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    "title": "House Committee on Appropriations: PCO - August 27, 2026",
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      "text": "Gomez promised a consolidated restoration submission, including IBC's roughly ₱50 million arbitration obligation. He assured members that Congress TV would move to PTV if needed after privatization, while the broader employee and program arrangements still depended on the final plan. PIA committed to initial work on its donated Region X office site if funding became available. Members pledged to pursue amendments; no restored appropriation was approved in this hearing.",
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          "text": "Gomez reported that PCO proper had obligated 87.51% of released appropriations in 2025 and disbursed 84.79% of obligations, with procurement and leadership transitions contributing to delays. As of August 15, 2026, he reported 36.72% obligation and 83.49% disbursement rates after the return of funds, citing energy-emergency austerity and reduced ASEAN activities. He committed to faster procurement and a second-semester catch-up plan. Although PCO reported exceeding physical targets, it was revising indicators to better capture digital reach, engagement and public feedback. The presentation also reported staffing vacancies and a fourth consecutive unmodified COA opinion on PCO's financial statements.",
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          "text": "PTV General Manager Lino S. Cayetano sought restoration of its PHP 1.7 billion request, compared with PHP 138 million proposed, while describing PHP 5-7 billion as a competitive-broadcaster estimate rather than its formal request. Rep. Brian Poe asked for the omitted PHP 20 million PIA temporary-office rent during retrofit. PCO Secretary David M. Gomez identified a missing PHP 128 million Tier 2 request for more Bagong Pilipinas Studios. Deputy Speaker Yevgeny Vincente B. Emano backed capital funding for PIA Region X, with initial work conditional on funds becoming available. None of these additions was approved in the briefing. Cayetano also said PHP 136 million in the same exchange before saying PHP 138 million; the presentation used PHP 138 million, and the oral difference was not reconciled.",
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          "text": "Rep. Ziaur-Rahman \"Zia\" Alonto Adiong formally sought reconsideration of the PCO family original requests when the budget returned to the mother committee. Presiding Rep. Alexandria \"Queenie\" Gonzales directed the issue to the later budget amendment review process; she did not declare the requested amounts restored. Rep. Brian Raymund S. Yamsuan pledged to push for increases beyond restoration, including PTV and IBC needs, and asked PCO for an official submission. PCO Secretary David M. Gomez said the items discussed had been in PCO original proposal and promised the original request, cut-item list and justifications. The closing motions only ended and suspended the hearing.",
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          "text": "Nazal asked why the department's proposed allocation fell while PIA's increased. Gomez attributed part of PCO proper's reduction to the end of the Philippines' ASEAN hosting year, and said the major reason for PIA's increase was retrofitting its deteriorated, 44-year-old building. On vacant leadership and other critical posts, he said some appointments were being processed and others were covered by an optimization plan submitted to DBM.",
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          "text": "PTV General Manager Lino S. Cayetano sought restoration of PTV's ₱1.7 billion request, contrasting the ₱138 million allocation with his estimate that a competitive broadcaster would require ₱5–7 billion. He reported reaching about 30% of households; equipment repairs could bring that to around 42%, with three additional towers potentially taking it above 50%. He also stressed digital content rather than treating towers as the only route to audiences. Nazal urged clearer explanations of services such as YAKAP and the P3 lending program, including where and how people could obtain assistance. PCO Undersecretary Ramon A. Ilagan said PCO coordinated agency messaging and used PIA's local-language networks to reach communities.",
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      "label": "Rep. Ma. Victoria Co-Pilar",
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          "text": "Poe challenged the drop from a ₱122 million current program to zero and asked about IBC's approximately ₱479 million additional funding request. Gomez said privatization might not be completed by December 31 and appealed for funds to sustain salaries and operations. Policarpio said IBC had set aside capital spending and retained requirements including ₱131 million for personnel, ₱223 million for operating expenses, and roughly ₱50 million for an arbitration award to retired employees, alongside Congress TV and other government programming. Poe argued that the station's work warranted support rather than removal of its subsidy.",
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          "text": "Poe flagged the omitted ₱20 million rental request despite funding for PIA's building rehabilitation. Gomez confirmed that staff needed temporary office space during the work. Poe also questioned whether retrofitting was preferable to a new building. PIA Assistant Director-General for External Affairs Kristine Venet Q. Andal confirmed the presence of bats and said PIA had sought DENR's help to remove them, including physical removal during rehabilitation if necessary. Poe urged funding the rental gap; the exchange did not approve an amount or resolve the retrofit-versus-replacement question.",
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          "text": "Asked about PTV's condition and international industry discussions, Cayetano said ₱138 million could not build the network it needed to become. He urged Congress to examine the wider government communications system, emphasizing information that helps people use public services rather than merely promoting officials. Poe supported greater resources for public-interest stories and state media. Gomez clarified that the PCO budget represented approximately 0.03% of the proposed national budget after a different percentage was mentioned in the exchange.",
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          "label": "Efficiency alone cannot deliver every planned expansion",
          "text": "Adiong asked how a reduced budget could support digital modernization and rising demand for accurate information. Gomez proposed streamlining processes and making better use of existing resources. Chair Gonzales pressed him on whether the allocation was adequate; he said PCO could remain effective but could do substantially more with additional resources. In response to her questions about interrupted projects, he identified an unfunded ₱128 million request for approximately three to five additional Bagong Pilipinas Studios using existing agency premises. He described the studios as production and editing facilities available to government media and private content creators.",
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          "text": "Yamsuan asked about using social media to communicate public programs. The response stressed that cheaper online distribution did not make content production free: effective communication required a continuing supply of credible, well-produced material. Yamsuan urged practical explanations of benefits and laws, including how constituents could apply for assistance, and investment in communicators who could attract and retain audiences.",
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          "text": "Yamsuan backed Adiong's position and pledged to pursue increases as well as restoration, specifically mentioning PTV's ₱1.7 billion request and IBC's unpaid obligations. He asked PCO to submit an official request for discussion in the budget amendment review process and the committee, and said the need for amendments should be explained publicly. Gonzales welcomed Yamsuan and Adiong's support as members involved in that process; the exchange recorded commitments to pursue funding, not an approved amendment.",
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          "text": "Emano warned that the LGU could take back land offered for PIA's Region X office in El Salvador City if the project was not implemented by 2027, after almost five years without completion. He pledged to work for restoration or additional funding and sought PIA's commitment to begin at least initial infrastructure work, such as fencing, if capital funding became available. Andal gave that commitment. Emano also supported Adiong's restoration initiative; neither the capital allocation nor completion of the office was settled in the exchange.",
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          "text": "In his additional interpellation after the suspension, Roman questioned removing IBC's subsidy before privatization was complete. Gomez said PCO was working toward an open bidding before year-end but acknowledged the risk of delays and agreed that the funding removal was premature. DBM Assistant Director Lulu P. Vispo explained that DBM continued to treat IBC as a corporation under privatization. She said the arbitration award arose after budget preparation and that DBM had not received the award or a funding request for it. She cited prior support from the Pension and Gratuity Fund and said an amendment was for Congress to consider. Roman insisted that government should meet its legal obligations. Following Gonzales's questions about a remedy, Gomez committed to include the arbitration obligation in PCO's consolidated request for omitted or reduced funding. No payment authorization or restored allocation was issued during this exchange.",
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          "text": "On Rep. Julienne \"Jam\" L. Baronda's motion, seconded by Yamsuan, the committee terminated the hearing on the proposed FY2027 PCO budget and its attached agencies and corporations without objection. It then approved suspension of the committee hearing at Andaya Hall on House Bill No. 10858 until September 1, 2026 at 9 a.m. These rulings closed the hearing and set the committee's resumption; they did not themselves enact the requested budget restorations.",
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