# House Committee on Appropriations: PAGCOR - August 24, 2026

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**[00:27:00.679] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000003)  
good morning everyone the budget briefing is resumed please rise for the singing of the

**[00:27:07.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000004)  
national anthem and please remain standing for a minute of silent prayer.

**[00:28:55.118] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000004-split-3)  
Thank you, everyone.

**[00:28:56.630] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000005)  
You may take your seats. Committee secretary, please acknowledge the members and resource persons present in today's briefing

**[00:29:05.399] Committee Secretary** (asr-000006)  
good morning thank you madam chairperson may we acknowledge the

**[00:29:10.950] Committee Secretary** (asr-000007)  
following members: former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo; Chair Mikaela Angela Suansing;

**[00:29:19.509] Committee Secretary** (asr-000008)  
deputy vice chair Julienne "Jam" Baronda representative Adrian Salceda representative

**[00:29:24.590] Committee Secretary** (asr-000009)  
Elijah San Fernando representative Salvador Pleyto vice chair Jose Alvarez vice chair

**[00:29:29.332] Committee Secretary** (asr-000010)  
agustina dominique pancho representative Eulogio Rodriguez vice chair Monique Yazmin Maria

**[00:29:37.981] Committee Secretary** (asr-000011)  
vice chair

**[00:29:40.580] Committee Secretary** (asr-000012)  
seftan representative john attorney jp padernos represented mauricio domogan

**[00:29:47.971] Committee Secretary** (asr-000013)  
representative sarah elago representative presley de jesus representative ferdinand

**[00:29:53.624] Committee Secretary** (asr-000014)  
Representative Ferdinand Beltran, Representative Iris Marie Montes, Representative Dante S. Garcia,

**[00:29:58.771] Committee Secretary** (asr-000015)  
Representative Maria Isabel Sagarbarria, Representative Marie Bernadette Escudero, Representative Arlyn Ayon, Representative Ricardo Cruz, Jr., and Vice Chair Romeo Momo.

**[00:30:12.237] Committee Secretary** (asr-000016)  
May we also acknowledge our guests from the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation, headed by Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco.

**[00:30:21.316] Committee Secretary** (asr-000017)  
Good morning, sir.

**[00:30:23.476] Committee Secretary** (asr-000018)  
Vice President Attorney Naealla Bainto-Aguinaldo.

**[00:30:26.142] Committee Secretary** (asr-000019)  
Good morning.

**[00:30:29.365] Committee Secretary** (asr-000020)  
Vice President Angelito Domingo.

**[00:30:30.665] Committee Secretary** (asr-000021)  
Vice President Sharon S.J. Quintanilla.

**[00:30:33.854] Committee Secretary** (asr-000022)  
Assistant Vice President Attorney Jessa Maris Fernandez.

**[00:30:39.406] Committee Secretary** (asr-000023)  
Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl de Guia.

**[00:30:42.815] Committee Secretary** (asr-000024)  
Assistant Vice President Catalino Alano.

**[00:30:47.708] Committee Secretary** (asr-000025)  
Assistant Vice President Eric Balcos.

**[00:30:51.522] Committee Secretary** (asr-000026)  
Good morning.

**[00:30:52.366] Committee Secretary** (asr-000027)  
And may also acknowledge the additional members.

**[00:30:58.542] Committee Secretary** (asr-000028)  
Present today, Representative Isidro Lumayag, Vice Chair Brian Poe, Vice Chair Josefina Tallado, and Vice Chair Jasneel Babayap.

**[00:31:04.853] Committee Secretary** (asr-000029)  
That's all, Madam Chair.

**[00:31:09.663] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000030)  
Thank you very much, ComSec.

**[00:31:12.667] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000031)  
To our distinguished colleagues, to our former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, to PAGCOR officials headed by Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco,

**[00:31:24.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000032)  
and our resource persons, good morning.

**[00:31:30.389] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000033)  
I'd like to, first of all, say thank you to our PAGCOR officials, to Chairman Alejandro H. Tengco for being flexible with the rescheduling.

**[00:31:40.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000034)  
The hearing for PAGCOR and PCSO were supposed to be last Tuesday, but in light of the inclement weather, we had to move it to Monday.

**[00:31:48.269] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000035)  
So thank you, Chair Al, and to the PAGCOR officials for your flexibility and for making time for today's briefing.

**[00:31:56.279] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000036)  
Today's hearing will review PAGCOR's budget performance and its continuing contribution to the national government.

**[00:32:00.590] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000037)  
contribution to the national government through taxes, dividends, and contributions to nation

**[00:32:08.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000038)  
building. For fiscal year 2026, PAGCOR's income and net income are projected to be lower than

**[00:32:15.610] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000039)  
the assumptions underlying its approved corporate operating budget. The committee would like to seek

**[00:32:21.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000040)  
clarification on the reasons for these downward revisions, and we would also like to request for

**[00:32:27.389] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000041)  
an update on the implementation of capital projects, as well as status of remittances to

**[00:32:37.470] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000042)  
the Philippine Sports Commission. For fiscal year 2027, we expect a realistic and sustainable budget

**[00:32:43.419] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000043)  
that safeguards government revenues, improves project implementation, and strengthens the

**[00:32:47.029] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000044)  
regulation of gambling, whether online or otherwise. At the end of this briefing, we hope to better

**[00:32:52.909] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000045)  
understand how PAGCOR can remain a reliable

**[00:32:55.789] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000046)  
source of government funds while responsibly addressing the social effects of gambling.

**[00:33:02.720] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000047)  
With that, may I now respectfully request the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of PAGCOR,

**[00:33:09.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000048)  
the Honorable Alejandro H. Tengco, to proceed with the presentation on behalf of PAGCOR.

**[00:33:17.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000049)  
Thank you very much, Chairperson Mika Suansing, and magandang umaga po sa lahat ng miyembro ng

**[00:33:26.629] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000050)  
Committee on Appropriations. Former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, good morning. To all the members—well,

**[00:33:40.549] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000051)  
thank you, too, for rescheduling us today. Unfortunately, we had the very bad weather past week and a half,

**[00:33:49.310] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000052)  
so I know we were postponed. And we made sure that the scheduled hearing, the meeting, and the hearing were limited,

**[00:33:54.860] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000053)  
so we are glad to be here today. I want to thank all our staff and the committee for their help. And thank you to them, too!

**[00:34:00.430] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000054)  
which is this morning, we would be ready to present and answer to the best of our ability

**[00:34:05.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000055)  
all the questions of the members of the committee.

**[00:34:08.750] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000056)  
So this morning, we will be presenting the update on the highlights of PAGCOR's operational

**[00:34:17.990] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000057)  
and financial accomplishments for fiscal year 2025, 2026, as well as our projections for 2027.

**[00:34:30.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000058)  
For 2026, we will be reporting on the results of our first semester operations.

**[00:34:37.750] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000059)  
So with your permission, Chairperson Suansing, I would like to ask our AVP, Ms. Cheryl de Guia,

**[00:34:45.990] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000060)  
to start the presentation.

**[00:34:51.040] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000061)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair, for the introduction.

**[00:34:56.790] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000062)  
To all the honorable members of the House Committee on Appropriations, headed by Chairperson

**[00:35:02.110] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000063)  
to our Chairperson Mikaela Suansing,

**[00:35:04.647] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000064)  
Next slide, please.

**[00:35:09.349] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000065)  
The following slides will show our operational and financial highlights for 2025, estimates

**[00:35:16.470] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000066)  
for 2026, and projections for 2027.

**[00:35:19.200] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000067)  
Next slide, please.

**[00:35:20.611] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000068)  
I will present PAGCOR's financial and operational performance

**[00:35:28.272] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000069)  
and PAGCOR's contributions to nation-building.

**[00:35:38.800] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000070)  
This amount includes the 50% government share, the 5% franchise tax, and corporate income

**[00:35:43.280] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000071)  
tax to the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

**[00:35:49.160] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000072)  
Host city share, socio-civic projects, and the public sector.

**[00:35:55.295] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000073)  
It includes mandatory contributions to the Philippine Sports Commission, the Renewable

**[00:36:02.000] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000074)  
Energy Trust Fund, the Board of Claims, the Dangerous Drugs Board, sports benefits and

**[00:36:07.349] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000075)  
incentives to athletes and coaches who win in international competitions.

**[00:36:11.405] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000076)  
PAGCOR is the government's third-largest revenue-generating agency,

**[00:36:18.037] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000077)  
Next slide, please.

**[00:36:21.766] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000120)  
PAGCOR's actual total income for 2025 reached P106.03 billion,

**[00:36:28.680] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000121)  
total revenues of $88.33 billion and will allocate around $63 billion for nation-building activities.

**[00:36:38.142] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000122)  
PAGCOR's 2026 estimated total income is P86.95 billion,

**[00:36:50.040] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000123)  
The current slide shows a downward trend in the operating expenses, or OPEX, over total income

**[00:36:57.910] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000124)  
ratio from 34.84% in 2021 to 20.38% in 2025, while net income over total income ratio improved

**[00:37:10.150] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000125)  
from 0.57% in 2021 to 16.48% in 2025. For January to June 2026, however,

**[00:37:21.150] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000126)  
the OPEX over total income ratio went upward to 26.7%, while net income over total income ratio

**[00:37:30.270] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000127)  
PAGCOR's projected income for 2027 is P88.33 billion,

**[00:37:40.662] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000128)  
income from 2023 to 2025 actual, 2026 estimates, and 2027 projections.

**[00:37:50.750] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000129)  
PAGCOR projected a net income of P5.45 billion in 2027.

**[00:37:54.265] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000130)  
while net income over total income ratio went up to 1.18% on JAN or 2.28% on PEI.

**[00:37:56.924] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000131)  
In the case of the BIR's charter, five percent of the agencies' income from gaming operations

**[00:37:59.310] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000132)  
goes to the BIR as franchise tax. The 50 percent of the 95 percent balance of gaming revenues

**[00:38:03.900] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000133)  
goes to the National Treasury as national government's mandated income share. Half

**[00:38:10.390] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000134)  
of the said governments' share remitted to the National Treasury is allocated or goes

**[00:38:13.970] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000135)  
PAGCOR's total contributions to nation-building reached P66.95 billion in 2025,

**[00:38:20.750] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000136)  
are given fixed amount for their respective community development projects.

**[00:38:25.990] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000137)  
PAGCOR also allocates part of its revenues for socio-civic projects.

**[00:38:32.294] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000138)  
Pursuant to the National Internal Revenue Code,

**[00:38:35.150] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000139)  
PAGCOR is also paying corporate income tax to the BIR.

**[00:38:40.950] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000140)  
Special laws also top PAGCOR as a major funding source for the Philippine Sports Commission,

**[00:38:46.390] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000141)  
such as the 5% PSC share and the sports benefit and incentives for athletes and coaches.

**[00:38:51.790] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000142)  
Also, the Board of Claims and the Renewable Energy Trust Fund.

**[00:39:02.720] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000143)  
We now go to PAGCOR's significant accomplishments in 2025 and the first semester of 2026.

**[00:39:12.150] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000144)  
In 2025, the agency posted P95.14 billion in income from gaming operations,

**[00:39:15.069] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000145)  
lower by P2.38 billion,

**[00:39:19.069] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000146)  
or around 2.5% compared to the P97.52 billion in 2024.

**[00:39:25.870] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000147)  
Among the factors that declined in the gaming revenues in 2025 compared to the previous year

**[00:39:30.750] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000148)  
was the closure of Pogo in the middle of December 2024,

**[00:39:34.109] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000149)  
decline in gaming revenues of PAGCOR casinos,

**[00:39:36.910] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000150)  
as well as decline in gaming revenues of our licenses.

**[00:39:43.030] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000151)  
While the delinking of e-wallets from online gaming platforms

**[00:39:45.829] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000152)  
in the third quarter of the year 2020,

**[00:39:48.910] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000153)  
also slowed down the income.

**[00:39:58.870] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000154)  
The agency posted P106.03 billion in total income in 2025,

**[00:40:05.894] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000155)  
lower by P5.68 billion compared to the P111.71 billion total income in 2024.

**[00:40:17.190] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000156)  
PAGCOR's total contribution to nation-building reached P66.95 billion in 2025,

**[00:40:25.040] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000157)  
lower by P1.25 billion compared to the P68.20 billion contribution in 2024.

**[00:40:30.790] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000159)  
This is due to the lower revenues in 2025.

**[00:40:38.680] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000160)  
Also in 2025, PAGCOR remitted a total of P8.31 billion in taxes to the Bureau of Internal Revenue.

**[00:40:45.150] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000161)  
Of this amount, P4.78 billion represents PAGCOR franchise tax,

**[00:40:49.040] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000162)  
P2.63 billion within withholding taxes,

**[00:40:52.280] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000163)  
and P0.9 billion in corporate income tax.

**[00:41:00.625] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000164)  
On top of its contribution to nation-building,

**[00:41:04.275] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000165)  
PAGCOR declares and remits at least 50% of its annual net earnings as cash dividends

**[00:41:07.990] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000166)  
to the national government.

**[00:41:10.230] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000167)  
This is pursuant to Republic Act No. 7656 or the Dividends Law.

**[00:41:14.311] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000168)  
For 2025, PAGCOR declared P5.67 billion in dividends.

**[00:41:25.230] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000169)  
Based on the guidelines on the operationalization,

**[00:41:27.589] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000170)  
of the allocations appropriations for RA11223 or the Universal Healthcare Act of 2019,

**[00:41:37.550] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000171)  
PAGCOR shall remit 50% of its gaming revenue to the Bureau of Treasury every 20th of the month

**[00:41:44.510] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000172)  
and 50% of it will be allocated for the UHC.

**[00:41:49.520] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000173)  
The allocated funds shall be used exclusively for the improvement of benefits packages

**[00:41:53.790] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000174)  
under the PhilHealth's National Health Insurance Program.

**[00:41:58.990] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000175)  
And PAGCOR shall be consulted in the preparation of its Medium-Term Expenditure Program Plan.

**[00:42:08.720] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000176)  
For 2025, the 50% of the 50% government share for allocation to the UHC is around P22.56 billion.

**[00:42:22.950] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000177)  
During the first semester of 2026, PAGCOR's total income was P43.32 billion.

**[00:42:27.589] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000178)  
Of this amount,

**[00:42:31.316] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000179)  
P30.16 billion went to the nation building programs.

**[00:42:33.097] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000180)  
For the succeeding slides,

**[00:42:37.589] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000181)  
I will now turn you over to Assistant Vice President Eric Balcos,

**[00:42:40.349] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000182)  
Head of the PAGCOR Community Relations and Services Department,

**[00:42:44.829] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000183)  
to discuss other significant accomplishments and PAGCOR's

**[00:42:47.920] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Maria Cheryl I. De Guia** (asr-000184)  
corporate social responsibility projects of PAGCOR.

**[00:42:54.366] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000185)  
Magandang umaga po.

**[00:42:58.070] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000186)  
The following slides highlight PAGCOR's additional accomplishments

**[00:43:02.630] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000187)  
and contributions to nation building on top of its mandated contributions.

**[00:43:07.137] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000188)  
Next slide, please.

**[00:43:13.230] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000189)  
On March 25, 2026, PAGCOR, in partnership with the Department of Education,

**[00:43:19.589] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000190)  
launched a nationwide school building program to help address the country's classroom shortage

**[00:43:24.630] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000191)  
under the instructions of President Ferdinand R. Marcos, Jr.

**[00:43:28.140] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000192)  
Under the program,

**[00:43:31.031] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000193)  
PAGCOR has committed the amount of 7.5 billion pesos

**[00:43:34.510] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000194)  
to fund the construction of 125 three-story 12-classroom school buildings

**[00:43:40.990] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000195)  
equivalent to approximately 1,500 classrooms over the next two years.

**[00:43:49.190] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000196)  
Every facility will be equipped with student chairs and tables,

**[00:43:56.109] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000197)  
PWD-friendly amenities, electric fans, microphones, a 75-inch smart TV,

**[00:43:59.829] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000198)  
and a one-year internet subscription.

**[00:44:03.839] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000199)  
Site selection is determined upon the recommendation of the Department of Education

**[00:44:08.710] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000200)  
and the capability of recipient local government units

**[00:44:12.960] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000201)  
to complete the school buildings awarded to them.

**[00:44:14.920] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000202)  
Next slide, please.

**[00:44:20.990] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000203)  
In line with President Ferdinand R. Marcos, Jr.'s order

**[00:44:23.470] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000204)  
to improve emergency and medical services in far-flung areas,

**[00:44:28.576] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000205)  
PAGCOR has been donating

**[00:44:30.685] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000206)  
has been donating

**[00:44:32.270] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000207)  
patient transport vehicles to local government units,

**[00:44:34.309] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000208)  
public hospitals, frontline agencies,

**[00:44:37.630] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000209)  
as well as non-government organizations.

**[00:44:40.160] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000210)  
Each vehicle is equipped with GPS,

**[00:44:43.510] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000211)  
an ambulance stretcher, oxygen tank, wheelchair,

**[00:44:48.829] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000212)  
and first aid kit to provide immediate medical care to those in need.

**[00:44:54.549] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000213)  
To date, PAGCOR has donated close to 250 PTVs

**[00:44:57.670] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000214)  
to various recipients across the country.

**[00:44:59.470] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000215)  
the country next slide every year destructive typhoons and other natural disasters impact

**[00:45:07.470] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000216)  
the philippines resulting in casualties and causing millions of pesos worth of losses in

**[00:45:19.589] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000217)  
agriculture, infrastructure, and livelihood. PAGCOR helps ease the effects of natural calamities by

**[00:45:25.950] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000218)  
providing immediate assistance to affected individuals and families in 2025 and in the

**[00:45:32.630] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000219)  
first semester of 2026 the agency spent a total of 300 million pesos for the purchase of food and

**[00:45:38.349] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000220)  
non-food packs for distribution in areas hit by typhoons floods earthquakes volcanic eruptions

**[00:45:43.240] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000221)  
and fires. On July 24, 2026, PAGCOR, together with the Bloomberry Cultural Foundation, Inc.,

**[00:45:58.520] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000222)  
the clark development corporation and the department of health

**[00:46:04.520] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000223)  
inaugurated the Jose B. Lingad Children's Medical Center,

**[00:46:08.430] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000224)  
the first facility completed under the clark multi-specialty medical center project

**[00:46:13.630] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000225)  
The inauguration was graced by His Excellency President Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr.

**[00:46:20.950] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000226)  
the state-of-the-art pediatric facility is equipped with advanced medical machines

**[00:46:25.549] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000227)  
including ai assisted diagnostic equipment enabling faster and more accurate diagnosis

**[00:46:33.215] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000228)  
of pediatric conditions that will significantly enhance health care delivery for children

**[00:46:37.750] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000229)  
in Central Luzon and neighboring regions. PAGCOR contributed P360 million worth of medical

**[00:46:45.549] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000230)  
equipment for the project while the bloomberry cultural foundation incorporated provided 1 billion

**[00:46:52.559] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000231)  
pesos for the construction and development of the facility. That ends our report po. We wish

**[00:47:00.950] PAGCOR Assistant Vice President Eric I. Balcos** (asr-000232)  
to thank the House Committee on Appropriations for inviting PAGCOR today.

**[00:47:09.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000233)  
Thank you very much. Sir, pahingi lang po ako ng 20 seconds. May kino-compute lang po ako doon sa delta from year on year sa financial report.

**[00:47:18.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000234)  
Twenty seconds po, very quickly. Thank you very much, Chairman Tengco, Vice President De Guia, and

**[00:47:56.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000235)  
Assistant Vice President Balcos, for that presentation.

**[00:48:01.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000236)  
i think that was one of the main questions that i posed also in the

**[00:48:05.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000237)  
opening statement which is there is an 18 percent decrease from the 2025 actual total income

**[00:48:14.599] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000238)  
projection of 106 billion down to 86.94 95 billion in 2026 may we request clarification

**[00:48:28.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000239)  
that is really because of the downturn in gaming operations income so may we request for a

**[00:48:36.079] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000240)  
um an explanation to explain the downturn in in total income from 2025 to 2026

**[00:48:48.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000241)  
Good morning chairperson Suansing

**[00:48:53.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000242)  
you're referring to the decline in our

**[00:48:55.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000243)  
revenue as to the reasons okay there are a few reasons in

**[00:49:01.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000244)  
ma'am uh as stated number one uh from 2025 to 2026 the yield those are not untapped

**[00:49:05.756] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000245)  
from 2025 to 2026 the median yield is only 15% of the somewhere equals 20% of the total growth range

**[00:49:06.317] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000246)  
2025 to 2026 there were so many events that transpired number one was the the linking

**[00:49:15.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000247)  
in uh september or towards the last quarter of uh last year of the e-wallets

**[00:49:26.559] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000248)  
customers there was an order coming from the senate in a hearing sometime in september

**[00:49:36.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000249)  
of last year requesting the banco central philippinas to implement the delinking of

**[00:49:43.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000250)  
the payment apps online gaming customers so we after that was implemented we had experienced

**[00:49:58.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000251)  
a downtrend of about 40 percent uh in gaming activities

**[00:50:12.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000252)  
it is being uh deducted from your account if you were playing online but because of the delinking

**[00:50:19.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000253)  
you have to go through another process so that contributed to a 40 percent decline now um we

**[00:50:31.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000254)  
noticed that

**[00:50:34.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000255)  
decline from 40

**[00:50:37.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000256)  
towards the early part of 2026

**[00:50:50.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000257)  
unfortunately the middle east crisis happened and truly

**[00:50:56.559] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000258)  
both the land-based casinos or our licenses were affected and so with online gaming as you very well

**[00:51:06.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000259)  
in the online gaming market our main customers come from the cde market and they that market was

**[00:51:19.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000260)  
the one that was truly affected by the middle east crisis now just as an update for the month of july

**[00:51:29.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000261)  
we saw an increase in gaming activity of about 10 percent and

**[00:51:36.559] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000262)  
the in august uh still on that same level so hopefully as economic conditions improve

**[00:51:45.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000263)  
then we will be able to have better revenue coming from online gaming

**[00:51:51.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000264)  
now with regard to land-based casinos and i'm referring to our big licenses

**[00:52:01.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000265)  
pong integrated resorts

**[00:52:07.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000266)  
very weak thank you

**[00:52:14.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000267)  
2026 however a good sign is there is now an uptick in the number of tourists

**[00:52:23.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000268)  
who are patronizing this uh integrated resorts so we have seen a slight upward trend in towards the

**[00:52:34.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000269)  
end of July and early August. I had received reports from our licensees that the number of

**[00:52:46.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000270)  
tourists who are patronizing the integrated resorts have started to also improve in the last

**[00:52:55.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000271)  
month and a half. So if the trend continues and considering that the peak season for gaming

**[00:53:08.559] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000272)  
activities is already coming up, and I'm referring to the last quarter of the year, hopefully we're

**[00:53:14.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000273)  
able to recover the weak revenue in the first half towards the latter part of this year.

**[00:53:24.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000274)  
Thank you, Chairman Al.

**[00:53:26.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000275)  
Just

**[00:53:27.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000276)  
wanted to highlight that despite the 20 billion decrease in the estimated total income from 2025

**[00:53:35.319] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000277)  
to 2026, the total contributions to nation building did not actually go down by much. From

**[00:53:43.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000278)  
2025, level of 66.9 billion, despite the 20 billion decrease in total income, 8.3% or 5.5

**[00:53:56.319] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000279)  
billion decreased in contributions to nation building. So we just like to

**[00:54:03.319] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000280)  
commend PAGCOR for that despite the downturn in total income, the contributions to nation

**[00:54:11.839] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000281)  
building still remained intact, more or less. So it didn't see that big of a downturn. So

**[00:54:18.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000282)  
in terms of contribution, thank you for continuing to your commitments to the government in terms of contributions in nation building

**[00:54:29.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000283)  
thank you for that comment and what i

**[00:54:32.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000284)  
want to emphasize kaya dimpulu makian i we are now implementing effective january 1st 2026 the

**[00:54:46.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000285)  
ruling with finality of the supreme court

**[00:54:52.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000286)  
initially

**[00:54:55.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000287)  
we were only remitting um the the interpretation of the five percent under the law of uh punk

**[00:55:06.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000288)  
corps remittance to the philippine sports commission uh during the time of then president

**[00:55:14.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000289)  
fidel valdez ramos uh how's uh the the formula that was agreed upon then was uh it would be five

**[00:55:23.445] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000290)  
percent

**[00:55:23.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000291)  
of gaming revenue only so yumpuyo interpretation nung panahong po ni president fidel valdez ramos

**[00:55:36.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000292)  
pero nito pong ah towards the last quarter of 2025 nagkaroon pong ng ruling with finality na

**[00:55:45.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000293)  
ang korte suprema at ang interpretation pong ngayon hindi po interpretation ang kanila pong

**[00:55:52.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000294)  
ruling ang remittance po dapat ng gobyern ng PAGCOR ngayon sa philippine sports commission

**[00:56:00.559] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000295)  
ay dapat po, Chairperson Suansing, five percent of our gross income. Ang nakalulungkot po rito

**[00:56:13.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000296)  
ay the the case was filed in 1993 the ruling with finality

**[00:56:24.039] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000297)  
was a came out last quarter of 2025 and ang nakalulungkot po yung ruling po e retroactive 1993

**[00:56:37.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000298)  
sa kadaylanan po nun kasalukuyan pong nakikipag usap kami sa philippine sports commission

**[00:56:47.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000299)  
sapagkat ang pinababayaran po ayon sa disisyon ng supreme court sa PAGCOR

**[00:56:53.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000300)  
ng philippine sports commission dahil batro aktib yon ruling ay kumikikubo lang po bottom seven Hey

**[00:57:05.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000301)  
yo alooooo targeting ang ulil inch Puis Healing in our motion for reconsideration a ast locations

**[00:57:12.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000302)  
of the payment ang naging Kol SocialCC salo om bayaran po ng PAGCOR yun Solog dan sampong tao

**[00:57:18.973] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000303)  
So 1 kaya kapasalagot uh ayo ay batra dito yung lep marin na code ay voley talaga di mag comedo sa words

**[00:57:21.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000304)  
So, one, kaya double whammy po ang effect sa PAGCOR eh.

**[00:57:26.559] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000305)  
Una, kami po ay from an average of 190 million pesos a month

**[00:57:33.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000306)  
sa Philippine Sports Commission contribution ng PAGCOR.

**[00:57:38.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000307)  
Ngayon po ay hindi na kami bumababa sa mahigit 300 million piso kada buwan.

**[00:57:44.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000308)  
At bukod po roon, meron po kaming ongoing talks with PSC

**[00:57:51.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000309)  
kailangan na rin po kami mag-upisa magbayad noong retroactive payment

**[00:57:56.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000310)  
doon sa utang namin na 37 billion.

**[00:57:59.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000311)  
So, on our end, mabigat po yun sapagat nowhere did PAGCOR project through the years

**[00:58:08.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000312)  
that we will have to pay.

**[00:58:10.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000313)  
But we respect the decision of the Supreme Court.

**[00:58:15.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000314)  
Hindi ko man po panahon yun eh.

**[00:58:17.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000315)  
Wala po tayong magagawa.

**[00:58:18.799] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000316)  
Kailangan pong...

**[00:58:21.039] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000317)  
sundin at implement natin ang naging ruling ng Korte Suprema.

**[00:58:26.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000318)  
So, yun po, Chairperson Suansing at members of this committee,

**[00:58:32.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000319)  
ang isa sa pangunahing dahilan kung bakit tumaas yung contribution sa nation building.

**[00:58:38.799] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000320)  
Ang totoo po, yung na-contribute namin in 2025,

**[00:58:43.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000321)  
ay nahigitan na po ng contribution namin from January to July of 2020.

**[00:58:50.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000322)  
So, ganun po kalaki talaga ang naging efekto ng ruling ng Korte Suprema

**[00:58:59.039] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000323)  
sa kasalukuyang financial state ng PAGCOR.

**[00:59:04.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000324)  
Thank you po, Chairman Al.

**[00:59:06.440] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000325)  
Actually, last year po when we had their budget deliberations, wala pang ruling.

**[00:59:10.359] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000326)  
Hindi pa po nag-rule noon with financial...

**[00:59:12.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000327)  
Although, Chairperson, noong pong panahon na yun, meron na po kami motion for reconsideration.

**[00:59:19.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000328)  
Pero, as I mentioned, October po nung nag-ano,

**[00:59:24.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000329)  
ang ginawa ko naman po at pumayag din naman po si Chairman Pato Gregorio

**[00:59:30.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000330)  
at namagitan po sa amin ay si Executive Secretary Ralph Recto,

**[00:59:36.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000331)  
effective na lang muna January 1, 2026.

**[00:59:41.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000332)  
Kaya, yun po ay...

**[00:59:43.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000333)  
Ang ginawa ko para hindi na last two months na lamang,

**[00:59:47.799] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000334)  
nakiusap po ako na yung...

**[00:59:49.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000335)  
January 1, 2026 na lamang.

**[00:59:53.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000336)  
At pagkatapos naman po, yung utang...

**[00:59:56.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000337)  
eh pag-uusapan na lang namin kung paano namin babayaran.

**[01:00:01.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000338)  
Pero sampun taon lang po ang ipinagkaloob ng Supreme Court sa PAGCOR

**[01:00:06.559] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000339)  
na isettle yung nasabing pagkakautang na ito.

**[01:00:11.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000340)  
Thank you, Chairman Al.

**[01:00:12.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000341)  
So at 37 billion po across 10 years, ang dagdag po 3.7 billion per year.

**[01:00:17.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000342)  
So, Chairperson, para pong lumalabas, more or less P300 million a month

**[01:00:26.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000343)  
ang aming kailangan bayaran.

**[01:00:28.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000344)  
Kaya ito po ay makaka-apekto sa aming mga projects, sa aming mga pinagkakaloob na tulong

**[01:00:38.039] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000345)  
sapagkat P300 million, imbis na maitulong na natin yan sa nation-building,

**[01:00:44.799] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000346)  
kailangan ko pong ibaya d'yon dun sa utang namin na naging desisyon ng Korte Suprema.

**[01:00:52.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000347)  
I wish everyone to take note, yung kaso po in 1990,

**[01:00:55.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000348)  
1993 pa. At ito po ay filed ni dating congressman Yeng Guiao,

**[01:01:05.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000349)  
naging congressman po yata siya dati, siya po ang nag-file noon noong 1993

**[01:01:10.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000350)  
at nito lang pong 2025 nagkaroon ng final ruling.

**[01:01:17.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000351)  
Sabi ko nga po, hindi ko man po administration yan, eh talagang kailangan natin ipatupad.

**[01:01:25.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000352)  
Ang utos ng Korte Suprema.

**[01:01:28.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000353)  
Salamat po, Chairperson.

**[01:01:30.839] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000354)  
Thank you po, Chairman Tengco, for the update.

**[01:01:34.359] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000355)  
So when we scrutinize the budget of the Philippine Sports Commission later on,

**[01:01:40.079] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000356)  
we'll make sure na yung additional remittances po na natatanggap nila ay nagagamit po talaga nila ng tama.

**[01:01:46.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000357)  
So we'll take note po on the part of the Committee on Appropriations,

**[01:01:49.559] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000358)  
just so when we deliberate on the PSC's budget, we'll make sure po, since almost double po,

**[01:01:56.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000359)  
yung natatanggap nila on a monthly, more than double on a monthly basis, yung natatanggap nila.

**[01:02:02.039] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000360)  
Sana po nagagamit po talaga nila para tulungan po yung ating mga atleta.

**[01:02:06.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000361)  
Thank you, Chair Al.

**[01:02:07.799] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000362)  
But I also would like to highlight, under contributions to nation building,

**[01:02:11.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000363)  
despite the lower income, tumaas pa po yung socio-civic projects ninyo.

**[01:02:17.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000364)  
From P12.4 billion in 2024 to P12.8 billion in 2025,

**[01:02:27.079] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000365)  
And to 13.99 billion in 2026.

**[01:02:31.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000366)  
So we'd like to commend you on that as well po, that despite the downturn in the income,

**[01:02:36.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000367)  
you still retain the commitments around socio-civic projects.

**[01:02:41.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000368)  
Madam Chair, here, congress, dito po.

**[01:02:45.039] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000369)  
Yung clarificatory question sa talong mo kanina with regard to the payment sa Philippine Sports Commission,

**[01:02:51.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000370)  
di ba, every year nagbabayad na sila.

**[01:02:53.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000371)  
So, ibig sabihin, matodoble ang...

**[01:02:57.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000372)  
Kasi nagbayad na sila, contribution nila since 1993 sa National Treasury natin,

**[01:03:03.799] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000373)  
at the same time, ngayon magbibigyan na ulit,

**[01:03:06.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000374)  
kasama na yung binayad nila sa National Treasury.

**[01:03:09.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000375)  
So, ibig sabihin, doble-doble ang PSC ngayon, makukuha nila.

**[01:03:14.559] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000376)  
Congress, thank you very much.

**[01:03:16.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000377)  
Chair Al, may please respond to the query of representative...

**[01:03:18.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000378)  
With your permission, Chairperson Suansing, I'd like to answer Congressman Presley.

**[01:03:24.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000379)  
Go ahead.

**[01:03:26.642] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000380)  
Congressman Presley, hindi lang po doble sapagkat, tulad po ng nabanggit ko kanina, Your Honor,

**[01:03:36.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000381)  
yung dati pong contribution nung panahon na inabutan ko na,

**[01:03:40.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000382)  
nag-a-average po ng mga 180 to 190 million per month.

**[01:03:49.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000383)  
With the Supreme Court ruling po, na five percent po ang mandato ng PAGCOR

**[01:03:56.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000384)  
sa gross revenue, sa ngayon po, ay mahigit doble na po effective nung January 1,

**[01:04:03.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000385)  
yung aming kinocontribute.

**[01:04:06.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000386)  
Sa ngayon po, eh, kung di ako nagkakamalik,

**[01:04:09.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000387)  
umaabot po ng kulang 400 million na isang buwan.

**[01:04:12.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000388)  
Pero, over and above that, Your Honor,

**[01:04:16.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000389)  
pinagbabayad po kami ng Korte Suprema,

**[01:04:19.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000390)  
retroactive 1993.

**[01:04:24.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000391)  
Yun po, ay...

**[01:04:26.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000392)  
mag-a-average na naman ng kulang tatloon,

**[01:04:28.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000393)  
mahigit kumulang tatloon daang milyong piso po yung kada buwan.

**[01:04:33.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000394)  
Kaya po, kung ito ay talagang may implement,

**[01:04:37.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000395)  
ang magiging contribution po ng PAGCOR sa Philippine Sports Commission,

**[01:04:42.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000396)  
ay aabutin po ng kulang 700 million piso bawat buwan.

**[01:04:48.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000397)  
Ito po yung 5% na ngayon utos ng Korte Suprema sa gross revenue na magmumula,

**[01:04:56.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000398)  
plus, yung binigyan po kami ng sampun taon lamang ng Korte Suprema

**[01:05:02.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000399)  
na bayaran yung pagkakautang ng PAGCOR magsimula po noong 1993.

**[01:05:09.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000400)  
Madam Chair, I think we need to look into it, no?

**[01:05:13.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000401)  
Kasi, doble-doble na budget ng PSA ngayon.

**[01:05:15.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000402)  
With the payment for 3.3 billion every year for the next 10 years, ma'am,

**[01:05:20.200] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000403)  
that's sobra naman yan.

**[01:05:22.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000404)  
So, imagine pag-court, karamihan talaga more on...

**[01:05:25.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000405)  
namimigay sila, pero sobra naman kung ibibigay sa PSC yan.

**[01:05:29.240] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000406)  
I think we have to look into it, Madam Chair.

**[01:05:31.680] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000407)  
That's it. Thank you very much.

**[01:05:32.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000408)  
Thank you very much, Kong Presley.

**[01:05:33.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000409)  
Actually, I'm taking a look at the level,

**[01:05:37.480] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000410)  
the fiscal year 2027 NEP level for the PSC.

**[01:05:42.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000411)  
Medyo bumaba po siya in comparison to the 2026 GAA level,

**[01:05:47.319] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000412)  
pero yung binaba po is not commensurate yet to the increase in the remittances from PAGCOR.

**[01:05:55.359] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000413)  
So, we'll definitely scrutinize that on the part of the Committee on Appropriations

**[01:06:00.839] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000414)  
that whichever level we settle at Kong Presley for the final HGAB level of PSC,

**[01:06:10.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000415)  
talaga pong yung kailangan, whichever is sufficient based on their utilization

**[01:06:16.359] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000416)  
and based on the programs and projects that they have lined up for fiscal year 2027.

**[01:06:21.880] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-000417)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[01:06:22.119] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000418)  
Thank you po for pointing that out.

**[01:06:24.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000419)  
Chairperson, may I just make a...

**[01:06:26.284] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000420)  
May I make a clarification?

**[01:06:27.039] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000421)  
Yes, po. Chairperson, thank you.

**[01:06:28.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000422)  
Yung pong 37 billion, I'll be very candid here.

**[01:06:33.039] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000423)  
Hindi pa po namin naumpisahang bayaran.

**[01:06:36.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000424)  
Yung pong sinasabi kong inumpisahan namin noong January 1, 2026,

**[01:06:42.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000425)  
ay yung 5% of the gross revenue.

**[01:06:46.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000426)  
Yung pong, in fairness, yung pong halos 300 million naman,

**[01:06:51.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000427)  
yung po ang pinag-uusapan namin pang kasalukuyan ni PSC,

**[01:06:56.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000428)  
si Chairman Pato Gregorio, kung papano po.

**[01:06:59.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000429)  
And I think we are close to coming up with an agreement very soon

**[01:07:06.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000430)  
para po nang sa ganun ay magamit na niya sa kanyang mga programa

**[01:07:12.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000431)  
yung nasabing pagkakautang ng PAGCOR na na-rule ng Supreme Court with finality.

**[01:07:20.319] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000432)  
Thank you, Chairman Tengco.

**[01:07:21.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000433)  
So if we may request po from the PAGCOR officials,

**[01:07:25.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000434)  
copy of your remittances to the PSC if, kung pwede po,

**[01:07:31.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000435)  
January, the whole of 2025, as well as 2026 from the start of the year to this year.

**[01:07:39.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000436)  
So we can take that into account as we look through the budget of the Philippine Sports Commission.

**[01:07:45.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000437)  
Thank you very much po.

**[01:07:47.839] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000438)  
Those are my main clarificatory questions po.

**[01:07:52.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000439)  
We'll now open the floor to our distinguished colleagues.

**[01:07:55.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000440)  
To post questions and comments to the PAGCOR family,

**[01:08:00.960] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000441)  
may I respectfully remind our distinguished colleagues

**[01:08:03.799] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000442)  
that each member is given five minutes for questioning or interpolation,

**[01:08:08.119] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000443)  
excluding the response of the resource persons.

**[01:08:10.799] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000444)  
And when you hear the bell sound, it means that you have 30 seconds to wind up your questions.

**[01:08:16.159] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000445)  
As part of the longstanding and respected tradition of the House of Representatives

**[01:08:20.719] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000446)  
to accord preferential treatment to the minority members of the House,

**[01:08:24.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000447)  
followed by independence,

**[01:08:25.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000448)  
and majority members in an alternating manner,

**[01:08:29.279] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000449)  
that is how I will recognize our colleagues who have signed up for interpolations.

**[01:08:34.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000450)  
We'll start with the minority, then independent, then majority.

**[01:08:39.359] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000451)  
And with that, we'll first start with the first member of the minority,

**[01:08:44.199] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000452)  
Representative Elijah San Fernando.

**[01:08:46.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000453)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[01:08:48.759] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000454)  
Chair, thank ko sa presentation niyo po binanggit na 95 billion ng kita ng PAGCOR

**[01:08:54.679] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000455)  
ng galing sa gaming.

**[01:08:55.799] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000456)  
At sa gaming operation, ilang percent po ito ng total income ng PAGCOR?

**[01:09:00.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000457)  
Iyan po ay halos, imingit ko mo lang, 95, 96 percent din po ng total income natin.

**[01:09:08.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000458)  
Meron po ba tayong ballpark figure, ilan yung customers na pumapasok dito sa gaming operations,

**[01:09:15.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000459)  
online gaming operations?

**[01:09:16.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000460)  
Sa online po, ang nakarehistro po na mga customers ay meron pong 30,

**[01:09:26.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000461)  
30 million registered po yun.

**[01:09:31.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000462)  
Yung pong aktibong naglalaro, mga 10 million po.

**[01:09:36.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000463)  
Yung po yung active mismong naglalaro.

**[01:09:39.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000464)  
Pero ang nakarehistro po sa pangkasalukuyan, imingit ko mo lang po mga 30 million po.

**[01:09:45.759] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000465)  
Thank you, Chair, thank ko.

**[01:09:48.359] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000466)  
Nabanggit niyo po kanina, out of this 30 million registered and 10 million active players in online gaming,

**[01:09:55.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000467)  
most of them ay nanggagaling sa CDE market. Tama po ba ito, Chair?

**[01:10:00.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000468)  
Nandyan po yung malaking porsyento po, Congress.

**[01:10:06.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000469)  
Thank you.

**[01:10:06.760] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000470)  
Your Honor.

**[01:10:07.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000471)  
So kapag pinag-usapan po natin itong market ng online gaming operation natin,

**[01:10:11.640] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000472)  
pinatutungkulan po natin dito mga manggagawa, particular, mga minimum wage earner, and low income earners po.

**[01:10:18.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000473)  
Tama po ba?

**[01:10:19.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000474)  
Tama po, Your Honor.

**[01:10:21.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000475)  
Thank you.

**[01:10:22.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000476)  
Noong July 2025 po, may pinirmahan na memorandum.

**[01:10:25.230] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000477)  
Noong July 2025 po, may pinirmahan na memorandum of understanding ang PAGCOR at ang Adstandard Council.

**[01:10:29.600] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000478)  
Sabi po dito, ang gambling ay pasok na doon sa must-screen category.

**[01:10:34.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000479)  
Pwede niyo po bang ipaliwanag sa amin ano yung sakop ng must-screen category ng gambling?

**[01:10:40.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000480)  
Ano yung mga sakop po nito?

**[01:10:42.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000481)  
Your Honor, noong 2025, ang PAGCOR po, isa sa mga programa niya sa Responsible Gaming,

**[01:10:52.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000482)  
ang pakikipag-ugnayan po sa...

**[01:10:57.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000483)  
sa Adstandard Council.

**[01:10:58.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000484)  
Kung napansin ninyo, at kung naalala ko po, hearing po rito rin ng budget,

**[01:11:06.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000485)  
hindi pa po namin napipirmahan yung aming pakikipag-ugnayan sa Adstandard Council

**[01:11:14.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000486)  
noong huli pong hearing natin ng budget ng PAGCOR for year 2026.

**[01:11:20.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000487)  
Ang naganap po, at noon po naging isyong malaki,

**[01:11:24.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000488)  
yung pong lahat ng...

**[01:11:25.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000489)  
yung billboard halos sa buong Maynila at gayon din sa mga major tollways

**[01:11:32.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000490)  
ay punong... nakita po ng nating lahat ay napakadami po sa mga billboard na ito

**[01:11:40.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000491)  
ay nauukol sa online gaming.

**[01:11:44.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000492)  
Kaya, ako po ay naalarma rin at sa pakikipag-ugnayan po natin sa Adstandard Council

**[01:11:53.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000493)  
nagkaroon po na ngayon ng panuntunan.

**[01:11:55.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000494)  
O nagkaroon ngayon ng struktura.

**[01:11:58.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000495)  
Kung saan, una, hindi na po pwedeng mag-advertise ng lantaran

**[01:12:06.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000496)  
ang anumang uri ng online gaming operator, sino man ito,

**[01:12:13.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000497)  
gayon din naman po maski yung land-based casinos natin.

**[01:12:16.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000498)  
Kaya, sometime po, binigil ako po ng...

**[01:12:20.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000499)  
Kung di ako nagkakamali,

**[01:12:24.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000500)  
60 araw na palugit.

**[01:12:25.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000501)  
Ang lahat ng mga billboard na ito,

**[01:12:27.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000502)  
pero effective po noong September 2025,

**[01:12:32.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000503)  
naibaba na po natin lahat ito.

**[01:12:35.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000504)  
Pangalawa, hindi na po pwedeng mag-advertise na lamang

**[01:12:40.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000505)  
ang isang land-based operator,

**[01:12:43.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000506)  
gayon din po, your honor,

**[01:12:45.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000507)  
ang mga online gaming operators,

**[01:12:48.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000508)  
kung hindi dumadaan sa Adstandard Council.

**[01:12:54.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000509)  
Pangatlo po,

**[01:12:56.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000510)  
ipinagbawal na rin po ng Adstandard Council

**[01:13:00.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000511)  
ang pag-a-advertise ng online gaming or land-based casino operations

**[01:13:05.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000512)  
during prime time.

**[01:13:07.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000513)  
Hindi na po sila pwedeng mag-advertise between 5 to 8 o'clock in the evening.

**[01:13:16.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000514)  
At ngayon po,

**[01:13:17.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000515)  
hindi na po maaari ka maglagay ng mga advertisement

**[01:13:24.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000516)  
na nagiging...

**[01:13:28.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000517)  
nakalalamang po ngayon

**[01:13:29.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000518)  
sa mga advertisements na nakikita natin sa kapeligiran

**[01:13:33.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000519)  
ay meron pong paalala tungkol sa responsible gaming.

**[01:13:39.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000520)  
So, yun po ang pinakabalangkas

**[01:13:43.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000521)  
ng pakikipagkasunduan po

**[01:13:46.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000522)  
ng PAGCOR sa Adstandard Council.

**[01:13:50.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000523)  
Thank you, Chair Al.

**[01:13:52.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000524)  
So, binabanggit niyo po, hindi pa napirmahan.

**[01:13:57.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000525)  
Nung pong isang taong nag-i-hearing tayo,

**[01:13:59.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000526)  
hindi pa po na...

**[01:14:01.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000527)  
Pero ngayon po,

**[01:14:02.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000528)  
ipinatutupad na po nila ngayon sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[01:14:05.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000529)  
Salamat, Chair Al.

**[01:14:07.159] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000530)  
Kaugnay po nito,

**[01:14:08.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000531)  
naglabas ng ASC Circular 2025-010

**[01:14:12.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000532)  
all gambling advertisements in all forms

**[01:14:16.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000533)  
must be secured by ASC prior to implementation.

**[01:14:19.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000534)  
Tama po ba ito?

**[01:14:20.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000535)  
Are you aware of this?

**[01:14:20.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000536)  
Tama po, Your Honor.

**[01:14:21.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000537)  
Ang totoo po,

**[01:14:22.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000538)  
kung makikita nyo yung mga current advertisements,

**[01:14:25.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000539)  
ngayon ng mga online gaming operators,

**[01:14:29.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000540)  
gayon din po ang mga land-based operations.

**[01:14:33.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000541)  
Meron na po nakalagay sa ilalim,

**[01:14:36.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000542)  
ASC, Adstandard Council,

**[01:14:39.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000543)  
may numero po,

**[01:14:41.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000544)  
yun po ang pagpapatunay na dumaan ito sa kanila

**[01:14:45.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000545)  
para masuri kung tama po ba yung content

**[01:14:49.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000546)  
ng billboard or anumang pong uri

**[01:14:52.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000547)  
ng advertisement ang pinatutupad nila.

**[01:14:54.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000548)  
Thank you, Chair Al.

**[01:14:55.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000549)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[01:14:56.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000550)  
Bago po.

**[01:14:56.680] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000551)  
Sir, bago pumunta sa ASC, yung mga advertisers kailangan po munang dumaan sa inyo at makasecure ng approval for advertising. Tama po ba ito, Chair Al?

**[01:15:06.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000552)  
Tama po, Your Honor. Ang nangyayari po ngayon, nauuna po sa amin at halos sabay pong nag-a-apply sa amin o hiningin na approval sa amin, ngayon din po sa Ad Standards Council.

**[01:15:23.120] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000553)  
Thank you, Chair Al. Maraming salamat po sa clarification. So lahat ng porma ng advertising, may it be billboard, online o kahit saan pa, dapat po mag-secure muna ng AA sa PAGCOR bago sila pumunta sa ASC para makakuha ng clearance para makapag-advertise.

**[01:15:42.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000554)  
Tama po kayo, Your Honor. Ngayon po, Madam Chair, ang malaking problema po natin, nagkalat po yung mga content creator.

**[01:15:55.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000555)  
Na nagpo-promote ng online gambling. At ito pong mga content creator na ito, hindi sumusunod doon sa regulation as set by PAGCOR and the Ad Standards Council.

**[01:16:08.239] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000556)  
Halimbawa, pinakasikat po, Ivana Alawi, mamimigay ng isang daang iPhone 17 pero hindi pala kusang ibibigay yun.

**[01:16:19.239] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000557)  
Dapat, ikaw muna ay mag-subscribe o mag-like doon sa isang online gaming.

**[01:16:26.639] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000558)  
At wala po kahit saan dito yung pagsunod doon sa sinasabi po na pinag-uusapan natin kanina, Ad Standards Council, authority, merong approval po mula sa PAGCOR.

**[01:16:39.719] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000559)  
Hindi rin po nakalagay. Halimbawa, ito pong isang to, isang sikat to, si Osas. Galawang Osas bata. Millions of followers po to.

**[01:16:48.199] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000560)  
Wala po kahit saan dyan na nakasulat na gambling can be addictive. Know when to stop.

**[01:16:55.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000561)  
My question po, Madam Chair, is paano po ini-implement o ini-exercise ng PAGCOR ang kanyang regulatory power over these content creators and influencers?

**[01:17:09.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000562)  
Madam Chairperson, I will, with your permission, I would like to answer.

**[01:17:15.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000563)  
Congressman San Fernando, una po, totoo po yun.

**[01:17:22.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000564)  
Meron pong sumusunod.

**[01:17:24.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000565)  
Meron pong hindi sumusunod.

**[01:17:27.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000566)  
Ang akin pong gustong talakayin sa umagang ito ay yung pinunan ninyo na lumabas na ang isang online endorser tulad ni Ivana.

**[01:17:42.766] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000567)  
Okay.

**[01:17:44.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000568)  
Sa harap ninyo at sasagutin ko pong hindi po sila himingi ng permiso.

**[01:17:50.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000569)  
Ano po ang ginawa ng PAGCOR?

**[01:17:54.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000575)  
We fined the online gaming company 1 million pesos and together with that, gave them a stern warning na hindi na dapat maulit ito.

**[01:18:08.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000576)  
Kung maulit ito, heavier fine and the possibility that it can lead, another violation can lead to the suspension and ultimately the cancellation of their license.

**[01:18:24.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000577)  
So yan po, naipatupad namin.

**[01:18:27.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000578)  
Nagbayad po sila ng isang milyong piso at minanduhan din po namin sila, Your Honor, na ihintuna yung nasabing promosyo na yon.

**[01:18:39.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000579)  
Pangalawa, meron po kayong pinakita rin na posas rosas.

**[01:18:49.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000580)  
Your Honor, marami po dyan ay hindi.

**[01:18:54.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000581)  
May mga licensee ng PAGCOR.

**[01:18:57.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000582)  
Hanggang sa mga oras na ito, may halos tumatabla lang po.

**[01:19:03.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000583)  
50% ng nag-ooperate ay may lisensya ng PAGCOR.

**[01:19:09.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000584)  
50% po naman ay illegal.

**[01:19:14.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000585)  
Kaya ang akin po, kung wala pong tinutukoy dyan, hindi po kamukano kay Ivana kanina, Your Honor, na inyong tinukoy.

**[01:19:23.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000586)  
Nag-identify siya ng online gaming operator.

**[01:19:29.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000587)  
Legal po yun.

**[01:19:31.444] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000588)  
Meron po kaming karapatang mag-issue ng isang warning at magpabayad ng fine.

**[01:19:41.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000589)  
Pero gusto ko pong liwanagin sa membro ng committee ito,

**[01:19:46.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000590)  
kayo din naman sa ating buting chairperson,

**[01:19:49.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000591)  
na,

**[01:19:51.868] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000592)  
Nung ako po yung nag-assume ng chairmanship ng PAGCOR,

**[01:20:10.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000593)  
ay halos nasa 8 to 10% pa lang po ang legal noon.

**[01:20:15.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000594)  
Pero with our reforms, with the structure that we have set up,

**[01:20:21.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000595)  
medyo nakaangat na po at sa ngayon ang aming pong paniwala ay nasa halos tabla na po 50-50.

**[01:20:29.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000596)  
Pero hindi pa po, Congressman San Fernando, mahinto yung illegal online gaming operators.

**[01:20:38.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000597)  
At ang masama po rito, wala po sa Pilipinas sila.

**[01:20:43.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000598)  
Sila po ay nasa abroad na gumagamit ng mga influencers ng mga kaibigan.

**[01:20:50.440] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000599)  
Kapabayan natin.

**[01:20:50.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000600)  
Thank you, Chair Al. Doon sa paglilinaw na yun.

**[01:20:53.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000601)  
Ngayon, malinaw na po na illegal itong karamihan ng mga online sugal.

**[01:21:00.159] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000602)  
Ano po yung mga pamamaraan para mapanagot natin itong mga content creator

**[01:21:05.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000603)  
na walang habas na makapag-promote ng online sugal?

**[01:21:09.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000604)  
Kasi, Madam Chair, pinag-uusapan natin itong mga content creator na ito.

**[01:21:13.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000605)  
By the millions ang kanilang follower.

**[01:21:16.239] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000606)  
At ina-identify nila, Chair Al, ito pong mga...

**[01:21:20.920] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000607)  
online gaming site.

**[01:21:21.960] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000608)  
Say, for example, 1365, tapos PeriaPlay.

**[01:21:27.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000609)  
So, ito, paano po kaya natin mapapanagot itong mga content creator na ito?

**[01:21:30.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000610)  
Tulad po yung binanggit nyo na yun, hindi po license yun ng PAGCOR.

**[01:21:35.011] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000611)  
Okay.

**[01:21:36.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000612)  
Your Honor, Madam Chairperson, with your permission, I would like to answer this.

**[01:21:41.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000613)  
Congressman San Fernando, Your Honor, gusto ko pong ibigay alam sa inyo,

**[01:21:47.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000614)  
sa pakikipag-ugnayan po ng PAGCOR,

**[01:21:49.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000615)  
sa DICT, sa NTC, at sa CICC.

**[01:21:57.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000616)  
Marami na po kaming, sa pamamagitan nila,

**[01:22:01.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000617)  
ng mga ahensyang nabanggit ko,

**[01:22:04.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000618)  
idinimanda sa Korte.

**[01:22:07.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000619)  
Sapagkat maliwanag po na pinatawag po at kinausap po ng CICC

**[01:22:14.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000620)  
ang mga endorsers na yun at winardigan sila.

**[01:22:19.573] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000621)  
Nahinagpala.

**[01:22:19.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000622)  
Hindi na po sila pwede mag-endorse ng mga illegal or non-PAGCOR licenses.

**[01:22:30.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000623)  
Kaya meron na po silang pangkaso, kung hindi ako nagkakamali,

**[01:22:36.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000624)  
himigit ko buo lang po sa mga labing limang endorsers at top endorsers

**[01:22:41.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000625)  
ang habla na po at ongoing na po yung mga kaso nila.

**[01:22:47.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000626)  
And in fairness,

**[01:22:48.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000627)  
meron pong,

**[01:22:50.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000628)  
magagaling at maraming follower na mga content creators or endorsers

**[01:22:56.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000629)  
ang voluntaryo na pong umatras

**[01:22:59.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000630)  
at hindi na po sila nag-i-endorso ng mga illegal na site.

**[01:23:05.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000631)  
Marami po sa kanila,

**[01:23:06.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000632)  
your honor,

**[01:23:07.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000633)  
lumipat na po sa mga legal operators.

**[01:23:12.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000634)  
So, kami po naman,

**[01:23:14.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000635)  
walang police power,

**[01:23:16.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000636)  
wala po kami magawa kung hindi mag-recommenda lamang

**[01:23:20.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000637)  
sa DICT,

**[01:23:22.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000638)  
sa NTC,

**[01:23:23.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000639)  
gayon din naman sa CICC

**[01:23:26.080] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000640)  
ng mga inaakala naming dapat ay maparusahan.

**[01:23:31.040] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000641)  
Salamat po, Chair Al, dun sa sinabi nyo.

**[01:23:34.000] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000642)  
Kailangan po na mapanagot dahil equally liable

**[01:23:37.280] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000643)  
itong mga content creator at influencer na to

**[01:23:40.480] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000644)  
sa pagkalulong sa sugal

**[01:23:42.840] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000645)  
ng mga manggagawa at ordinaryong Pilipino.

**[01:23:45.520] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000646)  
Before I wind up, Madam Chair,

**[01:23:47.239] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000647)  
gusto ko lang po maitanong,

**[01:23:48.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000648)  
sa corporate operating business,

**[01:23:49.352] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000649)  
Eto ang mga ating budget niyo,

**[01:23:50.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000650)  
ilang porsyento po dito ang nakalaan para sa

**[01:23:54.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000651)  
dun sa mga

**[01:23:54.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000652)  
social harm na tinatawag?

**[01:23:57.851] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000653)  
Opo,

**[01:23:59.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000654)  
ngayon po,

**[01:24:00.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000655)  
sa taong 2026,

**[01:24:02.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000656)  
naging aktibo po ang PAGCOR

**[01:24:05.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000657)  
dito sa game,

**[01:24:09.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000658)  
mga responsible gaming projects po.

**[01:24:12.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000659)  
Ang nakalaan po namin na budget

**[01:24:15.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000660)  
at hindi po kinukuha sa amin mismo,

**[01:24:19.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000662)  
kung hindi sa tulong ng iba't-ibang foundations ng mga kasinos and licenses namin.

**[01:24:28.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000663)  
Meron pong budget na ginagamit una.

**[01:24:33.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000664)  
Gusto kong ibalita at noong isang taon ay hindi pa rin ito nagaganap.

**[01:24:38.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000665)  
Kailan lang ay may 24-7 hotline na po ang PAGCOR.

**[01:24:44.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000666)  
Kung saan, yan po ay makikita nyo na sa maraming billboards all over the country.

**[01:24:51.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000667)  
24-7 hotline kung saan ang mga nalululong po sa sugal ay meron na pong pwedeng tawagan at makonsulta.

**[01:25:01.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000668)  
May partner po ang PAGCOR dyan, ang Seagulls Flock Foundation.

**[01:25:07.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000669)  
Sila po ay may karanasan sa mga rehabilitation ng mga nalulululong.

**[01:25:13.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000670)  
At sa kasalukuyan, aktibo po ito ang meron pong 6 sa bawat 12-hour shift na mga customer agents na sumasagot dito sa hotline na ito.

**[01:25:32.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000671)  
At gusto ko pong ipagbigay alam sa inyo, noong umpisa po ay siguro nahihiya pa yung mga gamers.

**[01:25:40.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000672)  
Pero sa ngayon po, nagtala na kami

**[01:25:44.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000673)  
nitong nakaraang dalawang buwan, nang humigit-kumulang sa isang daang katao,

**[01:25:50.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000674)  
ang amin ang natulungan sa pagbibigay ng advice,

**[01:25:56.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000675)  
meron na pong mga nai-refer sa rehabilitation centers para po nga sa Responsible Gaming Acts.

**[01:26:03.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000676)  
Doon po, your honor, sa mga billboards na nakikita natin,

**[01:26:08.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000677)  
marami na po kayong makikita ngayon na nandyan na po yung hotline.

**[01:26:15.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000678)  
Bukod talagang full billboard, hiningan po natin ng tulong yung ating licenses para po ma-disseminate yung information sa ating mga kababayan.

**[01:26:26.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000679)  
So, patuloy po ang mga programa namin, lalo't higit na, your honor, yung self-exclusion.

**[01:26:36.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000680)  
Ngayon pa lang po, sa panahon ng PAGCOR, na aktibo ngayon,

**[01:26:41.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000681)  
pwede nang ang isang nalululong sa sugal ay pwede nang sumulat sa amin,

**[01:26:49.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000682)  
kasama ang kanyang pamilya, pwede na rin i-request na pagbawalan ang isang kapamilya nila

**[01:26:58.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000683)  
o mismo yung tao na makapagsugal.

**[01:27:02.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000684)  
At gusto ko pong ipagbigay alam sa lahat,

**[01:27:07.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000685)  
15,000 na po ang naaprobahan ng mga,

**[01:27:12.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000686)  
ang PAGCOR in the last year for self-exclusion.

**[01:27:17.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000687)  
Ang ibig sabihin po nito, your honor, sila po, naka-alerto na po ang lahat ng land-based casinos natin

**[01:27:26.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000688)  
at ganyan din po naman yung ating online licenses.

**[01:27:31.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000689)  
Nang sa ganon, hindi po pwede nang makapasok at makapagsugal yung inaprobahan po ng PAGCOR

**[01:27:40.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000690)  
na nag-apply ng tinatawag na self or family exclusion.

**[01:27:47.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000691)  
Yan po, your honor, ay parte ng aming mga programang ginagawa para nga po matulungan natin yung ating mga kababayan na nalululong sa sugal.

**[01:28:01.119] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000692)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[01:28:03.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000693)  
Ito pong mga tinanong ko dahil nabanggit niyo po kanina,

**[01:28:07.400] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000694)  
ang market po kasi ay CDE.

**[01:28:09.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000695)  
Ang pinaka-vulnerable po dito sa pagkalulong sa sugal, lalong-lalo na sa online sugal, ay ang mga manggagawa at ordinaryong Pilipino.

**[01:28:18.679] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000696)  
Totoo po, nasasabihin ng marami na personal na choice kung ikaw ay magsusugal o hindi.

**[01:28:25.199] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000697)  
Pero para sa isang gipit na manggagawa, makikita niya halimbawa si Ivana Alawi, si Vice Ganda, si Vic Soto na magpo-promote ng sugal,

**[01:28:35.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000698)  
aakalain nila na pwede naman pala kaming magsugal para lang makatawid dito sa aming bahay.

**[01:28:43.199] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000699)  
Kaya ko po ito pinapatungkulan, Madam Chair,

**[01:28:46.119] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000700)  
dahil napakalaking issue po ang online sugal sa bansa natin.

**[01:28:51.880] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000701)  
Marami po ang nalululong, marami pong mga manggagawa, ang nagsasangla.

**[01:28:57.800] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000702)  
Dating may kotse, ngayon may motor. Dating may motor, hahatakin yung motor.

**[01:29:02.360] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000703)  
So kailangan maging equally liable itong mga influencer, content creator,

**[01:29:07.639] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000704)  
pati na rin yung kanilang mga mother company, yung mga kumpanya na pinopromote nila dahil grabe po ang social harm at social cost ng pagkalulong sa sugal.

**[01:29:18.560] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000705)  
At Madam Chair, natutuwa po ako dahil kaisa po natin ang PAGCOR, binanggit po na merong commitment para sawatahin itong mga online influencer at content creator na nagpopromote,

**[01:29:31.320] Rep. Elijah Rumbaoa San Fernando** (asr-000706)  
walang habas na nagpopromote ng online sugal. Yun lamang po Madam Chair, maraming salamat po.

**[01:29:37.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000707)  
Thank you, Representative San Fernando.

**[01:29:48.239] Committee Secretary** (asr-000708)  
Thank you, Madam Chair. May we acknowledge Deputy Minority Leader Jeremy Jet Nisay, Vice Chair Lolita Javier,

**[01:29:57.040] Committee Secretary** (asr-000709)  
Javier, Deputy Majority Leader Hill Tabarangay Jr. Acosta, Representative Rolando Valeriano,

**[01:30:05.639] Committee Secretary** (asr-000710)  
Vice Chair Jose "Bong" Jr. Teves, Deputy Minority Leader Jesus "Bong" Suntay, Vice Chair Bernadette

**[01:30:13.119] Committee Secretary** (asr-000711)  
Barbers, Deputy Minority Leader Shielo Crissel-Lagman, Representative Mario Cocoy-Salvador, Representative

**[01:30:21.840] Committee Secretary** (asr-000712)  
Liodi Odi-Tariela, Vice Chair Maria Cristina Talavera-Lopez, Representative Citi Amina

**[01:30:26.400] Committee Secretary** (asr-000713)  
DiMaporo, Deputy Majority Leader Mica Gonzalez, Vice Chair Loreto Amante, Vice Chair Arne

**[01:30:34.800] Committee Secretary** (asr-000714)  
Fern-DeBella, and Representative Mica Gonzalez, and also Representative Julius Cesar Vergara.

**[01:30:41.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000715)  
Thank you, Your Honors.

**[01:30:43.119] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000716)  
Thank you, ComSec.

**[01:30:45.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000717)  
May I now move to our next interpellator from the majority?

**[01:30:49.199] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000718)  
Representative?

**[01:30:50.199] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000719)  
Representative Bong Teves Jr.

**[01:30:57.159] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000720)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[01:31:00.360] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000721)  
Madam Chair, fellow colleagues, PAGCOR family, headed by Chairman Alejandro Tengco, pleasant

**[01:31:09.858] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000722)  
good morning.

**[01:31:14.719] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000723)  
Mr. Chair, ay Madam Chair, meron ba tayong breakdown ng income ng PAGCOR?

**[01:31:24.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000724)  
Your Honor, meron ka nandun po sa ating ulat.

**[01:31:30.000] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000725)  
Hindi ko siya mabasa rito eh.

**[01:31:31.840] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000726)  
But anyway, pakibigyan na lang ako.

**[01:31:33.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000727)  
And then, nasa page 4 po, upper portion, nandun po yung comparable results of operations for 2025,

**[01:31:45.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000728)  
which was actual, Your Honor, 2026 estimated po, sapagkat kalahati ang palamputay ng taon,

**[01:31:53.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000729)  
at saka yung projected po for 2027.

**[01:31:56.840] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000730)  
No, I need the breakdown ng income ng PAGCOR.

**[01:32:01.840] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000731)  
Parang example, STL, magkano ba na kukontribute ng STL sa atin?

**[01:32:06.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000732)  
Hindi po sa amin ng STL, Your Honor.

**[01:32:08.679] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000733)  
Ay, ay, ay, sorry, sorry.

**[01:32:10.287] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000734)  
Sa PCS, o po yun, Your Honor.

**[01:32:11.560] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000735)  
Yung sa online gaming, magkano ba na kukontribute natin?

**[01:32:17.494] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000736)  
Hindi.

**[01:32:19.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000737)  
Opo.

**[01:32:20.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000738)  
We will furnish you one.

**[01:32:22.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000739)  
But from the gaming operations po, in page 4, kung inyo pong makikita,

**[01:32:30.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000740)  
ang estimated po,

**[01:32:31.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000741)  
ay kulang 80 billion pesos.

**[01:32:35.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000742)  
Halos sa ngayon po, Your Honor, nakalalamang na ng konti yung online gaming.

**[01:32:41.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000743)  
So, halos sabihin na po natin, tabla siya sa around 50% po,

**[01:32:47.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000744)  
ay nagmumula sa land-based casinos, at 50% po, ay nagmumula sa online gaming.

**[01:32:56.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000745)  
So, kung titignan nyo po yung ulat,

**[01:33:00.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000746)  
halos 40 billion pesos po, ang inaasahang maging kita ng online gaming,

**[01:33:07.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000747)  
at pagkatapos po naman, 40 billion din po, ang maging kita ng land-based casino licenses po natin, Your Honor.

**[01:33:17.199] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000748)  
Okay.

**[01:33:19.520] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000749)  
Based sa report, 2024 is 111 billion tayo, diba?

**[01:33:25.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000750)  
Tama po, Your Honor.

**[01:33:27.040] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000751)  
And then, based sa report, 2025 is 165.

**[01:33:30.299] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000752)  
166 billion.

**[01:33:31.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000753)  
Yes, Your Honor.

**[01:33:32.800] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000754)  
Bumaba tayo.

**[01:33:34.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000755)  
Bumaba po ito dahil effective po noong 2025, pinagbawal na po yung POGO.

**[01:33:42.060] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000756)  
POGO, yes.

**[01:33:42.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000757)  
Opo.

**[01:33:44.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000758)  
Ayan po ay nawalam po tayo.

**[01:33:46.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000759)  
Projected for 2025, mga 10 billion piso po ang nawala po sa atin noon, Your Honor.

**[01:33:54.280] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000760)  
Ano ang paraan para bumalik natin ito?

**[01:33:57.560] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000761)  
Meron ba tayong mga naisip na pamamaraan na po?

**[01:33:59.920] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000765)  
Meron ba tayong mga naisip na pamamaraan ng PAGCOR para bumalik ang nawawala na pamalit ng POGO?

**[01:34:03.760] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000768)  
Pero legal?

**[01:34:06.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000771)  
Sa ngayon po, talagang nagkoconcentrate po ang PAGCOR, Your Honor sa...

**[01:34:14.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000772)  
...pagpapalakas ng online gaming.

**[01:34:18.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000773)  
Sapagkat, sa pangkasalukuyan,

**[01:34:19.808] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000774)  
nasa sa 50% lang po ang nakaka-capture na market natin,

**[01:34:21.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000775)  
...nasa sa 50% lang po ang naka-capture na market natin,

**[01:34:27.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000776)  
Ang tinutukoy ko po, limampung porsyento po ng industriya ng online gaming ay legal, limampung porsyento po ay iligal.

**[01:34:38.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000777)  
So, doon po, ang aming mga programa talaga ay papano mahikayat yung mga iligal na maging legal.

**[01:34:49.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000778)  
Sapagat sabi ko nga eh, because of the advances of technology, napakahirap na po talagang maalis itong online gaming.

**[01:34:57.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000779)  
Eh, ang aming po ang kinukonsentratan ngayon is papano mahikayat.

**[01:35:03.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000780)  
At maganda naman po ang nagiging resulta, meron na po ilang malalaking iligal na online gaming operators na gusto na po mag-apply sa PAGCOR ng lisensya.

**[01:35:16.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000781)  
So, una pong hakbang yan.

**[01:35:18.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000782)  
Pangalawa po, pinalalakas din po ng PAGCOR ngayon yung tinatawag na Special Class BPO.

**[01:35:26.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000783)  
Kung saan?

**[01:35:28.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000784)  
Ang ating pong bansa ay kilalang napakalakas sa industriya ng business processing outsourcing.

**[01:35:39.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000785)  
Eh, nakita po namin, Your Honor, marami pong backroom operations ng malalaking mga land-based operations at online gaming operations abroad.

**[01:35:52.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000786)  
Ang pwede pong dito na sa Pilipinas magkaroon ng backroom operations.

**[01:35:58.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000787)  
Gusto ko pong bigay na halimbawa ang isa sa pinakamalaking kasino sa buong mundo, MGM.

**[01:36:08.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000788)  
Nandito na po ang backroom operations nila, Your Honor, sa Pilipinas.

**[01:36:13.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000789)  
At dito na po ang kanilang HR, accounting, at saka yung mga graphics design ginagawa.

**[01:36:21.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000790)  
Meron pong humigit kumulang dalawang milyong, eh, dalawang libong empleyadong Pilipino na po.

**[01:36:29.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000791)  
At bukod po ron, tinatarget po namin na ito ay palakasin ng sa ganon, una, makapagdagdag po ng trabaho sa ating kapwa Pilipino na nangangailangan ng trabaho sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[01:36:46.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000792)  
As a BPO worker, hindi po ito sumesweldo ng minimum wage.

**[01:36:52.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000793)  
Ang sweldo po nito ay nasa sa range ng P35,000 to P50,000.

**[01:36:58.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000794)  
At pangalawa, meron pong additional revenue ang PAGCOR sapagkat ibat-ibang uri po ng fees ang nakukulikta namin sa kanila.

**[01:37:10.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000795)  
So, inaasahan ko po na by 2026, meron pong humigit kumulang mga 2.5 hanggang 3 billion piso po

**[01:37:24.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000796)  
ang maaring umakyat na revenue.

**[01:37:31.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000797)  
So, yun po ang pang-neutralize natin dito sa nangyayaring paghina ng land-based operations at saka ng online gaming po, Your Honor.

**[01:37:43.360] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000798)  
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[01:37:48.000] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000799)  
Madam Chair, tulad ng sinabi ni Congressman Ili ng Manggagawa,

**[01:37:59.400] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000800)  
maraming kabataan ang nalululong sa online, hindi lang kabataan.

**[01:38:03.560] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000801)  
Ano ba ang mga proseso natin para mabawasan ito?

**[01:38:06.400] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000802)  
Or, ano ang dapat natin gawin?

**[01:38:10.119] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000803)  
Kasi meron akong nakikita rito,

**[01:38:12.560] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000804)  
isa sa mga income ng PAGCOR at isa sa mga initiative ng PAGCOR

**[01:38:18.360] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000805)  
na ginagawa ninyo ay magpagawa ng mga school building.

**[01:38:26.599] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000806)  
Nakalagay dito, nationwide school building program.

**[01:38:30.040] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000807)  
Okay?

**[01:38:30.360] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000808)  
Okay.

**[01:38:32.000] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000809)  
Nakikita yung inyong mga tarpulin na gawa ng PAGCOR

**[01:38:37.440] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000810)  
ng mga estudyante, kabataan, elementary and high school.

**[01:38:42.280] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000811)  
Sasabi nila, ay, galing sa PAGCOR yung school building namin, magtataya kami sa online.

**[01:38:48.159] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000812)  
Yes. Kasi iba yung produkto ng pag-iisip ngayon.

**[01:38:50.920] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000813)  
Di ba nakikita natin ngayon?

**[01:38:52.960] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000814)  
Nakita lang natin sa mga TV, kung saan-saan,

**[01:38:57.520] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000815)  
na yung social media natin, napakabilis.

**[01:39:01.199] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000816)  
Nagdala-dala ng mga baril yung kabataan.

**[01:39:02.520] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000817)  
Namamaril na namamaral.

**[01:39:04.159] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000818)  
Namamaril.

**[01:39:04.800] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000819)  
Ganun din ang nakikita ko rito.

**[01:39:06.639] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000820)  
Bakit hindi natin palitan ito ng mga programa na mga katulong pa?

**[01:39:11.880] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000821)  
May suggestion na, Madam Chair,

**[01:39:15.440] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000822)  
bakit instead of school building program ang ilagawa natin,

**[01:39:20.040] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000823)  
bakit hindi natin sundin yung gusto nang mangyari ng ating Pangulo

**[01:39:24.520] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000824)  
during SONA, na sinabi niya magpapagawa siya ng maraming evacuation center

**[01:39:30.280] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000825)  
na mas efektibo.

**[01:39:32.119] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000827)  
Kaysa makikita ng mga kabataan na yung pala school building gawa ng PAGCOR

**[01:39:37.960] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000828)  
galing sa sugal ng online, tataya kami.

**[01:39:40.800] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000829)  
Siguro, pag-alala natin ito.

**[01:39:42.960] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000830)  
Baka sakaling mas magandang evacuation center na lang ang ipagawa natin

**[01:39:47.119] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000831)  
sa mga typhoon prone area na talaga namang kailangan ngayon

**[01:39:51.080] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000832)  
at binanggit ito ng ating Pangulo during SONA.

**[01:39:55.560] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000833)  
At pangalawa, wala po akong nakikita rito na pundo

**[01:40:01.000] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000834)  
para sa information.

**[01:40:02.080] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000835)  
Dissemination program sa mga schools, elementary and high schools

**[01:40:07.159] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000836)  
para ang pagsusugal ay hindi tama, lalong-lalong na sa kabataan

**[01:40:13.040] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000837)  
para ma-prevent natin sila.

**[01:40:14.800] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000838)  
Prevention ang kailangan natin.

**[01:40:16.800] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000839)  
Kasi hindi lang namang po matatanda o may edad

**[01:40:21.400] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000840)  
ang mga nagsusugal, kundi kabataan.

**[01:40:23.599] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000841)  
Maraming kabataan na nagsusugal ngayon.

**[01:40:26.719] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000842)  
Kinakikita nyo sa iba-iba, lalo sa Metro Manila.

**[01:40:29.599] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000843)  
Bakit?

**[01:40:30.280] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000844)  
Kasi nakikita ko po rito,

**[01:40:32.639] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000845)  
itong information dissemination.

**[01:40:33.679] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000846)  
Napakaganda po ng programa natin.

**[01:40:36.040] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000847)  
Meron, namimigay tayo ng transport vehicle sa mga pasyente,

**[01:40:42.360] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000848)  
mga food packs during a calamity.

**[01:40:45.159] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000849)  
Bakit instead of school building,

**[01:40:47.560] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000850)  
ang gawin na lang natin ay evacuation center na lang.

**[01:40:51.520] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000851)  
At idagdag natin ang information dissemination campaign

**[01:40:55.480] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000852)  
sa mga eskwilahan, magdagdag tayo ng pundo.

**[01:40:58.199] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000853)  
It's my suggestion, Mr. Chair.

**[01:41:01.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000854)  
Your Honor, we will take note of your suggestions.

**[01:41:06.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000855)  
Yes, we do not have, but maybe,

**[01:41:10.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000856)  
gusto ko lang pong banggitin dito.

**[01:41:13.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000857)  
Isa po talaga sa programa ng PAGCOR,

**[01:41:16.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000858)  
yung pagpapatuloy na magpagawa ng mga evacuation centers.

**[01:41:19.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000859)  
Pero it has been overcome by the memorandum of agreement

**[01:41:23.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000860)  
that we have signed with the Department of Education.

**[01:41:27.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000861)  
Dahil, tunay po nana,

**[01:41:29.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000862)  
Napakalaki din ang backlog ng mga classrooms natin, Your Honor.

**[01:41:33.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000863)  
Kaya minarapat na rin po ng Administrasyon pangasulukuyan na talagang ito o not,

**[01:41:41.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000864)  
bigyan na ng pansin yung pagpapagawa ng mga eskwelahan.

**[01:41:44.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000865)  
Pero we will consider your suggestions and, Your Honor, we will see how we can balance your suggestion with our current programs.

**[01:41:58.199] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000866)  
Thank you, Madam Chair. Lastly, what is the status of PAGCOR Casino Privatization Initiatives?

**[01:42:05.920] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000867)  
Paano natin itong magiging efektibo sa ating revenue at sa pagkakawala ng maraming trabano?

**[01:42:14.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000868)  
Salamat po sa katanungan niyo, Congressman Odi.

**[01:42:19.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000869)  
Sa pangasulukuyan po ay iniintay na lang po ng PAGCOR ang desisyon ng GCG.

**[01:42:27.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000870)  
Or yung Governance Commission for GOCCs na isumiti na po namin ang aming mga datos na hiningi nila.

**[01:42:38.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000871)  
At sila po bilang nasa sa ilalim kami ang siyang magre-rekomenda sa tanggapan ng Pangulo

**[01:42:46.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000872)  
yung pagpapatuloy po ng tinatawag na privatization or decoupling.

**[01:42:51.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000873)  
Ang balita ko po ay baka po hindi marating ang last quarter.

**[01:42:58.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000874)  
Magkaroon na po ng desisyon tungkol dito.

**[01:43:02.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000875)  
Tunay po kasing napakabigat na rin ang kargan ng Casino Filipino, Your Honor.

**[01:43:08.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000876)  
Dahil sa panahon pong ako ay nanunungkulan sa PAGCOR,

**[01:43:14.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000877)  
napanglaki na po ng lugi ng Casino Filipino branches po namin.

**[01:43:21.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000878)  
Kaya wala na po talagang dapat gawin kung hindi.

**[01:43:25.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000879)  
I-unload na po ito sa pribadong sektor.

**[01:43:28.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000880)  
So, we are just waiting for the recommendation of GCG to the Office of the President.

**[01:43:36.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000881)  
And as I said, we were told it will be coming out very soon.

**[01:43:42.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000882)  
Tungkol naman po sa maapekto ang mga empleyado,

**[01:43:46.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000883)  
ako po ay imikot na halos sa lahat ng ating mga Casino Filipino sites sa buong Pilipinas.

**[01:43:53.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000884)  
At pinaliwanag ko po sa lahat ng empleyado maapekto ham.

**[01:43:58.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000885)  
Na una, yung kanila pong retirement ay babayaran.

**[01:44:04.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000886)  
Pangalawa, bukod po sa regular retirement, magkakaroon po ng tinatawag na special incentive package.

**[01:44:12.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000887)  
Kung saan, because of the involuntary nature of the retirement,

**[01:44:18.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000888)  
magkakaroon po ng karagdagang retirement package aside from retirement.

**[01:44:23.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000889)  
Di normal retirement package ang isang maapekto hang empleyado ng PAGCOR.

**[01:44:30.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000890)  
Dito sa nasabing decoupling privatization na ito.

**[01:44:36.880] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000891)  
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam Chair, thank you very much.

**[01:44:41.840] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000892)  
At ang TJP Partylist, pakunguna po ni Vice Chairman ng Appropriation at ng Deputy Majority of Bung Tebes

**[01:44:50.560] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000893)  
ay palaging sumusuporta sa PAGCOR.

**[01:44:53.239] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000894)  
Thank you very much.

**[01:44:54.100] Rep. Jose "Bong" J. Teves Jr.** (asr-000895)  
Panaming salam.

**[01:44:55.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000896)  
Panaming salamat din po, Your Honor.

**[01:45:02.159] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000897)  
Thank you very much, Representative Bong Teves.

**[01:45:04.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-000898)  
We'll now move to our next interpellator from the minority, Representative Sarah Elago.

**[01:45:11.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000899)  
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning.

**[01:45:14.599] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000900)  
A few clarificatory questions on the nationwide school building program,

**[01:45:18.639] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000901)  
notwithstanding, of course, the concerns raised by our fellow legislators.

**[01:45:24.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000902)  
The initial funding stated here is 1.37 billion pesos.

**[01:45:28.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000903)  
Is this for the year? O kasama na po yung for next year din?

**[01:45:38.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000904)  
Your Honor, baka po, anong page po ba yan?

**[01:45:43.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000905)  
Ganito po yan.

**[01:45:45.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000906)  
In our memorandum of agreement with the Department of Education

**[01:45:50.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000907)  
signed by myself and Secretary Sunny Angara,

**[01:45:55.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000908)  
we will be funding the construction of 125 buildings

**[01:46:02.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000909)  
and 3-story, 12-classroom school buildings,

**[01:46:08.446] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000910)  
the total amount of which,

**[01:46:11.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000911)  
including the equipment and furnitures like the chairs,

**[01:46:16.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000912)  
will be roughly about 7.5 billion pesos.

**[01:46:20.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000913)  
So that will be the equivalent of about 1,500 classrooms.

**[01:46:30.501] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000914)  
They are...

**[01:46:31.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000915)  
They will be equipped...

**[01:46:32.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000916)  
I mean, they will have furnitures already,

**[01:46:35.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000917)  
like the student chairs and tables.

**[01:46:38.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000918)  
They will have the 75-inch TVs in every classroom

**[01:46:44.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000919)  
and meron pong amplifier yung teacher and so on and so forth.

**[01:46:50.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000920)  
So that program, Your Honor, will be for the period 2026 up to the end of 2027.

**[01:47:00.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000921)  
We will be...

**[01:47:01.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000922)  
It will be the Department of Education that will be vetting and recommending

**[01:47:07.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000923)  
the school building that will be constructed

**[01:47:11.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000924)  
and it will be PAGCOR through the different LGUs that will be funding the construction.

**[01:47:18.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000925)  
So for this year, as the process has already started,

**[01:47:24.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000926)  
we have earmarked close to about 3.5 billion pesos

**[01:47:29.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000927)  
to pay for the construction of the school buildings.

**[01:47:30.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000928)  
For the 50% down payment that we will release

**[01:47:34.871] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000929)  
to the different local government units

**[01:47:38.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000930)  
and then there will be a series of progressive billing payments

**[01:47:43.159] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000931)  
that we will make dependent on the completion of every school building.

**[01:47:54.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000932)  
Yes, Madam Chair.

**[01:47:54.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000933)  
We'll just request PAGCOR to submit to this committee a breakdown

**[01:47:59.119] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000934)  
of the...

**[01:48:02.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000935)  
utilization of these funds for the nationwide school building program.

**[01:48:07.679] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000936)  
So malinaw po, no?

**[01:48:09.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000937)  
DepEd ang mag-be-vet, mag-identify, magkitiyak kung saan po mapupunta

**[01:48:14.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000938)  
itong mga classrooms na dagdag na nais nating magawa.

**[01:48:17.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000939)  
Maliwanag po yun, Your Honor.

**[01:48:19.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000940)  
At kanina ngayon may mga nagtatunong,

**[01:48:21.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000941)  
pati po sa bidding, wala pong pakialam ang PAGCOR.

**[01:48:26.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000942)  
Ang PAGCOR po ay magpo-pondo lamang.

**[01:48:30.377] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000943)  
There are so many requirements between the Department of Education

**[01:48:35.734] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000944)  
and the local government unit concerned.

**[01:48:39.883] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000945)  
PAGCOR basically collates all of them.

**[01:48:43.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000946)  
And between myself and the LGU or the district concerned,

**[01:48:52.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000947)  
meron po memorandum of agreement.

**[01:48:54.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000948)  
And then we shall release the first funds

**[01:48:59.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000949)  
of the budget to the respective LGUs who will take charge of the bidding process.

**[01:49:09.644] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000950)  
Okay, Chair.

**[01:49:09.952] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000951)  
Your Honor.

**[01:49:10.904] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000952)  
Yes.

**[01:49:11.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000953)  
Yung pondo po natin magagaling dito sa Fund for Social Civic Projects.

**[01:49:15.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000954)  
Yes, Your Honor.

**[01:49:16.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000955)  
Is this correct?

**[01:49:17.199] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000956)  
Yes, Your Honor.

**[01:49:18.566] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000957)  
Alright.

**[01:49:18.880] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000958)  
Now let me go to the...

**[01:49:21.080] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000959)  
I'd like to follow through on questions

**[01:49:24.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000960)  
with regard to the regulation on gambling ads.

**[01:49:26.599] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000961)  
Nabanggit niyo po kanina na meron,

**[01:49:28.239] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000962)  
kayong mga napatawa ng fines.

**[01:49:32.639] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000963)  
Nabanggit niyong halimbawa,

**[01:49:34.075] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000964)  
one million pesos.

**[01:49:35.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000965)  
Pero for the past months,

**[01:49:38.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000966)  
nasinimulan niyo po itong mas mahigpit ninyo na regulation,

**[01:49:41.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000967)  
magkano na yung buong nakolekta?

**[01:49:43.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000968)  
At saan yung ginagamit ito?

**[01:49:47.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000969)  
Ang nakolekta na po namin since 2026,

**[01:49:51.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000970)  
meron na po sigurong mayigit isandang milyong piso.

**[01:49:56.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000971)  
Ito po, it forms part of the other income.

**[01:49:58.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000972)  
As stated in our statement.

**[01:50:02.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000973)  
At yan po ay nasasama po sa corporate income natin.

**[01:50:09.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000974)  
Kung saan that is distributed as listed in our presentation, Your Honor.

**[01:50:15.679] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000975)  
Nabanggit niyo rin kanina na meron na tayong mga nakasuhan.

**[01:50:21.159] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000976)  
Pwede ba kaming humingi ng listahan ng mga nakasuhan niyo na

**[01:50:25.159] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000977)  
at kung meron na bang nanagot,

**[01:50:27.599] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-000978)  
meron na bang nasuspindi,

**[01:50:29.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000979)  
meron na bang nakansela ang license dahil dito sa stricter rules ninyo?

**[01:50:35.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000980)  
Your Honor, binanggit ko po kanina,

**[01:50:39.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000981)  
yung nakasuhan ay hindi po nagmula sa PAGCOR.

**[01:50:44.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000982)  
Ang nagkaso po laban dito sa mga nababanggit kanina pang mga endorsers or influencers

**[01:50:51.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000983)  
ay nagmula po sa CICC.

**[01:50:54.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000984)  
Kami po ay naguulat sa kanila,

**[01:50:57.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000985)  
at sila po ang nagpa-file ng kaso laban sa mga influencers na ito.

**[01:51:06.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000986)  
Ang pagkakaalam ko po, halos simigit kumulang po yata yung labing dalawa or labing lima na yung na-file na nila ng kaso.

**[01:51:13.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000987)  
So, sa inyong kahilingan, Your Honor,

**[01:51:16.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000988)  
hihingi po kami ng listahan mula sa CICC

**[01:51:21.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000989)  
which we can forward to the Committee on Appropriations.

**[01:51:25.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000990)  
So, all the members are updated.

**[01:51:27.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000991)  
Dito po sa isinasagawang operasyon, laban po dito sa mga endorsers na ito.

**[01:51:34.796] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000992)  
Alright.

**[01:51:35.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000993)  
Meron bang mas pinalakas din na hakbang para habulin naman itong foreign gambling companies na illegal ho na nag-operate dito?

**[01:51:44.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000994)  
Kasi you mentioned only for the local endorsers, influencers, but what about those companies?

**[01:51:52.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000995)  
Tulad po ng nabanggit ko kanina, Your Honor, wala po kaming police powers.

**[01:51:58.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000996)  
So, we are dependent on DICT, CICC, and NTC.

**[01:52:04.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000997)  
Sila po, alam ko eh, nakipag-ugnayan na rin sa lahat ng social media platforms.

**[01:52:11.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000998)  
Sumulat na po sila sa mga pinuno nito para ipagbigay alam na hindi pinahintulutan dito sa ating bansa yung mga nasabing gawain na yon.

**[01:52:24.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-000999)  
Ang balita ko po eh, personal nang sumulat,

**[01:52:27.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001000)  
ang ating DICT Sekretary, Sekretary Henry Aguda, sa mga heads na rin ng mga social media platforms na yon para ipagbigay alam yung nasabing ating mga batas dito.

**[01:52:44.199] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001001)  
Okay, maraming salamat. We'll follow this through with the DICT and CICC.

**[01:52:48.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001002)  
Yes, Your Honor.

**[01:52:49.719] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001003)  
Now, Madam Chair, with regard to the 24-7 National Problem Gambling Helpline,

**[01:52:54.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001004)  
nakakasimula lang at nararapat lang na meron talagang takbo.

**[01:52:57.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001005)  
Yung mga kababayan natin na may gambling-related issues and concerns.

**[01:53:02.520] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001006)  
Pero para sa taong ito at sa susunod na taon,

**[01:53:05.639] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001007)  
nabanggit nyo kanina na meron kayong partner na non-profit.

**[01:53:09.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001008)  
Pero sa bahagi naman ng pamahalaan,

**[01:53:12.199] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001009)  
meron ba tayong proposed din na budget para matiyak na meron tayong regular at sustenido na pondo

**[01:53:19.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001010)  
para sa pagpapatakbo mismo at pagpapanatili ng helpline na ito?

**[01:53:26.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001011)  
Your Honor,

**[01:53:27.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001012)  
with regard to a budget coming from the national government,

**[01:53:31.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001013)  
I am not aware that there is one.

**[01:53:34.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001014)  
But I just want to state this to the committee,

**[01:53:39.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001015)  
that PAGCOR will definitely make sure that these initiatives continue to be practiced.

**[01:53:47.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001016)  
And I am committing here under my administration,

**[01:53:52.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001017)  
hindi po mahihinto ang programang ito.

**[01:53:55.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001018)  
Hindi naman po napakalaking.

**[01:53:56.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001019)  
Halaga, Your Honor.

**[01:53:58.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001020)  
Kaya makakaasa po kayo na baka hindi na natin kailangan pang ipaabot ito sa national agencies

**[01:54:07.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001021)  
sapagkat naniniwala po ako, Your Honor,

**[01:54:10.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001022)  
na kaya po na mapondohan ito ng PAGCOR katulong mismo yung mga legal licenses natin

**[01:54:20.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001023)  
sa pamamagitan po ng mga foundations.

**[01:54:23.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001024)  
Gusto ko pong ipagbigay alam,

**[01:54:25.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001025)  
bago rin pong initiative ng PAGCOR,

**[01:54:29.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001026)  
dati po kasi ang may foundation lamang ay yung mga integrated resources natin.

**[01:54:36.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001027)  
2% po ng gross gaming revenue nila ay inalalaan sa mga iba't ibang projects

**[01:54:45.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001028)  
na nakatutulong sa health at saka sa sports and education.

**[01:54:54.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001029)  
So ngayon po,

**[01:54:57.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001030)  
we have started, we did replicate that very successful program.

**[01:55:04.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001031)  
Kaya ngayon po, Your Honor,

**[01:55:07.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001032)  
1% po ng gross gaming revenue ng online gaming platforms

**[01:55:13.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001033)  
ay kailangan na rin isantabi nila para sa pagkakawang gawa

**[01:55:18.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001034)  
at para masuportahan lahat ng ating mga responsible gaming projects.

**[01:55:25.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001035)  
So,

**[01:55:26.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001036)  
laking bagay po nun para masustinahan lahat po nitong mga ginagawa natin

**[01:55:32.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001037)  
para nga ma-neutralize itong mga nagaganap na pagkalulong ng ilan sa ating mga kababayan

**[01:55:40.079] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001038)  
dito sa online gambling.

**[01:55:42.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001039)  
Yes, Madam Chair.

**[01:55:43.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001040)  
Magkano ang nakalaan na pondo para rito?

**[01:55:46.079] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001041)  
Katulad ng sinabi niyo, hindi lang helpline ang sakop.

**[01:55:49.280] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001042)  
Meron din para sa support for counseling.

**[01:55:52.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001043)  
Opo.

**[01:55:52.971] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001044)  
You also mentioned prevention and awareness campaign.

**[01:55:55.891] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001045)  
So, how much is allowed?

**[01:55:57.051] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001046)  
It's allotted for this.

**[01:55:57.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001047)  
Your Honor, sa ngayon po eh,

**[01:55:59.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001048)  
humigit kumulang sa isandang medium piso po sa isang taon

**[01:56:03.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001049)  
ang nakabudget sa iba't ibang uri ng mga programa natin for responsible gaming.

**[01:56:10.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001050)  
At kung idadagdag nyo pa, Your Honor,

**[01:56:14.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001051)  
pwede tayong kumuha nga doon ng budget

**[01:56:18.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001052)  
na magmumula po sa foundations ng iba't ibang online gaming.

**[01:56:23.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001053)  
So, companies or operators.

**[01:56:26.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001054)  
So, kung susumahin nyo po, kung meron pong mahigit sandang billion gross gaming revenue

**[01:56:35.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001055)  
na nagmumula sa online gaming, 1% of that will be about A 134 30audsực

**[01:56:41.064] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001056)  
transformative

**[01:56:42.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001057)  
so, this amount can be used by the said operators to help in the responsible gaming projects.

**[01:56:50.646] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001058)  
So, this no so.

**[01:56:52.169] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001059)  
Yung iyon manou na sa dito rito.

**[01:56:53.895] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001060)  
zo'ng magl mount nga dito.

**[01:56:55.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001061)  
social, civic projects po.

**[01:56:58.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001062)  
Tulad po nung inulat din,

**[01:57:00.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001063)  
bibigyan ko kayo halimbawa,

**[01:57:03.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001064)  
yung 2% po na binagkit kong inabutan ko na

**[01:57:06.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001065)  
na nagmumula sa land-based operations,

**[01:57:11.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001066)  
nakapagpatayo po tayo ng isang

**[01:57:14.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001067)  
Children's Specialty Hospital sa Clark.

**[01:57:16.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001068)  
At yung pera po na yun ay nagmula

**[01:57:19.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001069)  
doon sa foundation ng integrated resort natin.

**[01:57:23.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001070)  
Ang naging kapartner po natin doon

**[01:57:26.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001071)  
ay ang Bloomberry Foundation

**[01:57:28.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001072)  
na mas kilala sa integrated resort

**[01:57:32.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001073)  
na ang pangalan ay Soler.

**[01:57:34.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001074)  
Sila po ay nag-contribute ng

**[01:57:36.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001075)  
may gitisang billion piso

**[01:57:38.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001076)  
para sa pagpapatayo ng ospital.

**[01:57:41.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001077)  
Partner naman po niya ang PAGCOR

**[01:57:44.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001078)  
sapagat ang PAGCOR naman po

**[01:57:45.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001079)  
ang nag-provide ng medical equipment para dito.

**[01:57:49.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001080)  
Kailan lang po ininaguruhan nito?

**[01:57:52.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001081)  
Kung hindi ako nagkakamali,

**[01:57:54.119] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001082)  
huling linggo po ng Hulyo

**[01:57:57.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001083)  
nitong 2026.

**[01:57:58.599] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001084)  
Your Honor.

**[01:57:59.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001085)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:58:00.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001086)  
mahingi na lang po tayo muli ng breakdown

**[01:58:02.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001087)  
nung pagkakagastusan natin ng 100 million pesos.

**[01:58:07.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001088)  
Madam Chair, pang huling tanong po,

**[01:58:08.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001089)  
kasama na ba dito halimbawa

**[01:58:10.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001090)  
kung nangangailangan ng treatment

**[01:58:13.719] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001091)  
sa gambling addiction?

**[01:58:15.560] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001092)  
Meron bang dagdag na support?

**[01:58:17.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001093)  
Lalo lalo na nabanggit nyo kanina

**[01:58:19.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001094)  
na malaking percentage din

**[01:58:21.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001095)  
ng mga gumagamit.

**[01:58:23.719] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001096)  
Hindi lang nakarehistro pero yung active,

**[01:58:25.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001097)  
na users ay nanggaling sa mga

**[01:58:27.719] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001098)  
low income at minimum wage

**[01:58:30.119] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001099)  
earners at workers natin.

**[01:58:31.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001100)  
Meron bang ganong tulong

**[01:58:33.599] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001101)  
para sa kanila? Dahil Madam Chair,

**[01:58:35.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001102)  
na-recognize na rin po ng World Health Organization

**[01:58:38.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001103)  
na isang public health hazard

**[01:58:41.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001104)  
ang hindi lang po exposure

**[01:58:43.360] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001105)  
pero yung active na

**[01:58:47.119] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001106)  
gambling.

**[01:58:48.000] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001107)  
Kaya ho,

**[01:58:49.719] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001108)  
nangangailangan talaga, hindi lang sa PAGCOR.

**[01:58:52.639] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001109)  
Sinabi nyo may

**[01:58:53.800] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001110)  
sariling source, may income na pwede

**[01:58:55.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001111)  
din gamitin pero naniniwala

**[01:58:57.920] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001112)  
tayo na nangangailangan

**[01:58:59.679] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001113)  
ito ng komprehensibo

**[01:59:01.639] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001114)  
at multi-agency na

**[01:59:03.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001115)  
approach para matiyak na

**[01:59:05.760] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001116)  
natutugunan natin kung ano man yung

**[01:59:07.639] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001117)  
mga issue na sumusulpot mula dito

**[01:59:09.719] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001118)  
habang nandyan naman yung stricter

**[01:59:11.679] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001119)  
natin na regulatory frameworks

**[01:59:13.480] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001120)  
and systems pero at the same time

**[01:59:15.840] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001121)  
kung paano rin natin nababawasan

**[01:59:18.079] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001122)  
at napiprevent

**[01:59:19.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001123)  
yung maaari na

**[01:59:22.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001124)  
harm mula po sa gambling.

**[01:59:25.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001125)  
Your Honor,

**[01:59:26.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001126)  
tulad ng binanggit ko kanina

**[01:59:28.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001127)  
ang katulong po namin

**[01:59:29.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001128)  
sa pagpapatakbo

**[01:59:31.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001129)  
ng 24-7 hotline

**[01:59:33.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001130)  
ay ang Seagulls

**[01:59:36.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001131)  
Flock Foundation.

**[01:59:37.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001132)  
Ito po yung isang non-profit

**[01:59:39.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001133)  
organization na

**[01:59:41.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001134)  
may karanasan po, Your Honor,

**[01:59:44.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001135)  
hindi lang sa

**[01:59:47.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001136)  
pagtatraining ng

**[01:59:47.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001137)  
mga customer service agents

**[01:59:50.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001138)  
na sumasagot

**[01:59:51.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001139)  
sa 24-7 hotline

**[01:59:54.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001140)  
ng PAGCOR.

**[01:59:54.613] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001141)  
hotline ng PAGCOR, pero sila po meron di kanalasan sa rehabilitasyon

**[02:00:00.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001142)  
at meron po tayong ka-tie-up ng mga gambling rehabilitation centers all over the Philippines.

**[02:00:08.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001143)  
At sila po sa Seagulls Flock ang nagre-rekomenda sa PAGCOR kung saan ba nararapat ipadala

**[02:00:17.400] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001144)  
yung may problemang naglalaro na sinasabi po natin, Your Honor.

**[02:00:23.040] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001145)  
Okay, maraming salamat Madam Chair. At higin na rin po natin yung pinakahuling ulat

**[02:00:27.440] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001146)  
pagdating dito sa pagsasagawa natin ng mas pinalakas na helpline para sa ating mga kababayan

**[02:00:33.320] Rep. Sarah Jane I. Elago** (asr-001147)  
ang 24-7 National Problem Gambling Helpline. Maraming salamat Madam Chair.

**[02:00:38.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001148)  
Maraming salamat din po, Your Honor.

**[02:00:40.679] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001149)  
Thank you very much, Representative Elago. We'll consolidate the whole list of the documentary requests

**[02:00:48.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001150)  
to PAGCOR and then we'll follow up.

**[02:00:52.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001151)  
We'll follow up with them later on. Thank you.

**[02:00:54.599] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001152)  
We'll move to our next interpellator from the majority, Representative Salvador Pleyto.

**[02:01:02.500] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001153)  
Good morning, Madam. Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:01:03.760] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001154)  
Sa ating colleagues and our esteemed guests, Chairman Alteco, sa ating PAGCOR family,

**[02:01:17.898] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001155)  
magandang umaga po sa ating lahat.

**[02:01:20.058] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001156)  
Dalawang tanong lang po, Madam Chair.

**[02:01:25.400] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001157)  
I reported that the total revenues, I don't know kung tama yung akin o yung sinabi ni Chairman kanina,

**[02:01:33.254] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001158)  
Chairman Mika, ng first half of 2026,

**[02:01:34.891] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001159)  
nag-decline ng 26.64%,

**[02:01:39.310] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001160)  
while PAGCOR's net income ay bumaba o nag-fail ng 85.29%.

**[02:01:43.614] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001161)  
Tama po ba ito, Chairman Al?

**[02:01:48.310] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001162)  
Yes, Your Honor. Tama po yung binanggit nyo.

**[02:01:51.709] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001163)  
Tulad po ng aking pagpapaliwanag earlier,

**[02:01:52.781] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001164)  
kung ano po yung mga kadahilanan ng pagbaba na yun sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[02:01:59.123] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001165)  
Madam Chair, Chairman Al, in light of this significant decline,

**[02:02:07.662] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001166)  
ano po, what concrete measures will PAGCOR implement to reverse this trend

**[02:02:13.709] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001167)  
and increase gross gaming revenue to JGR, particularly sa electronic at online gaming sector?

**[02:02:19.323] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001168)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:02:21.972] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001169)  
Your Honor.

**[02:02:23.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001170)  
Your Honor, tulad po nung naiulot ko kanina,

**[02:02:30.910] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001171)  
una, malakas po ang programa namin ngayon sa paghihikayat sa mga iligal na operator

**[02:02:39.303] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001172)  
na magpalisensya na.

**[02:02:41.950] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001173)  
Dahil ang paniwala ko po sa pangkasalukuyan sa industriya,

**[02:02:47.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001174)  
50% po ang may lisensya,

**[02:02:54.035] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001175)  
50% din po ang walang lisensya.

**[02:02:55.807] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001176)  
So, very positive naman, Your Honor, ang aming programa

**[02:03:00.835] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001177)  
sapagkat meron na po kaming mga natatanggap ng mga feelers

**[02:03:05.790] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001178)  
para mag-surrender na ang ilang malalaking iligal na magpalisensya na po sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[02:03:12.344] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001179)  
So, number one po yun.

**[02:03:15.669] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001180)  
Number two, tulad nung binanggit ko kanina sa katanungan ni Congressman Odi earlier,

**[02:03:29.069] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001181)  
aming pong minomonitor ng husto ang income na or GGR or operations ngayon

**[02:03:36.270] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001182)  
ng mga online gaming companies sa pamamagitan ng isang third-party auditor.

**[02:03:42.179] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001183)  
Doon po ay aming nakikita kung tunay pang nairimit nila or dinideklara nila yung tama nilang gross gaming revenue.

**[02:03:52.861] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001184)  
At gusto ko pong ibalita sa inyo,

**[02:03:57.502] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001185)  
malaki na rin po ang naging pagtaas ng mga gross gaming revenue ng online gaming operators

**[02:04:05.790] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001186)  
dahil naalaman nila at nakikita nilang nakatutok ang isang third-party auditor.

**[02:04:16.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001187)  
At panghuli po ay nag-ikayat kami na sana'y marami pang mag-apply dito sa special class BPO

**[02:04:26.730] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001188)  
kung saan po yung mga nasa ibang bansa na mga malalaking operator ay gamitin na ang Pilipinas

**[02:04:35.673] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001189)  
bilang kanilang mga backroom operations ay dito na gawin sa Maynila.

**[02:04:44.887] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001190)  
Very encouraging, Your Honor, Kong Ador, itong binabanggit ko sapagkat sa ngayon po eh,

**[02:04:52.709] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001191)  
nasa sa nung linunsad po namin yung programa, two-fold po,

**[02:04:55.062] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001192)  
bukod sa may karagdagang kita sa PAGCOR, may himigit kumulang po sa 7,500 empleyado na

**[02:05:07.567] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001193)  
ang nasabing sektor nito na hindi nagbabayad ng minimum wage,

**[02:05:13.790] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001194)  
kundi nagbabayad ng mga rates ng customer service agents ng mga BPO.

**[02:05:19.651] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001195)  
So this amounts to an average of...

**[02:05:23.969] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001196)  
35,000 to 45,000 pesos a month.

**[02:05:26.510] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001197)  
So yun po ang aming ginagawa sa pangkasulukuyan,

**[02:05:29.538] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001198)  
and we're also hoping, Your Honor, Kong Ador,

**[02:05:34.111] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001199)  
na dumating yung pagkakataon na matapos na rin yung crisis sa Middle East,

**[02:05:38.937] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001200)  
nang sa ganun eh, medyo pag nakaluwag-luwag naman sila eh,

**[02:05:44.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001201)  
ang tao eh, marami na rin ang magpe-patronize ng ating mga naroon.

**[02:05:46.531] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001202)  
Thank you, Chairman Al, for that response.

**[02:05:57.348] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001203)  
Specifically, what is PAGCOR's strategy in terms of improving its regulatory framework,

**[02:06:04.047] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001204)  
expanding the legitimate gaming market, strengthening its digital monitoring and collection system,

**[02:06:09.790] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001205)  
and addressing illegal and unlicensed operators,

**[02:06:15.033] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001206)  
and also attracting responsible investment into the Philippine gaming industry.

**[02:06:20.146] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001207)  
Okay.

**[02:06:23.500] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001208)  
Doon po sa katanungan ninyo, Your Honor, una,

**[02:06:28.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001209)  
sa structure po, wala pong sawa kaming nagre-review ng aming structures and guidelines regularly

**[02:06:38.185] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001210)  
para nang sa ganun ma-improve ito.

**[02:06:43.467] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001211)  
Yan po ay patutunayan ng updated structure ng online gaming rules ng PAGCOR.

**[02:06:56.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001212)  
Halos po buwan-buwan, meron po kaming mga adjustments na ginagawa

**[02:07:00.730] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001213)  
para ito po ay matama at maging ma-responsive sa pangkasulukuyang sitwasyon.

**[02:07:11.530] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001214)  
Number two, kami po ay patuloy na dumalabas at nagsasabi,

**[02:07:20.990] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001215)  
nag-a-attend sa mga konbensyon, ngayon din naman ang mga exhibits abroad,

**[02:07:30.002] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001216)  
at nagsasabing bukas ang Pilipinas sa paglilesensya ng land-based casinos,

**[02:07:33.738] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001217)  
ngayon din naman ng ating online gaming.

**[02:07:40.870] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001218)  
Hindi man dapat sabihin, pero pwede na rin ipagmalaki na dito po sa Asia,

**[02:07:45.213] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001219)  
ay next to Macau.

**[02:07:53.414] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001220)  
Halos we are competing.

**[02:07:55.490] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001221)  
Head to head na with Singapore.

**[02:07:56.975] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001222)  
And I believe, malaking bagay po itong darating na privatization,

**[02:08:02.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001223)  
sapagkat pagdakailam na po at ang nagpatakbo na po ng mga kasino

**[02:08:06.982] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001224)  
na sa pangkasulukuyan ay pinapatakbo ng PAGCOR,

**[02:08:10.510] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001225)  
naniniwala po ko it will be a game changer.

**[02:08:15.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001226)  
Sapagkat pag ang pribadong sektor na ang nagpapatakbo ng negosyo,

**[02:08:19.958] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001227)  
iba na po ito eh.

**[02:08:23.485] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001228)  
Eh sa pangkasulukuyan, your honor, we cannot compete head on with our licenses.

**[02:08:32.229] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001229)  
Yung kasino Filipino, your honor, wala man lang kaming kwarto na mga hotel na inalok.

**[02:08:39.432] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001230)  
Wala kaming mga restaurants, wala kaming mga mall, wala kaming mga prebileyong maipagkaloob.

**[02:08:44.819] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001231)  
Dahil wala namang yung mga properties natin.

**[02:08:47.792] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001232)  
Na ganitong facilities.

**[02:08:53.950] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001233)  
Pero pag ang kasino Filipino po at itong mga properties natin ay na-privatize na,

**[02:09:00.819] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001234)  
naniniwala po ako, yung bibili ng pribadong kumpanya,

**[02:09:03.750] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001235)  
eh magagawa na ng hakbang yan para lumakas ang kanilang kasino.

**[02:09:09.672] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001236)  
At pag lumakas ang kasino, sapagkat tayo ay mga umalik tala lang ng license fees,

**[02:09:15.663] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001237)  
tatas din rin automatic ang income ng PAGCOR.

**[02:09:19.549] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001238)  
Kaya yan po ang mga pangkasulukuyang mga ginagawa namin.

**[02:09:26.950] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001239)  
At hopefully nga, pagka ito pong decoupling privatization ay maganap na,

**[02:09:29.300] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001240)  
malaki po ang magiging epekto nito sa kita ng PAGCOR.

**[02:09:34.394] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001241)  
Dagdag pa ron, Congressman Pleyto,

**[02:09:41.397] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001242)  
eh masakit man sabihin, ang average po namin na pasweldo sa tao ay mahigit isang billion piso sa isang buwan.

**[02:09:50.712] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001243)  
Tapos ang average na binabayad namin sa upa ng mga kasino properties namin,

**[02:09:55.350] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001244)  
mahigit 250 million piso isang buwan.

**[02:09:58.981] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001245)  
Eh yun lang po, maalis natin sa corporate expense ng PAGCOR,

**[02:10:05.377] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001246)  
na parang naking bagay na po na ito para lang sa ganun,

**[02:10:13.910] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001247)  
maitulong yan ng PAGCOR sa nation building at sa ating kapwa mamamayang Pilipino.

**[02:10:18.927] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001248)  
Maraming salamat, Chairman Al.

**[02:10:21.813] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001249)  
Salamat po naman, Your Honor.

**[02:10:23.011] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001250)  
At Madam Chair, pwede ba yung remaining time ko,

**[02:10:25.976] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001251)  
bigay ko sa aking kaibigan, kay Congressman Dumugan,

**[02:10:29.963] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001252)  
kasi napakarami namang nangyaring mga nasirang infrastruktura doon sa Koldilyera,

**[02:10:37.912] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001253)  
lalo ng Baguio-Binguet, sa infrastructure, saka agriculture.

**[02:10:42.907] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001254)  
Ito po, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair, I would like to place on record,

**[02:10:48.589] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001255)  
that despite the significant decline in its gross gaming revenues and net income,

**[02:10:54.109] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001256)  
PAGCOR has continued to fulfill its social responsibility.

**[02:10:57.349] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001257)  
Gusto ko pa sa salamatan ng mga taga PAGCOR.

**[02:11:01.030] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001258)  
May sincere appreciation yung binanggit kanina ni Assistant President Balcos, si Eric,

**[02:11:08.236] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001259)  
tungkol po doon sa JBL, Children's Medical Center, in Clark, Pangpanga,

**[02:11:13.189] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001260)  
which was recently inaugurated by our beloved President Bongbong Marcos.

**[02:11:19.154] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001261)  
Ito po.

**[02:11:21.483] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001262)  
Ito po ay this very important investment for those children needing specialized medical care.

**[02:11:24.250] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001263)  
Napakaganda po ito.

**[02:11:26.444] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001264)  
Salamat kami mga taga Central Luzon, lalo na ang Bulacan, malapit doon,

**[02:11:30.342] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001265)  
at yung mga taga Central Luzon.

**[02:11:32.367] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001266)  
Saka lahat po tayo, kasi para sa mga batang mga isakit,

**[02:11:38.870] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001267)  
napakaganda hindi na tayo pupunta ng Manila, doon na lang tayo sa Clark.

**[02:11:44.310] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001268)  
We've also seen PAGCOR.

**[02:11:46.042] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001269)  
Ito ay totoo po naman po ito.

**[02:11:47.062] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001270)  
Yung mga pangangailangan sa Mindanao,

**[02:11:50.103] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001271)  
nung nangyari yung mga typhoons and earthquakes, recent earthquakes in Mindanao,

**[02:11:52.533] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001272)  
itong mga typhoons na nangyari dahil sa monsoon, south-west monsoon, itong habagat,

**[02:11:59.924] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001273)  
alam ko ang PAGCOR, they continue to affect many parts.

**[02:12:06.809] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001274)  
PAGCOR once again stands ready to provide assistance in our disaster-stricken communities.

**[02:12:11.467] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001275)  
At the time, Madam Chair, when government resources are stretched

**[02:12:16.990] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001276)  
by the increasing free...

**[02:12:19.041] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001277)  
frequency and severity of natural disasters, this commitment is truly commendable.

**[02:12:27.109] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001278)  
It demonstrates that PAGCOR's role goes beyond gaming and revenue generation.

**[02:12:31.936] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001279)  
It is also an institution that contributes to nation building, ang sabi mo kanina, and

**[02:12:36.719] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001280)  
provides meaningful support when our people need it most, especially those who have lost

**[02:12:41.639] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001281)  
their homes, livelihoods, and sense of security because of the calamities.

**[02:12:43.960] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001282)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:12:44.760] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001283)  
Thank you, Chairman Al.

**[02:12:48.052] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001284)  
Thank you, Representative Pleyto.

**[02:12:50.212] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001285)  
Chair Al, would you like to respond?

**[02:12:53.249] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001286)  
Okay po.

**[02:12:55.190] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001287)  
Maraming salamat din po, Congressman Pleyto, sa inyong mga binanggit.

**[02:13:02.986] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001288)  
Makakaasa po kayo na patuloy pong kasama ninyo ang PAGCOR sa pakikipagtulungan sa ating mga kababayan.

**[02:13:09.095] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001289)  
Salamat po.

**[02:13:09.972] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001290)  
Maraming salamat.

**[02:13:11.491] Rep. Salvador A. Pleyto** (asr-001291)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:13:12.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001292)  
Thank you, Representative Pleyto.

**[02:13:14.199] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001293)  
We'll now move to our next interpellator from the minority.

**[02:13:18.400] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001294)  
Representative Iris Marie Montes.

**[02:13:20.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001295)  
Thank you, Madam Chair. Magandang umaga po sa ating lahat.

**[02:13:25.159] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001296)  
Mr. Chair, Madam Chair, RA 11223 or the Universal Health Care Act was enacted on February 20, 2019.

**[02:13:36.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001297)  
Section 37B of that law provides that 50% of the 50% national government share from the income of PAGCOR will be used by PhilHealth for its benefit package.

**[02:13:53.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001298)  
Also in the same law, it provided that remittance from PAGCOR should have started in 2020 or one year after the enactment of the law.

**[02:14:06.119] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001299)  
My first question is, was PAGCOR able to comply with this provision?

**[02:14:10.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001300)  
Kailan po kayo nag-umpisang mag-remit sa National Treasury for UHC?

**[02:14:22.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001301)  
Madam Chairperson, I'd like to answer.

**[02:14:25.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001302)  
Your Honor, from the implementation of the said Republic Act, PAGCOR has religiously remitted its shares to the national government.

**[02:14:40.212] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001303)  
Now, as I had also clarified this in one of the hearings in the Senate, it is not the responsibility of PAGCOR to remit directly to PhilHealth.

**[02:14:51.597] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001304)  
Yes.

**[02:14:52.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001305)  
Because the law states...

**[02:14:52.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001306)  
states that we remit

**[02:14:55.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001307)  
and then it is the

**[02:14:56.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001308)  
national government that will remit

**[02:14:59.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001309)  
50% of what

**[02:15:00.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001310)  
we attributed to

**[02:15:02.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001311)  
the PhilHealth.

**[02:15:05.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001312)  
In answer to your question,

**[02:15:07.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001313)  
Your Honor, yes,

**[02:15:10.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001314)  
PAGCOR has

**[02:15:11.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001315)  
remitted religiously

**[02:15:13.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001316)  
and as of

**[02:15:15.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001317)  
today, we are current

**[02:15:17.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001318)  
and wala po kaming

**[02:15:18.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001319)  
pagkukulang noong sa nasabing

**[02:15:20.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001320)  
remittance na iyo.

**[02:15:22.360] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001321)  
Maraming salamat po. So, religiously

**[02:15:24.719] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001322)  
meaning compliant with the

**[02:15:26.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001323)  
provision of the law one year after its

**[02:15:28.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001324)  
enactment. So, I suppose it's 2020

**[02:15:30.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001325)  
ano po. Based kasi po

**[02:15:33.079] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001326)  
dito sa inyong presentation

**[02:15:34.719] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001327)  
handout, tinignan nyo

**[02:15:36.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001328)  
lang po ang present lang

**[02:15:38.559] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001329)  
2023, 2024, 2025.

**[02:15:40.599] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001330)  
So, out of, from this, I

**[02:15:42.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001331)  
understand, yung 50%

**[02:15:44.440] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001332)  
government share for 2023 is

**[02:15:46.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001333)  
34.6 billion. So,

**[02:15:48.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001334)  
half of that,

**[02:15:50.719] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001335)  
17.3,

**[02:15:51.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001336)  
went to the National Treasury for

**[02:15:54.719] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001337)  
PhilHealth. In 2024,

**[02:15:55.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001338)  
46, so 23.1

**[02:15:58.480] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001339)  
and 2025,

**[02:16:00.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001340)  
45, so 22.5.

**[02:16:03.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001341)  
Na po.

**[02:16:06.559] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001342)  
Meron po ba kayong figure

**[02:16:07.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001343)  
as to your total remittance

**[02:16:10.400] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001344)  
to the National Treasury

**[02:16:11.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001345)  
since the time you said you

**[02:16:13.719] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001346)  
religiously

**[02:16:16.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001347)  
remitted to the National Treasury?

**[02:16:18.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001348)  
Meron po kayong

**[02:16:19.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001349)  
total break, total.

**[02:16:22.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001350)  
We, we, your honor,

**[02:16:24.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001351)  
we do not have it right now, but

**[02:16:26.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001352)  
we can submit to

**[02:16:27.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001353)  
the committee our

**[02:16:30.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001354)  
remittances. Actually,

**[02:16:33.519] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001355)  
now that I

**[02:16:34.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001356)  
remember, we, we have

**[02:16:36.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001357)  
remit, we remit

**[02:16:37.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001358)  
on a monthly basis

**[02:16:39.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001359)  
and kasi po

**[02:16:45.519] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001360)  
monthly po ang remittance namin

**[02:16:47.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001361)  
sa National Treasury, your honor eh.

**[02:16:49.679] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001362)  
So, that means

**[02:16:52.399] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001363)  
monthly din dapat

**[02:16:53.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001364)  
ay nai-remit.

**[02:16:55.322] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001365)  
Yes po. Supposedly, ang hinihingidag

**[02:16:58.089] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001366)  
po ng batas na provision, quarterly

**[02:16:59.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001367)  
remittance.

**[02:17:02.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001368)  
So, yun po yung tinatanong ko

**[02:17:03.639] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001369)  
na timely manner, meaning

**[02:17:05.319] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001370)  
quarterly remittance. But if you're

**[02:17:07.559] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001371)  
remitting monthly, then mas

**[02:17:09.519] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001372)  
maganda po. So, Madam Chair,

**[02:17:11.639] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001373)  
may I just request that

**[02:17:13.599] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001374)  
this representation be provided

**[02:17:16.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001375)  
with the listing

**[02:17:17.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001376)  
of all the remittances of

**[02:17:19.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001377)  
PAGCOR to the National Treasury

**[02:17:21.519] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001378)  
since the loss enactment up to present

**[02:17:23.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001379)  
to indicate also,

**[02:17:25.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001380)  
the total remittances.

**[02:17:28.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001381)  
We will do that, your honor,

**[02:17:29.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001382)  
and we will submit

**[02:17:31.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001383)  
the said request

**[02:17:33.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001384)  
to the committee so that

**[02:17:35.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001385)  
the committee chairperson

**[02:17:37.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001386)  
may forward

**[02:17:39.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001387)  
such report to you, ma'am.

**[02:17:41.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001388)  
Pakiusap ko po lang, Chair, sana po

**[02:17:43.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001389)  
medyo asap because

**[02:17:45.479] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001390)  
I am planning to use that

**[02:17:47.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001391)  
in the plenary deliberations

**[02:17:49.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001392)  
of the DBM

**[02:17:51.120] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001393)  
and the DOF.

**[02:17:53.679] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001394)  
Pwede po bang maipag-re-enable?

**[02:17:57.519] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001395)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:17:59.679] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001396)  
That's very quick.

**[02:18:01.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001397)  
At kung kaya naman po, before that,

**[02:18:02.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001398)  
we will do that. Basta maximum na po

**[02:18:04.719] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001399)  
yung 48 oras.

**[02:18:06.359] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001400)  
Maraming maraming salamat po.

**[02:18:08.399] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001401)  
Wala pong anuman, your honor.

**[02:18:10.479] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001402)  
Sige po, moving on po to my next concern.

**[02:18:13.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001403)  
Linawin ko lamang po, patuloy

**[02:18:15.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001404)  
pa rin po tayong effort natin

**[02:18:16.679] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001405)  
to privatize yung ating

**[02:18:18.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001406)  
mga PAGCOR.

**[02:18:21.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001407)  
I know it's a long-standing

**[02:18:22.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001408)  
plan of PAGCOR to

**[02:18:25.639] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001409)  
remain as

**[02:18:26.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001410)  
regulatory, no? Regulatory

**[02:18:28.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001411)  
na lang po yung role. So,

**[02:18:30.240] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001412)  
there were plans on selling

**[02:18:33.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001413)  
your, what do you call that?

**[02:18:34.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001414)  
The Casino Filipinos, no?

**[02:18:36.319] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001415)  
So, roughly po, mga

**[02:18:38.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001416)  
40 branches po ba yan? And it

**[02:18:40.399] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001417)  
will, that move is expected

**[02:18:42.679] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001418)  
to generate about 30 to

**[02:18:44.399] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001419)  
50 billion in proceeds

**[02:18:46.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001420)  
should it be privatized. Tama po ba?

**[02:18:48.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001421)  
Ano po ang exact figures natin?

**[02:18:51.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001422)  
Your honor,

**[02:18:52.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001423)  
sa definitely

**[02:18:54.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001424)  
as I mentioned earlier in

**[02:18:56.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001425)  
one of the answers to

**[02:18:58.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001426)  
the previous questions,

**[02:19:01.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001427)  
we are just

**[02:19:02.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001428)  
awaiting for the

**[02:19:05.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001429)  
recommendation of

**[02:19:06.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001430)  
the GCG or the

**[02:19:08.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001431)  
Governance Commission for

**[02:19:11.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001432)  
GOCCs to the Office

**[02:19:12.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001433)  
of the President. And as I had

**[02:19:14.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001434)  
mentioned earlier, we were told

**[02:19:16.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001435)  
it's going to happen soon.

**[02:19:19.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001436)  
So, we're

**[02:19:20.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001437)  
awaiting that.

**[02:19:22.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001438)  
Yes, if we get the

**[02:19:24.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001439)  
approval coming from the Office

**[02:19:26.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001440)  
of the President,

**[02:19:28.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001441)  
close to about

**[02:19:30.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001442)  
30, high 30s

**[02:19:32.679] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001443)  
of our Casino

**[02:19:34.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001444)  
Filipino properties in

**[02:19:36.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001445)  
number will be privatized.

**[02:19:39.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001446)  
And

**[02:19:40.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001447)  
we are looking at anywhere

**[02:19:42.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001448)  
between

**[02:19:44.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001449)  
20 to 30 billion.

**[02:19:47.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001450)  
With the

**[02:19:48.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001451)  
current situation,

**[02:19:51.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001452)  
bumaba po

**[02:19:52.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001453)  
ang revenue.

**[02:19:54.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001454)  
That means also

**[02:19:56.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001455)  
the valuation will go down.

**[02:19:58.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001456)  
So, nabanggit ko naman,

**[02:20:01.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001457)  
hindi lang po naman sa Pilipinas,

**[02:20:02.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001458)  
buong mundo po talagang

**[02:20:04.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001459)  
apektado nitong nangyayari mga

**[02:20:06.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001460)  
crisis na ito. So,

**[02:20:08.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001461)  
we can only commit

**[02:20:10.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001462)  
that we will be

**[02:20:14.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001463)  
letting go of these

**[02:20:16.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001464)  
properties at the best possible

**[02:20:18.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001465)  
price.

**[02:20:19.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001466)  
My concern, Madam Chair, is that

**[02:20:22.399] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001467)  
kapag nag-privatize, siyempre maa-apek.

**[02:20:25.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001468)  
yung ating

**[02:20:26.960] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001469)  
income stream for PhilHealth.

**[02:20:29.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001470)  
Kapag po ba ito na-privatize

**[02:20:30.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001471)  
natin, yung proceeds from

**[02:20:32.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001472)  
privatization, magkakaroon

**[02:20:34.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001473)  
pa rin ba doon sa

**[02:20:36.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001474)  
total na nabanggit nyo?

**[02:20:38.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001475)  
Will PhilHealth get a share out of that?

**[02:20:41.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001476)  
Well,

**[02:20:42.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001477)  
clearly, Ma'am,

**[02:20:44.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001478)  
Your Honor,

**[02:20:48.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001479)  
pagdating din po ng

**[02:20:50.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001480)  
period of adjustment,

**[02:20:51.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001481)  
hindi ko po nakikitang

**[02:20:54.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001482)  
bababa po yung share.

**[02:20:55.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001483)  
Sapagkat, kung mababawasan

**[02:20:57.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001484)  
na po yung gastos natin

**[02:20:59.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001485)  
ng PAGCOR sa empleyado

**[02:21:01.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001486)  
lamang at gayon din

**[02:21:03.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001487)  
sa mga upang binabayaran

**[02:21:05.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001488)  
nito at ang kalakit na

**[02:21:07.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001489)  
gastos tulad ng

**[02:21:09.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001490)  
pagbabayad ng mga utilities,

**[02:21:11.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001491)  
halimbawa na 24-7,

**[02:21:13.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001492)  
nakabukas ang aircon, nakabukas

**[02:21:15.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001493)  
ang ating

**[02:21:18.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001494)  
kuryente, ang ilaw.

**[02:21:20.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001495)  
So, sa nakikita po

**[02:21:21.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001496)  
at pag-aaral namin, pag ito

**[02:21:23.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001497)  
po ay talagang nawala na,

**[02:21:26.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001498)  
sa gastos ng PAGCOR,

**[02:21:28.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001499)  
mananatili pong

**[02:21:30.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001500)  
mataas ang kikitahin

**[02:21:32.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001501)  
ng PAGCOR. So, that being

**[02:21:34.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001502)  
the case, mandando po na

**[02:21:36.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001503)  
50% ng aming kitay

**[02:21:37.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001504)  
pupunta rin sa National Treasury

**[02:21:40.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001505)  
kagad, eh, naniniwala po

**[02:21:41.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001506)  
akong in the medium term,

**[02:21:44.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001507)  
baka hindi lang po pumantay

**[02:21:45.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001508)  
sa pangkasalukuyan, may higit

**[02:21:48.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001509)  
ang panya yung

**[02:21:49.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001510)  
nasabing tulong na

**[02:21:53.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001511)  
nairimit po

**[02:21:53.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001512)  
ng PAGCOR sa National Treasury.

**[02:21:56.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001513)  
Sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[02:21:57.200] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001514)  
But how about po yung proceeds sa privatization?

**[02:22:00.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001515)  
Ang proceeds po ng privatization

**[02:22:02.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001516)  
ay hindi po lahat

**[02:22:04.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001517)  
naman pupunta sa National Government

**[02:22:06.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001518)  
dahil meron pong malaking

**[02:22:07.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001519)  
gastos kami, which is the retirement,

**[02:22:10.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001520)  
the cost of retirement

**[02:22:12.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001521)  
of our employees.

**[02:22:13.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001522)  
So, that will be

**[02:22:15.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001523)  
running into billions

**[02:22:17.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001524)  
of pesos. So,

**[02:22:20.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001525)  
what will happen,

**[02:22:22.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001526)  
Your Honor, kung ano man po

**[02:22:24.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001527)  
yung matitira dun,

**[02:22:25.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001528)  
sa pinagbentahan,

**[02:22:28.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001529)  
yung po ay

**[02:22:29.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001530)  
kalahati po nun, i-remit muli

**[02:22:31.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001531)  
ng PAGCOR

**[02:22:34.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001532)  
sa National Treasury.

**[02:22:36.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001533)  
Meaning, PhilHealth

**[02:22:39.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001534)  
will still get the 50%.

**[02:22:40.571] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001535)  
Definitely.

**[02:22:41.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001536)  
Maraming maraming salamat po.

**[02:22:43.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001537)  
Moving on to my next question, Madam Chair,

**[02:22:45.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001538)  
nabanggit na po kanina,

**[02:22:47.399] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001539)  
I remember, I heard,

**[02:22:49.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001540)  
meron ka pong pronouncement before

**[02:22:52.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001541)  
na parang

**[02:22:55.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001542)  
PAGCOR launched,

**[02:22:58.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001543)  
the agency

**[02:22:59.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001544)  
launched a new

**[02:23:00.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001545)  
flagship project.

**[02:23:03.280] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001546)  
At kasama po dito yung

**[02:23:04.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001547)  
school buildings, yung e-learning

**[02:23:07.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001548)  
centers, community wellness centers,

**[02:23:09.319] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001549)  
and social civic centers,

**[02:23:11.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001550)  
parang evacuation centers.

**[02:23:13.359] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001551)  
Is that part of the JMC

**[02:23:15.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001552)  
01 series of 2024

**[02:23:17.359] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001553)  
memorandum po ninyo?

**[02:23:19.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001554)  
Opo. Nagkaroon na po

**[02:23:21.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001555)  
ng malaking

**[02:23:22.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001556)  
pagbabago sa kadahilan

**[02:23:25.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001557)  
ng Your Honor,

**[02:23:26.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001558)  
na kami po ay pinakiusapan

**[02:23:28.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001559)  
ng administrasyon

**[02:23:30.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001560)  
na tumulong sa

**[02:23:32.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001561)  
pagpapatayo ng mga classrooms.

**[02:23:34.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001562)  
So, we realigned

**[02:23:37.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001563)  
our budget

**[02:23:39.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001564)  
for

**[02:23:41.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001565)  
the said infrastructure

**[02:23:42.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001566)  
projects like

**[02:23:44.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001567)  
community wellness centers,

**[02:23:47.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001568)  
evacuation centers,

**[02:23:49.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001569)  
e-libraries,

**[02:23:50.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001570)  
yun po ngayon,

**[02:23:51.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001571)  
ay realign na namin para po

**[02:23:54.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001572)  
maipatupad na ito.

**[02:23:55.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001573)  
Itong 125

**[02:23:58.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001574)  
school building construction.

**[02:24:00.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001575)  
At dito po nakatoon

**[02:24:02.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001576)  
ang lahat ng resources ng

**[02:24:04.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001577)  
PAGCOR sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[02:24:06.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001578)  
Sa paniniwala pong

**[02:24:08.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001579)  
una, makatutulong tayo

**[02:24:09.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001580)  
sa backlog ng pagpagre-reduce

**[02:24:12.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001581)  
o pag-mimitigate

**[02:24:13.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001582)  
yung backlog natin ng classroom.

**[02:24:15.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001583)  
At more important, ito po ay

**[02:24:18.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001584)  
talagang sa kinabukasan

**[02:24:20.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001585)  
na rin ng ating mga kabataan.

**[02:24:22.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001586)  
Dahil

**[02:24:23.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001587)  
more classrooms would mean

**[02:24:25.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001588)  
better education

**[02:24:27.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001589)  
to our youth.

**[02:24:31.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001590)  
So, yun lang po.

**[02:24:32.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001591)  
So, after po na ma-realize natin

**[02:24:35.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001592)  
itong almost 8 billion na

**[02:24:37.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001593)  
school building at makakonstruct

**[02:24:39.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001594)  
ng

**[02:24:41.279] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001595)  
125 po ba

**[02:24:43.160] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001596)  
na sites and

**[02:24:45.319] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001597)  
1,500 classrooms,

**[02:24:47.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001598)  
pwede po ba natin uli

**[02:24:50.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001599)  
makonsider yung funding

**[02:24:51.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001600)  
for those projects

**[02:24:53.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001601)  
that you supposedly prioritize?

**[02:24:55.640] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001602)  
Under the joint memorandum

**[02:24:57.720] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001603)  
katulad po ng mga wellness centers

**[02:24:59.840] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001604)  
and evacuation centers.

**[02:25:02.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001605)  
Nasa pipeline pa po ba rin

**[02:25:04.040] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001606)  
yan ng PAGCOR?

**[02:25:06.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001607)  
Your Honor,

**[02:25:07.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001608)  
I believe it is very

**[02:25:09.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001609)  
possible.

**[02:25:11.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001610)  
Matapos lang po itong unang batch

**[02:25:14.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001611)  
unless pakikiusapan na naman tayong

**[02:25:16.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001612)  
dagdagan yung

**[02:25:17.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001613)  
125 school buildings.

**[02:25:20.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001614)  
Pero naniniwala po ako

**[02:25:22.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001615)  
na nag-uumpisa na po

**[02:25:24.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001616)  
yung proseso sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[02:25:26.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001617)  
Doon sa procurement

**[02:25:27.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001618)  
ng pagpapagawa nito

**[02:25:30.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001619)  
mga swelahang ito,

**[02:25:31.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001620)  
naniniwala po ako

**[02:25:33.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001621)  
na matatapos po ang karamihan ito

**[02:25:36.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001622)  
sa katapusan ng

**[02:25:37.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001623)  
2027.

**[02:25:39.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001624)  
So, baka po malaki ang

**[02:25:41.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001625)  
posibilidad sa kasagutan

**[02:25:43.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001626)  
sa inyong katanungan

**[02:25:45.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001627)  
na sa 2028

**[02:25:47.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001628)  
ay mag-rebalance kami.

**[02:25:50.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001629)  
I think that will be

**[02:25:51.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001630)  
a better term.

**[02:25:53.569] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001631)  
Tutal,

**[02:25:54.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001632)  
na-achieve na natin.

**[02:25:55.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001633)  
Yung pagpapatayo ng

**[02:26:00.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001634)  
1,500 classrooms,

**[02:26:01.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001635)  
eh, baka sa 2028,

**[02:26:04.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001636)  
nandun pa naman hopefully

**[02:26:05.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001637)  
ang inyong lingkod

**[02:26:07.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001638)  
bilang chairman and CEO,

**[02:26:08.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001639)  
ay makapag-rebalance

**[02:26:10.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001640)  
para nang sa ganon,

**[02:26:13.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001641)  
hindi na ganong karaming

**[02:26:15.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001642)  
classrooms ang itatayo,

**[02:26:17.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001643)  
ipagpatuloy na yung mga

**[02:26:19.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001644)  
dating prioridad tulad ng

**[02:26:21.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001645)  
evacuation center,

**[02:26:23.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001646)  
e-libraries,

**[02:26:24.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001647)  
tsaka wellness center.

**[02:26:26.680] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001648)  
Thank you, Chair Al.

**[02:26:28.359] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001649)  
That's exactly the point

**[02:26:29.520] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001650)  
I was trying to get to.

**[02:26:31.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001651)  
In the event na

**[02:26:33.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001652)  
podohan na natin,

**[02:26:34.479] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001653)  
maybe it would be

**[02:26:36.600] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001654)  
time naman to

**[02:26:39.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001655)  
do a balancing

**[02:26:42.080] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001656)  
decision naman

**[02:26:43.000] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001657)  
para hindi naman nalileft out

**[02:26:45.880] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001658)  
other equally important

**[02:26:47.760] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001659)  
projects that can be funded

**[02:26:49.800] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001660)  
out of PAGCOR income.

**[02:26:51.439] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001661)  
Yun lamang po, Madam Chair.

**[02:26:52.920] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001662)  
Maraming salamat, Chair Al.

**[02:26:54.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001663)  
Maraming salamat,

**[02:26:56.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001664)  
I love your honor sa pagkakataon.

**[02:26:58.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001665)  
Makapagpaliwanag ako sa pagsagot

**[02:27:00.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001666)  
sa inyong mga katanungan.

**[02:27:03.479] Rep. Iris Marie Demesa Montes** (asr-001667)  
Thank you, Chair Al.

**[02:27:04.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001668)  
Thank you, Representative Montes.

**[02:27:06.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001669)  
We'll now move to our next

**[02:27:07.479] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001670)  
interpellator from the majority,

**[02:27:09.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001671)  
Representative Jan

**[02:27:11.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-001672)  
Atty. JP Padiernos.

**[02:27:12.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001673)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:27:12.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001674)  
Good morning to our PAGCOR family

**[02:27:16.680] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001675)  
headed by Chairman Alejandro Tengco,

**[02:27:19.279] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001676)  
and also special mention

**[02:27:23.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001677)  
to our former Congresswoman

**[02:27:25.365] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001678)  
again,

**[02:27:26.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001679)  
So, good morning. May mga konting katanungan lang po, Madam Chair, sa ating PAGCOR. Una po yung ating displacement and mass layoff from casino privatization.

**[02:27:40.640] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001680)  
So, PAGCOR plans to privatize around 40 casino Filipino properties, potentially affecting approximately 10,000 regular and contractual employees.

**[02:27:52.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001681)  
Since asset sale ang structure, hindi automatic na required ang private buyers na i-retain ang existing workforce.

**[02:28:01.920] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001682)  
May proposed 50-70% employee absorption requirement, pero maaari itong makapektos sa valuation at bids dahil sa additional labor costs and liabilities.

**[02:28:13.160] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001683)  
Ang katanungan ko po sa PAGCOR, Madam Chair, is sa privatization ng said 40 casino Filipino properties.

**[02:28:23.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001684)  
Ilan po sa approximately 10,000 employees ang projected na ma-displace or ma-retrench?

**[02:28:30.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001685)  
At kung ang proposed 50-70% employee absorption requirement ay mag-resulta sa lower bids, ano ang magiging priority ng PAGCOR?

**[02:28:41.640] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001686)  
Maximizing privatization proceeds or protecting existing jobs?

**[02:28:46.040] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001687)  
And ano po ang konkretong safeguards para sa mga employees na hindi ma-absorb?

**[02:28:51.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001688)  
Okay.

**[02:28:52.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001689)  
Salamat po sa inyong katanungan, Congressman Padiernos.

**[02:29:00.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001690)  
Una po ay gusto ko lang pong bigyan ng diin na hindi na po natin maaaring talikuran ang privatization.

**[02:29:14.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001691)  
Sa pangkasalukoyan po eh, sa taong ito lang po, ang casino Filipino ay prinoproject na malulugin ng mahigit 6 na bilis.

**[02:29:24.224] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001692)  
Sa 452 billion piso.

**[02:29:26.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001693)  
Magsimula po nang ako'y nanombrehan na maging chairman at CEO ng PAGCOR,

**[02:29:32.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001694)  
meron na pong 15 billion piso ang nalugi sa casino Filipino.

**[02:29:38.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001695)  
So, hindi ko po matatanggap na patuloy na lang na dumugo nang dumugo at malugi ang Casino Filipino

**[02:29:47.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001696)  
para lamang sa ilan libong mga tao compared to...

**[02:29:55.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001697)  
compared to or compared sa mga mamayong Pilipinong matutulungan ng PAGCOR

**[02:30:00.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001698)  
kung yung luging ito ay hindi malugi at maging mas malakas ang PAGCOR

**[02:30:07.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001699)  
at makatulong ito sa mas marami nating kababayan.

**[02:30:12.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001700)  
Ngayon, tungkol po sa measures, una, nabanggit ko na ito kanina,

**[02:30:18.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001701)  
meron pong regular retirement ang lahat ng empleyado na maapektuhan.

**[02:30:27.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001702)  
Dagdag dun sa sagot ko sa inyong katanungan kanina,

**[02:30:32.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001703)  
meron po sigurong hindi bababa sa 6,000 empleyado ang maapektuhan ito.

**[02:30:39.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001704)  
Itong tinatawag na decoupling privatization.

**[02:30:43.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001705)  
So una, bibigyan po natin ng regular retirement.

**[02:30:48.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001706)  
Package.

**[02:30:49.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001707)  
Pero higit doon, sapagkat nagiging involuntary ang kanilang retirement.

**[02:30:54.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001708)  
Hindi naman po nila kagustuhan eh.

**[02:30:57.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001709)  
Ito po ay naganap dahil sa pagkakataon.

**[02:31:01.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001710)  
Meron pong tinatawag, Your Honor, na special incentive package or SIP

**[02:31:08.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001711)  
kung saan, aside from the regular retirement, magkakaroon po sila ng karagdagan na namang

**[02:31:15.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001712)  
ah

**[02:31:17.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001713)  
matatanggap

**[02:31:18.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001714)  
na

**[02:31:18.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001715)  
bayad

**[02:31:19.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001716)  
sapagkat sila ay nagkaroon ng involuntary retirement.

**[02:31:27.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001717)  
Ngayon, doon po sa sinasabing pag-aabsorb nung mga kasinos na privado

**[02:31:34.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001718)  
kung sakaling may bibili,

**[02:31:36.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001719)  
yun po ay definitely ay makikiusap po tayo doon sa bibili

**[02:31:42.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001720)  
to absorb whoever they can absorb.

**[02:31:46.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001721)  
Dahil alam naman natin,

**[02:31:48.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001722)  
wala naman kasinong gusto magsara kahit isang minuto.

**[02:31:52.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001723)  
Kaya on the basis of continuity of business,

**[02:31:57.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001725)  
the most logical on new terms with the employees,

**[02:32:02.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001727)  
mag-absorb sila

**[02:32:04.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001728)  
ng mas marami, mas maigi para sa PAGCOR.

**[02:32:08.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001729)  
Aside from that,

**[02:32:10.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001730)  
we have already started to implement programs

**[02:32:16.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001731)  
at

**[02:32:17.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001732)  
if you do not mind,

**[02:32:18.974] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001733)  
Congressman Padiernos,

**[02:32:20.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001734)  
Your Honor,

**[02:32:21.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001735)  
I could ask our Vice President for Human Resources

**[02:32:25.996] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001736)  
to already

**[02:32:27.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001737)  
ah

**[02:32:28.972] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001738)  
state what programs

**[02:32:31.105] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001739)  
we're already doing para

**[02:32:33.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001740)  
ma-mitigate po yung mga anxiety

**[02:32:35.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001741)  
at yung mga nakikita natin magiging problema

**[02:32:38.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001742)  
dito sa ating mga empleyadong tatamaan ng

**[02:32:43.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001743)  
privatization or decoupling na ito.

**[02:32:46.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001744)  
Gusto ko pong

**[02:32:48.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001745)  
bigyan ng DIN

**[02:32:50.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001746)  
na primary po sa pag-court at sa inyong likod

**[02:32:54.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001747)  
ang mabigyan ng proteksyon

**[02:32:56.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001748)  
ang ating mga empleyado

**[02:32:58.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001749)  
before privatization.

**[02:33:00.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001750)  
So, with your permission,

**[02:33:03.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001751)  
maybe ah

**[02:33:04.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001752)  
I can ask

**[02:33:06.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001753)  
Vice President for HR

**[02:33:08.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001754)  
Lito Domingo

**[02:33:09.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001755)  
to just mention a few of the things

**[02:33:12.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001756)  
that we're already doing

**[02:33:14.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001757)  
to mitigate the

**[02:33:16.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001758)  
anxiety and the

**[02:33:18.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001759)  
whatever

**[02:33:20.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001760)  
thoughts there are with these

**[02:33:22.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001761)  
employees who will be affected.

**[02:33:24.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001762)  
Si Vice President Lito Domingo po.

**[02:33:28.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001763)  
Magandang umaga po, Congressman Padiernos.

**[02:33:30.359] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001764)  
Ma'am, good morning po.

**[02:33:31.920] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001765)  
Just to give you an overview

**[02:33:34.000] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001766)  
of the different training initiatives,

**[02:33:37.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001767)  
we have four different

**[02:33:38.399] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001768)  
categories in the training initiative

**[02:33:40.319] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001769)  
from management training,

**[02:33:42.359] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001770)  
self-development,

**[02:33:44.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001771)  
personality development,

**[02:33:46.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001772)  
and amongst these programs,

**[02:33:48.120] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001773)  
we have already concluded, as of date,

**[02:33:51.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001774)  
including November

**[02:33:52.319] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001775)  
of last year, 5,000

**[02:33:54.200] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001776)  
training initiatives for

**[02:33:56.640] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001777)  
individuals. Yan po yung

**[02:33:58.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001778)  
actual graduates natin.

**[02:34:00.080] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001779)  
From as short as a two or three-day

**[02:34:02.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001780)  
program in-house, we

**[02:34:04.359] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001781)  
proceed to a four or five-day

**[02:34:06.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001782)  
program. Aside from that po,

**[02:34:09.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001783)  
we also are

**[02:34:10.319] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001784)  
proceeding with other gaming-related

**[02:34:12.399] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001785)  
training initiatives, as mentioned by

**[02:34:14.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001786)  
our chairman, especially

**[02:34:16.359] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001787)  
as we move forward towards more

**[02:34:18.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001788)  
technologically advanced

**[02:34:20.920] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001789)  
gaming programs.

**[02:34:23.399] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001790)  
Uumpisahan na po yan.

**[02:34:25.080] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001791)  
Meron po kaming

**[02:34:25.960] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001792)  
ginagawang expanded and specialized

**[02:34:28.359] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001793)  
training. Ano po ito?

**[02:34:30.319] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001794)  
Halimbawa po kayo ay

**[02:34:32.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001795)  
dealer, magkakaroon po ng

**[02:34:35.200] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001796)  
cross-training for slot machine

**[02:34:36.479] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001797)  
so that your

**[02:34:38.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001798)  
competency to be employed

**[02:34:40.359] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001799)  
in the IRs

**[02:34:42.479] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001800)  
or the acquiring entity

**[02:34:44.080] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001801)  
is enhanced. Finally po,

**[02:34:46.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001802)  
we also have initiated,

**[02:34:48.560] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001803)  
as mentioned by our chairman

**[02:34:50.319] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001804)  
again, yung pong alignment namin

**[02:34:52.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001805)  
with the civil service. This is

**[02:34:54.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001806)  
ongoing. We

**[02:34:56.399] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001807)  
in fact proceeded with the

**[02:34:58.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001808)  
initial training of about

**[02:35:00.520] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001809)  
80 to 100 people

**[02:35:03.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001810)  
just the past two

**[02:35:04.120] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001811)  
months. Almost 12 of

**[02:35:06.200] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001812)  
them were registered for an exam. We

**[02:35:08.160] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001813)  
are requesting for

**[02:35:10.080] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001814)  
an additional exemption

**[02:35:12.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001815)  
to do the online exam.

**[02:35:14.520] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001816)  
Ito po ay isang mitigation. May

**[02:35:16.439] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001817)  
measure so that they can be employed

**[02:35:18.399] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001818)  
in other government agencies.

**[02:35:21.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001819)  
We are also working

**[02:35:22.439] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001820)  
on a special

**[02:35:24.800] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001821)  
in-house

**[02:35:26.399] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001822)  
program where CSE will give us

**[02:35:28.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001823)  
all the vacancies so our employees

**[02:35:30.240] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001824)  
can apply to other government

**[02:35:32.319] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001825)  
entities. So continuing

**[02:35:34.479] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001826)  
po yan, we expect to complete

**[02:35:36.279] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001827)  
about 10,000 training

**[02:35:39.399] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001828)  
initiatives by

**[02:35:40.319] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001829)  
end of year and enhance further

**[02:35:42.479] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001830)  
our CSE initiatives.

**[02:35:44.680] PAGCOR Vice President Angelito De Jesus Domingo** (asr-001831)  
Yun po sir. Thank you.

**[02:35:47.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001832)  
Thank you po Madam Chair.

**[02:35:49.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001833)  
At maganda pong narinig natin yun

**[02:35:51.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001834)  
sa ating butihing chairman at sa

**[02:35:54.680] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001835)  
PAGCOR na hindi po nila

**[02:35:55.920] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001836)  
papabayaan. Tama po ba

**[02:35:57.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001837)  
ang commitment nyo to help our

**[02:36:00.479] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001838)  
future

**[02:36:01.560] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001839)  
yung mga matidisplace po ng mga

**[02:36:03.399] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001840)  
empleyado. Pangalawa pong tanong

**[02:36:05.439] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001841)  
na-mention po kasi kanina.

**[02:36:07.560] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001842)  
Yung isa sa mga reasons po

**[02:36:09.319] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001843)  
yung pag-decline po ng revenue is yung

**[02:36:12.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001844)  
pag-restrict ng e-wallet.

**[02:36:15.359] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001845)  
And

**[02:36:16.160] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001846)  
so following the BSP restrictions

**[02:36:17.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001847)  
on direct gambling links in

**[02:36:19.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001848)  
e-wallets, naapektuhan ang

**[02:36:21.840] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001849)  
transactions ng licensed

**[02:36:23.479] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001850)  
e-games operators. At the

**[02:36:25.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001851)  
same time, may players na lumilipat

**[02:36:28.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001852)  
po sa third-party payment

**[02:36:29.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001853)  
channels and unauthorized

**[02:36:31.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001854)  
aggregators. This

**[02:36:33.640] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001855)  
creates additional risks of fraud,

**[02:36:36.680] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001856)  
data theft, and money laundering

**[02:36:38.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001857)  
habang nadidehado naman ang

**[02:36:39.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001858)  
mga legitimate and regulated

**[02:36:42.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001859)  
operators. Ang

**[02:36:43.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001860)  
tanong ko po ay paano po

**[02:36:46.319] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001861)  
balance ng PAGCOR ang

**[02:36:48.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001862)  
BSP restrictions

**[02:36:50.200] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001863)  
on direct e-wallet links

**[02:36:52.319] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001864)  
sa gambling sites

**[02:36:53.880] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001865)  
with the need to support legitimate

**[02:36:55.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001866)  
and regulated e-games operators.

**[02:36:58.439] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001867)  
Especially

**[02:37:00.120] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001868)  
ngayong may players na lumilipat

**[02:37:01.880] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001869)  
po sa mga third-party

**[02:37:03.760] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001870)  
payment channels at unauthorized

**[02:37:05.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001871)  
aggregators na mas exposed

**[02:37:08.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001872)  
po dito sa mga nabanggit ko kanina

**[02:37:09.840] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001873)  
sa fraud, data theft, and money laundering.

**[02:37:13.020] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001874)  
Salamat

**[02:37:14.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001875)  
sa katanungan, Your

**[02:37:16.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001876)  
Honor, Congressman

**[02:37:19.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001877)  
Padiernos. Dahil ito po

**[02:37:20.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001878)  
yung binabanggit ko kanina

**[02:37:22.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001879)  
pa, na

**[02:37:24.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001880)  
ito po mga illegal operators

**[02:37:25.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001881)  
na ito ang siyang malaking

**[02:37:27.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001882)  
problema natin sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[02:37:30.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001883)  
At kami

**[02:37:32.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001884)  
po ay

**[02:37:33.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001885)  
how we are addressing it?

**[02:37:36.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001886)  
We are in constant

**[02:37:37.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001887)  
dialogue with the Bangko Sentral ng

**[02:37:39.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001888)  
Pilipinas.

**[02:37:42.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001889)  
Kami po ay

**[02:37:43.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001890)  
regular na nakikipag-usap at

**[02:37:45.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001891)  
nakikipag-ugnayan sa kanila

**[02:37:47.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001892)  
ng mabigyan ng pansin.

**[02:37:49.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001893)  
At doon po,

**[02:37:52.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001894)  
naiulat na namin

**[02:37:54.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001895)  
sa kanila kung sino

**[02:37:55.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001896)  
yung mga illegal

**[02:37:57.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001897)  
payment aggregators.

**[02:38:00.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001898)  
Naiulat na po namin sa kanila

**[02:38:02.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001899)  
kung sino yung mga

**[02:38:04.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001900)  
illegal na mga payment

**[02:38:05.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001901)  
apps or sometimes even

**[02:38:08.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001902)  
legal payment

**[02:38:09.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001903)  
apps na nagsaserve it.

**[02:38:11.650] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001904)  
Ito yung mga

**[02:38:13.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001905)  
unlicensed online

**[02:38:15.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001906)  
gaming operators.

**[02:38:17.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001907)  
So, very regular po

**[02:38:19.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001908)  
ang aming pakikipag-ugnayan

**[02:38:21.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001909)  
sa Bangko Sentral.

**[02:38:24.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001910)  
At yan po

**[02:38:25.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001911)  
ay hindi namin

**[02:38:29.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001912)  
ihinto dahil

**[02:38:30.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001913)  
yung pong collaboration

**[02:38:31.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001914)  
is a big help.

**[02:38:33.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001915)  
Ngayon,

**[02:38:35.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001916)  
isa din pong ginagawa namin

**[02:38:37.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001917)  
sa pangkasalukuyan

**[02:38:39.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001918)  
ay yung posibilidad po

**[02:38:41.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001919)  
magtayo or

**[02:38:43.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001920)  
mag-launch ng isang

**[02:38:46.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001921)  
PAGCOR app.

**[02:38:47.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001922)  
So, dito po sa PAGCOR app,

**[02:38:50.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001923)  
pagka may

**[02:38:52.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001924)  
PAGCOR app na kayo sa mga telepono

**[02:38:54.089] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001925)  
ninyo,

**[02:38:55.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001926)  
pag pinindot nyo po yung PAGCOR app,

**[02:38:58.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001927)  
bibigay na sa inyo

**[02:38:59.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001928)  
yung listahan

**[02:39:01.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001929)  
ng mga legal

**[02:39:03.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001930)  
na may lisensyang operator.

**[02:39:05.819] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001931)  
So,

**[02:39:08.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001932)  
maproprotektahan ka.

**[02:39:10.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001933)  
Makakasiguro ka

**[02:39:11.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001934)  
na ang linalaro among site

**[02:39:13.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001935)  
ay lisensyado ng PAGCOR.

**[02:39:16.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001936)  
So, again, twofold ito.

**[02:39:18.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001937)  
One,

**[02:39:19.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001938)  
nasusug po natin yung illegal na

**[02:39:22.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001939)  
mga operator.

**[02:39:24.810] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001940)  
Two,

**[02:39:27.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001941)  
naproprotektahan ang bawat

**[02:39:28.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001942)  
kababayan nating

**[02:39:29.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001943)  
maglalaro.

**[02:39:31.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001944)  
Sapagkat ang natitiyak po namin,

**[02:39:34.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001945)  
basta may lisensya

**[02:39:36.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001946)  
ang pinaglalaroan nyo,

**[02:39:37.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001947)  
meron pong process of

**[02:39:39.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001948)  
resolution kung magkakaproblema

**[02:39:41.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001949)  
kayo. Yung issue na

**[02:39:43.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001950)  
hindi nagbabayad ng deposito,

**[02:39:46.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001951)  
hindi nagbabayad ng

**[02:39:47.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001952)  
panalo, eh hindi

**[02:39:49.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001953)  
na mangyayari yun

**[02:39:51.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001954)  
makapaglalaro ka na sa isang

**[02:39:54.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001955)  
legal

**[02:39:55.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001956)  
na

**[02:39:57.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001957)  
operator. Kaya, yun po

**[02:40:00.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001958)  
we're expecting

**[02:40:01.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001959)  
to launch it maybe on the

**[02:40:04.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001960)  
fourth quarter of this year.

**[02:40:06.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001961)  
Malaking bagay po yun.

**[02:40:07.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001962)  
Dahil yun, maging

**[02:40:10.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001963)  
hikaya tayo, we will use these

**[02:40:12.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001964)  
advertisements

**[02:40:13.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001965)  
to let people know that

**[02:40:15.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001966)  
if you really want to patronize

**[02:40:18.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001967)  
your online gaming operator,

**[02:40:20.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001968)  
dito ka na sa PAGCOR

**[02:40:21.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001969)  
app. Para nang sa ganun,

**[02:40:23.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001970)  
pagpindot mo ng PAGCOR app,

**[02:40:25.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001971)  
lilitaw na ron, ikaw nang mamimili

**[02:40:28.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001972)  
kung sino ang

**[02:40:29.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001973)  
gusto mong paglaroan

**[02:40:31.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001974)  
na site. So, yan po ang mga

**[02:40:33.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001975)  
hakbang na ginagawa namin sa

**[02:40:35.340] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001976)  
paglalaro ko yan. At

**[02:40:37.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001977)  
ganun din po, patuloy din po

**[02:40:39.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001978)  
ang pakikipag-ugnayan namin sa

**[02:40:42.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001979)  
DICT,

**[02:40:43.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001980)  
NTC, at sa

**[02:40:45.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001981)  
CICC para

**[02:40:48.049] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001982)  
regularly lang

**[02:40:50.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001983)  
manalalaman kung sino-sino

**[02:40:51.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001984)  
nga ba yung mga

**[02:40:53.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001985)  
nagagamit na payment

**[02:40:55.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001986)  
applications na yan

**[02:40:57.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001987)  
na nagsaservice ng

**[02:40:59.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001988)  
mga hindi

**[02:41:01.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-001989)  
lisensyado ng PAGCOR.

**[02:41:05.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001990)  
Follow-up question.

**[02:41:06.399] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001991)  
Madam Chair,

**[02:41:07.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001992)  
if e-games revenues decline

**[02:41:10.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001993)  
by more than 41%

**[02:41:12.479] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001994)  
in H1 2026,

**[02:41:15.439] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001995)  
ano po ang

**[02:41:16.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001996)  
regulatory response

**[02:41:18.880] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001997)  
sa PAGCOR? Paano ninyo

**[02:41:20.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001998)  
i-recover ang legitimate

**[02:41:22.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-001999)  
e-games sector without simply making

**[02:41:23.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002000)  
gambling easier to access,

**[02:41:26.240] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002001)  
especially for minors

**[02:41:27.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002002)  
and other vulnerable players?

**[02:41:32.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002003)  
Your Honor,

**[02:41:33.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002004)  
as I had mentioned earlier,

**[02:41:36.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002005)  
naghanap na rin kami

**[02:41:37.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002006)  
at nag-aaral na rin

**[02:41:39.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002007)  
na magpatupad ng iba't ibang mga

**[02:41:41.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002008)  
revenue generating

**[02:41:44.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002009)  
programs.

**[02:41:45.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002010)  
Tulad nga po ng SCBPO

**[02:41:48.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002011)  
or yung Special Class BPO.

**[02:41:50.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002012)  
Ayun po,

**[02:41:51.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002013)  
nakikita ko, magsasampa

**[02:41:53.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002014)  
po sa PAGCOR yan

**[02:41:55.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002015)  
pag na-normalize na easily

**[02:41:57.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002016)  
mga 2 to 3 billion pesos.

**[02:42:00.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002017)  
So, these are the measures

**[02:42:02.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002018)  
that we are

**[02:42:04.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002019)  
doing. In short,

**[02:42:06.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002020)  
we are also studying

**[02:42:08.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002021)  
other revenue

**[02:42:10.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002022)  
generating schemes

**[02:42:11.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002023)  
para nang sa ganun, yung

**[02:42:13.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002024)  
nawawala namin sa kaliwang bulsa

**[02:42:16.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002025)  
ay ma-recover naman namin

**[02:42:18.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002026)  
sa kanan na bulsa namin.

**[02:42:20.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002027)  
So, patuloy po ang

**[02:42:21.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002028)  
aming pag-aaral at

**[02:42:24.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002029)  
makikita po natin

**[02:42:26.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002030)  
hopefully sa

**[02:42:28.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002031)  
2027 ay

**[02:42:30.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002032)  
kung meron man decline

**[02:42:33.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002033)  
ma-recover din natin ito.

**[02:42:34.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002034)  
Gusto ko rin pong

**[02:42:36.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002035)  
magbigay muling alam

**[02:42:37.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002036)  
sa inyo, your honor,

**[02:42:39.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002037)  
na itong last month po

**[02:42:42.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002038)  
of July, nakakita

**[02:42:43.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002039)  
po kami ng increase

**[02:42:45.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002040)  
sa revenue ng online gaming.

**[02:42:48.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002041)  
Hindi po sa paghikayat

**[02:42:49.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002042)  
na maglaro ang ating mga kababayan.

**[02:42:51.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002043)  
Kung hindi, marami na po

**[02:42:54.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002044)  
ang limilipat

**[02:42:55.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002045)  
from the illegals to the legal

**[02:42:58.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002046)  
licenses po natin.

**[02:43:01.760] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002047)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:43:03.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002048)  
Next point on

**[02:43:06.200] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002049)  
Pigo platforms

**[02:43:08.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002050)  
or

**[02:43:09.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002051)  
inland gaming operations.

**[02:43:12.680] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002052)  
So, kahit po may

**[02:43:13.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002053)  
KYC requirements or know your

**[02:43:15.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002054)  
customer requirements, kinagamit umano

**[02:43:17.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002055)  
ang pre-verified or

**[02:43:19.560] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002056)  
mule e-wallet accounts para

**[02:43:21.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002057)  
makapasok sa online gaming platforms.

**[02:43:24.840] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002058)  
This

**[02:43:25.760] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002059)  
creates risk

**[02:43:27.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002060)  
involving, again, yung minamensyong ko ay

**[02:43:29.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002061)  
money laundering, fraud, and

**[02:43:31.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002062)  
access by minors.

**[02:43:33.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002063)  
May reports po na gumagamit

**[02:43:35.680] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002064)  
ng such pre-verified or

**[02:43:38.040] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002065)  
mule e-wallet accounts para ma-bypass

**[02:43:40.040] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002066)  
ang KYC requirements.

**[02:43:42.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002067)  
Ilan na po ang

**[02:43:43.920] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002068)  
Pigo or e-games licenses

**[02:43:45.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002069)  
na na-fine, suspended,

**[02:43:47.640] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002070)  
or otherwise sanctioned by PAGCOR

**[02:43:50.200] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002071)  
dahil sa failure to prevent

**[02:43:52.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002072)  
proxy accounts, third-party

**[02:43:54.439] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002073)  
funding, or access by

**[02:43:56.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002074)  
minors? At ano po ang

**[02:43:57.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002075)  
ginagawa ninyo para masiguradong hindi

**[02:43:59.640] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002076)  
lang compliance on paper?

**[02:44:03.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002077)  
Opo.

**[02:44:04.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002078)  
Your Honor,

**[02:44:07.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002079)  
sa

**[02:44:07.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002080)  
katanungan ninyo, ay

**[02:44:10.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002081)  
aktibo pong nagmumonitor

**[02:44:12.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002082)  
ang PAGCOR

**[02:44:14.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002083)  
ng mga hindi

**[02:44:15.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002084)  
sumusunod sa KYC.

**[02:44:17.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002085)  
At kung tatanungin

**[02:44:19.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002086)  
ninyo po, hindi lang po fines.

**[02:44:22.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002087)  
Kami po ay

**[02:44:24.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002088)  
nag-impose na ng

**[02:44:25.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002089)  
suspension ng

**[02:44:27.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002090)  
mga legal

**[02:44:29.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002091)  
operators na hindi sumusunod

**[02:44:31.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002092)  
sa struktura ng PAGCOR.

**[02:44:34.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002093)  
Pero gusto ko pong bigyan ng diin,

**[02:44:36.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002094)  
Your Honor,

**[02:44:37.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002095)  
Cong. Padiernos, na

**[02:44:39.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002096)  
ang problemang ito po ng

**[02:44:41.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002097)  
paggamit ng mule accounts,

**[02:44:43.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002098)  
gayon din naman po

**[02:44:45.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002099)  
ng third-party payment

**[02:44:47.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002100)  
providers, ay hindi po

**[02:44:49.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002101)  
nararanasan ng

**[02:44:51.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002102)  
mga

**[02:44:51.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002103)  
legal operators.

**[02:44:53.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002104)  
Ito po karaniwan ang siyang ginagamit

**[02:44:56.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002105)  
ng mga illegal na operators.

**[02:44:57.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002106)  
Kasi nga ho, wala silang sinusunod na batas.

**[02:45:02.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002107)  
Meaning, yung illegal na operator,

**[02:45:05.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002108)  
eh doon sila sa mga illegal din

**[02:45:08.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002109)  
ng mga payment providers

**[02:45:09.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002110)  
para nang sa ganun,

**[02:45:10.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002111)  
mas madali nilang ma-process

**[02:45:13.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002112)  
yung paghikayat sa kanilang mga customers.

**[02:45:17.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002113)  
Dahil pinalalabas nila,

**[02:45:20.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002114)  
mas madaling magbayad

**[02:45:22.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002115)  
o ma-proseso ang kanilang mga pangangailangan

**[02:45:25.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002116)  
sa pamamagitan nitong mga payments na ito.

**[02:45:29.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002117)  
Ang hindi nalalaman nung ating mga kababayan,

**[02:45:34.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002118)  
eh pag nag-patronize ka lang ganun,

**[02:45:36.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002119)  
natitiyak namin,

**[02:45:37.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002120)  
illegal na po ang ating mga pinaglalaroan.

**[02:45:41.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002121)  
Kaya patuloy po kaming nakikipag-ugnayan

**[02:45:45.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002122)  
sa NTC, DICT, CICC,

**[02:45:50.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002123)  
at panay po ang report namin sa kanila

**[02:45:53.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002124)  
nitong mga hindi sumusunod

**[02:45:57.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002125)  
ng mga illegal online gaming operators na ito.

**[02:46:01.920] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002126)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[02:46:02.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002127)  
I just would like to make a quick manifestation.

**[02:46:05.640] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002128)  
So, Madam Chair,

**[02:46:07.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002129)  
I would like to commend and recognize

**[02:46:09.880] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002130)  
the contributions and efforts

**[02:46:12.960] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002131)  
by our PAGCOR

**[02:46:15.040] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002132)  
in generating more than 106 billion in revenues

**[02:46:18.760] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002133)  
and

**[02:46:19.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002134)  
66.95 billion to nation building

**[02:46:22.439] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002135)  
kasama po yung 22.56 billion for universal healthcare.

**[02:46:27.479] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002136)  
So, hindi lang lamang ito po isang numero

**[02:46:30.399] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002137)  
or mga numero.

**[02:46:31.399] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002138)  
These funds truly help support healthcare,

**[02:46:34.760] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002139)  
public services, and programs

**[02:46:36.359] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002140)  
that reach Filipino families across the country,

**[02:46:39.439] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002141)  
especially those who rely most

**[02:46:41.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002142)  
on the government assistance.

**[02:46:43.479] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002143)  
Nakita naman po natin sa kanilang report,

**[02:46:45.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002144)  
yung kanilang programa tulad ng nationwide school building,

**[02:46:49.880] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002145)  
patient transport vehicle donations,

**[02:46:52.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002146)  
relief operations,

**[02:46:54.640] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002147)  
and yung kanilang

**[02:46:55.840] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002148)  
Clark Multi-Specialty Medical Center

**[02:46:58.319] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002149)  
na sana po

**[02:47:00.720] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002150)  
madagdagan pa po

**[02:47:01.520] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002151)  
ang inyong matulungan sa ating mga

**[02:47:03.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002152)  
kababayan at

**[02:47:07.080] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002153)  
rest assured po

**[02:47:08.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002154)  
sa ating PAGCOR

**[02:47:11.479] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002155)  
agency

**[02:47:12.120] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002156)  
that this representation

**[02:47:13.800] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002157)  
has the full support for

**[02:47:15.680] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002158)  
all of its programs

**[02:47:17.000] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002159)  
and any needs

**[02:47:19.279] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002160)  
for the said agency.

**[02:47:22.319] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002161)  
Yun lamang po, Madam Chair.

**[02:47:23.600] Rep. Jan "Atty. JP" Padiernos** (asr-002162)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[02:47:26.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002163)  
Thank you, Representative Padiernos.

**[02:47:28.640] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002164)  
We'll now move to our next interpellator

**[02:47:31.399] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002165)  
from the minority,

**[02:47:32.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002166)  
Representative Presley De Jesus.

**[02:47:36.720] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002167)  
Thank you, Madam Chair,

**[02:47:38.713] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002168)  
and to PAGCOR family.

**[02:47:41.158] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002169)  
Yeah, Chairman,

**[02:47:42.653] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002170)  
I think you mentioned a while ago,

**[02:47:44.803] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002171)  
I think I heard it four times,

**[02:47:46.524] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002172)  
what does integrated resorts mean?

**[02:47:49.400] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002173)  
Apat niyo bes na narinig ko sa inyo,

**[02:47:51.483] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002174)  
so I'm just curious.

**[02:47:52.615] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002175)  
Ang, your honor,

**[02:47:55.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002176)  
ang ibig sabihin po

**[02:47:56.804] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002177)  
ng integrated resorts

**[02:47:58.389] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002178)  
ay yung pong mga may

**[02:48:00.925] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002179)  
lisensya ng PAGCOR

**[02:48:02.623] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002180)  
na nag-invest ng at least

**[02:48:05.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002181)  
1 billion US dollars

**[02:48:07.739] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002182)  
and nakapag-employo po

**[02:48:10.093] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002183)  
ng libu-libong mga tao.

**[02:48:12.721] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002184)  
Ang tinutukoy ko po rito,

**[02:48:14.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002185)  
Congressman Presley,

**[02:48:16.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002186)  
ay ang mga

**[02:48:18.402] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002187)  
casino resorts,

**[02:48:19.534] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002188)  
integrated resorts

**[02:48:21.730] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002189)  
na nandito sa

**[02:48:23.384] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002190)  
Entertainment City

**[02:48:26.258] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002191)  
sa Paranaque.

**[02:48:27.255] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002192)  
Hindi ko na po babanggitin isa-isa.

**[02:48:29.383] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002193)  
Nandyan din po

**[02:48:30.492] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002194)  
ang isang malaking integrated resort

**[02:48:33.346] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002195)  
sa siyudad ng Cebu

**[02:48:35.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002196)  
at nandyan din po

**[02:48:37.873] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002197)  
ang isang maraming

**[02:48:39.798] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002198)  
integrated resorts sa loob po

**[02:48:42.537] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002199)  
ng Clark Economic Zone.

**[02:48:44.688] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002200)  
Ang classification po nila

**[02:48:46.408] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002201)  
ay tinatawag na

**[02:48:48.490] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002202)  
integrated resort

**[02:48:49.963] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002203)  
sa pagkakataon,

**[02:48:50.869] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002204)  
pagkat meron po silang

**[02:48:54.535] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002205)  
required na investment.

**[02:48:55.962] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002206)  
At ang investment pong ito

**[02:48:57.773] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002207)  
ay hindi dapat bumaba

**[02:48:59.652] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002208)  
sa 1 billion US dollars.

**[02:49:03.615] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002209)  
At aside from that,

**[02:49:06.128] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002210)  
Your Honor, Congressman

**[02:49:07.870] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002211)  
De Jesus, sila po

**[02:49:10.814] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002212)  
ay dapat mag-employ

**[02:49:12.762] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002213)  
ng libu-libong

**[02:49:14.980] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002214)  
mga manggagawang

**[02:49:17.448] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002215)  
Pilipino.

**[02:49:18.354] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002216)  
So in short,

**[02:49:19.758] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002217)  
lahat po nang nag-imploy

**[02:49:21.070] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002218)  
ngayon ang bagong

**[02:49:22.904] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002219)  
prangkisa ng

**[02:49:24.535] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002220)  
kasino,

**[02:49:25.734] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002221)  
they will be called

**[02:49:26.911] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002222)  
integrated because

**[02:49:28.179] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002223)  
no one will

**[02:49:29.039] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002224)  
invest

**[02:49:30.262] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002225)  
na bababa

**[02:49:31.710] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002226)  
ng 1 billion.

**[02:49:32.503] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002227)  
Tama ba yun?

**[02:49:33.205] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002228)  
Congressman,

**[02:49:33.974] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002229)  
Your Honor,

**[02:49:34.563] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002230)  
ang

**[02:49:35.143] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002231)  
pwede po mag-apply

**[02:49:38.288] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002232)  
iba't-ibang

**[02:49:39.266] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002233)  
kategorya po kasi.

**[02:49:40.696] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002234)  
Meron po tayong

**[02:49:41.769] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002235)  
highest category,

**[02:49:43.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002236)  
yung tinatawag na

**[02:49:44.152] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002237)  
platinum,

**[02:49:44.492] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002238)  
yun po ang

**[02:49:45.691] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002239)  
tinutukoy ko

**[02:49:46.722] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002240)  
kanina na

**[02:49:47.942] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002241)  
nabanggit nyo

**[02:49:49.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002242)  
mahigit apat na beses.

**[02:49:50.739] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002243)  
Kung nabanggit.

**[02:49:51.433] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002244)  
Yung integrated

**[02:49:52.085] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002245)  
resorts.

**[02:49:52.695] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002246)  
1 billion dollars

**[02:49:54.230] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002247)  
po yun

**[02:49:54.990] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002248)  
and above.

**[02:49:56.314] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002249)  
And then,

**[02:49:57.035] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002250)  
may susunod po doon

**[02:49:58.293] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002251)  
na kategorya,

**[02:49:59.212] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002252)  
400 to 500

**[02:50:00.582] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002253)  
million US dollars.

**[02:50:02.220] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002254)  
Pababa po yun

**[02:50:03.231] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002255)  
hanggang sa lowest

**[02:50:04.577] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002256)  
category

**[02:50:05.409] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002257)  
na 100 million

**[02:50:07.317] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002258)  
US dollars.

**[02:50:08.551] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002259)  
So, yeah,

**[02:50:09.385] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002260)  
I think that's

**[02:50:10.104] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002261)  
very important,

**[02:50:10.956] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002262)  
Madam Chair, no?

**[02:50:11.921] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002263)  
So, you will

**[02:50:12.933] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002264)  
understand what's

**[02:50:13.875] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002265)  
integrated resorts

**[02:50:15.043] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002266)  
is all about,

**[02:50:15.671] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002267)  
which they have to

**[02:50:17.131] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002268)  
infuse not less

**[02:50:18.747] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002269)  
than a billion

**[02:50:19.690] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002270)  
US dollars.

**[02:50:20.746] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002271)  
So, we're talking

**[02:50:22.608] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002272)  
about around

**[02:50:23.305] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002273)  
60 billion US pesos.

**[02:50:24.853] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002274)  
Now, the remaining

**[02:50:25.751] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002275)  
casinos

**[02:50:27.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002276)  
o yung natitirang

**[02:50:29.995] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002277)  
casino Pilipino

**[02:50:31.589] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002278)  
natin,

**[02:50:32.285] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002279)  
yung mga bibili

**[02:50:33.722] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002280)  
niyan,

**[02:50:33.982] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002281)  
they will not be

**[02:50:36.162] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002282)  
considered

**[02:50:36.502] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002283)  
integrated resorts

**[02:50:37.962] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002284)  
kasi

**[02:50:38.202] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002285)  
in totality,

**[02:50:40.302] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002286)  
30 billion lang yun eh.

**[02:50:41.576] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002287)  
Hindi po

**[02:50:43.207] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002288)  
magiging

**[02:50:44.391] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002289)  
integrated resorts

**[02:50:46.067] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002290)  
ng classification.

**[02:50:46.805] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002291)  
Yun po ay

**[02:50:48.325] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002292)  
magiging

**[02:50:49.396] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002293)  
classification

**[02:50:50.157] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002294)  
ng

**[02:50:50.697] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002295)  
halos community

**[02:50:51.907] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002296)  
casino.

**[02:50:52.575] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002297)  
Kumbaga,

**[02:50:53.245] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002298)  
nag-umpisa sa platinum,

**[02:50:54.461] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002299)  
may gold,

**[02:50:55.128] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002300)  
may silver,

**[02:50:55.867] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002301)  
baka po nandoon

**[02:50:56.797] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002302)  
sa bronze yun.

**[02:50:57.703] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002303)  
Meron din pong

**[02:50:58.847] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002304)  
minimum amount

**[02:51:04.139] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002305)  
na dapat

**[02:51:04.839] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002306)  
gastusin.

**[02:51:05.731] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002307)  
At aside from that,

**[02:51:06.928] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002308)  
Your Honor,

**[02:51:07.842] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002309)  
Congressman Jesus,

**[02:51:08.734] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002310)  
ang pagkakaiba din po

**[02:51:10.692] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002311)  
yung fee structure.

**[02:51:12.367] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002312)  
Pagka malaki po

**[02:51:13.259] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002313)  
yung investment nyo,

**[02:51:14.216] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002314)  
mas mababa yung

**[02:51:15.283] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002315)  
regulatory fee

**[02:51:16.631] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002316)  
na binabayaran mo.

**[02:51:17.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002317)  
Pagka mas mababa

**[02:51:18.350] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002318)  
mas maliit,

**[02:51:18.916] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002319)  
palaki ng palaki

**[02:51:19.829] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002320)  
yung regulatory fee.

**[02:51:21.004] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002321)  
So, dun po sa

**[02:51:22.071] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002322)  
apat na pong

**[02:51:23.616] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002323)  
halos 30 plus

**[02:51:26.269] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002324)  
high 30s

**[02:51:27.684] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002325)  
na casino

**[02:51:28.641] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002326)  
Filipino branches

**[02:51:29.729] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002327)  
na

**[02:51:30.189] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002328)  
mapaprioritize,

**[02:51:32.374] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002329)  
mas malaki po

**[02:51:33.302] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002330)  
ang bayad nila

**[02:51:34.230] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002331)  
ng license fees

**[02:51:35.706] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002332)  
compared

**[02:51:36.962] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002333)  
dun sa mga

**[02:51:38.355] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002334)  
nag-invest.

**[02:51:39.365] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002335)  
Dahil binibigyan po

**[02:51:40.758] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002336)  
natin ang

**[02:51:41.258] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002337)  
pagpapahalaga,

**[02:51:42.538] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002338)  
una,

**[02:51:42.858] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002339)  
yung investment,

**[02:51:43.871] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002340)  
mas malaki investment,

**[02:51:45.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002341)  
mas malaking tulong

**[02:51:46.421] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002342)  
sa turismo

**[02:51:47.434] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002343)  
at sa

**[02:51:49.380] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002344)  
ating mga kababay.

**[02:51:50.806] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002345)  
And number two,

**[02:51:52.176] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002346)  
marami,

**[02:51:53.029] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002347)  
libo-libo po

**[02:51:54.042] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002348)  
na-employ nila.

**[02:51:56.536] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002349)  
So,

**[02:51:57.277] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002350)  
may parang incentive

**[02:51:58.784] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002351)  
po sa kanila,

**[02:51:59.717] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002352)  
mas mababa naman po

**[02:52:01.361] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002353)  
yung binabayad nilang

**[02:52:03.087] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002354)  
license fees.

**[02:52:04.458] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002355)  
Thank you,

**[02:52:05.227] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002356)  
Madam Chair.

**[02:52:05.997] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002357)  
My next question,

**[02:52:07.341] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002358)  
you said,

**[02:52:08.272] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002359)  
you mentioned

**[02:52:09.095] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002360)  
a while ago also

**[02:52:10.465] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002361)  
that

**[02:52:10.745] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002362)  
the online gaming

**[02:52:12.425] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002363)  
platform

**[02:52:13.160] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002364)  
tinatalo na

**[02:52:14.525] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002365)  
ang land-based

**[02:52:15.407] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002366)  
casino, no?

**[02:52:16.205] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002367)  
Kasi,

**[02:52:16.925] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002368)  
iba na ngayon,

**[02:52:17.897] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002369)  
gusto ng mga tao

**[02:52:18.640] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002370)  
tabad na ay

**[02:52:19.361] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002371)  
ng pupunta.

**[02:52:20.486] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002372)  
With that regard,

**[02:52:22.078] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002373)  
hindi ko ba

**[02:52:22.631] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002374)  
makakapekto

**[02:52:23.713] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002375)  
sa

**[02:52:24.689] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002376)  
privatization

**[02:52:27.109] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002377)  
po

**[02:52:27.529] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002378)  
ng mga natitirang

**[02:52:28.415] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002379)  
casino Pilipinas

**[02:52:29.343] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002380)  
natin dahil

**[02:52:30.089] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002381)  
para sa kanila

**[02:52:32.124] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002382)  
nagde-devaluate

**[02:52:34.221] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002383)  
niya yung

**[02:52:34.885] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002384)  
halaga

**[02:52:36.115] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002385)  
ng inyong

**[02:52:37.223] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002386)  
binabentang casino?

**[02:52:38.210] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002387)  
Kasi,

**[02:52:38.490] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002388)  
kung ako,

**[02:52:39.169] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002389)  
if I have a billion dollars,

**[02:52:41.102] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002390)  
mag-apply na lang

**[02:52:41.901] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002391)  
bago,

**[02:52:42.577] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002392)  
bago na yung building ko,

**[02:52:43.906] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002393)  
bago na lahat.

**[02:52:44.850] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002394)  
So,

**[02:52:45.270] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002395)  
habang tumatagal yan,

**[02:52:46.793] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002396)  
nagde-decline yung value

**[02:52:48.510] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002397)  
from,

**[02:52:48.990] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002398)  
you said a while ago,

**[02:52:50.434] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002399)  
30 billions

**[02:52:51.471] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002400)  
almost

**[02:52:52.346] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002401)  
all of the casinos.

**[02:52:53.790] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002402)  
Baka,

**[02:52:54.210] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002403)  
by that time na ma-approve na yan,

**[02:52:56.388] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002404)  
baka kalahati na lang

**[02:52:58.057] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002405)  
yan ang presyo niya.

**[02:52:59.073] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002406)  
What will happen

**[02:53:00.261] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002407)  
kapag nangyari yan?

**[02:53:02.892] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002408)  
Salamat po sa inyong katanungan, Congressman De Jesus.

**[02:53:04.277] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002409)  
Congressman De Jesus,

**[02:53:06.057] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002410)  
actually,

**[02:53:07.050] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002411)  
may merkado po

**[02:53:08.408] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002412)  
yung community casinos.

**[02:53:09.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002413)  
Ang totoo,

**[02:53:11.151] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002414)  
malakas din siya.

**[02:53:12.337] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002415)  
Kasi,

**[02:53:13.077] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002416)  
iba po yung

**[02:53:13.869] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002417)  
nagpe-patronize nun

**[02:53:15.791] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002418)  
kesa dun sa mga

**[02:53:17.403] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002419)  
integrated resorts.

**[02:53:19.015] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002420)  
Yung pong mga

**[02:53:20.712] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002421)  
ayaw nang lumayo

**[02:53:22.635] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002422)  
sa kanilang mga area.

**[02:53:24.501] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002424)  
imbis na magbiyahe

**[02:53:25.887] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002425)  
papapunta sa Paranaque,

**[02:53:27.808] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002426)  
dun na lang

**[02:53:28.574] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002427)  
sa kanilang area

**[02:53:29.790] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002428)  
maglaro.

**[02:53:32.108] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002429)  
Ang natitiya ko lang po,

**[02:53:34.908] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002430)  
yung

**[02:53:35.428] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002431)  
efficiency

**[02:53:37.265] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002432)  
ng casino

**[02:53:38.463] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002433)  
na maliit,

**[02:53:40.193] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002434)  
lalaki po eh.

**[02:53:41.364] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002435)  
Compared to

**[02:53:42.510] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002436)  
sa pagpapatakpo

**[02:53:43.841] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002437)  
ng gobyerno

**[02:53:45.358] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002438)  
o ng PAGCOR

**[02:53:46.317] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002439)  
sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[02:53:47.755] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002440)  
Sabi ko nga ho eh,

**[02:53:49.166] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002441)  
ah,

**[02:53:49.942] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002442)  
yung casino filipino,

**[02:53:51.939] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002443)  
niwala,

**[02:53:52.767] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002444)  
bibili na lang kami

**[02:53:54.150] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002445)  
your honor

**[02:53:56.147] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002446)  
ng tubig

**[02:53:57.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002447)  
at kape,

**[02:53:58.225] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002448)  
magpapabiding pa kami.

**[02:53:59.822] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002449)  
Eh,

**[02:54:00.102] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002450)  
kung nasa privado

**[02:54:01.341] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002451)  
sektor na po yan,

**[02:54:02.814] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002452)  
pati yung pagbibigay

**[02:54:04.079] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002453)  
ng pagkain,

**[02:54:05.293] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002454)  
halimbawa,

**[02:54:06.096] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002455)  
hindi na dadaan

**[02:54:07.361] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002456)  
sa mga ganyang proseso.

**[02:54:09.195] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002457)  
So,

**[02:54:09.895] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002458)  
naniniwala po ako,

**[02:54:11.496] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002459)  
through,

**[02:54:12.582] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002460)  
ah,

**[02:54:13.669] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002461)  
pababa po

**[02:54:14.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002462)  
ang value,

**[02:54:15.426] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002463)  
pero,

**[02:54:16.126] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002464)  
hindi din po

**[02:54:17.236] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002465)  
basta-basta

**[02:54:18.192] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002466)  
isasantabi yan.

**[02:54:19.845] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002467)  
Dahil,

**[02:54:20.673] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002468)  
ang

**[02:54:22.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002469)  
pag-aaral po namin,

**[02:54:24.108] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002470)  
instead na mag,

**[02:54:25.244] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002471)  
sa pangkasalukuyan kasi,

**[02:54:26.872] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002472)  
kaya nalulugi po,

**[02:54:28.318] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002473)  
isang major

**[02:54:29.584] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002474)  
na kadahilanan.

**[02:54:30.849] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002475)  
70% po kasi

**[02:54:32.863] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002476)  
ng kita,

**[02:54:33.534] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002477)  
itinatapo na

**[02:54:34.697] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002478)  
papunta sa gobyerno.

**[02:54:36.248] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002479)  
Samantalang,

**[02:54:37.178] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002480)  
kung privado ka na,

**[02:54:38.417] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002481)  
ang babayaran mo na,

**[02:54:39.811] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002482)  
na lang,

**[02:54:40.745] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002483)  
ay yung

**[02:54:41.468] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002484)  
franchise tax

**[02:54:42.708] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002485)  
na 5%

**[02:54:43.896] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002486)  
at

**[02:54:44.774] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002487)  
yung,

**[02:54:46.298] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002488)  
yung license fees,

**[02:54:48.132] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002489)  
ano man yun.

**[02:54:49.090] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002490)  
Hindi bababa po yun

**[02:54:50.511] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002491)  
sa 25%

**[02:54:51.673] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002492)  
to 30%.

**[02:54:52.991] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002493)  
So,

**[02:54:53.742] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002494)  
dun lang po,

**[02:54:54.646] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002495)  
malaking menos na yun.

**[02:54:56.092] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002496)  
Pangalawa,

**[02:54:56.764] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002497)  
your honor,

**[02:54:57.590] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002498)  
natitiya kong

**[02:54:58.701] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002499)  
isa pa,

**[02:54:59.451] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002500)  
yung number of employees,

**[02:55:01.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002501)  
sobra-sobra po

**[02:55:02.733] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002502)  
ang dami ng empleyado namin eh.

**[02:55:04.876] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002503)  
So,

**[02:55:05.176] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002504)  
pag nagbawas na yung

**[02:55:06.066] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002505)  
nagpapatakbong

**[02:55:06.807] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002506)  
privado sektor

**[02:55:07.695] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002507)  
at it will be run

**[02:55:09.054] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002508)  
professionally,

**[02:55:09.853] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002509)  
eh,

**[02:55:10.108] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002510)  
natitiya ko,

**[02:55:10.723] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002511)  
pababa din

**[02:55:11.376] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002512)  
ang cost niya

**[02:55:12.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002513)  
dun sa

**[02:55:13.116] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002514)  
pagpapasweldo

**[02:55:14.875] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002515)  
ng tao.

**[02:55:17.596] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002516)  
Binanggit ko po

**[02:55:18.836] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002517)  
kanina rito,

**[02:55:19.616] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002519)  
saan kayo nakakita?

**[02:55:21.436] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002520)  
Ang payroll po

**[02:55:22.336] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002521)  
ng PAGCOR

**[02:55:23.070] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002522)  
sa pangkasalukoyan,

**[02:55:24.384] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002523)  
mahigit

**[02:55:25.068] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002524)  
isang bilyong piso po

**[02:55:27.115] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002525)  
buwan-buwan.

**[02:55:27.976] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002527)  
dun lang po,

**[02:55:28.886] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002528)  
eh,

**[02:55:29.623] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002529)  
ang bigat na nandala namin.

**[02:55:31.471] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002530)  
Tapos,

**[02:55:32.179] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002531)  
dun po sa

**[02:55:33.013] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002532)  
upa

**[02:55:34.556] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002533)  
ng casino

**[02:55:35.972] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002534)  
Filipino properties,

**[02:55:37.641] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002535)  
250 milyong pesos po

**[02:55:40.044] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002536)  
halos isang buwan.

**[02:55:41.231] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002537)  
Kaya,

**[02:55:41.965] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002538)  
dun lang sa dalawang item na yun,

**[02:55:43.605] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002539)  
halos isang bilyon

**[02:55:45.107] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002540)  
at kalahating

**[02:55:46.155] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002541)  
1.5 billion pesos po

**[02:55:50.118] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002542)  
ang gastos na namin.

**[02:55:51.325] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002543)  
Thank you,

**[02:55:51.937] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002544)  
Mr. Chair.

**[02:55:52.577] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002545)  
No,

**[02:55:54.591] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002546)  
follow up question.

**[02:55:55.147] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002547)  
Because,

**[02:55:55.576] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002548)  
right now,

**[02:55:56.066] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002549)  
under the PD,

**[02:55:56.841] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002550)  
something,

**[02:55:57.271] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002551)  
you are both

**[02:55:57.840] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002552)  
regulator and operator

**[02:55:58.870] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002553)  
because you have

**[02:55:59.455] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002554)  
casino Filipinas pa kasi,

**[02:56:00.531] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002555)  
no?

**[02:56:00.771] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002556)  
So,

**[02:56:01.271] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002557)  
you're trying to

**[02:56:02.043] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002558)  
decoupling it,

**[02:56:02.974] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002559)  
right?

**[02:56:03.679] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002560)  
So,

**[02:56:04.384] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002561)  
once na-privatize na ito,

**[02:56:05.951] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002562)  
automatic,

**[02:56:06.611] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002563)  
wala na yung ano,

**[02:56:07.406] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002564)  
or needs to be

**[02:56:09.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002565)  
ah,

**[02:56:09.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002566)  
le-calibrate o

**[02:56:10.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002567)  
kailangan ng batas

**[02:56:11.142] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002568)  
para maging ano lang kayo,

**[02:56:11.925] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002569)  
ah,

**[02:56:12.673] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002570)  
regulator?

**[02:56:13.417] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002571)  
Ah,

**[02:56:14.165] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002572)  
meron po kasing

**[02:56:15.064] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002573)  
existing ng batas.

**[02:56:16.464] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002574)  
Yung batas po

**[02:56:17.442] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002575)  
na spinong,

**[02:56:18.342] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002578)  
Senator Frank Drilon

**[02:56:19.899] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002579)  
at ito po ay

**[02:56:22.002] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002580)  
ang

**[02:56:23.006] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002581)  
nakasaad doon,

**[02:56:25.621] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002582)  
yung pong

**[02:56:26.258] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002583)  
GCG law,

**[02:56:27.529] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002584)  
nakasaad po roon

**[02:56:28.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002585)  
sa isa roon

**[02:56:30.048] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002586)  
sa mga

**[02:56:30.780] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002587)  
provisions ng batas.

**[02:56:33.054] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002588)  
Pag nagkaroon po

**[02:56:34.326] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002589)  
ng conflict

**[02:56:35.548] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002590)  
ang regulatory

**[02:56:37.114] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002591)  
at ang commercial

**[02:56:38.434] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002592)  
operations

**[02:56:39.234] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002593)  
ng isang

**[02:56:40.170] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002594)  
GOCC,

**[02:56:41.544] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002595)  
pwede pong

**[02:56:42.450] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002596)  
paghiwalayin ito.

**[02:56:44.074] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002597)  
Kaya,

**[02:56:44.834] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002598)  
doon po

**[02:56:45.395] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002599)  
naka-anchor

**[02:56:46.110] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002600)  
ang magiging

**[02:56:47.093] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002601)  
rekomendasyon

**[02:56:47.855] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002602)  
ng government

**[02:56:48.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002603)  
ng government.

**[02:56:50.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002607)  
Commission

**[02:56:50.340] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002608)  
for

**[02:56:51.125] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002609)  
GOCC

**[02:56:52.443] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002610)  
sa tanggapan

**[02:56:53.846] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002611)  
ng Pangulo

**[02:56:54.590] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002612)  
ng Pilipinas.

**[02:56:55.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002613)  
Thank you.

**[02:56:56.401] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002614)  
You also mentioned

**[02:56:57.655] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002615)  
ago that

**[02:56:58.420] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002616)  
almost 100 million

**[02:56:59.674] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002617)  
were being

**[02:57:00.929] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002618)  
penalized

**[02:57:01.673] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002619)  
because of the

**[02:57:02.758] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002620)  
ads nila.

**[02:57:03.523] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002621)  
No?

**[02:57:03.983] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002622)  
Isn't it?

**[02:57:05.555] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002623)  
Para sa'yo,

**[02:57:06.683] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002624)  
you think

**[02:57:07.083] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002625)  
it's too low?

**[02:57:08.283] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002626)  
Kaya,

**[02:57:08.883] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002627)  
kasi ako ha,

**[02:57:09.596] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002628)  
kung ako magpe-penalize

**[02:57:11.169] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002629)  
sa 1 million,

**[02:57:11.883] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002630)  
pero

**[02:57:12.123] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002631)  
my advertisement

**[02:57:13.737] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002632)  
siguro

**[02:57:14.545] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002633)  
will be there

**[02:57:15.614] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002634)  
for 6 months.

**[02:57:16.596] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002635)  
Tatagal.

**[02:57:17.163] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002636)  
Eh,

**[02:57:17.643] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002637)  
yung

**[02:57:18.263] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002638)  
economy

**[02:57:19.955] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002639)  
Noon,

**[02:57:20.932] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002640)  
marami ako

**[02:57:21.623] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002641)  
mahikayat.

**[02:57:22.576] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002642)  
Is that the

**[02:57:23.363] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002643)  
maximum

**[02:57:23.743] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002644)  
penalty

**[02:57:25.268] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002645)  
that you're

**[02:57:26.327] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002646)  
given to a

**[02:57:27.521] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002647)  
violator?

**[02:57:28.095] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002648)  
Your Honor,

**[02:57:29.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002649)  
Salamat po sa katanungan, Congressman De Jesus.

**[02:57:30.323] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002650)  
Jesus,

**[02:57:30.883] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002651)  
it is not

**[02:57:33.168] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002652)  
the maximum.

**[02:57:34.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002653)  
It is the

**[02:57:34.937] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002654)  
first offense

**[02:57:36.025] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002655)  
penalty.

**[02:57:36.788] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002656)  
If they are

**[02:57:37.768] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002657)  
caught

**[02:57:38.068] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002658)  
second time,

**[02:57:39.083] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002659)  
they are

**[02:57:40.375] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002660)  
suspended.

**[02:57:41.059] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002661)  
Their license

**[02:57:41.539] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002662)  
is suspended.

**[02:57:42.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002663)  
And if they're

**[02:57:42.886] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002664)  
caught on a

**[02:57:43.440] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002665)  
third time,

**[02:57:44.067] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002666)  
their license

**[02:57:45.378] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002667)  
will be

**[02:57:45.969] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002668)  
canceled.

**[02:57:47.849] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002669)  
With regard

**[02:57:49.109] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002670)  
to your

**[02:57:49.549] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002671)  
concern,

**[02:57:50.829] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002672)  
the economy

**[02:57:51.869] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002673)  
is of scale,

**[02:57:52.729] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002674)  
we have seen

**[02:57:54.169] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002675)  
that.

**[02:57:54.389] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002676)  
Kaya,

**[02:57:54.769] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002677)  
yung nagpupulis

**[02:57:56.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002678)  
po

**[02:57:57.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002679)  
ng mga billboard

**[02:57:58.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002680)  
na ito

**[02:57:58.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002681)  
ay aktibo,

**[02:57:58.786] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002682)  
hindi po

**[02:57:59.394] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002683)  
tatagal

**[02:58:00.093] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002684)  
ng isang linggo

**[02:58:01.189] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002685)  
yung ad na yun.

**[02:58:02.122] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002686)  
Kung sakaling

**[02:58:02.937] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002687)  
in violation

**[02:58:04.245] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002688)  
of our

**[02:58:05.807] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002689)  
structure

**[02:58:07.509] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002690)  
and rules

**[02:58:08.419] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002691)  
and guidelines.

**[02:58:09.328] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002692)  
Ang totoo po,

**[02:58:10.330] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002693)  
yung

**[02:58:11.390] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002694)  
binanggit

**[02:58:12.878] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002695)  
dito kanina

**[02:58:13.713] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002696)  
ni

**[02:58:14.997] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002697)  
Congressman

**[02:58:15.832] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002698)  
Eli

**[02:58:17.646] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002699)  
San Fernando

**[02:58:18.706] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002700)  
tungkol sa

**[02:58:19.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002701)  
kay

**[02:58:20.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002702)  
sa isang

**[02:58:21.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002703)  
magaling na

**[02:58:22.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002704)  
endorser

**[02:58:23.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002705)  
na ginamit

**[02:58:24.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002706)  
yung online

**[02:58:25.316] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002707)  
gaming platform,

**[02:58:26.575] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002708)  
hindi po tumagal

**[02:58:27.647] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002709)  
ng ilang araw

**[02:58:28.489] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002710)  
lang yun.

**[02:58:29.118] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002711)  
Nahinto na po

**[02:58:30.190] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002712)  
namin

**[02:58:30.690] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002713)  
at

**[02:58:32.039] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002714)  
finign na po

**[02:58:34.224] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002715)  
namin sila

**[02:58:34.984] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002716)  
with the

**[02:58:35.990] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002717)  
warning

**[02:58:36.650] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002718)  
that if this

**[02:58:38.247] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002719)  
happens again,

**[02:58:39.281] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002720)  
their license

**[02:58:40.150] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002721)  
will be suspended.

**[02:58:41.371] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002722)  
So,

**[02:58:42.147] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002723)  
kumbaga,

**[02:58:42.924] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002724)  
due process din po

**[02:58:44.217] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002725)  
ang kailangan.

**[02:58:45.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002726)  
Kaya,

**[02:58:45.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002727)  
at gusto ko rin pong

**[02:58:46.886] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002728)  
ipagbigay alam

**[02:58:48.062] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002729)  
sa inyo,

**[02:58:48.848] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002730)  
kaya,

**[02:58:49.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002731)  
Congressman De Jesus,

**[02:58:50.785] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002732)  
Congressman

**[02:58:51.407] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002733)  
de Jesus,

**[02:58:52.539] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002734)  
na dati po yung

**[02:58:53.968] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002735)  
fine was only

**[02:58:55.238] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002736)  
P50,000 eh.

**[02:58:56.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002737)  
So,

**[02:58:57.360] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002738)  
yung pong

**[02:58:58.266] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002739)  
pagpapalit namin

**[02:58:59.423] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002740)  
dahil sa pag

**[02:59:00.660] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002741)  
kakalibrate din

**[02:59:03.540] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002742)  
ng aming

**[02:59:04.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002743)  
rules and regulations,

**[02:59:05.067] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002744)  
ginawa na po namin

**[02:59:06.112] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002745)  
1 million

**[02:59:07.135] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002746)  
first offense

**[02:59:08.512] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002747)  
pa lamang.

**[02:59:09.201] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002748)  
So,

**[02:59:09.741] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002749)  
tulad po

**[02:59:10.527] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002750)  
ng ano eh,

**[02:59:11.721] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002751)  
dapat

**[02:59:11.981] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002752)  
bigyan natin

**[02:59:13.280] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002753)  
ng

**[02:59:14.139] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002754)  
due process

**[02:59:17.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002755)  
din po

**[02:59:18.413] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002756)  
yung ating

**[02:59:19.779] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002757)  
mga licenses.

**[02:59:22.069] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002758)  
Thank you,

**[02:59:22.710] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002759)  
Madam Chair.

**[02:59:23.350] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002760)  
My next question,

**[02:59:24.606] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002761)  
Madam Chair,

**[02:59:25.223] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002762)  
is,

**[02:59:25.563] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002763)  
can you enlighten us

**[02:59:26.918] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002764)  
about the gaming

**[02:59:28.022] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002765)  
system administrator?

**[02:59:30.142] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002766)  
Ano ba ito?

**[02:59:30.961] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002767)  
Ito,

**[02:59:31.728] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002768)  
is it about

**[02:59:33.253] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002769)  
illegal

**[02:59:34.046] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002770)  
mga online?

**[02:59:35.177] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002771)  
Your Honor,

**[02:59:36.449] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002772)  
Congressman de Jesus,

**[02:59:39.503] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002773)  
yun po yung

**[02:59:40.435] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002774)  
licensed

**[02:59:42.215] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002775)  
online gaming

**[02:59:43.544] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002776)  
operator.

**[02:59:44.422] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002777)  
When you have

**[02:59:45.523] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002778)  
a license

**[02:59:47.165] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002779)  
to operate

**[02:59:48.323] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002780)  
an online

**[02:59:49.537] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002781)  
gaming

**[02:59:50.415] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002782)  
company,

**[02:59:52.421] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002783)  
you are

**[02:59:53.382] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002784)  
considered

**[02:59:54.231] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002785)  
as a

**[02:59:55.643] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002788)  
either as a GSA or Gaming Service Administrator.

**[02:59:59.926] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002789)  
So, how many of them, Madam Chair?

**[03:00:02.132] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002790)  
Today, Your Honor, at its peak, we had 74.

**[03:00:07.623] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002791)  
But as of today, we are down to 48, Your Honor.

**[03:00:13.899] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002792)  
What happened? May violations nila? Suspended?

**[03:00:17.249] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002793)  
Meron na pong suspended, meron na pong natanggalan ng lisensya,

**[03:00:21.638] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002794)  
at meron na rin pong nag-surrender ng kanilang lisensya, Your Honor.

**[03:00:27.025] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002795)  
Are they local o may foreign din bang mga?

**[03:00:30.565] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002796)  
Yung lahat pong nangyon, mga 98% po are local.

**[03:00:39.493] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002797)  
So, local. So, what's the reason why they surrendered? Because they're losing money?

**[03:00:43.457] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002798)  
They surrendered because they're losing money, yes.

**[03:00:46.956] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002799)  
For your information, Your Honor,

**[03:00:50.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002800)  
Congressman De Jesus,

**[03:00:58.681] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002801)  
kung saan hindi na po pwede gawain nagpaparada ka lang ng lisensya

**[03:01:04.343] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002802)  
or wala kang ginagawa sa lisensya mo, effective po nung July 1.

**[03:01:09.348] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002803)  
Meron na pong minimum na 9 million pesos na minimum guarantee fee

**[03:01:17.321] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002804)  
ang ini-impose ng PAGCOR.

**[03:01:19.569] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002805)  
And then, ang BIR naman po may karagdagang 5%.

**[03:01:23.619] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002806)  
So, kung ikaw po ay isang GSA, meron ka na pong minimum na dapat bayaran na 10.5 million pesos.

**[03:01:32.375] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002807)  
9 million sa PAGCOR and 1.5 million po sa Bureau of Internal Revenue.

**[03:01:37.931] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002808)  
So, yung mga dormant po or yung mga nag-iintay lang na may balak na magbenta or whatever,

**[03:01:45.311] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002809)  
eh wala namang activity pa sa pangkasalukuyan, napakabigat po.

**[03:01:49.826] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002810)  
Kung sila yung maglalabas ng 10.5 million pesos sa month,

**[03:01:53.939] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002811)  
meron na rin pong ilan na nag-surrender na po ng kanilang lisensya.

**[03:01:59.324] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002812)  
And this for me is a very good program para po ma-rationalize

**[03:02:10.222] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002813)  
tsaka ma-stabilize na natin yung online gaming industry natin.

**[03:02:15.249] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002814)  
You answered my next question about those mga dormant, no?

**[03:02:19.256] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002815)  
Kasi walang pinagkaiba yan.

**[03:02:20.613] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002816)  
Sa Department of Energy, tinatawag namin service contract.

**[03:02:23.836] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002817)  
Bibili lang sila, maghihintay sila ng buyer.

**[03:02:26.784] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002818)  
So, in your case, wala nang ganun.

**[03:02:28.373] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002819)  
You can assure ya, Chairman?

**[03:02:30.155] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002820)  
Well, Your Honor, Congressman, I cannot claim that hindi na po mangyayari.

**[03:02:37.004] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002821)  
Pero ang malaking deterrent po talaga eh yung namumuhunan sila ng karagdagan.

**[03:02:42.347] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002822)  
10.5 ng 10.5 billion, medyo mabigat din po yun kung talagang wala kayong ginagawa.

**[03:02:47.562] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002823)  
At ang totoo po,

**[03:02:48.623] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002824)  
naging feedback po namin bigla ngayon, wala na po halos nagbebenta.

**[03:02:52.778] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002825)  
Magsusurrender na lang po sila ng lisensya.

**[03:02:55.387] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002826)  
So, yan po ay isang programang ipinatupad po ng inyong lingkod nitong ika-isa ng Hulyo nitong taong ito.

**[03:03:05.628] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002827)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:03:06.456] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002828)  
Going to my next question.

**[03:03:08.363] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002829)  
Under your corporate mandate, nakalagay dito, number one,

**[03:03:12.138] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002830)  
regulate, operate, authorize, and license games of chance.

**[03:03:17.842] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002831)  
Cards and numbers, particularly casino gaming in the Philippines.

**[03:03:22.760] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002832)  
So, ano itong, when you say games of chance, ano mga under neto?

**[03:03:26.007] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002833)  
Well, ang totoo po, ang na-under lang dyan, na inabutan ko na po,

**[03:03:31.964] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002834)  
ay yun talagang casino games, tsaka po itong online gaming.

**[03:03:36.099] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002835)  
Pero pagdating po sa horse racing, under po yan sa gab.

**[03:03:41.656] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002836)  
Cock fighting, under po yan sa gab.

**[03:03:43.881] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002837)  
Yung isa po palang nawala rin.

**[03:03:46.766] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002838)  
Namin, nadating nan dyan, ay yung pong online sabong.

**[03:03:50.794] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002839)  
Halimbawa, so games of chance po na-classify, pero nawala na rin po yan.

**[03:03:55.989] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002840)  
So, sa pangkasalukuyan po, yung in reference to games of chance,

**[03:04:02.138] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002841)  
ang tinutukoy po dyan ay mga casino games at yung online gaming games.

**[03:04:08.923] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002842)  
So, casino games and online gaming.

**[03:04:11.954] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002843)  
Hindi yung kagay sinabi mo yung horse racing, that's under gab.

**[03:04:15.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002844)  
Hindi po.

**[03:04:15.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002845)  
Nasa gab po ang horse racing, tsaka meron po yung Philippine Racing Commission.

**[03:04:20.166] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002846)  
Tapos, yung pong ibang cock fighting, sa gab din po yan, wala po sa PAGCOR.

**[03:04:26.599] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002847)  
Okay. So, anything, basta sa inyo, online.

**[03:04:29.462] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002848)  
So, we need to depreciate.

**[03:04:30.864] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002849)  
Online and yung pong games of chance, yung casino games.

**[03:04:32.629] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002850)  
Yung pong nakikita natin sa mga land-based casinos natin.

**[03:04:36.567] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002851)  
So, anything land-based casino, under casino property nila,

**[03:04:41.743] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002852)  
plus online games.

**[03:04:43.062] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002853)  
So, online gaming is under PAGCOR.

**[03:04:45.600] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002854)  
Tama ba yan?

**[03:04:46.146] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002855)  
Yes.

**[03:04:46.738] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002856)  
Your Honor, tama po kayo.

**[03:04:48.625] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002857)  
Okay. Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[03:04:50.637] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002858)  
And again, I would like to reiterate my point that I raised a clarificatory question ago

**[03:04:55.932] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002859)  
about the budget, no, that being taken away from PAGCOR

**[03:05:01.920] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002860)  
vis-a-vis to Philippine Sports Commission na dapat ibalik sa inyo.

**[03:05:07.096] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002861)  
Kasi ang dami nyo natutulungan, sa totoo lang.

**[03:05:09.877] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002862)  
Again, thank you.

**[03:05:10.810] Rep. Presley C. De Jesus** (asr-002863)  
Madam Chair, thank you, PAGCOR family.

**[03:05:13.388] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002864)  
Salamat din po, Your Honor.

**[03:05:14.606] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002865)  
Thank you very much, Chairman Tengco.

**[03:05:17.102] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002866)  
Thank you so much, Representative Presley De Jesus.

**[03:05:26.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002867)  
We'll now move to our next interpellator from the majority.

**[03:05:29.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002868)  
We have two, but they don't seem to be here in the room.

**[03:05:33.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002869)  
Representative Brian Poe.

**[03:05:36.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002870)  
Ah, okay. Sorry, Brian. I didn't see you.

**[03:05:39.319] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002871)  
Nakabalik na pala.

**[03:05:41.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-002872)  
Next, from the minority, Representative Brian Poe.

**[03:05:46.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002873)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[03:05:47.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002874)  
My apologies. Majority. From the majority, Representative Brian Poe.

**[03:05:50.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002875)  
Thank you.

**[03:05:52.239] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002876)  
So, first and foremost, Madam Chair, I just want to thank the PAGCOR chairman

**[03:05:57.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002877)  
because immediately after our previous hearing,

**[03:06:00.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002878)  
44 out of the 52 illegal websites that we mentioned were immediately taken down.

**[03:06:07.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002879)  
However, Madam Chair, I'd like to bring up that some of these sites are now accessible again.

**[03:06:14.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002880)  
So, I have a list.

**[03:06:15.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002881)  
I have a list here of the websites which you can still access via the computer.

**[03:06:21.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002882)  
My team is pulling it up on the laptop so that we can show it to them.

**[03:06:24.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002883)  
But to save time, we will submit it to the committee just so that PAGCOR can also follow up on this.

**[03:06:32.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002884)  
Aside from that, I also want to point out that PAGCOR, if I'm not mistaken,

**[03:06:39.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002885)  
your GRR or Gross Gaming Revenues in 2025,

**[03:06:45.319] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002886)  
is up 6.39% from $372 billion in 2024.

**[03:06:54.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002887)  
So, how much are we looking at in terms of GGR for 2025 again?

**[03:06:59.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002888)  
I think it was mentioned earlier.

**[03:07:00.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002889)  
Are you, Your Honor, are you referring to 2025 or 2026?

**[03:07:06.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002890)  
For 2026.

**[03:07:08.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002891)  
For 2026, there is already a decline for both land-based casinos and online gaming.

**[03:07:15.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002892)  
We are looking at about P370 billion pesos.

**[03:07:22.517] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002893)  
P370 billion pesos.

**[03:07:24.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002894)  
More or less?

**[03:07:26.760] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002895)  
Sige po.

**[03:07:27.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002896)  
If we're looking at P370 billion pesos,

**[03:07:32.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002897)  
we're looking at how much in terms of the annual wagering turnover for 2026.

**[03:07:42.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002898)  
So, kumbaga, the gross revenue po that we,

**[03:07:45.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002899)  
are able to get is, yes, sir.

**[03:07:49.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002900)  
As, Your Honor, as gross gaming revenue is defined by total bets, less payouts.

**[03:07:56.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002901)  
So, maybe I should say the total wages placed will be in the vicinity of about P3 trillion.

**[03:08:12.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002902)  
About P3 trillion pesos, no?

**[03:08:15.399] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002903)  
Okay.

**[03:08:15.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002904)  
The reason why I bring this up, Madam Chair,

**[03:08:18.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002905)  
is because if there's about P3 trillion pesos that are being wagered per annum,

**[03:08:25.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002906)  
and we're getting about P300 plus billion in gross revenue from this,

**[03:08:31.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002907)  
can you imagine how much of the undeclared revenue

**[03:08:35.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002908)  
or how much of the undeclared annual wagers we're missing out on in terms of government revenue,

**[03:08:41.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002909)  
which could go towards government projects, government services?

**[03:08:45.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002910)  
And if we look here, for example,

**[03:08:48.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002911)  
I just pulled up PopoLive, which is accessible online again.

**[03:08:54.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002912)  
Madam Chair, may I ask if PopoLive and these other apps,

**[03:08:58.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002913)  
sorry, these other apps and websites from last year were able to secure a gambling license from PAGCOR?

**[03:09:06.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002914)  
Your Honor, I believe we have not issued a license,

**[03:09:13.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002915)  
primarily because we have, since last two years,

**[03:09:20.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002916)  
had a moratorium on licenses.

**[03:09:24.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002917)  
So, I am 100% sure they remain to be part of the illegal operators operating in the Philippines.

**[03:09:34.567] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002918)  
Madam Chair, so...

**[03:09:35.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002919)  
Your Honor, if you don't mind, I just want to say that

**[03:09:40.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002920)  
I'd like to thank you for recognizing the fact that

**[03:09:44.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002921)  
when you brought out the name,

**[03:09:48.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002922)  
the names of the illegal operators last year,

**[03:09:53.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002923)  
they were pulled down or put up.

**[03:09:56.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002924)  
That was not because of us.

**[03:09:59.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002925)  
We did make the recommendation to the DICT, CICC, and the NTC.

**[03:10:09.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002926)  
Because they are, Your Honor, the ones with the police powers.

**[03:10:15.917] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002927)  
They are the ones who have the power.

**[03:10:17.987] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002928)  
We are not...

**[03:10:19.350] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002929)  
There is nothing to be done but to make a recommendation,

**[03:10:21.090] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002930)  
to make a recommendation, and to make a recommendation only.

**[03:10:23.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002931)  
So, I just want to give credit where credit is due.

**[03:10:27.587] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002932)  
Because we are the ones who just recommended and just said

**[03:10:31.572] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002933)  
here in these government agencies that these are illegal and their operations must continue.

**[03:10:38.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002934)  
Madam Chair, I'd like to thank the PAGCOR chairman for clarifying that until now,

**[03:10:45.399] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002935)  
these apps and these gaming sites do not have a license.

**[03:10:48.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002936)  
Madam Chair, may I ask kung kasama po sa GGR ang revenue galing sa mga apps

**[03:10:55.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002937)  
or yung mga wagers placed on any of these websites or apps?

**[03:11:01.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002938)  
Your Honor, hindi po kasama.

**[03:11:02.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002939)  
We only track the GGR of our legal operators or our PAGCOR licenses.

**[03:11:12.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002940)  
Madam Chair, I bring this up kasi kung tutuusin itong mga sites na ito,

**[03:11:16.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002941)  
hindi sila kasama sa GGR,

**[03:11:18.200] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002942)  
yung GGR natin is already in the billions.

**[03:11:21.239] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002943)  
The total annual wager tracked is estimated at around 3 trillion pesos.

**[03:11:26.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002944)  
What more if these apps, these websites were properly tracked or suspended?

**[03:11:32.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002945)  
Kasi kung suspended po sila, then they will only gamble through the legal websites.

**[03:11:36.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002946)  
Tama po ba?

**[03:11:38.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002947)  
So, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair...

**[03:11:41.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002948)  
Yes, you are right, Your Honor.

**[03:11:43.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002949)  
Yun po ang sinasabi ko kanina,

**[03:11:46.200] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002950)  
na 50% lang po ng industriya ang may lisensya,

**[03:11:51.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002951)  
50% po ay walang lisensya.

**[03:11:54.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002952)  
You can just imagine, Your Honor, Congressman po,

**[03:11:59.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002953)  
what government is losing in terms of potential revenue.

**[03:12:03.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002954)  
Kaya talagang, dapat talagang pagtulungan na ating masugpo itong mga illegal na ito.

**[03:12:10.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002955)  
Malaki po, nawawala sa atin lahat dyan sa nangyayaring yan, Your Honor.

**[03:12:15.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002956)  
Madam Chair, what's important here is during this committee hearing,

**[03:12:18.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002957)  
nabanggit po ni Chairman that wala pang na-issue na bago na lisensya because there's a moratorium.

**[03:12:26.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002958)  
50% lang ang nakukuha natin na revenue.

**[03:12:30.399] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002959)  
Instead, we could be doubling the government revenue that we could possibly get from this to put into programs.

**[03:12:36.680] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002960)  
Madam Chair, moving on quickly to my next set of questions.

**[03:12:40.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002961)  
Madam Chair, PAGCOR pointed out that there are many,

**[03:12:43.439] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002962)  
there are many nation building programs.

**[03:12:45.840] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002963)  
Kumbaga, they have the school building program,

**[03:12:49.000] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002964)  
they have the patient transport vehicles which they have donated,

**[03:12:53.040] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002965)  
relief ops that they have conducted,

**[03:12:55.479] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002966)  
and other, a medical center even that they've inaugurated.

**[03:13:00.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002967)  
Pero gusto kong magtanong kung meron po silang donations or funding po para sa mental health services para sa mga gambling addicts po.

**[03:13:12.279] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002968)  
Kasi kung tutuusin itong mga working class citizens po natin na nagiging biktima po ng online gaming

**[03:13:19.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002969)  
and naging addict po,

**[03:13:21.720] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002970)  
naghahanap ng solusyon ng paraan para iwasan itong gambling habit nila.

**[03:13:28.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002971)  
And I was hoping that PAGCOR might have some mental health programs that they are funding or that they are supporting

**[03:13:37.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002972)  
so that it could be free for our constituents

**[03:13:40.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002973)  
who can't afford mental health services.

**[03:13:43.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002974)  
Meron po ba, Mr. Chair?

**[03:13:46.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002975)  
Your Honor, Congressman po.

**[03:13:49.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002976)  
That is part of our responsible gaming programs.

**[03:13:55.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002977)  
As I had mentioned, we have our partner, Seagulls Flock Foundation.

**[03:13:59.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002978)  
And sila po ay, sila ang nagpapatakbo ng 24-7 call center na sumasagot sa mga may problema

**[03:14:09.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002979)  
sa paglalaro.

**[03:14:11.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002980)  
At tulad ng ipinangako ko kanina, magsusumiti po kami ng report sa committee nito

**[03:14:19.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002981)  
para mapakita kung ilan na po yung ating mga natulungan tungkol sa mga himihingi ng tulong dahil sila ay,

**[03:14:29.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002982)  
meron na, nalululunan sila sa pagsusugal.

**[03:14:33.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002983)  
We will do that and we will submit to the committee.

**[03:14:38.279] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002984)  
So that it can be disseminated to all our, to the members of the committee.

**[03:14:44.800] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002985)  
Madam Chair, I'd like to request for a copy of those programs, the number of people.

**[03:14:49.479] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002986)  
the number of people who have been helped, how much funding has gone into it,

**[03:14:53.439] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002987)  
kasi importante at mahalaga po ito.

**[03:14:55.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002988)  
Tulad ng sinabi ni Rep. Elie earlier,

**[03:14:58.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002989)  
we do have a gambling addiction problem here in this country that we want to address.

**[03:15:04.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002990)  
We want it to be responsible, we want it to be well-managed,

**[03:15:07.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002991)  
but we also want people to have options para kung gusto nila tigilin tong habit na to,

**[03:15:13.479] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002992)  
pwede naman sila mag-seek ng help galing sa gobyerno po.

**[03:15:18.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002993)  
So, further, I just want to ask also, Madam Chair,

**[03:15:21.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002994)  
if PAGCOR, given all of its efforts with law enforcement,

**[03:15:27.600] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002995)  
is only able to address 50% of the gambling that takes place in this country,

**[03:15:33.439] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-002996)  
what programs or what, I guess, facilities in CICC, DICT,

**[03:15:41.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002997)  
can we add funding to or can we strengthen

**[03:15:45.248] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002998)  
in order to...

**[03:15:46.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-002999)  
in order for us to address all this illegal online gaming?

**[03:15:52.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003000)  
Your Honor, in our discussions since last year with DICT,

**[03:15:58.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003001)  
headed by Secretary Henry Aguda,

**[03:16:01.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003002)  
and CICC, headed by ASEC Aboy Paraíso,

**[03:16:07.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003003)  
there are certain tools that they need to procure.

**[03:16:13.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003004)  
In fact,

**[03:16:15.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003005)  
it has already been identified

**[03:16:17.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003006)  
ang nagiging problema po kasi,

**[03:16:21.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003007)  
Your Honor, Congressman po,

**[03:16:23.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003008)  
talagang because of the advances of technology,

**[03:16:26.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003009)  
talagang lahat makina na eh.

**[03:16:30.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003010)  
So, I think they're in the process now of procuring

**[03:16:35.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003011)  
or about to procure equipment that can track

**[03:16:39.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003012)  
those that are using VPNs to shadow their presence.

**[03:16:45.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003013)  
And,

**[03:16:47.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003014)  
I think that is what they will be lobbying for sa Kongreso.

**[03:16:53.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003015)  
So, as I mentioned earlier,

**[03:16:56.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003016)  
hindi ko po maaaring pakialaman yung kanilang teritoryo.

**[03:17:01.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003017)  
Kami po ay rekomendatory sa kanila.

**[03:17:04.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003018)  
And, I can say one thing.

**[03:17:06.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003019)  
The last year, our collaboration with DICT,

**[03:17:11.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003020)  
between DICT, CICC, NTC and PAGCOR,

**[03:17:15.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003021)  
has

**[03:17:16.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003022)  
really been so good na we continue to close so many illegal sites.

**[03:17:26.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003023)  
Unfortunately, kung anong bilis ng pagsasara,

**[03:17:28.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003024)  
ganon din bilis ang pagbubukas nila muli because of so many things that they can do.

**[03:17:36.399] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003025)  
So, that's it. That's my answer to your question, Your Honor, Kong.

**[03:17:41.960] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003026)  
Thank you. Madam Chair, if I may, just a quick anecdote about that.

**[03:17:46.160] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003027)  
I want to note the efforts of the NBI, CICC, and PAGCOR because I've actually joined them po sa mga raids nila.

**[03:17:55.439] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003028)  
And I see the effort that they're putting into it.

**[03:17:58.080] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003029)  
But the reason why I bring up this question is because could we have a list from PAGCOR

**[03:18:03.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003030)  
kung ano yung mga equipment na kailangan i-procure ng CICC at ibang law enforcement at magkano po?

**[03:18:10.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003031)  
Kasi I want to see how much it will cost versus how much revenue we would be able to,

**[03:18:15.826] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003032)  
how much revenue we would be able to generate from properly monitoring.

**[03:18:18.880] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003033)  
Kung meron po tayong projection na kung meron tayong ganitong klaseng equipment,

**[03:18:23.479] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003034)  
we will be able to increase the number of websites that we're able to monitor and take down, etc.,

**[03:18:30.239] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003035)  
how much we would be able to generate in revenue if we have proper policing through these machineries and technologies.

**[03:18:38.560] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003036)  
Madam Chair, if we make this investment in proper policing,

**[03:18:42.520] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003037)  
maybe we could increase government revenue in the succeeding year.

**[03:18:45.920] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003038)  
At least that's the way I see it.

**[03:18:47.640] Rep. Brian Poe** (asr-003039)  
Yun lang po. And thank you for the time, Madam Chair.

**[03:18:50.600] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003040)  
Thank you, Vice Chair Bryan po.

**[03:18:52.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003041)  
Actually, I think it's fitting because Vice Chair Bryan po is anyways defending the budget of the DICT.

**[03:18:57.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003042)  
So you can also pose that same question to the CICC when we deliberate on the budget of DICT.

**[03:19:04.399] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003043)  
But very good point.

**[03:19:06.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003044)  
Sigur po, we'll just wait, Kong Bryan, so we can also share with PAGCOR the websites,

**[03:19:12.359] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003045)  
the screenshot of the websites that you've pointed out earlier.

**[03:19:15.560] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003046)  
But it's really a matter of enforcement and reinforcement given, as Chair Al was saying,

**[03:19:21.439] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003047)  
as soon as those sites are taken down after a while, they go back up again.

**[03:19:25.399] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003048)  
So we'll bring it up.

**[03:19:29.439] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003049)  
Ikaw naman magpapreside ng DICT budget hearing.

**[03:19:33.439] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003050)  
So you can also bring it up with CICC when the time comes.

**[03:19:37.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003051)  
Thank you. Thank you, Chair Al.

**[03:19:39.319] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003052)  
Thank you so much, Vice Chair Bryan po.

**[03:19:42.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003053)  
We'll now move to the next interpellator.

**[03:19:45.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003054)  
From the minority, Representative Robert Nazal.

**[03:19:49.399] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003055)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[03:19:51.399] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003056)  
Good morning.

**[03:19:54.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003057)  
Good afternoon, Chairman Tengco.

**[03:20:00.120] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003058)  
Allow me first to commend PAGCOR and PAGCOR family for its commendable initiatives,

**[03:20:06.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003059)  
particularly the nationwide school building program and the donation of patient transport vehicles.

**[03:20:13.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003060)  
These efforts have brought real benefit to many of our communities and we are grateful for that.

**[03:20:20.319] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003061)  
If I may, however, raise a small concern.

**[03:20:25.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003062)  
Mayroon po ako kasing pending request na more than one year na ang anniversary

**[03:20:34.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003063)  
ng mga wheelchairs and mga ambulances para sa mga constituent natin.

**[03:20:39.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003064)  
I mentioned this not as a complaint, no?

**[03:20:42.680] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003065)  
But simply to ask in the spirit of transparency, may pagkakaiba po ba ang minority ang nag-request?

**[03:20:52.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003066)  
Your Honor, wala pong pagkakaiba.

**[03:20:56.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003067)  
Ang totoo po dun sa PTV, kami po nag-augment lang talaga sa PCSO.

**[03:21:02.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003068)  
At hindi naman talaga naming gawa ay magbigay.

**[03:21:05.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003069)  
Tumulong po kami. Nagpasobra na ng konti.

**[03:21:10.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003070)  
So, yung pong request niyo eh, titinan ko kaagad pagkatapos nito

**[03:21:14.319] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003071)  
ng mapatunayan sa inyong wala pong pagkakaiba ang minority at majority

**[03:21:20.479] Committee/agency brief acknowledgment** (asr-003072)  
pag ang PAGCOR po ang timitiin dito.

**[03:21:22.399] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003073)  
Thank you, thank you, Mr. Chair. Salamat po diyan.

**[03:21:25.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003074)  
So, I will go directly to my questions.

**[03:21:34.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003075)  
Madam Chair, I would like to clarify the effect of the planned privatization of Casino Filipino

**[03:21:41.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003076)  
on universal healthcare funding.

**[03:21:44.479] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003077)  
In Section 37 of the UHC Act, 50% of the national government share from PAGCOR income

**[03:21:52.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003078)  
is earmarked for PhilHealth.

**[03:21:56.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003079)  
Once PAGCOR disposes of its Casino Filipino operations and becomes purely a regulatory body,

**[03:22:04.960] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003080)  
what happens to the UHC earmark?

**[03:22:08.439] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003081)  
Will the national government share, and therefore yung 50% going to PhilHealth,

**[03:22:14.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003082)  
due to be computed from PAGCOR's entire gaming-related income,

**[03:22:19.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003083)  
including regulatory fees and license fee shares from private casinos, e-games, and other licenses?

**[03:22:28.040] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003084)  
Or will the legal revenue base covered by the UHC earmark become smaller

**[03:22:34.199] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003085)  
once PAGCOR is no longer itself a gaming operator?

**[03:22:41.279] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003086)  
Na compute na po ba ng PAGCOR with the deal,

**[03:22:44.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003087)  
together with the DOF, DBM, and PhilHealth,

**[03:22:48.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003088)  
na quantify na po ba natin yung UHC contribution before and after privatization?

**[03:22:54.399] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003089)  
And if so, can you please give the committee the projected PAGCOR contribution to UHC

**[03:23:02.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003090)  
for 2026, 2027, and 2028, and the first full year after privatization?

**[03:23:12.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003091)  
Thank you for the answer.

**[03:23:14.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003093)  
The question, Your Honor.

**[03:23:17.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003094)  
Yes, na compute na po, at ang totoo po eh,

**[03:23:21.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003095)  
kung meron pong nag-aaral niya ng lubos ngayon,

**[03:23:24.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003096)  
eh yung pong GCG, Governance Commission for GOCCs.

**[03:23:30.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003097)  
Dahil, Your Honor, Congressman Nazal,

**[03:23:35.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003098)  
ang magre-rekomenda po sa tanggapan ng Pangulo ay ang GCG.

**[03:23:42.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003099)  
Ah.

**[03:23:42.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003100)  
Sila po ang magre-rekomenda kung dapat ma-ituloy

**[03:23:47.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003101)  
or dapat matuloy ang decoupling privatization.

**[03:23:51.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003102)  
So, nakita na po namin yan, pinag-aaralan po,

**[03:23:57.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003103)  
miyembro po din ng GCG Commission, ang PAGCOR,

**[03:24:03.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003104)  
ah, ang Secretary of Finance, gayon din po ang Secretary of Budget and Management, DBM.

**[03:24:11.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003105)  
Sila po eh ex-officio members ito.

**[03:24:13.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003106)  
So, maliwanag po na pinag-aaralan po at nakita na po yan.

**[03:24:19.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003107)  
Sa aming pong internal na pag-aaral, nakita po namin na hindi po in the long run,

**[03:24:27.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003108)  
in the medium term, ah, hindi lang po magpapantay, mahigitan pa.

**[03:24:33.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003109)  
Because of the operational efficiency po na mangyayari.

**[03:24:38.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003110)  
Ah.

**[03:24:39.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003111)  
Ah.

**[03:24:39.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003112)  
Your Honor, sa ngayon po kasi, binanggit ko nga kanina eh,

**[03:24:44.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003113)  
napangakin na po ng drug ng karga ng ah, salaries and wages ng empleyado.

**[03:24:51.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003114)  
Gayon din naman po ng halimbawa ay yung ating ah, rentals sa different properties natin.

**[03:25:01.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003115)  
Ah, himigit ko mo lang po, one and a half billion pesos a month ang nagagastos natin dito.

**[03:25:07.276] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003116)  
Ah.

**[03:25:08.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003117)  
So, kapag nawala po lahat yan, eh, tataas po yung income ng PAGCOR.

**[03:25:12.880] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003118)  
And sa huli naman po, may contribution kami na minimum of 50% of our net profit.

**[03:25:19.359] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003119)  
So, that will neutralize in the long run yung pong adjustments na mangyayari.

**[03:25:25.479] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003120)  
Magkano po ba yung expected revenues natin once ma-privatize?

**[03:25:28.990] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003121)  
Ah.

**[03:25:30.080] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003122)  
And how much are you projecting will be the share on the first year or the first and second year alone?

**[03:25:36.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003123)  
Opo.

**[03:25:37.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003124)  
Wala po kasi, ah, Your Honor, ah, wala po kasi kaming control.

**[03:25:43.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003125)  
Basta yung amin lang is we remit our share to the national government.

**[03:25:49.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003126)  
And it is the national government that supposedly remits to the PhilHealth or to the Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:25:59.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003127)  
Ang liniliwanag ko po kanina pa, we have been updated.

**[03:26:04.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003128)  
Updated po tayo sa remittance.

**[03:26:06.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003129)  
So, nasa sa national treasury na po yung pagbibigay.

**[03:26:11.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003130)  
Kasi meron pong kumisang hindi pagkakaintindihan na kami po ang nagre-remit sa Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:26:19.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003131)  
Ang nangyayari po, on a monthly basis, kami po ay nagbibigay sa national treasury.

**[03:26:30.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003132)  
At pagkatapos, obligasyon na rin po at responsibilidad nila ang mag-remit sa Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:26:40.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003133)  
So, sa ngayon po, I just want to clarify this, just like I, how I answered earlier, I think you were not present.

**[03:26:47.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003134)  
Wala po kaming control dun sa remittance to the, because ang batas po maliwanag.

**[03:26:54.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003135)  
Remit your share to the national government and the national government will remit 50% of what you have remitted to the Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:27:06.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003136)  
So, what you're saying, Mr. Chair, Madam Chair, is that you have no figures on how much is being remitted to PhilHealth?

**[03:27:15.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003137)  
Well, we, it's not that we do not have figures, we do not have control.

**[03:27:19.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003138)  
But, I'll just give you an example, for year 2025, for example, we remitted more or less 50 billion pesos to the national treasury.

**[03:27:31.279] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003139)  
That means, following the intent of the law.

**[03:27:34.190] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003140)  
Dapat.

**[03:27:34.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003141)  
25 billion.

**[03:27:38.570] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003142)  
Yes.

**[03:27:42.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003143)  
But, the reason you're saying this, Madam Chair, is because, meron po bang naging deviation from the, what you remitted to the national treasury?

**[03:27:50.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003144)  
Wala ah, hindi na po namin alam yun eh.

**[03:27:53.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003145)  
Sapagkat sabi ko nga, buwanan po, we remit to the national treasury.

**[03:27:57.460] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003146)  
Yeah.

**[03:27:58.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003147)  
And, the law states, the national treasury or the national government should remit,

**[03:28:06.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003148)  
should remit 50% of what we have remitted to the Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:28:12.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003149)  
Now, whether they're remitting or not is beyond our control already.

**[03:28:16.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003150)  
That is what I'm trying to point out, Your Honor.

**[03:28:20.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003151)  
Ah, and that was asked earlier also.

**[03:28:22.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003152)  
So, kasi may akala po sila na diretsyo po kaming nagre-remit sa Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:28:29.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003153)  
Hindi po ganon.

**[03:28:31.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003154)  
Ang batas po ay maliwanag.

**[03:28:32.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003155)  
Remit 50% of your revenue to the national government and the government under the Universal Healthcare Act must remit 50% of what we have remitted to the Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:28:48.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003156)  
Considering the privatization, ah, Madam Chair, meron po bang, meron po ba kayo nakikita na dapat baguhin ng Congress in terms of legislation para, ah, mag-guarantee na ganon pa rin yung magiging,

**[03:29:02.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003157)  
income or share ng UHC sa kikitain ng, ah, sa manggagaling po sa privatization?

**[03:29:10.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003158)  
Opo, ah, kami po ay, ah, gumawa na rin ng aming mga sariling computations.

**[03:29:17.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003159)  
I think, ah, may, may certain numbers kami.

**[03:29:21.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003160)  
Pero this we can share with the committee.

**[03:29:25.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003161)  
Maybe the committee can share with you.

**[03:29:27.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003162)  
But, ah, we will forward what we have done internally.

**[03:29:31.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003163)  
But making clear that sa ngayon po, yun ni base lamang sa projections namin after the implementation of the decoupling slash privatization.

**[03:29:45.825] Committee/agency brief acknowledgment** (asr-003164)  
Your Honor.

**[03:29:50.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003165)  
Thank you for that, Madam Chair, Mr. Chairman.

**[03:29:58.640] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003166)  
Kung magkakaroon po tayo ng transitional revenue habang naglilipat ng operations sa private sector, ang PAGCOR,

**[03:30:09.279] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003167)  
ang one-time windfall mula sa privatization ay dapat magsilbing safety cushion para sa UHC.

**[03:30:17.520] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003168)  
Since PAGCOR estimates P30 to P50 billion in proceeds from the sale of casino Filipino assets and licenses,

**[03:30:24.720] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003169)  
direct UHC collections might experience transition friction.

**[03:30:30.840] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003170)  
So, is the Executive willing to commit or does Congress need to legislate a sort of transitional healthcare stabilization fund

**[03:30:39.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003171)  
sourced directly from the privatization proceeds to guarantee that PhilHealth's annual subsidy is protected?

**[03:30:46.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003172)  
Para captured pa rin po yung windfall?

**[03:30:50.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003173)  
Your Honor, we can look into that.

**[03:30:54.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003174)  
As I said earlier in another question, the priority use of the proceeds of the retirement,

**[03:31:02.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003175)  
which is now being trimmed down to about 30 on the high side because of the decline,

**[03:31:09.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003176)  
our priority is being able to pay the retirement of our employees because that, for me,

**[03:31:16.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003177)  
is a commitment to protect the interests of our PAGCOR employees.

**[03:31:22.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003178)  
So, coming from kung magkakaroon po ng difference doon sa proceeds and yung binayad natin sa retirement,

**[03:31:32.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003179)  
then I think that can be considered as a possibility na magkaroon ng cushion fund, as you had mentioned earlier.

**[03:31:44.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003180)  
But I wish to state...

**[03:31:46.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003181)  
that from my standpoint, the priority also for me is being able to pay the retirement benefits

**[03:31:58.560] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003182)  
and the special incentive package of those who will be affected by this move to decouple PAGCOR.

**[03:32:09.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003183)  
Magkano po ba yung ano? How much will we spend?

**[03:32:14.439] Committee/agency brief acknowledgment** (asr-003184)  
To ano?

**[03:32:16.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003185)  
Retirement.

**[03:32:16.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003186)  
Your Honor, you're talking for retirement.

**[03:32:18.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003187)  
Yes.

**[03:32:19.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003188)  
We're looking at about 28 to 30 billion as the money needed for the retirement.

**[03:32:36.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003189)  
Today, we have close to about 12 billion.

**[03:32:42.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003190)  
So, we will be subsidizing coming from the sale.

**[03:32:45.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003191)  
And the difference, as I mentioned, maybe that can be...

**[03:32:49.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003193)  
Thank you for your comments.

**[03:32:52.479] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003194)  
And we can study whether that difference can be used as a stabilization fund for the universal healthcare.

**[03:33:02.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003195)  
How much, Madam Chair, is the expected windfall?

**[03:33:08.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003196)  
You're talking from where, Your Honor?

**[03:33:10.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003197)  
From the privatization of...

**[03:33:12.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003198)  
We're looking at about mga 25 to 30 billion po sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[03:33:19.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003199)  
And as I said...

**[03:33:21.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003200)  
As I said, we have a current retirement fund of about 12 billion.

**[03:33:27.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003201)  
So, magkakaroon po ng positive later on, I'm sure, kahit papano.

**[03:33:33.239] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003202)  
Because existing...

**[03:33:35.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003203)  
Currently po, ang retirement fund ay nagkakahalaga ng mga 12 billion pesos cash in bank na po yun.

**[03:33:42.439] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003204)  
But after all the expenses, all the retirement benefits and whatever you need to pay,

**[03:33:51.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003205)  
upon completion of the privatization, saan po initially dapat ilalagay yung windfall?

**[03:33:57.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003206)  
Normally po yun.

**[03:33:58.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003207)  
Iri-remit?

**[03:34:00.160] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003208)  
That becomes extraordinary income.

**[03:34:03.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003209)  
And that being so, we will be remitting 50% of that later on to the National Treasury.

**[03:34:11.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003210)  
Sana nga po, doon na lang sa kusyon ilagay and i-prioritize natin.

**[03:34:15.601] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003211)  
Well, I think, again...

**[03:34:16.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003212)  
So that the UHC is prioritized, hindi po maapektuhan.

**[03:34:20.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003216)  
I'd like to thank you for your suggestion so that we can look into the matter, Your Honor.

**[03:34:26.800] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003217)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:34:27.760] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003218)  
Thank you to the PAGCOR family.

**[03:34:29.439] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003219)  
And please expect your request to be delivered within 48 hours.

**[03:34:34.359] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003220)  
Thank you, sir.

**[03:34:36.920] Rep. Roberto Nazal** (asr-003221)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[03:34:39.279] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003222)  
Thank you very much, Representative Nazal.

**[03:34:41.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003223)  
As committed by Chair Al, like all the documentary requirements would be provided within 48 hours after the hearing.

**[03:34:49.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003224)  
We will do.

**[03:34:50.601] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003225)  
We will do that, Chairperson.

**[03:34:53.120] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003226)  
Thank you very much, Chairman Albeca.

**[03:34:54.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003227)  
Thank you, Chairman Al.

**[03:34:55.800] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003228)  
Thank you, thank you, Representative Robert Nazal.

**[03:34:59.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003229)  
We now move to our next interpellator, Representative Julienne “Jam” Baronda, also from the majority.

**[03:35:11.239] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003230)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[03:35:14.479] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003231)  
This is more or less commendation of your accomplished, many things that you have accomplished.

**[03:35:23.120] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003232)  
Indeed, the men and women headed by, of course, our Chairman Tengco of PAGCOR.

**[03:35:31.319] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003233)  
It's not only good in managing PAGCOR, but at the same time, you're a good dancer, a good singer, sir, right?

**[03:35:45.800] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003234)  
So, but I would like to commend all of you for a job well done.

**[03:35:50.479] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003235)  
Despite and in spite the challenges you've been facing.

**[03:35:55.160] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003236)  
And especially with the recent decision of the Supreme Court, this would probably take more than almost 2 billion a year.

**[03:36:07.000] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003237)  
3 billion a year, including your arrears for your almost 33 years.

**[03:36:14.000] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003238)  
Diba?

**[03:36:16.000] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003239)  
So, but with your initiative in partnering with the ICT, I believe you'd be able to.

**[03:36:26.040] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003240)  
Somehow, manage the losses.

**[03:36:28.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003241)  
Now, my only concern is, this is about the implementation of universal healthcare, which you've answered earlier.

**[03:36:40.520] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003242)  
I would just like to ask if you have this, like, 5-year contingency plan, how you'd be able to still support universal healthcare,

**[03:36:53.640] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003243)  
despite this.

**[03:36:57.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003244)  
This recent decision of Supreme Court.

**[03:37:03.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003245)  
Your Honor, first of all, salamat po sa recognition ninyo na ang PAGCOR po ay nakatutulong sa buong bansa at sa ating mga kababayan, despite all the challenges.

**[03:37:23.122] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003246)  
Yes.

**[03:37:23.874] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003247)  
Ah.

**[03:37:24.465] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003248)  
Commitment po namin yan.

**[03:37:27.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003249)  
At sa abot na aming makakaya, we will continue to reach out to as many Filipinos as we can in the next few years that I am chairman and CEO of PAGCOR.

**[03:37:41.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003250)  
To answer your question, Your Honor, Congresswoman Jam, ang nakikita ko pong maliwanag na magaganap ay,

**[03:37:56.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003251)  
kung talaga pong natuloy ang decoupling slash privatization, malaki po ang magiging menos sa gastos ng PAGCOR.

**[03:38:07.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003252)  
Hindi man po ganung kalaki ang magiging revenue kung sakali magtuloy-tuloy itong challenges na mga kinaharap natin sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[03:38:17.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003253)  
Iisa pong maliwanag, liliit po ng malaki ang gastos.

**[03:38:24.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003254)  
5 billion.

**[03:38:24.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003255)  
Sa personal lamang, at sa upa lamang, at sa pagbayad lamang ng utilities,

**[03:38:33.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003256)  
ay in-estimate po namin yan mga 15 billion piso sa isang daon.

**[03:38:39.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003257)  
Ibig sabihin po niyan, yung bottom figure ng PAGCOR ay mananatiling matatag,

**[03:38:47.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003258)  
mananatiling maayos.

**[03:38:50.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003259)  
And dahilan sa automatic na ang batas naman,

**[03:38:54.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003260)  
ay nakasaad doon, 50% ng kita ng PAGCOR ay pupunta sa national government.

**[03:39:03.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003261)  
Sa paniniwala ko po, pag na-stabilize na po ang lahat ng ito,

**[03:39:09.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003262)  
tulad naman ng anong uri ng pagbabago, may tinatawag na period of adjustment.

**[03:39:15.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003263)  
Pero pag naalpasa na po natin itong period of adjustment na ito,

**[03:39:20.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003264)  
natitiya ko po sa inyo, your honor,

**[03:39:26.151] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003265)  
natitiya.

**[03:39:26.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003266)  
At natitiya ko po sa inyo na magiging matatag po lalo ang financial health ng PAGCOR.

**[03:39:35.479] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003267)  
And that means, protektado po yung nakasaad sa batas na magsishare po tayo sa Universal Healthcare Fund.

**[03:39:48.160] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003268)  
With that, Madam Chair, I believe with the good leadership of Chairman Al,

**[03:39:53.239] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003269)  
we'd be able to deliver what is expected from you.

**[03:39:57.239] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003270)  
I would just like to commend especially your program with Integrated Resorts Foundation in Clark.

**[03:40:07.239] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003271)  
Yes.

**[03:40:08.479] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003272)  
In Western Visayas, Region 6, in Western Visayas Medical Center, it is our specialty hospital.

**[03:40:16.439] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003273)  
And alongside with Center JV, we expanded the hospital bed capacity from 420 to 700.

**[03:40:24.640] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003274)  
So if you've mentioned that POG,

**[03:40:26.880] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003275)  
we're supported with your partnership with the SED Foundation in construction of the Children's Hospital.

**[03:40:36.920] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003276)  
Now we are in need of the equipping of our cancer center at Western Visayas Medical Center.

**[03:40:45.840] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003277)  
If you would also consider helping us, LIAs us, with the Integrated Resorts Foundation.

**[03:40:59.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003279)  
Your honor, Congressman Jam.

**[03:41:01.607] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003280)  
Sa harapan pong to, kinukumit ko po, kami ay susuporta at magdudonate ng medical equipment dun sa expanded hospital ninyo.

**[03:41:12.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003281)  
Tulad ng ginawa namin dito sa specialty hospital sa Central Luzon,

**[03:41:18.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003282)  
I don't think problema naman na hanggang Western Visayas ay makatulong din kami.

**[03:41:25.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003283)  
So, mangyari...

**[03:41:26.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003284)  
Nangyari pong umupo tayo at nang sa ganun mapag-usapan natin sa tulong ni dating Congresswoman Nialla Aguinaldo kung paano kami makakatulong dito sa expanded medical specialty hospital ninyo sa Western Visayas.

**[03:41:49.279] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003285)  
Umasa po kayo ron?

**[03:41:50.560] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003286)  
Chair, actually parang nabuhayan ako nung nakita ko si former Congresswoman Nialla Aguinaldo.

**[03:41:56.279] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003287)  
I hope she can be of help to us, hindi lang sa akin but buong Pilipinas.

**[03:42:02.399] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003288)  
Actually po, with the recent shooting in Zamboanga, and one of the persons, one of the person involved is may problema.

**[03:42:18.040] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003289)  
Diba, may problema.

**[03:42:19.000] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003290)  
So he needs special care.

**[03:42:22.840] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003291)  
So sa DepEd, especially sa mga spread.

**[03:42:28.960] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003292)  
At ISEC na schools, wala po tayong massive support for children with special needs.

**[03:42:38.520] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003293)  
Baka pwede nyo po makonsider kasi really need your support, especially by providing equipment in their respective schools at the same time building.

**[03:42:53.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003294)  
Kasi iba ang requirement ng children.

**[03:42:57.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003295)  
With special needs.

**[03:42:59.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003296)  
Baka makonsider nyo ito, Mr. Chair.

**[03:43:05.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003297)  
Again, it's a laudable project.

**[03:43:08.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003298)  
So definitely, Your Honor, Congresswoman Jam, we will be considering this.

**[03:43:16.560] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003299)  
And may I suggest that it form part of the agenda in our meeting with former Congresswoman Nialla Aguinaldo.

**[03:43:25.600] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003300)  
Thank you po.

**[03:43:26.159] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003301)  
I will coordinate with Secretary Angara.

**[03:43:29.840] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003302)  
For him to provide list of the regions that needed special care and attention when it comes to your support for children with special needs.

**[03:43:43.120] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003303)  
Lastly po, please know that I would always be very supportive of the programming endeavor of PAGCOR.

**[03:43:51.479] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003304)  
And I would like also to commend PAGCOR for having this PAGCOR Dakila Awards for...

**[03:43:59.399] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003305)  
Women in every Women's Month.

**[03:44:02.040] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003306)  
And last year, you've awarded several women in power because of their services.

**[03:44:10.960] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003307)  
Ang tanong ko lang po, kung ano ang mga requirements, ano po yung mga indicators for us to give awards for different...

**[03:44:30.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003308)  
Public servants, not only the local, but also in the national level.

**[03:44:39.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003309)  
Opo, ma'am, actually it's a program extended or implemented because of the requirements of the GAD law.

**[03:44:47.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003310)  
And I'm...

**[03:44:48.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003311)  
I'll be very honest, I am not privy to the details, but as I had mentioned to you earlier, I will be in discussions with the person in charge and ask her all the questions and maybe I will ask her to get in touch with you so we can clear and clarify everything regarding this project.

**[03:45:13.760] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003312)  
Well, I just wanted to make sure that this program will be long-term in nature. At the same time, can we not only include women in government, but of course, especially for our supporters from private sectors.

**[03:45:31.720] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003313)  
Again, thank you so much, PAGCOR family. I look forward to working and collaborating with you in providing best healthcare for our Filipino people. God bless.

**[03:45:44.238] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003314)  
Thank you so much, your honor, for your suggestions. I really like the suggestion on the special children. So, PAGCOR has not yet had any projects. And I think this will be an opportunity for PAGCOR to touch the lives and the families of these special children. So, we will seriously look into this matter.

**[03:46:12.032] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003315)  
Thank you so much.

**[03:46:13.960] Rep. Julienne "Jam" L. Baronda** (asr-003316)  
Because in Iloilo City alone, there are more than 500 children who are being initially diagnosed with special needs. So, in the whole of the Philippines, how many are there? And remember, the person involved in some buwanga is also someone that needs special attention. So, with this, I believe more people will be able to help. Thank you again, Chairman.

**[03:46:42.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003317)  
Thank you, your honor.

**[03:46:45.399] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003318)  
Thank you, Representative Jam Baronda. Next to interpellate from the minority, Representative Bong Suntay.

**[03:46:51.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003319)  
Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

**[03:47:23.319] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003320)  
Thank you very much, sir.

**[03:47:33.199] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003322)  
So, the earnings of PAGCOR come from casino funds.

**[03:47:44.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003323)  
Filipino operations, licensed casinos, digital gaming, e-games, and non-gaming income.

**[03:47:54.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003324)  
Now, when it comes to casino Filipino operations, because the data that I have is past 2024,

**[03:48:01.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003325)  
how much is the income of PAGCOR from casino Filipino operations for 2026?

**[03:48:08.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003326)  
For 2026, we're projecting gross gaming revenue to be down to about Php 10 billion.

**[03:48:17.040] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003327)  
So from Php 12.6 million in 2024, now it's Php 10 billion?

**[03:48:24.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003328)  
That's high. I project to hit between Php 9 billion and Php 10 billion only.

**[03:48:28.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003329)  
Now, how much is the income of casino Filipino operations?

**[03:48:32.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003330)  
I think it's 38 billion.

**[03:48:35.439] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003331)  
38?

**[03:48:36.359] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003332)  
38?

**[03:48:36.895] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003333)  
Can you get it?

**[03:48:41.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003334)  
We will be sending also the committee to the casino Filipino list of our casino Filipino properties.

**[03:48:50.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003335)  
Now, and with regards to the licensed casino operations, how much was the revenue for 2026?

**[03:48:58.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003336)  
Projected revenue for 2026?

**[03:49:00.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003337)  
Projected revenue for 2026 of licensed casinos excluding casino Filipino.

**[03:49:06.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003338)  
No, the licensed one.

**[03:49:08.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003339)  
It's the private one.

**[03:49:11.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003340)  
We're looking at about Php 31, Php 31.5 billion.

**[03:49:15.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003341)  
Php 31.5. So it's also down from Php 33 in 2024.

**[03:49:19.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003342)  
Yes, sir. Yes, Your Honor. Sorry.

**[03:49:22.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003343)  
Now, for digital, can I also have a list of our private casinos and the respective revenues coming from each?

**[03:49:31.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003344)  
Yes, what Your Honor, we can do is send the committee.

**[03:49:34.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003345)  
We can send the committee a complete list in detail of our revenue coming from licensed casinos, from casino Filipino, and from online gaming.

**[03:49:46.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003346)  
Okay.

**[03:49:47.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003347)  
These are the three major revenue drivers of PAGCOR today, Your Honor.

**[03:49:52.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003348)  
Okay. Now, for digital e-games, how much is the projected revenue for 2026?

**[03:49:59.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003349)  
The projected revenue for 2026 is Php 38 billion.

**[03:50:04.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003350)  
Php 38 to 40 billion.

**[03:50:06.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003351)  
Php 38 to 40 billion.

**[03:50:08.279] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003352)  
But the highest revenue generator would now be digital e-games.

**[03:50:15.132] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003353)  
Although as I have already mentioned earlier, now the trend is that licensed casinos are gradually surpassing online gaming.

**[03:50:27.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003354)  
Now, regarding this development, do you consider this a positive development or a source of concern na yung revenue ng PAGCOR comes heavily from e-games or online gaming?

**[03:50:42.439] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003357)  
Actually, sa amin pong pag-aaral, it is both plus and minus.

**[03:50:49.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003357-split-2)  
Plus in the sense na kung wala po ito, lalong hirap na hirap na ang PAGCOR sa pangkasalukuyan dahil pataas po yung gastos at napakalaki ng sweldo ng mga empleyado. So kung hindi po dumating yung online gaming, malaki na po ang problema ng PAGCOR sa pangkasalukuyan.

**[03:51:10.803] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003358)  
If online gaming does not come, the problem of PAGCOR in the present is already big.

**[03:51:17.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003358-split-2)  
But a minus because I'm concerned that the big licensees are also seeing a decline in revenue.

**[03:51:37.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003359)  
It's just one full circle.

**[03:51:41.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003360)  
There's a time when it's really low, there's a time when it's going to rise again.

**[03:51:45.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003361)  
Like what we all saw, when we had a problem with COVID, when we had the pandemic,

**[03:51:57.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003362)  
the income of licensed casinos really increased.

**[03:52:00.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003363)  
But when it recovered, it rebelled.

**[03:52:06.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003364)  
The revenue of this really increased.

**[03:52:12.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003365)  
Now, because of all these problems we are encountering,

**[03:52:15.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003366)  
the Middle East crisis, the economic backlash in the world,

**[03:52:22.228] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003367)  
it looks like the revenue of licensed casinos is going to drop.

**[03:52:31.088] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003368)  
But like the historical data I'm reading,

**[03:52:35.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003369)  
all the 40, almost 45 years of PAGCOR,

**[03:52:39.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003370)  
its revenue really has a cycle.

**[03:52:43.861] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003371)  
However, we can't really avoid not accepting online gaming

**[03:52:51.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003372)  
because digital advances in technology are already dictating.

**[03:52:55.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003373)  
Plus, the whole world, including the United Arab Emirates,

**[03:53:01.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003374)  
can you imagine, will already be given a license by 2027.

**[03:53:05.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003375)  
For online gaming.

**[03:53:07.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003376)  
The countries in Europe, there are already a lot of people announcing that they will also be given a license for online gaming.

**[03:53:15.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003377)  
So, if we don't worry about this and just let it go,

**[03:53:21.759] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003378)  
there's a lot of loss in our revenue for our government.

**[03:53:26.447] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003379)  
Your Honor.

**[03:53:27.856] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003380)  
I have a question.

**[03:53:29.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003381)  
Because while the concern of others,

**[03:53:32.159] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003382)  
while their concern is the dwindling revenue,

**[03:53:35.327] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003383)  
the dwindling revenue of PAGCOR,

**[03:53:37.319] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003384)  
my concern is different.

**[03:53:39.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003385)  
Where will the revenue of PAGCOR come from?

**[03:53:44.040] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003386)  
Because, as you mentioned earlier,

**[03:53:48.239] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003387)  
online gaming is increasing.

**[03:53:50.013] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003388)  
You also mentioned earlier, Chairman Al,

**[03:53:53.039] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003389)  
that usually, the one who plays online games comes from CDE.

**[03:53:58.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003390)  
So, it means, that's where the money will come from.

**[03:54:02.399] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003391)  
And then we are spending, well, you are giving,

**[03:54:06.279] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003393)  
what?

**[03:54:07.279] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003394)  
How much did you give for the share for the social programs of the President?

**[03:54:16.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003395)  
And also, the one you are using for social outreach?

**[03:54:21.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003396)  
How many percent?

**[03:54:23.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003397)  
How many billion?

**[03:54:25.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003398)  
A billion for social outreach.

**[03:54:29.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003399)  
Maybe in one year, there will be a decrease of about 15 million.

**[03:54:35.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003401)  
15 to 18 billion.

**[03:54:36.680] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003402)  
15 to 18 billion.

**[03:54:38.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003403)  
So, isn't it ironic that the one who is in charge of online gaming

**[03:54:44.927] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003404)  
is getting money from CDE,

**[03:54:47.736] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003405)  
and then we will release money for social projects

**[03:54:53.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003406)  
in the amount of about 18 billion,

**[03:54:55.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003407)  
not to mention the President's Social Fund also,

**[03:55:00.093] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003408)  
which is also being used there,

**[03:55:02.199] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003409)  
also to help the CDE.

**[03:55:04.055] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003410)  
The people who are also getting money,

**[03:55:08.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003411)  
the same class of people,

**[03:55:09.540] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003412)  
where the money is also coming from.

**[03:55:12.439] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003413)  
That's why, that's the cause of my concern.

**[03:55:15.840] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003414)  
Because fundamentally, the architectural framework of online gaming is different.

**[03:55:24.800] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003415)  
Unlike physical casinos, there are also physical barriers.

**[03:55:31.199] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003416)  
Before you can enter,

**[03:55:33.079] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003417)  
you will see if you are young, if you are poor, if you have money,

**[03:55:38.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003418)  
unlike online gaming.

**[03:55:42.199] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003419)  
In fact, this was the same question that I asked PAGCOR during the 18th Congress,

**[03:55:46.894] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003420)  
when they allowed E-Sabong.

**[03:55:49.439] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003421)  
I could not understand why,

**[03:55:51.199] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003422)  
during the time when the economy was closed,

**[03:55:55.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003423)  
there was a lockdown,

**[03:55:57.260] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003424)  
the Filipinos were unable to work,

**[03:56:01.479] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003425)  
the government allowed the program,

**[03:56:03.721] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003426)  
the government allowed the proliferation of E-Sabong.

**[03:56:09.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003427)  
The security guards, the children, the people without money.

**[03:56:14.239] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003428)  
So, isn't it important that before we open or expand online gaming,

**[03:56:23.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003429)  
we have to strengthen first our regulatory powers

**[03:56:27.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003430)  
on how to police

**[03:56:30.653] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003431)  
those who are playing games?

**[03:56:36.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003432)  
Your Honor, I totally agree with you,

**[03:56:39.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003433)  
with your comments.

**[03:56:41.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003434)  
But unfortunately,

**[03:56:45.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003435)  
advances in technology are too fast

**[03:56:48.346] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003436)  
that we cannot not follow suit.

**[03:56:50.657] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003437)  
Because what will happen, Your Honor,

**[03:56:53.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003438)  
if we don't follow suit,

**[03:56:57.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003439)  
it will be illegal for the technology to flourish.

**[03:57:00.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003440)  
Because the illegals are the ones who are saddened.

**[03:57:03.917] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003441)  
There are no illegals here in the Philippines.

**[03:57:05.305] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003442)  
We are being targeted outside.

**[03:57:07.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003443)  
So, I understand what you are saying.

**[03:57:15.114] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003444)  
But we cannot continue to fight for the present.

**[03:57:20.991] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003445)  
Because we will eat the illegals.

**[03:57:24.157] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003446)  
The illegals are continuing.

**[03:57:25.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003447)  
That's why Congressman Ryan mentioned earlier that the place we closed that he requested is now open again.

**[03:57:33.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003448)  
So, no matter how hard it is, we need to look at what you are saying.

**[03:57:42.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003449)  
At the same time, we need to do the same with our online gaming.

**[03:57:50.254] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003450)  
Because if not, we will eat our lives.

**[03:57:54.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003451)  
So, I totally agree with you, Your Honor.

**[03:57:59.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003452)  
We are doing whatever we can.

**[03:58:01.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003453)  
We are strengthening our structures and our online gaming guidelines, rules and regulations.

**[03:58:10.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003454)  
We are updating it on a regular basis based on market trends.

**[03:58:16.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003455)  
But unfortunately, we also have to...

**[03:58:22.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003456)  
go head-to-head with the online gaming industry.

**[03:58:28.338] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003457)  
Because if we do not follow this, we will not be able to catch up with the illegal operators

**[03:58:36.321] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003458)  
who are constantly harassing our fellow citizens.

**[03:58:41.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003459)  
Yes, Chairman Alf.

**[03:58:42.640] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003460)  
I totally agree with you.

**[03:58:44.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003461)  
In fact, I'm not against online gaming.

**[03:58:46.439] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003462)  
What I'm saying is...

**[03:58:48.279] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003463)  
What I'm against is...

**[03:58:51.399] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003465)  
How can we properly police the people who play online games?

**[03:59:00.479] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003466)  
How do we police them?

**[03:59:02.520] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003467)  
Whether they're minors, whether they come from the...

**[03:59:06.080] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003468)  
That's what you're saying.

**[03:59:07.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003469)  
We know that it comes from CDE.

**[03:59:10.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003470)  
And to allow them to continue to gamble...

**[03:59:15.373] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003471)  
There's always a complaint.

**[03:59:17.973] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003472)  
There's a shortage of medicine to buy.

**[03:59:19.487] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003473)  
There's a shortage of food to buy.

**[03:59:21.227] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003474)  
There's a shortage of electricity to pay.

**[03:59:23.160] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003475)  
There's a shortage of education for the children.

**[03:59:25.960] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003476)  
But usually, as your data would show...

**[03:59:32.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003477)  
They are usually the customers of online gaming sites.

**[03:59:37.880] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003478)  
And I think...

**[03:59:40.840] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003479)  
We have to concentrate first on how to properly police these people.

**[03:59:45.720] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003480)  
Otherwise...

**[03:59:47.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003482)  
Kawawa naman yung walang mangyayari sa bansa natin.

**[03:59:51.760] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003483)  
In fact, the reason why, for example, in China, why they have restricted gambling,

**[03:59:58.560] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003484)  
kasi ayaw nilang nagsusugal yung mga insek, masusto nilang magtrabaho yung mga kanilang mga citizens.

**[04:00:11.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003485)  
And dito sa atin nga, what are the concrete steps that we have tried to take?

**[04:00:19.600] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003486)  
I understand that technology is evolving very fast, but we're not doing anything.

**[04:00:29.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003487)  
Walang pinagkaiba yan. Naalala ko nung tinesting ng gobyerno yung online na motorcycle na sinabi nila,

**[04:00:40.399] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003488)  
hindi, kayaan muna.

**[04:00:41.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003489)  
Kayaan natin sila mag-operate without having a regulatory framework.

**[04:00:45.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003490)  
By the time na ang dami nang nandun sa platform, hindi na nila kayang i-regulate.

**[04:00:51.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003491)  
Baka ganyan din yung mangyayari sa atin.

**[04:00:57.920] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003492)  
I can only answer that I guess we just have to look into it and see how we can strengthen the structures at the same time.

**[04:01:08.199] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003493)  
Well, yun lang Madam Chair. I hope we really look into it and come up with ways to,

**[04:01:14.120] Rep. Jesus "Bong" C. Suntay** (asr-003494)  
to properly regulate it bago, bago ano, bago dumating sa size na hindi na natin kayang kontrolin talaga.

**[04:01:23.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003495)  
Thank you very much, Chair.

**[04:01:25.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003496)  
Thank you.

**[04:01:26.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003497)  
Thank you, Representative Bong Sunday.

**[04:01:29.399] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003498)  
Our next interpellator, Representative Mica Gonzales.

**[04:01:34.239] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003499)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[04:01:36.399] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003500)  
So I think, Chairman Al, I think you feel the sentiment of our colleagues is to protect

**[04:01:43.359] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003501)  
the Filipino people from excessive gambling, di ba po?

**[04:01:47.560] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003502)  
So in relating to that, I would like to ask, kasi ba, from the previous committee hearings of the Ames and Amusement here in the House,

**[04:01:56.399] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003503)  
I asked regarding setting a cap or setting a limit per user.

**[04:02:02.760] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003504)  
For example, meron tayong online gaming and meron tayong user na player.

**[04:02:09.640] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003505)  
I asked them previously kung sino ba nasa set.

**[04:02:13.159] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003506)  
Nang cap or nang maximum bet nila per day or I don't know how we should call it, no?

**[04:02:20.880] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003507)  
Wala pala tayong sineset na cap per player.

**[04:02:25.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003508)  
So I would like to ask if up until now po, wala pa rin po ba kayong sineset na cap or limit per player in a day or in a week?

**[04:02:37.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003509)  
Sa ngayon po, wala.

**[04:02:39.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003510)  
I'd be very candid and honest about it.

**[04:02:42.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003511)  
Your Honor, we have not set, but I believe in the online gaming law that is being proposed,

**[04:02:55.120] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003512)  
there will be an inclusion of these caps, whether caps on deposits and caps of gaming activity.

**[04:03:04.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003513)  
Yes, because...

**[04:03:06.080] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003514)  
Yun po ang, Your Honor, yun po ang gustong patunguan.

**[04:03:13.359] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003515)  
Nang parehong committee sa Senado, gayon din sa Kongreso, para po ma-address yung binabanggit ninyo.

**[04:03:19.880] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003516)  
Your Honor.

**[04:03:22.120] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003517)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[04:03:23.479] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003518)  
Next question po.

**[04:03:26.479] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003519)  
Since it was also opened na yung online gaming is mas madali, is more accessible compared to, you know, going to a casino, you know, playing there.

**[04:03:36.239] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003520)  
And we all know that government employees are not allowed to play sa casino.

**[04:03:43.120] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003521)  
And do we have, sa online gaming po ba, how can they detect na, oh, ito, ano to, polis to, oh, ito, they work for the government.

**[04:03:52.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003522)  
Mayroon po ba tayong mechanism to ensure that government employees will not and are not allowed to play, even if it's online gaming?

**[04:04:03.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003523)  
Your Honor, definitely, we are strictly implementing the KYC process,

**[04:04:11.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003524)  
meaning, know your customer.

**[04:04:14.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003525)  
Lahat po ng licenses ay dapat suriin ng mabuti yung mga magre-rehistro sa kanila.

**[04:04:23.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003526)  
At kung dumating po yung pagkakataon na nakalusot sila, yung secondary screening po naman na ginagawa ng PAGCOR,

**[04:04:32.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003527)  
and we have been very successful, Your Honor, ay yung pagvo-void ng kanilang panalo.

**[04:04:40.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003528)  
So, kung sa kanilang...

**[04:04:42.178] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003529)  
Kung sa kanilang may nakalusot na isang government employee na nakapaglaro at sila'y swinerte at nanalo,

**[04:04:52.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003530)  
bago po nila ma-withdraw yun, marami din pong screening yun.

**[04:04:56.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003531)  
So, pag na-discovery po na sila'y empleyado ng gobyerno, whether siya po'y isang opisyal o isang karaniwang empleyado lamang,

**[04:05:08.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003532)  
we void the winnings.

**[04:05:11.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003533)  
And I can say, I can tell you and members of the committee that in the last two years,

**[04:05:20.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003534)  
we have voided close to half a billion pesos worth of winnings already sapagkat na-discovery po namin

**[04:05:28.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003535)  
na ang mga nanalong ito ay mga empleyado o kawani ng ating pamahalaan.

**[04:05:35.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003536)  
Yun po yung secondary screening process.

**[04:05:40.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003537)  
Natupad po namin nitong panunungkulan ko bilang Pagcourt Chairman and CEO.

**[04:05:46.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003538)  
Pero ang mahalaga po at ang unang hakbang ay sa registration pa lamang, yung pong tinataw na KYC.

**[04:05:56.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003539)  
Unfortunately, Your Honor, meron pa pong nakalulusot doon.

**[04:06:01.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003540)  
Nagsusumiti ng fake na ID halimbawa or hindi dinidisclose na sila'y kawani ng pamahalaan,

**[04:06:08.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003541)  
eh meron.

**[04:06:10.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003542)  
Meron pa rin pong gano'n.

**[04:06:11.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003543)  
At sabi ko nga, doon pong pagsala roon, eh yun ang pag mag-reclaim na sila ng premyo,

**[04:06:19.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003544)  
doon naman papasok yung paghihingi muli ng final submission mo ng ID.

**[04:06:27.840] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003545)  
At doon nga po, matagumpay namin masasabi na naging maganda yung programa

**[04:06:34.840] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003546)  
dahil sa marami na po kaming vinoid na winnings.

**[04:06:39.640] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003547)  
Yun lang.

**[04:06:40.359] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003548)  
Thank you, Your Honor.

**[04:06:41.359] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003549)  
Thank you, Madam Chair Chairman Al.

**[04:06:44.239] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003550)  
That is for the kasino po na pwedeng puntahan but I would also like to ask if meron na po ba tayong sort of security mechanism sa online gaming?

**[04:06:54.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003551)  
Like yung mga, alam mo yung sa Facebook, yung mga ads.

**[04:06:57.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003552)  
So do we have some sort of mechanism to ensure that the player is not a government employee?

**[04:07:03.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003553)  
Yes, that is through the KYC process, ma'am.

**[04:07:07.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003554)  
Ah.

**[04:07:08.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003555)  
Yung iba po yung KYC.

**[04:07:13.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003556)  
Ang totoo, maski magsubok kayo, hindi kayo makakamagiging member or magiging player ng isang legal license kasino

**[04:07:25.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003557)  
kung ikaw ay government employee dahilan sa KYC.

**[04:07:30.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003558)  
Ang malaki pong problema, Your Honor, yung iligal po.

**[04:07:35.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003559)  
Sapagkat sa iligal, wala pong KYC process.

**[04:07:38.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003560)  
Maging sa edad?

**[04:07:40.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003561)  
Occupation or identification, yun po ang malaking problema natin.

**[04:07:46.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003562)  
Kaya, Your Honor, po ulit-ulit kong sinasabi, ang problema po ng industriyang ito ay yung iligal.

**[04:07:56.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003563)  
Dahil sa iligal operators, tinatanggap po maski minor de edad, maski teenager.

**[04:08:03.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003564)  
Samantalang dito po sa proseso natin sa may lisensya sa online,

**[04:08:09.279] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003565)  
halos, sabihin na natin, high 90s in percentage na ang dumataan sa very strict process of KYC.

**[04:08:22.560] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003566)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[04:08:23.600] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003567)  
So, last question na lamang po.

**[04:08:26.399] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003568)  
Since we have stern warning sa mga kasino operators po,

**[04:08:34.199] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003569)  
do we also have sort of mechanism of,

**[04:08:38.040] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003570)  
mechanism on players na they could be permanently blocked from a casino?

**[04:08:42.960] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003571)  
Like for example, I don't know, do we have some sort of instances na we permanently blocked off a player in entering a casino?

**[04:08:53.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003572)  
Your Honor, I did report earlier, as of today, we have a list that contains 15,000 names,

**[04:09:05.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003573)  
kung saan, they are not allowed to enter any of the casinos,

**[04:09:10.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003574)  
nor they are allowed to play in online gaming platforms.

**[04:09:15.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003575)  
Yun po ay na-generate natin sa pamamagitan ng programang self-exclusion at family exclusion.

**[04:09:24.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003576)  
Kung saan, ang isang nalululun na sa sugal ay pwedeng sumulat sa akin or sa PAGCOR,

**[04:09:33.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003577)  
para magsabing ayoko na magsugal, ipaban niyo po ako.

**[04:09:37.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003578)  
So, that ban is there for years.

**[04:09:42.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003579)  
Hindi po natin linilift basta-basta yun.

**[04:09:44.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003580)  
Pagdating naman po sa, kung ikaw ay nakalista sa National Database of Restricted Personnel,

**[04:09:53.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003581)  
yun po ay nakakalat din sa lahat ng kasinos at marami po ang nahuhuli

**[04:10:00.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003582)  
na hindi pwedeng makapaglaro.

**[04:10:05.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003583)  
Meron din po kaming family exclusion program kung saan ang isang asawa or ang kapamilya

**[04:10:12.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003584)  
ay pwedeng mag-request sa PAGCOR na hindi na pwedeng papasukin ang kanyang kamag-anak,

**[04:10:21.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003585)  
kanyang asawa, ang kanyang ama, ang kanyang anak sa mga casinos at online gaming sites natin.

**[04:10:30.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003586)  
15,000 na po ang numero na meron tayo.

**[04:10:38.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003587)  
At nitong nakaraang taon lamang, meron pong halos labing isang libo mahigit

**[04:10:45.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003588)  
ang nag-apply for self-exclusion program ng PAGCOR.

**[04:10:53.080] Rep. Alyssa Michaela "Mica" M. Gonzales** (asr-003589)  
Okay, thank you. That will be all. Thank you Chairman Al and thank you Madam Chair.

**[04:10:57.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003590)  
Salamat din po, Your Honor.

**[04:10:59.239] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003591)  
Thank you, Representative Mica Gonzales.

**[04:11:03.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003592)  
There's one more signed up from the minority, Representative Jernie Jett Nisay.

**[04:11:09.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003593)  
However, as I'm not seeing Kong Jet here, we'll move to the majority.

**[04:11:14.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003594)  
Our next interpellator, Representative Shirlyn Bañas-Nograles.

**[04:11:18.840] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003595)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[04:11:20.800] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003596)  
Since it's past lunch time already, I'll try to be brief.

**[04:11:25.520] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003597)  
I just have two queries.

**[04:11:27.560] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003598)  
Still on online gambling.

**[04:11:30.760] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003599)  
Because we've noticed, just a follow-through po sa earlier queries.

**[04:11:34.720] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003600)  
Since we've noticed that it's becoming prevalent to the detriment of the vulnerable sectors.

**[04:11:42.119] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003601)  
So, and given po the easy access to mobile portals via payment gateways,

**[04:11:52.080] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003602)  
meron po ba tayong stringent technical protocol imposed on licenses?

**[04:12:00.279] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003603)  
To prevent the minors, government employees, and even the low-income earners from gambling.

**[04:12:07.520] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003604)  
Kasi especially po yung micro-bets, it allows one peso to five pesos.

**[04:12:12.239] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003605)  
So, even yung mga four-piece beneficiaries natin, talagang marami na rin po ang nalululong.

**[04:12:18.640] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003606)  
At second question ko po, isahin ko na lang para mabilis.

**[04:12:22.880] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003607)  
In the report po, your relief operations for calamity victims,

**[04:12:27.800] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003608)  
I'm just interested to know how you allocate and operationalize this po.

**[04:12:34.040] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003609)  
If I may be allowed, I want to be a bit specific.

**[04:12:37.600] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003610)  
In the recent earthquake that happened in General Santos City,

**[04:12:42.080] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003611)  
maybe some details just eluded me.

**[04:12:44.960] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003612)  
Meron po bang assistance extended yung pub core to General Santos City?

**[04:12:49.840] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003613)  
And second po, construction of classrooms

**[04:12:56.159] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003614)  
is also included among the priority projects of pub core.

**[04:13:03.040] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003615)  
In Jansan, we have like 1,400 classrooms that were badly damaged by the 7.8 earthquake.

**[04:13:10.279] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003616)  
May we know po if there has been commitment also from pub core,

**[04:13:13.680] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003617)  
since it is mentioned among your priority program.

**[04:13:17.479] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003618)  
Your Honor, ma'am.

**[04:13:20.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003619)  
You're asking what's the process?

**[04:13:22.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003620)  
The process is when there's a major calamity,

**[04:13:26.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003621)  
Doon po muna tayo sa first question.

**[04:13:28.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003622)  
Is there a stringent technical protocol?

**[04:13:31.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003623)  
The stringent measure, Your Honor, is the KYC process.

**[04:13:36.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003624)  
Know your customer process.

**[04:13:38.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003625)  
You cannot register in an online gaming,

**[04:13:42.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003626)  
I'm sure you're referring to online gaming.

**[04:13:45.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003627)  
It will be difficult for you to register in an online gaming app

**[04:13:49.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003628)  
to become a regular customer or player

**[04:13:53.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003629)  
if you do not go to a,

**[04:13:55.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003630)  
KYC.

**[04:13:57.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003631)  
And in that KYC, as I was explaining to Kong Micah earlier,

**[04:14:05.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003632)  
bago po kayo makapaglaro, dapat makumpleto niyo yun.

**[04:14:08.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003633)  
And doon po ay nandun lahat ng datos ninyo.

**[04:14:14.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003634)  
Whether you are a government employee,

**[04:14:17.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003635)  
whether, because you will have to present a valid government ID in that process.

**[04:14:25.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003636)  
So,

**[04:14:25.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003637)  
that is being implemented.

**[04:14:27.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003638)  
Ang sinasabi ko po earlier,

**[04:14:30.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003639)  
Your Honor, ang problema po natin,

**[04:14:32.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003640)  
kaya maraming nalululun talaga,

**[04:14:35.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003641)  
ay yung mga illegal operators na walang lisensya sa PAGCOR.

**[04:14:40.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003642)  
They compose 50% of the total industry.

**[04:14:45.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003643)  
Doon po kasi,

**[04:14:47.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003644)  
Kasi wala ni isang uri ng proseso.

**[04:14:50.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003645)  
Kaya kabataan ka, kaya mahirap ka, kaya nagtatrabaho ka sa pamahalan, pwede kang maglaro doon.

**[04:14:58.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003646)  
Yun po ang nakasisira sa lehiti mong mga may lisensya.

**[04:15:04.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003647)  
So that is my answer to question number one.

**[04:15:08.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003648)  
With regard to your question number two, yes, we did support the victims of General Santos

**[04:15:17.399] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003649)  
by giving financial and relief packages.

**[04:15:27.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003650)  
And we coordinated this with the Office of Civil Defense.

**[04:15:31.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003651)  
Sila po ang katulong namin nag-airlift ng lahat ng support at tulong namin.

**[04:15:37.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003652)  
Now,

**[04:15:38.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003653)  
on your question number two,

**[04:15:42.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003654)  
aside from that, you were asking what is the process?

**[04:15:46.800] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003655)  
Pag may malaki pong kalamigat,

**[04:15:50.680] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003656)  
we already voluntarily help.

**[04:15:56.239] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003657)  
Hindi na po humingi.

**[04:15:57.199] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003658)  
Pero, kung meron po kayo sa lugar ninyo na malaking disaster, malaking problema,

**[04:16:03.840] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003659)  
all you have to do is write me a letter or write PAGCOR a letter.

**[04:16:08.000] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003660)  
And wala pong problema yun, we support.

**[04:16:10.880] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003661)  
In fact, in the last week and a half, we have sent out more than 100,000 relief packs all over the Philippines.

**[04:16:21.920] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003662)  
And some of your colleagues have received also help.

**[04:16:27.199] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003663)  
So, all you have to do, ma'am, is just write us and we will respond to the best of our ability.

**[04:16:34.640] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003664)  
Thank you, sir.

**[04:16:35.520] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003665)  
Maybe you can help us also with the classroom.

**[04:16:37.840] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003666)  
Classroom constructions because lots of our classrooms are really badly damaged because of...

**[04:16:42.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003667)  
Yung pulang kasing reconstruction, we are not allowed sa repair.

**[04:16:48.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003668)  
Rehabilitation.

**[04:16:49.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003669)  
O, rehabilitation.

**[04:16:49.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003670)  
Kaya po, itong programa namin ito, the construction of 125 new school buildings

**[04:16:58.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003671)  
having an equivalent of about 1,200 classrooms na bago.

**[04:17:04.840] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003672)  
Okay, sir.

**[04:17:05.960] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003673)  
I will...

**[04:17:06.600] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003674)  
We will surely write...

**[04:17:07.920] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003675)  
I'll communicate with PAGCOR.

**[04:17:09.319] Rep. Shirlyn L. Bañas-Nograles** (asr-003676)  
Thank you very much, po.

**[04:17:10.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003677)  
Salamat din po sa inyo, Your Honor.

**[04:17:13.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003678)  
Thank you very much, Representative Banias Nograles.

**[04:17:17.359] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003679)  
As there are no other interpellators from the minority, we'll go to another member from the majority,

**[04:17:23.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003680)  
Representative Tony Roman.

**[04:17:25.279] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003681)  
Magandang tanghali po sa inyo.

**[04:17:26.920] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003682)  
Sana nakakain kayo habang sumasagot sa mga tanong.

**[04:17:32.439] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003683)  
Ito kong tinitin ako itong Comparting Results of Operations.

**[04:17:37.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003684)  
Note that there was a decline from 2025 through 2027 projected for the income.

**[04:17:44.359] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003685)  
And also do note that having attended the session earlier, that you have been faithfully remitting 50% sa pamalaan.

**[04:17:56.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003686)  
Meron itong item dito, yung Social Civic Project. Ano po yun? Ito po yung CSR?

**[04:18:00.680] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003687)  
O, ito po yung CSR projects.

**[04:18:04.960] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003688)  
Kasama na po rito yung...

**[04:18:07.640] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003689)  
Yung pagpapatayo po ng 125...

**[04:18:12.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003690)  
Madam Chair, can you put 20 seconds, please? I lost 20 seconds.

**[04:18:18.880] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003691)  
Sorry po. Sorry to cut you off.

**[04:18:20.239] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003692)  
Pero nung the time is supposed to stop when I stop asking questions.

**[04:18:24.479] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003693)  
Pero tumutuloy, nakikita ko gumagana.

**[04:18:27.199] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-003694)  
Pasensya na po. Tuloy niyo lang.

**[04:18:29.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003695)  
Your Honor, yun po yung Social Civic Projects namin

**[04:18:36.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003696)  
that PAGCOR gives to...

**[04:18:39.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003697)  
the different localities all over the Philippines.

**[04:18:44.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003698)  
Kasama na rin po diyan, kaya lumaki yan,

**[04:18:46.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003699)  
yung commitment po in partnership with the Department of Education

**[04:18:51.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003700)  
to build 125 school buildings all over the Philippines

**[04:18:57.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003701)  
which will have an equivalent of 1,500 new classrooms po.

**[04:19:04.359] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003702)  
Maraming salamat.

**[04:19:05.960] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003703)  
Malaking tulong po sa mga distrito yan.

**[04:19:10.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003704)  
Yung classrooms.

**[04:19:11.080] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003705)  
Bukod po diyan, kasama po diyan yung mga ambulansya.

**[04:19:14.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003706)  
At ano po yung ibang klase ng tulong ang ibinababa po ng PAGCOR?

**[04:19:19.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003707)  
Yung tulong po namin ay meron pong PTV,

**[04:19:24.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003708)  
Patient Transport Vehicles.

**[04:19:25.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003709)  
Meron po kaming mga relief work.

**[04:19:29.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003710)  
Kamakamang nga po itong nakarang isang lingot kalahati,

**[04:19:33.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003711)  
meron pong may gitisandaan libong mga relief packages

**[04:19:37.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003712)  
ang nai...

**[04:19:40.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003713)  
migay namin sa buong Pilipinas.

**[04:19:46.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003714)  
At kami po meron na rin pakikipag-ugnayan sa Office of Civil Defense

**[04:19:51.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003715)  
kung saan naka-preposition na po, Your Honor,

**[04:19:55.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003716)  
yung aming mga relief packages sa mga budega nila

**[04:19:58.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003717)  
para nang sa ganun kaagad na makakapag-aksyon

**[04:20:02.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003718)  
ang Office of Civil Defense.

**[04:20:04.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003719)  
Halimbawa man, nagkaroon ng baha, hindi kami makakarating,

**[04:20:08.827] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003720)  
naka-preposition.

**[04:20:09.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003721)  
Naka-preposition na po sa mga budega ng Office of Civil Defense

**[04:20:13.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003722)  
yung aming pong mga relief packages

**[04:20:16.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003723)  
para po makasuporta sa kanilang operations, Your Honor.

**[04:20:21.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003724)  
Salamat po.

**[04:20:22.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003725)  
Napansin ko po dito sa inyong table na

**[04:20:28.359] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003726)  
parang naglalaro sa bandang 15 to 16 percent

**[04:20:32.080] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003727)  
yung social civic projects nyo.

**[04:20:34.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003728)  
Kung titinan po natin sa 2025,

**[04:20:37.279] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003729)  
nasa

**[04:20:38.634] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003730)  
ahm...

**[04:20:40.279] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003731)  
8.30% lang.

**[04:20:41.800] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003732)  
Pag tinignan nyo po yung

**[04:20:43.220] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003733)  
12,767,

**[04:20:45.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003734)  
actually that's in millions, I believe,

**[04:20:48.359] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003735)  
divided by the total income

**[04:20:50.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003736)  
compared to the income,

**[04:20:51.920] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003737)  
nasa bandang 8.30%.

**[04:20:55.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003738)  
Sa 2026,

**[04:20:57.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003739)  
nasa bandang 16% kung titinan ninyo.

**[04:21:00.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003740)  
Tapos yung projected po ninyo

**[04:21:02.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003741)  
for 2027 is about 15.6%.

**[04:21:07.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003742)  
Nakita, pag kinumparan nyo po yung

**[04:21:09.574] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003743)  
ahm...

**[04:21:12.159] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003744)  
social civic projects dun po sa income.

**[04:21:17.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003745)  
Well, basically,

**[04:21:19.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003746)  
we just project a budget for the year.

**[04:21:24.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003747)  
It is not based on the percentage.

**[04:21:26.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003748)  
Kung nangyari po yun, siguro yung nagkataon lamang.

**[04:21:29.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003749)  
Kasi meron pong taon, napakadaming kalamidad.

**[04:21:33.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003750)  
May taon naman, walang kalamidad.

**[04:21:35.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003751)  
Kaya, yun po naman eh,

**[04:21:38.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003752)  
porsyento lang po,

**[04:21:39.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003753)  
we do not, ahm...

**[04:21:40.490] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003754)  
ahm...

**[04:21:40.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003755)  
we do normally a budget lang,

**[04:21:42.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003756)  
let's say, for the year,

**[04:21:44.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003757)  
200,000 relief packs.

**[04:21:46.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003758)  
So, ganun po ang pag-ano namin.

**[04:21:48.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003759)  
We also sit down with the Office of Civil Defense

**[04:21:53.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003760)  
at saka tinitinan din namin yung mga weather forecast po natin.

**[04:21:58.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003761)  
So, yun po ang base.

**[04:21:59.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003762)  
But there is no hard and fast rule

**[04:22:02.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003763)  
as to what percentage is allocated for such.

**[04:22:05.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003764)  
Pero, halimbawa po,

**[04:22:06.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003765)  
sa projected 2027,

**[04:22:09.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003766)  
na...

**[04:22:10.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003767)  
sa tingin ninyo,

**[04:22:11.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003768)  
in millions, ano,

**[04:22:12.640] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003769)  
13,757.80 in millions.

**[04:22:15.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003770)  
So, dagdagan natin na zero yung tatlo.

**[04:22:18.279] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003771)  
Ito po pa ay batay dun sa inaakala nyo

**[04:22:22.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003772)  
nagagasusin para sa mga relief work,

**[04:22:24.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003773)  
una.

**[04:22:24.619] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003774)  
Pakalawa,

**[04:22:25.920] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003775)  
batay din po ba ito dun sa

**[04:22:28.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003776)  
pending request sa inyo

**[04:22:30.159] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003777)  
para sa, halimbawa, classroom

**[04:22:32.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003778)  
o sa ambulansya.

**[04:22:34.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003779)  
In other words,

**[04:22:35.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003780)  
sinasaalang-alang nyo ba

**[04:22:37.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003781)  
yung mga pending request sa inyo?

**[04:22:38.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003782)  
Opo.

**[04:22:39.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003783)  
Ang totoo po,

**[04:22:40.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003784)  
dito, kinalaga na po yung malaking gastos

**[04:22:43.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003785)  
yung construction of school buildings.

**[04:22:46.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003786)  
Mga mahigit 7 billion piso po yun eh.

**[04:22:49.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003787)  
7.5.

**[04:22:50.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003788)  
So, hinati lang po namin

**[04:22:52.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003789)  
sa pandiniwalang

**[04:22:53.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003790)  
hindi naman po matatapos nitong taong ito

**[04:22:56.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003791)  
yung mga construction ng classrooms na yun.

**[04:22:59.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003792)  
So, pinatakbo na po namin yung computation nun

**[04:23:02.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003793)  
hanggang sa 2027.

**[04:23:06.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003794)  
So, binanggit nyo na

**[04:23:07.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003795)  
sinaalang-alang ninyo

**[04:23:08.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003796)  
yung mga pending request

**[04:23:10.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003797)  
para sa mga school buildings.

**[04:23:11.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003798)  
Tama po ba?

**[04:23:13.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003799)  
Meron na pong

**[04:23:14.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003800)  
pinarating sa amin

**[04:23:15.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003801)  
ng Department of Education

**[04:23:16.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003802)  
kasi sila po ang nag-vevet nito eh.

**[04:23:19.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003803)  
Hindi po kami ang

**[04:23:20.183] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003804)  
nagdi-desisyon dito.

**[04:23:21.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003805)  
Ang memorandum of agreement po namin

**[04:23:23.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003806)  
maliwanag.

**[04:23:24.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003807)  
Sila po ang mag-vevet.

**[04:23:26.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003808)  
Meron po kumisang request sa amin.

**[04:23:28.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003809)  
Pinapadala po namin

**[04:23:29.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003810)  
sa Department of Education.

**[04:23:31.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003811)  
Sila po ang magko-confirm

**[04:23:33.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003812)  
ng lugar.

**[04:23:34.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003813)  
Pagkatapos po,

**[04:23:36.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003814)  
aaprobahan nila

**[04:23:36.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003815)  
at babalik muli sa amin.

**[04:23:38.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003816)  
Ang amin lang pong

**[04:23:40.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003817)  
papel na ginampanan

**[04:23:42.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003818)  
ay magpondo ng construction.

**[04:23:45.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003819)  
Kasi nung yung opisina ko

**[04:23:46.920] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003820)  
nagpasa ng sulat

**[04:23:48.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003821)  
January of this year.

**[04:23:51.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003822)  
Actually,

**[04:23:53.080] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003823)  
ginampanan namin

**[04:23:54.159] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003824)  
yung binanggit ninyo

**[04:23:56.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003825)  
na yung mismong pag-identify

**[04:23:58.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003826)  
ng school building

**[04:24:00.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003827)  
na kinakailangan

**[04:24:01.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003828)  
mismo nang galing ko

**[04:24:02.760] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003829)  
sa Dep. at Bataan.

**[04:24:04.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003830)  
January pa po yun

**[04:24:07.000] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003831)  
of

**[04:24:08.239] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003832)  
this year.

**[04:24:12.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003833)  
Hindi pa po

**[04:24:13.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003834)  
natutugunan.

**[04:24:14.760] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003835)  
Kaya,

**[04:24:15.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003836)  
kanina lang po

**[04:24:16.359] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003837)  
nagpa-receive po ako

**[04:24:17.239] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003838)  
ng sulat

**[04:24:18.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003839)  
sa inyo

**[04:24:18.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003840)  
just to follow up.

**[04:24:22.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003841)  
So, yung mismong

**[04:24:22.880] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003842)  
datos po,

**[04:24:23.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003843)  
galing mismo sa Dep.

**[04:24:24.800] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003844)  
Ginawa na po namin yun.

**[04:24:26.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003845)  
Hinihintay lang namin.

**[04:24:27.080] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003846)  
So, gusto ko lang po

**[04:24:27.880] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003847)  
malaman

**[04:24:29.000] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003848)  
kung yung request po namin

**[04:24:30.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003849)  
sa utang distrito

**[04:24:31.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003850)  
ng Bataan

**[04:24:32.159] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003851)  
ay napasama

**[04:24:33.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003852)  
at nakapaloob dun sa

**[04:24:34.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003853)  
projected

**[04:24:35.680] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003854)  
2027 budget nyo.

**[04:24:37.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003855)  
Opo.

**[04:24:38.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003856)  
Meron po kayong request.

**[04:24:40.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003857)  
Ito po, tinitinan na.

**[04:24:41.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003858)  
Pero,

**[04:24:44.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003859)  
125 school buildings po

**[04:24:46.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003860)  
kasi lang yung aming

**[04:24:47.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003861)  
pwedeng pondohan.

**[04:24:49.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003862)  
So, dito po

**[04:24:50.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003863)  
ay meron na rin

**[04:24:51.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003864)  
sa Bataan

**[04:24:53.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003865)  
na pinadala

**[04:24:54.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003866)  
ang Dep. at Bataan

**[04:24:55.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003867)  
sa amin

**[04:24:55.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003868)  
na inaprobahan.

**[04:24:57.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003869)  
Ipe-verify lang po

**[04:24:58.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003870)  
kung yun yung kasama

**[04:24:59.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003871)  
sa request ninyo.

**[04:25:01.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003872)  
Pero, kung hindi man po

**[04:25:02.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003873)  
nakasama,

**[04:25:03.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003874)  
pinaliwanag ko po

**[04:25:04.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003875)  
kanina,

**[04:25:05.159] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003876)  
hopefully,

**[04:25:06.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003877)  
sa 2027,

**[04:25:08.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003878)  
sa 2028 budget,

**[04:25:10.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003879)  
ay

**[04:25:11.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003880)  
isasama po namin

**[04:25:12.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003881)  
yung mga

**[04:25:13.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003882)  
request ninyo.

**[04:25:14.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003883)  
Pero, again,

**[04:25:17.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003884)  
yung DepEd po

**[04:25:18.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003885)  
ang inaantay namin

**[04:25:19.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003886)  
magsabi sa amin.

**[04:25:21.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003887)  
Opo.

**[04:25:21.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003888)  
Piniliwanag ko lang.

**[04:25:22.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003889)  
At kung

**[04:25:24.000] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003890)  
ito po,

**[04:25:25.323] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003891)  
i-check-in

**[04:25:25.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003892)  
kung

**[04:25:27.359] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003893)  
meron na po bang

**[04:25:28.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003894)  
kayo sa pagkakaalam,

**[04:25:29.640] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003895)  
your honor,

**[04:25:30.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003896)  
na

**[04:25:31.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003897)  
sulat ang DepEd

**[04:25:32.743] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003898)  
sa amin

**[04:25:33.279] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003899)  
na dapat

**[04:25:36.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003900)  
pondohan yung

**[04:25:37.239] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003901)  
inyong

**[04:25:37.831] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003902)  
skwelahan?

**[04:25:38.760] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003903)  
Opo.

**[04:25:39.159] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003904)  
Dahil,

**[04:25:39.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003905)  
ah,

**[04:25:40.080] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003906)  
sumangguni po kami

**[04:25:40.960] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003907)  
sa DepEd

**[04:25:42.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003908)  
nung nagpasa po kami

**[04:25:43.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003909)  
ng

**[04:25:44.359] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003910)  
ng sulat.

**[04:25:45.000] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003911)  
Opo.

**[04:25:45.579] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003912)  
So,

**[04:25:46.159] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003913)  
pero,

**[04:25:46.476] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003914)  
yung datos po

**[04:25:47.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003916)  
Kasi, ang bumalik po

**[04:25:48.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003917)  
sa amin

**[04:25:49.000] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003918)  
for 125,

**[04:25:51.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003919)  
may finalist po sila,

**[04:25:53.119] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003920)  
eh,

**[04:25:53.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003921)  
check-in po namin

**[04:25:54.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003922)  
kung sa amin.

**[04:25:54.880] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003923)  
Meron ho ba sa unang

**[04:25:55.760] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003924)  
distrito ng bataan dyan?

**[04:25:57.640] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003925)  
Hermosa,

**[04:25:58.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003926)  
Orani,

**[04:25:58.760] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003927)  
Samal,

**[04:25:59.809] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003928)  
Abukay?

**[04:26:00.397] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003929)  
Oryon?

**[04:26:06.602] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003930)  
O, Orani.

**[04:26:08.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003931)  
O, kaya,

**[04:26:08.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003932)  
Hermosa,

**[04:26:09.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003933)  
Samal,

**[04:26:09.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003934)  
Abukay.

**[04:26:12.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003935)  
Hermosa po namin.

**[04:26:12.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003937)  
Hu ba?

**[04:26:13.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003938)  
Hermosa.

**[04:26:15.044] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003939)  
Bosa?

**[04:26:15.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003940)  
Hermosa.

**[04:26:16.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003941)  
Ito po,

**[04:26:16.940] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003942)  
ah,

**[04:26:17.420] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003943)  
Pulo,

**[04:26:18.370] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003944)  
Pulo Elementary School.

**[04:26:20.599] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003945)  
O, ayan.

**[04:26:21.239] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003946)  
Ayan po yung,

**[04:26:22.479] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003947)  
ah,

**[04:26:22.640] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003948)  
nasa distrito po namin yan.

**[04:26:24.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003949)  
So, ito ho ba yun?

**[04:26:25.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003950)  
Opo.

**[04:26:25.880] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003951)  
Pulo.

**[04:26:26.279] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003952)  
Meron po sa Orani

**[04:26:27.600] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003953)  
ding isa,

**[04:26:29.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003954)  
Governor Efren

**[04:26:30.880] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003955)  
V. Pascual.

**[04:26:31.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003956)  
Opo.

**[04:26:32.145] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003957)  
Eh,

**[04:26:32.800] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003958)  
and Orani

**[04:26:34.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003959)  
Integrated Central School.

**[04:26:36.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003960)  
Okay.

**[04:26:37.013] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003961)  
Ngayon,

**[04:26:37.479] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003962)  
pag pumasok po,

**[04:26:38.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003963)  
just to understand the process,

**[04:26:39.960] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003964)  
pag pumasok po sa listahan yan,

**[04:26:41.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003965)  
tulad yan,

**[04:26:42.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003966)  
meron tatlo tayo

**[04:26:42.800] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003967)  
yung natukoy

**[04:26:43.960] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003968)  
na paaralan

**[04:26:45.439] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003969)  
na galing mismo sa DepEd.

**[04:26:47.720] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003970)  
Ano ko kasiguradohan

**[04:26:49.159] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003971)  
na

**[04:26:50.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-003972)  
mapopondohan po yan?

**[04:26:53.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003973)  
Um,

**[04:26:54.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003974)  
to be honest and candid,

**[04:26:56.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003975)  
Your Honor,

**[04:26:57.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003976)  
hindi po 100%,

**[04:26:59.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003977)  
dahil

**[04:26:59.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003978)  
ang budget po is for

**[04:27:00.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003979)  
125 school buildings

**[04:27:03.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003980)  
all over the Philippines.

**[04:27:05.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003981)  
So,

**[04:27:06.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003982)  
ang akin na lang po magagawa eh,

**[04:27:09.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003983)  
titinan ko kung pa pano

**[04:27:10.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003984)  
magagawa ng,

**[04:27:10.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003985)  
ng paraan na

**[04:27:13.710] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003986)  
ma,

**[04:27:14.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003987)  
naisama kahit isa man lang dito.

**[04:27:16.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003988)  
Dahil ang instruction po kasi ng,

**[04:27:18.732] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003989)  
ng,

**[04:27:19.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003990)  
ah,

**[04:27:20.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003991)  
administrasyon,

**[04:27:21.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003992)  
dapat ikalat ito.

**[04:27:23.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003993)  
Kaya,

**[04:27:23.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003994)  
kami naman po,

**[04:27:25.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003995)  
ay nag-iintay lang ng

**[04:27:26.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003996)  
vetting ng DepEd.

**[04:27:28.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003997)  
Marami po kasi,

**[04:27:29.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003998)  
lumabas,

**[04:27:31.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-003999)  
re-recommendan ng ilang mga

**[04:27:32.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004000)  
local government officials

**[04:27:34.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004001)  
or ng mga members of the house.

**[04:27:38.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004002)  
Pag balik sa DepEd,

**[04:27:39.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004003)  
wala palang titulo yung lalagyan.

**[04:27:41.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004004)  
Yung lugar pala eh,

**[04:27:43.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004005)  
maliit.

**[04:27:43.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004006)  
Kasi, ito po eh,

**[04:27:45.479] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004007)  
kailangan ng humigit kumulang

**[04:27:48.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004008)  
2,000 metro kodrado.

**[04:27:49.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004009)  
Dahil pahaba po ito eh.

**[04:27:51.479] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004010)  
Ano ho yung proseso na pinagdadaanan?

**[04:27:53.520] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004011)  
Halimbawa, walang gano'ng issue

**[04:27:55.960] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004012)  
yung isang project,

**[04:27:57.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004013)  
isang, ah,

**[04:27:58.880] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004014)  
yung isang school building.

**[04:28:01.680] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004015)  
Walang-walang issue sa titulo,

**[04:28:03.439] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004016)  
ah, lahat.

**[04:28:04.399] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004017)  
Kung pare-parekas po,

**[04:28:05.920] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004018)  
paano ho nirarationalize

**[04:28:07.840] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004019)  
ng PAGCOR yung pagpopondo?

**[04:28:10.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004020)  
Eh, inaantay lang po namin yung, yung,

**[04:28:13.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004021)  
ano, ang, ng instruction ng DepEd.

**[04:28:16.640] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004022)  
Ah, sila po ang magra-rationalize.

**[04:28:18.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004023)  
Kayo, funder na lang po.

**[04:28:19.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004024)  
Kami po eh, MOA lang po kami

**[04:28:22.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004025)  
with the, with the local government unit

**[04:28:25.040] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004026)  
dahil sa LGU na po namin pinapanay.

**[04:28:28.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004027)  
Hindi po kami nakikinam sa bidding.

**[04:28:30.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004028)  
Hindi po kami nakikinam kung sinong contractor.

**[04:28:33.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004029)  
Kami po eh, magpopondo lamang.

**[04:28:35.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004030)  
And we will make sure

**[04:28:37.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004031)  
that it follows the design

**[04:28:39.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004032)  
that we all agreed on.

**[04:28:40.960] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004033)  
Meaning, between the DepEd,

**[04:28:43.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004034)  
the LGU,

**[04:28:45.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004035)  
or the, ah, district and PAGCOR.

**[04:28:49.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004036)  
Yun lang po ang role namin, ah, Your Honor.

**[04:28:52.199] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004037)  
Maraming salamat po sa clarification.

**[04:28:54.239] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004038)  
Sana ho, ah, gumalaw po yung aking request

**[04:28:57.920] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004039)  
para sa aking distrito.

**[04:28:59.040] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004040)  
Sorry, I had to, I have to fight for my district.

**[04:29:01.560] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004041)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[04:29:02.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004042)  
Ah, I can assure you, we will look into it.

**[04:29:04.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004043)  
In fact, that's the reason why we have the list with us.

**[04:29:08.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004044)  
We can confirm.

**[04:29:09.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004045)  
And we have confirmed that there are three,

**[04:29:12.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004046)  
in your district, ah,

**[04:29:14.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004047)  
maybe I will also candidly tell you,

**[04:29:17.239] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004048)  
at the most, maybe you can get one.

**[04:29:20.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004049)  
But you will not be able to get more than one.

**[04:29:22.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004050)  
Because, as I said,

**[04:29:24.720] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004051)  
125 lang po yung budget natin.

**[04:29:27.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004052)  
One is better than nothing po.

**[04:29:29.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004053)  
Opo.

**[04:29:30.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004054)  
Maraming salamat po.

**[04:29:30.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004055)  
Umasa po kayo, we will look into the matter.

**[04:29:31.610] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004056)  
Maraming salamat.

**[04:29:32.800] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004057)  
And we will speak to you right after the hearing.

**[04:29:37.479] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004058)  
Salamat po, Your Honor.

**[04:29:39.319] Rep. Antonino B. Roman III** (asr-004059)  
Thank you, ah, Chairman Al.

**[04:29:40.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004060)  
Thank you, Representative Roman.

**[04:29:43.317] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004061)  
We'll now move to our final interpellator from the majority,

**[04:29:47.920] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004062)  
Representative Miro Quimbo.

**[04:29:50.840] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004063)  
very much chairman I will promise that this will be short but but people okay

**[04:29:57.560] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004064)  
Good afternoon, Chairman Tengco and the PAGCOR family.

**[04:30:03.680] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004065)  
colleague congresswoman ginaldo magandang hapon posa in your chairman al

**[04:30:12.159] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004066)  
I have a I have a question luncherman Alice along do you confirm as we had

**[04:30:18.159] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004067)  
discussed before that meron listen shang na a big ice a marikina for the opening

**[04:30:24.000] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004068)  
of a casino in the past yes I do confirm your honor may we know unknown status

**[04:30:31.765] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004069)  
come to live a bit Oh Indina I the late the latest that we have heard is indiana

**[04:30:42.963] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004071)  
of a total and we are just the proponents have gone to PAGCOR if I'm

**[04:30:52.800] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004072)  
not mistaken your honor sometime in May or April and they're looking now at the

**[04:31:02.439] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004073)  
possibility of moving it to another site I'm a young boy magandang balita para

**[04:31:07.656] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004074)  
pusa amen papa salamat po kameza confirmation in your name Dina Puma to

**[04:31:13.118] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004076)  
papu-yump one standing on entrada Ahyuto

**[04:31:19.083] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004077)  
des want express my my position that as far as this representation is concerned

**[04:31:23.439] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004078)  
I don't think it is fit to be placed in a government facility owned by the city

**[04:31:29.800] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004079)  
it's not very ideal seguro may nibarra posture papega's supported amount uh

**[04:31:35.479] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004080)  
initiatives podcasts all part of our martial here in a teeth to create all up

**[04:31:54.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004081)  
Actually, umasa po kayo, Congressman Miro, na akin pong titingnan muli.

**[04:32:01.880] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004082)  
Pero uulitin ko po, sa pagkakaalam ko, hindi na po

**[04:32:05.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004083)  
matutuloy doon sa original site yung

**[04:32:09.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004085)  
kasinong binabanggit ninyo.

**[04:32:12.640] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004085-split-2)  
Maraming salamat po, Chairman.

**[04:32:14.560] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004085-split-3)  
We will update you also.

**[04:32:16.040] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004086)  
Yes po. Yes po.

**[04:32:17.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004086-split-2)  
We will update you on the latest developments, Congressman Miro.

**[04:32:21.040] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004086-split-3)  
So, since puro bagong paaralan ang pinag-uusapan,

**[04:32:27.319] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004087)  
Pero kami po ay pinalad noong 2014 na

**[04:32:30.199] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004088)  
nabigyan po kami ng paaralan sa Marikina

**[04:32:33.439] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004089)  
ng PAGCOR.

**[04:32:34.840] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004094)  
Ang tanong na lang po siguro namin, since naiintindihan po namin na bilang na bilang po inyong pondo,

**[04:32:40.119] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004095)  
at napakarami pong congressman na makukulit.

**[04:32:42.600] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004096)  
Para maghanap po ng suporta sa inyo, baka naman po pwede sa amin maliit na bagay yung pagpapaayos or repairs ng school.

**[04:32:51.920] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004097)  
Pwede po ba yun?

**[04:32:52.520] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004098)  
Kasi never ko pa nadinig po yung, nakatatak pa rin po kasi doon yung inyong pangalan.

**[04:32:57.720] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004099)  
So, baka naman po pwede pagtulungan natin ng minor repairs lang po yung paaralan.

**[04:33:02.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004100)  
Sige po, tingnan natin.

**[04:33:04.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004101)  
Ang totoo po, we are not allowed to do renovation.

**[04:33:08.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004102)  
But pwede po natin pag-usapan.

**[04:33:11.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004103)  
Tingnan natin.

**[04:33:11.879] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004104)  
Kung hindi naman malaki.

**[04:33:13.480] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004105)  
Susulat po, kung hindi po kalaki yan.

**[04:33:15.480] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004106)  
Opo, pagkita lang natin.

**[04:33:18.000] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004108)  
Mangyari po sana, Your Honor, nasulatan niyo po ako.

**[04:33:21.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004109)  
Opo.

**[04:33:22.119] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004110)  
Para matinan po natin yung inyong kahilingan.

**[04:33:24.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004111)  
Kasi nagbita ka na po yung mga tiles, yung mga lumang technology.

**[04:33:29.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004112)  
Dati pong PAGCOR ang pondo dito.

**[04:33:31.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004113)  
PAGCOR talaga. PAGCOR ang gumawa.

**[04:33:33.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004115)  
PAGCOR building po yun.

**[04:33:34.520] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004116)  
Opo, tingnan natin.

**[04:33:35.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004117)  
At iba pa po ang chairman noon.

**[04:33:37.799] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004118)  
Pero sigurado ko, nagpapasalamat kami sa kanya noon.

**[04:33:41.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004119)  
Pero di hamak masalaman.

**[04:33:41.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004120)  
Mas magaling at mas magandang lalaki makisig ang chairman ngayon ng PAGCOR.

**[04:33:46.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004121)  
Siguro naman, mahapyawan lang kami ng kaunti.

**[04:33:49.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004122)  
Ano po, ha?

**[04:33:50.000] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004123)  
Opo.

**[04:33:51.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004124)  
Palagay ko po, sa binanggit niyo na yun, siyasabihin ko na sa inyo, mangyayari po yun.

**[04:33:57.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004125)  
Maraming salamat.

**[04:33:58.119] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004126)  
Chairman, maraming salamat po.

**[04:33:59.600] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004127)  
Mabuhay po tayong lahat.

**[04:34:00.480] Rep. Atty. Miro S. Quimbo** (asr-004128)  
Salamat po.

**[04:34:02.039] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004129)  
Thank you, Representative Miro Quimbo.

**[04:34:04.119] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004130)  
My apologies po to Chairman Mark.

**[04:34:08.639] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004131)  
We'll now move to our next interpellator.

**[04:34:11.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004132)  
Ito, totoo.

**[04:34:11.760] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004133)  
Bada po talaga.

**[04:34:14.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004134)  
Representative Mark Cojuangco.

**[04:34:17.320] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004135)  
Hello, Madam Chair.

**[04:34:24.680] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004136)  
This representation would like to thank and congratulate the PAGCOR for the continuous good work and service to our society.

**[04:34:42.080] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004138)  
I have a question about the hospitals.

**[04:34:45.480] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004139)  
Are you also funding hospitals?

**[04:34:49.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004140)  
Your Honor, we are not.

**[04:34:55.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004141)  
PAGCOR, as it is, is not funding the construction of hospitals.

**[04:35:00.359] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004142)  
But rather, our foundations are the ones helping out.

**[04:35:07.561] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004143)  
And recently, most recently...

**[04:35:09.959] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004144)  
Just in the last week of July, we inaugurated a multi-specialty hospital in Clark.

**[04:35:18.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004145)  
And that was funded by Bloomberry Foundation, which is the foundation arm of Solair.

**[04:35:28.920] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004146)  
So they did budget and they spent more than a billion pesos.

**[04:35:35.480] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004147)  
And PAGCOR helped in purchasing equipment.

**[04:35:39.004] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004148)  
And now, we have the equipment that is going to be used for the said hospital.

**[04:35:44.320] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004149)  
So, that is the situation.

**[04:35:47.279] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004150)  
Case-to-case basis, it is the foundations of the different licenses that normally fund these big-ticket items.

**[04:36:00.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004151)  
Because, Your Honor, when it comes to big-tickets, we will be spreading ourselves very thinly.

**[04:36:07.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004152)  
So, we solicit the help.

**[04:36:08.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004153)  
The help of the foundations of the different hospitals.

**[04:36:13.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004154)  
Another case is the Conrado Estrella Hospital in Pangasinan.

**[04:36:20.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004155)  
I know, Your Honor, that you are there.

**[04:36:23.319] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004156)  
It is just a small hospital.

**[04:36:25.799] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004157)  
But we were able to, I think, give 100 million pesos during the time of my predecessor.

**[04:36:34.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004158)  
And then, there was only equipment needed.

**[04:36:37.139] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004159)  
That is where I came in and we helped in the Conrado Estrella District Hospital.

**[04:36:46.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004160)  
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

**[04:36:51.480] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004161)  
Yes, the Conrado Estrella is in the 6th District of Pangasinan.

**[04:36:59.160] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004162)  
I represent the 2nd District of Pangasinan.

**[04:37:03.840] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004163)  
So, this representation...

**[04:37:10.719] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004171)  
And it so happens that the amount that we are looking at for a hospital is around the one billion mark

**[04:37:18.879] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004172)  
you were talking about.

**[04:37:23.320] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004173)  
If Faggoy cannot help with that,

**[04:37:28.480] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004174)  
So can it help, such that the amount that the DOH has to carry...

**[04:37:36.840] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004175)  
Could there be a response?

**[04:37:39.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004176)  
the lesson um your honor the problem there is um you have to liquidate the whatever we give

**[04:37:50.439] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004177)  
so so long as you are not able to do so you will be restricted from receiving any aid from PAGCOR

**[04:38:00.760] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004178)  
because that is the law so meaning the problem that i see there uh your honor is uh if you will

**[04:38:08.160] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004179)  
be able to get a funding from the doh that will not be sufficient and let's say we to help you

**[04:38:16.400] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004180)  
we're also able to to donate a certain amount and despite that you will not be able to complete the

**[04:38:24.879] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004181)  
project um you might you will be barred uh from

**[04:38:31.199] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004182)  
receiving any form of aid or support from PAGCOR which has happened uh in a few instances and they

**[04:38:44.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004183)  
have to finish the project and sometimes the project takes years to complete and you will

**[04:38:50.959] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004184)  
be sacrificing the possibility of receiving other support so that's the reason why under our charter

**[04:39:00.719] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004185)  
it is uh we're being directed to cons help construct rather than i mean help construct one

**[04:39:10.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004186)  
that is funded to be completed rather than just giving out an amount that will just be added

**[04:39:19.779] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004187)  
hospital will con consist of several buildings anyway you know so maybe a portion yeah so portion

**[04:39:29.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004188)  
can be

**[04:39:30.639] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004189)  
funded by course or maybe may i suggest your honor maybe even better would be the

**[04:39:38.080] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004190)  
hospital equipment yes it can be used in a completed building of yours exactly that is

**[04:39:43.760] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004191)  
where maybe we can we can help you your honor yeah mr chairman uh i'd just like uh you the PAGCOR to

**[04:39:51.400] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004192)  
know that uh the district two of pangasinan is the second most populous district in the entire province

**[04:40:00.718] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004193)  
we have six districts but uh ever since uh this president uh assumed office in 2022 our district

**[04:40:11.040] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004194)  
has received the least uh to the tune of uh more than two and a half billion pesos there is two

**[04:40:20.520] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004195)  
more years uh of this administration before it expires and i'm hell-bent on trying to at least be

**[04:40:30.600] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004196)  
at par with uh the other districts in the province so any help that pagor can give to

**[04:40:41.520] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004197)  
kind of make up for that shortfall will be greatly appreciated this is the same appeal

**[04:40:48.760] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004198)  
that i have made to the doh to the dpwh uh etc to all agencies of government so i just like you to

**[04:41:00.600] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004199)  
know that uh mr chairman yeah your honor as i had mentioned uh maybe if you're in the process of

**[04:41:08.958] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004200)  
completing one of the many buildings you had mentioned then we can possibly look into the

**[04:41:16.240] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004201)  
possibility of us working together for uh hospital equipment that or or whatever equipment you will

**[04:41:24.840] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004202)  
need so that the this said completed project hospital project that you have

**[04:41:30.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004203)  
can already run and can be operational so may i request your honor that you write us a letter

**[04:41:38.680] PAGCOR Chairman and CEO Alejandro H. Tengco** (asr-004204)  
and from there we can set a meeting and we can further discuss the possibilities that we can work

**[04:41:49.760] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004205)  
we will do so uh mr chairman madam chair and uh we will pursue that line of that recommendation

**[04:42:00.958] Rep. Mark O. Cojuangco** (asr-004206)  
to the government and to PAGCOR thank you so much uh madam chair that ends my line of questioning

**[04:42:11.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004207)  
Thank you, Representative Mark Cojuangco.

**[04:44:17.467] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004208)  
briefing is suspended

**[04:48:17.638] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-004209)  
Madam Chair, I don't have a question for the Chairman. It should be for Attorney Aguinaldo.

**[04:48:26.878] Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand L. Hernandez** (asr-004210)  
Just a joke. Don't forget the 2nd District, South Cotabato. Thank you.

**[04:48:33.240] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004211)  
With that manifestation from Senior Deputy Speaker Ferdinand Hernandez,

**[04:48:37.840] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004212)  
looking at the room and the list of interpellators, it seems like we're done with the interpellations for today.

**[04:48:48.040] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004213)  
Given that, may I hear a motion?

**[04:48:52.680] Committee member (motion mover)** (asr-004214)  
I move that we terminate the budget briefing of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation, Madam Chair.

**[04:49:01.474] Committee member** (asr-004215)  
Second.

**[04:49:03.680] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004216)  
There is a motion to terminate the budget briefing of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation.

**[04:49:09.520] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004217)  
It has been duly seconded. The motion is carried.

**[04:49:14.214] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004218)  
Thank you very much.

**[04:49:15.958] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004219)  
only five hours.

**[04:49:17.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004220)  
I was going to say that last year it took us 9 hours.

**[04:49:20.638] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004221)  
I hope in my final year it will only be 1 hour.

**[04:49:23.878] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004222)  
Thank you, Chairman Alejandro H. Tengco.

**[04:49:29.320] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004223)  
Thank you to the officials of PAGCOR.

**[04:49:32.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004224)  
Thank you, of course, to our colleagues for the active participation in today's briefing.

**[04:49:39.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004225)  
Chair Al, we'll just coordinate with the PAGCOR officials with regard to all the data requests.

**[04:49:50.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004226)  
Again, thank you very much, Chairman Alejandro H. Tengco, and to the PAGCOR family for making time

**[04:49:55.878] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004227)  
and being available in the rescheduled time for the briefing of the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation.

**[04:50:06.718] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004228)  
And with that, the committee proceedings are hereby suspended here in Romaldes Hall

**[04:50:13.080] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004229)  
and will resume at 3 p.m. for the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office

**[04:50:18.000] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004230)  
Budget Briefing.

**[04:50:18.958] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004231)  
But just to clarify the said motion, there are now concurrent hearings going on in different rooms

**[04:50:26.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004232)  
for the Department of Justice and the Department of Trade and Industry.

**[04:50:30.160] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004233)  
So the suspension only applies for the briefing here in Romaldes Hall.

**[04:50:35.280] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004234)  
The briefing here in Romaldes Hall is hereby suspended until 3 p.m.

**[04:50:42.200] Rep. Mikaela Angela B. Suansing** (asr-004235)  
for the briefing of the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office.