# Senate Committee on Finance: DSWD - October 21, 2026

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNB2L-EJGEU

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**[00:10:24.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000021)  
Supervised agencies, colleagues in the Senate, Senator Aimee, magandang hapon po sa ating lahat.

**[00:10:31.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000022)  
Today we will hear the proposed Fiscal Year 2027 budget of the Department of Social Welfare and Development. Sa budget hearing na ito, simple ang prinsipyo natin. Kapag may pamilyang nagugutom, nawawala ng trabaho o kabuhayan, nakakasakit o tinatamaan ng sakuna, dapat may gobyernong sasalo. I’m fully aware that the House-approved GAAB provides P262.757 billion in new appropriations for DSWD, higher than the NEP, although still below the 2026 GAA program level.

**[00:11:07.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000023)  
We take note of the adjustments made by our colleagues in the House of Representatives. AICS increases to about 58.1 billion pesos. The Quick Response Fund is restored to 3 billion pesos. The Sustainable Livelihood Program increases to almost 6 billion pesos. But more money must mean better social protection.

**[00:11:31.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000024)  
Una, we must protect 4Ps as a rights-based investment in poor families and their children. If families graduate from 4Ps, graduation must mean more than losing a grant. They should have a real pathway to education, skills, employment, livelihood, and continued access to basic services. Hindi graduation ang mawalan ng benepisyo.

**[00:11:57.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000025)  
Pangalawa, we must protect our senior citizens.

**[00:12:00.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000026)  
The social pension remains a lifeline for millions of indigent seniors, yet many qualified senior citizens remain on the waiting or remain waiting for assistance.

**[00:12:12.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000027)  
At 1,000 pesos a month, we must also keep asking whether the benefit remains adequate given the rising cost of food, medicine, and transportation.

**[00:12:22.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000028)  
Pangatlo, AICs must remain a genuine social safety net.

**[00:12:27.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000029)  
Ang tulong ay hindi pabor.

**[00:12:31.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000030)  
Dapat nakabatay sa pangangailangan, hindi sa kung sino ang kakilala o kung sino ang nag-refer.

**[00:12:37.920] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000031)  
We need stronger controls against duplicate payments, but digitization must not exclude people without bank accounts, without a phone, with poor connectivity, or with incomplete records.

**[00:12:53.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000032)  
Pang-apat, we must also prepare for the Super El Niño and other climate shocks.

**[00:12:57.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000033)  
The restoration of the QRF is important, but DSWD must be ready before families reach a crisis point with food assistance, emergency cash, cash for work, livelihood support, and coordination with LGUs.

**[00:13:15.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000034)  
At the same time, we recognize DSWD's investment in disaster response and rehabilitation programs, such as Project Lawa at Binhi,

**[00:13:26.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000035)  
as well as its investment in longer-term climate resilience through the Philippine Community Resilience Project or Panahon ng Pagkilos.

**[00:13:35.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000036)  
Emergency response and long-term resilience must work together,

**[00:13:40.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000037)  
helping communities survive today's shocks while reducing their vulnerability to future disasters.

**[00:13:47.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000038)  
We also welcome the allocation of resources to support vulnerable groups

**[00:13:51.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000039)  
through Enhanced Protect Teen, Project Aruga, Project SAFE,

**[00:13:57.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000040)  
and the Special Committee on LGBTQIA Plus Affairs,

**[00:14:01.720] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000041)  
programs and initiatives that support adolescent mothers and their families,

**[00:14:07.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000042)  
children with disabilities and their caregivers,

**[00:14:10.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000043)  
child survivors of online sexual abuse and exploitation,

**[00:14:14.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000044)  
and LGBTQIA Plus communities.

**[00:14:17.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000045)  
These initiatives remind us that social protection must be inclusive,

**[00:14:21.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000046)  
and reach those who are often invisible and whose needs are overlooked in major budget allocations.

**[00:14:29.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000047)  
The test of this budget is not simply how DSWD obligates.

**[00:14:35.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000048)  
An obligation is not yet food on the table.

**[00:14:38.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000049)  
It is not yet medicine bought.

**[00:14:40.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000050)  
It is not yet a pension received.

**[00:14:42.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000051)  
It is not yet a livelihood restored.

**[00:14:45.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000052)  
It is not yet relief reaching a family in crisis.

**[00:14:50.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000053)  
Ang tunay na sukatin,

**[00:14:52.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000054)  
ay simple.

**[00:14:54.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000055)  
Did government reach people before they reached the breaking point and help them?

**[00:15:00.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000056)  
become more resilient afterward.

**[00:15:03.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000057)  
At bilang budget sponsor,

**[00:15:04.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000058)  
kinikilala ko ang pangangailangan

**[00:15:06.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000059)  
para sa

**[00:15:14.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000060)  
tulad ng social insurance

**[00:15:17.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000061)  
at social security.

**[00:15:18.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000062)  
At para sa akin,

**[00:15:20.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000063)  
tatlo lang ang mahalaga nating bantayan.

**[00:15:24.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000064)  
Napapanahon

**[00:15:24.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000065)  
o tugma ba sa krisis?

**[00:15:27.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000066)  
Tama o nakararating ba

**[00:15:29.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000067)  
sa tamang tao

**[00:15:30.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000068)  
sa tamang panahon?

**[00:15:32.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000069)  
At sapat ba

**[00:15:34.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000070)  
o enough ba ang ayuda

**[00:15:36.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000071)  
para talagang makatulong?

**[00:15:39.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000072)  
With these considerations,

**[00:15:40.920] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000073)  
I invite everyone to listen

**[00:15:42.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000074)  
to the budget presentation of DSWD

**[00:15:45.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000075)  
and its attached and supervised

**[00:15:46.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000076)  
agencies as well as those

**[00:15:48.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000077)  
of the other executive offices,

**[00:15:51.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000078)  
the National Anti-Poverty Commission

**[00:15:52.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000079)  
and the Presidential Commission for the Urban Poor.

**[00:15:56.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000080)  
After

**[00:15:56.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000081)  
the

**[00:15:57.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000082)  
presentation of the department and agencies and the questions of the senators, I also invite

**[00:16:05.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000083)  
representatives from civil society

**[00:16:07.900] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000084)  
and people's organizations

**[00:16:09.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000085)  
to prepare their questions

**[00:16:11.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000086)  
and propose amendments for the agencies

**[00:16:13.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000087)  
leading up to the plenary.

**[00:16:15.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000088)  
Kung magkaroon ng sapat na panahon

**[00:16:17.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000089)  
pagkatapos, ay bibigyan ko

**[00:16:19.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000090)  
ng tigi-ilang minuto rin

**[00:16:21.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000091)  
ang mga civil society

**[00:16:22.900] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000092)  
representatives natin makapagsalita.

**[00:16:25.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000093)  
Together, let us ensure

**[00:16:27.360] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000094)  
that

**[00:16:27.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000095)  
The 2027 budget is a meaningful

**[00:16:30.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000096)  
step toward transformative

**[00:16:32.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000097)  
social protection.

**[00:16:34.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000098)  
Maraming salamat. At this point, the chair would also

**[00:16:36.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000099)  
like to recognize the presence

**[00:16:38.360] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000100)  
of Senator Rafi Tulfo.

**[00:16:40.360] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000101)  
Salamat po sa presensya nyo.

**[00:16:43.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000102)  
At si Senator Erwin Tulfo.

**[00:16:44.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000103)  
Salamat din po, Senator, for your presence.

**[00:16:46.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000104)  
Would the colleagues also

**[00:16:48.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000105)  
like to give some opening remarks

**[00:16:50.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000106)  
beginning with Senator Aimee?

**[00:16:52.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000107)  
Oh no. Makikinig muna ako

**[00:16:54.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000108)  
dahil dati hawak

**[00:16:56.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000109)  
ko itong committeeng ito.

**[00:16:57.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000110)  
Both the committee as well as the budget

**[00:17:00.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000111)  
subcommittee. Kaya nais ko lang

**[00:17:02.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000112)  
i-follow up na talagang

**[00:17:03.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000113)  
na sasatupad lahat ng

**[00:17:06.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-000114)  
naumpisan na po natin.

**[00:17:08.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000115)  
Nagyamanak, Senator Aimee.

**[00:17:10.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000116)  
Senator Rafi, nais nyo po bang mag-opening

**[00:17:12.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000117)  
remarks?

**[00:17:12.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000117-split-2)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[00:17:15.160] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000118)  
Good afternoon, Madam Chair.

**[00:17:17.360] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000119)  
Senator Risa

**[00:17:18.080] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000120)  
Hontiveros and to our resource persons from the

**[00:17:20.040] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000121)  
Department of Social Welfare and Development

**[00:17:21.780] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000122)  
and its attached agencies led

**[00:17:24.180] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000123)  
by Secretary Rex Gatchalian.

**[00:17:26.880] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000124)  
I fully and firmly

**[00:17:27.980] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000125)  
support the DSWD

**[00:17:29.980] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000126)  
budget. We recognize

**[00:17:32.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000127)  
its vital role in government

**[00:17:33.440] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000128)  
being the agency tasked to free

**[00:17:35.580] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000129)  
Filipinos from hunger and

**[00:17:37.740] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000130)  
poverty and improve

**[00:17:39.280] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000131)  
the lives of vulnerable sectors,

**[00:17:42.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000132)  
give marginalized communities

**[00:17:43.980] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000133)  
equal access to opportunities

**[00:17:46.040] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000134)  
for development and self-preservation

**[00:17:47.980] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000135)  
and deliver essential social

**[00:17:50.040] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000136)  
services to the majority

**[00:17:52.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000137)  
of Filipinos facing distress and

**[00:17:53.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000138)  
oppression. Kinikilala natin ang kanilang

**[00:17:56.100] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000139)  
serbisyo sa bayan upang

**[00:17:57.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000140)  
mayangat ang buhay ng bawat Pilipino

**[00:18:00.000] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000141)  
na kalaranas ng kahirapan.

**[00:18:02.840] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000142)  
Kailangang punduhan

**[00:18:04.000] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000143)  
ang kanilang mga programa at proyekto

**[00:18:05.860] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000144)  
upang matupad nila

**[00:18:07.860] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000145)  
ang kanilang tungkulin.

**[00:18:11.320] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000146)  
At Madam Chair,

**[00:18:12.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000147)  
allow me to bring forth this budget

**[00:18:13.960] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000148)  
hearing a very crucial and pressing issue.

**[00:18:16.520] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000149)  
The fake PWD

**[00:18:18.380] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000150)  
IDs.

**[00:18:20.180] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000151)  
Ang talamak na pagkalat

**[00:18:21.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000152)  
ng mga faking PWD IDs na

**[00:18:23.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000153)  
ginagamit upang manloko ng kapwa tao at

**[00:18:26.080] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000154)  
sa gobyerno, higit sa lahat.

**[00:18:27.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000155)  
Ito ay isang modus

**[00:18:29.940] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000156)  
kung saan ang pinakakawawa

**[00:18:31.840] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000157)  
ay ang mga liitimong may kapansanan

**[00:18:33.860] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000158)  
na dapat sila makinabang sa diskwentong

**[00:18:36.000] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000159)  
20%.

**[00:18:37.100] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000160)  
These are the current and very alarming

**[00:18:39.880] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000161)  
facts. Out of

**[00:18:41.880] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000162)  
8 million IDs

**[00:18:43.720] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000163)  
issued,

**[00:18:45.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000164)  
6 million are fake

**[00:18:47.380] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000165)  
PWD IDs based

**[00:18:49.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000166)  
on DOJ report.

**[00:18:52.460] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000167)  
Only 2 million IDs

**[00:18:53.940] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000168)  
are legitimate and

**[00:18:55.780] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000169)  
registered with the NCDA.

**[00:18:57.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000170)  
This modus has resulted

**[00:19:00.340] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000171)  
to 88 billion pesos

**[00:19:02.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000172)  
in lost tax revenues

**[00:19:04.480] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000173)  
for the government.

**[00:19:06.600] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000174)  
And this translates to

**[00:19:07.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000175)  
166 billion losses

**[00:19:09.640] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000176)  
in revenues for business establishments

**[00:19:12.160] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000177)  
especially for restaurants.

**[00:19:15.040] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000178)  
Nakakating po sa amin

**[00:19:15.940] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000179)  
ng hinahing ng grupong RESTOP

**[00:19:18.120] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000180)  
R-E-S-T-O-P-H

**[00:19:19.860] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000181)  
at nakausap ang kanilang

**[00:19:21.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000182)  
presidente upang iparating

**[00:19:23.860] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000183)  
ang kanilang hinagpisa at damdamin sa isyong ito.

**[00:19:26.080] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000184)  
Meron po akong video na nais ipakita.

**[00:19:29.040] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000185)  
Ako po si David Sison.

**[00:19:30.120] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000186)  
Ako po ang current president ng RESTOP-H.

**[00:19:32.500] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000187)  
RESTOP-H is an association

**[00:19:34.040] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000188)  
of restaurant owners in the Philippines.

**[00:19:36.380] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000189)  
Matagal na namin naging issue

**[00:19:37.820] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000190)  
ang paglaganap ng peking

**[00:19:39.600] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000191)  
PWD. Nagumpisa ito

**[00:19:41.420] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000192)  
after the pandemic. Mapapansin po

**[00:19:43.800] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000193)  
namin na meron isang buong pamilya

**[00:19:46.060] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000194)  
yung tatay, yung nanay,

**[00:19:47.960] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000195)  
yung mga anak, ulitin mo yung

**[00:19:49.600] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000196)  
kasama pa yung yaya

**[00:19:50.700] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000197)  
na nagbibigay

**[00:19:54.460] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000198)  
ng PWD

**[00:19:56.000] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000199)  
ID. Sa mga

**[00:19:57.820] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000200)  
conversations namin with NCDA,

**[00:19:59.500] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000201)  
with DOH, and sa mga nakita namin

**[00:20:01.800] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000202)  
online, napakadali po kasi

**[00:20:03.640] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000203)  
na bumili ng PWD

**[00:20:06.120] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000204)  
online na peke.

**[00:20:08.200] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000205)  
So doon kami na alarma.

**[00:20:09.560] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000206)  
Ang verification process natin is

**[00:20:11.760] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000207)  
nagagaling lang sa website

**[00:20:13.640] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000208)  
galing sa Department of Health.

**[00:20:15.540] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000209)  
Yung website na yun is hindi updated

**[00:20:18.000] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000210)  
dahil ang nagbibigay

**[00:20:19.860] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000211)  
ng PWD ID natin is

**[00:20:21.960] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000212)  
the LGU.

**[00:20:23.720] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000213)  
We have more than 2,500

**[00:20:25.560] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000214)  
LGUs dito. And iba-iba

**[00:20:27.820] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000215)  
yung disenyo ng bawat ID.

**[00:20:30.000] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000216)  
Nagbigay ng statement yung Department of Justice

**[00:20:31.980] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000217)  
na nagulat sila na meron palang

**[00:20:33.660] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000218)  
6 million na fake

**[00:20:35.580] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000219)  
PWD IDs.

**[00:20:37.400] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000220)  
And mas malaki pa yung nawawalang pera

**[00:20:40.160] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000221)  
sa mga restaurant owners

**[00:20:41.920] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000222)  
because of the fake na lumalaganap.

**[00:20:44.360] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000223)  
May mga restaurants na maliliit

**[00:20:46.080] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000224)  
lang, hindi ganong kalaki.

**[00:20:47.380] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000225)  
Lahat ng mga margin na pwede nilang isave,

**[00:20:49.920] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000226)  
magagamit nila. Pero syempre kung

**[00:20:51.620] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000227)  
napupunta lang ito sa mga fake

**[00:20:53.100] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000228)  
na cards, sa fake na

**[00:20:55.940] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000229)  
discount, kawawa naman.

**[00:20:57.820] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000230)  
Yan ang pinaglalaban natin.

**[00:21:00.060] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000231)  
Kasi sila talaga yung araw-araw

**[00:21:02.200] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000232)  
na magsusurvive lang.

**[00:21:05.380] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000233)  
Dapat mayroon tayong

**[00:21:06.300] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000234)  
batas that would really

**[00:21:08.320] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000235)  
napoprotektahan talaga yung

**[00:21:10.060] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000236)  
PWD natin.

**[00:21:12.640] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000237)  
Yung tunay na PWD.

**[00:21:14.760] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000238)  
Araw-araw na nag-ooperate

**[00:21:16.720] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000239)  
ang tindahan.

**[00:21:18.220] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000240)  
Araw-araw na

**[00:21:19.920] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000241)  
nakakalusot ang mga peke

**[00:21:22.200] RestoPH President David Sison** (asr-000242)  
yung gumagamit.

**[00:21:27.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000243)  
Selling of fake PWDs

**[00:21:29.560] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000244)  
ay talamak na rin sa research

**[00:21:31.600] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000245)  
na ginawa ng aking mga staff.

**[00:21:33.460] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000246)  
Mayroon din mga accounts sa Carousel

**[00:21:35.600] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000247)  
at Facebook na nag-offer ng

**[00:21:37.460] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000248)  
PWD ID.

**[00:21:39.740] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000249)  
Meron pang package.

**[00:21:42.300] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000250)  
Yung iba pa nga

**[00:21:43.580] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000251)  
ay may kasama pang booklets.

**[00:21:47.040] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000252)  
Pwede natin pakita yung

**[00:21:47.780] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000253)  
slides. Ayan po.

**[00:21:49.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000254)  
Talamak ang bendahan ng mga

**[00:21:51.000] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000255)  
PWD IDs

**[00:21:52.460] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000256)  
sa Facebook.

**[00:21:56.100] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000257)  
Anong ginagawa ng

**[00:21:57.120] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000258)  
NCDA?

**[00:22:00.220] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000259)  
Ito pong masaklap, Madam Chair.

**[00:22:03.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000260)  
Maraming kakilala

**[00:22:03.900] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000261)  
na pagkalaki-laki

**[00:22:06.020] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000262)  
ng katawan,

**[00:22:07.800] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000263)  
tambay sa basketball

**[00:22:08.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000264)  
at meron siyang PWD ID.

**[00:22:12.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000265)  
Lalaaki ito. Tinanong ko siya, pare,

**[00:22:13.720] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000266)  
ba't meron kang PWD ID?

**[00:22:16.200] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000267)  
Ano yung kapansana mo?

**[00:22:17.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000268)  
Hindi, psychosocial ako.

**[00:22:19.300] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000269)  
Totoo yan. Napakarami

**[00:22:21.500] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000270)  
mga tao ang lalaki ng katawan

**[00:22:22.960] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000271)  
may mga magagandang trabaho

**[00:22:25.300] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000272)  
and yet may PWD ID.

**[00:22:26.740] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000273)  
Paano?

**[00:22:27.120] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000274)  
Mga kalusot mga ito.

**[00:22:28.740] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000275)  
Of course, walang problema sa akin

**[00:22:30.020] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000276)  
kung talagang tunay na may kapansanan.

**[00:22:31.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000277)  
Siguro it's time na we have to define

**[00:22:33.720] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000278)  
ano ba talaga

**[00:22:34.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000279)  
ang mga requirements bago makatanggap

**[00:22:38.360] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000280)  
ng PWD ID ang isang tao.

**[00:22:40.320] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000281)  
Anong klaseng makapansanan?

**[00:22:41.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000282)  
Kasi halos lahat mga kilala ko

**[00:22:44.320] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000283)  
na may PWD ID na ang lalaki ng katawan

**[00:22:47.100] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000284)  
nakalagay doon psychosocial.

**[00:22:50.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000285)  
Meron pa nga sabi ko,

**[00:22:51.580] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000286)  
ba't ka merong PWD ID?

**[00:22:53.420] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000287)  
Kasi may sinusitis ako eh.

**[00:22:54.680] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000288)  
At binigyan ng doktor.

**[00:22:57.120] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000289)  
Meron pa ako alam, basketballista.

**[00:22:59.720] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000290)  
Mga basketball player, Madam Chair,

**[00:23:02.000] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000291)  
medyo nabalian lang.

**[00:23:04.300] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000292)  
Pupunta ng hospital.

**[00:23:05.180] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000293)  
O, pera ng doktor.

**[00:23:06.280] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000294)  
Gusto mo, bigyan kita ang PWD ID.

**[00:23:07.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000295)  
Sige, bigyan.

**[00:23:08.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000296)  
And then permanently,

**[00:23:10.040] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000297)  
permanent na yung PWD ID.

**[00:23:12.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000298)  
Naabuso po yung PWD ID

**[00:23:16.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000299)  
at ang kawawa po dito

**[00:23:17.220] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000300)  
yung mga malilit na tindahan,

**[00:23:19.660] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000301)  
restaurant.

**[00:23:20.300] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000302)  
Saan ka nakikita yung isang tao

**[00:23:23.220] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000303)  
na magandang trabaho,

**[00:23:26.120] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000304)  
malaking katawan,

**[00:23:27.120] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000305)  
o punta sa restaurant

**[00:23:28.580] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000306)  
o order ng lobster, crabs,

**[00:23:30.980] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000307)  
para makuha ng 20%.

**[00:23:31.980] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000308)  
Tapos niya naakit sa hotel,

**[00:23:33.260] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000309)  
mag-check-in,

**[00:23:34.160] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000310)  
20% na naman.

**[00:23:35.340] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000311)  
Naabuso po talaga itong PWD ID

**[00:23:37.100] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000312)  
at ang nakikita kong problema rito,

**[00:23:39.540] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000313)  
siguro from now on,

**[00:23:40.900] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000314)  
meron kasi mga PWD ID na legit.

**[00:23:45.540] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000315)  
Pero fake naman yung cardholder.

**[00:23:49.380] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000316)  
Wala naman talagang sakit.

**[00:23:50.960] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000317)  
Pero mas marami yung fake na PWD ID.

**[00:23:53.420] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000318)  
It's about time that we have to address this issue

**[00:23:56.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000319)  
na para naman mabawasan yung pamimaking ng PWD ID

**[00:23:59.860] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000320)  
at mabigyan yung karapat-dapat talaga

**[00:24:02.400] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000321)  
na mga taong may kapansanan.

**[00:24:05.920] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000322)  
Kasi ang premise naman talaga ng batas

**[00:24:08.160] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000323)  
kaya nagkaroon tayo ng discount sa mga PWDs

**[00:24:12.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000324)  
ay sila ay matulungan,

**[00:24:15.020] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000325)  
mapagaan yung kanilang kalagayan

**[00:24:16.800] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000326)  
and most of them walang trabaho,

**[00:24:19.580] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000327)  
hindi makapagtrabaho.

**[00:24:20.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000328)  
Makapagtrabaho man, part-time lang

**[00:24:22.380] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000329)  
and then malaking gastusin sa gamot.

**[00:24:26.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000330)  
Pero paano itong mga taong alam ko

**[00:24:30.260] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000331)  
may mga trabaho above minimum

**[00:24:33.520] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000332)  
ang lalaki ng katawan

**[00:24:34.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000333)  
and yet nagkakaroon ng fake PWD IDs?

**[00:24:38.940] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000334)  
Ang tanong nasa National Center for Disability Affairs

**[00:24:41.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000335)  
kayong hensyang natasang siguraduhin

**[00:24:44.100] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000336)  
maayos ang implementasyon ng lahat ng batas

**[00:24:46.180] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000337)  
patungkol sa PWDs

**[00:24:47.500] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000338)  
pero mga inutil kayo.

**[00:24:50.700] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000339)  
Sobrang inutil as a matter of fact.

**[00:24:53.000] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000340)  
Bakit umabot sa katakot-takot

**[00:24:54.260] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000341)  
na 6 million ng mga faking IDs?

**[00:24:56.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000342)  
Paano nakalusot ito?

**[00:24:58.520] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000343)  
Wala ba kayong koordinasyon

**[00:24:59.800] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000344)  
with other agencies at sa LGUs?

**[00:25:02.500] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000345)  
Wala ba kayong ngipin

**[00:25:03.860] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000346)  
upang masigurang implementasyon ng batas?

**[00:25:06.600] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000347)  
Bakit wala kayong kakayahan

**[00:25:07.800] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000348)  
na imonitor ang problemang ito

**[00:25:10.460] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000349)  
na nagsimula pa noong pandemic?

**[00:25:13.780] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000350)  
Madam Chair,

**[00:25:14.600] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000351)  
my purpose is to uphold the rights

**[00:25:16.160] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000352)  
and protect persons with disabilities

**[00:25:18.080] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000353)  
not to discredit them.

**[00:25:21.320] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000354)  
Nais kumatsyak na matatanggap

**[00:25:23.080] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000355)  
ng mga liitimong PWD

**[00:25:24.520] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000356)  
ang mga binipisyong

**[00:25:25.940] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000357)  
itinakda ng batas.

**[00:25:28.220] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000358)  
Hindi makatarungan maging dahilan

**[00:25:29.540] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000359)  
ang pamemeke ng mga scammer

**[00:25:31.360] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000360)  
upang pagdudahan ang pagbibigay ng diskwento

**[00:25:34.600] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000361)  
sa mga tunay na nangangailangan nito.

**[00:25:37.260] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000362)  
We may also need to review

**[00:25:38.840] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000363)  
existing laws to clarify

**[00:25:40.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000364)  
which disabilities

**[00:25:42.720] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000365)  
qualify for government benefits.

**[00:25:46.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000366)  
These benefits are grounded

**[00:25:47.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000367)  
in social justice

**[00:25:48.300] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000368)  
and the Philippine Constitution

**[00:25:49.820] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000369)  
which affirms the dignity

**[00:25:51.760] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000370)  
of every person and guarantees

**[00:25:54.280] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000371)  
full respect for human rights.

**[00:25:55.940] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000372)  
Huwag nating gamitin sa kalokohan

**[00:25:58.060] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000373)  
ang talagayan ng ating mga kababayang

**[00:25:59.720] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000374)  
may kapansanan.

**[00:26:02.100] Senator Raffy T. Tulfo** (asr-000375)  
Maraming salamat po, Madam Chair.

**[00:26:04.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000376)  
Maraming salamat din po,

**[00:26:05.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000377)  
Senator Rafi.

**[00:26:06.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000378)  
Secretary Rex,

**[00:26:07.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000379)  
I'm sure you will touch on this

**[00:26:10.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000380)  
sa presentation nyo

**[00:26:11.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000381)  
including in relation to DOJ,

**[00:26:14.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000382)  
Department of Health,

**[00:26:15.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000383)  
and the LGUs na binanggit din po

**[00:26:17.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000384)  
sa pag-raise nitong importanteng isyong ito.

**[00:26:20.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000385)  
Salamat, Secretary Rex.

**[00:26:21.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000386)  
Senator Erwin,

**[00:26:22.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000387)  
gusto nyo po bang mag-opening remarks?

**[00:26:23.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000388)  
Yes, Madam Chair.

**[00:26:25.940] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000389)  
Una po sa lahat,

**[00:26:28.360] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000390)  
magandang hapon po sa lahat,

**[00:26:30.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000391)  
lalo na po sa ating

**[00:26:32.000] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000392)  
Chairperson, Senadora Risa Hontiveros.

**[00:26:35.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000393)  
Of course, sa aking mga kasamahan po,

**[00:26:37.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000394)  
Senador Rafi at Senador Aimee,

**[00:26:40.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000395)  
kay Secretary Rex Gatchalian,

**[00:26:42.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000396)  
at mga kasamahan ko po,

**[00:26:44.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000397)  
tayo po na nasa pamahalaan

**[00:26:46.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000398)  
at sa ating mga kababayan

**[00:26:49.620] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000399)  
na anunod sa atin ngayon.

**[00:26:51.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000400)  
Today, as we deliberate

**[00:26:52.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000401)  
the proposed 2027 budget

**[00:26:54.100] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000402)  
of the Department of Social,

**[00:26:55.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000403)  
Welfare, and Development,

**[00:26:57.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000404)  
let us be reminded

**[00:26:58.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000405)  
that it holds a vital place

**[00:26:59.900] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000406)  
in our government.

**[00:27:01.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000407)  
As a lead agency

**[00:27:02.640] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000408)  
in social protection,

**[00:27:03.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000409)  
DSWD serves as the ultimate safety net

**[00:27:07.500] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000410)  
for our poor families,

**[00:27:08.820] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000411)  
children,

**[00:27:09.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000412)  
senior citizens,

**[00:27:10.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000413)  
persons with disabilities,

**[00:27:12.780] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000414)  
and individuals facing crises.

**[00:27:15.860] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000415)  
Sa DSWD po,

**[00:27:17.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000416)  
nakasalalay ang pag-asa

**[00:27:18.280] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000417)  
ng ating mga kababayan

**[00:27:19.340] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000418)  
kapag sila ay nadadapa

**[00:27:20.600] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000419)  
sa gitna man ng kahirapan,

**[00:27:23.220] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000420)  
sakuna,

**[00:27:23.600] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000421)  
o bigla ang krisis sa buhay.

**[00:27:25.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000422)  
At sa mga kababayan,

**[00:27:25.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000423)  
For Fiscal Year 2027,

**[00:27:28.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000424)  
the DSWD's proposed budget

**[00:27:30.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000425)  
under GAB stands at

**[00:27:31.440] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000426)  
P262.8 billion,

**[00:27:34.300] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000427)  
reflecting significant adjustments.

**[00:27:37.280] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000428)  
Pero,

**[00:27:38.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000429)  
tila kulang pa,

**[00:27:39.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000430)  
may paparating po tayo na El Niño,

**[00:27:42.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000431)  
hindi pa tapos ang

**[00:27:43.620] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000432)  
gera sa Middle East,

**[00:27:46.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000433)  
at ang DSWD kasi po

**[00:27:47.940] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000434)  
ang nasa front line sa pagbibigay

**[00:27:49.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000435)  
po ng ayuda pag may sakuna,

**[00:27:51.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000436)  
dilubyo, at gera.

**[00:27:54.420] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000437)  
Sasapat

**[00:27:55.440] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000438)  
ba ang pondo nila

**[00:27:56.520] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000439)  
para sa ika nga

**[00:27:57.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000440)  
mga paparating na emergency.

**[00:28:00.800] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000441)  
While we recognize

**[00:28:01.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000442)  
the need for fiscal prudence,

**[00:28:03.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000443)  
this committee must meticulously review

**[00:28:05.000] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000444)  
where these cuts are being made.

**[00:28:07.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000445)  
Tungkulin po natin

**[00:28:08.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000446)  
na siguraduhin

**[00:28:09.420] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000447)  
hindi mapapawasan

**[00:28:10.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000448)  
ng direktang tulong

**[00:28:11.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000449)  
o serbisyo

**[00:28:12.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000450)  
para sa mahihirap.

**[00:28:14.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000451)  
Dapat din po natin

**[00:28:14.960] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000452)  
siguraduhin

**[00:28:15.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000453)  
na ang pondo ng bayan

**[00:28:16.800] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000454)  
ay may kaaktibat

**[00:28:17.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000455)  
na pananagutan at resulta.

**[00:28:20.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000456)  
Are our resources

**[00:28:21.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000457)  
reaching the right beneficiaries

**[00:28:22.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000458)  
at the right time

**[00:28:23.620] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000459)  
and in the right amount?

**[00:28:25.440] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000460)  
How do we ensure

**[00:28:26.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000461)  
the programs

**[00:28:26.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000462)  
such as AICS complement

**[00:28:28.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000463)  
rather than undermine

**[00:28:29.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000464)  
long-term poverty reduction?

**[00:28:32.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000465)  
Are our investments

**[00:28:32.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000466)  
in the Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program,

**[00:28:35.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000467)  
social pension,

**[00:28:36.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000468)  
and sustainable livelihood programs

**[00:28:38.360] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000469)  
sufficient to help beneficiaries

**[00:28:40.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000470)  
achieve lasting improvements

**[00:28:42.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000471)  
in their lives?

**[00:28:43.860] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000472)  
Ang bawat piso nilaan po

**[00:28:45.100] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000473)  
sa DSWD

**[00:28:46.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000474)  
ay dapat may katumbas

**[00:28:47.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000475)  
na tunay na tulong,

**[00:28:48.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000476)  
malinaw na pananagutan

**[00:28:49.880] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000477)  
at kongkretong pagbabago

**[00:28:51.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000478)  
sa buhay ng ating mga kababayan.

**[00:28:53.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000479)  
As we scrutinize this budget,

**[00:28:55.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000480)  
our focus will be

**[00:28:56.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000481)  
on resolving critical operational

**[00:28:57.960] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000482)  
and implementation issues.

**[00:29:00.520] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000483)  
We need clear justification

**[00:29:02.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000484)  
for significant budget cuts

**[00:29:04.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000485)  
in key social safety net programs,

**[00:29:07.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000486)  
particularly the AICS,

**[00:29:10.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000487)  
whose funding and targeted beneficiaries

**[00:29:12.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000488)  
have been substantially reduced.

**[00:29:15.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000489)  
We will look into the status

**[00:29:16.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000490)  
of four P's

**[00:29:17.280] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000491)  
under recent policy adjustment,

**[00:29:19.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000492)  
as well as the social pension program,

**[00:29:22.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000493)  
where over half a million

**[00:29:23.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000494)  
eligible indigent seniors

**[00:29:25.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000495)  
and citizens remain wait-listed

**[00:29:27.420] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000496)  
due to budget constraints.

**[00:29:29.520] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000497)  
We must address recurring

**[00:29:31.000] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000498)  
COA observations regarding

**[00:29:32.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000499)  
database inaccuracies,

**[00:29:34.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000500)  
delayed disbursement,

**[00:29:36.440] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000501)  
unliquidated cash advances,

**[00:29:38.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000502)  
and inclusion errors.

**[00:29:39.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000503)  
Bawat piso po ng pondo

**[00:29:42.280] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000504)  
ay dapat makarating

**[00:29:43.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000505)  
sa totoong nangangailangan

**[00:29:44.840] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000506)  
ng walang delay

**[00:29:45.640] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000507)  
at walang pong anomalya.

**[00:29:48.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000508)  
We are here today

**[00:29:49.180] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000509)  
not to fault-find,

**[00:29:50.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000510)  
but to ensure that DSWD

**[00:29:52.180] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000511)  
is given a balanced,

**[00:29:53.820] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000512)  
efficient,

**[00:29:54.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000513)  
and responsive budget.

**[00:29:56.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000514)  
Gusto pong masiguro

**[00:29:58.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000515)  
ng representasyong ito

**[00:30:00.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000516)  
na ang bawat piso sa pondo ng DSWD ay magagamit nating tama, mabilis at may tunay na malasakit sa taong bayan.

**[00:30:09.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000517)  
Let us ensure that the DSWD budget is not only compassionate in purpose but also efficient, accountable and impactful in practice.

**[00:30:18.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000518)  
Madam Chair, the issues raised by Senator Raffi earlier was discussed already by our Committee on Social Justice and Welfare last Monday

**[00:30:28.340] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000519)  
where we discussed lifetime validity of PWD IDs.

**[00:30:33.840] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000520)  
Maybe the NCDA can reiterate their position regarding these fake IDs.

**[00:30:39.500] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000521)  
We look forward to a constructive and transparent budget presentation from DSWD.

**[00:30:44.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-000522)  
Maraming salamat, Madam Chair.

**[00:30:46.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000523)  
Maraming salamat din po, Senator and former Secretary Erwin.

**[00:30:49.720] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000524)  
Thank you.

**[00:30:50.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000525)  
So, Secretary Rex, you have the floor now to lead the presentation.

**[00:30:54.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000526)  
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I will go through the top line of the budget.

**[00:30:58.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000527)  
And then, if you will allow me, I will go straight into the pressing matter on PWD IDs.

**[00:31:05.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000528)  
Yes, please do.

**[00:31:05.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000529)  
Madam Chairperson and our budget sponsor, Senator Riza Antiveros, honorable members of the Committee,

**[00:31:10.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000530)  
co-workers in DSWD, ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon.

**[00:31:13.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000531)  
The DSWD, including its attached and supervised agencies, is honored to appear before the Senate

**[00:31:18.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000532)  
as part of our accountability for the public resources entrusted to us.

**[00:31:23.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000533)  
In the next slides, we will present our annual budget utilization performance,

**[00:31:27.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000534)  
the proposed budget for 2027, and the status of major programs implemented by the DSWD.

**[00:31:34.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000535)  
For 2027, the DSWD has a total budget of P240.7 billion under the National Expenditure Program.

**[00:31:41.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000536)  
Of this amount, P235.7 billion is allocated to the DSWD Office of the Secretary.

**[00:31:47.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000537)  
For our attached and supervised agencies, the proposed budgets are shown on the screen.

**[00:31:51.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000538)  
Compared to the 2026 General Appropriations Act, the 2027 NEP for the DSWD,

**[00:31:56.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000539)  
including its attached and supervised,

**[00:31:57.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000540)  
agencies reflect lower levels, with the exception of NACC and NCSC,

**[00:32:03.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000541)  
whose budget increases are under personal services because of new positions created on or filled up.

**[00:32:10.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000542)  
For 2025, the DBM released approximately P254 billion to the DSWD,

**[00:32:15.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000543)  
both for our agency budget and releases from other fund sources.

**[00:32:19.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000544)  
We are pleased to report that the DSWD achieved a near 100% utilization rate as of September 2026.

**[00:32:25.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000545)  
For 2026, the DSWD has so far utilized

**[00:32:27.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000546)  
81% of the agency's specific budget of P264.3 billion.

**[00:32:34.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000547)  
For the Calamity Fund and the Quick Response Fund replenishments,

**[00:32:37.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000548)  
83.71% of the P13.7 billion released so far has already been utilized.

**[00:32:43.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000549)  
Beyond the budget figures, these investments reflect the very essence of DSWD's work,

**[00:32:48.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000550)  
investing in human capital development, strengthening community-driven development,

**[00:32:52.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000551)  
and ensuring a rapid disaster response so that the gains of the development

**[00:32:57.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000552)  
are not undone by disasters and other shocks.

**[00:33:00.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000556)  
As social risk and vulnerabilities evolve, the DSWD implements innovative flagship programs

**[00:33:04.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000557)  
and new approaches to address emerging social concerns and response to changing needs of Filipino families.

**[00:33:11.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000558)  
Walang Gutom addresses food insecurity, Tarabasa supports children's learning,

**[00:33:15.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000559)  
while providing cash-for-work opportunities for the youth,

**[00:33:18.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000560)  
and Pag-Abot reaches people in street situations,

**[00:33:21.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000561)  
providing immediate food assistance through the Walang Gutom Kitchen,

**[00:33:23.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000562)  
and connecting them to appropriate social protection services.

**[00:33:27.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000563)  
Together, these programs invest in people, respond to their specific needs, and help them build more dignified and sustainable lives.

**[00:33:35.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000564)  
We are also?

**[00:33:36.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000564-split-2)  
Sec. Rex, if you could pause for a bit. Tech, pakiayusin natin yung slides ni Secretary. Parang nag-sign out daw. Okay. Salamat. Please proceed, Sec. Rex.

**[00:33:47.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000564-split-3)  
We are also developing targeted responses to prevalent and social welfare concerns.

**[00:33:52.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000565)  
These include initiatives such as Project Aruga, Protect Teen, and Project Safe for Osaic Victims.

**[00:33:58.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000566)  
These initiatives address the specific needs of children, adolescents, and families, strengthening our capacity to protect those at risk and deliver appropriate timely support.

**[00:34:08.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000567)  
While we continue to innovate and respond to new challenges, we remain fully grounded in our core mandate, delivering regular programs and services that millions of Filipinos depend on.

**[00:34:17.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000568)  
At the heart of these efforts is our commitment to invest in people.

**[00:34:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000569)  
Helping children.

**[00:34:22.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000570)  
Helping children grow, families become more self-reliant, and communities move forward.

**[00:34:27.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000571)  
This is what social protection must deliver.

**[00:34:29.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000572)  
Immediate support when people need it the most, and sustained opportunities to build a better future.

**[00:34:34.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000573)  
Let me now turn to our major programs, beginning with Pantawid Pamilang Pilipino Program, or 4Ps, our country's flagship investment in human capital development.

**[00:34:44.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000574)  
In 2025, we utilized 63.6 billion or 63.7 billion allotment, or 99.83%.

**[00:34:52.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000576)  
To pay the conditional cash grants due to the 3.9 million beneficiaries.

**[00:34:57.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000577)  
For 2026, our 112.9 billion allotment includes 98.3 billion for grants, with obligation and disbursement progressing according to scheduled payments.

**[00:35:07.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000578)  
For 2027, 99.1 billion budget, including 81.3 billion for grants, will continue to support 3.5 million households, sustaining investments in health, education, and family development,

**[00:35:21.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000579)  
with focus on poor and near-poor families.

**[00:35:25.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000580)  
Beyond budget utilization, we measure 4Ps by its results and ensure that our programs are guided by evidence.

**[00:35:30.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000581)  
From 2022 to July 2026, 1.77 million households graduated to self-sufficiency, 7.24 million children completed primary and secondary education, and 78,886 beneficiaries passed licensure examinations,

**[00:35:49.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000582)  
including 259 top-notchers.

**[00:35:53.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000583)  
Under the F1KD First 1,000 Days grant, 83.9% of pregnant beneficiaries nationwide completed the required prenatal visits.

**[00:36:03.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000584)  
These results are reinforced by independent studies.

**[00:36:06.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000585)  
The World Bank's 2026 study attributed a 2.2% point reduction in national poverty to 4Ps and estimated a 4.4 cost-benefit ratio.

**[00:36:17.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000586)  
The Brain Trust Study also recognizes the program's educational impact.

**[00:36:22.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000587)  
in its reach among poor households.

**[00:36:24.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000588)  
These findings strengthen our commitment to evidence-informed policymaking, continuous program improvement, and ensuring that the public resources deliver measurable results for Filipino families.

**[00:36:36.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000589)  
Under protective services, AICS remains our primary program for individuals and families in crisis, complemented by community-based services for vulnerable sectors.

**[00:36:44.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000590)  
In 2025, we utilize 100% of the budget, assisting over 9.4 million beneficiaries.

**[00:36:51.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000591)  
For 2026,

**[00:36:52.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000592)  
utilization has reached almost 92%,

**[00:36:54.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000593)  
serving 6.7 million beneficiaries to date.

**[00:36:58.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000594)  
Under the President's Uplift Directive,

**[00:37:00.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000595)  
we have also assisted 5.8 million beneficiaries

**[00:37:03.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000596)  
as of October 14.

**[00:37:05.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000597)  
For 2027, the 33.3 billion,

**[00:37:08.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000598)  
including 29.4 billion for subsidies,

**[00:37:11.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000599)  
will help individuals and families in crisis

**[00:37:13.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000600)  
meet urgent needs,

**[00:37:15.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000601)  
access essential services,

**[00:37:16.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000602)  
and recover from financial and personal hardships.

**[00:37:19.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000603)  
However, additional resources

**[00:37:21.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000604)  
may be needed to keep pace

**[00:37:22.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000605)  
with the growing demand

**[00:37:23.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000606)  
and sustain these outcomes.

**[00:37:25.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000607)  
Your Honors,

**[00:37:25.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000608)  
AICS is evolving into an instrument

**[00:37:27.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000609)  
for adaptive and shock-responsive social protection.

**[00:37:31.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000610)  
Under the President's Uplift Initiative,

**[00:37:33.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000611)  
we provided 5,000 cash assistance

**[00:37:35.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000612)  
to 1.839 million transport workers.

**[00:37:40.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000613)  
A rapid SWS assessment

**[00:37:43.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000614)  
found that 96% considered the grant crucial

**[00:37:47.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000615)  
to keeping them on the road,

**[00:37:48.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000616)  
while 80% use it for food,

**[00:37:51.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000617)  
while we also provided top-up support

**[00:37:53.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000618)  
for existing beneficiaries

**[00:37:55.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000619)  
and extended aid to vulnerable households

**[00:37:57.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000620)  
identified through CBMS data.

**[00:37:59.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000621)  
This demonstrates how AICS can scale up support

**[00:38:02.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000622)  
and reach families vulnerable to economic shocks

**[00:38:05.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000623)  
when they need it the most.

**[00:38:06.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000624)  
Another key investment is the social protection pension

**[00:38:09.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000625)  
for indigent senior citizens,

**[00:38:12.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000626)  
providing vital income support to our older persons.

**[00:38:16.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000627)  
In 2025, we serve 4.11 million beneficiaries.

**[00:38:19.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000628)  
For 2026,

**[00:38:21.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000629)  
utilization is at 88%

**[00:38:23.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000630)  
as we enroll new beneficiaries

**[00:38:24.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000631)  
with 51 billion available to expand coverage.

**[00:38:27.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000632)  
For 2027,

**[00:38:29.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000633)  
the 51.6 billion budget allots 50 billion for subsidies.

**[00:38:34.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000634)  
We would like to flag that based on CBMS data,

**[00:38:37.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000635)  
at least 550,000 older seniors,

**[00:38:41.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000636)  
older persons remain unserved

**[00:38:43.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000637)  
and we hope to extend social pension

**[00:38:45.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000638)  
to these senior citizens.

**[00:38:46.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000639)  
For social pension,

**[00:38:47.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000640)  
we are making implementation simpler,

**[00:38:49.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000641)  
fairer, and more responsive,

**[00:38:50.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000642)  
in support of the progressive realization

**[00:38:53.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000643)  
of universal social pension.

**[00:38:55.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000644)  
First, we removed the requirement

**[00:38:57.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000645)  
to provide frailty or sickliness eligibility.

**[00:39:02.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000646)  
Eligibility is now based on age,

**[00:39:04.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000647)  
with enrollment prioritized by age.

**[00:39:07.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000648)  
Second, we shifted to data-driven targeting

**[00:39:10.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000649)  
using CBMS data,

**[00:39:11.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000650)  
cross-checked with SSS, GSIS, and PVOW,

**[00:39:15.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000651)  
to ensure applicants are not active pensioners.

**[00:39:18.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000652)  
To reach those who may be missed

**[00:39:20.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000653)  
by the field

**[00:39:20.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000654)  
or those who may not be included in the program,

**[00:39:23.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000655)  
we also allowed applications

**[00:39:25.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000656)  
and LGU referrals for persons aged 70 and above,

**[00:39:29.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000657)  
subject to validation with DSA registry data.

**[00:39:33.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000658)  
Finally, we are advancing the silver economy across ASEAN,

**[00:39:37.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000659)  
recognizing older persons

**[00:39:38.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000660)  
not only as beneficiaries to social protection,

**[00:39:41.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000661)  
but also as contributors to communities and the economy.

**[00:39:44.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000662)  
The supplementary feeding program provides support,

**[00:39:47.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000663)  
supports the nutrition needs of children

**[00:39:48.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000664)  
in child development centers,

**[00:39:50.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000665)  
and supervised neighborhood place.

**[00:39:52.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000666)  
For 2027, the 6.4 billion budget

**[00:39:55.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000667)  
will provide supplementary meals to 1.899 million children,

**[00:39:59.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000668)  
sustaining coverage at the first fiscal year 2026 target.

**[00:40:03.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000669)  
The lower allocation reflects a shorter feeding period

**[00:40:07.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000670)  
of 120 days compared with 180 days in 2026,

**[00:40:11.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000671)  
not a reduction of children served.

**[00:40:14.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000672)  
Social protection must create pathways to self-reliance.

**[00:40:18.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000673)  
Through the Sustainable Livelihood program,

**[00:40:19.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000674)  
we help families in rural areas,

**[00:40:20.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000675)  
families generate income and achieve economic independence.

**[00:40:23.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000676)  
In 2025, SLP assisted 275,478 households exceeding its target

**[00:40:29.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000677)  
with 100% of its 6.2 allocation obligated as of September 2026.

**[00:40:37.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000678)  
238,233 households have been assisted.

**[00:40:40.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000679)  
For 2027, the 5.1 billion budget will support 251,449 households

**[00:40:47.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000680)  
in developing sustainable livelihoods, generating income,

**[00:40:50.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000681)  
and achieving greater economic self-reliance.

**[00:40:53.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000682)  
Given the program's performance and reach,

**[00:40:55.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000683)  
additional funding may be needed to extend these opportunities to more families.

**[00:40:59.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000684)  
We have revamped SLP to move beyond one-time assistance

**[00:41:03.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000685)  
towards sustainable enterprise development.

**[00:41:07.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000686)  
Through Pag-CBOL, we provide long-term support and sustainability plans

**[00:41:11.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000687)  
to help livelihood grow into viable sources of income.

**[00:41:14.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000688)  
We also strengthen market linkages

**[00:41:16.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000689)  
and open new sales channels including digital platforms like TikTok.

**[00:41:20.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000690)  
Our goal is clear, invest in livelihoods that can grow, compete,

**[00:41:24.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000691)  
and provide sustainable income for families.

**[00:41:26.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000692)  
A consistent part of our mandate is to provide residential and center-based services

**[00:41:30.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000693)  
for individuals who require more intensive and sustained care.

**[00:41:34.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000694)  
These include children, older persons, persons with disabilities,

**[00:41:37.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000695)  
and other individuals whose circumstances require specific intervention.

**[00:41:41.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000696)  
For 2025, we serve 9,620 clients,

**[00:41:46.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000697)  
exceeding the target by 11.34%,

**[00:41:49.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000698)  
while in 2026, 8,674 clients have already been served as of this reporting period.

**[00:41:57.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000699)  
For 2027, the 3.3 billion budget will provide specialized care and support

**[00:42:03.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000700)  
to 8,640 clients, helping meet their needs and improve their well-being.

**[00:42:08.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000701)  
Our challenge is to ensure that our 77 residential and center-based facilities

**[00:42:13.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000702)  
remain safe, appropriate, accessible, and sustainable.

**[00:42:16.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000703)  
We are also capable of delivering quality social welfare services.

**[00:42:19.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000704)  
It is for this reason that we are proposing P286.1 million

**[00:42:23.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000705)  
for power system rehabilitation of our care facilities.

**[00:42:27.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000706)  
To address overcapacity, we are also seeking an additional P204 million

**[00:42:31.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000707)  
for cost-of-care subsidies to qualified private social welfare agencies,

**[00:42:36.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000708)  
50 of which have already been operating beyond their bed capacity.

**[00:42:41.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000709)  
These investments will improve care facilities

**[00:42:43.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000710)  
and expand our capacity to serve vulnerable clients.

**[00:42:46.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000711)  
On disaster response, the QRS allows DSWD to provide timely assistance

**[00:42:51.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000712)  
before, during, and after emergencies,

**[00:42:53.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000713)  
ensuring that affected families feel the government's presence

**[00:42:56.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000714)  
when they need it the most.

**[00:42:58.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000715)  
We fully utilize the 2025 allotment and replenishment.

**[00:43:02.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000716)  
For 2026, we have utilized 14.3 billion of the 16.7 billion release.

**[00:43:08.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000717)  
Our strategy is always present where disasters strike

**[00:43:12.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000718)  
with relief goods ready for immediate deployment.

**[00:43:14.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000719)  
We have 1,048 warehouses nationwide

**[00:43:18.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000720)  
with 4.4 million family food packs in stock as of September 30, 2026.

**[00:43:24.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000721)  
Our modernized facilities can produce up to 63,000 food packs per shift

**[00:43:28.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000722)  
with 7.2 million food packs produced in 2025.

**[00:43:33.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000723)  
We also provide emergency cash transfers and cash for work in 2025.

**[00:43:37.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000724)  
1.3 million families benefited from or receive help

**[00:43:41.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000725)  
to meet urgent needs and begin recovery.

**[00:43:43.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000726)  
For 2027,

**[00:43:44.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000727)  
the 1.9 billion budget for disaster response and rehabilitation

**[00:43:48.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000728)  
will continue the implementation of LAWA and BINHI,

**[00:43:52.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000729)  
which provides cash support for temporary employment

**[00:43:56.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000730)  
and skills training to poor and disadvantaged families

**[00:43:59.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000731)  
vulnerable to climate hazards, including El Ni?o-induced drought.

**[00:44:04.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000732)  
Drought requires a whole-of-government approach.

**[00:44:06.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000733)  
DSWD provides social protection and humanitarian assistance

**[00:44:09.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000734)  
to meet urgent needs, protect food security and help affected families

**[00:44:13.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000735)  
recover and restore their livelihoods.

**[00:44:14.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000736)  
This includes complementing the efforts of partner agencies and LGUs.

**[00:44:19.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000737)  
This slide will show practical components of LAWA and BINHI,

**[00:44:22.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000738)  
protecting water access, sustaining food production,

**[00:44:25.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000739)  
and strengthening livelihoods.

**[00:44:27.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000740)  
The approach is intended to help communities address immediate effects of El Nino

**[00:44:31.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000741)  
while building capacity to withstand future shocks.

**[00:44:34.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000742)  
The department's role is complemented by coordination with relevant partners,

**[00:44:38.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000743)  
particularly for technical support and provision of agriculture inputs

**[00:44:41.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000744)  
and other sector-driven assistance.

**[00:44:43.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000745)  
In addition,

**[00:44:44.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000746)  
the department also uses its quick response fund for emergency cash transfer.

**[00:44:49.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000747)  
It provides temporary unconditional cash support to individuals and families

**[00:44:53.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000748)  
affected by crises, disaster, and economic shocks.

**[00:44:56.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000749)  
This slide presents assistance for affected

**[00:45:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000750)  
farmers in Regions 3 and 5

**[00:45:02.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000751)  
including 77,260

**[00:45:04.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000752)  
farmers in Region 3

**[00:45:06.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000753)  
and 26,041

**[00:45:09.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000754)  
in Region 5.

**[00:45:10.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000755)  
The grant is calculated

**[00:45:12.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000756)  
for 30 days up to a maximum

**[00:45:13.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000757)  
of 90 days based on 75

**[00:45:15.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000758)  
of regional minimum wage.

**[00:45:18.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000759)  
Madam Chair, that ends the presentation and if you

**[00:45:20.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000760)  
will allow me to immediately answer

**[00:45:22.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000761)  
or put on record the response

**[00:45:23.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000762)  
to the PWD concerns.

**[00:45:26.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000763)  
Salamat, Sec. Rex, but before you do

**[00:45:28.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000764)  
that, the Chair would like to recognize

**[00:45:29.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000765)  
the presence of the Senate President, Senator

**[00:45:31.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000766)  
Sherwin. Salamat sa inyong presensya.

**[00:45:34.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000767)  
Well, after Sec. Rex

**[00:45:36.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000768)  
immediately answers that

**[00:45:37.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000769)  
issue, I'd like to ask

**[00:45:40.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000770)  
the Senate President kung meron kayong gustong ibigay

**[00:45:41.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000771)  
na opening remarks and actually as our

**[00:45:44.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000772)  
official present here, you'll have first

**[00:45:46.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000773)  
crack at the questions to the Department.

**[00:45:47.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000774)  
Just very short, Madam Chairperson.

**[00:45:50.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000775)  
Let's proceed.

**[00:45:51.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000776)  
Talagang

**[00:45:52.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000777)  
pumapasok tayo sa

**[00:45:55.640] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000778)  
tawag ko nga doon,

**[00:45:57.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000779)  
triple whammy

**[00:45:58.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000780)  
sa ating bansa,

**[00:46:01.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000781)  
sa ating ekonomiya.

**[00:46:02.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000782)  
In fact, because of that triple whammy,

**[00:46:05.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000783)  
the Senate created the RISE Committee

**[00:46:07.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000784)  
to address the economic

**[00:46:09.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000785)  
slowdown of our country.

**[00:46:12.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000786)  
So, in triple whammy will be

**[00:46:13.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000787)  
the Iran conflict.

**[00:46:15.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000788)  
Number two will be

**[00:46:17.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000789)  
the rise in oil prices

**[00:46:19.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000790)  
and may spillover effect

**[00:46:21.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000791)  
dyan tulad ng inflation.

**[00:46:23.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000792)  
And number three, what we are

**[00:46:25.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000793)  
now experiencing and we

**[00:46:27.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000794)  
will be experiencing,

**[00:46:28.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000795)  
throughout the next few months,

**[00:46:29.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000796)  
will be El Nino.

**[00:46:31.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000797)  
And because of this effect,

**[00:46:36.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000798)  
ang kinakabahan ako, baka hindi natin

**[00:46:40.840] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000799)  
maabot, hindi natin maabot

**[00:46:43.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000800)  
yung ating target pagdating sa

**[00:46:45.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000801)  
poverty reduction.

**[00:46:47.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000802)  
And we also need to make sure

**[00:46:49.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000803)  
that there are enough social

**[00:46:51.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000804)  
safety nets for inflation.

**[00:46:53.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000805)  
Yung gera sa Iran, on and off eh.

**[00:46:55.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000806)  
Minsan bumababa ang presyo ng langis,

**[00:46:57.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000807)  
Minsan hindi.

**[00:46:58.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000808)  
But every time nang pa-fluctuate yan,

**[00:47:00.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000809)  
tama niyan ang inflation.

**[00:47:01.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000810)  
If you look at inflation, you also look at

**[00:47:03.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000811)  
the price of utilities, the price of oil,

**[00:47:07.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000812)  
and the price of food.

**[00:47:08.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000813)  
Yung food, doon ako nag-worry.

**[00:47:10.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000814)  
That's why we need the social safety nets

**[00:47:12.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000815)  
from the SWD to make sure

**[00:47:14.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000816)  
that our constituents have food to eat,

**[00:47:17.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000817)  
their children go to school,

**[00:47:19.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000818)  
hindi nakakain yung kanilang

**[00:47:22.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000819)  
disposable income

**[00:47:24.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000820)  
ng inflation.

**[00:47:27.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000821)  
At,

**[00:47:28.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000822)  
nakakapagtrabaho sila ng maayos.

**[00:47:31.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000823)  
So, we will hear from the department

**[00:47:32.880] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000824)  
what are the interventions on those

**[00:47:35.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000825)  
specific aspects.

**[00:47:37.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000826)  
And maraming salamat,

**[00:47:38.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-000827)  
Madam Chairperson.

**[00:47:40.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000828)  
Salamat po, SP.

**[00:47:43.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000829)  
So,

**[00:47:44.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000830)  
you have just framed the

**[00:47:46.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000831)  
matter of social protection

**[00:47:48.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000832)  
also as an economic issue.

**[00:47:50.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000833)  
So, salamat po para doon.

**[00:47:52.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000834)  
So, yes, Secrex, if you'd like to

**[00:47:54.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000835)  
first of all respond to the

**[00:47:56.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000836)  
issues raised about the,

**[00:47:58.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000837)  
the fake

**[00:47:58.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000838)  
persons with disability IDs

**[00:48:01.460] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000839)  
and then we'll open the first round

**[00:48:03.900] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000840)  
of questioning with the SP.

**[00:48:05.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000841)  
Please proceed, sir.

**[00:48:06.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000842)  
Madam Chair, as pointed out by

**[00:48:08.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000843)  
Senator Tulfo, in his committee,

**[00:48:10.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000844)  
we have tackled this issue.

**[00:48:11.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000845)  
But let me state it for the record.

**[00:48:13.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000846)  
After the, at that time, when we

**[00:48:15.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000847)  
found out, nung napabalita

**[00:48:18.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000848)  
itong napaglaganap ng fake ID,

**[00:48:20.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000849)  
the department immediately went to work

**[00:48:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000850)  
and proposed a unified system.

**[00:48:24.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000851)  
The unified ID system. It's a digital

**[00:48:25.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000852)  
format, wala ng physical ID,

**[00:48:28.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000853)  
the beauty of this system, ready na ho siya.

**[00:48:30.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000854)  
In fact, it's the same system we are about

**[00:48:31.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000855)  
to use for solo parents also, or we're using

**[00:48:34.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000856)  
for solo parents. Ang mangyayari lang ho,

**[00:48:36.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000857)  
wala ng ID-ID, it's a digital ID.

**[00:48:37.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000858)  
You get a QR code, pag ni-scan ho ng

**[00:48:39.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000859)  
establishment, you'll know if it's a real

**[00:48:42.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000860)  
ID, kasi nasa database yung tao

**[00:48:44.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000861)  
or wala. We were about to roll it out,

**[00:48:46.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000862)  
but the biggest problem is, when we look at the

**[00:48:47.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000863)  
IRR of the PWD discounts

**[00:48:49.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000864)  
law, man parang the QR

**[00:48:52.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000865)  
code ng IBP. Ganun lang. Yeah.

**[00:48:54.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000866)  
Scan lang ng establishment,

**[00:48:56.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000867)  
no new requirements, cellphone lang nila,

**[00:48:58.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000868)  
pwede na. Naka-piggyback rin siya

**[00:49:00.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000869)  
sa e-gov. So when we were about

**[00:49:02.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000870)  
to roll it out, we looked at the IRR

**[00:49:04.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000871)  
of the PWD discount law, at

**[00:49:06.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000872)  
because of the devolution ng social welfare,

**[00:49:08.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000873)  
walang role ang DSWD

**[00:49:10.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000874)  
doon. We weren't, ang issuing

**[00:49:12.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000875)  
ID is, nang issuing is LGU.

**[00:49:15.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000876)  
LGU siya.

**[00:49:16.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000877)  
So that's why now we have 1,000, tama ho yung

**[00:49:18.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000878)  
sa RestoPH. In fact, I met them also.

**[00:49:20.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000879)  
1,500 distinct

**[00:49:22.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000880)  
designs of IDs, 1,500

**[00:49:24.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000881)  
issuing agents, or LGUs,

**[00:49:26.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000882)  
and 1,500

**[00:49:28.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000883)  
signatures ng mga

**[00:49:30.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000884)  
iba't-ibang nag-i-issue.

**[00:49:32.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000885)  
Wala ho kami doon. So meaning, our

**[00:49:34.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000886)  
solution was ready, but the problem

**[00:49:36.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000887)  
is we had to work on the reform

**[00:49:38.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000888)  
muna nung

**[00:49:39.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000889)  
what the setup, the current status quo.

**[00:49:43.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000890)  
Ang nakipagpulong

**[00:49:44.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000891)  
ho kami sa BIR to try to

**[00:49:46.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000892)  
amend the revenue code, the revenue regulation

**[00:49:48.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000893)  
code, para ma-encourage yung mga

**[00:49:50.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000894)  
merchants to use our ID

**[00:49:52.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000895)  
kasi clearly, mahirap na bawiin yung

**[00:49:54.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000896)  
mga ID na manual na nasa labas.

**[00:49:56.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000897)  
So what will be their incentive? We promised

**[00:49:58.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000898)  
them na pag ito ang gamitin nyo,

**[00:50:00.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000899)  
makakasigurado kayo na malalaman nyo

**[00:50:02.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000900)  
kung legit or illegitimate yung ID

**[00:50:04.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000901)  
because nga nakapatong sa database.

**[00:50:07.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000902)  
So it took time

**[00:50:08.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000903)  
because we have to amend the implementing rules

**[00:50:10.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000904)  
and regulation ng PWD

**[00:50:12.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000905)  
ID discounts law, pero

**[00:50:14.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000906)  
we're almost done. Anytime in the next

**[00:50:16.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000907)  
two weeks, we will sign with DOF

**[00:50:18.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000908)  
and DOH. Now, just

**[00:50:20.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000909)  
one step backwards. We identified

**[00:50:22.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000910)  
three points of fraud

**[00:50:24.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000911)  
kung saan nangyayari ho yung

**[00:50:26.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000912)  
panluloko. Una,

**[00:50:28.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000913)  
tulad ng pinoint out ni

**[00:50:29.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000914)  
Sen. Erwin at ni Sen. Rafi kanina,

**[00:50:32.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000915)  
noon, maluwag yung

**[00:50:34.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000916)  
implementation kung sinong doktor

**[00:50:35.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000917)  
ang pwedeng mag-issue ng alin.

**[00:50:37.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000918)  
Sometimes, you would see a general practitioner

**[00:50:39.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000919)  
issuing what a dev

**[00:50:41.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000920)  
ped should be issuing, for instance.

**[00:50:44.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000921)  
So ang ginawa namin doon, in the interim,

**[00:50:45.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000922)  
kinausap namin yung DOH para

**[00:50:47.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000923)  
i-tighten nila. Then, Secretary

**[00:50:49.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000924)  
Herbosa issued a AO

**[00:50:51.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000925)  
na dinefine na mabuti.

**[00:50:53.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000926)  
Aling doktor lang ang pwede mag-issue?

**[00:50:56.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000927)  
Mag-issue ng aling certification.

**[00:50:58.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000928)  
So hindi ibig sabihin, pag orthopedic ka,

**[00:50:59.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000929)  
pwede ka na rin mag-issue ng learning

**[00:51:01.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000930)  
disability na certification.

**[00:51:04.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000931)  
So yun, na-tighten na ho yun. That's the

**[00:51:05.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000932)  
first part. Yung very loose

**[00:51:07.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000933)  
yung certification process, which

**[00:51:09.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000934)  
is yun yung requirement na dinadala

**[00:51:11.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000935)  
sa LGU to get the ID.

**[00:51:13.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000936)  
Yung pangalawa, may mga

**[00:51:15.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000937)  
pagkakataon talaga na may kaibigan sa

**[00:51:17.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000938)  
loob ng mga pidaw office ng

**[00:51:19.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000939)  
LGU at nag-iissue na lang ng ID

**[00:51:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000940)  
kahit kulang ang papel. That one, we

**[00:51:23.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000941)  
worked with the DILG to make sure na talaga

**[00:51:26.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000942)  
down sa mga LGU. Kasi

**[00:51:28.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000943)  
that's an ethical violation, administrative

**[00:51:29.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000944)  
violation yun. It's a matter of the LGUs

**[00:51:31.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000945)  
enforcing it. And pangatlo,

**[00:51:34.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000946)  
yung simple na lang, pupunta sila sa recto,

**[00:51:36.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000947)  
magpapagwa sila ng fake ID.

**[00:51:38.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000948)  
So that one, masusulusyonan with the unified

**[00:51:39.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000949)  
ID. So sa madaling salita ho, ready

**[00:51:42.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000950)  
na yung system. In fact, habang

**[00:51:43.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000951)  
nagaantay kami dun sa revenue code,

**[00:51:45.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000952)  
almost 80% ng ating

**[00:51:48.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000953)  
mga LGU na-train na namin gamitin yung

**[00:51:49.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000954)  
new system. Pangalawa,

**[00:51:52.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000955)  
yung revenue, yung

**[00:51:53.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000956)  
implementing rules and regulation,

**[00:51:56.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000957)  
we're not asking Senate or the

**[00:51:57.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000958)  
Congress to pass a new law.

**[00:51:59.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000959)  
Ginalaw lang, nakiusap, in-amend lang

**[00:52:01.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000960)  
namin yung IRR to include

**[00:52:03.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000961)  
us, the SWD, as an

**[00:52:05.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000962)  
implement, as a issuing entity.

**[00:52:08.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000963)  
Pinakamabilis,

**[00:52:09.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000964)  
next two weeks, we're about to sign with

**[00:52:11.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000965)  
DOH and DOF.

**[00:52:13.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000966)  
Pag na-implement na yun, suddenly may

**[00:52:15.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000967)  
personality na ho kami mag-issue ng ID, then

**[00:52:17.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000968)  
our unified system can be used already.

**[00:52:20.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000969)  
Pangatlo po,

**[00:52:23.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000970)  
in our

**[00:52:23.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000971)  
briefing, Madam Chair, na kwento namin,

**[00:52:26.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000972)  
ang magiging puhuna namin dito

**[00:52:27.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000973)  
will be giving the smaller LGUs

**[00:52:30.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000974)  
binigyan namin ng software.

**[00:52:32.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000975)  
Sasabihin nila, wala naman kaming hardware.

**[00:52:34.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000976)  
So kaya nga ho, yung budget

**[00:52:35.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000977)  
cut sa NCDA budget,

**[00:52:37.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000978)  
yun ho sana yung ipangbibili namin ng

**[00:52:39.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000979)  
hardware na ibibigay sa mga pidaw

**[00:52:41.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000980)  
or people with disability offices

**[00:52:43.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000981)  
para magamit nila yung app or

**[00:52:45.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000982)  
yung software na ginawa namin.

**[00:52:47.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000983)  
Now, Madam Chair, kanina binanggit ho nyo na

**[00:52:49.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000984)  
digitalization should not be a hindrance

**[00:52:51.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000985)  
to excluding people. Tama ho kayo doon.

**[00:52:54.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000986)  
That's why, itong system na to, may

**[00:52:55.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000987)  
option siya to print. So meaning,

**[00:52:57.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000988)  
the LGUs can print the ID as their service

**[00:52:59.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000989)  
pero ito na ang gamitin nila, huwag na yung

**[00:53:01.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000990)  
sarili nilang ID. So, yun ho.

**[00:53:04.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000991)  
Although, Secrex, I raised that in

**[00:53:05.720] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000992)  
relation sa four P's, families.

**[00:53:07.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000993)  
Pero kung the same principles sa mga

**[00:53:09.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000994)  
persons with disabilities, i-apply sa kanila,

**[00:53:11.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-000995)  
makakatulong po yun.

**[00:53:12.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000995-split-2)  
Yes, Madam Chair, I believe

**[00:53:13.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000996)  
that technology shouldn't be an excluding factor

**[00:53:15.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000997)  
for any social protection program.

**[00:53:18.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000998)  
So yun ho yung una naming dinulog

**[00:53:19.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-000999)  
na sinulat namin sa committee na sana ma-restore

**[00:53:21.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001000)  
yung maliit lang naman na pondo sa NCDA

**[00:53:23.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001001)  
para mabili yung computers,

**[00:53:25.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001002)  
at mabigay yung hardware. Kasi

**[00:53:27.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001003)  
sasabihin ng mga LGU, mayroon nga kayong software,

**[00:53:30.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001004)  
may revenue code kayo,

**[00:53:31.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001005)  
wala naman kaming computer. So pag may magpapaprint,

**[00:53:34.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001006)  
paano namin ipiprint?

**[00:53:35.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001007)  
So there are three ingredients. Software is ready

**[00:53:37.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001008)  
with a key database behind it.

**[00:53:40.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001009)  
Ang nagpapopulate naman ho ng database,

**[00:53:42.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001010)  
yung mga pidaw office rin eh. Hindi naman

**[00:53:43.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001011)  
namin kinuha yung power na yun.

**[00:53:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001012)  
Pangalawa, ready na rin ho yung

**[00:53:47.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001013)  
IRR na amendment.

**[00:53:50.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001014)  
Anytime magsasign na ho kami,

**[00:53:52.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001015)  
ito na lang ho hardware ang kailangan ho namin.

**[00:53:54.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001016)  
We take cognizance

**[00:53:55.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001017)  
of the issue, kinausap rin po namin yung

**[00:53:57.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001018)  
RestoPH. Nag-meet po kami,

**[00:53:59.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001019)  
together with the PWD groups, and we agree

**[00:54:01.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001020)  
with the observation of

**[00:54:03.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001021)  
Senator Erwin and Senator Raffi na kailangan

**[00:54:05.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001022)  
na talaga actionan ho itong festering

**[00:54:07.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001023)  
na problema.

**[00:54:09.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001024)  
Salamat po, Secrex. Before we

**[00:54:11.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001025)  
begin the first round of

**[00:54:13.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001026)  
questions with the Senate President,

**[00:54:15.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001027)  
baka mas maiging ngayon magpresenta

**[00:54:17.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001028)  
na rin, kahit maikli,

**[00:54:19.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001029)  
yung executive

**[00:54:20.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001030)  
agencies, power offices, NAPC

**[00:54:23.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001031)  
at saka PCUP, dahil hindi

**[00:54:25.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001032)  
naman naisama pa sa budget

**[00:54:27.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001033)  
presentation ng department, and I would like

**[00:54:29.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001034)  
at the end of this hearing to be able to also

**[00:54:31.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001035)  
submit those budgets

**[00:54:33.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001036)  
to the plenary.

**[00:54:35.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001037)  
So sino pong mauuna?

**[00:54:38.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001038)  
NAPC po ba?

**[00:54:41.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001039)  
So Usec. Catong,

**[00:54:43.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001040)  
Sir, I was looking forward to seeing our

**[00:54:45.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001041)  
former colleague, Secretary

**[00:54:47.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001042)  
Manny Pacquiao. I'm glad

**[00:54:49.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001043)  
you're here, Sir, pero usually

**[00:54:51.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001044)  
po we have the head of agency sa mga

**[00:54:53.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001045)  
budget hearings hanggang plenary.

**[00:54:55.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001046)  
Yes po, ma'am. Nagpadala po siya ng

**[00:54:57.720] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001047)  
sulat po sa, dahil

**[00:54:59.760] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001048)  
and according to him, rest assured na

**[00:55:01.880] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001049)  
in the plenary, ay sasama po talaga siya.

**[00:55:03.880] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001050)  
Sa transition po kasi, ma'am,

**[00:55:05.820] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001051)  
tagaan po kami and we have a lot of

**[00:55:07.560] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001052)  
progress on activities. We

**[00:55:09.620] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001053)  
sponsored, we spearheaded the

**[00:55:11.680] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001054)  
IDEP, the International

**[00:55:13.600] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001055)  
Day for the Eradication of Poverty

**[00:55:15.760] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001056)  
and also NWEP. Daling po po ako sa

**[00:55:17.500] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001057)  
Agusan del Sur, ma'am. Lahat ng opisyalis po

**[00:55:19.700] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001058)  
namin ay naka-deploy.

**[00:55:20.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001059)  
Chair?

**[00:55:23.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001060)  
Yes, Senator Imee?

**[00:55:25.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001061)  
Magtatanong

**[00:55:25.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001062)  
lang ako kasi nagdo-doble.

**[00:55:28.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001063)  
Senator Imee, if you would allow,

**[00:55:30.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001064)  
just to settle the matter of

**[00:55:31.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001065)  
yung na-miss nating

**[00:55:33.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001066)  
colleague natin. So, the good

**[00:55:35.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001067)  
Secretary, it's okay, Senator Imee.

**[00:55:37.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001068)  
So, the good Secretary is at an activity

**[00:55:39.900] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001069)  
of the International Day of

**[00:55:41.660] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001070)  
Katatapos na po, ma'am, actually

**[00:55:43.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001071)  
problema na namin yung mga flights namin.

**[00:55:45.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001072)  
Yung ibang kasama namin, di po nakarating.

**[00:55:48.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001073)  
So, naantala yung flight ni

**[00:55:49.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001074)  
Secretary Manny.

**[00:55:50.710] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001074-split-2)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[00:55:51.880] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001075)  
And also, dahil

**[00:55:53.660] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001076)  
dun sa mga preparations namin, ma'am,

**[00:55:55.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001077)  
sabi niya, rest assured that [unclear]

**[00:55:57.200] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001078)  
plenary ay siya po mismo ang [unclear].

**[00:56:00.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001079)  
Okay. Masaya po namin

**[00:56:01.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001080)  
nga asahan yun, Usec. Before you proceed

**[00:56:03.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001081)  
with your presentation, Senator Imee po.

**[00:56:05.400] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001082)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[00:56:06.190] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001082-split-2)  
O nga, sabihin mo na, may miss ko

**[00:56:07.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001083)  
yung seatmate ko. Pero, ganun pa man,

**[00:56:10.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001084)  
nalilito ako sa dalawang

**[00:56:11.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001085)  
ahensya dahil may

**[00:56:13.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001086)  
Presidential Commission sa

**[00:56:15.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001087)  
Urban Poor under EO 82

**[00:56:17.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001088)  
noong 1986.

**[00:56:19.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001089)  
Pakatapos may RA 8425

**[00:56:21.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001090)  
1997, kayo na yun.

**[00:56:24.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001091)  
At yung nababalik,

**[00:56:25.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001092)  
NAPC, nakilala natin.

**[00:56:27.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001093)  
Bakit dalawa-dalawa to? Hindi ba dapat

**[00:56:29.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001094)  
i-fold to? Baka kailangan

**[00:56:31.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001095)  
arali na ni Secretary. Yung isa,

**[00:56:33.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001096)  
pareho kayong malilitang budget.

**[00:56:35.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001097)  
Kung pinagdugtong yan at pinagkaisa,

**[00:56:38.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001098)  
lalaki yung budget po ninyo.

**[00:56:39.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001099)  
Kasi, eto nga,

**[00:56:40.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001100)  
P233 million

**[00:56:43.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001101)  
ang sa Presidential Commission.

**[00:56:45.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001102)  
Yung sa inyo naman, sa NAPC,

**[00:56:47.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001103)  
P360 million. E di sana

**[00:56:49.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001104)  
malaki-laki yan kung pinagkaisa.

**[00:56:51.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001105)  
Secretary, hindi ba

**[00:56:53.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001106)  
duplication na nangyayari?

**[00:56:55.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001107)  
Dahil kasi yung isa policy, yung isa

**[00:56:57.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001108)  
kung ano.

**[00:56:58.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001108-split-2)  
Madam Chair,

**[00:56:59.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001109)  
if they'll allow me to answer, kasi hindi na ho

**[00:57:01.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001110)  
sila kasama namin, inano na ho sila eh.

**[00:57:03.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001111)  
Nakarve po.

**[00:57:04.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001111-split-2)  
Kasi yung

**[00:57:05.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001112)  
NAPC is no longer

**[00:57:07.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001113)  
under you, is that correct?

**[00:57:08.850] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001113-split-2)  
Initially, talaga

**[00:57:09.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001114)  
nasa OP sila. Tapos sinama, when you were

**[00:57:11.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001115)  
our budget sponsor, Madam Chair, sinama sa amin.

**[00:57:14.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001116)  
Then, binalik na ulit sila ho.

**[00:57:15.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001117)  
Na-emancipate po sila.

**[00:57:18.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001118)  
Ngayon, na-emancipate.

**[00:57:19.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001119)  
Yung Presidential Commission,

**[00:57:22.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001120)  
under sa inyo?

**[00:57:22.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001120-split-2)  
Hindi na rin po.

**[00:57:23.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001121)  
OP na po silang dalawa. Yes.

**[00:57:25.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001122)  
So sa dalawa, OP na ngayon.

**[00:57:27.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001123)  
Together with the NCSC, yung senior citizen.

**[00:57:31.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001124)  
Ma'am, initially,

**[00:57:32.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001125)  
when this was scheduled, they were still part

**[00:57:33.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001126)  
of our group.

**[00:57:34.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001126-split-2)  
Pero yung

**[00:57:35.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001127)  
Occidental Commission has never been

**[00:57:38.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001128)  
part of it.

**[00:57:38.390] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001128-split-2)  
Ma'am, it was. It was.

**[00:57:39.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001129)  
You sponsored that also.

**[00:57:41.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001130)  
Kasi bakit doble-doble sila,

**[00:57:43.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001131)  
tapos tinanggal yung isa,

**[00:57:45.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001132)  
pero yung isa nananatili pa rin?

**[00:57:47.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001133)  
Ma'am, both tinanggal na at nilipat na pabalik

**[00:57:49.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001134)  
sa office of the President.

**[00:57:50.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001134-split-2)  
Alright.

**[00:57:51.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001135)  
Pero bakit dalawa sila?

**[00:57:52.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001135-split-2)  
Ma'am, from my

**[00:57:53.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001136)  
understanding, when I was still...

**[00:57:55.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001137)  
Yung isa, remnant ng 1986,

**[00:57:58.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001138)  
yung isa, bungad nung

**[00:57:59.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001139)  
batas ng 1997. Diba dapat

**[00:58:01.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001140)  
pag-isahin yan,

**[00:58:03.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001141)  
palibasa tayo lahat. Tayo naging

**[00:58:05.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001142)  
streamlining, rationalizing,

**[00:58:07.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001143)  
at gusto natin, yung urban

**[00:58:09.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001144)  
poor magkaroon ng matinuti ng budget.

**[00:58:12.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001145)  
Madam Chair, did you want

**[00:58:13.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001146)  
me to answer that?

**[00:58:14.570] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001146-split-2)  
Well, that's actually

**[00:58:15.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001147)  
an interesting question. Kasi after

**[00:58:17.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001148)  
the emancipation, so yung tanong

**[00:58:19.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001149)  
ni Senator Imee, pwedeng mag-comment, please,

**[00:58:21.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001150)  
both yung NAPC at saka yung

**[00:58:23.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001151)  
PCUP. Maaring may kinalaman nga,

**[00:58:25.720] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001152)  
sa institutional

**[00:58:26.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001153)  
reform, but

**[00:58:29.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001154)  
PCUP will also

**[00:58:31.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001155)  
have to comment ano din yung working relationship

**[00:58:33.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001156)  
niya, halimbawa, sa DHSUD. So,

**[00:58:35.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001157)  
perhaps, Usec. Catong, you would

**[00:58:37.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001158)  
like to give the perspective of

**[00:58:39.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001159)  
NAPC right now, and then, if

**[00:58:41.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001160)  
Senator Imee is satisfied with the answer,

**[00:58:43.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001161)  
proceed to your budget presentation.

**[00:58:45.160] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001162)  
Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

**[00:58:48.320] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001163)  
And thank you very much,

**[00:58:50.480] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001164)  
Secretary

**[00:58:50.940] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001165)  
Gatchalian. Pursuant to

**[00:58:53.500] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001166)  
the issuance of August

**[00:58:55.720] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001167)  
14 by the President

**[00:58:57.660] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001168)  
Ferdinand Bongbong Marcos Jr.,

**[00:58:59.560] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001169)  
Executive Order No. 123,

**[00:59:01.860] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001170)  
NAPC, together with PCUP,

**[00:59:04.240] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001171)  
the two institutions are a part

**[00:59:05.600] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001172)  
of the Office of the President. Originally,

**[00:59:07.700] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001173)  
yes, I agree that

**[00:59:09.120] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001174)  
under Republic Act 8425,

**[00:59:11.780] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001175)  
actually signed into law by

**[00:59:13.680] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001176)  
President Ramos in December 11 of

**[00:59:15.480] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001177)  
1997, with NAPC

**[00:59:17.660] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001178)  
as the lead agency

**[00:59:19.340] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001179)  
on matters pertaining to poverty reduction,

**[00:59:22.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001180)  
we main task

**[00:59:23.700] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001181)  
on policy reform,

**[00:59:25.720] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001182)  
recovery, and in accordance with social reform

**[00:59:27.420] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001183)  
agenda. And

**[00:59:28.900] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001184)  
it was only in 2019

**[00:59:31.660] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001185)  
that NAPC was placed

**[00:59:33.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001186)  
under the administrative supervision

**[00:59:34.760] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001187)  
of the DSWD.

**[00:59:37.560] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001188)  
And hence, in

**[00:59:39.220] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001189)  
the budget preparations and all,

**[00:59:41.280] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001190)  
we were under the

**[00:59:43.220] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001191)  
DSWD. Last August

**[00:59:45.480] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001192)  
14, the President

**[00:59:46.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001193)  
finally decided, also because of

**[00:59:49.580] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001194)  
the task pursuant to Republic Act

**[00:59:51.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001195)  
11291, or the

**[00:59:53.300] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001196)  
Magna Carta of the Poor, that

**[00:59:55.420] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001197)  
mandates all local government units

**[00:59:57.480] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001198)  
to formulate

**[00:59:59.240] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001199)  
their

**[01:00:00.080] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001201)  
their provincial, city, and municipal poverty reduction action plan.

**[01:00:06.040] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001202)  
And in that law, as a result of, actually, this was anchored on a 1965 UN Convention.

**[01:00:13.200] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001203)  
The Philippines only passed a law in 2019.

**[01:00:21.080] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001204)  
And the Magna Carta of the Poor that demands a local poverty reduction action plan

**[01:00:27.980] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001205)  
to all local government institutions was only implemented in 2023.

**[01:00:34.940] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001206)  
Imagine and focus on the five fundamental rights of the poor.

**[01:00:40.200] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001207)  
The right to adequate food, the right to the highest attainable standards of health,

**[01:00:45.200] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001208)  
the right to adequate housing, the right to highest attainable standards of health,

**[01:00:54.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001209)  
and including the decent work.

**[01:00:59.420] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001210)  
In other words, these five fundamental rights are now in place in the Magna Carta of the Poor

**[01:01:05.920] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001211)  
Local Poverty Reduction Action Plan with a Joint Memorandum Circular 01 Series of 2023

**[01:01:11.140] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001212)  
with DSWD, with then NEDA, now DEPDev, with PSA because of the Community-Based Monitoring System Law.

**[01:01:21.100] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001213)  
And of course, in that context, in the...

**[01:01:24.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001214)  
In the en banc meeting presided over by the President in June 30 of 2023,

**[01:01:32.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001215)  
the target or the marching order to reducing the poverty incidence to 8.8

**[01:01:36.820] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001216)  
was articulated in that 2023 en banc meeting.

**[01:01:40.540] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001217)  
In the 2024 meeting, also, with the support of both houses, especially the Senate,

**[01:01:47.360] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001218)  
it was the Chairperson, Risa Hontiveros, and also with the support of Senator Imee Marcos,

**[01:01:54.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001219)  
NAPC was given an additional budget of 140 million.

**[01:02:00.260] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001220)  
But, of course, not enough to roll out the full implementation of the Magna Carta of the Poor

**[01:02:06.820] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001221)  
because we are targeting two sectors.

**[01:02:09.160] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001222)  
NAPC is the only institution in government that talks about the two main sectors,

**[01:02:15.620] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001223)  
the government sector with 27 partner member agencies to include the DSWD, the DILG,

**[01:02:21.700] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001224)  
and all other agencies with PAPs on poverty reduction.

**[01:02:24.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001225)  
Under Republic Act 11291.

**[01:02:27.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001226)  
Also, 50% of that are the 14 basic sectors.

**[01:02:31.920] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001227)  
Meaning to say that to ensure the full participation and representation at all levels of governments

**[01:02:38.760] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001228)  
pursuant to Republic Act 8425,

**[01:02:41.840] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001229)  
these two legislations plus the Community-Based Monitoring System,

**[01:02:45.780] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001230)  
ito po ang tatlong legal frameworks na kailangan talaga ni NAPC ng karagdagang pondo po.

**[01:02:52.820] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001231)  
Otherwise, hindi natin maaabot.

**[01:02:54.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001232)  
Yung sinabi ng batas, Republic Act 11291,

**[01:02:57.500] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001233)  
that says that there shall be an NPRP,

**[01:03:00.820] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001234)  
the National Poverty Reduction Action Plan.

**[01:03:02.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001235)  
Diba di na kayo dalawang mag-usap, magkatabi na rin lang kayo?

**[01:03:05.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001236)  
Para [unclear] na lang.

**[01:03:06.900] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001237)  
Partner member agency po din sila ng NAPC, ma'am.

**[01:03:10.000] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001238)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[01:03:12.240] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001239)  
PCUP is one of the 27 partner member agencies of NAPC.

**[01:03:16.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001240)  
Anong opinion ni Secretary Rich?

**[01:03:18.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001241)  
Madam Chair, we were all tasked to submit an optimization plan.

**[01:03:21.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001242)  
At nung pinangasiwaan ko sila, sa opinion ko rin,

**[01:03:23.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001243)  
dapat magkasama na sila.

**[01:03:24.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001244)  
The only deviation naman kasi, both of them are, they make policy.

**[01:03:28.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001245)  
Meron lang distinct na role si PCUP because they do the mediation pagka may mga demolition.

**[01:03:33.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001246)  
That's right.

**[01:03:34.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001247)  
But bukod doon, they pretty much act and feel the same.

**[01:03:38.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001248)  
Yeah, yung mga demolition and eviction yung sa inyo.

**[01:03:41.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001249)  
Yung accreditation ng mga urban poor groups, sino?

**[01:03:44.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001250)  
Kayo o sa NAPC?

**[01:03:46.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001251)  
Urban poor, dapat talaga magkaisan nila kasi watak-watak.

**[01:03:50.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001252)  
Pero maliban pa sa dating kasamahan namin, si Senator Pacquiao,

**[01:03:53.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001253)  
may isa pang sikat eh, akala ko na nandito, wala pala.

**[01:03:56.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001254)  
Yung namamayagpag sa social media, yung Sofia Canlas, wala po.

**[01:04:23.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001256)  
Okay, medyo nagigets ko na yung comment.

**[01:04:28.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001257)  
But bago natin hingin kay Yusek Katong i-present nga yung budget ng NAPC,

**[01:04:33.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001258)  
baka Chair Michelle Ann, meron din po kayong comment doon sa tanong ni Senator Aimee

**[01:04:41.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001259)  
at yung dagdag na context na pinag-provide ni Secrex,

**[01:04:44.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001260)  
kung bakit magkakahiwalay pa yung dalawang ahensya nyo

**[01:04:47.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001261)  
at bakit hindi kaya pagsamahin, lalo na dalawang hindi malalaking budget,

**[01:04:51.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001262)  
kung pagsamahin baka mas magkaroon ng impact.

**[01:04:55.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001263)  
I think that's a question behind the question as well.

**[01:04:57.660] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001264)  
Okay, good afternoon Madam Chair.

**[01:04:59.760] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001265)  
So ang PCUP po ay naitatag nung sa visa ng EO82

**[01:05:04.380] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001266)  
para maging direct link between the poor and the programs and policies of the government

**[01:05:09.580] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001267)  
na napalakas ng EO69 para magsagawa ng social preparation.

**[01:05:15.080] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001268)  
Actually, PCUP lang po ang merong social preparation sa mandato.

**[01:05:20.020] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001269)  
Social preparation.

**[01:05:21.880] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001270)  
Asset reform, human development, livelihood programs

**[01:05:26.260] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001271)  
at yung nga pong nabanggit yung Secretary Rex na unique mandate ng PCUP

**[01:05:30.280] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001272)  
ay yung pag-conduct ng pre-demolition conferences

**[01:05:33.720] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001273)  
para sa mga mahihirap na humaharap sa demolition at eviction.

**[01:05:38.740] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001274)  
Ang PCUP po kasi ay nakafocus talaga sa urban poor sector.

**[01:05:45.080] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001275)  
So it's more of the social safeguards na ginagawa ng PCUP.

**[01:05:50.540] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001276)  
So ang understanding ko po sa NAPC, convener po ang NAPC nung 14 sectors.

**[01:05:59.460] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001277)  
So alam ko po, convener sila.

**[01:06:04.440] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001278)  
So meron silang sector ng urban poor, yung NAPC na tinatawag, one of the sectors.

**[01:06:12.020] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001279)  
But yung members nila, pero hindi sila yung as immersed as what we do.

**[01:06:20.540] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001280)  
Na talagang we organize urban poor organizations.

**[01:06:24.820] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001281)  
We conduct capacity building sa kanila.

**[01:06:27.800] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001282)  
We organize them.

**[01:06:29.980] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001283)  
And then kami talaga yung humaharap sa mga local housing board, LIAC.

**[01:06:35.460] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001284)  
Humaharap sa demolition at nagbibigay ng clearance.

**[01:06:41.300] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001285)  
Kung talagang naka-anchor po kasi kami sa UDHA.

**[01:06:45.660] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001286)  
Sa social safeguards ng UDHA.

**[01:06:48.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001287)  
So siguro sapat na introduction na muna yan sa ngayon dun sa ipipresent yung mga budget.

**[01:06:57.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001288)  
And I'm sure factors yung sinabi ninyo pareho dun sa optimization plan na sinabmit na ni Secretary.

**[01:07:03.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001289)  
So I think naman ang Senado is laan na suportahan kung ano yung best na nakikita naming policy direction

**[01:07:11.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001290)  
nung pag-streamline ninyo ng instruments of the executive para ipatupad yung poverty alleviation,

**[01:07:18.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001291)  
at saka yung rights and welfare promotion ng mga informal settlers.

**[01:07:23.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001292)  
So Yuseg Katong, baka gusto nyo ituloy muna yung brief presentation ng NAPC budget para sa aming subcommittee.

**[01:07:31.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001293)  
Yes ma'am. Thank you very much Madam Chair.

**[01:07:33.960] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001294)  
And good afternoon everyone.

**[01:07:36.420] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001295)  
To continue, over 704 local poverty reduction action committees formed out of the almost 1,600.

**[01:07:46.700] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001296)  
Ito po ay...

**[01:07:48.280] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001297)  
50% po nito ay government sector, meaning in the local government units all over the country.

**[01:07:55.040] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001298)  
After having capacitated because of the help also of the Philippine Senate,

**[01:07:58.440] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001299)  
actually pinahabol yung 140 million and thank you very much for that.

**[01:08:03.560] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001300)  
Pero kulang po talaga, ito lang po yung inabot.

**[01:08:06.720] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001301)  
In fact, most of the local government institutions through the help of the ULAP,

**[01:08:10.420] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001302)  
or Union of Local Authorities of the Philippines,

**[01:08:12.240] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001303)  
plus the League of Provinces of the Philippines under the NAPC vice chairperson for government sector,

**[01:08:18.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001304)  
government institutions.

**[01:08:18.280] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001305)  
Or Junta Mayo, tumulong na po sila sa gastusin doon po sa grounds.

**[01:08:23.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001306)  
In other words, for example, sinampulan ng South Catapato,

**[01:08:26.700] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001307)  
ang gastos po doon sa provincial poverty reduction action plans sa isang probinsya is more or less 10 million.

**[01:08:32.220] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001308)  
Sila na po ang gumastos doon.

**[01:08:34.380] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001309)  
And sa Mwanga del Sur, even sa Mwanga City,

**[01:08:37.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001310)  
because we are targeting actually not only that 82 provinces in the country with their consolidated plans.

**[01:08:43.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001311)  
Bottom up, data-driven, and participatory,

**[01:08:47.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001312)  
because in the 704 local poverty reduction action committees,

**[01:08:54.860] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001313)  
may issuance po dito ang local chief executives from the municipalities, cities, and provinces.

**[01:09:00.320] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001314)  
Tapos po, 50% po niyan ay tinitiyak ng NAPC.

**[01:09:03.100] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001315)  
Na yung 14 basic sectors po ay walang may iiwanan doon.

**[01:09:06.860] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001316)  
Yung sektor ng kababaihan, kabataan, including, of course, the PWTs,

**[01:09:12.280] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001317)  
and all other sectors, the fisher folk, yung pinakamahirap po ngayon,

**[01:09:15.360] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001318)  
and the victims of disasters and calamity.

**[01:09:17.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001319)  
Diyan po ay, in other words, yung hindi na about na 11% na gaps na yan po,

**[01:09:24.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001320)  
ayan po yung hinahabol at hinahanap ni NAPC.

**[01:09:26.780] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001321)  
In fact, in the last NB meeting, it was NAPC who really pushed for the full implementation also

**[01:09:33.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001322)  
with the help of the Secretary Katsalian and other partners,

**[01:09:38.900] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001323)  
partner member agencies of the National Anti-Poverty Commission,

**[01:09:42.480] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001324)  
yung ating pong batas na community-based monitoring system.

**[01:09:45.960] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001325)  
At tumulong na rin po.

**[01:09:47.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001326)  
The Armed Forces of the Philippines and Philippine National Police

**[01:09:49.580] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001327)  
para abutin po yung mga areas na, especially in the geographically isolated and disadvantaged areas.

**[01:09:55.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001328)  
In other words, ngayon po ay 704 LGUs na po ito ang nagagawa.

**[01:10:03.200] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001329)  
Consolidation na lang po because, for example, in the province of Zamboanga del Norte,

**[01:10:07.040] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001330)  
the poorest province in the entire country up to this time,

**[01:10:11.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001331)  
ang ano po natin is 27 LGUs plus the province 28 po.

**[01:10:17.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001332)  
In three legislative districts.

**[01:10:20.040] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001333)  
Ito po ay ang gagastusin po sana ng National Anti-Poverty Commission dito

**[01:10:24.300] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001334)  
ay mga more or less 16 million

**[01:10:26.320] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001335)  
para po doon sa thorough planning process in accordance with Republic Act 11291.

**[01:10:32.200] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001336)  
Pero kahit na mahirap siya sa Zamboanga del Norte dahil kinakailangan talaga nila ang P-Prop nila,

**[01:10:37.020] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001337)  
sila na po ang gumastos.

**[01:10:39.040] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001338)  
Kaya dahil nakita nila ang pakinabang na yung mga hindi naabot ay naabot talaga

**[01:10:44.540] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001339)  
dahil po sa participation ng basic sectors na 14,

**[01:10:47.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001340)  
plus the 50% of that ay galing po sa government sector.

**[01:10:52.540] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001341)  
At dito po ay meron tayong joint, gawargyadong Joint Memorandum Circular.

**[01:10:56.760] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001342)  
After the Joint Memorandum Circular 01, Series of 2023 with DBM, with DSWD, with DEB-DEB,

**[01:11:04.040] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001343)  
with PSA because dahil ano siya, data-driven, and with DILG,

**[01:11:11.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001344)  
nagpalabas pa po ng Joint Memorandum Circular, NAPSI, and DILG.

**[01:11:17.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001345)  
01, Series of 2025 na sinisiguro na lahat po ng local government units sa buong bansa

**[01:11:26.780] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001346)  
ay susunod doon sa template at masiguro po talaga na walang may iwan.

**[01:11:33.540] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001347)  
Meaning yung mga gaps po ay naka-cover ni NAPSI.

**[01:11:35.840] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001348)  
Wala pong duplication dahil po yung hindi naaabot ay siguraduhin pong aabotin ni NAPSI.

**[01:11:41.300] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001349)  
In my case, as the oversight head for the Local Affairs Coordinating and Monitoring Service,

**[01:11:47.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001350)  
humbly, I was able to, pinuntahan ko po ang 82 provinces sa buong Pilipinas.

**[01:11:53.780] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001351)  
In one year, kahit ko walang supporta gamit ang pinakalumang sasakyan ng gobyerno,

**[01:11:59.620] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001352)  
18 years old vehicle, but anyway, that's public service.

**[01:12:05.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001353)  
Sa proposal po natin, part ng significant accomplishments sa NAPSI before,

**[01:12:09.560] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001354)  
yan po yung very briefly natin yung proposal, ay 3,654 basic sectors,

**[01:12:17.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001355)  
representatives, ay capacitated po and trained in NAPSI on matters pertaining to the full implementation

**[01:12:22.820] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001356)  
of the Local Poverty Reduction Action Plan.

**[01:12:25.580] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001357)  
Ibig sabihin po, yung five na key planners po ng ating pahamalan,

**[01:12:31.180] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001358)  
middle managers hanggang sa municipalities po, ay nagsama-sama together with DILG, with DSWD,

**[01:12:37.880] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001359)  
almost perfect attendance po, Secretary Rex, ang DSWD, ang DILG, and the five key officials.

**[01:12:47.300] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001360)  
Isa po.

**[01:12:47.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001361)  
Ibig sabihin po, ay sigurado po tayo, ang larga doon sa grounds ay participatory talaga, data-driven,

**[01:12:56.920] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001362)  
and yung budget po, isa rin po, before dito sa, is the strengthened operations and physical target accomplishments po,

**[01:13:11.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001363)  
at saka strong foundation for the NBANC. Magkakaroon po ng NBANC ang NAPSI ngayong schedule po,

**[01:13:17.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001364)  
ngayong November, at ginawa na po ang ating preparation.

**[01:13:21.180] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001365)  
Now, on the budget, ito po ang hinihiling po ng, very briefly,

**[01:13:26.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001366)  
May kopya ako nitong budget proposal sa marinyo, pakifurnish din yung lahat ng mga senador.

**[01:13:33.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001367)  
Ganon din po yung para sa PCUP, itong ganito po.

**[01:13:38.020] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001368)  
We will do that. Thank you very much.

**[01:13:40.220] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001369)  
And I'll proceed to the agency's request to Congress.

**[01:13:44.380] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001370)  
Fulfillment of the 4.5 billion,

**[01:13:47.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001371)  
People's Development Trust Fund under Republic Act 8.425.

**[01:13:50.020] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001372)  
Nabanggit din po ito ni Sen. Riza and Sen. Marcos po sa 2024 at saka 2025.

**[01:13:59.980] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001373)  
Ito yung fulfillment po nito.

**[01:14:01.980] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001374)  
For the basic sector participation in the LPROP or Local Poverty Reduction Action Plan formulation and implementation,

**[01:14:07.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001375)  
including the POP, prototyping, capacity building, technical assistance in project development and costing,

**[01:14:13.980] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001376)  
sectoral consultations,

**[01:14:17.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001377)  
convergence workshop, participatory monitoring and documentation of replicable poverty reduction initiatives.

**[01:14:22.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001378)  
Second is on the 1 billion appropriation for the masagalang pamumuhay sa bagong Pilipinas PLAGSI program and special provision.

**[01:14:33.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001379)  
Because po ang NAPSI ay hirap na hirap po talaga kami doon sa geographically isolated and disadvantaged areas

**[01:14:40.180] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001380)  
because wala kami yung regional offices. Ito po ang tinatarget namin ay kahit makapag-umpis haman lang po ng mga,

**[01:14:45.980] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001382)  
ng offices po doon sa region dahil mas malaki ang gastos po ng gobyerno kung palaging lumilipad po at saka nagka-travel po at saka sa mga islands.

**[01:14:55.920] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001383)  
Pero kung meron tayong targeted, for example, we have targeted 30...

**[01:15:00.000] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001384)  
vulnerable provinces

**[01:15:01.940] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001385)  
and most of the

**[01:15:04.280] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001386)  
municipalities there belong to

**[01:15:07.080] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001387)  
the

**[01:15:07.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001388)  
JIDA in the

**[01:15:10.080] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001389)  
hinterlands and islands.

**[01:15:12.260] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001390)  
Kaya po, actually

**[01:15:14.080] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001391)  
ang proposal ay medyo malaki-laki pero

**[01:15:16.160] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001392)  
kinukonsider po natin yung sinabi

**[01:15:18.020] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001393)  
ni ating Senate President

**[01:15:19.500] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001394)  
at nag-uusap po kami ni Secretary Pacquiao

**[01:15:22.260] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001395)  
na with that,

**[01:15:23.940] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001396)  
considering that one,

**[01:15:26.440] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001397)  
kahit na mauna

**[01:15:28.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001398)  
na lang po daw po yung

**[01:15:29.080] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001399)  
1 billion appropriation for the MBPP

**[01:15:31.600] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001400)  
program pursuant to

**[01:15:33.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001401)  
Republic 11291

**[01:15:35.260] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001402)  
na siya po ang

**[01:15:37.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001403)  
tumitiyak na magkaroon po tayo

**[01:15:39.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001404)  
ng National Poverty Reduction Action Plan

**[01:15:41.500] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001405)  
because the Philippines is one of the

**[01:15:43.320] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001406)  
very few countries na lang po sa buong mundo

**[01:15:45.160] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001407)  
na wala pong

**[01:15:46.820] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001408)  
National Poverty Reduction Action Plan.

**[01:15:49.840] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001409)  
Required po ito ng batas.

**[01:15:51.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001410)  
In Malaysia po, as early

**[01:15:53.620] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001411)  
as 1980,

**[01:15:56.580] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001412)  
when they advanced

**[01:15:57.680] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001413)  
the Malaysia

**[01:15:59.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001414)  
duampu-duampu-duampu

**[01:16:01.300] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001415)  
meaning

**[01:16:03.120] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001416)  
Malaysia 2020,

**[01:16:05.460] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001417)  
na-achieve na po nila yun, Brunei Darussalam,

**[01:16:07.340] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001418)  
immediately after their declaration of independence.

**[01:16:09.500] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001419)  
Ito po, ang Pilipinas po

**[01:16:11.240] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001420)  
ay isa sa mga original secretaries ng

**[01:16:12.960] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001421)  
1965 Covenant on the

**[01:16:15.380] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001422)  
Social, Economic, and Cultural

**[01:16:17.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001423)  
Rights. 2019 lang po na ito

**[01:16:19.480] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001424)  
natin na isa batas at only

**[01:16:21.320] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001425)  
under the presidency of

**[01:16:23.060] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001426)  
Ferdinand Bombong Marcos Jr. po

**[01:16:24.480] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001427)  
ang na-implement in 2023 at

**[01:16:27.220] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001428)  
full-blown punan after my appointment

**[01:16:28.900] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001429)  
in 2024.

**[01:16:31.140] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001430)  
And finally,

**[01:16:32.800] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001431)  
addition of a special provision

**[01:16:34.900] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001432)  
and operation for Local Poverty Reduction Action

**[01:16:37.100] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001433)  
Plans under the LGSF

**[01:16:39.340] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001434)  
because

**[01:16:40.400] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001435)  
masiguro naman po

**[01:16:42.880] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001436)  
na wala naman talagang duplication

**[01:16:44.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001437)  
because nagtutulungan naman po talaga doon

**[01:16:46.880] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001438)  
ang local government units, ang ating

**[01:16:48.840] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001439)  
basic sectors na kinakatawan po

**[01:16:50.960] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001440)  
ng National Anti-Poverty Commission

**[01:16:52.640] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001441)  
which is 50%.

**[01:16:53.780] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001442)  
Yes po ma'am.

**[01:16:56.340] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001443)  
In fact,

**[01:16:57.220] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001444)  
15 po nabalikan

**[01:16:58.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001445)  
bago na-aprobahan po yung

**[01:17:00.840] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001446)  
Joint Memorandum Circular 01 Series of 2025.

**[01:17:04.080] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001447)  
Masabi ko po that

**[01:17:05.260] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001448)  
almost perfected po yung

**[01:17:07.660] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001449)  
implementation natin sa grants.

**[01:17:09.180] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001450)  
Tinitiak po natin na hindi po

**[01:17:11.240] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001451)  
magkamali because ayaw po natin magkamali

**[01:17:13.500] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001452)  
yung National Poverty Reduction Action Plan

**[01:17:15.780] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001453)  
and the Republic 11291

**[01:17:17.520] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001454)  
shall be signed by the President of the Country.

**[01:17:19.740] NAPC Undersecretary Esnaen Catong** (asr-001455)  
With that, thank you very much po.

**[01:17:21.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001456)  
Thank you very much also, Yusek Katong.

**[01:17:23.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001457)  
Chairperson Michal An,

**[01:17:25.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001458)  
yung brief presentation

**[01:17:27.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001459)  
ng budget ng PCUP.

**[01:17:29.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001460)  
Brief kasi yung budget ng NAPSI

**[01:17:31.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001461)  
halos kasing haba nung presentation

**[01:17:33.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001462)  
ng DSWD.

**[01:17:34.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001463)  
Okay lang naman po, Yusek Katong.

**[01:17:36.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001464)  
Malaman naman po.

**[01:17:38.360] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001465)  
Ipinaalala ko lang din sa PCUP

**[01:17:40.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001466)  
kung maari brief.

**[01:17:41.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001467)  
Okay.

**[01:17:42.000] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001467-split-2)  
Salamat po, Madam Chair.

**[01:17:43.900] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001468)  
So, okay, brief.

**[01:17:46.080] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001469)  
Pero bangitin ko na rin po yung

**[01:17:47.520] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001470)  
budget ng 2025.

**[01:17:49.740] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001471)  
Yes, ma'am.

**[01:17:50.360] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001472)  
Para lang to stress na

**[01:17:52.020] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001473)  
kailangan po talaga ng sariling ahensya

**[01:17:55.020] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001474)  
ng ating lumalaking numero

**[01:17:56.940] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001475)  
ng PCUP.

**[01:17:57.060] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001476)  
So, yan ang sagot nyo sa optimization plan.

**[01:18:00.840] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001477)  
Kailangan po talagang mayroong nakatutok

**[01:18:03.080] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001478)  
sa urban poor. Lalo sa projection natin

**[01:18:05.180] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001479)  
until 2050 na expected

**[01:18:07.300] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001480)  
na lumaki up to 80 million

**[01:18:08.940] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001481)  
ang urban poor.

**[01:18:11.220] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001482)  
Mabalik po tayo sa 2025

**[01:18:13.100] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001483)  
utilization rate

**[01:18:15.280] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001484)  
ng budget ng PCUP

**[01:18:16.680] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001485)  
ay 96.85%

**[01:18:19.220] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001486)  
as of December

**[01:18:21.000] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001487)  
31, 2025. Kung saan

**[01:18:23.060] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001488)  
kami po ay

**[01:18:23.800] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001489)  
na-touch, na-reach po namin

**[01:18:26.940] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001490)  
ay 1.5

**[01:18:28.360] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001491)  
1,501,633

**[01:18:31.780] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001492)  
families po.

**[01:18:33.740] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001493)  
Ngayon, for as of

**[01:18:34.960] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001494)  
2026, September

**[01:18:36.940] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001495)  
2026,

**[01:18:42.260] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001496)  
our budget

**[01:18:43.480] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001497)  
utilization rate is 66%

**[01:18:45.740] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001498)  
already.

**[01:18:47.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001499)  
By any chance, nakaslides po ba ito

**[01:18:49.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001500)  
para maipakita natin?

**[01:18:50.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001501)  
Okay.

**[01:18:50.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001502)  
Okay.

**[01:18:52.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001503)  
Ihabol na lang mga katulong yung

**[01:18:54.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001504)  
dagdag na visuals. But please proceed, Chair.

**[01:18:56.940] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001505)  
So, yung slide po na nakasulat

**[01:18:59.180] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001506)  
fiscal year 2026 budget

**[01:19:00.960] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001507)  
utilization rate,

**[01:19:02.680] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001508)  
66%.

**[01:19:03.960] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001509)  
And then

**[01:19:09.020] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001510)  
for the slide, yung comparative

**[01:19:10.800] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001511)  
budget justification,

**[01:19:13.760] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001512)  
fiscal year 2026

**[01:19:15.340] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001513)  
versus fiscal year

**[01:19:16.580] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001514)  
2027 NEP,

**[01:19:18.520] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001515)  
ang aming 2026 po ay

**[01:19:20.740] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001516)  
258,924,000

**[01:19:23.100] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001517)  
for

**[01:19:24.080] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001518)  
2027 NEP,

**[01:19:26.940] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001519)  
244,450,000

**[01:19:29.560] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001520)  
which has a decrease

**[01:19:31.560] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001521)  
of 14,474,000

**[01:19:33.800] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001522)  
or 5.59%

**[01:19:35.780] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001523)  
decrease po.

**[01:19:40.520] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001524)  
Yun lang po.

**[01:19:41.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001525)  
Ah, yun lamang po.

**[01:19:43.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001526)  
What about your proposed budget for next year?

**[01:19:45.600] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001527)  
Yun po, yung 244,450.

**[01:19:49.460] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001528)  
So, yun lamang.

**[01:19:50.640] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001529)  
Apo.

**[01:19:51.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001530)  
Baka naman nasobrahan dun sa...

**[01:19:52.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001531)  
Alala ko na.

**[01:19:53.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001532)  
Hindi po,

**[01:19:54.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001533)  
nabitin po ako.

**[01:19:55.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001534)  
So, that's the...

**[01:19:56.720] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001535)  
Those are the most important points

**[01:19:57.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001536)  
you want to ask us.

**[01:19:58.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001537)  
Okay.

**[01:19:59.160] PCUP Chairperson Michelle Anne B. Gonzales** (asr-001538)  
Salamat, ma'am.

**[01:20:00.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001539)  
So, let's begin our first round

**[01:20:03.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001540)  
of questions

**[01:20:05.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001541)  
sa department at yung mga agencies

**[01:20:07.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001542)  
led by the Senate President.

**[01:20:10.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001543)  
So, sir, let's take

**[01:20:11.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001544)  
up to 15 minutes each

**[01:20:13.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001545)  
per round.

**[01:20:14.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001546)  
Sige po.

**[01:20:14.900] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001547)  
Please proceed, sir.

**[01:20:15.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001548)  
Madam Chairperson,

**[01:20:16.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001549)  
I'll waive my privilege

**[01:20:19.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001550)  
to ask first.

**[01:20:20.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001551)  
I came in late, actually.

**[01:20:22.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001552)  
Senator Aimee and Senator Irwin

**[01:20:23.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001553)  
were here ahead of me.

**[01:20:25.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001554)  
So, I'll waive...

**[01:20:26.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001555)  
I'll waive my privilege

**[01:20:28.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001556)  
so that they can answer.

**[01:20:30.340] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-001557)  
They can ask their questions.

**[01:20:32.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001558)  
Salamat, SP.

**[01:20:33.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001559)  
Senator Aimee.

**[01:20:34.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001560)  
Thank you very much to SP

**[01:20:36.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001561)  
refusing to question

**[01:20:38.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001562)  
his distant brother.

**[01:20:41.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001563)  
Okay lang yun.

**[01:20:42.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001564)  
Maraming salamat.

**[01:20:43.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001565)  
Itatanong ko lang

**[01:20:44.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001566)  
nung September this year,

**[01:20:46.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001567)  
ano, 2026,

**[01:20:47.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001568)  
ang report ng DSWD,

**[01:20:49.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001569)  
550,000 ang qualified

**[01:20:51.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001570)  
na senior citizens

**[01:20:53.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001571)  
age 70 and above

**[01:20:54.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001572)  
identified through

**[01:20:56.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001573)  
the CBMS

**[01:20:58.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001574)  
na uncovered pa rin

**[01:21:00.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001575)  
ang social pension.

**[01:21:01.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001576)  
Extending coverage

**[01:21:02.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001577)  
to the seniors

**[01:21:03.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001578)  
would require 6.6 billion

**[01:21:05.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001579)  
na additional sana.

**[01:21:06.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001580)  
Utang natin

**[01:21:07.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001581)  
sa mga lolot-lola yan,

**[01:21:08.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001582)  
ano?

**[01:21:09.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001583)  
Pero,

**[01:21:10.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001584)  
pinag-uusapan natin yan

**[01:21:12.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001585)  
taon-taon

**[01:21:13.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001586)  
kasi nga may utang,

**[01:21:14.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001587)  
wala naman tayong pambayad.

**[01:21:16.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001588)  
Extending the coverage

**[01:21:17.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001589)  
would be 6.6 nga,

**[01:21:19.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001590)  
pero despite this unmet need,

**[01:21:21.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001591)  
the program's 2027 budget

**[01:21:24.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001592)  
reduced the allocation

**[01:21:26.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001593)  
instead of increasing

**[01:21:29.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001594)  
the allocation

**[01:21:29.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001595)  
while the budget for AICS

**[01:21:32.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001596)  
was increased by 24.8 billion

**[01:21:35.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001597)  
bringing it

**[01:21:36.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001598)  
to a resounding sum

**[01:21:38.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001599)  
of 58 billion.

**[01:21:39.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001600)  
Dinagdagan ang QRF,

**[01:21:41.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001601)  
tinagyagan ang SLP,

**[01:21:43.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001602)  
yung ating mga lolot-lolo.

**[01:21:45.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001603)  
Hanggang ngayon,

**[01:21:46.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001604)  
nag-iintay,

**[01:21:47.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001605)  
nagkakasakit,

**[01:21:49.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001606)  
at nanganganib

**[01:21:51.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001607)  
na matuloy ang mamatay

**[01:21:53.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001608)  
na hindi pa natatanggap

**[01:21:54.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001609)  
ang karapatan nila

**[01:21:55.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001610)  
mula sa BID.

**[01:21:56.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001611)  
Sa gobyerno,

**[01:21:56.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001612)  
why was the allocation

**[01:21:57.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001613)  
for the social pension

**[01:21:59.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001614)  
for senior citizens

**[01:22:00.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001615)  
reduced in the 2027 budget

**[01:22:03.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001616)  
instead of being increased

**[01:22:06.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001617)  
as was discussed

**[01:22:07.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001618)  
year on year

**[01:22:08.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001619)  
so that we can pay

**[01:22:11.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001620)  
for all these lolos

**[01:22:12.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001621)  
and lolas still uncovered?

**[01:22:15.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001622)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:22:16.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001623)  
the Honorable Senator is correct.

**[01:22:19.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001624)  
Yun po yung amendments

**[01:22:20.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001625)  
introduced during the

**[01:22:21.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001626)  
last budget season

**[01:22:23.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001627)  
and by practice ng DBM,

**[01:22:24.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001628)  
they normally strip

**[01:22:26.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001629)  
off all the amendments made.

**[01:22:29.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001630)  
Bumabalik kami sa NEP level.

**[01:22:32.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001631)  
But time and time again,

**[01:22:33.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001632)  
dinudulog.

**[01:22:33.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001633)  
Ang sinasabi po ninyo,

**[01:22:35.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001634)  
Secretary Rex,

**[01:22:36.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001635)  
na yung 6.6 billion

**[01:22:37.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001636)  
na sana pambaya

**[01:22:39.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001637)  
dun sa 550,000

**[01:22:41.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001638)  
na uncovered

**[01:22:42.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001639)  
na mga seniors

**[01:22:43.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001640)  
na binanggit na rin

**[01:22:44.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001641)  
ni Senator Erwin kanina,

**[01:22:46.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001642)  
ibig nyo sabihin sa NEP

**[01:22:47.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001643)  
kasama yung 6.6?

**[01:22:49.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001644)  
No, Madam Chair,

**[01:22:50.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001645)  
yun ano lang.

**[01:22:51.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001646)  
Every year.

**[01:22:52.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001647)  
Hindi lang yung GAB

**[01:22:53.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001648)  
ang nagtanggal.

**[01:22:54.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001649)  
Kayo rin nagtanggal.

**[01:22:56.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001650)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:22:56.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001651)  
hindi ko kami nagtanggal.

**[01:22:57.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001652)  
Ang nangyari,

**[01:22:59.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001653)  
whenever we propose

**[01:23:00.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001654)  
sa Tier 2 namin yan,

**[01:23:01.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001655)  
kasama ho yung lahat yan.

**[01:23:03.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001656)  
Pero ang nababalik lang ho sa amin,

**[01:23:05.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001657)  
yung basic.

**[01:23:06.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001658)  
Tapos during the

**[01:23:06.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001659)  
last Senate budget hearing,

**[01:23:09.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001660)  
dinagdagan nyo po.

**[01:23:10.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001661)  
Kayo rin ho naglagay.

**[01:23:11.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001662)  
Pero hindi the whole amount

**[01:23:12.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001663)  
parang ang nadagdag

**[01:23:14.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001664)  
200 million.

**[01:23:15.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001665)  
Nadagdag natin ng konti.

**[01:23:16.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001666)  
200 million.

**[01:23:17.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001667)  
Yun yung tinanggal.

**[01:23:18.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001668)  
Pero dun lang.

**[01:23:19.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001669)  
Yun yung tinanggal ulit.

**[01:23:20.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001670)  
Tinanggal na naman.

**[01:23:21.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001671)  
Kasi ho,

**[01:23:21.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001672)  
it's a NEP,

**[01:23:23.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001673)  
sorry,

**[01:23:23.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001674)  
it's a

**[01:23:23.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001675)  
Congress

**[01:23:24.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001676)  
Amendment.

**[01:23:26.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001677)  
Yes, it's an amendment.

**[01:23:27.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001678)  
Amendment or insertion.

**[01:23:28.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001679)  
Ayan na,

**[01:23:28.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001680)  
ang mahiwagan tanong.

**[01:23:30.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001681)  
Kaya lang,

**[01:23:31.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001682)  
eto nga,

**[01:23:32.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001683)  
nagtatanong kami,

**[01:23:33.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001684)  
hindi naman siguro

**[01:23:34.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001685)  
karapat-dapat

**[01:23:35.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001686)  
nabawasan yung mga

**[01:23:36.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001687)  
senior citizens

**[01:23:37.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001688)  
to accommodate

**[01:23:38.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001689)  
all disqualified,

**[01:23:40.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001690)  
wait-listed seniors

**[01:23:41.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001691)  
given that the program

**[01:23:43.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001692)  
should provide

**[01:23:43.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001693)  
a regular monthly stipend

**[01:23:45.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001694)  
for all of them.

**[01:23:46.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001695)  
At eto nga,

**[01:23:47.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001696)  
nalalapit ang

**[01:23:48.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001697)  
El Nino.

**[01:23:50.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001698)  
Ayan na naman,

**[01:23:50.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001699)  
yung mga

**[01:23:51.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001700)  
heat-related diseases

**[01:23:52.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001701)  
and deaths

**[01:23:53.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001702)  
will strike

**[01:23:54.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001703)  
against the

**[01:23:55.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001704)  
senior citizens.

**[01:23:56.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001705)  
Once again,

**[01:23:57.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001706)  
what are the reasons

**[01:23:58.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001707)  
that we cannot

**[01:23:59.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001708)  
prioritize their

**[01:24:00.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001709)  
inclusion once and for all?

**[01:24:02.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001710)  
Kahit konti lang.

**[01:24:04.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001711)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:24:05.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001712)  
we share the same sentiments

**[01:24:06.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001713)  
and time and time again,

**[01:24:08.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001714)  
lagi ho namin

**[01:24:08.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001715)  
binavirbalize

**[01:24:09.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001716)  
even when the good

**[01:24:10.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001717)  
senator was our chairman,

**[01:24:11.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001718)  
lagi namin niya

**[01:24:12.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001719)  
pinaglalapan rin

**[01:24:13.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001720)  
yung kinukulit namin

**[01:24:14.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001721)  
na sana

**[01:24:14.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001722)  
i-cover na po lahat.

**[01:24:16.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001723)  
But unfortunately,

**[01:24:17.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001724)  
hindi ho yun

**[01:24:17.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001725)  
nangyayari

**[01:24:18.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001726)  
during the budget season.

**[01:24:19.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001727)  
Pero,

**[01:24:20.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001728)  
rest assured Madam Chair

**[01:24:21.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001729)  
that even in our

**[01:24:22.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001730)  
AECS program,

**[01:24:23.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001731)  
a big chunk of that

**[01:24:23.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001732)  
goes to senior citizens

**[01:24:25.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001733)  
na lumalapit sa amin.

**[01:24:26.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001734)  
for social welfare.

**[01:24:27.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001735)  
Pero hindi kasi

**[01:24:28.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001736)  
maganda tignan eh.

**[01:24:29.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001737)  
Yung AECS,

**[01:24:30.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001738)  
labo-labo po yan.

**[01:24:32.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001739)  
At lumobo na

**[01:24:33.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001740)  
sa 58.1 billion

**[01:24:35.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001741)  
parang panghanda

**[01:24:36.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001742)  
ng 2028 election.

**[01:24:38.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001743)  
Yung QRF

**[01:24:39.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001744)  
naging 3 billion.

**[01:24:41.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001745)  
SLP,

**[01:24:41.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001746)  
6 billion.

**[01:24:43.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001747)  
Palakihan na lahat ito

**[01:24:44.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001748)  
na mga goodies.

**[01:24:46.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001749)  
Samantalang,

**[01:24:47.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001750)  
yung mga nakalista,

**[01:24:49.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001751)  
wait-listed,

**[01:24:50.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001752)  
qualified

**[01:24:51.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001753)  
na mga lolo at lola

**[01:24:52.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001754)  
tinanggal sa listahan

**[01:24:54.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001755)  
at walang ayudang

**[01:24:55.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001756)  
tatanggal.

**[01:24:56.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001757)  
Parang hindi naman yata

**[01:24:57.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001758)  
tama.

**[01:24:59.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001759)  
Sinasabi po

**[01:25:00.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001760)  
ng DSWD

**[01:25:01.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001761)  
na hindi kayo

**[01:25:01.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001762)  
ang gumawa nun.

**[01:25:03.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001763)  
Ganun pa man.

**[01:25:05.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001764)  
Sang-ayon ba kayo

**[01:25:06.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001765)  
sa akin

**[01:25:06.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001766)  
na hindi naman yata

**[01:25:07.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001767)  
nararapat?

**[01:25:08.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001768)  
For the record,

**[01:25:10.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001769)  
sang-ayon ho kami

**[01:25:10.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001770)  
na sana ho

**[01:25:11.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001771)  
ibigay na yung buo.

**[01:25:13.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001772)  
And every time

**[01:25:13.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001773)  
nagsasubmit ho kami

**[01:25:14.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001774)  
ng tier 2 budget proposal

**[01:25:15.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001775)  
po namin,

**[01:25:16.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001776)  
kasama ho yung

**[01:25:17.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001777)  
whole amount na yun.

**[01:25:18.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001778)  
It's always part of our,

**[01:25:20.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001779)  
on top of our

**[01:25:20.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001780)  
priority list

**[01:25:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001781)  
pag nagsasubmit kami

**[01:25:22.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001782)  
ng tier 2.

**[01:25:23.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001783)  
It's a core in the

**[01:25:24.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001784)  
GAA

**[01:25:25.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001785)  
in the net.

**[01:25:26.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001786)  
That's the reason

**[01:25:27.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001787)  
why I am asking.

**[01:25:29.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001788)  
That's correct.

**[01:25:29.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001789)  
Pero ma'am,

**[01:25:30.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001790)  
during the budget call,

**[01:25:31.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001791)  
pag nag-tier 2 na,

**[01:25:32.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001792)  
sinasama namin lagi.

**[01:25:34.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001793)  
Yes, we always include it

**[01:25:35.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001794)  
in our project list.

**[01:25:36.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001795)  
May itatakot din ako

**[01:25:37.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001796)  
dito sa bagong utang.

**[01:25:40.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001797)  
Hindi naman bago to

**[01:25:41.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001798)  
2025 yata

**[01:25:42.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001799)  
ang paglista

**[01:25:43.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001800)  
ng refuel.

**[01:25:45.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001801)  
Yes.

**[01:25:46.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001802)  
At basis sa

**[01:25:47.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001803)  
BESF pa,

**[01:25:50.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001804)  
may financing kayo

**[01:25:52.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001805)  
mula sa ibang bansa.

**[01:25:54.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001806)  
At yung total,

**[01:25:56.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001807)  
cost ay

**[01:25:56.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001808)  
49 billion

**[01:25:58.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001809)  
comprising

**[01:25:59.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001810)  
43.5 billion

**[01:26:01.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001811)  
in loan proceeds

**[01:26:02.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001812)  
and 5.3 billion

**[01:26:04.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001813)  
na counterpart

**[01:26:06.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001814)  
ng gobyerno

**[01:26:06.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001815)  
ng Pilipinas.

**[01:26:08.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001816)  
Kaya lang,

**[01:26:09.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001817)  
sa inyong

**[01:26:10.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001818)  
submission sa DBM,

**[01:26:12.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001819)  
ang na-approve na naman

**[01:26:13.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001820)  
is only

**[01:26:14.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001821)  
74.6 billion

**[01:26:17.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001822)  
including 25

**[01:26:18.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001823)  
in ODA.

**[01:26:20.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001824)  
So, ang problema dyan,

**[01:26:23.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001825)  
you proposed

**[01:26:25.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001826)  
29.6 billion

**[01:26:26.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001827)  
plus billion.

**[01:26:27.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001828)  
Ang nabigay,

**[01:26:28.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001829)  
38,

**[01:26:29.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001830)  
ay 3.9 billion.

**[01:26:31.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001831)  
Kulang-kulang pa.

**[01:26:33.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001832)  
Paano din nyo gagampanan

**[01:26:35.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001833)  
yung project na yun?

**[01:26:36.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001834)  
Utang pa man din.

**[01:26:41.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001835)  
And then,

**[01:26:43.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001836)  
so, one issue,

**[01:26:45.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001837)  
one issue is the amount, ano?

**[01:26:51.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001838)  
Yes, Secretary Rex,

**[01:26:52.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001839)  
eto nga kasi yung problema.

**[01:26:54.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001840)  
Yung isa,

**[01:26:55.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001841)  
kinaltaw,

**[01:26:56.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001842)  
kinaltasan ng todo-todo

**[01:26:57.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001843)  
yung amount.

**[01:26:58.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001844)  
Eh, utang yan, ano?

**[01:26:59.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001845)  
Counterpart.

**[01:27:00.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001846)  
Maliban pa dun,

**[01:27:01.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001847)  
maliban pa sa kinaltasan

**[01:27:03.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001848)  
ng todo-todo,

**[01:27:04.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001849)  
yung isang question pa,

**[01:27:06.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001850)  
yung pag-release.

**[01:27:08.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001851)  
Diba?

**[01:27:09.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001852)  
Kasi binawasan na nga.

**[01:27:10.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001853)  
Tapos,

**[01:27:11.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001854)  
yung funding releases

**[01:27:12.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001855)  
for 2025,

**[01:27:13.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001856)  
nasa 18.3 pa lang.

**[01:27:15.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001857)  
And for 2026,

**[01:27:17.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001858)  
26.6 lang.

**[01:27:19.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001859)  
So,

**[01:27:20.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001860)  
how much of these amounts

**[01:27:22.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001861)  
were actually

**[01:27:23.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001862)  
disbursed to the SWD

**[01:27:25.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001863)  
and you have actually

**[01:27:28.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001864)  
spent already

**[01:27:29.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001865)  
for project implementation?

**[01:27:31.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001866)  
Magkano pa yung

**[01:27:32.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001867)  
unobligated balance?

**[01:27:34.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001868)  
Sana ma,

**[01:27:35.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001869)  
bigyan ninyo kami ng breakdown.

**[01:27:36.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001870)  
Kasi nakaka-nervous to, diba?

**[01:27:38.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001871)  
Mga loan kasi to eh.

**[01:27:39.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001872)  
Pag hindi tayo nakapag-perform,

**[01:27:41.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001873)  
patay tayo dyan.

**[01:27:42.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001874)  
So, kinakailangan

**[01:27:43.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001875)  
magkaroon tayo ng breakdown

**[01:27:45.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001876)  
sa fiscal year,

**[01:27:47.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001877)  
magkano talaga ang allotment,

**[01:27:49.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001878)  
at saka ano yung funding source.

**[01:27:51.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001879)  
Pagkatapos,

**[01:27:53.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001880)  
magkano yung re-release?

**[01:27:54.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001881)  
At nasa kamay na ng DSWD?

**[01:27:57.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001882)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:27:58.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001883)  
we will submit the committee

**[01:28:00.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001884)  
the data that's being asked for us,

**[01:28:01.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001885)  
but bigay ko lang ho yung top line.

**[01:28:03.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001886)  
Tama ho kayo,

**[01:28:04.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001887)  
ang nabigay na ho sa amin,

**[01:28:05.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001888)  
10 billion.

**[01:28:06.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001889)  
Nabigay meaning allotted

**[01:28:08.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001890)  
or released?

**[01:28:09.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001891)  
Released to DSWD.

**[01:28:10.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001892)  
Okay.

**[01:28:11.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001893)  
Kera nyo nabigay?

**[01:28:15.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001894)  
Ma'am, since inception,

**[01:28:16.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001895)  
meron ho nung una,

**[01:28:17.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001896)  
October 30, 2025.

**[01:28:20.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001897)  
Okay.

**[01:28:21.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001898)  
That was a 6.385 billion.

**[01:28:23.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001899)  
6.385 released.

**[01:28:25.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001900)  
Tapos nagkaroon ulit nung

**[01:28:27.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001901)  
January 24,

**[01:28:28.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001902)  
June 24, 2026.

**[01:28:30.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001903)  
4.288 billion.

**[01:28:32.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001904)  
Okay.

**[01:28:33.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001905)  
So, bali 10 billion.

**[01:28:34.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001906)  
10 billion po.

**[01:28:35.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001907)  
That's already with you.

**[01:28:36.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001908)  
And disbursed na rin ho yan

**[01:28:37.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001909)  
based on the schedule

**[01:28:38.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001910)  
of giving it to the beneficiaries.

**[01:28:40.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001911)  
So, how much of the release funds

**[01:28:42.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001912)  
remains available pa

**[01:28:43.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001913)  
for implementation?

**[01:28:44.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001914)  
Doon sa 10 billion, wala na?

**[01:28:46.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001915)  
Ma'am, wala na ho.

**[01:28:47.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001916)  
Kasi remember ho,

**[01:28:48.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001917)  
dito sa program,

**[01:28:49.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001918)  
meron silang redemption schedule.

**[01:28:51.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001919)  
Correct.

**[01:28:52.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001920)  
At assurance naman ho sa amin

**[01:28:53.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001921)  
ng DBM,

**[01:28:54.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001922)  
it's constantly released

**[01:28:55.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001923)  
based on our work financial plan

**[01:28:57.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001924)  
submitted to them.

**[01:28:58.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001925)  
Kasi inaksahan talaga ng tao yan eh,

**[01:29:00.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001926)  
yung refuel.

**[01:29:01.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001927)  
Kasi nga, hindi mo na maintindihan,

**[01:29:03.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001928)  
higit pa sa kasino ang pagbabago

**[01:29:05.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001929)  
ng presyo eh.

**[01:29:06.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001930)  
Kaya, inaabangan talaga.

**[01:29:09.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001931)  
At saka, higit sa lahat,

**[01:29:10.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001932)  
utang pa.

**[01:29:11.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001933)  
Yun ang malupit doon.

**[01:29:12.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001934)  
Ngayon, given na two-year

**[01:29:14.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001935)  
implementation lang ang period

**[01:29:16.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001936)  
na binigay sa loan na to,

**[01:29:18.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001937)  
how is the DSWD going to complete

**[01:29:20.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001938)  
the project?

**[01:29:21.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001939)  
With only 3.877 billion

**[01:29:25.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001940)  
for 2027.

**[01:29:27.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001941)  
Paano niyo hakabulin yung two years?

**[01:29:29.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001942)  
Ma'am, remember,

**[01:29:30.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001943)  
nung time niyo, maliit pa lang siya.

**[01:29:32.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001944)  
Kaya na.

**[01:29:33.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001945)  
Program mas small.

**[01:29:34.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001946)  
So it's released to us

**[01:29:35.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001947)  
based on our disbursement plan also.

**[01:29:37.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001948)  
Correct.

**[01:29:38.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001949)  
So habang lumalaki siya,

**[01:29:39.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001950)  
lumalaki rin yung nire-release sa amin.

**[01:29:41.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001951)  
So Ma'am Chair,

**[01:29:42.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001952)  
alam naman ho ng DBM

**[01:29:44.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001953)  
that this is an ODA

**[01:29:45.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001954)  
and we're bounded by our commitment

**[01:29:48.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001955)  
to the ADB

**[01:29:49.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001956)  
and more so,

**[01:29:50.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001957)  
our commitment to the beneficiary.

**[01:29:52.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001958)  
Kasi recurring yun eh.

**[01:29:54.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001959)  
So far Ma'am,

**[01:29:55.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001960)  
nire-release naman kami

**[01:29:57.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001961)  
during the,

**[01:29:58.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001962)  
ng SARO

**[01:29:59.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001963)  
sa tuwing humihingi.

**[01:30:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001964)  
na kami based on the approved

**[01:30:02.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001965)  
plan ng Walang Gutob.

**[01:30:03.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001966)  
Kaya nga kasi dalawang taon lang yun eh.

**[01:30:06.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001967)  
Kaya kinakabahan

**[01:30:07.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001968)  
ng lahat kung paano yung discrepancy

**[01:30:10.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001969)  
between the total project cost

**[01:30:11.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001970)  
in the BESF and the

**[01:30:13.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001971)  
submission versus

**[01:30:15.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001972)  
the remaining cost.

**[01:30:17.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001973)  
Paano i-finance yan?

**[01:30:19.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001974)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:30:21.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001975)  
ngayon lang naman kasi siya aabot na ng

**[01:30:23.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001976)  
750,000 na beneficiary.

**[01:30:25.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001977)  
So in the payout plan na

**[01:30:27.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001978)  
binidana-download sa amin, palaki ng palaki

**[01:30:29.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001979)  
in-release sa amin. So progressive

**[01:30:31.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001980)  
po siya. Habang dumadami ho yung

**[01:30:33.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001981)  
aming mga beneficaryo, lumalaki

**[01:30:35.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001982)  
rin yung release sa amin. Siyempre,

**[01:30:37.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001983)  
pero sa palagay mo, mahahabol

**[01:30:39.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001984)  
yung two-year implementation.

**[01:30:40.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001984-split-2)  
Madam, yes,

**[01:30:41.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001985)  
because every time naman ho sinusunod

**[01:30:43.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001986)  
ho ng DBM yung release sa amin, hindi pa ho kami

**[01:30:45.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001987)  
napipitin sa aming mga beneficiary.

**[01:30:48.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001988)  
O sige. Maraming salamat.

**[01:30:49.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001989)  
Maraming parang ipapayatan

**[01:30:51.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001990)  
magtatanong.

**[01:30:53.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001991)  
Hahayaan na muna natin sila.

**[01:30:55.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-001992)  
Madam Chair, the required data.

**[01:30:57.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001993)  
Please do so before plenary.

**[01:30:59.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-001994)  
Thank you, Secretary.

**[01:31:01.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001995)  
Salamat, Senator Ami. A quick follow-up

**[01:31:03.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001996)  
regarding a point

**[01:31:05.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001997)  
raised by Senator Ami. But first, the Chair would

**[01:31:07.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001998)  
like to acknowledge the presence of the

**[01:31:09.400] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-001999)  
Minority Leader, Senator Alan. Salamat sa

**[01:31:11.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002000)  
pagdalo ninyo. After my quick follow-up

**[01:31:13.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002001)  
question, I'll ask the Minority Leader kung meron

**[01:31:15.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002002)  
kung gusto nyo rin mag-opening

**[01:31:17.360] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002003)  
remarks. And then we'll move on to

**[01:31:19.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002004)  
the questioning by Senator

**[01:31:21.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002005)  
Erwin. Secrex,

**[01:31:23.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002006)  
yung

**[01:31:24.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002007)  
food stamp program

**[01:31:27.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002008)  
cover at saka yung sinabang

**[01:31:29.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002009)  
it yung ADB e-voucher

**[01:31:31.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002010)  
project nga. Posible ba

**[01:31:33.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002011)  
yung mga ganito ma-prioritize for

**[01:31:35.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002012)  
drought hit or drought vulnerable

**[01:31:37.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002013)  
provinces in relation po sa Super

**[01:31:39.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002014)  
El Nino?

**[01:31:40.130] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002014-split-2)  
Madam, when we submitted kasi that

**[01:31:41.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002015)  
project design sa ADB, ang tinignan

**[01:31:43.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002016)  
na ho, naka-fixed na ho siya eh. Ang tinignan

**[01:31:45.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002017)  
natin, the poorest areas,

**[01:31:47.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002018)  
the hungriest areas, yung may mataas

**[01:31:49.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002019)  
ng incidence of hunger, and the most

**[01:31:51.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002020)  
stunted areas. So, ma'am,

**[01:31:53.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002021)  
it covers a lot of areas.

**[01:31:55.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002022)  
So, ang alam rin naman namin because of the

**[01:31:57.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002023)  
widespread issue na itong

**[01:31:59.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002024)  
El Nino, yung effects niya, malamang ito rin

**[01:32:01.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002025)  
yung mga pamilya na pinaka-vulnerable.

**[01:32:03.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002026)  
Kasi, they're considered the food poor. Hindi

**[01:32:05.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002027)  
malamang. They are the food poor. 750,000

**[01:32:07.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002028)  
families po yan,

**[01:32:09.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002029)  
making below 9,000 pesos when

**[01:32:11.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002030)  
we identified them. So, sigurado

**[01:32:13.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002031)  
po, ito yung tatamaan or tinatamaan

**[01:32:15.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002032)  
na po nung triple whammy na

**[01:32:17.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002033)  
tinutukoy ni Senate President.

**[01:32:20.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002034)  
Salamat, Secrex.

**[01:32:21.460] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002035)  
Minority Leader, gusto nyo bang mag-open

**[01:32:23.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002036)  
yung remarks?

**[01:32:23.850] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002036-split-2)  
Babati lang po ako.

**[01:32:25.160] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002037)  
Good afternoon and welcome the SWD

**[01:32:27.360] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002038)  
family. And I was just wondering,

**[01:32:29.380] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002039)  
pagka nag-debate si Secrex

**[01:32:31.620] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002040)  
at si Senate President Wynne,

**[01:32:34.060] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002041)  
sa pangalan pa lang kasi lamang

**[01:32:35.500] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002042)  
na si Wynne.

**[01:32:38.300] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002043)  
Because, kung

**[01:32:39.460] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002044)  
sasabihin mo kasi

**[01:32:41.500] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002045)  
Sec na si Wynne ang nananalo

**[01:32:43.360] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002046)  
sa debate,

**[01:32:45.600] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002047)  
sa kanya ko nalang padadala yung mga sulat

**[01:32:47.440] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002048)  
kung tanong sa'yo. Pero, pag

**[01:32:49.340] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002049)  
sinabi mong ikaw, having

**[01:32:51.300] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002050)  
said that, I just want to put on record and

**[01:32:53.020] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002051)  
ask na lang ako who I'll coordinate with.

**[01:32:55.300] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002052)  
Yung ating projects

**[01:32:57.220] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002053)  
on anti-stunting. And I know you've

**[01:32:59.380] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002054)  
spent some time. And I think the

**[01:33:01.300] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002055)  
Senate President for

**[01:33:02.460] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002056)  
sabi niya sa akin, pati

**[01:33:05.480] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002057)  
sa family gatherings nyo,

**[01:33:07.620] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002058)  
binabanggit niya sa'yo yun.

**[01:33:09.260] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002059)  
So, I don't want to take up the time of

**[01:33:11.120] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002060)  
Senator Tulfo or the others. But, maybe

**[01:33:13.340] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002061)  
I can, before the plenary,

**[01:33:15.400] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002062)  
mag-usap lang ng konti on several issues.

**[01:33:18.340] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002063)  
And I have to say lang,

**[01:33:19.580] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002064)  
yung mga faith-based groups

**[01:33:21.380] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002065)  
has been

**[01:33:23.400] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002066)  
your supporters from the start. But, there's been a lot

**[01:33:25.440] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002067)  
of problems in individuals.

**[01:33:27.680] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002068)  
So, baka lang we can have a discussion.

**[01:33:29.380] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002069)  
And then, of course, with Yusek

**[01:33:30.760] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002070)  
Rumaldes na churchmate ko rin.

**[01:33:33.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002071)  
Thank you po. Madam Chair,

**[01:33:35.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002072)  
I will make myself available. Ako na who

**[01:33:37.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002073)  
personally.

**[01:33:37.640] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002073-split-2)  
And you always have. So, I thank you for that.

**[01:33:39.400] Senator Alan Peter S. Cayetano** (asr-002074)  
Ako na who personally. Thank you po.

**[01:33:42.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002075)  
Salamat, Minority Leader.

**[01:33:44.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002076)  
Tatawagin ko na sana

**[01:33:45.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002077)  
kayo magtanong. Kaya lang

**[01:33:47.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002078)  
nagparaya kanina si SP kina

**[01:33:48.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002079)  
Senator Aimee at Senator Erwin. So,

**[01:33:51.460] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002080)  
I'd like to call now

**[01:33:53.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002081)  
on Senator Erwin para sa first round nila

**[01:33:55.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002082)  
ng pagtatanong. After that, SP

**[01:33:57.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002083)  
and then Mayno.

**[01:33:57.930] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002083-split-2)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[01:33:59.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002084)  
Ito po yung

**[01:34:01.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002085)  
question ko sa

**[01:34:02.620] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002086)  
Secretary Rex.

**[01:34:05.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002087)  
Mr. Chair, the DBM approved

**[01:34:07.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002088)  
26,711

**[01:34:10.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002089)  
position

**[01:34:11.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002090)  
for the DSWD.

**[01:34:14.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002091)  
Specifically,

**[01:34:14.960] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002092)  
5,711 regular items

**[01:34:17.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002093)  
and 21,000

**[01:34:18.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002094)  
contractual posts aimed at

**[01:34:21.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002095)  
absorbing contract of service

**[01:34:23.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002096)  
and job order workers.

**[01:34:25.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002097)  
Matagal na pong problema ito kahit nung panahon ko

**[01:34:27.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002098)  
pa ito, Secretary.

**[01:34:29.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002099)  
Atin lang pong linawin,

**[01:34:31.880] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002100)  
how many existing COS and JO

**[01:34:33.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002101)  
workers currently serve

**[01:34:35.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002102)  
across the four P's po?

**[01:34:38.300] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002103)  
Supplementary feeding

**[01:34:39.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002104)  
and then kalahi seeds, yes.

**[01:34:42.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002105)  
And other affected programs,

**[01:34:43.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002106)  
Secretary. Madam Chair.

**[01:34:54.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002107)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:34:56.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002108)  
right now,

**[01:34:58.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002109)  
we have 24,000

**[01:34:59.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002110)  
contract of service positions

**[01:35:03.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002111)  
spread across the different programs.

**[01:35:05.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002112)  
And tama po kayo,

**[01:35:06.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002113)  
nag-approve na ho after numerous hearings.

**[01:35:09.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002114)  
The first 5,000

**[01:35:11.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002115)  
regular positions for our case

**[01:35:13.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002116)  
managers, the four P's, na-approve na ho.

**[01:35:15.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002117)  
In fact, we're in the process of filling them up

**[01:35:17.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002118)  
already. Should be done by end of October.

**[01:35:19.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002119)  
And then yung pangalawang 5,000

**[01:35:21.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002120)  
nun, padating na rin ho.

**[01:35:23.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002121)  
They gave us notice to it already.

**[01:35:25.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002122)  
So wala pong ikang

**[01:35:27.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002123)  
mag-i-exceed. Hindi po siya mag-i-exceed.

**[01:35:29.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002124)  
Kasi ang

**[01:35:30.940] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002125)  
nakakatakot lang po at naririnig ko

**[01:35:34.040] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002126)  
na baka may maalis po

**[01:35:35.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002127)  
sa servisyo pag na-i-exceed po siya

**[01:35:38.040] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002128)  
sa 26,711.

**[01:35:40.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002129)  
Secretary.

**[01:35:41.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002130)  
Madam Chair, wala ho. In fact, we made

**[01:35:43.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002131)  
that very clear. We spoke to the

**[01:35:45.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002132)  
union also of the department and assured

**[01:35:47.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002133)  
them that during the regularization process,

**[01:35:50.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002134)  
we will consider

**[01:35:51.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002135)  
all the institutional knowledge,

**[01:35:53.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002136)  
all the...

**[01:35:55.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002137)  
to make sure that the incumbents

**[01:35:57.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002138)  
get first dibs doon sa mga

**[01:35:59.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002139)  
posisyon na yun. Pero wala ho maalis.

**[01:36:01.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002140)  
Madaling salta, wala ho. Malilip, mako-convert

**[01:36:03.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002141)  
sila. Mako-convert sila into regulars.

**[01:36:06.420] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002142)  
Ano po ang

**[01:36:07.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002143)  
nasalistahan nyo, Secretary?

**[01:36:09.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002144)  
Na, I mean, for

**[01:36:11.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002145)  
regularization?

**[01:36:14.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002146)  
Well, theoretically,

**[01:36:15.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002147)  
lahat ho nito dapat

**[01:36:16.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002148)  
regular na sa tagal ho nila. Pero

**[01:36:19.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002149)  
ginagawa ho sa amin ng DBM dahil

**[01:36:21.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002150)  
sa tight fiscal space, unti-unti nilang

**[01:36:23.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002151)  
binibigay at meron naman. So nauna

**[01:36:25.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002152)  
na yung 5,000, may padating

**[01:36:27.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002153)  
na na 5,000 ulit. So that should

**[01:36:29.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002154)  
give us 10,000. So

**[01:36:30.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002155)  
kung yung 24,000

**[01:36:33.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002156)  
na ho na to, nandito pa yung

**[01:36:34.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002157)  
hindi pa kinakaltas yung fiber, di ba?

**[01:36:37.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002158)  
Kung 24,000 na to, Madam Chair,

**[01:36:39.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002159)  
Mr. Senator, mababawasan ka agad yan

**[01:36:41.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002160)  
ng 5,000, sigurado na.

**[01:36:43.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002161)  
And then another 5,000

**[01:36:44.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002162)  
immediately thereafter.

**[01:36:47.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002163)  
So bumababa na ho yung numero.

**[01:36:48.900] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002164)  
Okay. Alright. Moving on,

**[01:36:51.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002165)  
Madam Chair.

**[01:36:53.340] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002166)  
Dito naman po tayo sa mga centenarians.

**[01:36:57.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002167)  
Ilan po sa mga centenarians?

**[01:36:59.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002168)  
Mga milestone age

**[01:37:00.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002169)  
ang di pa po nakakatanggap

**[01:37:02.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002170)  
ng kanilang reward-based expanded

**[01:37:04.860] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002171)  
centenarian act?

**[01:37:06.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002171-split-2)  
Madam Chair,

**[01:37:07.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002172)  
Mr. Senator, I would yield the floor to

**[01:37:09.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002173)  
the NCSC dahil nga ho, hindi namin

**[01:37:11.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002174)  
sila saklaw up to now.

**[01:37:13.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002175)  
Hindi pa rin ho yung

**[01:37:14.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002176)  
relationship status namin, medyo complicated ho eh.

**[01:37:17.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002177)  
They are under the OP,

**[01:37:18.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002178)  
inattached sa amin, but they refuse our

**[01:37:21.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002179)  
hindi ho nila kinilala yung

**[01:37:23.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002180)  
aming mandate over them

**[01:37:24.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002181)  
because nga of the law. So

**[01:37:26.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002182)  
I'll let the Executive Director answer na lang po.

**[01:37:29.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002183)  
Thank you, Secrex.

**[01:37:31.100] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002184)  
Executive Director, Anna Marie.

**[01:37:34.580] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002185)  
Kahit complicated

**[01:37:35.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002186)  
yung sasabihin relationship status.

**[01:37:38.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002187)  
Good afternoon po, Madam Chair.

**[01:37:41.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002188)  
Secrex.

**[01:37:43.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002189)  
Ang tanong po ay kung ilan

**[01:37:45.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002190)  
pa po ang hindi nakaka-receive

**[01:37:47.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002191)  
ng mga centenarians

**[01:37:48.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002192)  
or milestone agers?

**[01:37:50.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002193)  
Apo, yung hindi pa nakaka-receive po.

**[01:37:54.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002194)  
Alright. Ongoing po

**[01:37:55.420] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002195)  
ang aming distribution ng aming

**[01:37:57.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002196)  
cash gifts ngayon.

**[01:37:59.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002197)  
Hindi po kasi ang aming distribution.

**[01:38:01.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002198)  
So, natapos na po ang pamimigay namin

**[01:38:03.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002199)  
sa mga nag-birthday noong 2024

**[01:38:05.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002200)  
at nag-birthday noong 2025.

**[01:38:08.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002201)  
Ongoing naman po yung pamimigay

**[01:38:09.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002202)  
ng aming gifts for 2026

**[01:38:11.600] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002203)  
sa lahat po ng regions.

**[01:38:13.420] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002204)  
So, wala na po kayong backlog

**[01:38:15.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002205)  
madam kalapit?

**[01:38:18.140] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002206)  
Inuubos na po namin

**[01:38:19.620] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002207)  
yung aming pinamimigyan

**[01:38:21.620] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002208)  
ngayon pong last quarter.

**[01:38:23.300] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002209)  
Ilan po ang ikang

**[01:38:24.800] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002210)  
nasa listahan po ninyo?

**[01:38:27.340] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002211)  
90 pa nabibigyan at sinasabing yung inuubos.

**[01:38:29.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002212)  
Yung inuubos yun na lang?

**[01:38:30.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002213)  
Opo. May listahan po kami dito

**[01:38:33.460] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002214)  
per

**[01:38:34.360] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002215)  
15,000 na lang po

**[01:38:39.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002216)  
yung nakaschedule

**[01:38:41.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002217)  
for until December.

**[01:38:43.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002218)  
Yun na lang po ang aming

**[01:38:45.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002219)  
bibigyan.

**[01:38:46.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002220)  
So, by December po

**[01:38:48.880] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002221)  
mabibigyan na po itong 15,000?

**[01:38:51.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002222)  
Yes po. Lahat din po

**[01:38:52.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002223)  
ng mag-birthday noong October, November,

**[01:38:54.520] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002224)  
December. Yan po. Kasama na po

**[01:38:56.260] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002225)  
yung bilang na yan. 15,000 po.

**[01:38:58.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002226)  
Alright. Very good.

**[01:38:59.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002227)  
Thank you po. Thank you.

**[01:39:00.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002228)  
Madam Chair, sorry but I cannot

**[01:39:03.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002229)  
help but not jump in dahil nga

**[01:39:04.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002230)  
we're monitoring this. Yung 15,000

**[01:39:06.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002231)  
just to qualify it, yan yung nag-apply ho.

**[01:39:09.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002232)  
Di ba? Dapatas naman hindi dapat

**[01:39:11.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002233)  
kailangan mag-apply.

**[01:39:12.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002234)  
Automatic yun without a positive action

**[01:39:14.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002235)  
from your end. Dapat when you turn 80,

**[01:39:16.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002236)  
85, 90, 95, you get it

**[01:39:18.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002237)  
all the way to 100.

**[01:39:20.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002238)  
Doon kasi kami may bone of contention.

**[01:39:23.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002239)  
We were telling them

**[01:39:25.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002240)  
na dapat wala ng application yan.

**[01:39:27.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002241)  
We used the CBMS

**[01:39:28.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002242)  
to determine

**[01:39:29.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002243)  
parang actuarial service. Kasi nung nasa

**[01:39:31.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002244)  
amin yan sa DSWD, or may say

**[01:39:33.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002245)  
nung nasa atin, nung nasa inyo pa ho nung time nyo,

**[01:39:35.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002246)  
pinipredict na natin yan

**[01:39:37.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002247)  
2 years or 3 years in advance through

**[01:39:39.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002248)  
a rolling system. But

**[01:39:41.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002249)  
unfortunately, I think the NCSC

**[01:39:43.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002250)  
initiated the new system na yung matanda

**[01:39:45.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002251)  
kailangan mag-apply. So baka akala lang ho

**[01:39:47.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002252)  
natin yung 15,000, eh yun na ho yun.

**[01:39:49.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002253)  
Yung mga hindi nag-apply, mas marami ho yun.

**[01:39:51.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002254)  
Kaya nga, I was asking

**[01:39:52.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002255)  
her kanina, Ms. Calapit,

**[01:39:55.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002256)  
kasi dapat

**[01:39:57.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002257)  
tama naman ho yun.

**[01:39:59.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002258)  
Bakit pa po pag-apply yun yung mga yan,

**[01:40:01.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002259)  
dapat kung nasa system na po yan,

**[01:40:04.220] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002260)  
they don't have to go to

**[01:40:06.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002261)  
ikanga pipila,

**[01:40:08.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002262)  
magka ikanga mag-fill up

**[01:40:09.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002263)  
ng mga forms. Di po ba?

**[01:40:11.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002264)  
Tama po ba ako? Kailangan

**[01:40:12.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002265)  
tamatik na ho yan pagdating nila ng age

**[01:40:15.840] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002266)  
na ganoon, alam na ho ng inyong

**[01:40:17.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002267)  
tanggapan?

**[01:40:20.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002268)  
Hindi naman po siya bone of contention.

**[01:40:22.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002269)  
Doon po kami patungo.

**[01:40:24.200] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002270)  
At yan naman po talaga

**[01:40:25.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002271)  
ang aming balak.

**[01:40:28.060] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002272)  
In fact, ang gusto nga po,

**[01:40:29.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002273)  
nangyari ng aming chair, ay diretsyo

**[01:40:31.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002274)  
na po sa bank account ng ating

**[01:40:33.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002275)  
mga centenarians

**[01:40:35.540] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002276)  
at saka milestone agers, ang kanilang

**[01:40:37.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002277)  
mga gifts. Kaya nga po,

**[01:40:40.240] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002278)  
nag-iimplementa kami ng

**[01:40:41.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002279)  
bagong sistema ngayon,

**[01:40:43.800] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002280)  
inaalam na po namin yung mga bank

**[01:40:45.700] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002281)  
accounts nitong mga centenarians

**[01:40:48.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002282)  
namin. At nakikipagtulungan

**[01:40:50.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002283)  
na rin po kami with PSA

**[01:40:51.700] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002284)  
at saka PhilSys. Nang sa

**[01:40:53.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002285)  
gayon po, yung validation po kung buhay

**[01:40:55.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002286)  
pa po o hindi na yung ating

**[01:40:57.460] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002287)  
centenarians natatanggap ng gift,

**[01:40:59.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002288)  
ay nalalaman po namin

**[01:41:01.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002289)  
through a system.

**[01:41:04.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002290)  
At nakikipagtulungan kami ngayon

**[01:41:05.880] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002291)  
with EGOV, with

**[01:41:07.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002292)  
DICT, para po

**[01:41:09.700] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002293)  
yung EGOV app ay magamit

**[01:41:11.840] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002294)  
na rin po ng ating mga centenarians

**[01:41:14.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002295)  
sa kanilang paglay

**[01:41:15.820] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002296)  
ng cash gift.

**[01:41:17.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002297)  
Thank you po. Matanong ko lang,

**[01:41:19.800] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002298)  
Ms. Emily Bertico, kayo po sa

**[01:41:21.420] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002299)  
Coalition of Services

**[01:41:24.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002300)  
of the Elderly.

**[01:41:25.800] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002301)  
Anong posisyon nyo rito?

**[01:41:27.820] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002302)  
I mean,

**[01:41:29.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002303)  
tama po ba ang DSWD?

**[01:41:31.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002304)  
I believe tama naman po na hindi na

**[01:41:33.820] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002305)  
kailangan. Dapat nasa system na po

**[01:41:35.860] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002306)  
yun at hindi na kailangan pumila

**[01:41:37.660] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002307)  
magpalista pa ang ating mga ikang

**[01:41:39.580] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002308)  
centenarians.

**[01:41:40.840] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002309)  
Yes po. Good afternoon everyone.

**[01:41:43.960] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002310)  
Yes po, naniniwala kami na dapat nga po

**[01:41:45.920] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002311)  
hindi na pumila, mag-submit.

**[01:41:47.780] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002312)  
Kailangan lang po talagang maayos yung listahan.

**[01:41:50.700] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002313)  
So mayroon pong database

**[01:41:51.920] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002314)  
ang NCSC ngayon. Kaso nasa

**[01:41:54.440] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002315)  
national level siya.

**[01:41:55.800] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002316)  
So ang kaya po pinopi,

**[01:41:58.060] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002317)  
ina-advocate din namin sa kanila

**[01:42:00.120] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002318)  
na sana sa LGU level.

**[01:42:02.180] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002319)  
Kasi kapag may once na may

**[01:42:04.200] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002320)  
nag-reach ng age ng for example

**[01:42:05.880] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002321)  
80, automatic po nung

**[01:42:07.620] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002322)  
malalaman sana.

**[01:42:09.800] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002323)  
So yung po yung isang concern ngayon na

**[01:42:11.480] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002324)  
winowork out namin in partnership po with NCSC

**[01:42:14.140] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002325)  
na maayos talaga yung database.

**[01:42:16.300] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002326)  
Kapag maayos na po kasi,

**[01:42:18.160] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002327)  
anytime, alam na natin

**[01:42:20.180] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002328)  
kung sino yung maging 80, 85,

**[01:42:21.940] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002329)  
90, 90, 100, may bibigay agad

**[01:42:24.260] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002330)  
yung assistance po na kailangan.

**[01:42:26.200] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002331)  
Opo, marami po kasi nagtatanong.

**[01:42:28.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002332)  
Sa akin, Secretary, regarding

**[01:42:30.180] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002333)  
this, kung dahil nabalita

**[01:42:32.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002334)  
daw, parang automatic

**[01:42:34.100] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002335)  
pag tungtong ng 80, 85,

**[01:42:35.840] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002336)  
makukuha na nila. So kung magpapalista

**[01:42:38.100] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002337)  
pa po, minsan, ang layo po

**[01:42:40.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002338)  
ng tira na sa liblib na lugar, that is

**[01:42:41.940] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002339)  
the problem po.

**[01:42:44.780] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002340)  
Magdagdag lang po ako. Isa po sa

**[01:42:46.100] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002341)  
concern kapag bank account din po,

**[01:42:48.000] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002342)  
marami sa mga nakatatanda, lalo sa

**[01:42:50.040] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002343)  
mga liblib na lugar, wala naman pong

**[01:42:52.220] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002344)  
capacity na mag-apply ng mga

**[01:42:54.160] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002345)  
bank account. So,

**[01:42:55.720] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002346)  
baka kailangan po, re-parent talaga

**[01:42:57.820] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002347)  
yung makipag-ugnayan na lang

**[01:42:59.780] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002348)  
sa Office of Senior Citizens Affairs

**[01:43:01.460] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002349)  
sa bawat LGU na sila na lang po

**[01:43:03.360] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002350)  
siguro yung magbigay. And also, may

**[01:43:05.520] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002351)  
mga staff naman, yung NCSC right sa ground

**[01:43:07.880] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002352)  
na tumutulong po.

**[01:43:09.620] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-002353)  
So, pwede pong ganun.

**[01:43:10.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002354)  
Thank you, Ms. Emily. Secretary?

**[01:43:13.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002355)  
Senator, Madam Chair, Senator Erwin,

**[01:43:16.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002356)  
matagal na kasi namin ho

**[01:43:17.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002357)  
tinututukan. Nung

**[01:43:19.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002358)  
binigay yan sa kanila, nung kinuha yan

**[01:43:21.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002359)  
sa kanila, binigay na namin sa kanila

**[01:43:23.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002360)  
yung rolling plan. Three years

**[01:43:25.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002361)  
po yun eh. Kasi mapapredict mo naman ho

**[01:43:27.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002362)  
yung the CBMS. And then,

**[01:43:30.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002363)  
pwede na ho i-validate.

**[01:43:31.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002364)  
I think nagiging problema ho kasi, the new

**[01:43:33.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002365)  
system na mag-apply. And the second part of the

**[01:43:35.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002366)  
problem is, kulang ho sila ng tao.

**[01:43:38.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002367)  
Dahil yung NCSC is a very

**[01:43:40.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002368)  
small agency na jumpstart. That's why

**[01:43:41.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002369)  
patuloy ho namin sinasabi noon na

**[01:43:43.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002370)  
ibalik na sila sa amin, the function,

**[01:43:45.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002371)  
kasi yung mga tao ng DSWD dati, yun

**[01:43:47.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002372)  
na rin ang ginagawa. So, pag nakita

**[01:43:49.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002373)  
namin na mag-80, 85 na,

**[01:43:51.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002374)  
ahead of time, pinukuntahan na ho natin

**[01:43:53.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002375)  
sila, pinoproject na natin,

**[01:43:55.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002376)  
bina-validate na. So, medyo nabago ho

**[01:43:57.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002377)  
doon. And I think, mahihirapan ho yung

**[01:43:59.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002378)  
NCSC to cope. Kasi even if you look at their

**[01:44:01.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002379)  
budget proposal, kulang talaga

**[01:44:03.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002380)  
ng tao ho talaga yung NCSC.

**[01:44:06.020] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002381)  
Sek, pahapol ko lang.

**[01:44:08.880] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002382)  
Tama po ba

**[01:44:09.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002383)  
na itong social

**[01:44:10.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002384)  
pension for indigent

**[01:44:13.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002385)  
senior citizens ng

**[01:44:15.440] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002386)  
NCSC?

**[01:44:17.940] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002387)  
Hindi pa po natatransfer?

**[01:44:19.800] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002388)  
Yeah. And then,

**[01:44:21.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002389)  
will it violate section 11

**[01:44:23.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002390)  
RA number 11350

**[01:44:25.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002391)  
which explicitly mandates

**[01:44:27.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002392)  
the transfer?

**[01:44:27.820] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002393)  
of certain functions to NCSC?

**[01:44:30.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002394)  
Yeah.

**[01:44:31.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002395)  
Merong hong executive order

**[01:44:33.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002396)  
na linabas, I think,

**[01:44:35.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002397)  
a year ago, during the last

**[01:44:37.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002398)  
budget season. Kasi nga,

**[01:44:39.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002399)  
ang bone of contention naman ho noon

**[01:44:41.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002400)  
is that will require a big chunk of

**[01:44:43.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002401)  
money to beef up NCSC

**[01:44:45.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002402)  
to perform the function. And then,

**[01:44:47.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002403)  
sinayit doon sa EO na yun, yung

**[01:44:49.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002404)  
optimization law, na ibalik

**[01:44:51.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002405)  
na lang yan sa DSWD dahil nga

**[01:44:53.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002406)  
that function can't be done by DSWD

**[01:44:55.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002407)  
and NCSC can be

**[01:44:57.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002408)  
a policy-making body.

**[01:45:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002409)  
Para hindi na magdagdag ng tao.

**[01:45:01.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002410)  
Kasi yung mga tao namin, dati yun na rin yung ginagawa nila.

**[01:45:04.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002411)  
Wala nang dadagdag pa.

**[01:45:05.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002412)  
Pero pinawasan natin ng narabaho yung tao namin.

**[01:45:08.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002413)  
Okay naman sa amin. Masaya yung mga tao namin.

**[01:45:10.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002414)  
Pero ngayon, humingi sila ng dagdag tao.

**[01:45:12.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002415)  
Alright. Last two points na lang, Secretary.

**[01:45:16.960] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002416)  
Yung sustainable livelihood at saka AICS.

**[01:45:21.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002417)  
Senator Erwin, bago nyo iwan ang NCSC, just one quick question.

**[01:45:25.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002418)  
Salamat. Kay ED, Anna Marie.

**[01:45:27.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002419)  
Ma'am, wala po ba yung chair o kahit sinong commissioner ng NCSC na kasama natin ngayong hapon?

**[01:45:35.520] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002420)  
Madam Chair, hindi po makakadalo ang ating chair at nag-submit po siya kahapon ng letter.

**[01:45:43.520] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002421)  
Nag-aasikaso po sila para sa International Intergovernmental Working Group sa Human Rights of Older Persons sa Geneva, Switzerland.

**[01:45:55.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002422)  
Oti po yung mga commissioners.

**[01:45:56.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002423)  
Oti po yung mga commissioners. Lahat nag-aasikaso dun sa paghahandang iyon.

**[01:46:00.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002424)  
Hindi naman po.

**[01:46:03.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002425)  
So, sana yung mga commissioners na nandirito ay dumalo rin ngayong hapon sa ating hearing.

**[01:46:10.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002426)  
Pakipaabot po yung feedback po ng chair.

**[01:46:13.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002427)  
And aasahan po namin pati si chair at yung mga commissioners ay kasama din po natin sa budget plenary.

**[01:46:21.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002428)  
Yun po ang custom dito po sa mga budget hearings.

**[01:46:24.720] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002429)  
Okay po, Madam Chair.

**[01:46:25.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002430)  
Salamat.

**[01:46:26.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-002431)  
Okay po.

**[01:46:27.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002432)  
Salamat, ED.

**[01:46:27.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002433)  
Anna Marie.

**[01:46:28.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002434)  
Please proceed, Senator Erwin.

**[01:46:29.960] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002435)  
Salamat.

**[01:46:30.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002436)  
Kaya wala na sila dito, Madam Chair.

**[01:46:32.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002437)  
Pinaubayan nila sa DSWD.

**[01:46:34.880] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002438)  
Nandiyan naman na DSWD.

**[01:46:36.820] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002439)  
If you will not show up your leaders, yung chairman po ninyo at commissioner,

**[01:46:40.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002440)  
parang sinasabi nyo na ho, sige na, Secretary Rex na lang po magsasalita.

**[01:46:44.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002441)  
Pero tama po yun, ma'am.

**[01:46:45.780] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002442)  
Barang nakaka-insulto.

**[01:46:47.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002443)  
Sabihin nyo na lang ho sa inyong chairman at saka inyong mga commissioners.

**[01:46:51.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002444)  
Ano po?

**[01:46:52.220] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002445)  
Thank you.

**[01:46:52.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002446)  
Salamat, Senator Erwin.

**[01:46:54.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002447)  
Actually, tingin ko.

**[01:46:55.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002448)  
So, kaya naman nung dalawang ahensya, department at saka commission,

**[01:47:00.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002449)  
i-resolve ito.

**[01:47:01.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002450)  
Alang-alang sa kabutihan ng mga senior citizens natin.

**[01:47:04.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002451)  
At yung autonomy din nung agency na itinayo para sa kanila.

**[01:47:08.360] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002452)  
Salamat.

**[01:47:08.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002453)  
Please proceed, Senator Erwin.

**[01:47:09.780] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002454)  
Yes.

**[01:47:10.220] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002455)  
Last two questions.

**[01:47:12.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002456)  
Let's go to sustainable livelihood program.

**[01:47:15.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002457)  
Binawasan po ba itong SLP ninyo, Secrex?

**[01:47:20.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002458)  
Madam Chair.

**[01:47:21.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002459)  
Madam Chair, it was restored to the NEP level.

**[01:47:24.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002460)  
Kasi yung...

**[01:47:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002461)  
Nagdagdagan po, nanggaling ho yun during the amendment period.

**[01:47:29.300] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002462)  
How much is this po?

**[01:47:30.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002463)  
Ayun, tanggal 1 billion.

**[01:47:32.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002464)  
1 billion, no?

**[01:47:33.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002465)  
And 1B, no?

**[01:47:35.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002466)  
Ang...

**[01:47:35.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002467)  
From the original na 6B, naging 5B na lang ho siya.

**[01:47:41.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002468)  
So, that's why we also put it in our tier 2 na sana dagdagan ho beyond even that level.

**[01:47:46.420] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002469)  
Kasi when I was a secretary, problema na ho talaga ito sa dami po ng kailangan sa mga regional offices po na ninyo.

**[01:47:54.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002470)  
Pati po yung...

**[01:47:55.640] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002471)  
Mga LGUs na...

**[01:47:57.880] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002472)  
Siyempre, gusto po nila na mabigyan na kabuhayan yung constituents nila.

**[01:48:01.660] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002473)  
Nakikita po nila yun.

**[01:48:03.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002474)  
Pero with limited budget.

**[01:48:04.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002475)  
So, you're saying that you're requesting na probably another 1B para sa sustainable livelihood?

**[01:48:09.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002476)  
Actually, Madam Chair, during our tier 2, pinaabot ho namin yung request namin na karagdagang 3.5B para kukam na close to 10 billion.

**[01:48:17.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002477)  
Tama ho kayo.

**[01:48:19.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002478)  
Madam Chair, the good senator knows this very well.

**[01:48:22.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002479)  
Itong programa na ito, nakakatulong ito in the long run.

**[01:48:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002480)  
Kasi halimbawa yung umaalis sa 4Bs, doon natin pinapasok para hindi nababalik sa kahirapan.

**[01:48:30.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002481)  
And it's teaching them how to fish.

**[01:48:32.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002482)  
Tama po yun, Madam Chair.

**[01:48:34.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002483)  
Because parang grant po ito kasi, Madam Chair, itong SLP.

**[01:48:39.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002484)  
Hindi kagayang sa DTI, binabayaran sila.

**[01:48:42.620] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002485)  
Pero ito talagang ibibigay po ng DSWD para pangkabuhayan.

**[01:48:46.700] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002486)  
Well, anyway, moving to another topic.

**[01:48:49.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002487)  
Ito, medyo sensitive po ito at saka napapanahon.

**[01:48:53.560] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002488)  
Last year po, kami po...

**[01:48:55.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002489)  
Ni SP, tinaasan po namin when he was the Finance Chair, yung inyo pong Assistance for Individuals in Crisis.

**[01:49:05.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002490)  
Wala pa pong gera noon.

**[01:49:07.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002491)  
Wala pa pong mga sakuna, kung ano man po yan, dilubyo.

**[01:49:12.340] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002492)  
Pero we anticipated na baka may mangyari kasi medyo nagkakagirian na po yung Amerika at Iran.

**[01:49:19.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002493)  
Tama nga po yung naging desisyon na dagdagan po kayo.

**[01:49:21.600] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002494)  
Umabot po tayo ng 63 something billion.

**[01:49:24.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002495)  
Di tama nga.

**[01:49:25.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002496)  
Ang presidente, kayong unang inilagay sa front line to address the problems.

**[01:49:29.940] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002497)  
Pwede po ba ng mga ating mga transport, pambilin ng mga gasolina, yung mga OFWs natin, tumulong din po kayo.

**[01:49:38.840] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002498)  
So talagang malaki po na gastos po ninyo doon.

**[01:49:42.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002499)  
Pero nagtataka lang po ako, binawasan po sa NEP ninyo.

**[01:49:47.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002500)  
Pero dinagdagan naman na umabot na po sa 30 something billion.

**[01:49:50.980] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002501)  
Well, that is sufficient enough.

**[01:49:53.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002502)  
We're anticipating right now.

**[01:49:55.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002503)  
Paparating po itong El Nino.

**[01:49:57.660] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002504)  
Tapos ito pong gyera sa Iran, di pa po tapos.

**[01:50:00.440] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002505)  
Hindi natin alam kung hanggang kailan po ito.

**[01:50:03.220] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002506)  
Baka ikang umabot na rito.

**[01:50:05.360] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002507)  
Pati nga po yung Yemen, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, mga Houthis.

**[01:50:11.860] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002508)  
Kung saan saan na ho nag-ikang umugat itong problema nito.

**[01:50:15.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002509)  
Meron tayong yun.

**[01:50:16.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002510)  
Yung El Nino, tapos hindi pa po natin alam kung ano talagang epekto nito.

**[01:50:23.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002511)  
So, papano ito?

**[01:50:25.480] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002512)  
What are you planning?

**[01:50:26.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002513)  
Is it enough?

**[01:50:27.800] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002514)  
Is it enough na dinagdagan po sa gab?

**[01:50:30.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002515)  
Unfortunately, una po, Madam Chair,

**[01:50:32.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002516)  
gusto kong magpasalamat kay Senator Erwin,

**[01:50:35.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002517)  
kay Senator Sherwin dahil binalik ko yan na dinagdagan.

**[01:50:38.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002518)  
Yung dinagdag ho naging standby fund natin.

**[01:50:40.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002519)  
Nung kasagsagan nito, at hindi ko naman pwede sabihin natapos na,

**[01:50:43.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002520)  
nung sa transport sector alone,

**[01:50:45.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002521)  
close to 10 billion in one month ang ginamit natin para sa mga transport workers natin.

**[01:50:51.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002522)  
Doon natin kinuha yun.

**[01:50:53.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002523)  
It became our lifeline.

**[01:50:55.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002524)  
So, kaya naka-respond tayo kaagad.

**[01:50:56.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002525)  
In fact, nagpa-quick survey ho ang SWS tulad na nabanggit ko kanina.

**[01:51:01.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002526)  
96% of the respondents doon sa catchment said,

**[01:51:04.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002527)  
ginamit nila yung pera para magpatuloy ng hanap buhay.

**[01:51:07.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002528)  
80% naman ang sinabi, ginamit nila yun para makabili ng pagkain nung nangangailangan sila.

**[01:51:13.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002529)  
So, ngayon nangangamba ho kami sa pagbawas na meron nga triple whammy na ina-anticipate,

**[01:51:18.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002530)  
pero nabawasan naman ho kami.

**[01:51:19.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002531)  
Kaya nga ho, maraming salamat sa tanong na dumudulog kami ngayon ulit

**[01:51:22.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002532)  
sa Komitee at sa Senado na sana ibalik man lang doon sa level ng GAAP last year.

**[01:51:30.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002533)  
Kahit ngayon, very tight na eh.

**[01:51:33.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002534)  
Pero kung talagang tight fiscal space, maibalik man lang doon.

**[01:51:36.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002535)  
Palagay ko, mas kakayanin natin ng konti po.

**[01:51:39.360] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002536)  
Will that sustain isa ka sakali?

**[01:51:42.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002537)  
I mean, ang pinag-usapan lang kasi natin, in-anticipate natin po yung El Niño.

**[01:51:46.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002538)  
Pero paano kung may mga darating pa ng mga dilubyok at baka magkakaroon pa po ng gera,

**[01:51:51.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002539)  
hindi ho natin alam.

**[01:51:52.720] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002540)  
Will that be sufficient na ikanga para, kasi kayo po laging pag may mga ganito sitwasyon,

**[01:51:59.660] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002541)  
DSWD, nandoon ho kayo sa front line.

**[01:52:02.500] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002542)  
May problema po ang mga magsasakan natin, DSWD, natulong din po.

**[01:52:06.660] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002543)  
Mangingis na, DSWD pa rin ho.

**[01:52:08.840] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002544)  
So, ano ho, what is your take on this?

**[01:52:14.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002545)  
Sabi ko ho ito sa House, nung pinatawag ho kami during the budget season,

**[01:52:17.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002546)  
nangangamba rin ho kami.

**[01:52:20.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002547)  
Nangangamba kami na yung natira na,

**[01:52:22.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002548)  
eh maaaring hindi sasapat, kaya dumudulog ho kami na sana ibalik man lang,

**[01:52:26.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002549)  
man lang, to the minimum sa gaal level.

**[01:52:30.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002550)  
Madam Chair, tama ho kayo na kulang kung titignan.

**[01:52:34.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002551)  
Pero gusto ko rin ho i-assure yung committee na kung mabalik ho yun,

**[01:52:37.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002552)  
kaya naman namin i-balance siya with the quick response.

**[01:52:42.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002553)  
Kasi kanina nabanggit na rin ho yung quick response.

**[01:52:44.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002554)  
Dahil the quick response, kami ho ang pinaka, DSWD po ang pinakamalaking user po noon.

**[01:52:49.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002555)  
So, pinagsasabay ho namin gamitin yan.

**[01:52:51.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002556)  
Pero admittedly, kahit tignan nyo yung quick response,

**[01:52:53.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002557)  
by this time, medyo konti na rin ho yung balance ng Ndream Fund.

**[01:52:58.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002558)  
Meron pa, pero konti na.

**[01:53:00.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002559)  
Now, Madam Chair, there was a year na binibigyan kami ng Office of,

**[01:53:04.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002560)  
which is, hindi naman dapat,

**[01:53:06.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002561)  
but binibigyan kami rin ng contingency fund galing sa Office of the President to augment.

**[01:53:11.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002562)  
Pero alam ko po yung sinasabi nyo na paano pag hindi kayo bigyan,

**[01:53:15.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002563)  
eh di mabibitin ho.

**[01:53:16.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002564)  
And kung pwede ho, dagdagan pa beyond the gaal level because of the anticipated,

**[01:53:21.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002565)  
inflationary effects na tuloy-tuloy.

**[01:53:24.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002566)  
Yung El Nino na not just the farmers, but the prices of goods and food actually,

**[01:53:30.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002567)  
baka tumaas rin.

**[01:53:32.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002568)  
And then, meron pa ho yung sunod-sunod na mga regular ho na mga pangangailangan,

**[01:53:36.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002569)  
talagang kukulangin po.

**[01:53:38.340] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002570)  
Alright.

**[01:53:39.400] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002571)  
Yung QRF ho na nabanggit ho ninyo last year,

**[01:53:43.040] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002572)  
nung nagkagulo na nga po, nagkagero na nga.

**[01:53:45.520] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002573)  
I called my good friend, Yuseca Dayan Cahipe.

**[01:53:50.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002574)  
Sabi niya, meron pa naman.

**[01:53:51.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002575)  
Sen, may budget pa.

**[01:53:53.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002576)  
Pero kailangan lang i-juggle siguro yung Secretary Rex Gatchal yan.

**[01:53:57.200] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002577)  
Kumusta naman po itong QRF ninyo?

**[01:53:59.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002578)  
Nabawasan ba?

**[01:54:00.900] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002579)  
Ninagdagan ba?

**[01:54:02.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002580)  
Kailangan ba medyo malaki-laki?

**[01:54:04.220] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002581)  
Just in case po.

**[01:54:05.100] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002582)  
Just in case.

**[01:54:05.680] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002583)  
Hindi naman natin ikang pinagdarasal na sana dumating lahat itong problema.

**[01:54:11.160] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002584)  
Pero will that be sufficient po itong QRF?

**[01:54:14.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002585)  
Sen, Madam Chair.

**[01:54:16.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002586)  
Una po, nagpapasalamatin kami sa inyo.

**[01:54:18.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002587)  
Dahil yung standby fund na seed capital ng QRF, nilakihan ho nyo last time.

**[01:54:23.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002588)  
Umabot na ho ng 3 billion yun.

**[01:54:25.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002589)  
Crucial ho kasi yun dahil yung replenishment mechanism takes around,

**[01:54:30.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002590)  
magbilis na ho ngayon.

**[01:54:31.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002591)  
But syempre meron hong documentation.

**[01:54:33.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002592)  
Umabot ng 2 weeks.

**[01:54:35.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002593)  
So in that 2 weeks time, maraming pwedeng mangyari.

**[01:54:38.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002594)  
Nag-aantay yung beneficiaryo.

**[01:54:40.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002595)  
Pero kaya nga ho, natuwa kami na sa house, ibinalik sa 3 billion.

**[01:54:45.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002596)  
From 1.5, ibinalik sa 2.1.

**[01:54:48.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002597)  
1.5, 1.25, ibinalik ulit sa 3.

**[01:54:52.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002598)  
Kasi that gives us the leg room na yung term nyo, mabalans eh.

**[01:54:56.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002599)  
So habang humihingi kami ng replenishment, tuloy-tuloy pa rin activity sa baba

**[01:55:00.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002600)  
sa pagbayad ng emergency cash transfer.

**[01:55:02.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002601)  
Pero kung tatanungin niyo ako kung kasha,

**[01:55:05.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002602)  
if you look at the balance ng Ndream Fund right now,

**[01:55:10.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002603)  
ang natitira na lang ho na balance ng Ndream Fund is 900 million.

**[01:55:15.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002604)  
Kasi hindi lang ho kami ang gumagamit noon.

**[01:55:17.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002605)  
Marami hong gumagamit.

**[01:55:18.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002606)  
Pero there was a prior year, huwag ho tayo not to raise the worry of anybody.

**[01:55:24.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002607)  
Meron rin hong year na replenish ho yan ng Office of the President using their contingency fund.

**[01:55:29.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002608)  
So meron ho siyang back-to-back na alam naman ho ng Office of the President

**[01:55:33.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002609)  
na pag mababa na yun, ginalagyan rin ho nila ng pera.

**[01:55:36.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002610)  
I think I've also experienced that, Secretary, when I was a Secretary of DSW,

**[01:55:41.180] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002611)  
nagsunod-sunod na po, may earthquake po sa Abra

**[01:55:44.240] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002612)  
and then may landslide po sa...

**[01:55:47.200] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002613)  
sa Barm, sa Maguindanao.

**[01:55:52.300] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002614)  
So sunod-sunod din.

**[01:55:53.180] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002615)  
I am very aware na yung pondo na yan, pinabibili po ng mga food packs,

**[01:55:58.080] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002616)  
sobrang dami pagkatapos yung mga, syempre, materials sa mga bahay.

**[01:56:02.940] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002617)  
So yun lang ho yung concern natin.

**[01:56:05.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002618)  
What if, hindi pa natin alam, hindi pa natin ma-estimate itong damage na gagawin po ng ilin ninyo na ito.

**[01:56:11.320] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002619)  
Pero will you agree with me, mas maganda siguro na prepared ho tayo na meron tayong pera,

**[01:56:17.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002620)  
sa bulsa, na ipamimigay, itutulog sa mga kababayan natin.

**[01:56:20.540] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002621)  
Because, who never know, hindi lang naman magsasaka maapektuhan dito.

**[01:56:24.440] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002622)  
Pati siguro yung mga fisher folks natin, pati po yung ordinary yung tao, di po ba,

**[01:56:29.900] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002623)  
na kailangan may mga pampagamot, di ba, kaya sa sobrang init.

**[01:56:33.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002624)  
So kaya kailangan siguro natin na tag-aralan at dagdagan mo siguro.

**[01:56:37.840] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002625)  
So how much are we looking at dito sa, yung sabi nyo kanina, sa AX, kahit na kung hindi abot mo ng 63, mga nasa 50.

**[01:56:47.200] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002626)  
Sa QRF, ilan ho ang dapat?

**[01:56:50.120] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002627)  
Yung ikang napupwede para hindi ho tayo nangangamba, hindi ka nangangamba.

**[01:56:56.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002628)  
Madam Chair, yung balikan ko lang yung AX ho, since nabalik ho ulit, sana mabalik man lang sa 63.

**[01:57:01.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002629)  
That's our minimum sana. Huwag na ho bababa sana doon.

**[01:57:04.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002630)  
Kasi as it is right now, nauubos ho yun.

**[01:57:06.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002631)  
Now, dito lang sa Quick Response Fund.

**[01:57:09.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002632)  
Just to give you an idea, kanina na-flash naman ho namin, naka 13.6 billion na ho ang DSWD alone.

**[01:57:16.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002633)  
Hindi pa ho kasama.

**[01:57:17.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002634)  
Tama yung mga ibang ahensya na kumukuha ho doon.

**[01:57:19.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002635)  
So tama ho kayo, sana matignan rin ho yun kung paano siya i-beef up.

**[01:57:24.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002636)  
Kasi from my understanding, it is a percentage of the, mayroon siyang fixed formula po siya.

**[01:57:31.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002637)  
So I think we will be restrained by the N-DREAM law kung paano siya ilalakihan.

**[01:57:37.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002638)  
Pero kung mabibisita po, much better.

**[01:57:41.220] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002639)  
Okay. Thank you po.

**[01:57:43.260] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002640)  
Finally po, isa na lamang nga talaga, Madam Chair.

**[01:57:46.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002641)  
Sige po.

**[01:57:47.200] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002642)  
All right.

**[01:57:48.060] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002643)  
Yun pong pondo po, kasama na po ba dito sa OSEC ito, yung para sa pagpapagawa ninyo sana,

**[01:57:58.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002644)  
na you were discussing with me, ng home for the elderly sa Visayas region, Secretary?

**[01:58:05.520] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002645)  
That's a very, very good idea po for our cities.

**[01:58:09.640] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002646)  
Kasi dito sa Metro Manila, meron po tayo, diba, yung Golden Acres.

**[01:58:13.740] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002647)  
Sa Visayas po, kayo nakaisip noon na gusto rin yun.

**[01:58:17.200] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002648)  
Ang lagyan para yung mga na-abandon na na, na mga matatanda, meron silang shelter sa Visayas.

**[01:58:23.600] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002649)  
Nakasama na po ba ito sa OSEC budget na inaprubahan din po ng, dumaan na rin sa GAB?

**[01:58:29.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002650)  
Unfortunately, hindi ho nakasama dahil karamihan ho ng budget na nasa OSEC are grants.

**[01:58:34.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002651)  
Yan ho marami ho dyan are grants. Wala halos na capital expenditure.

**[01:58:39.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002652)  
Nag-submit kami ng Tier 2.

**[01:58:41.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002653)  
Ang request nga ho namin is to construct itong home for the aged.

**[01:58:45.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002654)  
Pangalawa, to also repair yung mga existing.

**[01:58:47.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002655)  
Ang listing din ho natin.

**[01:58:48.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002656)  
But it was not considered.

**[01:58:51.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002657)  
That's why we're lobbying again and it's part of our submission na sana mapigyan ho ng atensyon when the period of amendments comes into play.

**[01:58:59.000] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002658)  
Hindi po napasama ito sa capital outlay ninyo for 2027?

**[01:59:03.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002659)  
Wala ho, hindi ho siya na take up.

**[01:59:05.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002660)  
Wala ho sa NEP namin.

**[01:59:07.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002661)  
Wala rin ho sa HGAB.

**[01:59:09.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002662)  
Pero nasa Tier 2 po namin.

**[01:59:11.380] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002663)  
Alright. Thank you, Secretary.

**[01:59:13.200] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002664)  
Well, anyway, Madam Chair, I really do support.

**[01:59:16.900] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002665)  
Ito pong budget ng DSWD.

**[01:59:21.460] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002666)  
And kung ako pong tatanungin nyo as a DSWD Secretary, sakit po talaga sa ulo pag may mga dilubyo.

**[01:59:27.920] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002667)  
Kinakabahan po ang Secretary dahil una pong tinatawagan ka agad ng Pangulo ang kalihim po ng DSWD na tinatanong kung kumusta.

**[01:59:36.620] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002668)  
So early in the morning, 4 o'clock, 5 o'clock, sumatawag na po ang Malacanang at kinukumusta.

**[01:59:42.360] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002669)  
Anyway, I know the feeling as Secretary.

**[01:59:44.760] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002670)  
But I do support.

**[01:59:46.040] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002671)  
But Madam Chair, and then hopefully sa plenary, we can add yung mga wish list po nila.

**[01:59:53.140] Senator Erwin T. Tulfo** (asr-002672)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[01:59:54.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002673)  
Thank you, Senator Erwin. Pagtulungan po natin yan.

**[01:59:56.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002674)  
So now, ang salamat sa pasensya ninyo.

**[01:59:59.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002675)  
It's the turn.

**[02:00:00.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002676)  
of the Senate President.

**[02:00:01.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002677)  
Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

**[02:00:04.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002678)  
Sundan ko po yung mga tanong

**[02:00:05.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002679)  
ni Senator Erwin

**[02:00:06.820] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002680)  
dahil marami po siyang importanteng

**[02:00:09.820] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002681)  
points na na-raise

**[02:00:12.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002682)  
one of which itong

**[02:00:13.640] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002683)  
I saw in the slide of the SWD

**[02:00:16.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002684)  
slide 11

**[02:00:18.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002685)  
Wait, can we

**[02:00:19.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002686)  
flash it for a sec?

**[02:00:23.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002687)  
Na

**[02:00:24.000] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002688)  
nabibigay sa QRF

**[02:00:28.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002689)  
for example

**[02:00:29.900] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002690)  
in 2026, nabigay sa

**[02:00:31.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002691)  
QRF is 3 billion

**[02:00:33.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002692)  
but yung replenishment is

**[02:00:35.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002693)  
13. So, it's almost

**[02:00:37.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002694)  
4 times the amount

**[02:00:39.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002695)  
Pa-flash, ComSec?

**[02:00:41.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002696)  
Page 20 po ba yun, Tech?

**[02:00:44.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002697)  
Quick response, Juan.

**[02:00:46.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002698)  
Page 20

**[02:00:47.640] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002699)  
The SWD slide

**[02:00:59.900] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002700)  
and so

**[02:01:02.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002701)  
and then

**[02:01:03.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002702)  
13 billion ang replenishment

**[02:01:05.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002703)  
This is September, di pa tayo tapos

**[02:01:07.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002704)  
ang taon

**[02:01:08.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002705)  
Earlier, we had a hearing

**[02:01:12.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002706)  
with the Department of Agriculture

**[02:01:14.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002707)  
at magandang sinabi

**[02:01:16.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002708)  
ni Secretary Kiko

**[02:01:18.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002709)  
na merong very close

**[02:01:20.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002710)  
coordination with the SWD

**[02:01:22.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002711)  
and DOLE to respond to

**[02:01:24.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002712)  
those who are affected

**[02:01:26.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002713)  
by El Nino

**[02:01:27.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002714)  
So, nako-conserve

**[02:01:29.900] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002715)  
nagiging efficient yung

**[02:01:31.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002716)  
pagtulong natin sa tao

**[02:01:33.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002717)  
but in this case, makikita natin na

**[02:01:36.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002718)  
ganito kalaki

**[02:01:37.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002719)  
yung replenishment

**[02:01:39.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002720)  
and kung ibabangga natin

**[02:01:42.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002721)  
ito sa 2027

**[02:01:43.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002722)  
it's only 1.25 billion

**[02:01:46.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002723)  
So, obviously

**[02:01:47.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002724)  
obviously

**[02:01:50.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002725)  
magre-replenish yan

**[02:01:51.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002726)  
and

**[02:01:52.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002727)  
like I said in my opening speech

**[02:01:56.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002728)  
in El Nino, umpisa pa lang

**[02:01:57.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002729)  
eh

**[02:01:58.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002730)  
at

**[02:02:00.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002731)  
in-expect natin na mas

**[02:02:03.000] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002732)  
sasabay ito doon

**[02:02:06.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002733)  
sa nangyayari sa Iran

**[02:02:07.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002734)  
which is inflationary

**[02:02:09.940] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002735)  
at hopefully

**[02:02:11.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002736)  
wala na tayong makita pang iba pang

**[02:02:13.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002737)  
mga natural calamities

**[02:02:15.880] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002738)  
So,

**[02:02:17.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002739)  
gusto ko lang i-point out

**[02:02:19.820] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002740)  
yan and

**[02:02:21.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002741)  
when we were looking at the

**[02:02:24.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002742)  
NEP

**[02:02:25.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002743)  
and DREAM Fund, kung saan yung source

**[02:02:27.840] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002744)  
yan, di ba?

**[02:02:28.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002745)  
Yan ang source ng replenishment

**[02:02:30.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002746)  
nabawasan siya ng 9 billion

**[02:02:32.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002747)  
from NEP to GAB

**[02:02:33.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002748)  
Center Tulfo

**[02:02:36.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002749)  
So, this is a

**[02:02:38.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002750)  
for me, a concerning

**[02:02:39.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002751)  
event

**[02:02:42.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002752)  
dahil

**[02:02:43.940] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002753)  
alam natin na

**[02:02:48.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002754)  
delikado tayo in the next

**[02:02:50.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002755)  
maybe in the next 6 to 12 months

**[02:02:52.900] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002756)  
because of El Nino

**[02:02:54.840] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002757)  
but yan again

**[02:02:55.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002758)  
nabawasan ng 9.5 billion

**[02:02:58.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002759)  
yung N-DREAM Fund

**[02:02:59.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002760)  
of which yan ang source ng department

**[02:03:02.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002761)  
pag nagre-replenish

**[02:03:04.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002762)  
So, in other words

**[02:03:05.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002763)  
the point I'm trying to make

**[02:03:07.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002764)  
agawan na nga yung

**[02:03:08.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002765)  
N-DREAM Fund

**[02:03:10.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002766)  
and nakita natin dito sa replenishment

**[02:03:12.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002767)  
at the same time

**[02:03:14.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002768)  
nabawasan pa

**[02:03:15.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002769)  
So, yun yung isang bagay na

**[02:03:17.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002770)  
we will work here in the Senate

**[02:03:20.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002771)  
na mabalik ma-restore yung

**[02:03:22.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002772)  
NEP level ng N-DREAM

**[02:03:23.940] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002773)  
dahil nakikita ko in the next 12 months

**[02:03:26.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002774)  
talagang kakalanganin natin

**[02:03:28.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002775)  
ang standby fund

**[02:03:30.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002776)  
for the support

**[02:03:32.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002777)  
to our constituents

**[02:03:33.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002778)  
especially our farmers, fisher folks

**[02:03:36.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002779)  
yung mga

**[02:03:38.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002780)  
tinamaan ng inflation

**[02:03:42.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002781)  
alam ko nagbigay rin kayo

**[02:03:44.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002782)  
ng tulong dun sa mga poor

**[02:03:46.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002783)  
and near poor, which is about

**[02:03:47.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002784)  
3 million families, tama ba?

**[02:03:50.000] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002785)  
In total, 7.5 million

**[02:03:51.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002786)  
7.5 families

**[02:03:52.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002787)  
Hindi pa tayo kasi tapos sa inflationary effects

**[02:03:56.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002788)  
Nandiyan pa siya

**[02:03:58.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002789)  
and yun naman ang binabantayan natin

**[02:04:00.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002790)  
dahil inflation

**[02:04:01.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002791)  
can push our

**[02:04:04.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002792)  
push our efforts

**[02:04:07.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002793)  
to lower down poverty incidents back

**[02:04:09.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002794)  
So, we need to make sure

**[02:04:10.840] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002795)  
that we have that resources

**[02:04:12.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002796)  
para matulungan natin sila

**[02:04:14.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002797)  
at least temporarily

**[02:04:17.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002798)  
o pangtawid lang hanggang matapos tayo

**[02:04:19.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002799)  
dito sa mga crisis na hinaharap natin

**[02:04:21.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002800)  
So, I just want to

**[02:04:23.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002801)  
put that on record na

**[02:04:25.340] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002802)  
we need to restore

**[02:04:26.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002803)  
itong N-DREAM Fund

**[02:04:28.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002804)  
na nabawasan

**[02:04:29.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002805)  
ng 9.5 billion pesos

**[02:04:31.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002806)  
I agree Madam Chair

**[02:04:35.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002807)  
with the observation

**[02:04:36.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002808)  
In fact, isa ko yan sana sa pabanggitin namin

**[02:04:38.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002809)  
pero naunahan na ho kami

**[02:04:39.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002810)  
dahil nga the DSWD uses the replenishment

**[02:04:43.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002811)  
not just for emergency cash transfer

**[02:04:45.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002812)  
pero yung mga food packs na pinamimigay natin

**[02:04:47.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002813)  
at saka yung mga logistics costs

**[02:04:49.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002814)  
entailed to it, doon rin ho namin kinukuha

**[02:04:51.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002815)  
and it will severely impair

**[02:04:53.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002816)  
our, not just kami

**[02:04:54.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002817)  
everybody, any department

**[02:04:56.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002818)  
tapped into the N-DREAM Funds

**[02:04:58.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002819)  
will be impaired in responding

**[02:05:00.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002820)  
to any crisis

**[02:05:01.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002821)  
And then I saw dito doon sa slide nyo

**[02:05:04.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002822)  
ginamit nito for disaster affected families

**[02:05:07.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002823)  
so marami dito

**[02:05:09.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002824)  
prepositioning of goods

**[02:05:11.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002825)  
So, it's really

**[02:05:14.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002826)  
sabi nga ni Sen. Erwin

**[02:05:15.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002827)  
kailangan na kailangan ito

**[02:05:16.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002828)  
dahil pag may mga ganitong disaster

**[02:05:18.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002829)  
ang unang tinatawagan

**[02:05:20.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002830)  
DSWD Secretary

**[02:05:22.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002831)  
at hindi lang naman

**[02:05:23.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002832)  
pag may disaster na

**[02:05:24.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002833)  
dapat yung goods naka-preposition

**[02:05:26.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002834)  
or else

**[02:05:27.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002835)  
paano naman magre-responde

**[02:05:29.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002836)  
ang gobyerno kung walang goods

**[02:05:31.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002837)  
na naka-preposition

**[02:05:32.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002838)  
My next question

**[02:05:36.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002839)  
is also related doon sa mga

**[02:05:38.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002840)  
tanong ni Sen. Erwin

**[02:05:39.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002841)  
on 4Ps

**[02:05:41.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002842)  
Nakita ko dito sa

**[02:05:44.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002843)  
sa

**[02:05:45.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002844)  
sa budget

**[02:05:49.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002845)  
and na

**[02:05:51.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002846)  
ang budget ng 4Ps

**[02:05:53.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002847)  
nabawasan ng 13 billion

**[02:05:54.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002848)  
and it's a good thing

**[02:05:55.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002849)  
kasi gusto natin nababawasan

**[02:05:57.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002850)  
ng mahihirap sa ating bansa

**[02:05:59.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002851)  
ang goal naman ng

**[02:06:01.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002852)  
4Ps is pantawid eh

**[02:06:03.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002853)  
ibig sabihin hanggang

**[02:06:05.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002854)  
makatawid ang ating mga pamilya

**[02:06:07.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002855)  
sa kanilang kakayahan

**[02:06:09.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002856)  
andyan yung gobyerno

**[02:06:11.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002857)  
para bigyan sila ng tulong

**[02:06:13.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002858)  
So, nabawasan siya ng

**[02:06:16.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002859)  
ng 13 billion

**[02:06:19.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002860)  
and before it was about

**[02:06:22.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002861)  
4.1 million household

**[02:06:24.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002862)  
ngayon ang target is about 3.5

**[02:06:27.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002866)  
So may we get an update kung

**[02:06:29.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002867)  
ano ba ang nakikita natin

**[02:06:35.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002868)  
Direksyon ng 4Ps

**[02:06:36.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002869)  
and ano ba yung mga

**[02:06:37.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002870)  
naging magagandang

**[02:06:41.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002871)  
bacta ng

**[02:06:43.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-002872)  
4Ps

**[02:06:44.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002873)  
Madam Chair.

**[02:06:45.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002874)  
Mt. Sen goes

**[02:06:46.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002875)  
The Sen. is correct

**[02:06:47.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002876)  
Nabawasan po pero

**[02:06:48.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002877)  
just for the record

**[02:06:49.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002878)  
hindi ho dahil

**[02:06:50.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002879)  
yung programa ay

**[02:06:52.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002880)  
Hindi hamaapekto nyo yung program

**[02:06:54.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002881)  
Ang instructo ng ating Pangulo

**[02:06:55.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002882)  
to make sure na reflective yung numero ng four-piece family sa poverty incidents.

**[02:07:00.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002883)  
So this was the poverty incidents pangaho na 15.5%.

**[02:07:05.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002884)  
Hindi pangaho yung 9% kasi kakalabas lang nung 9%.

**[02:07:08.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002885)  
So nung una ho kasi, that number has been pegged for the longest time at 4.4 million families,

**[02:07:14.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002886)  
no matter kung anuman ang naging poverty incidents.

**[02:07:17.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002887)  
So ang direktiba ng ating Pangulo is to make sure that the list is clean.

**[02:07:22.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002888)  
Kasi nung sinimulan to ni Sen Erwin, lumabas lang siya but memorize niya to,

**[02:07:27.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002889)  
sinimulan niya yung cleaning of the list.

**[02:07:30.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002890)  
So tinuloy ho natin nung pumasok tayo but we did it also through proper case management.

**[02:07:36.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002891)  
Ang nangyari ho dito, we hired more nung dumating ho kami na pagbigyan tayo natamihan yung mga case managers natin,

**[02:07:44.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002892)  
yung mga city links natin.

**[02:07:45.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002893)  
They are the lifeline of the program kasi sila yung nagmamonitor kung pwede na i-exit.

**[02:07:50.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002894)  
So ngayon, kapag i-exit,

**[02:07:52.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002895)  
na-exit na tayo ng 1.77 million.

**[02:07:55.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002896)  
That's from 2022 all the way to 2025.

**[02:08:00.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002897)  
Prior to that, ang na-exit lang sa programa was 15,000 families.

**[02:08:04.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002898)  
So napakalayo na ho nung numero.

**[02:08:06.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002899)  
Now, the updates to the program, number one, the case management has been strengthened.

**[02:08:13.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002900)  
More social workers and development workers doing case management.

**[02:08:18.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002901)  
Para yung mga dapat ma-exit, pwede nang ma-exit.

**[02:08:20.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002902)  
Pangalawa,

**[02:08:22.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002903)  
yung in-automate rin ho natin, and it's live now, the system is live.

**[02:08:26.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002904)  
Dati-rati ho kasi, there are 14 systems that do not talk to each other.

**[02:08:31.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002905)  
Kaya matagal yung grants na napukuha.

**[02:08:33.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002906)  
Right now, the new system that we call 4Ps Forward is already live.

**[02:08:37.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002907)  
It will take full effect by December.

**[02:08:40.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002908)  
Anong kakaiba sa system na to?

**[02:08:42.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002909)  
It's fully integrated.

**[02:08:43.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002910)  
So from the time you register as a beneficiary all the way to payout,

**[02:08:46.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002911)  
wala na hong download, encode, upload, wala na hong ganon.

**[02:08:50.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002912)  
So we've armed our 14...

**[02:08:52.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002913)  
15,000 na mga links, case managers, with an iPad, with a tablet, and a laptop.

**[02:09:00.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002914)  
Kasi nga, there's no point in buying a new system if you don't arm them with hardware.

**[02:09:06.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002915)  
So kompleto na ho sila.

**[02:09:08.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002916)  
So the beauty of that is, kung dati-rati nag-aantay ho ang ating mga grantees

**[02:09:13.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002917)  
ng almost 60 days to 75 days to get their grants,

**[02:09:16.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002918)  
in the new system, makukuha na nila yung health grant nila at rise subsidy nila

**[02:09:21.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002919)  
within the same month, or 45 days, within 45 days.

**[02:09:25.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002920)  
Now, also, meron ho itong collateral benefits sa DepEd.

**[02:09:29.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002921)  
The new system is now self-contained.

**[02:09:31.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002922)  
Kasi dati, kinukomplain ng DepEd na yung mga guro nila ang gumagawa ng compliance,

**[02:09:36.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002923)  
kaya napaka-volumous nung report doon sa EDUC grant.

**[02:09:39.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002924)  
So nababawasan yung oras nila magturo.

**[02:09:41.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002925)  
So by the end of the year, it will be beneficiaries-driven na.

**[02:09:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002926)  
Hindi na kami aasa sa mga guro natin na gumawa ng report,

**[02:09:48.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002927)  
kundi yung report card na mismo ng mga bata,

**[02:09:51.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002928)  
ng ating mga magulang, during the family development session,

**[02:09:55.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002929)  
scan, update the record, you get your education grant.

**[02:09:58.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002930)  
Sa health grant, ganun din.

**[02:09:59.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002931)  
They will have their own booklets na hindi na kami aasa sa mga DOH barangay doctors

**[02:10:04.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002932)  
kasi ang dami na nilang ginagawa.

**[02:10:06.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002933)  
So the system is self-contained and it's more efficient.

**[02:10:09.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002934)  
Now, we are also coming up with a support program for the child-monitored children.

**[02:10:16.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002935)  
Nakita natin sa datos, and alam ko, alam to ng Senate President,

**[02:10:19.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002936)  
pagdating sa comparison ng studies between four-piece and non-four-piece sa basic ed,

**[02:10:26.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002937)  
pantay, near universal.

**[02:10:28.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002938)  
Pagdating sa secondary ed, education,

**[02:10:31.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002939)  
the four-piece beneficiaries does slightly better than non-four-piece beneficiaries,

**[02:10:36.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002940)  
pero sabay rin silang bumabagsak pagdating sa tertiary education.

**[02:10:40.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002941)  
Ang maganda hong nagpapasalamat kami dahil sa new tertiary amendments to the TES,

**[02:10:45.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002942)  
e ngayon talagang categorical na sinabi na four-piece not listed.

**[02:10:49.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002943)  
So talagang, we've already embarked on a massive education campaign to our beneficiaries to avail of this service.

**[02:10:56.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002944)  
Pero during my talks with the beneficiaries, marami sa kanila pa rin ang sinasabi,

**[02:11:00.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002945)  
yung cost of going to school is the problem.

**[02:11:03.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002946)  
Kasi marami sa kanila na sa mga bundok, so they have to, bundok at isla,

**[02:11:07.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002947)  
or geographically isolated and disadvantaged area,

**[02:11:10.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002948)  
luluwa sila sa mga capital or city centers para mag-dorm, para mag-aral.

**[02:11:15.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002949)  
So the program has a distinct feature.

**[02:11:19.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002950)  
It's called the Enhanced Support Service Intervention.

**[02:11:23.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002951)  
Nung dumating ako nandiyan na ho yan, it's enshrined in the guideline.

**[02:11:26.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002952)  
Madati, yung pondo na yun, it's part of the budget already, we're not going to ask for more.

**[02:11:30.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002953)  
Ginagamit lang yan sa a varied myriad of things.

**[02:11:34.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002954)  
May livelihood, okay naman, merong support, other support.

**[02:11:38.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002955)  
Now we've converted it and we're launching it come December.

**[02:11:42.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002956)  
It's called the Tuloy Program, meaning Tuloy Kolehyo, Tuloy Aral at Tuloy Trabaho.

**[02:11:48.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002957)  
So we, consulting with development experts, we will now come up with yung mga monitored children.

**[02:11:56.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002958)  
If they can show that nag-enroll sila, then we will give them a one-time 10,000 grant na 10,000 assistance para mag-tuloy ng kolehyo.

**[02:12:04.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002959)  
Now, succeedingly, if they continue to stay in college, then they can show the attendance through the requirements we'll ask for.

**[02:12:11.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002960)  
Tuloy Aral naman, they get additional 5,000 that they can use together with the allowance they get from TES

**[02:12:17.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002961)  
to support

**[02:12:18.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002963)  
their course of studying.

**[02:12:20.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002964)  
And last, Tuloy Trabaho is when they do graduate out of college, we give them another one-time grant na 10,000 so that they can embark on career,

**[02:12:32.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002965)  
meaning to get the requirements, whatever pre-employment requirements they need.

**[02:12:36.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002966)  
So, in-enhance lang namin yung program to make sure that we lengthen the horizon at matuloy talaga yung pag-aaral nila.

**[02:12:42.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002967)  
Now, I know I've said a lot, but those are the program enhancements, but if you're looking for the impacts, we can flash

**[02:12:48.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002968)  
on the screen the impacts.

**[02:12:51.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002969)  
Kanina ko ba sinabi?

**[02:12:52.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002970)  
Who's the impacts?

**[02:12:58.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002971)  
Akin yung impact.

**[02:13:01.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002972)  
Kanina pala sinabi, hindi mo nalimot.

**[02:13:04.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002973)  
Ito ba yung page 9 nyo sa CREX?

**[02:13:07.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-002974)  
Okay, there we are.

**[02:13:07.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002975)  
So, after 18 years, very, very clear na ho yung mga impacts, numerous impact assessments have been done.

**[02:13:14.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002976)  
First things first, the World Bank has already said,

**[02:13:17.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002977)  
na number one, the four-piece program can be attributed to 2.2% poverty reduction.

**[02:13:25.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002978)  
Its cost per, its rate of return is also one of the better ones for the government.

**[02:13:31.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002979)  
Ano saan ba yan?

**[02:13:33.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002980)  
Yes, sir.

**[02:13:34.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002981)  
Hindi ko nga makita

**[02:13:34.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002982)  
Which page?

**[02:13:36.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002983)  
...

**[02:13:37.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002984)  
...

**[02:13:39.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002985)  
Nasaan ito ba?

**[02:13:40.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002986)  
...

**[02:13:42.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002987)  
So, again, the rate of return is one of the better ones.

**[02:13:45.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002988)  
And then,

**[02:13:47.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002989)  
So, these are independent assessments done by so many groups.

**[02:13:51.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002990)  
Also, there's a World Bank study that is already published that says,

**[02:13:55.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002991)  
number one, our four-piece children compared to our non-four-piece children stay in school longer by almost

**[02:14:02.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002992)  
53% of our former youth beneficiaries earn the bachelor's degree versus 31% for non-beneficiaries.

**[02:14:13.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002993)  
So, that means they're staying in school and completing their college education.

**[02:14:17.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002994)  
Then, 44% of those na beneficiaries namin end up with permanent jobs, nearly double the non-four-piece na beneficiaries.

**[02:14:28.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002995)  
25% lang yun, kami 44%.

**[02:14:30.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002996)  
So, meaning nakakapagtrabaho sila, so natutuloy na yung pagputol ng intergenerational poverty.

**[02:14:36.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002997)  
And last, they also cited the 55% of our young women, former young four-piece beneficiaries,

**[02:14:44.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002998)  
achieve permanent employment compared to 33%.

**[02:14:47.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-002999)  
So, nakikita na po natin yung fruition ng programa.

**[02:14:52.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003000)  
Although early, pero 18 years later, nasusukat na natin concretely na nabibreak yung intergenerational poverty.

**[02:15:00.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003001)  
Beyond the numbers that I showed kanina, how many thousands graduated, these numbers speak for the program's fruition of breaking intergenerational poverty.

**[02:15:09.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003002)  
Also, in the PSA study, sorry, not the PSA study, the latest FIES of PSA, they cited five things why poverty also went down to 9%.

**[02:15:24.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003003)  
First, in a household, you would get foreign remittance, so yung mga OFW nila nakamag-anak, entrepreneurship, nakapaghanap ng hanap buhay,

**[02:15:35.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003004)  
the controlled prices dahil inflation was low, but one of the reasons they also cited is cash transfers.

**[02:15:43.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003005)  
And a big chunk of that in protecting the households and pulling them out of poverty was cash transfer.

**[02:15:49.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003006)  
And attributable yan to a big chunk sa 4Ps.

**[02:15:54.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003007)  
Thank you for those answers.

**[02:16:01.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003008)  
Actually, itong program na ito, ang isang programa na pag bumaba ba yung budget, natutuwa ko eh.

**[02:16:08.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003009)  
Dahil alam natin na bumaba ba yung bilang ng mahihirap sa ating bansa.

**[02:16:13.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003010)  
Of course, malayo pa tayo with 3.5 million poorest of the poor family.

**[02:16:20.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003011)  
But tutuwa ko dahil 1.7 million ang...

**[02:16:24.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003012)  
na ilabas natin sa poorest of the poor category.

**[02:16:28.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003013)  
Ngayon, my next question is, how do we continue the gains?

**[02:16:35.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003014)  
This is related to what I said earlier, which is El Nino.

**[02:16:39.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003015)  
And also, yung last PSA poverty survey was 2025.

**[02:16:47.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003016)  
Wala pang gera ng era nun.

**[02:16:49.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003017)  
Wala pa tayong El Nino.

**[02:16:51.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003018)  
Wala pa tayong 7.5 inflation.

**[02:16:54.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003019)  
2025, actually, mababa ang inflation natin at that time.

**[02:16:58.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003020)  
Inflation is a, I would call it, is a poverty, it can cause poverty in our country.

**[02:17:09.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003021)  
So, how do we maintain yung pababa na trajectory ng poverty reduction natin?

**[02:17:21.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003022)  
I'll start off with El Nino.

**[02:17:24.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003023)  
And then, I also want to understand anong ginagawa ng department to prepare for this El Nino.

**[02:17:31.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003024)  
Kanina sinabi ni Secretary na they're looking at...

**[02:17:35.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003025)  
Secretary Kiko Laurela, they're looking at...

**[02:17:44.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003026)  
close to 350,000 affected farmers.

**[02:17:52.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003027)  
No?

**[02:17:53.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003028)  
So, medyo...

**[02:17:54.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003029)  
Malaki-laki yun.

**[02:18:00.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003030)  
And, of course, itong affected farmers,

**[02:18:04.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003031)  
mawawalan sila ng trabaho, mawawalan sila ng livelihood.

**[02:18:07.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003032)  
So, how are we preparing for that?

**[02:18:09.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003033)  
Secrex, bago kayo sumagot, gusto lang i-acknowledge ng chair,

**[02:18:13.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003034)  
yung presensya ng aming Finance Committee Chair, Senator JV.

**[02:18:18.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003035)  
Salamat sa pagdalo ninyo.

**[02:18:20.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003036)  
At presensya din ni Senator Bong Go.

**[02:18:23.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003037)  
Salamat kayo, Senator.

**[02:18:24.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003038)  
Thank you, Senator Bong, for joining us.

**[02:18:26.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003039)  
After yung itong first round ni SP, tanongin ko kayo dalawa kung gusto nyo mag-opening remarks.

**[02:18:33.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003040)  
When the...

**[02:18:35.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003041)  
Ang sabi pala ni Secretary Kiko Laurela is 4 million farmers can be affected at the worst case scenario.

**[02:18:42.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003042)  
And we have 10 million workers in the agriculture industry.

**[02:18:47.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003043)  
Dahil nga, iba, drought eh.

**[02:18:48.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003044)  
Wala silang pwedeng pagtaniman.

**[02:18:53.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003045)  
At...

**[02:18:53.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003046)  
Talagang magkakaroon tayo ng widespread unemployment kung at the worst case scenario.

**[02:18:59.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003047)  
So, two questions.

**[02:19:01.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003048)  
One is, how do we prevent El Nino?

**[02:19:04.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003049)  
Or how do we mitigate El Nino in terms of poverty reduction?

**[02:19:08.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003050)  
And how are we addressing El Nino this coming next few months?

**[02:19:12.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003051)  
Madam Sir, bago ko siguro masagot yung El Nino,

**[02:19:15.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003052)  
lagay ko muna sa konteksto nung responde namin sa energy emergency.

**[02:19:19.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003053)  
Kasi yung energy emergency was already detrimental or nanganib na ho sila noon.

**[02:19:23.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003054)  
So, when I say sila, yung mga near poor and poor families ho natin,

**[02:19:27.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003055)  
kasama yung mga 4Ps ho natin doon.

**[02:19:30.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003056)  
We were working closely with the PEDS or one of their fellows,

**[02:19:33.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003057)  
si Professor Toots Albert, in designing the uplift assistance.

**[02:19:37.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003058)  
This comes into play kasi we were looking at the diminished na spending power nila

**[02:19:42.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003059)  
of almost around 1,200 to 1,500 pesos.

**[02:19:45.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003060)  
Doon namin na-draw yung 2,000 pesos monthly na ipinamahagi sa kanila.

**[02:19:50.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003061)  
So, we embarked on a...

**[02:19:52.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003062)  
Tawag namin,

**[02:19:53.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003063)  
This is an EVH, Emergency Scheme, Vertical Expansion or Horizontal Expansion.

**[02:19:58.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003064)  
Ito ho yung rasyonale ng design ng uplift assistance.

**[02:20:01.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003065)  
That's why una, may Group 1 tayo.

**[02:20:03.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003066)  
Nakatanggap ang ating mga 4Ps beneficiaries ng one-time top-up na 2,000 pesos last July or August.

**[02:20:11.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003067)  
The second one was Group 2, meaning yung mga near poor or poor na hindi ho bahagi ng 4Ps

**[02:20:17.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003068)  
dahil they did not meet the conditionalities.

**[02:20:19.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003069)  
There are around 2.5 million households doon.

**[02:20:23.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003070)  
Yun ho.

**[02:20:23.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003071)  
Nakakatanggap yun at patuloy nakakatanggap ng 2,000 pesos since July all the way to December.

**[02:20:28.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003072)  
Sa aming pag-uusap sa uplift committee at sa direktiba ng ating Pangulo,

**[02:20:31.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003073)  
we are playing it close to the ground na kung humaba yung energy emergency,

**[02:20:35.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003074)  
e maaring humaba rin to.

**[02:20:37.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003075)  
So, for now, ang design niya is still December, but we will look at the situation

**[02:20:41.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003076)  
and if we're warranted, sinabi naman ang ating Pangulo that we can extend this.

**[02:20:45.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003077)  
Now, Group 3 is yung low-wage SSS earners.

**[02:20:50.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003078)  
That's 1.5 million families naman.

**[02:20:53.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003079)  
Individuals or household.

**[02:20:54.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003080)  
Yan naman ho, kinonsider namin sila na vulnerable because their monthly salary credits only amounts to 20,000.

**[02:21:01.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003081)  
In fact, later on, in-expand pa namin all the way to mas mababa na 10,000 pesos monthly salary credit.

**[02:21:07.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003082)  
Now, Madam Chair, I spoke about this kasi yung target, etong mga grupo na to,

**[02:21:12.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003083)  
sigurado ko sila rin yung maapektuhan ng Elminio.

**[02:21:15.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003084)  
So, right now, we gave protection to 7.5 million families.

**[02:21:22.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003085)  
A lot of these families will be the same families that will be severely affected by the Elminio drought.

**[02:21:28.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003086)  
Marami, 70% to 85% of our four-piece beneficiaries are farmers.

**[02:21:34.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003087)  
In fact, a big chunk of Group 2, Group 1, are not in the urban areas.

**[02:21:39.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003088)  
They're in the municipalities or rural areas.

**[02:21:42.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003089)  
Nakikita namin yan when we do the payouts.

**[02:21:45.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003090)  
Now, moving forward, I want to show our slide.

**[02:21:49.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003091)  
Meron ba tayong presentation ng El Niño?

**[02:21:51.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003092)  
...

**[02:21:51.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003093)  
So, the El Niño preparations of the department.

**[02:21:56.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003094)  
Ito po, when I got to the department, and alam ko nire-reform rin ito ni Sen. Erwin noon, hindi lang yan natapos.

**[02:22:02.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003095)  
We have a line item called the Disaster Resilience Response Rehabilitation Program, DRRP.

**[02:22:09.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003096)  
That's a 1.1 billion expenditure in our books.

**[02:22:13.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003097)  
Now, nung nadatna namin yan, that's a cash-for-work program na yung work program was very loose

**[02:22:18.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003098)  
in the sense na iba-iba yung pinagagawa sa kanila.

**[02:22:20.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003099)  
So, what we did was,

**[02:22:21.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003100)  
we consulted with the Department of Agriculture, World Food Program,

**[02:22:24.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003101)  
and we revamped it as early as 2023,

**[02:22:27.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003102)  
na isa, dalawa lang ang ginagawa nila,

**[02:22:28.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003103)  
two monolithic programs nationwide.

**[02:22:30.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003104)  
It's called LAWA, which are sweeps yun,

**[02:22:33.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003105)  
yung small water impounding projects.

**[02:22:37.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003106)  
So, we asked the A, where are the springs?

**[02:22:39.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003107)  
Kasi doon namin nilalagay yung mga sweeps natin.

**[02:22:43.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003108)  
And then they would also plant around it.

**[02:22:45.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003109)  
Now, right now, these are found in communities that were targeted initially by the Climate Change Commission,

**[02:22:51.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003110)  
and pag-aasa as drought.

**[02:22:53.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003111)  
Noon pa, as drought, malapit sila sa drought, or any forms of climate change.

**[02:23:00.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003112)  
So, these are the same communities that will be affected or are being affected already by El Nino.

**[02:23:05.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003113)  
So, these sweeps or small water impounding systems na help them irrigate small community farms

**[02:23:12.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003114)  
and at the same time provide income because yung mga naaani nila dyan,

**[02:23:16.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003115)  
by the way, yung seeds at yung mga isda na linalagay dyan ay galing sa PA.

**[02:23:21.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003116)  
Sila nag-iprovide ng technical assistance.

**[02:23:24.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003117)  
Binibenta nila yan either through feeding program, through the Walang Gutom, or they consume it themselves.

**[02:23:29.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003118)  
So, somehow, yung panawagan ng DA na to do community gardens to ease prices ng pagkain is already underway.

**[02:23:38.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003119)  
We, in fact, have 5,000 of these sweeps nationwide.

**[02:23:42.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003120)  
Small water impounding projects.

**[02:23:45.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003121)  
Hindi ho yan nangyari overnight.

**[02:23:46.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003122)  
Pinaghandaan ho namin siya since 2023, kaya ganyan karami ho yan.

**[02:23:50.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003123)  
These sweeps are still...

**[02:23:51.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003124)  
active right now.

**[02:23:53.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003125)  
And the Department of Agriculture is helping us by introducing drought-resilient crops,

**[02:24:00.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003126)  
both high-value and regular, katulad ng taro, kamote, and pag high-value, watermelon, okra.

**[02:24:07.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003127)  
So, yan ho yung mga... yan yung partnership namin ng Department of Agriculture.

**[02:24:11.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003128)  
So, when we say resilient, so kasi we didn't look at El Nino just now,

**[02:24:15.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003129)  
but we were looking at El Nino way back in 2023, or La Nina as a matter of fact.

**[02:24:20.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003130)  
5,000 small water...

**[02:24:21.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003131)  
small water impounding systems or projects cannot be built in a span of couple of months.

**[02:24:26.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003132)  
That this was done way, way back.

**[02:24:28.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003133)  
Now, that's the first one in terms of social development.

**[02:24:31.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003134)  
We provide cash assistance.

**[02:24:32.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003135)  
By the way, baka matanong nyo anong connection namin doon?

**[02:24:34.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003136)  
Yung cash for work nila, for 20 days, they do the sweeps lang.

**[02:24:38.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003137)  
They do the impounding lang.

**[02:24:39.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003138)  
And then, kung ano yung inani doon sa kanila na yun, and then napapaikot na nila by themselves.

**[02:24:44.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003139)  
Now, on the second slide...

**[02:24:46.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003140)  
The second slide, obviously, yung bilanggit ni Sekiko kanina,

**[02:24:51.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003141)  
yung farmers na maapektuhan.

**[02:24:54.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003142)  
Nag-start na ho kami ng emergency cash transfers in Cagayan, in Isabela, Camarines Norte, as we speak.

**[02:25:01.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003143)  
Now, we are monitoring it based on the declarations of state of calamity.

**[02:25:05.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003144)  
And like Sekiko said, may close coordination kami, they will pass on to us areas of vulnerability.

**[02:25:11.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003145)  
Na tulad ng nangyari sa RSSI, they were the ones who told us which provinces to move into

**[02:25:16.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003146)  
based also on the state of calamity.

**[02:25:18.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003147)  
Next slide.

**[02:25:20.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003148)  
Now, parang-parang...

**[02:25:21.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003149)  
For our social development, natatanong ho ito lagi sa akin, yung community-driven development o yung kalahi.

**[02:25:26.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003150)  
Remember, kalahi, naubos na ho yung ODA niyan when we joined the department in 2024.

**[02:25:31.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003151)  
So, we applied for a new ODA that was approved, and you can see it in the unprogrammed also at my line item yan.

**[02:25:37.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003152)  
It's called Pagkilos.

**[02:25:38.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003153)  
Basically, the community-driven development was converted into community-driven development

**[02:25:43.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003154)  
looking at disaster resilience to include droughts.

**[02:25:46.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003155)  
So, one particular project that already opened and we're expanding it will be...

**[02:25:51.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003156)  
Now, this community, for instance, in Masbate, nasa isla yan, I've been there, wala talagang tubig sila.

**[02:25:58.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003157)  
So, this system is supposed to help them in the wash, to come up with sanitary water para sa mga community nila

**[02:26:06.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003158)  
kasi right now, they have to go to the town proper and spend so much money to get just a liter of water.

**[02:26:11.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003159)  
And right now, it's coming in handy during the El Nino.

**[02:26:15.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003160)  
So, our approach, Madam Chairman, is both social development and social protection.

**[02:26:20.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003161)  
Social protection.

**[02:26:21.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003162)  
Yung ECT as a means of bridging them para hindi ho sila mahulog palalim sa kahirapan.

**[02:26:26.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003163)  
When we look at AICs or emergency cash transfer, hindi naman siya the ends to the means.

**[02:26:30.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003164)  
The means to the end.

**[02:26:31.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003165)  
But rather, it's a pantawid.

**[02:26:33.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003166)  
So, sana gagamitin namin yun para maitawid sila, yung mga magsasaka o yung mga mangingisda na maapektuhan during the next six months.

**[02:26:40.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003167)  
Pero at the same time, we're embarking on social development programs that are meant for the long term.

**[02:26:45.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003168)  
Katulad ng Project Lawat Binhi at netong air-to-water system ng community-driven development.

**[02:26:51.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003169)  
Yung kaninang pinakita ninyo, can we go back to that slide?

**[02:27:00.340] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003170)  
Yung slide ng mga binigyan ng may different categories in uplift slide.

**[02:27:10.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003171)  
Nakita ko na ang beneficiaries noon is about 6.5 million?

**[02:27:15.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003172)  
Sir, sir.

**[02:27:16.940] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003173)  
6.5 million.

**[02:27:17.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003174)  
Yes, but the target was 7.5.

**[02:27:19.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003175)  
Hinahanap pa namin.

**[02:27:20.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003176)  
Well, yan ay hinahanap namin using CPMSS data and SSS data.

**[02:27:25.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003177)  
But, and ang ginamit na pondo dyan is the IX fund, no?

**[02:27:32.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003178)  
The IX po ang ginagamit ko dyan.

**[02:27:33.620] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003179)  
And then, dito sa slide ninyo, slide 11, nakita ko na to date or September, as of September,

**[02:27:41.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003180)  
ang beneficiaries is about, total beneficiaries is 8.7 million beneficiaries.

**[02:27:48.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003181)  
So, in other words…

**[02:27:50.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003182)  
Yung uplift, andiyan pala, 8.7 million yung beneficiaries.

**[02:27:59.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003183)  
Pero, out of that 8.7, 7.5 galing sa…

**[02:28:03.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003184)  
To clarify, Madam Chair, both are drawn from the IX funds.

**[02:28:08.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003185)  
Itong tinutukoy ng slide na to, na tinutukoy ng Senate President, ay IX regular.

**[02:28:13.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003186)  
Ito ho yung mga pumupunta sa sasina.

**[02:28:14.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003187)  
Pero dyan rin kinuhin uplift?

**[02:28:15.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003188)  
Yes, kinukuha siya from the same pot.

**[02:28:18.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003189)  
Okay.

**[02:28:19.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003190)  
Ang punto ko dito kasi…

**[02:28:20.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003191)  
Ang 2027 is 4.6 million ang target beneficiaries, or pwedeng mag-apply for the IX fund, di ba?

**[02:28:31.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003192)  
Kung ang DA is already projecting at the worst case scenario, 4 million, ubos na kagad yan sa DA.

**[02:28:38.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003193)  
That's a point I'm trying to make.

**[02:28:41.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003194)  
And this is only DA.

**[02:28:43.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003195)  
Hindi pa natin kinakount yan kung tuloy-tuloy yung gera sa Iran at sumipa to $150 per barrel, or even $200.

**[02:28:50.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003196)  
Hindi natin malaman ngayon.

**[02:28:52.840] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003197)  
Medyo wild-wild west doon.

**[02:28:55.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003198)  
So, the 4 million is only for the farmers, pero we all learned na sa uplift, 7.5 ang binigyan na.

**[02:29:05.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003199)  
So, mayroon pa tayong…

**[02:29:08.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003200)  
Dapat ang nakahanda tayo is between 4 million to maybe 8 million beneficiaries for the next 6 to 12 months.

**[02:29:17.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003201)  
So, yun ang nakikita kong based on the briefing ng mga sekretary.

**[02:29:20.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003202)  
So, yun ang nakikita kong dapat paghandaan natin.

**[02:29:23.340] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003203)  
But 2027, in other words, is only 4.6.

**[02:29:28.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003204)  
So, hindi siya responsive to the situation in the next 6 to 12 months.

**[02:29:32.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003205)  
Mabuti kung walang gera.

**[02:29:33.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003206)  
Mabuti kung walang El Nino, di ba?

**[02:29:36.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003207)  
Baka pwede yan.

**[02:29:37.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003208)  
In the normal circumstances, pwede yan.

**[02:29:39.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003209)  
Pero alam naman natin, in the next 6 to 12 months, ibang situation natin.

**[02:29:46.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003210)  
Very delikado yung ating situation.

**[02:29:48.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003211)  
But I'm sure that's why we have been very vocal about augmenting the AICs kasi it becomes our lifeline.

**[02:29:56.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003212)  
And rightfully so, as the Senate President pointed out, bagamat meron kaming…

**[02:29:59.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003213)  
ibang fund source

**[02:30:00.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003214)  
like emergency cash transfer,

**[02:30:02.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003215)  
it's really never enough.

**[02:30:04.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003216)  
And just to point out,

**[02:30:05.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003217)  
umabot na rin ho kami

**[02:30:06.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003218)  
sa punto ngayon

**[02:30:07.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003219)  
na humihingi na kami

**[02:30:08.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003220)  
ng fund augmentation

**[02:30:09.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003221)  
from DBM

**[02:30:10.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003222)  
to beef up AICs

**[02:30:12.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003223)  
kasi nga hindi na siya sapat.

**[02:30:14.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003224)  
Kasi we've spent

**[02:30:15.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003225)  
10 billion immediately

**[02:30:16.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003226)  
during the summer

**[02:30:17.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003227)  
for the transfer workers.

**[02:30:19.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003228)  
Tapos ngayon,

**[02:30:20.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003229)  
we're supposed to cater

**[02:30:21.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003230)  
to 7.5

**[02:30:22.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003231)  
and we did get support

**[02:30:23.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003232)  
from DBM.

**[02:30:24.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003233)  
I believe those are drawn

**[02:30:25.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003234)  
from the various,

**[02:30:27.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003235)  
I'm not sure where they drew it

**[02:30:28.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003236)  
but that's for them

**[02:30:29.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003237)  
to answer.

**[02:30:30.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003238)  
But suffice to say,

**[02:30:31.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003239)  
binibigyan nila kami.

**[02:30:32.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003240)  
Pero tama ho,

**[02:30:34.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003241)  
mahirap ho yung

**[02:30:34.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003242)  
uncertainty

**[02:30:36.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003243)  
na

**[02:30:37.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003244)  
I don't know where

**[02:30:39.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003245)  
they're drawing it

**[02:30:39.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003246)  
pero syempre,

**[02:30:40.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003247)  
humihingi kami.

**[02:30:41.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003248)  
Kung magka humihingi kami

**[02:30:42.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003249)  
ng augmentation,

**[02:30:43.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003250)  
that's very hard for us

**[02:30:44.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003251)  
kasi we're at the mercy

**[02:30:45.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003252)  
of whether

**[02:30:45.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003253)  
meron or wala

**[02:30:46.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003254)  
na dadating.

**[02:30:48.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003255)  
Yung kaninang

**[02:30:49.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003256)  
pinakitang LAWA

**[02:30:50.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003257)  
and the other projects,

**[02:30:51.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003258)  
under disaster response

**[02:30:52.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003259)  
and rehabilitation program?

**[02:30:54.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003260)  
Yes, that's a separate line item

**[02:30:55.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003261)  
in our

**[02:30:56.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003262)  
disaster fund.

**[02:30:58.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003263)  
That's about 1.9 billion.

**[02:30:59.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003264)  
1.9 billion, yes.

**[02:31:02.340] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003265)  
1.9 billion.

**[02:31:03.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003266)  
And emergency cash transfer,

**[02:31:04.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003267)  
andyan rin yan?

**[02:31:05.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003268)  
Hindi po.

**[02:31:05.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003269)  
Kinukuha ho yun sa quick response.

**[02:31:07.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003270)  
Ah, sa quick response.

**[02:31:08.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003271)  
Because the preparedness fund

**[02:31:09.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003272)  
its name is to prepare,

**[02:31:11.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003273)  
then sa quick response

**[02:31:12.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003274)  
is to respond.

**[02:31:13.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003275)  
Alright.

**[02:31:13.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003276)  
Thank you for that.

**[02:31:15.900] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003277)  
Madam Chairperson,

**[02:31:17.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003278)  
I have one more question.

**[02:31:20.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003279)  
If you proceed SP.

**[02:31:22.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003280)  
I'll jump to

**[02:31:23.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003281)  
kanina na rinig ko rin

**[02:31:25.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003282)  
si Senator Erwin

**[02:31:25.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003283)  
yung question niya

**[02:31:27.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003284)  
on the senior citizens.

**[02:31:29.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003285)  
I would like to jump

**[02:31:32.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003286)  
on the senior citizens.

**[02:31:34.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003287)  
Nitignan ko yung

**[02:31:35.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003288)  
budget ninyo.

**[02:31:38.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003289)  
And the biggest chunk

**[02:31:39.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003290)  
of your

**[02:31:40.620] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003291)  
the biggest chunk

**[02:31:46.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003292)  
of your

**[02:31:47.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003293)  
3.8 billion budget

**[02:31:49.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003294)  
is the

**[02:31:51.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003295)  
senior citizens

**[02:31:53.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003296)  
welfare development program.

**[02:31:54.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003297)  
Tama po ba?

**[02:31:57.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003298)  
Yes, boss.

**[02:31:58.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003299)  
And I would assume

**[02:31:58.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003300)  
this is the social

**[02:31:59.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003301)  
pension?

**[02:32:01.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003302)  
That is the

**[02:32:02.160] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003303)  
centenarian gifts.

**[02:32:03.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003304)  
Ah, this is the

**[02:32:03.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003305)  
centenarian gifts.

**[02:32:04.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003306)  
Stone nature gifts.

**[02:32:05.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003307)  
Okay.

**[02:32:05.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003308)  
Yung social pension

**[02:32:06.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003309)  
is still with the DSWD?

**[02:32:08.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003310)  
Yes, boss.

**[02:32:09.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003311)  
So, itong

**[02:32:09.640] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003312)  
ito is just purely

**[02:32:12.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003313)  
on the

**[02:32:13.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003314)  
yung binibigay natin

**[02:32:14.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003315)  
sa mga

**[02:32:15.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003316)  
80,

**[02:32:16.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003317)  
85,

**[02:32:18.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003318)  
90,

**[02:32:18.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003319)  
95,

**[02:32:19.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003320)  
100.

**[02:32:19.920] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003321)  
Yes, boss.

**[02:32:21.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003322)  
Other than this program,

**[02:32:23.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003323)  
ako, I support

**[02:32:24.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003324)  
this program kasi

**[02:32:25.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003325)  
masaya yung mga

**[02:32:29.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003326)  
seniors.

**[02:32:29.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003327)  
Matutuwa sila eh.

**[02:32:31.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003328)  
At

**[02:32:32.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003329)  
any dole out

**[02:32:35.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003330)  
to our senior

**[02:32:36.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003331)  
citizen,

**[02:32:36.820] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003332)  
matutuwa sila.

**[02:32:38.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003333)  
But

**[02:32:38.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003334)  
part of the mandate

**[02:32:40.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003335)  
ng

**[02:32:40.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003336)  
ng commission

**[02:32:43.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003337)  
is to also

**[02:32:44.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003338)  
come up with

**[02:32:45.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003339)  
policies.

**[02:32:46.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003340)  
Diba?

**[02:32:47.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003341)  
So, other than

**[02:32:48.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003342)  
itong

**[02:32:49.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003343)  
cash gift

**[02:32:50.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003344)  
or birthday gift,

**[02:32:51.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003345)  
what other policies

**[02:32:52.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003346)  
do

**[02:32:53.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003347)  
have you recommended

**[02:32:54.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003348)  
to government

**[02:32:55.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003349)  
in order to

**[02:32:57.000] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003350)  
improve the

**[02:32:57.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003351)  
welfare of our

**[02:32:58.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003352)  
senior citizens?

**[02:32:59.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003353)  
ED Ana Marie.

**[02:33:04.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003354)  
Yes, boss.

**[02:33:04.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003355)  
Thank you for the

**[02:33:05.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003356)  
question, sir.

**[02:33:06.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003357)  
So,

**[02:33:07.320] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003358)  
we are

**[02:33:08.540] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003359)  
actually

**[02:33:09.600] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003360)  
proposing

**[02:33:10.400] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003361)  
and sending

**[02:33:11.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003362)  
our

**[02:33:12.100] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003363)  
proposals

**[02:33:13.300] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003364)  
during

**[02:33:13.880] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003365)  
Congress hearings

**[02:33:15.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003366)  
in support

**[02:33:17.080] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003367)  
of the

**[02:33:17.820] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003368)  
policies being

**[02:33:19.140] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003369)  
proposed by

**[02:33:20.540] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003370)  
our congressmen

**[02:33:21.680] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003371)  
from the

**[02:33:22.260] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003372)  
senior citizens

**[02:33:23.060] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003373)  
party list,

**[02:33:23.960] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003374)  
the two party

**[02:33:24.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003375)  
lists that

**[02:33:25.300] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003376)  
support senior

**[02:33:26.400] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003377)  
citizens.

**[02:33:27.540] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003378)  
And right now,

**[02:33:28.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003379)  
we are

**[02:33:28.920] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003380)  
studying

**[02:33:30.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003381)  
the

**[02:33:31.500] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003382)  
amendment of

**[02:33:33.220] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003383)  
the IRR

**[02:33:34.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003384)  
of RA

**[02:33:35.680] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003385)  
11350

**[02:33:36.700] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003386)  
so that we

**[02:33:38.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003387)  
can

**[02:33:38.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003388)  
enhance

**[02:33:41.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003389)  
yung

**[02:33:42.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003390)  
law na

**[02:33:42.980] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003391)  
nag-govern

**[02:33:43.500] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003392)  
sa

**[02:33:44.360] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003393)  
establishment

**[02:33:46.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003394)  
ng NCSC.

**[02:33:47.880] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003395)  
But other,

**[02:33:48.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003396)  
kasi nakita ko dito

**[02:33:49.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003397)  
sa budget niyo,

**[02:33:50.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003398)  
it's only one

**[02:33:50.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003399)  
it's a

**[02:33:51.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003400)  
no, it's a

**[02:33:52.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003401)  
there's only one

**[02:33:53.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003402)  
program which is

**[02:33:54.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003403)  
the birthday.

**[02:33:56.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003404)  
But ano pang

**[02:33:57.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003405)  
anong policy

**[02:33:58.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003406)  
recommendation

**[02:33:58.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003407)  
niyo to

**[02:33:59.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003408)  
improve the

**[02:34:00.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003409)  
welfare of

**[02:34:01.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003410)  
our senior

**[02:34:01.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003411)  
citizens?

**[02:34:02.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003412)  
Just share

**[02:34:02.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003413)  
with us

**[02:34:03.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003414)  
maybe three

**[02:34:04.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003415)  
policy

**[02:34:05.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003416)  
recommendations?

**[02:34:08.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003417)  
Actually,

**[02:34:09.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003418)  
meron po

**[02:34:10.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003419)  
kaming

**[02:34:10.720] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003420)  
pinapropose

**[02:34:12.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003421)  
na magna

**[02:34:12.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003422)  
karta for

**[02:34:13.360] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003423)  
the older

**[02:34:13.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003424)  
persons.

**[02:34:15.260] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003425)  
And then,

**[02:34:15.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003426)  
we also

**[02:34:17.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003427)  
do the

**[02:34:20.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003428)  
drafting

**[02:34:21.840] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003429)  
of the

**[02:34:22.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003430)  
Philippine

**[02:34:22.740] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003431)  
Plan of Action

**[02:34:23.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003432)  
for Senior

**[02:34:24.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003433)  
Citizens or

**[02:34:25.400] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003434)  
the PIPASI

**[02:34:26.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003435)  
for

**[02:34:27.400] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003436)  
2020.

**[02:34:28.920] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003437)  
22 and

**[02:34:29.540] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003438)  
2028.

**[02:34:30.980] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003439)  
We've also

**[02:34:31.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003440)  
proposed

**[02:34:32.460] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003441)  
enhancements

**[02:34:33.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003442)  
of the

**[02:34:33.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003443)  
Geriatric Act

**[02:34:35.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003444)  
and

**[02:34:36.140] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003445)  
meron din po

**[02:34:37.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003446)  
kaming mga

**[02:34:38.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003447)  
various

**[02:34:39.740] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003448)  
memorandum of

**[02:34:40.600] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003449)  
agreement

**[02:34:41.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003450)  
with various

**[02:34:41.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003451)  
government

**[02:34:42.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003452)  
agencies.

**[02:34:49.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003453)  
Yun po,

**[02:34:50.880] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003454)  
meron din

**[02:34:51.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003455)  
kaming mga

**[02:34:52.100] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003456)  
proposals

**[02:34:53.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003457)  
enhancement

**[02:34:55.100] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003458)  
ng

**[02:34:55.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003459)  
benefits po

**[02:34:58.680] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003460)  
ng senior

**[02:34:59.320] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003461)  
citizens.

**[02:35:02.400] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003462)  
Meron din po

**[02:35:03.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003463)  
kami sir

**[02:35:04.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003464)  
na program.

**[02:35:05.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003465)  
We call it

**[02:35:06.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003466)  
the SICAD

**[02:35:07.700] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003467)  
na program

**[02:35:08.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003468)  
where

**[02:35:09.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003469)  
we provide

**[02:35:11.100] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003470)  
livelihood

**[02:35:11.740] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003471)  
assistance

**[02:35:12.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003472)  
and capacity

**[02:35:13.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003473)  
building activities

**[02:35:14.720] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003474)  
such as

**[02:35:15.420] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003475)  
leadership

**[02:35:16.320] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003476)  
and governance

**[02:35:17.260] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003477)  
to our

**[02:35:17.820] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003478)  
senior citizens

**[02:35:18.860] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003479)  
sa ground.

**[02:35:19.960] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003480)  
We help

**[02:35:20.540] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003481)  
them establish

**[02:35:21.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003482)  
also senior

**[02:35:22.040] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003483)  
citizens

**[02:35:22.520] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003484)  
organizations.

**[02:35:24.460] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003485)  
Yun pong

**[02:35:24.800] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003486)  
mga

**[02:35:25.140] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003487)  
livelihood

**[02:35:26.140] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003488)  
activities na

**[02:35:27.080] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003489)  
napoprovide po

**[02:35:27.980] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003490)  
natin sa

**[02:35:28.600] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003491)  
ating mga

**[02:35:29.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003492)  
senior citizens

**[02:35:30.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003493)  
ay malaking

**[02:35:31.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003494)  
tulong po

**[02:35:32.400] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003495)  
dun sa ating

**[02:35:33.260] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003496)  
mga

**[02:35:33.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003497)  
naging beneficiaries.

**[02:35:35.780] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003498)  
Right now,

**[02:35:36.320] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003499)  
nag-pilot na po

**[02:35:37.100] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003500)  
kami noong

**[02:35:37.980] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003501)  
tourist

**[02:35:40.400] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003502)  
guides

**[02:35:41.540] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003503)  
na mga

**[02:35:41.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003504)  
senior citizens

**[02:35:43.060] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003505)  
na siyang

**[02:35:44.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003506)  
umikot ngayon

**[02:35:45.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003507)  
sa Intramuros

**[02:35:46.420] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003508)  
and then

**[02:35:47.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003509)  
sila po

**[02:35:48.300] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003510)  
ay

**[02:35:48.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003511)  
bilang

**[02:35:50.420] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003512)  
model

**[02:35:51.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003513)  
meron na rin

**[02:35:52.300] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003514)  
po kami

**[02:35:52.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003515)  
sa limang

**[02:35:53.520] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003516)  
regions

**[02:35:54.380] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003517)  
na tinitrain

**[02:35:55.200] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003518)  
ng mga

**[02:35:55.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003519)  
senior citizens

**[02:35:57.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003520)  
na tourist

**[02:35:57.820] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003521)  
guides.

**[02:35:58.240] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003522)  
Apart from

**[02:35:59.240] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003523)  
that po,

**[02:36:00.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003524)  
marami kaming

**[02:36:00.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003525)  
mga

**[02:36:01.360] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003526)  
livelihood

**[02:36:02.780] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003527)  
activities

**[02:36:03.560] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003528)  
sa iba't

**[02:36:04.080] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003529)  
ibang parte

**[02:36:04.700] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003530)  
ng regiyon

**[02:36:05.840] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003531)  
dahil meron na rin

**[02:36:06.960] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003532)  
po kami

**[02:36:07.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003533)  
mga regional

**[02:36:07.960] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003534)  
offices

**[02:36:08.520] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003535)  
na nakikipagtulungan

**[02:36:10.360] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003536)  
with various

**[02:36:11.020] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003537)  
government agencies

**[02:36:12.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003538)  
sa pagbibigay po

**[02:36:13.200] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003539)  
nitong mga

**[02:36:13.700] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003540)  
livelihood

**[02:36:14.140] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003541)  
activities.

**[02:36:15.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003542)  
Well,

**[02:36:16.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003543)  
yung

**[02:36:16.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003544)  
Philippine

**[02:36:17.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003545)  
Geriatric

**[02:36:18.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003546)  
Hospital Bill

**[02:36:19.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003547)  
aprobado na yun.

**[02:36:20.740] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003548)  
Yes po.

**[02:36:21.220] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003549)  
It's already

**[02:36:21.680] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003550)  
approved.

**[02:36:22.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003551)  
And

**[02:36:22.640] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003552)  
yung bill na yan

**[02:36:24.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003553)  
is really meant

**[02:36:25.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003554)  
for our

**[02:36:26.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003555)  
senior citizens.

**[02:36:26.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003556)  
It was approved

**[02:36:27.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003557)  
by,

**[02:36:28.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003558)  
the chairman

**[02:36:29.780] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003559)  
of the health

**[02:36:30.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003560)  
committee

**[02:36:30.900] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003561)  
sa center

**[02:36:31.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003562)  
Risa Ontiveros.

**[02:36:34.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003563)  
Yes po.

**[02:36:34.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003564)  
So,

**[02:36:35.640] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003565)  
ang top two

**[02:36:36.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003566)  
concern ng ating

**[02:36:37.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003567)  
mga senior citizens

**[02:36:38.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003568)  
is health

**[02:36:38.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003569)  
and livelihood.

**[02:36:41.180] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003570)  
Yes.

**[02:36:41.620] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003571)  
Actually,

**[02:36:42.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003572)  
third is pension.

**[02:36:44.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003573)  
Diba?

**[02:36:44.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003574)  
Yun ang

**[02:36:44.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003575)  
kanilang

**[02:36:46.840] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003576)  
mga concerns.

**[02:36:48.260] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003577)  
Yes po.

**[02:36:48.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003578)  
But more so

**[02:36:49.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003579)  
is

**[02:36:49.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003580)  
ang mga

**[02:36:50.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003581)  
senior citizens

**[02:36:51.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003582)  
natin,

**[02:36:52.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003583)  
ayaw nila

**[02:36:52.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003584)  
pabigat sa society.

**[02:36:54.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003585)  
Ayaw nila

**[02:36:55.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003586)  
maging

**[02:36:56.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003587)  
burden

**[02:36:57.380] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003588)  
to society.

**[02:36:58.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003589)  
So,

**[02:36:59.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003590)  
ako sa Valenzuela,

**[02:37:01.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003591)  
kami ni

**[02:37:01.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003592)  
Secretary Rex,

**[02:37:02.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003593)  
nung mayor kami,

**[02:37:04.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003594)  
pagkausap namin

**[02:37:04.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003595)  
senior citizen,

**[02:37:06.000] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003596)  
ayaw nila

**[02:37:06.420] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003597)  
maging pabigat.

**[02:37:07.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003598)  
Gusto nila

**[02:37:07.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003599)  
maging independent.

**[02:37:09.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003600)  
So,

**[02:37:09.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003601)  
the point I'm trying

**[02:37:10.540] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003602)  
to make there is

**[02:37:11.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003603)  
to make them

**[02:37:12.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003604)  
independent,

**[02:37:13.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003605)  
one,

**[02:37:13.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003606)  
is to address

**[02:37:14.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003607)  
their health concerns.

**[02:37:16.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003608)  
Yun na nga,

**[02:37:16.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003609)  
may hospital na tayo

**[02:37:17.820] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003610)  
ngayon,

**[02:37:18.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003611)  
solely catering

**[02:37:19.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003612)  
to our senior citizens.

**[02:37:21.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003613)  
But number two,

**[02:37:22.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003614)  
is how do we make

**[02:37:23.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003615)  
them financially

**[02:37:24.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003616)  
independent?

**[02:37:25.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003617)  
Of course,

**[02:37:26.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003618)  
masaya tayo

**[02:37:27.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003619)  
dun sa

**[02:37:27.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003620)  
dole-outs,

**[02:37:28.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003621)  
but we cannot

**[02:37:29.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003622)  
make that as a

**[02:37:31.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003623)  
sole policy.

**[02:37:33.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003624)  
Kasi nakita ko

**[02:37:34.200] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003625)  
dito sa inyo,

**[02:37:35.500] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003626)  
isa lang yung

**[02:37:36.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003627)  
inyong program.

**[02:37:37.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003628)  
So, what I'm

**[02:37:38.240] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003629)  
driving at is,

**[02:37:39.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003630)  
mag-isipan pa natin

**[02:37:40.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003631)  
bilang

**[02:37:41.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003632)  
the policymaker

**[02:37:43.160] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003633)  
of our senior

**[02:37:43.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003634)  
citizen,

**[02:37:45.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003635)  
kung how do we

**[02:37:45.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003636)  
make them

**[02:37:46.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003637)  
productive

**[02:37:47.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003638)  
sector

**[02:37:48.880] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003639)  
or productive

**[02:37:49.620] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003640)  
sector of our

**[02:37:50.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003641)  
society.

**[02:37:51.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003642)  
Yun ang

**[02:37:52.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003643)  
nakukuha kong

**[02:37:54.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003644)  
feedback from

**[02:37:55.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003645)  
our senior

**[02:37:56.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003646)  
citizens.

**[02:37:57.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003647)  
Especially,

**[02:37:58.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003648)  
pagdating sa

**[02:37:59.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003649)  
contribution.

**[02:38:00.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003650)  
So, in the next

**[02:38:02.360] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003651)  
few,

**[02:38:03.880] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003652)  
sabit na lang sa

**[02:38:04.700] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003653)  
committee,

**[02:38:05.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003654)  
just submit to

**[02:38:05.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003655)  
our committee,

**[02:38:06.900] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003656)  
what do you

**[02:38:07.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003657)  
recommend

**[02:38:08.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003658)  
as policy

**[02:38:09.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003659)  
to help our

**[02:38:11.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003660)  
senior citizens

**[02:38:12.040] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003661)  
to become

**[02:38:12.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003662)  
financially

**[02:38:14.080] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003663)  
independent,

**[02:38:17.000] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003664)  
a productive

**[02:38:18.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003665)  
sector of

**[02:38:19.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003666)  
our society,

**[02:38:20.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003667)  
at matulungan

**[02:38:21.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003668)  
rin natin

**[02:38:21.660] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003669)  
yung kanilang

**[02:38:22.140] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003670)  
mga concerns

**[02:38:22.960] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003671)  
in health

**[02:38:23.520] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003672)  
and livelihood.

**[02:38:25.260] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003673)  
Just submit

**[02:38:25.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003674)  
to the

**[02:38:26.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003675)  
committee.

**[02:38:27.860] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003676)  
Yes, po, sir.

**[02:38:30.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-003677)  
We will submit, po.

**[02:38:31.720] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003678)  
With that,

**[02:38:32.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003679)  
Madam Chair,

**[02:38:33.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003680)  
thank you very much.

**[02:38:34.000] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003681)  
I'll just avail

**[02:38:34.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003682)  
of the second round

**[02:38:35.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003683)  
later on.

**[02:38:36.480] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-003684)  
Thank you.

**[02:38:37.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003685)  
Marami salamat din, po,

**[02:38:38.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003686)  
SP.

**[02:38:40.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003687)  
Just a quick

**[02:38:41.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003688)  
follow-up question

**[02:38:41.920] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003689)  
bago ko

**[02:38:42.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003690)  
acknowledge si

**[02:38:43.900] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003691)  
Chair

**[02:38:44.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003692)  
JV.

**[02:38:47.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003693)  
Secrex,

**[02:38:48.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003694)  
meron pang

**[02:38:49.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003695)  
convergence

**[02:38:49.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003696)  
program

**[02:38:50.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003697)  
yung mga

**[02:38:51.400] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003698)  
agencies na

**[02:38:52.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003699)  
involved sa

**[02:38:53.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003700)  
mitigating

**[02:38:53.920] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003701)  
ng mga

**[02:38:54.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003702)  
epekto ng

**[02:38:55.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003703)  
super El Niño

**[02:38:56.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003704)  
sa mga

**[02:38:56.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003705)  
affected sectors.

**[02:38:57.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003706)  
At populations,

**[02:38:59.400] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003707)  
mga magsasaka,

**[02:39:00.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003708)  
mga manggagawa,

**[02:39:01.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003709)  
mga driver,

**[02:39:02.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003710)  
at iba pa.

**[02:39:03.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003711)  
Or hati-hati ba

**[02:39:04.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003712)  
ang bawat agency?

**[02:39:05.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003713)  
Or may convergence

**[02:39:06.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003714)  
ba?

**[02:39:07.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003715)  
DA, DSW,

**[02:39:08.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003716)  
DDOLE,

**[02:39:09.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003717)  
DOTR?

**[02:39:10.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003718)  
At anong efforts po

**[02:39:11.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003719)  
para ma-streamline

**[02:39:12.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003720)  
yung interventions

**[02:39:14.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003721)  
nyo at maging

**[02:39:14.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003722)  
mas targeted pa?

**[02:39:16.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003723)  
Madam Chair,

**[02:39:16.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003724)  
we are all part of

**[02:39:17.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003725)  
the Task Force

**[02:39:18.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003726)  
El Nino.

**[02:39:19.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003727)  
Hindi siya bagong

**[02:39:20.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003728)  
creation.

**[02:39:20.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003729)  
This was created

**[02:39:21.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003730)  
during the first

**[02:39:22.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003731)  
El Nino.

**[02:39:23.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003732)  
Hindi naman ho

**[02:39:24.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003733)  
na-abolish yung

**[02:39:24.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003734)  
group na yon.

**[02:39:25.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003735)  
The President

**[02:39:26.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003736)  
chairs that meeting

**[02:39:27.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003737)  
and he meets

**[02:39:28.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003738)  
quite regularly.

**[02:39:30.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003739)  
I'm not in the

**[02:39:31.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003740)  
position to go

**[02:39:32.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003741)  
through the litany

**[02:39:33.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003742)  
of things that

**[02:39:34.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003743)  
we all do

**[02:39:35.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003744)  
but we submit

**[02:39:36.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003745)  
our plans

**[02:39:37.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003746)  
and then

**[02:39:37.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003747)  
the Secretariat

**[02:39:40.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003748)  
which is the

**[02:39:40.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003749)  
OCD

**[02:39:41.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003750)  
collates all of it

**[02:39:45.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003751)  
for immediate action.

**[02:39:47.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003752)  
Salamat, Sec.

**[02:39:48.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003753)  
Chair GV,

**[02:39:49.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-003754)  
kayo na po.

**[02:39:50.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003755)  
Thank you.

**[02:39:51.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003756)  
Ang gata rin.

**[02:39:53.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003757)  
Tata rin

**[02:39:53.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003758)  
ng mga chair,

**[02:39:54.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003759)  
our Vice President

**[02:39:55.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003760)  
at our DSW family.

**[02:39:57.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003761)  
And I'm here

**[02:39:58.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003762)  
just to of course

**[02:39:59.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003763)  
listen.

**[02:40:02.140] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003764)  
Ano lang natin

**[02:40:03.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003765)  
just notable.

**[02:40:04.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003766)  
We just received

**[02:40:05.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003767)  
the HGAB

**[02:40:05.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003768)  
just a few days ago.

**[02:40:08.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003769)  
Ang pinaka-notable

**[02:40:10.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003770)  
change lang naman

**[02:40:11.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003771)  
is the

**[02:40:11.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003772)  
from the NEP

**[02:40:12.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003773)  
is the

**[02:40:13.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003774)  
itong AICS

**[02:40:15.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003775)  
at protective services.

**[02:40:17.180] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003776)  
So there's an increase

**[02:40:18.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003777)  
from

**[02:40:18.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003778)  
NEP of

**[02:40:20.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003779)  
33.2 billion

**[02:40:22.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003780)  
to 58 billion

**[02:40:23.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003781)  
na house gab.

**[02:40:25.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003782)  
But still it's

**[02:40:26.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003783)  
lower than the

**[02:40:27.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003784)  
2026

**[02:40:28.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003785)  
gaano

**[02:40:30.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003786)  
na 63 billion.

**[02:40:32.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003787)  
Just for the record,

**[02:40:34.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003788)  
correct na?

**[02:40:35.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003789)  
Madam Chair,

**[02:40:36.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003790)  
Mr. Chairman,

**[02:40:37.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003791)  
yes, that is correct.

**[02:40:39.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003792)  
Okay.

**[02:40:39.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003793)  
First,

**[02:40:40.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003794)  
and then

**[02:40:42.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003795)  
just a few questions,

**[02:40:45.100] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003796)  
Madam Chair.

**[02:40:47.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003797)  
The 2027 NEP

**[02:40:48.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003798)  
proposes

**[02:40:48.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003799)  
241.5 billion

**[02:40:51.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003800)  
in total expenditure

**[02:40:52.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003801)  
for the DSWD group.

**[02:40:54.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003802)  
10.6 percent

**[02:40:55.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003803)  
actually below

**[02:40:56.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003804)  
the 2026.

**[02:40:57.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003805)  
The same time

**[02:40:59.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003806)  
house gab

**[02:40:59.980] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003807)  
as I mentioned earlier

**[02:41:01.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003808)  
reduces major increases

**[02:41:02.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003809)  
for AICS

**[02:41:02.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003810)  
and disaster funding

**[02:41:04.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003811)  
while reducing

**[02:41:05.340] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003812)  
the Philippine community

**[02:41:06.420] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003813)  
resilience project.

**[02:41:07.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003814)  
We need to determine

**[02:41:09.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003815)  
which services are protected

**[02:41:10.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003816)  
and how those adjustments

**[02:41:11.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003817)  
will be measured.

**[02:41:12.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003818)  
So my first question is

**[02:41:14.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003819)  
what are the

**[02:41:14.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003820)  
three most important

**[02:41:15.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003821)  
measurable outcomes

**[02:41:17.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003822)  
the DSWD commits

**[02:41:18.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003823)  
to deliver for poor

**[02:41:19.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003824)  
and vulnerable

**[02:41:20.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003825)  
Filipinos in 2027

**[02:41:22.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003826)  
with the budget

**[02:41:23.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003827)  
of as mentioned

**[02:41:25.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003828)  
the

**[02:41:26.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003829)  
it's 10% lower

**[02:41:28.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003830)  
at 241 billion.

**[02:41:30.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003831)  
Just quickly siguro.

**[02:41:31.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003832)  
Madam Chair,

**[02:41:32.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003833)  
una ho,

**[02:41:33.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003834)  
tama ho yun.

**[02:41:34.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003835)  
Isa yan sa

**[02:41:35.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003836)  
yung binanggit ho

**[02:41:36.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003837)  
ng chairman natin

**[02:41:37.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003838)  
na reduction doon

**[02:41:37.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003839)  
sa resilience program.

**[02:41:39.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003840)  
I just wanna flag ho

**[02:41:40.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003841)  
na ODA ho yan.

**[02:41:41.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003842)  
So,

**[02:41:42.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003843)  
pag tinanggal ho yun,

**[02:41:44.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003844)  
I don't think

**[02:41:44.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003845)  
we will be able to

**[02:41:45.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003846)  
fulfill the commitments.

**[02:41:47.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003847)  
ODA ho yan sa World Bank.

**[02:41:48.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003848)  
Yan ho yung

**[02:41:49.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003849)  
community-driven development.

**[02:41:51.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003850)  
So moving forward,

**[02:41:52.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003851)  
one,

**[02:41:52.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003852)  
we wanna intensify

**[02:41:54.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003853)  
investment in human capital.

**[02:41:56.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003854)  
Sa 4Ps po talaga

**[02:41:57.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003855)  
ho yan na pupunta.

**[02:41:58.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003856)  
Kalahati ng budget namin

**[02:42:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003857)  
ay 4Ps,

**[02:42:00.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003858)  
pati ang manpower namin

**[02:42:01.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003859)  
kalahati 4Ps.

**[02:42:02.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003860)  
Nabanggit ko na po kanina

**[02:42:03.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003861)  
yung mga program enhancements

**[02:42:05.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003862)  
natin

**[02:42:05.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003863)  
to include systems upgrade

**[02:42:07.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003864)  
in the real sense,

**[02:42:08.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003865)  
getting their grants faster,

**[02:42:11.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003866)  
expanding the horizon

**[02:42:12.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003867)  
for our monitored children,

**[02:42:14.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003868)  
and last but not the least,

**[02:42:15.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003869)  
in this age of

**[02:42:16.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003870)  
nihilistic violence extremism,

**[02:42:19.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003871)  
magandang vehicle ho kasi

**[02:42:21.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003872)  
yung 4Ps

**[02:42:21.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003873)  
through the family development session.

**[02:42:24.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003874)  
We in fact revamped

**[02:42:25.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003875)  
the program

**[02:42:25.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003876)  
to the core

**[02:42:26.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003877)  
curriculum program offering

**[02:42:27.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003878)  
kasi naniniwala ho kami

**[02:42:28.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003879)  
na tulad nang sila

**[02:42:29.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003880)  
ng World Bank,

**[02:42:30.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003881)  
nakikita na natin

**[02:42:30.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003882)  
unti-unti yung fruition

**[02:42:32.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003883)  
ng 4Ps

**[02:42:32.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003884)  
after 18 years.

**[02:42:34.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003885)  
May direct correlation

**[02:42:35.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003886)  
na to poverty reduction,

**[02:42:36.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003887)  
nakikita na natin

**[02:42:37.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003888)  
yung data

**[02:42:38.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003889)  
na mas matagal sila

**[02:42:39.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003890)  
sa school,

**[02:42:39.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003891)  
landing better jobs,

**[02:42:41.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003892)  
mga pagkababaihan nila,

**[02:42:42.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003893)  
getting better employment.

**[02:42:44.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003894)  
So yun ho,

**[02:42:45.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003895)  
with the half of our budget

**[02:42:46.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003896)  
going to 4Ps,

**[02:42:47.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003897)  
we wanna tighten

**[02:42:47.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003898)  
pa the program implementation.

**[02:42:49.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003899)  
Second,

**[02:42:50.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003900)  
disaster response,

**[02:42:51.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003901)  
more swift,

**[02:42:52.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003902)  
more warehouses

**[02:42:53.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003903)  
para mas mabilis

**[02:42:54.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003904)  
ho kami nakaka-responde.

**[02:42:55.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003905)  
Bagamat,

**[02:42:55.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003906)  
we want to

**[02:42:56.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003907)  
else use

**[02:42:57.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003908)  
ang front line

**[02:42:57.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003909)  
pero alam rin naman natin

**[02:42:59.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003910)  
na minsan maliliit

**[02:43:00.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003911)  
yung capacity nila

**[02:43:01.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003912)  
so doon kami

**[02:43:02.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003913)  
nahihirapan,

**[02:43:03.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003914)  
that's why we have to come in.

**[02:43:04.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003915)  
And third,

**[02:43:05.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003916)  
taking care of the poor,

**[02:43:06.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003917)  
the marginalized,

**[02:43:06.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003918)  
the vulnerable.

**[02:43:07.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003919)  
Dumudulog ho kami

**[02:43:07.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003920)  
na sana mapatuloy

**[02:43:08.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003921)  
na madagdagan yung enhancements

**[02:43:10.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003922)  
ng aming care facilities

**[02:43:11.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003923)  
kasi ho,

**[02:43:12.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003924)  
dumadami pa rin ho

**[02:43:13.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003925)  
yung mga kliyente namin

**[02:43:15.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003926)  
and we have to make sure

**[02:43:16.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003927)  
na itong mga care facilities

**[02:43:17.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003928)  
natin are up to standard.

**[02:43:19.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003929)  
Okay, thank you,

**[02:43:20.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003930)  
Sir Craig.

**[02:43:20.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003931)  
Sa next,

**[02:43:22.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003932)  
anyway,

**[02:43:22.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003933)  
na-mention na rin yung

**[02:43:23.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003934)  
sa 4Ps.

**[02:43:24.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003935)  
No,

**[02:43:25.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003936)  
2027 NEP

**[02:43:27.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003937)  
allocates

**[02:43:28.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003938)  
99.075 billion

**[02:43:30.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003939)  
for the 4Ps

**[02:43:31.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003940)  
down 12.3%

**[02:43:32.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003941)  
from the 2026 GA

**[02:43:35.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003942)  
with a target of

**[02:43:36.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003943)  
3.5 million households

**[02:43:37.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003944)  
under Executive Order

**[02:43:39.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003945)  
No. 120

**[02:43:40.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003946)  
Series 2026.

**[02:43:42.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003947)  
Qualified households

**[02:43:43.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003948)  
may remain beyond

**[02:43:44.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003949)  
7 years

**[02:43:45.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003950)  
until they attain

**[02:43:46.440] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003951)  
Level 3

**[02:43:47.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003952)  
self-sufficiency

**[02:43:48.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003953)  
under the Social Welfare

**[02:43:49.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003954)  
Development Indicators.

**[02:43:51.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003955)  
Subject to program,

**[02:43:52.280] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003956)  
eligibility extension

**[02:43:53.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003957)  
should be matched

**[02:43:53.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003958)  
by an

**[02:43:54.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003959)  
actual pathway

**[02:43:55.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003960)  
towards stable life.

**[02:43:56.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003961)  
Ang question is,

**[02:43:57.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003962)  
what is the

**[02:43:58.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003963)  
DSWD's concrete

**[02:43:59.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003964)  
2027 exit

**[02:44:01.080] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003965)  
and graduation plan

**[02:44:01.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-003966)  
for 4Ps household?

**[02:44:03.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003967)  
Madam Chair,

**[02:44:04.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003968)  
we're very proud

**[02:44:06.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003969)  
of this data.

**[02:44:08.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003970)  
Prior to 2022,

**[02:44:10.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003971)  
15,000 lang

**[02:44:11.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003972)  
na pamilya

**[02:44:12.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003973)  
ang nag-exit

**[02:44:12.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003974)  
sa 4Ps.

**[02:44:13.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003975)  
15,000.

**[02:44:15.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003976)  
Right now,

**[02:44:16.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003977)  
since 2022

**[02:44:16.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003978)  
till now,

**[02:44:17.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003979)  
1.7 million families.

**[02:44:20.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003980)  
Ang point natin doon,

**[02:44:21.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003981)  
ibig sabihin,

**[02:44:22.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003982)  
the interventions

**[02:44:22.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003983)  
are working

**[02:44:23.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003984)  
kaya napapag-grant

**[02:44:24.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003985)  
graduate ko sila

**[02:44:24.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003986)  
kaya lumiliit na yung budget.

**[02:44:26.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003987)  
Tulad nga na

**[02:44:26.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003988)  
sabi ng SP,

**[02:44:27.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003989)  
ito siguro yung programa

**[02:44:28.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003990)  
na matutuwa tayo

**[02:44:28.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003991)  
kung lumiliit siya.

**[02:44:30.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003992)  
Kasi nga,

**[02:44:30.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003993)  
pantawid lang siya.

**[02:44:31.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003994)  
It's really not meant

**[02:44:32.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003995)  
to last forever.

**[02:44:33.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003996)  
Now,

**[02:44:34.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003997)  
ang concrete namin

**[02:44:35.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003998)  
na execution plan dito,

**[02:44:37.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-003999)  
to fulfill its mandate

**[02:44:38.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004000)  
of breaking

**[02:44:38.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004001)  
intergenerational poverty

**[02:44:40.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004002)  
is we have to continue

**[02:44:41.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004003)  
investing doon

**[02:44:42.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004004)  
sa tatlong monitored children.

**[02:44:44.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004005)  
Siguraduhin natin na

**[02:44:45.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004006)  
makapag-kolehyo sila

**[02:44:46.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004007)  
para yung tatlong

**[02:44:47.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004008)  
monitored children

**[02:44:48.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004009)  
becomes the pantawid

**[02:44:49.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004010)  
of the family.

**[02:44:50.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004011)  
Kaya tulad nung

**[02:44:50.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004012)  
binanggit ko kanina,

**[02:44:51.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004013)  
yung enhanced support service

**[02:44:53.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004014)  
is now going to be

**[02:44:54.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004015)  
geared towards

**[02:44:55.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004016)  
the monitored children

**[02:44:56.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004017)  
carrying on their

**[02:44:57.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004018)  
college or tech voc careers.

**[02:45:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004019)  
hindi namin tatapat, hindi namin i-replicate

**[02:45:02.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004020)  
yung ginawa nyo na ho sa TES

**[02:45:03.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004021)  
enhancement, pero yung cost of

**[02:45:05.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004022)  
studying, yun pa rin ang daing nila.

**[02:45:07.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004023)  
Libre ang tuition, pero

**[02:45:09.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004024)  
pagdating naman nila sa mga syudad, uupa

**[02:45:11.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004025)  
sila ng bahay, pagkain,

**[02:45:13.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004026)  
and bagamat merong 15,000,

**[02:45:15.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004027)  
I believe na napibigay ang CHED for every

**[02:45:17.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004028)  
semester, it's really not enough. So

**[02:45:19.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004029)  
dadagdagan ho namin yun. Kasi our

**[02:45:21.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004030)  
plan talaga is at least, itong

**[02:45:23.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004031)  
tatlong monitored children,

**[02:45:25.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004032)  
namuhuna na tayo eh.

**[02:45:27.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004033)  
We make sure na makatapos na ho

**[02:45:29.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004034)  
talaga sila para sila yung maging pantawid

**[02:45:31.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004035)  
sa ating mga beneficiary.

**[02:45:33.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004036)  
And the exit mechanism still goes

**[02:45:35.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004037)  
back to tightening pa rin the program

**[02:45:36.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004038)  
execution. Case management

**[02:45:39.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004039)  
has to be strengthened pa rin

**[02:45:41.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004040)  
kasi doon ho natin matidetect yung mga

**[02:45:43.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004041)  
grievance na minsan nantagal na sa

**[02:45:44.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004042)  
programa, pero nandun pa rin.

**[02:45:47.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004043)  
Hindi naman qualified, pero nandun pa rin.

**[02:45:49.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004044)  
With a stronger case management,

**[02:45:51.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004045)  
na napabantayan talaga sila ng mga links

**[02:45:52.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004046)  
natin, ng mga caseworkers natin, we know

**[02:45:55.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004047)  
that we can do the execution of the

**[02:45:57.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004048)  
program better in terms of program

**[02:45:58.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004049)  
exiting.

**[02:46:00.480] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004050)  
Thank you. That's good to hear.

**[02:46:02.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004051)  
There are a lot of those who graduated na,

**[02:46:04.760] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004052)  
nag-exit na.

**[02:46:07.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004053)  
Also,

**[02:46:08.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004054)  
mentioned, there's a big

**[02:46:10.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004055)  
increase sa house gap, no?

**[02:46:12.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004056)  
Sa AICS, no? Protective Services,

**[02:46:14.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004057)  
principally AICS,

**[02:46:16.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004058)  
from 33.285 billion

**[02:46:18.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004059)  
to 58.091 billion.

**[02:46:20.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004060)  
AICS is intended to assist people

**[02:46:22.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004061)  
in genuine crisis, but the 2025

**[02:46:24.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004062)  
COA finding stated that

**[02:46:26.740] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004063)  
multiple and overlapping payments totaling

**[02:46:28.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004064)  
P397.4

**[02:46:30.820] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004065)  
million and weaknesses in

**[02:46:32.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004066)  
referral-based selection

**[02:46:34.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004067)  
and validation. This makes independent access

**[02:46:36.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004068)  
clear eligibility rules

**[02:46:38.840] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004069)  
and traceable distribution especially important.

**[02:46:41.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004070)  
Ang ano lang question is, how would

**[02:46:42.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004071)  
DSW ensure that AICS is a needs-based

**[02:46:44.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004072)  
government service rather

**[02:46:46.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004073)  
than a vehicle for political patronage,

**[02:46:49.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004074)  
particularly as the 2028

**[02:46:50.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004075)  
elections approach? Kasi ito yung mga

**[02:46:52.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004076)  
clear, no? Ng mga civil

**[02:46:54.600] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004077)  
society organizations and

**[02:46:56.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004078)  
watchdogs na parang

**[02:46:58.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004079)  
magiging, baka maging tool siya

**[02:47:00.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004080)  
for patronage.

**[02:47:02.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004081)  
Madam Chair, let me answer the first

**[02:47:04.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004082)  
part, yung COA report.

**[02:47:07.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004083)  
In that COA report, una ho,

**[02:47:08.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004084)  
let me just state categorically,

**[02:47:10.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004085)  
wala naman ho kaming disallowance.

**[02:47:12.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004086)  
In fact, sinabi sa amin, to make sure

**[02:47:14.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004087)  
that we validate. So the validation is

**[02:47:16.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004088)  
ongoing. Kasi ang argument namin doon, multiple

**[02:47:18.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004089)  
findings ho yun eh. Una, sabi nila may

**[02:47:20.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004090)  
double tipping. Ibig sabihin, nakatanggap

**[02:47:22.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004091)  
ng ACAP that time, pero

**[02:47:24.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004092)  
nakakuha ng AICS. Pero pinaliliwanag namin

**[02:47:26.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004093)  
sa guidelines, as long as it's not the same

**[02:47:28.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004094)  
item. For instance, nagkasakit.

**[02:47:31.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004095)  
So pinigyan natin ang medical.

**[02:47:32.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004096)  
E namatayan ho. So we give them burial

**[02:47:34.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004097)  
naman. As long as it's not the same

**[02:47:36.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004098)  
item that they availed of, then that should be

**[02:47:38.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004099)  
allowed in our guidelines. Pangalawain,

**[02:47:40.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004100)  
sabi nila, in excess.

**[02:47:42.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004101)  
Ang answer

**[02:47:44.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004102)  
response namin sa COA doon is,

**[02:47:46.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004103)  
as long as they don't reach the maximum

**[02:47:48.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004104)  
10,000. So meaning,

**[02:47:50.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004105)  
if they got 2,000 first, tapos

**[02:47:52.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004106)  
bumalik sila, the social

**[02:47:54.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004107)  
worker decides to give another 2,000,

**[02:47:56.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004108)  
as long as they don't reach.

**[02:47:58.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004109)  
And within the three months.

**[02:48:00.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004110)  
Now, what happened in this finding

**[02:48:02.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004111)  
in particular is, because COA said,

**[02:48:04.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004112)  
okay, we take cognizance of your answer.

**[02:48:06.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004113)  
As we speak right now, nagba-validate

**[02:48:08.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004114)  
kami, pina-validate ulit sa amin

**[02:48:10.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004115)  
to complete the data set.

**[02:48:12.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004116)  
Kasi hinahanap yung mga social case

**[02:48:14.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004117)  
intake ng mga individual na to.

**[02:48:16.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004118)  
And then COA is also doing their

**[02:48:18.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004119)  
parallel validation. It is

**[02:48:20.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004120)  
due to end both validation by

**[02:48:22.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004121)  
December. Kasi nga, we're saying that this

**[02:48:24.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004122)  
amount is not

**[02:48:25.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004123)  
in excess. Hindi ho yan. Now, Madam,

**[02:48:28.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004124)  
Chair, I know that the civil society

**[02:48:30.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004125)  
and everybody's concerned about the politization

**[02:48:32.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004126)  
or the chance of politization of the department.

**[02:48:34.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004127)  
Ang lagi ko sinasagot doon,

**[02:48:36.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004128)  
anybody, I said this to COA

**[02:48:38.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004129)  
as well, can refer. We get referrals

**[02:48:40.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004130)  
from everybody. Pati ho sa radio stations

**[02:48:42.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004131)  
na public service announcement,

**[02:48:44.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004132)  
sa simbahan, public servants.

**[02:48:46.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004133)  
But at the end of the day, yung

**[02:48:48.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004134)  
social worker ho, does the intake ko?

**[02:48:50.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004135)  
Nobody can dictate on them kung qualified

**[02:48:52.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004136)  
or not qualified, at kung magkano

**[02:48:54.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004137)  
ang ibibigay.

**[02:48:55.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004138)  
Our social workers

**[02:48:57.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004139)  
are licensed professionals.

**[02:48:58.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004140)  
And with a lot of them getting regularized

**[02:49:00.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004141)  
pa, hopefully,

**[02:49:02.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004142)  
we know for a fact that they can withstand

**[02:49:04.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004143)  
yung mga pressures.

**[02:49:07.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004144)  
Unlike other departments,

**[02:49:08.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004145)  
I don't want to draw a parallelism,

**[02:49:10.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004146)  
pero unlike the other grants being

**[02:49:12.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004147)  
given by other departments, kami kasi may gatekeeper,

**[02:49:15.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004148)  
the social worker.

**[02:49:16.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004149)  
Unlike the other departments, wala silang gatekeeper.

**[02:49:18.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004150)  
I mean, sila ho yung nagdi-determine

**[02:49:20.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004151)  
qualified ba to, hindi qualified,

**[02:49:22.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004152)  
magkano ba ibibigay.

**[02:49:25.880] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004153)  
I'm sure

**[02:49:26.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004154)  
that since

**[02:49:28.380] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004155)  
AICS has been being

**[02:49:29.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004156)  
implemented for so many years, may mga safeguards

**[02:49:32.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004157)  
na tayo rito. And

**[02:49:34.040] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004158)  
considering that this is cash,

**[02:49:35.960] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004159)  
yun ang medyo, it's prone to

**[02:49:38.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004160)  
of course, temptation.

**[02:49:42.460] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004161)  
Siguro, quickly lang, ano po yung mga

**[02:49:44.300] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004162)  
safeguards to ensure that

**[02:49:45.940] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004163)  
it reaches

**[02:49:48.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004164)  
the target beneficiaries.

**[02:49:50.700] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004165)  
Na wala ng

**[02:49:52.520] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004166)  
kukurot,

**[02:49:54.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004167)  
ikanga, doon sa

**[02:49:56.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004168)  
dapat mapunta.

**[02:49:58.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004169)  
Madam Chair, we've had a lot of cases

**[02:50:00.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004170)  
na ang fraud or yung kumurot,

**[02:50:02.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004171)  
hindi naman ho empleyado.

**[02:50:04.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004172)  
Kung hindi, we have a very particular case

**[02:50:06.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004173)  
at Site 1, para mas konkreto,

**[02:50:08.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004174)  
in Iloilo, this is all over the news,

**[02:50:11.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004175)  
na sindikato

**[02:50:12.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004176)  
ng certain, hindi naman lahat, certain

**[02:50:14.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004177)  
barangay officials, hindi ko naman ho nila lahat.

**[02:50:17.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004178)  
So when the news got to us,

**[02:50:18.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004179)  
sinampahan talaga namin ang kaso ito mga to

**[02:50:20.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004180)  
prove a point. Pero nandun pa rin ho

**[02:50:22.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004181)  
sa massive information campaign. In the last

**[02:50:24.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004182)  
budget hearing, we cited number one,

**[02:50:26.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004183)  
during payouts, paulit-ulit ho talaga,

**[02:50:28.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004184)  
kailangan sabihin ng mga social worker namin na

**[02:50:30.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004185)  
inyo yan, huwag nyo ibigay

**[02:50:32.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004186)  
kahit kanino yan. Now, kung meron

**[02:50:34.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004187)  
isumbong nyo sa amin, there are anonymous

**[02:50:36.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004188)  
ways of doing it. We have a very

**[02:50:38.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004189)  
robust grievance mechanism in the department,

**[02:50:41.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004190)  
even for four piece.

**[02:50:43.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004191)  
Naka-skill rin sa mga

**[02:50:44.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004192)  
payout centers namin, yung mga rules,

**[02:50:46.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004193)  
halimbawa, magkano ang matatanggap mo,

**[02:50:48.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004194)  
inyo ba yan, even in their

**[02:50:50.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004195)  
local dialect. Kasi sometimes the lack

**[02:50:52.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004196)  
of information makes them think na pwedeng

**[02:50:54.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004197)  
kaltasan sila ng ibang tao.

**[02:50:56.640] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004198)  
Also, yung increase

**[02:50:58.020] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004199)  
sa HGAB, is that

**[02:50:59.200] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004200)  
the agency

**[02:51:02.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004201)  
or the agency recommendation

**[02:51:04.360] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004202)  
o galing lang sa house yun?

**[02:51:06.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004203)  
Madam Chair, we recommended

**[02:51:08.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004204)  
pero kulang pangaho.

**[02:51:10.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004205)  
What was the target?

**[02:51:12.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004206)  
The target was sana mabalik lang ho kami

**[02:51:14.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004207)  
sa 63.9 billion.

**[02:51:16.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004208)  
Same as the last time.

**[02:51:19.220] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004209)  
But probably because of the

**[02:51:20.580] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004210)  
really tight, very

**[02:51:22.560] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004211)  
very tight fiscal

**[02:51:24.060] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004212)  
space, all the departments really

**[02:51:26.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004213)  
suffered cuts. Kaya I'm

**[02:51:29.320] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004214)  
quite particular.

**[02:51:30.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004215)  
Madam Chair, kung pwede lang ako dumulog ulit.

**[02:51:32.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004216)  
Mr. Grants kasi ho, and as pointed out,

**[02:51:35.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004217)  
we're looking at the barrel of the gun

**[02:51:37.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004218)  
with El Nino,

**[02:51:38.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004219)  
with inflation,

**[02:51:41.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004220)  
and then yung regular pa namin na pumupunta

**[02:51:43.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004221)  
sa opisina.

**[02:51:44.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004222)  
This year has been quite challenging. Imagine nyo,

**[02:51:47.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004223)  
kami yung ginamit during the

**[02:51:48.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004224)  
RSSI payout na nangyayari pa rin ngayon.

**[02:51:51.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004225)  
Kami rin yung ginagamit

**[02:51:53.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004226)  
sa drought. Kami rin yung

**[02:51:55.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004227)  
humarap sa mga transport sector.

**[02:51:56.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004228)  
So, on top of that, meron pa kami

**[02:51:58.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004229)  
yung mga regular na tumudulog sa aming

**[02:52:00.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004230)  
mga tanggapan. So, I know

**[02:52:02.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004231)  
it's tight fiscal space, pero tulad nang sinabi ko

**[02:52:04.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004232)  
sa Kim, kung meron sanang last na

**[02:52:06.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004233)  
pwedeng bawasan ng konti, sana ho

**[02:52:08.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004234)  
kami yun.

**[02:52:10.500] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004235)  
Yung RSSI, Sek, no,

**[02:52:12.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004236)  
that's yung mga sugar

**[02:52:13.900] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004237)  
producing provinces,

**[02:52:18.260] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004238)  
it's still ongoing, no, tsaka wala pang

**[02:52:20.680] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004239)  
end in sight. So, how many,

**[02:52:22.720] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004240)  
just want to ask kasi, I came from

**[02:52:24.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004241)  
my mother is from Negros, ako rin ng

**[02:52:26.780] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004242)  
author ng Sugarcane Industry Development

**[02:52:28.860] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004243)  
Act. We're very much concerned

**[02:52:30.540] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004244)  
with itong sugar production.

**[02:52:33.800] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004245)  
So, mga ilan na ba yung

**[02:52:34.660] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004246)  
beneficiaries natin total?

**[02:52:37.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004247)  
Mr. Chair, Madam Chair, if you allow me

**[02:52:38.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004248)  
just one second, kasi it's a running,

**[02:52:40.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004249)  
ongoing pa rin yung payout. So, papakuha ko yung

**[02:52:42.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004250)  
pinaka-latest.

**[02:52:45.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004251)  
Yung RSSI.

**[02:52:45.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004252)  
Okay.

**[02:52:49.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004253)  
Meron ba kayo?

**[02:52:52.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004254)  
Hindi, hindi

**[02:52:54.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004255)  
Okay na.

**[02:52:56.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004256)  
Yung pinaka meron ka

**[02:54:21.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004259)  
1.4, no?

**[02:54:26.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004260)  
We've already allotted 1.4 billion, of which a greater chunk is going to Negros Occidental and Negros Oriental.

**[02:54:35.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004261)  
The balance went to Capiz.

**[02:54:38.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004262)  
And then we are also now looking at portions of Iloilo, Pasi City in particular.

**[02:54:45.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004263)  
And then may nagde-declare na rin sunod-sunod.

**[02:54:47.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004264)  
And the majority floor leader also called our attention to Pukidnon.

**[02:54:51.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004265)  
Kasi meron din silang sugar plantations doon.

**[02:54:54.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004266)  
But the 1.4, 1.1 to 1.2 of that went to Negros Oriental and Negros Occidental.

**[02:55:01.000] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004267)  
It was already asked by our Senate President earlier, ito sa El Nino natin, yung farmers and fisher folks.

**[02:55:10.920] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004268)  
So do you have any estimate na na projection, yung high and low of it for 2037?

**[02:55:18.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004269)  
We are yet to get the projection from the Department of Agriculture.

**[02:55:21.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004270)  
But what we can show you is in ongoing na po.

**[02:55:24.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004271)  
I'll flash you the map, yung El Nino map.

**[02:55:29.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004272)  
Yung kanina.

**[02:55:34.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004273)  
May 10.9 sa RSPSA.

**[02:55:37.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004274)  
...

**[02:55:39.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004275)  
Madam Chair, the RSPSA database is 10.9 farmers.

**[02:55:46.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004276)  
So we're looking at a portion of that.

**[02:55:48.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004277)  
As mentioned, siguro mga 80% of it.

**[02:55:50.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004278)  
But based on the El Nino heat map kasi by January,

**[02:55:53.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004279)  
by this March of next year,

**[02:55:54.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004280)  
pretty much the entire country na ang sakop.

**[02:55:56.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004281)  
So we're assuming that that's the entire number, 10.9.

**[02:56:00.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004282)  
Pero obviously, that's the maximum kasi may mga iba naman hopefully na hindi tatamaan.

**[02:56:06.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004283)  
But we can show you, Madam Chair, as I showed, this is the ongoing efforts already.

**[02:56:12.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004284)  
The provinces were operating lahat na sa eastern seaboard as projected.

**[02:56:16.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004285)  
Cagayan, Isabela, that's around 77,260.

**[02:56:24.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004286)  
Farmers, ongoing or paid out na yan.

**[02:56:27.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004287)  
And then Camarines Norte with 26,041.

**[02:56:31.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004288)  
Sila na yung naunay because they're in the eastern seaboard.

**[02:56:35.400] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004289)  
Parang hindi tayo naupusan ng crisis every year.

**[02:56:39.120] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004290)  
May RSSI, mayroon na naman ang El Nino.

**[02:56:41.620] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004291)  
So anyway, thank you, Secrex.

**[02:56:44.160] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004292)  
Madam Chair, that's all for now.

**[02:56:46.240] Senator Joseph Victor "JV" G. Ejercito** (asr-004293)  
I'll just be here to monitor this.

**[02:56:49.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004294)  
Marami salamat, Chair.

**[02:56:50.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004295)  
Back to you, SP, for your second round.

**[02:56:54.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004296)  
It's all right po.

**[02:56:57.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004297)  
I'm also still waiting for Senator Bong Go.

**[02:57:00.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004298)  
And then sabi kanina ni Senator Ami, babalik siya.

**[02:57:03.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004299)  
So you may lead off for the second round.

**[02:57:05.620] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004300)  
I just have a few items lang, Madam Chairperson.

**[02:57:10.400] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004301)  
Balikan ko lang yung sinabi ng ating Chairman, Senator JV.

**[02:57:14.800] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004302)  
Itong panahon ng pagkilos, Philippine Community Resilience Project.

**[02:57:19.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004303)  
I understand that this is a foreign-assisted project.

**[02:57:24.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004304)  
It's a funded project.

**[02:57:25.740] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004305)  
And ang aim nito is to make communities resilient to poverty, disaster, and climate change.

**[02:57:35.100] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004306)  
And ongoing, I just want to ask, anong status nitong project?

**[02:57:41.760] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004307)  
At paano makaka-apekto itong pagbawas sa NEP ng 5.5 billion pesos?

**[02:57:54.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004308)  
So, kasi kung ongoing na siya, tapos mababawasan, mapuputol, sayang inumpisahan.

**[02:58:02.560] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004309)  
So we want to get an update on this foreign-assisted project.

**[02:58:09.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004310)  
Madam Chair, as mentioned, this is the successor program ng Kalahi na original that's been running for 20-25 years.

**[02:58:16.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004311)  
Nung 2024, nag-sunset na yung Kalahi.

**[02:58:21.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004312)  
Basically, ang programa nun.

**[02:58:23.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004313)  
And wala yan sa cities, wala yan sa first-class, second-class cities.

**[02:58:27.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004314)  
Normally, they're in the farthest, poorest provinces or municipalities that otherwise hindi mapapansin ng ga'a.

**[02:58:35.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004315)  
Kasi ang layo nila, nasa liblib na lugar.

**[02:58:38.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004316)  
Ang ginagawa ko dyan, the community identifies, parang bottom-up budgeting yan.

**[02:58:42.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004317)  
The community identifies the project that they need.

**[02:58:46.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004318)  
And then those sub-projects normally don't go beyond 20 million on a three-year scale.

**[02:58:52.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004319)  
Now,

**[02:58:53.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004320)  
sa mata ng mga benepisyaryo natin, tuloy-tuloy yung programa kasi nga walang intermission

**[02:58:57.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004321)  
dahil we applied for an extension through Panahon Pagkilos.

**[02:59:01.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004322)  
Same concept, community-driven development, community-procured, may counterparting na 20-30%.

**[02:59:07.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004323)  
Now, the biggest worry there is when World Bank approved the design,

**[02:59:13.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004324)  
I pre-identify na yung mga targets, how many LGUs ang makikinabang.

**[02:59:18.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004325)  
But the problem is, now that cut,

**[02:59:21.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004326)  
I'm sorry.

**[02:59:23.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004327)  
Ang tatamano dyan yung community grants nila.

**[02:59:25.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004328)  
Meaning, lesser sub-projects, itong mga pre-identified na targets, hindi hun lahat mabibigyan.

**[02:59:33.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004329)  
Now, the worry there is also, I don't think the development agency will like that

**[02:59:38.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004330)  
because when we did sign the commitment, meron na yung pre-identified mechanisms and the designs are already preset.

**[02:59:45.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004331)  
Ongoing na ito?

**[02:59:46.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004332)  
Ongoing na po. In fact, we're doing the first round this year.

**[02:59:50.220] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004333)  
Okay.

**[02:59:50.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004334)  
It's a five-year plan.

**[02:59:53.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004335)  
Until 2031.

**[02:59:55.340] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004336)  
Okay. And then, ang counterpart natin is 10 billion.

**[02:59:59.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004337)  
Is correct.

**[02:59:59.980] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004338)  
10 billion.

**[03:00:02.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004339)  
Dito sa original na P17 billion, nandito na yung counterpart.

**[03:00:15.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004340)  
Nandito na yung counterpart pero ang nabawasan po ay yung ODA side.

**[03:00:20.680] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004341)  
Ah, yung ODA side.

**[03:00:21.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004342)  
At the COP side.

**[03:00:23.580] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004343)  
Okay.

**[03:00:23.920] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004344)  
Okay.

**[03:00:24.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004345)  
Okay. Will it help? Ang mangyayari dito dahil nabawasan ng P5.4, beneficiary?

**[03:00:35.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004346)  
Liliit. Yes. And when we talk about beneficiaries, communities. LGUs.

**[03:00:40.120] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004347)  
And how many communities ang mababawasan with that P5.5 cut?

**[03:00:54.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004348)  
Madam Chair, hindi ho mababawasan yung physical target pero ang liliit ho yung matatanggap nila na grant.

**[03:01:02.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004349)  
So we'll have to proportionally apply the cut everywhere.

**[03:01:06.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004350)  
So halimbawa, ang na-initial na, kasi the whole concept there is they are pre-identified using the filters.

**[03:01:12.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004351)  
Meron ba diya ang mataas bang poverty incidents, stunting incident, meron bang presence ng indigenous people,

**[03:01:19.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004352)  
and susceptible ba kayo sa climate change or disasters.

**[03:01:22.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004353)  
So nung na-identify na sila,

**[03:01:24.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004354)  
we gathered the LGUs already and notified them of their allocations

**[03:01:27.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004355)  
and beneficiary na sila.

**[03:01:30.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004356)  
So they made their community planning already.

**[03:01:32.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004357)  
Now, babalikan namin sila at sasabihin namin sa kanila,

**[03:01:35.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004358)  
yung plinano nyo, if that was no more than 20 million, liliit ho yun.

**[03:01:39.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004359)  
So they'll have to scale down.

**[03:01:40.600] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004360)  
Pagkano makukuha nila? Originally it was 20 million.

**[03:01:43.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004361)  
No more than 20 million yan.

**[03:01:44.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004362)  
For sub-projects.

**[03:01:46.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004363)  
Yeah.

**[03:01:48.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004364)  
For every year kasi no more than 20 million ho yan.

**[03:01:51.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004365)  
These are micro-projects.

**[03:01:52.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004366)  
We're talking about pathways.

**[03:01:54.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004367)  
We're talking about pathways, bridges, yung pinakita ko kanina, yung water system.

**[03:01:58.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004368)  
So that's 20 to 20 million for the span of 3 years.

**[03:02:02.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004369)  
So mga 50 to 70 million for the span of 5 years.

**[03:02:07.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004370)  
3 years, sorry, 3 years.

**[03:02:08.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004371)  
So yun ang mababawasan ho.

**[03:02:10.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004372)  
Proportionately, we'll have to cut it.

**[03:02:12.180] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004373)  
Baka wala na silang matapos with that.

**[03:02:14.440] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004374)  
Siyempre, the smaller the project, the less the impact, di ba?

**[03:02:18.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004375)  
Madam Chair, that's the fear.

**[03:02:19.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004376)  
And more so, maliliit na nga siya kasi they're micro-infrastructure projects.

**[03:02:24.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004377)  
That otherwise, hindi mapapansin sa budgeting season because bottom-up budgeting to.

**[03:02:27.860] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004378)  
So this is the successor to Kalahis?

**[03:02:29.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004379)  
Yes.

**[03:02:30.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004380)  
Yes.

**[03:02:30.940] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004381)  
Okay.

**[03:02:31.280] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004382)  
Which is a successful project rin?

**[03:02:33.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004383)  
Yes.

**[03:02:34.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004384)  
Sa mga information na po.

**[03:02:35.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004385)  
We believe that it's successful.

**[03:02:36.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004386)  
Otherwise, the World Bank would not have given it or NEDA, DEPDEV would not have given it a go-signal for a successor program.

**[03:02:43.640] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004387)  
Alright.

**[03:02:46.320] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004388)  
We'll take note of that kasi nakita ko na-cut yung project na nasabi na ng ating chairman to kanina.

**[03:02:54.060] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004389)  
That's why we're also evaluating yung mga cuts and also additions, actually.

**[03:03:04.300] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004390)  
Actually, I don't have any more questions, Madam Chairperson.

**[03:03:08.020] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004391)  
Thank you.

**[03:03:08.460] Senator Sherwin "Win" T. Gatchalian** (asr-004392)  
Thank you for that.

**[03:03:09.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004393)  
Salamat din po, SP.

**[03:03:11.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004394)  
It looks like we will be ending earlier than expected.

**[03:03:15.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004395)  
So, pwedeng kung bigyan ng oras yung ating mga CSO representatives, resource persons.

**[03:03:24.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004396)  
Nandito, if you'd like to take around two minutes each para i-raise yung major na mga follow-up questions nyo

**[03:03:32.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004397)  
at yung maaring maging subject na mga proposed amendments nyo patungo sa plenary.

**[03:03:38.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004398)  
So, sino pong gustong magsalita?

**[03:03:40.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004399)  
Ms. Gina, okay, para sa samahan ng nagkakaisang pamilya ng Pantawid.

**[03:03:47.300] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004400)  
Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair.

**[03:03:49.300] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004401)  
Sa lahat pong mga nandito, especially at the SWD.

**[03:03:53.180] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004402)  
Siyempre po.

**[03:03:54.060] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004403)  
So, ang major concern po ng samahan ng nagkakaisang pamilya ng Pantawid is the budget cut

**[03:03:58.440] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004404)  
na nangyari po sa ating programa ng 4P.

**[03:04:01.660] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004405)  
So, kami po ay may mga observation from 2022 up to the present.

**[03:04:07.900] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004406)  
Yung mga budget cut po ay talaga nagkakaroon ng implication sa program.

**[03:04:12.520] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004407)  
Of course, talaga kinakong-gratulate din naman namin si Secretary Rex dahil sa mga troubleshooting na ginawa niya

**[03:04:18.360] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004408)  
at hearing those enhancements from the program ay talaga pong nagpapasalamat kami sa ano,

**[03:04:23.540] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004409)  
nakikita nating direksyon ng pagpapabuti ng programa.

**[03:04:27.580] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004410)  
So, balit, meron po kaming hinihiling, Madam Chair, lalong-lalong po sa version ng Senate para po sa budget ng 2027.

**[03:04:36.820] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004411)  
So, nung rinisenta po ng ating butihing sekretary yung NEP 2027 doon sa House of Representatives,

**[03:04:44.420] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004412)  
medyo nagkaroon po kami ng agam-agam.

**[03:04:46.880] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004413)  
Dahil, siyempre, kami po ay nagkaroon ng pulong last October 7 sa PSA

**[03:04:51.640] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004414)  
kung saan?

**[03:04:52.220] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004415)  
Yung issue po tungkol doon sa mga nasa listahan po, ng listahan ng 3 patungo doon sa CBMS

**[03:04:59.180] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004416)  
ay ito po yung klinaro namin sa PSA.

**[03:05:02.000] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004417)  
Dahil marami po tayo, may mga bilang pa po tayo ng mga pantawid, supposed to be mga pantawid na hindi po napasama doon sa CBMS

**[03:05:10.360] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004418)  
at sila po ay lumalapit sa samahan para po ito ay idulog po sa ating DSWD or sa ating mga mambabatas.

**[03:05:20.080] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004419)  
May mga bilang po ito, Madam Chair.

**[03:05:22.220] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004420)  
At sila po ay nahingian na po ng mga requirements.

**[03:05:25.580] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004421)  
Dahil po ang mga mahihirap nating kababayan ang kumuha po ng tatlong birth certificate para lamang po makapasok sa programa

**[03:05:32.080] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004422)  
ay napakalaki pong halaga nito.

**[03:05:34.480] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004423)  
Pagkuhan ng marriage contract, pamasahe papunta po sa pagkuhan ng card, certification from school

**[03:05:39.860] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004424)  
ay ito po yung ina-address namin kung bakit mahalaga po sa amin na makita yung bilang ng mga na-archive nating mga kababayan.

**[03:05:47.420] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004425)  
At syempre, yung problema po ng inclusion-exclusion sa programa

**[03:05:52.220] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004426)  
po ito na matugunan sapagkat marami po talaga basis sa qualified naman sila sa RA 11310 ay hindi po sila napapabilang.

**[03:06:01.380] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004427)  
At meron po naman mga hindi naman na kwalifikado ay nasa programa po at nabanggit ito ni Secretary kanina.

**[03:06:07.980] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004428)  
So ito po yung aming mga inilabi sa iba't ibang ahensya na makakatulong po sa ating mga kababayang mahirap.

**[03:06:13.900] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004429)  
Tama po kanina si SB no po at nakakatuwa po na merami pong graduate na mga pantawid.

**[03:06:22.220] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004430)  
So ito po yung mga mga household mula po sa programa.

**[03:06:24.140] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004431)  
Subalit hindi po ito tumutukoy doon sa mga mga mga kababayan pa natin na mahihirap dahil galing na rin po sa PSA.

**[03:06:32.180] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004432)  
Meron pa po tayong mga kababayan na 3.2 million na mga mahihirap at meron po tayong mga waiting list na mga mahihirap din na supposed to be ay mapabilang po sa programa o makapaloob sa programa.

**[03:06:43.960] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004433)  
Kung nakikita po natin na ang four-piece program po ay isang instrumento na talaga pong nakakapag-alleviate sa ating mga kababayan.

**[03:06:52.220] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004434)  
So doon sa pag-aaral ng World Bank, 2.2 million household po ay nakapagpaangat sa ating mga kababayan mula sa kahirapan.

**[03:07:00.240] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004435)  
Nawa po ay marinig po ng ating mga senador, madam chair, senate president, ang aming pong pagdulog na panatilihin ang budget para po doon sa pagpapanatili ng 4.4 million na mga household na makapasok po sa ating pantawid program.

**[03:07:19.100] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004436)  
Sapagkat mahalaga po sa amin ang bilang.

**[03:07:22.220] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004437)  
Kukunti man ito pero ang tinitignan po natin ay yung mga kabataan na talaga pong ma-address yung kanilang pag-aaral.

**[03:07:30.860] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004438)  
At salamat sekretary, nakita namin doon sa inyo pong mga nabanggit kanina na yung tertiary education po ay talagang ito po yung major concern ng ating mga exiting mga pantawid beneficiary.

**[03:07:42.880] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004439)  
At sa paunti-unti po sana sa direction ng ating four-piece program sa mga susunod pong taon ay ito po talaga yung matugunan.

**[03:07:49.880] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004440)  
So marami po kami mga idinulog na mga recommendation tungkol po sa tertiary education at livelihood.

**[03:07:57.140] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004441)  
Ito po sana, itong mga convergence na tulong ng ating mga ahensya, nawa po pag-materialize po ito sa mga susunod na taon para po hindi na po talaga bumalik sa kahirapan yung mga nag-exit na ating mga kababayan.

**[03:08:10.800] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004442)  
So tama po, makagraduate lamang po ang isa sa ating mga monitored child sa program at makapag-kolehyo.

**[03:08:17.980] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004443)  
Malaking tulong po yan sa mga pamilya.

**[03:08:19.880] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004444)  
Sa kanila pong pamilya para po tuluyan po silang makagraduate sa pantawid.

**[03:08:24.540] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004445)  
At ito naman po ang ating dream para po sa mga susunod pong taon na marami pa pong four-piece na makagraduate na talaga pong nakuha natin yung objective ng program na sila po ay hindi na magpa-backslide at nakatawid po talaga sa kahirapan.

**[03:08:39.720] Jeana Catacio** (asr-004446)  
Maraming salamat sa opportunity, Madam Chair.

**[03:08:42.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004447)  
Maraming salamat din po, Ms. Gina.

**[03:08:44.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004448)  
Secrex, gusto nyo bang pagunan initially yung mga idinulog na sa...

**[03:08:47.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004449)  
Madam Chair, si Jenna lagi yan sa office ko.

**[03:08:49.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004450)  
Suki yan.

**[03:08:51.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004451)  
And her group.

**[03:08:52.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004452)  
And they're very helpful in trying to tell me kung ano ho yung nangyayari sa ground.

**[03:08:56.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004453)  
Ang gusto ko lang ho una i-assure ang mga nakikinig na mga four-piece na yung pagbawa sa budget this year, hindi ho siya tulad, magiging epekto tulad noon na naghabol tayo.

**[03:09:06.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004454)  
Kung matatandaan nyo, di ba meron tayong pagtitipo na nung, I forgot that was 2025, na yung budget cut was severe, nag-worry talaga sila.

**[03:09:17.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004455)  
Pero ang gusto ko lang i-report naman na...

**[03:09:19.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004456)  
Nahabol ho yun.

**[03:09:20.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004457)  
Binigyan kami ng augmentation na ibalik yun.

**[03:09:23.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004458)  
Pero syempre yung pangamba, yun yung iniiwasan natin.

**[03:09:26.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004459)  
This year, yung budget cut ho, hindi naman ho [unclear] out of no rational.

**[03:09:33.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004460)  
Kundi dahil lumiit na ho yung catchment natin to 3.5 million households or families, ma-excess na ho siya.

**[03:09:41.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004461)  
So hindi ho naman ho makakompromise yung programa.

**[03:09:44.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004462)  
Yun ang ina-assure ko sa kanila.

**[03:09:46.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004463)  
Alam ko saan ang gagaling si Jenna dahil yung original na mga cut nangamba talaga sila.

**[03:09:49.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004464)  
But yung cut ngayon is brought about by data na 3.5 na lang kami.

**[03:09:53.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004465)  
So talagang niliitan.

**[03:09:55.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004466)  
Pero tulad rin ang napaliwanag ko kanina, hindi naman magkakaroon ng decline sa quality ng programa.

**[03:10:02.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004467)  
Bagamat marami pang enhancements.

**[03:10:04.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004468)  
Katulad nga yung ilo-launch natin ngayon this year na ESSI.

**[03:10:08.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004469)  
Alam nila yung ESSI, yun yung kune-kwento ko kanina.

**[03:10:10.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004470)  
Dati yung ESSI kasi marami ho siyang laman.

**[03:10:13.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004471)  
Pero ngayon, we just focused on the monitored children.

**[03:10:16.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004472)  
So this December, we're launching it.

**[03:10:18.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004473)  
Yun yung kune-kwento ko.

**[03:10:19.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004474)  
Tuloy.

**[03:10:19.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004475)  
Tuloy kolehyo, tuloy aral, tuloy trabaho.

**[03:10:22.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004476)  
Whether tech voc man yan or academic man yan, tutulungan natin yung kanila mga monitored children.

**[03:10:31.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004477)  
Yun ho ang assurance ko sa ating mga civil society, sa ating group na SNP.

**[03:10:38.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004478)  
Huwag kayong mag-worry na yung budget cut this time hindi arbitrary.

**[03:10:42.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004479)  
Kung hindi, this is driven by the data na lumiit ho tayo.

**[03:10:46.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004480)  
Walang magsasuffer sa services.

**[03:10:48.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004481)  
In fact,

**[03:10:48.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004482)  
na-regularize pa yung mga links natin.

**[03:10:51.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004483)  
Tapos, makailan lang, kahapon lang,

**[03:10:53.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004484)  
binigyan kami ng balita ng ating BBM na dadagdag pa yung mga SWA o Social Welfare Assistant.

**[03:10:58.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004485)  
So, from a ratio of 500, no?

**[03:11:01.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004486)  
1,000.

**[03:11:01.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004487)  
So, naging 1 is to 500.

**[03:11:03.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004488)  
Ngayon kasi yung Social Welfare Assistant, from 1 is to 1,000 families,

**[03:11:06.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004489)  
ngayon magiging 1 is to 500 na lang.

**[03:11:09.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004490)  
So, ibig sabihin talaga matututukan na mabuti yung case management

**[03:11:13.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004491)  
para talaga yung karapat dapat lang ang nasa programa

**[03:11:16.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004492)  
at yung mga pwede na natin pag-graduate.

**[03:11:18.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004493)  
Ay, pwede.

**[03:11:18.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004494)  
Pwede na natin pag-graduate.

**[03:11:20.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004495)  
Salamat, Secrex.

**[03:11:21.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004496)  
Siguro, moving forward, papunta sa plenary,

**[03:11:24.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004497)  
pwede pa natin i-stretch ng konti.

**[03:11:27.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004498)  
I remember nung briefings natin,

**[03:11:28.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004499)  
nabanggit nyo na may buffer din kayong pinag-iisipan.

**[03:11:31.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004500)  
So, baka doon natin pwedeng ma-work out yung

**[03:11:33.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004501)  
idinudulog pang balansin ng mga 900,000 families.

**[03:11:36.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004502)  
Madam Chairman, Jenna, we can sit down.

**[03:11:40.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004503)  
From 450,000, nababa na ho namin yan to 59,000.

**[03:11:45.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004504)  
Nahanap na namin yung mga iba.

**[03:11:46.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004505)  
Ang pamamaraan ho niyan is,

**[03:11:48.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004506)  
from 434,000, naging 59,000 na lang

**[03:11:54.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004507)  
and tatapusin ho namin i-locate sila with PSA within the year

**[03:11:58.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004508)  
or in fact, within the next 45 days.

**[03:12:02.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004509)  
Ang naging sistema ho kasi, kung wala sila sa CBMS,

**[03:12:06.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004510)  
ginawa namin yung mga names na nasa listahanan,

**[03:12:09.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004511)  
pati na rin yung mga on-demand,

**[03:12:10.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004512)  
yung mga galing sa mga LGU na mahihirap,

**[03:12:13.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004513)  
kasi wala sila sa CBMS eh.

**[03:12:14.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004514)  
Tapos, vinalidate na lang parehas namin ng PSA.

**[03:12:18.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004515)  
Kasi,

**[03:12:18.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004516)  
we have to remember,

**[03:12:20.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004517)  
the law of 4Ps is clearly defined as a targeting tool

**[03:12:23.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004518)  
na hindi kami pwede mag-enroll kung wala sila doon sa most current targeting tool.

**[03:12:28.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004519)  
So, pumayak naman yung PSA na,

**[03:12:31.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004520)  
kumbaga, it's an addendum to the CBMS na on-demand.

**[03:12:34.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004521)  
Hinanap namin itong 434,069

**[03:12:37.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004522)  
nahanap na namin yung iba sa kanila,

**[03:12:40.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004523)  
kaya nga pumapaan na to 59,000

**[03:12:42.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004524)  
at patuloy nating hahanapin.

**[03:12:43.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004525)  
Bottom line, we will leave no family unfound.

**[03:12:47.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004526)  
Great.

**[03:12:48.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004527)  
I second that motion.

**[03:12:52.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004528)  
Bago magsalita pa yung ibang CSOs,

**[03:12:55.400] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004529)  
kung gustong magsalita,

**[03:12:57.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004530)  
i-recognize muna ng chair,

**[03:12:59.900] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004531)  
Senator Aimee, for your second round.

**[03:13:02.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004532)  
Ay, pasensya.

**[03:13:03.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004533)  
Kasi nandun kami sa agriculture, katatapos lang po.

**[03:13:05.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004534)  
So, the 2027 budget allocates an amount of 900 million to Tarabasa,

**[03:13:12.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004535)  
while the DPED is also implementing a very similar program called Aral Program.

**[03:13:17.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004536)  
Aral Program.

**[03:13:17.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004537)  
Under RA 12028, yung academic recovery,

**[03:13:23.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004538)  
how does one differ from the other?

**[03:13:26.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004539)  
Are there different benchmarks?

**[03:13:28.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004540)  
Is there a duplication of activities?

**[03:13:30.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004541)  
Kasi parang yun ang intindi ng lahat tungkol sa coverage,

**[03:13:33.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004542)  
target beneficiaries, performance indicators.

**[03:13:37.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004543)  
At nagko-coordinate ba kayo ng DPED?

**[03:13:40.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004544)  
Kasi parang sapaw-sapaw naman yung dalawang programa.

**[03:13:43.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004545)  
Sir, this is under a memorandum of agreement with DPED.

**[03:13:46.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004546)  
Ang,

**[03:13:47.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004547)  
nangyari ho dito,

**[03:13:48.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004548)  
DPED is the one that makes the target list na mga batang tuturuan.

**[03:13:52.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004549)  
They're normally grade 2 lang.

**[03:13:53.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004550)  
Pero ang paradigm ho kasi namin dito,

**[03:13:55.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004551)  
grade 2 lang ho yung tinuturuan ng mga para-tutors namin.

**[03:13:59.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004552)  
Now, ang paradigm ho kasi namin dito is to try to reformat social welfare.

**[03:14:04.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004553)  
Noon kasi in educ assistance, bibigay mo lang, tapos na.

**[03:14:07.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004554)  
Pero ngayon, kinonvert natin na pag gusto mo,

**[03:14:09.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004555)  
halimbawa, meron ho tayong college student na nahihirapan makapagbayad ng matrikula,

**[03:14:14.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004556)  
kesa ibigay na lang natin outright yung cash.

**[03:14:17.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004557)  
They earn it through a cash-for-work program.

**[03:14:20.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004558)  
So, the tarapasa is not, our lente doon, our lens is not literacy,

**[03:14:25.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004559)  
but rather how to help our poor college students graduate out,

**[03:14:28.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004560)  
but they earn their keep.

**[03:14:30.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004561)  
Teka, I'm a bit confused.

**[03:14:31.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004562)  
So, the teacher is the college student

**[03:14:33.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004563)  
Correct.

**[03:14:34.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004564)  
who needs additional income,

**[03:14:36.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004565)  
and the student is the grade 2?

**[03:14:40.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004566)  
Tama ba?

**[03:14:40.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004567)  
Correct, madam. Madam Chair, that is correct.

**[03:14:43.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004568)  
At yung pumipili ng grade 2 ay yung DPED.

**[03:14:46.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004569)  
Pero, yung pumipili ng college student, sino?

**[03:14:49.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004570)  
We get them from the suks and the luks.

**[03:14:52.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004571)  
I see. I see.

**[03:14:54.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004572)  
So, yung peho namin doon is the cash-for-work

**[03:14:56.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004573)  
para dahan-dahan ma-reformat natin na conditional na ho sana

**[03:15:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004574)  
sana ang tulong natin.

**[03:15:01.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004575)  
Lalong na na,

**[03:15:02.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004576)  
these college students

**[03:15:03.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004577)  
can learn na

**[03:15:04.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004578)  
ang social welfare

**[03:15:04.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004579)  
can be conditional also.

**[03:15:06.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004580)  
I see.

**[03:15:06.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004581)  
So, in the meantime,

**[03:15:09.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004582)  
yung DepEd na aral,

**[03:15:11.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004583)  
paano naman yun?

**[03:15:11.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004584)  
It's complementary to each other.

**[03:15:13.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004585)  
In fact, Madam Chair,

**[03:15:14.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004586)  
sila nag-identify...

**[03:15:15.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004587)  
So, yung aral,

**[03:15:16.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004588)  
yung grade 2 yun?

**[03:15:17.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004589)  
No, ma'am, yung aral...

**[03:15:19.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004590)  
Saan napupunta yung perang

**[03:15:22.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004591)  
900 million,

**[03:15:23.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004592)  
halos 1 billion?

**[03:15:24.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004593)  
Yeah.

**[03:15:24.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004594)  
That becomes the wages

**[03:15:25.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004595)  
of the cash for work

**[03:15:27.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004596)  
ng mga tutors.

**[03:15:28.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004597)  
Yung mga tutors natin...

**[03:15:30.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004598)  
Yes, the college students.

**[03:15:32.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004599)  
And then,

**[03:15:33.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004600)  
itong mga grade 2 beneficiaries

**[03:15:36.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004601)  
and their parents

**[03:15:37.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004602)  
are identified by DepEd

**[03:15:39.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004603)  
para hindi na hunila...

**[03:15:41.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004604)  
Ito talaga yung mga non-readers

**[03:15:42.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004605)  
at frustrated readers

**[03:15:44.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004606)  
and chances are

**[03:15:45.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004607)  
hindi na nila pinapasok

**[03:15:46.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004608)  
sa aral yun

**[03:15:47.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004609)  
or talagang kailangan ng dalawa,

**[03:15:49.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004610)  
aral and tarabasa.

**[03:15:52.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004611)  
Number two,

**[03:15:52.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004612)  
our tarabasa...

**[03:15:53.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004613)  
Yung aral,

**[03:15:55.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004614)  
sino nagtuturo sa aral?

**[03:15:57.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004615)  
Sir, aral is a DepEd program

**[03:15:59.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004616)  
so I think...

**[03:16:00.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004617)  
I understand.

**[03:16:00.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004618)  
But who teaches?

**[03:16:01.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004619)  
I believe the teachers also teach.

**[03:16:03.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004620)  
Are they proper teachers?

**[03:16:05.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004621)  
Or are they para tutors?

**[03:16:06.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004622)  
From my recollection

**[03:16:07.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004623)  
when I was in Congress,

**[03:16:08.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004624)  
iba-iba ho.

**[03:16:09.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004625)  
May para tutor,

**[03:16:10.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004626)  
merong teachers,

**[03:16:12.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004627)  
para teachers,

**[03:16:13.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004628)  
pero kami ho,

**[03:16:14.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004629)  
college students lang.

**[03:16:15.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004630)  
Kasi kailangan namin ma-entend

**[03:16:17.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004631)  
kasi pag binasa mo,

**[03:16:19.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004632)  
halos pareho sila

**[03:16:20.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004633)  
at nagtatanong kami,

**[03:16:22.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004634)  
what's the coordination

**[03:16:23.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004635)  
and monitoring?

**[03:16:24.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004636)  
And furthermore,

**[03:16:25.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004637)  
finally,

**[03:16:26.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004638)  
since they're mentors,

**[03:16:27.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004639)  
to complement each other,

**[03:16:28.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004640)  
what's the evaluation

**[03:16:29.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004641)  
on all that?

**[03:16:30.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004642)  
Are the funds being used

**[03:16:31.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004643)  
efficiently

**[03:16:32.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004644)  
or dagdo doble-doble na?

**[03:16:34.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004645)  
Madam,

**[03:16:35.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004646)  
from my understanding,

**[03:16:36.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004647)  
wala naman hong compensation

**[03:16:37.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004648)  
sa aral dil.

**[03:16:38.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004649)  
It's pure volunteerism.

**[03:16:40.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004650)  
Well, sa amin,

**[03:16:41.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004651)  
we identified the poorest

**[03:16:42.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004652)  
students in college

**[03:16:43.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004653)  
so that kesa ibigay yung

**[03:16:44.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004654)  
cash outright,

**[03:16:45.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004655)  
tinagtatrabahuan nila.

**[03:16:47.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004656)  
Number two, ma'am.

**[03:16:47.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004657)  
Secrex,

**[03:16:48.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004658)  
before you continue

**[03:16:49.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004659)  
with the number two,

**[03:16:49.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004660)  
nag-quick research lang ako.

**[03:16:51.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004661)  
Apparently, Sen,

**[03:16:52.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004662)  
ay need dun sa aral

**[03:16:53.720] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004663)  
program ng DepEd.

**[03:16:54.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004664)  
Ang mga tutors

**[03:16:55.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004665)  
ay DepEd teachers

**[03:16:57.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004666)  
receiving teaching

**[03:16:59.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004667)  
overload pay

**[03:16:59.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004668)  
or service credits

**[03:17:00.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004669)  
plus mga let eligible

**[03:17:03.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004670)  
applicants,

**[03:17:04.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004671)  
pre-service teachers

**[03:17:06.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004672)  
and tama,

**[03:17:06.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-004673)  
para teachers.

**[03:17:07.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004674)  
Mga teachers, Sen.

**[03:17:08.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004675)  
Mga para teachers.

**[03:17:09.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004676)  
Well, sa Tarabasa,

**[03:17:10.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004677)  
it's just students talaga.

**[03:17:12.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004678)  
Ah?

**[03:17:12.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004679)  
Sa Tarabasa,

**[03:17:13.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004680)  
students lang ho.

**[03:17:14.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004681)  
Poor to college students.

**[03:17:16.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004682)  
Yun lang ang nagsututor.

**[03:17:18.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004683)  
Yung sa inyo?

**[03:17:19.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004684)  
Opo.

**[03:17:20.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004685)  
Hindi sila teachers?

**[03:17:21.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004686)  
Hindi po.

**[03:17:22.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004687)  
They're college students.

**[03:17:23.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004688)  
That's why grade two lang ho

**[03:17:24.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004689)  
kasi sabi nga ng DepEd,

**[03:17:25.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004690)  
baka yung proficiency,

**[03:17:26.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004691)  
mas kaya naman

**[03:17:27.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004692)  
ng college student,

**[03:17:28.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004693)  
turuan lang magbasa

**[03:17:29.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004694)  
ang grade two.

**[03:17:30.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004695)  
Beyond that,

**[03:17:31.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004696)  
it will require special skills

**[03:17:32.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004697)  
na maaring wala pa

**[03:17:33.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004698)  
yung students namin.

**[03:17:35.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004699)  
Do you have any

**[03:17:35.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004700)  
time-bound measures

**[03:17:37.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004701)  
on this experiment?

**[03:17:39.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004702)  
Yeah, Madam Chair,

**[03:17:40.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004703)  
number one,

**[03:17:40.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004704)  
I just...

**[03:17:41.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004705)  
How do you assess

**[03:17:42.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004706)  
the program's effectiveness?

**[03:17:43.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004707)  
Marami bang naturuan?

**[03:17:45.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004708)  
Yes.

**[03:17:45.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004709)  
Kasi billion din yan.

**[03:17:46.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004710)  
Yeah.

**[03:17:47.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004711)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:17:48.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004712)  
two things.

**[03:17:49.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004713)  
Ang gumagawa ho

**[03:17:50.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004714)  
ng assessment DepEd,

**[03:17:52.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004715)  
they're the ones

**[03:17:52.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004716)  
who also give us the results

**[03:17:53.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004717)  
kasi may pre-test yan

**[03:17:55.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004718)  
and post-test.

**[03:17:55.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004719)  
20 days lang po yan.

**[03:17:57.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004720)  
20 days for two hours.

**[03:17:59.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004721)  
It's like your

**[03:18:00.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004722)  
after-school learnings abroad.

**[03:18:01.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004723)  
Doon namin siya pinaturn.

**[03:18:03.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004724)  
So DepEd has given us

**[03:18:04.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004725)  
green flag so many times

**[03:18:06.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004726)  
and we will furnish you a copy.

**[03:18:07.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004727)  
In fact,

**[03:18:07.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004728)  
they were asking us

**[03:18:08.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004729)  
to continue it.

**[03:18:09.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004730)  
Ibig sabihin,

**[03:18:10.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004731)  
natuwa ho sila sa risulta

**[03:18:11.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004732)  
kasi sila rin nagpakita

**[03:18:12.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004733)  
sa amin ang risulta.

**[03:18:13.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004734)  
Ayaw ko naman

**[03:18:14.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004735)  
humagbuhat ng sariling bangko.

**[03:18:15.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004736)  
We will furnish you

**[03:18:16.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004737)  
the DepEd results

**[03:18:17.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004738)  
ng post-test

**[03:18:18.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004739)  
and pre-test

**[03:18:19.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004740)  
ng mga bata.

**[03:18:20.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004741)  
Generally,

**[03:18:21.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004742)  
a good majority,

**[03:18:22.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004743)  
almost 85 to 89 percent

**[03:18:24.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004744)  
of beneficiaries

**[03:18:25.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004745)  
move a notch higher

**[03:18:26.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004746)  
from non-reporting,

**[03:18:27.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004747)  
from non-reader

**[03:18:27.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004748)  
to frustrated reader,

**[03:18:29.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004749)  
frustrated reader

**[03:18:29.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004750)  
to instructional reader.

**[03:18:31.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004751)  
So agree.

**[03:18:31.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004752)  
Don't mistake me.

**[03:18:32.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004753)  
I'm a real proponent

**[03:18:34.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004754)  
for informal schooling

**[03:18:37.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004755)  
and para-tutors.

**[03:18:38.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004756)  
I'm a real proponent for that.

**[03:18:40.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004757)  
But it's also important

**[03:18:42.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004758)  
that we measure

**[03:18:44.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004759)  
in a time-bound manner

**[03:18:46.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004760)  
their accomplishment

**[03:18:47.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004761)  
kasi parang walang katapusan

**[03:18:48.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004762)  
at baka yung 20 days,

**[03:18:50.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004763)  
baka mag-lapse,

**[03:18:51.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004764)  
baka 60 days after,

**[03:18:53.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004765)  
iba na naman.

**[03:18:54.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004766)  
I'm sure it's only ran

**[03:18:55.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004767)  
once a year

**[03:18:56.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004768)  
every single day.

**[03:18:57.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004769)  
Parang summer job

**[03:18:59.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004770)  
ng mga bata.

**[03:19:00.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004771)  
Parang SPES.

**[03:19:01.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004772)  
Parang SPES, yes.

**[03:19:02.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004773)  
So ang nangyayari,

**[03:19:03.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004774)  
after 20 days,

**[03:19:04.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004775)  
wala na kaming pondo nun

**[03:19:05.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004776)  
kasi tapos na siya.

**[03:19:07.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004777)  
So next year na ho

**[03:19:08.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004778)  
tayo magkikita ulit.

**[03:19:09.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004779)  
Now, the target beneficiaries

**[03:19:11.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004780)  
na bata are grade 2

**[03:19:12.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004781)  
kasi iba na naman ulit

**[03:19:13.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004782)  
yung next year

**[03:19:14.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004783)  
that they will give us.

**[03:19:15.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004784)  
I see, I see.

**[03:19:16.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004785)  
Hindi, maraming na-intriga rin

**[03:19:18.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004786)  
dun sa demonstration ninyo

**[03:19:20.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004787)  
ng bucket-based

**[03:19:22.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004788)  
water filtration system

**[03:19:24.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004789)  
October 14.

**[03:19:25.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004790)  
Hindi ko alam

**[03:19:26.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004791)  
kung nasarapan kayo

**[03:19:27.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004792)  
kasi parang napaganong

**[03:19:28.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004793)  
kayo nung minsan.

**[03:19:30.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004794)  
Pero,

**[03:19:31.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004795)  
yung DSWD,

**[03:19:32.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004796)  
may plano ba

**[03:19:33.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004797)  
i-deploy

**[03:19:34.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004798)  
itong technology

**[03:19:35.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004799)  
sa iba't-ibang komunidad

**[03:19:36.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004800)  
that face

**[03:19:37.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004801)  
water shortages already?

**[03:19:39.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004802)  
And has the system

**[03:19:40.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004803)  
been in fact

**[03:19:41.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004804)  
tested and certified

**[03:19:42.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004805)  
by the health authorities

**[03:19:43.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004806)  
to make certain

**[03:19:45.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004807)  
that it's safe

**[03:19:46.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004808)  
and clean

**[03:19:46.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004809)  
for Filipinos

**[03:19:48.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004810)  
to consume?

**[03:19:50.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004811)  
I mean, aside from

**[03:19:50.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004812)  
the Secretary of DSWD

**[03:19:52.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004813)  
who put his life

**[03:19:53.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004814)  
at risk for all of us.

**[03:19:55.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004815)  
What's the plan?

**[03:19:56.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004816)  
How many people

**[03:19:56.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004817)  
are going to be

**[03:19:56.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004818)  
how many units

**[03:19:57.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004819)  
will be distributed?

**[03:19:58.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004820)  
Which communities

**[03:19:59.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004821)  
will be prioritized?

**[03:20:01.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004822)  
And what exactly

**[03:20:02.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004823)  
is the scientific basis

**[03:20:03.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004824)  
for this system?

**[03:20:05.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004825)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:20:06.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004826)  
if I only knew,

**[03:20:06.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004827)  
I would have brought one

**[03:20:07.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004828)  
and serve water

**[03:20:08.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004829)  
to everybody today.

**[03:20:09.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004830)  
Sayang.

**[03:20:11.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004831)  
Sa plenary,

**[03:20:12.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004832)  
sa asahan namin yan.

**[03:20:14.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004833)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:20:15.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004834)  
una po,

**[03:20:16.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004835)  
the technology is not new.

**[03:20:18.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004836)  
It's by,

**[03:20:18.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004837)  
this particular product

**[03:20:19.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004838)  
was procured

**[03:20:20.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004839)  
by the department

**[03:20:21.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004840)  
since I joined it.

**[03:20:23.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004841)  
Actually,

**[03:20:24.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004842)  
since 2023,

**[03:20:25.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004843)  
nasa budega na po

**[03:20:26.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004844)  
natin yan.

**[03:20:27.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004845)  
We use it during disasters.

**[03:20:28.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004846)  
Now, these pictures

**[03:20:29.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004847)  
were done in Batanes.

**[03:20:30.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004848)  
Tablets that you give away.

**[03:20:31.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004849)  
No, ma'am,

**[03:20:32.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004850)  
chlorine-based ko kasi yun.

**[03:20:33.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004851)  
Ito, filter-based lang ho to.

**[03:20:35.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004852)  
Membrane lang.

**[03:20:36.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004853)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:20:37.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004854)  
it's by a group.

**[03:20:38.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004855)  
Itong winning procurement

**[03:20:39.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004856)  
namin na nasa budega ngayon.

**[03:20:40.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004857)  
But obviously,

**[03:20:41.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004858)  
we'll have to undergo

**[03:20:42.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004859)  
another set of procurement.

**[03:20:43.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004860)  
Chlorine-based na pinamimigay dati.

**[03:20:45.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004861)  
Nagla-lapse din yun eh.

**[03:20:46.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004862)  
Nag-expire eh.

**[03:20:47.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004863)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:20:47.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004864)  
this is by a group

**[03:20:48.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004865)  
called Waves for Water.

**[03:20:49.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004866)  
Waves for Water

**[03:20:50.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004867)  
has been in the

**[03:20:51.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004868)  
worldwide sphere

**[03:20:52.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004869)  
for clean water.

**[03:20:53.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004870)  
Not just for disaster,

**[03:20:55.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004871)  
pati sa wash.

**[03:20:56.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004872)  
They operate in 44 countries.

**[03:20:58.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004873)  
They've done 3.7 million people.

**[03:21:00.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004874)  
No, I met them in

**[03:21:02.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004875)  
Typhoon Yolanda.

**[03:21:03.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004876)  
Correct.

**[03:21:04.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004877)  
They're all over

**[03:21:05.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004878)  
and they help with spring water.

**[03:21:06.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004879)  
In fact,

**[03:21:07.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004880)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:21:09.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004881)  
matagal na ito

**[03:21:10.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004882)  
nasa budega natin.

**[03:21:11.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004883)  
Hindi ho siya bago.

**[03:21:11.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004884)  
But we use it only for disasters.

**[03:21:14.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004885)  
Now, given that this is a disaster,

**[03:21:15.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004886)  
we plan to deploy it

**[03:21:16.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004887)  
in communities.

**[03:21:17.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004888)  
But not just

**[03:21:18.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004889)  
yung nakita nyo maliit.

**[03:21:19.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004890)  
The real sense of that

**[03:21:20.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004891)  
is meron silang malalaking community.

**[03:21:23.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004892)  
We can show you the picture.

**[03:21:24.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004893)  
Community,

**[03:21:25.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004894)  
water depots.

**[03:21:27.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004895)  
Pero inevitably,

**[03:21:28.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004896)  
there isn't enough, right?

**[03:21:29.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004897)  
So, sinong uunahin?

**[03:21:31.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004898)  
Ma'am,

**[03:21:31.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004899)  
ito ho yung community water depot.

**[03:21:33.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004900)  
Malalaki ho siya.

**[03:21:34.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004901)  
So, rain catcher talaga yan.

**[03:21:36.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004902)  
I was trying to put context

**[03:21:37.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004903)  
to the statement

**[03:21:38.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004904)  
of nung bumili ng balde.

**[03:21:40.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004905)  
Now, obviously,

**[03:21:41.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004906)  
when you save water,

**[03:21:42.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004907)  
you also have to make sure

**[03:21:43.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004908)  
na may purpose siya

**[03:21:45.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004909)  
when you reuse it.

**[03:21:45.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004910)  
Alam naman, tubig lang ho siya doon.

**[03:21:47.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004911)  
I'm sure that right after

**[03:21:49.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004912)  
there was a statement

**[03:21:51.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004913)  
regarding the collection

**[03:21:52.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004914)  
of rainwater,

**[03:21:53.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004915)  
agad-agad may lumaba.

**[03:21:55.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004916)  
Mula sa CIC yata,

**[03:21:58.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004917)  
yung mga infectious disease

**[03:21:59.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004918)  
na sinabi

**[03:22:00.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004919)  
na huwag mag-ongolekta

**[03:22:02.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004920)  
ng tubig ulan

**[03:22:03.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004921)  
pagkat napakadami ng pollutant

**[03:22:05.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004922)  
may radioactive pa sa environment.

**[03:22:08.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004923)  
Ano po mas...

**[03:22:08.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004924)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:22:09.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004925)  
again,

**[03:22:10.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004926)  
from my understanding there,

**[03:22:12.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004927)  
huwag gagamitin na diretsyo.

**[03:22:14.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004928)  
Pero pag finilter nyo,

**[03:22:15.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004929)  
maaring pwede na.

**[03:22:16.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004930)  
Now, this comes with a certification.

**[03:22:18.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004931)  
DOH issued a certification

**[03:22:20.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004932)  
way before

**[03:22:20.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004933)  
that it's considered

**[03:22:22.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004934)  
as a medical device.

**[03:22:23.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004935)  
The membrane,

**[03:22:25.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004936)  
it can filter

**[03:22:25.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004937)  
up until 0.1 microd.

**[03:22:28.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004938)  
It can remove bacteria,

**[03:22:30.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004939)  
not virus.

**[03:22:31.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004940)  
We never said virus,

**[03:22:32.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004941)  
bacteria.

**[03:22:33.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004942)  
So, yung mga amoeba

**[03:22:34.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004943)  
and clearly,

**[03:22:35.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004944)  
nandito pa ho ako.

**[03:22:35.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004945)  
Hindi rin naman ho ako

**[03:22:36.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004946)  
tinubuan ng buntot.

**[03:22:37.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004947)  
So, okay pa ho ako.

**[03:22:40.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004948)  
Siyang baso lang

**[03:22:41.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004949)  
ang ininom mo.

**[03:22:42.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004950)  
No, may succeeding...

**[03:22:43.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004951)  
Lahati pa nga eh.

**[03:22:44.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004952)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:22:45.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004953)  
may succeeding demo

**[03:22:45.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004954)  
live selling pa ho yun.

**[03:22:47.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004955)  
May succeeding demo pa ho yun.

**[03:22:50.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004956)  
The department will

**[03:22:52.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004957)  
send a copy

**[03:22:54.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004958)  
of the DOH

**[03:22:55.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004959)  
certification

**[03:22:55.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004960)  
for the members

**[03:22:57.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004961)  
per suwal

**[03:22:57.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004962)  
as well as the water...

**[03:22:58.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004963)  
Kasi yung ibang communities

**[03:23:00.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004964)  
talagang nag-aalala

**[03:23:02.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004965)  
kung saan sila

**[03:23:02.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004966)  
kukuha ng tubig.

**[03:23:03.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004967)  
Sino-sino ang bibigyan

**[03:23:04.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004968)  
una?

**[03:23:05.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004969)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:23:06.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004970)  
this is one of the many things

**[03:23:08.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004971)  
that pinakita namin.

**[03:23:09.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004972)  
If the Chair would allow me,

**[03:23:11.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004973)  
we can flash again

**[03:23:11.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004974)  
the other interventions.

**[03:23:14.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004975)  
But this one in particular

**[03:23:15.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004976)  
will be deployed

**[03:23:16.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004977)  
in high-density areas

**[03:23:17.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004978)  
na maaring mag-suffer ka agad

**[03:23:20.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004979)  
ng waterless,

**[03:23:21.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004980)  
mahinang water pressure.

**[03:23:23.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004981)  
But this is not

**[03:23:24.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004982)  
the only one.

**[03:23:25.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004983)  
Marami ho kaming intervention

**[03:23:26.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004984)  
na nilatag

**[03:23:27.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004985)  
katulad ng MWSI.

**[03:23:28.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004986)  
Meron rin ho sila.

**[03:23:29.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004987)  
Pero kung sa laman

**[03:23:31.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004988)  
ng NEP

**[03:23:32.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004989)  
or ng GAB,

**[03:23:33.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004990)  
sa budget ninyo

**[03:23:34.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004991)  
na may allocation

**[03:23:35.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004992)  
for procurement nito

**[03:23:36.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004993)  
for distribution,

**[03:23:38.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004994)  
monitoring,

**[03:23:38.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004995)  
evaluation,

**[03:23:40.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004996)  
wala siyang presence,

**[03:23:41.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004997)  
wala siyang line item

**[03:23:43.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-004998)  
sa budget.

**[03:23:43.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-004999)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:23:44.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005000)  
it's drawn from

**[03:23:44.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005001)  
the Quick Response Fund.

**[03:23:46.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005002)  
RF lang to.

**[03:23:47.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005003)  
Yes, doon lang ko siya.

**[03:23:48.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005004)  
In fact,

**[03:23:48.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005005)  
dinagdaga naman

**[03:23:49.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005006)  
ng 2 million yata

**[03:23:51.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005007)  
sa RF.

**[03:23:52.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005008)  
Kasi from 1.2

**[03:23:53.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005009)  
binalect to 3.

**[03:23:54.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005010)  
Yeah.

**[03:23:54.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005011)  
So, pino-procure yan

**[03:23:55.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005012)  
kasama ng mga other kits natin.

**[03:23:58.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005013)  
Non-food items,

**[03:23:59.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005014)  
sanitary yung mga

**[03:24:01.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005015)  
hygiene buckets natin.

**[03:24:02.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005016)  
Kasama ho siya the kits.

**[03:24:04.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005017)  
I see, I see.

**[03:24:05.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005018)  
Okay.

**[03:24:06.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005019)  
Siguro yung last tanong ko

**[03:24:07.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005020)  
na lang yung sa COA.

**[03:24:08.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005021)  
Kasi,

**[03:24:09.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005022)  
ang dami pa rin

**[03:24:10.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005023)  
unadjusted accounting deficiencies

**[03:24:12.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005024)  
nasa halos 1 billion.

**[03:24:15.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005025)  
Ah, hindi.

**[03:24:15.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005026)  
Mali.

**[03:24:16.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005027)  
Nasa accounting deficiencies

**[03:24:18.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005028)  
totaling 8.185 billion.

**[03:24:22.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005029)  
Pagkalaki-laki

**[03:24:23.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005030)  
kaya parating

**[03:24:23.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005031)  
parating.

**[03:24:24.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005032)  
Ang nasisita.

**[03:24:26.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005033)  
Paano ba yun?

**[03:24:27.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005034)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:24:28.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005035)  
we first of all

**[03:24:28.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005036)  
hired more accounting staff

**[03:24:30.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005037)  
kasi undermanned ho kami dyan.

**[03:24:31.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005038)  
That's why nalilate,

**[03:24:32.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005039)  
nadidilay.

**[03:24:33.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005040)  
May unliquidated kayo

**[03:24:34.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005041)  
na halos 5B.

**[03:24:36.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005042)  
Ah.

**[03:24:36.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005043)  
Andami niyong COA issues eh.

**[03:24:38.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005044)  
Paano ba yan?

**[03:24:41.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005045)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:24:42.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005046)  
it's being addressed.

**[03:24:43.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005047)  
First of all,

**[03:24:43.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005048)  
dun sa accounting adjustments.

**[03:24:45.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005049)  
Minsan nadidilay lang

**[03:24:46.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005050)  
but they're done.

**[03:24:47.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005051)  
They're complied with.

**[03:24:49.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005052)  
Pangalawa,

**[03:24:49.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005053)  
yung unliquidated,

**[03:24:50.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005054)  
they are also

**[03:24:51.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005055)  
hinahabol rin ho yun.

**[03:24:52.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005056)  
Sometimes,

**[03:24:53.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005057)  
ang hudyat lang talaga

**[03:24:53.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005058)  
ng napakarami

**[03:24:54.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005059)  
nilang payouts

**[03:24:55.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005060)  
na ginagawa

**[03:24:56.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005061)  
or napakaraming sabaho.

**[03:24:57.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005062)  
Pero,

**[03:24:57.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005063)  
dito,

**[03:24:59.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005064)  
eh yung mga

**[03:24:59.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005065)  
aged accounts,

**[03:25:01.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005066)  
hindi daw yung mga

**[03:25:02.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005067)  
bagong payout.

**[03:25:03.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005068)  
Eto yung mga dati

**[03:25:04.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005069)  
pang namanan

**[03:25:05.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005070)  
ng iba't-ibang

**[03:25:06.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005071)  
sekretary.

**[03:25:07.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005072)  
Madam,

**[03:25:07.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005073)  
marami dun yung mga

**[03:25:08.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005074)  
PDAF related.

**[03:25:10.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005075)  
That's right.

**[03:25:10.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005076)  
And will require

**[03:25:11.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005077)  
a lot of legal

**[03:25:12.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005078)  
untangling

**[03:25:12.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005079)  
to get them.

**[03:25:14.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005080)  
They're pending

**[03:25:15.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005081)  
courts.

**[03:25:17.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005082)  
Tapos,

**[03:25:17.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005083)  
hindi rin ho namin

**[03:25:18.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005084)  
ma-write off yung iba

**[03:25:19.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005085)  
dahil wala pa sa

**[03:25:20.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005086)  
maturity date

**[03:25:20.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005087)  
of us being allowed

**[03:25:21.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005088)  
them to write off,

**[03:25:22.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005089)  
be written off.

**[03:25:24.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005090)  
So,

**[03:25:24.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005091)  
ang dami po ninyo

**[03:25:25.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005092)  
nito.

**[03:25:26.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005093)  
At saka may,

**[03:25:27.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005094)  
ngayon,

**[03:25:28.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005095)  
naging 54 billion

**[03:25:30.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005096)  
yung AICs.

**[03:25:31.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005097)  
Pero,

**[03:25:31.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005098)  
may duplicate,

**[03:25:32.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005099)  
multiple,

**[03:25:33.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005100)  
overlapping AICs

**[03:25:35.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005101)  
sa COA report ninyo

**[03:25:36.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005102)  
na halos 400 million

**[03:25:38.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005103)  
din.

**[03:25:38.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005104)  
Maraming talagang

**[03:25:39.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005105)  
katanungan

**[03:25:40.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005106)  
sa accounting ninyo.

**[03:25:42.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005107)  
Madam,

**[03:25:42.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005108)  
as mentioned a while ago,

**[03:25:44.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005109)  
in-explain namin

**[03:25:45.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005110)  
sa COA yan

**[03:25:45.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005111)  
na hindi duplicates yan

**[03:25:46.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005112)  
kundi,

**[03:25:47.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005113)  
katulad nung dati,

**[03:25:48.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005114)  
let's say,

**[03:25:49.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005115)  
lumapit sa amin

**[03:25:49.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005116)  
burial assistant,

**[03:25:51.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005117)  
ah, medical,

**[03:25:51.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005118)  
eh namatay ho,

**[03:25:52.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005119)  
naging burial.

**[03:25:53.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005120)  
They counted that

**[03:25:54.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005121)  
as a duplicate.

**[03:25:54.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005122)  
But, we're telling them,

**[03:25:55.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005123)  
sa aming guidelines,

**[03:25:56.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005124)  
pwede yun kasi magkaibang

**[03:25:57.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005125)  
service yung inavail nila.

**[03:25:59.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005126)  
Such a large increase

**[03:26:00.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005127)  
when, in fact,

**[03:26:01.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005128)  
you have so many

**[03:26:02.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005129)  
accounts payable

**[03:26:03.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005130)  
from the past.

**[03:26:04.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005131)  
Can you give us

**[03:26:05.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005132)  
an update on this

**[03:26:06.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005133)  
AICs payment?

**[03:26:07.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005134)  
Yeah.

**[03:26:10.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005135)  
Paano dadagdagan

**[03:26:11.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005136)  
ng pagkalaki-laki

**[03:26:12.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005137)  
yung AICs?

**[03:26:12.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005138)  
Eh, may

**[03:26:13.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005139)  
utang pala

**[03:26:14.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005140)  
sa COA ito?

**[03:26:15.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005141)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:26:16.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005142)  
yan ho yung

**[03:26:16.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005143)  
bina-validate right now.

**[03:26:19.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005144)  
Ang naging usapan

**[03:26:20.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005145)  
ho namin ng COA

**[03:26:21.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005146)  
because they took

**[03:26:22.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005147)  
a response na

**[03:26:23.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005148)  
we justified

**[03:26:24.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005149)  
it.

**[03:26:24.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005150)  
We did it one by one

**[03:26:25.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005151)  
na hindi yan duplicate,

**[03:26:26.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005152)  
hindi yan double dipping.

**[03:26:28.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005153)  
Ang inetrasan ho kami

**[03:26:29.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005154)  
ng COA

**[03:26:29.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005155)  
to do validation

**[03:26:30.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005156)  
and to make sure

**[03:26:31.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005157)  
na itong mga account na to

**[03:26:32.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005158)  
ay masettle namin

**[03:26:33.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005159)  
by December 2026.

**[03:26:35.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005160)  
They are also doing

**[03:26:36.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005161)  
their own parallel

**[03:26:37.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005162)  
validation

**[03:26:38.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005163)  
that will come to

**[03:26:39.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005164)  
a forecome

**[03:26:39.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005165)  
December 2026.

**[03:26:41.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005166)  
So, I'm sure

**[03:26:41.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005167)  
you're aware

**[03:26:42.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005168)  
of your COA report

**[03:26:43.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005169)  
and all the deficiencies

**[03:26:45.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005170)  
cited therein,

**[03:26:46.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005171)  
yung pag-abot,

**[03:26:47.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005172)  
financial assistance,

**[03:26:49.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005173)  
na halos walang

**[03:26:49.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005174)  
documentation.

**[03:26:51.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005175)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:26:51.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005176)  
that has been addressed.

**[03:26:52.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005177)  
We've submitted

**[03:26:52.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005178)  
the documents

**[03:26:53.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005179)  
na alistasyon.

**[03:26:54.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005180)  
Date, eto rin

**[03:26:55.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005181)  
yung delisting,

**[03:26:56.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005182)  
mistaken and delayed

**[03:26:57.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005183)  
delisting of four piece.

**[03:27:00.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005184)  
Alam natin yan

**[03:27:00.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005185)  
that's 2,000 plus

**[03:27:02.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005186)  
households, ano.

**[03:27:03.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005187)  
Tapos yung cash cards

**[03:27:04.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005188)  
na hindi na pamigay.

**[03:27:05.980] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005189)  
Ano ba yung story?

**[03:27:06.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005190)  
Malaki siya yun.

**[03:27:07.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005191)  
600,000.

**[03:27:07.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005192)  
Pero nakilira.

**[03:27:10.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005193)  
Bakit undistributed?

**[03:27:14.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005194)  
Tapos binalik na lang

**[03:27:15.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005195)  
sa treasury.

**[03:27:16.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005196)  
Basta pa nagkaganon.

**[03:27:19.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005197)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:27:19.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005198)  
dalawang separate issue

**[03:27:21.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005199)  
yung binalik sa

**[03:27:22.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005200)  
sa

**[03:27:23.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005201)  
undistributed

**[03:27:24.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005202)  
at

**[03:27:24.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005203)  
atsaka yung binalik.

**[03:27:26.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005204)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:27:26.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005205)  
when I joined the department,

**[03:27:27.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005206)  
meron dating program

**[03:27:28.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005207)  
may unqualified

**[03:27:30.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005208)  
unconditional cash transfer.

**[03:27:32.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005209)  
Nadatnan ko na lang

**[03:27:33.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005210)  
huyon

**[03:27:33.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005211)  
sa train law

**[03:27:35.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005212)  
kasama yun.

**[03:27:36.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005213)  
Nahirapan sila

**[03:27:37.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005214)  
at that time

**[03:27:37.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005215)  
i-distribute.

**[03:27:38.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005216)  
Tutuot siya.

**[03:27:39.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005217)  
Pareho lang ng AICS yun.

**[03:27:40.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005218)  
Unconditional din.

**[03:27:41.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005219)  
Yes, pero yun

**[03:27:42.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005220)  
meron kasi silang

**[03:27:45.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005221)  
beneficiary cash cards

**[03:27:47.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005222)  
na hindi nila mahanap

**[03:27:48.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005223)  
yung mga beneficiary

**[03:27:49.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005224)  
or hindi kinukuha

**[03:27:50.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005225)  
yung cash card.

**[03:27:52.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005226)  
Kaya,

**[03:27:52.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005227)  
namanan na lang ninyo yun.

**[03:27:54.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005228)  
Yes.

**[03:27:54.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005229)  
So,

**[03:27:55.680] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005230)  
out of the 617 million.

**[03:28:05.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005231)  
Madam,

**[03:28:06.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005232)  
na ang natira na lang

**[03:28:07.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005233)  
hujan,

**[03:28:07.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005234)  
600 million.

**[03:28:09.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005235)  
We wrote a demand letter

**[03:28:10.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005236)  
to land bank already.

**[03:28:12.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005237)  
Yes.

**[03:28:12.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005238)  
We told land bank

**[03:28:14.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005239)  
to surrender it to us

**[03:28:15.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005240)  
so we can bring it back

**[03:28:16.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005241)  
to treasury already.

**[03:28:18.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005242)  
And,

**[03:28:18.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005243)  
perhaps,

**[03:28:19.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005244)  
the last important item

**[03:28:21.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005245)  
in your core report,

**[03:28:22.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005246)  
which is really

**[03:28:22.940] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005247)  
very, very

**[03:28:23.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005248)  
confusing

**[03:28:24.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005249)  
meron

**[03:28:25.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005250)  
unutilized social pension funds

**[03:28:27.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005251)  
and delays in returning funds

**[03:28:29.960] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005252)  
nasa 20 million halos

**[03:28:31.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005253)  
for the qualified

**[03:28:33.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005254)  
indigent senior citizen.

**[03:28:36.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005255)  
Bakit may ganun?

**[03:28:37.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005256)  
Wala nang nang nababayaran eh.

**[03:28:39.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005257)  
Meron yung hindi nabibigyan.

**[03:28:40.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005258)  
Madam, sir,

**[03:28:40.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005259)  
let me look into that

**[03:28:42.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005260)  
because

**[03:28:42.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005261)  
fully obligated yung

**[03:28:44.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005262)  
social pension fund namin eh.

**[03:28:46.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005263)  
Unutilized social pension.

**[03:28:48.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005264)  
Nandito sa COA report

**[03:28:49.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005265)  
na nabigay sa amin eh.

**[03:28:52.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005266)  
Ma'am,

**[03:28:53.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005267)  
yeah.

**[03:28:53.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005268)  
Ma'am,

**[03:28:54.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005269)  
kasi alam ko,

**[03:28:55.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005270)  
kulang ang pera.

**[03:28:56.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005271)  
Bakit na delay?

**[03:28:57.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005272)  
Hindi daw nabigay.

**[03:28:58.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005273)  
Madam, sir,

**[03:28:59.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005274)  
madam, sir,

**[03:29:01.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005275)  
the good senator pointed out

**[03:29:02.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005276)  
na pag nagpe-payout ho,

**[03:29:04.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005277)  
minsan hindi talaga

**[03:29:04.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005278)  
dumadating na yung matanda.

**[03:29:06.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005279)  
So,

**[03:29:07.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005280)  
that's why may 20 million

**[03:29:08.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005281)  
na residual

**[03:29:08.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005282)  
compared to its total budget.

**[03:29:10.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005283)  
So, which means,

**[03:29:11.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005284)  
may system kami

**[03:29:12.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005285)  
in making sure na

**[03:29:13.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005286)  
balik kayo ulit,

**[03:29:14.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005287)  
balik kayo ulit.

**[03:29:14.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005288)  
We don't delist them

**[03:29:15.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005289)  
just like that

**[03:29:16.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005290)  
kasi baka naman

**[03:29:17.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005291)  
nagkasakit lang nung araw

**[03:29:18.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005292)  
nung payout.

**[03:29:19.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005293)  
So,

**[03:29:20.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005294)  
we give them

**[03:29:20.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005295)  
maraming chance

**[03:29:22.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005296)  
then pag wala na ho talaga,

**[03:29:23.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005297)  
it goes back to,

**[03:29:24.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005298)  
us to re-appropriate it

**[03:29:25.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005299)  
to other beneficiaries.

**[03:29:27.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005300)  
So, you're saying

**[03:29:28.140] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005301)  
that 20 million

**[03:29:29.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005302)  
was simply not collected?

**[03:29:30.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005303)  
Hindi ho nila ginawa.

**[03:29:31.780] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005304)  
For failure of the

**[03:29:33.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005305)  
beneficiary to show up?

**[03:29:34.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005306)  
For the beneficiaries

**[03:29:35.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005307)  
to turn up?

**[03:29:36.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005308)  
Correct.

**[03:29:36.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005309)  
Okay.

**[03:29:37.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005310)  
Sige.

**[03:29:38.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005311)  
So, yun,

**[03:29:38.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005312)  
yung mga COA audit reports,

**[03:29:40.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005313)  
tapos yung expanded centenarians

**[03:29:43.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005314)  
na hindi nakakuha

**[03:29:44.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005315)  
ng cash gift,

**[03:29:45.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005316)  
baka hindi rin sumipot to.

**[03:29:47.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005317)  
I'm sorry.

**[03:29:48.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005318)  
Agutin yung expanded centenarians

**[03:29:49.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005319)  
si ED na lang ho

**[03:29:50.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005320)  
kasi hindi naman namin

**[03:29:51.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005321)  
sila hawak.

**[03:29:52.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005322)  
Stop it sa COA eh.

**[03:29:53.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005323)  
Ma'am,

**[03:29:54.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005324)  
kasi,

**[03:29:54.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005325)  
for a time,

**[03:29:55.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005326)  
pag nabalitaan to,

**[03:29:56.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005327)  
patay tayo rin.

**[03:29:57.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005328)  
For a time kasi,

**[03:29:58.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005329)  
people assumed na

**[03:29:59.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005330)  
attached agency.

**[03:30:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005331)  
namin yung NCSC, pero as you well know,

**[03:30:01.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005332)  
hindi ho eh, diba?

**[03:30:03.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005333)  
Yes, Edie, Anna Marie, baka gusto nyo mag-weigh

**[03:30:06.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005334)  
in tungkol sa tanong na ito.

**[03:30:11.960] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005335)  
Ma'am, sa amin pong record,

**[03:30:14.160] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005336)  
na pay out po namin yung

**[03:30:17.480] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005337)  
funds namin for our

**[03:30:20.500] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005338)  
centenarians and

**[03:30:21.980] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005339)  
milestone agers.

**[03:30:24.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005340)  
Wala rin po kaming koa findings

**[03:30:26.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005341)  
na hindi namin.

**[03:30:27.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005342)  
Sa DSWD at COA,

**[03:30:30.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005343)  
meron 74,877

**[03:30:33.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005344)  
applicants who did not receive their

**[03:30:35.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005345)  
cash gift. Ang dami mo na?

**[03:30:37.800] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005346)  
74?

**[03:30:38.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005347)  
74,877. Nagulat din ako eh.

**[03:30:42.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005348)  
Parang ang laki kaya.

**[03:30:44.240] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005349)  
Ang hindi na lang po namin nabipigyan

**[03:30:46.220] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005350)  
ay 15,000 na

**[03:30:47.780] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005351)  
nakaschedule na po ngayong October.

**[03:30:50.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005352)  
74, 175.

**[03:30:52.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005353)  
Pakicheck mo lang sa COA kasi

**[03:30:53.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005354)  
hindi magandang usapin po.

**[03:30:56.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005355)  
Apo, ano po kaya ang year?

**[03:30:57.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005356)  
Yan, ma'am. Kasi

**[03:30:59.100] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005357)  
last year lang po kami nag-implement

**[03:31:01.240] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005358)  
ng mga program.

**[03:31:02.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005359)  
Nasa 2025.

**[03:31:05.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005360)  
Annual report.

**[03:31:06.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005361)  
That's for 2024 po na

**[03:31:09.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005362)  
findings. Lumalabas po

**[03:31:11.640] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005363)  
yung sa 2025

**[03:31:13.120] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005364)  
report yung 2024 na

**[03:31:15.200] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005365)  
findings. May carryover

**[03:31:17.220] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005366)  
talaga. Pero whatever it is,

**[03:31:18.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005367)  
75,000 is a heck of a lot of

**[03:31:21.180] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005368)  
centenarians. We just

**[03:31:23.320] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005369)  
implemented po yung program na yan

**[03:31:25.280] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005370)  
ng 2025.

**[03:31:26.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005371)  
February.

**[03:31:27.440] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005372)  
Yes, po. February lang po.

**[03:31:30.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005373)  
So, we'll check din po.

**[03:31:32.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005374)  
Makin silip na lang kasi

**[03:31:33.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005375)  
hindi nga magandang pakinggan.

**[03:31:36.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005376)  
75,000. Pagkatanda-tanda

**[03:31:38.380] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005377)  
hindi pa naaabutan.

**[03:31:40.240] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005378)  
Opo. Sige po, ma'am.

**[03:31:43.900] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005379)  
Submit na lang po kami na report, ma'am chair.

**[03:31:46.860] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005380)  
And

**[03:31:47.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005381)  
report unclaimed cash gift.

**[03:31:50.400] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005382)  
Ito yata sinasabi ninyo.

**[03:31:52.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005383)  
Yan yung expanded centenarian

**[03:31:53.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005384)  
nila po.

**[03:31:55.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005385)  
Ito yung

**[03:31:56.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005386)  
sabi, for failure of the

**[03:31:59.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005387)  
EDMS, walang listahan

**[03:32:01.360] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005388)  
yung elderly data management

**[03:32:03.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005389)  
system.

**[03:32:03.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005389-split-2)  
Hindi po sa amin po yan

**[03:32:05.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005390)  
sa kanila yan sa NCFC.

**[03:32:06.960] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005391)  
If I may po, yung pong

**[03:32:08.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005392)  
EDMS po kasi namin,

**[03:32:12.320] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005393)  
wala po kasing

**[03:32:13.660] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005394)  
fund para doon.

**[03:32:14.920] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005395)  
Hindi po nababudgetan kahit po

**[03:32:16.760] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005396)  
hinihingi namin siya every time po

**[03:32:18.860] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005397)  
na may budget call.

**[03:32:20.800] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005398)  
Ang status?

**[03:32:23.000] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005399)  
Ang EDMS ay

**[03:32:24.740] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005400)  
nasa...

**[03:32:25.580] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005401)  
Lifetime?

**[03:32:25.940] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005402)  
Oo nga po eh kasi...

**[03:32:28.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005403)  
Kasama na po ba yung EDMS item

**[03:32:30.400] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005404)  
doon sa wishlist po?

**[03:32:31.340] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005405)  
Yes po. Ito ang number one item po.

**[03:32:34.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005406)  
Chair, send I me if I may interject.

**[03:32:37.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005407)  
May two cents worth.

**[03:32:38.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005408)  
Paulit-ulit na po ako.

**[03:32:39.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005409)  
Hindi na po kailan yan EDMS na yan.

**[03:32:41.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005410)  
May CBMS naman po.

**[03:32:43.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005411)  
The CBMS is already an actuarial.

**[03:32:45.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005412)  
You can already project.

**[03:32:47.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005413)  
And kung hindi pa po tayo contento doon,

**[03:32:49.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005414)  
marami rin registry ang PSA na pwedeng pagkunan.

**[03:32:52.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005415)  
Titignan lang naman nyo sa CBMS

**[03:32:54.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005416)  
versus the death registry.

**[03:32:55.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005417)  
Pa ba? O patay na ho yung pinag-uusapan natin?

**[03:32:58.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005418)  
We don't need to spend more.

**[03:32:59.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005419)  
The CBMS is there for the taking.

**[03:33:02.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005420)  
Oo. Sinabi nyo,

**[03:33:03.160] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005421)  
Secretary Gatchelian,

**[03:33:04.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005422)  
tama nga po yan.

**[03:33:05.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005423)  
Tuwing eleksyon,

**[03:33:06.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005424)  
ang galing-galing natin maghanap ng botante.

**[03:33:09.240] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005425)  
Pag EDMS,

**[03:33:10.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005426)  
disappear silang lahat.

**[03:33:12.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005427)  
Magtataka ka talaga.

**[03:33:13.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005428)  
Sige.

**[03:33:14.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005429)  
So, sana,

**[03:33:15.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005430)  
mag-report na lang po

**[03:33:16.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005431)  
ang National Commission sa Senior Citizens

**[03:33:18.840] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005432)  
kung ano-ano yung corrective measures

**[03:33:21.300] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005433)  
na ginagawa nila

**[03:33:22.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005434)  
upang sagutin lahat ng tatanungan

**[03:33:24.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005435)  
at ang sita ng COA.

**[03:33:26.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005436)  
Okay.

**[03:33:27.600] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005437)  
Yun lang po.

**[03:33:28.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005438)  
And unsupported payables na lang.

**[03:33:30.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005439)  
23 million.

**[03:33:32.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005440)  
Contracts with delayed delivery notices,

**[03:33:35.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005441)  
et cetera.

**[03:33:35.560] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005442)  
Unliquidated cash advance.

**[03:33:38.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005443)  
Basta linisin lang ninyo ang libro ninyo

**[03:33:40.080] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005444)  
kasi magulo ang suma total.

**[03:33:42.260] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005445)  
Naayos na po namin yan, Madam Chair.

**[03:33:45.000] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005446)  
Sige.

**[03:33:45.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005447)  
Kung pwede,

**[03:33:46.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005448)  
hihingi na lang kami

**[03:33:47.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005449)  
sa ating subcommittee.

**[03:33:49.420] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005450)  
Bigay ninyo sa aming chairwoman

**[03:33:50.880] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005451)  
ang ating updated COA report.

**[03:33:54.460] NCSC Acting Executive Director Ana Marie C. Calapit** (asr-005452)  
Thank you po.

**[03:33:55.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005453)  
Yes po.

**[03:33:59.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005454)  
Salamat, Senator Aimee.

**[03:34:01.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005455)  
Bago natin balikan yung mga CSO representatives natin

**[03:34:04.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005456)  
simula kay Ms. Liza,

**[03:34:06.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005457)  
follow-up question, Secrex.

**[03:34:08.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005458)  
Doon sa sinabi nyo nga kanina

**[03:34:09.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005459)  
na may mga tao naman na kayo,

**[03:34:11.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005460)  
mga social workers na sanay

**[03:34:13.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005461)  
sa distribution ng mga social services

**[03:34:16.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005462)  
o ayuda,

**[03:34:16.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005463)  
sila yung mga gatekeepers

**[03:34:18.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005464)  
ng department.

**[03:34:20.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005465)  
Okay ba sa inyo na

**[03:34:21.440] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005466)  
ang department ang patuloy

**[03:34:23.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005467)  
na mag-administer

**[03:34:23.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005468)  
ng mga tools,

**[03:34:24.460] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005469)  
mula sa ibang mga ahensya,

**[03:34:26.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005470)  
halimbawa DADOTR

**[03:34:28.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005471)  
at anong additional capacity

**[03:34:31.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005472)  
ang kakailanganin

**[03:34:32.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005473)  
ng DSWD

**[03:34:33.820] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005474)  
para patuloy

**[03:34:34.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005475)  
na magawa ito?

**[03:34:36.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005476)  
Kasi ano yung ease

**[03:34:37.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005477)  
or difficulty

**[03:34:38.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005478)  
kung yung mga nasabing pondo

**[03:34:40.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005479)  
ay nasa DSWD

**[03:34:42.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005480)  
o di naman kaya nananatili

**[03:34:44.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005481)  
doon sa ibang ahensya?

**[03:34:45.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005482)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:34:46.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005483)  
hindi na ako papapasukin bukas.

**[03:34:47.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005484)  
May barake dyan,

**[03:34:48.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005485)  
sigurado ko.

**[03:34:49.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005486)  
Pero ma'am,

**[03:34:49.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005487)  
the department is the department

**[03:34:51.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005488)  
with the biggest heart.

**[03:34:52.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005489)  
Our employees will never stop helping

**[03:34:54.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005490)  
and we did it

**[03:34:54.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005491)  
during the transpo.

**[03:34:56.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005492)  
Kami ho nag-payout

**[03:34:57.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005493)  
kahit na hindi galing

**[03:34:58.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005494)  
sa amin yung listahan.

**[03:34:59.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005495)  
Sa RSSI,

**[03:35:00.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005496)  
we're doing it

**[03:35:01.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005497)  
and we will gladly do it

**[03:35:03.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005498)  
because the poor,

**[03:35:04.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005499)  
the vulnerable,

**[03:35:04.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005500)  
the marginalized,

**[03:35:05.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005501)  
hindi naman ho nila

**[03:35:06.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005502)  
kaya piliin

**[03:35:06.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005503)  
kung aling department

**[03:35:07.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005504)  
ang tutulong sa kanila.

**[03:35:08.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005505)  
It's a whole of government approach.

**[03:35:10.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005506)  
So we can

**[03:35:10.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005507)  
and we will.

**[03:35:13.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005508)  
Either mode,

**[03:35:14.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005509)  
nasa inyong kamay na

**[03:35:15.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005510)  
or nasa kanila pa.

**[03:35:17.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005511)  
Basta kayo yung gatekeepers

**[03:35:18.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005512)  
na in-assign

**[03:35:19.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005513)  
doon sa...

**[03:35:19.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005514)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:35:20.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005515)  
because I think we have

**[03:35:20.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005516)  
the biggest footprint

**[03:35:21.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005517)  
nationwide.

**[03:35:23.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005518)  
Kami ang may pinakamalabas

**[03:35:24.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005519)  
laking 56,000 na empleyado

**[03:35:26.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005520)  
na ready to help.

**[03:35:28.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005521)  
So wala at...

**[03:35:30.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005522)  
I'm not sure

**[03:35:31.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005523)  
if there's a department

**[03:35:31.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005524)  
with a bigger footprint

**[03:35:33.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005525)  
na kaya maggawa

**[03:35:34.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005526)  
nitong mga endeavor na to.

**[03:35:36.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005527)  
Just a quick question.

**[03:35:37.920] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005528)  
Yes, Senator.

**[03:35:38.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005529)  
Parating abala-abala

**[03:35:40.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005530)  
abalang-abala tayo

**[03:35:41.500] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005531)  
noong mga nakaraang taon

**[03:35:42.720] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005532)  
sa mga casual workers

**[03:35:44.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005533)  
na sila nagdi-distribute,

**[03:35:46.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005534)  
nagbibit-bit

**[03:35:47.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005535)  
mula land bank.

**[03:35:48.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005536)  
Tapos pag automated naman

**[03:35:50.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005537)  
nagre-reklamo

**[03:35:51.480] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005538)  
kasi may awas

**[03:35:52.520] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005539)  
na 50 pesos.

**[03:35:54.100] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005540)  
Tapos wala rin

**[03:35:54.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005541)  
kayong sasakyan.

**[03:35:56.280] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005542)  
So nasolve na ba

**[03:35:57.580] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005543)  
yung mga problemang yun?

**[03:35:58.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005544)  
Madam,

**[03:35:59.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005545)  
una ho,

**[03:36:00.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005546)  
last budget season

**[03:36:00.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005547)  
naglagay ho kayo

**[03:36:01.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005548)  
so marami na ho

**[03:36:02.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005549)  
kaming pondo.

**[03:36:03.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005550)  
Hindi ma marami

**[03:36:04.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005551)  
but meron na ho.

**[03:36:05.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005552)  
Sapat na.

**[03:36:06.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005553)  
Pangalawa,

**[03:36:07.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005554)  
we're also allowed

**[03:36:08.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005555)  
may mga ibang areas kami

**[03:36:09.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005556)  
like 4P's

**[03:36:10.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005557)  
na inalaw ng rental.

**[03:36:11.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005558)  
Mag-rent

**[03:36:12.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005559)  
kung wala ho talaga.

**[03:36:14.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005560)  
And then,

**[03:36:14.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005561)  
pangatlo po,

**[03:36:16.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005562)  
unti-unti

**[03:36:17.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005563)  
nagmamigrate na ho

**[03:36:17.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005564)  
sa digital.

**[03:36:20.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005565)  
Nakausap namin

**[03:36:21.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005566)  
yung mga service provider

**[03:36:22.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005567)  
na huwag 50 pesos

**[03:36:22.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005568)  
kundi 1 pesos na lang.

**[03:36:24.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005569)  
Oo.

**[03:36:24.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005570)  
Kaya nagsasok po

**[03:36:25.540] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005571)  
i-absorb yung DSW.

**[03:36:26.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005572)  
Yes,

**[03:36:27.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005573)  
1 pesos na lang.

**[03:36:28.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005574)  
So,

**[03:36:28.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005575)  
unti-unti

**[03:36:29.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005576)  
nagiging palatable

**[03:36:30.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005577)  
unti-unti

**[03:36:30.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005578)  
sa mga beneficiahin natin

**[03:36:31.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005579)  
this time.

**[03:36:32.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005580)  
Distribute may hawak

**[03:36:33.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005581)  
ng mga milyon-milyon.

**[03:36:35.340] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005582)  
Casual pa rin yun.

**[03:36:36.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005583)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:36:37.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005584)  
kanina tulad

**[03:36:37.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005585)  
ng report namin

**[03:36:38.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005586)  
na bigyan na ho tayo

**[03:36:39.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005587)  
ng panibagong 5,000

**[03:36:40.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005588)  
na regular positions

**[03:36:41.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005589)  
and then another 5

**[03:36:43.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005590)  
na padating na rin ulit.

**[03:36:44.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005591)  
So 10,000 na.

**[03:36:45.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005592)  
Madam Chair,

**[03:36:46.720] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005593)  
with gladly,

**[03:36:47.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005594)  
paulit-ulit namin

**[03:36:48.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005595)  
kukwento yun

**[03:36:48.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005596)  
kasi it's something

**[03:36:49.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005597)  
to be proud of.

**[03:36:50.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005598)  
After so many hearings,

**[03:36:51.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-005599)  
nangyari rin.

**[03:36:52.060] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005600)  
Kasi,

**[03:36:52.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005601)  
kasi nakakaba

**[03:36:54.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005602)  
para sa mga batang

**[03:36:55.620] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005603)  
namimigay,

**[03:36:56.820] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-005604)  
di ba?

**[03:36:59.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005605)  
Alamat,

**[03:36:59.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005606)  
Senator Aimee.

**[03:37:00.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005607)  
So,

**[03:37:01.460] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005608)  
Ms. Liza,

**[03:37:02.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005609)  
mula sa Social Watch Philippines.

**[03:37:04.740] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005610)  
Magandang hapon po.

**[03:37:07.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005611)  
Dalawa po ang bit-bit ko

**[03:37:08.540] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005612)  
ngayong hapon.

**[03:37:09.580] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005613)  
So,

**[03:37:09.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005614)  
sa ngalan ng Social Watch

**[03:37:11.520] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005615)  
Philippines na isang

**[03:37:13.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005616)  
budget advocacy

**[03:37:14.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005617)  
CSO

**[03:37:15.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005618)  
at yung aking personal

**[03:37:17.520] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005619)  
nakaranasan naman

**[03:37:18.580] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005620)  
ay sa mga may kapansanan

**[03:37:20.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005621)  
na may kapansanan

**[03:37:21.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005622)  
specific po

**[03:37:21.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005623)  
sa deaf community

**[03:37:22.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005624)  
where I have worked

**[03:37:23.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005625)  
for 30 years.

**[03:37:25.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005626)  
Gusto ko pong hatiin

**[03:37:26.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005627)  
yung dalawang minuto

**[03:37:28.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005628)  
at magmamakaawa

**[03:37:29.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005629)  
ng isa pang minuto

**[03:37:31.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005630)  
para...

**[03:37:31.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005631)  
Sure po.

**[03:37:32.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005632)  
Please go ahead.

**[03:37:33.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005633)  
Salamat po.

**[03:37:34.420] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005634)  
Gusto kong umpilsahan muna

**[03:37:36.040] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005635)  
siguro dahil

**[03:37:36.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005636)  
may ilang nabanggit na

**[03:37:37.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005637)  
maraming salamat

**[03:37:38.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005638)  
ngayong hapon

**[03:37:39.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005639)  
sa mga ibinahagi

**[03:37:40.620] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005640)  
ng ating mga lingkod bayan.

**[03:37:42.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005641)  
Marami po ako natutunan

**[03:37:43.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005642)  
tungkol sa DSWD

**[03:37:45.140] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005643)  
at maraming salamat

**[03:37:46.140] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005644)  
sa mga servisyo

**[03:37:47.300] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005645)  
at programa.

**[03:37:48.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005646)  
So,

**[03:37:48.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005647)  
sa kabuoan lang po

**[03:37:49.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005648)  
meron kaming ilang

**[03:37:51.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005650)  
summary statements

**[03:37:53.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005651)  
mula sa Social Watch Philippines.

**[03:37:55.900] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005652)  
Sa ngayon po,

**[03:37:57.440] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005653)  
ang tingin namin

**[03:37:58.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005654)  
sa

**[03:37:58.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005655)  
sa 2027

**[03:38:01.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005656)  
ang analysis

**[03:38:02.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005657)  
o critique

**[03:38:03.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005658)  
ng Social Watch Philippines

**[03:38:04.700] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005659)  
ay

**[03:38:05.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005660)  
yung mga

**[03:38:06.720] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005661)  
yung mga ahensya

**[03:38:08.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005662)  
attached sa DSWD

**[03:38:10.620] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005663)  
na binawasan

**[03:38:12.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005664)  
halimbawa ang

**[03:38:12.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005665)  
Council for the Welfare of Children,

**[03:38:14.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005666)  
Juvenile Justice and Welfare Council.

**[03:38:17.520] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005667)  
Ito pong mga cuts na to

**[03:38:18.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005668)  
ay hindi po

**[03:38:20.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005669)  
kami sangayon

**[03:38:21.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005670)  
dahil it weakens

**[03:38:22.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005671)  
the institutions

**[03:38:23.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005672)  
responsible for

**[03:38:25.460] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005673)  
child rights

**[03:38:26.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005674)  
and protection,

**[03:38:27.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005675)  
disability,

**[03:38:28.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005676)  
juvenile justice,

**[03:38:29.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005677)  
rehab,

**[03:38:30.300] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005678)  
regulation,

**[03:38:30.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005679)  
and social development.

**[03:38:32.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005680)  
Although assistance

**[03:38:34.000] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005681)  
to households

**[03:38:35.480] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005682)  
in crisis

**[03:38:36.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005683)  
is essential

**[03:38:37.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005684)  
at ilang beses na pong inulit-ulit

**[03:38:39.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005685)  
ang napakalaking

**[03:38:41.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005686)  
ibinalik

**[03:38:41.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005687)  
sa AICS

**[03:38:43.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005688)  
na halos bumalik na

**[03:38:44.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005689)  
doon sa 63

**[03:38:45.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005690)  
na hinihingi naman

**[03:38:46.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005691)  
ng ating kalihim.

**[03:38:48.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005692)  
Sa tingin po namin,

**[03:38:49.840] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005693)  
although assistance

**[03:38:50.540] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005694)  
to households

**[03:38:51.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005695)  
in crisis

**[03:38:51.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005696)  
is essential,

**[03:38:53.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005697)  
an increase of this scale

**[03:38:55.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005698)  
demands careful scrutiny,

**[03:38:58.460] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005699)  
heavy reliance

**[03:38:59.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005700)  
on discretionary subsidies,

**[03:39:00.900] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005701)  
at paulit-ulit na nating

**[03:39:01.960] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005702)  
sinasabi ito,

**[03:39:02.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005703)  
hindi lang ngayong hapon,

**[03:39:04.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005704)  
may reinforced short-term

**[03:39:05.520] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005705)  
patronage-prone politics

**[03:39:07.460] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005706)  
on the provision

**[03:39:08.640] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005707)  
of social assistance

**[03:39:09.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005708)  
rather than build

**[03:39:11.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005709)  
predictable rights-based

**[03:39:13.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005710)  
social protection.

**[03:39:15.740] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005711)  
So ang hiling po

**[03:39:16.440] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005712)  
ng Social Watch,

**[03:39:17.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005713)  
kung mamarapatin

**[03:39:18.640] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005714)  
ng komite,

**[03:39:19.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005715)  
ay nananakay

**[03:39:21.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005716)  
ang panawagan po

**[03:39:21.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005717)  
na to restore

**[03:39:23.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005718)  
the budgets

**[03:39:24.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005719)  
of those attached

**[03:39:25.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005720)  
and supervised agency

**[03:39:26.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005721)  
to at least

**[03:39:27.620] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005722)  
their 2026 levels

**[03:39:29.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005723)  
and adopt

**[03:39:31.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005724)  
and or adopt

**[03:39:32.960] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005725)  
their justified

**[03:39:33.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005726)  
Tier 2 proposals.

**[03:39:36.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005727)  
Narinig ko na rin

**[03:39:36.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005728)  
kanina na

**[03:39:37.580] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005729)  
miminungkahi yun.

**[03:39:38.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005730)  
Para naman sa AICS,

**[03:39:41.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005731)  
the request is to publish

**[03:39:43.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005732)  
clear AICS

**[03:39:44.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005733)  
allocation criteria,

**[03:39:46.840] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005734)  
beneficiary selection safeguards,

**[03:39:50.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005735)  
geographic distribution,

**[03:39:51.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005736)  
monitoring mechanisms,

**[03:39:53.000] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005737)  
and measurable outcomes.

**[03:39:55.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005738)  
Emergency assistance

**[03:39:56.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005739)  
must not crowd out

**[03:39:58.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005740)  
sustained investment

**[03:39:59.540] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005741)  
in prevention,

**[03:40:01.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005742)  
case management,

**[03:40:02.420] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005743)  
community-based services,

**[03:40:03.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005744)  
institutional capacity,

**[03:40:05.040] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005745)  
and the mandates

**[03:40:05.700] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005746)  
of DSWD-attached

**[03:40:07.720] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005747)  
and supervised agencies.

**[03:40:11.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005748)  
A credible DSWD budget

**[03:40:13.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005749)  
must do more,

**[03:40:15.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005750)  
much more

**[03:40:15.720] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005751)  
than provide relief

**[03:40:17.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005752)  
after harm

**[03:40:18.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005753)  
or hardship occurs.

**[03:40:20.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005754)  
It must be

**[03:40:21.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005755)  
must strengthen

**[03:40:21.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005756)  
the systems,

**[03:40:22.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005757)  
institutions,

**[03:40:23.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005758)  
frontline workers,

**[03:40:25.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005759)  
and direct support

**[03:40:26.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005760)  
needed to uphold

**[03:40:27.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005761)  
the rights,

**[03:40:28.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005762)  
dignity,

**[03:40:29.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005763)  
independence,

**[03:40:30.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005764)  
and well-being,

**[03:40:31.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005765)  
particularly of

**[03:40:32.440] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005766)  
two sectors

**[03:40:33.420] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005767)  
of children

**[03:40:34.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005768)  
and persons

**[03:40:34.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005769)  
with disabilities.

**[03:40:36.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005770)  
And

**[03:40:37.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005771)  
I'd like to bring up

**[03:40:39.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005772)  
two specific examples

**[03:40:40.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005773)  
of what Social Watch Philippines

**[03:40:42.460] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005774)  
is asking

**[03:40:43.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005775)  
for the child protection cluster.

**[03:40:47.520] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005776)  
And we've already submitted

**[03:40:48.840] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005777)  
for the slides.

**[03:40:49.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005778)  
I don't have the time

**[03:40:50.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005779)  
to go through all of them.

**[03:40:51.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005780)  
But there is also

**[03:40:53.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005781)  
a position paper

**[03:40:54.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005782)  
or a statement.

**[03:40:56.300] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005783)  
A targeted

**[03:40:57.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005784)  
28,563,800

**[03:41:00.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005785)  
investment

**[03:41:01.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005786)  
in child protection

**[03:41:02.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005787)  
under the DSWD budget

**[03:41:04.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005788)  
is being proposed.

**[03:41:07.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005789)  
And this is

**[03:41:07.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005790)  
the costing is based

**[03:41:09.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005791)  
on

**[03:41:09.700] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005792)  
the costed implementation plan

**[03:41:12.420] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005793)  
of the Philippine Strategic Plan

**[03:41:14.200] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005794)  
against the online sexual abuse

**[03:41:16.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005795)  
or exploitation of children

**[03:41:18.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005796)  
or the osaic

**[03:41:19.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005797)  
and the child sexual abuse

**[03:41:21.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005798)  
or exploitation materials

**[03:41:23.640] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005799)  
the CISA-SM

**[03:41:25.300] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005800)  
2025 to 2028.

**[03:41:27.600] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005801)  
The top two items there

**[03:41:29.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005802)  
are the basic course

**[03:41:31.840] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005803)  
on anti-osaic

**[03:41:33.300] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005804)  
and also the assessment

**[03:41:34.720] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005805)  
on survivors' outcome training.

**[03:41:37.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005806)  
So persons with disabilities cluster,

**[03:41:40.140] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005807)  
the Social Watch

**[03:41:41.140] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005808)  
is pushing for

**[03:41:42.840] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005809)  
the proposed

**[03:41:44.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005810)  
disability support allowance.

**[03:41:47.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005811)  
And this covers

**[03:41:48.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005812)  
disability-related experiences

**[03:41:51.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005813)  
such as

**[03:41:52.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005814)  
ongoing medical treatment

**[03:41:53.440] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005815)  
and medication,

**[03:41:55.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005816)  
hygiene and incontinence supply,

**[03:41:57.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005817)  
specialized transportation,

**[03:41:58.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005818)  
and several other things.

**[03:42:00.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005819)  
The program

**[03:42:01.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005820)  
is proposed to cover

**[03:42:02.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005821)  
345,000 beneficiaries

**[03:42:04.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005822)  
identified as Filipinos

**[03:42:06.900] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005823)  
with severe

**[03:42:08.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005824)  
functioning difficulties.

**[03:42:10.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005825)  
In fact,

**[03:42:11.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005826)  
the demographic

**[03:42:13.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005827)  
mentioned here

**[03:42:15.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005828)  
is based on the 2020 census

**[03:42:17.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005829)  
and as has already been mentioned,

**[03:42:19.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005830)  
the CBMS,

**[03:42:21.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005831)  
actually has doubled

**[03:42:22.300] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005832)  
that amount

**[03:42:23.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005833)  
for persons with severe disabilities

**[03:42:25.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005834)  
only from ages 5 to 19.

**[03:42:29.140] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005835)  
These are children and youth.

**[03:42:30.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005836)  
It's doubled.

**[03:42:31.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005837)  
This is only half.

**[03:42:33.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005838)  
It's proposing to give

**[03:42:35.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005839)  
a disability support allowance

**[03:42:37.620] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005840)  
of 2,000 pesos per month

**[03:42:39.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005841)  
for Filipinos

**[03:42:41.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005842)  
with severe functioning disabilities,

**[03:42:43.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005843)  
difficulties, I'm sorry.

**[03:42:45.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005844)  
And this amounts to

**[03:42:46.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005845)  
690 million monthly

**[03:42:49.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005846)  
and 8

**[03:42:51.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005847)  
plus billion annually

**[03:42:52.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005848)  
for the allowance.

**[03:42:56.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005849)  
Taken together,

**[03:42:58.580] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005850)  
the proposals for child protection

**[03:43:00.140] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005851)  
and persons with disabilities

**[03:43:01.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005852)  
would move the DSWD budget

**[03:43:03.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005853)  
toward prevention,

**[03:43:05.440] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005854)  
survivor-centered recovery

**[03:43:07.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005855)  
and reintegration,

**[03:43:08.420] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005856)  
disability visibility

**[03:43:09.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005857)  
and inclusion,

**[03:43:11.700] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005858)  
stronger professional capacity

**[03:43:13.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005859)  
and accountable service delivery.

**[03:43:16.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005860)  
Social Watch respectfully calls

**[03:43:18.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005861)  
on Senator Ontiveros

**[03:43:19.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005862)  
and the appropriate subcommittee

**[03:43:21.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005863)  
chairs to champion

**[03:43:22.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005864)  
these proposals

**[03:43:23.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005865)  
and sponsor the corresponding

**[03:43:25.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005866)  
amendments during the period

**[03:43:26.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005867)  
of amendments.

**[03:43:28.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005868)  
My second minute.

**[03:43:30.040] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005869)  
I would like just to mention,

**[03:43:31.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005870)  
sorry.

**[03:43:32.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005871)  
More than one minute.

**[03:43:33.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005872)  
Please proceed and wind up.

**[03:43:35.840] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005873)  
Just a very specific example

**[03:43:38.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005874)  
to bring it down to the ground.

**[03:43:40.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005875)  
And this is a specific example

**[03:43:42.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005876)  
on the deaf community.

**[03:43:44.420] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005877)  
It is probably the only constituency

**[03:43:46.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005878)  
in the entire sector

**[03:43:48.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005879)  
of persons with disabilities

**[03:43:49.580] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005880)  
which has its own law.

**[03:43:51.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005881)  
Because the identity

**[03:43:52.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005882)  
of deaf people

**[03:43:53.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005883)  
is not just dependent

**[03:43:54.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005884)  
on being a person

**[03:43:55.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005885)  
with a disability

**[03:43:56.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005886)  
but because they have

**[03:43:57.440] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005887)  
their own language

**[03:43:58.300] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005888)  
and culture.

**[03:44:00.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005889)  
So this is under...

**[03:44:00.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005890)  
There are also separate laws

**[03:44:02.340] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005891)  
for persons with autism.

**[03:44:03.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005892)  
Recently, I've already

**[03:44:04.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005893)  
mentioned it.

**[03:44:04.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005894)  
Yes, I'm sorry.

**[03:44:05.620] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005895)  
It's okay.

**[03:44:06.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005896)  
And also for the others,

**[03:44:07.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005897)  
I was going to mention that

**[03:44:09.740] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005898)  
we also have the laws

**[03:44:11.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005899)  
which recognize persons

**[03:44:12.280] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005900)  
with rare diseases,

**[03:44:14.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005901)  
the mental health law,

**[03:44:15.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005902)  
the national cancer control law

**[03:44:17.700] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005903)  
which all recognizes

**[03:44:18.680] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005904)  
these persons with disabilities.

**[03:44:21.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005905)  
These constituencies

**[03:44:23.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005906)  
as persons with disabilities.

**[03:44:25.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005907)  
But we have specific questions

**[03:44:27.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005908)  
because we have many good policies

**[03:44:29.480] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005909)  
which unfortunately

**[03:44:30.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005910)  
remain on paper.

**[03:44:32.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005911)  
For instance,

**[03:44:32.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005912)  
the 1992 RA 7277

**[03:44:36.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005913)  
has a section on

**[03:44:37.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005914)  
auxiliary social services

**[03:44:39.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005915)  
which includes

**[03:44:40.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005916)  
the provision of

**[03:44:41.460] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005917)  
qualified sign language interpreters

**[03:44:43.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005918)  
as part of that.

**[03:44:45.040] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005919)  
And that has remained

**[03:44:46.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005920)  
unimplemented since 1992.

**[03:44:49.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005921)  
The DSWD,

**[03:44:51.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005922)  
actually issued

**[03:44:51.640] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005923)  
an administrative order

**[03:44:52.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005924)  
in 2003-059

**[03:44:54.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005925)  
for the guidelines

**[03:44:55.620] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005926)  
for the implementation

**[03:44:57.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005927)  
of the auxiliary social services

**[03:44:59.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005928)  
in coordination...

**[03:45:00.000] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005929)  
A more recent one is because of the previous 1% earmarked spending of all agencies during the second decade of persons with disabilities lapsed from 2003 to 2012.

**[03:45:17.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005930)  
So the general provision in the GAA annually has remained but with no more earmarking.

**[03:45:22.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005931)  
So it's just requiring agencies to have programs and activities for persons with disabilities and older persons.

**[03:45:31.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005932)  
In fact, there is a Joint Circular DBM-DSWD-NCDA-NCSC Joint Circular No. 1 Series of 2023 on the MEAL, the MEAL, Monitoring and Evaluation of Accountability for Learning.

**[03:45:49.080] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005933)  
For and learning from the implementation of Section 12.

**[03:45:52.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005934)  
So there has been a general provision 36. It was 37 in the succeeding years. It's been still in 2026.

**[03:46:08.040] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005935)  
And this is, and we requested actually this week, we asked the DSWD to send us some of the annual, the reports because of this Joint Circular.

**[03:46:21.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005936)  
And we were surprised.

**[03:46:22.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005937)  
We were surprised to receive tables showing shelters, facilities, and rehabilitation programs.

**[03:46:29.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005938)  
And so we were wondering, we weren't quite sure what was in their minds in looking at all of the, what was mandated in the general provision.

**[03:46:40.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005939)  
In the budget hearing last Monday, and I think Senator, the Honorable Senator Erwin Tufo mentioned this, our DSWD Secretary mentioned in relation to this,

**[03:46:50.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005940)  
we raised the,

**[03:46:52.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005941)  
the implemented sections of the Magna Carta.

**[03:46:57.480] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005942)  
And regarding particularly the auxiliary social services,

**[03:47:01.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005943)  
and our good Secretary mentioned that they have already proposed indicators for the SGLC to compel LGUs to comply.

**[03:47:12.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005944)  
And that has to do with my last point later on.

**[03:47:16.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005945)  
And also our...

**[03:47:18.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005946)  
I thought your last point was now.

**[03:47:20.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005947)  
Okay.

**[03:47:20.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005948)  
Okay.

**[03:47:22.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005949)  
N-C-D-A-E-D, Ms. Relova, and because we were asking even in the budget hearings of the House regarding Filipino Sign Language interpreters,

**[03:47:35.400] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005950)  
and they mentioned an upcoming or ongoing DSWD Academy training allotted for 1 million four times a year, 45 trainees, and that you already have 80 interpreters on your roster.

**[03:47:47.460] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005951)  
However, on the ground, we have received cases of rape victims.

**[03:47:52.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005952)  
And they're usually women and girls who are unschooled and therefore much more vulnerable who have been advised by the social workers to learn sign language first on their own so that they could have the communication skills.

**[03:48:05.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005953)  
Essentially, we feel this is highly discriminatory.

**[03:48:08.940] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005954)  
And especially so since the Supreme Court has already issued a rule on interpreting, specifically institutionalizing deaf-rely interpreters for unschooled deaf people.

**[03:48:21.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005955)  
So,

**[03:48:22.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005956)  
they may not sign in the standard language, but they are highly communicative.

**[03:48:29.240] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005957)  
So, we are very disturbed because the incidence of rape and sexual violence is about 10 times higher than the national average.

**[03:48:37.340] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005958)  
Last 30 seconds.

**[03:48:41.540] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005959)  
Last na po.

**[03:48:42.720] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005960)  
Here is just a challenge or food for thought.

**[03:48:47.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005961)  
We have been talking a lot since Monday about the PWD IDs.

**[03:48:51.180] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005962)  
Maybe it is time for us to step back a little and maybe not put too much value on the discounts and the VAT exemption if we can provide a whole of government approach in really providing services to persons with disabilities.

**[03:49:09.220] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005963)  
I can imagine that if there is no discount, then the government will have all agencies, not just DSWD na sila ang tinuturo lagi or DILG only.

**[03:49:20.520] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005964)  
But all agencies have to provide, make their public services accessible to all.

**[03:49:26.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005965)  
The reason that disability is such a beast to deal with siguro in governance, it's because it's a highly diverse group.

**[03:49:35.200] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005966)  
You're talking about, we have many conceptions of sino ba yung totoong person with a disability and laking debate niyan between the SWDD or HNCDA and so on.

**[03:49:48.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005967)  
Where are the deaf-blind?

**[03:49:49.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005968)  
Where are, we don't talk very often about those on the spectrum, those with intellectual disabilities, and those with mental health, those who have episodic and chronic conditions.

**[03:50:02.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005969)  
You don't see them.

**[03:50:04.880] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005970)  
And sometimes they're all just lumped.

**[03:50:06.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005971)  
O, psychosocial kayo lahat.

**[03:50:09.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005972)  
Okay.

**[03:50:10.120] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005973)  
And our experience with the deaf, it shows that this whole government approach is so critical.

**[03:50:17.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005974)  
And this is our appeal to the committee.

**[03:50:19.760] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005975)  
Let us not just put it all on one agency.

**[03:50:23.320] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005976)  
Because for instance, if we look at the 2,000 proposed disability support allowance, 2,000 per month, one interpreting for one hour is already 1,000.

**[03:50:34.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005977)  
Going to see a developmental pediatrician is at least 5,000.

**[03:50:39.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005978)  
Taking a grab, just to go from if you're in a wheelchair or you have to carry your child who has severe cerebral palsy,

**[03:50:48.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005979)  
will take you at least 800 pesos.

**[03:50:51.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005980)  
Wala ka agad yung 2,000.

**[03:50:57.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005981)  
There are now 35 deaf people who have been arrested without being read their rights.

**[03:51:05.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005982)  
They do not know why they're being arrested.

**[03:51:09.720] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005983)  
There was an attempt to translate the Miranda rights,

**[03:51:13.700] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005984)  
but it was done, unfortunately, without the lack of awareness.

**[03:51:17.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005985)  
That you have to ask deaf people.

**[03:51:18.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005986)  
So that they can be understood.

**[03:51:21.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005987)  
These are mostly deaf people who have never been to school.

**[03:51:24.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005988)  
The number is growing.

**[03:51:27.360] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005989)  
Where are we in the deaf-deaf SDGs?

**[03:51:31.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005990)  
The time will be up in three years.

**[03:51:34.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005991)  
We have had 15 years, SDG 1 on the poverty about leaving no one behind.

**[03:51:42.560] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005992)  
Persons with disabilities and children are already left behind.

**[03:51:45.500] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005993)  
Because there's no data even up until now.

**[03:51:48.820] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005994)  
How much is government spending for persons with disabilities, including children with disabilities?

**[03:51:54.660] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005995)  
The only study which has been done was in 2013 by Civil Society, the Philippine Coalition on the CRPD.

**[03:52:01.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005996)  
But as of now, we don't know.

**[03:52:03.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005997)  
We are invisible.

**[03:52:05.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-005998)  
Okay, this is the final.

**[03:52:07.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-005999)  
Yes, please, because also Senator Amy would actually like to interject here.

**[03:52:11.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006000)  
Okay, so please wrap up, Ms. Liza.

**[03:52:13.160] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006001)  
This is a provision which builds on, this is for the deaf,

**[03:52:17.860] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006002)  
and the main point, it has several things, we have sent the draft,

**[03:52:23.900] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006003)  
is to make persons with disabilities visible.

**[03:52:28.100] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006004)  
We are not asking for any appropriation, but we are asking for certain accounting,

**[03:52:34.780] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006005)  
you know, governance mechanisms, just so that it can be seen.

**[03:52:39.260] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006006)  
Because if you're out of sight, you're out of mind.

**[03:52:42.460] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006007)  
That's all. Thank you very much.

**[03:52:43.760] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006008)  
Yes, Madam Chair.

**[03:52:44.280] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006009)  
Thank you very much, Ms. Liza.

**[03:52:45.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006010)  
Yes, for the Chair.

**[03:52:47.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006011)  
Senator, I'm...

**[03:52:47.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006012)  
Dr. Martinez's plea that, in fact, those with severe challenges should actually be provided their own stipend.

**[03:52:57.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006013)  
I filed in the last Congress still a disability support fund already and refiled it in 2025 last year.

**[03:53:07.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006014)  
But we had discussions.

**[03:53:09.040] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006015)  
It's a far more modest proposition at 500 bucks per month, which is hardly enough, as you said,

**[03:53:14.900] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006016)  
because it's extremely expensive, assistive devices.

**[03:53:17.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006017)  
Therapy, et cetera, is already quite onerous.

**[03:53:21.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006018)  
And we came to some kind of agreement at that point in time, sa 500 a month lang muna.

**[03:53:28.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006019)  
Kasi kailangan mag-identify ka ng funding source.

**[03:53:31.740] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006020)  
Hindi ba, alam ni Chair yun.

**[03:53:33.660] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006021)  
At sana mabuhay ngayon, and I appreciate hearing it from you,

**[03:53:38.200] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006022)  
because nanahimik na yung bilis.

**[03:53:40.700] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006023)  
Sana buhayin natin ulit.

**[03:53:42.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006024)  
At tigit sa lahat, very alarming nga ang criminal statistics,

**[03:53:46.460] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006025)  
yung mga crimes against chastity.

**[03:53:47.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006026)  
And sexual assault sa ating deaf community.

**[03:53:53.120] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006027)  
And also the blind community.

**[03:53:55.020] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006028)  
Talagang malaking problema yan.

**[03:53:57.320] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006029)  
At kinakailangan talaga pagtuunan ng pansin.

**[03:54:01.440] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006030)  
Pero in the SWD, severely hampered, as are the LGUs,

**[03:54:05.260] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006031)  
for lack na nga of the psychologists, psychiatrists, and others who can identify mental

**[03:54:12.640] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006032)  
and the cover, catch-all, psychosocial neurodivergence,

**[03:54:17.860] Senator Imee R. Marcos** (asr-006033)  
divergent, etc., classification.

**[03:54:21.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006034)  
Salamat, Sen. Amy.

**[03:54:22.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006035)  
Before I ask the Secretary if he'd like to respond initially dun sa inputs ni Ms. Liza,

**[03:54:29.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006036)  
gusto kong i-confirm na meron nga ang mga disability support allowances bills filed.

**[03:54:38.460] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006037)  
Yung sa representasyong ito, 2,000 a month din ang proposal sa bill.

**[03:54:44.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006038)  
So, pagtutulungan na lang namin i-follow up.

**[03:54:47.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006039)  
Muli.

**[03:54:47.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006040)  
Muli itong kongreso yung proposals namin iyon.

**[03:54:52.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006041)  
Ang ganda po nung proposal about a predictable rights-based social protection.

**[03:54:58.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006042)  
And sinare ko rin kay Secrex nung mga briefings namin na gusto ko talaga ma-raise yung profile ng department

**[03:55:05.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006043)  
aside from for their essential, urgent, tactical responses, yung long-term strategic trajectory ng department.

**[03:55:15.080] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006044)  
And I think isang magandang possible anchor ito.

**[03:55:17.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006045)  
Yung rights-based social protection na ang DSWD ang mag-champion yan.

**[03:55:22.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006046)  
So, well-noted yung mga specific proposed, possible proposed amendments for 2027 na i-restore to at least 2026 levels

**[03:55:32.920] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006047)  
at o i-adopt yung Tier 2.

**[03:55:35.540] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006048)  
And then yung possible amendment on the child protection system.

**[03:55:42.400] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006049)  
Kaugnay din ito sa kapapasa din naming batang ligtas.

**[03:55:47.520] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006050)  
Law, no?

**[03:55:48.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006051)  
Laban nga sa OSAIC, CISAEM, at pati laban sa NVE.

**[03:55:51.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006052)  
And then yun na nga po yung disability support allowance.

**[03:55:54.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006053)  
So, Secrex, would you like to respond?

**[03:55:56.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006054)  
Well-noted, Madam Chair.

**[03:55:58.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006055)  
Actually, Social Watch Philippines is a partner of ours in the cabinet cluster on social development and social protection.

**[03:56:08.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006056)  
So, all the points that they raise are well-noted.

**[03:56:10.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006057)  
I just want to put on record na meron na ho tayong mga incubator social protection programs in those areas.

**[03:56:17.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006058)  
At least that you mentioned.

**[03:56:19.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006059)  
First of all is yung binalik sa house na budget na 25 million for Project Aruga.

**[03:56:24.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006060)  
Project Aruga is a pilot project that takes care of the family, the caregivers themselves, as well as the child na may disability.

**[03:56:32.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006061)  
So, it calls for support in early detection, assessments.

**[03:56:37.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006062)  
Number two, meron ng disability support allowance na TIG to 2,000.

**[03:56:41.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006063)  
And then they also get auxiliary services.

**[03:56:43.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006064)  
We're going to use our AICs to tie up with service providers in the area.

**[03:56:47.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006065)  
So that whatever therapy or whatever intervention that they need, especially for children with special needs,

**[03:56:54.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006066)  
can seek help using our guarantee letters ng AICs program, another use of the AICs program.

**[03:57:00.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006067)  
And then it also calls for, it also has a built-in capacity building for family support

**[03:57:06.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006068)  
because it can be taxing for the family of a person with disability on how to cope.

**[03:57:12.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006069)  
We also have to take care of the family themselves.

**[03:57:14.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006070)  
And last, advocacy campaigns.

**[03:57:17.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006071)  
A lot of people are still ignorant, not because they choose to do so,

**[03:57:20.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006072)  
but because of lack of information on what they should and not do,

**[03:57:24.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006073)  
what they should say and what not say,

**[03:57:26.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006074)  
or how they should refer to people with disabilities.

**[03:57:29.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006075)  
So, the whole program is holistic.

**[03:57:31.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006076)  
Sa HGAB po, nabalik na ho siya, 25 million.

**[03:57:34.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006077)  
Malit lang ho siya, but it's a good starting point.

**[03:57:37.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006078)  
These are pilot programs in selected LGUs that we can learn from

**[03:57:41.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006079)  
so that pagka time na may budget na mas malaki,

**[03:57:45.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006080)  
we can already have the learnings and the impact.

**[03:57:47.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006081)  
The assessments and the monitorings.

**[03:57:49.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006082)  
Pangalawa po, the other fund that was restored was the 25 million fund for Project SAFE,

**[03:57:56.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006083)  
which is an OSAIC advocacy campaign.

**[03:57:59.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006084)  
One, it teaches people or the young people on what to look out for in their families,

**[03:58:04.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006085)  
the red flags.

**[03:58:06.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006086)  
Pangalawa, it has a strong reporting system and network of care for OSAIC victims.

**[03:58:12.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006087)  
Pangatlo, obviously what we do best are healing services in our care facilities.

**[03:58:17.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006088)  
And pangapat, recovery and reintegration services.

**[03:58:22.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006089)  
So, it's again a pilot because of the tight fiscal space,

**[03:58:25.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006090)  
but at least nandun na ho siya, the 25 million.

**[03:58:27.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006091)  
Now, I totally agree with the good professor on restoring sana the attached agency budgets

**[03:58:35.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006092)  
because these are administrative in nature.

**[03:58:37.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006093)  
As mentioned to the good chairwoman,

**[03:58:39.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006094)  
marami ho doon are employee-based na compensation na maaring mawala by next year

**[03:58:45.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006095)  
kung hindi ho maibabalik yung mga points.

**[03:58:47.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006096)  
Now, we can do a better job with the implementation of FSL.

**[03:58:54.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006097)  
We admit that, we admitted that in the House.

**[03:58:58.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006098)  
Kaming nga mismo sa Departamento, kulang ho kami.

**[03:59:01.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006099)  
Now, what is the concrete step towards the direction that you want?

**[03:59:05.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006100)  
The Department has an academy.

**[03:59:06.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006101)  
It's about to be opened by the end of the year.

**[03:59:08.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006102)  
Of course, we're running it off-site now.

**[03:59:11.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006103)  
The academy will work with the Philippine Association of the Deaf

**[03:59:14.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006104)  
to help capacitate our own service providers.

**[03:59:17.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006105)  
As well as LGU service providers

**[03:59:19.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006106)  
by doing these courses inside our academy, these certification programs.

**[03:59:25.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006107)  
Kung kami nga ho mismo, like I said, we can do a better job,

**[03:59:28.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006108)  
then admittedly, we should be doing a better job.

**[03:59:32.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006109)  
Salamat, Secrex.

**[03:59:34.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006110)  
Can I just wrap up, Madam Chair?

**[03:59:36.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006111)  
Yes, of course, please.

**[03:59:37.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006112)  
Now, yung 1%, we feel strongly about that.

**[03:59:40.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006113)  
That GMC came to life because we wanted to make sure

**[03:59:44.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006114)  
na may mga positions in government

**[03:59:46.880] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006115)  
that are reserved for people with disability.

**[03:59:49.280] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006116)  
Pero tama ho kayo nung sinubmit yung mga plano.

**[03:59:52.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006117)  
Sometimes you'd feel that they're haphazardly done.

**[03:59:54.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006118)  
That's why I spoke to Secretary Kim

**[03:59:56.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006119)  
na we're going to do a budget converging.

**[04:00:00.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006120)  
planning, meaning

**[04:00:01.940] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006121)  
we will capacitate the departments

**[04:00:04.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006122)  
on what is qualified

**[04:00:06.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006123)  
and what is not qualified in those

**[04:00:08.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006124)  
accessibility plans.

**[04:00:10.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006125)  
Kayo nga nagbanggit kung parang

**[04:00:12.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006126)  
feeling nyo kung ano-ano na lang yung nilagay

**[04:00:14.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006127)  
doon. So we totally agree.

**[04:00:16.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006128)  
Give us the time to work with DBM

**[04:00:17.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006129)  
and the agencies concerned so that not only

**[04:00:20.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006130)  
do we reserve 1% of our

**[04:00:22.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006131)  
hiring plan, of our manpower base

**[04:00:24.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006132)  
but to also make sure that our workplaces

**[04:00:26.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006133)  
are accessible

**[04:00:28.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006134)  
and conducive

**[04:00:30.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006135)  
to working for people with disabilities.

**[04:00:33.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006136)  
Salamat

**[04:00:34.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006137)  
Secrex.

**[04:00:37.260] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006138)  
Liza,

**[04:00:38.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006139)  
very briefly please kasi gusto ko rin

**[04:00:40.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006140)  
tanungin ang si Ms. Emily

**[04:00:42.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006141)  
kung gusto rin nilang mag-input.

**[04:00:44.200] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006142)  
Coordinate po regarding the

**[04:00:46.040] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006143)  
FSL training, there is a certification

**[04:00:48.020] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006144)  
process for all government agencies

**[04:00:49.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006145)  
and private entities who are

**[04:00:51.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006146)  
teaching FSL.

**[04:00:54.380] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006147)  
Komisyon sa Wikang Filipino

**[04:00:55.980] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006148)  
is the agency to coordinate with.

**[04:00:58.060] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006149)  
To meet them tomorrow.

**[04:00:59.920] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006150)  
Excellent. And the other one

**[04:01:02.200] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006151)  
I forgot already. Thank you po.

**[04:01:04.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006152)  
Sige po. If you remember

**[04:01:05.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006153)  
before we adjourn for the day, pwede po

**[04:01:08.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006154)  
kayong humabol. But Ms. Emily, gusto nyo

**[04:01:10.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006155)  
rin mag-input for

**[04:01:12.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006156)  
Coalition of Services for the Elder.

**[04:01:13.700] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006157)  
Thank you, Madam Chair.

**[04:01:16.040] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006158)  
May ano lang po siguro ako

**[04:01:17.520] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006159)  
tanong din sa DSWD.

**[04:01:22.080] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006160)  
Secretary Rex,

**[04:01:23.880] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006161)  
kanina po diba na-present natin yung budget

**[04:01:25.760] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006162)  
for the social

**[04:01:27.800] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006163)  
pension this year, 2027,

**[04:01:30.180] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006164)  
51.6 billion po, right?

**[04:01:32.680] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006165)  
So, tanong lang po, ilan po yung

**[04:01:34.100] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006166)  
target beneficiaries natin for now?

**[04:01:36.500] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006167)  
Kasi po, honestly,

**[04:01:38.320] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006168)  
napakalaki pa po talaga yung population

**[04:01:40.260] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006169)  
ng mga older persons na wala man lang

**[04:01:42.180] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006170)  
na-receive na anumang pension

**[04:01:44.080] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006171)  
nasa 42% po based sa

**[04:01:46.380] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006172)  
data ng PSA

**[04:01:47.580] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006173)  
and around P4.8

**[04:01:50.160] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006174)  
million po yung walang natatanggap

**[04:01:51.900] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006175)  
ni anumang pension. So, yung advocacy

**[04:01:53.840] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006176)  
po namin, matagal na to. Alam ko si

**[04:01:55.880] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006177)  
Sen. Reza isa to sa nangunguna dito.

**[04:01:57.800] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006178)  
Sa Sen. yung magkaroon ng

**[04:01:59.260] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006179)  
universal social pension, pero

**[04:02:01.400] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006180)  
unfortunately, since 2006

**[04:02:03.500] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006181)  
na pinupush natin, di pa po ito na-approve.

**[04:02:06.560] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006182)  
Pero, sana

**[04:02:07.660] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006183)  
madagdagan man lang din po yung mga beneficiaries.

**[04:02:10.740] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006184)  
Then, pangatlo po,

**[04:02:13.000] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006185)  
kagagaling po lang po sa

**[04:02:14.020] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006186)  
Northern Summer last week.

**[04:02:16.120] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006187)  
Then, isa po sa mga partner LGUs

**[04:02:17.900] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006188)  
namin, nakausap po yung mga senior citizens

**[04:02:20.060] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006189)  
organizations, yung Federation

**[04:02:21.800] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006190)  
and OSCA.

**[04:02:23.940] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006191)  
Dahil po dun sa CBMS ngayon,

**[04:02:26.600] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006192)  
um, para

**[04:02:27.800] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006193)  
ang, ang

**[04:02:29.220] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006194)  
natawag dito, na-identify po

**[04:02:31.780] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006195)  
tuloy ng mga bagong beneficiaries ng

**[04:02:33.580] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006196)  
social pension. Yung mga age 60,

**[04:02:35.880] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006197)  
mayroon daw po silang nasa listahan ng mga

**[04:02:37.700] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006198)  
80 years old yung nabab na, na hindi

**[04:02:39.680] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006199)  
pa rin po nakakatanggap. At hindi po

**[04:02:41.800] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006200)  
napasama doon sa list. So,

**[04:02:43.940] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006201)  
with that po, kasi mayroon din po

**[04:02:45.640] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006202)  
sana nga kaming pinupropose

**[04:02:47.680] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006203)  
sa mga LGUs na partner namin, yung

**[04:02:49.620] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006204)  
database po for senior citizen, yung

**[04:02:51.780] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006205)  
senior citizens registration

**[04:02:54.040] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006206)  
and information system na

**[04:02:55.940] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006207)  
actually, ano na po rin,

**[04:02:57.760] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006208)  
namin to sa NCSC para magamit

**[04:02:59.680] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006209)  
po sana, na-focus po talaga sa senior

**[04:03:01.560] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006210)  
citizens. So, nasa OSCA siya

**[04:03:03.660] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006211)  
or MSWDO, CSWDO,

**[04:03:05.960] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006212)  
once na mamatay po yung

**[04:03:07.480] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006213)  
older persons, tanggal agad. Tapos once na may

**[04:03:09.600] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006214)  
mag-60, ano agad,

**[04:03:11.420] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006215)  
ma-i-enroll po agad. So, mas

**[04:03:13.400] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006216)  
madali po siyang

**[04:03:14.900] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006217)  
maano natin yung population

**[04:03:17.460] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006218)  
po ng mga older persons. Yan po. Thank you.

**[04:03:20.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006219)  
Thank you rin, Ms.

**[04:03:21.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006220)  
Emily.

**[04:03:22.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006220-split-2)  
Madam

**[04:03:23.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006221)  
Chair, ma'am, points of clarification.

**[04:03:25.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006222)  
Yung CBMS, hindi po,

**[04:03:27.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006223)  
hindi po siya age-based, no?

**[04:03:30.000] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006224)  
So,

**[04:03:30.250] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006224-split-2)  
it covers everybody?

**[04:03:31.600] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006225)  
Yes, po.

**[04:03:32.080] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006225-split-2)  
Well,

**[04:03:33.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006226)  
4.2 po yung target beneficiaries

**[04:03:35.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006227)  
this year, because yun po yung budget na

**[04:03:37.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006228)  
available. Pero sana nga parehas

**[04:03:39.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006229)  
kami na kasama nyo kami sa

**[04:03:41.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006230)  
lahat universal.

**[04:03:43.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006231)  
But number two, yung CBMS doesn't

**[04:03:45.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006232)  
exclude based on age. Pero

**[04:03:47.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006233)  
adminado rin po ang PSA and the good

**[04:03:49.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006234)  
chair can validate this, na medyo malaki nga yung

**[04:03:51.520] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006235)  
naging exclusion because it probably was the

**[04:03:53.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006236)  
first time that we were running CBMS nationally.

**[04:03:56.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006237)  
Now, ang panawa,

**[04:03:57.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006238)  
yung advice namin sa mga LGU, at alam

**[04:03:59.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006239)  
na rin nila ito, na dahil lahat po ng

**[04:04:01.340] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006240)  
financial assistance, not just from the

**[04:04:03.440] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006241)  
SWD, dahan-dahan na

**[04:04:05.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006242)  
nakinukuha sa CBMS,

**[04:04:07.160] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006243)  
seryosohin nila. You have to remember, ako ho,

**[04:04:09.220] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006244)  
nag-imero kasi ako. The CBMS is only as good as

**[04:04:11.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006245)  
the support from the local government unit.

**[04:04:13.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006246)  
Kasi if you are not going to monitor

**[04:04:15.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006247)  
the enumerators, talagang hindi yan makakapasok

**[04:04:17.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006248)  
kung saan-saan. And hindi lang naman ho ito sa

**[04:04:19.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006249)  
seniors nangyari, pati sa 4Ps nangyari.

**[04:04:22.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006250)  
So,

**[04:04:23.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006251)  
I think our local government units will do better

**[04:04:25.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006252)  
now in monitoring the enumerators

**[04:04:27.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006253)  
kasi sila ang magiging

**[04:04:29.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006254)  
biktima sa dulo, mga constituent nila.

**[04:04:31.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006255)  
Now, Madam, you mentioned

**[04:04:33.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006256)  
na may mga 60 pa taas na hindi pa

**[04:04:35.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006257)  
nakakatanggap. As mentioned a while ago kasi,

**[04:04:37.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006258)  
we reformatted the guidelines in the

**[04:04:39.500] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006259)  
department na dahil limitado yung pera,

**[04:04:41.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006260)  
binaliktad natin, unahin natin yung mas

**[04:04:43.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006261)  
matatanda, paatras. Kasi

**[04:04:45.180] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006262)  
for obvious reasons na hindi

**[04:04:47.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006263)  
natin sure kung baka

**[04:04:49.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006264)  
anytime, hindi na sila

**[04:04:51.460] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006265)  
tumagal. So, that's why pinaatras natin.

**[04:04:53.840] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006266)  
Meaning, 100, pababa muna.

**[04:04:55.680] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006267)  
That's why you will probably see

**[04:04:57.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006268)  
like that sa mga LGU na bakit

**[04:04:59.620] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006269)  
mas marami sa 60, tapos

**[04:05:01.580] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006270)  
yung mga 70 wala, pero mas marami nakakatanggap

**[04:05:03.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006271)  
dun sa matatanda. Binaliktad

**[04:05:05.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006272)  
ho namin yun. Now,

**[04:05:07.380] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006273)  
lastly, I know

**[04:05:09.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006274)  
the intention of a database

**[04:05:11.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006275)  
for the seniors is good. But

**[04:05:13.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006276)  
alam po nyo, from my experience

**[04:05:15.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006277)  
as mayor and now

**[04:05:17.600] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006278)  
as secretary, multiple databases

**[04:05:19.660] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006279)  
can be detrimental to our health.

**[04:05:22.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006280)  
Ganyan ho nangyayari kasi may

**[04:05:23.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006281)  
database si ganito, may database si ganyan,

**[04:05:25.560] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006282)  
may database si ganito. I think the

**[04:05:27.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006283)  
intent of the CBMS is to centralize the

**[04:05:29.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006284)  
database so that all of us can just look at that.

**[04:05:32.120] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006285)  
Siguro ang payo ko na lang, and maybe the

**[04:05:33.740] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006286)  
Senate committee can look into

**[04:05:35.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006287)  
it, the stronger implementation of the

**[04:05:37.780] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006288)  
CBMS. Nandiyan na ho yung pera. We're spending so

**[04:05:39.700] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006289)  
much money on it already. The CBMS

**[04:05:41.860] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006290)  
can be a very powerful tool if

**[04:05:43.540] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006291)  
executed right.

**[04:05:46.820] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006292)  
Clarification lang po.

**[04:05:48.480] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006293)  
Alright, Ms. Yannis.

**[04:05:50.360] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006294)  
Secretary Rex, ang sinabi ko po

**[04:05:51.960] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006295)  
yung experience po sa Northern Summer,

**[04:05:53.860] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006296)  
yung 80 years old ang di pa nakakatanggap

**[04:05:56.120] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006297)  
na matagal na po, pero mas nakatanggap

**[04:05:57.760] COSE Executive Director Emily N. Beridico** (asr-006298)  
yung mga younger.

**[04:05:59.420] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006299)  
So, ang theory ko ho dyan,

**[04:06:02.400] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006300)  
again, dahil limited yung

**[04:06:04.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006301)  
funds natin, syempre yung incumbent,

**[04:06:06.360] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006302)  
hindi naman namin pwede alisin yun.

**[04:06:08.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006303)  
So, kung nababawasan na po kami,

**[04:06:10.000] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006304)  
pabaliktad namin ginagawa. Kukuha kami

**[04:06:12.020] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006305)  
from the altered database. It could be

**[04:06:14.060] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006306)  
those people are not in the CBMS

**[04:06:15.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006307)  
because the exclusion is quite big, and I mentioned that

**[04:06:18.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006308)  
to Secretary Balisakan already,

**[04:06:19.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006309)  
as end user, na feeling ko the exclusion nga

**[04:06:21.900] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006310)  
is greater than 30%.

**[04:06:23.300] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006311)  
But, what did we do with Secretary Balisakan?

**[04:06:26.260] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006312)  
We now have an on-demand,

**[04:06:27.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006313)  
parang sa four piece, meaning

**[04:06:28.980] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006314)  
our people, the MSWDO

**[04:06:31.820] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006315)  
and the PSA, can introduce

**[04:06:34.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006316)  
people into the database

**[04:06:35.640] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006317)  
if we validate na totoo itong mga taong to.

**[04:06:38.960] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006318)  
So, nababawa,

**[04:06:40.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006319)  
sabi ng MSWDO,

**[04:06:41.920] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006320)  
si Rex Gatchalian ay

**[04:06:43.480] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006321)  
buhay, nandito sa harapan namin,

**[04:06:46.100] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006322)  
nagbibigay kami ng pension sa kanya,

**[04:06:47.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006323)  
kailangan talaga ng tulong.

**[04:06:49.800] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006324)  
Then, DSWD,

**[04:06:52.040] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006325)  
MSWD, PSA,

**[04:06:54.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006326)  
can certify that this person should be

**[04:06:56.320] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006327)  
put into the database.

**[04:06:57.760] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006328)  
So, it's a workaround

**[04:07:00.140] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006329)  
na kasi close-ended si CBMS,

**[04:07:02.200] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006330)  
but we created ways to tap

**[04:07:04.240] DSWD Secretary Rex Gatchalian** (asr-006331)  
into it, even para sa four piece.

**[04:07:07.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006332)  
Salamat,

**[04:07:08.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006333)  
Secrex.

**[04:07:09.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006334)  
Moving forward in terms of yung

**[04:07:11.680] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006335)  
pag-consolidate na ng mga databases

**[04:07:13.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006336)  
and part of the resolution

**[04:07:16.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006337)  
nung ano nga ba yung relationship

**[04:07:18.020] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006338)  
between DSWD at saka

**[04:07:19.800] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006339)  
NCSC,

**[04:07:22.960] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006340)  
maybe a

**[04:07:24.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006341)  
starting point for that is the

**[04:07:25.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006342)  
CBMS. I'm just thinking aloud,

**[04:07:27.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006343)  
you know, CBMS, pero may paraan

**[04:07:30.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006344)  
na i-disaggregate yung data

**[04:07:32.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006345)  
ng senior citizens, and then

**[04:07:34.000] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006346)  
merong ganyang platform

**[04:07:36.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006347)  
para i-onboard

**[04:07:37.980] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006348)  
yung mga ma-validate na additional.

**[04:07:40.180] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006349)  
So, I'm not the techie

**[04:07:41.640] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006350)  
person in the room, so just thinking aloud

**[04:07:44.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006351)  
since it has come up so much.

**[04:07:46.940] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006352)  
So,

**[04:07:48.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006353)  
Ms. Liza, naalala nyo pa ba yung huling

**[04:07:50.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006354)  
input nyo?

**[04:07:50.800] Dr. Liza Martinez** (asr-006354-split-2)  
Hindi po.

**[04:07:51.300] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006354-split-3)  
Sige, anyway,

**[04:07:52.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006355)  
we will be keeping in touch with each other

**[04:07:54.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006356)  
papunta po sa budget plenary

**[04:07:56.040] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006357)  
natin. So, at least for

**[04:07:57.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006358)  
today, no, Secretary Gachalian,

**[04:08:00.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006359)  
other colleagues from the DSWD

**[04:08:02.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006360)  
and its attached and supervised

**[04:08:04.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006361)  
agencies, NAPC,

**[04:08:06.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006362)  
PCUP,

**[04:08:08.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006363)  
NCSC,

**[04:08:10.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006364)  
our partners from civil society

**[04:08:12.120] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006365)  
and people's organizations. Marami

**[04:08:14.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006366)  
pong salamat sa lahat,

**[04:08:16.060] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006367)  
sa bawat isa. Encouraging

**[04:08:18.400] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006368)  
po ang direksyon ng DSWD

**[04:08:20.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006369)  
toward adaptive social

**[04:08:22.320] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006370)  
protection, progressive

**[04:08:24.100] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006371)  
universal social pension,

**[04:08:26.380] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006372)  
a silver economy framework,

**[04:08:27.760] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006373)  
and greater economic

**[04:08:29.840] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006374)  
resilience for four-piece families.

**[04:08:32.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006375)  
We also recognize

**[04:08:33.740] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006376)  
NAPC's work in advancing the

**[04:08:35.860] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006377)  
socioeconomic rights of the poor

**[04:08:37.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006378)  
through local poverty reduction

**[04:08:39.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006379)  
action planning.

**[04:08:41.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006380)  
And PCUP's continuing work

**[04:08:43.700] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006381)  
with urban poor communities

**[04:08:45.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006382)  
towards stronger protection amid

**[04:08:47.720] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006383)  
projected urbanization.

**[04:08:49.780] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006384)  
Kanina, sinasabi namin ni SP, sana

**[04:08:51.600] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006385)  
hindi dadami yung

**[04:08:53.200] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006386)  
urban poor,

**[04:08:55.620] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006387)  
kundi dadami yung urban middle

**[04:08:57.560] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006388)  
class.

**[04:08:58.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006389)  
Kaya, yun po. We recognize, however, that these goals must be pursued within real budget constraints and considerations. Kaya malinaw po ang

**[04:09:10.160] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006390)  
hamon.

**[04:09:11.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006391)  
Social protection must be timely

**[04:09:13.140] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006392)  
in responding to crisis,

**[04:09:15.420] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006393)  
reaching the right people in the right way,

**[04:09:18.220] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006394)  
and adequate enough to make

**[04:09:19.580] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006395)  
a real difference, especially

**[04:09:21.500] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006396)  
as families face the super El Niño,

**[04:09:24.240] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006397)  
rising costs, and other

**[04:09:25.660] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006398)  
economic shocks.

**[04:09:26.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006399)  
Subject to the clarifications

**[04:09:28.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006400)  
of colleagues later,

**[04:09:30.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006401)  
and commitments made today,

**[04:09:32.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006402)  
I formally endorse

**[04:09:34.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006403)  
to the plenary the Fiscal Year

**[04:09:36.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006404)  
2027 budgets of the

**[04:09:38.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006405)  
DSWD and its attached

**[04:09:40.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006406)  
and supervised agencies,

**[04:09:42.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006407)  
including NAPC and PCUP,

**[04:09:44.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006408)  
for the consideration of the

**[04:09:46.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006409)  
Senate plenary. Maraming salamat po.

**[04:10:10.880] Senator Risa Hontiveros** (asr-006413)  
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