average processing time?

**[07:05:44.710] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008031)  
Quarterly po kasi kami nagdi-distribute ng aming gift

**[07:05:48.430] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008032)  
because of budgetary constraints in the distribution of the gifts.

**[07:05:54.770] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008033)  
Okay.

**[07:05:56.590] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008034)  
Yung nasa budget nyo na...

**[07:05:59.010] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008035)  
Ilan yun?

**[07:05:59.310] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008036)  
200?

**[07:06:01.070] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008037)  
Ang budget po namin for this year...

**[07:06:03.050] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008038)  
For this year?

**[07:06:04.030] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008039)  
Ay 3.2 billion.

**[07:06:07.830] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008040)  
For how many beneficiaries?

**[07:06:10.610] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008041)  
For how many?

**[07:06:11.850] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008042)  
299,000 senior citizens.

**[07:06:13.530] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008043)  
299,000 senior citizens.

**[07:06:15.390] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008044)  
Yan po ba yung tansya nyo na lahat na maaring mag-qualify?

**[07:06:22.330] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008045)  
Yan po ay PSA projection.

**[07:06:24.550] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008046)  
PSA projection.

**[07:06:25.870] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008047)  
Okay.

**[07:06:26.070] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008048)  
So, sa tansya nyo, kayang ma...

**[07:06:29.010] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008049)  
Abot ang 100% dito?

**[07:06:31.310] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008050)  
Sa tansya po namin, sa dami po ng applications,

**[07:06:34.190] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008051)  
mukhang kukulangin po yung tansya namin na 299,000.

**[07:06:37.870] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008052)  
Kukulangin ng pondo?

**[07:06:39.730] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008053)  
Opo, kasi marami pong applications.

**[07:06:42.350] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008054)  
As of now, nasa halos 200,000 eh.

**[07:06:46.770] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008055)  
179 na yung na-serve.

**[07:06:48.430] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008056)  
Ongoing pa po yung aming cash gift distribution hanggang sa ngayon.

**[07:06:52.950] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008057)  
And ang sineserve na namin,

**[07:06:55.630] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008058)  
mga 20-24.

**[07:06:59.010] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008059)  
Nag-birthday, 20-25.

**[07:07:00.610] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008060)  
Nag-birthday, ngayon lang po nag-a-apply yung iba.

**[07:07:03.650] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008061)  
Kasi...

**[07:07:04.170] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008062)  
Gano'ng katagal o kabilis po ang processing time nyo?

**[07:07:06.810] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008063)  
Yan po ang concern ng mga lumapit sa amin na

**[07:07:10.070] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008064)  
nag-aalala sila na masyadong matagal yung processing time.

**[07:07:14.450] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008065)  
Opo, kasi every 3 months lang po kami nakaka-apply.

**[07:07:17.350] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008066)  
Every 3 months.

**[07:07:18.850] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008067)  
Okay.

**[07:07:21.450] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008068)  
Kano po ang proposal for next year?

**[07:07:23.690] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008069)  
And how many beneficiaries?

**[07:07:26.850] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008070)  
For this year po.

**[07:07:28.030] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008071)  
For next year.

**[07:07:28.710] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008072)  
Yung sa budget proposal nyo.

**[07:07:30.810] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008073)  
For next year po, ang proposal namin ay nasa 303,000 na higit na senior citizens.

**[07:07:36.930] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008074)  
And ang budget po ay nasa 3.8 billion.

**[07:07:40.330] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008075)  
Sa tingin nyo, sapat ang budget na yan?

**[07:07:43.450] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008076)  
Makakarequest naman po kami sakali pong lumampas po sa 303,000

**[07:07:47.550] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008077)  
ang nag-apply na senior citizens.

**[07:07:49.310] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008078)  
Makakarequest kayo kanino?

**[07:07:50.610] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008079)  
Sa DBM po.

**[07:07:52.270] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008080)  
Ah, sa DBM. You mean for augmentation from savings?

**[07:07:56.690] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008081)  
Gano'n po ba yun?

**[07:07:57.830] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008082)  
May iba po.

**[07:07:58.710] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008083)  
May iba pa bang source ang DBM?

**[07:08:01.590] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008084)  
Kasi po, pag nag-apply, saka lang po kami makakahingi ng augmentation sa budget.

**[07:08:09.250] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008085)  
Okay. Sige.

**[07:08:10.670] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008086)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yun na lang po ang tanong natin.

**[07:08:12.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008087)  
Mr. Chairman, if I can just add for the information of Rep. Tinio.

**[07:08:15.990] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008088)  
Ulitin ko, ko-coordination po kami.

**[07:08:17.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008089)  
At nung iniwan po namin yung programa, we have highly encouraged ang NCSC to work with PSA.

**[07:08:23.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008090)  
Kasi remember, may CDMS naman po na po-forecast natin in advance.

**[07:08:28.430] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008091)  
Sino ang mag-80, 85, 90, 95, 100.

**[07:08:32.490] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008092)  
It doesn't have to be a by-application process.

**[07:08:34.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008093)  
Kasi I think, yung concern ho niyo, Congressman, doon na nga nga na ko,

**[07:08:38.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008094)  
yung nag-apply ako, nag-aantay ako.

**[07:08:40.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008095)  
Kasi minsan, mali yung, hindi pa mali, but mali yung projection.

**[07:08:44.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008096)  
But it's not a rocket science po.

**[07:08:47.150] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008097)  
The CDMS actually points us to the way.

**[07:08:50.090] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008098)  
We're now tallying it nga kasi may kopya ho kami niyan dahil nga sa social pension,

**[07:08:54.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008099)  
ilan ang forecasted.

**[07:08:57.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008100)  
But we can submit it to you and we will continue to encourage the NCSC to look at the paradigm

**[07:09:03.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008101)  
na i-forecast na lang natin in advance para tama po yung mahingi na pera sa DBM

**[07:09:08.270] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008102)  
at tayo na ho ang lalapit sa kanila kesa sila ang lalapit sa atin.

**[07:09:13.250] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008103)  
Thank you po and we would appreciate yung may sasubmit na information ni Secretary Rex, Chair.

**[07:09:20.690] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008104)  
So please po, pakibigay lang po. Thank you.

**[07:09:24.810] Rep. Antonio L. Tinio** (asr-008105)  
Yun na lang po, Chair. Maraming salamat.

**[07:09:26.450] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008106)  
Thank you.

**[07:09:27.220] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008107)  
Congressman Tinio.

**[07:09:29.600] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008107-split-2)  
We now recognize Congressman Tonypet Albano.

**[07:09:34.310] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008108)  
Maraming salamat, Chair.

**[07:09:36.310] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008109)  
Unang-una, ako'y proud na proud sa aking kaibigan na si Secretary Rex Cachalian.

**[07:09:44.230] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008110)  
Sana katulad ko makahanap ka ng kabyak sa puso.

**[07:09:50.290] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008111)  
Yun din ang aking mensahe kay Senator, Senate President na kapatid mo.

**[07:09:57.190] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008112)  
Uyung single and available.

**[07:10:00.150] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008113)  
Sana tularan mo akong 32 years younger at makahanap ng pagmamahal ulit.

**[07:10:08.550] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008114)  
I'd really just like to wish you well because you have been doing well with the Department of Social Welfare and Development.

**[07:10:16.010] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008115)  
In fact, I see the Regional Director here, Director Lucy Alan.

**[07:10:21.030] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008116)  
Please, can you please stand up?

**[07:10:22.750] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008117)  
Exemplary po.

**[07:10:25.030] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008118)  
Ang inyong...

**[07:10:27.190] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008119)  
Kawani sa gobyerno doon dahil ito po talaga nakikita namin ang pagtrabaho niya sa buong regyon ay kagalang-galang at napakagaling.

**[07:10:37.390] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008120)  
At maraming salamat sa inyong serbisyo, Director Lucy, at sana po magkaroon pa ng mas madaming kagaya po niya dahil talaga truly deserving po siya.

**[07:10:49.790] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008121)  
Sa inyo po, open invitation po ang probinsya ng Isabela at Region 2 dahil alam ko po kung gano'ng kamahal ng kababayan ko ang inyong serbisyo, lalo na yung mga IECs na binibigyan nyo, lalong-lalo na ngayon at may mga baha at mga problema sa atin po.

**[07:11:09.950] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008122)  
So full support po ako, bagamat gusto ko na ho i-terminate ito para makauwi kayo at magkaroon kayo ng trabaho. Karagdagan,

**[07:11:19.000] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008123)  
Hihintayin po natin si Chairwoman Mika Suansing para i-close po ito. At rest assured, Secretary, kung pwede pong dagdagan pa yung pondo sa inyo, nang sa ganoon makatulong pa po sa lahat ng nangangailangang Pilipino, welcome po, sabihin nyo lang po at ipaglalaban ko po ang budget ng DSWD under the leadership of Secretary Rex Gatchalian po.

**[07:11:44.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008124)  
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Congressman Tonypet. Maraming salamat.

**[07:11:48.210] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008125)  
Thank you.

**[07:11:49.790] Rep. Antonio "Tonypet" T. Albano** (asr-008126)  
At open invitation po sa Isabela kung makakapunta po kayo, hindi sa kasal ko talaga, tapos na yung kasal. Kung meron po kayong panahon, gusto namin po kayong imbitahin para makita nyo naman po kung ano lahat yung mga natulungan yung mga kaprominsyan mo namin sa Region 2. Maraming salamat po, Secretary Rex.

**[07:12:18.510] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008127)  
Thank you. Thank you, Congressman.

**[07:12:20.390] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008128)  
May we recognize?

**[07:12:23.250] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008129)  
SDS, D-9, D-9S.

**[07:12:26.850] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008130)  
Sek, kung anong to, isang tanong lang. Yung tertiary education subsidy went through your portal, diba? That's about 400,000 students, scholars.

**[07:12:41.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008131)  
E-portal is with CHED, sir.

**[07:12:43.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008132)  
Pero you submit to them a list. You submit them a list. Kasi maliit lang yung, hindi namin na-increase yung katilang allowance, no?

**[07:12:53.600] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008133)  
It used to be 60,000.

**[07:12:55.360] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008134)  
Naging 30,000. So, it's like 15,000 per semester. As against before, 30,000 per semester.

**[07:13:05.800] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008135)  
Ngayon, since it went through the portal naman, kayo nagbibigay nung name. In fact, marami rin nag-question na, like in my district, no?

**[07:13:17.560] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008136)  
City of Coronadal is the regional center. We have no state college.

**[07:13:23.940] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008137)  
So, lahat.

**[07:13:25.280] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008138)  
At nag-a-avail ng UniFAST TES. Kasi lahat ng private school nasa City of Koronadal.

**[07:13:32.660] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008139)  
And all, ngayon, ang bagong policy, kailangan na kukunin yung mga new beneficiaries sa portal ng DSWD.

**[07:13:45.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008140)  
Mr. Chair, yung portal nasa CHED, what we do is...

**[07:13:49.140] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008141)  
Pero yung listahan, galing sa DSWD.

**[07:13:50.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008142)  
Since time immemorial po, even before this new TES law, nagsasubmit kami ng list sa kanila.

**[07:13:55.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008143)  
Ng mga 4Ps na eligible na dahil pagkukulehyo na po.

**[07:14:00.200] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008144)  
Kasi ngayon talagang in-implement na.

**[07:14:02.400] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008145)  
Na talagang galing lang sa listahan ninyo.

**[07:14:06.460] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008146)  
So, dahil hindi naman na-increase yung subsidy, ay yung allowance, is it possible na kung sino man yung mga nasa listahan, pwedeng maka-avail ng student assistance?

**[07:14:20.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008147)  
Theoretically, Mr. Chair, yun ho sa pagkakaunawa namin yung essence ng bagong amendment.

**[07:14:25.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008148)  
So, yung eligibility requirement, yung sa TES lang ho, hindi yun sa amin.

**[07:14:32.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008149)  
So, meaning, lahat ng eligible, ipapadala namin sa kanila.

**[07:14:36.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008150)  
Then, we'll tell our parents na punta na kayo sa State U, make sure mag-comply po kayo doon sa eligibility requirements nila.

**[07:14:43.820] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008151)  
Hindi, walang problema doon. Pero what I'm saying, kung pasok na sila doon, gusto naming dagdagan, can we go through DSWD?

**[07:14:54.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008152)  
Yes, Mr. Chair.

**[07:14:55.480] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008153)  
Kasi that's the only way na madagdagan yung...

**[07:14:58.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008154)  
By all means, Mr. Chair.

**[07:15:00.000] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008155)  
Importante yun kasi at least kahit papano, we can find a way na madagdagan kahit konti yung kanilang subsidy.

**[07:15:12.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008156)  
Mr. Chair, nasa menu pa rin naman ng AICS yan, so pwede po.

**[07:15:16.660] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008157)  
Okay. Yun lang, importante yun kasi at least alam ko, pwede ko na silang, pag nalista na sila, pwede pa ako magdagdag sa kanila.

**[07:15:25.640] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008158)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[07:15:26.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008159)  
Thank you, SDS. We recognize kong Mila Magsaysay.

**[07:15:33.420] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008160)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair. We did everything po na makreate itong NCSC, National Commission on Senior Citizens,

**[07:15:46.660] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008161)  
para po meron na talagang sariling komisyon ang mga senior citizens para maalagaan naman po sila ng mabuti.

**[07:15:53.680] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008162)  
Okay.

**[07:15:53.780] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008163)  
Kasi ito na lang po, komisyon na ito, ang focus niya ay senior citizen.

**[07:15:59.820] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008164)  
So ngayon po, nagkukulang talaga ang budget nila.

**[07:16:03.900] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008165)  
Kasi unang-una na sila, kasi hindi nabibigay agad-agad yung centenary yan, yung 80-85-90-95.

**[07:16:15.980] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008166)  
E ang ano naman po nito ay talaga naman pong underman sila.

**[07:16:20.840] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008167)  
Kulang po sila sa tao.

**[07:16:22.700] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008168)  
No, kulang pa sila.

**[07:16:23.780] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008169)  
Sa mga empleyado.

**[07:16:26.020] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008170)  
So kung pwede po, ay humihingi sila ng additional na magkaroon ng job order.

**[07:16:33.340] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008171)  
Maski man lang po, two per province.

**[07:16:37.020] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008172)  
Para po, kasi we have only regional offices now, 18.

**[07:16:41.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008173)  
18 regions po, including Negros, 17.

**[07:16:46.920] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008174)  
So 18 regions na po.

**[07:16:48.660] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008175)  
So paano makaka-centenary yan?

**[07:16:53.780] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008176)  
Kung ilan lang po yung manpower nila.

**[07:16:58.520] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008177)  
So ngayon, they're asking for additional job orders.

**[07:17:02.940] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008178)  
Maski two per province man lang.

**[07:17:05.380] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008179)  
Para efficiently, maano nila yung programs and projects na nasa sa kanila.

**[07:17:12.620] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008180)  
At saka itong ATOP, nung nandun sa DSWD, ay 7.5 million ang budget.

**[07:17:21.460] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008181)  
Kasi noon, ano lang, FESCAP lang ang organization.

**[07:17:28.640] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008182)  
Ngayon, marami na pong senior citizens organization.

**[07:17:32.500] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008183)  
So kailangan naman po, mas malaki pa po ang ibigay na budget para makatulong po sila sa mga organizations.

**[07:17:40.300] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008184)  
So they're asking for 17 million.

**[07:17:43.020] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008185)  
Now they're given only 3.3 million.

**[07:17:45.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008186)  
Sa naman po, aabot ito sa dami ng mga senior citizens.

**[07:17:51.300] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008187)  
So ito pa po, ano na po ito, batas na po itong digitalization.

**[07:18:00.240] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008188)  
Kasi nag-gagather po sila ng data and information ng mga senior citizens.

**[07:18:07.080] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008189)  
So they were asking for 48 million para ma-digitalization ang NCSC.

**[07:18:17.460] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008190)  
Pero zero po ang ibinigay sa kanila.

**[07:18:21.300] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008191)  
E batas na po ito na lahat po ng government agencies, government offices should be digitalized para maging digital po sila.

**[07:18:36.480] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008192)  
So ito naman po, zero pong binigay.

**[07:18:40.860] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008193)  
They're asking for 48.

**[07:18:42.300] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008194)  
Baka naman po pwede na po nating ibigay ito para lalo pong makagather po sila ng information

**[07:18:49.300] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008195)  
tungkol sa mga senior citizens para mas madali po ang pagbibigay ng mga benefits and privileges ng mga seniors.

**[07:19:00.640] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008196)  
Ito naman po, livelihood.

**[07:19:03.400] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008197)  
Kailangan-kailangan po ng mga senior citizens ang livelihood.

**[07:19:08.160] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008198)  
Humingi po sila ng 54 million.

**[07:19:10.760] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008199)  
4 million lang po ang binigay.

**[07:19:12.940] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008200)  
12 million po ang senior citizens.

**[07:19:15.640] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008201)  
Napakadami po ang mga organizations.

**[07:19:17.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008202)  
Kailangan po nila ang livelihood.

**[07:19:21.500] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008203)  
Kasi para po ang mga senior citizens, hindi na po umaasa sa ayuda na pumipila po sila dyan para lang sa 2,000 na mukha silang kawawa at nawawala ng dignidad ang mga senior citizens.

**[07:19:36.300] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008204)  
So kung pwede po, dagdagan naman po ang livelihood para mabigyan nila ng livelihood ang mga senior citizens para magiging makatayo po sila sa sarili.

**[07:19:47.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008205)  
Hindi po sila umaasa ng mga ayuda.

**[07:19:53.260] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008206)  
NCSC asked for 54 million.

**[07:19:56.680] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008207)  
4 million lang po ang ibinigay.

**[07:19:59.000] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008208)  
Saan naman po dadating yung 4 million sa livelihood ng 12 million senior citizens?

**[07:20:05.800] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008209)  
So yan po.

**[07:20:07.060] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008210)  
At ito pa po, isa pa po.

**[07:20:09.760] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008211)  
Yung mga nagbibigay ng mga benefits,

**[07:20:14.580] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008212)  
daladala po nila yung pera, nagtatricycle po sila.

**[07:20:17.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008213)  
Kasi wala pong service ang mga regional offices.

**[07:20:23.440] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008214)  
So kung pwede po, mabigyan po sila, mas kisa lang pong service kada region para naman po may sasakyan yung mga magbibigay ng mga benefits ng mga senior citizens.

**[07:20:37.460] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008215)  
So they were asking for a capital outlay of 111,300,000.

**[07:20:45.600] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008216)  
Zero po ang ibinigay.

**[07:20:47.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008217)  
Paano po magiging efficient ang NCSC sa pagbibigay ng mga benefits kung wala man lang po silang sasakyan para magbigay ng mga beneficyo na ito?

**[07:21:03.140] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008218)  
At wala po silang security guard.

**[07:21:06.580] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008219)  
Eh naghahawak po sila ng mga millions.

**[07:21:09.100] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008220)  
So yan po, itong capital outlay, dito po pupunta sa vehicle per province.

**[07:21:17.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008221)  
Itong vehicle, at saka yung gasolina po, at saka security guard.

**[07:21:23.080] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008222)  
Ngayon po, all in all, ang Negros Island region po, wala pong budget.

**[07:21:29.980] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008223)  
Eh kailangan din po ng region na yan ng budget nila.

**[07:21:33.860] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008224)  
Wala po silang budget.

**[07:21:35.060] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008225)  
So they are requesting 498 million.

**[07:21:41.920] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008226)  
Ang naibigay lang po is 314 million.

**[07:21:46.760] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008227)  
A difference of...

**[07:21:47.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008228)  
Of 184 million.

**[07:21:50.660] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008229)  
Siguro naman po, napakaliit po yan.

**[07:21:53.580] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008230)  
Na hinihingi, nakaragdagan, para they can efficiently implement projects and programs

**[07:22:01.360] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008231)  
and give benefits to the senior citizens faster and on time.

**[07:22:10.120] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008232)  
That's all for the budget of NCSC.

**[07:22:11.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008233)  
Mr. Chair, if I may answer, even if I'm not from NCSC, kasi nandito ho yung representative ng DBM,

**[07:22:17.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008234)  
I'm quite familiar with the issue.

**[07:22:20.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008235)  
Tulad nung nabanggit ko kanina, we need to project kasi properly yung catchment natin o yung physical targets natin.

**[07:22:27.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008236)  
Ang main mandate naman ho ng NCSC at this point in time will be the expanded centenarian.

**[07:22:34.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008237)  
So what's happening from my understanding, kaya ho, minsan kulang yung na-appropriate together with the admin costs.

**[07:22:41.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008238)  
Kasi pag may admin costs naman yan, makakapag-hire sila ng COS nila.

**[07:22:46.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008239)  
And then later on...

**[07:22:47.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008240)  
DBM can also provide the other support services.

**[07:22:50.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008241)  
Eh, yung physical targets kasi pabaliktad, post, mag-a-apply ka muna, susuriin, tsaka natin hihingiin yung pera.

**[07:22:59.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008242)  
Kaya give or take may shortfall.

**[07:23:01.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008243)  
We've already coordinated with NCSC at we're encouraging them to sign a data sharing agreement with PSA

**[07:23:08.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008244)  
para makuha nila yung CBMS kasi napoproject po yun.

**[07:23:12.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008245)  
The 80, 85, 90, 95, and 100, napoproject yun three years in advance.

**[07:23:17.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008246)  
Kasi I would assume, I would like to think the good congressman believes na huwag na natin antayin silang lumapit kundi tayo ang lumapit.

**[07:23:27.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008247)  
So if they have a three-year rolling plan as we recommended, na alam na nila yung kanila mga physical targets,

**[07:23:33.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008248)  
I'm sure Secretary Kim and the DBM family will grant them the necessary subsidies.

**[07:23:39.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008249)  
Together, nakap-embed na doon yung administrative costs for them to be able to hire more contract of service if that's what they need.

**[07:23:47.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008250)  
Hindi lang hudala.

**[07:23:47.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008251)  
Kasi siyempre kung malaki yung subsidy mo, may kaakibat po yan na MOE or admin costs.

**[07:23:55.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008252)  
I think at more than 5%, ang admin costs at more than 5%.

**[07:23:59.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008253)  
So ang punto ko doon, I think we have to look at it from a paradigm na huwag sila nag-a-apply kundi tayo ang gumawa ng three-year rolling plan

**[07:24:06.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008254)  
para naka-forecast na actuarial style ilan ang magiging 80, 85, 90, 95 way, way in advance.

**[07:24:12.740] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008255)  
Yes, yes. Tama po yun.

**[07:24:15.180] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008256)  
Pero ito nga.

**[07:24:17.720] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008257)  
Itong digitalization, kailangan-kailangan po ito para makakuha sila ng mga datas at information sa mga senior citizen na mag-80, 85, 90, 95.

**[07:24:30.060] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008258)  
E zero po ang budget nila dito.

**[07:24:34.080] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008259)  
At saka yun nga po, yung additional, kailangan talaga kasi kokonti po ang empleyado ng NCSC.

**[07:24:41.140] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008260)  
So paano naman sila makapag-implement ng mga projects efficiently?

**[07:24:47.720] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008261)  
Kung kokonti naman sa region, 17 regions, regional ang opisina, kokonti pa yung empleyado, paano sila maka-implement?

**[07:24:58.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008262)  
So yan po, humihingi ng additional budget kasi 314 lang yung na-release, e what is 184 million naman na maidagdag sa NCSC para naman po maka-implement sila ng projects efficiently.

**[07:25:18.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008264)  
Ma'am, Mr. Chair, it would be a disservice kasi nandito yung DBM representative.

**[07:25:23.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008265)  
I think kasi bird's eye view, nandun ho ako from the start till now.

**[07:25:28.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008266)  
So it would be a disservice for me not to advocate kung ano ho yung mga nangyaring usapan ho noon at lalong-lalo na wala dito si Secretary Kim.

**[07:25:36.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008267)  
Let me be the one to explain.

**[07:25:38.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008268)  
Ma'am, hindi ho kailangan ng data because the CBMS has the data already.

**[07:25:42.720] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008269)  
Okay.

**[07:25:43.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008270)  
Yun ho ang ginagamit namin sa 4Ps.

**[07:25:46.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008271)  
Yun ang ginagamit namin sa social data.

**[07:25:47.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008272)  
Yun ang ginagamit namin sa pension.

**[07:25:48.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008273)  
Yun ang ginagamit namin sa lahat ng programa.

**[07:25:51.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008274)  
Nandun na ho ang edad.

**[07:25:52.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008275)  
Nandun na ho ang address.

**[07:25:54.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008276)  
All we have to do is get the list.

**[07:25:56.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008277)  
I-ease filter lang ho natin.

**[07:25:58.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008278)  
Then, pagdating ho sa usapin ng contract of service, hindi na ho natin kailan humingi pa ng karagdagan kasi kung lumaki yung subsidies nila o yung MOE nila na naaayon sa kanilang physical targets, may kaakibat na not more than 5% na administrative cost yun.

**[07:26:13.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008279)  
So that gives them the leg room to be able to hire more contractors.

**[07:26:18.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008281)  
And be able to spend on supplies and all that na para magampanan yung paglapit sa kanilang mga 80, 85, 90, 95 at 100.

**[07:26:29.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008282)  
We can really project that ahead of time as far off as 3 years from now.

**[07:26:34.880] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008283)  
Anong masasabi ninyo, NCSC?

**[07:26:43.950] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008284)  
Chair?

**[07:26:45.430] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008285)  
Good afternoon again.

**[07:26:47.530] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008286)  
What we're using is data from PSA PhilSys, which is complete.

**[07:26:52.490] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008287)  
Unlike...

**[07:26:53.670] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008288)  
Unlike CBMS, there are LGUs that are not included yet in the CBMS because our LGUs who cannot pay for the cost of CBMS cannot be included.

**[07:27:08.870] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008289)  
So yun po ang ginagamit namin, PhilSys.

**[07:27:12.110] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008290)  
We can do that and we are in talks with PSA PhilSys para they can provide us the data that we need.

**[07:27:22.790] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008291)  
Except that when...

**[07:27:23.670] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008292)  
When we met them, they wanted a court order for them to be able to share their data to the NCSC.

**[07:27:29.790] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008293)  
And so, in our meetings with DICT, who is already developing an app for the applications of our senior citizens,

**[07:27:42.890] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008294)  
they have advised us to write the Office of the President so that the PhilSys PSA can actually share their data.

**[07:27:52.790] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008295)  
To the NCSC so that we can actually project the true number of senior citizens who will be benefiting from the cash gift of the ECA program.

**[07:28:09.870] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008296)  
Okay.

**[07:28:10.190] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008297)  
Pero kailangan ma-digitalize kayo ang office ninyo, no?

**[07:28:14.450] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008298)  
Para it will be more efficient na makagather din kayo ng talaga information.

**[07:28:19.750] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008299)  
Kasi may...

**[07:28:22.790] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008305)  
Online registration kayo, di ba?

**[07:28:25.470] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008306)  
So, kailangan din ninyo talaga na ma-upgrade.

**[07:28:29.870] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008307)  
Kong Mila, kailangan-kailangan po.

**[07:28:31.550] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008308)  
Kasi we cannot capture all the data that we need about our senior citizens without, you know, a system that can actually capture these data.

**[07:28:44.610] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008309)  
Ang ginagamit po namin ngayon na senior citizens online registration is what?

**[07:28:51.430] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008310)  
Homegrown.

**[07:28:54.670] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008311)  
Kami-kami lang.

**[07:28:55.970] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008312)  
Sapagkat wala nga po kaming pondo para pondohan yung system na kailangan namin.

**[07:29:00.830] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008313)  
So, for us to be able to be a reliant agency where all the data needed about senior citizens can be derived from, we need that system po.

**[07:29:12.810] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008314)  
Okay.

**[07:29:13.710] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008315)  
At saka ito nga, itong request nyo for vehicles in every region, alam mo na witness ko mismo yan sa Region 1.

**[07:29:21.290] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008316)  
Kasi daga doon ako, na nag-pay-pay out sila, may daladala silang pera, naka-tricycle sila.

**[07:29:28.170] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008317)  
So, hindi bali doon, pinapahiram ko yung service namin doon.

**[07:29:32.050] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008318)  
Pero how about the other regions?

**[07:29:34.170] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008319)  
So, talagang it is very necessary na meron nga kayong, merong service in every region, mas kisaman lang.

**[07:29:41.090] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008320)  
At saka security guard para meron silang kasama pag sila'y nagbabayad ng mga benefits.

**[07:29:49.050] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008321)  
So, 184.

**[07:29:51.290] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008322)  
184 milyon ang kailangan nyong additional.

**[07:29:54.670] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008323)  
Yes po, 111 milyon para po sa transportation costs and the...

**[07:30:00.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008324)  
20, above 20 million for security services po.

**[07:30:05.560] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008325)  
So, Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair, yes, ay Madam Chair, andito pala si Mika.

**[07:30:14.620] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008326)  
Madam Chair, 184 million lang naman ang hinihiling nila na additional para naman po,

**[07:30:23.000] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008327)  
para naman maka, maano nga, efficiently they can implement the programs and projects under the NCSC.

**[07:30:30.700] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008328)  
No, it's napakaliit naman po yun, para, just to give justice to the 12 million senior citizens, no?

**[07:30:39.640] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008329)  
At isa pa pong concern, kasi at saka Negros Island, wala silang, zero, zero ang budget nila.

**[07:30:46.560] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008330)  
So, madagdagan man lang ng 184, 84,000, 84 million.

**[07:30:52.760] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008331)  
Para, para mabigyan din ng budget ang ano.

**[07:30:58.040] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008332)  
Sa kaisa pa, itong LGBTQ office, no, zero po ang, ang budget nila.

**[07:31:06.440] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008333)  
Bakit naman, parang discrimination naman sa mga LGBTQ na marami naman pong mga senior citizens.

**[07:31:13.560] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008334)  
Bakit zero ang budget nila?

**[07:31:17.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008335)  
Ellen has already answered that, but I think she can clarify again.

**[07:31:22.760] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008336)  
Actually, I just want to express our, we are grateful po sa our secretary po of the SWD,

**[07:31:30.380] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008337)  
kasi sila po yung nag-house sa amin and even provided po our MOOE and also the administrative support po,

**[07:31:38.280] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008338)  
as stated po ng Executive Order 51.

**[07:31:41.060] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008339)  
So, yeah, kaya po ma'am, mawala rin po kaming budget because of the timing of my appointment,

**[07:31:47.780] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008340)  
which is September 29 of last year.

**[07:31:50.340] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008341)  
So, when the budget, first budget hearing,

**[07:31:52.760] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008342)  
po, was conducted, hindi po kaya kasi I was by myself,

**[07:31:58.140] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008343)  
limited po yung staff ko, so hindi po kami nakapag-participate.

**[07:32:03.640] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008344)  
It entails a lot of work po and documentations po, so hindi po kami nakaabot.

**[07:32:08.200] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008345)  
That's why po.

**[07:32:09.120] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008346)  
And also, nung nag-propose na po kami for the another hearing, a budget hearing,

**[07:32:15.520] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008347)  
hindi naman po pinayagan ng DBM.

**[07:32:18.100] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008348)  
That's why I'm pleading po na sana po mapagbigyan po kami para po naman,

**[07:32:22.760] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008349)  
magawa namin yung mandate ng EO 51, which is signed non-other by our President Marcos po.

**[07:32:31.400] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008350)  
So, yeah, we want to work na sana according to our mandate.

**[07:32:36.080] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008351)  
So, magkakaroon na kayo ng budget?

**[07:32:40.540] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008352)  
Yun po yung piniplid po namin, nakikiusap po sana kami na sana po mapagbigyan po kami

**[07:32:46.680] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008353)  
so we can function po, our office can really function based po sa mandate, which is policymaking po.

**[07:32:52.760] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008354)  
And maliit lang po yung budget na iniling namin, which is 35 million for 2027,

**[07:32:58.300] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008355)  
and that is in national scope po yan.

**[07:33:01.340] Undersecretary Ellen Pasion** (asr-008356)  
And meron na rin po kaming plan for 2027 on how to use the budget or utilize the budget appropriately po.

**[07:33:11.440] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008357)  
Okay, thank you.

**[07:33:12.680] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008358)  
Sana po we will consider the budget of the LGBTQ.

**[07:33:17.640] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008359)  
Kasi kailangan din naman maasikaso rin sila eh.

**[07:33:22.760] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008360)  
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. That's all. Thank you.

**[07:33:42.140] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008361)  
Thank you, Congresswoman Mila.

**[07:33:44.960] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008362)  
I would like to acknowledge the presence here of our Committee Chair for the Appropriations,

**[07:33:53.380] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008363)  
Chairman, Chairperson Mika Swansing.

**[07:33:57.320] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008364)  
I am turning over the...

**[07:33:59.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008365)  
Thank you very much, Paul.

**[07:34:06.170] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008366)  
Vice Chair Ramanava.

**[07:34:07.670] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008367)  
First of all, I would like to say thank you.

**[07:34:10.230] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008368)  
I would like to express my gratitude, of course, to Vice Chair Ramanava for his exemplary leadership

**[07:34:15.970] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008369)  
in managing today's deliberations for BSWD.

**[07:34:21.570] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008370)  
So far po, you started at 9 a.m. po, di ba?

**[07:34:24.190] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008371)  
So it's already, we're almost close to 8 hours.

**[07:34:28.850] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008372)  
Nagbibidyo.

**[07:34:29.570] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008373)  
Hindi ba po tayo tapos?

**[07:34:31.550] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008374)  
Nagbibidyo na sila po kasi bakit termination na?

**[07:34:34.470] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008375)  
But I just wanted to say,

**[07:34:36.170] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008376)  
thank you po.

**[07:34:36.790] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008377)  
And I would like to thank all the members of the House,

**[07:34:39.870] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008378)  
our colleagues for your active participation in today's hearings.

**[07:34:43.370] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008379)  
Of course, I would like to say thank you to the BSWD family.

**[07:34:46.210] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008380)  
And of course, our, alba, one of the, I would say, best secretaries talaga to work with,

**[07:34:53.750] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008381)  
Secretary Rex Gachalian.

**[07:34:56.290] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008382)  
Thank you.

**[07:34:56.810] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008383)  
Thank you so much po, Sec, for all of your help in our locality.

**[07:35:02.250] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008384)  
So, siguro po, Sec, before we terminate,

**[07:35:04.670] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008385)  
I would just like to ask...

**[07:35:06.170] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008386)  
I would just like to ask a few questions.

**[07:35:08.410] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008387)  
The first one po, sorry, magsisinita po ako ng parokyal concern.

**[07:35:12.830] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008388)  
Very quick lang po.

**[07:35:13.710] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008389)  
Last year po, during the deliberations,

**[07:35:16.090] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008390)  
I raised the concern around the creation of plantilia positions

**[07:35:20.990] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008391)  
or the regularization of the field workers for the different programs.

**[07:35:27.350] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008392)  
For peace po, hindi ganun kalaki yung problema

**[07:35:29.810] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008393)  
because it's a law, it's institutionalized.

**[07:35:32.950] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008394)  
But for AICs and for the other programs po,

**[07:35:36.170] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008395)  
madami po nating mga field workers, mga social workers,

**[07:35:40.490] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008396)  
ay hindi pa social workers kasi hindi pa sila plantilia eh.

**[07:35:42.930] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008397)  
But we have a lot of field workers who have been working with BSWD

**[07:35:47.310] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008398)  
for almost close to 10 years and still they are not yet regularized.

**[07:35:52.230] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008399)  
I would advocate for the workers po in our province.

**[07:35:58.670] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008400)  
This one I raised po under the leadership of RD Vinos, PD Au,

**[07:36:06.010] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008401)  
and...

**[07:36:06.170] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008402)  
As of today po, the plantilia positions which I advocated for last year

**[07:36:13.710] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008403)  
are still not created po.

**[07:36:15.330] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008404)  
So it's already been a year, they're still not regularized.

**[07:36:18.650] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008405)  
So I advocate po ulit, SEC, sana po ma-regularize na sila.

**[07:36:24.630] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008406)  
Anim lang naman po yata sila o balo.

**[07:36:27.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008407)  
Madam Chair, our apologies, pero konting-konti na lang po na pag-aantay.

**[07:36:31.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008408)  
I spoke to Secretary Kim around 400...

**[07:36:36.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008409)  
584 AICS positions are now forthcoming.

**[07:36:40.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008410)  
These are regular positions.

**[07:36:41.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008411)  
And we'll see to it that those deserving employees na napakatagal na

**[07:36:46.210] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008412)  
and hard-performing gets to get their dibs on this.

**[07:36:49.050] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008413)  
Ang nauna ko kasing lumabas yung 5,000 para sa 4P's.

**[07:36:52.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008414)  
And then nasundan ng 16 or 20?

**[07:36:56.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008415)  
90.

**[07:36:57.410] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008416)  
90 sa disaster and then sa social tech around 80 plus.

**[07:37:02.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008417)  
So ito na ho yung next.

**[07:37:04.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008418)  
I was just with him last Friday.

**[07:37:05.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008419)  
And sabi niya, padating na, kumbaga, nandiyan na ho, antay na lang namin.

**[07:37:09.170] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008420)  
And we will see to it that the employees who deserve will get those plantile positions.

**[07:37:13.810] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008421)  
Secrex, maungulit ako up until plenary.

**[07:37:16.410] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008422)  
Because it's already been a year since this was raised.

**[07:37:19.230] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008423)  
I think we saw that even more when we, during our response to the Middle East crisis.

**[07:37:27.010] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008424)  
Even the fuel and the transport allowance, sila na po talaga yung...

**[07:37:33.490] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008425)  
Yeah, bubog sa dati.

**[07:37:35.030] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008426)  
...pliners po talaga natin.

**[07:37:38.130] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008427)  
24-7 po.

**[07:37:39.530] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008428)  
Diba, they were working already all over the country.

**[07:37:42.330] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008429)  
So I'll advocate for them po, Secrex, na sana po magawa.

**[07:37:45.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008430)  
Tama-tama, nandito somewhere si Director Ben Gillette ng DBM na may hawk sa amin.

**[07:37:49.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008431)  
She will make sure, ako na magkocommit, na bibigay niya sa amin yung papel ng regularization ng AICS positions.

**[07:37:56.130] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008432)  
Apo.

**[07:37:57.050] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008433)  
And I hope po when it's...

**[07:37:59.630] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008434)  
Sana po maramdaman din po all across the country.

**[07:38:03.650] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008435)  
Yung creation of the...

**[07:38:04.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008436)  
Unfortunately.

**[07:38:05.030] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008437)  
Malikit pa lang po yung binigay sa amin, 584.

**[07:38:07.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008438)  
But as Secretary Kim said, it's going to be gradual, tuloy-tuloy naman po.

**[07:38:11.670] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008439)  
Okay po.

**[07:38:12.330] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008440)  
I just want to advocate for them, Secrex.

**[07:38:14.430] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008441)  
I know you advocate for your people as well.

**[07:38:16.990] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008442)  
But we'll just put a little bit more pressure on DBM na sabi...

**[07:38:20.410] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008443)  
Sorry po, ata tawagin.

**[07:38:21.730] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008444)  
On the spot po na.

**[07:38:22.550] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008445)  
Si Director Bench ba yan?

**[07:38:23.950] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008446)  
Nandyan, yes.

**[07:38:24.530] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008447)  
Okay, Director Bench, are you on the spot?

**[07:38:26.690] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008448)  
It's been a year.

**[07:38:31.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008449)  
Yan, Director.

**[07:38:32.810] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008450)  
Sorry, Director Bench.

**[07:38:33.910] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008451)  
Sorry, you're on the spot.

**[07:38:35.030] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008452)  
Ako na po kasi sila talaga po yung frontliners natin, eh.

**[07:38:45.370] DBM Director IV Benjieleth M. Zuñiga** (asr-008453)  
We'll have to turn on po, Madam Chair.

**[07:38:47.550] DBM Director IV Benjieleth M. Zuñiga** (asr-008454)  
Actually, tama naman po, Secrex.

**[07:38:49.210] DBM Director IV Benjieleth M. Zuñiga** (asr-008455)  
As discussed po with Secretary Kim po nung Friday, for approval na po siya.

**[07:38:56.190] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008456)  
Actually, ang exact words is, Sec. Kim, di ba?

**[07:38:58.930] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008457)  
Nandyan na, na-approve na, hanapin lang yung papel.

**[07:39:02.870] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008458)  
Pero padating na, di ba?

**[07:39:04.310] DBM Director IV Benjieleth M. Zuñiga** (asr-008459)  
For approval na po niya, may question lang po siya doon sa bureau na nag...

**[07:39:08.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008460)  
Ano?

**[07:39:10.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008461)  
Madam Chair, I will see to it that I call Sec. Kim to remind him so that we get those positions in

**[07:39:16.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008462)  
with a priority na yung mga matatagal na humauna, then follow up the next succeeding position.

**[07:39:22.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008463)  
I just want to point out, to be fair with DBM, wala man sila dito.

**[07:39:26.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008464)  
Ang total na nilabas na nila for 2026 na plantili positions namin is 8,463,

**[07:39:33.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008465)  
of which 5,000 plus went to 4Ps, at the rest nakakalat.

**[07:39:36.810] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008466)  
Itong sa AICS lang may clarification, pero I don't think we have...

**[07:39:40.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008467)  
any disagreement whatsoever.

**[07:39:43.390] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008468)  
Thank you po, Sec. Director Bench.

**[07:39:46.610] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008469)  
Mahungulit lang po talaga kami.

**[07:39:48.410] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008470)  
Because it's been a year since I spoke about it.

**[07:39:54.030] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008471)  
Budgeteering po yun ng DSWD.

**[07:39:56.670] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008472)  
So I'd like to follow up lang po, just to advocate for our frontliners,

**[07:40:02.450] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008473)  
our field personnel who are there every day,

**[07:40:06.110] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008474)  
disbursing, distributing all of the services that DSWD provides.

**[07:40:10.370] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008475)  
So alam naman yun ni Secrex talaga how much I've been making kulit about this over the past year.

**[07:40:17.370] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008476)  
Kasi po, nakita ko po talaga, iba mag-reddit tayo na lang, hindi pa sila na-regularize.

**[07:40:23.410] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008477)  
So hopefully po, 400 plus positions po, Secrex, right?

**[07:40:27.330] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008478)  
That's what we're expecting for 584 positions.

**[07:40:32.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008479)  
Yeah, for AICS in particular.

**[07:40:33.370] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008480)  
Okay. 4Ps done na po. End disaster.

**[07:40:36.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008481)  
First batch po, 5,000 na po yun. May buntot pa ulit na another 5,000.

**[07:40:40.450] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008482)  
Apo. Sige po, Secrex. We'll work together po.

**[07:40:43.810] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008483)  
We'll, mag-ulit po tayo sa DBM to advocate for our frontliners.

**[07:40:50.970] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008484)  
Thank you, Secrex.

**[07:40:52.630] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008485)  
I'll move lang po to, there's a, one of our initiatives in the Committee on Appropriations

**[07:41:01.370] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008486)  
is to put forth some of the questions of the civil society organizations.

**[07:41:06.750] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008487)  
And this morning po, Senior Vice Chair,

**[07:41:10.450] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008488)  
Abbot Garcia, and several of our vice chairpersons in the Committee on Appropriations

**[07:41:14.810] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008489)  
conducted the People's Budget Review.

**[07:41:16.830] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008490)  
So mayroon na pong engagement sa civil society organizations as to what insights they have

**[07:41:22.730] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008491)  
with regard to particular agencies, particular budget items, and the like.

**[07:41:27.230] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008492)  
And similarly po, we also committed to them that we will propound questions on their behalf to the agency.

**[07:41:37.330] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008493)  
So I have here a few.

**[07:41:39.650] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008494)  
A few of the questions.

**[07:41:41.830] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008495)  
And if you would allow me po, Secrex, I'd just like to ask some of their questions po.

**[07:41:47.610] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008496)  
The first would be from Enet with regard to early childhood care and development.

**[07:41:52.850] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008497)  
I believe this was tackled earlier today as well.

**[07:41:56.470] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008498)  
Particularly with regard to the supplementary feeding program of the SWD.

**[07:42:01.270] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008499)  
The question is, DSWD's supplementary feeding declined from 9.564 billion

**[07:42:09.650] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008500)  
in fiscal year 2026 to 6.359 billion in 2027 in the NEP,

**[07:42:16.970] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008501)  
while the target remains 1,899,415 children in CDCs and SNPs.

**[07:42:25.430] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008502)  
Question po, how will the SWD maintain the same beneficiary target

**[07:42:29.910] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008503)  
with roughly 3.2 billion less in funding?

**[07:42:33.830] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008504)  
If you can recall, Madam Chair,

**[07:42:36.350] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008505)  
dinagdagan yung number of days kaya lumaki ho yan eh.

**[07:42:38.770] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008506)  
To synchronize with the target.

**[07:42:39.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008507)  
To synchronize with the DepEd from 120 to 180 days.

**[07:42:42.750] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008508)  
So binalik lang ho sa 120.

**[07:42:44.890] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008509)  
So meaning, same number of beneficiaries, lesser number of days.

**[07:42:48.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008510)  
But we put it in our...

**[07:42:50.610] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008511)  
Nilagay natin, no?

**[07:42:52.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008512)  
But again, we will respect the wisdom of Congress

**[07:42:56.970] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008513)  
if you wish to synchronize it back to 180

**[07:43:00.510] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008514)  
para tugmang-tugma kami with DepEd.

**[07:43:03.610] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008515)  
Thank you, Secrex.

**[07:43:04.950] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008516)  
Actually, that was one of the concerns that was raised by SecSun

**[07:43:09.630] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008517)  
yesterday.

**[07:43:10.570] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008518)  
It's really the cut from...

**[07:43:13.450] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008519)  
The difference essentially from the 2026 GA-A level

**[07:43:16.610] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008520)  
of roughly 26 billion for the school-based feeding program

**[07:43:20.610] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008521)  
down back to the 2026 NEP level of 11 billion.

**[07:43:26.090] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008522)  
So that was one of the discussions yesterday po.

**[07:43:29.750] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008523)  
It will take that into consideration as we look through the budget.

**[07:43:34.490] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008524)  
Pero given the limited fiscal space po,

**[07:43:36.470] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008525)  
we'll do the best that we can.

**[07:43:39.630] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008526)  
They were just asking po, Secrex, as a follow-up question,

**[07:43:43.270] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008527)  
what meal cost, number of feeding days, and nutritional standards

**[07:43:46.650] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008528)  
are assumed under the 6.359 billion allocation?

**[07:43:50.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008529)  
We're still at the 25 pesos per meal cap,

**[07:43:53.310] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008530)  
which is an increase when we joined this administration.

**[07:43:56.690] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008531)  
It was only at maliit lang ngayon, 18 pesos.

**[07:43:59.910] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008532)  
So we're now at 25 pesos.

**[07:44:01.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008533)  
And then milk for the undernourished is at 22 pesos,

**[07:44:05.790] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008534)  
which we get from the Carabao Center.

**[07:44:09.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008535)  
And then 120 days, as mentioned.

**[07:44:12.730] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008536)  
And then the caloric intake is based on the FNRI-approved Pinggang Pinoy.

**[07:44:20.230] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008537)  
Thank you, Secrex.

**[07:44:21.670] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008538)  
And finally po, will any part of the cost be shifted to LGUs, parents, or other sources?

**[07:44:26.750] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008539)  
And how will DSWD prevent inequities between richer and poorer LGUs?

**[07:44:31.710] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008540)  
Again, it's based on enrollment.

**[07:44:34.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008541)  
Once they enter the number of children enrolled in their IS system,

**[07:44:38.670] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008542)  
dun lang naman namin hinipin.

**[07:44:39.630] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008543)  
So the more enrollment, the more you get.

**[07:44:42.570] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008544)  
Obviously, it's an efficient way of doing it.

**[07:44:44.650] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008545)  
Kesa kung mag-a-allocate kami ng fix,

**[07:44:46.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008546)  
pero hindi naman nila natatamaan yung bilang ng studyante na nag-e-enroll.

**[07:44:51.370] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008547)  
But on a separate note,

**[07:44:53.530] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008548)  
if they mean kung ipapass on namin yung cost sa iba, hindi po.

**[07:44:57.590] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008549)  
Pero ang nangyayari ngayon,

**[07:44:59.230] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008550)  
because of the

**[07:45:00.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008551)  
difficulty in central procurement

**[07:45:01.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008552)  
and logistics of handling fresh goods,

**[07:45:04.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008553)  
65%, 55%

**[07:45:06.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008554)  
to 60% of this is downloaded

**[07:45:07.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008555)  
directly to the LGUs that

**[07:45:09.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008556)  
we mandated or encouraged

**[07:45:12.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008557)  
them to use the Sagip Saka Law

**[07:45:14.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008558)  
para diretso ho in procurement sa ating

**[07:45:16.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008559)  
mga magsasaka. So, as much

**[07:45:18.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008560)  
as we can, we empower the local government units

**[07:45:20.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008561)  
kasi they're the ones providing the

**[07:45:22.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008562)  
teachers anyway. And from our

**[07:45:24.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008563)  
experience, LGUs

**[07:45:26.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008564)  
also augment.

**[07:45:27.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008565)  
Kasi hindi naman ho sapat

**[07:45:29.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008566)  
minsan sa maraming LGUs, nagdadagdag pa

**[07:45:32.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008567)  
ng bilang

**[07:45:33.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008568)  
or ng number para

**[07:45:35.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008569)  
tumaas yung unit cost.

**[07:45:37.620] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008570)  
Thank you, Secrex. Those are the questions

**[07:45:39.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008571)  
from ENET pertaining to early

**[07:45:41.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008572)  
childhood care and development.

**[07:45:43.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008573)  
Another

**[07:45:44.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008574)  
CSO po who would like to ask

**[07:45:47.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008575)  
questions would be FSL National

**[07:45:49.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008576)  
Network pertaining to

**[07:45:51.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008577)  
the National Council for Disability

**[07:45:54.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008578)  
Affairs.

**[07:45:54.500] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008579)  
A few questions

**[07:45:56.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008580)  
po. There are two questions.

**[07:45:57.860] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008581)  
If we may direct the question

**[07:46:00.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008582)  
po, Secrex.

**[07:46:00.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008583)  
She will be in a better position to answer.

**[07:46:03.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008584)  
Thank you po. The first question would be

**[07:46:06.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008585)  
please enumerate all prior

**[07:46:08.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008586)  
policies as evidenced

**[07:46:10.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008587)  
by appropriations in 2026

**[07:46:12.220] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008588)  
towards compliance to RA

**[07:46:14.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008589)  
11106 for its

**[07:46:16.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008590)  
six language domains, prospectively

**[07:46:18.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008591)  
in the 2027

**[07:46:20.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008592)  
appropriations.

**[07:46:22.600] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008593)  
With the indulgence

**[07:46:23.920] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008594)  
of Mr. Chair,

**[07:46:25.780] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008595)  
on Friday po meron po kaming meeting

**[07:46:27.700] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008596)  
regarding po the Memorandum

**[07:46:29.460] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008597)  
circular under the UP Law

**[07:46:31.760] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008598)  
Center po regarding the use of the

**[07:46:33.480] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008599)  
FSL on our courts.

**[07:46:35.820] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008600)  
And we also

**[07:46:37.920] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008601)  
are giving

**[07:46:41.020] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008602)  
assistance to any agency

**[07:46:43.100] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008603)  
po na nagre-request po ng

**[07:46:45.340] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008604)  
Filipino Sign Language

**[07:46:47.140] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008605)  
interpretation. And currently

**[07:46:49.540] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008606)  
there's a work

**[07:46:51.880] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008607)  
negotiation going on between

**[07:46:53.780] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008608)  
NCDA, PADI and

**[07:46:56.040] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008609)  
the DSWD Academy

**[07:46:57.700] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008610)  
regarding provision of FSL training to all LGUs.

**[07:47:04.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008611)  
Thank you.

**[07:47:05.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008612)  
And last question, how has the council complied with,

**[07:47:09.260] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008613)  
as evidenced in PS appropriations previously and prospectively for 2027,

**[07:47:15.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008614)  
for the mandate of RA 10524 on quotas for hiring of persons with disabilities,

**[07:47:22.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008615)  
specifically deaf persons?

**[07:47:24.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008616)  
What kinds of positions are these deaf hires?

**[07:47:27.700] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008617)  
Currently, our positions in our local government units,

**[07:47:35.260] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008618)  
we have 97.4% engagement or persons with disability compliance.

**[07:47:43.940] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008619)  
But only 400 are those who have regular positions.

**[07:47:50.060] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008620)  
The rest are focal persons.

**[07:47:54.020] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008621)  
And the NCDA will provide,

**[07:47:56.840] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008622)  
the committee of statistics,

**[07:48:00.660] NCDA Executive Director Glenda D. Relova** (asr-008623)  
who and how many persons are deaf under the PDAU.

**[07:48:13.680] Committee member** (asr-008624)  
Yes, yung submission.

**[07:48:15.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008625)  
Thank you very much.

**[07:48:18.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008626)  
So those are the questions from FSL National Network

**[07:48:22.300] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008627)  
pertaining to the National Council for Disability Affairs.

**[07:48:25.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008628)  
So I hope that clarifies the questions for our CSO partners.

**[07:48:28.700] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008629)  
Again, we would like to reiterate our commitment

**[07:48:32.020] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008630)  
on the part of the Committee on Appropriations to continue,

**[07:48:35.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008631)  
continuously engage with the CSOs by being the bridge to the agencies.

**[07:48:41.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008632)  
Secretary?

**[07:48:41.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008633)  
Just to clarify, the initial submission we had did not contain the discussions that,

**[07:48:46.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008634)  
the items that came about, yes, from the discussion today.

**[07:48:50.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008635)  
No, but because of this discussion again today,

**[07:48:53.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008636)  
there were new items that might land.

**[07:48:55.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008637)  
Yes, there's more, Madam Chair.

**[07:48:58.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008638)  
So we will send it to you.

**[07:49:01.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008639)  
Three or four items.

**[07:49:02.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008640)  
We'll see to it that we submit it.

**[07:49:04.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008641)  
Madam Chair, if I may just be allowed,

**[07:49:05.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008642)  
I know it's post. Para akong nagre-react lastly, but we just got word.

**[07:49:09.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008643)  
I'll go back to Mila kasi it's a very important issue itong sa NCSC.

**[07:49:14.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008644)  
I just can't let it slide.

**[07:49:15.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008645)  
I just want to clarify na ang National ID, as confirmed by the PSA just now,

**[07:49:23.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008646)  
is not the mode to identify.

**[07:49:25.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008647)  
The mode to identify is the CBMS para mahanap natin yung 80, 85, 90, 95, 100.

**[07:49:33.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008648)  
Accordingly, mali po yung notion ng executive director ng NCSC

**[07:49:35.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008649)  
na National ID ho ang gagamitin. Hindi po ang pag-identify; CBMS

**[07:49:43.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008650)  
at kumpleto po yung fields noon: birthday, address, so on and so forth.

**[07:49:48.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008651)  
Ang National ID gagamitin lamang po yan para i-validate kung yung taong yun ay sinasabi niya,

**[07:49:55.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008652)  
ako si Rex Gatchalian.

**[07:49:56.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008653)  
Ako ba talaga si Rex Gatchalian?

**[07:49:58.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008654)  
Parang nabaliktad nila ho ata.

**[07:50:00.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008655)  
Number two, a simple data sharing agreement between them,

**[07:50:04.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008656)  
NCSC,

**[07:50:06.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008660)  
And PSA will be suffice.

**[07:50:07.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008661)  
You don't need a court order to do that.

**[07:50:10.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008662)  
Among government agencies, that will only cause more delay.

**[07:50:13.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008663)  
Habang nag-aantay na ho kayo na kailangan mabigyan po lahat ng mga 80, 85, 90, 95, 100.

**[07:50:20.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008664)  
Uulitin ko po.

**[07:50:22.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008665)  
You can anticipate sino magba-birthday ng 80, 85 as far as three years down the road.

**[07:50:28.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008666)  
We need to help DBM.

**[07:50:29.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008667)  
Kasi wala yung DBM dito na parang sila yung may kasalanan eh.

**[07:50:33.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008668)  
You need to help DBM.

**[07:50:35.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008669)  
You need to help DBM identify, and CBMS may not be the perfect list, but it gives you some type of confidence level.

**[07:50:43.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008670)  
Parang actuarial yan eh.

**[07:50:44.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008671)  
Para ma-identify na natin ahead of time.

**[07:50:47.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008672)  
Plus, on demand from the local OSCA offices,

**[07:50:51.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008673)  
that you can cross-check between their birth and their death certificates or registries.

**[07:50:56.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008674)  
Hindi naman ho kailangan komplikado, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair.

**[07:51:00.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008675)  
Hindi ho kailangan maging komplikado ho ito.

**[07:51:02.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008676)  
Pinasa na namin yung sistema.

**[07:51:05.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008677)  
And I would highly encourage NCSC to look into that.

**[07:51:09.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008678)  
Kasi like you said, ang nagsu-suffer ho yung mga matatanda,

**[07:51:12.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008679)  
and at the same time hihingi na naman tayo ulit ng pera sa DBM.

**[07:51:16.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008680)  
We're in the regime of a very tight fiscal space.

**[07:51:18.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008681)  
And we're trying to streamline and optimize.

**[07:51:21.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008682)  
Nandoon ho kasi ako sa diskusyon tungkol ho dito since Secretary Mina till now.

**[07:51:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008683)  
Kaya hindi ko puwedeng palagpasin yung sinasabi nila na kailangan ng court order, kailangan ng National ID.

**[07:51:31.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008684)  
I think they really have to talk to PSA kasi yung PSA nagre-react

**[07:51:35.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008685)  
at dinadala ngayon yung sagot sa amin

**[07:51:37.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008686)  
na tama yung notion ho namin.

**[07:51:38.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008687)  
I just don't want to let the commission, the committee, end its hearing.

**[07:51:42.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008688)  
At yun ang nakalagay sa minutes.

**[07:51:44.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008689)  
I dispute every single fact raised by the Executive Director of NCSC.

**[07:51:48.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008690)  
And if DSWD had its way in doing this, there's a more organized, systematic way of doing it.

**[07:51:55.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008691)  
It may not be perfect.

**[07:51:56.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008692)  
Wala namang ahensyang perfect.

**[07:51:57.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008693)  
But it gives you a higher confidence level than by application.

**[07:52:01.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008694)  
Parang kung sino ang may access sa computer, sila mag-a-apply.

**[07:52:04.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008695)  
Tapos yun lang ang susuriin natin.

**[07:52:05.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008696)  
That's what we're trying to do.

**[07:52:08.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008697)  
Thank you, Secrex.

**[07:52:10.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008698)  
I think we really need to develop that system that you already have a form.

**[07:52:15.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008699)  
I think this is a similar issue to the free higher education.

**[07:52:19.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008700)  
It's a bit of a far analogy, but it's really an issue in terms of yung forecasting.

**[07:52:26.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008701)  
They're unable to get it right in terms of the system.

**[07:52:30.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008702)  
Hindi po makapag-align at the moment yung CHED, yung PASUC at saka yung DBM

**[07:52:37.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008703)  
With regard to the estimated number of enrollees for the following year.

**[07:52:41.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008704)  
So every year, nagbaliktad naman yung problema nila, Secrex.

**[07:52:45.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008705)  
Sa distribution po doon sa octogenarian award, ang nangyayari po delay.

**[07:52:52.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008706)  
Doon naman po sa FHE, free higher education, ang nangyayari nag-a-accrue lang, nag-a-accumulate lang yung deficiency between the gap nung estimated number of enrollees

**[07:53:07.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008707)  
versus the actual number of enrollees.

**[07:53:09.540] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008708)  
Umabot pa nga po sa point na across five years, Php12 billion yung na-accrue na deficit.

**[07:53:18.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008709)  
So it's really, I think there has to be a system po. I agree with Sec Rex.

**[07:53:24.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008710)  
And I think before the next budget season, sana maayos na.

**[07:53:28.340] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008711)  
Kasi yung sa FHE po naayos nila between last year and this year's budget season.

**[07:53:34.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008712)  
Pero yun po kasi nangyayari.

**[07:53:35.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008713)  
I recognize the problem.

**[07:53:37.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008714)  
Na ang nangyayari, nade-delay yung distribution po.

**[07:53:41.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008715)  
So, as Secrex was saying, kaya naman because the PSA has a database.

**[07:53:48.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008716)  
In fact, we gave them this system of forecasting in advance with a higher confidence level.

**[07:53:54.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008717)  
Syempre give or take. Meron hong kasamang palad, papanaw.

**[07:53:58.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008718)  
Pero wala naman ho madadagdag na doon, more or less,

**[07:54:01.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008719)  
kasi alam mo na naman sino mag-80, 85, 90, 95, 100.

**[07:54:05.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008720)  
Madam Chair, Mr. Chairman.

**[07:54:07.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008721)  
I have to keep on repeating this.

**[07:54:09.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008722)  
Mag-a-accrue ito nang mag-a-accrue.

**[07:54:10.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008723)  
As mentioned by the executive director kanina, may backlog na.

**[07:54:14.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008724)  
Tapos magba-backlog ulit.

**[07:54:15.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008725)  
Tapos magba-backlog ulit.

**[07:54:17.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008726)  
Baka ho mag-accrue nang mag-accrue yung mga IOUs till pumanaw na yung iba at hindi matanggap.

**[07:54:21.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008727)  
I may sound like we're pointing fingers, but ang point ko ho is help.

**[07:54:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008728)  
We already gave them the system, the process.

**[07:54:29.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008729)  
And I think DBM will agree with that.

**[07:54:31.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008730)  
Sana lang ho tingnan nila kasi the answers of the executive director kanina

**[07:54:35.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008731)  
was really way off.

**[07:54:36.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008732)  
kaya yung PSA sumagot na sa amin at pinapasagutin daw namin nang maayos.

**[07:54:44.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008733)  
May I then call the ED of NCSC?

**[07:54:50.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008734)  
Na-release na po ni Sec Rex.

**[07:54:53.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008735)  
And I think that's a very valid point.

**[07:54:55.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008736)  
There's a way for us to be able to forecast it.

**[07:54:57.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008737)  
There's the PSA who seems to be willing to help to develop the system.

**[07:55:03.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008738)  
Have you engaged with the PSA?

**[07:55:06.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008739)  
And have you looked at the forecasting model as suggested by Secrex?

**[07:55:10.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008740)  
Yes, we have met with PSA and that's what they said.

**[07:55:16.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008741)  
And that's what I said a few minutes ago.

**[07:55:19.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008742)  
So we can talk and discuss about this, what they're saying about the forecasting.

**[07:55:25.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008743)  
Because I think if we are able to get the data from the PhilSys PSA,

**[07:55:30.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008744)  
we can also do the forecasting.

**[07:55:32.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008745)  
So ngayon po, can we assume that in the future,

**[07:55:36.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008746)  
in the 2027 budget, hindi pa accurate yung number na nabudgetan ninyo?

**[07:55:42.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008747)  
Given that you still haven't done the study on this forecasting model?

**[07:55:47.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008748)  
The numbers that we have given for the 2027 NEP came from the numbers of PSA.

**[07:55:59.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-008749)  
PSA?

**[07:56:00.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008750)  
PSA na census po yon.

**[07:56:02.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008751)  
So should be, Sec Rex?

**[07:56:04.110] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008751-split-2)  
Ayoko na ho.

**[07:56:04.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008752)  
Ayoko na ho makipag-back and forth kasi mahaba na ho.

**[07:56:07.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008753)  
A couple of things.

**[07:56:09.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008754)  
The PhilSys is coded.

**[07:56:11.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008755)  
So hindi mo talaga makukuha yung PhilSys ng lahat ng mamamayan.

**[07:56:14.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008756)  
Hindi talaga ibibigay sa iyo yun.

**[07:56:16.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008757)  
Pero yung CBMS, that law has a very clear escape mechanism.

**[07:56:22.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008758)  
Pag social protection, lahat kami dapat doon humahango.

**[07:56:26.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008759)  
Puwedeng ibigay yun with a simple data sharing agreement.

**[07:56:30.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008760)  
Iniwan na ho namin yan bago namin tinurnover.

**[07:56:33.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008761)  
Nakiusap kami na yun ang gamitin.

**[07:56:35.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008762)  
Pero parang hihingin mo yung buong PhilSys database.

**[07:56:40.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008763)  
Hindi ho talaga ibibigay yun because nandoon yung mga codes natin lahat as individual citizens.

**[07:56:46.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008764)  
Again, we can have a discussion separately, pagpatawag ho kami ng Kongreso,

**[07:56:51.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008765)  
but the budgeting kasi is getting affected by this.

**[07:56:54.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008766)  
Parang it's turning into a habol nang habol every year

**[07:56:58.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008767)  
kasi post eh.

**[07:57:00.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008768)  
Mag-a-apply sila online,

**[07:57:02.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008769)  
katulad doon ng kaso natin sa Pampanga na kami ho ang hinabol ng mga tao.

**[07:57:06.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008770)  
Nasa bundok sila, mga Aeta ho sila,

**[07:57:09.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008771)  
natural hindi sila makakapag-apply.

**[07:57:11.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008772)  
At walang technical know-how yung mga yun.

**[07:57:13.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008773)  
Pero if we just project na nandun sila,

**[07:57:16.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008774)  
because sa CBMS, again, it's not perfect, but it gives you a stronger confidence level.

**[07:57:21.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008775)  
Then we can just go to them, validate it physically.

**[07:57:24.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008776)  
Para ho meron tayong some type of a closer estimate kung ilan ho sila.

**[07:57:30.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008777)  
Thank you, Secrex.

**[07:57:32.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008778)  
Kong Mila, being the chairperson of the Committee on Senior Citizens,

**[07:57:38.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008779)  
maybe this is something that you can also facilitate.

**[07:57:41.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008780)  
A discussion with all the agencies involved to fine-tune this forecasting system.

**[07:57:49.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008781)  
Just so in the next budget cycle, or even baka po makahabol pa before the end of this budget cycle, maayos na natin

**[07:57:56.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008782)  
para po hindi, as Secrex was saying and as I was saying,

**[07:58:00.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008783)  
mag-accrue lahat po ng

**[07:58:02.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008784)  
hindi pa nire-release,

**[07:58:04.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008785)  
lahat po ng delay sa releases.

**[07:58:06.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008786)  
So, thank you, Secrex.

**[07:58:08.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008787)  
I'll move to the next.

**[07:58:10.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008788)  
If I may ask a few questions on some of the items that have been raised

**[07:58:15.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008789)  
for consideration of the BARC for additional funding for DSWD.

**[07:58:22.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008790)  
The others po, we've done it last year naman yung mga change in PAP names and the like.

**[07:58:30.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008791)  
So, Secrex, the first one that I wanted to highlight,

**[07:58:34.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008792)  
the reversion ng QRF to its fiscal year 2026 level of Php3 billion.

**[07:58:41.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008793)  
I support you completely on that.

**[07:58:43.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008794)  
So, it's really just very practical to do that.

**[07:58:47.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008795)  
Just so you don't have to liquidate every single time.

**[07:58:50.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008796)  
So, we support you on that.

**[07:58:52.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008797)  
I will advocate for that during the BARC kasi

**[07:58:56.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008798)  
naramdaman ninyo po ba, Secrex,

**[07:58:57.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008799)  
malaki talaga yung diperensya nung tinaas na natin sa 3 billion?

**[07:59:00.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008800)  
Yes, Madam Chair.

**[07:59:01.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008801)  
In fact, we're very grateful, as mentioned a while ago.

**[07:59:03.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008802)  
Kasi ngayon yung kalamidad ranges from the north all the way to the south.

**[07:59:06.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008803)  
So sabay-sabay, multi-region, 1.2 billion may sound big,

**[07:59:10.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008804)  
pero pagka ipaghahati-hati mo yun between procuring food, getting logistics and emergency cash transfer,

**[07:59:18.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008805)  
kulang na kulang yun.

**[07:59:19.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008806)  
Pero mabilis ho ang DBM.

**[07:59:21.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008807)  
Undersecretary Kim and former Secretary Mina, 5 days.

**[07:59:24.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008808)  
Pero five days, three to five days pa rin yun

**[07:59:27.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008809)  
while itong 3 billion nase-stretch

**[07:59:29.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008810)  
namin yun bago kami mag-reimburse.

**[07:59:31.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008811)  
So, much appreciated that you see it from our point of view.

**[07:59:34.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008812)  
Thank you, Secrex.

**[07:59:35.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008813)  
Again, our full support with regard to that.

**[07:59:38.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008814)  
We and Kong Raman will advocate for it in the BARC.

**[07:59:41.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008815)  
The next would be social pension for indigent senior citizens.

**[07:59:47.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008816)  
So, this 6.8 billion is on top of what's already there in the NEP.

**[07:59:52.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008817)  
How is it in comparison to the 2026 GAA?

**[07:59:55.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008818)  
The 2026 GAA is very close, slightly above

**[08:00:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008819)  
lang from the NEP right now by five hundred maliit lang yung discrepancy nila kasi ang

**[08:00:09.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008820)  
binagdag lang around three hundred thousand beneficiaries but alam natin mas malaki yung

**[08:00:13.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008821)  
catchment dapat so this is really on top of what we're of where we're getting to cover more senior

**[08:00:20.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008822)  
citizen for the social pension thank you thank you Secrex well we'll take note of this as well

**[08:00:26.420] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008823)  
um next would be the sigurpo um in the interest of time but this is something that also Secrex

**[08:00:34.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008824)  
raised earlier today the one billion for SLP so um I believe you you laid it out very well as to

**[08:00:41.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008825)  
how many beneficiaries would stand to um lose their benefits or not not not avail of it rather

**[08:00:48.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008826)  
if hindi po natin mapondohan to so we'll take this into consideration as well Secrex and

**[08:00:53.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008827)  
finally po I think the biggest hinuliko

**[08:00:56.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008828)  
because it's the biggest um request um here is an additional 43.1 billion pesos for the assistance

**[08:01:04.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008829)  
to individuals in crisis situations um AICs um because as we know ang laki po talaga nung binaba

**[08:01:11.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008830)  
noong um level ng AICs mula po sa 2026 ga ah um as compared to the NEP level currently at 33

**[08:01:18.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008831)  
billion um Secrex you really laid it out very well um in in in the slide you presented earlier

**[08:01:26.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008832)  
as to how critical a role um AICs played um this past year especially um in terms of responding

**[08:01:34.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008833)  
to the crisis um that we did not anticipate of course um the middle east crisis all of the

**[08:01:41.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008834)  
um disasters all of the climate um related um challenges that have have um that has happened

**[08:01:50.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008835)  
in the last year so Sigur Secrex if I may po may I request you to just highlight the

**[08:01:56.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008836)  
that Sigur as as a way to just um uh end the discussion today um may I request you to again

**[08:02:03.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008837)  
uh present that slide um showing the Sigur essentially um explaining to us the need for

**[08:02:10.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008838)  
the 43.1 billion additional and I'm sure full disclosure uh the uh NEP value versus the 2026

**[08:02:18.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008839)  
GAA is short by 30 billion, not 48. We just put 48 kasi we saw the unexpected utilization this year

**[08:02:26.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008840)  
ng energy emergency. So if you can look at 2025, ang amount natin na allotment was 44 billion,

**[08:02:33.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008841)  
and we still got another 14 billion from the UA. And you can imagine that we served around 9.4

**[08:02:41.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008842)  
million thereabouts. And then noong 2025,

**[08:02:47.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008843)  
noong itinaas po ninyo ang value to 63 billion, we were able to serve again a target of 8.715 million.

**[08:02:57.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008844)  
At this point in time, 70 percent is already fully utilized, faster than what we thought, because 10 billion,

**[08:03:02.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008845)  
close to 10 billion, 9 billion went to the energy emergency this summer.

**[08:03:09.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008846)  
At patuloy ho tayong kumukuha diyan ngayon because of the various state of calamities across the country.

**[08:03:15.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008847)  
Now, just to do the simplistic math, if you look at 2027

**[08:03:19.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008848)  
at manatili tayo sa 33 billion, at hindi ninyo kami ibabalik sa NEP level man lang,

**[08:03:26.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008849)  
we stand to lose around, we stand to turn away around 4,085,631 real people with real

**[08:03:35.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008850)  
crisis na sasabihin namin, pagpasensyahan niyo na po, pero hindi na available ang social welfare. I think

**[08:03:42.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008851)  
we'll be doing everybody a disservice by not advocating for this as an institutional amendment

**[08:03:47.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008852)  
or request that we are pushing for.

**[08:03:50.380] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008852-split-2)  
Thank you, Secrex. Just wanted to ask a little bit more on

**[08:03:53.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008853)  
the 2026 figures the 63.4 billion as you said has been 70 percent utilized as of now but that

**[08:04:01.660] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008854)  
does that already include the additional funding that would emanate from uplift or

**[08:04:07.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008855)  
iba pa po yan?

**[08:04:07.878] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008855-split-2)  
Wala pa ho, wala pa ho. Yun straight out lang and to include the first round of transport assistance, the 10 billion. But even

**[08:04:15.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008856)  
that was projected initially to cover our regular AICS requirements. So kaya nga kami nagpapa-augment

**[08:04:22.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008857)  
kasi kailan ibabalik

**[08:04:23.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008858)  
sa

**[08:04:23.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008859)  
amin yun. Dahil kung hindi, kakapusin naman ho yung departamento. Doon lang nga kung titingnan n'yo lang yung 63, short na nga ho tayo kaya kami nagpapa-augment kasi we took around 9 billion to 10 billion to supply the transport workers last summer. So very understanding naman ho ang DBM and they are already finding mechanisms to augment us for September, October, November, December.

**[08:04:47.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008859-split-2)  
So, Secrex, looking at the 2026 expenditure and the needs for

**[08:04:53.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008860)  
AICS by the end of this year po, what would be the full year need for AICS? Kasi you have the 63 billion that's there in the GAA plus yung 10 billion na expend for the transport allowance subsidy. So is it safe to assume, just from looking at that, roughly 70 billion po yung utilization na AICS for this year?

**[08:05:20.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008860-split-2)  
Yes, 75 thereabouts. 70 to 75. But

**[08:05:23.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008861)  
wag naman ho sana pero hindi pa tapos yung taon and these next months will be the challenging months because of the impending El Nino the recovery ng earthquake the recovery ng bagyo ng habagat pati na rin ho yung RSSI sa Negros Island regions so talagang we're stretching it thin to be honest

**[08:05:42.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008862)  
thank you secrex so the 75 billion kaya po siya yung 33 billion plus the 43 billion requested lands you somewhere in the into the 75 billion

**[08:05:52.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008863)  
as uh

**[08:05:53.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008864)  
based on the historical need for for 2000 utilization utilization rather thank you thank you secrex um yun po kasi yung biggest line item in the request so I wanted to to um ask a little bit more on that so um secrex as you mentioned there are three to four uh major items still that you haven't uh captured in this request um may we know po by when you would be able to give it would it be possible to have it by tomorrow

**[08:06:23.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008865)  
They're typing it up

**[08:06:23.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008866)  
right now

**[08:06:24.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008867)  
and I will be furnishing the committee as early as tonight.

**[08:06:28.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008867-split-2)  
Okay, so I was going to say 12 noon tomorrow but if you could give it to us by...

**[08:06:32.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008867-split-3)  
Maagap po ng ano? Panalo ang maagap kesa yung masipag eh. Daig ng maagap yung masipag. So maagap po kami.

**[08:06:39.980] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008868)  
Thank you, Secrex,

**[08:06:41.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008869)  
because we're hoping to convene the Bar C soon at the soonest possible time.

**[08:06:45.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008870)  
So for us to be able to take all of these into consideration for the deliberation of the Bar C,

**[08:06:50.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008871)  
we'll request

**[08:06:51.460] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008872)  
po.

**[08:06:52.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008875)  
But if we have it by tonight, perfect po, Secrex, kasi the deadline actually for even the other departments

**[08:06:58.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008876)  
that were deliberated on this week is tomorrow lunchtime. But we'll wait for that po, Secrex.

**[08:07:05.640] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008877)  
I think that's it. Um, Madam Chair, how about an additional funding for Home for the Aged?

**[08:07:12.360] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008878)  
Kasi apat po yung Home for the Aged nila eh. Ang dami-dami na pong abandoned and homeless senior citizens ngayon because maybe due to hardship of life, pina-abandona na yung mga senior citizen ng mga anak. So kailangan po yung mapuntahan nila. So maybe we can have additional funding for Home for the Aged

**[08:07:36.360] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008879)  
para makapagpatayo pa ho tayo, o kaya yung arrangement po sa mga private home cares, puwede rin po yun. So baka po puwedeng magka-additional funding tayo for that.

**[08:07:53.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008880)  
Madam Chair, we thought of a creative way last year with your help, a PPP style wherein huwag na tayong magtayo, mag-refer na lang tayo sa mga accredited. Nandiyan na rin ho sa listahan yung cost of care provision.

**[08:08:07.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008881)  
It's here po, Kong Mila. I'll show it to you.

**[08:08:12.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008882)  
But essentially what we're doing is within the current funding that's available to DSWD,

**[08:08:18.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008883)  
mayroon na pong ganong modality wherein there's an arrangement with private providers. And then yun na lang po, gamit na yung existing resources ng DSWD.

**[08:08:29.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008884)  
So we've already, we started that last year and we'll make sure we still

**[08:08:34.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008885)  
have that modality for 2027.

**[08:08:36.780] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008885-split-2)  
Thank you po. I think that's it. It's been, how many hours has it been? It's been

**[08:08:42.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008886)  
close to nine hours since the start of the deliberations of DSWD. I think po, given

**[08:08:48.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008887)  
all of the interpellations raised by our colleagues today, I think more of

**[08:08:57.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008888)  
commendation po eh. I was gonna, Cong. Rahman actually put the words perfectly. It's really

**[08:09:04.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008889)  
a commendation from our colleagues from all over the country. We wanted to thank the DSWD family

**[08:09:12.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008890)  
for all the help that you have been extending to our constituents um all over the country

**[08:09:18.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008891)  
Kayo po yung kasama namin

**[08:09:20.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008892)  
lagi na unang rumeresponde

**[08:09:22.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008893)  
kapag meron pong nangyayari,

**[08:09:24.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008894)  
[unclear] o kung ano mang crisis.

**[08:09:26.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008895)  
Kayo po yung kasama

**[08:09:28.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008896)  
namin. Kaya, Sec,

**[08:09:30.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008897)  
siguro, it may have

**[08:09:32.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008898)  
been a long deliberation but it's

**[08:09:34.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008899)  
really our opportunity

**[08:09:36.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008900)  
on the part of the House to say thank

**[08:09:38.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008901)  
you to the DSWD and to

**[08:09:40.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008902)  
commend all of you

**[08:09:42.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008903)  
for all the hard work and all the great things that you are doing for our countrymen. So

**[08:09:48.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008904)  
maraming maraming salamat po on behalf of our colleagues here today in the House. Maraming salamat po

**[08:09:54.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008905)  
to Secrex and to the DSWD family for all that you're doing for our countrymen. Maraming maraming salamat po, DSWD.

**[08:09:59.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-008905-split-2)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair.

**[08:10:03.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008906)  
That's it po, I think. With that po, may I solicit a motion from the body

**[08:10:12.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008907)  
or

**[08:10:14.180] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008907-split-2)  
would you like to, ano, preside?

**[08:10:19.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008907-split-3)  
I'll

**[08:10:20.360] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-008908)  
yield back the floor to Vice Chair Rahman Nava to end today's deliberations.

**[08:10:32.740] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008909)  
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. May I now hear a motion to terminate the

**[08:10:39.620] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008910)  
hearing, or the budget hearing, for the Department of Social Welfare and Development?

**[08:10:45.060] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008911)  
Mr. Chair,

**[08:10:46.420] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008912)  
I move that the committee terminate its hearing on the proposed

**[08:10:50.420] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008913)  
fiscal year 2027 budget of the Department of Social Welfare and Development,

**[08:10:57.220] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008914)  
including its attached agencies under House Bill No. 10858. I so move.

**[08:11:03.760] Rep. Milagros "Mila" Aquino-Magsaysay** (asr-008914-split-2)  
Second the motion, Mr. Chair.

**[08:11:07.100] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008915)  
It has been moved and duly seconded to terminate the hearing on the proposed fiscal year 2027

**[08:11:13.940] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008916)  
budget of the Department of Social Welfare and Development,

**[08:11:17.140] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008917)  
including its attached agencies. Is there any objection?

**[08:11:21.860] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008918)  
The Chair hears none. The motion is approved.

**[08:11:31.110] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008919)  
Thank you, Your Honors, and our colleagues from the Department of Social

**[08:11:37.510] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008920)  
Welfare and Development for your valuable participation in today's budget hearing.

**[08:11:42.950] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008921)  
We likewise thank the members of the committee for their active participation.

**[08:11:48.150] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008922)  
Mr. Chair, I move to

**[08:11:50.390] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008923)  
suspend the hearing for the fiscal year 2027

**[08:11:57.350] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008924)  
of the Department of Social Welfare and Development, including its attached agencies,

**[08:12:04.390] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008925)  
and, uh,

**[08:12:05.530] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-008925-split-2)  
at tomorrow 9:00 a.m.

**[08:12:07.440] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008925-split-3)  
At tomorrow at 9:00 a.m.

**[08:12:09.470] Committee Secretary** (asr-008925-split-4)  
Sir, nawala na po. Basahin niyo na, sir, yung

**[08:12:12.680] Committee Secretary** (asr-008925-split-5)  
'I move the proceedings of the committee.'

**[08:12:14.390] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008926)  
I move that the proceedings of the committee here at Romualdez Hall be suspended without prejudice to the

**[08:12:19.830] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-008927)  
continuation of the committee's concurrent budget hearing at Nograles Hall. I so move.

**[08:12:24.950] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-008928)  
I second the motion, Mr. Chair.

**[08:12:27.360] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008928-split-2)  
It has been moved and duly seconded to suspend the proceedings of

**[08:12:32.070] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008929)  
the committee here at Romualdez Hall without prejudice to the continuation of the committee's

**[08:12:37.830] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008930)  
concurrent budget hearing at Nograles Hall. Is there any objection? The Chair hears none. The

**[08:12:43.830] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008931)  
motion is approved. The proceedings of the committee here at Romualdez Hall are hereby suspended.

**[08:12:49.830] Rep. JC Rahman A. Nava, M.D.** (asr-008932)  
The committee's concurrent budget hearing at Tograles Hall shall continue.